Who is the favorite to win OPOY and DPOY in the region next year?

MJ Stewart Yorktown, Demornay Pierson-El West Po, and or Joe Wilson Robinson, Who actually led the entire DC Metro in rushing and touchdowns.

Is there no longer a dominate name on the defensive side anymore? No Jon Allens out there in the region? Also, Mj stewart will be hard to beat, seeing that he might get just as many touches at Joe Wilson this year.

WHS-----
So, wha would have been the winning formula for the Bulldogs in the NR CHampionship game vs. Oakton this year? I am curious as to your thoughts?

WHS Wrote:
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> As a former WHS football player, I was on the
> sideline the past two years and what I saw was
> this. Our kids looked straight slow out of the
> gate, and when they would be on defense, the
> D-line could not get off the ball, also they could
> not hit to save their lives.
>
> I'm not bagging on my old team, but the regional
> championship teams of the past two years have not
> played well and have done the exact same thing,
> they ran the ball and they did not use their play
> makers on the outside. They became predictable and
> all Oakton and Centreville had to do was stop the
> run and the game was basically in hand.
>
> For those of you who remember C-ville v.
> Westfield, C-ville was winning 27-10 before WHS
> started passing the ball and got the ball in the
> hands of their playmakers, they scored 14 points
> VERY quickly once they did that. So my hat goes
> off to Simmons for firing the inept Offensive
> Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator!


Get used to the lack of quality play from Westfield. They got nothing coming back, I don't care what these homers say. Cville is the team to beat, hands down! Everyone knows they are bringing back all their top players off of a playoff team from last year.

Who are the best and most respected coaches in northern virginia?

WCAC Wrote:
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> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?

Mark Bendorf before he retired. He was the former Robinson Head Coach. He also Coached at Chantilly.

Jason Rowley at Oakton is respected and So is his staff. They have been together for a long time and do great things with less talent than the other Concorde schools.

Really.... Wrote:
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> Jason Rowley at Oakton is respected and So is his
> staff. They have been together for a long time and
> do great things with less talent than the other
> Concorde schools.


They got lucky last year, let's see what they can do this year!

Seriously? Rowley?

Cmon, chris haddock has got to be considered one of the best coaches around. He built fairfax into a servicable program and is now leading one of the best programs in the state in centreville. Fairfax was pure SHITTY before he took over. A trip to the state finals in 2011, wont be the last time we make that trip.

#wildcatnation

How come there is never love for Bruce Hanson from Yorktown. The guy has over 200 career victories, not including develpoing talent up there at Yorktown. I have to give him a lot of credit

God bless America - Haddock sucks. He was terrible at fairfax. Where do you get he was a savior. They had to leave the Concorde case they couldn't compete. He went 0-10 at Chantilly before he went to fairfax. He inherited a group of players that had 20 varsity games as juniors because Gerry Panoni had the smart sense to play those kids early and develop them. He has better athletes than any othe Concorde school. He should win 2state titles but he won't. He is an ass on the sidelines. He got out coached in the regional semi game this year. His style can't compete with the beach. That's why they got rolled.

Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4) since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term equals quality. Westfield should also be recognized for their quality program. Haddock has 1 really good year and he is the second coming. Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of young men.

Yorktown never has to play anybody that's why. That will change now that they are d6. If they continue to win he will get a ton of respect. He is respected as a coach but he is thought of as an ass.

Poythress from Lake Braddock has to be in the mix. They have been one of the Top 4 teams in the Northern Region for the last 4 years. 2 NR Championships, 1 NR semi, 1 state runner-up, 1 state semi.

The best coaches are the ones who coach at Marshall, Falls Church, Stuart, MV, and Wakefield. These coaches don't have the resources and talent the schools above do. Atleast not as much talent as the coaches that get their butt holes licked non-stop on this website.

Those teams don't win games

Pannoni at South County.

WCAC Wrote:
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> Who are the best and most respected coaches in
> northern virginia?


Seriously.....all these replies and not one mention of Tom Verbanic? Are you kidding. Anyone who knows this guy or had a kid coached by this guy knows he is by far the most respected coach, as well as a fair, honest and decent guy.

