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High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nostradamusito ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:27PM

Early thoughts on the Fall 2015 season?

Steve K - please put your lines in this post too so it all stays together.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville Baby ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:48PM

Don't sleep on the Wildcats. Of course a big drop after this class graduates but still a lot of quality returnees. I see at least a 7 or 8 win season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO nation ()
Date: December 14, 2014 06:10PM

SOCO all the way oh yep

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Early picks for '15 ()
Date: December 14, 2014 07:28PM

6A North top 5
1) Westfield... Always very good
2) Robinson... Young football team in '14, could've had a few more wins if healthy
3) Lake Braddock... Another young team, brings back qb
4) Centreville... Tradition doesn't graduate
5) West Springfield... Returning qbs
Others
Madison... Played lots of juniors
South County... Lots of talent in the building
Patriot & Battlefield... Strong programs, don't know what's returning

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who does Westfield bring ()
Date: December 14, 2014 08:22PM

What is Westfield bringing back....Clancy the LB, maybe a lineman or two. But who will man the skill positions?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wildcats ()
Date: December 14, 2014 08:39PM

Cville Baby Wrote:
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> Don't sleep on the Wildcats. Of course a big drop
> after this class graduates but still a lot of
> quality returnees. I see at least a 7 or 8 win
> season.

I agree...but you know Kyle Richbourg is not going to play football next year. That will hurt. The prospective starting QB for 2015 decided not to play this year. However, 7 or 8 wins certainly attainable...but they also have changed up the schedule format for next year. I think the Concorde teams are playing a game against the Loudoun teams, and I think CV plays Tuscarora next year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wildcat questions ()
Date: December 14, 2014 09:06PM

Why is Richbourg not playing because of the Lacrosse. Who is the prospective QB for 2015 and do you mean he is not playing at all ever again or just took this year off?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NOVACoach ()
Date: December 14, 2014 09:31PM

CV's QB will be better next year. #7 is a dual threat kid. Not as big as Ferrick but can throw extremely well and he can use his feet to make things happen. Hopefully Haddock uses him correctly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF Football ()
Date: December 14, 2014 09:33PM

who does Westfield bring Wrote:
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> What is Westfield bringing back....Clancy the LB,
> maybe a lineman or two. But who will man the
> skill positions?

Looking at their roster I see Tyler Scanlon, Terrel Monticue, Jack Clancy, and Brian Delaney who will probably make the biggest difference next year. Also, if Pearson is back, that will be a huge help in their backfield.

Anyone know who their starting QB will be? Joey Free? Rehman Johnson?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 14, 2014 10:17PM

who does Westfield bring Wrote:
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> What is Westfield bringing back....

Pretty much no one on offense. But of their top 15 players on defense at the end of the year they had 7 seniors, 6 juniors and 2 sophomores getting all the playing time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: how about cville ()
Date: December 14, 2014 10:21PM

What does Centreville bring back?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cant wait ()
Date: December 15, 2014 10:33AM

Football season only nine months away...predictions?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: prediction ()
Date: December 15, 2014 11:16AM

my prediction is pain

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: December 15, 2014 11:27AM

I believe that the patriot conference will have better teams than concord just because LB/WS/SC are all returning a lot of starters while CVILLE/WFIELD graduate a lot of their star players/starters

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB Pride ()
Date: December 15, 2014 11:32AM

Doesn't South County lose quite a few players? I believe most of their D-Line and running backs were Seniors, which I thought was the strength of their team.

Also, I do believe that the Patriot schools should be much more competitive this year against the Concorde, but there was a large gap this season between us and them. To me it looks like their is no clear favorite.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville Fan ()
Date: December 15, 2014 11:36AM

Agree with the LB poster. I give LB and WS a bit of an edge as they are bringing back a number of good tested players. However, I think we are just going to have a free for all next year with actually a lot of good competition. No clear cut favorite as in the past few years. This stuff ebbs and flows....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cvilleplayer ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:09PM

Centreville will absolutely suck next year. The team has nobody left. Aside from a good O and D line they have no secondary and certainly no great to even mediocre RBs. Haddock might even jump ship.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C_VILLE ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:11PM

I agree saw the JV team earlier this season and they look godawful.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:17PM

More interesting than Conference 5 (Concorde) vs. Conference 7 (Patriot) is Loudoun County vs. Fairfax County 2015

Centreville vs: Tuscarora and Broad Run
Westfield vs: Briar Woods and Stone Bridge
Robinson vs: Stone Bridge and Broad Run
Oakton vs: Broad Run and Tuscarora
Chantilly vs: Briar Woods and Stone Bridge
Herndon vs: Tuscarora

South County vs: Briar Woods
Lee vs: Briar Woods
West Potomac vs: Briar Woods
Madison vs: Stone Bridge
McLean vs: Stone Bridge
Wakefield vs: Broad Run
Langley vs: Broad Run
Hayfield vs: Tuscarora
Edison vs: Tuscarora

I saw some speculation on the 2014 thread as to how many wins Fairfax will get in these 20 match-ups. Conference 14 also will be graduating a lot of talent...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Its going to blow ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:28PM

This whole area losing a lot of good talent, Wfield, Tuscy, CVille, SOCO, etc.

Think the entire area will be down next year. Current sophs and Juniors - ready to prove me wrong?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: it always comes back ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:36PM

don't be such a downer....new kids/talent always pop up

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like to be a downer ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:47PM

If you have low expectations no one gets upset if they are not met

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: December 15, 2014 06:30PM

>This whole area losing a lot of good talent, Wfield, Tuscy, CVille, SOCO, etc.

> Think the entire area will be down next year. Current sophs and Juniors - >ready to prove me wrong?


Can't speak for the area but I know over the past 14 seasons teams like Westfield have lost tons of talent each year and always seem to be more than competitive the next year. Their defense will return 6 true starters, Clancy, Leo, Aiello, Pickett, Huling, and Carron, but 4 other kids who played a tone this past year. That's not counting Martin or Wooden who played a ton the past two years and have started on numerous occasions. Then there's two sophomores who played a ton this year as well.

On offense they have one starting O-lineman returning, Ohanian, but coming into this past season all 5 starters were new. They have Monticue, Pearson, Johnson, and Scanlon at RB's and Wr's, they also have the option of Scanlon playing QB which he's as good at as he is receiver.

Westfield's defense will be there strength next year, anyone who watched the 6A North game can attest to that. The majority of the plays made were done so by underclassmen. Their LB Clancy was all over the field, the Gameday crew mentioned he and Love for Cville were showing how the LB position should be played.

Don't sleep on Cville either, yes they lose like 18 starters or something like that, hard to be exact since so many of their kids played both ways. Also hadn't heard that Richbourg wasn't playing next year, if he isn't that would definitely be a huge loss.

Really when you get down to it the same teams, Concorde, Patriot, etc. seem to be able to replenish their talent fairly well each year, some more than others. It will be interesting to see how it all shapes up but way too early to anoint anyone the team to beat.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FCPS Recruiting ()
Date: December 15, 2014 09:35PM

Cville Baby Wrote:
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> Don't sleep on the Wildcats. Of course a big drop
> after this class graduates but still a lot of
> quality returnees. I see at least a 7 or 8 win
> season.


It's pretty easy to remain successful when you just take Freedom's best players. I never get why so many ignore the blaintant recruiting.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: explain ()
Date: December 15, 2014 09:51PM

Explain previous comment about Freedom

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't Sleep on Soco ()
Date: December 16, 2014 09:22AM

Soco has some serious talent returning:

On Offense eight starters returning:

Three OL starters.
Two QB's (both started at some point.)
Two starting receivers.
RB Damarcus Ramsey, Mike Williams, and two younger guys that can play.

On Defense six starters returning:

One DL, (this will be their biggest loss.)
Both LB's (including Kevin Allen)
Three DB's.

Plus both kicker and punter are returning too.

So that is 16 starters returning next year, and they always have talent on the younger teams. Their JV team that went 6-1 last year, and was loaded with young talent. That is a JV class that was undefeated as Freshman. Look for Soco to be in the mix in 2015.

Also, this is a team that was right back in the weight room one week after the Battlefield loss. They will be ready to roll next season!!

Go Stallions!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ross ()
Date: December 16, 2014 11:10AM

Yes, please explain. Based upon the very good football rec. teams from the Freedom area year after year for a number of years, it never made any sense why the Freedom V team really sucks year after year. It does not make any sense unless there is some validity that the better players are playing somewhere else outside of the Freedom boundary.

explain Wrote:
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> Explain previous comment about Freedom

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: December 17, 2014 11:19AM

>Yes, please explain. Based upon the very good football rec. teams from the >Freedom area year after year for a number of years, it never made any sense >why the Freedom V team really sucks year after year. It does not make any >sense unless there is some validity that the better players are playing >somewhere else outside of the Freedom boundary.

explain Wrote:
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> Explain previous comment about Freedom


I think the FCPS Recruiting was referring to a few players that either started playing for or were intended to play at Freedom. Not sure about Love at Centreville but Wiggins and Burns, played on the same varsity team at Freedom as freshman, I believe. Wiggins wound up at Centreville and Burns at Westfield, both now playing in college. I'm sure there are others but those come to mind since they're so recent, anyone know of others?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ocean Lakes is the model for BS ()
Date: December 17, 2014 12:12PM

Only about 14 of Ocean Lakes starting 22 started at Ocean Lakes as freshman. Beach area has rampant transfers and recruiting. CVille did great to take that team into overtime. Yes, Wiggins was a transfer but this year all 22 CVille starters played as Freshman at CVille. Can you imagine CVille with a few additional transfers added in like a Gibson or Clancy from Westfield, the Lake Braddock QB or AJ Alexander, etc. They would have been world beaters. The VHSL system is a joke....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: let me emphasize ()
Date: December 17, 2014 12:13PM

The VHSL is a fucking joke.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agree with you ()
Date: December 17, 2014 12:19PM

VHSL is a joke, bunch of old farts who don't want to clean things up

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 17, 2014 02:40PM

Can anyone tell me where to get information on schedules for next year? I see that some opponents are known already.

I'm curious because I have been hearing rumors that both Westfield and Centreville are on Fairfax's schedule next year. Westfield is a traditional opponent, but adding Centreville will make the schedule even tougher (unless it's the case that Centreville is rebuilding next year, as some above have indicated).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR ()
Date: December 17, 2014 02:47PM

The opponents have been released to Region DSAs and to the coaching staffs - not sure that they've technically been made public yet. Additionally, the week-by-week schedule has not been finalized yet - merely the list of opponents for each team. They haven't figured out home and away splits for the games either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 17, 2014 02:50PM

NR Wrote:
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> The opponents have been released to Region DSAs
> and to the coaching staffs - not sure that they've
> technically been made public yet. Additionally,
> the week-by-week schedule has not been finalized
> yet - merely the list of opponents for each team.
> They haven't figured out home and away splits for
> the games either.

Thanks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: December 17, 2014 03:52PM

Not so fast Wrote:
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> >Yes, please explain. Based upon the very good
> football rec. teams from the >Freedom area year
> after year for a number of years, it never made
> any sense >why the Freedom V team really sucks
> year after year. It does not make any >sense
> unless there is some validity that the better
> players are playing >somewhere else outside of the
> Freedom boundary.
>
> explain Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Explain previous comment about Freedom
>
>
> I think the FCPS Recruiting was referring to a few
> players that either started playing for or were
> intended to play at Freedom. Not sure about Love
> at Centreville but Wiggins and Burns, played on
> the same varsity team at Freedom as freshman, I
> believe. Wiggins wound up at Centreville and Burns
> at Westfield, both now playing in college. I'm
> sure there are others but those come to mind since
> they're so recent, anyone know of others?

http://www.freedomeagles.org/index.cfm?action=main.teamroster&ID=31018&seasonid=42409

Wiggins and Burns both on the Freedom-SR 2011 roster as Sophomores. But yeah, other than those two I am not aware of any others. Sounds like an exaggeration.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Centreville Football 2015 ()
Date: December 17, 2014 03:53PM

Rebelman Wrote:
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> Can anyone tell me where to get information on
> schedules for next year? I see that some
> opponents are known already.
>
> I'm curious because I have been hearing rumors
> that both Westfield and Centreville are on
> Fairfax's schedule next year. Westfield is a
> traditional opponent, but adding Centreville will
> make the schedule even tougher (unless it's the
> case that Centreville is rebuilding next year, as
> some above have indicated).

Yeah Centreville is definitely rebuilding. It was a great run. I don't expect them doing anything until the current 7th - 8th graders at Liberty start playing varsity. I coach for SYA and that class has a lot of talent. So we're looking at another 2-3 years until Centreville is in the conversation again for a possible state title. But then again, they can surprise us all and dominate again next year...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hard to predict ()
Date: December 17, 2014 04:12PM

But isn't SYA a mix of kids that will go to Cville and Westfield how do you know the talented kids are the ones going to Cville

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thats right... ()
Date: December 17, 2014 04:21PM

Hard to predict Wrote:
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> But isn't SYA a mix of kids that will go to Cville
> and Westfield how do you know the talented kids
> are the ones going to Cville

you are absolutely right. i forgot about that....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 17, 2014 05:00PM

Centreville Football 2015 Wrote:
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> Rebelman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can anyone tell me where to get information on
> > schedules for next year? I see that some
> > opponents are known already.
> >
> > I'm curious because I have been hearing rumors
> > that both Westfield and Centreville are on
> > Fairfax's schedule next year. Westfield is a
> > traditional opponent, but adding Centreville
> will
> > make the schedule even tougher (unless it's the
> > case that Centreville is rebuilding next year,
> as
> > some above have indicated).
>
> Yeah Centreville is definitely rebuilding. It was
> a great run. I don't expect them doing anything
> until the current 7th - 8th graders at Liberty
> start playing varsity. I coach for SYA and that
> class has a lot of talent. So we're looking at
> another 2-3 years until Centreville is in the
> conversation again for a possible state title. But
> then again, they can surprise us all and dominate
> again next year...

Since I am a fan of Fairfax and Centreville is potentially on our schedule next year, I hope you are right about Centreville rebuilding. :) However, since these are kids we are talking about here, anything can happen. Fairfax's experience over the last three years bears this out. Three years ago, the Freshman team was undefeated (that's this year's seniors). Based on that, we thought we'd have a good season this year, but ended up 5-5. Two years ago, the freshman team didn't win any games. Last year's freshman team was 1-5-1. This year's JV team (which was comprised of players from both of those freshman teams) ended up 5-3. Those five wins included a 62-0 win over McLean, and a 13-6 win over Stonebridge (a school that Fairfax never beats). Anything can happen. Those kids might surprise you. .

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: djnvcms ()
Date: December 17, 2014 05:54PM

Rebelman lets be real, that jv team was compromised of mostly juniors. The real question was how many juniors were starting varsity for Stone Bridge and Mclean and compare them to the starters returning for Fairfax. Just a couple thoughts really...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WarhawkBoy ()
Date: December 17, 2014 05:56PM

Madison is returning their entire O-Line, QB, and two receivers however, young defense with a few starters returning. Not saying they'll be good but won't be like Madison that went 1-9 for sure.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 18, 2014 01:00AM

djnvcms Wrote:
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> Rebelman lets be real, that jv team was
> compromised of mostly juniors. The real question
> was how many juniors were starting varsity for
> Stone Bridge and Mclean and compare them to the
> starters returning for Fairfax. Just a couple
> thoughts really...


I'm not sure I follow the point you are making. I was simply telling Centreville that just because their Freshman and Sophomores don't have success as freshman or sophomores, doesn't mean they can't improve and be part of a successful team in their junior and senior years. By the way, according to a JV roster printed from one of Fairfax's JV games, the roster is about 50% juniors and about 50% sophomores, from a total roster of 52 players. Almost 1/2 of the starting offense on that team were sophomores.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I'm Just Sayin ()
Date: December 18, 2014 08:33AM

You have gotta to be pretty bad to be a junior playing JV. Especially at school with Freshman and sophomores starting on varsity. I'm not saying, just sayin!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: withdrawal baby ()
Date: December 19, 2014 12:18AM

missing high school football already

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CoachPlatt ()
Date: December 19, 2014 11:29AM

No coaching changes? Do they usually make changes after Christmas?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: northern region fan ()
Date: January 02, 2015 11:59AM

who will be good next fall?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: first change ()
Date: January 07, 2015 10:39AM

Lee football job is now open.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Quiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ()
Date: January 16, 2015 10:49AM

Why are the boards so quiet?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: January ()
Date: January 16, 2015 11:52AM

Quiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Wrote:
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> Why are the boards so quiet?


Because it's January and football doesn't start until August. Come back in June/July

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: reasonibet ()
Date: January 17, 2015 05:30PM

becasue the internet is boring and repetitive. Hope you had fun reading the same back and forth dribble a million times. it's over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sterasn ()
Date: January 18, 2015 11:25AM

Annandale: mediocre
Lee: bad
West Springfield: alright/decent
SOCO: Good, will compete
LB: Good aswell
Woodson: potential to be alright
Hayfield: mediocre, will do alright in new district
Washignton lee: meh
Mount Vernon: Bad
TC: Not any better
Robo: Lost a lot of seniors decent
Centreville: good, won't be as good as past two years
Westfield: good, matched evenly with cville
Oakton: Lost Allely bad
Chantilly: Decent rebuilding
Madison: lots of jrs will improve decent
Langley: mediocre, lost West very lost without him
South Lakes: might be the worst
Marshall: could improve young team
Fairfax: no clue could range from anywhere
Mclean: young team but clueless swell
Herndon: poor herndon at their conference doesn't look pretty
West Potomac: decent to mediocre
Edison: Most likely not good
TJ: might be the worst but they try at least
Yorktown: alright
Stuart:not bright
Falls Chruch: clueless

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: January 22, 2015 01:24PM

sterasn Wrote:
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> Annandale: mediocre
> Lee: bad
> West Springfield: alright/decent
> SOCO: Good, will compete
> LB: Good aswell
> Woodson: potential to be alright
> Hayfield: mediocre, will do alright in new
> district
> Washignton lee: meh
> Mount Vernon: Bad
> TC: Not any better
> Robo: Lost a lot of seniors decent
> Centreville: good, won't be as good as past two
> years
> Westfield: good, matched evenly with cville
> Oakton: Lost Allely bad
> Chantilly: Decent rebuilding
> Madison: lots of jrs will improve decent
> Langley: mediocre, lost West very lost without
> him
> South Lakes: might be the worst
> Marshall: could improve young team
> Fairfax: no clue could range from anywhere
> Mclean: young team but clueless swell
> Herndon: poor herndon at their conference doesn't
> look pretty
> West Potomac: decent to mediocre
> Edison: Most likely not good
> TJ: might be the worst but they try at least
> Yorktown: alright
> Stuart:not bright
> Falls Chruch: clueless

Nice effort on this list, though it's too early to say who will be good and who won't. Still, it's fun to speculate.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6A North Pre Season Rankings ()
Date: January 23, 2015 04:31PM

Rank School
1 Westfield
2 Lake Braddock
3 Centreville
4 South County
5 Battlefield
6 West Springfield
7 Hayfield
8 Patriot
9 James Robinson
10 Yorktown
11 Annandale
12 Chantilly
13 Oakton
14 Washington-Lee
15 West Potomac
16 James Madison
17 Langley
18 Stonewall Jackson
19 Herndon
20 Fairfax
21 McLean
22 W.T. Woodson
23 Osbourn
24 T.C. Williams
25 South Lakes
26 Osbourn Park

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OscarLakes ()
Date: January 24, 2015 03:41PM

6A North Pre Season Rankings Wrote:
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> Rank School
> 1 Westfield - 14 5 star cooks to make a 3 star burrito
> 2 Lake Braddock - Will only go as far as fear allows
> 3 Centreville - 3 might be the number of games they win
> 4 South County - Will go really fast, if they are any good is debatable
> 5 Battlefield - New coach will screw this up
> 6 West Springfield - greatest team in western springfield area, HANDS DOWN, and they know it.
> 7 Hayfield - another year beating up losers and losing verse winners
> 8 Patriot - who?
> 9 James Robinson - The James is to seperate them from when they were just ROBINSON and were a threat.
> 10 Yorktown - Washington and Lee West will be their usual ok self
> 11 Annandale - They will find a good player and make sure he's better than the team.
> 12 Chantilly - their only OPTION is mediocrity and that's how they like it.
> 13 Oakton - The only aggresive cougars will be the players moms.
> 14 Washington-Lee - Yorktown of the East will be their usual less than ok self.
> 15 West Potomac - They will get a few 80 yard td's here and there while going 3-7 or 4-6 if they get hot.
> 16 James Madison - 11 TE's will push mclean around but that's all.
> 17 Langley - Lake Braddock light will continue to wish they were as good as the expensive PED's they can afford make them feel.
> 18 Stonewall Jackson - sucks
> 19 Herndon - baby west potomac will beat up Edison again.
> 20 Fairfax - Will keep replacing unhappy coaches while the memory of nick scott fades.
> 21 McLean - fake QB's in a spread offense will always struggle.
> 22 W.T. Woodson - fake QB's in a spread offense will always struggle.
> 23 Osbourn - They will be a tiny bit better than TC
> 24 T.C. Williams - These guys would even lose to Osbourn
> 25 South Lakes - Tre Taylor and Mat Shannon will help will this team from finishing dead last.
> 26 Osbourn Park - Gunning for South Lakes will distract them from the 10 teams they actually play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: January 26, 2015 09:29AM

EDISON

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cats2015 ()
Date: January 26, 2015 10:32AM

Can anyone in the Concorde challenge Westfield/Centreville?? They've separated themselves from the other Concorde schools over the past 5-7 years.

Are South County and Lake Braddock legitimate contenders to win the region or are they still pretenders?

To me to region appears to be down a little bit for 2015.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: January 26, 2015 11:12AM

I also think the region is down this year. Westfield, Lake Braddock, then who knows. Soco, W. Springfield, maybe Hayfield? Don't see Cville doing much more then 7-3 or 6-4.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Edison ()
Date: January 26, 2015 12:52PM

Fan Wrote:
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> EDISON


Edison is 5a
Thee win 4 to 5 games this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Edison1 ()
Date: January 26, 2015 12:57PM

When was the last time Edison won 4 fucking games? When you beat Lee, Falls Church and Wakefield! After that, we can talk!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SC fav ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:01PM

nufan Wrote:
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> I also think the region is down this year.
> Westfield, Lake Braddock, then who knows. Soco,
> W. Springfield, maybe Hayfield? Don't see Cville
> doing much more then 7-3 or 6-4.

Cville pussy cats licking their wounds after big loss
And get 9 wins
6A north runs thru SC this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Edison ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:04PM

Edison won 4 in 2011 and 5 in 2012

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LBFan ()
Date: January 26, 2015 05:12PM

SC needs to learn how to get out of their own way before they can be taken seriously. Both players and coaches seem to get too emotional against the upper echelon teams.
Until someone proves otherwise I'd put my money on the best teams in the Concorde winning the region. I think that Westfield has the most returning, but centreville is rolling and Robinson was young last year.... Should be fun to watch!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football ()
Date: February 09, 2015 09:19AM

The Patriot Conference will be on top this year for sure. Lake Braddock, West Springfield and Southy County will all have very strong programs this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Woody ()
Date: February 09, 2015 09:51AM

Will this hurt Woodson much in the playoffs?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Deflated balls ()
Date: February 10, 2015 03:26PM

The patriot conf will have to get thru Westfield
They have better athletes and coaching

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VwN9N ()
Date: February 10, 2015 05:41PM

Woody Wrote:
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> Will this hurt Woodson much in the playoffs?


Woodson doesn't go to playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Woody Woodson ()
Date: February 10, 2015 06:26PM

They have a new RB from stone bridge that will help them win some games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fourlegs ()
Date: February 10, 2015 07:09PM

Woody Woodson Wrote:
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> They have a new RB from stone bridge that will
> help them win some games.

What the fuck? You can transfer like that? Who told you this?

___________________________________________________________
“Imitation is suicide.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: February 10, 2015 07:18PM

I hate to break it to you but... if you live in the boundaries of a public school district you can attend there. There is nothing available to stop parents moving if that's what they want to do.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fourlegs ()
Date: February 10, 2015 08:39PM

Ahh, that's right, was he recruited by the head coach?

___________________________________________________________
“Imitation is suicide.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SC ()
Date: February 10, 2015 09:04PM

I hate to break it to you but SC will break his legs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dale ()
Date: February 19, 2015 03:00AM

Annandale will be playing TC, WS, WPOT, LB, WTW, SC, MOUNT VERNON (new to patriot next year), Stuart, TJ, and.... Cville

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dale ()
Date: February 19, 2015 03:01AM

No matter how hard Woodson tries... They'll still be god awful... (73-56!)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 2015 Schedule ()
Date: February 19, 2015 03:09PM

Does anyone know where one can find the schedules for this coming season (if created) or at least who the teams play? Thanks!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: February 20, 2015 12:52PM

2015 Schedule Wrote:
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> Does anyone know where one can find the schedules
> for this coming season (if created) or at least
> who the teams play? Thanks!

I'm not sure where you can find every schedule (perhaps they are buried deep within the VHSL website somewhere). However, I do know that some schools have already posted their 2015 football schedule. That tells me that all schedules have been created. If you have a favorite team, check their website first.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who does ()
Date: February 20, 2015 08:33PM

Who has soco's schedule or who they play

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Soco sucks ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:09AM

Maybe this year soco will play a real schedule- their weak schedule last year hurt them when hey had to play real teams (lb and battlefield). They won't win more than 4 games next year. Small and still undisciplined!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wildcat80 ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:18PM

Soco's out of conference schedule is Briar Woods, Westfield and Hayfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bud Hoal... ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:42PM

Hold on just one fucking minute. If students in Fairfax County can't go to school because it is apparently too fucking cold outside, why are they expected to be exposed to the trauma and rigor of a contact sport like football?! Seriously, you want them to slam into each other, but your protest when they have to walk 20 minutes to school in 5 degrees or wait at the bus stop? FUCK YOU! You are creating a nation of soft, entitled, little pussies whose sole action is to whine and cower when faced with the adverse and unexpected. FUCK YOU TWICE FOR BETRAYING YOUR CHILDREN!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: jummyCrackCorn ()
Date: February 22, 2015 06:09PM

What schools lost coaches and who has replaced them??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not sure but ()
Date: February 22, 2015 09:37PM

I think the only open job in Fx Co is Lee. Paul VI is open but I wouldn't anticipate any current fcps head coaches filling that. Is the TC job open?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PV GUY ()
Date: February 22, 2015 10:38PM

not sure but Wrote:
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> I think the only open job in Fx Co is Lee. Paul VI
> is open but I wouldn't anticipate any current fcps
> head coaches filling that. Is the TC job open?

It's a shame what has happened to football at PVI. This year, there were only 40 boys out for football, and for the first time in many years, they couldn't have a freshman team.

Even so, with the right coach and administrator support, PVI football can be good again, once they move out to Loudon. They should get some nice facilities with that move, and that move should put them near some good football talent. Unfortunately for their program, that move is about 5 years away. If I were a coach, I wouldn't want that job now, but I might want it in five years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bigBoobies ()
Date: February 23, 2015 05:44PM

HUH?
The Lee job opened months ago. They don't have a coach??
Who is applying? Randolph from TC???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EHS Football ()
Date: March 03, 2015 12:31PM

Edison coach is out, after just one year?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: greatadvice ()
Date: March 05, 2015 10:25AM

LoL
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ramses ()
Date: March 06, 2015 06:13PM

To see that message one would have to already be following him on titter proving they don't know what AP even stands for. Who was this teet intended for?

Also... underage kids are teeting with adults paid with tax money? This all will end badly.

What next is he going to put pictures of him burning AP study guides on instantaneous-grams?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizene ()
Date: March 06, 2015 06:28PM

Hayfield coach is next...looking for replacement before making announcement.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Edisonite ()
Date: March 07, 2015 10:34AM

Wondering what's going on with the coach situation at Edison? What actually happened? Are they interviewing? Is Edison football ever gonna make a comeback?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hulk ()
Date: March 07, 2015 10:35AM

newgatedenizene Wrote:
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> Hayfield coach is next...looking for replacement
> before making announcement.


True or rumor?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: March 07, 2015 12:45PM

Hulk Wrote:
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> newgatedenizene Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hayfield coach is next...looking for
> replacement
> > before making announcement.
>
>
> True or rumor?

Unlikely.
https://twitter.com/evhenderson

BTW, Pannoni twitter:
https://twitter.com/gpannoni

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: It's a great day ()
Date: March 07, 2015 01:34PM

Hulk Wrote:
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> newgatedenizene Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hayfield coach is next...looking for
> replacement
> > before making announcement.
>
>
> True or rumor?

No way is this true. If it was they wouldn't have to look far. Coach Murray has in previous years applied for head coach positions. He'd be a great head coach there. Of course their goofy activities director would be too stupid to recognize him.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Player ()
Date: March 07, 2015 04:10PM

Edisonite Wrote:
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> Wondering what's going on with the coach situation
> at Edison? What actually happened? Are they
> interviewing? Is Edison football ever gonna make a
> comeback?


School rumor is one of the coaching staff is moving up into the head position.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ehs88 ()
Date: March 07, 2015 05:39PM

Hogan or Powell is the word on the street

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: March 08, 2015 10:20AM

I don't think any current coach would want this job. There's Lewis from Stafford who may go after it but I think he turned it down last year. Hogan isn't a teacher so I think Powell will get it by default.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Onee ()
Date: March 08, 2015 12:57PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> I don't think any current coach would want this
> job. There's Lewis from Stafford who may go after
> it but I think he turned it down last year. Hogan
> isn't a teacher so I think Powell will get it by
> default.

I believe Coach Cliatt would be a good candidate.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Schedules ()
Date: March 11, 2015 06:38AM

Does anyone know where the 2015 season schedules are posted- thanks

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FootballWatcher ()
Date: March 11, 2015 08:56AM

Same place they are posted every season - http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football

But VHSL has not posted them yet, even though the schools have them!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sports ()
Date: March 11, 2015 09:35AM

Brian Day named head coach at Riverside HS in Loudon.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: March 13, 2015 10:06AM

FootballWatcher Wrote:
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> Same place they are posted every season -
> http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football
>
> But VHSL has not posted them yet, even though the
> schools have them!


All the schedules have been made, and some of the schools have already posted theirs. Fairfax's 2015 schedule (varsity only) is already posted. A few of Fairfax's opponents have also posted their schedules as well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WHSgrad ()
Date: March 13, 2015 10:29AM

Is this the same Brian Day that won 2 games in 2 seasons at Herndon?

Heard a wild story about him years ago getting so drunk he walked into a residence where he was unknown and passed out on their couch!!!??? Wonder if there is any validity to that rumor?

Great pick for Riverside!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: forumnewbie ()
Date: March 13, 2015 10:35AM

Where the heck is Riverside? Never heard of that HS... Are we talking NOVA?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VAcoach ()
Date: March 18, 2015 08:49AM

riverside is a new school in loudon

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Questionable hire ()
Date: March 18, 2015 08:53AM

Battlefield hired the guy from freedom (south riding)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: math major ()
Date: March 21, 2015 08:08AM

so the latest 2 hires (Battlefield, Riverside) were a combined 4-36 at their previous schools? the applicant pool of qualified candidates must be pretty shallow.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rumor ()
Date: March 21, 2015 01:33PM

Riverside chose a drunk averaging one win a season over Broad Run coach who has averaged 9 wins a year over last 5 years.
No one can win at Freedom, so maybe that guy isn't as bad, but still, Battlefield job wasn't hotly contested? Excellent program.
Riverside? Brand new school in Loudoun. Had to have a lot of applicants. One problem with Riverside, however, is that the school is mostly Indian, dot, not the feathers.
Great debate team, horrible football pool for talent.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: March 24, 2015 11:37AM

Marc Matthie takes over at T.C. Williams.

Rumor is that Rick Rivera lands Lee

Edison is still open... Hearing a current assistant will be taking over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DanKnows ()
Date: March 24, 2015 02:39PM

WHSgrad Wrote:
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> Is this the same Brian Day that won 2 games in 2
> seasons at Herndon?
>
> Heard a wild story about him years ago getting so
> drunk he walked into a residence where he was
> unknown and passed out on their couch!!!???
> Wonder if there is any validity to that rumor?
>
> Great pick for Riverside!!!!!


Even if it isn't true, it's a great story!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: County Finances ()
Date: March 24, 2015 03:10PM

Just think of how much money could be saved by either eliminating high school football or making it pay for itself…or even throwing off a little extra for FCPS.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hmmmmm ()
Date: March 24, 2015 04:49PM

Rumor Wrote:
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> Riverside chose a drunk averaging one win a season
> over Broad Run coach who has averaged 9 wins a
> year over last 5 years.
> No one can win at Freedom, so maybe that guy isn't
> as bad, but still, Battlefield job wasn't hotly
> contested? Excellent program.
> Riverside? Brand new school in Loudoun. Had to
> have a lot of applicants. One problem with
> Riverside, however, is that the school is mostly
> Indian, dot, not the feathers.
> Great debate team, horrible football pool for
> talent.

So why would you think there would be a lot of applicants for a school with a horrible talent pool? You contradict your own post.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: novawatcher91 ()
Date: March 24, 2015 06:59PM

What happened to the guy at Edison? I thought they were going thru a rebuilding process with him.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Eagles4Life ()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:38AM

The word on the street is that a former assistant will take over, but keep in mind that only two of them are teachers (Powell, Laguna) with only one of them teaching for FCPS. Hogan and Cliatt would be great HC but their not teachers, Hopefully a decison will be made soon.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBWatcher ()
Date: March 25, 2015 10:02AM

County Finances Wrote:
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> Just think of how much money could be saved by
> either eliminating high school football or making
> it pay for itself…or even throwing off a little
> extra for FCPS.


Before you spout off, make sure you know what you are talking about. Football is the ONLY sport that is a money maker. The county only pays for transportation to away games, referees and field maintenance. The gate from the games more than covers these expenses and provides significant funding to every other sport. If you want to save money get rid of all the girls sports, everyone of them (except b-ball at a couple of schools) is huge money loser.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NRfan ()
Date: March 25, 2015 10:15AM

Matthie to TC is a great move for the school and the Northern Region as a whole. He will do well there and the kids will benefit from it.

This will hurt Centreville considering they already lost another defensive coach at the end of last season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NRFAN2 ()
Date: March 25, 2015 10:35AM

Eric Killson, former West PO assistant is the HC at Lee.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Novacoach ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:04AM

I like Matthie to TC. What kind of staff will he take over there? Is he taking Centreville guys?

Pilson to Lee is another good move. We need more young coaches out there so this ole' good boy network can ride off into the sunlight.

Edison is the last one remaining! What other candidates are available? Everrete from Westfield? he has ties to that area. How about a coordinator from hayfield, Lake braddock, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Novacoach ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:04AM

I like Matthie to TC. What kind of staff will he take over there? Is he taking Centreville guys?

Pilson to Lee is another good move. We need more young coaches out there so this ole' good boy network can ride off into the sunlight.

Edison is the last one remaining! What other candidates are available? Everrete from Westfield? he has ties to that area. How about a coordinator from hayfield, Lake braddock, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: get rid of them all ()
Date: March 25, 2015 11:53AM

FBWatcher Wrote:
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> County Finances Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just think of how much money could be saved by
> > either eliminating high school football or
> making
> > it pay for itself…or even throwing off a
> little
> > extra for FCPS.
>
>
> Before you spout off, make sure you know what you
> are talking about. Football is the ONLY sport
> that is a money maker. The county only pays for
> transportation to away games, referees and field
> maintenance. The gate from the games more than
> covers these expenses and provides significant
> funding to every other sport. If you want to save
> money get rid of all the girls sports, everyone of
> them (except b-ball at a couple of schools) is
> huge money loser.

I say cancel all high school sports as they are a drain on the budget. If the County doesn't make some major cuts, you just watch, there will be MAJOR increases in taxes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: highschoolfootballisamerican ()
Date: March 25, 2015 12:51PM

get rid of them all Wrote:
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> I say cancel all high school sports as they are a
> drain on the budget.

Unfortunately for you we live, as they say, IN A SOCIETY. And high school sports are a proud American tradition for well over a 100 years. While your comments have merit they will never ever come close to fulfillment (other than the tax increases which would happen anyway).

In the meantime, you can join the long list of those wanting school to consist of Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. No Recess. No Assemblies. No Foreign Languages. No Band. No Orchestra. No Music Instruction. No Science Fairs. No After-School Clubs. No Sports. No Fun. No AP/IB Classes. No School-based Driver's Ed. No Anything-Other-Than-Sitting in a (spartan)-Classroom with a (preferably underpaid)-Teacher with no Smartboard or any modern technology other than a chalkboard.

Now back to football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: joke will be on you ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:46PM

highschoolfootballisamerican Wrote:
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> get rid of them all Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I say cancel all high school sports as they are
> a
> > drain on the budget.
>
> Unfortunately for you we live, as they say, IN A
> SOCIETY. And high school sports are a proud
> American tradition for well over a 100 years.
> While your comments have merit they will never
> ever come close to fulfillment (other than the tax
> increases which would happen anyway).
>
> In the meantime, you can join the long list of
> those wanting school to consist of Reading,
> Writing and Arithmetic. No Recess. No
> Assemblies. No Foreign Languages. No Band. No
> Orchestra. No Music Instruction. No Science
> Fairs. No After-School Clubs. No Sports. No
> Fun. No AP/IB Classes. No School-based Driver's
> Ed. No Anything-Other-Than-Sitting in a
> (spartan)-Classroom with a (preferably
> underpaid)-Teacher with no Smartboard or any
> modern technology other than a chalkboard.
>
> Now back to football.

Languages, music, science are cheap compared to sports.

Ask yourself this, will football help you in the job market?

The joke will be on your kids when the best they can do is McDonalds after Asian and European companies take over. Sure, school is not as fun there, but they deliver on education.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: highschoolfootballisamerican ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:44PM

joke will be on you Wrote:
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> The joke will be on your kids when the best they
> can do is McDonalds after Asian and European
> companies take over. Sure, school is not as fun
> there, but they deliver on education.

Been hearing that nonsense since the 1980s. Partly true. Mostly not. Not everyone can be a straight A Ivy Leaguer. My kids played High School football. Went to college. Doing fine. Worry about yourself.

Now back to football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ehs86er ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:03PM

Why do I love high school football?

I can't take credit for this but it rings true.

http://lambertfootball.com/lovehighschoolfootball/

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBWatcher ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:10PM

>
> Ask yourself this, will football help you in the
> job market?
>
> The joke will be on your kids when the best they
> can do is McDonalds after Asian and European
> companies take over. Sure, school is not as fun
> there, but they deliver on education.


Once again the jackass speaks. There are many studies that show a direct correlation with participation in HS sports and success in life. It took about three seconds to find this article in Forbes http://fortune.com/2014/06/19/high-school-sports-business-cornell-job-market/
- there were many more.

BTW HS athletes also do significantly better in GPA - about a 1/2 point difference in NOVA.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: statistical sandy ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:20PM

FBWatcher Wrote:
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> >
> > Ask yourself this, will football help you in
> the
> > job market?
> >
> > The joke will be on your kids when the best
> they
> > can do is McDonalds after Asian and European
> > companies take over. Sure, school is not as fun
> > there, but they deliver on education.
>
>
> Once again the jackass speaks. There are many
> studies that show a direct correlation with
> participation in HS sports and success in life. It
> took about three seconds to find this article in
> Forbes
> http://fortune.com/2014/06/19/high-school-sports-b
> usiness-cornell-job-market/
> - there were many more.
>
> BTW HS athletes also do significantly better in
> GPA - about a 1/2 point difference in NOVA.

Once again, Biff shows his ignorance. The article contains numerous disclaimers.

Also, if sports are SO valuable, why don't leading schools such as Harvard and Yale place more emphasis on them? There is a whole world of education out there beyond Virginia Tech and 'Bama, you know.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: highschoolfootballisamerican ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:39PM

statistical sandy Wrote:
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> Also, if sports are SO valuable, why don't leading
> schools such as Harvard and Yale place more
> emphasis on them? There is a whole world of
> education out there beyond Virginia Tech and
> 'Bama, you know.

It's not like Harvard and Yale don't have sports.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yes but… ()
Date: March 25, 2015 04:41PM

highschoolfootballisamerican Wrote:
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> statistical sandy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Also, if sports are SO valuable, why don't
> leading
> > schools such as Harvard and Yale place more
> > emphasis on them? There is a whole world of
> > education out there beyond Virginia Tech and
> > 'Bama, you know.
>
> It's not like Harvard and Yale don't have sports.

NVCC has sports, too. It is a question of priority.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EagleFan ()
Date: March 25, 2015 07:25PM

Chad Lewis (son of Vaughn Lewis) will be the next coach at Edison!

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Coach attacked
Posted by: Unreal rumor ()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:11PM

I heard a player attacked a coach with scissors and pliers? This can't be true

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Slubdawg ()
Date: March 26, 2015 08:07AM

EagleFan Wrote:
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> Chad Lewis (son of Vaughn Lewis) will be the next
> coach at Edison!


Now that would be a GREAT hire for Edicson. Also, Vaughn has been or still is his Offensive Coordinator, not sure he's still doing it though.

I'm not a big Eagles fan but think Vaughn is a great coach, and by all accounts Chad is also.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Eaglefan ()
Date: March 26, 2015 09:00AM

Lewis was offered the job last year but turned it down. Not sure he would apply again! I think one of the current assistants will take over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Eaglesucks ()
Date: March 26, 2015 09:26AM

Edison needs to bring in a coach with scructure and stability, the AD should not be allowed to have any say on the hire because he is a complete idiot!!! Who would have ever thought that schools like Lee, Falls Church, and Wakefield would be blowing Edison away in football on a yearly basis? The school has talent, just needs to bring in the right coach.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EaglesFan ()
Date: March 26, 2015 10:30AM

Slubdawg Wrote:
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> EagleFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chad Lewis (son of Vaughn Lewis) will be the
> next
> > coach at Edison!
>
>
> Now that would be a GREAT hire for Edicson. Also,
> Vaughn has been or still is his Offensive
> Coordinator, not sure he's still doing it though.
>
> I'm not a big Eagles fan but think Vaughn is a
> great coach, and by all accounts Chad is also.

What makes you think he is a good pick. He has an overall losing record at Stafford and has had two 1-9 seasons in a row.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: March 30, 2015 12:51PM

I haven't seen anything about Matthie to TC Williams. Is this confirmed? Also Chad Lewis to Edison has not been confirmed either. What's the latest with these schools? They should have announced their new coaches before Spring Break!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EaglesFan ()
Date: March 30, 2015 01:53PM

Rumor has it that they started interviewing last week. One insider (asst AD) and 3 out-of-towners were interviewed (none of the assistant coaches were interviewed.), not sure how many were cut, but final interviews with principal is next. Expect an announcement next week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 1980EaglesFan ()
Date: March 31, 2015 10:17AM

Rumor has it that one of the Coaches from Friendship Collegiate is trying to get the job

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ballcoach ()
Date: April 07, 2015 11:59AM

Who is Pilson?how long has he been coaching in the region, anybody know?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: a coach ()
Date: April 07, 2015 05:02PM

Pilson played at Braddock. Coached at Washington Lee, Falls Church and West Potomac. Been at WestPo for 3 seasons or so.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EHSRules ()
Date: April 10, 2015 10:53AM

EaglesFan Wrote:
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> Rumor has it that they started interviewing last
> week. One insider (asst AD) and 3 out-of-towners
> were interviewed (none of the assistant coaches
> were interviewed.), not sure how many were cut,
> but final interviews with principal is next.
> Expect an announcement next week.


Are the ever going to announce the new Edison Head Coach, seems like this delay puts him at quite a disadvantage? Lots to do between now and August.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EHS2015 ()
Date: April 13, 2015 05:09PM

What the latest on Edison hiring a coach? Anybody heard?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EdsionDad ()
Date: April 14, 2015 01:11PM

Another season ruined by that idiot Stoy. They should have fired him instead of Woodleif.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Edison mom ()
Date: April 14, 2015 04:32PM

EdsionDad Wrote:
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> Another season ruined by that idiot Stoy. They
> should have fired him instead of Woodleif.


I'm with Edison Dad. What's the delay? Let's get off season Edison football started. Maybe the "powers that be" are going to just skip over 2015 fall football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Big Sherm ()
Date: April 15, 2015 08:01AM

Why does it matter, you are gonna suck anyway!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Give em a break ()
Date: April 15, 2015 08:36AM

Big Sherm Wrote:
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> Why does it matter, you are gonna suck anyway!


Come on. It sounds like they don't wanna suck.
Get football started at Edison

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: jambajuice ()
Date: April 16, 2015 11:28PM

Pilson?

wow

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: rumorstarter ()
Date: April 17, 2015 12:57PM

Rumors that Centreville is about to land a significant transfer. Not details. Anyone hurd anything?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MIA Edison ()
Date: April 18, 2015 04:38PM

Lots of schools participating in passing leagues.
Where's Edison? "Champions are made in the offseason"
Coach Woodlief would have taken care of us. Instead we have a big fat nothing.
Activities Director is worthless.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: AuntBen ()
Date: April 19, 2015 12:34AM

Heard Edison hired the Asst. Activities Director.
So maybe they will be up and running soon?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Fan ()
Date: April 19, 2015 09:38AM

Edison web site now lists assistant activities director Rodney Boyle as head football coach. Congrats Coach Boyle. Bring those Eagles back!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EdisonDad ()
Date: April 19, 2015 05:58PM

Never heard of Coach Boyle, what are his quals?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ehs80 ()
Date: April 19, 2015 08:23PM

If it's true, it is a great hire for the Eagles. He's not a retread or recycled coach like usually happens. He is in the school, very familiar with the student population and surrounding community. He'll represent the school in a positive manner. He'll do well I believe.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ummm if you say so ()
Date: April 19, 2015 10:44PM

ehs80 Wrote:
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> If it's true, it is a great hire for the Eagles.
> He's not a retread or recycled coach like usually
> happens. He is in the school, very familiar with
> the student population and surrounding community.
> He'll represent the school in a positive manner.
> He'll do well I believe.

I admit the recycling of coaches is tired out. If "Working in the school" is his best qualification, I'd stick with recycling. After all the cafeteria workers have the same qualifications. I don't know what his current position is, as you did not state it.
Sounds like this is a buddy hire? Does he have something on someone?
Best of luck to all at Edison.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRIPS ()
Date: May 02, 2015 03:15PM

What schools will be returning the most and who will be completely rebuilding next year?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Irony of Ironies ()
Date: May 02, 2015 03:20PM

The schools are broke, or so they say, but we still have football.

When that goes, maybe, just maybe, Garza will have regained some credibility.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: $$ ()
Date: May 02, 2015 08:33PM

What cost is football to the community? The only money the county pays is transportation and coaches stipends (pennies for the hours put in). If you cut football then you cut all sports. Football tickets sales and concessions are what keeps the other sports running. Sick and tired of hearing about cutting sports for money. That is never the answer.

Don't change start times. Cut back on assistant principals, and support staff who don't do anything. No two years of PE in HS, no school nurse, no career and transition specialists. Don't have curriculum specialist, assessment coaches, and elementary foreign language. Get rid of libraries and librarians in high school( everything is online). Expand vocational programs and academy classes and get rid of bs classes in school. Give alternate paths for students and get more out of the money we do have.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: curiosity ()
Date: May 11, 2015 09:02AM

who wins the region next year? Westfield? LB?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: May 11, 2015 09:11AM

In alphabetical order I think the top four teams in 6A North would be Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County and Westfield. A lot of teams lost a lot of talent so it will be interesting to see how it shakes out. You gotta figure Battlefield, Patriot, Robinson, Chantilly and West Springfield would be in the mix.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS football fan ()
Date: May 11, 2015 05:23PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> In alphabetical order I think the top four teams
> in 6A North would be Centreville, Lake Braddock,
> South County and Westfield. A lot of teams lost a
> lot of talent so it will be interesting to see how
> it shakes out. You gotta figure Battlefield,
> Patriot, Robinson, Chantilly and West Springfield
> would be in the mix.

Any thoughts on order of finish in each of the four conferences?

In Conference 6 (FKA Liberty), as realigned, I'd say the favorite would have to be Hayfield. Conference 6 includes Hayfield, Fairfax, Langley, Madison, McLean, South Lakes, Washington - Lee, and Yorktown.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: May 11, 2015 08:28PM

I would think a 2015 finish for Conference 6 would be something like:

Hayfield
Yorktown
Madison
Washington-Lee
Langley
Fairfax
McLean
South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CatFan ()
Date: May 12, 2015 09:24AM

What will the Concorde results look like?

Westfield
Centreville
Robinson
Oakton
Herndon
Chantilly

Can any of the bottom four contend with the top two??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: May 12, 2015 09:38AM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> I would think a 2015 finish for Conference 6 would
> be something like:
>
> Hayfield
> Yorktown
> Madison
> Washington-Lee
> Langley
> Fairfax
> McLean
> South Lakes

I agree with your #1 and your bottom two, though I think there is a slight chance that SL could overtake McLean.

I'd reorder 2 - 6. My main reason is that I think Yorktown and W-L will struggle a bit with their new competition. Aside from moving to a new conference and playing unfamiliar competition, they are playing bigger schools than previously. If you look at their schedule from last year, their 7-3 and 6-4 records were due in part to playing a lot of 5A schools. They will be playing tougher competition this fall.

Madison is returning a lot, especially on the line. They could have a good season. Their lower level teams (JV and Freshman)

I'm not familiar with Langley, but I keep hearing that they are losing a lot. I don't know how true that is.

I think Fairfax could be better next year than people think. They have a deep roster, and their JV team was really dominant down the stretch. You'd have to expect some of that to translate to this year's varsity campaign.

Therefore, my prediction is:

1. Hayfield
2. Madison
3. Yorktown
4. Langley
5. Fairfax
6. W-L
7. McLean
8. South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ball coach ()
Date: May 12, 2015 10:04AM

conference 7 aka Patriot should look something like this

1. Lake Braddock
2. South County
3. West springfield
4. Annadale
5. Tc williams
6. West Potomac
7. Woodson
8. Mt. Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: May 12, 2015 11:36AM

PRT Wrote:
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> RydelllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would think a 2015 finish for Conference 6
> would
> > be something like:
> >
> > Hayfield
> > Yorktown
> > Madison
> > Washington-Lee
> > Langley
> > Fairfax
> > McLean
> > South Lakes
>
> I agree with your #1 and your bottom two, though I
> think there is a slight chance that SL could
> overtake McLean.
>
> I'd reorder 2 - 6. My main reason is that I think
> Yorktown and W-L will struggle a bit with their
> new competition. Aside from moving to a new
> conference and playing unfamiliar competition,
> they are playing bigger schools than previously.
> If you look at their schedule from last year,
> their 7-3 and 6-4 records were due in part to
> playing a lot of 5A schools. They will be playing
> tougher competition this fall.
>
> Madison is returning a lot, especially on the
> line. They could have a good season. Their lower
> level teams (JV and Freshman)
>
> I'm not familiar with Langley, but I keep hearing
> that they are losing a lot. I don't know how true
> that is.
>
> I think Fairfax could be better next year than
> people think. They have a deep roster, and their
> JV team was really dominant down the stretch.
> You'd have to expect some of that to translate to
> this year's varsity campaign.
>
> Therefore, my prediction is:
>
> 1. Hayfield
> 2. Madison
> 3. Yorktown
> 4. Langley
> 5. Fairfax
> 6. W-L
> 7. McLean
> 8. South Lakes

Interesting but I was uncertain about the 2-6 also - I was actually leaning toward putting Madison as #1. I was at their game vs Chantilly last year and they looked really good - and they have a decent number returning. Langley appeared to be all Tyler West. Without him I can't see them being anywhere near what they were last year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: other ball coach ()
Date: May 13, 2015 01:58PM

I see Conf. 7 like this:

1. South County
2. Lake Braddock
3. West Potomac
4. TC Williams
5. West Springfield
6. Annandale
7. Woodson
8. Mt. Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FootballFan ()
Date: May 13, 2015 03:27PM

rumorstarter Wrote:
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> Rumors that Centreville is about to land a
> significant transfer. Not details. Anyone hurd
> anything?


Who is it?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who Cares ()
Date: May 13, 2015 06:23PM

rumorstarter Wrote:
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> Rumors that Centreville is about to land a
> significant transfer. Not details. Anyone hurd
> anything?


Who is it?

_________________________________________________________

Who cares? With 18 starters gone from the "dream team" they would need more than 1 significant transfer.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: coach mack ()
Date: May 15, 2015 03:53PM

HS football fan Wrote:
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> RydelllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In alphabetical order I think the top four
> teams
> > in 6A North would be Centreville, Lake
> Braddock,
> > South County and Westfield. A lot of teams lost
> a
> > lot of talent so it will be interesting to see
> how
> > it shakes out. You gotta figure Battlefield,
> > Patriot, Robinson, Chantilly and West
> Springfield
> > would be in the mix.
>
> Any thoughts on order of finish in each of the
> four conferences?
>
> In Conference 6 (FKA Liberty), as realigned, I'd
> say the favorite would have to be Hayfield.
> Conference 6 includes Hayfield, Fairfax, Langley,
> Madison, McLean, South Lakes, Washington - Lee,
> and Yorktown.

For some silly reason, the VHSL kept the informal "districts" for the next two years. At least the Liberty District and Liberty Conference 6 now have the exact same schools. The new Liberty is actually very similar to the old Great Falls District in the 70s-80s. Or Potomac District [?] in the early 90s.

Mount Vernon is the only area school that gets screwed in the realignment. It will still play old "district" 5A opponents and then completely different 6A schools in the postseason. So unfortunate.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Fan ()
Date: May 15, 2015 06:30PM

Any idea how SL will be this year? They were young last year and I expect a much better season. Great coaching staff with Taylor and Shannon running the show. Any chance they surprise teams this year and win the conference?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: May 15, 2015 08:11PM

SL Fan Wrote:
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> Any idea how SL will be this year? They were young
> last year and I expect a much better season. Great
> coaching staff with Taylor and Shannon running the
> show. Any chance they surprise teams this year and
> win the conference?


No chance at the conference. Best case scenario is South Lakes probably finishes 6th in their conference.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: southFakes ()
Date: May 16, 2015 12:23AM

Shannon is at Riverside HS in Western VA.
Taylor on his own.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: May 17, 2015 08:15PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> SL Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Any idea how SL will be this year? They were
> young
> > last year and I expect a much better season.
> Great
> > coaching staff with Taylor and Shannon running
> the
> > show. Any chance they surprise teams this year
> and
> > win the conference?
>
>
> No chance at the conference. Best case scenario
> is South Lakes probably finishes 6th in their
> conference.

I agree.

South Lakes Varsity and JV teams were pretty bad last year. Their Freshman team, however, only lost one game. Based on this, I'd expect a few sophomores starting on Varsity. They're probably one year away.

I had them in last place in conference 6. I think that's still the most likely, but there is some small chance they could pass McLean and W-L, but no higher than that.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: May 17, 2015 08:41PM

>
> For some silly reason, the VHSL kept the informal
> "districts" for the next two years. At least the
> Liberty District and Liberty Conference 6 now have
> the exact same schools. The new Liberty is
> actually very similar to the old Great Falls
> District in the 70s-80s. Or Potomac District [?]
> in the early 90s.
>
> Mount Vernon is the only area school that gets
> screwed in the realignment. It will still play old
> "district" 5A opponents and then completely
> different 6A schools in the postseason. So
> unfortunate.

I don't think that's right about Mt. Vernon. They did get moved up to 6A this year, from 5A. I understand they protested that decision, but to no avail. They got placed in conference 7. As to their schedule, their school's website doesn't have the 2015 schedule posted yet, but I checked on Max Preps, and 7 of their games are listed. The opponents listed so far are Stuart, West Springfield, Annandale, South County, Woodson, Lake Braddock, and West Potomac. I'm sure they have TC Williams, and two other nonconference games. Based on this, it looks like they are playing a full conference schedule.

If they were playing a 5A schedule but participating in the 6A playoffs, I wouldn't be happy if I were a 6A school on the bubble, as they would rack up wins, which gives them points for playoff purposes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: May 17, 2015 10:50PM

I see from the partial schedules listed that South County has Westfield back on their schedule. That should be a good game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OldCoach ()
Date: May 18, 2015 09:16AM

coach mack Wrote:
> Mount Vernon is the only area school that gets
> screwed in the realignment. It will still play old
> "district" 5A opponents and then completely
> different 6A schools in the postseason. So
> unfortunate.


No this is wrong, they will play all their new conference 7 opponents and then 3 out of conference opponents so at best they will have 3 5A opponents. Besides since they were 0-10 at 5A last year they certainly will be 0-10 at 6A this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS football fan ()
Date: May 18, 2015 08:42PM

Have kickoff times changed for the games this fall? Northern Region teams have traditionally kicked off at 7:30, but for this fall, many schools are showing a 7 PM kickoff. I'm wondering if this is up to the individual school, or if policy has changed on this for all schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: McLuvin ()
Date: May 19, 2015 08:09PM

kick off times all moved back to 7PM so little Johnny can get his rest in

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: P@triot Di$t Ch@mp$ ()
Date: May 19, 2015 08:16PM

other ball coach Wrote:
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> I see Conf. 7 like this:
>
> 1. South County
> 2. Lake Braddock
> 3. West Potomac
> 4. TC Williams
> 5. West Springfield
> 6. Annandale
> 7. Woodson
> 8. Mt. Vernon


2015 Conf 7
1. LB
2. WS
3. SC
4. WP
5. TC
6. Ann
7. Wood
8. MV

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: playoffs -- not ()
Date: May 19, 2015 11:11PM

Next question --

Which 11 6A North teams will miss the playoffs? There are 27 teams total, and 16 make the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6A north losers ()
Date: May 20, 2015 02:21PM

playoffs -- not Wrote:
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> Next question --
>
> Which 11 6A North teams will miss the playoffs?
> There are 27 teams total, and 16 make the
> playoffs.

McLean
West Potomac
James Madison
T.C. Williams
Osbourn
Annandale
South Lakes
W.T. Woodson
Herndon
Osbourn Park
Mount Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stallions ()
Date: May 20, 2015 02:50PM

Next question
Which round will south county exit in the playoffs?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ?me? ()
Date: May 20, 2015 08:14PM

U r assuming they make the playoffs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS football fan ()
Date: May 20, 2015 10:03PM

6A north losers Wrote:
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> playoffs -- not Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Next question --
> >
> > Which 11 6A North teams will miss the playoffs?
>
> > There are 27 teams total, and 16 make the
> > playoffs.
>
> McLean
> West Potomac
> James Madison
> T.C. Williams
> Osbourn
> Annandale
> South Lakes
> W.T. Woodson
> Herndon
> Osbourn Park
> Mount Vernon

By my count, that's 5 of 8 teams from conference 7 missing the playoffs. Last year, they placed 4 out of 7 (Mt. Vernon joins them this year).

Only one conference 5 (Concorde) team is missing from your predictions-- just like last year. It's hard to disagree with that, and I can't imagine who else would miss the playoffs.

Conference 8 is probably right, though it's possible that only two teams from Conference 8 (PWC) will make it.

I think Conference 6 is the hardest of all to predict. I don't see Madison missing the playoffs.

According to your prediction, everyone who made the playoffs last year makes it except Annandale, which you are swapping for Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt Morgan ()
Date: May 22, 2015 10:51AM

I recently had a conversation with a gentleman who worked with the Centreville staff as a coach (would rather not say names or coaching positions to keep confidentiality) but what's up with Coach Haddock? I hear things at Centreville are rocky between him and the community.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nova Coach ()
Date: May 22, 2015 06:00PM

All good things come to an end and the Centreville ship has sunk. I'm surprised that Haddock hasn't stepped down and took an Admin position.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not so fast ()
Date: May 22, 2015 06:32PM

Old Coach,
Yes, Mt Vernon was 0-10 last year, but it's possible they could win one or two of their non conference games this year , so don't pencil them in for 0-10 so easily.
Stuart is a possibility.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Throw it!! ()
Date: June 01, 2015 07:54AM

How did the passing league go this past Weekend at Falls Church HS? I hear tons of schools were at the event.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glory Days ()
Date: June 02, 2015 08:04AM

Edison football will rise again! Rodney Boyle and Sherman Deck will lead the team to glory!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Boil ()
Date: June 02, 2015 10:05AM

Who is Rodney Boil?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Neue Order ()
Date: June 02, 2015 12:42PM

Glory Days Wrote:
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> Edison football will rise again! Rodney Boyle and
> Sherman Deck will lead the team to glory!

Unfortunately that is a highly unlikely scenario for Edison. Strong squads at both Wakefield and Falls Church these days, and word on the street is a few good out of state transfers into both programs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: just saying ()
Date: June 04, 2015 09:47AM

Mt Vernon will not win a game

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EdisonDad ()
Date: June 09, 2015 11:58AM

Boil Wrote:
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> Who is Rodney Boil?


Mr. Boyle is the new head coach at Edison. From what I've been able to find out he is the asst. AD at Edison, has never been a head coach and has not coached in the past 3 years. Before that he was a V/JV position coach for a couple of years at Hayfield and/or WestPo? He also has some experience out of state but not sure what level - some say JV while others say V. He fired all of last year's varsity assistants and brought back 35 points per game Deck to run the defense. Could be another tough year for Edison.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Fan ()
Date: June 09, 2015 12:12PM

Heard South Lakes, Oakton, and Robinson are having a camp in Reston. Has anyone impressed?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Alum ()
Date: June 09, 2015 09:57PM

South Lakes has been dominate! they're a sleeper this year. They will finish in the top 4 region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL sleeper ()
Date: June 10, 2015 08:37AM

SL is asleep w 5 wins at best this year
Oak and Rob will have 7 wins

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 49EtT ()
Date: June 10, 2015 09:28AM

SL sleeper Wrote:
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> Oak and Rob will have 7 wins

Combined that sounds about right.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: June 10, 2015 12:38PM

SL Alum Wrote:
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> South Lakes has been dominate! they're a sleeper
> this year. They will finish in the top 4 region.


Easy, there. I'm not a South Lakes fan, though I don't particularly dislike them, either. I think they have a bright future, but I think they are a year away. Their varsity and JV squads didn't do much last year, but their freshman team had a good season. If those guys stick together, I think they are a year away from making major noise. This year is one year too early for that, IMO.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRANSFER ALERT ()
Date: June 10, 2015 06:57PM

TRANSFER ALERT:
20th nationaly ranked 2018 dual threat QB Miles Thompson will be leaving WT Woodson. Destination has not been announced.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I got a Woody ()
Date: June 10, 2015 08:48PM

Who is your recruiting source?

Miles Thompson played in 1 game and had one completion for 18 yards last year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nn ()
Date: June 10, 2015 10:31PM

qbhitlist.com

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Camper ()
Date: June 11, 2015 06:14AM

South Lakes looks like the worst football team in the area at camp. I would expect 1-2 wins for this team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt. Morgan ()
Date: June 12, 2015 08:26AM

Traditionally SL hasn't been a very strong program at least not in football (can't speak to other sports). I think that there's a good chance with the right coaching they could be pretty good, there are some good athletes in the Reston area, but I don't know about major noise yet.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL FAN ()
Date: June 12, 2015 11:21AM

SL has a goo team every 3-5 years. In 2002, they won regions but didn't do anything until 2010 when they had Hill. They had an ok year in 2013 but had to play Centreville in the first round. The jump to D6 hasn't been to kind to them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fbref ()
Date: June 12, 2015 12:04PM

I officiated some of the Hayfield freshmen and JV games last season and both teams ended undefeated according to their website. Should/could equate to success in the next few years even with the change in schedules. Time will tell. Other teams to watch out for include Westfield, West Springfield and maybe Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: June 12, 2015 12:13PM

Keep an eye out on West Po! lot's of talent and they have a good coach.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nova ball coach ()
Date: June 12, 2015 10:40PM

When all the re districting happened a few years ago South Lakes got all the neighborhoods that gave Oakton all their talented players from the 2002 to 2012 teams. After 2012 the players were not given a choice where to attend. They were forced to go to South Lakes (though many had already started to unless their siblings went to Oakton). Even their old coach brought it to everybody's attention that there was a bunch of talent at that camp he never had when he was HC. If you were at the camp last week you would have seen the talent. They should be a lot better than they are.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: We poo ()
Date: June 13, 2015 04:09PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Keep an eye out on West Po! lot's of talent and
> they have a good coach.

W po won't have more than 5 wins in 2015

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: June 14, 2015 08:05PM

fbref Wrote:
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> I officiated some of the Hayfield freshmen and JV
> games last season and both teams ended undefeated
> according to their website. Should/could equate
> to success in the next few years even with the
> change in schedules. Time will tell. Other teams
> to watch out for include Westfield, West
> Springfield and maybe Madison.


I think that will be one of the more interesting stories to follow this fall -- how the new Conference 6/Liberty District will look, with the realigned schedules. Of the schools coming in -- Hayfield, WL, Yorktown, all made the playoffs. Out of the holdovers -- Fairfax, Langley, Madison, McLean, and South Lakes, only one of them made the playoffs (Langley). I think the Liberty Holdovers will benefit from this, because of the way the VHSL point system is set up. Hayfield, WL and Yorktown are stronger programs than two of the schools they are replacing -- Marshall and TJ. That translates into more bonus points for the Liberty Holdovers, regardless of how they do head to head.

I look for Madison and one of either Fairfax or Langley to make the playoffs this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: rumor mill ()
Date: June 15, 2015 08:33AM

QB Miles Thompson at falls Church im hearing

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The Cavs ()
Date: June 16, 2015 10:05AM

This dude was our Freshman QB at Woodson, he played Freshman Football!!! Why is anyone even talking about him?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hiesman ()
Date: June 16, 2015 02:10PM

Miles Thompson for Hiesman campaign is staring early
At least he got out of Woodson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS football-who cares? ()
Date: June 16, 2015 04:17PM

If you believe Karen Garza, FCPS is going to hell for lack of money. Canceling football would save a lot of money. Taxpayers have had it, many do not have kids in school and not every school parent has a football player in the family.

It is a luxury-if you want it, you pay for it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: goaway ()
Date: June 16, 2015 04:51PM

HS football-who cares? Wrote:
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> If you believe Karen Garza, FCPS is going to hell
> for lack of money. Canceling football would save a
> lot of money. Taxpayers have had it, many do not
> have kids in school and not every school parent
> has a football player in the family.
>
> It is a luxury-if you want it, you pay for it.


This has been suggested many times before you. It will NEVER EVER happen. Go away.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tropical jen ()
Date: June 16, 2015 05:21PM

The Cavs Wrote:
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> This dude was our Freshman QB at Woodson, he
> played Freshman Football!!! Why is anyone even
> talking about him?


Why would someone transfer out of Woodson for football?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: when the crash comes… ()
Date: June 16, 2015 06:11PM

…all that will remain of FCPS is football. Yes, that's good preparation for the future. They can get jobs at Boosterthon forcing other school systems into bankruptcy.

Putin, won't even have to invade us, he can just watch the US go down the drain.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 3WxFH ()
Date: June 16, 2015 06:35PM

when the crash comes… Wrote:
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> …all that will remain of FCPS is football. Yes,
> that's good preparation for the future. They can
> get jobs at Boosterthon forcing other school
> systems into bankruptcy.
>
> Putin, won't even have to invade us, he can just
> watch the US go down the drain.

Maybe, but it's got nothing to do with football. Only a COMMUNIST would be so anti-American as to want to get rid of high school football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Old Guy ()
Date: June 16, 2015 08:29PM

TC Williams has an all star new coaching staff, including the mastermind of C'Ville's run.

They've always had the athletes. Now they have the coaching and leadership.

Expect TC to start making some noise over the next few years.You read it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach Boone ()
Date: June 16, 2015 08:55PM

Coach Matthie has put together a very good staff with several former Head Coaches and numerous coaches from Centreville and Westfield.

There will be growing pains this year but I expect them to win at least 5-6 games based on thier schedule. I'm looking forward to watching this team compete.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach ()
Date: June 17, 2015 07:17AM

TC miscreants will have growing pains for more than a year
Good coaching can't teach discipline in one season
5 wins is about right

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CaspertheToast ()
Date: June 17, 2015 12:21PM

Steve fox made Cville churn.
where is he now?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Makers Mark ()
Date: June 18, 2015 06:55PM

This coming season may shape up to be very interesting indeed. For those who weren’t able to observe either of the Team Camps this month, Oakton's O- and D- Lines looked very strong, but their teamwork is what made them even more impressive so early in the pre-season. To correct an earlier post, last week, South Lakes appeared more dominated vs dominant. Enough said there. Robinson was able to hold their own against SL, but appeared to have a hard time closing holes made by Oakton’s O-line that allowed their QB and quick Backs to muscle through time and time again. Robinson’s offense had quite a bit of trouble executing against Oakton’s Defense as well… with their impressively quick DEs and DBs containing anything outside and down the field, and the combination of DTs and LB’s stopping almost everything within a yard of the LOS. It was obvious that Robinson was getting a bit frustrated... and it wasn’t the heat. Not sure what happened during the other Team Camps this week, but as of right now, my bet is on Oakton to dominate the Region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fellow camper ()
Date: June 18, 2015 09:53PM

Oakton sucks. Robinson owned them the entire camp. We all know who you play for. What a bogus post.

It's Robinson, Westfield, Centreville, and everybody else.
I heard Westfield kicked the crap out of Oakton this week too. So don't start blowing smoke about your team. Oakton is 5-5 at best.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Old Guy ()
Date: June 18, 2015 10:37PM

Oakton will continue to struggle. Redistricting really kicked them in the ass.

They don't have a whole lot except a pretty good coaching staff....except for the new OC. I don't know where he came from, but he doesn't seem to fit the Oakton mold.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton Dad ()
Date: June 19, 2015 09:12AM

Oakton will be solid, but not great. Coaches do a good job their just isn't the same talent that they had 3-4 years ago.

Watched a lot of the South Lakes camp, Robinson is very big on offense. They had several big, athletic running backs. Their defense was average.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL sports parent ()
Date: June 19, 2015 10:36AM

I cringe every year when I read on one of these threads that someone is proclaiming SL to be the sleeper team in conference 6. I live in fox mill so I'm certainly aware of the talented athletes in several sports that are now going to SL but there are still several that aren't, they just aren't all going to Oakton as they've done in the past.

SL is still the school to avoid if your kid is a top-tier athelete in anything but track/cross country because the admin is still a joke. When my daughter first went their the first thing I heard from other parents in her sport was that the DSA only cared about football because it produced revenue. As I got to know more football families most of them said the DSA didn't give a rats ass about them either. The best they could do when Wooten steped down (a guy who played for SL and still teaches there no less) was Taylor who clearly didn't have a lot of good head coaching options available to him after getting run out of Robinson.

The best news that the school could get this summer is that Jones is taking another position at a different school and Duggan is taking over as DSA. The football team will win between 2-4 game this fall, that you can be sure of.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hmmmm ()
Date: June 19, 2015 11:44AM

Is Linda really leaving?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt. Morgan ()
Date: June 22, 2015 12:40AM

Every year we have this up and down about the old Concorde district. Oak ton has traditionally been a tough team but they've definitley had a few off years, I know Robinson has some good running backs but watching some games last year they looked shaky on defense in certain situations. Chant illy was really good 6-8 years ago but since have had some struggles, would be fun to see the backyard brawl be more competitive again. Centreville in Centreville and has been excellent for roughly 4 years now and so has Westfield..for quite a bit longer :) from what I know on the inside, WHS and CVHS run away with the region unless LBSS and SCHS get on the same level. It's the same four schools pretty much every year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver ()
Date: June 22, 2015 10:06AM

The two best teams will be Centreville and SoCo. SoCo program been slowly building and they def ready to make a big move this year. They will show their mettle vs. Westfield on September 11. Westfield is going down!

Centreville will be under-rated early dis season but don’t count them out. They have a ton of talent coming back (kids just couldn’t get on the field last year), good coaching and they will finish 9-1; 8-2 at worst. Bet on it. It will be Centreville vs. SoCo for the 6A North champ and SoCo will come out on top.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football observer ()
Date: June 22, 2015 01:23PM

SoCo will peter out in the second round as usual with their undisciplined style
They focus too much on running up the score on weaker teams in their confidence and don't know how to win verse more talented teams in the playoffs

Westfield is the team to beat in the north

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ref ()
Date: June 22, 2015 06:29PM

The two best teams will be Centreville and SoCo. SoCo program been slowly building and they def ready to make a big move this year. They will show their mettle vs. Westfield on September 11. Westfield is going down!

Centreville will be under-rated early dis season but don’t count them out. They have a ton of talent coming back (kids just couldn’t get on the field last year), good coaching and they will finish 9-1; 8-2 at worst. Bet on it. It will be Centreville vs. SoCo for the 6A North champ and SoCo will come out on top.

_______________________________________________________________________________

You're kidding right? SoCo may have been building but teams like Westfield have been historically strong since its inception. Past 14 years they've had one of the best winning percentages along with Stone Bridge. Schools like these show up every year and take on all opponents usually with much success.

Centreville graduated 18 starters, of which 5 or 6 have legitimate D1 talent. As far as the whole not getting on the field thing goes that is laughable. They have talent but lost AJ Turner, the most electrifying player in the North Region, 1A through 6A, that's a fact.

Centreville proved last year they were beatable without Turner. Take away him, along with almost the entire starting team and they've got their work cut out. If you count the two way players who graduated I think Centreville returns 3 starters, can't count Richbourg because he apparently isn't playing.

Bottom line the dominant teams will be in it just as they are every year. But there is no way that ANY team can lay claim to being the "favorite" in the 6A North this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Old Guy ()
Date: June 22, 2015 08:04PM

And don't discount that C'ville has lost the braintrust of their coaching staff.

I don't expect much from C'Ville this year other than being an also ran among the old Concorde teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FB coach ()
Date: June 22, 2015 08:55PM

Cville JV was beatable last year so the hidden talent argument does not fly
They will be exposed early

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: but my question is this ()
Date: June 22, 2015 10:26PM

Where will the football funds come from if FCPS is really $100 million in the hole?

Surely not even Karen Garza is stupid enough to think Sharon Bulova will raise taxes for football when the schools are falling apart and awarding six figure sole source contracts to motivational speakers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach ()
Date: June 23, 2015 07:58AM

Whoever said Oakton's line looked good last week in camp is far from correct! WHS destroyed Oakton on both sides of the ball.

Chantilly's line looked better (of course against WHS 3rd team) but nonetheless better than Oakton.

Westfield has to be the heavy favorite this year, unless cville has a couple sleepers....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fast Forward… ()
Date: June 23, 2015 10:34AM

What will happen next year when FCPS is $100 million in the hole? Does anyone really think there will be money for football? Sorry, the money will be going to pay administrators and consultants, to say nothing of the cost of Ryan McElveen's pet project, the transgender bathrooms.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Forward faster ()
Date: June 23, 2015 12:03PM

Fast Forward… Wrote:
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> What will happen next year when FCPS is $100
> million in the hole? Does anyone really think
> there will be money for football? Sorry, the money
> will be going to pay administrators and
> consultants, to say nothing of the cost of Ryan
> McElveen's pet project, the transgender bathrooms.


Nobody cares about your insane agenda on FFX county budget shortfalls
Do us all a favor and stick your head in the toilet and kill yourself
You are a true waste of life

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OldCoach ()
Date: June 23, 2015 01:28PM

> Nobody cares about your insane agenda on FFX
> county budget shortfalls
> Do us all a favor and stick your head in the
> toilet and kill yourself
> You are a true waste of life

Agreed and OBTW football is the only sport that MAKES money for FCPS - it is self supporting so Fast Forward why don't you bitch about something else and stay out of this thread!

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Re: High School Football 2015 6A North preseason rankings
Posted by: AllMetSports ()
Date: June 23, 2015 03:41PM

Here are the 2015 preseason rankings with the expected regular season wins.

Rank 6A North 2015 Wins
1 Westfield 9
2 Yorktown 9
3 South County 9
4 Centreville 8
5 Battlefield 8
6 Hayfield 8
7 Lake Braddock 7
8 West Springfield 7
9 Patriot 7
10 Langley 7
11 Washington-Lee 7
12 James Robinson 6
13 Chantilly 6
14 Oakton 6
15 Stonewall Jackson 6
16 Fairfax 5
17 West Potomac 5
18 McLean 4
19 T.C. Williams 4
20 Annandale 4
21 South Lakes 3
22 Osbourn 2
23 Herndon 2
24 Osbourn Park 2
25 Mount Vernon 2
26 James Madison 1
27 W.T. Woodson 1

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Re: High School Football 2015 6A North preseason rankings
Posted by: Warhawk Miss ()
Date: June 23, 2015 05:08PM

AllMetSports Wrote:
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> Here are the 2015 preseason rankings with the
> expected regular season wins.
>
> Rank 6A North 2015
> Wins
>
> 26 James Madison 1

You are waaaaaayyyyy off on this pick. Madison will have a strong year - they should definitely be in the Top 16 (make the playoffs) and I would pick them to be in the 6-4 / 7-3 range.

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Re: High School Football 2015 6A North preseason rankings
Posted by: Wareagle AL ()
Date: June 23, 2015 08:04PM

Never even heard of James Madison; they are probably lucky to get one win

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Re: High School Football 2015 6A North preseason rankings
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: June 24, 2015 09:55AM

Warhawk Miss Wrote:
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> AllMetSports Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here are the 2015 preseason rankings with the
> > expected regular season wins.
> >
> > Rank 6A North 2015
> > Wins
> >
> > 26 James Madison
> 1
>
> You are waaaaaayyyyy off on this pick. Madison
> will have a strong year - they should definitely
> be in the Top 16 (make the playoffs) and I would
> pick them to be in the 6-4 / 7-3 range.


I hate to say this, but I agree with Warkhawk Miss here. There is no way that Madison is only a one win team this season. They had a nice 2014 season, which was a nice turnaround from 2013. Further, their lower level programs were successful in 2014. I think they will have success for the next few years.

There were a lot of headscratchers on this list, but Madison with one predicted win was about the biggest.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 5A ()
Date: June 24, 2015 11:23AM

How about projected wins for 5A schools?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: June 24, 2015 01:10PM

5A Wrote:
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> How about projected wins for 5A schools?


TJ -- zero

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NOTAllMetSports ()
Date: June 24, 2015 06:44PM

Wild guess here - correct me if I'm wrong.

Rank 5A North 2015 Wins

1 Stone Bridge 8
2 Massaponax 8
3 Briar Woods 8
4 Broad Run 8
5 Tuscarora 7
6 North Stafford 7
7 Wakefield 7
8 Falls Church 6
9 Potomac Falls 5
10 Patrick Henry 5
11 Potomac 5
12 Edison 4
13 Mountain View 4
14 Lee 3
15 Brooke Point 3
16 Freedom (PWC) 3
17 Lee 3
18 Marshall 3
19 Halifax Co. 6
20 Freedom (LC) 2
21 Mount Vernon 2
22 Albemarle 2
23 Orange 1
24 Thomas Jefferson 0

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Re: High School Football 2015 - 5A North Preseason Rankings
Posted by: AllMetSports.com ()
Date: June 24, 2015 07:52PM

Rank 5A North 2015 Wins
1 Massaponax 9
2 Atlee 8
3 Stone Bridge 8
4 Briar Woods 7
5 Broad Run 7
6 Tuscarora 7
7 Wakefield 7
8 Falls Church 6
9 North Stafford 6
10 Patrick Henry 6
11 Potomac Falls 6
12 Potomac 5
13 Mountain View 5
14 Patrick Henry 5
15 Brooke Point 4
16 Thomas Edison 4
17 Albemarle 3
18 Halifax County 3
19 R.E. Lee 3
20 J.E.B. Stuart 3
21 TJ 2
22 Kempsville 2
23 Glen Allen 2
24 Stafford 2

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Keny Chesney ()
Date: June 25, 2015 11:55AM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern VA football ()
Date: June 25, 2015 01:10PM

My predication rankings for 6A North:

Conference 5 (old Concorde):

1. Westfield
2. Centreville
3. Robinson
4. Chantilly
5. Herndon
6. Oakton

Conference 6 (old Liberty reclassified): This conference is pretty hard to predict, though.

1. Hayfield
2. Yorktown
3. Madison
4. Langley
5. Washington Lee
6. Mclean
7. Fairfax
8. South Lakes

Conference 6 (old Patriot )

1. Lake Braddock
2. South County
3. West Springfield
4. Woodson
5. Annadanle
6. West Potomac
7. TC Williams
8. Mount Vernon (why the hell did MV move to a much harder district? Especially finishing 0-10 last year in the national district, a much less competitive than the patriot. Good luck)

Conference 8 (Prince William schools)

1. Battlefield
2. Patriot
3. Stonewall
4. Osbourn
5. Osbourn Park

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: gullett ()
Date: June 25, 2015 01:46PM

Mount Vernon had no choice. They had to move up, while Robert E Lee moved down.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: noseyquestion ()
Date: June 25, 2015 05:02PM

Anyone know what happened to former Westfield RB Kendall Anderson - was having a nice career at W&M but I see he is no longer on their roster? Transfer? Tired of football?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jim Synder II ()
Date: June 25, 2015 10:17PM

Arrested and charged with rape.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Liberty Fan ()
Date: June 26, 2015 08:42AM

I agree that Liberty/Conference 6 is going to be the hardest to predict. I'm not sold on the new teams and how they will do, as their records last year were largely based on playing in a district that was mostly 5A teams. They will face tougher competition this year. I think among the three, the Hayfield will finish ahead of both, and Yorktown will finish ahead of WL. As far as the five holdovers, my order would be

Madison
Langley
Fairfax
McLean
South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 757cheaters ()
Date: June 28, 2015 05:30PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgoutedenzene ()
Date: June 29, 2015 12:47PM

Liberty Fan Wrote:
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> I agree that Liberty/Conference 6 is going to be
> the hardest to predict. I'm not sold on the new
> teams and how they will do, as their records last
> year were largely based on playing in a district
> that was mostly 5A teams. They will face tougher
> competition this year. I think among the three,
> the Hayfield will finish ahead of both, and
> Yorktown will finish ahead of WL. As far as the
> five holdovers, my order would be
>
> Madison
> Langley
> Fairfax
> McLean
> South Lakes

Hayfield might have been an easy pick except Hendo's replacement has alot of damage to repair, it is so sad.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: former player ()
Date: June 29, 2015 02:59PM

but my question is this Wrote:
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> Where will the football funds come from if FCPS is
> really $100 million in the hole?
>
> Surely not even Karen Garza is stupid enough to
> think Sharon Bulova will raise taxes for football
> when the schools are falling apart and awarding
> six figure sole source contracts to motivational
> speakers.


FCPS pays only the salaries of coaches and refs and the electric bill. all other money that goes to football (uniforms, equipment, nicer facilities) comes from the individual school's athletic boosters, which is funded by parents and sponsorships, and some fees fall to the players (jerseys with names, small annual participation fee, etc.) big football schools usually have no trouble raising the money to run their program. This is also how all FCPS high schools (besides TJ) will have a turf field this fall.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HayfieldDad ()
Date: June 29, 2015 03:06PM

> Hayfield might have been an easy pick except
> Hendo's replacement has alot of damage to repair,
> it is so sad.


Who said Henderson was leaving, I thought the "funding issue" was just a rumor?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yeah but... ()
Date: June 29, 2015 03:13PM

Liberty Fan Wrote:
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> I agree that Liberty/Conference 6 is going to be
> the hardest to predict. I'm not sold on the new
> teams and how they will do, as their records last
> year were largely based on playing in a district
> that was mostly 5A teams. They will face tougher
> competition this year. I think among the three,
> the Hayfield will finish ahead of both, and
> Yorktown will finish ahead of WL. As far as the
> five holdovers, my order would be
>
> Madison
> Langley
> Fairfax
> McLean
> South Lakes

The old Liberty district was never really a powerhouse D6 conference with the since departed D5 Stone Bridge as the only powerhouse program. Most schools have enrollments that barely qualify for D6 while South Lakes enrollment surged only recently from D5 levels. Fairfax is the only school that has always had a more typical D6 enrollment

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LBparent ()
Date: July 01, 2015 05:02PM

HayfieldDad Wrote:
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> > Hayfield might have been an easy pick except
> > Hendo's replacement has alot of damage to
> repair,
> > it is so sad.
>
>
> Who said Henderson was leaving, I thought the
> "funding issue" was just a rumor?


What ever happens to Henderson, PLEASE don't send him back to Lake Braddock

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hairy Hendo ()
Date: July 01, 2015 09:08PM

LB needs Henderson to call some plays to shore up that weak O line

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Travelrocks ()
Date: July 02, 2015 11:12AM

757cheaters Wrote:
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> http://hamptonroads.com/2015/06/ocean-lakes-footba
> ll-coach-suspended-violating-recruiting-rules
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/c
> entreville-football-reacts-to-recruiting-violation
> s-by-state-champ-ocean-lakes/2015/06/26/bae5bd10-1
> c39-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html
>
> ...48 of the team’s 114 players (42
> percent) transferred during or after their sixth
> or seventh grade years.

>
> That's just ridiculous for a public high school
> program.


This doesn't surprise me, there have been rumors for years that VA Beach/Hampton has had issues depending on the sport and school.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FormerPlayer ()
Date: July 02, 2015 01:32PM

LBparent Wrote:
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> HayfieldDad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Hayfield might have been an easy pick except
> > > Hendo's replacement has alot of damage to
> > repair,
> > > it is so sad.
> >
> >
> > Who said Henderson was leaving, I thought the
> > "funding issue" was just a rumor?
>
>
> What ever happens to Henderson, PLEASE don't send
> him back to Lake Braddock

Hendo is a good play caller, especially when he keeps his mouth shut and uses just his hands. In fact he's a great man so long as his mouth is closed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HayfieldBooster ()
Date: July 02, 2015 08:18PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Where's Mike O'Meara ()
Date: July 02, 2015 09:38PM

Where's the Mike O'Meara Show thread?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: daleeatondaleeaton ()
Date: July 03, 2015 07:23AM

Who is Dale Eaton?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hendo..oh_NO! ()
Date: July 03, 2015 12:02PM

I think Dale Eaton is the person who Hendo blames for being FIRED from Mt Vernon after the parents petitioned FCPS to FIRE him for CHARACTER ISSUES...I don't know but CHARACTER ISSUES are what's undoing him at Hayfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MountVernon?? ()
Date: July 04, 2015 02:14AM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hendoroid ()
Date: July 04, 2015 11:27PM

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Henderson you need your own page to catch all the garbage that follows you around, ever consider moving to Florida?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: a hundred million dollars? ()
Date: July 05, 2015 08:55AM

FCPS is in debt 100,000,000, who in their right mind thinks we ought to keep spending money on football?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WhoIsDaleEaton ()
Date: July 05, 2015 08:59AM

a hundred million dollars? Wrote:
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> FCPS is in debt 100,000,000, who in their right
> mind thinks we ought to keep spending money on
> football?

This "Fat Fuck" certainly does
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Idiots ()
Date: July 05, 2015 11:07AM

Fcps doesn't fund football. Each team has their own booster who raise money for the program and ticket cost help pay for other stuff. Fcps doesn't do anything.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nicePix ()
Date: July 06, 2015 09:52PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who pays? ()
Date: July 06, 2015 10:11PM

Who pays the fat fuck's salary? FCPS.

Who pays for the turf fields they play on? FCPS.

etc. etc. etc.

FCPS needs to cut something, somewhere…

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jarvis ()
Date: July 06, 2015 10:46PM

You don't know how money works. It's ok. But your views are very aggressive for someone with no understanding of cause and effect nonetheless economics. But your fruitless blurbs against sports keep us entertained and that's all this site is for right? hehe

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: foooootballlll ()
Date: July 15, 2015 02:14PM

high school football practice only two weeks away, who is ready for some football.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: alliknow ()
Date: July 15, 2015 04:12PM

all i know is that Westfield will get to the regional finals and lose again....it is what they do

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: alliknow2 ()
Date: July 15, 2015 06:40PM

scrue yu nigga Westfield will ball this year baby

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco rules ()
Date: July 15, 2015 07:23PM

SOUTH COUNTY WILL WIN IT ALL THIS YEAR MARK MY WORDS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 15, 2015 08:39PM

An early early 6A (North/South combined) rankings:

1. Ocean Lakes
2. Westfield
3. Lake Braddock
4. Oscar Smith
5. South County
6. C.D. Hylton
7. Colonial Forge
8. Centreville
9. Patriot
10. Manchester

My own opinion is that Centreville and Lake Braddock should be switched. Patriot not a top 10 team in the state. OL and OS probably should be 1-2...

https://virginiapreps.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=905&Year=2015

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MANCHEESTER ()
Date: July 15, 2015 08:47PM

Manchester will win it all mark my words, yes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what do they bring? ()
Date: July 15, 2015 08:48PM

Who does Centerville have coming back or coming in for transfer?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who carez ()
Date: July 15, 2015 10:03PM

Football is going downhill around here, who cares anymore, the good days of NR football are dead

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football schedules out ()
Date: July 16, 2015 11:14AM

see the master schedules for 2015 on vhsl.org

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Suck on THIS, losers ()
Date: July 16, 2015 11:29AM

FCPS finally admits it might be necessary to cut football.

The school board didn't get taxing authority, the board of supervisors can't come up with what Garza is asking for. So, since they have to balance the budget, the list of cuts is floating around.

#1 is here. Enjoy your stupid sport while you still can.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: mommy help me ()
Date: July 16, 2015 01:02PM

the mean person is saying bad things about football....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: the old heave ho! ()
Date: July 16, 2015 01:14PM

Not everyone here has a fixation on high school football. If there's no money for it, it is time for it to go. The same applies to the ridiculous, and dangerous, turf fields.

http://digitalcommons.buffalostate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=jiae

This means we can reduce band as well, so the likelihood of another "Einuis Scandal" is minimized.

But don't worry, if you have to have your "football fix" there are clubs you can join, for a fee, of course!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: alignmnet ()
Date: July 16, 2015 01:52PM

alliknow2 ()

Date: July 15, 2015 06:40PM


scrue yu nigga Westfield will ball this year baby
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Who you calling nigger, you piece of white filth? Go fuck yourself!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ur wrong ()
Date: July 16, 2015 10:21PM

I got a Woody Wrote:
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> Who is your recruiting source?
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> Miles Thompson played in 1 game and had one
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He carried Woodson freshman football to a 6-2 record.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 16, 2015 10:24PM

Another 2015 pre-season ranking - this one is more like it. Still would put OS in 2, but Centreville is where they should be.

1. Ocean Lakes
2. Westfield
3. Oscar Smith
4. Centreville
5. Lake Braddock
6. Battlefield
7. C.D. Hylton
8. South County
9. Colonial Forge
10. Manchester

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_gy.cfm?GY=2015&DIVISION=6

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 17, 2015 12:59AM

Suck on THIS, losers Wrote:
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> FCPS finally admits it might be necessary to cut
> football.
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> The school board didn't get taxing authority, the
> board of supervisors can't come up with what Garza
> is asking for. So, since they have to balance the
> budget, the list of cuts is floating around.
>
> #1 is here. Enjoy your stupid sport while you
> still can.


It is a shame that the basic political tactics have infiltrated the education of our kids. The strategy is very simple. Instead of cleaning out their bloated administrative staff they select student activities for budget reductions which have the support of literally everyone in order to leverage unnecessary budget increases. Garza is the same as every other superintendent Fairfax County has had during the past 15 years with the exception that she gives lip service to fiscal responsibility.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Vhsl ()
Date: July 17, 2015 08:10AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Another 2015 pre-season ranking - this one is more
> like it. Still would put OS in 2, but Centreville
> is where they should be.
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> 1. Ocean Lakes
> 2. Westfield
> 3. Oscar Smith
> 4. Centreville
> 5. Lake Braddock
> 6. Battlefield
> 7. C.D. Hylton
> 8. South County
> 9. Colonial Forge
> 10. Manchester
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> http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_gy.c
> fm?GY=2015&DIVISION=6


Lake Braddock is a bunch of overrated douchebags
Will drop out of top ten soon when they are exposed for their weakness

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: how badly do you want it? ()
Date: July 17, 2015 10:55AM

To sustain the schools at their current spending level and meet the deficit, taxes would have to double. Just think about that for a second. Double.

Is high school football THAT important to you? Even if it is, it is not right to burden residents who don't care about it with double taxes. If you are so addicted to football, watch professional games. Who the hell cares about high school?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBCoach ()
Date: July 17, 2015 11:20AM

Please get off this thread. As has been pointed out MANY times Football is the ONLY sport that is self-funding. If FCPS kills all athletics (which they will never do), football will continue as a club sport and pay for itself. Men's basketball will also survive in a few schools, all other sports will have to be fee based as they are all money losers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sorry coach ()
Date: July 17, 2015 11:28AM

Hey Coach

I guess you didn't pay attention in school. In America, there's this thing called free speech. You should look into it.

I'm by no means convinced that football is self funding. If it needs to continue, let it continue as a club sport. Taxes are too high, kids are being taught in trailers, administrators are flying off to Korea and we're paying "educational consultants" $10,000 a day. Something has to give. If you can make your case for football, I suggest you do it.

But, in the meantime, I'm going to say what I think. Go complete your education in the meantime. If your coaching job goes away, you may need it!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBCoach ()
Date: July 17, 2015 12:40PM

I guess you didn't pay attention in school as the 1st amendment only applies to the government restricting speech.
You may not be convinced (apparently to lazy to do the research) but the gate alone pays for football, and many other sports. Added to that is the standard fund raising that yields $50-100K at most schools.


The case for football (and sports in general) is that it teaches life skills that are no longer taught in the classroom such as teamwork, winning/losing, self-sacrifice etc. Also HS athletes do significantly better in school (last study I saw was a 1/2 point higher GPA) and have fewer disciplinary issues than non-athletes. But I'm sure you won't let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

Bottom line, you are posting in the wrong thread - you're not going to convince anyone here - go to the FCPS funding thread to make you uninformed recommendations.

With a BS and two masters I think my education is complete and I'm retired so I don't need the stipend, but I appreciate your caring for my well-being.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Get with the program, Biff ()
Date: July 17, 2015 12:44PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBCoach ()
Date: July 17, 2015 01:10PM

Great three year old example concerning a 500 student HS in Texas.

Oh No, I just checked their website and three years later they are still on academic probation and they have reinstated some sports teams (but not football to be accurate). I wonder why they reinstated sports - maybe they found out the HS athletes have better attendance, better grades and better behavior than non-athletes.

Please don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

And while totally irrelevant, my degrees were all from highly respected East Coast schools.

Again please go post your inaccurate crap in an appropriate thread so us FB lovers can get back to talking about football - since it's here to stay.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: work on your grammar ()
Date: July 17, 2015 02:12PM

"Again please go post your inaccurate crap in an appropriate thread so us FB lovers can get back to talking about football - since it's here to stay."

Should be "we FB lovers" so maybe your education is not as complete as you thought?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fightingcommunism ()
Date: July 17, 2015 04:25PM

Someone made a point earlier that ONLY an ANTI-AMERICAN COMMUNIST or perhaps a WESTERN-HATING MUSLIM would be opposed to high school football. It is one of the most unifying symbols of America and a 100+ year old tradition. So in sum, if you are opposed to high school football - please go turn in your US citizenship and move to IRAN or CUBA or VENEZUELA or RUSSIA. Thank you for your time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Xenophobic Moron ()
Date: July 17, 2015 04:31PM

It turns out I've spent a lot of time in 2 of the countries you mention, as I come from one of them. I'll leave it to you to figure out which, and perhaps then you can offer even more ill conceived commentary.

I suspect there are huge segments of American society who don't care about football AT ALL. I invite you to demonstrate the power of this so called unifying symbol. It is, perhaps, worth mentioning, that it was not mentioned in the citizenship class, and it is not in the citizenship oath or Pledge of Allegiance.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FBCoach ()
Date: July 17, 2015 04:53PM

1) Proven wrong on 1st Amendment. Changes subject.
2) Proven wrong on FB costs. Changes subject.
3) Proven wrong on my education. Changes subject and weak attempt at insult.
4) Proven wrong on Texas HS example. Corrects my grammar.
5) Correct on my incorrect use of we vs. us.

1 for 5, good job, excellent debating skills! Again, everyone is tired of your rants on this thread, PLEASE post elsewhere.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Contributions? ()
Date: July 17, 2015 07:31PM

I guess "The Imitation Game" is still fresh in my mind. Alan Turing was an athlete, but he wasn't fixated on it. He helped invent the computer and win the war.

What comparable contribution has football made?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 17, 2015 08:07PM

There are over 14,000 high school football teams in the United States. Over a million kids will play high school football this year. It is a proud tradition in the US. Below is a photo of the 1925 Dixon (IL) high school football team. Future president Ronald Reagan is in the bottom row second from right.
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Ronald Reagan Dixon High School.jpg

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: History Lesson ()
Date: July 17, 2015 09:30PM

Good point made about Turing. Factor in Tesla and Einstein, two more "non footballers" who were history changers. True, Reagan presided over the end of the cold war, but it would not have happened without Gorbachev. Turing and Tesla in particular-without them, no computers, no Internet, no smartphones…

I think learning about them and training students in math and science is far important than football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 18, 2015 04:23AM

Dwight D. Eisenhower's 1910 Abilene (KS) high school football team. Eisenhower is top row third from left.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 18, 2015 04:31AM

how badly do you want it? Wrote:
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> To sustain the schools at their current spending
> level and meet the deficit, taxes would have to
> double. Just think about that for a second.
> Double.
>
> Is high school football THAT important to you?
> Even if it is, it is not right to burden residents
> who don't care about it with double taxes. If you
> are so addicted to football, watch professional
> games. Who the hell cares about high school?

It WILL be a difficult budget year for FCPS but don't buy into the school board's dooms day scenario. They should not be political but are probably more political than most NOVA politicians. In their mind their only job is to ask for larger transfers from the County, award consulting contracts and implement pet projects. They will cry, the Board of Supervisors will send them back to scour their proposal, they will get a smaller transfer than what they want but pass an amended budget anyway...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sad prediction ()
Date: July 18, 2015 11:31AM

Seeing how Karen Garza thinks, she'd rather eliminate reading than scale back football. This is the Texas mentality. When the test scores crash, Fairfax County will be a redneck haven like Lubbock, where Garza came from.

The kids will go straight from the stadium to the trailer park as they won't get into college and can't get jobs.

But, people will have their high school football. Hurrah.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CAN ANNANDALE CONTINUE RISING? ()
Date: July 22, 2015 02:09PM

From 2011-2013, the Annandale Atoms notched only four wins, but the program
took a big step forward last season winning six of their first eight games
before dropping three of their final four including an opening round playoff
game to Battlefield.

A key to their resurgence was the explosiveness of their offense which put
up 322 points on the year, the second-best campaign that the Atoms posted
since the turn of the century. With eight starters returning including
quarterback Tucker Mack, center Dave Park and wide receivers Colin Corey and
Tim Johnson, the Atoms should be able to move the ball well again this
season. "Everyone is more comfortable in our system," says head coach Mike
Scott, "we will continue to push the pace and stretch the defense vertically
as well as spread them out."

One of the key players to watch is running back / H-back Beau Hatch, a
6-foot-1, 195-pound senior whose versatility will be key. He and Jalen
Jackson will be the primary ball carriers while Corey and Johnson work
outside the hashes. Things may be a bit slow early in the season as Scott
and company rebuild their offensive line, but Park, senior Greg Stratton and
sophomore Cesar Lopez are a nice foundation.

If the Atoms are going to take that next step forward, it will come with an
improved defense as they surrendered over 28 points per game last season
forcing them to win some shootout games including the 73-56 victory that
they notched over Woodson.

The back seven on the unit should be strong with junior Malik Moten moving
to the middle linebacker spot to hold things down in the middle of the
group. He'll be flanked by fellow juniors Brahim Bangura and Eduardo Rivera,
who may also spend some time at defensive end. The secondary is deep with
experience as Johnson, Corey and senior Cory Pringle all return as starters.
"We should be athletic and aggressive, " says Scott. "We need some guys to
step up on the defensive line but the back seven will be very athletic,
experienced and tough."

The schedule does them no favors with Centreville and Lake Braddock up as
their first two opponents, but a stretch in the middle of the schedule
includes a number of favorable games. The offense appears to be in great
shape so, if the defense can improve, particularly along the line of
scrimmage, the Atoms should find themselves in the postseason once again
though it looks like they will have another date with a high seed. They
might need to pull an upset or two in order to improve upon last year's 6-5
mark.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wow, who cares? ()
Date: July 22, 2015 02:13PM

CAN ANNANDALE CONTINUE RISING? Wrote:
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> From 2011-2013, the Annandale Atoms notched only
> four wins, but the program
> took a big step forward last season winning six of
> their first eight games
> before dropping three of their final four
> including an opening round playoff
> game to Battlefield.
>
> A key to their resurgence was the explosiveness of
> their offense which put
> up 322 points on the year, the second-best
> campaign that the Atoms posted
> since the turn of the century. With eight starters
> returning including
> quarterback Tucker Mack, center Dave Park and wide
> receivers Colin Corey and
> Tim Johnson, the Atoms should be able to move the
> ball well again this
> season. "Everyone is more comfortable in our
> system," says head coach Mike
> Scott, "we will continue to push the pace and
> stretch the defense vertically
> as well as spread them out."
>
> One of the key players to watch is running back /
> H-back Beau Hatch, a
> 6-foot-1, 195-pound senior whose versatility will
> be key. He and Jalen
> Jackson will be the primary ball carriers while
> Corey and Johnson work
> outside the hashes. Things may be a bit slow early
> in the season as Scott
> and company rebuild their offensive line, but
> Park, senior Greg Stratton and
> sophomore Cesar Lopez are a nice foundation.
>
> If the Atoms are going to take that next step
> forward, it will come with an
> improved defense as they surrendered over 28
> points per game last season
> forcing them to win some shootout games including
> the 73-56 victory that
> they notched over Woodson.
>
> The back seven on the unit should be strong with
> junior Malik Moten moving
> to the middle linebacker spot to hold things down
> in the middle of the
> group. He'll be flanked by fellow juniors Brahim
> Bangura and Eduardo Rivera,
> who may also spend some time at defensive end. The
> secondary is deep with
> experience as Johnson, Corey and senior Cory
> Pringle all return as starters.
> "We should be athletic and aggressive, " says
> Scott. "We need some guys to
> step up on the defensive line but the back seven
> will be very athletic,
> experienced and tough."
>
> The schedule does them no favors with Centreville
> and Lake Braddock up as
> their first two opponents, but a stretch in the
> middle of the schedule
> includes a number of favorable games. The offense
> appears to be in great
> shape so, if the defense can improve, particularly
> along the line of
> scrimmage, the Atoms should find themselves in the
> postseason once again
> though it looks like they will have another date
> with a high seed. They
> might need to pull an upset or two in order to
> improve upon last year's 6-5
> mark.

Like this makes a difference. Washed up jocks end up as cart monkeys at Target.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: xCVmP ()
Date: July 22, 2015 03:35PM

wow, who cares? Wrote:
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> Like this makes a difference. Washed up jocks end
> up as cart monkeys at Target.

a) you cared enough to click on a thread about high school football knowing what the subject was about
b) you cared enough to make a stupid remark despite stopping to consider that anyone posting on this thread DOESN'T CARE what you think
c) someone just posted about two of the most important and influential persons of the 20th century that were jocks - guess you didn't notice that

That being said, no - Annandale will not continue rising and will be lucky to get 5 wins.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: July 22, 2015 06:52PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: getting out of context ()
Date: July 22, 2015 08:57PM

Somehow I think that in future history Eisenhower will be a short footnote. Reagan may get a paragraph for ending the Cold War (which looks like it might restart).

Tesla will get his own chapter: radio, alternating current, remote control, radio astronomy, etc. etc. etc.

Turing will get his own chapter: general purpose computer, stored program, defeating the Nazis.

Somehow football's contribution to history is kind of elusive if you ask me.

But I think this thread is about the teams in Fairfax, or is it a general purpose football debate area?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Presidential scholar ()
Date: July 22, 2015 10:45PM

getting out of context Wrote:
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> Somehow I think that in future history Eisenhower
> will be a short footnote. Reagan may get a
> paragraph for ending the Cold War (which looks
> like it might restart).
>
> Tesla will get his own chapter: radio, alternating
> current, remote control, radio astronomy, etc.
> etc. etc.
>
> Turing will get his own chapter: general purpose
> computer, stored program, defeating the Nazis.
>
> Somehow football's contribution to history is kind
> of elusive if you ask me.
>
> But I think this thread is about the teams in
> Fairfax, or is it a general purpose football
> debate area?

Both Reagan and Eisenhower would make any top ten Presidents list. This isn't anything that our current poor excuse for a president has to worry about.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WHAT'S THE PLAN AT WOODSON? ()
Date: July 23, 2015 08:10AM

From 2010-2014, the Woodson Cavaliers have failed to win more than three
games in a season notching a 12-38 record through those years. Prior to last
season, Mike Dougherty was brought in from Stonewall Jackson in hopes of
sparking new life a program who played in the regional championship game in
2007.

Looking at their 2-8 record last season, it doesn't appear that much changed
in Dougherty's first season. However, a deeper dive into the numbers shows
that there may be some signs for hope.

First, after not scoring more than 183 points in any of the prior four
seasons, the Cavaliers put up 250 last season, an improvement of ten points
per game from the 2014 campaign. In 2014, Woodson had two close losses
(games decided by seven or fewer points), but saw that number jump to three
last fall.

With four returning starters coming back including quarterback Jo Jo
Heisley, running back Chris Gardner, wide receiver Jack Caldwell and tight
end Torin Shanahan, Dougherty has a lot of experience to call upon on any
given Friday night. The coach also has expectations for sophomore tailback
Daequan Williams as a first-year varsity contributor.

That's not the end of his high hopes, either. "We are much better up front
as we had a great offseason in the weight room," says the coach. Entering
year two with their up-tempo attack, Dougherty believes that they can
continue their upward trend on offense. "We can and will score quickly and
often. Our goal is 80 offensive plays per game and 30-plus points. We will
put our opponents on their heels and limit their ability to substitute or
make adjustments due to our pace."

As many strides forward as the offense made last season, the defense went
the other way allowing over 40 points per contest. It's a situation that
Dougherty needs to turn around this season in order to take the program
forward. "This unit had a long season in 2014. We had troubles consistently
making plays. We will be young this season so many will need to step up
right away."

Despite their youth, the defense will see six starters returning. Shanahan
(LB), Caldwell (FS) and Gardner (DL) will play on both sides of the ball
being joined by senior Don Stedman (DL) and sophomore Kyle Hamrock (LB) on
defense.

"With a new defensive staff, we are looking forward to a turnaround for our
defense. We have lots of depth up front with several returnees in the
secondary."

The schedule is a bit stiff early with Chantilly and Robinson dotting the
docket in games one and two, but contests against Fairfax, Annandale and
West Potomac could give the Cavs a chance to get above .500. That's followed
by their two toughest tests of the season in South County and Lake Braddock
before they wrap up the regular season with Mount Vernon, West Springfield
and T.C. Williams.

Might not be the season that they take a giant leap forward, but Woodson
should win more games than they did last year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: July 23, 2015 09:33AM

WHAT'S THE PLAN AT WOODSON? Wrote:
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> >
> The schedule is a bit stiff early with Chantilly
> and Robinson dotting the
> docket in games one and two, but contests against
> Fairfax, Annandale and
> West Potomac could give the Cavs a chance to get
> above .500. That's followed
> by their two toughest tests of the season in South
> County and Lake Braddock
> before they wrap up the regular season with Mount
> Vernon, West Springfield
> and T.C. Williams.
>
> Might not be the season that they take a giant
> leap forward, but Woodson
> should win more games than they did last year.

I assume you are predicting that they will lose both of their first two games, which I think is a safe prediction. However, to "get above .500", they will need a sweep of those next three. I think they'll get some W's from those games, but I don't see them winning all three. My prediction: They will lose their first two, go 2-1 in the next three, lose the two games against SoCo and Lake Braddock, then go 2-1 down the stretch. That adds up to a 4-6 season. Progress, yes, but they aren't ready yet.

One thing that you forgot to mention is that they lost their leading receiver from last year's squad. Those are some big shoes to fill.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The really hurts ()
Date: July 23, 2015 09:47AM

Woodson is garbage and will be lucky to win 4 games.
They need to focus on what they do best and practice for their basketball hype squad

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: July 23, 2015 10:24AM

BY the way, these write ups sound like they are copied and pasted from somewhere else. Can someone confirm that, as well as the source?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football source ()
Date: July 23, 2015 12:59PM

So you are concerned with sources on ffxcu?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Date: July 23, 2015 01:16PM

WF Football Wrote:
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> who does Westfield bring Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is Westfield bringing back....Clancy the
> LB,
> > maybe a lineman or two. But who will man the
> > skill positions?
>
> Looking at their roster I see Tyler Scanlon,
> Terrel Monticue, Jack Clancy, and Brian Delaney
> who will probably make the biggest difference next
> year. Also, if Pearson is back, that will be a
> huge help in their backfield.
>
> Anyone know who their starting QB will be? Joey
> Free? Rehman Johnson?

Scanlon will play QB, They have enough talent at wideout and Pearson in the backfield helps alot

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rback ()
Date: July 23, 2015 01:23PM

Highschool Football Fan Wrote:
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> WF Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > who does Westfield bring Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What is Westfield bringing back....Clancy the
> > LB,
> > > maybe a lineman or two. But who will man the
> > > skill positions?
> >
> > Looking at their roster I see Tyler Scanlon,
> > Terrel Monticue, Jack Clancy, and Brian Delaney
> > who will probably make the biggest difference
> next
> > year. Also, if Pearson is back, that will be a
> > huge help in their backfield.
> >
> > Anyone know who their starting QB will be? Joey
> > Free? Rehman Johnson?
>
> Scanlon will play QB, They have enough talent at
> wideout and Pearson in the backfield helps alot


WHS has possibly the best RB in VA playing this year.......lol, just wait and see!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dawg Pounder ()
Date: July 23, 2015 06:15PM

Who is Pearson? where has he been? How is his size and speed?

what position do monticue and delaney play?

Where will reman play? Loaded we are. Go Dawgs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: virginapreps ()
Date: July 23, 2015 07:36PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TchwP ()
Date: July 23, 2015 07:41PM

Dawg Pounder Wrote:
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> Who is Pearson? where has he been? How is his size
> and speed?
>
> what position do monticue and delaney play?
>
> Where will reman play? Loaded we are. Go Dawgs

Brian Delaney is a Kicker (#5)
http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/national-rating-system/kickers/2017

Brian currently has the strongest FG and KO leg in the country in his class.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: July 23, 2015 10:59PM

TchwP Wrote:
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> Dawg Pounder Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is Pearson? where has he been? How is his
> size
> > and speed?
> >
> > what position do monticue and delaney play?
> >
> > Where will reman play? Loaded we are. Go Dawgs
>
> Brian Delaney is a Kicker (#5)
> http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/national-rating
> -system/kickers/2017
>
> Brian currently has the strongest FG and KO leg
> in the country in his class.


Delaney was Westfield's kickoff and very long field goal attempt man last year. Had a stronger leg than Westfield's First Team All Met field goal/point after kicker, Conor Bouveron who was automatic to about the 35-40 yard line. Scanlon usually punted. Nearly all of Delaney's kickoffs were into/beyond the end zone.

Delaney and Bouveron would switch roles in garbage time.

I think Delaney also played LB or something like that on defense.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Date: July 24, 2015 11:48AM

WestfieldDad Wrote:
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> TchwP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dawg Pounder Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Who is Pearson? where has he been? How is his
> > size
> > > and speed?
> > >
> > > what position do monticue and delaney play?
> > >
> > > Where will reman play? Loaded we are. Go
> Dawgs
> >
> > Brian Delaney is a Kicker (#5)
> >
> http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/national-rating
>
> > -system/kickers/2017
> >
> > Brian currently has the strongest FG and KO
> leg
> > in the country in his class.

>
> Delaney was Westfield's kickoff and very long
> field goal attempt man last year. Had a stronger
> leg than Westfield's First Team All Met field
> goal/point after kicker, Conor Bouveron who was
> automatic to about the 35-40 yard line. Scanlon
> usually punted. Nearly all of Delaney's kickoffs
> were into/beyond the end zone.
>
> Delaney and Bouveron would switch roles in garbage
> time.
>
> I think Delaney also played LB or something like
> that on defense.
> No. Brian played some O-Line on JV but he sucks. all hes good for is kicking the ball

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WvdUV ()
Date: July 24, 2015 02:51PM

FWIW, Bouveron did kick a 51 yard FG vs. Herndon last year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DMmtt ()
Date: July 24, 2015 08:57PM

Highschool Football Fan Wrote:
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> Scanlon will play QB, They have enough talent at
> wideout and Pearson in the backfield helps alot

I don't think Scanlon at QB is a done deal.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TitanPride ()
Date: July 24, 2015 09:44PM

TC Williams is the team to watch this year. They are loaded with talen and they finally got the right leader in place. Not sure if there ready for Westfield or Centreville but I expect them to compete with Bradoock and South County this year.

REMEMBER THE TITANs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: remember the TITans Suck? ()
Date: July 24, 2015 10:11PM

You have got to be kidding me...compete with Braddock and SC???
TC might have some athletes on the team but have zero discipline.
They will be lucky to get 4 wins against the really bad teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CAV(NOT A)FAN ()
Date: July 27, 2015 05:01PM

Miles Thompson left Woodson because daddy FIANLLY got fired! AD got tired of fielding complaints from parents and players about what an A$$HOLE Barry was to their kid/them. Parents are rejoicing from the bleachers of Pat Cunningham Stadium!

About f*ckin' time!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yeah so ()
Date: July 28, 2015 11:19AM

2015 football season practice starts in less than a week and this thread is very dry. Who will be the underdogs of the season? Who will be the overrated teams that will not fufill any prediction at all? Which players will
Be the best in the northern region?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fb coach ()
Date: July 28, 2015 12:26PM

Best: Westfield
Overrated: Lake Braddock
Underdog: West Springfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: July 28, 2015 01:53PM

At the top of the over-rated list every year is South County. Will this be the year they finally knock off someone of significance in the playoffs? They seem to have a solid program and a really good coach but somehow they manage to screw things up every time they play a big game. I say yes - they are returning a lot from a very good team last year. I say they will win two playoff games this year.

The underdog this year is Madison. I look for a strong season with at least 6 maybe 7 wins. They will have an upset or two (Oakton, Hayfield perhaps).

As others have mentioned one of the most interesting dynamics of this season will be the start of a rivalry between the powerhouse 5A teams of Loudoun County vs. the 6A teams of Fairfax County. Briar Woods, Stone Bridge have brutal line-up of top 6A teams on their schedule this season. Tuscarora and Broad Run also playing some 6A. How those games turn out will be most fascinating. I think Briar Woods will bounce back from their 8-4 season.

The dark horse for the "surprise" best player would be Westfield RB Dominique Pearson. For whatever reasons he did not see the field much the last two years but if he is the starting RB for Westfield I would expect big numbers. This will be the 5th year in a row that Westfield has featured a different leading rusher:
2011 – Kendall Anderson (William & Mary)
2012 – Dalaun Richardson (Shenandoah U)
2013 – Tyler Thrasher-Walker (James Madison)
2014 – Evan Gray (New Hampshire)
From what little I’ve seen of Pearson he has the potential to be of these guys caliber. Just don't know if he will actually play or not. Anyone know?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: July 28, 2015 02:47PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> At the top of the over-rated list every year is
> South County. Will this be the year they finally
> knock off someone of significance in the playoffs?
> They seem to have a solid program and a really
> good coach but somehow they manage to screw things
> up every time they play a big game. I say yes -
> they are returning a lot from a very good team
> last year. I say they will win two playoff games
> this year.
>
> The underdog this year is Madison. I look for a
> strong season with at least 6 maybe 7 wins. They
> will have an upset or two (Oakton, Hayfield
> perhaps).
>
> As others have mentioned one of the most
> interesting dynamics of this season will be the
> start of a rivalry between the powerhouse 5A teams
> of Loudoun County vs. the 6A teams of Fairfax
> County. Briar Woods, Stone Bridge have brutal
> line-up of top 6A teams on their schedule this
> season. Tuscarora and Broad Run also playing some
> 6A. How those games turn out will be most
> fascinating. I think Briar Woods will bounce back
> from their 8-4 season.
>
> The dark horse for the "surprise" best player
> would be Westfield RB Dominique Pearson. For
> whatever reasons he did not see the field much the
> last two years but if he is the starting RB for
> Westfield I would expect big numbers. This will
> be the 5th year in a row that Westfield has
> featured a different leading rusher:
> 2011 – Kendall Anderson (William & Mary)
> 2012 – Dalaun Richardson (Shenandoah U)
> 2013 – Tyler Thrasher-Walker (James Madison)
> 2014 – Evan Gray (New Hampshire)
> From what little I’ve seen of Pearson he has the
> potential to be of these guys caliber. Just don't
> know if he will actually play or not. Anyone
> know?

This all makes sense. I think the term everyone was looking for is "Darkhorse", but I think Madison fits that description. They had a nice turnaround last season, and I understand they are returning a lot from last year's team. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Madison finished first in the new version of Conference 6, even ahead of Hayfield.

Conference 6 will be the hardest to predict of the four 6A northern region teams, with the new teams coming in. I look for the newcomers to finished in the order of Hayfield, Yorktown, and W-L. The five holdovers will likely finish in the order Madison, Langley, Fairfax, McLean, South Lakes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 6 ()
Date: July 28, 2015 04:22PM

I'm a little puzzled why people think Madison will be a dark horse contender in Conf 6. Last year they were 5-5 and only beat bad teams (Fx,SL,TJ,Mclean & Marshall) and lost to some mediocre ones (oakton,chantilly & langley). Hayfield didn't play a ton of great teams but their only loss to a mediocre team was Chantilly and they put up semi-respectable scores in losses to cville, soco and westfield. I still think Hayfield is the team to beat in Conf 6.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NGujx ()
Date: July 28, 2015 08:02PM

http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com/members/media/9th-annual-gameday-media-day/

This year's Media Day will be held on one day starting at 10:00 a.m on Wednesday, and will spotlight 33 of the areas top coaches. Media Day will be streamed LIVE on Gamedaymagazine.com and featured on our Facebook page, The Gameday Nation. FREE

Below is the schedule of coaches who will speak and their tentative times of appearance:

2015 MEDIA DAY SCHEDULE

10:00 Sean Curry (Freedom SR)
10:12 Daniel Bruton (Forest Park)
10:24 Marc Matthie (TC Williams)
10:36 Chris Haddock (Centreville)
10:48 Mike Burnett (Tuscarora)
11:00 Reed Prosser (Heritage)
11:12 Lenny Schultz (Madison)
11:24 Kevin Simonds (Fairfax)
11:36 Bill Hall (Sherando)
11:48 Jeremiah Ross (West Potomac)
12:00 Mick Mullins (Park View)
12:12 Jason Allen (Potomac Falls)
12:24 Kyle Simmons (Westfield)
12:36 Gary Wortham (Woodbridge)
12:48 Barry Wells (Mount Vernon)
1:00 Mike Dougherty (Woodson)
1:12 Jason Rowley (Oakton)
1:24 Scott Vossler (Robinson)
1:36 Said Aziz (Falls Church)
1:48
2:00 Trey Taylor (South Lakes)
2:12 Brud Bicknell (Patriot)
2:24 Jared Van Acker (Battlefield)
2:36 Brian Day (Riverside)
2:48 Jason Dawson ( John Champe)
3:00 Mickey Thompson (Stone Bridge)
3:12 Mike Lalli (Chantilly)
3:24
3:36
3:48 Anthony Long (Loudoun Valley)
4:00 Tony Tallent (Rock Ridge)
4:12 Sean Finnerty (Liberty)
4:24 Eric Henderson (Hayfield)
4:36 Eric Pilson (RE Lee)
4:48 Jeremiah Davis (Herndon)
5:00 Charlie Pierce (Briar Woods)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: July 29, 2015 01:46PM

Notes from Centreville Coach Haddock:

SR Kyle Richbourg will be top RB
JR Jameel Siler will play QB
SR Riley Newell will anchor O-Line - expects OL will be one of Centreville's strengths this year
Defense will be led by 6'5", 230 Lb DL SR Christian Brooks (D1 recruit), SR LB Andre Horner, and JR DL Caleb Brooks.
No names but expects defensive backfield to be another strength this season
Expects team to be bolstered by 3 transfers:
RB/WR/KR Isaiah Culver (Langley), father now asst.coach at Centreville
TE Brett Clark (PVI)
Thomas ? (from Maryland)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: July 29, 2015 02:34PM

I could see Madison getting to 6 wins this year IF they can beat Oakton in their opener, but I don’t see them as a threat to the top tier teams.

Love the Loudoun-Fairfax matchups this year, there will be tons of exciting football games each week.

A team on the rise is WT Woodson. Coming off a 2-8 season they are not a top of conference team by any stretch, but I think their fast tempo offense in year 2 will be a lot better. It sounds like from the media day the coach is very encouraged by the offseason and I like how he is incorporating Cross Fit into it. The opener against Chantilly will tell me a lot. My hesitation is they are scrimmaging Marshall and South Lakes; I’m a big proponent of scrimmaging better teams as Woodson will get little out of these matchups.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CVILLE ROX INDEED ()
Date: July 29, 2015 02:35PM

Yes the rumors of Centreville's immediate demise are way overdone. Of course they logically cannot be as good as the team from the last two years but do not sleep on them. I expect them to be at least in the 7-3, 8-2 or better zone and then battling hard come playoff time....GO CVILLE.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson rocks ()
Date: July 29, 2015 02:45PM

Notes from Robinson Coach:

Defense is young but most of D and O line returning
QB, FB, HB returning
Have big RB; 225 lbs on scales; Squat 500 & benches 300

First test will be vs Lake Braddock in rivalry game
7 of 8 teams Robinson will play won a playoff game last season

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: captain obvious1 ()
Date: July 29, 2015 03:47PM

A few things to bank on for the upcoming season


1. Westfield will lose in the Northern Region game
2. SOCO still sux
3. Hendo at Hayfield will get a role as Fat Bastard in the next Austin Powers movie
4. Karen Garza will hold an FCPS stakeholder meeting on the fifty yard line of one of the artificial fields
5. The teams down south like Ocean Lakes and Oscar Smith will continue to cheat so it does not matter anyway (have you read the headlines about Ocean Lakes coach getting caught with recruiting violations?)....it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bill Murry ()
Date: July 29, 2015 03:57PM

Somebody's been watching Meatballs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: July 29, 2015 04:00PM

CVILLE ROX INDEED Wrote:
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> Yes the rumors of Centreville's immediate demise
> are way overdone. Of course they logically cannot
> be as good as the team from the last two years but
> do not sleep on them. I expect them to be at
> least in the 7-3, 8-2 or better zone and then
> battling hard come playoff time....GO CVILLE.


I have not heard ANY rumors of Centreville's demise. On the contrary everyone I talk to expects them to be a top contender for 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Maj Pain ()
Date: July 29, 2015 04:59PM

captain obvious1 Wrote:
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> A few things to bank on for the upcoming season
>
>
> 1. Westfield will lose in the Northern Region
> game
> 2. SOCO still sux
> 3. Hendo at Hayfield will get a role as Fat
> Bastard in the next Austin Powers movie
> 4. Karen Garza will hold an FCPS stakeholder
> meeting on the fifty yard line of one of the
> artificial fields
> 5. The teams down south like Ocean Lakes and
> Oscar Smith will continue to cheat so it does not
> matter anyway (have you read the headlines about
> Ocean Lakes coach getting caught with recruiting
> violations?)....it just doesn't matter, it just
> doesn't matter


why so much hate for Soco and Hendo?

I heard Soco is taking a week to scrimmage a beach team and learn their ways.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Maine ()
Date: July 29, 2015 05:29PM

Ocean Lakes article.

http://hamptonroads.com/2015/06/ocean-lakes-football-coach-suspended-after-recruitment-violation

captain obvious1 Wrote:
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> A few things to bank on for the upcoming season
>
>
> 1. Westfield will lose in the Northern Region
> game
> 2. SOCO still sux
> 3. Hendo at Hayfield will get a role as Fat
> Bastard in the next Austin Powers movie
> 4. Karen Garza will hold an FCPS stakeholder
> meeting on the fifty yard line of one of the
> artificial fields
> 5. The teams down south like Ocean Lakes and
> Oscar Smith will continue to cheat so it does not
> matter anyway (have you read the headlines about
> Ocean Lakes coach getting caught with recruiting
> violations?)....it just doesn't matter, it just
> doesn't matter

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yo retard ()
Date: July 29, 2015 06:16PM

CAV(NOT A)FAN Wrote:
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> Miles Thompson left Woodson because daddy FIANLLY
> got fired! AD got tired of fielding complaints
> from parents and players about what an A$$HOLE
> Barry was to their kid/them. Parents are rejoicing
> from the bleachers of Pat Cunningham Stadium!
>
> About f*ckin' time!!!


Miles Thompson got a scholarship to a private school for football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 29, 2015 07:29PM

Westfield Head Coach Kyle Simmons had a pretty matter-of-fact briefing. They have a lot coming back on defense. He seemed happy with their linebacker situation mentioning 5 veteran LB led by Navy commit Jack Clancy.

The big challenge will be on offense where they lost starting 4 OL, QB, WR, TE, RB. As always they will just be looking for younger guys to step up. Mentioned one of their better defensive lineman from last year - Chris Leo - will probably switch to OL. Expects Hank Johnson and Ivory Frimpong to be top WR. Confirmed Dominique Pearson will be at RB.

Seems QB is totally up for grabs - either senior Tyler Scanlon or junior Rehman Johnson. The weeks of August will decide. Spoke rather wistfully about how good Scanlon is at WR... said Brian Delaney will have both kicking and punting duties.

Indicated unlikely will have anyone playing both ways - at least not that much. Interestingly, said very impressed with freshman class - expects a number could start as sophomores. Otherwise, no big news or new players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ududu ()
Date: July 29, 2015 09:17PM

The teams like Langley, McLean, and dairfax will boast what? Madison is returning best QB in the northern region .

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield sux ()
Date: July 29, 2015 10:33PM

Westfield is a bunch of posers just like SOCO

GO LAKE BRADDOCK

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Moron ()
Date: July 29, 2015 10:45PM

Westfield is a bunch of posers?

Hey moron, they whipped LB in the playoffs
40 or 41 to nothing when Westfield's 2nd and 3rd stringers went in late 3rd quarter.

Westfield has been one of the most successful programs in this area the past 14 years.

Do they have a ton of state titles, no, only two. But they seem to be in the mix almost every post season.

One if these years they might get back to the championship. They've got 7-8 returning starters on D this year. Defense wins championships.

Guess we'll see but to call them posers is just ignorant!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: maybe then ()
Date: July 29, 2015 10:52PM

Maybe better then to call them posies....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Moron ()
Date: July 29, 2015 10:53PM

Btw, that poser of a team came pretty close to beating Centreville in the playoffs.

I believe Centreville was averaging 35 points or more with AJ Turner back. Westfield's defense only gave up 14.

The only other score was opening kickoff, which if you ever saw Westfield's kicker in action was sort of a fluke. That kicker usually puts it out of the back of the end zone.

And if anyone watched that game it was the underclassmen, especially on D, that played the best.

I don't think they'll be a team to sleep on, certainly not one to refer to as "posers"!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: maybe then ()
Date: July 29, 2015 11:01PM

oh you are turning me on, those boys from WestField sound so tough

GO BRUINS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Shsh ()
Date: July 30, 2015 09:55AM

Lake Braddock, may have the easiest schedule in all the northern region unless Annandale gives them a fight and Woodson can play like they did in their match up last year, they'll go at worst7-3. Truly unfair while south county scheduled Briar woods, Westfield, and even hayfield will be a shoot out. Lake Braddock will fall in first or second game in post season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: shsh 2 ()
Date: July 30, 2015 11:54AM

Lake Braddock will roll, SOCO sux, and Westfield will choke

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Braddock buster ()
Date: July 30, 2015 01:03PM

The VHSL shows Braddock has the 4 hardest schedule strength in 6A north.
They will have trouble beating Soco Springfield and cville
Woodson and Annandale are not playoff teams

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: July 30, 2015 03:09PM

Shsh Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock, may have the easiest schedule in
> all the northern region unless Annandale gives
> them a fight and Woodson can play like they did in
> their match up last year, they'll go at worst7-3.
> Truly unfair while south county scheduled Briar
> woods, Westfield, and even hayfield will be a
> shoot out. Lake Braddock will fall in first or
> second game in post season.

