HomeFairfax General ForumArrest/Ticket SearchWiki newPictures/VideosChatArticlesLinksAbout
Fairfax County General :  Fairfax Underground fairfax underground logo
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: TeacherBro ()
Date: January 13, 2021 12:44PM

County Bros,

It looks like Brabrand has betrayed his staff once again. First it was the lying about virtual learning, and now it's about staff pay. The proposed budget will be the second year in a row with no pay increase (step or cost of living) for teaching staff.

Other districts are finding ways to deliver promised step increases, but one of the wealthiest counties in the US is failing to deliver once again. Some jurisdictions are even giving the step increase (but not the pay) so when normal budgets resume, teachers are at the correct experience level. Fairfax and FCPS have done none of that.

There was already a walkout regarding teacher pay in 2019. If Fairfax approves the budget as it is, there will be massive and lengthy walk-outs. Before the strike, it is likely there will be a "work to contract agreement." This is where teachers only work during their contract hours. No work will be completed outside of those hours (lesson planning, grading, etc.)

Fairfax will be in the news again after the administration's embarrassing virtual learning rollout. How many times does FCPS have to be shamed for doing the wrong thing before it does the right thing? Hopefully President Elect Biden will be able to put an emphasis back on education at the federal level.

You should reach out to your school board member and tell them to support the people who have done such a good job of supporting our students.

Do the right thing, bros.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Tax and Spend Dopes ()
Date: January 13, 2021 02:24PM

Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a worthless, 1 million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has no purpose other than to let rich people turn left out of their shitty, 70's looking housing development.

Projects like this are the reason teachers aren't getting a pay raise.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Strike=Reform Opportunity ()
Date: January 13, 2021 03:21PM

The roundabout is your transportation tax dollars at work. Even though it still comes from the pockets of Fairfax County taxpayers it does not come from the same pot as the funds used to pay for schools.

The question for the OP is after having been paid in the spring of 2020 for doing hardly any work and after having been paid for sloppy performance (not entirely the teacher's fault, although teacher insistence on virtual learning and on maximum employment of teachers played a roll) for the 2020-2021 school year, aren't you just a little ashamed to be asking Fairfax County taxpayers to cough up more money. Remember our current residential real estate tax rates are among the highest in the state.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: brabrand ()
Date: January 13, 2021 04:02PM

Of course, YOUR FCPS superintendent just bargained for a nice big pay raise and a new contract from your Democratic school board. What hypocrisy! He will take care of himself and his $100,000+ club members. All day - every day. the low level paid employees can't even live in Farifax County. They have to travel from Prince William and Fauquier County. The so called leadership of FCPS should be ashamed of how they enrich themselves while others are constantly shortchanged.

