"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."

Obviously those in Clifton never got the message from Spock! All the FOIA requests, while interesting and show a lack of decorum by the school board are costing the rest of the county thousands of taxpayer dollars! While I understand all the "rage", take it out with YOUR OWN COIN! OH and by the way, I really would like to see those who are suing the school board/ FCPS when the LOSE have to pay all the lawyer fees for the county (mostly because I don't think that the rest of us should have to pay for your insolence. Feel free to go off, I really don't give a hoot, you guys have already caused enough problems!

Please go away!

No, thankfully, they are here, or otherwise this would all really go down in flames. This is a travesty, and a shame, and downright embarrassing, the actions of some on the SB and FCPS. Lack of decorum? That's putting it quite mildly. Obviously, you don't have a dog in this fight. It's affecting far more than just Clifton, with the overcrowding that already exists pre-Clifton closure.

You must be a troll. You obviously don't get it, and the only way that's possible, is you don't care to get it.

"Live Long and Prosper" wrote:

Feel free to go off, I really don't give a hoot, you guys have already caused enough problems!

Please go away!



If you really don't "give a hoot", why are you telling people to "go away"? You are totally illogical Spock.

Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
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> All the FOIA requests, while
> interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> school board are costing the rest of the county
> thousands of taxpayer dollars!

Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the non-school board private citizen email addresses here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of others.

Call the Schultz's and let them know that what they are doing is wrong!

(703) 266-2299

Cheers!

Really, these Clifton folks need to chill out - if they think FCPS School Board is such a crap, then why send the kids to FCPS?

The fact is that the FCPS Board makes hundreds of good decisions which benefit the children of FC. That is why people want to send their kids to FCPS.

Its just that when some folks dont agree with some decisions, people get riled and suddenly the board is full of evil members.

CES folks - do you realize how childish your actions look?

34943 Wrote:
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> Really, these Clifton folks need to chill out - if
> they think FCPS School Board is such a crap, then
> why send the kids to FCPS?
>
> The fact is that the FCPS Board makes hundreds of
> good decisions which benefit the children of FC.
> That is why people want to send their kids to
> FCPS.
>
> Its just that when some folks dont agree with some
> decisions, people get riled and suddenly the board
> is full of evil members.
>
> CES folks - do you realize how childish your
> actions look?

It's a little bit late for a toadying apologist to come to Liz Bradsher's rescue. If you wanted to help her, you should have intervened before she did so much damage to herself and others.

Skeptical Wrote:
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>
> It's a little bit late for a toadying apologist to
> come to Liz Bradsher's rescue. If you wanted to
> help her, you should have intervened before she
> did so much damage to herself and others.


The only one damaged is Pat Herrity. That puke will certainly lose reelection for his CES special interest support.

its a lil too late whining abt CES closure, dont u think.

And, every single word I typed is true.

*
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Watched the School Board Public Hearing on TV tonight. The only thing I am sure of is that it seems to be a slow burn, but Liz Bradsher's political career is definitely melting away.

The anti-Herrity Wrote:
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> Skeptical Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > It's a little bit late for a toadying apologist
> to
> > come to Liz Bradsher's rescue. If you wanted
> to
> > help her, you should have intervened before she
> > did so much damage to herself and others.
>
>
> The only one damaged is Pat Herrity. That puke
> will certainly lose reelection for his CES special
> interest support.


With the road this School Board is going it looks more like he is instead going to gain the votes of any of the PTAs in his area that signed the Resolution to stop the boundary study. By pushing this boundary study through before next September they are handing him a ton of votes on a silver platter.

NotPat Wrote:
> >
> >
> > The only one damaged is Pat Herrity. That puke
> > will certainly lose reelection for his CES
> special
> > interest support.
>
>
> With the road this School Board is going it looks
> more like he is instead going to gain the votes of
> any of the PTAs in his area that signed the
> Resolution to stop the boundary study. By pushing
> this boundary study through before next September
> they are handing him a ton of votes on a silver
> platter.


Yep. Liz Bradsher is her own worst enemy. Pat Herrity is coming out looking like the good guy on this one by doing nothing more than warning people and then letting Liz cause her own damage by going through with her plans anyway. It's starting to become comical just watching it. It will be the perfect storm and it will hit just before election day.

http://www.novacommonsense.com/2011/02/02/democrats-dont-want-liz-bradsher-either/


UPDATED – Democrats may not want Liz Bradsher either
My friends over at Red NoVA got a pretty good scoop yesterday, when they reported that current Republican endorsed Springfield School Board representative Liz Bradsher had applied for membership in the Fairfax County Democratic Party.

This isn’t surprising to those of us who have been watching Bradsher’s tenure in office, and I noted in an article last year that she had actively disclaimed being a Republican, but when pressured she wouldn’t answer affirmatively that she was a Democrat.

“Maybe,†she said.

Well, looks like she at least made up her mind. Bradsher wants to be a Democrat.

UPDATE: According to Ben Tribbett over at Not Larry Sabato, no vote was taken on her membership last night at the FCDC meeting, with the vote being postponed to the next meeting. Here’s hoping that the Democrats make the right decision and refuse to let Bradsher play them like she played us.

Also according to our friends at RedNoVA, she said at the meeting that she didn’t intend to run for School Board again – which is good, because the chances of her getting reelected are about as good as GW making it to the Final Four this year. RedNoVA also reported that she’d made overtures for running for Board of Supervisors. Good luck. Without support from the Democrats, she’s got nowhere to turn to for support. She has zero chance in beating Pat Herrity in a primary for the Republican nomination and the Democrats are smart enough to not want her either.

What I find telling is the fact that, when the avenue of running as a Republican failed her, she turned to the Democrats. That’s a cynical move, and one that should give any of us pause when looking at those who seek elected office. I’m a strong believer in the two party system and I want my elected officials to choose a side and stay with it. As the old saying goes, you dance with the date who brought you. Those folks who want to run so bad that they’re willing to jump from party to party really need to take a step back and figure out exactly why they’re running – do they want to serve or are they just in it for their own egos?

In Bradsher’s case, I’m pretty sure we all know the answer to that.

It is hilarious that Bradsher and her trolly little toadies STILL think that Clifton is responsible for all their ills.

Were they conscious for the public hearing tonight?

We watched and, man, did that make for good entertainment.

Seemed like the head count were more people not from Clifton, not with any children, not with any dog in the fight who came out to support their own schools in the travesty of a boundary study - and the bonus was the opportunity to let the school board, and especially Liz Bradsher, know exactly what they thought.

