Found not guilty this morning.

http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/defendant-in-wyatt-campbell-murder-trial-found-not-guilty

So who commited the murder? The same one who killed Nicole Simpson , The Jew waiter and little baby Anthony?

They probably could have gotten him on manslaughter.

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That was included in the charges.

to meph Wrote:
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> That was included in the charges.

What? He was being tried for murder 2. The defense tried initially to have the charge reduced to voluntary manslaughter (which I think would have stuck), but the prosecution held out for murder 2.

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Voluntary manslaughter was a lesser included charge.

Anyway, Wyatt didn't have a record for drugs, or any record for that matter. And he wasn't ever on the police radar.
Those are facts, not fiction.
So what? Didn't mean that he wasn't a violent individual who sold drugs, you must be isolated from the area, it was common knowledge. Doesn't mean that he was not on the police radar, they just didn't get to him before he decided to continue with his act of violence toward others. BUT Will, Josh; and many others are still definitely on the radar! Neighbors are also watching...

And as much as we are tired of all these boys actions in our neighborhood, hearts will always go out to Ms. Fuller and can only hope that Will has learned something, doubtful but hopeful.

UPDATED: Defendant in Wyatt Campbell Murder Trial Found Not Guilty
The jury reached a verdict after about six hours of deliberation.
By William Callahan
http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/defendant-in-wyatt-campbell-murder-trial-found-not-guilty

Updated (July 8 1:45 p.m.): After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.

Jury members were not available for comment after the trial. The defendant let out a small sigh of relief upon hearing the verdict, while several members of the Campbell party left the courtroom in tears.

Deliberations started Thursday afternoon and continued Friday morning. The jury reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.

The defendant had been standing trial for the October 14, 2010 stabbing death of 18-year-old Wyatt Campbell, a Rose Hill resident.

Defendant’s Brother Held for Contempt

Before the verdict was read, Judge Brett A. Kassabian demanded order in the courtroom, telling both parties that any outbursts or disruptions upon hearing the verdict would be dealt with “severely.”

But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started clapping.

Once the defendant had been escorted out of the courtroom, Kassabian gave David a chance to explain himself. David said he was happy for his brother, and that his brother hadn’t deserved to be there.

Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail. “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,” Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”

While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands, David looked at Campbell’s party and said, “Who’s laughing now, b----?”

Angered, Kassabian called the statement “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional time.

The defendant was sent back to the juvenile detention center to be released immediately.

Thursday’s Closing Arguments

The trial was put to the jury around 12:40 p.m. Thursday, after the prosecution and defense presented their closing arguments.

Before Kassabian released the case to the jury, Cary Greenberg, the defense’s attorney, motioned again to strike the case.

“There is nothing that suggests malice,” he said, describing the killing as an act of self-defense by somebody who was “extremely petrified.” “There is no indication that this was an intentional killing. This case should not go to the jury.”

Kassabian disagreed, saying that these were all matters for a jury to decide.

During the prosecution’s closing arguments, commonwealth attorney Camille Turner stated that in order for the jury to come back with a verdict of guilty of second-degree murder, they had to establish that the defendant had killed Wyatt Campbell and done so with malice.

“You may infer malice because there was an unlawful killing,” she said, adding that there was deliberate use of a weapon, and that by the end of the fight, Campbell had suffered 12 stab wounds. “This was a brutal, malicious killing, and we would ask that you find the defendant guilty of murder.”

The defense used the closing arguments to reiterate that the defendant had been protecting himself.

“Nature’s oldest law is self-defense,” Greenberg said, reminding the jury that the defendant and his brother had been in a conflict with three people intending to do bodily harm. “These were people looking to fight and looking to hurt people in ways we can’t even imagine.”

Greenburg also brought up Campbell’s reputation, the inconsistencies in Randy Taylor’s testimony, an unprocessed knife found in the back seat of Tony Perez’s car, and unidentified blood on the defendant’s brother’s car.

And when the fight stopped, Greenberg said, the defendant didn’t pursue Campbell or try to do him more harm. “There’s no indication that [the defendant] ever actively wanted to kill anybody,” he said.

“This is a serious case and a terrible tragedy, but a 15-year-old kid is entitled also to go on and live his life.”

Turner used her rebuttal to point out that the defendant’s side of the story came primarily from his own brother, and questioned whether the sheer number of wounds qualified as “more force than was reasonably necessary to repel the attack” from Campbell.

“If a person who you outweigh by 20, 30, 40 pounds is coming at you in a football crouch, is it necessary to stab them 12 times?” she asked the jury, holding up forensic photos of Campbell’s wounds.

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After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.

The jury was released for deliberations at 12:40 p.m. Thursday but was sent home at 5:30 p.m. with instructions to return at 9 a.m. Friday. They reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.

The defendant had been standing trial for the October 14, 2010 stabbing death of 18-year-old Wyatt Campbell, a Rose Hill resident.

Rose Hill Patch will have the full story shortly.

Whoever oversees these threads, it is know time to put this and the other one away.
Enough pain and heartaches for both families!

The End Wrote:
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> Whoever oversees these threads, it is know time to
> put this and the other one away.
> Enough pain and heartaches for both families!

Hmmmmmm...Let's think about that for a moment....I'm going to say...How about...NO!?!

Well, it is what it is. We'll never really know what happened.

I wonder if the prosecution was competent (it appears the defense was; Cary Greenberg was Cary Weidemann's lawyer in CW's nol pros, if memory serves).

How experienced were the prosecutors?

Anybody hear and care to comment on the closing arguments?

Well Wrote:
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> Well, it is what it is. We'll never really know
> what happened.
>
> I wonder if the prosecution was competent (it
> appears the defense was; Cary Greenberg was Cary
> Weidemann's lawyer in CW's nol pros, if memory
> serves).
>
> How experienced were the prosecutors?
>
> Anybody hear and care to comment on the closing
> arguments?


Of course we know what happened. Sadly justice would have been served if the suspects had been gunned down by the cops.

Patch Article Wrote:
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> But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the
> defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started
> clapping.
>
> Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in
> contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail.
> “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,”
> Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”
>
> While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands,
> David looked at Campbell’s party and said,
> “Who’s laughing now, b----?”
>
> Angered, Kassabian called the statement
> “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional
> time.

What a class act. Why would he be laughing? I'm sure he'll end up in jail himself soon.



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Whiner Wrote:
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> Of course we know what happened.

You may know, but I don't.

Based on the reported testimony, there's a lot that's not clear.

- Why did Wyatt leave his grandmother's house?

- What actually went down at the fight scene?

- People have accused Randy Taylor of lying. What did he lie about? Why was he motivated to lie?

- There was some speculation that Stephen Smith "took the rap" for the killing, because of the likelihood he would receive minimal punishment as a juvenile. Any truth to this theory in your opinion?

- What was Perez's role in the fight?

Well Wrote:
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> Whiner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Of course we know what happened.
>
> You may know, but I don't.
>
> Based on the reported testimony, there's a lot
> that's not clear.
>
> - Why did Wyatt leave his grandmother's house?
>
> - What actually went down at the fight scene?
>
> - People have accused Randy Taylor of lying. What
> did he lie about? Why was he motivated to lie?
>
> - There was some speculation that Stephen Smith
> "took the rap" for the killing, because of the
> likelihood he would receive minimal punishment as
> a juvenile. Any truth to this theory in your
> opinion?
>
> - What was Perez's role in the fight?

It's the same old story...

1). Minorities fighting over shit
2). Drugs
3). Alcohol
4). Poor parenting
5). Knives
6). Guns
7). Death
8). Drama
9). Etc...

I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of "Vigilante Justice" come out of all of this once he's released.

