I was at the Madison Westfield game and I have been a Madison fan since my kids went there 20 years ago. My take away is this... Westfield is a very good high school football team and earned the victory on Saturday. My initial impression of Westfield is that they were a small college team because of the size of some of their kids. Madison looked very small in comparison on the sidelines.

However, once the game started I realized Madison is also a very good high school football team and gave they gave Westfield all they could handle for much of the game. The first half was some very good football with Madison dominating the time of possession but Westfield leading on the scoreboard 14-13. Westfield was not able to mount much offense with the exception of a scoring drive of about 40 yards after their defense held and a short punt. Madison had two long drives sandwiched in between several three and outs as well. Previous poster mentioned special teams and Westfield returned a kick off for a touchdown right after Madison's first score by #2 (who I thought was one of the most impressive looking athletes I have seen all season) and blocked a Madison extra point after their second score (#94). In the second half both defenses controlled the game early. The game absolutely turned mid way through the third quarter when Westfield returned an interception for a touchdown (#24). It came right after Madison stopped Westfield on a fourth down fake punt and had the ball second and four just inside Westfield territory. From that point on Westfield's D took over. I was very impressed by #93, #97, and #32. They were very difficult to block the entire day and became particularly tough to deal with in obvious passing situations. Westfield added an 80 yard TD to #2 again to ice the game early in the fourth quarter.

I do think the injury to Conforti was a bigger deal for Madison than others might. Conforti is a fantastic receiver and is very difficult for one player to cover. Westfield has a very good secondary but Madison had some success passing the ball in the first half. With Conforti out the coverage was able to tighten down on Finney and make it difficult for Madison to pass. To Westfeld's credit as well they were able to get to the quarterback with 3 and 4 man rushes so they could cover with 7 or 8 most of the second half. I am not saying that Conforti being healthy would have changed the outcome I am just saying the impact the loss of Conforti had on Madison was major.

The real difference I saw between the two teams is the depth. Westfield dressed about 1000 kids and many of them were large boys. Every team has injuries but a program like Westfield can absorb those injuries where a program like Madison might not be able to. Madison does not have the size (both numbers and physical size) of Westfield but they do have some very talented players. I thought Sam Kidd (#25), showed he is as good as any defensive player in the region. I thought Landan Thomas #9 ran hard against a very good defensive. I thought the whole Madison defense played physical and held their own the entire game and they were on the field a lot in the second half.

Bottom line is this. I am proud of this years Warhawks and the way they played all season. I don't know why one team has to be bad for the other to be good. Why can't we just say this was a good high school football game won by the team that played better that day? I wish Westfield luck moving forward though I will be pulling for the scappy South Lakes team (since they play in the same crappy district Madison plays in). I think you will find South Lakes to be a lot like Madison. They won't scare you getting off the bus but they have some real good football players. Stay healthy both teams and best of luck.

Karma is a Beach Wrote:
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> It was the LGBT community that cost Madison the
> game, ask their players and Mohawked coach how
> many times they called Westfield Players Faggot
> yesterday...
> Beware of Unicorns and Glitter...


Mr. Johnson, Your boy has probably heard worse on the football field. He'll get over it. Maybe you can bring it up at the next VYI meeting. Get this language cleaned up at the grass roots level.

Kaiser Sose Wrote:
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> I was at the Madison Westfield game and I have
> been a Madison fan since my kids went there 20
> years ago. My take away is this... Westfield is a
> very good high school football team and earned the
> victory on Saturday. My initial impression of
> Westfield is that they were a small college team
> because of the size of some of their kids.
> Madison looked very small in comparison on the
> sidelines.
>
> However, once the game started I realized Madison
> is also a very good high school football team and
> gave they gave Westfield all they could handle for
> much of the game. The first half was some very
> good football with Madison dominating the time of
> possession but Westfield leading on the scoreboard
> 14-13. Westfield was not able to mount much
> offense with the exception of a scoring drive of
> about 40 yards after their defense held and a
> short punt. Madison had two long drives
> sandwiched in between several three and outs as
> well. Previous poster mentioned special teams and
> Westfield returned a kick off for a touchdown
> right after Madison's first score by #2 (who I
> thought was one of the most impressive looking
> athletes I have seen all season) and blocked a
> Madison extra point after their second score
> (#94). In the second half both defenses
> controlled the game early. The game absolutely
> turned mid way through the third quarter when
> Westfield returned an interception for a touchdown
> (#24). It came right after Madison stopped
> Westfield on a fourth down fake punt and had the
> ball second and four just inside Westfield
> territory. From that point on Westfield's D took
> over. I was very impressed by #93, #97, and #32.
> They were very difficult to block the entire day
> and became particularly tough to deal with in
> obvious passing situations. Westfield added an 80
> yard TD to #2 again to ice the game early in the
> fourth quarter.
>
> I do think the injury to Conforti was a bigger
> deal for Madison than others might. Conforti is a
> fantastic receiver and is very difficult for one
> player to cover. Westfield has a very good
> secondary but Madison had some success passing the
> ball in the first half. With Conforti out the
> coverage was able to tighten down on Finney and
> make it difficult for Madison to pass. To
> Westfeld's credit as well they were able to get to
> the quarterback with 3 and 4 man rushes so they
> could cover with 7 or 8 most of the second half.
> I am not saying that Conforti being healthy would
> have changed the outcome I am just saying the
> impact the loss of Conforti had on Madison was
> major.
>
> The real difference I saw between the two teams is
> the depth. Westfield dressed about 1000 kids and
> many of them were large boys. Every team has
> injuries but a program like Westfield can absorb
> those injuries where a program like Madison might
> not be able to. Madison does not have the size
> (both numbers and physical size) of Westfield but
> they do have some very talented players. I
> thought Sam Kidd (#25), showed he is as good as
> any defensive player in the region. I thought
> Landan Thomas #9 ran hard against a very good
> defensive. I thought the whole Madison defense
> played physical and held their own the entire game
> and they were on the field a lot in the second
> half.
>
> Bottom line is this. I am proud of this years
> Warhawks and the way they played all season. I
> don't know why one team has to be bad for the
> other to be good. Why can't we just say this was
> a good high school football game won by the team
> that played better that day? I wish Westfield
> luck moving forward though I will be pulling for
> the scappy South Lakes team (since they play in
> the same crappy district Madison plays in). I
> think you will find South Lakes to be a lot like
> Madison. They won't scare you getting off the bus
> but they have some real good football players.
> Stay healthy both teams and best of luck.

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The most thoughtful, intelligent, and spot on post I think I've ever had the pleasure of reading on this site!

