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BisonBrawl Wrote:
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> West Springfield??
>
> They beat who last year???
>
> West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a losing
> one taking over for another losing one....
>
> Annandale??? they just swim against a current of
> dissolving talent in their community and I think
> drowned years ago
>
> Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired
> coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3
> other players in a game that requires 22.
>
> TC Williams??? They were on their fired coaches
> last run and boy were they awful
>
> Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and
> will continue to amuse
>
> W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who couldn't
> make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc??
> what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out
> either...
>
> Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state
> circle?? please....
>
> Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to
> their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid who
> had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU
> recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh
> yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was in
> 10th grade.
>
> and last I checked LB won the one that
> mattered....
>
> so if beating all the bad teams you play and
> losing to all the good teams you play is a great
> season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?
This post makes no sense and is full of lies and maliciousness. Didn't WS beat W-L in the playoffs? Half the teams you mention are actually good teams and most of them, with the exception of Edison, Woodson, Lee, TC, and Annandale have made the playoffs most of the last five years or so. And even though the cards are stacked against Annandale, after its middle class neighborhoods and athletes were redistricted to Lake Braddock and Woodson, the school will hopefully build on last year's success. I predict a respectable 8-3 season for the Atoms with a playoff appearance.
have some guuuuts Wrote:
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> BisonBrawl Wrote:
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> -----
> > West Springfield??
> >
> > They beat who last year???
> >
> > West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a
> losing
> > one taking over for another losing one....
> >
> > Annandale??? they just swim against a current
> of
> > dissolving talent in their community and I
> think
> > drowned years ago
> >
> > Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired
> > coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3
> > other players in a game that requires 22.
> >
> > TC Williams??? They were on their fired
> coaches
> > last run and boy were they awful
> >
> > Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and
> > will continue to amuse
> >
> > W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who
> couldn't
> > make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc??
>
> > what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out
> > either...
> >
> > Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state
> > circle?? please....
> >
> > Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to
> > their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid
> who
> > had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU
> > recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh
> > yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was
> in
> > 10th grade.
> >
> > and last I checked LB won the one that
> > mattered....
> >
> > so if beating all the bad teams you play and
> > losing to all the good teams you play is a
> great
> > season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?
>
>
> This post makes no sense and is full of lies and
> maliciousness. Didn't WS beat W-L in the playoffs?
> Half the teams you mention are actually good teams
> and most of them, with the exception of Edison,
> Woodson, Lee, TC, and Annandale have made the
> playoffs most of the last five years or so. And
> even though the cards are stacked against
> Annandale, after its middle class neighborhoods
> and athletes were redistricted to Lake Braddock
> and Woodson, the school will hopefully build on
> last year's success. I predict a respectable 8-3
> season for the Atoms with a playoff appearance.
Not a chance, unless they bring that running back for a 5th year.
Not sure whether you are trying to insult SC, or insult girls - but regardless, that pic is of a cheerleader in an away jersey
All bark no bite Wrote:
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> SC returning senior RB #22 Michele Williams is
> comforted by her o line after they lost in the
> playoffs last year.
westfield is a lock Wrote:
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> Westfield will go to the state championship this
> year, count on it
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o.k., there you have it. Westfield is the winner so lets just cancel the season and give them the trophy.
When will these morons learn their lesson that nothing is guaranteed.? Every tear, the same retards predict the future and are invariably wrong.
Sadly, I came 20 minutes late to the scrimmage. I was there for an 1 hour & ½ for the scrimmage.
Lake Braddock dominated the scrimmage (put up at least 4-5 touchdowns within the hour & ½ when I was there). Their running back is legit. Scored a couple of long TD runs on Hayfield's defense. Also, LB’s receiving core got TD’s as well (a few long TD passes). From what I’ve read, Lake Braddock returns most of the starters on offense and defense (at least 15 starters returned from last year, IIRC). I was more impressed with LB’s offense than their defense in this scrimmage (although, defensively they’ll be just fine). A saw some big hits from LB’s defense.
Hayfield did not get a TD at all from time period I was there (they may have gotten 1 or 2 TD’s before my arrival, possibly).
Offensively, Hayfield lost a lot of their talented playmakers (including their speedy QB, 2 all region WR’s) from last year. Also, their top RB was sitting out of the scrimmage. I guess that could be a reason for their offense not being that crisp like previous seasons. Although, Hayfield was able to get some long runs (especially from their QB) and receptions. Their QB definitely has potential (dual threat type). Conversely (compared to LB) I was more impressed with Hayfield’s defense (they were able to make some good stops) than their offense. I believe Hayfield returned a lot of the defensive starters from last year (at least 7-8 guys are returning from their defensive squad).