Too many of the Campbell boy's friends and family spoke too much on these threads. They were told many pages back that these threads were being scrutinized.
Hopefully Campbell's friends will change their lifestyles because they have to know that after all of this, they are being watched more so and will for some time to come. Grow up and change your mentality not just for the sake of this neighborhood but for yours. Make your parents proud and stop breaking their hearts and putting them through hell.

For the past 9 months wyatts friends and family has not responded. We will not respond to the smiths now either. David smiths outburst in court and steven smiths murder of wyatt show very clearly the character of that family. The grace and dignity of wyatts family has been absolutely stunning. Instead of attempting to provoke a response from us you should instead protect your families from the newly free murderer and his soon to be released brother. Anyone that can scream in court at a grieving family in the presence of a judge and numerous law enforcement personnel is most definitely someone who will murder again.

What a bunch of shit! Free to go? Where is Gordon? In jail? Hmm...

to whiner ()
Date: July 08, 2011 04:44PM
More lies, give it up. Do you really think your words mean anything anymore?
It does sound as though David is immature if told not to show any reaction and disrespect but that does not mean that the Campbell boy's family and friends are any better. STOP trying to mislead us, it's over so much came out. Think about moving.

Davids outburst shows the violence the smiths are capable of as does their murder of wyatt. Why should wyatts family move? They didnt breed murderers. The smiths did. Besides they both will be behind bars soon enough. They cannot be controlled. They've proven to everyone exactly what they are.

Wow, I am totally shocked by the verdict in this case. I did not know either party, I have been following the case though, the3 behavior of the oldest son in the court room today just shows no remorse on their part, to be if you did not "Intend" to kill someone that you were just trying to defend yourself, you and the people involved would feel bad, not the case. which tells me in my opinion it was clearly Murder 12 times over! My heart goes out to Wyatt Campbell's Family and Friends. I also think David Smith should have received more then 3 days for his charge today, his outburst was totally disgraceful and shameful.

Steven Smith found not guilty in Franconia stabbing death of Wyatt Campbell
By Courtney Robinson
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/07/steven-smith-found-not-guilty-in-franconia-stabbing-death-of-wyatt-campbell-63394.html

The teenager accused in the stabbing death of an 18-year-old man last October in Franconia was found not guilty by a jury in Fairfax County on Friday.

Steven Smith, who was 15 at the time of the stabbing, was acquitted of the murder of 18-year-old Wyatt Campbell, which happened behind the Rose Hill Plaza on Oct. 14.

The family of Wyatt Campbell says Friday’s verdict by a Fairfax County jury does not bring justice.

“We've been dealing with for almost nine months now,” said Sheila Fuller, the victim’s mother.

Police told ABC7 News at the time of the stabbing that Campbell had gotten into a dispute with a group of teens and had smashed out the back windshield of a car shortly before he was stabbed.

Campbell died half an hour later at the hospital.

Smith turned himself in several days after the incident. The Edison High School sophomore was charged with second-degree murder. He was tried as an adult.

Family members said that Campbell and Smith had grown up together.

“It would have been better for everyone involved, the whole community, if this person been kept in jail,” Fuller said after the acquittal.

At Friday's hearing, the older brother of the accused, David Smith, was held in contempt of court after yelling a profanity at the Campbell family. He was sentenced to three days in jail.

Fairfax County officers are maintaining a visible presence at the Campbell and Smith homes as well as the Rose Hill shopping plaza, the scene of the crime.

Campbell's mother Fuller says she's not angry with the jury. “I don't blame anyone. The only person I blame is the person who murdered my child,” she said.

WJLA was only able to get one side of the story since the Smith boy's father would not talk, it's a shame because he could have spoken on behalf of his son. When you kill someone in self-defense, it does not make them a murderer. From what has been posted here, it seems that the Campbell boy was a danger to the whole community too. The Smith boy's brother should have controlled himself because it's a bad reflection on his family. I'm sure all it did was add tension that everyone would like to see go away. Hopefully, time will help both of these families.

I have been following the case though
Heard the trial revealed more than what has been written or televised, so your opinion is understandable even though not totally correct.

the3 behavior of the oldest son in the court room today just shows no remorse on their part
I'm sure there's remorse. Just because the oldest brother was disrespectful does not mean he's speaking for the entire family.

which tells me in my opinion it was clearly Murder 12 times over
Not necessarily the case, do more research.

My heart goes out to Wyatt Campbell's Family and Friends.
Yes to his Mom but not his friends, they help put him where he is today.
Who knows maybe his family didn't help, we'll never know.

I also think David Smith should have received more then 3 days for his charge today, his outburst was totally disgraceful and shameful.
I am sure no one disagrees with you even his own family.

When you speak that way to the family of the boy you murdered it is disrespectful. The smiths have shown no remorse. Not to wyatts family or to any of their other victims. Actually I did attend the trial. Steven smiths prior record was not allowed nor was the jury told he was on probation. The jury also was not told he was even in custody. Had all of the facts been entered regarding the smiths then the outcome may have been very different. You can bet when the smiths murder their next victim then that jury will receive all of the facts.

To give it up. Why would you suggest to Wyatt's family that they move? Are you planning to kill the rest of that family? It sure seems like that. The increased police are at Wyatt's family's request due to the threats made to his family both inside and out of court. Wyatt's family has asked the Smith family repeatedly to leave them alone. Their behavior on October 14 and their behavior today show their intentions towards this grieving family. Rose Hill asks you to stay in Winslow, out of our neighborhood. We prefer not to lose anymore children.

this is why we have a judicial system. you found the smith kid guilty before trial even though you have no idea what really happened. Wyatt was clearly not the good wholesome kid everyone thought he was and it caught up to him. saying the smith kids picked him out of the thousands of kids running around for no reason is naive.

it sounds like the jury made their decision based on the FACTS and the facts are that wyatt was a bad seed too. just because the cops never arrested him for anything doesnt mean he never did anything wrong. not saying he deserved to die but that happens when you run with the wrong crowd and get mixed up in the wrong things.

I am not sure why you are trying to provoke a reaction out of Wyatt's family. Just please stay in Winslow. Far away from our remaining children. We knew Wyatt and his family. The Smith family's reputation precedes them. My child have been bullies by Steven Smith in Edison. He was suspended for 10 days last year for attacking and choking another child in Edison. As stated before, if the jury was able to hear of Steven Smith's prior criminal activities they would have convicted him. It's obvious that either his parents cannot control him or that they cheer him on. Oh well, he will now be a source of pain and horror for some other poor family. The Smith family will kill again and there will be another thread for this forum.

to give it up Wrote:
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> Davids outburst shows the violence the smiths are
> capable of as does their murder of wyatt. Why
> should wyatts family move? They didnt breed
> murderers. The smiths did. Besides they both
> will be behind bars soon enough. They cannot be
> controlled. They've proven to everyone exactly
> what they are.


by clapping? how's that violent? o_0

Whiner Wrote:
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> Well Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whiner Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Of course we know what happened.
> >
> > You may know, but I don't.
> >
> > Based on the reported testimony, there's a lot
> > that's not clear.
> >
> > - Why did Wyatt leave his grandmother's house?
> >
> > - What actually went down at the fight scene?
> >
> > - People have accused Randy Taylor of lying.
> What
> > did he lie about? Why was he motivated to lie?
> >
> > - There was some speculation that Stephen Smith
> > "took the rap" for the killing, because of the
> > likelihood he would receive minimal punishment
> as
> > a juvenile. Any truth to this theory in your
> > opinion?
> >
> > - What was Perez's role in the fight?
>
> It's the same old story...
>
> 1). Minorities fighting over shit
> 2). Drugs
> 3). Alcohol
> 4). Poor parenting
> 5). Knives
> 6). Guns
> 7). Death
> 8). Drama
> 9). Etc...
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of
> "Vigilante Justice" come out of all of this once
> he's released.


you do know these people are white as rice, right?