South County has had notoriously easy schedules the past few seasons. This will be good for them if they infact play Westfield and Briar Woods. I'd much rather have a 7-3 season that prepares for a playoff run instead of a cake walk 9 win season and an early exit as has been the case with South County the past couple years.

Still though South County fans can't complain about that schedule, look at the Concorde who will have to pay each other in addition to top Loudoun programs this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO NATION ()
Date: July 30, 2015 03:09PM

This is the year SOCO rides over everyone. Braddock is a pushover, Westfield is a choke artist, Centreville lost all their stars. SOCO for states baby, oh yeah!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sucko ()
Date: July 30, 2015 03:26PM

Any bets on Soco going 0-4 thru September?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hendoroid ()
Date: July 30, 2015 04:27PM

Maj Pain Wrote:
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> captain obvious1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A few things to bank on for the upcoming season
> >
> >
> > 1. Westfield will lose in the Northern Region
> > game
> > 2. SOCO still sux
> > 3. Hendo at Hayfield will get a role as Fat
> > Bastard in the next Austin Powers movie
> > 4. Karen Garza will hold an FCPS stakeholder
> > meeting on the fifty yard line of one of the
> > artificial fields
> > 5. The teams down south like Ocean Lakes and
> > Oscar Smith will continue to cheat so it does
> not
> > matter anyway (have you read the headlines
> about
> > Ocean Lakes coach getting caught with
> recruiting
> > violations?)....it just doesn't matter, it just
> > doesn't matter
>
>
> why so much hate for Soco and Hendo?
>
> I heard Soco is taking a week to scrimmage a beach
> team and learn their ways.


Its not so much that we "hate Hendo" it's that his lying, cheating, stealing, ego manic, was once FIRED and should have stayed FIRED ways piss us off. He's a fat fuck, with an out of control ego. OK play caller, just should never open his mouth or be an example for kids.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WkWuH ()
Date: July 30, 2015 04:47PM

So based on the below, if Hayfield better of with him over Coach Hill - never heard these kind of complaints about Roy?

Hendoroid Wrote:
>
> Its not so much that we "hate Hendo" it's that his
> lying, cheating, stealing, ego manic, was once
> FIRED and should have stayed FIRED ways piss us
> off. He's a fat fuck, with an out of control ego.
> OK play caller, just should never open his mouth
> or be an example for kids.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hendo is love ()
Date: July 30, 2015 04:52PM

Why all the hate he is great, just ask him

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Baby Bear ()
Date: July 30, 2015 05:07PM

Hendoroid Wrote:
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> Maj Pain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > captain obvious1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A few things to bank on for the upcoming
> season
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Westfield will lose in the Northern
> Region
> > > game
> > > 2. SOCO still sux
> > > 3. Hendo at Hayfield will get a role as Fat
> > > Bastard in the next Austin Powers movie
> > > 4. Karen Garza will hold an FCPS stakeholder
> > > meeting on the fifty yard line of one of the
> > > artificial fields
> > > 5. The teams down south like Ocean Lakes and
> > > Oscar Smith will continue to cheat so it does
> > not
> > > matter anyway (have you read the headlines
> > about
> > > Ocean Lakes coach getting caught with
> > recruiting
> > > violations?)....it just doesn't matter, it
> just
> > > doesn't matter
> >
> >
> > why so much hate for Soco and Hendo?
> >
> > I heard Soco is taking a week to scrimmage a
> beach
> > team and learn their ways.
>
>
> Its not so much that we "hate Hendo" it's that his
> lying, cheating, stealing, ego manic, was once
> FIRED and should have stayed FIRED ways piss us
> off. He's a fat fuck, with an out of control ego.
> OK play caller, just should never open his mouth
> or be an example for kids.


somebody either got the bench or his feelings hurt by Hendo...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: July 30, 2015 05:12PM

Take a look at 5A Stone Bridge's schedule with last year's records:

McLean (5-5), 6A, no playoffs
Madison (5-5), 6A, no playoffs
Chantilly (6-6), 6A, 1 playoff win
Westfield (12-2) 6A, 3 playoff wins
West Springfield (9-3) 6A, 1 playoff win
Robinson (6-5) 6A, playoff first round loss
Broad Run (9-4) 5A, 2 playoff wins
Tuscarora (14-1) 5A, 4 playoff wins
Potomac Falls (6-5) 5A, playoff first round loss
Briar Woods (8-4) 5A, 1 playoff win

Not one team with a losing record, 8 playoff teams with a combined 12-8 record in the playoffs. Doesn't get much tougher than that - 3 Conference 5 teams + their own 4 from Conference 14.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: July 30, 2015 06:42PM

Stone Bridge has a definitely has a tough schedule, but a few of the Concorde teams also have some brutal schedules. I think Robinson's is harder, see below

West Springfield (6A) 9-3 1 playoff win
Woodson (6A) 2-8 no playoffs
Lake Braddock (6A) 10-3 2 playoff wins
Oakton (6A) 5-6 playoff loss
Chantilly (6A) 7-5 1 playoff win
Stone Bridge (5A) 10-3 2 playoff wins
Westfield (6A) 12-2 3 playoff wins
Herndon (6A) 5-5 no playoffs
Broad Run (5A) 9-4 2 playoff wins
Centreville (6A) 12-3 4 playoff wins

8 playoff teams, 7 teams that won at least 1 playoff game with a combined 15-8 playoff record. The Rams better buckle up this year. They will be tested.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: July 30, 2015 07:21PM

Good argument for Robinson. But at least they have 1 easy game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: inquiring mind ()
Date: July 30, 2015 10:10PM

Will Centreville be any good or will they drop way back?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HvbEP ()
Date: July 30, 2015 10:33PM

centrevillerox Wrote:
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> Notes from Centreville Coach Haddock:
>
> SR Kyle Richbourg will be top RB
> JR Jameel Siler will play QB
> SR Riley Newell will anchor O-Line - expects OL
> will be one of Centreville's strengths this year
> Defense will be led by 6'5", 230 Lb DL SR
> Christian Brooks (D1 recruit), SR LB Andre Horner,
> and JR DL Caleb Brooks.
> No names but expects defensive backfield to be
> another strength this season
> Expects team to be bolstered by 3 transfers:
> RB/WR/KR Isaiah Culver (Langley), father now
> asst.coach at Centreville
> TE Brett Clark (PVI)
> Thomas ? (from Maryland)

The 3rd transfer is Thomas Joffray who played last year at Northwood High School in Silver Spring.

http://sports.yahoo.com/virginiapreps/football/recruiting/player-Thomas-Joffray-181325

So between Culver and Joffray they will not be losing as much team speed as one would have thought. Nice additions...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Go Rams ()
Date: July 31, 2015 07:31AM

Watch out for the Robinson Rams!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sure u bet ()
Date: July 31, 2015 07:41AM

Sure the Rams will be the ones tripping over themselves ha ha

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football ()
Date: July 31, 2015 08:14AM

How will West Springfield be this season?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not that great ()
Date: July 31, 2015 09:14AM

centrevillerox Wrote:
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> Notes from Centreville Coach Haddock:
>
> SR Kyle Richbourg will be top RB
> JR Jameel Siler will play QB
> SR Riley Newell will anchor O-Line - expects OL
> will be one of Centreville's strengths this year
> Defense will be led by 6'5", 230 Lb DL SR
> Christian Brooks (D1 recruit), SR LB Andre Horner,
> and JR DL Caleb Brooks.
> No names but expects defensive backfield to be
> another strength this season
> Expects team to be bolstered by 3 transfers:
> RB/WR/KR Isaiah Culver (Langley), father now
> asst.coach at Centreville
> TE Brett Clark (PVI)
> Thomas ? (from Maryland)

The 3rd transfer is Thomas Joffray who played last year at Northwood High School in Silver Spring.

http://sports.yahoo.com/virginiapreps/football/recruiting/player-Thomas-Joffray-181325

So between Culver and Joffray they will not be losing as much team speed as one would have thought. Nice additions...



They lost 18 starters, 6 DI football recruits, along with O'Connor and Love, not to mention the most electrifying player in AJ Turner.

Haddock can bring in whomever he wants, love his transfers each season, he has only 1 legitimate DI football player in Brooks.

Welcome back to earth Centreville, those who know what that team has as far as talent goes this year knows their rein is over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: check spelling ()
Date: July 31, 2015 09:33AM

reign

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sleeper field ()
Date: July 31, 2015 10:00AM

Football Wrote:
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> How will West Springfield be this season?


Same team that won patriot conf last year but better
Most returning starters back along with some transfers
Projected to go 8-2 in regular season and make a run in the playoffs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what will happen? ()
Date: July 31, 2015 10:27AM

In 5 years, whites will be a minority in Fairfax. Asians, Indians, Middle Easterners and Latins will dominate.

Asians and Indians will care about good grades.

Middle Easterners will care about good grades and commercial skills.

Latins will want to learn English.

So where does that leave football? Especially when budget problems make it necessary to halt turf upkeep.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: July 31, 2015 11:09AM

I love it when the Cville haters say the lost 18 starters!! You need to check out the videos. Of those so called starters for 15 games...Turner missed 9, Booze missed 6, Tutt missed 3, Love missed 4, Jordan Brooks missed several too....and they never all played together for a game. Yes all those guys will be missed including the other 3 year starters. From what I seen on film, kids that started at sometime during the season, due to injuries, matchups, etc...are , Richbourg(both sides), Newell, Gambone(both sides of the ball), Christian Brooks, Caleb Brooks, Horner, Lee, Simmons, Simpao....The Fact is that Cville did lose a ton of talent and more than likely will not defend its regional championship. It doesn't happen very often to see a team like they have had the last few seasons.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football ()
Date: July 31, 2015 11:59AM

Sleeper field Wrote:
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> Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will West Springfield be this season?
>
>
> Same team that won patriot conf last year but
> better
> Most returning starters back along with some
> transfers
> Projected to go 8-2 in regular season and make a
> run in the playoffs

What transfers?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sleeper field ()
Date: July 31, 2015 12:28PM

Gotta keep details on spartan transfers a secret to maintain WSHS underdog and sleeper status
You will figure it out soon in the preseason

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebels? ()
Date: July 31, 2015 12:43PM

What do teams like fairfax, Langley, and McLean return? All three teams mostly senior based

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nKnMN ()
Date: July 31, 2015 12:51PM

nufan Wrote:
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> I love it when the Cville haters say the lost 18
> starters!! You need to check out the videos. Of
> those so called starters for 15 games...Turner
> missed 9, Booze missed 6, Tutt missed 3, Love
> missed 4, Jordan Brooks missed several too....and
> they never all played together for a game. Yes all
> those guys will be missed including the other 3
> year starters. From what I seen on film, kids that
> started at sometime during the season, due to
> injuries, matchups, etc...are , Richbourg(both
> sides), Newell, Gambone(both sides of the ball),
> Christian Brooks, Caleb Brooks, Horner, Lee,
> Simmons, Simpao....The Fact is that Cville did
> lose a ton of talent and more than likely will not
> defend its regional championship. It doesn't
> happen very often to see a team like they have had
> the last few seasons.

Relax, Centreville will do just fine. No doubt they will be contenders for region champship.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Assistant Coach ()
Date: July 31, 2015 12:58PM

WkWuH Wrote:
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> So based on the below, if Hayfield better of with
> him over Coach Hill - never heard these kind of
> complaints about Roy?
>
> Hendoroid Wrote:
> >
> > Its not so much that we "hate Hendo" it's that
> his
> > lying, cheating, stealing, ego manic, was once
> > FIRED and should have stayed FIRED ways piss us
> > off. He's a fat fuck, with an out of control
> ego.
> > OK play caller, just should never open his
> mouth
> > or be an example for kids.


Coach Roy Hill is a gentleman, a man of character who sets an example for young him to emulate. A VMI graduate no less.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebel dad ()
Date: July 31, 2015 01:07PM

Fairfax lost the most starters to adjust their power ratings down.
They are projected to win 2 games
Langley is returning about 11 starters and is in a better position to win 5 games.
McLean lost more starters than returning and is projected to win 3 games.
Hayfield and Yorktown are the favorites to win the conference.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am worried sick ()
Date: July 31, 2015 01:14PM

I am worried about Centreville, 15-0 two years ago, 12-3 one year ago, domination of Northern Region for 3 of last 4 years, I am worried that maybe they will only go about 8-2 this year regular season and only compete for another Northern Region championship with perhaps Westfield, Braddock SOCO, maybe West Springfield. I am worried that they may only be one of the top 4-5 Northern Region programs yet again with a reasonable chance to go all the way. I am worried.....wish I thought only about Marshall or Mt Vernon so I knew exactly what would happen every year and did not have to worry....


Signed, Mr. Worry Wart

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What if? ()
Date: July 31, 2015 01:59PM

If the 2014 Centreville team played the 2015 Centreville team then the 2014 team is favored to win 55% of the time
So the current centreville team is worse but now they will only beat teams by 27 points instead of 30

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: speculators pay no mind ()
Date: July 31, 2015 02:27PM

Does not matter about Cville as this will be the year of the Stallions. SOCO beats Westfield 28-21 in the NR finals. GO SOCO!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who carez ()
Date: July 31, 2015 03:12PM

Does not matter who wins in the North as the cheaters in the South will rig it so they can win the states.....rampant cheating down there, look at what happened to last year's "winner" Ocean Lakes if you do not believe me sucka

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cheataz never posper ()
Date: July 31, 2015 04:51PM

momma always said cheataz never posper cheataz never prosper

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: South lakes ()
Date: July 31, 2015 08:35PM

I like South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: August 01, 2015 09:45AM

What if? Wrote:
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> If the 2014 Centreville team played the 2015
> Centreville team then the 2014 team is favored to
> win 55% of the time
> So the current centreville team is worse but now
> they will only beat teams by 27 points instead of
> 30


No, if 2014 Centreville played 2015 Centreville while healthy, 2014 Centreville would win 100% of the team. 2015 Centreville lost multiple players to college.

That being said, I feel like this is becoming too commonplace with me, but I feel comfortable predicting Westfield and Centreville as the top 2 teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Downton Abby ()
Date: August 01, 2015 04:05PM

Steve K2,

pardon me a-hole, do you have any grey poupon?

Give me a effing break...its beneath you to post on Fairfaxcounty underground

Where do the upper crust HS football bloggers like you go to post their predictions?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Turfhead ()
Date: August 03, 2015 09:04AM

what will happen? Wrote:
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> In 5 years, whites will be a minority in Fairfax.
> Asians, Indians, Middle Easterners and Latins will
> dominate.
>
> Asians and Indians will care about good grades.
>
> Middle Easterners will care about good grades and
> commercial skills.
>
> Latins will want to learn English.
>
> So where does that leave football? Especially when
> budget problems make it necessary to halt turf
> upkeep.

you DO know that football is not the only sport that plays on the rectangular fields, right?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: August 05, 2015 07:28PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: slhssssss ()
Date: August 05, 2015 08:38PM

Capt. Morgan Wrote:
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> Traditionally SL hasn't been a very strong program
> at least not in football (can't speak to other
> sports). I think that there's a good chance with
> the right coaching they could be pretty good,
> there are some good athletes in the Reston area,
> but I don't know about major noise yet.


Freshmen team was really good last year at SLHS, this years has a few good players I think they are building into a decent team in a year or two its just getting enough kids on . THey need more depth

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Allmets ()
Date: August 06, 2015 07:48AM

@brandoncparker: Was at West Springfield this AM. Spartans surprised some last year but with 9 back on offense, secret's out #allmets http://t.co/zFg4cemZka

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: August 06, 2015 08:34AM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spartans ()
Date: August 06, 2015 01:33PM

The LB returning starters are irrelevant because the Spartans have the better team and Braddock knows it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Could it happen here? ()
Date: August 06, 2015 02:22PM

Raping football players protected by school, but hackers intervene for the victim:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Could it happen here????? ()
Date: August 06, 2015 02:26PM

Math teacher rapes student. Are math teachers safe? Why did math cause this?

http://www.news-star.com/article/20150617/NEWS/150619759

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: August 06, 2015 10:29PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spartan4life ()
Date: August 07, 2015 07:00PM

Can't wait for WSHS first game vs Robinson. We haven't had this much talent in years. The Rams are in trouble. 42-7 WSHS!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VHSL Conference District ()
Date: August 07, 2015 08:39PM

I don't understand how the VHSL Districts and Conferences work.

Why is the "National District":
Edison (Conf. 13)
Falls Church (Conf. 13)
TJ (Conf. 13)
Marshall (Conf. 13)
Mount Vernon (Conf. 7)
Stuart (Conf. 13)
Wakefield (Conf. 13)

but Mount Vernon is in Conference 7 with teams that comprise the "Patriot District"?
Annandale (Conf.7)
Lake Braddock (Conf. 7)
Lee (Conf. 13)
South County (Conf. 7)
West Potomac (Conf. 7)
West Springfield (Conf. 7)
T.C. Williams (Conf. 7)
Woodson (Conf. 7)

Except for Lee which is in the "Patriot District" but in Conference 13 (with the other National District teams).

What function do Districts serve as opposed to Conferences? If it is 6A vs. 5A why not simply switch Mount Vernon and Lee.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region ()
Date: August 07, 2015 09:59PM

I was on here last winter and said WS qb was the next best qb the region has generated and there were some doubters. With a deep playoff run he'll probably earn a scholarship. The kid is pretty good

Westfields and centreville are still the teams to beat. They have owned the region since LB's run about 5 years ago. LB , SC and WS are probably poised to challenge them this year. However in two games LB couldn't figure out WS defense and the youth on WS offense kept the games close. WS offense maybe explosive this year so it should be interesting. SC usually fizzles out by the time November comes around. Not sure if patriot can keep up with the physical teams and battlefield may not be good enough defensively. It's going to be an exciting fall in the northern region

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BisonBrawl ()
Date: August 08, 2015 01:11PM

West Springfield??

They beat who last year???

West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a losing one taking over for another losing one....

Annandale??? they just swim against a current of dissolving talent in their community and I think drowned years ago

Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3 other players in a game that requires 22.

TC Williams??? They were on their fired coaches last run and boy were they awful

Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and will continue to amuse

W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who couldn't make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc?? what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out either...

Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state circle?? please....

Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid who had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was in 10th grade.

and last I checked LB won the one that mattered....

so if beating all the bad teams you play and losing to all the good teams you play is a great season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like boys in tight pants ()
Date: August 08, 2015 03:32PM

I go to games just for fun.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Buffalo ()
Date: August 08, 2015 05:23PM

BisonBrawl Wrote:
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> West Springfield??
>
> They beat who last year???
>
> West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a losing
> one taking over for another losing one....
>
> Annandale??? they just swim against a current of
> dissolving talent in their community and I think
> drowned years ago
>
> Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired
> coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3
> other players in a game that requires 22.
>
> TC Williams??? They were on their fired coaches
> last run and boy were they awful
>
> Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and
> will continue to amuse
>
> W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who couldn't
> make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc??
> what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out
> either...
>
> Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state
> circle?? please....
>
> Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to
> their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid who
> had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU
> recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh
> yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was in
> 10th grade.
>
> and last I checked LB won the one that
> mattered....
>
> so if beating all the bad teams you play and
> losing to all the good teams you play is a great
> season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?

BisonBrawl
Dropped on his head as a baby
Mom left him in a hot car
Molested by his uncle
Cut from every team he tried out for
Probably a redskins fan
The type of loser that will go to a movie to shoot people
Transgender a hole that only posts negative stuff online
Wont post anything about his team because he knows they suck and cant have low expectations of winning.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: August 08, 2015 05:56PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock returning 15 starters from a 10-3
> squad:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insi
> der/wp/2015/08/05/camp-countdown-2015-lake-braddoc
> k-bruins/

Watch Key LB player Mansaray when punt lands on his head:
https://twitter.com/Mansaray20/status/595361815871107072

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jim Poythress ()
Date: August 08, 2015 06:40PM

Blocking will be key for the Bruins. Our inability to run has doomed us in playoffs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: have some guuuuts ()
Date: August 09, 2015 09:07AM

BisonBrawl Wrote:
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> West Springfield??
>
> They beat who last year???
>
> West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a losing
> one taking over for another losing one....
>
> Annandale??? they just swim against a current of
> dissolving talent in their community and I think
> drowned years ago
>
> Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired
> coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3
> other players in a game that requires 22.
>
> TC Williams??? They were on their fired coaches
> last run and boy were they awful
>
> Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and
> will continue to amuse
>
> W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who couldn't
> make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc??
> what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out
> either...
>
> Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state
> circle?? please....
>
> Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to
> their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid who
> had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU
> recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh
> yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was in
> 10th grade.
>
> and last I checked LB won the one that
> mattered....
>
> so if beating all the bad teams you play and
> losing to all the good teams you play is a great
> season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?


This post makes no sense and is full of lies and maliciousness. Didn't WS beat W-L in the playoffs? Half the teams you mention are actually good teams and most of them, with the exception of Edison, Woodson, Lee, TC, and Annandale have made the playoffs most of the last five years or so. And even though the cards are stacked against Annandale, after its middle class neighborhoods and athletes were redistricted to Lake Braddock and Woodson, the school will hopefully build on last year's success. I predict a respectable 8-3 season for the Atoms with a playoff appearance.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Atom Ant ()
Date: August 10, 2015 09:55AM

have some guuuuts Wrote:
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> BisonBrawl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > West Springfield??
> >
> > They beat who last year???
> >
> > West Potomac??? They had a new coach and a
> losing
> > one taking over for another losing one....
> >
> > Annandale??? they just swim against a current
> of
> > dissolving talent in their community and I
> think
> > drowned years ago
> >
> > Lee??? They were on the last year of a fired
> > coaches run playing with 2 linemen and maybe 3
> > other players in a game that requires 22.
> >
> > TC Williams??? They were on their fired
> coaches
> > last run and boy were they awful
> >
> > Woodson??? They have been a joke for YEARS and
> > will continue to amuse
> >
> > W-L ??? A bad team in a bad district who
> couldn't
> > make the playoffs playing FC, MV, Stuart...etc??
>
> > what a joke.. and WS didn't blow them out
> > either...
> >
> > Edison??? maybe the worst team in a 5 state
> > circle?? please....
> >
> > Lake Braddock??? They SUCKED in comparison to
> > their last 10 years, the QB was a coaches kid
> who
> > had tennis elbow or something going on, the OSU
> > recruit was done caring about hs sports, and oh
> > yeah they had NOBODY ELSE as their talent was
> in
> > 10th grade.
> >
> > and last I checked LB won the one that
> > mattered....
> >
> > so if beating all the bad teams you play and
> > losing to all the good teams you play is a
> great
> > season worthy of mention.... I guess enjoy?
>
>
> This post makes no sense and is full of lies and
> maliciousness. Didn't WS beat W-L in the playoffs?
> Half the teams you mention are actually good teams
> and most of them, with the exception of Edison,
> Woodson, Lee, TC, and Annandale have made the
> playoffs most of the last five years or so. And
> even though the cards are stacked against
> Annandale, after its middle class neighborhoods
> and athletes were redistricted to Lake Braddock
> and Woodson, the school will hopefully build on
> last year's success. I predict a respectable 8-3
> season for the Atoms with a playoff appearance.

Not a chance, unless they bring that running back for a 5th year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mr Edwards ()
Date: August 10, 2015 11:02AM

LB QB Kyle Edwards post game celebration after dropping 7 TDs in first week vs R.E. Lee.

https://vine.co/v/OvLXbIHnmxL

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Guts ()
Date: August 10, 2015 11:07AM

LB will go 7-3 for the season and no farther than 2d round in playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bull dawgs ()
Date: August 10, 2015 10:02PM

All I know is that Westfield will kick Centerville's ass this year, yeah baby

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielder ()
Date: August 11, 2015 10:39AM

I agree, this is the year for Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 11, 2015 11:07AM

You said that last year. But they should win this year. No excuses!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cats ()
Date: August 11, 2015 12:56PM

Cville wins 28-24 this year and will probably beat them again in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All bark no bite ()
Date: August 11, 2015 02:50PM

SC returning senior RB #22 Michele Williams is comforted by her o line after they lost in the playoffs last year.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield is bestest ()
Date: August 11, 2015 07:17PM

Westfield will rock over everyone this year yipppppppeeeee

Jack and Tyler and all of them are soooooooo cute.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Bestfield ()
Date: August 12, 2015 05:02PM

Check the weekly predicted Gilliam Ratings out at

http://www.gilliamratings.com/2015-week-2-predictions.html

Westfield is favorite vs Washington-Lee

47 - 3

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DCnhw ()
Date: August 12, 2015 06:23PM

Not sure whether you are trying to insult SC, or insult girls - but regardless, that pic is of a cheerleader in an away jersey



All bark no bite Wrote:
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> SC returning senior RB #22 Michele Williams is
> comforted by her o line after they lost in the
> playoffs last year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield is a lock ()
Date: August 12, 2015 08:42PM

Westfield will go to the state championship this year, count on it

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: caitlyn ()
Date: August 12, 2015 08:48PM

westfield is a lock Wrote:
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> Westfield will go to the state championship this
> year, count on it

________________________________________
o.k., there you have it. Westfield is the winner so lets just cancel the season and give them the trophy.
When will these morons learn their lesson that nothing is guaranteed.? Every tear, the same retards predict the future and are invariably wrong.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: this is the year yep ()
Date: August 12, 2015 09:17PM

Caitlyn, just face the facts, Westfield is loaded this year and will win it all. It is in the cards.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 04:21PM

Going to check out this scrimmage between Hayfield & Lake Braddock today.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 13, 2015 04:43PM

please give a report !!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 05:09PM

Final Score: LB 34 - Hayfield 28

Not as close as you would expect; Braddock let the JV team in and HF scored a couple in last quarter.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 13, 2015 06:01PM

THEY PLAY TONIGHT???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 07:24PM

sorry, I am a habitual liar

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't listen to him above me. ()
Date: August 13, 2015 08:40PM

Ignore that guy above me, he’s an imposter.

Sadly, I came 20 minutes late to the scrimmage. I was there for an 1 hour & ½ for the scrimmage.

Lake Braddock dominated the scrimmage (put up at least 4-5 touchdowns within the hour & ½ when I was there). Their running back is legit. Scored a couple of long TD runs on Hayfield's defense. Also, LB’s receiving core got TD’s as well (a few long TD passes). From what I’ve read, Lake Braddock returns most of the starters on offense and defense (at least 15 starters returned from last year, IIRC). I was more impressed with LB’s offense than their defense in this scrimmage (although, defensively they’ll be just fine). A saw some big hits from LB’s defense.

Hayfield did not get a TD at all from time period I was there (they may have gotten 1 or 2 TD’s before my arrival, possibly).

Offensively, Hayfield lost a lot of their talented playmakers (including their speedy QB, 2 all region WR’s) from last year. Also, their top RB was sitting out of the scrimmage. I guess that could be a reason for their offense not being that crisp like previous seasons. Although, Hayfield was able to get some long runs (especially from their QB) and receptions. Their QB definitely has potential (dual threat type). Conversely (compared to LB) I was more impressed with Hayfield’s defense (they were able to make some good stops) than their offense. I believe Hayfield returned a lot of the defensive starters from last year (at least 7-8 guys are returning from their defensive squad).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:16PM

Don't listen to the guy just above I am the real Glizzy and I can prove it....I really was not at the scrimmage, I just like to dream about being at high school football scrimmages, in fact I sit at me desk all the day all year round thinking about how much fun it would be to go to a high school scrimmage.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:18PM

In fact my friends are setting up a Go Fund Me site so they can raise transportation money for me to actually fulfill my dream and really go to a high school football scrimmage one day. Will you help me?

Best regards,
Glizzy

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Go Glitzy Go ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:20PM

We will root for you Glitz, what is the link to the Go Fund Me site?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:21PM

It is Glizzy not Glitzy you ass wipe

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am the real Glizzy ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:22PM

I am and always will be Glizzy, I am Glitzy too

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Will the real slim shady please ()
Date: August 13, 2015 10:23PM

Will the real slim Glizzy please stand up, please stand up?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: August 14, 2015 12:55PM

Westfield does seem to be the pre-season media favorite to represent 6A North this year. But I don’t see any reason to believe anything will be different this season than the last four. They need to replace practically the entire offense and unless someone emerges they aren’t going to put up points like they did last year.

Sure they’ll be good and win a playoff game or two but I don’t see them getting past Lake Braddock/South County/Centreville this season.
I think Centreville is #1 in 6A North until someone unseats them. I mean c’mon - who on their schedule is going to beat them?

Annandale – easy win
Fairfax - easy win
Broad Run – tough game but a win
Tuscarora – win - tough game but Tuscarora is overrated this year
Lake Braddock – win – does anyone really think Braddock will beat Centreville?
Herndon - easy win
Oakton – easy win
Westfield - maybe a loss - only toss-up game on their schedule
Chantilly - easy win
Robinson – easy win - Robinson also overrated this year
So I look for 9-1 or 8-2 season if someone pulls an unlikely upset.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dick Adams Jr. ()
Date: August 14, 2015 01:58PM

Braddock destroyed Hay last night.They didn't have the JV team there only 33 players total. 4 players played the whole game. Not a fan of Braddock but they are the real deal, 1/2 of single wing and a 1/2 of empty spread. Poytress will F this up. O of the week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: dbfromnva ()
Date: August 14, 2015 02:34PM

Does anyone know the details of Centreville's scrimmages this year? I know they have played Annandale & Hylton the last few years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: August 14, 2015 03:22PM

Centreville scrimmages with Hylton on 8/20 @ 7:30pm in Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: just an observer ()
Date: August 14, 2015 05:33PM

Westfield does seem to be the pre-season media favorite to represent 6A North this year. But I don’t see any reason to believe anything will be different this season than the last four. They need to replace practically the entire offense and unless someone emerges they aren’t going to put up points like they did last year.

Sure they’ll be good and win a playoff game or two but I don’t see them getting past Lake Braddock/South County/Centreville this season.
I think Centreville is #1 in 6A North until someone unseats them. I mean c’mon - who on their schedule is going to beat them?

Annandale – easy win
Fairfax - easy win
Broad Run – tough game but a win
Tuscarora – win - tough game but Tuscarora is overrated this year
Lake Braddock – win – does anyone really think Braddock will beat Centreville?
Herndon - easy win
Oakton – easy win
Westfield - maybe a loss - only toss-up game on their schedule
Chantilly - easy win
Robinson – easy win - Robinson also overrated this year
So I look for 9-1 or 8-2 season if someone pulls an unlikely upset.

_______________________________________________________________________________

To answer your question Westfield had to replace the majority of the offense going into last season. They had on offense the QB, one OL, and the RB even though he played FB the year before.

This year they have two capable QB's, the biggest OL they've had in years, plenty of tall receivers, and a couple speedy/athletic RB's.

If you look the last 4 years or so there's been a different RB in the backfield with the same result.

Westfield's kicker is incredible, one of the top in the nation in his age group I believe.

Then there's the defense, 8 returning starters, and oh yeah, the majority of the special team guys are defensive players.

I also think you might be overlooking their schedule. Especially the Loudon County teams, they're not 6A but that's because that area is not as populated as Fairfax County yet.

I've also seen a trend in the Loudon County teams, they've got big boys each and every season.

Good luck with your prediction though!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 15, 2015 10:57AM

I think it starts at 7:00

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield winner ()
Date: August 15, 2015 04:57PM

Westfield is best this year and every year ok

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: whatevah ()
Date: August 15, 2015 06:22PM

Wuck Festfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield bulldawgs ()
Date: August 15, 2015 07:57PM

This is Westfield's year so naysayers can just go home.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco sux ()
Date: August 16, 2015 10:19AM

Westfield and SOCO will be in the NR Championship and they will then both lose

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Braddock sux ()
Date: August 17, 2015 11:00AM

and Lake Braddock will be right there with them finding a way to lose when it counts

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lake Braddock sucks ()
Date: August 17, 2015 02:19PM

Lake Braddock really sucks but look good
The o line and d line will give up if you just push them down
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just Sayin The Truth ()
Date: August 17, 2015 02:48PM

Poythress is probably the biggest scumbag coach in northern VA. He is universally despised by his fellow coaches around the area for the crap he pulls both on and off the field.

Too bad, the guy knows his stuff. But his regularly displayed poor character is such a bad example to the student athletes that he should never be allowed to coach.

He sends all the wrong life messages to his players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: charades and skits ()
Date: August 17, 2015 03:42PM

Just Sayin The Truth Wrote:
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> Poythress is probably the biggest scumbag coach in
> northern VA. He is universally despised by his
> fellow coaches around the area for the crap he
> pulls both on and off the field.
>
> Too bad, the guy knows his stuff. But his
> regularly displayed poor character is such a bad
> example to the student athletes that he should
> never be allowed to coach.
>
> He sends all the wrong life messages to his
> players.
____________________________________________________
Like what? If you're going to attack someone's character, at least be man enough to back it up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: he promises too much ()
Date: August 17, 2015 03:46PM

he promises popsicles after hot practices in the summertime and then fails to deliver.....bad bad man

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nottruenotrue ()
Date: August 17, 2015 04:29PM

Stupid. He's a pretty respected coach - been there since 2004. Don't last that long without some respect. 86-40 record at LB. State runner-up in 2009 and won Redskins High School Coach of the Year award. He's a little quirky but who isn't. Isn't supposed to be a popularity contest anyway.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LBLUV ()
Date: August 17, 2015 05:17PM

We love Coach P. 2 families moved into million dollar homes and you said he recruited. I guess he bought the homes. LB has zero apartments so recruiting is impossible. The guy took a terrible program and turned it into a regional power. 6 straight district titles speak for themselves.
Quirky ? Maybe but not scum. You must be mad he whipped you tail. You never hear Coach cry when he gets beat. maybe you are one of the coaches he let go. Ax to grind. Maybe you should introduce yourself instead of taking shots here. I got the old man beating most coaches in the region in a brawl. Who you going with?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just Sayin The Truth ()
Date: August 17, 2015 05:20PM

OK....I will give you one or two.

He was up in a playoff game by 30 points and called time out with 3 seconds left in the game just to kick another field goal.

That's just plain BS that some states suspend a coach for doing.

I witnessed him during a summer 7v7 tournament, after being questioned by another head coach with respect to his players undercutting receivers, telling that NoVa Head Coach, "Grow a pair".

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LBLUV ()
Date: August 17, 2015 05:39PM

FG against what team? Complete fabrication. You are a real puss. P takes rich spoiled kids and gets them to play hard. Tell us what school you support "just saying". Probably a soft crew is my guess. Hide on the board. Who was this FG against???Who bitch?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TheREALtruth ()
Date: August 17, 2015 06:48PM

You must be hating on the other "coach P" my friend, as in Cosch Panonni at South County. That man onside kicks vs 0-10 Mount Vernon every year and you say nothing on this thread cause he's never won anything. Pathetic.......and if you complain about 7v7 why don't you contact your sons DC and get them to stop a passing attack.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just Sayin The truth ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:00PM

I knew this was a mistake to talk to FU folks about this.

I played major college football and my son played college major college football as well. I know what I'm talking about.

You guys just live in your little bubble, but what he teaches is waaaay outside the box and Poythress is the lowest of the low.

Just sayin the truth. Wish it wasn't so because he is otherwise a heckuva coach.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I wuv you you wuv me ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:01PM

Poythress, Pannoni are both big zeros - nothing to show for anything.....only true regional powers in 6A are Centreville and Westfield (although Bdogs need to pick things back up after the last few years of always losing in regional finals)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: this is about to change ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:07PM

SCREW CVILLE AND WFIELD>>>>>>>IT ALL CHANGES THIS YEAR AS I BET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT LB, SOCO, OR WSpringfield take the Northern region.....!!!!

Read it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concordedistrict+ ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:22PM

Woah. Let's look at the last 5 years of PLAYOFF results between the Centreville/Westfield vs. LB/SoCo/WS:

2011: Centreville 21 – Lake Braddock 18
2012: Westfield 49 – West Springfield 7
2013: Westfield 19 – Lake Braddock 16
2013: Centreville 55 – South County 35
2014: Westfield 42 – Lake Braddock 20

That's pretty decisive. What makes you think this year will be different?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde sux ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:31PM

Concorde is on the way down

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concordedistrict+ ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:32PM

concorde sux Wrote:
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> Concorde is on the way down

Been hearing that for years

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: foolzzzz ()
Date: August 17, 2015 07:35PM

Concorde and especially Cv and WF have ruled and likely will continue to rule

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mr Major college ()
Date: August 17, 2015 08:31PM

Mr. Major College,
Where did you play? Where did your son play? How would you know what Coach P teaches? All fair questions. And, when was this FG you spoke about with LB up 30.
A major college baller wouldn't hide on the underground. You should talk to P face to face but you won't cause you are the one in a little bubble. IF you are the tough guy you claim to be where did you play? Oh, and last I checked all these major college guys cheat and run up the score.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I played yeah ()
Date: August 18, 2015 01:15PM

I played at University of Phoenix, does that count?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oh yep Phoenix ()
Date: August 18, 2015 02:32PM

The Harvard of the online schools

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO AND BRAD DOCK ()
Date: August 18, 2015 10:18PM

SOCO and Braddock both six

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tVv4d ()
Date: August 19, 2015 11:05AM

Virginia State Championships in last 30 years (since 1995):

Concorde District - 8
Centreville: 2 (2000, 2013)
Chantilly: 1 (1996)
Herndon: 0
Robinson: 2 (1997, 2001)
Oakton: 1 (2005)
Westfield: 2 (2003, 2007)


Patriot District - 0

Discuss.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Math is fun ()
Date: August 19, 2015 11:24AM

"Virginia State Championships in last 30 years (since 1995)"

It's been 20 years since 1995 Einstein.

Discuss.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PVmtW ()
Date: August 19, 2015 12:00PM

Well, you conveniently started your time frame at a point where it leaves out Annandale's titles... and I believe Robinson was Patriot district in 1997... can't remember which year they switched. Before the Concorde, they were in the same district as LB, WS, Annandale, WP, TC, etc

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: kpVXU ()
Date: August 19, 2015 12:07PM

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/mastergames_byyear_byteam.cfm?ID=10445&GY=2001

In fact, VHSL lists Robinson as Patriot District in 2001 as well...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MtXYx ()
Date: August 19, 2015 12:13PM

tVv4d Wrote:
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> Virginia State Championships in last 30 years
> (since 1995):
>
> Concorde District - 8
> Centreville: 2 (2000, 2013)
> Chantilly: 1 (1996)
> Herndon: 0
> Robinson: 2 (1997, 2001)
> Oakton: 1 (2005)
> Westfield: 2 (2003, 2007)
>
>
> Patriot District - 0
>
> Discuss.


So, if you are willing to go back 2 more years, we have:

Patriot titles - 4 (Annandale x2, Robinson x2)
Concorde titles - 6

Discuss...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tVv4d ()
Date: August 19, 2015 12:56PM

Excellent. This is exactly the sort of wrangling I was hoping for.

My pre-season ranking of Concorde/Patriot

1. Centreville
2. Westfield
3. Lake Braddock
4. South County
5. West Springfield
6. Robinson
7. Chantilly
8. Oakton
9. West Potomac
10. Herndon
11. T.C. Williams
12. W.T. Woodson
13. Lee

Discuss.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Locki ()
Date: August 19, 2015 01:16PM

Lee is in Conference 13 now, the old National District.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tVv4d ()
Date: August 19, 2015 01:34PM

Locki Wrote:
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> Lee is in Conference 13 now, the old National
> District.

Lee is in the Patriot DISTRICT, but also in CONFERENCE 13. Lee is NOT in the National DISTRICT.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Fan ()
Date: August 19, 2015 04:00PM

There is no such thing as a district anymore. No Patriot District, no National District. Check out the VHSL web site. Lee is in the Capitol Conference, conference 13. Yes, most of the teams are from the old National District. Such as Edison, Falls Church, Stuart and Wakefield remain. Jefferson, Marshall and Lee are in Conf. 13. Mt. Vernon moves up to D6 this year and doesn't play a C 13 schedule.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oh Well ()
Date: August 19, 2015 04:08PM

VHSL has made a total mess of all sports. They have destroyed old rivalries and made a total mockery of basketball.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Fan ()
Date: August 19, 2015 04:22PM

Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of things. I will correct myself in that the VHSL web site still lists districts. But I don't know why. Lee, for example still shows in the Patriot District but is the only D5 team and only the total season really counts for them for getting into the playoffs. They could lose every game against their old Patriot District opponents, but still can get into the playoffs with a losing record (which they've done). It's called power points. So effectively the designation of District is useless.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: annandale1972 ()
Date: August 19, 2015 07:04PM

Annandale State Champs 1972
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: God loves us ()
Date: August 21, 2015 09:13AM

even footballers

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fairfax 74 ()
Date: August 21, 2015 09:45AM

Ah yes Annandale Football...........

I played at Fairfax in 1973 and played against Hardage and his boys Mike Lucido, Dick Adams, Dale Babione, etc. The stadium at Annandale HS is still one of my faves.

Behing that crazy man Coach Dick Claypool, we beat Annandale 12-0 on a very cold night in November on that field. Anyone who played in that game will never forget it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cameraman ()
Date: August 22, 2015 10:20AM

Lake Braddock 21
Good Counsel 21

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: data sector one ()
Date: August 22, 2015 11:54AM

DeMatha 35
Westfield 0

might have even been worse I left early

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 22, 2015 12:03PM

Alababamas JV squad did what it was supposed to do. Last year it was 54 to zip.. It's still Centreville and Westfield in Northern Region until Soco and or Braddock nut up!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lake Braddock ()
Date: August 22, 2015 12:19PM

LBHS football...no nuts just butts
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: data sector one ()
Date: August 22, 2015 12:35PM

Yes DeMatha is Alabama JV squad but I saw some other weaknesses in Westfield. Offense not nearly dynamic as thought and who will play QB. Senior Scanlon more seasoned but sort of miscast as QB instead of WR, the junior kid (sorry do not know name) looks talented but perhaps not ready to take the reins. Defense will be solid but I don't think LB, SOCO, CVILLE, etc. should think at this point that Westfield has the Northern Region wrapped up. Think it will be a competitive year. Then whoever wins out will go to Charlottesville and get beat again by Ocean Lakes since they cheat - if you don't believe me just do a google search on Ocean Lakes football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO SUX ()
Date: August 22, 2015 12:51PM

SOCO does not know how to nut up

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 22, 2015 12:57PM

Westfield is doing what they have been experimenting with for the last few years, flirting with being a pass first team. On paper it looks great, reality Pearson (who didn't play) needs to line up behind a competent fullback and do what they do best, run between the tackles...which will open up the passing game...Scanlon looks the part, questionable if he is the guy at QB, Johnson a better athlete at QB but still raw. A lot of good film out of last night. Westfield will make the adjustments as they always do...and they won't see the same caliber of talent again this year unless they make it to Charlottesville and "cheating" Ocean Lakes!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: data sector one ()
Date: August 22, 2015 01:16PM

So what about SOCO, LB, CVILLE, Others this year....why or why not will they beat out Westfield for the NR crown? Seems like a lot of uncertainty this year as compared to previous when it was clear who the best team was going in....just an outside perspective.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Athletic booster ()
Date: August 22, 2015 02:11PM

Oh Well Wrote:
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> VHSL has made a total mess of all sports. They
> have destroyed old rivalries and made a total
> mockery of basketball.


I agree, but at least the new Liberty Conference 6 is similar to the old Great Falls District, or whatever it was called back in the 80s and early 90s. With the exception of Hayfield all the schools are geographically close, about the same size, and former/current rivals.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2015 02:14PM

Heard Robinson got beat by Osbourn last night. Could be long year for the rams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 22, 2015 03:36PM

Socorro has some talent, catching Westfield early could be the break they need...a lot of parity, including the Loudon County Schools...Briar Woods, Stone Bridge etc...will catch a few of the Div 6 schools...Centreville looked under sized, not as quick and no where near as deep at Linebacker as the last few years...Still the team to beat...Hylton clearly has not studied much film on the double wing, choosing to allow their athleticism to carry them it didn't work considering Ricky Slade didn't even Dress, LB will catch a few teams early with the spread however the better teams always make the adjustments...there might be a suprise or two...but it will still be the same cast of characters late in November

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Osbourn Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2015 03:38PM

Robinson fumbled and turned the ball over at least 6 times which is not going to help if they are playing "playoff" caliber teams. They don't have the size and speed in the past for their run game. Will be a challenging year for the rams if they don't pull something out.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2015 04:49PM

SoCo will win their conference, make the playoffs and be home before Christmas in time to sit in Santa's lap again this year.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Break requested ()
Date: August 22, 2015 04:58PM

Seriously! This is even less interesting than Ashley Edison!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: eff ewe too ()
Date: August 22, 2015 05:46PM

eff ewe we can talk about whatever, this is a free forum

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: August 22, 2015 11:14PM

A Fan Wrote:
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> Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of things.
> I will correct myself in that the VHSL web site
> still lists districts. But I don't know why. Lee,
> for example still shows in the Patriot District
> but is the only D5 team and only the total season
> really counts for them for getting into the
> playoffs. They could lose every game against their
> old Patriot District opponents, but still can get
> into the playoffs with a losing record (which
> they've done). It's called power points. So
> effectively the designation of District is
> useless.

Districts still exist but the "Old Northern Region" got permission to schedule by conference instead. In other parts of the state conferences have no meaning in football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: it's simple really ()
Date: August 23, 2015 01:18AM

football observer Wrote:
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> A Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let me concur that VHSL has made a mess of
> things.
> > I will correct myself in that the VHSL web
> site
> > still lists districts. But I don't know why.
> Lee,
> > for example still shows in the Patriot District
> > but is the only D5 team and only the total
> season
> > really counts for them for getting into the
> > playoffs. They could lose every game against
> their
> > old Patriot District opponents, but still can
> get
> > into the playoffs with a losing record (which
> > they've done). It's called power points. So
> > effectively the designation of District is
> > useless.
>
> Districts still exist but the "Old Northern
> Region" got permission to schedule by conference
> instead. In other parts of the state conferences
> have no meaning in football.

The districts still exist in the old Northern Region, but not with the same schools as before. DSA's/AD's wanted the conferences to align with the districts, i.e. the same schools. But Lee and Mount Vernon somehow got screwed. So Lee and Mount Vernon will not play all of their conference opponents in the regular season because they play different district opponents.

Also, as of this year high schools in the old Northern Region will only honor Conference champions. There will no longer be "district champions."

There is a pdf buried deep within the vhsl site that shows the districts and conferences for all high schools for the next two years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Al Bundy ()
Date: August 23, 2015 08:31AM

Someone will win. No one will care.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Week 1 Predictions ()
Date: August 23, 2015 10:17AM

Week 1 predictions for the top 6A NOVA teams

Westfield 42 - W. Lee 7
Lake Braddock 42 - R.E Lee 18
South County 31 - Briar Woods 28
Hylton 42 - Osbourn 14
Centreville 49 - Annandale 10
Battlefield 42 - Gar-Field 14
West Springfield 31 - Robinson - 14
Patriot 38 - Forest Park 30
Chantilly 38 - Woodson 10
Hayfield 35 - Thomas Edison 15

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: oh yeah ok ()
Date: August 23, 2015 11:42AM

All good except Briar Woods beats South County in an upset - read it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SC Fan ()
Date: August 23, 2015 11:49AM

SC wins by 14 points easy - Read it and weep sucker

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: oh yeah ok ()
Date: August 23, 2015 01:13PM

Oh yes, that SOCO team, the one that has been a sure bet in its history always winning when it should and always taking trips to Charlottesville. I will bet the house on them all year long....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: scrue ya boyzzzzz ()
Date: August 23, 2015 02:11PM

Hey chomp on it....SOCO will prove the doubters wrong this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 23, 2015 06:15PM

Soco gets a taste of Big boy Football right upfront....Briarwoods has size upfront... Top threat with their TE no one seems to be able to cover.. Should be a true test for both and then Soco gets on the Road the next week to face Westfields....0-2 will help put things in perspective for them and help them get focused to finish 7 & 1 and maybe actually win a playoff game or two... Your also giving Chantilly to much credit over WT... They win by 7 if they win..Osbourn keeps it Close with Hylton as we'll.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FootMySock ()
Date: August 23, 2015 06:37PM

Football. That's the one with shinguards and cleats, right?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 23, 2015 10:23PM

Heard lake Braddock got smoked. Check out you tube. GC scored like six times.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nova down ()
Date: August 24, 2015 08:59AM

It will be a down year for NOVA football. No where near the talent this year like AJ Turner, Noah Reimers, AJ Alexander, and the like from past few years. Just part of the ups and down of high school football in this region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ah shut up ()
Date: August 24, 2015 09:11AM

NOVA will be just fine bud

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GC ()
Date: August 24, 2015 10:13AM

nufan Wrote:
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> Heard lake Braddock got smoked. Check out you
> tube. GC scored like six times.

Looks like GC only scores 4 times two off on int
Was LB playing their JV team or are they just weak?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 24, 2015 11:45AM

It's Good Council and Dematha folks. Don't worry about how Westfield/LB do in scrimmages. It would only be news if NOVA teams actually held their own. I remember watching a few Westfield/Dematha scrimmages from a few years ago when Westfield ended up 12-1. They still got run over bigtime in the the pre-season Dematha scrimmage. It was like watching them play a college football team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 24, 2015 12:08PM

I will need to review...if wrong I apologize to the LB dudes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 24, 2015 12:24PM

GC score 5 times.....3 runs, 1 pass, and another one(just saw the und of it)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: same ole shit ()
Date: August 24, 2015 01:16PM

same ole shit....Westfield is over-rated, so is Lake Braddock and South County. One of these teams might make it through Northern Region because the NR is down this year. I have no dog in the fight but I would watch out for Centreville as everyone seems to be totally dismissing them and West Springfield as they actually have a lot coming back. My point is there is no one real, dominant team such as Westfield from 8-10 years ago or Centreville from over the last few years that could be all but banked on. I do think though that a lot of teams do talk a lot of smack for having not really done anything big. Put it out on the field.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: r u kidding me ()
Date: August 24, 2015 01:26PM

West Springfield??? Don't think so!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Easy ()
Date: August 24, 2015 02:13PM

Based on West Springfields schedule, I don't see them loosing too many games. They have a lot of returners on offense and a lot of good defensive players this year. They will be a team to watch out for.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not kidding ()
Date: August 24, 2015 03:42PM

Spartans won the patriot conference last year in a tie.
They are a better team this year already and will challenge LB and SC.
It's early now to say but they have potential to make a deeper run in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon Man ()
Date: August 24, 2015 03:52PM

It's Good Council and Dematha folks. Don't worry about how Westfield/LB do in scrimmages. It would only be news if NOVA teams actually held their own. I remember watching a few Westfield/Dematha scrimmages from a few years ago when Westfield ended up 12-1. They still got run over bigtime in the the pre-season Dematha scrimmage. It was like watching them play a college football team.

___________________________________________________________________________

Umm, you realize Good Counsel and Dematha recruit, correct? If Westfield was able to recruit the best players from Northern Virginia, DC, and Maryland I'm pretty sure it would be different.

Hell, just if you took the best players from a few teams in 6A North and a few of the Loudon 5A North teams it would be a different story. But they don't and can't because it's a PUBLIC SCHOOL.

The purpose of the game each year is to have a measuring stick to see where their areas of weakness are on Westfield’s team. It also serves as a reality check to keep the players from suffering from the typical high school athlete swollen ego syndrome just because they play for a consistent winning program.

As a matter of fact, just to demonstrate the talent Dematha has one of their running backs and defensive ends who are underclassmen could step onto and play for most college teams. The Dematha coaching staff commented on the fact that this year’s team is probably the most talented they've had in some time.

So, it's pretty unfair to criticize Westfield for not having a strong showing because they're not competing on a level playing field. This was my 5th or 6th Dematha-Westfield scrimmage and it looked pretty much like the previous ones.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: August 24, 2015 03:56PM

You're a fool if you think teams like Cville and ocean lakes don't recruit.
Look at how many transfers they get.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 24, 2015 04:18PM

C'mon Man Wrote:
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> It's Good Council and Dematha folks. Don't worry
> about how Westfield/LB do in scrimmages. It would
> only be news if NOVA teams actually held their
> own. I remember watching a few Westfield/Dematha
> scrimmages from a few years ago when Westfield
> ended up 12-1. They still got run over bigtime in
> the the pre-season Dematha scrimmage. It was like
> watching them play a college football team.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _________________________
>
> Umm, you realize Good Counsel and Dematha recruit,
> correct? If Westfield was able to recruit the best
> players from Northern Virginia, DC, and Maryland
> I'm pretty sure it would be different.
>
> Hell, just if you took the best players from a few
> teams in 6A North and a few of the Loudon 5A North
> teams it would be a different story. But they
> don't and can't because it's a PUBLIC SCHOOL.
>
> The purpose of the game each year is to have a
> measuring stick to see where their areas of
> weakness are on Westfield’s team. It also serves
> as a reality check to keep the players from
> suffering from the typical high school athlete
> swollen ego syndrome just because they play for a
> consistent winning program.
>
> As a matter of fact, just to demonstrate the
> talent Dematha has one of their running backs and
> defensive ends who are underclassmen could step
> onto and play for most college teams. The Dematha
> coaching staff commented on the fact that this
> year’s team is probably the most talented
> they've had in some time.
>
> So, it's pretty unfair to criticize Westfield for
> not having a strong showing because they're not
> competing on a level playing field. This was my
> 5th or 6th Dematha-Westfield scrimmage and it
> looked pretty much like the previous ones.

I agree with you on all points. I don't know that I said anything different. My comment was not an attempt to criticize but just stating facts.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 24, 2015 04:34PM

same ole shit Wrote:
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> but I would watch out for Centreville
> as everyone seems to be totally dismissing them
>

I don't know what you are talking about. No one is dismissing them. Everyone of note has them in their pre-season Top 10 in the state.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: R u sure ()
Date: August 24, 2015 05:02PM

West Springfield gave up 13 touchdowns (92 points) to western branch in a scrimmage last week! QB is fast and has some talent but he is way too soft to survive the season both mentally and physically

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: U R sure ()
Date: August 24, 2015 05:34PM

R U sure,
You sound like a big authority on soft and weak boys.
Do you know Jared the sandwhich guy?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: August 24, 2015 05:53PM

RydellllRoad, I apologize, I did misread our comment, very sorry.

I've frequented this thread over the past couple years, have always known you to be very good in regard to your insight.

Guess I made a mistake in the text of your message, once again, please accept my apology.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 24, 2015 05:55PM

Didn't south co scrimmage them too?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spartan Pride ()
Date: August 24, 2015 06:20PM

West Springfield will beat Robinson by at least 4 TDs. Robinson couldn't even beat Osbourn in their scrimmage last week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: novawatcher91 ()
Date: August 24, 2015 06:28PM

I watched the you tube video, Good Counsel 5 TDs Braddock 3 TDs.
Looks like Braddock might be stronger then a lot of people thought.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballlcantwait ()
Date: August 24, 2015 06:33PM

up and coming is south lakes they beat oakton in a scrimmage but still a couple of years away from complete greatness they need more filler kids kids on the team ..... I think they will definatly be better then last year

I think oakton is going to have a bad year all the goods ones graduated It will be a rebuilding year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ahh the good ole days ()
Date: August 24, 2015 06:46PM

Oakton was decimated by the last redistricting. They no longer have the athletes to compete.

That said, I was at the scrimmage. South Lakes didn;t exactly win it. Oakton's QB was injured and they "won" it on second stringers.

I would have realistically called it a tie which is sad by Oakton's standards.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who said Cville recruits ()
Date: August 24, 2015 07:15PM

Ocean Lakes recruits - yes, take a look on the internet. But who said that Cville recruits? Proof????? No, Chad Wiggins was part of an exodus from a Prince William school Patriot High along with 5 others that year including one who went to Westfield. AJ Turner, no - he and his family moved up from Florida before he started his freshman year. Doubt Cville had people down in Florida encouraging them to move to Cville instead of anywhere else in NOVA.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 24, 2015 07:21PM

I didn't see the you tube videos of LB scoring. Must have been just a GC highlight show. Thx for the update.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 24, 2015 08:33PM

NOVA Recruits...nitwit, let's say I'm moving to the Washington Metropolitan area from any number of Football is king States like Texas, or Georgia etc...because I'm DOD or any other Alphabet agency and my kid is a football player...what are the odds I'm gonna plunk down $750K in Falls Church or Arlington..when that same $750k gets me a much bigger yard and another 1000sq. Feet in Centreville where depending on which side of 29 I drop Anchor I can play for either Westfield or Centreville....The Butt hurt SOCO Folks are the ones that need to get on the Base Commander about Transferring in some better Talent...what a waste of Belvoir!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: August 24, 2015 08:48PM

same ole shit....Westfield is over-rated, so is Lake Braddock and South County. One of these teams might make it through Northern Region because the NR is down this year. I have no dog in the fight but I would watch out for Centreville as everyone seems to be totally dismissing them and West Springfield as they actually have a lot coming back. My point is there is no one real, dominant team such as Westfield from 8-10 years ago or Centreville from over the last few years that could be all but banked on. I do think though that a lot of teams do talk a lot of smack for having not really done anything big. Put it out on the field.....

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How do you come up with the "Westfield is over-rated" comment? They've gone 47-7 over the past 4 years. They've been to 4 straight region championships, first 2 were Northern Region championships, last 2 were State Semi-Finals.

I don't think an "over-rated" program can boast stats like that. Say what you will but to call Westfield anything other than a solid program is a joke.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: same ole shit ()
Date: August 24, 2015 09:29PM

Not saying buster that Westfield is not a good program. Of course they and Cville have been the consistent class of Northern Region 6a football with pop ups by Lake Braddock, Oakton, Robinson, etc. from time to time. What I am saying is I have heard a lot of people say that Westfield is a lock this year to represent the NR. Not sure they are that good, some questions on offense, can be beat on defense by a speedy team (yes they are bruisers on D but not incredibly fast). We will see....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield chokies ()
Date: August 24, 2015 09:37PM

Westfield is a bunch of chokies. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cat Fan ()
Date: August 24, 2015 10:56PM

While the media doesn't seem to have picked up on it, AJ Turner's cousin is Christian Brooks, the rising Centreville senior who has already received a bunch of D1 offers. I would guess that if you are moving from Florida to the DC area, living close to your family and being in a program where the kids can play on the same team might ease the transition.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 24, 2015 11:21PM

Cat Fan Wrote:
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> While the media doesn't seem to have picked up on
> it, AJ Turner's cousin is Christian Brooks, the
> rising Centreville senior who has already received
> a bunch of D1 offers.

What are you talking about that the media hasn't picked up on it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insider/wp/2015/07/30/centreville-dl-christian-brooks-takes-growing-football-recruitment-in-stride/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insider/wp/2015/08/21/two-time-state-finalist-centreville-toes-line-between-reloading-and-rebuilding/

The Wildcats aren’t completely devoid of highly touted recruits. Senior defensive lineman Christian Brooks has racked up offers from Miami, Virginia and Vanderbilt, thanks to his versatility and effective blend of speed and power off the line.

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2015/aug/19/centreville-wildcats-arent-done-yet/

Once again leading Centreville defensively are linebacker Andre Horner and defensive lineman Christian Brooks (6 feet 5, 230 pounds). Brooks is the Wildcats’ biggest college prospect, with 15 scholarship offers to Division 1 schools.

https://virginiapreps.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=905&Year=2015
The defense sees the return of five starters including Division I defensive linemen Christian Brooks (2016) and Caleb Brooks (2017).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: August 25, 2015 08:27AM

Not saying buster that Westfield is not a good program. Of course they and Cville have been the consistent class of Northern Region 6a football with pop ups by Lake Braddock, Oakton, Robinson, etc. from time to time. What I am saying is I have heard a lot of people say that Westfield is a lock this year to represent the NR. Not sure they are that good, some questions on offense, can be beat on defense by a speedy team (yes they are bruisers on D but not incredibly fast). We will see....

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Offense will be fine, especially when Pearson and Monticue suit up. They're currently running an offense that's never been run at Westfield.

If it works great, if it doesn't I'm sure they'll revert back to the ground and pound. Every year it is the same old shit with Westfield, experiment in the preseason but stick with what's made them a consistent winner.

The defense has plenty of team speed, I hope you're not comparing the speed of Dematha's team with them. Westfield will not play a team with that type of speed all season.

Also, you'd have to get past the line of scrimmage in the run game to use any team speed opposing offenses might have. They will be stout, if you're referring to passing that will not be as easy.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Westfield adopt more blitzing when opponents go to the air. They certainly have to ability with their linebacker corps which should be their strength.

Last year in the regular season against Lake Braddock they did not blitz, Edwards had a good day. In the playoff game, Westfield blitzed on almost every down and racked up 8 sacks I believe, we know what happened to Lake Braddock's potent offense, it was 41-0 late when Westfield's scrubs went in.

But you're close when you say that Westfield shouldn't be thought as the clear cut favorite. Way too many talented teams in the area to say anyone of them is the king of the hill. That's why they play the game.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WildcatFan ()
Date: August 25, 2015 09:39AM

I'm a huge centreville fan and follower. I went to high school there. Trust me when I say this...Westfield optimizes what high school football should be. Do you realize what that school has done since opening? Yes, Centreville had a great run, but it was only two years. They will not be the same unbeatable force. Somehow, Westfield was the only team how challenged that rare group of talent, and Westfield did not nearly have the same talent on their roster. Their coaches are excellent, their program is top notch, and the students play the game the right way. If any other school have 4 straight northern region runner up trophies, it would be the greatest thing to ever happen to them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ah shucks go on ()
Date: August 25, 2015 09:45AM

I am NOT a Centreville fan but still think Westfield is a bunch of chokies.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yiahhtz ()
Date: August 25, 2015 10:17AM

I'm no Centreville fan either but I say wuck Festfield. Bunch a prima donnas.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Chantilly Chargerz ()
Date: August 25, 2015 10:46AM

AGREED. WESTFIELD IS POMPOUS.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Want free access ()
Date: August 25, 2015 01:03PM

Does anyone have access to post the 2015 game day preseason power poll?

If you post the pre season top 10 from game day magazine then maybe I can find a similar article from VA preps.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wha happen'd? ()
Date: August 25, 2015 05:53PM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Makers Mark ()
Date: June 18, 2015 06:55PM

This coming season may shape up to be very interesting indeed. For those who weren’t able to observe either of the Team Camps this month, Oakton's O- and D- Lines looked very strong, but their teamwork is what made them even more impressive so early in the pre-season. To correct an earlier post, last week, South Lakes appeared more dominated vs dominant. Enough said there. Robinson was able to hold their own against SL, but appeared to have a hard time closing holes made by Oakton’s O-line that allowed their QB and quick Backs to muscle through time and time again. Robinson’s offense had quite a bit of trouble executing against Oakton’s Defense as well… with their impressively quick DEs and DBs containing anything outside and down the field, and the combination of DTs and LB’s stopping almost everything within a yard of the LOS. It was obvious that Robinson was getting a bit frustrated... and it wasn’t the heat. Not sure what happened during the other Team Camps this week, but as of right now, my bet is on Oakton to dominate the Region.



Ahh the good ole days Wrote:
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> Oakton was decimated by the last redistricting.
> They no longer have the athletes to compete.
>
> That said, I was at the scrimmage. South Lakes
> didn;t exactly win it. Oakton's QB was injured and
> they "won" it on second stringers.
>
> I would have realistically called it a tie which
> is sad by Oakton's standards.


So in the span of two months Oakton football went from one posters bet to dominate the region to a tie in a scrimmage with SL? As Steve Spurrier would say, "not to good!"

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Undergrounder ()
Date: August 25, 2015 06:39PM

Can't say I would post a video of the other team scoring if I was a GC guy. Gotta keep the rich dads writing checks in Belgium happy..... Did some research and found a few LB kids highlights from the game. Saw enough to believe it was 5Tds to 3Tds in GC favor. If 35-21 is final score what does this mean?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Slight of foot ()
Date: August 25, 2015 06:41PM

Listen...here us the key to Beating Westfield...bank on it...if you have a kid on your team named A.J. Put him back to return kicks against them...guaranteed win...Delaney hit two knuckle Balls last year 1. Regular season A.J Alexander took it to the house LB won 2. Post Season A.J Turner took it to the House C-ville wins....unless Special teams Coach figures this s&&t out and has Delaney kick out of bounds to kids named A.J. It could be a long year for Wesfields!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VA Preps ()
Date: August 25, 2015 06:41PM

Concorde Contenders

Rod Johnson
VirginiaPreps.com Senior Editor

For the last half-decade or so, the Concorde District has essentially come down to the Centreville versus Westfield regular season contest and, in most years, the regional championship has been contested between the two programs.

Yet, the district has retained its reputation as the toughest in the state because the other programs in the Concorde are still tough to beat and, at any moment, they seem capable of rising up and taking over again, as they have in the past.

In 214, Chantilly (6-6), Oakton (6-5) and Robinson (6-5) hovered at, or just over, the .500 mark, but each is looking to make a leap this year.

HOW DO THE CONCORDE CONTENDERS LINE UP?

The Chantilly Chargers scored at a 19 points-per-game clip last season and they've got some playmakers in the huddle this year, but they lack experience bringing back only three of eleven starters.

The key to their attack this season likely lies in the performance of senior quarterback David Tamarro (pictured) who did a solid job in limited action last season including throwing for over 180 yards against Oakton in a loss.

He'll be looking to get the ball to athletes Korben Sparks and Marcus Trammell, both seniors. The former will be lined up outside as a wide receiver while the latter will work from the wing taking the ball on sweeps and counters when not pressing action down the field.

Up front, junior Sean Pogorelc will be relied upon to anchor the line of scrimmage while others develop.

While the offense tries to find their footing early in the season, the Chargers defense should be able to keep them in most games as they return a number of experienced players, especially along the line of scrimmage and in the secondary.

Up front, Hozey Haji-Badri returns after suffering a knee injury early in the 2014 campaign and the big man will join sophomore Dylan Menard giving the Chargers two scholarship level players along the line of scrimmage.

In the defensive backfield, seniors Garret Snedeker and Marcus Trammell return giving Coach Mike Lalli an experienced foundation in the secondary.

If the Chargers have a worry on defense, it will be at the linebacker spot where Lalli is not sure what he has outside of junior Conrad Pereira, a potential big-time playmaker.


The Oakton Cougars found themselves in a lot of low-scoring slugfests last season as they averaged just over 13 points per game last season, yet they still won half of their regular season games in large part because the defense limited seven of eleven opponents to 22 points or less.

The unit should be more productive this season as eight starters return to the offensive huddle including four of five linemen. Juniors Pierce Banbury and Tim Forster will form the nucleus of the group along with seniors Bennett Fagan, Mike Hemrich and Jaleel Denson.

Working behind that group is quarterback Sal Tutone, a senior who threw for over 1,000 yards last season. He'll be joined in the backfield by running back Patrick Francisco who will be backed by a trio of newcomers including seniors Chris Ivener, Eric Merten and junior Elias Lindsey.

But, for the big plays, Coach Jason Rowley will be looking for Tutone to hook up with wide receivers Jarret Bacon and Derrick Beale (pictured), both seniors. Bacon snagged 32 passes last season for over 400 yards and figures to be a bigger focal point this year.

"We feel like the offensive line will be our strength," says Rowley. "Also, we have some athleticism at our skilled positions, particularly at wide out. I think that we have a ton of potential."

Seven starters return on the defensive side of the ball including all four along the line of scrimmage where Rowley will open with seniors Matt Vogel, Patrick Davis, Dylan Cardelli and Will Fisher.

Working in the secondary behind the experienced line is a strong corps of defensive backs including senior returnees Derrick Beale, Jarrett Bacon and Nick Hart who will be joined by sophomore Jake Eagan.

Those two groups will sandwich an inexperienced linebacking corps returning no starters. Seniors Brian Jang and Justin Bartee will play alongside junior Chris Walton in the middle of the defense at least giving Rowley maturity, if not experience. "Our linebackers don't have a lot of varsity games under their belts," says Rowley. "Fortunately, they will have a veteran group in front of them and behind them in the secondary."

The group should make life easier for an offense looking to improve as Rowley says that he expects his defense to be one of the top units in the region.

In Scott Vossler's first year as the head coach of the Robinson Rams, things went well until the middle of October winning their first six games of the season including a 19-17 win over neighborhood rival Lake Braddock who finished 10-3 on the year.

The back half of the schedule was not as kind as injuries and stronger opponents resulted in the Rams dropping their final five games of the season with only one contest settled by fewer than 17 points.

Win or lose, the Rams play hard from whistle to whistle and bring a physical presence to the field every week and that won't change this season as Vossler brings an experienced bunch to the gridiron.

Seven starters come back on offense including junior quarterback Alex Miller and three big and talented running backs in Sean Foncha (5-11, 205), Da'Jon Lee (pictured, 6-2, 225) and Roman Lowery (6-0, 215). That gives the Rams a lot of versatility on offense as opposing coordinators will have to be prepared for any of the four to be the focal point of the offense on any given Friday. "Our back are big, strong and experienced. They will determine our success," says Vossler.

Naturally, they'll need help up front and the Rams bring back three guys along the line of scrimmage headed up by junior Nick Bernacchi, a potential scholarship player. He's joined by senior guard Lars Stevenson and tight end Mason Velasquez, a future college baseball player.

"I believe we have the potential to have a very strong offense," says Vossler. "Given what we have returning and our run-first mentality, we have the potential to put tremendous stress on our opponents."

The defense won't be quite as experienced as the offense but three players return to the front seven including defensive end Izzy Isreal, a senior, and linebackers Donnie Warter and Da'Jon Lee.

Along the line of scrimmage, senior Austin Jones will line up at the other defensive end spot while junior Grant Miller provides an anchor in the middle at tackle. "Our front seven has the potential to be strong and we should be athletic at the linebacker position," says Vossler.

If there is a concern for the defense, it comes in the form of a secondary returning no starters though junior Matt Oakley has promise. "We lost six of our top seven in the secondary due to graduation. We will be young and inexperienced on the back end, but we've got a few options back there. The development of those players will determine our success on defense."

The verdict:

All three programs are likely still chasing both Westfield and Centreville this season but each should at least earn a postseason appearance where anything can happen.

As if the Concorde District schedule was not already tough enough, NoVa schedule makers did none of the three a favor with out-of-district games this fall.

I like Chantilly to get off to a hot start likely winning at least three of their first four games and possibly losing only once in the first six games. With Oakton, Briar Woods, Centreville and Westfield sitting on the back half of the season, they will need to get wins early and develop their systems to be fully prepared for a rugged month. If they can pull a minor upset or two, they'll host a home playoff game in the first round.

Oakton has it even tougher with rival Madison, a rebuilding T.C. Williams, Tuscarora, Robinson and Westfield dotting the front half of the docket. Centreville, Chantilly, Broad Run, Falls Church and Herndon offer no respite in the second half.

The Cougars defense will have to be spectacular this fall. Even as their offense improves, it's unlikely that they will be highly explosive. To win, Oakton will likely have to collect low-scoring slugfest type victories which leave little margin for error. They'll win their share but they'll be the underdogs in most of their games.

Like Oakton, Robinson will have to win their share of low-scoring games, but their program is a bit more used to those type of affairs which should allow them a larger comfort zone.

The Rams could use another win over Lake Braddock to really kick start their season as they could potentially win each of their first five games this season. The back end will be a fight each week with Stone Bridge, Westfield, Herndon, Broad Run and Centreville making life tough.

The key for each team will be how they perform against the other two and each could use an upset or two in order to propel themselves into top of the region contention. On paper, it feels like each is a five- to seven-win team which means advancing deep into the postseason means road upsets.

Rod Johnson
VirginiaPreps.com Senior Editor

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alice Johnson ()
Date: August 25, 2015 06:56PM

Slight of foot Wrote:
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> Listen...here us the key to Beating
> Westfield...bank on it...if you have a kid on your
> team named A.J. Put him back to return kicks
> against them...guaranteed win...Delaney hit two
> knuckle Balls last year 1. Regular season A.J
> Alexander took it to the house LB won 2. Post
> Season A.J Turner took it to the House C-ville
> wins....unless Special teams Coach figures this
> s&&t out and has Delaney kick out of bounds to
> kids named A.J. It could be a long year for
> Wesfields!

What if I'm a fast girl who runs track?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Baba ()
Date: August 25, 2015 07:01PM

Who will be the dark horse of conference 7 (liberty)? Madison or fairfax

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stra ()
Date: August 25, 2015 07:03PM

Oakton will not hang no doubt. Robinson will succeed and chantilly will fight

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hm ()
Date: August 25, 2015 07:03PM

It's all about cville baby!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Slight of foot ()
Date: August 25, 2015 07:30PM

Alice Johnson your return would be worth 12 pts. A.J's regardless of gender are Delaney's Kryptonite!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cjckc ()
Date: August 25, 2015 08:52PM

Ckck

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 25, 2015 09:27PM

Dude - I have a problem with people posting content that is behind a paywall (Virginia Preps/Gameday). If you want these folks to cover high school football you have to let them make some $$$ of it. This is not cool.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Liberty Fan ()
Date: August 25, 2015 10:31PM

Baba Wrote:
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> Who will be the dark horse of conference 7
> (liberty)? Madison or fairfax


I don't know how you could consider Madison a dark horse. Most pre-season articles I have seen are fairly high on Madison. To be a dark horse, you have to be lightly regarded, and then surprise on the upside. Madison doesn't fit that description.

By the way, Liberty is Conference 6.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: luv it ok ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:00AM

I love that it is almost football season

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agree baby ()
Date: August 26, 2015 04:15PM

agree, football is great

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FutTheball ()
Date: August 26, 2015 05:58PM

When does the season start?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fooootoooooooo ()
Date: August 26, 2015 06:09PM

Ahh the good ole days Wrote:
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> Oakton was decimated by the last redistricting.
> They no longer have the athletes to compete.
>
> That said, I was at the scrimmage. South Lakes
> didn;t exactly win it. Oakton's QB was injured and
> they "won" it on second stringers.
>
> I would have realistically called it a tie which
> is sad by Oakton's standards.


Thats kind of what I meant but even a year ago they would have crushed south lakes with 3rd stringers

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fooooooooo ()
Date: August 26, 2015 06:11PM

wha happen'd? Wrote:
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> Re: High School Football 2015
> Posted by: Makers Mark ()
> Date: June 18, 2015 06:55PM
>
> This coming season may shape up to be very
> interesting indeed. For those who weren’t able
> to observe either of the Team Camps this month,
> Oakton's O- and D- Lines looked very strong, but
> their teamwork is what made them even more
> impressive so early in the pre-season. To correct
> an earlier post, last week, South Lakes appeared
> more dominated vs dominant. Enough said there.
> Robinson was able to hold their own against SL,
> but appeared to have a hard time closing holes
> made by Oakton’s O-line that allowed their QB
> and quick Backs to muscle through time and time
> again. Robinson’s offense had quite a bit of
> trouble executing against Oakton’s Defense as
> well… with their impressively quick DEs and DBs
> containing anything outside and down the field,
> and the combination of DTs and LB’s stopping
> almost everything within a yard of the LOS. It was
> obvious that Robinson was getting a bit
> frustrated... and it wasn’t the heat. Not sure
> what happened during the other Team Camps this
> week, but as of right now, my bet is on Oakton to
> dominate the Region.
>
>
>
> Ahh the good ole days Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oakton was decimated by the last redistricting.
> > They no longer have the athletes to compete.
> >
> > That said, I was at the scrimmage. South Lakes
> > didn;t exactly win it. Oakton's QB was injured
> and
> > they "won" it on second stringers.
> >
> > I would have realistically called it a tie
> which
> > is sad by Oakton's standards.
>
>
> So in the span of two months Oakton football went
> from one posters bet to dominate the region to a
> tie in a scrimmage with SL? As Steve Spurrier
> would say, "not to good!"




UMM the score was 14 south lakes 7 oakton

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RightousRoad ()
Date: August 26, 2015 06:15PM

We know who all the favorites are (Westfield/Centreville) but besides SoCo who is overrated and will disappoint us in the playoffs?

Who is underrated and will create some upsets?

What team will have the most Fantasy points for Offense and Defense each week?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Bestfield ()
Date: August 26, 2015 07:14PM

Cville will only beat teams by 14 points instead of 30 points last year until they get to Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: West is best ()
Date: August 26, 2015 07:51PM

It is a given, Westfield wins the Northern Region this year. No doubt.

Everyone else go home.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wha happn'd? ()
Date: August 26, 2015 08:51PM

fooooooooo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> wha happen'd? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Re: High School Football 2015
> > Posted by: Makers Mark ()
> > Date: June 18, 2015 06:55PM
> >
> > This coming season may shape up to be very
> > interesting indeed. For those who weren’t
> able
> > to observe either of the Team Camps this month,
> > Oakton's O- and D- Lines looked very strong,
> but
> > their teamwork is what made them even more
> > impressive so early in the pre-season. To
> correct
> > an earlier post, last week, South Lakes
> appeared
> > more dominated vs dominant. Enough said there.
> > Robinson was able to hold their own against SL,
> > but appeared to have a hard time closing holes
> > made by Oakton’s O-line that allowed their QB
> > and quick Backs to muscle through time and time
> > again. Robinson’s offense had quite a bit of
> > trouble executing against Oakton’s Defense as
> > well… with their impressively quick DEs and
> DBs
> > containing anything outside and down the field,
> > and the combination of DTs and LB’s stopping
> > almost everything within a yard of the LOS. It
> was
> > obvious that Robinson was getting a bit
> > frustrated... and it wasn’t the heat. Not
> sure
> > what happened during the other Team Camps this
> > week, but as of right now, my bet is on Oakton
> to
> > dominate the Region.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ahh the good ole days Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Oakton was decimated by the last
> redistricting.
> > > They no longer have the athletes to compete.
> > >
> > > That said, I was at the scrimmage. South
> Lakes
> > > didn;t exactly win it. Oakton's QB was
> injured
> > and
> > > they "won" it on second stringers.
> > >
> > > I would have realistically called it a tie
> > which
> > > is sad by Oakton's standards.
> >
> >
> > So in the span of two months Oakton football
> went
> > from one posters bet to dominate the region to
> a
> > tie in a scrimmage with SL? As Steve Spurrier
> > would say, "not to good!"
>
>
>
>
> UMM the score was 14 south lakes 7 oakton


I gave the benefit of the doubt to the poster who said the Oakton QB was injured, they played 2nd stringers, etc, so it was roughly the equivalent of a tie and it was just after all just a scrimmage. My real question though is where is the Oakton fanboy who said SL was dominated in the June camps and that Oakton would dominate the region?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Last year ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:03AM

Where did you get the information that W Springfield QB is soft and mentally weak? The kid is as tough as they come. I was on here last year talking about how good he is. He'll probably be the best qb in the region and had a great game against LB in playoffs while LB's qb threw int after int. I think they're scrimmaging Oakton tonight. It may get out of hand

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DaddyOOOO ()
Date: August 27, 2015 12:01PM

Last year Wrote:
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> Where did you get the information that W
> Springfield QB is soft and mentally weak? The kid
> is as tough as they come. I was on here last year
> talking about how good he is. He'll probably be
> the best qb in the region and had a great game
> against LB in playoffs while LB's qb threw int
> after int. I think they're scrimmaging Oakton
> tonight. It may get out of hand


Are you his dad or his step dad? The kid wasn't even all district.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Uninformed ()
Date: August 27, 2015 12:24PM

He wasn't all district because he didn't start every game. He ended the season as one of the top qbs in the area.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Last year ()
Date: August 27, 2015 01:30PM

DaddyOOOO Wrote:
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> Last year Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where did you get the information that W
> > Springfield QB is soft and mentally weak? The
> kid
> > is as tough as they come. I was on here last
> year
> > talking about how good he is. He'll probably be
> > the best qb in the region and had a great game
> > against LB in playoffs while LB's qb threw int
> > after int. I think they're scrimmaging Oakton
> > tonight. It may get out of hand
>
>
> Are you his dad or his step dad? The kid wasn't
> even all district.


His dad??? Is that all you got? Watch the kid play and maybe you'll be able to make an informed comment

Furthermore only a LB dad would think the kid isn't good but in two months when your words are proved wrong you'll just be another anonymous poster who won't claim his dumb comment

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fake Peter Muskett ()
Date: August 27, 2015 01:46PM

Hey, I appreciate all of you commenting on me but I have to agree with the earlier post- I am soft. I have missed multiple days of practice this summer- I just tell the coaches my hip hurts or I have a boo boo on my finger. I also don't really know how to read defenses or run the offense so I just run the ball.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: another one? ()
Date: August 27, 2015 01:53PM

Another northern Virginia nigger arrested. Ahmad Brooks, played for Hylton, and now the 49ers, charged with sexual battery along with some other NFL nigger.
Typical.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Givemeabreak ()
Date: August 27, 2015 06:41PM

Last year Wrote:
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> DaddyOOOO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Last year Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Where did you get the information that W
> > > Springfield QB is soft and mentally weak? The
> > kid
> > > is as tough as they come. I was on here last
> > year
> > > talking about how good he is. He'll probably
> be
> > > the best qb in the region and had a great
> game
> > > against LB in playoffs while LB's qb threw
> int
> > > after int. I think they're scrimmaging Oakton
> > > tonight. It may get out of hand
> >
> >
> > Are you his dad or his step dad? The kid wasn't
> > even all district.
>
>
> His dad??? Is that all you got? Watch the kid play
> and maybe you'll be able to make an informed
> comment
>
> Furthermore only a LB dad would think the kid
> isn't good but in two months when your words are
> proved wrong you'll just be another anonymous
> poster who won't claim his dumb comment



Give me a break dude, the only kid on the ALL MET watch list from West Springfield is their kicker, and he moved away months ago. Another 7-4 year beating up on Lee, Edison, and W&L.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: August 27, 2015 08:58PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> A team on the rise is WT Woodson. Coming off a
> 2-8 season they are not a top of conference team
> by any stretch, but I think their fast tempo
> offense in year 2 will be a lot better. It sounds
> like from the media day the coach is very
> encouraged by the offseason and I like how he is
> incorporating Cross Fit into it. The opener
> against Chantilly will tell me a lot. My
> hesitation is they are scrimmaging Marshall and
> South Lakes; I’m a big proponent of scrimmaging
> better teams as Woodson will get little out of
> these matchups.


Woodson didn't get much out of scrimmaging SL tonight, SL was thumping them 32-7 when I left at the end of Q-3. It may have been worse than that since I got there after the scrimmage started. Woodson could move the ball some through the air with the first team but had no ground game. That usually spells death in HS ball.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:03PM

Centerville needs to find themselves a new kicker. He had a seven extra points he missed three of them. Against a good team that will come back and haunt them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: dbfromnva ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:42PM

How bad was the foot/ankle injury for the Centreville RB? He looked great before he got hurt.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cats Kicker ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:11PM

nufan Wrote:
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> Centerville needs to find themselves a new kicker.
> He had a seven extra points he missed three of
> them. Against a good team that will come back and
> haunt them.

Didn't Centreville have a female kicker two years ago on their JV? She would be a senior this year. Had no clue on what was happening but was a good kicker.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:33PM

The Cville kicker is kicking with his off leg. Nursing an injury. Not a concern

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:37PM

Cville looked pretty good tonight. 6 first half scores to 0 before 2's played the rest of way.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sleeper ()
Date: August 28, 2015 06:57AM

If someone rolls by Robinson today, you may need to drop off some salve for the ass whipping West Potomac dished them last night. In sure there's lots of butt-hurt going on in their coaches office today.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: August 28, 2015 10:24AM

We should not get too excited about scrimmages at this stage. Offenses are not showing their full playbook, and starters that are nicked up will be kept out in order to be ready for the season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smoketon ()
Date: August 28, 2015 10:31AM

Oakton/West Springfield scrimmage was a good contest last night. Teams played relatively evenly (I think Oakton won by 1).

Observations: 1) WS QB is good. Good runner who made some nice throws. He will be a factor this year 2) Oakton looked a lot bigger and stronger - seemed to control the lines of scrimmage on both sides of the ball 3) WS seemed to have a lot of guys playing both ways - hopefully, they will stay healthy during the season, and they did not appear to have a lot of depth judging from the number of kids on the sideline; 4) two WS kids got injured - a DB and an RB - hope they are okay, but the RB got carried off the field; 5) Oakton offense could move the ball especially with the running game - but as their WR was playing QB - they were certainly not employing a complicated scheme.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: August 28, 2015 11:18AM

Any news on the Westfield scrimmage?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mpn Man ()
Date: August 28, 2015 12:04PM

Any news on the Westfield scrimmage?

__________________________________________________________________________

Final was 28-17, Quince Orchard, don't take too much away from that. It was 17-14 Westfield when the starters were pulled. QO pulled their starters as well with the exception of special teams.

Three of the 4 QO TD's were set up by Westfield fumbles inside their own red zone. Scanlon mishandled one snap, the 2nd string QB failed to handle a snap as well, and one of the back ups fumbled a punt late at the 5 yard line.

Strangely enough QO had 2 fumbles recovered by Westfield that neither was ruled a fumble. One might have been down by contact, the oter was a TD pass on a botched FG attempt. Looks like the QO player was stripped before he crossed the goal line, ball recovered by Westfield. The officials ruled a TD so who knows, guess it must have been.

All in all much better performance by Westfield than last week against Dematha. Quince Orchard had some extremely big guys up front on both O & D lines. It was a pretty good scrimmage, defense is definitely Westfield's strength.

Westfield's offense looked better than last week, Scanlon is more of a threat at WR than QB. Westfield put Scanlon at wide out in the 3rd quarter, back up QB Johnson threw a beautiful pass on the money. Scanlon took it to the house, think it was an 80 yard scoring play. Pass probably covered 40 of those yards.

Westfield's two top running backs Pearson and Monticue did not dress again. Third straight scrimmage they have not participated in, one was being discilplined the other nursing a hamstring.

Westfield will definitely need to rely on their D to start the season until the offense can mesh. Would be nice to see the starting running backs actually play!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scrimmages ()
Date: August 28, 2015 12:15PM

I think WS was up 20-14 at after 3 qtrs. looked like they pulled most of their starters after the RB got hurt and played the rest of the way with back ups. Oakton definitely scored on their two's. However Oakton did control the line of scrimmage most of the night. WS in it with a couple big plays. WS have some playmakers but not too strong upfront. Both teams look like they need some work

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Aah ()
Date: August 28, 2015 09:54PM

How did the Annandale Fairfax scrimmage go? Anybody know

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Footballfan2099 ()
Date: August 28, 2015 10:21PM

Anybody hear anything about TC Williams this year? The have a quality new HC. Was interested to see how their two scrimmages went.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Johnny Reb 3 ()
Date: August 29, 2015 06:54AM

Fairfax won 60-14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:27AM

TC will try to instill the discipline that carried Cville to 3 of the last 4 state finals....some Good talent on the staff in asst. coaches...we know the Talent has always been there, question is how to get the street out of the talent and keep the talent on the Field...ol ex Wildcat might have bitten off more than he can chew...or he might prove who the real "brains" behind C-villes run was! We shall see.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:31AM

Here are the initial week 1 predictions for next week. They’re usually off the first couple of weeks as I get a lay of the land. Nevertheless a lot of great matchups.


Thursday - September 3, 2015

Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson
*Woodson is on the rise, look for them to be one of the most improved teams this year. This won’t be the typical 5 touchdown win Chantilly has had against Woodson the past few years. Chantilly has a little more depth and Woodson’s defense still isn’t at a high enough level.

Hayfield (-20.0) @ Edison

Herndon @ Fairfax (-6.5)

West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)

Westfield (-40.0) @ Washington-Lee


Friday – September 4, 2015

Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)
*This will be a game worth keeping an eye on as it is the first of many Fairfax-Loudoun showdowns. Briar Woods lost a tough opener to Tuscarora last night and now has another tough matchup this week.

Broad Run (-14.0) @ Wakefield

Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale

Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee

Madison (-1.0) @ Oakton
*This is the closest on paper this matchup has been in a while. I imagine it will be a good game.

McLean @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)

Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)
*This game could really go either way with two above average teams. Another great game to consider Friday night.

South Lakes (-10.0) @ Marshall

Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
*The good news is one of these teams will get a win, which they will be few and hard to come by this year.

TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: August 29, 2015 12:44PM

Fairfax must be loaded, 60-14 beat down, of who was that?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not so sure ()
Date: August 29, 2015 01:22PM

No disrespect but do not think that Fairfax football is loaded....not nearly on the same level as Cville, Wfield, Braddock, etc.

Sorry

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 29, 2015 02:23PM

Dematha destroying the #2 team in the nation, Miami Central, good thing Westfield worked out all their kinks...fairfax was scrimmaging Herndons Ankelbiter team so that game went just about as it should have...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Week 1 Predictions ()
Date: August 29, 2015 02:50PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Here are the initial week 1 predictions for next
> week. They’re usually off the first couple of
> weeks as I get a lay of the land. Nevertheless a
> lot of great matchups.
>
>
> Thursday - September 3, 2015
>
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson
> *Woodson is on the rise, look for them to be one
> of the most improved teams this year. This
> won’t be the typical 5 touchdown win Chantilly
> has had against Woodson the past few years.
> Chantilly has a little more depth and Woodson’s
> defense still isn’t at a high enough level.
>
> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Edison
>
> Herndon @ Fairfax (-6.5)
>
> West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)
>
> Westfield (-40.0) @ Washington-Lee
>
>
> Friday – September 4, 2015
>
> Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)
> *This will be a game worth keeping an eye on as it
> is the first of many Fairfax-Loudoun showdowns.
> Briar Woods lost a tough opener to Tuscarora last
> night and now has another tough matchup this
> week.
>
> Broad Run (-14.0) @ Wakefield
>
> Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale
>
> Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee
>
> Madison (-1.0) @ Oakton
> *This is the closest on paper this matchup has
> been in a while. I imagine it will be a good
> game.
>
> McLean @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
>
> Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)
> *This game could really go either way with two
> above average teams. Another great game to
> consider Friday night.
>
> South Lakes (-10.0) @ Marshall
>
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
> *The good news is one of these teams will get a
> win, which they will be few and hard to come by
> this year.
>
> TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson


Thanks Mr K2*,

Good predictions for week 1; can't wait to see if the favorites live up to the expectations and ratings.

Not sure about how much rise for Woodson; Chantilly should win by 4 TDs

Briar Woods vs SC should be a very close game; Upset alert for So Co.

If Cville is real deal then they win by 6 TDs.

WS should be able to cover the spread but depends on if their D can stop Rams ground game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dematha Watcher ()
Date: August 29, 2015 03:06PM

Watching Dematha play on ESPN today. A few thoughts come to mind:

1) are all of those kids in their original grades? How many 19 and 20 year olds are on their team? They don't look like teenagers.

2) How many of their players are paying bupkis to attend the private Catholic school in Hyattsville?

3) How many coaches does Dematha have? I've seen fewer coaches on NFL sidelines? The blue baseball caps and gray "Dematha Football" polos were all over the sideline.

4) I give WF kudos for scrimmaging them; no way should any NOVA public school play them in a real game. It's semipros v. amateurs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Vv ()
Date: August 29, 2015 03:12PM

Fairfax lost to Annandale 0-28, their offense didn't score all night....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: August 29, 2015 04:07PM

steve k2* Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here are the initial week 1 predictions for next
> week. They’re usually off the first couple of
> weeks as I get a lay of the land. Nevertheless a
> lot of great matchups.
>
>
> Thursday - September 3, 2015
>
> Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson
> *Woodson is on the rise, look for them to be one
> of the most improved teams this year. This
> won’t be the typical 5 touchdown win Chantilly
> has had against Woodson the past few years.
> Chantilly has a little more depth and Woodson’s
> defense still isn’t at a high enough level.
>
> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Edison
>
> Herndon @ Fairfax (-6.5)
>
> West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)
>
> Westfield (-40.0) @ Washington-Lee
>
>
> Friday – September 4, 2015
>
> Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)
> *This will be a game worth keeping an eye on as it
> is the first of many Fairfax-Loudoun showdowns.
> Briar Woods lost a tough opener to Tuscarora last
> night and now has another tough matchup this
> week.
>
> Broad Run (-14.0) @ Wakefield
>
> Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale
>
> Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee
>
> Madison (-1.0) @ Oakton
> *This is the closest on paper this matchup has
> been in a while. I imagine it will be a good
> game.
>
> McLean @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
>
> Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)
> *This game could really go either way with two
> above average teams. Another great game to
> consider Friday night.
>
> South Lakes (-10.0) @ Marshall
>
> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
> *The good news is one of these teams will get a
> win, which they will be few and hard to come by
> this year.
>
> TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson


I remember well how good you were at picking spreads for Fairfax games last year, so thanks for installing the Rebels as favorites.

Fairfax did lose the scrimmage to Annandale 28-0. That was a good test for Fairfax, as it showed what it needs to work on. The game really turned in the second quarter. Annandale was up 14-0, but Fairfax had a nice drive going, that started on the 20. Unfortunately for Fairfax, they fumbled inside the red zone, and turned it over to Annandale. They were able to drive for a score just before half.

Annandale looked good. They are Well-coached. They may be a sleeper team this year. I wouldn't expect them to beat Centreville, but I don't know that I would make Centreville a 31 point favorite in that game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 29, 2015 05:34PM

Relative to the above Dematha questions....they are all good Catholics so age and tuition do not matter to the Pope...

Was nice to see the Majority of the Annandale staff at the Cville Hilton Scrimmage...Annandale could be a respectful 7 & 3

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ConcordeWatcher ()
Date: August 29, 2015 06:16PM

How does Weastfield QB Scanlon compare to previous QB's for the Bulldogs?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mpn Man ()
Date: August 29, 2015 06:22PM

Scanlon is a good QB, but he's a much better WR and poses more of a threat at that position.

The back-up QB Johnson is the better of the two, he also runs very well. The only issue with him is whether he has the mental toughness to be the QB.

Westfield, as all successful programs have high expectations, if the QB isn't up to par it can get pretty ugly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Alabama lite ()
Date: August 29, 2015 06:51PM

If Scanlon or Johnson can't make it happen, you put Joey Free under center and have him hand off to Pearson...who will be a difference maker and that's what Westfields does...Run the Ball...what other team playing in the State semi-finals would only Target their 6'6" receiver once....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The Pope ()
Date: August 29, 2015 07:06PM

Dematha Watcher Wrote:
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> Watching Dematha play on ESPN today. A few
> thoughts come to mind:
>
> 1) are all of those kids in their original grades?
> How many 19 and 20 year olds are on their team?
> They don't look like teenagers.
>
> 2) How many of their players are paying bupkis to
> attend the private Catholic school in Hyattsville?
>
>
> 3) How many coaches does Dematha have? I've seen
> fewer coaches on NFL sidelines? The blue baseball
> caps and gray "Dematha Football" polos were all
> over the sideline.
>
> 4) I give WF kudos for scrimmaging them; no way
> should any NOVA public school play them in a real
> game. It's semipros v. amateurs.

Yes, they are all teenagers but I doubt they are Catholic...
Those Dematha boys are all 3 and 4 star prospects that have good genetics.

I'm sure they are all getting a free education unless their families are wealthy.

It takes a village to raise a child so coach to player ratio is probably about 2 or 3:1 ratio.

You are right about public vs private. This is a team of all stars except the punter looked kind of weak.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Records department ()
Date: August 29, 2015 07:36PM

If you look at their Birth dates espn top 300/max preps...many are 18 and a few months...our public school kids don't usually start turning 18 until January/February following football..and yes their kicking game is horrendous...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield question ()
Date: August 29, 2015 08:59PM

I've heard from some Westfield faithful that Scanlons's family demanded that he play QB this year, not WR. I agree at WR he can do more damage.

Is there any truth to this rumor, or is it a bunch of hooey?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield slush Fund ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:12PM

First and foremost, Scanlon is going to college on a Basketball Scholarship..the coaching staff has been doing everything to "give" Johnson the job..it's nice to have a 6'6" weapon on the field regardless of where he plays..no ones demanding anything...Johnson simply is not taking the Job...they both will see action at QB and just like at Quince Orchard, Scanlon will throw Td's and Catch Td's ....until Johnson figures it out!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Travelrocks ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:23PM

Hylton got shut out last night for the first time since 2007, 28-0 to Battlefield.

Hylton was 9th ranked in the Wash Post poll.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: a coach ()
Date: August 30, 2015 12:45AM

Dematha Watcher Wrote:
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> Watching Dematha play on ESPN today. A few
> thoughts come to mind:
>
> 1) are all of those kids in their original grades?
> How many 19 and 20 year olds are on their team?
> They don't look like teenagers.
>
> 2) How many of their players are paying bupkis to
> attend the private Catholic school in Hyattsville?
>
>
> 3) How many coaches does Dematha have? I've seen
> fewer coaches on NFL sidelines? The blue baseball
> caps and gray "Dematha Football" polos were all
> over the sideline.
>
> 4) I give WF kudos for scrimmaging them; no way
> should any NOVA public school play them in a real
> game. It's semipros v. amateurs.

Dematha has 22 coaches in their team photo. They must have a right guard coach, a left guard coach, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: suck at the teat ()
Date: August 30, 2015 10:36AM

All the DeMatha coaches are just a bunch of gangsta wannabes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR Insider ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:07PM

suck at the teat Wrote:
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> All the DeMatha coaches are just a bunch of
> gangsta wannabes

Why? Because they're black? What an ignorant statement. Maybe they just enjoy coaching and mentoring youth.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dematha ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:12PM

Actually, in watching the game yesterday, there were some white coaches on the DM sideline.

I just wonder how many of these coaches are looking ahead to a college coaching gig where they can wrangle a position at an FBS program in exchange for convincing one of their 19-20 year old charges to attend the school.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ginger Bread ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:13PM

I could have sworn Nick O'Leary was on the Dematha sideline...way to represent the Gingers!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who gives a flick ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:14PM

Who gives a shit about private school, recruiting based football. EFF Dematha and all schools like them, ruin the sport at the high school level. Just look at basketball, NOVA high school basketball nothing like it used to be as all good players go to private schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: scanlon's friend ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:15PM

Scanlon wanting to play QB - given his D1 basketball opportunities - is curious. Under the assumption that the QB position is more injury prone than WR, especially at the HS level, it's interesting that he wants to play QB. One bad hit, and he can miss his basketball season.

I agree that he's more of a threat as a WR, but with Scoville graduating, maybe Simmons and co has no choice. Given their D, they'll be a force regardless.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scanlons enemies ()
Date: August 30, 2015 01:23PM

Scanlon is an athlete and the fact that he wants to play football given his obvious basketball talents is a testament to him..as stated earlier if Johnson can't step up, Scanlon gets the reps...what you see now will be totally different week 7 or 8. As for the Defense, they have a lot of work to do..no depth on line, which makes for tired gap fillers which makes for a line backing corp taking on more blocks than they are accustomed to. An inexperienced secondary as we'll...fortunately they will make adjustments..not with out growing pains...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Metzfan ()
Date: August 30, 2015 02:02PM

Scanlons enemies Wrote:
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> Scanlon is an athlete and the fact that he wants
> to play football given his obvious basketball
> talents is a testament to him..as stated earlier
> if Johnson can't step up, Scanlon gets the
> reps...what you see now will be totally different
> week 7 or 8. As for the Defense, they have a lot
> of work to do..no depth on line, which makes for
> tired gap fillers which makes for a line backing
> corp taking on more blocks than they are
> accustomed to. An inexperienced secondary as
> we'll...fortunately they will make
> adjustments..not with out growing pains...


Westfield always figures it out. They will be good regardless. Other than the Glennons, who are outliers at the position, Westfield always finds a great athlete who plays excellent QB (Scoville, Mullins, Pisarcik, Fenyak) and gives them a chance to win. Scanlon will fall right in line with those guys.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton fan ()
Date: August 30, 2015 02:47PM

Westfield has the best coaching staff in the region. As an Oakton fan, I have looked at their seasons in awe. Even in down years, they manage to put it together and compete for the region title year after year. Incredible.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wuck them ()
Date: August 30, 2015 03:33PM

Wuck Festfield. Biggest enrollment around so can field 100s of players each year, talent pool just as good or better than any school (except Centreville recently) and still last four years they have choked. Call a spade a spade boys.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Annandale LB ()
Date: August 30, 2015 04:26PM

Scanlon is going to have an imprint of my facemask on his check Friday night

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 30, 2015 05:05PM

Wuck them Wrote:
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> Wuck Festfield. Biggest enrollment around so can
> field 100s of players each year

That was a few years ago. Last year they had the 3rd largest enrollment in FCPS. They will have continued declining enrollment - I expect several additional high schools to overtake them in enrollment numbers this year.

Stupid argument anyway. Lot's of huge schools don't have a decent football program. Doesn't have that much to do with it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't worry ()
Date: August 30, 2015 05:17PM

Not sure what the one post about Westfield's defense was referring to about having a lot of work to do. They've got 7 starters returning, couple other kids who played a bit in reserve mode last year. Enough depth on the line compared to just about every other team out there. Probably one of the best linebackers in the region. Top that off with probably one of the best defensive coordinators in the region as well. Think they"ll be alright, played fairly well against Dematha and we all kniw hiw good the Stags are. Against Quince Orchard Westfield's starting D gave up 14 points, 7 of those set up by Scanlon's fumble inside their own redzone. The secondary does need a little work but they'll figure it out, always do. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more blitzing from the LB's this year to help with opposing teams that want to air it out. Only time Westfield did it last year was in the Lake Braddock playoff game, was extremely effective.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Annandale dip shit ()
Date: August 30, 2015 08:47PM

You wonder why Annandales program Sucks....you idiots don't play Westfield you moron...you are probably on the freshman team and you will be grateful as such after the Ass whoopin Centreville delivers you...and for the Record it's spelled Cheek, not Check

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cat Nation ()
Date: August 30, 2015 08:54PM

Westfeilds defense is very questionable...Secondary will get torched by most passing teams...the Linebackers are only as good as the guys in front of them..and besides Aiello...there Front is week...which means helmets on the second level...Annapolis and that ship will sail on Clancy after he can't shed a block....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't worry ()
Date: August 30, 2015 10:03PM

You must not watch many Westfield games, they've got more than just one decent lineman. They also are more than capable of pressuring a passing team, ask Lake Braddock. It may have been last year but since 7 startes are returning on D they'll be okay. Wouldn't worry about their LB's either, seen Clancy shed plenty of blocks. Navy obviously has to since they as well as other schools offered him a football scholarship. But good luck with your logic!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 31, 2015 11:43AM

Don't worry Wrote:
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> You must not watch many Westfield games, they've
> got more than just one decent lineman. They also
> are more than capable of pressuring a passing
> team, ask Lake Braddock. It may have been last
> year but since 7 startes are returning on D
> they'll be okay.

Defensive line has the potential to be a weak spot. Brandon Flores-Lopez had a monster year last year and he will be missed. Seems like Chris Leo might be playing OL this year. If so, that’s a lot of toughness and experience to replace. But then again Flores-Lopez pretty much came from nowhere in 2014 so perhaps someone else is in the pipeline to do it again this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't worry ()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:35PM

Don't worry Wrote:
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> You must not watch many Westfield games, they've
> got more than just one decent lineman. They also
> are more than capable of pressuring a passing
> team, ask Lake Braddock. It may have been last
> year but since 7 startes are returning on D
> they'll be okay.

Defensive line has the potential to be a weak spot. Brandon Flores-Lopez had a monster year last year and he will be missed. Seems like Chris Leo might be playing OL this year. If so, that’s a lot of toughness and experience to replace. But then again Flores-Lopez pretty much came from nowhere in 2014 so perhaps someone else is in the pipeline to do it again this year.

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The one constant it seems at schools like Westfield, Centreville, Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, etc. is every year there's a wave of players to reload. Of course this happens everywhere but there are just those programs that are capable of replacing kids and staying consistent as far aw winning programs.

Leo is playing D line, experimented early with O but decided to keep him where he played last year. Lutz is another big strong kid paired with Leo at line, Aiello at one end position, Jewell at the other. Aiello and Leo returning starters, Jewell actually started 4 or 5 games last year, Lutz played a ton as well. Then they've got a few back-ups along the D line with size and ability.

If there is a weakness it will be the secondary, gone are Gibson and Moore, 3 year starters. That's why I just think you'll see Westfield implement more of an attack mode when playing teams that like to air it out. Put pressure on opponents QB's and not allow your secondary to be picked on.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wuck them ()
Date: August 31, 2015 01:45PM

Wuck Festfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rigdon ()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:21PM

Did not expect Battlefield to beat Hylton 28-0 last Friday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:34PM

Rigdon Wrote:
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> Did not expect Battlefield to beat Hylton 28-0
> last Friday.

That was a surprise. Slade only had about 30 yards rushing. Battlefield goes to the front of the line in 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:37PM

Both teams overrated. Hylton was playing a third string qb. Had several starters not playing.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wrong again ()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:45PM

No, Battlefield does not go to the front of the line. Westfield and Lake Braddock are right now at the top and Centreville and SOCO nipping at the heels. I think that Battlefield although good then comes in a clump with West Springfield around 5th or 6th best in the North (at least when it comes to 6A teams). Will be interesting to see what happens when the 5A Loudon teams play the 6A Fairfax County teams, will tell a lot. Starts this week with Briar Woods and SOCO, continues later in the year with other matchups.

One thing that everyone continuously does on this site is take one game and thing the whole world has changed, patience, the cream will rise.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:16PM

Ah, yes, you are probably correct but the current PowerPoint standings for 6A North would be:

Battlefield 26
Patriot 25
Osbourn Park 15
Stonewall Jackson 15
Osbourn 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NOVAdude ()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:32PM

It's still August. Too early to be filling out our 6A playoff brackets now.

The previous Westfield post that referenced Gibson and Moore - their long-time secondary studs. I know Gibson is at West Point. Is Moore playing in college?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dont say never ()
Date: August 31, 2015 04:16PM

Its never too early to fill out the 6A North bracket; I already have SoCo leaving in second round after picking themselves to go all the way.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NOVAdude ()
Date: August 31, 2015 04:25PM

Okay, you win. Never too early to be talking about the inevitable early SoCo exit!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco sux and so does LB ()
Date: August 31, 2015 04:49PM

Westfield or Centreville to win the North. The Patriot league always punks out.....stick with the ole Concorde, it will do you just fine

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't worry ()
Date: August 31, 2015 04:52PM

The previous Westfield post that referenced Gibson and Moore - their long-time secondary studs. I know Gibson is at West Point. Is Moore playing in college?

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Moore is playing at a DII school, some FCS schools were interested grades weren't there.

Gibson is at West Point, he apparently even has a chance to start as a freshman this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: chokies ()
Date: August 31, 2015 07:25PM

South county, Lake Braddock, Westfield are all cookies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Summer school ()
Date: August 31, 2015 07:37PM

I believe Moore is at Shepherd. All the Battlefield victory proves is none of us know what we are talking about including the Post...week 7 or 8 will separate the good, bad and ugly once we are in "District" play

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL1978 ()
Date: August 31, 2015 08:46PM

Why isn't there more buzz around South Lakes? They dominated Oakton and Woodson in their scrimmages... They'll win at least 7 games this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson 2000 ()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:07PM

South Lakes....Really...Oakton got nothing, woodson oh man...let them beat TJ and then the buzz can begin!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:09PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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Thanks for jumping in with your usual picks!

> Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson
> *Woodson is on the rise, look for them to be one
> of the most improved teams this year. This
> won’t be the typical 5 touchdown win Chantilly
> has had against Woodson the past few years.
> Chantilly has a little more depth and Woodson’s
> defense still isn’t at a high enough level.

I think Chantilly will win by at least 17 - I really just don't see this as a 10 point game.

> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Edison

> Herndon @ Fairfax (-6.5)

I would bet Fairfax wins by 10+

> West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)

> Westfield (-40.0) @ Washington-Lee

> Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)
> *This will be a game worth keeping an eye on as it
> is the first of many Fairfax-Loudoun showdowns.
> Briar Woods lost a tough opener to Tuscarora last
> night and now has another tough matchup this
> week.

This would be my game of the week. I would look for BW to win this one.

> Broad Run (-14.0) @ Wakefield

I would predict Broad Run by 21+

> Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale

> Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee

I think LB will win by 35.

> Madison (-1.0) @ Oakton
> *This is the closest on paper this matchup has
> been in a while. I imagine it will be a good
> game.

I predict a Madison win.

> McLean @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)

> Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)
> *This game could really go either way with two
> above average teams. Another great game to
> consider Friday night.

A toss-up for me. No idea who will win this one, but will pick Robinson.

>South Lakes (-10.0) @ Marshall

> Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
> *The good news is one of these teams will get a
> win, which they will be few and hard to come by
> this year.

> TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Phil Meup ()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:20PM

That's racist.gif

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Monkeybars ()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:41PM

It's going to be a great season. Can't wait.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bonkeymars ()
Date: September 01, 2015 06:36AM

It is going to be a crappy season. Really would rather wait.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Travelrocks ()
Date: September 01, 2015 09:23AM

nufan Wrote:
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> Both teams overrated. Hylton was playing a third
> string qb. Had several starters not playing.


It sounds like Hylton has little depth this season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Friday night ()
Date: September 01, 2015 09:59AM

SC v briarwoods is going to be a great game. SC is physical and has speed at the skill positions. BW will always be stout. However I don't think they have started 0-2 yet (at least not recently). SC is usually strong early in the year so they have my pick.

Originally I thought Robinson v WS were both going to be really good. They both may get better throughout the year but not sure they will challenge for the northern region. Robinson has looked bad in both of their scrimmages. I think WS will take it by 14.

Rest of the games seem self-explanatory. Chattily/Woodson shouldn't be close but Woodson will put some points on the board.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 01, 2015 11:19AM

> West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)

West Po wins by 10. QB Ellis throws for 260.

> TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson

TC doesn't cover this spread. TJ'll outsmart 'em.

> Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee

LB covers this easily. They may need new bulbs for the Lee scoreboard.

> Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale

It won't be this close. Centreville covers easily.

> Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)

Briar Woods wins a squeaker here.

> Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson

Woodson shocks everyone including themselves.

> Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)

W. Springfield wins by 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just sayin' ()
Date: September 01, 2015 11:32AM

TC will cover the TJ spread by halftime.

This is the start of a new day at TCW. They are a well coached team now with kids that want to play.

I saw them last week put a very serious hurt on both Hayfield and Lee.

They put up 42 on Lee in two quarters playing everyone on their bench, and Lee didn't make a single first down. TCW kids are playing hard but still at least a year away from making a big move on the region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 6 dad ()
Date: September 01, 2015 11:46AM

I haven't heard anyone mention Langley as a dark horse. They lost a RB to graduation but have most of the 0-line (big as usual) and qb returning. A lot of people seem to like Madison as the dark horse but I'm not sold on them. They have a very good qb but it doesn't appear they have enough around him, particularly on D, to challenge for the conference title.

Saw the SL/Woodson scrimmage and while a few SLer's are going a bit overboard on the expectaions they should be much improved this year. The sophmore qb isn't very big but very elusive as a rb and very good at making quick reads and accurate throws. Only a sophmore though so he'll have a steep learning curve going from the freshman team to varsity but going somewhere between 4-6 to 6-4 is a realistic possibility.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 01, 2015 12:20PM

Just sayin' Wrote:
> They put up 42 on Lee in two quarters playing
> everyone on their bench, and Lee didn't make a
> single first down. TCW kids are playing hard but
> still at least a year away from making a big move
> on the region.

That says more about Lee than TC, to me. It's going to be a looooong season for the Lancers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just Sayin' ()
Date: September 01, 2015 12:29PM

Might very well be a long year for the Lancers, but TCW will beat some folks this year that will raise some eyebrows.

My money says they will beat Oakton in week 2, for instance.
(Before getting thrashed by Westfield in week 3)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Con-man ()
Date: September 01, 2015 10:20PM

Why is Falls Church and Yorktown playing DC schools this week? Is this a new trend?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spartan Pride ()
Date: September 01, 2015 10:30PM

WSHS 42
Robo 7

Blow out city. You heard it here 1st!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde Pride ()
Date: September 02, 2015 06:55AM

Well hold on there little Spartan; all Concorde team are superior no matter what. Robinson will be the one blowing out Patriot teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde sux ()
Date: September 02, 2015 08:56AM

concorde on the way down busta

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Joe Dirte ()
Date: September 02, 2015 10:02AM

Concorde has dominated since the 80s dude
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Liberty Dad ()
Date: September 02, 2015 10:36AM

Conf 6 dad Wrote:
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> I haven't heard anyone mention Langley as a dark
> horse. They lost a RB to graduation but have most
> of the 0-line (big as usual) and qb returning. A
> lot of people seem to like Madison as the dark
> horse but I'm not sold on them. They have a very
> good qb but it doesn't appear they have enough
> around him, particularly on D, to challenge for
> the conference title.
>
> Saw the SL/Woodson scrimmage and while a few
> SLer's are going a bit overboard on the
> expectaions they should be much improved this
> year. The sophmore qb isn't very big but very
> elusive as a rb and very good at making quick
> reads and accurate throws. Only a sophmore though
> so he'll have a steep learning curve going from
> the freshman team to varsity but going somewhere
> between 4-6 to 6-4 is a realistic possibility.

Langley always has big lines, and that goes a long way towards having a good team.

Do you think Langley should be the Conference 6/Liberty favorite? Most are talking about Hayfield or Yorktown, but I'm not sold on them, either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO NATION ()
Date: September 02, 2015 01:21PM

SOCO will be the team to beat this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 02, 2015 01:28PM

SOCO NATION Wrote:
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> SOCO will be the team to beat this year


And Briar Woods will likely oblige on Friday night.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cal Norton ()
Date: September 02, 2015 02:58PM

Liberty Dad Wrote:
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> Conf 6 dad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I haven't heard anyone mention Langley as a
> dark
> > horse. They lost a RB to graduation but have
> most
> > of the 0-line (big as usual) and qb returning.
> A
> > lot of people seem to like Madison as the dark
> > horse but I'm not sold on them. They have a
> very
> > good qb but it doesn't appear they have enough
> > around him, particularly on D, to challenge for
> > the conference title.
> >
> > Saw the SL/Woodson scrimmage and while a few
> > SLer's are going a bit overboard on the
> > expectaions they should be much improved this
> > year. The sophmore qb isn't very big but very
> > elusive as a rb and very good at making quick
> > reads and accurate throws. Only a sophmore
> though
> > so he'll have a steep learning curve going from
> > the freshman team to varsity but going
> somewhere
> > between 4-6 to 6-4 is a realistic possibility.
>
> Langley always has big lines, and that goes a long
> way towards having a good team.
>
> Do you think Langley should be the Conference
> 6/Liberty favorite? Most are talking about
> Hayfield or Yorktown, but I'm not sold on them,
> either.

Hayfield is the favorite. Yorktown is close behind. W-L has the momentum of building on the past few successful seasons, but I heard key players are injured right now. Hayfield, Yorktown and W-L were the strongest teams in the old National District and each have won district titles in recent years. Langley is likely up there with Yorktown. Same with Madison from what I hear. Liberty Conference 6 should be interesting because it is so hard to predict.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 6 dad ()
Date: September 02, 2015 03:17PM

Liberty Dad Wrote:
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> Conf 6 dad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I haven't heard anyone mention Langley as a
> dark
> > horse. They lost a RB to graduation but have
> most
> > of the 0-line (big as usual) and qb returning.
> A
> > lot of people seem to like Madison as the dark
> > horse but I'm not sold on them. They have a
> very
> > good qb but it doesn't appear they have enough
> > around him, particularly on D, to challenge for
> > the conference title.
> >
> > Saw the SL/Woodson scrimmage and while a few
> > SLer's are going a bit overboard on the
> > expectaions they should be much improved this
> > year. The sophmore qb isn't very big but very
> > elusive as a rb and very good at making quick
> > reads and accurate throws. Only a sophmore
> though
> > so he'll have a steep learning curve going from
> > the freshman team to varsity but going
> somewhere
> > between 4-6 to 6-4 is a realistic possibility.
>
> Langley always has big lines, and that goes a long
> way towards having a good team.
>
> Do you think Langley should be the Conference
> 6/Liberty favorite? Most are talking about
> Hayfield or Yorktown, but I'm not sold on them,
> either.

I also think Hayfield is the Conf 6/Liberty favorite but think Langley is a good a bet as any to finish 2nd. I think Yorktown will be down some this year due to a combo of graduations and adjusting to D6. As mentioned above this is a hard conference to predict though.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: madison fan ()
Date: September 02, 2015 05:01PM

Come on out to Oakton HS this Friday with the Gameday Magazine crew and watch the Warhawks put a whupping on the pansies from Oakton. One point spread? Heck no, we expect to win by 20.

Bye, bye Cougars!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Madison Dad ()
Date: September 02, 2015 06:41PM

what about the Cougar Moms? I heard they're pretty tough

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cougar Mommie ()
Date: September 02, 2015 08:08PM

I am tough to crack

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Huskiefan ()
Date: September 02, 2015 09:03PM

Go you Huskies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 02, 2015 10:03PM

Because of the Redskins contribution to their new turf field I went to the Park View (Sterling) vs. Manassas Park game last week.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/08/28/skins-donation-supports-park-views-new-field/71311934/

It was a fun evening – for those who remember - Park View was once a fairly strong small school football program:

District Champions: 1978, 1980, 1891, 1983, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006
Region Champions: 1980, 1988, 1994, 1999, 2000
State Runner-Up: 1980, 1999, 2000
State Champions: 1988

They have fallen on hard times lately - their last 3 seasons were 0-10, 2-8 and 0-10.

Manassas Park also had some good football seasons in the past. They were 14-0 and won the state 2A title in 2004. Their last 3 seasons were 8-4, 2-8, 1-9.

I read a lot of folks complaining about immigrants not assimilating to US culture- but both teams had a lot of Hispanic/Latino players. Park View had 54 players on their roster – 21 had apparent Hispanic names. Manassas Park had 38 players on their roster – 10 had seemingly Hispanic names. So ... the immigrants and/or their kids are playing American football. Perhaps not so well, but I’d call it assimilation.

Park View won 26-21. Was a tremendously sloppy game on both sides E.g. Park View was called for 3 delay of game penalties when punting on 4th down. Including back-to-back delays of game on the same punt attempt. Park View punted on a 3rd down in the first quarter – it made no sense – I think the coach thought it was 4th down.

Manassas Park’s offense had some issues – probably had 10 fumbles in the game. They had either a botched snap or QB mishandle a snap on about 7 different offensive series. They played in the shotgun formation and they killed themselves with bad snaps or QB not catching the snap cleanly. I thought Manassas Park had the better athletes but they just kept digging themselves into holes with ball handling miscues. Both teams kept the refs busy tossing yellow.

WP had a write-up about the game - the Park View QB was the star of the game - had a lot of big runs:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/loudoun-football-notebook-park-view-snaps-skid-champe-tops-woodgrove/2015/08/31/3a3ce10e-4fe5-11e5-933e-7d06c647a395_story.html

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: go WS go ()
Date: September 03, 2015 07:04AM

SPartans all the way

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cougar country ()
Date: September 03, 2015 09:30AM

madison fan Wrote:
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> Come on out to Oakton HS this Friday with the
> Gameday Magazine crew and watch the Warhawks put a
> whupping on the pansies from Oakton. One point
> spread? Heck no, we expect to win by 20.
>
> Bye, bye Cougars!

Scouting report for the Oakton D line
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: prediction man ()
Date: September 03, 2015 12:40PM

Briar Woods over South County

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Be Real ()
Date: September 03, 2015 03:13PM

Stop with the Madison will beat Oakton chatter. No kid at Madison and no kid in college that went to Madison has seen a victory over Oakton. It hasn't happened since 2007. This is not a rivalry, this is straight out ownership. KaBoom!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 03, 2015 04:51PM

Herndon vs Fairfax guess for tonight

Herndon 21 Fairfax 17

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cougar country part two ()
Date: September 03, 2015 06:18PM

Koshuta is going to run all over the Oakton D Line. Cardelli won't know what hit him.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: September 03, 2015 07:54PM

BMC Wrote:
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> Herndon vs Fairfax guess for tonight
>
> Herndon 21 Fairfax 17

Game is in a delay for lightning. Scoreless, 37 seconds left in the first quarter. Fairfax is driving, first and then at the Herndon 25

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:28AM

Any scores to report from tonight's games?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: boosters ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:34AM

Football fan Wrote:
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> Any scores to report from tonight's games?

Westfield 30 W-L 10

Falls Church 49 Eastern (DC) 6

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: drum major ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:40AM

Con-man Wrote:
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> Why is Falls Church and Yorktown playing DC
> schools this week? Is this a new trend?

Yorktown has a tradition of playing a DC school the first week. Now Falls Church wants to do the same thing. It's a guaranteed win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:43AM

Football fan Wrote:
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> Any scores to report from tonight's games?


Fairfax 22, Herndon 0.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 04, 2015 06:26AM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> > West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)
>
> West Po wins by 10. QB Ellis throws for 260.
>

I stand corrected. Ellis threw for about 350.
WestPo wins 41-28

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:15AM

Nice win for Fairfax! Since Annandale smacked Fairfax, Centreville may have a test tonight vs. Atoms.

Westfield way over hyped. Pedestrian win at best over WL.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: h4LEE ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:33AM

Cougar country part two Wrote:
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> Koshuta is going to run all over the Oakton D
> Line. Cardelli won't know what hit him.


Let's hear. How'd it go?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMS ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:37AM

BMC Wrote:
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> Nice win for Fairfax! Since Annandale smacked
> Fairfax, Centreville may have a test tonight vs.
> Atoms.
>
> Westfield way over hyped. Pedestrian win at best
> over WL.

Westfield should be fine. I heard WL beat Annandale in their scrimmage and Annandale is one of the better teams this year. A 50-0 blowout over WL was just not realistic.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:42AM

What happened to the Pre Crowned N 6A champs?
thought they were supposed to win by 6 TDs...
Is W&L a better team or Westfield way over-hyped?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Get your facts straight ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:46AM

Nice win for Fairfax! Since Annandale smacked Fairfax, Centreville may have a test tonight vs. Atoms.

Westfield way over hyped. Pedestrian win at best over WL.

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BMC, by looking at your comments I assume you were not at the games. Shouldn't pass judgment based off of a score.

Westfield is a very good team, their defense is going to be a force, special teams as well. Offense, it needs to pick it up, they look rusty.

Westfield was up 20-0 at half, W&L could not move the ball or get a first down against the Bulldogs in the first half. Westfield's offense, that's another subject, looked very sloppy, had way too many penalties, 12 in the first half alone.

Westfield pulled all their defensive starters at half, 2nd then eventually 3rd string players in the entire second half. So don't let the score fool you, it wasn't even close.

Funny though, since their offense was so sloppy the starters for Westfield were left in until the beginning of the 4th quarter. Also, their two top running backs, Pearson and Monticue, did not dress. Both have minor hamstring injuries, coaches saving them for SOCO next Friday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: very interesting ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:29AM

Get your facts straight Wrote:
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> Nice win for Fairfax! Since Annandale smacked
> Fairfax, Centreville may have a test tonight vs.
> Atoms.
>
> Westfield way over hyped. Pedestrian win at best
> over WL.
>
> __________________________________________________
> __________________________
>
> BMC, by looking at your comments I assume you were
> not at the games. Shouldn't pass judgment based
> off of a score.
>
> Westfield is a very good team, their defense is
> going to be a force, special teams as well.
> Offense, it needs to pick it up, they look rusty.
>
> Westfield was up 20-0 at half, W&L could not move
> the ball or get a first down against the Bulldogs
> in the first half. Westfield's offense, that's
> another subject, looked very sloppy, had way too
> many penalties, 12 in the first half alone.
>
> Westfield pulled all their defensive starters at
> half, 2nd then eventually 3rd string players in
> the entire second half. So don't let the score
> fool you, it wasn't even close.
>
> Funny though, since their offense was so sloppy
> the starters for Westfield were left in until the
> beginning of the 4th quarter. Also, their two top
> running backs, Pearson and Monticue, did not
> dress. Both have minor hamstring injuries, coaches
> saving them for SOCO next Friday.

I too believe Westfield should be fine and still my pick for the 6A North. But looking at the Post's stats, it looks like both teams didn't have many first downs at all (10 for Westfield and 8 for W-L), and the penalties probably prevented Westfield from scoring more. I also heard that W-L's QB and backup QB were out for the game, and put a WR in the spot. Good for W-L's limited offense that they were able to string something together in the second half.

These early games are always hard to predict and both teams were missing key players on the offense, but the game was still much, much closer than we all expected.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:44AM

I too believe Westfield should be fine and still my pick for the 6A North. But looking at the Post's stats, it looks like both teams didn't have many first downs at all (10 for Westfield and 8 for W-L), and the penalties probably prevented Westfield from scoring more. I also heard that W-L's QB and backup QB were out for the game, and put a WR in the spot. Good for W-L's limited offense that they were able to string something together in the second half.

These early games are always hard to predict and both teams were missing key players on the offense, but the game was still much, much closer than we all expected.

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W&L had their starting QB in there, at least he was the same guy in the scrimmages who started. All of their first downs came in the 2nd half against the entire 2nd and 3rd string Westfield defense. I mean there was not one starter on defense for the Bulldogs in the second half. So those stats are very misleading to say the least.

Westfield's defense is the real deal, W&L just could go nowhere against their starters. That's probably why they were all pulled, that and coaches didn't want any injuries with SOCO coming up.

Westfield did have several 1st downs and a touchdown called back by penalties. The majority of them were holding on the line but seemed ticky-tacky. I think the refs were also trying to knock the rust off too!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:49AM

C'mon man Wrote:
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> I think the refs were also trying to
> knock the rust off too!

Man, were you at the WestPo/Langley game too?

That crew was horrible. Even the knucklehead running the clock was having issues.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fri night lights ()
Date: September 04, 2015 09:02AM

WS was up 30-0 at half in the playoffs last year against WL. WL isn't very good. WF may be a little down this year however I thought they looked good in their scrimmage

South county over bw

WS wins big

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: still interesting ()
Date: September 04, 2015 09:08AM

C'mon man Wrote:
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> I too believe Westfield should be fine and still
> my pick for the 6A North. But looking at the
> Post's stats, it looks like both teams didn't have
> many first downs at all (10 for Westfield and 8
> for W-L), and the penalties probably prevented
> Westfield from scoring more. I also heard that
> W-L's QB and backup QB were out for the game, and
> put a WR in the spot. Good for W-L's limited
> offense that they were able to string something
> together in the second half.
>
> These early games are always hard to predict and
> both teams were missing key players on the
> offense, but the game was still much, much closer
> than we all expected.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________________
>
> W&L had their starting QB in there, at least he
> was the same guy in the scrimmages who started.
> All of their first downs came in the 2nd half
> against the entire 2nd and 3rd string Westfield
> defense. I mean there was not one starter on
> defense for the Bulldogs in the second half. So
> those stats are very misleading to say the least.
>
> Westfield's defense is the real deal, W&L just
> could go nowhere against their starters. That's
> probably why they were all pulled, that and
> coaches didn't want any injuries with SOCO coming
> up.
>
> Westfield did have several 1st downs and a
> touchdown called back by penalties. The majority
> of them were holding on the line but seemed
> ticky-tacky. I think the refs were also trying to
> knock the rust off too!

I have no dog in this fight and wasn't at the game, but looking at the Wash Post stats and roster, WL's QB should've been Espinoza, and I was told he didn't play at all.

If the kid who threw WL's TD pass in the 4th quarter was the game's QB, the roster says he's actually a WR.

So I'm gonna give W&L a little credit there, for playing w/o a real bona fide QB. At least that what it appears to be.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:02AM

I have no dog in this fight and wasn't at the game, but looking at the Wash Post stats and roster, WL's QB should've been Espinoza, and I was told he didn't play at all.

If the kid who threw WL's TD pass in the 4th quarter was the game's QB, the roster says he's actually a WR.

So I'm gonna give W&L a little credit there, for playing w/o a real bona fide QB. At least that what it appears to be.

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It was #1 who was the QB for W&L, he's listed as a QB/WR on their roster. He started the game and played the entire game at QB. He also was the QB in both their scrimmages against Annandale and Chantilly. He is their starting QB, so not sure what the mix up is.

Once again though, TD pass came late in 4th, at that point there were pretty much just Westfield's starting JV defenders in there. That's what Westfield does, varsity games it's the true varsity players and about 20-30 kids who dress and start at the JV level.