Madison v Westfield Wrote:
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> if you actually watched the Westfield Madison
> game, you would know the score did not accurately
> reflect the game. Madison defense dominated
> Westfield offense, only giving up pne big drive
> and one big touchdown and were put in bad
> situations all game. Madison offense was rolling
> in the first but slowed down after Conforti got
> hurt and the pick 6. Just like the whole season,
> special teams and injuries plagued Madison.
> Madison fell apart 2nd half and were playing w/o
> 3-4 starters. My guess is SL beats a very
> overrated Westfield team

If you have watched Westfield football the last two seasons this is how Westfield wins games. Defense + special teams and just enough from the offense. The playcalling on offense is always extremely conservative but this is the formula. Madison was a very good football team and played a very solid game. That is a tough team that had an outstanding season.

I don't think Westfield is overrated - I haven't seen many people picking them as the team to beat. They are definitely not as good as last years team but they may well be the best team in the North. So there you have it. Will find out next week.

I see next weeks South Lakes - Westfield game being a lot like last years one. This time however, because South Lakes is actually a good team, whereas last time, the game was close because Westfield didn't seem to give a damn.

Thank you for defeating the meals tax. FCPS will now cancel football to pay for crap like lesbian studies and trasgender bathrooms.

I should have voted for Trump.

Below is a list of VHSL 6A/AAA Div. 6 NORTHERN REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Marshall 21, Mount Vernon 0
1987 – T.C. Williams, 21 Annandale 0
1988 – Robinson 21, West Potomac 14
1989 – West Potomac 14, Lake Braddock 8
1990 – Annandale 27, T.C Williams 6
1991 – South Lakes 13, Robinson 12
1992 – Robinson 21, Annandale 0
1993 – Annandale 25, West Springfield 7
1994 – Annandale 33, Chantilly 0
1995 – Lake Braddock 15, Chantilly 14
1996 – Chantilly 28, Robinson 8
1997 – Robinson 21, Centreville 12
1998 – Centreville 21, Oakton 19
1999 – Centreville 21, Lake Braddock 17
2000 – Centreville 16, Robinson 13
2001 – Robinson 40, Centreville 17
2002 – Oakton 31, Robinson 29
2003 – Westfield 28, Robinson 7
2004 – Robinson 29, Oakton 22
2005 – Oakton 42, Westfield 24
2006 – Chantilly 26, Westfield 21
2007 – Westfield 58, West Springfield 34
2008 – Oakton 52, Chantilly 14
2009 – Lake Braddock 27, W.T. Woodson 20
2010 – Lake Braddock 56, Chantilly 18
2011 – Centreville 27, Westfield 24
2012 – Oakton 23, Westfield 16
2013 – Centreville 35, Westfield 14
2014 – Centreville 21, Westfield 17
2015 – Westfield 40, South County 8

Wins:
Centreville – 6
Robinson – 5
Oakton – 4
Annandale – 3
Lake Braddock – 3
Westfield – 3
Chantilly – 2
Marshall – 1
South Lakes – 1
T.C. Williams – 1
West Potomac – 1

Appearances:
Robinson – 10
Westfield – 9
Centreville – 8
Chantilly – 6
Oakton – 6
Annandale – 5
Lake Braddock – 5
T.C. Williams – 2
West Potomac – 2
West Springfield – 2
Marshall -1
Mount Vernon – 1
South County – 1
South Lakes - 1
W.T. Woodson – 1

Below is a list of VHSL 5A/AAA Div. 5 NORTHERN REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Edison 16, Stuart 12
1987 – Marshall 12, Fairfax 6
1988 – Yorktown 26, Marshall 20
1989 – Stuart 42, Edison 26
1990 – West Potomac 21, Hayfield 0
1991 – Langley 17, West Potomac 7
1992 – Hayfield 40, McLean 0
1993 – Langley 14, Hayfield 0
1994 – Fairfax 15, West Potomac 14
1995 – McLean 23, West Potomac 7
1996 – Madison 28, McLean 10
1997 – West Potomac 31, Mount Vernon 7
1998 – West Potomac 42, Park View 8
1999 – Yorktown 40, South Lakes 12
2000 – West Potomac 14, Langley 7
2001 – Mount Vernon 28, Madison 6
2002 – South Lakes 7, W.T. Woodson 2
2003 – Madison 20, Yorktown 0
2004 – W.T. Woodson 29, Edison 25
2005 – Stone Bridge 29 Edison 21
2006 – Edison 31, Stone Bridge 17
2007 – Stone Bridge 27, Edison 14
2008 – Stone Bridge 35, Edison 6
2009 – Stone Bridge 21, Lee 10
2010 – Stone Bridge 35, Hayfield 7
2011 – South County 37, Yorktown 13
2012 – Stone Bridge 69, Yorktown 50
2013 – Briar Woods 27, North Stafford 25
2014 – Tuscarora 41, Massaponax 21
2015 – Stone Bridge 54, Tuscarora 41

Wins:
Stone Bridge – 7
West Potomac – 4
Edison – 2
Langley – 2
Madison – 2
Yorktown – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Fairfax – 1
Hayfield – 1
Marshall – 1
McLean – 1
Mount Vernon – 1
South County – 1
South Lakes – 1
Stuart – 1
Tuscarora – 1
W.T. Woodson – 1

Appearances:
Stone Bridge – 8
Edison – 7
West Potomac – 7
Yorktown – 5
Hayfield – 4
Langley – 3
Madison – 3
McLean – 3
Fairfax – 2
Marshall – 2
Mount Vernon – 2
South Lakes – 2
Stuart – 2
Tuscarora – 2
W.T. Woodson – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Lee – 1
North Stafford – 1
Massaponax – 1
Park View – 1
South County – 1

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Below is a list of VHSL 6A/AAA Div. 6 NORTHERN
> REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with
> 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and
> 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State
> Champions.
>
> 1986 – Marshall 21, Mount Vernon 0
> 1987 – T.C. Williams, 21 Annandale 0
> 1988 – Robinson 21, West Potomac 14
> 1989 – West Potomac 14, Lake Braddock 8
> 1990 – Annandale 27, T.C Williams 6
> 1991 – South Lakes 13, Robinson 12
> 1992 – Robinson 21, Annandale 0
> 1993 – Annandale 25, West Springfield 7
> 1994 – Annandale 33, Chantilly 0
> 1995 – Lake Braddock 15, Chantilly 14
> 1996 – Chantilly 28, Robinson 8
> 1997 – Robinson 21, Centreville 12
> 1998 – Centreville 21, Oakton 19
> 1999 – Centreville 21, Lake Braddock 17
> 2000 – Centreville 16, Robinson 13
> 2001 – Robinson 40, Centreville 17
> 2002 – Oakton 31, Robinson 29
> 2003 – Westfield 28, Robinson 7
> 2004 – Robinson 29, Oakton 22
> 2005 – Oakton 42, Westfield 24
> 2006 – Chantilly 26, Westfield 21
> 2007 – Westfield 58, West Springfield 34
> 2008 – Oakton 52, Chantilly 14
> 2009 – Lake Braddock 27, W.T. Woodson 20
> 2010 – Lake Braddock 56, Chantilly 18
> 2011 – Centreville 27, Westfield 24
> 2012 – Oakton 23, Westfield 16
> 2013 – Centreville 35, Westfield 14
> 2014 – Centreville 21, Westfield 17
> 2015 – Westfield 40, South County 8
>
> Wins:
> Centreville – 6
> Robinson – 5
> Oakton – 4
> Annandale – 3
> Lake Braddock – 3
> Westfield – 3
> Chantilly – 2
> Marshall – 1
> South Lakes – 1
> T.C. Williams – 1
> West Potomac – 1
>
> Appearances:
> Robinson – 10
> Westfield – 9
> Centreville – 8
> Chantilly – 6
> Oakton – 6
> Annandale – 5
> Lake Braddock – 5
> T.C. Williams – 2
> West Potomac – 2
> West Springfield – 2
> Marshall -1
> Mount Vernon – 1
> South County – 1
> South Lakes - 1
> W.T. Woodson – 1

