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Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Time to ban men from coaching ()
Date: August 07, 2013 01:30PM

Va. basketball coach facing child porn, sex assault charges
Wednesday - 8/7/2013, 11:53am

WASHINGTON - A trainer and basketball coach in Virginia has been arrested and charged with sexual assault and solicitation of child pornography.

The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says 39-year-old Marlow Mikassa Afshartous of Reston has provided basketball instruction at Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling and the now-closed Hoop Magic in Chantilly.

Afshartous also is known as Marlow Talley. Authorities say he additionally participated with the Fairfax Stars and at Georgetown Day School.

Investigators with the sheriff's office in June began looking into allegations that Afshartous had a sexual relationship with a female athlete under the age of 13. He was arrested last weekend with the help of Fairfax County police and is being held without bond.

Authorities say they are continuing the investigation to see if there may be additional alleged victims. Anyone with information is asked to call 703-777-0475.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 07, 2013 01:31PM

Hoop Magic will never go away will it?
Attachments:
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: VABasketballParent2012 ()
Date: August 07, 2013 02:18PM

Not the answer.... There are great men of integrity who continue to earnestly commit time and expertise to young female athletes. The problem may rest with parents who drop off their girls, have coaches driving them to and from workouts alone, buying them food and serving as an babysitter to some degree all with the hopes and promise of a college scholarship. There has to be consideration given to safety when our children are training with men or women. It may have been very convenient but a girl under 13 should never have been left alone and vulnerable to any male trainer/coach. Parents/Guardians have to do better. Safety First.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: blame the parents? ()
Date: August 07, 2013 02:29PM

To VA BASKETBALL IDIOT PARENT-

Good God what is wrong with you.

The bad guy is pictured above, ok?

The parents aren't on trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: VABasketballParent2012 ()
Date: August 07, 2013 03:46PM

Not excusing him at all. Not putting parents on trial. Just making a point that "Time to BAN men from coaching" is not the answer.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: a concerned parent ()
Date: August 07, 2013 04:02PM

>>To VA BASKETBALL IDIOT PARENT-

Good God what is wrong with you.

The bad guy is pictured above, ok?

The parents aren't on trial.


They should be if they allow their underage daughter to be unsupervised around some stranger, I don't care who the hell he is. Men are all horndogs, but most have control of themselves while some do not. If you love your children it is best to plan for the worst and expect every male of being a molester, whether it is in them or not. Most normal men don't like to be around children that are not their own, so if some guy offers to baby sit, drive them around, take care of them, watch the fuck out.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Enuffsaid ()
Date: August 07, 2013 05:16PM

Isn't it the law that a male doctor should never be alone with a female minor and so they always have a female nurse present? The same should be true about coaches.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: new rules for sports teams ()
Date: August 07, 2013 05:27PM

They should be if they allow their underage daughter to be unsupervised around some stranger


Stranger? So now a youth coach is a stranger?

Odd definition of stranger.

Maybe all sports clubs should require two coaches ON SITE at all times?

The reason the nurse is in the examining room with the doctor is to protect the doctor from false lawsuit--not to protect the patient.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Always Another Side ()
Date: August 07, 2013 05:56PM

No one has asked whether it was the girl who initiated the relationship. How about THAT?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Juxtaposition ()
Date: August 07, 2013 05:59PM

yea nigga, I bet that pussy is tight.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggest ass yet ()
Date: August 07, 2013 07:49PM

Always Another Side Wrote:
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> No one has asked whether it was the girl who
> initiated the relationship. How about THAT?

Seriously?

She was under age 13.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggmacc ()
Date: August 07, 2013 08:06PM

As a coach and a parent of girls you should never leave your daughter alone with anyone. If someone else is not going to be there at the same time you need to stay. Besides because of what happened here why would you not watch and make sure your child is getting the training g you are paying for?
This is not the parents fault but they sure could have made it impossible to happen by being there all the time. Creeps look for oppertunity, make it so there is none

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Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: August 08, 2013 05:06AM

Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/marlow-talley-arrested-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-a-minor-92420.html

LEESBURG, Va. (WJLA) - A well-known Loudoun County basketball coach and trainer has been arrested on accusations that he sexually assaulted at least one of his athletes, officials say.

Marlow Mikassa Afshartous, a 39-year-old Reston resident who also goes by the name Marlow Talley, was charged Saturday with sexual assault and solicitation of child pornography, Loudoun County Sheriff's officials say.

Talley was a member of the VCU basketball team in the mid-1990’s, and went on to play professional ball in Finland where he won a slam dunk contest. Then, Talley worked as an assistant for the Georgetown Day School women’s varsity team for the last three seasons, and since 2012, has coached at the Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling, VA.

According to an affidavit in Loudoun County court, the alleged victim came forward in late June and late July claiming that on multiple occasions in Loudoun County and Fairfax County, Talley sexually abused her.

She detailed physical actions, as well as Marlow requesting her to take a picture of herself topless with his cell phone.

The victim was 12-years-old at the time of the alleged incidents.

Talley continued to be employed by the county as a basketball instructor up until the day before he was arrested, officials say.

Tony Rizk works out often at the Claude Moore Rec. Center and says:

"This is the place where kids go. And you really can't have people like that in this kind of environment."

Abbas Amiri’s daughter swims at the center, and though he didn’t know Talley personally, says the allegations are nonetheless unsettling:

"it's really sad to hear and see this type of thing happen."

Authorities in both Loudoun and Fairfax counties are trying to figure out if Talley victimized any other young people. The suspect is being held without bond at a Loudoun County jail.

Georgetown Day school released this statement:

Mr. Talley worked at Georgetown Day School in a limited capacity. From approximately November to February during the 2010-2011, 2011-2012, and 2012-2013 school years he served as one of two Assistant High School Women’s Basketball Varsity Coaches. Mr. Talley is not currently employed by GDS nor will he be in the future.

We take matters of this kind very seriously and will be conducting an internal review surrounding his time at GDS.

Caroline Borges lives next door to the Talley family in Reston, where he was arrested on Saturday.

Borges says Talley seemed like a happy husband and father of two young daughters.

"They're a lovely family, so this is pretty upsetting," Borges says.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Concealed Carrier ()
Date: August 08, 2013 05:26AM

Good. This what you get when you let them niggers off with your daughters. Niggers don't have go looking for white girls/your daughters, they just wait for you to deliver them.

Oh he was a good neighbor(nigger), sure.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: old timer. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 07:10AM

When I was an assistant for volleyball maybe one parent out of twenty stayed and helped out or watched the practice. They saw it as free baby sitting. Some never even showed up to pick up their kids afterwards they left it to the coach or another parent to take the kids home. This is just a crime waiting to happen.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: asdfasdfasfd ()
Date: August 08, 2013 08:54AM

Interestingly enough, the other girls he coaches do not believe the accusation, but it looks like the cops busted him redhanded.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Duh! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 09:27AM

And what's up with those slumber parties at gyms involving kids and male coaches??

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:08AM

Just because the police say something doesn't mean it's true. Very few people that actually know Marlow or trains with him think this could be true. There are two sides to every story and if the police have the evidence to convict, then he's guilty. If they don't, he will go free. But one thing is for certain, nobody here knows anything and can say anything as fact. His reputation is ruined either way so he is done in Nova as a trainer. Teenage girls are not the bastions of good behavior and telling the truth. They are little drama queens who like to play games and can be ruthlessly mean. Is that the case here? Time will tell. The evidence will tell the story. If Marlow is as bad as some people here say he is, there will be more victims and more stories and more actual evidence. Until then, dragging someone's name through the mud because "I heard this" or "I saw that" is shameful.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: you are disgusting ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:18AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Just because the police say something doesn't mean
> it's true. Very few people that actually know
> Marlow or trains with him think this could be
> true. There are two sides to every story and if
> the police have the evidence to convict, then he's
> guilty. If they don't, he will go free. But one
> thing is for certain, nobody here knows anything
> and can say anything as fact. His reputation is
> ruined either way so he is done in Nova as a
> trainer. Teenage girls are not the bastions of
> good behavior and telling the truth. They are
> little drama queens who like to play games and can
> be ruthlessly mean. Is that the case here? Time
> will tell. The evidence will tell the story. If
> Marlow is as bad as some people here say he is,
> there will be more victims and more stories and
> more actual evidence. Until then, dragging
> someone's name through the mud because "I heard
> this" or "I saw that" is shameful.


Your husband is a sexual predator, ok lady?

Might want to ask your daughters what he did to them too.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BUSTED! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:25AM

He’s guilty, there's no discussion or argument needed. The nude picture of the girl who made the complaint was on his cell phone and he made the mistake of sharing it. Game over Perv!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Mom of four ()
Date: August 08, 2013 11:05AM

Teenage girls are not the bastions of good behavior and telling the truth. They are little drama queens who like to play games and can be ruthlessly mean. Is that the case here?

Maybe these are the kids you raise lady--but don't speak for the rest of us who have done a pretty good job raising our daughters.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 11:13AM

Hi,

I am a male who trained at hoop magic with Marlow 4 times a week for well over a year so I guess you could say I knew him well. I was shocked to here this news. To me Marlow was literally the nicest guy on the planet hes funny and very kind. He trained more girls than guys but he really understands the way girls play. I never saw anything suspicious but he did occasionally play with the girls with pushes or occasionally a pat on the back for a good job. Nothing unusual. I talked with some of the girls that also trained with him and they are shocked as well. Personally I think it was an over reactive parent that misjudged his known personal behavior and now the media is taking advantage of situation that obviously escalated. He was one of my role models and I sincerely hope this isn't true. Please respond if you have any questions.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 11:23AM

I am a parent who dealt with Marlow many times while he trained at Hoop Magic. Like many others, I am very surprised to hear of these ALLEGATIONS. Because that is what they are at this point - ALLEGATIONS. It amazes me how quickly people are able to leap to their own conclusions. I also know a lot of coaches (male and female) and it's the leap to throw them all into the same bucket here that is really disturbing to me. These coaches volunteer their own time, and many times expense, to coach these kids and teams. How about everyone waits to at least hear the actual evidence before throwing Marlow under the bus.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mr.finnair ()
Date: August 08, 2013 12:07PM

Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family but there is so much more to Marlow than most of you know. Karma is a bitch and this is what happens to people who dont take responsibilty of their actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice person and a nice family from outside but there is a selfish, narcist person under the nice guy image. Trust me, i have had to deal with his irresponsility for many years, and someone else too who is very close to me. But right now im happy he has been far from us and i can just say, everything happens for a reason!!!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: just stop school sports ()
Date: August 08, 2013 12:40PM

School sports-cost lots of money, aren't good for much, breed people like Jerry Sandusky, full of people like George Allen.

When backed into a corner, school sports people lie through their teeth about the costs of artificial turf, and write deceptive reports to support their flawed positions.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: we need turf ()
Date: August 08, 2013 12:55PM

>When backed into a corner, school sports people lie through their teeth about the costs of artificial turf, and write deceptive reports to support their flawed positions.

Well of course they do. They know how much maintenance and work go into a crappy real grass field, and they know how badly we need that wonderous artifical turf. They are ready to lie, cheat and steal to get it for us. It brings tears to my eyes when I think of how selfless and noble these people are, bringing turf fields to all of our schools, no matter what the costs. Makes me proud to be an American!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:01PM

mr.finnair Wrote:
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> Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family but
> there is so much more to Marlow than most of you
> know. Karma is a bitch and this is what happens to
> people who dont take responsibilty of their
> actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice person and
> a nice family from outside but there is a selfish,
> narcist person under the nice guy image. Trust me,
> i have had to deal with his irresponsility for
> many years, and someone else too who is very close
> to me. But right now im happy he has been far from
> us and i can just say, everything happens for a
> reason!!!



Your comments about his personality mean nothing when it comes to this case. It's great when people can judge others isn't it? Step down off your high horse for a minute and relate to us how well you know Marlow and how is personality means he is guilty of this crime.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:05PM

you are disgusting Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just because the police say something doesn't
> mean
> > it's true. Very few people that actually know
> > Marlow or trains with him think this could be
> > true. There are two sides to every story and
> if
> > the police have the evidence to convict, then
> he's
> > guilty. If they don't, he will go free. But
> one
> > thing is for certain, nobody here knows
> anything
> > and can say anything as fact. His reputation
> is
> > ruined either way so he is done in Nova as a
> > trainer. Teenage girls are not the bastions of
> > good behavior and telling the truth. They are
> > little drama queens who like to play games and
> can
> > be ruthlessly mean. Is that the case here?
> Time
> > will tell. The evidence will tell the story.
> If
> > Marlow is as bad as some people here say he is,
> > there will be more victims and more stories and
> > more actual evidence. Until then, dragging
> > someone's name through the mud because "I heard
> > this" or "I saw that" is shameful.
>
>
> Your husband is a sexual predator, ok lady?
>
> Might want to ask your daughters what he did to
> them too.


I am not a lady and Marlow has been around my family many MANY times. He did nothing to them. Thanks for your concern though. Marlow trained thousands of kids over the past 15 or so years. Surely more are going to step forward with such allegations if he is the monster everyone is saying he is, correct?

Fact is...you don't know jack.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:06PM

Thank you justthefacts. Does anyone have more information that has not been presented by the media?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: whateverslamdunkwinner ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:08PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> mr.finnair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family but
> > there is so much more to Marlow than most of
> you
> > know. Karma is a bitch and this is what happens
> to
> > people who dont take responsibilty of their
> > actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice person
> and
> > a nice family from outside but there is a
> selfish,
> > narcist person under the nice guy image. Trust
> me,
> > i have had to deal with his irresponsility for
> > many years, and someone else too who is very
> close
> > to me. But right now im happy he has been far
> from
> > us and i can just say, everything happens for a
> > reason!!!
>
>
>
> Your comments about his personality mean nothing
> when it comes to this case. It's great when
> people can judge others isn't it? Step down off
> your high horse for a minute and relate to us how
> well you know Marlow and how is personality means
> he is guilty of this crime.

Just saying he is getting what he deserves now. Its karma. He thinks he can get away with anything, thats all im saying.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:12PM

whateverslamdunkwinner Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mr.finnair Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family but
> > > there is so much more to Marlow than most of
> > you
> > > know. Karma is a bitch and this is what
> happens
> > to
> > > people who dont take responsibilty of their
> > > actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice
> person
> > and
> > > a nice family from outside but there is a
> > selfish,
> > > narcist person under the nice guy image.
> Trust
> > me,
> > > i have had to deal with his irresponsility
> for
> > > many years, and someone else too who is very
> > close
> > > to me. But right now im happy he has been far
> > from
> > > us and i can just say, everything happens for
> a
> > > reason!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Your comments about his personality mean
> nothing
> > when it comes to this case. It's great when
> > people can judge others isn't it? Step down
> off
> > your high horse for a minute and relate to us
> how
> > well you know Marlow and how is personality
> means
> > he is guilty of this crime.
>
> Just saying he is getting what he deserves now.
> Its karma. He thinks he can get away with
> anything, thats all im saying.



Is he? He's getting what he deserves? What if the allegations are false? Still getting what he deserves? Your issues with Marlow mean nothing in this case. If he is actually innocent of these charges (which he actually is until proven guilty) then what? His life in NOVA is done. His ability to train is done. Even if he is not guilty. He deserves that? That's your contention?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:14PM

KP15 Wrote:
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> Thank you justthefacts. Does anyone have more
> information that has not been presented by the
> media?


No, what they have is rumor...innuendo...or a personal agenda. These people don't deal in fact. They deal in "karma" and their personal feelings for this man. Forget if the allegations are true or not. GOOD! He is getting what he deserves.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BUSTED! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:14PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> whateverslamdunkwinner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > mr.finnair Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family
> but
> > > > there is so much more to Marlow than most
> of
> > > you
> > > > know. Karma is a bitch and this is what
> > happens
> > > to
> > > > people who dont take responsibilty of their
> > > > actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice
> > person
> > > and
> > > > a nice family from outside but there is a
> > > selfish,
> > > > narcist person under the nice guy image.
> > Trust
> > > me,
> > > > i have had to deal with his irresponsility
> > for
> > > > many years, and someone else too who is
> very
> > > close
> > > > to me. But right now im happy he has been
> far
> > > from
> > > > us and i can just say, everything happens
> for
> > a
> > > > reason!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your comments about his personality mean
> > nothing
> > > when it comes to this case. It's great when
> > > people can judge others isn't it? Step down
> > off
> > > your high horse for a minute and relate to us
> > how
> > > well you know Marlow and how is personality
> > means
> > > he is guilty of this crime.
> >
> > Just saying he is getting what he deserves now.
> > Its karma. He thinks he can get away with
> > anything, thats all im saying.
>
>
>
> Is he? He's getting what he deserves? What if
> the allegations are false? Still getting what he
> deserves? Your issues with Marlow mean nothing in
> this case. If he is actually innocent of these
> charges (which he actually is until proven guilty)
> then what? His life in NOVA is done. His ability
> to train is done. Even if he is not guilty. He
> deserves that? That's your contention?


What part of this do you not understand? He was caught, with the girl's naked picture on his phone. He took the picture and was sharing it, that's what the cops used to arrest him. Game over.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:18PM

BUSTED! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > whateverslamdunkwinner Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > mr.finnair Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Ok, maybe a nice guy and wonderful family
> > but
> > > > > there is so much more to Marlow than most
> > of
> > > > you
> > > > > know. Karma is a bitch and this is what
> > > happens
> > > > to
> > > > > people who dont take responsibilty of
> their
> > > > > actions. Yeah sure he seems like a nice
> > > person
> > > > and
> > > > > a nice family from outside but there is a
> > > > selfish,
> > > > > narcist person under the nice guy image.
> > > Trust
> > > > me,
> > > > > i have had to deal with his
> irresponsility
> > > for
> > > > > many years, and someone else too who is
> > very
> > > > close
> > > > > to me. But right now im happy he has been
> > far
> > > > from
> > > > > us and i can just say, everything happens
> > for
> > > a
> > > > > reason!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your comments about his personality mean
> > > nothing
> > > > when it comes to this case. It's great
> when
> > > > people can judge others isn't it? Step
> down
> > > off
> > > > your high horse for a minute and relate to
> us
> > > how
> > > > well you know Marlow and how is personality
> > > means
> > > > he is guilty of this crime.
> > >
> > > Just saying he is getting what he deserves
> now.
> > > Its karma. He thinks he can get away with
> > > anything, thats all im saying.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is he? He's getting what he deserves? What if
> > the allegations are false? Still getting what
> he
> > deserves? Your issues with Marlow mean nothing
> in
> > this case. If he is actually innocent of these
> > charges (which he actually is until proven
> guilty)
> > then what? His life in NOVA is done. His
> ability
> > to train is done. Even if he is not guilty.
> He
> > deserves that? That's your contention?
>
>
> What part of this do you not understand? He was
> caught, with the girl's naked picture on his
> phone. He took the picture and was sharing it,
> that's what the cops used to arrest him. Game
> over.



Prove it. Show us. Let's see the cop's statement regarding that. Again, try dealing with fact. And do you actually have proof the girl didn't pick up the phone and take the picture without his knowledge? What if she is setting him up? That's what a court case is for...to allow all the facts to come out. You don't have facts. You have what the media is feeding you.

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many lessons here
Posted by: what can we all learn here? ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:19PM

This is hopefully the first time for many of us that someone we know personally has been ACCUSED of such things. How about we all do some deep breathing and let the facts reveal themselves. I do agree that Marlow's life in NOVA is toast now, no matter what the outcome. I just hope that IF the allegations prove false, everyone doesn't them throw the kid under the bus. It amazes me how low people will sink with their comments - actually how low and how fast.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BUSTED! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:23PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Prove it. Show us. Let's see the cop's statement
> regarding that. Again, try dealing with fact.
> And do you actually have proof the girl didn't
> pick up the phone and take the picture without his
> knowledge? What if she is setting him up? That's
> what a court case is for...to allow all the facts
> to come out. You don't have facts. You have what
> the media is feeding you.

The picture was from a short distance away, so she didn't set him up. He's done.

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Re: many lessons here
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:23PM

what can we all learn here? Wrote:
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> This is hopefully the first time for many of us
> that someone we know personally has been ACCUSED
> of such things. How about we all do some deep
> breathing and let the facts reveal themselves. I
> do agree that Marlow's life in NOVA is toast now,
> no matter what the outcome. I just hope that IF
> the allegations prove false, everyone doesn't them
> throw the kid under the bus. It amazes me how low
> people will sink with their comments - actually
> how low and how fast.


This is what happens in this witch hunt society. Nobody stops and thinks "what if it were me" or "what if this were my brother/father/friend"? I see how quickly people will turn on you. Some of you had better hope you're never accused of anything you're not guilty of.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:26PM

BUSTED! Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Prove it. Show us. Let's see the cop's
> statement
> > regarding that. Again, try dealing with fact.
>
> > And do you actually have proof the girl didn't
> > pick up the phone and take the picture without
> his
> > knowledge? What if she is setting him up?
> That's
> > what a court case is for...to allow all the
> facts
> > to come out. You don't have facts. You have
> what
> > the media is feeding you.
>
> The picture was from a short distance away, so she
> didn't set him up. He's done.



This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. First, you have proof of this? Second, even the media has reported that he ALLEGEDLY asked HER to take the picture with his phone. Lastly, I didn't know there was a distance vector in which it's impossible for someone to take a selfie with a cellphone and it HAS to be someone else taking the picture. Frankly, the closer the photo, the more likely the person took it themselves. After arm length, then yes, it's impossible pretty much for someone to take a photo of themselves. But please, provide more "facts" to us.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BUSTED! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:28PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> BUSTED! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Prove it. Show us. Let's see the cop's
> > statement
> > > regarding that. Again, try dealing with
> fact.
> >
> > > And do you actually have proof the girl
> didn't
> > > pick up the phone and take the picture
> without
> > his
> > > knowledge? What if she is setting him up?
> > That's
> > > what a court case is for...to allow all the
> > facts
> > > to come out. You don't have facts. You have
> > what
> > > the media is feeding you.
> >
> > The picture was from a short distance away, so
> she
> > didn't set him up. He's done.
>
>
>
> This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
> First, you have proof of this? Second, even the
> media has reported that he ALLEGEDLY asked HER to
> take the picture with his phone. Lastly, I didn't
> know there was a distance vector in which it's
> impossible for someone to take a selfie with a
> cellphone and it HAS to be someone else taking the
> picture. Frankly, the closer the photo, the more
> likely the person took it themselves. After arm
> length, then yes, it's impossible pretty much for
> someone to take a photo of themselves. But
> please, provide more "facts" to us.

He's so busted, there's about two gigs of pictures with this girl and others under aged. He is so very busted, and you? You're just plain retarded.

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you seem very close to this situation
Posted by: hey BUSTED ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:29PM

so, which side are you on? were you jealous of Marlow's business? his abilities? with all of the inside info you seem to have, maybe you should get in touch with the police and help with the investigation?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mr.finnair ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:30PM

Yes i actually do think he is getting what he deserves. And not getting into any details because i want to protect someone. All this bullshit about how he is someones role model, well he certainly shouldnt be!!! Things are not always how they seem to be from outside, dont be so stupid people. Guilty or not in this crime, what goes around comes around...

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:31PM

BUSTED! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BUSTED! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > Prove it. Show us. Let's see the cop's
> > > statement
> > > > regarding that. Again, try dealing with
> > fact.
> > >
> > > > And do you actually have proof the girl
> > didn't
> > > > pick up the phone and take the picture
> > without
> > > his
> > > > knowledge? What if she is setting him up?
> > > That's
> > > > what a court case is for...to allow all the
> > > facts
> > > > to come out. You don't have facts. You
> have
> > > what
> > > > the media is feeding you.
> > >
> > > The picture was from a short distance away,
> so
> > she
> > > didn't set him up. He's done.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
> > First, you have proof of this? Second, even
> the
> > media has reported that he ALLEGEDLY asked HER
> to
> > take the picture with his phone. Lastly, I
> didn't
> > know there was a distance vector in which it's
> > impossible for someone to take a selfie with a
> > cellphone and it HAS to be someone else taking
> the
> > picture. Frankly, the closer the photo, the
> more
> > likely the person took it themselves. After
> arm
> > length, then yes, it's impossible pretty much
> for
> > someone to take a photo of themselves. But
> > please, provide more "facts" to us.
>
> He's so busted, there's about two gigs of pictures
> with this girl and others under aged. He is so
> very busted, and you? You're just plain retarded.


Again...proof? Provide us all this evidence you seem to have that nobody else has.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:34PM

mr.finnair Wrote:
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> Yes i actually do think he is getting what he
> deserves. And not getting into any details because
> i want to protect someone. All this bullshit about
> how he is someones role model, well he certainly
> shouldnt be!!! Things are not always how they seem
> to be from outside, dont be so stupid people.
> Guilty or not in this crime, what goes around
> comes around...




Good for you. Hate your fellow man. Jesus probably looks up to you. While you're at it, pray you're never accused of a crime and paraded in front of the media before the facts of the case ever come out.

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Re: you seem very close to this situation
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:37PM

hey BUSTED Wrote:
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> so, which side are you on? were you jealous of
> Marlow's business? his abilities? with all of
> the inside info you seem to have, maybe you should
> get in touch with the police and help with the
> investigation?



My side is on the side of justice. If he is guilty, then he needs to rot in jail for the rest of his life. But as of yet...he is not guilty. There are allegations made against him. I've known Marlow for decades. I am a competitor of his in the training arena. I wouldn't be jealous of his abilities or his business, which was at best, floundering. I want to only see justice done. That justice only comes with a court case and a trial, not by talking smack on a message board, touting "facts" that aren't actual fact.

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sure feels like a witch hunt
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:38PM

I have to agree with justthefacts - either prove it BUSTED or accept the fact that just as you can sit at your computer and type lines of b.s., you have to accept the fact that there are people who don't actually believe everything that they read on the internet or see 'reported' by the media. Flava Flav was right - FALSE MEDIA.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ban the hoops ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:42PM

You should call yourself copterparents and be honest. All of these activities do is waste money, raise taxes and distract from core education. Unless you think your kid is going to be a professional basketball player, just give it up and move on.

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hahahaha!
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:45PM

'coperparents' - that is hilarious! I actually call it BEING INVOLVED. you should give it a try.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BUSTED! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:49PM

Justthefacts and hoops parent...Pssst...Read the articles above again (this time with your eyes open). They didn't arrest him until they had the evidence in hand. (they do not just take the word of the victim in a situation like this).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mr.finnair ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:52PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> mr.finnair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes i actually do think he is getting what he
> > deserves. And not getting into any details
> because
> > i want to protect someone. All this bullshit
> about
> > how he is someones role model, well he
> certainly
> > shouldnt be!!! Things are not always how they
> seem
> > to be from outside, dont be so stupid people.
> > Guilty or not in this crime, what goes around
> > comes around...
>
>
>
>
> Good for you. Hate your fellow man. Jesus
> probably looks up to you. While you're at it,
> pray you're never accused of a crime and paraded
> in front of the media before the facts of the case
> ever come out.

Oh i dont hate him, did i ever say that?? I just think when u leave something behind and dont take responsibility of your actions somehow life will throw it back at your face. And what he has put his own son thru, im sorry but i dont feel sorry for him at all. The one i feel sorry for is his son who has a dead beat dad who chooses the kids he wants to be around. Now if these young girls are more important to him than his son is he still your role model???

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:52PM

He'll have his day in court, but I can tell you now it will not go well for him. The investigators have amassed enough evidence to charge and convict him.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:53PM

BUSTED! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts and hoops parent...Pssst...Read the
> articles above again (this time with your eyes
> open). They didn't arrest him until they had the
> evidence in hand. (they do not just take the word
> of the victim in a situation like this).


Psssst...police make arrests all the time with insufficient or circumstantial evidence and cases get tossed. Read the news one day. Also, read a book of some kind about evidence and law. Please provide us the evidence you claim to have. Been waiting for about an hour now and you've done nothing but post your opinions and what the media fed you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:55PM

BUSTED! I have read all of the articles. It is your apparent inside knowledge of the details that intrigues me. It's almost like you saw the pictures yourself, you know? Check your phone, BUSTED, and make sure you deleted those pics.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:57PM

mr.finnair Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > mr.finnair Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Yes i actually do think he is getting what he
> > > deserves. And not getting into any details
> > because
> > > i want to protect someone. All this bullshit
> > about
> > > how he is someones role model, well he
> > certainly
> > > shouldnt be!!! Things are not always how they
> > seem
> > > to be from outside, dont be so stupid people.
> > > Guilty or not in this crime, what goes around
> > > comes around...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Good for you. Hate your fellow man. Jesus
> > probably looks up to you. While you're at it,
> > pray you're never accused of a crime and
> paraded
> > in front of the media before the facts of the
> case
> > ever come out.
>
> Oh i dont hate him, did i ever say that?? I just
> think when u leave something behind and dont take
> responsibility of your actions somehow life will
> throw it back at your face. And what he has put
> his own son thru, im sorry but i dont feel sorry
> for him at all. The one i feel sorry for is his
> son who has a dead beat dad who chooses the kids
> he wants to be around. Now if these young girls
> are more important to him than his son is he still
> your role model???


His relationship with his son, and quite frankly, the relationship he has with anyone outside of this case are pretty much irrelevant. He has a wife and two daughters and those daughters love their father beyond belief. He has a mother and father that love him too. But again, irrelevant to the case at hand. You can throw dirt all you want about his personal life and your judgement of him as a father, it doesn't change the facts of this case and whether he is guilty or not.

Your dislike for him is jumping off the page. You can claim you don't hate him but it's pretty visible when you start attacking him on a personal level.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 01:58PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> He'll have his day in court, but I can tell you
> now it will not go well for him. The investigators
> have amassed enough evidence to charge and convict
> him.



An arrest does not equal a conviction. I hope that one day you don't get the distinct pleasure of finding that out first hand.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:01PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> BUSTED! I have read all of the articles. It is
> your apparent inside knowledge of the details that
> intrigues me. It's almost like you saw the
> pictures yourself, you know? Check your phone,
> BUSTED, and make sure you deleted those pics.

The information that "BUSTED!" posted is accurate regarding the picture. It came out after the arrest was announced when the media was interviewing LCPD about the case; however no pictures have been released because the victim is a minor. The pictures however are those of a young teenage female some distance away from the camera (allegedly taken by the suspect). BTW, it doesn't matter if he took the picture or not, just having it in his possession is a crime (Child Porn).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:01PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> BOLO. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He'll have his day in court, but I can tell you
> > now it will not go well for him. The
> investigators
> > have amassed enough evidence to charge and
> convict
> > him.
>
>
>
> An arrest does not equal a conviction. I hope
> that one day you don't get the distinct pleasure
> of finding that out first hand.

I do the arresting. ;)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:04PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BOLO. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > He'll have his day in court, but I can tell
> you
> > > now it will not go well for him. The
> > investigators
> > > have amassed enough evidence to charge and
> > convict
> > > him.
> >
> >
> >
> > An arrest does not equal a conviction. I hope
> > that one day you don't get the distinct
> pleasure
> > of finding that out first hand.
>
> I do the arresting. ;)


I CALL TOTAL B.S. ON THAT. give me a break.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:07PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> hoops parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BUSTED! I have read all of the articles. It
> is
> > your apparent inside knowledge of the details
> that
> > intrigues me. It's almost like you saw the
> > pictures yourself, you know? Check your phone,
> > BUSTED, and make sure you deleted those pics.
>
> The information that "BUSTED!" posted is accurate
> regarding the picture. It came out after the
> arrest was announced when the media was
> interviewing LCPD about the case; however no
> pictures have been released because the victim is
> a minor. The pictures however are those of a young
> teenage female some distance away from the camera
> (allegedly taken by the suspect). BTW, it doesn't
> matter if he took the picture or not, just having
> it in his possession is a crime (Child Porn).




And taking everything you say face value, the first thing that has to be established is that the photos ARE of an underaged girl, or the victim in this case. The defense also has the right to question that. Second, did she take the pictures without his knowledge? Defense also gets to question this. That's what a trial is for. I agree completely that the child porn charge is the most damning charge because it takes less to prove. But it is a little more complex than "hey look, pictures."

Again, if he is guilty, it will happen in a courtroom, not in the media or on a message board.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:08PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BOLO. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > He'll have his day in court, but I can tell
> you
> > > now it will not go well for him. The
> > investigators
> > > have amassed enough evidence to charge and
> > convict
> > > him.
> >
> >
> >
> > An arrest does not equal a conviction. I hope
> > that one day you don't get the distinct
> pleasure
> > of finding that out first hand.
>
> I do the arresting. ;)


Ok, I will play. So answer this. Everyone you've ever arrested has been convicted?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:09PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> mr.finnair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > mr.finnair Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Yes i actually do think he is getting what
> he
> > > > deserves. And not getting into any details
> > > because
> > > > i want to protect someone. All this
> bullshit
> > > about
> > > > how he is someones role model, well he
> > > certainly
> > > > shouldnt be!!! Things are not always how
> they
> > > seem
> > > > to be from outside, dont be so stupid
> people.
> > > > Guilty or not in this crime, what goes
> around
> > > > comes around...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good for you. Hate your fellow man. Jesus
> > > probably looks up to you. While you're at
> it,
> > > pray you're never accused of a crime and
> > paraded
> > > in front of the media before the facts of the
> > case
> > > ever come out.
> >
> > Oh i dont hate him, did i ever say that?? I
> just
> > think when u leave something behind and dont
> take
> > responsibility of your actions somehow life
> will
> > throw it back at your face. And what he has put
> > his own son thru, im sorry but i dont feel
> sorry
> > for him at all. The one i feel sorry for is his
> > son who has a dead beat dad who chooses the
> kids
> > he wants to be around. Now if these young girls
> > are more important to him than his son is he
> still
> > your role model???
>
>
> His relationship with his son, and quite frankly,
> the relationship he has with anyone outside of
> this case are pretty much irrelevant. He has a
> wife and two daughters and those daughters love
> their father beyond belief. He has a mother and
> father that love him too. But again, irrelevant
> to the case at hand. You can throw dirt all you
> want about his personal life and your judgement of
> him as a father, it doesn't change the facts of
> this case and whether he is guilty or not.
>
> Your dislike for him is jumping off the page. You
> can claim you don't hate him but it's pretty
> visible when you start attacking him on a personal
> level.

I dont hate him, trust me. Like i said, guilty or not, what he has done in the past and how he has behaved, it was expected he would get it back at him some day. That is karma. Thats all. And its pretty unbelievable that in this case people are siding with him and basically saying the girl is lying... Because Marlow never lies or cheats and is a great family man??? Oh please, wake up.

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you are missing my point
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:15PM

I am not siding with Marlow, nor am I saying the girl is lying. I am saying that we should all WAIT FOR THE FACTS. good grief.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:15PM

enough Wrote:

>
> I dont hate him, trust me. Like i said, guilty or
> not, what he has done in the past and how he has
> behaved, it was expected he would get it back at
> him some day. That is karma. Thats all. And its
> pretty unbelievable that in this case people are
> siding with him and basically saying the girl is
> lying... Because Marlow never lies or cheats and
> is a great family man??? Oh please, wake up.



That can be said of anyone. Every single person on the face of the earth has done wrong in their lives. If you claim to have not, you're lying, and that's doing wrong. Nobody ever said Marlow doesn't lie or cheat. Nobody here has blamed the alleged victim either. The bottom line is that his personal life, with all that alleged "lying and cheating" has nothing to do with this case. Also, the state has a burden to PROVE Marlow did something to this girl. You can't just listen to the story woven by the media and then claim the girl's story to be gospel. That's not how our justice system works. I am not defending Marlow and his personal life. I don't care about his personal life. I am merely watching the mindless masses sit here and judge him guilty of this crime without any trial.