FCPS 100K+ CLUB
Posted by: FCPSNEWS ()
Date: December 10, 2020 04:38PM

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/3533479.html

Brabrand, Scott S 311526 Division Superintendent
Ivey, Frances W 224447 Deputy Superintendent
Burden, Edwina L 219168 Assistant Superintendent, Financial Services
Platenberg, Jeffrey K 210658 Assistant Superintendent, Facilities & Transport Services
Smith, Marty K 206154 Chief Operating Officer
Foster, John E 202478 Division Counsel
Nixon, Helen A 202478 Assistant Superintendent, Human Resources
Ko, Yee Chung 198507 Auditor General
Presidio, Sloan J 194615 Assistant Superintendent, Instructional Services
Zuluaga, Fabio E 190799 Assistant Superintendent, Region
Martinez, Eliazer 190454 Executive Director & Chief Investment Officer, ERFC
Tyson, Douglas A 187058 Assistant Superintendent, Region
Baenig, Rebecca G 183390 Assistant Superintendent, Region
King, Nardos E 183390 Assistant Superintendent, Region
Pearson, Jay W 183390 Assistant Superintendent, Region
Johnson, Teresa L 179794 Assistant Superintendent, Special Services
Carlson, Grady K 169507 Assistant Division Counsel
Greenfelder, Mark G 169507 Executive Director II, School Support
Smith, Daniel W Jr. 169507 Principal, Secondary School
Bonitatibus, Ann N 167002 Principal, High School
DeRose, Shawn P 167002 Principal, High School
Eck, Maria V 167002 Principal, High School
Thompson, Joseph R 167002 Principal, Adult Alternative High School
Rogers, Jovon F 165349 Principal, High School
Gros, Penny M 164522 Executive Principal
Jagels, David E 164522 Executive Principal
McCann, Eric G 164522 Executive Principal
Menuey, Brendan P 164522 Executive Principal
Taylor, Grace E 164522 Executive Principal
Brumfield, Pamela E 163712 Principal, High School
Floyd, Carlyn E 163712 Principal, High School
Hood, Gregory 163712 Principal, High School
Larrick, Christopher S 163712 Principal, Adult Alternative High School
Mukai, Michael G 163712 Principal, High School
Poole, Scott F 163712 Principal, High School
Lonnett, Raymond 162893 Executive Principal
Reddel, Lisa M 162893 Executive Principal
Torre, John J 162893 Executive Director II, Communication & Community Relations
Lenart, Erin B 162091 Principal, High School
Litz, Jeffrey D 162091 Principal, High School
Retzer, Kimberly B 162091 Principal, High School
Goldfarb, David M 160486 Special Projects Administrator, Human Resources
Lehman, Chad R 160486 Principal, High School
Reilly, Ellen T 160486 Principal, High School
Edmunds-Heard, Terri L 159699 Executive Principal
Grimm, Martin E 159699 Principal, Secondary School
Petrich, Evangeline R 159699 Executive Principal
Phillips, Tracey L 159699 Principal, Secondary School
Walts, Kathleen S 159699 Executive Dir II, Professional Learning & Family Engagement
Erbrecht, Adam W 155651 Principal, MS
Herring, Craig A 155651 Principal, MS
Miller, Charles M 155651 Principal, MS
Nocco, James D 155651 Director III, Professional Growth & Career Development
Peri, Armando L Jr. 155651 Ombudsman
Greer, Kimberly P 154254 Principal, High School
Millard, Tanganyika H 154254 Principal, High School
Morris, Gary M 154254 Principal, High School
Smith, Alfonso G 154254 Principal, High School
Bloom, Michael S 154110 Director III, Special Education
Goodloe, Amy T 152584 Principal, MS
Klena, Justine K 152584 Principal, MS
Miller, Amy H 152584 Principal, MS
