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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Jesuislajustice ()
Date: July 22, 2015 02:19AM

If anyone got caught in queens or nyc for that matter please don't hesitate to contact me. My email is jesuislajustice0@gmail.com.

I will write my story in detail when I have more time, but for now I would like to get in contact with some other victims that got caught as well. Just to get more info. I too feel I got caught by the guy with the tattoos, however when I bit, he was with a shill (accomplice).

Quick info, I got caught by forest park near the two bus stops q55 and q37, by reading other testimonies I feel like he was probably heading towards the gas station not to far from where I was.

I saw a YouTube video where Someone posted that a victim got caught in fresh pond and metropolitan.

My all point in where I am getting at is that I feel we can catch these guys if we work together (at least in nyc).

The photo I am posting is the final moment of one of the most assinine transactions I have ever agreed to. The scum Italian which I now surmise to be a romanian gypsy tells me to take a picture of his email address. Tells me to hit him up so i can stay with him Italy in his place and also wear his collection at his next fashion exhibition. Yes, I fell for the whole thing.

It took a lot of courage to finally admit that he fucked me good.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Mark Johnson ()
Date: July 22, 2015 10:18PM

Yup same thing happened to me in Edmonton Alberta. Guy flagged me down and said he was coming from a store in West Edmonton Mall and he was wondering where the airport was. Then he told me he had 6 jackets and he got them as a gift and couldn't bring them all back to Italy because of some import tax. Told him I have no money and he said they were $1000 jackets and pulled the Armani site up on my phone and I continued to tell him I had no money for jackets and pointed to where the airport was and told him to have a nice day

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: REM ()
Date: July 22, 2015 11:31PM

The three phoney Armani jackets that I got sucked in by his airport line in Toronto Yorkville area smell so bad that they are going to get thrown in the dumpsters as the Plastic is very bad for you. July 22 2015

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: FrankieJ ()
Date: August 29, 2015 11:57PM

I had same thing happened today Bathurst and Steeles. Address and phone same you have on your card just name of the person is different.
Asked for directions to 401 and than gave me 3 jackets free but wanted to help him on the 4th jacket to buy his wife iPad so wanted to know how much can I give him. I gave his jackets back and said have no money on me . Damn good thing I didn't fall for it.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: words of wisdom ()
Date: August 30, 2015 04:30PM

Those guys might be in the Mafia.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Byron W ()
Date: September 05, 2015 10:12AM

please send me the pictures you have of this man if you still have them. He will be caught.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Crazy one ()
Date: September 05, 2015 02:37PM

I always have some fake bills with me.. Even one with a million dollars on it.
I hand it out to lazy bums all the time.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Fully ()
Date: September 05, 2015 09:37PM

Looks like these guys are all over.
Where do they get those jackets..this is like an investment for them lol

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Chinh ()
Date: September 09, 2015 06:42PM

I met the guy in downtown Palo Alto, CA on Lytton. Same story.... He just finished a show and needed directions to the airport. He was driving a SUV and wanted to show me some of the samples as he didn't want to carry it back to Italy.

I suspected something was fishy as he didn't seemed like hr was in a hurry if he was trying to catch a plane, and we were having a pleasant, but long discussion.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: bert ()
Date: September 10, 2015 09:15PM

Watch out, reporting the same exact thing as everyone HERE IN Montreal! Even used Fashion week festival here. Don't be scammed and walk away, if its too good to be true, then it certainly is.

Used the same tricks: approached me by asking where the airport direction is. lighter flame on leather, giving all as "presents", but selling one for car rental fees. There's only one italian guy, and in a rush to catch his flight. Very good salesman, very nice attitude. BEWARE!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Not gullible ()
Date: September 16, 2015 06:21PM

Same story. Happened at 7th street in San Jose, CA. I almost fell for it. He used his iphones gps when we went to the atm. While in his car, i pretended like my phone died lol anyway before that i took a picture with him since he was "famous".
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Near LAX, today less than a couple of hours ago
Posted by: Sean ()
Date: September 23, 2015 08:50PM

The post above me^^. That same guy. Heavy Italian accent. I Bump into him at the alley behind my house. He was driving a black Audi SUV. Vehicle seemed like a rental from Avis or Hertz (not sure). He said he needed help getting to the airport. (Airport is 10 min away).

I could tell it was a scam the moment he gave me his business card. The card itself was all black with Georgio Armani in big letters on top. How could I tell it was a scam? The back of the card was all white. The card itself felt cheap as hell.

He offered 4 jackets. Said he didn't want to pay "tax" on them. Was selling them for 1200$. I said no, was polite and that was that. The jackets seemed like REALLY good fakes (and I know my fakes). He kept asking me my size in order to "give him some of the jackets".

Basically same old shpeal as the posts on this thread the only difference being the quality of jackets and the type of car (high end SUV). The price he was charging was also a lot more than others have been asked (The jackets themselves probably costs less than 30$ to make).

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Sean ()
Date: September 23, 2015 09:25PM

The post above me^^. That same guy. Heavy Italian accent. I Bump into him at the alley behind my house. He was driving a black Audi SUV. Vehicle seemed like a rental from Avis or Hertz (not sure). He said he needed help getting to the airport. (Airport is 10 min away).

I could tell it was a scam the moment he gave me his business card. The card itself was all black with Georgio Armani in big letters on top. How could I tell it was a scam? The back of the card was all white. The card itself felt cheap as hell.