Where is the karma police for that? Convicting someone of a crime without giving them a day in court? Sounds like bad karma no? Judging him on his personal life and taking those judgements to claim "that's what he gets" that's bad karma no? Hypocritical at best. Ignorant at worst.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:34PM

Wow I'm gone for a few hours and this is what I come to see... I guarantee most of you are older than me and you're acting like children. Some people know the bad side of marlow and most people know the good side. Ignoring this situation I believe he has done more right then wrong for many young people. Oh and some of you think training for basketball is a waste of money? Wow so ignorant. I never knew teaching someone at a young age how to become better at something that matters to the child was a waste of money. Let alone the physical shape they get into which I bet is better than yours. I do believe in justice and if he is guilty of child pornography he is erased from my memory until he gets his mind in the right direction again. But until then I will call Marlow a nice guy that I used to know. Oh btw Karma doesn't exist, only the repercussions following one's own choices.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: APB Al ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:41PM

It's Obama time. If you're Black, you can do anything you want. If anyone tries to stop you, have them arrested and charged with racism by Holder and the thought police.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:44PM

What if you're mixed? Lol

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:44PM

APB Al Wrote:
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> It's Obama time. If you're Black, you can do
> anything you want. If anyone tries to stop you,
> have them arrested and charged with racism by
> Holder and the thought police.


And apparently white people get to make racist rants all they want on the internet. Gotta love Obama time.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justsaying ()
Date: August 08, 2013 02:54PM

Not only did Marlow have girls riding around in his truck, but some were driving his truck. Young girls sitting on his lap and jumping on his back in hoop magic wasn't a red flag to anyone? Marlow has always had a fan club of young girls, like he was a rapper and why? He's not even a good trainer!! How many of his girls got in a DI school??

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:03PM

Justsaying Wrote:
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> Not only did Marlow have girls riding around in
> his truck, but some were driving his truck. Young
> girls sitting on his lap and jumping on his back
> in hoop magic wasn't a red flag to anyone? Marlow
> has always had a fan club of young girls, like he
> was a rapper and why? He's not even a good
> trainer!! How many of his girls got in a DI
> school??



While your opinions are respectable, your opinions are misplaced. First, how is he supposed to be controlling how people treat him? How girls act towards him? Is he supposed to see someone jumping on his back? Are some of the behaviors red flags? Certainly, but red flags for what? He's irresponsible? Sure. A child sex offender? Not so much. As far as training goes, you couldn't be more off base. How many girls did he train that went to D1 is irrelevant. The question to ask is 'How many girls WENT to college that he trained?" If he was such a crap trainer, it's a wonder how he was employed in so many different areas and for so many different people. Apparently some people had a different opinion of his training abilities. If he sucked so bad, he wouldn't have been a part of so many lives.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:06PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> BOLO. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > BOLO. Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > He'll have his day in court, but I can tell
> > you
> > > > now it will not go well for him. The
> > > investigators
> > > > have amassed enough evidence to charge and
> > > convict
> > > > him.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > An arrest does not equal a conviction. I
> hope
> > > that one day you don't get the distinct
> > pleasure
> > > of finding that out first hand.
> >
> > I do the arresting. ;)
>
>
> Ok, I will play. So answer this. Everyone you've
> ever arrested has been convicted?

Almost all of them. The best policy when issuing a warrant or making an arrest is to have all your ducks in a row, otherwise the suspect walks. For the suspect here, the original investigation is complete with the victim, however there are other victims (more than photo). Loudoun County has reached out to law enforcement in other counties in Northern VA to identify the others.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:09PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BOLO. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > BOLO. Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > He'll have his day in court, but I can
> tell
> > > you
> > > > > now it will not go well for him. The
> > > > investigators
> > > > > have amassed enough evidence to charge
> and
> > > > convict
> > > > > him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An arrest does not equal a conviction. I
> > hope
> > > > that one day you don't get the distinct
> > > pleasure
> > > > of finding that out first hand.
> > >
> > > I do the arresting. ;)
> >
> >
> > Ok, I will play. So answer this. Everyone
> you've
> > ever arrested has been convicted?
>
> Almost all of them. The best policy when issuing a
> warrant or making an arrest is to have all your
> ducks in a row, otherwise the suspect walks. For
> the suspect here, the original investigation is
> complete with the victim, however there are other
> victims (more than photo). Loudoun County has
> reached out to law enforcement in other counties
> in Northern VA to identify the others.


So no, not everyone you've ever arrested has been convicted.

As far as your statement about other victims, it will come out in court. I am sure that part will be "leaked" to the media as well at some point. Doesn't change anything about him getting his day in court.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:13PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> BOLO. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > BOLO. Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > BOLO. Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > He'll have his day in court, but I can
> > tell
> > > > you
> > > > > > now it will not go well for him. The
> > > > > investigators
> > > > > > have amassed enough evidence to charge
> > and
> > > > > convict
> > > > > > him.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > An arrest does not equal a conviction. I
> > > hope
> > > > > that one day you don't get the distinct
> > > > pleasure
> > > > > of finding that out first hand.
> > > >
> > > > I do the arresting. ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, I will play. So answer this. Everyone
> > you've
> > > ever arrested has been convicted?
> >
> > Almost all of them. The best policy when issuing
> a
> > warrant or making an arrest is to have all your
> > ducks in a row, otherwise the suspect walks.
> For
> > the suspect here, the original investigation is
> > complete with the victim, however there are
> other
> > victims (more than photo). Loudoun County has
> > reached out to law enforcement in other
> counties
> > in Northern VA to identify the others.
>
>
> So no, not everyone you've ever arrested has been
> convicted.
>
> As far as your statement about other victims, it
> will come out in court. I am sure that part will
> be "leaked" to the media as well at some point.
> Doesn't change anything about him getting his day
> in court.

Hope your not betting your paycheck on it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wronged amigo ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:15PM

And look theyre pickin on another nice man over here

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1274135.html

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:16PM

BOLO. Wrote:

> >
> > So no, not everyone you've ever arrested has
> been
> > convicted.
> >
> > As far as your statement about other victims,
> it
> > will come out in court. I am sure that part
> will
> > be "leaked" to the media as well at some point.
>
> > Doesn't change anything about him getting his
> day
> > in court.
>
> Hope your not betting your paycheck on it.



Betting on what? The only dog I have in this show is named justice. If guilty, he will get what's coming to him. If innocent, his life is ruined already.

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i have a question
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:19PM

especially to those of you who seem to know so much about all of this - why was no bond offered?

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Re: i have a question
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:22PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> especially to those of you who seem to know so
> much about all of this - why was no bond offered?


In a case like this, with charges like this, no way he would get bond. They have already said "there may be more victims" and they wouldn't want him to be able to get to them, or the one known victim, before trial. Could be a flight risk as well with his ties to other areas of the country and world.

These would be my assumptions.

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Re: i have a question
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:24PM

total nightmare all the way around - my son and his friends are all stunned - including some girls that were on his current team. Everyone is really in shock.

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Re: i have a question
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:27PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> total nightmare all the way around - my son and
> his friends are all stunned - including some girls
> that were on his current team. Everyone is really
> in shock.

I've known him for 25 years. He has his faults, but no way does anyone I know think he did this. We all recognize he COULD be guilty. But there is just no way from our history with him do we think he is capable of this. It's one of the biggest shocks of my life for sure.

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Re: i have a question
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:36PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> especially to those of you who seem to know so
> much about all of this - why was no bond offered?

We was not eligible due to the nature of these particular offense(s) and he is considered a flight risk. You don't know this man as much as you think.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: just a question ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:41PM

If a person is found guilty for the first time in a crime like this how many people around him would have ever guessed this about him?? What are the signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just saying normally people dont see this coming before that person is caught...

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Re: i have a question
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:44PM

BOLO. Wrote:
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> hoops parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > especially to those of you who seem to know so
> > much about all of this - why was no bond
> offered?
>
> We was not eligible due to the nature of these
> particular offense(s) and he is considered a
> flight risk. You don't know this man as much as
> you think.

Correction: Should have said "He" and not "We".

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:45PM

just a question Wrote:
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> If a person is found guilty for the first time in
> a crime like this how many people around him would
> have ever guessed this about him?? What are the
> signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just saying
> normally people dont see this coming before that
> person is caught...



That's not true at all. Pedophiles are predators. They are wired that way. There is no way NOBODY knew nothing and there aren't accusations all over the place in most of those cases. Could we all be wrong about him? It's possible. But either way, he deserves to have his day in court before judgement is passed on him.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BOLO. ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:49PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> just a question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If a person is found guilty for the first time
> in
> > a crime like this how many people around him
> would
> > have ever guessed this about him?? What are the
> > signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just
> saying
> > normally people dont see this coming before
> that
> > person is caught...
>
>
>
> That's not true at all. Pedophiles are predators.
> They are wired that way. There is no way NOBODY
> knew nothing and there aren't accusations all over
> the place in most of those cases. Could we all be
> wrong about him? It's possible. But either way,
> he deserves to have his day in court before
> judgement is passed on him.


His luck finally ran out.

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Innocent until proven guilty!
Posted by: Innocent until proven guilty! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:55PM

I am a younger (but not minor) female who has worked with Marlow for years. I can't tell you the number of times he had my back when other men were rude to me, etc. I can't fathom him doing the things he is alleged of and will be shocked if this is all true, as will many of the females he worked with or trained. Can't believe how quick people are to jump on a man and situation they don't know...so sad!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:55PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> just a question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If a person is found guilty for the first time
> in
> > a crime like this how many people around him
> would
> > have ever guessed this about him?? What are the
> > signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just
> saying
> > normally people dont see this coming before
> that
> > person is caught...
>
>
>
> That's not true at all. Pedophiles are predators.
> They are wired that way. There is no way NOBODY
> knew nothing and there aren't accusations all over
> the place in most of those cases. Could we all be
> wrong about him? It's possible. But either way,
> he deserves to have his day in court before
> judgement is passed on him.

They're not always so obvious. Not sure if you've ever heard of this website before, but it tracks Peds. Prepare to be horrified, because when I put in my home address 15 live in my neighborhood (two or three roads down), 1 right on my street.

Family Watchdog
http://www.familywatchdog.us/

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Re: Innocent until proven guilty!
Posted by: Mr. Insensitive ()
Date: August 08, 2013 03:56PM

Innocent until proven guilty! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am a younger (but not minor) female who has
> worked with Marlow for years. I can't tell you
> the number of times he had my back when other men
> were rude to me, etc. I can't fathom him doing
> the things he is alleged of and will be shocked if
> this is all true, as will many of the females he
> worked with or trained. Can't believe how quick
> people are to jump on a man and situation they
> don't know...so sad!

Are you ugly? If you are, that might explain why he never tried to get you on your back.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:05PM

Wow @Mr.Insensitive. It doesn't matter how you look anyone can fall victim to a crime of this nature. I understand both sides but seriously leave the ignorance out. It's sad that some of your lives revolve around trolling on forums. Shows how much you have going for you.

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Re: Innocent until proven guilty!
Posted by: Innocent until proven guilty! ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:08PM

How sad for Mr. Insensitive that you have to attack my looks! It is irrelevant. My point is that when other men acted inappropriately towards me, Marlow was the one that stopped them. For myself and most of the girls I know that have worked and trained with him, he was as protective as a family member and looked out for those around him. His behavior was the complete opposite of these allegations.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:18PM

Two Cents Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just a question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If a person is found guilty for the first
> time
> > in
> > > a crime like this how many people around him
> > would
> > > have ever guessed this about him?? What are
> the
> > > signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just
> > saying
> > > normally people dont see this coming before
> > that
> > > person is caught...
> >
> >
> >
> > That's not true at all. Pedophiles are
> predators.
> > They are wired that way. There is no way
> NOBODY
> > knew nothing and there aren't accusations all
> over
> > the place in most of those cases. Could we all
> be
> > wrong about him? It's possible. But either
> way,
> > he deserves to have his day in court before
> > judgement is passed on him.
>
> They're not always so obvious. Not sure if you've
> ever heard of this website before, but it tracks
> Peds. Prepare to be horrified, because when I put
> in my home address 15 live in my neighborhood (two
> or three roads down), 1 right on my street.
>
> Family Watchdog
> http://www.familywatchdog.us/

Not sure what your point is with this? We know sex offenders are everywhere. Not all sex offenders are pedophiles. And when you know someone for decades, you should be able to notice some kind of behavior out of someone that shows he's a criminal of some sort. Marlow has never exhibited ANY criminal activity in front of me or anyone that has known him as long as we have.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:29PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Two Cents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > just a question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If a person is found guilty for the first
> > time
> > > in
> > > > a crime like this how many people around
> him
> > > would
> > > > have ever guessed this about him?? What are
> > the
> > > > signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just
> > > saying
> > > > normally people dont see this coming before
> > > that
> > > > person is caught...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's not true at all. Pedophiles are
> > predators.
> > > They are wired that way. There is no way
> > NOBODY
> > > knew nothing and there aren't accusations all
> > over
> > > the place in most of those cases. Could we
> all
> > be
> > > wrong about him? It's possible. But either
> > way,
> > > he deserves to have his day in court before
> > > judgement is passed on him.
> >
> > They're not always so obvious. Not sure if
> you've
> > ever heard of this website before, but it
> tracks
> > Peds. Prepare to be horrified, because when I
> put
> > in my home address 15 live in my neighborhood
> (two
> > or three roads down), 1 right on my street.
> >
> > Family Watchdog
> > http://www.familywatchdog.us/
>
> Not sure what your point is with this? We know
> sex offenders are everywhere. Not all sex
> offenders are pedophiles. And when you know
> someone for decades, you should be able to notice
> some kind of behavior out of someone that shows
> he's a criminal of some sort. Marlow has never
> exhibited ANY criminal activity in front of me or
> anyone that has known him as long as we have.


My point was to show they can be anyone. Some go for years before they're charged with a crime for a variety of reasons. In this case, you've known this guy for years. Who knows what he was doing behind closed doors. Anyway, I'm sure we'll find out in a few weeks or so. Very sad state of affairs.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Clarified ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:30PM

KP15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Wow @Mr.Insensitive. It doesn't matter how you
> look anyone can fall victim to a crime of this
> nature. I understand both sides but seriously
> leave the ignorance out. It's sad that some of
> your lives revolve around trolling on forums.
> Shows how much you have going for you.

Innocent until proven guilty! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How sad for Mr. Insensitive that you have to
> attack my looks! It is irrelevant. My point is
> that when other men acted inappropriately towards
> me, Marlow was the one that stopped them. For
> myself and most of the girls I know that have
> worked and trained with him, he was as protective
> as a family member and looked out for those around
> him. His behavior was the complete opposite of
> these allegations.

This is Fairfax Underground, what were you expecting dipshits?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hellochildishpeople ()
Date: August 08, 2013 04:48PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Two Cents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > just a question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If a person is found guilty for the first
> > time
> > > in
> > > > a crime like this how many people around
> him
> > > would
> > > > have ever guessed this about him?? What are
> > the
> > > > signs of a never convicted pedofile? Just
> > > saying
> > > > normally people dont see this coming before
> > > that
> > > > person is caught...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's not true at all. Pedophiles are
> > predators.
> > > They are wired that way. There is no way
> > NOBODY
> > > knew nothing and there aren't accusations all
> > over
> > > the place in most of those cases. Could we
> all
> > be
> > > wrong about him? It's possible. But either
> > way,
> > > he deserves to have his day in court before
> > > judgement is passed on him.
> >
> > They're not always so obvious. Not sure if
> you've
> > ever heard of this website before, but it
> tracks
> > Peds. Prepare to be horrified, because when I
> put
> > in my home address 15 live in my neighborhood
> (two
> > or three roads down), 1 right on my street.
> >
> > Family Watchdog
> > http://www.familywatchdog.us/
>
> Not sure what your point is with this? We know
> sex offenders are everywhere. Not all sex
> offenders are pedophiles. And when you know
> someone for decades, you should be able to notice
> some kind of behavior out of someone that shows
> he's a criminal of some sort. Marlow has never
> exhibited ANY criminal activity in front of me or
> anyone that has known him as long as we have.

And i have known him for 17 yrs and have seen criminal activity and there is another law suit against him. I told you, everything is not always what it seems from the outside!!!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 06:21PM

hellochildishpeople Wrote:
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>
> And i have known him for 17 yrs and have seen
> criminal activity and there is another law suit
> against him. I told you, everything is not always
> what it seems from the outside!!!


Explain to us that activity. Explain to us that lawsuit since you're so versed in his life and we're not. Explain how that lawsuit pertains to this case as well.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough ()
Date: August 08, 2013 06:48PM

Dont need to explain you anything, i dont owe you any explanations. I know what i have seen and experienced with my own eyes and watched someone very close to me suffer from his actions. And dealt with the consequences of this selfish ignorant man. Might not have anything to do with this case but tells something about his character. If you are cabable of hurting your child the way he has (not talking about anything physical but is mental any worse???) then what are you cabable of doing to other peoples children. Thats why it makes me sick when someone says Marlow is their role model or they are a wonderful family when there is so much shit behind the scenes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough ()
Date: August 08, 2013 07:18PM

And what the hell is going on with his name? He used to be Marlow mokassa talley... Why the need to change his official name??

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: KP15 ()
Date: August 08, 2013 08:00PM

Not to be rude but I'm assuming @enough that you are the mother of Marlows son? In that case I can see why you hate him... but you are irrelevant to this thread.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: coworker ()
Date: August 08, 2013 08:12PM

It ALL makes sense now! OMG WTF!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: theone ()
Date: August 08, 2013 08:14PM

KP15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Not to be rude but I'm assuming @enough that you
> are the mother of Marlows son? In that case I can
> see why you hate him... but you are irrelevant to
> this thread.

You are so wrong about everything. And can I ask you who are you to tell or decide who is relevant to this thread?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: BBQ City ()
Date: August 08, 2013 08:58PM

I hope they fry this guy. People like that disgust me, as well as those stupid people who fall for their tricks and think these Pedos are their friends. I've known him for 17 years. Obviously you didn't know him as well as you thought. Good Riddance, you can write to him in jail.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough ()
Date: August 08, 2013 09:21PM

i am sorry, i did not know that people that do not like him were not allowed to post here. Only the ones who think he is a great guy...the american media brought this on so blame them if he is innocent, which i doubt.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 09:30PM

enough Wrote:
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> And what the hell is going on with his name? He
> used to be Marlow mokassa talley... Why the need
> to change his official name??


You know everything about him so you should already know the answer to such a simple question. Guess you don't know him after all huh? All you know is hate for a person that was in and out of your life for such a brief moment in time. And it has left you bitter.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 08, 2013 09:55PM

"He was a great guy"


Fuck you.


Part of the Chester scam is to be super nice and harmless looking, then your pre-teen daughter gets dicked down.

Do you think these pedophiles have horns and breathe fire? Open your stupid, gullible eyes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Mr. Insensitive ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:06PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> You know everything about him so you should
> already know the answer to such a simple question.
> Guess you don't know him after all huh? All you
> know is hate for a person that was in and out of
> your life for such a brief moment in time. And it
> has left you bitter.

So tell us, how old were you when you tasted his dick?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Sissy ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:13PM

I thought it would be fun, but it hurt.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough ()
Date: August 08, 2013 10:20PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> enough Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And what the hell is going on with his name? He
> > used to be Marlow mokassa talley... Why the
> need
> > to change his official name??
>
>
> You know everything about him so you should
> already know the answer to such a simple question.
> Guess you don't know him after all huh? All you
> know is hate for a person that was in and out of
> your life for such a brief moment in time. And it
> has left you bitter.

OMG, you really are stupid. Bitter about what exactly? Your little perfect bubble has burst now, enjoy. And i was only wondering whats happening with his middle name but I guess they misspelled it in media.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 08, 2013 11:22PM

Mr. Insensitive Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You know everything about him so you should
> > already know the answer to such a simple
> question.
> > Guess you don't know him after all huh? All
> you
> > know is hate for a person that was in and out
> of
> > your life for such a brief moment in time. And
> it
> > has left you bitter.
>
> So tell us, how old were you when you tasted his
> dick?


16...right after he pulled it out of your mom's ass.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Clarified ()
Date: August 09, 2013 04:22AM

enough Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OMG, you really are stupid. Bitter about what
> exactly? Your little perfect bubble has burst now,
> enjoy.

He popped her bubble too.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Teal'c ()
Date: August 09, 2013 04:29AM

I sense a "Lifetime Original Movie" in the works. I can see them using Christopher Judge to play Marlow...

Shall we go for a swim? We need to work on your...Technique.
Attachments:
Teal'c.bmp

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: August 09, 2013 08:44AM

Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/marlow-talley-arrested-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-a-minor-92420.html#ixzz2bTX8lBWK

LEESBURG, Va. (WJLA) - A well-known Loudoun County basketball coach and trainer has been arrested on accusations that he sexually assaulted at least one of his athletes, officials say.

Talley was a member of the VCU basketball team in the mid-1990’s, and went on to play professional ball in Finland where he won a slam dunk contest. Then, Talley worked as an assistant for the Georgetown Day School women’s varsity team for the last three seasons, and since 2012, has coached at the Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling, VA.

According to an affidavit in Loudoun County court, the alleged victim came forward in late June and late July claiming that on multiple occasions in Loudoun County and Fairfax County, Talley sexually abused her.

She detailed physical actions, as well as Marlow requesting her to take a picture of herself topless with his cell phone.

The victim was 12-years-old at the time of the alleged incidents.

Talley continued to be employed by the county as a basketball instructor up until the day before he was arrested, officials say.

Tony Rizk works out often at the Claude Moore Rec. Center and says:

"This is the place where kids go. And you really can't have people like that in this kind of environment."

Abbas Amiri’s daughter swims at the center, and though he didn’t know Talley personally, says the allegations are nonetheless unsettling:

"it's really sad to hear and see this type of thing happen."

Authorities in both Loudoun and Fairfax counties are trying to figure out if Talley victimized any other young people. The suspect is being held without bond at a Loudoun County jail.

Georgetown Day school released this statement:

Mr. Talley worked at Georgetown Day School in a limited capacity. From approximately November to February during the 2010-2011, 2011-2012, and 2012-2013 school years he served as one of two Assistant High School Women’s Basketball Varsity Coaches. Mr. Talley is not currently employed by GDS nor will he be in the future.

We take matters of this kind very seriously and will be conducting an internal review surrounding his time at GDS.

Caroline Borges lives next door to the Talley family in Reston, where he was arrested on Saturday.

Borges says Talley seemed like a happy husband and father of two young daughters.

"They're a lovely family, so this is pretty upsetting," Borges says.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: asdfadsfasf ()
Date: August 09, 2013 06:22PM

Look at all the views for this thread alone, and there are at least two of them on this subject.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: GetItRight ()
Date: August 10, 2013 11:27PM

I know someone who told police a few years ago that marlow did something to her (not intercourse) and they told her she had no proof so they couldn't do ANYTHING without proof (and I was there when this convo happened) so everyone saying this girl is lying and it's her word against his have no idea how the law works!!!
Why do u think it took 2 months of investigation?
And..for you Dumass racists, the "special" girls Marlow "allegedly" chose in the past were mostly black or mixed, so your precious white girls are safe

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: No winners ()
Date: August 11, 2013 12:07AM

I can't imagine the victim would make up this stuff if it weren't true. There is a first for everything. Word has it Marlow made it very clear who his "favorite" was. I think he may of liked her just a little too much and got in over his head. I don't think anyone would choose the path of going through police and then media if they didn't have to. There are no winners here.

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Re: Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
Posted by: Balla4Life ()
Date: August 11, 2013 04:18AM

Do I really need to go down the list of black men that have been lynched / killed for looking at a white girl? 12/13 year old girls are hormonal and promiscuous. What do you think the average 12/13 year old girl athlete who finds out the nude picture she let a 39 year old man take of her was shared?

RAPE! That's what she is going to say! Go watch the movie "Rosewood".

If the colors were reversed, black girl/ white man...the situation would be totally reversed and I guarantee the white man would not be in jail without bond and the black girl’s integrity would be challenged.

I think the white girl was flirting with the coach. Has anyone done a background investigation on the girl? What, was she held at gunpoint while he took the nude picture? She consented, got caught and to save herself, lied....

We ALL know that's what happened!

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Re: Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
Posted by: no winners ()
Date: August 11, 2013 09:09AM

Why do people have to throw the "color card" into this? It doesn't matter if he was white or black. The fact that she was 12 and he was 39 should be the focus. He knew better. He has two girls of his own. Maybe he should of thought of them and wondered what he would have done if a man of his age was trying to doing the same to one of his girls. Sexual acts don't need to be forced with gunpoint to make them wrong. In fact, most sex acts between the victim and predator go about very casual, which people mistake for consenting. BTW...the word rape was never mentioned in any news stories and she didn't get "caught" she came forward. Sometimes "good guys" do bad things.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: <><><><><> ()
Date: August 11, 2013 10:17AM

Supposedly his phone and home computer have pictures of young girls. Terrible!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: no winners ()
Date: August 11, 2013 10:57AM

@balla4life...the news never revealed the race of the victim, so jumping to the conclusion that it is a white/black issue is a bit of a racist accusation.

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Re: Marlow Talley arrested, charged with sexual assault of a minor
Posted by: no winners ()
Date: August 11, 2013 01:07PM

...the news never revealed the race of the victim, so jumping to the conclusion that it is a white/black issue is a bit of a racist accusation.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 11, 2013 04:52PM

It is a white girl and in reality, it makes no real difference. And again, innocent until proven guilty. If there were supposed pictures found on his phone or computer, why are there NO possession of child porn charges? There is just the solicitation of child porn charge in which the girl claims he asked her to go take a photo with his phone. If they have photos, then where are the charges? Maybe they are pending. Who knows at this point. As of right now, people are just running their mouths without knowing what they are talking about.


The truth will come out at some point. That may be good for Marlow and it may be bad for Marlow. But at this time, there doesn't look like much in the realm of evidence. It is her word against hers. Does she have reason to lie? Do her parents have a problem with Marlow? I think it should take actual evidence to convict someone, not just he said she said.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: You're right ()
Date: August 11, 2013 05:06PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> It is a white girl and in reality, it makes no
> real difference. And again, innocent until proven
> guilty. If there were supposed pictures found on
> his phone or computer, why are there NO possession
> of child porn charges? There is just the
> solicitation of child porn charge in which the
> girl claims he asked her to go take a photo with
> his phone. If they have photos, then where are
> the charges? Maybe they are pending. Who knows
> at this point. As of right now, people are just
> running their mouths without knowing what they are
> talking about.
>
>
> The truth will come out at some point. That may
> be good for Marlow and it may be bad for Marlow.
> But at this time, there doesn't look like much in
> the realm of evidence. It is her word against
> hers. Does she have reason to lie? Do her
> parents have a problem with Marlow? I think it
> should take actual evidence to convict someone,
> not just he said she said.

At this point the whole matter is under investigation and everything outside of the initial reports is just conjecture.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: no winners ()
Date: August 11, 2013 05:15PM

Concrete evidence is always needed to convince the Commonwealth Attorney of any wrong doing. A "he said" vs. "she said" case is very hard to prove but, being Marlow is being held without bond, leaves me to believe there is more truth to the story than not. They only want the public to know the minimum in the beginning of any investigation.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: You're right ()
Date: August 11, 2013 06:58PM

no winners Wrote:
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> Concrete evidence is always needed to convince the
> Commonwealth Attorney of any wrong doing. A "he
> said" vs. "she said" case is very hard to prove
> but, being Marlow is being held without bond,
> leaves me to believe there is more truth to the
> story than not. They only want the public to know
> the minimum in the beginning of any investigation.

Right, and we'll just have to wait to see what it is. Not looking good for him though.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: You're Tarded ()
Date: August 11, 2013 07:46PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> It is a white girl and in reality, it makes no
> real difference. And again, innocent until proven
> guilty. If there were supposed pictures found on
> his phone or computer, why are there NO possession
> of child porn charges? There is just the
> solicitation of child porn charge in which the
> girl claims he asked her to go take a photo with
> his phone. If they have photos, then where are
> the charges? Maybe they are pending. Who knows
> at this point. As of right now, people are just
> running their mouths without knowing what they are
> talking about.
>
>
> The truth will come out at some point. That may
> be good for Marlow and it may be bad for Marlow.
> But at this time, there doesn't look like much in
> the realm of evidence. It is her word against
> hers. Does she have reason to lie? Do her
> parents have a problem with Marlow? I think it
> should take actual evidence to convict someone,
> not just he said she said.
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sad day ()
Date: August 11, 2013 10:33PM

7 days have gone by since Marlow's arrest and still no bond. There has to be more to the story than we all know.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sad days ()
Date: August 12, 2013 04:40PM

Him rotting in jail is actually a HAPPY DAY-not sad one.

The sad day you refer to was when he preyed on and sexually molested young girls.

get your sympathy straight.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sad days ()
Date: August 12, 2013 05:20PM

the sad day was meant towards his family and the victim's family. It's sad for everyone involved.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: August 12, 2013 09:31PM

Has there been any new updates on this story? Amazing how everyone soon forgets and moves on to the next big news.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: free marlow now ()
Date: August 12, 2013 09:36PM

He's got 7 days of spunk ready for the next young lady.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 12, 2013 10:18PM

You're right Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is a white girl and in reality, it makes no
> > real difference. And again, innocent until
> proven
> > guilty. If there were supposed pictures found
> on
> > his phone or computer, why are there NO
> possession
> > of child porn charges? There is just the
> > solicitation of child porn charge in which the
> > girl claims he asked her to go take a photo
> with
> > his phone. If they have photos, then where are
> > the charges? Maybe they are pending. Who
> knows
> > at this point. As of right now, people are
> just
> > running their mouths without knowing what they
> are
> > talking about.
> >
> >
> > The truth will come out at some point. That
> may
> > be good for Marlow and it may be bad for Marlow.
>
> > But at this time, there doesn't look like much
> in
> > the realm of evidence. It is her word against
> > hers. Does she have reason to lie? Do her
> > parents have a problem with Marlow? I think it
> > should take actual evidence to convict someone,
> > not just he said she said.
>
> At this point the whole matter is under
> investigation and everything outside of the
> initial reports is just conjecture.


No, it isn't just conjecture. I wouldn't bother to post if I was just using conjecture. Yes, investigation is still going. Yes, more charges could come about. As of right now though, no additional charges and the other charges are not as rock solid as the media make them out to be.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 12, 2013 10:19PM

no winners Wrote:
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> Concrete evidence is always needed to convince the
> Commonwealth Attorney of any wrong doing. A "he
> said" vs. "she said" case is very hard to prove
> but, being Marlow is being held without bond,
> leaves me to believe there is more truth to the
> story than not. They only want the public to know
> the minimum in the beginning of any investigation.


Marlow being held without bond is a reflection of the charges, not that their evidence is strong. Also, he is considered a flight risk due to his connections in the US and outside the US.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 12, 2013 10:20PM

sad day Wrote:
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> 7 days have gone by since Marlow's arrest and
> still no bond. There has to be more to the story
> than we all know.


He has to have a bond hearing in order to get bond. There is one this week.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mandingo 4 ur daughter ()
Date: August 12, 2013 11:07PM

Yes please let the child rapist back into society. Thank you so very much.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: August 13, 2013 10:39AM

I believe the evidence is stronger than most think. Not sure he will be able to come up with the bond amount.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 13, 2013 10:54AM

updates Wrote:
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> I believe the evidence is stronger than most
> think. Not sure he will be able to come up with
> the bond amount.




What you believe isn't fact. If they add more charges, then they have strong evidence. If they find more girls, they have strong evidence. Right now, they are fishing because of the weakness of their evidence.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:40AM

do you know the date of the bond hearing?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: another brick in the wall ()
Date: August 13, 2013 12:02PM

Increasingly hard to justify school sports, deceptive reports, molestation, the list goes on and on.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Clarified ()
Date: August 13, 2013 05:40PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> updates Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I believe the evidence is stronger than most
> > think. Not sure he will be able to come up with
> > the bond amount.
>
>
>
>
> What you believe isn't fact. If they add more
> charges, then they have strong evidence. If they
> find more girls, they have strong evidence. Right
> now, they are fishing because of the weakness of
> their evidence.

They're not "Fishing" for more evidence because their evidence is weak. Otherwise this guy would be out on bond right now. Did you learn anything in school you stupid bitch?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: James Craig Summers ()
Date: August 13, 2013 10:36PM

Do they have any proof of assault or just their verbal claim of assault. I find verbal claims very suspect.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:03PM

Clarified Wrote:

>
> They're not "Fishing" for more evidence because
> their evidence is weak. Otherwise this guy would
> be out on bond right now. Did you learn anything
> in school you stupid bitch?



You must not have learned anything because A: The lack of bond has NOTHING to do with the evidence. B: You're calling people names on the internet like a bitch, which is interesting since you used the word bitch in your verbal shitstain.

Again, for the 9th time in this very thread, certain charges bring with it the inability to get bond. Example? You're more likely to get bond for something minor like simple assault as opposed to murder. The strength of the evidence only matters at trial and establishing probable cause for the search and arrest warrants.

Head back to school because you obviously know nothing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:05PM

James Craig Summers Wrote:
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> Do they have any proof of assault or just their
> verbal claim of assault. I find verbal claims very
> suspect.


Nobody knows exactly what they have. At this point, you can deduce they probably have no photos of the victim from his phone or computer because he was never charged with possession of child pornography, just solicitation. That probably means they either have text messages from him to her or they are just using her word.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:06PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> do you know the date of the bond hearing?


8/14

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Annie Ann ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:10PM

He was really nice at first, but then he put his huge penis inside me. Stop stop I said but he wouldn't. It hurt so bad. I don't think a nice boy will want me anymore.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Annie Ann ()
Date: August 13, 2013 11:28PM

It hurt so bad, but then it hurt so good and then I screamed fuck that dirty girl, fuck that dirty girl, fuck that dirty girl real good. My pussy was real stretched out. I'll need a big man for the rest of my life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: James Craig Summers ()
Date: August 14, 2013 02:42AM

I prefer the back door myself.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NIGGA ()
Date: August 14, 2013 06:15AM

A nigger knows how to tear that white pussy up.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: August 14, 2013 11:09AM

It's strange that nothing else has come out about this. I would have expected some news from someone by now.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 14, 2013 12:22PM

Two Cents Wrote:
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> It's strange that nothing else has come out about
> this. I would have expected some news from someone
> by now.


Investigation is ongoing. He doesn't have a hearing until September. He had a single bond hearing and was denied bond due to the seriousness of the charges. Anything else won't be leaked by police unless they have reason to.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 14, 2013 12:32PM

the only charges are assault and solicitation of pornography - correct? no possession of pornography or anything else, right?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Let me check ()
Date: August 14, 2013 02:21PM

Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
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> WASHINGTON - A trainer and basketball coach in
> Virginia has been arrested and charged with sexual
> assault and solicitation of child pornography.

Yep, just the sexual assault and solicitation of child pornography. Well you can't solicite it unless you possess it. wonder why they didn't charge him with the possession of it?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Why? ()
Date: August 14, 2013 02:45PM

Gosh- please tell me why a 39year old, married man with 2 kids needs to go after a 12 year old girl for pleasure?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 14, 2013 03:01PM

I really hope that EVERY SINGLE DETAIL comes out in this case if for no other reason than to give some people a reality check - you don't know the details/facts - stop acting like you all do. geez.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Concerned Parents ()
Date: August 14, 2013 07:09PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> I really hope that EVERY SINGLE DETAIL comes out
> in this case if for no other reason than to give
> some people a reality check - you don't know the
> details/facts - stop acting like you all do.
> geez.

And what are you going to do if they find this man guilty? What then? I understand why they have him custody with no bond, but I do agree they really need to come out and say what they have.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 15, 2013 12:13AM

Let me check Wrote:

>
> Yep, just the sexual assault and solicitation of
> child pornography. Well you can't solicite it
> unless you possess it. wonder why they didn't
> charge him with the possession of it?


You can solicit without actually getting it. They couldn't charge him with possession because he didn't have it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Ye Olde Legal Eagle ()
Date: August 15, 2013 05:07AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Let me check Wrote:
>
> >
> > Yep, just the sexual assault and solicitation
> of
> > child pornography. Well you can't solicite it
> > unless you possess it. wonder why they didn't
> > charge him with the possession of it?
>
>
> You can solicit without actually getting it. They
> couldn't charge him with possession because he
> didn't have it.


Here is the VA State Code on it...

§ 18.2-374.1:1. Possession, reproduction, distribution, solicitation, and facilitation of child pornography; penalty.