That's how they get their underclassmen prepared for the following season at the varsity level. Go to a JV game at Westfield and half the team has a W, other half nothing on their helmets. The kids with the W's are those that also suit up for varsity.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:38AM

Don't doubt that Westfield Defense would completely dominate WL. Also, understand that Westfield would call the dogs off in the 2nd half. Classy team, expect nothing less. But, 6 to 0 at end of 1st Quarter, 20 to 0 at end of 1st half is not anything resembling a top's in the region offense against a team like WL. Don't tell me about missing RB's etc. The oline should be dominating the defense to the point that the 2nd team guys can run at will. I stand by my statement, at this point, they appear over hyped.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Losing interest ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:42AM

C'mon man Wrote:
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> I have no dog in this fight and wasn't at the
> game, but looking at the Wash Post stats and
> roster, WL's QB should've been Espinoza, and I was
> told he didn't play at all.
>
> If the kid who threw WL's TD pass in the 4th
> quarter was the game's QB, the roster says he's
> actually a WR.
>
> So I'm gonna give W&L a little credit there, for
> playing w/o a real bona fide QB. At least that
> what it appears to be.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________________
>
> It was #1 who was the QB for W&L, he's listed as a
> QB/WR on their roster. He started the game and
> played the entire game at QB. He also was the QB
> in both their scrimmages against Annandale and
> Chantilly. He is their starting QB, so not sure
> what the mix up is.
>
> Once again though, TD pass came late in 4th, at
> that point there were pretty much just Westfield's
> starting JV defenders in there. That's what
> Westfield does, varsity games it's the true
> varsity players and about 20-30 kids who dress and
> start at the JV level.
>
> That's how they get their underclassmen prepared
> for the following season at the varsity level. Go
> to a JV game at Westfield and half the team has a
> W, other half nothing on their helmets. The kids
> with the W's are those that also suit up for
> varsity.

We all like underdog stories, so I'm giving W&L some credit whether or not they played their starting QB or as point in fact Westfield pulled their starters. That's not the point. It wasn't the blowout we all expected. It's no secret the Liberty teams are no match for the Concorde teams except Herndon. Maybe Hayfield. The expectations are very high for Hayfield and the WL Hayfield matchup should be interesting later in the season."

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: miniRB ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:44AM

Westfield still adjusting to new players on offense. Gonna take a few games. SoCo has a real shot at an upset next week. B'get Real - Westfield top RB in that game vs W-L is 5'4", 130 lbs. That ain't gonna cut it in the big boy games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:57AM

Westfield still adjusting to new players on offense. Gonna take a few games. SoCo has a real shot at an upset next week. B'get Real - Westfield top RB in that game vs W-L is 5'4", 130 lbs. That ain't gonna cut it in the big boy games.

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Not going to argue that Westfield's offense isn't overhyped because at this point it is. But they definitely have the pieces, just more like a jigsaw puzzle at this point.


Yep, you said it, and having Monticue or Pearson would make a huge difference. Pearson is a legit player, next to their LB going to Navy, he's the only D1 level football player on the team.

Westfield has no running game without either one of these two kids. The 5'4 kid has a lot of heart but only started cause he's a senior. They played another kid, think a sophomore, much better results. As a matter of fact when he took over is when they started moving the ball.

But the main issue was the penalties, Westfield just had far too many in the first half, all on the offense. There was definitely one, maybe two TD's called back. On a handful of other plays they had huge chunks of yardage erased due to the yellow flags.

The o-line definitely needs to step it up, can't play that sloppy against SOCO or anyone else on their schedule and not expect to get upset. Fortunately Westfield has a phenomenal kicker/punter, and a stout defense. The majority of their special team players are also defensive starters.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:13PM

Only Westfield can win by almost three TDs and internet trolls are all set to say they are overhyped. A win is a win.

And I am not a Westfield fan. My team plays Madison tonight at Oakton. Westfield is the favorite unless proven otherwise.

Next week's game against SoCo should be epic.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: miniRB ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:15PM

Penalties no big deal. Westfield always get boatload of them against lesser teams. Refs like to handicap the game. Happens all the time. won't be so lopsided against even competition.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 04, 2015 12:35PM

Concorde fan, why would Westfield be the favorite until proven otherwise? Are they the defending champ or is it based on hype??

Just curious as to your logic.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: miniRB ()
Date: September 04, 2015 01:04PM

BMC Wrote:
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> Concorde fan, why would Westfield be the favorite
> until proven otherwise? Are they the defending
> champ

Actually, they are the defending concord District champions. Centreville did knock them off in the regional final but W'fld did win the regular season title.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 01:18PM

BMC, their success year and year out is what makes them the team to beat.

If they lose to SoCo, we can revisit that assumption. They have the best coaching staff, and they usually trot out the most kids, and every year, with different personnel, they are competing for the region title. Centreville has been good lately, true, but before the Ken Ekanem era (pre-2010), they had sub-500 seasons. Other teams have had good 1-3 year runs (Oakton, Robinson, Langley, LB, etc) but year after year, the consistency of Westfield has won out. I tip my hat to them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wuck festfield ()
Date: September 04, 2015 01:34PM

wuck em

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Steve17 ()
Date: September 04, 2015 01:53PM

I think Soco beats Briar Woods tonight despite losing most of their big D line. Mike sals throws well and can get out of the backfield for some decent gains. Dont see them losing this one

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: storm fields ()
Date: September 04, 2015 02:03PM

IS it supposed to rain tonight?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: look at the weather ()
Date: September 04, 2015 02:11PM

Look at the weather forecast dumbass

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 04, 2015 02:20PM

Concorde fan, well expressed. I agree on most points. The history with Centreville, probably more relevant since Haddock has been in place. Appearance in 3 of the last 4 State Championships I would say outweighs your Westfield points. Westfield has not been to a state Game since 2007. Pretty long time.

Westfield, Great program! but, until Centreville is dethroned they are the team that should get the nod until proven otherwise.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Annandale Fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 02:43PM

Like Elvis, Westfield has chocked on their sandwich and died on the crapper every year for the last couple season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 02:51PM

And Annandale hasn't even unwrapped their hoagie since when - the 1980s?????

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You both are idiots ()
Date: September 04, 2015 03:01PM

Annandale Fan: "Has chocked on their sandwich.." They wedged it?? No. It's spelled "choked" Go ahead and blame autocorrect.

Westfield Fan: "since when - the 1980s?????" Want to add in some more exclamation marks???????? They won two State Championships in the 90s smart guy.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You both are idiots ()
Date: September 04, 2015 03:04PM

"Want to add more QUESTON marks?????" Damn autocorrect.... 8)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 04, 2015 05:01PM

BMC Wrote:
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> ...until Centreville
> is dethroned they are the team that should get the
> nod until proven otherwise.

That's what I've been saying. I don't see any reason to believe they aren't as good or better than anyone else in 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: so what ()
Date: September 04, 2015 05:18PM

and who are you - the world's expert on football

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GOSANDIMAS ()
Date: September 04, 2015 06:13PM

San Dimas High School Football rules.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: San Dimas local ()
Date: September 04, 2015 07:15PM

San Dimas are the Mid Valley CIF champions. They would destroy Westfields. California prep football is for real.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: emnDL ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:10PM

San Dimas local Wrote:
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> San Dimas are the Mid Valley CIF champions. They
> would destroy Westfields. California prep football
> is for real.

Very funny. San Dimas had a MAXPREPS national ranking of 4895 last year - Westfield was ranked 377. But then again you said Westfields - so perhaps you weren't referring to Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:49PM

End of third quarter. Centreville 20, Annandale 17

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:17PM

What an ugly game Cville. At least 5 turnovers. Squeaked out a win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cOugar OO ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:19PM

Hey Madison...nOpe. O-wnership.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: King leonitis ()
Date: September 04, 2015 10:52PM

WS over Robinson. Wild game

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 05, 2015 12:15AM

First week is always a little tough but nice first week of football.

Chantilly (-10.0) @ W.T. Woodson
*Chantilly won 31-14; was up 31-0. I went to this one and I am less optimistic about Woodson's rise than I was before. Their receivers are slow and any team with a decent secondary can match up and stuff the run. On the other hand, Chantilly's QB had 4 passing TDs and I think he's the best QB Chantilly has had in years. Great accuracy, good zip on the ball, and made good reads throughout the night. Chantilly is better than I thought they'd be.

Hayfield (-20.0) @ Edison
*Hayfield won 21-0, good spread

Herndon @ Fairfax (-6.5)
*Fairfax won 22-0. Good win for the Rebels.

West Potomac @ Langley (-8.5)
*West Potomac won 41-28. The Wolverines are faster than I thought, this is a decent football team.

Westfield (-40.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Westfield won 30-10. Westfield is my pick to win the region this year, but this is the most open it has been in quite some time. I cannot wait for the matchup with South County next week.


Friday – September 4, 2015

Briar Woods @ South County (-7.0)
*South County won 47-28. Big performance for the Stallions who led comfortably throughout and a win for Fairfax in the first of many great Fairfax-Loudoun showdowns.

Broad Run (-14.0) @ Wakefield
*Broad Run dominated 40-6

Centreville (-31.0) @ Annandale
*Centreville won 27-17. Curious to follow both of these teams. I saw Centreville had a number of turnovers and let Annandale back in the game, but from what I've heard Annandale is considerably better and a team worth checking out.

Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Lee
*Lake Braddock won 69-0.

Madison (-1.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton won 31-25. Good win for the Concorde as Oakton continues to dominate this series.

McLean @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
*Stone Bridge won 42-6

Robinson @ West Springfield (-6.0)
*West Springfield won 35-28; great spread.

South Lakes (-10.0) @ Marshall
*South Lakes won 52-8. Strong performance for Coach Taylor's crew.

Stuart @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
*Mount Vernon won 39-9, wins first game in over a year. This does not look good for Stuart.

TC Williams (-35.0) @ Thomas Jefferson
*TC Williams won 65-0.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL1982 ()
Date: September 05, 2015 07:37AM

South Lakes looked great... They dominated a very good Marshall team. SL-Briar Woods should be the game of the week next week. I expect SL to edge it by a score or two.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: r u kidding ()
Date: September 05, 2015 08:03AM

Are you kidding me.....a very good Marshall team?????????????????????????

Game of the week next week is clearly Westfield and SOCO.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 05, 2015 08:26AM

All 3 Arlington County schools were soundly defeated this week:

Broad Run 40, Wakefield 6
Westfield 30, Washington-Lee 10
Woodrow Wilson 55, Yorktown 22

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: current status ()
Date: September 05, 2015 12:14PM

So after this week's games looks like 6A pecking order in the North is perhaps something like this......discuss

South County
Westfield
Lake Braddock
Centreville
West Springfield
Battlefield
Oakton
Chantilly
Robinson
TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not the current status ()
Date: September 05, 2015 12:25PM

South county actually gets less Power points for playing a 5A school. So if we're talking about current status the previous post must be incorrect.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not not the current status ()
Date: September 05, 2015 12:32PM

Don't care about power points right now, just listed the top ten in terms of quality of team.....now discuss Mr. Technicality.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO SUX ()
Date: September 05, 2015 12:37PM

SOCO and Lake Braddock - best regular season teams ever - but will choke at the end because Patriot league is a bunch of pussies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 05, 2015 01:02PM

Top ten looks reasonable. I'd say as wide open of a race as there's been in a long time. Hard to know if LB or TCW are as good as score indicates, but have to take notice now.

SoCo vs Westfield will be fun to watch. Based on week 1, thinking some of those D5 match-ups could be rough on the Fairfax teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: changeroo ()
Date: September 05, 2015 01:13PM

Ok list, would make these changes and adds

Westfield
South County
Lake Braddock
Centreville
Battlefield
West Springfield
Oakton
Chantilly
TCW
Robinson
West Potomac
Annandale

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: September 05, 2015 01:36PM

changeroo Wrote:
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> Ok list, would make these changes and adds
>
> Westfield
> South County
> Lake Braddock
> Centreville
> Battlefield
> West Springfield
> Oakton
> Chantilly
> TCW
> Robinson
> West Potomac
> Annandale

After this weekend, West Po should be on this list; that was a good win for them. I also agree with adding Annandale. I went to that game. Annandale easily could have given up after they got down 20-0, but they didn't quit, fought back, and gave Centreville all they could handle. They had a couple of trips into Centreville territory that resulted in no points; had they scored, the outcome could have been different.

I wouldn't be ranking TCW in the top ten (or 12, which is what this list is) based solely on beating TJ. Also, Madison played Oakton close, so I'm not sure that Oakton is top ten material.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL1982 ()
Date: September 05, 2015 01:46PM

South Lakes has to be in the top 10. They won 52-8 and beat Oakton in their scrimmage.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: September 05, 2015 01:47PM

SOCO SUX Wrote:
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> SOCO and Lake Braddock - best regular season teams
> ever - but will choke at the end because Patriot
> league is a bunch of pussies

I wouldn't be so sure of this. If you look at this weekend's results, you would have to conclude that Patriot outperformed Concorde. Patriot teams combined for a 6-2 record (a .750 winning percentage). Wins: Mt. Vernon, TCW, West Po, West Springfield, Lake Braddock, South County. The only losses were Annandale and Woodson. Annandale was very competitive with a supposedly strong Centreville team, and looked good despite the losing effort. The only Patriot team that looked bad was Woodson (perhaps the talk about Woodson being a beast this year can die down).

Concord was 4-2 (a .667 winning percentage). Wins: Centreville (over Annandale), Westfield (over WL), Oakton (over Madison), Chantilly (over Woodson). Losses: Robinson (to West Springfield) Herndon (to Fairfax)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thanks for a good laugh ()
Date: September 05, 2015 02:07PM

SL1982 Wrote:
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> South Lakes has to be in the top 10. They won 52-8
> and beat Oakton in their scrimmage.


Let's put this victory in perspective. They beat Marshall. That is the same Marshall that went 2-8 last year, and only got two wins because they were lucky enough to have TJ and Stuart on their schedule. That's also the same Marshall team that was 0-10 each of the previous two seasons (2013 and 2012).

Among Liberty Conference teams, I'm more impressed by Hayfield's win over Edison and Fairfax's win over Herndon. Of course, and to SL's credit, they at least got a win, which is more than can be said about the other five teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Great season ahead.... ()
Date: September 05, 2015 02:59PM

It is too bad the the D5 powers from Loudoun are all down just a bit from years' past.

Stone Bridge is the best of the bunch this year, but even in a down year, the Big Four from Loudoun will continue to roll over D5's from Fairfax and Arlington. They might even take down some of the D6 playoff teams.

And I have to agree with a previous post. Beating Marshall, TJ, Stuart et al tells you nothing about a particular team. Those schools should just give up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jagger ()
Date: September 05, 2015 03:40PM

What about Falls Church and Wakefield? They should be the top D5 teams coming out of the Northern Region?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who give a buck ()
Date: September 05, 2015 03:41PM

nobody cares about the D5 teams....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who gives a buck ()
Date: September 05, 2015 03:47PM

Thats cool, and all. However, besides the likes of Westfield, centreville, Braddock, those to D5 schools can either beat or compete with all the other D6 schools. Demographic change across the region, make everythings a bit even.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: just doesn't matter ()
Date: September 05, 2015 06:23PM

It just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter. The confirmed cheaters, read the internet dummy, at Ocean Lakes from the beach will steal another state title. So Northern region teams, have fun trying to win the Northern Region but expect to get stiffed again at States.

Signed,
The All Knowing One

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Justice department ()
Date: September 05, 2015 07:56PM

Ocean Lakes under new Executive Order is allowed to "re-align" kids home Domicile, it's not fair all those Northern Region Kids have so much Privilege! Cheaters do win and win and win and win in the ol Tidewater!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cheataz ()
Date: September 06, 2015 06:49AM

Momma always said cheataz never posper

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Nation ()
Date: September 06, 2015 02:53PM

Soco beats Wfield this week, bet on it

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: September 06, 2015 03:21PM

Soco beats Wfield this week, bet on it

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Guess that's why they play the game. Just remember, Briar Woods is not the team of the past, lost talent when Rockridge HS opened this year.

Also, Westfield's defense is far better than what SOCO faced this past weekend.

Either way looking forward to it, game of the week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yes so fast ()
Date: September 06, 2015 03:46PM

Yes so fast - SOCO dominates everyone this year even Lake Braddock

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: So Co inmates run the asylum ()
Date: September 06, 2015 04:57PM

So co is Talented A to Z the question is not about talent it's about Discipline, can they limit the turnovers, can they limit the unsportsmanlike conducts, can they line up and play Football and leave the Shenanigans in the Locker Room...that's what Champions Do...they will get their test..sooner as opposed to later this year...Westfield Learns and Grows from their losses...Will SOCO is the Question!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO sux ()
Date: September 06, 2015 06:35PM

Westfield wins by two touchdowns, go DAWGS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ok whatever ()
Date: September 06, 2015 08:11PM

ok you got it

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rivalry fan ()
Date: September 07, 2015 01:24AM

How was west Springfield vs Robinson? I hear both look to be competitive teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 07, 2015 01:43AM

Week 2 offers a lot of great games. There are a lot of games that could go either way and some big hypothetical spreads that will be challenging to cover.

Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
*Annandale looked nice week 1, if they give the Bruins a good game that will say a lot about the talent on Annandale’s roster.

Briar Woods (-10.0) @ South Lakes
*South Lakes has an opportunity to garner some talk with a good performance Friday. With Briar Woods off to their first 0-2 start, maybe ever, I look for a strong performance from them though.

Broad Run (-7.0) @ Langley

Edison @ West Potomac (-20.0)

Fairfax @ Centreville (-21.0)
*Centreville bounces back after letting their opponent back in game 1.

Herndon (-14.0) @ Stuart

Jefferson @ Washington Lee (-31.0)

Lee @ Chantilly (-35.0)

Marshall @ McLean (-14.0)

Potomac Falls @ Falls Church (-3.5)
*This game could go either way, don’t have a great idea about either school, but on paper it should be a good one.

South County @ Westfield (-7.0)
*Definitely game of the week right here. This could definitely go either way as the Stallions historically come out of the gate very fast and definitely had the more impressive week 1 performance. Gut says pick South County, but going to go with the head and Westfield. Regardless of the outcome this early on, I do think come November Westfield is the team to beat.

Stone Bridge (-17.0) @ Madison

TC Williams @ Oakton (-3.0)
*Great opportunity for TC Williams to showcase their abilities this year. Oakton will key on their playmakers though and I like them in a close game.

Tuscarora @ Hayfield (-6.0)
*Behind Westfield and South County, this is a game-of-the-week caliber matchup that could go either way. Definitely should be a game worth going to and another great one in the Fairfax-Loudoun series.

Woodson @ Robinson (-17.0)

Wakefield @ Yorktown (-6.0)

West Springfield (-28.0) @ Mount Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ncuvt ()
Date: September 07, 2015 06:43AM

Wildcats suck

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I agree baby ()
Date: September 07, 2015 07:31AM

Yep the Kansas State Wildcats do indeed blow this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: go LB go ()
Date: September 07, 2015 10:54AM

Lake Braddock is the best this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: PCC ()
Date: September 07, 2015 12:29PM

West Springfield has strong skill position players from WR, QB, and secondary. Also the line has many returners, close game with Robinson and both teams played till the last whistle. Robinson had a strong backfield and tried to dominate line of scrimmage

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Springfield/Robinson ()
Date: September 07, 2015 01:27PM

WSvRob was a great game. Rob has good backs and really wore down WS. However they got stops when necessary. WS is explosive on offense. Looks like the northern region champs may come from the old patriot conference. I've seen both LB and SC play and they look more talented than WS. Annandale may be improved but they lost their best player from last year. Centreville may of had a bad night but that can't happen against those other teams. WFvSoco should be a good game. Won't be shocked if soco wins but wouldn't bet against WF.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bet against WF ()
Date: September 07, 2015 05:01PM

SOCO NATION RULES

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: help us ()
Date: September 07, 2015 08:33PM

so sad to see Lee's program so awful.

what is going on at that school?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You Read Here First ()
Date: September 08, 2015 07:17AM

I believe TCW will beat Oakton this friday and pronounce a new era for the Titans.

They aren't quite ready for prime time yet, but they will be good enough to win by 10 or more at Oakton.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concordless ()
Date: September 08, 2015 10:38AM

Soco will disappoint once again. Everyone knows their talented but their coaches do not instill good football. Too many penalties, take too many chances and too many risky/trick plays. At some point the penalties and turnovers come back to haunt you. Even if they beat WF they'll find a way to blow it down the line. Will they be able to stop LB and WS passing attack?

Looks like the concord is losing some of it's luster. The #1 seed will go to a patriot team this year.

SC opened up with BW and WF

LB will play Robinson and centreville

WS plays Robinson, SC, LB and stone bridge

Centreville plays Tuscarora and LB

Playoff seeding this year should reflect fairness due to the match ups of top teams on everyone's schedule

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nonsense boy ()
Date: September 08, 2015 11:59AM

Patriot teams better put their money where the mouth is. I would still put my bet on Westfield or Centreville until LB, SOCO, WS can play well when it really counts....good luck.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hmmmm ()
Date: September 08, 2015 12:11PM

I would disagree with the fairness in the playoff seedings. Not everyone in the 6A North is being required to play 2 games against 5A schools. This gives an edge to those only playing 6A across the board.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 5a/6a ()
Date: September 08, 2015 01:36PM

Required??? That's wrong

Nobody is required to play 5a school. Coaches get an option to choose their out of conference schedule. It's not automatic but most teams usually get 1 of their top 3 choices. Do if a 6a team picks three 6a opponents chances are there won't be any 5a teams on their schedule unless a 5a team picks them which hardly happens because Stuart isn't going to choose centreville as their opponent that they want to face. Pleas learn how schedule works in the northern region

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truthyness ()
Date: September 08, 2015 01:45PM

The DSA's make the schedule with the coaches recommendations. The coaches usually get a couple of their 1st choices and then get stuck with 2 or 3 games that they didn't want. The Concorde schools got "stuck" with multiple Division 5 games that the rest of the 6A schools did not. It will hurt them come playoff time and it is sad that the other conferences, who are afraid to play the Concorde schools, voted to do this to them. They could have easily sent each school to play 1 5A school instead of sending some 0 times and others twice.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde is it ()
Date: September 08, 2015 02:12PM

Bottom line is Concorde IS Northern Region football until the other districts start doing something about it. As I look across state champions from the north in the last 15-20 years I see Westfield (multiple), Cville (multiple), Robinson, Oakton, Chantilly, etc. I do not see LB, SOCO, TCW, Annandale (ok back in 1992 but who gives a shit that far back). Hylton as well back in the day but they are now in the south.

Also Loudon 5A teams are on the rise but foolish to compare their track record to the Concorde dominance at this point. Give that some time, plus we will see how the 6A/5A contests go this year.

CONCORDE RULES, DEAL WITH IT

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde fannnn ()
Date: September 08, 2015 02:36PM

5a/6a Wrote:
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> Required??? That's wrong
>
> Nobody is required to play 5a school. Coaches get
> an option to choose their out of conference
> schedule. It's not automatic but most teams
> usually get 1 of their top 3 choices. Do if a 6a
> team picks three 6a opponents chances are there
> won't be any 5a teams on their schedule unless a
> 5a team picks them which hardly happens because
> Stuart isn't going to choose centreville as their
> opponent that they want to face. Pleas learn how
> schedule works in the northern region

Sorry, but you are the one who needs to learn a few things. Do you think CVHS, Westfield, etc. actually asked to play the 5A schools?!? No. They listed those schools at the bottom of their wish list, and are still being required to play two of them. This wouldn't be a big deal if EVERYONE in the 6A North had to do the same. But they don't. Thruthyness summed it up correctly in his email. Centreville didn't ASK to play Tuscarora or Broad Run, they were told "This is who you are playing."

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NorthernRegion ()
Date: September 08, 2015 02:53PM

This is a hollow argument. The 5A schools that they'll be playing against will give them big boosts in power points if they win because those schools will accumulate more wins of their own over the course of the season.

It's far better for your power rating to beat Tuscarora or Stone Bridge than it is to beat, say, Herndon or McLean. If the big time Concorde schools want to cry about having to play excellent 5A programs because they're afraid of losing, that's fine, but the argument about getting one less power point just because of them being in 5A is specious at best.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LCccC ()
Date: September 08, 2015 03:35PM

Maybe. Maybe not. Briar Woods is 0-2.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 5a/6a ()
Date: September 08, 2015 03:36PM

Concorde entitlement taken to another level. So clueless

"It's not automatic...."

You obviously didn't read my entire statement. Nobody can outright pick their schedule but to think the Concorde is being put against 5a teams for lower playoff seeding your delusional. Do you think Edison or falls church willingly put the Concorde teams in their top 15 choices? Not only is it a mismatch but that's how you get kids hurt.

With your reasoning WS is being forced to play stone bridge and soco being forced to play briar woods. So what's this notion Concorde teams are the only ones being shafted?

When coaches are at mount Vernon their dsa doesn't listen to them but your saying WF and their DSA aren't on the same page? Get real

Concorde rules huh? Didn't Robinson give up 35 points this weekend?

System isn't perfect but if both teams are on the bottom of each other's wish list the match up usually doesn't happen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: pop goes the weasel ()
Date: September 08, 2015 04:16PM

Well Patriot and Loudon fans, please wait to pop off until your district or County for that sake have won nearly as much as Concorde team (and I went back to VHSL history book) -


Centreville 2000, 2013 runners up 2011, 2014
Westfield 2003, 2007
Oakton 2005 runners up 2002
Robinson 1997, 2001 runners up 2004
Chantilly 1996 runners up 2006


For those of you who cannot count that is in the last twenty years 8 state championships and 5 runners up in the state game from one district!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody want to try to pony up better results than that from one district let alone a county???? Best of luck suckas....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true that ()
Date: September 08, 2015 04:22PM

great post on the state championships and 2nd place finishes accomplished by Concorde teams....complete lunacy to say that quality in NOVA football starts anywhere else, Loudon and Patriot - earn your keep and then we will talk

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true that ()
Date: September 08, 2015 04:25PM

And just to be clear I respect that Tuscarora, Briar Woods, Lake Braddock, SOCO, etc. have gotten close but need to get over the hump and do it consistently to start a true "border war" with the Concorde teams....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: September 08, 2015 04:58PM

This is a hollow argument. The 5A schools that they'll be playing against will give them big boosts in power points if they win because those schools will accumulate more wins of their own over the course of the season.

It's far better for your power rating to beat Tuscarora or Stone Bridge than it is to beat, say, Herndon or McLean. If the big time Concorde schools want to cry about having to play excellent 5A programs because they're afraid of losing, that's fine, but the argument about getting one less power point just because of them being in 5A is specious at best.

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I'm pretty certain this is inaccurate. Power points are wins/losses, the significance is what division, 6A, 5A, etc. I don't think the record of the 5A team has anything to do with it.

I'm also pretty sure these schedules were set up prior to the whole power point system currently in place. Big article prior to the season stating that when the current system was developed no one took into consideration the significance of playing "down" so to speak.

Remember last year, Westfield was 9-1, Centreville was 8-2, Centreville lost to Westfield in regular season. Centreville was the #1 seed and Westfield the #2, regional championship game was at CVHS instead of Westfield. Reason why, Westfield played one 5A team, Stone Bridge, and nine 6A schools. Centreville played Gonzaga and nine 6A schools.

Even more of a glitch in the system is Centreville's total point were divided by 9 games, Gonzaga wasn't a factor since it wasn't a VA school or part of the system. Westfield's points were divided by 10, and they still earned less with the Stone Bridge win even though Stone Bridge had a good record. Was all about being a 5A not 6A school.

I also don't think Concorde teams are afraid of playing Loudon teams, They're just pissed that it will adversely affect them in terms of power points. The way the system is currently set up say Westfield or Centreville goes undefeated as does a South County or Lake Braddock. The old Patriot conference teams would have a higher point ranking since they played either zero or one 5A school compared to Westfield or Centreville playing two apiece.


They just need to tweak the system somehow so teams don't get penalized for playing different classifications. In the end there's no difference in terms of quality in a lot of these schools, just the number of students. One of the reasons why Westfield has played Stone Bridge for so long is because they were looking to play quality teams outside of their conference games. Both Simmons and Verbanic before him has a philosophy you only get better by playing better competition.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nHVGC ()
Date: September 08, 2015 05:10PM

pop goes the weasel Wrote:
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> Well Patriot and Loudon fans, please wait to pop
> off until your district or County for that sake
> have won nearly as much as Concorde team (and I
> went back to VHSL history book) -
>
>
> Centreville 2000, 2013 runners up 2011,
> 2014
> Westfield 2003, 2007
> Oakton 2005 runners up 2002
> Robinson 1997, 2001 runners up 2004
> Chantilly 1996 runners up 2006
>
>
> For those of you who cannot count that is in the
> last twenty years 8 state championships and 5
> runners up in the state game from one
> district!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Anybody want to try to pony up better results than
> that from one district let alone a county????
> Best of luck suckas....




Wanna know a secret? Robinson was in the Patriot District for all of their state titles...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who gives a wuck ()
Date: September 08, 2015 08:07PM

They are in the Concorde now as swipe

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde turd ()
Date: September 09, 2015 06:39AM

the Concorde was once a cool meteorite that Joe Dirte ate his French fries off of but now is really a big turd that was dropped from an airplane crapper.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coco chanel ()
Date: September 09, 2015 07:34AM

I think the boys from the concorde teams are the cutest

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 09, 2015 08:07AM

5a/6a Wrote:
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> Concorde entitlement taken to another level. So
> clueless
>
> "It's not automatic...."
>
> You obviously didn't read my entire statement.
> Nobody can outright pick their schedule but to
> think the Concorde is being put against 5a teams
> for lower playoff seeding your delusional. Do you
> think Edison or falls church willingly put the
> Concorde teams in their top 15 choices? Not only
> is it a mismatch but that's how you get kids hurt.
>
>
> With your reasoning WS is being forced to play
> stone bridge and soco being forced to play briar
> woods. So what's this notion Concorde teams are
> the only ones being shafted?
>
> When coaches are at mount Vernon their dsa doesn't
> listen to them but your saying WF and their DSA
> aren't on the same page? Get real
>
> Concorde rules huh? Didn't Robinson give up 35
> points this weekend?
>
> System isn't perfect but if both teams are on the
> bottom of each other's wish list the match up
> usually doesn't happen.

Put your tinfoil hats away. It's not just the "Concorde district" that is having to play 5A teams. Look around. Braddock is playing Lee. West Potomac has Edison and Briar Woods. South County has Briar Woods. West Springfield has Stone Bridge and Lee.

It all comes out in the wash . . .

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 09, 2015 08:18AM

So, is this the week we get to see Westfield's first team running backs? I think they need the full arsenal against SoCo.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:04AM

So, is this the week we get to see Westfield's first team running backs? I think they need the full arsenal against SoCo.

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Just Monticue, rumor is Pearson is either injured or suspended.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wassup with that ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:10AM

Hasn't Pearson been injured or suspended for about three years now? Wassup with that?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: that is westfield for ya ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:17AM

just another malcontent like all of the players on Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:22AM

If WF staff keeps Pearson on the team shame on them. It will leak out and staff integrity will become an issue.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: blackholeatoms ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:31AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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>
> Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> *Annandale looked nice week 1, if they give the
> Bruins a good game that will say a lot about the
> talent on Annandale’s roster.

-14? Lake Braddock is going to overwhelm this team - final score = 52-14 LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: September 09, 2015 09:46AM

just another malcontent like all of the players on Westfield

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Nope, just another dumb kid with potential but can't seem to stay out of trouble. I think if you look Westfield has had very few problems over the years so not sure where your statement comes from. Two kids in two years going to West Point and the Naval Academy, not too many programs in the area can boast that. I'm pretty sure the coaches do as good if not better job than anywhere else in the area at dumping problem players regardless of their ability. Just an observation from a fan that's followed the program since its inception and a parent of a former player.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: oceanlakescheetahs ()
Date: September 09, 2015 10:33AM

Justice department Wrote:
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> Ocean Lakes under new Executive Order is allowed
> to "re-align" kids home Domicile, it's not fair
> all those Northern Region Kids have so much
> Privilege! Cheaters do win and win and win and win
> in the ol Tidewater!

Cheaters still cheating:
http://hamptonroads.com/2015/09/suspension-ocean-lakes-football-coach-extended-2-weeks

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 09, 2015 11:12AM

Justice department Wrote:
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> Ocean Lakes under new Executive Order is allowed
> to "re-align" kids home Domicile, it's not fair
> all those Northern Region Kids have so much
> Privilege! Cheaters do win and win and win and win
> in the ol Tidewater!

Cheaters still cheating:
http://hamptonroads.com/2015/09/suspension-ocean-lakes-football-coach-extended-2-weeks

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Wow, and he's still the head coach at Ocean Lakes even though he violated the rules of his suspension while on suspension! That's just crazy, if I'm reading it correctly it appears that it's not his first time being caught.

Not a Centreville fan but maybe they should award them the championship that was obviously tarnished by Ocean Lakes and their cheating head coach. Could you imagine if last years Centreville team had a couple top players from Westfield, Lake Braddock, SOCO on it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bullshit of course ()
Date: September 09, 2015 11:18AM

A NR team got taken away from it a back to back championship due to cheating from the beach team Ocean Lakes. They still took those cheaters to overtime regardless. FUCC OCEAN LAKES!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: September 09, 2015 11:22AM

blackholeatoms Wrote:
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> steve k2* Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> > *Annandale looked nice week 1, if they give the
> > Bruins a good game that will say a lot about
> the
> > talent on Annandale’s roster.
>
> -14? Lake Braddock is going to overwhelm this
> team - final score = 52-14 LB.

Overwhelm? No way. I watched Annandale play Centreville, and I can tell you that is a good, and well-coached team. LB may win out in the end, but no way is Annandale getting overwhelmed by anyone.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: beach teams suck ()
Date: September 09, 2015 12:01PM

Beach teams down south have always been known to be cheaters, just the latest example

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wow did not know ()
Date: September 09, 2015 12:22PM

That is sad to see about Ocean Lakes, looks like they stole a championship last year from Centreville

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bet the House ()
Date: September 09, 2015 12:56PM

This is the Week that SOCO gets to Play Westfield's JV Roster, Hope they Game plan for the Right Team.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Big Rumors ()
Date: September 09, 2015 01:32PM

Hearing rumors Westfield may be without more players then Pearson.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fannandale ()
Date: September 09, 2015 01:37PM

Football fan Wrote:
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> blackholeatoms Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > steve k2* Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> > > *Annandale looked nice week 1, if they give
> the
> > > Bruins a good game that will say a lot about
> > the
> > > talent on Annandale’s roster.
> >
> > -14? Lake Braddock is going to overwhelm this
> > team - final score = 52-14 LB.
>
> Overwhelm? No way. I watched Annandale play
> Centreville, and I can tell you that is a good,
> and well-coached team. LB may win out in the end,
> but no way is Annandale getting overwhelmed by
> anyone.

LB only won by 11 last year but that was the Braddock JV team playing so it could be another close one

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truth in Posting ()
Date: September 09, 2015 01:38PM

What happened at Westfield? Clearly this is more than a malcontent. Spill the beans!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cesspool ()
Date: September 09, 2015 01:41PM

Westfield is a cesspool of lies, misdirection, and idolatry.....it is coming back to haunt them

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: JV teams ()
Date: September 09, 2015 01:53PM

WF would make excuses. You are only as good as your last game. Buckle up WF and play ball

LB always making excuses. Apparently WS beat your JV team last year and must have been that same JV team in the playoffs trailing by 3 with 2 seconds left

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bet the House ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:02PM

No excuses from WF simply check which Starters take the field and which don't for Week 2. How many other teams in 6A/5A could lose 8 Starters and still Field a team Let alone Compete...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: scandal at Westfield ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:17PM

Scandal it must be, what is being hidden at Westfield? Scandal I say...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wassup at Westfield ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:21PM

What is the scandal at Westfield, do tell!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No Scandal ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:23PM

No scandal, just a couple idiots acting like idiots and apparently got suspended. Not sure how many but it seems most of them were on offense. Also not sure it's just this game, could be more. Kind of like what happened to Chantilly at the end of last season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: heard there is a scandal at WF ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:28PM

Heard from a friend that there is a scandal with Westfield football. Does anyone know what is going on?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bet the House ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:32PM

See FCPS Participation Policy Section A. 30 Day Ineligibility.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I hear something ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:41PM

I understand that Westfield is going to scrap their football program due to some scandal, can anyone explain what is going on?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Eagle Scout ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:47PM

MY Kid is a freshmen, normally Plays Offensive Line however this week he has been running first team tailback with Varsity he will run All over SOCO his Buddy who is also a first year player/Freshmen is also getting the Start at Wid.e Receiver we expect SOCO wont Know what hit them. Great Game plan if you ask

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MadAlum ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:48PM

Cougar country part two Wrote:
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> Koshuta is going to run all over the Oakton D
> Line. Cardelli won't know what hit him.

Kashuta got in for like 30 seconds. His parents should have sent him go to a private school. Mad hires too many dads as coaches, who quit ance their kid graduates. The kid is stuck behind a coachs son. NOt how you build a program.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield-gate ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:50PM

you want the truth? You can't handle the truth. Scandal-ridden Westfield fb team will be dethroned by bigger faster stronger Soco nation fb team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO gate ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:57PM

Of course SOCO will win and so will Lake Braddock ....in fact they will both go 10-0 and end up in the Northern Region finals where in the first known instance of such happening they will both find a way to lose the same game and the Northern Region will have to find Cville or Wfield to take over at the state finals.

SOCO AND LB SUX WHEN IT COUNTS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BULLDOG PARENT ()
Date: September 09, 2015 02:58PM

No Scandal, 7 or 8 starters being selfish, obviously not comprehending the team first concept. they got caught being stupid and are now paying the 30 day consequence. As for the Coaches, they should be commended they enforced the policy the Kids/Parents all signed...and they are moving forward. As a previous Poster stated "name another 6A/5A team that could lose that Many starters and still field a team much less compete" Hats-Off to all the other young men who kept their Noses Clean and did not jeopardize the Program. So Westfields Gets a #4 or #5 seed come November We MOve On!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bueCV ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:02PM

BULLDOG PARENT Wrote:
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> No Scandal, 7 or 8 starters being selfish,
> obviously not comprehending the team first
> concept. they got caught being stupid and are now
> paying the 30 day consequence. As for the Coaches,
> they should be commended they enforced the policy
> the Kids/Parents all signed...and they are moving
> forward. As a previous Poster stated "name
> another 6A/5A team that could lose that Many
> starters and still field a team much less compete"
> Hats-Off to all the other young men who kept
> their Noses Clean and did not jeopardize the
> Program. So Westfields Gets a #4 or #5 seed come
> November We MOve On!


I knew losing Principal Thomas was going to come back and bite... he would have found a way "fix" this problem.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: e-Gore ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:05PM

There will be no sledding in North America anymore due to Global Warming.

Sincerely,

Al

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Uncle Guido ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:05PM

Tim Thomas has enough problems to "FIX" at Annandale!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield vs Ocean Lakes ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:08PM

I vote then for Westfield against Ocean Lakes in the Scandal Bowl for the state championship. It is what we all deserve....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield idiots ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:22PM

Hey I just made the starting team for Westfield, one of the best football teams in Virginia. Oh no now I cannot play for a month because I am a dumbshit and I cannot follow simple rules.

See you guys serving McDonald's hamburgers next year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ha ha ha ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:25PM

good one, Westfield sux

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scandal gate ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:26PM

Soco penitentiary fb sq would be the better team to take on the convicts at ocean lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C-vile ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:32PM

Centreville went to back to back state championships playing two way players. WF needs to man up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cuck Fentreville ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:40PM

Who cares about Centreville, they are old news

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not so fast ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:44PM

Underestimate Cville at your own risk and peril bubba

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:52PM

The good news for Westfield is that only one of the suspended kids is on defense, the strength of their team. Think I heard it was a secondary player so their D will still be stout. I agree with the previous post, look over the past few years at the 5A/6A teams who've won championships. The one thing they all have in common is a handful of two way players. Westfield for years has had their star players practice on both sides but come big games not have them play both ways. If they want to ever win another title they should follow the model that just about every recent champion has had, two way players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nckcy ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:54PM

High school football is the most important thing in the world.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:56PM

I also agree with the previous post that talked about the selfishness of the handful of idiots who put themselves before the team. The Westfield coaches should send a message to this as well as all future teams and just cut these kids. They obviously don't care about their teammates or team, if they did they wouldn't have acted so foolishly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yep you got it ()
Date: September 09, 2015 03:58PM

High school football is third most important thing in world after pro and college football unless you are a pansy

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what did they do? ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:19PM

So what did they do that merits them being called "idiots?" Spill the beans!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:31PM

That's a positive way to look at losing some players. Keep the strength of the team strong, shut em out, and play for the tie.

Hate to see kids lose a big part of their senior season. Yeah, yeah, I know they knew the rules, but my guess is, in the scheme of life, it wasn't that big of transgression.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:41PM

So what did they do that merits them being called "idiots?" Spill the beans!

-----------------------------------

Rumor has it there were red cups involved.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: always the red cup ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:46PM

Of course it was. I have no idea but what else could it be, had to be one of (1) red cupping, (2) messing with curfews, (3) breaking some other law, or (4) pulling a stupid, unwelcome move on some young women.

Nice job asswipes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: rumorstarter ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:48PM

Soco players no doubt confused. Rumor has it coaches SUPPLY the red cups there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: this is one of my boys ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:48PM

You bad people stop with these unfounded rumors and accusations. My boy hurts more than enough.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stupid one ()
Date: September 09, 2015 04:54PM

Then Madam that makes you one of the stupid ones, doesn't it?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:01PM

Let's Go Bulldogs! How many players does this involve? Will they be back got Conference Games?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hmmmmm ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:04PM

always the red cup Wrote:
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> Of course it was. I have no idea but what else
> could it be, had to be one of (1) red cupping, (2)
> messing with curfews, (3) breaking some other law,
> or (4) pulling a stupid, unwelcome move on some
> young women.
>
> Nice job asswipes.


5) hiring and then killing illegal immigrants to avoid paying them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Virginia Run ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:08PM

Thankfully my ass wipe kid got busted partying the other night, now his mother will chew his a$$ for the next 30 days and leave me alone about my Ashley Madison transgressions!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Solo Cup ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:12PM

The purpose of the Red Solo Cup is deniability, that's why the SOCO kids still play and WF boys hold Aluminum and get suspended...more than one lesson can be learned from Fridays matchup... Better wipe those social media accounts..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:20PM

Let's Go Bulldogs! How many players does this involve? Will they be back got Conference Games?

----------------------------------------------

As previous posts stated, 5-6 players, due to the FCPS Participation Policy Section A, it's a 30 day suspension.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Travis the great ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:24PM

From the great philosopher Travis Tritt

Well I'm a member of a country club
Country music is what I love
I drive an old Ford pick-up truck
I do my drink-in from a dixie cup
Yea I'm a bona-fide dancin' fool
I shoot a mighty mean game of pool
At any honky-tonk roadside pub
I'm a member of a country club

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cats out of the bag ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:30PM

So 6 starters on the curb for 30 days, best thing SOCO can do is forfeit the Game Ask LB what happened when they beat WF early in the season the last 2 years...they got their a@@ whooped when it counted... You thought the SOCO kids cried last year when they dropped, wait till WF's Starting beer pong team shows up in November...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ????? ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:31PM

Do tell names?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: XxxxxxxxX ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:41PM

They are someones minor child. For $100 bucks I will tell you their parents names donate at following link www.socobeerfundonlywaywecanbeatwestfield.cheat

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Credit to Northern Region ()
Date: September 09, 2015 05:59PM

At least there are consequences for immature actions in the Northern Region. Credit to the WF staff and administration for making the call. If these kids played for Ocean Lakes or any of their ilk down at the Beach, they'd be suiting up this Friday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: god bless em ()
Date: September 09, 2015 06:27PM

God bless Westfield coaches
Guys that I love
Stand beside them
And love them
Through the night
With the light
from above

From the mountains
to the prairies to
the oceans of bullshit on this site white with foam

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: just doesn't matter ()
Date: September 09, 2015 07:10PM

Does not matter all this northern region babble. The cheaters down south will cheat their way to another state win. Just call up Ocean Lakes on the internet and see what I am talking about. Before them it was Oscar Smith.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cheataz never posper ()
Date: September 09, 2015 11:19PM

That's what mama sez

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Vhsl ()
Date: September 10, 2015 09:37AM

I love how conservatives talk small government and deregulation

Don't be mad at ocean lakes or Oscar smith. They are just manipulating the rules that have been presented to them. Anytime you let consumers play by different rules there will be unethical behavior. Until the vhsl applies the same rules to each county competing for a VA state championship these issues will continue to exist. This whole situation is being poorly governed.

Don't hate the players hate the game

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: buck all ya ()
Date: September 10, 2015 10:25AM

buck the feach

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stallions rule ()
Date: September 10, 2015 02:33PM

Soco predicted to obliterate Wf JV beer pong team
There will be a running clock in second half and bulldogs begging for mercy.
Game summary:
Soco TD on o drive. Onside kick recover by Soco.
Repeat.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: picture boyz ()
Date: September 10, 2015 08:09PM

Looks like a picture you place by a glory hole to stimulate the senses....must be from SOCO

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The dirt ()
Date: September 10, 2015 08:15PM

Guy that spilled the beans on the WF players was pissed cause his daughter was hanging at the same party. Rumor is he's a principal or administrator in FCPS system.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The dirtbag ()
Date: September 10, 2015 08:36PM

You would think if we were in Baltimore or Ferguson he would have blamed it on the Cops and not searched his Daughters phone...now she has to go through the School year as that Girl...bet your A$$ he doesn't get the Westfield Principal job!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ... ()
Date: September 10, 2015 09:59PM

What a jerk!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield underdog ()
Date: September 11, 2015 09:51AM

If a crippled Westfield wins tonight SoCo is a complete pretender.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield boys are losers ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:16AM

If Westfield loses everybody in the entire Westfield community should make the players who got suspended clean their toilets every day until the suspension is over. Dixie cups were just too enticing, hmm dumbshits. You are losers for doing something so selfish.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: on second thought ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:17AM

they should be made to clean toilets anyway regardless of the outcome

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: u4CnT ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:26AM

Enough already. Stop beating the dead horse. Surely something else to talk about.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: and then ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:49AM

and then paraded around campus with dunce hats on their heads....it is not enough already

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am a dunce ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:50AM

Hey I just made starting team on Westfield one of the best teams in Virginia, I think I will celebrate by going dixie cupping

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am a dixie cupper ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:51AM

I am a selfish, stupid ass seventeen year old. World revolves around me, I can do anything I want and there will be no consequences....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: selfies ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:52AM

hey boys take some selfies in your street clothes while the game is going on

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: then ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:53AM

then to celebrate your omniscience find the local dixie cupping party tonite, it is a Friday night no less

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: one strike ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:55AM

and then remember you will always be remembered as the ones who put the whole football season at risk because you are more important than anyone, you specifically, you individually, you as the DIXIE CUPPERS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DIXIE CUPPERS UNITE ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:57AM

then every year for the rest of your life you can get together with the rest for a dixie cup convention

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: goes with McDs ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:58AM

Dixie cupping goes well with flipping burgers during the day

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Doesn't matter Dixie cup ()
Date: September 11, 2015 11:03AM

Doesn't matter WF won't get past LB soco or WS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ok ()
Date: September 11, 2015 11:10AM

sounds like the Patriot teams are wanting to talk some smack this year....ok buckle up boys

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Clueless ()
Date: September 11, 2015 11:40AM

its an illegitimate win for South County, kind of like beating your big BROTHER up the first time you find him passed out...was it really a win considering he was in no position to fight back and if they lose oh man they should all quit on the spot and the Coach should be fired! we will see if South County can find some discipline and leave the tricks and unsportsman-like behavior at home for a week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Meaningless Game ()
Date: September 11, 2015 11:58AM

People can talk smack all they want.

The reality is that the only matchups that really count are the ones in November/December.

Both of these teams will qualify for playoffs anyway, regardless of the outcome of this game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not a meaningless game ()
Date: September 11, 2015 01:04PM

It’s not a meaningless game when home field advantage during the playoffs is considered.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: YOUR Clueless ()
Date: September 11, 2015 01:05PM

Why everyone here soooooo mad Sout County? Dey own-ree want to win big foo-ball game with Westdogs. My son Han Ree no pray foo-ball, he doctah vey goo at Math. You son no goo at math round eye.

-Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 11, 2015 01:29PM

If it's 30 days, it's more than this one game. When did the calendar start on this 30 days?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: started forever ()
Date: September 11, 2015 02:31PM

I heard they have been thrown off the team for the entire season, doom for Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: different story ()
Date: September 11, 2015 02:49PM

No I heard that they have to join the chess club instead

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scorez ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:28PM

SoCo wins 26-19

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sooocooooo ()
Date: September 12, 2015 12:33AM

Congrats to soco kids for working hard and staying out of trouble. Apparently the thugs are at Westfields

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6A N champs ()
Date: September 12, 2015 06:28AM

So who is the new reigning champ in the north now that Wf has been dethroned?
Soco going all the way baby!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 12, 2015 08:04AM

6A N champs Wrote:
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> So who is the new reigning champ in the north now
> that Wf has been dethroned?
> Soco going all the way baby!

A very nice win by SoCo. They've been a long time coming but that was a solid all-around good team. That being said, I expect Lake Braddock will likely be the favorite for 6A North at this point. Westfield had absolutely NOTHING on offense and still managed to score 3 TD's - I suspect LB will be able to double that number.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Denzel Washington ()
Date: September 12, 2015 08:12AM

Remember the Titans?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: blackholeatoms ()
Date: September 12, 2015 08:55AM

blackholeatoms Wrote:
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> steve k2* Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
> > *Annandale looked nice week 1, if they give the
> > Bruins a good game that will say a lot about
> the
> > talent on Annandale’s roster.
>
> -14? Lake Braddock is going to overwhelm this
> team - final score = 52-14 LB.

And the final was LB 40 - Annandale 0. Called it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BMC ()
Date: September 12, 2015 09:56AM

Westfield missing 6 starters and SoCo barely squeaks out a victory. They are not a championship team.

Westfield kids miss 3 more games. May lose another game or so.

Lake Braddock looks like the top team. Centreville vs Braddock will be interesting if Centreville can stop turning the ball over. 9 TO's in 2 games.

Beating Broad Run and Tuscarora will be a big challenge for Centreville before getting to Braddock.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 12, 2015 10:09AM

Did anyone notice Madison knocked off Stone Bridge? That was the real upset of the week.

Anyway, I put Patriot District off to the early lead in 6A North. This is my post-Week 2 top 10:

1.Lake Braddock
2.South County
3.Centreville
4.Westfield
5.Battlefield
6.West Springfield
7.Oakton
8.Madison
9.Chantilly
10.Robinson
10.West Potomac

I still give Centreville the benefit of the doubt until someone beats them. Westfield has now been beaten but once they get the Varsity offense back it might be enough to put them back in contender position. I thought Scanlon did a nice job at QB with no weapons. He was poised and did not turn the ball over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Fan ()
Date: September 12, 2015 11:28AM

SL should have beaten Briar Woods. Briar Woods has been the best team in the state over the past 6 years. SL should be in the top 8 teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bhahbllllll ()
Date: September 12, 2015 11:32AM

South lakes is bringing it

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Patriiioooot ()
Date: September 12, 2015 04:21PM

Westfields as is isn't better than WS or battlefield. Centreville doesn't look like it either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: knowitallroad ()
Date: September 12, 2015 06:50PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Did anyone notice Madison knocked off Stone
> Bridge? That was the real upset of the week.
>
> Anyway, I put Patriot District off to the early
> lead in 6A North. This is my post-Week 2 top 10:
>
> 1.Lake Braddock
> 2.South County
> 3.Centreville
> 4.Westfield
> 5.Battlefield
> 6.West Springfield
> 7.Oakton
> 8.Madison
> 9.Chantilly
> 10.Robinson
> 10.West Potomac
>
> I still give Centreville the benefit of the doubt
> until someone beats them. Westfield has now been
> beaten but once they get the Varsity offense back
> it might be enough to put them back in contender
> position. I thought Scanlon did a nice job at QB
> with no weapons. He was poised and did not turn
> the ball over.

please enlighten us with your knowledge on why LB should be #1 after playing 2 cupcake teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 13, 2015 03:49AM

A lot of surprises this week as team’s start to show their true identities. For 6A it is going to be an exciting season as a number of teams are in the mix for the title. It is definitely the most up-for-grabs it has been in quite some time.

Annandale @ Lake Braddock (-14.0)
Lake Braddock wins 40-0
*Very impressive performance for the Bruins who have yet to give up a point their first two games. Will have the game of the week against Robinson next Friday, both teams are strong this year, should be a special one.

Briar Woods (-10.0) @ South Lakes
Briar Woods wins 24-20
*South Lakes is definitely improved and a serious threat to most teams in the Liberty this year. They’re going in the right direction under Coach Taylor.

Broad Run (-7.0) @ Langley
Broad Run wins 45-21
*This game got ugly late was close until the middle of the 3rd. Nonetheless Broad Run has a good squad this year.

Edison @ West Potomac (-20.0)
WP wins 66-13
*West Po is good and Edison is very bad.

Fairfax @ Centreville (-21.0)
Centreville wins 28-6
*Strong performance for the Wildcats, they won’t put up as many points, but if this team is going under the radar of some, it’s a mistake. They will make a deep November run.

Herndon (-14.0) @ Stuart
Herndon wins 30-13

Jefferson @ Washington-Lee (-35.0)
Washington-Lee wins 35-6

Lee @ Chantilly (-35.0)
Chantilly wins 49-7
*Chantilly will play a measuring stick game at Stone Bridge next Friday in another Fairfax-Loudoun showcase.

Marshall @ McLean (-14.0)
Marshall wins 28-17
*Surprise win for Marshall and the loss is a horrible one for McLean. Quick, when is the last time Marshall beat a 6A school? I believe it was McLean several years ago. McLean is in for a very long season. On the other side, Marshall has a big game against Edison next week that they can win. If they do, with Lee, TJ, and Stuart still on the schedule a .500 year is a realistic possibility.

Potomac Falls @ Falls Church (-3.5)
Potomac Falls wins 62-14
*Wow, was not expecting that, probably the most off a spread of mine has ever been. Falls Church and Wakefield are getting clobbered by out of conference teams. Is their conference the worst ever? Regardless, Falls Church isn’t that bad, and Potomac Falls has peaked my curiosity. If they convincingly beat Langley next week I will definitely check them out.

South County @ Westfield (-7.0)
South County wins 26-19
*If Westfield truly was missing 6 starters it bodes well for them as they were very evenly matched with South County. The best player on the field was #9 the SOPHOMORE receiver for South County though. He’s a very special player and with him on the field the Stallions are always going to have a great shot at winning.

Stone Bridge (-17.0) @ Madison
Madison wins 35-24.
*This was a big surprise too. Stone Bridge appears more average than I originally thought. Them coming off a loss doesn’t bode well for Chantilly next week but as I said above that will be a big measuring stick game for both programs.

TC Williams @ Oakton (-3.0)
Oakton wins 24-0
*TC Williams had numerous opportunities to score but came up short each time. Oakton appears to have a strong team with wins over two quality teams in Madison and TC. TC appeared to be a little over confident after their 65-0 win last week and the talk of them winning the region on here can stop for a little while. Still TC is a team heading in the right direction and they will knock off someone good this year.

Tuscarora @ Hayfield (-6.0)
Tuscarora wins 40-14
*Another surprise and a big win for Loudoun.

Woodson @ Robinson (-17.0)
Robinson wins 56-0
*Robinson was obviously dominant. Game of the week against Lake Braddock this Friday.

Wakefield @ Yorktown (-6.0)
Yorktown wins 24-7

West Springfield (-28.0) @ Mount Vernon
West Springfield wins 47-13.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 13, 2015 04:05AM

Thank you schedule makers! Four great games in the Fairfax vs. Loudoun series; and of course the county showdown between Robinson/Braddock.

Annandale (-31.0) @ Stuart

Broad Run @ Centreville (-7.0)
*This is a very intriguing game. Broad Run comes in 2-0 and has dominated their first two opponents. I am still on the Centreville bandwagon, but the Wildcats can definitely lose this game if they don’t get consistent pressure on the QB.

Chantilly @ Stone Bridge (-6.0)
*I can see this game going either way; I just have trouble envisioning SB dropping two in a row and with this one at home I don’t think it will happen.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ Woodson

Falls Church @ Herndon (-3.0)

Hayfield @ South County (-25.0)

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Robinson
*Game of the Week: This one will always be close. Lake Braddock was probably the better team last year, but at home, still lost to Robinson. With the Bruins outscoring their opponents 109-0 I am going to pick them in a close game but nothing would surprise me in this rivalry.

Langley @ Potomac Falls (-10.0)

Madison (-21.0) @ McLean

Marshall (-1.0) @ Edison

Mount Vernon (-28.0) @ Jefferson

Oakton @ Tuscarora (-10.0)
*Picking the home team here, but another fantastic installment in the Fairfax/Loudoun series and the third great game this week in the series. Both teams come in undefeated and an Oakton win here would officially bump the Cougars into a contender in my eyes.

Washington-Lee (-6.0) @ Wakefield
*This one could go either way, will be a good one in Arlington on Friday.

West Potomac (-7.0) @ Briar Woods
*A measuring stick game for the Wolverines.

West Springfield (-45.0) @ Lee

Yorktown @ South Lakes (-7.0)
*An intriguing early season conference game.

Westfield (-14.0) @ TC Williams
*I think TC Williams has a bounce back game. Not good enough to beat Westfield, but they’re better than their last showing.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Orions son ()
Date: September 13, 2015 07:41AM

What do you do for a living? Just curious. I figured you write for a newspaper about high school sports, but then I was thinking you could be unemployed and just sit in your room all day studying high school football information.
Either way, you're actually not a bad handicapper.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truly 5 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 09:55AM

South County @ Westfield (-7.0)
South County wins 26-19
*If Westfield truly was missing 6 starters it bodes well for them as they were very evenly matched with South County. The best player on the field was #9 the SOPHOMORE receiver for South County though. He’s a very special player and with him on the field the Stallions are always going to have a great shot at winning

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Westfield was truly missing 5 starters, both WR's, one OL, one RB, and one DB. As it showed they really missed the offensive players. The backup QB was also suspended, he's the more natural QB than #10. Really, #10 is more of a threat at the WR position than at QB so maybe it would be fair to say the Bulldogs were missing 6.

Either way it was a good game, SOCO is very talented as is Westfield when fully represented. The young WR for SOCO is very good, as well as their QB and RB's.

Westfield's strength is their D, especially their LB's, looked like the fast pace of SOCO's offense didn't really overwhelm them, they just tired from being on the field too long. Not sure what the number was but Westfields defenders had to play close to twice as many plays as their counterparts on offense. Once their offense gets back with the return of the missing starters they'll be fine.

SOCO doesn't get enough credit for their defense, they are pretty solid as well. Both these teams are the real deal, should do well and it will be fun to watch as the season progresses.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 13, 2015 01:31PM

knowitallroad Wrote:
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> please enlighten us with your knowledge on why LB
> should be #1 after playing 2 cupcake teams.

Excellent discussion point. I looked at this way... LB put 62 points on SoCo last fall. They return most of their starters from last year and have outscored their first two "cupcake" opponents 109-0. Centreville barely got past "cupcake" Annandale. And SoCo had a difficult time with Westfield's JV offense. It's 9 weeks away but mark down August 6 on your calendar. LB Vs SoCo. Where would you put LB and why?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 13, 2015 01:51PM

Truly 5 Wrote:
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> Westfield's strength is their D, especially their
> LB's, looked like the fast pace of SOCO's offense
> didn't really overwhelm them, they just tired from
> being on the field too long. Not sure what the
> number was but Westfields defenders had to play
> close to twice as many plays as their counterparts
> on offense.

SoCo had 62 plays, Westfield 43. Not counting special teams plays. They converted a number of 4th downs and gained an extra possession on an onside kick recovery. Yeah, that #9 is an incredible talent. Looks like he could be playing D1 ball right now. He made every catch. Not used to seeing that in high school.

So what's opinion of SoCo trying the onside kick so frequently? That kept giving Westfield's struggling offense decent field position. SoCo did recover 1 but I wonder if it was worth it.

Other observation is that Westfield's special teams play so far very shaky. Missing short field goals, missing extra points, mishandling virtually every punt. Didn't look good out there at all. The punting was solid.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 13, 2015 03:13PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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>
> TC Williams @ Oakton (-3.0)
> Oakton wins 24-0
> *TC Williams had numerous opportunities to score
> but came up short each time.

TCW only had 36 yards of offense and 2 first downs for the entire game. Crazy that people were hyping them based on a game against TJ.


> Tuscarora @ Hayfield (-6.0)
> Tuscarora wins 40-14
> *Another surprise and a big win for Loudoun.

Once Tuscarora got their legs under them this became one-sided very quickly. Hayfield has a weak enough conference that they'll make the playoffs but they'll probably get blown out in the first round.

> Woodson @ Robinson (-17.0)
> Robinson wins 56-0
> *Robinson was obviously dominant. Game of the
> week against Lake Braddock this Friday.

I don't understand why Woodson has such a poor football program. It's a big school, pretty affluent, and a good all-around athletic program.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't crown Braddock yet ()
Date: September 13, 2015 04:24PM

Centreville only beat Annandale by 10 but went up on them easy 3 score to nothing at half. They then started shooting then selves in the foot. 6 turnovers in that game. Easily beat them by 35-40 points most nights.

Annandale was 4-22 passing. Game was never in doubt!.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truly 5 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 04:32PM

SoCo had 62 plays, Westfield 43. Not counting special teams plays. They converted a number of 4th downs and gained an extra possession on an onside kick recovery. Yeah, that #9 is an incredible talent. Looks like he could be playing D1 ball right now. He made every catch. Not used to seeing that in high school.

So what's opinion of SoCo trying the onside kick so frequently? That kept giving Westfield's struggling offense decent field position. SoCo did recover 1 but I wonder if it was worth it.

Other observation is that Westfield's special teams play so far very shaky. Missing short field goals, missing extra points, mishandling virtually every punt. Didn't look good out there at all. The punting was solid

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Westfield struggled on punt return because two of the suspended offensive players are their main return men. Kick offs and punts solid for them, field goals not so much. Their kicker has a phenomenal leg but not to sure a it his accuracy.

SOCO did convert some 4th downs, also on TD was a blown coverage. That might have been due to missing DB that was suspended. The kid who blew the coverage was the backup.

Westfield would be smart to blitz a backer every once in awhile. They sat back in coverage and gave SOCO's QB too much time. Similar to last season when the Bulldogs allowed Lake Braddock QB to have a field day. Then when they met in the post season Westfield blitzed on almost every pass play. The result was 6 or 7 sacks and the inability for Braddock's QB to get comfortable.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truly 5 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 04:37PM

SOCO probably attempted so many onside kicks because they were not afraid to give Westfield's depleted offense good field position. It was very odd Westfield kept attempting to run up the middle when it was obvious it was t working. The play calling for Westfield's offense was definitely questionable to say the least.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 13, 2015 05:17PM

Truly 5 Wrote:
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> It was very
> odd Westfield kept attempting to run up the middle
> when it was obvious it was t working. The play
> calling for Westfield's offense was definitely
> questionable to say the least.

They didn't have anyone that could catch the ball. The sophomore TE couldn't hang onto 3 first down passes and a wide-open RB dropped 1st down as well. Westfield defense was very disciplined and stayed in their lanes and didn't over-pursue. They had a couple coverage sacks in the first half. Their tackling was outstanding.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sooooo ()
Date: September 13, 2015 08:03PM

So your saying Westfields isn't that good. Dropped passes and special team errors are characteristics of a bad team

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truly 5 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 08:34PM

So your saying Westfields isn't that good. Dropped passes and special team errors are characteristics of a bad team

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Dropped pass by backup running back, dropped punts by backup returners. Only playing until suspended players return. SOCO very talented, Westfield lost by 7 with half their offense missing. Once again as the previuos posts suggest they will be fine. That's of course assuming no other starters decide to act stupid and selfish.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truly 5 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 08:43PM

Truly 5 Wrote:
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> It was very
> odd Westfield kept attempting to run up the middle
> when it was obvious it was t working. The play
> calling for Westfield's offense was definitely
> questionable to say the least.

They didn't have anyone that could catch the ball. The sophomore TE couldn't hang onto 3 first down passes and a wide-open RB dropped 1st down as well. Westfield defense was very disciplined and stayed in their lanes and didn't over-pursue. They had a couple coverage sacks in the first half. Their tackling was outstanding.

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Well 82 I think caught a few, 88 I believe as well, think he had one TD. Threw one pass to their LB, 41, playing TE, all that resulted in was a 46 yard TD. Think they might have tried getting him back out on offense. Just curious as to why they kept trying to run when it was not working. Even more curious as to why the RB who had 100 yards and 2 TD's last week never carried the ball.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hudl try it ()
Date: September 13, 2015 09:32PM

Ever hear of HUDL...the great thing is...film doesn't lie...several "dropped" passes were the result of #130 parking his big a** in the middle of the field and not being very Mobil...#10 almost took his head off twice trying to get it to the TE...#130 would be the official and if you have room for three digits on your back your taking up space...soco's best defensive back. As for #9 as soon as any team that doesn't run Zone realizes how to jam him at the line he's done...Film doesn't lie..and teams will see it, if his numbers not called he's not working hard at all..force him to fight off the line he's a different ball player..Hudl great Tool answers all the nay Sayers and Sunday morning Critics..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hE3hy ()
Date: September 13, 2015 10:59PM

Hudl try it Wrote:
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> Ever hear of HUDL...the great thing is...film
> doesn't lie...several "dropped" passes were the
> result of #130 parking his big a** in the middle
> of the field and not being very Mobil...#10 almost
> took his head off twice trying to get it to the
> TE...#130 would be the official and if you have
> room for three digits on your back your taking up
> space...soco's best defensive back.

So how did he play in westfield's defensive backfield? Or did he only play one way? Either way, there is no need to disrespect our hardworking VHSL referees. It's a thankless task and if you can do better get off your fat a** and learn the job yourself.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Whining ()
Date: September 14, 2015 12:19PM

Stop whining. Winners win and losers whine. Both teams knew of this pivotal match up was in week 2. However only the Westfields kids decided to put their season in jeopardy and their loss was self-inflicted. Enjoy being on the road the second round of the playoffs. Fortunate they'll have a second chance.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO NATION ()
Date: September 14, 2015 02:19PM

We will win states this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Beautiful Dreamer ()
Date: September 14, 2015 03:09PM

SOCO Nation, there is NO WAY SOCO is going to state, let alone winning state this year. I am glad to see that you are fully behind your team, but please don't set your expectations too high. Getting to the playoffs should be your primary expectation and certainly something that can be accomplished with this squad. Beyond that, it's not going to happen. That would be like the Redskins ending with a breakeven record this year. It is just not going to happen!

As to your recent victory against the Westfield JV offense, congratulations on winning by such a large margin. Let's see you do it again come November when all the players are back on the field in uniform. hahaha

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bruin Nation ()
Date: September 14, 2015 05:36PM

It will be Lake Braddock this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Redskins look pretty good ()
Date: September 14, 2015 05:56PM

I think the Redskins look pretty good against most of the local HS teams - look for them to go .500

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: redskins suck ()
Date: September 14, 2015 07:03PM

Give me the best players from Centreville, Westfield, SOCO, and Lake Braddock and I will play the Redskins and win because they suck.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like em ()
Date: September 15, 2015 07:36AM

The Redskins

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: September 15, 2015 09:35AM

Muran back round eyes,
No one be-reeve Sout County gooo team but Muran know. Muran know dey gooo for dey have most round kicker in whole place. He so big dat he kick ball and ball say "Oh no you kick ball soooo hard I fly into air soooo high!" Den Sout County get ball back and udder team say "we soooo bad at foo-ball"

-Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Love this dude! ()
Date: September 15, 2015 09:49AM

Great point Muran!!

Thanks to WF's LB #41 for blowing the game for WF!!! Drink up boys, it's going to be a long season!!

LB beat two awful teams, congrats!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spelling ()
Date: September 15, 2015 11:54AM

This is how you spell sucks!! Idiot!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Spelling again! ()
Date: September 15, 2015 11:56AM

SOCO SUX Wrote:
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> SOCO and Lake Braddock - best regular season teams
> ever - but will choke at the end because Patriot
> league is a bunch of pussies

This is how you spell sucks!! Idiot!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Blind as #9 ()
Date: September 15, 2015 04:20PM

You must be talking about this play where #41 made an incredible play, allowing the SOCO punter to kick the ball off his body...and blind Old #9 changed the out come of the Game...
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: blind buddy ()
Date: September 15, 2015 05:28PM

You are a dipshit; I would of liked for the punt to be blocked and for Soco's punter to break a leg but you can see on hudl in slow motion where the ball clearly gets kicked and the WF defender just got there a little too late.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: grassyknolleyewitness ()
Date: September 15, 2015 07:00PM

The kick was partially blocked - the ball was most definitely deflected to the left. But it's all water under the bridge now...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Love me ()
Date: September 16, 2015 06:51AM

All we need is love

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What game were you watching ()
Date: September 16, 2015 09:08AM

Great point Muran!!

Thanks to WF's LB #41 for blowing the game for WF!!! Drink up boys, it's going to be a long season!!

LB beat two awful teams, congrats!!

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You mean #41 who was all over the field on defense, name called on what, like 14 or 15 tackles?

You mean #41 who had 1 catch for a 46 yard TD?

You mean #41 who actually did tip the ball? Previous post was correct, ball was deflected.

The SOCO punter averaged 40 yards in the air on every punt with the exception of the last one. It traveled 25 or so, also changed direction when it left his foot.

The ref who blew it was the same one that failed to see one of SOCO's return men step into the end zone with his left foot on a 30 plus yard kick return in the second half.

The officiating was typical high school officiating.

Plus, IF Westfield had got the ball back there was over a minute to play, think they might of had 1 timeout. You really think their offense, which had done pretty much nothing all night, was going to score a TD?

What game were you watching?!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 16, 2015 11:54AM

What game were you watching Wrote:
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> The ref who blew it was the same one that failed
> to see one of SOCO's return men step into the end
> zone with his left foot on a 30 plus yard kick
> return in the second half.

In high school football it is the position of the football in relation to the goal line. Even though his foot was in the end zone the ball did not cross the plane of the goal line. It works the other way also, if the returner is out of the end zone but the ball crosses the plane it is whistled dead.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: pick em ()
Date: September 16, 2015 01:46PM

Annandale 42 @ Stuart 7

Broad Run 20 @ Centreville 28

Chantilly 20 @ Stone Bridge 27

Fairfax 35 @ Woodson 10

Falls Church 20 @ Herndon 17

Hayfield 21 @ South County 49

Lake Braddock 34 @ Robinson 21

Langley 20 @ Potomac Falls 30

Madison 35 @ McLean 14

Marshall 21 @ Edison 24

Mount Vernon 28 @ Jefferson 10

Oakton 14 @ Tuscarora 30


Washington-Lee 20 @ Wakefield 14


West Potomac 27 @ Briar Woods 24


West Springfield 45 @ Lee 7

Yorktown 20 @ South Lakes 27


Westfield 28 @ TC Williams 7

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield is best ()
Date: September 17, 2015 08:50AM

at dixie cupping

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thank you! ()
Date: September 17, 2015 10:43AM

Blind as #9 Wrote:
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> You must be talking about this play where #41 made
> an incredible play, allowing the SOCO punter to
> kick the ball off his body...and blind Old #9
> changed the out come of the Game...

Thank you for proving my point!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Punt ()
Date: September 17, 2015 10:45AM

What game were you watching Wrote:
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> Great point Muran!!
>
> Thanks to WF's LB #41 for blowing the game for
> WF!!! Drink up boys, it's going to be a long
> season!!
>
> LB beat two awful teams, congrats!!
>
> __________________________________________________
> ______________________
>
> You mean #41 who was all over the field on
> defense, name called on what, like 14 or 15
> tackles?
>
> You mean #41 who had 1 catch for a 46 yard TD?
>
> You mean #41 who actually did tip the ball?
> Previous post was correct, ball was deflected.
>
> The SOCO punter averaged 40 yards in the air on
> every punt with the exception of the last one. It
> traveled 25 or so, also changed direction when it
> left his foot.
>
> The ref who blew it was the same one that failed
> to see one of SOCO's return men step into the end
> zone with his left foot on a 30 plus yard kick
> return in the second half.
>
> The officiating was typical high school
> officiating.
>
> Plus, IF Westfield had got the ball back there was
> over a minute to play, think they might of had 1
> timeout. You really think their offense, which had
> done pretty much nothing all night, was going to
> score a TD?
>
> What game were you watching?!

Can't kick it 40 yards when someone crushes your leg on the follow through! Thanks again #41, you suck!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sucko ()
Date: September 17, 2015 12:31PM

Don't worry soco will find a way to blow it down the stretch

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Punt is a moron ()
Date: September 17, 2015 11:11PM

What game were you watching Wrote:
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> Great point Muran!!
>
> Thanks to WF's LB #41 for blowing the game for
> WF!!! Drink up boys, it's going to be a long
> season!!
>
> LB beat two awful teams, congrats!!
>
> __________________________________________________
> ______________________
>
> You mean #41 who was all over the field on
> defense, name called on what, like 14 or 15
> tackles?
>
> You mean #41 who had 1 catch for a 46 yard TD?
>
> You mean #41 who actually did tip the ball?
> Previous post was correct, ball was deflected.
>
> The SOCO punter averaged 40 yards in the air on
> every punt with the exception of the last one. It
> traveled 25 or so, also changed direction when it
> left his foot.
>
> The ref who blew it was the same one that failed
> to see one of SOCO's return men step into the end
> zone with his left foot on a 30 plus yard kick
> return in the second half.
>
> The officiating was typical high school
> officiating.
>
> Plus, IF Westfield had got the ball back there was
> over a minute to play, think they might of had 1
> timeout. You really think their offense, which had
> done pretty much nothing all night, was going to
> scorea TD?
>
> What game were you watching?!

Can't kick it 40 yards when someone crushes your leg on the follow through! Thanks again #41, you suck!!

What's the matter Punt? You sad cause you're kids riding the pine behind #41?

Don't worry, he'll get s chance to play next year since #41 will be playing in college!

And once again, as the previous post suggests even if Westfield had gotten the ball back there was a little over a minute to play. They had one timeout, maybe none. Their offense was horrid, unless they scored on defense or special teams Westfield wasn't beating SOCO!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 18, 2015 08:18AM

Annandale (-31.0) @ Stuart
May not be that close

Broad Run @ Centreville (-7.0)
Centreville covers. Barely.

Chantilly @ Stone Bridge (-6.0)
*I can see this game going either way; I just have trouble envisioning SB dropping two in a row and with this one at home I don’t think it will happen.

I agree with Steve.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ Woodson
Woodson covers. Loses, by 7.

Falls Church @ Herndon (-3.0)
The Jags pull off the "Upset" and get declared the tallest midget in the circus.

Hayfield @ South County (-25.0)
Don't think the Hawks have the staying power. Or stopping power. SC by 4 tds

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Robinson
Ill take the purple and gold guys.

Langley @ Potomac Falls (-10.0)
Langley Loses but covers.

Madison (-21.0) @ McLean
Madison covers.

Marshall (-1.0) @ Edison
Parents won't even go to this one. We'll have to get results from the referees notes. Marshall, I guess.

Mount Vernon (-28.0) @ Jefferson
MV continues their delusions of grandeur tour before it all comes to a crashing halt in conference play.

Oakton @ Tuscarora (-10.0)
Huskies win and cover

Washington-Lee (-6.0) @ Wakefield
w&L because ties don't count and someone has to be declared the winner.

West Potomac (-7.0) @ Briar Woods
WP wins and covers.

West Springfield (-45.0) @ Lee
This game may be delayed due to smoke coming from the scoreboard. Lee is a bad, bad team. Steve put this at 45 because 70 just seemed mean.

Yorktown @ South Lakes (-7.0)
South Lakes in a close one.

Westfield (-14.0) @ TC Williams
Westfield has a mad one about last week and TCs going to feel the brunt of it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bruin Fan 08 ()
Date: September 18, 2015 08:46AM

Braddock is rolling right now. Looking to make a statement game tonight, but Robinson has me worried. They beat us last year when we were still at full strength. How good are they?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver ()
Date: September 18, 2015 09:57AM

Bruin Fan 08 Wrote:
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> Braddock is rolling right now. Looking to make a
> statement game tonight, but Robinson has me
> worried. They beat us last year when we were
> still at full strength. How good are they?

They are pretty darn good. In my opinion they don't have the top end talent as LB but they will be a tough out. LB need to bring the A game. I think in the end though LB will be too much for ROB. Oakton, Robinson, Chantilly seem to have kicked it up a notch this season - Centreville/Westfield not as far ahead as the last 2 seasons I think. Centreville's transfers could make the difference for them by end of the season - they got some new kids that can make an impact.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:26AM

They are pretty darn good. In my opinion they don't have the top end talent as LB but they will be a tough out. LB need to bring the A game. I think in the end though LB will be too much for ROB. Oakton, Robinson, Chantilly seem to have kicked it up a notch this season - Centreville/Westfield not as far ahead as the last 2 seasons I think. Centreville's transfers could make the difference for them by end of the season - they got some new kids that can make an impact.

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Agreed with above comments, however, once the 6 starters for Westfield return that's a pretty darn good team. They've got one of the best defenses in the area. When the 5 offensive starters come back they'll have a unit that will be able to sustain drives and keep the D fresh unlike last Friday night against SOCO. Westfield's D was on the field for 71 plays, their O only had 43, big impact when playing an up tempo offense.

If there is any good news for Westfield in regard to their suspended players at least their backups are getting valuable playing experience. Should help them down the road. Really all that matters anymore for any of these teams is to finish in the top 16 so you qualify for post season.

I think a little too much is made about home field advantage as it pertains to playoffs. It's not like the home team has that many more fans in the stands. It's different at the college or pro level cause there's 50K plus fans in the stadiums, not so in high school. Pretty much the teams playing the best ball in the latter half of the season are going to do well regardless of where they play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Homefield ()
Date: September 18, 2015 11:11AM

I don't know that home field advantage should be taken that lightly. Yes, at the end of the day playing good football late usually bodes well in the playoffs but home field advantage definitely plays a role. I go back to 2011 when SC was still classified as D5 and played Hanover for the Semis. As a player and coach having to travel long distance, which generally is not the norm, and coming into an environment that can be extremely intimidating is a difficult task. That stadium was downright unhinged and as that game went on the crowd definitely had an impact on Hanover, coaches and kids alike. Home field advantage is something worth playing for especially late into the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 12:11PM

I don't know that home field advantage should be taken that lightly. Yes, at the end of the day playing good football late usually bodes well in the playoffs but home field advantage definitely plays a role. I go back to 2011 when SC was still classified as D5 and played Hanover for the Semis. As a player and coach having to travel long distance, which generally is not the norm, and coming into an environment that can be extremely intimidating is a difficult task. That stadium was downright unhinged and as that game went on the crowd definitely had an impact on Hanover, coaches and kids alike. Home field advantage is something worth playing for especially late into the playoffs

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I agree with you 100% in your scenario, that definitely would be an advantage for the home team. My comment was more about home field in the 6A North playoffs. The travel time really is not a factor given the area from which the teams participating are locted. It really boils down to who the better team is and who's playing better ball. Now the 6A South is a different story with how spread that entire bracket is with teams from Prince William county, through Richmond, down to the beach area.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 18, 2015 01:00PM

I have also thought that home field advantage in high school football is really minimal in the playoffs. Within a reasonable travel situation - say less than an hour.

Recent 6A North Playoff road wins:

2014
Chantilly traveled to Hayfield last year and won 49-35
2013
Robinson traveled to Patriot and won 35-13.
Stonewall Jackson on the road against Langley won 51-48
Westfield knocked off Lake Braddock on the road 19-16

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 01:01PM

conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> Annandale (-31.0) @ Stuart
> May not be that close

I agree. Despite Annandale losing badly to LB last week, they are a good team, and better than their record indicates. Annandale wins and covers
>
> Broad Run @ Centreville (-7.0)
> Centreville covers. Barely.

I agree with you. I don't know what to make of Centreville this year. Annandale came close to beating them, and they didn't win in convincing fashion against Fairfax (which, by the way, is another team that I don't know what to make of this year)
>
> Chantilly @ Stone Bridge (-6.0)
> *I can see this game going either way; I just have
> trouble envisioning SB dropping two in a row and
> with this one at home I don’t think it will
> happen.
>
> I agree with Steve.

Stone Bridge may not be as good as they usually are. That loss to Madison may not have been the fluke that it otherwise appeared to be. I'll expect a close game, which means that I'd take Chantilly if they are getting points.
>
> Fairfax (-10.0) @ Woodson
> Woodson covers. Loses, by 7.

You do know that Woodson has lost by scores of 31-14 at home to Chantilly and 56-0 @ Robinson, don't you? Fairfax isn't in the same league at Robo or Chantilly, but they did beat Herndon convincingly, and didn't show too badly against Centreville. Also, Steve has, over the last two years of having an uncanny ability to accurately predict spreads in Fairfax games (he nailed it last week). I look for Fairfax to win and cover.
>
> Falls Church @ Herndon (-3.0)
> The Jags pull off the "Upset" and get declared the
> tallest midget in the circus.

I think Herndon wins
>
> Hayfield @ South County (-25.0)
> Don't think the Hawks have the staying power. Or
> stopping power. SC by 4 tds

SC wins. I don't know if it will be by four TD's. Hayfield was the conference 6 favorite preseason, but they certainly haven't looked the part.
>
> Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Robinson
> Ill take the purple and gold guys.

I agree.
>
> Langley @ Potomac Falls (-10.0)
> Langley Loses but covers.

I'll go out on a limb and say Langley wins. They are 0-2, and I have trouble believing that Langley is as bad as an 0-2 record indicates.
>
> Madison (-21.0) @ McLean
> Madison covers.

Agree. Mclean looks bad this year.
>
> Marshall (-1.0) @ Edison
> Parents won't even go to this one. We'll have to
> get results from the referees notes. Marshall, I
> guess.

I agree. Marshall gets a boost by winning v. McLean last week. For them, this is something to build on.
>
> Mount Vernon (-28.0) @ Jefferson
> MV continues their delusions of grandeur tour
> before it all comes to a crashing halt in
> conference play.

I agree with you, but you don't say whether MV wins and covers. I think they do. Losses will start next week.
>
> Oakton @ Tuscarora (-10.0)
> Huskies win and cover

Agree. I'm not sold on Oakton.
>
> Washington-Lee (-6.0) @ Wakefield
> w&L because ties don't count and someone has to be
> declared the winner.

WL wins, but doesn't cover. Close game.
>
> West Potomac (-7.0) @ Briar Woods
> WP wins and covers.

I don't think West PO covers, but I do think they win
>
> West Springfield (-45.0) @ Lee
> This game may be delayed due to smoke coming from
> the scoreboard. Lee is a bad, bad team. Steve put
> this at 45 because 70 just seemed mean.

No argument from me on this one.
>
> Yorktown @ South Lakes (-7.0)
> South Lakes in a close one.

This is the most difficult game to call. Given how bad they were last year, I find it hard to believe that SL is good this season. However, I've always thought that the new Conference 6 teams would struggle against their new competition. I'm making no prediction here.
>
> Westfield (-14.0) @ TC Williams
> Westfield has a mad one about last week and TCs
> going to feel the brunt of it.

Westfield wins and covers. This spread is too low.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jimmy The ()
Date: September 18, 2015 03:54PM

Easy to pick winners when it is a mismatch.

Let me lay some truth on y'all...

Centreville, Langley, Herndon, Briar Woods all win in games where point spread is close, including Langley winning outright despite being an "underdog."

Madison, West Springfield, and Westfield all cover their games in routs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 18, 2015 08:07PM

conf 7 guy Wrote:

> Mount Vernon (-28.0) @ Jefferson
> MV continues their delusions of grandeur tour
> before it all comes to a crashing halt in
> conference play.

MV already played WS last week and got killed. I doubt there are any delusions of grandeur down there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:10PM

Cville should tonight what they are....small, slow, weak, no depth. Haddock doesn't have the line to run his wings n things nor the backs. Penalties and turnovers. They will be lucky to be 5-5. Don't see them beating Tuscarora, lake Braddock, Westfield. They will need to beat Robinson, Oakton, Chantilly, Herndon to go 6-4. Whoever is the defense coordinator needs to be fired. Broad run ran the same play all night and Cville made no adjustments. Broad run simy beat the Cvilles ass tonight. Poor coaching Cville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What happened to centreville? ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:27PM

56 points? How did that happen? Is broad run that good? Wow

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:31PM

Forgot to say hats off to broad run. They deserved the win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: eff ya ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:37PM

Yes hats off to Broad Run, good football team. Centreville, hold your heads high and regroup. Plenty of haters will jump all over you after the incredible 5 year run by the Wildcats. Stay strong, there is still football left to play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nPwWx ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:40PM

Rough night for the ever-so-dominant Concorde...

Chantilly L
Oakton L
Robinson L
Centreville L
Herndon W -lol

Meanwhile...

Lake Braddock W
Soco W (70-29)
W. Springfield W
Woodson W
WestPo W
Annandale W
Mount Vernon W

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Horrible Defense Coaching ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:43PM

Cville Defense awful. Coaching on defense looked clueless read option coach adjust for god sakes!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:46PM

Amen!! No changes made and the safety couldn't tackle.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde sux ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:46PM

See I have been telling you all those years that Concorde won state championships that it was a mirage, see I told you

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:47PM

The broad run coaches where amazed they didn't adjust.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:48PM

Annandale (-31.0) @ Stuart
*Annandale won 37-17.

Broad Run @ Centreville (-7.0)
*Broad Run won 56-21. I knew Centreville could very well lose this one but I am having trouble wrapping my head around the domination by Broad Run. I don't think Haddock has ever been blown out at Centreville and I still thought Centreville had a very solid group minus the explosive play makers of the past few special years. Maybe I have been giving this group too much credit. I'm just going to leave this with a WOW for now.

Chantilly @ Stone Bridge (-6.0)
*Stone Bridge won 42-28. I went to this one and I think both teams are really solid. I'm not saying Chantilly is necessarily above 6-4, but they have their most complete offense I've seen in the past 5 years. They will be a dangerous playoff matchup, similar to last year where they suprised Hayfield and gave Westfield a close match. Stone Bridge has their typical big lines and the QB is a great dual threat. I haven't seen Madison, but I'm suprised Stone Bridge went down. They are definitely more run-oriented than some of their really talented past rosters, but they're still legit. I think the Stone Bridge-Westfield game will be a fun one next Friday.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ Woodson
*Woodson won 36-25. I almost never see Fairfax play, but its been a while since I picked an incorrect winner in this series. Good win for the Cavs and glad to see the early strength of schedule could benefit them in a game like tonight.

Falls Church @ Herndon (-3.0)
*Herndon won 28-14. Good showing for the Hornets. The Jaguars have definitely taken a step back this year, missing their senior class from last.

Hayfield @ South County (-25.0)
*South County won 70-29. Stallions are definitely a team to beat. In Fairfax I think your top tier is Westfield, SC, and Lake Braddock; then several Concorde schools aren't far behind. Like I said before the season it's going to be a fun playoff as it really is up for grabs this season.

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Robinson
*Lake Braddock won 21-14. Love nailing a spread. Lake Braddock was definitely the better team though jumping out to a 21-14 lead.

Langley @ Potomac Falls (-10.0)
*Potomac Falls wins 26-6. This is definitely the strongest team Pot Falls has had probably in their school's history.

Madison (-21.0) @ McLean
*Madison won 30-0.

Marshall (-1.0) @ Edison
*Marshall won 30-20. When was the last time Marshall had a winning record? Huge win for them to get to 2-1 and they haven't played the 3 weakest teams on their schedule yet. It'll be a great year for them. But they will get spanked next week against Pot Falls.

Mount Vernon (-28.0) @ Jefferson
*Mount Vernon won 40-18. TJ has come short of the spread 2 straight weeks after their disastrous opener.

Oakton @ Tuscarora (-10.0)
*Tuscarora won 28-14. Great night for Loudoun football, maybe I have to start watching that more and posting in the Loudoun section. Come on Fairfax County!

Washington-Lee (-6.0) @ Wakefield
*Wakefield won 13-0, need some work on my Arlington knowledge.

West Potomac (-7.0) @ Briar Woods
*West Potomac won 29-27 after a frantic Briar Woods comeback.

West Springfield (-45.0) @ Lee
*West Springfield won 34-7.

Yorktown @ South Lakes (-7.0)
*South Lakes wins 25-14 with two late scores. As I said, Coach Taylor is doing a great job with this group and this is a much improved Seahawks team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudon better than Fairfax ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:48PM

loudon rules

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:50PM

Definitely a down year for the Concorde. Opens doors for other teams to make it to the state final.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:51PM

Chantilly held their own vs. Stone Bridge. The game was in the balance until SB QB #4 took over the game RUNNING the ball in the second half. Reminded me of Kyle Downer from a few years ago (although he throws a much better ball). Stone Bridge caught a few lucky breaks over the course of the game. Chantilly is clearly an improved team compared to their last two seasons. They are not going to be an easy team for anyone to beat. #72 on their defensive line was impressive.

I am shocked to see that Centreville score. This was a bad night for Concorde District football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde never was good ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:52PM

concorde has always been overrated

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hell and a hand basket ()
Date: September 18, 2015 10:54PM

one week leads to many weeks leads to desperation....all these years are they real who are we are we real can we believe anything anymore who am I

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wessssstttttside ()
Date: September 18, 2015 11:16PM

I see a 3 way split again for the patriot dust. Sc, LB and WS. SC over WS, WS over LB and LB over SC like last year. After the first round you'll have to travel to rolling road and lorton to watch D6 playoff football.

Concorde has always been better because they have all jimmy and joe's on their roster while the rest of region has habib's and hernandez's on their roster. White and black kids will always be better at football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 19, 2015 08:23AM

nPwWx Wrote:
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> Rough night for the ever-so-dominant Concorde...
>
> Chantilly L
> Oakton L
> Robinson L
> Centreville L
> Herndon W -lol
>
> Meanwhile...
>
> Lake Braddock W
> Soco W (70-29)
> W. Springfield W
> Woodson W
> WestPo W
> Annandale W
> Mount Vernon W

(Snort)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde is still king ()
Date: September 19, 2015 09:28AM

As has been chronicled before until teams other than those in Concorde can win any state championships who cares....lot of glow but no real fire from Lake Braddock, SOCO, West Springfield, and in Loudon County except for Stone Bridge who won one state championship and Battlefied. The rest just a bunch of glow....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agree true that ()
Date: September 19, 2015 09:55AM

Agree, how many years have we heard smack from SOCO, Braddock, others. Stand up and actually do something first. Starting to see that now with the Loudon teams. Of course the Concorde teams are down this year but in the broader scheme Loudon also needs to do something first before popping off.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: mishandledthetrollgenerator ()
Date: September 19, 2015 01:51PM

concorde never was good Wrote:
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> concorde has always been overrated

Yep, one bad weekend wipes out 21 years of history.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jefferson QB ()
Date: September 19, 2015 03:01PM

Saw the Mt Vernon -Jefferson game. Mt Vernon has some small really quick backs who can make some big plays, but I was really impressed with Jefferson's QB. He really threw the ball well, and he is a good runner, too. I know he wasn't facing a good defense, and maybe he just had a abnormal good night, but he is an impressive athlete and he's not very big.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: (Snort) ()
Date: September 19, 2015 03:59PM

conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> > Rough night for the ever-so-dominant
> Concorde...
> >
> > Chantilly L
> > Oakton L
> > Robinson L
> > Centreville L
> > Herndon W -lol
> > Westfield W

> > Meanwhile...
> >
> > Lake Braddock W
> > Soco W (70-29)
> > W. Springfield W
> > Woodson W
> > WestPo W
> > Annandale W
> > Mount Vernon W
> > TC Williams L

Westfield (barely) prevents a running of the table...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What game did you watch? ()
Date: September 19, 2015 04:36PM

conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> > Rough night for the ever-so-dominant
> Concorde...
> >
> > Chantilly L
> > Oakton L
> > Robinson L
> > Centreville L
> > Herndon W -lol
> > Westfield W

> > Meanwhile...
> >
> > Lake Braddock W
> > Soco W (70-29)
> > W. Springfield W
> > Woodson W
> > WestPo W
> > Annandale W
> > Mount Vernon W
> > TC Williams L

Westfield (barely) prevents a running of the table...
---------------------------

Barely? They might have only won by 15 but TC Williams had zero chance. They did nothing on offense. It was 21-0 at half and typical Westfield fashion their coaches stopped coaching on offense. Only score from TC was latr 4th quarter on a 100 INT. for some inexplicable reason Westfield threw the ball first and goal at the 5. Westfield's coaches, especially offensive coordinator and O line coaches need to stop getting outcoached!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 19, 2015 05:06PM

The Patriot District is certainly good this year but is so funny what an inferiority complex they have with the Concorde. The fact is the history isn't close. Middle of the pack Concorde teams, Oakton and Robinson, have lost to the Patriot's best by 7, and Westfield missing 6 starters almost beat South County. The Concorde is a bit down this year, but all the teams except Centreville are still capable of beating anyone on a given night.

3 of the Patriot District's wins last night were against Lee, Stuart, and TJ; can we even count those? The Patriot District is 3 deep, the Concorde is 5 deep. I have little doubt as it does every November that the depth of conference will equate to deeper playoff runs for the Concorde. We might very well have a Patriot region champion this year but again stop comparing yourself to the Concorde and just play football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 19, 2015 05:07PM

All the teams except Herndon I met, not Centreville. Centreville's success remains to be seen, but they'll have another measuring stick game against Tuscarora coming up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 19, 2015 05:21PM

A lot of great games again this week. I may alter some later in the week but had some time to get it done today.

Broad Run (-17.0) @ Briar Woods

Centreville @ Tuscarora (-8.0)
*Curious to see how the Wildcats respond to being drubbed. I have trouble imagining it two straight weeks, but it is definitely possible playing a team the caliber of Tuscarora on the road. Still I look for this one to be close.

Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon

Jefferson @ Edison (-14.0)

Lake Braddock (-10.0) @ West Potomac
*I lied I think the Patriot is 4 deep, West Potomac is pretty legitimate this year. This should be a good game.

Langley @ Madison (-10.0)

McLean @ South Lakes (-21.0)

Oakton (-1.0) @ Robinson
*I think Oakton is good at keying on the run, this will be a good Concorde showdown though that could go either way.

Potomac Falls (-24.0) @ Marshall

South County (-10.0) @ West Springfield
*A great game worth keeping an eye on.

Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield
*Assuming Westfield’s starters are still suspended, any update?

Stuart @ Lee (-7.0)

TC Williams (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon

Woodson @ Annandale (-8.5)
*We can only hope it’s like last year’s shootout.

Wakefield (-7.0) @ Falls Church
*This might very well decide the conference 13 championship. Kind of sad?

Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-10.0)

Yorktown (-10.0) @ Fairfax

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 19, 2015 06:24PM

Westfield gets 2 starters back, an RB and CB. They"ll actually have a running back capable of taking it to the house. However they need to find someone to play OL and BLOCK!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jagparent ()
Date: September 19, 2015 07:32PM

Not that anyone cares, but that Jags are really down this year. Lots of Sophmores and Juniors starting for them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCo Slammer ()
Date: September 19, 2015 09:26PM

WF returning beer pong team members will suffer from atrophy upon their return and will fall to the turf like a crumpled rag doll before the 3rd quarter.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Regis ()
Date: September 20, 2015 08:35AM

I know it isn't historic, but congrats to Chantilly kicker #88 Carolina Smart. Hitting a pair of PATs and two successful pouch kickoffs Friday at SB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: September 20, 2015 10:23AM

After four weeks of action (four for the PWC teams and 3 for the Fairfax/Arlington teams), I've posted the Power Points standings.

6 North
1. South County (85) 28.33
2. West Springfield (83) 27.67
3. Lake Braddock (81) 27.00
4. Battlefield (105) 26.25
5. West Potomac (78) 26.00
6. Oakton (75) 25.00
7. Centreville (73) 24.33
Westfield (73) 24.33
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9. Madison (71) 23.67
South Lakes (71) 23.67
11. Chantilly (68) 22.67
12. Herndon (67) 22.33
13. Mount Vernon (67) 22.33
14. Robinson (62) 20.67
15. Fairfax (61) 20.33
16. Hayfield (59) 19.67
W.T. Woodson (59) 19.67
Yorktown (59) 19.67

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19. Annandale (58) 19.33
20. Patriot (76) 19.00
T.C. Williams (57) 19.00
22. Osbourn (74) 18.50
23. Washington-Lee (55) 18.33
24. Osbourn Park (67) 16.75
25. Langley (50) 16.67
26. Stonewall Jackson (64) 16.00
27. McLean (46) 15.33

Teams above the first line are the teams that would host a playoff game, if the season were to end today based on these standings. Teams below the second line would be out of the playoffs. Note that we have ties for 7th place, 9th place, and a tie for 16th place, representing the final playoff slot.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: D5 is very much alive! ()
Date: September 20, 2015 11:43AM

Well done, NR football fan.

Surely, you realize that there are some very, very good D5 teams out there, although none in Fairfax or Arlington.

Can you figure out the D5 Power Points for us?

Also, can you share the VHSL formula?

Thank you!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 20, 2015 01:00PM

D5 is very much alive! Wrote:
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> Well done, NR football fan.
>
> Surely, you realize that there are some very, very
> good D5 teams out there, although none in Fairfax
> or Arlington.
>
> Can you figure out the D5 Power Points for us?
>
> Also, can you share the VHSL formula?
>
> Thank you!


Or you could go to VirginiaPreps and see ththis for yourself.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy doppelganger ()
Date: September 20, 2015 02:19PM

D5 is very much alive! Wrote:
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> D5 Power Points for us?


Massaponax (116) 29.00
Mountain View (114) 28.50
Broad Run (112) 28.00
Tuscarora (107) 26.75
Brooke Point (75) 25.00
Stone Bridge (72) 24.00
Potomac Falls (95) 23.75
North Stafford (71) 23.67
Patrick Henry (Ash) (71) 23.67
Potomac (70) 23.33
Marshall (66) 22.00
Albemarle (65) 21.67
Atlee (63) 21.00
Orange (63) 21.00
Halifax County (83) 20.75
Briar Woods (80) 20.00
Wakefield (59) 19.67
Falls Church (53) 17.67
Lee (50) 16.67
Stafford (49) 16.33
Stuart (47) 15.67
Edison (46) 15.33
Thomas Jefferson (46) 15.33

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Info needed ()
Date: September 21, 2015 09:16AM

Can anyone confirm that South County ran a double lateral half-back pass from their own endzone vs. Hayfield on Friday? It all happened so fast, with a resulting 90 yard pass for a td down the right sideline, that we've been debating what we saw all weekend. Thanks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: West soco ()
Date: September 21, 2015 10:09AM

SCvWS should be the game of the week. Definitely going this one

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VHSL Power Point Formula Explanation
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 21, 2015 10:20AM

D5 is very much alive! Wrote:
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> Also, can you share the VHSL formula?

Below is the short short [sic] version of how the VHSL Football Power Points work:

1. Game Points: A team gets 26 points for a win against a 6A team, 14 points for a loss against a 6A team. 24 points for a win against a 5A team, 12 points for a loss against a 5A team. And so on.

2. Bonus Points: A team also gets bonus points for every game they play based on a combination of a) the number of wins their opponent has and b) whether they win or lose each game.

If a team wins a game, they get 2 bonus points for each win the team they defeated has. For example, if you defeat a team that is 2-8 for the season you get 4 bonus points (2 wins x 2 bonus points/win).

If a team loses a game, they get 1 bonus point for each win the team they lost to has. For example, if you lose to a team that is 8-2 for the season you get 8 bonus points (8 wins x 1 bonus point/win).

3. Classification Points VHSL also gives bonus points for a higher classification team playing a lower classification team. If a 6A team plays a 5A team within their own DISTRICT they get 2 bonus points. This way they are not penalized for playing a lower classification team at all. If 6A team plays a 5A team outside their own DISTRICT they get 1 bonus point. This partially makes up for playing a lower classification.

Examples

Westfield
Game #1 (Westfield 30, Washington-Lee 10)
1. Game Points: Win against 6A team = 26 points
2. Bonus Points: Washington-Lee has 1-2 record. Formula = 1 win x 2 points/win = 2 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 6A = no points
Total: 28 points

Game #2 (South County 26, Westfield 19)
1. Game Points: Loss against 6A team = 14 points
2. Bonus Points: South County has 3-0 record. Formula = 3 wins x 1 point/win = 3 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 6A = no points
Total: 17 points

Game #3 (Westfield 21, T.C. Williams 6)
1. Game Points: Win against 6A team = 26 points
2. Bonus Points: T.W. Williams has 1-2 record. Formula = 1 win x 2 points/win = 2 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 6A = no points
Total: 28 points

Season Total = 73 points / 3 games = 24.33

Centreville
Game #1 (Centreville 27, Annandale 17)
1. Game Points: Win against 6A team = 26 points
2. Bonus Points: Annandale has 1-2 record. Formula = 1 win x 2 points/win = 2 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 6A = no points
Total: 28 points

Game #2 (Centreville 28, Fairfax 6)
1. Game Points: Win against 6A team = 26 points
2. Bonus Points: Fairfax has 1-2 record. Formula = 1 win x 2 points/win = 2 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 6A = no points
Total: 28 points

Game #3 (Broad Run 56, Centreville 21)
1. Game Points: Loss against 5A team = 12 points
2. Bonus Points: Broad Run has 4-0 record. Formula = 4 wins x 1 point/win = 4 points
3. Classification Points: 6A vs 5A (out of district) = 1 point
Total: 17 points

Season Total = 73 points / 3 games = 24.33
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Toss Pass ()
Date: September 21, 2015 10:51AM

Info needed Wrote:
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> Can anyone confirm that South County ran a double
> lateral half-back pass from their own endzone vs.
> Hayfield on Friday? It all happened so fast, with
> a resulting 90 yard pass for a td down the right
> sideline, that we've been debating what we saw all
> weekend. Thanks.


It was a toss pass, not a double lateral.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Okay ()
Date: September 21, 2015 01:59PM

Okay. But didn't two players touch the ball after it was tossed by the qb? QB to RB to WR/RB.....pass to streaking WR?

It was a gutsy call to make from your own endzone, especially after Hayfield had scored the last three time they had the ball (albeit once on downs and then on a bad snap to the punter).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nope, wrong again ()
Date: September 21, 2015 02:34PM

No only the RB touched the ball after the QB tossed it to him. He reverses out and then tosses the ball to the RB coming the other way. The RB sprints to the offenses right pulls up and throws it to a wide open receiver.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: pleasegodenditnow ()
Date: September 21, 2015 02:47PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Went away for the weekend.... ()
Date: September 21, 2015 06:06PM

and missed the action.
Can anyone tell me what the hell happened to Centreville?
Is that a misprint? Did they win by 35... or lose by 35... at home?
Against a D5 team? WTF?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: That guy yo ()
Date: September 21, 2015 09:14PM

Yes, Cville lost by 35 points at home. Cville is not half the team they were last year. However, broad run is not just any ordinary D5 team, they're usually in the top tier of d5 with with Stone bridge, Briar woods, and tusky.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Footballis sweet ()
Date: September 21, 2015 10:26PM

Steve k2 you know ur hs football! You should hook up w the gamedaymagazine crew!

This is going to be a crazy year in the region for sure. More parity than ever.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: novanewbie ()
Date: September 22, 2015 09:45AM

In two of the last three Stone Bridge games I have been to Coach Thompson has drawn a penalty for abusing referees while throwing a temper tantrum over a call. Both of them were close calls - maybe he was right - maybe not, but neither case appeared to be an absolute clear-cut wrong call. What’s with this dude and has he always been like that? I know he’s been around forever but I didn’t know he had rep for being a hothead. And what kind of example is this to show to high school kids?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 22, 2015 11:53AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield

Speaking of Stone Bridge, I didn’t think their line play looked as strong as the past several years and other than their QB they don’t seem to have any game-breaking playmakers on offense or special teams. Their running game appeared pretty weak. They have a couple of big tight ends that run good routes and can catch the ball. They are playing a lot of underclassmen on defense.

Even so, they are a solid program and I agree with putting them as the favorites to win this game. Westfield’s offense will have a hard time scoring enough points and I think #4 will make enough plays to win this one for SB. I would think like a 24-17 game. Maybe WFD kicker can actually hit a FG this week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Novawatcher ()
Date: September 22, 2015 12:26PM

"In two of the last three Stone Bridge games I have been to Coach Thompson has drawn a penalty for abusing referees while throwing a temper tantrum over a call. Both of them were close calls - maybe he was right - maybe not, but neither case appeared to be an absolute clear-cut wrong call. What’s with this dude and has he always been like that? I know he’s been around forever but I didn’t know he had rep for being a hothead. And what kind of example is this to show to high school kids?"


Interesting about Thompson, I heard that his team several years ago showed a lack of class after they lost the state final game during the post-game festivities. I think if you search on this board, you can probably find the thread.

He's been a successful coach and he's had successful teams, but you are not the first person to take note of Thompson's temperment.

In any event, it may be a moot point going forward, as the word on the street is that he will step down once his senior QB son graduates this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 22, 2015 04:18PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield

Speaking of Stone Bridge, I didn’t think their line play looked as strong as the past several years and other than their QB they don’t seem to have any game-breaking playmakers on offense or special teams. Their running game appeared pretty weak. They have a couple of big tight ends that run good routes and can catch the ball. They are playing a lot of underclassmen on defense.

Even so, they are a solid program and I agree with putting them as the favorites to win this game. Westfield’s offense will have a hard time scoring enough points and I think #4 will make enough plays to win this one for SB. I would think like a 24-17 game. Maybe WFD kicker can actually hit a FG this week.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Well, Westfield has their top RB back this week from suspension so they actually have a threat in the run game. That will be a big plus for their struggling offense. They've put a couple of their defensive players at the TE and FB position as well to help shore up the blocking.

Also remember that Westfield's strength is their defense, the starting unit has only given up 26 points, all to SOCO. The 10 W&L scored was against 2nd and 3rd string, the 6 T.C. Williams got was on an INT return for TD. I know 26 against SOCO doesn't seem impressive but the Stallions average 58.5 in their other two contests. Not against powder puff teams either, Briar Woods and Hayfield.

Should be a good game either way.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 23, 2015 08:14AM

Here goes:

Broad Run (-17.0) @ Briar Woods
Broad Run. If not for a KO return to the house and a pick 6 last week, Briar Woods/West Po would have been a LOT worse. BW isn't a very good team right now.


Centreville @ Tuscarora (-8.0)
*Curious to see how the Wildcats respond to being drubbed. I have trouble imagining it two straight weeks, but it is definitely possible playing a team the caliber of Tuscarora on the road. Still I look for this one to be close.

I think there'll be putting doses of pride in the C'ville water bottles. C'ville wins this.


Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon

Chantilly wins and covers. Herndon's not a very good football team.

Jefferson @ Edison (-14.0)

Edison wins, but not by that much.


Lake Braddock (-10.0) @ West Potomac
*I lied I think the Patriot is 4 deep, West Potomac is pretty legitimate this year. This should be a good game.

West Po gets the purple monkey off its back.

Langley @ Madison (-10.0)

Madison wins and covers.

McLean @ South Lakes (-21.0)

South Lakes wins, but doesn't cover.


Oakton (-1.0) @ Robinson
*I think Oakton is good at keying on the run, this will be a good Concorde showdown though that could go either way.

It's going to depend on whether Robinson's defense steps up. I'll take Oakton.


Potomac Falls (-24.0) @ Marshall

Potomac Falls, wins and covers.

South County (-10.0) @ West Springfield
*A great game worth keeping an eye on.

My heart says West Springfield in an upset.


Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield
*Assuming Westfield’s starters are still suspended, any update?

I'll take Stone Bridge to win and cover.

Stuart @ Lee (-7.0)

What about a push? Are pushes allowed? If I had to take one, I'll take Lee, but they won't cover that spread.

TC Williams (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon

Down Goes Majors! Down Goes Majors! TC smokes MV like a pack of Kools. Welcome to Conference 7, Coach Wells. The guy at the gate will validate your parking.

Woodson @ Annandale (-8.5)
*We can only hope it’s like last year’s shootout.

I don't know why, but I'm going with Woodson on this one.

Wakefield (-7.0) @ Falls Church
*This might very well decide the conference 13 championship. Kind of sad?

I'll take Wakefield to cover.


Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-10.0)

Hayfield's going to have a mad on after last week. They win and cover.

Yorktown (-10.0) @ Fairfax

Yorktown wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: west side > south side ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:43AM

west springfield over south county this friday.. you heard it hear first. Muskett is the best QB in the conference if not region. DOWN GOES COUNTY!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: This guy! ()
Date: September 23, 2015 10:25AM

west side > south side Wrote:
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> west springfield over south county this friday..
> you heard it hear first. Muskett is the best QB in
> the conference if not region. DOWN GOES COUNTY!!!


Watch the film, WS has no chance! Even if they have 22 Muskett's on the team, they would still lose by 30 points.

Soco is too much on both sides of the ball, and WS is probably spending most of their practices preparing for Soco's special teams. I have Soco big in this one!! Only thing WS might have is a bigger crowd, but they will be disappointed at the end of the night!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: New Sheriff In Town ()
Date: September 23, 2015 11:06AM

Westfield Returns one Player this week, Unless the new LAW in the Hall's decides to kick a few more off the Team... Word Has it the Most Dynamic Running Back to NEVER take A Snap this year, Will Never Take a Snap... Life Lessons are bigger than Football!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver ()
Date: September 23, 2015 11:15AM

NOVA has 5 really outstanding games here:

Broad Run (-17.0) @ Briar Woods / Briar Woods in an upset
Centreville @ Tuscarora (-8.0) / Tuscarora wins
Lake Braddock (-10.0) @ West Potomac / Lake Braddock wins
Oakton (-1.0) @ Robinson / Robinson wins
South County (-10.0) @ West Springfield / South County wins - won't be close
Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield / Stone Bridge wins in OT

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: lightsout ()
Date: September 23, 2015 11:37AM

You need to chill about Muskett. WS has played 3 weak teams and you gonna claim Muskett is the best in the Conference? Get real.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Max Preps ()
Date: September 23, 2015 12:19PM

Musket has second best qb rating (140) in 6A Va
Clayton is #8 w qbr 115

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lb observer ()
Date: September 23, 2015 12:25PM

footballobserver Wrote:
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> The two best teams will be Centreville and SoCo.
> SoCo program been slowly building and they def
> ready to make a big move this year. They will
> show their mettle vs. Westfield on September 11.
> Westfield is going down!
>
> Centreville will be under-rated early dis season
> but don’t count them out. They have a ton of
> talent coming back (kids just couldn’t get on
> the field last year), good coaching and they will
> finish 9-1; 8-2 at worst. Bet on it. It will be
> Centreville vs. SoCo for the 6A North champ and
> SoCo will come out on top.


Football observer
Your observations suck
Is Cville still underrated ?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver ()
Date: September 23, 2015 12:58PM

Eh, that was a different person. Did not pick up someone else used that. Centreville is not underrated - they a good middle-of-the-road team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS Nova Fan ()
Date: September 23, 2015 12:58PM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Max Preps ()
Date: September 23, 2015 12:19PM

Musket has second best qb rating (140) in 6A Va
Clayton is #8 w qbr 115

Where are the ratings? Love to see the whole list

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Max Preps ()
Date: September 23, 2015 01:18PM

You can find a whole slew of stat information at maxpreps.com. Just pull down the football tab and click on stat leaders. All the analysis is there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Down goes county ()
Date: September 23, 2015 01:19PM

Muskett is the real deal... WS wins in a shootout 46-38

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Real deal.... ()
Date: September 23, 2015 03:03PM

Down goes county Wrote:
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> Muskett is the real deal... WS wins in a shootout
> 46-38


Muskett gets his teeth knocked out by #55 on the second play of the game!! He won't last a quarter running the ball like he does against a defense like Soco has. The kid is good, but be realistic. He's all WS has, and Soco will be ready for him!

Keep in mind the QB ratings, and base it off of who they've played. WS has two awful teams and an average at best Robinson team, Soco three legit contenders and Clayton's only played in two of those games!

Like i said, Soco big in this one!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Overrattttedd? ()
Date: September 23, 2015 04:57PM

Didn't they put 35 on Robinson. I don't think LB did that and they are ranked higher

WS qb is real good but they may not be deep enough. Soco will unravel and lose to WS in the playoffs

Briar woods is not good this and Westfields wasn't close to full strength and they still scored 19. WS is a lot better on offense

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 23, 2015 05:02PM

New Sheriff In Town Wrote:
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> Westfield Returns one Player this week, Unless the
> new LAW in the Hall's decides to kick a few more
> off the Team... Word Has it the Most Dynamic
> Running Back to NEVER take A Snap this year, Will
> Never Take a Snap... Life Lessons are bigger than
> Football!


http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2015/sep/23/chantilly-westfield-defense-delivers-victory-again/

Simmons said two players will return for this week’s game against Stone Bridge, and the other four will return two weeks after that.

Note #9 RB Taevon Chapman-Greene and #27 DB Tavon Greene for Westfield are not the same person. I've seen some confusion on that because of the similar names.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: real deal ()
Date: September 23, 2015 05:29PM

SC #55 is strong with only 3 solo tackles and 5 total in 3 games but WS QB has a good supporting cast that will exploit the SC D weaknesses.

PS: Hayfield is not a contender and WF only hung in the game because the idiotic strategy to give them good field position on kick offs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 6 guy ()
Date: September 23, 2015 06:36PM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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>
> Langley @ Madison (-10.0)
>
> Madison wins and covers.
>
> McLean @ South Lakes (-21.0)
>
> South Lakes wins, but doesn't cover.
>


Pretty much agree with all your picks except these two. Langley lost to good teams and they struggle with teams that have speed, as far as I know Madison isn't a speed demon team. I don't know if they'll win but I think it will be a good game that they cover.

Mclean is just plain bad and looking down the barrel of an 0-fer season. When you lose to Marshall early and they're the softest team on your schedule then you know it's going to be a long season. The best chance at a W for them from here out is against Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Be serious ()
Date: September 23, 2015 06:41PM

PS: Hayfield is not a contender and WF only hung in the game because the idiotic strategy to give them good field position on kick offs.

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Westfield hung in the game because they play great defense, see the article above your post. Had nothing to do with field position, until their 5 suspended starters on offense return the D will have to carry them.

SOCO had over 70 offensive plays compared to WF's 40, on a warm night with a no-huddle offense. To only give up 26 wasn't bad, especially considering the long TD pass was third and long, blown coverage by the WF defender. Btw, the defender was filling in for the one lone defensive starter suspended for WF.

SOCO is a solid team, so is WS, should be a great game. But don't put too much into ratings, as the previous post suggested. If you roll up stats against weak defenses it's an overinflated rating.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: another conference 6 guy ()
Date: September 23, 2015 08:15PM

Conf 6 guy Wrote:
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> Conf 7 guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Langley @ Madison (-10.0)
> >
> > Madison wins and covers.
> >
> > McLean @ South Lakes (-21.0)
> >
> > South Lakes wins, but doesn't cover.
> >
>
>
> Pretty much agree with all your picks except these
> two. Langley lost to good teams and they struggle
> with teams that have speed, as far as I know
> Madison isn't a speed demon team. I don't know if
> they'll win but I think it will be a good game
> that they cover.
>
> Mclean is just plain bad and looking down the
> barrel of an 0-fer season. When you lose to
> Marshall early and they're the softest team on
> your schedule then you know it's going to be a
> long season. The best chance at a W for them from
> here out is against Fairfax.


I disagree with you and agree with Conf7 guy on Madison/Langley. I have trouble believing that Langley is as bad as their 0-3 record would suggest, but Madison is good this year, and I think they will cover.

I agree with you about McLean. South Lakes will win and cover. My quibble is that I think that McLean has a better shot at a win against WL than Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: New Sheriff in town ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:09PM

Unfortunately Simmons is only the Coach and he doesn't call all the shots, WF RETURNS 1 this week, and 1 is done for his career! Stick to refurbishing helmets.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville fan ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:10PM

Heard today Centreville is going to protest the last game due to Broad Run playing with an illegal player. Broad Run running back is not living with his legal guardian. He is living with a relative outside of his legal address. He should attend Herndon.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Civille Fan 2 ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:15PM

Centreville protesting players legitimacy.....now that's some funny shit! Maybe the Broad Run coach should offer his Gaurdian a water boy spot Like Centreville does for their recruits guardians...cry babies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What a joke ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:36PM

Heard today Centreville is going to protest the last game due to Broad Run playing with an illegal player. Broad Run running back is not living with his legal guardian. He is living with a relative outside of his legal address. He should attend Herndon.

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Doesn't really matter in the long run, even if true that gets you one victory. That's not going to help Centreville in the playoffs cause they're a shell of who they've been in the past.

Watched the Gameday Broadcast of the game, Centreville is not as big or strong along the trenches as they've been the past few years. That game against Broad Run was no fluke, Centreville is in for a long season no matter how many transfers Haddock has on his team.

By the way, it was also no secret when Wiggins played on Centreville's team a couple years ago his family lived in South Riding. He should have been at Freedom as he was his freshman year. I think Love also came from somewhere in the Loudon county area.

Bottom line it's impossible for FCPS or any school system to keep tabs on where these kids live as opposed to their home address. The officials in charge of this are actual teachers of the school the student attends. That's not a very good system but it is what it is.

For Haddock to cry foul is a joke, take the loss and suck it up like everyone else does. Didn't hear opponents for the past few years complaining about Centreville's transfers or juiced players for that matter!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 24, 2015 12:09AM

Wiggins lived within the Cville lines. Be it an apartment with a family member. He wasn't the only one from freedom that did it too. Think two were at Westfield. Teachers are not the officials. The Sro officers look into that. Love was freshman at Cville so not sure where that info came from. True it's only one win. Question is..... Who told them about the player? Would love to see the list of transfers who played besides wiggins the last few years and the juiced players too. In the end they are not the same team as in the past. In fact this will be his weakest team at Cville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No sir ()
Date: September 24, 2015 08:54AM

Overrattttedd? Wrote:
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> Didn't they put 35 on Robinson. I don't think LB
> did that and they are ranked higher
>
> WS qb is real good but they may not be deep
> enough. Soco will unravel and lose to WS in the
> playoffs
>
> Briar woods is not good this and Westfields wasn't
> close to full strength and they still scored 19.
> WS is a lot better on offense

Watch the Robinson film if you get a chance, they are awful! They had no clue, and played like it especially on offense. LB is a rival game, so no surprise Robinson played a little harder. Or could LB just not be that good?

I agree the QB for WS is good, but he is the only good player on the entire offense. Contain him, they have nothing. On D they are slow up front, and small everywhere else. They look like a bunch of midgets running around with their heads cut off.

Briar Woods knows how to win, so you have to prepare for them.

Please stop taking about Westfields players being suspended, isn't that excuse used up by now? Also, if Westfields kids had any pride they would of missed the party and focused on the upcoming season, don't let ignorance be an excuse for lack of offensive production and commitment to your team. They lost, deal with it!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: He would crush you! ()
Date: September 24, 2015 08:56AM

real deal Wrote:
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> SC #55 is strong with only 3 solo tackles and 5
> total in 3 games but WS QB has a good supporting
> cast that will exploit the SC D weaknesses.
>
> PS: Hayfield is not a contender and WF only hung
> in the game because the idiotic strategy to give
> them good field position on kick offs.


SC's #55 would destroy you just like he's going to destroy Muskett Friday night!!

Hayfield wins 6 games, that gets you into the playoffs last time I checked.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Joke ()
Date: September 24, 2015 08:58AM

Cville fan Wrote:
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> Heard today Centreville is going to protest the
> last game due to Broad Run playing with an illegal
> player. Broad Run running back is not living with
> his legal guardian. He is living with a relative
> outside of his legal address. He should attend
> Herndon.


What a joke, just deal with the fact that you stink this year!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldong 23 ()
Date: September 24, 2015 09:34AM

Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Relax ()
Date: September 24, 2015 09:34AM

Please stop taking about Westfields players being suspended, isn't that excuse used up by now? Also, if Westfields kids had any pride they would of missed the party and focused on the upcoming season, don't let ignorance be an excuse for lack of offensive production and commitment to your team. They lost, deal with it!!

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First off it's talking not taking. Second, I don't think it was meant as an excuse, just that with half their starters gone WF scored 19 against SOCO. The post was merely stating that the WS offense would be capable of putting points on the board and that the SOCO defense had not yet faced as potent as an offense.

It also has been talked about on this thread because it speaks volumes about the WF program. You think there are many teams that could lose half of their starters on offense and still compete with quality teams such as SOCO. Or for that matter lesser teams at all, so just relax.

Also, you think WF is the only high school that had players at parties, the weekend BEFORE school started? No, they just had the unfortunate luck that an idiot took pictures of the players. An idiot who returned home past curfew to an angry father who happens to be a principal in the FCPS system. An individual who in the past had attempted to bring down one of the other school's varsity programs as a result of his personal agenda/vendetta against the school.

So again, relax, and if you're tired of reading about it on this thread then don't log in!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog 23 ()
Date: September 24, 2015 09:39AM

Looking at game predictions How long is Fairfax going to go with that coach? He has a few good years with the Penn state guy, but friend say Centreville game and said it was the worst Wing T team he has ever seen. And to give up 24 points to Woodson in first half? Are they the next TJ?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bruin nation ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:03AM

in all honesty LB will be the school to represent the north in the state final. they are in a class of their own, and poythress is one of the best coaches around he produces year after year.. LB all the way

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Adadknowsadadwhenhereadsone ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:06AM

The Northern Virginia dads are really all over this thread. We are all proud of our kids but to act like you are some guy that just happens to know a ton about a particular program without being and involved parent is pushing it....and a bit tiresome. We know the WF young man is a great linebacker and we can tell the WS QBs dad is proud of his son. He should be. SOCO dad is proud too. We get it. Some of these kids have committed and that is great. Pumping a kid here or lashing out will not get any college coach interested. And it won't win anyone a state title. Chill. Love to see some more of the non-trash talking, not overly defensive analysis that a few people bring here.

We could all sling in here about transfers, reclasses, refs, mean coaches, etc., but won't solve anything.

And come on guys, not too hard to know who is who here.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Adadknowsadadwhenhereadsone ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:30AM

But let's be realistic and learn from the recent past:

6A - its WF or SOCOs to lose. Cville will improve off that loss and may be tough. The rest will take very special circumstances to beat them. As a dad at one of those other programs not anywhere mentioned on this thread, I hope they can do it

But LB/WS have good systems but likely not enough athletes/size for the long haul, even with very talented leaders behind center.

I live in our beloved Fairfax County, but it looks like the game is shifting west, just like it has very slowly for the past 30 years....following new family creation. To western Fairfax, with a few exceptions, and into LC. These teams have been good and getting even better, regardless of classification. With FC teams weakening a bit, it might be that time that you can say there are more very good LC teams than very good FC teams. Somebody here made a similar claim a week or so ago....totally logical.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Relax ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:49AM

The Northern Virginia dads are really all over this thread. We are all proud of our kids but to act like you are some guy that just happens to know a ton about a particular program without being and involved parent is pushing it....and a bit tiresome. We know the WF young man is a great linebacker and we can tell the WS QBs dad is proud of his son. He should be. SOCO dad is proud too. We get it. Some of these kids have committed and that is great. Pumping a kid here or lashing out will not get any college coach interested. And it won't win anyone a state title. Chill. Love to see some more of the non-trash talking, not overly defensive analysis that a few people bring here.

We could all sling in here about transfers, reclasses, refs, mean coaches, etc., but won't solve anything.

And come on guys, not too hard to know who is who here.

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Of course parents are on here, players as well, probably coaches too. I'm not sure who would be as interested in this thread as the afore mentioned. I agree with both of your posts, for the most part. Haven't really seen much boasting about any particular player other than the WS QB recently.

I especially agree with your point on the power shifting to LC, although just a few teams. These schools are being fed by newly developed, clean, fresh, upscale neighborhoods, similar to what FFX county was years ago. Many residents are just transplants from FFX looking to upgrade or move to a nicer location.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Point made ()
Date: September 24, 2015 12:49PM

Relax Wrote:
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> Please stop taking about Westfields players being
> suspended, isn't that excuse used up by now? Also,
> if Westfields kids had any pride they would of
> missed the party and focused on the upcoming
> season, don't let ignorance be an excuse for lack
> of offensive production and commitment to your
> team. They lost, deal with it!!
>
> __________________________________________________
> _________
>
> First off it's talking not taking. Second, I don't
> think it was meant as an excuse, just that with
> half their starters gone WF scored 19 against
> SOCO. The post was merely stating that the WS
> offense would be capable of putting points on the
> board and that the SOCO defense had not yet faced
> as potent as an offense.
>
> It also has been talked about on this thread
> because it speaks volumes about the WF program.
> You think there are many teams that could lose
> half of their starters on offense and still
> compete with quality teams such as SOCO. Or for
> that matter lesser teams at all, so just relax.
>
> Also, you think WF is the only high school that
> had players at parties, the weekend BEFORE school
> started? No, they just had the unfortunate luck
> that an idiot took pictures of the players. An
> idiot who returned home past curfew to an angry
> father who happens to be a principal in the FCPS
> system. An individual who in the past had
> attempted to bring down one of the other school's
> varsity programs as a result of his personal
> agenda/vendetta against the school.
>
> So again, relax, and if you're tired of reading
> about it on this thread then don't log in!


I'll relax when you stop making excuses for WF's loss. It's simple, they didn't score as much as Soco and that's it. Even with all "six starters" back in the line up, they lose to Soco. I hope there's a rematch, just have to make sure there aren't any parties before the game I guess. Also, don't think all six starters were offensive threats.

Don't think WF is the only school that parties either, not that stupid...However, if you are stupid enough to get caught, not that speaks volumes like you mentioned.

WS a potent offense, now that's funny!

The guys that want to talk football, go join a fantasy league and get off of here!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Huhwhat? ()
Date: September 24, 2015 01:41PM

I think this is a good place to talk football..it is a HS football forum....just sayin'......

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Point This ()
Date: September 24, 2015 01:42PM

You Big Bad internet Tough Guy, I'm going to Bring My Ankel-biter football team over to your house and destroy you....all your Blow hard BS does not matter as NO Northern Region Team Will hoist the Trophy, If you want to be the Team Crying at Charlottesville enjoy the Long ride Back because Centreville/SOCO/LB nor Broad Run can hold a candle to the OCEANS cheating Ways!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Relax ()
Date: September 24, 2015 01:47PM

The guys that want to talk football, go join a fantasy league and get off of here!!

Also, don't think all six starters were offensive threats.

_________________________________________________________

So if we want to talk football we should go join a fantasy league?

You do know the thread is High School Football 2015?

What else are we supposed to talk about?

BTW, 2 starting WR's, 1 starting RB, and the true QB, so yes, I'd say those are productive guys.

I'm sure WF hopes they get a rematch too!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smack Point Made ()
Date: September 24, 2015 04:34PM

As Relax typed in his post, this forum and thread is the place to discuss, analyze and review High School Football for 2015. Your proposal to go join a fantasy league truly displays your lack of comprehension and calls into account anything else you may write.

That being said, SOCO barely survived the WF game. They did win, but it certainly wasn't a game to be bragging about. WF without 4 key offensive studs and all SOCO can do is squeak by? Normally in HS football even the loss of one or two key players can doom a team, regardless of how good the other players are. So yes, had those players been participants I do believe the outcome would have been very different. But they were not playing and SOCO got the W. Every team faces some sort of injury or loss of key players during the season, so no crying at WF. The point is that upon notification that players were violating the players agreement and the law, they were suspended from play. That should speak volumes in and of itself regarding the WF program overall.

If WF ends up making the playoffs and advancing, that should also speak to the quality and integrity of the program. Let's hope that no other schools suffer the same loss of key players to their program.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 24, 2015 04:55PM

What is happening here is all too familiar. C'mon. Folks like to discuss and analyze all facets of a game.

Inevitably, people start talking about injuries and penalties and the mere discussion of their impact (injury) and legitimacy (penalty) is taken as "excuses" or "whining" when a large percentage of the time it is really just talk about all the factors that go into the outcome of a game. It is very difficult to discuss injuries, penalties and I guess suspensions with getting accused of "whining" or "making excuses."

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: both of them ()
Date: September 24, 2015 06:32PM

I think that both Westfield and SOCO suck...one is a choker and the other a wannabe

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: i wuv you ()
Date: September 25, 2015 07:46AM

I wuv Hendo at Hayfield, he is my guy.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WOW 2 ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:24AM

Point This Wrote:
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> You Big Bad internet Tough Guy, I'm going to Bring
> My Ankel-biter football team over to your house
> and destroy you....all your Blow hard BS does not
> matter as NO Northern Region Team Will hoist the
> Trophy, If you want to be the Team Crying at
> Charlottesville enjoy the Long ride Back because
> Centreville/SOCO/LB nor Broad Run can hold a
> candle to the OCEANS cheating Ways!

