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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Amen not man x3 ()
Date: January 26, 2012 01:09PM

Haha yep got the guts promise you that why dont you ask the ad or school board. So keep on i love it! You are speaking of things once again you know nothing about. Guess you never graduated or are you just that dumb? Haha this imposter using my name now is funny funny. So keep on please i love it.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Amen ()
Date: January 26, 2012 01:18PM

Oh my fault you must be a parent of a division 1 college bound player even though they have never played the game before. Haha

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Interested . . . . ()
Date: January 26, 2012 01:33PM

>>Here's what you said:

Hey circle of whine bet if you were a parent there
> and knew the whole truth things i have not seen
> brought up on here you would be pissed off too. I
> think it is much deeper than playing time much
> much deeper. So until you know the whole truth
> maybe you need to keep your opinions to yourself.
> Better yet go watch a game i have and its awful.
> So with that being said you enjoy your day.

"Maybe maybe not" came later. When you threw it into reverse. Because you are a coward. If you're so concerned about the LB girls' coach, how about letters to the principal? The athletic administration? The newspaper? But you don't have the guts.<<

Amen:

Leaving aside the extreme language from whoever, if you claim to know things, whynot share them? My kid's coming up at LB; if there's an issue, I'd like to know. I've seen some of the games this year.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Amen ()
Date: January 26, 2012 01:44PM

If your kid is coming up in that school wanting to play girls basketball run as fast as you can to another school. This is not a place to discuss the big issue just be careful and don't trust anyone if you have an issue. I promise it will be lied about and swept under the rug. If you want your kid to learn the right values take them to west Springfield or Robinson. I'm not saying all schools don't have issues but at some as a parent you are not allowed to voice anything. If you read this blog it seems to me that a lot of parents now and the years before are angry.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Interested . . . ()
Date: January 26, 2012 02:01PM

Amen Wrote:
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> If your kid is coming up in that school wanting to
> play girls basketball run as fast as you can to
> another school. This is not a place to discuss the
> big issue just be careful and don't trust anyone
> if you have an issue. I promise it will be lied
> about and swept under the rug. If you want your
> kid to learn the right values take them to west
> Springfield or Robinson. I'm not saying all
> schools don't have issues but at some as a parent
> you are not allowed to voice anything. If you read
> this blog it seems to me that a lot of parents now
> and the years before are angry.

Well, I have a hard time when people tell me there's a big issue, but won't say what it is. My daughter's a couple of years away; anything could happen between now and then, but you're not doing your position justice if you won't even say what it is.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Think about it ()
Date: January 26, 2012 02:21PM

Think about it people and you will figure it out.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: No Guts ()
Date: January 26, 2012 02:23PM

Hey no guts, bad assumption that the AD and principal don't know.
Don't be so naive that knowing means acting.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Hey no guts ()
Date: January 26, 2012 03:14PM

The issues have been acted upon so enough with your stupid arrogant posts. This whole issue stems beyond the coach. So enough with your stupidity. Have a nice day I'm tired of you some were just born annoying.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: DumbassMom ()
Date: January 26, 2012 03:23PM

Hey no guts Wrote:
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> The issues have been acted upon so enough with
> your stupid arrogant posts. This whole issue stems
> beyond the coach. So enough with your stupidity.
> Have a nice day I'm tired of you some were just
> born annoying.

Now go heat up some Totino's Pizza Rolls and tell your daughter how good she is at dribbling.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Guess I'm female ()
Date: January 26, 2012 03:51PM

Ha ha guess I'm a female your hysterical. Why don't you go eat your own pizza rolls maybe you can gain 350 more pounds.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Funny idiot ()
Date: January 26, 2012 03:53PM

Guess your child is the best at dribbling or does she run with the ball.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: What Issue ()
Date: January 26, 2012 04:19PM

What issue was acted upon?
What issue people?
And what do pizza rolls have to do with anything

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: funny stuff ()
Date: January 26, 2012 05:44PM

This would make a great reality TV show.
Temper Tantrums by coaches.
Frustrated parents eating pizza rolls.
Fun games with future WNBA stars.

