put a tent over this circus Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Time for The BOS to step up to the plate and save
> us from these misfits.
>
> The BOS gabe SOCO community TEN MILLION DOLLARS
> for a school we don't even need!!!
>
> Why can't they fund a modest renovation for
> Clifton for $5 million?
>
> This SB and Dale's staff are so unprofessional and
> hateful. Our tax dollars at work, folks.


Why should the BOS fund $5 million when the School Board, according to Dean Tisdadt's email, is sitting on $40 million!!!

BDU Bob, Loony Lizzie, Arrogant Andrew and Conflict Cassie

This whole planning and boundary study is nothing more than a study in the completely absurd.
Attachments:

Liz, in the letter to Jack Dale, called our national Anthem the "Star Spangle Banner", it's Spangled. Maybe they sing it that way at Villanova.

more Cassie:

[annandale.patch.com]

Southwestern Committee members urged the Annandale Committee to remember that the process involves everyone.
"It has to be a big-picture process," said Cassie Eatmon of Virginia Run Elementary School in Centreville. "It can't be about just looking out for your own school. Leave your school at the door."


Of course, Option D does leave Virginia Run untouched in the Southwest redistricting. So much for "leaving your school at the door." Or did Kathy cave to other political friends?

If history repeats itself, FCPS will present options A thru E(?) to the public and then will do a surprise vote and it will be on Z. That is even what they did with Clifton. It was never discussed to just close Clifton. It was always close Clifton and build a new school.

My bet is Sangster is going to get the big surprise this time (maybe Bob knows something...). Sangster already has good scores and will be taking on high scoring students therefore it is likely they will get the most overcrowding because FCPS will figure they can absorb the most overcrowding without it lowering scores. All you have to do is watch a Board Meeting and you'll figure out that it's all about the scores! That is part of how they get their funding. Take cover Sangster...

Teachers at Clifton were told the school MAY remain open for one more year till they figure out where all the Clifton kids are going to go. What a hot mess for everyone.

SangsterFalling Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If history repeats itself, FCPS will present
> options A thru E(?) to the public and then will do
> a surprise vote and it will be on Z. That is
> even what they did with Clifton. It was never
> discussed to just close Clifton. It was always
> close Clifton and build a new school.
>
> My bet is Sangster is going to get the big
> surprise this time (maybe Bob knows something...).
> Sangster already has good scores and will be
> taking on high scoring students therefore it is
> likely they will get the most overcrowding because
> FCPS will figure they can absorb the most
> overcrowding without it lowering scores. All you
> have to do is watch a Board Meeting and you'll
> figure out that it's all about the scores! That
> is part of how they get their funding. Take cover
> Sangster...


Keeping Clifton Elementary open is the one and only thing that would have kept Sangster from becoming overcrowded. The parents over there just aren't engaged though. It's hard to tell whether they just don't know what is going on or if they simply don't care.

The STALKER SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER is plotting out where the Clifton PTA President lives?!

I am seriously - seriously - creeped out!!!

PTA Presidents beware - if the STALKER SB Member is out for you, will she email YOU? bully YOU? and gun for YOUR school?

And shame on Peter Noonan - parent at Clifton Elementary and FCPS' top RAT.
You are now a known despicable human being.

___________________________________________________________________________
From: "Noonan, Peter J"
To: "Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)"
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:49:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Upcoming events...


Just thought you would want the info. Thanks for all you do!

Peter J. Noonan
Assistant Superintendent
Instructional Services
Fairfax County Public Schools
571-423-4510

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2010, at 8:48 PM, "Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board
Member)" wrote:

> Thank you.
> As an FYI the Clifton PTA Pres. lives 3.6 miles from Silverbrook ES
> and approx. 4.5 from South County. I just kind of found that
> interesting knowing that both Clifton ES and Robinson are much
> further---just interesting--
>
> I am seeking a trying to seek resolution.
> Have a good weekend,
> Liz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Noonan, Peter J
> To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member); Tistadt, Dean; Butz,
> Leslie L.; Hunter, Barbara M. (Gatehouse)
> Sent: Fri May 21 17:10:51 2010
> Subject: FW: Upcoming events...
>
> FYI
>
> Peter Noonan
> Assistant Superintendent, Instructional Services
> Fairfax County Public Schools
> Fairfax Ridge Building
> 571-423-4510
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michellestein [mailto:michellestein@cox.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:04 AM
> To: 'Michelle Stein'
> Subject: Upcoming events...
>
> A concert benefiting the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society will be held
> this Saturday, May 22nd at 7:00 p.m. at the Heart in Hand restaurant on
> Main Street in Clifton, Virginia. The concert features the City Dwelling
> Nature Seekers, a folk rock band from Pittsburgh including Clifton's own
> Matt Booth and Special Guest Colin Thompson. The event was coordinated by Katie
> Gogoel. The suggested donation is $10.
>
> Need winefest volunteers for Sat May 29th!
> www.cliftonwinefestival.com
> Work and get free pass for you and a friend, email michellestein@cox.net
> Time slots: 10:30 to 1:30, 1:30 to 4, 4 to 6:30
> Please let me know if you can help, which time and what you would
> prefer to do:
> Ticket sales - filled for 1st time slot
> Kids area - filled for 1st time slot
> Security - filled for second time slot
> Will call - filled for 1st & 2nd time slot
> Clean up/trash
>
> There is still time to apply for the CBA Scholarship! Applications
> are at www.cliftonva.org
>
> The report out of the Southwestern Regional Planning Study Committee
> was provided to the full School Board. The following schedule is
> associated with a decision to either keep Clifton open or close the facility:
> June 10, 2010 - 7-10 PM @ Luther Jackson Middle School - Regular
> School Board Meeting. School Board will discuss the future of Clifton
> Elementary in a regular session/meeting for the first time (outside of a work
> session).
> This meeting is where the "meat" of the discussions among Board
> members are likely to occur as this is a topic of "New Business" at this
> meeting. It is important that the Clifton Community attend this meeting to show our support for our school.
> June 14, 2010 - Time TBD, Likely Afternoon @ Gatehouse Admin Center,
> Rm 1600 Full School Board Work Session. A work session to discuss their
> questions and perspectives (one of a number of topics for discussion this day
> - not the sole focus of the meeting but an agenda item). The room holds up
> to 99 occupants and a strong showing again by Clifton Community members
> here in this more intimate meeting setup would be great! (though citizens
> are not typically permitted to engage in discussions with the Board here).
> June 28, 2010 - Time TBD @ Luther Jackson Middle School - Public
> Hearing RE: Clifton Elementary Renovation/Closure The full School Board will
> attend this meeting where citizens are able to address the Board regarding the
> topic at hand. Each citizen has 3 minutes to address the Board and must sign
> up in advance of the meeting to speak. Copies of your remarks must be
> provided the evening of the meeting and further details regarding the Public
> Hearing process will be found on the FCPS web site. If many citizens
> register to speak a second evening for the Public Hearing will take place June
> 30, 2010 at a time TBD @ Luther Jackson Middle School. It is critical that the
> Clifton Community have a LARGE presence at this public meeting even
> if you do not plan to address the Board with remarks.
> July 8, 2010 - 7-10 PM @ Luther Jackson Middle School - Regular
> School Board Meeting. This is the meeting where the final vote regarding the
> future of Clifton Elementary will be taken. Clifton Community members are
> strongly encouraged to attend this session as well as the meetings on June 10
> and June 28 to show our numbers. Just showing up on July 8 will be too
> late to get involved (please plan to attend this date in addition to prior
> dates). Ideally, it would be great to see you at each of these meetings so
> that the School Board members can see that the residents of the Clifton
> community feel strongly about keeping our school. However, if you can only
> pick one or two we would suggest the meetings on June 10th and June 28th.
> www.savecliftonelementary.org
> PLEASE ALSO WRITE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND HAVE ALL FAIRFAX COUNTY
> VOTERS YOU KNOW WRITE AS WELL!!!!
>
> On July 1, 2010, Clifton-Fairfax Station Transition In Place Services
> (CFS-TIPS) will offer the following services to members:
> Transportation to any destination within a 20 mile radius of the member's home.
> Household Service - including cleaning, yard work, and simple repairs.
> Companion Services - including visiting, reading, playing games and watching
> movies. Membership is open to aging residents who live within the Clifton and
> Fairfax Station geographic area, which is defined as south of
> Braddock Road, north of the Occoquan River, east of Union Mill Road and west of Ox Road (Route 123).
> To become a member call Dana LaFever, Member Services Manager, at
> 703-609-3479
> Volunteers are still needed to drive, perform light household
> services and provide companion services to our friends and neighbors in the
> community who need our help. To become a volunteer call Nancy Simmons, Volunteer Coordinator, at 703-250-5984
>
> Michelle Stein
> Clifton Betterment Association
> michellestein@cox.net www.cliftonva.org
> 703-539-8000 office 703-830-4908 home

In the know Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Teachers at Clifton were told the school MAY
> remain open for one more year till they figure out
> where all the Clifton kids are going to go. What a
> hot mess for everyone.


Maybe FCPS has finally figured out that their goal of socioeconomic reegineering and trying to push people into sending their kids to private schools is becoming moot with regard to Clifton. 95% of the houses on the market in Clfiton at the end of last summer were foreclosures. Enrollments at CES and other schools will likely INCREASE as parents pull their kids out of private schools and put them into FCPS. Anyone heard of overcrowding?

Liz solicits letters supporting closure of CES from parents not even in her district, and then plays coy with Janie when asked where this parent is from! WOW! Liz, you never cease to amaze me. And Kara, I'm truly at a loss for words right now. You seem to have bought into the BS hook, line and sinker. Even the part about the SB building a new school if they voted to close CES!






From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member) [ETBradsher@fcps.edu]
To: Strauss, Jane (School Board Member)
CC:
BCC:
Sent: 6/11/2010 1:41:21 PM
Subject: Re: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study

Attachments:


I think Cub Run?

________________________________

From: Strauss, Jane (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Fri Jun 11 13:06:02 2010
Subject: FW: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study


Hi Liz,

What school is this person from?

Thanks,
Janie

________________________________

From: vwb3@aol.com [vwb3@aol.com]
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
CC:
BCC:
Sent: 6/11/2010 1:59:27 PM
Subject: Re: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study

Attachments:


Excellent.




