Actually, according to VHSL reference, LB has the best defense statistically in the northern region. Cville is tied with Westfield for 2nd. I know Westfield was missing a starter or two - which would factor into the stats, but so has pretty much everyone else.

Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against a decent schedule. Least amount of points in entire area...

5a Wrote:
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> Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against a
> decent schedule. Least amount of points in entire
> area...

Most points allowed in any single game in 2016:

Broad Run: 21 (Centreville, Briar Woods)
Stone Bridge: 23 (Potomac Falls)
Madison: 34 (Hayfield)
Centreville: 35 (Westfield)
Potomac Falls: 35 (Stone Bridge)
Westfield: 35 (Briar Woods)
South Lakes: 38 (Hayfield)
West Potomac: 40 (West Springfield)
Briar Woods: 41 (Stone Bridge)
Lake Braddock: 44 (South County)
Tuscarora: 44 (Stone Bridge)
South County: 46 (Hayfield)
Hayfield: 50 (South County)

Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is looking at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the chopping block again!

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> 5a Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against
> a
> > decent schedule. Least amount of points in
> entire
> > area...
>
> Most points allowed in any single game in 2016:
>
> Broad Run: 21 (Centreville, Briar Woods)
> Stone Bridge: 23 (Potomac Falls)
> Madison: 34 (Hayfield)
> Centreville: 35 (Westfield)
> Potomac Falls: 35 (Stone Bridge)
> Westfield: 35 (Briar Woods)
> South Lakes: 38 (Hayfield)
> West Potomac: 40 (West Springfield)
> Briar Woods: 41 (Stone Bridge)
> Lake Braddock: 44 (South County)
> Tuscarora: 44 (Stone Bridge)
> South County: 46 (Hayfield)
> Hayfield: 50 (South County)

How do you have south county scoring 44 on Braddock but failed to list how they gave up 52? Great job by broad run giving up 21 to Centreville, Lake Braddock allowed 8 points against them...Bruin defense has 12 shutouts over the last 3 years.

STFU as has been explained multiple times, in extensive detail, Football is the only sport in FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a profit at most schools, which is used to support the rest of the money losing sports.

and now for some bad news Wrote:
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> Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is looking
> at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> chopping block again!

I don't have a horse in this race, but we are not talking about a single game here, bro. Lake Braddock's schedule was full of absolute garbage. Do you think Braddock holds Stone Bridge to 7 points? No, neither does anyone else with a pulse. Seriously, Braddock had a very easy path. And we are not going back and counting shutouts over the past three years - we are talking about defenses THIS year in NOVA. With that being said, Braddock and Broad Run both have outstanding defenses, as does Stone Bridge and Centreville.

911 called and ambulance arrives to South County High School this week to save a football player brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room. Student was found in a pool of blood, skull cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds like your typical Pannoni culture.

5a<6a Wrote:
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>
> How do you have south county scoring 44 on
> Braddock but failed to list how they gave up 52?

Because I am a little dyslexic and flipped the score by mistake. You are right of course.

Ambulance@SouthCounty Wrote:
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> 911 called and ambulance arrives to South County
> High School this week to save a football player
> brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room.
> Student was found in a pool of blood, skull
> cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds
> like your typical Pannoni culture.

But did he order a Code Red?
Attachments:

5a<6a Wrote:
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> Bruin defense has 12 shutouts over the last 3 years.

That is a lot of shutouts. Checking back - that is over 4 seasons. Only 1 of them was against a team with a winning record. Four against Woodson. Ouch.

OK. I am bored today. I decided to compare Calpreps rankings with VHSL Reference rankings. Sorted the rankings for all 6A.