Smith, Ann M 152584 Principal, Special Education School
Smith, Leona M 152584 Director III, Equity & Family Engagement
Nowak, Benjamin A 151229 Principal, High School
Carroll, Catherine 151074 Director III, Equity & Employee Relations
Holleb, Aimee J 151074 Principal, MS
Klimenko, Noel C 151074 Director III, PreK-12 Curriculum & Instruction
Kretzer, Sandra A 151074 Director III, Enterprise Information Services
Mitchell, Amielia S 151074 Principal, MS
Monticchio, Aimee L 151074 Principal, MS
Pannutti, Jason M 151074 Principal, MS
Pollio, Richard 151074 Director III, ESOL Services
Scott, Deborah E 151074 Director III, Intervention & Prevention Services
Vandenburg, Thomas J 151074 Director III, IT Operations
Wigington, Alice D 151074 Director III, Budget Services
Yusuf, Shakeel 151074 Comptroller
Bibbee, Mark E 149958 Principal, ES
Coakley, Jennifer R 149958 Principal, ES
Consolla, Jean T 149958 Principal, ES
Contreras, Eleanor M 149958 Principal, ES
Cope, Emily S 149958 Principal, ES
Cunningham, Michael R 149958 Principal, ES
Fee, David M 149958 Principal, ES
Fernandez, Jan-Marie S 149958 Principal, ES
Hendrick, Dawn M 149958 Principal, ES
Jackson-Muir, Keesha N 149958 Principal, ES
Lin, Dorothy N 149958 Principal, ES
Miller, Renee C 149958 Principal, ES
Pilson, Lisa M 149958 Principal, ES
Quinn, James T Jr. 149958 Principal, ES
Slayter, Timothy H 149958 Principal, ES
Wassenberg, Tonya F 149958 Principal, ES
Willison, Kimberly S 149958 Principal, ES
Burke, Maura D 149578 Director III, Early Childhood Curriculum & Grant Management
Hawley Brown, Deborah L 149578 Director III, Benefits & Compensation
Jewell, Tracey D 149578 Director III, IT Support Services
McDonald, Sean P 149578 Director III, Talent Acquisition & Management
Scanlan, Dana M 149578 Administrative Hearing Officer
Skurpski, Lea M 149578 Director III, Data Mgmt, Student Svcs & Strategic Planning
Stokes, Gordon K 149578 Principal, MS
Strayhorn, Deborah A 149578 Principal, Special Education School
Weatherman, Theresa M 149578 Deputy Auditor General
Aldredge, Sharon D 148473 Principal, ES
Andujar, Susan E 147003 Principal, ES
Aste, Mahri 147003 Principal, ES
Bickel, Lonnie T 147003 Principal, Vocational Special Education Center
Boland, Maureen 147003 Principal, ES
Brotemarkle, Gregory J 147003 Principal, ES
Bumbrey, Elizabeth R 147003 Principal, ES
Calvert, Elizabeth M 147003 Principal, ES
Choate, Cynthia F 147003 Principal, ES
Dade, Merrell V 147003 Principal, ES
Damato, Robert J 147003 Principal, ES
Daugherty, Karim D 147003 Principal, ES
DeVore, Holly E 147003 Principal, ES
Edwards-Dalton, Janice B 147003 Principal, ES
Elson, Samuel L 147003 Principal, ES
Fennessy, Teresa L 147003 Principal, ES
Ferguson, Linda A 147003 Principal, ES
Flaherty, Aileen K 147003 Principal, ES
Forgy, Rebecca L 147003 Principal, ES
Granieri, Mark T 147003 Principal, ES
Iyer, Kanchana K 147003 Principal, ES
Johnson, Eric T 147003 Principal, ES
Kraft, Jesse 147003 Principal, ES
Kuntz, Thomas P 147003 Principal, ES
Lemmon, Marie M 147003 Principal, ES
Mackin, Melaney J 147003 Principal, ES
Macrina, Michael G 147003 Principal, ES
McRae, Chad G 147003 Principal, ES
Moose, Brian K 147003 Principal, ES
Padmore, Wiatta T 147003 Principal, ES
Quigley, Kathleen P 147003 Principal, ES
Salata, Roxanne 147003 Principal, ES
Sheehy, Lauren E 147003 Principal, ES
Sheers, Kelly L 147003 Principal, ES
