NewHorizon Wrote:
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> You're quoting out of context Wrote:
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> > Why don't you post
> > your exact question to Kris that generated that
> > quoted reply so everyone can see the context
> > you're quoting??
>
> Probably outing myself, but...
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>
> Thanks for writing back. I do sincerely
> appreciate it. I accept that the PTA policies
> will stand as-is. But then yes, I would like to
> ask for further assistance and urge you (plural)
> to please have a closer look at Boosterthon Fun
> Runs and Apex Fun Runs.
>
> Not only are the children indeed the ones who
> actually call friends and relatives to directly
> solicit pledges - contrary to what you wrote - but
> some also put up public Youtube videos of
> themselves to solicit pledges for each lap they
> run. This they do this at the suggestion of the
> fundraising organization. See:
> http://www.boosterthon.com/pledgesecrets/
>
> Example of a child's solicitation video:
> https://funrun.com/sponsor/a6e4b79384c682a557a87a8
> c8e2e1bed07682c6d
>
> Given that the National PTA policies will stand,
> would the National PTA be in a position to bring
> this to the attention of state, district, and/or
> school PTAs so that the school PTAs are made aware
> they are out of compliance?
>
> And then if you go back to that funrun.com page
> and click on the "Email" link at the top-center of
> the page, your Email program will pop open and
> show Kaylee's full name which was entered by the
> parent who was almost certainly unaware of this
> exposure. If your web browser is not configured
> to open Email (nothing happens when you click
> "Email"), then you'll need to search through all
> that HTML code by pressing ctrl-u and then in the
> new window that pops up, use ctrl-f to find
> Kaylee's name. After about the 5th or 6th
> occurrence, you'll see her last name.
>
> Let me also mention that each Fun Run program
> entails having staff from the fundraising
> organizations enter the schools and address the
> kids for a period of time during normal school
> hours for about 7 consecutive school days.
>
> [Kris], if I may be so bold, the National PTA has
> a reputation for kicking issues down to the
> state-level PTAs. But rather than have
> state-by-state patchwork solutions for these
> issues, I would like to respectfully suggest that
> the National PTA is the only organization who can
> step up and comprehensively address these
> important issues on a national level in support of
> its primary role as child advocate? Please let me
> know.
>
> =====
> ... where "what you wrote" is what
PTAMOM
> also received and is posted here:
>
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/113
> 6940/page-8.html#msg-1821285
>
> The first line of Kris' response to this is,
> "It’s definitely something for us to ponder.
> Thanks for raising the issue. "
>
> (The issue with revealing children's family names
> at funrun.com has since been remedied as mentioned
> at
>
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?2
> ,1687747,1833272,page=2#msg-1833272 .)
>
>
OK, your turn to be transparent...?
To address this part in your email to Kris "Not only are the children indeed the ones who actually call friends and relatives to directly solicit pledges - contrary to what you wrote":
"contrary to what you wrote"...so even Kris knows that parents are the driver in these fundraisers and only involve the kids if they as parents choose to.
Thank you for being transparent and posting your email to Kris. Judging by your email, it's apparent that you've been quoting Kris out of context as if she agrees with your position. Yet it's apparent that she doesn't. And also apparent that you definitely are the "overly persistent person". Her reply to you is a standard thanks for your email now on to the next thing sort of reply.
Kris is very aware of these sorts of programs and thinks they are a neat idea and supports the character education component that is included with them.
A previous poster mentioned how the liberal mindset works. Your posts are a prime example of that.
I do commend you for posting that email though, even though by doing so you had to have known that it sheds light on the fact that Nat PTA doesn't strongly agree with you as you've been implying.
Many parents and many PTA's support these healthy fundraisers and love the fact that it includes a character education component. If you don't like it that's your prerogative.