Below is how VHSL Reference ranked the 16 6A North playoff teams:
1 Lake Braddock
2 Westfield
4 Centreville
7 West Potomac
8 South County
9 South Lakes
11 Madison
17 Hayfield
21 TC Williams
24 Mount Vernon
25 Oakton
26 Robinson
27 Woodson
28 Patriot
30 Battlefield
34 Washington-Lee

How Calpreps ranked them:
1 Lake Braddock
3 Westfield
5 South County +3
6 West Potomac
7 Madison +3
8 South Lakes
9 Centreville -5
12 Hayfield +5
19 Robinson +7
24 TC Williams -3
25 Woodson
26 Oakton
29 Patriot
30 Mount Vernon -6
32 Battlefield
33 Washington-Lee

Lmfao which SoCo kid beat the other kid?

Probably a nigger beating a white kid.

Halftime.
Madison 19 W-L 0
West Potomac 14 TC Williams 0

Hayfield 18 Patriot 19 Early 3rd. If Hayfield had a damn kicker that can make a PAT they'd be up 21-19.

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>
> and now for some bad news Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is
> looking
> > at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> > chopping block again!

It is true, however, one point that you have missed is that in addition to being selfish, self centered and lacking judgment the School Board's liberal majority is vindictive. For that reason and other Title IX reasons (equal participation with large football squads) do not rule it out! Fairfax County royally screwed up last year by not throwing their collective asses out on the street when they had the opportunity!

Final Madison 26 W-L 2

OK...so the wind in my eyes was so cold I mistook an 8 for a 2...

Madison 26 Washington-Lee 8 (Corrected)
Lake Braddock 35, Robinson 14 Final
South Lakes 54, Oakton 14 Final
South County 34, Battlefield 12
Hayfield 30, Patriot 26
Centreville 57, Mount Vernon 0
West Potomac 26, T.C. Williams 0
Westfield 45, W.T. Woodson 7

Next Games:

Hayfield @ Lake Braddock
Centreville @ South Lakes
South County @ Westfield
West Potomac @ James Madison

Let's go West Po! Where can I find the location of the West Potomac game??

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>
> and now for some bad news Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is
> looking
> > at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> > chopping block again!


(sigh)

It is called the Washington Monument Syndrome. When forced to make cuts, governments will cut popular things. FCPS won't cut the leadership conference, as no one really knows what that it. Oh, but football, everyone knows what that is!

When people say "why did you cut football" FCPS will say "well we were millions and millions in the hole, something had to go, sure wish that meals tax had passed" and there you go.

It is the same reason the libraries have been cut-doing so stirs people up. Now that FCPS' budgetary ass is in the sling, watch for crazy shit to happen!

WP Alum Wrote:
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> Let's go West Po! Where can I find the location of
> the West Potomac game??


It's at Madison.

Pretty impressive win by West Po considering their QB (Ellis) left the game after their 2nd offensive series. Post article mentions a head injury, they will need him against Madison.

What is the schedule for this Friday?

Friday Night Wrote:
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> What is the schedule for this Friday?

You're kidding right?
Since the top 8 won the schedule is:

8 @ 1
7 @ 2
6 @ 3
5 @ 4

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>


Do you have a link on that data?

.? Wrote:
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> So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> > extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> > FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes
> a
> > profit at most schools, which is used to
> support
> > the rest of the money losing sports.
> >
>
>
> Do you have a link on that data?

Football will be the target because it will provoke the biggest reaction. No one would care if they stopped teaching "media in society" but oh dear God will they scream when football goes away and the stadiums are dark on Friday nights. Maybe just maybe the residents will decide that if they have to decide between FCPS administration and football, they'll pick FCPS administration!

FCPS said ELIMINATING sports and activities would save $11 and $12 million respectively for a total of $23 million.

FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016. Eliminating sports and activities would save LESS THAN 1% of the total budget.

What would even be the point? Obviously, sports and activities are not the problem.

Ambulance@SouthCounty Wrote:
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> 911 called and ambulance arrives to South County
> High School this week to save a football player
> brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room.
> Student was found in a pool of blood, skull
> cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds
> like your typical Pannoni culture.


