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Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: salary reflects value added ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:46PM

Who are these people???


McKinney, Zion B Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $78,915
Rathbun, David G Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $78,915
Angelo, Kevin A Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $77,367
Bunaugh, Tijuana H Attendance Officer Alan Leis Center $75,312
Pendley, Lynn D Attendance Officer Virginia Hills Center $75,312
Finch, Patrick N Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $73,835
Kiser, Marsha W Attendance Officer Alan Leis Center $73,835
Trouton, Grant H Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $73,835
Tran, Khanh Attendance Officer Virginia Hills Center $70,277
Gamble, Lloyd B II Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $66,914
Porter, William E Jr. Attendance Officer Pickett Street Annex I $66,890
Tanks-Gregory, Wanda Attendance Officer Alan Leis Center $65,258

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Does band really matter? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:48PM

Burke, Patrick P Band Director, HS Hayfield Secondary School $93,800
Hall, Melinda M Band Director, HS Woodson High School $91,069
Panoff, Stephen E Band Director, HS Westfield High School $85,879
Rice, Stephen H Band Director, HS West Potomac High School $85,879
Seifried, Scott A Band Director, HS Robinson Secondary School $83,664
May, Kelly D Band Director, HS Lee High School $83,405
Bacz, Richard A Band Director, HS Mount Vernon High School $82,356
Fore, Grayson W Band Director, HS South Lakes High School $81,006
Loft, Andrew E Band Director, HS Robinson Secondary School $81,006
Einuis, Laurence J Jr. Band Director, HS West Springfield High School $76,432
Davenport, John H III Band Director, HS Falls Church High School $72,137
Martin, Douglas B Band Director, HS Langley High School $72,137
Thomas, Brian C Band Director, HS Stuart High School $72,137
Vesilind, Paul J Band Director, HS Marshall High School $72,137
Vanvalkenburg, James G Band Director, HS Oakton High School $71,926
Johnson, Alan P Band Director, HS Fairfax High School $69,780
Luley, Michael C Band Director, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $69,669
Hall, Melissa A Band Director, HS Centreville High School $66,181
Cunningham, Christopher D Band Director, HS Herndon High School $65,620
Schnepper, William J Band Director, HS Westfield High School $65,370
Reeves, Katherine M Band Director, HS Edison High School $64,317
Foreman, Adam W Band Director, HS Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $63,420
Ward, Stephen M Band Director, HS South County High $60,286
Ross, Robert A Band Director, HS Chantilly High School $57,971
Jacoby, Kathleen G Band Director, HS Herndon High School $56,434
Weise, Christopher M Band Director, HS McLean High School $56,434
Hilkert, Adam K Band Director, HS Annandale High School $55,942
Baker, Matthew C Band Director, HS Fairfax High School $54,541
English, Gary D Jr. Band Director, HS South County High $52,050
Singleton, Christopher J Band Director, HS Chantilly High School $50,077
Tucker, James L III Band Director, HS Robinson Secondary School $46,707

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: I want to see more ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:48PM

WOW Where did youget that????

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: whose career is assesed? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:52PM

Posgai, Gary J Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax Ridge $105,554
Crane, Amy M Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax Ridge $98,310
Smith, Lisa R Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax Ridge $95,447
Busic, Danise Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax Ridge $92,436
Allen, Jean M Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax Ridge $77,820

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: worth it??? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:54PM

