SC overrated again. Won't win more than one playoff game. Five turnovers.

Repeat after me Westfield faithful we are special people they do love us and we will be OK we are special people do love us and we will be OK

Cville took care of Oakton tonight of course will take care of Herndon next week so they'll be six and one going into Westfield in week 8....not too shabby

They had 6 turnovers and 12 penalties and still hung 56 on Woodson. The region blows and so do you. Soco will be there in the end. What do you want them to hang 100 on people? Enjoy bitch.

Westfield is mediocre... Too bad, I was hoping to see y'all come down to 757 for your your well deserved ass beating. It looks like Westfield is already getting it though! Still have a couple of tough games & y'all could have 3 losses by play-off time. I don't even know what to say about that!

I almost feel bad for Westfield.....NOT!!!!

(757) Wrote:
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> Westfield is mediocre... Too bad, I was hoping to
> see y'all come down to 757 for your your well
> deserved ass beating.

Where did that come from???

Anyway, you are correct. Mediocre is the word. This year's team is not even remotely in the ballpark of last season. Well coached and playing the right way. Just getting mauled by bigger and stronger players.

SOCO only has that one RB. Runs like he just stole something from 7/11. Probably did.

I forgot to remind people though that I know that 757 teams cheat and even so Oscar Smith last two times they have played in the state championship have lost to Westfield and Centreville but I still blow hard up here in NOVA because I have nothing better to do and I do have a very small penis so it is ok if the 757 teams cheat and conspire with VHSL because it in some way makes up for my small willie.

Washington and Lee beats Langley by 1

Chantilly tied at halftime, rolls over McLean in 2nd Half

Annandale defeats fading Mt. Vernon

Centerville by 9 over Oakton

South Lakes rolls over hapless Herndon

Stone Bridge special teams and passing lead Bulldogs over Robinson by 15

Braddock predictably smacks down TC Williams

SoCo smacks Woodson, gives up a lot of points in doing so.

Wakefield gets 1st win over Edison

Potomac over Springfield in a close Battle of the Wests

Briar Woods shocks scrubs from Westfield in double overtime

Broad Run handles Yorktown, as Arlington schools really struggle.

Tuscarora upends Potomac Falls, knocking off overrated Panthers.

Welcome back juvenile troll.... It's too bad about your Westfield team, but SOCO & Centreville are loving it.

BTW you just can't stand it that the poor kids from the South Norfolk region of Chesapeake keeps winning and plays for the South regional championship & the State Game virtually every year. Westfield is good when they win but then they quickly becomes mediocre again. Until y'all can show some consistancy, just shut up...

I think your obsession with my penis is pathological & no body really cares about your trivial comments!

Westfield will be sitting home in December & complaining how teams cheat.. Very predictable & the reason why no one respects Westfield!

SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at least they back up their regular season with deep, deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar success.. But you can hold onto your delusional nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!

Westfield looking for that #13-16 seed come playoffs coming in at 6-4 or 7-3

Zero Depth across the Board

Poor Running Team

Poor passing Team

Horrendous blocking team

Terrible Tackling Team

Undersized Defense

Shoutout to McLean for giving it their all.
I feel like they would have won the game if their QB didn't get injured.
The momentum was all on their side.
But hey, they showed a Concorde team that they were ready to fight.

(757) Wrote:
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> SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive
> district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of
> course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at
> least they back up their regular season with deep,
> deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the
> feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar
> success.. But you can hold onto your delusional
> nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!


gkeeton@verizon.net



REALLY bad idea to leave ways to find out who you are

hope you have not had that email too long, because you better lose it fast

Tonight only makes it clearer... MADISON is winning this region

Friday, October 14 -- Madison at undefeated South Lakes...2nd test of their defense (since Stone Bridge). Warhawks close the season away at Hayfield (as of right now undefeated too)

Offense is solid. Choutka, Conforti, Finney, Thomas, Kidd all look really good in the scheme, even back up Walker looks good in the backfield.

Proved the could hold the line on defense against Stone Bridge...can they do the same against South Lakes running backs? Will come down to line play.

Everything changed.... When Westfield started losing *Avatar music plays*. ... Right now it seems like the only CONSISTENTLY district is Liberty, but then again, Madison and SL are graced with an overall easy schedule, if not for themselves, one eh non-conference game and Hayfield.

Wow.... Only if Hayfield held back SOCO in a game that seemed to go against them in the end (losing 3 year starting Guard slowed down their roll on the run game) Hayfield would be in top 4 easy a long with Mad and SL. Right now the top 5 are literally within 1.3 points of each other.

LB honestly fked up the rankings with their LOSS. Good for Cville, but really LB.... Now Centreville I think is the most undeserving #3 seed so far.

Conference Zero Wrote:
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> Westfield looking for that #13-16 seed come
> playoffs coming in at 6-4 or 7-3
>
> Zero Depth across the Board
>
> Poor Running Team
>
> Poor passing Team
>
> Horrendous blocking team
>
> Terrible Tackling Team
>
> Undersized Defense

QB has not developed at all this season. I think has had 12 passes tipped at the LOS in the last 3 games. No touch. Going into the playoffs at 6-4 is the likely senario.