Let me guess, because he supported Trump? I heard South County was one of the schools kids were getting jumped at because they supported Trump. Smh. Disgraceful.

fcpsspendinganalyst Wrote:
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> FCPS said ELIMINATING sports and activities
> would save $11 and $12 million respectively for a
> total of $23 million.
>
> FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016.
> Eliminating sports and activities would save LESS
> THAN 1% of the total budget.
>
> What would even be the point? Obviously, sports
> and activities are not the problem.

They won't eliminate travel, conferences, workshops, luch meetings, so guess what, no more sports. Live with it. They will be very apologetic and blame all of the assholes who voted against the meals tax.

Drop this:

Ffx public schools cost to educate 1 - pupil $14,432 per year

"Dreamers" estimated in FCPS 8,000

$14432 x 8000= $115,456,000

Unless those kids are Star Football players I found your Budget Defecit.

South County vs Westfield
Who Wins?

What are the best QBs left rankings?
statistally, and realistically?

usc Wrote:
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> South County vs Westfield
> Who Wins?

SOCO will have the new guy at QB the whole game, saw him a couple of times this season, he's pretty impressive. Westfield on the other, will be a lot healthier than they were week 2. It will be a much closer game than the last one (the score is misleading). I know I might be a bit biased but this Westfield team as well as Coach Simmons are too good to lose this early in the post season. They've just been on fire recently, the competition hasn't exactly been tough these past 4 weeks but they've been up by atleast 35 points in all their games before putting in the back ups. In a sense, they've looked like the team that we thought they would be. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if SOCO won but both these teams seem to be going in different directions, and on top of that there's no arguing which team is better coached, more disciplined, and more experienced.

It seems there really is no coincidence that the school was built in the shadow of DC's Notorious Prison...Bologne the ill fated Warden and the on-field and locker room mentality is almost identical to the Prison Yard...no loyalty among thieves...the better TEAM wins.

Inside info...ex Westfield defensive coach is supplying sick with O and D schemes to crush the,Dixie cup team ....his schemes and soco talent (if they stay disciplined)Will make for a easy win

I used to be a cheerleading coach, but figured I might as well jump in and make my selections. I have been picking at over 85% this year, so you can count on these selections. In fact, if I don't go 6-2 against Steve's points, I will go the the Springfield Mall on Saturday at noon and take a walk in the parking lot topless!


16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0) Braddock covers

15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0) Madison covers



14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0) Westfield covers

13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0) South Lakes covers

12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0) Centreville covers

11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0) South County covers

10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0) West Potomac covers

9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0) Hayfield covers


6-2 when you count the pointspreads - 8-0 picking the winners!

Not bad for a girl. Guess you will have to wait until next week to see these beautiful breasts!

Soco Fan Wrote:
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> It seems there really is no coincidence that the
> school was built in the shadow of DC's Notorious
> Prison...Bologne the ill fated Warden and the
> on-field and locker room mentality is almost
> identical to the Prison Yard...no loyalty among
> thieves...the better TEAM wins.


I used to go to South County. The prison mentality is definitely there but it doesn't go past mentality. Most of the kids who were there were and more than likely still are complete pussies. Even the Hayfield kids who were there were faggots. They were kids who probably got beat up at Hayfield a lot so they switched to South County in hopes of saving their pussy asses. It was pathetic and it's probably even more pathetic now. South County is a joke if I ever knew one.

Ruth Did Well! Wrote:
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> I used to be a cheerleading coach, but figured I
> might as well jump in and make my selections. I
> have been picking at over 85% this year, so you
> can count on these selections. In fact, if I don't
> go 6-2 against Steve's points, I will go the the
> Springfield Mall on Saturday at noon and take a
> walk in the parking lot topless!
>
>
> 16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0) Braddock
> covers
>
> 15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0) Madison
> covers
>
>
>
> 14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0) Westfield
> covers
>
> 13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0) South Lakes
> covers
>
> 12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0)
> Centreville covers
>
> 11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0) South
> County covers
>
> 10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0) West
> Potomac covers
>
> 9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0) Hayfield covers
>
>
> 6-2 when you count the pointspreads - 8-0 picking
> the winners!
>
> Not bad for a girl. Guess you will have to wait
> until next week to see these beautiful breasts!


