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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 22, 2014 02:01PM

VTboy Wrote:
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> South County Guy question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > What would SC's record be if they played
> > Centreville's schedule with injuries to a
> number
> > of their key players?
>
> Love that answer...so true...

Lets see some of these concord teams with the same amount of population that south county has

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 22, 2014 02:06PM

And next year i hope pannoni schedules the out of conference games against centreville and westfield. but one will probably be against south lakes where his old buddy Trey Taylor is the head coach

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 22, 2014 03:28PM

south county guy Wrote:
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> And next year i hope pannoni schedules the out of
> conference games against centreville and
> westfield. but one will probably be against south
> lakes where his old buddy Trey Taylor is the head
> coach

It's probably not as simple as that - with their already tough schedules Centreville/Westfield might not want to drop an easier team off the schedule and add even one more top contender. And I suspect a lot of these games are scheduled a couple years in advance.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: VTboy ()
Date: October 22, 2014 03:36PM

south county guy Wrote:
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>
> Lets see some of these concord teams with the same
> amount of population that south county has

Don't read too much into simple population numbers. Yes, SoCo has 2,000 students, whereas CV has 2,300 and WF 2,800. Historically over time, I agree population matters. That is why Westfied is consistenty excellent, along with great coaching and much parental involvement from the youth leagues onwards.

However, TC Williams has 2,900 and they consistently are below average in football.

Is as much about demographics as anything, i.e. the percentage of students whose parents grew up watching/playing American Football will vary widely across the ever-so-diverse Fairfax County landscape.

And to some extent, it's partly luck too. Centreville happens to have 6 seniors who will play college football next year. Next year it may be one and after that who knows. The freshman team hadn't lost in 5 years but is now losing some games.

Remember, Centreville had consecutive 1-9 and 3-7 seasons just a few years ago, with essentially the same population.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 22, 2014 04:00PM

Re: scheduling stronger opponents...

I'm pretty sure that's what Soco was trying to do when they scheduled Chantilly... they didn't realize that Chantilly would suck this year.

it's also funny to me that concorde fans will site playing Stone Bridge as a tough game for Westfield or Cville, but won't give South County any credit for beating Stone Bridge in the playoffs a couple years ago

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 22, 2014 04:18PM

also, I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the DSA's make requests for opponents on the schedule, but they aren't guaranteed. A committee will take those requests and match up teams when they have common interest in playing each other. It's not like the coach just goes out and schedules all the worst teams.

Soco has played Concorde teams every year if you go back in the schedules... Chantilly a few times, Robinson a couple of times, Centreville a couple of times, and Oakton and Westfield further back when they were a newer school. Generally, they play a neighborhood rival - Hayfield, which pretty much everyone does. All other games except for one are district games, which they can't control.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 22, 2014 06:20PM

soco Wrote:
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> it's also funny to me that concorde fans will site
> playing Stone Bridge as a tough game for Westfield
> or Cville, but won't give South County any credit
> for beating Stone Bridge in the playoffs a couple
> years ago

Exactly. we even kept them from scoring a touchdown back then.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: ????/ ()
Date: October 22, 2014 06:26PM

WildcatFAN Wrote:
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> Panonni didn't lay down the structure this this
> team...he has nothing to do with it. This is all
> Haddock's system. And with Haddock's system he
> was able to take the 2011 team (which Panonni
> coached I believe) to the state championship.

Pannoni played this graduating class as freshmen of course they will lose a lot

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:24PM

Does anyone have a current bracket for if the season ended right now?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Pffftttt…. ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:27PM

SOCO schedule is traditionally very weak. They 'may' have one good game throughout the season and then they roll into the postseason. And I agree, the number of kids at the school means nothing….look at demographics and feeder programs. South County has the SCAA and then they have SYC and maybe one other feeder program. I'll give South County a few more years and then I'm guessing their soccer program will be doing really well. That Route 1 corridor will be producing some fantastic soccer players.

Viva Concord.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Concord queen ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:32PM

Pffftttt…. Wrote:
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> SOCO schedule is traditionally very weak. They
> 'may' have one good game throughout the season and
> then they roll into the postseason. And I agree,
> the number of kids at the school means
> nothing….look at demographics and feeder
> programs. South County has the SCAA and then they
> have SYC and maybe one other feeder program. I'll
> give South County a few more years and then I'm
> guessing their soccer program will be doing really
> well. That Route 1 corridor will be producing some
> fantastic soccer players.
>
> Viva Concord.

U sound like a pussy fart

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 23, 2014 08:57AM

Pffftttt…. Wrote:
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> SOCO schedule is traditionally very weak. They
> 'may' have one good game throughout the season and
> then they roll into the postseason. And I agree,
> the number of kids at the school means
> nothing….look at demographics and feeder
> programs. South County has the SCAA and then they
> have SYC and maybe one other feeder program. I'll
> give South County a few more years and then I'm
> guessing their soccer program will be doing really
> well. That Route 1 corridor will be producing some
> fantastic soccer players.
>
> Viva Concord.