Perry, Jeffrey G Certified Athletic Trainer Robinson Secondary School $83,701
Zamudio, Alisa J Certified Athletic Trainer West Potomac High School $83,701
Reynolds, John D Certified Athletic Trainer Marshall High School $77,724
Rupp, Paul G Certified Athletic Trainer Oakton High School $77,724
Berg, Korey B Certified Athletic Trainer Stuart High School $73,979
Fickes, Kelly A Certified Athletic Trainer Woodson High School $73,979
Gustman, Brett P Certified Athletic Trainer Fairfax High School $73,979
Murphy, Heather R Certified Athletic Trainer Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $73,979
Reynolds, Daniel L Certified Athletic Trainer Mount Vernon High School $73,979
Sheeron, Meredith B Certified Athletic Trainer Lake Braddock Secondary School $73,979
Tinker, Tamar E Certified Athletic Trainer Hayfield Secondary School $73,979
Wingo, Roslynn G Certified Athletic Trainer Westfield High School $73,979
Hulnick, Kent J Certified Athletic Trainer South Lakes High School $69,732
Rappold, Emily A Certified Athletic Trainer Centreville High School $69,732
Castor, Eric D Certified Athletic Trainer Chantilly High School $67,701
Clark, William T Certified Athletic Trainer South County High $67,701
Thompson, Jonathan S Certified Athletic Trainer Falls Church High School $67,701
Austen, Christopher M Certified Athletic Trainer Annandale High School $61,063
Petruzzi, Lisa T Certified Athletic Trainer Herndon High School $61,063
Tierney, Michael S Certified Athletic Trainer McLean High School $61,063
Soumah, Alsane A Certified Athletic Trainer Madison High School $58,998
Hunter, Jessica K Certified Athletic Trainer Langley High School $56,729
Jenkins, Janine S Certified Athletic Trainer Edison High School $56,729
Miller, Diana G Certified Athletic Trainer Lee High School $56,729
Stanford, Eric K Certified Athletic Trainer West Springfield High School $52,449

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Outrageous! ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:54PM

I guess this is an outrage if you fucked up and didn't go to college and make $15 an hour.

How dare those people get paid a reasonable wage teaching your kids. How dare the school system teach music.

Your kids deserve only the basic operant conditioning rote learning.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: REAL cost of FLES ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:55PM

Barth, Mei-Jean K Chinese Language Teacher, ES Shrevewood Elementary School $83,664
Kearney, Bi Bi B Chinese Language Teacher, ES Wolftrap Elementary School $79,251
Cook, Lynn L Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill Elementary School $59,988
Yuan, Grace Y Chinese Language Teacher, ES Providence Elementary School $54,722
Leung, Pik K Chinese Language Teacher, ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $54,213
Gift, Pu C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Clermont Elementary School $53,262
Pearson, Kuan-Chen Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairview Elementary School $53,262
Su, Ping C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Providence Elementary School $53,262
Uang, Yeong-Tsuey Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak Hill Elementary School $53,262
Coyne, Madeline Y Chinese Language Teacher, ES Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School $52,636
Chin, Hou-Dan Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin Meadows Elementary School $52,374
Chen, Yu Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak Hill Elementary School $45,884
Feng, Jing Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill Elementary School $32,685
Chen, Yuwei Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin Meadows Elementary School $28,778
Chen, Agnes M Chinese Language Teacher, ES Wolftrap Elementary School $25,369
Hung, Beesha Chinese Language Teacher, ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $22,942

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: anyone want to guess? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:57PM

DuPont, Kimberly T Communication Disorders Supervisor Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Forrester, Debora A Communication Disorders Supervisor Virginia Hills Center $110,282

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tell me more ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:58PM

GIVE ME THE LINK

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Still not resenting it ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:59PM

None of these salaries appear to be extremely high.

I suspect you are a "stay at home" parent who believes you can run the school system better.

Go fuck yourself.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: seriously??? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 04:59PM

Climo, Lisa L Cosmetology Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $88,254
White, Wayne P Cosmetology Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $87,535
Holshey, Donna L Cosmetology Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $82,190
Bayati, Soussan Cosmetology Teacher, HS Edison High School $79,641
Baggott, Tanya M Cosmetology Teacher, HS Lee High School $77,172
Scheid, Janet L Cosmetology Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $54,627
Hinton, Vanessa J Cosmetology Teacher, HS Marshall High School $54,626

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FCPS CLOSED ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:00PM

WTF COstmo??/ WHO TEACHES Cosmetology ??

