....you are the one who keeps bringing up and flashing a picture don't you have anything original to say instead of regurgitating your old (strange) arguments you do not know anything and instead paraphrase old news articles in an attempt to prove your point what is your point? do you have one, does it somehow make you better or safer to think that this child "deserved to die" since he didn't call 911 and he held a beer bottle in a jokey picture how about if the smiths had called 911 way back in June when they thought he had done something to steven how about if randy had called 911 when the smiths "attacked" him for some reason of your own it seems to make you feel better to blame the victim between keeping a picture and defending everyone elses actions and blaming this kid you sure are an odd odd little person

This is way OFF topic from Steve Smith being tried as an adault, so excuse me from replying.

What I see and don't see in that pic:
I see a poster of clean cut boy on his 18th birthday holding a beer in one hand and the bottle cap in the other. I surmise that the poster was made in a hurry because the teen was murdered a few days before.
What I don't see is anything projecting gangs, gangster mentality, criminal activity, Hood like, or anything sexually perverted in that poster. Hell, I don't even see a Sat. night special tucted away in his waist band.

So to sum it up, I don't have a clue why anybody replying to a thread about a teen being tried as an adault for murder would be fixating on that poster of the victom. But then again, I'm not mentally ill.




So, excuse me if I question the motivation of posters claimming that because of the evidence hidden in this picture, Wyatt Campbell must have been predisposed to alife of crime and murder.





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sigh.................

@to gordon & Bystander - to be quite honest, you guys(gals, I dunno) are the only ones fixated on that pic. Really doesnt have anything to do with the topic per se. I only brought it up again to answer this statement:

Wyatt was a good kid and a
> wonderful young man, why people are choosing to
> believe the bullshit spread about him is really
> sad to me.

cause a pic like that in real life is kinda unusual, and makes ppl wonder what sort of person he was, ESPECIALLY in light of how his death occured. Sorry you dont see that but it is. And it's not the fact that it's and underage person. Anybody at any age holding a beer in a memorial pic with the quote "May the Angels lead you to promise" underneath................well, it's just not something that normal ppl would have done. Like only gansta or bikerthugs would do something like that. If I'm wrong, then prove it. Show us how that's considered normal behaviour, to have pictures of 40 oz bottles in a memorial pic.

Or you can simply drop it about the pic and move on - cause in reality, it's y'all two who have brought it up WAAAYYY MORE than I have...............o_0

you finally have gotten our point, drop the references to a picture. and we don't have to prove anything to you nothing at all

Bystander Wrote:
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> What I see and don't see in that pic:
>
> ... What I don't see is anything projecting gangs,
> gangster mentality, criminal activity,

You mean like being proud of underage drinking?

As far as the gangster mentality... If you don't know that 40oz bottles of beer are part of the imagery associated with the thug/gangsta culture, you are either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

Do a google image search for "thug 40 oz" or "gangster 40 oz."

> So to sum it up, I don't have a clue why anybody
> replying to a thread about a teen being tried as
> an adault for murder would be fixating on that
> poster of the victom. But then again, I'm not
> mentally ill.

Because nobody is questioning whether or not the murderer should be tried as an adult. I'm pretty sure that everyone is in agreement that the Smith kid deserves to be punished and treated as a murderer. I haven't read a post from anyone saying that the Smith kid is innocent and didn't really kill Wyatt.

The argument comes down to Wyatt's involvement in his own death. Did he deserve to die? No. Did he make specific choices that led to him being murdered? Yes.

The reason people like Gordon Blvd. and I are debating this at all is that the people defending Wyatt and saying he was an innocent victim are defending and supporting the choices he made that led to his own demise. What I want, at least, is for the next kid to make the right choice and call the police instead of getting stabbed in a dirty alley behind a convenience store. If you think condemning the decisions Wyatt made that caused him to get stabbed is a sign of mental illness, then I'm glad I'm crazy.

> So, excuse me if I question the motivation of
> posters claimming that because of the evidence
> hidden in this picture, Wyatt Campbell must have
> been predisposed to alife of crime and murder.

Again, this is either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant. When choosing a memorial picture, people tend to use photos that reflect what the deceased was like in life. When it came to Wyatt, his friends chose to remember him as a guy that drank shitty beer underage, not a guy that volunteered at homeless shelters, loved puppies, enjoyed sports, or loved his family. Not a picture of him with pets, not a picture of him playing ball, not a picture of him cropped from a family photo, but a picture of him proudly displaying a 40oz bottle of shitty beer.

Like it or not, a picture like that sends a certain message, and that message is not "upstanding pillar of the community."

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to gordon Wrote:
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> you finally have gotten our point, drop the
> references to a picture. and we don't have to
> prove anything to you nothing at all

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then stop making references to it, as you have for the last 3 hours that you have been seemingly trying to prove something to me

LoLz
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MrMephisto's post above constitutes the definitive word on this topic.

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Re: Steven Smith 15yrs old Ordered to Stand Trial as a Adult in the Murder of Wyatt Campbell
Posted by: Bystander ()
Date: May 16, 2011 01:30PM
In reply to MEPH

Bystander Wrote:
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> What I see and don't see in that pic:
>
> ... What I don't see is anything projecting gangs,
> gangster mentality, criminal activity,

Meph: You mean like being proud of underage drinking?
Bystander: NO

Meph: As far as the gangster mentality... If you don't know that 40oz bottles of beer are part of the imagery associated with the thug/gangsta culture, you are either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

Do a google image search for "thug 40 oz" or "gangster 40 oz."
Bystander: I tried the google search and in the top 20 I couldn't find what you state, however, realizing that 40 oz beers apear to intimidate you "I understand your shortcomings."

> So to sum it up, I don't have a clue why anybody
> replying to a thread about a teen being tried as
> an adault for murder would be fixating on that
> poster of the victom. But then again, I'm not
> mentally ill.

Meph: Because nobody is questioning whether or not the murderer should be tried as an adult. I'm pretty sure that everyone is in agreement that the Smith kid deserves to be punished and treated as a murderer. I haven't read a post from anyone saying that the Smith kid is innocent and didn't really kill Wyatt.

The argument comes down to Wyatt's involvement in his own death. Did he deserve to die? No. Did he make specific choices that led to him being murdered? Yes.

Bystander: I concure, but have to withhold comment.

Meph: The reason people like Gordon Blvd. and I are debating this at all is that the people defending Wyatt and saying he was an innocent victim are defending and supporting the choices he made that led to his own demise. What I want, at least, is for the next kid to make the right choice and call the police instead of getting stabbed in a dirty alley behind a convenience store.

Bystander: Nobody wants to see this situation repeat itself.


Meph: If you think condemning the decisions Wyatt made that caused him to get stabbed is a sign of mental illness, then I'm glad I'm crazy.
Bystander: No. That in it self has nothing to do with signs of mental illness.

> So, excuse me if I question the motivation of
> posters claimming that because of the evidence
> hidden in this picture, Wyatt Campbell must have
> been predisposed to alife of crime and murder.

Meph: Again, this is either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant. When choosing a memorial picture, people tend to use photos that reflect what the deceased was like in life. When it came to Wyatt, his friends chose to remember him as a guy that drank shitty beer underage, not a guy that volunteered at homeless shelters, loved puppies, enjoyed sports, or loved his family. Not a picture of him with pets, not a picture of him playing ball, not a picture of him cropped from a family photo, but a picture of him proudly displaying a 40oz bottle of shitty beer.