HAHAHA the fact that McLean almost beat Chantilly is kinda sad

In hindsight Madison's win over Stone Brige looks even more impressive now and SL's win over Briar Woods looks like more of a quality win then it did at the time. You'd have to give the edge to Madison over SL but the big question for them is if they have an answer for Alston and the speed in general of SL.

I haven't seen Langley but I'm not too surprised that WL beat them. WL isn't that good a team but I was impressed with a couple of their receivers and they have a good QB who can get them the ball. The QB's toughness was impressive because he didn't have much time to get the ball off and no running game whatsoever.

Annandale fan here. Saw the game last night against Mt. Vernon. It was like two completely different games. First half, Mt. Vernon looked like last year's team, and Annandale was up 28-0. 2nd half, Mt. Vernon looked like this year's team and scored three td's in the 3rd quarter. Fourth qtr., Mount Vernon was inside the 10 yard line at least twice but couldn't score.
Not sure what happened to MV first half, but they looked great in the 2nd half. But Annandale kicked their ass in the 1st half.
Kind of a strange game.

Both South Lakes and Madison will need to respect a Hayfield team that put up 46 points on South County...even if a in a losing effort.

Soco offense is good. Their defense not so good. Special teams gave up 3 td's vs. Hayfield. And that bum Salisbury fumbled the ball in the endzone, so the score wasn't that close with Hayfield and Soco. If Salisbury left a couple weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against Westfield.

Real Soco Wrote:
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> If Salisbury left a couple
> weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region
> and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against
> Westfield.

This is true. McDaniels seems to be the best QB in NOVA.

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Both South Lakes and Madison will need to respect
> a Hayfield team that put up 46 points on South
> County...even if a in a losing effort.


South Lakes, Madison, and McLean have only one common opponent among the three teams -- McLean. Using McLean as a measuring stick, South Lakes would seem to be the best.

Soco got beat by a mediocre Westfield Team...they are playing Scrub teams giving up 30-40 pts a game...they will not survey verb the Northern Region much less what comes out of 757....McDaniels however is a player...

Real Soco Wrote:
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> Soco offense is good. Their defense not so good.
> Special teams gave up 3 td's vs. Hayfield. And
> that bum Salisbury fumbled the ball in the
> endzone, so the score wasn't that close with
> Hayfield and Soco. If Salisbury left a couple
> weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region
> and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against
> Westfield.

Hayfield turnovered the ball 4 times in the 2nd quarter. Their 3 year starting guard got hurt (on a firzt glance, probably the best oline they have). We can play excuses and say that "Oh, that wasn't as close as it seems be" because of xyz when Hayfield had xyz against them, if not more mistakes that proved to be more dire. They both had a crap ton of penalties, turnovers, and it was back and forth. As said before, a great game that honestly could've changed with a turf pellet going the other direction.

McLean lost by so much because Madison softened them up for South Lakes the week before...you can say thank you now ;)

Fairfax @ Hayfield (-35.0)
*Hayfield won 54-9.

Nailed some, got a few wrong this week. This is the hardest season to pick margins I can ever recall. I love it! The playoffs are going to be awesome in a few weeks.

Jefferson @ Stuart (-35.0)
*Stuart won 42-6.

Chantilly (-17.0) @ McLean
*Chantilly won 49-14, in hindsight this picked margin was low. Chantilly's coaches must have lost it being tied at halftime.

Langley (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Washington Lee won 36-35.

Lee @ Falls Church (-10.0)
*Falls Church won 56-21.

Madison (-37.0) @ Marshall
*Madison won 41-0.

Mount Vernon (-21.0) @ Annandale
*Annandale won 28-21. Annandale is a tough team to figure out. They've put together a couple nice games and then have games where they don't show up ready to play. This loss definitely stings for Mount Vernon.

Oakton @ Centreville (-14.0)
*Centreville won 21-12. Oakton played much better than their 40 point loss to Westfield. This is honestly the hardest year it's ever been making picks, love it!

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Herndon
*South Lakes won 56-23.

Stone Bridge (-8.0) @ Robinson
*Stone Bridge won 36-21.

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
*Lake Braddock won 42-7.

Woodson @ South County (-21.0)
*South County won 56-32.

Wakefield (-1.0) @ Edison
*Wakefield won 32-14.

West Potomac (-17.0) @ West Springfield
*West Potomac won 47-40.

Westfield (-14.0) @ Briar Woods
*Briar Woods won 35-34.

Yorktown @ Broad Run (-21.0)
*Broad Run won 29-7.

Chantilly @ Oakton (-14.0)
*Maybe the Chargers can stay in this one, but Oakton has games where they've played well against good opponents. Chantilly has just beaten Lee, McLean and Herndon... For that, will go with the Cougars here in a kind of big spread for a conference match up.

Edison @ Tuscarora (-45.0)

Falls Church (-49.0) @ Jefferson
*Bigger margin than usual, I just don't see how TJ can keep this one close.

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Langley
*Langley usually keeps game close for a while, I think they'll do the same here.

Lake Braddock (-24.0) @ Woodson

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
*This is the game of the week and a first must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but I'm a big believer in quality competition and Madison has been more tested. That being said the Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule and have absolutely dominated.

Marshall @ Lee (-7.0)

Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
*Westfield doesn't lose 2 in a row often, I suspect they will bounce back with a win but this could be a fun game to watch.

South County (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon

Stuart @ Wakefield (-1.0)
*This is a tough one... Stuart has their winningest season in 5 years and Wakefield has just won 1, I'll take the home team.

