because..... Wrote:
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> Because Westfield loved for 10 years to say how
> dominant they were and kept running their
> mouths....tide has assuredly turned over the last
> four years.....what goes around comes around.....


You are so wrong. Westfield fans in my experience showed and show far more class than the Centreville fans.

Turner hurt. No Boose. -- what happened to both of them? Out for next week?

Was there a game today?

I agree that the Westfield fans are the worst....good they have been knocked down a couple rungs the last few years!

Sex with high school football players is the BEST!

Good team win baby!

Game ball to Tyler Love.....they should make a training reel on him from today's game on the proper art of tackling!!!!

what a game by Love!!

Can a team lose four regional championship games in a row and still be considered elite?

Discuss.....

Re: High School Football 2014

Posted by: Coffee talk ()

Date: December 06, 2014 07:39PM


Can a team lose four regional championship games in a row and still be considered elite?

Discuss.....


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Of course elite just not elite enough

Ignore the childish squabbling and taunts.

This was yet another great game and Westfield fought hard to the very end and they should be proud of an outstanding season. Centreville simply had the superstar players and they made the plays necessary to win the game. For Westfield to take the defending State Champs - with 15 returning starters - to the brink is nothing to be ashamed of.

Congratulations to Centreville and good luck at the finals!

Ok Dad I am sorry

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Ignore the childish squabbling and taunts.
>
> This was yet another great game and Westfield
> fought hard to the very end and they should be
> proud of an outstanding season. Centreville
> simply had the superstar players and they made the
> plays necessary to win the game. For Westfield to
> take the defending State Champs - with 15
> returning starters - to the brink is nothing to be
> ashamed of.
>
> Congratulations to Centreville and good luck at
> the finals!


Yep. It will be interesting next year when Centreville isn't returning their stars.

Of course the stars leave next year along with the stars of Westfield and the other teams. Lake Braddock seems to have the most coming back.

But here is the point. During the last four years Centreville has been the class of the North. I suspect they will be very competitive going forward and will win their share, but not nearly as good as last two years. But do you think ANYONE will be as good going forward as Cville the last two years.....don't think so.

Really? Were we at the same game? Haddock's coaching was a nightmare. He tried to outthink Westfield and just looked silly with his play calling. In the first half CVille had to call at least one timeout and almost another as the CVille QB was confused on his play calling.

Westfield's defense did a great job as they only let up 2 offensive TD's but CVille did what they had to and Tyler Love came up HUUUUGGE!!

Is Taylor Boose done or might he come back? Think they will need him to take some pressure off of Turner if they want to take states. Ocean Lakes is very good.

Great job, two trips to states in two years!

I agree with a previous comment, Tyler Love maybe player of the game. What a difference it is with him back. AJ certainly their best player but still was huge for Love to come back.

And...what a different without Boose still. CV could not run inside. WF plays great D, but missing Boose really evens things up.

I thought the PI call was a joke, but I was on CV side so who knows.

Scoville very impressive. Scanlon too.

As far as poor fans...that argument will never end. But if you heard the CV announcer remind the fans over and over about not going on the field after the game, I can't help feel that was in direct response to the classless WF students who stormed the CV field after they beat CV in OT a couple years ago.

Didn't realize that wasn't Scoville at QB at the end. Maybe they switched to a QB with a better arm to go for a Hail Mary? There were some questionable WF injuries that stopped the clock in the last two minutes, the player claiming to be injured has to sit out a play I believe. But I don't think that was Scoville.

Yes CV has "superstar" players, Turner and Boose in particular. But Boose didn't play. WF clearly was better at QB, WR, and defensive line. RB's Turner and Gray probably pretty even.

Ocean Lakes certainly the favorite next week. But so was Oscar Smith last year.

VTboy Wrote:
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> Didn't realize that wasn't Scoville at QB at the
> end. Maybe they switched to a QB with a better arm
> to go for a Hail Mary? There were some
> questionable WF injuries that stopped the clock in
> the last two minutes, the player claiming to be
> injured has to sit out a play I believe. But I
> don't think that was Scoville.

The only injury was to Gray and that was obviously legit. The refs had a long discussion and then came over and told Simmons they had to take Scoville out. Not being an expert on HS football rules I'm sure it was some arcane ruling.

I have to disagree - Tutt a better WR than anyone on Westfield. That jump ball catch on 3rd and long pretty much sealed the win for Centreville. I'd rate that pretty close to the play of the day.

If you ask me, the secondary should get the game ball. After the torching they took last time to only give up one passing TD is huge. Great Job DB's!!

Cville Seecondary Wrote:
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> If you ask me, the secondary should get the game
> ball. After the torching they took last time to
> only give up one passing TD is huge. Great Job
> DB's!!


All in all it was a great team win. Btw, was that Nickens-Yzer at the DB position? What position cant he play? He doesn't get a lot of attention but he quietly does his thing.

VTboy Wrote:
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> I agree with a previous comment, Tyler Love maybe
> player of the game. What a difference it is with
> him back. AJ certainly their best player but
> still was huge for Love to come back.
>
> And...what a different without Boose still. CV
> could not run inside. WF plays great D, but
> missing Boose really evens things up.
>
> I thought the PI call was a joke, but I was on CV
> side so who knows.
>
> Scoville very impressive. Scanlon too.
>
> As far as poor fans...that argument will never
> end. But if you heard the CV announcer remind the
> fans over and over about not going on the field
> after the game, I can't help feel that was in
> direct response to the classless WF students who
> stormed the CV field after they beat CV in OT a
> couple years ago.
>
> Didn't realize that wasn't Scoville at QB at the
> end. Maybe they switched to a QB with a better arm
> to go for a Hail Mary? There were some
> questionable WF injuries that stopped the clock in
> the last two minutes, the player claiming to be
> injured has to sit out a play I believe. But I
> don't think that was Scoville.
>
> Yes CV has "superstar" players, Turner and Boose
> in particular. But Boose didn't play. WF clearly
> was better at QB, WR, and defensive line. RB's
> Turner and Gray probably pretty even.
>
> Ocean Lakes certainly the favorite next week. But
> so was Oscar Smith last year.