Like it or not, a picture like that sends a certain message, and that message is not "upstanding pillar of the community."

Bystander: And I'm proud of you for going back on your Meds today. You seem a lot more cohearant.




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> In reply to METH

Pretty colors. I think I'm supposed to be impressed, but I'm not.

> Bystander: I tried the google search and in the
> top 20 I couldn't find what you state,

See the picture below. Nope, no association with gangsta lifestyle there.

EDIT: In fairness, the "40oz to Freedom" thing is a reference to the band Sublime. Although, in further fairness, Sublime was also big into drinking and drug use.

> Bystander: And I'm proud of you for going back on
> your Meds today. You seem a lot more cohearant.

What I wrote is just a reiteration of things that everyone (including me) has said at least twice already. It's not our fault you can't understand simple concepts.

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@ Mr Mephisto - yep, cant see ANY CONNECTION THERE, NOSIREE-BOB!!!

@ Pinhead - hilarious!!

@ everybody - guess who shows up if you google "40 oz memorial pic" under images?

@ Bystander - nice namecalling.


I just had a friend of mine point out that after reading these two threads about Mr Campbell, that it is only defenders of Wyatt's actions who namecall and threaten - has anyone else noticed that?

anywho, can anyone who knew the kid tell us where he was working? Cause apparently, he had $8 Large that he wasnt even keeping in a bank, but in a safe..........a safe that WASNT EVEN AT HIS OWN HOME, apparently - and if that story is true, then I gotta know what sort of job he had that an 18 yr old guy could get that could have him save that sort revenue...............hmmmmmm.............

Re: Steven Smith 15yrs old Ordered to Stand Trial as a Adult in the Murder of Wyatt Campbell
Posted by: Bystander ()
Date: May 16, 2011 07:28PM

Good Riddens lol

Real mature, Bystander. I guess if you can't discuss the issue at hand, it's best to just act like a defeated little bitch.

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@ Mr Mephisto -I'm still wondering what sort of job the young man had where he was able to save $8 thou.............................

... in cash... and didn't want to deposit it in a bank, or even keep it in his house.

Things that make you go hmm....

Bystander is changing the font color and not closing the tag to white out the text because he can't stand the idea of anyone disagreeing with him.

If your post has been affected, edit it and put < font color= "black" > (minus the spaces after the < and before the >) at the beginning of your post.

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Why does it matter to you two sooo much about Wyatt Campbell???? Yes I am speaking to GORDON AND HIS GIRLFRIEND MEPHHISTO. First off you two are the biggest fuckin idiots I have seen on here. From 1 picture you have determined that Wyatt Campbell was a "gansta". You really should not make snap judgements about someone or something you know nothing about. 2nd that picture was one of many on a PRIVATE MEMORIAL SITE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. It was not the sole picture you two dumbasses. The Patch was the one who chose to run that picture. Anyway as far as what happened that night I dont think we will ever really know, the one person who could have told us is dead. I know this might be hard for you two to understand so I will try to explain in the simplest terms I can. There was a safe yes, the police were told, what they chose to do with that info we have no idea. as far as how much money that is really no ones business but Wyatt's family. Why you find it so hard to believe that people will rob and kill over a safe since they do over Nike Tennis Shoes is beyond me. Why you have such a hard time understanding that people will pretend to be your friend and then talk and trash you behind your back is beyond me. Wyatt thought Randy was his freind, he had no idea Randy was just a backstabbing fake ass lying bitch. Randy was jealous of Wyatt over alot of things. People rob and kill over things like tennis shoes as i said, jackets, clothes, hell term papers. So why is it you two can not seem to get thru your freakin heads as empty as they seem that just because it is Little Ole Fairfax county that does not mean that a MURDER was not a set up. Let's say for the sake of agruement that Wyatt did have a golf club because remember according to good ole reliable Randy Taylor after Wyatt and "HE" dropped off weed to Wyatt's grandmas house, he did not see Wyatt with a club because he was walking behind him. Oh that's right HE LIED because he never went into the house with Wyatt. He just dropped him off. But boy Randy is such a reiable friend and witness right. then 15 mins later it was Randy who called Wyatt for help what was actucally said we will never really know. But you all keep on believeing Randy!!! We chose to believe the truth. All I know is this, You two are a couple of jackasses who like to start crap and trash a young man who is dead and can not defend himself. His family is in mourning you really think they are going to come on here of all places to give any kind of statement. You two go on though running your mouths cuz really all it is becoming is the same shit over and over * BIG ASS YAWN*.. I am sure you and your girlffreind, gay lover, or whatever you refer to each other as will keep on running your nasty mouths but that is what INGORE is for

Who Cares Wrote:
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> Why does it matter to you two sooo much about
> Wyatt Campbell???? Yes I am speaking to GORDON AND
> HIS GIRLFRIEND MEPHHISTO.

(sigh).............again, because I shop at that shopping center. Because my children go to the library across the street. Because I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED WHEN PEOPLE START FIGHTS/GET KILLED IN MY COUNTY! Get that thru yr thick skull cause I've said it before, already.


First off you two are
> the biggest fuckin idiots I have seen on here.
> From 1 picture you have determined that Wyatt
> Campbell was a "gansta".

no, it is not just the picture. It is the fact he was into drug dealing, commiting crimes, hanging with violent people, and using weapons in fights which have led me to picture him as "gansta" - and not a real "gansta" either, more of a gansta wannabe, if you want me to be completely honest with you.



You really should not
> make snap judgements about someone or something
> you know nothing about. 2nd that picture was one
> of many on a PRIVATE MEMORIAL SITE ON PRIVATE
> PROPERTY. It was not the sole picture you two
> dumbasses. The Patch was the one who chose to run
> that picture.

and now it is public domain property, as it was taken by a picture taken by a public newspaper, and published as such. You have a problem with that? Sue the Patch. Good luck on that as I'm betting you've never heard of the 1st Amendment LoLz




Anyway as far as what happened that
> night I dont think we will ever really know, the
> one person who could have told us is dead.

No, apparently there are 3 other witness testimonies.

http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/witness-statements-shed-new-light-on-rose-hill-teens-death



I know
> this might be hard for you two to understand so I
> will try to explain in the simplest terms I can.
> There was a safe yes, the police were told, what
> they chose to do with that info we have no idea.
> as far as how much money that is really no ones
> business but Wyatt's family.

how VERY interesting......................well, just to let you know - if the safe was implicated in a cause for the murder, than it's MORE BUSINESS THAN JUST "Wyatt's family" as it would be a police matter, then.



Why you find it so
> hard to believe that people will rob and kill over
> a safe since they do over Nike Tennis Shoes is
> beyond me.

Um, those sorts of crimes happened WHEN THE THIEF DOESNT KNOW THE VICTIM. You are AGAIN acting as if Wyatt was jumped by unknown ppl. It's kinda odd to think that someone's best friend, who he's "known all his life" is going to jump him with his own worst enemy over a safe when he could simply just have asked his pal to by him some Nikes (y'know, since he's got $8 Large in a safe somewhere LoLz)

Why you have such a hard time
> understanding that people will pretend to be your
> friend and then talk and trash you behind your
> back is beyond me.

