Why no SC?

Message to AJ Turner

This is an open note from a fan who has watched and/or coached football for thirty years. Now that your illustrious high school career is over, everyone wishes you great success at the next level. Of course you must follow your own dreams and interests but here is some humble advice.

Focus now on becoming the best free safety you possibly can be as that is in my estimation your ticket to success in college and maybe even one day the pros. My rationale:

* You are a superb athlete but if you stay at running back the programs will make you gain upwards of 30 pounds. Not sure that fits your body type.
* College and pro offenses are going to more block first run second running backs with the pass happy approaches. That is not you, does not take advantages of your skills.
* You were incredibly effective as a wing back, lets face it somewhat less effective as an I back. Not too many if any college or pro programs are running the Wing T offense.
* Now on to the idea of focus on being a free safety - to go along with your incredible, natural athletic skills you have a tremendous feel for the game. Great vision, body control, recovery speed, and intelligent athleticism. Plus you have shown that you can lay a hit on a receiver too from the safety position. That is the epitome of a free safety.
* Football is inherently an injury ridden sport but the averages favor a free safety over a running back especially at the next levels.
* By playing free safety you can still take advantage of your other top notch skills - returning kicks and even punts.

Anyway, again follow your dreams. However, please consider my advice and I look forward to great success for you at the college and even the pro levels someday!!

Great run the last four years. Excellent work Wildcats, be proud!!!!!!

We are CVILLE

Overall tally now is 2 state championships and 2 runner up trophies......the program success speaks loudly and deeply.

Is it now appropriate to say that Chris Haddock is the best football coach in northern region history??

cvillbacker Wrote:
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> Is it now appropriate to say that Chris Haddock is
> the best football coach in northern region
> history??


I don't know, he's got that Mikhail Gorbachev thing going.

 
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Its called a birthmark asswipe, many people have them. Hell of a lot better than the tire tracks he has left permanently tattoed on Westfield's ass the last four years.

Its called a Wrote:
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> Its called a birthmark asswipe, many people have
> them. Hell of a lot better than the tire tracks
> he has left permanently tattoed on Westfield's ass
> the last four years.



Says the redneck fanboy.

Its called a Wrote:
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> Its called a birthmark asswipe, many people have
> them. Hell of a lot better than the tire tracks
> he has left permanently tattoed on Westfield's ass
> the last four years.


is it the 21-17 "asswhipping" you refer to in the region championship? the one where centreville never established anything on offense? or the 42-41 loss earlier in the season?

spoken by the Westfield faithful, Northern Region Final Choke Artists supreme

Open Letter to AJ Turner Wrote:
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> Message to AJ Turner
>
> This is an open note from a fan who has watched
> and/or coached football for thirty years. Now
> that your illustrious high school career is over,
> everyone wishes you great success at the next
> level. Of course you must follow your own dreams
> and interests but here is some humble advice.
>
> Focus now on becoming the best free safety you
> possibly can be as that is in my estimation your
> ticket to success in college and maybe even one
> day the pros. My rationale:
>
> * You are a superb athlete but if you stay at
> running back the programs will make you gain
> upwards of 30 pounds. Not sure that fits your body
> type.
> * College and pro offenses are going to more
> block first run second running backs with the pass
> happy approaches. That is not you, does not take
> advantages of your skills.
> * You were incredibly effective as a wing back,
> lets face it somewhat less effective as an I back.
> Not too many if any college or pro programs are
> running the Wing T offense.
> * Now on to the idea of focus on being a free
> safety - to go along with your incredible, natural
> athletic skills you have a tremendous feel for the
> game. Great vision, body control, recovery speed,
> and intelligent athleticism. Plus you have shown
> that you can lay a hit on a receiver too from the
> safety position. That is the epitome of a free
> safety.
> * Football is inherently an injury ridden sport
> but the averages favor a free safety over a
> running back especially at the next levels.
> * By playing free safety you can still take
> advantage of your other top notch skills -
> returning kicks and even punts.
>
> Anyway, again follow your dreams. However, please
> consider my advice and I look forward to great
> success for you at the college and even the pro
> levels someday!!

Nice, thoughtful letter. I have a better idea. Study hard, use your football name and connections to get some summer internships. Above all, graduate. Use your school, don't let them use you. So hit the books, have fun, stay out of trouble, and you'll be fine.

Looking forward to seeing where you decide to enroll. Go somewhere where you can play a lot.

Anyone know what the (phantom) unsportsmanlike call was agaist Richbourg? We could't figure it out at the game, I came home and watched my recording and didn't see anything but a good 'ol boy ref pull out his flag. What a game changer that was. Hard to believe anything could be called at that moment in that game unless a punch was thrown.

I think OL was the better team, but that call was huge. If they are at the 3, the kicker makes that FG, and who knows maybe Tutt's 80yd catch puts them in the lead instead of tying it up.