Swoger, James F 147003 Principal, ES
Tam, Mary H 147003 Principal, ES
Thompson, Angela M 147003 Principal, ES
Trout, Lindsay 147003 Principal, ES
Tuttle, Karen M 147003 Principal, ES
Vanderhye, Cecilia 147003 Principal, ES
West, Kevin M 147003 Principal, ES
Barker, Darwin R 146645 Principal, MS
Barnes, Margaret F 146645 Principal, MS
Furby, Francine F 146645 Director III, Transportation Services
Lundy, Thomas P 146645 Principal, Special Education School
Wright, Dustin P 146645 Principal, MS
Cage, April L 145547 Principal, ES
Carmichael, John D 145547 Principal, ES
Chianetta, Jamey E 145547 Principal, ES
Clayton, Charles E 145547 Principal, Vocational Special Education Center
Gidoni, Rebecca E 145547 Principal, ES
Kelley, Christine G 145547 Principal, ES
Makrigiorgos, Michelle G 145547 Principal, ES
Mohr, Monica E 145547 Principal, ES
Peterson, LaRonda A 145547 Principal, ES
Phillips, Danny R 145547 Principal, ES
Usher, Felicia C 145547 Principal, ES
Aspuria, Erika L 144106 Principal, ES
Cachine, Katherine H 144106 Principal, ES
Curran, William G 144106 Director II, Activities & Athletic Programs
Deliee, Charles E 144106 Principal, ES
Devers, Mie O 144106 Principal, ES
Douds, Joshua T 144106 Principal, ES
Drake, Felicia M 144106 Principal, ES
Elliott, Laura C 144106 Principal, ES
Gates, Jonathan M 144106 Principal, ES
Hatcher, Jason P 144106 Director II, Administrative Services
Hertzberg, Jennifer I 144106 Principal, ES
Huffman, Bettrys J 144106 Director II, Assessment & Reporting
Jackson, Joanne M 144106 Principal, ES
Lewis, Jessica R 144106 Principal, ES
Morris, Kevin 144106 Principal, ES
Peerman, Kerry L 144106 Principal, ES
Prindle, Sharyn B 144106 Principal, ES
Sloan, Varonica D 144106 Principal, ES
Smith, Christopher M 144106 Principal, ES
Stewart, Jill D 144106 Principal, ES
Vaccarello, Tom J 144106 Director II, Safety & Security
Williams, Karin A 144106 Director II, Operations & Strategic Planning
Wolfe, Shane A 144106 Principal, ES
Copeland, Anthony E 143946 Principal, High School
Noto, Elizabeth A 143946 Principal, High School
Barrow, Lisa B 143770 Principal, MS
Draeger, Michael S 143770 Director III, HR Business Services
Eaton, Wendy L 143770 Principal, MS
Glaser, Jennifer T 143770 Director III, Counseling & College & Career Readiness
Harris, Anthony P 143770 Principal, MS
Kownacki, Peter A 143770 Principal, MS
Kennedy, Ellen D 141849 Assistant Division Counsel
Murphy, Elizabeth B 141849 Executive Director, FCPS Education Foundation
Blount, Andrew S 141281 Principal, ES
Jankovich, Allison L 141281 Principal, ES
Jerauld, Stephanie A 141281 Director II, School Support 7-12
Kirkpatrick, Stacy 141281 Principal, ES
Pierson, Cherith L 141281 Principal, ES
Russell, Melissa O 141281 Director II, Payroll Management
Saitta, Marguerite 141281 Principal, ES
Van Aalst, Sara M 141281 Principal, ES
Walker, Holly J 141281 Principal, ES
Williams, C E 141281 Principal, ES
Hanna, Tammara M 140950 Principal, MS
Kneale, Marcy G 140950 Director of Operations
Morgan, Michelle 140950 Administrator, Adult High School
Rauch, Brady B 140950 Assistant Director, Design & Construction
Stack, Eleanor P 140950 Coordinator IV, PreK-12 Special Education Instruction
Tranfa, Frank A Jr. 140950 Principal, Special Education School
Wong, Ann N 140950 Associate Principal, Secondary
Xu, Lei 140950 Assistant Comptroller, Accounting