Not a single word of support for the board. Not one. Nothing. Only blistering truth.

So, the board can either keep deluding themselves that there are those of us around the county supporting those fighting the boundary study or they can keep up the arrogance and slinging mud at parents, moms (Shultz should get a medal) and dads and advocates.

Making enemies Wrote:
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> Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All the FOIA requests, while
> > interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> > school board are costing the rest of the county
> > thousands of taxpayer dollars!
>
> Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of
> enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no
> other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the
> non-school board private citizen email addresses
> here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These
> Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of
> others.
>
> Call the Schultz's and let them know that what
> they are doing is wrong!
>
> (703) 266-2299
>
> Cheers!


You pathetic piece of shit. The SB members are using public school accounts. They belong to the tax payers, not the high and mightly school board members. You don't know anything about this subject so go get your lying pinocchio nose out of Bradsher's ass and go screw yourself.

Cheers!

Making enemies Wrote:
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> Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All the FOIA requests, while
> > interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> > school board are costing the rest of the county
> > thousands of taxpayer dollars!
>
> Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of
> enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no
> other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the
> non-school board private citizen email addresses
> here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These
> Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of
> others.
>
> Call the Schultz's and let them know that what
> they are doing is wrong!
>
> (703) 266-2299
>
> Cheers!


There is a post above which says Elizabeth Schultz made one FOIA request but there are many FOIA'd emails on this list so obviously it isn't her. So what is your personal vendetta with her? This is intriguing that her name keeps coming up.

It is also interesting that you have a fit about privacy and then YOU post HER phone number on this list. Thanks for doing that, by the way, because I am going to call her and tell her I am not sure who is posting these FOIAs but thank her for the guts she obviously has in questioning this School Board because I have seen her on TV and in various newspaper articles fighting for the educational interests of the children in this part of the County.

What I want to know is how much money of my taxdollars FCPS is spending on their people down in Richmond currently LOBBYING to try and avoid producing the FOIAs. It seems like they are desperately trying to hide something. What is in the FOIAs that they don't want to turn over?

Making enemies Wrote:
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> Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All the FOIA requests, while
> > interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> > school board are costing the rest of the county
> > thousands of taxpayer dollars!
>
> Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of
> enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no
> other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the
> non-school board private citizen email addresses
> here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These
> Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of
> others.
>
> Call the Schultz's and let them know that what
> they are doing is wrong!
>
> (703) 266-2299
>
> Cheers!

Getting hardball now I guess. I have to think this is part of the SB's communication plan - villify the parents who ask for transparency. We got the polite version in the Post article from Honest Abe and Liz, and now we're getting the dirty version.

Need to start fresh with all new members in 2012. The one we have doesn't work.

Watched last night; more than 1,000 words by the public, but no picture is worth the words they used - it rocked!
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The question to be asked regarding the articlein the Post is....whom are we to beleive....the reporter for the Post or a bunch of disgruntled individuals who post their displeasure on discussion boards?

I think we all know the answer to that one!

I don't mind the comments so much as the waste of taxpayer money to try and keep a school open that should be closed (with the option to build a new school in the area, it's too bad that teh ad hoc folks didn't follow through on the Liberty site or another site nearby).

Well said unbelievable (). The FCPS School Board members are not a bunch of idiots - who just are out there to screw the county.


The boundary changes being proposed are, in most part are very logical and phase in over 2-3 years.

Its only some PTA's ( with their own agenda, we all know that) and CES impacted folks who are bent on calling this hasty.

The fact is - 50% of the seats in the auditorium were empty yesterday. 60%-70% of people who bothered to give their feedback, support the proposed action.

People are relatively OK with these changes.

The other folks on this board need to face up to this fact.

Don't believe a word any poster says - who cares.

Liz and Dean bury themselves with their own words.

Collecting votes SECRETLY BEHIND THE SCENES:
two weeks BEFORE the public hearing
more than two weeks before the work session and
three weeks before the public meeting to "vote"
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SW Wrote:
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> Well said unbelievable (). The FCPS School Board
> members are not a bunch of idiots - who just are
> out there to screw the county.
>
>
> The boundary changes being proposed are, in most
> part are very logical and phase in over 2-3
> years.
>
> Its only some PTA's ( with their own agenda, we
> all know that) and CES impacted folks who are bent
> on calling this hasty.
>
> The fact is - 50% of the seats in the auditorium
> were empty yesterday. 60%-70% of people who
> bothered to give their feedback, support the
> proposed action.
>
> People are relatively OK with these changes.
>
> The other folks on this board need to face up to
> this fact.


What 60-70%? Are you high? Not a single speaker said a kind word to the board. No praise. No congratulations. No job well done. No kudos, high fives and no gratitude.

The school board has received nearly 2 years of feedback that their are ramming stuff down the throats of residents. People are exhausted with their non-silence being ignored. One speaker said it best when he said the empty chairs were silence that needing listening to - because they represented all the people who are so thoroughly disgusted with the board.

People from around the region spoke. People who had NO KIDS spoke. People who have absolutely nothing to gain and just their money going to this mafia to lose. These on top of the countless emails, meetings, letters, calls.

Let's see if the board can prove they aren't arrogant and sanctimonious. If they do the right thing, everyone here will be proved wrong. Hazard to say, they will take that lump if the board does do the right thing.

Betcha they don't.

Making enemies Wrote:
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> Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All the FOIA requests, while
> > interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> > school board are costing the rest of the county
> > thousands of taxpayer dollars!
>
> Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of
> enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no
> other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the
> non-school board private citizen email addresses
> here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These
> Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of
> others.
>
> Call the Schultz's and let them know that what
> they are doing is wrong!
>
> (703) 266-2299
>
> Cheers!

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win!

Keep at Mrs. Schultz!

+1

Relax No FCPS Trolls () ( this is exactly the type of hyper folks talking yesterday)

60%-70% of people who
> bothered to give their feedback, support the
> proposed action.

This is the result of the online survey - in response to which, 600 folks responded and 65% were positive.


As much as you shout, it does not hide the fact that many folks do think these boundary changes are logical - assuming CES is closed.

And, there is something called email, through which direct feedback can be provided to the SB

These are the people who have studied Clifton for how long?

And still know nothing about it.

Informed decision hardly.
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Unless your child goes to Clifton elementary you will never get why we love our school so much. This should be about the children but sad to say it is not.

FYI



FCPS has been sued more than four times in 4 years.



FCPS has been dramatically increasing their legal budget every year for 4 years to protect their dramatically increasingly defective actions.