2006 Westfield team could've won it all to be honest, might be the greatest Westfield team to not win States. Would've steamrolled literally everybody last year and this year.

then maybe Wrote:
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> So maybe get some fans at your home games. Hell
> there were more Centreville fans in the visitors
> seats last week than there were SL fans in the
> home seats


I'm a neutral fan. I attended the South Lakes v. Centreville game. I sat on the home sideline. I can tell you there were plenty more in those stands than yours.

It seems like every year people should be asking, "who will Westfield be playing in the regional championship this year?" Will Westfield be as dominant in the future? Will they still be the team to beat five years from now?

South Lakes should have won is matchup last year, but turnovers killed them in the end. everyone agrees that South Lakes is improved, and WF is not the same team they were a year ago. SL's only loss came against a very talented Hayfield team, and that game was tied halfway through the 3rd. If you were at the LB game, you know that SL has the talent to match up with the so-called elite teams of the north. They are also well coached and not scared of anybody. I keep hearing about WF and its "stout" defense. Take a look at what SL did all season. If the scores aren't enough, ask Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

LakeBraddockPROUD Wrote:
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> Easy answer why South County went 8-4. They ran
> the score up on every small school they played and
> LOST every big game they played this season.

Says the school that just lost in a big game. Haha move on, Soco is already back in the weight room working. LB might want to do the same thing!!

This Westfield defense is nothing but stout. I'm a south county fan and they are lock down. Zach Jewell has had 10 sacks in the past 4 games. He will give kroll troubles. That's with Kevin petrillos consistent playmaking abilities. Those two and Joey free lead a very young defense that has let up less than 8 points per game in the playoffs. Westfield wins 24-7.

South Lakes will win Wrote:
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> If the scores aren't enough, ask
> Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

Atkins was pretty much held in check/shut down by Centreville, TCW and Robinson prior to South Lakes. Lake Braddock as always just runs up the scores/stats against bad football teams. Every game they played against a top 20 ranked team was a nail-biter win or a loss. Same as last year.

Westfield goes back to states Wrote:
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Technically, this is the state semi-final.

Yeah... I know that, that's why I said they go back to states because they win this game

The real question is when will 5A North ever win another state title? 3-30. That is embarrassing.

I keep hearing about WF and its "stout" defense. Take a look at what SL did all season. If the scores aren't enough, ask Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

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I'm not sure you can use teams like Marshall, Yorktown, McLean, Washington & Lee, Herndon, Langley, and Fairfax to back up this claim. Quite honestly those teams are awful.

So I compared the 6 common opponents both schools played, Briar Woods, Washington & Lee, Madison, Herndon, Oakton, and Centreville.

Westfield gave up a combined 57 points to those teams whereas South Lakes gave up 109. That's an average of 9.5 points a game for WF & 18.2 for SL their respective D's gave up against common opponents. WF had 2 shutouts, SL none against common opponents.



"They are also well coached and not scared of anybody."

Westfield has played in the region final now 6 years straight, two before they changed the format and now the past 4 North finals. I think they might be well coached too, so don't think SL has the market cornered on that. As a matter of fact that's precisely why they're playing in this game, yet once again....

My point was not a put down of WF, but that the SL defense is just as good. I'm aware of Jewell, Petrillo and Free (funny how a "SoCo" fan knows Jewell's sack numbers, isn't it?), and last year Petrillo's two picks were probably the difference maker in a tough loss. But after those three, who's left? SL is a complete defense, and while the names aren't out there publically, it doesn't mean the talent isn't on the same level. LB and pretty much everyone made the mistake of overlooking SL, so another week of that will be fine.

WE the Other 8 would rather remain Nameless, we just do our Jobs!

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> My point was not a put down of WF, but that the SL
> defense is just as good. I'm aware of Jewell,
> Petrillo and Free (funny how a "SoCo" fan knows
> Jewell's sack numbers, isn't it?), and last year
> Petrillo's two picks were probably the difference
> maker in a tough loss. But after those three,
> who's left? SL is a complete defense, and while
> the names aren't out there publically, it doesn't
> mean the talent isn't on the same level. LB and
> pretty much everyone made the mistake of
> overlooking SL, so another week of that will be
> fine.


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First, I really don't think Westfield is going to overlook South Lakes. Pretty sure they did that last year and that almost stung them. It's the 6A North championship game, nobody's overlooking the opponent.

Just as South Lakes is, Westfield too, is a complete defense. I could name the others but there's no need, think their accomplishment of giving up an average of 8 points per game this post season speaks for itself.

I will throw one name out there, Cockrill, big TE/FB that now is playing DE. With he and Jewell on either side that's a formidable duo. This is what Westfield does come playoffs, use their top players on either side of the ball. Petrillo and Jewell have been in there at times on the offense as well.

Bottom line is this is the 6th straight regional final for Westfield. The coaching staff is a large part of why they're here, regardless of what you think of them. As South Lakes shut down Atkins this past weekend WF put SOCO's Spalding under wraps the one before.

At this point both teams that make it this far are talented, usually the difference maker is coaching and how the players handle the stage....

Good response. I was not insulting the other 8 WF players, and I see how that could have been taken that way. Don't need the other 8 players names, and don't plan on listing the SL starter s.. WF fans and "SoCo" fans keep throwing out names, but a state championship put some of those names on the map. SL has players of equal caliber, many also going both ways, but they just don't have the reputation. A new culture with excellent coaching has SL playing its best football. Only a win will change perception. Maybe WF didn't overlook SL last year, and they actually had problems with the SL offense. You are right. Coaching and being able to handle the stage will matter. It should be a good game, but SL will win it this time.

South Lakes is going win this one easily as well. Has any football team in the history of the northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective pair of running backs as Westfield? I just watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

WE Can Agree that We Desire to see a great Football Game, Played By great Young Men Named and un-Named, All exemplifying great Sportsmanship with no Injuries. At this Stage of the Game they are all deserving, and its only fitting that it Runs through the defending Champions!