Fuck the scores, just show us your tits.

Inside info:

First the Dixie Cuppers are retired...they have their Banners, Rings, Trophy and are off to more Liberal institutions of "Higher" Learning where their actions are not only tolerated, unaccountability is expected, their only short coming, they actually earned their Trophy.

Second, there are no Ex Westfield Coaches, Le Familia, once in, your always in.

Third, Soco is scheming alright, it just isn't with X's and O's

Fourth, Team-Work defeats individual talent every time...

Fifth, Panini Samich Won't Sleep at all this Week

Finally looking forward to West Po vs. South Lakes in Final...

Wake up Westfield!!your gay little wanna be club once a bullfag a
Always bullfag is a joke..im not calling out any x coaches but bullfags will need to switch up entire O and D...matter fact breaking down bullfag s O today....motion right run weak side..hit qb once hard and guaranteed he will check out...cry in red cups after team drinks there booze out

You gotta have someone to hit hard first...your little pocket Hercules LB hit QB hard several times last year he never checked out he just put up 40 and you don't have any one on defense this year like little Napolean. break down all you want..you still have to execute and what the Lorton Crew continuously demonstrates is they can't handle the pressure..Bullfags ran the same play 17 times against you genius's and you and your astute staff FAILED to adjust those poor kids...

Unless the Electoral College puts Hillary in, FCPS' finances are a pile of shit right now.

Expect them to CANCEL FOOTBALL in retaliation for the support the meals tax did not get.

When you complain and try to justify football, they will say there is no money and ask how you voted on the meals tax.

Outside info Wrote:
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> Inside info:
>
> First the Dixie Cuppers are retired...they have
> their Banners, Rings, Trophy and are off to more
> Liberal institutions of "Higher" Learning where
> their actions are not only tolerated,
> unaccountability is expected, their only short
> coming, they actually earned their Trophy.
>
> Second, there are no Ex Westfield Coaches, Le
> Familia, once in, your always in.
>
> Third, Soco is scheming alright, it just isn't
> with X's and O's
>
> Fourth, Team-Work defeats individual talent every
> time...
>
> Fifth, Panini Samich Won't Sleep at all this Week
>
> Finally looking forward to West Po vs. South Lakes
> in Final...


What's Pannoni up to now?

WF Fan Wrote:
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> usc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South County vs Westfield
> > Who Wins?
>
> SOCO will have the new guy at QB the whole game,
> saw him a couple of times this season, he's pretty
> impressive. Westfield on the other, will be a lot
> healthier than they were week 2. It will be a much
> closer game than the last one (the score is
> misleading). I know I might be a bit biased but
> this Westfield team as well as Coach Simmons are
> too good to lose this early in the post season.
> They've just been on fire recently, the
> competition hasn't exactly been tough these past 4
> weeks but they've been up by atleast 35 points in
> all their games before putting in the back ups. In
> a sense, they've looked like the team that we
> thought they would be. I definitely wouldn't be
> surprised if SOCO won but both these teams seem to
> be going in different directions, and on top of
> that there's no arguing which team is better
> coached, more disciplined, and more experienced.

You pretty much summed it up - Westfield is playing as well as they have all season and they are as healthy as they have been all season. But I'll be honest - the SoCo QB is is on another level compared to any QB they have played against this year. It should be a good one. When I look at the final 8 teams it would not shock me if any of them made it to the regional finals.

Landan Thomas for Madison is damn good for a number 3 running back

North Region Wrote:
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> Landan Thomas for Madison is damn good for a
> number 3 running back


Colin Kaepernick was also a third string quarterback and he was shit.

Pannoni is telling his players not open their mouths about the player getting jumped and beaten in the locker room last week because they will get him fired. Spoken like a true leader right there.