FCPS is back down in Richmond to lobby the legislature to take away even more of the parents and taxpayer rights.



What is the FCPS administration afraid of? Parents?



FCPS multiple year charade has only gone to develop frighteningly more powerful county wide coalitions who will no longer be denied.




TWELVE BIG ASS HOLES, PLUS DALE

to: You will never get it ()

I would be really sad/angry if my child's school is closed. But I am in a situation where because of CES closing..my child's school is also changing ( which is effectively the same as my child's school closing)

So - I am just as impacted..and I have made it loud and clear to the board..that IF the CES closing is final, THEN the suggested boundary changes are quite reasonable.


I dont have a fight with the CES parents - just with those people who are calling the boundary study incoherent/incomplete/blah blah.. - when its really not - given the fact that CES is slated for closure.

I can't wait to see the real costs of this whole nightmare.

Let's haul in all these trailers-even if they have them at another site it still costs $50,000 to move ONE.

How many will we need? 10? 15?

It should be interesting when they CRAM 400 kids into these classrooms.

Good governance at its finest.

If only people who did not live in Clifton were first told by the SB the TRUTH. We may have been able to all get together and fight the SB.

don't have to use low bid????Interesting.....is there a connection? Who gets the contract?


"Many counties like Fairfax are also using the new Public-Private Education Facilities and Infrastructure Act of 2002 to help keep the process moving expeditiously. The legislation allows local entities to contract outside the typical low-bid Virginia public procurement process. School systems are using it in a variety of ways to help bring in best-value bidders, rather than low-bid, and speed up the general delivery process"

http://midatlantic.construction.com/features/archive/0412_Feature1.asp

Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
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> "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the
> few or the one."
>
> Obviously those in Clifton never got the message
> from Spock! All the FOIA requests, while
> interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> school board are costing the rest of the county
> thousands of taxpayer dollars! While I understand
> all the "rage", take it out with YOUR OWN COIN! OH
> and by the way, I really would like to see those
> who are suing the school board/ FCPS when the LOSE
> have to pay all the lawyer fees for the county
> (mostly because I don't think that the rest of us
> should have to pay for your insolence. Feel free
> to go off, I really don't give a hoot, you guys
> have already caused enough problems!
>
> Please go away!


This is about right -
fiction, aliens, living in another universe, mindmelds
and the
School Board. That works.

May we clue you in? Star Trek is an F'ing story, you basement dweller.

You have obviously been assimilated.

Now, let the grown ups do the real work and go back to your XBox.

Out here, we deal with real problems, real corruption - and real consequences.

Try a little earthbound Superman if you can only mentally process a fantasy life -

Truth, Justice and the American Way.

SW Wrote:
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> Relax No FCPS Trolls () ( this is exactly the type
> of hyper folks talking yesterday)
>
> 60%-70% of people who
> > bothered to give their feedback, support the
> > proposed action.
>
> This is the result of the online survey - in
> response to which, 600 folks responded and 65%
> were positive.
>
>
> As much as you shout, it does not hide the fact
> that many folks do think these boundary changes
> are logical - assuming CES is closed.
>
> And, there is something called email, through
> which direct feedback can be provided to the SB

I believe there was a survey on Option D. There was 65% support with minor changes or something like that. But did they do a survey on the latest Option? If so, I missed it (very possible).

Community meetings were only held for first three options.

Small groups. No questions were allowed in front of the collective group.

Divide and conquer?

Answers were only given to the small groups.

Some groups received three different answers to the same question.

Most questions weren't answered at all. They didn't know the answers.

On-line survey, with limited time to respond. We tried and survey said it was over. It wasn't but we couldn't respond.

Option D.

Seems to solve a few problems, but still massive movement, tumbling dominoes for boundaries, many schools over max capacity. Traded problems, not solved them.

Option E.

72 hours later? Final recommendation accepted by Staff.

Yep. That's transparent. That's seeking input.

Then the Public Hearing.
Nearly half of the board members either didn't bother to show up or left early. The hearing has been scheduled since September; they apparently couldn't be bothered to put it on their calendar.

This is a boundary study - of the boundaries of misconduct, mockery of the public and community disengagement.

Some of the entries on this thread are such junk. Sorry, but that's 65% approval (or whatever) based on the paint you in the corner approach taken to derive that count. (Here are the options - which moves the fewest kids? etc., etc. - they are driving you toward a certain conclusion, based on limited poor options)

So many are affected very negatively by the proposed changes. I'm sure no one who supports these changes (based on very poor actions and ethics, I might add) would do so if their neighborhood schools were going to be overcrowded with trailers, and their streets overcrowded with the additional traffic.

But it comes around, so prepare yourself. At the very least, this farce, should it come to pass, will be a black mark on FCPS. Everyone who owns a house within FCPS district will suffer. Fewer people will want to buy a house here and face this kind of possible treatment in the future, and/or deal with the overcrowded, trailer-ridden schools that result.

Vision of September to come
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SW Wrote:
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> to: You will never get it ()
>
> I would be really sad/angry if my child's school
> is closed. But I am in a situation where because
> of CES closing..my child's school is also changing
> ( which is effectively the same as my child's
> school closing)
>
> So - I am just as impacted..and I have made it
> loud and clear to the board..that IF the CES
> closing is final, THEN the suggested boundary
> changes are quite reasonable.
>
>
> I dont have a fight with the CES parents - just
> with those people who are calling the boundary
> study incoherent/incomplete/blah blah.. - when its
> really not - given the fact that CES is slated for
> closure.


How can you say that the proposed recommendation from FCPS Staff is reasonable when Colin Powell ES, one of the schools that originally started this entire Boundary Study is not getting any relief from their overcrowding until 2013? I'm sorry, but that's not logical.

When the FCPS budget includes $10 MILLION to move trailers - that's not reasonable, that's a travesty! If these people worked in the private sector and handed in reports that create more problems than solve, they would be fired.

Changes to the current boundaries need to be made, nobody is arguing that. There are 5 schools in desperate need of relief from the overcrowding. What people are complaining about is the MILLIONS of dollars being spent when the problems are not being solved, they're simply being shifted to other schools. How is that fair and equal treatment to any of us.

If so many people support these boundary changes, then where were they last night asking the SB to approve the recommendation? There weren't any!

The SB will tell you that they have a 65% approval rating for Option D based on the 600 online responses. If that's the case, what the hell happened to Option D, which is drastically different from the recommendation?

If you're happy with the new school your child will attend next year and you're happy with the move, good for you. I mean that sincerely, I am happy for you.