Have to admit, the offsides call on OL onside kick was pretty debatable too.

VTboy Wrote:
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> Anyone know what the (phantom) unsportsmanlike
> call was agaist Richbourg? We could't figure it
> out at the game, I came home and watched my
> recording and didn't see anything but a good 'ol
> boy ref pull out his flag. What a game changer
> that was. Hard to believe anything could be
> called at that moment in that game unless a punch
> was thrown.
>
> I think OL was the better team, but that call was
> huge. If they are at the 3, the kicker makes that
> FG, and who knows maybe Tutt's 80yd catch puts
> them in the lead instead of tying it up.
>
> Have to admit, the offsides call on OL onside kick
> was pretty debatable too.

Usually when you can't "see" anything on the replay it means the player said something he shouldn't have to the ref. Also, Richbourg may have gotten his nuts grabbed and wasn't too happy about it. Walked with a little uncomfortable limp after that...

win is a win Wrote:
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> spoken by the Westfield faithful, Northern Region
> Final Choke Artists supreme

The 6A championship trophy currently resides in VA Beach. You failed to bring the championship home. I consider that a "choke" as well.

Westfield logic clearly.....keep on winning those regular season games and thinking you are a successful program.

Westfield would have lost by 30 to Ocean Lakes

Centreville, the Buffalo Bills of High School Football!! Haddock is an awful coach, that couldn't get it done with a great team. Yeah it's good to play in a state championship, but to lose twice, that is not a great "coach" by any means! His kids couldn't handle the grind of a long season, and that is coaching, year round, not when it is convenient for you!!

Haddock is a joke, and anyone that thinks he is the best coach in the region is absolutely insane. Coaching isn't all about getting great players to perform, it is getting great players to get it done and he didn't do that twice!! Hats off to Ocean Lakes, that was a team that was committed to the cause of winning.

Stop praising a loser, and start realizing he failed!! Let's see how good of a "coach" he is after losing 38 seniors!! Get it together NOVA FANS!!!

Great run Centreville. This has been some of the best football over the last few years any of else have seen. Don't let the trolls bother you, I'm sure the Westfield football players have much respect for you guys. Ocean Lakes was a great team. Great game, fought your hearts out. Best of luck to the ones going to the next level.

And for the Haddock haters. 6 seasons, 3 northern regions titles, 1 state champship. Go to hell lol.

Plus CVille has another state championship in tow....four trips, two titles No other team compares

History of other teams:

Westfield two titles but a lot of REAL REAL REAL Buffalo Bill like work in four straight regional title losses which is putting a big tarnish there.

Robinson three state trips 2 titles but getting to be many years ago

Lake Braddock - 1 state trip, no titles

Oakton - 2 state trips, one title

Chantilly 2 state trips, one title but also a distant memory

SOCO - a lot of pimping but nothing, oh forgot one trip as 5A but loss

Other teams????

Good analysis with state trips and wins. Hard to say any other team in Northern Region has had more top tier success than Centreville. Just look at the numbers. And I agree Westfield has been the Buffalo Bill act not Centreville. Four straight Region losses, come on talk about not getting it done....

Yes, impossible to say Centreville is not the best program in the North

plus one Wrote:
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> Other teams????


From current 6A North teams:

Osbourn - 1 title in 2 trips
Battlefield - 1 title in 1 trip

I'm choosing to think the trolls on both sides are not typical of the fans of either team (CV-WF). For the most part I know the players and coaches have utmost respect for each other.

Thanks Mom, you are right.....I am sorry

Why do you all think that this site will provide rational discourse? Anonymous postings always lead to bullshit and posing.

Thomas Jefferson high

cant we all just get along

Hey football posters, let's officially can this thread. Please post in High School Football 2015 now, what do you say?

there are still 2 weeks left in 2014 to talk about 2014 football

I love Centreville football!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/2014-fall-allmet/

At least another week of 2014 Football left.. (waiting for State Announcements)

Basketball Wrote:
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> Westfield rules yes Wrote:
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> > We still have a better basketball team
>
> Why did Scanlon transfer back to Westfield? And
> he's allowed to remain a Junior even though this
> is his 4th year of high school?


When Tyler Scanlon enrolled at Paul VI as a freshman in 2012, the two-sport athlete traded his desire to play football at Westfield High for the hope of developing his 6-foot-6 frame into a college-ready basketball prospect. Since then, the versatile forward has garnered offers from Fairfield, Rice and Toledo. But when his teammates departed in the summer, Scanlon elected to return to Westfield.