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@ To Rose Hill Resident - dont bother with the common sense approach - if you dont agree with them, they will just say you are attacking Wyatt's memory and threaten you

lol I didnt think smith would be charged for murder. too many lies going on and no one knows the real story. there wasnt enough proof to convict him of murder..all the kids involved had bad parenting look at what they hung around with. Trouble all the way around. yes there was a life lost but thats what happens when you hang with people that just want trouble he should of keep his butt in the house that night then going out knowing he was gonna fight..

The increased police are at Wyatt's family's request due to the threats made to his family both inside and out of court. Wyatt's family has asked the Smith family repeatedly to leave them alone

Lies! The Smith family has NOT threatened anyone in Wyatt's family in or out of court. Lies! Five (5) of Wyatt's friends were doing that inside court. The Smith family has NOT bothered Wyatt's family so how can they be asked to leave the boy's family alone? More lies. The police increase is because of Wyatt's friends and family members NOT because of the Smith's.
Just like Give It Up said earlier: More lies, give it up. Not much creditability left.

I stood beside Wyatt's mother this morning as she asked the detective for protection. I stood beside her as she was assured of additional police units. And I stood beside her as the smith relatives we're admonished by the bailiff for their antics in the courtroom. I stood beside her as david smith not Wyatt's friends or family was hauled off in handcuffs. Don't believe me? Contact Detective Deane. He will tell you exactly who asked for help from the police.

@Gordon , You couldn't do it could you, just leave this thread alone for at least today. I am not even going to continue to waste my breath on you.


Steven Smith got away with Murder today. Let's pray the next time he commits murder the jury will have more common sense. I know as a parent It scares me to think we have a murderer in the area.

Some of you say how do you know his family has no remorse, News 7 said they gave them a chance for a interview and they were told by the Father to Leave. So yeah not feelin it as far as the whole " We are sorry this happened to your son remorse"

David Smith's reaction clapping and then yelling at Wyatt's family "Who's Laughing
Now, Bitches". Yeah They didn't mean to Kill him, RIGHT!!!!

Wyatt Campbell and his family got no justice today.

All of you who the past 9 months and even recently in this thread who seem to think Wyatt causes his own death, etc

Steven is Free, He will kill again, when it's your kid, are you going to still feel the same then?? Just Askin

OMG! Wrote:
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> The increased police are at Wyatt's family's
> request due to the threats made to his family both
> inside and out of court. Wyatt's family has asked
> the Smith family repeatedly to leave them alone
>
> Lies! The Smith family has NOT threatened anyone
> in Wyatt's family in or out of court. Lies! Five
> (5) of Wyatt's friends were doing that inside
> court. The Smith family has NOT bothered Wyatt's
> family so how can they be asked to leave the boy's
> family alone? More lies. The police increase is
> because of Wyatt's friends and family members NOT
> because of the Smith's.
> Just like Give It Up said earlier: More lies, give
> it up. Not much creditability left.

Like OMG!!!....It was not Wyatt's Friends or Family that did anything today it was David Smith ( your son, friend, brother, because not sure who you are ) that stood up and clapped , it was he who after the judge ordered him to a day in jail turned to The Campbell Family and said " Who's Laughing now, B******"... So Stop Spreading your Lies, Like OMG Ok!!!!

Sad tonight Wrote:
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> David Smith's reaction clapping and then yelling
> at Wyatt's family "Who's Laughing
> Now, Bitches".

probably what anyone would say after hearing those ppl talk about how they hoped his brother would sent to jail so he could get raped.

everyone involved are a bunch punk losers. Trash taking out trash. good riddance.

@Sad tonight - yet you seem to be wasting yr breath on me anyways LoLz

If you dont like how America or the justice system works, move to North Korea, k?

bottom line is, if EITHER of those guys had decided "no, I'm not going to go to Rose Hill Shopping Center, a place I dont own, to fight with weapons", then none of this would be happening, Wyatt would still be alive, and you wouldnt have to think about me talking on this thread.

Wyatt Campbell wasnt thinking about his family that night he LEFT HIS HOUSE WITH A WEAPON to go to someone else's property to fight - if he cared about his fmaily, he should have kept his ass at home that night.

p.s. My kids wont be robbing any of the Smiths or ny kid for that matter (they know I'll kick their ass myself for doing crap like that) so they dont have to worry about getting killed by them.

to omg
I stood beside Wyatt's mother this morning as she asked the detective for protection. I stood beside her as she was assured of additional police units.
Not because her and her family were threatened by the Smith family. The requests that were made during this week at the courtroom were unnecessary since no one threatened her, family members; and friends. Ms. Fuller had no reason because no one from the Smith family had done anything verbally or physically, NO threats.
Not even a look.

And I stood beside her as the smith relatives we're admonished by the bailiff for their antics in the courtroom. I stood beside her as david smith not Wyatt's friends or family was hauled off in handcuffs.
Lie, the only one that verbally and physically reacted was David, not the rest of the family.

Don't believe me? Contact Detective Deane. He will tell you exactly who asked for help from the police.
Don't need too because that was not the point of my response, the response was based on the following lies:
The increased police are at Wyatt's family's request due to the threats made to his family both inside and out of court.
The Smith family has NOT threatened anyone
> in Wyatt's family in or out of court. Lies! Five
> (5) of Wyatt's friends were doing that inside > court.

Wyatt's family has asked the Smith family repeatedly to leave them alone.
The Smith family has NOT bothered Wyatt's > family so how can they be asked to leave the boy's > family alone? More lies.

Their behavior on October 14 and their behavior today show their intentions towards this grieving family.
There is NO intentions from the Smith family towards anyone.

The police increase is because of Wyatt's friends and family members NOT
because of the Smith's. And this is true along with Ms. Fuller's request which there was no basis for it, even David was not threatening.

What makes you think that the Smith family hasn't requested police coverage also especially due to the 5 individuals actions at court? It goes both ways. All that is being shown is that the threats are not coming from the Smith family and never will. As previously stated under another post, not much creditability left, it's gone.

As previously stated under another post, not much creditability left, it's gone.
Correction-
As previously stated by a poster, etc..

These threads are not good for either family, they need to be put to bed.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> by clapping? how's that violent? o_0

I'd say that yelling "Who's laughing now, bitch?" at the victim's mother shows a definite violent streak, if not downright sadistic.

Not important Wrote:
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> Sad tonight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > David Smith's reaction clapping and then
> yelling
> > at Wyatt's family "Who's Laughing
> > Now, Bitches".
>
> probably what anyone would say after hearing those
> ppl talk about how they hoped his brother would
> sent to jail so he could get raped.
>
> everyone involved are a bunch punk losers. Trash
> taking out trash. good riddance.

Steven, Do Mommy and Daddy know that you are already on here starting s***. How long you been out a few hours?

Does anyone know if Steven Smith still faces a delinquency hearing in JDC or does that go away now that he's been acquitted of the adult charges?

Steven, Do Mommy and Daddy know that you are already on here starting s***. How long you been out a few hours?
Dumber than rocks for thinking much less writing something like this. Education level?

Does anyone know if Steven Smith still faces a delinquency hearing in JDC or does that go away now that he's been acquitted of the adult charges?
Good question, don't know.

Pointless.

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Mephisto,


The problem that everyone had with you was not because of the questions you asked, the issue was when you or even Gordon Blvd did not get the answer's you wanted, you were not always exactly nice toward the posters that answered your questions. You seem like a some what educated person so I would think that you would understand that when you lose someone you love especially in that way, people's emotions\'s run high. They are going to be defensive of the person they lost. They are going to get angry when you call them names like ... " Stupid, idiot, dumbass etc".