Soco always schedules a concord team. it just so happens that the team they played this year has a down year

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: WildcatFAN ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:07AM

Honest question for my Soco believers,

Has the defense improved from last year? I think its safe to say you guys can score, but unless you guys can put up a little bit of a fight on defense when it counts, I dont see how this year is different from last.

Opinions welcomed...

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:28AM

WildcatFAN Wrote:
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> Honest question for my Soco believers,
>
> Has the defense improved from last year? I think
> its safe to say you guys can score, but unless you
> guys can put up a little bit of a fight on defense
> when it counts, I dont see how this year is
> different from last.
>
> Opinions welcomed...
WE got a transfer middle linebacker from new England i believe. He is going to be the cornerstone for this defense. And everyone else got a better. The defense is better than last year's

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: WildcatFAN ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:58AM

How about the QB? The kid from last year seem to be the focal point of the offense, is that the case this year?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 23, 2014 10:19AM

The QB this year is a Junior who played mostly DB last year and as a freshman played QB. The returning RBs, Gerald Huelett and Rob Avery, have been the focal point of the offense this year and for good reason. Both are extremely strong, each bench at least 300 lbs, just to give an idea. They combine for a pretty good one two punch. Huelett is much faster and fleet footed than Avery, who is far and away the power back, he plays mainly F in the triple option attack. Avery returns to the field this Friday after being out the last two games so it will be interesting to see both of them on the field at the same time and the dynamic they bring to the offense. It is, however, hard to ignore the talented receivers on the field as well. #81, a senior and #80 a freshman are both big, fast receivers who can come down with most any kind of throw and are deceptively fast.

This all sounds pretty biased but it is what I've seen from the offense so far this season. I'm sure most anyone else who's been to more than 1 game would agree with most everything here.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: SOCO fan ()
Date: October 23, 2014 12:02PM

i totally agree with your assessments. And they have an entirely new offensive line

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 23, 2014 01:06PM

soco Wrote:
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> WE got a transfer middle linebacker from new
> England i believe. He is going to be the
> cornerstone for this defense. And everyone else
> got a better. The defense is better than last
> year's


http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140826/SPORTS/140829430/1076/South-County-defense-finds-new-centerpiece&template=fairfaxTimes

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: truuu ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:05PM

is he(Kevin Alllen) the best defender in the region?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:20PM

Potential to be the best defender in the region? Absolutely. Is he right now? No. Mental mistakes (i.e. not filling his gap properly or taking a poor angle while scraping to the c gap) are keeping him from really being a dominate force on defense every game, all game long.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: over/under ()
Date: October 23, 2014 03:02PM

what games have the potential to be good over the next couple weeks?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: nova fan ()
Date: October 23, 2014 03:09PM

over/under Wrote:
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> what games have the potential to be good over the
> next couple weeks?


all of the good games have already passed

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: It's almost November ()
Date: October 23, 2014 08:46PM

Cville was up 17-0 against W Springfield with a few mintues left in the 3rd qtr with WS 1st and goal from the 3yd line. Instead of making 17-7 entering the 4th. Cville picked up off a pass and returned it 100 yds for a score and made the game look worse than it was. WS is really going on offense with a lot sophomores and jr's. However Soco had their way with WS even though their a lot better today than they were week 1. Cville/Soco all be a good game. Soco is really good on defense and if they go up like they did last year Cville won't recover

WS may suprise some people in the playoffs this year. They beat LB in all three phases of the game. Who beat westfields which beat Cville. It'll be intersting

You Concorde fans may want to quiet down bc Soco is really good and they are physical which travels well in November. However Cville is really loaded when healthy and the favorites but if they are not healthy Soco will win.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Its almost november ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:07PM

WS are really young*

Cville/Soco will be*

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:40PM

I think Westfield might also have a dog in this fight. They are very balanced on offense, big physical nasty o-line, great special teams, and a solid physical hard hitting defense. They are playing their best ball right now, have improved each week, most importantly they are a team, nit a bunch of individual glory hounds.

For the post above about WS beating LB who beat Westfield who beat Cville, dont read much into that. Westfield was flagged for 17 penalties for close to 150 yards. They also had an INT return for a TD called back on a ridiculous roughing the passer penalty. They beat themselves much more than LB did, no disrespect intended to LB.