Don't listen to the guy just above I am the real Glizzy and I can prove it....I really was not at the scrimmage, I just like to dream about being at high school football scrimmages, in fact I sit at me desk all the day all year round thinking about how much fun it would be to go to a high school scrimmage.....
In fact my friends are setting up a Go Fund Me site so they can raise transportation money for me to actually fulfill my dream and really go to a high school football scrimmage one day. Will you help me?
Westfield does seem to be the pre-season media favorite to represent 6A North this year. But I don’t see any reason to believe anything will be different this season than the last four. They need to replace practically the entire offense and unless someone emerges they aren’t going to put up points like they did last year.
Sure they’ll be good and win a playoff game or two but I don’t see them getting past Lake Braddock/South County/Centreville this season.
I think Centreville is #1 in 6A North until someone unseats them. I mean c’mon - who on their schedule is going to beat them?
Annandale – easy win
Fairfax - easy win
Broad Run – tough game but a win
Tuscarora – win - tough game but Tuscarora is overrated this year
Lake Braddock – win – does anyone really think Braddock will beat Centreville?
Herndon - easy win
Oakton – easy win
Westfield - maybe a loss - only toss-up game on their schedule
Chantilly - easy win
Robinson – easy win - Robinson also overrated this year
So I look for 9-1 or 8-2 season if someone pulls an unlikely upset.
Braddock destroyed Hay last night.They didn't have the JV team there only 33 players total. 4 players played the whole game. Not a fan of Braddock but they are the real deal, 1/2 of single wing and a 1/2 of empty spread. Poytress will F this up. O of the week.
Westfield does seem to be the pre-season media favorite to represent 6A North this year. But I don’t see any reason to believe anything will be different this season than the last four. They need to replace practically the entire offense and unless someone emerges they aren’t going to put up points like they did last year.
Sure they’ll be good and win a playoff game or two but I don’t see them getting past Lake Braddock/South County/Centreville this season.
I think Centreville is #1 in 6A North until someone unseats them. I mean c’mon - who on their schedule is going to beat them?
Annandale – easy win
Fairfax - easy win
Broad Run – tough game but a win
Tuscarora – win - tough game but Tuscarora is overrated this year
Lake Braddock – win – does anyone really think Braddock will beat Centreville?
Herndon - easy win
Oakton – easy win
Westfield - maybe a loss - only toss-up game on their schedule
Chantilly - easy win
Robinson – easy win - Robinson also overrated this year
So I look for 9-1 or 8-2 season if someone pulls an unlikely upset.
To answer your question Westfield had to replace the majority of the offense going into last season. They had on offense the QB, one OL, and the RB even though he played FB the year before.
This year they have two capable QB's, the biggest OL they've had in years, plenty of tall receivers, and a couple speedy/athletic RB's.
If you look the last 4 years or so there's been a different RB in the backfield with the same result.
Westfield's kicker is incredible, one of the top in the nation in his age group I believe.
Then there's the defense, 8 returning starters, and oh yeah, the majority of the special team guys are defensive players.
I also think you might be overlooking their schedule. Especially the Loudon County teams, they're not 6A but that's because that area is not as populated as Fairfax County yet.
I've also seen a trend in the Loudon County teams, they've got big boys each and every season.
Poythress is probably the biggest scumbag coach in northern VA. He is universally despised by his fellow coaches around the area for the crap he pulls both on and off the field.
Too bad, the guy knows his stuff. But his regularly displayed poor character is such a bad example to the student athletes that he should never be allowed to coach.
He sends all the wrong life messages to his players.
Just Sayin The Truth Wrote:
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> Poythress is probably the biggest scumbag coach in
> northern VA. He is universally despised by his
> fellow coaches around the area for the crap he
> pulls both on and off the field.
>
> Too bad, the guy knows his stuff. But his
> regularly displayed poor character is such a bad
> example to the student athletes that he should
> never be allowed to coach.
>
> He sends all the wrong life messages to his
> players.
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Like what? If you're going to attack someone's character, at least be man enough to back it up.
Stupid. He's a pretty respected coach - been there since 2004. Don't last that long without some respect. 86-40 record at LB. State runner-up in 2009 and won Redskins High School Coach of the Year award. He's a little quirky but who isn't. Isn't supposed to be a popularity contest anyway.