He offered 4 jackets. Said he didn't want to pay "tax" on them. Was selling them for 1200$. I said no, was polite and that was that. The jackets seemed like REALLY good fakes (and I know my fakes). He kept asking me my size in order to "give him some of the jackets".

Basically same old shpeal as the posts on this thread the only difference being the quality of jackets and the type of car (high end SUV). The price he was charging was also a lot more than others have been asked (The jackets themselves probably costs less than 30$ to make).

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Re: Beware - italian guy in SUV - scam artists (emporio luxury watches)
Posted by: Charles ()
Date: September 29, 2015 05:09PM

Beware of smooth talking Italian guy trying to sell emporio luxury watches from a black SUV. Trying to sell five watches for the price of one. Has a fake website emporioluxurywatches.com. and fake passport with tons of credit cards. I think he also try to get your credit card information. The website is fake with a limited selections of watches.

Guy will give you a sob story about not being able to pay taxes on the watches before he goes back to Italy. Pretends that he is lost with a map to get to the airport. Very sneaky. Call the police after he approaches and get his license plates number. He is trying to purchase I-phones with the money he receives. Pass the word. He removes his website after he leaves your area.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Art ()
Date: September 29, 2015 09:39PM

Aurora CO they got me $120.00 for two jackets nicely packed tag reads made in china and under say Italia style when is folded reads made in Italy.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: D ()
Date: October 03, 2015 04:37PM

03/10/15 - DUBAI_UAE.

Same story (looking for airport/don't want to pay taxes for suits that had as 'leftovers' after an exhibition in Abu Dhabi/want to buy his daughter a birthday present/want to be your friend blablabla but now happening in...Dubai). 2 fat guys in their late 50s-early 60s (not the guy pictured before though, so these guys are a big team). Story didn't hold up a)why would you fly from/out of Dubai if you're visiting Abu Dhabi b)guy (Marco btw-for today anyway) said he's based in Milan but his card said...Rome. He did drop the 'Emporio Armani' word but I know the brand well and actually told him these are not such so he didn't insist. Btw his card does not mention Emporio Armani-just Emporio A Collezione. But actually the 3 suits + 1 jacket offered for 'free' were of good quality and bargained a good price for them so no regrets! The creepy part is I was actually planning to buy a couple of suits in the same cut/colour...! The whole experience is quite dodgy so if you decide to buy, at least make sure the quality is good and price is reasonable.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: October 04, 2015 08:15AM

These guys are currently in Dubai driving a GMC SUV.
Offering Italian suits.
Same description as the guys in NYC.
Worst business card I ever saw, looks like a kids school project.

The short guy was so funny I listened to his "pitch" and had a laugh with him.....very obviously a scam...but he was very polite and not that pushy.

They were in the Meadows district of Dubai, waiting outside a gym in their car asking for directions.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Artyom ()
Date: October 06, 2015 02:48AM

Yesterday faced with one of them in Dubai driving white Honda CR-V (by Hertz).
All the same story with help to airport, suits from excibition and bla-bla-bla.
Unfortunately due to deep evening and strong fatigue I didn't pay a proper attention to a dialog and finally offered him myself! a 300$ (1200dhm) for the "gift" of three suits and a leather bag...it's a first time ever in my life I had such a stupid fuckup, so paid the price for experience.
What's good is that fabric quality is more less fine and suits would probably fit some of my friend who used to follow office dress-code.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Rick D ()
Date: October 09, 2015 12:39AM

Well tonight 10/8/15 was approached with the same m/o as above in Pleasnt Hill Ca. at Sun Valley Mall in front of Macys Mens Store, " How Do We Get To SFO " thank you for your kindness I have something for you for free, then came the BS.... 5 jackets and a suit for 800.00 then it dropped all the way down to 100.00 after about 10 min. I told them I wasnt going to buy anything and to have a safe trip. I had a feeling something was up, got home looked up the business card and name and found this and other sites. My fathers words hit me just then, if its too good to be true it probably is. Glad they didnt get my money, I guess Im one of the lucky ones.......

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Markoss11 ()
Date: October 09, 2015 07:58PM

Other similar scam around manassas . A Italian guy approaching the people and offering some free cologne. He is saying something like It was a overstock merchandise from him store around .Small car Tag from Maryland end 4535

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: ImrAn Zahid ()
Date: October 10, 2015 02:29AM

Dubai Emirates tower hotel . Same thing happen to me I was standing outside the Emirates tower hotel waiting for my car to arrive, a short stature guy around 40 dark red hair approached me asking for directions to go to sheikh Zayed road and further to ABU dhabi where he is attending fashion show in Emirates palace hotel.Once done he thanked me and switched gears introduced himself as a fashion designer gave me his card which says " Carmine" emporio collezion". He also mention that he came to attend exhibition ,has remaining suits will give me for free showed me an EEC passport ,took me to His car " RAV" old parked in front of hotel lobby to show me suits.. Told me to take the suit as gift since he can not take it back .. And than told me he has 2000 Dirham only will appreciate if I can give him money so he can but two iPhone 6 for his two sons .. He made me wear a jacket nice fitting ,later took out three of them showed me a bill saying he paid 10000 euro, asked me to give him 7000 dirham .. Later took out a yellow Fendi shopping bag with purse in its wrapping .. I was short of time gave him 3000 ... Later my wife looked at the goods and told me it was all fake . Now I realize this guy was actually Russian and carrying a fake Italian designer guy look , he was actually a Russian scam Artist who must have seen me taking out money from ATM in Emirates boulevard mall in the hotel. I was so hurt after loosing my hard earned money to those Russian scam artist. Please watch out for these Russian mafia which has heavily infested Dubai . Don't trust anyone watch out while in Dubai these thugs are after you..