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: school employee947 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:01PM

salary reflects value added Wrote:
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> Who are these people???
>
>
> McKinney, Zion B Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Rathbun, David G Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Angelo, Kevin A Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $77,367
> Bunaugh, Tijuana H Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $75,312
> Pendley, Lynn D Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $75,312
> Finch, Patrick N Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Kiser, Marsha W Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $73,835
> Trouton, Grant H Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Tran, Khanh Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $70,277
> Gamble, Lloyd B II Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,914
> Porter, William E Jr. Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,890
> Tanks-Gregory, Wanda Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $65,258


In the old days they were called truant officers.
Remember that education costs nothing. It pays and pays and pays.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Get a job ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:01PM

"seriously?"

Yes, those are serious salaries for people doing serious jobs.

Get over yourself.

Are you new to this area? Would these be doctor's salaries in your little home town?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: shake and bake class ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:01PM

Doubleday, Leroy C IV Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $88,254
Lombardi, Lorraine E Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $87,535
Devlin, Ciaran D Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Marshall High School $82,190
Walden, Glenn M Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Edison High School $77,172
Gloninger, Christine S Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Annandale High School $70,214
Stowers, Cynthia L Culinary Arts Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $66,047
Payne, Dustin L Culinary Arts Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $48,546

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Wendy2 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:02PM

Give us the Principals salaries and the APs

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: biker ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:04PM

I'm guessing these are the unloaded salary figures. Add in the all the other lifetime benefits and retirement if you really want to be really hocked.

Don't forget what their dear union leaders are pulling down too, and it has nothing to do with education!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Perfectly within salary range ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:07PM

whose career is assesed? Wrote:
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> Posgai, Gary J Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax
> Ridge $105,554
> Crane, Amy M Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax
> Ridge $98,310
> Smith, Lisa R Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax
> Ridge $95,447
> Busic, Danise Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax
> Ridge $92,436
> Allen, Jean M Career Assesment Evaluator Fairfax
> Ridge $77,820


http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Career-Services-Director-Salary-Details-22182-Vienna-VA.aspx


I have to assume you are new to this area and where you are from the highest paid person you met earned $48,000 a year or was hourly.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: food warehouse workers ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:08PM

Matta, George I Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $106,027
Keefer, Charles H Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $103,948
Lamay, Paul F Jr. Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $103,948
Speer, Wesley E Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $102,909
Diapoulis, Lisa A Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $94,172
Hinds, Teresa G Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $91,874
Leppin, Walter E Jr. Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $91,874
Sitney, Lawrence L Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $84,079
Tupy, John D Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $81,235
Girard, Janet E Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $75,834
Perrone, Maria C Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $70,452
Sweeney, Ahn Ei M Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $67,742
Nooniwal, Rahul Food Service Operations Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $62,631

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Joey ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:11PM

food warehouse workers Wrote:
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> Matta, George I Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service
> Center $106,027
> Keefer, Charles H Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service
> Center $103,948
> Lamay, Paul F Jr. Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service
> Center $103,948
> Speer, Wesley E Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service
> Center $102,909
> Diapoulis, Lisa A Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $94,172
>
> Hinds, Teresa G Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $91,874
>
> Leppin, Walter E Jr. Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $91,874
>
> Sitney, Lawrence L Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $84,079
>
> Tupy, John D Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $81,235
>
> Girard, Janet E Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $75,834
>
> Perrone, Maria C Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $70,452
>
> Sweeney, Ahn Ei M Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $67,742
>
> Nooniwal, Rahul Food Service Operations
> Specialist Energy Zone Food Service Center $62,631


How about bus drivers??

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: they are your PAL aftre all ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:11PM

Lipp, Jane A Principal, High School South County High $145,216
Merrell, Mark A Principal, High School Madison High School $142,369
Brumfield, Pamela E Principal, High School Edison High School $138,897
Greenfelder, Mark G Principal, High School West Springfield High School $138,897
Yost, Jeffrey A Principal, High School Woodson High School $138,897
Hardison, Clifford S Principal, High School West Potomac High School $135,508
Banbury, John A Principal, High School Oakton High School $132,204
Glazer, Evan M Principal, High School Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $132,204
Benner, Cathy M Principal, High School Falls Church High School $128,979
Calhoun, Prosperanta B Principal, High School Stuart High School $128,979
Johnson, Teresa L Principal, High School Chantilly High School $128,979
Ragone, Matthew J Principal, High School Langley High School $128,979
Retzer, Kimberly B Principal, High School South Lakes High School $128,979
Goldfarb, David M Principal, High School Fairfax High School $125,834
Pearson, Jay W Principal, High School Marshall High School $125,834
Randazzo, Vincent J Principal, High School Annandale High School $125,834
Reilly, Ellen T Principal, High School McLean High School $125,834
King, Nardos E Principal, High School Mount Vernon High School $122,168
Thomas, Timothy J Principal, High School Westfield High School $122,168
Bates, William L Jr. Principal, High School Herndon High School $118,609
Jeffers, Abe E Principal, High School Lee High School $118,609
Grimm, Martin E Principal, High School Centreville High School $115,156

