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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Greeny ()
Date: October 06, 2011 04:19PM

Thomas More Wrote:
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> Mrs Nasty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I heard Bradsher was her usual hateful self at
> Silverbrooks BTSN.<
> >
> > She chewed out some 9 year old girl handing out
> campaign lit for Schultz and Bradsher made the kid
> cry.<
> >
> > That evil woman needs an exorcism.<
>
> Is it any wonder Ben Tribbet calls her the "South
> County Bitch?"

Ben Tribbet calls Bradsher the South County Bitch.
Then he calls Megan McLaughlin the New Liz Bradsher.
Then he writes about Megan's lies.
Then he endorses her.
WTF?

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Not Larry Sabato ()
Date: October 06, 2011 08:38PM

Greeny Wrote:
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> Ben Tribbet calls Bradsher the South County
> Bitch.
> Then he calls Megan McLaughlin the New Liz
> Bradsher.
> Then he writes about Megan's lies.
> Then he endorses her.
> WTF?

Tribbet is a fraud and a hack.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: You've been warned ()
Date: October 08, 2011 12:37AM

'tis the season
beware of witches bearing campaign signs
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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: hypocrite ()
Date: November 01, 2011 08:47PM

Can you believe that Bradsher just bought a house that has... a well? After telling Clifton parents how bad wells were for their children?

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: GETALIFE ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:28PM

The wells at her house probably aren't contaminated you asshole.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: herewegoagain ()
Date: November 01, 2011 11:06PM

Neither are the wells at CES.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: yes!!!! ()
Date: November 02, 2011 06:47AM

herewegoagain Wrote:
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> Neither are the wells at CES.

That's not what you said when your little rug rats were sucking down bottled water on the taxpayer dime. The water is fine ONLY after the school was slotted for closure.

Hypocrites, the lot of you.

Don't Vote for Kendall or Schultz!


the Lorenze team.

.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: November 02, 2011 11:52AM

yes!!!! Wrote:
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> herewegoagain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Neither are the wells at CES.
>
> That's not what you said when your little rug rats
> were sucking down bottled water on the taxpayer
> dime. The water is fine ONLY after the school was
> slotted for closure.
>
> Hypocrites, the lot of you.
>
> Don't Vote for Kendall or Schultz!


FCPS put the school on bottled water, not the student families. If FCPS had put in place the well solution suggested by the state years ago, the problem would have been solved long before any discussion of closing the school ever came up. As it stands, FCPS put in place the state recommended solution in time for the clean water quality tests to come back the day of the closure vote. Coincidence? Highly doubt it.

Get your facts straight before you sling more crap at folks that aren't nearly as arrogant as you make them out to be.
> the Lorenze team.
>
> .

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Mommy Lion ()
Date: November 02, 2011 01:39PM

Parent and residents said there was no issue with the water. It was FCPS who kept the results secret until the night of the meeting when the School Board voted.

No public discussion. No School Board discussion.
Then again, it wasn't necessary since the decision had already been made.

Everything the public said would be a consequence of the closure has happened.
The public was right. The School Board was wrong.

It's just that simple.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 07:10PM

School Board was right. That simple.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Perhaps Rabbit ()
Date: November 02, 2011 07:43PM

Nope11 Wrote:
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> School Board was right. That simple.


We'll see next week. If it's a landslide for the anti-incumbent candidates, looks like the voters, who have the final say on who's right and who's not will say, simply, they were wrong. If someone like Kathy Smith loses, it can be pinned directly to her collusion with this vote and the shenanigans of this current board. If she wins, it was a fleeting issue that came and went.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 07:57PM

Fairfax County isn't made up of Clifton. The School Board was right.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: The 99% ()
Date: November 02, 2011 08:00PM

Closing Clifton made sense. Now, let’s move on.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Move the right way ()
Date: November 02, 2011 09:00PM

It didn't make sense, but let's move on anyway. And let's not have something like this happen again.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 10:49PM

Nope it made sense. Ok we can move on.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: To former CES parents ()
Date: November 03, 2011 10:32AM

Has the transition to the new schools been as bad as expected? What are some of the negative impacts that have occured?