I would watch

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: fanof LB ()
Date: January 27, 2012 12:09AM

I think the coach is doing a phenomenal job with this program. the kids are more organized and starting to win more games. you can see a real improvement from the past few years. give it time.

for the people (angry parents, obviously) who slander this coach, give it a rest. your posts are transparent and unnecessary.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: oh yes ()
Date: January 27, 2012 08:00AM

FanofLB
You know NOTHING about basketball if you think she is great.
You give it a rest. Go talk to the girls from this and last who have gotten or are getting a raw deal from this staff. You are probably a parent of one of those awesome beginners who does not no better than run with a basketball

It is all about CHARACTER FanofLB

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Ummm... ()
Date: January 27, 2012 09:32AM

oh yes Wrote:
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> FanofLB
> You know NOTHING about basketball if you think she
> is great.
> You give it a rest. Go talk to the girls from
> this and last who have gotten or are getting a raw
> deal from this staff. You are probably a parent
> of one of those awesome beginners who does not no
> better than run with a basketball
>
> It is all about CHARACTER FanofLB


Sorry, you still sound like a blithering, whining, know-nothing mom. You're the type that demands a refund of all your groceries from Giant because the plastic bag, which you DONT recycle, was ripped when you got home.

Waddle your fat whining ass into the AD's office and air your "grievance". He'll give you your 15 minutes of whine and you can feel better about yourself. And for God's sake, get off a message board. Your kid is reading your bullshit.

And, FYI, you know nothing of CHARACTER. If you did, you wouldn't be here. Also, you write like a 6th grader.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: UMMM ()
Date: January 27, 2012 09:43AM

It is the AD's fault to start with.
And you know nothing about me. I am not a mom. I don't whine.
And I have more character in my little finger than you do in your whole body.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: What is Character ()
Date: January 27, 2012 10:43AM

I am not a parent of any child there. But I feel badly for them.

I was however a coach.

I did not use curse words or stomp off in fits of anger;
I treated every child with respect and dignity;
When kids came to me I listened to their concerns and did not blow them off;
(as one poster indicated was done last year)
I treated parents with respect and did not punish their children for the parents concerns (that was in a post too)
And most of all.............
I adhered to the same standards that were expected of the players regarding their conduct.

That is character. Win or lose. That is character. Parents, players, alumni, etc. not only have a right to expect it but to DEMAND it.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: fan of LB what ()
Date: January 27, 2012 01:01PM

phenomenal ?? I guess that means running the 4 other starters out of the program and 1 to PVI. Get YOUR head out of your ass. I am thinking you meant abominable

Character reply is spot on.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: open door ()
Date: January 27, 2012 01:39PM

Most coaches who claim they have an open door policy are full of shit. Better to keep your mouth shut. They have huge egos.




What is Character Wrote:
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> I am not a parent of any child there. But I feel
> badly for them.
>
> I was however a coach.
>
> I did not use curse words or stomp off in fits of
> anger;
> I treated every child with respect and dignity;
> When kids came to me I listened to their concerns
> and did not blow them off;
> (as one poster indicated was done last year)
> I treated parents with respect and did not punish
> their children for the parents concerns (that was
> in a post too)
> And most of all.............
> I adhered to the same standards that were expected
> of the players regarding their conduct.
>
> That is character. Win or lose. That is
> character. Parents, players, alumni, etc. not
> only have a right to expect it but to DEMAND it.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Go bruins ()
Date: January 27, 2012 08:17PM

How bout them bruins

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: lol x2 ()
Date: January 27, 2012 09:41PM

A well coached game

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Woodson parent ()
Date: January 27, 2012 09:51PM

Now I see what all fuss is about.
If my kid was on that team I would blog too.
Tall kid is good

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: AAU ()
Date: January 28, 2012 11:12AM

Hey I am in AAU circuit in this county. Been to a few games this year. And I know the kids who play AAU. A couple of those kids who dont start and don't play should be. Go ahead and say I an angry parent if you want. But if you spent as much time as I have around basketball you would know much of what is being said is valid. Something about this situation stinks and it is not the girls sweaty sneakers.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: It iz the SADs ()
Date: January 28, 2012 02:53PM

Coach just likes to do things non traditional

she is strong willed, without direction

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: without direction ()
Date: January 28, 2012 04:21PM

Strong willed is ok as long as the driving force is kids welfare and not for your own ego.

Having no direction at this level is not acceptable.

I am friends with some of parents. They are afraid to speak up so they shake their heads in dismay. They fear the fallout because the admnistration has a history of looking other way. They are ready to punish kids for rule violations but turn a blind eye when it comes to adults. Poor leadership on behalf of administration. People can say what they want about C. Harris but he was and is a man of the highest character and with flawless integrity. AD needs to think long and hard about what is the right thing and not easy thing.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Phoenix ()
Date: January 29, 2012 10:01AM

The administration definitely does not look the other way. They always support the parents before their coaches. Have your parents complain to the AD and see what happens to the coach. The coach will want to leave....trust me. Even the coaches who have a winning program get little support which is baffling.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Baffled2 ()
Date: January 29, 2012 10:56AM

Not at LB.
Too many stories over too many years.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Insider ()
Date: January 29, 2012 04:45PM

The problem with these girls that aren't playing is their parents didn't prepare them for high school basketball. They played on the same AAU team with the same coach from about 6th grade on. Their parents never took them out of their comfort zone. They never told them hey when you get to high school you may not like your coach and you will have two choices play or quit. By not preparing them they set them up to fail. The whole ride home these same parents are telling their kid you are so good and your teammate x is much worse then you why does she play more? Your coach is so stupid. What they do unknowingly is break down the team and erase any respect the coach has earned with the player. For the parents on this thread such it up and deal with it. Tell your kids in life nothing is fair. The only thing they deserve in school its an education not playing time or a coach they like.