Going into last weeks game Robinson fans were saying the same thing, we beat LB who beat Westfield so why even play the game. Westfield won 31-14, would have been 31-7 if Westfield didn't fumble a punt early in the 3rd quarter inside their 25 yard line. Westfield pulled their starters at the start of the 4th quarter.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:43PM

Meant to type "not a bunch of individual glory hounds", sorry.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: It's almost November response ()
Date: October 23, 2014 10:32PM

It's almost November Wrote:
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> Cville was up 17-0 against W Springfield with a
> few mintues left in the 3rd qtr with WS 1st and
> goal from the 3yd line. Instead of making 17-7
> entering the 4th. Cville picked up off a pass and
> returned it 100 yds for a score and made the game
> look worse than it was. WS is really going on
> offense with a lot sophomores and jr's. However
> Soco had their way with WS even though their a lot
> better today than they were week 1. Cville/Soco
> all be a good game. Soco is really good on defense
> and if they go up like they did last year Cville
> won't recover
>
> WS may suprise some people in the playoffs this
> year. They beat LB in all three phases of the
> game. Who beat westfields which beat Cville. It'll
> be intersting
>
> You Concorde fans may want to quiet down bc Soco
> is really good and they are physical which travels
> well in November. However Cville is really loaded
> when healthy and the favorites but if they are not
> healthy Soco will win.


A couple things about that Centreville/West Spring game. I was impressed by their defense but AJ Turner and Taylor Boose didn't play so Centreville played their 2nd string rb's. Boose returned the next week and put up 180, 200 and 160 yards against Concorde District defenses. The drive you describe happened after a disputed call on at TD. I don't know if it was a bad call or not but Haddock went nuts on the refs and I must have pissed them off because they called about 6 penalties on Centreville on that drive to allow WS to get to the 5 yard line. WS had no other drives of note in that game. I came away respecting their defense but not impressed at all with their offense.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Correction ()
Date: October 24, 2014 06:28AM

Cville had 3 flags on that drive from WS 23 YL but only 1 counted for 5 yards.

1 flag was a sideline warning, 1 for encroachment (5 yards) and 1 holding (WS declined).

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: WildcatFAN ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:11AM

If AJ turner comes back this season, Centreville is a completely different team. He is the workhorse running the ball, he is the ball hawking free safety they are missing to run the style of defense they want to, and if you kick it to him, might as well count it as 6.

If AJ doesn't play this season, I think the playoffs will become very interesting. The fact the Centreville is in this discussion without the VA player of the year last year, should show you how go they are and can be.

I get why everyone is judging Centreville off of the games they have played, but they havent had all the pieces to the puzzle together this season, if and when it happens, I think everyone will see the state champion level team again. Doesn't mean Soco or Westfield cannot beat them, I just remember how bady Centreville dismantled EVERY TEAM last year with AJ turner. He is the key piece. Without him they will contend, win or lose. With him, I don't think anyone knows how good they truly may be...

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: question is ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:57AM

Is AJ coming back.....?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:58AM

Not so fast Wrote:
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> I think Westfield might also have a dog in this
> fight. They are very balanced on offense, big
> physical nasty o-line, great special teams, and a
> solid physical hard hitting defense. They are
> playing their best ball right now, have improved
> each week, most importantly they are a team, nit a
> bunch of individual glory hounds.
>
> For the post above about WS beating LB who beat
> Westfield who beat Cville, dont read much into
> that. Westfield was flagged for 17 penalties for
> close to 150 yards. They also had an INT return
> for a TD called back on a ridiculous roughing the
> passer penalty. They beat themselves much more
> than LB did, no disrespect intended to LB.
>
> Going into last weeks game Robinson fans were
> saying the same thing, we beat LB who beat
> Westfield so why even play the game. Westfield won
> 31-14, would have been 31-7 if Westfield didn't
> fumble a punt early in the 3rd quarter inside
> their 25 yard line. Westfield pulled their
> starters at the start of the 4th quarter.


Your analysis is mostly correct. The LB game was an anomaly - for whatever reason in the second half of that game the officiating decided to make an example out of Westfield and killed every drive they had in the second half.

I dunno know, Westfield's punting game has been atrocious this year and their punt/kickoff returns have been weak. I think they have muffed or fumbled a return almost every game this year.

I do still see Centreville as the team to beat regardless of whether or not they have Turner back. Without Walter at QB though they will not be at the same level as last year.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:27AM

WildcatFAN Wrote:
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> If AJ turner comes back this season, Centreville
> is a completely different team. He is the
> workhorse running the ball, he is the ball hawking
> free safety they are missing to run the style of
> defense they want to, and if you kick it to him,
> might as well count it as 6.
>
> If AJ doesn't play this season, I think the
> playoffs will become very interesting. The fact
> the Centreville is in this discussion without the
> VA player of the year last year, should show you
> how go they are and can be.
>
> I get why everyone is judging Centreville off of
> the games they have played, but they havent had
> all the pieces to the puzzle together this season,
> if and when it happens, I think everyone will see
> the state champion level team again. Doesn't mean
> Soco or Westfield cannot beat them, I just
> remember how bady Centreville dismantled EVERY
> TEAM last year with AJ turner. He is the key
> piece. Without him they will contend, win or
> lose. With him, I don't think anyone knows how
> good they truly may be...