South Lakes is going win this one easily as well. Has any football team in the history of the northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective pair of running backs as Westfield? I just watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

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To answer your question, absolutely YES!!!

Look no further than Westfield last year, they had a RB that was 4th string when the season started. If it wasn't for injuries and suspensions he would have played mop-up only.

The kid ran for an average of over 200 yards in the 6A North & State Championship games. The kid was so slow that lineman could catch up to him, was very stiff running the ball, and couldn't pick a hole if his life depended on it.

Look, I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful but anyone who follows Westfield football knows what I'm talking about. Westfield hasn't had a premiere RB since Thrasher-Walker & Gray a few years ago.

Defense, special teams, and big strike capability is what this current Westfield team is about. No one ever called them an offensive juggernaut or said they had great RB's. Because that's just silly......

BTW, my previous post was to illustrate just how good the coaching staff at Westfield is. They made the RB last year look like a superstar in the post season. He doesn't even play college ball this year, that's how average he was but go back and look at the film...

restonlakes Wrote:
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> South Lakes is going win this one easily as well.
> Has any football team in the history of the
> northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective
> pair of running backs as Westfield? I just
> watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and
> they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes
> backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong? Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey Free? Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in the country. And last but not least, does whoever the South Lakes coach have nearly as many accomplishments as Kyle Simmons? Not saying South Lakes can't but just because your running backs put up better numbers in Liberty doesn't make them a whole lot better than the Westfield backs.

Football Fan Wrote:
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> restonlakes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes is going win this one easily as
> well.
> > Has any football team in the history of the
> > northern regin finals ever had such an
> ineffective
> > pair of running backs as Westfield? I just
> > watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and
> > they can’t even remotely touch the South
> Lakes
> > backs. How did they ever make it to the
> finals?
>
> Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong? Is there a
> single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free? Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in
> the country. And last but not least, does whoever
> the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> accomplishments as Kyle Simmons? Not saying South
> Lakes can't but just because your running backs
> put up better numbers in Liberty doesn't make them
> a whole lot better than the Westfield backs.

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I also know a great deal will be made of South Lakes spread offense, they like to score and score quickly. Westfield played SOCO twice this year, they have a similar offense to South Lakes. The Westfield D gave up 20 points in two games against SOCO.

Just as a point of reference, SOCO and South Lakes arguably played a similar schedule in regard to strength of opponents. SOCO's offense scored 422 points in 10 regular season games, South Lakes scored 390 points in their respective 10 regular season games.

My point, don't think South Lakes offense is going to be anything that Westfield hasn't prepared or played against. They'll be prepared as they typically are thanks to the great group of coaches they have.

As the poster above stated, not much has been made of WF's secret weapon, their kicker. There will be no kick off returns for South Lakes, and as far as punting, be prepared to see 50-60 yard punts. Westfield's key to success is field position and defense, in most cases the offense is an afterthought.

Football Fan Wrote:
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> restonlakes Wrote:
>
> Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong?

I give you #2 but the #4 is very average.

> Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free?

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

> Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in
> the country.

Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go there. Wow.

> And last but not least, does whoever
> the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> accomplishments as Kyle Simmons?

Taylor has coached in a regional final before. Simmons has 1 win in 5 tries. About to be 1 for 6.

Having gone to most of SL's home games the past two years and the WF playoff game last year I would expect WF to win next Saturday but it wouldn't shock me if SL pulled off the huge upset. It did surprise me to see SL beat LB so easily because Hayfield was easily the biggest and most athletic looking team I saw SL play this year and LB routed them.

SL has done a good job all year stopping opponents running game but they don't have very big DB's and big, physical receivers like Hayfeild's Cobbs are a tough matchup for them. I don't know if WF has anyone like that this year but if they do SL will have to pressure the QB to take some of the heat off the DB's.

A couple of things give me optimism this year. WF teams of the past wouldn't lose a game to teams like Briar Woods or get dominated by Stone Bridge the way they did earlier this season. Yeah, I know Simmons coaches em up and they peak around this time of year but in past years they could have an off game in Sept or Oct and still win because they had a lot more talent than their opponents. I haven't seen WF live yet this year but even some of the WF homers on this thread seem to feel they are a bit off this year from their usually high talent level.

SL returns mostly the same team from last year and Miles has another year of QB experience under his belt. SL doesn't have just one guy to key on either, Miles, Alston and Mensah can all produce and although they don't have Grunshie or Kirlew this year they have enough WR speed that you have to respect that (particularly when Alston lines up as a WR). The kicking game is much improved this year for SL. In last years playoff loss at WF after SL took a 4th quarter lead WF ran back the short kickoff (I'm talking barely over the 50 yard line short) for a TD and never looked back.

Should be a great game.

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

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Mmm, just my opinion but by and large lacrosse players tend to be a little tougher than some of the football players I've seen.

There are no bulky helmets, shoulder pads, hip and thigh pads in lacrosse.

But they tend to hit just as hard as they do in football with less/lighter equipment.

Just saying....

Frequent Watched of WF Football Wrote:
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> Westfield hasn't had a premiere
> RB since Thrasher-Walker & Gray a few years ago.

The good old days... remember Kendall Anderson (2011 season)?
http://www.tribeathletics.com/news/2016/11/21/kendell-anderson-honored-as-caa-football-offensive-player-of-the-week.aspx

restonlakes Wrote:
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> Football Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > restonlakes Wrote:
> >
> > Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> > touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong?
>
> I give you #2 but the #4 is very average.
>
> > Is there a single player on that defense of
> South Lakes that
> > can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> > Free?
>
> The answer is yes and you about to find out.
> South Lakes has football players on defense not
> lacrosse players.
>
> > Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> > know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers
> in
> > the country.
>
> Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go
> there. Wow.
>
> > And last but not least, does whoever
> > the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> > accomplishments as Kyle Simmons?
>
> Taylor has coached in a regional final before.
> Simmons has 1 win in 5 tries. About to be 1 for
> 6.

Atleast Simmons has a win. He also has 3 rings. Please tell me more about Taylor and how he managed 2 wins just a few years ago. Would you also like to tell me how "good" South Lakes was until they were given players that were otherwise suppose to go to Westfield or Oakton?

I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you the last word. Go back to your film and see how unsettled WFs defense was last year against us. The speed of the team (not individual players speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much different offensive sets and plays. That's an easy, but incorrect, comparison.

You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to ignore that.

> > Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> > know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers
> in
> > the country.
>
> Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go
> there. Wow

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Guess this guy has no clue that the kicking game is extremely important when it comes to the battle for field position.

Ever wonder why the broadcasters in the NFL continuously talk about the battle for field position week in and week out?

Makes a huge difference in high school when you don't get an opportunity to run a kick or punt back.....