In answer to your question of did anyone tell or talk to the police or commonwealth atttorney about the safe and witnesses that heard things the smiths said. and yes about the Safe as well. You can only do so much and hope that info you gave them helps. BTW as far as the safe it was brought up in court, but the Judge ordered that certain things were not to be discussed. As far as Randy you read " The Patch" they reported that Randy gave different stories from the beginning, Personally I think the case was handled wrong from the beginning, but i guess it doesn't matter now.

Also None of Steven Smith's records could not be used because tech he is a Minor. But from what I have read and heard he has a history of Violet Behavior as well as one of the charges on his probation he is on now was " Assault with a deadly weapon". Let's not forgot his Brother's Rude and Horrible Behavior in the court room.

" Who's laughing now,Bitches"....and of course Standing up Clapping. Yeah that is behavior of someone who helped murder someone in "SELF DEFENSE"...

No matter your feelings about Wyatt as a person as far as whether he dealt drugs or not, robbed people or not ( though Steven's own witness testified that Wyatt NEVER touced anyone that night, the other witness who said he did was lying because in his earlier statement to police he confirmed that Wyatt did not rob oe touch them the other kids did ) He did not deserve to die. yes I know he grabbed a golf club, if my friend called me and said Well I dont know what was said but for the sake of argument that he as told they had a gun, i would grab something too to protect myself. See that is what i take issue with..... David Smith said he told his brother let's go get the BB Gun { which looked real ) and Rob Wyatt of your I Pod. which to would mean if Wyatt thought the Gun was real, then he was Defending his Life !!!! Not the other way around.

just like you these are my opinions, whether you agree or not doesn't make it wrong. I feel for The Family of Wyatt Campbell. As a mother I can not even imagine the pain she is going though it ( his Mom ), Especially after yesterday.

This thread will never die because of one person who goes out of there way to intagizine( I know spelled it wrong ) everyone. GORDON BLVD.


Everyone is Rosehill Keep a good eye on your kids because a murderer was set free.

@Ut - sadistic yes, violent - not really. Saying something mean and nasty isnt violent. But I'd agree it does show a certain "mentality", that's for sure.

@ @Mehpsito - you know, if you keep mentioning me BY NAME, I'm going to answer back - and show me one post I've made where I "goes out of there way to intagizine (sic)"?

edit

p.s. To call me out - that's not going to help you in the least...........you say I wasnt nice to posters - well I've never threatened anybody or wished they were dead. I'm sorry they dont like my thoughts on the subject but it's a public forum. And nobody has made them come here to read my crap, yet they act like this is their home and I'm invading it - bottom line - if you want the thread to die, quit posting yrself and maybe it will, plain and simple.



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another thing - NOBODY has EVER called Wyatt "Stupid, idiot, dumbass" - I 've said this so many times I'm starting to wonder if y'all can read. IT IS NOT THE MAN I AM ATTACKING - IT IS HIS STUPID CHOICES THAT HE MADE THAT LEAD TO HIS DEATH THAT I AM ATTACKING!

NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT LEAVE THEIR HOUSES WITH WEAPONS TO FIGHT CHILDREN BEHIND SHOPPING CENTERS - THIS IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR!!

and you can be mad at me all you want, which is kinda wierd since you prolly should be mad at the person what stabbed yr friend, yet you'd rather waste time and energy being mad at some stranger on the interweb..........but whatevers.

Either way, I will say that I'm glad the children of Rose Hill have not gone into retaliatory mode - the friends of Wyatt HAVE shut me the fk up on that tip - and I hope they CONTINUE to do so

You keep stating that Wyatt went to fight a child. Not true. He was assaulted by David Smith in front of the 7'11 with David, by his own testimony, striking Wyatt in the head while pinning him in his car. When Wyatt left his house he struck David Smith' s car, not Steven. David landed the first blow to a boy that he outweighed by 70 pounds while standing over him and not allowing any escape route. The Smiths actually turned around to attack Wyatt. That testimony is from an independent witness. The Smiths then went to their home in Winslow with plenty of time to change their minds about murdering this kid. They returned to Rose Hill with weapons. Per David Smith's own testimony they then broke into Randy Taylor's vehicle, once again making them the aggressors. After the vehicle breakin, Randy attempted to defend himself and his vehicle. Once he realized that his attackers had a gun he called Wyatt for help. Not once did Randy Taylor or Wyatt Campbell become the aggressors. They were always the victims.

What gang are these people associated with? Folk, or Gangster Disciples?

@to gordon - I thought y'all wanted this thread to die out?

Ok, to answer you - At the time Randy called Wyatt for help, he was at home. He left his home with a weapon to "help his buddy out" as you see it.

That right there, to me, is a very stupid choice to make. At that point, you should call the cops and say "wow, my friend is in some SERIOUS TROUBLE!", not go off half-cocked and run out to confront children who you just earlier in the day got into it with.

By choosing to grab a weapon and leave the safety of yr house, for whatever reason, you are putting yourself, and others, in harms way. That's kinda the job of the cops. Public safety, law and order, etc. That's why they train in this sorta stuff.

It was stupid of Randy to try and defend his vehicle instead of calling the cops. It was stupid of Wyatt to leave his house to help out his friend with only a golf club, and it was stupid for ANY of this bullshit to happen at all.

Again, not attacking the man, but attacking the CHOICES that were made that night.............cause any different choice made by any of these guys would mean Wyatt would still be alive - and believe it or not, I'd rather that be the case.

Question 1: "When Wyatt left his house he struck David Smith' s car, not Steven" is what you say. Isn't that sorta aggressive? TO strike someone's car?

Question 2: Why was all this aggression going on anyways? Seems kinda odd to target Wyatt if he hadnt done anything to upset these boys........

@gang - I dont think it's a gang thing - it's more like wannabes, y'know?

Gordon Blvd,
Don't even bother replying to the continued twisted words, twisted events; and portrayal of a 18-year old that was nonviolent, not a drug dealer, didn't show up wanting to maintain his violent reputation by teaching David a lesson (as stated in the articles); and most importantly, did not attack the 15-year old, Gordon the boy was innocent! At this point I honesty don't think any insane person will take the words of the 18 year old friends and family.


Everyone is Rosehill Keep a good eye on your kids because a murderer was set free.
Oh! WE are watching but not the 15-year old.

You are so right. The one to watch out for is the 24 year old. David Smith.

'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Defense attorney says witness will lie to cover up drug dealing.
By Will Sommer | Email the author | July 5, 2011
http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/if-they-called-the-cops-im-screwed-fight-participant-testifies-in-rose-hill-murder-trial

Correction: This article originally stated that Wyatt Campbell said, "If they called the cops, I'm screwed." Randy Taylor actually said that at trial, and the article has been corrected to reflect that. Kingstowne Patch regrets the error.

The trial of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder continued Tuesday afternoon, with testimony from one of only four people believed to have witnessed the fight that allegedly resulted in the death of Wyatt Campbell.

It is Patch policy not to name minors accused of crimes.

Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.

Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.

Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor.

These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.

On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.

According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.

As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.

"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.

Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.

"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.

With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.

"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."

Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.

"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.

Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.

"An example needs to be set," he testified.

Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.

Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.

Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.

"If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Taylor said at trial, then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.

Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.

"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.

Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.

"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."

Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.

As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.

"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.

After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.

The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.

Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.

Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.

"It's a mystery to me, too," he said.

Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.

"I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."

Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.

Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.

Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.

Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.

FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.

Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

The trial is set to resume Wednesday at 9 a.m.