Personally, I'm okay with the school that my kids are being moved to in the recommendation. It's much better than our previous choices. BUT, this isn't just about me. It is about MILLIONS of taxpayer funds (whether you have children in FCPS or not, 54% of your tax dollars go to FCPS) being spent on a "solution" that creates more problems than it solves.

Nobody is saying that we don't need a solution for the schools facing the worst overcrowding. What we're saying is we want a REAL solution, not a band-aid that is only going to create more problems in the long run. You can cover an infection with the biggest band-aid in the world. If you don't get to the root of the infection it will continue to fester. Is that really what we want for the kids in this county?

SW Wrote:
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> to: You will never get it ()
>
> I would be really sad/angry if my child's school
> is closed. But I am in a situation where because
> of CES closing..my child's school is also changing
> ( which is effectively the same as my child's
> school closing)
>
> So - I am just as impacted..and I have made it
> loud and clear to the board..that IF the CES
> closing is final, THEN the suggested boundary
> changes are quite reasonable.
>
>
> I dont have a fight with the CES parents - just
> with those people who are calling the boundary
> study incoherent/incomplete/blah blah.. - when its
> really not - given the fact that CES is slated for
> closure.

Nobody gives a crap about you or who you think you have a fight with. You're just another pathetic SB lackey trying to sound like the voice of reason. If you're such a fine, upstanding citizen post your name and phone number like the asshole did to the Schultz'. No, your just another anonymous Internet loser who thinks they will change one mind or that anyone cares what you think. We don't

The Schultz family are wonderful citizens of Clifton. They have worked hard to make a difference for ALL kids in Fairfax county. We need more people like them.

I am just a citizen in Fairfax who likes what I see in the Schultz family.

herewegoagain Wrote:

> If so many people support these boundary changes,
> then where were they last night asking the SB to
> approve the recommendation? There weren't any!
>
> The SB will tell you that they have a 65% approval
> rating for Option D based on the 600 online
> responses. If that's the case, what the hell
> happened to Option D, which is drastically
> different from the recommendation?

There is zero approval rate for Option E.
Option D isn't on the table - Staff recommended E.
Option D had no community engagement.
Countywide on-line survey for just the sw portion of the county makes any input suspect. There were no controls, no checks, no data collection.
People filled it out 5-10 in many cases.
Option E had no community engagement.
Came out on a Monday.
Submitted as final to School Bd Thursday.
3 days to receive, have no interaction with public, solicit no comments, provide no further information.

The machine has done the work to marginalize the public.

Seems last night, the public gave as good as they have been getting.

Fairfax county and the schools are becoming a joke. We will no longer be thought of as a great place to live. I have been here forty years and can't wait to move. I am lucky I can live where I want. I feel sorry for the rest of you. I have had enough!

It is time to move out of Fairfax Wrote:
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> Fairfax county and the schools are becoming a
> joke. We will no longer be thought of as a great
> place to live. I have been here forty years and
> can't wait to move. I am lucky I can live where I
> want. I feel sorry for the rest of you. I have had
> enough!


Please, oh please tell the public that you are really Liz Bradsher .....and had enough....

>Please, oh please tell the public that you are really Liz Bradsher .....and had enough.

+1

Schultz family Wrote:
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> The Schultz family are wonderful citizens of
> Clifton. They have worked hard to make a
> difference for ALL kids in Fairfax county. We need
> more people like them.

They see right through you, Elizabeth, now go back to posting your childish Liz Bradsher bitch pictures.

btw, who paid for the FOIA processing, you or all of us taxpayers?

Elizabeth SChultz, please allow me to say that you are an inspiration to the entire community. And please tell these phony blowhards who are oh soooo worried about tax dollars, that the senseless closing of CES will cost them millions in tax dollars, and the cost associated with your prudent FOIA requests pale in comparison. Again, you go girl!

Jared Wrote:
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> Elizabeth SChultz, please allow me to say that you
> are an inspiration to the entire community. And
> please tell these phony blowhards who are oh soooo
> worried about tax dollars, that the senseless
> closing of CES will cost them millions in tax
> dollars, and the cost associated with your prudent
> FOIA requests pale in comparison. Again, you go
> girl!

+1

Those are the best tax dollars I've seen spent by the FCPS in a long time...if in fact their calculations are correct.

Jared Wrote:
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> please tell these phony blowhards who are oh soooo
> worried about tax dollars, that the senseless
> closing of CES will cost them millions in tax
> dollars,

You must be on crack cocaine

What a flagrant lie.

In reading both emails from supporters of ending the boundary study and posts by those in support of the boundary study [or FCPS], it is interesting that those who wish the boundary study to end provide many reasons, a bunch of facts and seem to have support that is pretty varied.

Those writing in support of FCPS or the study seem to be insult oriented.

Not saying the other side hasn't done the same, but there aren't really any posts denying with facts that Ms. Bradsher did exactly what is claimed.

So, are those in support of FCPS or the study saying Ms. Bradsher did not write these emails?

Righteous or unrighteous anger aside, she either did write these emails, as did all the other school board members and FCPS personnel, or they didn't.

Is the pro-FCPS argument that these emails are fabricated? Certainly there are far too many to be created out of thin air.

If these are, which would appear to be the case, generated by FCPS and school board personnel, what possible argument is there to support the goings-on in these documents?


People watching & reading is fascinating.

Excellent commentary Jared. And the addlepated bold-faced liar and cocaine addict who accused you of falsehoods is a phukking lunatic.

Book about FCPS and their boundary study hitting the shelves near you.
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Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight. But, did anyone see the article in the Washington Post yesterday? If I remember correctly, the school board was complaining that the citizens of Clifton were putting extreme financial burdens on the school system because of the cost of providing copies of emails between school board members. They were going to take this issue (financial burden due to citizens utilizing the freedom of information act) to Richmond. Yet another waste of our money. I feel fortunate that my children are out of the corrupt school system. Let's clean up this problem before I have school age grandchildren. Trust me, there's nothing worse than a pi$$ed off Grandma!

FCPS is not out money.

The person requesting the information must pay to get it.

FCPS is getting their money. If anything, they are making money.

It does not take the many hours they quote to sort email and send a copy.
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Anyone else find it funny that Bradsher's campaign site of old now directs to the GoDaddy.com hosting service? Check it out yourself at www.lizbradsher.org .

So, there are other concerned citizens in the county who have asked for Freedom Of Information Act data.

Don't be so quick to point your finger, at Clifton or anyone else, because you have three pointing back at you.