Frequent watcher of SL football Wrote:
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> Having gone to most of SL's home games the past
> two years and the WF playoff game last year I
> would expect WF to win next Saturday but it
> wouldn't shock me if SL pulled off the huge upset.
> It did surprise me to see SL beat LB so easily
> because Hayfield was easily the biggest and most
> athletic looking team I saw SL play this year and
> LB routed them.
>
> SL has done a good job all year stopping opponents
> running game but they don't have very big DB's and
> big, physical receivers like Hayfeild's Cobbs are
> a tough matchup for them. I don't know if WF has
> anyone like that this year but if they do SL will
> have to pressure the QB to take some of the heat
> off the DB's.
>
> A couple of things give me optimism this year. WF
> teams of the past wouldn't lose a game to teams
> like Briar Woods or get dominated by Stone Bridge
> the way they did earlier this season. Yeah, I
> know Simmons coaches em up and they peak around
> this time of year but in past years they could
> have an off game in Sept or Oct and still win
> because they had a lot more talent than their
> opponents. I haven't seen WF live yet this year
> but even some of the WF homers on this thread seem
> to feel they are a bit off this year from their
> usually high talent level.
>
> SL returns mostly the same team from last year and
> Miles has another year of QB experience under his
> belt. SL doesn't have just one guy to key on
> either, Miles, Alston and Mensah can all produce
> and although they don't have Grunshie or Kirlew
> this year they have enough WR speed that you have
> to respect that (particularly when Alston lines up
> as a WR). The kicking game is much improved this
> year for SL. In last years playoff loss at WF
> after SL took a 4th quarter lead WF ran back the
> short kickoff (I'm talking barely over the 50 yard
> line short) for a TD and never looked back.
>
>
> Should be a great game.

I remember Grunshie from last years matchup, he was a very impressive player, all over the field. It seemed that the team relied on him a lot so it's impressive how they've played without him. It should be a great game. Westfields secondary struggled early one not because they couldn't cover but because they couldn't tackle. With the front seven healthy (not entirely, but this will do), the secondary will have a much easier time. They have the speed to keep up with the South Lakes receivers, Alston included. If South Lakes is gonna win though they'll need to punish the Westfield front 7, which is one of the best in the area. Another thing they'll need to do is matchup with #2 and #4, some NFL teams don't have WRs with that size (notice how I didn't say skill). Haven't seen much South Lakes but do they have any big corners?

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you
> the last word. Go back to your film and see how
> unsettled WFs defense was last year against us.
> The speed of the team (not individual players
> speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the
> comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much
> different offensive sets and plays. That's an
> easy, but incorrect, comparison.
>
> You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to
> ignore that.

With all respect to South Lakes, they scored 13 points last time, with one of the touchdowns coming on a blown coverage, the QB was intercepted atleast twice. I don't see how Westfields defense was unsettled. What I remember is that Westfields offense struggling because Scanlon was too conservative and they didn't take deep shots like they did this year. Score could've been much worse than it actually was, the game just got away from South Lakes following that kick return.

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you
> the last word. Go back to your film and see how
> unsettled WFs defense was last year against us.
> The speed of the team (not individual players
> speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the
> comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much
> different offensive sets and plays. That's an
> easy, but incorrect, comparison.
>
> You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to
> ignore that.


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I understand your point, mine was merely to make a point that. a spread offense isn't going to be anything Westfield hasn't prepared for. I'm not so sure it was South Lakes speed that gave Westfield such a hard time last year. It might have been that a good deal of those players had gone against the Seahawks the previous few years. This teams were not very good, I think Westfield underestimated them last year, don't think they will this year.

Look, I get it, South Lakes is a very good team, so is Westfield. At this point I think either team could win this Saturday. This Westfield team is not as strong as last years, but somehow they just keep getting the job done.

Good luck and hopefully it will be a good game!

"This teams were not very good,'

Those not this, sorry....

Good luck as well.

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> restonlakes Wrote:
>
> Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free?

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

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As in Petrillo, Concorde Defensive player of the Year
or
Jewell, 1st team all Conference and easily could have been player of the year
or
Free, 1st team all conference and has shut down the opposition's #1 receiver all season
or
Roberson, who, until his injury, was playing lights out
or
Lydic, who came back from a serious concussion to resume his very solid LB play
or
Cockrill, who also plays defense when he isn't running the ball, blocking or catching passes or being all-around the best player on the team?

Probably more, but that's off the top of my brain. Which of those lacrosse players don't you think play actual football on Westfield's defense?

PXTk6

Here's the thread....

as in... Wrote:
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> Probably more, but that's off the top of my brain.
> Which of those lacrosse players don't you think
> play actual football on Westfield's defense?

The ironic thing is that some of South Lakes best players also play lacrosse.

7G6jv Wrote:
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> as in... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Probably more, but that's off the top of my
> brain.
> > Which of those lacrosse players don't you
> think
> > play actual football on Westfield's defense?
>
> The ironic thing is that some of South Lakes best
> players also play lacrosse.

Not to mention Jewell, Roberson, Free and Lydic aren't playing lacrosse this year. They aren't lacrosse players playing football, they're football players who used to play lacrosse.

Actually, there best player is already committed to play lax at ohio state.

All of those players are just multisport athletes, probably identifying with whatever sport is in season. Free and Jewell are still playing lacrosse, Roberson is not playing lacrosse because of a torn ACL. Don't know if Lydic still plays or not. Doesn't matter, and Westfield Lax had the best response to restonlakes, since Alston is heading to OSU.

Westfield Lax Wrote:
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> Actually, there best player is already committed
> to play lax at ohio state.

Didn't know OSU had a lax team, are they any good.

I like South Lakes's chances on Saturday. Westfield has lost 4 of the last 5 regional championships. One of the big reasons they won last year was because of Tyler Scanlon, the transfer from PVI. Westfield may struggle with South Lakes's speed. Madison's receivers were getting open against the Bulldogs "sophomore secondary" until their top receiver went down with an injury. Westfield's secondary seems to play 5-7 yards off the receiver which allows for quick out plays. I also don't think much of Westfield's running game. It resembles nothing like previous years. Their sophomore running back has been fumbling lately and was even benched in the Madison game. Yes we all need to acknowledge the fact that the Westfield defensive coaches prepare their kids very well for every game and put them in the best positions to be sussessful, however if you put their star players on another high school team, I bet they don't look as good. Maybe Westfield will surprise me on Saturday but I think South Lakes has too many weapons and is too hungry to prove themselves. Obviously having gone 1 for 5 in the last 5 Regional Final games they are maybe happy with just playing in the game.