I agree about Verbanic, I think that he is not in the conversation because he left public school. Because he is now coaching at Flint Hill he is not part of the discussion.

He is a great coach, no doubt.

Really... Wrote:
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> God bless America - Haddock sucks. He was terrible
> at fairfax. Where do you get he was a savior. They
> had to leave the Concorde case they couldn't
> compete. He went 0-10 at Chantilly before he went
> to fairfax. He inherited a group of players that
> had 20 varsity games as juniors because Gerry
> Panoni had the smart sense to play those kids
> early and develop them. He has better athletes
> than any othe Concorde school. He should win
> 2state titles but he won't. He is an ass on the
> sidelines. He got out coached in the regional semi
> game this year. His style can't compete with the
> beach. That's why they got rolled.
>
> Oakton has the most D6 northern region titles (4)
> since 2000. That speaks for itself. Long term
> equals quality. Westfield should also be
> recognized for their quality program. Haddock has
> 1 really good year and he is the second coming.
> Btw- if he could have gotten a dean of students
> job at Robinson he would have jumped ship. He
> doesn't want to teach. That's not a leader of
> young men.


Dude what is your hard on for Haddock? Did he beat you when you coached against him or he didn't play your talentless son while he was at Fairfax? He has done a great job wherever he has gone.. making each place better while he was there. You mention Chantilly... was he ever the Head Coach there?

You just sound bitter and whiny .. support your argument with the truth or go away.

Coached against Coach Hansen at Yorktown occasionally over the years and I can assure you that you will be hard pressed to find any coach in Northern VA over the past 27 years that does not think highly of him.

Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge - despite the recent incident after this year's D5 Championship game) are/were three of the most respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.

JustaCoach Wrote:
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> Coached against Coach Hansen at Yorktown
> occasionally over the years and I can assure you
> that you will be hard pressed to find any coach in
> Northern VA over the past 27 years that does not
> think highly of him.
>
> Coach Verbanic (I'm biased), Coach Lewis, formerly
> of Edison, and Coach Thompson (Stone Bridge -
> despite the recent incident after this year's D5
> Championship game) are/were three of the most
> respected by their peers in Northern Virginia.


What was the incident with Coach Thompson after the D-5 Championship game? I missed that one.....?

Good call on Vaughn Lewis. He kind of pulled a Joe Gibbs type deal in HS where he coached for many years, won a state championship, then left some few years later. Once he left, Randolph had maybe 1 decent year but he ran that program back into the ground when it had tons of athletes there despite being a small school. Once Lewis came back he took them to the top just a few short years later and had what some might call a D-5 dynasty where Edison was consistently district champs, competing against Stone Bridge it seemed evey year for the region, and even got them back to the state title game where they fell short. Hell of a coach and even better guy. Edison once again didn't follow his lead and hire within when it came to his predecesor and look what happened. Back in the sinkhole.

Zippy Wrote:
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> Pannoni at South County.


Crazy-one winning season at Lee, then took loaded team at WTW and ran it into ground second year and his grand achievement. Only coach ever to not win at Centreville. Follow up by taking Bendorf players and winning with them. Shady as can be, remember the supsension at Lee for illegal practice?

IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration after another emotional loss to a team from the Beach in the state finals. It may have involved a State runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a suspension or more but settled with SB admin on a quiet fine...

JustaCoach Wrote:
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> IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration after
> another emotional loss to a team from the Beach in
> the state finals. It may have involved a State
> runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> suspension or more but settled with SB admin on a
> quiet fine...


They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.

Yorktown Wrote:
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> Yorktown never has to play anybody that's why.
> That will change now that they are d6. If they
> continue to win he will get a ton of respect. He
> is respected as a coach but he is thought of as an
> ass.

Yorktown was decent this year for D5. In playoffs, I saw them wax SoCo, which got 2nd in the Patriot. Small and no depth but good speed. I could see why WaPo ranked them. Concorde teams have way more depth, I guess from enrollments, feeder programs and tradition. It will be tough for Yorktown to win in the new system but Stewart (all met RB) will be worth watching again.

2001_player Wrote:
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.