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: bobchan ()
Date: October 13, 2015 12:27PM

Spotted them in the Plateau neighbourhood, Montreal, Canada! Theres two of them inside a black Range Rover, asking for directions, which is their first line.

I'm never getting scammed again. Warning, they are targeting Mcgill university students!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Date: October 15, 2015 09:48PM

So it happened today my brother got scammed by some wannabe Italian and told him he needed money and first asked for directions and so my brother told him than he made him an offer that he would give him 1 jacket for $800 and my brother said no than said they would give home one jacket for $300 and give him 2 for free my brother agreed and we came to this web and found out it was a scam so plz people don't fall for these two men's trap.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Oh No Italian ()
Date: October 16, 2015 03:25PM

The same thing happened to me today in Paris / france !!
One guy = Italian? came to me when I walked on the street.
He was driving white FIAT, looked very new car.
He said he wants to drive back to Italy but his card is not availabe
because of Casino and no cash to have gas.
He gave me 2 jackets as a gift and business card, and beg money for gas.
I gave him 50.00euro that I had.
He told me to go a bank to have more cash, but I refused and went away.

The jacket is LA SRTORIA brand? The appearance are no bad
but not good, as other people say.

F..king Italian!!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Another Sucker ()
Date: October 19, 2015 06:18PM

These guys get around that much or is it an international scam?
Same story, one Italian guy, well dressed, iPhone, nice truck, off to the airport...

Just hit me today in Toronto.
Same story.

Need to find someway to prevent this.
All our comments are after the fact.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: lou butler ()
Date: October 29, 2015 11:22AM

He's back in Sherman Oaks. Same Wells Fargo parking lot as posted back on October 26, 2013. Two years later, same story. Wanted directions to airport, wanted to give me a gift. Gives me his Giorgio Armani business card: "Francesco Q." (How cute). With an email of armani@hotmail.com (Really??). Shows the three lather and one suade jacket, and has me hold an Armani bag as he puts them in there, then says "they are for you." Yeah, right. Time to go. I just said goodbye. I loved the way he would play with his broken English/Italian and double talk. If you work for Armani, why would you be bringing back Armani jackets to Italy to begin with?

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Catherine M ()
Date: October 29, 2015 08:06PM

Yeah me and my boyfriend just got scammed in Bronx NY! Paid $150 for two jackets. I actually believed them and convinced my boyfriend to give the money. I feel so bad but I mean at least the jackets are cute.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Recipeter ()
Date: October 30, 2015 04:21PM

Beware, everyone! The guy was in Washington DC on around Dupont Circle! Thank goodness I did not get scammed. I noticed the red flags but I didn't leave fast enough. I was walking back home from work when this guy pulled over in his rental SUV and asked me for directions to Dulles International Airport. He told me he was from Milano, Italy and that he was here for a business trip. He told me he got rejected for help from someone else so I felt sorry for him and gave him directions. The guy then introduced himself as "Rocco," a manager from Giorgio Armani. I thought this was impressive. He then showed me 3 nice leather jackets that he would give me for free from Giorgio Armani. FIRST RED FLAG. I thought the jackets were nice and I couldn't believe it. I went along to see what he had to say. He said he had to give these jackets away because he doesn't want to pay the "customs tax." SECOND RED FLAG. There is no such thing. I've traveled outside of the country and I had to pay no tax. Also, as a manager for Armani, one must be making bank and he should be able to pay for it. He then talked about his kids and told me he has no cash and he wants to buy his kids an iPod and a Xbox before he returns to Italy. THIRD RED FLAG. It is strange that a manager from Armani does not have cash on him. He asked me for 1000 dollars for the third jacket and I told him I am completely broke, but I might have 150 dollars in my bank. He immediately tells me fine, can you withdraw the 150 dollars and I can pay the rest. FOURTH RED FLAG! First he tells me he has no cash to pay for an iPod and a Xbox and then he tells me that "I can pay the rest"!?!? God. I played along and I knew something strange was going on. The FIFTH RED FLAG was I tried searching him up on google while I was next to him and I couldn't find his name. I repeatedly asked him to give me his business card, but he would not give it to me. He tried to make me feel guilty by saying that I don't trust him and that I offended him. He was absurd. A business card is just a piece of paper with your name and contact info. I just wanted to look at it. He showed me it but wouldn't let me hold it. The business card and not being able to find him on google was a deal break. I should have left in the beginning. I was fooled, but luckily I didn't fall for his scam and give him money. Thank god that I am a broke college student. :P

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Ed ()
Date: November 05, 2015 09:19PM

This fucker is in Portland Oregon scammed me for 300

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Antonio Rizzovicci ()
Date: November 05, 2015 09:32PM

HEY ALL YOU MOTHER FUCK ASSHOLES THANK FOR THE BIZNESS I SELL MORE JACKET OVER ANY BUDDY! NO YOU SON OF THE BITCH MY JACKET ES 100% REAL LEATHER D'ITALIANO I AM NOT THE GIPSEY. I AM COMING TO NY NEXT A MONTH. I WILL HAVE A SALE FOR THE CRISTMASS. BUY FOR ALL FAMLY 50% OFF FOR YOU MOTHER FUCKER EH

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: JJJJJJ ()
Date: November 07, 2015 04:22PM