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Channel 21 crap ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:13PM

Daniels, Glen C Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $90,771
Markrich-Brennan, Sandra J Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $88,558
Fetters, Matthew W Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $82,234
Kivlen, Margaret Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $82,234
Haller, Donald E IV Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $73,420
Noonan-Price, Robin M Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $70,938
Clark, Jeffrey F II Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $68,538
Dumas, Michelle J Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $66,221
Lindesay, Mark A Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $63,982
Leniart, Amy L Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $61,521
Lepp, James A Producer/Director Nancy Sprague Technology Center $54,691

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Underpaid, if you ask me ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:15PM

they are your PAL aftre all Wrote:
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> Lipp, Jane A Principal, High School South County
> High $145,216
> Merrell, Mark A Principal, High School Madison
> High School $142,369
> Brumfield, Pamela E Principal, High School Edison
> High School $138,897
> Greenfelder, Mark G Principal, High School West
> Springfield High School $138,897
> Yost, Jeffrey A Principal, High School Woodson
> High School $138,897
> Hardison, Clifford S Principal, High School West
> Potomac High School $135,508
> Banbury, John A Principal, High School Oakton High
> School $132,204
> Glazer, Evan M Principal, High School Thomas
> Jefferson High School for Science and
> Technology $132,204
> Benner, Cathy M Principal, High School Falls
> Church High School $128,979
> Calhoun, Prosperanta B Principal, High
> School Stuart High School $128,979
> Johnson, Teresa L Principal, High School Chantilly
> High School $128,979
> Ragone, Matthew J Principal, High School Langley
> High School $128,979
> Retzer, Kimberly B Principal, High School South
> Lakes High School $128,979
> Goldfarb, David M Principal, High School Fairfax
> High School $125,834
> Pearson, Jay W Principal, High School Marshall
> High School $125,834
> Randazzo, Vincent J Principal, High
> School Annandale High School $125,834
> Reilly, Ellen T Principal, High School McLean High
> School $125,834
> King, Nardos E Principal, High School Mount Vernon
> High School $122,168
> Thomas, Timothy J Principal, High School Westfield
> High School $122,168
> Bates, William L Jr. Principal, High
> School Herndon High School $118,609
> Jeffers, Abe E Principal, High School Lee High
> School $118,609
> Grimm, Martin E Principal, High School Centreville
> High School $115,156


Wow. I didn't realize they were so underpaid. Especially considering they have to deal with children of self-righteous entitled douchebags like you.

Let's see, if you were at the same point in your career as these principals, and you weren't making between $150 - 200k your friends would laugh at you.

Do your friends laugh at you? If you think these salaries are "outlandish" you obviously don't make as much.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: got me ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:15PM

Ruelas, Neftali R Jr. Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Mount Vernon High School $80,098
Edwards, Donna J Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Robinson Secondary School $77,790
Whitworth, Kathryn H Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Lee High School $75,140
Basnight, Linda R Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher South County High $69,252
Kyle, Frederick M Jr. Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher South Lakes High School $66,602
Bouzaher, Saida Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Cedar Lane School $65,371
Davis, Angela Y Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Edison High School $63,520
Reaman, Jeffrey J Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Madison High School $61,702
Fantone, Margaret R Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Westfield High School $60,869
Bridgeman, Denise S Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Poe Middle School $59,988
Lentine, Nancy L Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Centreville High School $58,779
Labbe, Jennifer L Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Marshall High School $58,302
Johnson, Jennifer S Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Edison High School $56,720
Seabrook, Donna B Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Annandale High School $53,262
Pedersen, George N Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Burke School $51,957
Makrigiorgos, Amy Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Oakton High School $46,290
Owens, Luke Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Sandburg Middle School $45,884
Hobbs, Michelle E Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Quander Road School $45,161
Bishop, Katelyn A Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Herndon High School $33,843
Arens, Michael J Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Thoreau Middle School $16,853
Scott, Rodney W Work Awareness & Transition, Teacher Stone Middle School $15,448