Scoville lost his helmet and had to sit out one play. That is why #15 was in for last play

Fuck Westfield!

They talk so much shit and lose every time it matters! I called this from the beginning of the year and here we are. Centreville going to States again while Westfield turns their shit in. All you had to do was see the way Simmons handled the last minute of the game to realize how stupid this guy is. 30 something seconds to go Scoville gets his helmet knocked off, so he has to come out for a play, instead of calling his last timeout he lets the clock run down to 13 seconds AND THEN CALLS A TIMEOUT. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!

CvilleBacker Wrote:
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> I called this from the beginning of the
> year and here we are. Centreville going to States
> again while Westfield turns their shit in.

Wow. You really went out on a limb there. No one saw that coming.

CvilleBacker Wrote:
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> Fuck Westfield!
>
> They talk so much shit and lose every time it
> matters! I called this from the beginning of the
> year and here we are. Centreville going to States
> again while Westfield turns their shit in. All
> you had to do was see the way Simmons handled the
> last minute of the game to realize how stupid this
> guy is. 30 something seconds to go Scoville gets
> his helmet knocked off, so he has to come out for
> a play, instead of calling his last timeout he
> lets the clock run down to 13 seconds AND THEN
> CALLS A TIMEOUT. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!


Say what you want about Simmons. Yes, maybe the guy made a questionable decision or two, but he coached the whole year while battling and undergoing treatment for cancer. He never missed a game or practice and anyone who has seen him knows how sick he has been. Cut the guy a break. He rolls a new team (hardly ever any D1 talent) every year and wins 12 games and they play with class. In my opinion one of the main reasons they have lost these regional games (other than last year they have all been close) is they don't have the D1 kids who make a difference in these games. The 2011 year was probably the best overall team because they had a bunch of seniors who played together for awhile. Nobody expected 2012 when they had 20 new starters and a QB who played tight end the year before. In 13 and 14 they were beat by a team with superior elite talent. My point, Simmons and the coaching staff get the most out of their talent. I am disappointed for them but good luck to Centreville.

Looks like we have a Westfield fan that has CVille Derangement Syndrome....

Symptoms include:

(1) Inability now to walk around with snobbish nose in the air like mid 2000s when the going was good and entitlement set in
(2) Sudden loss of mental capacity to understand difference between win in October and win in December
(3) Due to the problems coping, said patient desperately clings to the I Believe Chant at the start of every game with other sufferers of the malady

Recommendation - make a doctors appt next Saturday afternoon to get checked out as your time is free then

We still have a better basketball team

On the basketball team, who gives a shit - this is football country

Hey Hey Hey I do. Why cant CV do anything else good besides football?

Those guys at gamedaymagazine do a real good job:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mExmKBw78k

Fat Albert Wrote:
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> Hey Hey Hey I do. Why cant CV do anything else
> good besides football?

Centreville's demographics are like the eastern Fairfax County's demographics, but the schools they compete against in the Concorde don't have the same demographics.

Also, Centreville is the smallest or maybe second-smallest school in the Concordem aka Conference 5. No secret that Westfield is the largest school and thus the largest pool to draw from.

Congrats Centreville, great win and another Northern Region Championship!!!!!

Get a second ring in a row Wildcats!

Congrats to both CVille and Westfield for playing a reasonably error free game given the sloppy conditions. And thank god for the turf, that game on grass would have been a debacle.

It's Demographics Wrote:
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> Fat Albert Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Hey Hey I do. Why cant CV do anything else
> > good besides football?
>
> Centreville's demographics are like the eastern
> Fairfax County's demographics, but the schools
> they compete against in the Concorde don't have
> the same demographics.

Incorrect. They are trending that way but not nearly there yet. And they are not the only Concorde District school with non-football-friendly demographics. Last years numbers for your review:

% White
Robinson 59%
Oakton 58%
Chantilly 48%
Westfield 43%
Herndon 42%
Centreville 40%

% Asian
Centreville 31%
Chantilly 27%
Oakton 23%
Westfield 21%
Robinson 16%
Herndon 12%

% Hispanic
Herndon 32%
Westfield 18%
Centreville 15%
Robinson 13%
Chantilly 13%
Oakton 4%

% Black
Westfield 11%
Herndon 8%
Centreville 8%
Chantilly 6%
Robinson 5%
Oakton 4%



> Also, Centreville is the smallest or maybe
> second-smallest school in the Concordem aka
> Conference 5. No secret that Westfield is the
> largest school and thus the largest pool to draw
> from.

Also, incorrect. I know it is hard to get out of the 2000s but this is 2014 and the boundary adjustments in 2009 changed things. Current 2014 enrollment:

Robinson 2790
Chantilly 2692
Westfield 2682
Centreville 2435
Herndon 2267
Oakton 2267

Say goodbye to high school football anyway in the near future with concussion litigation, changing demographics, etc.