Washington-Lee (-17.0) @ Fairfax

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Annandale
*Annandale always gets me, but so I am keeping the pick closer this week.

Yorktown (-15.0) @ McLean

(757) Wrote:
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> SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive
> district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of
> course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at
> least they back up their regular season with deep,
> deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the
> feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar
> success.. But you can hold onto your delusional
> nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!

Smith has won 87 district games in a row because their district is weak. Real weak. The district has 3 teams from each of 6A, 5A, and 4A. They only have 1, sometimes two, real games every year. The 6 5A/4A teams are also historically terrible and rarely make the playoffs. Yes, they are a good program. But when you have to only face 1-2 decent teams until at least the 3rd round of the playoffs it is just a bit easier to run up gaudy scores and huge winning streaks. That is not the case on NOVA or RVA. Accept reality.

Steve K Wrote:
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> Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
> *This is the game of the week and a first
> must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as
> these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn
> here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but
> I'm a big believer in quality competition and
> Madison has been more tested. That being said the
> Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule
> and have absolutely dominated.

This is the game I would like to watch. I think Madison takes care of business.


> Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
> *Westfield doesn't lose 2 in a row often, I
> suspect they will bounce back with a win but this
> could be a fun game to watch.

This is the game I will watch. Coach Simmons has not lost 2 in a row since taking over at Westfield. With Centreville following this one it could very easily be 3 in a row.

atoms Wrote:
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> Annandale fan here. Saw the game last night
> against Mt. Vernon. It was like two completely
> different games. First half, Mt. Vernon looked
> like last year's team, and Annandale was up 28-0.
> 2nd half, Mt. Vernon looked like this year's team
> and scored three td's in the 3rd quarter. Fourth
> qtr., Mount Vernon was inside the 10 yard line at
> least twice but couldn't score.
> Not sure what happened to MV first half, but they
> looked great in the 2nd half. But Annandale kicked
> their ass in the 1st half.
> Kind of a strange game.


This result is the most stunning of the week. Not surprised Mount Vernon's defense got exposed a bit, but for their offense to only put up 21 against a meh team is puzzling.

I know folks hate Westfield, but there's no shame in losing to BW. They are a big, tough team and could cause problems in the playoffs.

BW lost to basically every other relevant team, West Po, South Lakes, and SoCo. Now to say that Westfield will now lose to thee teams..... Maybe so. But it doesn't look like WF is in there typical trend of improvement.

What is happening to 6A North football this year?

Westfield losing to a Briar Woods team that did not look any better than the one that lost 36-0 to Westfield last year. Lake Braddock squeaking by West Potomac and losing to Centreville. Centreville losing to a mediocre Tuscarora team (that just knocked off undefeated Potomac Falls). South County scoring as much as ever but lost to a down Westfield squad and barely slipped past an average Briar Woods. Hayfield very impressive but a loss to South County. Oakton has a couple of decent wins - Tuscarora/Robinson) – but some bad losses. Robinson doesn’t have any big wins but probably outperformed Westfield in their loss to Stone Bridge. West Potomac has a win versus Briar Woods and should finish at least 8-2 or maybe 9-1. Battlefield may finish 8-2 but they do not really impress.

Madison and South Lakes appear to be the class of the field as they hold wins against Stone Bridge and Briar Woods respectively. But they were close games and they haven’t really played anyone else of note. Are they really that much better than the 1 or 2 loss teams? I don’t know. SoCo with the new QB is going to be a really tough out but I always go with whoever has the best defense. Right now I am leaning towards Madison. The next few weeks will be most interesting but unless someone makes a move I am thinking for once it may be true that the region is actually “down.”

It is easy to shout that the whole area is "down" this year, but perhaps it just happens to be that the talent is spread out. Has anyone seen Hembry from Broad Run, Maffe from Briar Woods, or Atkins from Braddock? I get to watch film of any game that I want, and I can tell you that these three, along with Breece and Block from Stone Bridge, are pretty damn good. What you don't have any more is the depth we used to have. Too many soft parents not letting their kids play football will invariably mess with the quality of play, especially after we get to the heart of the season and attrition sets in. What is definitely down in my opinion is quarterback play. Not sure why, but clearly this area has great coaching and has churned out great quarterbacks over the past few years. Calm down, these things are cyclical. I will also add, however, that even top JV teams are weak when compared to the ones from 5-10 years ago. Too many "gamers" that don't get off their couch, too many helicopter parents that went to see Will Smith in "Concussion". Just enjoy the stretch run and the playoffs, as this year it is truly anyone's year to pop up and win their region.

A couple of things... Wrote:
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> It is easy to shout that the whole area is "down"
> this year, but perhaps it just happens to be that
> the talent is spread out. Has anyone seen Hembry
> from Broad Run, Maffe from Briar Woods, or Atkins
> from Braddock? I get to watch film of any game
> that I want, and I can tell you that these three,
> along with Breece and Block from Stone Bridge, are
> pretty damn good. What you don't have any more is
> the depth we used to have. Too many soft parents
> not letting their kids play football will
> invariably mess with the quality of play,
> especially after we get to the heart of the season
> and attrition sets in. What is definitely down in
> my opinion is quarterback play. Not sure why, but
> clearly this area has great coaching and has
> churned out great quarterbacks over the past few
> years. Calm down, these things are cyclical. I
> will also add, however, that even top JV teams are
> weak when compared to the ones from 5-10 years
> ago. Too many "gamers" that don't get off their
> couch, too many helicopter parents that went to
> see Will Smith in "Concussion". Just enjoy the
> stretch run and the playoffs, as this year it is
> truly anyone's year to pop up and win their
> region.