I agree with most of this. SoCo was the only team to be relatively close in the game last year

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:32AM

Not so fast Wrote:
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> I think Westfield might also have a dog in this
> fight. They are very balanced on offense, big
> physical nasty o-line, great special teams, and a
> solid physical hard hitting defense. They are
> playing their best ball right now, have improved
> each week, most importantly they are a team, nit a
> bunch of individual glory hounds.
>
> For the post above about WS beating LB who beat
> Westfield who beat Cville, dont read much into
> that. Westfield was flagged for 17 penalties for
> close to 150 yards. They also had an INT return
> for a TD called back on a ridiculous roughing the
> passer penalty. They beat themselves much more
> than LB did, no disrespect intended to LB.
>
> Going into last weeks game Robinson fans were
> saying the same thing, we beat LB who beat
> Westfield so why even play the game. Westfield won
> 31-14, would have been 31-7 if Westfield didn't
> fumble a punt early in the 3rd quarter inside
> their 25 yard line. Westfield pulled their
> starters at the start of the 4th quarter.


Your analysis is mostly correct. The LB game was an anomaly - for whatever reason in the second half of that game the officiating decided to make an example out of Westfield and killed every drive they had in the second half.

I dunno know, Westfield's punting game has been atrocious this year and their punt/kickoff returns have been weak. I think they have muffed or fumbled a return almost every game this year.

I do still see Centreville as the team to beat regardless of whether or not they have Turner back. Without Walter at QB though they will not be at the same level as last year.

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I agree with you about the punting game, but most of it is self inflicted, Scoville is not the punter, their TE is. But they like to run that punt where Scoville rolls out to his right and either runs it or punts it depending on coverage and distance. When the TE punts the ball their pretty spot on in regards to a quality unit.

Westfield's return units have lost a little edge in dynamics, mainly because Pearson is no longer on the team. They have plenty of candidates, they just seem to be muddling around as far as who their top guys are.

Centreville is still the team to beat because they are the defending champions, have tons of talent, and are well coached. But as I stated, Westfield has a ton of talent, maybe not the number of individual stars that Centreville has but a lot of solid ball players, and are also well coached.

Should be some great football the past few weeks, if Centreville gets all their players healthy, Westfield continues to play solid and improve each week the way they have since the LB game, both will be a challenge for whomever they play. No disrespect to anyone else out there but I'm just basing it off having watched a good number of these 6A teams play via Gameday Magazine and looking at their schedules.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: what happened ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:37AM

what happened to Pearson at Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:45AM

Not sure but whatever it was he's off the team, had to be something serious.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:05AM

Still debating on which game to see tonight:

Tuscarora @ Freedom-SR: would like to watch Noah Reimers play but it will be a total beatdown so not a fun game

South County @ W.T. Woodson: would like to see SoCo in person but it will be a total beatdown so not a fun game

Yorktown @ Chantilly: could be a competitive game, would like to see if Chantilly has improved from the Madison game I was at earlier in the season

Briar Woods @ Park View: told a friend I would watch their son play this year but a 70-0 game just doesn't interest me.

Am I missing a good game out there?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: NR Coach ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:29AM

West Springfield vs Annandale should be an interesting game

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:57AM

NR Coach Wrote:
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> West Springfield vs Annandale should be an
> interesting game

Quite true, forgot about that one. Hmmm... not sure I want to drive that far though.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 24, 2014 11:45AM

id say if you want to watch a soco game you should watch the lake braddock game next week.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 24, 2014 05:23PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> NR Coach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > West Springfield vs Annandale should be an
> > interesting game
>
> Quite true, forgot about that one. Hmmm... not
> sure I want to drive that far though.

that could be for 2nd place in patriot conference

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:07PM

end of 1st quarter soco 34 woodson 0

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Soco ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:59PM

62-0 soco at half

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Maybe ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:29PM

Maybe SOCO can beat up on a bunch of elderly ladies next week ....Woodson means nothing

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Pondering ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:50PM

Robo update anyone?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Overrated ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:44PM

Maybe Wrote:
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> Maybe SOCO can beat up on a bunch of elderly
> ladies next week ....Woodson means nothing


None of the games Soco has played mean anything. They are the most untested team.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: How? ()
Date: October 24, 2014 11:11PM

Oakton beat Robinson 7-0. Completely shut down their running game. How did that happen? Oakton got blown out by chantilly. WTF?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: I'll tell you how ()
Date: October 25, 2014 12:28AM

Oakton's QB and center were out for the Chantilly game. Their D has always been strong, and their OC has been weak. 14 and 44 are real deal. 6 straight shutout quarters vs two top 5 teams.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:17AM

only concern about westfield. their defense

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:18AM

they have given up a lot of points that they should have shaved off

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Cville not Concorde champs ()
Date: October 25, 2014 12:24PM

Centreville must have forgotten that west Springfield got behind the entire defense on the second play of the game? Unfortunately the kid dropped an essay pass. Funny how parents like to have selective memory

Centreville fans are starting to get annoying. They were talking huge the whole year and then they fall to westfields and it's excuse after excuse. If they lose to Soco it'll probably be the same old shit.