DAmn those bastards scammed me too!!! After grocery shopping in the parking lot in el paso tx!I fell for his story that it would cost him money going through customs lol damn it sucks but still kinda funny. I knew something was fishy we have to put a stop to these bastards!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Reggie ()
Date: November 11, 2015 09:49PM

Got me here n Tucson,AZ AT THE WALMART OFF OF PARK.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: some guy ()
Date: November 17, 2015 06:06PM

Two Italians in beverly hills approached me saying they had a flight back to iltaly since they had finish a good bussines deal same company rental black SUV tryed to explain me they have a box of perfume they could take back to Italy because the didn't allow in the plane meanwhile talking in Spanish so I told them I didn't have money so they when down the street and saw them do the exactly thing to other person driver was white Cricket Teeth (bottom) blue eyes passenger seat he was looking around didn't really have a good look at them guess they're in case scamming beware

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Lisa M ()
Date: November 27, 2015 01:01PM

I wonder if my trucker hubby somehow ran across some of these. He was at a truck stop in PA when he ran across an Italian couple trying to get to Newark Airport from NY, seemingly lost. They said they were from Milan and barely spoke English. They had passports, plane tickets, and a rental car. He gave them directions to the airport and even helped to fix a flat tire.

They gave him a leather jacket (for me) that has tags that say AC Dimilano Last Collection. I know leather and this is real - a nice suede with a pleasant leathery scent. They never tried to sell him anything.

So, it could have been a scam or not.

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same asshole as others have noted in Palm Desert, CA today
Posted by: Jorge D ()
Date: November 27, 2015 11:11PM

Nothing is ever free. Keep it in mind and you won't get scammed.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Heyhey ()
Date: November 30, 2015 07:04PM

Same shit just happend to me in the Bay Area California. Same bullshit story about the airport and lighter trick. I could tell by his body language that he was not interested in my directions to the airport once I gave them to him, but rather moving on to show me how thankful he was about it....Fucking bullshit, if you're a rich motherfucking designer and can't pay tax fee on the shit that you designed, wtf. But I understood why he wanted to get rid of them(maybe just wanted to avoid bullshit fees on the way back) then I could tell he was very disappointed when I said I didn't have any money. He had me till, "ya I need money for tax fee for my daughters iPhone that I'm taking to italy" (that was the only item he was taking according to him)
Shit looked legit tho, but my gut senses were tingling.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: up your italian boot ()
Date: December 03, 2015 12:17PM

People v. Jorge Zazueta, Et. al.: A multi co-defendant case involving convictions related to allegations of illegal towing and vehicle tampering for unlawful “booting” of cars in private parking lots.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Jayl ()
Date: December 03, 2015 08:16PM

Hi. It's crazy, they're everywhere, I was approached by two Italian guys at the mall today, the driver asked me for directions to the airport, after I told him how to get there he said he was a designer for Armani, he said they were coming back from a fashion show, and he had a few jackets left, he asked me what size I was, then he offered me a jacket for my help.. I know there is nothing free so I told him I didn't have any money, he insisted for me to see the jackets, I told him no again and walked away.. Be carefully besides being polite they are very convincing...

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: December 03, 2015 11:56PM

which mall?

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: vj ()
Date: December 10, 2015 09:55PM

This happened to me today at macys at northern blvd in manhassett long island. same story, italian guy needs direction to airport, he is a designer at armani wants to give me a gift which I refused many times but eventually he got me with 5 jackets and 2 watches. terrible, I will be looking for him though.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: mikey47 ()
Date: December 11, 2015 12:04AM

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keep this article as close to original as possible.

STEP 7: Now, post your
amended article to at least 200 newsgroups, message board. (I think
there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember,
the more you post, the more money you make!

SO START NOW!!!!!

REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS OR MESSAGE BOARD YOU
POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!!
BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**

That’s it! You will begin
receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually
can rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive.
If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as
the postman will deliver it.

**JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE
CORRECT. ** :

Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only
5 replies (a very low example). So then I Made $5.00 with my name at #6
on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make
the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons
respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now
those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5
replies each, I will bring in an additional :$125.00! Now, those 125
persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and
only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now
here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200
letters with my name at #2 and they only receive 5 replies, that just
made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message
to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200
newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment
of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you
just take latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00
to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start
posting again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands
of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these
articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $6.. and
see if it really works!! I know it to be true! People have said, ‘what
if the plan is played out and no one sends you: the money? So what are
the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users
and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups
everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to
50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual
Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!?!?!?!?
——————————————————–

Seriously,
most people think this is a scam, but you actually do get thousands of
dollars out of it, it is NOT another stupid scam, if people follow
through with sending out $6, it works!!!!!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: crusade ()
Date: December 11, 2015 11:25PM

WTFI thought i was the only victim
the fuck tard(the guy has a scare on right eyebrow) did let me touch the jacket, but i wanted to look at the all the label, then he immediately put the jackets away and shove them in a bag and start to talk fast in english even he said his ENGLISH is no good like wtf??.
of course i got too soft and got 4 jackass for 150$
same stroy above, asked how to get the fuk to airport and about tax and show off his stack of 100$ bill cash, and blah blah.

plz someone do something and get our money back and most importantly deport that mofo.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: crusade ()
Date: December 12, 2015 12:18AM

THIS IS THE GUY!! BEWARE IN Norcal SouthBay Area 20140610_154353-2.jpg

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: v7Vcj ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:32PM

it's called a pyramid scheme (the mail game)

not sure if it's legal. it's a game.

it's legal until something goes very wrong, as usual

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Jk7mj ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:34PM

they will say a law is needed when it's too late, depsite the fact the law exists, refusing to prosecute the winners as "the law isnt yet written", (that's the USUAL thing governors have done lately)

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Date: December 18, 2015 01:13PM

As a manager for distribution of Armani Worldwide, I carry always samples left over from fashion shows. All over the world I sell. Harry Rosen, Neiman Marcus, Boots.