Broad Run is a D5 team!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No sir ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:25AM

Relax Wrote:
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> The guys that want to talk football, go join a
> fantasy league and get off of here!!
>
> Also, don't think all six starters were offensive
> threats.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _______
>
> So if we want to talk football we should go join a
> fantasy league?
>
> You do know the thread is High School Football
> 2015?
>
> What else are we supposed to talk about?
>
> BTW, 2 starting WR's, 1 starting RB, and the true
> QB, so yes, I'd say those are productive guys.
>
> I'm sure WF hopes they get a rematch too!

RB was hurt, not suspended. Can't wait for a rematch, is WF can make it that far.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Where's Muran?? ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:29AM

Haven't heard from Muran in a while. He always has such amazing analysis of HS football!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WS Sucks ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:31AM

Heard WS students tarnished the Soco bronze stallions at their stadium last night. Bad move on their part, as if Soco needed any further motivation to destroy them tonight!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You Suck ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:32AM

both of them Wrote:
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> I think that both Westfield and SOCO suck...one is
> a choker and the other a wannabe

Must be a Braddock fan! Go West Po!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MURAN ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:17AM

Muran back round eyes,

Hope-furee you rearn resson and take Muran at word. Stal-rion sooooooo mad at Spartan today for bring such disonah on horse. Dey make swear tonigh will be end of day for Spartan. Numbah 55 say he will make all Spartan cry like new born babee when he done. Rook for super great sooooo fantastic kickah to be kick ball super goo.

Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hmmmmm ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:45AM

^^^^ Ya know, I was just thinking the exact same thing.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yes ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:48AM

MURAN Wrote:
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> Muran back round eyes,
>
> Hope-furee you rearn resson and take Muran at
> word. Stal-rion sooooooo mad at Spartan today for
> bring such disonah on horse. Dey make swear tonigh
> will be end of day for Spartan. Numbah 55 say he
> will make all Spartan cry like new born babee when
> he done. Rook for super great sooooo fantastic
> kickah to be kick ball super goo.
>
> Muran

Good analysis, Muran!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WOW 3 ()
Date: September 25, 2015 12:17PM

#55 he so short, he cant run so fast on step ladder...WS Did not deface Stallion, Horny Goat from Muran Back Yard get Roos and Love Him Long time...Musket Fires away...!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCo Daddy ()
Date: September 25, 2015 01:17PM

#55 been drinking that Bane juice too much and gonna get cold cocked on the first play tonight bitches

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KevinAllen55 ()
Date: September 25, 2015 01:26PM

Somebody pissed of Bane and did the worse thang possiball and they don't even no it...U made this personnel
" Bane AT kevinallen551"

0 retweets 6 favors

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Google Obit ()
Date: September 25, 2015 01:35PM

Google knows #55
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Katie Grizzel ()
Date: September 25, 2015 02:25PM

kevinallen551 Kevin Allen is leading south county to watch the game at states.

Sign up for your bus tickets now to watch in the stands while Bane crawls back into his dark hole...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Too Short Katie ()
Date: September 25, 2015 04:24PM

Yep because college and the pro's are full of 5'-8" linebackers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bane ()
Date: September 25, 2015 04:31PM

I'm 5-11 thank you and sometimes 6 foot when I drink all my Hateraides juice.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bane ()
Date: September 25, 2015 04:33PM

have you seen my Twitter pics? I'm so short I need a step ladder from my big monster truck.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 25, 2015 08:19PM

Scores at around half

Stone Bridge 7 @ Westfield 7
Centreville 21 @ Tuscarora 35
Broad Run 10 @ Briar Woods 10
Oakton 10 @ Robinson 14
South County 21 @ West Springfield 13
West Potomac 14 @ Lake Braddock 10
Chantilly 56 @ Herndon 11
Potomac Falls 16

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: September 25, 2015 09:44PM

What is wrong with you people?!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:16PM

Broad Run (-17.0) @ Briar Woods
*Broad Run won 31-24. Although Briar Woods is 1-4 they still have a pretty good team. Lee comes to Ashburn next week, look for that to be a demolition.

Centreville @ Tuscarora (-8.0)
*Tuscarora won 49-42. Centreville definitely elevated their performance offensively with an effective night running their Wings and Things option package, but they have given up 104 points their last 2 games. Did they give up that many either of the last two seasons?

Chantilly (-16.0) @ Herndon
*Chantilly won 69-31. This was 42-0 in the 1st and the second stringers came in. A dominant performance for Chantilly. Regardless of the weaker opponent, I’ve been saying this is the best offensive team Chantilly has had in a long time and for the first time this year, I am going to list them as a region contender.

Jefferson @ Edison (-14.0)
*Edison won 52-26 for their first win of the year.

Lake Braddock (-10.0) @ West Potomac
*Lake Braddock won 24-21. This was the game I checked out tonight and I liked both teams. West Potomac very well could have won the game, there was a questionable touchdown called back for the Wolverines and the coach opted to forego a tying field goal at the 5 yard line for a failed 4th down conversion. Honestly, while both teams are capable of making a great postseason run, I wasn’t as impressed with Braddock as I thought I would be. They may very well be the third best team in their conference.

Langley @ Madison (-10.0)
*Madison won 14-7.

McLean @ South Lakes (-21.0)
*South Lakes won 42-0.

Oakton (-1.0) @ Robinson
*Robinson with one of the more impressive outings of the night, won 42-17. I am very intrigued by the Robinson-Chantilly game next Friday.

Potomac Falls (-24.0) @ Marshall
*Potomac Falls won 31-13. Had the 24 points nailed, before a late Marshall TD.

South County (-10.0) @ West Springfield
*South County won 42-40. Honestly the Patriot top 4 are so even this year and I have no idea will win the conference. Have yet to see West Springfield, but based solely on the score, I feel comfortable saying South County is the team to beat.

Stone Bridge (-6.0) @ Westfield
*Westfield won 28-7. A dominant defensive effort for Westfield who had no problem stopping Stone Bridge’s running attack. Thompson (Stone Bridge QB) did go out early in this one though. I still feel comfortable sticking with them as my region pick as that defense will always be tough to score on. I miss Scanlon as a receiver though, I know he wants to play QB, but I feel the Bulldogs can slide someone else in at QB and with Scanlon wide, their offense would be more dangerous.

Stuart @ Lee (-7.0)
*Lee wins 14-9.

TC Williams (-20.0) @ Mount Vernon
*TC Williams won 27-6.

Woodson @ Annandale (-8.5)
*Annandale won 48-43.

Wakefield (-7.0) @ Falls Church
*Wakefield won 24-20.

Washington Lee @ Hayfield (-10.0)
*Hayfield won 35-16.

Yorktown (-10.0) @ Fairfax
*Yorktown won 28-7

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Game of the week ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:49PM

West Springfield wins the game if their best cover corner #1 and the starting safety #10 don't get hurt. Hell of an effort from both teams, can't wait to see both teams in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yep maybe ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:03PM

WSpringfield is always almost maybe going to win a big game. Don't care how many are injured, you have to beat your key foes at home. Get it done then pop off.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 26, 2015 12:00AM

Nice rundown again SK2. You've been doing it now for at least 4 years now I think - thanks!

I was actually at the Westfield-Stone Bridge game this week and really, the turning point of the game came on Stone Bridge’s first drive. Westfield’s opening drive of the game ended after a lone first down and Westfield punter #5 Brian Delaney pinned Stone Bridge inside their own 5 yard line with a monster punt. Stone Bridge then drove the length of the field with a mix of short runs and throws (18 plays). It was tough going and Westfield’s defense gave up ground begrudgingly. Stone Bridge’s drive stalled around the Westfield 10 as on a critical 4th down Stone Bridge was stopped and turned it over on downs leaving only 26 seconds remaining in the first quarter.

It was on the 4th down play that Stone Bridge QB #4 Joe Thompson incurred a lower leg injury after a gang tackle and left the game. It looked to be serious and enraged Stone Bridge head coach (and father) Mickey Thompson then drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty (for the second week in a row I hear) which gave Westfield decent field position.

Honestly, the rest of the game was a war in the trenches with both teams struggling to make any yardage. Westfield’s Navy commit linebacker #41 Jack Clancy pretty much took the Westfield team on his back and drug them to the win. Playing both ways, he was a tenacious blocking fullback on offense, caught a pass for a critical first down and scored twice - once on a short TD pass and then on short TD run. Westfield’s defense got fooled on a Stone Bridge counter play and RB #20 Joshua Breece broke loose for a long TD run to tie the game 7-7 just before halftime. But without Thompson in the game Stone Bridge did not have an answer for the Westfield defense as Westfield had an interception, a fumble recovery, three forced punts and stopped Stone Bridge on 4th down two or three times in the second half.

Interestingly, it is my opinion that this looks like the best defensive team Westfield has put on the field in the Kyle Simmons era (fifth season as head coach). Conversely, it is without a doubt the least dynamic offense in his time at Westfield as well. It remains to be seen if the eventual return of some of their starters will kick up their performance a notch. Westfield QB #10 Tyler Scanlon played another steady game – making few mistakes and completing a number of big passes including 3 TD throws to WR #88 Trayquan James and TE #97 Nolan Cockrill (and the one to Clancy). He had 3 or 4 nice passes on the money that were dropped including 2 downfield throws.

Punter/Kicker #5 Brian Delaney was a special teams gem once again – kicking all but one kick-off into the end zone, and hitting a number of deep long hang-time punts - kept SB in long field position most of the game. He clearly has D1 ability on kick-offs and punts right now. But he missed another FG – has he hit any at all this season?



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2015 07:58AM by newgatedenizen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Earlyout ()
Date: September 26, 2015 07:48AM

Game of the week Wrote:
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> West Springfield wins the game if their best cover
> corner #1 and the starting safety #10 don't get
> hurt. Hell of an effort from both teams, can't
> wait to see both teams in the playoffs.

SC dominated the first half and I left - what happened in the second half?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCo Fat Lady ()
Date: September 26, 2015 08:41AM

SC thought the game was over at half like you did and let WS back in the game.

SC turnovers and penalties, and better Spartan play in second half kept WS in the game. South County fumbled away two second-half possessions and threw an interception.

WS QB passed for 338 yards and five touchdowns, completing a double-reverse pass for a 65-yard touchdown on his first attempt and passing for scores while facing second and 27, third and 20 and later fourth and goal from the 10 to put the Spartans a two-point conversion away from tying the game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: September 26, 2015 10:17AM

Here is the current playoff standings for 6A North:

6A North
1. South County (121) 30.25
2. Lake Braddock (119) 29.75
3. West Springfield (105) 26.25
Westfield (105) 26.25
5. Chantilly (100) 25.00
6. South Lakes (99) 24.75
7. Battlefield (123) 24.60
8. West Potomac (98) 24.50
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9. Madison (97) 24.25
10. Oakton (96) 24.00
11. Centreville (94) 23.50
12. Robinson (93) 23.25
13. Hayfield (91) 22.75
Yorktown (91) 22.75
15. T.C. Williams (88) 22.00
16. Annandale (87) 21.75

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17. Herndon (84) 21.00
18. Mount Vernon (83) 20.75
19. Patriot (97) 19.40
20. W.T. Woodson (77) 19.25
21. Fairfax (77) 19.25
22. Osbourn (93) 18.60
23. Washington-Lee (73) 18.25
24. Langley (69) 17.25
25. Osbourn Park (84) 16.80
26. Stonewall Jackson (83) 16.60
27. McLean (64) 16.00

Teams above the first line would host a first round game. Teams below the second line would be outside the playoffs. The only ties in the standings are for third place between West Springfield and Westfield and 13th place between Hayfield and Yorktown. Also Woodson and Fairfax have the identical number of points, but Woodson beat Fairfax head to head.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: closebutnocigar ()
Date: September 26, 2015 04:08PM

Real deal.... Wrote:
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> Muskett gets his teeth knocked out by #55 on the
> second play of the game!! He won't last a quarter
> running the ball like he does against a defense
> like Soco has. The kid is good, but be realistic.
> He's all WS has, and Soco will be ready for him!

Muskett 325 yards passing with 5 TD's. Fact: SoCo defense has given up 116 points in first 4 games thats 29 ppg average. That is not a state (or regional) championship defense.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dominated? ()
Date: September 26, 2015 05:06PM

Over at halftime? It was a one score game with 1 minute left in the 1st half before SC scored with seconds left in the half. Why would you think it was over soco always commits stupid turnovers and penalties. SC defense did not look good throughout the game giving up 5 really long pass TD's and long gains.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Seshwan ()
Date: September 26, 2015 06:43PM

I think he meant SoCo Dominated because Soco had 27 first downs to WS 10, Soco had 319 rushing to less than 100 for WS, WS only converted 2 of 12 3rd down conversions

WS did have success on 5 deep balls before SoCo finally went 2 high safeties. passing game was close to even SOCO 6 TD passes WS 5. Penalties and turnovers was the real story of SoCos 2nd half. Ws only had 6 to SoCos 16 and turnovers WS 0 SoCo 3.

Stats on nfhsnetwork

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bottom Line ()
Date: September 26, 2015 07:02PM

SoCo scored 42 points in the first half and a big fat ZERO in the second half. WS also had turnovers and big plays called back in the second half. After halftime WS absolutely stuffed the one trick pony offense SoCo was running in the first half (Sling the ball on 3rd and a mile to one of their big WRs). SoCo got slapped around for the last two quarters. They will be out in the second round with that leaky ass defense and predictable offense. But hey, what's new with that right?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bottom line is blind ()
Date: September 26, 2015 08:44PM

WS had 0 turnovers SoCo had 10 2nd half penalties and 3 turnovers but still had over 200 yds offense in 2nd half If they played cover 2 would have been a blowout IF is always the sunday morning qb favorite word. No if SoCo did win. Credit to WS SoCo still got the W more importantly made soco haters even more angry and butt hurt. No guarantee who wins it all for now SOCO is at the top of the north !!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 27, 2015 01:33AM

Here's the early predictions for next week. As with every week this season, a lot of intriguing match-ups to keep an eye out for. The 3 best games will be CV-LB, Chantilly-Robinson, WS-SB

Centreville @ Lake Braddock (-7.0)
*I want to pick Centreville so bad here, and a Wildcat upset would not surprise me. That being said, their slow defense has given up 104 points their last two games and Braddock has quite the offense of their own. I’m picking the Bruins but they are also on upset alert.

Edison (-8.0) @ Stuart

Fairfax @ Langley (-14.0)
*I like Langley to get their first win here and I think it will be a pretty comfortable one. The Saxons have played a very good schedule up to this point and they are considerably better than the 0-4 record they have.

Falls Church @ Marshall (-7.0)
*Big game here, if Marshall wins this one, they are in the driver seat to a conference title albeit early. These teams are pretty even and it should make for an entertaining affair.

Thomas Jefferson @ Annandale (-45.0)
*TJ hasn’t been as bad this year at keeping games close, but Annandale has too many playmakers and this game will get ugly fast.

Lee @ Briar Woods (-35.0)

Madison (-6.0) @ Yorktown
*This has the makings of a pretty good game. Yorktown is inconsistent this season but if they bring their A game this should be a close one.

McLean @ Hayfield (-31.0)

Mount Vernon @ Wakefield (-10.0)

Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0)
*This has game of the week written all over it. With Centreville being more down to earth and Westfield’s offense being less prolific than in years past; both these teams have a shot at the Concorde albeit I think it’s still Westfield’s. Both these teams come in with high powered offenses and it will make for a great watch.

South Lakes (-13.0) @ Washington-Lee

Stone Bridge @ West Springfield (-7.0)
*A measuring stick game for the Spartans after a tough loss. If the Patriot is as good as people are saying, the Spartans should win this game.

Tuscarora (-40.0) @ Herndon

West Potomac (-25.0) @ Woodson

Westfield (-14.0) @ Oakton

South County (-21.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: #23 ()
Date: September 27, 2015 04:19PM

Blast from the past: Kendall Anderson (Westfield 2012) has a big day:
http://www.richmond.com/sports/article_3541a4c6-915e-5e66-8af5-8c8f0572c6d8.html

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football ()
Date: September 27, 2015 04:32PM

What happens at west Springfield vs stone bridge?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Seshwan ()
Date: September 27, 2015 05:01PM

West Springfield wins If Stonebridge QB is out then WS wins by 2 TDs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudoun Times ()
Date: September 27, 2015 05:12PM

Stone Bridge's quarterback (coach's kid and already given a scholarship for next year) is out with a fractured ankle.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ouch ()
Date: September 27, 2015 05:25PM

Stone Bridge's quarterback (coach's kid and already given a scholarship for next year) is out with a fractured ankle.

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That's too bad, good luck to him with his recovery, hate to see any of these kids get hurt.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hey Steve ()
Date: September 27, 2015 05:45PM

Broad Run has been one of the biggest stories this year in D5.
Any reason why you aren't handicapping their game this week?
Have you seen them play? Their schedule gets really difficult in the second half of the year. Same with Tuscarora. Have you seen them? What is up with these Loudoun schools (smaller) beating Centreville?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Turnovers? ()
Date: September 27, 2015 05:55PM

Bottom line is blind Wrote:
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> WS had 0 turnovers SoCo had 10 2nd half penalties
> and 3 turnovers but still had over 200 yds offense
> in 2nd half If they played cover 2 would have
> been a blowout IF is always the sunday morning
> qb favorite word. No if SoCo did win. Credit to WS
> SoCo still got the W more importantly made soco
> haters even more angry and butt hurt. No guarantee
> who wins it all for now SOCO is at the top of the
> north !!!!!

Regardless off the yardage soco got in the 2nd half they were out scored 14-0. Are you using penalties and turnovers as excuses? That's why there are 4 quarters in a game. WS still passed for two more TD's against their two high safeties. Hats off to soco for winning but they almost lost it down the stretch to a team that they were way more talented than.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Excuses ()
Date: September 27, 2015 06:00PM

SOCO WON SOCO WON SOCO WON SOCO WON HAHAHAHAHHA GAME SET MATCH

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jimmy Da Greek ()
Date: September 27, 2015 06:14PM

For the first time in more than a few years, I am having trouble seeing any of the local schools win the big one. A lot of talent, a lot of parity, but no truly powerful, outstanding schools. Our talented coaches up here will need to really outsmart the boys from down south, who cheat like it is going out of style!

Gulp - hate to say it, but SoCo might actually win two or three playoff games this year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 27, 2015 07:08PM

Hey Steve Wrote:
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> Broad Run has been one of the biggest stories this
> year in D5.
> Any reason why you aren't handicapping their game
> this week?
> Have you seen them play? Their schedule gets
> really difficult in the second half of the year.
> Same with Tuscarora. Have you seen them? What is
> up with these Loudoun schools (smaller) beating
> Centreville?


Broad Run has a bye week this week. Generally I predict games where Fairfax or Arlington teams are involved; but with all the Loudoun-Fairfax matchups this year I am working on learning my Loudoun football.

I am going to try to make it out to the Tuscarora-Broad Run to conclude the season and have seen video of both teams on Gameday. Loudoun has represented themselves well in the county matchups and no surprise they have great football over there. The Centreville-Lake Braddock game will tell me a lot, as this will be the first time Centreville takes on an elite Fairfax team. Centreville clearly has regressed as would be expected with all they lost, so I'm not sure yet what the Loudoun wins mean.

I will say Westfield, South County, and Lake Braddock seem to be the top tier in Fairfax and the only common match up is Briar Woods who has played Broad Run, Tuscarora, and South County. South County beat them by 19, Tuscarora beat them by 6, and Broad Run by 7. That means little though and I am biased for Fairfax County.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dunno $hit ()
Date: September 27, 2015 07:23PM

Briar Woods is the Best 1-3 team in the state...could beat a lot of Play off bound Teams...With Birmingham out their offense and defense is affected drastically...good to see the Parity amongst LC and FfxC schools...the Loudon wins over Ffx teams are just as legit as the ffx wins over Loudon...Lake Braddock is getting ready for a dose of Reality also...C-ville will get a few more big time wins...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GDJE ()
Date: September 27, 2015 08:32PM

I know Woodson sucks, but I think their sophomore QB will be one of the best before he graduates.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knute Rockne ()
Date: September 27, 2015 09:03PM

GDJE Wrote:
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> I know Woodson sucks, but I think their sophomore
> QB will be one of the best before he graduates.

I think the boy is a junior. I saw him as a youth football player and thought he was talented. I don't know if he got the coaching he needed...not sure who Woodson has as QB coach now, but the boy could really be good if he had a good coach. NO offense at all to Woodson parents, but there isn't a lot of talent there at wideout, but they are sure getting the most out of what they have to make them competitive with the second tier programs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nostradumbass ()
Date: September 27, 2015 10:07PM

Thank you, Coach Dougherty.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCo ()
Date: September 28, 2015 09:32AM

Turnovers? Wrote:
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> Bottom line is blind Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WS had 0 turnovers SoCo had 10 2nd half
> penalties
> > and 3 turnovers but still had over 200 yds
> offense
> > in 2nd half If they played cover 2 would have
> > been a blowout IF is always the sunday
> morning
> > qb favorite word. No if SoCo did win. Credit to
> WS
> > SoCo still got the W more importantly made soco
> > haters even more angry and butt hurt. No
> guarantee
> > who wins it all for now SOCO is at the top of
> the
> > north !!!!!
>
> Regardless off the yardage soco got in the 2nd
> half they were out scored 14-0. Are you using
> penalties and turnovers as excuses? That's why
> there are 4 quarters in a game. WS still passed
> for two more TD's against their two high safeties.
> Hats off to soco for winning but they almost lost
> it down the stretch to a team that they were way
> more talented than.

Soco 4-0
WS 3-1!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton Fan ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:05AM

What happened to Oakton against Robinson? After the first few games I thought Oakton was much improved over last season. Now I'm wondering if we are not as good as I thought or is Robinson that good? They already have two loses so I'm leaning towards us having another 5-5 season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Too Bad So Sad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:25AM

The old days of Oakton Football with the likes of Grimm, Payne, Coyer, Watts and Tyler are all but gone for Oakton.

They had a good run, but redistricting has killed them in football especially.

Coaches Rowley and Co do the best they can, and I still believe that they have one of the best coach staffs in the area. But you can only do so much without more talent.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: September 28, 2015 12:54PM

Oakton coaches always do so well with what they have. Very well respected. Tough schedule too with Cville, WF, Chan, Broad Run coming over the next four weeks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: best staff ()
Date: September 28, 2015 01:33PM

pretty good debate question... who does have the best coaching staff in the region? Lake Braddock? Westfield? Centreville? West Springfield? Soco?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF Easy ()
Date: September 28, 2015 02:11PM

I don't even know how this is a question. You look at the typical athlete that Westfield has and then look at the track record of success they have and it really shouldn't be too much of a debate. Yes they do have a pretty sizable school population compared to a lot of other NR schools but the average football player is relatively un-athletic comparitively speaking.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF chokies ()
Date: September 28, 2015 02:49PM

Westfield coaching staff - take me close to the prize and then teach me how to choke when it really counts. Sounds like "good" coaching to me baby.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF chokies ()
Date: September 28, 2015 02:50PM

And this bullshit about Westfield having no athletes is just that a bunch of bullshit.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: September 28, 2015 03:00PM

WF has probably one of the best defensive coaches around the area, their DC. Offense though, not a chance. Just look how vanilla their offense has been over the past few years.

Also, the decision to only have players go one way when every other school has a couple of their best guys play both sides of the ball. It is a big school with I'm sure plenty of athletes but so are many other schools in the area. They still find a way to get a couple of the top guys on the field for O & D!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You're Bullshit ()
Date: September 28, 2015 03:58PM

How is that bull-shit???? Anybody who's watched them play can easily see they do not have nearly as many pure athletes as some other NR schools but what they do have is numbers. They can run on and off 7-10 different defensive lineman and not have a drop off in performance where at other schools that don't have the luxury of a large student population that is not the case. Often, at these smaller D-6 schools, their 1st teamers are pretty good but after that it's anyone's call as to the performance you'll get. If I had to choose which school I could coach at it, it would definitely be Westfield just because they have such a large pool of players to choose from and build depth with.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield chokies ()
Date: September 28, 2015 04:04PM

Just win when it counts Westfield and stop all the rationalizations. Oh if we did not dixie cup before the season, oh if we had athletes (that is a slap in the face to all the quality athletes I have seen come out of Westfield), oh it is ok because we are consistent etc etc Fact of the matter is Westfield has not won a real big game since 2007 state championship. No amount of rationalization can change that....go out and win the big game and stop making excuses.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 04:20PM

Westfield chokies Wrote:
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> Fact of the matter is Westfield has not won a real big game
> since 2007 state championship.

Rubbish. I would say coming from behind in the 4th quarter on the road in the regional semi-finals two years ago against a 12-0 Lake Braddock team led by a D1 QB counts as a big win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: rationalizer ()
Date: September 28, 2015 04:51PM

Sorry Rydell Road, then they lost again in the NR finals like always. I almost got close to see the pope last week, does not make me holy.

And by the way Caleb Henderson is the epitome of choke artist. All talk during the season and zippo to show for it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true that ()
Date: September 28, 2015 04:58PM

yep it is time to call out the Westfield apologists.....any dixie cupping this past weekend?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 05:03PM

rationalizer Wrote:
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> Sorry Rydell Road, then they lost again in the NR
> finals like always.

Thanks for pointing that out - I was unaware. No one ever mentioned that before.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true that ()
Date: September 28, 2015 05:07PM

Wow I just thought about what the previous poster said. It is true that Westfield has not really won the BIG GAME since way back in 2007. Pushing ten years....BUFFALO BILLS BUFFALO BILLS BUFFALO BILLS BUFFALO BILLS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 05:07PM

Westfield doesn’t have that big of an enrollment advantage over a lot of Fairfax County 6A schools - the rezoning of 2009 reduced them by 500 almost immediately. Last year’s enrollments:

Robinson 2790
Chantilly 2692 (-98)
Westfield 2682 (-108)
Lake Braddock 2660 (-130)
Fairfax 2573 (-217)
West Potomac 2464 (-326)
Centreville 2436 (-354)
South Lakes 2378 (-412)
Woodson 2359 (-431)
Herndon 2267 (-523)
Oakton 2267 (-523)
West Springfield 2247 (-543)
South County 2114 (-676)
Annandale 2162 (-628)
Madison 2059 (-731)
McLean 2050 (-740)
Langley 1996 (-795)
Hayfield 1992 (-798)
Mount Vernon 1965 (-825)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BULL DAWGS ()
Date: September 28, 2015 05:30PM

just screw all of you who say that Westfield are a bunch of chokers....better than any other team out there over the years

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true that ()
Date: September 28, 2015 05:32PM

touchy much?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: September 28, 2015 06:40PM

Wonder if there is a list of numbers for male student athletes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 07:15PM

nufan Wrote:
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> Wonder if there is a list of numbers for male
> student athletes.

You can look it up on FCPS website but virtually all fall in the 47%-53% male. I don't recall seeing any outside of that range.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 10:04PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Westfield doesn’t have that big of an enrollment
> advantage over a lot of Fairfax County 6A schools
> - the rezoning of 2009 reduced them by 500 almost
> immediately.


True on current enrollments, at this point Westfield has 1000 fewer kids than at its peak. However, redistricting only affected half of Floris or about 250 kids. Around 3/4 of the drop had nothing to do with redistricting. By then, Westfield was already getting smaller due to the aging of Virginia Run and the part of Floris that remained in Westfield.



Last year’s enrollments:
>
> Robinson 2790
> Chantilly 2692 (-98)
> Westfield 2682 (-108)
> Lake Braddock 2660 (-130)
> Fairfax 2573 (-217)
> West Potomac 2464 (-326)
> Centreville 2436 (-354)
> South Lakes 2378 (-412)
> Woodson 2359 (-431)
> Herndon 2267 (-523)
> Oakton 2267 (-523)
> West Springfield 2247 (-543)
> South County 2114 (-676)
> Annandale 2162 (-628)
> Madison 2059 (-731)
> McLean 2050 (-740)
> Langley 1996 (-795)
> Hayfield 1992 (-798)
> Mount Vernon 1965 (-825)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:04PM

There are many great coaching staffs to consider in the region. While the Westfields, Centrevilles, and Lake Braddocks of the world all have good coaching, they also have a few distinct advantages. One being the obvious, high enrollment leading to many more athletes, and two being they have great youth feeder programs where they are getting lots of kids who have played football for years before they even enter the school. That makes a big difference.

To the people above saying Westfield does not have good athletes, are you kidding? Yes, this year, there is less big play players for them, but the region is down so they can get by and will have success. Not one school in Fairfax has had more athletes the past decade or so than Westfield; yes Centreville had the best collection the past couple years and South County has more athletes this year, but every year Westfield is loaded with talent.

I've got a lot of flack over the years for supporting the job Coach Taylor does, but I think he deserves a lot of credit for growing South Lakes' program back up. He expects a lot out of his players, but when they stick to it, the program rises. I also love the job Coach Rowley does at Oakton, that run to states a couple years ago with what he had impressed the hell out of me. They consistently over achieve for what they have.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 28, 2015 11:08PM

WestfieldDad Wrote:

> Westfield has 1000 fewer kids than at its peak.
> However, redistricting only affected half of
> Floris or about 250 kids.

1000? Westfield was between 3200-3300 in 2007 at their max.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coaches ()
Date: September 29, 2015 08:45AM

There are a lot of solid staffs in the NR, but there are also a number of choke artists when it comes to championship caliber games.

While WF has a staff full of head coaches, both past and present, they do underachieve unless they have future NFL player on their roster. Enrollment doesn't really matter when it comes to success, 3000 kids is nice, but if 2950 of them are awful it doesn't really help your program.

Schools like LB, WF, and CV have quality athletes, but aren't always dominate when it counts, so coaching has to be the only other option to blame if you ask me (look at CV this year.)

Schools that don't get a ton of respect like Soco, WS, and come concord teams are constantly competing and no one realizes that because they are so focused on the top teams in the area. Soco is a contender, their resume thus far is pretty impressive if you ask me.

Cheers to Coach Pannoni and his staff for bringing an average Soco program to the respected team they are today. Quality kids who are strong and compete every week. That is a program worth mentioning if you ask me!! Also, Coach Eldredge and WS's staff for taking a once proud program back to a respected program who continues to compete every year.

It's time to jump off of the WF and CV train and start respecting these other teams, they deserve the and have earned everyone's respect! I'm still a believer in if Soco can figure out their defensive problems, they are going to be the team this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yep right ()
Date: September 29, 2015 08:56AM

What kind of pot are you smoking once S. County wins some NR championships and state championships like Cville and Westfield then you can pop off. By the way Pannoni almost single-handedly killed the Cville program back in the day

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yo Stupid ()
Date: September 29, 2015 09:17AM

Taking over an established winner is not great coaching. In the history of WF they have won two regions. Haddock has won 3 of the last 4....he had talent but he won! Now he has to really coach. Still, he took over from Pannoni/Skinner which is the crew that won the 1st title. Oak staff took over from a winner.
Crappy programs that emerged, LB, CHan, Both in multiple region games yearly. Riddle destroyed both of these. 2 programs rising from the ashes WS, maybe Robinson and WP.
Let's see what the WF staff would do at Fairfax. Send Haddock back and he is just another name. Send Rowley to Annandale. Get the point

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Don't smoke ()
Date: September 29, 2015 10:10AM

Yep right Wrote:
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> What kind of pot are you smoking once S. County
> wins some NR championships and state championships
> like Cville and Westfield then you can pop off.
> By the way Pannoni almost single-handedly killed
> the Cville program back in the day

I'm sure is you ask players like Manny Smith, Ken, Chase Walter and other CV players that Pannoni played as freshman if he ruined it, you would hear otherwise. Most would think those were rebuilding years that laid the foundation for a average coach like Haddock to come in and show off.

Now that the CV all-star teams has moved on, we are really seeing the ability of Haddock and his staff. Let's see who's more successful now that the foundation team Pannoni built at CV has left, as opposed to the program he's building at Soco. Imagine if CV would of had patience with Pannoni, and gave him the opportunity to build a program and not a three year winner. That is the pot I'm smoking, it's called reality weed!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: smoking Pannoni ()
Date: September 29, 2015 10:32AM

Looks like you have been smoking something else. Until Baloney fixes the Defense and stops his onside kicks giving teams field position at 50 yard line almost every time SOCO will continue to be what it is - a wannabe poser. People can rag on WField and Cville all they want but they have done it with multiple state championships. SOCO, LB, Springfield have not. Simple fact suckas.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: they deserve credit ()
Date: September 29, 2015 11:07AM

coach eldridge coach pannoni and coach poythress are some of the best coaches in the area.. they are consistently contenders w/o the 2700+ kids that some of the concorde teams have. Soco was a d5 team just 3 years ago and they are over achieving if you ask me. Their OC is one of the best in the states as they are consistently one of the highest scoring teams in the state. Eldridge turned that WS program around as it was heading downhill with biddison, ppl questioned the move from bball to fball but it has worked out. Poythress is always a contender at LB year after year.. give credit where credit is due. Haddock is overrated and rowley at oakton is underated.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: credit comes ()
Date: September 29, 2015 01:12PM

Credit comes when you actually win something big

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Seshwan ()
Date: September 29, 2015 01:39PM

I think even Muran could coach and win with the talent Centerville had the last 2 years.Walter, AJ Turner, Justin S the giant OLman that is starting at Vandy as a freshman right now, Wiggins, Boose, Tutt,Love ETC several other better than average players. Now they are gone if LB beats Centerville this week that will be 3 straight losses and the coach now looks like he may be a little over rated. Westfield will also probably beat Centerville. In reality the coach is probably pretty good but to win you also need a few really good players that play as a team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach observer ()
Date: September 29, 2015 02:01PM

Haddock is an offensive coach. He had two returning offensive starters. He has the offense playing pretty well. Averaging about 30 Points a game, if they had not suffered through a bad turn over issue early this season that avg would be closer to 40 pts a game.

The defense is another story. Let's see if the coaches on that side of the ball can fix the problem. At the end of the day Head Coach has to have the last say and its clear they need help on defense.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: championships boy ()
Date: September 29, 2015 04:26PM

championships rule all the rest is static

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Richard Rank Em ()
Date: September 29, 2015 07:24PM

VHSL power points out...

D6 1 South County 2 Braddock 3 West Springfield 4 Westfield 5 Chantilly 6 South

Lakes 7 Battlefield 8 Madison 9 Oakton 10 Centreville 11 Robinson 12 Hayfield


D5 1 Massaponex 2 Mountain View 3 Broad Run 4 Tuscarora 14 Marshall


Yes, Marshall is currently the 14 seed. Broad Run - we are going to kick your country asses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dick Rank ()
Date: September 29, 2015 07:37PM

Dick stankem, stick to the back door, Broad Run wins by 35 if they keep their starters in until half....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stark... Ned ()
Date: September 29, 2015 10:25PM

Who has Broad Run played? No one! We have quality wins over McLean and Edison - both by double digits! We are going to smack up whatever team they put in front of us in the 1st round this year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LOLZ ()
Date: September 29, 2015 10:55PM

Broad Run beat Potomac Falls by 21 ( Potomac Fa;;s' only loss!)
They beat Wakefield and Langley, by 34 AND 24 respectively.
Then they hammered Centreville by 35 before beating Briar Woods in a rivalry game.

Didn't you just get smacked down by Potomac Falls?

Silly Statesmen, tricks are for kids!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 29, 2015 11:03PM

Richard Rank Em Wrote:
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> VHSL power points out...
>
> D6 1 South County 2 Braddock 3 West Springfield 4
> Westfield 5 Chantilly 6 South
>
> Lakes 7 Battlefield 8 Madison 9 Oakton 10
> Centreville 11 Robinson 12 Hayfield
>
>
> D5 1 Massaponex 2 Mountain View 3 Broad Run
> 4 Tuscarora 14 Marshall
>
>
> Yes, Marshall is currently the 14 seed. Broad Run
> - we are going to kick your country
> asses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess again. TThese are the rankings/powerpoints

South County 6A 6A North District 7 4 0 0 1 0 0 30.25000
Lake Braddock 6A 6A North District 7 4 0 0 2 0 0 29.75000
West Springfield 6A 6A North District 7 3 1 0 1 1 0 26.25000
Westfield 6A 6A North District 5 3 1 0 0 0 0 26.25000
Chantilly 6A 6A North District 5 3 1 0 1 0 0 25.00000
South Lakes 6A 6A North District 6 3 1 0 2 0 0 24.75000
Battlefield 6A 6A North Cardinal 3 2 0 3 0 0 24.60000
West Potomac 6A 6A North District 7 3 1 0 0 1 0 24.50000
Madison, James 6A 6A North District 6 3 1 0 2 0 0 24.25000
Oakton 6A 6A North District 5 2 2 0 0 1 0 24.00000
Centreville 6A 6A North District 5 2 2 0 0 0 0 23.50000
Robinson, James 6A 6A North District 5 2 2 0 1 0 0 23.25000
Hayfield 6A 6A North District 6 2 2 0 1 0 0 22.75000
Yorktown 6A 6A North District 6 2 2 0 1 1 0 22.25000
Williams, T.C. 6A 6A North District 7 2 2 0 1 0 0 22.00000
Annandale 6A 6A North District 7 2 2 0 1 1 0 21.75000

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: We Are Marshall! ()
Date: September 29, 2015 11:08PM

I was talking about D5 power points!!!!!!!!


.. So was the guy who posted Marshall currently being in a playoff slot in D5.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 29, 2015 11:50PM

The point is, what you posted for D6 was wrong. there is no confidence that you got it right on D5 either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Excuses ()
Date: September 30, 2015 09:26AM

Coach observer Wrote:
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> Haddock is an offensive coach. He had two
> returning offensive starters. He has the offense
> playing pretty well. Averaging about 30 Points a
> game, if they had not suffered through a bad turn
> over issue early this season that avg would be
> closer to 40 pts a game.
>
> The defense is another story. Let's see if the
> coaches on that side of the ball can fix the
> problem. At the end of the day Head Coach has to
> have the last say and its clear they need help on
> defense.

Stop making excuses and build some depth!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: September 30, 2015 09:28AM

I'm sure Muran has some great insight on the above topics regarding coaching in the NR...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog23 ()
Date: September 30, 2015 10:14AM

Any chance storm cancels games Friday?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 30, 2015 11:01AM

Bulldog23 Wrote:
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> Any chance storm cancels games Friday?

Only if there's lightning.

Some of the grass fields out in Loudon may postpone, but turf in Fairfax will be good to go as long as there's no lightning.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran Back ()
Date: September 30, 2015 11:14AM

Muran back round eyes,

Risten Muran, hokay? Rook, best coach make remonade of remons den serve to same people say you suck. Round eye say "who this best coach Muran?" Muran say prayoff will tell who round eye, prayoff will tell. This Haddock, he man with mark on foe-head? He nice guy i guess but no win as goo with-out Ayyy-jay turner no? Mayyyyyy-be he turn tings around mayyyy-be no, we will see round eyes.

Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who and the hell ()
Date: September 30, 2015 12:16PM

Muran Back Wrote:
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> Muran back round eyes,
>
> Risten Muran, hokay? Rook, best coach make
> remonade of remons den serve to same people say
> you suck. Round eye say "who this best coach
> Muran?" Muran say prayoff will tell who round eye,
> prayoff will tell. This Haddock, he man with mark
> on foe-head? He nice guy i guess but no win as goo
> with-out Ayyy-jay turner no? Mayyyyyy-be he turn
> tings around mayyyy-be no, we will see round eyes.
>
>
> Muran


Who and they hell is this guy?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: muran da man ()
Date: September 30, 2015 12:28PM

He Muran an he speak troof to powah bitches.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: STORM ()
Date: September 30, 2015 01:39PM

Heard that the SOCO/TC Williams game getting moved from Saturday at 3 pm (@ TC) to tomorrow night at SOCO/

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 30, 2015 01:47PM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> Bulldog23 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Any chance storm cancels games Friday?
>
> Only if there's lightning.
>
> Some of the grass fields out in Loudon may
> postpone, but turf in Fairfax will be good to go
> as long as there's no lightning.


Some PWC games are being moved to Thursday, according the the AllMets twitter feed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Why not just push the games back ()
Date: September 30, 2015 01:58PM

I know we are all tough guys (and gals), but if the weather is brutal, better for most folks if they just push them off a few days. Not easy for sure, but a foot of rain is not good

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 30, 2015 02:17PM

Why not just push the games back Wrote:
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> I know we are all tough guys (and gals), but if
> the weather is brutal, better for most folks if
> they just push them off a few days. Not easy for
> sure, but a foot of rain is not good


Multiple games within a week is not good for players, either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nice try ()
Date: September 30, 2015 02:21PM

STORM Wrote:
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> Heard that the SOCO/TC Williams game getting moved
> from Saturday at 3 pm (@ TC) to tomorrow night at
> SOCO/

nice try, Coach Pannini. Don't think it's going to happen, though.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rain-X ()
Date: September 30, 2015 05:03PM

Coach Baloney Sandwich at SOCO no like Rain falling on his Bald Head, a foot of rain turns this game into a swim meet we all know football Athletes can't Swim. Baloney sandwich trying to move game to Superdome.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mulan ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:25PM

Mulan was a Chinese woman that dressed and acted like a man according to Disney

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Is it me.... ()
Date: September 30, 2015 07:32PM

or do we have a lack of big time Division One talent in the area this year?

Who are some of the top kids on the top teams, and do we know if anyone has big time offers.

You know, kids like Jonathan Allen from Stone Bridge (All-SEC last year) and DeShawn Hand from Woodbridge?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudoun Teacher ()
Date: September 30, 2015 08:13PM

Best lineman at Stone Bridge has a ride to Old Dominion. Stone Bridge QB to UNC-Charlotte
Woodgrove's best lineman is going to Bryant (?) on a ride.
Tuscarora's QB just had his offer pulled from Richmond. Not sure why.
Broad Run's best lineman, their quarterback, and their running back are all juniors, although QB has a 1/2 scholarship to Maryland for LAX.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MwY7D ()
Date: September 30, 2015 09:00PM

Soco @ TC moved to Friday at 4:00

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bring Back AAA/AA/A ()
Date: October 01, 2015 10:57AM

I've never really cared enough to look, but I just checked the overall Win/Loss record for the better NR teams since 2000 which shows just how dominant Westfield has been.

Westfield: 149-36 (2 State Titles)
Centreville: 128-52 (2 State Titles)
Robinson: 127-51 (1 State Title)
Oakton: 115-61 (1 State Title)
Lake Braddock: 108-64 (0 State Titles)

To be fair, Stone Bridge has a record of 164-33 during that time which is outstanding.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CHARGERS-R-BACK ()
Date: October 01, 2015 11:54AM

Chantilly 94-76 (0 State Titles) was pretty good over that period of time - state runner up in 2006.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 01, 2015 12:06PM

Speaking of Westfield - the Westfield @ Oakton game has been re-scheduled for TONIGHT - Thursday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 01, 2015 12:41PM

SoCo TC moved to tonight @7 @ soco

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Win when it counts ()
Date: October 01, 2015 01:29PM

All those wins and only 2 trips to States. Cville has 4 trips in the same time period.

Judging a school by its athletes and coaching staff. In this time period most Westfield sports have been consistently good. Basketball state runner-up last year girls win field hockey and lacrosse pretty consistently. Westfield football not really any better then other Westfield sports.

Cville football has been consistently good, while other sport teams have been awful to just OK. Girls some success, but not nearly as much as Westfield over the years. On balance, Westfield coaching staff has not over-performed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: consistency ()
Date: October 01, 2015 04:02PM

Win when it counts Wrote:
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> Cville football has been consistently good

Almost.

2006 6-4 no playoffs
2008 1-9 no playoffs
2009 3-7 no playoffs

Westfield football has made the playoffs 13 consecutive years. That is the longest current streak in Virginia 6A (North or South). That’s consistency.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Titles matter more ()
Date: October 01, 2015 06:16PM

4 northern region titles to 2. I'll take the titles over consistently also ran performance any day.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thursday Night Lights ()
Date: October 01, 2015 09:39PM

Hey, post your scores if you've got them.

Braddock 33 Centreville 7

Tuscarora 70 Herndon 28

Briar Woods 42 Lee 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Disappointed Cougar ()
Date: October 01, 2015 09:50PM

Oakton just got embarrassed by Westfield. Defense played well at times, offense was downright awful, looking a lot like last season...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hut7T ()
Date: October 01, 2015 09:54PM

Final

South County 42
TC Williams 2

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lipstick on a pig ()
Date: October 01, 2015 10:04PM

We'll she wasn't pretty, actually ugly at times not that often Westfields has 5 passing TD's 38 to 7 over Oakton.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stat man ()
Date: October 01, 2015 11:38PM

At LB game...haddock crying all night. Braddock up 33-0 and goes for 2 to get running clock. haddock screaming across field " that is classless Jim". said it ten times on a bullhorn. there were 9 plus minutes to go.

after game Haddock said something to Poythress then walked thru rest of LB staff saying going for two was classless. 9 minutes left!!! Doesn't Haddock remember killing people. one thing about Poythress is that you will never hear him cry. That after 9 seasons on sideline.

Tell Haddock he was a great coach with talent. Now he actually has to coach. Time to Stop crying and coach Bro!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smoked ()
Date: October 02, 2015 12:10AM

SB smoked WS. Looked like the Soco game had a hang over effect and the short week made it exponentially worse. Had a few key players not dressed tonight from the SC game and they are not deep enough to combat that. SB looked like they were playing a JV team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Kanye2020 ()
Date: October 02, 2015 12:26AM

Final

Robinson 24
Chantilly 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 02, 2015 07:50AM

Haddock was pissed at his players. Making all kinds of mistakes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hakkock's birth mark ()
Date: October 02, 2015 08:20AM

nufan Wrote:
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> Haddock was pissed at his players. Making all
> kinds of mistakes.


He's got them out there till 7:00 doing sprints and up-downs all week. He's just doesn't have the players this year. He can't coach them up more than he has. They just aren't that a good of a team this year. Taking it out on the kids every afternoon isn't gonna help. Might make him feel better though.


 
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2015 09:55AM

Looks like the top 4 teams in 6A North are shaking out to be: South County, Lake Braddock, Westfield, Robinson. Probably in that order. But we shall see. Thought I would see more out of Oakton’s offense but they were totally shut down by the Westfield defense. Oakton’s defense looked pretty good until they fell apart in the second half.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rocky Road ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:27AM

What is that? that My Friends is Direct Lineage To Gorbachev. Also known as a wine stain Birth Mark the finest Communist Leaders all have them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No FENSE ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:33AM

Lets not give Oakton's Defense to much Credit. Westfield's Offense/play calling was atrocious in the First Half. How many times does one team need to Run up the middle for a net of -30 yards before they conclude they have NO Running Game. It went something like this. Run, lose 3. Pass, gain 8, Run, lose 2, snap ball over punters head, net 20 on punt. repeat 5 times to conclude first half. Second half, Pass TD, Pass TD, Pass TD, Pass TD. Put in back-ups Run 0 Gain, Run 0 Gain, Run 0 gain..Punt Stuff Oakton Offense Repeat with back ups.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2015 12:29PM

No FENSE Wrote:
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> Lets not give Oakton's Defense to much Credit.
> Westfield's Offense/play calling was atrocious in
> the First Half.

They figured it out eventually. I don't agree that that the play calling was atrocious but it did lean a little heavy to the run side when it was obvious that it wasn't working. But not giving up on the run certainly helped keep Oakton defense honest. I know it's hard to believe but they did get over 100 yards on the ground - #31 had a couple decent runs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conference7doubter ()
Date: October 02, 2015 02:16PM

Smoked Wrote:
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> SB smoked WS. Looked like the Soco game had a hang
> over effect and the short week made it
> exponentially worse. Had a few key players not
> dressed tonight from the SC game and they are not
> deep enough to combat that. SB looked like they
> were playing a JV team.

What does this say about the Patriot District? Who played QB for SB and how did he do? Nice rebound after the Westfield smackdown. What happened to Muskett?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smoked ()
Date: October 02, 2015 02:35PM

conference7doubter Wrote:
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> Smoked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SB smoked WS. Looked like the Soco game had a
> hang
> > over effect and the short week made it
> > exponentially worse. Had a few key players not
> > dressed tonight from the SC game and they are
> not
> > deep enough to combat that. SB looked like they
> > were playing a JV team.
>
> What does this say about the Patriot District?
> Who played QB for SB and how did he do? Nice
> rebound after the Westfield smackdown. What
> happened to Muskett?

What it says is the WS, LB and SC are undefeated against the Concorde with wins over Robinson twice, centreville and WF. WS also handled oaktons one's in the scrimmage

WS qb has had a sprained ankle since his game winning run against Robinson in week 1. The fact he's playing is remarkable.

It says WS doesn't have much depth but when they are at full strength they can beat anyone.

Kudos to SB. They look very physical. I think they went with their RB at qb. Styles make fights

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conference7doubter ()
Date: October 02, 2015 03:11PM

Smoked Wrote:
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> What it says is the WS, LB and SC are undefeated
> against the Concorde with wins over Robinson
> twice, centreville and WF. WS also handled oaktons
> one's in the scrimmage

Touché. Ouch. Didn't noodle that through. So LB and SoCo will meet in the last week at 9-0 each. That should be a good game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smoked ()
Date: October 02, 2015 03:32PM

Yea SC v LB should be a good game. LB wins though. SC is just terrible on defense. They have talent but do not play sound football. I wouldn't count out WS v LB. Both games last year were decided by 2 points and winning at the end of regulation.

Good thing about football is every time you step on the field you have a chance to prove yourself. Lots of football left. However WF defense may be able to bring home the regional championship

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 02, 2015 05:05PM

not impressed with lake braddock until they beat a big name this year. cville about handed the game to them..YES THEY WON 33-7 BUT CVILLE LEFT POINTS OUT THERE, AT LEAST 14 AND MAYBE ANOTHER SCORE.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: disappointed Cougar ()
Date: October 02, 2015 05:25PM

Oakton laid an egg last night against Westfield. Plain and simple. This is NOT an elite Westfield team. They were beatable. The game was 0-0 until 25 seconds left in the 2nd quarter. The wheels came off for Oakton in the second half.

The D played better than the score indicated. WF had some short fields in the second half thanks to turnovers, and thanks to the Oakton offensive play calling, the D was on the field the entire second half.

Very discouraging. Thanks to their schedule, Oakton may very well end up 4-6 this year. Bad.

On another note, Jack Clancy was on crutches at the end of the game. Did not see what happened, as he seemed to play every down while he was in and I did not see him get injured. Anyone know what happened?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Crutches ()
Date: October 02, 2015 06:33PM

Clancy took a helmet to the Knee on a swing pass. Not the first time this safety has attacked opponents Knees.

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CONFERENCE 7 @ HALF-WAY POINT
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 02, 2015 07:46PM

CONFERENCE 7 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

South County (5-0, 2-0)
W, Briar Woods, 47-28
W, Westfield, 26-19
W, Hayfield, 70-29
W, West Springfield, 42-40
W, TC Williams, 42-2
WT Woodson, Mount Vernon, Annandale, West Potomac, Lake Braddock

Lake Braddock (5-0, 2-0)
W, Lee, 69-0
W, Annandale, 40-0
W, Robinson, 21-14
W, West Potomac, 24-21
W, Centreville, 33-7
TC Williams, WT Woodson, West Springfield, Mount Vernon, South County

West Potomac (4-1, 1-1)
W, Langley, 41-28
W, Edison, 66-13
W, Briar Woods, 29-27
L, Lake Braddock, 21-24
W, WT Woodson, 45-26
West Springfield, Annandale, TC Williams, South County, Mount Vernon

West Springfield (3-2, 1-1)
W, Robinson, 35-28
W, Mount Vernon, 47-13
W, Lee, 34-7
L, South County, 40-42
L, Stone Bridge, 10-41
West Potomac, TC Williams, Lake Braddock, WT Woodson, Annandale

Annandale (3-2, 1-1)
L, Centreville, 17-27
L, Lake Braddock, 0-40
W, Stuart, 37-17
W, WT Woodson, 48-43
W, Thomas Jefferson, 42-0
Mount Vernon, West Potomac, South County, TC Williams, West Springfield

TC Williams (2-3, 1-1)
W, Thomas Jefferson, 65-0
L, Oakton, 0-24
L, Westfield, 6-21
W, Mount Vernon, 27-6
L, South County, 2-42
Lake Braddock, West Springfield, West Potomac, Annandale, WT Woodson

Mount Vernon (2-3, 0-2)
W, Stuart, 39-16
L, West Springfield, 13-47
W, Thomas Jefferson, 40-18
L, TC Williams, 6-27
L, Wakefield, 0-45
Annandale, South County, WT Woodson, Lake Braddock, West Potomac

WT Woodson (1-4, 0-2)
L, Chantilly, 14-31
L, Robinson, 0-56
W, Fairfax, 36-25
L, Annandale, 43-48
L, West Potomac, 26-45
South County, Lake Braddock, Mount Vernon, West Springfield, TC Williams

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Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 02, 2015 07:54PM

CONFERENCE 5 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

Westfield (4-1, 1-0)
W, Washington-Lee, 30-10
L, South County, 19-26
W, T.C. Williams, 21-6
W, Stone Bridge, 28-7
W, Oakton, 38-7
Briar Woods, Robinson, Centreville, Herndon, Chantilly

Robinson (3-2, 2-0)
L, West Springfield, 28-35
W, W.T. Woodson, 56-0
L, Lake Braddock, 14-21
W, Oakton, 42-17
W, Chantilly, 24-14
Stone Bridge, Westfield, Herndon, Broad Run, Centreville

Chantilly (3-2, 1-1)
W, W.T. Woodson, 31-14
W, R.E. Lee, 49-7
L, Stone Bridge, 28-42
W, Herndon, 69-31
L, Robinson, 14-24
McLean, Oakton, Briar Woods, Centreville, Westfield

Centreville (2-3, 0-0)
W, Annandale, 27-17
W, Fairfax, 28-6
L, Broad Run, 21-56
L, Tuscarora, 49-42
L, Lake Braddock, 7-33
Oakton, Herndon, Westfield, Chantilly, Robinson

Oakton (2-3, 0-2)
W, Madison, 31-25
W, T.C. Williams, 24-0
L, Tuscarora, 14-28
L, Robinson, 17-42
L, Westfield, 7-38
Centreville, Chantilly, Broad Run, Falls Church, Herndon

Herndon (2-3, 0-1)
L, Fairfax, 0-22
W, J.E.B. Stuart, 30-13
W, Falls Church, 28-14
L, Chantilly, 31-69
L, Tuscarora, 28-70
South Lakes, Centreville, Robinson, Westfield, Oakton

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You Joking ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:13PM

You have to be kidding, I know the Centerville Coach did not embarrass himself screaming across the field with a bull horn about LB strategy to go for 2 and get a running clock. You play to win the game. going for a 35 point lead is not classless at all in fact exactly what a team should do. Not so good without the good OC and DC and 6 D-1 kids. Actually not bad coaching you just don't have the talent this year and people thought they could win just on the name. I see a 5-5 finish and possibly a 4-6 record.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 6 ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:41PM

Madison 47
Yorktown 21

SL 28
W&L 2

Big Conf 6 game coming up between SL and Madison on Oct 9.

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CONFERENCE 6 @ HALF-WAY POINT
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 02, 2015 10:57PM

CONFERENCE 6 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

Madison (4-1, 3-0)
L, Oakton, 25-31
W, Stone Bridge, 35-24
W, McLean 30-0
W, Langley, 14-7
W, Yorktown, 47-21
Marshall, South Lakes, Fairfax, Washington-Lee, Hayfield

South Lakes (4-1, 3-0)
W, Marshall, 52-8
L, Briar Woods, 20-24
W, Yorktown, 25-14
W, McLean, 42-0
W, Washington-Lee, 28-2
Herndon, Madison, Langley, Hayfield, Fairfax

Hayfield (3-2, 2-0)
W, Edison, 21-0
L, Tuscarora, 14-40
L, South County, 29-70
W, Washington-Lee, 35-16
W, McLean, 43-28
Fairfax, Langley, Yorktown, South Lakes, Madison

Langley (1-4, 1-1)
L, West Potomac, 28-41
L, Broad Run, 21-45
L, Potomac Falls, 6-26
L, Madison, 7-14
W, Fairfax, 36-0
Washington-Lee, Hayfield, South Lakes, Yorktown, McLean

Yorktown (2-3, 1-2)
L, Woodrow Wilson, 22-51
W, Wakefield, 24-7
L, South Lakes, 14-25
W, Fairfax, 28-7
L, Madison, 21-47
Broad Run, McLean, Hayfield, Langley, Washington-Lee

Fairfax (1-4, 0-2)
W, Herndon, 22-0
L, Centreville, 6-28
L, WT Woodson, 25-36
L, Yorktown, 7-28
L, Langley, 0-36
Hayfield, Washington-Lee, Madison, McLean, South Lakes

Washington-Lee (1-4, 0-2)
L, Westfield, 10-30
W, Thomas Jefferson, 35-6
L, Wakefield, 10-13
L, Hayfield, 16-35
L, South Lakes, 2-28
Langley, Fairfax, McLean, Madison, Yorktown

McLean (0-5, 0-3)
L, Stone Bridge, 6-42
L, Marshall, 17-28
L, Madison, 0-30
L, South Lakes, 0-42
L, Hayfield, 28-43
Chantilly, Yorktown, Washington-Lee, Fairfax, Langley

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CONFERENCE 13 @ HALF-WAY POINT
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 02, 2015 11:36PM

CONFERENCE 13 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

Marshall (3-2, 2-0)
L, South Lakes, 8-52
W, McLean, 28-17
W, Edison, 30-20
L, Potomac Falls, 13-34
W, Falls Church, 42-6
Madison, Lee, Wakefield, Stuart, Thomas Jefferson

Wakefield (3-2, 1-0 )
L, Broad Run, 6-40
L, Yorktown, 7-24
W, Washington-Lee, 13-10
W, Falls Church, 24-20
W, Mount Vernon, 45-0
Edison, Stuart, Marshall, Thomas Jefferson, Lee

Edison (2-3, 2-1)
L, Hayfield, 0-21
L, West Potomac, 13-66
L, Marshall, 20-30
W, Thomas Jefferson, 52-26
W, Stuart, 34-7
Wakefield, Tuscarora, Falls Church, Lee, Potomac Falls

Lee (1-4, 1-0)
L, Lake Braddock, 0-69
L, Chantilly, 7-49
L, West Springfield, 7-34
W, Stuart, 14-9
L, Briar Woods, 14-42
Falls Church, Marshall, Thomas Jefferson, Edison, Wakefield

Falls Church (1-4, 0-2)
W, Eastern, 49-6
L, Potomac Falls, 14-62
L, Herndon, 14-28
L, Wakefield, 20-24
L, Marshall, 6-42
Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Edison, Oakton, Stuart

Thomas Jefferson (0-5, 0-2)
L, TC Williams, 0-65
L, Washington-Lee, 6-35
L, Mount Vernon, 18-40
L, Edison, 26-52
L, Annandale, 0-42
Stuart, Falls Church, Lee, Wakefield, Marshall

Stuart (0-5, 0-2)
L, Mount Vernon, 16-39
L, Herndon, 13-30
L, Annandale, 17-37
L, Lee, 9-14
L, Edison, 7-34
Thomas Jefferson, Wakefield, Potomac Falls, Marshall, Falls Church



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CONFERENCE 14 @ HALF-WAY POINT
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 02, 2015 11:59PM

CONFERENCE 14 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

Broad Run (5-0, 2-0)
W, Potomac Falls, 28-7
W, Wakefield, 40-6
W, Langley, 45-21
W, Centreville, 56-21
W, Briar Woods, 31-24
Yorktown, Stone Bridge, Oakton, Robinson, Tuscarora

Tuscarora (6-0, 1-0)
W, Briar Woods, 22-16
W, Loudoun County, 27-0
W, Hayfield, 40-14
W, Oakton, 28-14
W, Centreville, 49-42
W, Herndon, 70-28
Potomac Falls, Edison, Stone Bridge, Broad Run

Stone Bridge (3-2, 0-0)
W, McLean, 42-6
L, Madison, 24-35
W, Chantilly, 28-42
L, Westfield, 7-28
W, West Springfield, 41-10
Robinson, Broad Run, Tuscarora, Potomac Falls, Briar Woods

Potomac Falls (4-1, 0-1)
L, Broad Run, 7-28
W, Dominon, 7-6
W, Falls Church, 62-14
W, Langley, 26-6
W, Marshall, 31-13
Tuscarora, Briar Woods, Stuart, Stone Bridge, Edison

Briar Woods (2-4, 0-2)
L, Tuscarora, 16-22
L, South County, 28-47
W, South Lakes, 24-20
L, West Potomac, 27-29
L, Broad Run, 24-31
W, Lee, 42-14
Westfield, Potomac Falls, Chantilly, Stone Bridge

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:12AM

conf 6 Wrote:
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> Madison 47
> Yorktown 21
>
> SL 28
> W&L 2
>
> Big Conf 6 game coming up between SL and Madison
> on Oct 9.


That game is October 16. But it will be a big game, and likely decide #1 in Conference 6. I predict that Madison will win

Right now, I'd say the most likely end of season results for Conference 6 will be

1. Madison
2. South Lakes
3. Hayfield
4. Yorktown
5. Langley
6. Fairfax
7. W-L
8. McLean

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CONFERENCE 8 @ HALF-WAY POINT
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:30AM

CONFERENCE 8 RESULTS AT MID SEASON

Battlefield (4-2, 0-0)
W, CD Hylton, 28-0
W, Gar-Field, 46-14
W, Woodbridge, 27-3
L, Riverbend, 10-13
L, North Stafford, 17-20
W, Potomac, 17-7
Osbourn Park, Osbourn, Stonewall Jackson, Patriot

Patriot (1-4, 0-0)
W, Stafford, 20-17
L, Forest Park, 6-54
L, CD Hylton, 10-32
L, Woodbridge, 7-48
L, Mountain View, 28-56
Brooke Point, Stonewall Jackson, Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Battlefield

Osbourn (1-4, 0-0)
L, North Stafford, 22-53
L, CD Hylton, 13-35
L, Potomac, 12-14
W, Gar-Field, 60-30
L, Brooke Point, 20-35
Stafford, Stonewall Jackson, Battlefield, Patriot, Osbourn Park

Stonewall Jackson (0-6, 0-0)
L, Woodbridge, 13-17
L, Brooke Point, 0-39
L, North Stafford, 21-35
L, Forest Park, 20-50
L, Potomac, 7-45
L, Massaponax, 7-28
Osbourn, Patriot, Osbourn Park, Battlefield

Osbourn Park (0-6, 0-0)
L, Forest Park, 25-38
L, Mountain View, 14-49
L, Freedom, 17-34
L, CD Hylton, 0-40
L, Stafford, 21-41
L, North Stafford, 10-49
Battlefield, Stonewall Jackson, Patriot, Osbourn

6-22 before Conference play so far!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR Insider ()
Date: October 03, 2015 06:44AM

Wakefield beat Falls Church, you Jeanne out flipped in your conference 13 standings. Wakefield and Marshall are both 2-0 in conference.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 03, 2015 07:45AM

Oakton laid an egg last night against Westfield. Plain and simple. This is NOT an elite Westfield team. They were beatable. The game was 0-0 until 25 seconds left in the 2nd quarter. The wheels came off for Oakton in the second half.

_____________________________________________________________________

This is the best defense Westfield has ever had under Simmons, he said so himself. Four of their five suspended starters on offense return this week. I don't think elite is the definition but look at their record with what they've had to work with on offense. Think many schools in the region could lose their potential starting QB, starting RB, best OL, and 2 starting WR's and have the record they did regardless of the competition.

Oakton didn't lay an egg, Westfield did what they were supposed to do, special teams and defense set up their lethargic offense for the win. As usual the offensive play calling was very predictable. The Oakton defenders were calling out plays before Westfield snapped the ball.

What happened to open the game up was that someone on the Westfield staff decided to do something they hadn't done all season, throw consistently. Up till that point Westfield had been a run heavy, go nowhere offense with opposing defenses packing the box and stuffing the run.

I think from this point on what you'll see now that the suspended playmakers are back is more of what the second half looked like. Their defense and special teams have been carrying them to this point, now there actually might be some offensive help. Big blow to see #41 on crutches, hopefully he'll be back. But the mantra has always been next man up, they've proven that through the first half of the season.

Not saying their going to win it all because this is the most wide open it's been in 6A North for a few years. But don't think for one minute that Oakton actually ever had a chance on Thursday night. Westfield coaching staff just finally decided to take the training wheels off the offense and open it up a bit.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: give me a break ()
Date: October 03, 2015 08:38AM

Give it up Its like 4 kids are missing Scanlon is the QB The other dude lost the QB battle and to keep exaggerating how many players were missing is a joke. A really good D with an ok offense even when all 4 players are back and I am a Westfield fan. Oakton is not good period.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 03, 2015 08:58AM

Give it up Its like 4 kids are missing Scanlon is the QB The other dude lost the QB battle and to keep exaggerating how many players were missing is a joke. A really good D with an ok offense even when all 4 players are back and I am a Westfield fan. Oakton is not good period.

________________________________________________________

Scanlon's the QB but if you're a Westfield fan then you know the other QB who "lost" his job is actually the more natural QB. You also probably know then that the plan was for the two to alternate. You then obviously also know the other QB runs the read option much more effectively.

You should also know then that if there are only 4 kids, as you put it, that's still a significant number. I'm not justifying anything, my post was merely to state that if the original poster thought Oakton actually had a chance he was watching another game from what the rest of us were.

Take 4 skill position offensive starters, the number you stated, off of any team in the area. Think they'd be 4-1? That was the other point I was making, nothing more.

So relax...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:01AM

NR Insider Wrote:
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> Wakefield beat Falls Church, you Jeanne out
> flipped in your conference 13 standings.
> Wakefield and Marshall are both 2-0 in conference.

My source had that game wrong. But I don't see that Wakefield has had 2 conference games yet. In the olden days of yore, we had those things called newspapers that would do this sort of thing.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: give me a break ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:09AM

No you relax. Don't tell me to relax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:13AM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> I'm not justifying anything, my post was
> merely to state that if the original poster
> thought Oakton actually had a chance he was
> watching another game from what the rest of us
> were.

Not to pile on but this is a fact. After the first series it was obvious that Oakton was not going to put any points on the scoreboard. We'll see how the offense develops over the next five games but I rate Westfield in the top 3 in 6A North right now just behind SC and LB.

Kinda funny, an Oakton fan watching the game says not impressed Westfield no good, a Westfield fan discounting the win saying Oakton no good. Truth is probably somewhere in between.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield sux ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:35AM

All you Westfield sycophants (I know you will need to pull out a dictionary for that one), don't worry yourself.....they will lose when it counts anyway

Signed Ms. Dixie Cupper

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Disappointed Cougar ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:55AM

Oakton didn't lay an egg, Westfield did what they were supposed to do, special teams and defense set up their lethargic offense for the win. As usual the offensive play calling was very predictable. The Oakton defenders were calling out plays before Westfield snapped the ball.
__________________________________________________________________

Actually, yes. Oakton laid an egg. Of course, they were calling out the plays. They play WF every year and the two teams and coaching staffs know each other's tendencies and schemes. As for not having a chance, they certainly did. Until the last half minute of the first half, it was a 0-0 game. They were definitely in it.

As usual, WF was well coached, made adjustments, and executed. Oakton did not. Their D was on the field the entire second half, they gave WF some short fields, and they made Scanlon look like Peyton Manning with piss-poor tackling and coverage. Not suggesting WF is not the better team; they are. It's just Oakton is usually playing two opponents: themselves and the other team. You cannot consistently win that way. They are their own worst enemy.

I have watched the Westfield teams going back to Evan Royster and Mike Glennon. This is a solid WF team; but it's not elite. Solid may be good enough this year though - given that some teams are down this year.

While WF has a good record, with the exception of South County and Stone Bridge (with its Div QB out for a good chunk of the game), they have played bad TC and WL teams and a down Oakton squad. Let's wait to see how well they do against the rest of the Concorde schedule before anointing them the 6A champions.

Any word on Clancy? I did not see the hit if that's what it was.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agreed baby ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:56AM

I agree, Westfield does suck. Bad atmosphere over there, boot licking fans, chokies when it counts. Party boys and not much else.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ms. Dixie Cup ()
Date: October 03, 2015 10:52AM

Ms. Dixie Cup, can't wait to meet you under the SOCO Bleachers again, you know, our usual spot. Don't worry I won't forget the Tissues this time..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield does suck ()
Date: October 03, 2015 03:31PM

I agree with previous posts. Never have liked the pomposity of the program, the players and the fans. Something poisoning the well over there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield haters ()
Date: October 03, 2015 04:20PM

To all of you WF haters, best of luck to your squads success in this "down year" for the WF and Centreville squads. Now is the time to step up and stop your pity party and Concorde envy which so prevails some of your posts. If WF doesn't do well now that they are no longer playing "Dixie" your prognostication will be correct. If on the other hand they play well and get into the playoffs again, then you will need to finally agree that the program is in fact solid. Without many D1 prospects, they year in and year out get into the playoffs. There are very few squads around the northern region that can claim the same success. Yes they have fallen in the playoffs more than they would like, but at least they show up to the table and are not standing back against the wall dreaming.

Let the teams play and see who comes out victorious at the end of the game, and not at the end of the 1st half. There are two half's for a reason. Best of luck to all the participants.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: George M ()
Date: October 03, 2015 11:46PM

who was that fairfax kid who suffered the concussion earlier this week? Heard is is still having problems walking. Is he going to be okay?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 04, 2015 09:14AM

A lot of interesting results this week with a couple big surprises (mainly how average Centreville is and how West Springfield got drubbed).

Centreville @ Lake Braddock (-7.0)
*Lake Braddock won 33-0. I really thought this would be closer. I guess I have to come to the conclusion that Centreville is not very good this year having not seen them play. Granted they played an incredibly 3 strong teams consecutively, to get blown out twice, I think removes the Wildcats from any contender list.

Edison (-8.0) @ Stuart
*Edison won 34-7.

Fairfax @ Langley (-14.0)
*Langley wins 36-0 for their first win of the season.

Falls Church @ Marshall (-7.0)
*Marshall wins 42-6. As I stated last week, I think this team is surprisingly the favorite this year in their conference. They’re 2-0 in conference and still haven’t played the 3 worst teams.

Thomas Jefferson @ Annandale (-45.0)
*Annandale won 42-0.

Lee @ Briar Woods (-35.0)
*Briar Woods won 42-14.

Madison (-6.0) @ Yorktown
*Madison beat Yorktown 47-21.

McLean @ Hayfield (-31.0)
*Hayfield won 43-28; McLean kept it closer than I imagined.

Mount Vernon @ Wakefield (-10.0)
*Wakefield dominated 45-0.

Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0)
*Robinson won 24-14. Robinson won both battles at the line and are the better team. Robinson did not attempt one pass the entire game, they are exclusively an option run team, it would have been interesting to see if Chantilly dared them to throw. Chantilly is good but a lot of dropped balls crippled scoring opportunities. I still say Chantilly’s QB is the best in the Concorde, I wish they’d up the tempo a little bit.

South Lakes (-13.0) @ Washington-Lee
*South Lakes won 28-2.

Stone Bridge @ West Springfield (-7.0)
*Stone Bridge trounced West Springfield 41-10. Very surprised at how lopsided it was.

Tuscarora (-40.0) @ Herndon
*Tuscarora won 70-28.

West Potomac (-25.0) @ Woodson
*West Potomac won 45-26.

Westfield (-14.0) @ Oakton
*Westfield won 38-7. Westfield is the team to beat in 6A North.

South County (-21.0) @ TC Williams
*South County won 42-2.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 04, 2015 10:31AM

Westfield does suck Wrote:
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> Never have liked the pomposity of the program, the players and the
> fans.

Seem like regular folks to me. If you want to see pomposity travel over to Stone Bridge. Their sports complex is a virtual shrine to SB football - you would think that was the only sport played at SB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: you know ()
Date: October 04, 2015 02:07PM

Yes Stone Bridge is pompous but so is Westfield. Just the attitude of people around there stinks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football ()
Date: October 04, 2015 02:42PM

Do you think WS playing SOCO close was lucky or SB was a fluke? And how do you think WS will do against WP?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: it does not matter ()
Date: October 04, 2015 02:50PM

It does not matter, Westfield, Braddock, SOCO, WS - whomever wins will get splattered by Ocean Lakes at States. Have you not been reading about the incessant cheating down there at Ocean Lakes and all they get are slaps on the wrist? It just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Why ()
Date: October 04, 2015 02:56PM

Why don't they get punished and I've heard stories of athletes being given PEDS by coaches why don't they get punished

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: because ()
Date: October 04, 2015 03:50PM

Because the whole beach area does not care (win at any cost baby) and VHSL has their collective heads up their ass

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Da Greek ()
Date: October 04, 2015 04:40PM

Lots of spot on comments today/yesterday. The beach area does cheat, and no one seems to care to do anything about it.

Stone Bridge is pompous, very pompous. Do you know how it burns them that Briar Woods and Broad Run both have more state championships than they do?

Can't wait for the lines this week to come out, Steve.

D6 and D5 are more wide open than they have been in years - There are no less than 10 teams in Norther Virginia that have a legitimate shot at Norhtern Region Championships.

Winning the whole thing this year? That is another story!

Is Wakefield's conference the worst that it has ever been? Look and see when their top teams have played anyone decent out of conference!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 04, 2015 04:53PM

Annandale (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon

Briar Woods @ Westfield (-14.0)

Broad Run (-28.0) @ Yorktown

Centreville (-9.0) @ Oakton

Edison @ Wakefield (-13.0)

Falls Church @ Lee (-7.0)
*Look for Lee to get first win on the year.

Hayfield (-10.0) @ Fairfax

Herndon @ South Lakes (-20.0)

Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)

McLean @ Chantilly (-28.0)

Robinson @ Stone Bridge (-10.0)
*This could be considered a minor surprise pick. I just can’t see a one dimensional non-passing team beating Stone Bridge. Has game of the week potential.

Stuart (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*Battle of winless teams will make this a big game for both to avoid a 0-10 season.

Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Potomac Falls
*Still learning my Loudoun football, but this could be an intriguing game. I feel Potomac Falls is the best team that no one is talking about this season.

Woodson @ South County (-35.0)

Washington-Lee @ Langley (-14.0)

West Springfield @ West Potomac (-3.0)
*This will be a fun game, how will West Springfield bounce back? Similar to my Potomac Falls comment, I don’t think West Potomac is getting the credit they deserve, they have a very dynamic offense, look for this one to be high scoring.

Lake Braddock (-35.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Does matter ()
Date: October 04, 2015 06:50PM

It's unfortunate that the south cheats but the boys in the northern region can be satisfied with a northern region championship. It's not a state title but it'll have to do until the south stops cheating. Civilly had their chance last year but you can't beat talent with the wing T.

I'd say SB was somewhat fluke. They beat a good Robinson team and an extra point from beating SC. However if their WR's and qb aren't making plays they are not that good.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 04, 2015 07:22PM

You can't beat talent with the wing t?? Ask Oscar Smith about that. If Boose plays and Turner is more than 70% they win. Clueless!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 04, 2015 07:26PM

The South is expected to win all the time now with all the tainted crap that goes on there. The north champion will be the legit winner. If the north wins then it's a miracle.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Steve, you blew it! ()
Date: October 04, 2015 08:59PM

Jefferson should be slightly favored over Stuart. You botched that one, Steve.
Stuart should never be favored over anyone, let alone by 10 points!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Steve, you blew it! ()
Date: October 04, 2015 09:00PM

whoops, I mean by 14 points! Its worse than I thought.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EP ()
Date: October 04, 2015 10:21PM

Didn't Lee beat Stuart?

I wouldn't count on them beating Falls Church.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: knowerofthingsfootball ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:37PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Briar Woods @ Westfield (-14.0)

I would be putting Westfield on upset alert here. Do you realize that Briar Woods opponents record is currently at 25-5? They are due. Plus no Clancy.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 05, 2015 12:32PM

knowerofthingsfootball Wrote:
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> steve k2* Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Briar Woods @ Westfield (-14.0)
>
> I would be putting Westfield on upset alert here.
> Do you realize that Briar Woods opponents record
> is currently at 25-5? They are due. Plus
> no Clancy.

Sure, this will not be an easy win for either team. It's actually 25-6.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield sux ()
Date: October 05, 2015 02:41PM

who gives a shit about westfield.....bunch of dixie cupping fools

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfiled Blows ()
Date: October 05, 2015 02:54PM

Your ignorance Clearly Clouds your Knowledge Chappy, For if the Kids Had been Using Dixie Cups, they would not have been suspended. Stick to what you know Salad Tosser.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfiled is defiled ()
Date: October 05, 2015 03:33PM

Yes Westfiled has been defiled in the minds of many for a long time

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: count me in ()
Date: October 05, 2015 05:05PM

Count me in, I have always thought the people and students at Westfield (and Lake Braddock too) are pompous and hard to deal with....get over yourselves people.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wow - 13 sucks! ()
Date: October 05, 2015 08:35PM

Was looking at Power Points and potential D5 playoff matchups...

Has anyone noticed how god awful Conference 13 is, especially when compared to Conference 14?

13 = Fairfax teams plus Wakefield. Lee, Marshall, Edison, Stuart, TJ, and Falls Church are 4 - 19 out of conference.

14= Loudoun teams Tuscarora, Broad Run, Briar Woods, Stone Bridge, and Potomac Falls.

Those teams are 17-4 out of conference!

The last place finisher in 14 would be a 28 point favorite over the champion in Conference 13!

Take a look at the schedules each conference has to play and it makes things look even worse!

How can Fairfax schools be sooooooo bad?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Titans ()
Date: October 05, 2015 10:17PM

The enrollment in the D5 schools in Fairfax has changed dramatically in the last 2 to 4 years. The homes around the schools have 60 to 80 year adults that never went south ( kids long gone ) and the houses that sold went to 35 to 45 Government transfers with older or no kids. Hard to keep up with the lower priced homes and population in Louden county and D5. D6 schools school's still holding on but barely. Transfer of power will continue over next few years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 13 ()
Date: October 05, 2015 11:12PM

Couple of reasons for Conference 13's struggles, apart from the fact that none of them are really traditional football powerhouses besides Edison:

1) A lot of these schools are having a lot of difficulty getting kids to play football for safely and cultural reasons. Most of these schools dress fewer than 40 varsity players every Friday night, and almost all of them have real trouble fielding freshmen and/or JV teams.

2) A lot of the kids who do play football are some of the best athletes in the school and play other sports, leaving less opportunity for offseason weight rooms and the new Green Day activities.

3) A lot of these schools are poorer and in areas that don't drive some of the huge community sponsorships that you'd find at a relatively average D6 school, and they don't get gates that are nearly as big for football nights because of the size of the schools and the lack of community involvement. Consequently the athletic budgets for these schools aren't nearly as big and they don't have as much disposable income for buying extra equipment for their weight rooms and football programs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: October 06, 2015 09:55AM

Wow - 13 sucks! Wrote:
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> Was looking at Power Points and potential D5
> playoff matchups...
>
> Has anyone noticed how god awful Conference 13 is,
> especially when compared to Conference 14?
>
> 13 = Fairfax teams plus Wakefield. Lee, Marshall,
> Edison, Stuart, TJ, and Falls Church are 4 - 19
> out of conference.
>
> 14= Loudoun teams Tuscarora, Broad Run, Briar
> Woods, Stone Bridge, and Potomac Falls.
>
> Those teams are 17-4 out of conference!
>
> The last place finisher in 14 would be a 28 point
> favorite over the champion in Conference 13!
>
> Take a look at the schedules each conference has
> to play and it makes things look even worse!
>
> How can Fairfax schools be sooooooo bad?


Of all these Schools, Marshall seems to be in the best position. They seem to have really benefitted from the recent realignment. Back when they were in the old Liberty District, they struggled. This includes a 2-8 season in 2014, preceded by two consecutive winless seasons. It's nice to see them having some success after years of losing.

Looking at their remaining schedule, I don't expect them to win this weekend, as they are playing Madison, and Madison is too strong this year (and will likely win Conference 6). Aside from that, I think they will win out, with the possible exception of their game against Wakefield, which will probably decide the Conference 13 championship.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 06, 2015 11:18AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Annandale (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon

Annandale will pound the Majors, but not quite by that much


> Briar Woods @ Westfield (-14.0)

Westfield covers that spread.


> Broad Run (-28.0) @ Yorktown

Broad Run covers as well.


> Centreville (-9.0) @ Oakton

I'm going with Oakton in the upset.


> Edison @ Wakefield (-13.0)

Wakefield wins and covers.


> Falls Church @ Lee (-7.0)
> *Look for Lee to get first win on the year.

Lee notched their belt with a win over Stuart. It's going to be a lonely notch on that belt. Falls Church wins here.


> Hayfield (-10.0) @ Fairfax

Hayfield wins by 14.


> Herndon @ South Lakes (-20.0)

South Lakes wins and covers. Herndon is not a good team.


> Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)

Madison wins, but not by that much.


> McLean @ Chantilly (-28.0)

Same with Chantilly. Wins by 18.



> Robinson @ Stone Bridge (-10.0)
> *This could be considered a minor surprise pick.
> I just can’t see a one dimensional non-passing
> team beating Stone Bridge. Has game of the week
> potential.

I think Stone Bridge wins and covers.


> Stuart (-14.0) @ Jefferson
> *Battle of winless teams will make this a big game
> for both to avoid a 0-10 season.

Stuart wins, but doesn't cover.


> Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Potomac Falls
> *Still learning my Loudoun football, but this
> could be an intriguing game. I feel Potomac Falls
> is the best team that no one is talking about this
> season.

Tusky wins and covers.


> Woodson @ South County (-35.0)

Get there early, this one will be done fast. South County wins and covers this spread.


> Washington-Lee @ Langley (-14.0)

Langley wins by 10.


>
> West Springfield @ West Potomac (-3.0)
> *This will be a fun game, how will West
> Springfield bounce back? Similar to my Potomac
> Falls comment, I don’t think West Potomac is
> getting the credit they deserve, they have a very
> dynamic offense, look for this one to be high
> scoring.

West Potomac wins by 2 TDs.


> Lake Braddock (-35.0) @ TC Williams

Braddock wins by 28.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: internetwaybackmachine ()
Date: October 06, 2015 01:27PM

centrevillerox Wrote:
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> Westfield does seem to be the pre-season media
> favorite to represent 6A North this year. But I
> don’t see any reason to believe anything will be
> different this season than the last four. They
> need to replace practically the entire offense and
> unless someone emerges they aren’t going to put
> up points like they did last year.
>
> Sure they’ll be good and win a playoff game or
> two but I don’t see them getting past Lake
> Braddock/South County/Centreville this season.
> I think Centreville is #1 in 6A North until
> someone unseats them. I mean c’mon - who on
> their schedule is going to beat them?
>
> Annandale – easy win NOPE
> Fairfax - easy win YEP
> Broad Run – tough game but a win WAY NOPE
> Tuscarora – win - tough game but Tuscarora is
> overrated this year NOPE AND NOPE
> Lake Braddock – win – NOPE does anyone really think
> Braddock will beat Centreville?

> Herndon - easy win
> Oakton – easy win
> Westfield - maybe a loss - only toss-up game on
> their schedule
> Chantilly - easy win
> Robinson – easy win - Robinson also overrated
> this year
> So I look for 9-1 or 8-2 season if someone pulls
> an unlikely upset.

Is it too early to get a chuckle out of this one?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hold the chuckling ()
Date: October 06, 2015 02:54PM

Of course the earlier poster was a bit optimistic on Cville season but all the rest of you teams and fans can start chuckling only once you have also won 2 state championships and six NR championships. Till then you are just posers.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not gonna hold the chuckling ()
Date: October 06, 2015 03:04PM

The name centerville does not automatically mean you win-- no more AJ Turner, Boose Tutt and now you are just an also ran.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 27 Years ()
Date: October 06, 2015 03:15PM

Maybe when some schools are around for 27 years they also will have that many NR championships...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: also ran ()
Date: October 06, 2015 03:39PM

Funny how the other "contenders" like to bring up the also ran argument....by extension that must mean other teams have been also rans for a long time....like said earlier, win something and then pop off

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: chant mom ()
Date: October 06, 2015 05:16PM

George M Wrote:
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> who was that fairfax kid who suffered the
> concussion earlier this week? Heard is is still
> having problems walking. Is he going to be okay?


Who exactly are you talking about? Was it the boy from Chantilly?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dancing Machine ()
Date: October 06, 2015 05:47PM

Scanlon could possibly be the first player in VHSL league history to throw for 5 TD's one week and Catch 5 TD's the next

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pretty young ()
Date: October 06, 2015 06:13PM

Centreville is only younger than Westfield and south county in fairfax county.

They have a lot more titles, region and state than a bunch of schools that have been around many years more

If centreville can solve their turnover issue they will be an interesting team at the end of the year. Ask the LB defense. 74 plays run against them and 20 first downs given up. They can run the ball

They didn't lose to weak sisters either combine 3 loses are to teams combined 16-0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hate to pick on Steve, but.... ()
Date: October 06, 2015 06:22PM

Couple of the spreads are much too close...
Let me pick some blowouts for ya'll....


Madison beats Marshall by 30... at least.
Chantilly by 30 or more over McLean.
Tuscarora by at least 21 over Potomac Falls.
South County hangs 60 plus on Woodson.
Also think Annandale beats Mt Vernon by 45 or more.

On the flip side, I think Oahton keeps things close against Centreville, and that Stone Bridge and Robinson is a close one, as will be Briar Woods and Westfield.

Peace.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CENTREVILLE? REALLY? ()
Date: October 06, 2015 06:38PM

Please, please stop with the Centreville crap this year. The two D5 schools from Loudoun hung 56 and 49 respectively against them. Broad Run had ZERO yards passing! ZERO! They ran the ball up their ass all night, then Tuscarora did the same thing a week later.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 06, 2015 06:50PM

Tusky had to throw the ball you dumb ass. Cville ran ball up their ass. Watch the game!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: washingtonpostsportsreporter ()
Date: October 06, 2015 07:07PM

nufan Wrote:
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> Tusky had to throw the ball you dumb ass. Cville
> ran ball up their ass. Watch the game!!

Tuscarora: 35 carries, 219 yards / 9-14, 217 yards
Centreville: 33 carries, 203 yards / 9-12, 73 yards

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 06, 2015 07:31PM

So those numbers you would say they Rammed up each other's. 219- 203???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Steve fan ()
Date: October 06, 2015 10:11PM

Hate to pick on Steve, but.... Wrote:
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> Couple of the spreads are much too close...
> Let me pick some blowouts for ya'll....
>
>
> Madison beats Marshall by 30... at least.

Agree. I'm glad Marshall is having a good season, but this year, they are playing competition that is more appropriate for them. Madison will be one of the tougher games they have this season. FWIW, Marshall was blown out by South Lakes, and Madison is the better team.

> Chantilly by 30 or more over McLean.

I should agree, but McLean kept it close against Hayfield, so maybe they are turning things around there. On the other hand, maybe Hayfield isn't as good as advertised. Steve's line sounds about right.

> Tuscarora by at least 21 over Potomac Falls.

Don't know much about Loudon football, so I can't comment.

> South County hangs 60 plus on Woodson.

Agree, but how many does Woodson score? I think a 35 point line sounds right.

> Also think Annandale beats Mt Vernon by 45 or
> more.

I've seen Annandale play, and they are a better team than their record would suggest. I tend to agree.
>
> On the flip side, I think Oahton keeps things
> close against Centreville, and that Stone Bridge
> and Robinson is a close one, as will be Briar
> Woods and Westfield.

Agree with all of these. I think Centreville gets a close win. They don't cover Steve's spread
>
> Peace.

To your list of blowouts, I'd add Langley over WL. I think Langley wins by 21.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not correct stats ()
Date: October 06, 2015 10:56PM

Centreville had 339 yards on 45 carries against Tuscarora over 7 yards per attempt. Max preps source

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: talking Centreville ()
Date: October 06, 2015 10:59PM

Will keep talking Centreville until one of these poser teams comes close to CVille's years of excellence. 2 state titles, 6 region titles, nobody comes close really.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: plus baby ()
Date: October 06, 2015 11:01PM

Plus should really be three state titles for CVille as they took Ocean Lakes to OT last year and just read the internet and you will see the endemic cheating going on at that school. VHSL should take Ocean Lakes' title away....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agreed ()
Date: October 06, 2015 11:06PM

Centreville is best in North over the years with Westfield second. just face the facts.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Facts? ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:26AM

agreed Wrote:
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> Centreville is best in North over the years with
> Westfield second. just face the facts.


Face the facts? You haven't provided any facts. Please provide them (make sure you look at the Centreville/Westfield regular season match-ups when you do) and I will face them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who gives a shit ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:57AM

Who gives a shit about regular season matchups it is about region titles and state championships. Oh I forgot apparently Westfield cares about them - king of the regular season, choker when it comes to real champ time. Sorry I even gave you credit as being second best in the region maybe should rethink that and give that distinction to someone other than the Buffalo Bills....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Been a long time ()
Date: October 07, 2015 10:04AM

Been a long time since 2007 Westfield Bills fans

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Long long time ()
Date: October 07, 2015 10:39AM

Bush was president
Hillary was on her way to being the first female president
Great Recession had not hit
Seniors on that team are almost 27 years old
Championships are all that matter.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LkbcY ()
Date: October 07, 2015 11:14AM

who gives a shit Wrote:
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> Who gives a shit about regular season matchups it
> is about region titles and state championships.

There are many different ways to measure success and you have chosen one.

http://calpreps.com/Virginia_dynasty_ratings.htm
(Average yearly ratings from 2001 to present)

1 Oscar Smith (Chesapeake, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 2
2 Westfield (Chantilly, VA) Virginia 6A Conference
3 Phoebus (Hampton, VA) Virginia 3A Conference 27
3 L.C. Bird (Chesterfield, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 12 5A
5 Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 14
6 Salem (Salem, VA) Virginia 4A Conference 24
7 Hermitage (Richmond, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 11
8 Ocean Lakes (Virginia Beach, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 1
9 Lake Taylor (Norfolk, VA) Virginia 4A Conference 17
10 Battlefield (Haymarket, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 8
11 Robinson (Fairfax, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 5
12 Hampton (Hampton, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 10 5A
13 Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 14
13 C. D. Hylton(Woodbridge, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 4
15 Varina (Richmond, VA) Virginia 5A Conference 12 5A
16 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA) Virginia 5A Conference
17 Centreville (Clifton, VA) Virginia 6A Conference 5

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LkbcY ()
Date: October 07, 2015 11:51AM

Or:

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/bestprograms.cfm
Top 50 Programs of this Century (2000-15)

1 Phoebus 178-21
2 Gretna 150-37
3 Salem 153-35
4 Oscar Smith 160-30
5 L.C. Bird 158-27
6 Stone Bridge 162-32
7 Riverheads 150-33
8 Westfield 147-35
9 Essex 146-42
10 Gate City 133-47
11 Richlands 146-36
12 Giles 140-40
13 James Monroe 135-50
14 Lake Taylor 140-37
15 George Wythe 135-43
16 Centreville 126-51

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: all it means ()
Date: October 07, 2015 12:02PM

Yep as the data suggests, Westfield is a great REGULAR SEASON program.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Finish as champions ()
Date: October 07, 2015 12:14PM

Nationals have the 2nd most regular season wins over last 4 years. Who cares win a championship who cares? Until the win we don't want to hear how good they are. finish the season with just a northern region championship or just shut up. Nothing better then second best for over 8 years. Consistently good will give you that. But you haven't left northern Virginia for a long time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Parent ()
Date: October 07, 2015 12:28PM

You all are really mean, stop being so bad. I think I will hold a dixie cup party this weekend to make sure everybody on the team knows how much we really love em

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 07, 2015 01:57PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Westfield doesn’t have that big of an enrollment
> advantage over a lot of Fairfax County 6A schools
> - the rezoning of 2009 reduced them by 500 almost
> immediately. Last year’s enrollments:
>
> Robinson 2790
> Chantilly 2692 (-98)
> Westfield 2682 (-108)
> Lake Braddock 2660 (-130)
> Fairfax 2573 (-217)
> West Potomac 2464 (-326)
> Centreville 2436 (-354)
> South Lakes 2378 (-412)
> Woodson 2359 (-431)
> Herndon 2267 (-523)
> Oakton 2267 (-523)
> West Springfield 2247 (-543)
> South County 2114 (-676)
> Annandale 2162 (-628)
> Madison 2059 (-731)
> McLean 2050 (-740)
> Langley 1996 (-795)
> Hayfield 1992 (-798)
> Mount Vernon 1965 (-825)

The current 2015-2016 enrollment:

Lake Braddock 2772
Chantilly 2693
Robinson 2653
Westfield 2608
Centreville 2472
West Potomac 2466
Woodson 2446
South Lakes 2436
Fairfax 2414
Oakton 2412
Herndon 2264
West Springfield 2218
South County 2186
Annandale 2158
Madison 2123
McLean 2089
Marshall 2036
Hayfield 1975
Stuart 1973
Mount Vernon 1972
Langley 1967
Edison 1934
Falls Church 1867
Thomas Jefferson 1823
Lee 1764

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: October 07, 2015 02:29PM

You often get misleading impressions of schools enrollments when watching HS football games. Of the two SL home games I've been to this year D5 Briar Woods looked like it would have had a higher enrollment because they had a lot more players on the sidelines than SL watching while another D6 school, Mclean, looked like they had only a dozen other players on the sidelines and based on their size it looked like they dressed a lot of JV players. When we played Westfield in years past they always had tons of players dressed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Look behind the numbers ()
Date: October 07, 2015 02:44PM

Looking at the base number of a schools population doesn't look at the true demographic make up of a school. While recent immigrants sometimes play football, for the most part it's a fairly low participation rate. Many of these large schools have as much as 50% population that are recent immigrants that are severely underrepresented on the football team. Most of these D 5s in outside fairfax have a larger pool of kids that are more likely to play football then do most of the D6's in fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:17PM

Look behind the numbers Wrote:
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> Most of these D 5s in outside
> fairfax have a larger pool of kids that are more
> likely to play football then do most of the D6's
> in fairfax.

I have no doubt this is true. Below are last year's numbers for Loudoun County.

Tuscarora 1951
Broad Run 1860
Stone Bridge 1853
Briar Woods 1751
Potomac Falls 1613
Woodgrove 1548
Loudoun County 1497
Freedom 1454
Dominon 1447
Park View 1441
Heritage 1356
Loudoun Valley 1312
Champe 1251
Rock Ridge 798
Riverside n/a

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VHSL ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:17PM

We could just let VHSL determine who the "better" team is. You'll always be able to say "so and so is better because _____"

They're both great programs although I'd hardly call it a "rivalry"...C-ville has to win a few games between them first!
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville has to win a few games? ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:24PM

Are u kidding me - every important game between them in the last five years (3 regional championship games) Cville won. Again the Westfield Bills trying to say regular season means something....what a bunch of posers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WESTFIELD BILLS ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:26PM

WESTFIELD BILLS

WESTFIELD BILLS

WESTFIELD BILLS

WESTFIELD BILLS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: and then Oakton ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:27PM

and in between Oakton smacked you too....culture of choking if you ask me

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: chokies is as chokies do ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:32PM

agree bulldogs are chokers.....just look at the collar around the dog's neck

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:51PM

Cville has to win a few games? Wrote:
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> Are u kidding me - every important game between
> them in the last five years (3 regional
> championship games) Cville won.

Say what you want but during these last four years of Centreville’s return to power - there was only 1 year that Westfield did not beat Centreville at least once. No other team can say that.

Westfield won the Concorde/Conference 5 title in 2011, 2012, 2014 - not Centreville. Youi might want to discount that as meaningless but considering the talent Centreville had those years it’s something to be proud of.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I too care about the little things ()
Date: October 07, 2015 03:54PM

Let us make sure to pass out those participation ribbons then for all the kiddies too. Who gives a shit about Conf 5 Title, it is about going south to Charlottesville and big/bad, dixie cupping Westfield has not been there for almost ten years. Those are the facts.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: October 07, 2015 04:25PM

I too care about the little things Wrote:
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> Let us make sure to pass out those participation
> ribbons then for all the kiddies too.

But you are being disingenuous you know it. It meant a lot to Centreville back in 2013 when they finally got another one.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yep right on ()
Date: October 07, 2015 04:29PM

Yep the 2013 wildcats did win that and everything going 15-0. If you want to talk who has been the best around the north the last 15 years we can start with that team. There is NO DOUBT that the 2013 Centreville team would beat any other team in the Northern Region ever!!!! I have watched football around here a long time including the Westfield 2004 and 2007 teams (very good teams, I give it to you) but 2013 Cville team is best there has ever been around here....and maybe the state of Virginia.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like SOCO ()
Date: October 07, 2015 04:45PM

there be a new sheriff in town and it is called the SOCO Stallions

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference titles watered down ()
Date: October 07, 2015 04:49PM

Conference titles mean little anymore as 16 teams make playoffs and power points determine seeding.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: are u kidding me ()
Date: October 07, 2015 04:50PM

Now there is a team that needs to do some serious putting up or shutting up. SOCO has not really done anything yet. Lets see if they can get past the top NR competition this year for once instead of just talking about it.....and I don't care that they won the D5 crown before so don't go there....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco sux ()
Date: October 07, 2015 05:25PM

agree SOCO and Lake Braddock have not done anything yet

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tangent Time ()
Date: October 07, 2015 06:45PM

Does no one take into account that if you're a Loudoun county student you can go to any Loudoun county high school under the premise they have available space? So you take the with the fact that all the Jimmy's and Joe's are moving out there, it's no mystery why their teams, the ones we're talking about, are so good. Very frustrating to hear D5 in LC better than D6 in Fairfax, imagine if Fairfax county had 4 or 5 super teams. Damn!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudoun Dad ()
Date: October 07, 2015 07:09PM

True, but Woodgrove is the only strong Loudoun school that kids from other Loudoun schools can attend AND then their parents have to get them there.
Broad Run, Stone Bridge, Tuscarora, and Stone Bridge are over capacity, so others CAN NOT enroll there.


You failed.

The Loudoun D5 schools are very competitive with the top Fairfax D6 schools, but even I wouldn't say they are better. Just better than any Fairfax school their size.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: holdthatthought ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:22PM

yep right on Wrote:
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> There is NO DOUBT that the 2013 Centreville team would beat any other team in
> the Northern Region ever!!!! I have watched
> football around here a long time including the
> Westfield 2004 and 2007 teams (very good teams, I
> give it to you) but 2013 Cville team is best there
> has ever been around here....and maybe the state
> of Virginia.

https://twitter.com/vhslreference/status/651899874703724545
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I would ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:37PM

would put Cville 2013 up against any of these teams....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I saw them ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:40PM

I saw 03 Westfield and 98 Hylton in person, Cville 2013 would have beaten them....of course can't speak to the tidewater teams but I would still take my chances....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OK... ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:42PM

What about Oakton '05 ?

They killed Landstowne "the greatest show on turf"?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: landstown ()
Date: October 07, 2015 09:48PM

That was a great win by Oakton, all due props to them. However, that was based on them shutting down Percy Harvin, one guy. Would Oakton have shut down all of Cville's weapons from 2013 plus remember the defense for Cville in 2013 was fantastic with Chad Wiggins and others swarming and sacking everyone in sight?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Old man ()
Date: October 07, 2015 10:07PM

93 and 94 Annandale Teams State Champs and Nationally rank both years would have killed the Centreville team

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 07, 2015 10:39PM

VHSL Reference appears to have tweeted their Top 10 of 250:
http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_team250_ever.cfm

An interesting debate for sure but it is really all just speculation.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wtw84... ()
Date: October 07, 2015 10:40PM

Why so Serious?. I like football. H.S. , 13th grades, Pro's before they changed the game late 80's/90's. This is High School. Not one mention of the Titans. Old School. Damn. Movie rights and all. I was WTW 84. WTW back then might have really loved todays playoff rules. They were different back then. WTW had many teams that went 9-1 8-2, And Failed to get a playoff berth. 1984. TC williams won State. WTW lost by a touchdown with our Second sting QB in, As the Starter was injured. We didnt get a second chance back then. I really dont care who wins and loses. I like to check a game now and then. Best Cheap date in town sometimes. Pick your Match . Gossip. Cool. Better be accurate, Drama. Eh.. High School was hard enough. Today , must be crazy. Dam. I could smoke between classes and make it on time. Its a game. Ok, Nothing to see here.......... Oh look. a plane is circling round my House. Dont Hack me Bro. I never post here. I would. Its football at HS level.... Is there a fantasy leauge of VA Schools?. Maybe someone should make it happen, I claim 5% stake in any and every start up. 10/7/2015 2225 Hrs, EDT. Its a game. I just want to See Woodson win when I take my kids to the Game.


P.S. I remeber the Bus ride to Frostburg.... Football camp as an 8th grader turned 9th. Wow. Coach Cox, Labby, Lowe, Coughlin, Freah? Mine, Freeland, Parks, Couglin. Any Kid who submits himself to this band of brothers. Should be proud. I remember one game. VS Chantilly. I was a 2nd String center. We actually got to go on the field. We stated on our 30 ish, Fuzzy. We slowly marched down the field. I remember a 3rd down and long somewhere on their side o' the 50. I snaped the ball. Pass. I hit some Linebacker or I dont know who. Knocked that guy down and helped make the play. We ended up scoring a tD. I only got in once. One Drive as a Center. We Scored. TYhat was enough for me. So go on. Keep judgin these kids. Nothing wrong with a bit o Ztalking Shite . End of the day. They are still Kids. Big. Eat your ass out of house N home. Kids.



Let the Chips, fall where they may. Let the best team win, Lord. Keep the Ref's fair and out of the Game is all I ask.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nova fb ()
Date: October 07, 2015 11:16PM

1978 team of Annandale was the best ever here in VA. After an undefeated season in 1978, Annandale ended the year ranked #1 in the nation by the National Sports Service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Football_National_Championship

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: October 07, 2015 11:42PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudoun Dad Too ()
Date: October 08, 2015 06:11AM

Tangent Time() failed by the letter of the law but Loudoun Dad you fail based on reality. Do you know the rosters of the teams you mentioned? I do. So you realize they have kids playing on their football teams that don’t live in their respective districts. Not mentioning names because honestly I don’t care, but it happens and its true.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Nation ()
Date: October 08, 2015 10:23AM

Agree that in years past SOCO played an "easier" early season schedule, but this year, come on. Briar Woods, Westfield, Hayfield and West Springfield to start the season - all playoff-bound teams - makes this year a bit different. Looks to me like SOCO and LB will play their last game each at 9 - 0. Projected score: 48 - 45....and I don't know who wins.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 08, 2015 11:27AM

South County has played a slightly more difficult schedule this year and they put 28 points on a very good Westfield defense. So honestly they appear to be the real deal. I also expect LB and SoCo to meet at 9-0. I'd give a slight edge to LB, they have won the last three scoring an amazing 143 points in those three games. SoCo's defense is better this year but enough better????

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO NATION ()
Date: October 08, 2015 02:26PM

They're small but fast. Sort of reminds me of last year - first round of the playoffs - when Robinson seemed to be surprised by their speed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO SUX ()
Date: October 08, 2015 03:03PM

Coach Baloney will figure out a way to screw it up.....perhaps by onside kicking every time to LB, Westfield, whomever so they get the ball at midfield every possession....what a dork.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sadly ()
Date: October 08, 2015 03:31PM

It's not the size of the school that matters it's the demographics. Loudon has a majority school of white kids with some African Americans. Most of the schools in fairfax county have a much higher minority rate. The westfields, centrevilles, robinsons, battlefields, chantilly's are more similar to Loudon where that have a higher Caucasian and African American demographic. So please westfields and cville stop the bragging you have the best student body to pick from.

Soco has no chance. Their defense is marginal at best. They have the talented but their scheme is so elementary hence WS put up 6 TD's. Regional championship defenses don't do that.....against anyone.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 08, 2015 05:00PM

Have you been to Cville lately. Whites are the minority's

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: michelle takaoka ()
Date: October 08, 2015 05:27PM

I'm Michelle Takaoka and I'm running for Fairfax County School Board.

A vote for me is a vote for DAILY HEAD.

I'm Michelle Takaoka and I've endorsed this message.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C-ville Demographics ()
Date: October 08, 2015 07:06PM

Muran knows all about the minority round eye in Centreville, Muran knows if all those smart Korean kids played Football instead of Band and Forensics, Centreville would have won the last 6 state championships and be favored for the next 6. Give us your input you little Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: October 09, 2015 08:47AM

C-ville Demographics Wrote:
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> Muran knows all about the minority round eye in
> Centreville, Muran knows if all those smart Korean
> kids played Football instead of Band and
> Forensics, Centreville would have won the last 6
> state championships and be favored for the next 6.
> Give us your input you little Muran

Risten to me Cat-ville, I don tink you nooooo what round-eye mean. Korea child no have round eye, korea child have slant eye, rike my son Han-Ree. And nother ting, dis Muran no rittle, dis Muran 5'5".

Hokay, to your question...if child of korea and udder asia praces pray for cat-ville dey win no game. Round eye know, asia soooooo goo math and numbah but nooooo goo big time go go foo-ball. Asia smaht, go be doctah. Asia reave pray to white round eye and brack round eye. Cat-ville no contend for no ting with korea.

Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Please stop ()
Date: October 09, 2015 10:09AM

Can you guys please just text each other the insults instead of having the rest of have to witness your playground fight? It's not funny or constructive.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Well said! ()
Date: October 09, 2015 10:41AM

Muran Wrote:
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> C-ville Demographics Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Muran knows all about the minority round eye in
> > Centreville, Muran knows if all those smart
> Korean
> > kids played Football instead of Band and
> > Forensics, Centreville would have won the last
> 6
> > state championships and be favored for the next
> 6.
> > Give us your input you little Muran
>
> Risten to me Cat-ville, I don tink you nooooo what
> round-eye mean. Korea child no have round eye,
> korea child have slant eye, rike my son Han-Ree.
> And nother ting, dis Muran no rittle, dis Muran
> 5'5".
>
> Hokay, to your question...if child of korea and
> udder asia praces pray for cat-ville dey win no
> game. Round eye know, asia soooooo goo math and
> numbah but nooooo goo big time go go foo-ball.
> Asia smaht, go be doctah. Asia reave pray to white
> round eye and brack round eye. Cat-ville no
> contend for no ting with korea.
>
> Muran

Couldn't of said it better myself!! This guy really knows football!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Benched ()
Date: October 09, 2015 10:44AM

SOCO SUX Wrote:
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> Coach Baloney will figure out a way to screw it
> up.....perhaps by onside kicking every time to LB,
> Westfield, whomever so they get the ball at
> midfield every possession....what a dork.


You must of been benched by Pannoni at some point...Maybe you played for him at Cville and he started a to be state champion over you. Get over yourself and congratulate success at a new program! He's going to onside kick you in the face!!

No one cares about Cville anymore, they're old news!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Nation ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:23AM

Well said. Coach Pannoni may never deliver a state title to South County, but he has delivered a large dose of community and school pride to an institution that took us 20 years of lobbying and hard work to be built. South County and its residents are already winners here.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 09, 2015 01:47PM

SOME OF YOU BONEHEADED SOCO FOLKS ARE CLUELESS...PANNOMNI DIDNT LAY SHIT FOR A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. HADDOCK TOOK OVER, LAID THE LAW DOWN, CHANGED THE OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. OFF THE FIELD THE KIDS LOVED PANNONI. GOOD MAN. HIS STYLE DIDNT WORK AT CVILLE. AND SO AFTER THREE STATE FINALS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THEY ARE OLD NEWS?? I HOPE SOCO DOES GO TO STATES. NO ISSUE THERE. GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE GET A CHANCE.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Weak ()
Date: October 09, 2015 01:56PM

nufan Wrote:
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> SOME OF YOU BONEHEADED SOCO FOLKS ARE
> CLUELESS...PANNOMNI DIDNT LAY SHIT FOR A STATE
> CHAMPIONSHIP. HADDOCK TOOK OVER, LAID THE LAW
> DOWN, CHANGED THE OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. OFF THE
> FIELD THE KIDS LOVED PANNONI. GOOD MAN. HIS STYLE
> DIDNT WORK AT CVILLE. AND SO AFTER THREE STATE
> FINALS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THEY ARE OLD NEWS??
> I HOPE SOCO DOES GO TO STATES. NO ISSUE THERE.
> GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE GET A CHANCE.

Like I said, a player that was benched!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: other teams ()
Date: October 09, 2015 02:12PM

Love how all the suddenly in vogue teams this year think they have tradition and history. Only Centreville and Westfield can truly pop off and you all know it. LB, SOCO, WS, others do something anything and then talk.....we have been waiting for years.

Lots of talk for many years....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ENOUGH YOU STUPID FUCKSTICKS! ()
Date: October 09, 2015 05:18PM

For the love of God, no one cares to read your silly comments about this dynasty v that amazing program, blah, blah, blah... and we certainly don't want to hear your ramblings about who was better from 10 years ago!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Steve and others like him just want to enjoy some ralk about the games that go on today. The sport of football is great because you can't measure a team's heart, or their coaches' ability to innovate, or a kid who just plain wills his team to victory. Let's talk about the predictions, the possibilities, the rivalrys, and who is going to go all the way... THIS YEAT, hell maybe even next year, and a little talk about last year. Strategy and game plans and the weather and injuries, even the drunks who just had to have at it in beer pong.

But no more silly, childish, name calling and blather about when you played 5 or 10 or 15 years ago.

It is over for has beens like you, or never was. Let the kids play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: October 09, 2015 05:30PM

ENOUGH YOU STUPID FUCKSTICKS! Wrote:
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> But no more silly, childish, name calling

Oh, the irony. Although I do agree. To an extent.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: a fan ()
Date: October 09, 2015 06:18PM

Muran,

I'm still a fan but as you might say, "muran mo recent post no goo compare to his high Standah". This post from a few pages ago is the type of spot-on analysis I hope to read about when I see you've posted to this thread.



Muran Wrote:
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> Muran back round eyes,
> No one be-reeve Sout County gooo team but Muran
> know. Muran know dey gooo for dey have most round
> kicker in whole place. He so big dat he kick ball
> and ball say "Oh no you kick ball soooo hard I fly
> into air soooo high!" Den Sout County get ball
> back and udder team say "we soooo bad at foo-ball"
>
>
> -Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: October 09, 2015 06:59PM

Muran back round-eyes,

Muran go to see Sout Countee fo game and den cloud say NO. It rain sooooooo baaaa dat Muran hear lady round eye in charge of sport say "We go insigh now, no foo-ball tonigh".We pray tonigh!

Game deray until 7:45 fo now round eyes.

-Muran



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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 09, 2015 09:13PM

Centreville sucks

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 09, 2015 10:43PM

Dumbass def coordinator need to coach per wee football. Haddock needs to find a new scheme. Shit don't work with average players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: i believe 2005 ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:06PM

I think that Oakton 2005 is the best team ever in the NR

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am thinking ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:09PM

No probably a toss up between Westfield 2003 and Centreville 2013. Which one do you think is best?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stick fucks ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:11PM

Centreville 2013 or an army of Ditkas.....I say Cville 2013

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Annandale a ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:12PM

Annandale 1992 vs Oakton 2005 - big tossup but I take Annandale

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: versus ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:18PM

Enough you stupid fucksticks vs his wife. I go with the wife. Man up beaaaaachhhh.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: versus 2 ()
Date: October 09, 2015 11:25PM

Enough you stupid fucksticks vs his kids. I go with Eysf since he beats his kids.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 2015 not 2014 ()
Date: October 10, 2015 12:00AM

Scores? Nobody cares about 2014. What happened tonight?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 10, 2015 12:13AM

Annandale (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon
*Annandale wins 41-20.

Briar Woods @ Westfield (-14.0)
*Westfield wins 36-0. Westfield is starting to look very impressive and is getting better each week. I went to this game and Briar Woods is not a bad team by any means. Would have been a more interesting game if not for disastrous starts to each half with a Westfield kick off return and a Briar Woods fumble near the end zone.

Broad Run (-28.0) @ Yorktown
*Broad Run dominates 51-3.

Centreville (-9.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton wins a 28-24 thriller. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Centreville falls to 2-4 and I fall again on their spread.

Edison @ Wakefield (-13.0)
*Wakefield wins 36-18.

Falls Church @ Lee (-7.0)
*Lee wins a close one, 28-27.

Hayfield (-10.0) @ Fairfax
*Hayfield wins 40-20.

Herndon @ South Lakes (-20.0)
*South Lakes won 50-13.

Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)
*Madison won 32-6.

McLean @ Chantilly (-28.0)
*Chantilly won 27-7. Come on Chantilly, it was your homecoming, a win's a win, but should have won by more.

Robinson @ Stone Bridge (-10.0)
*Robinson won 27-20; another strong win for Robinson, could they be a dark horse for the region?

Stuart (-14.0) @ Jefferson
PPD

Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Potomac Falls
*I said before this game "I feel Potomac Falls is the best team that no one is talking about this season." Tuscarora won 21-20, but for Pot Falls to go toe-to-toe with them like that convinces me no one better be sleeping on Pot Falls.

Woodson @ South County (-35.0)
*South County wins 37-7.

Washington-Lee @ Langley (-14.0)
*Washington-Lee wins 23-20 in OT, I botched that one.

West Springfield @ West Potomac (-3.0)
*West Springfield wins 28-9. Not surprised by the outcome, but definitely the score as West Springfield pulled a jekyll and hyde after their horrendous performance against Stone Bridge last week. Great win for the Spartans.

Lake Braddock (-35.0) @ TC Williams
*Saturday

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Game watched ()
Date: October 10, 2015 01:32AM

West Springfield completely outplayed west Potomac, the offense had good run game as well as passing. The secondary played outstanding with 5 turnovers, 4 interceptions and a forced fumble. #87 and #11 made big plays. #6 with solid play. #1 was able to shut down CJ Burch for most of the game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaWatch ()
Date: October 10, 2015 05:05AM

Is it me or is Northern Va really down this year? Broad Run appears to be the only team with chances of winning states. Can't remember the last time I've seen a year where Nova was this down.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yes, it's you ()
Date: October 10, 2015 07:40AM

It's you.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I think lb ()
Date: October 10, 2015 08:22AM

I think the 2009 Lake Braddock team was the best around here

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nufan question ()
Date: October 10, 2015 03:38PM

What would you do to fix wildcats? I agree with you about defense, but what do you see?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Talent ()
Date: October 10, 2015 04:07PM

When every player you have graduates it's hard to recover from especially when you were just more physical than the other teams. Remember cville lost to westfields and struggled with WS last year.

On the contrary I think the region is more interesting this year with they parody. Playoffs will be even better with evenly matched teams in pressure situations. Should be se entertaining football.

Robinson my have a chance to win the Concorde. However westfields defense is just too good. Curios to see how they will do against the pass.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 10, 2015 10:28PM

Cville struggled against West Springfield because of the refs on that game was horrible Also no AJ Turner. They lost to Westfield because of no AJ Turner. Charles tutt also did not play in the second half. And what was the score of the West Springfield game?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like Herndon ()
Date: October 11, 2015 09:58AM

Hornets rule baby, their team in 1997 was the best

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SLHS ()
Date: October 11, 2015 12:18PM

I like Herndon Wrote:
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> Hornets rule baby, their team in 1997 was the best


You take away six touchdowns and a safety and they would have won the Baron Cameron Bowl last Friday night.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jimmy the Greek ()
Date: October 11, 2015 09:14PM

Anybody scoring Steve 2k's predictions... What's his/her Grade at the mid point.. Does he have a better grip on Loudon County now? Give us the goods, getting into some good conference play..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB sucks ()
Date: October 11, 2015 09:18PM

LB was tied at half against TC and didn't win by much. What is going on with them?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 11, 2015 11:46PM

Here are the predictions for this week. This by far has been the toughest week to pick up to this point and I look for a lot of great games this coming Friday.

Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)

Broad Run (-7.5) @ Stone Bridge
*Definitely one of the games of the week. Broad Run comes in undefeated and Stone Bridge is up and down, but nothing would surprise me in this one.

Fairfax @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)
*Coming off a big win, look for the Generals to have another strong performance. Fairfax comes in on a 5 game skid.

Herndon @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville finally ends their 4 game skid and will have no trouble in this one.

Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
*Falls Church comes in on a 5 game skid, TJ currently sits at 0-5 with their game against winless Stuart being played on Monday.

Langley @ Hayfield (-10.0)
*I’m telling you Langley sits at 1-5 but I think they still have a decent shot. If Hayfield takes them lightly an upset would not surprise me here. In fact I’ll put Hayfield on upset alert.

Lee @ Marshall (-15.0)

Mount Vernon @ South County (-42.0)

Oakton (-3.0) @ Chantilly
*Beating Centreville may not be a signature win anymore, but nonetheless it had to feel great for the Cougars who won a thriller last week. Gut check game for Chantilly who needs a win on their home field. Both teams are pretty even and this can go either way. Should be a great Concorde showdown.

Potomac Falls (-6.0) @ Briar Woods
*Briar Woods is the best 1-5 team I have EVER seen in the Northern Region. Their schedule has been crazy, I look for this to be a relatively close game, but Pot Falls is very good too.

South Lakes @ Madison (-1.0)
*This is the regular season conference championship game for the Liberty and another game of the week. I like Madison at home but like a lot of these games it can go either way.

TC Williams @ West Springfield (-21.0)

Tuscarora (40.0) @ Edison

Woodson @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)

Wakefield (-25.0) @ Stuart

Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
*A great Concorde showdown for first place. Both teams are playing very well but I look for Westfield to slow down Robinson’s rushing attack and convert a could big plays.

Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Correction Erection ()
Date: October 12, 2015 12:25AM

Steve,

Briar Woods is actually 2- 5, and yes, they have had to endure a ridiculously difficult schedule. The teams they have lost to are 25-2, and they are the only team to have beaten South Lakes. Ponderous, man....


Tuscarora (Leesburg, VA)
Location: Tuscarora High School
22 - 16Loss

@ South County (Lorton, VA)
Location: South County High School
Box Score
47 - 28Loss

@ South Lakes (Reston, VA)
Location: South Lakes High School
24 - 20Win

West Potomac (Alexandria, VA)
Game Details: Briar Woods High School
Box Score
29 - 27Loss


Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)

31 - 24Loss
10/1
7:00p
Lee (Springfield, VA)
Game Details: Rock Ridge
Box Score
42 - 14Win

@ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School
Box Score
36 - 0Loss
10/16
7:00p
Potomac Falls (Sterling, VA)
Game Details: Briar Woods High School
Preview Game
10/23
7:00p
Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Briar Woods High School
Preview Game
11/6
7:00p
Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Briar Woods High School

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: insanebwschedule ()
Date: October 12, 2015 07:58AM

Correction Erection Wrote:
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> Steve,
>
> Briar Woods is actually 2- 5, and yes, they have
> had to endure a ridiculously difficult schedule.
> The teams they have lost to are 25-2, and they are
> the only team to have beaten South Lakes.

Actually, the teams they have lost to are 28-3:
Tusky 7-0
SoCo 6-0
West Pot 4-2
Broad R 6-0
WestFld 5-1

Throw in SLakes 5-1 and Lee 2-4 and their opponents overall record is 35-8.

And they still have Pot Falls 4-2, Tilly 4-2 and Stone Brdg 3-3.

That's 46-15.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 12, 2015 09:10AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Here are the predictions for this week. This by
> far has been the toughest week to pick up to this
> point and I look for a lot of great games this
> coming Friday.
>
> Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)

West Potomac wins and covers

>
> Broad Run (-7.5) @ Stone Bridge
> *Definitely one of the games of the week. Broad
> Run comes in undefeated and Stone Bridge is up and
> down, but nothing would surprise me in this one.

Broad run wins, but doesn't cover
>
>
> Fairfax @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)
> *Coming off a big win, look for the Generals to
> have another strong performance. Fairfax comes in
> on a 5 game skid.

Just a feeling that Fairfax is due. Take Fairfax and the points
>
> Herndon @ Centreville (-28.0)
> *Centreville finally ends their 4 game skid and
> will have no trouble in this one.

Centreville wins and covers.
>
> Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
> *Falls Church comes in on a 5 game skid, TJ
> currently sits at 0-5 with their game against
> winless Stuart being played on Monday.

Falls Church wins and covers
>
> Langley @ Hayfield (-10.0)
> *I’m telling you Langley sits at 1-5 but I think
> they still have a decent shot. If Hayfield takes
> them lightly an upset would not surprise me here.
> In fact I’ll put Hayfield on upset alert.

Hayfield wins and covers. I agree that Langley isn't as bad as their record indicates, but I think Hayfield's speed makes this a bad match up for Langley. Their loss to WL figures to be deflating.
>
> Lee @ Marshall (-15.0)

Marshall wins and covers. It's nice to see Marshall have some success this season.
>
> Mount Vernon @ South County (-42.0)

Too big of a spread. SC wins, but doesn't cover
>
> Oakton (-3.0) @ Chantilly
> *Beating Centreville may not be a signature win
> anymore, but nonetheless it had to feel great for
> the Cougars who won a thriller last week. Gut
> check game for Chantilly who needs a win on their
> home field. Both teams are pretty even and this
> can go either way. Should be a great Concorde
> showdown.

I think Chantilly wins this one.
>
> Potomac Falls (-6.0) @ Briar Woods
> *Briar Woods is the best 1-5 team I have EVER seen
> in the Northern Region. Their schedule has been
> crazy, I look for this to be a relatively close
> game, but Pot Falls is very good too.

Take Brian Woods if they are getting points.
>
> South Lakes @ Madison (-1.0)
> *This is the regular season conference
> championship game for the Liberty and another game
> of the week. I like Madison at home but like a
> lot of these games it can go either way.

Madison wins and covers. In fact, I think Madison will win this one comfortably. SL is having a good season, and they are much improved over last year, but I think Madison is still the better team.
>
> TC Williams @ West Springfield (-21.0)

West Springfield wins and covers.
>
> Tuscarora (40.0) @ Edison

Tusky wins, but doesn't cover
>
> Woodson @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)

LB wins and covers.
>
> Wakefield (-25.0) @ Stuart

Wakefield wins and covers. The short week won't be good for Stuart
>
> Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
> *A great Concorde showdown for first place. Both
> teams are playing very well but I look for
> Westfield to slow down Robinson’s rushing attack
> and convert a could big plays.

Westfield wins and covers
>
> Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean

Yorktown wins and covers, but barely.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 12, 2015 09:29AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Here are the predictions for this week. This by
> far has been the toughest week to pick up to this
> point and I look for a lot of great games this
> coming Friday.
>
> Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)
> West Po by 10
> Broad Run (-7.5) @ Stone Bridge
> *Broad Run is rolling... I'll take them by a Touchdown
>
>
> Fairfax @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)
> Fairfax is terrible... WL by 10
>
> Herndon @ Centreville (-28.0)
> Centreville isn't very good this year. Good news for them is Herndon is worst. Agree with spread here.
>
> Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
> Terrible game. Fav should win but I would not be shocked to see them blow it.
>
> Langley @ Hayfield (-10.0)
> would have picked Langley before last week's game but they tend to struggle with athletic teams. Hayfield in by a TD
>
> Lee @ Marshall (-15.0)Marshall has improved. Lee is bad. Agree with the spread here.
>
> Mount Vernon @ South County (-42.0)
> SC by 50
> Oakton (-3.0) @ Chantilly
> what a win this would be for Oakton but I think they come up short here. Tilly by 1
>
> Potomac Falls (-6.0) @ Briar Woods
> Pot Falls nearly pulled off the upset last week. I don't think this one slips away. Agree with the spread
>
> South Lakes @ Madison (-1.0)
> SL is certainly improved but they haven't beaten a team with a winning record yet. Madison beats them by 10
>
> TC Williams @ West Springfield (-21.0)
Matthie is another year or two away. Agree with the spread.
>
> Tuscarora (40.0) @ Edison
> this will get ugly quick. Agree with the spread.
> Woodson @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
>
> Wakefield (-25.0) @ Stuart
> Wakefield by 35

> Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
> should be a great one. Westfield by a TD
>
> Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean
McLean has returned to their 0-10 years. Won't win one next year either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: eff ewe all ()
Date: October 12, 2015 12:56PM

what about a bunch of closest fags, bet you fantasize about those boys in their tight pants don't ya

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fball Fan ()
Date: October 12, 2015 07:42PM

Good games this week. I watched the ROBINSON STONE BRIDGE game last week. Looked like two physical teams. I've never seen Stone Bridge pushed around like that. I like the Rams over Westfield this week. Should be a good one.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What? ()
Date: October 12, 2015 08:17PM

Good games this week. I watched the ROBINSON STONE BRIDGE game last week. Looked like two physical teams. I've never seen Stone Bridge pushed around like that. I like the Rams over Westfield this week. Should be a good one.

_______________________________________________________________

Then you should have watched Westfield push Stone Bridge around to the tune of 28-7 two weeks ago!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: October 12, 2015 08:54PM

Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)
West Po by 14.

Broad Run (-7.5) @ Stone Bridge
Broad run. But not by much

Fairfax @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)
Washington Lee covers.

Herndon @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville takes out some pent up frustrations and covers the spread.

Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
*Falls Church covers.

Langley @ Hayfield (-10.0)
*hayfield covers.

Lee @ Marshall (-15.0)
Marshall by 21.

Mount Vernon @ South County (-42.0)
Might not be enough on that one. South county covers that easy.

Oakton (-3.0) @ Chantilly
*Chantilly wins this.

Potomac Falls (-6.0) @ Briar Woods
*Briar Woods gets one. Finally.

South Lakes @ Madison (-1.0)
*Madison wins. Might not cover, though.

TC Williams @ West Springfield (-21.0)
Springfield by 3 TDs. Sounds right.

Tuscarora (40.0) @ Edison
Tusks wins and covers.

Woodson @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
Sounds right. LB continues to roll.

Wakefield (-25.0) @ Stuart
Wake covers.

Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
*Robinson wins this. Upset?

Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean
Sounds about right.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 12, 2015 10:47PM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
> *Robinson wins this. Upset?


If they win it would be a small upset. Westfield is slightly favored based on all metrics including performance against common opponents.

Stone Bridge: Westfield 28-7, Robinson 27-20
Oakton: Westfield 38-7, Robinson 42-17

It should be slugfest for sure. Neither team is exactly lighting it up offensively - Robinson is averaging 31.8 points per game and Westfield 28.7. Defensively Westfield is allowing 9.3 points per game and Robinson 17.8.

Both teams have been in every game - Robinson losing by 1 TD to 6-0 Lake Braddock and 4-2 West Springfield. Westfield lost by 1 TD to 6-0 South County.

That being said this would probably be as good an opportunity for Robinson to get a win against Westfield that they have had in some time. Their last victory against Westfield was in 2010 - a 14-0 shutout.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 5 fan ()
Date: October 12, 2015 10:56PM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 12, 2015 10:47PM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
> *Robinson wins this. Upset?


If they win it would be a small upset. Westfield is slightly favored based on all metrics including performance against common opponents.

Stone Bridge: Westfield 28-7, Robinson 27-20
Oakton: Westfield 38-7, Robinson 42-17

It should be slugfest for sure. Neither team is exactly lighting it up offensively - Robinson is averaging 31.8 points per game and Westfield 28.7. Defensively Westfield is allowing 9.3 points per game and Robinson 17.8.

Both teams have been in every game - Robinson losing by 1 TD to 6-0 Lake Braddock and 4-2 West Springfield. Westfield lost by 1 TD to 6-0 South County.

That being said this would probably be as good an opportunity for Robinson to get a win against Westfield that they have had in some time. Their last victory against Westfield was in 2010 - a 14-0 shutout.

---------------------------------------------------

Not to mention one of Westfield's best players is done for the year. Rumor is #41 has a serious knee injury.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: October 13, 2015 07:33AM

> Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
> *Robinson wins this. Upset?


If they win it would be a small upset. Westfield is slightly favored based on all metrics including performance against common opponents.

Stone Bridge: Westfield 28-7, Robinson 27-20
Oakton: Westfield 38-7, Robinson 42-17

It should be slugfest for sure. Neither team is exactly lighting it up offensively - Robinson is averaging 31.8 points per game and Westfield 28.7. Defensively Westfield is allowing 9.3 points per game and Robinson 17.8.

Both teams have been in every game - Robinson losing by 1 TD to 6-0 Lake Braddock and 4-2 West Springfield. Westfield lost by 1 TD to 6-0 South County.