“Those guys had really become my brothers, so when they left, it became easier for me to go back to Westfield,” said Scanlon, who averaged 6.8 points as a part-time starter for Paul VI last season. “Once one left, the dominos began to tumble. We had won together, and we ended up leaving together.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/paul-vi-basketballs-long-game-panthers-adjusting-to-emerging-national-power-status/2014/12/19/8cfeac84-7a33-11e4-b821-503cc7efed9e_story.html

Congrats to Coach Simmons - one tough dude.

2014 Coach of the Year: Kyle Simmons
Football coach overcomes tonsil cancer to carry Westfield to Conference 5 title

http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20141230/SPORTS/141239962/1061/2014-coach-of-the-year-kyle-simmons&template=fairfaxTimes
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Defensive Play of the Year by the 6A North Defensive Player of the Year

The reason why A.J. Turner changed jerseys: the touchdown saving iron grip of James Gibson. The stop on Xavier Nickens-Yzer in the 2OT would be a close second. Army's getting a good one.
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Good article on Westfield coach and kudos for him staying strong through his illness. Four straight runner up trophies though???? Really???? Starting to diminish the "greatness" of the Westfield program, don't you think........lets be real.

Oh screw you Northern Region Fan, Westfied IS a great program

Just stating the obvious

northern region fan Wrote:
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> Good article on Westfield coach and kudos for him
> staying strong through his illness. Four straight
> runner up trophies though???? Really???? Starting
> to diminish the "greatness" of the Westfield
> program, don't you think........lets be real.

The answer is no - of course not. Just shows how hard it is to win a championship. Simmons has done this with a total of 3 lower tier D1 players over those 4 years. Some stats I saw elsewhere below - but if Simmons can keep Westfield in the hunt every year - sooner or later they'll break through. Stone Bridge / Westfield have taken some criticism for being in decline - but it is really more the rise in other programs than anything else (5A Briar Woods, Broad Run, Tuscarora / 6A Centreville, Lake Braddock). And quite frankly that makes it much more interesting.

VHSL Teams with most seasons with 10 or more wins since 1999
13 L.C. Bird
12 Stone Bridge
12 Phoebus
11 Oscar Smith
10 Salem
10 C.D. Hylton
10 Gretna
9 Giles
9 Essex
9 Riverheads
9 Westfield
9 Gate City
9 Powhatan

VHSL Teams with most undefeated regular seasons since 1999
7 Salem
7 Phoebus
6 L.C. Bird
6 Oscar Smith
6 Westfield
6 Hermitage
6 Stone Bridge
6 C.D. Hylton
5 Ocean Lakes
5 Essex
5 Gate City
5 Gretna

VHSL Best winning pct. since 1999
.894 Phoebus
.857 L.C. Bird
.852 Stone Bridge
.846 Oscar Smith
.827 Salem
.824 Riverheads
.810 C.D. Hylton
.809 Westfield
.805 Gretna
.802 Hampton

VHSL Longest Current streak of making the playoffs:
16 L.C. Bird
14 Richlands
14 Phoebus
14 Essex
14 Franklin
13 Stone Bridge
13 Westfield
13 Powhatan
13 J.I. Burton
12 Oscar Smith
12 King William
12 Hampton

VHSL Most Top 1000 CalPreps National Rankings 2003-2014
9 Phoebus (7-2008, 22-2010, 99-2009, 265-2011, 322-2006, 384-2007, 531-2012, 902-2013, 926-2005)
9 Westfield (25-2003, 42-2007, 215-2011, 232-2005, 238-2013, 353-2014, 465-2012, 653-2006, 679-2008)
9 Oscar Smith (32-2008, 51-2011, 126-2013, 202-2007, 215-2012, 226-2009, 261-2014, 473-2010, 575-2005)
9 L.C. Bird (74-2012, 84-2014, 90-2013, 500-2005, 607-2009, 617-2004, 655-2011, 659-2010, 719-2003)
9 Salem (118-2004, 127-2006, 225-2005, 345-2007, 379-2014, 451-2009, 628-2006, 752-2013, 919-2012)

7 Amherst (45-2007, 173-2006, 195-2009, 278-2008, 675-2012, 775-2005, 827-2004)
7 Stone Bridge (116-2007, 149-2008, 207-2010, 330-2012, 511-2009, 556-2003, 687-2005)
7 Hermitage (228-2012, 279-2014, 297-2010, 507-2011, 517-2009, 732-2013, 980-2007)
7 C.D. Hylton (457-2012, 471-2010, 512-2005, 540-2011, 658-2003, 747-2013, 760-2006)

6 Lake Taylor (56-2014, 73-2012, 179-2008, 536-2009, 659-2011, 774-2013)
6 Battlefield (57-2010, 185-2009, 426-2008, 464-2011, 758-2014, 983-2012)
6 Hampton (154-2010, 283-2005, 516-2008, 790-2009, 869-2004, 997-2011)
6 James Robinson (365-2004, 381-2003, 472-2005, 474-2010, 683-2013, 695-2009)