I agree there are still a lot of top athletes in the area. Perhaps just not powerhouse teams. But we'll see.

Some areas are seeing reduced numbers of kids going out for football. My brother in Pittsburgh was just telling me there are a few former top football schools in the area that are not fielding freshman football teams anymore. Not enough kids. Just JV and Varsity. So it's not just here.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/high-school-football/2016/09/23/Endangered-species-Ninth-grade-football-in-Western-Pa/stories/201609230052

After a decade of barely paying attention to the Northern Region, I've gotten back into it this year. So I can't say if play is up or down compared to recent seasons. However, a few things have jumped out at me after 10 years away:

-- Teams are MUCH bigger physically than a decade ago. I know program weights are exaggerated, but I'm blown away by the size of some teams. Back in the day if you had a 300 pounder, more than likely he was a fatso. Not anymore.

-- Offenses are much more complex. A decade ago hardly anyone ran the spread or its variations. Now just about every team throws it all over the field, and QBs have much more responsibility.

-- There's much more parity, thank god. Back in the early 2000s you could pretty much bank on Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Centreville. It's great to see programs like Madison, South Lakes and Hayfield breaking into the top tier now.

C'mon, Steve, we know that you are not all that up on Loudoun County football, but they are pretty damn good and you couldn't even bother to put a line out there on their big match-ups this week?
Stone Bridge (5-1) at Broad Run (4-2)
Briar Woods (3-4) at Potomac Falls (5-1)

And before anyone tries to bash me by telling me this is "Fairfax Underground", these four Loudoun schools play against Fairfax schools all the time.

Can someone give me the rundown for the NR playoff picture? The 16 in and the 4 that are bubble?

Stone Bridge 35, Broad Run 28
Briar Woods 14, Potomac Falls 13

Top 8
Madison 30.33333
Lake Braddock 29.50000
South County 29.33333
Centreville 29.33333
South Lakes 29.00000
West Potomac 28.50000
Hayfield 27.16667
Westfield 26.66668

Bottom 8
Battlefield 26.57143
Mount Vernon 24.50000
Annandale 24.50000
Patriot 24.33333
Robinson 24.33333
Woodson 24.16667
Oakton 23.16667
TC Williams 23.16667

Next 4
Chantilly 22.50000
Langley 21.66667
Yorktown 21.16667
West Springfield 20.00000

How about 5A playoffs/rankings?

Falls Church Alum Wrote:
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> How about 5A playoffs/rankings?


Top 8
Brooke Point 31.66667
Stone Bridge 29.33333
Potomac Falls 28.66667
Massaponax 28.66667
Albemarle 26.83333
Patrick Henry (Roanoke) 26.57143
Patrick Henry (Ashland) 26.16667
North Stafford 26.00000

Bottom 8
Tuscarora 25.14286
Broad Run 25.00000
Briar Woods 23.71429
Falls Church 23.16667
Potomac 22.83333
Stafford 22.66667
Orange 22.16667
Stuart 21.33333

Next 4
Marshall 21.16667
Mountain View 20.83333
Atlee 20.66667
Edison 19.16667

All region watch list

Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart. Slots were based upon play on film, exposure , statistics, as well as raw potential to continue to play at a high level. I felt these players currently have deserved the spots they are in. I am sure the top teams will sneak some of their guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty of football to still be played.

Offense

*west Potomac is loaded but one guy hasn't quite made an absolute claim for an all region spot

QB Jack McDaniels South County
QB Jacob Keeney Hayfield
QB Timothy Heltzel Mount Vernon

RB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
RB Jalen Jackson Annandale
RB Spencer Alston South Lakes
RB Landon Thomas Madison

TE Andrew Park Lake Braddock
TE Jimmy Murphy Fairfax
TE Corey Thomas Chantilly

WR Dillon Spalding South County
WR Daniel Adu West Springfield
WR Brian Cobbs Hayfield
WR Quinn Parks Washington and Lee
WR Darien Newton Mount Vernon

OL Pierce Banbury Oakton
OL Nick Bernachhi Robinson
OL David Kroll South Lakes
OL Jacob Laub Lake Braddock
OL Marshal McCord McLean
OL Cameron Lucas South County
OL Jack Blevins Hayfield


Bubble

Mikel Gambel Mount Vernon
Zach Monson West Potomac
Adam Kucick Herndon
Jacob Chautka Madison
Ricardo Mestre Washington and Lee
Devin Miles South Lakes
Mark Ellis West Potomac
Jo Jo Heisley Woodson
Ivory Frimpong Westfield
Julian Garret Centreville
Brandon Lisenby West Potomac
Reid Scarborough Robinson
Nolan Cockrill Westfield
Jaden Snead Herndon
Nick Miller Washington and Lee
Daiimon Cleveland West Potomac
Jacquez Stewart Robinson
Ty Crabb Lake Braddock



Defense

This is harder to gage with less statistics available

DL Caleb Brooks Centreville
DL Brailyn Franklin Battlefield
DL Zach Jewell Westfield
DL Brad Porter Madison