BTW - the coach must be doing right by one of the kids who was recently nominated as 2nd team all-met. When was the last time LB had that honor?

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Any team ()
Date: January 29, 2012 05:04PM

Any team would nominate that girl!

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Any team ()
Date: January 29, 2012 05:12PM

Why do you think these girls have played on the same AAU team aren't there four soph four fresh and four juniors? How do you know who has played together unless you are directly involved with that team? I just looked at their roster and four from each grade. How do you know what the parents say to the kids? I have a child who plays a diffrent sport and always tell him to work harder and if he has a bad game I never sugar coat it. So you judging what parents say to their kids is your opinion. Unless I am in car with other parents or hear them I don't pass judgement on what they do with their children.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Insider Response ()
Date: January 29, 2012 08:19PM

Any team is right. Insider how do you Know what is said between a parent and a child. You sound like coaching staff again.

Sorry but What is Character is right. Kids do deserve a positive example win or lose.

Natalie Butler is a true talent. Of course she will he honored. She earned this inspite of the staff not becuase of it.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: no prep needed ()
Date: January 29, 2012 08:29PM

Hey preparation is not needed for this team. Couple of starters had never even heard the words AAU til this year. If you read an earlier post it clearly says two never even played County. Just maybe the coach is wrong. Maybe it is politics. Who knows. Yes one of the lessons of life is things are not fair. Another is to stand up for what you think is right.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Any team ()
Date: January 29, 2012 08:32PM

Im not saying you are coaching staff! I was merly asking questions to your post. I do believe that all children need a positive example whether that be by coaches, teachers, parents etc... I'm not saying this coach is bad i have no idea if she is. I'm not a parent of a child there so I don't know but It just seemed like your post was stating that the parents are telling their children they are good? Some parents may but not all parents do so you sound like your pointing fingers at ALL parents sorry if I read your post wrong. But it also sounds like you either have a child on that team or are close in some way. Sorry if my post offended you it was not meant that way at all. I'm actually tired of hearing the nasty arguing.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Really seriously concerned ()
Date: January 29, 2012 09:17PM

Everyone please shut the f--k up about this already. Same thing over and over and over and over. Posting on here is doing nothing, so just shut the f--k up and move on.



Also...............................



goobly gobbily gibbly jibbly bobibly boobibly bopidy boop

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Free Country ()
Date: January 30, 2012 12:42PM

People can post if they want.
Free world. Maybe one day AD will wake up. If it is bothering you dont read it.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Lost cause ()
Date: January 30, 2012 02:43PM

Ad will do nothing promise

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: this county ()
Date: January 30, 2012 03:19PM

And that is what is wrong with our county and our world

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Really seriously concerned ()
Date: January 30, 2012 03:25PM

Free Country Wrote:
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> People can post if they want.
> Free world. Maybe one day AD will wake up. If it
> is bothering you dont read it.


And to that I say......................................



goobly gobbily gibbly jibbly bobibly boobibly bopidy boop

Still shut the f--k up!!!!!

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Teeter ()
Date: January 30, 2012 04:57PM

Really Seriously

Go post on the Harris Teeter blog.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Yeah buddy ()
Date: January 30, 2012 11:47PM

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah buddy. How 'bout dem lady Bruins? Oh, yeaaaaaaaaah! Guess all dem whiny parents are wrong about lady coach not knowing her bball skills and be coaching dem up real good like see. Dey gave dem SoCo girls a whooping, Austin 3:16 style if ya know what i be sayin'.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Yeah ok ()
Date: January 30, 2012 11:53PM

You do realize sc is one of the worst in district right?