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Mmmaybe ()
Date: November 03, 2011 10:51AM

The 99% Wrote:
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> Closing Clifton made sense. Now, let’s move on.

Maybe it did make sense, but it was handled very badly. FCPS school board orchestrated it in a very devious, underhanded, and repugnant manner. They misused their positions as representatives of Fairfax County residents and branded anyone who questioned their pattern of deceit as the enemy. Very dangerous, paranoid behavior. How Bradsher, Tisdadt, and crew wake up and live with themselves each day amazes me.

I'm not in Clifton, btw.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: redistricting ()
Date: November 03, 2011 11:02AM

Clifton brought out the worst of what has been going on for years on the SB.

The redistricting of South Lakes was egregious, too. Anyone who protested was accused of being racist--even if the complaint was that it was the 3rd or 4th redistricting for a neighborhood in as many years. (Oakton to Westfield to South Lakes).

Gibson enlisted pals Strauss and Smith to help. (I find it ironic that Strauss protects Langley but sends all the money out of her district because they "need" it--except for improvements to Langley. If I were Herndon or McLean, I'd be ticked.) Talk about "limousine liberal".

Gibson broke all sorts of PTA rules that he accuses Brown-Kaplan of breaking. He met with South Lakes to make a plan and then enlisted Fox Mill PTA to do a "survey" of some type. Yet, he says that the new SB candidates are not running for the "right reasons".

Gibson and Smith sat with backs to the audience at an information meeting for parents at Chantilly. They were just RUDE. And Kathy talks about "listening".

But, Clifton was the most egregious. Or perhaps, thanks to the Clifton citizens, it was the first time we were able to see just how bad things were through the emails. I don't understand how anyone could want Gibson, Smith, or Strauss to recommend them.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: wait, wut? ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:08PM

Mmmaybe Wrote:
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> The 99% Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Closing Clifton made sense. Now, let’s move
> on.
>
> Maybe it did make sense, but it was handled very
> badly. FCPS school board orchestrated it in a
> very devious, underhanded, and repugnant manner.
> They misused their positions as representatives of
> Fairfax County residents and branded anyone who
> questioned their pattern of deceit as the enemy.
> Very dangerous, paranoid behavior. How
> Bradsher, Tisdadt, and crew wake up and live with
> themselves each day amazes me.
>

Actually, that is the attitude I see displayed here by Clifton residents and their supporters. A lot of time and energy was spent on smearing school board members, their families and anyone else coming out in their support. One can look back at the attacks on one young gentlemen who posted an article with his name.

Lorenze is throwing a lot of resources to get her candidates on the board so she can control the money going into her district. A win for her candidates does not mean the the former board was wrong, only that Karl Rove type tactics work.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: November 03, 2011 02:02PM

To former CES parents Wrote:
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> Has the transition to the new schools been as bad
> as expected? What are some of the negative
> impacts that have occured?

From what I have experienced and heard, most are adapting to the education provided at the schools and many state it is different. Different defined as "more rules, less freedom and what comes across as less engaging administration and some teachers at the schools.". Over time I suspect as the new students and families get to know the schools better this may get better. I know first hand that the level of parental volunteering at 2 of the 3 receiving schools is absolutely no where near what it was at Clifton. Volunteering as in helping where teachers requested with reading, in-class activities, special events and general assistance when asked.

Likely the largest mess associated with the change has been transportation. I think all of the receiving schools and their related bus routes have been a major source of challenge. Routes are continuing to change to this day and the perspective of many is that for a decision made in March, why are we still having transportation issues in November? That is likely the biggest issue to come from this. A lack of planning with transportation. But then again, I do remember families asking for transportation studies to be performed and it is clear they were not.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: The Church Lady ()
Date: November 03, 2011 05:19PM

To former CES parents Wrote:
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> Has the transition to the new schools been as bad
> as expected? What are some of the negative
> impacts that have occured?