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: seen it on Facebook ()
Date: January 13, 2021 04:18PM

Teachers don't need a raise. Except for all your trips to the beach, think about all the gas money you are saving this year.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Fcps sux ()
Date: January 13, 2021 05:41PM

No soup for you beetch!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Gas man ()
Date: January 13, 2021 07:03PM

seen it on Facebook Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Teachers don't need a raise. Except for all your
> trips to the beach, think about all the gas money
> you are saving this year.


No joke dick. And since I’m no longer locked up in a classroom with your bastard kids I no longer drink. In the classroom.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: amlactin ()
Date: January 13, 2021 08:58PM

Adult Alternative Principal Thompson is a fuckstick with a lesbo kid that works at a local field house. He is running that school under.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: TeacherBro ()
Date: January 14, 2021 05:15PM

Tax and Spend Dopes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a worthless, 1
> million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has no
> purpose other than to let rich people turn left
> out of their shitty, 70's looking housing
> development.
>
> Projects like this are the reason teachers aren't
> getting a pay raise.

This is true. Fairfax has continually misappropriated resources to the most privileged areas. Many teachers cannot even afford to live in Fairfax county. There needs to be a serious change in priorities for our children and education.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: real EsTate ()
Date: January 14, 2021 08:57PM

TeacherBro Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tax and Spend Dopes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a worthless,
> 1
> > million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has no
> > purpose other than to let rich people turn left
> > out of their shitty, 70's looking housing
> > development.
> >
> > Projects like this are the reason teachers
> aren't
> > getting a pay raise.
>
> This is true. Fairfax has continually
> misappropriated resources to the most privileged
> areas. Many teachers cannot even afford to live
> in Fairfax county. There needs to be a serious
> change in priorities for our children and
> education.


messed up!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Yes and no ()
Date: January 14, 2021 10:52PM

TeacherBro Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> This is true. Fairfax has continually
> misappropriated resources to the most privileged
> areas. Many teachers cannot even afford to live
> in Fairfax county. There needs to be a serious
> change in priorities for our children and
> education.

There does need to be a change in priorities. It may not however be the change you are hoping for. Individual teachers should not be expecting to be able to acquire a Hunters Mill Rd. home on their own. Still it would be possible for two teachers to find a house to share that they could easily afford to rent.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: What about me? ()
Date: January 15, 2021 12:39AM

TeacherBro Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tax and Spend Dopes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a worthless,
> 1
> > million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has no
> > purpose other than to let rich people turn left
> > out of their shitty, 70's looking housing
> > development.
> >
> > Projects like this are the reason teachers
> aren't
> > getting a pay raise.
>
> This is true. Fairfax has continually
> misappropriated resources to the most privileged
> areas. Many teachers cannot even afford to live
> in Fairfax county. There needs to be a serious
> change in priorities for our children and
> education.

That doesn’t sound equitable.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: parentbro ()
Date: January 15, 2021 06:48PM

What about me? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> TeacherBro Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tax and Spend Dopes Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a
> worthless,
> > 1
> > > million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has
> no
> > > purpose other than to let rich people turn
> left
> > > out of their shitty, 70's looking housing
> > > development.
> > >
> > > Projects like this are the reason teachers
> > aren't
> > > getting a pay raise.
> >
> > This is true. Fairfax has continually
> > misappropriated resources to the most
> privileged
> > areas. Many teachers cannot even afford to
> live
> > in Fairfax county. There needs to be a serious
> > change in priorities for our children and
> > education.
>
> That doesn’t sound equitable.

Many parents support our wonderful teachers and want them treated fairly. #parentsupport

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Brabrand must go ()
Date: January 15, 2021 08:00PM

There are also many parents who are thoroughly exasperated with FCPS, its incompetence since covid hit last spring and the almost cavalier way FCPS brushes off its many failures. So far the anger isn't specifically directed at individual teachers. It would not take much for that to change. Teachers pushing for pay increases would probably be the tipping point. Remember that parents are paying for it too, and the overwhelming feeling is that they are not getting their money's worth.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Value engineering ()
Date: January 16, 2021 11:33AM

Tax and Spend Dopes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Drive down Hunter Mill Road to see a worthless, 1
> million dollar traffic round-a-bout that has no
> purpose other than to let rich people turn left
> out of their shitty, 70's looking housing
> development.
>
> Projects like this are the reason teachers aren't
> getting a pay raise.