-----Original Message-----
From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: 'vwb3@aol.com'
Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:18 am
Subject: FW: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study


A good one for a change, I made a few call this AM.
Liz

Elizabeth T. Bradsher
Fairfax County School Board
Springfield District
Phone: (571) 296-1875
Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant
Phone: (571) 423-1070





From: Kara Prichard [mailto:karanchris@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:06 AM
To: larsen family; Smith, Kathy L (School Board Member)
Cc: Raney, Jim (School Board Member); Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member); Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member); Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member); Strauss, Jane (School Board Member); Storck, Dan (School Board Member); Reed, Patty (School Board Member); Hone, Tina (School Board Member); Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member); Evans, Sandy (School Board Member); Center, Brad (School Board Member); Melody Rudy; Jean Naka; Robert F COL MIL USA VCSA Larsen
Subject: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study


School Board Members,

I know you are hearing quite a bit about how important it is to keep Clifton open - and I get it. However, the SW Boundary Study Committee was formed to look at the overcrowding in many schools and at the Clifton issue. Not, how can Clifton be saved, no matter how hard some worked to change it. I was there and I saw and I heard and I was appalled. The committee was formed to become a model for bringing the community into the process and if the entire group's work is not heeded, the whole process is a waste of time. There were many parents who were on that committee to work hard and help make good suggestions for the whole county and not just to support one small school. We worked hard to present alternative solutions that will fill many needs and I don't want to see them ignored. I am not condemning the value parents feel they are receiving at Clifton, I just feel that it is too much money for a school that will only deliver results for a small group.

I am certain you are under tremendous political pressure to only consider the historical significance of this school. However, you are our elected officials and we are all rooting for you to make the best choices for all of our students. With jobs and homes being lost, it seems incomprehensible to consider the amount of money needed to bring Clifton to standards. That will take SO many resources from SO many children to give to a few. It is time for the old school to close and build a new school that can give MANY children the education they need in an environment that is not overcrowded or dilapidated.

A wealthy few cannot be allowed to take from the rest of this county. Any new taxes or bond referendums should only be considered when they can do the most good for the most. Please do not give in and take from my children to give to a few.

Thank you,
Kara

Kara Prichard
CRES PTA President
Creative Memories Consultant
www.creativememories.com/karaprichard
CM Photocenter ID: 49336278
703-830-0799


"For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism." Anonymous

Kara: How stupid can you be? FCPS is NOT going to build a new school. All the schools now in SC are going to be overcrowded when Clifton closes. And I love how you throw the word "wealthy" around. Why throw others under the bus. I guess I should do the same.

Ps hmmm... I guess your scrap book crap is not selling well.

Where does Bob Larsen's wife teach???

Time to close her school.

He says, "please contact me"......anyone?



FCPS School Board,

1-We are praying that you will do what is right for the the whole county
tonight
2-I took an informal poll at our swim pool and great than 80% say close down
the Clifton ES
3-I know you believe the 300 club are the majority (less than 1% of the SW
area), but we elected you to this position to do what is right for all of us

I look forward to hearing the discussion

If you have any questions, please contact me at work or home

very respectfully

Bob Larsen, PhD
Member of FCPS system since 1996 and married to a school teacher

----- Original Message -----
From: "larsen family"
To: "Raney, Jim (School Board Member)" ; "Bradsher,
Elizabeth (School Board Member)" ; "Moon, Ilryong
(School Board Member)" ; "Wilson, Tessie (School Board
Member)" ; ;
; ; ;
; ; ;

Cc: "Kara Prichard" ; "Melody Rudy"
; "Jean Naka" ;

Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:15 AM
Subject: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply
involved in the study

> School Board members,
>
> Clifton children make up less than 1% of the FCPS SW population; a $20M
> investment in an old building for 300 children doesn't make sense. They
> ride the bus already--close down Clifton ES (or let Clifton buy it), and
> send the children to Sangster, Sliver brook and Liberty in 2011. Then
> spend the $s on places that help over crowding up north by adding a
> smaller Liberty building for 900 children/move 6th grade to several HS,
> and re draw a few boundary lines. This alternative will help the majority
> of our SW children out 5-15 years from now. We need smart logical
> affordable solutions for our children.
>
> I gave my time and effort to understand this issue since Sep 2009 to May
> 2010. I chaired group 1 (did we scope the issue right; right schools
> included) phase 1 and chaired group C phase 2 (close down Clifton what are
> the alternatives).
>
> I have done analysis for Department of Defense since 1992. I have a PhD
> in System Engineering. I have led a team that provided recommendations on
> the where to put our next tax payer $s (last job was the leader of a
> division that spent $65 billion dollars/year to buy Army Equipment and fix
> it).
>
> If you have questions of my statement please contact me
>
> very respectfully
>
> Bob Larsen,PhD
> Resident since 1996 in Fairfax County
> Father of a High School senior Lake Braddock, 9th grader and second
> grader; Married to a 6th grade school teacher;
> Served 4 years as Kings Park/Kings Glen PTA; one year County PTA;
> involved in South County Boundary Study and Chaired two sub groups for the
> Southwest Boundary/Clifton ES Ad Hoc Study Sep 2009-May 2010
>

It seems like all the letters that supported closing CES came from just a few that Liz Bradsher was personal friends with. Are there others besides Bob, Kara and Cassie (all of whom Liz personally recruited) that wrote letters in support of closing Clifton? Besides SOAR also since they were personally recruited by Liz as well.

Seems to me that while Kara is crying for the SB to not give to a few to spite the many, that's exactly what they were doing!

Since when does a PTA President at a neighboring school offer her/their? opinion on a school closure?

I recall St Gibson getting irate about an "endorsement" from a non-profit group.....where is that same outrage?

Does Kara represent this school's PTA or not?


School Board Members,


I know you are hearing quite a bit about how important it is to keep Clifton open - and I get it. However, the SW Boundary Study Committee was formed to look at the overcrowding in many schools and at the Clifton issue. Not, how can Clifton be saved, no matter how hard some worked to change it. I was there and I saw and I heard and I was appalled. The committee was formed to become a model for bringing the community into the process and if the entire group's work is not heeded, the whole process is a waste of time. There were many parents who were on that committee to work hard and help make good suggestions for the whole county and not just to support one small school. We worked hard to present alternative solutions that will fill many needs and I don't want to see them ignored. I am not condemning the value parents feel they are receiving at Clifton, I just feel that it is too much money for a school that will only deliver results for a small group.


I am certain you are under tremendous political pressure to only consider the historical significance of this school. However, you are our elected officials and we are all rooting for you to make the best choices for all of our students. With jobs and homes being lost, it seems incomprehensible to consider the amount of money needed to bring Clifton to standards. That will take SO many resources from SO many children to give to a few. It is time for the old school to close and build a new school that can give MANY children the education they need in an environment that is not overcrowded or dilapidated.


A wealthy few cannot be allowed to take from the rest of this county. Any new taxes or bond referendums should only be considered when they can do the most good for the most. Please do not give in and take from my children to give to a few.


Thank you,
Kara


Kara Prichard
CRES PTA President
Creative Memories Consultant
www.creativememories.com/karaprichard
CM Photocenter ID: 49336278
703-830-0799


"For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism." Anonymous

Time bubble?

Virginia = history
Jamestown, Liz??
Williamsburg?
Mt. Vernon?
Monticello?
Are they in a 'time bubble' too?

Sheesh.
Attachments:

A question about membership.

I don't understand how FCPS can predict the great changes in school membership from one year to the next. For example: Sangster currently shows a membership of 860. However, FCPS predicts that Sangster will have 783 next September without any moves. That just does not make sense. Am I missing something? That's a delta of 77 if I count right. Does something else factor in?

Cub Run currently has 476 and FCPS predicts 433 next Fall without changes. Eagle View currently has 937 and FCPS predicts 1023.....London Towne has 892 and FCPS projects 933.

I am using the numbers from the chart on Option D and the membership statistics from the school profile page. How does Eagle View go from 1013 in 2013 to 1214 in 2015? That's 200 kids! Is there that much construction going on? I can understand increase due to construction--but 200? And that still does not explain a 77 drop at Sangster.

On the eve of the vote.....

cc's are interesting-

Larsen, Naka, Eatmon, Baldwin, Burke, Rudy

She was "deeply involved" in the study btw, now we know where the incompetence came from.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Kara Prichard [mailto:karanchris@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:13 AM
To: Baldwin, Jim (James); Burke, Linda L.; larsen family
Cc: Storck, Dan (School Board Member); Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member); Smith, Kathy L (School Board Member); Center, Brad (School Board Member); Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member); Raney, Jim (School Board Member); Hone, Tina (School Board Member); Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member); Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member); Strauss, Jane (School Board Member); Jean Naka; Melody Rudy; Tom & Lisa Raisbeck; Eatmon, Cassandra; Robert F COL MIL USA VCSA Larsen; Reed, Patty (School Board Member); Evans, Sandy (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: SW Boundary Input for public meeting--someone who was deeply involved in the study-Follow up


FCPS School Board,


Tonight is the night you have the choice to do what is right for the county. Parents make the best choices at home for their children's education, however, it is up to you to create the environment that gives each student the best and equal opportunities. Continuing to maintain or even renovate Clifton will only serve a small group of students in a completely unique situation. We would all have our children in classrooms with low student/teacher ratios and with no obstacles to the best educational resources. However, that is not the reality in a county so large and diverse. We expect you to make the decisions that will do the most good with the resources that all of the county provides. It is completely unacceptable to expect the entire county to financially support a school that only serves 300 students when others are squeezed into classrooms and struggle to receive the resources they need.


Please do not let the emotional pleas of a few (some do not even allow their children to attend Clifton) sway you from making the right decision. You created the committee to validate all of the data and we did. You have reports from your staff and from that committee. Please do not cast those away and make waste of all the time and effort. Vote to close Clifton and use one or a combination of the possible solutions that were provided to you to make all of the SW community the best school area in Fairfax County.


Sincerely,
Kara


Kara Prichard
Centre Ridge Parent and past PTA President
SW Boundary Study Committee Member
County Voter and Taxpayer
703-830-0799


"For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism." Anonymous

Why is Gibson so nasty???


From: Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member) [mailto:sdgibson@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:40 PM
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Tina,

I have served on this Board for nearly 15 years, and have never heard of a "safety review." What are you referring to?

Stu
--------------------------
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Goddard, Pam; School Board Members
Cc: Tistadt, Dean; Moniuszko, Richard A..; School Board Office; Dale, Jack; Kirkbride, Sue; Donohue, Christine W.; Cornell, Lora L.
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:37:53 2010
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Colleagues, first, I continue to hope that Liz will be offering an amendment consistent with this one, which I will support.

If we do have to move forward with my amendment, please know that the spirit and intent of this revised language is the same as my prior version. The only significant changes are: 1) the date. I thought the next safety review was 2015. It is 2013. 2) There is no explicit language in this motion abt moving other projects up in the renovation queue. This remains the intent of the amendment and I will speak to this intent publicly on the record tomorrow night. However, according to kathy, there must be a separate vote on the renovation queue, which I am told is scheduled for september. If we vote to push off a decision on clifton until 2013, as a practical matter, it is removed from the renovation queue. We will be able to vote to change the renovation queue and take the money once allocated to clifton and direct it towards other projects. I certainly would have preferred explicit language codifying this in the motion. However, kathy has advised that such language would be out of order. Perhaps there is some additional clarification that can be made at the board table. I would welcome it.