DMDVc

NovaFBFan Wrote:
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> I like South Lakes's chances on Saturday.
> Westfield has lost 4 of the last 5 regional
> championships. One of the big reasons they won
> last year was because of Tyler Scanlon, the
> transfer from PVI. Westfield may struggle with
> South Lakes's speed. Madison's receivers were
> getting open against the Bulldogs "sophomore
> secondary" until their top receiver went down with
> an injury. Westfield's secondary seems to play 5-7
> yards off the receiver which allows for quick out
> plays. I also don't think much of Westfield's
> running game. It resembles nothing like previous
> years. Their sophomore running back has been
> fumbling lately and was even benched in the
> Madison game. Yes we all need to acknowledge the
> fact that the Westfield defensive coaches prepare
> their kids very well for every game and put them
> in the best positions to be sussessful, however if
> you put their star players on another high school
> team, I bet they don't look as good. Maybe
> Westfield will surprise me on Saturday but I think
> South Lakes has too many weapons and is too hungry
> to prove themselves. Obviously having gone 1 for 5
> in the last 5 Regional Final games they are maybe
> happy with just playing in the game.

You cannot deny Westfield's 1 for 5 in the last several region finals. But keep it in context. 2011 vs Centreville was a fantastic game, one of the best I have ever seen, between two virtually equal opponents-both of whom were far better than any other teams that year and every team this year. 2012, WF played one of their worst games of the year and ran into a motivated and hot Oakton team. That is the only game of the 5 they really blew-it happens. 2013 and 2014, CV was just a juggernaut and put out arguably two of the top 6-7 teams in this area in the last 15 years; again, either CV or WF from both years was better than any team this year but WF was not the best team in the area those two years but was good enough to make it to the final. 2015 they get the win. This year, the top teams are just not as strong as in years past and any of the top 5-6 teams were capable of emerging from the region. Just so happens that SL and WF emerged. The balance is there but the overall quality is a bit down.

One thing you cannot deny is WF is the most consistently, highest performing team the region has ever had.

j7WyW Wrote:
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> You cannot deny Westfield's 1 for 5 in the last
> several region finals. But keep it in context.
> 2011 vs Centreville was a fantastic game, one of
> the best I have ever seen, between two virtually
> equal opponents-both of whom were far better than
> any other teams that year and every team this
> year. 2012, WF played one of their worst games of
> the year and ran into a motivated and hot Oakton
> team. That is the only game of the 5 they really
> blew-it happens. 2013 and 2014, CV was just a
> juggernaut and put out arguably two of the top 6-7
> teams in this area in the last 15 years; again,
> either CV or WF from both years was better than
> any team this year but WF was not the best team in
> the area those two years but was good enough to
> make it to the final. 2015 they get the win. This
> year, the top teams are just not as strong as in
> years past and any of the top 5-6 teams were
> capable of emerging from the region. Just so
> happens that SL and WF emerged. The balance is
> there but the overall quality is a bit down.
>
> One thing you cannot deny is WF is the most
> consistently, highest performing team the region
> has ever had.

Time to give some props to Coach Simmons. His playoff record at Westfield is better than Verbanic’s. Verbanic was 12-7 in 9 playoff appearances (out of 11 years coaching at Westfield). Simmons is currently 18-4 in 6 playoff appearances.

And realistically he’s doing it for the most part without a plethora next level players.

while an 18-4 Record is quite an accomplishment, amassing that Record with out "a plethora of next Level players" says a lot about those athletes on the Team(s) playing as a TEAM and not relying on a "SUPERSTAR" to Carry the Load.

its definitely a TEAM effort at Westfield, Instilled by the Coaching Staff, However lived and delivered by the Players. Westfield is fortunate to Have the Staff they Have and the Culture that has withstood the Years.

As for the "NEXT LEVEL PLAYER" that's a whole other discussion. Some Schools/Coaches go above and beyond to promote THEIR Athletes While others look down their Noses!

Regardless the Next Level will find those Athletes, until then Westfield Football might just go on winning with Next Level Wrestlers, Basketball Players, Lacrosse Players, Baseball Players, Track Athletes, while their ALL- STATE Football Players carry-on at Community College, Armed Forces, or otherwise...

Westfield doesn't have the college talent that it used to, but most of the Fairfax schools have seen the same talent drain. There are still lots of great HS football players in the area, but there just aren't as many kids who have the size, skill, and athletic ability to earn scholarships as there were 10 years ago.
Westfield, however, still has top 3-4 talent in the county. If you get a chance to watch them they have several big athletic kids that aren't common expect at Lake Braddock, South County, and Centreville. Westfield has great coaches, but the guys at Madison and South Lakes have gotten a lot out of kids who may not be as talented.

Westfield Reality Wrote:
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> Westfield doesn't have the college talent that it
> used to, but most of the Fairfax schools have seen
> the same talent drain. There are still lots of
> great HS football players in the area, but there
> just aren't as many kids who have the size, skill,
> and athletic ability to earn scholarships as there
> were 10 years ago.
> Westfield, however, still has top 3-4 talent in
> the county. If you get a chance to watch them
> they have several big athletic kids that aren't
> common expect at Lake Braddock, South County, and
> Centreville. Westfield has great coaches, but the
> guys at Madison and South Lakes have gotten a lot
> out of kids who may not be as talented.

Westfield is good cause of the black kids.

Anyone alive when back in 1991 when South Lakes last won the region?

BTW, a google search on the Rowe dude is a little creepy.
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Westfield fans are very quiet lately. Have there been injuries to key players or do they just know what's coming against South Lakes? Maybe they've already given up knowing what's waiting for them down in Hampton?

Crickets............. Chirping crickets.............

The silence is deafening!

Us Westfield fans rarely talk trash in the first place. The person who's been talking shit and claiming that Westfield is gods team is obviously a troll, if you actually think he's a fan then you have problems. Westfield has 2 linebackers that are out for the season, and there's was an O-Linemen that got hurt last game but I don't know his status. Westfield was supposed to lose last year too, in fact, they were the underdog in the last 3 games. They ended up out scoring their opponents 120-57. Their opponents were Lake Braddock, SOCO, and Oscar Smith. South Lakes has a good team so this might be a challenge for Westfield, but I just don't think South Lakes has the talent to match Westfield, and they sure as hell don't have the coaching to match Westfield. Good luck to the Seahawks and Bulldogs!

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Us Westfield fans rarely talk trash in the first
> place. The person who's been talking shit and
> claiming that Westfield is gods team is obviously
> a troll, if you actually think he's a fan then you
> have problems. Westfield has 2 linebackers that
> are out for the season, and there's was an
> O-Linemen that got hurt last game but I don't know
> his status. Westfield was supposed to lose last
> year too, in fact, they were the underdog in the
> last 3 games. They ended up out scoring their
> opponents 120-57. Their opponents were Lake
> Braddock, SOCO, and Oscar Smith. South Lakes has a
> good team so this might be a challenge for
> Westfield, but I just don't think South Lakes has
> the talent to match Westfield, and they sure as
> hell don't have the coaching to match Westfield.
> Good luck to the Seahawks and Bulldogs!

Who are the two linebackers that are out? I think "might be a challenge" is the type of thinking that gives teams playoff losses. Lake Braddock also thought South Lakes "might" be a challenge.