We love Coach P. 2 families moved into million dollar homes and you said he recruited. I guess he bought the homes. LB has zero apartments so recruiting is impossible. The guy took a terrible program and turned it into a regional power. 6 straight district titles speak for themselves.
Quirky ? Maybe but not scum. You must be mad he whipped you tail. You never hear Coach cry when he gets beat. maybe you are one of the coaches he let go. Ax to grind. Maybe you should introduce yourself instead of taking shots here. I got the old man beating most coaches in the region in a brawl. Who you going with?
He was up in a playoff game by 30 points and called time out with 3 seconds left in the game just to kick another field goal.
That's just plain BS that some states suspend a coach for doing.
I witnessed him during a summer 7v7 tournament, after being questioned by another head coach with respect to his players undercutting receivers, telling that NoVa Head Coach, "Grow a pair".
FG against what team? Complete fabrication. You are a real puss. P takes rich spoiled kids and gets them to play hard. Tell us what school you support "just saying". Probably a soft crew is my guess. Hide on the board. Who was this FG against???Who bitch?
You must be hating on the other "coach P" my friend, as in Cosch Panonni at South County. That man onside kicks vs 0-10 Mount Vernon every year and you say nothing on this thread cause he's never won anything. Pathetic.......and if you complain about 7v7 why don't you contact your sons DC and get them to stop a passing attack.
Poythress, Pannoni are both big zeros - nothing to show for anything.....only true regional powers in 6A are Centreville and Westfield (although Bdogs need to pick things back up after the last few years of always losing in regional finals)
Woah. Let's look at the last 5 years of PLAYOFF results between the Centreville/Westfield vs. LB/SoCo/WS:
2011: Centreville 21 – Lake Braddock 18
2012: Westfield 49 – West Springfield 7
2013: Westfield 19 – Lake Braddock 16
2013: Centreville 55 – South County 35
2014: Westfield 42 – Lake Braddock 20
That's pretty decisive. What makes you think this year will be different?
Mr. Major College,
Where did you play? Where did your son play? How would you know what Coach P teaches? All fair questions. And, when was this FG you spoke about with LB up 30.
A major college baller wouldn't hide on the underground. You should talk to P face to face but you won't cause you are the one in a little bubble. IF you are the tough guy you claim to be where did you play? Oh, and last I checked all these major college guys cheat and run up the score.
Well, you conveniently started your time frame at a point where it leaves out Annandale's titles... and I believe Robinson was Patriot district in 1997... can't remember which year they switched. Before the Concorde, they were in the same district as LB, WS, Annandale, WP, TC, etc
Excellent. This is exactly the sort of wrangling I was hoping for.
My pre-season ranking of Concorde/Patriot
1. Centreville
2. Westfield
3. Lake Braddock
4. South County
5. West Springfield
6. Robinson
7. Chantilly
8. Oakton
9. West Potomac
10. Herndon
11. T.C. Williams
12. W.T. Woodson
13. Lee
There is no such thing as a district anymore. No Patriot District, no National District. Check out the VHSL web site. Lee is in the Capitol Conference, conference 13. Yes, most of the teams are from the old National District. Such as Edison, Falls Church, Stuart and Wakefield remain. Jefferson, Marshall and Lee are in Conf. 13. Mt. Vernon moves up to D6 this year and doesn't play a C 13 schedule.
Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of things. I will correct myself in that the VHSL web site still lists districts. But I don't know why. Lee, for example still shows in the Patriot District but is the only D5 team and only the total season really counts for them for getting into the playoffs. They could lose every game against their old Patriot District opponents, but still can get into the playoffs with a losing record (which they've done). It's called power points. So effectively the designation of District is useless.
I played at Fairfax in 1973 and played against Hardage and his boys Mike Lucido, Dick Adams, Dale Babione, etc. The stadium at Annandale HS is still one of my faves.
Behing that crazy man Coach Dick Claypool, we beat Annandale 12-0 on a very cold night in November on that field. Anyone who played in that game will never forget it.
Alababamas JV squad did what it was supposed to do. Last year it was 54 to zip.. It's still Centreville and Westfield in Northern Region until Soco and or Braddock nut up!