They actually burned the Thompson Cup!?!?! What is wrong with people.

2001_player Wrote:
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> JustaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMO is wasn't a big deal - just frustration
> after
> > another emotional loss to a team from the Beach
> in
> > the state finals. It may have involved a State
> > runner-up trophy and a trash can. VHSL wanted a
> > suspension or more but settled with SB admin on
> a
> > quiet fine...
>
>
> They burned the State Runner Up Trophy.

Not a Big Deal?? You must be a Thompson fan then. What kind of an example of Sportsmanship is this from the Head Coach of your football team. I can see it now "Gentleman congratulations on a great year and a great effort today.... Here is the State Runner Up Trophy". Fuck that! we didn't come here for second... In fact where's the trash can, here's how much I care about second place.

I wonder if he did it before or after the press conference? I would love to see his responses to his teams year now knowing he burned the trophy. What a Fucking Loser. Of course the SB admin sounds like they tried to cover it up as best they could. YEA what a leader and example of young men.

This may be a sacrilege to post on a football forum, but I recall a similar incident by the TJ band director quite a few years ago (over 20 at least). The TJ band was in some kind of marching band competition and had won 1st place for a number of years. So this one particular year they came in second, so when the band director went out and accepted the 2nd place trophy, in front of everyone, he walked over to a trash can and threw the trophy in the trash saying something like "TJ doesn't come in second" It blew up into a huge deal, reported in papers and news all over the country. I heard that the principal was getting calls from as far away as the west coast.

slubdawg Wrote:
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> This may be a sacrilege to post on a football
> forum, but I recall a similar incident by the TJ
> band director quite a few years ago (over 20 at
> least). The TJ band was in some kind of marching
> band competition and had won 1st place for a
> number of years. So this one particular year they
> came in second, so when the band director went out
> and accepted the 2nd place trophy, in front of
> everyone, he walked over to a trash can and threw
> the trophy in the trash saying something like "TJ
> doesn't come in second" It blew up into a huge
> deal, reported in papers and news all over the
> country. I heard that the principal was getting
> calls from as far away as the west coast.


Yeah, but Stone Bridge needs to come in first for a number of years in order for the stories to be comparible.

Who is the worst coach in the northern region?

Concerned Parent

Concerned Parent... Wrote:
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> Who is the worst coach in the northern region?


I am guessing you want everyone to say the Coach who is not playing your kid?

ROBO FOR STATES 2013

The Green Days are coming up and I know some kids will use these as opportunities to showcase their skills for College coaches. Anyone know the schedules of some of the local schools?

All HS are allowed X number of green days to use whenever they like except during planned VHSL wide down periods.Schedule is up to individual schools

What teams are in the new "North" portion of the football reclassification? I heard that the "South" actually includes Hylton and all the Woodbridge / Garfield teams, is this true?

If it is, the "South" would include the Tidewater area, Richmond area and most of the old Northwest Region.

Alignment - 2013-15

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%2033-final-adopted-conference-alignment-plan-for-2013-14-and-2014-15.pdf

Hearing some rumors from pretty valid sources that dan meier will become the new robinson head coach after he announces his retirement from principal. anybody else hearing this as well? makes sense since they still have yet to hire a head coach

The whole things stinks it's all about the coaches and their egos not the kids

This sucks! Why didn't they hire Coach Vossler or Coach Matthie?

There going to hire an old guy who will likely retire in 3 years anyways.

Wow.

I cannot believe that FCPS could allow somebody to fire a coach and then take the position himself. That seems absurd.

I can't believe FCPS allowed trey Taylor to coach high school football. Meier would be the best thing for this program to recover after it was torn down by trey

Haddock is still waiting for his "Dream Job" at Chantilly to open 2014.
Bendorf & Everett will have the stingiest defense in the region this season by way of Westfield.
Oakton might be 4-6 this year with a lot of luck.
Herndon will upset some folks this year.
Robinson is waiting on a principal to be hired first.
and those other teams that were D5 last year with the exception of SC will be crushed in post season play when they face the weakest CONCORDE team !!

Centreville will win the concorde followed by Chantilly,Robinson,Westfield,Oakton,Herndon

In the northern region, what are the most run offensive and defensive schemes? Who has the most success with what?