Why doesn't the school system just put the information on their website when they respond, that way we can all see it, who requested it and that school system met the law?

Isn't that pretty simple?

If they make a copy to respond, can't they just make a link at the same time?

WSHS PARENT Wrote:
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> Jared Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Elizabeth SChultz, please allow me to say that
> you
> > are an inspiration to the entire community. And
> > please tell these phony blowhards who are oh
> soooo
> > worried about tax dollars, that the senseless
> > closing of CES will cost them millions in tax
> > dollars, and the cost associated with your
> prudent
> > FOIA requests pale in comparison. Again, you go
> > girl!
>
> +1
>
> Those are the best tax dollars I've seen spent by
> the FCPS in a long time...if in fact their
> calculations are correct.

Oops, read that wrong. I was referring to cost of the FIOA documents.

Is anyone running against Kathy Smith????

Kathy Smith, the school board's Sully District member, said she was concerned that the mere presence of board members would distract the parents.

"The danger when school board members attend meetings is people stop having meetings and [start] trying to talk to board members, and [the discussion] loses its richness," she said.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/education/2010/11/fairfax-parents-upset-over-poor-school-board-attendance-overcrowding-meetings##ixzz1DSnc9qam

Justataxpayer Wrote:
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> Anyone else find it funny that Bradsher's campaign
> site of old now directs to the GoDaddy.com hosting
> service? Check it out yourself at
> www.lizbradsher.org .

That would likely mean that the domain registration has lapsed and it can be purchased by anyone. Takes about 5 minutes to buy from Go Daddy and have it re-directed to something like savecliftonelementary.org. Just sayin.....

go daddy Wrote:
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> Justataxpayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone else find it funny that Bradsher's
> campaign
> > site of old now directs to the GoDaddy.com
> hosting
> > service? Check it out yourself at
> > www.lizbradsher.org .
>
> That would likely mean that the domain
> registration has lapsed and it can be purchased by
> anyone. Takes about 5 minutes to buy from Go
> Daddy and have it re-directed to something like
> savecliftonelementary.org. Just sayin.....


OMG! DO IT!

We can post all the pretty pictures of Liz!

2456345 Wrote:
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> its a lil too late whining abt CES closure, dont u think.
> And, every single word I typed is true.


I do not know about it being true. But almost every word you typed is incorrect.

1) "its"--- Should be "It's"---Capitalize the first letter in a sentence and add an apostrophe

2) "lil"--- Should be "little".

3) "its a lil too late whining"--- Nice sentence structure!

4) "abt"--- I think you mean about.

5) "abt CES closure"--- Shouldn't you add "the" in front of CES?

6) "dont"--- Again, learn how to use an apostrophe!

7) "u"--- The word is "you".

8) "dont u think."--- You are starting a new sentence which is a question. Capitalize the first word. A question mark belongs on the end.

These are just a few of the many mistakes that I found in two short sentences. You obviously did not go to Clifton Elementary!

Not a Clifton alumnus! Wrote:
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> 2456345 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > its a lil too late whining abt CES closure, dont
> u think.
> > And, every single word I typed is true.
>
>
> I do not know about it being true. But almost
> every word you typed is incorrect.
>
> 1) "its"--- Should be "It's"---Capitalize the
> first letter in a sentence and add an apostrophe
>
> 2) "lil"--- Should be "little".
>
> 3) "its a lil too late whining"--- Nice sentence
> structure!
>
> 4) "abt"--- I think you mean about.
>
> 5) "abt CES closure"--- Shouldn't you add "the"
> in front of CES?
>
> 6) "dont"--- Again, learn how to use an
> apostrophe!
>
> 7) "u"--- The word is "you".
>
> 8) "dont u think."--- You are starting a new
> sentence which is a question. Capitalize the
> first word. A question mark belongs on the end.
>
> These are just a few of the many mistakes that I
> found in two short sentences. You obviously did
> not go to Clifton Elementary!


You missed the unnecessary comma after 'and'. Not that I'm a grammar troll.

Grossed Out Granny Wrote:
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> So, there are other concerned citizens in the
> county who have asked for Freedom Of Information
> Act data.
>
> Don't be so quick to point your finger, at Clifton
> or anyone else, because you have three pointing
> back at you.
>
> Why doesn't the school system just put the
> information on their website when they respond,
> that way we can all see it, who requested it and
> that school system met the law?
>
> Isn't that pretty simple?
>
> If they make a copy to respond, can't they just
> make a link at the same time?


Good point. What are they hiding? They are so desperate now that they have lobbyists in Richmond using our taxdollars to try and lobby to not have to provide the information. Dying to know WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

Hiding Wrote:
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>
> Good point. What are they hiding? They are so
> desperate now that they have lobbyists in Richmond
> using our taxdollars to try and lobby to not have
> to provide the information. Dying to know WHAT
> ARE THEY HIDING?

They all sit there with laptops open during the SB meetings. We've already seen from the e-mails that are out there that Tsidadt was e-mailing them info during the board meeting. I'm betting there are a bunch of one to one e-mails between the board members that are highly embarrasing (like snarky comments about a speaker, either SB or public) or perhaps even rise to the level of violating the open meetings laws in some way.

People speaking received email from SBMs.

While speaking to them.

Talk about rude.

The one chance the public gets to address them and the SBMs can't give 3 minutes of common courtesy?

This SB is unteachable.

They just failed their own SOL.

Why is Dean Tisdadt so extraordinarily chummy with Liz Bradsher? Why are they so determined to have their way?

And still, what is going to become of the land and building if Clifton Elementary closes? Who are the ones that benefit? I find it hard to believe that somebody isn't already planning something that will get them a lot of money and/or power as a result of this.

Transparency is very important in school districts. It's incredibly stupid that some of these people felt they were entitled to act in this way and get away with it--that NO ONE around here would call them on it. They have deluded themselves into thinking they were the sole architects of a "better way."

Radar the SB Wrote:
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> People speaking received email from SBMs.

They did? Were they answering questions the speakers asked? I think if they were responding directly via email to the speakers that is good. I would love to hear the comments made by SB members in the e-mails.

Document Jockey Wrote:
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> FCPS is not out money.
>
> The person requesting the information must pay to
> get it.
>
> FCPS is getting their money. If anything, they are
> making money.
>
> It does not take the many hours they quote to sort
> email and send a copy.



So, who is Joan Talbert from Herndon?

I wonder what she got for $181.

Why the money order?

e-mails Wrote:
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> Radar the SB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People speaking received email from SBMs.
>
> They did? Were they answering questions the
> speakers asked? I think if they were responding
> directly via email to the speakers that is good. I
> would love to hear the comments made by SB members
> in the e-mails.