Cause I seriously believe that even though Wyatt made some stupid choices that night, that he have WAY MORE OF A BRAIN than you are painting him to have. Cause as the story goes, he went to help back up Randy in this fight. The way you are putting it, he would have had to have been a braindead moron to back up someone who was talking trash behind him. And I seriously dont believe he'd have been that stupid.

Wyatt thought Randy was his
> freind, he had no idea Randy was just a
> backstabbing fake ass lying bitch. Randy was
> jealous of Wyatt over alot of things. People rob
> and kill over things like tennis shoes as i said,
> jackets, clothes, hell term papers.

y'know, as sad and pathetic as you are trying to make Rose Hill sound, I dont think kid are killing each other over term papers out there o_0


So why is it
> you two can not seem to get thru your freakin
> heads as empty as they seem that just because it
> is Little Ole Fairfax county that does not mean
> that a MURDER was not a set up.

Cause it makes WAAYYY MORE SENSE for it to have gone down the way everyone says it did, other than those who are doing the "real cover-up" for Wyatt's "honour", or whatever it is you are doing.

Let's say for the
> sake of agruement that Wyatt did have a golf club
> because remember according to good ole reliable
> Randy Taylor after Wyatt and "HE" dropped off weed
> to Wyatt's grandmas house, he did not see Wyatt
> with a club because he was walking behind him. Oh
> that's right HE LIED because he never went into
> the house with Wyatt. He just dropped him off.

um, you just said he dropped Wyatt off - how's that a lie? Just cause he didnt hold Wyatt's hand and go in the house with him? Wyatt was a big boy, y'know................


But
> boy Randy is such a reiable friend and witness
> right. then 15 mins later it was Randy who called
> Wyatt for help what was actucally said we will
> never really know. But you all keep on believeing
> Randy!!! We chose to believe the truth.

which is.......................? Still waiting to know what sorta "job" Wyatt had that could net him $8 Large.



All I know
> is this, You two are a couple of jackasses who
> like to start crap and trash a young man who is
> dead and can not defend himself.


again, IT IS NOT ABOUT MR. CAMPBELL - IT IS ABOUT THE DUMB CHOICES HE MADE THAT NIGHT! are you really so dense you cannot comprehend that the "MAN" and the "CHOICES" are two different things?


His family is in
> mourning you really think they are going to come
> on here of all places to give any kind of
> statement.

Not really - why would they come here?


You two go on though running your
> mouths cuz really all it is becoming is the same
> shit over and over * BIG ASS YAWN*.

Hence, Pinhead's video above (AWESOME SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS, Pinhead! LoLz)


. I am sure you
> and your girlffreind, gay lover, or whatever you
> refer to each other as will keep on running your
> nasty mouths but that is what INGORE is for

yep, we prolly will. Y'all really weird to be so obsessed with sexuality on a thread like this...............but if you ever get yr head out of the gutter and seriously want to make you and yr friend look like a decent kid, then try to explain yrself without the namecalling and cursing like a common street thug.

Or you can continue to do that, and make why look like he hung out with gansta thugs.

Your call
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Your right Gordon, you have it all figured out!!! Lets give the boy a cookie!!! Wow You should really think about being a private eye etc. Wow I am just in awe of your keen sense to solve this crime!!!

NOT!!!! ....You know what I think, I think you are nothing more them some punk kid pretending to be something on here your not. You can not seem to see to compute anything into your head besides what you believe to be the truth. You keep repeating the same shit over and over. So let me get this straight Wyatt was a drug dealer according to you, what are you basing this on??? Randy's Testimony in court?? Because what he said was HE wanted to drop off weed he had because he was on probation. What else because of accusations people have made on these threads? Well let's see I am sure 90 percent were from the Smith Family or Stevens Friends. Unless you have solid proof you should not spread lies like that.. its called slander and deflamation of charcator, opps spelled it wrong but you get the piont. Why because because of a safe so what alot of people have safes not unusual at all. what is funny to me is you and your little girlfriend never seem to say anything about Steven Smith or his upbringing he is the MURDERER. BTW Wyatt did not know his murderer as you say. Again you are going by A rumor. None EVER said RANDY was Wyatt;s Best Friend because he was not. You seem to like to twist peoples words. you said you were so interested in this because you shop there and your kids which I doubt you really have go to the libarey Why dont you stop bashing a young man who lost his life and start thinking of ways to prevent it from happening again like Spot Lights in the Alley, Hidden Cameras etc maybe increasaed secuirty at the shopping center. Oh but wait that would be for someonewith atleast a half ounce of intelligence would to do.

no, someone with a half ounce of intelligence would not choose to fight in an alleyway behind the Sev in the first place..................o_0

that'll keep you safe, kids. Just not do that, k?

and no, I think he's dealing drugs cause he's had $8 Large in a safe and not in the bank. And no, it's not unusual for ppl to have safes. NORMAL ppl with safes, however, keep important paperwork and yes, some cash in it - but keep MOST of their cash in the BAAAANNNNNNNNNNK! And normal ppl keep their safes at HOOOOOOOOMMMMMME!!!!!

So most ppl with $8 Thou are a little older and have a JOB (love how you keep ignoring that wee lil' point).

Just cause I "THINK" something doesnt make it slander, dude.

Another thing - grow up and stop playing responsibility of this fight on the Shopping Center - that's the most lame thing you've said yet :(

it must drive you crazy that you can't make this fit into your idea of Fairfax County wyatt didn't choose to fight he was ambushed GROW UP horrible things happen to good people wyatt DID have a job for whatever reasons of your own you ignore that fact....this was also printed in the media.....must of missed that or it didnt work with your synopsis Gordo you also stated as fact that wyatt was a drug dealer....where is your proof....he has no record at all and the only ones who brought that up are the people who have a stake in staying out of jail...quit making your libelous comments...you do not know wyatt so quit making comments that you can't back up everything that wyatt's defenders have posted can be proven unlike your comments

So we should wholly disregard the prosecution's evidence, eyewitness statements, testimony from those involved, and the police investigation for the words of some anonymous person on the internet who claims to know the truth but won't say it? This truth revolving around Wyatt being jumped by three people in front of witnesses so they could kill him and steal a safe he had, I don't know, buried in the woods or something?

Where was this safe, anyway? If it wasn't at Wyatt's house, why didn't they just go steal it without killing him? Did Wyatt carry the safe around with him all the time?

If you're so eager to see justice done, why haven't you gone to the police about any of this? Is it for the same bullshit "no snitching" policy that got one kid killed already?

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Wyatt did have a job, again you are going by RUMORS as far as how much money was in his safe. the bottom line is you are nothing more then someone who has no life so you come on here and hide behind his screen name typing away your piontless shit. again Really Really Strange that you seem to have this obsession with Wyatt. What you have also shown is your stupidity, You are saying that Wyatt was a drug dealer because he had according to rumors 8,000 in a safe. damn good thing you are not a det or cop cause you would fuck up evey case you had. Anyway I am done wasting my time with you it is apparent you have no intellienge as well as no real life. Does your Boyfreind know you spend all your time on here obssessing over a person who died??? As far as your comments about no one will answer your questions your damn right no will. you are a outsider, a pea-on, nothing to us. We Wyatts real friends and family know the truth, you on the other hand only know how to spread lies about Wyatt and rumors

I know the truth about Wyatt.

He's still dead.

@ Ut videam - HARSH REALM, dude!