Soco has the talent to win the state championship. Centreville may be stronger but Soco is more tenacious

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Westfield's D ()
Date: October 25, 2014 03:24PM

Westfield's defense will be just fine, they always seem to make a play or stand when needed. Having watched them the past few years they definitely seem to take more chances than in the past. Maybe their DC figures he can since Westfield's offense has become so balanced and explosive. Love the fact that they've finally discovered they have 3 good receivers who are all over 6'3 and a QB who is better than everyone thought.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Math Guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 07:13PM

Time for my predictions for the top seeds. It is not who I think is better but how I think the numbers will come out. I wanted to see who won the WS/Annandale game because a WS win would give Centreville a boost.

The teams in the 5-10 grouping (approx 31 points) are bunched together and 1 win or loss by an oppenent could jump or drop them several spots. Since Division 5 losses don't hurt you if they are in your district and I am not sure who is in each district I will not go into detail but the teams I have in this group are LB, Battlefield/Patiot loser, WS, W&L, Hayfield & maybe Yorktown. Surprisingly I have Robinson below this group.

4th Seed

Battlefield/Patriot winner 33.1 points
Projected opponent records: 46-54

Pretty sure about his one. Since they play all district opponents it should not change

3rd Seed

South County 34.2 points
Projected opponents record: 42-58
If LB beats SC they could have 33.3 points and be the 3rd seed but it would be very close

2nd Seed

Westfield 35.3 points
Projected opponents record: 57-42

If LB beats SC it would increase to 35.4 points but I just don't see a way it could be higher since some of their non common opponents with Centreville play each other and one will win and one will lose.

1st Seed Centreville 35.44, 35.67 or 35.89 points
Projected opponents record: 54-36

W&L has potentially tough games with Wakefield and Yorktown. If they lost them both and LB beat SC Centreville would edge out Westfield 35.44 to 35.40 per my calculations. More likely W&L would win one or both of those games and Centreville's power points would be 35.67 or 35.89.

I have no idea who is going to win since SC has not been tested and Centreville's seemingly constant injury issues (what's the deal with AJ Turner?). Since there seems to be a large gap between the top three teams and the next level being the the number 1 seed and avoiding the other 2 until the finals is a clear advantage.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 07:53PM

cville being the #1 seed would not be fair to either westfield or soco

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Stop being a pussy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 08:51PM

I am no Cville or Westfield fan but if SOCO just played some tougher games they would not worry about seeding. Rules are rules so compete in way to take advantage and get good seed....VHSL is telling you by means of rules to schedule tougher opponents

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 09:03PM

Stop being a pussy Wrote:
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> I am no Cville or Westfield fan but if SOCO just
> played some tougher games they would not worry
> about seeding. Rules are rules so compete in way
> to take advantage and get good seed....VHSL is
> telling you by means of rules to schedule tougher
> opponents

You cannot know whether some team will have a good year when you schedule 2 years in advance

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: FauxCo ()
Date: October 25, 2014 09:27PM

south county guy Wrote:
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> cville being the #1 seed would not be fair to
> either westfield or soco


Sure it would. Its based on a mathematical rating. If that's how it turns out, that's how it turns out.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 09:45PM

FauxCo Wrote:
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> south county guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > cville being the #1 seed would not be fair to
> > either westfield or soco
>
>
> Sure it would. Its based on a mathematical rating.
> If that's how it turns out, that's how it turns
> out.

cville getting a better seed than a team with a better record and had already beaten them would not be fair

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 09:53PM

Just seen these matchups for next year
Gameday Nation @GBNMobile
Briar Woods 2015 Opponents:
Westfield, Chantilly, South County, Lee, West Potomac
Gameday Nation @GBNMobile
Stone Bridge 2015 Opponents:
Westfield, Chantilly, Robinson, Madison, Mclean.
Broad Run 2015 Opponents:
Centreville, Oakton, Wakefield, Robinson, Langley.
Gameday Nation @GBNMobile
Tuscarora 2015 Opponents:
Centreville, Oakton, Herndon, Hayfield, Edison

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:12PM

Wow! That is a fascinating development. That is going to be a ton of great games.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:21PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Wow! That is a fascinating development. That is
> going to be a ton of great games.

I totally agree. It will be great to see more 6A vs 5A teams. One of the interesting points is that Cville and Westfield both now have 2 5A games in their schedule, and South County has 1, and Lake Braddock is nowhere to be found.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: FauxCo ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:51PM

south county guy Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow! That is a fascinating development. That
> is
> > going to be a ton of great games.
>
> I totally agree. It will be great to see more 6A
> vs 5A teams. One of the interesting points is that
> Cville and Westfield both now have 2 5A games in
> their schedule, and South County has 1, and Lake
> Braddock is nowhere to be found.