Worse; some of us are on the 4th bus route change, kids are getting missed, buses are getting kids late to school, drivers don't know how to get to stops, one day the kids can cross the road the next day they can't, kids who were on buses for 15 minutes last year are on them for over an hour one way, bus drivers have gotten lost, schools aren't telling parents what is going on, transporation won't answer the calls. It is a disaster.
At schools, there is no room for art - it is now art on a cart. Trailers are in where there weren't any. Kiss and Ride lines are backed up, kids stumble over each other in hallways, lunchrooms.
These people have no clue what they did. Now transportation people are going to come out and drive around to see what the problem is. That is exactly what everyone asked for them to do before the boundary study.
Thanks Liz. How are those savings flowing? Hope you are proud of yourself.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Clifton Mom ()
Date: November 03, 2011 06:38PM

I have to agree with the concerns mentioned above - the biggest issue seems to be the buses. Everytime we get used to a schedule change, transportation changes the schedule again, but the end result is the same; kids are on a bus for an hour one way to their supposed neighborhood school.

FCPS is the 11th largest school district in the NATION, yet you'd think the kids were in a very rural county with very few schools due to long bus ride. Some kids don't get off of the bus until around quarter to five in the evenings.

Way to go, SB, Dale talks about increasing enrollment and having no land for new schools; yet a perfectly fine school is sitting empty.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Another Clifton parent ()
Date: November 03, 2011 08:02PM

It is absurd that no bus route study was done before the closing of Clifton.

Who are we kidding. FCPS pushed through the closing of Clifton with NO thought of the kids. Shame goes to Jack Dale. I think he knew the closing of Clifton was his ticket out once two kids killed themselves on his dime.

JD and Liz will rot in hell.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 ()
Date: November 03, 2011 08:33PM

No they won't. They made the right decision. Bus issues will get worked out. It happens with every redistricting. I'm sure the kids are enjoying their new schools regardless.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: November 03, 2011 09:23PM

Nope11 Wrote:
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> No they won't. They made the right decision. Bus
> issues will get worked out. It happens with every
> redistricting. I'm sure the kids are enjoying
> their new schools regardless.

School started almost 2 months ago. The decision about new boundaries was made over 7 months ago. For the tax dollars allocated to FCPS one would believe solutions to these challenges would be well past us by now. Fact is, FCPS does not plan, they react. That isn't acceptable at $2.2B+ a year. They aren't a starup company, nor a new school division yet people think this should be acceptable. Why? If they can't get something as basic as providing bus service to students that have been riding buses through areas of the county for decades, what else is screwed up but being glossed over by the FCPS media and marketing machine? Their s... stinks but no one will admit it.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: wait, wut? ()
Date: November 03, 2011 09:56PM

Another Clifton parent Wrote:
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>
> JD and Liz will rot in hell.


Thank you for proving my point.

Vote NO to Schultz and Tea Party christian Kendall!!


Take care of our kids, they sure won't.

.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: won't be trying this again for a LONG time ()
Date: November 03, 2011 10:08PM

There won't be any school closings in the foreseeable future. No matter what. Clifton will be remembered. It has left a very sour taste. And, no, I don't live in Clifton. After Clifton was closed, the least the SB could have done would have been to make the transition for the Clifton students (transportation namely) a priority. That would have gone a long way toward showing the Cliftonites and others how smoothly FCPS can transition in such a situation. Now everyone sees just why they will fight hard if the SB tries to close their school. Sad story really.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Clifton ()
Date: November 03, 2011 11:04PM

Pretty funny, all these posters claiming they're not from Clifton.