@Who Cares - love how what's in the newspaper and what witnesses say are just "rumours" to you - but whatevers.

@last answer - libelous.................um, ok - I think you should hire a lawyer and sue!

LoLz

Ut videam Wrote:
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> I know the truth about Wyatt.
>
> He's still dead.


I know the truth about You.

your still a dumbass

your so funny Wrote:
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>
> I know the truth about You.
>
> your still a dumbass


and yet he's still alive

imagine that....................................

let's make wiser choices in the future and we can ALL live to be dumbasses someday

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> your so funny Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > I know the truth about You.
> >
> > your still a dumbass
>
>
> and yet he's still alive
>
> imagine that....................................
>
> let's make wiser choices in the future and we can
> ALL live to be dumbasses someday

i was sitting here getting ready to write something nasty then I realized Why sink to your level.

your so funny Wrote:
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> I know the truth about You.
>
> your still a dumbass

Says the dipshit who doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

When somebody writes: "Your a retard" to me, I think to myself: "I don't own something called 'a retard'".

@yoursofunny: what was nasty about what I said?

@ Yabels: +1

@Ut videam: did anybody ever answer why he brought a golf club to the Sev?

Why would anyone have their safe at someone else's house in stead of their own?
Where was this safe?
Why would someone need to be set-up in order to steal a safe which was not at their home?
Based on several posters that know everything, how can Randy be a truthful witness for the prosecution?
I would think by now that the prosecution would not put Randy on the stand, especially since they have been reading this and the other thread.

The 15 year old never admitted to killing the victim, only that he did attack him.
May 2, 2011-----The teenage defendant charged with a Rose Hill murder told police he attacked the victim. The day after Campbell died, the defendant told police he and his older brother had targeted Campbell the night he died. The affidavit does not say the defendant or his brother confessed to murdering Campbell, however.
According to another police affidavit, the weapon used to stab Campbell was never recovered.
The two brothers also told police that they used a replica pellet pistol gun in the attack. A broken pistol replica was found at the scene of Campbell's stabbing, behind Rose Hill Shopping Center.

Was it Randy that actually stabbed Campbell?
Where does this Tony guy come into play?
Could Randy be setting up the 15 year old boy?

March 15, 2011----After the fight, according to Taylor, Campbell said he was having trouble breathing, and another friend drove Campbell to Inova Springfield Hospital.
Is Tony the "other" friend? When did Tony show up behind 7-11? How did Tony know there was a fight?

March 15, 2011 -----The events surrounding Campbell's death--how he ended up in an alley behind a Rose Hill 7-Eleven, why he supposedly got in an altercation in front of the store minutes before--remain confused.
Taylor said he had gone to the 7-Eleven with Campbell, when they encountered the defendant's older brother, who Taylor said punched Campbell.
--The victim was not at home alone, he was with Randy-------
In Taylor's testimony, the two groups then agreed to meet behind the store, because Taylor was on probation and hoped to avoid a public fight. After going to Campbell's grandmother's house to drop off some marijuana, according to Taylor's testimony, he returned with Campbell to the alley behind the store, where the defendant and his older brother fought with Campbell and Taylor.

Some of the posters that keep saying that "they know what happen" appears not to be truly informed vs. the articles on the Rose Hill Patch. AND if they honestly know the "truth" then why are they telling it here and not to the prosecutor?

Not many accurate statements; therefore, no one should be verbally attacking other posters when questions are being reflected, because there's too many smelly fishes in this case. The prosecution and the defense NEVER shows all their cards, time will tell.
ALL of the boys chose to fight that night, with death not part of the outcome.
The 5th of July more light will be shed to so many questions that the public, friends; and most importantly, the families has.

Questions Wrote:
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> Why would anyone have their safe at someone else's
> house in stead of their own?
> Where was this safe?
> Why would someone need to be set-up in order to
> steal a safe which was not at their home?
> Based on several posters that know everything, how
> can Randy be a truthful witness for the
> prosecution?
> I would think by now that the prosecution would
> not put Randy on the stand, especially since they
> have been reading this and the other thread.
>
> The 15 year old never admitted to killing the
> victim, only that he did attack him.
> May 2, 2011-----The teenage defendant charged with
> a Rose Hill murder told police he attacked the
> victim. The day after Campbell died, the defendant
> told police he and his older brother had targeted
> Campbell the night he died. The affidavit does not
> say the defendant or his brother confessed to
> murdering Campbell, however.
> According to another police affidavit, the weapon
> used to stab Campbell was never recovered.
> The two brothers also told police that they used a
> replica pellet pistol gun in the attack. A broken
> pistol replica was found at the scene of
> Campbell's stabbing, behind Rose Hill Shopping
> Center.
>
> Was it Randy that actually stabbed Campbell?
> Where does this Tony guy come into play?
> Could Randy be setting up the 15 year old boy?
>
> March 15, 2011----After the fight, according to
> Taylor, Campbell said he was having trouble
> breathing, and another friend drove Campbell to
> Inova Springfield Hospital.
> Is Tony the "other" friend? When did Tony show up
> behind 7-11? How did Tony know there was a fight?
>
> March 15, 2011 -----The events surrounding
> Campbell's death--how he ended up in an alley
> behind a Rose Hill 7-Eleven, why he supposedly got
> in an altercation in front of the store minutes
> before--remain confused.
> Taylor said he had gone to the 7-Eleven with
> Campbell, when they encountered the defendant's
> older brother, who Taylor said punched Campbell.
> --The victim was not at home alone, he was with
> Randy-------
> In Taylor's testimony, the two groups then agreed
> to meet behind the store, because Taylor was on
> probation and hoped to avoid a public fight. After
> going to Campbell's grandmother's house to drop
> off some marijuana, according to Taylor's
> testimony, he returned with Campbell to the alley
> behind the store, where the defendant and his
> older brother fought with Campbell and Taylor.
>
> Some of the posters that keep saying that "they
> know what happen" appears not to be truly informed
> vs. the articles on the Rose Hill Patch. AND if
> they honestly know the "truth" then why are they
> telling it here and not to the prosecutor?
>
> Not many accurate statements; therefore, no one
> should be verbally attacking other posters when
> questions are being reflected, because there's too
> many smelly fishes in this case. The prosecution
> and the defense NEVER shows all their cards, time
> will tell.
> ALL of the boys chose to fight that night, with
> death not part of the outcome.
> The 5th of July more light will be shed to so many
> questions that the public, friends; and most
> importantly, the families has.

Please 15 Stab Wounds Does not say that person was not looking to kill somebody that night. that does not say self defense that says He admitted to stalking Wyatt, he and his brother who still has not been charged!! were out looking for Wyatt that night. 15 stab wounds says he was looking to KILL Wyatt not just hurt.

@Get Real................um, that's why he's being charged with MURDER!

you really need to read the paper more

LoLz

we all get that part. Wyatt robbed him a while back and he wanted revenge - he and his brother saw them at the Sev and things got hot. EVERYBODY and their mother gets that part. That's why it's not really discussed - cause everybody gets it.

What most ppl cant figure out is how

a) you agree to meet up later with these guys who wanna fight you

b) you go home, grab a weapon, and come back to fight

c) why you'd keep $8 large in a safe that's not at your house........well, to be honest most of us can figure this one out - we are just being to nice to bring it up LoLz

if he'd just gone to the safe, locked up the pot, then gone to Grams house and called the cops, brought them to the Sev - then the Smith boy would have gone to jail for carrying the BB gun, and Wyatt would still be alive.