Send in a FOIA!

Fairfax County Public Schools
c/o Paul Regnier
8115 Gatehouse Road
Suite 5100
Falls Church, VA 22042 pregnier@fcps.edu

SW Wrote:
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> Well said unbelievable (). The FCPS School Board
> members are not a bunch of idiots - who just are
> out there to screw the county.
>
>
> The boundary changes being proposed are, in most
> part are very logical and phase in over 2-3
> years.
>
> Its only some PTA's ( with their own agenda, we
> all know that) and CES impacted folks who are bent
> on calling this hasty.
>
> The fact is - 50% of the seats in the auditorium
> were empty yesterday. 60%-70% of people who
> bothered to give their feedback, support the
> proposed action.
>
> People are relatively OK with these changes.
>
> The other folks on this board need to face up to
> this fact.


I don't have a stake in this - other than the fact that these POLITICIANS waited too many years to change boundaries, closed needed capacity, and neglected to include responsible locations for GT/AAP.

This is the group building SOCO middle school.

I like the foia'd emails BUT find the editorializing of them annoying. Print them straight and do comments in blue/red footnotes.

Please sign the SW Boundary Study petition today!

A new petition regarding the SW Boundary Study has been started online by a concerned parent from Poplar Tree Elementary in Chantilly.

This petition will be presented to the School Board prior to their vote on the boundary changes on Feb. 24th. Please take a moment to follow the link below and sign the petition. It is free to sign. There is a "requested donation" page that pops up after you add your signature, but you do not need to make a donation in order for your signature to count.

It only takes a moment.

54% of tax revenue for Fairfax County goes directly to FCPS. The proposed boundary changes will cost taxpayers from the entire county over $15 MILLION, and fails to effectively solve the overcrowding. Please sign the petition, and please forward this to everyone you know in Fairfax County. Even if they do not have children in FCPS or live in the SW Region of Fairfax County, every resident of Fairfax County is going to pay for this failure.

"Southwestern Boundary Study Petition"
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/southwesternboundarystudy/

February 7, 2011 - Public Hearing No. 3 - Southwestern Boundaries

http://www.fcps.edu/DIT/streaming/02-07-11schoolboardmeeting.asx

Gives whole new meaning to "shellacking!" Completely worth viewing.

Have noted that unedited FOIAs are being posted elsewhere, including here:
http://savecliftonelementary.org/FOIA-emails.html

This is called using logic:
"The SB will tell you that they have a 65% approval rating for Option D based on the 600 online responses. If that's the case, what the hell happened to Option D, which is drastically different from the recommendation?"
For the few that have posted that the boundary changes make sense, be honest. Your comment stems out of a self-serving motivation because you are one of the 15,000 that were just scared into thinking your kids might be affected by this move and not one of the 2500 it potentially will screw up and split. There's absolutely no sense, no LOGIC and no efficacy in moving boundaries as often as this school board and FCPS are attempting to. Moves are not only disruptive to the children (studies show that even more so the younger the age), but are quirte costly.
And then there is the money issue.....Do you have the slightest idea of where the money authorized by bonds by Fairfax voters has gone? Do you know that the school system absorbs almost 54% of the county budget? Do you know that that county transfer is only 74.7% of the total fcps budget? Their budget surpasses the $2billion mark. That's about $13-14K per student. That's enough to put everyone in brick and mortar schools, but oh wait we have to cover Post employment benefits and the Teacher retirement fund. This model of spending has caused whole states to go bankrupt. Are we going to let this happen to Virginia?
Fairfax County residents need to wake up. Because there is NO logic in having a local government service provider take 54% of your budget to provide a service for only 25% of the population....absolutely absurd.....somewhere the beans are not getting counted and/or mis-used....
just my humble opinion
And oh, btw....mega kudos to Elizabeth Schultz, if the SB had half of her integrity, we wouldn't have this mayhem!

Seriously SW? What are you smoking my friend?
Your comment is transparent. You have no idea what you are talking about and never went to an engagement meeting because if you had you'd have experienced the dissent!People responded to an option (D) which later was completely modified (issued less than 7 days before the hearing).
YOU MUST WORK WITH THIS BUNCH OF INEPT BUREAUCRATS....=(

THEY ARE ILLOGICAL ESPECIALLY IF CES CLOSES. They create a problem where there was none.In doing the boundary study after the CES closure it is obvious that they are trying to "fix" their booboo....


Posted by: Making enemies ()
Date: February 07, 2011 09:47PM


Live Long and Prosper Wrote:
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> All the FOIA requests, while
> interesting and show a lack of decorum by the
> school board are costing the rest of the county
> thousands of taxpayer dollars!

Elizabeth Schultz et al are also making a lot of enemies by posting the FOIA emails here for no other reason but to ridicule. Releasing all the non-school board private citizen email addresses here is an invasion of privacy and a shame. These Clifton people have no concern for the privacy of others.
Call the Schultz's and let them know that what they are doing is wrong!
Cheers!
LIVELONG AND PROSPER & MAKING ENEMIES: don't be surprised if your ph. # shows up here too. Your commentary indicates ignorance of the issue and your behavior is beyond despicable.
Ignorance : the FOIA requests were done to shed light on what many of us knew to be a predetermined/political decision in collusion w/ a larger voting segment.Bradsher just thought we were to stupid to find out. The cost of FOIAs is responsibility of the individual requesting them. The time spent doing this may be tax payer $ but so is their salary. They spend more in useless retreats, administrative expenses than you'll ever realize.

People affected by the western district boundary study spent $120,000 out of THEIR own pockets in an attempt to get justice, only to have it denied by a defective judicial action.

FCPS has been sued more than four times in 4 years. WHY?

FCPS has been dramatically increasing their legal budget every year for 4 years to protect their dramatically increasingly defective actions.

As we speak, the FCPS is back down in Richmond to lobby the legislature to take away even more of the parents and taxpayer rights.

What the FCPS administration is afraid of?

This whole FCPS multiple year charade has only gone to develop frighteningly more powerful county wide coalitions who will no longer be denied.

Despicable: Should any harm come onto any one member of the Schultz family because of you posting their phone, I assure you, I will not be the only one who will make it my job to find you and expose you. We found out the SB's dirty tactics. Don't doubt for a minute that you can remain anonymous in our quest for what is right, just and deserved.This is not a threat it's a promise.