South County will still have a district game against 5A Lee.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: I'm a whiny bitch ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:58PM

Simple law of jungle SOCO is you have to beat the Cvilles and Westfields of the world wherever and however if you want to be king....otherwise you can stay whiny ass bitches

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 26, 2014 12:23AM

Well ... they have

South County beat Centreville and Westfield (WF in playoffs) in 2009. They also played both teams pretty close in other games around that time. Soco also beat Robinson several years back, and have beaten Chantilly at least a couple of times.

Before you cry that these games were 5 years ago, I point out that many of the Concorde glories that keep being touted were as far back as these games, if not earlier.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: NoVAFootballfan ()
Date: October 26, 2014 09:01AM

soco Wrote:
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> Well ... they have
>
> South County beat Centreville and Westfield (WF in
> playoffs) in 2009. They also played both teams
> pretty close in other games around that time.
> Soco also beat Robinson several years back, and
> have beaten Chantilly at least a couple of times.
>
> Before you cry that these games were 5 years ago,
> I point out that many of the Concorde glories that
> keep being touted were as far back as these games,
> if not earlier.


What a little fucking whiner you are! Jeez Dude, Man up and just root for South County without whining about every comment that gets posted. South County will lose to either Centreville or Westfield in the playoffs. They play a soft schedule, they run the score up on people, these are the facts. They have an above average team and with their schedule that makes them undefeated.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 26, 2014 09:47AM

soco Wrote:
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> Well ... they have
>
> South County beat Centreville and Westfield (WF in
> playoffs) in 2009. They also played both teams
> pretty close in other games around that time.
> Soco also beat Robinson several years back, and
> have beaten Chantilly at least a couple of times.
>
> Before you cry that these games were 5 years ago,
> I point out that many of the Concorde glories that
> keep being touted were as far back as these games,
> if not earlier.

In 2009, they caught Centreville (3-7) and Westfield (6-4) in rare down seasons. You made your point, but a counterpoint could be that SoCo has never made it past the second round in 6A playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 26, 2014 10:43AM

but does any of that factor into this season? no it doesn't

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: FauxCo ()
Date: October 26, 2014 11:19AM

soco Wrote:
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> Well ... they have
>
> South County beat Centreville and Westfield (WF in
> playoffs) in 2009. They also played both teams
> pretty close in other games around that time.
> Soco also beat Robinson several years back, and
> have beaten Chantilly at least a couple of times.
>
> Before you cry that these games were 5 years ago,
> I point out that many of the Concorde glories that
> keep being touted were as far back as these games,
> if not earlier.

But does any of that factor into this season? No, it doesn't.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 26, 2014 11:43AM

Not trying to whine... the sentiment from the Concorde crowd is "South County needs to be able to beat the big boys/they never schedule anyone tough". I was simply stating a fact that they have beaten Concorde teams before and they schedule them every year.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 26, 2014 11:54AM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> RydelllRoad Wrote:
>
> > > > After 4 weeks my 6A North ranking of
> > top
> > > teams
> > > > is:
> > > >
> > > > Centreville #1
> > > > Robinson #2
> > > > Lake Braddock #3
> > > > South County #4
> > > > Patriot #5
> > > > Battlefield #6
> > > > Westfield #7
> > >
> > > My New Rankings after Week 5:
> > >
> > > Centreville #1
> > > Robinson #2
> > > Lake Braddock #3
> > > South County #4
> > > Westfield #5
> > > Battlefield #6
> > > Patriot #7
> >
> > Ranking after Week 7:
> > Centreville #1
> > Westfield #2
> > Robinson #3
> > Lake Braddock #4
> > South County #5
> > Battlefield #6
> > Patriot #7
> >
> > Not going by wins and losses - just who and how
> > they have played. Centreville will be OK -
> > especially when they get everyone healthy.
> > Westfield very very impressive in that upset
> over
> > Centreville. I probably have South County too
> low
> > but they just haven't played anybody yet.
> > Perfectly willing to rank them higher but they
> > have to get a big win over a top team first.
>
> Ranking after Week
> 8:

>
> Centreville #1 (not a particularly impressive win
> over a weak Oakton, but this was their 4th shutout
> win of the season)
> Westfield #2 (looked very good again vs.
> previously undefeated Robinson - if Evan Gray
> hadn't gotten hurt early this could have been a
> +28 pt blowout)
> South County #3 (with LB slipping badly, we won't
> know how good SoCo is until the playoffs)
> Robinson #4 (a tough, disciplined and well-coached
> team. was favorably impressed with their
> performance against Westfield w/o their starting
> QB)
> Battlefield #5 (have not seen them play - but they
> have had a better performance than Patriot against
> all common opponents)
> Patriot #6 (have not seen them play - still
> kicking myself for missing the Hylton-Patriot game
> - i was on my way but the wife forced me into
> other plans)
> Lake Braddock #7 (surely will beat T.C. W and Lee
> but will they make it a game against SC)