A. Any person who knowingly possesses child pornography is guilty of a Class 6 felony.

B. Any person who commits a second or subsequent violation of subsection A is guilty of a Class 5 felony.

C. Any person who (i) reproduces by any means, including by computer, sells, gives away, distributes, electronically transmits, displays with lascivious intent, purchases, or possesses with intent to sell, give away, distribute, transmit, or display child pornography with lascivious intent or (ii) commands, entreats, or otherwise attempts to persuade another person to send, submit, transfer or provide to him any child pornography in order to gain entry into a group, association, or assembly of persons engaged in trading or sharing child pornography shall be punished by not less than five years nor more than 20 years in a state correctional facility. Any person who commits a second or subsequent violation under this subsection shall be punished by a term of imprisonment of not less than five years nor more than 20 years in a state correctional facility, five years of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment. The mandatory minimum terms of imprisonment prescribed for violations of this section shall be served consecutively with any other sentence.

D. Any person who intentionally operates an Internet website for the purpose of facilitating the payment for access to child pornography is guilty of a Class 4 felony.

E. All child pornography shall be subject to lawful seizure and forfeiture pursuant to § 19.2-386.31.

F. For purposes of this section it may be inferred by text, title or appearance that a person who is depicted as or presents the appearance of being less than 18 years of age in sexually explicit visual material is less than 18 years of age.

G. Venue for a prosecution under this section may lie in the jurisdiction where the unlawful act occurs or where any child pornography is produced, reproduced, found, stored, received, or possessed in violation of this section.

H. The provisions of this section shall not apply to any such material that is possessed for a bona fide medical, scientific, governmental, law-enforcement, or judicial purpose by a physician, psychologist, scientist, attorney, employee of a law-enforcement agency, or judge who possesses such material in the course of conducting his professional duties as such.

(1992, c. 745; 1993, c. 853; 1994, c. 511; 1999, c. 659; 2003, cc. 935, 938; 2004, c. 995; 2007, cc. 759, 823; 2009, c. 379; 2011, cc. 399, 416; 2012, c. 369; 2013, cc. 761, 774.)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: August 15, 2013 09:05AM

His second bond hearing was denied once again.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: It's for real ()
Date: August 15, 2013 09:13AM

Must have real proof.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Angry Person ()
Date: August 15, 2013 09:41AM

In my opinion this website is extremely repulsive. So many people just talking trash about one another, having no remorse or proof of the allegations being made. This site is filled with people who have nothing better to do than hurt other from behind a computer screen. Why this should be a website about helping others and passing information around a community not a war zone where people put other people on trial and say horrible things about people. This is no better than cyber bullying except the anonymous names prevent you form having to reveal who they are. This is like a middle school where people do nothing but start rumors about others to hurt peoples feelings.

I hope that you read this message and think, about your future activity and really only present information that is factual and helpful to others in the northern Virginia area. Put yourself in the person your about to hurt before you post your message.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Angryer person ()
Date: August 15, 2013 11:08AM

And you put yourself in the shoes of the 12 year old girl that he did this to. Having a 6'8" 300lb+ man sexually assault you, a person who you trust as your basketball trainer.
Allegations were first brought to the police in June then again in July. They investigated the allegations as this is not something they would just go out and arrest someone on, so after making sure they had proof they arrest Marlow and denied his bond so what else should the public think but he is guilty and should have his nuts cut off. There is no reason to think he did not do this.
Standing up for him, almost making excuses of why he did this is just crazy. He did this, now they are looking into if there are others as most that pray on children do it to more then one.
I hope he did not touch yours, have you asked them yet??

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 15, 2013 11:15AM

It's for real Wrote:
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> Must have real proof.


His bond has nothing to do with their proof. A bond hearing isn't an evidence hearing. No evidence is presented during a bond hearing. The motion, filed by the defense, is to explain to the court that despite the charges and the allegtions, Marlow will not flee prosecution or is not a threat to others or himself. In Virginia, certain crimes (like the crimes he is charged with) carry an automatic reprimand without bond and the defense has virtually no shot to meet the burden required.

I wish people would stop saying his bond is proof of anything. He is not given bond because of the CHARGES only. And by the way, CHARGES doesn't mean he is guilty either.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: johnson ()
Date: August 15, 2013 11:16AM

10 inch, thick. Ouch

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 15, 2013 11:24AM

Angryer person Wrote:
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> And you put yourself in the shoes of the 12 year
> old girl that he did this to. Having a 6'8" 300lb+
> man sexually assault you, a person who you trust
> as your basketball trainer.
> Allegations were first brought to the police in
> June then again in July. They investigated the
> allegations as this is not something they would
> just go out and arrest someone on, so after making
> sure they had proof they arrest Marlow and denied
> his bond so what else should the public think but
> he is guilty and should have his nuts cut off.
> There is no reason to think he did not do this.
> Standing up for him, almost making excuses of why
> he did this is just crazy. He did this, now they
> are looking into if there are others as most that
> pray on children do it to more then one.
> I hope he did not touch yours, have you asked them
> yet??


The reason to think he did not do this is a simple one, innocent until proven guilty. Everyone should be granted this minor but effective portion of our judicial system. If you haven't noticed in this country, innocent people are arrested all the time. Some have even spend decades in jail. Yet others have been executed for a crime they didn't commit. So to start out by taking media reports as "evidence" and proclaiming someone as guilty is plain stupid. You have no idea what actual proof they have. Also, what does his size have to do with anything? I bet you think his color has something relevant to add to the case as well? Big evil black man stalking your white children??? Come on.

I haven't seen ANYONE make excuses for him doing this. Most "defenders" are merely stating how about waiting until you can see the actual evidence before proclaiming someone guilty? Especially someone that is the LAST PERSON that anyone who knows him would think could be capable of this.

I bet you didn't know that a group of other parents who he has trained, some even who know the girl involved because their girls played with her during AAU season, went to the bond hearing to act as character witnesses because they too think he isn't capable of this? They weren't called to testify because the judge never asked for them to testify. Again, the state doesn't have to provide evidence at the hearing. It isn't an evidence hearing. They merely stated the charges, how they arrived at the charges and that the investigation is ongoing. Did the news report this to you for your evidence bag?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Angryer person ()
Date: August 15, 2013 12:36PM

You quote what I wrote and try and get color Involed so I would ask who wants to get race involved? You think that a 6'8" 300lb man could intemidate a 12 year old girl? Boy you just do not want to see anything do you

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: clarified ()
Date: August 15, 2013 01:49PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> It's for real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Must have real proof.
>
>
> His bond has nothing to do with their proof. A
> bond hearing isn't an evidence hearing. No
> evidence is presented during a bond hearing. The
> motion, filed by the defense, is to explain to the
> court that despite the charges and the allegtions,
> Marlow will not flee prosecution or is not a
> threat to others or himself. In Virginia, certain
> crimes (like the crimes he is charged with) carry
> an automatic reprimand without bond and the
> defense has virtually no shot to meet the burden
> required.
>
> I wish people would stop saying his bond is proof
> of anything. He is not given bond because of the
> CHARGES only. And by the way, CHARGES doesn't
> mean he is guilty either.

That's not entirely so. True the evidence is not reviewed there, but the investigators due list their reasons for the charges and what they have (high level) to support it. But again, you're right its not real proof.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: August 15, 2013 05:44PM

Angryer person Wrote:
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> You quote what I wrote and try and get color
> Involed so I would ask who wants to get race
> involved? You think that a 6'8" 300lb man could
> intemidate a 12 year old girl? Boy you just do not
> want to see anything do you


And a dwarf can intimidate a little girl as well. Not sure what your point is?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Uh No... ()
Date: August 15, 2013 06:04PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Angryer person Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You quote what I wrote and try and get color
> > Involed so I would ask who wants to get race
> > involved? You think that a 6'8" 300lb man could
> > intemidate a 12 year old girl? Boy you just do
> not
> > want to see anything do you
>
>
> And a dwarf can intimidate a little girl as well.
> Not sure what your point is?

Well not really, Dwarves have sausage fingers and other unpleasant features. For example...
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: capable ()
Date: August 15, 2013 11:26PM

Fellow church followers also stand behind the priests that molest little boys. It doesn't matter how many people "think" Marlow isn't capable of doing this, there is a first for everything. And, people truly don't know what goes on inside someones head. It's ALWAYS the ones that people think couldn't that do.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts is a fool ()
Date: August 16, 2013 02:06AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> It's for real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Must have real proof.
>
>
> His bond has nothing to do with their proof. A
> bond hearing isn't an evidence hearing. No
> evidence is presented during a bond hearing. The
> motion, filed by the defense, is to explain to the
> court that despite the charges and the allegtions,
> Marlow will not flee prosecution or is not a
> threat to others or himself. In Virginia, certain
> crimes (like the crimes he is charged with) carry
> an automatic reprimand without bond and the
> defense has virtually no shot to meet the burden
> required.
>
> I wish people would stop saying his bond is proof
> of anything. He is not given bond because of the
> CHARGES only. And by the way, CHARGES doesn't
> mean he is guilty either.

Hey I haves soon land on the moon I have for sale...

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these posts just confirm my thoughts
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 16, 2013 07:57AM

many people (I didn't say ALL) still truly believe that the boogey man is nothing more than a black man. and, sadly, most of these posts do nothing more but confirm what I have thought for a long time. I have never posted anything DEFENDING Marlow - just suggestions that people wait for the facts to be revealed. BUT NO - it's so much more fun, for some, to just spew hatred. And I would bet that some of you probably 'have black friends', right? Give me a break.

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Re: these posts just confirm my thoughts
Posted by: hoops parent is a fool too ()
Date: August 16, 2013 07:59AM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> many people (I didn't say ALL) still truly believe
> that the boogey man is nothing more than a black
> man. and, sadly, most of these posts do nothing
> more but confirm what I have thought for a long
> time. I have never posted anything DEFENDING
> Marlow - just suggestions that people wait for the
> facts to be revealed. BUT NO - it's so much more
> fun, for some, to just spew hatred. And I would
> bet that some of you probably 'have black
> friends', right? Give me a break.

Well you and Justthefacts can start your little old Pedo fan club. Your buddy got busted and now you place the race card. (That's so OJ). Hope he enjoys the "Coaching" he'll get in the big house.

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Re: these posts just confirm my thoughts
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: August 16, 2013 08:33AM

actually, everyone else played the 'race card'. I didn't. I simply commented on it. Grow up. geez - why do I expect anonymous posters on this site to act like adults? for that, yes, I am a fool!

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Re: these posts just confirm my thoughts
Posted by: Yo! ()
Date: August 16, 2013 10:10AM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> actually, everyone else played the 'race card'. I
> didn't. I simply commented on it. Grow up. geez
> - why do I expect anonymous posters on this site
> to act like adults? for that, yes, I am a fool!

Score one for Whitey!
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bitter pill
Posted by: get realz ()
Date: August 16, 2013 10:13AM

nice!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enuf ()
Date: August 17, 2013 12:32AM

When is society as a whole going to stop and look at who we entrust our youth to. Parents need to be more responsible for their children and OPEN their eyes. Bad things happen on a daily if not hourly basis. Be involved and don't let your childrens safety to society. If something smells fishy........it is likely FISH!!! REGGIE Barnes.......Herndon High School...........WoW!! He was able to keep his job AND coach again!!! AMAZING!!! Coach from South Lakes...............ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: heartbeat ()
Date: August 17, 2013 10:58AM

Once the evidence presents itself, everyone will be stunned. Sometimes people have a very difficult time believing certain things when it comes to people they have "known" forever. If a man from Ohio can have 3 girls kidnapped for 10 years in his house and nobody knows it, including his neighbors, something like this can happen in a heartbeat.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Any Update ()
Date: August 20, 2013 07:41PM

Any updates?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: heartbeat ()
Date: August 21, 2013 07:00AM

Court date in mid-September. Still no bond issued. This Saturday will mark 3 weeks since his arrest. Not sure of any other news.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: what a coincidence, huh? ()
Date: August 21, 2013 07:48AM

I find it interesting that just a short drive down the highway and you arrive in the quaint little town of Ashland, VA. That town is now reeling from a similar situation. Married man with kids alleged to have had sexual relationship with minor. Yet that man was bonded out. He wasn't considered a flight risk. Gee - the cases seem kind of similar. What could possibly be the difference between Marlow and Todd Attkisson? what could it possibly be????

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hEuPt ()
Date: August 21, 2013 07:58AM

Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
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I suppose all the men who are banned from coaching can become teachers, since we're going to have to ban women from teaching.

Seems like every day pedo female teachers are getting arrested for assaulting young boys.

Here's just a small sampling from recent news:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383950/Teacher-22-arrested-allegedly-having-sex-15-year-old-student.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/summer-michelle-hansen-charged-teacher-sex_n_3754716.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2398436/Teacher-Jennifer-Collins-McNeill-39-arrested-sexual-affair-student-16-years-old.html

http://gothamist.com/2013/08/03/22-yr-old_nj_teacher_arrested_for_s.php

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sick of hearing about Marlow
Posted by: give it a rest ()
Date: August 21, 2013 08:45AM

who gives a shit about that douche bag anyway?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Yowza ()
Date: August 21, 2013 08:56AM

hEuPt Wrote:
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> Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> I suppose all the men who are banned from coaching
> can become teachers, since we're going to have to
> ban women from teaching.
>
> Seems like every day pedo female teachers are
> getting arrested for assaulting young boys.
>
> Here's just a small sampling from recent news:
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383950/Te
> acher-22-arrested-allegedly-having-sex-15-year-old
> -student.html
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/summer-mi
> chelle-hansen-charged-teacher-sex_n_3754716.html
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2398436/Te
> acher-Jennifer-Collins-McNeill-39-arrested-sexual-
> affair-student-16-years-old.html
>
> http://gothamist.com/2013/08/03/22-yr-old_nj_teach
> er_arrested_for_s.php


One of those stories is a repeat. All of those ladies are cute to hot.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Angryer person ()
Date: August 24, 2013 10:41PM

Any updates on this?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: obliterate him ()
Date: August 24, 2013 11:15PM

He's rotting in jail, isn't that enough?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: heartbeat ()
Date: August 25, 2013 12:46PM

Still in jail. I believe court date is mid-September. Not sure if any new news has come to light.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: September 04, 2013 03:52PM

what a coincidence, huh? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it interesting that just a short drive down
> the highway and you arrive in the quaint little
> town of Ashland, VA. That town is now reeling
> from a similar situation. Married man with kids
> alleged to have had sexual relationship with
> minor. Yet that man was bonded out. He wasn't
> considered a flight risk. Gee - the cases seem
> kind of similar. What could possibly be the
> difference between Marlow and Todd Attkisson?
> what could it possibly be????



Marlow is considered a flight risk according to the prosecutor. He also has ties to other countries and other states. Maybe Todd Attkinsson doesn't? Can't compare the cases.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sports are a problem ()
Date: September 04, 2013 04:04PM

There's a reason why the world's other civilized nations don't overdo school sports, and this is part of the reason.

If school sports were eliminated, the world would not end and this abuse by coaches would stop (to say nothing of a lot of money being saved).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: maybe ()
Date: September 04, 2013 04:13PM

just maybe, parents should be paying real close attention to their daughters. Grown men can't take advantage of young girls unless given the opportunity to do so.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The secret is out ()
Date: September 04, 2013 04:20PM


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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: everywhere ()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:50PM

Grown men are everywhere: schools, churches, police stations, bus drivers, neighbors, coaches etc. As much as we would like, you can't be everywhere with your children, at every moment of the day- especially when they get to be teenagers. Even with parents around, if there is a will, there is a way- that's how predators operate. They know how to get around things. They are all usually nice as pie to gain everyones trust. And, I wouldn't just consider young girls getting taken advantage of, young boys get taken advantage of just the same.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Where's Waldo? ()
Date: September 07, 2013 03:44AM

Still no news on this guy?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Well... ()
Date: September 07, 2013 10:34AM

Let's burn this nigger.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: harsh ()
Date: September 07, 2013 03:31PM

I think therapy for him would be a good start. Burning him wouldn't cure his thoughts and behavior.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The Sandusky Syndrome ()
Date: September 07, 2013 03:39PM

Until this horrible illness, the Sandusky Syndrome, which leads to sexual abuse in child sports is understood, no more child sports can take place.

Note: artificial turf exacerbates the Sandusky Syndrome.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ?????? ()
Date: September 18, 2013 04:54AM

Wasn't this guy supposed to have a hearing this month?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: asdfadsfadsfad ()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:12PM

?????? Wrote:
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> Wasn't this guy supposed to have a hearing this
> month?

I haven't heard anything on it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Perception=Misconception ()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:23PM

The point the parent was making is that parents need to be accountable for their kids and keep a watchful eye over their children and those around them. They did not put the parents on trial.

We don't even know if the allegations are true or false.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Clarified ()
Date: September 20, 2013 12:25PM

Perception=Misconception Wrote:
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> The point the parent was making is that parents
> need to be accountable for their kids and keep a
> watchful eye over their children and those around
> them. They did not put the parents on trial.
>
> We don't even know if the allegations are true or
> false.

That is correct. Does anyone know when his hearing is?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sucker ()
Date: September 20, 2013 04:56PM

He was caught because he had a nude picture of the 12 year old girl that he had sex with on his phone and he was showing it to others. Wake up, stop making excuses for this guy. The police go the extra mile in cases like this because they do not want to arrest/accuse someone unless they have solid proof. The only question are there others

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: What happened??? ()
Date: September 20, 2013 06:41PM

Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
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> Va. basketball coach facing child porn, sex
> assault charges
> Wednesday - 8/7/2013, 11:53am
>
> WASHINGTON - A trainer and basketball coach in
> Virginia has been arrested and charged with sexual
> assault and solicitation of child pornography.
>
> The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says
> 39-year-old Marlow Mikassa Afshartous of Reston
> has provided basketball instruction at Claude
> Moore Recreation Center in Sterling and the
> now-closed Hoop Magic in Chantilly.
>
> Afshartous also is known as Marlow Talley.
> Authorities say he additionally participated with
> the Fairfax Stars and at Georgetown Day School.
>
> Investigators with the sheriff's office in June
> began looking into allegations that Afshartous had
> a sexual relationship with a female athlete under
> the age of 13. He was arrested last weekend with
> the help of Fairfax County police and is being
> held without bond.
>
> Authorities say they are continuing the
> investigation to see if there may be additional
> alleged victims. Anyone with information is asked
> to call 703-777-0475.

I checked and can't find any information on this guy, his court hearing, or anything. Anyone got the 411?
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: September 20, 2013 10:50PM

VABasketballParent2012 Wrote:
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> Not excusing him at all. Not putting parents on
> trial. Just making a point that "Time to BAN men
> from coaching" is not the answer.


Marlow Talley, that you, bro?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Get to know Homey ()
Date: September 21, 2013 05:17AM

Hello there my BRO-THA!

Your flabby coaches ass all sore from getting your back washed in the showers? Brotha gonna go crazy with no fried chicken or watermelon in the PoPo.

That's what happens when pedos teach girls how to swim, my BRO-THA!
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: September 21, 2013 09:54AM

Heard He had his preliminary hearing this week and apparently there was more than enough evidence from the victim and the investigation. He is staying behind bars until further notice. This had to be a very hard day for everyone involved. Just goes to show you, nobody is who they appear to be. Everyone has a skeleton in a closet somewhere. The victim has a long road of recovery ahead of her, that's for sure.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: svennestle ()
Date: September 21, 2013 06:31PM

yea ok. so a hand full of black teen girl basketball teem players.

who didn't have a female coach but a horny male coach (always a good idea)

are now suign VA schools and if that fails they'll claim descrimination

meanwhile who set the whole thing up ? they did

yes they set up a lawsuit , have a fall guy , likely no proof, and are suign is that right ?

===========================================

boston. school is forced to study slavery to unwilling studends for months on the year, esle they are sued. they do a class re-enactment. they sue becuase the word nigger was used

========================================

VA now funds colleges which have buildings controlled by foreingers that teach terrorist ideals. and make school loans (see WTOP)

========================================

NAACP is suing VA in many ways for descrimination: down to Richmond area they are suing multiply

why ? well they took over dc there is no whites left to claim descrimination against ! obviously .

===============================

there will never be a time they aren't going to cry about it. not even for free food and rent they will still get weapons and rob you

they will keep teaching their kids whites need to die and be erradicated

they don't care if your relatives weren't even from the same country

because it is a fucking CON GAME to start with. they are con artists and dangerous, that group

you don't see it in other countries, all that about whites owe blacks lawsuits still today and should be genocidally removed whenever blacks get an uper hadn. just the cities in the usa. not even in the country. they teach it in the cities still though.

it is a fucking CON GAME to start with. they are con artists and dangerous, that group. they talk allot of crap when they are caught stealing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Yeppers ()
Date: September 21, 2013 07:26PM

updates Wrote:
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> Heard He had his preliminary hearing this week and
> apparently there was more than enough evidence
> from the victim and the investigation. He is
> staying behind bars until further notice. This
> had to be a very hard day for everyone involved.
> Just goes to show you, nobody is who they appear
> to be. Everyone has a skeleton in a closet
> somewhere. The victim has a long road of recovery
> ahead of her, that's for sure.

When is the court date?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: September 23, 2013 01:40PM

If you are so sure of your "facts" why wasn't he charged with POSSESSION of Child Porn? You claim he was caught because he had a photo and showed it to people...that's possession, right? Where is the charge? Fact of the matter is you're talking out of your ass.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Back to you ()
Date: September 23, 2013 02:12PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> If you are so sure of your "facts" why wasn't he
> charged with POSSESSION of Child Porn? You claim
> he was caught because he had a photo and showed it
> to people...that's possession, right? Where is
> the charge? Fact of the matter is you're talking
> out of your ass.

how do you know he wasn't charged with it?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: September 23, 2013 11:26PM

If you aren't even aware of what his charges are I can't help you.


Back to you Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you are so sure of your "facts" why wasn't
> he
> > charged with POSSESSION of Child Porn? You
> claim
> > he was caught because he had a photo and showed
> it
> > to people...that's possession, right? Where is
> > the charge? Fact of the matter is you're
> talking
> > out of your ass.
>
> how do you know he wasn't charged with it?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Back to you ()
Date: September 24, 2013 04:59AM

Well I hope he's enjoying jail time.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Hmmmm ()
Date: September 24, 2013 04:26PM

CR00002557-80 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJ SEXUAL PENETRATION 10/22/2013 Active
CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA FORCIBLE SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 24, 2013 04:43PM

Yet some of you seem to think free play is bad for your kids and you need to drive them around in the gas guzzler to 10 different activities a week. Interesting?


Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Va. basketball coach facing child porn, sex
> assault charges
> Wednesday - 8/7/2013, 11:53am
>
> WASHINGTON - A trainer and basketball coach in
> Virginia has been arrested and charged with sexual
> assault and solicitation of child pornography.
>
> The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says
> 39-year-old Marlow Mikassa Afshartous of Reston
> has provided basketball instruction at Claude
> Moore Recreation Center in Sterling and the
> now-closed Hoop Magic in Chantilly.
>
> Afshartous also is known as Marlow Talley.
> Authorities say he additionally participated with
> the Fairfax Stars and at Georgetown Day School.
>
> Investigators with the sheriff's office in June
> began looking into allegations that Afshartous had
> a sexual relationship with a female athlete under
> the age of 13. He was arrested last weekend with
> the help of Fairfax County police and is being
> held without bond.
>
> Authorities say they are continuing the
> investigation to see if there may be additional
> alleged victims. Anyone with information is asked
> to call 703-777-0475.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Facts for you ()
Date: September 24, 2013 06:32PM

Hmmmm Wrote:
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> CR00002557-80 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJ
> SEXUAL PENETRATION 10/22/2013 Active
> CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT
> CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
> CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA
> FORCIBLE SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active

Wow, there you go Justhefacts. Facts, still standing behind your man?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Lots of Facts ()
Date: September 24, 2013 07:28PM

Facts for you Wrote:
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> Hmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > CR00002557-80 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJ
> > SEXUAL PENETRATION 10/22/2013 Active
> > CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> > APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> > CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> > APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> > CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND
> > APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
> > CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA
> SOLICIT
> > CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
> > CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA
> > FORCIBLE SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active
>
> Wow, there you go Justhefacts. Facts, still
> standing behind your man?

Justhefacts: It's...It's...It's...just a big misunderstanding...He's being framed...Yeah that's it...He's being framed because he's black.

Coming soon...Race Card defense!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: September 29, 2013 08:48PM

Facts for you Wrote:

>
> Wow, there you go Justhefacts. Facts, still
> standing behind your man?



Obviously you don't know how to read or something.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates? ()
Date: October 05, 2013 12:22PM

any updates on this case?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Updated ()
Date: October 06, 2013 03:48PM

updates? Wrote:
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> any updates on this case?


CR00002557-80 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJ SEXUAL PENETRATION 10/22/2013 Active
CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Active
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA FORCIBLE SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: If Convicted ()
Date: October 07, 2013 01:03PM

His next job will be an executive position with the ACLU or the DNC. He will have his pick.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: appeal ()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:29PM

Looks like he will be trying to appeal his bond tomorrow. He has been behind bars for 64 days. I am sure he wants out. Wonder what bond amount, if any, they will set for him?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: it's a shame ()
Date: October 07, 2013 03:48PM

but this will be a great learning lesson for a lot of people - you really don't know someone as well as you think you now them. ain't that right 'justthefacts'?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: childhoodfriend ()
Date: October 07, 2013 06:42PM

I personally have known Marlow since we were small kids and the man wouldn't hurt a fly. Never judge a book by his cover and this is a free country with laws which holds him innocent until proven guilty. It's sad people on here using the N word or making comments about a guy who would give the shirt off his back to help anyone. Where are other victims??? he is innocent and being nailed to a cross by the media

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Furthermore ()
Date: October 07, 2013 09:54PM

childhoodfriend Wrote:
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> It's sad people on here using the N word
> or making comments about a guy who would give the
> shirt off his back to help anyone.

Apparently, he'd give the pants off his groin to help someone in need as well. Especially if it was a young girl.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Make it racial ()
Date: October 07, 2013 11:38PM

childhoodfriend Wrote:
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> I personally have known Marlow since we were small
> kids and the man wouldn't hurt a fly. Never judge
> a book by his cover and this is a free country
> with laws which holds him innocent until proven
> guilty. It's sad people on here using the N word
> or making comments about a guy who would give the
> shirt off his back to help anyone. Where are other
> victims??? he is innocent and being nailed to a
> cross by the media

Always have to make it about race when all else fails. Been trying to get it in there but no one will bite. Do not care if he was white, yellow, brown a sex offender is a sex offender

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 01:32AM

it's a shame Wrote:
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> but this will be a great learning lesson for a lot
> of people - you really don't know someone as well
> as you think you now them. ain't that right
> 'justthefacts'?


What I am learning is that people who don't know anything make up whatever they want when someone is charged with a crime. Forget the fact that the person charged hasn't been convicted of anything. Sad little lives some people lead. I am sure you're going to be just as dishonest and critical when someone you know, possibly even a family member is arrested and charged with a crime. Hopefully you'll be arrested and trashed on the internet as well one day.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 01:34AM

Make it racial Wrote:

>
> Always have to make it about race when all else
> fails. Been trying to get it in there but no one
> will bite. Do not care if he was white, yellow,
> brown a sex offender is a sex offender



He is a sex offender? Please provide link to convictions. How about providing a link to the little "sex offender map" of Virginia with his name listed on it? Anything? So as usual, you'll make something up out of thin air to trash someone you don't know? Congratulations. Your life is full of purpose.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: is it just me? ()
Date: October 08, 2013 08:12AM

or does 'justthefacts' seem to have a super crush on Marlow?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Uh... ()
Date: October 08, 2013 08:35AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Make it racial Wrote:
>
> >
> > Always have to make it about race when all else
> > fails. Been trying to get it in there but no
> one
> > will bite. Do not care if he was white, yellow,
> > brown a sex offender is a sex offender
>
>
>
> He is a sex offender? Please provide link to
> convictions. How about providing a link to the
> little "sex offender map" of Virginia with his
> name listed on it? Anything? So as usual, you'll
> make something up out of thin air to trash someone
> you don't know? Congratulations. Your life is
> full of purpose.

Here you go...
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: skeletons ()
Date: October 08, 2013 09:02AM

While Marlow may have been a nice guy, he can still have skeletons in his closet. Just because you are nice or would give the shirt off your back, doesn't mean that he couldn't have crossed the line, even if there is no track record of him every doing this in the past. There is a first time for everything.
He was 39 and the victim was 12. Clearly he should have known better. I believe he has 2 young daughters. I can only hope that he would have thought about them in this scenario. Time will tell his fate.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: You dumass ()
Date: October 08, 2013 10:26AM

CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA FORCIBLE SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active

Justhefacts again here are the facts. Look and read these charges. How can you support a man charged with these? "Forcible Sodomy" means he ether forced a 12 year old girl to give him head or he forcefully put his dick into her ass. The child porn is from the naked picture of a 12 year old girl on his phone. If he was so great why did he not delete the picture. No he was showing it to others, that is how he got caught. Here is a fact I'm sure all reading this will agree, your a fuc*ing idiot

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:06PM

Uh... Wrote:
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>
> Here you go...


Complete fail...as I expected from a douchebag.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:07PM

skeletons Wrote:
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> While Marlow may have been a nice guy, he can
> still have skeletons in his closet. Just because
> you are nice or would give the shirt off your
> back, doesn't mean that he couldn't have crossed
> the line, even if there is no track record of him
> every doing this in the past. There is a first
> time for everything.
> He was 39 and the victim was 12. Clearly he
> should have known better. I believe he has 2
> young daughters. I can only hope that he would
> have thought about them in this scenario. Time
> will tell his fate.



I don't disagree with that...so let it play out in court instead of condemning him based on CHARGES.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:09PM

You dumass Wrote:
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> CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT
> CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013 Active
> CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA FORCIBLE
> SODOMY 10/22/2013 Active
>
> Justhefacts again here are the facts. Look and
> read these charges. How can you support a man
> charged with these? "Forcible Sodomy" means he
> ether forced a 12 year old girl to give him head
> or he forcefully put his dick into her ass. The
> child porn is from the naked picture of a 12 year
> old girl on his phone. If he was so great why did
> he not delete the picture. No he was showing it to
> others, that is how he got caught. Here is a fact
> I'm sure all reading this will agree, your a
> fuc*ing idiot


You seem to want to make yourself look more stupid with each post. READ THE FUCKING CHARGES. "SOLICITATION" isn't "POSSESSION". You keep talking about a photo, what photo? He isn't charged with possession. There is no photo. That is a fact. That's why they couldn't charge him with POSSESSION. You know the difference between the words "SOLICITATION" and "POSSESSION" I assume? No, probably not. As far as his other charges go. What is the definition of "CHARGE"? You seem to be having trouble with that one too. "CHARGE" doesn't mean "GUILTY." I think you just lack the ability to grasp basic concepts of the law and the English language.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:11PM

is it just me? Wrote:
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> or does 'justthefacts' seem to have a super crush
> on Marlow?


I merely have a crush on this country and the laws within it. People are not convicted of a crime just because they are charged with a crime.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: but I wonder ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:17PM

if 'justthefacts' would be comfortable letting Marlow hang out with his 12 year old daughter. personally, 'object sexual penetration' and 'forceable sodomy' CHARGES - yes CHARGES - are enough for me to just let this all go. Marlow is the one that will have to deal with all of this in the end. I just hope that you 'justthefacts' aren't so heartbroken after the trial that you can't go on...

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 08, 2013 12:56PM

but I wonder Wrote:
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> if 'justthefacts' would be comfortable letting
> Marlow hang out with his 12 year old daughter.
> personally, 'object sexual penetration' and
> 'forceable sodomy' CHARGES - yes CHARGES - are
> enough for me to just let this all go. Marlow is
> the one that will have to deal with all of this in
> the end. I just hope that you 'justthefacts'
> aren't so heartbroken after the trial that you
> can't go on...


Great. He has been around my family a great deal. So I guess it's time for you to let it go?

If he is found guilty, then he is guilty. Until then, he is presumed innocent.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Uh... ()
Date: October 08, 2013 01:24PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> but I wonder Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if 'justthefacts' would be comfortable letting
> > Marlow hang out with his 12 year old daughter.
> > personally, 'object sexual penetration' and
> > 'forceable sodomy' CHARGES - yes CHARGES - are
> > enough for me to just let this all go. Marlow
> is
> > the one that will have to deal with all of this
> in
> > the end. I just hope that you 'justthefacts'
> > aren't so heartbroken after the trial that you
> > can't go on...
>
>
> Great. He has been around my family a great deal.
> So I guess it's time for you to let it go?
>
> If he is found guilty, then he is guilty. Until
> then, he is presumed innocent.

And even if he is found guilty you can always do the "Jailhouse Rock"...
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: truthbeknown ()
Date: October 09, 2013 08:33AM

Wow! I guess there is enough evidence to deny him bond. He will have to stay in jail until his trial in March. Sad for everyone. I hope the victim will be okay mentally- that is a lot to carry, and I hope his family, especially his children can take each day at a time.

http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/basketball_coach_again_denied_bond529

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ()
Date: October 09, 2013 09:40AM

According to Cichocki, the abuse took place from April to November 2012 at three separate locations: Claude Moore Recreation Center, a church off Evergreen Mills Road and at an outdoor court on Braddock Road, west of Gum Spring Road. The victim stated that on multiple occasions, Afshartous would kiss her, and in other instances digitally penetrated her and once forced her to perform oral sex on him. The abuse occurred in the equipment room and also in Afshartous's SUV. In addition, investigators retrieved approximately 7,000 text messages on the victim's phone between her and Afshartous.

IF A MAN LIKE's to coach SO much COACH guys!!! OR maybe they would punk the shit out of you so you stay with GIRLS!!!!!...................

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ACLU Executive ()
Date: October 09, 2013 09:47AM

truthbeknown Wrote:
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> Wow! I guess there is enough evidence to deny him
> bond. He will have to stay in jail until his
> trial in March. Sad for everyone. I hope the
> victim will be okay mentally- that is a lot to
> carry, and I hope his family, especially his
> children can take each day at a time.
>
> http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/basketbal
> l_coach_again_denied_bond529

That's a shame. He's going to make a great spokesman for the ACLU in our quest for tolerance for pedophiles. Can't wait to hire him at the ACLU!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well well ()
Date: October 09, 2013 10:16AM

where is 'justthefacts' now?????

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: poor guy ()
Date: October 09, 2013 10:54AM

he's such a great guy and coach - surely this is all just a misunderstanding, right?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: just the facts redux ()
Date: October 09, 2013 11:41AM

It is of course the case that this defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

And extreme or racist statements don't bear on the facts of what actually happened.

But justthefacts needs some balance e in his/her comments. I am fascinated yet not surprised that so-called circumstantial evidence is often the most compelling evidence of all.

If it is indeed the case that the suspect either sent or received 7000 (yikes) text messages from the young girl, then it is easy to see why this guy cannot make bail. If there actually 7000 messages between the suspect and the girl, and given the other stated evidence, well, things look very, very dim for the suspect. And the problem with 7000 messages is that it is such a substantial body of work that the messages give insight into the state of mind and intent of the suspect.

Again, like it or not justthefacts, this does not bode well for the defendant and there is a reason he has been denied bond.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: shame ()
Date: October 09, 2013 11:48AM

It really is a shame. I can't understand why he felt a 12 year old could fix all of his problems. Where was his wife in all this? 7,000 text messages? Wasn't the wife suspicious of all his time on the phone? I guess that is where the saying, "what you allow will continue" comes in. There are NO WINNERS here. 2 families forever changed.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: it is more than just 2 families ()
Date: October 09, 2013 11:51AM

this will impact/change a lot of people's thinking going forward. there are a LOT of families that basically trusted Marlow completely with their kid(s).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: handsoftime ()
Date: October 09, 2013 12:04PM

I do believe this very well could have been Marlow's "first" sexual encounter with a youth. No other victims have come forward. But, I it only takes one, right? You don't need a mile long list of victims to prove someones wrong-doing. Sounds like he had an infatuation and got in over his head. His judgement may have been out of character for him, but it doesn't change the fact that what he did was so terribly wrong. If only he could turn back the hands of time. Sad, Sad, Sad.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: I predict ()
Date: October 09, 2013 02:25PM

that we won't hear another peep out of 'justthefacts' - pitiful all the way around.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: remember ()
Date: October 10, 2013 09:16AM

For all the good he may have done, this is what people will remember most about Marlow. Hoping therapy is in the works for everyone to understand why this has happened. What was he missing in his life?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: too many ()
Date: October 10, 2013 10:43AM

Let's all understand that there are male sexual predators coaching our girls and we need to pay attention to the warning signs.