Using roundabouts instead of traffic signals saves the taxpayers quite a bit of money over time. You are going to see plenty more of them. Stop being so ignorant.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: TeacherBro ()
Date: January 16, 2021 12:14PM

Brabrand must go Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There are also many parents who are thoroughly
> exasperated with FCPS, its incompetence since
> covid hit last spring and the almost cavalier way
> FCPS brushes off its many failures. So far the
> anger isn't specifically directed at individual
> teachers. It would not take much for that to
> change. Teachers pushing for pay increases would
> probably be the tipping point. Remember that
> parents are paying for it too, and the
> overwhelming feeling is that they are not getting
> their money's worth.

If you have a problem with FCPS leadership and direction, run for school board or choose better candidates. Teachers are the ones who warned Brabrand and Company about the disastrous blackboard rollout- they were ignored.

The teacher step and COLA increase was already in the last budget, it was taken away when this happened. It was put in there to address the low pay compared to surrounding areas. Combine the already lower than average pay with 2 years of no step/COLA increases and there are going to be significant issues in the county.

Other, less wealthy (but better run) counties are meeting their obligations to staff. Even if they don't do a pay increase, they do the step increase (without pay) so that teachers will be payed on experience when normal budgets resume. That is a reasonable compromise.

As I said, many teachers cannot afford to live in the county. If FCPS keeps this up the only teachers you'll have left are the ones with no options, or a rotating staff of new teachers every 3 years after burn out. All the teachers with options will leave so you'll have the leftovers and new teachers who are inexperienced. Staff turnover is already a major problem.

The fact that so many people live in 800K+ houses, but don't think teachers should make a living wage for the county they live in just proves everything about the "MAGA Country" crowd.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Doesn’t matter ()
Date: January 16, 2021 01:31PM

FCPS staff should strike right when this school year ends. We deserve a pay raise!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: FCPSucks ()
Date: January 16, 2021 01:42PM

VA state employees cannot "strike". That will not be an option. This is just payback for last spring when all the teachers were getting their full pay for doing absolutely nothing. The whole online learning was first and disaster, then a joke. Teachers and students did nothing from March on. Fairfax County has to be bleeding money. Not even to mention paying bus drivers now to "practice" their runs. Good luck getting any kind of raise for a long, long time.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: bus driver ()
Date: January 16, 2021 03:15PM

FCPSucks Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> VA state employees cannot "strike". That will not
> be an option. This is just payback for last
> spring when all the teachers were getting their
> full pay for doing absolutely nothing. The whole
> online learning was first and disaster, then a
> joke. Teachers and students did nothing from
> March on. Fairfax County has to be bleeding
> money. Not even to mention paying bus drivers now
> to "practice" their runs. Good luck getting any
> kind of raise for a long, long time.

The buses are suffering from "lot rot" we have to get them out on the roads. The fuel in the tanks is starting to go bad. I am going in 3 days a week and driving 3 or 4 different buses each day. The gps devices are draining the batteries so dead that the batteries are having to be replaced. We have pulled the fuse on the gps on most of them. It is a bad situation.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Dan Knows ()
Date: January 16, 2021 03:51PM

Is this the same Joe Thompson that was the highly successful football coach (Oakton maybe)?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Dan Knows ()
Date: January 16, 2021 03:54PM

Date: January 16, 2021 03:51PM

Is this the same Joe Thompson that was the highly successful football coach (Oakton maybe)?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Dan knows ()
Date: January 16, 2021 03:56PM

Sorry meant post the last two comments under the message about Joe Thompson, above

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: 6ecgy ()
Date: January 16, 2021 05:57PM

TeacherBro Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> The fact that so many people live in 800K+ houses,
> but don't think teachers should make a living wage
> for the county they live in just proves everything
> about the "MAGA Country" crowd.

You are throwing around the jargon, but do you know what it means? Living wage is not what it takes to maintain a comfortable middle class lifestyle for a family of four. It is the wage that it would take to provide for the worker's food, clothing, shelter, medical care, transportation and incidentals, plus leave something for savings. Last time I checked the minimum teacher salary in Fairfax County was $50,000. That would not be enough money to buy a house in Fairfax County, but it is more than enough if two or three teachers go in together for them to rent a single family home.