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: yeah - really ()
Date: January 31, 2012 08:28AM

LB Lady Bruins - Congrats.
But put it in perspective whichever parent or coach posted the Yeah Buddy.
It was South County. Not worth a parade or a coaching commendation.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Red Auerbach ()
Date: January 31, 2012 01:04PM

We're talking about basketball. Chill out folks. It's basketball. Move on, there's nothin to see here. Nobody, and I mean nobody, at LBSS is going to be a future professional basketball player. What's at stake here??? If you're not on varsity, go play youth, CYO, house, backyard, recreational basketball for the love of the game.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Thought for today ()
Date: January 31, 2012 03:11PM

Leadership is a combination of strategy and character. If you must be without one, be without the strategy.
— H. Norman Schwarzkopf, Army general

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: another thread ()
Date: January 31, 2012 06:57PM

If you are looking for something new to think about try the thread on dog crapping in yard. Funny stuff.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: back to the basics ()
Date: February 01, 2012 12:20PM

I for one, really enjoy fundamentals...bounce passing, teamwork, running with the ball like an intermural rugby game...*shudder*

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Basics ()
Date: February 01, 2012 05:02PM

Normally at the varsity level the basics are understood if not mastered.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Character ()
Date: February 01, 2012 05:55PM

Coaching is so much more than teaching the fundamentals.
It is about earning and keeping players' respect.
About building cohesiveness and team chemistry.

It is about character.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Pathetic ()
Date: February 01, 2012 10:02PM

The situation at LB is pathetic.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Not looking ()
Date: February 01, 2012 10:22PM

Just a bunch of winey ass parents bitching over and over and over and over

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Season is almost over ()
Date: February 01, 2012 11:05PM

In 2 weeks you can talk about how bad the softball and soccer coach are. Make sure you call the thread LB thread not about girls bball. Nobody recruits from high school anymore anyway. So tell your kid they will train all winter to prepare for AAU in hopes the college scouts see them.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: NOT in the NO ()
Date: February 02, 2012 12:39AM

So OBVIOUSLY "Season is almost over" doesn't have a fucking clue as to what he/she/it is talking about, since Brenda Frese was at the game. I mean I am right, right? Or, maybe AAU season is now in full swing. Dumb ass.

I can only assume she was looking at Butler. Not too sure what all the hoopla is about LB and their coach. I have seen them play Robinson, twice in the Christmas tournament, and last night. If anyone on the thread thinks for a second that that team hasn't improved, then there is something extremely wrong with what you consider "improvement".

In the Robinson game, LB was blown out. It was something like 17 or 19-2 at the end of the 1st qtr. Rob let up and so LB had some dignity left.

I saw the Christmas tournament and you could tell they had improved, albeit not very much, though they should have lost to LC.

Then tonight I saw a team that was nothing like the same team I saw in December. They actually looked like they had some idea of what they were doing.

So, in closing:

LB's coach can't be doing everything wrong if her team is getting better, and you idiots who post on here killing this lady are nothing but a bunch of people who honestly don't have one iota of what you're are talking about.

That is all.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: In the KNOW ()
Date: February 02, 2012 05:08AM

At a USJN tournament there would have been over 200 schools in a the gym. Looking at about 1,200 girls. So again recruiting is not done at the high school level anymore. In the case of the jr at LB she doesn't play AAU so you may get a few trickling in. If she was on the circuit she would have offers already. Like the other jr that would have been at LB and is instead at PVI. Last count she had 4 offers. I will take offers over Brenda Freese watching someone any day of the week. I take nothing away from the player my point was in 2 weeks the season would be over and LB parents could focus on another coach to complain about. Translation I was on the coaches side.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: To In the KNow ()
Date: February 02, 2012 09:26AM

No kidding In the Know....
You were the one who said nasty things about the girls early on.

I don't think anyone has said she does everything wrong.

But if you come on here and deny that there have been some serious issues then you must be a coach, a member of the coaches family, etc.

It is like everything in this county.

Nothing is ever fair.
Kids get hurt in the end...

But In the Know does not care about those kids cause they"suck". They don't even deserve to be treated nicely.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Old ()
Date: February 02, 2012 11:13AM

This blog is really getting tired!

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: tired2 ()
Date: February 02, 2012 06:47PM

Yes the whole situation is enough to make ypu tired

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Day off ()
Date: February 05, 2012 11:17AM

Post is quiet for a few days. LB parents must be at SuperBowl.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: They're better.... ()
Date: February 05, 2012 12:28PM

Day off Wrote:
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> Post is quiet for a few days. LB parents must be
> at SuperBowl.


Or they are playing better thus the parents' effort proved futile.

I think I'll go with the above.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: get over yourself ()
Date: February 05, 2012 12:45PM

Of course they are better at end of season. Means nothing

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: But, but, but..... ()
Date: February 05, 2012 04:42PM

get over yourself Wrote:
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> Of course they are better at end of season. Means
> nothing


YOU. ARE. AN. IDIOT!!!

What you replied to my post with makes absolutely ZERO sense.