I note that none of the "pro=FCPS" posts agreed with the idea of the school system just putting up a link to all the information they send in response to a Freedom Of Information Act letter from the public.

Why can't this be done simply and that way FCPS will prove they are completely obeying the law?

This just seems like common sense and good service to the public.

It would also seem that it might lower costs, as the more information that is available publicly the fewer requests will be in the future.

In all the comments, it seems like Elizabeth Schultz was the only one brave enough to post her own name (I, for one, am afraid to do that!). She seems pretty brave.

The terrible posts would not make your Granny's happy.

Heard she was back in rare form at the boundary study public hearing!

Here is your moment of Zen:
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Thomas More Wrote:
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> > StopComplaining Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------
> -
> If you are a Democrat and do not want Liz
> Bradsher to receive the Democratic endorsement,
> stop complaining on Fairfax Underground and take 2
> minutes to write an email to the Fairfax County
> Democratic Committee and voice your opinion that
> she should not be endorsed as a Democrat. Here is
> the contact list for the Democratic Committee.
>
> http://fairfaxdemocrats.org/about/contact<;
>
> Venting here is cathartic. So feel free to
> continue and since FCDC doesn't meet again until
> March 22 and the first action will be a vote to
> recommend by the Springfield District Democratic
> Committee, focus your e-mails on this addresses:
>
> springfield@fairfaxdemocrats.org

Thanks for your suggestion.....regarding Bradsher's application to the Democratic Committee

Does the writer need to be a registered Democrat?

omg whut? Wrote:
> You must be on crack cocaine
>
> What a flagrant lie.


Oh, Dean Tistadt - so nice to see you trolling on FFU, you bottom-feeder.

What, no new material? The slinging crack cocaine accusations bit is getting tiresome.

Is that your dirty little secret, among others?

If only those anti-theft cameras designed to pick off kids in poverty
grabbing a bagel were trained other places in schools, we'd have even more "FCPS Gone Wild" to post on this thread, right?

seeker of truth Wrote:
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> Thanks for your suggestion.....regarding Bradsher's application to the Democratic Committee<
>
> Does the writer need to be a registered Democrat?<


We don't register by party in Va.

But if you've voted in Democratic Primaries like for President in '08, do mention it in your e-mail.

In trying to be clear about what happened to set the boundary study, how could the planning phase group decide in March of 2010 going in that Clifton should be closed and not a part of the solution to help solve the boundary issues?

Trying to look objectively, but it seems like the agenda was set before the decision was made, even in the planning phase.
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Let's close Bob's school and see how EMOTIONAL he is!!

What a first class jerk.

As far as the question on why Clifton was eliminated early on....can you imagine one of the options being Keep Clifton open?

Of course everyone would have voted for that and then FCPS and snake in the grass Bradsher would have to explain why they went against the community's advice.

Their tactic was give 4 crappy options and have the public vote on THE LEAST WORST. Not the best-THE LEAST WORST.

Now they can say..."Look the public supports OPTION STUPID!".

Aren't we blessed to have these people running our schools?

http://blog.vivianpaige.com/2011/02/10/fairfax-schools-complain-about-following-foia-law/

Fairfax Schools complain about following FOIA law

By Mark Brooks

Elizabeth Schultz just wanted to find out information about a school that had been going to be renovated. The same school turned up listed for closure later, to the surprise of almost everyone. Clifton Elementary, in the Fairfax Public Schools system, is the school in question. She was concerned about decisions being made, and didn’t get satisfaction in asking the school system the questions she had. Ms. Schultz was surprised when the estimate for the information she asked for in a FOIA request came back at $624,000.

The request was revised and resubmitted to the schools administration. (In the comments following the Washington Post article about this situation is an entry by Ms. Schultz which tries to set straight the mistakes made by the author, which as of Wednesday night had been unaddressed. More on this later. I urge everyone to read the comments.)

The crux of the issue here is the requirement of public bodies (in this case, Fairfax Schools) to abide by the requirements of the Virginia Code (§2.2-3700), otherwise known as the Virginia Freedom of Information Act. The school administration claims in the article that 20,000 hours of work looking through 40,000 emails, at $31.00 an hour would be needed to fulfill the request. The complaints of the School Board are that it takes too much time and too many work hours to accomplish this.

In my dealings with local public bodies, both the Board of Supervisors and the School Board have been anywhere from horrible to lukewarm in their fulfillment of requests I and others have made of them. In all these dealings, years worth, I have never seen a figure like $31.00 per hour. There is no FOIA requirement to use a lesser paid employee, but boards and citizens are supposed to work together, at least in theory.

A point I would like to make here is that each public body is allowed by law, to charge for the information you or I request. The public body is constrained to only the actual cost of the time involved looking for and gathering the information, and copying it or printing it out. This would seem to run counter to the Fairfax School Board’s complaints about how much it costs to fulfill a citizen’s request.

“The law is unrealistic right now,†said Elizabeth T. Bradsher, a School Board member who represents Springfield. “It’s hampering the business of the school district. We don’t have the employees to handle the surge. . . . It’s crippling the system.†The school district’s allusion to the ballooning costs of processing FOIA requests – which officials called “substantial†but declined to quantify – is not embodied in any particular bill. But it is an issue that the district’s director of government relations, Michael Molloy, has taken with him to Richmond this year.

The School Board also has up to 12 days as a matter of course to produce what was asked for before they are required to go to court to ask for more time, and additional time within that 12 days to handle large requests.

The School Board in Cumberland County, at my request, has agreed that the amount they have charged for years is actually far above the actual cost. I am talking about the per page copying cost. Their cost has been $.35 per page, whether copied on a photocopier or out of a computer on a piece of paper. Their coming meeting in February will see a new policy in it’s first reading. The new cost per page? It will be $.15.

The Fairfax Board, according to this account, is complaining that it is just too hard, too time consuming to do the work required by law. I don’t live in Fairfax, and I have no opinion about what they should do with their schools. But this behavior detailed in the article, smacks of privilege and power unchecked.

And now, as promised, a few words about the author of this piece in the Washington Post, Kevin Sieff. I don’t like bashing people just for the hell of it. I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt. This goes for the traditional press as well as individuals. However, there are several things wrong with this article from my standpoint. The author seems to unnecessarily side with the Fairfax School Board in this article.

It is troubling because a subject like FOIA deserves a rational, well reasoned look, not an ignorance of the subject almost entirely. I don’t know the author, have never read any other of his articles. But I do know the FOIA law inside and out, and this wonderful tool, really the only tool citizens have to watch what really happens in our government, deserves to be given equal time in situations just like this. If the author knew that citizens pay through the nose sometimes (and he should, based on the $624,000 estimate) just to see what is really going on in our government, he would have (I hope) countered the quoted statements by officials which makes it seem as if the schools are having to do all this on their own dime.