Retail $2000+ and all I ask for is directions to the airport and a few dollars for iPad.

Beautiful coats and suits are more expensive than iPad, but what my daughter do with suits?

I hope you like your suits. Smell because so fresh. Let me share secret.. window cleaner ammonia best to clean and make smell new, like fine italian leather.

Yours sincerely and God bless:

Giuseppe Scicchitano

ROBERTOFASHIONITALY AT YAHOO DOT COM

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: American Citizen ()
Date: December 18, 2015 02:31PM

Under this administration people are disposable. Hillary Clinton destroyed this country and still runs for president. Those guys fraud thousands and police has done nothing. Our government has been sending billions of dollars overseas to fight something or someone and our own people are being fu..ked.

Let's go America!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Harvey E ()
Date: January 18, 2016 07:06PM

I was in a Safeway parking lot today (Jan. 18, 2016) in Novato, Calif. when a well dressed guy pulls up in a MBZ and asks me for directions to the freeway to get to the airport in San Francisco. He is very friendly, asks some questions about me, Italy, etc. Parks his MBZ and says he is a director of the Armani Collezioni and hands me a business card "Antonio Volpe" general mgr. A.C. Collezioni. He says he is returning to Italy tonight and has some genuine Armani leather and suede mens and women jackets that he has been selling to local clothing stores in Sonoma. He would prefer not to take these coats back with him to Italy. He brings out each leather jacket from plastic wrap and says: "I would like you to have these 3 mens leather and suede jackets for free because you have been so kind." He places them in a large plastic bag which he then hands to me to hold. I said, "I really don't need them but if they are free I'll take them but I'm not going to give you any money." "No, No" he says in passable english with an Italian accent, "No money for me." He then begins to show me some womens Armani leather jackets, which he claims sell for $1, 600. He then says "I have a daughter Helena in Italy and I would like to bring her something from California. If you would buy her an iPad (not the large one) I will give you these mens and women's jackets." I tell him, "you know, I really didn't want these coats to begin with and I'm not buying anyone an Ipad, I handed him back the plastic bag and said " Arrivederci" He asks, "Did I offend you?" "No, I just don't want to buy any jackets today"...and kept walking. I then checked out the internet, found this website and am sharing my story

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Deez jackets ()
Date: January 20, 2016 02:26PM

My grandpa fell for this 7 Jackets for 300 not a bad deal but you can tell they are fake but it fits me nice so wtf

It happened in San Francisco airport or around there I think and it was like a month and a half ago I'd say

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: David partida ()
Date: January 25, 2016 07:10PM

I got four beautiful fake jackets for 200 dollar, here in Albuquerque, no bad deal..... jajajaja

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Ray ()
Date: February 03, 2016 09:22PM

They are back in the sterling area by the regal movie theater off route 7. They asked for directions to Dulles Airport. I was in a rush so I brushed him off after he offered to show me his stuff. He was in a white SUV, I think it was a Kia.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: eason ()
Date: February 18, 2016 09:48PM

Same thing happened today at San Francisco. Ask the direction to SFO.

The photo is he holding the card for me to take a photo.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Jesus H. ()
Date: February 19, 2016 03:30PM

Get a manicure...

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Fuck you, Oborona ()
Date: February 19, 2016 06:32PM

4tttY

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Andrew Delgado ()
Date: February 27, 2016 03:38PM

3:20pm 2/27/16 said Italian sold me two watches "Emporio di Milano" ticket prices 500euro each. Said it was a gif, stopped me as I entered work at 69St and Collins Miami Beach, FL. He is light skinned, short haired and was suppository "Italian" as well. Started to demand for some kind of payment because they were two 500$ watches. He was driving a white jeep. BOLO.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: KG ()
Date: February 29, 2016 04:08PM

I just got scam in a parking lot in Tampa,Fl,the same Italian guy with the same story sold me 9 watches for $450 dollars,this guy was very polite and look professional,appearance don't matter,this world is full of people that are scam artist,if you don't want to be scam there is only one option never give anyone your money,it's not a good deal and for sure it's not your lucky day,I hope for this people that are scam artist to be able to save enough money for them and there families and the date they die they will pay much more then what they have stole,in the meantime keep up the good work MOTHER FUCKERS......

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: LJvhm ()
Date: March 01, 2016 09:04AM

LJvhm

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: A guy ()
Date: March 03, 2016 03:28PM

Whach out, this happen to my yestesday en San Francisco California, a good look italian guy scamed me for 400.00 dlls for 3 jacket, he was in a White Hyunday, i dont see the plate but was a SUV

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: NhNDF ()
Date: March 03, 2016 06:28PM

NhNDF

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: WeTmb ()
Date: March 04, 2016 08:37AM

WeTmb

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Sucker 1st Class ()
Date: March 05, 2016 12:00PM