I dont know about trolls but I know Westfield is the best and always will be

Not sure Westfield was the Underdog throughout the playoffs last year. I saw the State game and Westfield had a monstrous O- line, great linebackers. and a disciplined team. Oscar Smith was a much smaller team but a lot faster and more aggressive both offensively and defensively. Westfield's size proved to be the advantage in Triple OverTime. The 2016 version is still very disciplined but their advantages from last year have graduated.

If Westfield Has key players out at their strength areas, discipline will keep them in the game but South Lakes should have the advantage. Too bad as I'd love to see a Smith vs Westfield rematch!

I heard some chatter that Zach Jewell (D end) re-sprained his ankle in practice this week after hurting it against centreville a few weeks back. He's played nearly every snap this year on defense when the starters were in. If he's out, who's there to replace him? And obviously cole Roberson is out with a torn knee. Two very important starters for the Westfield D.

So, a couple of linebackers, O-Line player AND a DE are all out? Maybe an injury list is needed? Can anyone provide a verifiable report on these players?

No wonder the enthusiasm has fallen off big time at the worst time for Westfield.

South Lakes is being very humble given their opportunity to whip a powerhouse and get to the State 6A finals!

Quiet Dogs Wrote:
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> Not sure Westfield was the Underdog throughout the
> playoffs last year. I saw the State game and
> Westfield had a monstrous O- line, great
> linebackers. and a disciplined team. Oscar Smith
> was a much smaller team but a lot faster and more
> aggressive both offensively and defensively.
> Westfield's size proved to be the advantage in
> Triple OverTime. The 2016 version is still very
> disciplined but their advantages from last year
> have graduated.
>
> If Westfield Has key players out at their strength
> areas, discipline will keep them in the game but
> South Lakes should have the advantage. Too bad as
> I'd love to see a Smith vs Westfield rematch!


Last year Westfield was the underdog going into SoCo, despite the shitkicking they gave them in that game. Not sure either Westfield or Smith was really a favorite, as both had strengths and weaknesses, and nobody could say which would win out.

The loss of that huge offensive line is obvious when you look at this year's crappy running game. That hurts the passing game, except long strikes to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year. Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not close to complete.

If Jewell is hurt, Westfield is screwed. Jewells pressure on the QB is the only thing saving the small DB's from getting destroyed. Also, he is one of a couple of kids who play both ways, so the offense will be hurt as well.

Everyone's banged up this time of year. No one is getting any sympathy from anyone. Roberson did not play in the Madison game so while it is a loss others stepped up. Westfield LBs were hurt all season so a lot of kids got playing time. Just miss the size and experience of #42.

South Lakes still has to go into Bulldog terrify & take the title away from Westfield. But, they have to be happy with their chances against a weakened opponent.

Quiet Dogs Wrote:
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> South Lakes still has to go into Bulldog terrify &
> take the title away from Westfield. But, they have
> to be happy with their chances against a weakened
> opponent.


No more weakened than anybody else. Roberson being out hurts, but he wasn't even a starter at the beginning of the season. The kid he replaced is more than capable and has played a lot this season. WFdadx2 is right. Everyone has played a lot, and as long as the main players are there, they will be fine. Jewell is a main player. I haven't heard he won't be playing, and I think that information is wrong. Westfield will be fine. If they find a way to run the ball, they will win by 3 touchdowns. If they don't, they will win by one touchdown.

WF Lifer Wrote:
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> That hurts the passing game, except long strikes
> to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year.
> Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to
> Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to
> Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not
> close to complete.

I agree with what you are saying but Frimpong is no slouch. He can make plays. One can only hope SL does ignore him for Eckert.

GMGFU Wrote:
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> WF Lifer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That hurts the passing game, except long
> strikes
> > to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year.
>
> > Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to
> > Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to
> > Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not
> > close to complete.
>
> I agree with what you are saying but Frimpong is
> no slouch. He can make plays. One can only hope
> SL does ignore him for Eckert.


Frimpong is as athletic as Eckert and not a slouch, but Eckert has much better hands especially in traffic. The number of drops Frimpong has over two years is high, although he does has some great catches as well. Sometimes he makes the hard catches and drops the easy ones. Agreed that if South Lakes doubles or focuses on Eckert and leaves Frimpong man-up, then he has all the tools necessary to get open and hopefully make the catch.

I have crowned South Lakes 6A North Regional Champs! With all the injuries for Westfield & a South Lakes defense ready for the Bulldogs, I don't see a possibility for any other outcome.

SO, onward to Hampton. Who wins between Oscar Smith vs South Lakes?

I think a 3rd try for Shon Mitchell get him his ring!

^^^^ VEGAS Would Never Handicap your Injury Report..Your Source(s) would get you Killed.

Wellllll, I am just an ass and I may have made a premature prediction about South Lakes winning the North Region. So, Westfield could still win. Of course they win.

SO, onward to Hampton. Who wins between Oscar Smith vs Westfield?

I think a 3rd try for Shon Mitchell gets him his ring! I don't think it matters who wins 6A North!

South lakes plays 8 guys both ways with around 30 non freshmen dressing. You don't think they are probably a little banged up too? That's what usually saves Westfield because they have numbers and depth. Weakened Westfield team? Please they will still win. If they lose don't blame it on being a weakened team that's ridiculous.

True. I saw a few freshman playing against lake Braddock on special teams. That's crazy.

Glad to see New blood, New faces and someone else becoming a power. South Lakes should be good for a while. Welcome to the club, but your fans are too quiet on FFU and are boring. We're used to brash claims and narcissistic behavior. Just too humble!

New Blood Wrote:
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> Glad to see New blood, New faces and someone else
> becoming a power. South Lakes should be good for a
> while. Welcome to the club, but your fans are too
> quiet on FFU and are boring. We're used to brash
> claims and narcissistic behavior. Just too humble!

I bin tryin! Truth = South Lakes nearly knocked off the state champs last season. They are better than last year and Westfield is not as good. I will step out and guarnatee a win. I am making my hotel reservations in Hampton today.

Why do people keep bringing up last years Westfield vs. South Lakes game?? Nobody said Westfield was good last year before they moved scanlon to receiver. In fact, they were rather average. So South Lakes took their best shot at a mediocre Westfield team with literally no offense at the time and still lost 24-13.

No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was only effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass interference calls would go against him. He simply used the same push off move which was never called during the basketball games to get open. The worst example was during the triple OT game against Smith. If the refs had the balls to have made that call, the outcome would have been flipped!

So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South Lakes Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know Smith would love to get at this weaker version of the Bulldogs!

Weaker Westfield Wrote:
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> No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year
> without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was only
> effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass
> interference calls would go against him. He simply
> used the same push off move which was never called
> during the basketball games to get open. The
> worst example was during the triple OT game
> against Smith. If the refs had the balls to have
> made that call, the outcome would have been
> flipped!
>
> So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South Lakes
> Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know Smith
> would love to get at this weaker version of the
> Bulldogs!