Westfield Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> It's Demographics Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fat Albert Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hey Hey Hey I do. Why cant CV do anything
> else
> > > good besides football?
> >
> > Centreville's demographics are like the eastern
> > Fairfax County's demographics, but the schools
> > they compete against in the Concorde don't have
> > the same demographics.
>
> Incorrect. They are trending that way but not
> nearly there yet. And they are not the only
> Concorde District school with
> non-football-friendly demographics. Last years
> numbers for your review:
>
> % White
> Robinson 59%
> Oakton 58%
> Chantilly 48%
> Westfield 43%
> Herndon 42%
> Centreville 40%
>
> % Asian
> Centreville 31%
> Chantilly 27%
> Oakton 23%
> Westfield 21%
> Robinson 16%
> Herndon 12%
>
> % Hispanic
> Herndon 32%
> Westfield 18%
> Centreville 15%
> Robinson 13%
> Chantilly 13%
> Oakton 4%
>
> % Black
> Westfield 11%
> Herndon 8%
> Centreville 8%
> Chantilly 6%
> Robinson 5%
> Oakton 4%
>
>
>
> > Also, Centreville is the smallest or maybe
> > second-smallest school in the Concordem aka
> > Conference 5. No secret that Westfield is the
> > largest school and thus the largest pool to
> draw
> > from.
>
> Also, incorrect. I know it is hard to get out of
> the 2000s but this is 2014 and the boundary
> adjustments in 2009 changed things. Current 2014
> enrollment:
>
> Robinson 2790
> Chantilly 2692
> Westfield 2682
> Centreville 2435
> Herndon 2267
> Oakton 2267


CV might be smaller than WF but these #s are not current or wrong.

Also, CV is a 6 out of 10 on greatschools.net Kids must be taking too many headshots in contact sports

Still have one of the worst bball programs in NoVA no matter what excuse you can come up with

WF Wrote:
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> CV might be smaller than WF but these #s are not
> current or wrong.


All data right from FCPS. Check it yourself:
http://commweb.fcps.edu/directory/

CV has high retard #s and 25% free lunches; that's a lot of kids on the short bus and not getting anything for Christmas, Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa.

football is dead Wrote:
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> Say goodbye to high school football anyway in the
> near future with concussion litigation, changing
> demographics, etc.

True. The left is trying as hard as they can to get rid of football. Today's salvo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/concussions-and-depression-questions-renewed-over-whether-theres-a-link/2014/12/06/1bbc8c3c-7c8e-11e4-8241-8cc0a3670239_story.html

Westfield Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> True. The left is trying as hard as they can to
> get rid of football. Today's salvo:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/concussions-a
> nd-depression-questions-renewed-over-whether-there
> s-a-link/2014/12/06/1bbc8c3c-7c8e-11e4-8241-8cc0a3
> 670239_story.html

The left? WTF? How is this a "left" thing? Was making seatbelts mandatory a "left" thing? Drinking age 21 a "left" thing? Abolishing slavery a "left" thing"? What a moron.

Left? Wrote:
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> Westfield Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > True. The left is trying as hard as they can
> to
> > get rid of football. Today's salvo:
> >
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/concussions-a
>
> >
> nd-depression-questions-renewed-over-whether-there
>
> >
> s-a-link/2014/12/06/1bbc8c3c-7c8e-11e4-8241-8cc0a3
>
> > 670239_story.html
>
> The left? WTF? How is this a "left" thing? Was
> making seatbelts mandatory a "left" thing?
> Drinking age 21 a "left" thing? Abolishing
> slavery a "left" thing"? What a moron.


You really are a fucking moron aren't you! Are you really trying to equate abolishing Slavery with making wearing seat belts mandatory? You must be from Westfield!

Bulldawg Wrote:
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> VTboy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree with a previous comment, Tyler Love
> maybe
> > player of the game. What a difference it is
> with
> > him back. AJ certainly their best player but
> > still was huge for Love to come back.
> >
> > And...what a different without Boose still. CV
> > could not run inside. WF plays great D, but
> > missing Boose really evens things up.
> >
> > I thought the PI call was a joke, but I was on
> CV
> > side so who knows.
> >
> > Scoville very impressive. Scanlon too.
> >
> > As far as poor fans...that argument will never
> > end. But if you heard the CV announcer remind
> the
> > fans over and over about not going on the field
> > after the game, I can't help feel that was in
> > direct response to the classless WF students
> who
> > stormed the CV field after they beat CV in OT a
> > couple years ago.
> >
> > Didn't realize that wasn't Scoville at QB at
> the
> > end. Maybe they switched to a QB with a better
> arm
> > to go for a Hail Mary? There were some
> > questionable WF injuries that stopped the clock
> in
> > the last two minutes, the player claiming to be
> > injured has to sit out a play I believe. But I
> > don't think that was Scoville.
> >
> > Yes CV has "superstar" players, Turner and
> Boose
> > in particular. But Boose didn't play. WF
> clearly
> > was better at QB, WR, and defensive line. RB's
> > Turner and Gray probably pretty even.
> >
> > Ocean Lakes certainly the favorite next week.
> But
> > so was Oscar Smith last year.
>
>
> Scoville lost his helmet and had to sit out one
> play. That is why #15 was in for last play

Hmm, sounds like what happened to Lake Braddock last year against Westfield . . .