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: where did u get the info ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:18PM

I want to know how much my teachers make they work at mount vernon high school they are
Ms.Favier
Ms.Carmon
Mr.Senson,
Mr.Shoemake
Ms.Nelson
Ms.Costa,

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: underpaid by a mile ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:18PM

Roudebush, Deborah M Physics Teacher, HS Oakton High School $94,340
Dewey, George T III Physics Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $92,507
Collins, Douglas M Physics Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $91,041
Forbes, Duncan F Physics Teacher, HS Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $88,254
Mika, Andrew J Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $88,125
Brown, Steve A Physics Teacher, HS Herndon High School $87,487
Irelan, Robert W Physics Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $87,487
McLaren, John D Physics Teacher, HS Centreville High School $87,487
Thomson, Matthew J Physics Teacher, HS Stuart High School $86,399
Halada, Richard S Physics Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $84,939
Scholla, Stephen R Physics Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $83,941
Hincher, William D Physics Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $83,306
Howarth, Dean E Physics Teacher, HS McLean High School $81,808
Bright, Thomas B Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Madison High School $81,357
Lyndon, Christopher R Physics Teacher, HS Westfield High School $81,357
Tripp, David B Physics Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $80,098
Shook, Gretchen G Physics Teacher, HS Westfield High School $79,251
Doneva, Neda D Physics Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $77,791
Culbertson, Robert H Physics Teacher, HS Langley High School $75,554
Fowler, Lewis S Physics Teacher, HS South County High $75,554
Romeo, Martin Physics Teacher, HS Madison High School $75,554
Syed, Mahmud Physics Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $75,140
Pratuch, Thomas G Physics Teacher, HS McLean High School $74,847
Terry, Shari D Physics Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $73,387
Smith, Albert Physics Teacher, HS Madison High School $72,818
Rezendes, Stephen R Physics Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $72,748
Nickle, James E Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $72,123
Wise, James P Physics Teacher, HS South County High $72,123
Alba, Carmelo B Physics Teacher, HS Annandale High School $71,288
Mahoney, Jill D Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $71,288
Peterson, Peter T Physics Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $71,288
Bird, Christopher W Physics Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $70,736
Rugari, Anthony D Physics Teacher, HS Edison High School $70,736
Hannum, Mark S Physics Teacher, HS Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $69,947
Shapiro, Avi J Physics Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $69,253
Mehta, Hasmukh Physics Teacher, HS South County High $69,217
Fehr, Joseph J Physics Teacher, HS Centreville High School $66,832
Booker, Melissa C Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $64,980
Donnelly, Andrew S Physics Teacher, HS Westfield High School $63,527
Brocketti, Jeffrey M Physics Teacher, HS McLean High School $63,520
Jones, Jeffrey R Physics Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $63,520
Lawther, Julia L Physics Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $63,520
Garrison, Jason E Physics Teacher, HS Centreville High School $61,726
Matalavage, Patrick P Physics Teacher, HS Stuart High School $61,614
Davis, Joseph C Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Westfield High School $60,286
McDaniel, Christine A Physics Teacher, HS Edison High School $59,988
Sabatier, Charles H Physics Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $59,988
Youmans, Russell C Physics Teacher, HS Annandale High School $59,988
Rodeheaver, Martha Y Physics Teacher, HS Woodson High School $59,764
Smith, Adam C Physics Teacher, HS Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $59,409
Fantino, Dulce C Physics Teacher, HS Herndon High School $59,075
Hubbard, Garrett S Physics Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $58,303
McClintic, William A Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Westfield High School $58,303
Najolia, Dorothy A Physics Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $58,303
Rothfleisch, Peter Physics Teacher, HS Oakton High School $58,303
Grabowski, Anthony J Physics Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $56,742
Edwards, Thomas R Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Woodson High School $56,720
Ence, Joshua K Physics Teacher, HS Herndon High School $56,720
Foley, Robert M Physics Teacher, HS Langley High School $56,720
Humphrey, Clyde L Jr. Physics Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $56,720
Leahy, William D Physics Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $56,720
Kahn, Janet L Physics Teacher, HS Marshall High School $55,674
Marsh, Ryan E Physics Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $55,674
Theodore, Nimel D Physics Teacher, HS Marshall High School $55,522
Cohen, Eric M Physics Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $55,281
Dewo, Abera M Physics Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $55,281
Jones, Kevin D Physics Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $55,281
Keay, William J Physics Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $55,281
Grosicki, Gary J Physics Teacher, HS Woodson High School $54,213
McQuiston, Andrew C Physics Teacher, HS Edison High School $54,213
Myers, William O Physics Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $54,213
Babcock, Ellen M Physics Teacher, HS Woodson High School $53,262
Chorman, Thomas C Physics Teacher, HS Annandale High School $53,262
Ell, Sarah L Physics Teacher, HS Langley High School $53,262
Reiter, Gregory M Physics Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $53,262
Scheidler, Krysten L Physics Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $53,262
Tyndall, David P Physics Teacher, HS Annandale High School $53,011
Feick, Thomas W Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $52,374
Pachla, Kristofer Physics Teacher, HS Madison High School $52,374
DiMicco, Gregory T Physics Teacher, HS Marshall High School $51,550
Stone, Scott N Physics Teacher, HS Langley High School $51,550
Usry, Thomas E Physics Teacher, HS Herndon High School $51,550
Sendgikoski, Nathan A Physics Teacher, HS McLean High School $50,739
Azzam, Samir D Physics Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $49,614
Gillis, Jared J Physics Teacher, HS Stuart High School $48,546
Eggart, Lisa M Physics Teacher, HS Lee High School $47,594
Davies, Brooke E Physics Teacher, HS Oakton High School $46,290
Fisher, Evan D Physics Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $46,290
Moore, Heather J Physics Teacher, HS Lee High School $46,290
Fenton, Robert W Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $39,635
Howard, Matthew A Jr. Physics Teacher, HS Langley High School $29,615