You will next say teachers should not have to just get by. They should be entitled to live better than that. The median household income in Fairfax County in 2018 was $122,000. That doesn't tell the whole story though. The typical home also has more than one adult earner in it, and in Fairfax County the median age is over 35. So to be achieving median household income status we should be looking at what a typical teacher who has been teaching 10 years is making, and comparing that figure against $61,000, or half the median family income. So what is the percentage of teachers with 10 years of experience at FCPS that are making under $61,000? (Data is from Fairfax County 2019 Demographic study.)

What you want isn't for teachers to make a living wage. It isn't for teachers to live in households that hit the median household income for Fairfax County. What you want is for teachers to live in households where the teacher alone could make enough money so the spouse would not work and the couple with their two children could afford to live in a nice single family residence. A great many people in Fairfax wish they could afford this.

A person living in an $800k home in Fairfax County is paying $9,500 in real estate taxes. It could be more depending on where it is. The median home price in Fairfax County is $600k, so an $800k home isn't really that special. Plus whether the home is worth $300k, $500k or $1M or more it is paying the same minimum real estate tax rate. Jack up the rate on that $800k home and you are making those lower priced homes less affordable.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Meat_FlutePiper ()
Date: January 17, 2021 02:13PM

6ecgy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> TeacherBro Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > The fact that so many people live in 800K+
> houses,
> > but don't think teachers should make a living
> wage
> > for the county they live in just proves
> everything
> > about the "MAGA Country" crowd.
>
> You are throwing around the jargon, but do you
> know what it means? Living wage is not what it
> takes to maintain a comfortable middle class
> lifestyle for a family of four. It is the wage
> that it would take to provide for the worker's
> food, clothing, shelter, medical care,
> transportation and incidentals, plus leave
> something for savings. Last time I checked the
> minimum teacher salary in Fairfax County was
> $50,000. That would not be enough money to buy a
> house in Fairfax County, but it is more than
> enough if two or three teachers go in together for
> them to rent a single family home.
>
> You will next say teachers should not have to just
> get by. They should be entitled to live better
> than that. The median household income in Fairfax
> County in 2018 was $122,000. That doesn't tell
> the whole story though. The typical home also has
> more than one adult earner in it, and in Fairfax
> County the median age is over 35. So to be
> achieving median household income status we should
> be looking at what a typical teacher who has been
> teaching 10 years is making, and comparing that
> figure against $61,000, or half the median family
> income. So what is the percentage of teachers
> with 10 years of experience at FCPS that are
> making under $61,000? (Data is from Fairfax
> County 2019 Demographic study.)
>
> What you want isn't for teachers to make a living
> wage. It isn't for teachers to live in households
> that hit the median household income for Fairfax
> County. What you want is for teachers to live in
> households where the teacher alone could make
> enough money so the spouse would not work and the
> couple with their two children could afford to
> live in a nice single family residence. A great
> many people in Fairfax wish they could afford
> this.
>
> A person living in an $800k home in Fairfax County
> is paying $9,500 in real estate taxes. It could
> be more depending on where it is. The median home
> price in Fairfax County is $600k, so an $800k home
> isn't really that special. Plus whether the home
> is worth $300k, $500k or $1M or more it is paying
> the same minimum real estate tax rate. Jack up
> the rate on that $800k home and you are making
> those lower priced homes less affordable.

Lol look at this Maga hat. "We're giving them barely enough to live on. What are they complaining about?" "They can live 3 to an apartment". Go buy a mypillow to cry in when the cheetoh in chief is escorted off the property. President Biden is going to raise your taxes and give it to people who deserve it.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: 6ecgy ()
Date: January 17, 2021 05:27PM

Nonsensical ignorant insults. You've got nothing.

You'd probably be shocked to find out there are more anti-Trump liberals living in those Oakton McMansions than there are Trump lovers. Hell even most conservatives in this area hate Trump. They know where their money is coming from. The typical Trump lover in Fairfax County has more in common with you. He's stuck in a job that doesn't give him the standard of living that he thinks he's entitled to. They just won't do YOUR job.