Ranking after Week 9:

1. Centreville
2. Westfield
3. South County
4. Battlefield
5. Robinson
6. Patriot
7. Lake Braddock
8. Hayfield
9. West Springfield

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 26, 2014 12:23PM

FauxCo Wrote:
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> soco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well ... they have
> >
> > South County beat Centreville and Westfield (WF
> in
> > playoffs) in 2009. They also played both teams
> > pretty close in other games around that time.
> > Soco also beat Robinson several years back, and
> > have beaten Chantilly at least a couple of
> times.
> >
> > Before you cry that these games were 5 years
> ago,
> > I point out that many of the Concorde glories
> that
> > keep being touted were as far back as these
> games,
> > if not earlier.
>
> But does any of that factor into this season? No,
> it doesn't.
i was trying to also infer that soco beating westfield/cville back in 09 does not have any effect on this year as well

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Concorde reality ()
Date: October 26, 2014 04:11PM

Robinson just lost two in a row and 7-0 to a bad oakton team. WS just beat up a solid Annandale team who kept it close against LB. WS also blew out oakton in scrimmage earlier this year 35-10.

Patriot has had a soft schedule in the old cardinal district

The top 3 teams are a level above everyone else

Soco may beat up on LB. Their dline is way too small and Soco wears you out with their uptempo. They got up on WS 14-0 on WS with 9:30 left in the 1st qtr. It was reasonable the rest of the way.

Sucks for Westfields. They have to go through Soco and Centreville twice to get out if the region.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Concorde reality ()
Date: October 26, 2014 04:12PM

That being said not sure why Rydell has LB and Robinson so high

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: lollol ()
Date: October 26, 2014 05:38PM

come on boy 2 Wrote:
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> This is the year for the Mt Vernon Majors
> boyyyyyyyyyy


lol

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Hendo ()
Date: October 26, 2014 05:54PM

Is 5-3 Hayfield at 6-2 Falls Church a big game this Friday night?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Northern region ()
Date: October 26, 2014 06:13PM

Hayfield wins by 3 tds or more

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Hendo ()
Date: October 26, 2014 06:31PM

3 Tds??

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Northern region ()
Date: October 26, 2014 06:42PM

FC was really up last year and hayfield was down and still won. Hayfield is better this year and FC is not as good as they were last year. All of hayfields losses came against the top 3 seeds

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: people of big lots ()
Date: October 26, 2014 07:18PM

Hendo Wrote:
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> Is 5-3 Hayfield at 6-2 Falls Church a big game
> this Friday night?

In the entire history of the National District I don't think Hayfield has lost to any other school except Yorktown and W-L. So historically speaking the odds are in Hayfield's favor. Falls Church thinks they can win big though, especially because this is the last year they will play Hayfield. The two schools will never meet again. Rots of ruck.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 26, 2014 08:18PM

Concorde reality Wrote:
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> That being said not sure why Rydell has LB and
> Robinson so high

Robinson beat Lake Braddock. They have been without their starting QB the last two weeks. Lake Braddock has wins over Stone Bridge and Westfield and been struggling with injuries also.

Going by VHSL power points its:

1. Westfield
2. Centreville
3. South County
4. Lake Braddock
4. Patriot
6. Battlefield
7. West Springfield
8. Hayfield
9. Robinson
10. Yorktown

Robinson v. Chantilly, Lake Braddock v. South County, Hayfield v. Falls Church this week will shake up the rankings.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Prince William county ()
Date: October 26, 2014 08:36PM

Game of the year is Patriot vs Battlefield the last week of the season. Both teams will be 8-1 going in to find out the district winner and big playoff implications on the line. 2 of the best quarterback/receiver duos in the state going at it. Battlefield's defense is superior but it should be one for the ages

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 26, 2014 08:54PM

Prince William county Wrote:
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> Game of the year is Patriot vs Battlefield the
> last week of the season. Both teams will be 8-1
> going in to find out the district winner and big
> playoff implications on the line. 2 of the best
> quarterback/receiver duos in the state going at
> it. Battlefield's defense is superior but it
> should be one for the ages

No. South County/Lake Braddock is more important than that game. It will influence the higher seeds more. but the game of the year already happened b/t Cville and Westfields

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 26, 2014 08:58PM

south county guy Wrote:
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> but the game of the year already happened
> b/t Cville and Westfields

This.