Sure you aren't, lol

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Go AWAY Liz ()
Date: November 04, 2011 12:10AM

Nope11 Wrote:
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> No they won't. They made the right decision. Bus
> issues will get worked out. It happens with every
> redistricting. I'm sure the kids are enjoying
> their new schools regardless.
Attachments:
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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: 162nd Street ()
Date: November 04, 2011 12:44AM

Let's have a shout out for Elizabeth Schultz whose campaign is being run by the McLean Queen of Mean, Catherine Lorenze. That speaks highly of her and all you who back her. Heard she sent out an anonymous email to Clifton folks telling them not to speak about her being from Clifton, the school closing, etc. Said that they would pay in some way if they did speak up. Nice lady--the email bit is all over the town. Ms. Schultz should know better.

You people really love that bullying tactic don't you? Just can't get over that someone actually stood up to the rich and arrogant. So Bradsher didn't drink your Kool-Aid and now you want her to pay. My hat is off to Bradsher, she stood up to the bullies.

So now your kids go to school with other kids and guess what...they are surviving. Well who would have thought? If you want private school then send them, otherwise you are no different than the rest of us county residents. Most of the kids are bussed. Cry me a river, you all are boundaried to Robinson, never heard complaints about that.

Can't wait to watch the fireworks on who will be paying that legal bill. You all are insane...is that a result of inbreeding?

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nuber ()
Date: November 04, 2011 01:24AM

More brainless nazi-style anti-Schultz garbage. That post could have been written by Joeseph Goebbels himself. The anti-Schultz jsck-booted thugs are a pathetic bunch of lowlife scumbags.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Also NOT from Clifton ()
Date: November 04, 2011 05:56AM

162nd Street Wrote:
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> Let's have a shout out for Elizabeth Schultz whose
> campaign is being run by the McLean Queen of Mean,
> Catherine Lorenze. That speaks highly of her and
> all you who back her. Heard she sent out an
> anonymous email to Clifton folks telling them not
> to speak about her being from Clifton, the school
> closing, etc. Said that they would pay in some
> way if they did speak up. Nice lady--the email
> bit is all over the town. Ms. Schultz should know
> better.

Nice try, no scratch that. Lame try.

Schultz makes no secret about her being from Clifton. I've heard her speak on many occaisions where she offers that information while giving her bio at the beginning of her presentation.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: wait, wut? ()
Date: November 04, 2011 07:06AM

Nuber Wrote:
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> More brainless nazi-style anti-Schultz garbage.
> That post could have been written by Joeseph
> Goebbels himself. The anti-Schultz jsck-booted
> thugs are a pathetic bunch of lowlife scumbags.

ah, Godwin's Law, likely not the first time in this thread.

Clifton supporters, debate over, you lose (again).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Clifton Rules ()
Date: November 04, 2011 07:18AM

CES will reopen as a Charter School. Almost all of Clifton's residents will apply and get their kids in. The county and state will pay for the school. The big GOP donors from Clifton already have the state folks on board. The county will be dragged kicking and screaming into this until Dale's long sayonara is over in a couple of years. Clifton wins again. Damn those Cliftonians and their money.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 = Stu Gibson ()
Date: November 04, 2011 09:06AM

"Nope11" is Stu Gibson. "wait, wut?" is Liz Bradsher.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nope11 ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:57AM

LOL "Clifton Rules" good luck with that. Not gonna happen.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: wait, wut? ()
Date: November 04, 2011 12:05PM

Nope11 = Stu Gibson Wrote:
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> "Nope11" is Stu Gibson. "wait, wut?" is Liz
> Bradsher.

"Clifton Rules" is Kendall and "Also NOT from Clifton" is Schultz (telling lies)

heh

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: MOCO lacks corruption ()
Date: December 14, 2011 12:54PM

Gauthier, Alvarado Associates, Inc.
Dustin Construction, Inc.
Well, well, look what Montgomery County PS is doing with Darnestown Elem School.

Go figure.

The school is on well water and yet---they are replacing the system rather than closing the school.