That being said this would probably be as good an opportunity for Robinson to get a win against Westfield that they have had in some time. Their last victory against Westfield was in 2010 - a 14-0 shutout.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Westfield is favored because they finally have an offense. If anyone saw the game this past Friday against Briar Woods that's what all the preseason hype was about.

The offense moved the ball, return of skill players not only boosted that effort but special teams as well. Now that they have a passing attack that opened up the running game.

Add Westfield's defense and their kicking game into the equation and they have the team that many of the prognosticators were picking in the preseason to be one of the area's top teams.

Their defense has given up 8.3 points per game, the 6 T.C. Williams scored was a pick six. That defense is pretty good, though as the previous post suggests lost one of its best players for the season.

Robinson's offense is run heavy, something Westfield has the ability to shut down. That's also another reason why they're favored to win on Friday.

Should be a good game, both teams always play each other very well and it's typically a close game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield sux ()
Date: October 14, 2015 12:36PM

Eff Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fair Play ()
Date: October 14, 2015 01:39PM

Westfield punished the drunks to the letter of the law. It would have been a better message to those kids to kick them off the team, but everybody wants to win! So, punishing them with something is better than nothing, right?

Well then, what about SC? The rumor is that multiple kids use fake addresses to attend the school, but how could you prove it? Now the word is that there was a big fight between player's on the field that spilled into the locker room. One boy required stitches....what will be done? Isn't that assault? How can they deny a face held together by string? Or will the Coaches call it an accident/part of the game? And, if it spilled into the locker room then what?

I don't have all the info but I have questions: What happened in the aftermath of the fight? What did the head coach do? Were the parents called in? Does the coach have an obligation to notify admin? If your kid got his face busted open at practice by some street thug what would you do? Something must be done!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Street thug? ()
Date: October 14, 2015 03:10PM

Street thug??? Where do some of you prejudice people get your ideas from? Is he street thug because he is a person of color? Why couldn't he just be a student? It's football. It's a violent sport. If something did happen they should be disciplined accordingly. We can't ask them to be physical on the field and then over react when tempers flare.

With that beig said, the wheels started to fall off against w. Springfield. Multiple kids got benched because of poor play. However, after the game SC prayed with WS and conversed with players and coaches in a friendly manner. Stop being so butt hurt because the Concorde can't compare this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Read the post ()
Date: October 14, 2015 03:25PM

Stop being so butt hurt because the Concorde can't compare this year

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Seriously doubt the poster is a Concorde fan, by the way it's Conference 5 now.

Read the post, info like that is from someone close to the team, the kids father who got beat up, or a fan.

I follow high school football and had not heard of this so obviously it's someone in the know.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 14, 2015 03:48PM

Read the post Wrote:
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> Stop being so butt hurt because the Concorde can't
> compare this year
>
> __________________________________________________
> ____________
>
> Seriously doubt the poster is a Concorde fan, by
> the way it's Conference 5 now.
>
> Read the post, info like that is from someone
> close to the team, the kids father who got beat
> up, or a fan.
>
> I follow high school football and had not heard of
> this so obviously it's someone in the know.

and nowhere in that post was skin color referenced.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VmCp3 ()
Date: October 14, 2015 03:53PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bane ()
Date: October 14, 2015 05:22PM

We handle our Discipline in-house, some times you gotta beat a mofo with a mofo to gets your respect, coach Baloney slapped some Cold meat on it to stop the swelling...you will know who we are come Friday when Baloney throws us some more meat!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bane ()
Date: October 14, 2015 09:58PM

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan to shoot our nuts up with roids so we can rage against week opponent on Friday night.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cats Meow ()
Date: October 14, 2015 10:03PM

What we need is Murans take on the Situation, rumor has it he was on the field polishing the Stallions and collecting Cats for this weeks buffet...spill the Beans Muran was it the chubby kicker, kicking deep that started the fight....?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Chubby SoCo Kicker ()
Date: October 14, 2015 10:12PM

I only sit in the corner of the field and practice my 10 yard onside kicks the whole time in order to give our opponents good field position at the 50 yard line.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Where's that Muran guy? ()
Date: October 15, 2015 08:17AM

Muran...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: He is here ()
Date: October 15, 2015 08:45AM

Just one of you guys making up a dual personality because has no life

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 13 ()
Date: October 15, 2015 08:50AM

He is here Wrote:
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> Just one of you guys making up a dual personality
> because has no life


Your mom has a dual personality!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: suran ()
Date: October 15, 2015 02:00PM

my mane is Suran, I am the brotha of Muran, I am not as retarded as my brotha, can I tawk foosball two?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: zuran ()
Date: October 15, 2015 02:04PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The Twins ()
Date: October 15, 2015 02:12PM

SURAN and ZURAN you are welcome to talk whatever you want on this site just as long as you two promise to throw another KEG party before the Play-Offs Start, So we wont have to listen to the SOCO FOLKS CRY When they Lose to LB or WHS...possible Locations, anywhere on Rolling Road or Stonecroft Blvd.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: curan ()
Date: October 15, 2015 02:27PM

IM momma and I nowant my kidz tawking on dis turible site - bunche of meenies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: muran' ()
Date: October 15, 2015 03:33PM

youse a bunzh of cheataz and impostas....i get you i get yu

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 15, 2015 07:32PM

Hype or Legit analysis?

Tyler Scanlon may be becoming a BETTER football player than he is a basketball player...

http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com/members/media/3-things-to-know10-12-2015/

I think they may be on to something. How far would he go if football was his main focus i/o BB?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Double Dribble ()
Date: October 15, 2015 08:33PM

Westfield has had a long list of workman type Quarterbacks who's job is to feed the Talent and not make mistakes...Scanlon has done a very good job of navigating the waters through the Struggles so far this year...he will guide his team to post season play, where his greatest contribution(s) may come catching the Ball...Westfield has the good fortune of utilizing the Regular season to set their Play off Roster...many young men have yet to find their calling..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 16, 2015 07:50AM

Westfield has had a long list of workman type Quarterbacks who's job is to feed the Talent and not make mistakes...Scanlon has done a very good job of navigating the waters through the Struggles so far this year...he will guide his team to post season play, where his greatest contribution(s) may come catching the Ball...Westfield has the good fortune of utilizing the Regular season to set their Play off Roster...many young men have yet to find their calling..

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So true, Westfield has certainly benefited from playing a number of kids this year due to the well documented issues they've had. They always seem to plug players in whenever they need to and not miss much if any. Though I read on VA Preps the other day that the defensive captain was done for the year, I assume they meant Clancy. If so that's a big loss, fortunately defense has been their strength so they should hopefully be okay.

Westfield should be set for a good postseason run but still have some tough regular season games. Regardless of how well their playing or who's now back in uniform 3 of the 4 remaining games will be a test only because there against conference rivals. Hopefully Westfield can stay healthy and out of trouble for the remainder of the season. If so, they should do well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: two things ()
Date: October 16, 2015 01:09PM

Bulldogs are known for two things - dixie cupping and losing when it really counts the last ten years.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: one thing more ()
Date: October 16, 2015 02:42PM

also known for ugly chicks

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DUFFY <this is my spam code!!!! ()
Date: October 16, 2015 02:56PM

one thing more Wrote:
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> also known for ugly chicks


^ this is true. Their cheerleaders are either fat ugly pigs, fat ugly nigs or boobless barbies. It's really gone downhill since I went there. Damn!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: October 16, 2015 08:36PM

I think tonight is Robinson's Homecoming game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: whatutalkingaboutwillis ()
Date: October 16, 2015 09:07PM

Ludwig Wrote:
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> I think tonight is Robinson's Homecoming game.


No it was not the homecoming game. That was three weeks ago.

Robinson did lose to Westfield 3-0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ludwig ()
Date: October 16, 2015 09:25PM

whatutalkingaboutwillis Wrote:
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> Ludwig Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think tonight is Robinson's Homecoming game.
>
>
> No it was not the homecoming game. That was three
> weeks ago.
>
> Robinson did lose to Westfield 3-0


ok

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Close one ()
Date: October 16, 2015 10:59PM

Although Robinson lost to Westfield 3-0, the game was completely the other way around. Robinson had the ball in scoring position 3 times but killed themselves with penalties and mistakes. Westfield is good, but Robinson is just as good if not better. There is a definite dark horse this year and it's Robinson. They play amazing defense and are tough as hell. Can't wait to see them make a play off run - if these two teams play again, Robinson will will 14-0.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 16, 2015 11:16PM

Ah, yes, very evenly matched teams no doubt. I'm sure Westfield fans are wondering how Robinson has 3 losses and Robinson fans are wondering how Westfield has 6 wins.

No one will want to face Robinson in the playoffs. That is one heck of a defense.

But I wouldn't be so sure Robinson gets past Westfield in a re-match. Westfield had a couple of turnovers in the red zone and pretty much shut down their offense after they took the 3-0 lead. Despite great field position Robinson did not even sniff FG territory on their final two possessions.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You're an idiot ()
Date: October 16, 2015 11:20PM

Although Robinson lost to Westfield 3-0, the game was completely the other way around. Robinson had the ball in scoring position 3 times but killed themselves with penalties and mistakes. Westfield is good, but Robinson is just as good if not better. There is a definite dark horse this year and it's Robinson. They play amazing defense and are tough as hell. Can't wait to see them make a play off run - if these two teams play again, Robinson will will 14-0.

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You're kidding, right? Robinson was only kept in the game due to the continued ineptitude of the Westfield signal callers. A week after finally opening the offense against Briar Woods Westfield didn't take advantage of Robinson's undersized defense.

When your recievers are as tall as Westfields and you're facing single coverage with small DB's you air it out. Didn't happen, Westfield went back to being predictable. Robinson blitzed on most downs, Westfield should have made them pay.

You want to talk about blown opportunities, first and goal inside the 5 and Westfield fumbles. First drive Westfield throws an interception in the end zone. Robinson was very fortunate that Westfield allowed them to hang around.

Robinson cannot throw the ball, basically one dimensional, good luck with that offense in the post season. Westfields defense has now only allowed 50 points in 7 games. The 6 T.C Williams scored was on an INT return for a TD.

These two teams play again it Westfield wins. Robinson better than Westfield, that's pretty funny.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sleep ()
Date: October 16, 2015 11:30PM

One thing can be sure - Westfield is not the "contender" they claim
To be. I wouldn't count Robinson out just yet.. Westfield shot themselves in the foot but so did Robinson, 2 touchdowns given up by stupid mistakes infact.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 17, 2015 02:50AM

Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)
*West Potomac won 54-30.

Broad Run (-7.5) @ Stone Bridge
*Stone Bridge won 27-13. The Bulldogs have to be one of the most up and down teams in the region. There downs are not bad performances though, and this team can beat just about anyone on a good night. As with a lot of the teams in the Loudoun-Fairfax showdowns this year, this is the toughest schedule Stone Bridge has ever had. They are no longer in the cupcake former Liberty and are now playing great teams each and every week. Stone Bridge has a great shot at winning the 5A Northern Region, as does Broad Run who shot themselves in the foot not capitalizing on 3 possessions inside the red zone.

Fairfax @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)
*Washington-Lee won 35-14.

Herndon @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville won 38-20. The 18 point win could be considered another poor performance. After all Herndon was the same team that trailed Chantilly 42-0 after the first quarter. Interestingly Centreville finishes with the top 3 Concorde teams on their schedule: Westfield, Robinson, Chantilly, and we’ll see how it plays out but I think they are underdogs in all 3. While they graduated so much talent, it’s hard to watch a perennial 10+ win team drop so far in one year and I didn’t see it happening.

Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
*Falls Church won 70-7.

Langley @ Hayfield (-10.0)
*Hayfield won 39-21.

Lee @ Marshall (-15.0)
*Marshall won 49-6. Marshall with their second blow out win and TJ and Stuart still on the schedule which will likely be uglier spreads, good for them. The regular season conference championship is on the line next Friday when they travel to Wakefield.

Mount Vernon @ South County (-42.0)
*South County won 55-6.

Oakton (-3.0) @ Chantilly
*Chantilly turns in their best performance of the year winning 28-6. The Chargers are a dangerous group who have only lost to Robinson and Stone Bridge in close games. Chantilly will be a scary matchup for any 6A school in the playoffs and are capable of making a run of their own.

Potomac Falls (-6.0) @ Briar Woods
*Potomac Falls won 17-0

South Lakes @ Madison (-1.0)
*Madison won 38-6. To your guys credit, many said my spread was too close here. I am surprised though, at the way Madison dominated South Lakes.

TC Williams @ West Springfield (-21.0)
*West Springfield won 14-12. West Springfield is definitely inconsistent this season.

Tuscarora (40.0) @ Edison
*Tuscarora won 34-6.

Woodson @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Lake Braddock won 61-0.

Wakefield (-25.0) @ Stuart
*Wakefield won 49-0.

Westfield (-10.0) @ Robinson
*Westfield won 3-0. I actually agree with “you’re kidding” here on this one. The way to beat Robinson is through the air and with Westfield’s size at receiver they needed to throw it more. Westfield was stubborn trying to run the ball and Robinson has a great run stopping defense and defensive line that gets after the QB every play. I also agree that while Robinson probably did get more yards in the game, it’s incredibly hard to win in the playoffs running the ball every time as Robinson does. Westfield at the very least can clearly contain it as did Lake Braddock who led 21-0 late in the 4th quarter against Robinson. That being said Robinson is very strong, take nothing away from them, and the posters above are right that they are a contender. Despite my doubts there is something to be said about controlling tempo and Robinson has shown they can stay in games and beat great teams. I was shocked by the 3-0 score. In high school football I cannot recall many games where you do not see multiple touchdowns and with the talent both of these offenses have, it is a real testament to the defenses last night.

Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean
*Yorktown won 21-20. I am convinced McLean has gotten better over the course of the season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 17, 2015 09:36AM

There is a lot of football to be played yet but the final weekend of the season is shaping up to have a few conference championships on the line. We could very well see a decisive match-up in the final game for:

Patriot Conference 7: 9-0 South County vs. 9-0 Lake Braddock
Concorde Conference 5: 7-2 Chantilly vs. 8-1 Westfield
Liberty Conference 6: 8-1 Madison vs 7-2 Hayfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 17, 2015 10:18AM

Great week of football...

Stone Bridge pulled off the minor upset and proves that nobody is safe in Loudoun.

Pot Falls with the shutout of Briar Woods. Hard to imagine that just a few years ago, Briar Woods was winning their 3rd straight State title while Potomac Falls was struggling to win 3 or 4 games.

Marshall closing in on a conference title??? When was the last time you heard that? Unfortunate for them, I think Wakefield will have something to say about that.

If Robinson had any type of pass game, they would be dangerous. Their lack of versatility will cost them down the stretch.

My two dark horses going into the season were Chantilly and Madison. Chantilly is a real threat to anyone in the region. Kudos to Lalli! It seems that he's on the hot seat every year.

Madison exposes South Lakes a bit... Don't get me wrong, the Seahawks are much improved but they benefited from a cake schedule in the front half. Madison looks to have a clear path to the conference championship unless Hayfield can ruin those plans.

Hayfield has the firepower to compete with Madison and that could be a huge game going down the stretch. Hayfield thoroughly handled a Langley team that gave Madison all kinds of fits.

Lake Braddock will go 10-0. I think there just a tad bit better than South County. West Springfield and West Potomac just haven't been consistent enough this year.

With a new principal and a new AD look for Mount Vernon take make some changes to their football program after this season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Magic 8-ball ()
Date: October 17, 2015 10:40AM

Sometimes you have to win Ugly in spite of your teams Horrendous play calling...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Get over it ()
Date: October 17, 2015 10:54AM

Sleep Wrote:
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> One thing can be sure - Westfield is not the
> "contender" they claim
> To be. I wouldn't count Robinson out just yet..
> Westfield shot themselves in the foot but so did
> Robinson, 2 touchdowns given up by stupid mistakes
> infact.


Westfield is not claiming to be a contender...It's people posting anonymously on this board claiming WF is a contender. And to their credit, WF IS a contender if you've paid attention to any HS football this year.

Sorry to hear your Wildcats aren't doing so hot this year...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballhistorian ()
Date: October 17, 2015 12:43PM

That was the lowest combined scoring game in Westfield history. But a win is a win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: October 17, 2015 01:49PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Annandale @ West Potomac (-7.0)
> *West Potomac won 54-30.

Your spread was actually pretty accurate in terms of the competitiveness of the game, but West Po scored three touchdowns in the last six minutes to rack up a big margin of victory. Annandale is one of those teams that does quasi-onside kickoffs that work twice a season and give the other team great field position the other fifty times, it is my least favorite trend in high school football.

> Jefferson @ Falls Church (-14.0)
> *Falls Church won 70-7.

2015 TJ versus 2012 Wakefield, who wins?

> Yorktown (-21.0) @ McLean
> *Yorktown won 21-20. I am convinced McLean has
> gotten better over the course of the season.


They had a tough schedule their first six games. Yorktown is down this season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 17, 2015 03:12PM

Coach Simmons discusses the Robinson game at 9:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp-w8MW7cRA

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rolling road ()
Date: October 17, 2015 04:53PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> There is a lot of football to be played yet but
> the final weekend of the season is shaping up to
> have a few conference championships on the line.
> We could very well see a decisive match-up in the
> final game for:
>
> Patriot Conference 7: 9-0 South County
> vs. 9-0 Lake Braddock
> Concorde Conference 5: 7-2 Chantilly vs.
> 8-1 Westfield
> Liberty Conference 6: 8-1 Madison vs
> 7-2 Hayfield

West Springfield will beat LB decisively.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rocky Road ()
Date: October 17, 2015 07:28PM

I like my ice cream that way

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VAHSSports ()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:35AM

Westfield Defense is very solid, never been a secret. But did you guys see what That Chantilly defense did to that Oakton offense? Oakton never had anything going Offensively all night. Chantilly Front 7 lead by Hozey Haji-Badri (D1 football player) and Chris Eastman is very dangerous. Here comes Chantilly...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CPeHP ()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:48AM

VAHSSports Wrote:
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> Westfield Defense is very solid, never been a
> secret. But did you guys see what That Chantilly
> defense did to that Oakton offense? Oakton never
> had anything going Offensively all night.
> Chantilly Front 7 lead by Hozey Haji-Badri (D1
> football player) and Chris Eastman is very
> dangerous. Here comes Chantilly...


up at 2am talking about young boys? pedo much?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: calpreps ()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:41PM

I was taking a look at calpreps Top 100 high school football teams in the US. According to their ranking system the top 100 come from the below states:

TX – 17
CA –13
OH – 10
FL – 8
IN – 6
GA – 4
AR – 4
AZ – 4
AL – 3
NJ – 3
SC – 3
TN – 3
DC – 2
IL – 2
KY – 2
MD – 2
MO – 2
MS – 2
OK – 2
WA – 2
CO, LA, MI, NV, UT, VA – 1

I find their ranking system curious because there is no possible way there can be 10 teams from OH before there is one from PA. That's absurd. TX, CA, FL only make sense, but is football in IN really that good?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS Football Fan ()
Date: October 18, 2015 06:03PM

My son plays for Centreville, but we are moving to Loudoun next year (for many reasons, please don't bash me here!)
I want to spend some time on the Loudoun schools not only because my son will be attending one of them next year, but because they top Loudoun schools will all be playing the same schedule next year, so these great match-ups that we have been seeing will take place again next year.
Yes, we all know by now that Centreville is not very good this year, but the teams from Loudoun have been very, very impressive, even though everyone that I have talked to from Loudoun tells me over and over that the top 4 teams in Loudoun are all down compared to year's past. I saw Tuscarora and have to agree, even though the will finish another regular season undefeated if they can get past Stone Bridge (no small task!). Broad Run looks better and ran into a big and strong rival that outmuscled them. Went to the Broad Run-Stone Bridge game to get a flavor of those schools as I incorrectly assumed that Centreville would blow out Herndon! Broad Run got whipped up pretty good, but did move the ball three times inside the SB 15 and came away empty. They are very fast and very athletic, however, and are loaded with juniors at key spots. BR also lost their top two players for most of the game. Not saying it would have changed the outcome, but these are clearly two of the top d5 teams in the state.Jason Hatcher's kid is also going to be a damn good player if he returns there next year. Stone Bridge has this Old Dominion commit who is like 320 pounds and athletic. They will be tough to spot, as Chantilly found out. I was told that they were tied with Westfield twhen SB QB went down (coach's kid, great player).
Now, Briar Woods. That is another story. Was consideirng that school, but a lot has gone on there over the past couple of seasons. They might finish 2-8 and incredibly not make the playoffs. This despite good chances to beat Tuscarora, Broad Run, West Potomac. Sometimes close games go against you early, and it just sort of steamrolls you all season.
Anyway, if anyone has information on these schools, as well as Woodgrove and Champe (two threats to win D4 states), please share them with me. I would love to get some skinny on these schools. Bad news for those Arlington and fairfax schools that draw these teams again next year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: October 18, 2015 07:15PM

Nearly all of the OH top 10 are Catholics. They've all been powers forever. It's nearly the same list it was 40 years ago when I was a kid.

And, to make things truly ridiculous, the Catholics are mixed in with the publics for States.



calpreps Wrote:
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> I was taking a look at calpreps Top 100 high
> school football teams in the US. According to
> their ranking system the top 100 come from the
> below states:
>
> TX – 17
> CA –13
> OH – 10
> FL – 8
> IN – 6
> GA – 4
> AR – 4
> AZ – 4
> AL – 3
> NJ – 3
> SC – 3
> TN – 3
> DC – 2
> IL – 2
> KY – 2
> MD – 2
> MO – 2
> MS – 2
> OK – 2
> WA – 2
> CO, LA, MI, NV, UT, VA – 1
>
> I find their ranking system curious because there
> is no possible way there can be 10 teams from OH
> before there is one from PA. That's absurd. TX,
> CA, FL only make sense, but is football in IN
> really that good?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Kreskin ()
Date: October 18, 2015 09:12PM

My son plays for Centreville, but we are moving to Loudoun next year (for many reasons, please don't bash me here!)
I want to spend some time on the Loudoun schools not only because my son will be attending one of them next year, but because they top Loudoun schools will all be playing the same schedule next year, so these great match-ups that we have been seeing will take place again next year.
Yes, we all know by now that Centreville is not very good this year, but the teams from Loudoun have been very, very impressive, even though everyone that I have talked to from Loudoun tells me over and over that the top 4 teams in Loudoun are all down compared to year's past. I saw Tuscarora and have to agree, even though the will finish another regular season undefeated if they can get past Stone Bridge (no small task!). Broad Run looks better and ran into a big and strong rival that outmuscled them. Went to the Broad Run-Stone Bridge game to get a flavor of those schools as I incorrectly assumed that Centreville would blow out Herndon! Broad Run got whipped up pretty good, but did move the ball three times inside the SB 15 and came away empty. They are very fast and very athletic, however, and are loaded with juniors at key spots. BR also lost their top two players for most of the game. Not saying it would have changed the outcome, but these are clearly two of the top d5 teams in the state.Jason Hatcher's kid is also going to be a damn good player if he returns there next year. Stone Bridge has this Old Dominion commit who is like 320 pounds and athletic. They will be tough to spot, as Chantilly found out. I was told that they were tied with Westfield twhen SB QB went down (coach's kid, great player).
Now, Briar Woods. That is another story. Was consideirng that school, but a lot has gone on there over the past couple of seasons. They might finish 2-8 and incredibly not make the playoffs. This despite good chances to beat Tuscarora, Broad Run, West Potomac. Sometimes close games go against you early, and it just sort of steamrolls you all season.
Anyway, if anyone has information on these schools, as well as Woodgrove and Champe (two threats to win D4 states), please share them with me. I would love to get some skinny on these schools. Bad news for those Arlington and fairfax schools that draw these teams again next year!

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So who is your kid....after all that you have to tell.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: easy to leave ()
Date: October 18, 2015 09:33PM

Always easy to leave when things go bad and get tough for a year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: calpreps ()
Date: October 18, 2015 10:12PM

WestfieldDad Wrote:
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> And, to make things truly ridiculous, the
> Catholics are mixed in with the publics for
> States.

Same deal in PA. I'm just saying even so that can't be right.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach K ()
Date: October 18, 2015 11:04PM

WestfieldDad Wrote:
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> Nearly all of the OH top 10 are Catholics.
> They've all been powers forever. It's nearly the
> same list it was 40 years ago when I was a kid.
>
> And, to make things truly ridiculous, the
> Catholics are mixed in with the publics for
> States.
>
>

That will happen in VA soon enough now that private schools that recruit can join the VHSL. VA's public schools will be at a distinct disadvantage as more and more privates join.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Separation of Church and State ()
Date: October 19, 2015 09:09AM

Coach K Wrote:
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> WestfieldDad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nearly all of the OH top 10 are Catholics.
> > They've all been powers forever. It's nearly
> the
> > same list it was 40 years ago when I was a kid.
> >
> > And, to make things truly ridiculous, the
> > Catholics are mixed in with the publics for
> > States.
> >
> >
>
> That will happen in VA soon enough now that
> private schools that recruit can join the VHSL.
> VA's public schools will be at a distinct
> disadvantage as more and more privates join.


It doesn't have to be that way. Texas has never co-mingled privates and publics. Seems to be a push by the school voucher crowd to have them play each other.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 19, 2015 09:57AM

Updated 6A North Standings:

6A North
South County (227) 32.43
Lake Braddock (223) 31.86
Westfield (211) 30.14
Madison (205) 29.29
West Springfield (197) 28.14
Battlefield (223) 27.88
Robinson (189) 27.00
South Lakes (188) 26.86
West Potomac (188) 26.86
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Hayfield (185) 26.43
Chantilly (180) 25.71
Oakton (178) 25.43
Centreville (170) 24.29
Annandale (167) 23.86
Yorktown (166) 23.71
Washington-Lee (157) 22.43
=================
T.C. Williams (153) 21.86
Osbourn (173) 21.63
Patriot (147) 21.00
Herndon (147) 21.00
Mount Vernon (144) 20.57
W.T. Woodson (144) 20.57
Langley (140) 20.00
Fairfax (130) 18.57
McLean (128) 18.29
Osbourn Park (126) 18.00
Stonewall Jackson (143) 17.88

Teams above the double line would be in, if the season ended today. Teams above the single line get the first round home game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SC LB ()
Date: October 19, 2015 12:26PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> Updated 6A North Standings:
>
> 6A North
> South County (227) 32.43
> Lake Braddock (223) 31.86
> Westfield (211) 30.14
> Madison (205) 29.29
> West Springfield (197) 28.14
> Battlefield (223) 27.88
> Robinson (189) 27.00
> South Lakes (188) 26.86
> West Potomac (188) 26.86
> ----------------
> Hayfield (185) 26.43
> Chantilly (180) 25.71
> Oakton (178) 25.43
> Centreville (170) 24.29
> Annandale (167) 23.86
> Yorktown (166) 23.71
> Washington-Lee (157) 22.43
> =================
> T.C. Williams (153) 21.86
> Osbourn (173) 21.63
> Patriot (147) 21.00
> Herndon (147) 21.00
> Mount Vernon (144) 20.57
> W.T. Woodson (144) 20.57
> Langley (140) 20.00
> Fairfax (130) 18.57
> McLean (128) 18.29
> Osbourn Park (126) 18.00
> Stonewall Jackson (143) 17.88
>
> Teams above the double line would be in, if the
> season ended today. Teams above the single line
> get the first round home game.

There are a number of good teams on this list. Looks the the Soco vs. LB game week ten is going to be for all the marbles for the #1 spot!! Looked at both schedules, and they look to both be 9-0 going into that game.

What are everyone's thoughts on this game? Try to keep the bashing of both teams to a minimum at the start if you can!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde Fan ()
Date: October 19, 2015 12:48PM

Lake Braddock has South County's number for some reason. LB will win in the regular season, but both schools will lose to someone else in the region playoffs. They just don't improve as the season goes like some of the other contenders.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Winter is coming ()
Date: October 19, 2015 12:58PM

Concorde Fan Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock has South County's number for some
> reason. LB will win in the regular season, but
> both schools will lose to someone else in the
> region playoffs. They just don't improve as the
> season goes like some of the other contenders.

It will be interesting. SC is bad in pass defense rendering 62 points to LB last year mostly through the air and WS scored 6 TD's through the air when they played this season. However LB has been heavy run formation team this season which benefits SC. We'll see if LB gets by WS. They struggled with them both times last year and both teams seem to be returning a lot of starters. Remaining games should be interesting. With WEstfields defense I would consider them slight favs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 19, 2015 12:59PM

Have to give a slight edge to LB. Their offense is nearly as high scoring as SoCo (LB 40.1 pts/game vs. SoCo 45.6 pts/game). But their defense has been way better (LB 7.7 pts/game vs. SoCo 18.7 pts/game). In fact, Lake Braddock has allowed fewer points so far this season than Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 19, 2015 01:09PM

While speculation on the top spot is fun, I think speculating on the bubble teams is more interesting

Look at Yorktown and WL, currently occupying the 15 and 16 slots. They play each other in three weeks in a game that is likely loser go home. This week, Yorktown has a tough assignment against Hayfield, and WL is facing an improving McLean.

The situation in PWC is also interesting. It hasn't gotten much coverage, but the five conference 8 teams were only 7-23 outside of conference play, with Battlefield being clearly the strongest. Now that they are playing each other, they are starting to get some wins. The winner of Patriot and Osbourn could find themselves in the playoffs.

Finally, look at Centreville. They are currently at #13, with Westfield, Chantilly, and Robinson left. Is the unthinkable possible, that they would miss the playoffs altogether?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Interesting ()
Date: October 19, 2015 02:11PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> While speculation on the top spot is fun, I think
> speculating on the bubble teams is more
> interesting
>
> Look at Yorktown and WL, currently occupying the
> 15 and 16 slots. They play each other in three
> weeks in a game that is likely loser go home.
> This week, Yorktown has a tough assignment against
> Hayfield, and WL is facing an improving McLean.
>
> The situation in PWC is also interesting. It
> hasn't gotten much coverage, but the five
> conference 8 teams were only 7-23 outside of
> conference play, with Battlefield being clearly
> the strongest. Now that they are playing each
> other, they are starting to get some wins. The
> winner of Patriot and Osbourn could find
> themselves in the playoffs.
>
> Finally, look at Centreville. They are currently
> at #13, with Westfield, Chantilly, and Robinson
> left. Is the unthinkable possible, that they
> would miss the playoffs altogether?

I find your perspective interesting. However, I don't think Centreville has the man power to make the playoffs this year. Westfield and Robinson have the defenses to make it far, but their predictable offenses will cost them in the long run. I don't think any PWC schools have the talent to make it deep into the playoffs, they just don't compete with the top NR teams.

A team like WS could be a surprise if they compete or even beat LB this week, but they are so dependent on their QB if he were to go down, they would be in some serious trouble. I've watched both Soco and LB, and the talent Soco has out matches the talent LB has. Also, have to keep in mind that Soco has had their starting QB only three games this year, that impresses me from a fan perspective.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SCRABBLE ()
Date: October 19, 2015 02:33PM

The Pairings will be interesting, Robinson stays at a #5 or #6 seed and unless the #1 seed gets knocked off early, they will pull Robinson week 2 or 3 of Paly-offs and that spells Trouble. Chantilly, still has one of the most Dynamic offenses in the Mix and they are clearly capable of knocking off a 4-8 seed if they stay in the bottom half. Hard to look at the South lakes, Madisons, and believe that they stay in the top #8, if they do, lower seeds move to the next week. Battlefield will fall first round, look for Centreville to lose 2 of next 3 and NOT make play-offs, although a #16 seed would provide for an interesting first round game for Someone. Look for T.C. to move up Yorktown, W&L and Centreville to fight for #16.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 19, 2015 03:06PM

SCRABBLE Wrote:
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> The Pairings will be interesting, Robinson stays
> at a #5 or #6 seed and unless the #1 seed gets
> knocked off early, they will pull Robinson week 2
> or 3 of Paly-offs and that spells Trouble.
> Chantilly, still has one of the most Dynamic
> offenses in the Mix and they are clearly capable
> of knocking off a 4-8 seed if they stay in the
> bottom half. Hard to look at the South lakes,
> Madisons, and believe that they stay in the top
> #8, if they do, lower seeds move to the next week.
> Battlefield will fall first round, look for
> Centreville to lose 2 of next 3 and NOT make
> play-offs, although a #16 seed would provide for
> an interesting first round game for Someone. Look
> for T.C. to move up Yorktown, W&L and Centreville
> to fight for #16.

I can see Madison staying in the top 8. They have Fairfax, WL, and Hayfield, and only Hayfield would be a tough game (and they get Hayfield at home). South Lakes is home v. Langley, @ Hayfield, and home v. Fairfax. The Langley game isn't a gimme for them, because I think Langley is better than their record indicates.

TCW closes out the season home v. Woodson. Prior to that, they are home v. West Potomac, and @ Annandale. I'd think they would be favored against Woodson, but underdogs to West Po and Annandale.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who? ()
Date: October 19, 2015 06:50PM

SCRABBLE Wrote:
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> The Pairings will be interesting, Robinson stays
> at a #5 or #6 seed and unless the #1 seed gets
> knocked off early, they will pull Robinson week 2
> or 3 of Paly-offs and that spells Trouble.
> Chantilly, still has one of the most Dynamic
> offenses in the Mix and they are clearly capable
> of knocking off a 4-8 seed if they stay in the
> bottom half. Hard to look at the South lakes,
> Madisons, and believe that they stay in the top
> #8, if they do, lower seeds move to the next week.
> Battlefield will fall first round, look for
> Centreville to lose 2 of next 3 and NOT make
> play-offs, although a #16 seed would provide for
> an interesting first round game for Someone. Look
> for T.C. to move up Yorktown, W&L and Centreville
> to fight for #16.


Sorry I'm not completely understanding.. Are you saying that it would spell trouble for Robinson? Or that Robinson may give some trouble week 2-3 in the playoffs to a high seed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scrabble yahtzee ()
Date: October 19, 2015 09:30PM

I am saying Robinson will be an issue for other teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hmmmm ()
Date: October 20, 2015 02:58AM

Cville probably loses out and finishes 3-7. Only chance for a win is Chantilly, and that would require all sorts of shit happening. However, their 3-7 will still be right on the bubble of the playoffs due to their tough schedule. Then it is a one and done first round.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 20, 2015 09:51AM

Hmmmm Wrote:
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> Cville probably loses out and finishes 3-7. Only
> chance for a win is Chantilly, and that would
> require all sorts of shit happening. However,
> their 3-7 will still be right on the bubble of the
> playoffs due to their tough schedule. Then it is a
> one and done first round.

Your comment about a 3-7 record possibly making the playoffs this year is so true. That's a function of a tough schedule, but even more so, a function of how poorly the region as a whole has performed in non-region games. It's a contrast to last year, when a couple of 5-5 teams finished short of the playoffs. This year, I'd expect every single 5-5 team to make the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR Scheduling ()
Date: October 20, 2015 10:18AM

It's also a function on the scheduling system that punished teams for being successful in previous years. The strong programs were forced to play very tough schedules which caused them to lose 1 or 2 more games than they normally would. Compare Centreville's, Robinson's, and Oakton's schedules versus last years schedule and you will see why D6 has fewer wins.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: October 20, 2015 11:03AM

Hmmmm Wrote:
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> Cville probably loses out and finishes 3-7. Only
> chance for a win is Chantilly, and that would
> require all sorts of shit happening. However,
> their 3-7 will still be right on the bubble of the
> playoffs due to their tough schedule. Then it is a
> one and done first round.

I'm just saying there is no way Centreville finishes 3-7. No way. Too much talent for that to happen. They could upset Westfield this Friday in fact - Westfield's offense worse than Centreville's that is for sure.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Can'truntheball ()
Date: October 20, 2015 11:20AM

Westfield is so weak at running the football it will be tough for them to win a championship. But Cats have had trouble stopping anyone so far this year, so Westfield will score some points. However, the real question is can Cville, a decent offense, almost a 400 yds per game average, get on the scoreboard against that Westfield defense? With the rivalry emotion this could be a lot better game then people expect.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 6 parent ()
Date: October 20, 2015 11:33AM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> While speculation on the top spot is fun, I think
> speculating on the bubble teams is more
> interesting
>
> Look at Yorktown and WL, currently occupying the
> 15 and 16 slots. They play each other in three
> weeks in a game that is likely loser go home.
> This week, Yorktown has a tough assignment against
> Hayfield, and WL is facing an improving McLean.
>
> The situation in PWC is also interesting. It
> hasn't gotten much coverage, but the five
> conference 8 teams were only 7-23 outside of
> conference play, with Battlefield being clearly
> the strongest. Now that they are playing each
> other, they are starting to get some wins. The
> winner of Patriot and Osbourn could find
> themselves in the playoffs.
>
> Finally, look at Centreville. They are currently
> at #13, with Westfield, Chantilly, and Robinson
> left. Is the unthinkable possible, that they
> would miss the playoffs altogether?

Should be an exciting matchup between W-L and Yorktown especially if its for a playoff spot. It's the classic high school rivalry game and the small Yorktown stadium will be packed. McLean and Langley is the other end of season conf 6 rivalry matchup. Great games ahead for rivalry week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I like football ()
Date: October 20, 2015 04:09PM

do you like it?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really? W-L and Yorktown? ()
Date: October 20, 2015 08:09PM

How can you in good conscience tout this game?

Yorktown got beat by a D5 school 51-3 just two weeks ago, and W-L lost to Wakefield, who is also terrible.

Face it - the Arlington schools are simply horrible... poor coaching and not enough big kids to block for the few good athletes behind them.

I mean, I have seen all three play and they are garbage.

Not quite as bad as Fairfax's trip of Jefferson, Stuart, and Lee, but you get the picture.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football703 ()
Date: October 21, 2015 07:38AM

Where is Steve k2 with his spreads

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stevek'2' ()
Date: October 21, 2015 08:08AM

I am taking a shit leave me alone

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hard on the eyes ()
Date: October 21, 2015 11:00AM

What's up with braddocks new offense? That shit his hard to watch. I thought their qb was one of their better players. He's a bonafide fullback now.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pop Warner ()
Date: October 21, 2015 12:24PM

Hard on the eyes Wrote:
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> What's up with braddocks new offense? That shit
> his hard to watch. I thought their qb was one of
> their better players. He's a bonafide fullback
> now.


They want to go single wing without the commitment to going single wing. It's more than just a formation. It's a mindset.

The way they run it, it's what the NFL would call a Wildcat formation.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver ()
Date: October 21, 2015 12:27PM

Can'truntheball Wrote:
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> Westfield is so weak at running the football it
> will be tough for them to win a championship.

Westfield has had 8 different players getting significant carries in their first 7 games. Chung, Chapman-Greene, Beard, Montique, James and Johnson have all had the most carries in at least 1 game. Rivers and Clancy also had games with 5 or more carries. Their running game is just flat out subpar this season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 21, 2015 12:47PM

Can'truntheball Wrote:
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> Westfield is so weak at running the football it
> will be tough for them to win a championship.

Westfield has had 8 different players getting significant carries in their first 7 games. Chung, Chapman-Greene, Beard, Montique, James and Johnson have all had the most carries in at least 1 game. Rivers and Clancy also had games with 5 or more carries. Their running game is just flat out subpar this season.

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Montique and Johnson are their best bets, then Chapman-Greene and James. The problem with Westfield isn't their running game, it's the horrific offensive line.

Not sure about Rivers but Clancy was used primarily as a blocking FB and TE. Guess Westfield was looking for some spark to offense when suspended players were out.

So the suspended players now are now back but Clancy is done for the year with a knee injury. Appeared in the Oakton game he got hurt carrying the ball, Washington Post said season ending injury.

Doesn't matter who's carrying the ball, or under center, if the O-line doesn't improve that will be Westfield's downfall. They certainly have skill players, special teams, and a tremendous defense, just no blocking.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield sux ()
Date: October 21, 2015 01:50PM

Westfield already crumbling under the expectations like usual. I am DEFINITELY not a Centreville fan but would not be surprised if Centreville wins this week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concorde observation post ()
Date: October 21, 2015 02:04PM

Yes for all the talk I think Westfield, Lake Braddock, and South County (the supposed North front runners this year) are all flawed. None of them as collectively strong as the Centreville teams of the past few years. Whomever wins will get blasted by the cheating All Star Team called Ocean Lakes. Just saying...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: present tense ()
Date: October 21, 2015 02:47PM

flawed in the present Centerville living in the past- so sad!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:06PM

Westfield already crumbling under the expectations like usual. I am DEFINITELY not a Centreville fan but would not be surprised if Centreville wins this week.

_________________________________________________________________________

Not sure you could say crumble, either present or past. The past 2 seasons Centreville was definitely the team to beat, loaded with talent. Their record this season speaks volumes to back that up.

Previous to that Westfield didn't crumble, just got outcoached and outplayed. The thing everyone forgets is their losses have been to some pretty good Concorde teams. So crumble might be an over-exaggerated term.

What is certainly true is that regardless of what the expectations were, Westfield has done pretty well considering the off field issues. Only problem as I stated in previous post is their O-line is not very good. Doesn't matter whether it's a beach school or local team, can't win if you can't score, can't score if you can't block.

And yes, I agree, would not be surprised at all if Centreville won this game. Watched Westfield players celebrating last week after Robinson game like they had won more than just a regular season game. I mean, did anyone of them look at the score, that wasn't anything to celebrate!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wake up ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:16PM

As bad as Westfield's offense is, Centerville is just plain awful-- 7 games 20 fumbles

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield BIlls ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:24PM

I am not a Centreville fan, I root for another NR team but Westfield definitely has a Bills thing going....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what is really sorry ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:29PM

Agree. What is really sorry is that every time someone pokes at Westfield they immediately think it is a Centreville fan. Assume there are a fair amount of those here too but I know (because I am a Westfield poker) that there are others of us that have nothing to do with Centreville. Sanctimonious Westfield fans always talking about consistency and the like but have to admit they fail to show up in the real big games at the ends of seasons. Sorry just the facts.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: October 21, 2015 04:12PM

Really? W-L and Yorktown? Wrote:
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> How can you in good conscience tout this game?
>
> Yorktown got beat by a D5 school 51-3 just two
> weeks ago, and W-L lost to Wakefield, who is also
> terrible.
>
> Face it - the Arlington schools are simply
> horrible... poor coaching and not enough big kids
> to block for the few good athletes behind them.
>
> I mean, I have seen all three play and they are
> garbage.
>
> Not quite as bad as Fairfax's trip of Jefferson,
> Stuart, and Lee, but you get the picture.

I have to partially disagree with this. On paper, these schools shouldn't be good, and they do have the depth problems that you mention. However, if they were total "garbage", then that would have been exposed by the conference realignment that was effective for this year. Yorktown and WL dropped a steady diet of Wakefield, Lee, Stuart, Mt. Vernon, Edison, and Falls Church, for the likes of Madison, McLean, Langley, Fairfax, and South Lakes. I thought that their records last year (7-3 for Yorktown; 6-4 for WL) were inflated based on the competition that they played last year, and that they would struggle this year with newer and tougher competition. So far, their records aren't as good, as last year, and aren't likely to be as good, but they aren't the bottom of their new conference, either.

As far as coaching goes, I've seen both play, more than once, and I think their coaching is fine. In fact, I'd say that both of them have at least one victory this year that is attributable to their coaching staffs outcoaching their opponent's coaching staff. Also, regarding having big kids for the line positions, WL's O-Line is plenty big, though all of those guys are seniors, and it's not clear what replaces them next year.

Even though I don't completely agree with you, I do think that depth is going to be a problem for both of these schools, in comparison to their new competition, and I can see them struggling in the next few years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Idiots amongst us ()
Date: October 21, 2015 04:49PM

What is really sorry is a fan, just so you know, NOT a Centreville Guy, talking about Westfield Crumbling and failing to show up...crying little Bitch, unless you are a bulldog Fan or Centreville fan, with the exception of one year in the past 4, they were the only Northern Region teams left standing at the End, go change your Tampon you little Bitch and get back on the Soccer Field...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 21, 2015 05:28PM

Agree. What is really sorry is that every time someone pokes at Westfield they immediately think it is a Centreville fan. Assume there are a fair amount of those here too but I know (because I am a Westfield poker) that there are others of us that have nothing to do with Centreville. Sanctimonious Westfield fans always talking about consistency and the like but have to admit they fail to show up in the real big games at the ends of seasons. Sorry just the facts.

______________________________________________________________

No, what's really sorry is someone like you poking fun at the most consistent 6A North program over the past 13 seasons but you don't have the courage to admit who you root for. If I'm not mistaken no 6A North school has more wins, overall record of 152-36, or has been to 13, going on 14 consecutive post season appearances. Yes they've lost the last few years, but as previous posts note it was to some pretty decent teams. Three time to Centreville and once to Oakton, all Concorde teams. So, if you're going to poke fun at least man up and let everyone know who you root for. Unless of course you're too much of a coward to take some of the poking back that you seem to enjoy dishing out!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not a Centreville Guy ()
Date: October 21, 2015 05:29PM

Agreed, my team blows but Westfield still = Buffalo Bills.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 21, 2015 05:53PM

Agreed, my team blows but Westfield still = Buffalo Bills.

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I believe my reply to "what is really sorry" pertains to you as well....

And if you're going to criticize a team, come up with something original, I believe the Washington Post used the reference of the Bills to Westfield several months ago!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ok then sir ()
Date: October 21, 2015 06:03PM

Ok - the Bulldog are a bunch of dixie cupping, pompous ass, UVA wannabe, choke in the clutch losers.....is that original enough for you, DAD?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tommy lee ()
Date: October 21, 2015 07:11PM

Westfield is dangerous, the Robinson game was a fluke. Johnson cockrill frimpong and Johnson are as good as options as you have in the passing game. If scanlon can get them the ball, no one is better then them

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What?!!! ()
Date: October 21, 2015 08:17PM

Westfield is dangerous, the Robinson game was a fluke. Johnson cockrill frimpong and Johnson are as good as options as you have in the passing game. If scanlon can get them the ball, no one is better then them
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Ummmm, yeah, what team have you been watching this year? Doesn't matter what potential weapons Westfield might have, if Scanlon is running for his life it's a waste.

From the preseason to last Friday it is painfully obvious that Westfield has one of the worst offense lines in the area. They've got these big kids but none of them block well. Run or pass, it's painful to watch, poor Scanlon, he is constantly under pressure.

The Robinson game wasn't a fluke, it was a look at what happens when Westfield plays a good defense. They haven't faced a decent one since they played SOCO, and really all SOCO did was boitz every play.

If something doesn't change Westfield won't have to worry about the post season, they'll be one and done!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What?!!! ()
Date: October 21, 2015 08:20PM

Blitz not boitz is what i meant.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What...What ()
Date: October 21, 2015 09:50PM

Westfield O-line Coach is either Blind, has been blessed with Talent every year prior, or just flat out Sucks....their Line is terrible...some one needs to GO!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am a Centreville fan ()
Date: October 21, 2015 09:53PM

Unlike previous poster I am a Cville Fan. I don't feel the need to hate on Westfield but I do think Cville has a real chance to make this a game Friday night and perhaps even win. You heard it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: October 21, 2015 10:02PM

I am a Centreville fan Wrote:
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> Cville has a real chance to make this a game
> Friday night and perhaps even win. You heard it
> here first.


NOPE:

Posted by: centrevillerox
Date: October 20, 2015 11:03AM

They could upset Westfield this Friday in fact - Westfield's offense worse than Centreville's that is for sure.

Posted by: westfield sux
Date: October 21, 2015 01:50PM

I am DEFINITELY not a Centreville fan but would not be surprised if Centreville wins this week.

Posted by: Bulldog Booster
Date: October 21, 2015 03:06PM

And yes, I agree, would not be surprised at all if Centreville won this game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Farakhan ()
Date: October 21, 2015 10:10PM

The only thing C-Ville is guaranteed Friday is a Short Bus Ride...in fact no bus ride at all...C-ville adds to their turnover numbers and takes another Concorde Loss as Scanlon throws for 4-5 td's and possibly Catches 2....oh and Haddock might just spend the Second half on the Bull horn yelling at any one and every one...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Broad Run Still Running... ()
Date: October 21, 2015 10:15PM

Broad Run parent here. I don't like all of the silly one liners kids send in about Centreville and Westfield, but let me share with you right here and now...
this game will not be close! We could have scored 70 on C-Ville (scored 56 with a running clock and JV for entire 4th quarter).

Centreville just does not have the speed, strength, and siz that they need to stay CLOSE in this one.

Sorry folks, nothing to see here... 24 points or more should be the spread, Steve!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rolling road ()
Date: October 22, 2015 09:03AM

Cville v WF doesn't mean much this year attention should be on WSvLB game where a 1 seed and 3 seed are on the line. A handful of the best players will be on the field Friday night and a few weeks later SC at LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde Watcher ()
Date: October 22, 2015 09:26AM

Cville v WF doesn't mean much this year attention should be on WSvLB game where a 1 seed and 3 seed are on the line. A handful of the best players will be on the field Friday night and a few weeks later SC at LB.

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How do you figure that? Currently Westfield holds the #3 seed. I also don't see West Springfield upending LB.

I think there are some pretty damn good players over in the Concorde/Conference 5 as well. Just because a team doesn't have a great year doesn't mean they don't have some talent which is Cville's case this year.

The talk about Cville and WF is because their rivals and over the past few years the two most successful teams. The fact that it's a rivalry game means anything can happen which should make it a good game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: October 22, 2015 09:58AM

It will be interesting to see what kind of attendance there is at the WF-CEN and LB-WS game. I have noticed a continuing decline in attendance at NOVA high school football games by both students and parents/locals. I was just looking at some photos of a number of routine mid-season games from 2007 and although that was only 8 years ago attendance seems to be significantly lower. Some of the Loudoun schools have solid student attendance but even there in some games the parent/locals do not seem to come out in big numbers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 22, 2015 10:46AM

Thanks big guy for you insults. Pretty sure both jv teams were in for the fourth quarter. Guess you didn't fair to good last week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rolling road ()
Date: October 22, 2015 11:41AM

Concorde Watcher Wrote:
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> Cville v WF doesn't mean much this year attention
> should be on WSvLB game where a 1 seed and 3 seed
> are on the line. A handful of the best players
> will be on the field Friday night and a few weeks
> later SC at LB.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ------
>
> How do you figure that? Currently Westfield holds
> the #3 seed. I also don't see West Springfield
> upending LB.
>
> I think there are some pretty damn good players
> over in the Concorde/Conference 5 as well. Just
> because a team doesn't have a great year doesn't
> mean they don't have some talent which is Cville's
> case this year.
>
> The talk about Cville and WF is because their
> rivals and over the past few years the two most
> successful teams. The fact that it's a rivalry
> game means anything can happen which should make
> it a good game.


Westfields is just plan bad on offense and won't have enough to beat any team that has some explosiveness. WS put 35 points up against a Robinson team that WF only scored 3 against as well 40 against SC that WF could only put 19. WF is really good on defense but that can only take you so far when your offense is inept.

In regards to LB both games against WS were decided by 2 points last year with the home team winning both games. Each team is returning a bunch players and the two best qb's in the county. WS defense has been suspect but have been playing much better as of late. Should be a close game with a slight edge to LB.

Nobody is question the Concorde but the fact is they haven't beat the top 3 teams in the patriot this year. Therefore, LBvWS should be the game to watch Friday night.

CvillevWF isn't the only rivalry game. That game maybe a sleeper. Cville may not score on WF and WF may put you to sleep when they have the ball. Hopefully I'm wrong and they put a great game together.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Ravens ()
Date: October 22, 2015 03:37PM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield BIlls ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:24PM

I am not a Centreville fan, I root for another NR team but Westfield definitely has a Bills thing going….

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Closer to Ravens… The two times they go to states… they win… not like the Centreville Colts (win 50/50)

still hope for the Soco Texans/Jaguars… never there… but always in the hunt

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: subtle-insult? ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:23PM

Rolling road Wrote:
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> Westfields is just plan bad on offense and won't
> have enough to beat any team that has some
> explosiveness.

There is no Westfields - only WESTFIELD.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Ravens -1 ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:25PM

Been a long time since 2007 buster, almost a decade....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballhistorian2 ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:32PM

Broad Run 56 - Centreville 21
Stone Bridge 27 - Broad Run 13
Westfield 28 - Stone Bridge 7

Westfield @ Centreville = ???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Can't get right ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:40PM

subtle-insult? Wrote:
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> Rolling road Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Westfields is just plan bad on offense and
> won't
> > have enough to beat any team that has some
> > explosiveness.
>
> There is no Westfield size="10">s - only
> WESTFIELD
.

Glad you didn't respond to the topic on hand bc you have nothing legitimate to say.

Does writing it in all caps make you triumphant?

So there is no further confusion: the school was named after the beaulevard and you couldn't even get that right?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: subtle-insult? ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:49PM

Can't get right Wrote:
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> So there is no further confusion: the school was
> named after the beaulevard and you couldn't even
> get that right?

It's BOULEVARD. LOL!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Ravens (+2) ()
Date: October 22, 2015 08:53PM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Ravens -1 ()
Date: October 22, 2015 04:25PM

Been a long time since 2007 buster, almost a decade….
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If that is the case… 14 straight playoffs, two state championships… and only around for 15 years... will compare with any Northern Region team with 3 State wins… Even your hated southern 'cheater' teams only have 2… (notice you haven't talked about Hylton as being cheaters… and only one with three wins)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 22, 2015 08:59PM

We’re quickly winding down to postseason time. Should be quite a few good games this Friday. I must say it’s sad not to be more excited for the Westfield-Centreville game. That has been such a wonderful series over the past several years.

Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
*Upset Alert for the Chargers. Briar Woods has been losing steam the past couple weeks, but no one has played a tougher schedule in the region, and with a bye week the following Friday for the Falcons I look for a strong effort. Chantilly is coming off their best win of the season and with big showdowns coming up between Centreville and Westfield this would be a great win for them if they come in focused and ready to go. Could go either way, lets just put it this way this is not a typical 5-2 team vs a 2-6 team game.

Falls Church @ Edison (-7.0)

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Yorktown

Langley @ South Lakes (-14.0)
*South Lakes is the better team but Langley could give them trouble.

Lee (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*I can’t believe I’m putting this Lee team as a two touchdown favorite.

Madison (-21.0) @ Fairfax

Marshall (-7.0) @ Wakefield
*Game of the Week: Capital Conference Championship Game. I’m not saying the talent level is high and this is the weakest conference by multiple miles, but for these schools a conference championship is a big deal and this game should be pretty even.

Mount Vernon @ Woodson (-15.0)

Oakton @ Broad Run (-17.0)

South County (-28.0) @ Annandale

Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
*Stone Bridge is coming on strong, look for a big Bulldog win on the road.

Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-56.0)
*This will get ugly fast.

Washington-Lee (-10.0) @ McLean

West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-6.0)
*The most talent on the field in Fairfax County this week. I’d be surprised though if the Bruins don’t win.

Westfield (-20.0) @ Centreville
*Centreville may keep it closer in a heated rivalry game, but on paper Westfield is 4 TDs better.

Robinson (-25.0) @ Herndon

West Potomac (-10.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 22, 2015 10:08PM

Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)

I really have to disagree on this one. Everyone has been saying good things about Briar Woods all season but all they have done is lose and lose badly lately. I think Chantilly wins this one easily.

Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora

Yep. I also think SB will win. Probably a close game but Tuscarora won't be able to produce yet another end of game magic in this one.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Steve fan ()
Date: October 23, 2015 01:16AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> We’re quickly winding down to postseason time.
> Should be quite a few good games this Friday. I
> must say it’s sad not to be more excited for the
> Westfield-Centreville game. That has been such a
> wonderful series over the past several years.
>
> Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
> *Upset Alert for the Chargers. Briar Woods has
> been losing steam the past couple weeks, but no
> one has played a tougher schedule in the region,
> and with a bye week the following Friday for the
> Falcons I look for a strong effort. Chantilly is
> coming off their best win of the season and with
> big showdowns coming up between Centreville and
> Westfield this would be a great win for them if
> they come in focused and ready to go. Could go
> either way, lets just put it this way this is not
> a typical 5-2 team vs a 2-6 team game.

Thanks for coming out with the lines. This is one of my favorite posts, but I have to ask, what took so long.

I'll offer up my opinions
>
> Falls Church @ Edison (-7.0)

I look for Edison to win and cover, but not by much.
>
> Hayfield (-17.0) @ Yorktown

I get the sense that Yorktown is fading and Hayfield is coming on, after have two early season losses. I think Hayfield wins and covers.
>
> Langley @ South Lakes (-14.0)
> *South Lakes is the better team but Langley could
> give them trouble.

I agree with you that Langley is better than their record indicates. South Lakes should win, but I don't think they will cover.
>
> Lee (-14.0) @ Jefferson
> *I can’t believe I’m putting this Lee team as
> a two touchdown favorite.

I totally get your reluctance here, but it's TJ. I think Lee wins and covers.
>
> Madison (-21.0) @ Fairfax

Madison is clearly the class of Conference 6, and I think they are going to win out. Provided they don't take Fairfax too lightly, I look for Madison to win and cover. About Fairfax, they haven't been favored since Woodson, and not only have they lost every game since then, every opponent has covered your spread. Frankly, I don't understand why they are so bad this year. They have a lot of depth on their roster, and last year's JV team racked up some fairly impressive victories down the stretch.
>
> Marshall (-7.0) @ Wakefield
> *Game of the Week: Capital Conference Championship
> Game. I’m not saying the talent level is high
> and this is the weakest conference by multiple
> miles, but for these schools a conference
> championship is a big deal and this game should be
> pretty even.

Marshall is a great story this season. Marshall wins and covers
>
> Mount Vernon @ Woodson (-15.0)

Woodson wins, but they don't cover. Didn't they lose 61 to nothing last week? I think Woodson ekes out a win, but only because they are the home team, and they are playing Mt. Vernon.
>
> Oakton @ Broad Run (-17.0)

This spread is about right. I'll take Broad Run to cover, but barely
>
> South County (-28.0) @ Annandale

I think this spread is too high. South County wins, but doesn't cover.
>
> Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
> *Stone Bridge is coming on strong, look for a big
> Bulldog win on the road.

I'll go with Tusky here.
>
> Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-56.0)
> *This will get ugly fast.

I agree this will get ugly, but I just can't give 56 points.
>
> Washington-Lee (-10.0) @ McLean

WL is on a two game winning streak, but McLean seems to be getting closer to their first W. Since McLean is the home team, I'll take WL to win, but not cover.
>
> West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-6.0)
> *The most talent on the field in Fairfax County
> this week. I’d be surprised though if the
> Bruins don’t win.

I think the Bruins win and cover.
>
> Westfield (-20.0) @ Centreville
> *Centreville may keep it closer in a heated
> rivalry game, but on paper Westfield is 4 TDs
> better.

Westfield wins and covers.
>
> Robinson (-25.0) @ Herndon

Robinson wins and covers.
>
> West Potomac (-10.0) @ TC Williams

I think West Po wins by two TDs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 23, 2015 09:40AM

> Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
I’m rolling with Chantilly. Sure, BW is better than their record indicates but they have been playing pretty bad as of late. Chantilly 31-21
> Falls Church @ Edison (-7.0)
Edison 23-17, pretty bad game.
> Hayfield (-17.0) @ Yorktown
Hayfield will have the best player on the field and that will be the different. Hayfield 40-24
> Langley @ South Lakes (-14.0)
Like I said last week, SL is much improved and moving in the right direction but their schedule did them some huge favors early in the season. Madison physically beat them down and that is what Langley does best. Give me Langley with the minor upset. 24-21
> Lee (-14.0) @ Jefferson
Who cares… Lee 35-14
> Madison (-21.0) @ Fairfax
Fairfax is reallllly bad. Madison 42-8
> Marshall (-7.0) @ Wakefield
Imagine this game back in 2012… Wakefield 30-28
> Mount Vernon @ Woodson (-15.0)
Will these team have new coaches next year? Woodson 38-23
> Oakton @ Broad Run (-17.0)
Oakton is well coached and that will keep them in it. But Broad Run should be pissed off. BR 34-20
> South County (-28.0) @ Annandale
SC via death by onside kicks. 44-17
> Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
Game of the Week in my eyes. SB still the king of Loudoun 33-27
> Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-56.0)
> *This will get ugly fast. Agreed. 62-7

> Washington-Lee (-10.0) @ McLean
McLean finally got some guys healthy! Should be a close one but WL will win 21-13. Good news for McLean is they still have Fairfax on the schedule.
> West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-6.0)
WS just too inconsistent this year. You never know which WS you’re going to get. I’ll take Braddock 35-17.
> Westfield (-20.0) @ Centreville
Centreville isn’t very good. Westfield takes this 31-14.
> Robinson (-25.0) @ Herndon
The Route has already begun. Robinson 56-7
> West Potomac (-10.0) @ TC Williams
If TC had the ability to put up points, I’d give them a chance but their offense hasn’t produced all year. I’ll Take West Po 24-12.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 23, 2015 12:30PM

So the burning question of the day is: how has steve k2* been doing this year in his picks? I took the time to go back and check and below is what I found:

Picked winner outright: 96-20
Winner covered the spread: 61-54-1

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 23, 2015 12:34PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
> *Upset Alert for the Chargers. Briar Woods has
> been losing steam the past couple weeks, but no
> one has played a tougher schedule in the region,
> and with a bye week the following Friday for the
> Falcons I look for a strong effort. Chantilly is
> coming off their best win of the season and with
> big showdowns coming up between Centreville and
> Westfield this would be a great win for them if
> they come in focused and ready to go. Could go
> either way, lets just put it this way this is not
> a typical 5-2 team vs a 2-6 team game.

I think I'm going to have to go with the Chargers on this one.


>
> Falls Church @ Edison (-7.0)

Edison will win, but won't cover that spread.


>
> Hayfield (-17.0) @ Yorktown

That seems about right.

>
> Langley @ South Lakes (-14.0)
> *South Lakes is the better team but Langley could
> give them trouble.


South Lakes wins and covers.

>
> Lee (-14.0) @ Jefferson
> *I can’t believe I’m putting this Lee team as
> a two touchdown favorite.

If Lee doesn't cover this one . . .



>
> Madison (-21.0) @ Fairfax

Madison wins but doesn't cover.

>
> Marshall (-7.0) @ Wakefield
> *Game of the Week: Capital Conference Championship
> Game. I’m not saying the talent level is high
> and this is the weakest conference by multiple
> miles, but for these schools a conference
> championship is a big deal and this game should be
> pretty even.

Marshall wins and covers.


>
> Mount Vernon @ Woodson (-15.0)

Not enough points on that spread. Woodson wins by 4 tds.




>
> Oakton @ Broad Run (-17.0)


Broad Run covers that.


>
> South County (-28.0) @ Annandale

South County by 35.



>
> Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
> *Stone Bridge is coming on strong, look for a big
> Bulldog win on the road.

I'm going with Stone Bridge to cover.



>
> Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-56.0)
> *This will get ugly fast.

This will be a boat race. Probably from the opening kick.



>
> Washington-Lee (-10.0) @ McLean

W-L covers that.

>
> West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-6.0)
> *The most talent on the field in Fairfax County
> this week. I’d be surprised though if the
> Bruins don’t win.

Since I can't 'em both to lose . . . I'll take LB but they won't cover it.



>
> Westfield (-20.0) @ Centreville
> *Centreville may keep it closer in a heated
> rivalry game, but on paper Westfield is 4 TDs
> better.
>

Westfield wins but doesn't cover the 20.


> Robinson (-25.0) @ Herndon

might not be enough. Herndon is a bad, bad team.


>
> West Potomac (-10.0) @ TC Williams

West Potomac is getting back to their productive selves we saw early on. They win and cover.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: C-Ville Wildcat ()
Date: October 23, 2015 03:08PM

I know its not varsity but.....the future is looking rather bleak for the wildcats after the ass whippin they freshman got last night. looks like the qb cannot live up the legend his parents have said he would be. I guess that was a real deflating experience to the very over inflated ego. thePresley/griffin show didn't fair to well huh? there are many other players on the bench that could do just as good if not better....sad freshman football is full of politics and all the kids don't get a fair shot.

and no, I don't have a player on the team, I don't even have a son, just a disappointed fan

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 23, 2015 03:20PM

In my experience you can't go 100% on performance of freshman football to prognosticate very far in the future. But 50-3 is not good.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: explain yourself ()
Date: October 23, 2015 03:20PM

Who is the Cville Freshman QB, who did they lost to, and who is Presley/Griffin?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 23, 2015 04:04PM

Who is the Cville Freshman QB, who did they lost to, and who is Presley/Griffin?

___________________________________________________________________

They lost to Westfield 50-3.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Toomuchvenom ()
Date: October 23, 2015 04:13PM

last I checked Freshman football doesn't mean much. And a 14 year old kid doesn't deserve that level of hatred. A butt whipping of 50-3 is bad enough.

Young Mr. Egbers may not play on Sunday, may never even play on Saturday, but he will be a very nice high school QB and Cville is lucky to have him.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield rulesz ()
Date: October 23, 2015 04:41PM

Screw the venom comment, Westfield rules and always will! Suck on it Cville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 23, 2015 04:44PM

last I checked Freshman football doesn't mean much. And a 14 year old kid doesn't deserve that level of hatred. A butt whipping of 50-3 is bad enough.

Young Mr. Egbers may not play on Sunday, may never even play on Saturday, but he will be a very nice high school QB and Cville is lucky to have him.

________________________________________________________________

I agree with you, no need to call kids out, especially since it seems the original poster's hatred was directed at the young man's father.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: CvilleNation ()
Date: October 23, 2015 07:20PM

Carter Egbers? The fat retard kid?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: reality sucks ()
Date: October 23, 2015 07:44PM

Maybe the QB needs a dose of reality. When you've been told all your life you're the greatest thing to walk on a football field maybe you start to believe it. Sadly a hard core does of reality is a nice wake up call. Nobody likes the pompous arrogant kind, no matter what their age.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just sayn ()
Date: October 23, 2015 07:51PM

reality sucks Wrote:
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> Maybe the QB needs a dose of reality. When you've
> been told all your life you're the greatest thing
> to walk on a football field maybe you start to
> believe it. Sadly a hard core does of reality is
> a nice wake up call. Nobody likes the pompous
> arrogant kind, no matter what their age.


You are just upset he wouldn't let you blow him

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: totally overrated Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 09:56PM

My team not playing tonite so went to see the Westfield Centreville game. Westfield won 20-12. Holy cow though - not sure what anyone sees in Westfield. Centreville fumbled about 20 times and even still had a chance to tie with a missed pass in the end zone. Westfield better play a whole lot better or there is no way they get out of the North or if they do they will lose to a Beach time by 30 or more points. Why all the hype with this team?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agreed on Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:00PM

Agreed with previous poster. I AM a Centreville fan and realize the Wildcats are down this year but they almost beat Westfield. Westfield hype machine better watch out lest the same playoff loss happens again this year. Westfield no where near the quality of the Centreville and Oakton and Lake Braddock teams that have gotten out of the North the last 7-8 years. Just face it Bulldogs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:04PM

Agreed!!! Cville spots them 17...14 on turnovers. Cville hung in there. Could have pulled a major upset. Bulldogs are good but don't bark loud. They need to better if they expect big things.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dicked Down ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:09PM

All you blow hards harping about Westfield sucks while they keep beating somebody's team...it's a Rivalry game, one could only hope it would be close WTF do you all know about Football....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield sux ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:09PM

I predict an early round playoff loss by Westfield, won't even have to worry about whether they will lose in the NR finals this year. It will happen much earlier.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SLHS ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:09PM

South Lakes wins homecoming game over Langley 48-42!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rivalry Game ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:11PM

Every time in the last decade there has been a real rivalry game between Westfield and Centreville when it has really counted Centerville has won. Westfield is as usual good, but not great. Buffalo Bills and maybe even less this year. Everybody knows Cville is down this year but Westfield is supposed to be a state championship contender. Not hardly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield is ok I guess ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:12PM

I agree Westfield is ok, like kissing your sister. But I would not expect much from this team. Looks like the hype was not real.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Participation ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:14PM

I predict an early round playoff loss by Westfield, won't even have to worry about whether they will lose in the NR finals this year. It will happen much earlier.
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Westfield fans always seem to have an excuse for the mediocrity of their team. Next they will pass out participation ribbons to all the players when they lose in the playoffs again.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bulldog supporter ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:14PM

on the freshman topic, cvilles whole team got dominated, but stayed true to themselves and talked shit the whole game. Egbers is nothing special, threw a pick 6 and got Pulled in the third for a bad attitude. at the game tonight the cville freshman players continued to talk smack even though the Westfield players were classy and didn't want any trouble. typical cville kids, they thing everything should be given to them since they have been good for a couple years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Manny Smith ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:15PM

Yep, my name is manny smith and I'm still losing sleep over the magic fumble, I definitely do not agree with the Jack ass from above'a Decade comment...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Manny Smith got the last laugh ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:17PM

Again shows the idiocy of Westfield fans. Manny lost the fumble in the regular season when Westfield shines and then Westfield chumped in the NR finals, first of four in a row. By the way Manny's leg was down anyway but the refs gave it to Westfield. Heck Nickens Yzer crossed the goal line last year too. But does not matter because Westfield wins in the regular season but not in the NR finals.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:18PM

The Egbers kids are all talked. Spoiled little rich kids. The Qb getting all the hype is an 8th grader.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Bulldog fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:18PM

Bulldogs fans always talking smack are you kidding me?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mediocre Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:19PM

Westfield Bills

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:21PM

Westfield fans have nothing to say except we got a good program and blah and blah. Never win shit when it matters.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I know yeah ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:24PM

All you blow hards harping about Westfield sucks while they keep beating somebody's team...it's a Rivalry game, one could only hope it would be close WTF do you all know about Football....
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I know enough about football to know that if Westfield beats Robinson only 3-0 and then almost loses to Centreville a team decidedly in a rebuilding phase this year then they are not going to do shit in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield rulesz ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:26PM

WESTFIELD RULES LIKE ALWAYS

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cvilleturnovers ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:29PM

After three 1st quarter turnovers and couple short field scores Centreville dominated this game. Westfield offense weakest I've seen this year. Their defense is good, but not great. Cville oline won the upfront battle. I'm guessing the yardage battle pretty heavy in Cville's favor.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Chilled Fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:30PM

Cville fans knocking Westfield while the cville faithful talk about a fat retarded kid that may or may not be a QB...at least the over rated Westfield kids are just Lush's .... Really fat and retarded....shame

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: somebody want to run the ball ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:31PM

Worried Westfield parent here. Screw the Cville fans but I do think Westfield coaching staff now too enamored with pass. Have to run the ball sometimes and do it well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield parent ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:35PM

You need an offensive line to run the ball when you don't have a superstar, hell a falling star in the backfield... There will be NO Run game unless it's some make-do defensive player running backwards for his life..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Gameday TV boy ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:36PM

Watched game on Gameday TV - home nursing a head cold. Cville needs stickum on their hands. Not impressed with Westfield though. Not nearly a dominant team. Not living up the hype at all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: why the hate ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:39PM

wow Westfield not feeling the love here, what happened?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield rulesz ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:41PM

bunch of jealous Centreville fans

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I I believe I believe we ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:44PM

I believe that we will lose in the playoffs again, sings Westfield student body

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rolling Road ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:47PM

West Springfield never fired the Muskett? Lost by 35 hmmm. 56 to 21

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nobody carez ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:52PM

Nobody gives a shit about the Patriot District

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: all NR done ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:55PM

The entire Northern Region is down this year, just face it

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:56PM

Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
*Briar Woods won 24-21 in OT. Called this one and got a lot of resistance! Honestly though Briar Woods is a pretty good team, not a bad loss for the Chargers but one I’d like to see them be able to get.

Falls Church @ Edison (-7.0)
*Falls Church won 28-7. Did the Jaguars get a new player? Out of nowhere they explode for a 70-7 win against TJ and beat a team I had favored 28-7.

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Yorktown
*Hayfield won 21-14.

Langley @ South Lakes (-14.0)
*South Lakes won 48-42.

Lee (-14.0) @ Jefferson
*Lee won 41-20.

Madison (-21.0) @ Fairfax
*Madison won 44-0.

Marshall (-7.0) @ Wakefield
*Wakefield wins their conference with a big 33-19 win.

Mount Vernon @ Woodson (-15.0)
*Woodson wins 49-0.

Oakton @ Broad Run (-17.0)
*Broad Run wins 28-21.

South County (-28.0) @ Annandale
*South County won 40-12, nice to nail a spread.

Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
*Tuscarora with the 42-19 statement win. Tusky comes up big and Stone Bridge continues to be inconsistent, still capable of beating anyone in 5A.

Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-56.0)
*Potomac Falls won 57-21.

Washington-Lee (-10.0) @ McLean
*Washington-Lee won 28-0.

West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-6.0)
*Lake Braddock with the big 56-21 win.

Westfield (-20.0) @ Centreville
*Westfield won 20-12, rivalry game kept this one closer.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 23, 2015 11:00PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> So the burning question of the day is: how has
> steve k2* been doing this year in his picks? I
> took the time to go back and check and below is
> what I found:
>
> Picked winner outright: 96-20
> Winner covered the spread: 61-54-1


If that really is my record, I'm impressed! The winner covering spread should be close to .500 to make for difficult picks.

Missed several spreads and a few outrights tonight, but all good.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield overrated ()
Date: October 23, 2015 11:10PM

agree with previous posters, not too impressed with Westfield, expected more

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: It' obvious ()
Date: October 23, 2015 11:30PM

First off I believe Westfield had just as many turnovers as Centerville. They probably had twice as many penalties. That and the fact it's a rivalry game us why it was close. Centreville also has some pretty good athletes.

However, it's obviuos to anyone who's watched Westfield this year know what the problem is. They've got a great defense and solid special teams, but their offense, it's bad.

The offense has got to be the worst they've had in the past 10 years. No athletes at the RB position and a horrid offensive line. Biggest kids probably on any line anywhere but not one of them can block.

The other issue is playcalling, Westfield contiunes to shoot themselves with questionable play calling. It's almost as if they have no idea what to do, consistency is nonexistent.

One thing is for sure, they"ll be lucky to get past the second round in the playoffs. That's unless there's a shake-up on the O-line and playcalling. Doubt it though since it's week 8 and nothing has changed!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:12AM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Chantilly @ Briar Woods (-6.0)
>
> I really have to disagree on this one. Everyone
> has been saying good things about Briar Woods all
> season but all they have done is lose and lose
> badly lately. I think Chantilly wins this one
> easily.
>
> Stone Bridge (-7.0) @ Tuscarora
>
> Yep. I also think SB will win. Probably a close
> game but Tuscarora won't be able to produce yet
> another end of game magic in this one.

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0 for 2. BW finally gets one. SB is a yo-yo.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Peachfuzz ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:54AM

No Steve, the Jags are just really, really young. They are getting better on a weekly basis.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The hype ()
Date: October 24, 2015 07:21AM

I don't think anyone really ever thought Westfield would be a contender for the State championship this year. They were (and still are) hyped up as a contender to come out of the 6A North, which they still have a legit shot at as a 7-1 team.

It is funny how much the Cville folks are talking about how "bad" the Westfield team is and how they won't do anything in the playoffs when their own team won't even MAKE the playoffs this year! You say "win when it matters"....well, the regular season "matters" when you can't even make it to the playoffs.

Finally, this brings the Westfield/Centreville regular season record to 13-2 in favor of Westfield (one of those being a 10-7 lost their first year with a varsity schedule).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 07:59AM

What is even more interesting is again Westfield fan doesn't bring up the three times that Cville beat Westfield additionally in the northern region championships. Again Westfield is a regular-season team not a playoff team and its fans realize that and even seem to rejoice in it.... Go Bills!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:11AM

The hype Wrote:
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> It is funny how much the Cville folks are talking
> about how "bad" the Westfield team is and how they
> won't do anything in the playoffs when their own
> team won't even MAKE the playoffs this year!

Centreville has Westfield on the mind all the time. Even when they had their dominant teams going to states all the Centreville fans wanted to do was talk down Westfield. Nothing has changed. They have more fun rooting against Westfield than for their own team. That being said - Centreville has a decent football team - first time I've seen them this year - not sure why they haven't won more games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville Envy syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:17AM

Think it really goes the other way buster

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Its the westfield hype ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:34AM

Yeah, a down Cville year, but Westfield told everyone how good they were going to be this year and it's not there. They were way better last year.

That being said Cville will make the play-offs, if they beat Robinson and Chantilly they would host a first round game.

As it stands today, they would play Madison first round. I'm thinking Madison might like a different 1st round opponent.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:35AM

Manny Smith got the last laugh Wrote:
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> Again shows the idiocy of Westfield fans. Manny
> lost the fumble in the regular season when
> Westfield shines and then Westfield chumped in the
> NR finals, first of four in a row. By the way
> Manny's leg was down anyway but the refs gave it
> to Westfield. Heck Nickens Yzer crossed the goal
> line last year too.

You are a cherry-picking. There is no clear evidence Manny was down on that play or that Z-NY crossed the goal-line. Those were close plays. What there is clear evidence of is that Manny was not down when he fumbled in the championship game and that fourth down pass did hit the ground. So just leave it alone. Close plays happen and without replay sometime it gets called wrong.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield hypes ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:38AM

Westfield hypes themselves every year and usually can't deliver the goods but then consoles themselves with yeah we're very good regular season team

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pick this ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:45AM

There is definitive proof YZ was down prior to goal line, there is a real famous picture that conclusively shows him coming up Short...do you wanna make a wager...say $10 k to a charity that represents Fat, Retarded kids since C-ville Fans are hung up on that issue?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Grassy knoll boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:46AM

I was at all these games and refs always decidedly in Westfield pockets.... They must be taken in by the allure of that faux elitism and entitlement that seeps out of Westfield. I I believe I Believe that we will....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Shut up already ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:46AM

What is even more interesting is again Westfield fan doesn't bring up the three times that Cville beat Westfield additionally in the northern region championships. Again Westfield is a regular-season team not a playoff team and its fans realize that and even seem to rejoice in it.... Go Bills

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Enough with the Bill's comparisons, if Westfield had never won a title that would be fitting. However they've won as many state titles as Centreville has.

Yes they haven't won since 2007 but then again, they have the same number as a school that's been open almost twice as long as they have.

Since 1999, as far back as VHSL reference shows, here are Centerville's and Westfield's comparisons.

Keep in mind Westfield didn't open until 2000.

Here are the facts;

Overall record;
Centreville 136-58
Westfield 152-36

Postseason record;
Centreville 22-9
Westfield 22-11

Postseason trips;
Centreville 11
Westfield 13

Consecutive postseason trips through 2014;
Centreville 5
Westfield 13

Concorde/Conference 5 Titles;
Centreville 4
Westfield 7

State Titles;
Centreville 2
Westfield 2

Seems like both schools have had pretty good success, both have produced some pretty good players.

But once and for all can we please stop with the Bills comparisons when talking Westfield. Pretty certain every high school coach, player, fan would love to have a program solid enough to have made it to 13, including this year, 14 consecutive postseason appearances. Also to play in 4 consecutive postseason region championships, won or lost.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Go Bills ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:49AM

Ok thx for the info - go Atlanta Braves

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pockets ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:50AM

All one needed to do was watch the Sideline(s) to see the Buffoonery, what a whining ass-hat of a Coach...spent more time on the field than his players...maybe that's why they lost....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield fans are mean ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:54AM

The bulldog fans who think that they sit up in the stands with their white suits on and are beyond reproach looks like they're pretty nasty to me...get over yourselves

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What hype ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:57AM

Westfield hypes themselves every year and usually can't deliver the goods but then consoles themselves with yeah we're very good regular season team

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Pretty sure the press hypes them, probably due to their consistency. Certainly isn't their head coach, not his style.

Wanna talk about hype, Haddock said before the season that Centreville would have the best D-line in the state. Also said something about how many were predicting a down year but they would surprise everyone.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What hype (response) ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:05AM

I am surprised… aren't you :)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Trips to state finals ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:08AM

All the stats posted by the Bulldog poster and he leaves out trips to finals. Cville 4 Westfield 2

Made it to the big game 3 times since Bull Dogs have been there. And you won't be going this year either.

Oh by the way, quit bitching about the officiating. Film shows Scanlon fumbled on the 15 yard line. Officials saw that one Bull Dogs way.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde Amazed ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:10AM

Agree with the Cville posters....Westfield is disgustingly navelgazing and self obsessed

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Have to agree concorde vet ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:15AM

Have to agree the whole Westfield fan self-absorption seems to be getting the best of them need to loosen up a little bit folks

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:17AM

Yeah, a down Cville year, but Westfield told everyone how good they were going to be this year and it's not there. They were way better last year.

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There is no question, Westfield's offense last year was a night and day difference to what they currently have. There is no break away speed at the RB position. Only kid they had never made it on the field. Offensive line is awful, not sure how a line with that size advantage isn't blowing opponents off the ball.

Westfield's special teams is about even, punting game might actually be better with the Delaney kid kicking. The only chink in special teams is field goal accuracy, Bouveron, last years kicker, was money.

The defense though, it appears to be a little stronger than last years team. Secondary looked a little suspect early on but has played well since SOCO. It's too bad that Clancy is out with a knee injury. He and Scanlon are the only D1 athletes on that team.

Think that Westfield was definitely overhyped by the media prior to and since the season began. It's almost as if they're winning despite the lack of quality athletes on the team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:23AM

Read back through this thread. After Oakton game - Oakton fans get on board and say Westfield sucks, Oakton woulda/coulda/shoulda won. After Robinson game lots more of the same. Now after Centreville game even more Westfield sux. Common theme? Westfield won all three games (3-0 in Concorde). Maybe they do sux... but they are winning.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Shut up already ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:23AM

All the stats posted by the Bulldog poster and he leaves out trips to finals. Cville 4 Westfield 2
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I would hope so since Centreville's been open for what, 27 years and Westfield for 15!




Made it to the big game 3 times since Bull Dogs have been there. And you won't be going this year either.
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Probably, but they will be going for the 14th consecutive season while you and your Wildcats are sitting at home!


BTW, the comparisons were for the benefit of both programs, not to make one appear more superior than the other. It appears as if you may suffer from some sort of inferior complex based on your posts.

Please, stop living in the past, Centreville had a great team the past couple seasons. As a matter of fact, a dream team of sorts, but that's over and would appear they've fallen back to more of what the program has been prior to Haddock's arrival.

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Posted by: Go see a psychiatrist ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:24AM

Wow is this a football site or a Westfield fans on a black couch site give me a break.... What a bunch of pansies

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Derangement Syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:28AM

Trips to state finals Wrote:
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> Oh by the way, quit bitching about the
> officiating. Film shows Scanlon fumbled on the 15
> yard line. Officials saw that one Bull Dogs way.

You know what - that was a clear fumble. Refs missed it. Unlike you whining C'ville fans I can admit it when I see it. But the officiating in this game was very pro-Centreville. Haddock ran those refs like a marionette.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Be specific ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:37AM

What specific calls went against Westfield that were wrong? We just have agreement on a huge call that may have changed the game. (Cville ball inside the Westfield 15 on Scanlon fumble)

Because Haddock showed emotion is not evidence, sounds like whinning, bitching and moaning from you.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield is dainty ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:41AM

Westfield ascribes by the "gentlemen rules" of football like when you play croquet. That is why they get bitch slapped in the playoffs all the time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: thx ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:57AM

Shut up already Wrote:
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> What is even more interesting is again Westfield
> fan doesn't bring up the three times that Cville
> beat Westfield additionally in the northern region
> championships. Again Westfield is a regular-season
> team not a playoff team and its fans realize that
> and even seem to rejoice in it.... Go Bills
>
> __________________________________________________
> __________________
>
> Enough with the Bill's comparisons, if Westfield
> had never won a title that would be fitting.
> However they've won as many state titles as
> Centreville has.
>
> Yes they haven't won since 2007 but then again,
> they have the same number as a school that's been
> open almost twice as long as they have.
>
> Since 1999, as far back as VHSL reference shows,
> here are Centerville's and Westfield's
> comparisons.
>
> Keep in mind Westfield didn't open until 2000.
>
> Here are the facts;
>
> Overall record;
> Centreville 136-58
> Westfield 152-36
>
> Postseason record;
> Centreville 22-9
> Westfield 22-11
>
> Postseason trips;
> Centreville 11
> Westfield 13
>
> Consecutive postseason trips through 2014;
> Centreville 5
> Westfield 13
>
> Concorde/Conference 5 Titles;
> Centreville 4
> Westfield 7
>
> State Titles;
> Centreville 2
> Westfield 2
>
> Seems like both schools have had pretty good
> success, both have produced some pretty good
> players.
>
> But once and for all can we please stop with the
> Bills comparisons when talking Westfield. Pretty
> certain every high school coach, player, fan would
> love to have a program solid enough to have made
> it to 13, including this year, 14 consecutive
> postseason appearances. Also to play in 4
> consecutive postseason region championships, won
> or lost.

Truth...thanks for the facts!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lori, the name LORI! ()
Date: October 24, 2015 10:06AM

nufan Wrote:
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> The Egbers kids are all talked. Spoiled little
> rich kids. The Qb getting all the hype is an 8th
> grader.

Don't hate on us. Youre jealous we can afford to over indulge our kids and inflate their egos to prepare for the haters. Yes Presley has an attitude problem but he wants to win and you will see him on TV on both Saturday and Sunday in a few years. Nothing but the best for my little darlings!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 24, 2015 10:37AM

Some actual game observations: kudos to #32 in blocking BOTH Centreville extra point attempts. Special teams had another solid performance for Westfield. #80 for Centreville was on fire this game – he absolutely tortured the Westfield offensive line and I’m sure Scanlon was tired of seeing him all night long. That kid is the real deal.

I see both Oakton and Chantilly lost in OT. Anyone at those games can give any detail about how those went down?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:19AM

All you Cville and Westfield haters need to stop. Feelings are getting hurt. Go cry to you mama!! Who really cares about past and present records. It's all in good fun on this board. Pull up your big boy pants and move on. Enjoy the bs on this site.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:31AM

I agree nufan. Our boys try hard and do it the right way. I am disappointed at the venom displayed at Westfield. I think it is unfair, just unfair, really unfair.....leave them alone, alone I say....we deserve better.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:36AM

Wow you Westfield fans really are pansies....jeessh.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agreed true that ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:42AM

Struck by this email thread, seems like Westfield fans have an inferiority complex, wassup with that?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:03PM

I am going to talk to the leader of this site if the venom towards Westfield does not cease immediately, I am tired of this crap.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pansy fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:07PM

I am going to talk to the leader of this site if the venom towards Westfield does not cease immediately, I am tired of this crap.
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Holy shit here is the ringleader of the Westfield pansy fans, right here.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Burke2 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:23PM

Lake braddock has beaten 2 straight teams worse than soco did, soco is overrated and lake braddock deserves more respect

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:33PM

win when it counts Lake Braddock fan and the respect will follow....don't be a whiny ass pansy like the Westfield fans.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Burke2 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:35PM

I know just think soco doesnt deserve the hype

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:03PM

SOCO needs to win when it counts too

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football fan ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:10PM

I was sitting near the wildcat freshman boys...what a bunch of bitter arrogant stuck up mouthy mean pricks. I had no idea kids could be so mean.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: frosh boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:34PM

Perhaps but sit around any freshman football team at any school and do you think you are going to hear quotes from Shakespeare and kind words about the cosmos?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:16PM

This board is getting God Damn stupid with all this Westfield-Centreville talk - especially right after a game night. To try and steer it in the right direction, here are the early lines for next week, which promises to be a great slate of games.

Broad Run (-3.0) @ Robinson
*I love this matchup, Broad Run has been a little down early, but I like their pass game in this matchup.

Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
*Another great game. Can Chantilly finally beat Centreville after some UGLY performances the past several years? I like the Chargers in a close, bigtime win for them.

Edison (-7.0) @ Lee

Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
*Falls Church has been hitting their stride the past couple weeks, but TJ and Edison are obviously nowhere near the talent of the Concorde. Look for the Cougars to cruise in this one.

Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)

Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon

Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee

Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart

Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
*Good game here, Stone Bridge is so up and down, I look for an up week this Friday.

South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
*Really on the fence about this one; it should be a fun game to watch.

TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
*This should be another fun game, with pretty even talent on both sides.

Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson

West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)

West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson

Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stupid is stupid does Westfld ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:38PM

Yeah I agree, thanks Westfield fans for bringing this discussion down many levels. We can always count on you to take it to the gutter. Get a life.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yep thanks Steve k2 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:43PM

Yep thanks Steve k2 for pointing out the childishness of the Westfield fans. Never ends does it?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cougar fan ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:47PM

Yes thx - Oakton Cougar fan here. Tired of these Westfield fans myself. This is like the Westfield talk about me line.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No a fan of either ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:50PM

Yeah I agree, thanks Westfield fans for bringing this discussion down many levels. We can always count on you to take it to the gutter. Get a life.

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Well it appears that 7-8 of the first 9 threads were anti-Westfield. Not sure how the Westfield fans brought anything down, it would appear the opposite.

BTW, nice attempt to get back to football steve k2. I like your picks but think Centreville and Robinson win their contests next week. Also think that SOCO not only wins but covers the spread easily.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Centreville Resident ()
Date: October 24, 2015 03:33PM

For the convenience of all I have created a Westfield-Centreville thread so those who can't help themselves can take it somewhere else:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/2002542.html

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt Morgan ()
Date: October 24, 2015 03:48PM

Let's not be so hasty with jumping out against Westfield fans, sure there are some obnoxious people in our fan base but I promise we aren't all like that. I want to say great game Centreville, y'all are always tough and as always I look forward to the next time we play. Go Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: eff Cville ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:18PM

I say Eff Centreville

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agree with eff ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:30PM

Agree, EFF CENTERVILLE< THEY LOSE ANYWAY

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: see there boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:53PM

Typical Westfield cranks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stupid is ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:56PM

And your sorry ass added any value...your Guru who is handicapping high school football games Takes the Lords name in Vain....Heathens!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stupid is x 2 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 05:05PM

at least he did not say fucking cock sucking god dammit......

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I love foosball ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:57PM

have you ever played in your basement

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wildcat mom ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:12PM

As a wildcat fan I am sorry to say that I too am appalled at our behavior. I wish parents would quit coddling to these boys. Its about time they learn how to be men, respectable ones at that. But what can you expect from the status conscious clique parents in LRR. Sad.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what kind of mom ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:26PM

Are you a wildcat mom or a cougar mom.....yippee

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BullDawgy ()
Date: October 25, 2015 12:45AM

Good to see a Northern Region RB is top rusher in the WP for first time in a while and in an era of more pass first offenses.
Does Hayfield do any spread or is it all just I formation and Jet sweeps to get the Ross kid all those yards?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Steve fan ()
Date: October 25, 2015 12:56AM

steve k2* Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This board is getting God Damn stupid with all
> this Westfield-Centreville talk - especially right
> after a game night. To try and steer it in the
> right direction, here are the early lines for next
> week, which promises to be a great slate of
> games.
>
> Broad Run (-3.0) @ Robinson
> *I love this matchup, Broad Run has been a little
> down early, but I like their pass game in this
> matchup.
>
> Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
> *Another great game. Can Chantilly finally beat
> Centreville after some UGLY performances the past
> several years? I like the Chargers in a close,
> bigtime win for them.
>
> Edison (-7.0) @ Lee
>
> Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
> *Falls Church has been hitting their stride the
> past couple weeks, but TJ and Edison are obviously
> nowhere near the talent of the Concorde. Look for
> the Cougars to cruise in this one.
>
> Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)
>
> Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon
>
> Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee
>
> Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart
>
> Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
> *Good game here, Stone Bridge is so up and down, I
> look for an up week this Friday.
>
> South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
> *Really on the fence about this one; it should be
> a fun game to watch.
>
> TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
> *This should be another fun game, with pretty even
> talent on both sides.
>
> Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson
>
> West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)
>
> West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson
>
> Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0)

Thanks for the lines; it was a well-needed diversion from the Centreville-Westfield talk.

Just one question -- no line on McLean at Fairfax? I can understand why you wouldn't want to set a line on that game. How about we call it a pick 'em?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: October 25, 2015 01:08AM

Updated Standings. I added last week's standings as well, in parenthesis, for comparison

6A North
South County (269) 33.63 (1)
Lake Braddock (267) 33.38 (2)
Westfield (250) 31.25 (3)
Madison (235) 29.38 (4)
Battlefield (226) 28.25 (6)
West Springfield (226) 28.25 (5)
Robinson (223) 27.88 (7)
West Potomac (223) 27.88 (t8)
-------------
Hayfield (221) 27.63 (10)
South Lakes (220) 27.50 (t8)
Oakton (203) 25.38 (12)
Chantilly (201) 25.13 (11)
Centreville (194) 24.25 (13)
Annandale (193) 24.13 (14)
Yorktown (191) 23.88 (15)
Washington-Lee (187) 23.38 (16)
=============
Patriot (180) 22.50 (t 19)
W.T. Woodson (178) 22.25 (t 21)
T.C. Williams (176) 22.00 (17)
Osbourn (192) 21.33 (18)
Herndon (170) 21.25 (t 19)
Langley (166) 20.75 (23)
Mount Vernon (162) 20.25 (t 21)
Fairfax (154) 19.25 (24)
Osbourn Park (153) 19.13 (26)
McLean (149) 18.63 (25)
Stonewall Jackson (162) 18.00 (27)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 25, 2015 06:59AM

My mistake, skipping McLean @ Fairfax was an oversight. The teams come in with 15 combined losses in a row, but it makes for a good game with pretty equal teams desperate to get a win.

This may change but...

McLean @ Fairfax (-3.0)
*McLean has been playing as of late, but I look for Fairfax being at home to be a nice advantage.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: D5 ()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:33AM

Hey Northern Region Fan,

Can you post the D5 rankings?

Are they already up on VHSL now?

Where did you get yours?

Thanks!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 25, 2015 01:04PM

Here is D5

1.Tuscarora 9-0
2. Brooke Point 7-1
3. Massaponax 8-0
4. Broad Run 7-1
5. Mountain View 6-2
6. Stone Bridge 4-4
7. North Stafford 6-2
8. Potomac Falls 6-2
_____________________

9. Wakefield 6-2
10. Albemarle 7-2
11. Orange County 5-3
12. Marshall 4-4
13. Atlee 4-3
14. Henry (Roanoake) 4-4
15. Potomac 3-5
16. Henry (Ashland) 5-6
__________________________

Briar Woods 3-6: If they sneak in, what a scary match up for anyone in D5
Halifax County 5-4
Lee
Edison
Stafford
Falls Church
Stuart
Thomas Jefferson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sour Nuts ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:26PM

All the WF crying is the D staff. For real, we hear every day. The D guys think they have the solutions and that the O staff won't listen, so they get on FFU.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sour butts ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:28PM

Oh come on, offense is just as good as the defense. Westfield yep.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Inside story at Bulldogs ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:41PM

Yep the infighting and dissensiun on the team is really starting to wear us all down. Wish it would stop!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: numberscruncher ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:02PM

Northern region fan Wrote:
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> Updated Standings. I added last week's standings
> as well, in parenthesis, for comparison
>
> 6A North
> South County (269) 33.63 (1)
> Lake Braddock (267) 33.38 (2)
> Westfield (250) 31.25 (3)
> Madison (235) 29.38 (4)
> Battlefield (226) 28.25 (6)
> West Springfield (226) 28.25 (5)
> Robinson (223) 27.88 (7)
> West Potomac (223) 27.88 (t8)
> -------------
> Hayfield (221) 27.63 (10)
> South Lakes (220) 27.50 (t8)
> Oakton (203) 25.38 (12)
> Chantilly (201) 25.13 (11)
> Centreville (194) 24.25 (13)
> Annandale (193) 24.13 (14)
> Yorktown (191) 23.88 (15)
> Washington-Lee (187) 23.38 (16)
> =============
> Patriot (180) 22.50 (t 19)
> W.T. Woodson (178) 22.25 (t 21)
> T.C. Williams (176) 22.00 (17)
> Osbourn (192) 21.33 (18)
> Herndon (170) 21.25 (t 19)
> Langley (166) 20.75 (23)
> Mount Vernon (162) 20.25 (t 21)
> Fairfax (154) 19.25 (24)
> Osbourn Park (153) 19.13 (26)
> McLean (149) 18.63 (25)
> Stonewall Jackson (162) 18.00 (27)

I dont have the time to run scenarios but I think the top 16 are pretty much locked in. Patriot is only going to win 1 more game. Woodson is probably not going to win another. TC Williams could maybe win their last 2. Osbourn will only win 1 more. Who is going to make a move into the top 16 other than those that are already there? am i wrong?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TheLeague ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:32PM

For the love of God, Westfield dads are killing this site. It used to be informative and interesting. Now people just argue about back when iPhones didn't exist their sons teams was better than centrevilles. Get with the program people, what have you done for me lately?! We live in a world of results. While Westfield has impressive numbers, they've only been around for under 20 years. That sounds impressive....it's not. Wait until the socio economic environment of your area changed Westfield and you have your turf field taken over by soccer players and cricket tournaments. Annandale won 2 state championships in their first 15 years(same as you), was a dominant force in the state, and was even ranked at one point as the number one team in the country. Your success will fade, like it is beginning to. I am not a Westfield hater, and I will let the dads pick apart my post later, but I wanted to be clear that I have no dog in the fight nor have I ever, but if I'm speaking for the rest of fairfax county, GET OVER YOURSELVES. It's not your year, enough excuses. Cville, get off this site please, we won't expose you this year out of pity. That's cool you and the "dream team" of talent one a title. But it's not 2013 and those kids are gone.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truthhurts ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:37PM

TheLeague Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> For the love of God, Westfield dads are killing
> this site. It used to be informative and
> interesting. Now people just argue about back when
> iPhones didn't exist their sons teams was better
> than centrevilles. Get with the program people,
> what have you done for me lately?! We live in a
> world of results. While Westfield has impressive
> numbers, they've only been around for under 20
> years. That sounds impressive....it's not. Wait
> until the socio economic environment of your area
> changed Westfield and you have your turf field
> taken over by soccer players and cricket
> tournaments. Annandale won 2 state championships
> in their first 15 years(same as you), was a
> dominant force in the state, and was even ranked
> at one point as the number one team in the
> country. Your success will fade, like it is
> beginning to. I am not a Westfield hater, and I
> will let the dads pick apart my post later, but I
> wanted to be clear that I have no dog in the fight
> nor have I ever, but if I'm speaking for the rest
> of fairfax county, GET OVER YOURSELVES. It's not
> your year, enough excuses. Cville, get off this
> site please, we won't expose you this year out of
> pity. That's cool you and the "dream team" of
> talent one a title. But it's not 2013 and those
> kids are gone.

You are preaching to the choir my man!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Agree on Westfield ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:37PM

Wow, thanks for speaking the truth on the Westfield navel gazers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:42PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> RydellllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So the burning question of the day is: how has
> > steve k2* been doing this year in his picks? I
> > took the time to go back and check and below is
> > what I found:
> >
> > Picked winner outright: 96-20
> > Winner covered the spread: 61-54-1
>
>
> If that really is my record, I'm impressed! The
> winner covering spread should be close to .500 to
> make for difficult picks.
>
> Missed several spreads and a few outrights
> tonight, but all good.

So after 8 weeks:

Picked winner outright: 111-22
Winner covered the spread: 70-61-2

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:02PM

Would the below Centreville "fan" PLEASE GET OFF THE THREAD? For anyone who is wondering - these posts are all from the SAME PERSON.

Posted by: totally overrated Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 09:56PM

Posted by: agreed on Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:00PM

Posted by: Westfield sux ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:09PM

Posted by: Westfield is ok I guess ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:12PM

Posted by: Participation ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:14PM

Posted by: Manny Smith got the last laugh ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:17PM

Posted by: Westfield Bulldog fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:18PM

Posted by: Mediocre Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:19PM

Posted by: Westfield fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:21PM

Posted by: I know yeah ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:24PM

Posted by: Cvilleturnovers ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:29PM

Posted by: somebody want to run the ball ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:31PM

Posted by: Westfield parent ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:35PM

Posted by: Gameday TV boy ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:36PM

Posted by: I I believe I believe we ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:44PM

Posted by: nobody carez ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:52PM

Posted by: all NR done ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:55PM

Posted by: Westfield overrated ()
Date: October 23, 2015 11:10PM

Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 07:59AM

Posted by: Cville Envy syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:17AM

Posted by: Its the westfield hype ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:34AM

Posted by: Westfield hypes ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:38AM

Posted by: Pick this ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:45AM

Posted by: Grassy knoll boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:46AM

Posted by: Go Bills ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:49AM

Posted by: Westfield fans are mean ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:54AM

Posted by: What hype (response) ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:05AM

Posted by: Trips to state finals ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:08AM

Posted by: Concorde Amazed ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:10AM

Posted by: Have to agree concorde vet ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:15AM

Posted by: Go see a psychiatrist ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:24AM
Posted by: Be specific ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:37AM

Posted by: Westfield is dainty ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:41AM

Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:36AM

Posted by: agreed true that ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:42AM

Posted by: Westfield fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:03PM

Posted by: Pansy fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:07PM

Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:33PM

Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:03PM

Posted by: frosh boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:34PM

Posted by: stupid is stupid does Westfld ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:38PM

Posted by: Yep thanks Steve k2 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:43PM

Posted by: Cougar fan ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:47PM

Posted by: see there boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:53PM

Posted by: Stupid is ()
Date: October 24, 2015 04:56PM

Posted by: Sour Nuts ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:26PM

Posted by: Sour butts ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:28PM

Posted by: Inside story at Bulldogs ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:41PM

Posted by: Agree on Westfield ()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:37PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:04PM

numberscruncher Wrote:
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> Northern region fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Updated Standings. I added last week's
> standings
> > as well, in parenthesis, for comparison
> >
> > 6A North
> > South County (269) 33.63 (1)
> > Lake Braddock (267) 33.38 (2)
> > Westfield (250) 31.25 (3)
> > Madison (235) 29.38 (4)
> > Battlefield (226) 28.25 (6)
> > West Springfield (226) 28.25 (5)
> > Robinson (223) 27.88 (7)
> > West Potomac (223) 27.88 (t8)
> > -------------
> > Hayfield (221) 27.63 (10)
> > South Lakes (220) 27.50 (t8)
> > Oakton (203) 25.38 (12)
> > Chantilly (201) 25.13 (11)
> > Centreville (194) 24.25 (13)
> > Annandale (193) 24.13 (14)
> > Yorktown (191) 23.88 (15)
> > Washington-Lee (187) 23.38 (16)
> > =============
> > Patriot (180) 22.50 (t 19)
> > W.T. Woodson (178) 22.25 (t 21)
> > T.C. Williams (176) 22.00 (17)
> > Osbourn (192) 21.33 (18)
> > Herndon (170) 21.25 (t 19)
> > Langley (166) 20.75 (23)
> > Mount Vernon (162) 20.25 (t 21)
> > Fairfax (154) 19.25 (24)
> > Osbourn Park (153) 19.13 (26)
> > McLean (149) 18.63 (25)
> > Stonewall Jackson (162) 18.00 (27)
>
> I dont have the time to run scenarios but I think
> the top 16 are pretty much locked in. Patriot is
> only going to win 1 more game. Woodson is
> probably not going to win another. TC Williams
> could maybe win their last 2. Osbourn will only
> win 1 more. Who is going to make a move into the
> top 16 other than those that are already there? am
> i wrong?

I'd have to run the numbers, and that is incredibly complicated, but I don't think that everyone in the top 16 are locked in. I'm thinking that any team that is currently in the top 12 is locked in, but teams that are in 13-16 may not yet have it sewn up. Keep in mind that Yorktown (#15) and W-L (#16) play each other the final weekend of the season, and if a team below them gets a win, the loser of that game could be out.

Here is the full remaining schedule for teams 13 - 16:

13. Centreville: @ Chantilly, v. Robinson
14. Annandale: v. TC Williams, @ West Springfield
15. Yorktown: @ Langley, v. Washington-Lee
16. Washington-Lee: v. Madison, @ Yorktown

The schedules for the four teams outside:

17. Patriot: @ Osbourn Park, @ Battlefield
18. Woodson: v. West Springfield, @ TC Williams
19. TC Williams: @ Annandale, v. Woodson
20. Osbourn: BYE, @ Osbourn Park

I think Langley also bears watching: If they can knock off Yorktown this weekend (and I think that is a favorable match up for them), they should finish the season with two consecutive wins (McLean is their last opponent). In fact, their schedule is the most favorable of any of the potential contenders. Their only question is whether they are in too deep of a hole to be overcome by two consecutive wins.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 25, 2015 11:11PM

TheLeague Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> For the love of God, Westfield dads are killing
> this site. It used to be informative and
> interesting. Now people just argue about back when
> iPhones didn't exist their sons teams was better
> than centrevilles. Get with the program people,
> what have you done for me lately?! We live in a
> world of results. While Westfield has impressive
> numbers, they've only been around for under 20
> years. That sounds impressive....it's not. Wait
> until the socio economic environment of your area
> changed Westfield and you have your turf field
> taken over by soccer players and cricket
> tournaments. Annandale won 2 state championships
> in their first 15 years(same as you), was a
> dominant force in the state, and was even ranked
> at one point as the number one team in the
> country. Your success will fade, like it is
> beginning to. I am not a Westfield hater, and I
> will let the dads pick apart my post later, but I
> wanted to be clear that I have no dog in the fight
> nor have I ever, but if I'm speaking for the rest
> of fairfax county, GET OVER YOURSELVES. It's not
> your year, enough excuses. Cville, get off this
> site please, we won't expose you this year out of
> pity. That's cool you and the "dream team" of
> talent one a title. But it's not 2013 and those
> kids are gone.

Demographics are of course an interesting aspect of high school football programs but I'm not sure I really understand the point of your diatribe. Are you suggesting that Annandale football fans and boosters did not talk about or take pride in their programs during and shortly after their heyday? I run into football players and coaches from older historic programs in Fairfax County - say from 1970s-80s - and those folks still take great pride in those times and love to talk about it. And I actually enjoy hearing about it. I guess I should tell them to shut it?

And your analogy while possibly prospective is not necessarily a good one for the point you may be trying to make. Annandale opened in 1954 and they won their first state title in 1965. And their most recent in 1994. That's 29 years apart and 40 years after they opened.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nope1 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 08:16AM

Burke2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I know just think soco doesnt deserve the hype


Then stop giving it to them on this site!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: grassy knoll 1 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 08:25AM

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:02PM

Would the below Centreville "fan" PLEASE GET OFF THE THREAD? For anyone who is wondering - these posts are all from the SAME PERSON.

Posted by: totally overrated Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 09:56PM

Posted by: agreed on Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:00PM

Posted by: Westfield sux ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:09PM

Posted by: Westfield is ok I guess ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:12PM

Posted by: Participation ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:14PM

Posted by: Manny Smith got the last laugh ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:17PM

Posted by: Westfield Bulldog fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:18PM

Posted by: Mediocre Westfield ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:19PM

Posted by: Westfield fans ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:21PM

Posted by: I know yeah ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:24PM

Posted by: Cvilleturnovers ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:29PM

Posted by: somebody want to run the ball ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:31PM

Posted by: Westfield parent ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:35PM

Posted by: Gameday TV boy ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:36PM

Posted by: I I believe I believe we ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:44PM

Posted by: nobody carez ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:52PM

Posted by: all NR done ()
Date: October 23, 2015 10:55PM

Posted by: Westfield overrated ()
Date: October 23, 2015 11:10PM

Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 07:59AM

Posted by: Cville Envy syndrome ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:17AM

Posted by: Its the westfield hype ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:34AM

Posted by: Westfield hypes ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:38AM

Posted by: Pick this ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:45AM

Posted by: Grassy knoll boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:46AM

Posted by: Go Bills ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:49AM

Posted by: Westfield fans are mean ()
Date: October 24, 2015 08:54AM

Posted by: What hype (response) ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:05AM

Posted by: Trips to state finals ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:08AM

Posted by: Concorde Amazed ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:10AM

Posted by: Have to agree concorde vet ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:15AM

Posted by: Go see a psychiatrist ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:24AM
Posted by: Be specific ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:37AM

Posted by: Westfield is dainty ()
Date: October 24, 2015 09:41AM

Posted by: Even more interesting ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:36AM

Posted by: agreed true that ()
Date: October 24, 2015 11:42AM

Posted by: Westfield fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:03PM

Posted by: Pansy fans 1 ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:07PM

Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 12:33PM

Posted by: earn the respect ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:03PM

Posted by: frosh boy ()
Date: October 24, 2015 01:34PM

Posted by: stupid is stupid does Westfld ()
Date: October 24, 2015 02:38PM

Posted by: Yep thanks Steve k2 ()
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Wow talk about conspiracy theories. But I know that I send three of these posts but have no ideas about the others.....don't you get out a lot Rydell?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 10:00AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> I see both Oakton and Chantilly lost in OT.
> Anyone at those games can give any detail about
> how those went down?

Nice rundown of the BW-Chantilly game here:
http://www.bwhsports.org/main/teamarticle/id/0/articleID/40189644/seasonid/3802749

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton - Broad Run ()
Date: October 26, 2015 03:43PM

> I see both Oakton and Chantilly lost in OT.
> Anyone at those games can give any detail about
> how those went down?

Oakton v. Broad Run was a great game. It was 0-0 at the half, and was 14-14 at the end of regulation. Oakton scored with less than a minute to go to send the game to OT.

In the first OT, Oakton had the ball first (and scored). and BR tied it when they got the ball. Second OT, BR had the ball first and scored on what could have been called offensive PI as the BR receiver pushed off, but there was no flag. WHen Oakton got possession, they had third and goal and fumbled the ball to BR. Game over.

Both teams were missing key players. Oakton's starting QB was out, and BR's running back was out. Offensively, the QBs for both teams played exceptionally well. Bricker for BR and Bacon for Oakton made play after play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Broad Run-Oakton ()
Date: October 26, 2015 06:36PM

Very reliable synopsis of this game, although Broad Run was mssiing their top two defenders ( All-Region middle linebacker and All-State safety and running back).

Is Oakton's injured QB much better than Bacon? Where does Bacon play when he is not the QB, as he clearly must start at some other position if not 1st string QB.

Great high school football game between two well coached teams.

I think Broad Run will have their hands full with Robinson, but should be competitive if their studs can get cleared in time for Friday.

Also, kudos to Briar Woods for gut check win over Chantilly. Everything has gone agains them this year, but they could have packed it in for the season, which is exactly what would have happened if they had lost.

No idea what happened to Stone Bridge against Tuscarora. Tusky is now 9-0, but some of those wins have been of the miracle variety. To blow out Stone Bridge was not expected.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: where is it ()
Date: October 26, 2015 06:59PM

Enough already with this constant babble about these teams, when can we start talking about the Westfield Centreville rivalry?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: October 26, 2015 08:05PM

> > I dont have the time to run scenarios but I
> think
> > the top 16 are pretty much locked in. Patriot
> is
> > only going to win 1 more game. Woodson is
> > probably not going to win another. TC Williams
> > could maybe win their last 2. Osbourn will
> only
> > win 1 more. Who is going to make a move into
> the
> > top 16 other than those that are already there?
> am
> > i wrong?
>
> I'd have to run the numbers, and that is
> incredibly complicated, but I don't think that
> everyone in the top 16 are locked in. I'm
> thinking that any team that is currently in the
> top 12 is locked in, but teams that are in 13-16
> may not yet have it sewn up. Keep in mind that
> Yorktown (#15) and W-L (#16) play each other the
> final weekend of the season, and if a team below
> them gets a win, the loser of that game could be
> out.
>
> Here is the full remaining schedule for teams 13 -
> 16:
>
> 13. Centreville: @ Chantilly, v. Robinson
> 14. Annandale: v. TC Williams, @ West
> Springfield
> 15. Yorktown: @ Langley, v. Washington-Lee
> 16. Washington-Lee: v. Madison, @ Yorktown
>
> The schedules for the four teams outside:
>
> 17. Patriot: @ Osbourn Park, @ Battlefield
> 18. Woodson: v. West Springfield, @ TC Williams
> 19. TC Williams: @ Annandale, v. Woodson
> 20. Osbourn: BYE, @ Osbourn Park
>
> I think Langley also bears watching: If they can
> knock off Yorktown this weekend (and I think that
> is a favorable match up for them), they should
> finish the season with two consecutive wins
> (McLean is their last opponent). In fact, their
> schedule is the most favorable of any of the
> potential contenders. Their only question is
> whether they are in too deep of a hole to be
> overcome by two consecutive wins.

I decided to do some calculations. It's still too complicated to craft every scenario, but what I did was calculate a "worst case" points scenario for the current last four in, and a "best case" points scenario for the first four out. These calculations would be worst case/best case point scenarios just after this weekend's action.

Worst case for last four in:

- Centreville: 215 points
- Annandale: 212 points
- Yorktown: 210 points
- W-L: 213 points

Best case for first four out:

- Patriot: 214
- Woodson: 221
- TCW: 218
- Osbourn: 204

Osbourn won't see much movement because they have a bye this week, and therefore, it's hard to see how they get in. The situation for everyone else is fairly fluid. W-L plays Yorktown in the last week, and Woodson plays TCW, and both of those games (but especially W-L at Yorktown) could prove to be elimination games -- winner is in, loser is out.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: good boy ()
Date: October 27, 2015 07:13PM

I like foosball

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: October 27, 2015 09:05PM

Jarrett Bacon is Oakton's top WR, and has been since his sophomore year. I understand he is getting Div I FCS looks, but don't know the exact schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I'll Pass on the Bacon ()
Date: October 27, 2015 10:36PM

Nice player, but not a D1 talent in any way, shape, or form. Unless he has a 2100 on his SAT's and a 4.2 GPA. Then he can go play for an Ivy.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 28, 2015 11:00AM

Broad Run (-3.0) @ Robinson
*I love this matchup, Broad Run has been a little down early, but I like their pass game in this matchup.

I'm going with Robinson in the upset

Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
*Another great game. Can Chantilly finally beat Centreville after some UGLY performances the past several years? I like the Chargers in a close, bigtime win for them.

Chantilly has to strike while the iron is . . . cool.


Edison (-7.0) @ Lee

Lee pulls this one out.

Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
*Falls Church has been hitting their stride the past couple weeks, but TJ and Edison are obviously nowhere near the talent of the Concorde. Look for the Cougars to cruise in this one.

Oakton wins but doesn't cover that spread.

Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)

35 might not be enough here. Herndon is a bad, bad football team.


Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon

and 49.5 may not be enough here, either.

Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee

Madison wins and covers.

Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart

Marshall wins and covers

Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
*Good game here, Stone Bridge is so up and down, I look for an up week this Friday.

Potomac Falls takes advantage of a schizo Stone Bridge team and wins by 4.


South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
*Really on the fence about this one; it should be a fun game to watch.

Hayfield wins and covers.


TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
*This should be another fun game, with pretty even talent on both sides.

TC gets one here.

Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson

Wakefield wins but doesn't cover.

West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)
I think the Wolverine's are the turd in the SoCo/LB Punchbowl next week. WestPo knocks off the Stallions. You read it here first.


West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson
West Springfield wins but doesn't cover that spread.


Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0)
Yorktown in the upset.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Steve fan ()
Date: October 28, 2015 12:03PM

My picks:


> Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
> *Another great game. Can Chantilly finally beat
> Centreville after some UGLY performances the past
> several years? I like the Chargers in a close,
> bigtime win for them.

I think Chantilly wins, which, given this line, is the same as winning and covering.
>
> Edison (-7.0) @ Lee

Who knows? I'll take Edison to win, but not cover.
>
> Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
> *Falls Church has been hitting their stride the
> past couple weeks, but TJ and Edison are obviously
> nowhere near the talent of the Concorde. Look for
> the Cougars to cruise in this one.

Oakton wins, but doesn't cover
>
> Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)

Westfield wins and covers.
>
> Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon

I hate to give 49 points and I usually would take the underdog with this big of a spread, but not here, given the teams involved. LB wins and covers
>
> Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee

I generally don't think the Arlington teams are very good, but I have to give credit to WL for making some adjustments to get three consecutive wins (even though they were against three teams that have a combined 2 wins among them). However, Madison is in a different league from Langley, Fairfax, and McLean. Madison's biggest danger is that they look past WL to their showdown next week v. Hayfield. While that could happen, I don't think Madison or their coaches will allow it to. Madison wins and covers.
>
> Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart

Marshall wins and covers. Who would have ever expected Marshall to be a 35 point FAVORITE? They have recently played the role of 35 point underdogs. It's amazing what a competition realignment will do for a team's fortunes. Even though they are playing lesser competition this year, a win is still a win, and I'm sure the boys are happy to be winning for once.
>
> Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
> *Good game here, Stone Bridge is so up and down, I
> look for an up week this Friday.

I'm going to take Stone Bridge to win and cover.
>
> South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
> *Really on the fence about this one; it should be
> a fun game to watch.

I'm on the fence as well, but I'll take Hayfield to win and cover. I think they will win by a TD.
>
> TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
> *This should be another fun game, with pretty even
> talent on both sides.

This is definitely an even match up. I'll take Annandale to win and cover at home.
>
> Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson

Wakefield wins and covers.
>
> West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)

Both teams are good teams, but I think in Conference 7, SC and LB are on a higher level than West Po and WS (both of whom occupy the second tier). I'll take SoCo to win and cover.
>
> West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson

I hope Woodson enjoyed their win last week, because it's the last one they'll get this year. West Springfield wins and covers.
>
> Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0).

I'd really like to punt on predicting this game. Yorktown is 3-5, but I really don't think they are as good as their record indicates. Langley is 1-7, but I don't think they are as bad as their record indicates. If I had to guess, I'd take Langley to win, but not cover.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jiimy the Geek ()
Date: October 28, 2015 01:41PM

West Potomac Has the Athletes to play with SOCO, West Potomac's Pass Game could Challenge SOCO's Secondary....THIS GAME will be the UPSET alert of the WEEK!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: big boy ()
Date: October 28, 2015 01:44PM

Is Madison for real? They have not been good for 5 years and they have performed exceptionally this year. Who are their biggest contributors?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: West Po Guy ()
Date: October 28, 2015 02:21PM

Not so sure, I would feel better vs South County if we wouldn't have lost our #1 D-1 level WR CJ Burch who was near the top of metro area receivers with 43 catches for 829 yds and 6 TDs. we have a couple other good WRs but he was a game changer. He hit Langley for 200 yds and Lake Braddock for 146 and Woodson for 152. He is out for the year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: October 28, 2015 02:46PM

"Nice player, but not a D1 talent in any way, shape, or form. Unless he has a 2100 on his SAT's and a 4.2 GPA. Then he can go play for an Ivy."

WHich is why I said "FCS." There is a vast difference between say, Alabama - a top FBS school - and say, Georgetown, a Division non-scholarship school in the Patriot League. He definitely has the skill set to play at some FCS schools. Have no clue about his grades.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Liberty Conf 6 guy ()
Date: October 28, 2015 03:40PM

big boy Wrote:
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> Is Madison for real? They have not been good for
> 5 years and they have performed exceptionally this
> year. Who are their biggest contributors?

Madison has a talented core of senior three year starters that experienced the 1 win season two years ago and went 5-5 last year. The QB is very good and he has some nice targets to throw to. I suspect the thing that will hold them back is mediocre coaching.

The last year they were good in '12 they lost to a very mediocre SoCo team in the first round of the playoffs and should have beaten Oakton this year as they are obviously down from previous years. Madisons best wins this year have been against an inconsistent Stone Bridge team and a talented but inexperienced South Lakes team. THey should win Conf 6 but I don't think they have what it takes to make a deep playoff run.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: October 28, 2015 03:54PM

Liberty Conf 6 guy Wrote:
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> big boy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is Madison for real? They have not been good
> for
> > 5 years and they have performed exceptionally
> this
> > year. Who are their biggest contributors?
>
> Madison has a talented core of senior three year
> starters that experienced the 1 win season two
> years ago and went 5-5 last year. The QB is very
> good and he has some nice targets to throw to. I
> suspect the thing that will hold them back is
> mediocre coaching.
>
> The last year they were good in '12 they lost to a
> very mediocre SoCo team in the first round of the
> playoffs and should have beaten Oakton this year
> as they are obviously down from previous years.
> Madisons best wins this year have been against an
> inconsistent Stone Bridge team and a talented but
> inexperienced South Lakes team. THey should win
> Conf 6 but I don't think they have what it takes
> to make a deep playoff run.

If Hayfield beats South Lakes this Friday, the Madison/Hayfield game will be for the championship. I[m assuming Madison will beat WL, which I think is likely. If SL beats Hayfield, then a Madison loss to Hayfield will set up a three way tie atop the standings. At the beginning of the season, I was calling for Madison to win Conference 6. The prevailing opinion was that Hayfield would win, and that Yorktown would be more competition for Hayfield than Madison. Hayfield might still win, but Madison should be no worse than second place.

I'm not surprised that Madison is at the top of the conference, but I'm more surprised about South Lakes success this season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: October 28, 2015 05:15PM

Madison is a good team. The Oakton/Madison game was a good game. Were Madison to play Oakton now, I think Madison would win going away. I see two big question marks with Madison: their depth, and their team speed.

That said, I like Gastrock, Ebersole and Counts. They are solid players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: October 28, 2015 05:44PM

Oakton Wrote:
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> Madison is a good team. The Oakton/Madison game
> was a good game. Were Madison to play Oakton now,
> I think Madison would win going away. I see two
> big question marks with Madison: their depth, and
> their team speed.
>
> That said, I like Gastrock, Ebersole and Counts.
> They are solid players.


For what it's worth, Madison is currently in 4th place, with 235 overall points. They are behind Westfield, who has 250, and ahead of Battlefield and West Springfield, tied for 5th place with 226 points. I don't see Madison moving higher than 4th. They could drop to 6th with a loss in their final game, depending on how the others do. For all practical purposes I think they are locked into 4th. If the playoffs started today, they would play the 13th placed team, which is currently Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jimmy Da Greek ()
Date: October 28, 2015 07:32PM

Let me drop some knowledge on you... No need to discuss the blowouts, just intriguing matchups!


Stone Bridge over Potomac Falls - Pot Falls' record (6-2)is a bit deceiving. Briar Woods is their only win over a decent opponent, and Briar is 3-6 this year. Stone Bridge gets QB back and rolls in last two games. Tough playoff opponent for anyone.


Robinson over Broad Run - Not an upset, if you ask me. Broad Run is pretty beat up, a product of not having any patsies on their schedule since Langley. Spartans are more athletic and typically destroy those teams with less athleticism, but do have trouble with strong teams and their power running game. Should be close, but Robinson has the edge.

Langley over Yorktown - Langley has had a tough season. They take their frustrations out on a very mediocre Yorktown team.

Chantilly over Centreville - Good Chantilly offense runs up some points on average Centreville defense. Might not be that close unless Wildcats can score some points early.

Lee over Edison - Steve have Lee getting 7. I'll take that. They have a slightly better showing against common opponents.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The Turdinator ()
Date: October 28, 2015 10:33PM

West Poo is the turd in the punch bowl but the SC prisoners will give them another black eye for the season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wow! ()
Date: October 29, 2015 08:46AM

The Turdinator Wrote:
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> West Poo is the turd in the punch bowl but the SC
> prisoners will give them another black eye for the
> season.


This guy!!??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MURAN MAN ()
Date: October 30, 2015 12:25PM

Muran, any insight on tonight's games?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran' ()
Date: October 30, 2015 02:22PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 30, 2015 05:13PM

Broad Run (-3.0) @ Robinson
Tough game to pick. I’ll take Broad Run 27-20

Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
Chantilly needs to win this game. I’ll take them 42-41 in Double OT

Edison (-7.0) @ Lee
Mehhhh. Lee seems to have improved throughout the season. Ill take the Lancers 28-21
Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
Falls Church is very different without Mejia. Oakton 42-0

Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)
Herndon is really bad. Westfield 49-6

Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon
Lake Braddock rolls 63-7

Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee
Madison will punch WL in the mouth. 28-6

Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart
Marshall rebounds 38-8

Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
Poc Falls is a serious contender in D5. I think experience will be the deciding factor however. SB wins 38-27 in the game of the week.

South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
This is a tough one to call. SL appears to have more weapons but Hayfield has the best player on the field. I’m taking Hayfield 39-28

TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
Matthie has his hands full. I think Annandale steals this one late. 24-20

Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson
Wakefield is rolling but will get owned in the playoffs. Wakefield wins 40-0

West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)
Don’t sleep on West Poc… Hopefully SC isn’t looking ahead to next week. I think SC will be focused and win 48-2.

West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson
Hmmm. On paper this should be a West Springfield blowout but something tells me the Woodson will find a way to stay in it. I’ll take WS but not by 4 TDs. 35-21

Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0)
Tough season for Langley. I think they find a way though. 28-26

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: October 30, 2015 05:14PM

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 30, 2015 05:19PM

West Potomac @ South County (-14.5) *Correction*
Don’t sleep on West Poc… Hopefully SC isn’t looking ahead to next week. I think SC will be focused and win 48-28.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Week 9 ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:35PM

Early Results

Stone bridge 20 pot falls 17
Cville 37 Chantilly 20
West pot 20 SOCO 53
Oak ton 41 Fallschurch 7
Robinson 31 broad run 20
Westfield 48 Herndon 17
Lake Braddock 63 some poor bullied kids 0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville yeah ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:40PM

You think one of the top tier teams is going to be happy when it sees its first round game will be against Cville? No gimme there like it would be against some of the other teams that will get in the bottom 8 of the round of 16. Go Wildcats.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Week 9 continued ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:41PM

South Lakes 35 Hayfield 14
Woodson 35 West Springfield 28, OT

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wat da heck ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:43PM

Thought West Springfield was supposed to be good....yikes - Woodson is a basketball school nowhere near a football school.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Steve who? ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:54PM

Has Steve every blown a pick by 35 points like WS-Woodson tonight?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Vienna blues ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:57PM

Just Madison's luck, finally pull a 4 or 5 seed only to get their a$$ kicked by Cville first Round...too many chili Dogs....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Blowing picks ()
Date: October 30, 2015 10:58PM

We talkin blowin picks or blowin Dudes?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran' ()
Date: October 30, 2015 11:01PM

Me blo dudes because I'm really sorry white boy

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wt WOODson ()
Date: October 31, 2015 12:48AM

West Springfield lost to Woodson.....where's the Peter Muskett hype now dads?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 31, 2015 08:12AM

A lot of surprises this week. Botched a few games but that's what keeps it interesting. I cannot recall a 4 touchdown favorite of mine ever losing, so way to go and kudos to Woodson. To West Springfield, I think we have a new poster child for inconsistent. This might be the most surprised I was at a score the last few years.

Broad Run (-3.0) @ Robinson
*Robinson won 31-20. Broad Run is depleted and fizzling out toward the finish line. Great win for the Rams who continue to give solid performance after solid performance. Keep in mind they lost to Lake Braddock by 7 and Westfield by 3; in a cold weather game with their running game, they can be a very intriguing postseason team.

Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
*Centreville won 37-20. Another wrong. You know what though, Chantilly always fizzles the second half of the regular season, I'm not surprised. Centreville looked very respectable in this one, I'm not saying their on the same level as the big dogs this year, but if I am a high seed I would hate this matchup. Chantilly for that matter too, with their passing game if they can draw someone from the Liberty, look out.

Edison (-7.0) @ Lee
*Edison won 35-20.

Falls Church @ Oakton (-28.0)
*Oakton won 41-7.

Herndon @ Westfield (-35.0)
*Westfield won 48-17.

Lake Braddock (-49.5) @ Mount Vernon
*Lake Braddock won 63-0.

Madison (-21.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Madison won 21-13.

Marshall (-35.0) @ Stuart
*Marshall won 39-19.

Potomac Falls @ Stone Bridge (-3.0)
*Stone Bridge won 20-17. Look at that, nailed one! To the above poster saying Pot Falls doesn't have extremely quality wins, yes, but they've shown me they can play with anyone in Loudoun, losing by a FG to Tuscarora and Stone Bridge. 5A is so up for grabs and this team is right up there with everyone. This team actually reminds me of the '06 Chantilly team from the standpoint they have made a huge jump in talent and are losing to the big dogs in such close games. By the time they get to the playoffs though, their confidence will be high and just like Chantilly that year a region run would not surprise me in the least. Sometimes I think losing a super close game can be an advantage in a rematch.

South Lakes @ Hayfield (-3.0)
*South Lakes wins 35-14. Trey Taylor has got to be in the discussion for coach of the year, but there's a couple who will leap frog him, being Madison and Robinson's coaches.

TC Williams @ Annandale (-6.0)
*Annandale won 21-0.

Wakefield (-40.0) @ Jefferson
*Wakefield won 42-0.