Westfield Derangement Syndrome Wrote:
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> Incorrect. They are trending that way but not
> nearly there yet. And they are not the only
> Concorde District school with
> non-football-friendly demographics. Last years
> numbers for your review:
>
> % White
> Robinson 59%
> Oakton 58%
> Chantilly 48%
> Westfield 43%
> Herndon 42%
> Centreville 40%
>
> % Asian
> Centreville 31%
> Chantilly 27%
> Oakton 23%
> Westfield 21%
> Robinson 16%
> Herndon 12%
>
> % Hispanic
> Herndon 32%
> Westfield 18%
> Centreville 15%
> Robinson 13%
> Chantilly 13%
> Oakton 4%
>
> % Black
> Westfield 11%
> Herndon 8%
> Centreville 8%
> Chantilly 6%
> Robinson 5%
> Oakton 4%
>
>
>
> > Also, Centreville is the smallest or maybe
> > second-smallest school in the Concordem aka
> > Conference 5. No secret that Westfield is the
> > largest school and thus the largest pool to
> draw
> > from.
>
> Also, incorrect. I know it is hard to get out of
> the 2000s but this is 2014 and the boundary
> adjustments in 2009 changed things. Current 2014
> enrollment:
>
> Robinson 2790
> Chantilly 2692
> Westfield 2682
> Centreville 2435
> Herndon 2267
> Oakton 2267


Thanks...interesting info. Yes I am still living in the Westfield-Glennon years when Westfield had 3000+ kids and was the largest high school in the state.

But yep CV is trending that direction. Interestingly, CV historically has better success with the girls sports than the boys.

Westfield rules yes Wrote:
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> We still have a better basketball team

Why did Scanlon transfer back to Westfield? And he's allowed to remain a Junior even though this is his 4th year of high school?

Conf5 Wrote:
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> Turner hurt. No Boose. -- what happened to both of
> them? Out for next week?

Anyone know Boose's status? They really missed him Saturday. Sprained knee right?

Status? Wrote:
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> Conf5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Turner hurt. No Boose. -- what happened to both
> of
> > them? Out for next week?
>
> Anyone know Boose's status? They really missed
> him Saturday. Sprained knee right?

BOOOOOOSE will be back for the State Championship Game!!!

^^^ is this a fact? They will need him to keep the attach balanced. It will be interesting to see what happens. Last year it was a matter of how much Oscar Smith was going to win by. Centreville was clearly just a fast and better all over the board. Centreville has a chance to really make their make in VA highschool football. Back to back state champs will be something special...

Basketball Wrote:
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> Why did Scanlon transfer back to Westfield?

Why don't you ask him? Something must be going on at PVI because a lot of players have left the basketball program.
http://www.dcsportsfan.com/forums/thread/15311-transfers-and-the-state-of-pvi-hoops/

Maybe that DB coach can come over to SOCO, they need a new one bad!!

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> RydelllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RydelllRoad Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > RydelllRoad Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > RydelllRoad Wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > After 4 weeks my 6A North
> > ranking
> > > of
> > > > > top
> > > > > > teams
> > > > > > > is:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Centreville #1
> > > > > > > Robinson #2
> > > > > > > Lake Braddock #3
> > > > > > > South County #4
> > > > > > > Patriot #5
> > > > > > > Battlefield #6
> > > > > > > Westfield #7
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My New Rankings after Week 5:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Centreville #1
> > > > > > Robinson #2
> > > > > > Lake Braddock #3
> > > > > > South County #4
> > > > > > Westfield #5
> > > > > > Battlefield #6
> > > > > > Patriot #7
> > > > >
> > > > > Ranking after Week 7:
> > > > > Centreville #1
> > > > > Westfield #2
> > > > > Robinson #3
> > > > > Lake Braddock #4
> > > > > South County #5
> > > > > Battlefield #6
> > > > > Patriot #7
> > > > >
> > > > > Not going by wins and losses - just who
> and
> > > how
> > > > > they have played. Centreville will be OK
> -
> > > > > especially when they get everyone healthy.
>
> > > > > Westfield very very impressive in that
> > upset
> > > > over
> > > > > Centreville. I probably have South County
> > too
> > > > low
> > > > > but they just haven't played anybody yet.
>
> > > > > Perfectly willing to rank them higher but
> > > they
> > > > > have to get a big win over a top team
> > first.
> > > >
> > > > Ranking after Week 8:
> > > >
> > > > Centreville #1 (not a particularly
> impressive
> > > win
> > > > over a weak Oakton, but this was their 4th
> > > shutout
> > > > win of the season)
> > > > Westfield #2 (looked very good again vs.
> > > > previously undefeated Robinson - if Evan
> Gray
> > > > hadn't gotten hurt early this could have
> been
> > a
> > > > +28 pt blowout)
> > > > South County #3 (with LB slipping badly, we
> > > won't
> > > > know how good SoCo is until the playoffs)
> > > > Robinson #4 (a tough, disciplined and
> > > well-coached
> > > > team. was favorably impressed with their
> > > > performance against Westfield w/o their
> > > starting
> > > > QB)
> > > > Battlefield #5 (have not seen them play -
> but
> > > they
> > > > have had a better performance than Patriot
> > > against
> > > > all common opponents)
> > > > Patriot #6 (have not seen them play - still
> > > > kicking myself for missing the
> Hylton-Patriot
> > > game
> > > > - i was on my way but the wife forced me
> into
> > > > other plans)
> > > > Lake Braddock #7 (surely will beat T.C. W
> and
> > > Lee
> > > > but will they make it a game against SC)
> > >
> > >Ranking after Week 9:
> > >
> > > 1. Centreville
> > > 2. Westfield
> > > 3. South County
> > > 4. Battlefield
> > > 5. Robinson
> > > 6. Patriot
> > > 7. Lake Braddock
> > > 8. Hayfield
> > > 9. West Springfield
> >
> > Ranking after Week 10:
> >
> > 1. Centreville (only because a: they are the
> > defending 6A North champs and b: if Turner,
> Tutt
> > and Boose are all healthy they are hands down
> the
> > team to beat)
> > 2. Westfield (very close second, they beat
> > Centreville and if you look at games against
> > common opponents - Hayfield, Herndon, Oakton -
> > their performance is right in line with
> > Centreville. Unlike last year)
> > 3. Lake Braddock (impressive wins over
> Westfield
> > and SoCo, knew I had them ranked too low last
> > week)
> > 4. Battlefield (ahead of SoCo because I think
> > they are a more disciplined team with a better
> > defense)
> > 5. South County (doubters were right, so
> far...
> > SoCo will have a chance in the playoffs)
> > 6. Patriot (kinda reminds me of South County)
> >
> > Realistically, you gotta think the 6A North
> > champion will come from this group. South
> County
> > (62) and Patriot (66) have both had games this
> > year where they let up over 60 points.
> Something
> > tells me no team that has done that is going to
> > the state championship game.
>
> Ranking after Week
> 11:
>
>
> 1. Centreville
> 2. Westfield
> 3. Lake Braddock
> 4. South County
>
> That's my prediction for the final 4. We get a
> Centreville-SoCo and a Westfield-LB playoff
> rematch.
>
> In my opinion, Centreville a heavy favorite over
> any team they play.