Or heck, just go home and smoke the pot - he'd be high AND alive right now.

Either way, doesnt seem they were "looking" for Wyatt, seems they just happened to run into him - cause if they were "looking" for him, they would have been prepared to handle business RIGHT THEN AND THERE!

Doesnt make sense if you are gunning for someone to find them, then say "Oh, you arent ready? Well, we will meet up with you later, how about that?"
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Excuse Me Gordon Blvd, But I believe I was speaking to the person known as Questions,not you. After reading alot of your rantings I see you like to put your 2 cents into everyones conversations. Being the center of attention. Ill take the bait though in reference to your comments I'm well aware of the story behind what happened, My comment was about the comment Questions made in regard to the fact they were looking to fight each other, not kill each other. I disagree with that statement. If you stab someone 15 times you are trying to kill them. Does not take rocket science to see that. As for your comments well I could resort to a pissing contest with you but I'm not. Sometimes things are not always as clear cut as they seem. We will see July 5. One more thing I noticed you keep saying no one is clearing up anything, Did you ever stop to think that Wyatt's family is in mourning and that they do not come on here and read the trash people are talking. i know that is how i would be if i lost my child.

@Get Real - do you even understand the concept of a public forum?

Anywho, if yr gonna get all butthurt over someone commenting on what you say, then use the "PM" feature to "PRIVATELY MESSAGE" someone.

And no, this site aint about me - I'm about as much the center of attention here as a mattress label would be in a Lauren Conrad photo shoot

And you are the only one bringing up Wyatt's family - dunno why you think I'm referring to them, so you van just STFU on that point. Only time I've mentioned his fam is his Grams's knowledge base of his friends being angry, and her fearing retaliation (per the Patch article) which gladly, has not occurred. I'm sure his family has enough common sense not to come look on the interweb for guidance LoLz.

and, to play devils advocate, it would depend on where those 15 stab wounds happened to determine if, in fact, someone was trying to kill or not. For example, if you do it in the legs, you may be just trying to make sure they can never walk again. I dont think that happened in this case, I'm just saying that YES, things are not always as clearcut as they seem. That door can swing both ways, yo.

This thread was started about a 15 year old that is to be tried as an adault for murdering an 18 year old.
There is a lot of mis information posted here and I know that for many, it is hard to stay tight lipped when you read these posts, but it is really important that you keep it that way.
Mean while there are several that are so mentally superior to the rest of us that they choose to find their role in sociaty by living through these forums and by trying to get peoples goats. Please think before feeding these trolls.

Our hearts and prayers go out to those whom have lost so much. I hope that all of you can find closure in the near future.

Bystander Wrote:
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> This thread was started about a 15 year old that
> is to be tried as an adault for murdering an 18
> year old.
> There is a lot of mis information posted here and
> I know that for many, it is hard to stay tight
> lipped when you read these posts, but it is really
> important that you keep it that way.
> Mean while there are several that are so mentally
> superior to the rest of us that they choose to
> find their role in sociaty by living through these
> forums and by trying to get peoples goats. Please
> think before feeding these trolls.
>
> Our hearts and prayers go out to those whom have
> lost so much. I hope that all of you can find
> closure in the near future.

Or maybe we're trying to get people to acknowledge the reality of the situation so they don't make the same stupid mistakes that Wyatt or the Smith kid did.

But hey, by all means, go get stabbed instead of calling the police. It won't be long before we're reading about your completely avoidable death on here.

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This thread was started about a 15 year old that is to be tried as an adault for murdering an 18 year old.
There is a lot of mis info posted here and I know that for many, it is hard to stay tight lipped when you read these posts, but it is really important that you keep it that way.
Mean while there are several that are so mentally superior to the rest of us that they choose to find their role in sociaty by living through these forums and by trying to get peoples goats. Please think before feeding these trolls.

Our hearts go out to those whom have lost so much. I hope that all of you can find closure in the near future.
OPPs Sorry repeat post!

Meph: Ok - funny you would think it was meant for you. Anyway, as I've stated before: I totally agree that it is very important to point out to our youths that the choice to harm someone in such a way is a bad choice that has horrible consequences for everybody. Thanks.



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Bystander, you posted the same thing in this thread at 11:30 am. Even the typos are the same. We heard you the first time. Now go away.

Bystander, I used to think that you were a mature, reasonably intelligent person who simply had a completely different viewpoint on this situation than I did.

Now, between embedding the music, turning the font white, and copy/pasting the same thing over and over again, I'm pretty sure you're just a dumb kid that can write decently.

Yeah, this thread is about the 15 year old who killed someone and was arrested. It's also about the kid who got stabbed and the choices he made that contributed to his own death. If you can't see that, then you and your friends will make the same mistakes.

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I didn't know about the music.

edit by Cary: closed intentionally left open HTML tag. User banned for 7 days.



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EDITED because Cary fixed the HTML hack left by the anon poster.



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Bystander Wrote:
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> Meph: Ok - funny you would think it was meant for
> you. Anyway, as I've stated before: I totally
> agree that it is very important to point out to
> our youths that the choice to harm someone in such
> a way is a bad choice that has horrible
> consequences for everybody. Thanks.

The Smith kid is already being held accountable for his actions.

We know that Wyatt got involved in the fight, whether it was because Randy called him for help or because they agreed to it in front of the 7-11 as eyewitnesses state. That in mind, please answer this simple question: Do you think Wyatt was right to get involved in the altercation directly, or do you think he should have called the police?

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Our hearts and prayers go out to those whom have lost so much.
This has been mentioned on the other thread where a poster constantly got chastised by the victim's pretend aunt (not saying pretend in a bad tone because I had one).
Most definitely, to both families who's lives have changed dramatically!

My comment was about the comment Questions made in regard to the fact they were looking to fight each other, not kill each other. I disagree with that statement. If you stab someone 15 times you are trying to kill them.
Stabbing someone 15 times does not mean that you are out to "kill" someone, were you there to see the fight, do you know exactly where the victim was stabbed?
Yes there are individuals out here who "plans" to kill someone but in this case, I am sure that was not the game plan, it was to fight it out, not to kill. Alot of the times, multiple stab wounds are to enable the individual in order to stop them from further attacking you with the intent not to kill. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this, especially when you are not so close to the victim.

wow...............looks like I missed a lot.................

gonna attack the site cause you dont agree with what others are saying - that's not very mature, "this topic"

btw, did anyone ever answer exactly what reasoning was behind having a golf club with him if he WASNT going to fight, and was being set up by his friend?

nobody was attacking the site, they were attacking you bunch of bumblefucks arguing onanonanonanon about the same dumb shit.

you live by the sword, you die by the sword, that's all that has to be said.

Fuck em, I'm glad he's gone and I hope the rest of them make their way to the same location sooner rather than later.

You aren't going to ever successfully argue with anyone intent and comfortable for refusing personal responsibility for anything. You just aren't.