Many thanks again for considering. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

See you tomorrow.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Goddard, Pam
To: School Board Members
Cc: Tistadt, Dean; Moniuszko, Richard A..; School Board Office; Dale, Jack; Kirkbride, Sue; Donohue, Christine W.; Cornell, Lora L.
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:03:32 2010
Subject: proposed amendment from Tina


Tina has asked me to send her proposed amendment to all of you—I will be posting it to the agenda item on BoardDocs this afternoon.



I move to postpone the Board’s consideration of closing and renovating Clifton Elementary School until no later than October 2013.



Pam
Pam Goddard
Executive Assistant and

Clerk of the School Board
571.423.1060

P Please consider the environment before printing this email

From: Tistadt, Dean [mailto:datistadt@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:50 PM
To: Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member); Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


The board did agree that the queue should be re-established every five years. There were a numbers of reasons for the decision to have a periodic review to include the absence of WSHS from the then existing queue but i do believe other schools were also absent.
--------------------------
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld




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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member)
Cc: Tistadt, Dean
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:45:58 2010
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


There is a peiodic review of the cip queue. To make sure crisis hasn't been missed. I believe we adopted it as a result of the west springfield high school oversights. Dean, perhaps you can clarify?



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From: Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:39:54 2010
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Tina,

I have served on this Board for nearly 15 years, and have never heard of a "safety review." What are you referring to?

Stu
--------------------------
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld

The day before the vote.....why did Moon cave?

Spineless?

No leadership at all.


From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member) [mailto:IMoon@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:52 PM
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Yes. (Unofficially until I first let Liz know when she calls me which I hope happens soon.)



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:47 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


You got it! Will you stick with me on clifton. I think I have 5 votes.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:27:13 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


OK. On the other issue, I talked with Dan and he was willing to make a nomination. I would be honored, if you could second.



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member) [mailto:mahone@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:48 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


He said he is going to talk to liz again abt coming thru to save the day. He is not comfortable with the split vote that we appear to be heading into. He also said he would find it hard to understand if liz suddenly changed her views and decided to push for closing clifton despite the split vote. Not sure what any of that means. Jim is slipping. Jack clled and left him a message, asking him to call dean. Dean then began dissuading jim, it appears. Seems odd that our employee would be affirmatively calling other board members to lobby to get them to support closing clifton. Especially when a member of the board has an amendment pending. Its one thing for him to share views. Another to lobby against my amendment. I'm going to raise this issue at retreat, I think.

Question:

Why does Tisdadt want to close Clifton? There are lots of dots missing. The emails are revealing, but the dots are not there. Liz clearly has political motivation. Kathy just wants to be reelected, I think. Stu is on a power trip. Why is Hone the only one with any common sense? Of course, that appears to be the missing dot in this whole process: common sense.

From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member) [mailto:IMoon@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Thanks.


Ilryong Moon
Fairfax County School Board
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Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld




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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 20:07:03 2010
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Just spoke with Jim. He is back on board



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 18:21:53 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Hmmm.... He was going to second your motion, but is now dead silent?



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:17 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Don't know. Radio silence.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 17:46:09 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Have you lost him?



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:42 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Are you with me even if we lose jim?



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:53:55 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


OK.



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:52 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


I have a call in to him.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:50:47 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Is Jim changing his vote, then?



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:48 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


He said he is going to talk to liz again abt coming thru to save the day. He is not comfortable with the split vote that we appear to be heading into. He also said he would find it hard to understand if liz suddenly changed her views and decided to push for closing clifton despite the split vote. Not sure what any of that means. Jim is slipping. Jack clled and left him a message, asking him to call dean. Dean then began dissuading jim, it appears. Seems odd that our employee would be affirmatively calling other board members to lobby to get them to support closing clifton. Especially when a member of the board has an amendment pending. Its one thing for him to share views. Another to lobby against my amendment. I'm going to raise this issue at retreat, I think.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:31:52 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Good luck!



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:31 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Yes. He was inclined to support but needed to talk to liz. On phone with brad right now.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:23:28 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


Have you talked to Dan?



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:47 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


You got it! Will you stick with me on clifton. I think I have 5 votes.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:27:13 2010
Subject: RE: proposed amendment from Tina


OK. On the other issue, I talked with Dan and he was willing to make a nomination. I would be honored, if you could second.



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:23 PM
To: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: proposed amendment from Tina


Yes. It is the year of the safety review.



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From: Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:08:05 2010
Subject: FW: proposed amendment from Tina


2013, was that what you wanted?



Sincerely,


Ilryong Moon
Member At Large
Fairfax County School Board
Joann V. Kinney, Executive Administrative Assistant
571.423.1065 (voice); 571.423.1067 (fax)

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From: Goddard, Pam
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:03 PM
To: School Board Members
Cc: Tistadt, Dean; Moniuszko, Richard A..; School Board Office; Dale, Jack; Kirkbride, Sue; Donohue, Christine W.; Cornell, Lora L.
Subject: proposed amendment from Tina


Tina has asked me to send her proposed amendment to all of you—I will be posting it to the agenda item on BoardDocs this afternoon.



I move to postpone the Board’s consideration of closing and renovating Clifton Elementary School until no later than October 2013.



Pam
Pam Goddard
Executive Assistant and

Clerk of the School Board
571.423.1060

P Please consider the environment before printing this email

number question Wrote:
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> A question about membership.
>
> I don't understand how FCPS can predict the great
> changes in school membership from one year to the
> next. For example: Sangster currently shows a
> membership of 860. However, FCPS predicts that
> Sangster will have 783 next September without any
> moves. That just does not make sense. Am I
> missing something? That's a delta of 77 if I
> count right. Does something else factor in?
>
> Cub Run currently has 476 and FCPS predicts 433
> next Fall without changes. Eagle View currently
> has 937 and FCPS predicts 1023.....London Towne
> has 892 and FCPS projects 933.
>
> I am using the numbers from the chart on Option D
> and the membership statistics from the school
> profile page. How does Eagle View go from 1013 in
> 2013 to 1214 in 2015? That's 200 kids! Is there
> that much construction going on? I can understand
> increase due to construction--but 200? And that
> still does not explain a 77 drop at Sangster.


That's odd... where are you getting the Sangster numbers from?

See views from CIP and dashboard below. Well, anyway, all the numbers come from Larry, the fairly confident demographer. Check out Sangster on the CIP - 2010 projection is 809 and they are at 855! wow, that's accuracy.
Attachments:

Oops - here is the CIP - it didn't make it into the post
Attachments:

questioner Wrote:
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> Question:
>
> Why does Tisdadt want to close Clifton? There are
> lots of dots missing. The emails are revealing,
> but the dots are not there. Liz clearly has
> political motivation. Kathy just wants to be
> reelected, I think. Stu is on a power trip. Why
> is Hone the only one with any common sense? Of
> course, that appears to be the missing dot in this
> whole process: common sense.


Likely just a very simple answer. It's easier to oversee a new build than a renovation.

He might also be thinking about his staff. Get multiple people working on multiple things and they aren't likely to reduce your staff. May even increase it! It would make common sense that was also part of the drive of the staff to close Clifton and either build a new school or do multiple additions. Of course, nobody is going to figure in that extra cost to the taxpayers now are they?

Sangster current membership number came from this link:


http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:107:2774952927675433::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:377

If you go to "schools and centers" on the FCPS site, you can find the membership link for each school. It is a tab on the "profile" page. It shows the up to date membership data.

to Number Question Wrote:
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> number question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A question about membership.
> >
> > I don't understand how FCPS can predict the
> great
> > changes in school membership from one year to
> the
> > next. For example: Sangster currently shows a
> > membership of 860. However, FCPS predicts that
> > Sangster will have 783 next September without
> any
> > moves. That just does not make sense. Am I
> > missing something? That's a delta of 77 if I
> > count right. Does something else factor in?
> >
> > Cub Run currently has 476 and FCPS predicts 433
> > next Fall without changes. Eagle View currently
> > has 937 and FCPS predicts 1023.....London Towne
> > has 892 and FCPS projects 933.
> >
> > I am using the numbers from the chart on Option
> D
> > and the membership statistics from the school
> > profile page. How does Eagle View go from 1013
> in
> > 2013 to 1214 in 2015? That's 200 kids! Is
> there
> > that much construction going on? I can
> understand
> > increase due to construction--but 200? And
> that
> > still does not explain a 77 drop at Sangster.
>
>
> That's odd... where are you getting the Sangster
> numbers from?
>
> See views from CIP and dashboard below. Well,
> anyway, all the numbers come from Larry, the
> fairly confident demographer. Check out Sangster
> on the CIP - 2010 projection is 809 and they are
> at 855! wow, that's accuracy.


Once Sangster is overcrowded from moving Clifton kids into Sangster than they can just move the GT kids out of Sangster and put them over in Silverbrook. Can you see where this is going?

number question answer Wrote:
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> Sangster current membership number came from this
> link:
>
>
> http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:10
> 7:2774952927675433::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:377
>
> If you go to "schools and centers" on the FCPS
> site, you can find the membership link for each
> school. It is a tab on the "profile" page. It
> shows the up to date membership data.

aha - thanks for the link. So dashboard is as of Sep. http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/10-11dashboard.html

Back to your original question... the declining enrollment predictions are indeed odd, but not suprising since FCPS will publish any number that happens to support their goal of the day. I suspect in this case the projected decline in Sangster is mean to assure that there is room for some of the Clifton kids (??).

any others? Wrote:
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> It seems like all the letters that supported
> closing CES came from just a few that Liz Bradsher
> was personal friends with. Are there others
> besides Bob, Kara and Cassie (all of whom Liz
> personally recruited) that wrote letters in
> support of closing Clifton? Besides SOAR also
> since they were personally recruited by Liz as
> well.
>
> Seems to me that while Kara is crying for the SB
> to not give to a few to spite the many, that's
> exactly what they were doing!


It doesn't look like there are any others. At least according to Liz.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)

To: 'larsen family'

Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:45 AM

Subject: RE: Save our school! We're not playing nice anymore.



It is not getting any better. You might want to read the email below that was sent out to Clifton residents from the mayor.



We have not heard from you subcommittee or others only Clifton. This distressed me because the issue doesn’t end with a report and your and other subcommittees expertise and knowledge would be of value to learn from in an email or testimony to the Board.



Liz



Elizabeth T. Bradsher

Fairfax County School Board

Springfield District

Phone: (571) 296-1875

Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant

Phone: (571) 423-1070

WOW - Did Peter Noonan forward EVERYTHING to Liz? Good grief.


From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: 'larsen family'
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Save our school! We're not playing nice anymore.

It is not getting any better. You might want to read the email below that was sent out to Clifton residents from the mayor.

YUCK.
Attachments:

Are you in or out? Wrote:
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:10 PM

> Moon: Thanks.
>


> Sent: Wed Jul 07 20:07:03 2010

Hone: Just spoke with Jim. He is back on board
>

> Sent: Wed Jul 07 18:21:53 2010

Moon: Hmmm.... He was going to second your motion, but
> is now dead silent?


> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:17 PM

Hone: Don't know. Radio silence.
>

> Sent: Wed Jul 07 17:46:09 2010

Moon: Have you lost him?
>

> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:42 PM
>
Hone: Are you with me even if we lose jim?
>

> Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:53:55 2010
>
> Moon: OK.


> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:52 PM

>
> Hone: I have a call in to him.
>
>
>
> Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:50:47 2010
>
> Moon:Is Jim changing his vote, then?
>

>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:48 PM
>
> Hone: He said he is going to talk to liz again abt
> coming thru to save the day. He is not comfortable
> with the split vote that we appear to be heading
> into. He also said he would find it hard to
> understand if liz suddenly changed her views and
> decided to push for closing clifton despite the
> split vote. Not sure what any of that means. Jim
> is slipping. Jack clled and left him a message,
> asking him to call dean. Dean then began
> dissuading jim, it appears. Seems odd that our
> employee would be affirmatively calling other
> board members to lobby to get them to support
> closing clifton. Especially when a member of the
> board has an amendment pending. Its one thing for
> him to share views. Another to lobby against my
> amendment. I'm going to raise this issue at
> retreat, I think.


> Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:31:52 2010


Moon: Good luck!


>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:31 PM

> Hone: Yes. He was inclined to support but needed to talk
> to liz. On phone with brad right now.



> Sent: Wed Jul 07 16:23:28 2010

>
>
> Moon: Have you talked to Dan?
>

> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:47 PM
>
> Hone: You got it! Will you stick with me on clifton. I
> think I have 5 votes.
>
> Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:27:13 2010
>
> Moon: OK. On the other issue, I talked with Dan and he
> was willing to make a nomination. I would be
> honored, if you could second.


> Sent: Wed Jul 07 15:08:05 2010

Moon: 2013, was that what you wanted?


So, The night before the vote, after MONTHS of studying the "facts" and thousands of hours and dollars spent on whether to close Clifton, this is what it boils down to....

Doubts among School Board members about whether to close the school.

We know the Evil Four are unreasonable and only doing what Bradsher tells them (Wilson, Strauss, Smith and Gibson). They ignore the water reports stating that it is a non-issue, they ignore the fact that this is a high-performing school and nobody closes a high performing school, they ignore the overcrowding in the area around Clifton. They are unreachable no matter what.

But what about Rainey, Moon, Storck and Center?

Where is their moral compass?

The night before the vote Storck had serious doubts, as did Rainey and Moon. Center is a follower and would have voted with them

Folks, this is government at its worst before us. On display for all to see. People not making decisions based on facts.

Talk about reasonable doubt? How would you like these marshmellows on a jury deciding whether to sentence someone to die?

We don't need these bad apples running our schools.

This decision was so easy, so logical, the only thing to do was to delay the decision and wait to see what the enrollment numbers look like.

There was no harm in keeping this school open.

Screw the Bob Larsens and Cassie Eatmons of the world. You people are haters and self-serving jerks. Stay out of a matter that doesn't concern you. If you have political ambitions, you better put that matter to bed. NOBODY would want you leading anything. You are toxic and your lies and back-stabbing efforts are noted by all.

The time has come to right the wrong and keep this school open. Bradsher is toast anyways politically-she is done. She doesn't matter anymore.

Let's do the right thing here.

Dean Tistadt and his herd of staff members had months to make the case to close Clifton.

If a School Board member is on the fence the night before the vote, then clearly he didn't do a great job in laying out the justification for closure.

For Tistadt to LIE to Rainey about the impact this all has on a "sacred CIP" and how it will upset the Board of Supervisors is just too much to stomach.

Let's ask the BOS.

Do you guys give a holy crap if the school board votes to delay a renovation on a school?

Answer: OF COURSE NOT!!!!

It actually demonstrates fiscal responsibility- a quality usually NOT demonstrated by this school board.

Shame on Tistadt and double shame on Rainey for being a sucker.

Questions:

Is there some group who has shown interest in purchasing Clifton site? Is there something we don't know--a moneymaking scheme or something? There is a huge dot missing in this whole thing. What is it? There has got to be a reason that they are so anxious to close Clifton.

I have nothing to do with Clifton. Looking at it objectively, it makes no sense. I understand that others were pushing for their own schools and Liz was encouraging them. But, why are the others so anxious to close Clifton? Surely, it is not just power.

----- Original Message -----
From: Raney, Jim (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 13:11:18 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

I got msg from jack and talked with dean at length and am now less interested in delaying closure decision for 5 years because of precedent of altering cip queue and political support from bos for cip but would still second amendment and maybe not vote for it so am now leaning toward closure
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Sent using BlackBerry

why Wrote:
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>
> I have nothing to do with Clifton. Looking at it
> objectively, it makes no sense. I understand that
> others were pushing for their own schools and Liz
> was encouraging them. But, why are the others so
> anxious to close Clifton? Surely, it is not just
> power.

First, you support Clifton here, so you obviously have something to do with the town. Interesting paradox, yes?

Second, CES is being closed because it's old, the water is bad, the repair $$$ needed to make it safe are a waste, and it's tough to even get to from a construction egress perspective.

Meaning money better spent on larger SOCO schools, which is making a lot of parents happy and will lead to Liz's reelection despite the Clifton complaints.

The truth is out there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member) [mailto:mahone@fcps.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:23 AM
To: Reed, Patty (School Board Member)
Subject: Fw: Amendment

I'm trying ... Hard ...this is gonna be a photo finish sister.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 08:22:23 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

Don't lock yourself in a box. I see you struggle and agonize over equity and I admire you for it. But fairness and equity are not the same. Life isn't neat. You know that. You are not helping clifton and perpetuating an inequity (which I think is what is tormenting you on this decision). This is about the 1300 kids and more outside of clifton. That is the real crisis. Closing clifton does not meaningfully contribute to fixing that challenge. And keeping it open - without spending taxpayer dollars on renovations - does not hurt those 1300 kids. We can fix the overcrowding without hurting clifton or wasting taxpayer money. It is the win win win.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 07:25:58 2010
Subject: RE: Amendment

Yes, WSHS and others which serve thousands of students. I also spoke to Jim last night too. Not too worried about him. Thanks though.

Elizabeth T. Bradsher
Fairfax County School Board
Springfield District
Phone: (571) 296-1875
Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant
Phone: (571) 423-1070



-----Original Message-----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:25 AM
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: Amendment

Jim said he would support the amendment as I framed it. Are you trying to pull west springfield up the queue? I support that but suspect that will cost you some votes. My rationale is that with these low construction costs, the responsible thing for us to do is to find the biggest renovation projects (high schools!) And put them first. Greater long term savings.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 07:16:09 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

Not sure about 2 of those--working on that.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 07:13:04 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

Not always just abt the votes. Although as I count them, you have them. You can carry this.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 07:10:42 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

True--thinking votes though--all about those votes!

----- Original Message -----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 06:55:13 2010
Subject: Re: Amendment

Just one quick response: it is one thing for us to take a school off the CIP without its consent bcse we (the board or staff)decided to do so, hence disappointing the community that has been waiting. It is quite another to take it off bcse the community requests it and allows others to move in front of it in line.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jul 07 06:31:59 2010
Subject: RE: Amendment

Tina,
I have the correct language for this--my hold up is the CIP part because I am being told we can't introduce the CIP at this time. It has to wait till CIP time and if this is the case I have no assurances such a motion will past at that time because the BOARD HAS NEVER taken a school off the CIP during CIP deliberations. It would set a bad precedent and some would argue if you did this for one school why not another, etc. I would argue special circumstance, etc.---it would be another up hill battle. The CIP is held holy or something...

This is crucial for me and perhaps others. Taking CES off the CIP means others move up to a new bonding period. I am checking on this particular issue. Those votes to close CES are the same to NOT take them off the CIP if CES is to remain open. A very tight vote, no assurances.

Hence my "Sophie's Choice" as some would say. Do I support several hundred or several thousand students? I have a call into Dan and others as I work this out. Just keeping you in the loop--I was on the phone all last night on this.
Liz

Elizabeth T. Bradsher
Fairfax County School Board
Springfield District
Phone: (571) 296-1875
Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant
Phone: (571) 423-1070



-----Original Message-----
From: Hone, Tina (School Board Member)
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:26 PM
To: School Board Members
Cc: Goddard, Pam; Dale, Jack; Tistadt, Dean
Subject: Amendment

Colleagues:

I am submitting this amendment primarily as a placeholder. I have discussed this with Liz. I know that she has been working to frame something and I would certainly defer to her amendment if it is consistent with the intent of this one. I'm hoping we can avoid a long drawn out email dialogue here. I will reach out to folks if necessary. But again, I'm hopeful Liz pulls a compromise together that we can all support.
______

" I move to defer consideration of clifton renovations or closure until 2015 and, to the extent permissible by law, accelerate other projects in the CIP queue."

I may have the date wrong. But I believe 2015 is the next time clifton would come up for a "safety" review. I also don't know the legalities of moving projects up in the queue.

Thanks much. Tina



Are you telling me that Fairfax County has NEVER changed the schedule of renovations? Never, not once??

Kind of funny how when Miss Fiscal responsible Republican wanted her MIDDLE SCHOOL in SOCO she didn't give a CRAP about the sanctity of the CIP.

Let me enlighten you guys. SOCO MS is on the 2009 bond referendum. We haven't borrowed any money against that bond year yet. We are still on the 2007 bond money.

So how is that school being built now-well ahead of this so--called sacred schedule??

Huhhhhh......well, very simple. SOCO MS RAIDED funds designated toward 2007 projects and jumped ahead of the line.

So much for her preaching to everyone about Clifton.

I need to get my boots on if I am going to walk thru this stuff.

Interesting.....Tistadt sits on the water test results for FIVE HOURS until after the meeting is started.

I bet he forwarded this email to certain "club members" soliciting advice on what to do with it.

It would make an interesting FOIA.



From: Tistadt, Dean
To: School Board Members
Cc: Dale, Jack; Moniuszko, Richard A..; James, Denise; Sneed, Kevin; Ellis, Fred (Safety & Security)
Sent: Thu Jul 08 19:12:34 2010
Subject: FW: Clifton well results to date


Dear Board Members,

While we must wait for the final test results for radium 228, expected next week, it does appear that the action taken on this well has solved the contamination problems albeit at the expense of reducing its volume. This fix was inexpensive so if the decision is made to keep the school open, it will not be necessary to expend $300,000 to solve this problem or to incur additional annual operating expenses (which were the previous solution estimates).

I do note that this potential expense was not included in the renovation cost estimate. If we renovate Clifton, it will still be necessary to expend monies to construct a water storage and pump system to support the sprinkler system. Those costs were included in the renovation cost estimate.

My thanks to Doug O’Neill for his expertise and all the work done by the Office of Facilities Management to expedite this work.

Dean


_____________________________________________
From: Ellis, Fred (Safety & Security)
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:31 PM
To: O'Neill, Doug
Cc: Mutscheller, William; Tistadt, Dean; Sneed, Kevin; James, Denise; Vollmer, Steve
Subject: RE: Clifton well results to date


Doug,

Tks for the thorough explanation of the preliminary results of the analysis of the Clifton ES well water. I continue to appreciate your expertise and suggestions, which have proven to be very helpful and accurate.