Yes DeMatha is Alabama JV squad but I saw some other weaknesses in Westfield. Offense not nearly dynamic as thought and who will play QB. Senior Scanlon more seasoned but sort of miscast as QB instead of WR, the junior kid (sorry do not know name) looks talented but perhaps not ready to take the reins. Defense will be solid but I don't think LB, SOCO, CVILLE, etc. should think at this point that Westfield has the Northern Region wrapped up. Think it will be a competitive year. Then whoever wins out will go to Charlottesville and get beat again by Ocean Lakes since they cheat - if you don't believe me just do a google search on Ocean Lakes football.
Westfield is doing what they have been experimenting with for the last few years, flirting with being a pass first team. On paper it looks great, reality Pearson (who didn't play) needs to line up behind a competent fullback and do what they do best, run between the tackles...which will open up the passing game...Scanlon looks the part, questionable if he is the guy at QB, Johnson a better athlete at QB but still raw. A lot of good film out of last night. Westfield will make the adjustments as they always do...and they won't see the same caliber of talent again this year unless they make it to Charlottesville and "cheating" Ocean Lakes!
So what about SOCO, LB, CVILLE, Others this year....why or why not will they beat out Westfield for the NR crown? Seems like a lot of uncertainty this year as compared to previous when it was clear who the best team was going in....just an outside perspective.
Oh Well Wrote:
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> VHSL has made a total mess of all sports. They
> have destroyed old rivalries and made a total
> mockery of basketball.
I agree, but at least the new Liberty Conference 6 is similar to the old Great Falls District, or whatever it was called back in the 80s and early 90s. With the exception of Hayfield all the schools are geographically close, about the same size, and former/current rivals.
Socorro has some talent, catching Westfield early could be the break they need...a lot of parity, including the Loudon County Schools...Briar Woods, Stone Bridge etc...will catch a few of the Div 6 schools...Centreville looked under sized, not as quick and no where near as deep at Linebacker as the last few years...Still the team to beat...Hylton clearly has not studied much film on the double wing, choosing to allow their athleticism to carry them it didn't work considering Ricky Slade didn't even Dress, LB will catch a few teams early with the spread however the better teams always make the adjustments...there might be a suprise or two...but it will still be the same cast of characters late in November
Robinson fumbled and turned the ball over at least 6 times which is not going to help if they are playing "playoff" caliber teams. They don't have the size and speed in the past for their run game. Will be a challenging year for the rams if they don't pull something out.
A Fan Wrote:
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> Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of things.
> I will correct myself in that the VHSL web site
> still lists districts. But I don't know why. Lee,
> for example still shows in the Patriot District
> but is the only D5 team and only the total season
> really counts for them for getting into the
> playoffs. They could lose every game against their
> old Patriot District opponents, but still can get
> into the playoffs with a losing record (which
> they've done). It's called power points. So
> effectively the designation of District is
> useless.
Districts still exist but the "Old Northern Region" got permission to schedule by conference instead. In other parts of the state conferences have no meaning in football.
football observer Wrote:
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> A Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of
> things.
> > I will correct myself in that the VHSL web
> site
> > still lists districts. But I don't know why.
> Lee,
> > for example still shows in the Patriot District
> > but is the only D5 team and only the total
> season
> > really counts for them for getting into the
> > playoffs. They could lose every game against
> their
> > old Patriot District opponents, but still can
> get
> > into the playoffs with a losing record (which
> > they've done). It's called power points. So
> > effectively the designation of District is
> > useless.
>
> Districts still exist but the "Old Northern
> Region" got permission to schedule by conference
> instead. In other parts of the state conferences
> have no meaning in football.
The districts still exist in the old Northern Region, but not with the same schools as before. DSA's/AD's wanted the conferences to align with the districts, i.e. the same schools. But Lee and Mount Vernon somehow got screwed. So Lee and Mount Vernon will not play all of their conference opponents in the regular season because they play different district opponents.
Also, as of this year high schools in the old Northern Region will only honor Conference champions. There will no longer be "district champions."
There is a pdf buried deep within the vhsl site that shows the districts and conferences for all high schools for the next two years.
Oh yes, that SOCO team, the one that has been a sure bet in its history always winning when it should and always taking trips to Charlottesville. I will bet the house on them all year long....
Soco gets a taste of Big boy Football right upfront....Briarwoods has size upfront... Top threat with their TE no one seems to be able to cover.. Should be a true test for both and then Soco gets on the Road the next week to face Westfields....0-2 will help put things in perspective for them and help them get focused to finish 7 & 1 and maybe actually win a playoff game or two... Your also giving Chantilly to much credit over WT... They win by 7 if they win..Osbourn keeps it Close with Hylton as we'll.