PS. Cary, you should find a way to close any outstanding HTML tags at the end of each post. I found that issue on accident earlier today. Someone COULD do much more severe damage to your board with little to no HTML knowledge if they wanted.

if someone purposely did this HTML thingee, then yeah - that's attacking the site

cause it aint effecting my life at all - it's Cary that has to fix the shit

and yeah, yr right - there's no sense in beating a dead horse

..........................except, of course, for the shear pleasure of it ;)

LoLz

This Forum is suppose to be about STEVEN SMITH not so much about Wyatt. I am so amazed at the postings on here all Wyatt Wyatt Wyatt nothing about the MURDERER or the fact that the other one MURDERER is still on the streets working at as store that young kids shop in and teens. Geez what is to say he does'nt get mad at someone and stab them to death again or shoot them. But lets not talk about that right

It's so obvious who "Get Real" is, the one who started this thread and who was trying to stop others on the Stabbing in Rose Hill thread to reflect their thoughts, questions, opinions; and sympathy for both families.
We'll see you again on the Patch when an updated article is published.

Obvious Wrote:
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> It's so obvious who "Get Real" is, the one who
> started this thread and who was trying to stop
> others on the Stabbing in Rose Hill thread to
> reflect their thoughts, questions, opinions; and
> sympathy for both families.
> We'll see you again on the Patch when an updated
> article is published.


Actually I did not start this thread, trust if i did I would say so. I have a opinion just like everyone of you too, to fuckin bad if you dont like it

Get Real Wrote:
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> Actually I did not start this thread, trust if i
> did I would say so. I have a opinion just like
> everyone of you too, to fuckin bad if you dont
> like it
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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Get Real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Actually I did not start this thread, trust if
> i
> > did I would say so. I have a opinion just like
> > everyone of you too, to fuckin bad if you dont
> > like it


I am Calm just do not like being accused of something I did not do.

both people were/are not good people. either one of them could have died that night...steven clearly did not have a bright future even before this happened. hopefully he learns from this

Both could have died that night??? right ....seems to me that the only DNA and Blood found were Wyatt's, even the golf club, which says it was not self defense it was MURDER plain and simple. Wyatt was set up.....

@alkd - both could have most certainly gotten injured that night since that was their intention - to fight each other, and since both boys brought weapons :(

To:Gordon

I am done trying to convince you and your bone head friends on here of what really happened. I realized it is not my job. I know the truth and what kind of person Wyatt was. He was a young man who could brighten any ones day. you can say what ever mean and hateful untrue things you want I know there bullshit.

So yr telling us he went to that 7-Eleven to "brighten" someone's day? With a golf club? That's what sounds like complete bullshit.

yep, it's mean and hateful to say that he'd prolly still be alive if he'd chosen to stay home that day..............................

Gordon Blvd Wrote:

which still doesnt answer the question as to why the legally GROWN MAN "who could brighten any ones day" brought a golf club with him to the Sev, if in fact he was already at home after an earlier confrontation with this kid.

as for yr crybaby responce, bystander:



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No Gordon, Nobody is crying over you're inadequacies here. You really are living up to your rep around here.



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Hi, I've got a 9 Iron, allow me to brighten your day!
I also have a Louisville Slugger, bend over and lets have a fantastic week!

Feeling blue? Let my 12 gauge cheer you up!

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Bystander we appreciate what you are trying to say but the trolls will always have the last word (they have no life). it really isn't worth the fight, they seem to think that bad things only happen to bad people or the people somehow deserved it. they base their "knowledge" on insufficient facts printed in the media. Somehow they have determined that the Patch is printing the entire story. Since the Patch won't even print the murderer's name, that should be enough to show that it can't/won't print the entire scenario. What Wyatt's family and friends know cannot be proven in court yet, but it will be eventually. Randy Taylor lied, that has been proven. There will be a plea, but again that has not been printed. Just let them alone, and let Wyatt's family try to heal. Thank you

I agree, and will stop feeding the Trolls.

@ bystander- you think I have a "rep"?
that's sad in and of itself that you think I have a "rep" cause nobody on this site gives a fuck what I say, trust me on that.

@let it be - so what has Randy Taylor lied about that has been "proven", since the trial hasnt happened yet. BTW, Patch wont print killer's name cause he is a minor, not cause they can't/won't print the entire scenario. Two completely different reasons.

@ ProVallone, MrMephisto - notice they STILL wont answer why he'd bring a golf club to the Sev - see, that's just normal, everyday cheering up in their book LoLz

It's not just the Patch that had covered this story and did not reflect the minor's name; however, they are the only one's that have continued to provide updates. With that said, the Code of Ethics of Journalism will not permit a minor's name to be printed; therefore, the Patch is following the appropriate guidelines.
If Randy is such a liar, then how is he the prosecutors main witness? What does the victim's family and friends know that "cannot" be proven in court, yet? If there is any information that should be provided to the prosecution, no matter how big or small these people may think it is, then they need to speak up!
Who proved that Randy lied, the information that has been reflected on this and the other thread or what has been provided to the prosecution? Why and how will there be a plea, based on what?
Whoever started this thread did not take into consideration that Steven Smith's parents was also grieving, it's a two way street whether the victim's family/friends like it or not. They too are grieving and probably so damn embarrassed along with being dumbfounded that their child did such a unforgivable horrendous crime. It's a lose-lose for all involved.

Hmmmmm Wrote:
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> If Randy is such a liar, then how is he the
> prosecutors main witness? What does the victim's
> family and friends know that "cannot" be proven in
> court, yet? If there is any information that
> should be provided to the prosecution, no matter
> how big or small these people may think it is,
> then they need to speak up!
> Who proved that Randy lied, the information that
> has been reflected on this and the other thread or
> what has been provided to the prosecution? Why and
> how will there be a plea, based on what?

We've been asking the same goddamn questions for about five pages total now.

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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @ ProVallone, MrMephisto - notice they STILL wont
> answer why he'd bring a golf club to the Sev -
> see, that's just normal, everyday cheering up in
> their book LoLz anything at all

Fixed it for you.

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The plea is voluntary manslaughter cuz randy lied and can't be used as a witness. And the murderers name STEVEN SMITH was printed and reported in the Washington Post. We know you all are limited to your basements and idle gossip. You seem to think you are owed some sort of explanation. Wyatt's family and friends owe you nothing. As far as the smith family who cares. They spawned 2 murderers. They should be ashamed and embarrassed.

@Mr Mephisto - thanks for the fix, I did neglect that tiny little fact.............like how Randy "lied" and "can't be used as a witness", or why Wyatt choose to leave the house when he oh so wanted to stay home. Or was it a steel graphite shaft :)

@once again - if that's true, then he's gonna get 10 yrs max. And you know, a looooooooong time ago when I first started reading this thread (well, the other thread, I guess) I was like "He should get life" but since learning more abuot what happened that day, I guess 10 years is fair.

And if the Smith Family should be ashamed and embarrassed (I'm sure they are) then so should Wyatt's family because he didnt take that golf club to the Sev to "brighten somebody's day" no matter what y'all wanna tell me.

p.s. I dont think I am owed some sort of explanation...................unless a killing occurs. Then yes, I am owed an explanation. All I'm doing is giving YOU a chance to give me yours, is all.

who do you think you are that you are owed an explanation. you are not wyatt's family or friend, and I certainly do not owe YOU anything. it has not been proven, just assumed that the club belonged to and was used by wyatt. randy stated he didn't even see the club. you are so quick to judge a dead kid but give a pass to the two murderers. eventually steven will be back in your neighborhood, david already is. god have mercy on you if you think 10 years is fair in an ambush where a boy died of 15 stab wounds while the other 4 in the alley were not even slightly injured. wyatt's family has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. they know we are here for them and what wyatt's character was. and now everyone else knows the character of the smiths and their children. we hope wyatt's family gets peace and the smiths burn in hell

Notice nobody wants to bring up what's and 18 yr old man doing in the back of an alleyway with children anyways.........but I digress.