West Potomac @ South County (-14.5)
*South County with a big 53-20 win; was like a 2 point game at halftime. Sets up the GAME OF THE YEAR against 9-0 Lake Braddock next week.

West Springfield (-28.0) @ Woodson
*Woodson won 35-28; read above in my monologue. Shocker!

Yorktown @ Langley (-7.0)
*Langley won 48-23.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Liberty conf 6 guy ()
Date: October 31, 2015 09:54AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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>
> Centreville @ Chantilly (-1.0)
> *Centreville won 37-20. Another wrong. You know
> what though, Chantilly always fizzles the second
> half of the regular season, I'm not surprised.
> Centreville looked very respectable in this one,
> I'm not saying their on the same level as the big
> dogs this year, but if I am a high seed I would
> hate this matchup. Chantilly for that matter too,
> with their passing game if they can draw someone
> from the Liberty, look out.

I love the way chantilly fans rationalize their consistent mediocrity by virtue of playing in the ultra competitive Concorde. The difference is that the top Concorde teams of past seasons never lost to teams like Herndon last year or Yorktown two years ago (Yorktown had a good record but played a weak schedule).

It appears that now the hope is to draw a liberty patsy in the first round of regionals so they can claim a playoff win before a legit program sends them home. I think Madison, south lakes or hayfield would relish drawing chantilly in the first round because they know who they really are, a liberty conference team that happens to play in the Concorde.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ouch ()
Date: October 31, 2015 10:30AM

I love the way chantilly fans rationalize their consistent mediocrity by virtue of playing in the ultra competitive Concorde. The difference is that the top Concorde teams of past seasons never lost to teams like Herndon last year or Yorktown two years ago (Yorktown had a good record but played a weak schedule).

It appears that now the hope is to draw a liberty patsy in the first round of regionals so they can claim a playoff win before a legit program sends them home. I think Madison, south lakes or hayfield would relish drawing chantilly in the first round because they know who they really are, a liberty conference team that happens to play in the Concorde.

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Ouch!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: October 31, 2015 11:08AM

Does Woodson even have to beat TC now?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 11:34AM

Updated 6A Standings:

6A North
South County (313) 34.78
Lake Braddock (305) 33.89
Westfield (289) 32.11
Madison (280) 31.11
Robinson (270) 30.00
South Lakes (265) 29.44
West Potomac (255) 28.33
Battlefield (253) 28.11
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Hayfield (249) 27.67
West Springfield (248) 27.56
Oakton (240) 26.67
Centreville (235) 26.11
Annandale (228) 25.33
Chantilly (227) 25.22
W.T. Woodson (218) 24.22
Washington-Lee (216) 24.00
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Yorktown (214) 23.78
Patriot (211) 23.44
Langley (200) 22.22
T.C. Williams (199) 22.11
Osbourn (195) 21.67
Herndon (195) 21.67
Mount Vernon (189) 21.00
McLean (181) 20.11
Osbourn Park (174) 19.33
Fairfax (173) 19.22
Stonewall Jackson (187) 18.70

At first glance, W-L at Yorktown this will coming up looks like it will, in fact be the elimination game that it was predicted it would be. Woodson got a huge points bonanza by beating West Springfield. Coupled with TC Williams' loss, it looks like Woodson @ TC next week will no longer be an elimination game, because it looks like TC won't be able to catch #16. I don't think Woodson has it quite locked down yet, because it looks like Patriot could still catch them if they win next week, and Woodson loses. Patriot plays Battlfield, so a win will be a tall order for them.

I think Chantilly, and everyone above Chantilly has clinched a playoff berth. If Yorktown wins and Chantilly loses, it still looks like Yorktown won't get enough points more than Chantilly to pass Chantilly. Since Yorktown is the first team on the outside, that would be the test of whether Chantilly has clinched.

West Springfield's unexpected loss knocked them out of a first round home game.

I'm not sure if Westfield, with a win, could catch Lake Braddock if LB were to lose to SC. If I'm right about that, LB v. SC next week is for the overall regular season championship

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ouch? ()
Date: October 31, 2015 11:39AM

Where did a tilly fan rationalize anything? Don't see that. I see stevek2 who I don't think is a chantilly guy was actually appropriately critical of the team. Steve is spot on. Tilly has some serious line issue but has but has just enough to give any 4 seed or below a big fight.

And I doubt hayfield or madison would want them.....as a fact check tilly beat hayfield last year at hayfield easily.and beat madison last year as well.

Somebody a bit touchy about their own squad maybe?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: October 31, 2015 01:09PM

I'm not sure if Westfield, with a win, could catch Lake Braddock if LB were to lose to SC. If I'm right about that, LB v. SC next week is for the overall regular season championship

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What championship is that? I assume you're referring to the Conference 7 championship awarded to the winner of the SOCO vs. LB game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 02:05PM

Observation Wrote:
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> I'm not sure if Westfield, with a win, could catch
> Lake Braddock if LB were to lose to SC. If I'm
> right about that, LB v. SC next week is for the
> overall regular season championship
>
> -------------------
>
> What championship is that? I assume you're
> referring to the Conference 7 championship awarded
> to the winner of the SOCO vs. LB game.

Yes, I goofed on that, and realized it after I posted (and was too late to correct). The winner is definitely the Conference 7 champ. The winner is also the regular season Northern Region 6A champ, that is, the team that has the most points overall and gets the top seed in the playoffs. The point that I was trying to make was whether the loser of the game keeps second place overall, or would fall to third.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: October 31, 2015 02:41PM

Yes, I goofed on that, and realized it after I posted (and was too late to correct). The winner is definitely the Conference 7 champ. The winner is also the regular season Northern Region 6A champ, that is, the team that has the most points overall and gets the top seed in the playoffs. The point that I was trying to make was whether the loser of the game keeps second place overall, or would fall to third.

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That's what I thought. Not sure Westfield could jump up a spot given the disparity in points. I guess a lot has to do with how everyone's opponents finish out as well.

I'm pretty sure though there isn't a regular season Northern Region 6A champ. That's what the playoff bracket is, to earn that distinction. Under the new format there are only Conference champions then the one team crowned Region champion.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson Rams? ()
Date: October 31, 2015 03:11PM

So, to be upfront, I wentto this game to scout Broad Run. I help out with one of the Stafford County schools who will likely being playing the best of Loudoun for the D5 regionals. What struck me about this game was how Robinson played. They had a big advantage in the running game, and could have just played hard and went home with a victory. This is a very dirty team! All D6 opponents should take note. It clearly seems as though they are taught to chop block. Although it was only called twice, it could have been called 20 times. That is bush. They were also targeting the heads of the Broad Run kids, and did manage to knock out the QB with a dirty hit that wasn't called at halftime. I think they had 13 penalties called, and it sure seemed to me like the refs were trying to help out Robinson. In fact, except for a bothed snap on a punt that was returned for a touchdown, and a phantom incomplete call on an apparent touchdown catch, Robinson could have just as easily lost because of the personal fouls that were called. A review of the game tape will reveal the dirty plays, so you don't have to take my word for it. It is too bad, because, as Steve pointed out, they can play with anyone in the region. They had better do it this year, because this is a senior-ladden team with big problems next year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: robinson sux ()
Date: October 31, 2015 03:36PM

Robinson has always been dirty, bunch of stuck up UVA frat wannabes that end up going nowhere...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hey, NR Football Fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 03:41PM

If you are a football fan that even cares about whether or not Yorktown makes the D6 playoffs, surely you also have an interest in the D5 ratings.
Can you post those as well? And, can you share where you get these ratings so quickly? :) Thanks!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just so you know... ()
Date: October 31, 2015 03:51PM

There is a chance that South County could still hold on to the top spot with a loss.

Not a great chance, but since they are 8 points up on Braddock now, if South County loses (14 points) Braddock's win (26 points) could still find themselves short if South County were to get more bonus points next week.

Just sayin'...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:06PM

Robinson Rams? Wrote:
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> So, to be upfront, I wentto this game to scout
> Broad Run. I help out with one of the Stafford
> County schools who will likely being playing the
> best of Loudoun for the D5 regionals. What struck
> me about this game was how Robinson played. They
> had a big advantage in the running game, and could
> have just played hard and went home with a
> victory. This is a very dirty team! All D6
> opponents should take note. It clearly seems as
> though they are taught to chop block. Although it
> was only called twice, it could have been called
> 20 times. That is bush. They were also targeting
> the heads of the Broad Run kids, and did manage to
> knock out the QB with a dirty hit that wasn't
> called at halftime. I think they had 13 penalties
> called, and it sure seemed to me like the refs
> were trying to help out Robinson. In fact, except
> for a bothed snap on a punt that was returned for
> a touchdown, and a phantom incomplete call on an
> apparent touchdown catch, Robinson could have just
> as easily lost because of the personal fouls that
> were called. A review of the game tape will reveal
> the dirty plays, so you don't have to take my word
> for it. It is too bad, because, as Steve pointed
> out, they can play with anyone in the region. They
> had better do it this year, because this is a
> senior-ladden team with big problems next year.

I think you are stretching things just a bit although I do recall they were called for chop blocks in the Westfield game also.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stretching things? ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:21PM

Stretching things? They did, in fact have 13 penalties. Two were for chop blocks.
Four personal fouls. They did have cheap hits and late hits. Nothing really to dispute.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:22PM

Hey, NR Football Fan Wrote:
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> If you are a football fan that even cares about
> whether or not Yorktown makes the D6 playoffs,
> surely you also have an interest in the D5
> ratings.
> Can you post those as well? And, can you share
> where you get these ratings so quickly? :) Thanks!


I got those from the Virginia Preps website. There is a special 6A discussion thread, and I copied them from what someone posted there. I looked for a similar posting for 5A, and I couldn't find one.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cut Blocks are legal ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:24PM

What people call a chop block is often legal within the tackle box, they just don't understand the definition. When an offensive lineman cuts a hard charging dlineman its legal and an essential part of an offensive lineman's tool set. An illegal chop block is when one lineman post or stands up a dlineman while another blocks below the waist.

outside the tackle box if a lead back or pulling lineman where to block below the waist that would be an illegal chop block and is considered dirty, however a corner back coming up on a big running back and taking him out below his knees is considered a good play. Go figure.

What Robinson does is what Navy and Georgia Tech and others do every week, they employ the use of the cut block it is legal and definitely not dirty.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ok, Robinson dad.... ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:29PM

Also at the game last night... on the Robinson side. They cheer late hits, they cheer dirty hits on the sideline. They targeted the knees of the defensive lineman when already engaged. Dirty, dirty pool. And why do I agree and think it is taught there? Because my friend and his friends were all very proud whenever someone didn't get up from the opposition, or when they cleaned a kid's clock out of bounds, but he was hurt. I know what a cut block is bro, and that ain't what they are doing!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson will get theres ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:33PM

Karma is a bitch baby

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All season with the dirty hits!. ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:35PM

I will be rooting for whomever Robinson is playing. Note - their JV sucks, and they are loaded with seniors. I hope to see them pounded into the ground next year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not a Robinson Dad or fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:37PM

Perhaps you're correct, and Robinson is dirty, but I doubt it. But, sorry, I guess you have some knowledge, but I've listened to idiots for years that mistake a cut block for a post and cut all the time. I'll watch Robinson tape this week and post back.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: lot of senior laden teams ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:50PM

You think the NR is down this year wait until next.....not much talent returning next year in most of the power teams this year....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Loudoun Fan ()
Date: October 31, 2015 04:58PM

To tell you the truth, Broad Run and Briar Woods return a lot of talent.
Not sure why they made all of the top Loudoun schools play a bunch of D6 schools though. They did take a beating playing difficult schedule week in and week out.

Some schools are "system" schools and will do well every year, but I agree -overall talent is down. This area is full of a lot of pussy parents and numbers are dwindling, especially among the white families of Fairfax and Loudoun. Look at the youth leagues - MUCH smaller than in year's past!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DixieCup ()
Date: October 31, 2015 05:10PM

Robinson is loaded with seniors, with 6 of them starting on O, and 6 on D, but most of the juniors are on Varsity and are either playing/ or backups. Robinson JV does suck ass, but that is because 95% of the JV starters are sophomores. Robinson will lose a lot of personnel, but they won't pull a centreville.
Oh yeah, any predictions for the ROBO v Cville game?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mark it down... ()
Date: October 31, 2015 05:15PM

Having seen both Centreville and Robinson, I can tell you this... It would surprise a hell of a lot of people if Centreville is able to win this one! I just can't see it. Much too small up front, and not enough athleticism at the skill positions.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: October 31, 2015 06:13PM

What's with the swinging gate PATs? Both Woodson and West Springfield used every time. Do it all season to maybe try the fake, what, once?

Also, if anybody else has seen Woodson that can explain why on offense after they are set, all players will stand up and look to the sideline? They did it almost every play earlier in the season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ur wrong ()
Date: October 31, 2015 06:20PM

If a corner comes up outside the box and blows up a pulling lineman with a below the waste block, it is considered a chop block, because we did it vs Robinson on any buck sweeps and their coaches were crying the blues.

Ref called it on us twice, saying illegal

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ACL, MCL road ()
Date: October 31, 2015 06:25PM

It's not the 1-2 calls max on chopping that are called on Robinson, it's the 15 to 20 that are not called and all anyone has to do is watch the film G-C-G launching at knees 7 out of 10 plays...it will get called going forward and it will cost them and it's not necessary.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: October 31, 2015 06:35PM

First off, nobody is cheering late hits or dirty plays. You're an idiot if you believe that. Both late hit calls occurred on the Broad Run side of the field so on the first one, when the Robinson player makes the tackle, it's impossible to see that it's happened out of bounds until the ref throws the flag. But I will say that the second late hit was bull since Embrey wasn't attempting to go out of bounds. It was a fourth down play and he was trying to get to the first down flag.

As far as the chop blocks, they aren't chop blocking. That's just poor officiating and not knowing what they're seeing. Obviously, that's the same issue with you.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wimpy McWimperson ()
Date: October 31, 2015 06:46PM

Wow, I guess the Broad Run's quarterbacks mother chimed in. Tell your son not to hold on to the ball for 8 seconds and try and scramble from mid-field on the final play of the half. Get rid of the ball on time and he could have avoided that hit. It was not dirty, but it was unfortunate. Also, Broad Run was fortunate to stop Robo on their first drive and give up only a field goal --- the score could have been worse.

Robinson took an equal number of penalties last year, and nobody was whining then --- undisciplined does not equal dirty.

There is no doubt that a chop block is illegal --- Robinson got call accordingly. They also got called for several holds -- does that make them dirty well?

If you can't hang with the big boys, find a 4A team to play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: October 31, 2015 07:00PM

I was at the game and I know the parents of the Broad Run QB and that was not a dirty hit. As someone said, it was an unfortunate hit in that he got hurt.

He started scrambling and turned into the hit as both defenders were engaging him. It's football. Robinson wasn't head hunting or hitting dirty, they were tackling.

Was it a dirty hit when the WR got sandwiched between two defenders and got hurt? No.

I will agree that the game could have gone the other way just as easily. If the Broad Run WR's could catch they might have run away with the game but they dropped more balls than I could count. The Robinson defense came to play and they got a beautiful one handed interception at the end zone that the refs called down on the 1 yard line.

If you think the refs were favoring Robinson then you were watching another game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The Truthy ()
Date: October 31, 2015 07:36PM

Sounds like some teams/coaches are getting afraid of Robinson. When you are physical people tend to call you dirty. Robinson might finally be back to what they used to be.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ur wrong ()
Date: October 31, 2015 08:24PM

no robinson is ok, don't get me wrong but the hold on most all plays n chop on others on every buck sweep they run, lets see what happens when soco puts that thump down on him

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: beating cville ()
Date: October 31, 2015 09:05PM

Anyone who saw centreville early this season will be surprised at the team they are becoming they've been dominating defensive lines on the oline for weeks they are catching up on defense. Missing two d1 line man can have that effect. Chant illy and Westfield can tell you about them.

Westfield was outgained and beaten on both sides of the line. Chantilly could not stop the run game gave up 285 rushing yards. Robinson treated chanttilly similar. them similar on the ground but they can't Throw the ball period. Centreville skill more then adequate.

This will be a very competitive game. Cville 28 Robinson 21

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Salty ()
Date: October 31, 2015 11:04PM

It honestly just sounds like a lot of salty broad run fans that thought they were supposed to win and when a team came out and beat them off the ball, they want to blame the loss on the fact there were penalties.

Some of the last few posters are right - when people play physical and tend to be good, everyone says they are dirty. When there was a dirty play there is a penalty and they get what's theirs. What people are calling "illegal chop blocks" are conpleltey legal in the box, and is used by every team. Actually... Broad run blocked that way a few times too. The ones where there were penalties were correctly called but if you say that every play there was one, you're just upset that when a 5A team came to play the big boys in 6A, you got your ass handed to you.

Regarding the cville vs Robinson game, it's a hard one to call. It seems as if centerville has been building momentum these past two games and they are obviously getting better from their original start. The deep passes that centerville likes to throw will be a threat to the Robinson pass defense but in my book that's the only thing that is effective against robinson. No team has been able to run on them and only a select 1 or 2 can actually get past the pass rush and compelete a ball. Robinsons offense is hit or miss but if they play well they are unstoppable. Centerville on the other hand has quick athletic people all around the field and are an explosive team - especially after their slow start and their recent wins/close games. I'd have to give it to Robinson but if they aren't focused and play their best, there is an upset in the works.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DeezNuts ()
Date: November 01, 2015 07:25AM

Apparently Robinson's new defensive coordinator was Centreville's previous DC for the 2013-2014 seasons. He was also coordinating during South County's 2011 l state run season as well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB fan ()
Date: November 01, 2015 09:32AM

Huge game this week. Who wins Lake Braddock or South County? Lake Braddock has had the upper hand the past few years despite the talent level being somewhat even.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 01, 2015 10:08AM

What a fantastic final week of regular season football. Obviously you have the game of the year with 9-0 South County travelling to 9-0 Lake Braddock for a conference championship; but a lot of other great games on the docket too. Robinson-Centreville will be a great one, Chantilly-Westfield is always a great environment, and then you have two Loudoun titans squaring off in the Tuscarora-Broad Run game.

South County @ Lake Braddock (-8.0)
*Let’s start with the big one; I like Lake Braddock here because they have the better defensive unit. Both teams have multiple big play weapons and consistently get up and down the field – so I look for this one coming down to turnovers which I think Braddock will win that battle. These are clearly the best two regular season teams in the region this year so I am very excited for this one (doesn’t mean this will be the region final though). If you are available, you should make it a point to get to this game. The atmosphere will be second-to-none.

Annandale @ West Springfield (-10.0)
*I still can’t believe the Spartans lost to Woodson. I look for the focused Spartans to show up against a dangerous Annandale team.

Chantilly @ Westfield (-15.0)
*Chantilly is reeling. I hate their offensive line going up against such a great defensive front 7. Chantilly’s qb is very good moving around the pocket, but Westfield will dial up all sorts of blitzes which should fluster Chantilly.

Edison @ Potomac Falls (-35.0)
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock

Fairfax @ South Lakes (-21.0)
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock. South Lakes has had a great year and should finish the regular season with another comfortable win.

Hayfield @ Madison (-7.0)
*Madison should win, but I think Hayfield will give them a good game here despite some scores against common opponents suggesting otherwise.

Jefferson @ Marshall (-35.0)
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock

Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*Should be a good rivalry game.

Lee @ Wakefield (-28.0)
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock

Mount Vernon @ West Potomac (-35.5)
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock

Oakton (-18.0) @ Herndon
*This week forget watching your kid play, go to South County-Lake Braddock

Robinson (-7.0) @ Centreville
*Here is a very intriguing team. Centreville’s confidence is increasing and a win against Robinson would be a statement heading into the playoffs. I love the physicality of these two teams, I just think Robinson is further along and better at what they do. I look for the Rams to handle the Wildcats in this one.

Stone Bridge (-13.0) @ Briar Woods
*This could be a good one. Briar Woods usually brings a competitive performance.

Stuart @ Falls Church (-3.0)
*This will be a good game for these two neighboring schools. Could go either way.

Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Broad Run
*A month ago these were clearly the best two in Loudoun; Broad Run has been depleted due to a tough schedule and injuries. Could still go either way but I feel confident picking the Tuskies here.

Washington-Lee (-1.0) @ Yorktown

Woodson @ TC Williams (-2.0)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Arlington mom ()
Date: November 01, 2015 01:48PM

The arch rivalry and playoff implications should make the W-L Yorktown game interesting. It will be close because of the rivalry, but W-L has the stronger defense. Could be a low scoring game and could go either way.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 01, 2015 06:30PM

Projections for last four in/first four out please.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 01, 2015 11:14PM

GAU Wrote:
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> Projections for last four in/first four out
> please.

In a post above, the current standings are posted after last weekend's action. I'll post teams that are in 13 - 20th places:

Annandale (228) 25.33
Chantilly (227) 25.22
W.T. Woodson (218) 24.22
Washington-Lee (216) 24.00
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Yorktown (214) 23.78
Patriot (211) 23.44
Langley (200) 22.22
T.C. Williams (199) 22.11

I don't think that Annandale and Chantilly can be knocked out of the playoffs, though if they lose, they may fall below 13th and 14th place. The numbers would have to be run. I don't think that Langley or TC can move up to playoff position, even with a win.

Winner of WL at Yorktown is in.

Patriot (4-5) plays Battlefield (7-2) on Friday. If Patriot were to pull that out, they would get 26 points for the win, plus 14 points (2X7) for each of Battlefield's wins. That, by itself gets them to 251. They will get 2 points because someone will win between Osbourn and Osbourn Park (both defeated by Patriot). That gets them to 253. They would get additional points under the VHSL rules if other teams on their schedule get wins (likely). If Patriot were to lose that game, they will get 14 points, plus one point for the additional Battlefield win, and two points for the winner of Osbourn/OP. That gets Patriot to 228, plus points depending on what the other teams on their schedule do.

Woodson currently has 218. They would get 30 points by beating TCW on Saturday. That gets them to 248. They will get one point based on the winner of LB/SoCO, two points if Mt. Vernon beats West PO and 1 point if West Po wins, two points if West Springfield beats Annandale and one point if Annandale wins, one point of Robo beats Centreville, one point if Chantilly beats Westfield, and two points if Fairfax beats South Lakes. If all of those games go against Woodson, they will get to 251. If all of those go Woodson's way, they will get to 257. If Woodson loses, they get 17 points (14 for the loss, plus three points for 3 TCW wins). That gets them to 235. They can get as few as 3 additional points. or as many as 9, with a final point total that would range from 238 to 244.

Based on this, if Patriot wins, Woodson is almost certainly eliminated, even before they play at TCW (that game is Saturday). On the other hand, if Patriot loses, Woodson is probably in regardless of what they do against TCW.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO SUCKS ()
Date: November 01, 2015 11:30PM

Saw somewhere that SC is ranked number 1 in VA.. What a joke this team is lucky to get out of the first rd in the north here's why.

1. I've never seen a team with more luck at the expense of opponent misfortune. Take a look at the Westfield game where 8 starters are suspended and they barely survive. Then the Woodson game Wr drop or are overthrown on at least 4 potential TD catches while wide open! Then they play West Po without them having their best receiver Ellis had no where to go with the ball the whole night. Braddock is coming into the game 100% as far as injuries and suspensions look for SC to get exposed.

2. SC offense is extremely turnover prone with that bullshit option based offense those kids drop pitches n fumble at an extremely high rate. #9 is decent but almost all his yards are from trick plays or blown coverages. The QB over there's arm is horrible and he makes terrible reads compare him to Edwards at LB.


3. And finally that god awful defense SC has west Springfield really dropped the formula to embarrass that team they bombed the stallions up and down the field the whole night their front seven is decent but the secondary is terrible. put that on top of their coach putting a terrible D in terrible field position with the bogus onside kick and go for every fourth down strategy and you have a shit show.

All in all I hope you SOCO fans enjoyed your season because your going to get exposed Friday at LB and the rest of your games in the playoffs if you guys couldn't stop WS or Woodson for that matter what do you think mansaray, Scott and company are going to do to you.... LB (-27) and playoff first rd exit for the stallions I'd bet the house on it!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jealous much? Soco hater ()
Date: November 02, 2015 08:18AM

Love it the hate is inspiring. dickweed get out of your mothers basement and enjoy the sport for what it is and or just hate on which seems just as much fun! Actually me hating on you does feel pretty good! I get it now!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: mbuMn ()
Date: November 02, 2015 09:51AM

Hmm... WS bombed the stallions up and down the field the whole night (but still lost), WTW dropped or are overthrew on at least 4 potential TD catches while wide open (that just confirms bad on WTW rather than SC), Westfield was without 10000 starters, but somehow won all their other games while in that same boat...

What you are essentially saying that all these teams failed to execute? ...sounds about right. They are teams that deservedly lost because they didn't do what they needed to do to win. SC did.

Before we go "oh, just wait until they play a playoff team"... 6 of their 9 wins are against teams that would currently be in the playoffs.

I haven't seen every school, but my biggest observation about SC that set them apart in some games I saw was this.... conditioning.

Decent teams can keep up with them for a half, maybe partway thru the 3rd quarter, but I've seen a few games this year where the other guys just couldn't hang with SC through four quarters. WestPo was one of them - competitive through halftime, then the Stallions ran away with it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Basement poster ()
Date: November 02, 2015 10:25AM

SOCO SUCKS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Saw somewhere that SC is ranked number 1 in VA..
> What a joke this team is lucky to get out of the
> first rd in the north here's why.
>
> 1. I've never seen a team with more luck at the
> expense of opponent misfortune. Take a look at the
> Westfield game where 8 starters are suspended and
> they barely survive. Then the Woodson game Wr drop
> or are overthrown on at least 4 potential TD
> catches while wide open! Then they play West Po
> without them having their best receiver Ellis had
> no where to go with the ball the whole night.
> Braddock is coming into the game 100% as far as
> injuries and suspensions look for SC to get
> exposed.
>
> 2. SC offense is extremely turnover prone with
> that bullshit option based offense those kids drop
> pitches n fumble at an extremely high rate. #9 is
> decent but almost all his yards are from trick
> plays or blown coverages. The QB over there's arm
> is horrible and he makes terrible reads compare
> him to Edwards at LB.
>
>
> 3. And finally that god awful defense SC has west
> Springfield really dropped the formula to
> embarrass that team they bombed the stallions up
> and down the field the whole night their front
> seven is decent but the secondary is terrible. put
> that on top of their coach putting a terrible D in
> terrible field position with the bogus onside kick
> and go for every fourth down strategy and you have
> a shit show.
>
> All in all I hope you SOCO fans enjoyed your
> season because your going to get exposed Friday at
> LB and the rest of your games in the playoffs if
> you guys couldn't stop WS or Woodson for that
> matter what do you think mansaray, Scott and
> company are going to do to you.... LB (-27) and
> playoff first rd exit for the stallions I'd bet
> the house on it!

You make some good points, and some really bad points.

Soco is and has been the top scoring offense in the state, despite turnovers, for the last four years now! They put up over 40 points on Braddock last year, with 7 turnovers. This is a dynamic offense that has 5-6 threats at any given time, and a QB that can run the ball if needed.

Soco's defense is suspect, but they've been put in terrible field position between turnovers and onside kicks the entire year, so that won't be something new to them against LB. This is a very athletic group who's improving week to week.

Just because you have a personal hate towards Soco. Don't miss out on the facts that no one said they would be 9-0 going into Braddock with the schedule they faced all year, so just chill and enjoy what could be a very good game Friday night.

Also, saying Soco is going to be a first round loser is simply silly, and you lose all credibility after posting it here. You my friend are a hater, and that is exactly what Soco likes. So make sure you come early and pay your $5 to watch a great game Friday between two very solid football teams.

This game is going to come down to who wants it more, and by the looks of it Soco is the hungrier team!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wonder what ()
Date: November 02, 2015 10:26AM

Wonder what MURAN thinks about the upcoming Soco Vs. LB game??!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Sucks ()
Date: November 02, 2015 10:33AM

Your point about them playing playoff teams is a weak one when teams like TCW are a game out of the hunt. SC isn't good there's no hate here just objectivity. Are any of their players going to play at the next level? I doubt it so obviously I'm not alone in this thinking look at LB multiple D1 guys and when they play inferior teams they dominate. So we'll see about "mighty SC on Friday"...

PS none of these Fcps programs would stand a chance against teams in the south, PWC,and definitely not MD or DC so let's all just be glad we play where we play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Basement man ()
Date: November 02, 2015 10:38AM

Basement poster Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO SUCKS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Saw somewhere that SC is ranked number 1 in
> VA..
> > What a joke this team is lucky to get out of
> the
> > first rd in the north here's why.
> >
> > 1. I've never seen a team with more luck at the
> > expense of opponent misfortune. Take a look at
> the
> > Westfield game where 8 starters are suspended
> and
> > they barely survive. Then the Woodson game Wr
> drop
> > or are overthrown on at least 4 potential TD
> > catches while wide open! Then they play West Po
> > without them having their best receiver Ellis
> had
> > no where to go with the ball the whole night.
> > Braddock is coming into the game 100% as far as
> > injuries and suspensions look for SC to get
> > exposed.
> >
> > 2. SC offense is extremely turnover prone with
> > that bullshit option based offense those kids
> drop
> > pitches n fumble at an extremely high rate. #9
> is
> > decent but almost all his yards are from trick
> > plays or blown coverages. The QB over there's
> arm
> > is horrible and he makes terrible reads compare
> > him to Edwards at LB.
> >
> >
> > 3. And finally that god awful defense SC has
> west
> > Springfield really dropped the formula to
> > embarrass that team they bombed the stallions
> up
> > and down the field the whole night their front
> > seven is decent but the secondary is terrible.
> put
> > that on top of their coach putting a terrible D
> in
> > terrible field position with the bogus onside
> kick
> > and go for every fourth down strategy and you
> have
> > a shit show.
> >
> > All in all I hope you SOCO fans enjoyed your
> > season because your going to get exposed Friday
> at
> > LB and the rest of your games in the playoffs
> if
> > you guys couldn't stop WS or Woodson for that
> > matter what do you think mansaray, Scott and
> > company are going to do to you.... LB (-27) and
> > playoff first rd exit for the stallions I'd bet
> > the house on it!
>
> You make some good points, and some really bad
> points.
>
> Soco is and has been the top scoring offense in
> the state, despite turnovers, for the last four
> years now! They put up over 40 points on Braddock
> last year, with 7 turnovers. This is a dynamic
> offense that has 5-6 threats at any given time,
> and a QB that can run the ball if needed.
>
> Soco's defense is suspect, but they've been put in
> terrible field position between turnovers and
> onside kicks the entire year, so that won't be
> something new to them against LB. This is a very
> athletic group who's improving week to week.
>
> Just because you have a personal hate towards
> Soco. Don't miss out on the facts that no one
> said they would be 9-0 going into Braddock with
> the schedule they faced all year, so just chill
> and enjoy what could be a very good game Friday
> night.
>
> Also, saying Soco is going to be a first round
> loser is simply silly, and you lose all
> credibility after posting it here. You my friend
> are a hater, and that is exactly what Soco likes.
> So make sure you come early and pay your $5 to
> watch a great game Friday between two very solid
> football teams.
>
> This game is going to come down to who wants it
> more, and by the looks of it Soco is the hungrier
> team!!

They dropped 40 after getting scorched for 60 and the game was over.. LB will spread them out n torch that awful secondary

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Still ()
Date: November 02, 2015 10:58AM

Basement man Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Basement poster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO SUCKS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Saw somewhere that SC is ranked number 1 in
> > VA..
> > > What a joke this team is lucky to get out of
> > the
> > > first rd in the north here's why.
> > >
> > > 1. I've never seen a team with more luck at
> the
> > > expense of opponent misfortune. Take a look
> at
> > the
> > > Westfield game where 8 starters are suspended
> > and
> > > they barely survive. Then the Woodson game Wr
> > drop
> > > or are overthrown on at least 4 potential TD
> > > catches while wide open! Then they play West
> Po
> > > without them having their best receiver Ellis
> > had
> > > no where to go with the ball the whole night.
> > > Braddock is coming into the game 100% as far
> as
> > > injuries and suspensions look for SC to get
> > > exposed.
> > >
> > > 2. SC offense is extremely turnover prone
> with
> > > that bullshit option based offense those kids
> > drop
> > > pitches n fumble at an extremely high rate.
> #9
> > is
> > > decent but almost all his yards are from
> trick
> > > plays or blown coverages. The QB over there's
> > arm
> > > is horrible and he makes terrible reads
> compare
> > > him to Edwards at LB.
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. And finally that god awful defense SC has
> > west
> > > Springfield really dropped the formula to
> > > embarrass that team they bombed the stallions
> > up
> > > and down the field the whole night their
> front
> > > seven is decent but the secondary is
> terrible.
> > put
> > > that on top of their coach putting a terrible
> D
> > in
> > > terrible field position with the bogus onside
> > kick
> > > and go for every fourth down strategy and you
> > have
> > > a shit show.
> > >
> > > All in all I hope you SOCO fans enjoyed your
> > > season because your going to get exposed
> Friday
> > at
> > > LB and the rest of your games in the playoffs
> > if
> > > you guys couldn't stop WS or Woodson for that
> > > matter what do you think mansaray, Scott and
> > > company are going to do to you.... LB (-27)
> and
> > > playoff first rd exit for the stallions I'd
> bet
> > > the house on it!
> >
> > You make some good points, and some really bad
> > points.
> >
> > Soco is and has been the top scoring offense in
> > the state, despite turnovers, for the last four
> > years now! They put up over 40 points on
> Braddock
> > last year, with 7 turnovers. This is a dynamic
> > offense that has 5-6 threats at any given time,
> > and a QB that can run the ball if needed.
> >
> > Soco's defense is suspect, but they've been put
> in
> > terrible field position between turnovers and
> > onside kicks the entire year, so that won't be
> > something new to them against LB. This is a
> very
> > athletic group who's improving week to week.
> >
> > Just because you have a personal hate towards
> > Soco. Don't miss out on the facts that no one
> > said they would be 9-0 going into Braddock with
> > the schedule they faced all year, so just chill
> > and enjoy what could be a very good game Friday
> > night.
> >
> > Also, saying Soco is going to be a first round
> > loser is simply silly, and you lose all
> > credibility after posting it here. You my
> friend
> > are a hater, and that is exactly what Soco
> likes.
> > So make sure you come early and pay your $5 to
> > watch a great game Friday between two very
> solid
> > football teams.
> >
> > This game is going to come down to who wants it
> > more, and by the looks of it Soco is the
> hungrier
> > team!!
>
> They dropped 40 after getting scorched for 60 and
> the game was over.. LB will spread them out n
> torch that awful secondary


Still scored 40, and that was the point. Thanks for reassuring it!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: You suck ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:01AM

SOCO Sucks Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your point about them playing playoff teams is a
> weak one when teams like TCW are a game out of the
> hunt. SC isn't good there's no hate here just
> objectivity. Are any of their players going to
> play at the next level? I doubt it so obviously
> I'm not alone in this thinking look at LB multiple
> D1 guys and when they play inferior teams they
> dominate. So we'll see about "mighty SC on
> Friday"...
>
> PS none of these Fcps programs would stand a
> chance against teams in the south, PWC,and
> definitely not MD or DC so let's all just be glad
> we play where we play.

Maybe the south, but seriously PWC and DC!! You are obviously at NR hater!! Like I said, pay your $5 to come watch.

Yeah big time recruits Marshall and Vandy, two quality programs haha!! Soco builds program kids, they don't get lucky to have two D-1 kids on their roster. LB kids have really torched the BCS, just ask UConn about that one haha!!

SC might, you'll just have to wait and see...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: xkxXK ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:02AM

SOCO Sucks Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your point about them playing playoff teams is a
> weak one when teams like TCW are a game out of the
> hunt.

That point was directly related to your statement that they'd lose in the first round... Not saying SC is so mighty because they beat 6 playoff teams... I'm saying 6 of the teams they've already beaten are better than whoever they'll draw as a 16 seed. To say a 9-0 team that has one of the best offenses in the state will most certainly lose in round 1 is really off base

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: :/ ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:27AM

You suck Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO Sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your point about them playing playoff teams is
> a
> > weak one when teams like TCW are a game out of
> the
> > hunt. SC isn't good there's no hate here just
> > objectivity. Are any of their players going to
> > play at the next level? I doubt it so obviously
> > I'm not alone in this thinking look at LB
> multiple
> > D1 guys and when they play inferior teams they
> > dominate. So we'll see about "mighty SC on
> > Friday"...
> >
> > PS none of these Fcps programs would stand a
> > chance against teams in the south, PWC,and
> > definitely not MD or DC so let's all just be
> glad
> > we play where we play.
>
> Maybe the south, but seriously PWC and DC!! You
> are obviously at NR hater!! Like I said, pay your
> $5 to come watch.
>
> Yeah big time recruits Marshall and Vandy, two
> quality programs haha!! Soco builds program kids,
> they don't get lucky to have two D-1 kids on their
> roster. LB kids have really torched the BCS, just
> ask UConn about that one haha!!
>
> SC might, you'll just have to wait and see...

D1 is D1 buddy where the SOCO kids going? Saw one of the bitching on Twitter about his recruiting... And look at all the talent in PWC those teams have big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC I'd love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to PG county outside of the NR the speed is just different. I'm not a hater I'm objective grew up in NR and graduated from WP NR just doesn't have the athletes like in the past

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:31AM

I think SoCo is most definitely a contender to win 6A North - but from what I have seen I think Lake Braddock has to be the favorite. Friday’s game could go a long way to forming everyone’s opinion - but keep in mind how hard it is to beat the same team twice in the same season.

SoCo played a nearly perfect game against Westfield (excepting those silly onside kick attempts that kept giving Westfield great field position - that really helped out Westfield’s struggling offense). I don’t know that the result would have been any different if Westfield had all their players for that game.

What would be interesting is if SoCo loses, Centreville loses to Robinson, and Soco ends up the #3 seed and Centreville the #14. Don’t know if that outcome is even possible but I could see Centreville upsetting Soco (or Westfield) if they land a #14 seed. The Centreville team I saw play Westfield is not the team I kept hearing about all season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yep ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:32AM

xkxXK Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO Sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your point about them playing playoff teams is
> a
> > weak one when teams like TCW are a game out of
> the
> > hunt.
>
> That point was directly related to your statement
> that they'd lose in the first round... Not saying
> SC is so mighty because they beat 6 playoff
> teams... I'm saying 6 of the teams they've already
> beaten are better than whoever they'll draw as a
> 16 seed. To say a 9-0 team that has one of the
> best offenses in the state will most certainly
> lose in round 1 is really off base

Correct!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 02, 2015 11:50AM

> And look at all the talent in PWC those teams have
> big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC I'd
> love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to PG
> county outside of the NR the speed is just
> different.

As everyone should have learned over the last 20 years - speed does not in and of itself = wins. If speed was everything Hayfield should have destroyed South Lakes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mathematician ()
Date: November 02, 2015 12:04PM

Soco no lower than 2 Seed. Do the Math.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I guess! ()
Date: November 02, 2015 01:00PM

:/ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You suck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Sucks Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Your point about them playing playoff teams
> is
> > a
> > > weak one when teams like TCW are a game out
> of
> > the
> > > hunt. SC isn't good there's no hate here just
> > > objectivity. Are any of their players going
> to
> > > play at the next level? I doubt it so
> obviously
> > > I'm not alone in this thinking look at LB
> > multiple
> > > D1 guys and when they play inferior teams
> they
> > > dominate. So we'll see about "mighty SC on
> > > Friday"...
> > >
> > > PS none of these Fcps programs would stand a
> > > chance against teams in the south, PWC,and
> > > definitely not MD or DC so let's all just be
> > glad
> > > we play where we play.
> >
> > Maybe the south, but seriously PWC and DC!!
> You
> > are obviously at NR hater!! Like I said, pay
> your
> > $5 to come watch.
> >
> > Yeah big time recruits Marshall and Vandy, two
> > quality programs haha!! Soco builds program
> kids,
> > they don't get lucky to have two D-1 kids on
> their
> > roster. LB kids have really torched the BCS,
> just
> > ask UConn about that one haha!!
> >
> > SC might, you'll just have to wait and see...
>
> D1 is D1 buddy where the SOCO kids going? Saw one
> of the bitching on Twitter about his recruiting...
> And look at all the talent in PWC those teams have
> big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC I'd
> love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to PG
> county outside of the NR the speed is just
> different. I'm not a hater I'm objective grew up
> in NR and graduated from WP NR just doesn't have
> the athletes like in the past

We're talking about winning games, really recruiting doesn't matter much when you're 9-0!!

Soco has as much team speed as any team in the area, you can count on that. They went down to Western Branch (a beach team) and dominated them offensively in a scrimmage, now they had legit D-1 talent. Recruiting is an individuals way of doing big things, a good team is what really matters.

You're from WP, so you might be a little salty from Soco's beat down of them last week. I completely understand.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tsk tsk ()
Date: November 02, 2015 01:22PM

:/ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You suck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Sucks Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Your point about them playing playoff teams
> is
> > a
> > > weak one when teams like TCW are a game out
> of
> > the
> > > hunt. SC isn't good there's no hate here just
> > > objectivity. Are any of their players going
> to
> > > play at the next level? I doubt it so
> obviously
> > > I'm not alone in this thinking look at LB
> > multiple
> > > D1 guys and when they play inferior teams
> they
> > > dominate. So we'll see about "mighty SC on
> > > Friday"...
> > >
> > > PS none of these Fcps programs would stand a
> > > chance against teams in the south, PWC,and
> > > definitely not MD or DC so let's all just be
> > glad
> > > we play where we play.
> >
> > Maybe the south, but seriously PWC and DC!!
> You
> > are obviously at NR hater!! Like I said, pay
> your
> > $5 to come watch.
> >
> > Yeah big time recruits Marshall and Vandy, two
> > quality programs haha!! Soco builds program
> kids,
> > they don't get lucky to have two D-1 kids on
> their
> > roster. LB kids have really torched the BCS,
> just
> > ask UConn about that one haha!!
> >
> > SC might, you'll just have to wait and see...
>
> D1 is D1 buddy where the SOCO kids going? Saw one
> of the bitching on Twitter about his recruiting...
> And look at all the talent in PWC those teams have
> big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC I'd
> love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to PG
> county outside of the NR the speed is just
> different. I'm not a hater I'm objective grew up
> in NR and graduated from WP NR just doesn't have
> the athletes like in the past


lol, can half the kids even qualify in PG or DC that's the important question. If they played in the NR they wouldn't be eligible most likely. They look great on the field but then try and get them into a classroom. So what supposed D1 coach is going to waste his time on a kid he can't even get onto the field anyways. Maybe not all, but more than half

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tsk tsk 2 ()
Date: November 02, 2015 01:27PM

Ask Centerville how fun it was to play Oscar Smith and punch em in the mouth. You sound crazy right now.

Half the teams in South are more than likely doing some kind of recruiting

didn't SOCO just recently go up to a team in MD and kick them in the mouth anyways, even if it was scrimmage contest, so you can't say that they duck that work. And if im not mistaken they played someone down South this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 02, 2015 03:53PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Projections for last four in/first four out
> > please.
>
> In a post above, the current standings are posted
> after last weekend's action. I'll post teams that
> are in 13 - 20th places:
>
> Annandale (228) 25.33
> Chantilly (227) 25.22
> W.T. Woodson (218) 24.22
> Washington-Lee (216) 24.00
> ==============
> Yorktown (214) 23.78
> Patriot (211) 23.44
> Langley (200) 22.22
> T.C. Williams (199) 22.11
>
> I don't think that Annandale and Chantilly can be
> knocked out of the playoffs, though if they lose,
> they may fall below 13th and 14th place. The
> numbers would have to be run. I don't think that
> Langley or TC can move up to playoff position,
> even with a win.
>
> Winner of WL at Yorktown is in.
>
> Patriot (4-5) plays Battlefield (7-2) on Friday.
> If Patriot were to pull that out, they would get
> 26 points for the win, plus 14 points (2X7) for
> each of Battlefield's wins. That, by itself gets
> them to 251. They will get 2 points because
> someone will win between Osbourn and Osbourn Park
> (both defeated by Patriot). That gets them to
> 253. They would get additional points under the
> VHSL rules if other teams on their schedule get
> wins (likely). If Patriot were to lose that game,
> they will get 14 points, plus one point for the
> additional Battlefield win, and two points for the
> winner of Osbourn/OP. That gets Patriot to 228,
> plus points depending on what the other teams on
> their schedule do.
>
> Woodson currently has 218. They would get 30
> points by beating TCW on Saturday. That gets them
> to 248. They will get one point based on the
> winner of LB/SoCO, two points if Mt. Vernon beats
> West PO and 1 point if West Po wins, two points if
> West Springfield beats Annandale and one point if
> Annandale wins, one point of Robo beats
> Centreville, one point if Chantilly beats
> Westfield, and two points if Fairfax beats South
> Lakes. If all of those games go against Woodson,
> they will get to 251. If all of those go
> Woodson's way, they will get to 257. If Woodson
> loses, they get 17 points (14 for the loss, plus
> three points for 3 TCW wins). That gets them to
> 235. They can get as few as 3 additional points.
> or as many as 9, with a final point total that
> would range from 238 to 244.
>
> Based on this, if Patriot wins, Woodson is almost
> certainly eliminated, even before they play at TCW
> (that game is Saturday). On the other hand, if
> Patriot loses, Woodson is probably in regardless
> of what they do against TCW.


According to VHSL, Patriot actually has 214 points, which makes it even tighter. Like you said, they are guaranteed 2 points from Osbourn-Osbourn Park. They are also guaranteed 1 from Forest Park-Hylton, and can get up to 4 more. So with a loss that puts them between 232 (you didn't give them the point for FP-Hylton) and 236.

But you are right, because of the points Patriot would rack up beating a 7-win team, I don't believe there is a scenario where Woodson could get in.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 02, 2015 03:57PM

tsk tsk 2 Wrote:
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> Ask Centerville how fun it was to play Oscar Smith
> and punch em in the mouth. You sound crazy right
> now.
>
> Half the teams in South are more than likely doing
> some kind of recruiting
>
> didn't SOCO just recently go up to a team in MD
> and kick them in the mouth anyways, even if it was
> scrimmage contest, so you can't say that they duck
> that work. And if im not mistaken they played
> someone down South this year.

You are mistaken. Though there SOS seems to be a little better than last year, opponents are still under 500 before LB

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: FairfaxGal ()
Date: November 02, 2015 04:08PM

Wait... McLean beat Fairfax???? Lol

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 02, 2015 04:46PM

SOCO SUCKS Wrote:
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> Saw somewhere that SC is ranked number 1 in VA..
> What a joke this team is lucky to get out of the
> first rd in the north here's why.

Current Virginia 6A Top 6 Rankings

VHSL Power Points:
1. South County
2. Lake Braddock
3. Ocean Lakes
4. Oscar Smith
5. Colonial Forge
6. Westfield

VHSL-REFERENCE:
1. South County
2. Ocean Lakes
3. Lake Braddock
4. Oscar Smith
5. Westfield
6. Colonial Forge

Gilliam Ratings:
1. Ocean Lakes
2. Lake Braddock
3. South County
4. Oscar Smith
5. Westfield
6. Robinson

calpreps.com:
1. Ocean Lakes
2. South County
3. Lake Braddock
4. Oscar Smith
5. Westfield
6. Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 02, 2015 05:19PM

According to VHSL, Patriot actually has 214 points, which makes it even tighter. Like you said, they are guaranteed 2 points from Osbourn-Osbourn Park. They are also guaranteed 1 from Forest Park-Hylton, and can get up to 4 more. So with a loss that puts them between 232 (you didn't give them the point for FP-Hylton) and 236.

But you are right, because of the points Patriot would rack up beating a 7-win team, I don't believe there is a scenario where Woodson could get in.

--------------------

Thanks for that correction. I checked on the VHSL website, and this is confirmed. I took my original standings from a post on Rivals.com which obviously had an error.

This makes me wonder if the WL Yorktown game is really going to be winner is in, loser goes home. Since Yorktown only has 3 wins, WL wouldn't rack up the some number of points that Patriot would rack up with a win. I'll have to check the math more carefully.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: November 02, 2015 06:09PM

D1 is D1 buddy where the SOCO kids going? Saw one of the bitching on Twitter about his recruiting... And look at all the talent in PWC those teams have big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC I'd love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to PG county outside of the NR the speed is just different. I'm not a hater I'm objective grew up in NR and graduated from WP NR just doesn't have the athletes like in the past.

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Ummm, Westfield plays Dematha and typically Quince Orchard in the pre-season. They get it handed to them by Dematha but any public school typically would. They always play QO well, and before them they played LC Bird in the preseason.

As far as the NR region being down in talent I believe there are more kids in the post from the NR then PWC heading to D1 schools. The Big 10 now recruits mainly in the DMV with a good number of NR kids on their rosters or on their radar.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 02, 2015 07:44PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> According to VHSL, Patriot actually has 214
> points, which makes it even tighter. Like you
> said, they are guaranteed 2 points from
> Osbourn-Osbourn Park. They are also guaranteed 1
> from Forest Park-Hylton, and can get up to 4 more.
> So with a loss that puts them between 232 (you
> didn't give them the point for FP-Hylton) and
> 236.
>
> But you are right, because of the points Patriot
> would rack up beating a 7-win team, I don't
> believe there is a scenario where Woodson could
> get in.
>
> --------------------
>
> Thanks for that correction. I checked on the VHSL
> website, and this is confirmed. I took my
> original standings from a post on Rivals.com which
> obviously had an error.
>
> This makes me wonder if the WL Yorktown game is
> really going to be winner is in, loser goes home.
> Since Yorktown only has 3 wins, WL wouldn't rack
> up the some number of points that Patriot would
> rack up with a win. I'll have to check the math
> more carefully.


I went back and looked at Woodson and Patriot closely. (And wow to Patriot's SOS.)

If Patriot wins:
26 points
14 bonus points from Battlefield
2 bonus points for Osbourn/Osbourn Park
1 bonus point for Forest Park/Hylton
+2 if Stafford wins
+1 if Woodbridge wins
+1 if Mountain View wins
+1 if Brooke Point wins

That's 257 minimum, 262 max. 231 with a loss.

If Woodson wins:
26 points
4 bonus points from TC
3 guaranteed bonus (LB/SC, WS/Ann, MV/WP either way those go)
+2 for Fairfax win
+1 for Mount Vernon win
+1 for West Springfield win
+1 for Chantilly win
+1 for Robinson win

That would put them at 251 minimum, 257 max. 235 with a loss.


Now, for Washington-Lee:
26 for a win
6 bonus points from Yorktown
4 guaranteed bonus points
+2 for TJ win
+1 for Fairfax win
+1 for Westfield win
+1 for Wakefield win

252 min, 257 max. 234 with a loss.


For Yorktown:
26 for a win
8 bonus points from W-L
3 guaranteed bonus points
+2 for Wakefield win
+1 for Wilson win
+1 for Fairfax win
+1 for Broad Run win
+1 for McLean win

252 min, 258 max. 232 with a loss.



This means, if Woodson gets no help they are a point short of the W-L/Yorktown winner.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All hail LB ()
Date: November 02, 2015 08:31PM

STATE CHAMPS that is all ;)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tsk ()
Date: November 03, 2015 08:57AM

So what "help" does Woodson need, I have a friend that coaches there

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:28AM

tsk Wrote:
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> So what "help" does Woodson need, I have a friend
> that coaches there


Well #1 is they need Battlefield to beat Patriot. If Patriot loses, Woodson will get that spot and the W-L/Yorktown winner the other. If Patriot wins, Woodson has to win plus stay ahead of the W-L/Yorktown winner. The games this is riding on are Fairfax/South Lakes, Mount Vernon/West Po, West Springfield/Annandale, Chantilly/Westfield, and Robinson/Centreville. The team listed first goes in Woodson's favor.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: please ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:40AM

The County boys have nothing to worry about. This should be an easy win against Lake Braddock. Half of their starters are hurt. They can win with their eyes closed

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MACLAENDLSUJAL> ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:41AM

any thoughts on the McLean team?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: greenmachine ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:41AM

The players in green should have a fun afternoon. With that high scoring offense I am excited to see if that Lake Braddock scoreboard goes up to 3 digits. Can't wait!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ouchieowie ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:49AM

please Wrote:
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> The County boys have nothing to worry about. This
> should be an easy win against Lake Braddock. Half
> of their starters are hurt. They can win with
> their eyes closed

This time of the year most teams have a lot of starters hurting. LB is pretty deep compared to SoCo. They can handle injuries.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: November 03, 2015 12:13PM

Round eye,

Muran rent check on Rake Braddock. Now you tell Muran stahtah hurt? Who stahtah hurt? Why he hurt? Muran roose everyting if Rake Braddock roose. He need know!


Muran

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: DumBA$$ ()
Date: November 03, 2015 12:15PM

Lake Braddock Deep????????????? They play everyone both ways! Soco plays no one both ways and have been without as many as 8 starters in one game. But they didn't whine like Westfield. Soco does suck they just suck less than everyone else.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: November 03, 2015 06:15PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> > And look at all the talent in PWC those teams
> have
> > big time recruits everywhere as far as MD n DC
> I'd
> > love to see a Westfield or center vile go up to
> PG
> > county outside of the NR the speed is just
> > different.
>
> As everyone should have learned over the last 20
> years - speed does not in and of itself = wins.
> If speed was everything Hayfield should have
> destroyed South Lakes.

Well, not really. SL was definitely Faster! SL receivers are all track stars too. Hayfield had one fast guy on the field.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Pannoni ()
Date: November 03, 2015 07:48PM

Soco is the real deal. Braddock is going to get exposed on Friday night. South County is just better

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Número uno ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:00PM

They are #1 in the state for a reason!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Confused ()
Date: November 03, 2015 09:25PM

I'm just confused as to how south county is #1 in the state. Don't get me wrong they are good, one of the top northern region contenders, but their schedule is so much easier than a large majority compared to that of Lakebraddock Westfield or Robinson. Obviously they will be ranked higher than Westfield and Robinson because of record but it doesn't make sense to see them as #1 in the state. Same thing is true for Madison at #4 in northern region - they beat a very unstable stone bridge early on in the season but other than that, why are they ranked so high?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 03, 2015 10:20PM

Confused Wrote:
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> I'm just confused as to how south county is #1 in
> the state. Don't get me wrong they are good, one
> of the top northern region contenders, but their
> schedule is so much easier than a large majority
> compared to that of Lakebraddock Westfield or
> Robinson. Obviously they will be ranked higher
> than Westfield and Robinson because of record but
> it doesn't make sense to see them as #1 in the
> state. Same thing is true for Madison at #4 in
> northern region - they beat a very unstable stone
> bridge early on in the season but other than that,
> why are they ranked so high?

Math used by VHSL Reference. The same math that says LB actually had an easier schedule - by far.

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/sos_by_team_real_gy.cfm?GY=2015

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RPI GUY ()
Date: November 04, 2015 05:32AM

RPI is a better than SOS.

The exact formula for determining the RPI of a team at any given time is as follows: RPI = (WP * .25) + (OWP * .50) + (OOWP * .25)


http://www.vhsl-reference.com/ratingsmainpage_RPI_gy.cfm?division=6

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Why? ()
Date: November 04, 2015 09:50AM

Confused Wrote:
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> I'm just confused as to how south county is #1 in
> the state. Don't get me wrong they are good, one
> of the top northern region contenders, but their
> schedule is so much easier than a large majority
> compared to that of Lakebraddock Westfield or
> Robinson. Obviously they will be ranked higher
> than Westfield and Robinson because of record but
> it doesn't make sense to see them as #1 in the
> state. Same thing is true for Madison at #4 in
> northern region - they beat a very unstable stone
> bridge early on in the season but other than that,
> why are they ranked so high?

They are 9-0, beat Westfield, the their schedule is way tougher than LB's!!

Ocean Lakes has a pretty cake schedule as well, so not sure why you're questioning it. Just deal with it, and let things play out.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lb v soco ()
Date: November 04, 2015 04:20PM

Really? You are gonna say that south county's schedule is harder because they went up against Westfield? Do you realize that Westfield lost against south county because some Westfield players were suspended (I do not know how many but it was a significant number of players) because of drug possession or something similar to that. This was a big advantage to south county.

Point is south county should be ranked high but not higher than ocean lakes. On the other hand, they're rank over lake Braddock will be determined this Friday night.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hey Dumbass ()
Date: November 04, 2015 07:34PM

hey Dumb Ass ocean lakes is really really good with the best recruits a coach can buy but their schedule is full of about 5 or 6 Lee/ and Mount Vernon type schools from both 4A and 5A. They thought they would walk over centerville but that was the first real competition they had all last season. There are at least 4 or 5 Novateams that can play with them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: False points ()
Date: November 05, 2015 08:22AM

Lb v soco Wrote:
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> Really? You are gonna say that south county's
> schedule is harder because they went up against
> Westfield? Do you realize that Westfield lost
> against south county because some Westfield
> players were suspended (I do not know how many but
> it was a significant number of players) because of
> drug possession or something similar to that. This
> was a big advantage to south county.
>
> Point is south county should be ranked high but
> not higher than ocean lakes. On the other hand,
> they're rank over lake Braddock will be determined
> this Friday night.


Your making points with that you're unsure of. Get some legit facts then you can come to the table. A win is a win, deal with it!!

Look at Ocean Lakes schedule:

Salem 7-2 (might be good, who knows.)
First Colonial 4-5 (Yikes!)
Princess Anna 3-6 (Another quality opponent!)
Green Run 3-6 (Yet another one!!)
Kempsville 0-9 (WOW!)
Kellam 4-5 (And another one!)
Tallwood 4-7 (Sucks!)
Bayside 6-3 (might be good, who knows.)
Cox 6-3 (Again, who knows)
Landstown 4-5 (Sucks!)

So as you see, there are some quality opponents from a birds eye view. To say Ocean Lakes has a tough schedule without even looking at their opponents is just simple.

You can look at Soco's schedule online and see there are some pretty significant differences in quality of opponents there. LB has as soft of a schedule as they've had in a while (Cville sucks, and Robinson being there only quality opponent a 21-14 game.) Soco has earned the right to be #1, find some facts and then we can talk.

As far as Westfield goes, it's their fault for getting suspended. Soco won, that is all that matters! And they haven't actually been lighting up the scoreboard this year either, with "all their suspended studs back!" What a joke!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach ()
Date: November 05, 2015 09:06AM

McLean is just awful! They can't even field a JV team. New coach is a joke!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 05, 2015 09:58AM

False points Wrote:
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> Lb v soco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Really? You are gonna say that south county's
> > schedule is harder because they went up against
> > Westfield? Do you realize that Westfield lost
> > against south county because some Westfield
> > players were suspended (I do not know how many
> but
> > it was a significant number of players) because
> of
> > drug possession or something similar to that.
> This
> > was a big advantage to south county.
> >
> > Point is south county should be ranked high but
> > not higher than ocean lakes. On the other hand,
> > they're rank over lake Braddock will be
> determined
> > this Friday night.
>
>
> Your making points with that you're unsure of.
> Get some legit facts then you can come to the
> table. A win is a win, deal with it!!
>
> Look at Ocean Lakes schedule:
>
> Salem 7-2 (might be good, who knows.)
> First Colonial 4-5 (Yikes!)
> Princess Anna 3-6 (Another quality opponent!)
> Green Run 3-6 (Yet another one!!)
> Kempsville 0-9 (WOW!)
> Kellam 4-5 (And another one!)
> Tallwood 4-7 (Sucks!)
> Bayside 6-3 (might be good, who knows.)
> Cox 6-3 (Again, who knows)
> Landstown 4-5 (Sucks!)
>
> So as you see, there are some quality opponents
> from a birds eye view. To say Ocean Lakes has a
> tough schedule without even looking at their
> opponents is just simple.
>
> You can look at Soco's schedule online and see
> there are some pretty significant differences in
> quality of opponents there. LB has as soft of a
> schedule as they've had in a while (Cville sucks,
> and Robinson being there only quality opponent a
> 21-14 game.) Soco has earned the right to be #1,
> find some facts and then we can talk.
>
> As far as Westfield goes, it's their fault for
> getting suspended. Soco won, that is all that
> matters! And they haven't actually been lighting
> up the scoreboard this year either, with "all
> their suspended studs back!" What a joke!!

70% of Soco and LB schedules are the same.

What this tells me is that the top teams in the state are relatively untested. We could see

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 05, 2015 10:50AM

http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com/members/media/gameday-roundtable-so-county-or-lake-braddock/

3 out of 4 "experts" are picking South County. I gotta go with LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 05, 2015 11:27AM

GAU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> False points Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lb v soco Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Really? You are gonna say that south county's
> > > schedule is harder because they went up
> against
> > > Westfield? Do you realize that Westfield lost
> > > against south county because some Westfield
> > > players were suspended (I do not know how
> many
> > but
> > > it was a significant number of players)
> because
> > of
> > > drug possession or something similar to that.
> > This
> > > was a big advantage to south county.
> > >
> > > Point is south county should be ranked high
> but
> > > not higher than ocean lakes. On the other
> hand,
> > > they're rank over lake Braddock will be
> > determined
> > > this Friday night.
> >
> >
> > Your making points with that you're unsure of.
> > Get some legit facts then you can come to the
> > table. A win is a win, deal with it!!
> >
> > Look at Ocean Lakes schedule:
> >
> > Salem 7-2 (might be good, who knows.)
> > First Colonial 4-5 (Yikes!)
> > Princess Anna 3-6 (Another quality opponent!)
> > Green Run 3-6 (Yet another one!!)
> > Kempsville 0-9 (WOW!)
> > Kellam 4-5 (And another one!)
> > Tallwood 4-7 (Sucks!)
> > Bayside 6-3 (might be good, who knows.)
> > Cox 6-3 (Again, who knows)
> > Landstown 4-5 (Sucks!)
> >
> > So as you see, there are some quality opponents
> > from a birds eye view. To say Ocean Lakes has
> a
> > tough schedule without even looking at their
> > opponents is just simple.
> >
> > You can look at Soco's schedule online and see
> > there are some pretty significant differences
> in
> > quality of opponents there. LB has as soft of
> a
> > schedule as they've had in a while (Cville
> sucks,
> > and Robinson being there only quality opponent
> a
> > 21-14 game.) Soco has earned the right to be
> #1,
> > find some facts and then we can talk.
> >
> > As far as Westfield goes, it's their fault for
> > getting suspended. Soco won, that is all that
> > matters! And they haven't actually been
> lighting
> > up the scoreboard this year either, with "all
> > their suspended studs back!" What a joke!!
>
> 70% of Soco and LB schedules are the same.
>
> What this tells me is that the top teams in the
> state are relatively untested. We could see


Meant to say we could see a lower-seeded darkhorse make a run through the region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who? ()
Date: November 05, 2015 12:27PM

GAU Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > False points Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Lb v soco Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Really? You are gonna say that south
> county's
> > > > schedule is harder because they went up
> > against
> > > > Westfield? Do you realize that Westfield
> lost
> > > > against south county because some Westfield
> > > > players were suspended (I do not know how
> > many
> > > but
> > > > it was a significant number of players)
> > because
> > > of
> > > > drug possession or something similar to
> that.
> > > This
> > > > was a big advantage to south county.
> > > >
> > > > Point is south county should be ranked high
> > but
> > > > not higher than ocean lakes. On the other
> > hand,
> > > > they're rank over lake Braddock will be
> > > determined
> > > > this Friday night.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your making points with that you're unsure of.
>
> > > Get some legit facts then you can come to the
> > > table. A win is a win, deal with it!!
> > >
> > > Look at Ocean Lakes schedule:
> > >
> > > Salem 7-2 (might be good, who knows.)
> > > First Colonial 4-5 (Yikes!)
> > > Princess Anna 3-6 (Another quality opponent!)
> > > Green Run 3-6 (Yet another one!!)
> > > Kempsville 0-9 (WOW!)
> > > Kellam 4-5 (And another one!)
> > > Tallwood 4-7 (Sucks!)
> > > Bayside 6-3 (might be good, who knows.)
> > > Cox 6-3 (Again, who knows)
> > > Landstown 4-5 (Sucks!)
> > >
> > > So as you see, there are some quality
> opponents
> > > from a birds eye view. To say Ocean Lakes
> has
> > a
> > > tough schedule without even looking at their
> > > opponents is just simple.
> > >
> > > You can look at Soco's schedule online and
> see
> > > there are some pretty significant differences
> > in
> > > quality of opponents there. LB has as soft
> of
> > a
> > > schedule as they've had in a while (Cville
> > sucks,
> > > and Robinson being there only quality
> opponent
> > a
> > > 21-14 game.) Soco has earned the right to be
> > #1,
> > > find some facts and then we can talk.
> > >
> > > As far as Westfield goes, it's their fault
> for
> > > getting suspended. Soco won, that is all
> that
> > > matters! And they haven't actually been
> > lighting
> > > up the scoreboard this year either, with "all
> > > their suspended studs back!" What a joke!!
> >
> > 70% of Soco and LB schedules are the same.
> >
> > What this tells me is that the top teams in the
> > state are relatively untested. We could see
>
>
> Meant to say we could see a lower-seeded darkhorse
> make a run through the region.

Which team or teams could make an unexpected run?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stallion Pride ()
Date: November 05, 2015 12:56PM

As much as I hate to say it the Concorde teams will all be tough outs in the playoffs. Would it surprise anyone to see double digit seeds Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton beat someone in the 4-8 seed range? I also think Robinson and Westfield will be tough to beat in the playoffs due to their defenses and their difficult regular season schedules. Lake Braddock and South County are the favorites, but the dark horses are in the Concorde and they worry me.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hype ()
Date: November 05, 2015 12:56PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com/members/media/gamed
> ay-roundtable-so-county-or-lake-braddock/
>
> 3 out of 4 "experts" are picking South County. I
> gotta go with LB.


Great piece can't wait for Friday should be a treat for anyone in attendance. Maybe the best hs football game in years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Low seed trouble ()
Date: November 05, 2015 01:47PM

Watched Gameday Centreville vs Chantilly replay last night. Centreville's offensive line just destroyed Chantilly's dline. Runningbacks just got chuncks of yardage. They would be a nightmare draw for a Madison for example.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 05, 2015 01:54PM

The best hs football game in years. Where the hell have you been? There have been several great games the last few years in the northern region and last years' state final. On another note....the reason behind ocean lakes softer schedule is that all the good players from the teams they play have transferred to ocean lakes. I don't think any team can compete with them this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football2 ()
Date: November 05, 2015 02:10PM

nufan Wrote:
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> The best hs football game in years. Where the hell
> have you been? There have been several great
> games the last few years in the northern region
> and last years' state final. On another
> note....the reason behind ocean lakes softer
> schedule is that all the good players from the
> teams they play have transferred to ocean lakes. I
> don't think any team can compete with them this
> year.


Then no one can use schedule as a factor when talking about OL. It's simple, they have great athletes, but have they been hit in the mouth? Cville proved a smaller tougher team could complete with them. I just find it hard to believe OL could compete week to week in the NR. Just my opinion.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson ()
Date: November 05, 2015 02:14PM

Stallion Pride Wrote:
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> As much as I hate to say it the Concorde teams
> will all be tough outs in the playoffs. Would it
> surprise anyone to see double digit seeds
> Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton beat someone in
> the 4-8 seed range? I also think Robinson and
> Westfield will be tough to beat in the playoffs
> due to their defenses and their difficult regular
> season schedules. Lake Braddock and South County
> are the favorites, but the dark horses are in the
> Concorde and they worry me.

Definitely could see Robinson making a run, but they would struggle with a team as strong with more athletes. I thing Robinson would struggle with Soco because of their balance in strength and athleticism.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 05, 2015 03:53PM

Football2 Wrote:
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> nufan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The best hs football game in years. Where the
> hell
> > have you been? There have been several great
> > games the last few years in the northern region
> > and last years' state final. On another
> > note....the reason behind ocean lakes softer
> > schedule is that all the good players from the
> > teams they play have transferred to ocean lakes.
> I
> > don't think any team can compete with them this
> > year.
>
>
> Then no one can use schedule as a factor when
> talking about OL. It's simple, they have great
> athletes, but have they been hit in the mouth?
> Cville proved a smaller tougher team could
> complete with them. I just find it hard to
> believe OL could compete week to week in the NR.
> Just my opinion.

There certainly is a North-South disparity we could talk about. Think it extends to basketball as well. Sure, a team like Ocean Lakes is playing a wide variety of schools, 4A through 6A, whereas all the schools here are fairly equal. But nevertheless, they still get beat. This tells me the average 5A school down there is better than the average 6A school here.

Some schools have tried to help this by scheduling tough OOC games, like Centreville playing Gonzaga last year, or basketball teams playing out of state (Woodson played O'Connell and a charter school from Philly that was state runner-up).

And it isn't just Ocean Lakes. Colonial Forge has beat some of the best 5A teams in the state, and good 6A teams as well.

It isn't fair to say a team like Ocean Lakes isn't as good because they haven't played the same schools or schools the same size. The only way you can compare is when they play each other, and Ocean Lakes beat Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: EXnPu ()
Date: November 05, 2015 04:29PM

GAU Wrote:
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> There certainly is a North-South disparity we
> could talk about. Think it extends to basketball
> as well. Sure, a team like Ocean Lakes is playing
> a wide variety of schools, 4A through 6A, whereas
> all the schools here are fairly equal. But
> nevertheless, they still get beat. This tells me
> the average 5A school down there is better than
> the average 6A school here.

What do you base your evidence on that "all the schools here are fairly equal?"

That is total nonsense. And who "still get beat?" Explain how this tells you that the "average 5A school down there is better than the average 6A school here?"

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson ()
Date: November 05, 2015 04:37PM

might just see how a physical team with better athletes fairs this week against Robinson in the Centreville match-up.

Both teams have strong o lines with Robinson getting the edge on defense. Overall more team speed with cville.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach Mackey ()
Date: November 05, 2015 05:00PM

Robinson Wrote:
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> Stallion Pride Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As much as I hate to say it the Concorde teams
> > will all be tough outs in the playoffs. Would
> it
> > surprise anyone to see double digit seeds
> > Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton beat someone
> in
> > the 4-8 seed range? I also think Robinson and
> > Westfield will be tough to beat in the playoffs
> > due to their defenses and their difficult
> regular
> > season schedules. Lake Braddock and South
> County
> > are the favorites, but the dark horses are in
> the
> > Concorde and they worry me.
>
> Definitely could see Robinson making a run, but
> they would struggle with a team as strong with
> more athletes. I thing Robinson would struggle
> with Soco because of their balance in strength and
> athleticism.

Yes but Ocean Lakes heavily recruits. Or did the last few seasons. And that's not all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coach Mackey ()
Date: November 05, 2015 05:06PM

> It isn't fair to say a team like Ocean Lakes isn't
> as good because they haven't played the same
> schools or schools the same size. The only way you
> can compare is when they play each other, and
> Ocean Lakes beat Centreville.

Yes but Ocean Lakes heavily recruits. Or did the last few seasons. And that's not all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 05, 2015 06:03PM

Not sure where all these comparisons are going but some schedules are more difficult than others but that doesn't make that team better than another til they play each other. If you look at the scores, south county and ocean lakes are putting up good numbers. Lake Braddock too. Oscar smith is still undefeated. ocean lakes just gets the finger pointed at them because of current crap going on there. They are expected to win states. Yes the beat centreville last year in overtime and was pushed to the end. Did centreville play a harder schedule? Does it matter? All that matters is who plays in the final game. For 5A, LC bird rules. Is their schedule any different? For 4A there is no schools close to me so I don't follow. JMO.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 05, 2015 06:20PM

EXnPu Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There certainly is a North-South disparity we
> > could talk about. Think it extends to
> basketball
> > as well. Sure, a team like Ocean Lakes is
> playing
> > a wide variety of schools, 4A through 6A,
> whereas
> > all the schools here are fairly equal. But
> > nevertheless, they still get beat. This tells
> me
> > the average 5A school down there is better than
> > the average 6A school here.
>
> What do you base your evidence on that "all the
> schools here are fairly equal?"
>
> That is total nonsense. And who "still get beat?"
> Explain how this tells you that the "average 5A
> school down there is better than the average 6A
> school here?"

Fairly equal in size.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB LB ()
Date: November 05, 2015 10:36PM

LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen for tomorrow night

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: boys of fall ()
Date: November 05, 2015 10:37PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 06:12AM

LB LB Wrote:
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> LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen for
> tomorrow night


Lol not really. Maybe an omen for two or three years from now.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Soco JV ()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:14AM

LB LB Wrote:
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> LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen for
> tomorrow night

Soco JV STOMPED LB, now that's the omen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 06, 2015 12:29PM

Soco JV Wrote:
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> LB LB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen
> for
> > tomorrow night
>
> Soco JV STOMPED LB, now that's the omen.


28-15 = stomped?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who cares!? ()
Date: November 06, 2015 12:36PM

Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> Soco JV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LB LB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen
> > for
> > > tomorrow night
> >
> > Soco JV STOMPED LB, now that's the omen.
>
>
> 28-15 = stomped?
>
> I don't think that word means what you think it
> means.

LB was never in that game their freshman team did dominate but who the hell cares about fresh JV the real game is tonight

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Suffering fan and parent ()
Date: November 06, 2015 01:14PM

November 6, 2015


MEMORANDUM

TO: Nancy Melnick, Director of Student Activities
FROM: Everyone

RE: Information Technology needs

Before you leave school today, please review the capacity of your email in-box and make certain that your inbox has plenty of capacity to receive new messages. Please also get with your IT department to make certain your email servers are in good working order for an anticipated spike in electronic messaging activity likely to happen over the weekend.

Thank you

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oh yes ()
Date: November 06, 2015 01:26PM

Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> Soco JV Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LB LB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > LB freshman stomped SOCO may be an early omen
> > for
> > > tomorrow night
> >
> > Soco JV STOMPED LB, now that's the omen.
>
>
> 28-15 = stomped?
>
> I don't think that word means what you think it
> means.

When you know the level of the skill on the field, 28-15 is getting stomped!!

Definition-deliberately trample or tread heavily on. We'll go with the trampled on part!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: undefeated ()
Date: November 06, 2015 02:08PM

Whose JV team is undefeated this year?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 02:35PM

undefeated Wrote:
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> Whose JV team is undefeated this year?


West Potomac, Westfield, Battlefield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco guy ()
Date: November 06, 2015 04:40PM

there are some really dumb posts on here. I cannot wait for tonight's game. I think it is a toss up game between Soco/LB and will come down to how many onside kicks pannoni attempts

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hahahahaha ()
Date: November 06, 2015 04:58PM

soco guy Wrote:
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> there are some really dumb posts on here. I cannot
> wait for tonight's game. I think it is a toss up
> game between Soco/LB and will come down to how
> many onside kicks pannoni attempts

LOL... I just don't get it. You give up great field position on 6 KO and maybe get 1 possession advantage/TO per game. Is that really worth it? I don't think so.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 07:30PM

LB was up 13-0. Now 13-7. 1:39 Q1

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 07:32PM

GAU Wrote:
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> LB was up 13-0. Now 13-7. 1:39 Q1


LB runs back kick. 20-7.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 07:52PM

GAU Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LB was up 13-0. Now 13-7. 1:39 Q1
>
>
> LB runs back kick. 20-7.


LB is pulling away. 27-7

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO was Posing ()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:05PM

SOCO? Better say Uh oh!

LB is playing ball, what is SOCO doing? Same thing they always do - LOSE!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:12PM

GAU Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GAU Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > LB was up 13-0. Now 13-7. 1:39 Q1
> >
> >
> > LB runs back kick. 20-7.
>
>
> LB is pulling away. 27-7


Halftime
LB 27
Soco 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Magnus Magnusson ()
Date: November 06, 2015 09:29PM

Robinson 28 Centreville 7

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LB/SoCo ()
Date: November 06, 2015 09:33PM

LB-27 SoCo-27, 10:43 4th Qtr.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco ()
Date: November 06, 2015 09:46PM

Soco wins 33-30 in OT

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO BRUV ()
Date: November 06, 2015 09:49PM

SOCO WON YOU BITCH ASS NIGGAS FUCK OUTTA HERE SAYING THEYRE PRETENDERS!!! THEYRE THE REAL DEAL AND THE BEST TEAM IN THE NORTH

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Damage ()
Date: November 06, 2015 09:53PM

Madison 53 Hayfield 20 bitches. Madison could beat the New England Patriots 8 out of 10 times.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nty888 ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:09PM

Who you calling nigger, you fucking nigger ass monkey!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stallion ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:11PM

What a game! Two evenly matched teams worked and played their butts off. Congrats to both DO CO and LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dice Clay ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:29PM

Madison loses first Round....hickory Dickory Dock, little boy blew because he needed the money.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: L.... b ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:30PM

LLLLLLL

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO Bruva ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:32PM

Your ignorant blathering simply typifies the mindset and mentality of Soco, win something before you go on your rant you POS!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Titans ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:33PM

The ONE team that LB does not want to see is Westfield. They got abused last year in the playoff game and they cant shake the BULLDOGS.

How can SC have 5 turn overs in the first half of a game and still win??

Crazy year and more to come....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:50PM

Among the bubble teams that were previously in, Centreville, Washington-Lee, Chantilly, and Annandale are all in (right now 12-15).

If Woodson wins tomorrow, they will take #15 and Annandale will fall to #16.
If Woodson loses, they will drop out and Patriot will take #16 despite losing to Battlefield.

A Woodson win would also flip W-L and Chantilly because of Chantilly's victory over Woodson.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:54PM

GAU Wrote:
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> Among the bubble teams that were previously in,
> Centreville, Washington-Lee, Chantilly, and
> Annandale are all in (right now 12-15).
>
> If Woodson wins tomorrow, they will take #15 and
> Annandale will fall to #16.
> If Woodson loses, they will drop out and Patriot
> will take #16 despite losing to Battlefield.
>
> A Woodson win would also flip W-L and Chantilly
> because of Chantilly's victory over Woodson.

I think the top four teams remained in the same order. That means if TC wins tomorrow, eliminating Woodson, Madison draws W-L in the first round. That's better for them than drawing Chantilly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:01PM

I think Cville and Robinson play again next weekend.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:03PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Among the bubble teams that were previously in,
> > Centreville, Washington-Lee, Chantilly, and
> > Annandale are all in (right now 12-15).
> >
> > If Woodson wins tomorrow, they will take #15
> and
> > Annandale will fall to #16.
> > If Woodson loses, they will drop out and
> Patriot
> > will take #16 despite losing to Battlefield.
> >
> > A Woodson win would also flip W-L and Chantilly
> > because of Chantilly's victory over Woodson.
>
> I think the top four teams remained in the same
> order. That means if TC wins tomorrow,
> eliminating Woodson, Madison draws W-L in the
> first round. That's better for them than drawing
> Chantilly.

I didn't look at the bonus points the top teams would have picked up, but just based on their games tonight, Westfield and LB were a point difference. So they could switch.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Unofficial ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:29PM

Yes, it's not official but it looks like Robinson will
Be 5 and Centreville 12. That's another match up next week, except it will be at Robinson.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: math guy ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:39PM

w/l did not jump tilly...tilly started with 227 and got 27....could be 29 if woodson beats tc....that is 254

W/L started with 216 and earned only 37..that is 253....

Tilly actually jumps annandale and plays madison

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Damage ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:43PM

The only good thing in Chantilly is my favorite Detox Madison is gonna smoke those inbred pillow biters.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Damage ()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:45PM

........comma

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco guy ()
Date: November 07, 2015 12:17AM

do y'all think that soco just turned the corner with this win?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Almost ()
Date: November 07, 2015 01:03AM

soco guy Wrote:
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> do y'all think that soco just turned the corner
> with this win?


Not quite still waaay too many turnovers. If they fix that watch out!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: neutral fan ()
Date: November 07, 2015 06:46AM

Can you guys stop all the hate and racism on here? Calling people bitch ass niggers makes no grammatical sense, and is really uncalled for. Congratulations to the niggers from South County for defeating Lake Braddock. Lake Braddock is overrated and will not make it out of the 2nd round. South County is dangerous. If those niggers can just hang on to the ball, look out!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: former player ()
Date: November 07, 2015 06:49AM

I wouldn't say the turnovers as much as the very bad penalties they take. They go on scoring drives then just shoot themselves in the foot with bad penalties.

Example: during game last night those soso refs call a LB player down after a jarring hit, ball comes out soco does scoop and score but gets a block in back penalty unnecessarily at the 5 yd. line. LB ends up keeping possession and getting and unnecessary roughness penalty to go along with it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KingLaPuLaPu ()
Date: November 07, 2015 08:54AM

Hey so what about them Rams???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 5A Playoff Matchups ()
Date: November 07, 2015 09:29AM

9. Potomac Falls @ 8. Wakefield
10. Atlee @ 7. Mountain View
11. Albemarle @ 6. North Stafford
12. Orange @ 5. Stone Bridge
13. Briar Woods @ 4. Broad Run
14. Marshall @ 3. Brooke Point
15. Patrick Henry (Roa) @ 2. Tuscarora
16. Halifax County @ 1. Massaponax

Tough draw for Broad Run.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6A ()
Date: November 07, 2015 12:32PM

What are the 6A playoff match ups

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rickey lewis ()
Date: November 07, 2015 12:32PM

THAT COACH FROM LAKE BRADDOCK RICKEY LEWIS IS HURT LOL HATING ON SOCO N THEIR WIN BUTT HURT ON TWITTER ENSINUATING THAT SPALLDING ISNT GOOD AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE REFS WHEN THEY WERE CLEARLY ON BRADDOCKS SIDE ALL NIGHT SOME ONE TELL HIM TO TAKE HIS L!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: November 07, 2015 01:04PM

Playoffs aren't settled yet. We still need to get the outcome of WTW @ TCW today. If Woodson wins, they are in @ #15. If they lose, they are out. Annandale would be #15, and Patriot would be #16. WTW/TCW results also affect seeds for other teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Playoffs ()
Date: November 07, 2015 02:16PM

Can anyone compete with Lake Braddock and South County or will we see a rematch in the region final?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WTW ()
Date: November 07, 2015 02:17PM

What time is the WTW TC game? Can someone in the know put the pairings up as soon as it is complete???

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: dumb nigger ()
Date: November 07, 2015 02:17PM

Rickey Lewis,
I think you mean "insinuating", you stupid nigger!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: twitter? ()
Date: November 07, 2015 02:20PM

Twitter? Twitter is for homos. If you have something to say, say it here on FFXU.
That's where I get my news, not sissy shit like twitter.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hdkl ()
Date: November 07, 2015 04:06PM

U under your hood ass racist klan men drop the n bomb on here like its nothing. Chill the fuck out your all cowards and won't say that bullshit to any black person to there face. It's real pussy to come on here anonymous and drop it like its nothing.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6a match ups ()
Date: November 07, 2015 04:56PM

Woodson beats TC, 38-14

Matchups:
9. West Potomac @ 8. West Springfield
10. Hayfield @ 7. Battlefield
11. Oakton @ 6. South Lakes
12. Centreville @ 5. Robinson
13. Chantilly @ 4. Madison
14. Washington-Lee @ 3. Westfield
15. W.T. Woodson @ 2. Lake Braddock
16. Annandale @ 1. South County

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: unoffical6Abracket ()
Date: November 07, 2015 05:16PM

UNOFFICIAL
Attachments:
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: comora ()
Date: November 07, 2015 05:17PM

Shut up, you fag. You're either a sissy whiteboy or a nigger.
Niggers say "nigger" all day long and if you don't like it, get the fuck out.
Nigger is just another way to describe a black person. Go fuck yourself.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Lgy ()
Date: November 07, 2015 05:22PM

Hdkl Wrote:
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> U under your hood ass racist klan men drop the n
> bomb on here like its nothing. Chill the fuck out
> your all cowards and won't say that bullshit to
> any black person to there face. It's real pussy to
> come on here anonymous and drop it like its
> nothing.


You*
it's*
you're*
their*
anonymously*
it's*



Damn, no wonder they need affirmative action.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 07, 2015 05:22PM

As predicted, a great final week of regular season football. I botched the big one, but real strong week of scoring lines too. Cannot wait for an exciting playoff where it is up for grabs in both 6A and 5A.

South County @ Lake Braddock (-8.0)
*South County won 33-30. Kudos to the Stallions defense who figured out Braddock after trailing 27-7; I would love to see a rematch, but I think Westfield will have something to say about that in the playoffs.

Annandale @ West Springfield (-10.0)
*West Springfield won 43-34.

Chantilly @ Westfield (-15.0)
*Westfield won 28-14. Typical Westfield-Chantilly game, where Westfield dominated, and Chantilly got a couple late TDs in garbage time.

Edison @ Potomac Falls (-35.0)
*Potomac Falls won 38-7.

Fairfax @ South Lakes (-21.0)
*South Lakes won 46-7.

Hayfield @ Madison (-7.0)
*Madison won 53-20. I finally got to see some tape on them and they have some huge players. I’ve probably underestimated them a lot this season. I do think they got a tough matchup with Chantilly in round 1 though.

Jefferson @ Marshall (-35.0)
*Marshall won 52-7.

Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
*Langley won 27-7.

Lee @ Wakefield (-28.0)
*Wakefield won 50-18.

Mount Vernon @ West Potomac (-35.5)
*West Potomac won 40-6.

Oakton (-18.0) @ Herndon
*Oakton won 35-0.

Robinson (-7.0) @ Centreville
*Robinson won 28-7; Rams had a very strong season and are poised for a run of their own.

Stone Bridge (-13.0) @ Briar Woods
*Stone Bridge won 28-17.

Stuart @ Falls Church (-3.0)
*Falls Church won 35-14.

Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Broad Run
*This rivaled Braddock-SC for most exciting game of the night; Tuscarora finishes 10-0 with a 43-42 win.

Washington-Lee (-1.0) @ Yorktown
*Washington-Lee won 54-7; surprise score of the night, boy did the Generals deliver a beat down for a playoff spot.

Woodson @ TC Williams (-2.0)
*Woodson won today, dumb pick on my part to favor the Titans.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 07, 2015 05:39PM

Funny how the brackets worked out. In 1 quartile you have 4 Patriot District teams, in another you have 3 Concorde’s; honestly beyond the top 3 seeds, everyone is really vulnerable this week. Lots of great games, the 5A margins are tough knowing little about the competition.

6A
16 Annandale @ 1 South County (-25.0)
*Annandale had a very solid season, but no way they come out of Lorton with a W.

9 West Potomac @ 8 West Springfield (-3.0)
*I know West Springfield smoked West Po last time, but I can see this going either way. I look for the home team to win a close one. It is very interesting that this quartile of the bracket has all Patriot District teams.

12 Centreville @ 5 Robinson (-7.5)
*I know Robinson won comfortably last night, but I am a big Coach Haddock fan, he will make some adjustments and this will be a great game too.

13 Chantilly @ 4 Madison (-10.0)
*Chantilly is limping in with 3 straight losses while Madison comes in on a 9 game winning streak. Chantilly’s offensive line has struggled this year and I’m not crazy about the matchup. That being said for a 9-1 team to draw Chantilly, the Chargers have the fire power to pull this one off… This has great game potential too.

14 Washington-Lee @ 3 Westfield (-14.0)
*Washington-Lee is playing some strong football the past few weeks, they just don’t have the talent to beat Westfield even when they play their best.

11 Oakton (-7.0) @ 6 South Lakes
*I’m not a Liberty Conference believer, I think the battle tested Cougars strength of schedule will be the difference in this one.

10 Hayfield @ 7 Battlefield (-14.0)

15 WT Woodson @ 2 Lake Braddock (-35.5)

Local 5A
9 Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ 8 Wakefield

12 Orange @ 5 Stone Bridge (-28.0)

13 Briar Woods @ 4 Broad Run (-7.0)
*Very tough draw for the Spartans, but the Spartans are the better team.

14 Marshall @ 3 Brooke Point (-30.0)

15 Patrick Henry @ 2 Tuscarora (-17.0)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Steve fan ()
Date: November 07, 2015 07:01PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> As predicted, a great final week of regular season
> football. I botched the big one, but real strong
> week of scoring lines too. Cannot wait for an
> exciting playoff where it is up for grabs in both
> 6A and 5A.
>
> South County @ Lake Braddock (-8.0)
> *South County won 33-30. Kudos to the Stallions
> defense who figured out Braddock after trailing
> 27-7; I would love to see a rematch, but I think
> Westfield will have something to say about that in
> the playoffs.
>
> Annandale @ West Springfield (-10.0)
> *West Springfield won 43-34.
>
> Chantilly @ Westfield (-15.0)
> *Westfield won 28-14. Typical Westfield-Chantilly
> game, where Westfield dominated, and Chantilly got
> a couple late TDs in garbage time.
>
> Edison @ Potomac Falls (-35.0)
> *Potomac Falls won 38-7.
>
> Fairfax @ South Lakes (-21.0)
> *South Lakes won 46-7.
>
> Hayfield @ Madison (-7.0)
> *Madison won 53-20. I finally got to see some
> tape on them and they have some huge players.
> I’ve probably underestimated them a lot this
> season. I do think they got a tough matchup with
> Chantilly in round 1 though.
>
> Jefferson @ Marshall (-35.0)
> *Marshall won 52-7.
>
> Langley (-10.0) @ McLean
> *Langley won 27-7.
>
> Lee @ Wakefield (-28.0)
> *Wakefield won 50-18.
>
> Mount Vernon @ West Potomac (-35.5)
> *West Potomac won 40-6.
>
> Oakton (-18.0) @ Herndon
> *Oakton won 35-0.
>
> Robinson (-7.0) @ Centreville
> *Robinson won 28-7; Rams had a very strong season
> and are poised for a run of their own.
>
> Stone Bridge (-13.0) @ Briar Woods
> *Stone Bridge won 28-17.
>
> Stuart @ Falls Church (-3.0)
> *Falls Church won 35-14.
>
> Tuscarora (-10.0) @ Broad Run
> *This rivaled Braddock-SC for most exciting game
> of the night; Tuscarora finishes 10-0 with a 43-42
> win.
>
> Washington-Lee (-1.0) @ Yorktown
> *Washington-Lee won 54-7; surprise score of the
> night, boy did the Generals deliver a beat down
> for a playoff spot.
>
> Woodson @ TC Williams (-2.0)
> *Woodson won today, dumb pick on my part to favor
> the Titans.


Steve, once again, great job on the lines. Yes, you missed SC/LB, but not only did you call most of the remaining games correctly, you got the spread about spot on. Keep up the good work (playoffs and next season, too, please).

One minor note: I am noticing some discrepancies on the W-L Yorktown score. You report it as 54-7, and I saw a report of that as well, but if you look at the W-L twitter feed for the game, they report a final score of 27-7. I think that twitter feed is more believable.

Regardless of the score of the Yorktown game, kudos to WL's coaching staff for turning their season around. They were left for dead after bad loss to South Lakes to send them to 1-4 on the season, but credit to their coaching staff for making a major adjustment to allow them to go 4-1 down the stretch, with their lone loss a 21-13 defeat at the hands of Madison (playing Madison much closer than most would have expected). I'd like to suggest that their coach be in the conversation for coach of the year.

Congratulations to all the teams that made the playoffs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 07, 2015 07:37PM

Yes 27-7 per the WaPo

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Too many games ()
Date: November 08, 2015 06:24AM

A 16 team playoff is too many for highschool football. Woodson v Lake Braddock? A 4 win team in a playoff is ludicrous... They have complete ass whippings against the top teams.. 61 to ZERO 56 to ZERO? Unless the entire first string of Lake Braddock is hurt of suspended, they are going to beat Woodson 100 out of100 times as Woodson could do nothing on offense or defense in that matchup.

Playoff field should be 8 to boil down the teams that really deserve to be there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Date: November 08, 2015 07:54AM

I agree. Scale the field down to 8. As of now you can have a dismal season like Woodson and "make the playoffs!" What a joke.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: woody ()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:04AM

in last 2 years of playoffs the bottom 9 seeds were 37 - 192 or 19% in the first round.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:06AM

Thanks for pointing out the Yorktown score, they does lose 27-7 which makes a lot more sense.

I personally like 16, yes there's 3 teams that have no chance, but it's a big region and theres a lot of potential upsets.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: support sport ()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:55AM

Don't blame the kids blame West Springfield and the VHSL power point system, all they had to do was win, and lowly ole WT Woodson would be sitting at home, but nope instead they took an L and this is what you have.

Have a feeling Woodson may score this time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: carmen 88 ()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:59AM

Steve k2,
Not a huge football fan, but I enjoy reading your selections/analysis, and then seeing how your predictions pan out.
I'm very impressed with your lines.
On another note, some of you on here should really stop crying about posts you don't like. Respond to it, or ignore it, but quit trying to stifle free speech.
Long live FFXU.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cville QB ()
Date: November 08, 2015 09:22AM

Anyone know if Cville QB will return for play-off game? Hurt in 2nd Quarter against Robinson severely limited the Cville play book the rest of the way.

2nd team QB looked very athletic pretty much limited to QB run out of shotgun or throw it long

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Baba ()
Date: November 08, 2015 09:42AM

It's safe to say that south county has one of the best defenses in the state hands down. Nobody can say otherwise

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Ba ba body ()
Date: November 08, 2015 09:46AM

It's safe to say SOCO has one of the best OFFENSES in the state which allows their better than average defense to bend often.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: support sport ()
Date: November 08, 2015 09:55AM

a team that run a true spread and good QB will EAT soco. Their downfall is and always has been there secondary and once its exposed so to will they be.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Titans ()
Date: November 08, 2015 10:23AM

Westfield and Robinson can compete with anyone at any location.
Robinson has a ground and pound offense and will eat the clock and limit the opponents snaps.
Westfield is back to full strength and the offense is clicking finally, add a top tier defensive unit and they will be a tough matchup for anyone.
Ask LB fans how the feel about seeing Westfield on their side of the bracket!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: playoffs ()
Date: November 08, 2015 10:31AM

As much as people are complaining about the 16 team regional playoffs, could you imagine how much complaining would go on if it were reduced to 8? The Conf 5 Concorde folks (Oakton, Chantilly, C-ville all #11 or lower seeds this year) would be complaining about how their tough schedule hurt them more than other schools while schools like West Potomac (#9) would be saying how does a 7-3 record keep you out of the playoffs?

A possible solution would be to give the #1 and #2 seeds a bye but then they would have to play a decent #6 or #7 seed in the next round and if they lost those folks would complain about losing their game rhythm due to the bye. There are plenty of mismatches during the regular season, if a 1-16 or 2-15 matchup bothers you so much then don't pay any attention to the regional playoffs until the 2nd round.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: November 08, 2015 10:54AM

With the regular season over, it's now time to start thinking about all conference teams, and coach of the year awards. I think in conference 6, the leading candidates would have to be Madison's head coach, Washington-Lee's head coach, and South Lakes head coach. I want to give my thoughts on the two of these who should be under consideration and who should not be.

Madison's head coach deserves consideration. Most people thought they would have a good team, but didn't think they would win Conference 6. As it turned out, they lead wire to wire and ended up winning the conference. They compiled a 9-1 record, with the lone loss in their first game v. Oakton. That means they made the adjustments necessary after a loss that could have gotten them down. Let's also not forget that they are only two years removed from a 1-9 season, so this season represents the completion of a remarkable turnaround.

I'd also say that Washington-Lee's head coach deserves consideration. W-L was lightly regarded at the beginning of the season, and their early performance bore this out. However, they had the courage to make a major adjustment at QB, which proved to be the basis for turning around their season, sparking a 4-1 finish and a 5-5 record with a playoff berth. Rather than benching their QB, they found a better place for him to be a contributor. That's what a quality coach does.

Of the remaining six Conference 6 head coaches, the only one that would seem to deserve consideration is Trey Taylor, HC at South Lakes. They have to be in the conversation based South Lakes' remarkable turnaround this year. However, I hope that sportsmanship, as well as coaching ability is a consideration in making this award. If it is, a totally bush league move by South Lakes in the Fairfax game should disqualify the South Lakes head coach. Late in the second quarter, after a Fairfax turnover deep in South Lakes territory, South Lakes scored a touchdown to go up 41-7. South Lakes had two consecutive false start penalties on the extra point, and decided after that to go for two. They made the two point conversion. There is nothing wrong with that, as he probably thought his kicker didn't have the leg for that long of a kick. That's not the problem. The problem was his bush league decision to try an on-side kick on the ensuing kickoff. That was totally unnecessary. South Lakes had the game well in hand. A head coach with class who has the game well in hand will not humiliate a bunch of kids who have done nothing to him and have already suffered enough in a thoroughly disappointing season.

I hope that this is taken into consideration in making this award, and that the award goes to either Madison's or Washington-Lee's head coach.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: November 08, 2015 11:34AM

I was at the game and didn't get the purpose of the onside kick either. I've gone to all the home games and haven't seen them do that in any other game that SL was in complete control of (Herndon game comes to mind). I wondered if it was payback for something the Fairfax coach did last year when everyone was kicking SL's butt but I didn't hear of anything coming from that game. I have daughters at SL so I'm not a football insider.

A thought that did come to mind is that I remember people complaining about SoCo doing this sort of thing and there is no doubt that Taylor's blueprint for building the SL program is SoCo. It should be mentioned that SL played all backups the entire second half against Fairfax. SL intercepted a pass early in the 3rd quarter and returned it inside the 10 and couldn't punch it in with their backups. The resulting field goal were the only points of the second half.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: support sport ()
Date: November 08, 2015 11:39AM

play till there are 4 00:00 on the clock. People talk about life lessons, well there is one there and that is people DON"T have to and WON'T give you anything, if you want it go out and take it. You don't want it to happen well then recover it. That's the problem with people today, they feel as if its owed to them to not get beat down, if it happens SO WHAT coach em up and learn from it. Im sure he will get his whenever it happens. IMO, that's like saying give me a participation trophy just for showing up.

Sometimes it may become personal between coaches, well the kids take on the persona of there coach, if he is fire they are fire if he is water they are water. Pretty simple to me

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: November 08, 2015 11:59AM

SL parent Wrote:
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> I was at the game and didn't get the purpose of
> the onside kick either. I've gone to all the home
> games and haven't seen them do that in any other
> game that SL was in complete control of (Herndon
> game comes to mind). I wondered if it was payback
> for something the Fairfax coach did last year when
> everyone was kicking SL's butt but I didn't hear
> of anything coming from that game. I have
> daughters at SL so I'm not a football insider.
>
> A thought that did come to mind is that I remember
> people complaining about SoCo doing this sort of
> thing and there is no doubt that Taylor's
> blueprint for building the SL program is SoCo. It
> should be mentioned that SL played all backups the
> entire second half against Fairfax. SL intercepted
> a pass early in the 3rd quarter and returned it
> inside the 10 and couldn't punch it in with their
> backups. The resulting field goal were the only
> points of the second half.

Thanks for your comments. If it is payback, I can't imagine what that would be. Last year, Fairfax beat South Lakes, but only 16-7. That's hardly running up the score. I am a football parent. My concern is how the boys might have reacted to that. It's already been a disappointing season, but, believe it or not, there are plenty of boys on our team that care about how they perform and feel totally let down. Plenty of parents feel that way as well. Something like that could lead to chippy play in the second half, possibly leading to a fight on the field. No purpose is served by that, and no one wants to see it. I just want to see the game played, played well on both sides, and for as many players as possible to come out healthy after the game.

I'm sure a lot of backups played the entire second half, but I don't think it was all back ups. There was a big linemen (very noticeable for his size), who I seem to remember being out there for a few series in the second half. Perhaps this is because South Lakes doesn't have enough depth at the line positions to go with all backups. I don't remember his number.

If this is just one isolated incident as you suggest, I'll retract my remarks about Taylor. I don't retract my remarks about the other coaches mentioned, because their performance suggests that they deserve mention for this honor.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: November 08, 2015 12:03PM

support sport Wrote:
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> play till there are 4 00:00 on the clock. People
> talk about life lessons, well there is one there
> and that is people DON"T have to and WON'T give
> you anything, if you want it go out and take it.
> You don't want it to happen well then recover it.
> That's the problem with people today, they feel as
> if its owed to them to not get beat down, if it
> happens SO WHAT coach em up and learn from it. Im
> sure he will get his whenever it happens. IMO,
> that's like saying give me a participation trophy
> just for showing up.
>
> Sometimes it may become personal between coaches,
> well the kids take on the persona of there coach,
> if he is fire they are fire if he is water they
> are water. Pretty simple to me


Actually, Fairfax did recover the onside kick so they ended up with good field position from it. I said I didn't get it but I don't auto-presume it to be poor sportsmanship. Most good coaches in any sport want their kids to play hard in their style against everyone they play as if the score was 0-0. Taylor probably would have left his starters in for the 2nd half if he wanted to run up the score.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 08, 2015 12:21PM

Westfield and Robinson can compete with anyone at any location.
Robinson has a ground and pound offense and will eat the clock and limit the opponents snaps.
Westfield is back to full strength and the offense is clicking finally, add a top tier defensive unit and they will be a tough matchup for anyone.
Ask LB fans how the feel about seeing Westfield on their side of the bracket!!

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Agree with everything except Westfield being back to full strength. They lost their best OL, Ohanian, to a shoulder injury. They lost probably their best all around player and only D1 FBS recruit Clancy, LB/TE/FB, to a torn ACL.

Anyone who knows Westfield football realizes how nice it would be to have a capable blocker on the OL which is what they lost in Ohanian. With Clancy not only a great all around player but clearly their most intense player, defensive captain, and team captain.

Sure would be nice to have both these young men for the post season. But as is the mantra at Westfield like any other program it's next man up. Just hard to replace either of these two. The Bulldogs definitely struggle on the OL, weakest link on the team, and their run defense just isn't as strong, Robinson and Centreville games showed that.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: conf 7 guy ()
Date: November 08, 2015 12:25PM

They could have been getting something on film for a future opponent to have to prepare for.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 16 is the problem ()
Date: November 08, 2015 01:42PM

Re: 16 teams in playoffs....one extra game will not matter. True their will be some blowouts, but there are some very good things about the extra game. The top seeds, if they are in control can reward many of the younger players who have buster their tail all year to play in a playoff game. The lower seeded team gets at least on more week to play. Teams on the rise appreciate that. Like Woodson this year.

If it really just about better football, maybe just give conference 6 three spots, conference 5 five spots, and conference 7 two and cardinal one spot. I am kidding. Let's see this week what happens with the 9-13 seeds this week. The rest of those games will be good.


If you really want to do it right, give top 4 byes and let the next 8 play the first week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 08, 2015 01:55PM

I think you are reading too much into that onside kick attempt. Most coaches like to try 1 or 2 in live game situations throughout the year (unless you are South County and do it all the time) in case of need at some point.

What better time to try one than when you have just taken a commanding and more importantly - SAFE - lead?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 08, 2015 01:57PM

Regarding playoffs -- This was an interesting discussion, but after reading all the viewpoints, I think 16 is right. There are double digit seeds who played arguably tough schedules, and they should get a shot. This means that they should get the opportunity to prove that they are a good team, but with a depressed record based on their strength of schedule. The only drawback of 16 is that it means that the regional playoffs take 4 weeks to complete, plus one additional week for the state championship. That's a lot of football to play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Huh ()
Date: November 08, 2015 02:39PM

Ba ba body Wrote:
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> It's safe to say SOCO has one of the best OFFENSES
> in the state which allows their better than
> average defense to bend often.

Did u not see their defense dominate LB the whole second half on Friday? Talk about secondary they shut the passing attack down in the 4th quarter n overtime so don't see how u say they're not good.. Unless everyone else sucks. They're winning games with multiple turnovers by their offense and a coach who barely punts or kicks deep.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: gotta laugh ()
Date: November 08, 2015 02:56PM

the LB kid dropped a TD on the first play of OT and a slant at the 1 yd line on the 2nd play. There were several other drops throughout the game LB completed passes with 3 soco kids covering one LB receiver. Downside of the single wing If they play again I would hope the LB coaches would go spread and let the QB who threw for 3000 and ran for 1000 and scored 67 on soco last year do what he does best
just a thought

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 08, 2015 03:21PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> The Bulldogs definitely struggle on the OL, weakest
> link on the team,

Agreed, but I would argue RB is the weakest link. The RB's of the last 6-7 years probably made their OL look better than they were.

> and their run defense just isn't as strong, Robinson and Centreville games showed
> that.

Disagree. I don't know that I would use a shutout of Robinson as evidence of a weak run defense. Robinson has a strong OL and tough stable of 3 big RB's. Other than Lee's 35 yard run Westfield was only giving up 3.9 yards a carry. I thought they kept Robinson's running game under control - they forced 4 punts and 3 turnovers on downs. Not bad. Centreville averaged about 3.3 yards a carry. Not bad again. They are not good enough to totally shut down strong offenses...

Actually, if you go by points allowed per game, this was Westfield's fourth best defensive season ever.

But no doubt, if they make it to the regional semis they will be an underdog. Unless their offense actually shows the ability to sustain consecutive drives throughout a game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Huh ()
Date: November 08, 2015 03:23PM

F@@king Morons from Lorton, what part of better than Average says they are not Good.... Dip Shit no wonder you say Huh to everything, reading comprehension it's a learned skill!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 08, 2015 03:44PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> The Bulldogs definitely struggle on the OL, weakest
> link on the team,

Agreed, but I would argue RB is the weakest link. The RB's of the last 6-7 years probably made their OL look better than they were.

> and their run defense just isn't as strong, Robinson and Centreville games showed
> that.

Disagree. I don't know that I would use a shutout of Robinson as evidence of a weak run defense. Robinson has a strong OL and tough stable of 3 big RB's. Other than Lee's 35 yard run Westfield was only giving up 3.9 yards a carry. I thought they kept Robinson's running game under control - they forced 4 punts and 3 turnovers on downs. Not bad. Centreville averaged about 3.3 yards a carry. Not bad again. They are not good enough to totally shut down strong offenses...

Actually, if you go by points allowed per game, this was Westfield's fourth best defensive season ever.

But no doubt, if they make it to the regional semis they will be an underdog. Unless their offense actually shows the ability to sustain consecutive drives throughout a game.

--------------------

I like your analysis, remember though, I didn't say Westfield's run defense was weak, just not as strong as it was. Not having Clancy patrolling the middle of the field making plays is a pretty sizeable loss. Petrillo has stepped up nicely but there is definitely a void.

On offense they don't have a premier RB like in the past but even a run of the mill one could be valuable with space to run. The OL for Westfield is a catastrophe, seems like even the majority of passing downs Scanlon's back there scrambling for his life.

I've been watchning the Bulldogs for 12 years now, can't ever remember an OL that was this weak. Even more amazing is there doesn't seem to be any progress from week to week. That unit will be their downfall in the post season unfortunately.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: support sport ()
Date: November 08, 2015 03:45PM

they are not good #14 was getting picked on, def made some and gave up some
21 was getting killed on every corner route by #11
they stacked the box with the 4/4 and played man on outside
they have a team full of zone dbs none can really play m/m, but bottom line is on Friday night they got the job done

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 83 sucks ()
Date: November 08, 2015 05:29PM

gotta laugh Wrote:
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> the LB kid dropped a TD on the first play of OT
> and a slant at the 1 yd line on the 2nd play.
> There were several other drops throughout the game
> LB completed passes with 3 soco kids covering one
> LB receiver. Downside of the single wing If they
> play again I would hope the LB coaches would go
> spread and let the QB who threw for 3000 and ran
> for 1000 and scored 67 on soco last year do what
> he does best
> just a thought

That receiver is SORRY refs bailed him out on two PIs made a good catch n run that was it 83 couldn't handle a db in his face at all anyone who has ever played past high school can tell. #11 had a great game looked like a lot of busted coverages though. In OT the kid kept getting his arms raked apart that's simply good corner play. Put this game to bed LB was scared to tackle big 40 even their "D1" players looked like they were avoiding contact or going in to hit With their eyes closed. I hope LB does spread them out the next time they play because #8 from LB is pedestrian and giving him the ball in single wing obviously won't work.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Soco loves the Refs ()
Date: November 08, 2015 05:37PM

Bailed out by the refs have to laugh Soco threw what was a pick six on last possession Ref came running in after a made a phantom illegal motion call which really doesn't matter because the play had been completed. Giving the defense the right to refuse the penalty. Happened to be the same ref who missed the illegal motion on the fake punt and blew 2 fumble calls. Go watch Gameday. it was a joke

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: High ()
Date: November 08, 2015 05:42PM

Did they release the all conference players yet ?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All conference ()
Date: November 08, 2015 06:16PM

High Wrote:
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> Did they release the all conference players yet ?


Ditto ?????

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO loves the refs :) ()
Date: November 08, 2015 06:21PM

Soco loves the Refs Wrote:
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> Bailed out by the refs have to laugh Soco threw
> what was a pick six on last possession Ref came
> running in after a made a phantom illegal motion
> call which really doesn't matter because the play
> had been completed. Giving the defense the right
> to refuse the penalty. Happened to be the same ref
> who missed the illegal motion on the fake punt and
> blew 2 fumble calls. Go watch Gameday. it was a
> joke


Just like the "catch" 9 made right? On game day u can clearly see the play blown dead the Wr even stopped. LB can't make any excuses when u lose while up 27-7 blame your coaching staff.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 08, 2015 06:22PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> I've been watchning the Bulldogs for 12 years now,
> can't ever remember an OL that was this weak. Even
> more amazing is there doesn't seem to be any
> progress from week to week. That unit will be
> their downfall in the post season unfortunately.

I agree it is not the strongest OL they have had in my memory either - but it is my opinion that people are overstating how bad they are. Coaches must agree because they have 1 1st Team All-District, 2 2nd team All-District and 1 Honorable Mention from the OL.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All conference ()
Date: November 08, 2015 06:59PM

Is this published or have you just heard from players

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Joe Bugle ()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:29PM

Clearly the success of past years offensive line strengths have covered up the weakness of the Line Coach who is clueless, they Sadly miss Zion McKinney on the sideline. You can't have a stable full of 250# plus bodies and not control the box...old Head Hogg says Simmons needs to make a change....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 08, 2015 10:17PM

Oakton will destroy SL on Friday night. Can't believe we got so lucky with our draw, it won't even be funny. Rowley is a top coach and will have his players ready to go, believe it! The puny SL O-Line will be tossed around by the mighty Cougs Front 7. Anyone who picks SL is an idiot, there's no chance they win this Friday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 08, 2015 10:42PM

Oakton Wrote:
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> Oakton will destroy SL on Friday night. Can't
> believe we got so lucky with our draw, it won't
> even be funny. Rowley is a top coach and will have
> his players ready to go, believe it! The puny SL
> O-Line will be tossed around by the mighty Cougs
> Front 7. Anyone who picks SL is an idiot, there's
> no chance they win this Friday.


Hmmm... that's mighty confident. Common opponent results:

Madison 38, South Lakes 6
Oakton 31, Madison 25

South Lakes 50, Herndon 14
Oakton 35, Herndon 0

I would look for something like: Oakton 28, South Lakes 17.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: support sport ()
Date: November 08, 2015 11:06PM

Soco loves the Refs Wrote:
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> Bailed out by the refs have to laugh Soco threw
> what was a pick six on last possession Ref came
> running in after a made a phantom illegal motion
> call which really doesn't matter because the play
> had been completed. Giving the defense the right
> to refuse the penalty. Happened to be the same ref
> who missed the illegal motion on the fake punt and
> blew 2 fumble calls. Go watch Gameday. it was a
> joke

SOCO started putting that wood to all of LB's little star wr's and slowly but surely they started getting them gator arms after getting smoked by the hits of soco.

#40 was a man and he and his hard running won that game.

LB was given so many opportunities it was awful, so don't talk about refs they were awful, but consistently awful, like #9 getting drilled and fumbles soco does scoop and score then get block in back penalty during that return and after what should of been a fumble pick 6 it ended up being a plus 15 for LB

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Too much horesetrading ()
Date: November 09, 2015 07:51AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've been watchning the Bulldogs for 12 years
> now,
> > can't ever remember an OL that was this weak.
> Even
> > more amazing is there doesn't seem to be any
> > progress from week to week. That unit will be
> > their downfall in the post season
> unfortunately.
>
> I agree it is not the strongest OL they have had
> in my memory either - but it is my opinion that
> people are overstating how bad they are. Coaches
> must agree because they have 1 1st Team
> All-District, 2 2nd team All-District and 1
> Honorable Mention from the OL.


Westfield is the no. 1 team in conference 5. They will have more kids on the all conference team then anyone else. Not an accurate representation of their offensive line skill. They do not have 1 player that belongs on 1st team from that offensive line. But you couldn't choose a running back, 3 of the receivers were part of the suspended crowd, hard to pick one of them and that leaves QB and Oline. So a deserving kid had his rightful honor traded away. Just the way it is.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCo TO's ()
Date: November 09, 2015 08:24AM

Almost Wrote:
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> soco guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > do y'all think that soco just turned the corner
> > with this win?
>
>
> Not quite still waaay too many turnovers. If they
> fix that watch out!

They only had three turnovers, and only lost the one. Braddock had two and lost both, not sure where the five turnovers came from ha-ha.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: lb smh ()
Date: November 09, 2015 10:05AM

how does LB with the alleged "best defense" in the area give up a 20 point lead? They had the game won smh... Soco was the more physical and athletic team top to bottom. Lb had a couple better athletes maybe.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Soco vs. LB ()
Date: November 09, 2015 01:16PM

That might of been one of the better atmospheres I've seen at a NR high school game in a while. Hope these two meet up again for it all!!

Soco was a more physical and better conditioned group. LB couldn't keep up in the second half. They knew it was over when Soco took a knee and said, "Let's play some more!!!"

Great game between two good teams, hope this plays out again in four weeks!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF D is best ()
Date: November 09, 2015 03:28PM

Too much horsetrading wrote:

"Westfield is the no. 1 team in conference 5. They will have more kids on the all conference team then anyone else. Not an accurate representation of their offensive line skill. They do not have 1 player that belongs on 1st team from that offensive line. But you couldn't choose a running back, 3 of the receivers were part of the suspended crowd, hard to pick one of them and that leaves QB and Oline. So a deserving kid had his rightful honor traded away. Just the way it is"

Lot of kids on the list but only two position players on offense. One oline and one tight end. That is about right. WF is all about D this year. Offense was very inconsistent. Way down point wise from last year. Can't run it and run around and chuck it won't work deep in the playoffs. Coach Simmons tweeted it out.

Oakton wrote: "....Mighty Cougs front 7"...come on now. That D gave up more points than any program in their conference games....Cardelli and Hart can play......not much else there on the front 7. You can't give up 42 to Rob, 38 to WF and 28 to CH and talk any smack....only Herndon gave up more.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glade Drive ()
Date: November 09, 2015 05:13PM

With SL, the front 7 do not mean Squat...it's your back 4 that will get Stretched worse than all the Ol Cougars in the stands...Track Stars coming to play...Bacon can only cover one and he's .20 slower than their slowest receiver...enjoy Drowning your sorrows in Chili dogs and flat beer..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 09, 2015 09:54PM

Oakton has a very formidable secondary, led be Beale, an all-district superstar who will shred the Seahawks on both sides of the ball. Bacon may not be the fastest, but he is certainly the most shifty receiver I've seen all season and is great in open space. Banbury will anchor a mediocre O_Line, but no worries, were going against a weak SL front 7 that gave up 50 points to Little Brother a.k.a. Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 09, 2015 09:57PM

WF D is best Wrote:
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> Too much horsetrading wrote:
>
> "Westfield is the no. 1 team in conference 5. They
> will have more kids on the all conference team
> then anyone else. Not an accurate representation
> of their offensive line skill. They do not have 1
> player that belongs on 1st team from that
> offensive line. But you couldn't choose a running
> back, 3 of the receivers were part of the
> suspended crowd, hard to pick one of them and that
> leaves QB and Oline. So a deserving kid had his
> rightful honor traded away. Just the way it is"
>
> Lot of kids on the list but only two position
> players on offense. One oline and one tight end.
> That is about right. WF is all about D this year.
> Offense was very inconsistent. Way down point wise
> from last year. Can't run it and run around and
> chuck it won't work deep in the playoffs. Coach
> Simmons tweeted it out.
>
> Oakton wrote: "....Mighty Cougs front 7"...come on
> now. That D gave up more points than any program
> in their conference games....Cardelli and Hart can
> play......not much else there on the front 7. You
> can't give up 42 to Rob, 38 to WF and 28 to CH and
> talk any smack....only Herndon gave up more.
I can't say much against WF Except Rowley runs the cleanest program in the Concorde, unlike the thugs at WF who seem to avoid serious punishment for serious violations cause they play football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hahahaha ()
Date: November 10, 2015 08:25AM

SOCO was Posing Wrote:
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> SOCO? Better say Uh oh!
>
> LB is playing ball, what is SOCO doing? Same thing
> they always do - LOSE!


Please eat your words sir!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Thicker than Guido ()
Date: November 10, 2015 10:49AM

oh and don't forget the "KNEE- CAPPER" the Free Safety that Targets Knees...the one that habitually goes Low, Rowley Knows all about Him..Gotta Be some ITALIAN in that Kids Family.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: THUGZ ()
Date: November 10, 2015 10:59AM

OAKTON- Please elaborate on which thugz at WF "Avoid serious punishment for serious violations" would you be speaking about the D-1 running back, probably the most dynamic Athlete in the Region that NEVER took a snap all year because "He wasn't held accountable" ? or Possibly your speaking about any one of the 6 Starters that Missed the first four games of the year because "they weren't held accountable" perhaps you could enlighten us on whom else needs to be held accountable at WF which other THUGZ are they not reigning in? Hopefully you survive SL so you can Reveal your Thug Banner next Friday at WF and Remember the A$$ Whooping YOU received when "ALL the THUGZ" weren't in the line-up because WF doesn't hold anyone accountable...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hmmmmm ()
Date: November 10, 2015 11:33AM

I really dislike Westfield, but I agree with the above post. I think their coaches and admin staff run a great program.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who? ()
Date: November 10, 2015 11:50AM

oh and don't forget the "KNEE- CAPPER" the Free Safety that Targets Knees...the one that habitually goes Low, Rowley Knows all about Him..Gotta Be some ITALIAN in that Kids Family.

-------------------------------

Who would that be, not sure who you're referring to?

Also, agree with the above post, WF kicked one of their best players off the team and suspended the other 5 kids. Not sure what else they were supposed to do. Most schools would have probably kept the RB based off of athletic ability. They sure could use someone as dynamic as him now that's for sure.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: had no choice ()
Date: November 10, 2015 01:53PM

Who? Wrote:
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> oh and don't forget the "KNEE- CAPPER" the Free
> Safety that Targets Knees...the one that
> habitually goes Low, Rowley Knows all about
> Him..Gotta Be some ITALIAN in that Kids Family.
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Who would that be, not sure who you're referring
> to?
>
> Also, agree with the above post, WF kicked one of
> their best players off the team and suspended the
> other 5 kids. Not sure what else they were
> supposed to do. Most schools would have probably
> kept the RB based off of athletic ability. They
> sure could use someone as dynamic as him now
> that's for sure.

The kid was arrested for drug possession. The coaches did nothing valiant, the player is no longer in school.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 10, 2015 02:03PM

It's called ankle picking it's how all the DB's tackle at Oalton.... He's also been switched into the rotation at corner, and someone else is playing free, that's what I last observed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: really? ()
Date: November 10, 2015 04:30PM

Beale, seriously? He's a decent cover corner, but he is less aggressive than the Oakton girl's basketball team. Afraid to get hit and afraid to catch the ball on punts. Overrated.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: chantilly Madison ()
Date: November 10, 2015 04:47PM

Chantilly at Madison is an very intriguing match up. Can Tilly pull off the upset?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Footballer12 ()
Date: November 10, 2015 04:59PM

Chantilly Madison wrote:

Chantilly at Madison is an very intriguing match up. Can Tilly pull off the upset?

Chantilly can but they have to play very well which they haven't recently. They have skill players as good as anyone in Conference 5 or 6 but they lack size and experience on both lines. It should be a fun game to watch.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Madison is Oakton's little bro ()
Date: November 10, 2015 06:30PM

Madison has played one formidable opponent all season... Against Oakton, who they again lost to for the 8th straight season. TILLY will beat cupcake-schedule Madison. TILLY could surprise some in the playoffs, Tamarro is the real deal.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Who? ()
Date: November 10, 2015 06:39PM

The kid was arrested for drug possession. The coaches did nothing valiant, the player is no longer in school.

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He wasn't arrested, if he had been he would have been in jail since I believe he's 18. He was never apprehended, never taken in, and still walking the streets free.

Plus, the point was that WF did what they should have done, suspended those that deserved it and the same for the discarded RB. All in response to the previous poster who said the "thugs" at WF avoided serious punishment, they received what they deserved.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: o'rielly ()
Date: November 10, 2015 06:54PM

Madison is Oakton's little bro Wrote:
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> Madison has played one formidable opponent all
> season... Against Oakton, who they again lost to
> for the 8th straight season. TILLY will beat
> cupcake-schedule Madison. TILLY could surprise
> some in the playoffs, Tamarro is the real deal.


So I guess Stone Bridge isn't formidable? They may not be this year but they dispatch with Tilly and other than oakton is the two schools only common opponent. Oakton peaked early and Tilly has some playmakers but is soft as usual this year, I think Madison wins it in a close one.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OaktonRedneck ()
Date: November 10, 2015 08:37PM

Don't know who is posting for Oakton - Probably one of the parents that think they know it all in the stands. Look, we are lucky to be in the playoffs and we are going to play hard against the better seeded better record south lakes. Whoever is posting that doesn't speak for the team. South Lakes already proved they can beat us from a scrimmage at the beginning of the year. It is a tough game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 11, 2015 09:17AM

What teams are capable of winning the region?

Obviously Lake Braddock and South County are capable. Is there anyone else??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 11, 2015 09:49AM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> What teams are capable of winning the region?
>
> Obviously Lake Braddock and South County are
> capable. Is there anyone else??


On Any Given Friday Night . . . anyone.




Except Annandale or Woodson. They stink.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wNNjX ()
Date: November 11, 2015 09:51AM

Answer: South County, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Robinson.

I think all four are pretty evenly matched. SOCO has defeated LB by 3 and WFD by 6. LB beat ROB by 7 and WFD beat ROB by 3. But as others have mentioned - it is hard to beat the same team twice in one season.

I really don't see anyone else with any chance at all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Seen them all ()
Date: November 11, 2015 10:24AM

I completely agree with your four. I have a seen all of those teams at least 2x as well as many others. Have not seen West Springfield or SLakes. I think your order is right too. I have no skin in this game. SC and LB are balanced offensively and very very athletic. Big too. LB will learn from the last game w/ SC...that could and likely will be a great final.

WF really is holding it together with a playground offense and a very good D. Eventually (LB on the road or SC) they just wont be able to get it done. Teams will send everyone at them and QB will have to just chuck it up. And with any bad weather, they are toast since they can't run at all.

Robinson can do it but so one dimensional on offense. They will have play flawlessly.

No one else really has a good shot at it.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: November 11, 2015 01:25PM

Thanks for posting the lines. I'll take my shot at calling these games:

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Funny how the brackets worked out. In 1 quartile
> you have 4 Patriot District teams, in another you
> have 3 Concorde’s; honestly beyond the top 3
> seeds, everyone is really vulnerable this week.
> Lots of great games, the 5A margins are tough
> knowing little about the competition.
>
> 6A
> 16 Annandale @ 1 South County (-25.0)
> *Annandale had a very solid season, but no way
> they come out of Lorton with a W.

Agree with the nice words about Annandale, but also agree with the assessment of their chances against SC. I look for SC to win by 28. SC wins and covers
>
> 9 West Potomac @ 8 West Springfield (-3.0)
> *I know West Springfield smoked West Po last time,
> but I can see this going either way. I look for
> the home team to win a close one. It is very
> interesting that this quartile of the bracket has
> all Patriot District teams.

I'd have to think that West Springfield's loss to Woodson shook them out of any complacency they were feeling. I look for WS to win by seven. WS wins and covers.
>
> 12 Centreville @ 5 Robinson (-7.5)
> *I know Robinson won comfortably last night, but I
> am a big Coach Haddock fan, he will make some
> adjustments and this will be a great game too.

It's hard to beat a team twice in the same season, but I think Robo will do that. But not comfortably. Robo wins, but doesn't cover.
>
> 13 Chantilly @ 4 Madison (-10.0)
> *Chantilly is limping in with 3 straight losses
> while Madison comes in on a 9 game winning streak.
> Chantilly’s offensive line has struggled this
> year and I’m not crazy about the matchup. That
> being said for a 9-1 team to draw Chantilly, the
> Chargers have the fire power to pull this one
> off… This has great game potential too.

Madison may not get respect due to being a Liberty/Conference 6 team, but they are the real deal. I think Madison wins by two TDs. Madison wins and covers.
>
> 14 Washington-Lee @ 3 Westfield (-14.0)
> *Washington-Lee is playing some strong football
> the past few weeks, they just don’t have the
> talent to beat Westfield even when they play their
> best.

I really admire what the WL coaching staff did to get the most out of the talent they had, finishing 4-1 down the stretch and playing Madison tough in their only loss. While taking nothing away from their personnel adjustments that lead to their success, two of those wins were against Langley and Fairfax, so I'm sure that WL grabbed two of those wins simply by outcoaching their opponents. However, I think the fairy tale season ends on Friday. I look for Westfield to win by 28. Westfield wins and covers.
>
> 11 Oakton (-7.0) @ 6 South Lakes
> *I’m not a Liberty Conference believer, I think
> the battle tested Cougars strength of schedule
> will be the difference in this one.

South Lakes had a good season this year. I don't entirely agree that they are weak merely because they are a Liberty Team. Because I'm getting points, I'll take South lakes in this one. I really don't know who will win, though.
>
> 10 Hayfield @ 7 Battlefield (-14.0)

This is anyone's guess, but I'll take Battlefield to win and cover.
>
> 15 WT Woodson @ 2 Lake Braddock (-35.5)

The fairy tale is over for Woodson, as well. I look for Braddock to stomp them. LB wins and covers.
>

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 11, 2015 03:32PM

Westfield, obviously

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 11, 2015 03:33PM

6A
16 Annandale @ 1 South County (-25.0)
*Annandale had a very solid season, but no way they come out of Lorton with a W.

Yeah, this one's going to be a running clock for the second half. SC wins and covers.

9 West Potomac @ 8 West Springfield (-3.0)
*I know West Springfield smoked West Po last time, but I can see this going either way. I look for the home team to win a close one. It is very interesting that this quartile of the bracket has all Patriot District teams.

WP played their worst game of the season the first time around. Things will be different this time. WP wins by 7.


12 Centreville @ 5 Robinson (-7.5)
*I know Robinson won comfortably last night, but I am a big Coach Haddock fan, he will make some adjustments and this will be a great game too.

Robinson wins but doesn't cover.

13 Chantilly @ 4 Madison (-10.0)
*Chantilly is limping in with 3 straight losses while Madison comes in on a 9 game winning streak. Chantilly’s offensive line has struggled this year and I’m not crazy about the matchup. That being said for a 9-1 team to draw Chantilly, the Chargers have the fire power to pull this one off… This has great game potential too.

Madison wins but doesn't cover.

14 Washington-Lee @ 3 Westfield (-14.0)
*Washington-Lee is playing some strong football the past few weeks, they just don’t have the talent to beat Westfield even when they play their best.

Westfield wins by 21.

11 Oakton (-7.0) @ 6 South Lakes
*I’m not a Liberty Conference believer, I think the battle tested Cougars strength of schedule will be the difference in this one.

Oakton wins and covers.

10 Hayfield @ 7 Battlefield (-14.0)

Battlefield wins but doesn't cover.

15 WT Woodson @ 2 Lake Braddock (-35.5)

Woodson lacks the chemistry to beat Braddock. Braddock burns them by 36.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 6 guy ()
Date: November 11, 2015 07:38PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Funny how the brackets worked out. In 1 quartile
> you have 4 Patriot District teams, in another you
> have 3 Concorde’s; honestly beyond the top 3
> seeds, everyone is really vulnerable this week.
> Lots of great games, the 5A margins are tough
> knowing little about the competition.
>
> 6A
> 16 Annandale @ 1 South County (-25.0)
> *Annandale had a very solid season, but no way
> they come out of Lorton with a W.

Soco wins and covers easily. Spread should probably be +10 higher.

>
> 9 West Potomac @ 8 West Springfield (-3.0)
> *I know West Springfield smoked West Po last time,
> but I can see this going either way. I look for
> the home team to win a close one. It is very
> interesting that this quartile of the bracket has
> all Patriot District teams.

Pretty much a pick em game for me, therefore I'll guess WP covers. I could see a 1-3 point win either way.