Well he got me. Same story and I fell for it. Directions to the airport, too much luggage, buy my kid an iPod @ duty free shop, etc. Well rehearsed for sure with a very heavy Italian accent. SO I got nailed for $300 for 5 jackets. Have to wonder, where these jackets come from and what they really cost. Hard way to actually make a living in my opinion. Guess I'll donate them to a charity and take the tax write off for them. Cut my losses that way and someone will benefit from having a nice jacket to wear even if it is not "real", it is a nice jacket.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: V9GYm ()
Date: March 07, 2016 05:55PM

V9GYm

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Hendoostani ()
Date: March 08, 2016 12:03AM

An italian scam artist again !!!. it happened to me this PM in front of Wells Fargo bank @ 4th and Brannan S.F. when he shouted in Italian from his black SUV that he is going to Air Port and does not want to take these "Armani Leather jackets" w/ him...I was skeptical and had a hunch this is SCAM, at first he asked just give me $400.00 !! but figured regular shirts in COSTCO will cost @ $17.00/ea,I settled 4 for $150.00 I knew some thing is FISHEEEE, till I searched Armani Site #$%#.... I am laughing @ myself why I ignored my own suspicions ???!!. Man !!!, Haven't we heard "Too cheap to be true"...Just be carefull and when in doubt, Just walk away.....

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Ginny K ()
Date: March 08, 2016 12:20AM

I got 5 jackets for $100. He started out at $150 each but it was obvious they shouldn't retail for more than $25-$30 each. They are actually not bad jackets. I'll report back here on how they hold up. Found similar jacket on Alibaba ~$9 for 2000 quantity.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Elyse f ()
Date: March 10, 2016 02:24AM

This scam apparently gone all the way to asia
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: yuUcX ()
Date: March 10, 2016 11:19AM

Think of all the internet advertisement revenue the Fairfax Underground site could have earned from this thread alone if it had banner ads on it.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: bxSF ()
Date: March 10, 2016 05:09PM

The same shit happen to me. I have his picture.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: SFAirport ()
Date: March 10, 2016 05:24PM

This is the guy scam in SF to SF airport.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Thomas Mauries ()
Date: March 14, 2016 03:01PM

Got taken yesterday heading home from church, a man in a white SUV, well dressed Italian, ask me for directions to DIA (Denver airport), wanted $535.00 dollars to buy is wife a purse for her birthday, said he can't use his credit card, just left Cherry Creek shopping center and spent all of his money; he had four leather jacket that he doesn't want to pay taxes on, and is headed back to Italy.Showed me his passport. Like a "Dumb Bell" I told him to follow me home and see what the wife thinks of the jackets. Gave him a $100, he gave me one of the jackets. Took it to a high end Men's clothing store, they stated that the jacket is worth about
$500 bucks...yes, I got taken, but thank God I didn't give him the $500 he wanted. He also wanted me to use a ATM , but I told him I don't even know how to use them.

TM

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: River ()
Date: March 16, 2016 03:25AM

Same thing above just happened to me today but he gave it to me for free.... So Idgaf... told him I don't have any money. Then I looked up his email on the card he gave me cause I was suspicious (the buisness card was printed on shitty ass paper which didn't seem like Armani's style.) And then saw this after searching his name.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Rosendo ortiz ()
Date: March 19, 2016 03:24AM

san jose california afuera de un starbucks same guys la misma tactica este es el guy quien ofrece las chamarras yo perdi una cantidad fui estafado
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: yYkXd ()
Date: March 21, 2016 12:04AM

one time in NYC in the east village, a Italian dude sold me a calzone. It was freakin' awesome. he wasn't in a car tho, he was in a shop that sold pizza and calzones.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Amir ()
Date: March 21, 2016 12:58AM

the same guy stopped to ask for directions while I was sitting at a gas station literally one mile from DFW. Since you could literally see signs to the airport I knew something was up. He pulled out a jacket (similar pitch as above) and I looked it over. He said he would give it to me for my assistance in pointing him to the airport. Then he started trying to sell me more jackets. So I looked it up on Alibaba and found the exact same jacket with prices from $9 to $15. I ended up buying 3 jackets for $50 and a so-so quality Rolex watch for $10. So he got me for $60 in total but the jackets are definitely worth it.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Joe in Cupertino ()
Date: April 01, 2016 08:23PM

Ran into one of these jokers in the parking lot where I work in Cupertino. He asked for directions to the airport so he could head back to Italy. I gave him directions but I don't think he paid attention. Then he starts conversing about work, then into fashion. He wants to give me 3 of his $1,000 jackets to avoid paying duties. Sorry, we are good at math here and the tax is cheaper than just dumping a jacket. The dress code in Cupertino is blue jeans and on fancy nights it is ironed blue jeans. Once I caught on to his scheme I gave him a firm NO and he scurried. I should have got his license plate and reported him. Anyway, heed the warnings.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Eli in LA ()
Date: April 09, 2016 05:31PM

Ge got me with 4 watches $160 near LAX. Same story.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Min ()
Date: April 11, 2016 10:18PM

I got the same event too.But now ,he is only a man who is asking to go to Airport and finally ask $500 or 200 or 100 at finalby giving the leather jacket.I don't give nothing at all but I received his business card (AC collezione who named Roberto de biase.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Jj7DF ()
Date: April 12, 2016 10:41AM

Jj7DF

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Salvo ()
Date: April 23, 2016 11:49PM

It is happened to my friend in Brampton, ON. At NoFrills parking, an Italian guy stopped for direction to airport and gave jacket for free. At the end he asked for some money to buy the iPad for his daughter. Please beware of these frauds.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Ebsworth ()
Date: April 27, 2016 03:34AM

Same happened to me in Aldi car park Buckley Flintshire, United Kingdom, yesterday, didn't fall for it and called the police, not heared anymore about it. Black 05 plate Mercedes A class.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Walker Fairfax ()
Date: April 27, 2016 01:22PM

Report to Police?