As I've stated before, I dont have to worry about David or Steven cause I never robbed from them, and dont intend to in my lifetime.

As for the golf club, nothing has been proven except for the witness testimony you just kinda want to ignore, or call a lie. But whatevers. Nobody wants to say where the golf club came from, but EVERYBODY and their mother claims they no the truth about all this, cause of course the truth will jinx the case somehow...............mmmmm hmmm.

10 years is fair for Voluntary Manslaughter. But that's not on me, that's on the Commonwealth http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-10.HTM so dont go getting all butthurt on me. Go to Richmond if you dont like it.

nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey GOODBYE!

I love that word - manslaughter.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

@pinhead - it does have such a gritty feel to it, doesnt it

I'm betting the manslaughter charge (if it's true) will have more to do with the truth about the golf club, the both sides agreeing to meet up later, and initial reasons why this fight occurred more than what Randy said

don't blame wyatt's murder on his parents and his choice's!
yes, he could've walked away, but with bloodthirsty teenage idiots like steven and david, do you think that would've been the end of it? they would've found him again and again and harassed him.

steven smith had more choices than anyone. the choice to leave wyatt alone, the choice to not bring a weapon with the intent to kill, the choice to not fatally injure wyatt, the choice to not keep stabbing until wyatt was dead. he stabbed wyatt and he didn't stop until he was sure he had killed him. he had the choice not to kill wyatt. he had the choice to just ignore wyatt.

how dare you try to act like wyatt brought it upon himself. just because he pissed off that stupid brat who didn't know how to handle himself?

how about next time you cut someone off on the road because you're rushing to work and they follow you and stab you 12 times and you die we make a forum. and we defend the guy who stabs you because, hey, you were choosing to lead a high-stress lifestyle which lead to aggressive driving and your death.

and a 1, and a 2.................


wtfbrettsmith Wrote:
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> don't blame wyatt's murder on his parents and his
> choice's!
> yes, he could've walked away, but with
> bloodthirsty teenage idiots like steven and david,
> do you think that would've been the end of it?
> they would've found him again and again and
> harassed him.

well, that's what these nifty ppl called COPS are there for. Or better yet, Wyatt could have simply not have robbed the kid in the first place. Let's review, shall we?

The defendant's brother accused Campbell of robbing the defendant. This is similar to the newly-released statement of the first witness, who said he was in the 7-Eleven parking lot around 10:20 p.m. The witness said he saw a white teenage male with dark hair and a thin mustache start to leave the store in his car, then return and park next to a Toyota.

The witness said the teen began yelling at the Toyota's two occupants through the car's sun roof.

"[The witness] heard the teenager who approached the Toyota yell, 'Were you the one who robbed my (either friend or brother) a month ago?'", the account of the witness's statement to police reads. The witness then entered the store and did not see anything further.

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A third witness's statement concerns the incident months before that allegedly precipitated the encounter between Campbell and the defendant's brother in the 7-Eleven parking lot. A friend of the defendant told police that he, the defendant, and another man were walking on Franconia Road between June 19, 2010 and July 4, 2010.

According to the witness's statement, Campbell appeared with two other white males. Campbell's companions pushed the defendant, the witness, and the other man into a fence, saying they were with the Fairfax County Police Department. Campbell and his companions then asked if the witness and his friends had marijuana, according to the witness's statement.

The witness said Campbell and his companions took iPods and cell phones from the defendant and his friend, but nothing from the witness.


http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/witness-statements-shed-new-light-on-rose-hill-teens-death





>
> steven smith had more choices than anyone. the
> choice to leave wyatt alone, the choice to not
> bring a weapon with the intent to kill, the choice
> to not fatally injure wyatt, the choice to not
> keep stabbing until wyatt was dead. he stabbed
> wyatt and he didn't stop until he was sure he had
> killed him. he had the choice not to kill wyatt.
> he had the choice to just ignore wyatt.

Yes, yes we all know this. That is why Steven Smith is going to jail for a time. This is why you really dont see us talking about that. We here all know that "jail is bad, mmm-k?"


>
> how dare you try to act like wyatt brought it upon
> himself. just because he pissed off that stupid
> brat who didn't know how to handle himself?

You yourself just said "yes, he could've walked away" no more than 2-3 sentences ago so yeah, Wyatt kind of had a part in it all (also read above witness statements again). And why would a a man "who could brighten anybody's day" have a hand in pissing off a kid who doesnt know how to handle himself? That's odd in and of itself (and y'know, robbing child will piss them off - and really, is a little sad as well...............)

>
> how about next time you cut someone off on the
> road because you're rushing to work and they
> follow you and stab you 12 times and you die we
> make a forum. and we defend the guy who stabs you
> because, hey, you were choosing to lead a
> high-stress lifestyle which lead to aggressive
> driving and your death.

um, your theory would fly ONLY if the stabber and I had agreed to meet up later to fight it out after the initial accident. And only if you are ignorant enough to equate someone cutting you off in traffic the same as someone stopping you in the street and STEALING YOUR PERSONAL BELONGINGS! Most normal people can differentiate between the two.

your theory sucks because Wyatt DID NOT ROB Steven Smith, that was his justification AFTER he was caught after he MURDERED Wyatt. If you really, really, really, really concentrate on each word asshole, you will see that the witness (who can't testify to anything, by the way), did not see Wyatt in the car, nor was that what David Smith said to Randy(per randy's testimony, read the court record). I know how badly you want to be right, we all kind of sympathize and pity you, but you are very, very WRONG. Find another thread, troll, and bother them. You are so incredibly ignorant, every word you type shows your lack of knowledge and your inherent lack of intelligence. Steven Smith's actions do equate to road rage, he played judge and jury and executioner without the benefit of facts. IT WAS NOT WYATT WHO ROBBED HIM. Like Steven Smith, you need to get your facts straight. One of the ironic things about this whole tragedy is that the 3 men who did rob him are still in the area, and are still walking the streets free, kind of like the murderer's brother. Don't forget to look over your shoulder Gordo

Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen!!


fuck you gordo Wrote:
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> your theory sucks because Wyatt DID NOT ROB Steven
> Smith, that was his justification AFTER he was
> caught after he MURDERED Wyatt.

yes, yes, we know. Eyewitness testimony doesnt count, I've heard this from you before. They are all total liarheads and only yr opinion counts. Gotcha.


If you really,
> really, really, really concentrate on each word
> asshole, you will see that the witness (who can't
> testify to anything, by the way), did not see
> Wyatt in the car, nor was that what David Smith
> said to Randy(per randy's testimony, read the
> court record).

Oh? I thought Randy was a big ole' liar? Now you are turning to his testimony for truth? Wow, must be hard to walk on both sides of the street like that LoLz


I know how badly you want to be
> right, we all kind of sympathize and pity you, but
> you are very, very WRONG. Find another thread,
> troll, and bother them. You are so incredibly
> ignorant, every word you type shows your lack of
> knowledge and your inherent lack of intelligence.