You are naive if you think this is isolated and will never happen again.

There are mor eof these guys out there preying on these kids.

Lastly, to the idiot who trys to mimize this horrific act-you, are batcrazy.

Preying on a 12 year old can NEVER be described lightly as an infatuation of being in over one's head.

Respect the victim and choose your words mor ecarefully.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: you can't fix stupid ()
Date: October 10, 2013 11:01AM

arguing with an idiot only makes you one as well. and this comment isn't directed to any specific poster on this thread, just a thought I wanted to share. There are people who will go to their graves believing that Marlow is innocent, and likewise those that will believe he is guilty - regardless of whatever evidence is presented at trial, whatever the outcome of the trial, etc. etc. SO - if you have kids - pay attention to who they are spending their time with - especially time that is unsupervised.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: definition ()
Date: October 10, 2013 11:20AM

The definition of infatuation is: A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. I'm thinking this was an appropriate term to use to describe Marlow's thoughts or he wouldn't have continued for as long as the detective stated. My heart goes out to the victim. I hope she knows she did nothing wrong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Terry McCronyism ()
Date: October 10, 2013 11:52AM

If he's convicted as a pedophile, he'd automatically be qualified to run as a Democrat in the next election. Perhaps as governor, congressman, or even Senator!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Jennifer ()
Date: October 11, 2013 09:36PM

Is Sharyl Attkisson related to Todd Attkisson and did she comment yet on his recent arrest?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: everywhere ()
Date: October 12, 2013 10:56AM

Can't believe there are still people that believe this couldn't have happened. Good guy or not, remember Priests get a full following of worshippers and still are doing these things to kids. It happens everywhere and nobody is excluded. Praying for the victim.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: PackNforAmerica ()
Date: October 12, 2013 02:21PM

The life of this girl or Talley will ever be the same regardless of the outcome. Most of the negative comments on this post are either ignorant or racially motivated. Either way Stupid!!!!!!! Let the case take it's course....If guilty PUNISH HIM...If NOT APOLOGIZE, and prepare for a lawsuit

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Busted! ()
Date: October 14, 2013 12:41PM

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Wrote:
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> According to Cichocki, the abuse took place from
> April to November 2012 at three separate
> locations: Claude Moore Recreation Center, a
> church off Evergreen Mills Road and at an outdoor
> court on Braddock Road, west of Gum Spring Road.
> The victim stated that on multiple occasions,
> Afshartous would kiss her, and in other instances
> digitally penetrated her and once forced her to
> perform oral sex on him. The abuse occurred in the
> equipment room and also in Afshartous's SUV. In
> addition, investigators retrieved approximately
> 7,000 text messages on the victim's phone between
> her and Afshartous.
>
Guilty as charged.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: questions ()
Date: October 15, 2013 01:26PM

Busted! Wrote:
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> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > According to Cichocki, the abuse took place
> from
> > April to November 2012 at three separate
> > locations: Claude Moore Recreation Center, a
> > church off Evergreen Mills Road and at an
> outdoor
> > court on Braddock Road, west of Gum Spring
> Road.
> > The victim stated that on multiple occasions,
> > Afshartous would kiss her, and in other
> instances
> > digitally penetrated her and once forced her to
> > perform oral sex on him. The abuse occurred in
> the
> > equipment room and also in Afshartous's SUV. In
> > addition, investigators retrieved approximately
> > 7,000 text messages on the victim's phone
> between
> > her and Afshartous.
> >
> Guilty as charged.

How much time is he looking at, if found guilty on all charges?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: i would guess ()
Date: October 15, 2013 02:00PM

10-15 years.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: I still don't understand ()
Date: October 15, 2013 02:02PM

why was he denied bond?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: toomuch ()
Date: October 15, 2013 02:59PM

Bond was denied because there is too much evidence against him. Not sure if he has a criminal background or not. That may decide if/how much time he may get. Sad for both families.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Sad ()
Date: October 16, 2013 12:18AM

This is a sad story

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: toomuch ()
Date: October 16, 2013 08:12AM

Yes, it is. I am sure if there was a rewind button, it would be given a push.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 04:06AM

just the facts redux Wrote:
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> It is of course the case that this defendant is
> presumed innocent until proven guilty.
>
> And extreme or racist statements don't bear on the
> facts of what actually happened.
>
> But justthefacts needs some balance e in his/her
> comments. I am fascinated yet not surprised that
> so-called circumstantial evidence is often the
> most compelling evidence of all.
>
> If it is indeed the case that the suspect either
> sent or received 7000 (yikes) text messages from
> the young girl, then it is easy to see why this
> guy cannot make bail. If there actually 7000
> messages between the suspect and the girl, and
> given the other stated evidence, well, things look
> very, very dim for the suspect. And the problem
> with 7000 messages is that it is such a
> substantial body of work that the messages give
> insight into the state of mind and intent of the
> suspect.
>
> Again, like it or not justthefacts, this does not
> bode well for the defendant and there is a reason
> he has been denied bond.


I like to be singled out for some reason, but you came with a concise and interesting comment so I'll reply to it. First, I have stated, because it seems to have been missed by many...that Marlow very well could be found guilty. Very well could be guilty. That's not for me to determine.

Second, text messages between trainers and their clients are part of the business. They may very well show state of mind and bad things. They may also show absolutely nothing. To assume one way or the other isn't showing "balance" at all, like you said my comments didn't show.

Third, she says something happened. He says nothing happened. Obviously those text messages will have to show - beyond a reasonable doubt - that the events did happen as described. Do they? Neither you nor I can say yes or no, they do or don't. There is an extreme lack of physical evidence. An extreme lack of eyewitnesses. I know for a fact there were other kids around during some of these encounters. Kids from the same AAU team as the girl. The same girls whose parents just testified on his behalf. Even some of them attended some of these events. Not everything is as cut and dry as the prosecution is trying to make it look. During the bond hearing, that's their job. Make it look as bad as possible.

During the first bond hearing, they claimed multiple people were coming forward and new charges were pending. They denied his bond. This hearing, where were those statements? Where are the new charges? Where are the additional girls? In addition to all that, Virginia has a list of crimes where getting bond is almost impossible when you are charged with them. It's no secret. Marlow's charges just so happen to fall in that list.

Again, he very well may be guilty. I am not the one to make that determination. I will even say they may have enough to convict him even if he isn't actually guilty. I have known him for decades. He's been around my family. I am a competitor of his in the world of training. My personal feelings, after weighing everything I've seen and heard in the bond hearings and from him and his family, and just the mere fact I have known him so long, in my judgement, I don't see how this is possible. I don't see how he could have done this. That's my personal opinion. Yes, he could very well have and be convicted of it. If that happens, I feel sorry for his kids and his family. I will not feel sorry for him if he is convicted. I do feel bad for him right now because he has essentially been found guilty, locked up for months, without a trial. Nobody should be convicted without a trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 04:07AM

I predict Wrote:
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> that we won't hear another peep out of
> 'justthefacts' - pitiful all the way around.


Sorry, you are wrong again. Per usual.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: give it up ()
Date: October 17, 2013 07:59AM

'justthefacts' - no one wants to hear logical and well thought out explanations - it is much more fun to bash the brother.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: canhappen ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:28AM

From what I gather the victim and Marlow were alone on these encounters, so no other players were around. I don't think Marlow would be that stupid to do things in "front" of them. He did MANY 1 on 1 training sessions with his players. If there is a will there is a way. Just because you may know someone doesn't mean they can't have skeletons. Proof is proof. I am sad for both families.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: I will say it again ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:38AM

someone please explain to me the difference between this case against Marlow and the case down in Ashland, VA against Todd Attkisson. I have my own opinions as to why one was denied bond and one was not, but could someone please enlighten me, as I am often accused of being wrong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: whacko on board ()
Date: October 17, 2013 11:04AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> just the facts redux Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is of course the case that this defendant is
> > presumed innocent until proven guilty.
> >
> > And extreme or racist statements don't bear on
> the
> > facts of what actually happened.
> >
> > But justthefacts needs some balance e in
> his/her
> > comments. I am fascinated yet not surprised
> that
> > so-called circumstantial evidence is often the
> > most compelling evidence of all.
> >
> > If it is indeed the case that the suspect
> either
> > sent or received 7000 (yikes) text messages
> from
> > the young girl, then it is easy to see why this
> > guy cannot make bail. If there actually 7000
> > messages between the suspect and the girl, and
> > given the other stated evidence, well, things
> look
> > very, very dim for the suspect. And the
> problem
> > with 7000 messages is that it is such a
> > substantial body of work that the messages give
> > insight into the state of mind and intent of
> the
> > suspect.
> >
> > Again, like it or not justthefacts, this does
> not
> > bode well for the defendant and there is a
> reason
> > he has been denied bond.
>
>
> I like to be singled out for some reason, but you
> came with a concise and interesting comment so
> I'll reply to it. First, I have stated, because
> it seems to have been missed by many...that Marlow
> very well could be found guilty. Very well could
> be guilty. That's not for me to determine.
>
> Second, text messages between trainers and their
> clients are part of the business. They may very
> well show state of mind and bad things. They may
> also show absolutely nothing. To assume one way
> or the other isn't showing "balance" at all, like
> you said my comments didn't show.
>
> Third, she says something happened. He says
> nothing happened. Obviously those text messages
> will have to show - beyond a reasonable doubt -
> that the events did happen as described. Do they?
> Neither you nor I can say yes or no, they do or
> don't. There is an extreme lack of physical
> evidence. An extreme lack of eyewitnesses. I
> know for a fact there were other kids around
> during some of these encounters. Kids from the
> same AAU team as the girl. The same girls whose
> parents just testified on his behalf. Even some
> of them attended some of these events. Not
> everything is as cut and dry as the prosecution is
> trying to make it look. During the bond hearing,
> that's their job. Make it look as bad as
> possible.
>
> During the first bond hearing, they claimed
> multiple people were coming forward and new
> charges were pending. They denied his bond. This
> hearing, where were those statements? Where are
> the new charges? Where are the additional girls?
> In addition to all that, Virginia has a list of
> crimes where getting bond is almost impossible
> when you are charged with them. It's no secret.
> Marlow's charges just so happen to fall in that
> list.
>
> Again, he very well may be guilty. I am not the
> one to make that determination. I will even say
> they may have enough to convict him even if he
> isn't actually guilty. I have known him for
> decades. He's been around my family. I am a
> competitor of his in the world of training. My
> personal feelings, after weighing everything I've
> seen and heard in the bond hearings and from him
> and his family, and just the mere fact I have
> known him so long, in my judgement, I don't see
> how this is possible. I don't see how he could
> have done this. That's my personal opinion. Yes,
> he could very well have and be convicted of it.
> If that happens, I feel sorry for his kids and his
> family. I will not feel sorry for him if he is
> convicted. I do feel bad for him right now
> because he has essentially been found guilty,
> locked up for months, without a trial. Nobody
> should be convicted without a trial.


You. my dear, are nuts.

If you are his wife or family member just say so.

You sound crazy, not to mention, delusional.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: my guess here ()
Date: October 17, 2013 11:55AM

is that 'justthefacts' is either the wife, or perhaps actually Marlow himself via jail cell internet connection. Doesn't look like 'justthefacts' has commented on any other topic other than this one. Hey 'justthefacts' - try 'just the truth' and open your eyes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 12:44PM

canhappen Wrote:
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> From what I gather the victim and Marlow were
> alone on these encounters, so no other players
> were around. I don't think Marlow would be that
> stupid to do things in "front" of them. He did
> MANY 1 on 1 training sessions with his players.
> If there is a will there is a way. Just because
> you may know someone doesn't mean they can't have
> skeletons. Proof is proof. I am sad for both
> families.

"From what you gather" isn't fact nor is it evidence. The girl has even admitted during one episode there were other girls in the truck. THAT is a fact.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 12:46PM

whacko on board Wrote:
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>
>
> You. my dear, are nuts.
>
> If you are his wife or family member just say so.
>
> You sound crazy, not to mention, delusional.


Great. Now if you want to try and explain why you think I am delusional or nuts, feel free. Until then, you're an ignorant troll merely throwing out insults on the internet because you can't discuss FACTS.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 12:49PM

my guess here Wrote:
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> is that 'justthefacts' is either the wife, or
> perhaps actually Marlow himself via jail cell
> internet connection. Doesn't look like
> 'justthefacts' has commented on any other topic
> other than this one. Hey 'justthefacts' - try
> 'just the truth' and open your eyes.


You people keep making up your own facts about me so it's no wonder you are making up facts about this case. I've explained who I am and what my connection to Marlow is. No, I am not a family member or his wife. I am ashamed some of you live in this country because you obviously don't understand the rules, laws or your rights.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: oooohhhhhhh ()
Date: October 17, 2013 12:59PM

now I get it - 'justthefacts' really spells 'blind' or maybe it's 'juststupid'

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:03PM

oooohhhhhhh Wrote:
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> now I get it - 'justthefacts' really spells
> 'blind' or maybe it's 'juststupid'


With every post your ignorance shines through.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: question for you ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:08PM

so basically 'justthefacts' you are saying that the alleged victim is a complete liar - correct? she made it all up - everything. She is a complete liar and is doing this for what reason? Just want to make sure I have the facts straight, since you clearly seem to think you have all of them in order.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:10PM

this is so ridiculous - 'justthefacts' is just saying to stop jumping to conclusions - let the trial proceed, etc. good grief you people!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:13PM

question for you Wrote:
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> so basically 'justthefacts' you are saying that
> the alleged victim is a complete liar - correct?
> she made it all up - everything. She is a
> complete liar and is doing this for what reason?
> Just want to make sure I have the facts straight,
> since you clearly seem to think you have all of
> them in order.


I am not saying she's lying at all. I am also not saying Marlow is lying. Therein lies the difference. We don't have a complete picture of the actual evidence. Her word is indeed evidence, but is there ANYTHING to back it up? There were claims of a photo, where is this photo? Why hasn't he been charged with possession of said photo? All the charges against Marlow are based (so far) on her allegations. This system we live under doesn't work that way. Allegations don't mean guilt. I know it's a hard concept for some to grasp. He is getting a trial and at that point, the case will be backed up by evidence or it won't. Until then, claiming the one side or the other as "telling the truth" is nonsense. Remember the Duke rape case? Tawanna Brawley? Susan Smith? People can make claims and accusations all they want. They have to be substantiated.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:19PM

based on the examples you just threw out (Brawley, SMith, Duke) can I now presume that the alleged victim is white? you will say that it doesn't matter, but you know better.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:22PM

enough already Wrote:
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> based on the examples you just threw out (Brawley,
> SMith, Duke) can I now presume that the alleged
> victim is white? you will say that it doesn't
> matter, but you know better.


I'd rather not get into the specifics when it comes to this girl. I am not here to trash her. My examples were just the ones I could remember off the top of my head while I am at work.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:24PM

it's very sad all the way around, because they can't both be telling the truth. and even potentially more sad is the fact that the TRUTH may not even come out in the trial. but that's the system that we all live under. SAD.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 01:27PM

enough already Wrote:
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> it's very sad all the way around, because they
> can't both be telling the truth. and even
> potentially more sad is the fact that the TRUTH
> may not even come out in the trial. but that's
> the system that we all live under. SAD.


Both lived are impacted, no matter the outcome. Marlow can NEVER train again in NOVA if he is innocent. Obviously he can't if he is guilty. The girl has a stigma attached to her. Either she's a huge liar or she's a victim of a horrible crime. Neither person is going to be the same after this.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: roundnround ()
Date: October 17, 2013 03:09PM

This topic can go round and round. As someone mentioned, what is there to gain from a then young girl of 12 to make any of this up? I am sure she would much rather be concentrating on her family, friends, school and sports- like any typical teenager would be doing. I am sure going to hearings,courts and speaking of these things has to be so draining and sad. I truly believe people just have a hard time seeing people who they have known forever, be capable of such things. It's not like Marlow had a banner on his shirt to his friends or acquaintances letting them in on his second life. Of course they wouldn't see it. It truly is a sad time for both families involved.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 17, 2013 03:20PM

see - there you go - saying that Marlow had a 'second life' that none of us knew about. how do YOU know about it?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: just the facts redux ()
Date: October 17, 2013 03:48PM

Justhefacts - you are not balanced, and hence completely unpersuasive in your views.

Let's suppose the suspect is deemed not guilty (although that appears very unlikely).

Let's suppose further that the evidence at trial strongly suggests he was framed.

This is likely the best possible outcome one could imagine for him.

The problem remains is that he exchanged 7,000 texts with a 12 year old girl. He can't coach again because this alone reflects such horrible judgment. He simply cannot be around children, period.

Of course, you could believe that the detective fabricated the 7,000 text fact when he was publicly stating why bail was denied. This is incredibly highly unlikely, because to fabricate could put the entire prosecution at risk in terms of tainting potential jurors.

7,000 texts? Is it realistic to think the content of these texts was merely about making left handed lay-ups?

I think a dose of reality is in order, and no matter what your opinion of the 12 year old girl, there is no reason to believe that the suspect is in anything other than in deep trouble.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 17, 2013 03:58PM

we don't know the content of the 7,000 text messages. what - just because they supposedly exist we should suspect he molested this girl? is there something magic about the number 7,000? what if it had been 5,000 text messages? what if it had been a million text messages? how on the earth are you coming to the conclusion that Marlow should not be around children PERIOD simply because there are supposedly 7,000 text messages? good grief - I really hope that you aren't led to believe things that easily.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: go back and read this thread ()
Date: October 17, 2013 04:08PM

from the very beginning, 'justthefacts' has said how he/she feels - that 'teenaged girls are little drama queens'. none of us will ever convince 'justthefacts' that their beloved Marlow could do something so horrible.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: messages ()
Date: October 17, 2013 05:05PM

7,000 text messages leads me to believe that basketball wasn't the only thing on the coaches brain. Apparently, it looks like he had a lot of things to talk about. I am pretty sure the contents of them was pretty damaging being he was denied bond twice. I wonder if he is talking just as much to his attorney? I highly doubt it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Dumbass ()
Date: October 17, 2013 06:48PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> question for you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so basically 'justthefacts' you are saying that
> > the alleged victim is a complete liar - correct?
>
> > she made it all up - everything. She is a
> > complete liar and is doing this for what reason?
>
> > Just want to make sure I have the facts
> straight,
> > since you clearly seem to think you have all of
> > them in order.
>
>
> I am not saying she's lying at all. I am also not
> saying Marlow is lying. Therein lies the
> difference. We don't have a complete picture of
> the actual evidence. Her word is indeed evidence,
> but is there ANYTHING to back it up? There were
> claims of a photo, where is this photo? Why
> hasn't he been charged with possession of said
> photo? All the charges against Marlow are based
> (so far) on her allegations. This system we live
> under doesn't work that way. Allegations don't
> mean guilt. I know it's a hard concept for some
> to grasp. He is getting a trial and at that
> point, the case will be backed up by evidence or
> it won't. Until then, claiming the one side or
> the other as "telling the truth" is nonsense.
> Remember the Duke rape case? Tawanna Brawley?
> Susan Smith? People can make claims and
> accusations all they want. They have to be
> substantiated.
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013
Here is the charge for the naked photo. Get it right Justhefacts

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 07:59PM

Dumbass Wrote:

> CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT
> CHILD PORNOGRAPHY 10/22/2013
> Here is the charge for the naked photo. Get it
> right Justhefacts



We've been over this a few times dipshit. Do you understand English? The language/ What is the difference between SOLICIT and POSSESSION? Look them up please because you keep looking like an idiot.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:04PM

I am amazed at the ignorance of some of the posters here defending this animal.

All of these pedophiles groom their victims and they have a plan. They also give an appearence when necessary of being just the greatest guy who would do anything to help my kid be a success. That's what they want you to think. Lull you into a false sense of complacency. Just take a look at Jerry Sandusky at Penn State. He was considered a saint by some for the opportunities he gave his victims. Taking them to games, helping their families, etc etc. He was just setting the trap when he did all those "nice" things.

By the way, wouldnt it be relatively easy to determine if this 12 yr olds vagina had been invaded by a giant 39 yr old black cock?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:07PM

just the facts redux Wrote:
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> Justhefacts - you are not balanced, and hence
> completely unpersuasive in your views.
>
> Let's suppose the suspect is deemed not guilty
> (although that appears very unlikely).
>
> Let's suppose further that the evidence at trial
> strongly suggests he was framed.
>
> This is likely the best possible outcome one could
> imagine for him.
>
> The problem remains is that he exchanged 7,000
> texts with a 12 year old girl. He can't coach
> again because this alone reflects such horrible
> judgment. He simply cannot be around children,
> period.
>
> Of course, you could believe that the detective
> fabricated the 7,000 text fact when he was
> publicly stating why bail was denied. This is
> incredibly highly unlikely, because to fabricate
> could put the entire prosecution at risk in terms
> of tainting potential jurors.
>
> 7,000 texts? Is it realistic to think the content
> of these texts was merely about making left handed
> lay-ups?
>
> I think a dose of reality is in order, and no
> matter what your opinion of the 12 year old girl,
> there is no reason to believe that the suspect is
> in anything other than in deep trouble.


Right. First, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. I don't care what you guys think. Second, those 7000 texts, did you see them? Are you sure they exist? Let's just say they do for arguments sake. What did they say? You know? Who sent them? Were they all from Marlow? Were they all the girl? Was there anything inappropriate in them? If so, what was it? You'd rather just make up your own narrative than actually know the truth. That's your choice. But don't sit there on your stupid horse claiming any objectivity or trying to downgrade mine.


What you say is that one option is a bunch of fabricated texts. Highly unlikely. I don't even think that. But what you don't know is who sent what to whom. That you'd rather just come to the conclusion that Marlow is in the wrong. It isn't inappropriate to text with our clients. That's how we determine time and place to meet. That's how we keep up with their games...because we can't come see them all play all the time. That's how we see videos that they send to us asking us if it looks good. If you have no idea what it takes to be a trainer, then just say so, because it's very apparent. Where 6000 of the texts sent by Marlow? The girl? Please. Stop with the condescending attitude because you know nothing and are assuming a great deal.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:10PM

go back and read this thread Wrote:
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> from the very beginning, 'justthefacts' has said
> how he/she feels - that 'teenaged girls are little
> drama queens'. none of us will ever convince
> 'justthefacts' that their beloved Marlow could do
> something so horrible.




I stand behind that statement because I know it for a fact. I deal with them. But thanks for a valid point. It really helps your case.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:12PM

I think somebody should fry for having sent 7000 text messages. I dont care if it was him or her.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:12PM

Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am amazed at the ignorance of some of the
> posters here defending this animal.
>
> All of these pedophiles groom their victims and
> they have a plan. They also give an appearence
> when necessary of being just the greatest guy who
> would do anything to help my kid be a success.
> That's what they want you to think. Lull you into
> a false sense of complacency. Just take a look at
> Jerry Sandusky at Penn State. He was considered a
> saint by some for the opportunities he gave his
> victims. Taking them to games, helping their
> families, etc etc. He was just setting the trap
> when he did all those "nice" things.
>
> By the way, wouldnt it be relatively easy to
> determine if this 12 yr olds vagina had been
> invaded by a giant 39 yr old black cock?



And I am amazed people are convicted before they even have a trial and a chance to defend themselves.

And I wasn't aware Marlow was a pedophile. Any proof to back that up or is it just your ignorant opinion?

BTW, there was no intercourse alleged between the two so once again we have someone else making stupid statements and not knowing jack shit about the case.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:20PM

Will you be prepared to take back all your defenses when he ends up confessing to everything?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 17, 2013 08:59PM

Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Will you be prepared to take back all your
> defenses when he ends up confessing to everything?


Not sure what you mean? I don't have "defenses" for anything. I don't know what the outcome of his trial will be. The girl has allegations. Marlow has denied them. That's where we stand. Obviously, he has lied if he suddenly confesses to crimes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: just the facts redux ()
Date: October 17, 2013 09:04PM

just the facts - I am not on any, as you say, "stupid horse". I am reluctant to raise your obvious lack of education, especially since I am very much aware of my own education, with achievement at levels you likely cannot comprehend. But you brought stupid into the mix.....

And your use of language falls far short of the mark. I do not think it accurate to refer to my remarks as conscending. I am merely processing known facts (with a considerable knowledge of the criminal justice system) and am providing a reasonable amount of skepticism over pleas to non-culpability of the suspect while at the same time recognizing the principle of presumed innocence. One inescapable fact is the suspect cannot make bail. This is not serendipitous.

And kindly note that arriving at the conclusion as I am now that you lack education and intelligence (at least in the world I operate in) is not condescending but likely simply accurate.

Some evidence is overwhelmingly self-authenticating. Assume that the 7,000 texts were about subjects other than sex or topics which are inappropriate. Now, I would not in any way be willing to bet on that but let's just assume that is the case. As an adult who has coached young people (I was a NCAA All-American Division 1 athlete in my youth, for what it is worth), if any 12 year old girl texted me with such frequency, I would be calling her parents or guardians after about 10 texts, and would act like an adult to address and resolve the matter. Even without knowing the content of the texts, there is an obvious dependency problem which no mature adult man should enable. Accepting or receiving that many texts from a 12 year old girl is in no way consistent with the role of a coach, in which acting like a mature adult obtains primacy over substantive coaching skill. Boundaries are incredibly important with young people, and adults are responsible to set and maintain them.

Of course, in the real world, it is very likely these texts give a road map to an alleged crime. And that is the problem for you, isn't it? Because the law in no way will recognize your febrile thoughts that the 12 year old girl is manipulative or somehow culpable. Argue away all you want. The law will never see her as a responsible party (nor should it). That is indeed the rub here, and it would be wise for you to obtain the same conclusions. I am not sure this would help the suspect at this point, but accountability typically mitigates negative results at sentencing.

Finally, your posts reflect a cognitive dissonance and a moral problem. Society (at least civilized society) must place a high priority on protecting children. The frequency of child abuse is disturbing (certainly the Sandusky case has caused us all to focus on the issue), and your statements reflecting that the victim and the suspect here should be accorded equal status under the law are not only wrongheaded in terms of existing law and policy, at some level they reflect a significantly degree of immorality.

It might be a good idea to quit digging.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trainer ()
Date: October 17, 2013 09:12PM

I can't imagine a trainer inquiring about "a game", "a video", "practice times", "locations" to one of his players on a average of 40 texts per day. The texts had to have lots of other subject matter. Enough subject matter apparently to keep in jail without bond.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 18, 2013 07:20AM

It really does seem to me that 'justthefacts' is simply suggesting that we let the process take its course in the form of the trial. that's all. it just so happens that there are people on both sides of the issue that have strong feeings and will likely never change their perspectives - regardless of the evidence or lack thereof. It is interesting to me how people will so quickly form opinions, jump to conclusions and/or throw other people under the bus.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wellsaid ()
Date: October 18, 2013 07:49AM

Very well said "just the facts redux". Thank you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: guilty guilty guilty ()
Date: October 18, 2013 11:23AM

those are the words that you will be hearing come March.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 18, 2013 10:06PM

just the facts redux Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> just the facts - I am not on any, as you say,
> "stupid horse". I am reluctant to raise your
> obvious lack of education, especially since I am
> very much aware of my own education, with
> achievement at levels you likely cannot
> comprehend. But you brought stupid into the
> mix.....
>
> And your use of language falls far short of the
> mark. I do not think it accurate to refer to my
> remarks as conscending. I am merely processing
> known facts (with a considerable knowledge of the
> criminal justice system) and am providing a
> reasonable amount of skepticism over pleas to
> non-culpability of the suspect while at the same
> time recognizing the principle of presumed
> innocence. One inescapable fact is the suspect
> cannot make bail. This is not serendipitous.
>
> And kindly note that arriving at the conclusion as
> I am now that you lack education and intelligence
> (at least in the world I operate in) is not
> condescending but likely simply accurate.
>
> Some evidence is overwhelmingly
> self-authenticating. Assume that the 7,000 texts
> were about subjects other than sex or topics which
> are inappropriate. Now, I would not in any way be
> willing to bet on that but let's just assume that
> is the case. As an adult who has coached young
> people (I was a NCAA All-American Division 1
> athlete in my youth, for what it is worth), if any
> 12 year old girl texted me with such frequency, I
> would be calling her parents or guardians after
> about 10 texts, and would act like an adult to
> address and resolve the matter. Even without
> knowing the content of the texts, there is an
> obvious dependency problem which no mature adult
> man should enable. Accepting or receiving that
> many texts from a 12 year old girl is in no way
> consistent with the role of a coach, in which
> acting like a mature adult obtains primacy over
> substantive coaching skill. Boundaries are
> incredibly important with young people, and adults
> are responsible to set and maintain them.
>
> Of course, in the real world, it is very likely
> these texts give a road map to an alleged crime.
> And that is the problem for you, isn't it?
> Because the law in no way will recognize your
> febrile thoughts that the 12 year old girl is
> manipulative or somehow culpable. Argue away all
> you want. The law will never see her as a
> responsible party (nor should it). That is indeed
> the rub here, and it would be wise for you to
> obtain the same conclusions. I am not sure this
> would help the suspect at this point, but
> accountability typically mitigates negative
> results at sentencing.
>
> Finally, your posts reflect a cognitive dissonance
> and a moral problem. Society (at least civilized
> society) must place a high priority on protecting
> children. The frequency of child abuse is
> disturbing (certainly the Sandusky case has caused
> us all to focus on the issue), and your statements
> reflecting that the victim and the suspect here
> should be accorded equal status under the law are
> not only wrongheaded in terms of existing law and
> policy, at some level they reflect a significantly
> degree of immorality.
>
> It might be a good idea to quit digging.


This is great. You weren't being condescending and you defend it with the most condescending and hallucinatory post I think I've ever seen on any forum...anywhere on the internet.

You go Einstein. Go stick your degrees in your ass and divide by zero. I have no need to respond to your complete and total hot air filled words of knowledge.

Go find a Mensa site to post on. Obviously you're too smart to be on here, discussing menial stuff like this topic.

I'll leave you with this thought. You question my lack of education and knowledge yet what's funny is that it's irrelevant. You can have a doctorate and I could still be in high school. On THIS particular subject though, I PAINFULLY know more than you. I have spoken to Marlow's lawyer and her private investigator. I have been to both bond hearings and the preliminary hearing. I have spoken to Marlow. I have spoken with the girl's mother (I've known her for 5 years as well.) I have spoken with the police detective in charge. I know INFINITELY more than you when it comes to this case. So please, you continue to use your supreme intelligence to "guess" about what may or may not be true when it comes to this case. You look very smart to me. I am in awe. Idiot.

Talk to you later. (probably not)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 18, 2013 10:11PM

trainer Wrote:
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> I can't imagine a trainer inquiring about "a
> game", "a video", "practice times", "locations" to
> one of his players on a average of 40 texts per
> day. The texts had to have lots of other subject
> matter. Enough subject matter apparently to keep
> in jail without bond.


IF the texts even exist. IF Marlow sent any texts. The prosecution has told a few mistruths so far. And again, bond is pretty much a no go for certain crimes in Virginia.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 18, 2013 10:17PM

enough already Wrote:
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> It really does seem to me that 'justthefacts' is
> simply suggesting that we let the process take its
> course in the form of the trial. that's all. it
> just so happens that there are people on both
> sides of the issue that have strong feeings and
> will likely never change their perspectives -
> regardless of the evidence or lack thereof. It is
> interesting to me how people will so quickly form
> opinions, jump to conclusions and/or throw other
> people under the bus.




They've assumed that because I know Marlow, I all of a sudden will lie, cheat and steal to protect him. I don't care who it is, if they are convicted of a crime, they are no friend of mine. Problem is, he isn't convicted just yet and the trial has yet to happen. Most of these people don't have any idea what the actual evidence is, yet will gladly proclaim guilt. I've seen what they have. It's less than people have been told. That said, he could very well be guilty. I will change my association with him accordingly when the time comes, if the time comes. Until then, he's in jail from August to February awaiting a trial. If he's found not guilty, how is that fair? His life is ruined. His children miss him. He'll spend 6 months in jail before he can even get in court to defend himself. Something is wrong with that. It is a different subject, but still bothers me.

I feel bad for both parties involved. That's not going to change any time soon and it's not going to change whether he's innocent or guilty. I know for a fact both families are suffering.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 18, 2013 11:59PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> >
> I have no need to respond
> to your complete and total hot air filled words of
> knowledge.
>


Haha....you write this then proceed to spew 18 more sentences. What does it look like when you DO have a need to respond?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: bothsides? ()
Date: October 19, 2013 12:08PM

I can't imagine the mom to the victim would be associating with "Just the Facts", if he/her are also associating themselves with Marlow, being it is apparent "Just the Facts" is very TEAM MARLOW. How are you in communications with both sides? Will you or have you testified, too? Or, are you making some of this stuff up? Just doesn't make sense.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 19, 2013 12:21PM

If "justthefacts" was actually intimately involved with this case, I doubt he/she would be blabbering all over FFXU. That would not be a smart move.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 19, 2013 12:36PM

bothsides? Wrote:
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> I can't imagine the mom to the victim would be
> associating with "Just the Facts", if he/her are
> also associating themselves with Marlow, being it
> is apparent "Just the Facts" is very TEAM MARLOW.
> How are you in communications with both sides?
> Will you or have you testified, too? Or, are you
> making some of this stuff up? Just doesn't make
> sense.


Then I am sorry you can't fathom it. And again, I am not on a side except justice, truth and the process. I have merely not convicted Marlow before the trial. I don't "associate" with the mother, I know her and have spoken to her briefly. But by all means, assume whatever you like. It doesn't matter to me because you and the lynch mob are characters in a cartoon.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 19, 2013 12:39PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> If "justthefacts" was actually intimately involved
> with this case, I doubt he/she would be blabbering
> all over FFXU. That would not be a smart move.


Unless I am Marlow's lawyer or the prosecutor, or some kind of witness, I don't see why it would be an issue? Everything I have "revealed" has been said in open court. I haven't revealed the names of the victim nor her mother. If I was "team Marlow" then I would do anything and everything to make her look bad, no? I just want people to stop saying things that aren't true. Talking shit about things they don't know about. How about we wait until the trial to convict a man? That's been my point from day one.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: bothsides? ()
Date: October 19, 2013 01:08PM

If you weren't so involved, why would you be talking to the victims detective? I doubt he would be giving up his time to sit with you unless you had some insight to something that would be beneficial to his case. And then you claim you talk to the perpetrator's lawyer and detective. The only way you can talk to Marlow is behind glass. So, that means you are taking the time out to visit him in jail. That to me is TEAM MARLOW.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 19, 2013 02:20PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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It
> doesn't matter to me because you and the lynch mob
> are characters in a cartoon.

And the cartoon is called "The World According to Justthefacts" and you are the lead looney tune!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Dumbass ()
Date: October 19, 2013 04:57PM

Justhefacts has to be a brother or sister who is pro Marlow from day 1. He should not be convicted if this because he is the victim. The man is just trying to hold him back. No one is being fair because he is black. Justhefacts hS hinted to this several times just waiting to pounce the race card. Even when convinced of this crime Justhefacts will be saying Marlow is innocent.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 19, 2013 06:16PM

I wonder if justthefacts has contacted Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson aka the Black KKK yet?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 19, 2013 11:37PM

bothsides? Wrote:
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> If you weren't so involved, why would you be
> talking to the victims detective? I doubt he
> would be giving up his time to sit with you unless
> you had some insight to something that would be
> beneficial to his case. And then you claim you
> talk to the perpetrator's lawyer and detective.
> The only way you can talk to Marlow is behind
> glass. So, that means you are taking the time out
> to visit him in jail. That to me is TEAM MARLOW.