Re-read your post. Take a step back and let it register. Than find a way to remove your post, which you can't, but try anyway.

Now, once you've down that, post an apology.

Look dumb-ass, anyone low-life could explain to you coaches are judged by what they do towards the end of the season, and not at the beginning; i.e. if a team gets better, then coach has done a good job. If they haven't, then coach stinks.

See if you can absorb that.

We don't have time to explain sensible things to those who should already know that. OY!

Good luck with that you Flippin' whacko.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Whateverx2 ()
Date: February 06, 2012 08:23AM

Well but, but, but
At least some people on here are not rude

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: to the but...poster ()
Date: February 06, 2012 12:39PM

Listen But But......
I am a fan and always have been and know the game.

When you take kids who have never played and don't know the fundadmentals and start and play them over seasoned players game after game of course they will get better. They had no where to go but up......

You are probably the same person talking about kids sucking, etc. etc.

Of course nothing will change. It NEVER does with LB sports. LB more interested in status quo than doing the right think.

Talk to the parents.....if you can get them to talk. Most too afraid and who can blame them?? Sit in the stands.

The Coach is a good person and was a great player.......no one questions that.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Buster ()
Date: February 07, 2012 03:57AM

But but but...you sound just like the girls' basketball COACH..very rude. Your choice of language and style, that's exactly how she talks to them when she gets mad. tsk tsk tsk

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Just the Fax ()
Date: February 07, 2012 08:22AM

There is a difference in being rude and stating the facts.
The above are facts.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Just the Fax ()
Date: February 07, 2012 08:23AM

I do agree that But But is quite rude though which is what you meant.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: titans ()
Date: February 08, 2012 05:53PM

Remember the Titans

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: rip ()
Date: February 08, 2012 08:49PM

Thank goodness this is almost over

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: a Great Player? hmm D-3 ()
Date: February 08, 2012 09:16PM

to recent observation above that : "
The Coach is a good person and was a great player.......no one questions that."..
UMMMMmmm I DO ! From what I have read and heard... Good people dont curse at players in practice and during games..good people dont refuse to go in the locker room at half time cause their team pissed them off...and get techs good people dont drink at parties where team parents and players are present and then drive home afterwards, they set an example...good people dont not respond to parents requests for a 10 minute meeting in order to decide if they want their daughter to play for you...good people dont shut up all the seniors and a very good junior player when they ask to be heard causing them to quit the team (and no you are NOT a quitter if you refuse to be abused)and finally,you absolutely are NOT a "Great" player if you played D-3 ball for a few years at Mary f-en Washington ! lol a google search will find you some assists and jumpers in 2006-08, equal press to the turnovers and fouls and you;ll be hardpressed to find a game where she scored more than 16 once. So no lets not pretend this job was landed on anything other than a 'connection' with the AD...enough to disregard some extremely qualified candidates.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: More>coaches drinking ()
Date: February 09, 2012 01:15AM

I live in the neighborhood and used to attend Friday girls and/ or boys home games with my dad until I head about some of these things. Looks like someone finally brought up another big elephant in the room that was not previously addressed., only took three pages to get to it, the party most everyone knows about where coach and her assistant coach brother drank(covered by a koozie like that fooled the girls),the team was there, parents were there (I will verify this as I spoke to 2 personally so this is not false gossip. I also saw one of the LBB players at Noodles and asked her about this party and she said "I have been told not to talk about it so I'd rather not" WOWWwwser ) All drove home afterwards. This drinking at a LB sports affiliated party was brought up to AD who told concerned citizens who asked him that he had researched it and it was "handled". His official line is that things were exaggerated. ----drinking, driving, drinking driving, those two words should not go together EVER, no exaggeration to it !
Things were 'handled'REALLY? How so?I dont recall any coach suspensions at the very least! The sports participation handbook for Fairfax county sets forth strict policies for offenses. Be curious if there is even a letter of reprimand in the file which I doubt. If a student participating in a sport drinks they are at the very least suspended but if the coach drinks &drives it is ok. after all, she is perrrrrty . Coaches are of a legal age so it is ok? the AD pumped up the resume of his hand picked Vogues pick as stated in previous posts, he does not want to reprimand or research this, there is a vested interest in sweeping this all under the Fairfax cty/ LB good ol boy network rug. Great example setting. I think of it every time I drive up Burke Lake road and pass the tree that is a memorial to a young Lake Braddock girl whose life was cut short there , from apparently thinking this could never happen to her. Maybe she watched this behavior condoned somewhere as well....The crap that seems to REALLY go on at LB goes far beyond whether the 2 little freshmen with no basketball experience should be on the team, or if they have improved after starting out not knowing how to run a three on three drill in a varsity practice, or if the team can get a couple more wins than previous Vogues coach Harris. It has gone from horrible to just plain bad so there is improvement.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Laaaauuughing ()
Date: February 09, 2012 08:40AM