'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Correction: This article originally stated that Wyatt Campbell said, "If they called the cops, I'm screwed." Randy Taylor actually said that at trial, and the article has been corrected to reflect that. Kingstowne Patch regrets the error.
Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.
Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.
Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor. Tony Perez-
These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.
On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.
According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.
As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.
"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.
Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.
"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.
With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.
"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."
Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.
"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.
Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.
"An example needs to be set," he testified.
Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.
Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.
Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.
If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Taylor said at trial, then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.
Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.
"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.
Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.
"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."
Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.
As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.
"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.
After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.
The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.
Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.
Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.
It's a mystery to me, too," he said.
Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.
I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."
Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.
Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.
Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.
Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.
FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.
Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in Murder Trial
It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories, and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested its argument and the defense began calling witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder.
Tony Perez:
The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on felony probation on the night of Campbell's death, asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.
According to the defense's theory of the fight, Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the defendant and his older brother. The prosecution holds that Perez was not involved.
"You know you're under oath right now?" defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after he denied involvement in the fight.

Medical Examiner:
According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which would be fatal. Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent with a fight.

Motion to Strike:
Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in the most positive light showed no malice on the defendant's part.
"All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell, according to the defense, he would have pursued him.
Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing the use of a weapon and the length of the stab wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.

Campbell's Reputation:
The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.
One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.
"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.
The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.
When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

Campbell's Family:
The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's nearby apartment before heading to the fight behind the convenience store.
Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for between 15 and 20 minutes.
Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.
During cross-examination, defense attorney Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered telling a Fairfax County Police Department detective that Campbell had only stayed in the apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20 minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said that she remembered giving the earlier statement.
"He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He was angry when he left."

After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell, Campbell's 20-year-old brother.
Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.
William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.
Campbell's cell phone showed his safe which had between 1/2lb - 1/lb and cash, $10K.

The Defendant's Brother:
David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he picked up his younger brother and took him to the 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but realized he didn't have any money.
As he left the store, David said, his brother pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David pushed his head.
David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.
After the brothers went to the alley, though, the plan fell apart, according to David's testimony. Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none of them were scared by the broken toy gun.
"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.
Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.
The brothers left, too, returning to their house. The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.
David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.
In cross-examination, David admitted telling police about the toy gun late in interviews, and initially saying his younger brother never got out of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial that his brother didn't have a knife at the fight.
"He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.
Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner closed the cross-examination with a series of rapid questions:
Turner: Little brother?
David: Yes.
Turner: Love him?
David: Yes.
Turner: Want to protect him?
David: Yes.
Turner: To this day.

Defendant in Wyatt Campbell Murder Trial Found Not Guilty
After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
Deliberations started Thursday afternoon and continued Friday morning. The jury reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.
Defendant’s Brother Held for Contempt:
Before the verdict was read, Judge Brett A. Kassabian demanded order in the courtroom, telling both parties that any outbursts or disruptions upon hearing the verdict would be dealt with “severely.”
But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started clapping.
Once the defendant had been escorted out of the courtroom, Kassabian gave David a chance to explain himself. David said he was happy for his brother, and that his brother hadn’t deserved to be there.
Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail. “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,” Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”
While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands, David looked at Campbell’s party and said, “Who’s laughing now, b----?”
Angered, Kassabian called the statement “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional time.
The defendant was sent back to the juvenile detention center to be released immediately.

Thursday’s Closing Arguments:
The trial was put to the jury around 12:40 p.m. Thursday, after the prosecution and defense presented their closing arguments.
Before Kassabian released the case to the jury, Cary Greenberg, the defense’s attorney, motioned again to strike the case.
“There is nothing that suggests malice,” he said, describing the killing as an act of self-defense by somebody who was “extremely petrified.” “There is no indication that this was an intentional killing. This case should not go to the jury.”
Kassabian disagreed, saying that these were all matters for a jury to decide.
During the prosecution’s closing arguments, commonwealth attorney Camille Turner stated that in order for the jury to come back with a verdict of guilty of second-degree murder, they had to establish that the defendant had killed Wyatt Campbell and done so with malice.
“You may infer malice because there was an unlawful killing,” she said, adding that there was deliberate use of a weapon, and that by the end of the fight, Campbell had suffered 12 stab wounds. “This was a brutal, malicious killing, and we would ask that you find the defendant guilty of murder.”
The defense used the closing arguments to reiterate that the defendant had been protecting himself.
“Nature’s oldest law is self-defense,” Greenberg said, reminding the jury that the defendant and his brother had been in a conflict with three people intending to do bodily harm. “These were people looking to fight and looking to hurt people in ways we can’t even imagine.”
Greenburg also brought up Campbell’s reputation, the inconsistencies in Randy Taylor’s testimony, an unprocessed knife found in the back seat of Tony Perez’s car, and unidentified blood on the defendant’s brother’s car.
And when the fight stopped, Greenberg said, the defendant didn’t pursue Campbell or try to do him more harm. “There’s no indication that [the defendant] ever actively wanted to kill anybody,” he said.
“This is a serious case and a terrible tragedy, but a 15-year-old kid is entitled also to go on and live his life.”
Turner used her rebuttal to point out that the defendant’s side of the story came primarily from his own brother, and questioned whether the sheer number of wounds qualified as “more force than was reasonably necessary to repel the attack” from Campbell.
“If a person who you outweigh by 20, 30, 40 pounds is coming at you in a football crouch, is it necessary to stab them 12 times?” she asked the jury, holding up forensic photos of Campbell’s wounds.

After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
The jury was released for deliberations at 12:40 p.m. Thursday but was sent home at 5:30 p.m. with instructions to return at 9 a.m. Friday. They reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.


Case close.

Hope ya'll can find something better to do then go after a 15yr old.....sounds like his family needs the protection.

not once have wyatt's friends or family threatened the smiths...on the contrary, they have murdered wyatt...seems like that family is more of a threat to everyone....keep in mind he will be back in that area and back in the school with their children

"It was stupid of Wyatt to leave his house to help out his friend with only a golf club" quote by GORDON BLVD


yeah you never ever called him stupid.............

to occoquan Wrote:
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> not once have wyatt's friends or family threatened
> the smiths...on the contrary, they have murdered
> wyatt...seems like that family is more of a threat
> to everyone....keep in mind he will be back in
> that area and back in the school with their
> children

There were people on here who publicly stated that they hoped this 15 year-old kid would spend the next couple decades of his life getting raped in prison. I can't even imagine what was said in private.

I don't think it's unreasonable for both families involved to request additional police protection, but FCPD won't commit those resources forever. I doubt this is the last we'll hear on this matter.

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@memory - again, not calling the dude stupid, but his CHOICES that HE made that night - quote said it was STUPID of him to leave his house, not that HE was stupid for for leaving the house

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@to occoquan - no, yr kinda wrong cause it's happened at least twice on this thread alone................

Re: Stabbing in Rose Hill
Posted by: RiP LiL MAN ()
Date: October 25, 2010 01:26PM

to all of you on here talking shyt trust and believe we will find out who u are and hahaha u'll b next.. the smiths are gonna DIE!!! either in jail or on the streets and i hope i get to watch it b done... KC shes gonna get it 2!!!! i kno where u live BITCH!!! to wyatts mom im sooo sorry for your loss.. wyatt was a great kid he made me smile whenever i saw him i considered him my lil bro.. r.i.p lil man i love you!!!!!!

Posted by: WhatAlOsS ()
Date: October 26, 2010 12:52PM

Wyatt was a good, loving kid, and i miss him dearly, and so does his family and friends, Da smiths deserve to die no matter what and they should NEVER see daylight again. Wyatt we all miss you and its terrible what they did to you. All da haters on here get a life and grow da fuck up and stop harrassin his family and friends, and stop talkin like ya'll are gods perfect angels because YA'LL AREN'T!!!!! Ya'll do dumb thingz in life,and dont act like u dunt. stupid ppl!
Wyatt rest in peace! I love you lil man!!! Your in my heart and prayers forever and so his is family!! xoxo wyatt!!!!