LB Joshua King Battlefield
LB Da'jon Bellfield West Potomac
LB Kevin Petrillo Westfield
LB Ryan Wolfe Hayfield
LB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
LB Tyrese Randall T.C. Williams


DB Sam Kidd Madison
DB Shemahr Brown Annandale
DB Cristian Massie South County
DB Asa Ward Lake Braddock
DB Isaiah Culliver Centreville




Bubble

Eric Nabinett South County
Hunter Strebb Chantilly
Nate Avery South County
Ladarion Rivers Westfield
Chris Logan South Lakes
Tyler Iriondo Robinson
Brahim Bangura Annandale
Chris Watson Oakton



K Brian Delaney Westfield
K Matt Prosser Oakton

P Sean Ryan Fairfax


The following players star on both offense, defense and specials teams for their respective teams. I imagine they will make all region in some capacity.


Utility John Finney Madison
Utility Mark Brown Centreville
Utility Ibrahim Marnsary Lake Braddock

Mr. Fondue Wrote:
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> All region watch list
>
> Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the
> midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart.
> Slots were based upon play on film, exposure ,
> statistics, as well as raw potential to continue
> to play at a high level. I felt these players
> currently have deserved the spots they are in. I
> am sure the top teams will sneak some of their
> guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty
> of football to still be played.


I am assuming you have not watched any Battlefield games. Rivers and Petrillo for Westfield are out for the season so they won't make it. I know he was hurt early and they are not winning but I still think Muskett from West Springfield will be on your list by the end of the season.

Petrillo is not out for the year. He will be back this week. Westfield will start their annual march deep into the post-season this week. This is the time of the year when they start to really improve.

Because we all know that Westfield is god's favorite and quality always comes out on top

Seth Dunn class of 18 South county --15 receptions 313 yards 20.9 avg per catch and 5 TDs so far. With 2 called back should have 7, all he does is catch long touchdowns. overshadowed by Spalding but he always gets open.

Tim Forester OL/DL/long snapper - committed to Brown. He has had a great season so far for the Cougars.

If Utility is for two-way players, Zach Monson at WestPo never comes off the field. His highlight reel is pretty impressive.

I'm a fan of that list. However, OL Tim Forester 4 year starter at Oakton. D1 Commit to Brown. Walton could be bumped up.. very fundamentally sound. Thomas ahead of Murphy at TE. Thomas doing more damage against better opponents. Frimpong could also bump up a few spots ahead as we close in on the end of the season. DB Hunter Streb often overlooked too...

Mr. Fondue Wrote:
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> All region watch list
>
> Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the
> midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart.
> Slots were based upon play on film, exposure ,
> statistics, as well as raw potential to continue
> to play at a high level. I felt these players
> currently have deserved the spots they are in. I
> am sure the top teams will sneak some of their
> guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty
> of football to still be played.
>
> Offense
>
> *west Potomac is loaded but one guy hasn't quite
> made an absolute claim for an all region spot
>
> QB Jack McDaniels South County
> QB Jacob Keeney Hayfield
> QB Timothy Heltzel Mount Vernon
>
> RB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
> RB Jalen Jackson Annandale
> RB Spencer Alston South Lakes
> RB Landon Thomas Madison
>
> TE Andrew Park Lake Braddock
> TE Jimmy Murphy Fairfax
> TE Corey Thomas Chantilly
>
> WR Dillon Spalding South County
> WR Daniel Adu West Springfield
> WR Brian Cobbs Hayfield
> WR Quinn Parks Washington and Lee
> WR Darien Newton Mount Vernon
>
> OL Pierce Banbury Oakton
> OL Nick Bernachhi Robinson
> OL David Kroll South Lakes
> OL Jacob Laub Lake Braddock
> OL Marshal McCord McLean
> OL Cameron Lucas South County
> OL Jack Blevins Hayfield
>
>
> Bubble
>
> Mikel Gambel Mount Vernon
> Zach Monson West Potomac
> Adam Kucick Herndon
> Jacob Chautka Madison
> Ricardo Mestre Washington and Lee
> Devin Miles South Lakes
> Mark Ellis West Potomac
> Jo Jo Heisley Woodson
> Ivory Frimpong Westfield
> Julian Garret Centreville
> Brandon Lisenby West Potomac
> Reid Scarborough Robinson
> Nolan Cockrill Westfield
> Jaden Snead Herndon
> Nick Miller Washington and Lee
> Daiimon Cleveland West Potomac
> Jacquez Stewart Robinson
> Ty Crabb Lake Braddock
>
>
>
> Defense
>
> This is harder to gage with less statistics
> available
>
> DL Caleb Brooks Centreville
> DL Brailyn Franklin Battlefield
> DL Zach Jewell Westfield
> DL Brad Porter Madison
>
>
> LB Joshua King Battlefield
> LB Da'jon Bellfield West Potomac
> LB Kevin Petrillo Westfield
> LB Ryan Wolfe Hayfield
> LB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
> LB Tyrese Randall T.C. Williams
>
>
> DB Sam Kidd Madison
> DB Shemahr Brown Annandale
> DB Cristian Massie South County
> DB Asa Ward Lake Braddock
> DB Isaiah Culliver Centreville
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> Bubble
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> Eric Nabinett South County
> Hunter Strebb Chantilly
> Nate Avery South County
> Ladarion Rivers Westfield
> Chris Logan South Lakes
> Tyler Iriondo Robinson
> Brahim Bangura Annandale
> Chris Watson Oakton
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> K Brian Delaney Westfield
> K Matt Prosser Oakton
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> P Sean Ryan Fairfax
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> The following players star on both offense,
> defense and specials teams for their respective
> teams. I imagine they will make all region in some
> capacity.
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> Utility John Finney Madison
> Utility Mark Brown Centreville
> Utility Ibrahim Marnsary Lake Braddock