The solution to this is real penalties, something not seen very often. The law provides for them, and they should be levied in order to get the word out that actions have consequences. It must be said that citizens do abuse the system sometimes. It is certainly the exception rather than the rule in my opinion.

In this case, the School Board’s inaction has brought them these troubles. The citizens will get the information, either in court, or as a result of Fairfax Schools doing the right thing and quitting the griping about doing their jobs. When contacted Tuesday evening about the article and its shortcomings, the author wrote back almost immediately and said, “I’m working to resolve this.â€

We’ll see. Doubtless the parents have contacted him as well.

I did not see an actual number of FOIAs that were processed-did FCPS give a figure?

They hinted that there was an explosive increase and they are just understaffed and unable to deal with so many requests.

Would someone at FCPS PLEASE give us a number?

According to FCPS detailed program budgets these are the number of FOIAs processed in the last three years:


1 year ending 9/30/2007 124
1 yesr ending 9/30/2008 149
1 year ending 9/30/2009 132

I would like to know the number thru 9/30/2010......anyone?

Agreed - a bunch of big fat liars - burning stacks of taxpayer moola at the same time they go cryin' like a bunch of weenies to the BoS for even more dollars.

PUT THE FOIA MATERIALS ON-LINE

They say by this that they have been legally on-time 100% of the time.

Prove it.

FY2010 FOIA Requests –
148 received, 130 processed on-time, 18 estimated fees declined

173,573 students / 40,000 employees per the Washington Post article means FCPS has bloated to 4 1/3 employees in the county for every single student.


Jack Dale could cut no fat.
His Board could make no lean.
And so betwixt the two of them
They picked your pockets clean.



Membership by Grade Level:
Kindergarten 11,829
Grade 1 12,471
Grade 2 12,188
Grade 3 12,084
Grade 4 12,121
Grade 5 12,038
Grade 6 11,983
Grade 7 11,833
Grade 8 11,568
Grade 9 12,148
Grade 10 11,879
Grade 11 11,928
Grade 12 11,507
Subtotal 155,577
Special Ed. Level 2 and Preschool 14,411
FECEP 1,288
Alternative 2,297
TOTAL 173,573

I'll work for half that, triple their output and still make out like a king.
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Save the Date!

November 8th

Party at Gatehouse

_____________________________________________________________
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Let's summarize......

FCPS says they are inundated with FOIAs and don't have the staff even though they charge people for them.

2009 FOIAs processed 132
2010 FOIAs processes 130

Ok, let me whip out my handy dandy calculator for this one.

132 minus 130 equals 2 fewer in 2010 than in 2009.

Damn, how did staff handle all those?

So nice to know who is running our schools-what a dishonest bunch. Is there anything that they are truthful about? They tell The Post that they are overburdened by FOIAs when they haven't increased in the last 3 years.

How many people work in that communications department anyways? 20?

At least the FOIAs give them something to do all day.

Lied to LRR too Wrote:
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> Save the Date!
>
> November 8th
>
> Party at Gatehouse
>
> __________________________________________________
> ___________

Who will the candidates be?
--

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> Lied to LRR too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Save the Date!
> >
> > November 8th
> >
> > Party at Gatehouse
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
> > ___________
>
> Who will the candidates be?
>
>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda — worse for our society. It’s as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was. — Keith Olbermann

LMFAO! Keith Olbermann and Jack Dale. An unintended connection, but too good to pass up.

Just about par for the course, these two. Let's just hope both stories have the same ending.

Jack Dale's version:
The public and advocates have really hurt us, but not as much as the Board of Supervisors has hurt us particularly in the case of their opinions. The Board of Supervisors' opinions are worse than Al Qaeda — worse for our society. They as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.

1 year ending 9/30/2007 = 124
1 year ending 9/30/2008 = 149
1 year ending 9/30/2009 = 132
1 year ending 9/30/2010 = 130

Sued 2008
Sued 2009
Sued 2010
Sued 2011


Given these stats, seems like the public has shown remarkable restraint.

Wouldn't it be great to know how much money they have collected? Who knows if that information is available and where?

And the Department of Communications and Community Outreach {public relations management} has around 36 employees. Worthy of an NYC marketing firm.

Will this woman stop at nothing?

Are they bringing all the CES kids to UMES just to set us up for a school on Union Mill Road anyway?

Widen the road? Can you believe this is how she has handled our concerns about traffic on the stretch of Union Mill?
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Pretty unprofessional on FCPS' part. LOL and a smiley face? They should hire more engineers, and less of these folk. If you bring more traffic to Union Mill, esp. via widening, you are just asking for more accidents down Compton (even curvier, and several young kids have lost their lives on that one, as well as on Union Mill) and Twin Lakes (very scary - and cyclists take this one often) - several blind curves, no shoulders.

Not to mention some of the grisly accidents that I've seen at the intersection of Braddock, New Braddock, and Union Mill. I think the hill down from New Braddock just encourages people to beat the amber. These streets just weren't meant for this kind of traffic, and increasing the size of the schools will only make it worse. Evidently, FCPS and the BOS don't really care.

So who does Payton Onk work for? Is it Herrity or Albo? However it is, with a-holes like this working for them, they've lost my vote.

Screams at parents on the phone.

Screams at kids.

Screams at elected officials.

Disparages people in the community.

Disparages PTA Presidents and members.

Disparages fellow School Board members.

Colludes to get Clifton closed.

Colludes to get capital improvement queue moved around.

Bradsher is not our friend either.

Boosters Beware.

Do you think you could assist me with planning a meeting with Bill
Curran and area HS Booster Reps. In the past I have had meetings with
these Reps on the Athletic Fee. Since it is Budget time I thought it
might be a good time to reassess the budget as it relates to these fees
with the Booster Reps. Deb kept a file of email and names for this
meeting. I think it is somewhere in that office!

Call and we can discuss further. I copied Bill on this as well.
Many thanks,
Liz

Elizabeth T. Bradsher
Fairfax County School Board
Springfield District
Phone: (571) 296-1875
Melanie Turpin, Executive Administrative Assistant
Phone: (571) 423-1070

The post article shows your true colors about how you treat kids under your care in FCPS. We have always had to sign our kids rights away to go FCPS.

You now all have blood on your hands.

I think you should give up now. Resign please. You will do the county a big favor.