It is wide open in fairfax county.

On O Teams run spread, wing t, zone, power, option, air raid, single wing, superpower, I, and the lst goes on.

D is the same. Teams run 43, 44,42,52, 335, 34, 353, all with zone and man packages.

The best examples for O: westfield is a zone team. Centreville is wing t, Oakton is spread option, and Braddock is spread w some air raid.

Braddock isnt air raid. they run everything!

Not sure i would call the region wide open. there is a little variation, but it stays pretty conservative on both sides of the ball at the top.

Where are some of the Northern region class of 2013 players, playing next year?

I have been watching Braddock for a few years now. They are mostly 3,4,or 5 wide and throw short passes to the slots. That's an air raid offense. Very similar to Houston or Leech's Texas Tech. It was Renner ran at west Springfield. They do run some, but nobody would call them a running team.

Tt Wrote:
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> I can't believe FCPS allowed trey Taylor to coach
> high school football. Meier would be the best
> thing for this program to recover after it was
> torn down by trey


There is no way Meir will be coaching this team, at least what is left of it. Word is any players are on the way out or already gone. This is a gigantic screwup to make them wait this long for a coach and probably miss Green Days and the opportunity to install the new Coaches systems.

Who is LB Coach Proythress recruiting this year? With Robinson in disarray is he plucking anyone from there? Any new info on where kids maybe transferring to? Last thing I heard Wilson was gone from Robinson.

Heard that Wilson is not playing due to bad grades and that Poythress snatched Peirson El away from west pot.

Bad grades keeping Wilson from playing? VIA his parents? Please elaborate your rumor because academic eligibility for the fall is based on second semester. 3rd quarter is not even over. So either you’re a troll or an idiot, you choose.

Thats just what I heard idk the details, so since no one denied Peirson El's transfer to LB it must be true.

Pierson-el isn't going anywhere. Why would he want to go someplace and take a backseat to the QB? Sure, he could move to receiver, one of FIVE! Why would he want less of a spotlight than what he'll get at West Potomac?

The robinson coaching staff will probally make amir ebrahimi as their new coach! Hes a very good coach and has expireience! Expect robinson to be good this upcoming year!

Joe Wilson would get better grades if he didn't ditch school so often. Robinson gives him a pass on his bad behavior..Coach Taylor treated him like a diva.

Again amir ebrahimi will be the new coach! Just a tip! He has already been hired! And i talked to him and he said he will not tolerate bad grades!

Well i believe that a freak athlete receiver/running back would transfer to lb considering that lb has enough talent to make it to states and one of the top qb's in the nation, if anything he would get more looks by making a Pierson-El Henderson combo that would put him right in the spotlight, and just cause they run 5 wide doesnt mean that they wont just throw the ball to him 20 times a game. Plus Pierson-El only chance to make it big is at receiver, so lb would be the right move. But that doesnt mean he is going there.

Watch out for Falls Church this year, they have some great returning talent on both sides of the ball. The offense is led by WR Jordan Coneys, who was 1st team all district and 2nd team all region as a jr, Sophomore Will Mejia was national district utility POY. Qb Adam Daly and RB Dieon Dupont are both very good players. The defense is led by stud all district DE/LB Fabrice Mulumba who is recieving a lot of college interest and is probably the most disruptive returning defensive player in the district. Falls Church has always had great athletes, especially in recent memory with the 09-10 team led by Marcus Hughes, Patrick Williams and Kevin Mulumba. But every season it seems to be the same story and as an alumn it breaks my heart because the players, students, and community of FC deserve more. My point being; All these kids are going to be 3 year starters and can bring the prideful Falls Church community a playoff berth.

They will suck again!

Not buying it either. I'll admit Falls Church has good individual players each season, but this discussion is had every year and the team as a whole is never good.

Dan Meier was just named Interim Head Coach at Robinson.

RamDad Wrote:
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> Dan Meier was just named Interim Head Coach at
> Robinson.


Does it really matter who the Coach is? The cupboard is bare at Robinson. It is kind of funny that this guy fires the Head Coach and then retires and takes the job. Sounds like there were quite a few folks on here who saw this coming!