He's not "the victim's detective." He is the detective in charge of the STATE's case. His job is to ascertain the facts. He isn't the cheerleader for the victim, he is there to find the truth. Maybe that's why you can't comprehend that Marlow is innocent until he is found guilty in court.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 19, 2013 11:41PM

Dumbass Wrote:
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> Justhefacts has to be a brother or sister who is
> pro Marlow from day 1. He should not be convicted
> if this because he is the victim. The man is just
> trying to hold him back. No one is being fair
> because he is black. Justhefacts hS hinted to this
> several times just waiting to pounce the race
> card. Even when convinced of this crime
> Justhefacts will be saying Marlow is innocent.


Yes, because Marlow has so many siblings. If he is innocent, then Marlow is a victim. If he is not, then he isn't a victim. His innocence or guilt comes via trial. See how that works? And I haven't mentioned a single time that I thought Marlow was being railroaded because he is black. Lastly, I don't know how many times I have to repeat the same thing. If Marlow is guilty, then he is a criminal and will rot in jail. I will never speak to him again. The only thing I am affording him is the benefit of a trial, like I would give to anyone else.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 19, 2013 11:43PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> I wonder if justthefacts has contacted Al Sharpton
> and Jesse Jackson aka the Black KKK yet?


And why would I do that?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wondering? ()
Date: October 20, 2013 10:06AM

You claim you have seen the evidence and it is less than what people are told? So, are you saying the victim's statements are lies? My guess is, the only evidence you have seen, just like everyone else, is what was brought up in the hearings and written in the newspaper. (I don't think they are giving you any extra privileges to their case, being you are just a Marlow supporter.) The lead Detective clearly stated that Marlow wiped his phone clean of all content. That in itself is a guilty of something move. If he had nothing to hide, he wouldn't have worked on his phone knowing the police were going to take it. You know the big evidence won't come out until the trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 20, 2013 10:22AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder if justthefacts has contacted Al
> Sharpton
> > and Jesse Jackson aka the Black KKK yet?
>
>
> And why would I do that?

Saving the race card to be played later?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 01:31PM

wondering? Wrote:
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> You claim you have seen the evidence and it is
> less than what people are told? So, are you saying
> the victim's statements are lies? My guess is, the
> only evidence you have seen, just like everyone
> else, is what was brought up in the hearings and
> written in the newspaper. (I don't think they are
> giving you any extra privileges to their case,
> being you are just a Marlow supporter.) The lead
> Detective clearly stated that Marlow wiped his
> phone clean of all content. That in itself is a
> guilty of something move. If he had nothing to
> hide, he wouldn't have worked on his phone knowing
> the police were going to take it. You know the
> big evidence won't come out until the trial.



First, I didn't claim I saw "all" evidence. Second, yes, not only seen what was presented during the hearings, I've spoken to Marlow and his lawyer. Do you not think they are privy to what the prosecution has?

As far as his phone being clean, what happens when you download new IOS to an iphone? What happens when you lose your phone and have to get a replacement? I am not saying this is what happened to Marlow in this case, I am just showing you that there are a few reasons why a phone could be "wiped." And let's say for the sake of argument that it was wiped, is that illegal? Is that a crime? Something else you want to convict him of? As has been stated before, they have her phone and whatever was on there. They also have the records from the phone company. The only thing that could be "missing" because he "wiped" his phone is this so called photo he asked for. Even in that case, an erased phone isn't going to hide it. It can be retrieved in most cases. So yeah, while it makes things sound more nefarious, it really means nothing that the detective claimed Marlow's phone was "wiped." Also, he didn't know the police were going to take his phone ahead of time. He was called in for an interview and it was taken from him. He had no idea why he was even called in. He went in voluntarily as well. Why would someone who "knows he is guilty" even bother going in without a lawyer? I mean, he's smart enough to "wipe" a phone yet not smart enough to get a lawyer when he knows he's in trouble?

Make up your mind. Either he's some kind of criminal mastermind or a complete imbecile.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 01:33PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stabitha Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I wonder if justthefacts has contacted Al
> > Sharpton
> > > and Jesse Jackson aka the Black KKK yet?
> >
> >
> > And why would I do that?
>
> Saving the race card to be played later?

The only one concerned about race seems to be you. Race may or may not be a factor in this case. I can't read people's minds and there's no evidence that race is a factor so I have no need to claim it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wonder? ()
Date: October 20, 2013 02:55PM

I can almost guarantee he definitely knew why he was called in. He has had all of this tucked in his brain for over a year. I don't think he realized the magnitude of evidence that still remained and with no past criminal history, he probably felt he was in the clear of a lawyer. Bringing a lawyer could be looked at as guilt. I find it ironic of how "close" you are to Marlow and this whole investigation, but you will ditch him like a hot potato on his verdict. Wondering if you told him that face to face?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 20, 2013 05:30PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> I've spoken to Marlow and his
> lawyer. Do you not think they are privy to what
> the prosecution has?

Why on earth would the defendant's lawyer talk to you about the evidence? There is something called atty client privacy and I dont see how that would include you, unless his lawyer is a complete shithead.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 20, 2013 05:31PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> > Make up your mind. Either he's some kind of
> criminal mastermind or a complete imbecile.

Well, there's your answer. Only a complete imbecile would have naked pictures of a 12 yr old on his phone.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Dumbass ()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:46PM

As far as his phone being clean, what happens when you download new IOS to an iphone? What happens when you lose your phone and have to get a replacement? I am not saying this is what happened to

What happens when you are guilty and you want to hide evidence? You clear your text messages so no one can read them but the victim still has them. Updating phone does not clear text out. Your reaching for reasons to help your butt buddy Marlow

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:52PM

wonder? Wrote:
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> I can almost guarantee he definitely knew why he
> was called in. He has had all of this tucked in
> his brain for over a year. I don't think he
> realized the magnitude of evidence that still
> remained and with no past criminal history, he
> probably felt he was in the clear of a lawyer.
> Bringing a lawyer could be looked at as guilt. I
> find it ironic of how "close" you are to Marlow
> and this whole investigation, but you will ditch
> him like a hot potato on his verdict. Wondering
> if you told him that face to face?


Your guarantee means jack shit. I've already asked Marlow if he knew why they called him in, he said no. There goes what you know in one little sentence. How is it "ironic?" If he is a convicted pedophile it wouldn't be in my best interest to openly associate with him. That's just life. He knows this. If he wanted to call me or have me visit I would do it because he is still a friend. And it is a problematic issue I would have to think harder on at the moment. I know what I want to do and what I should do, but who knows exactly what will happen if he is convicted. Either way, I am still of the feeling he is not guilty so it's something I don't have to worry about at this time.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:54PM

Dumbass Wrote:
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>
> What happens when you are guilty and you want to
> hide evidence? You clear your text messages so no
> one can read them but the victim still has them.
> Updating phone does not clear text out. Your
> reaching for reasons to help your butt buddy
> Marlow



Sure, that's one OPINION. That's all it is, OPINION. You treat opinion like fact though, so it's no wonder that particular opinion would be the one you'd use. All you have in the fact category is that his phone was supposedly "wiped." How and why it got that way is a matter of OPINION.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:56PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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>
> Why on earth would the defendant's lawyer talk to
> you about the evidence? There is something called
> atty client privacy and I dont see how that would
> include you, unless his lawyer is a complete
> shithead.


Thanks for your opinion. His counsel seems competent to me though.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 06:57PM

Stabitha Wrote:

> Well, there's your answer. Only a complete
> imbecile would have naked pictures of a 12 yr old
> on his phone.



Did he? Proof?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 20, 2013 07:01PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Why on earth would the defendant's lawyer talk
> to
> > you about the evidence? There is something
> called
> > atty client privacy and I dont see how that
> would
> > include you, unless his lawyer is a complete
> > shithead.
>
>
> Thanks for your opinion. His counsel seems
> competent to me though.

That still doesnt explain why you would be privy to information shared between Atty/Client. Unless you are a family member, which would negate every single fucking thing you have written here.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 20, 2013 10:00PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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>
> That still doesnt explain why you would be privy
> to information shared between Atty/Client. Unless
> you are a family member, which would negate every
> single fucking thing you have written here.


You know "attorney" and "client" are two people, correct? On top of that, I never said exactly what the attorney has said, merely that I have spoken to her and her investigators.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 20, 2013 11:31PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > That still doesnt explain why you would be
> privy
> > to information shared between Atty/Client.
> Unless
> > you are a family member, which would negate
> every
> > single fucking thing you have written here.
>
>
> You know "attorney" and "client" are two people,
> correct? On top of that, I never said exactly
> what the attorney has said, merely that I have
> spoken to her and her investigators.

Duh? That's what the / was for!

So now youre going to start backpedaling? What do you and his Lawyer discuss.....the weather? The economy?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:37AM

Stabitha Wrote:

> Duh? That's what the / was for!
>
> So now youre going to start backpedaling? What do
> you and his Lawyer discuss.....the weather? The
> economy?



Backpedaling from what? What did I say the lawyer and I spoke about? Please tell me.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:00AM

You are dense. I asked you.......WHY would the defendants Lawyer discuss anything about the case with you with YOU?

You seemed all too anxious to tell us you have had "discussions" with the lawyer and investigators.

WHY WHY WHY would they be talking to you about this case.

Simple question. Can you provide a simple answer?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: let me solve this riddle ()
Date: October 21, 2013 09:15AM

since so many people seem to need desperately to know who 'justthefacts' is - think about it - it is the parent of one of the teammates of the alleged victim. those girls played and trained together for years. the parents get to know each other pretty well. it becomes a familiar and comfortable relationship. So comfortable and familiar that parents then let their 12 year old daughters travel alone with their coaches and/or trainers. It happens all of the time. If you have a daughter and she is training or being coached by a male - do yourself a favor - be present - be visible - don't get too comfortable.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: enough already ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:01AM

not that it matters, but you just may be on to something.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: easy answer ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:34AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> You are dense. I asked you.......WHY would the
> defendants Lawyer discuss anything about the case
> with you with YOU?
>
> You seemed all too anxious to tell us you have had
> "discussions" with the lawyer and investigators.
>
> WHY WHY WHY would they be talking to you about
> this case.
>
> Simple question. Can you provide a simple answer?

It is so easy to answer this. Justthefacts = Marlow´s wife who thinks he hasn´t done anything wrong and is being falsely accused. That´s why justthefacts knows so much and has in fact talked to both Marlow and his lawyer. I regocnise the way she writes, very easy to know who she is.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:49AM

Well if this is true, then she better STFU and stay off of here because she could very well be called as a witness when this goes to trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:03AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> You are dense. I asked you.......WHY would the
> defendants Lawyer discuss anything about the case
> with you with YOU?
>
> You seemed all too anxious to tell us you have had
> "discussions" with the lawyer and investigators.
>
> WHY WHY WHY would they be talking to you about
> this case.
>
> Simple question. Can you provide a simple answer?


You're asking me to answer a question that's suited for the lawyer and the investigators. I don't know WHY WHY WHY they would or would not do something.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:05AM

let me solve this riddle Wrote:
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> since so many people seem to need desperately to
> know who 'justthefacts' is - think about it - it
> is the parent of one of the teammates of the
> alleged victim. those girls played and trained
> together for years. the parents get to know each
> other pretty well. it becomes a familiar and
> comfortable relationship. So comfortable and
> familiar that parents then let their 12 year old
> daughters travel alone with their coaches and/or
> trainers. It happens all of the time. If you
> have a daughter and she is training or being
> coached by a male - do yourself a favor - be
> present - be visible - don't get too comfortable.


Wrong. I have discussed who I am and I am not sure why the obsession?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:08AM

easy answer Wrote:

> It is so easy to answer this. Justthefacts =
> Marlow´s wife who thinks he hasn´t done anything
> wrong and is being falsely accused. That´s why
> justthefacts knows so much and has in fact talked
> to both Marlow and his lawyer. I regocnise the way
> she writes, very easy to know who she is.



Wrong again. You guys can't read what I wrote throughout the thread?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:10AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Well if this is true, then she better STFU and
> stay off of here because she could very well be
> called as a witness when this goes to trial.


I doubt very much I'd be call to testify in the trial except as character witness for the girl or Marlow. I wasn't present during the alleged crimes nor had any knowledge of them.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:12AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
---------------------
> I doubt very much I'd be call to testify in the
> trial except as character witness for the girl or
> Marlow. I wasn't present during the alleged
> crimes nor had any knowledge of them.

So you know the girl (alleged victim) as well?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:15AM

Interesting... Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> ---------------------
> > I doubt very much I'd be call to testify in the
> > trial except as character witness for the girl
> or
> > Marlow. I wasn't present during the alleged
> > crimes nor had any knowledge of them.
>
> So you know the girl (alleged victim) as well?


Met her and her mother a few times at different gyms. Known Marlow for a long time.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:20AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Interesting... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Justthefacts Wrote:
> > ---------------------
> > > I doubt very much I'd be call to testify in
> the
> > > trial except as character witness for the
> girl
> > or
> > > Marlow. I wasn't present during the alleged
> > > crimes nor had any knowledge of them.
> >
> > So you know the girl (alleged victim) as well?
>
>
> Met her and her mother a few times at different
> gyms. Known Marlow for a long time.


What do you know about them? I guess really the question is, how well do you know them and what have you heard from others?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:29AM

Interesting... Wrote:

>
> What do you know about them? I guess really the
> question is, how well do you know them and what
> have you heard from others?



What is it you're trying to get at? I'd rather not discuss anything about the alleged victim or her mother. I am not claiming to be great friends or anything and I have only seen them once after all this started, which is where we had a short conversation.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trust me ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:47AM

I am sure that the alleged victim and her mother both would like for you to SHUT THE F UP about the case. seriously - just shut up already. We get it - you think you know the truth - whatever - stop trying to convince people to share your view. You can believe whatever you want to believe - and the rest of the people will believe what they want to believe.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:56AM

trust me Wrote:
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> I am sure that the alleged victim and her mother
> both would like for you to SHUT THE F UP about the
> case. seriously - just shut up already. We get
> it - you think you know the truth - whatever -
> stop trying to convince people to share your view.
> You can believe whatever you want to believe -
> and the rest of the people will believe what they
> want to believe.



I don't care if people believe what I believe. People obviously believe what they want. I don't claim to know the truth either. I am merely stating that Marlow gets a trial. But I am glad we have people here like you who are here to put ME in their place and let others just make up whatever they want about Marlow, the girl and this case. You keep up the good work.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 11:56AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are dense. I asked you.......WHY would the
> > defendants Lawyer discuss anything about the
> case
> > with you with YOU?
> >
> > You seemed all too anxious to tell us you have
> had
> > "discussions" with the lawyer and investigators.
>
> >
> > WHY WHY WHY would they be talking to you about
> > this case.
> >
> > Simple question. Can you provide a simple
> answer?
>
>
> You're asking me to answer a question that's
> suited for the lawyer and the investigators. I
> don't know WHY WHY WHY they would or would not do
> something.

Nice deflection.

Obviously, you are related to the accused in some fashion because I can think of no other rational reason why they would even have a discussion with you.

You honestly are saying you dont know why they would talk to you?

You are completely full of shit.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:02PM

Stabitha Wrote:

>
> Nice deflection.
>
> Obviously, you are related to the accused in some
> fashion because I can think of no other rational
> reason why they would even have a discussion with
> you.
>
> You honestly are saying you dont know why they
> would talk to you?
>
> You are completely full of shit.



Just like with the case, you have no idea what you're talking about. I am not related to Marlow. I've said who I am several times. I am not sure why you're so angry or continuing to make shit up. It must be a game for you?

They asked me questions. They told me what they could about various things. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:09PM

Im hardly angry. Just annoyed by your BS.

Please link the post that you claim identifies who you are.

And since you have claim to have no relevant relation to the case, I guess I could call his lawyer and have a discussion about the case since I dont either? According to you, lawyers just speak to random people about cases involving their clients.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:14PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Im hardly angry. Just annoyed by your BS.
>
> Please link the post that you claim identifies who
> you are.
>
> And since you have claim to have no relevant
> relation to the case, I guess I could call his
> lawyer and have a discussion about the case since
> I dont either? According to you, lawyers just
> speak to random people about cases involving their
> clients.


You are angry. Annoyed is good enough of a description though.

You're right, you can call his lawyer and discuss it if you want. I bet they won't discuss much with you, if anything. I never said I was random or had no connection to the people involved. I said I had no relevance to the CASE. I didn't witness anything nor did I have any information about the CASE. I could only speak to them about what I know about the people involved.

What's your endgame here? What is it you're trying to say? What is it you want?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:16PM

If you have no relevance or knowledge, how are you so sure he's not guilty?

What is your relationship to the "people involved" that the lawyer would want your input?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/21/2013 12:17PM by Stabitha.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:17PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> If you have no relevance or knowledge, how are you
> so sure he's not guilty?


Because that is how our system works. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. He hasn't had a trial yet.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:19PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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>
> What is your relationship to the "people involved"
> that the lawyer would want your input?


I am not going to get into details. I am a basketball trainer in Northern VA. I've known Marlow a long time. Worked with the girl in the past.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:20PM

I like how you conveniently ignore the questions you cant answer.

Well fine, have fun in your dreamland. You come on here purporting to have knowledge about this case, but when called on the carpet you deflect and deny.

You should work for Obozo!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:22PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > What is your relationship to the "people
> involved"
> > that the lawyer would want your input?
>
>
> I am not going to get into details. I am a
> basketball trainer in Northern VA. I've known
> Marlow a long time. Worked with the girl in the
> past.

Finally after 50 posts you fess up.

So, basically you are a close friend of the defendant. Makes sense now why you would be saying the things you say.

Now was that difficult?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:23PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> I like how you conveniently ignore the questions
> you cant answer.
>
> Well fine, have fun in your dreamland. You come on
> here purporting to have knowledge about this case,
> but when called on the carpet you deflect and
> deny.
>
> You should work for Obozo!


You're unhinged. You just claimed you weren't angry yet now you're bringing up Obama in a disparaging remark? What for? And what questions haven't I answered? I thought I did a good job providing answers to what I could. Sorry they weren't good enough for you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:26PM

Stabitha Wrote:


> Finally after 50 posts you fess up.
>
> So, basically you are a close friend of the
> defendant. Makes sense now why you would be saying
> the things you say.
>
> Now was that difficult?


What are you talking about? Please go back and read this thread because you apparently have no idea how to read if you are trying to claim you have. I have repeated the same things over and over about my relationship with Marlow. Obviously if he is going to see me or talk to me from jail I would have to know him in some way? Did I ever deny that I did? Your a troll of utmost proportion.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:27PM

See above....all you had to do was say youre the defenadants bud and this would have ended long ago.

Case closed.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:29PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> See above....all you had to do was say youre the
> defenadants bud and this would have ended long
> ago.
>
> Case closed.


It wouldn't have started if you had actually read the thread. Way to go Sherlock. You've pointed out your own ineptness.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:32PM

Why should I read 5 pages of posts when I could just go to the source....YOU!

Youre the one who dragged this out for days.

Like I said, youre his buddy and that explains everything. You are going to take his word over the victim, witnesses, and the cops. That's how the world works. No mystery there.

One thing I am suprised about is I didnt know "friends" could visit/communicate with inmates awaiting trial. I thought that was restricted to family and lawyer.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:36PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Interesting... Wrote:
>
> >
> > What do you know about them? I guess really the
> > question is, how well do you know them and what
> > have you heard from others?
>
>
>
> What is it you're trying to get at? I'd rather
> not discuss anything about the alleged victim or
> her mother. I am not claiming to be great friends
> or anything and I have only seen them once after
> all this started, which is where we had a short
> conversation.

Just curious, maybe your a good contact for the detectives to talk to. Granted you might not know much about the case, but you might know someone (or several someones) that could answer some more questions about the case.

For example, did anything like this happen when you coached with this particular alleged victim or anything similiar? Maybe something with the alleged victim with another coach?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well well ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:49PM

if 'justthefacts' is another trainer in NOVA, he must be jumping for joy - he just picked up a ton of clients!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:49PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Why should I read 5 pages of posts when I could
> just go to the source....YOU!
>
> Youre the one who dragged this out for days.
>
> Like I said, youre his buddy and that explains
> everything. You are going to take his word over
> the victim, witnesses, and the cops. That's how
> the world works. No mystery there.
>
> One thing I am suprised about is I didnt know
> "friends" could visit/communicate with inmates
> awaiting trial. I thought that was restricted to
> family and lawyer.


Wrong again. I have listened to what he has to say. I believe what he has to say. I have taken what he said and what the lawyer said, added to that my experiences in the world of training and coaching, added to that the story the prosecution has tried to weave and the evidence they have claimed they have (at least what they've shown in court and to Marlow's lawyer.) I have taken all that and formulated an opinion. It doesn't make it true. If you had bothered to read the thread, you wouldn't be looking foolish. Again, my opinion is separate from the plain and simple fact that Marlow hasn't been convicted of anything. He hasn't had a trial yet. I say all this knowing the girl hasn't shown me anything (in the little I know of her) that would make me think she is making all this up out of thin air. Doesn't mean she isn't making it up. Doesn't mean I think she is. I honestly don't know. From what I have seen and heard, there seem to be inconsistencies in the case the prosecution has presented. Inconsistencies in her story. Again, my opinion.

That said, if I had spoken to Marlow and what he said didn't jive. Or the lawyer said "we're going to take a deal" or "we think he's guilty", or I merely felt that the evidence shows without a doubt that he did what he is accused of, I wouldn't have spoken to him or had any involvement at all with him or his lawyer. I am a responsible and pragmatic person. I have a family. I have no reason to associate with someone I believe to be a pedophile, friend or not. If he is found guilty and the evidence is clear, then I again feel that I would disassociate myself with him. And yes, it is a tough thing. Until you're here, you have no idea what the thoughts are that I have to contend with.


Again, the trial will tell a lot. It will decide a lot. It will decide the fate of the two people involved and it will decide the fate of a lot of the relationships those two have. Hopefully the trial will show us the complete and total truth and everyone can get some closure. Even the trolls on here just randomly making comments and having no clue what they are talking about.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 12:59PM

Interesting... Wrote:
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>
> Just curious, maybe your a good contact for the
> detectives to talk to. Granted you might not know
> much about the case, but you might know someone
> (or several someones) that could answer some more
> questions about the case.
>
> For example, did anything like this happen when
> you coached with this particular alleged victim or
> anything similiar? Maybe something with the
> alleged victim with another coach?


The fact of the matter is, and will always be, I never saw anything out of her that would lead me to believe she is a bad kid or would do something like this. I also have never seen anything out of Marlow or heard anything that would lead me to believe he is capable of this. That said, I've heard rumors about both. They are nothing more than rumor though. People who tend to dislike the girl, talk smack about her. People who dislike Marlow, talk smack about him. I've known Marlow way longer and know more about him so obviously the opinion I form of him is more relevant in my world.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:01PM

well well well Wrote:
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> if 'justthefacts' is another trainer in NOVA, he
> must be jumping for joy - he just picked up a ton
> of clients!


I am getting no joy out of any of this.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well well ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:06PM

but you are getting lots of clients!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:07PM

Why have you chosen to be the defendants advocate on this forum? If anything, I would think you would keep your fingers idle on internet media until this matter is resolved in court.

You would never be classified as an unbiased observer.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:08PM

well well well Wrote:
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> but you are getting lots of clients!

None of my current clients are Marlow's or have ever worked with him. There's no shortage of clients in the DC area.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:11PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Why have you chosen to be the defendants advocate
> on this forum? If anything, I would think you
> would keep your fingers idle on internet media
> until this matter is resolved in court.
>
> You would never be classified as an unbiased
> observer.


I wouldn't say I am his advocate. If you don't notice, this thread started with the incredibly stupid observation that male coaches shouldn't coach or train females. It morphed from there with people making false statements about Marlow or the case that I didn't mind talking about because, why not? I am not losing or gaining anything by doing it. I am merely an advocate for the process and I would like to know the truth before condemning a person. Chances are, if this thread came up and it wasn't Marlow, I'd still be commenting because the thread was nonsense.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:27PM

wow - this thread did morph into quite a mess. the only fact that I CAN agree with is that it was an incredibly stupid observation or statement that male coaches shouldn't coach or train females. that is about the only thing on this thread that I can wholeheartedly agree with.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:30PM

Some of your statements:

"What you believe isn't fact. If they add more charges, then they have strong evidence. If they find more girls, they have strong evidence. Right now, they are fishing because of the weakness of their evidence"

"Nobody knows exactly what they have. At this point, you can deduce they probably have no photos of the victim from his phone or computer because he was never charged with possession of child pornography, just solicitation. That probably means they either have text messages from him to her or they are just using her word."

"I wish people would stop saying his bond is proof of anything. He is not given bond because of the CHARGES only. And by the way, CHARGES doesn't mean he is guilty either."

"Great. He has been around my family a great deal. So I guess it's time for you to let it go?"

"I am not saying she's lying at all. I am also not saying Marlow is lying. Therein lies the difference. We don't have a complete picture of the actual evidence. Her word is indeed evidence, but is there ANYTHING to back it up? There were claims of a photo, where is this photo? Why hasn't he been charged with possession of said photo? All the charges against Marlow are based (so far) on her allegations"

If these statements don't come across as you being the defendants "internet advocate", then you need some serious mental health therapy.

Like many have said, I think you would be wise to just stop posting about this and in fact if I were you, I would go back and delete every post you made.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:40PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Some of your statements:
>
> "What you believe isn't fact. If they add more
> charges, then they have strong evidence. If they
> find more girls, they have strong evidence. Right
> now, they are fishing because of the weakness of
> their evidence"
>
> "Nobody knows exactly what they have. At this
> point, you can deduce they probably have no photos
> of the victim from his phone or computer because
> he was never charged with possession of child
> pornography, just solicitation. That probably
> means they either have text messages from him to
> her or they are just using her word."
>
> "I wish people would stop saying his bond is proof
> of anything. He is not given bond because of the
> CHARGES only. And by the way, CHARGES doesn't mean
> he is guilty either."
>
> "Great. He has been around my family a great deal.
> So I guess it's time for you to let it go?"
>
> "I am not saying she's lying at all. I am also not
> saying Marlow is lying. Therein lies the
> difference. We don't have a complete picture of
> the actual evidence. Her word is indeed evidence,
> but is there ANYTHING to back it up? There were
> claims of a photo, where is this photo? Why hasn't
> he been charged with possession of said photo? All
> the charges against Marlow are based (so far) on
> her allegations"
>
> If these statements don't come across as you being
> the defendants "internet advocate", then you need
> some serious mental health therapy.
>
> Like many have said, I think you would be wise to
> just stop posting about this and in fact if I were
> you, I would go back and delete every post you
> made.


I stand by everything I said. Sorry you don't like it. Maybe YOU should leave the thread?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:45PM

It's got nothing to do with me liking it or not.

You stated above..."I wouldnt say I am his advocate"

I just wanted to expose your lie!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 01:59PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> It's got nothing to do with me liking it or not.
>
> You stated above..."I wouldnt say I am his
> advocate"
>
> I just wanted to expose your lie!


Great. Now expose the lies of the people making racist or sexual comments? Comments about a photo that doesn't exist? Why are you selective in trying to admonish me and ignore everything else in this thread? You're comments about me mean nothing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 02:58PM

So the photo doesnt exist, the girl is lying, the cops and prosecutor are racist, it's all a vast conspiracy against Mr. Marlow because ____________

Please fill in the blank

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: claim ()
Date: October 21, 2013 03:42PM

>I am not going to get into details. I am a basketball trainer in Northern VA. I've known Marlow a long time. Worked with the girl in the past.

>None of my current clients are Marlow's or have ever worked with him. There's no shortage of clients in the DC area.

You claimed you trained the girl in the past, even though she was one of Marlow's clients? Did you really train her, too?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well well ()
Date: October 21, 2013 03:45PM

'justthefacts' should be reamed 'justmakingishup'

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: October 21, 2013 03:57PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Interesting... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Just curious, maybe your a good contact for the
> > detectives to talk to. Granted you might not
> know
> > much about the case, but you might know someone
> > (or several someones) that could answer some
> more
> > questions about the case.
> >
> > For example, did anything like this happen when
> > you coached with this particular alleged victim
> or
> > anything similiar? Maybe something with the
> > alleged victim with another coach?
>
>
> The fact of the matter is, and will always be, I
> never saw anything out of her that would lead me
> to believe she is a bad kid or would do something
> like this. I also have never seen anything out of
> Marlow or heard anything that would lead me to
> believe he is capable of this. That said, I've
> heard rumors about both. They are nothing more
> than rumor though. People who tend to dislike the
> girl, talk smack about her. People who dislike
> Marlow, talk smack about him. I've known Marlow
> way longer and know more about him so obviously
> the opinion I form of him is more relevant in my
> world.

Thank you. I'd like you to contact this number 703-777-0475 and ask to speak to Detective J.S. Cichocki. He is actively investigating the case, and needs some clarification on some things that were said by some others in the case that didn't seem to line up with some of the facts in the case. I think you might be able to clear up some "confusion" on some facts and you can remain anonymous.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 03:58PM

claim Wrote:
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> Did you
> really train her, too?

Hmmmmmmmm...tag team?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: claim ()
Date: October 21, 2013 05:12PM

>On THIS particular subject though, I PAINFULLY know more than you. I have spoken to Marlow's lawyer and her private investigator. I have been to both bond hearings and the preliminary hearing. I have spoken to Marlow. I have spoken with the girl's mother (I've known her for 5 years as well.) I have spoken with the police detective in charge.
>He hasn't had a trial yet. I say all this knowing the girl hasn't shown me anything (in the little I know of her) that would make me think she is making all this up out of thin air

I thought you didn't know the victim very long? In this past post you said you've known her and the mom for 5 years. The next post you say, you don't know her. Which one is it? Not long or long?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: do the math ()
Date: October 21, 2013 07:20PM

Re: i have a question

Posted by: Justthefacts ()

Date: August 08, 2013 03:27PM


hoops parent Wrote:
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> total nightmare all the way around - my son and
> his friends are all stunned - including some girls
> that were on his current team. Everyone is really
> in shock.

I've known him for 25 years. He has his faults, but no way does anyone I know think he did this. We all recognize he COULD be guilty. But there is just no way from our history with him do we think he is capable of this. It's one of the biggest shocks of my life for sure.


*********************************************************************

Sooooooooooooo, you have known him for 25 years............and who is the "we" don't believe he is capable of doing this.

You lose credibility when you lie.

Just dosclose your relationship to the perp.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 21, 2013 07:31PM

I think justthefacts has finally wised up and is keeping quiet, which would be the intelligent thing to do. Time will tell, I could be wrong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:15PM

claim Wrote:
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>
> I thought you didn't know the victim very long?
> In this past post you said you've known her and
> the mom for 5 years. The next post you say, you
> don't know her. Which one is it? Not long or
> long?


5 years isn't long compared to the 20+ I've known Marlow. And I only knew them in passing, from AAU tournaments, training, etc. It's not the same. First time I ran into them was around 4 or 5 years ago. No, I don't have exact dates. Could have been less than that. Apologies if I made it seem more than it really is. Wasn't my intention.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:17PM

do the math Wrote:

>
> Sooooooooooooo, you have known him for 25
> years............and who is the "we" don't believe
> he is capable of doing this.
>
> You lose credibility when you lie.
>
> Just dosclose your relationship to the perp.



What? What exactly are you asking? Where did I lie? I've disclosed my relationship several times. Why don't you disclose your relationship with the victim? The perp? Anyone relevant?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:18PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> I think justthefacts has finally wised up and is
> keeping quiet, which would be the intelligent
> thing to do. Time will tell, I could be wrong.



Why would I keep it quiet? What the hell do I have to hide?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:19PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> So the photo doesnt exist, the girl is lying, the
> cops and prosecutor are racist, it's all a vast
> conspiracy against Mr. Marlow because
> ____________
>
> Please fill in the blank


Now admonish yourself for making all that crap up.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:22PM

claim Wrote:
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>
> You claimed you trained the girl in the past, even
> though she was one of Marlow's clients? Did you
> really train her, too?


None of your business really. But since you care so much, Marlow was present when I worked with her and her team. You guys never give up do you? What's the point of questioning me with all this? Certainly has nothing to do with the thread.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:23PM

well well well Wrote:
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> 'justthefacts' should be reamed 'justmakingishup'


Yep. Made it all up. You've broken the case.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 21, 2013 10:24PM

Interesting... Wrote:

>
> Thank you. I'd like you to contact this number
> 703-777-0475 and ask to speak to Detective J.S.
> Cichocki. He is actively investigating the case,
> and needs some clarification on some things that
> were said by some others in the case that didn't
> seem to line up with some of the facts in the
> case. I think you might be able to clear up some
> "confusion" on some facts and you can remain
> anonymous.



He already has my number. Thanks for the concern though.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: October 22, 2013 07:08AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Interesting... Wrote:
>
> >
> > Thank you. I'd like you to contact this number
> > 703-777-0475 and ask to speak to Detective J.S.
> > Cichocki. He is actively investigating the
> case,
> > and needs some clarification on some things
> that
> > were said by some others in the case that
> didn't
> > seem to line up with some of the facts in the
> > case. I think you might be able to clear up
> some
> > "confusion" on some facts and you can remain
> > anonymous.
>
>
>
> He already has my number. Thanks for the concern
> though.

Okay good.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: October 22, 2013 09:40AM

I suppose you heard, being you are so "in the know", that YOUR main man was indicted on 5 charges by the Grand Jury yesterday. (I doubt you would let the rest of us in on that, being it wouldn't make you look so good.)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justsayin' ()
Date: October 22, 2013 09:49AM

>And I only knew them in passing, from AAU tournaments, training, etc. It's not the same
>Marlow was present when I worked with her and her team

So you worked with the victim, but yet you claim you only have seen her in passing. See you have lots of conflicting statements. Just sayin'

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: More info needed ()
Date: October 22, 2013 09:57AM

updates Wrote:
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> I suppose you heard, being you are so "in the
> know", that YOUR main man was indicted on 5
> charges by the Grand Jury yesterday. (I doubt you
> would let the rest of us in on that, being it
> wouldn't make you look so good.)

What were the charges?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 10:48AM

updates Wrote:
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> I suppose you heard, being you are so "in the
> know", that YOUR main man was indicted on 5
> charges by the Grand Jury yesterday. (I doubt you
> would let the rest of us in on that, being it
> wouldn't make you look so good.)


Been on the road since last Thursday. Haven't spoken to Marlow since then. So no, I hadn't heard anything yet. I will ask around though. Maybe you'd like to share what you know instead of criticizing me?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 10:50AM

justsayin' Wrote:
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>
> So you worked with the victim, but yet you claim
> you only have seen her in passing. See you have
> lots of conflicting statements. Just sayin'



You can nitpick the facts all you want. It's pointless to share anything in here because you guys will over analyze it to death. Believe whatever you want. I've been as forward and up front as I care to be at this point.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 11:22AM

updates Wrote:
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> I suppose you heard, being you are so "in the
> know", that YOUR main man was indicted on 5
> charges by the Grand Jury yesterday. (I doubt you
> would let the rest of us in on that, being it
> wouldn't make you look so good.)


So I can confirm that more charges were added. Don't know what they were yet nor do I know what caused these charges to be added. Guess I will hear at some point. Definitely dims the outlook for a positive outcome for Marlow.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 11:25AM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> updates Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I suppose you heard, being you are so "in the
> > know", that YOUR main man was indicted on 5
> > charges by the Grand Jury yesterday. (I doubt
> you
> > would let the rest of us in on that, being it
> > wouldn't make you look so good.)
>
>
> So I can confirm that more charges were added.
> Don't know what they were yet nor do I know what
> caused these charges to be added. Guess I will
> hear at some point. Definitely dims the outlook
> for a positive outcome for Marlow.



Actually, haven't confirmed more charges or what they are yet, just heard there were more. (Just making sure I am not blasted for saying something wrong in here)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: October 22, 2013 11:31AM

well, I appreciate any accurate info that can be shared. for what it's worth.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 11:47AM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> well, I appreciate any accurate info that can be
> shared. for what it's worth.