Dean, et.al., Doug has advised that we won’t get the one radium (228) result back until next week, but he doesn’t anticipate it to be problematic.

Fred Ellis

-----Original Message-----
From: The Murphys [mailto:theva.murphys@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:42 PM
To: Storck, Dan (School Board Member); Moon, Ilryong (School Board Member); Smith, Kathy L (School Board Member); Center, Brad (School Board Member); Gibson, Stuart (School Board Member); Raney, Jim (School Board Member); Hone, Tina (School Board Member); Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member); Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member); Strauss, Jane (School Board Member); Reed, Patty (School Board Member); Evans, Sandy (School Board Member)
Subject: FW: SW Boundary Input for public meeting end of Jun 2010--I was deeply involved in the study-close down Clifton ES and place the $20M in investments that will help over crowding 5-10 years from now
Importance: High

Dear School Board Members,

Please give Robert Larsen's report due consideration and support His proposal. We believe in his analysis, and support his conclusions.
During these lean times when all of us are having to make hard adjustments, Spending $20 million on 300 children is beyond excessive - it is simply Ludicrous and defies logic.

Thank you,
Patty & Howard Murphy
5303 Amber Court
Burke, VA 22015

From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
To: School Board Members
Cc: Goddard, Pam; Cain, Debora L.
Sent: Fri Jul 09 18:31:51 2010
Subject: FW: Thank you for your service


Dear Colleagues,

I want to thank you all not so much for your vote last night but for your support during this difficult time for me. The vote of course was nice too. J My head has been spinning all day and I admit I am a bit tired. I am sure many of you have received emails about what took place last night. As you would suspect I have gotten some most interesting correspondence too! Surprisingly, half of what I have received or more has been positive. I am forwarding to you an email that was sent today to me. I do not know who these constituents are, I can see by the schools their children attend they live near me but I do not know them. I thought the email was poignant as Captain Docherty and his wife listened to what was said and they are “the silence.â€



I hope everyone has a good week. I did buy some new deodorant today---I know TMI!!!



Liz B.

PS I believe, for what it is worth, we did the right thing as a Board. I am strong with such belief and I know all our students will benefit from our effort last night and continued efforts in the future.



Elizabeth T. Bradsher

Fairfax County School Board

Springfield District

Phone: (571) 296-1875

Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant

Phone: (571) 423-1070

It's interesting to me that Graham Road parents (very different demographic than Clifton) did not want a new school. They wanted the school to stay in its current location. It currently has 455 students. It is a rarity--a somewhat successful, low income school. The parents wanted for it to remain a community school in their own community.

FCPS insisted on building a new school in a different location.

Clifton community also wanted to keep a community school. FCPS insists on closing it and spreading around the students. This action requires building new additions in several places.

Bradsher gets her new, unnecessary, middle school with little protest from the board.

Is FCPS run by educators or contractors?

Why can't Moon make a decision on his own?

He seems obsessed with how Storck and Rainey were voting.

This guy has been on the SB a long time. Who knew he was such a wimp.

Bob Larsen lobbied hard to the FCSB to close Clifton. In his letters to school board members he refers to Clifton Elem as the "300 club", as in, don't spend money on the elite "300 club", referring to what he thinks as the number of students at Clifton. Actually, there are around 370 kids at Clifton, and now 76 of them will be transferred over to Sangster, his kid's school. Way to go, Bob, you lobbied for the additional 76 kids to overcrowd your own school! Sangster parents must love you, soon Sangster will be pushing 900 students.

Karma defined: action, seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation

Bob, you misrepresent the number of students at Clifton Elem., calling it the "300 club", now almost the exact number over 300 are coming to overcrowd your school!

Karma, my friends...

bwahahaack is back Wrote:
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> Second, CES is being closed because it's old, the
> water is bad, the repair $$$ needed to make it
> safe are a waste, and it's tough to even get to
> from a construction egress perspective.
>
> Meaning money better spent on larger SOCO schools,
> which is making a lot of parents happy and will
> lead to Liz's reelection despite the Clifton
> complaints.
>
> The truth is out there.

You are one of three things:

1. You are Liz Bradshaw posting here once again as someone else
2. A Bradshaw flunky who posts here at her command
3. A parent/PTA official from one of the ghetto schools in SC

If you were at VA Run when this came up, you would have seen that the more affluent from all over SC are against this. The already overcrowded 2nd world schools like BRES and Centre Ridge or LondonTown are the only one's who gain from this decision. And most of the parents in those schools don't vote. It is the parents from schools like VRES, Centreville and Clifton that vote. Bradshaw is toast. We have to vote all these corrupt technocrats out of office and then replace Dale with someone who knows that unlimited money isn't the only answer to fixing things. As long as PWC keeps driving their illegal aliens over to Western FFX, we're going to have a problem. Closing high performing schools to spread out the problem of all these ESL kids is the wrong answer.

ps Bob Larsen really does pee his pants. Sad really.

Thursday, June 26, 2008

Fairfax County School Board Votes To Build South County Middle School

The Fairfax County School Board has voted to move forward on the proposed South County Middle School project and has directed Superintendent Jack D. Dale to investigate the possibility of exchanging the currently designated property for other county or Fairfax County Park Authority property directly adjacent to the current South County Secondary School site for construction of the new middle school. Building the middle school adjacent to the current South County Secondary School would enable both schools to share the same athletic fields and, ultimately, reduce the cost of the new school.

The School Board also accepted $5 million for FY 2009 and $5 million for FY 2010 from the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, approved for the purpose of building a middle school in the South County area.


Those funds will be added to $2 million previously allocated by the School Board.

The Superintendent was also directed to investigate sources of additional new funding or financing, which could include bridge financing or public-private partnerships, to cover the cost of the new school.


Dan Storck, School Board chairman and Mount Vernon District representative, thanked Board and community members for their support and said, “I am very pleased that the Board has approved the building of the long-sought-after middle school in the South County community. Since South County is one of the fastest growing areas of Fairfax County and BRAC (the Defense Department’s Base Realignment and Closure Commission) is expected to bring many more students to this area, this school will make a real difference in meeting the educational needs of this community and its students.â€

The School Board motion specified that operating funds would not be used to pay interest on future bond funding. Construction of the new middle school is to be included in the FY 2010-14 capital improvement program (CIP), which will be presented to the Board in December.

The School Board intends that the new school be built by 2012.

South County Secondary School, which was originally built to serve as a high school with a capacity of 2,500 students, has been operating as a secondary school with 2,900 students enrolled in grades 7-12 during the 2007-08 school year. The school is currently operating on a nine-period day in order to accommodate the extra students. Other solutions the School Board considered to help alleviate crowding at South County include changing boundaries, relocating programs to nearby schools, and building an addition to the existing school.

###

Note: For more information, contact the Fairfax County Public Schools Department of Communications and Community Outreach at 571-423-1200.


Remember Bradsher's lies about the CIP?

This says that the school will be on the 2014-15 CIP but be built by 2012???

Oh and that public-private funding-try a VERY PUBLIC funding of $50 million per the 2009 bond referendum.

Lies, lies and more lies.

bob larsen pees his pants Wrote:
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>
> If you were at VA Run when this came up, you would
> have seen that the more affluent from all over SC
> are against this. The already overcrowded 2nd
> world schools like BRES and Centre Ridge or
> LondonTown are the only one's who gain from this
> decision. And most of the parents in those
> schools don't vote.

So, you prove our point that this really is an elitist issue and Clifton ES SHOULD be closed.

Bradsher is a shoo-in for re-election. You (and the emails here) basically confirm that she and the FCPS board did the right thing despite what they knew would be push-back from the affluent in her district. Facing adversity from elitists who wield the most influence with the BoS (Herrity et al), they still chose the hard right over the easy wrong.

We'll vote, trust me on that.

My sense is that Bradsher is toxic now and has no political future.

She could run again and, if she were re-elected, Springfield District voters would at least know this time what they were getting: an unprincipled political operative who is a ready to put the interests of her South County cronies over the rest of those in her district, not to mention the county.

It would be nice to think you could find someone who could do better.

bwahahaack is back Wrote:
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> We'll vote, trust me on that.


Like your lying idol Bradsher, I won't trust you on anything. White trash, illegals and the retarded never vote. It's the elite that vote these pinkos into office. Bradsher has pissed them off. I don't vote for these commies anyway. But now she and her ilk have lost her white-guilt liberal elite base. Good riddence to bad trash.

You are right on the money! Thank you.

Finishing my survey - submitted it - and - sorry, you are not a winner, please (don't) try again.
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is this really someone we want running our schools????

And regarding the survey above - WTH?!?! It was supposed to be open until 5pm!!!

From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member) [ETBradsher@fcps.edu]
To: Cain, Debora L.
CC:
BCC:
Sent: 4/16/2010 8:22:41 AM
Subject: Re: Voicemail message

Attachments:


I saw him last night, will call you after my morning vodka! :)

________________________________

From: Cain, Debora L.
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Cc: Cain, Debora L.
Sent: Fri Apr 16 08:15:11 2010
Subject: Voicemail message



Good morning, Liz:



Rob Jones has left me a message asking for a meeting with you. His message was as follows:



“I would like to reconnect with Liz from a scheduling standpoint; sent her an email and also very briefly spoke with her on Tuesday night, but would like to get some time to sit down and have a dedicated discussion with her for about an hour regarding the Clifton topic. Please contact me and let me know when some time might be available.â€



How should I respond to Rob? Thanks, Liz.



________________________________________

Deb Cain

Executive Administrative Assistant to:

Elizabeth (Liz) T. Bradsher, Springfield District

Jim Raney, Member At Large

Patricia (Patty) S. Reed, Providence District

Fairfax County School Board Office

571.423.1070 (phone)

571.423.1067 (fax)

Is there anyone with basic decency left?
Attachments:

Watching and reading the posts, I grow increasingly frustrated - who can tell the school boad that this is beyond absurd or crazy? Can they just say mea culpa and move on to saying they goofed?
Attachments:

After all of these "leaks" of e-mails that Ms. Bradsher still has a job. She sounds like a complete and total witch - not to mention incompetent and unprofessional, too.

She should have been canned many months ago. Or, since her position is an elected one (I'm assuming), then she should have resigned or been encouraged to resign.

I wish Liz Bradsher would resign. It will never happen since she thinks she knows what is best for the kids in SC. If you read the emails it sounds like she needs to go AA.

FCPS looks so bad right now. I hate what they doing to all of us. What can we do to stop these clowns?

reader Wrote:
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> more Cassie:
> Southwestern Committee members urged the Annandale
> Committee to remember that the process involves
> everyone.
> "It has to be a big-picture process," said Cassie
> Eatmon of Virginia Run Elementary School in
> Centreville. "It can't be about just looking out
> for your own school. Leave your school at the
> door." Of course, Option D does leave Virginia Run
> untouched in the Southwest redistricting. So much
> for "leaving your school at the door." Or did
> Kathy cave to other political friends?