Ya, this plan was hatched awhile ago. Meier most definitely has the best resume but the way this went down is sleezy. I can't believe that the county is willing to deal with the negative PR over this. Meier will be successful next year. The team returns quite a bit of talent. In fact most coaches would win 7-8 games with this team. It shocks me that Robinson/Meier don't think that people can connect the dots.

When do the Spring Practices for local High Schools begin? Do they run them like College Spring Practices (so many days allowed in a set amount of time?) Are they allowed to be in pads? Can anyone come watch?

VAFootballfan Wrote:
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> When do the Spring Practices for local High
> Schools begin? Do they run them like College
> Spring Practices (so many days allowed in a set
> amount of time?) Are they allowed to be in pads?
> Can anyone come watch?


^^^This is a pedophile post, no doubt.

You going out to watch the sweaty boys? Hmmmmmmm?

Most of the posts on this thread are pedo-men who likey the boys

So much fun looking forward to football at West Springfield. 4 years of driving a program in the ground followed by hiring the basketball coach as football coach. Could not find anyone to take the football job because football has been trashed by the previous 'coach'. And no one wants to work with a clown athletic director. It is nice watching all the area teams compete in regionals this Spring while WS has nothing. But the AD will still get paid and keep his job. No accountability- just an old boy's network that is more concerned with protecting each other than results. From the cheating principal on down- WS is rotten from the top. Academics and discipline are getting hammered worse than sports, but who cares? The admins are getting paid and having fun.

I find it quite sad that some people don't understand what is really important in life. Before trashing WS's academics and/or athletics, lets remember one thing. The school/athletic dept just lost an amazing young man that brought this community together in an astounding way. As an alumnus of WS, I followed the progress of what Jordan's diagnosis did to the students and athletes at the school. They came together when one of their family members was battling a very serious disease. To see how the community came together through this shows the REAL meaning of WS and what it means to be a Spartan. Its not the wins and losses on the football field...bc in my opinion, seeing how they came together over the last year....they all won in the end! While I understand full the importance of winning on the field (especially in Northern Va), these kids will take MUCH MORE from the experience that Jordan brought them. Congrats to WS as a school, as an athletic department and as the family that they are!! Parents that are worried about the wrong things only miss out in seeing the real importance of life lessons. Blessings to all. Even the parents that will still not see the point in anything that I said.

Been watching West Springfields new head coach and staff the past few days at a team camp. What a joke. They have no clue what they are doing. The HC is always down on players. Openly making fun of them, screaming at them, and insulting them. Today he called a group of kids a bunch of donkeys. It is going to be a long year.

WS will go 1-9 this season. They need Howells.

Bring him on. WS needs a high calibar coach like Howells. He'll teach great football and win games. We was unappreciated at faifax, with those clown coaches on the varsity staff.

Centreville
Lake Braddock

Are the teams which are going to take away from each and everyone for sure...
http://www.worldshottestdrivers.com/shop-s/37.htm

I have heard that several Concorde teams have rising seniors that are being recruited by Div I schools. Can anyone confirm? Other than Martey at Cville and Wilson at Robinson, what Class of 2014 Concorde players are even remotely Divison I material?

Spartanpride-

What does pointing out what a joke WS sports are due to their clueless DSS and equally inept principal have to do with Jordan? Jordan will be an inspiration to all who knew him for the rest of their lives. It was a heartbreaking experience watching him deal with his illness. Through it all he was always upbeat in conversations. Not sure why you would tie the two together.

BTW- wins and losses are a small part of the equation- the WS athletic dept is failing to teach kids that effort, performance and pride matter in competition. They do not strive to get the best coaches ( they could not anyway), they do not instill a sense of pride in the teams, and they do not hold kids accountable. Other than that they are doing a great job. It remains to be seen if the only guy they could find to take the football job will work out. But his enthusiasm alone makes him a step up from the past. Why the previous babysitter was allowed to stay for 4 years is a testament to the old boys network in FCPS.

Whatever happened to Mount Vernon? They had a good run in the late 1990s under Coach Riddle and the early 2000s, and they haven't been heard from since. What gives??