And people Wondered why Salisbury left. Honor is earned, thru your deeds and Actions, He understood that.

Criminal charges certain to follow

So did the player get jumped or just get his ass handed to him by another kid?

It was 2 fat-Ass lineman wrestling around in the locker room at South County. Both guys fighting were backups, scout teamers. Pannoni is going nowhere. Salisbury left because he sucked and the other guys was better. He couldn't handle it. Honor does't equal quitting on your team and friends. Who was hurt for Westfield in game one? McDaniel only playing 2 quarters and putting up 14 scares the shit out of them.

Who was hurt for Westfield in game one? McDaniel only playing 2 quarters and putting up 14 scares the shit out of them.

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Two massive starting O-lineman and the better of the two starting RB's. They have a huge line and after watching SOCO's D-line get pushed around by LB it's the Stallions who might be concerned. Also, the QB for WF was what, 1-14 in the first go round. He's been pretty hot down the stretch since they condensed the playbook. Oh yeah, don't think Delaney will miss 3 FG's either this time around. WF won't be afraid, they'll be well prepared and well coached as they've always been under Simmons and crew.....

I was wondering what happened to Salisbury. I looked at the roster the other night and was shocked to not find his name.

Mullet head will definitely choke under pressure and miss 3 again..x Westfield coach mapped out a,easy win for soco...we all know,hit bullfags quarterback and he Will run his mouth and collasp..best of luck to both teams

Will beat Madison. WP has a strong defense and their QB Mark Ellis will start. He got his bell rung against TC Williams, but he is a O tay, and ready to play.

My son Barron's probably gonna play football and wreck every faggy fuck on every opposing team just like I did when I ran for president.

So what your saying is, Bologna isn't smart enough to break down his own film so he is entrusting his fate to a guy who's team finished a laughable 2-8. That's what your going with?

Is Steve K2 going to put some lines on this week?

Steve is going to throw the line this week so he can go to Springfield Mall next Monday and See the Ta-Ta's

When the Boys are away kimmy will play
Your lines are as follow:

Hayfield @ Braddock (-6)
Centreville @ South Lakes (-11)
South County (-1) @ Westfield
West Potomac (-5) @ Madison

If any Region Team can keep up with LB it's Hayfields Aerial Attack, a little better Defense and Hayfield Takes it.

Facing one of the most Athletic Teams in the Region Centreville will need an error free game to keep it Close.

We will see how much "inside" information aides Soco against a Rising Westfield

Madison is almost out of Gas..26 against W&L won't work this week.

We are at the point where there are No Suprises..Its Any ones for the Taking!

My predictions

Lake Braddock 42
Hayfield 27

Hayfield hangs in early but I just think Lake Braddock wears them out late. Hayfield's defense hasn't been that great all season.


Centreville 35
South Lakes 22

SL has had one of the easiest paths in recent memory. Very good team but not ready for the big leagues. They were handled by hayfield and the only credible wins were against Briar Woods and Madison in which both teams were missing several key players.


Westfield 35
South County 12

The Westfield train is rolling at the right time and I expect them to take care of business.

West Potomac 21
Madison 14

This is my upset pick of the week. I think West Po is a very live dog to win the entire region.

Centreville in a blowout. South Lakes really does not have as many athletes as people think if you watch them play. (-11) is a ridiculous spread.

Meals tax did not pass, FCPS needs to pay for an interim auditor and is about to do a nationwide search for a new superintendent. Cash is tight, football cuts are coming!

give it up naked picture anti-football anti-FCPS anti-tax troll. I spoke to my school board member about this just last week and it has not been discussed - even informally.

buu66 Wrote:
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> give it up naked picture anti-football anti-FCPS
> anti-tax troll. I spoke to my school board member
> about this just last week and it has not been
> discussed - even informally.


School board members have been known to lie. They will time the announcement to minimize blowback.

But the cuts ARE coming.