I correctly had Centreville ranked as the #1 team all year. That was obvious so no kudos for sticking with them needed.

Personally I think Westfield out-performed their talent once again - can't believe folks are on here are knocking their coaching. I think the best coaching staff in 6A North. Showed dramatic improvement in play over the course of the season. They have won 47 games in the last four years with all of maybe 3 marginal D1 players over that time span.

I was suckered into picking SoCo over Battlefield - should have known better... SoCo fans will have to wait another season for their signature playoff win.

Lake Braddock had a very strong program for the second straight year. If Alexander hadn't gotten hurt probably would have made the Westfield game closer although I still think Westfield would have won the re-match.

After watching the Centreville-Patriot game - I can see that the most explosive playoff match would have been SoCo v. Patriot. That would have been a fun 67-64 game.

CvilleBacker Wrote:
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> Fuck Westfield!
>
> They talk so much shit and lose every time it
> matters! I called this from the beginning of the
> year and here we are. Centreville going to States
> again while Westfield turns their shit in. All
> you had to do was see the way Simmons handled the
> last minute of the game to realize how stupid this
> guy is. 30 something seconds to go Scoville gets
> his helmet knocked off, so he has to come out for
> a play, instead of calling his last timeout he
> lets the clock run down to 13 seconds AND THEN
> CALLS A TIMEOUT. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!

Don't know what is with the Simmons haters out there...I think almost every school in the County would be ecstatic to have Westfield's success the last 5 years. Hard enough taking over a program that had standards set so high, but he has continued that success with talent probably a little below what Verbanic had (3 future NFL players at his disposal), and a smaller student population to draw from. This year he is battling cancer. Give him a break, the last 30 seconds were probably chaotic. It's certainly not his fault they lost, that game could have gone either way.

VTboy Wrote:
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> CvilleBacker Wrote:
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> -----
> > Fuck Westfield!
> >
> > They talk so much shit and lose every time it
> > matters! I called this from the beginning of
> the
> > year and here we are. Centreville going to
> States
> > again while Westfield turns their shit in. All
> > you had to do was see the way Simmons handled
> the
> > last minute of the game to realize how stupid
> this
> > guy is. 30 something seconds to go Scoville
> gets
> > his helmet knocked off, so he has to come out
> for
> > a play, instead of calling his last timeout he
> > lets the clock run down to 13 seconds AND THEN
> > CALLS A TIMEOUT. WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!
>
> Don't know what is with the Simmons haters out
> there...I think almost every school in the County
> would be ecstatic to have Westfield's success the
> last 5 years. Hard enough taking over a program
> that had standards set so high, but he has
> continued that success with talent probably a
> little below what Verbanic had (3 future NFL
> players at his disposal), and a smaller student
> population to draw from. This year he is battling
> cancer. Give him a break, the last 30 seconds
> were probably chaotic. It's certainly not his
> fault they lost, that game could have gone either
> way.


WOULDA SHOULDA COULDA ...the theme line for Westfield the last 4 years!
The bottom line is all that talent and NO Championships! Best Coaching staff my ass.... Win meaningless Regular season games and then BLOW the Championship games... Give him a break the last 30 seconds were chaotic??? REALLY are you fucking serious.. Everyone in the stands knew what was going on and were laughing at the ineptitude of this so called Coaching Staff...

NovaFootballfan Wrote:
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> WOULDA SHOULDA COULDA ...the theme line for
> Westfield the last 4 years!
> The bottom line is all that talent and NO
> Championships! Best Coaching staff my ass.... Win
> meaningless Regular season games and then BLOW the
> Championship games... Give him a break the last 30
> seconds were chaotic??? REALLY are you fucking
> serious.. Everyone in the stands knew what was
> going on and were laughing at the ineptitude of
> this so called Coaching Staff...

I beg to differ that regular season games are meaningless. That reflects badly on your comprehension of rivalry and powerpoint accumulation. Do you really think the kids and parents that went to 20 home games the last four years think going 19-1 at home is meaningless? A lot of highly entertaining and intensely exciting action.

No championships? I guess Westfield winning the Concorde District/Conference 5 championship in 2011, 2012 and 2014 (unquestionably the toughest conference in the state) didn't happen?

True - no regional or state championships - but I am not convinced they had all this talent that no one else had. Oakton in 2012 is really the game they should have won. 2011 and 2014 could have gone either way. 2013 they had no chance.