5 Ocean Lakes (53-2014, 107-2012, 291-2013, 464-2008, 760-2009)
5 Broad Run (129-2009, 153-2008, 581-2010, 805-2013, 864-2014)
5 Gretna (134-2003, 187-2004, 435-2007, 983-2011, 984-2008)
5 Lake Braddock (152-2009, 195-2010, 241-2013, 741-2011, 877-2014)
5 Salem - VB (284-2011, 425-2012, 634-2014, 676-2007, 823-2013)
5 Colonial Forge (295-2010, 300-2013, 685-2012, 699-2009, 704-2014)
5 Varina (342-2012, 488-2008, 518-2009, 877-2004, 892-2011)
5 Massaponax (446-2013, 559-2005, 568-2014, 718-2009, 765-2003)
5 Chantilly (581-2008, 625-2006, 697-2010, 787-2012, 970-2007)

4 Centreville (23-2013, 182-2014, 198-2011, 473-2005)
4 Osbourn (55-2006, 246-2010, 348-2008, 864-2009)
4 Dinwiddie (82-2013, 195-2010, 317-2008, 936-2014)
4 Oakton (90-2005, 121-2008, 703-2004, 851-2012)
4 Briar Woods (94-2012, 147-2013, 201-2010, 226-2011)
4 Powhatan (105-2003, 661-2009, 835-2005, 896-2007)
4 Brookville (224-2012, 258-2011, 424-2008, 962-2010)
4 North Stafford (230-2012, 316-2013, 631-2004, 673-2011)
4 Woodbridge (271-2008, 535-2009, 600-2006, 949-2007)
4 Harrisonburg (319-2004, 542-2010, 869-2005, 934-2009)
4 Richlands (438-2010, 441-2006, 926-2004, 941-2005)
4 Liberty-Bealeton (670-2008, 706-2010, 849-2004, 910-2014)

3 Landstown (36-2004, 144-2005, 242-2003)
3 Meadowbrook (151-2004, 341-2009, 688-2011)
3 James Monroe (333-2011, 336-2008, 902-2012)
3 Highland Springs (349-2014, 608-2012, 793-2009)
3 Woodside (375-2009, 708-2011, 894-2008)
3 Christiansburg (391-2011, 718-2010, 826-2009)
3 Northside (533-2013, 602-2009, 835-2011)
3 South County (549-2011, 630-2013, 794-2014)
3 Western Branch (729-2003, 807-2013, 833-2012)
3 Lafayette (910-2004, 958-2014, 986-2003)

2 Thomas Dale (118-2009, 914-2014)
2 Hopewell (252-2003, 593-2004)
2 Poquoson (334-2010, 865-2003)
2 Potomac (370-2006, 420-2007)
2 Pulaski County (397-2008, 714-2004)
2 Hanover (406-2010, 971-2012)
2 Bayside (418-2010, 938-2011)
2 West Springfield (447-2008, 566-2007)
2 Monacan (494-2014, 900-2003)
2 Sherando (573-2013, 633-2007)
2 Liberty-Bedford (654-2003, 755-2004)
2 Monticello (737-2007, 929-2008)
2 Bethel (834-2008, 911-2011)
2 Goochland (880-2006, 932-2012)
2 Mountain View (974-2013, 997-2012)

Schools Appearing once
150 Gate City (2003)
199 Tuscarora (2014)
237 Sussex Central (2003)
293 Manchester (2014)
301 Chancellor (2008)
302 W. T. Woodson (2009)
381 Thomas Edison (2008)
391 Osbourn Park (2009)
396 Louisa (2006)
406 Heritage-Lynchburg (2012)
436 Essex (2009)
448 William Fleming (2003)
552 Green Run (2008)
611 George Washington (2007)
679 Handley (2009)
698 Turner Ashby (2005)
713 Great Bridge (2010)
723 Kempsville (2005)
729 Magna Vista (2014)
752 Matoaca (2005)
762 Grassfield (2011)
786 Manassas Park (2004)
817 Kettle Run (2011)
820 Atlee (2013)
824 Graham (2003)
845 Floyd Kellam (2005)
875 I.C. Norcom (2010)
893 William Campbell (2008)
919 Robert E. Lee-Manassas (2009)
926 William byrd (2007)
950 Forest Park (2013)
959 Franklin (2004)
964 Giles (2005)
970 Potomac Falls (2008)
992 Brooke Point (2011)
992 James River (2014)

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Does VHSL announce an 6A All State team? Do they only do that for 5A and under?

6A All State Team Wrote:
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> Does VHSL announce an 6A All State team? Do they
> only do that for 5A and under?


Yes they also do it for 6A. They should have announced it by now. Not sure what the issue is.

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