Do they accept EBT cards? Serious question.

get ready to eat it Wrote:
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> Meals tax did not pass, FCPS needs to pay for an
> interim auditor and is about to do a nationwide
> search for a new superintendent. Cash is tight,
> football cuts are coming!


Cuts to football will be raised as a possibility because it creates press which is one thing that the School Board craves, particularly when they can use it to publicize their so called plight. The problem is that it will go no further than that because they ALL know that to make dramatic cuts to athletics would not only mean the end of their current position but the end of their political career. Also, football is for the most part is self supporting and is the foundation for most of the school's fund raising campaigns that support all athletics.

should cut sports out of schools

nothing to do with education and a waste of money

let some private companies set up sport leagues

no one on this thread will understand, but it makes complete sense

a solid education before anything else is why the rest of the world has crushed us

those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit

.? Wrote:
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> So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> > extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> > FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes
> a
> > profit at most schools, which is used to
> support
> > the rest of the money losing sports.
> >
>
>
> Do you have a link on that data?


no because it is false

they think selling popcorn covers the costs

take the 15 million cuts and add all personnel surrounding sports, facilities, insurances....sell the facilities to a private sports league and you are looking are 100 million+ cut in expenses + additional income from the private sector wanting to build these sports leagues and offering a % of their profits to the schools

parents will still shell out the $$ so little bobby and Susie can play their sports

Cost to Educate Student FCPS $14,500

Dreamers in FCPS 12,500

Cost $ 181,250,000.00

Football and all other Sports Stay Sorry!

Enjoy your meals, Enjoy your Friday Nights the real conversation is being had.

Hayfield @ Lake Braddock (-7.0)

Centreville @ South Lakes (-6.0)

South County @ Westfield (-3.0)

West Potomac @ Madison (-1.0)

These are great games, I can honestly see each one going either way. Makes for an exciting 3 weeks of playoffs coming up. There will be an upset tonight, I feel pretty confident saying.

UFwxL Wrote:
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> should cut sports out of schools
>
> nothing to do with education and a waste of money
>
> let some private companies set up sport leagues
>
> no one on this thread will understand, but it
> makes complete sense
>
> a solid education before anything else is why the
> rest of the world has crushed us
>
> those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit

No - I do understand your argument and you have a point. But you are in a tiny minority who think this way. You fail to understand that most people realize that there are additional costs - but they want they want sports and activities in high school. There are many social benefits to having athletics associated with schools. It is the American way and has been that way for well over 100 years. In general, we are not "getting crushed" by the world. That is a stupid statement. And the schools that are failing us are not that way because of athletics and no amount of money would fix the problem anyway.

And as an aside, I was talking to some foreign exchange students about this very issue in the last month - they love the American school club/sports/activity scene. It is much more egalitarian than in other countries where only wealthy people get to be involved in sports and activities, and it makes high school a much more enjoyable and varied experience. To a person they all said they wish their countries did it the way the USA does it.

Bottom line is only an anti-American Communist would try to eliminate sports from high school.

vjmwT Wrote:
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> UFwxL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > should cut sports out of schools
> >
> > nothing to do with education and a waste of
> money
> >
> > let some private companies set up sport leagues
> >
> > no one on this thread will understand, but it
> > makes complete sense
> >
> > a solid education before anything else is why
> the
> > rest of the world has crushed us
> >
> > those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit
>
> No - I do understand your argument and you have a
> point. But you are in a tiny minority who think
> this way. You fail to understand that most people
> realize that there are additional costs - but they
> want they want sports and activities in high
> school. There are many social benefits to having
> athletics associated with schools. It is the
> American way and has been that way for well over
> 100 years. In general, we are not "getting
> crushed" by the world. That is a stupid
> statement. And the schools that are failing us
> are not that way because of athletics and no
> amount of money would fix the problem anyway.
>
> And as an aside, I was talking to some foreign
> exchange students about this very issue in the
> last month - they love the American school
> club/sports/activity scene. It is much more
> egalitarian than in other countries where only
> wealthy people get to be involved in sports and
> activities, and it makes high school a much more
> enjoyable and varied experience. To a person they
> all said they wish their countries did it the way
> the USA does it.
>
> Bottom line is only an anti-American Communist
> would try to eliminate sports from high school.