It's not that Mount Vernon is a bad team or anything (they usually a pretty athletic team, by the way), its just that more teams have been on the rise in the area in the past years. Teams like Westfield, Stone Bridge, Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson and Lake Braddock are the usual powerhouses that go to regionals or states. One of the main reasons (or two) these schools due well is that they have a bigger enrollment than Mount Vernon or that fact those kids have been playing football with each since they were very young (i.e. playing together in little league football). Since Mount Vernon is in Division 5, they had to worry about teams like Stone Bridge, Hayfield (now in d6), South County (d6 now), Yorktown (d6 now), Langley (d6 now) and Madison (d6 now) because they usually go make it to the d5 playoffs.

2008 was one of the last years that Mount Vernon was really good. They finished 8-2 in the regular season and were runner-ups in the National district to the Edison Eagles. They even made it to the semi finals in the d5 playoffs that year before getting beat by Stone Bridge.

Mount Vernon won states back in my day lol not saying my age.

So how do y'all think Langley's going to do? They took a step forward last season by winning their first playoff game in awhile, but most of their talent were seniors. They still have some studs on defense and I'm expecting big things from Kevin Fisher. Nick Casso has also taken steps into becoming a top 3 qb in the district. And Because of Coach Howerton it can be expected that they'll have a decent line so if they can get a running game going then it might be tough to stop them down the stretch. Their schedule is bottom heavy which is a plus, I can potentially see them going 7-3. My money is on them being the dark horse this season.

Dark Horse in the Liberty will be South Lakes. They return more than any other team in the district. If they find a QB, they'll be dangerous.

If Westfield finds a QB to replace last years starter, it will be them again.The question will be can they seal the deal in the Region finals.

Have we all forgot about Centreville? They will not lose a game this year!

Oakton should be in the mix, their defense will be solid, and their offense will be bolstered by some transfers at the skill positions.

But I have to agree that Cville will be the class of the Northern Region

Centreville will win 6A North. who knows if they win the state, but they clearly are the class of the region. And for the people who have no idea about the realignment, gameday has a good article about it.

Madison will go 8-2, fact.

The Man1965 Wrote:
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> Madison will go 8-2, fact.

Are you serious? Madison HS is now playing with the Big Boys and will get abused. Welcome to 6A football Warhawks, instead of just playing Oakton every year and getting Bitch slapped. You get to play the rest of the Concorde and get gang raped! Plan in the next few years playing about 3-4 Homecoming games for the Westfields, Centrevilles and Robinsons of the world. Bye Bye 5A football schedule, hello pain and suffering in the 6A world.

Any chance we will ever hear from the Robert E. Lee Lancers ever again? Moved down to 5A but will still remain a terrible team.

You want a darkhorse? Watch out for TC Williams. They are going to have a good defense and if their offense can avoid the mistakes that usually plague them, they have enough athletes in the skill positions to make it interesting. They have the two best DTs in the area and a very active linebacking corps.

You know, I know someone who was sooooo gung ho about highschool football. He played it, he coached it after highschool, he even mentioned it in his memory lane during a highschool reunion. Do you know what he does now?????


HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!

al bundy Wrote:
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> You know, I know someone who was sooooo gung ho
> about highschool football. He played it, he
> coached it after highschool, he even mentioned it
> in his memory lane during a highschool reunion.
> Do you know what he does now?????
>
>
> HE WORKS FOR THE TSA, LOL!!!!!!!!


What's really funny is you are still bat shit scared of the guy and worried that he might find out you posted this about him!!........ NOW THATS FUNNY!

Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored on their first two possessions with ease mixing up the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and they were getting blown off the ball most of the game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back, freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He didn't have much running room at all that night and I think his biggest run came against second stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their drives all stalled after that. From talking with people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49 and Oakton 0.

Zerin, Vector, Cutco, TSA, all places where former jocks and cheerleaders end up.

Even Target won't take them. Former jocks steal food from fast food places so they can't work there either.

Saw Oakton scrimmage last week and their defense didn't look good at all. Their line was slow and their secondary couldn't cover anyone. Their offense looked even worst and it looks like Downer's replacement has his work cut out for him. I don't look for them to have more than a 5-5 record at best.