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those posts are 9 months old and were made within 2 weeks of this kid's murder, the threats the other family made in court are much more recent and therefore much more worthy of police protection for the Campbell family

@Mr Mephisto - I hope yr wrong and it is the last we hear of it.............dont need any stupid feuding and bs retaliation in Fairfax County, y'know?

Let's hope the kids of Rose Hill will prove us wrong about them..........

to occoquan
GIVE IT A F***'N REST!!!
Everyone is getting damn tired of the comments especially when there's a full trial account before your post. How damn dumb are you and the others? Dear God stop making Rose Hill appear that all that exists is stupid illiterate lying dumb asses, WE are sick of it! Just watch out for yourselves and do us residence a f***'n favor and shut up!

@Occoquan Rd - it's a sad day when adults are gunning for 15 yr old kids, isnt it?

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to gordo
READ the post from Recap and STOP letting the surrounding areas know what dumb asses are living in Rose Hill, MY community!

I'll promise I'll at least try, Give it :)

if all the energy that went into all this was focused on the silos, y'all would have them saved lock stock and barrel by now

@memory - again, not calling the dude stupid, but his CHOICES that HE made that night - quote said it was STUPID of him to leave his house, not that HE was stupid for for leaving the house-- postedby GORDON



Gimme a Effin break! You are comparing Apples and Orqnges, We all know what you thought of Wyatt, so Stop insulting us with " I don't dislike wyatt, just his choices " Comments. You are so quick to preach to ther choir, follow your ob advice, Man Up and admitt your TRUE FEELINGS about Wyatt.

As far as the Trial I think a great In Justice was done. Murder is Murder no what who the victim is. after the intital stab in the Lung wyatt said I have been hit. The Medical Examinar said that it would cause slowed breathing, I doubt he was in any effin shape to fight, so 11 more stabs that was to make sure the job was done...... Everyone says Wyatt had the Rep of " You dont mess with me" ..... Sounds more like The Smith Brothers were the ones to make that statement, I have a feeling this is not over for David and Steven Smith

@just a - you do know that Apples and Oranges are different, right? Like a person and his choices can be diff...............oh, why bother.

and yeah, great injustice. The jury was in a conspiracy against him, you see..............

Gordon Blvd
I don't think the comment was directed to you, sounds as though it's directed to the Campbell boy's choir.

just a observer
A drunk'n stone head that can't read at 2:27AM or probably straight.

Clarification-Was responding to Post Name: to occoquan
Now Including: just a observer
GIVE IT A F***'N REST!!!
Everyone is getting damn tired of the comments especially when there's a full trial account before your post. How damn dumb are you and the others? Dear God stop making Rose Hill appear that all that exists is stupid illiterate lying dumb asses, WE are sick of it! Just watch out for yourselves and do us residence a f***'n favor and shut up!

A fight involving at least 5 people took place in Rose Hill back in October. 18 year old Wyatt Campbell was stabbed at least 12 times and died at the hospital. 15 year old Steven Smith, whom stabbed Wyatt was jailed for half a year. Without the murder weapon or a credible witness, the prosecution was unable to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of his guilt.
Steven Smith, already in trouble for an armed assault and other charges, will now have to face a Juvy Court without the benifit of a jury.
Steven's brother, and two others involved may now also soon face charges.

It's been a long ten months for all involved.

It's time to let this thread end.
Please don't feed the trolls anymore.

Bystander-You can't read either?
Smith had been arrested on two felony grand larceny charges, for stealing video games. Greenberg said that the felony larcenies were reduced to misdemeanors, and Smith was placed on probation.
GIVE IT A F***'N REST!!!
Everyone is getting damn tired of the comments especially when there's a full trial account before your post. How damn dumb are you and the others? Dear God stop making Rose Hill appear that all that exists is stupid illiterate lying dumb asses, WE are sick of it!

Give it a F***'N Rest Wrote:
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> Bystander-You can't read either?
> Smith had been arrested on two felony grand
> larceny charges, for stealing video games.
> Greenberg said that the felony larcenies were
> reduced to misdemeanors, and Smith was placed on
> probation.
> GIVE IT A F***'N REST!!!
> Everyone is getting damn tired of the comments
> especially when there's a full trial account
> before your post. How damn dumb are you and the
> others? Dear God stop making Rose Hill appear that
> all that exists is stupid illiterate lying dumb
> asses, WE are sick of it


I suggest if you don't like what is said on this forum room, get the hell out, No we are not going to give it a REST, No justice was found for Wyatt and Family or Rose Hill. I live there as well. We are a community that is suppose to stick together in a time like this. How dare you talk to "BYSTANDER" like that, he has been a supporter of Wyatt's since day 1.....WE are sick of people like you so GTFO and STFU

WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU in our community!!! Lies, drugs; and parties of unintelligent people.

We are a community that is suppose to stick together in a time like this.
The descent law abiding productive residences ARE! WE just support the lifestyles of others in OUR community!

You know what came out of all this...In Fairfax you can stab someone 12 times call it self defense and walk away a free person.
Good to know for future reference.

Posted by: Recap ()
Date: July 09, 2011 02:41PM

'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Correction: This article originally stated that Wyatt Campbell said, "If they called the cops, I'm screwed." Randy Taylor actually said that at trial, and the article has been corrected to reflect that. Kingstowne Patch regrets the error.
Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.
Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.
Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor. Tony Perez-
These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.
On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.
According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.
As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.
"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.
Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.
"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.
With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.
"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."
Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.
"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.
Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.
"An example needs to be set," he testified.
Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.
Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.
Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.
If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Taylor said at trial, then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.
Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.
"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.
Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.
"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."
Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.
As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.
"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.
After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.
The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.
Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.
Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.
It's a mystery to me, too," he said.
Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.
I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."
Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.
Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.
Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.
Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.
FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.
Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in Murder Trial
It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories, and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested its argument and the defense began calling witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder.
Tony Perez:
The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on felony probation on the night of Campbell's death, asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.
According to the defense's theory of the fight, Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the defendant and his older brother. The prosecution holds that Perez was not involved.
"You know you're under oath right now?" defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after he denied involvement in the fight.

Medical Examiner:
According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which would be fatal. Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent with a fight.

Motion to Strike:
Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in the most positive light showed no malice on the defendant's part.
"All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell, according to the defense, he would have pursued him.
Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing the use of a weapon and the length of the stab wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.

Campbell's Reputation:
The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.
One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.
"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.
The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.
When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

Campbell's Family:
The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's nearby apartment before heading to the fight behind the convenience store.
Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for between 15 and 20 minutes.
Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.
During cross-examination, defense attorney Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered telling a Fairfax County Police Department detective that Campbell had only stayed in the apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20 minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said that she remembered giving the earlier statement.
"He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He was angry when he left."

After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell, Campbell's 20-year-old brother.
Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.
William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.
Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.
Campbell's cell phone showed his safe which had between 1/2lb - 1/lb and cash, $10K.

The Defendant's Brother:
David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he picked up his younger brother and took him to the 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but realized he didn't have any money.
As he left the store, David said, his brother pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David pushed his head.
David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.
After the brothers went to the alley, though, the plan fell apart, according to David's testimony. Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none of them were scared by the broken toy gun.
"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.
Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.
The brothers left, too, returning to their house. The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.
David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.
In cross-examination, David admitted telling police about the toy gun late in interviews, and initially saying his younger brother never got out of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial that his brother didn't have a knife at the fight.
"He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.
Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner closed the cross-examination with a series of rapid questions:
Turner: Little brother?
David: Yes.
Turner: Love him?
David: Yes.
Turner: Want to protect him?
David: Yes.
Turner: To this day.