I didn't notice any offensive linemen on your bubble. Two additional O linemen for your consideration for this list are Tim Forster from Oakton and Brian Pevarnik from Fairfax. Both are getting looks at the next level.

Especially since some of our 5A teams are every bit as strong as 6A, how about a list of kids from those schools - especially since individual kids can be great no matter what size school?

Best running backs?

Best offensive lineman?

Although I do not have the stats for Fairfax's Ryan at punter, it is hard to believe he is doing better than Westfield's Delaney. Delaney gets my vote as both punter and kicker (KOs, not FG). Never seen anyone in the NR who has his leg.

Cockrill is arguably the best TE in the region, but Westfield has never gone to the tight end so he doesn't have the stats you usually see from a TE. He probably has better hands than either Frimpong or Eckert on the Westfield squad and has the ability to get yards with guys all over him.

Forester has already committed to Brown...he is the next level, more importantly he's Intelligent and a good young man.

Hands Down Delaney is the Best Punter in the Region/State his average would be 20 yards better if he didn't kick 8 out of 10 punts through the end zone. He had 5 punts against StoneBridge ( Who physically kicked Westfield's Ass) that travelled 55-60 yards in the air before hitting inside the 5 and rolling thru end-zone..killing his net.

Hembry is the most dynamic player at 5A in the Region Offensively and will be playing big time football at the next level as a DB.

I agree that Hembry (Broad Run)is the most dynamic player in the area - 6A, 5A, 4A, whatever.
You are correct in that he is a terrific DB, but a little short for a FS or SS, and just a step slow for CB. (4.55 range).
Sort of a tweener, although at 5'10 and 185-190, he is the strongest pound for pound runner I have seen in years. Stone Bridge will do a good job containing him, but he will take down their LB's and CB's with that shoulder dip and make them pay. Kid must have run over 15 Yorktown tacklers in 20 carries. After Stone Bridge wins in a close one, Broad Run will run the table and win in the playoffs... until they see Stone Bridge or Brooke Point (who also has a 2,000 yard rusher in the making.

d6KdE Wrote:
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> Although I do not have the stats for Fairfax's
> Ryan at punter, it is hard to believe he is doing
> better than Westfield's Delaney. Delaney gets my
> vote as both punter and kicker (KOs, not FG).
> Never seen anyone in the NR who has his leg.
>
> Cockrill is arguably the best TE in the region,
> but Westfield has never gone to the tight end so
> he doesn't have the stats you usually see from a
> TE. He probably has better hands than either
> Frimpong or Eckert on the Westfield squad and has
> the ability to get yards with guys all over him.


Yep Cockrill is very talented, it's a shame he's being primarily used as a blocker.

Nitpick w/ your bubble players: Justine Annan is having a stronger season than Daiimon Cleveland at West Potomac.

Who is POY of the year so far ? My vote goes to Keeney. If Hayfield keeps winning I dont see anybody catching him. South Lakes and Madison will be a challenge. But i mean cmon,the guy has like 30 total touchdowns.

Mcdaniels, Atkins, and Spalding aren't far behind but spalding and atkins have each been contained in 1 game and Mcdaniels not starting the season will hurt him. Its Keeneys to lose.

As far as defensive POY goes it has to be Sam Kidd from Madison. That guy is an animal at SS.

Sam Kidd returns punts too.

The WP posted a noted that Madison's QB Jacob Choutka has an almost 7:1 TD to interception ratio,best in northern region. (bonus points if you can pronounce his last name).

Anyone want to venture an early line on the Madison at South Lakes game?

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Anyone want to venture an early line on the
> Madison at South Lakes game?


Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 09, 2016 06:26AM

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
*This is the game of the week and a first must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but I'm a big believer in quality competition and Madison has been more tested. That being said the Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule and have absolutely dominated.

South Lakes Takes this Game 31 to 23...this will re-focus Madison so they have a chance to get by a Lower Seed Concorde Team like Chantilly or Westfield in the first/second round of play-offs...A chance not going to win...but a chance that's liberty Reality!

Chantilly @ Oakton (-14.0)
Oakton wins but does not cover

Edison @ Tuscarora (-45.0)
They may need some extra bulbs for the score board. Tusky covers.

Falls Church (-49.0) @ Jefferson
Falls Church covers

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Langley
Hayfield by 28.

Lake Braddock (-24.0) @ Woodson
I think LB wins, but doesn't cover that spread.

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
I'll take South Lakes.

Marshall @ Lee (-7.0)
Marshall takes this. Lee is a bad, bad football team.

Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
Yeah, I don't see Westfield losing twice in a row.

South County (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon
And the Reality Tour continues for Mt. Vernon. SoCo covers.