Since you took us down this rabbit hole what do you think a new teacher should be paid? What do you think a teacher with 10 years experience should be paid? Bear in mind its a 10 month job with vacation and sick time, and the County contributes to your health and retirement benefits.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: TeacherBro ()
Date: January 18, 2021 12:46PM

6ecgy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nonsensical ignorant insults. You've got
> nothing.
>
> You'd probably be shocked to find out there are
> more anti-Trump liberals living in those Oakton
> McMansions than there are Trump lovers. Hell even
> most conservatives in this area hate Trump. They
> know where their money is coming from. The
> typical Trump lover in Fairfax County has more in
> common with you. He's stuck in a job that doesn't
> give him the standard of living that he thinks
> he's entitled to. They just won't do YOUR job.
>
> Since you took us down this rabbit hole what do
> you think a new teacher should be paid? What do
> you think a teacher with 10 years experience
> should be paid? Bear in mind its a 10 month job
> with vacation and sick time, and the County
> contributes to your health and retirement
> benefits.

Happy MLK day!

1) Teacher pay should be in line with average teacher pay for the region. (it is not)

2) FCPS should honor the salary agreement in place. (This is also not happening. This would be stealing 2 years of experience pay from staff)

If you think either of those things are unreasonable I guess you really are a MAGA supporter. I'm sure you'll have some "alternative facts" to tell us. Or you can blather on about your election conspiracy theories. What does it tell you that the same people who hate teachers are the ones who believe a magic internet person tells them the future? Very sad. Many such cases.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Fairfax County BETRAYS FCPS Teachers again- Strike Imminent
Posted by: Happy MLK Day to you too ()
Date: January 18, 2021 04:07PM

Pay should be in line? Then you might not have seen this article which came from The Patch last February:

"In Northern Virginia, the city of Alexandria ranks second in average teacher salaries — behind Arlington County — at $78,100 per year followed by Fairfax County at $78,000, Falls Church City at $77,000, Loudoun County at $75,800 and Prince William County at $69,500, according to the VDOE report."

"In Virginia, the average annual salary for classroom teachers was $60,265 in the 2019-2020 school year, the Virginia Department of Education says in a new report."

https://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/nova-school-districts-pay-teachers-most-least-2020

So far all you have done is run your mouth. Put up or STFU. Hard numbers from verifiable sources coupled with the impact such pay increases would have on Fairfax County taxpayers is what is demanded from you. When you bitch about how it isn't what you were promised also remember the weak quality of education which YOU and your collegues have been providing isn't what the parents of FCPS children were promised. Teachers providing their services from home isn't what Fairfax County taxpayers were promised. How many FCPS teachers saw their pay cut off when schools shut down? How many teachers were layed off when FCPS decided to go all virtual for the fall of 2020? Do you think you would have been treated this well if you had been in the private sector?

I don't object to paying teachers. I object to paying them more when they are providing less in the way of educational quality. You cannot say it is the system not the teachers when you chose to work in that system and when teachers collectively help mold that system. If that makes me MAGA in your eyes, I can live with that. I only need consider the incredible ignorance that kind of judgment displays.

I hope you enjoyed your day off. I had to work so that my employees could get paid.

Options: ReplyQuote


Your Name: 
Your Email (Optional): 
Subject: 
Attach a file
  • No file can be larger than 75 MB
  • All files together cannot be larger than 300 MB
  • 30 more file(s) can be attached to this message
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
 **    **  **     **        **  **     **  **     ** 
 ***   **  **     **        **   **   **   **     ** 
 ****  **  **     **        **    ** **    **     ** 
 ** ** **  **     **        **     ***     **     ** 
 **  ****  **     **  **    **    ** **     **   **  
 **   ***  **     **  **    **   **   **     ** **   
 **    **   *******    ******   **     **     ***    
This forum powered by Phorum.