(CM) Darnestown Elementary School Addition

2A - Sitework and Septic System Replacement
June 3, 2011
2:00 pm
BIDDER
Peak, Inc.
Pleasants Construction
R.F. Kline
Ross Contracting
Urban Zink

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: December 14, 2011 02:34PM

MOCO lacks corruption Wrote:
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> Gauthier, Alvarado Associates, Inc.
> Dustin Construction, Inc.
> Well, well, look what Montgomery County PS is
> doing with Darnestown Elem School.
>
> Go figure.
>
> The school is on well water and yet---they are
> replacing the system rather than closing the
> school.
>
>
> (CM) Darnestown Elementary School Addition
>
> 2A - Sitework and Septic System Replacement
> June 3, 2011
> 2:00 pm
> BIDDER
> Peak, Inc.
> Pleasants Construction
> R.F. Kline
> Ross Contracting
> Urban Zink
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What does replacing a failed septic system that is part of an overall expansion of Darnestown Elementary School have to do with the closing of Clifton Elementary? NOTHING! They aren't replacing the well water system are they? NO! Also, you do realize that the expansion of Darnestown is the beginning of the end for another elementary school with dwindling enrollment in Montgomery County that is facing the same fate as Clifton Elementary.

Is Montgomery County being corrupt when it comes to their arguments as to why they need to close that school?

If you're still upset at the closing of Clifton, that's fine. If you want to continue arguing the point, that's fine but at least be intellectually honest when making your arguments.

Get your facts straight and look at the whole picture and not just a little snippet that you feel "makes" your argument when in reality it doesn't.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: George Wythe ()
Date: December 15, 2011 02:53PM

All of the South County Bitche's skullduggery may yet come to naught.

VA Supreme Court just granted an appeal on the FOIA violations!!

Stay tuned!

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Et tu Bradsher? ()
Date: December 20, 2011 06:44PM

Last night the new school board took their oath of office.

Bradsher is OUT.

Victor! Qui ad bonum remission futuis nobis!

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Second that Emotion ()
Date: December 20, 2011 07:30PM

Hope Liz gets a chance to catch up on her reading. A good place to start http://thebeachsideresident.com/2011/06/book-review-bitter-bitch/
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Bitter Bitch a novel.jpg

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: CountyView ()
Date: December 20, 2011 08:24PM

The new Fairfax County School Board took their Official Oath last night. We have a new group in power as of today.

News coverage video of story
http://bcove.me/ytwswk7y

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: FOIA! ()
Date: December 20, 2011 08:56PM

Liz is still a bitch. She will not win.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: A Winner ()
Date: December 20, 2011 09:33PM

She did win---you got Schultz----YOU LOST!

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Fyt ()
Date: December 20, 2011 09:42PM

Schultz sent the South Conty bitch packing. Truly awesome.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: more of the same? ()
Date: January 03, 2012 07:05AM

Can Schultz fix this?

quote from a new SB member in the Patch:



Stu Gibson has been my only school board representative, through my sixteen years as an FCPS parent and teacher. Taking his seat on the school board is a daunting responsibility. Stu has been, and I'm sure will continue to be, an avid student of education policy. I have sat many times in the audience at school board meetings, wishing I could jump up and ask a question from my perspective as an educator, and suddenly Stu will ask the very question for me. His expertise and his dedication to our children will be missed. I promise to call on that expertise and dedication often, and I know Stu will be only too happy to help. All the best to Stu and his family in the New Year!

Pat Hynes
Fairfax County School Board Member for Hunter Mill District

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: Hynes scares me ()
Date: January 03, 2012 01:05PM

Gibson is a self absorbed egomaniac.

Good riddance.

Scary how Hynes worships him.

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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: cuzIcan ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:46PM

ForkU Liz Wrote:
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> agree with who cares and others.

I saw it's Remember When Night on FFXU with revival of years-old threads.
Best possible ever thread ICYMI
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Re: Collusion by School Board Member Liz Bradsher for Political Gain
Posted by: cindy w ()
Date: December 11, 2014 06:42PM

I dont know how she sleeps at ngiht

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