So this is the woman
Who is both an FCPS employee and PTA president.
Who advocated against the Clifton community for the planning study.
Who testified against Clifton at the public hearing.
Who did personal business (some kind of parties) for Liz's friends.
Who FCPS picked to advise the Annadale study.
Who the School Board picked to be on the facilities planning committee.
Who now got her own school to be untouched in the entire boundary process.

what was that Liz said = she doesn't play these games when the children are involved?
right.

It's appalling that Liz Bradsher considers herself an advocate for education when she makes so many repugnant comments and political maneuvers. The comment about the student-built house was in very poor taste.

Vulgar-Liz Bradsher.

Liz's Groupie Wrote:
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> reader Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > more Cassie:
> > Southwestern Committee members urged the
> Annandale
> > Committee to remember that the process involves
> > everyone.
> > "It has to be a big-picture process," said
> Cassie
> > Eatmon of Virginia Run Elementary School in
> > Centreville. "It can't be about just looking
> out
> > for your own school. Leave your school at the
> > door." Of course, Option D does leave Virginia
> Run
> > untouched in the Southwest redistricting. So
> much
> > for "leaving your school at the door." Or did
> > Kathy cave to other political friends?
>
> So this is the woman
> Who is both an FCPS employee and PTA president.
> Who advocated against the Clifton community for
> the planning study.
> Who testified against Clifton at the public
> hearing.
> Who did personal business (some kind of parties)
> for Liz's friends.
> Who FCPS picked to advise the Annadale study.
> Who the School Board picked to be on the
> facilities planning committee.
> Who now got her own school to be untouched in the
> entire boundary process.
>
> what was that Liz said = she doesn't play these
> games when the children are involved?
> right.

Both Liz Bradsher and her cronies know what they've been up to is wrong. That's probably why they lie - and, apparently, drink - so much. They want to cover up their tracks one way or the other.

They were told a long time ago how to simply, cheaply and reliably fix any water problem.

So not doing this was deliberate.

They ***intentionally*** did not do the easy, affordable and established recommendation from the VA Dept of Health.
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So, way back in June Liz is trying to ensure enough votes to close CES, all the while lying to Clifton, and WSHS. 'this is such a difficult decision'. Yeah right, Liz. Do everyone a favor, resign now. You are an embarrasment.


From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member) [ETBradsher@fcps.edu]
To: Tistadt, Dean
CC:
BCC:
Sent: 6/16/2010 3:47:02 PM
Subject: Re: SOAR Leadership - WSHS

Attachments:


Yes, after speaking with you I saw the message/email was dated. Patty will vote to close; #7. But she may not be here for vote. She understands what it now means to Oakton for timing.

I told her implications to CIP funding will be articulated.
Liz

________________________________

From: Tistadt, Dean
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Wed Jun 16 15:05:46 2010
Subject: RE: SOAR Leadership - WSHS



I am glad you are reaching out. I think you need to be careful with your message to ensure you now disconnect the Clifton decision from a new school on the Liberty site decision. You have continued the connection in your message (last paragraph).

Dean



From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:51 PM
To: Tistadt, Dean
Subject: FW: SOAR Leadership - WSHS



This is what I sent last night. They get it now and word is spreading.

I like the clean approach of dealing with just Clifton at this moment.



Liz

Elizabeth T. Bradsher
Fairfax County School Board
Springfield District
Phone: (571) 296-1875
Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant
Phone: (571) 423-1070


________________________________

From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:49 PM
To: Wardinski, Paul A.; 'Hawkins, Erik'; Leslie Carlin; Erik & Mary Hawkins; Christine Morin; Lorey Goerlinger; Lynn Smith; Monique Craft; Nancy Knickerbocker; Paul Liberty; Rob Robertory; Chadwell, Laura G
Cc: Christian Deschauer; Cain, Debora L.
Subject: RE: SOAR Leadership - WSHS



Dear SOAR Members,


I have been working on an issue which some of you may be aware of and that is the Clifton Elementary School issue. It is a difficult and an emotional issue for both Clifton residents and admittedly me. The following is an example of an email I just sent to a Clifton resident, I believe you should be made aware of what I am saying in my correspondence to Clifton residents, please refer to the highlighted areas:



Dear Sarah,

I appreciate your email and understand what your elementary school means to your community.

Many times we all want the good things we had for our children. Most parents try to give their children such things and many try to improve on the past if at all possible. The Clifton issue is a complex issue. The school needs a renovation. It needs a new roof and HVAC system, it does not have enough space for parking, only one out of three wells work and the one that does work does so sporadically, it does not meet current educational specifications, it does not meet county code for a fire suppression system, the site presents constraints for renovation, etc. One of the real issues for me, since you stated “NO ONE has been able to give us a credible explanation†is that the renovation for this school exceeds the cost of building a new school and for that reason I am concerned.

To date I have many needs in the Springfield District which require capital dollars; it is most difficult for me to reason spending scarce capital funds to renovate a school projected to have less than 300 students in 3-4 years. Schools wait for years to be renovated. One in particular, West Springfield High School, was admittedly left off the renovation schedule by our system in error. This school will be over capacity by several hundred students in 3-4 years and is over capacity now. The school is used 24-7 for county uses and for school uses, it is in great need of renovation.

I cannot commit to an answer at this time regarding Clifton because I am listening to all the communities impacted by this decision, that includes the West Springfield High School community, Greenbriar East and West, Sangster, Silverbrook, Union Mill, Willow Springs, etc. All of these communities will be impacted because this is not just a decision about Clifton students it is all an issue about capital dollars and need.



I grew up in this county and we may agree to differ on this but I would not want my child in the same classroom I had as a child. Classrooms today offer so much more to children. I understand if you do not agree with this, however the question I am dealing with is do I spend money to renovate a school that is declining in population with an impending renovation that exceeds the cost of a new school or do I offer a brand new school for residents that meets all educational specifications to a great number of Clifton students, resolves capacity needs and saves money for other district capital needs? My decision is difficult because I know the Clifton community has strong emotional ties to attend Clifton, even if it remains the same without a renovation.



Sincerely,

Liz Bradsher



This vote will take place on July 8. I realize the WSHS Community has worked positively and professionally for the past 2.5 years on the behalf of the community to get WSHS renovated. Your issue is one of dire need, at least in my mind. Currently your bonding begins in 2013, if we decided to close Clifton your bonding could be moved to 2011. I wanted you all to know what this vote means and the issues that surround it. If we renovate Clifton and add additions to existing schools it will cost more than a new building and minor additions to existing schools to resolve over capacity situations. If we do nothing to Clifton we will still be spending excess dollars due to the need for many elementary additions needed along the Rt. 29 corridor and elsewhere.



Clifton is lovely community with passionate parents. They too have a school need and I know you do too as well.

Liz Bradsher



Elizabeth T. Bradsher

Fairfax County School Board

Springfield District

Phone: (571) 296-1875

Debora L. Cain, Executive Administrative Assistant

Phone: (571) 423-1070

Reading these, can't believe any decency remains in FCPS, top down - even those of us not directly affected by the boundary changes or school closure.

Managing negative PR starting last summer was the concern of Dale, Bradsher and Noonan? Is FCPS a PR firm or are they educators?

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I think that the school board is telling the teachers this so that they don't leave and take new jobs, while the board is really doing all it can to shutter the school. The school board and facilities office have lost all credibility, why believe anything they say?

Sorry, last post was in response to a previous entry:

Teachers at Clifton were told the school MAY remain open for one more year till they figure out where all the Clifton kids are going to go. What a hot mess for everyone.

How can we get the South county bitch (Liz B.) to resign? Or at least help herself and go to AA.

Look, Tistadt is the epicenter of this crisis.

Why does he want Clifton closed?

We know that all of the reasons he gave during the study and deliberations are all bunk. So what is the REAL reason?

Do we have all of his emails to people about Clifton? Outsiders inquiring about the property? Charter schools? VRE?

Let's go folks-what are you waiting for?

I did hear something about a VRE lot where the school site is but the Clifton train station does not have room for a platform. It would be sad if this was over money for a paid commuter lot. FCPC are so fucked right now you cannot get an honest answer from anyone.

Which Liz do you believe? July 2009 or July 2010?
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Who can go over her on the SB so we can get her fired for being so stupid? These emails should be sent to someone who is in charge. Maybe the state education department?

The issue has been decided. The school (Clifton Elementary) is going to be closed by FCPS. Get over it! Life isn't fair and sometimes it is hard to swallow. A public education is just that, a PUBLIC education. If you find such fault with the public school system, send your children to private school (if you have any children). If you don't have any children and just enjoy ranting about the system, go away! You help no one! There is absolutely NO reason to continue with the whining, name calling, and finger pointing! Look to the future and determine what can be done with the site (charter school, adult ed center, etc). Continuing the hate does no one any good, particularly those in Clifton who seek to persuade and/or change opinions.

@ Get over it:

That's what Pelosi and the President thought with Healthcare.


Unfortunately, the school board has no constitution that binds it, so they can cut as many dirty deals as they can pack into their tenure.

We shall see how many of them are re-elected, and their follow on actions. The choices that they have laid out in their study are at times almost ad-hoc in their method. They are worth protesting as they are impacting the whole of the SW portion of the county.

Of course we could roll over as you suggest, but if Virginians had taken your attitude through history, we'd still be singing "God Save The Queen"

CHeers,

@ Get Over It

Then let me keep my tax money that goes to the PUBLIC schools or provide me with a voucher so I can send my kid to whatever school I want. Once you start arbitrarily closing schools for political gain, you have wrecked the neighborhood school concept and can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. Since you are obviously a commie liberal, you want to dumb all our kids down to the ESL factories like BRES and Centre Ridge. No thanks comrade. Now get your lips off Liz's pimply behind and go buy some more Kwanzaa candles.

Nice thoughts all.

Just remember that it is human nature that you get more bees with honey than you do vinegar. So nice ofr everyone to udnerstand this basic concept in human nature!

Try and find a solution which provides an adequate use for the facility and get over the fact that the school is closing!

By the way, I am not at all against issuing vouchers for those that want to send their children to private school. Go ahead. The less of you that are in the public school system the better for the whole system since it appears most who vent here obviously have no interest in looking out for the good of the whole but only desire to maintain what most self serves them.

I would love for the SB to use the "bees with honey" to all the parents and kids getting screwed over. And I am not just talking about the kids at Clifton or those that have money. I mean all of south county.

PS So those that work hard and have money should all send their kids to private school? Go fuck yourself.

Riddle me this.....because Clifton Elementary will close at the end of this school year based on the latest "plan" from FCPS, the 3 surrounding schools should "take one for the team" by now allowing their facilities to be overcrowded and move their children to "temporary" classrooms (AKA trailers).