What's really funny is these arent "my words" at all - I'm just reporting what the two witnesses who saw stuff and had nothing to do with the crime said about it.


> Steven Smith's actions do equate to road rage, he
> played judge and jury and executioner without the
> benefit of facts. IT WAS NOT WYATT WHO ROBBED
> HIM. Like Steven Smith, you need to get your
> facts straight.

yeah, cause most ppl usually forget who in the neighborhood robbed them - is THAT what you want us to believe?


One of the ironic things about
> this whole tragedy is that the 3 men who did rob
> him are still in the area, and are still walking
> the streets free, kind of like the murderer's
> brother. Don't forget to look over your shoulder
> Gordo

Why look over my shoulder when I can just not rob ppl, eh?

wait for it.............
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Watch and see you pathetic loser. It is being plea bargained. The ONLY witness is randy and he is a liar. Research Brady, maybe then you will understand. But read s l o w l y to aid in your comprehension.

Wyatt DID NOT ROB Steven Smith, that was his justification AFTER he was caught after he MURDERED Wyatt.

Read the following:
More details on alleged robbery that precipitated encounter between defendant and Rose Hill teen Wyatt Campbell
March 15, 2011
A third witness's statement concerns the incident months before that allegedly precipitated the encounter between Campbell and the defendant's brother in the 7-Eleven parking lot. A friend of the defendant told police that he, the defendant, and another man were walking on Franconia Road between June 19, 2010 and July 4, 2010.
According to the witness's statement, Campbell appeared with two other white males. Campbell's companions pushed the defendant, the witness, and the other man into a fence, saying they were with the Fairfax County Police Department. Campbell and his companions then asked if the witness and his friends had marijuana, according to the witness's statement.
The witness said Campbell and his companions took iPods and cell phones from the defendant and his friend, but nothing from the witness.

No where does it say that the “defendant, Steven” made these statements after he was charged. The defendant is not the witness.
IT WAS NOT WYATT WHO ROBBED HIM.
The victim, Wyatt and his companions approached and stole from the "defendant and his companions", NOT the other way around.

From what I have heard, when the defendant was in 8th grade and was walking home from school, that the victim, Wyatt was seen pushing and harassing the defendant. The defendant kept trying to get away but to no avail. A county employee was driving by, saw and turned around at which time a girl with reddish hair was pulling the victim away. The employee stopped and asked the defendant if everything was okay.

I comprehend all I need to know - that robbing ppl is stupid cause they can come back and kill yr ass

also, dont agree to fight them later - it's a pretty stupid thing to do. Should just stay home.



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Gordon, You will never get it. For a TROLL you are a complete waste of internet space. You haven't offered anything useful to this thread but a couple of pics that you are now posting over and over again. But WTF it's your time.
Latter

@Bystander - and what's your definition of a "troll" anyways? Someone who simply doesnt agree with yr P.O.V.?

And yeah, I get it. Which is why I dont assault ppl nor fight behind 7-Elevens.

"Latter" LoLz

That's simple: Gordon = TROLL,
And it has nothing to do with anybodies point of veiw.





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yeah, that's a good definition for "anybodie"

LoLz

moving on, has anybody ever figured out why Wyatt had the golf club in the first place?

Bystander Wrote:
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> Gordon, You will never get it. For a TROLL you are
> a complete waste of internet space. You haven't
> offered anything useful to this thread but a
> couple of pics that you are now posting over and
> over again. But WTF it's your time.
> Latter

We are trying to figure out what happened by asking questions that absolutely nobody wants to answer. Your only contribution to this thread is to call us idiots.

"Latter."

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> We are trying to figure out what happened by
> asking questions that absolutely nobody wants to
> answer. Your only contribution to this thread is
> to call us idiots.
>
> "Latter."
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MrMephisto, I've wasted a lot of time pointing out some of the misinformation that keeps getting posted on this thread. If you read a post that I authored and called you an idiot please point it out to me and I'll edit it. I admit that I have posted statements about you, but can't beleive I called you an idiot.
Thanks

LATER MOTHER FUCKER

Bystander Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
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> > We are trying to figure out what happened by
> > asking questions that absolutely nobody wants
> to
> > answer. Your only contribution to this thread
> is
> > to call us idiots.
> >
> > "Latter."
> --------------------------------------------------
> ------
>
> MrMephisto, I've wasted a lot of time pointing out
> some of the misinformation that keeps getting
> posted on this thread. If you read a post that I
> authored and called you an idiot please point it
> out to me and I'll edit it. I admit that I have
> posted statements about you, but can't beleive I
> called you an idiot.
> Thanks
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well, you didnt have the guts to call him an idiot per se, you just played all asshole and did this:

Posted by: Bystander ()
Date: May 13, 2011 09:10PM

Mr.Mephisapsycho
I know that time and time again you have heard this from me and several other professionals, but please let your psychiatrist off the hook and check into the hospital at your earliest. One hour a week just isn't ever going to do the job. You need the full time help of a group of professionals to get you through your illness and on to the road to mental recovery.

So again I'm begging you to get off your computer, get out of your parents basement, and check yourself back into the instatution (sic) again.

If you need a helping hand, please feel free to call on me again.

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name calling, ad hominem, whatever you want to call it. Can't make a valid argument so you resort to just attacking the arguer personally.
The "misinformation" you talk about has been supported by actual witnesses. Yet when this "misinformation" is brought up and questions, the answer you and other Wyatt "supporters" say repeatedly is "blah blah lie, blah blah conspiracy theory" without any facts to bring it us. Then name calling when we ask serious questions about certain actions (i.e. why leave house, why golf club, reason for initial "stalking", etc.)
So yeah, if you well standing up for an alleged friend is a waste of time, then so be it. Just funny how Wyatt could give his life for his alleged friend and that's loyalty, but some of y'all cant give 4 seconds on an internet chat board for him. Some loyalty. LoLz

1. I wasn't directing that statement at you.
2. wyatt didn't rob steven.
3. get a girlfriend? you clearly don't have one if you have this much time to spend trolling the internet.

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> 1. I wasn't directing that statement at you.

It's an open discussion.

> 2. wyatt didn't rob steven.

So the only motive for the murder is the safe (or possibly two safes) that everyone says exists but nobody wants to talk about.

Of course, pre-meditated murder (such as planning to kill him to get to this mysterious safe) carries a much, much harsher penalty than involuntary manslaughter, but his totally smart and loyal friends aren't saying anything about it to anyone.

Yeah. You guys are real friends.

> 3. get a girlfriend? you clearly don't have one if
> you have this much time to spend trolling the
> internet.

Ah, the "no girlfriend" retort. Along with references to living in your parents' basement, it's one of the most used internet tropes when someone loses an argument and has been proven to be a complete and utter moron.

Where was the safe and why did they have to kill Wyatt to steal it?

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and what type of gold club was it, anyways? and how's all the all the destruction of property (graffiti) and leaving trash around supposed to honour his memory anyways?
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FORMER MOTHER FUCKER

Gordon you are a TROLL,
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll=Gordon_Blvd

You haven't added anything productive or new to this thread except a pic here and there.
You keep asking the same questions that can't be answered while a trial is still on the books, If you were really interested in the facts you would have already gone out in search for those answers on your own away from this forum. You have not stopped asking after being told because you are just a troll. Plain and simple. Get a life.






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By the way Bystander is just a user name on a forum.





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