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: kickball supervisors ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:21PM

Collins, Cynthia M Physical Education Teacher, ES Franconia Elementary School $92,507
Knitter, Brenda J Physical Education Teacher, ES Gunston Elementary School $92,507
Kotovsky, Sharon M Physical Education Teacher, ES Hybla Valley Elementary School $90,569
Benson, Gregory S Physical Education Teacher, ES Cameron Elementary School $89,824
Jones, Juliette C Physical Education Teacher, ES Rose Hill Elementary School $89,127
Weaver, Timothy A Physical Education Teacher, ES Clearview Elementary School $89,127
Krenzberger, Dorothy A Physical Education Teacher, ES Haycock Elementary School $88,936
Johnson, Destephanie C Physical Education Teacher, ES Annandale Terrace Elementary School $87,487
Garlick, George P Physical Education Teacher, ES Colvin Run Elementary School $86,458
Stehlin, James Physical Education Teacher, ES Cameron Elementary School $86,458
Howe, Peter B Physical Education Teacher, ES Westlawn Elementary School $86,399
Straits, Sue A Physical Education Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $86,046
Dsa, Ellen Z Physical Education Teacher, ES Colin Powell Elementary School $84,939
Feldman, Barry S Physical Education Teacher, ES Waples Mill Elementary School $84,939
Platt, Deanne M Physical Education Teacher, ES Crossfield Elementary School $84,939
Roche, Kathleen A Physical Education Teacher, ES Ravensworth Elementary School $84,939
Timberlake, Anne F Physical Education Teacher, ES Canterbury Woods Elementary School $84,939
Bragg, Stanford L Physical Education Teacher, ES Keene Mill Elementary School $84,825
Grant, Darrell E Physical Education Teacher, ES Hunters Woods Elementary School for the Arts and Sciences $84,825
Walker, Doris Physical Education Teacher, ES Hybla Valley Elementary School $84,825
Brady, William P Jr. Physical Education Teacher, ES Laurel Hill Elementary School $83,664
Cooper, Michael C Physical Education Teacher, ES Flint Hill Elementary School $83,306
Mirabile, Chris M Physical Education Teacher, ES Providence Elementary School $83,306
Taguding, Valentino R Physical Education Teacher, ES Island Creek Elementary School $83,306
Woods, Sandra L Physical Education Teacher, ES Kings Glen Elementary School $83,306
Eisman, Ellen P Physical Education Teacher, ES White Oaks Elementary School $82,481
Minutoli, Michael G Physical Education Teacher, ES Spring Hill Elementary School $82,481
O'Neal, Heather L Physical Education Teacher, ES Floris Elementary School $82,481
Tuebner, Judith Physical Education Teacher, ES Sangster Elementary School $82,481
Waybright, Clint A Physical Education Teacher, ES Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School $82,481