You don't get it. The Westfield team this year is defiantly less talented than the one last year, however, Johnson is a far better QB than Scanlon. So the version of Westfield this year should atleast be better on offense than last year. Additionally, this spread offense bullshit won't work on Westfield. SOCO arguably had the best offense in the area and were dominated by Westfield's D 2 years in a row.

Good thing Thanksgiving just passed, a lot of People on here should still have their Pie Plates out, Eat Up, Humble Pie will be served!

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Weaker Westfield Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year
> > without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was
> only
> > effective because he learned ZERO offensive
> pass
> > interference calls would go against him. He
> simply
> > used the same push off move which was never
> called
> > during the basketball games to get open. The
> > worst example was during the triple OT game
> > against Smith. If the refs had the balls to
> have
> > made that call, the outcome would have been
> > flipped!
> >
> > So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South
> Lakes
> > Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know
> Smith
> > would love to get at this weaker version of the
> > Bulldogs!
>
> You don't get it. The Westfield team this year is
> defiantly less talented than the one last year,
> however, Johnson is a far better QB than Scanlon.
> So the version of Westfield this year should
> atleast be better on offense than last year.
> Additionally, this spread offense bullshit won't
> work on Westfield. SOCO arguably had the best
> offense in the area and were dominated by
> Westfield's D 2 years in a row.

They are not "definitely less talented." Offensively, the line is less talented, especially in size and strength. Johnson is significantly better than Scanlon, especially as this season has progressed. Current RB's are no better or worse than last year. WR's are an improvement this year, even if you look at the State game when Scanlon moved to WR. TE's are better. Cockrill a year older and better, and when he moves to FB, Jewell is fine.

Defense is about the same. Jewell has come on to be a force, replacing Aeillo's great play last year. The rest of the line has played fine. Petrillo is a year older and better. Lydic is a fine replacement for Roberson. The secondary is young, but improving - this is the same every year, though. Free is excellent back there as well. There are a couple of weaknesses, but I am not going to single out anybody, and the coaches can scheme around them. If you were at the Madison game, that first long run was a result of a missed tackle. Other than that, there was one long drive for Madison and that was it. South County is an "offensive power" and was shut down. I don't understand people who do not think the Westfield D is legit.

South Lakes has a couple of go to plays. Westfield will be ready for them. If South Lakes can still move the ball, then they will deserve the win. I don't think that will happen.

Weaker Westfield Wrote:
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> For what it's worth he was only
> effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass
> interference calls would go against him. He simply
> used the same push off move

Tip: it isn't worth shit. This ranks as one of the stupidest things written on FFXU in some time. Have you even watched his Hudl highlights? If you look at 30 catches maybe a handful might have a pushoff. Maybe. Sour grapes.

All my touchdown catches were because I know how to push off without getting caught!

Oh and being a superior Human being at 6'-6" tall that helped too, and it wasn't so much a push off as a hand swipe, kind of like when I would Drive to the Hole in B-Ball, check out those high-lights also, got a ring there as well!

Can anybody give me an objective breakdown of South lakes steengths and weaknesses, offensively and defensively? Lots of people here with a lot to say about Westfield, and I keep seeing the same names thrown around. Besides general South Lakesnisnfast and runs a spread offense with some gimmicks, what are some individual matchups or position play that will matter and I should look for?

Skanlon Wrote:
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> Oh and being a superior Human being at 6'-6" tall
> that helped too, and it wasn't so much a push off
> as a hand swipe, kind of like when I would Drive
> to the Hole in B-Ball, check out those high-lights
> also, got a ring there as well!

Nothing wrong with a hand swipe you sick little troll.

I think it's fair to say that most of the comments are based upon what we have seen from Westfield. So you either need to watch film or actually go see SL play. Don't expect anyone to spoon feed you on FFU.

From what I gather South Lakes sounds like they may have a really good defense which is not being talked about. For them to shut down Lake Braddock's powerful run game, create turnovers via fumbles & interceptions, AND have a deceptive Spread Offensive attack, I would have to believe Westfield will have their hands full tomorrow.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/2869695/57e6c069688ec45db44300af

first catch is amazing.

Here's your objective it's week 14 anything is possible and then again Cinderella was a Fairy Tale

Here's an objective, South Lakes and Centreville exposed a vastly over rated Lake Braddock
South Lakes gave up 22 pts to what many Heralded as the next 6A state Champs.

Centreville Gave up 7 pts to what Many Heralded as the next 6A State Champs

I would venture to Say Tre Taylor and his Staff Studied Centreville as to their keys to Success. Good for them if they Did. Just Hope they Didn't also Study Centreville for their Success against Westfield. A 35 - 0 beat Down that could have been 60-0

SL last won the region in 2002.


frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> Anyone alive when back in 1991 when South Lakes
> last won the region?
>
> BTW, a google search on the Rowe dude is a little
> creepy.

The non-passage of the meals tax will mean serious budget cuts, and sports just can't be justified. Say GOODBYE to football!

Injuries Wrote:
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> South lakes plays 8 guys both ways with around 30
> non freshmen dressing.

I was watching a little film and I'm not seeing 8 guys playing both ways on an every down basis. Maybe 4 (79, 25, 11, 2). I think you are exaggerating a little. Is interesting their roster lists 11 seniors and 13 freshman. Virtually all but 2 of their impact players are underclassmen. They should be a great team for awhile.

You can't watch film then. Both middle linebackers start at guard. 24 is their starting d end and running back. And 75 gets some burn at guard and starts at D end. #4 looked like he played both ways but was carted off the field last week with serious leg injury so he is out. So, 79, 25, 11, 2, 56, 51, 75, 24. And #4 is out so who knows what that will do for depth. Following the team a little they have had some injuries they had to overcome a starting offensive guard and another nose guard are out for the year. Looks like they are just hanging on. Lot of two way guys. I don't know how you can miss 56 and 51 in your film study not playing both ways? They never come off. Btw they are extremely underrated as linebackers. Undersized but really good players.

I've been to all but 3 SL games this year and let me tell you that this is the most talented team I have seen since the early 90s. However, we are very thin in the area of depth. We only had 44 JV/Varsity players this year (Our freshman team only had 23 players). I'm not sure why we seen such a drastic drop in numbers especially since we have had a couple of good seasons.

I'm confident that we will beat Westfield. I think that we have to play a very smart and disciplined game but our confidence is at an all time high right now and the kids are ready to take it to the next level. I've seen Westfield on film and they didn't impress me.The region will be put on notice today! Balance of power has shifted.

The South Lakes trash talking and confidence is great to see! I hope it is a great game today.

The ironic thing about the players you guys are discussing is that #21,#25,#51,#56, #11, #79 all come from the neighborhood that was recently redistriced from Oakton to SL.

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Westfield vs South Lakes NR Final. Book it.


Posted Oct 1st. Good call FB Fan!