Man, some bitchy parents in LB sports, ain't there? Maybe if YOU drank a little more, your personality might improve.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: NotSure ()
Date: February 09, 2012 09:10AM

Not sure how this person responding to recent posts could conclude there is a "bitchy parent' issue in the previous post when that person was clearly just a neighborhood person who sounds like they know some of the parents and attended games. Clearly they mention nothing asociated with play time of their daughter. They are concerned about character and immaturity of a coach who sets the example of drinking and driving. Drinking more would not cure the clearly deep seeded issues associated with that program that seem to run past even the Vogues/LB Athletic director . Serious allegations here should not be taken lightly that could end up with more girls wrapped around trees and some jerk sums that up as a 'bitchy parent'.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: moveon.org ()
Date: February 09, 2012 09:33AM

This thread is getting really redundant. If even 10% of the stuff on here is true (and of course we know EVERYTHING on FU is true--no rumor or innuendo here), AND if parents are not getting heard at the school level, then they need go above that level to the cluster office WITH EVIDENCE in the form of affadavits, etc. and demand that their concerns be addressed. Believe me, this has been done before with coaches being fired as a result. Better yet, just call the Post and get one of their reporters on it. FCPS hates it when they make headlines about stuff like this.

The dead horse is neighing, the season is almost done. Time to move on.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: ClusterAction ()
Date: February 09, 2012 11:50AM

If is is Cluster and it is Fairfax County being asked to do something about their ADs actions at Lake Braddock that has so many successful sports programs, you can bet LB Girls basketball will be the sacrificial lamb cluster F*CK! Nothing will be done

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: moveon.org ()
Date: February 09, 2012 12:18PM

Well, then call the Post but continuing to post on here won't do a thing. Or, better yet, do what everyone else does and move your future WNBA star out of the district or to a private like Paul VI. Heck, even one of LB's current GBB players played with Robinson for part of the summer, including team camp, before deciding to stay put. And it worked out well for Zanellato on the football side to make a switch when he and his parents weren't happy with how he was being treated/utilized/peddled to recruiters, etc,, etc. at Robinson.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: 10%Truths ()
Date: February 09, 2012 01:19PM

Lets ADD to the 10% truths on here and not make it sound like Butler decided to "stay put" at Lake Braddock on her own. The family applied to Robinson to do the IB program and German emersion and the AD denied it. The school nixed that one just as it did when the Curtis' girl who went to PVI tried to transfer to Robinson for the IB program. Butlers were looking at the private schools as well but Natalie would have had to play JV for a year at that point as is the WCAC rule. The Zanellatos were able to MOVE into LB district or they would have had an issue as well.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: moveon.org ()
Date: February 09, 2012 02:16PM

Never named names and never said she did. And if the JV rule is true, how did the kid who played Varsity at a different FCPS school her Freshman year and transferred to a WCAC school her sophomore year (last year) play Varsity right away? And it is still not an untruth to say that her family decided she should stay put. They could have made a different decision and moved or let her play JV at the private school or just sit out a season, train and play AAU which is where 99% of recruiting occurs anyway. She's a great player and D1 coaches will find her wherever she is.

At any rate, I have NO sympathy for LB parents at all. The LB football coach is the biggest, most classless ass I have ever seen. If he had a losing record, he'd be gone. LB's parents just tolerate him because all they care about is winning. Believe me, if this GBB coach had LB on the path to States, we wouldn't be hearing a word other than the usual classless behavior of LB fans from the stands.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Wrong ()
Date: February 09, 2012 04:27PM

From these last few posts it does not seem like winning is the issue. These last few posts talk about somethng else

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: no laughing matter ()
Date: February 09, 2012 04:43PM

Thousands of teens die every year in alcohol related accidents. This is nothing to laugh about and make fun of. EVER! Preventing kids from drinking and driving way more important than a sports game.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Laaaughing. ()
Date: February 09, 2012 05:23PM

Man, you people are stone-cold-irritating. Your idea of dealing with this issue is to whine like little pussies on this board. Hey, got a problem? You REALLY think the alcohol issue is a big deal? Call the freakin' Washington Post. Tell the Fairfax Connection. Tell the folks at Patch. But you don't have the stones; you'd rather just drop mysterious anonymous accusations. Way to accomplish precisely NOTHING. I hope the coach keeps her job forever, just to shove it up your collective asses.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Be a good citizen ()
Date: February 09, 2012 05:48PM