Stuart @ Wakefield (-1.0)
I'll take Stuart

Washington-Lee (-17.0) @ Fairfax
Washington Lee wins but doesn't cover.

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Annandale
West Potomac wins and covers.

Yorktown (-15.0) @ McLean
Yorktown covers.

Madison @ S Lakes

Its going to come down to DEFENSE. Can S Lakes run the ball. So far Alston and Mensah have run all over everyone. Will they be able to run against arguably the best defense in the region? Stone Bridge wasnt able to. Can S Lakes throw? Miles is a wily veteran at QB, and should be ready for this big contest.

Will the S Lakes defense be able to stop Madison? Here's a tidbit, Madisons 2 best running banks, Counts and Koshuto both out for the year with ACLs. Thomas is a converted tailback. He had huge games vs Yorktown and Marshall, but how will he do against better teams? This will be a huge factor. Mad has good receivers, so SL better be able to cover them in one on one matchups. Finny and Conrorti are tough in single coverage.

Special teams could be key. Both teams have had big plays this year on ST. S Lakes appears to have a better kicking game. A factor if the game is close.

I think Madison wins because of their defense. DC Razor Gordon has a great defense every year, and this team is exceptional. Once he stops the run, S Lakes will be in trouble. Same thing happened last year. Mad by at least 14.

Give me Liberty Wrote:
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> Madison @ S Lakes

> Will the S Lakes defense be able to stop Madison?
> Here's a tidbit, Madisons 2 best running banks,
> Counts and Koshuto both out for the year with
> ACLs.

Is this really true? I was at the Stone Bridge game and Counts was pretty much Madisons's running game and he was very solid.

I think South lakes will take this one. i think SL will out athlete madison and be able to get some points on the board

Since everyone always like to obsess over student enrollment below are the numbers for FCPS schools for the new school year:

Lake Braddock 2805
Chantilly 2741
Robinson 2702
Westfield 2578
West Potomac 2575
Centreville 2507
Oakton 2492
South Lakes 2483
Woodson 2411
Fairfax 2347
Herndon 2307
South County 2210
West Springfield 2209
Madison 2188
Marshall 2151
Annandale 2101
Stuart 2095
McLean 2053
Edison 2044
Mount Vernon 2008
Hayfield 1976
Langley 1973
Falls Church 1956
Jefferson 1789
Lee 1777

"Is this really true? I was at the Stone Bridge game and Counts was pretty much Madison's running game and he was very solid."

Yes, both are out.

Landon Thomas is quick, good and faster than people think. Sam Kidd has line up in the backfield too. Sophomore Brandon Walker is tough and looks good picking holes on sweeps, 6-7 yards a shot. They also runs screens inside and out to Conforti and Finney.

Like the others have said it will come down to defense, who can stop who. Madison defense closes quickly on the ball. South Lakes will get some points, I think it is on the side of whether South Lakes can slow down Madison's offense. My thought is the score will be in the 20's and may come down to missed (or not) extra points. Madison by 4 or 5.

Here is a fact you can count on. Briar Woods is going to drop Potomac Falls to 5-2 and hand them their second consecutive loss. Maffe and the boys are on a roll and are going to seize control of the Potomac District. Pierce is a much better coach than Barnes and it will show tonight. You read it here first. State Championship here we come!

Ok, so maybe Briar beats Potomac Falls. They are 5=1 because they have played an incredibly soft schedule, and got past Broad Run on Week One before Broad Run had a quarterback in. Broad Run outgunned them bu over 200 yards!
Oh, and there is absolutely NO chance that Briar beats Stone Bridge - so they have NO shot to win the district.

Halftime Madison 7 South Lakes 14

left the Braddock Woodson game at halftime - blowout 28-0 Braddock beating the snot out of the upper class Cavs.

Am at the game, Westfield just wins on last second field goal but based on getting onside kick that Westfield did not get control of before going out of bounds. Pact with the devil and the refs still works. Better to be cheaters than good, that is Westfields approach.

Madison 23 South Lakes and the Blind Mice 21

Err...typo Madison 13 South Lakes and the Blind Mice 21

Yep watching it on gameday, he did not get in bounds on control of onsides. Refs stole that game from Robinson

Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are the best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a down year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two teams by 50.

We won fair and square, fair and square I tell you. Westfield is a winner.

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are the
> best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a down
> year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two teams
> by 50.


Thank you captain obvious... regardless, as someone said before, the talent may just be more dispersed.

Westfield cheats again Wrote:
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> Am at the game, Westfield just wins on last second
> field goal but based on getting onside kick that
> Westfield did not get control of before going out
> of bounds. Pact with the devil and the refs still
> works.

It is true. I saw the refs getting paid off in the Cub Run Rec Center parking lot. To add insult to injury they did it in view of the Robinson buses.

No duh Wrote:
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> NovaCoach Wrote:
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> > Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are
> the
> > best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a
> down
> > year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two
> teams
> > by 50.
>
>
> Thank you captain obvious... regardless, as
> someone said before, the talent may just be more
> dispersed.

That might be a bit of a stretch, the '13 C'ville team beat SL by 35 in the first round of the playoffs and the '13 SL team would easily lose to this years SL team by 50 or more. I don't disagree that the NR is down this year but I do believe there is some perception inflation going on here.

South County cruised to an easy 56-13 win against Mount Vernon.