Now regarding clock management - yes, it was without a doubt a blunder to squander 17 seconds for no apparent reason and I did hear a lot folks going nuts about it. But if I were a betting man I'd say those 17 seconds would not have made a difference if given back. Bottom line: just like you wouldn't bench your star QB over 1 lousy interception, you shouldn't bench your coach over one game management miscue.

And lastly if I may... it's only kids and high school football.

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> NovaFootballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > WOULDA SHOULDA COULDA ...the theme line for
> > Westfield the last 4 years!
> > The bottom line is all that talent and NO
> > Championships! Best Coaching staff my ass....
> Win
> > meaningless Regular season games and then BLOW
> the
> > Championship games... Give him a break the last
> 30
> > seconds were chaotic??? REALLY are you fucking
> > serious.. Everyone in the stands knew what was
> > going on and were laughing at the ineptitude of
> > this so called Coaching Staff...
>
> I beg to differ that regular season games are
> meaningless. That reflects badly on your
> comprehension of rivalry and powerpoint
> accumulation. Do you really think the kids and
> parents that went to 20 home games the last four
> years think going 19-1 at home is meaningless? A
> lot of highly entertaining and intensely exciting
> action.
>
> No championships? I guess Westfield winning the
> Concorde District/Conference 5 championship in
> 2011, 2012 and 2014 (unquestionably the toughest
> conference in the state) didn't happen?
>
> True - no regional or state championships - but I
> am not convinced they had all this talent that no
> one else had. Oakton in 2012 is really the game
> they should have won. 2011 and 2014 could
> have gone either way. 2013 they had no chance.
>
> Now regarding clock management - yes, it was
> without a doubt a blunder to squander 17 seconds
> for no apparent reason and I did hear a lot folks
> going nuts about it. But if I were a betting man
> I'd say those 17 seconds would not have made a
> difference if given back. Bottom line: just like
> you wouldn't bench your star QB over 1 lousy
> interception, you shouldn't bench your coach over
> one game management miscue.
>
> And lastly if I may... it's only kids and high
> school football.


"And lastly if I may... it's only kids and high school football."


AND HERE YOU ARE COMMENTING ON IT!!!

Newgate Denizen is the consistent voice of reason on this thread. Always balanced and accurate comments. most of the others on here with the smart ass comments have likely never played the game. I am a Westfield fan but kudos to the Centreville players for getting the better of them. I will continue to enjoy the 12-1 seasons, eventually this coaching staff will break through. My kid played for them for 4 years and they are among the best, on and off the field. I will be cheering for the Concorde District to beat the Beach. Good luck.

If you are looking for rationality on a site like this you wont find it.....CVille has mostly good, reasonable people with its share of dicks as does Wfield, Oakton, any other. Always has been always will be. Heck most of the time one does not know if someone calling themselves a CVille Supporter or Westfield Fan is really that or just someone looking to get a rise out of people.

Peace Out

From Ocean Lakes...guess they don't know about AJ! (And don't know Boose is hurt)
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Who's gonna win Saturday?

DJO Wrote:
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> O'Connnell Knights Wrote:
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> > Looking at O'Connell's schedule I see them
> going
> > 5-5 with wins over PVI, Ireton, St.
> Christopher,
> > Fork Union, & Carroll. Worst case is 1-5 in the
> > WCAC but with Carroll being the only win, but
> who
> > knows how the season will go?
> >
> >
> > Fri, 08/29/14
> > 7:00PM @ Paul VI Catholic
> >
> > Sat, 09/06/14
> > 2:00PM vs. Bishop Ireton
> >
> > Sat, 09/13/14
> > 2:00PM vs. St. Christopher's School
> >
> > Sat, 09/20/14
> > 3:00PM @ Fork Union Military Academy
> >
> > Sat, 09/27/14
> > 2:00PM @ Archbishop Carroll
> >
> > Sat, 10/04/14
> > 2:00PM vs. St. John's
> >
> > Sat, 10/11/14
> > 3:00PM vs. DeMatha
> >
> > Sat, 10/18/14
> > 2:00PM @ Gonzaga
> >
> > Sat, 10/25/14
> > Bye Week
> >
> > Fri, 10/31/14
> > 7:00PM @ Good Counsel
> >
> > Sat, 11/08/14
> > 2:00PM @ Bishop McNamara
>
>
> A 5-5 record (which would be the third year in a
> row they've gone 5-5) would be a good guess. In
> terms of the specific games you have predicted for
> them, they have a decent chance of beating
> MacNamara, though I would slightly favor Mac in
> that game. On the other hand, I think St.
> Christopher's would give them a better game than
> some might think St. Christoper's JV team beat
> O'Connell's JV team last year, and O' Connell's
> strength was their departed senior class.
>
> I agree with you that PVI, Ireton, Fork Union, and
> Carroll are wins, and SJC, DeMatha, Gonzaga, and
> Good Counsel are losses.

Turns out that all of us (myself included) who predicted a 5-5 record nailed it. What I didn't do so well is predict how they would fare in individual games. On the plus side of the ledger, they did much better this year in games against SJC, DeMatha and Good Counsel as compared to the year before. SJC turns out to be a bad comparison, because they ended up not making the playoffs. Good Counsel is also not a good comparison, because Good Counsel rested a lot of their starters against DJO, as they had the #1 seed wrapped up.

On the minus side, they had a much harder time with Ireton and Carroll than last year. Other minuses include barely beating Fork Union (who should have been handled easily), and PVI (Which has really declined in football) playing them closer than the final score would indicate (the last three TDs came in garbage time in the 4th quarter). The biggest minus was getting blown out by McNamara, which is a game that I expected DJO to win handily.