Defendant in Wyatt Campbell Murder Trial Found Not Guilty
After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
Deliberations started Thursday afternoon and continued Friday morning. The jury reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.
Defendant’s Brother Held for Contempt:
Before the verdict was read, Judge Brett A. Kassabian demanded order in the courtroom, telling both parties that any outbursts or disruptions upon hearing the verdict would be dealt with “severely.”
But upon hearing the not guilty verdict, the defendant’s brother, David, stood up and started clapping.
Once the defendant had been escorted out of the courtroom, Kassabian gave David a chance to explain himself. David said he was happy for his brother, and that his brother hadn’t deserved to be there.
Kassabian was not satisfied, and, placing him in contempt of court, sentenced him to a day in jail. “This is not the Jerry Springer Show,” Kassabian said. “This is a courtroom.”
While the bailiff was cuffing David’s hands, David looked at Campbell’s party and said, “Who’s laughing now, b----?”
Angered, Kassabian called the statement “outrageous” and sentenced him to additional time.
The defendant was sent back to the juvenile detention center to be released immediately.

Thursday’s Closing Arguments:
The trial was put to the jury around 12:40 p.m. Thursday, after the prosecution and defense presented their closing arguments.
Before Kassabian released the case to the jury, Cary Greenberg, the defense’s attorney, motioned again to strike the case.
“There is nothing that suggests malice,” he said, describing the killing as an act of self-defense by somebody who was “extremely petrified.” “There is no indication that this was an intentional killing. This case should not go to the jury.”
Kassabian disagreed, saying that these were all matters for a jury to decide.
During the prosecution’s closing arguments, commonwealth attorney Camille Turner stated that in order for the jury to come back with a verdict of guilty of second-degree murder, they had to establish that the defendant had killed Wyatt Campbell and done so with malice.
“You may infer malice because there was an unlawful killing,” she said, adding that there was deliberate use of a weapon, and that by the end of the fight, Campbell had suffered 12 stab wounds. “This was a brutal, malicious killing, and we would ask that you find the defendant guilty of murder.”
The defense used the closing arguments to reiterate that the defendant had been protecting himself.
“Nature’s oldest law is self-defense,” Greenberg said, reminding the jury that the defendant and his brother had been in a conflict with three people intending to do bodily harm. “These were people looking to fight and looking to hurt people in ways we can’t even imagine.”
Greenburg also brought up Campbell’s reputation, the inconsistencies in Randy Taylor’s testimony, an unprocessed knife found in the back seat of Tony Perez’s car, and unidentified blood on the defendant’s brother’s car.
And when the fight stopped, Greenberg said, the defendant didn’t pursue Campbell or try to do him more harm. “There’s no indication that [the defendant] ever actively wanted to kill anybody,” he said.
“This is a serious case and a terrible tragedy, but a 15-year-old kid is entitled also to go on and live his life.”
Turner used her rebuttal to point out that the defendant’s side of the story came primarily from his own brother, and questioned whether the sheer number of wounds qualified as “more force than was reasonably necessary to repel the attack” from Campbell.
“If a person who you outweigh by 20, 30, 40 pounds is coming at you in a football crouch, is it necessary to stab them 12 times?” she asked the jury, holding up forensic photos of Campbell’s wounds.

After about six hours of deliberations, a jury found the 15-year-old defendant charged with the murder of Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell not guilty Friday morning.
The jury was released for deliberations at 12:40 p.m. Thursday but was sent home at 5:30 p.m. with instructions to return at 9 a.m. Friday. They reached a verdict around 10:20 a.m.

Case close.

Nova resident shut up before showing your biased stupidity. It may well have been self defense. I am sure you have heard of the times when cops have had to shoot an assailant on drugs more than one or two times.

AryanPride Wrote:
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> You know what came out of all this...In Fairfax
> you can stab someone 12 times call it self defense
> and walk away a free person.
> Good to know for future reference.

Actually, the take away here is if you get into a fight where both parties have weapons and you win the fight by killing the other guy, you won't be convicted of murder 2.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

Just curious, what weapon do you propose that this victim had? The golf club was used to damage a car, not to harm anyone

Just curious, what weapon do you propose that this victim had?
1. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.
Known as a switch-blade.
2. David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.
Known as a switch-blade.

The golf club was used to damage a car, not to harm anyone
1. David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs.
This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.

FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.
Guess the Campbell boy wasn't going to hurt the person with a baseball bat.

Do YOU seriously think people on here are going to buy into your bulls*it if you and others repeatedly say the same lies over and over and over? Continued defamation of character, assumptions; and accusations are not convincing.
At the trial, did any of you see people in dress suits? LMAO---

Give it a F***'N Rest Wrote:
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> WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU
> in our community!!! Lies, drugs; and parties of
> unintelligent people.
>
> We are a community that is suppose to stick
> together in a time like this.
> The descent law abiding productive residences ARE!
> WE just support the lifestyles of others in OUR
> community!


You do not even know me, I do not lie, nor do I do Drugs!!... I went all 4 yrs to College, So sorry to disappoint you but I am not a ignorant person.

I have a god given right to have a opinion on this forum. I am sorry if you do not agree with it, But that does not make us ( the ones in support of Wyatt ) Druggies, or Stupid people.

There was NO justice for him or his Family. Whether you agree with him as a person or not, That 15 yr old had NO RIGHT to take his life. Can you honestly say stabbing someone over and over 12 times, is not Murder? I am a law abiding citizen which is why i do not agree with this verdict.

We just sent a message to Teenagers that Hey if you get in a fight, It's ok just Murder the person you are fighting, cause you will get off.

Worst of all we have a Murder living back near our community, yeah I feel Safe, and my kids I don't know if I want them to go out now.

You do not even know me, I do not lie, nor do I do Drugs!!... I went all 4 yrs to College, So sorry to disappoint you but I am not a ignorant person.
Don't think the comment was actually directed towards you as an individual.

That 15 yr old had NO RIGHT to take his life. Can you honestly say stabbing someone over and over 12 times, is not Murder?
Does when it's self-defense which it sounds based on Recap's posting.
9 wounds were superficial and the young kid even got cut, black eye, etc..
Doesn't sound like murder, if he wanted to kill the older kid, he would have. You don't let someone go that can point you out.

We just sent a message to Teenagers that Hey if you get in a fight, It's ok just Murder the person you are fighting, cause you will get off.
Not true. The message to the kids should be this is what the end result can be when you bring a golf club and switch-blade.

Worst of all we have a Murder living back near our community, yeah I feel Safe, and my kids I don't know if I want them to go out now.
Person that defends themselves are not a murderer. I guess though you don't mind your kids being around the victim's brother and friends or the fact that they are in your neighborhood, even worse they live next door. I won't let them out!