From two different sources I am told they are additional charges implying more incidents of the same nature. Nothing new really, just more of the same. Doesn't help his case though.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: October 22, 2013 12:13PM

with new alleged victims? oh my, this is just so horrible.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: October 22, 2013 12:31PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> with new alleged victims? oh my, this is just so
> horrible.


No, same victim, additional times alleging the same activities.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent ()
Date: October 22, 2013 12:36PM

thanks - I appreciate your sharing what info you have.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: PGevn ()
Date: October 22, 2013 12:44PM

I always thought that having sexual favors from consenting girls turning 18 was a benefit of being a coach? Are they adults? Can they agree to have a physical relationship with another adult? What happens if the girl assaults the male coach?

My female high school trainer groped the shit out of me (I am male) while getting my leg wrapped for a pulled hamstring. Should I sue the school?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 22, 2013 01:01PM

hoops parent Wrote:
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> thanks - I appreciate your sharing what info you
> have.


It isn't all that much and if you notice, people knew before I did.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 22, 2013 01:02PM

PGevn Wrote:
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> I always thought that having sexual favors from
> consenting girls turning 18 was a benefit of being
> a coach? Are they adults? Can they agree to have a
> physical relationship with another adult? What
> happens if the girl assaults the male coach?
>
> My female high school trainer groped the shit out
> of me (I am male) while getting my leg wrapped for
> a pulled hamstring. Should I sue the school?

The child in this instance was 12. And no, in a lot of school districts, teachers can not have such encounters with students, no matter what the age.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: H74bY ()
Date: October 22, 2013 01:20PM

So, did he have pics of an underage girl on his phone? Or was that just made up by the detective fairies?

Is there a reason that he is being prosecuted? Or is this all just speculation by the evidence fairies?

If found guilty, will it just be by the justice fairies?


When is the trial?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 22, 2013 01:25PM

H74bY Wrote:
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> So, did he have pics of an underage girl on his
> phone? Or was that just made up by the detective
> fairies?
>
> Is there a reason that he is being prosecuted? Or
> is this all just speculation by the evidence
> fairies?
>
> If found guilty, will it just be by the justice
> fairies?
>
>
> When is the trial?



There is no photo. (at least that the prosecution has revealed so far)
He has charges, therefore he is being prosecuted. If he his found guilty, he is guilty of the crimes. No trial date is set that I know of yet.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Hmmmmm.... ()
Date: October 22, 2013 03:01PM

Actually this thread has been more informative (and entertaining) than the news. Which by the way, no one (Not even the Patch) has provided any updates on this case in months.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 22, 2013 03:26PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> .
>
>
> From two different sources I am told they are
> additional charges implying more incidents of the
> same nature. Nothing new really, just more of the
> same. Doesn't help his case though.

"But he's such a great guy and this goes against everything I know about him"

That's exactly how pedophiles do what they do. They are wolves in sheeps clothing......baaaahhh baaaaahh

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 22, 2013 04:44PM

Stabitha Wrote:

>
> "But he's such a great guy and this goes against
> everything I know about him"
>
> That's exactly how pedophiles do what they do.
> They are wolves in sheeps clothing......baaaahhh
> baaaaahh



I am not sure why you're strutting around like you just won something. They expected more charges because the prosecution will throw as much at him as they can to get a plea deal. This isn't a shock nor does it mean a conviction. It just makes it look worse so people like you vote guilty without looking at actual evidence.

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Reston Basketball Coach Will Remain Jailed on Abuse Charges
Posted by: The Neighborhood Watch! ()
Date: October 23, 2013 07:18AM

Reston Basketball Coach Will Remain Jailed on Abuse Charges
Coach had inappropriate relationship with 12-year-old girl, authorities said.
http://reston.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/reston-basketball-coach-will-remain-jailed-on-abuse-charges

A Reston basketball coach accused of sexually assaulting an underage girl, was denied bond in a Loudoun County court on Tuesday, the Loudoun Times reported.

Marlow Mikassas Afshartous, 39, who also goes by the name Marlow Talley, was arrested Aug. 3 and charged with sexual assault and solicitation of child pornography after allegedly abusing a 12-year-old girl he coached and trained in basketball and requesting her to take a photograph of herself topless with his cellphone.

Afshartous, who played basketball at Virginia Commonwealth University, has coached teams and trained players around the area, including at Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling and Georgetown Day School.

Prosecutors said the alleged abuse took place from April to November 2012 at three separate locations: Claude Moore Recreation Center, a church off Evergreen Mills Road and at an outdoor court on Braddock Road in Fairfax County.

Afshartous's trial is scheduled for March. Read more at the Loudountimes.com.
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Basketball coach again denied bond
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: October 23, 2013 07:19AM

Basketball coach again denied bond
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/basketball_coach_again_denied_bond529

A Reston basketball coach accused of sexually assaulting an underage girl has once again been denied bond after an Oct. 8 bond appeal hearing.

After a one-hour hearing, Loudoun County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Horne denied bond for Marlow Mikassas Afshartous, 39, amid tears from his contingent of supporters in the courtroom.

Afshartous, who also goes by the name Marlow Talley, was arrested Aug. 3 and charged with sexual assault and solicitation of child pornography after allegedly abusing a 12-year-old girl he coached and trained in basketball and requesting her to take a photograph of herself topless with his cellphone.

A basketball coach in the Northern Virginia area, Afshartous coached an AAU team and trained players around the area, including at Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling, the now-defunct Hoop Magic in Chantilly and Georgetown Day School in Washington D.C. He played collegiate basketball at Virginia Commonwealth University and had a brief professional basketball stint in Finland. Married with two daughters, he now lives in Reston.

Keva McDonald, defense attorney for Afshartous, called three witnesses to testify on his behalf. All three had daughters that were coached by Afshartous prior to his arrest.

“My daughter has never had any concern whatsoever with Marlow,” testified Kevin Butler, whose 16-year-old daughter has been coached by Afshartous for six years.

Butler and the other two witnesses all stated that they have no concerns about Afshartous being in the community and supported his release.

Senior Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Gigi Lawless called just one witness, Det. Jeffrey Cichocki, who investigated the case.

Cichocki gave sordid details of the now 13-year-old victim's allegations.

According to Cichocki, the abuse took place from April to November 2012 at three separate locations: Claude Moore Recreation Center, a church off Evergreen Mills Road and at an outdoor court on Braddock Road, west of Gum Spring Road. The victim stated that on multiple occasions, Afshartous would kiss her, and in other instances digitally penetrated her and once forced her to perform oral sex on him. The abuse occurred in the equipment room and also in Afshartous's SUV. In addition, investigators retrieved approximately 7,000 text messages on the victim's phone between her and Afshartous.

Cichocki interviewed Afshartous at the Eastern Loudoun Station prior to his arrest. Afshartous initially said he did not recall the incidents and later denied them happening. Cichocki also testified that Afshartous's phone's memory was wiped clean prior to the interview.

“He was a coach and he violated that trust in the most horrific and vile way,” Lawless closed.

McDonald argued that no new victims have come forward and that many people have come to her client's defense.

Horne's denial of the bond appeal means Afshartous will likely remain incarcerated until his trial, which is tentatively scheduled for March.

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Charges to date
Posted by: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ()
Date: October 23, 2013 01:02PM

CaseNumber Defendant Charge Hear Date Status
CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-01 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT -MANUF. CHILD PORNOGRA 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-03 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-04 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active

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Re: Charges to date
Posted by: so what? ()
Date: October 23, 2013 01:05PM

what does posting the list of CHARGES prove? that he was charged with them? yeah, I get that. does that mean he is guilty? I don't get that.

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Re: Charges to date
Posted by: dates? ()
Date: October 23, 2013 04:50PM

What do the dates mean for January 31st? Is that his trial date?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wishing ()
Date: October 23, 2013 05:02PM

I really wish/hope all this wasn't true. So many peoples lives will never be the same. I feel for the victim and her family and I also feel for Marlow's family. I can't imagine what each parties are going through. This is so, so sad. All for what reason? I hope in time they can understand and either forgive or get to a place in their hearts where they can move on and live a fulfilled life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: YG9jm ()
Date: October 23, 2013 11:44PM

wishing Wrote:
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> I really wish/hope all this wasn't true. So many
> peoples lives will never be the same. I feel for
> the victim and her family and I also feel for
> Marlow's family. I can't imagine what each
> parties are going through. This is so, so sad.
> All for what reason? I hope in time they can
> understand and either forgive or get to a place in
> their hearts where they can move on and live a
> fulfilled life.

If guilty will you still feel for Marlow?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:07AM

yes, I will still feel for both Marlow and the victim, regardless of the trial outcome. It is the lack of empathy and humanity in society today that is contributing to the spiraling downward in how we treat each other. I also feel badly for a lot of the posters on this thread and others who clearly are lacking many things in their lives, joy and empathy and perspective being near the top of the list. You really can tell a lot about a person based on how they treat others.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Not a fan ()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:22AM

hoops parent2 Wrote:
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> yes, I will still feel for both Marlow and the
> victim, regardless of the trial outcome. It is
> the lack of empathy and humanity in society today
> that is contributing to the spiraling downward in
> how we treat each other. I also feel badly for a
> lot of the posters on this thread and others who
> clearly are lacking many things in their lives,
> joy and empathy and perspective being near the top
> of the list. You really can tell a lot about a
> person based on how they treat others.

It's called Common sense, we don't like child molesters. Call us old fashioned...

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:30AM

and neither do it. the presumptions that you make don't surprise me.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:31AM

hoops parent2 Wrote:
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> and neither do it. the presumptions that you make
> don't surprise me.

sorry - neither do I.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wishing ()
Date: October 24, 2013 08:32AM

I never stated feeling sorry for Marlow- I only stated feeling sorry for the victim and Marlow's FAMILY!!! Please re-read my statement.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 24, 2013 03:57PM

If innocent, would some of you feel sorry for Marlow then?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: rightnwrong ()
Date: October 24, 2013 04:21PM

While I know it is highly doubtful for Marlow to be proven innocent after all that I have read and heard, I can only feel sorry that Marlow risked his freedom and families well being. He is a grown man who should have known the system of right and wrong. He took that risk and unfortunately he will forever have to pay the consequences.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Not a fan ()
Date: October 25, 2013 07:08AM

hoops parent2 Wrote:
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> and neither do it. the presumptions that you make
> don't surprise me.

I also assume you have no mastery of the English language.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: break ()
Date: October 25, 2013 08:23AM

give them a break, they corrected their grammar in the next post


> and neither do it. the presumptions that you make
> don't surprise me.

sorry - "neither do I."

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Not a fan ()
Date: October 25, 2013 08:46AM

Cool. :)

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: true ()
Date: October 25, 2013 12:58PM

so very true. Praying for the victim especially.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: date ()
Date: October 26, 2013 04:49PM

Any updates on when the trial is going to be?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Dumbass ()
Date: October 27, 2013 11:23AM

What happen to Justhefacts? Facts posted and now nothing. Facts get your tongue?
Could not shut him/her up

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: boy ()
Date: October 27, 2013 04:08PM

at least he wasn't touching the little boys

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: stupidcomment ()
Date: October 28, 2013 11:14AM

so touching little girls is OKAY in your eyes?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 29, 2013 03:49PM

Dumbass Wrote:
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> What happen to Justhefacts? Facts posted and now
> nothing. Facts get your tongue?
> Could not shut him/her up


Is there something specific you want me to comment on? I look every day so I haven't gone anywhere. Trial is Jan 27th. He's in jail until then. He is still not proven guilty until he is found guilty in court. Anything else you want to discuss?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: October 29, 2013 03:52PM

Yeah are you still having meetings and discussions with his lawyer and investigators?

What's the defense going to be? Everyone is a liar but him?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2013 03:53PM by Stabitha.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Rockhound ()
Date: October 29, 2013 04:35PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Yeah are you still having meetings and discussions
> with his lawyer and investigators?
>
> What's the defense going to be? Everyone is a liar
> but him?


This self-righteous trap coming from the Fagitha who posts pictures of "underage neighbors I fucked"? Lol, save it you fat fuckstick.

By the by, what the fuck kinda name is Fagitha? You think you're clever, chubbs? It's okay, I'll wait.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trialdate ()
Date: October 29, 2013 05:15PM

I feel sorry for his kids. Why did he put himself in this position? No Halloween, No Thanksgiving, No Christmas, No New Years with his family. Why? Why? Why?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Dumbass ()
Date: October 29, 2013 08:44PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> Dumbass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What happen to Justhefacts? Facts posted and
> now
> > nothing. Facts get your tongue?
> > Could not shut him/her up
>
>
> Is there something specific you want me to comment
> on? I look every day so I haven't gone anywhere.
> Trial is Jan 27th. He's in jail until then. He
> is still not proven guilty until he is found
> guilty in court. Anything else you want to
> discuss?
#2?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: 7CNh9 ()
Date: October 29, 2013 11:22PM

Rockhound Wrote:
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> By the by, what the fuck kinda name is Fagitha?


you go by cockhound, you should relax on the gay name front

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: maturity ()
Date: October 31, 2013 11:30AM

The maturity level on some of these posts has to make you wonder what our next generation is up against?! The verbiage makes no sense and the grammar is appalling. This particular forum is a serious issue with many life changes at stake for both the victim and the perpetrator's family. For some reason some like to attack trivial, irrelevant topics on this news thread. Have some compassion. Just sayin'

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 31, 2013 06:10PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Yeah are you still having meetings and discussions
> with his lawyer and investigators?
>
> What's the defense going to be? Everyone is a liar
> but him?


No, I haven't spoken with anyone except Marlow in the past couple weeks. I am not sure what you mean by "everyone is a liar except him." He deny's what she is saying if that's what you're asking. Right now, all they have is her word against his. Now they have to provide actual evidence to back up her word. That's what the prosecution is going to try and do with the text messages. The defense would probably bring out the witnesses who were there when those events supposedly took place to counteract what the girl claims.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: October 31, 2013 06:11PM

Dumbass Wrote:
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> justthefacts2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dumbass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What happen to Justhefacts? Facts posted and
> > now
> > > nothing. Facts get your tongue?
> > > Could not shut him/her up
> >
> >
> > Is there something specific you want me to
> comment
> > on? I look every day so I haven't gone
> anywhere.
> > Trial is Jan 27th. He's in jail until then.
> He
> > is still not proven guilty until he is found
> > guilty in court. Anything else you want to
> > discuss?
> #2?



I can't login half the time with the other name so I just created this one.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hefty ()
Date: November 01, 2013 07:14AM

I'm thinking there is plenty of evidence to prove what the victim is saying to be true. 7,000 text is pretty hefty. Do you really believe that ALL these texts are basketball related? I wonder how many texts him and his wife had during this time. Why do I guess not even half that amount. Marlow put his time & energy in the wrong place. He should have been concentrating on his family and not on a 12 year old girl.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 01, 2013 12:50PM

hefty Wrote:
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> I'm thinking there is plenty of evidence to prove
> what the victim is saying to be true. 7,000 text
> is pretty hefty. Do you really believe that ALL
> these texts are basketball related? I wonder how
> many texts him and his wife had during this time.
> Why do I guess not even half that amount. Marlow
> put his time & energy in the wrong place. He
> should have been concentrating on his family and
> not on a 12 year old girl.



Are there really 7000 texts? Do any of them really show any evidence of the alleged assault? That's what a trial is for.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hefty ()
Date: November 01, 2013 01:29PM

Would the detective really give false information in court to the judge on the # found? I don't think he would. You are right, that is what the trial is for, but I can almost bet my life on it that there is substance to them.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 01, 2013 02:04PM

The bottom line is Prosecutors really don't like to move forward with cases that look like a loser from the start. Im betting they have the goods on this guy or they wouldn't have gone this far.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:10PM

hefty Wrote:
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> Would the detective really give false information
> in court to the judge on the # found? I don't
> think he would. You are right, that is what the
> trial is for, but I can almost bet my life on it
> that there is substance to them.



That's funny because they also boldly stated in open court that more victims were coming forward...How's that going for them? They can and will say everything they can to keep certain accused offenders behind bars before trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:10PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> The bottom line is Prosecutors really don't like
> to move forward with cases that look like a loser
> from the start. Im betting they have the goods on
> this guy or they wouldn't have gone this far.


Depends on the crime and how much pressure they are getting from above to prosecute said cases.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:14PM

This is what happens when people make snap judgements instead of letting the courts do their job.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of-paedophilia-burned-to-death.html

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: OH please! ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:29PM

He is so busted.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: asdfadsfasdfasdf ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:32PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> This is what happens when people make snap
> judgements instead of letting the courts do their
> job.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421
> 076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of
> -paedophilia-burned-to-death.html

That's the best example you could provide? This story of yours is from England!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 03, 2013 08:48PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> This is what happens when people make snap
> judgements instead of letting the courts do their
> job.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421
> 076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of
> -paedophilia-burned-to-death.html

This is why your buddy is locked up. For his own protection......hahahaha

That's the UK, doesnt count.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Pedo Coach ()
Date: November 04, 2013 01:57PM

Marlow Mikassas Afshartous, aka Marlow Talley's van...
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: victims ()
Date: November 06, 2013 02:50PM

Doesn't it really only take 1 victim? Isn't 1 too many?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: really the question is ()
Date: November 06, 2013 03:44PM

doesn't it only take one person making accusations to get someone arrested and held in jail for months and months?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: intheknow ()
Date: November 06, 2013 09:15PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> This is what happens when people make snap
> judgements instead of letting the courts do their
> job.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421
> 076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of
> -paedophilia-burned-to-death.html

I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said he was going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to the facts and his guilt.

Expressed that he could get the sentence reduced by 6+ years.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: facing ()
Date: November 07, 2013 08:48AM

How many years is he facing, if convicted? Why would he tell you anything before his trial? Or, would that be dropped if he pleads guilty?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: nogain ()
Date: November 07, 2013 08:53AM

Evidence is evidence. Face it, they would not hold him and deny bond over and over if they didn't feel there was enough evidence. Why would one make up this story. What would be the gain? Sad for both families.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: really? ()
Date: November 08, 2013 02:33PM

Wait, so Marlow has announced his GUILT???

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ?Curious? ()
Date: November 08, 2013 02:39PM

How do we know none of these girls wanted it, but then cried rape when it was found out?

Teen girls are supposed to be so "mature" and much more advanced at that age, and they are of mind enough to decide if they want an abortion, so why not sex?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: problem? ()
Date: November 08, 2013 07:56PM

um, she was 12...not sure your point here? He was, I believe 39. Don't you think that is a problem on his part? Mature or not, it isn't right and will never be looked at as okay. He was the adult and knew better. Last I knew 18 is a consenting age, not 12!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 17, 2013 02:34AM

intheknow Wrote:
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> justthefacts2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is what happens when people make snap
> > judgements instead of letting the courts do
> their
> > job.
> >
> >
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421
>
> >
> 076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of
>
> > -paedophilia-burned-to-death.html
>
> I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said he
> was going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to
> the facts and his guilt.
>
> Expressed that he could get the sentence reduced
> by 6+ years.



Did you now? I think I will wait to hear that directly from said accused.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 17, 2013 02:22PM

intheknow Wrote:
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> justthefacts2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is what happens when people make snap
> > judgements instead of letting the courts do
> their
> > job.
> >
> >
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10421
>
> >
> 076/Police-suspended-after-innocent-man-accused-of
>
> > -paedophilia-burned-to-death.html
>
> I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said he
> was going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to
> the facts and his guilt.
>
> Expressed that he could get the sentence reduced
> by 6+ years.



This is a lie. He isn't pleading to anything. He is waiting for his chance to defend himself in court and from what has been revealed, they think they have plenty of evidence to refute the charges.

What he did say though was that the prosecution came to him saying they would drop certain charges if he pleas to others. This is a well known tactic.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: gamble ()
Date: November 22, 2013 05:46PM

He is taking a HUGE gamble if he doesn't plea. He is looking at LIFE in prison vs. a shorter sentence on a PLEA. With the evidence they have, he should take the plea. But,then that would mean he would have to confess to doing these things, which I know he wont do even though the allegations are not in his favor.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: 100 days ()
Date: November 23, 2013 12:42PM

Wonder if he will plea? He has been behind bars for 100 days. What a waste of a life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: negro again ()
Date: November 23, 2013 02:09PM

Another nigger criminal....ho hum

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: 100 days ()
Date: November 23, 2013 06:36PM

Color of his skin has nothing to do with him behind bars. The crime he is being accused of doing is. White/Black it doesn't matter.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 23, 2013 07:08PM

100 days Wrote:
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> Color of his skin has nothing to do with him
> behind bars. The crime he is being accused of
> doing is. White/Black it doesn't matter.

I agree, black or white makes no difference in child sex abuse. However, you have to wonder if it had been a female coach abusing boys, would she be sitting in jail? I have my doubts.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: confirmed ()
Date: November 24, 2013 06:39AM

I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said he is going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to the facts and his guilt.

Total time should be reduced to 25 years for guilty plea.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Boomer ()
Date: November 24, 2013 12:46PM

confirmed Wrote:
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> I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said he
> is going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to
> the facts and his guilt.
>
> Total time should be reduced to 25 years for
> guilty plea.


They must have the goods on him because to accept a 25 year plea deal means he was going to be going away for much longer if he didnt accept this. But 25 years in the slammer as a sex offender wont be pretty. His life is over.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wondering? ()
Date: November 24, 2013 02:21PM

Does it matter if he has no prior criminal record before this? Sometimes you read things about these cases and they don't get much time, because it is their first offense with the law. Just wondering.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Thisiscray ()
Date: November 24, 2013 04:49PM

Any word on how the wife / family is taking it?

Also does anyone know when / where the next court date?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 24, 2013 08:32PM

Thisiscray Wrote:
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> Any word on how the wife / family is taking it?
>
> Also does anyone know when / where the next court
> date?

I would imagine his wife has already consulted with a lawyer and divorce proceedings will soon follow. She's just hoping now he doesnt drain the savings paying for his defense.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:52AM

Boomer Wrote:
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> confirmed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I spoke with the accused yesterday and he said
> he
> > is going to plea for a shorter sentence, due to
> > the facts and his guilt.
> >
> > Total time should be reduced to 25 years for
> > guilty plea.
>
>
> They must have the goods on him because to accept
> a 25 year plea deal means he was going to be going
> away for much longer if he didnt accept this. But
> 25 years in the slammer as a sex offender wont be
> pretty. His life is over.


Except the accused never said what that person claimed. There is no plea. They are going to court and are very confident in doing so.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 25, 2013 01:53AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Thisiscray Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Any word on how the wife / family is taking it?
> >
> > Also does anyone know when / where the next
> court
> > date?
>
> I would imagine his wife has already consulted
> with a lawyer and divorce proceedings will soon
> follow. She's just hoping now he doesnt drain the
> savings paying for his defense.



You imagine wrong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: plea? ()
Date: November 25, 2013 10:27AM

I am surprised Marlow wants to risk his sentence. I think once a jury hears from the victim it will clearly show how it all went down and it won't be in Marlow's favor.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 25, 2013 11:56AM

Im pretty sure justthefacts is either Marlow's wife or some other family member, so you really have to take what this person posts with a grain of salt.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: are you kidding me? ()
Date: November 25, 2013 12:02PM

why do y'all refuse to believe that justthefacts is NOT a family member? do you honestly believe that the ONLY person capable of believing Marlow vs. the accused is a family member? give me a break.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: --------------- ()
Date: November 25, 2013 12:21PM

So many dull people with out a life. If this guy had run over the kid drunk driving or hacked the kid up it would not of been an issue. Maybe you should all go to the trial since your all so interested.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: proof ()
Date: November 25, 2013 02:58PM

Even with all the proof that they have, sometimes it takes family/friends a lot longer to accept the truth. Although, JUSTTHEFACTS did say they will disassociate themselves if it does come out to be true about Marlow. (My guess it would be Easier for a friend to do than a family member).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: y'all are all so silly ()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:47PM

you keep saying 'all of the proof that they have' - yet NO ONE on this stupid site has seen any of the 'evidence'. the lack of knowledge here clearly doesn't prevent most of you from still running your mouths about things you know nothing about. for real.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Your Right ()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:49PM

y'all are all so silly Wrote:
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> you keep saying 'all of the proof that they have'
> - yet NO ONE on this stupid site has seen any of
> the 'evidence'. the lack of knowledge here
> clearly doesn't prevent most of you from still
> running your mouths about things you know nothing
> about. for real.

Yep, you're right. The police love to hold people for months at a time for no proof. Oh wait, that's right, they hundreds of text messages and dirty pics of that 12-year old.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: you are completely missing point ()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:51PM

first - have YOU seen any of this evidence?
second - if you honestly believe that the police only hold people when they have airtight evidence, you are way more naïve than I would ever want to be.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Your Right ()
Date: November 25, 2013 03:59PM

you are completely missing point Wrote:
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> first - have YOU seen any of this evidence?
> second - if you honestly believe that the police
> only hold people when they have airtight evidence,
> you are way more naïve than I would ever want to
> be.

I used to be in law enforcement, they usually do not hold people without cause. In this case, it is my belief that they are holding him due to valid reasons, based on the information and evidence today...And yes there is evidence (strong) to hold him.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: oh yeah well... ()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:07PM

and I used to be able to fly - and crap golden eggs. y'all are all so full of crap. seems like every other poster on here 'used to be in law enforcement'. give me a break.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Your Right ()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:08PM

oh yeah well... Wrote:
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> and I used to be able to fly - and crap golden
> eggs. y'all are all so full of crap. seems like
> every other poster on here 'used to be in law
> enforcement'. give me a break.

That's because you're stupid...

CaseNumber Defendant Charge Hear Date Status
CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-01 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT -MANUF. CHILD PORNOGRA 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-03 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-04 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: proof ()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:48PM

I believe wholeheartedly that there are people on this string that have seen the evidence or at least some of it. To the general public this story is long forgotten. Only those that are truly involved one way or another (either on the accused or accusers side) would continue to visit this forum that is now 4 months old.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: confirmed ()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:57PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> Boomer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > confirmed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I spoke with the accused yesterday and he
> said
> > he
> > > is going to plea for a shorter sentence, due
> to
> > > the facts and his guilt.
> > >
> > > Total time should be reduced to 25 years for
> > > guilty plea.
> >
> >
> > They must have the goods on him because to
> accept
> > a 25 year plea deal means he was going to be
> going
> > away for much longer if he didnt accept this.
> But
> > 25 years in the slammer as a sex offender wont
> be
> > pretty. His life is over.
>
>
> Except the accused never said what that person
> claimed. There is no plea. They are going to
> court and are very confident in doing so.


The above is why I know the poster is lying completely. Trying to act like they know what the accused "never said" is just silly.

Unless the above poster is in the room while I am, they do not know any of the details or facts at all.

I get their point about innocent until proven guilty, that is all well and fine.

The plea was offered and accepted, which will reduce time in jail to 25 years, also in consideration just recently is an additional

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: standingby ()
Date: November 25, 2013 04:57PM

I would imagine his wife would be standing by him all the way through to the trial. Does anyone want to ever think their husband could do such a thing? Especially, knowing he has 2 daughters that are not that much younger than the girl he is being accused of doing these things to. Who knows what he has told her. How does he explain the 7000 text messages issue to his wife? She had to be curious to something?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: papajohns ()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:05PM

when is the trial?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trialdate ()
Date: November 25, 2013 08:18PM

I believe the end of January.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 12:04AM

Your Right Wrote:
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> y'all are all so silly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you keep saying 'all of the proof that they
> have'
> > - yet NO ONE on this stupid site has seen any
> of
> > the 'evidence'. the lack of knowledge here
> > clearly doesn't prevent most of you from still
> > running your mouths about things you know
> nothing
> > about. for real.
>
> Yep, you're right. The police love to hold people
> for months at a time for no proof. Oh wait, that's
> right, they hundreds of text messages and dirty
> pics of that 12-year old.




Pics? There are? Where are the charges for these so called pics? You're an expert in nothing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 12:05AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Im pretty sure justthefacts is either Marlow's
> wife or some other family member, so you really
> have to take what this person posts with a grain
> of salt.


And everything you say is incorrect...including this nonsense.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 12:08AM

confirmed Wrote:
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> justthefacts2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Boomer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > confirmed Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I spoke with the accused yesterday and he
> > said
> > > he
> > > > is going to plea for a shorter sentence,
> due
> > to
> > > > the facts and his guilt.
> > > >
> > > > Total time should be reduced to 25 years
> for
> > > > guilty plea.
> > >
> > >
> > > They must have the goods on him because to
> > accept
> > > a 25 year plea deal means he was going to be
> > going
> > > away for much longer if he didnt accept this.
> > But
> > > 25 years in the slammer as a sex offender
> wont
> > be
> > > pretty. His life is over.
> >
> >
> > Except the accused never said what that person
> > claimed. There is no plea. They are going to
> > court and are very confident in doing so.
>
>
> The above is why I know the poster is lying
> completely. Trying to act like they know what the
> accused "never said" is just silly.
>
> Unless the above poster is in the room while I am,
> they do not know any of the details or facts at
> all.
>
> I get their point about innocent until proven
> guilty, that is all well and fine.
>
> The plea was offered and accepted, which will
> reduce time in jail to 25 years, also in
> consideration just recently is an additional




Ok, show us the proof then? I heard it directly from Marlow himself. So he is either lying to you or lying to me. What room exactly were you in to hear this?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: picture ()
Date: November 26, 2013 07:45AM

The picture charge is still "active" till the Trial.

CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT -MANUF. CHILD PORNOGRA 01/31/2014 Active

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 10:04AM

picture Wrote:
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> The picture charge is still "active" till the
> Trial.
>
> CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT
> -MANUF. CHILD PORNOGRA 01/31/2014 Active


Oh look...another person who doesn't know what that means.

Again, where are the photos? He was charged with ASKING the girl to take a photo. No photo was ever located. If there was a photo or photos? POSSESSION of child pornography would be the charge.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: proof ()
Date: November 26, 2013 11:50AM

Apparently,you are being so buffaloed by Marlow. To the point you are going to be so pissed at him for making you look like a jerk for believing him. In regards to the picture: Unfortunately, when you buy a new phone the day before you are to hand over your phone to authorities, it's kind of hard to retrieve a old photo. Coincidence? You be the judge. Just another strike of guilt against him, in my book. But believe me, there are other ways to prove this evidence.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ?????? ()
Date: November 26, 2013 12:25PM

Why would someone agree to a plea deal for 25 years in jail who was innocent?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 01:32PM

proof Wrote:
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> Apparently,you are being so buffaloed by Marlow.
> To the point you are going to be so pissed at him
> for making you look like a jerk for believing him.
> In regards to the picture: Unfortunately, when
> you buy a new phone the day before you are to hand
> over your phone to authorities, it's kind of hard
> to retrieve a old photo. Coincidence? You be the
> judge. Just another strike of guilt against him,
> in my book. But believe me, there are other ways
> to prove this evidence.



He didn't "buy a phone" and hand it to the police. Wrong again. Also, you still didn't explain where you spoke to him and what room this was in. You're full of crap so far.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ????? ()
Date: November 26, 2013 01:36PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> proof Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently,you are being so buffaloed by Marlow.
>
> > To the point you are going to be so pissed at
> him
> > for making you look like a jerk for believing
> him.
> > In regards to the picture: Unfortunately, when
> > you buy a new phone the day before you are to
> hand
> > over your phone to authorities, it's kind of
> hard
> > to retrieve a old photo. Coincidence? You be
> the
> > judge. Just another strike of guilt against
> him,
> > in my book. But believe me, there are other
> ways
> > to prove this evidence.
>
>
>
> He didn't "buy a phone" and hand it to the police.
> Wrong again. Also, you still didn't explain
> where you spoke to him and what room this was in.
> You're full of crap so far.

Just an FYI, any photos sent from the phone, could and would be easily found on the server, that were associated with the phone's account.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 02:16PM

????? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> justthefacts2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > proof Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Apparently,you are being so buffaloed by
> Marlow.
> >
> > > To the point you are going to be so pissed at
> > him
> > > for making you look like a jerk for believing
> > him.
> > > In regards to the picture: Unfortunately,
> when
> > > you buy a new phone the day before you are to
> > hand
> > > over your phone to authorities, it's kind of
> > hard
> > > to retrieve a old photo. Coincidence? You be
> > the
> > > judge. Just another strike of guilt against
> > him,
> > > in my book. But believe me, there are other
> > ways
> > > to prove this evidence.
> >
> >
> >
> > He didn't "buy a phone" and hand it to the
> police.
> > Wrong again. Also, you still didn't explain
> > where you spoke to him and what room this was
> in.
> > You're full of crap so far.
>
> Just an FYI, any photos sent from the phone, could
> and would be easily found on the server, that were
> associated with the phone's account.



Correct. The claim by the prosecution though is that he asked her to take a photo with his phone. He didn't send it anywhere (if it existed). They don't have a photo or else he'd be charged with more than solicitation.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: November 26, 2013 02:19PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ????? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > justthefacts2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > proof Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Apparently,you are being so buffaloed by
> > Marlow.
> > >
> > > > To the point you are going to be so pissed
> at
> > > him
> > > > for making you look like a jerk for
> believing
> > > him.
> > > > In regards to the picture: Unfortunately,
> > when
> > > > you buy a new phone the day before you are
> to
> > > hand
> > > > over your phone to authorities, it's kind
> of
> > > hard
> > > > to retrieve a old photo. Coincidence? You
> be
> > > the
> > > > judge. Just another strike of guilt
> against
> > > him,
> > > > in my book. But believe me, there are other
> > > ways
> > > > to prove this evidence.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He didn't "buy a phone" and hand it to the
> > police.
> > > Wrong again. Also, you still didn't explain
> > > where you spoke to him and what room this was
> > in.
> > > You're full of crap so far.
> >
> > Just an FYI, any photos sent from the phone,
> could
> > and would be easily found on the server, that
> were
> > associated with the phone's account.
>
>
>
> Correct. The claim by the prosecution though is
> that he asked her to take a photo with his phone.
> He didn't send it anywhere (if it existed). They
> don't have a photo or else he'd be charged with
> more than solicitation.

I'm confused by these charges and the lack of others that I would have thought would have appeared. Something doesn't quite add up. Can someone please explain it?

CaseNumber Defendant Charge Hear Date Status
CR00025476-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025477-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025478-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA BOND APPEAL 10/08/2013 Other
CR00025578-00 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-01 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-02 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SOLICIT -MANUF. CHILD PORNOGRA 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-03 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION 01/31/2014 Active
CR00025578-04 AFSHARTOUS, MARLOW MOKASSA SODOMY 01/31/2014 Active

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 26, 2013 02:41PM

Maybe you could be less cryptic. What charges do you believe should be included?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: proof ()
Date: November 26, 2013 05:38PM

Think what you want but, again, you are being mislead. He claimed he "lost" his phone and had to get a new one. (Funny, cause he had his phone in his hand 24/7).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Date: November 26, 2013 05:43PM

maturity Wrote:
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> The maturity level on some of these posts has to
> make you wonder what our next generation is up
> against?! The verbiage makes no sense and the
> grammar is appalling. This particular forum is a
> serious issue with many life changes at stake for
> both the victim and the perpetrator's family. For
> some reason some like to attack trivial,
> irrelevant topics on this news thread. Have some
> compassion. Just sayin'

Maturity on an anonymous message board. Oh, to be so cute and optimistic! New to the internets?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 26, 2013 11:15PM

proof Wrote:
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> Think what you want but, again, you are being
> mislead. He claimed he "lost" his phone and had to
> get a new one. (Funny, cause he had his phone in
> his hand 24/7).




I am not "thinking what I want". You are just making shit up. That is the bottom line. You apparently missed the part I heard in court with my own ears where the prosecution claimed he had WIPED his phone. No mention of a new phone or any nonsense like that. The more you type your "facts" you are exposing yourself as full of it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: November 27, 2013 07:29AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Maybe you could be less cryptic. What charges do
> you believe should be included?