Cougars drop a heartbreaker to Chantilly 27-23. Corey Thomas s an incredible player and their offense is much better than I expected. Oakton however is a hot mess, with Rowley leaving players to dry and not adjusting his scheme or his personnel. Oakton will be missing out on playoffs this year.

Not gonna lie.... Westfield got 3-4 calls in this game that stole it from Robinson.
1) 1st half WF punts the ball into the endzone and the refs mark it down at the 1/2 yd line. Clearly a touchback

2) WF down 9 with 3 minutes left gains 10 USA on a pass, Robinson strips the ball and recovers, but the refs call him down

3) inside kicks gets batted around, WF kid falls on the ball 2 feet out of bounds and recovers it 3 feet out of bounds. Refs meet and give the ball to WF with 1 minute left

WF was completely outplayed but got a gift from the refs. We'll take it but I feel bad for the Robinson kids and coaches. Thought Robo handled it well. No coaches or players making a sense. They shook hands and left.

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Not gonna lie.... Westfield got 3-4 calls in this
> game that stole it from Robinson.
> 1) 1st half WF punts the ball into the endzone and
> the refs mark it down at the 1/2 yd line. Clearly
> a touchback
>
> 2) WF down 9 with 3 minutes left gains 10 USA on a
> pass, Robinson strips the ball and recovers, but
> the refs call him down
>
> 3) inside kicks gets batted around, WF kid falls
> on the ball 2 feet out of bounds and recovers it 3
> feet out of bounds. Refs meet and give the ball
> to WF with 1 minute left
>
> WF was completely outplayed but got a gift from
> the refs. We'll take it but I feel bad for the
> Robinson kids and coaches. Thought Robo handled
> it well. No coaches or players making a sense.
> They shook hands and left.


If you look hard you can always find calls that didn't go your way - ROB had every opportunity to win that game. They didn't close the deal and had every chance to do so.

And Westfield is favored by our savior Jesus Christ

Watch the Film jackass the on-side kick was recovered in bounds...can't miss it on the Film... Losers complain about Ref calls and last minute Bullshit when they should have put the Game away long before...slow motion...really slow motion...#97 Scoops ball, both knees down, Slides out of Bounds..possession Westfield...You lose..Sorry the better Team doesn't always win!

Broad Run beats Stone Bridge 10-7. Classic high school football game.

Guaranteed Win for Briar Woods and Guaranteed win for Stone Bridge from Above. Stick to betting on Horses Loser!

Thank goodness, Madison is now officially poised for their first Round play-off loss....the Razor was a bit dull tonight huh?

Anyone got the score of the Centreville-Herndon game?

it is a Sat aft game

cville herndon Wrote:
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> it is a Sat aft game

Oh. Anyone got a spread on that one? Centreville -24?

Madison is a legit contender. They lost to a very good South Lakes team, but played badly and still had a chance to win. If Choutka plays better in first half and couple of terrible calls don't stop them, they win that game. They are strong on defense-Porter and Kidd are both monsters and some of the best defensive players in 6A. Offense is electric with tons of playmakers-Conforti and Finney are both studs and crazy athletes, Thomas, Hecht, Kidd, and Choutka very good players. One thing that has hurt them and will hurt them is injuries, already lost 2 best running backs Counts and Koshuta to torn ACL's, Counts also starting corner(secondary struggled vs South Lakes), another big O-lineman hurt last night. Very well coached and disciplined, want to win, hungry to avenge last season when they should've gone deep in playoffs, will be a serious threat

Madison did not look that great last night against South Lakes

I understand that Westfield has a really good young running back, #8. But instead of feeding it to him all the time I think they should air it out a lot more. They have a pretty good passing attack. There's no reason they shouldn't be passing it more considering they have 2 D1 wide receivers. #4 especially is very good after the catch. So can someone tell me why they decide to pound the ball a lot or have a lot of designed QB runs when they have had a lot of success in the limited amounts of time they take deep shots?

Westfield has underutilized good receivers for years now. They are a ground and pound team even when they shouldn't be. Didn't really have a ground game last yeAr until they moved scanlon out to receiver. As a junior scanlon rarely got the ball which is crazy when you saw what he did to lake Braddock last year. Westfield has a running culture and unless they catch lightning in a bottle again like they did last year I wouldn't be surprised to see a second round exit from the playoffs.

Westfield Does not have a really good young running back...They have a Sophmore that looked pretty Good as a Freshmen against a lot of Week Talent...His success has not translated to the Varsity Level..he is not fast, rather Stiff running upright most of the Time. Now in his defense the offensive line is decimated..both big guards lost against Quince Orchard..Still nursing injuries both of them ( don't show much Heart) it has been a constant shuffle of lineman actually forcing them to start their Sophmore center to shore up the Tackle Spot. Additionally they are Utilizing one of their more skilled players as a sixth blocker on most passing downs as well as keeping a running back in to block making it easy for defenses to double cover #2 and # 4 and if you are a True Westfield fan as you state, then I don't need to tell you, every time #2 or #4 look like a Superstar...they turn around and drop the next perfect pass. The QB has a hard time working through his progressions either by pressure or tunnel vision...Westfield offensively has 3 weeks to get healthy and figure things out or you My Friend will be forced to spend Thanksgiving at your in-laws house for the first time in 6 years....Defense decimated Also...Still managing to keep offense close even with 5 Starters out...