Think about this~ Did it ever occur to you that since there was no evidence, no witness, no knife with the boy's DNA, that he might not have been the one that made all those wounds? Did you once give Perez a thought? Have you actually read Recap's posting, many questions with the Perez guy. He was alone with the victim, knife in his jeep, could have cleaned it off before arrival to the hospital. When you have drugs and a lot of cash, a drug dealer does not have honest friends! Think about it~

LMAO Wrote:
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> Just curious, what weapon do you propose that this
> victim had?
> 1. An officer at the hospital found a
> spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal
> effects.
> Known as a switch-blade.
> 2. David said Campbell then tried to get out of
> the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that
> was later found amongst his personal effects in
> the hospital.
> Known as a switch-blade.
>
> The golf club was used to damage a car, not to
> harm anyone
> 1. David said his brother also received a black
> eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters
> thick, across his ribs.
> This would seem to be consistent with a mark from
> a golf club an officer who photographed the
> defendant's wounds soon after the fight.
>
> FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault said that William
> Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had
> told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and
> explained how he chased at least one person down
> the street with a baseball bat as a result.
> Guess the Campbell boy wasn't going to hurt the
> person with a baseball bat.
>
> Do YOU seriously think people on here are going to
> buy into your bulls*it if you and others
> repeatedly say the same lies over and over and
> over? Continued defamation of character,
> assumptions; and accusations are not convincing.
> At the trial, did any of you see people in dress
> suits? LMAO---

switch blade could have been planted on wyatt by the Smiths. So what about the drug deal gone bad, it has nothing to do with this issue at and. I suppose we could bring up Steven Smith's Violet Behavior as well and his Brother's, one of which is MURDER,.....Why does it matter if any one was wearing a dress suit??? Since you say you were there I amuse you are a Smith or a friend of their's.

Which leads me to this, you have your version of what went down. And We have the truth.

Which is this the facts. 1) David got out of his car and went over to Wyatt and yelled at him, when Wyatt said " No, I did not". David did not stop He went and punched Wyatt in the head!!!! 2) Steven admitted to the police per the search warrant that they had been targeting Wyatt for awhile. 3) night of the 14th of October, After he punched Wyatt. He said to his little brother " Let's go get the Toy Gun" and ROB Wyatt and get your IPod back. 4) They went and game back they didnt have to, so ok What is someone suppose to if someone is back and has a gun on you, that you think is real..... Everyone Keeps going on about Wyatt and the damn club, I would have brought something too , to defend myself.

Can you honestly tell me that to stab someone over and over is not meant to make sure they are dead???? 12 times, not once, BUT 12 times!!!! and in some places that shows how sick in the head he is.

Trial- Ok he is found not guilty, The Campbell Family did not say one word, Oh but David did, standing up clapping, then to say " Who's Laughing now bitches"...That,
shows how sick he is.

But hey you keep om cheering for them, but let me ask you this, Do you have kids? if you do keep a close eye on them around the murderers

Think About This Wrote:
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> You do not even know me, I do not lie, nor do I do
> Drugs!!... I went all 4 yrs to College, So sorry
> to disappoint you but I am not a ignorant person.
>
> Don't think the comment was actually directed
> towards you as an individual.
>
> That 15 yr old had NO RIGHT to take his life. Can
> you honestly say stabbing someone over and over 12
> times, is not Murder?
> Does when it's self-defense which it sounds based
> on Recap's posting.
> 9 wounds were superficial and the young kid even
> got cut, black eye, etc..
> Doesn't sound like murder, if he wanted to kill
> the older kid, he would have. You don't let
> someone go that can point you out.
>
> We just sent a message to Teenagers that Hey if
> you get in a fight, It's ok just Murder the person
> you are fighting, cause you will get off.
> Not true. The message to the kids should be this
> is what the end result can be when you bring a
> golf club and switch-blade.
>
> Worst of all we have a Murder living back near our
> community, yeah I feel Safe, and my kids I don't
> know if I want them to go out now.
> Person that defends themselves are not a murderer.
> I guess though you don't mind your kids being
> around the victim's brother and friends or the
> fact that they are in your neighborhood, even
> worse they live next door. I won't let them out!
>
> Think about this~ Did it ever occur to you that
> since there was no evidence, no witness, no knife
> with the boy's DNA, that he might not have been
> the one that made all those wounds? Did you once
> give Perez a thought? Have you actually read
> Recap's posting, many questions with the Perez
> guy. He was alone with the victim, knife in his
> jeep, could have cleaned it off before arrival to
> the hospital. When you have drugs and a lot of
> cash, a drug dealer does not have honest friends!
> Think about it~

yes I did, except Steven admitted to stabbing Wyatt, if he didn't stab him all 12 stabs, he had a chance to say something
"

Seeing how this thread is still alive and some don't think that the juries "not guilty verdict" is a sufficient penalty to keep the Smiths from repeating their crimes in the future, mayby a community out cry will help.

Steven Smith was breaking probation by engaging in the late night fight that cost the life of Wyatt Campbell.

Well what can the community Do?

Spend the 50 cents to send a simple letter to the Clerk of Courts (cc.. the Probation and Curfew Enforcement (PACE) Program) and let them know how you feel about the matter.

Juvenile & Domestic Relations District Court
1425 N. Courthouse Rd., Suite 5100
Arlington, VA 22201

703-228-4500

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct address for the Juvy court that has been handling Steve Smith's probation, so post a correction if needed.

Any particular reason why Steven Smith's juvenile proceedings would be taking place in Arlington County JDC rather than Fairfax County?

http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/jdr/fairfax_county/home.html

Understand where you are coming from, extremely doubtful though that this will result into anything. Based on a not guilty verdict he no longer has a record this too would apply to the misdemeanor charges (was reduced) that placed him on probation. I would think in turn, the 15-year old could get written statements from neighboring kids that had bought drugs from the victim and the fact that the victims' brother and friends are also located in the community even though as of today, they have not gott'n caught for their illegal actions but are known to the community and surrounding areas. Remember they are associated with those guys, Randy Taylor and Tony Perez (currently both on probation, one is a felon). Don't think the suggestion would get off the ground for many reasons. Just putting further hope and frustration on many.

As you know once a jury makes a decision it stands. We see that in the Casey Anthony trial where the public is in an outrage but the public can't do anything. No record, case closed. The only thing that can happen at this point, is that ALL learn what not to do, don't mess with drugs, be responsible citizens; and understand that the end result is not favorable for either party.

sounds like what steve smiths lawyer would say.

Ut videam Wrote:
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> Any particular reason why Steven Smith's juvenile
> proceedings would be taking place in Arlington
> County JDC rather than Fairfax County?
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> http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/jdr/fairfax_c
> ounty/home.html

Because Bystander is an idiot.

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David Smith is on probation also, and he has an outstanding possession case in PG.

HMM Anybody have the mailing address in PG?

Bystander Wrote:
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> HMM Anybody have the mailing address in PG?

Where do you live? Let me know so I can write letters about things that don't affect me and people I don't know to government officials in places I don't live.

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On the beach in Malibu of coarse. But right now I'm on a freinds boat in lake Michigan for two more weeks.
excuse the OFF TOPIC. Where I reside has nothing to do with the Smiths.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/11/2011 05:55PM by Bystander.

Bystander, you may want to go to your nearest 7-11 for your free slurpee instead of being on these threads and adding fuel to the fire especially since you do not have and interest, just spare time on your hands. And if you really were on a boat with friends, you must be having a really really boring time for you to be here. This should be the last place to be when someone honestly lives in Malibu on the beach and currently boating with friends. I wonder...?

@Slurpee - cause as we all know, most Malibu residents are naturally interested in what happens in Rose Hill LoLz

@Bystander - wow, really? And you said I was full of shit..............

@Mr Mephisto - I'm betting it's more like Malibu Circle Falls Church :)

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Slurpee - cause as we all know, most Malibu
> residents are naturally interested in what happens
> in Rose Hill LoLz
>
> @Bystander - wow, really? And you said I was full
> of shit..............
>
> @Mr Mephisto - I'm betting it's more like Malibu
> Circle Falls Church :)


Sounds more like a case of being jealous, That you are stuck in Rose hill, VA and he lives in beautiful Malibu, CA...... Why does that not surprise me coming from you

more like I'm living in reality :)
DEFINATELY not jealous of West Coast living - I like live natl news and live Saturday Night Live - and HATED dealing with PCH.......but that's a whole different thread, yo. LoLz