Football is elitist. What % of students actually play it? These massive facilities (specifically, turf fields) exist for the benefit of these privileged, entitled few.

If you want to save football, and other high school activities, get out your checkbook, you're going to start to have paying for them.

The failure of the meals tax marks the beginning of a new era at FCPS!

I am an elitist, already open my Check book and fund raise to the Toon of Thousands of $$$$$ that's why WE Win you little Whiny Bitch, now Strap on your Safety pin and suck your thumb while our Kids do their Elitist S**T!

UFwxL Wrote:
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> should cut sports out of schools
>
> nothing to do with education and a waste of money
>
> let some private companies set up sport leagues
>
> no one on this thread will understand, but it
> makes complete sense
>
> a solid education before anything else is why the
> rest of the world has crushed us
>
> those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit


Ummm... No.

sports are no more dragging down our shitty academic performance as is band or theater. It's crap like common core, social engineering, non-English speaking 3rd worlders flooding our systems, teaching to the lowest common denominator, schools becoming babysitters, one parent households and the basic breakdown of our overall society that is causing our schools to suck. Public schools reflect their communities and most of our communities suck compared to 30 years ago. Sorry, it's just science.

How many kids actually get to play football? Something tells me the % is actually pretty small, that kind of bolsters the argument about its lack of inclusiveness.

More grist for the mill.

In the US 55-63% of students participate in school sports depending on their grade level. Of all the things that schools do after school sports and activities are by far the most cost effective. More than half of the kids are involved and they are much less expensive than any elective class or non-mandated course. If you really want to save money cut the HS from 7 classes to 6. Cutting sports won't solve any long term budget issues.

> Ummm... No wrote:
>
> sports are no more dragging down our shitty
> academic performance as is band or theater. It's
> crap like common core, social engineering,
> non-English speaking 3rd worlders flooding our
> systems, teaching to the lowest common
> denominator, schools becoming babysitters, one
> parent households and the basic breakdown of our
> overall society that is causing our schools to
> suck. Public schools reflect their communities
> and most of our communities suck compared to 30
> years ago. Sorry, it's just science.

Bingo! Very well said.

Seriously, have you ever even looked at the research about the positive correlation sports and student activities have on academic achievement and school culture. In one of the articles listed below you will see that 55% of High School students participate in sports! Whether you like sports or not they are an extremely important part of High School.

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/10-reasons-why-high-school-sports-benefit-students

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/21/taking-sports-out-of-school-2/high-school-athletes-gain-lifetime-benefits

http://www.rcga.org/_uploads/documents/L2P/EN/pg_016-017_Why%20is%20sport%20important%20for%20children_.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/physicalactivity/toolkit/factsheet_pa_guidelines_schools.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/how-sports-can-help-high-schools/2011/09/17/gIQANs6EaK_blog.html

What % of students play sports? What provisions, if any, are made for disabled students?

NYT and WaPO will print anything the liberals tell them to, so they are hardly reliable sources.

Maybe you will like this two sources a little better. It states the same numbers and the Washington Post and New York Times.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/high-school-notes/2011/09/02/high-school-sports-participation-increases-for-22nd-straight-year


http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

And here is an article addressing your question about students with disabilities.

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/developing-school-sports-programs-for-students-with-disabilities/

try again, Biff Wrote:
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> Football is elitist. What % of students actually
> play it? These massive facilities (specifically,
> turf fields) exist for the benefit of these
> privileged, entitled few.

Just stop talking about things you know nothing about. The sports facilities at most schools are being used practically 24-7 by a huge variety of local sports associations and clubs many of whom where involved in helping to pay for them (i.e. the turf fields).