Laughing. I know how you can become less irritated. Call up the Post yourself. Maybe they can at the least write a story on empowering the powerless or the politics of sports at all levels. I believe the earlier poster said that the AD knew. So someone on here or associated with program had "stones". Go troll a blog that doesn't bother you so much.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: 10% Truths ()
Date: February 09, 2012 06:45PM

Very simple to look up the WCAC rules. Anyone can play Freshman or Sophomore year immediately. When you hit your Junior year you can no longer go straight to Varsity. Butler is a Junior so she would have had to sit out for a year on JV. I personally think the higher caliber practice team with varsity there would have raised her game and taught her more with the well connected and knowledgeable coach there but certainly understand the sacrifices that would have meant to give up friends and the comfort of a short drive to school. The Curtis girl played Varsity at LB her freshman year and transferred to PVI her Sophomore year and played immediately, till injured. Just saying, You did not paint the full picture, you painted it with half a brush stroke. Not everyone can pick up and move their lives and purchase a new home at the drop of a hat when AD and his Robinson buddy decide to finally answer at end of summer to NOT permit the transfer. Seems to be an agreement there in place. The moveon. post states they "decided to stay put" that is not the full truth. now you have it. Last few posts talking about going to the press and that everyone is a pussy for not doing so. parents and community have been attempting to work up the chain and are seeing the resistence and stonewalling from AD. It is an appalling and eye-opening experience I am sure. Did they contact a school board contact?? YES !! They were told they discussed it with the AD and it is a non-issue. They have simply been trying to keep it in house but there have been attempts. I would bet after the season is over you will hear more. Maybe the seniors who quit or their parents will speak out to make things better for those that follow. but current parents know if they speak out they are punished, daughter benched, that is quite simply the 100% truth
Fairfax County sports: Absolute power corrupts absolutely as stated in a previous post by more>coaches drinking. Well said

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Truthandtruth ()
Date: February 09, 2012 07:07PM

10% truth telling the truth.
Doing the right thing has had consequences. People in stands talk about it. Everyone aware.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: NewsOutlets ()
Date: February 09, 2012 08:47PM

ROFLMAO
..........................
........still laughing............
Did someone REALLY just suggest this abuse of power issue should be brought to the Connection or the Patch for research and resolution????? They do not employ research journalists/ They have reporters who I am sure are all very nice but they wont be digging deep or getting involved with this . phew that is funny stuff

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: BurkePatch ()
Date: February 09, 2012 11:45PM

Quick// Call the Patch

maybe they can help the parents with collecting affidavits about a party that happened months ago. The trail has gone cold.. hey maybe Cold Case can help! This blog making some good points and revelations. Sad it has to resort to calling news organizations because AD did no due diligence and has school board contact in his pocket as well
Quick/ call the Patch

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Cluster? ()
Date: February 10, 2012 12:01AM

Useful suggestion about contacting the cluster rep, I assume this is someone over a group of schools, though It has been so many years since I went to school in Fairfax Cty but I don't even remember this as an option. Something new?

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Watergate ()
Date: February 10, 2012 09:40AM

The cluster office does not care.
Just like in Watergate, only the media could make things right. And we are not talking about the Patch or Connection. Where is Dan Rather when you need him?

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: No Drinking AlloweD ()
Date: February 10, 2012 03:08PM

The lesson here is drinking of any kind does not mix well with high school sports. It is clearly not supposed to happen per rules.

Fairfax County, like almost all counties in this country already do, needs to educate staff and then enforce its zero tolerance policy. It is about character. In other words, don't tell me how to behave, show me. Way more important than hoops.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: enough now. ()
Date: February 10, 2012 05:12PM

the slandering/gossip-spreading on this message board is completely inappropriate.

high school basketball is a voluntary activity in which nobody is forced to play, and there are other leagues available. if you are unhappy with the school/AD/coach, then you don't have to play. it really is that simple.

enough is enough.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: stupid ()
Date: February 10, 2012 05:44PM

3 pages about fn girls basketball, who cares. You all live in your spoiled nova bubble. Shut up

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: this county ()
Date: February 10, 2012 06:30PM

The way FC operates not appropriate either but suppose you can always move.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: not slander If True ()
Date: February 10, 2012 11:00PM

the slandering/gossip-spreading on this message board is completely inappropriate.

high school basketball is a voluntary activity in which nobody is forced to play, and there are other leagues available. if you are unhappy with the school/AD/coach, then you don't have to play. it really is that simple.