>
> 12 Centreville @ 5 Robinson (-7.5)
> *I know Robinson won comfortably last night, but I
> am a big Coach Haddock fan, he will make some
> adjustments and this will be a great game too.

they just played last week and Robinson won by 21. Probably in ground and pound predictable manner at that. I don't see why this game would be any different or what adjustments Haddock could possibly make. Robinson wins and covers.

>
> 13 Chantilly @ 4 Madison (-10.0)
> *Chantilly is limping in with 3 straight losses
> while Madison comes in on a 9 game winning streak.
> Chantilly’s offensive line has struggled this
> year and I’m not crazy about the matchup. That
> being said for a 9-1 team to draw Chantilly, the
> Chargers have the fire power to pull this one
> off… This has great game potential too.

These top-Liberty vs. mid-Concorde games are tough to pick. Westfield and Robinson are clearly legit but everyone else in the Concorde is clearly down and this conference isn't nearly as deep as in years past. Madison has had a great year but their only quality wins have been against Stone Bridge (respectable but not what they used to be), South Lakes (much improved but not ready for prime time), and Hayfield (clearly overrated). I think Madison has a good qb, senior leadership, and is physical enough to win but I'm not sure they'll cover.

>
> 14 Washington-Lee @ 3 Westfield (-14.0)
> *Washington-Lee is playing some strong football
> the past few weeks, they just don’t have the
> talent to beat Westfield even when they play their
> best.

This spread should probably be 21+, Westfield wins and covers easily.

>
> 11 Oakton (-7.0) @ 6 South Lakes
> *I’m not a Liberty Conference believer, I think
> the battle tested Cougars strength of schedule
> will be the difference in this one.

Oakton had a murders row stretch of games with Tusky, Robinson and Westfield early in the season. While that schedule would battle test anyone they got crushed by all of them which probably didn't do much for their confidence. Other than Madison in week 1 their only decent win was against C-ville and even that's questionable with them going 4-6. They finished with wins against Falls Church (why even schedule them?) and Herndon which are cannon fodder programs. I wouldn't be shocked by either team winning but I think SL will at least cover if not win outright at home.

>
> 10 Hayfield @ 7 Battlefield (-14.0)

Battlefield wins and covers easily.

>
> 15 WT Woodson @ 2 Lake Braddock (-35.5)

Spread is about right, I'll say Woodson covers but loses by 35.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rolling road ()
Date: November 11, 2015 09:08PM

Playoffs should be good this year. LB and SC are the top dogs for sure. #25 from LB is tough to tackle and #9 from SC is a top 5 skill player in the region. However SC defense has struggled at times. I'm surprised the WS kid didn't get offered on that game alone.

Robinson is just too 1 dimensional and WF won't be able to score against the elite teams although their defense is the best in the area even without their D1 ILB.

If LB wants to win the region they need to make some changes on offense. They can ground and pound Most teams but that won't work against SC. They only had two offensive TD's against SC versus the route they put on them last year. They need to consider the spread. Ironically, they ran the ball the whole year until the final minutes against SC where they threw at the end of regulation and three straight times in OT.

If WS could stop the run they would have a legitimate chance because they have and can score on anyone. However, to win in the playoffs you have to be able to stop the run and they can't.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Some Jew ()
Date: November 11, 2015 10:27PM

Football is for closeted faggots and nigger lovers. I do get a good laugh at all the fat white dads with their trophy wives (who are not aging well I might add) while they cheer on their son in a field of antiquated farm equipment. If you're white and watch the NFL, you're a fucking pussy and should just start sucking nigger dick since it's obviously a fantasy of yours. If you're not a nigger and play high school football - watch out for the niggers, they play dirty and don't like to lose. Most are also borderline retarded - it's a statistical fact.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Triple Ks ()
Date: November 11, 2015 11:04PM

SEGRAGATION TODAY SEGRATION TOMORROW SEGRATION FOREVER!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cute ()
Date: November 12, 2015 02:55PM

Your mother must be so proud.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Where's Muran ()
Date: November 13, 2015 08:32AM

Wanted to see what Muran thought about the upcoming playoffs in the Northern Region??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: briarwoodsfail ()
Date: November 13, 2015 12:21PM

Briar Woods vs. Broad Run game of the week?! What a joke. Everyone has been talking up Briar Woods all year long and they just keep on losing. And they will lose yet again. They will end up being hyped as the best 3-8 team ever.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Round EYE Sushi ()
Date: November 13, 2015 01:30PM

Muran aw weady squeeze big butt into mankini style singet, Muran much anticipate wolling awound on mat with man, Muran like to make sweat on wubber mat with other boy..Muran no thinky futboll, Muran wessle now!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I agree ()
Date: November 13, 2015 01:49PM

briarwoodsfail Wrote:
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> Briar Woods vs. Broad Run game of the week?! What
> a joke. Everyone has been talking up Briar Woods
> all year long and they just keep on losing. And
> they will lose yet again. They will end up being
> hyped as the best 3-8 team ever.

There are way better games tonight! They give BW's way too much credit for being an awful team!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Imposter ()
Date: November 13, 2015 01:53PM

Round EYE Sushi Wrote:
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> Muran aw weady squeeze big butt into mankini style
> singet, Muran much anticipate wolling awound on
> mat with man, Muran like to make sweat on wubber
> mat with other boy..Muran no thinky futboll, Muran
> wessle now!


^^^ NOT MURAN

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Rules ()
Date: November 13, 2015 03:07PM

Tilly will shock Madison 31-14. Heard it here first, folks.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly? ()
Date: November 13, 2015 03:13PM

I heard Chantilly's quarterback was the one that had a breakdown and got tasered by police in the boys bathroom. Heard this from a football team parent. Pretty sure they aren't winning.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TAMMARO ()
Date: November 13, 2015 03:44PM

Tilly? Wrote:
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> I heard Chantilly's quarterback was the one that
> had a breakdown and got tasered by police in the
> boys bathroom. Heard this from a football team
> parent. Pretty sure they aren't winning.


TAMMARO 1st Team All-District QB. No taser is gonna stop him.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Rules ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:21PM

Madison.....cough cough...Choke..nice job Chantilly..27 to 19 victory

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rundown ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:26PM

West po dominate win
South Lakes lives another day
Robinson squeezes out the W
Lake Braddock pitches the shut out
Westfield W

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Great game at Robinson ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:28PM

Both teams too many penalties. Centreville came to play tonight. Robinson cheap shot artists. Idiot no. 27 almost cost his team the game trying to get one last cheap shot on final play of game gave Centreville one more chance almost completed hail mary. Not sure who #27 for Robinson is but he is a royal piece of shit, must have taken at least 6 cheap shots that we counted in the stands.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jdusu ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:28PM

WP at soco
Chantilly at Robinson
SL at WF
Battlefield at LB

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SLHS ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:29PM

Oakton Wrote:
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> Oakton will destroy SL on Friday night. Can't
> believe we got so lucky with our draw, it won't
> even be funny. Rowley is a top coach and will have
> his players ready to go, believe it! The puny SL
> O-Line will be tossed around by the mighty Cougs
> Front 7. Anyone who picks SL is an idiot, there's
> no chance they win this Friday.


Read em and weep Oakton troll, SL-35 Oakton-28.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: glad not mine ()
Date: November 13, 2015 10:54PM

Great game at Robinson Wrote:
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> Both teams too many penalties. Centreville came
> to play tonight. Robinson cheap shot artists.
> Idiot no. 27 almost cost his team the game trying
> to get one last cheap shot on final play of game
> gave Centreville one more chance almost completed
> hail mary. Not sure who #27 for Robinson is but
> he is a royal piece of shit, must have taken at
> least 6 cheap shots that we counted in the stands.


at the end of the day #27 is a child, a kid someone's kid, remember that

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Glad ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:06PM

Some ones kid who is acting a fool, it takes a village to raise an idiot, maybe just maybe an a$$ Whooping by some ones parent solves the issue...remember he's just a kid who will continue to be a prick until some one punches him in the nose, you sorry sack of enabler!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football fan 88 ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:08PM

The South Lakes Oakton game was the worst officiated game I have ever seen. It was easily 10 to 1 flags against Oakton. Calls were blatant against Oakton. Then to top it off they bad the last TD upheld after the SL kid dropped the ball in the endzone. South Lakes stole one tonight.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: refs in the stands ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:18PM

Football fan 88 Wrote:
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> The South Lakes Oakton game was the worst
> officiated game I have ever seen. It was easily 10
> to 1 flags against Oakton. Calls were blatant
> against Oakton. Then to top it off they bad the
> last TD upheld after the SL kid dropped the ball
> in the endzone. South Lakes stole one tonight.


What were you on the field while the game was going on? Oakton got flagged 10 times more because they were holding 10 times more. They did call a roughing the qb penalty on SL and didn't call one on a more obvious one against oakton (at least from my perspective in the stands- the SL qb is a lot smaller than oaktons too). Bitching about the refs is just a bunch of whiney loser talk anyway. Enjoy your offseason redistricting bowl losers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: bdhe ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:19PM

What's with LB coach? Is he mentally ill? Leaving starters in when up by 42 and trying to make a playoffs run.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Need no lecture ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:28PM

glad not mine Wrote:
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> Great game at Robinson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Both teams too many penalties. Centreville
> came
> > to play tonight. Robinson cheap shot artists.
> > Idiot no. 27 almost cost his team the game
> trying
> > to get one last cheap shot on final play of
> game
> > gave Centreville one more chance almost
> completed
> > hail mary. Not sure who #27 for Robinson is
> but
> > he is a royal piece of shit, must have taken at
> > least 6 cheap shots that we counted in the
> stands.
>
>
> at the end of the day #27 is a child, a kid
> someone's kid, remember that

They raised a piece of shit. He took a countless cheap shots, one that should have resulted in a ejection when the whistle had blown and the player was defenseless. Need no lectures from you, if this assessment of their child's character stings, they need to self reflect and have him get his behavior under control because his play does not belong on the football field.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Big upset! ()
Date: November 13, 2015 11:43PM

The Eastman brothers, Tammaro, Snedeker, Rossi, Meehan...sparks and Montgomery...madison went down and they were shocked! Chargers were on!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: At SL tonight ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:14AM

It was a fun game to watch at South Lakes tonight. It was probably one of the better games in the region. Two teams battled and the Seahawks were just better in the end. They made more plays than Oakton. South Lakes has had a very good season. Good luck next week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Step back ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:16AM

Let's take a step back and before talking about the cheap late hits #27 from Robinson made, make are we don't forget the TARGETING #6 on centreville did. Defenseless kid, okay was ready past them, and richbourg aimed straight for his head. Knocked the Robinson kid out and then centreville celebrated. If that was the NFL, he would have been kicked out of the game.
Sounds like a cville parent is just upset that their mighty wildcats went 4-6 and then lost first round of the playoffs. Both teams had their cheap shots and both teams got punished for them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: upset! ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:30AM

Chantillys defense in the second half was beyond impressive. Dline led by Hajibadri, had put pressure on Gastrock all night. Solid win by Tilly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Number of teams in playoffs II ()
Date: November 14, 2015 08:31AM

The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won or were leading in the fourth....looks like 16 is not a bad number

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Check the film ()
Date: November 14, 2015 08:35AM

Step back Wrote:
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> Let's take a step back and before talking about
> the cheap late hits #27 from Robinson made, make
> are we don't forget the TARGETING #6 on
> centreville did. Defenseless kid, okay was ready
> past them, and richbourg aimed straight for his
> head. Knocked the Robinson kid out and then
> centreville celebrated. If that was the NFL, he
> would have been kicked out of the game.
> Sounds like a cville parent is just upset that
> their mighty wildcats went 4-6 and then lost first
> round of the playoffs. Both teams had their cheap
> shots and both teams got punished for them.


Nope, he would not have been kicked out of the game douche bag, it was a clean hit, watched the tape frame by frame, clean block against a player stepping up to make a tackle. #6 had just been checked for a concussion from the cheap shot he received from #27 while on the ground after the whistle had blown. Clearly fired up from the dirt bag behavior. He was targeted two other times and Robinson was flagged once and should have been flagged a 2nd time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: November 14, 2015 09:42AM

At SL tonight Wrote:
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> It was a fun game to watch at South Lakes tonight.
> It was probably one of the better games in the
> region. Two teams battled and the Seahawks were
> just better in the end. They made more plays than
> Oakton. South Lakes has had a very good season.
> Good luck next week.

Agreed. When SL threw the pick after going down a touchdown early in the 4th and Oakton took it in to go up by 2 touchdowns SL looked finished. #3 for Oakton was running wild on them and making up 2 tds against a concorde team isn't like making up that deficit against Langley. They converted a 4th down on the next series deep in their own territory and took it in to close the gap. Kudos to coach Taylor and the SL kids for never giving up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 14, 2015 09:58AM

Why does everyone make the assumption that if someone makes comments about the refs or cheap shots that they are saying it cost a team to lose. Didn't see or read that Robinson won because of those calls or missed calls. Yes the refs were bad. What else is new!! It was a game that was fun to watch and wasn't over to the last play of the game. The wildcats put up a good fight. Good luck to Robinson in the weeks to come.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: spade ()
Date: November 14, 2015 10:20AM

Need no lecture Wrote:
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> glad not mine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Great game at Robinson Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Both teams too many penalties. Centreville
> > came
> > > to play tonight. Robinson cheap shot artists.
>
> > > Idiot no. 27 almost cost his team the game
> > trying
> > > to get one last cheap shot on final play of
> > game
> > > gave Centreville one more chance almost
> > completed
> > > hail mary. Not sure who #27 for Robinson is
> > but
> > > he is a royal piece of shit, must have taken
> at
> > > least 6 cheap shots that we counted in the
> > stands.
> >
> >
> > at the end of the day #27 is a child, a kid
> > someone's kid, remember that
>
> They raised a piece of shit. He took a countless
> cheap shots, one that should have resulted in a
> ejection when the whistle had blown and the player
> was defenseless. Need no lectures from you, if
> this assessment of their child's character stings,
> they need to self reflect and have him get his
> behavior under control because his play does not
> belong on the football field.

I don't give lectures I give advice, get ur kids tougher, mentally and physically or you wouldn't be on a mb crying and whining. if your a coach coach them up if your a parent toughen your kids up, if their were no flags then its your opinion and it aint worth a crap, cuz games over and that team is on to next week and your on here whining.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Got it right ()
Date: November 14, 2015 10:43AM

Nufan has this right, better team won last night. It was a great game, both teams made stupid penalties, but Robinson scored when they needed to. I'm just saying #27 does not need to play the way he does. Don't try the moral equivalency game, cause it's not accurate. Get that kid under control before it costs you a game as it almost did last night.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly/Madison neutral observer ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:01AM

I went to the Chantilly/Madison game last night. In full disclosure, my son plays for one of the Conference 6 teams that didn't make the playoffs. We decided last night to go to one of the playoff games, maybe to get motivation for next season. We sat on the Chantilly side, but were really neutral in the game. We also ended up being joined by four of my son's teammates.

Here are my thoughts on the game. In the first half, it looked like Madison was going to run away with the game. Everything was working offensively, in the pass game, in the run game, and defensively. Madison was up 16-7 at halftime. Madison had two touchdowns and a safety.

To open up the second half, Chantilly got the ball, but they turned it over on their first possession. Madison moved it a bit, but Chantilly's defense stiffened, and Madison had to settle for a field goal. Score was 19-7. Chantilly drover for a TD after that score, to make it 19-14. In my opinion, the game turned on Madison's next drive. They took over with about 4 minutes left in the third quarter. They decided to pass. THey had three consecutive incompletions. In my opinion, from a game management standpoint, that was exactly the wrong thing to do. Madison's running game was still working, and that's what they should have done. I think they could have gotten a couple of first downs, and milked the clock before turning the ball over to Chantilly. After that, Chantilly's offense seemed to start working. A few of their scoring drives were extended when their receivers got open deep in the secondary. Madison blew a few coverages. As soon as Chantilly got the lead, you just knew that they were going to win.

I give Chantilly a lot of credit for not giving up and making some necessary halftime adjustments, but I think part of the reason for Madison losing was due to some questionable play calling on offense. All in all it was a good game, well-played on both sides for the most part, and it was a shame that someone had to lose.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:13AM

Number of teams in playoffs II Wrote:
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> The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won or
> were leading in the fourth....looks like 16 is not
> a bad number

I completely agree. Also #16 was tied(!) with #1 as late as the middle of the fourth quarter

2/15 went to form. Of course, #15 was Woodson and #2 was Lake Braddock, and let's face it, it's a complete fluke that Woodson is in the playoffs. They aren't really a playoff-calibre team.

3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a nice end to their season, and apparently played well last night, but talent-wise, they are no match for Westfield.

7/10 went to form, but I don't know much about how competitive that game was.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:15AM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> Number of teams in playoffs II Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won
> or
> > were leading in the fourth....looks like 16 is
> not
> > a bad number
>
> I completely agree. Also #16 was tied(!) with #1
> as late as the middle of the fourth quarter
>
> 2/15 went to form. Of course, #15 was Woodson and
> #2 was Lake Braddock, and let's face it, it's a
> complete fluke that Woodson is in the playoffs.
> They aren't really a playoff-calibre team.
>
> 3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a
> nice end to their season, and apparently played
> well last night, but talent-wise, they are no
> match for Westfield.
>
> 7/10 went to form, but I don't know much about how
> competitive that game was.


Correction to my post: Annandale and South County were tied at 14 as late as the middle of the THIRD quarter, not Fourth as I original posted. My mistake.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:31AM

Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left. They let Woodson march right down the field the first two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a pick in the redzond on the first and had a field goal blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had went for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be surprised if they are knocked out before the region final.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 14, 2015 11:55AM

GAU Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left. They
> let Woodson march right down the field the first
> two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a pick
> in the redzond on the first and had a field goal
> blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had went
> for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be
> surprised if they are knocked out before the
> region final.


But wasn't the final score 49-0? That's what the Post is reporting. They aren't providing any other details.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nova watcher1991 ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:10PM

I am sorry what was the score of the Lake Braddock game?

Sounds like if Woodson would have scored on the first 2 drives they would have won!

Oh my goodness, Lake Braddock is so vulnerable that someone ALMOST scored on them in the first 2 drives! If that happens the game must be over! It doesn't even matter what Lake Braddock does when they have the ball or the rest of the game.

I am so glad you shared that with everyone, Be aware Lake Braddock will be on upset alert, someone may score on them on the first drive of the game!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: football fan ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:14PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left.
> They
> > let Woodson march right down the field the
> first
> > two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a
> pick
> > in the redzond on the first and had a field
> goal
> > blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had
> went
> > for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be
> > surprised if they are knocked out before the
> > region final.
>
>
> But wasn't the final score 49-0? That's what the
> Post is reporting. They aren't providing any
> other details.

LB is very vulnerable, Woodson was able to move the ball more than a couple times and then stalled near red zone. Woodson couldn't tackle worth a crap a lot of LB things were off missed tackles. comparing them to what soco did and I could def see them possibly getting upset

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:47PM

NR football fan wrote;

3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a nice end to their season, and apparently played well last night, but talent-wise, they are no match for Westfield.

-------------------------------

Washington & Lee was overwhelmed last night, the score was 44-0 Westfield mid 4th quarter when not only the 2nd but 3rd string players went in. Westfield had freshman football players playing on both side of the ball in the final 6 minutes.

That would be why W&L scored anything because up to that point they were shut down by WF's defense. On a positive note for WF they actually developed a little running game last night, play calling didn't seem to be as predictable as it has been this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Gshrbf ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:48PM

nova watcher1991 Wrote:
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> I am sorry what was the score of the Lake Braddock
> game?
>
> Sounds like if Woodson would have scored on the
> first 2 drives they would have won!
>
> Oh my goodness, Lake Braddock is so vulnerable
> that someone ALMOST scored on them in the first 2
> drives! If that happens the game must be over! It
> doesn't even matter what Lake Braddock does when
> they have the ball or the rest of the game.
>
> I am so glad you shared that with everyone, Be
> aware Lake Braddock will be on upset alert,
> someone may score on them on the first drive of
> the game!

Hey faggot, I really don't know what happened all I heard was a bunch of nigger names and some hillbilly NASCAR driver but they won't make it through to the region final.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:54PM

nova watcher1991 Wrote:
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> I am sorry what was the score of the Lake Braddock
> game?
>
> Sounds like if Woodson would have scored on the
> first 2 drives they would have won!
>
> Oh my goodness, Lake Braddock is so vulnerable
> that someone ALMOST scored on them in the first 2
> drives! If that happens the game must be over! It
> doesn't even matter what Lake Braddock does when
> they have the ball or the rest of the game.
>
> I am so glad you shared that with everyone, Be
> aware Lake Braddock will be on upset alert,
> someone may score on them on the first drive of
> the game!
You sound like a bitter child. All I am saying is that based on how they pretty much bent over early to a 4-6 team half their size, a good team with size would have rammed it down their throat.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nova watcher ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:55PM

LB is no more vulnerable than any of the rest of the teams in the playoffs.
All of the teams have strengths and weaknesses.

SoCo Runs a high risk offense turnovers against good teams could hurt them
Roboinson Can not throw the ball one dimensional
Chantilly inconsistent on O and D
LB Defense plays well but inconsistent
West Pot Do they have enough to surprise SoCo
Westfield Strong D, not enough O
SL Lucky they got by Oakton
Battlefield Haven't seen them

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster Rooster ()
Date: November 14, 2015 12:58PM

Let me bail you out so the Real Westfield fans don't get piled on here like they Normally do by all the haters...it was 29 to 7 Westfield at half, yes W&L were overwhelmed...Westfield extended the lead to 44 to 7 then the 2nd, 3rd, fourth teams and a few freshmen did in fact play allowing W&L to get 2 late feel good scores in the 4th qtr...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 14, 2015 01:03PM

Also a huge upset in the South #8 Riverbend (4-6) beat #1 Colonial Forge (9-1)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: D5 ()
Date: November 14, 2015 01:04PM

Yes, Virginia, it would seem that Briar Woods is the best 3-8 team in the history of the sport.

They just rolled over and died.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: parentinmmmidd ()
Date: November 14, 2015 03:43PM

That south lakes win was great on so many levels due to the ugliness of the redistricting.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Could be two best d's ()
Date: November 15, 2015 07:13AM

NR football fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left.
> They
> > let Woodson march right down the field the
> first
> > two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a
> pick
> > in the redzond on the first and had a field
> goal
> > blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had
> went
> > for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be
> > surprised if they are knocked out before the
> > region final.
>
>
> But wasn't the final score 49-0? That's what the
> Post is reporting. They aren't providing any
> other details.

Seen most of them at least once. Agreed everyone flawed. Have to say even though they are both seriously flawed on offense, Westfield and Robinson's defense could get them to the finals. Robinson would be slight favorite in rematch.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What???? ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:02AM

NR football fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left.
> They
> > let Woodson march right down the field the
> first
> > two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a
> pick
> > in the redzond on the first and had a field
> goal
> > blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had
> went
> > for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be
> > surprised if they are knocked out before the
> > region final.
>
>
> But wasn't the final score 49-0? That's what the
> Post is reporting. They aren't providing any
> other details.

Seen most of them at least once. Agreed everyone flawed. Have to say even though they are both seriously flawed on offense, Westfield and Robinson's defense could get them to the finals. Robinson would be slight favorite in rematch.

------------------------------------------

How do you think Robinson would be favored in a rematch. They both have very good defenses, however WF's is a stronger. If I'm not mistaken they had the 3rd ranked D going into the post season in 6A. Offensively Robinson doesn't throw the ball because they can't. WF's problem all year has been their play calling on offense. Three different coaches calling plays based off of some unkown formula. This past Friday, the play calling was more balanced mainly due to one of those coaches being purposely left out of any opportunity to call anything. The pass set up the run the run set up the pass. WF doesn't have a premier RB as in the past but please make no mistake, WF has had the skill players in place on O all year to make plays. The two biggest obstacles up till this point has been having those kids not on the field and playcalling. That might actually be changing!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LBSS ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:14AM

Does anyone know how LBSS' Jet Ryan is doing?

As a spectator at the Woodson v LBSS game on Friday, it troubled me that it took so long to get an EMT on the field, never mind getting the ambulance moving. Is it normal for the press box people to have to announce the need for an EMT on the field?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:37AM

Playoff schedules. Wondering if they could work something out where you don't have to face a team within your district the first game. West Potomac, South county and Robinson will face them back to back. Last year Cville faced three PW county teams in a row before they played WF. Just a thought.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not the play calling ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:37AM

What???? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> NR football fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GAU Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Lake Braddock is vulnerable to any team left.
> > They
> > > let Woodson march right down the field the
> > first
> > > two drives of the game, but Woodson threw a
> > pick
> > > in the redzond on the first and had a field
> > goal
> > > blocked from the 6 on the second. If they had
> > went
> > > for the TD they could have led. I wouldn't be
> > > surprised if they are knocked out before the
> > > region final.
> >
> >
> > But wasn't the final score 49-0? That's what
> the
> > Post is reporting. They aren't providing any
> > other details.
>
> Seen most of them at least once. Agreed everyone
> flawed. Have to say even though they are both
> seriously flawed on offense, Westfield and
> Robinson's defense could get them to the finals.
> Robinson would be slight favorite in rematch.
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> How do you think Robinson would be favored in a
> rematch. They both have very good defenses,
> however WF's is a stronger. If I'm not mistaken
> they had the 3rd ranked D going into the post
> season in 6A. Offensively Robinson doesn't throw
> the ball because they can't. WF's problem all year
> has been their play calling on offense. Three
> different coaches calling plays based off of some
> unkown formula. This past Friday, the play calling
> was more balanced mainly due to one of those
> coaches being purposely left out of any
> opportunity to call anything. The pass set up the
> run the run set up the pass. WF doesn't have a
> premier RB as in the past but please make no
> mistake, WF has had the skill players in place on
> O all year to make plays. The two biggest
> obstacles up till this point has been having those
> kids not on the field and playcalling. That might
> actually be changing!

Robinson is a better offensive team. It's not the play calling it's the pathetic offensive line. They played a lousy opponent on Friday night. Robinson, Will get two scores Westfield one. Don't delude yourself off of one game. Your defense is great your offense is just horrible against real teams. I think you're good enough to make finals not win

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:38AM

I know chantilly won there game so it set up the game with Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Relax ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:24AM

Relax people you guys have to realize how difficult it is to not only beat a team twice but to also get kids pumped up for teams who they destroyed in the regular season. LB will be fine you can't judge them on how they looked in the first round (in a game they won 49-0. Fact is that most of these kids are playing their final football games ever so they're going to go all out balls to the wall against anyone they play in hopes to extend their seasons before they wind up on this board with us lol. Every game can't be a blowout 60-0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:46AM

6A
16 Annandale @ 1 South County (-25.0)
*South County won 35-21. Annandale had a very respectable season and went out with a great effort.

9 West Potomac @ 8 West Springfield (-3.0)
*West Potomac won 40-19. So much talk of West Springfield on here, what a disappointing season. Honestly the most inconsistent team that comes to mind, several great performances then head scratchers like the Woodson loss. West Po is very good and I was surprised when the Spartans crushed them in the regular season, so the result isn't all that surprising.

12 Centreville @ 5 Robinson (-7.5)
*Robinson won 24-21. Knew Centreville would make it closer.

13 Chantilly @ 4 Madison (-10.0)
*Chantilly won 27-19. Two years in a row, Chantilly gets a big postseason victory on the road. Told you middle of the pack Concorde is still pretty damn good.

14 Washington-Lee @ 3 Westfield (-14.0)
*Westfield won 44-20.

11 Oakton (-7.0) @ 6 South Lakes
*South Lakes won 35-28 on two late TDs.

10 Hayfield @ 7 Battlefield (-14.0)
*Battlefield won 36-21.

15 WT Woodson @ 2 Lake Braddock (-35.5)
*Lake Braddock won 49-0.

Local 5A
9 Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ 8 Wakefield
*Potomac Falls won 21-6.

12 Orange @ 5 Stone Bridge (-28.0)
*Stone Bridge won 49-13.

13 Briar Woods @ 4 Broad Run (-7.0)
*Broad Run won 44-17.

14 Marshall @ 3 Brooke Point (-30.0)
*Brooke Point won 36-0. Still a great season for Marshall.

15 Patrick Henry @ 2 Tuscarora (-17.0)
*Tuscarora won 42-7.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:54AM

Here are this week's quarterfinal predictions.

5A
Atlee @ Tuscarora (-21.0)

Potomac Falls @ Massaponax (-10.0)
*Pot Falls is a very dangerous 8 seed, don't sleep on them.

Stone Bridge @ Broad Run (-2.0)
*What a game and atmosphere this will be. SB took the regular season match up by 2 TDs.

6A
9 West Potomac @ 1 South County (-14.5)

13 Chantilly @ 5 Robinson (-7.0)
*Robinson is the better team, but I was at the regular season match up, it was a wet night with a lot of well placed dropped balls by Chantilly. Had they caught a few it would have been a very different ball game. Chantilly is definitely capable of getting this W but Robinson has the advantage on both lines and for that reason they need to be the odds favorite.

7 Battlefield @ 2 Lake Braddock (-13.0)
*These schools have played for state titles and have quite the matchup history in the old 4 region format. Battlefield is always well coached and strong, it won't be an easy one for Braddock but they are still the better team.

6 South Lakes @ 3 Westfield (-24.0)
*Westfield will cruise.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 15, 2015 12:34PM

nufan Wrote:
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> Playoff schedules. Wondering if they could work
> something out where you don't have to face a team
> within your district the first game. West Potomac,
> South county and Robinson will face them back to
> back. Last year Cville faced three PW county teams
> in a row before they played WF. Just a thought.


Not much you can do unless you unfairly lower a seed and give them a tougher match up. It will be even more common when they go to four regions and a team will have played the majority of their potential opponents.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 15, 2015 12:54PM

Tilly/Madison neutral observer Wrote:
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> I went to the Chantilly/Madison game last night.
> In full disclosure, my son plays for one of the
> Conference 6 teams that didn't make the playoffs.
> We decided last night to go to one of the playoff
> games, maybe to get motivation for next season.
> We sat on the Chantilly side, but were really
> neutral in the game. We also ended up being
> joined by four of my son's teammates.
>
> Here are my thoughts on the game. In the first
> half, it looked like Madison was going to run away
> with the game. Everything was working
> offensively, in the pass game, in the run game,
> and defensively. Madison was up 16-7 at halftime.
> Madison had two touchdowns and a safety.
>
> To open up the second half, Chantilly got the
> ball, but they turned it over on their first
> possession. Madison moved it a bit, but
> Chantilly's defense stiffened, and Madison had to
> settle for a field goal. Score was 19-7.
> Chantilly drover for a TD after that score, to
> make it 19-14. In my opinion, the game turned on
> Madison's next drive. They took over with about 4
> minutes left in the third quarter. They decided
> to pass. THey had three consecutive
> incompletions. In my opinion, from a game
> management standpoint, that was exactly the wrong
> thing to do. Madison's running game was still
> working, and that's what they should have done. I
> think they could have gotten a couple of first
> downs, and milked the clock before turning the
> ball over to Chantilly. After that, Chantilly's
> offense seemed to start working. A few of their
> scoring drives were extended when their receivers
> got open deep in the secondary. Madison blew a
> few coverages. As soon as Chantilly got the lead,
> you just knew that they were going to win.
>
> I give Chantilly a lot of credit for not giving up
> and making some necessary halftime adjustments,
> but I think part of the reason for Madison losing
> was due to some questionable play calling on
> offense. All in all it was a good game,
> well-played on both sides for the most part, and
> it was a shame that someone had to lose.

Thanks for comments on game - I heard Madison had some late turnovers in 4th Quarter? Either way a great turn-around for the Warhawks going from 1-9 to 9-1 in 2 years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Freddy ()
Date: November 15, 2015 04:17PM

Especially considering one of their nine losses was to TJ (TJ's last win).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Delusional ()
Date: November 15, 2015 06:50PM

Robinson is a better offensive team. It's not the play calling it's the pathetic offensive line. They played a lousy opponent on Friday night. Robinson, Will get two scores Westfield one. Don't delude yourself off of one game. Your defense is great your offense is just horrible against real teams. I think you're good enough to make finals not win

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How do you think Robinson is going to move the ball to score twice? They can only run it, WF's is one of the if not the best D's in 6A North. The first time they played Robinson was in the red zone twice I think, that's it. If the do play again and I doubt they will, you're delusional if you think Robinson would score twice let alone at all. But, I doubt Robinson will get past SOCO if they get that far, Chantilly wont be a pushover. I also doubt WF will get past Lake Braddock, just can't score enough to keep up and it's LB's time when it comes to a post season W against WF!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 15, 2015 07:34PM

Let's remember that Cville moved the ball on WF on the ground and scored twice. Almost had a third. Just saying.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan fan ()
Date: November 15, 2015 08:56PM

yea… And Centreville lost more games this season than Westfield in the last three combined...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly/Madison Neutral Observer ()
Date: November 15, 2015 08:56PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> >
> Thanks for comments on game - I heard Madison had
> some late turnovers in 4th Quarter? Either way a
> great turn-around for the Warhawks going from 1-9
> to 9-1 in 2 years.

That's correct. After that three and out, Chantilly drove for a FG, to make the score 19-17. Madison turned it over on their next possession, which lead to another FG, to make it 20-19, Chantilly. On Madison's next possession, I think their QB threw in interception to give Chantilly the ball, which lead to their TD. I know there were two Madison turnovers, but I may not be remembering all the details correctly.

I talked with my son the next morning, and he reminded me that Chantilly's QB deserved a lot of credit for their comeback.

It was a great turnaround for Madison. Hopefully my son's team can have a similar turnaround.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL/Oakton ()
Date: November 15, 2015 10:12PM

Tilly/Madison Neutral Observer Wrote:
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> RydellllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > Thanks for comments on game - I heard Madison
> had
> > some late turnovers in 4th Quarter? Either way
> a
> > great turn-around for the Warhawks going from
> 1-9
> > to 9-1 in 2 years.
>
> That's correct. After that three and out,
> Chantilly drove for a FG, to make the score 19-17.
> Madison turned it over on their next possession,
> which lead to another FG, to make it 20-19,
> Chantilly. On Madison's next possession, I think
> their QB threw in interception to give Chantilly
> the ball, which lead to their TD. I know there
> were two Madison turnovers, but I may not be
> remembering all the details correctly.
>
> I talked with my son the next morning, and he
> reminded me that Chantilly's QB deserved a lot of
> credit for their comeback.
>
> It was a great turnaround for Madison. Hopefully
> my son's team can have a similar turnaround.


Your commentary on the Chantilly vs Madison game reminded me of a similar occurrence in the South Lakes vs Oakton game. South Lakes drove for a touchdown to close trim the Oakton lead to 28-21 with about 6 minutes left. On Oakton's next possession they threw an incomplete pass on 1st down. Several of us watching on the SL side were wondering why they didn't run the ball to burn some clock. They ran the ball on second down for a minimal gain but again tried to pass on 3rd down which was intercepted by SL and returned to the Oakton 3. SL then punched it in to tie the game. I wouldn't say Oakton was running the ball at will all night on SL but they did have success running the ball in the 4th quarter with #3 in the Wildcat.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Wrong 1 ()
Date: November 16, 2015 08:19AM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> Number of teams in playoffs II Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won
> or
> > were leading in the fourth....looks like 16 is
> not
> > a bad number
>
> I completely agree. Also #16 was tied(!) with #1
> as late as the middle of the fourth quarter
>
> 2/15 went to form. Of course, #15 was Woodson and
> #2 was Lake Braddock, and let's face it, it's a
> complete fluke that Woodson is in the playoffs.
> They aren't really a playoff-calibre team.
>
> 3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a
> nice end to their season, and apparently played
> well last night, but talent-wise, they are no
> match for Westfield.
>
> 7/10 went to form, but I don't know much about how
> competitive that game was.

#16 was not tied late in the fourth quarter. It was 14-14 at the half, and 35-14 by the end of the third. Not sure where you got that info from!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: right 1 ()
Date: November 16, 2015 09:24AM

Wrong 1 even you were wrong it was neither "#16 was not tied late in the fourth quarter. It was 14-14 at the half, and 35-14 by the end of the third. Not sure where you got that info from!!"

No it was 7-7 at the half and SoCo scored 28 in the third qtr.


1 2 3 4 Total
A 7 0 7 7 21
SC 7 0 28 0 35

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: November 16, 2015 10:22AM

Wrong 1 Wrote:
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> NR football fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Number of teams in playoffs II Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won
> > or
> > > were leading in the fourth....looks like 16
> is
> > not
> > > a bad number
> >
> > I completely agree. Also #16 was tied(!) with
> #1
> > as late as the middle of the fourth quarter
> >
> > 2/15 went to form. Of course, #15 was Woodson
> and
> > #2 was Lake Braddock, and let's face it, it's a
> > complete fluke that Woodson is in the playoffs.
>
> > They aren't really a playoff-calibre team.
> >
> > 3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a
> > nice end to their season, and apparently played
> > well last night, but talent-wise, they are no
> > match for Westfield.
> >
> > 7/10 went to form, but I don't know much about
> how
> > competitive that game was.
>
> #16 was not tied late in the fourth quarter. It
> was 14-14 at the half, and 35-14 by the end of the
> third. Not sure where you got that info from!!


You need to read a bit more and not jump to conclusions. Immediately after I posted that, I corrected my post. Annandale and SC were tied in the 3rd quarter at one point, 14-14.

Let me help you with that:

NR football fan Wrote:
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> Number of teams in playoffs II Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The number 9 , 11, 12 and 13 seeds either won
> or
> > were leading in the fourth....looks like 16 is
> not
> > a bad number
>
> I completely agree. Also #16 was tied(!) with #1
> as late as the middle of the fourth quarter
>
> 2/15 went to form. Of course, #15 was Woodson and
> #2 was Lake Braddock, and let's face it, it's a
> complete fluke that Woodson is in the playoffs.
> They aren't really a playoff-calibre team.
>
> 3/14 went to form. Washington-Lee (#14) had a
> nice end to their season, and apparently played
> well last night, but talent-wise, they are no
> match for Westfield.
>
> 7/10 went to form, but I don't know much about how
> competitive that game was.


Correction to my post: Annandale and South County were tied at 14 as late as the middle of the THIRD quarter, not Fourth as I original posted. My mistake.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: November 16, 2015 10:41AM

Here are my predictions (6A only):

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Here are this week's quarterfinal predictions.
>
> 5A
> Atlee @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
>
> Potomac Falls @ Massaponax (-10.0)
> *Pot Falls is a very dangerous 8 seed, don't sleep
> on them.
>
> Stone Bridge @ Broad Run (-2.0)
> *What a game and atmosphere this will be. SB took
> the regular season match up by 2 TDs.
>
> 6A
> 9 West Potomac @ 1 South County (-14.5)

South County wins and covers. I think the margin will be in the 14-21 point range.
>
> 13 Chantilly @ 5 Robinson (-7.0)
> *Robinson is the better team, but I was at the
> regular season match up, it was a wet night with a
> lot of well placed dropped balls by Chantilly.
> Had they caught a few it would have been a very
> different ball game. Chantilly is definitely
> capable of getting this W but Robinson has the
> advantage on both lines and for that reason they
> need to be the odds favorite.

Robinson wins, but doesn't cover. But I agree with Steve that this is the best chance for an upset.
>
> 7 Battlefield @ 2 Lake Braddock (-13.0)
> *These schools have played for state titles and
> have quite the matchup history in the old 4 region
> format. Battlefield is always well coached and
> strong, it won't be an easy one for Braddock but
> they are still the better team.

Braddock wins and covers.
>
> 6 South Lakes @ 3 Westfield (-24.0)
> *Westfield will cruise.

Agree. Westfield wins and covers. I think they'll win by 28.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 16, 2015 10:57AM

6A
9 West Potomac @ 1 South County (-14.5)

Seeing what WP did in their rematch with WS gives me pause on this one. It's hard to beat someone twice. I think that this will certainly be closer than your spread and may even go the other way.


13 Chantilly @ 5 Robinson (-7.0)
*Robinson is the better team, but I was at the regular season match up, it was a wet night with a lot of well placed dropped balls by Chantilly. Had they caught a few it would have been a very different ball game. Chantilly is definitely capable of getting this W but Robinson has the advantage on both lines and for that reason they need to be the odds favorite.

I'll take Robinson but they won't cover that spread.


7 Battlefield @ 2 Lake Braddock (-13.0)
*These schools have played for state titles and have quite the matchup history in the old 4 region format. Battlefield is always well coached and strong, it won't be an easy one for Braddock but they are still the better team.

Braddock wins and covers


6 South Lakes @ 3 Westfield (-24.0)
*Westfield will cruise.

Westfield wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: school board plans for football? ()
Date: November 16, 2015 11:13AM

How will football work out with no freshman athletics? Is the school board out of it's mind?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 16, 2015 11:50AM

school board plans for football? Wrote:
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> How will football work out with no freshman
> athletics? Is the school board out of it's mind?


The school board has made no such recommendation; an independent board looking to cut costs did. But either way, why couldn't those numbers just be absorbed into the JV and Varsity teams? And I'm not sure but can't freshman still play FPYC?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Frankly ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:11PM

school board plans for football? Wrote:
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> How will football work out with no freshman
> athletics? Is the school board out of it's mind?


The school board has made no such recommendation; an independent board looking to cut costs did. But either way, why couldn't those numbers just be absorbed into the JV and Varsity teams? And I'm not sure but can't freshman still play FPYC?

_______________________________________________________________________________

Yes, freshman (so long as they are not huge) can play FPYC. Fact is, with the dwindling number of kids that are playing youth football in NOVA, and with what appears to be the shrinking rosters of the high school teams, cutting freshman football may not be so horrible.

That said, cutting athletic programs (which are a drop in the bucket compared to the overall FCPS budget) seems to be akin to putting a band aid on a broken leg. It won't accomplish much.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: a freshman coach ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:26PM

Frankly Wrote:
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> school board plans for football? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How will football work out with no freshman
> > athletics? Is the school board out of it's
> mind?
>
>
> The school board has made no such recommendation;
> an independent board looking to cut costs did. But
> either way, why couldn't those numbers just be
> absorbed into the JV and Varsity teams? And I'm
> not sure but can't freshman still play FPYC?
>
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________________
>
> Yes, freshman (so long as they are not huge) can
> play FPYC. Fact is, with the dwindling number of
> kids that are playing youth football in NOVA, and
> with what appears to be the shrinking rosters of
> the high school teams, cutting freshman football
> may not be so horrible.
>
> That said, cutting athletic programs (which are a
> drop in the bucket compared to the overall FCPS
> budget) seems to be akin to putting a band aid on
> a broken leg. It won't accomplish much.

You're out of your mind. Fairfax county high schools are already at a dissadvantage compared to the rest of the state with no middle schools sports. Take away freshman football and your varsity programs -- especially on the Offensive and defensive lines -- will suffer. We already get LOTS of bigger kids who've never been able to play until they high 9th grade because of their size. If they were to make that move, the Northern Region may not ever win another state title. In anything.

Rolling them into the JV/Varsity program isn't the answer either. There's a BIG jump in maturity and testosterone levels from 14 year olds to 17 or 18 year olds. The health and safety issues alone won't let it happen. And what would that really save? you'd need more buses for those bigger teams to travel.

There's no way they are going to do away with freshman sports.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What Difference Does it make ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:42PM

The Fairfax County Youth Football League, FCYFL, has made adjustments within the past year or two, to accommodate the big Boys. The 130# weight class at the entry age of 12, is now unlimited for these individuals weight. As well at the 155# Class their entry age 13 yr. old is now also unlimited as to weight. there are restrictions as for position relative to weight...i.e. no 250# 13 yr. olds carrying the Ball however their is now another option for these young men. #12 and #13 year olds are the majority of your 7th and 8th graders they have an outlet to play. The issue(s) relative to Roster size etc...has far deeper roots

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:56PM

a freshman coach Wrote:
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> Frankly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > school board plans for football? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How will football work out with no freshman
> > > athletics? Is the school board out of it's
> > mind?
> >
> >
> > The school board has made no such
> recommendation;
> > an independent board looking to cut costs did.
> But
> > either way, why couldn't those numbers just be
> > absorbed into the JV and Varsity teams? And I'm
> > not sure but can't freshman still play FPYC?
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
> > _____________________________
> >
> > Yes, freshman (so long as they are not huge)
> can
> > play FPYC. Fact is, with the dwindling number
> of
> > kids that are playing youth football in NOVA,
> and
> > with what appears to be the shrinking rosters
> of
> > the high school teams, cutting freshman
> football
> > may not be so horrible.
> >
> > That said, cutting athletic programs (which are
> a
> > drop in the bucket compared to the overall FCPS
> > budget) seems to be akin to putting a band aid
> on
> > a broken leg. It won't accomplish much.
>
> You're out of your mind. Fairfax county high
> schools are already at a dissadvantage compared to
> the rest of the state with no middle schools
> sports. Take away freshman football and your
> varsity programs -- especially on the Offensive
> and defensive lines -- will suffer. We already get
> LOTS of bigger kids who've never been able to play
> until they high 9th grade because of their size.
> If they were to make that move, the Northern
> Region may not ever win another state title. In
> anything.
>
> Rolling them into the JV/Varsity program isn't the
> answer either. There's a BIG jump in maturity and
> testosterone levels from 14 year olds to 17 or 18
> year olds. The health and safety issues alone
> won't let it happen. And what would that really
> save? you'd need more buses for those bigger teams
> to travel.
>
> There's no way they are going to do away with
> freshman sports.


Hyperbole much? I'm not convinced that VBA kids playing middle school football are any better off than Fairfax kids playing club football. There is virtually no change if freshman play JV - some sophmores and juniors just move up. VBA doesn't have freshman football, and I'm sure you wouldn't say they may never win a state championship as a result.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Frankly ()
Date: November 16, 2015 01:15PM

For the record, I seriously doubt that FCPS really cares about whether NR football teams are competitive against the SR teams. Outside of the high school football fanboy universe, nobody cares.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6EcVJ ()
Date: November 16, 2015 01:45PM

Frankly Wrote:
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> For the record, I seriously doubt that FCPS really
> cares about whether NR football teams are
> competitive against the SR teams. Outside of the
> high school football fanboy universe, nobody
> cares.

Yet here you are bothering to see, open, read and comment on a high school football thread. FANBOY!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: curiosity ()
Date: November 17, 2015 09:06AM

doesn anyone know why annandale stood behind south countys huddle after the game? it seemed odd..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfieldsideline ()
Date: November 17, 2015 09:35AM

Ihave bin to a couple of westfield games this year and I notised that they let little kids play unsupervised on the sideline. Against Washington Lee game their where at times 10 kids under 10 just running around. They was frequently playing across the restraining line and sometimes actually onto the field of play when the action was at the other end. This is dangerous and someone is going to get hurt. I don't undersand how VHSL officials could let this happen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Agreed ()
Date: November 17, 2015 09:55AM

Ihave bin to a couple of westfield games this year and I notised that they let little kids play unsupervised on the sideline. Against Washington Lee game their where at times 10 kids under 10 just running around. They was frequently playing across the restraining line and sometimes actually onto the field of play when the action was at the other end. This is dangerous and someone is going to get hurt. I don't undersand how VHSL officials could let this happen.

***********************************************************************
Agreed, most are coaches kids, a few friends of those kids. It's been like that all year, seems like the group is getting larger each week. If one of them doesn't get hurt then eventually a player will, just a matter of time.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Daycare closes at 6pm ()
Date: November 17, 2015 10:32AM

That's how Westfield Stays so competitive year after year...the sideline feeder program, those little kids are tough, I have seen more officials and players hurt this year, and those "little" kids are not even wearing uniforms, yet they pound on each other every game... maybe if your kids were not wussified they might get invited to play....? in any event a sideline Band is forming as well as Junior dance team..your kids should fit in some where!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dicks ()
Date: November 17, 2015 12:43PM

curiosity Wrote:
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> doesn anyone know why annandale stood behind south
> countys huddle after the game? it seemed odd..


Cause they're sore losers, and their coaches are a bunch of assholes!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: the VIEW ()
Date: November 17, 2015 01:37PM

Hey, if I'm trying to get a good look at someone's a**, I'm standing where..? Behind them...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: depends ()
Date: November 17, 2015 02:55PM

posted by: the VIEW

Hey, if I'm trying to get a good look at someone's a**, I'm standing where..? Behind them...
____________________________________________________________________________________


Well that all depends on the Ass.. if the ass looks good enough you can see it from the front

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: OppaLoopa ()
Date: November 17, 2015 03:44PM

It was odd; then they seem to have walked away. Did Annandale shake hands?????

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A hole Mike Scott ()
Date: November 17, 2015 03:58PM

Annadales coach Mike Scott is a complete ass hole... He should have been fired after he shook the band tower a couple years ago, what a hot head

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Annandalepapa ()
Date: November 17, 2015 04:18PM

We were heading out to avoid the traffic, but I think the team skipped the handshake line after South County went into their post-game knee-down. Not sure.......if its true we should apologize.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Goph ()
Date: November 17, 2015 06:32PM

When are the semi final 6A games supposed to be held? Are they over the Thanksgiving weekend?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 17, 2015 07:23PM

Goph Wrote:
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> When are the semi final 6A games supposed to be
> held? Are they over the Thanksgiving weekend?


Yes, I would assume that Friday though maybe Saturday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: many jerks ()
Date: November 17, 2015 09:29PM

LOTS of jerk coaches out there, in HS football and in other VHSL sports! TOO EAST to name the good ones and EASIER to name the dirt bags .... so what? Good coaches bring winning programs over time, bad ones lose.......

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dates ()
Date: November 18, 2015 08:10AM

Goph Wrote:
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> When are the semi final 6A games supposed to be
> held? Are they over the Thanksgiving weekend?


Yes, I would assume that Friday though maybe Saturday.

________________________________________________________

Both games will be on Saturday the 28th, usually at 1:00pm. Region final Saturday December the 5th, State Championship Saturday December the 12th.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Friday Flops ()
Date: November 19, 2015 09:36PM

The old board has really Quieted down now that the Madison, Centreville and Oakton big mouths are sitting out Friday Nights...coincidence?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Titans ()
Date: November 19, 2015 09:57PM

I agree 100% ?? Great teams and great games left this weekend but crickets on the site about actual football issues. Weather will not be an issue tomorrow night so play ball and may the best teams WIN!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WSucks ()
Date: November 19, 2015 11:32PM

Rolling road Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
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>
> > 8-1 Westfield
> > Liberty Conference 6: 8-1 Madison vs
> > 7-2 Hayfield
>
> West Springfield will beat LB decisively.




This is funny looking back at it 56-21 LB won

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 20, 2015 12:09AM

Really. Big mouths. It's what makes this boArd fun. Go have some pie you loser.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Maybe baby ()
Date: November 20, 2015 05:39AM

Maybe the boards are quiet because people realize that northern region football is not that great this year and all the teams remaining are sort of OK but not nearly as good as teams of years past so everybody's bored and moved onto other topics and activities.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: JUpdc ()
Date: November 20, 2015 06:57AM

Or maybe they are just tired of getting abused every time they make any comments on certain teams. Or more likely it's put up or shut up time and people are just waiting to see what happens.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I'm not so sure ()
Date: November 20, 2015 08:07AM

Maybe the boards are quiet because people realize that northern region football is not that great this year and all the teams remaining are sort of OK but not nearly as good as teams of years past so everybody's bored and moved onto other topics and activities

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Not so sure about that, there are still 3 pretty good 6A North teams playing tonight. I think when people talk about the region being down the past few years, at least in 6A, it's based on the Centreville teams from the previous two.

The past two seasons Centreville essentially had a dream team, arguably one of the best teams to have ever come out of this area. Please keep in mind I am NOT a Centreville fan or supporter however it's hard to argue that teams talent.

But if you look back before that there were very few "stacked" teams from the region, just a bunch of teams that had a couple star players. These teams, like most from this area, were well coached and played to their strengths.

Over that period the Northern Region teams still dominated in regard to state championships, 18 dating back to 1986. During that same period the Beach area teams won 6, Central Virginia team 5.

So don't get too caught up in the "region seems to be a little down this year" talk. The only difference in these past two is that Ocean Lakes has assembled a team similar to the Centreville team of 2013.

However, now that the recruiting issues of the beach area schools are under scrutiny there might be more balance returning to that area of the state in the upcoming years. But to think the North doesn't have talented teams or players currently compared to the past might be a bit inaccurate.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Final Four ()
Date: November 20, 2015 08:08AM

Any final four predictions heading into tonight's games?? Mine would be SC, Rob, LB, and WF. If that falls true, we are all in for some really solid football next weekend!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yep ()
Date: November 20, 2015 09:37AM

Any final four predictions heading into tonight's games?? Mine would be SC, Rob, LB, and WF. If that falls true, we are all in for some really solid football next weekend!!

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Yep, that would be what I'm thinking, truly the 4 tops teams in 6A North this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:08AM

I have been pondering the weekend games and I have to say I just don't see any upsets. Sure - they are possible but just pretty unlikely - Oakton pulled a few upsets at the end of 2012 season but they had a great athlete (Kyle Downer) and really gelled at the end. I don't feel like any of the underdogs out there with a game-changer like that.

Battlefield has had a really soft schedule and the last few years Prince William County teams have folded when going against the top teams in 6A North.

This is the round that SoCo has had trouble with but I find it hard to believe that West Potomac can last 4 quarters with the Stallions.

Chantilly just doesn't seem to have the size and strength to deal with a team like Robinson although they do have a great QB. I saw Chantilly vs Stone Bridge and Westfield and their defense was not stout enough.

South Lakes is also really undersized compared to Westfield and while I expect them to be able to hang with Westfield for a half or so in the end they will be too much.

Best game in the area will probably the Stone Bridge-Broad Run game. With SB QB Thompson back I'll take SB. Broad Run is no Briar Woods though - they know how to win so it will not be a cake-walk.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:25AM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> I have been pondering the weekend games and I have
> to say I just don't see any upsets. Sure - they
> are possible but just pretty unlikely - Oakton
> pulled a few upsets at the end of 2012 season but
> they had a great athlete (Kyle Downer) and really
> gelled at the end. I don't feel like any of the
> underdogs out there with a game-changer like that.
>
>
> Battlefield has had a really soft schedule and the
> last few years Prince William County teams have
> folded when going against the top teams in 6A
> North.
>
> This is the round that SoCo has had trouble with
> but I find it hard to believe that West Potomac
> can last 4 quarters with the Stallions.
>
> Chantilly just doesn't seem to have the size and
> strength to deal with a team like Robinson
> although they do have a great QB. I saw Chantilly
> vs Stone Bridge and Westfield and their defense
> was not stout enough.
>
> South Lakes is also really undersized compared to
> Westfield and while I expect them to be able to
> hang with Westfield for a half or so in the end
> they will be too much.
>
> Best game in the area will probably the Stone
> Bridge-Broad Run game. With SB QB Thompson back
> I'll take SB. Broad Run is no Briar Woods though
> - they know how to win so it will not be a
> cake-walk.

If Robinson wins tonight and SC wins tonight, do you think they have what it takes to beat SC next round?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: hThKM ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:38AM

The outcome of that game will depend more on SC's execution and less on what Robinson does. If Soco executes well, they will win. If Robinson wins, it's probably going to be due to something Soco didn't do well on their own - turnovers, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:38AM

Robinson Wrote:
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> If Robinson wins tonight and SC wins tonight, do
> you think they have what it takes to beat SC next
> round?

I don't think so. SC is not bad against the run and I think they can hold ROB in check enough. If ROB had a decent passing game I think they could put up some decent numbers against SC secondary. And although ROB defense is among the best SC will definitely score points. So unless it is a bad weather game and turns into a defensive struggle ala 0-3 vs Westfield and SC gets turnoveritis again I don't see it happening. Just my opinion - that's why they play the games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Agree 2 ()
Date: November 20, 2015 12:38PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Robinson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If Robinson wins tonight and SC wins tonight,
> do
> > you think they have what it takes to beat SC
> next
> > round?
>
> I don't think so. SC is not bad against the run
> and I think they can hold ROB in check enough. If
> ROB had a decent passing game I think they could
> put up some decent numbers against SC secondary.
> And although ROB defense is among the best SC will
> definitely score points. So unless it is a bad
> weather game and turns into a defensive struggle
> ala 0-3 vs Westfield and SC gets turnoveritis
> again I don't see it happening. Just my opinion -
> that's why they play the games.

I agree that SC would have to shoot theirselves in the foot not to advance to the NR Championship game.

What about the other side, seeing both WF and LB play, I think LB has the upper hand.

I would love to see a SC LB rematch for the NR Championship!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jut my opinion ()
Date: November 20, 2015 02:13PM

Just my opinion but if there were to be a Robinson vs. SOCO game it could be pretty interesting. Yes SOCO has a good run defense but I think Robinson has the best run game out of the remaining teams. Good sized OL and 3 quality RB's who are always fresh with that rotation.

If Robinson could grind it out on the ground that bodes well for their D, which next to Westfield, has the second best D of the remaining teams. SOCO is a very talented offense, the key is to keep them on the sideline which a team that has a great run game can do.

Who knows, it could also wind up being a blowout in favor of SOCO but that would be very surprising. As the previous poster said, that's why they play the game.

The LB vs. WF match up would also be interesting, LB is a very balanced team on O and has a good D. But I read the other day on Gameday that the starting D for WF had only given up 56 points all year. That's pretty impressive, too bad they don't have a consistent offense or they would an impressive team. You also have to think that if these teams play next week lady luck might also be in LB's side since WF has ended their season in the very same game the past 2 years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 63vLx ()
Date: November 20, 2015 02:22PM

Are we so sure that Battlefield doesn't have a chance tonight?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jut my opinion ()
Date: November 20, 2015 02:27PM

Are we so sure that Battlefield doesn't have a chance tonight?

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Good team but I would agree with previous poster, PW County teams were down a bit this year. LB is a very good team, probably a little too much firepower for Battlefield to handle.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All great points ()
Date: November 20, 2015 03:06PM

I like the fact the thread got back to sound, civil thoughts on Football.....Robinson should control the ball vs Chantilly tonight, but if Tilly gets one extra break, they could win it.....then SC Tilly game could be 58 to 48....a track meet.

Soco coming back vs LB was so big for them....many teams would have folded. This might be their year for the region. More mature...better D...and at home.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not my opinion ()
Date: November 20, 2015 04:19PM

WF has ended their season the first week of December the last 2 years...they always feast after Thanksgiving...and for the record, they have beaten LB in the post season the last 2 years once being down 16 to 0 and last year destroying them 41 to 0 at half...so not diminishing LB this year however your opinion doesn't mean s$$t since you don't even know the Facts... Back to the bar lush!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 20, 2015 04:35PM

Not my opinion Wrote:
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> WF has ended their season the first week of
> December the last 2 years...they always feast
> after Thanksgiving...and for the record, they have
> beaten LB in the post season the last 2 years once
> being down 16 to 0 and last year destroying them
> 41 to 0 at half...so not diminishing LB this year
> however your opinion doesn't mean s$$t since you
> don't even know the Facts... Back to the bar lush!

You must be drinking. I've seen a lot of Westfield football over the years and this season's offense is pretty anemic to be blunt. The worst part is there has been virtually no improvement - to my eye anyway - between Week 1 and Week 11. Their defense may bail them out but I would not be so confident of making it past the semi-finals. Coach Simmons has lost 8 games to only 4 different teams in the last 5 years - 2 of those losses were to Lake Braddock.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jut my opinion ()
Date: November 20, 2015 04:46PM

WF has ended their season the first week of December the last 2 years...they always feast after Thanksgiving...and for the record, they have beaten LB in the post season the last 2 years once being down 16 to 0 and last year destroying them 41 to 0 at half...so not diminishing LB this year however your opinion doesn't mean s$$t since you don't even know the Facts... Back to the bar lush!

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First, I mentioned in my post that LB had been beaten the past two seasons in next Saturday's game. Second, I've followed and been to every WF game over the past 9 seasons. I'm pretty well versed in their program, have had sons play in it.

I've also witnessed the ineptness of this years offense between lousy OL play, no consistent run game, and horrible play calling. I was merely pointing out that if WF had any kind of an O they would be the clear cut favorite in my book. However, as the SOCO game proved they cannot win if the game becomes a scoring match.

BTW, I'm totally sober, unlike you I'm being realistic at WF's chances next week if they win tonight. Maybe you should read the entire post before lashing out at people. Up until your comment it had been a pretty legitimate thread!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 20, 2015 09:54PM

Just finished watching an amazing end to the Chantilly - Robinson game.

Chantilly ties it at 24 with 29 seconds left, kickoff and Robinson takes it to the Rams 43 with 22 seconds left. First play, pass to the RB down the middle to the Charger 28. Second play, 28 Yard TD pass with 7 seconds left to win the game!

Backup RB lines up as the TE comes out to the left for the pass. CB runs to the inside and doesn't react soon enough to get back over and stop the TD pass.

Great game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: y4MFY ()
Date: November 20, 2015 09:57PM

Soco wins 42-9
LB wins 13-10
Robinson wins 31-24
Westfield up 24-13 last time I saw

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: XmjUK ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:09PM

next week

Robinson at South County
Westfield at Lake Braddock

Cosby at Thomas Dale
Ocean Lakes at Oscar Smith

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 20, 2015 10:22PM

Tuscarora won.
Potomac Falls lost.
Woodgrove won.
Stone Bridge 35 Broad Run 10

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 20, 2015 11:08PM

So I took in the Westfield-South Lakes game. SL was definitely not the easy win as in the past four seasons when Westfield outscored SL 204-33. A lot more players on the sidelines and they were well coached. Brought a large crowd to the game also.

Westfield's defense just kept sitting back on SL bubble screens and sideline passes and were content to keep the play in front of them but gave up a lot of yardage.

Scanlon ran one in just before the half after nice defensive stand and short punt gave Westfield the ball at the SL 23. So 7-0 at the half.

Westfield goes up 10-0 after another drive stalls and a short FG. After a WF punt pins SL on their own 1 yard line South Lakes delivers the first real punch of the game - WF geared up to run stop a safety but SL hits a sideline pass for a 99 yard TD and monster momentum shift. SL misses XP 10-6. Westfield punts and SL keeps momentum with a nice drive for a TD going up 13-10.

WF then makes a counter-punch returning the KO for a TD and retaking lead 17-13. After watching a dozen or more predictable sideline completions throughout the game WF LB #1 finally decides to actually step up and picks SL pass inside SL 30. WF punches it in 24-13 final score.

Say what you want WF OL had a solid game. WF QB had plenty of time to throw but did not have a good game and stepped into the pressure/rush resulting in a number of big loss sacks. Held the ball way too long, missed a couple wide open receivers. And WF WR's did not make a play all night long. Many opportunities to make a play /make a big catch. Did not get it done. Why #82 is not the main target I don't know. He is always open and always makes the catches. Running game was solid. #24 plenty adequate - probably had 150 yards rushing. WF did break out perhaps the 10th RB of the season - they actually gave a series in the second half to a freshman RB.

In sum, WF played well enough to win... but LB has to be considered a solid favorite to win next Saturday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Painful ()
Date: November 20, 2015 11:17PM

Anyone who was at the Westfield vs. South Lakes game tonight think it was just a brutal game to watch as I did? It was 7-0 WF at the half, 13-10 SL early 4th.

Only by the grace of a higher power did WF turn it around in the 4th. Had a kick off return for a TD right after SL took the lead. Then WF intercepted the ball very next SL possession to set up another short score.

Thought SL actually was the better team in terms of how they played. They just looked like they wanted it more. God, WF's O line is atrocious, not sure why #66 plays at all, cannot block to save his life.

All year WF's OL has not been very good, it appears their going backward in terms of play. It's amazing that they can't either coach these kids up or find snyone else to do s better job.

Also, does #4 and #11 on WF understand the job of a WR is to catch the ball. These two should be nicknamed the butterfinger brothers, good grief.

Hope you enjoyed yourself tonight WF, cause it seems that next week will probably be the end of the road. Don't kid yourself, other than your defense your not very good!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: vMnke ()
Date: November 20, 2015 11:18PM

I didn't see the game, but it doesn't look like LB was exactly lighting it up tonight either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 20, 2015 11:53PM

Painful Wrote:
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> Anyone who was at the Westfield vs. South Lakes
> game tonight think it was just a brutal game to
> watch as I did?

I thought it was a pretty exciting game - when was the last time you ever saw WF come from behind to win? Two years ago vs LB maybe? You think other teams are just going to roll over and die?

> Thought SL actually was the better team in terms
> of how they played. They just looked like they
> wanted it more.

SL offense was more polished yes but they played small ball except for 1 big play. WF did look at times like they were not very interested in the game. Sometimes it takes being an underdog or playing vs a rival to fire them up.


> WF's O line is atrocious

Disagree - they were plenty adequate tonight. Not their fault no one was making any plays. #10 had time to throw on most plays. And the running game was not ineffective.

> Also, does #4 and #11 on WF understand the job of
> a WR is to catch the ball.

They did not make any plays.

> Hope you enjoyed yourself tonight WF, cause it
> seems that next week will probably be the end of
> the road.

Probably.

WF needs more plays in their arsenal. No mis-direction, no counter plays - every single play all game long goes exactly where you think it's gonna go. Defense is never guessing. Special teams had an excellent night other than the roughing the punter.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL fan ()
Date: November 21, 2015 06:00AM

Brutal? No. It was a good game to watch. I thought South Lakes outplayed them a good portion of the game and gave it away with the mistakes they made. Too many turnovers and dropped balls for South Lakes did them in. Too bad, they had a great season and looked like it could have continued.

I hadn't seen Westfield this year. Hats off to their players and coaches for doing what SL has done all year in the types of games, keep fighting and finding a way to win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Young Lion ()
Date: November 21, 2015 07:41AM

South Lakes should be commended on a job well done, what a difference a year or two make(s), along with attitude and Coaching. SL had many 2 way athletes that just ran out of Gas towards the end...#56 Justin May (an undersized kid) played like an All American #76 brought it also...Great year for SL..you should be proud each and every one of you.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 21, 2015 08:50AM

5A
Atlee @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
*Tuscarora won 42-27

Potomac Falls @ Massaponax (-10.0)
*Massaponax won 28-7

Stone Bridge @ Broad Run (-2.0)
*Stone Bridge won 35-10 for Ashburn supremacy again.

6A
9 West Potomac @ 1 South County (-14.5)
*South County won 42-9; Stallions jump back with a dominating performance.

13 Chantilly @ 5 Robinson (-7.0)
*Robinson won 31-24. Chantilly had every chance in the world to win this, but getting inside the 10 2 times and walking away with 0 points on 2 missed FGs did them in. They moved the ball throughout the night and had the lead for most of it, a terrific 65 yard 2 minute drive led by Tamarrow to tie the game with 27 seconds left looked like it would force OT. Despite that, Robinson went 60+ yards in the 27 seconds on two passes for the game winning TD. Robinson avoided the upset and surprisingly passed the ball quite a bit more than I had seen them do it before.

7 Battlefield @ 2 Lake Braddock (-13.0)
*Lake Braddock won 13-10. Sets up a very intriguing semi against Westfield next week.

6 South Lakes @ 3 Westfield (-24.0)
*Westfield won 24-13. Definitely didn’t cruise like I expected. Kudos to South Lakes for a fantastic season. A lot of wonderful coaching jobs this year, but Coach Taylor has my vote for coach of the year in 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nova Fan ()
Date: November 21, 2015 12:05PM

Westfield should have crushed SL. Everytime I saw them come off the field they had a big screen set up and was able to make adjustments with the entire offense and defense. Must be nice to coach at a school with practically zero two-way players.
South Lakes threw the game away. Gave Westfield a short field after an abismal punt with 30 seconds to go in the half and #10 scrambled for the first TD. Westfield then picks the ball off the first drive of the second half on the SL 20 yd line and has to settle for a field goal. Scores on a kick return which I saw at least 4 holding penalties but a great return by #27. And then Westfield picks the ball off after an unexplainable missed block on a quick screen at the SL #15 and it takes them like 8 plays to score from there. All short fields they were not able to drive the ball and score one time. Very predictable play calling and Everytime they tried to take a shot the SL secondary was right there to knock the ball away. SL offense had at least 4 drops in the first half. One drop on a post that would have been a touchdown. And too many personal fouls and holdings that ruined drives. Kick return was the difference.
So the question is what is Westfield do on offense? I mean seriously. Look like Tarzan play like Jane. Does not take good coaching to win with the kids they have in the regular season. It was painful to watch their offense. #10 can't throw anything but a deep pass and even those hold up in the air too long I'm just confused. That all being said they made plays and SL didn't. That usually happens by the 4th quarter when you have a bunch of 1 way players. SL looked tired to me in the 4th quarter. #79 never comes off the field at 6'5 315 and was impressive to watch. Hats off to SL defense they played inspired ball. Good luck to Westfield and remaining teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: UVA ()
Date: November 21, 2015 12:16PM

I hate when people say Westfield doesn't have that many athletes. What? All over the field. The coaches need to do a better job of getting them in the right situations to make plays. South lakes looked really well coached and I was very impressed on both offense and defensively as well.
Westfield made no adjustments offensively it was almost like they had no respect for SL and just thought they were going to run it up their throat and didn't. The only run play that worked was motioning away and running outside zone to the boundary. When SL adjusted to that Westfield looked awful on offense. #10 is just not a good QB has no business playing QB. The designed QB counteres and draws need to go. Yes he scrambled one in but there was literally no one from SL on that side of the field. Put him back to receiver. Northern region football on down. Not what it used to be.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 21, 2015 02:36PM

Think there may be a bit too much navel gazing? Who really cares HOW Westfield won? Never ceases to amaze me how some Westfield fans complain about every game not being a blowout. #79 for South Lakes played an awesome game. #17 for South Lakes should have been ejected from the game after that personal foul.

Anyone know why #15 was playing last night? #23 and #14 have been playing in front of him all year. Don't mean to pick on him but he had the coverage on both SL TD's and I really have not seen him on the field before except in mop-up duty.

And there was no holding on the KO return.
https://vimeo.com/146470779
1:10
Nada - clean return.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Poor quality ()
Date: November 21, 2015 03:10PM

NR really down this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL Dad ()
Date: November 21, 2015 04:05PM

westfielddadx2 Wrote:
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> Think there may be a bit too much navel gazing?
> Who really cares HOW Westfield won? Never ceases
> to amaze me how some Westfield fans complain about
> every game not being a blowout.

Agreed, by and large all the teams that make it to the second round are good enough to beat any other team on a given night and all the scores from other games except Soco/WaPo reflected that. Having seen some of the past WF teams that have trounced SL teams in past seasons it did appear that WF doesn't have the overall athleticism it's had in the past. That said, they didn't play spectacularly but they did play largely mistake free and turnover free ball which is usually enough to get it done. The PK/Punter for WF is outstanding.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: November 21, 2015 04:36PM

Agreed, by and large all the teams that make it to the second round are good enough to beat any other team on a given night and all the scores from other games except Soco/WaPo reflected that. Having seen some of the past WF teams that have trounced SL teams in past seasons it did appear that WF doesn't have the overall athleticism it's had in the past. That said, they didn't play spectacularly but they did play largely mistake free and turnover free ball which is usually enough to get it done. The PK/Punter for WF is outstanding.

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WF has some good players, play well as a team, for the most part are coached well too. Their best player is their D1 LB who is out for the season, Navy commit. The K/P/PK might be FCS caliber if he can get his accuracy on FG's under control. The QB is a D1 basketball player, DE is a D1 wrestler, the rest are just good athletes, nothing exceptional. They'll need to play pretty much mistake free next week to beat LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog observer ()
Date: November 21, 2015 05:50PM

I believe the frustration with the Westfield faithful stems from them not having a running game, and a subpar O-line, longing for days of old, they realize the region would be theirs if only they had a Running game...yes the last 2 games they have dusted off their 2 tight-end, fullback formation and have had o.k. Success..too little too late...however luck has been on their side and they continue to win ugly...so anything is possible.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Prediction ()
Date: November 21, 2015 10:19PM

Westfield v Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Tittans ()
Date: November 21, 2015 10:29PM

I am going with a 45% chance that happens.
Check back at the post:

"The one team the LB QB does NOT want to see is the Westfield Bulldogs defense."
Not an exact quotei used but it is the TRUTH!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Doug spit ()
Date: November 21, 2015 11:43PM

Maybe Westfield wins this time 2 to 0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Maybe just me ()
Date: November 22, 2015 09:26AM

Maybe just me but isnt Northern region football down this year a lot

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tCu9t ()
Date: November 22, 2015 09:42AM

>>>>>>>>>>Maybe just me but isnt Northern region football down this year a lot


I think the NR has 4 pretty great teams this year, plus a handful of very strong teams below them.

The folks that feel it's down are the Concorde guys that are lamenting Centreville and Westfield not being the #1 and 2 seeds.

They aren't willing to give LB and SC props for their strength. They see them as not belonging regardless of what they do, and if WF and CV are remotely beatable, then the whole region is down.

Consider this -- if Westfield and Centreville were #1 and 2, with Rob, Chantilly, Oakton being middle of the pack, these people would be saying that the region is as strong as ever... because "everybody knows" that a 6-4 concorde team should destroy a 9-1 Patriot team, right? That's the way it has been for a few years

Now, you have a strong WF team, and the top of the patriot is competitive with them, so they view it as the concorde being down, rather than the Patriot strengthening. If you take the traditionally strong Concorde teams - WF, Rob, CV - and then ADD stronger SC and LB, and others to a lesser extent, doesn't that make the region UP? Stronger?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:08AM

Quit whining.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 44pGd ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:11AM

Not whining, answering his question

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WnMJn ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:18AM

I'm just challenging the logic of the region being 'down'. You have 1 team that's clearly worse (CVille), and several teams that are better than they had been. Saying the region is down is basically saying that the top teams are there by accident - or by default since Centreville isn't as good.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: maybe just me ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:42AM

No I don't root for Centreville I root for another 6a non Concorde team, still think the region is down overall this year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: p6Vve ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:52AM

I see Cville as the only team that's significantly down though

WF - good as usual
Rob - as good as usual or better
Chantilly - usual
Cville - down
Oakton - usual
Herndon - usual

SC - better than usual
LB - good as usual
WP - better than usual
WS - better but not consistent
Ann - better than usual, but record doesn't reflect it
WTW - usual
TC - down?
MV - usual

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: XtdWh ()
Date: November 22, 2015 10:54AM

I suppose I'd add that Battlefield and Patriot were a bit down - though Battlefield was still good, just not AS good

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 22, 2015 11:16AM

Yes. Cville is not as good as they have been. Same goes for others. But it's the same folks(except Cville) making noise. Robinson played two average teams this year in the playoffs and squeaked by both. Although is was the second go around with the teams. Let's see other playoff teams.... Madison was one and done, west Springfield was one and done, west po advanced to second round but both teams couldn't beat LB or SC, hayfield was one and done, south lakes improved but lost to WF. Patriot from PWC sucked. Battlefield played LB tough, but lost. See the trend. The top teams are almost the same except for Cville. Does that make the region down. No. I have seen all the top teams play and nobody has the wow factor. I think the top teams are not as good as the top teams the last few years. I think that folks look at that versus seeing the Madison, South lakes, west po, west Springfield etc all making steps forward. Waiting for other schools to step up and beat the top tier teams. Jmo

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ttjWx ()
Date: November 22, 2015 11:24AM

IMO, you look at the teams overall and steps forward... looking at playoff losses as an indicator is tough... EVERY playoff team loses their last game of the season except the one who wins states.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 22, 2015 12:24PM

Just pointing out facts. You need to beat the top teams. Playoffs are playoffs and anything can happen. Didn't say that playoff loses indicated anything than the top teams won. That is the trend as it should be. I will say this as to if the region is "DOWN " or not, the top teams wouldn't stand a chance against the top teams from the last few years. I think others teams are getting better thou.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 22, 2015 02:25PM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> WF has some good players, play well as a team, for
> the most part are coached well too. ..... the rest are just good athletes,
> nothing exceptional.

To be frank that pretty much sums up Westfield teams all 5 of Coach Simmons seasons. Every year they have 1 or 2 marginal D1 prospects - nothing more. But one of those kids is always a RB. Not so this year.

South Lakes was light years better team than just last year. I didn't they they would get past Oakton. They seemed to have a lot of underclassmen playing - Madison seniors. Will be interesting to see which team can keep it going next season.

Regarding 6A North - other than Centreville and Patriot - I don't really think that the individual teams in the region are "down." Perception might be that way since there aren't as many big name players/recruits in the area as the past couple of seasons. South County is building up to be a force though - that second round score against WP was a little bit eye-opening. If they win big against Robinson - which I think is a possibility - that might be an indication they are a team that could give Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith a good game.

You just never know - everyone had already crowned LC Bird 5A state champs and Hermitage just knocked off a team that had outscored their opponents 493-25.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 22, 2015 03:10PM

6A
4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)
*This past Friday Robinson showed me they have a passing attack I to go along with their strong line play on both sides of the ball. Robinson’s talent at the lines will keep this game close, but I think South County has a deeper and more athletic group overall.

3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock
*I have gone back and forth on this one so much. My head says Lake Braddock’s offense should have them favored, BUT defense wins championships, Westfield is in Lake Braddock’s head and I have to stick with my preseason pick to win the region. I just wish they had looked better against South Lakes to give me more confidence here.

The great thing though is these can go either way and regardless it will set the stage for a really fun final the following week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Big boy bill ()
Date: November 22, 2015 08:44PM

Next year Woodson will win states you herd it here first

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: November 23, 2015 07:15AM

Now that the season is just about over, it's time to look back. Anyone have thoughts on the following:

Most surprising teams (performing better than expected)? Choose up to five

Most disappointing teams? Choose up to five

Games that were the biggest upsets? Choose up to five

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 23, 2015 07:49AM

6A Most surprising teams.

1. South Lakes
2. Madison
3. Robinson
4. Annandale
5. WT Woodson

Most disappointing teams

1. Centreville
2. Chantilly
3. Hayfield
4. West Springfield
5. West Potomac

Biggest upsets

1. WT Woodson 35 West Springfield 28
2. James Madison 35 Stone Bridge 24
3. West Springfield 28 West Potomac 9
4. Oakton 28 Centreville 24
5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Official ()
Date: November 23, 2015 08:47AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> 6A
> 4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)
> *This past Friday Robinson showed me they have a
> passing attack I to go along with their strong
> line play on both sides of the ball. Robinson’s
> talent at the lines will keep this game close, but
> I think South County has a deeper and more
> athletic group overall.
>
> 3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock
> *I have gone back and forth on this one so much.
> My head says Lake Braddock’s offense should have
> them favored, BUT defense wins championships,
> Westfield is in Lake Braddock’s head and I have
> to stick with my preseason pick to win the region.
> I just wish they had looked better against South
> Lakes to give me more confidence here.
>
> The great thing though is these can go either way
> and regardless it will set the stage for a really
> fun final the following week.

Usually agree with you Steve, but not so much this week.

Robinson has had a great season but they can't hang with a strong balanced attack like Soco...Chantilly has the smallest o-line in the conf and Robinson gave up 400 yards to them. Tilly threw it all over the place on them. Robinson passing attack? QB completed one pass until the last drive. Soco will press WR and stack line...won't be close....SOCO by 15+.

WF D is good for sure, but not as dominant as folks say...again...a balanced attack from LB will likely yield 20 pts at least. WF on the road, with no real offensive system...I like LB by 8.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Must be voting with your heart ()
Date: November 23, 2015 09:06AM

Knighthawk Wrote:
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> 6A Most surprising teams.
>
> 1. South Lakes
> 2. Madison
> 3. Robinson
> 4. Annandale
> 5. WT Woodson
>
> Most disappointing teams
>
> 1. Centreville
> 2. Chantilly
> 3. Hayfield
> 4. West Springfield
> 5. West Potomac
>
> Biggest upsets
>
> 1. WT Woodson 35 West Springfield 28
> 2. James Madison 35 Stone Bridge 24
> 3. West Springfield 28 West Potomac 9
> 4. Oakton 28 Centreville 24
> 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0


Hard to argue with those top 3 most surprising.....very impressive. But the Disappointments and upsets are not too well flushed out...

A 13 seed over a 4 seed has to be in the top 3 upsets. Chantilly over Madison. And your second most disappointing team beating two of your most surprising teams, both on the road. And almost beat a third in Robinson last week. Oakton, a 5 win team beating a 4 win team (at home) is hardly a big upset...especially if C'ville is disappointing. Woodson beat one team with a winning record, and you have that team as disappointing. And got blownout by 50 pts three times. Won 4 games...3 of them over teams with a total of 5 wins. Two programs that struggle as much as they do in FFX and Herdon....one win over 2 win?...not a big upset. Herndon gave up 50 pts+ in three games and lost 7 in a row.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I don't know about that ()
Date: November 23, 2015 09:20AM

>WF D is good for sure, but not as dominant as folks say...again...a balanced >attack from LB will likely yield 20 pts at least. WF on the road, with no >real offensive system...I like LB by 8.

I don't know, WF's starting D has given up 72 points in 12 games this year, that's 6 points a game, that's pretty dominant.

If they put #17 at QB and #10 at WR on offense they'd be in good shape in my opinion.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 23, 2015 09:44AM

Must be voting with your heart Wrote:
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> Knighthawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 6A Most surprising teams.
> >
> > 1. South Lakes
> > 2. Madison
> > 3. Robinson
> > 4. Annandale
> > 5. WT Woodson
> >
> > Most disappointing teams
> >
> > 1. Centreville
> > 2. Chantilly
> > 3. Hayfield
> > 4. West Springfield
> > 5. West Potomac
> >
> > Biggest upsets
> >
> > 1. WT Woodson 35 West Springfield 28
> > 2. James Madison 35 Stone Bridge 24
> > 3. West Springfield 28 West Potomac 9
> > 4. Oakton 28 Centreville 24
> > 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0
>
>
> Hard to argue with those top 3 most
> surprising.....very impressive. But the
> Disappointments and upsets are not too well
> flushed out...
>
> A 13 seed over a 4 seed has to be in the top 3
> upsets. Chantilly over Madison. And your second
> most disappointing team beating two of your most
> surprising teams, both on the road. And almost
> beat a third in Robinson last week. Oakton, a 5
> win team beating a 4 win team (at home) is hardly
> a big upset...especially if C'ville is
> disappointing. Woodson beat one team with a
> winning record, and you have that team as
> disappointing. And got blownout by 50 pts three
> times. Won 4 games...3 of them over teams with a
> total of 5 wins. Two programs that struggle as
> much as they do in FFX and Herdon....one win over
> 2 win?...not a big upset. Herndon gave up 50 pts+
> in three games and lost 7 in a row.

Instead of knit picking my choices, post your own. None of this was based "on my heart." It was based on expectations of these teams coming into the season and how their seasons played out. I also didn't look at playoff games. Strictly regular season. You obviously are looking at the past two weeks. I'm not. Chantilly may have come to play in the playoffs, but their regular season was a disappointment and came in as a 13 seed because of it. Herndon is a Concorde District team so to have a 5A cellar dweller in Fairfax beat them is an upset, especially since that was their only win of the year.

Again, come up with your own list. The original post asked for 5 teams, so I gave them 5 teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: November 23, 2015 10:19AM

I'll both respond to this and post my own

Knighthawk Wrote:
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> 6A Most surprising teams.
>
> 1. South Lakes
> 2. Madison
> 3. Robinson
> 4. Annandale
> 5. WT Woodson

My list:

1. South Lakes
2. Marshall
3. Woodson
4. Madison
5. Washington-Lee

South Lakes has to be #1 on any list, as most predictions had them last(!) in Conference 6. I wouldn't put Madison as high as you did, because I expected them to be good this year. In fact, I predicted them to win Conference 6, when most were on the Hayfield bandwagon (some were also predicting Yorktown). I put W-L on this list because of how they turned their season around, as most had them in the bottom half of Conference 6, and they ended up finishing in the top half. Woodson makes the list because they made the playoffs, though that was on the strength of their win v. West Springfield, which springs them into the playoffs. This list doesn't have to be confined to 6A teams, and Marshall, with two consecutive winless seasons to be followed up with a playoff appearance has to qualify. I'm not sure why Annandale, who finished 16th seed made your list. That's about what I expected of them.
>
> Most disappointing teams
>
> 1. Centreville
> 2. Chantilly
> 3. Hayfield
> 4. West Springfield
> 5. West Potomac

My list:

1. Fairfax
2. Centreville
3. Hayfield
4. Yorktown
5. West Springfield

I don't know how Fairfax isn't at the top of the list of any team that is the most disappointing. A 1-9 record is about as bad as it gets. It's true that McLean was also 1-9, but that's about in line with expectations for them going in to this season. Expectations for this season for Fairfax were higher. To put into perspective exactly how disappointing that 1-9 record was, consider how their JV team did last year. After an 0-3 start, they rattled off four consecutive wins, which included 62-0 over McLean, 54-15 over Marshall, 13-6 over Stone Bridge (yes, Stone Bridge), and 34-0 over South Lakes. That's not to say that this streak of JV wins last year should have translated into a winning season for this year's varsity, but it does show that there is some talent there, which should have yielded more than a 1-9 record. Centreville deserves mention, as does Hayfield, the consensus pick for Conference 6. I'd put Yorktown on the list as they were picked to be second or third in Conference 6. I'll buy WS given how they were shocked by Woodson. Honorable (dishonorable?) mention might go to Langley. I'm not sure I see why West Po was disappointing.
>
> Biggest upsets
>
> 1. WT Woodson 35 West Springfield 28
> 2. James Madison 35 Stone Bridge 24
> 3. West Springfield 28 West Potomac 9
> 4. Oakton 28 Centreville 24
> 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0

Definitely agree with your #1. It's not even close. Hindsight would show that Madison over Stonebridge wasn't much of an upset, but at the time, it was. Not sure about WS over West Po, and I also would not consider Fairfax over Herndon a big upset (at least at the time the game was played). I'd put Oakton over Centreville on that list as you did. I would also include Washington-Lee's 23-20 win over Langley in OT on this list.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 23, 2015 11:45AM

Conference 6 fan Wrote:
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> I'll both respond to this and post my own
>
> Knighthawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 6A Most surprising teams.
> >
> > 1. South Lakes
> > 2. Madison
> > 3. Robinson
> > 4. Annandale
> > 5. WT Woodson
>
> My list:
>
> 1. South Lakes
> 2. Marshall
> 3. Woodson
> 4. Madison
> 5. Washington-Lee
>
> South Lakes has to be #1 on any list, as most
> predictions had them last(!) in Conference 6. I
> wouldn't put Madison as high as you did, because I
> expected them to be good this year. In fact, I
> predicted them to win Conference 6, when most were
> on the Hayfield bandwagon (some were also
> predicting Yorktown). I put W-L on this list
> because of how they turned their season around, as
> most had them in the bottom half of Conference 6,
> and they ended up finishing in the top half.
> Woodson makes the list because they made the
> playoffs, though that was on the strength of their
> win v. West Springfield, which springs them into
> the playoffs. This list doesn't have to be
> confined to 6A teams, and Marshall, with two
> consecutive winless seasons to be followed up with
> a playoff appearance has to qualify. I'm not sure
> why Annandale, who finished 16th seed made your
> list. That's about what I expected of them.
> >
> > Most disappointing teams
> >
> > 1. Centreville
> > 2. Chantilly
> > 3. Hayfield
> > 4. West Springfield
> > 5. West Potomac
>
> My list:
>
> 1. Fairfax
> 2. Centreville
> 3. Hayfield
> 4. Yorktown
> 5. West Springfield
>
> I don't know how Fairfax isn't at the top of the
> list of any team that is the most disappointing.
> A 1-9 record is about as bad as it gets. It's true
> that McLean was also 1-9, but that's about in line
> with expectations for them going in to this
> season. Expectations for this season for Fairfax
> were higher. To put into perspective exactly how
> disappointing that 1-9 record was, consider how
> their JV team did last year. After an 0-3 start,
> they rattled off four consecutive wins, which
> included 62-0 over McLean, 54-15 over Marshall,
> 13-6 over Stone Bridge (yes, Stone Bridge), and
> 34-0 over South Lakes. That's not to say that
> this streak of JV wins last year should have
> translated into a winning season for this year's
> varsity, but it does show that there is some
> talent there, which should have yielded more than
> a 1-9 record. Centreville deserves mention, as
> does Hayfield, the consensus pick for Conference
> 6. I'd put Yorktown on the list as they were
> picked to be second or third in Conference 6.
> I'll buy WS given how they were shocked by
> Woodson. Honorable (dishonorable?) mention might
> go to Langley. I'm not sure I see why West Po was
> disappointing.
> >
> > Biggest upsets
> >
> > 1. WT Woodson 35 West Springfield 28
> > 2. James Madison 35 Stone Bridge 24
> > 3. West Springfield 28 West Potomac 9
> > 4. Oakton 28 Centreville 24
> > 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0
>
> Definitely agree with your #1. It's not even
> close. Hindsight would show that Madison over
> Stonebridge wasn't much of an upset, but at the
> time, it was. Not sure about WS over West Po, and
> I also would not consider Fairfax over Herndon a
> big upset (at least at the time the game was
> played). I'd put Oakton over Centreville on that
> list as you did. I would also include
> Washington-Lee's 23-20 win over Langley in OT on
> this list.

I didn't inlcude 5A games or teams unless it was games played against 6A teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stinglesshornet ()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:05PM

Knighthawk Wrote:
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> 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0

Really? How could anyone beating Herndon be considered an upset?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 23, 2015 01:54PM

stinglesshornet Wrote:
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> Knighthawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0
>
> Really? How could anyone beating Herndon be
> considered an upset?

Because a 6A Concorde District Herndon team doesn't have any business losing to a 5A Fairfax team. Period.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stinglesshornet ()
Date: November 23, 2015 02:12PM

Knighthawk Wrote:
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> stinglesshornet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Knighthawk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0
> >
> > Really? How could anyone beating Herndon be
> > considered an upset?
>
> Because a 6A Concorde District Herndon team
> doesn't have any business losing to a 5A Fairfax
> team. Period.

That might be true in theory but it is Herndon we are talking about the Hornets haven't had a winning season in 8years. And Fairfax is 6A they got a bigger enrollment than Herndon.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: November 23, 2015 02:27PM

stinglesshornet Wrote:
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> Knighthawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > stinglesshornet Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Knighthawk Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > 5. Fairfax 22 Herndon 0
> > >
> > > Really? How could anyone beating Herndon be
> > > considered an upset?
> >
> > Because a 6A Concorde District Herndon team
> > doesn't have any business losing to a 5A
> Fairfax
> > team. Period.
>
> That might be true in theory but it is Herndon we
> are talking about the Hornets haven't had a
> winning season in 8years. And Fairfax is 6A they
> got a bigger enrollment than Herndon.

Hornet is correct. Last year, Liberty was a mixture of 5A and 6A teams, but this year's conference 6 is not. All teams in this year's Conference 6 -- Fairfax, Hayfield, Langley, Madison, McLean, South Lakes, Washington-Lee, Yorktown -- are all 6A. Stone Bridge, Marshall, and TJ, from the old Liberty, were all 5A, but no longer in that grouping.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Out of proportion ()
Date: November 23, 2015 10:55PM

Official Wrote:
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> steve k2* Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 6A
> > 4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)
> > *This past Friday Robinson showed me they have
> a
> > passing attack I to go along with their strong
> > line play on both sides of the ball.
> Robinson’s
> > talent at the lines will keep this game close,
> but
> > I think South County has a deeper and more
> > athletic group overall.
> >
> > 3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock
> > *I have gone back and forth on this one so much.
>
> > My head says Lake Braddock’s offense should
> have
> > them favored, BUT defense wins championships,
> > Westfield is in Lake Braddock’s head and I
> have
> > to stick with my preseason pick to win the
> region.
> > I just wish they had looked better against
> South
> > Lakes to give me more confidence here.
> >
> > The great thing though is these can go either
> way
> > and regardless it will set the stage for a
> really
> > fun final the following week.
>
> Usually agree with you Steve, but not so much this
> week.
>
> Robinson has had a great season but they can't
> hang with a strong balanced attack like
> Soco...Chantilly has the smallest o-line in the
> conf and Robinson gave up 400 yards to them. Tilly
> threw it all over the place on them. Robinson
> passing attack? QB completed one pass until the
> last drive. Soco will press WR and stack
> line...won't be close....SOCO by 15+.
>

I agree - Chantilly passed the ball on robinsons defense for almost 400 yards last Friday. Yet there's not much correlation between their size of the line and how many PASSING yards they had.. Considering there were 6 sacks and only 36 yards rushing. I also know tha their defense is capable of much better, as seen in the other games they've played. Robinsons defense allows almost no rushing yards and their only weakness is pass. South county has one or two strong targets in the pass game, yet if their defense can hold them off, robinsons offense will do its meticulous movement down the field and take 10 minutes of the clock for one drive.

South county is defenitly more talented and has a better attack, so I'm going to have to give south county the win by 7, but I wouldn't count out Robinson. When their offense and defense come to play, they are unstoppable. The tough style of football wears teams out and has proven to be a very effective method of beating teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football2 ()
Date: November 24, 2015 08:37AM

Out of proportion Wrote:
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> Official Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > steve k2* Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 6A
> > > 4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)
> > > *This past Friday Robinson showed me they
> have
> > a
> > > passing attack I to go along with their
> strong
> > > line play on both sides of the ball.
> > Robinson’s
> > > talent at the lines will keep this game
> close,
> > but
> > > I think South County has a deeper and more
> > > athletic group overall.
> > >
> > > 3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock
> > > *I have gone back and forth on this one so
> much.
> >
> > > My head says Lake Braddock’s offense should
> > have
> > > them favored, BUT defense wins championships,
> > > Westfield is in Lake Braddock’s head and I
> > have
> > > to stick with my preseason pick to win the
> > region.
> > > I just wish they had looked better against
> > South
> > > Lakes to give me more confidence here.
> > >
> > > The great thing though is these can go either
> > way
> > > and regardless it will set the stage for a
> > really
> > > fun final the following week.
> >
> > Usually agree with you Steve, but not so much
> this
> > week.
> >
> > Robinson has had a great season but they can't
> > hang with a strong balanced attack like
> > Soco...Chantilly has the smallest o-line in
> the
> > conf and Robinson gave up 400 yards to them.
> Tilly
> > threw it all over the place on them. Robinson
> > passing attack? QB completed one pass until the
> > last drive. Soco will press WR and stack
> > line...won't be close....SOCO by 15+.
> >
>
> I agree - Chantilly passed the ball on robinsons
> defense for almost 400 yards last Friday. Yet
> there's not much correlation between their size of
> the line and how many PASSING yards they had..
> Considering there were 6 sacks and only 36 yards
> rushing. I also know tha their defense is capable
> of much better, as seen in the other games they've
> played. Robinsons defense allows almost no rushing
> yards and their only weakness is pass. South
> county has one or two strong targets in the pass
> game, yet if their defense can hold them off,
> robinsons offense will do its meticulous movement
> down the field and take 10 minutes of the clock
> for one drive.
>
> South county is defenitly more talented and has a
> better attack, so I'm going to have to give south
> county the win by 7, but I wouldn't count out
> Robinson. When their offense and defense come to
> play, they are unstoppable. The tough style of
> football wears teams out and has proven to be a
> very effective method of beating teams.

Not sure if unstoppable is the word I would use for their offense. They are very predictable and their "passing game" is nonexistent!! They are tough, but they aren't super athletic and that will come back to haunt them against a quick and physical South County team.

Robinson, lost to some, somewhat higher powered offenses for the region in West Springfield and Braddock, but they haven't faced a offense and group with team speed like South County. South County's defense has gotten better throughout the year, and they aren't going to allow Robinson to keep the ball for 10 minutes at a time. Looking forward to a good game, but South County is too much for Robinson to handle in the end.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: See too much to agree ()
Date: November 24, 2015 08:46AM

Out of proportion Wrote:
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> Official Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > steve k2* Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 6A
> > > 4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)
> > > *This past Friday Robinson showed me they
> have
> > a
> > > passing attack I to go along with their
> strong
> > > line play on both sides of the ball.
> > Robinson’s
> > > talent at the lines will keep this game
> close,
> > but
> > > I think South County has a deeper and more
> > > athletic group overall.
> > >
> > > 3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock
> > > *I have gone back and forth on this one so
> much.
> >
> > > My head says Lake Braddock’s offense should
> > have
> > > them favored, BUT defense wins championships,
> > > Westfield is in Lake Braddock’s head and I
> > have
> > > to stick with my preseason pick to win the
> > region.
> > > I just wish they had looked better against
> > South
> > > Lakes to give me more confidence here.
> > >
> > > The great thing though is these can go either
> > way
> > > and regardless it will set the stage for a
> > really
> > > fun final the following week.
> >
> > Usually agree with you Steve, but not so much
> this
> > week.
> >
> > Robinson has had a great season but they can't
> > hang with a strong balanced attack like
> > Soco...Chantilly has the smallest o-line in
> the
> > conf and Robinson gave up 400 yards to them.
> Tilly
> > threw it all over the place on them. Robinson
> > passing attack? QB completed one pass until the
> > last drive. Soco will press WR and stack
> > line...won't be close....SOCO by 15+.
> >
>
> I agree - Chantilly passed the ball on robinsons
> defense for almost 400 yards last Friday. Yet
> there's not much correlation between their size of
> the line and how many PASSING yards they had..
> Considering there were 6 sacks and only 36 yards
> rushing. I also know tha their defense is capable
> of much better, as seen in the other games they've
> played. Robinsons defense allows almost no rushing
> yards and their only weakness is pass. South
> county has one or two strong targets in the pass
> game, yet if their defense can hold them off,
> robinsons offense will do its meticulous movement
> down the field and take 10 minutes of the clock
> for one drive.
>
> South county is defenitly more talented and has a
> better attack, so I'm going to have to give south
> county the win by 7, but I wouldn't count out
> Robinson. When their offense and defense come to
> play, they are unstoppable. The tough style of
> football wears teams out and has proven to be a
> very effective method of beating teams.


O-line size absolutely impacts passing. Ask anyone who has coached. That's one of the key reasons small teams run veer (Navy). But Tilly is gone, so let's focus on Robinson. They come to the ball very hard and are physical. But not big on either line.... Against teams that did one thing well, that might get it done. SC will run a bit, and an athletic QB will be able to get the ball to one of the best big bodied targets around. Robinson will have to roll the safety over to help just as they did against Chantilly. The second WR will have a field day just like Tilly's did. There is just too much film now on how they pressure. They can't stay in base defense and stop a very good offense.

SOCO threw for over 25 TDs this year....can't hide in this one.

Agree with you that If Robinson can keep the ball for long drives, they have a shot, but not if they don't.

If Tilly put up 24, SC will put up 35. You said 7pts...I will revisit my pick.....SOCO 35 - Rob 20..Let's see whose right.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: November 24, 2015 08:58AM

I've loved Steve K2's picks all year and obviously he knows a ton about football in the area. After seeing all of these teams play, however, I am going with the following picks:

Robinson @ South County (-21.0)
Westfield @ Lake Braddock (-10.0)

The offenses are going to shine a little brighter than the Robinson/Westfield defenses making these some high scoring games. As a Westfield fan, I'll be more than happy if I'm wrong on that pick!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not buying WF ()
Date: November 24, 2015 09:00AM

I was there last year when WF destroyed the spread LB offense. Different this year. LB is bigger than last year, better running attack...and will make fewer errors. WF offense is nothing like last year.....no real QB...and got worse at WR by moving best target to QB. No really good RB, and Clancy is not in the middle. And not as important...LB is at home.

WF QB will throw one pick and put it on the ground again..LB by 11.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not buying WF ()
Date: November 24, 2015 09:27AM

I was there last year when WF destroyed the spread LB offense. Different this year. LB is bigger than last year, better running attack...Balanced. WF offense is nothing like last year.....no real QB...and got worse at WR by moving best target to QB. No really good RB, and Clancy is not in the middle. And not as important...LB is at home.

WF QB will throw one pick and put it on the ground again..LB by 11.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Agreed ()
Date: November 24, 2015 10:15AM

>I was there last year when WF destroyed the spread LB offense. Different this year. LB is bigger than last year, better running attack...Balanced. WF offense is nothing like last year.....no real QB...and got worse at WR by moving best target to QB. No really good RB, and Clancy is not in the middle. And not as important...LB is at home.

>WF QB will throw one pick and put it on the ground again..LB by 11.

I would agree, not sure if 11 is what LB will win by but I think they definitely will win. WF hurt themselves offensively by having their best WR at QB as you stated. They really have no running game, #24 is good against weak defenses but absolutely disappears when WF plays a good defensive team which LB has.

It's also supposed to rain on Saturday, not really conducive to passing so the team that runs the ball will win. Advantage LB, even though WF has a strong D their best defensive player is Clancy, he will be sorely missed. Centreville and Robinson were able to gain yards on the ground against WF without #41 in the middle making plays. LB has a distinct advantage and probably will pound away.

LB has been so focused on their run game since this very game last year where WF absolutely destroyed them. Poythress made it a priority in the offseason to make LB's running game strong for the post season run. He learned that relying on a passing attack as your primary offense come playoffs is not the answer. Unfortunately WF might find this out come Saturday since that's what they've evolved into.

It's almost like both teams have switched places from a year ago if that makes any sense.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 24, 2015 10:42AM

4 Robinson @ 1 South County (-7.0)

I think in the end South County will win by more than 7. I'd think more in the 14-17 point range.

3 Westfield (-3.0) @ 2 Lake Braddock

I can't agree with making Westfield a favorite. I'd think Lake Braddock could win this in the 10-14 point range.

That being said - it really depends on which teams make the fewest mistakes and can bring the intensity for all 4 quarters. I wouldn't be out-right shocked if ROB or WFD ended up with a win but think it is unlikely.

Regarding Westfield's offensive attack - they came into the season expecting a really talented RB to be available to them. Remember last year against South Lakes? #22 had 94 yards on 4 carries (2 40+ TDs) and a 96 yard KO return. Disappeared due to issues and then again this year.

I still think it's a coin toss on #10 at QB. He's done OK. Does not really throw a lot of picks - WFD has a stable of tall and experienced WRs already. If they can step up and have a big game against LB it could be a lot different than the South Lakes game. Not taking anything away from SL defense - they had great coverage but the opportunities to fight through and make catches were there.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Magic 8 Ball ()
Date: November 24, 2015 11:02AM

Hard to prepare for what you have not seen all year...maybe this comes down to Coaching and someone finally proves they have a SET!

Just a thought!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Region Semis ()
Date: November 24, 2015 11:12AM

Lots of coaches who have been around the region a while in this group. Does any team have a coaching advantage or disadvantage? These games could very easily come down to coaching decisions and adjustments in the second half.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: viziosaleman ()
Date: November 24, 2015 11:19AM

Nova Fan Wrote:
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> Everytime I saw
> them come off the field they had a big screen set
> up and was able to make adjustments with the
> entire offense and defense. Must be nice to coach
> at a school with practically zero two-way players.

That is a new development I have noticed this season. Westfield is not the only team utilizing a sideline big screen. I have seen this with other teams as well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Couldn't agree more ()
Date: November 24, 2015 11:24AM

^^^^that comment right there about sums it up.

At this point in the season the teams that are still playing have gotten there largely through in game adjustments. There's probably not a whole lot left in the playbook that the other guy hasn't seen already on film, save a trick play here or there. Look for these last few games to come down to whose got the better coaching staff and who can the adjustment on the fly to win.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Chiropractor ()
Date: November 24, 2015 11:30AM

or the comment, "Must be Nice to Coach at a school with practically zero two-way Players"... WF Has a lot of Kids that Could/Should Go Both ways...Hmmm imagine WF dropping that Lousy Zone Coverage and pressing another teams WR's with their own 6'-5", 6-4" and 6-2" WR's... all those kids have played multiple positions throughout HS and Youth there goes LB's Passing Game and brings 3-4 tacklers closer to the Line of Scrimmage to slow down #9... I mean if you actually wanted to win the Game that is!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 24, 2015 01:39PM

>or the comment, "Must be Nice to Coach at a school with practically zero two-way Players"... WF Has a lot of Kids that Could/Should Go Both ways...Hmmm imagine WF dropping that Lousy Zone Coverage and pressing another teams WR's with their own 6'-5", 6-4" and 6-2" WR's... all those kids have played multiple positions throughout HS and Youth there goes LB's Passing Game and brings 3-4 tacklers closer to the Line of Scrimmage to slow down #9... I mean if you actually wanted to win the Game that is!

Only problem with that is what happens when they get injured. WF had Clancy playing TE/FB on offense during suspended players absence. That got him a torn ACL and a quick exit to the season.

They've got enough kids, just sometimes not always the best ones starting or playing the position best suited for them or the team. For example, last Friday against SL, one of the DB's who played/started gave up 2 TD's. He hadn't started since the first game of the season, got suspended then hurt. Why start him in place of the guy who'd been playing well?

Saturday will be the true test for WF's coaching staff, offensively they need a game plan to generate points. The offense has been a major weakness for this team all season.

Their D coordinator usually does a pretty good job coming up with packages for the playoffs rarely if ever used during the regular season. Look what he did against Edwards and LB last year, blitzed him almost every down in the playoffs after barely doing it all season.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 24, 2015 02:25PM

One thing that everyone is basing their opinion on is the earlier games that were played, all teams get better down the line or they get decimated by injuries which West Springfield did and others. I've watched all the teams in the area and the team that is on the rise is Robinson, they have gotten better each week. The coaching in the Concord division is absolutely incredible and they always get their teams playing better down the stretch, hence Cville, Chantilly, Oakton etc... I think SoCo should be the favorite, but I think LB and Westfields are losing steam.. If Robinson grounds and pounds, passes a little they could wear SoCo out. Robinson is vulnerable to the pass, but they have faced several teams that can pass, they bend, but don't break all that bad. Soco has not faced a physical team like Robinson. The LB game against Westfields will be a very even game, I will give the edge to WF.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: When keepin it real goes wrong ()
Date: November 24, 2015 02:33PM

So LB's single wing isn't a physical offense? Westfield's D isn't a physical defense? And LB's defense for that matter. C'mon man, let's keep it real here.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: keepinitrealer ()
Date: November 24, 2015 02:44PM

KeepitReal Wrote:
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> Soco has not faced a physical team like Robinson.

South County 26 - Westfield 19

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 24, 2015 02:45PM

When keepin it real goes wrong Wrote:
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> So LB's single wing isn't a physical offense?
> Westfield's D isn't a physical defense? And LB's
> defense for that matter. C'mon man, let's keep it
> real here.


Really getting logged in just to respond to this LOL. See Yah Saturday afternoon. If you read my post, several teams have gotten better some have faded out. It's all about how you're playing now, regular season is over. Just like in College and pro's, post season is everything.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 24, 2015 02:46PM

keepinitrealer Wrote:
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> KeepitReal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Soco has not faced a physical team like
> Robinson.
>
> South County 26 - Westfield 19


How many kids were suspended at that time for WF, quite a few if I remember correctly

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Still not keepin it real ()
Date: November 24, 2015 03:05PM

I'm ALWAYS logged in to see what you have to say, it's usually very insightful.....good luck with that play sheet Vossler

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: keepinitrealer ()
Date: November 24, 2015 03:15PM

Westfield handled Chantilly pretty easily - up 28-0 and if they had kept starters in it would have been worse. That was 3 weeks ago. Your telling me Chantilly was suddenly that much better of a team 2 weeks later against Robinson?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Yes ()
Date: November 24, 2015 08:33PM

keepinitrealer Wrote:
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> Westfield handled Chantilly pretty easily - up
> 28-0 and if they had kept starters in it would
> have been worse. That was 3 weeks ago. Your
> telling me Chantilly was suddenly that much better
> of a team 2 weeks later against Robinson?


Yes that's completely true. Teams tend to play with a compleltey different mentality in the playoffs especially when they are under dogs. Robinson beat Chantilly 24-14 in the middle of the season and beat Centreville 28-7 ONE Week before they only beat them 24-21. Playoffs are not the regular season: it comes down to who gets better, who coaches better, and what teams still want to play.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Reply . Quote ()
Date: November 24, 2015 09:46PM

Yes Wrote:
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> and what teams still want to play.

This.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robo wins ()
Date: November 25, 2015 02:28AM

I agree with previous poster SOCO hasn't played a team like robo physically they wil wear down and grow frustrated with long drives. There's a call for rain SAT and that works very well in Robo's favor 21-10 ROBO

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Defense 2 ()
Date: November 25, 2015 09:38AM

KeepitReal Wrote:
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> One thing that everyone is basing their opinion on
> is the earlier games that were played, all teams
> get better down the line or they get decimated by
> injuries which West Springfield did and others.
> I've watched all the teams in the area and the
> team that is on the rise is Robinson, they have
> gotten better each week. The coaching in the
> Concord division is absolutely incredible and they
> always get their teams playing better down the
> stretch, hence Cville, Chantilly, Oakton etc... I
> think SoCo should be the favorite, but I think LB
> and Westfields are losing steam.. If Robinson
> grounds and pounds, passes a little they could
> wear SoCo out. Robinson is vulnerable to the pass,
> but they have faced several teams that can pass,
> they bend, but don't break all that bad. Soco has
> not faced a physical team like Robinson. The LB
> game against Westfields will be a very even game,
> I will give the edge to WF.

Not sure what you mean by Soco hasn't faced a physical defense. Not only do they face a physical defense every day at practice, they've played Westfield, Annandale, and Braddock all pretty physical defenses. Also, scrimmaged Western Branch, one of the top defenses in the state all year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hudl Dont Lie ()
Date: November 25, 2015 10:16AM

Having watched the Rob-Tilly game on Hudl where were the long, clock consuming drives everyone is talking about from Robinson?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: November 25, 2015 10:34AM

Not sure what you mean by Soco hasn't faced a physical defense. Not only do they face a physical defense every day at practice, they've played Westfield, Annandale, and Braddock all pretty physical defenses. Also, scrimmaged Western Branch, one of the top defenses in the state all year.

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I think the OP was attempting to state that SOCO hadn't faced an all around physical team, offensively and defensively, as Robinson. However, like many have posted, they played LB who is pretty physical on both sides. While WF may not be as physical on the offensive side as some there isn't a D in the area I've seen that's as physical as they are.

I also don't agree with the original poster's claim that LB and WF are losing steam. They both played pretty decent opponents in the second round of the playoffs, that's why the close scores. However as all good teams do they both won because they were the better teams.

The bottom line is we have the 4 best teams in 6A North playing this weekend, don't think too many would disagree with that. Both home teams should be favored but it would be no surprise if either of the visiting teams pull off victories. All 4 have strengths and weaknesses but bottom line they are all very good football teams that are well coached.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Agree ()
Date: November 25, 2015 11:08AM

I completely agree. This region semi finals is going to be a great Saturday for football and lead to an even better one next week. In every possible situation, there is a rematch and revenge of some sort on the line

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: is it just me ()
Date: November 25, 2015 01:43PM

is it just me or is the NR down this year in terms of quality?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Get Lost ()
Date: November 25, 2015 01:57PM

you wouldn't know Quality if she sat on your Face...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 25, 2015 02:44PM

is it just me Wrote:
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> is it just me or is the NR down this year in terms
> of quality?

Can you be more specific? Some teams better some teams worse - but, no - overall I don't think the "quality" is down at all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I agree with that one ()
Date: November 25, 2015 05:00PM

Agree with the previous poster. Seems like the "top" teams are not nearly as good as the top teams in the NR in years past. Somewhat disappointing this year.
Signed, Long time NR observer - not a Concorde or Patriot supporter....

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Re: High School Football 2015 and drug scandal and south county high school
Posted by: Truf ()
Date: November 25, 2015 10:22PM

SOCO ain't going to win state because they might get disqualified for hidin a major drug dealin scandal in the south county high school. Rumor say teachers herd talking bout drugs possessions and use by students in south county high school this month, and investigations by police is coming because the principal is hiding it from the popo. When POPO go to SOCO they come up positive for weed and emphatamins. Bong deflate gate comin soon.

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Re: High School Football 2015 and drug scandal and south county high school
Posted by: Come on dude ()
Date: November 25, 2015 11:10PM

Truf Wrote:
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> SOCO ain't going to win state because they might
> get disqualified for hidin a major drug dealin
> scandal in the south county high school. Rumor say
> teachers herd talking bout drugs possessions and
> use by students in south county high school this
> month, and investigations by police is coming
> because the principal is hiding it from the popo.
> When POPO go to SOCO they come up positive for
> weed and emphatamins. Bong deflate gate comin
> soon.

And this has what to do with the football team? Stop reaching.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SC Pride ()
Date: November 26, 2015 01:40PM

Heard Robinson had a bunch of football alumni and ate turkey legs at practice today. SoCo just had better players show up to practice... SoCo by 20.
Happy Thanksgiving!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jealous? ()
Date: November 26, 2015 02:06PM

SC Pride Wrote:
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> Heard Robinson had a bunch of football alumni and
> ate turkey legs at practice today. SoCo just had
> better players show up to practice... SoCo by 20.
> Happy Thanksgiving!!


Sounds like someone's just upset they don't have a history of success that make alumni Come back and didn't get any turkey legs after practice was over. Robinsons beat teams with better talent all year long, It'll be fight, no way there is a blow out on either side.

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Re: High School Football 2015 and drug scandal and south county high school
Posted by: Truf ()
Date: November 26, 2015 02:10PM

Sounds like da rumors is true. Soco lit football going down down down.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Truf ()
Date: November 26, 2015 02:19PM

Soco pride winnin mix 0.5 grams of weed with 1 gram of premium turf inhaled by defense. Meth for desert at half time, we know what it do.

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Re: High School Football 2015 and drug scandal and south county high school
Posted by: Ilnana ()
Date: November 26, 2015 02:29PM

Sounds like da rumors is true. Soco drug lit football going down down down. Way up they feel blessed.
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fchfx ()
Date: November 27, 2015 10:14PM

Ocean lakes lost

Thomas dale vs. Oscar smith

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: D5 Loudoun Rules ()
Date: November 27, 2015 11:59PM

Tuscarora outscores North Stafford 63-49 and Stone Bridge knocks of Massaponex 50-49!

Scores would make the Big 12 proud!

Still, two big wins for teams that played a bunch ofFairfax 6A schools this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015 and drug scandal and south county high school
Posted by: Emporer ()
Date: November 28, 2015 08:37AM

I smoked alot too when I was young at South County prison but look how I turned out
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: update man ()
Date: November 28, 2015 02:04PM

Robinson up 10-0...2nd quarter

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: calling tom brady ()
Date: November 28, 2015 02:32PM

LB QB has already thrown 4 interceptions.......not even halftime yet!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Braddock SUX ()
Date: November 28, 2015 03:18PM

Lake Braddock laying an egg like usual. SOCO not looking particularly great either. Maybe rumors about the demise of the Concorde are a bit premature....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Eli Manning's Foreskin ()
Date: November 28, 2015 03:36PM

Westfield is crushing. Up 31-7 with less than 7 minutes to go. Not the game I expected but the Bulldog defense appears to be the real deal after all.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Braddock does suck ()
Date: November 28, 2015 03:37PM

Hey coach want to do something different besides passing up the deep middle over and over and over so Westfield can intercept over and over and over.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Braddock yuk ()
Date: November 28, 2015 04:21PM

Embarrassing performance Bruins. Maybe I should have just gone to the mall instead.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: as I said ()
Date: November 28, 2015 05:00PM

watched both 6a games on MVP gameday.....will say again, quality is down this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Football man ()
Date: November 28, 2015 05:07PM

Soco about to be 14-0 just watch out Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 28, 2015 05:11PM

Should be a great game. South county hs better bring more stands in. Seating for away teams suck. Thought Robinson might pull it out but play action doesn't work in the last minute. Qb takes back to back sacks on last two plays of the game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOCO is overrated ()
Date: November 28, 2015 05:13PM

If SOCO had that much trouble with Robinson they better watch out against Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: saw that ()
Date: November 28, 2015 05:23PM

#33 lake B, punching kids in the face, little Bitch is going to end up in jail like his Daddy...watch the film POS!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog nation ()
Date: November 28, 2015 06:05PM

Westfield taking states!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: November 28, 2015 07:09PM

Can't believe I'm saying this but Westfield will be representing the Northern Region in the State Final.

If Robinson's defense could hold the SoCo offense to two TDs, then I think Westfield is going to dominate the Stallions.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Stripes ()
Date: November 28, 2015 10:15PM

I understand a normal game week when their are 50 plus games being played across the Region that the Talent pool for referees is a little slim, however if the Vhsl is Going to Run the same Garbage out for a state qtr final or Semi final game, some one needs to be fired. Horrendous officiating Vhsl should be ashamed!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cv cv ()
Date: November 28, 2015 10:42PM

lol...same ol shit..............crying about the referees.
Some things never change.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jdbxh ()
Date: November 28, 2015 10:52PM

SOCO is overrated Wrote:
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> If SOCO had that much trouble with Robinson they
> better watch out against Westfield.


Ummmm.. didn't westfield only score 3 against robinson?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hdhdh ()
Date: November 28, 2015 11:33PM

Wow... just amazing... soco is just soo lucky and overrated that they lucked themselves to 13 straight wins. Unheard of! They even managed to win by accident against 7 teams that made the playoffs, a 9 win team with 'smothering o and d lines who will control the clock with their crushing run game', an 11 win team that has 5 million d1 players, and, oh yeah, a 12 win team lost to them too. Must be the worst 13-0 team in history! It's crazy how formidable all the other teams are that still end up losing the game.. surely nothing we can give soco any credit for..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Duh10 ()
Date: November 28, 2015 11:43PM

Trying to remember how many suspended starters wf was missing when they played soco.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bills ()
Date: November 29, 2015 09:21AM

Kind of like all the haters hating on a team that has made it to 5 consecutive NR finals, Soco deserves to be there just as Westfield does, as long as the NR brings home the trophy we all should be proud!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Where you all at? ()
Date: November 29, 2015 10:11AM

where are all the lake Braddock enthusiasts now? Once again the great Bruins choke when it matters, easy schedule in the regular season and led to LB being full of themselves and history repeats itself for the third time.... In a row. Lb overrated

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: sfvasdf ()
Date: November 29, 2015 01:02PM

LB was outcoached for certain. Did not even attempt to roll a safety over to help on the old WR. If he was WR all year, WF could have put up 40 every game. With a good QB, he is very tough to stop.

Horrible offense from LB.....short out, medium-in right in front of safety...wow.

Hats off to WF...well executed plan...very few mistakes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No respect ()
Date: November 29, 2015 01:41PM

It's a shame that Robinson gets no respect. They are a very good football team that lost to another very good team.

It was a very good game that really could of went either way. In the end SoCo did what they needed to to get the job done, Being a SoCo fan, I'm pleased they did.

Look out for Robo next year since they are a fairly young team that is very well coached.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 29, 2015 02:12PM

Was at the soco game and it proved to be very good one. Robinson had chances and the pick 6 by soco was the difference in the game. Good atmosphere

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fairly Young Team? ()
Date: November 29, 2015 06:52PM

Robinson is about as old a team as you see in High school these days!

They have about 3 or 4 underclassman who contribute...

JV sucked as well.

This is as close as they get until this year's freshman become seniors!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 29, 2015 07:32PM

Fairly Young Team? Wrote:
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> Robinson is about as old a team as you see in High
> school these days!
>
> They have about 3 or 4 underclassman who
> contribute...
>
> JV sucked as well.
>
> This is as close as they get until this year's
> freshman become seniors!

Last year's JV team was undefeated. They have the Sophmore secondary guys coming back. 33 is back, 22 will be a RB, 20 will be a RB and Sophmore 21 will be a RB. RT will be a senior. Several guys were rotating in. Staff is solid now and another year with Neff as D coordinator.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robo Dad ()
Date: November 29, 2015 07:45PM

Robinson started 11 seniors, 8 juniors, and 3 sophomores in the playoff game. They will return 6 starters on defense and 5 on offense. That's not an old man football team by any measure. It appears to me that they've got things moving in the right direction now after several years of average results. Kids love the staff and the program.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Robinson old? ()
Date: November 29, 2015 07:56PM

Robinson old, really? I don't think so - 2 all conference LBs (1 1st team #44 & 1 2nd team #51) plus an 1st team all conference OL #71 are all 3 Juniors. QB is coming back. In truth they are losing about 4 key players on both sides of the ball but have some good talent in the JR and soph classes that will fill those holes nicely.

So, anyone that says Robinson is old, doesn't have a clue...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: November 29, 2015 09:41PM

Well, Robinson hung in there and nearly pulled off the upset. SoCo defense gave up a lot of yardage - but almost all on the ground - not Westfield's forte.

Did not see Westfield putting in that performance - without question their most complete game of the season on both sides of the ball. #17 did a nice job at QB and #10 at WR was a dominant force - offensive coaching finally made some major changes that were sorely needed. Hat tip to coaches - they are usually too conservative to make a change like that.

Lake Braddock the only team I had not seen this year but I have to admit I was expecting a lot more from their offense from what I had heard all year. Their defense was not bad - they did keep Westfield from capitalizing on a lot of their great field position - it certainly could have been and probably should have been an even more lopsided score.

So off to the regional finals. Gotta like the way Westfield is coming into this game but SoCo will be ready for them. I haven't been doing very good on my predictions so I will pass for the moment. Westfield's defense has 10 interceptions in their first 3 playoff games and they are even harder to run on. So how will SoCo attack them and what would be your strategy? SoCo WR #9 had a monster game against Westfield in the regular season matchup. More of the same?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rocky Road ()
Date: November 29, 2015 10:06PM

Congratulations to both teams for representing the Northern Region...from what I have seen, this game is Even...smart play, limited turn overs and limited penalties win this Game. Soco's successes have come when they are able to extend the play and catch the defenses breaking discipline, #9 was an unknown commodity week 2, great numbers however he is no longer a surprise if Westfield does not press him with their best cover corner with safety help over top, they deserve the burn they will surely get. Count on Soco being as unorthodox as they have been all year, every kick should be treated as on-side/fake...no play is over until whistle blows I.e. Double passes, reverse pass, option...Westfield defense must stay disciplined, man-press #9, put a spy on QB and swarm the ball, Db's cannot break coverage until ball has crossed line of scrimmage..offensively max protect, stretch Soco defense with tall wide-out, find lanes and establish a running game, win special teams battle... If Westfield Coaches let their Athletes compete (play calling) they go South...if Soco wins the turn over/penalty battle they head south...Should be a Great game

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bigtine ()
Date: November 30, 2015 12:53AM

Has the all region teams come out yet? If so anyone know 1st/2nd/HM Lists for 6a north?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: smokeyN ()
Date: November 30, 2015 08:49AM

Any truth to Rumor, Cheech and Chong seen on Soco Campus this past weekend?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bad Buffet ()
Date: November 30, 2015 01:28PM

Where the Hell is Moran when you need him?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Tittans ()
Date: November 30, 2015 01:57PM

Robinson poster - I assume you have seen the entire All Conference 6A Teams, Or just the Robinson players?
It is very hard to find these All District and All Conference teams this year?? Any help would be great!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All Conference Teams ()
Date: November 30, 2015 02:20PM

Tilly poster - I have only seen the Robinson All Conference players, The Robinson players selected 1st, 2nd team & HM were posted on the Robinson Football Twitter page on 9 Nov.

https://twitter.com/ramsfball/status/663713896495230976

I've also tried to locate the entire list but have had no luck.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: This is great!! ()
Date: November 30, 2015 02:21PM

Hdhdh Wrote:
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> Wow... just amazing... soco is just soo lucky and
> overrated that they lucked themselves to 13
> straight wins. Unheard of! They even managed to
> win by accident against 7 teams that made the
> playoffs, a 9 win team with 'smothering o and d
> lines who will control the clock with their
> crushing run game', an 11 win team that has 5
> million d1 players, and, oh yeah, a 12 win team
> lost to them too. Must be the worst 13-0 team in
> history! It's crazy how formidable all the other
> teams are that still end up losing the game..
> surely nothing we can give soco any credit for..

Love this!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Soco weed ()
Date: November 30, 2015 05:35PM

Program out of control. Fights, drugs, ho's! Say the U baby. New principal not payin mind

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Fact Checker Part Deux ()
Date: November 30, 2015 05:56PM

> Robinson is about as old a team as you see in High
> school these days!
>
> They have about 3 or 4 underclassman who
> contribute...
>
> JV sucked as well.
>
> This is as close as they get until this year's
> freshman become seniors!

Last year's JV team was undefeated. They have the Sophmore secondary guys coming back. 33 is back, 22 will be a RB, 20 will be a RB and Sophmore 21 will be a RB. RT will be a senior. Several guys were rotating in. Staff is solid now and another year with Neff as D coordinator.


Robinson's JV team this year went 2-5-1 and lost by more than 20 points to Broad Run, Stone Bridge, and Centreville. Westfield shut them out. Going to be a tough year next year for that dirty ass program!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly ()
Date: November 30, 2015 09:31PM

Tilly all conference
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Tittans ()
Date: November 30, 2015 10:05PM

Thanks Guys! I have not seen anything from Westfield or a complete list. Why so secret every year with the complete list? VHSL? I think they want to post in final weekend program every year.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 30, 2015 10:42PM

Thanks Guys! I have not seen anything from Westfield or a complete list. Why so secret every year with the complete list? VHSL? I think they want to post in final weekend program every year.....

_____________________________________________________________________

Offense

Scanlon - All Purpose/1st Team
Greene - KR/1st Team
Cordova - OL/1st Team
Delaney - PK/1st Team
Cockrill - TE/1st Team
Yoshino - OL/2nd Team
Uffleman - OL/2nd Team
Scanlon - QB/2nd Team
Eckert - WR/2nd Team
Quitugua - OL/HM
Scanlon - Player of the Year


Defense

Caron - DB/1st Team
Huling - DB/1st Team
Aiello - DE/1st Team
Leo - DL/1st Team
Delaney - P/1st Team
Jewell - DE/2nd Team
Pickett - LB/2nd Team
Monticue - LB/2nd Team
Lutz - DL/2nd Team
Martin - DL/2nd Team
Clancy - LB/HM
Aiello - Player of the Year

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Duh10 ()
Date: December 01, 2015 12:28AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Thanks Guys! I have not seen anything from
> Westfield or a complete list. Why so secret every
> year with the complete list? VHSL? I think they
> want to post in final weekend program every
> year.....
>
> __________________________________________________
> ___________________
>
> Offense
>
> Scanlon - All Purpose/1st Team
> Greene - KR/1st Team
> Cordova - OL/1st Team
> Delaney - PK/1st Team
> Cockrill - TE/1st Team
> Yoshino - OL/2nd Team
> Uffleman - OL/2nd Team
> Scanlon - QB/2nd Team
> Eckert - WR/2nd Team
> Quitugua - OL/HM
> Scanlon - Player of the Year
>
>
> Defense
>
> Caron - DB/1st Team
> Huling - DB/1st Team
> Aiello - DE/1st Team
> Leo - DL/1st Team
> Delaney - P/1st Team
> Jewell - DE/2nd Team
> Pickett - LB/2nd Team
> Monticue - LB/2nd Team
> Lutz - DL/2nd Team
> Martin - DL/2nd Team
> Clancy - LB/HM
> Aiello - Player of the Year


Also, Petrillo - LB/1st Team

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mean nothing ()
Date: December 01, 2015 03:17AM

Duh10 Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks Guys! I have not seen anything from
> > Westfield or a complete list. Why so secret
> every
> > year with the complete list? VHSL? I think they
> > want to post in final weekend program every
> > year.....
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
> > ___________________
> >
> > Offense
> >
> > Scanlon - All Purpose/1st Team
> > Greene - KR/1st Team
> > Cordova - OL/1st Team
> > Delaney - PK/1st Team
> > Cockrill - TE/1st Team
> > Yoshino - OL/2nd Team
> > Uffleman - OL/2nd Team
> > Scanlon - QB/2nd Team
> > Eckert - WR/2nd Team
> > Quitugua - OL/HM
> > Scanlon - Player of the Year
> >
> >
> > Defense
> >
> > Caron - DB/1st Team
> > Huling - DB/1st Team
> > Aiello - DE/1st Team
> > Leo - DL/1st Team
> > Delaney - P/1st Team
> > Jewell - DE/2nd Team
> > Pickett - LB/2nd Team
> > Monticue - LB/2nd Team
> > Lutz - DL/2nd Team
> > Martin - DL/2nd Team
> > Clancy - LB/HM
> > Aiello - Player of the Year
>
>
> Also, Petrillo - LB/1st Team

None of this means a damn thing ocean lakes has all Americans on the team not all conference in Northen Va.. All Americans and they still will be at home Saturday.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Post fail ()
Date: December 01, 2015 06:14AM

Mean nothing Wrote:
>
> None of this means a damn thing ocean lakes has
> all Americans on the team not all conference in
> Northen Va.. All Americans and they still will be
> at home Saturday.