I understand that not all is happy at DJO. They expected playoffs this season, and arguably took a step back. I also understand that their OC was made out to be the scapegoat for this lack of performance, and is no longer with the coaching staff. I'm not sure it's justified; it wasn't his offense that gave up 52 points against McNamara.

Return of Love, Turner, Sends Wildcats Back to Charlottesville for State Title Game

http://centrevilleindependent.com/cvhs-football-game/

6A North Coaches All-Region Team

https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/914/1631879.pdf

Great Preview of the Ocean Lakes-Centreville Title Game:

https://virginiapreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1714306

Good luck Wildcats!!!

I would say Centreville would be considered about the same size underdog this year as they were against Oscar Smith in 2013. I have no idea how this game will turn out.

just a thought Wrote:
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> I would say Centreville would be considered about
> the same size underdog this year as they were
> against Oscar Smith in 2013. I have no idea how
> this game will turn out.

I went to the game last year...Oscar Smith was ranked highly based on their name and the 4 juniors/seniors who were D1 caliber. The rest of the team was average.

This year looks like a different story. Not only does Ocean Lakes have 4 D1 (and high D1 schools) caliber players, but their running back is 240 lbs. Last week they used their sophomore 260 lb DT as a running back as well, all he did is have 4 TDs and over 100 yds. He even made a HS freshman all-america team last year (didn't know there was such a thing).

I think CV will have a tough time stopping them. These guys are big and fast, and more balanced than Oscar Smith was last year. Maybe more importantly, they have an experienced QB, where Oscar Smith had a freshman QB who perhaps wasn't ready for the big stage.

Hate to say it, unless Haddock finds a way to stop the run, this is looking like a three TD or more blowout win for OL. I hope it's not.

Uh-Oh Wrote:
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> just a thought Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would say Centreville would be considered
> about
> > the same size underdog this year as they were
> > against Oscar Smith in 2013. I have no idea how
> > this game will turn out.
>
> I went to the game last year...Oscar Smith was
> ranked highly based on their name and the 4
> juniors/seniors who were D1 caliber. The rest of
> the team was average.
>
> This year looks like a different story. Not only
> does Ocean Lakes have 4 D1 (and high D1 schools)
> caliber players, but their running back is 240
> lbs. Last week they used their sophomore 260 lb
> DT as a running back as well, all he did is have 4
> TDs and over 100 yds. He even made a HS freshman
> all-america team last year (didn't know there was
> such a thing).
>
> I think CV will have a tough time stopping them.
> These guys are big and fast, and more balanced
> than Oscar Smith was last year. Maybe more
> importantly, they have an experienced QB, where
> Oscar Smith had a freshman QB who perhaps wasn't
> ready for the big stage.
>
> Hate to say it, unless Haddock finds a way to stop
> the run, this is looking like a three TD or more
> blowout win for OL. I hope it's not.

Somewhat agree with you. I think Gonzaga had more D1 players. We probably were not going to win that game but could have kept it closer. I thought we battled well.

We will have to play our A game and hope Ocean Lakes struggles. Not sure it would be a 3TD loss but also not sure we are good enough to win

I think with their DB's, our little passing game will really struggle.

Uh-Oh Wrote:
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> just a thought Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would say Centreville would be considered
> about
> > the same size underdog this year as they were
> > against Oscar Smith in 2013. I have no idea how
> > this game will turn out.
>
> I went to the game last year...Oscar Smith was
> ranked highly based on their name and the 4
> juniors/seniors who were D1 caliber. The rest of
> the team was average.
>
> This year looks like a different story. Not only
> does Ocean Lakes have 4 D1 (and high D1 schools)
> caliber players, but their running back is 240
> lbs. Last week they used their sophomore 260 lb
> DT as a running back as well, all he did is have 4
> TDs and over 100 yds. He even made a HS freshman
> all-america team last year (didn't know there was
> such a thing).
>
> I think CV will have a tough time stopping them.
> These guys are big and fast, and more balanced
> than Oscar Smith was last year. Maybe more
> importantly, they have an experienced QB, where
> Oscar Smith had a freshman QB who perhaps wasn't
> ready for the big stage.
>
> Hate to say it, unless Haddock finds a way to stop
> the run, this is looking like a three TD or more
> blowout win for OL. I hope it's not.


Watch Friday Night Lights. Centreville will lose a heartbreaker when Turner is stopped on the 2 inch line going for the 2 point conversion to win. Westfield fans will rejoice.

Sour grapes Westfield minion. Win or lose CVille has had a phenomenal run the last four to five years.....sorry Westfield's run has not been as good.

sour grapes Wrote:
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> Sour grapes Westfield minion. Win or lose CVille
> has had a phenomenal run the last four to five
> years.....sorry Westfield's run has not been as
> good.


Do you think Westfield fans should be voting for or against the Wildcats? My gut is telling me that they'll vote against their biggest rival to win. Call it sour grapes if you'd like. I call it human nature.

If Westfield roots against Centreville I would call it "always the bridesmaid never the bride" syndrome.

Being a bunch of wimpy assed sore losers who think it is 2003 and they should win all the time. Sorry you elitist brats - Westfield glory days ended 7 years ago....deal with it!

Thanks trolls... look to top of page. I am vindicated. Centreville playing for state title tomorrow. Centreville fans talking about Westfield.

Westfield has defeated Centreville in 12 of the last 13 regular season games.

Westfield and Centreville both have 2 State Championships....Westfield has only been open 14 years while Centreville has been open 26 years.