enough is enough.
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When something is true it is not slander so take the big legalese and shove it. If someone wants to post here they can and you can stop checking it . You can google stuff here and see it is true. It is what it is what it is and it is true.
enough is enough of the abusive unchecked power so after the season we should all look into approaching the "cluster" and ask for an investigation. we meaning parents, kids, concerned community members, alumni, former parents and kids who left for private schools, players forced to quit etc. you can see how AD has hired the last three coaches from his Vogues organization over very qualified candidates.
--Enough is enough. many have apparently known about the drinking party where coaches drove home but noone brought it up till page three here . The resolution is NOT to tell the athletes to not play you moron. This volunteer sport participation is at a public high school where residents pay taxes and kids and parents have "usually" (except on Lake Braddock) put in a lot of time, dues and effort to reach playing varsity for their school team. They have a right to play for their school if they have put in the time over the years, they have a right to expect that they will be given a fair shot with the most qualified coach who has earned the right to run a program at a school the size of Lake Braddock. They have a right to be coached by a mature seasoned coach at this level. It is a dream for many that is not resolved by just not playing because a rogue A D can do whatever he wants and hire the least experienced pretty candidate. You attempt to address the problem but as stated for three pages the AD has a rubber stamp from some stacked 'approval committee' .other leagues available? There is only one high school that your child attends and one basketball team. You don't QUIT and wait for AAU season or just not play. The answer is to try and change the system if it has no ethical standards. The system is broken and rampant with abusive power that sweeps everything under the rug, punishes the parents and kids for raising anything and this is definitely not over. Enough is enough of the sacrificial lamb play toy of the AD called girls basketball at LB.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: WhaaaHuh?? ()
Date: February 11, 2012 02:40AM

"<<<< if you are unhappy with the school/AD/coach, then you don't have to play. it really is that simple. >>>"

and along that same insane reasoning--
If you are unhappy with Jerry Sandusky molesting little boys in the shower you dont go into the shower anymore
"it really is that simple."
--If Rosa Parks did not like that she had to sit in the back of the bus she should have just not ridden the bus .it is just that simple

What a ridiculous comment to not play because of all the wrong that is happening there. this is what is wrong with america today.
Sometimes you just have to take a stand when something is obviously just plain wrong my child. You can't stand by and watch a program get lynched without trying to at least cut down the rope

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: This is what happens ()
Date: February 11, 2012 12:37PM

This should have been dealt with long ago
It likely will not go away until someone does.
It is sad. It is heartbreakng. It is demoralizng to the kids.

But it is.

The truth usually has a way of coming out.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Checks and Balances ()
Date: February 11, 2012 01:43PM

It really perplexes me how people on here can actually respond with MOVE or Quit as an option to resolve the issues. What a moral compass that person has. ( WHAAAAHUH/ toooo funny! Love the Rosa Parks analogy.? And I suppose all women who previously did not have the right to vote should have left the country as well? And homosexuals should kill themselves cause fighting for equality is a waste of time, and blacks should have stuck to their own drinking fountains. What a complete jerk
In a democratic country people can usually speak up but in Lake Braddock there are numerous families who have tried to do so over the years and have they have been punished for doing so. In a democratic country the powers that be have checks and balances. It is not a perfect system but it has allowed this country to prosper.There is a legislative a judicial and the executive branch. The president can not make unilateral decisions without being reigned in by the other branches and answer to the electorate. At Lake Braddock there are no checks and balances, it is clear the athletic director has all the control over any decision related to GBB. It is a dictatorship. He does well in most of the other programs so the principals pat answer to people who try to even bring up anything to him is that he has hired an AD to hire coaches and it is HIS decision all the way. There is a review committee which he is on but they just go through the motions of an interview as it is clear to everyone the AD makes the decision. So the review committee is a joke. I do not have a stake in the battle but I feel sorry for them. My son played on the boys side years ago so I am aware of how things work there. LOl wish I had a blog to vent on during those years but HEY you guys really should follow up and call for an investigation!!

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: People afraid ()
Date: February 11, 2012 01:55PM

No one believes things can change.
They will complain but won't stand up and be heard.
Been that way for years. My kids went there and played sports.
Girls basketball not the only problem.

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: Last page of posts ()
Date: February 11, 2012 02:49PM

I am not a previous poster on this blog but I have been made aware of it as a former player myself and have been reading it. I must say , is it me or does the caliber of the posts seem to be getting more entertaining not to mention more intelligent?? You GO ! lol

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: truthx4 ()
Date: February 11, 2012 04:25PM

The truth is interesting once it comes out

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: coyrage ()
Date: February 11, 2012 05:33PM

Parents need more courage

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Re: Lake braddock girls basketball
Posted by: It gets better ()
Date: February 11, 2012 06:18PM

It gets better just wait until what else comes out very funny actually.

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