Possession of Child Porn. Where is that charge? I see the manufacturing of it charge, but where's the possession of it? Seem's fishy.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: regardless ()
Date: November 27, 2013 12:54PM

regardless of new phone, old phone, lost phone: being he "wiped his phone" don't you think that is a guilty move?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: November 27, 2013 02:14PM

regardless Wrote:
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> regardless of new phone, old phone, lost phone:
> being he "wiped his phone" don't you think that is
> a guilty move?

Well of course it is. Anyone with a brain would see that. However, I think justthefacts is of the same ilk as the OJ jurors. All the evidence in the world points to guilty and because one of the cops said "nigger" 20 years ago, they let him go.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Question36665484 ()
Date: November 27, 2013 02:41PM

Everyone is talking about "evidence" and him being guilty... what evidence is there? What is he saying happened and what did other people that testified say?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ????? ()
Date: November 27, 2013 02:43PM

Question36665484 Wrote:
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> Everyone is talking about "evidence" and him being
> guilty... what evidence is there? What is he
> saying happened and what did other people that
> testified say?

Go back and read the thread.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 27, 2013 03:41PM

regardless Wrote:
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> regardless of new phone, old phone, lost phone:
> being he "wiped his phone" don't you think that is
> a guilty move?


Guilty of what? It's illegal to have a phone with nothing on it? Also, what exactly does "wiped" mean? What exactly was missing from his phone that they couldn't find? They would only say that in the first place if they found nothing on his phone to incriminate himself. So to make it look "suspicious" they made the claim he "wiped" it. It's not evidence of anything and is only circumstantial evidence at best. There are many other possible reasons for his phone being "wiped" if indeed it was.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 27, 2013 03:42PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> regardless Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > regardless of new phone, old phone, lost phone:
> > being he "wiped his phone" don't you think that
> is
> > a guilty move?
>
> Well of course it is. Anyone with a brain would
> see that. However, I think justthefacts is of the
> same ilk as the OJ jurors. All the evidence in the
> world points to guilty and because one of the cops
> said "nigger" 20 years ago, they let him go.


And you're an idiot. My stance from the beginning has been "give the man his trial before claiming his guilt." You get arrested one day for something and I bet you'll want a trial first.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: November 27, 2013 03:43PM

Question36665484 Wrote:
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> Everyone is talking about "evidence" and him being
> guilty... what evidence is there? What is he
> saying happened and what did other people that
> testified say?


The fact of the matter is that no trial has taken place yet. There were bond hearings where the prosecution can claim whatever they want to keep him locked up and there is no way he can defend himself. They aren't allowed to present evidence at bond hearings. The trial is where the official evidence will come out and the trial is where the defense will refute said evidence.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sdffsdfsd ()
Date: November 27, 2013 10:51PM

so when and where is the trial?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Marlow Talley ()
Date: November 28, 2013 10:59AM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> Question36665484 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Everyone is talking about "evidence" and him
> being
> > guilty... what evidence is there? What is he
> > saying happened and what did other people that
> > testified say?
>
>
> The fact of the matter is that no trial has taken
> place yet. There were bond hearings where the
> prosecution can claim whatever they want to keep
> him locked up and there is no way he can defend
> himself. They aren't allowed to present evidence
> at bond hearings. The trial is where the official
> evidence will come out and the trial is where the
> defense will refute said evidence.

Please stop trying to protect me, I'm guilty as sin. I have a weakness for 12 year olds that seduced me with fried chicken and watermelon.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: November 29, 2013 11:30AM


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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The Truth Comes Out... ()
Date: November 30, 2013 06:32PM

Defense motion denied in coach sexual assault case
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/defense_motion_denied_in_coach_sexual_assault_case898

A judge has denied a defense motion in the case of an area basketball coach accused of sexually assaulting an underage girl.

Judge Burke McCahill denied the motion set forth by defense attorney Keva McDonald on behalf of her client, Marlow Mikassas Afshartous.

Afshartous, 39, of Reston, was arrested Aug. 3 on counts of sodomy, object sexual penetration and solicitation to manufacture child pornography.

McDonald sought permission for the defense to bring in expert witnesses and investigators without needing specific permission from the court to the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center, where Afshartous is being held without bond.

“We've been told it requires a court order,” McDonald said. “The problem is that I would have to list every person in to see him, which gives away the defense strategy.”

McDonald argued that the process and the lack of privacy toward strategy violated Afshartous's right to due process.

But McCahill noted that the visitor's log at the jail is public record.

“Even if I grant this motion, can't the commonwealth just call up and request the log?” McCahill asked.

McDonald acknowledged that to be true, but said it then put the onus on the prosecution to get the logbook.

But Senior Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Gigi Lawless said this case does not merit an ex parte decision – a decision privy to only one party.

“They're just trying to hide potential people from the commonwealth,” Lawless said.

Ultimately, McCahill denied the motion.

Afshartous is accused of sexually assaulted a girl that played on one of his AAU travel basketball teams from April to November 2012. The victim, now 13, alleges that he would kiss her, digitally penetrate her and once forced her to perform oral sex on him. The abuse took place at equipment rooms and in Afshartous's SUV at various basketball courts in Sterling, Leesburg and Dulles. He also tried to get her to take a picture of herself topless with his cellphone.

Afshartous will next appear in court on Dec. 9, when both the prosecution and defense will file motions.

He is tentatively scheduled for a five-day jury trial beginning Jan. 27.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: whatwitness ()
Date: November 30, 2013 08:34PM

what do you think they were trying to do here? Who were they protecting? Was there a witness that is very vial to the case that they don't want revealed? Can someone explain? Thanks!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:36PM

I guess the liar who was claiming they agreed to a plea deal can stop talking now.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: denied ()
Date: December 01, 2013 03:29PM

Why would they want a witness to be disclosed to everyone? Wouldn't they eventually have to take the stand?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The Truth Comes Out... ()
Date: December 02, 2013 07:41AM

denied Wrote:
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> Why would they want a witness to be disclosed to
> everyone? Wouldn't they eventually have to take
> the stand?

Probably because the witness is a minor?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates? ()
Date: December 10, 2013 08:33AM

Any updates to this case? I believe his court date was yesterday, Dec. 9th, for something. I wonder if he had all of his entourage with him?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Cherry Trapp ()
Date: December 10, 2013 08:36AM

He coached me for 3 years, and even though I'm a 10, he never made a pass at me. Not sure if my stinky farts kept him at bay.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: newspaper ()
Date: December 10, 2013 11:03AM

I am sure there will be an update in the newspaper. It seems they are always there front and center on this case.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: anyinfo ()
Date: December 12, 2013 11:21AM

Just the Facts is there any updates? How did Monday go for him or did it get cancelled due to the snow?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: qwerwqerqwrewqer ()
Date: December 12, 2013 01:26PM

anyinfo Wrote:
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> Just the Facts is there any updates? How did
> Monday go for him or did it get cancelled due to
> the snow?

I believe it was rescheduled due to the snow.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: December 12, 2013 02:05PM

Spoke with him a few days ago and the plea deal was rejected last minute and he will now be on trial.

The reason cited by the attorney I spoke with was that there was additional evidence proving him guilty and that the deal was off the table - something about the retrieved images off of the phone.

Most of the rest you will be able to read in the papers, but I will be at court each day.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: December 12, 2013 02:47PM

wow - well, hopefully the truth all comes out in the trial and this can be put to rest and everyone can move on. So sad.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: plea? ()
Date: December 12, 2013 04:43PM

Wait, so he was wanting to plea and they wouldn't let him? I thought you said he wasn't going to plea, ever. What are your thoughts now to this? Do you now believe he is GUILTY? I hope an apology goes out to the victim and her family. Especially from the ones that thought this was all fabricated and that she was lying to get attention. Marlow should have pleaded from the beginning. From what I am told he could be facing Life in prison vs. a shorter sentence. So Sad! THE TRUTH ALWAYS COMES OUT!!!!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Nicole Brown ()
Date: December 12, 2013 04:49PM

Cherry Trapp Wrote:
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> He coached me for 3 years, and even though I'm a
> 10, he never made a pass at me. Not sure if my
> stinky farts kept him at bay.


Oh my goodness. Cherry!! Girl, you did have some rank toots. Remember when you farted so loud it sounded like a gun went off?? Too funny

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 12, 2013 09:43PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Spoke with him a few days ago and the plea deal
> was rejected last minute and he will now be on
> trial.
>
> The reason cited by the attorney I spoke with was
> that there was additional evidence proving him
> guilty and that the deal was off the table -
> something about the retrieved images off of the
> phone.
>
> Most of the rest you will be able to read in the
> papers, but I will be at court each day.



This is a complete fabrication. You just said you spoke with him, then you claim you spoke to some random attorney? You're a liar. Just like you lied about the plea deal before, you are trying to cover up your lies with more lies.

I stopped using that username a while back so you're not fooling anyone.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 12, 2013 09:44PM

plea? Wrote:
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> Wait, so he was wanting to plea and they wouldn't
> let him? I thought you said he wasn't going to
> plea, ever. What are your thoughts now to this?
> Do you now believe he is GUILTY? I hope an
> apology goes out to the victim and her family.
> Especially from the ones that thought this was all
> fabricated and that she was lying to get
> attention. Marlow should have pleaded from the
> beginning. From what I am told he could be facing
> Life in prison vs. a shorter sentence. So Sad!
> THE TRUTH ALWAYS COMES OUT!!!!




Don't believe that other "Justthefacts". I had to create a new username and somehow the old one is still being used.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: December 13, 2013 02:49AM

Just came in from a meeting with the family, which turned into an 8 hour process. Getting home at 2:30am on a regular basis has been awful.

There are 4 others who are going to come forward, which changed the offer of a plea deal. Since, this all happened it was decided to go to court and consider an insanity plea. This would include an admission of sexual addiction and the hopes of institutionalization verse jail time.


I do not know this "justthefacts2" or why they cloned my name in the first place, but I would suggest ignoring him/her.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Think? ()
Date: December 13, 2013 07:52AM

WOW! This is all turning out to be so strange. So what you are saying there are 4 other victims of Marlow? Sexual Addiction? Does this really fall under the category of being "INSANE". How long does his lawyer believe he could be institutionalized for vs. jail time? Do you think the jury will buy any of this? Let's not forget the victim was 12!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: December 13, 2013 08:07AM

what the heck???!!! ok, I understand that FFU is not the best place for accurate info (although sometimes it really is) but what is the deal with the two 'justthefacts' and who is correct?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The truth! ()
Date: December 13, 2013 11:04AM

hoops parent2 Wrote:
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> what the heck???!!! ok, I understand that FFU is
> not the best place for accurate info (although
> sometimes it really is) but what is the deal with
> the two 'justthefacts' and who is correct?

He's guilty as sin and is still sitting in jail.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hmmmm ()
Date: December 14, 2013 02:43PM

are you sure?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 14, 2013 06:38PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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> Just came in from a meeting with the family, which
> turned into an 8 hour process. Getting home at
> 2:30am on a regular basis has been awful.
>
> There are 4 others who are going to come forward,
> which changed the offer of a plea deal. Since,
> this all happened it was decided to go to court
> and consider an insanity plea. This would include
> an admission of sexual addiction and the hopes of
> institutionalization verse jail time.
>
>
> I do not know this "justthefacts2" or why they
> cloned my name in the first place, but I would
> suggest ignoring him/her.



More lies. Keep them coming. You're doing a bang up job.

Too bad you have no clue how insanity pleas work. If you can't even keep the easy details of your lies straight, how are you going to fool anyone?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The truth! ()
Date: December 14, 2013 08:32PM

hmmmm Wrote:
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> are you sure?

Reasonably sure. The authorities would never risk holding someone like this for son long on a few allegations. They have proof to back up these charges.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: L4XuN ()
Date: December 14, 2013 09:48PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just came in from a meeting with the family,
> which
> > turned into an 8 hour process. Getting home at
> > 2:30am on a regular basis has been awful.
> >
> > There are 4 others who are going to come
> forward,
> > which changed the offer of a plea deal. Since,
> > this all happened it was decided to go to court
> > and consider an insanity plea. This would
> include
> > an admission of sexual addiction and the hopes
> of
> > institutionalization verse jail time.
> >
> >
> > I do not know this "justthefacts2" or why they
> > cloned my name in the first place, but I would
> > suggest ignoring him/her.
>
>
>
> More lies. Keep them coming. You're doing a bang
> up job.
>
> Too bad you have no clue how insanity pleas work.
> If you can't even keep the easy details of your
> lies straight, how are you going to fool anyone?


Uh, looks like everyone is already "fooled" since no one is paying your bullshit any attention.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: L4XuN ()
Date: December 14, 2013 09:48PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> Justthefacts Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just came in from a meeting with the family,
> which
> > turned into an 8 hour process. Getting home at
> > 2:30am on a regular basis has been awful.
> >
> > There are 4 others who are going to come
> forward,
> > which changed the offer of a plea deal. Since,
> > this all happened it was decided to go to court
> > and consider an insanity plea. This would
> include
> > an admission of sexual addiction and the hopes
> of
> > institutionalization verse jail time.
> >
> >
> > I do not know this "justthefacts2" or why they
> > cloned my name in the first place, but I would
> > suggest ignoring him/her.
>
>
>
> More lies. Keep them coming. You're doing a bang
> up job.
>
> Too bad you have no clue how insanity pleas work.
> If you can't even keep the easy details of your
> lies straight, how are you going to fool anyone?


Uh, looks like everyone is already "fooled" since no one is paying your bullshit any attention.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 15, 2013 12:37AM

L4XuN Wrote:

>
>
> Uh, looks like everyone is already "fooled" since
> no one is paying your bullshit any attention.



What are you even talking about?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hm ()
Date: December 15, 2013 09:53AM

so what is the truth then justthefacts2? Are there any others to come forward and is he taking a plea?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 15, 2013 02:15PM

hm Wrote:
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> so what is the truth then justthefacts2? Are there
> any others to come forward and is he taking a
> plea?




No. There is no plea. There are no "others." If there were "others" you would see more charges. If there were photos, you would see more charges. There are no "8 hour meetings" where others could attend. Use some common sense people.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Elf on the Shelf ()
Date: December 15, 2013 06:12PM

Time to ban men from coaching Wrote:
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> Va. basketball coach facing child porn, sex
> assault charges
> Wednesday - 8/7/2013, 11:53am
>
> WASHINGTON - A trainer and basketball coach in
> Virginia has been arrested and charged with sexual
> assault and solicitation of child pornography.
>
> The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says
> 39-year-old Marlow Mikassa Afshartous of Reston
> has provided basketball instruction at Claude
> Moore Recreation Center in Sterling and the
> now-closed Hoop Magic in Chantilly.
>
> Afshartous also is known as Marlow Talley.
> Authorities say he additionally participated with
> the Fairfax Stars and at Georgetown Day School.
>
> Investigators with the sheriff's office in June
> began looking into allegations that Afshartous had
> a sexual relationship with a female athlete under
> the age of 13. He was arrested last weekend with
> the help of Fairfax County police and is being
> held without bond.
>
> Authorities say they are continuing the
> investigation to see if there may be additional
> alleged victims. Anyone with information is asked
> to call 703-777-0475.

So you like to play with little girls Marlow? Well we'd like to play with you...

We're watching you and you're on the naughty list...

You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
You're on the naughty list...
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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Justthefacts ()
Date: December 15, 2013 08:33PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> hm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so what is the truth then justthefacts2? Are
> there
> > any others to come forward and is he taking a
> > plea?
>
>
>
>
> No. There is no plea. There are no "others." If
> there were "others" you would see more charges.
> If there were photos, you would see more charges.
> There are no "8 hour meetings" where others could
> attend. Use some common sense people.


You can pretend to know what is happening, but all you are accomplishing is not allowing for the truth to be known.

The plea was pulled off the table before the trial because the photos and additional accusers surfaced. The new accusations are yet to be introduced until needed, as it is there are many procedures to be taken care of since the new information was brought to light so late in the proceedings.

We all wish you would just go sit in the corner while the adults are talking.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: December 15, 2013 10:33PM

Justthefacts Wrote:
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>
>
> You can pretend to know what is happening, but all
> you are accomplishing is not allowing for the
> truth to be known.
>
> The plea was pulled off the table before the trial
> because the photos and additional accusers
> surfaced. The new accusations are yet to be
> introduced until needed, as it is there are many
> procedures to be taken care of since the new
> information was brought to light so late in the
> proceedings.
>
> We all wish you would just go sit in the corner
> while the adults are talking.


Dear idiot, the prosecution just can't sit on the threat of prosecution for additional crimes. If there are additional crimes, they have to press charges since they are crimes of this nature and not petty property crimes. Saving them for a rainy day "when needed?" Ignorant statement and it once again shows your lack of knowledge not only of this case, but of the law in general.

I guess this is why you're pretending to be someone else? Please. There is no plea. There are no other accusers and there aren't any photos. I am not preventing anything from being known. You are obfuscating the truth with your own little games.


But please, continue with your little charade. It's my only reason for returning here.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: dsfjdfksd ()
Date: December 16, 2013 12:45AM

while this could be true, keep in mind there was another teacher not too long ago that was accused of inappropriate behavior with an 11 year old girl. Turns out the girl made it up. I had that teacher personally and didn't believe it for a second...turns out she made up the lie because she was mad at the teacher. I don't know any more facts than what the news said but if the other girls on the team think it is unlikely it very well could have another side to the story

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: The truth! ()
Date: December 16, 2013 05:14AM

dsfjdfksd Wrote:
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> while this could be true, keep in mind there was
> another teacher not too long ago that was accused
> of inappropriate behavior with an 11 year old
> girl. Turns out the girl made it up. I had that
> teacher personally and didn't believe it for a
> second...turns out she made up the lie because she
> was mad at the teacher. I don't know any more
> facts than what the news said but if the other
> girls on the team think it is unlikely it very
> well could have another side to the story

This is different, the police found evidence. This just isn't a case of "He said, she said". Otherwise they wouldn't have held him this long.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: closet ()
Date: December 16, 2013 08:44AM

Once the truth comes out, you all will be shocked to know how much evidence they have. I know people just can't imagine Marlow doing/saying all these things, but everyone has skeletons in their closet. His closet has now been opened! It's so, so sad for both families.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hindsight ()
Date: December 16, 2013 08:59AM

it's interesting to me how many people I have spoken with that worked with Marlow at Hoop Magic or trained with him or had other interactions with him are now saying how they always felt like something was 'off' with him. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, but as parents we need to pay more attention to our guy/intuition sometimes. If something seems 'off' with someone that is dealing with kids/your kids, pay attention. don't just dismiss the feeling.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: victims ()
Date: December 16, 2013 03:06PM

So you are saying there are NO other victims came forward? But, honestly, I don't think that matters. ONE is TOO MANY and ONE is ALL it takes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: FFU Observer ()
Date: December 16, 2013 04:21PM

In the Hoops Magic thread, Marlow is mentioned and spoken highly of...

Hoop Magic shutting down?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/529358/1152118.html#msg-1152118

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: doublelife ()
Date: December 16, 2013 07:02PM

I highly doubt Marlow would be stupid enough to let others see into his double life. You can "look" and "act" one way in front of others, but that doesn't mean you can't be doing other things while no one is watching. That's where the saying
“The true test of a man’s character is what he does when no one is watching.” falls into play. For all we know, this very well could be a first time situation for him of this magnitude. But, that doesn't matter. IT IS WRONG! He was well aware of the consequences. Maybe he thought it would never surface. The truth always comes out. Sad to think he would put his family through this and put his victims family through this. All for what reason? I guess we will never truly know.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: thefriend ()
Date: December 24, 2013 10:10PM

the girl who was assaulted was my best friend. i can assure you, what many people are saying on here is false. i am not allowed to tell the full story until the court makes it's decision, but i can say that what happened happened. my best friend confessed herself, it was not a parent's suspicion. the parents of the girl are GOOD PEOPLE. marlow had found ways to get the girl alone, (asking to bring the equipment to his truck, telling her to train early, etc) and it is definitely not the parent or the child's fault. marlow brought this upon himself. the girls of the team are against him because they are friends with the girl who was assaulted ,and she feels bad that she put someone she cares about in jail. he made her think that they would run away and get married, her tricked her and that is going to be there for the rest of her life. none of you know the story, only SHE knows the full story. and that is something you are going to have to accept. you are all just suburban assholes that need something to gossip about. please, it would all be better if this would just go away. it does not matter whether or not you think he was a nice person or he was innocent or guilty or anything like that. the court will make it's decision and that is the end. if you have questions i will try to answer. i know many of you won't believe that i am her best friend, but it's true. it is so hard to see someone so close go through this, and to watch someone i trained with and trusted turn into someone completely different. i hope you will all realize how dumb it is to create an online forum to talk about someone you have no business with. it was THEIR life, and not yours. unless you have direct contact with THIS CASE, you should stay out of it.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: secretsource ()
Date: December 24, 2013 10:12PM

marlow had kept many lives a secret from us all. he has been married and divorced more times than he shares publicly, thus further showing that he is capable of keeping big secrets.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF SECRECY

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sorry ()
Date: December 26, 2013 11:28AM

Sorry your friend is going through this mess. I hope that she is able to heal, move on and live a life where this situation doesn't consume her. They say most predators are people that you know and are kind without any warning signs. Sounds like Marlow fit that mold. Shame to think he took advantage of a 12 year old when he had a wife and kids at home that he risked. You say he wanted to run away with her, did he really think that would happen? Think about what A 12 year old and a 40 year old would look like together!? Just not fathomable. Tell your friend to keep strong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: weiiirrddd ()
Date: December 26, 2013 06:26PM

so does the wife believe that this happened or is she taking Marlow's side? Was the wife ever suspicious of him?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: bFejL ()
Date: December 27, 2013 10:35AM

weiiirrddd Wrote:
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> so does the wife believe that this happened or is
> she taking Marlow's side? Was the wife ever
> suspicious of him?


The wife has had multiple affairs outside their marriage and is probably just waiting until she can sell all his shit and run off with her new man, after he goes to jail

She will be testifying for the prosecution.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wife ()
Date: December 27, 2013 11:45AM

She will be testifying for the prosecution? Doesn't that show you right then and there how she feels about all this? Why didn't he just plead guilty and give the victim and her family and his own family a peace of mind? Now they all have to be part of a lengthy trial that tax payers will have to fund.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: updates ()
Date: January 02, 2014 09:10PM

Has there been any new information to this case? Is the trial going to go on as scheduled? Anyone talk or hear from Marlow lately? Things seem to be a little quiet, I guess due to the holiday's.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: January 03, 2014 07:33AM

updates Wrote:
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> Has there been any new information to this case?
> Is the trial going to go on as scheduled? Anyone
> talk or hear from Marlow lately? Things seem to
> be a little quiet, I guess due to the holiday's.

Trial date is coming up.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trial ()
Date: January 04, 2014 04:15PM

when and where is the trial?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 04, 2014 04:20PM

He is tentatively scheduled for a five-day jury trial beginning Jan. 27.

Im sure this will be changed and delayed numerous times while his lawyers try to work out a deal which keeps him out of jail for 20+ years.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: facing? ()
Date: January 05, 2014 04:59PM

Is that what Marlow is facing? 20 years or more?! WOW!!!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: 9VpMK ()
Date: January 06, 2014 01:09PM

bFejL Wrote:
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> weiiirrddd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so does the wife believe that this happened or
> is
> > she taking Marlow's side? Was the wife ever
> > suspicious of him?
>
>
> The wife has had multiple affairs outside their
> marriage and is probably just waiting until she
> can sell all his shit and run off with her new
> man, after he goes to jail
>
> She will be testifying for the prosecution.


Yes, we have talked and she is really ready to move on with her new man. Even though she was cheating on her husband, she now feels it was acceptable with what he was doing with these girls.

The only reason she is even in town is to testify - after that she is headed out of country.

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Posted by: doubtful ()
Date: January 06, 2014 02:50PM

For some reason, I highly doubt what you are saying. I doubt the wife would move out of the Country- her and Marlow have 2 kids together and I don't think she would remove them from this area. You say "THESE GIRLS"- I thought there was only 1 victim that they know of? Do you know something more?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Downwithopp ()
Date: January 06, 2014 04:25PM

I don't think Katie will be leaving the country.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: false ()
Date: January 06, 2014 08:08PM

Not sure what story you are following, but Katie is NOT Marlow's wife's name. See how there are so many rumors that float around this forum. Be careful what you believe, but the truth is Marlow is guilty of his charges.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: whereisjustthefacts? ()
Date: January 08, 2014 04:42PM

JUST THE FACTS- any updates that you can share? I know you once said if the allegations turn out to be true, you would remove yourself out of Marlow's life. Is this why we haven't heard from you? If not, what is the latest? For some reason, I feel what you say may be the closest to the truth on this forum.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: whereisjustthefacts? ()
Date: January 08, 2014 04:42PM

JUST THE FACTS- any updates that you can share? I know you once said if the allegations turn out to be true, you would remove yourself out of Marlow's life. Is this why we haven't heard from you? If not, what is the latest? For some reason, I feel what you say may be the closest to the truth on this forum.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: January 08, 2014 08:09PM

There is no need for me to keep sharing really. Idiots want to come on here and just make stuff up.

The facts are: Marlow is still in jail awaiting trial. The trial isn't until June. There is no plea deal. There are no photos. There is no admission. There are no additional victims.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 08, 2014 08:12PM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> There is no need for me to keep sharing really.
> Idiots want to come on here and just make stuff
> up.
>
> The facts are: Marlow is still in jail awaiting
> trial. The trial isn't until June. There is no
> plea deal. There are no photos. There is no
> admission. There are no additional victims.

Why hasnt he bonded out?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: January? ()
Date: January 08, 2014 10:22PM

Wait, don't you mean January is the trial? I thought it was in 3 weeks. June is 6 months away. what happened there? That would almost bring Marlow to being in jail for a year. He has to be going crazy in there. Are you positive he doesn't want to plea? I think it would be very wise or he could face life if convicted.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: January 09, 2014 02:37PM

Stabitha Wrote:

>
> Why hasnt he bonded out?



He has tried. Due to the crimes he is charged with and the case presented to the judge, he isn't going to be granted bond.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2014 02:37PM by justthefacts2.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: January 09, 2014 02:38PM

January? Wrote:
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> Wait, don't you mean January is the trial? I
> thought it was in 3 weeks. June is 6 months away.
> what happened there? That would almost bring
> Marlow to being in jail for a year. He has to be
> going crazy in there. Are you positive he doesn't
> want to plea? I think it would be very wise or he
> could face life if convicted.



Why would he plea to something he didn't do, regardless of the consequences? I certainly wouldn't. And yes, he'll be locked up almost a year without a trial.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: do you know for sure ()
Date: January 09, 2014 02:42PM

why the trial was postponed from January to now June?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How Could it Be? ()
Date: January 09, 2014 04:47PM

How is it that he can't be bonded out yet the husband of the former Falls Church Mayor was charged with molesting three different girls between the ages of 9 and 10 and he was out on bond while awaiting trial?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How Could it Be? ()
Date: January 09, 2014 04:50PM

^
Certainly Marlow's crime is not more severe than the crime committed by the husband of the former Falls Church Mayor?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 09, 2014 05:05PM

How Could it Be? Wrote:
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> How is it that he can't be bonded out yet the
> husband of the former Falls Church Mayor was
> charged with molesting three different girls
> between the ages of 9 and 10 and he was out on
> bond while awaiting trial?


Good question. More to this story. There have been accused murderers who have made bail in FX County.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: gambling ()
Date: January 09, 2014 05:17PM

He is gambling Big Time. I hope his lawyer knows what she is doing, only for his sake. But, from what I hear, the evidence is pretty powerful.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: January 10, 2014 10:42AM

This isn't Fairfax County. It's Loudoun country. He is not a wealthy person and like it or not, he's black.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: January 10, 2014 10:50AM

How Could it Be? Wrote:
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> How is it that he can't be bonded out yet the
> husband of the former Falls Church Mayor was
> charged with molesting three different girls
> between the ages of 9 and 10 and he was out on
> bond while awaiting trial?

Good question.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 10, 2014 11:00AM

justthefacts2 Wrote:
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> This isn't Fairfax County. It's Loudoun country.
> He is not a wealthy person and like it or not,
> he's black.

So your implying, no...make that asserting, that he is being held in jail because he's black?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: funding ()
Date: January 10, 2014 11:13AM

Is it true that there has been a Marlow Talley fundraiser, where you can donate to his case? What will the people think who support him and he is found guilty? I doubt they will get their $$ back.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How Could it Be? ()
Date: January 10, 2014 03:01PM

@Stabitha:

I was not suggesting a reason for the disparate treatment; I was inquiring if anyone had an idea, though.

I actually have NO idea why there is disparate treatment between the case of Marlow and the case of the husband of the former Falls Church Mayor. I recall that there was another case a year or so ago of a promiment businessman who was the son of a former elected official in Hanover County who was released on bond after a VERY serious charge of sexual abuse of a minor. Indeed, he was indicted on multiple felony charges of taking indecent liberties with a minor. He was released on $10,000 bond. I believe his name was Todd Randolph Attkisson, 52, who was president and CEO of Ashland Roller Mills, and whose father was former Ashland Mayor Linwood P. Attkisson.

The reason I asked is because it has been suggested by some on this thread that Marlow is held without bond because of the seriousness of the charge. However, the Attkisson dude and the husband of the former Mayor were charged with MUCH more serious offenses against minors, and they were released.

The disparate treatment could be for a multitude of reasons having nothing to do with race. It also COULD be a racial tinge in the motivation.

I don't know the answer.

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Posted by: don't kid yourselves ()
Date: January 10, 2014 03:23PM

I know the answer - and likely you do as well. I also knew Marlow AND the family of the Ashland incident. It's pretty clear to me why Marlow is sitting in jail and Todd is not.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How Could it Be? ()
Date: January 10, 2014 03:36PM

@funding

I am not a supporter of Marlow. I don't know him and have never met him. I have no idea whether he is guilty or not guilty of the charges. If he is guilty, he (and anyone who commits such offenses) should be punished with great severity.

I was merely interested in why he is being treated so differently from others while awaiting trial (when there is supposed to be a presumption of innocence by the criminal justice system).

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: dig a little deeper ()
Date: January 10, 2014 03:37PM

find out who the sitting judge is on the case that keeps denying bond. you can figure it out.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: think ()
Date: January 11, 2014 12:28PM

I think it has been different judges at each hearing so far, not just one has denied bond.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: realize ()
Date: January 13, 2014 05:45PM

So, you still believe Marlow "didn't" do it? That just makes me believe that you really don't know the whole story or wont accept the truth. I feel bad for you, to think that you have a honest friend in Marlow who is continually lying to your face. I guess in time you will realize.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How Could it Be? ()
Date: January 13, 2014 06:22PM

@realize

I have NO idea whether or not Marlow perpetrated the heinous acts that he is charged with. It goes without saying that, if so, he should be severely punished.

I don't know him. I have never met or seen him. And so he certainly is not a friend of mine.

As for your assertion that you don't believe that I "know the whole story," you cerainly are correct. However, I suspect that you don't know the whole story, either. Indeed, I suspect that only two people know the whole story: Marlow and the complaining witness.

I DO take seriously the admonition that a person accused of a crime is to be considered innocent in the eyes of the law until and unless he or she is found guilty. And as difficult as it is to accept, there ARE instances of children making up false charges of sexual abuse against innocent adults. Remember the McMartin Pre-School case in San Diego several decades ago and the case of the gym teacher in Centreville from just a couple of years ago. In the case of the gym teacher, he was falsely accused of abusing a young girl who, as it turns out, made up the story out of whole cloth because she was mad at him. She even conspired with a friend of hers, who corroborated the false story.

In the McMartin Pre-School case, after years of criminal proceedings, the accused were exonerated. In the case of the Centreville gym teacher, he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

And so we should all wait for the evidence to be presented in court before making final judgements on whether or not Marlow is guilty. Remember. Tomorrow, it could be YOU who is FALSELY accused of commmitting a heinous sex crime against a minor. Certainly, if the charge is false, you would want the community to withhold judgement until the evidence is presented in a court of law.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: realize ()
Date: January 13, 2014 07:29PM

Yes, I do believe in innocent until proven guilty, but when you have hard facts, it's hard to allow yourself to believe anything else but guilty. I am sure there are individuals out there that have cried wolf, but in this case there is nothing to gain for the accused. Marlow is not some rich semi-pro athlete with tons of $$. Do you really think someone would want to carry this with them for the rest of their life, if they didn't have to? The victim was 12 years old at the time. She has a lot of healing and understanding to go through. I guess we will all see come June.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 13, 2014 08:13PM

I believe the only time an accused in a case such as this is not given bond is because he has been deemed, rightly or wrongly, a threat to the community. Someone apparently thinks he's dangerous.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: January 14, 2014 09:54AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> I believe the only time an accused in a case such
> as this is not given bond is because he has been
> deemed, rightly or wrongly, a threat to the
> community. Someone apparently thinks he's
> dangerous.

Yep that's right.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: other possibility ()
Date: January 14, 2014 11:37AM

the more likely scenario that has kept Marlow behind bars all of this time is that the judge(s) believe he is a flight risk if he posts bond. given his connections in other countries, I could see how this could be an issue.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: um ()
Date: January 15, 2014 08:14AM

Um, Katie is just a Baby Mama of Marlow's, not his wife.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well WELL ()
Date: January 16, 2014 07:42AM

not sure when it happened yesterday/last night, but from what I can gather from teenaged girls spilling the beans on Twitter..... someone is changing their story.....

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: seriously? ()
Date: January 16, 2014 10:31AM

did she recant? if she did, will he be released? charged dropped?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: implying ()
Date: January 16, 2014 10:33AM

What are you implying?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: never ()
Date: January 16, 2014 10:35AM

Don't believe what you are reading or hear. This case is still in full force.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: well well WELL ()
Date: January 16, 2014 10:44AM

from what I am seeing on Twitter, former teammates of the accuser would like to confront accuser about false statements or something. who knows who to believe.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: implying ()
Date: January 16, 2014 11:00AM

Of course the teammates would think there are false statements. They don't want to believe the story. The evidence proves otherwise and that's all that matters. There are believers and nonbelievers, that's just how the human race operates.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 16, 2014 11:00AM

Yes, Twitter is always the truth, so help me God

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: bullying ()
Date: January 18, 2014 06:57PM

If you are seeing it on twitter, that means you must be pretty close to the players or the victim to know their twitter names. Right? I doubt the victim would be saying anything on twitter to jeopardize the case. But, I could see how team mates could be having a field day with this. Isn't that bullying? They better be careful if they are.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: January 20, 2014 05:04AM

well well WELL Wrote:
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> from what I am seeing on Twitter, former teammates
> of the accuser would like to confront accuser
> about false statements or something. who knows
> who to believe.

Typical.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: meaning ()
Date: January 20, 2014 06:45PM

what do you mean by that?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: happening ()
Date: January 23, 2014 03:56PM

Any new news on this? So June is the new month for trial? What happened to January? Wonder why they pushed it a full 6 months. Hmmmm.....

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stop it ()
Date: January 25, 2014 07:26PM

I just heard the girl changed her story and charges have indeed been dropped

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Never would have guessed ()
Date: January 25, 2014 07:29PM

Just heard as we'll he's innocent

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: January 25, 2014 07:40PM

Been on MySpace again have you?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: E6bKL ()
Date: January 26, 2014 01:06AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> He is tentatively scheduled for a five-day jury
> trial beginning Jan. 27.
>
> Im sure this will be changed and delayed numerous
> times while his lawyers try to work out a deal
> which keeps him out of jail for 20+ years.


You were wrong as usual.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: When?? ()
Date: January 26, 2014 02:24PM

Does anyone know when in June his court date is? Also what's been the latest

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hi ()
Date: January 26, 2014 02:48PM

What is the name of the team that Marlow coached when all of this happened

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Marks tillo ()
Date: January 26, 2014 07:55PM

I don't think marlow was ever the same after hoop magic closed down.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: farfromthetruth ()
Date: January 27, 2014 11:53AM

That is the farthest from the truth. The victim hasn't changed her story and the evidence clearly confirms that Marlow in fact did do all that he is being accused of doing. Not sure what sources you are using, but I would stop listening to them.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: noclue ()
Date: January 27, 2014 11:56AM

Not innocent by any means! Whoever is feeding you this info has no clue what they are talking about. June will reveal it ALL!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: As I Sees It ()
Date: January 27, 2014 05:17PM

He's a nigger, she's a little white girl. Of course he's guilty. Back in the day he'd be hanging from the tree in front of the court house, eyes all bugged out and neck at an impossible angle. Then we'd all have a BBQ to celebrate!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: What? ()
Date: January 27, 2014 05:22PM

I don't know what source your listening to because that little girl is a liar just looking for attention. Your right we will see in June.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Lynch Mob ()
Date: January 27, 2014 06:28PM

What? Wrote:
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> I don't know what source your listening to because
> that little girl is a liar just looking for
> attention. Your right we will see in June.