@ Get over it, logically does it make sense to you to move children from functioning brick and mortar facilities to aluminum on wheels? How about we shutter your home and put you in an aluminum hut without water and minimal heat for a few months and see how that works out. Perhaps now you understand the perspective of many parents from Fairview, Union Mill, Sangster and Clifton (note it's not just Clifton).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2010 03:41PM by Justataxpayer.

Those aluminum huts without water and separate heat are real fun on a windy day like today. Lots of education happens. They are also real secure (I don't even have to talk about what that means).

Liz is not just nasty to parents, she's rude to other board members too! I really don't know how they tolerate her. Thank goodness Tessie is leaving too.


From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:43 PM
To: Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: Falls Church News Press article on sports fees



I will send you some of the scuttle butt going on. Clifton and those who don't want a school at the Liberty sight are being difficult and I think Andrew may be giving this group too much latitude.

Will send it. BTW I lost a crown on my tooth and need to be at the dentist early AM Monday can you begin the CPDC meeting and discussion? I will call Deb and Denise too. If you can't don't worry about it I can work it out and leave afterwards.
Liz



________________________________

From: Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Sat May 08 17:38:24 2010
Subject: RE: Falls Church News Press article on sports fees

Good for you! And you are right – that is what we need to remember – and we need to remember that if we spend all or even some of the reserve for this budget – we may have to go a third year with no raises!



Any final work from Andrew and Kelley? I see they sent another DRAFT of the power point? Any word on the report?



Tessie Wilson
Vice Chairman
School Board Member
Braddock District
________________________________

From: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member)
Subject: Re: Falls Church News Press article on sports fees



Thanks. I am not responding. Had a great talk with Susan Quinn. We really can't expect to reduce anything unless the BOS releases money due to need. We need to remember in all the potential deliberations brought up by certain members that omce again we are NOT paying employees!!!!!!!



________________________________

From: Wilson, Tessie (School Board Member)
To: Bradsher, Elizabeth (School Board Member)
Sent: Sat May 08 17:05:46 2010
Subject: FW: Falls Church News Press article on sports fees

CALM DOWN! JUST IGNORE IT!

Tessie Wilson
Vice Chairman
School Board Member
Braddock District

_____________________________________________
From: Evans, Sandy (School Board Member)
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:03 PM
To: School Board Members
Cc: Dale, Jack; Moniuszko, Richard A..; Hunter, Barbara M. (Gatehouse); Goddard, Pam
Subject: Falls Church News Press article on sports fees

Dear Colleagues,

I wanted to bring your attention to the piece in the Falls Church News-Press about Stuart HS coaches’ concerns about the proposed $100 athletics fees:

http://www.fcnp.com/sports/6452-public-meeting-set-for-may-11.html http://www.fcnp.com/sports/6452-public-meeting-set-for-may-11.html

They speak very eloquently about how they see it affecting their school. And yes, they do know about the waiver provisions. Nonetheless they say:

“The “pay to play†policy “would devastate my program and many of the programs here at Stuart,†said Jennings, also a geometry teacher at the school. “It would absolutely devastate this school. Our programs would just die.â€

The controversial proposal “terrifies us,†Jennings said. “For my students, $100 is what they might spend a week to eat. I have kids come to me who haven’t eaten all day, because they don’t have the money. A lot of these girls have to miss practices because they have to work to support their families.â€

I hope we can find a way to eliminate both the sports fees and the AP/IB testing fees and will be working on that this week.

In this regard, I found it unfortunate that The Bottom Line included the statement that “the budget remains very stringent, with new fees for athletes and AP and IB tests….†without a strong caveat that everything remains up for discussion and reconsideration by the Board. I’m hearing today that some people read that as telling them it’s a “done deal†on the fees and not to bother to come testify. It’s not enough to tell people we welcome their comments if we simultaneously make them believe those comments can make no difference.

Respectfully,

Sandy


Sandy Evans
Mason District Member
Fairfax County School Board
Voice Mail: 571-423-1083
Andrea Shimer, Administrative Assistant
Phone: 571-423-1069

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me!

I really see no point in continuing the discussion here. Seems that most are not interested in looking for the good of the whole but ONLY out for what is happening in their own backyard. While I do not believe that vouchers are the answer, I see no reason why they couldn't be provided for all these disgruntled parents who are fed up with FCPS so they can micromanage the private schools that their children will be attending. Clearly, it is apparent that most who write here have NO interest in what is happening in the rest of the county and ONLY concern themselves with what is going on in their backyard. I'm certain that the kids will get a fine education regardless as the parents do indeed appear to be vested regardless of whether the kids are going to public or private school.

CES clearly is a special school. Too bad it does not conform to the school model (whatever that is). As for trailers that have no water, I think no water is better than contaminated well water? Besides, perhaps you should consider that the nubmers relating to the overcrowding at the three new schools as it pertains to capacity does NOT include any trailer nubmers in it. Trailers are not permanent structure and thus DO NOT get included in capacity nubmers.

Perhaps again you should consider useage of your blessed CES building for other community purposes and move on. Besides, the new schools can now ask for updating and perhaps there is a real need for this given your suggestion that they are overcrowded.

And don't worry, All the CES kids were headed to Robinson after elementary school which is one of the largest high schools in the county. I suggest that while a good education may be had with a small school and small classroom sizes, that when the kids transition to 7th grade to this huge school, perhaps they would ahve some issues coping. Being moved to a larger elementary school might really lessen the shock and ease the transition.

And feel free to "go off". Remember that sticks and stones....just know that what Honey with bees suggested is true....you get more bees with honey than vinegar!

it's numbers, not nubmers, unless you have a bad cold. Usually don't comment about spellling, but this wasn't a typo, you spelled it incorrectly 3 times!

Get over it too Wrote:
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> Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words
> will never harm me!
>
> I really see no point in continuing the discussion
> here. Seems that most are not interested in
> looking for the good of the whole but ONLY out for
> what is happening in their own backyard. While I
> do not believe that vouchers are the answer, I see
> no reason why they couldn't be provided for all
> these disgruntled parents who are fed up with FCPS
> so they can micromanage the private schools that
> their children will be attending. Clearly, it is
> apparent that most who write here have NO interest
> in what is happening in the rest of the county and
> ONLY concern themselves with what is going on in
> their backyard. I'm certain that the kids will get
> a fine education regardless as the parents do
> indeed appear to be vested regardless of whether
> the kids are going to public or private school.
>
> CES clearly is a special school. Too bad it does
> not conform to the school model (whatever that
> is). As for trailers that have no water, I think
> no water is better than contaminated well water?
> Besides, perhaps you should consider that the
> nubmers relating to the overcrowding at the three
> new schools as it pertains to capacity does NOT
> include any trailer nubmers in it. Trailers are
> not permanent structure and thus DO NOT get
> included in capacity nubmers.
>
> Perhaps again you should consider useage of your
> blessed CES building for other community purposes
> and move on. Besides, the new schools can now ask
> for updating and perhaps there is a real need for
> this given your suggestion that they are
> overcrowded.
>
> And don't worry, All the CES kids were headed to
> Robinson after elementary school which is one of
> the largest high schools in the county. I suggest
> that while a good education may be had with a
> small school and small classroom sizes, that when
> the kids transition to 7th grade to this huge
> school, perhaps they would ahve some issues
> coping. Being moved to a larger elementary school
> might really lessen the shock and ease the
> transition.
>
> And feel free to "go off". Remember that sticks
> and stones....just know that what Honey with bees
> suggested is true....you get more bees with honey
> than vinegar!

So very reassuring...let's not rock the boat...please, can't we all get along....at the end of the day, we're all in this together.

I call BS. Liz Bradsher and her friends have created a giant mess, and they deserve every bit of the criticisms now being hurled their way. Her e-mails are an outrage, and she should never hold political office again.

NO MORE LIZ BRADSHERS IN PUBLIC OFFICE!

Must have had numb hands when typing from the exterior chill!

Hurling criticism perhaps makes one feel better, but two wrongs don't make a right. While it is certainly our civic duty to vote and elect officials who serve us best, hurling cow pies and ventign your rage will not reopen CES. I think those who do this are wasting their time and energy! Best thing that can be done now is try and work with the system we have and find an equitable solution. As much as it is hard to swallow, slinging the cow pies resolves nothing other than makes one look a bit immature (like a teenager not getting their way). Move on!

Emily and Cassie-

Thanks for contributing.

As far as the bees and honey garbage, nobody should have to kiss anyone's A** in government to get what is rightfully theirs.

I am sure the SOCO crew are oh so proud of themselves for getting their middle school. Good for f-ing you. But guess what, greedy ones? Your selfishness hurts lots of communities. Your school-which is not needed-STOLE $60 million from our cash-starved CIP. So 5 0r 6 elementary schools now wait for their renovations so you can have your school.

You should be so proud.

Of the people, By the people and For the people, BABY. This Government belongs to us. And I for one will NEVER suck up to some politician to satisfy some selfich want. I will, however, always shine a spotlight on these misfits when they screw up.

Closing Clifton was a huge mistake. It has created chaos in an area already dealing with overcrowding. It made the situation worse not better. And it didn't save a penny.

This is Fairfax Underground, not a PTA meeting. If you can't take the heat, go back to bragging on your Facebook page like every other PTA mom in this county!

Get over it too Wrote:
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> Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words
> will never harm me!
>
> I really see no point in continuing the discussion
> here. Seems that most are not interested in
> looking for the good of the whole but ONLY out for
> what is happening in their own backyard. While I
> do not believe that vouchers are the answer, I see
> no reason why they couldn't be provided for all
> these disgruntled parents who are fed up with FCPS
> so they can micromanage the private schools that
> their children will be attending. Clearly, it is
> apparent that most who write here have NO interest
> in what is happening in the rest of the county and
> ONLY concern themselves with what is going on in
> their backyard. I'm certain that the kids will get
> a fine education regardless as the parents do
> indeed appear to be vested regardless of whether
> the kids are going to public or private school.
>
> CES clearly is a special school. Too bad it does
> not conform to the school model (whatever that
> is). As for trailers that have no water, I think
> no water is better than contaminated well water?
> Besides, perhaps you should consider that the
> nubmers relating to the overcrowding at the three
> new schools as it pertains to capacity does NOT
> include any trailer nubmers in it. Trailers are
> not permanent structure and thus DO NOT get
> included in capacity nubmers.
>
> Perhaps again you should consider useage of your
> blessed CES building for other community purposes
> and move on. Besides, the new schools can now ask
> for updating and perhaps there is a real need for
> this given your suggestion that they are
> overcrowded.
>
> And don't worry, All the CES kids were headed to
> Robinson after elementary school which is one of
> the largest high schools in the county. I suggest
> that while a good education may be had with a
> small school and small classroom sizes, that when
> the kids transition to 7th grade to this huge
> school, perhaps they would ahve some issues
> coping. Being moved to a larger elementary school
> might really lessen the shock and ease the
> transition.
>
> And feel free to "go off". Remember that sticks
> and stones....just know that what Honey with bees
> suggested is true....you get more bees with honey
> than vinegar!