Ocean Lakes lost to Oscar Smith last weekend, they'll literally be at home but not on their home football field.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dur ()
Date: December 01, 2015 07:33AM

Post fail Wrote:
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> Mean nothing Wrote:
> >
> > None of this means a damn thing ocean lakes has
> > all Americans on the team not all conference in
> > Northen Va.. All Americans and they still will
> be
> > at home Saturday.
>
> Ocean Lakes lost to Oscar Smith last weekend,
> they'll literally be at home but not on their home
> football field.


Yes, that's exactly what he said.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All-Nothing ()
Date: December 01, 2015 08:07AM

And thats why a group of All American Individuals are sitting home and TEAMS of All Conference Guys are Still Playing...Takes 11, 22 sometimes 33 keep grinding you under-achieving conference TEAMS!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: not adding up ()
Date: December 01, 2015 08:11AM

Tilly Wrote:
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> Tilly all conference

Odd, that Tillys QB gets All-Conference awards and WF's WB Scanlon doesn't, but wins the POY?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: fan2015 ()
Date: December 01, 2015 11:26AM

Maybe the Concorde coaches knew what he was capable of at WR. I think you can make the arguement that Chantilly's QB was the best quarterback, but Scanlon is the most dynamic and important offensive player in the conference.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Parents ()
Date: December 01, 2015 12:38PM

Any coaching changes occurring? I hear Stuart is opening

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: December 01, 2015 02:00PM

the same thing happened in the patriot conference with muskett and Clayton, muskett got qb1 while Clayton got utility player. I definitely think chantilly QB is the second best Qb in the area behind muskett followed by west po qb

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 01, 2015 02:40PM

Parents Wrote:
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> Any coaching changes occurring? I hear Stuart is
> opening

Fairfax

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hey Steve ()
Date: December 01, 2015 06:36PM

Hey Steve whats your spreads for the South County/Westfield game and the Stone Bridge/Tuscarora game?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LangleyWinningStreak ()
Date: December 01, 2015 10:25PM

Langley is the only team in Conference 6 to end their season with a WIN!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 02, 2015 10:58AM

LangleyWinningStreak Wrote:
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> Langley is the only team in Conference 6 to end
> their season with a WIN!

There are only two ways to end your season with a win --

- Win the Championship
- Don't make the playoffs, but play a creampuff for your last regular season game.

Looks like Langley opted for the latter approach.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SaxonZ ()
Date: December 02, 2015 11:32AM

Saxons return a good group next year. Look for them to take the Conference next year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 02, 2015 01:00PM

SaxonZ Wrote:
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> Saxons return a good group next year. Look for
> them to take the Conference next year!


How so? I looked at Langley's representatives on the All Conference Six team, and it looks like you are losing 4/5 of your offensive linemen. Is that right?

What was Langley's JV record this year?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: December 02, 2015 03:16PM

Conference 6 fan Wrote:
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> SaxonZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Saxons return a good group next year. Look for
> > them to take the Conference next year!
>
>
> How so? I looked at Langley's representatives on
> the All Conference Six team, and it looks like you
> are losing 4/5 of your offensive linemen. Is that
> right?
>
> What was Langley's JV record this year?

Could you post or link the All-Confernce six team? I'd like to see how SL did this year. SL will lose some key contributors such as Kirlew & Grunshie but those are the kind of speed guys that SL consistenly produces. The qb is only a sophmore so he'll be around awhile and Kroll will be back to anchor the line so I think SL is likely to contend again next year.

Langley had a so-so JV team and a 2 win freshman team so combined with losing their senior qb and winning only 3 games this year they are likely to be outside looking in for awhile. Madison had good JV and freshmen teams this year but will lose a lot of senior varsity starters including the qb so they should be good but probably won't go 9-1 again.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 02, 2015 03:59PM

SL parent Wrote:
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> Conference 6 fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SaxonZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Saxons return a good group next year. Look
> for
> > > them to take the Conference next year!
> >
> >
> > How so? I looked at Langley's representatives
> on
> > the All Conference Six team, and it looks like
> you
> > are losing 4/5 of your offensive linemen. Is
> that
> > right?
> >
> > What was Langley's JV record this year?
>
> Could you post or link the All-Confernce six team?
> I'd like to see how SL did this year. SL will
> lose some key contributors such as Kirlew &
> Grunshie but those are the kind of speed guys that
> SL consistenly produces. The qb is only a
> sophmore so he'll be around awhile and Kroll will
> be back to anchor the line so I think SL is likely
> to contend again next year.
>
> Langley had a so-so JV team and a 2 win freshman
> team so combined with losing their senior qb and
> winning only 3 games this year they are likely to
> be outside looking in for awhile. Madison had
> good JV and freshmen teams this year but will lose
> a lot of senior varsity starters including the qb
> so they should be good but probably won't go 9-1
> again.

I had to look at a couple of places. Inside NOVA.com has a high school sports website. In their Arlington Section, they posted all conference players for W-L and Yorktown. In their Fairfax section, the posted all conference for Langley, McLean and Madison. I guess they don't cover western, central, or southern Fairfax County. Fairfax's football twitter page tweeted the all-conference selections for Fairfax. That means I haven't yet seen South Lakes or Hayfield. Believe me, I've looked.

It's way too early to predict for next year (a lot can happen in the offseason), but I'd have to think, right now, Madison should be the favorite again next year, despite the losses that you mention. I'd have McLean in last place, because their JV team was virtually non-existent, which tells me they really lack depth, but their freshman team had a respectable season. Places 2-7 are anyone's guess.

For this year, if I had to identify the biggest surprise team in Conference 6, it would be your South Lakes team. No one expected them to finish as high as they did. Madison's success was more expected. The two biggest disappointments would have to be Langley and Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY ()
Date: December 02, 2015 06:49PM

Rocky Road Wrote:
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> If Westfield Coaches let their
> Athletes compete (play calling) they go South...if
> Soco wins the turn over/penalty battle they head
> south...Should be a Great game

South County FOOTBALL has been building for this MOMENT for a long time. There is NO WAY they lose this game. It will be a BLOWOUT. Remember what Chad WIGGINS and Tyler LOVE did to Westfield the last couple of years??? That is what Kevin Allen will do to Westfield on SATURDAY!!! Look out because LORTON is headed to CHARLOTTESVILLE!!!!!! Peace OUT.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nah ()
Date: December 02, 2015 07:40PM

SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY Wrote:
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> Rocky Road Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If Westfield Coaches let their
> > Athletes compete (play calling) they go
> South...if
> > Soco wins the turn over/penalty battle they
> head
> > south...Should be a Great game
>
> South County FOOTBALL has been building for this
> MOMENT for a long time. There is NO WAY they lose
> this game. It will be a BLOWOUT. Remember what
> Chad WIGGINS and Tyler LOVE did to Westfield the
> last couple of years??? That is what Kevin Allen
> will do to Westfield on SATURDAY!!! Look out
> because LORTON is headed to CHARLOTTESVILLE!!!!!!
> Peace OUT.

DOUBT IT!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 02, 2015 07:52PM

Below is a list of 6A Northern Region Finals games. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Marshall 21, Mount Vernon 0
1987 – T.C. Williams, 21 Annandale 0
1988 – Robinson 21, West Potomac 14
1989 – West Potomac 14, Lake Braddock 8
1990 – Annandale 27, T.C Williams 6
1991 – South Lakes 13, Robinson 12
1992 – Robinson 21, Annandale 0
1993 – Annandale 25, West Springfield 7
1994 – Annandale 33, Chantilly 0
1995 – Lake Braddock 15, Chantilly 14
1996 – Chantilly 28, Robinson 8
1997 – Robinson 21, Centreville 12
1998 – Centreville 21, Oakton 19
1999 – Centreville 21, Lake Braddock 17
2000 – Centreville 16, Robinson 13
2001 – Robinson 40, Centreville 17
2002 – Oakton 31, Robinson 29
2003 – Westfield 28, Robinson 7
2004 – Robinson 29, Oakton 22
2005 – Oakton 42, Westfield 24
2006 – Chantilly 26, Westfield 21
2007 – Westfield 58, West Springfield 34
2008 – Oakton 52, Chantilly 14
2009 – Lake Braddock 27, W.T. Woodson 20
2010 – Lake Braddock 56, Chantilly 18
2011 – Centreville 27, Westfield 24
2012 – Oakton 23, Westfield 16
2013 – Centreville 35, Westfield 14
2014 – Centreville 21, Westfield 17

Wins:
Centreville – 6
Robinson – 5
Oakton – 4
Annandale – 3
Lake Braddock – 3
Chantilly – 2
Westfield – 2
Marshall – 1
South Lakes – 1
T.C. Williams – 1
West Potomac – 1

Appearances:
Robinson – 10
Centreville – 8
Westfield – 8
Chantilly – 6
Oakton – 6
Annandale – 5
Lake Braddock – 5
T.C. Williams – 2
West Potomac – 2
West Springfield – 2
Marshall -1
Mount Vernon – 1
South Lakes - 1
W.T. Woodson – 1



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2015 10:22PM by newgatedenizen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: wow interesting ()
Date: December 02, 2015 10:03PM

This is interesting, did not realize Centreville had been so dominant with Robinson close by in the mix.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 02, 2015 11:33PM

Below is a list of 5A Northern Region Finals games. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Edison 16, Stuart 12
1987 – Marshall 12, Fairfax 6
1988 – Yorktown 26, Marshall 20
1989 – Stuart 42, Edison 26
1990 – West Potomac 21, Hayfield 0
1991 – Langley 17, West Potomac 7
1992 – Hayfield 40, McLean 0
1993 – Langley 14, Hayfield 0
1994 – Fairfax 15, West Potomac 14
1995 – McLean 23, West Potomac 7
1996 – Madison 28, McLean 10
1997 – West Potomac 31, Mount Vernon 7
1998 – West Potomac 42, Park View 8
1999 – Yorktown 40, South Lakes 12
2000 – West Potomac 14, Langley 7
2001 – Mount Vernon 28, Madison 6
2002 – South Lakes 7, W.T. Woodson 2
2003 – Madison 20, Yorktown 0
2004 – W.T. Woodson 29, Edison 25
2005 – Stone Bridge 29 Edison 21
2006 – Edison 31, Stone Bridge 17
2007 – Stone Bridge 27, Edison 14
2008 – Stone Bridge 35, Edison 6
2009 – Stone Bridge 21, Lee 10
2010 – Stone Bridge 35, Hayfield 7
2011 – South County 37, Yorktown 13
2012 – Stone Bridge 69, Yorktown 50
2013 – Briar Woods 27, North Stafford 25
2014 – Tuscarora 41, Massaponax 21

Wins:
Stone Bridge – 6
West Potomac – 4
Edison – 2
Langley – 2
Madison – 2
Yorktown – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Fairfax – 1
Hayfield – 1
Marshall – 1
McLean – 1
Mount Vernon – 1
South County – 1
South Lakes – 1
Stuart – 1
Tuscarora – 1
W.T. Woodson – 1

Appearances:
Edison – 7
Stone Bridge – 7
West Potomac – 7
Yorktown – 5
Hayfield – 4
Langley – 3
Madison – 3
McLean – 3
Fairfax – 2
Marshall – 2
Mount Vernon – 2
South Lakes – 2
Stuart – 2
W.T. Woodson – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Lee – 1
North Stafford – 1
Massaponax – 1
Park View – 1
South County – 1
Tuscarora – 1



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/2015 11:41AM by newgatedenizen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Woodson Player ()
Date: December 03, 2015 09:19AM

Theres no way Kevin Allen doesnt take roids. Look at this mans face its blouted. No way a young man can lift that much from such a small body. If there were drug test in VHSL for PEDS he would be gone. Please check him out. Somethings wrong with that kid.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hahahaha1 ()
Date: December 03, 2015 09:27AM

Woodson Player Wrote:
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> Theres no way Kevin Allen doesnt take roids. Look
> at this mans face its blouted. No way a young man
> can lift that much from such a small body. If
> there were drug test in VHSL for PEDS he would be
> gone. Please check him out. Somethings wrong with
> that kid.

Yeah what's wrong is he doesn't play at Woodson!! Come watch in the weight room, he just simply works hard!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Fan ()
Date: December 03, 2015 09:30AM

The 2008 division 5A Regional Final is incorrect. Stone Bridge beat Edison 35-6. Edison was in the region finals 5 years in a row under the great coaching of Vaughn Lewis. I've tried to get the regional program corrected but have been unable.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: December 03, 2015 11:05AM

Westfield (-7.0) @ South County
*Told you all not to sleep on Westfield or the Concorde for that matter! Robinson gave SOCO everything they could handle and Westfield will be too much to handle. Scanlon should have never left the receiver position, It's best for the team to keep him there and that's a boost to the offense to go along with the stellar defense.

Stone Bridge @ Tuscarora (-7.0)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 03, 2015 11:40AM

A Fan Wrote:
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> The 2008 division 5A Regional Final is incorrect.
> Stone Bridge beat Edison 35-6. Edison was in the
> region finals 5 years in a row under the great
> coaching of Vaughn Lewis. I've tried to get the
> regional program corrected but have been unable.

Confirmed and fixed.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not So Fast Kirk ()
Date: December 03, 2015 12:40PM

I hardly think moving Scanlon out to WR, running double tight, max protecting, and throwing up fades means SoCo can't handle Westfield's offense. Are they more dynamic? Certainly. But to say that moving one player makes the difference and clearly puts Westfield over the top is a little pre-mature. LB decided the best way to defend Scanlon was to play off man coverage with short stack Mansaray over the top. And Mansaray wasn't even playing true bracket coverage, he stayed MOF and was late coming over to help the whole game. I doubt SoCo will make the same mistake and let Scanlon have a free release off the LOS.

I do like the spread though, expecting a close game that's going to come down to the final quarter!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Training Room ()
Date: December 03, 2015 02:18PM

Allen Pulls his Lame Hamstring early, I really wish he was 100% healthy so there would be no excuses...we shall see.

Scanlon is not Westfield only option, Giving Help over the Top leaves 6-5" Johnson, 6-5" Eckert, 6-3" frimpong and 6-3" Cockrill in single Coverage. with no help..

Allen has coverage responsibility in the spread, and when they are double tight, he's getting doubled.

I hope he has a good Game, I hope he has his best game of the year then John Carrol will finally offer him the London Fletcher Linebacker Scholarship.

South County is expected to win, therefore they have everything to LOSE....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Reaching ()
Date: December 03, 2015 02:45PM

True, Scanlon is not the only option for Westfield but if we're going to go with just their size as the reason then they should have dominated Robinson when they played. But they didn't, they won by a field goal and were a few calls/plays away from loosing that one too.

IMO the play calling is atrocious and makes poor use of the athletes at their disposal. With that amount of size and athleticism across the board they're offense should be averaging 35-40 points a game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Reach Around ()
Date: December 03, 2015 02:53PM

Any one at that game Robinson/Westfield, not taking anything away from Robinson whom I believe was the 3rd best team in the Region, could see the atrociousness of the play calling. Westfield passed the ball easily between the 30's then wanted to be a running team inside the 20's which resulted in turnovers and turnovers on downs repeatedly. Westfield left 14 points on the field as a result of play calling and 17 more from fumble as running back was going in to score and dropped TD Pass and missed field goal. They will need to execute and call plays as good if not better than last week. That Staff has been good at losing the Big game TOO Long, this week it ends.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 03, 2015 03:48PM

Training Room Wrote:
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> Scanlon is not Westfield only option, Giving Help
> over the Top leaves 6-5" Johnson, 6-5" Eckert,
> 6-3" frimpong and 6-3" Cockrill in single
> Coverage. with no help..

While I understand your point there is no way #11 and #82 are 6’5” - they would be 6’2” or 6’3” at best. I think they are listed as 6’3”.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Defense wins games ()
Date: December 03, 2015 05:00PM

Westfield has been a defense-first team all year, which has gotten them through some tough offensive games. They'll have to shut down a Soco team that put up 4 TDs against them the first time around (and that was with a healthy Clancy) and hope that the offense scores enough to win. Was the offensive production in the WF-LB game the new norm, or was it an aberration? Impossible to tell, but the Rehmon to Scanlon connection opened up a running game that has been sporadic all year. Soco will know that's coming and will be prepared for it. Can Rehmon look of his first option and check down? We'll see. I think the focus here should be whether WF can stop a multi-faceted Soco offense that can come at you from many directions.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dfgi ()
Date: December 04, 2015 03:18AM

Defense wins games Wrote:
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> Westfield has been a defense-first team all year,
> which has gotten them through some tough offensive
> games. They'll have to shut down a Soco team that
> put up 4 TDs against them the first time around
> (and that was with a healthy Clancy) and hope that
> the offense scores enough to win. Was the
> offensive production in the WF-LB game the new
> norm, or was it an aberration? Impossible to
> tell, but the Rehmon to Scanlon connection opened
> up a running game that has been sporadic all year.
> Soco will know that's coming and will be prepared
> for it. Can Rehmon look of his first option and
> check down? We'll see. I think the focus here
> should be whether WF can stop a multi-faceted Soco
> offense that can come at you from many directions.

Good analysis BUT I believe that SC struggles in pass coverage which had been constantly proven i.e. First rd Annandale and LB. If we keep them honest with a little run game we should move the ball easily up the field, there's just too many athletes on this side and we can take 55 out of the game if we force him to cover. See you guys in Charlottesville #dogpound

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 04, 2015 08:52AM

Defense wins games Wrote:
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> Westfield has been a defense-first team all year,
> which has gotten them through some tough offensive
> games. They'll have to shut down a Soco team that
> put up 4 TDs against them the first time around
> (and that was with a healthy Clancy) and hope that
> the offense scores enough to win. Was the
> offensive production in the WF-LB game the new
> norm, or was it an aberration? Impossible to
> tell, but the Rehmon to Scanlon connection opened
> up a running game that has been sporadic all year.
> Soco will know that's coming and will be prepared
> for it. Can Rehmon look of his first option and
> check down? We'll see. I think the focus here
> should be whether WF can stop a multi-faceted Soco
> offense that can come at you from many directions.

Good analysis BUT I believe that SC struggles in pass coverage which had been constantly proven i.e. First rd Annandale and LB. If we keep them honest with a little run game we should move the ball easily up the field, there's just too many athletes on this side and we can take 55 out of the game if we force him to cover. See you guys in Charlottesville #dogpound

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The difference in the first game between these teams was SOCO ran 71 offensive plays, WF had 43. With the compliment of R. Johnson, H Johnson, and Frimpong, all 3 did not play the first go round, WF has quite a few more weapons on O. If they can sustain drives and keep their D fresh that will go a long way in WF's success. In that first meeting the up-tempo of SOCO's offense definitely wore down WF's D, remember the Bulldogs lead at half, if ever so slightly at 13-12.

Not having Clancy definitely is a big loss but WF's D has stepped it up in his absence. Aiello and Petrillo have particularly raised their game making up for the loss of their injured leader. As a matter of fact, it seems that the entire D is playing better as of late. Also, don't forget in the first game the long TD pass that SOCO got was on a blown coverage. No excuse but the DB that was burned was starting his first game in place of a suspended player. If anyone knows WF's D coordinator they know that his units almost always are well prepared, don't think we'll see any breakdowns tomorrow.

No doubt, SOCO is the most explosive offense in 6A North, maybe in all of the 4 teams remaining in 6A for that matter. They will not be shut down, just don't think that's even doable, they've got just too many quality athletes. WF too has many quality athletes, this time on the offensive side as well. But as the original poster's name states, defense wins games, I don't think there's a doubt that the advantage on D goes to WF.

Should be a great game either way!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: saturdayearlyarriver ()
Date: December 04, 2015 09:45AM

This game may reveal whether putting Scanlon back at WR worked just because it was a change or whether Johnson really should have been playing QB all year. I don't think the WR trio of Johnson-Johnson-Frimpong has played all that great this season. James and Eckhert were just as good after they had a few games under their belt.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Saturday Special ()
Date: December 04, 2015 10:16AM

Any update on the SOCO Suspension(s) Been quiet after all the hubbub over the WF Kids...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Does it matter ()
Date: December 04, 2015 10:23AM

saturdayearlyarriver Wrote:
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> This game may reveal whether putting Scanlon back
> at WR worked just because it was a change or
> whether Johnson really should have been playing QB
> all year. I don't think the WR trio of
> Johnson-Johnson-Frimpong has played all that great
> this season. James and Eckhert were just as good
> after they had a few games under their belt.


SOCO cant guard any combo of wideouts we put out there hell in the first game we got a few deep balls on them and they constantly left Clancy open at the TE spot

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY ()
Date: December 04, 2015 11:42AM

South County simply has too many PLAYMAKERS for Westfield defense to handle. All this talk about suspended players - ONE mediocre starter on defense did not play in the first game. Now they don’t have CLANCY. Westfield offense better be ready to put at least 35 POINTS to win this game. NOT gonna happen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: BlackHawk ()
Date: December 04, 2015 12:08PM

SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY Wrote:
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> South County simply has too many PLAYMAKERS for
> Westfield defense to handle. All this talk about
> suspended players - ONE mediocre starter on
> defense did not play in the first game. Now they
> don’t have CLANCY. Westfield offense better be
> ready to put at least 35 POINTS to win this game.
> NOT gonna happen.

Not sure how you can make this statement with a straight face. Robinson's defense help South County and their offensive play makers to two scores and if not for a pick 6 by Kofi Bell the game would have been won by Robinson. Robinson's defense held South County and their vaunted offense to under 200 total yards!

Robinson's one dimensional offense ran for almost 300 yards on this supposedly brilliant defense. If it weren't for the terrible offensive play calling inside the red zone by Robinson's coach, SoCo would be sitting at home this weekend.

Not that Westfield needs any help, but Robinson gave them the blueprint on how to stop this high powered offense and unlike Robinson, Westfield won't be one dimensional on offense.

I'm normally a Westfield hater, but I'll swallow my pride and root for them this one weekend to put an end to the over hyped South County Stallions.

I predict a 27 - 20 victory by Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Equine ()
Date: December 04, 2015 12:22PM

Is this the week the vaunted Stallion gets Gelded?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Not true ()
Date: December 04, 2015 12:29PM

BlackHawk Wrote:
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> SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South County simply has too many PLAYMAKERS for
> > Westfield defense to handle. All this talk
> about
> > suspended players - ONE mediocre starter on
> > defense did not play in the first game. Now
> they
> > don’t have CLANCY. Westfield offense better
> be
> > ready to put at least 35 POINTS to win this
> game.
> > NOT gonna happen.
>
> Not sure how you can make this statement with a
> straight face. Robinson's defense help South
> County and their offensive play makers to two
> scores and if not for a pick 6 by Kofi Bell the
> game would have been won by Robinson. Robinson's
> defense held South County and their vaunted
> offense to under 200 total yards!
>
> Robinson's one dimensional offense ran for almost
> 300 yards on this supposedly brilliant defense. If
> it weren't for the terrible offensive play calling
> inside the red zone by Robinson's coach, SoCo
> would be sitting at home this weekend.
>
> Not that Westfield needs any help, but Robinson
> gave them the blueprint on how to stop this high
> powered offense and unlike Robinson, Westfield
> won't be one dimensional on offense.
>
> I'm normally a Westfield hater, but I'll swallow
> my pride and root for them this one weekend to put
> an end to the over hyped South County Stallions.
>
> I predict a 27 - 20 victory by Westfield.

Might be a blueprint, but they still have to stop it. I'm sure SC hasn't made any adjustments for the Westfield game, and are going to come in looking that same. Stop generalizing, and get some facts!! SC's offense will be ready to go, and they got a pretty good blueprint on how to school against Westfield week two.

Also, they had 250 yards of offense against Robinson!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Why the hype? ()
Date: December 04, 2015 12:38PM

What's WF done that makes them so dynamic this year? Explain to me why people seem to thing SC won't be prepared, and WF won't see the same team, only better, than the team they lost to week two?

SC is as dynamic as it gets as this years in the state, and they've worked hard and beat some pretty solid teams throughout the year. Robinson, played everyone they met this year tough, so how is it such a surprise they did it to SC? Robinson also has one of the best, if not the best DC in the state, so still not sure why it's so shocking.

Getting to this point undefeated, beating a team with a ton of momentum, and a pretty solid win streak in the region semifinal game is no joke. Maybe they took the wind out of LB's sails in week ten in order to WF to coming in a beat them up...

I get WF has tradition, but there is a pretty solid tradition of winning going on at SC, and everyone will get a chance to see this Saturday afternoon, in what should be an amazing game. Both teams are deserving, but only one is undefeated, so let the games begin!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Jack Clancy ()
Date: December 04, 2015 12:53PM

In fact I scored 2 TD's on Soco! Had 20 tackles! But wait a minute, I'm not playing. They scored 4 TD's and I had 20 tackles. Who's going to stop them? Hopefully our awesome offense can put up some points without me.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SoCoSoCloseButNoCigar ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:13PM

Why the hype? Wrote:
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> What's WF done that makes them so dynamic this
> year? Explain to me why people seem to thing SC
> won't be prepared, and WF won't see the same team,
> only better, than the team they lost to week two?
>
> SC is as dynamic as it gets as this years in the
> state, and they've worked hard and beat some
> pretty solid teams throughout the year. Robinson,
> played everyone they met this year tough, so how
> is it such a surprise they did it to SC? Robinson
> also has one of the best, if not the best DC in
> the state, so still not sure why it's so
> shocking.
>
> Getting to this point undefeated, beating a team
> with a ton of momentum, and a pretty solid win
> streak in the region semifinal game is no joke.
> Maybe they took the wind out of LB's sails in week
> ten in order to WF to coming in a beat them up...
>
> I get WF has tradition, but there is a pretty
> solid tradition of winning going on at SC, and
> everyone will get a chance to see this Saturday
> afternoon, in what should be an amazing game.
> Both teams are deserving, but only one is
> undefeated, so let the games begin!!

It wasn't a shock to anybody that has seen Robinson play but it was a surprise to the blowhards that think South County is the greatest offensive team that's ever played.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Defense wins ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:15PM

Why the hype is correct, in that SoCo seems to be not getting the appreciation they deserve, especially since they already beat wf once. Westfield Booster, your points are well taken, and the return of the suspended starters will bring a different dimension to WF that wasn't present in the first meeting. They should do better offensively.

The point I was trying to make was that this game will still come down to WF's ability to slow down the Stallions. It can be done (see Robinson), but Petrillo doesn't have Clancy next to him this time. I'm not taking anything away from your comments about Aillo (sp?) or Petrillo (I saw the nice write up on him in the Post and know of him from lacrosse), but with Clancy next to him, SoCo still scored 4 tds. Yes, the wf defense has grown and is exceptionally schemed. However, SoCo has also matured.

In order to win, wf will have to control the ball better than the first go 'round, but really, wf defense will have to hold SoCo to under 20. I don't think that will happen. Too many playmakers, too many offensive sets from which they attack. Defense wins, but WF's vaunted defense will fall short. Final score, 21-14 SoCo.

Either way, should be a great game. Good luck.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:27PM

In fact I scored 2 TD's on Soco! Had 20 tackles! But wait a minute, I'm not playing. They scored 4 TD's and I had 20 tackles. Who's going to stop them? Hopefully our awesome offense can put up some points without me.

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Cute, but if you were the real Jack Clancy you'd know he only scored 1 TD against SOCO. But I think you're pretty close in the amount of tackles he had!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:33PM

Re: High School Football 2015

Posted by: Defense wins ()

Date: December 04, 2015 01:15PM


Why the hype is correct, in that SoCo seems to be not getting the appreciation they deserve, especially since they already beat wf once. Westfield Booster, your points are well taken, and the return of the suspended starters will bring a different dimension to WF that wasn't present in the first meeting. They should do better offensively.

The point I was trying to make was that this game will still come down to WF's ability to slow down the Stallions. It can be done (see Robinson), but Petrillo doesn't have Clancy next to him this time. I'm not taking anything away from your comments about Aillo (sp?) or Petrillo (I saw the nice write up on him in the Post and know of him from lacrosse), but with Clancy next to him, SoCo still scored 4 tds. Yes, the wf defense has grown and is exceptionally schemed. However, SoCo has also matured.

In order to win, wf will have to control the ball better than the first go 'round, but really, wf defense will have to hold SoCo to under 20. I don't think that will happen. Too many playmakers, too many offensive sets from which they attack. Defense wins, but WF's vaunted defense will fall short. Final score, 21-14 SoCo.

Either way, should be a great game. Good luck.

----------------------------------------------------

You make some very good points, and in my opinion, the weakness of WF's D tomorrow will be against the inside run game.

I would be surprised if WF scores only 14 but again, as you stated, there might just be too many playmakers on SOCO's offense to stop let alone slow down.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow, should be a great day for hopefully a great game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Weakness ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:47PM

inside Run is placing a lot on a Back-up Center...Leo is A lot to move unless the middle triple teams leaving a few Helmets un blocked... the threat is in the yet to be seen, Both teams will have a few Aces up their Sleeve. Who executes best Wins!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: the Old Switcheroo ()
Date: December 04, 2015 01:58PM

You heard it hear first.

The back up Center for SoCo will spend his day diving through the knees of Leo. Taking a page right out of Robinson's playbook and driving the DC from Westfield crazy! Better bring some ice Leo!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: the Old ()
Date: December 04, 2015 02:12PM

Uhm its Here not hear....homophones.... look it up
The Starter wasn't much cant imagine a back-up being better? and as long as another Linemen is touching Leo while your All-Star is Diving at the knees, Leo will take the accompanying 15 yard penalty all day...see He's a team Player with or with out Ice.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LoCoBulldogFan ()
Date: December 04, 2015 02:17PM

Take Stone Bridge. 42-38. The Tusky magic runs out. They won 5 games this year with last possession scores.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LOCO - talent heavy! ()
Date: December 04, 2015 03:48PM

I have to agree - I think Stone Bridge can win this one.

However, Tuscarora QB is a special kid, a winner. If they have the ball last and need to score, he will find a way to get it done.

Should be as exciting, if not more than Westfield/South County.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: trivialtrivia ()
Date: December 04, 2015 09:07PM

South County opening in 2005 was built on the exact same model as Westfield which opened in 2000. Westfield had an addition to the original structure which accounts for the one small difference.

Westfield's first principal - Dale Rumberger was also South County's first principal. Rumberger was also the interim principal early this school year at Westfield after the departure of Principal Thomas.

Westfield was originally dubbed West County high school until the Westfield name was officially selected. This could have been West County vs. South County...
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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LoCoBulldogFan ()
Date: December 04, 2015 10:04PM

LoCoBulldogFan Wrote:
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> Take Stone Bridge. 42-38. The Tusky magic runs
> out. They won 5 games this year with last
> possession scores.

Stone Bridge 54-41.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 5A ()
Date: December 04, 2015 10:05PM

Wow, Stone Bridge just pounded Tuscarora 54-41, didn't see that coming. The Bulldogs offense pushed Tuscarora around for most of the night. Tuscarora also blew a few red zone opportunities.

Also, does anyone in 5A North play D. Scores this post season looked more like basketball not football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly TittanswT ()
Date: December 05, 2015 12:35AM

I was at the game tonight, SB went down the field 80 yards in 5 plays in the 2nd quarter like they were playing a JV team? Tuscarora had no answer for SB offense. These Div. 5 teams can not play any pass defense at all? 3 games played and gave up 200 pts????

NOT Good.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Are you kidding me? ()
Date: December 05, 2015 03:39AM

How can you seriously criticize the 5A North teams? Both regional finalists were from Loudoun.

Yes, they give up a lot of points, but everyone has trouble stopping their offenses.

Did you see how the 5A schools from Loudoun did against the 6A schools from Fairfax and Arlington this year?

Tuscarora beat Hayfield 40-14, Oakton 28-14, Centreville 49-42, Herndon 70-28 and Edison 34-6.

Broad Run beat Wakefield (Conference 13 Champs at 8-2) 40-6, Langley 45-21, Centreville 56-21, Yorktown 51-3, Oakton 28-21 and lost to Robinson 31-20.

Stone Bridge beat McLean 42-6, lost to Madison 35-24, beat Chantilly 42-28, lost to Westfield 28-7 (game was tied when Stone Bridge QB went out for the game with an injury), beat West Springfield 41-10, and lost to Robinson 27-20 (quarterback still out).

Hell, even Briar Woods, in their worst season in recent memory, who finished last in their District, beat Chantilly!

Not good? Goal is to score more points that your opponent. These results speak volumes.

And Tilly Tittansw - who are you touting as so damn good?

Face it - Loudoun D5 schools are strong as hell.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What's your point ()
Date: December 05, 2015 08:06AM

The majority of those teams from Fairfax and Arlington were mediocre to poor. When the Loudon teams we saw touted as the top teams competed against the top Fairfax County teams I'm pretty sure the results were not as impressive. Briar Woods and Stone Bridge were beat by Westfield a combined 64-7. Yes SB's QB went out and WF was missing 5 offensive starters. Also, last time I checked SB's QB didn't play D just like the 5A teams from Loudon.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: December 05, 2015 08:10AM

Tuscarora, a very good team, beat:
average Hayfield 40-14
average Oakton 28-14
below average Centreville 49-42
bad Herndon 70-28
horrible Edison 34-6

Broad Run, another very good team:
a below average Wakefield (Conference 13 Champs at 8-2-COnf 13? really?) 40-6
bad Langley 45-21
below average Centreville 56-21
bad Yorktown 51-3
average Oakton 28-21
and lost to a very good Robinson 31-20

Stone Bridge beat:
average McLean 42-6
lost to a good Madison 35-24 (first game of the year)
average Chantilly 42-28
lost to a very good Westfield 28-7 (game was tied when Stone Bridge QB went out for the game with an injury; WF without the suspended starters-a wash at least)
average and unpredictable West Springfield 41-10
lost to a very good Robinson 27-20 (quarterback still out).

Hell, even Briar Woods, in their worst season in recent memory, who finished last in their District, beat (average) Chantilly! And got waxed by Westfield.

If you know anything about the history of this area and the relative strength of the Loudon and Fairfax county teams, Loudon won the games they should have and split the better matchups 7-7. And that is not taking into consideration that the Concorde is, overall, a bit down this year and the Loudon schools did not really play SC and LB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 05, 2015 09:02AM

Conference 14 is very good. But I would not rank ANY of the Loudoun 5A North teams over ANY of the final 4 in 6A North (SC, WF, LB, ROB).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Tittans ()
Date: December 05, 2015 10:23AM

The last 3, 5A playoff games:
63-49
54-41
50-49

306 points??? play some defense my MAN. The last play of the half last night was a replay of the Lions vs. packers game. Knock the ball down.

Last weeks 6A Games:
20-15
31-7
Total 73 That is a long way from 306 with the Championship game today. Play some defense when you come to Fairfax County next season.

BTW- not a Charger backer

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: December 05, 2015 11:57AM

Muran back round eyes,

Rooks rike West dogs back to pray Sout Countee for region final. You ask Muran, "Muran who you say win game?" Muran say, why you even ask dis of Muran. It no prane as new born babee? Sout Countee sooooooo goooo dey don need startah centah to win. All dey need do is give Rambo back ball ret him run all ovah West dog face. Mayyyybeee dey throw ball to Spalding too. Muran no kno for sure. But Muran kno one ting, Muran be there today!

Muran.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: December 05, 2015 12:54PM

How.can you say Cville is below average but beat an average team in chantilly. McLean average. Chantilly average that beat an good team in Madison. Cville and chantilly took Robinson to the last play of the game. Just saying.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: North Final ()
Date: December 05, 2015 01:13PM

Anyone know if the game is going to be broadcast live online?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Halftime Score ()
Date: December 05, 2015 03:20PM

Westfield 13
SoCo 0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: December 05, 2015 03:41PM

20-0

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ah yeh ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:01PM

Concorde district still alive and kicking....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Dogpound ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:05PM

Where is SOCOS offense!!?? Defense wins chips babbbbby

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:09PM

And they said that the Concorde was overrated. But forreal tho, if Westfield didn't have suspensions and had #17 at QB the whole year I think they could've actually been better than the '03 and '07 teams.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt Morgan ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:32PM

Rolllllllll Dawgs!!!!!!!!! We are Westfield!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: No way 03 ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:46PM

I agree a very good team, but there hasn't been a team as good as the '03 Bulldogs possibly in VA high school football. Closes teams would be Annandale '93 and Chantilly '96.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Faux Co ()
Date: December 05, 2015 04:47PM

Hey FauxCo...that's two years and two regional failures. Now shut the fuck up until you have actually proven you are a team that deserves respect because you actually perform.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: On 2 states ()
Date: December 05, 2015 05:04PM

WF pretty much killed SoCo. SoCo's defense didn't show up for this game. Congrats to the Bulldogs. They earned it once they hit the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 05, 2015 05:39PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Re: High School Football 2015
> Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
> Date: September 26, 2015 12:00AM

> Interestingly, it is my opinion that this looks
> like the best defensive team Westfield has put on
> the field in the Kyle Simmons era (fifth season as
> head coach).

This was my observation after their dominating performance in the Stone Bridge game in week 4. And that tells the tale. Westfield's defense absolutely smothered South County the entire game from start to finish. Didn't really matter what their offense did.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Go Bulldogs ()
Date: December 05, 2015 05:56PM

Ok

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Three Words ()
Date: December 05, 2015 06:12PM

Concorde is king.

Before you respond....sshhhhhhhh, just don't.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What on earth... ()
Date: December 05, 2015 06:49PM

What just happened today is mind boggling... A team that was dead to rights against a south lakes team two weeks ago just beat the two regular season Titans a combined 61-15... Talk about a team figuring it out

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Crazy?? ()
Date: December 05, 2015 06:50PM

What just happened today is mind boggling... A team that was dead to rights against a south lakes team two weeks ago just beat the two regular season Titans a combined 61-15... Talk about a team figuring it out

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldogs ()
Date: December 05, 2015 07:12PM

Westfield hasn't been the team of superstars but a team… and today played as a Team. Speaks to the program. #foreverlinked #staysmiling

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: HS Football Fan ()
Date: December 05, 2015 08:15PM

Wow, hats off the Westfield Bulldogs football program. With all that they have been through this year with suspensions, injuries, and the passing of Connor B. They showed what a good group of young men can accomplish as a team. Their coaching staff also did an amazing job and silenced all of the "haters".

Good luck next week in the State Final.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: stallion4lyfe ()
Date: December 05, 2015 08:46PM

Westfield got lucky today
Refs won that game for Westfield, I hope the refs got a lot of money for this game

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: soco guy ()
Date: December 05, 2015 08:57PM

Come on now. I don't believe whoever just posted that is actually a soco fan. No one who saw the game would actually think that.

Westfield was strong. Good game to them. Their kicker can make that ball go almost as long as his mullet. Neither team was at their best in their respective losses to each other.

Stallions had a great season. At least we can agree that no one wants to see a beach team win next week - root for the North!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Quiz Time ()
Date: December 05, 2015 09:01PM

Okay SoCo coaches, you ready for a quiz?

Scanlon lines up on the left, Frimpong on the right. Frimpong goes in motion.

What play is Westfield running?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: December 05, 2015 09:11PM

Quiz Time Wrote:
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> Okay SoCo coaches, you ready for a quiz?
>
> Scanlon lines up on the left, Frimpong on the
> right. Frimpong goes in motion.
>
> What play is Westfield running?


Several thousand people without headsets could see what wee coming. Nobody on the SoCo sidelines could, though.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: December 05, 2015 09:56PM

Knighthawk Wrote:
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> Can't believe I'm saying this but Westfield will
> be representing the Northern Region in the State
> Final.
>
> If Robinson's defense could hold the SoCo offense
> to two TDs, then I think Westfield is going to
> dominate the Stallions.

Well, I called it. Westfield dominated the Stallions.

Maybe if the South County fans actually took the time to watch their games and how they won, they would have seen this coming, but all they could do was talk about their high powered offense.

Not to take away from their great offensive players, but it's easy to be a high powered offense when you play teams with no defense whatsoever. They saw last week what their team looks like when they play a team that actually knows what their doing on defense. If only Robinson didn't have a one dimensional offense the outcome would have been different.

I only saw South County live once and that was against Robinson but I watched highlights of their other games and replaying them over and over to see how they scored, what you saw where teams with little or no defense. Players out of position, or not capable of playing defense.

Congratulations to Westfield, representing the Concorde District and Northern Region next week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt Morgan ()
Date: December 05, 2015 09:57PM

Let's go Bulldogs! Take States and make us program alumni proud! Time to rock like it's 2007!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WF QB ()
Date: December 05, 2015 10:06PM

You think Scanlon's dad is still demanding that he play QB??

Glad the Westfield coaching staff finally seemed to figure it out by putting Johnson at QB.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Village Idiot ()
Date: December 05, 2015 10:42PM

Scanlns Dad didn't demand his kid played QB you idiot...Any one that knows anything knows Johnson is one bone-headed mistake away from serving another 30 Day suspension.. Glad he is deciding to be a team player... WF staff doesn't play those games Moron...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Vhsl ()
Date: December 05, 2015 10:47PM

If Panoni has half a sack, he makes #1 who got ejected and #4 who took a cheap shot to earn the games last unsportsmanlike penalty apologize to the Northern Region for being the Douches that they were Today... That is on Coach and if he doesn't the school administration should take action on him...totally classless!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 05, 2015 10:59PM

I hate to complain about local sports coverage of high school football since I suppose we should just be happy anyone is covering it all these days - but geez, what a year it has been with the Washington Post, Fairfax Times, Connections newspapers both print and online making numerous mistakes and errors in their stories. I don't usually point it out because I'm glad there is some coverage.

One small example and I have many many more:
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/sports/westfield-advances-to-state-semifinals-to-face-undefeated--/article_55e711d0-9ae1-11e5-8cfd-bb3f7bcdefe5.html

What's wrong with the caption on the photo?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Inside scoop ()
Date: December 05, 2015 11:21PM

So co s center got busted for possession of marijuana and got suspension. ...hecis son of South county commissioner little league football

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 05, 2015 11:25PM

I'm curious about the QB switch by SoCo - was #11 injured or was Pannoni just trying to shake things up like he did in the first game against Westfield when he changed QB's after a few series?

This went pretty much like the LB game - reasonably close hard fought first half with an edge to Westfield - but total domination on the lines in the second half.

Really did not anticipate Westfield's performance over the last two games - they have kicked things up a notch. Mistake free football and huge edge in special teams play also. #5 for Westfield was spectacular on KO's, FG's and punts today.

Here's the thing - #17 is not really that much better a QB than #10 - pretty much a wash really. But #10 is much much better WR than #17.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: #10 ()
Date: December 05, 2015 11:50PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> I'm curious about the QB switch by SoCo - was #11
> injured or was Pannoni just trying to shake things
> up like he did in the first game against Westfield
> when he changed QB's after a few series?
>
> This went pretty much like the LB game -
> reasonably close hard fought first half with an
> edge to Westfield - but total domination on the
> lines in the second half.
>
> Really did not anticipate Westfield's performance
> over the last two games - they have kicked things
> up a notch. Mistake free football and huge edge
> in special teams play also. #5 for Westfield was
> spectacular on KO's, FG's and punts today.
>
> Here's the thing - #17 is not really that much
> better a QB than #10 - pretty much a wash really.
> But #10 is much much better WR than #17.

The thing is, #10 was drawing double coverage all day. They had a safety over the top the entire game. No other receiver on WF would draw that coverage. This opened up the run game and the middle of the field for the WRs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfieldrox ()
Date: December 06, 2015 12:13AM

3-2-1 ... WIN!
Attachments:
Westfield 2015 NR Champions.jpg

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Two seven ()
Date: December 06, 2015 07:02AM

How in the hell are you supposed to win when your starting center the south county commissioner s son is busted for smoking marijuana and possession of marijuana 1 week before the biggest game of year??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: y73c3 ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:21AM

Two seven Wrote:
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> How in the hell are you supposed to win when your
> starting center the south county commissioner s
> son is busted for smoking marijuana and possession
> of marijuana 1 week before the biggest game of
> year??

Is this a true fact? I have heard nothing about this.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: cheech and Chong ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:32AM

Told you cheech and Chong were seen on Campus a while Back, and Dont get your panties in a bunch..he wasnt any good to begin with and the word in the thread was the back up was going to dominate Leo all game...Im sure the kid had a better Day at home Blazin it up than his Team mates did getting Smacked silly...and Finally as the Haters have posted ad nauseum..no excuses remember when Westfield sat 6...skilled players..Roll A fatty and smoke it off!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: States ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:42AM

Congratulations to the Bulldogs of Westfield and Stone Bridge. Let's repeat 2007 when both went to Charlottesville and came home with a state championship.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:46AM

Vhsl Wrote:
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> If Panoni has half a sack, he makes #1 who got
> ejected and #4 who took a cheap shot to earn the
> games last unsportsmanlike penalty apologize to
> the Northern Region for being the Douches that
> they were Today... That is on Coach and if he
> doesn't the school administration should take
> action on him...totally classless!

Both Juniors. Both punks.

#1 should have to sit the first game next season.

This team has some experience with players being tossed. They know the drill.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hey Donkeys ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:09AM

My point is that the majority, not all, of you Fairfax worshippers assumed that the Division 6 schools would wipe the floor with even the best of the Loudoun Division 5 schools from top to bottom.

That was simply not true. The Loudoun schools pretty much rolled over any of the Fairfax schools, with the exception of the Top 4. That is what was surprising this year.

Robinson and Westfield are so much larger in population. You can't tell me that if Broad Run or Stone Bridge had another 800-1000 kids to chose from that they wouldn't beat even Westfield and Robinson regularly.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Snoopy ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:33AM

Fact--Ben will be going to court next week for marijuana possession with intent to distribute. Starting center for soco and soco football commissioner s son..Ben and his brother are known dealers in the south county high schhool. ..

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:39AM

Hey Donkeys Wrote:
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> My point is that the majority, not all, of you
> Fairfax worshippers assumed that the Division 6
> schools would wipe the floor with even the best of
> the Loudoun Division 5 schools from top to
> bottom.

I don't believe anyone thought that. If you actually go back and read this thread from the start most posters assumed Loudoun would win the majority of the games.


> That was simply not true. The Loudoun schools
> pretty much rolled over any of the Fairfax
> schools, with the exception of the Top 4. That is
> what was surprising this year.

The only thing that surprised me is that Centreville and Chantilly could not pick-up a win.


> Robinson and Westfield are so much larger in
> population. You can't tell me that if Broad Run or
> Stone Bridge had another 800-1000 kids to chose
> from that they wouldn't beat even Westfield and
> Robinson regularly.

There is not a big enough size difference between SB/BR and WF/ROB for that to be a significant factor. There are probably more kids going out for football at SB/BR than there are at WF/ROB. Or at least the same. And Conference 14 is already competitive with Conference 5 and 7. So enrollment is not the issue. Some years the top teams in Conference 14 may be the best in the North. I just don't think that is the case this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Double coverage ()
Date: December 06, 2015 01:28PM

Remember last week when some douche called for the LB coaches job because he did not double #10. Yesterday Soco doubled 10 and got gashed in the run. If you do not understand the game stay off the boards.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Double Coverage ()
Date: December 06, 2015 01:39PM

Heard on Soco Sideline from Soco Coach as scanlon lined up on their side of Field and Corner moved up to press him and Safety bracketed over top..."this is how you stop him...all Day Baby" In background Frimpong comes in motion and their 6th string running back Gallops down the sideline for many of his 245...We only come to the Boards to read the ignorant and absurd jack-ass!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Defense wins ()
Date: December 06, 2015 02:19PM

Well, I was wrong. Sort of. Defense does win, I just didn't think it would happen quite the way it did yesterday. Congratulations to WF, especially to the defense. On the other side, SoCo cheated our safety over Scanlon for most of the day, basically saying we will not him beat us. Very successful, in that he didn't beat us. Made it easy to gash of long runs when there was no safety support, as well as some internal LB breakdowns that left the middle exposed. as I read this board, not sure that the WF defense is getting enough appreciation. The scheming was excellent, and it seemed that everyone contributed. #20, one of the smaller players on the field, had several standout plays. Congrats and good luck next week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Bulldogs ()
Date: December 06, 2015 02:22PM

Any chance that the Bulldogs bring home the trophy to NOVA next week?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: December 06, 2015 02:40PM

States Wrote:
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> Congratulations to the Bulldogs of Westfield and
> Stone Bridge. Let's repeat 2007 when both went to
> Charlottesville and came home with a state
> championship.

I'll second that motion. Always rooting for the other Bulldogs when we are not playing each other.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Capt. Morgan ()
Date: December 06, 2015 02:44PM

westfielddadx2 Wrote:
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> States Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Congratulations to the Bulldogs of Westfield
> and
> > Stone Bridge. Let's repeat 2007 when both went
> to
> > Charlottesville and came home with a state
> > championship.
>
> I'll second that motion. Always rooting for the
> other Bulldogs when we are not playing each other.


I'll third that motion. Always rooting for stone bridge as well, go dawgs at the state title!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 06, 2015 03:35PM

Any chance that the Bulldogs bring home the trophy to NOVA next week?

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Well, they've got a 50/50 chance I guess! It won't be easy, going up against a quality team in Oscar Smith. Interestingly enough the two teams are pretty close in a points scored and allowed. OS averages 32.3 points a game, WF 29.3 and OS allows 9.7, WF 10.5 a game.

Looking at the OS schedule it would appear they played six 6A, three 5A, three 4A, and one 3A schools. WF played twelve 6A and two 5A schools, their strength of schedule of course is greater. Does that give WF an advantage of having played better competition, probably not.

Bottom line is the two teams left in 6A were two of the top schools coming into the season. The team that executes, plays fundamental football, and limits penalties & turnovers will win. Not sure that you could say going in either team has a distinct advantage over the other.

Just hope it's a good game and the forecast for temps in the 60's pans out!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Blackhawk ()
Date: December 06, 2015 04:15PM

Two seven Wrote:
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> How in the hell are you supposed to win when your
> starting center the south county commissioner s
> son is busted for smoking marijuana and possession
> of marijuana 1 week before the biggest game of
> year??

He wasn't. He got busted the week leading up to the Robinson game so the backup had at least one game under his belt.

Just another knucklehead, self entitled snot who thinks more of himself than the team.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Big Balls ()
Date: December 06, 2015 06:01PM

Anyone who knows Westfield football knows #20 is lb for lb the toughest player on the field...that kid would be an unstoppable FREAK at 210-225 lbs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Defense wins ()
Date: December 06, 2015 07:18PM

I assume you were responding to my post. I don't know #20. He's not 220 pounds, so don't really understand your point. MY point was that he was a substantial contributor, and made several good plays that mattered in the greater scheme of things. He was not a player on the radar coming into the game, and I wanted to give him deserved credit for a good game.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: xXKU6 ()
Date: December 06, 2015 07:39PM

Who was the biggest bust LB or soco. I take LB prett soft schedule and choked same way as possible. Soco, still pretty big choke and huge upset. Not saying they should of won but westfields margin of winning was far too large. Soco did have one of the most high scoring offense in the state

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:06PM

"Soco, still pretty big choke and huge upset."

Huge win for Westfield? Absolutely. Huge upset? Not a chance. If you know what you are talking about you would know it was not an upset. I did expect a closer game, but when SC refused to adjust to the CB being pulled away from the play by Frimpong going in motion they were done. Add in that SC has played only one defense anywhere remotely near Westfield's caliber (Robinson-who probably should have won that game last week, IMO) and SC was not going to score a ton of points. Knighthawk, posting above, said what mattered. SC's offense, as good as it was, scored mostly against teams with bad defenses. The SC schedule was not as good as Westfield's. Saturday showed that, as well as SC was outcoached.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Anar ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:23PM

So what happened to the south county starter exactly ?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: parole ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:56PM

We will tell you what happened to old dirt weed when Soco lines up and plays with 6 suspended starters.... Until then raise your Red Cups!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What you say now ()
Date: December 06, 2015 08:56PM

First, congrats to Westfield for finally getting that monkey off their back. That was a very impressive victory but not a surprise in my opinion. As previously discussed Westfield's defense is hands down one of the better D's around. SOCO did have the weapons but as pointed out they put points up on lesser quality defenses.

Second, there were a ton of people popping off on this board whenever the WF fans mentioned the suspended offensive starters in the first SOCO vs WF game. In short those masses told the WF fans to stop making excuses. It would appear those missing players were a valid excuse based on the 40 points they put on the Stallions.

Third, there was much discussion about the lack of offense WF had early to mid season. Well that should have been expected, they basically started with their full cast at the 6th game of the season. It took them a little time but the coaches and players finally figured it out and now appear to be in stride. Since WF's defense stayed pretty much intact it's no surprise how consistent that unit has been. Throw in special teams and the Bulldogs are the team that everyone touted prior to the start of this season as being the best team in 6A North. So it should come as no shock the Bulldogs are heading to Charlottesville, that's what most the prognosticators told us was going to happen some 14 weeks ago. Westfield just had to come through more adversity than most to eventually become that team. They deserve it and certainly earned it!

Last of all where are all those "Buffalo Bills", "choke artists", "overrated", "stop making excuses", etc., etc. so called know-it-all posters now?!

Crickets, that's what I hear.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield still sux ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:04PM

Westfield still blows - lucky because the rest of the North down this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What you say now ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:32PM

> Westfield still blows - lucky because the rest of the North down this year.


Nice try idiot, go troll some other board!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: ok dad ()
Date: December 06, 2015 09:34PM

Okay Westfield Dad, little tense aren't you?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: niggers get beat again ()
Date: December 07, 2015 08:01AM

Glad those niggers from S County got whipped. Westfield has a good number of white players, though some of them are probably whites trying to act like nigger, but good luck next week.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A fact ()
Date: December 07, 2015 08:09AM

Wf is the best in the region....no doubt....they deserve much credit for that.

But the scanlon QB demand is widely known in coaching circles...he said qb or he would go play somewhere else.

They could have put Pickett or a almost anyone back there and thrown him the ball this year.....should hey finally got it right. As others have said, that opened the whole other side to run on...no safety


Hey, Wf did it...he is a very talented athlete. Not what my family would have done but it worked out so far. I just hope he does not reclass again.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: A Wrong ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:00AM

A Wrong... A D-1 Basketball SIGNEE, A D-1 Basketball Signee, A D-1 Basketball Signees Dad tells the Football coach, My kid Plays QB or Else (WRONG Sport), after losing the State Final Basketball game by 1pt. on a last second Put back. Your an Idiot. He Came to play BASKETBALL and just happens to be a pretty good Football Player as well...People find his Father to be abrasive so they spout a bunch of garbage. Fortunately for Westfield the Kid is stand-up and is respected by his peers. Take your grudge with his father to the Man himself. And he will be on the Campus of Boston U next fall no worries, Playing BASKETBALL, unless his Dad demands Boston U. plays him at QB...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfield over everyone ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:14AM

fuck all the haters we the best nigga

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: December 07, 2015 11:16AM

What on earth... Wrote:
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> What just happened today is mind boggling... A
> team that was dead to rights against a south lakes
> team two weeks ago just beat the two regular
> season Titans a combined 61-15... Talk about a
> team figuring it out

Although I wouldn't call a 3 point defecit about 1/2 the 4th quarter remaining "dead to rights", I'm not as surprised that WF won the region as much as the dominating manner in which they won it.

I posted after the SL game that I thought WF didn't look as good as past WF teams but I may have overestimated how good those past teams were because they were playing such lousy South Lakes teams then. OS will test the "region is down" mantra going on in this thread, even if WF loses but plays them tough it will give that less credibility. Of course if that happens or WF wins then the new mantra will be "the state is down this year".

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 07, 2015 11:41AM

FYI, alignment will go to four regions in 2017. This will probably look something like Patriot and Liberty in one, Concorde and Cedar Run in another. That's 16 teams to 11; 12 when Colgan opens in PWC.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield All-Regional Picks ()
Date: December 07, 2015 12:23PM

As tweeted by WF ("U' is unanimous).

WF OL #73 Dominquez, Rodrigo 1st Team
WF Kick Returner #27 Greene, Tavon 1st Team
WF Place Kicker #5 Delaney, Brian 1st Team
WF Punter #5 Delaney, Brian 1st Team
WF D Player of the Year #2 Aiello, Jay 1st Team
WF Off Utility Player #10 Scanlon, Tyler 1st Team (U)
WF O Player of the Year #10 Scanlon, Tyler 1st Team (U)
WF D lineman #72 Leo, Chris 1st Team (U)
WF D End #2 Aiello, Jay 1st Team (U)
WF Linebacker #32 Petrillo, Kevin 1st Team (U)


WF Tight End #97 Cockrill, Nolan 2nd Team
WF D Back #25 Caron, Joe 2nd Team

WF D Back #8 Huling, Cole HM

WF Coach of the Year Simmons, Kyle

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: December 07, 2015 12:37PM

GAU Wrote:
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> FYI, alignment will go to four regions in 2017.
> This will probably look something like Patriot and
> Liberty in one, Concorde and Cedar Run in another.
> That's 16 teams to 11; 12 when Colgan opens in
> PWC.

And what do you think 6A South will look like?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 07, 2015 12:42PM

footballobserver2 Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FYI, alignment will go to four regions in 2017.
> > This will probably look something like Patriot
> and
> > Liberty in one, Concorde and Cedar Run in
> another.
> > That's 16 teams to 11; 12 when Colgan opens in
> > PWC.
>
> And what do you think 6A South will look like?


The South already uses a subregion format, so I see no reason why that wouldn't carry over: one region for Hampton Roads (Confs 1-2), one for eastern PW, Stafford, Richmond, Midlothian (Confs 3-4). 12 and 13 schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Region ()
Date: December 07, 2015 02:08PM

WF representing the All-Region Team rather nicely, 3 of those kids are Juniors and 1 is a sophomore. Nice Showing, where is the Full list posted for the other schools in the region?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 07, 2015 03:05PM

WF representing the All-Region Team rather nicely, 3 of those kids are Juniors and 1 is a sophomore. Nice Showing, where is the Full list posted for the other schools in the region?

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Two juniors and one sophomore, There are 2 Greene's on the team, #27 is a senior.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Otis The Barber ()
Date: December 07, 2015 03:34PM

I wasn't confused with the Greene Fella's I counted Delaney and his Mullet as 2!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: December 07, 2015 05:22PM

Go Bulldogs!!
Ironically, this is probably the weakest of the last five teams, four of which couldn't get over the regional hump, but regardless they are the one team that got it done in the big game. I think both the 2011 and 2012 teams were the best of the lot, but no matter, on to the State finals. This program should be commended for their overall consistency and class in winning. It all starts with good coaching and they have had it for an extended period of time. Good luck Bulldogs!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: All North Region Team ()
Date: December 07, 2015 05:37PM

Does anyone know where to locate the entire All North Region Team?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Funny3 ()
Date: December 07, 2015 08:44PM

Does anyone else find it hilarious that all the Westfield players openly acknowledged in interviews the fact that people called them the buffalo bills?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 07, 2015 09:09PM

Go Bulldogs!!
Ironically, this is probably the weakest of the last five teams, four of which couldn't get over the regional hump, but regardless they are the one team that got it done in the big game. I think both the 2011 and 2012 teams were the best of the lot, but no matter, on to the State finals. This program should be commended for their overall consistency and class in winning. It all starts with good coaching and they have had it for an extended period of time. Good luck Bulldogs!!!

______________________________________________

Offensively yes, special teams coverage and defense, I'm not so sure. The 2012 team had the best offense out of the group, the 2015 team has the best D. If you look back the teams you mentioned were all around solid teams but I don't think any of them had a defense as strong as this years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield needs the black couch ()
Date: December 07, 2015 09:57PM

What I think is funny is all the navel gazing Westfield fans do.....were you beaten as children? Seem like you need constant affirmation. Yes you are ok, yes your team did good, enjoy it - don't be such pussies.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:02PM

yep no shit, Westfield is a bunch of pussies, by the way half of the team should have been thrown off the team for entire season for all the dixie cupping but guess the desire to stop being the Buffalo Bills overtook better judgement of those in charge....good ethics Bulldogs

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tough guy ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:02PM

> don't be such pussies.


Says the internet tough guy.....

Why read this thread since it most probably will be nothing but WF fans?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: That's smart ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:08PM

> yep no shit, Westfield is a bunch of pussies, by the way half of the team should have been thrown off the team for entire season for all the dixie cupping but guess the desire to stop being the Buffalo Bills overtook better judgement of those in charge....good ethics Bulldogs


Boy that's an intelligent statement, what's the matter, can't come up with any original stuff, you've got to go with the Dixie cup Buffalo Bills material.

BTW brainchild it's judgment, not judgement. Go to bed junior, it's past your bedtime!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog for Life ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:32PM

all you parents have no lives, hope you guys have fun watching us get a ring on saturday btw all your kids suck at football tell them to quit and save there time lol

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:41PM

Does anyone really know anything about Oscar Smith this year? I haven't seen them play since they got crushed by Centreville in 2013. I see they have the same QB. Do they still run the same offense? Who should I be watching on offense and defense?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: What if ()
Date: December 07, 2015 10:58PM

I typically don't like hypotheticals but what could this Bulldogs team have been without suspensions and injuries? What if Johnson played QB the whole year? Clancy has
been out for over half the year and let's not forget that the D1 RB for Westfield didn't even play this season. I seriously think this team could've challenged the '07 Bulldogs for 2nd best team in school history.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 08, 2015 01:51AM

Oscar Smith has won all year with no Senior starters on defense. Three Div 1 studs transferred to Lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes and Indian River. Despite that, they built a lock down defense that has not allowed many points, maybe less than 100 including these playoffs. All of their closest games featured special teams plays that made the difference to win those games. Blocked extra points, blocked punts, runbacks of shanked punts, runbacks of onside kicks were commonplace. Beamer Ball like it used to be!

Next week i expect a battle royal. Westfield is like Smith in that they will both be very well prepared, disciplined and agressive until the final whistle. But if the game is close, Oscar Smith should have an advantage with their special teams.

Oh and they only have 3-4 seniors that start for this team. So, expect more of the same from them next year too!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 08:54AM

I looked more at alignment. I'm not sure how much input the existing conferences/districts will have in the new regions, but now might be the chance to make some changes.

Herndon wants out of Concorde. They would prefer to be in the Liberty with schools closer to their size. I would swap Herndon with Fairfax and South Lakes, which would work based on size and geography, and balance out the distribution of teams.

That would make a 13 team region of Battlefield, Stonewall, Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Patriot, Colgan (new PWC in 2016), Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson, Westfield, Fairfax, and South Lakes. This also leaves room to grow for Prince William, which should open another in that area within a few years, and any Loudoun school that would move up.

The other region would be Hayfield, Langley, Madison, McLean, W-L, Yorktown, Herndon, Annandale, Lake Braddock, Mount Vernon, South County, West Potomac, West Springfield, TC Williams, Woodson. That's 15 schools. The problem is you have several teams on the bubble between 5A and 6A on that side of the county - TJ, Stuart, Edison, and Lee are all within about 100 students of being 6A. If those grow, you may have to bump someone like a Lake Braddock.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:03AM

Smith Wrote:
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> Oscar Smith has won all year with no Senior
> starters on defense. Three Div 1 studs transferred
> to Lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes and Indian River.
> Despite that, they built a lock down defense that
> has not allowed many points, maybe less than 100
> including these playoffs. All of their closest
> games featured special teams plays that made the
> difference to win those games. Blocked extra
> points, blocked punts, runbacks of shanked punts,
> runbacks of onside kicks were commonplace. Beamer
> Ball like it used to be!
>
> Next week i expect a battle royal. Westfield is
> like Smith in that they will both be very well
> prepared, disciplined and agressive until the
> final whistle. But if the game is close, Oscar
> Smith should have an advantage with their special
> teams.
>
> Oh and they only have 3-4 seniors that start for
> this team. So, expect more of the same from them
> next year too!

I'm sorry, what? Oscar Smith has the advantage with their special teams? I forgot Westfield has the #1 overall kicker/punter in the COUNTRY....must have been a typo....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:07AM

Really? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oscar Smith has won all year with no Senior
> > starters on defense. Three Div 1 studs
> transferred
> > to Lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes and Indian River.
> > Despite that, they built a lock down defense
> that
> > has not allowed many points, maybe less than
> 100
> > including these playoffs. All of their closest
> > games featured special teams plays that made
> the
> > difference to win those games. Blocked extra
> > points, blocked punts, runbacks of shanked
> punts,
> > runbacks of onside kicks were commonplace.
> Beamer
> > Ball like it used to be!
> >
> > Next week i expect a battle royal. Westfield is
> > like Smith in that they will both be very well
> > prepared, disciplined and agressive until the
> > final whistle. But if the game is close, Oscar
> > Smith should have an advantage with their
> special
> > teams.
> >
> > Oh and they only have 3-4 seniors that start
> for
> > this team. So, expect more of the same from
> them
> > next year too!
>
> I'm sorry, what? Oscar Smith has the advantage
> with their special teams? I forgot Westfield has
> the #1 overall kicker/punter in the
> COUNTRY....must have been a typo....

South Lakes did block a Westfield FG attempt. That is the sort of thing Smith was talking about. But that is a rarity. Westfield has extremely solid special teams. They have quite a few blocks this season as well.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Perspective1 ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:12AM

Really? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oscar Smith has won all year with no Senior
> > starters on defense. Three Div 1 studs
> transferred
> > to Lake Taylor, Ocean Lakes and Indian River.
> > Despite that, they built a lock down defense
> that
> > has not allowed many points, maybe less than
> 100
> > including these playoffs. All of their closest
> > games featured special teams plays that made
> the
> > difference to win those games. Blocked extra
> > points, blocked punts, runbacks of shanked
> punts,
> > runbacks of onside kicks were commonplace.
> Beamer
> > Ball like it used to be!
> >
> > Next week i expect a battle royal. Westfield is
> > like Smith in that they will both be very well
> > prepared, disciplined and agressive until the
> > final whistle. But if the game is close, Oscar
> > Smith should have an advantage with their
> special
> > teams.
> >
> > Oh and they only have 3-4 seniors that start
> for
> > this team. So, expect more of the same from
> them
> > next year too!
>
> I'm sorry, what? Oscar Smith has the advantage
> with their special teams? I forgot Westfield has
> the #1 overall kicker/punter in the
> COUNTRY....must have been a typo....


How about some perspetive...he isn't NEARLY the #1 kicker in the country. Don't be such a drama queen.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:27AM

GAU Wrote:
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> FYI, alignment will go to four regions in 2017.
> This will probably look something like Patriot and
> Liberty in one, Concorde and Cedar Run in another.
> That's 16 teams to 11; 12 when Colgan opens in
> PWC.

Is a four region alignment a done deal, and will it be implemented in all divisions and all regions? For divisions below 6A, four regions makes sense, given the wide geographical dispersement of the smaller schools, but the current 6A North is relatively compact. I'd be inclined to leave 6A north as a single region, though I would want to see how enrollments shake out, and whether any current 5A schools in Fairfax will move up. I think the VHSL tries to make all six divisions equal in size, so if there are only minimal new schools, a school that moves up to 6A causes some other school somewhere to move down to 5A.

If there are Arlington/Fairfax schools that can move up to 6A, I'd like to see all of PWC moved to the south. As the current alignment stands, none of the 5 PWC Northern region schools play anyone (in football at least) in Fairfax. The alignment is a bit unfair in other sports. In basketball, for example, the top four teams from each conference make the post season tournament. That means if you are, for example, in Conference 6, or 7, you have to be better than four teams, but if you are in Conference 5, you only have to be better than 2, and in Conference 8, you only have to be better than one.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:36AM

The committee voted 24-1 to "recommend" the four region format.


To keep the regions roughly equal, Prince William has to be split. I think that PWC cluster is a longer term issue. I'm assuming Colgan will be grouped with those schools as it will border Osbourn Park. Another high school will open on that side of the county in a few years. So they are growing, while Fairfax really is not.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:54AM

GAU Wrote:
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> The committee voted 24-1 to "recommend" the four
> region format.
>
>
> To keep the regions roughly equal, Prince William
> has to be split. I think that PWC cluster is a
> longer term issue. I'm assuming Colgan will be
> grouped with those schools as it will border
> Osbourn Park. Another high school will open on
> that side of the county in a few years. So they
> are growing, while Fairfax really is not.

Thanks for the response to my question about whether the four region format is a done deal. I assume that your answer means that it's a done deal for all regions, even 6A North.

I suspect there will be some fluidity in enrollment numbers. As it stands now, 6A north is a total of 27 teams. You do need the 5 PWC teams to balance things out, but if Lee, Stuart, Edison, etc. are as close to the line for 6A as you say, that could provide enough schools in Arlington and Fairfax to have two of the regions, and reunite all of PWC. According to the last report, there are a bit over 300 schools in the VHSL. The right number for each classification is 52, +/- one or two.

I don't know how big the PWC schools are, but would they continue to be 6A size once the new school opens, and their enrollment is drained off a bit? I'd say it's hard to say.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 10:08AM

TRP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The committee voted 24-1 to "recommend" the
> four
> > region format.
> >
> >
> > To keep the regions roughly equal, Prince
> William
> > has to be split. I think that PWC cluster is a
> > longer term issue. I'm assuming Colgan will be
> > grouped with those schools as it will border
> > Osbourn Park. Another high school will open on
> > that side of the county in a few years. So they
> > are growing, while Fairfax really is not.
>
> Thanks for the response to my question about
> whether the four region format is a done deal. I
> assume that your answer means that it's a done
> deal for all regions, even 6A North.
>
> I suspect there will be some fluidity in
> enrollment numbers. As it stands now, 6A north is
> a total of 27 teams. You do need the 5 PWC teams
> to balance things out, but if Lee, Stuart, Edison,
> etc. are as close to the line for 6A as you say,
> that could provide enough schools in Arlington and
> Fairfax to have two of the regions, and reunite
> all of PWC. According to the last report, there
> are a bit over 300 schools in the VHSL. The right
> number for each classification is 52, +/- one or
> two.
>
> I don't know how big the PWC schools are, but
> would they continue to be 6A size once the new
> school opens, and their enrollment is drained off
> a bit? I'd say it's hard to say.


Yes, I assume those PWC schools will stay 6A, as they are among the biggest in the state. I believe Colgan draws from Woodbridge (2nd biggest), Osbourn Park (4th), and Hylton (13th).

The question then is are Lee, Stuart, and Edison growing. Here is an interesting enrollment tool: http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/hsenroll15-16.html. But as they grow, that would bump some of the smaller 6A elsewhere in the state, which could then result in having to pull all of PWC down.

Along with the four regions, they are going to a four year cycle, so schools will only move in the middle of that cycle if they become 5% above or below the ceiling. I think Fairfax is more stable than Prince William and certainly Loudoun, because they don't need to open high schools, they can just reboundary.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 10:17AM

FYI, based on that tool and looking at 2017 when the alignment will be done, all FCPS schools except Lee will be bigger than the smallest 6A school currently (1842 students). That would be enough to crowd out the PWC schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 08, 2015 11:02AM

Smith special teams vs Westfield. Having a great kicker can definitely be an advantage and flip the field. I cannot dispute that point. But here is an example of the Tiger's Beamer Ball this year. Against Ocean Lakes, they not only methodically found the weak spots in their zone defense, stopped them on four 4th down conversions, but they also had 3 major special teams plays that made a very close game not so close.

With the score 20-19 and Ocean Lakes gaining the momentum late in the game and kicking the game tying extra point, 3 rushers converged on their holder & kicker which forced them to rush the place kick. The ball hit the uprights.

With the kick-off Ocean Lakes tried an onsides kick but Smith caught the ball off the bounce and ran the ball down to the 2 yard line and then scored quickly.

The Smith Kick-off, from the 45 due to a penalty, to Lakes was placed perfectly deep in the right corner at the 2 yard line. Ocean Lakes was severly harassed but the player got away by running back into the endzone and tried to get to the edge. But Smith was relentless and converged on him. The Lakes player tried a forward pass for the penalty & 2 point safety.

Game over... Ocean Lakes had the momentum in the game and was about to tie the score with about 3 1/2 min left. Their defense was beginning to hold Smith better and a deep kick-off along with a defensive stand vs an onsides kick was what had been expected but Smith planned for the onsides kick and was ready. On the kick off from the 45, if that kick was through the end zone, Lakes would have had the ball at the 20 and could have been prepared to try to march down the field with a full 2 minutes left to do so. They never had their offense back on the field after that 20-19 score!!!

Ocean Lakes lost 29-19 and didn't know what hit them. (#6 National team ranking in the country sitting at home with about a dozen Div 1 recruits including at least 2 that had transferred from Smith too!)

Again, I think we are in for a great game in Charlottesville. Special Teams will likely play a part Saturday. Westfield's kicking game vs Oscar Smith trying to score off every punt to block, every extra point to block, run backs, etc.

Someone asked what to expect from Oscar Smith. This is not the team of 2013 that relied on a couple of 5 Star recuits. That team would get caught up watching those players make great plays. So, when they played Centerville, they weren't prepared to play sound defense. This team is more like the 2011 team with everyone playing at an exceptionally high level of focus and and execution.

Again, I suspect Westfield to be very similar to Smith which will make for a great game. You won't get any hate from me about Westfield. Y'all have a great program that deserves respect too.

I just hope your fans are better than what I had seen from Centerville over the years. Just please try to act like the fans that attend the typical UVA football games on Saturday in Scott Stadium and keep the jouvenile taunting to your friends and siblings.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 08, 2015 12:26PM

GAU Wrote:
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> FYI, based on that tool and looking at 2017 when
> the alignment will be done, all FCPS schools
> except Lee will be bigger than the smallest 6A
> school currently (1842 students). That would be
> enough to crowd out the PWC schools.

If that is the case, then the PWC schools would be sent south and the two regions that would replace the current Northern Region would be exclusively Fairfax Co, Arlington, and Alexandria.

I've read that Herndon wants out of Concorde. I'd give them that, but I'd align them with South Lakes, a Natural Rival. I've also read that Woodson wants to be aligned with Fairfax (also natural rivals).

There would be 27 schools, and this would be how I'd break up the conferences, with the idea to pair up natural rivals and make them relatively geographically compact:

1. (old Concorde): Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Lake Braddock (new).

2. (the southeastern part of our area): West Potomac, Mt. Vernon, Hayfield, South County, TCW, Edison, West Springfield.

3. (the northeastern part of our area): Yorktown, W-L, McLean, Langley, Madison, Marshall (Madison and Marshall are natural rivals), and TJ (who would move back up to 6A)

4. (the rest): Herndon, South Lakes, Fairfax, Woodson, Falls Church, Stuart, Annandale.

Each of these has 7, except for the Old Concorde, which has 6, meaning fairly balanced in numbers. You could switch a few of the schools in #3 and #4, but any switch should preserve certain natural rivalry pairs: Yorktown and W-L; Langley and McLean, Madison and Marshall; and Fairfax and Woodson (Woodson also has a bit of a rivalry with Annandale).

After this, just pick two of these groupings for one region, and two for the other region.

In 5A, all that is left would be Lee and Wakefield, which could be send to what is now Conference 14 (the five Loudon schools).

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 08, 2015 12:27PM

Smith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Smith special teams vs Westfield. Having a great
> kicker can definitely be an advantage and flip the
> field. I cannot dispute that point. But here is an
> example of the Tiger's Beamer Ball this year.
> Against Ocean Lakes, they not only methodically
> found the weak spots in their zone defense,
> stopped them on four 4th down conversions, but
> they also had 3 major special teams plays that
> made a very close game not so close.
>
> With the score 20-19 and Ocean Lakes gaining the
> momentum late in the game and kicking the game
> tying extra point, 3 rushers converged on their
> holder & kicker which forced them to rush the
> place kick. The ball hit the uprights.
>
> With the kick-off Ocean Lakes tried an onsides
> kick but Smith caught the ball off the bounce and
> ran the ball down to the 2 yard line and then
> scored quickly.
>
> The Smith Kick-off, from the 45 due to a penalty,
> to Lakes was placed perfectly deep in the right
> corner at the 2 yard line. Ocean Lakes was severly
> harassed but the player got away by running back
> into the endzone and tried to get to the edge. But
> Smith was relentless and converged on him. The
> Lakes player tried a forward pass for the penalty
> & 2 point safety.
>
> Game over... Ocean Lakes had the momentum in the
> game and was about to tie the score with about 3
> 1/2 min left. Their defense was beginning to hold
> Smith better and a deep kick-off along with a
> defensive stand vs an onsides kick was what had
> been expected but Smith planned for the onsides
> kick and was ready. On the kick off from the 45,
> if that kick was through the end zone, Lakes would
> have had the ball at the 20 and could have been
> prepared to try to march down the field with a
> full 2 minutes left to do so. They never had their
> offense back on the field after that 20-19
> score!!!
>
> Ocean Lakes lost 29-19 and didn't know what hit
> them. (#6 National team ranking in the country
> sitting at home with about a dozen Div 1 recruits
> including at least 2 that had transferred from
> Smith too!)
>
> Again, I think we are in for a great game in
> Charlottesville. Special Teams will likely play a
> part Saturday. Westfield's kicking game vs Oscar
> Smith trying to score off every punt to block,
> every extra point to block, run backs, etc.
>
> Someone asked what to expect from Oscar Smith.
> This is not the team of 2013 that relied on a
> couple of 5 Star recuits. That team would get
> caught up watching those players make great plays.
> So, when they played Centerville, they weren't
> prepared to play sound defense. This team is more
> like the 2011 team with everyone playing at an
> exceptionally high level of focus and and
> execution.
>
> Again, I suspect Westfield to be very similar to
> Smith which will make for a great game. You won't
> get any hate from me about Westfield. Y'all have a
> great program that deserves respect too.
>
> I just hope your fans are better than what I had
> seen from Centerville over the years. Just please
> try to act like the fans that attend the typical
> UVA football games on Saturday in Scott Stadium
> and keep the jouvenile taunting to your friends
> and siblings.

I don't think you will see much in the way of trick plays/onside kicks from Westfield. They are usually very conservative. The only thing OS will need to worry about is honestly I don't think anyone knows who will start and play at QB for most of the game. I assume now it will #17 but who knows? I just question whether Westfield will be able to run at all on OS. South County defense was a bit over-rated all year it seems and I guarantee #24 is not getting 250 yards on OS.

Re: K/P #5 - he actually is rated #1 in his class in some rankings.
http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/national-rating-system/kickers/2017
"Brian showed once again that he is the top combo prospect in the country at the 2015 National Scholarship Camp."
From the games I was at this year he gave Westfield a huge field position edge in the kicking and punting game. His play against SoCo was as good as I have seen from him. He definitely rose to the occasion.

Every team has obnoxious fans but I find Westfield crowds are usually very sporting and gentleman-like. Except for a few. Don't really pay attention to the kids.

Curious why you think kids transferred away from Oscar Smith? This is their 4 title appearance in 8 years - you would think that would attract players.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: December 08, 2015 01:09PM

What about the few Oscar smith fans that decided to be right in the middle of the Cville fans. Taunting. Please. Kids will be kids. Want them to go the losing teams fans a hug??

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Sparrow ()
Date: December 08, 2015 01:29PM

TRP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FYI, based on that tool and looking at 2017
> when
> > the alignment will be done, all FCPS schools
> > except Lee will be bigger than the smallest 6A
> > school currently (1842 students). That would be
> > enough to crowd out the PWC schools.
>
> If that is the case, then the PWC schools would be
> sent south and the two regions that would replace
> the current Northern Region would be exclusively
> Fairfax Co, Arlington, and Alexandria.
>
> I've read that Herndon wants out of Concorde. I'd
> give them that, but I'd align them with South
> Lakes, a Natural Rival. I've also read that
> Woodson wants to be aligned with Fairfax (also
> natural rivals).
>
> There would be 27 schools, and this would be how
> I'd break up the conferences, with the idea to
> pair up natural rivals and make them relatively
> geographically compact:
>
> 1. (old Concorde): Centreville, Chantilly,
> Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Lake Braddock
> (new).
>
> 2. (the southeastern part of our area): West
> Potomac, Mt. Vernon, Hayfield, South County, TCW,
> Edison, West Springfield.
>
> 3. (the northeastern part of our area):
> Yorktown, W-L, McLean, Langley, Madison, Marshall
> (Madison and Marshall are natural rivals), and TJ
> (who would move back up to 6A)
>
> 4. (the rest): Herndon, South Lakes, Fairfax,
> Woodson, Falls Church, Stuart, Annandale.
>
> Each of these has 7, except for the Old Concorde,
> which has 6, meaning fairly balanced in numbers.
> You could switch a few of the schools in #3 and
> #4, but any switch should preserve certain natural
> rivalry pairs: Yorktown and W-L; Langley and
> McLean, Madison and Marshall; and Fairfax and
> Woodson (Woodson also has a bit of a rivalry with
> Annandale).
>
> After this, just pick two of these groupings for
> one region, and two for the other region.
>
> In 5A, all that is left would be Lee and
> Wakefield, which could be send to what is now
> Conference 14 (the five Loudon schools).

This is a total mess the way you have it lined up. How can you say geographically compact but have JEB Stuart having to possibly travel to Herndon and South Lakes?

Then only keep Wakefield and Lee in 5A but have them travel to 5 Loudoun Schools?

I agree that Herndon shouldn't be in the Concorde but it wouldn't be any better for them in another conference.

Also, not being in the same conference hasn't stopped Woodson and Fairfax from playing each other the past three years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 01:40PM

Sparrow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> TRP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GAU Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > FYI, based on that tool and looking at 2017
> > when
> > > the alignment will be done, all FCPS schools
> > > except Lee will be bigger than the smallest
> 6A
> > > school currently (1842 students). That would
> be
> > > enough to crowd out the PWC schools.
> >
> > If that is the case, then the PWC schools would
> be
> > sent south and the two regions that would
> replace
> > the current Northern Region would be
> exclusively
> > Fairfax Co, Arlington, and Alexandria.
> >
> > I've read that Herndon wants out of Concorde.
> I'd
> > give them that, but I'd align them with South
> > Lakes, a Natural Rival. I've also read that
> > Woodson wants to be aligned with Fairfax (also
> > natural rivals).
> >
> > There would be 27 schools, and this would be
> how
> > I'd break up the conferences, with the idea to
> > pair up natural rivals and make them relatively
> > geographically compact:
> >
> > 1. (old Concorde): Centreville, Chantilly,
> > Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Lake Braddock
> > (new).
> >
> > 2. (the southeastern part of our area): West
> > Potomac, Mt. Vernon, Hayfield, South County,
> TCW,
> > Edison, West Springfield.
> >
> > 3. (the northeastern part of our area):
> > Yorktown, W-L, McLean, Langley, Madison,
> Marshall
> > (Madison and Marshall are natural rivals), and
> TJ
> > (who would move back up to 6A)
> >
> > 4. (the rest): Herndon, South Lakes, Fairfax,
> > Woodson, Falls Church, Stuart, Annandale.
> >
> > Each of these has 7, except for the Old
> Concorde,
> > which has 6, meaning fairly balanced in numbers.
>
> > You could switch a few of the schools in #3 and
> > #4, but any switch should preserve certain
> natural
> > rivalry pairs: Yorktown and W-L; Langley and
> > McLean, Madison and Marshall; and Fairfax and
> > Woodson (Woodson also has a bit of a rivalry
> with
> > Annandale).
> >
> > After this, just pick two of these groupings
> for
> > one region, and two for the other region.
> >
> > In 5A, all that is left would be Lee and
> > Wakefield, which could be send to what is now
> > Conference 14 (the five Loudon schools).
>
> This is a total mess the way you have it lined up.
> How can you say geographically compact but have
> JEB Stuart having to possibly travel to Herndon
> and South Lakes?
>
> Then only keep Wakefield and Lee in 5A but have
> them travel to 5 Loudoun Schools?
>
> I agree that Herndon shouldn't be in the Concorde
> but it wouldn't be any better for them in another
> conference.
>
> Also, not being in the same conference hasn't
> stopped Woodson and Fairfax from playing each
> other the past three years.


Lee and Wakefield travelling to Loudoun is a result of their size. It is possible they could be the only 5A schools in Fairfax/Arlington and thus would have to be aligned with Loudoun.

But still, this is a small area – travel isn’t an issue. Stuart to Herndon - big deal.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 08, 2015 02:02PM

GAU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sparrow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TRP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GAU Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > FYI, based on that tool and looking at 2017
> > > when
> > > > the alignment will be done, all FCPS
> schools
> > > > except Lee will be bigger than the smallest
> > 6A
> > > > school currently (1842 students). That
> would
> > be
> > > > enough to crowd out the PWC schools.
> > >
> > > If that is the case, then the PWC schools
> would
> > be
> > > sent south and the two regions that would
> > replace
> > > the current Northern Region would be
> > exclusively
> > > Fairfax Co, Arlington, and Alexandria.
> > >
> > > I've read that Herndon wants out of Concorde.
>
> > I'd
> > > give them that, but I'd align them with South
> > > Lakes, a Natural Rival. I've also read that
> > > Woodson wants to be aligned with Fairfax
> (also
> > > natural rivals).
> > >
> > > There would be 27 schools, and this would be
> > how
> > > I'd break up the conferences, with the idea
> to
> > > pair up natural rivals and make them
> relatively
> > > geographically compact:
> > >
> > > 1. (old Concorde): Centreville, Chantilly,
> > > Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Lake Braddock
> > > (new).
> > >
> > > 2. (the southeastern part of our area): West
> > > Potomac, Mt. Vernon, Hayfield, South County,
> > TCW,
> > > Edison, West Springfield.
> > >
> > > 3. (the northeastern part of our area):
> > > Yorktown, W-L, McLean, Langley, Madison,
> > Marshall
> > > (Madison and Marshall are natural rivals),
> and
> > TJ
> > > (who would move back up to 6A)
> > >
> > > 4. (the rest): Herndon, South Lakes,
> Fairfax,
> > > Woodson, Falls Church, Stuart, Annandale.
> > >
> > > Each of these has 7, except for the Old
> > Concorde,
> > > which has 6, meaning fairly balanced in
> numbers.
> >
> > > You could switch a few of the schools in #3
> and
> > > #4, but any switch should preserve certain
> > natural
> > > rivalry pairs: Yorktown and W-L; Langley and
> > > McLean, Madison and Marshall; and Fairfax and
> > > Woodson (Woodson also has a bit of a rivalry
> > with
> > > Annandale).
> > >
> > > After this, just pick two of these groupings
> > for
> > > one region, and two for the other region.
> > >
> > > In 5A, all that is left would be Lee and
> > > Wakefield, which could be send to what is now
> > > Conference 14 (the five Loudon schools).
> >
> > This is a total mess the way you have it lined
> up.
> > How can you say geographically compact but have
> > JEB Stuart having to possibly travel to Herndon
> > and South Lakes?
> >
> > Then only keep Wakefield and Lee in 5A but have
> > them travel to 5 Loudoun Schools?
> >
> > I agree that Herndon shouldn't be in the
> Concorde
> > but it wouldn't be any better for them in
> another
> > conference.
> >
> > Also, not being in the same conference hasn't
> > stopped Woodson and Fairfax from playing each
> > other the past three years.
>
>
> Lee and Wakefield travelling to Loudoun is a
> result of their size. It is possible they could be
> the only 5A schools in Fairfax/Arlington and thus
> would have to be aligned with Loudoun.
>
> But still, this is a small area – travel isn’t
> an issue. Stuart to Herndon - big deal.

Thank you, GAU, for the defense. It's not perfect, but it's not a mess. If one is so concerned about Stuart, we could put them with the Yorktown group, but the problem with that is that gives that group 8 schools, and the group they leave, 6. I'd much prefer to have the conferences balanced out as much as possible. Stuart gets Annandale and Falls Church in this alignment, and those schools are pretty close.

And, I'd still rather put natural rivals in the same group, when possible. If you do that, for football, you can follow the scheduling convention of having the rivals play the last game of their respective season. If one team, or both, are having a bad season, and don't have anything to play for competitively, they will still get up for their rival, regardless of records.

Finally, yes, Lee and Wakefield to Loudon isn't ideal, but it's a function of them being the only 5A teams left in Arlington/Fairfax under those projected enrollements. It's much worse for George Mason High School (in the City of Falls Church). They have to travel all the way out to the Shenandoah Valley for their opponents.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: December 08, 2015 02:12PM

If both Lee and Wakefield are the only true Northern Virginia schools that would be left in 5A, then they have no choice but to travel to Loudoun to play Briar Woods, Broad Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge and Tuscarora.

The travel would be for only 3 or 2 games depending on the home and away schedule and they could still maintain their rivalries with the other schools that moved up to 6A.

If that were the case, I would realign the "districts" as so.

Concorde - Centreville, Chantilly, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon, Robinson

Patriot - Fairfax, Oakton, Woodson, Lake Braddock, West Springfield, South County
Annandale

Liberty - Langley, Madison, McLean, W&L, Yorktown, Marshall, T.C. Williams

National - West Potomac, Mount Vernon, Hayfield, Edison, Falls Church, Stuart, TJ

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 08, 2015 02:15PM

That's an interesting alignment proposal you had. I like it.

The person objecting to Stuart having to travel to Herndon under this hypothetical line up needs to relax. It's better than what we have now, with Hayfield having to travel to South Lakes. McLean and Langley aren't exactly close to Hayfield, either. And, having the conferences about the same size is an important goal, if it can be achieved. Of course, this is hypothetical, and assumes that the next alignment will move TJ, Marshall, and Edison up to 6A.

WIth that set of schools in 6A, your #1 and #2 are perfect. You could consider placing Falls Church and Stuart with group #3, and switching Madison and Marshall over to #4, though the resulting conference #3 (Yorktown, W-L, McLean, Langley, TJ, Stuart, and Falls Church) wouldn't be as strong as the other three in football.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 02:30PM

And for football, it really doesn't matter how they are aligned, because the region uses an overall playoff from a point system. And if you have a region of 15 schools, do you need a playoff for each conference in basketball, baseball, etc.? You could just take the top four from each conference to a region playoff rather than having a conference tournament for no purpose but to seed teams. Shortens the season too.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 02:57PM

If all those Fairfax schools move up, 5A gets interesting.

Lee and Wakefield would join Briar Woods, Broad Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge, and Tuscarora - but that's only enough for one conference. You would have to go to Prince William, Stafford, and Spotsylvania to make the rest of one region of 12-15 schools.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 08, 2015 03:05PM

GAU Wrote:
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> If all those Fairfax schools move up, 5A gets
> interesting.
>
> Lee and Wakefield would join Briar Woods, Broad
> Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge, and Tuscarora -
> but that's only enough for one conference. You
> would have to go to Prince William, Stafford, and
> Spotsylvania to make the rest of one region of
> 12-15 schools.

I think you meant to say that would not be enough for one "region." Seven schools are enough for one conference. I think the new VHSL alignment will see two conferences in each region.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 03:14PM

TRP Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If all those Fairfax schools move up, 5A gets
> > interesting.
> >
> > Lee and Wakefield would join Briar Woods, Broad
> > Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge, and Tuscarora
> -
> > but that's only enough for one conference. You
> > would have to go to Prince William, Stafford,
> and
> > Spotsylvania to make the rest of one region of
> > 12-15 schools.
>
> I think you meant to say that would not be enough
> for one "region." Seven schools are enough for
> one conference. I think the new VHSL alignment
> will see two conferences in each region.


Yes, I believe that is what I said:

Fairfax, Arlington, and Loudoun = Conference A
Prince William, Stafford, 95 Corridor = Conference B
Conference A + Confernce B = Region 1

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: First World Problems ()
Date: December 08, 2015 03:15PM

For those lamenting a school like Hayfield or Wakefield traveling to Briar Woods...

You do realize that in a lot of parts of the country the NEAREST school to play is in the next county, right?

For some the arch-rival might be 30-40 minutes away or farther. Not uncommon at all. My wife's family is continually astonished that we have a school system of 25 high schools. Theirs is 1 HS, 1 MS, 1 ES. They travel across regions of the state for games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 08, 2015 03:21PM

First World Problems Wrote:
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> For those lamenting a school like Hayfield or
> Wakefield traveling to Briar Woods...
>
> You do realize that in a lot of parts of the
> country the NEAREST school to play is in the next
> county, right?
>
> For some the arch-rival might be 30-40 minutes
> away or farther. Not uncommon at all. My wife's
> family is continually astonished that we have a
> school system of 25 high schools. Theirs is 1 HS,
> 1 MS, 1 ES. They travel across regions of the
> state for games.


In a lot of parts of THIS STATE even. This region is unique, and I think many here are getting frustrated with the constant changes proposed by the VHSL. North just wants to be left alone to do their thing because they are a compact but populated area. But it isn't like that pretty much anywhere else in the state, and they are trying to tweak things to better accomodate those others. In the end, it isn't too much of a hassle. In 6A, Northern Virginia is half of the schools, so they can have one of two regions, or two of four, no big deal.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: December 08, 2015 03:39PM

First World Problems Wrote:
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> For those lamenting a school like Hayfield or
> Wakefield traveling to Briar Woods...
>
> You do realize that in a lot of parts of the
> country the NEAREST school to play is in the next
> county, right?
>
> For some the arch-rival might be 30-40 minutes
> away or farther. Not uncommon at all. My wife's
> family is continually astonished that we have a
> school system of 25 high schools. Theirs is 1 HS,
> 1 MS, 1 ES. They travel across regions of the
> state for games.


Yup. In Texas, 2-3 hour bus rides each way are not unheard of.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: December 08, 2015 07:00PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Smith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Smith special teams vs Westfield. Having a
> great
> > kicker can definitely be an advantage and flip
> the
> > field. I cannot dispute that point.

The Westfield/Oscar Smith 2007 game came down to kicking/punting. Like this year, Westfield had great kicking/punting. Oscar Smith's was nowhere near Westfield's.

The rest of the teams were about even or advantage OS.
>
> I don't think you will see much in the way of
> trick plays/onside kicks from Westfield. They are
> usually very conservative.

For kicking, yes, but, on 4th downs near midfield, Scanlon often punts with an option run/pass.

> The only thing OS will
> need to worry about is honestly I don't think
> anyone knows who will start and play at QB for
> most of the game. I assume now it will #17 but
> who knows?

Agreed.

> I just question whether Westfield will
> be able to run at all on OS. South County defense
> was a bit over-rated all year it seems and I
> guarantee #24 is not getting 250 yards on OS.
>

Agreed. Likely a more balanced to passing offense.

>
> Re: K/P #5 - he actually is rated #1 in his class
> in some rankings.
> http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/national-rating
> -system/kickers/2017
> "Brian showed once again that he is the top
> combo prospect in the country at the 2015 National
> Scholarship Camp."

> From the games I was at this year he gave
> Westfield a huge field position edge in the
> kicking and punting game. His play against SoCo
> was as good as I have seen from him. He
> definitely rose to the occasion.


Agreed. Next man up in Westfield's continuing sequence of great punter/kickers.

And... Scanlon gives Westfield additional 4th down punt/run/pass options. If he punts, he's got good control to the corners/out of bounds.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: December 08, 2015 08:53PM

Westfield always has good punters and kickers. It's the coaching (again)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 08, 2015 09:37PM

Smith out Transfers,


Coach Morgan talked about the "Smith Way" when they defeated Indian River that had at least 2 of his former players transferred on their team as well as a couple of the better players from other schools too. I am assuming here but I believe the "Smith Way" he is referring to is the old school coaching ideas that have been successful for the legends like Coach Lombardi, Bob Knight, and Mike Krzyzewski. Good players become great by becoming better men first. AND, By doing all the little things perfectly first and to the point they become second nature, the hard things become surprisingly simple to achieve.

The problem is that with some bad influences in the head of some star players, the goal of becoming great becomes greater than the process to get there. Some let their friends tell them they don't need to put up with Coach Morgan's tough and demanding requirements. Others listen to their arrogant parents that see $$$ and an NFL career despite the long odds against them. Last are the Middle School Club Coaches that over reach and think they are talent agents / handlers. In any case they attempt to back the coach in a corner and threaten to leave if Johnny doesn't start, or play running back, etc, etc, etc. Guess what, Coach Morgan knows that player is too disruptive to make his team a family and highly successful. So, he doesn't play the game their way but he still offers support for them if he can help, even if they leave!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 08, 2015 10:24PM

Smith Wrote:
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> Smith out Transfers,
>
>
> Coach Morgan talked about the "Smith Way" when
> they defeated Indian River that had at least 2 of
> his former players transferred on their team as
> well as a couple of the better players from other
> schools too. I am assuming here but I believe the
> "Smith Way" he is referring to is the old school
> coaching ideas that have been successful for the
> legends like Coach Lombardi, Bob Knight, and Mike
> Krzyzewski. Good players become great by becoming
> better men first. AND, By doing all the little
> things perfectly first and to the point they
> become second nature, the hard things become
> surprisingly simple to achieve.

That's good to hear. No wonder OS is always at the top.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Scanlons Pop ()
Date: December 09, 2015 06:37AM

That is an inspiring account of the "Smith Way", Coach Morgan is to be commended, the Program Sounds a lot like Westfield and Coach Simmons "Way" the Stage is Set for a Great Game. Congrats to both teams for making the Final!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Crock o shit ()
Date: December 09, 2015 09:18AM

Until Ocean Lakes came Oscar Smith was the number one recruiting machine of all middle school and high school boys in the whole beach area flouting the
rules and Westfield is allowing a bunch of underage drinkers to play on its team wow really great examples

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Coaching Openings ()
Date: December 09, 2015 09:23AM

So far the following schools are looking for Head Coaches...
Stuart
Fairfax
Mount Vernon
TC Williams (rumor)

Which is the best job?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: agreed with crock o ()
Date: December 09, 2015 10:53AM

Until Ocean Lakes came Oscar Smith was the number one recruiting machine of all middle school and high school boys in the whole beach area flouting the
rules and Westfield is allowing a bunch of underage drinkers to play on its team wow really great examples

-------------

Agree with this post....bunch of sanctimonious crap about both Smith and Westfield - both schools flouting and breaking rules for many years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:04AM

Coaching Openings Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So far the following schools are looking for Head
> Coaches...
> Stuart
> Fairfax
> Mount Vernon
> TC Williams (rumor)
>
> Which is the best job?

I realize I might be biased, but if you are considering only the three confirmed openings, it's Fairfax, and by a long shot. If TCW is in the mix, I'd still give it to Fairfax, but by a smaller margin.

I realize that Coach Simonds (outgoing HC at Fairfax) has come in for criticism on these boards, but I really think he was a good head coach for most of his career at Fairfax. However, I would definitely say that he did not do a good coaching job this year (I'd think that even he would say that). And, I think that the coaching was the main reason for Fairfax's bad season. When you consider what the 2014 JV team did last year (2014) reeling off four consecutive wins to end their season, 62-0 over McLean, 54-15 over Marshall, 13-6 over Stone Bridge, and 34-0 over South Lakes, this year's varsity team should have been better. However, they weren't as well prepared for games as they should have been. The offensive scheme really didn't suit them, and there was some baffling in-game play calling which lead to a few of those losses. Talent wise, that team should have had a record at worst, 3-7, and at best, 5-5 (which would have been enough to make the playoffs).

If you look beyond that, Fairfax has some talent and depth. There is still a lot of interest in football at the school, and unlike Stuart or Mt Vernon, no shortage of kids interested. In fact, I'd say one problem this year was that there were TOO MANY kids on the team. It's a good situation for a new coach, because this year's JV team went 5-3. and they were competitive in all of those losses except Madison. There is a lot of talent on the JV team, which is mostly class of 2018. The Class of 2017 is relatively thin in terms of numbers, includes a talented receiver/linebacker, a talented running back who also played defensive secondary, and our best offensive lineman from this year's varsity team, who should anchor next year's line. The class of 2018 is even more talented. Though some of those kids dressed varsity, they were mostly kept together on the JV, so they should be a good unit for the next two years.

Fairfax also has good facilities, though Mt. Vernon's aren't bad. Fairfax also has good community support. Attendance dwindled late in the season, but there were still decent crowds at the games, considering fans were watching a 1-9 team.

For all of these reasons, I'd say Fairfax is the best job among the current openings.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Parent12 ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:29AM

1) Fairfax
2) Mount Vernon (easy schedule should help)
3) T.C. Williams (unreal expectations. Remember the Titans was a movie)

87) JEB Stuart (their soccer team won two games)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:33AM

Parent12 Wrote:
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> 1) Fairfax
> 2) Mount Vernon (easy schedule should help)
> 3) T.C. Williams (unreal expectations. Remember
> the Titans was a movie)
>
> 87) JEB Stuart (their soccer team won two games)

You think Mt. Vernon has an easier schedule than the others? They play Lake Braddock and South County, don't forget.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Frank the Tank ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:34AM

agreed with crock o Wrote:
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> Until Ocean Lakes came Oscar Smith was the number
> one recruiting machine of all middle school and
> high school boys in the whole beach area flouting
> the
> rules and Westfield is allowing a bunch of
> underage drinkers to play on its team wow really
> great examples
>
> -------------
>
> Agree with this post....bunch of sanctimonious
> crap about both Smith and Westfield - both schools
> flouting and breaking rules for many years.

You all know that there is underage drinking on every HS football team. The WF players were just the dumb ones that got caught. Enlighten me as to which "rules" the schools have been breaking for many years please...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Parent12 ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:44AM

T.C. Has the hardest, Stuart the easiest, but Mount Vernon (for a talented D6) should easily win five games.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 09, 2015 11:58AM

Mt Vernon and TCW have the same schedule.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hey dumb ass ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:19PM

agreed with crock o Wrote:
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> Until Ocean Lakes came Oscar Smith was the number
> one recruiting machine of all middle school and
> high school boys in the whole beach area flouting
> the
> rules and Westfield is allowing a bunch of
> underage drinkers to play on its team wow really
> great examples
>
> -------------
>
> Agree with this post....bunch of sanctimonious
> crap about both Smith and Westfield - both schools
> flouting and breaking rules for many years.

I'm curious as to how suspending 6 players, 5 bring starters, is flouting the rules. Actually, there has been success despite following the rules. It is a great example, as lessons were learned by both the kids who got suspended and the ones who didn't.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 1.5 GPA ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:27PM

There is no doubt some schools go easy on the academic requirements, especially since the eligbility period is the semester BEFORE. This mean seniors who don't play a winter or spring sport don't have to do anything during the fall semester.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I agree with the poster ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:36PM

Yep, I hear through good sources that Westfield football program violations have been swept under the rug for years. Guess winning is indeed everything for some people.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 6A All region selections ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:50PM

6A Offense

Position First Name Last Name School HT WT YR


Center Riley Newell Centreville 5'10" 250 12
Off Lineman Aaron Lenhardt Lake Braddock 6'5 250 12
Off Lineman Nick Bernacchi Robinson 6'3 270 11
Off Lineman DAVID KROLL S. Lakes 6'5 315 11
Off Lineman Rodrigo Cordova Dominquez Westfield 5'10 247 12
Tight End Andrew Park Lake Braddock 6'5" 230 11
Receiver Zac Kerxton Battlefield 6'0" 180 12
Receiver Desmond Woodson Osbourn 12
Receiver Dillon Spalding South County 6'3" 205 10
Running Back Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock 5'11" 190 11
Running Back Da'Jon Lee Robinson 6'2" 220 12
Running Back Demarcus Ramsey South County 6'0" 225 12
Quarterback Peter Muskett West Springfield 6'2" 185 11
O Util Player Tyler Scanlon Westfield 6'6" 200 12
Player of the Yr Tyler Scanlon Westfield 6'6" 200 12
Kick Returner Tavon Greene Westfield 5'10" 156 12
Place Kicker Brian Delaney Westfield 5'10 201 11


6A NORTH FIRST TEAM DEFENSE

Position First Name Last Name School HT WT YR

Def Lineman Saif Khan South County 6'0" 250 12
Def Lineman Chris Leo Westfield 6'0" 295 12
Def End Jay Aiello Westfield 6'0 209 12
Def End Christian Brooks Centreville 6'5" 250 12
Linebacker Kevin Petrillo Westfield 6'0" 192 11
Linebacker Josh King Battlefield 10
Linebacker Donnie Warter Robinson 5'10" 180 11
Linebacker Kevin Allen South County 6'0" 225 12
Defensive Back Collin Parker Battlefield 6'2" 195 12
Defensive Back Abe Mansaray Lake Braddock 5'6" 165 11
Defensive Back Kyle Foley South County 5'9" 175 12
Defensive Back Ceneca Espinoza Jr. W & L 6'1" 205 12
D Util Player Kyle Richborg Centreville 5'9" 180 12
D Player of the Yr Jay Aiello Westfield 6'0" 209 12
Punter Brian Delaney Westfield 5'10 201 11
Punt Returner Zac Kerxton Battlefield 6'0" 180 12
Coach of the Year Kyle Simmons Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:51PM

Schedules next year should be the same as this year, except home and away reversed. Here are next year's schedules for the teams with open positions:

TCW:
v, Jefferson
v. Oakton
@ Westfield
v. Mount Vernon
v. South County
@ Lake Braddock
v. West Springfield
@ West Potomac
@ v. Annandale
W.T. Woodson

Mt. Vernon:
@ Stuart
@ West Springfield
v. Jefferson
@ T.C. Williams
v. Wakefield
@ Annandale
v. South County
v. Woodson
@ Lake Braddock
v. West Potomac

Stuart:
v. Mount Vernon
@ Herndon
@ Annandale
v. Lee
@ Edison
v. Jefferson
@ Wakefield
v. Potomac Falls
@ Marshall
v. Falls Church

Fairfax:
@ Herndon
v. Centreville
v. W.T. Woodson
@ Yorktown
v. Langley
@ Hayfield
v. Washington-Lee
@ Madison
@ McLean
v. South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: December 09, 2015 12:53PM

Coaching Openings Wrote:
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> So far the following schools are looking for Head
> Coaches...
> Stuart
> Fairfax
> Mount Vernon
> TC Williams (rumor)
>
> Which is the best job?


Fairfax has to be looked at as the best job of those four schools. It's not even close.

Then T.C. Williams, Mt. Vernon and a distant fourth would be Stuart.

T.C. Williams has at least two winning seasons in 10 years and has never gone 0-10 or 1-9 during that time.

Mt. Vernon has had one winning season in the last 10 years and gone 0-10 twice and 1-9 during that time.

Poor JEB Stuart has gone 0-10 twice, 1-9 three times, 2-8 three times and had one winning season at 6-4 during those 10 years.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: idotsall ()
Date: December 09, 2015 01:41PM

ANONYMOUS POSTER: I agree with the ANONYMOUS poster Wrote:
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> Yep, I hear through good ANONYMOUS sources that UNSPECIFIED Westfield
> football program violations have been swept under
> the rug for years.

Damn! That good enough for me. Guilty as charged!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Non Concorde guy ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:03PM

Yes it is well known in the coaching/admin circles that Westfield has run a shady program for some time now. Sorry to hear that...

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Is that you? ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:11PM

Non Concorde guy Wrote:
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> Yes it is well known in the coaching/admin circles
> that Westfield has run a shady program for some
> time now. Sorry to hear that...


Coach Panoni? Is that you?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Former Westfield student ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:19PM

Unfortunately it is true even I have to admit there was a lot of crazy stuff That went on in the Westfield athletics department

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: concerned citizen of sports ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:27PM

Wow shouldn't formal investigation start up, sorry to hear that our northern region is being represented by a shady program.....guess I'll just keep on rooting for my team who always loses each year but does so with dignity and ethics

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield supporters ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:34PM

Stop with this, the allegations in previous years were never proven. Time to stop dredging up these past things, they are in the past.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:35PM

I think were starting to smell sour grapes now that Westfield and Smith are left standing. Ponder this:

If you start thinking every around you stinks, you might just check your own pants. It might just be you that has the poopy diaper!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield supporters ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:37PM

I agree, leave it alone. All those allegations over the years with Oscar Smith have never been proven either.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Productive ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:45PM

All of our nations most productive Citizens spending someone else's time and Money on some board talking about Honesty and integrity and poopy Diapers!

Point one and four point Back...Let the Kids have their Game, they earned it!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:46PM

Sorry I can talk either:

I think were starting to smell sour grapes now that Westfield and Smith are left standing. Ponder this:

If you start thinking everyone around you stinks, you might just check your own pants. It might just be you that has the poopy diaper!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: this is interesting isn't it ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:53PM

New to this board - sorry to hear that the Westfield and Oscar Smith programs have taint around them....why doesn't the VHSL do something?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Taint ()
Date: December 09, 2015 02:57PM

More like Envy. Those Kids all worked Hard to get where they are... leave it to the Adults to polish the TAINT!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: December 09, 2015 03:06PM

Non Concorde guy Wrote:
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> Yes it is well known in the coaching/admin circles
> that Westfield has run a shady program for some
> time now. Sorry to hear that...


What a joke. Please provide details or be quiet. Probably the best and cleanest program in NoVA.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: The truth hurts ()
Date: December 09, 2015 03:41PM

Sorry to hear the dyed in the wool Westfield fans let this stuff go on year after year. Something has to stop. Glad I moved away from that area.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I heard something else ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:00PM

Glad to see others are coming up and talking about the reality. I heard that the dixie cup episode is actually just the tip of the iceberg at Westfield. Wonder what else Westfield is covering up? Was thinking about moving my family out that way westward but maybe not now from what I have heard....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield cut a deal ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:11PM

I understand they cut a deal with the VA authorities and admitted to the Dixie cup episode so they would not have to have a much bigger penalty around what really happened that would have put the season in peril.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: 4wwDp ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:19PM

Westfield cut a deal Wrote:
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> I understand they cut a deal with the VA
> authorities and admitted to the Dixie cup episode
> so they would not have to have a much bigger
> penalty around what really happened that would
> have put the season in peril.

This is just the same disgruntled Centreville fan that mucked up this thread a few pages ago. Same IP, same verbiage, same MO. Give it up bro.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I root for a team further east ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:25PM

Sorry but I hate Centreville. I root for a team closer to the Potomac River. Keep guessing. Also sorry to hear what I am hearing about Westfield from many sources.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: jcD3x ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:38PM

I root for a team further east Wrote:
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> Sorry but I hate Centreville. I root for a team
> closer to the Potomac River. Keep guessing. Also
> sorry to hear what I am hearing about Westfield
> from many sources.

Sure. And I'm the GHOST of Francis Dall.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:47PM

Sorry but I hate Centreville. I root for a team closer to the Potomac River. Keep guessing. Also sorry to hear what I am hearing about Westfield from many sources.

_____________________________________

But the same IP, what's your excuse for that?

Enjoy watching Westfield at states, you know, the program that followed FCPS rules and suspended 5 of the 6 players drinking and kicked the other off the team.

Yep, they should be ashamed of themselves for such a cover up!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: get off his back ()
Date: December 09, 2015 04:49PM

I have no dog in the fight but I hear the same rumors about Westfield too....maybe you Westfield fans should not come off as so thin skinned and sanctimonious. You just invite this kind of stuff.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: TMbp7 ()
Date: December 09, 2015 05:02PM

get off his back Wrote:
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> I have no dog in the fight but I hear the same
> rumors about Westfield too....maybe you Westfield
> fans should not come off as so thin skinned and
> sanctimonious. You just invite this kind of
> stuff.

Sanctimonious. That word has a familiar ring. I bet this was you a few weeks ago:

Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: what is really sorry ()
Date: October 21, 2015 03:29PM

Sanctimonious Westfield fans always talking about consistency and the like but have to admit they fail to show up in the real big games at the ends of seasons. Sorry just the facts.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: yep was me ()
Date: December 09, 2015 05:10PM

Wow now you are after me too just like the other guy. Sure I wrote that some weeks ago. Again like I said Westfield fans are very thin skinned. Why? Don't be such wimps.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: been watching ()
Date: December 09, 2015 05:34PM

Been watching this thread and does appear to be a troll that we have seen before. But maybe just as worse I agree it looks like the Westfield fans are playing this too over protective. What are you worried about?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: December 09, 2015 05:59PM

Every team deals with these issues every year. Nothing knew. You get caught its either 15 or 30 days for first occurrence. After that your done. There is always speculation about a few.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: STATES ()
Date: December 09, 2015 10:37PM

You guys are all pathetic this is highschool sports, not the nfl there is no scandels if something is done against the law it will be taken care of in the right manor. Westfield deserves to be in the state championship take your sorry asses off the computer and go tuck your kids to sleep and pray they ever get to start in a program like westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Tilly Tittans ()
Date: December 09, 2015 10:47PM

I agree with STATES post 100%. There is nothing that gets brushed under the rug in this day and age with all the media access, not a chance. Westfield has caught lighting in a bottle and they are playing great football. The question is do they have 48 quality minutes left? Tune in Saturday....
I think they DO!!!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: MaxPreps Top 10 Game of the Week ()
Date: December 10, 2015 05:24PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Max Fail ()
Date: December 10, 2015 08:37PM

Clearly someone was rushed to push a story, link above, Players to watch, Jack Clancy was lost Week 5 and has not played Since. Credibility, not much Max Preps.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: December 11, 2015 11:29AM

Bet alot of posters on this string would like if their teams went 12-1, 13-1, etc. every year. GO BULLDOGS!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: I am a bit envious ()
Date: December 11, 2015 03:45PM

Westfield has some good fortune in terms of a solid base of athletes year after year, but they also have been able to keep coaches together. I know some parents complain about a few but that is always going to happen. A very, very solid program. Their kids always seem to be prepared.

I am not going to say what concorde aka conference 5 school my son goes to, but you have to tip your hat to the guys running the program...very good results year in and year out.

I hope they bring home the title...back to Nova...back to the old concorde.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield's Future? ()
Date: December 11, 2015 04:00PM

I know that they have a couple of freshman on varsity and an undefeated JV team this year but what will they look like next year without a lot of defensive starters?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: December 11, 2015 04:28PM

They will be at least OK and probably better than that. The JV defense was also extremely good this past season, and the offense will have R.Johnson back at QB, Frimpong and Eckert at receiver, and possibly Asante at RB (Frosh this year, getting snaps late in the game throughout the playoffs). Asante needs to get stronger to withstand a full year of varsity and learn more, but I believe he is the RB of the future for the Bulldogs unless someone else senior to him steps up.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 11, 2015 05:45PM

They will be okay but this defense they had this year was the best they've had in awhile, probably ever.

Those aren't my words but those of a few Westfield coaches.

Might be sometime before we see another as good.

Hope they have one more left in the tank for tomorrow.....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfields future ()
Date: December 11, 2015 06:20PM

I guess the defense will be fine considering JV allowed 18 points all year and shut out 6 teams. The freshmen seem to be a really gifted group on offense. That mixed with a good coaching staff will always make Westfield a NOVA contender. Robinson looks like they will remain good and South Lakes seem like they are on an upward trend. Idk about the other schools like Centreville tho, all 3 teams were mediocre this year.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Quiet ()
Date: December 12, 2015 05:42PM

The thread is pretty quiet today considering it's actually game day!

5A game
Highland Springs: 27
Stonebridge: 7

6A game at half:
Westfield: 21
Oscar Smith: 14

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Westfield Wins! ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:16PM

Westfield wins 49-42 in triple OT. Amazing how the team has rebounded following that disastrous game against South Lakes.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: congrats from a Cville Fan ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:17PM

Even though I usually root big time against Westfield, congrats to them for beating the beach team Oscar Smith and showing again the dominance of the Concorde district in the state of Virginia.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Random fan ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:23PM

Congrats to the Westfield Bulldogs. It's been a long time for the bulldogs to win both the region and state title (last won both in 2007)

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Knighthawk ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:31PM

congrats from a Cville Fan Wrote:
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> Even though I usually root big time against
> Westfield, congrats to them for beating the beach
> team Oscar Smith and showing again the dominance
> of the Concorde district in the state of Virginia.

Same here. Never root for Westfield, but found myself rooting for them against Lake Braddock and South County. Especially against South County because of their big mouthed delusional fans.

Glad they brought the Championship back to the Northern Region and the Concorde District.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Just saying ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:11PM

Also found myself rooting for Westfield, however, can anyone please explain to me why Coach doesn't call time out when it was 4th and over 30 for Oscar Smith?

Make them punt, send 10 guys, balls to the wall.

Even a roughing penalty doesn't hurt you. Could have just as easily fumbled in any of the OT's, like they did all second half.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Kiss my delusional ass ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:14PM

Tell your mum to kiss my delusional ass as your sorry ass team no longer has all the transfer talent and you all watched SoCo and LB go further than your bitch ass team hahahahahahabab babba bouie sux ass the new normal at Cville

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Typical Westfield Fan ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:23PM

Tell your mum to kiss my delusional ass as your sorry ass team no longer has all the transfer talent and you all watched SoCo and LB go further than your bitch ass team hahahahahahabab babba bouie sux ass the new normal at Cville

-------------------------------

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Westfield Bulldogs fan base....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Troll spam ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:36PM

Not a Westfield fan… just a troll from somewhere else…

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Given the grammar ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:38PM

Given the grammar and spelling looks like a Bulldog fan....

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: LocalYoooKel ()
Date: December 12, 2015 09:29PM

Caught the end of this game on cable 3OT! Congrats Westfield. State champs is a heck of an accomplishment.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 12, 2015 10:27PM

Took in both games. Wow - the afternoon game was HOT. Unfortunately it looked to me like the Stone Bridge defense just simply wilted away with about 2 minutes left in the 3rd. Fortunate for Westfield they got the evening game - a lot cooler. And fortunate they got Oscar Smith i/o of Highland Springs. Those Springers were quite the team.

But props to Westfield for hanging in there. I knew OS would fight back into the game unlike South County and Lake Braddock. This is where playing teams like Robinson and Centreville (yes, Centreville this season) in tough battles helped season Westfield for this type of game.

Happy to see officiating not really much of an issue - there was a totally bogus roughing the punter call that helped OS back into the game. But on the other hand Westfield got away with a pretty blatant hold on one of their TD's.

That being said Westfield dominated the offensive line of scrimmage and if they hang on to the football they win by 3 TDs no question. Kudos to the Westfield coaching staff - they totally changed their defense for this game to help counter the OS passing attack (3 DL i/o 4). Let up some plays obviously but only gave up 21 points in regulation.

The last several series of the game OS dropped their help against #10 and left their DB alone one-on-one. Can't believe Westfield didn't go that way a couple of times.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Really Bruh? ()
Date: December 12, 2015 10:42PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Took in both games. Wow - the afternoon game was
> HOT. Unfortunately it looked to me like the Stone
> Bridge defense just simply wilted away with about
> 2 minutes left in the 3rd. Fortunate for
> Westfield they got the evening game - a lot
> cooler. And fortunate they got Oscar Smith i/o of
> Highland Springs. Those Springers were quite the
> team.


Westfield was fortunate that they didn't get Highland Springs? Really? If anything Highland Springs in fortunate that they didn't get Westfield!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 12, 2015 11:33PM

Congratulations to Westfield. Your fans were definitely a class act compared to Centerville from years past.

It was the battle that was predicted. I left this game so confused with my emotions. The Smith quarterback performed very well but yet threw 3 key interceptions, I am both proud and upset.

There were calls missed by the refs, (likely for both teams) but overall, I'm glad they let both teams play. too.

Obviously,Westfield fans are estatic for the win but at the same time I'm sure they can't believe their team lost so many fumbles and the all star kicker missed 2 field goals!

In the end, it looked like Westfield just had too many fresh legs compared to Smith's players that played both sides of the ball all knight. I think Smith benefits in the same manner when they play smaller schools too.

What a season, I only hope the same 2 teams meet again in C'ville next year!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Nova football ()
Date: December 13, 2015 12:09AM

Smith Wrote:
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> Congratulations to Westfield. Your fans were
> definitely a class act compared to Centerville
> from years past.
>
> It was the battle that was predicted. I left this
> game so confused with my emotions. The Smith
> quarterback performed very well but yet threw 3
> key interceptions, I am both proud and upset.
>
> There were calls missed by the refs, (likely for
> both teams) but overall, I'm glad they let both
> teams play. too.
>
> Obviously,Westfield fans are estatic for the win
> but at the same time I'm sure they can't believe
> their team lost so many fumbles and the all star
> kicker missed 2 field goals!
>
> In the end, it looked like Westfield just had too
> many fresh legs compared to Smith's players that
> played both sides of the ball all knight. I think
> Smith benefits in the same manner when they play
> smaller schools too.
>
> What a season, I only hope the same 2 teams meet
> again in C'ville next year!

Any team coming out of the North would have beat this Smith team. Way down from years past, how did they beat Ocean Lakes? Since you mention Centreville (not Centerville) any past State Finalist Centreville team would have beat either of these teams by 14. Great win for NOVA Football!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Concorde 2016 schedules ()
Date: December 13, 2015 02:40AM

So whooooo knows what Concorde schedules will be looking like for 2016??? Also, will conferences realign after next season please fill me in.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:08AM

Same schedule

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Hnwjy ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:21AM

Concorde 2016 schedules Wrote:
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> So whooooo knows what Concorde schedules will be
> looking like for 2016??? Also, will conferences
> realign after next season please fill me in.


Go to the High School Football 2016 thread broh. This thread is for 2015 and will quickly fad off the front page now that the season is over.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:22AM

Concorde 2016 schedules Wrote:
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> So whooooo knows what Concorde schedules will be
> looking like for 2016??? Also, will conferences
> realign after next season please fill me in.

I would assume all the Loudoun-Fairfax games were home-away so correct me if I'm wrong but the same match-ups will happen again in 2016.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:23AM

Really Bruh? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Westfield was fortunate that they didn't get
> Highland Springs? Really? If anything Highland
> Springs in fortunate that they didn't get
> Westfield!

Did not mean to say Westfield would not win that game - only that I think HS looked to me like a better team than OS.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: NoVA Pigskin ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:05AM

Where are all the Westfield haters? Especially those from Centreville? Very quiet....? This Westfield team not as good as the past ones, even those that lost the Region finals, but you can only play who is on your schedule and today, once again, they are back on top of the mountain. The BEST, MOST CONSISTENT, team in Virginia. Kudos to the coaches, who for the first time in memory, were willing to alter their playbook and match their schemes to their players talent.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Why so obsessed ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:37AM

Why so obsessed still with Centreville? All I have seen is one or two rogue (maybe) Centreville fans giving Westfield shit on these boards. Chill out dude.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Congrats Westfield- Oakton ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:02AM

WF and Centreville proven what we all should know! Concorde FB is the best!

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: tru dat boys ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:11AM

Agree with that - 9 championships now since mid 1990's from Concorde, basically half of all the 6a champs over last twenty years from one division. Pretty awesome.

3 WF, 2 Cville, 2 Robinson, 1 Oakton, and 1 Chantilly

Hooooaaahhh

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: VWDpt ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:33AM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Really Bruh? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Westfield was fortunate that they didn't get
> > Highland Springs? Really? If anything Highland
> > Springs in fortunate that they didn't get
> > Westfield!
>
> Did not mean to say Westfield would not win that
> game - only that I think HS looked to me like a
> better team than OS.


WF O-line would drive HS into the dirt. They manhandled OS' D-line all game long and Smith has a much more talented defense than Highland. It would not have been pretty.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: dH4pk ()
Date: December 13, 2015 12:47PM

tru dat boys Wrote:
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> Agree with that - 9 championships now since mid
> 1990's from Concorde, basically half of all the 6a
> champs over last twenty years from one division.
> Pretty awesome.
>
> 3 WF, 2 Cville, 2 Robinson, 1 Oakton, and 1
> Chantilly
>
> Hooooaaahhh


Robinson was in the Patriot when they won both titles

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: who caresz ()
Date: December 13, 2015 01:39PM

Just a wannabe gangster from patriot.....sorry none of the Patriot teams can win anything

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: twnnL ()
Date: December 13, 2015 02:00PM

I said nothing provocative - just a fact

Concorde dude wanted to claim 9 titles... they have 7

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Realignment ()
Date: December 13, 2015 02:00PM

Robinson is soon to be headed back to the patriot due to realignment. They appear to have thugs headed in the right direction and the move will only help them.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: December 14, 2015 07:42PM

Westfield gets some post-season love:

USA Today #25 National Super 25 Expert Rankings

http://usatodayhss.com/rankings/expert/boys/football/2015/18

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: T ()
Date: December 15, 2015 11:35AM

Complete bullshit
I heard south county s Football commissioner s son and socos starting center got all drug and distribution charges dropped .My question is why would the team suspend him right before the Westfield game??Are you not innocent till proven guilty any more?could the game turned out different? ?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: knowerofthings ()
Date: December 15, 2015 04:47PM

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> could the game turned out different?

The answer is no. The score was 40-0 when starters began coming out. A different center would have made no difference.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 15, 2015 04:50PM

Complete bullshit
I heard south county s Football commissioner s son and socos starting center got all drug and distribution charges dropped .My question is why would the team suspend him right before the Westfield game??Are you not innocent till proven guilty any more?could the game turned out different? ?

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You're kidding right? I wasn't aware that he played D as well since Westfield hung 40 on SOCO. No, it wouldn't have made a difference at all. The Westfield team everyone saw over their last 3 games is what all the so called experts new they had the potential to be at the beginning of the season. Just had some obstacles to overcome which inevitably is probably why they were able to turn it on. That and moving some pieces around.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Deja Vu ()
Date: December 16, 2015 02:57PM


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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 16, 2015 03:16PM

Deja Vu Wrote:
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> I will just leave this Here:
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> http://www.maxpreps.com/news/FTWXpNFgRUiX91hSa3Tjl
> g/maxpreps-2015-virginia-preseason-high-school-foo
> tball-fab-5,-presented-by-the-army-national-guard.
> htm


On the Westfield blurb, how does a team win 42-21 in overtime?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Gap ()
Date: December 16, 2015 05:49PM

For those that were there....that would be a misprint, 42-41 final

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 19, 2015 08:56AM

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the internet I will make some 2015 review posts. Since I am sick and bored I went back and added up the final record of our guru steve k2*.

Including playoff picks:

Vs Spread: 99-87-4
Outright: 158-32

Not bad I would say - in theory, you want the point spread to be 50-50 so that was darn close. He also was consistent in picking Westfield from the start as the 6A North champion and stuck with that pick even when they were not looking so good on offense.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 19, 2015 10:52AM

My final 2015 NOVA Top 10

1. Westfield 14-1 (6A state champions – gelled late, last three games extremely impressive)
2. South County 13-1 (6A north runner-up – made a nice run in the playoffs – finally got past second round)
3. Robinson 9-4 (won 5 in a row before losing close one to South County – their 4 losses were by a total of 22 points )
4. Lake Braddock 11-2 (blew out a lot of teams but games vs good opponents were close, out-scored teams with a losing record 404-40, outscored by teams with a winning record 95-109)
5. Stone Bridge 10-5 (after 4-4 start won 6 in a row, tough schedule helped them in 5A playoffs)
6. Tuscarora 13-1 (easy schedule in hindsight, gave up over 40 points 4 times this season + a lot of their wins were late game magic)
7. Champe 11-1 (season ended against 4A state champs, nothing to be ashamed of)
8. Battlefield 9-3 (a solid team playing in a very soft conference right now – played LB closer than I thought they would)
9. West Potomac 8-4 (disappointing end to the season – but overall had a year I did not see coming)
10. Madison 9-2 (kinda chocked away the game against Chantilly, playoff inexperience may have been a factor)

Broad Run, South Lakes, Potomac Falls, Chantilly and West Springfield might have an argument for Top 10.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Mikos ()
Date: December 19, 2015 09:31PM

I'll give South Lakes that 10th spot they beat Oakton and played Westfield tough in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 21, 2015 05:14PM

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> I'll give South Lakes that 10th spot they beat
> Oakton and played Westfield tough in the playoffs.


Can't really argue with you. My thinking on that was Madison handled South Lakes pretty handily in the regular season and Chantilly was a tougher draw than Oakton.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Cookie Monstar ()
Date: December 21, 2015 05:22PM

True that Chantilly is a tougher draw than Oakton but South Lakes was arguably the best team that WF played in the playoffs this year in NOVA.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 21, 2015 06:54PM

True that Chantilly is a tougher draw than Oakton but South Lakes was arguably the best team that WF played in the playoffs this year in NOVA.

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Not sure about that, the WF players did not play well in the South Lakes game. But the bigger issue was that many of the WF's players didn't take the game seriously. It was assumed that since the last few years both teams met in the regular season, games were never close, that it would be the same. Also don't forget that the Johnson to QB and Scanlon back to WR switch had not taken place yet. If you don't think that would have made a difference offensively just ask Lake Braddock, South County, and Ocean Lakes. Had they gone with that all season and I think their offense would have been much more dynamic.

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Magic Lorrbi ()
Date: July 05, 2017 06:59PM

Any thoughts for next season?

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Re: High School Football 2015
Posted by: Memory thoughts ()
Date: December 08, 2018 06:42PM

Seems like yesterday

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