To answer your question there about 14,000 high school football teams in the USA with approximately 1 million kids. Rough numbers. What difference does that make any way? You really don't know anything about the players either if you think it is an elitist sport. They come from all communities and neighborhoods rich and poor.

Hayfield gets wacked by Lake Braddock 42-0.

Westfield: 20
South County: 3

Start of 4th quarter

South Lakes 22
Centreville 20

Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with about a minute left to preserve the win.

Mister Seahawk Wrote:
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> South Lakes 22
> Centreville 20
>
> Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with about
> a minute left to preserve the win.

Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was handed the game. A horrible safety was called on Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those two points, and Centreville would of probably one with an extra point.

Westfield Wrote:
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> Westfield: 20
> South County: 3
>
> Start of 4th quarter


Looks like the games almost over and the score remains the same. I couldn't go but wow, SOCO held to 3 points? This Westfield D is legit.

Westfield Fan Wrote:
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> Mister Seahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes 22
> > Centreville 20
> >
> > Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with
> about
> > a minute left to preserve the win.
>
> Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was
> handed the game. A horrible safety was called on
> Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those
> two points, and Centreville would of probably one
> with an extra point.


It didn't look so horrible live, the QB was obviously throwing it away to avoid a sack in the end zone. No he wasn't outside the tackle box and no there wasn't anyone for either team close to where he threw it.

Final:
Madison 21
West Potomac 14

looked different live Wrote:
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> Westfield Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mister Seahawk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > South Lakes 22
> > > Centreville 20
> > >
> > > Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with
> > about
> > > a minute left to preserve the win.
> >
> > Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was
> > handed the game. A horrible safety was called
> on
> > Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those
> > two points, and Centreville would of probably
> one
> > with an extra point.
>
>
> It didn't look so horrible live, the QB was
> obviously throwing it away to avoid a sack in the
> end zone. No he wasn't outside the tackle box and
> no there wasn't anyone for either team close to
> where he threw it.

https://twitter.com/rebelrunsports/status/799794555109474304

I guess the refs were all up in the stands watching the game with me.

So number 21 was there. He slipped. Watch the video again.

Not taking anything away from SL but man there was a lot of penalties on Cville and they couldn't stop the slant pass. No adjustments made. Some questionable offensive play calling for Cville. .

Went to the Hayfield - Lake Braddock game tonight. I was walking
the sidelines watching the game when, at the urging of the School photographer, The Hayfield student section broke into a chant of "F... Donald Trump" -- something you might witness at a game in Maryland. No school officials on hand to discourage the embarrassing behavior. Hayfield parents must be very proud of their little brats. Class.

Even worse was the delay of game call on the two point conversation - how does the ref make that overly officious call in that situation?

Football Observer Wrote:
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> Westfield Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield: 20
> > South County: 3
> >
> > Start of 4th quarter
>
>
> Looks like the games almost over and the score
> remains the same. I couldn't go but wow, SOCO held
> to 3 points? This Westfield D is legit.

SoCo offense was unable to break through even once. Simay the only player on their team. McDaniels, Spalding, Dunn AWOL. SoCo student section vulgar, SoCo coaches incompetent, SoCo fans rude, SoCo players dirty and undisciplined. Same old story.

They had 12 men on the field, no delay of game.

nufan Wrote:
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> So number 21 was there. He slipped. Watch the
> video again.

21 was no where near the pass. It was thrown near ineligible 66, but no eligible players within 20 yards.

There may be a case for the QB not being in the end zone though.

And "was there too" was right, Centreville lined up for 2 with 12 players on the field. There were no delay penalties called in the game.

Refs were horrendous in the SL cville game. Bad calls on both sides. Notable bad calls: Cville throws a bubble behind the line of scrimmage. Clearly two yards behind the receiver. South lakes picked it up and would have scored easily but the refs blew it dead. Took a TD away from SL. Also, it was intentional grounding but he was not in the end zone so it should not have been a safety. At least it was bad for both teams. Many more bad spots and missed calls all through the game. Very frustrating as a neutral fan. That crew was horrible.