And Centreville has beaten Westfield in three straight Regional championships with Westfield losing yet another to Oakton in between.

Query - should I win meaningless regular season games or Regional Championships - you be the judge dumbshit

just like a Westfield fan Wrote:
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> And Centreville has beaten Westfield in three
> straight Regional championships with Westfield
> losing yet another to Oakton in between.
>
> Query - should I win meaningless regular season
> games or Regional Championships - you be the judge
> dumbshit


Why you always cussing? It's very unbecoming and trollish. Just sayin'

FUCK YOU

Go Cville

Go cats

Who cares about this year, Hayfield will win it all next year!
They have the athletes and great coaching staff all back next year.

is Turner out for the game?

Tutt got run over on that goal line play. Not to many rbs that big in NOva.

AJ Turner throws a TD pass to Tutt. At the half: Centreville 10 - Ocean Lakes 7

Ocean Lakes - 17
Centreville - 10

11:45 left in the 4th.

Centreville is struggling to move the ball on offense and they are missing way too many tackles on defense. Interesting seeing Ocean Lakes go for it multiple times on 4th down in their own territory. Risky moves!

Any truth to Turner de-committing from South Carolina and committing to Oregon? I heard this last week, but haven't been able to find any info on it.

Ocean Lakes - 24
Centreville - 10

5:32 remaining in the 4th

Ocean Lakes - 24
Centreville - 17

4:56 remaining in the 4th

And CSN decides that Hockey Pregame is more important

Really CSN!?!?

Ocean Lakes - 24
Centreville - 24

1:53 remaining in the 4th

For those that lost coverage, watch it in non-HD. It is still on.

Centreville could not overcome their injuries in this game. Taylor Boose did not play and AJ Turner played on an obviously hobbled leg. He was limping badly and ineffective. But they came back from 14 down in the 4th quarter and tied it at 24 with a determined tackle-breaking 55 yard TD run by Nickens-Yzer and a stunning 80 yard TD strike to Charles Tutt. Ocean Lakes was a monster team no doubt but Centreville played great football and really out-coached OL. Once again the hype about Ocean Lakes/Oscar Smith being vastly better – just not so. If Turner and Boose were 100% I say Centreville wins that game.

I'm here to congratulate Centreville on a great game. My ocean lakes beat you but I gotta tell you, we were stunned. Especially that #4 on centreville. He's got heart and definitely left it all on the field. I haven't seen any team hit our players the way he hit ours. And he also played hurt so I don't want to hear about Centreville winning if their star players weren't injured. When you guys were down he took over on offense and defense. He was definitely the MVP on your team. Anyway, good luck next year!

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Centreville could not overcome their injuries in
> this game. Taylor Boose did not play and AJ
> Turner played on an obviously hobbled leg. He was
> limping badly and ineffective. But they came back
> from 14 down in the 4th quarter and tied it at 24
> with a determined tackle-breaking 55 yard TD run
> by Nickens-Yzer and a stunning 80 yard TD strike
> to Charles Tutt. Ocean Lakes was a monster team
> no doubt but Centreville played great football and
> really out-coached OL. Once again the hype about
> Ocean Lakes/Oscar Smith being vastly better –
> just not so. If Turner and Boose were 100% I say
> Centreville wins that game.

#4 was limping and he scored. Don't want to hear AJ was hurt. Gotta step up on the big stage regardless. Nickens-yzer showed that he could. Nevertheless good game and good season Centreville.

Mr. Disappointed I am sure in your own life you have always come through on the biggest stage right (probably in your basement all alone)? This team faced real bad injuries throughout they season and clearly AJ T was not himself today and T Boose could not play. They stuck it out and got into OT at the state finals against quality competition. A year after state championship and 15-0. All of this area except maybe you, you asswipe, are proud of this team.

Go Wildcats!

Great resilience Wildcats. What a great display of football, fortitude, and teamwork last few years. A great run of success never to be forgotten.

We are CVille!

Tough loss but great game, great season, and great last couple of years. You should hand your heads very high!

Disappointed what Wrote:
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> Mr. Disappointed I am sure in your own life you
> have always come through on the biggest stage
> right (probably in your basement all alone)? This
> team faced real bad injuries throughout they
> season and clearly AJ T was not himself today and
> T Boose could not play. They stuck it out and got
> into OT at the state finals against quality
> competition. A year after state championship and
> 15-0. All of this area except maybe you, you
> asswipe, are proud of this team.
>
> Go Wildcats!

What, you want me to say I'm happy they lost? Of course I'm disappointed. They had many opportunities to win this game.

Did not like Mr Disappointed how you called out AJ Turner. Of course he was not at his best tonite but still 82 yards and that young man has been super man the last few years. Incredible player, feel good about his body of work and that of the team.

did not like Wrote:
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> Did not like Mr Disappointed how you called out AJ
> Turner. Of course he was not at his best tonite
> but still 82 yards and that young man has been
> super man the last few years. Incredible player,
> feel good about his body of work and that of the
> team.


If I came across that way let me apologize. AJ Turner is a hell of a player. To clarify, I was responding to the post that said AJ Turner was hobbling. Regardless of him hobbling Centreville had many opportunities to win this game. AJ Turner is a great player and I cant wait to see him play on Saturdays. I was simply saying lets not make players being hurt an excuse for being in effective. It happens and you gotta deal with it.

Turner to Oregon Wrote:
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> Any truth to Turner de-committing from South
> Carolina and committing to Oregon? I heard this
> last week, but haven't been able to find any info
> on it.

Yes A.J. decommitted from South Carolina. I hear Ohio State is in the mix. Strange the press hasn't picked this up.