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: April 27, 2016 02:06PM

Yeah. This literally just happened to me too. Except I didn't give the guy any money. He came up asking for directions while in his SUV and said that for giving him the directions he wanted to give me the jackets but said he needed a small favor. The favor was to buy an iPod for his son (Who wasn't with him. He was alone.) because it was his son's birthday. I declined then he kept asking for money. He was like "well how much do you have? Maybe we can work something out. Can you borrow from your saving? You must have a credit card." I left after that. He did give me his business card before left. Feel free to spam it if it's even real information.

Card Information:
Roberto De Biase
Italian Fashion
Roberto.debiase@hotmail.it
Via Spiga, 419
Milano
Italia
Cell. +39 (333)758-2495
Tel./Fax +39 026524820
A.C. Collezione

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: April 27, 2016 02:08PM

This happened to me in San Mateo, CA, USA.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Poop Factory ()
Date: April 27, 2016 09:52PM

This happened to me yesterday in Evansville, IN. Two black guys in am Italian SUV asked me for directions to the poop factory. Then they smeared poop all over their faces. They gave me jackets with poop in the pockets. They got away in a SUV with Illinois plates with poop smeared on them.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Les1 ()
Date: April 27, 2016 09:54PM

Guy got me good today at Costco across from Yorkdale. 4 jackets i got for $180. Same story about looking for airport.. gifted me the jackets and then asked me for cash for an iPAD for his daughter.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Les1 ()
Date: April 27, 2016 09:58PM

Oh and also the jackets were coated in poop from the poop factory.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: MaxReyes ()
Date: April 28, 2016 08:11PM

leaving illusive comics in santa clara (great store, check it out some time). same story as you guys. hilarious. guy stops. nice car. nice suit. asks for directions to the airport. I say your right next the airport, SJC is right there. he says no, SFO. So I tell him to get on 101 North and that he went to the wrong airport (being italian is no excuse for being foolish). He says he is a fashion designer and was at fashion week and would like to repay me. shows me jackets that seem to my untrained unfashionable eye as nice jackets. lets me try one on (sleek - black- plasticy- very sexy). then he makes an almost unintelligible suggestion about getting an iPad for his son (his english was broken in what I did think at the time was an italian accent). its 250 dollars, but he would like 100. I say I'm not exchanging money, but I did offer him a 6 dollar random avenger mini-figurine, which a small child would love. he turns down my offer. so i gave him back the jacket and went home. I wonder what the daily expected earnings are when they do this....

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Chris Kwok ()
Date: May 01, 2016 01:48AM

Same thing happened to me today.

One guy, claimed to be Armani Fashion designer/manager with a team of 20+ people. Asked for directions to SFO, said he wanted to repay me with jackets, asked for money to buy his son an iphone. Heavy italian accent, almost couldnt understand him (too bad i could...) Claimed to have a rented car, showed me a lighter test of his jackets. This happened in Fremont, CA.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Chris Kwok ()
Date: May 01, 2016 01:49AM

Just viewed the other photos, my guy looked nothing like them. He was a lot younger, probably about mid thirties? Had a bit of a potbelly too though

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Pimpen ()
Date: May 01, 2016 06:03PM

They are a big crew around the American states and UK
I saw one of theme a week ago in Kansas City!

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: JjbPb ()
Date: May 05, 2016 05:24PM

JjbPb

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: almost a victim ()
Date: May 14, 2016 10:32PM

About an hour ago in garden grove, the same scam people approached me. It was the same story, guy from Italy giving away free armani, etc. I did not fall for it. They are in Garden grove, CA now.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: almost a victim ()
Date: May 14, 2016 10:38PM

This was the business card they use.
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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Poop factory ()
Date: May 15, 2016 04:34PM

This happened to me yesterday in Evansville, IN. Two black guys in am Italian SUV asked me for directions to the poop factory. Then they smeared poop all over their faces. They gave me jackets with poop in the pockets. They got away in a SUV with Illinois plates with poop smeared on them.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Beware of My Stupidity ()
Date: May 17, 2016 08:40PM

This also happened to me.

You see I'm a greedy oaf who thinks buying things out of SUVs in a parking lot is proper.

Then I figure out I'm a hipster doofus, so I go to Fairfax Underground and write about it.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Sam McElroy ()
Date: May 17, 2016 09:05PM

Same thing happened to me today in Myrtle Beach. Two Italian guys who smelled like poop came up to me in a parking lot and asked me to poop on their faces. I told them I would have to think about it. I wasn't sure if pooping on another man's face was really a good idea. Just then a flock of sea gulls came along and pooped all over the two Italian men. They were covered in bird poop. At that moment I knew they had nearly scammed me and I left to poop at a nearby Wendy's.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: UEp49 ()
Date: May 18, 2016 09:17AM

UEp49

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IMPORTANT ANALYSIS
Date: May 31, 2016 09:09AM