But nonetheless I plan to be at the Battlefield-Patriot game. How early do I need to show up to the game to get tickets? Will it be a sell-out?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: LB ()
Date: October 26, 2014 09:19PM


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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Football Fever ()
Date: October 26, 2014 10:02PM

If either Westfield or Cville win their next two games, there is no chance that SJ wins the top seed. The SOS is not strong enough compared to the other two

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Football Fever ()
Date: October 26, 2014 10:03PM

Sorry, SJ was meant to be SC and this was in response to the oct 17th post about South County obtaining top seed.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 27, 2014 10:12AM

are there any good games this week(besides SC/LB?)

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Remember the Titans? ()
Date: October 27, 2014 10:25AM

Good movie out about TCW

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: A Coach ()
Date: October 27, 2014 11:25AM

PowerPoints as of Week 9 with remaining opponents:

1. Westfield 33.13 (265) – Oakton, Chantilly
2. Centreville 33.00 (231) – Herndon, Robinson
3. South County 31.63 (253) – LB, Annandale
4. Lake Braddock 30.63 (245) – South County, Lee
4. Patriot 30.63 (245) – BYE, Battlefield
6. Battlefield 30.56 (275) – Bye, Patriot
7. West Springfield 29.88 (239) – TC, Woodson
8. Hayfield 28.63 (229) – Falls Church, Edison
9. Robinson 28.38 (227) – Chantilly, Centreville
10. Yorktown 27.75 (222) – Mt. Vernon, W&L
11. Annandale 26.25 (210) – West Potomac, South County
12. Washington-Lee 26.13 (209) – Wakefield, Yorktown
13. Chantilly 26.00 (208) – Robinson, Westfield
14. Oakton 25.75 (206) – Westfield, Herndon
15. Stonewall Jackson 25.44 (229) – Osbourn Park, Bye
16. McLean 25.38 (203) – TJ, Langley
-----------------------
17. Madison 24.75 (198) – Langley, Marshall
18. Herndon 24.63 (197) – Centreville, Oakton
19. Fairfax 24.25 (194) – stone Bridge, South Lakes
19. West Potomac 24.25 (194) – Annandale, TC
21. Langley 23.63 (189) – Madison, McLean
22. W.T. Woodson 22.38 (179) – Lee, W. Springfield
23. Osbourn 22.13 (177) – Patriot, Osbourn Park
24. T.C. Williams 21.38 (171) – West Springfield, West Potomac
25. South Lakes 19.75 (158) – Marshall, Fairfax
26. Osbourn Park 18.88 (151) – Stonewall, Osbourn

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: A Coach ()
Date: October 27, 2014 11:43AM

Which teams do you guys have on upset alert?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: VHSL Question ()
Date: October 27, 2014 01:29PM

Anyone have a clue what the tiebreaker is for teams that end the season with the same amount of power points? I can't find this anywhere on their website.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Logic ()
Date: October 27, 2014 01:59PM

Common sense would dictate when teams are tied in power points it would come down to teams both have played and if that doesn't work then strength of schedule. At least that's what makes the most sense to me

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Denzel Washington ()
Date: October 27, 2014 02:39PM

A Coach Wrote:
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> Which teams do you guys have on upset alert?


Remember the Titans?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Titans ()
Date: October 27, 2014 05:50PM

Titans lose 59-7 this weekend to WS

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: Titans ()
Date: October 27, 2014 05:52PM

49*

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 27, 2014 09:22PM

what happened over there at TC?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: FC ()
Date: October 27, 2014 09:39PM

south county guy Wrote:
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> what happened over there at TC?


Speaking of which, how can the largest school in the state be mostly uncompetitive?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: soco rocks ()
Date: October 27, 2014 10:28PM

South County Guy question Wrote:
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> south county guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the only problem i would have with this system
> is
> > if centreville gets the #1 seed with 2 losses
> and
> > an unbeaten team doesnt get that seed
>
> What would SC's record be if they played
> Centreville's schedule with injuries to a number
> of their key players?


10-0

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: FauxCo ()
Date: October 27, 2014 11:03PM

soco rocks Wrote:
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> South County Guy question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > south county guy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > the only problem i would have with this
> system
> > is
> > > if centreville gets the #1 seed with 2 losses
> > and
> > > an unbeaten team doesnt get that seed
> >
> > What would SC's record be if they played
> > Centreville's schedule with injuries to a
> number
> > of their key players?
>
>
> 10-0

Haha, okay buddy. They're 9-0 now because they've played TWO teams with winning records. Not to mention their dirty style, I can't wait to see them get stomped in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: hJyjL ()
Date: October 27, 2014 11:28PM

what exactly do they do that's dirty? Hit hard? Say mean words?

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Re: High School Football 2014
Posted by: JMO ()
Date: October 28, 2014 01:43AM

they don't have a dirty style... just love running the score up. (nothing wrong with that, I would try to hang 70 on everybody if I was a HC)
with that being said, SC won't make it past CVILLE or WESTFIELD

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