She's 12 (or was), he's 39. She's white, he's black. Seems pretty clear cut.

Such behavior is common in the black community. When it's black-on-black, it's no big deal and accepted as normal. He made the mistake of going after a white girl. Had he stuck to his own kind, there's be no problem.

String him up!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How do you know?? ()
Date: January 27, 2014 06:53PM

If you know she's white then You must be close to her. Perhaps a relative?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: consider ()
Date: January 27, 2014 09:06PM

Consider your source. He is beyond guilty! "Gaining attention" from a situation like this would be the farthest thing any victim would want. Race is not a factor and very irrelevant.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: exactly ()
Date: January 27, 2014 09:08PM

only one thing was true in your sentence: "little girl" Shame on Marlow.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: January 27, 2014 09:13PM

Really?. You honestly believe it is Accepted if it was a black 12 year old girl? And common? You should be ashamed for thinking that way. It will never be accepted for a grown man of 40 to try and have a relationship with a 12 year old. Not sure what planet you live on?!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Yep, Sho' Nuf' ()
Date: January 27, 2014 09:22PM

Really? Wrote:
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> Really?. You honestly believe it is Accepted if
> it was a black 12 year old girl? And common? You
> should be ashamed for thinking that way. It will
> never be accepted for a grown man of 40 to try and
> have a relationship with a 12 year old. Not sure
> what planet you live on?!

Yes, really. A significant number of black girls are pregnant at age 12, 13, 14 and have 3-4 kids before they're out of their teens, usually by more than one baby-daddy. It's common, it's accepted, and overwhelmingly not condemned in their culture, and the age of their partners is of little if any concern. Blacks have different standards than whites in this world. That's reality on this planet. What's it like on your planet?

You can take the nigger out of the jungle, but you can never take the jungle out of the nigger.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: notokay ()
Date: January 28, 2014 07:50AM

While those statistics may be true elsewhere, I highly doubt that is the case in Loudoun and Fairfax where Marlow is from and coached. So, you are saying Marlow would have "accepted", because it is "his" culture if a 40 year old man was going after one of his own daughters? I highly doubt it. It's not okay and never will be.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: How do you know? ()
Date: January 28, 2014 09:30AM

My point to all of this is nobody knows the true facts. Sure it's easy to blame him for the headlines. I've just seen it before where little girls just try to get all the attention. Like a couple years ago with a local soccer coach who everybody thought was guilty but ended up being the girl lieing

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Real World ()
Date: January 28, 2014 05:30PM

notokay Wrote:
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> While those statistics may be true elsewhere, I
> highly doubt that is the case in Loudoun and
> Fairfax where Marlow is from and coached. So, you
> are saying Marlow would have "accepted", because
> it is "his" culture if a 40 year old man was going
> after one of his own daughters? I highly doubt
> it. It's not okay and never will be.

It's in his nature as a black man. As for his daughters, get real! Black men do not stick around and raise the children they create. And black culture is different than civilized white culture, and that's true across the world, no matter where the location - Fairfax, Loudon, South Central LA, or The White House.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: curious george ()
Date: January 28, 2014 07:04PM

what was being said on twitter?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Tweet Me ()
Date: January 29, 2014 08:44AM

curious george Wrote:
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> what was being said on twitter?

That's he's sorry, not that he did it, but that he got caught. He doesn't understand the fuss coz it happened in his family when was little and nobody made a big deal of stuff like that.

Also, word is that he has a tiny wiener.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: grow up ()
Date: January 30, 2014 01:53PM

You need to grow up. Saying this kind of stuff helps nothing. Do you really think anyone believes you?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Tweet Young Thang ()
Date: January 30, 2014 05:52PM

grow up Wrote:
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> You need to grow up. Saying this kind of stuff
> helps nothing. Do you really think anyone
> believes you?

More than believe you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: fact ()
Date: February 06, 2014 08:51AM

It's about knowing the full truth and not accusations. Marlow is guilty and that is a fact.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: newstuff ()
Date: February 14, 2014 01:43PM

Anything new happening with this case? I assume Marlow is still in prison?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: February 14, 2014 01:56PM

newstuff Wrote:
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> Anything new happening with this case? I assume
> Marlow is still in prison?


Im sure if this happened, his personal FU cheerleader justthefacts would let us know in a nano second.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: it's funny ()
Date: February 14, 2014 02:25PM

but as I sat watching some old NBA dunk contests last night leading up to this weekend's All Star Weekend, I thought about Marlow and the fact that he is still sitting in a cell. and I commented to my family that it really is hard to believe how long he has been in jail if there really isn't much evidence. he's been locked up for quite a while now.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: because ()
Date: February 15, 2014 05:26PM

That's because the evidence is more substantial than what the general public would be aware of. They wouldn't deny and keep him there if there wasn't credible evidence. It is sad that it came to this, but the law is the law. He has been in prison for 6 months. No winners here for either parties.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: unless ()
Date: February 15, 2014 05:29PM

unless justthefacts became aware of the truth. I do recall him/her saying they wouldn't stand by Marlow anymore or at least associate with him should the guiltiness reveal itself

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: N3tMV ()
Date: February 15, 2014 08:49PM

because Wrote:
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> That's because the evidence is more substantial
> than what the general public would be aware of.
> They wouldn't deny and keep him there if there
> wasn't credible evidence. It is sad that it came
> to this, but the law is the law. He has been in
> prison for 6 months. No winners here for either
> parties.

Yep, going on 7 months.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: future ()
Date: February 22, 2014 05:23PM

WOW! Crazy how long it has been. Wonder what the future holds?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Shocked ()
Date: March 07, 2014 09:58PM

BREAKING NEWS: Marlow Mikassa Afshartous has been sent to prison for life for his assault of 2 minor girls in fairfax county area.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Jack45 ()
Date: March 07, 2014 10:08PM

Shocked Wrote:
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> BREAKING NEWS: Marlow Mikassa Afshartous has been
> sent to prison for life for his assault of 2 minor
> girls in fairfax county area.



Bull shit. This never happened.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Article? ()
Date: March 08, 2014 04:42PM

If this is true, why aren't there any news articles about it? Sounds like you are just stirring the pot.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Anythingatall ()
Date: March 13, 2014 10:15PM

For real tho any recent news on him?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: not sure ()
Date: March 14, 2014 06:09PM

I haven't heard anything but as time goes on, I am sure many people wont find interest in it as new news takes over. My guess is he is still behind bars until his June trial. Just the Facts may know something, unless they aren't talking to him now either. Regardless, it is a sad, sad case.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: plea ()
Date: March 27, 2014 05:37PM

It would be so much in Marlow's best interest to Plea. He is facing such stiff sentencing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: UPDATES? ()
Date: April 24, 2014 05:24PM

Any latest updates?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Updates? ()
Date: April 29, 2014 09:09AM

?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: this week ()
Date: May 26, 2014 03:09PM

A lot of things should be unfolding this week. I presume a guilty plea is the route that will be taken.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggmacc ()
Date: May 29, 2014 04:01PM

Any new news on this? Marlo still in jail?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent 2 ()
Date: May 29, 2014 04:17PM

i was wondering recently about this case as well. Now I can't remember when the trial date was in June. No one seems to have any updates on this story.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: howrserider ()
Date: May 29, 2014 04:19PM

I'm seeing a lot of 'the parents should have done better!" and "lots of men are like that, they should have known."

Stop making excuses for the assaulter. This is disgusting. This is WHY things like this continue to happen - we blame everyone EXCEPT for the abuser. What's next, are one of you assholes going to ask what the 13 year old was wearing? Going to ask if she consented? Well, dipshits, part of being a minor is that you cannot consent. Teens and children are easily convinced, manipulated, and taken advantage of through no fault of their own. It is not her parents' fault either. Stop trying to take the blame off of the criminal. Stop making excuses for men. HE is the only one to blame for this. Victim blaming needs to stop now.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: exactly ()
Date: June 02, 2014 12:55PM

exactly!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: tom p ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:49PM

If the girl was killed by a drunk driver none of you would have anything to say about it. 10.000 repeat drunk drivers caught last year, where's your out rage ?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: confused ()
Date: June 02, 2014 08:48PM

Not sure what you are stating here? Two extremely different topics.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 02, 2014 09:51PM

tom p Wrote:
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> If the girl was killed by a drunk driver none of
> you would have anything to say about it. 10.000
> repeat drunk drivers caught last year, where's
> your out rage ?

WTF? That the most worthless analogy Ive ever heard. Go back to Mexico fucker.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Jen's pathetic other half ()
Date: June 03, 2014 08:49AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> tom p Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If the girl was killed by a drunk driver none
> of
> > you would have anything to say about it. 10.000
> > repeat drunk drivers caught last year, where's
> > your out rage ?
>
> WTF? That the most worthless analogy Ive ever
> heard. Go back to Mexico fucker.

You're the expert,Stabitha. Couldn't stay away,huh?
Pretty weak character and no discipline.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sally B. ()
Date: June 03, 2014 09:19AM

Posted by: tom p ()
Date: June 02, 2014 03:49PM


If the girl was killed by a drunk driver none of you would have anything to say about it. 10.000 repeat drunk drivers caught last year, where's your out rage.
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I agree with you tom. These people seem to over look their own crimes and focus on the other people. Yes Stabitha the guy must be from mexico,you should run for Congress, they can't seem to get it right either.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: outcome ()
Date: June 03, 2014 11:18AM

Some will be shocked, others knew the outcome from the beginning.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trial date ()
Date: June 03, 2014 12:24PM

does anyone actually know the real trial date?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: trial ()
Date: June 03, 2014 07:30PM

there probably wont be one...

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: miss piggy ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:38AM

The defence is ending in a plea tomorrow morning. The mandatory life sentence is off the table. Sentencing should take place in about three months.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: doubters ()
Date: June 05, 2014 09:01AM

I hope all that felt Marlow could not do these things are bowing their heads in shame. The truth ALWAYS comes out. His followers have been deceived and my only wish is that the victim can move on and make this horrible situation a stepping stone to greater things for herself. Do not become of victim of your past.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: NNxVk ()
Date: June 05, 2014 09:06AM

miss piggy Wrote:
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> The defence is ending in a plea tomorrow morning.
> The mandatory life sentence is off the table.
> Sentencing should take place in about three
> months.

What's the plea? Is there a deal?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: June 05, 2014 09:29AM

before i 'bow my head' over anything, i would really like to know the FACTS of what is actually going on vs. people just making up facts.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: bow ()
Date: June 05, 2014 11:08AM

What makes you think "people" are just making up facts? It's clear as day, time to bow your head.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: June 05, 2014 11:36AM

how about a case or docket #?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: June 05, 2014 03:47PM

yeah...... that's what i thought.....

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: guilty ()
Date: June 05, 2014 04:50PM


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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: justthefacts2 ()
Date: June 05, 2014 05:46PM

Nobody should have to "bow their heads" for allowing the case to play out in court. Everyone is afforded the right to a defense when ACCUSED of a crime.

The facts are documented in that above press release. He is entering a plea and will be sentenced in September. Supposedly because of the plea they are lobbying for a lighter sentence but in the end, it's up to the judge. My guess is he'll get around 20 years, maybe 10 in actual prison and 10 under supervision. He was facing life.

This is a sad day, nothing to be celebrated. He's ruined his life, the life of the victim and the lives of his friends and family. His crimes are inexcusable and he'll get the punishment he has coming to him.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2014 05:51PM by justthefacts2.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: guilty ()
Date: June 05, 2014 06:04PM

To think that there were "Defense Funds" where his follower and believers gave money to help him, to think that he lied to his parents, his wife, his friends, his past players, his lawyers, and himself. To have others think that the "victim" was fabricating and making this all up just saddens me to no end.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 05, 2014 06:22PM

No Contest is such a pussy way to fly. Obvious he's not man enough to face up to this.

10 years 20 years 50 years......it doesnt matter. A child molester in jail is in for a rough time.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Money for Jen? ()
Date: June 05, 2014 07:25PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> No Contest is such a pussy way to fly. Obvious
> he's not man enough to face up to this.
>
> 10 years 20 years 50 years......it doesnt matter.
> A child molester in jail is in for a rough time.


You're the expert. We have pictures!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: stand by your word ()
Date: June 05, 2014 08:19PM

I commend you JUST THE FACTS for standing by your word. I know you have said in the past that you would stand by Marlow till the truth comes out and whatever way it unfolded would determine if you would remain friends or not with him. From how I am reading your last post you have chosen to take the higher road and know that what he has done wont be accepted by you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: June 06, 2014 07:23AM

thank you JUST THE FACTS for posting the link.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: guilty ()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:15AM

JUST THE FACTS didn't. But, you are welcome.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ditto ()
Date: June 06, 2014 08:18AM

Crazy what people do. Hopefully one day Marlow will begin to believe his own truth. Sounds like he is in complete denial and may need a mental evaluation, too. Hope the victim, her family and everyone else that has been affected by this can go on to live positive lives.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: From the announcement ()
Date: June 06, 2014 06:52PM

guilty Wrote:
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> http://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/103621

Basketball Coach Pleads No Contest to
Sex Offenses with Former Youth Player
JUDGE TO IMPOSE SENTENCE IN SEPTEMBER

LEESBURG, Virginia – June 5, 2014. Marlow Mokassa Afshartous (a/k/a Marlow Talley), 40, entered pleas of “no contest” to one count of sodomy and one count of object sexual penetration in Loudoun County Circuit Court. When a defendant enters a plea of no contest, they do not admit guilt, but are not challenging or contesting the prosecution’s evidence. Pleas of no contest result in a finding of guilt by the Court.

Afshartous formerly coached a number of basketball teams in the District of Columbia and across Northern Virginia, including a team at the Claude Moore Recreation Center in Sterling. The charges stem from a sexual relationship that Afshartous had with one of his twelve year old Sterling players in 2012. The relationship came to light when the victim disclosed the relationship and numerous text messages between her and Afshartous to her mother and a close family friend.

Afshartous is currently being held without bond in the Loudoun County Adult Detention Center where he awaits his final sentencing hearing on September 10, 2014 at 9:00 a.m. in Loudoun County Circuit Court. Afshartous faces the possibility of life in prison.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: time ()
Date: June 10, 2014 09:27AM

Very sad for all. I am guessing with a plea he will face a much lesser sentence. I am thinking 5-10 years. Especially if he doesn't have a crime history and good behavior. Enough time to really think hard about what he has done.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: commend ()
Date: June 12, 2014 09:19PM

You have to commend how brave the victim was to be able to bring this to light. So many victims carry their "secret" with them for life and it destroys them. This is a heavy burden to carry even just for a day, let alone a lifetime. From what I hear, this coach was pretty respected in the community of basketball, so for her to be able to come forward is pretty impressive at her age. I don't think we give enough credit to the victim and what it took. Kudos to her. I hope she is able to live a positive and healthy life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: true ()
Date: June 15, 2014 11:52PM

well said.

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Todd Attkisson
Posted by: Not Todd Attkisson ()
Date: June 25, 2014 07:52PM

He has four kids. So what. He ruined their life by having them and their existence doesn't save him, it makes his crime all that more disgusting. To think that he would simply disregard the thought of an old man molesting his own children. You would have to in order to plead guilty. What a pathetic blunder in the world of justice.

http://wtvr.com/tag/todd-attkisson/

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Doug ()
Date: July 09, 2014 08:07AM

Who is the girl

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: irrelevant ()
Date: July 11, 2014 11:53AM

She was a 12 year old player of his. The name is irrelevant. I'm sure if anyone does know her, they wouldn't stoop so low as to blast her name on a social media forum. Poor girl.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: yourirrelevant ()
Date: July 12, 2014 10:50PM

Gee, I didn't know it was a 12 year old. Thanks for the information that is clearly on every news article about Marlow…… -_- what team was she on

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: CtDXK ()
Date: July 13, 2014 02:30AM

time Wrote:
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> Very sad for all. I am guessing with a plea he
> will face a much lesser sentence. I am thinking
> 5-10 years. Especially if he doesn't have a crime
> history and good behavior. Enough time to really
> think hard about what he has done.


yes, 5-10 years is equal to a child's entire life

fucking dumbass

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sarcasm? ()
Date: July 14, 2014 07:05PM

Not sure what you are trying to get at here? Name is irrelevant- end of story. Papers and media will never give up that information because of her age- Thank God.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: year! ()
Date: August 02, 2014 11:21AM

Crazy how today marks a year since Marlow's arrest and he has been in jail ever since. I am sure it has been the longest year of his life. A year that changed so many lives. Wonder how much more time he will have behind bars to reflect on what he did? I hope the victim is healing and able to live a positive life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: cancel all school sports ()
Date: August 02, 2014 01:40PM

School sports are expensive, they promote elitism and detract from education in core subjects. This whole molestation thing is the straw that breaks the camel's back. It is time to cancel them once and for all.

If kids want to play sports, their parents can enroll them in athletic clubs.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: clubs ()
Date: August 03, 2014 10:07AM

Do you actually think things like this don't happen in Athletic Clubs? It happens EVERYWHERE. If it can happen in the Catholic Churches with priests NOBODY is off limits anywhere. And from what I gather, this case was NOT school affiliated. sports are great overall in schools. It keeps many kids active and out of trouble, off the streets and holds them accountable for their grades. School sports will never go away.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Updates? ()
Date: August 22, 2014 10:01AM

Any updates?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: field hockey ()
Date: August 22, 2014 10:45AM

you don't think female coaches ever take a taste of the young stuff?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Looking for more? ()
Date: August 22, 2014 11:30AM

field hockey Wrote:
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> you don't think female coaches ever take a taste
> of the young stuff?


BBC?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: field hockey ()
Date: August 22, 2014 11:37AM

I don't know what 'BBC?' means.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: CaptainObvious ()
Date: August 22, 2014 03:33PM

^
The British Broadcasting System

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: in case anyone cares ()
Date: September 09, 2014 11:11AM

Marlow's sentencing hearing is tomorrow, Sept 10th. Faces possibility of life in prison.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: LDVwD ()
Date: September 09, 2014 12:31PM

I would guess the level of "care" would only to make sure he gets life.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: doubtful ()
Date: September 10, 2014 11:40AM

My guess is he wont get life. I hope the victim is doing well and that whatever the outcome is, she will be ok with. Much strength for everyone involved. It must be a very trying day to say the least.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: nothing on the court website ()
Date: September 10, 2014 01:29PM

seems like this case has fallen off of everyone's radar - on to the next hot topic.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: 15 years for Talley ()
Date: September 10, 2014 03:23PM


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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: hoops parent2 ()
Date: September 10, 2014 03:51PM

wow - that's about all i can say at this point - wow. I knew Marlow back at Hoop Magic. you really cannot predict how life will unfold.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: relieved ()
Date: September 10, 2014 04:33PM

Considering he was facing life, I am sure he has to be somewhat relieved to be given 15 years. The whole thing is just so crazy!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggmacc ()
Date: September 10, 2014 11:09PM

15 years was the max he could get. Glad they gave him all they could. He plead " no contest" to charges and said the 12 year old girl was the aggressor? 8,600 email/ text messages between them with him asking when they could get together again. People tried to use every excuse/reason why Marlo did not do this. YES He did!! I just glad they got him and I really hope there are not others out there he has done the same to but how many criminals do they catch the first time they break the law?
Hope he has fun in jail. They love those Big Bitches. Don't drop the soap

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: secret ()
Date: September 11, 2014 07:49AM

Crazy that he accused the "12" year old as the aggressor. He was "39"- he could have handled things way different if he really thought it was not right. Even if "she" was the aggressor- which I highly, highly doubt- that only means "he" created that in her. Kids want to be accepted. He was a iconic figure in the basketball world. Look at his size. Not many people probably ever told him "no". He took advantage of his role as coach and probably felt "she" would never give him up. So many kids keep secrets their whole life like this and it destroys them- you have to give applause to the victim for going to authorities because who knows where "he" would have taken this if she didn't. He knew what the consequences were going to be if he got caught- people do crazy things to victims to make sure their "secret" never gets out. Just so sad across the board!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mbmmc ()
Date: September 11, 2014 08:39AM

I guess he will be teaching Basketball to the other immates. Any chance of an appeal?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: appeal ()
Date: September 11, 2014 09:37AM

I wouldn't imagine he can appeal. Word has it TODAY is his birthday. I bet he never thought he would be spending it behind bars.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Hrundi V Bakshi ()
Date: September 11, 2014 09:48AM

15 years is a looooong time in the joint for a child molester. Every day will be hell. And that's a good thing.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: shorter ()
Date: September 11, 2014 06:00PM

He will probably get out in 12 1/2 years, being he already put a full year in. Enough time to think long and hard what he did and hopefully to get some counseling to make him a better person in society.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Hrundi V Bakshi ()
Date: September 11, 2014 06:43PM

He may not live 2 months unless they put him in isolation.

Child molestors have no friends in the joint.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: appeal ()
Date: September 12, 2014 06:55AM

I wonder if he can appeal his case? Crazy how others who do worse things get less time. Each of these were one count. I guess it all comes down to the judge that day.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: I will say it again ()
Date: September 12, 2014 07:55AM

all Marlow needs to do apparently is hire the same attorney down in Hanover County that represented Todd Attkisson in his felony underage sex case. Fascinating to me how different the outcomes. Read about that case down in Ashland, VA. Read up on how Todd defied court orders and kept up the relationship with the underage girl - 14 year old girl. yeah - Marlow just needs to hire that attorney.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: age ()
Date: September 12, 2014 09:06AM

age of victims play a huge role in sentencing. Being the victim was 12 years old at the time- it makes sentencing more severe. If she was 13 or older, things may have turned out much differently for him. Regardless- anyone under 18 is too young. Again he was 39. There is no justification.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: sorry ()
Date: September 12, 2014 05:53PM

I hope all the people that thought the accuser was a "liar" have the decency to show they're sorry! It's bad enough she was going through this, let alone having others not believing her. It's a cruel world we live in and humans are the ones that make it so rough. Do you really think this situation is something the victim and her family would want to follow them for the rest of their life? I hope she is strong, because shit like this can put people into deep dark depression! Hang in there, girl!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: mKYMK ()
Date: September 12, 2014 07:25PM

sorry Wrote:
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> I hope all the people that thought the accuser was
> a "liar" have the decency to show they're sorry!
> It's bad enough she was going through this, let
> alone having others not believing her. It's a
> cruel world we live in and humans are the ones
> that make it so rough. Do you really think this
> situation is something the victim and her family
> would want to follow them for the rest of their
> life? I hope she is strong, because shit like
> this can put people into deep dark depression!
> Hang in there, girl!


who the fuck are you talking to?

this is not the place for your shit

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: relevant ()
Date: September 13, 2014 09:35AM

Why such the hostility? I think the comment was very relevant and it is the right place to voice that. Looks like he/she is talking to all the people on the string and then some that felt the victim was a liar. Truth always comes out!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: keepin it real ()
Date: September 15, 2014 12:50PM

i mean, to be REAL, none of us posting here about the situation with Marlow were actually there when whatever happened actually happened - and like his defense attorney said at the sentencing hearing - at the end of the day you still have two different stories. So, personally, i don't plan on apologizing to anyone about what my opinion was/still is/might be about the whole situation. SO - stop acting like some of you know exactly what happened. Cuz you don't. and that's real.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: guilty ()
Date: September 15, 2014 03:26PM

Well, clearly if anyone was at the sentencing, like myself, and you heard the prosecutor read aloud many of the texts that Marlow was sending the girl, you would be absolutely HORRIFIED. They clearly state how much went on and what his intentions were with her. Anyone in that room Wednesday, hands down, would give him the guilty verdict. It was beyond awful.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: please ()
Date: September 15, 2014 06:44PM

Let's be real, the girl is not innocent either. If you heard the text messages she also entertained the idea and yes he should have known better (which he himself said out loud in open court), she still knows right from wrong she's not that stupid. She can't beven that stupid if she has accomplished all they said she did in open court. Also they even said she tried to contact him and he wantRd nothing to do with her so get your facts straight. That being said unfortunately the law is the law and he committed a felony by texting all of the things he did. They are both in the wrong.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggmacc ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:05PM

No he committed a felony by having sex with a 12 year old girl. A 6th grade child. He had her suck his dick. That is why he is now in jail for 15 years. Do not try and put this on the child he raped. She is a child. If you do not understand this the athorities need to keep an eye on you. Only a petaphial would think like yourself

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: JHpLU ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:10PM

Biggmacc Wrote:
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> No he committed a felony by having sex with a 12
> year old girl. A 6th grade child. He had her suck
> his dick. That is why he is now in jail for 15
> years. Do not try and put this on the child he
> raped. She is a child. If you do not understand
> this the athorities need to keep an eye on you.
> Only a petaphial would think like yourself


I agree with this post, but the poster REALLY needs an education.

"petaphial" Really!?!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: years ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:21PM

For your information this happened over 2 years ago when the girl was 12 YEARS OLD!!! She is going to be 15. I only hope that she is doing GREAT things, as they said. (Marlow can't get any brownie points for that). Middle School is when girls are at their most vulnerable stage of being accepted and trying to figure out who they are. Of course a 12 year old is going to play "follow the leader" when there is a man 6'7" tall giving her direction and attention! You don't have to look like or be known as a monster to do these things. In fact it's usually the nicest of people that commit these offenses. Never was there a time that he didn't want to hear from her. NEVER! Trust me. Get your facts right! It is not unfortunate that the law is the law. Be thankful we have laws. Bottom line is, when it comes to kids- there is hardly ever sympathy or leniency to the perpetrator....My guess is you don't have kids- or you would be thinking a LOT differently. OH,let's not forget when the Judge said that her story was very credible and truthful because there was hardcore evidence from his texts that backed up all of the physical things he would and wanted to do to her.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: DcuLC ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:26PM

did he ever physically touch her? or was it all texts?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ok ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:33PM

I understand he was wrong as does he. I said they are both wrong. I didn't say that I agree with what he did, learn to read. My point is that there is much more to what happened than what we all know so don't be quick to assume and act like we know everything. As one of the posters above said, no one knows what really happened except for the two that were there. Again, I am not saying what he did is right. I'm just saying everyone on here is quick to judge and no one knows the facts. If she was coming onto him like he claims then he should have told her parents right away and gotten himself out of the situation. If he was coming onto her like she says then she should have told her parents right away. I don't know what actually happened and how long it took for her to turn him in but it was said that they were texting over an 8 month period so that is a pretty long time. If it was up to me and it was my kid I wouldn't be in this situation because I wouldn't have left them unattended with a trainer, I don't care who it is or how much I trust them. But again, I don't have the facts on where the parents were in this situation so I will just leave it at again I am not saying he is right or that kids should be sexually abused. Thank you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ok ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:41PM

Clearly there was much more evidence than what was said (that none of us know about) against him if he is in jail for 15 years. Hopefully the victim and her family have moved on from this along with his family.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: class ()
Date: September 15, 2014 09:47PM

Everyone needs a course on Sexual Abuse. You will clearly understand why a victim acts the way that they do and continue with the motions for however long they have to. NEVER should she feel at FAULT! NEVER! 12 years old can be talked into anything. For all we know he told her, "IF you tell anyone, I will kill your family!" You don't know what he did to be sure his BEST KEPT SECRET wasn't unveiled. We clearly know enough of the crucial facts- that is why he pleaded no contest- meaning there was too much evidence against him to go to trial and risk a life in prison. Oh, and it took him to the sentencing to say that "he was wrong". But, I thought he was innocent? Hmm..

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ok ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:10PM

Actually I never said he was innocent. I hope you are wrong and that he didn't threaten to kill her family. Since you seem to know so much, where was the parents in all of this? Since she was 12 shouldn't they be monitoring her cell phone?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: ok ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:11PM

for the record, I am still not saying that he is right AT ALL. He is absolutely wrong in every sense.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: n6Hjw ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:13PM

DcuLC Wrote:
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> did he ever physically touch her? or was it all
> texts?


??????????????????????????

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: the truth is....... ()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:42AM

that no one that actually knows the facts about this case is wasting their time posting on FFU about this. we are all just speculating and feeding off of the feeling that somehow passing judgment on others will make us feel better about our own lives. spend less time worrying about what Marlow did or didn't do and more time focusing on your own kids and lives.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: yes ()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:55AM

of course! That is why he is spending 15 years in prison.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: class ()
Date: September 16, 2014 08:02AM

A grown man that is up against spending time in jail if any of his behavior was revealed can make him do and say crazy things. I was only referring that he may have said that to the victim under the circumstances. My question is Where was his wife in all of this? For the amount of text they were sending back and forth, he had to be pretty consumed and not with in her presence. He also had 2 little girls. I think to myself, how would Marlow feel if some guy was moving in on one of his daughters?! I think 15 years is a walk in the park, considering.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Player ()
Date: September 16, 2014 02:47PM

I trained with him so many years and I had no idea he was like this aside from a few inappropriate comments. How do you expect parents to know that this was going to happen. I have extremely caring parents and I do not blame them for sending me to train with him. Just a thought.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Biggmacc ()
Date: September 16, 2014 02:59PM

Afshartous, 39, of Reston, was arrested Aug. 3 on counts of sodomy, object sexual penetration and solicitation to manufacture child pornography.

It was more then text messages

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: easier ()
Date: September 16, 2014 04:17PM

The detectives and prosecutors team would not send a man to 15 years of jail time if there wasn't grounds and concrete evidence. When you do a crime against a child the punishment will always be severe. I just boggles my mind that Marlow would risk everything. Wife, kids, seeing his own parents, training, freedom. Crazy!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: really? ()
Date: September 17, 2014 05:49AM

Looking at this conversation, I cannot believe some of the things said here. First of all, if you have kids on your own, you would never blame a 12 yr old girl or say she is not innocent either. Marlow is father of two daughters and he is an adult, a grown up man, and then the girl is 12 yrs old. Maybe the girl has some issues what comes to getting attention but not by any means this was her fault, there should not be any question about that. Marlow is very good at manipulating and making himself look good and always tries to blame everyone else for his actions and just lies to get himself out of trouble.

Why Marlow risked everything? Because he is the type of person that has always got away with things. He has never really had to take any responsibility of his actions and I bet this time too, he thought he would get away with it somehow. Use the girl for a while and then move on to the next affair. Obviously he has some serious problems, mentally and with his personality, and he would have needed therapy a long time ago. Problem with these kind of people is, they never see it themselves, and to the outside, they seem like the world´s nicest person.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: spoton ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:04AM

Exactly!

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: wrap ()
Date: September 24, 2014 05:48PM

Still trying to wrap my head around all of this.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: CH3NO2 ()
Date: September 24, 2014 06:43PM

wrap Wrote:
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> Still trying to wrap my head around all of this.

Why? He was found guilty and is going to prison. Hopefully the young lady can move on with her life without too much damage.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: metoo ()
Date: September 25, 2014 09:58AM

I hope she can too!!!! Amazing how some still feel he is innocent or that the situation wasn't worthy of letting the authorities know. People have a hard time with seeing someone that they have known be sent to prison. Especially if they didn't know this side of him.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Gross ()
Date: September 25, 2014 11:39AM

When will the girl turn 18?
Can't let hat experience go to wast.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Smallie Bigs ()
Date: September 25, 2014 12:10PM

Concealed Carrier Wrote:
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> Good. This what you get when you let them niggers
> off with your daughters. Niggers don't have go
> looking for white girls/your daughters, they just
> wait for you to deliver them.
>
> Oh he was a good neighbor(nigger), sure.


Nah man, we don't need them delivered, they just come on by. I am not talking about 12 year olds. I don't do that shit. But if they are old enough, the white girls come by and they are all welcomed. :-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2014 12:10PM by Smallie Bigs.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Big Dick Black ()
Date: September 25, 2014 12:32PM

Smallie Bigs Wrote:
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>
> Nah man, we don't need them delivered, they just
> come on by. I am not talking about 12 year olds. I
> don't do that shit. But if they are old enough,
> the white girls come by and they are all welcomed.
> :-)


And this is usually because black guys are always a good source for drugs. Probably the scenario behind the missing girl at UVA. Jesse Matthews was her drug dealer and he may have decided he wanted something other than cash for payment.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Barry Obama ()
Date: September 25, 2014 12:34PM

If I had a son, he'd look like Marlow.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: seriously? ()
Date: September 25, 2014 12:39PM

You didn't just say that! Really? That's the best you can offer to this forum. I pray you never have kids- especially a daughter! And if you do one day, remember your own words and let me know how that goes for you.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: WHY? ()
Date: September 25, 2014 12:41PM

Why do you say that? Do you?

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: Naive ()
Date: October 01, 2014 01:34PM

To say that you put blame on the victim just as much as Marlow is such a naive and closed mind thinking. You are saying a 40 year old man and a 12 year old girl have the same thought process with the same intentions towards one another? From what I gather, Marlow was very in tune to kids and pretty much surrounded himself with them throughout the day, every day. The one thing that they ALL had in common is their love for basketball. He was supposed to be a trainer/coach to make players better in their game. THAT IS IT! He wasn't hired by parents to take advantage of his players. A girl of that age can be VERY vulnerable, especially when her peers think Marlow is the best guy in town. I am sure he made her feel special and more important than any of his past and present players- that's the sick part. I am sure he fed her lots of BS and yes, a 12 year old will believe most of what is being told to them. To think that she waited a whole year and a half after the abuse took place to speak out, just tells you the hold he had on her. It was probably the hardest thing she ever had to do. I can't even imagine. So maybe you need to reevaluate your thoughts. Obviously, you have never walked in a victim's shoes.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: see ()
Date: October 15, 2014 01:19PM

So true. When you see a bunch of kids training with him for so many years, you automatically thinks it's okay. For all we know, this may be a first time situation But, I guess it only takes one time. Especially given the age of the victim. I wonder if he can appeal his 15 year sentence?

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I was in jail with him right before his trial FACTS
Posted by: jeff gollobin ()
Date: January 02, 2015 11:09AM

I was in Loudon County in C-Pod At the time also known as the Pedo-Pod (what a coincidence LOL) Frankly he had every single person in there beleiving he was innocent, he just seemed way to nice and not a single person thought or wanted to think it was true... I was always a little bit skeptical but thats just my nature. He did it, anyone who knew him while we were in there could tell you hands down simply by the way he reacted before his trial up to the point where the time ticked away and got closer and closer. He even made the mistake of telling people when he met his lawyer He got upset because he didnt disclose to his own lawyer that he carried out a relationship with the Mother "ALSO" yes he said the word also and when he did at the poker table that I ran we all litterally stopped dead. The silence continued for minutes until he walked away and sat alone and quiet for the next three days. Anyone who would like information about what he was like and the things he said before his trial feel free to email me. feel free to check my record and you will be able to see that i was in fact with him before his Trial on C-Pod... He did it... The girl totally was fucking with him too though, excuse? no but lets be real bitches will be bitches... in the same thought i guess Pedos will be Pedos LOL yikes.... /byebyeMarlowButtholeWhenHeGoesDownTheRoad/

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Re: I was in jail with him right before his trial FACTS
Posted by: ludicrous ()
Date: January 03, 2015 10:38AM

I highly doubt Marlow will EVER admit to his wrongdoing- although evidence proves much differently hence his 15 yr. sentence. The fact that you call a 12 yr. old a bitch and blame her just as much as a 40yr.old-pretty much tells us why you were in the slammer, too. As far as the Mom- I will believe that when hell freezes over. Marlow shouldn't be giving himself that much credit. That just ludicrous.

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Re: Another male coach assaulting young girls
Posted by: JudgementDay ()
Date: September 10, 2015 12:55PM

One down- 12 to go.

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