Be aware, they are spotted in Seattle asking about directions to the airport. They claim to bring clothes back from the fashion shows they attended to Italy and because of the 45% VAT, they want to get rid of it by giving to people for free and ask for a payment for their VAT. They just look like people in the photo posted here. In fact i am pretty sure it is the same person. It seems there are more than one group doing it, it might be an organized international fraudulent organization with clear operation protocols and ways of getting the goods they claim to belong to the famous brands. The quality of the jackets are reasonable however, the small of the chemicals makes people uncomfortable. They were last spotted traveling in pair in a white Infiniti and claim to own another Porsche. In fact, the brand and license plate of their cars are not as important in this case, since they can easily rent a different one with a fake ID each time. Their passport photos looks nothing like the real person and they have a certain taste of fashion. It seems they have been doing it for a long time and their techniques are getting smoother each time since they first spotted in 2011. They seem to be doing it all over the world, thus reporting to the local police will likely have very limited effect. Besides, the contact information provided on the different versions of business cards don't actually work, so don't even bother contacting them. People above mentioned that they might not be Italian but Russian, this might be possible for at least one of them who can speak Russian. It also might be possible some of them are Spanish since at least one of them speak Spanish as well. However, judging from the look, accent, behavioral code and the past similar incidents, the majority of them are probably Italians.

Their logic don't usually add up: (1) Designers for Armani or any other famous brands will usually be rich enough to afford the VAT. (2) They don't need to pay VAT if they bring stuff back to Italy as they brought out of the stuff from Italy by themselves. (3) If number two is not true, it will self contradict with their claim that the stuff is made in Italy. (4) Why do they need cash instead of transfer if it is so legit, cash deal has been known for a very effective way of tax evasion and underground dealing. (5) If they are so good at reading the map and can drive to the airport after you speak to them briefly, why don't them just read the map by themselves. (6) If they are for the fashion show, why can they not ask the people at the fashion show for traveling arrangement and direction? (7) Why can they not ask the direction from their hotel staff? (8) It is unbelievable that designers for major companies cannot afford and don't know how to use GPS. (9) Even if the story about paying VAT is true, it is unbelievable that they don't think about it earlier and giving stuff away to stranger pedestrians they meet on their way to the airport. (10) If the stuff are made in Italy, why do they have to bring them back from the show overseas to their families? (11) If they are so concerned by VAT, they can mail the cloth they try to take back. There are definitely multiple ways they can get rid of the clothes other than giving to random people. (12) Armani or any other big company designers don't use the company official email address on their business cards is highly suspicious along with the fact that not only they don't use the official email address, they also wrote their business name in their personal address ends with any of the major email service provider name after '@'. (13) There is no reason for them to ask for payment if they truly just want to give them away. (14) Even if all is true, why do we have to cover for their VAT and their own mistake of taking so many Italian branded apparels back to Italy. Why not them just ask us to pay for their retirement, education, ... (15) They can just give the extra clothes to the local stores that sell them.

Some of the information we can infer about them and their organization: (1) It is a world wide organization with well established link and way of conducting fraud. (2) They travel and have no fixed place of operation. (3) They are considerably rich to afford all the travel, good clothes and all the money pretty much came from the victims. They only do it for such a long time because it is profitable and many victims might go unreported or unaware. (4) They are not part of the Mafia, as they are afraid of low level local law enforcement authority means they don't have a deep and a widespread connection with them unlike the Mafia type organizations which feeds on corruption. They also did not specifically use violence to achieve their means, it is rather by definition and style, not mafia like. In fact, they seem to be quite afraid of violence. They are more likely to be a international fraud organization originated in Italy. (5) They are mostly Italians with possible Russian and Spanish members. (6) They are quite polite and have above median quality clothes, thus they at least put a lot of effort into it and they have been doing it for years. Thus, it might make catching them hard if they put a lot of thoughts into it and have been doing it for years. (7) They have a stable supply of their goods they use for fraud.

If they are gone, they are gone. If encountered, it is the best to walk away. However, if anybody who have a sense a justice encounter them the next time can offer to show them the direction of the airport/bank by going with their car (if they offer that option) or try to drive it (they do offer that sometimes to act more legit as not familiar of the local traffic) and bring them to the authority. Offered enough evidence, they can be convicted as frauds.

For US victims, it is the best to bring their card or products they give you to the police to identify their fingerprints. If they travel around the world and are foreigners, the US custom would have had already their finger prints taken down before they enter.

Violence will not solve anything, it will only make you guilty and them the victims. Which will not only achieve justice but brings out more injustice.

However, at least they did in a polite and civilized way, nobody is physically harmed. If we say no, they just drive away. They won't go out into fraud if they have a way to make better living, thus giving them the asked money is a charity to them. They are just another tragedy created by the failed economy and welfare system.

We need to start spreading the message to more places and possibly form an association of victims of their scam and try to offer evidence of their crimes around the world as a group to make our voice bigger and give their operation a blow. Their tactics only work when we are not aware of them and they move around to seek out for virgin population they haven't raped yet. Anyone interested in forming a group and fight back together feel free to contact starlyx1050@gmail.com

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: GCumw ()
Date: June 04, 2016 01:57PM

GCumw

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: tad ()
Date: June 07, 2016 10:01PM

Same store in Kirkland Washington.

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Re: Beware - two italian guys in SUV - scam artists (emporio a collezione)
Posted by: Karen ()
Date: June 20, 2016 06:15PM

I'm very disapointte this guy is italian but they got only 180 from me q tonta fui ahhhh..
Please don't truth them they juat want your monery,they really have perdume and waches from china and mire things.
Estos hombres te ofrecen reloj y perfumes dicen cualquier cosa q te convencen y te toman el dinero mucho cuidado porfavor es increible q ese sea su trabajo robar a la gente honesta impotencia lucen muy limpios y elegantes usan ropa de marca y andan en una suv pero no se confien puede ser cualquier carro

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