"You want a darkhorse"

That's RACIST!

NOVABall Wrote:
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> Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison
> HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton
> looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored
> on their first two possessions with ease mixing up
> the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line
> was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and
> they were getting blown off the ball most of the
> game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to
> roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some
> awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in
> the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop
> Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back,
> freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big
> plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback
> (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He
> didn't have much running room at all that night
> and I think his biggest run came against second
> stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed
> the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their
> drives all stalled after that. From talking with
> people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49
> and Oakton 0.


Let's fix about half of what you stated on here (and the other thread too, which points out that you are either a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan). Yes Hylton whipped up on Oakton (they looked very sharp actually) and Oakton did not have a good showing. Hylton is a legit preseason state championship contender in 6A and every coach knows it. Their team (which is roughly the same as last year) clearly outsized an Oakton team that had to almost replace their entire offense and was missing two defensive starters. Now even if Oakton played well on both sides of the ball I still think Hylton would have beaten them soundly. Now the score was nowhere near 49-0, the score at half was something in the neighborhood of 20-0 which had both teams running their 1st teams at full speed, and the third quarter was a start of putting in backups and the 4th quarter was both sides JV teams it looked like. The final score would have probably been 32-0 or around that mark. Remember that last year Oakton scrimmaged Hylton and the score was actually worse last year than it was this year yet both teams reached state playoffs in their respective regions. Oakton should perform better and yes their defense is a lot better than they showed. 5-5 will not happen, I would say 3 losses for them on the season with another strong playoff performance. Remember everyone said they were a joke going into the playoffs and look what happened.

Well, you got the first half correct, Hylton was up 20-0. I watched the film yesterday online and this is how the scoring happened for Hylton.

#2 pass to #14 - PAT missed
#2 pass to #7 - PAT good
#2 pass to #1 - PAT good

For the second half Hylton scored three more times with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.

#2 run - PAT good
#20 run - PAT good
#24 run - PAT good

Final 48-0...so I was one point off.

I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area and we go to games a lot. I was making an very good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton isn't that good. I saw more from them last season with their scrimmages than this season. Losing Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly, Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what happened last week.

Score correction 41-0...so I was 8 points off. I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

NOVABall Wrote:

> For the second half Hylton scored three more times
> with all three scores coming in the 4th quarter.
>
> #2 run - PAT good
> #20 run - PAT good
> #24 run - PAT good

> I'm not a disgruntled parent, Concorde rival, or
> LB fan. I actually take offense to the LB comment
> because I dont like Eric Henderson and Jim
> Poythress couldn't coach his way out of a box when
> he was at Gar-field. My kids play around the area
> and we go to games a lot. I was making an very
> good observation on what I saw and that is Oakton
> isn't that good. I saw more from them last season
> with their scrimmages than this season. Losing
> Kyle Downer really hurts and this new kid has his
> work cut out for him. So, maybe you're right and
> 5-5 is a stretch...but then again do you honestly
> think they can beat West Potomac, Chantilly,
> Centreville, Robinson or Westfield with what
> happened last week.


Technically, the starters played a 20-0 game (35-0 last year). Hylton did leave the big boys in until the end of the 3rd quarter. Oakton's defense is better than what they showed and the offense was not clicking at all, so yes let's agree there. I really think Hylton will make it to the show this year, but winning it is another story that I won't predict as Ocean Lakes, Centreville and Oscar Smith will probably stand in the way.

Glad to hear you aren't any of the names I mentioned and I actually respect you more for the LB comment!!! Robinson will be a close game as will Chantilly (split those so 1-1). West Pot should honestly be a win for Oakton even with Pierson-el. I will chalk up Westfield and Centreville as losses during the season. This is how I came to my conclusion of 3 losses. You're observation is good in points, but missing some details still in regards to when points were scored (4th quarter was all JV kids or backups so let's squash that whole quarter), Oakton was missing some players (not an excuse just stating fact), and it was the first time the offense had really worked against another opponent together (9/10 new starters compared to last year's championship team). Look for Oakton to have a much better showing during the season.