Great points. Even though you're correct that most here are not interested in civil discourse, I hope you continue posting.

I think closing CES, while disruptive and a major change, will ultimately be good for our kids, and will assist in their growth and education!

Clifton Parent Wrote:
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> Get over it too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words
> > will never harm me!
> >
> > I really see no point in continuing the
> discussion
> > here. Seems that most are not interested in
> > looking for the good of the whole but ONLY out
> for
> > what is happening in their own backyard. While
> I
> > do not believe that vouchers are the answer, I
> see
> > no reason why they couldn't be provided for all
> > these disgruntled parents who are fed up with
> FCPS
> > so they can micromanage the private schools
> that
> > their children will be attending. Clearly, it
> is
> > apparent that most who write here have NO
> interest
> > in what is happening in the rest of the county
> and
> > ONLY concern themselves with what is going on
> in
> > their backyard. I'm certain that the kids will
> get
> > a fine education regardless as the parents do
> > indeed appear to be vested regardless of
> whether
> > the kids are going to public or private school.
> >
> > CES clearly is a special school. Too bad it
> does
> > not conform to the school model (whatever that
> > is). As for trailers that have no water, I
> think
> > no water is better than contaminated well
> water?
> > Besides, perhaps you should consider that the
> > nubmers relating to the overcrowding at the
> three
> > new schools as it pertains to capacity does NOT
> > include any trailer nubmers in it. Trailers are
> > not permanent structure and thus DO NOT get
> > included in capacity nubmers.
> >
> > Perhaps again you should consider useage of
> your
> > blessed CES building for other community
> purposes
> > and move on. Besides, the new schools can now
> ask
> > for updating and perhaps there is a real need
> for
> > this given your suggestion that they are
> > overcrowded.
> >
> > And don't worry, All the CES kids were headed
> to
> > Robinson after elementary school which is one
> of
> > the largest high schools in the county. I
> suggest
> > that while a good education may be had with a
> > small school and small classroom sizes, that
> when
> > the kids transition to 7th grade to this huge
> > school, perhaps they would ahve some issues
> > coping. Being moved to a larger elementary
> school
> > might really lessen the shock and ease the
> > transition.
> >
> > And feel free to "go off". Remember that sticks
> > and stones....just know that what Honey with
> bees
> > suggested is true....you get more bees with
> honey
> > than vinegar!
>
>
> Great points. Even though you're correct that most
> here are not interested in civil discourse, I hope
> you continue posting.
>
> I think closing CES, while disruptive and a major
> change, will ultimately be good for our kids, and
> will assist in their growth and education!


OK, poster so-called "Clifton Parent", prove that you have children at CES. Name the 3 teachers that were teaching at CES last year, but are not this year...

Pulled this from another thread since it is pertinent to this discussion.


Open Letter to the School Board
Posted by: Lindaisan ()
Date: December 15, 2010 12:06AM

Whistle Blowing _ Open Letter to the Fairfax County School Board:


I’m a resident of Fairfax County. Given that it’s lauded as among the best run, among the wealthiest, priding itself in the service provided to its residents, I am totally taken aback at the questionable behavior of some members of the School Board in regards to the future of our community schools. It is neither an emotional reaction nor an emotional issue. The county’s taxpayer base owns the schools they let the SB run and therefore a sense of school ownership by the taxpayer is only appropriate.

The issue at hand, how does a School Board allow and tolerate the unethical behavior of a member of its cadre is begging to be addressed. What is happening to our communities, our governance, that so many people can witness breach of public trust and arrogantly turn their backs hiding in a curtain of fabricated, limited & skewed information and behind the skirts of sympathetic politicians? Allowing a member to deliberately obscure the truth, insist in rationalizing and justifying a vote rooted on deceit before Fairfax County’s citizenry can only be categorized as appalling and demoralizing.

This comment is not a shot in the dark nor does it qualify as irresponsible. The incongruence of a vote to close a Governor’s Award of Excellence community school vis-à-vis the solutions presented in the Southwestern Regional Planning Study as well as the information provided in multiple hearings raised suspicions of an agenda behind an agenda. Subsequently members of two strong education/schools advocacy groups submitted FOIA requests to gain a better understanding of the most recent decisions of our School Board and FCPS. (FOIA requests have been posted for public consumption by these advocacy groups.) The information reviewed clearly shows SB rep. Liz Bradsher coaching a larger segment of her constituents from West Springfield H.S., on how to advance their center to the head of the renovation queue at the expense of closure of Clifton Elementary School (thus a smaller segment of voters). You decide how to qualify her actions.

An informed public with the responsibility and power to vote can and WILL take care of this situation. Let FCPS know that they as well as the School Board work for US, the Fairfax Resident. A boundary study that will affect 23 schools and 18,000 children cannot and should not be spearheaded by anyone who’s INTERESTS COME BEFORE THOSE OF ALL HER CONSITUTENTS, or demonstrates a lack of integrity. Such an individual needs to be removed from his/her representative position and prevented from having anything to do w/ facilities planning. I also urge you to ask of your favorite news outlets to shed light on the truth.


Lin-Dai Kendall

Concerned Parent

Fairfax Station, VA

And you think Jack Dale is or a school board member is going to respond?

herewegoagain Wrote:
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>
> An informed public with the responsibility and
> power to vote can and WILL take care of this
> situation. Let FCPS know that they as well as the
> School Board work for US, the Fairfax Resident. A
> boundary study that will affect 23 schools and
> 18,000 children cannot and should not be
> spearheaded by anyone who’s INTERESTS COME
> BEFORE THOSE OF ALL HER CONSITUTENTS, or
> demonstrates a lack of integrity. Such an
> individual needs to be removed from his/her
> representative position and prevented from having
> anything to do w/ facilities planning. I also urge
> you to ask of your favorite news outlets to shed
> light on the truth.


Liz finally got us in line for the renovations we so desperately need. Way to go Liz!

Vote Liz for County Supervisor!

WSHS rocks!!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
>
> Liz finally got us in line for the renovations we
> so desperately need. Way to go Liz!


Why was WSHS out of the renovation queue to begin with?

To WSHS rocks Wrote:
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> WSHS rocks!!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
> >
> > Liz finally got us in line for the renovations
> we
> > so desperately need. Way to go Liz!
>
>
> Why was WSHS out of the renovation queue to begin
> with?


Probably because there aren't enough obnoxious, aggressive Langley-type parents in West Springfield who DEMAND their kids/schools get the newest things first.

West Springfield HS has several award-winning teachers and a great community spirit.

>
> West Springfield HS has several award-winning
> teachers and a great community spirit.


We in Clifton can relate to pride in a school, award winning, and a great community spirit. It's nice that your special school will get the needed renovations. Too bad it had to happen at the expense of CES. It really didn't need to play out that way.

To WSHS rocks Wrote:
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> Why was WSHS out of the renovation queue to begin with?<

Because Liz jumped WSHS to build South County High and South County Middle.

But for her actions, WSHS would have been renovated 5+ years ago.

To "Just a guess" Wrote:
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> >
> > West Springfield HS has several award-winning
> > teachers and a great community spirit.
>
>
> We in Clifton can relate to pride in a school,
> award winning, and a great community spirit. It's
> nice that your special school will get the needed
> renovations. Too bad it had to happen at the
> expense of CES. It really didn't need to play out
> that way.

FYI, I've been supporting Clifton's side, you sore, lashing out Clifton parent. We do not own a home in West Springfield High School boundaries, nor do our kids attend WSHS. We are moving out of Virginia. So your comment "It's nice that your special school will get the needed renovations" is rather snarky. It's not MY special school. It is a good school, and it should not have been left out of the renovation list.

You don't do Clifton any favors by posting in such a way. There are nice Clifton people out there who post in a more reasonable manner. They do a better job of advocating for Clifton Elementary.

To "Just a guess" Wrote:
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> >
> > West Springfield HS has several award-winning
> > teachers and a great community spirit.
>
>
> We in Clifton can relate to pride in a school,
> award winning, and a great community spirit. It's
> nice that your special school will get the needed
> renovations. Too bad it had to happen at the
> expense of CES. It really didn't need to play out
> that way.

Angry Clifton mom: Liz Bradsher created this mess. West Springfield High School should have renovated years ago, but as Thomas More stated, they built South County High School and are planning South County Middle School. So Liz's precious neighborhood doesn't have to attend Hayfield or Mount Vernon High Schools.

Liz's strategy was to sacrifice Clifton to move WSHS into a renovation spot.

We need to be mad at the school board and give Liz Bradsher the boot. She wants all of us to fight with each other so we will not focus on what a nasty bitch she is. She is making a joke out of FCPS and she needs to be put in her place.


PS Since the letter's we are all sending are not working I say we all call her at home and ask why she so stupid.

There was a poster calling herself "Clifton Parent" that was saying that her kids attended Clifton Elem., and that she was FOR closing the school, and preaching to us other Clifton Elem. parents to "get over it, and move along". I then posted a question to see if she really is a "Clifton Parent" , but she ran away because she knows she was lying through her teeth! Where are you, "Clifotn Parent", answer my question so that we know you really are a clifton parent. OR -- are you posing as a Clifton Parent but are really one of Liz Bradsher's cronies?

Here's the question?

OK, poster so-called "Clifton Parent", prove that you have children at CES. Name the 3 teachers who were teaching at CES last year, but are not this year...

South County Middle School opens in Sept. 2012, and the approval came through...when? Not that long ago.

http://commweb.fcps.edu/newsreleases/newsrelease.cfm?newsid=1589

The school board didn't waste time giving Bradsher what she wanted. Was closing Clifton Elementary a condition of getting the middle school approved?

Clifton pride Wrote:
>
> FYI, I've been supporting Clifton's side, you
> sore, lashing out Clifton parent. We do not own a
> home in West Springfield High School boundaries,
> nor do our kids attend WSHS. We are moving out of
> Virginia. So your comment "It's nice that your
> special school will get the needed renovations" is
> rather snarky. It's not MY special school. It is
> a good school, and it should not have been left
> out of the renovation list.
>
> You don't do Clifton any favors by posting in such
> a way. There are nice Clifton people out there
> who post in a more reasonable manner. They do a
> better job of advocating for Clifton Elementary.


CHILL....- "your special school" was a genuine compliment. The WSHS Rocks poster was very passionate about the school... the comment was meant in that spirit... "your" = possesive. "Special" = it's obviously a special school, per the poster's comments about award winning teachers & community pride. Sheesh!!!!

Just a guess Wrote:
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> Probably because there aren't enough obnoxious,
> aggressive Langley-type parents in West
> Springfield who DEMAND their kids/schools get the
> newest things first.
>
> West Springfield HS has several award-winning
> teachers and a great community spirit.

Or maybe it has nothing to do with Langley and everything to do with Liz Bradsher having dropped the ball on WSHS initially because she only cared about South County.

Why you buy into the notion that one community has to get totally screwed so you get yours is beyond me. There were several win-win solutions offered to FCPS, but Liz was too stupid and malevolent to consider them.