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: they teach teachers how to teach ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:26PM

Unser, Carolyn M Instructional Coach Dranesville Elementary School $100,153
Lekoski, Lori Instructional Coach Whitman Middle School $99,938
Ratzlaff, Janet M Instructional Coach Twain Middle School $98,310
Reisman, Kathryn L Instructional Coach Hollin Meadows Elementary School $92,685
Ritchie, Gail V Instructional Coach Centre Ridge Elementary School $91,421
Cable, Linda M Instructional Coach Glasgow Middle School $90,007
Wong, Ann N Instructional Coach West Springfield High School $90,007
Bruno, Danielle M Instructional Coach Bull Run Elementary School $89,056
Robinson, Kristen H Instructional Coach Beech Tree Elementary School $89,056
Baskette Tierney, Jennifer L Instructional Coach Braddock Elementary School $87,415
Brand, Judith S Instructional Coach Rose Hill Elementary School $87,415
Iaquinta Springer, Karri R Instructional Coach Holmes Middle School $87,415
Krajack, Michael J Instructional Coach Terraset Elementary School $87,415
O'Brien, Irene M Instructional Coach Woodley Hills Elementary School $84,901
Crismon, Anne K Instructional Coach Herndon Middle School $84,107
Harvey, Darnessia Y Instructional Coach Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School $82,466
Parker-McElroy, Emelie M Instructional Coach Camelot Elementary School $82,466
Moore, Michelle C Instructional Coach Lake Anne Elementary School $81,748
Allen, Laura S Instructional Coach Crestwood Elementary School $80,107
Hibner, Patricia J Instructional Coach Cunningham Park Elementary School $80,107
Johnson, Michele Instructional Coach Lanier Middle School $79,461
Millians, Emily E Instructional Coach West Potomac High School $79,461
Beard, Michele Instructional Coach Hughes Middle School $75,605
Foglio, Cynthia L Instructional Coach Brookfield Elementary School $75,605
Hicks, Melissa A Instructional Coach Liberty Middle School $75,605
Smoyer, Patricia A Instructional Coach Woodburn Elementary School for the Fine and Communicative Arts $75,605
Carey, Kari L Instructional Coach Herndon Elementary School $73,458
Hanson, Raegan N Instructional Coach Columbia Elementary School $73,458
Jerauld, Stephanie A Instructional Coach Sandburg Middle School $73,458
Joyner, Amy E Instructional Coach Luther Jackson Middle School $73,458
Tisnado, Melissa Instructional Coach Forestdale Elementary School $73,458
Toner, Sarah E Instructional Coach Poe Middle School $73,458
Shroyer, Jessica A Instructional Coach Marshall Road Elementary School $73,019
Davenport, Donice J Instructional Coach Herndon Middle School $71,378
Garcia, Dana E Instructional Coach Coates Elementary School $71,378

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Still haven't seen outlandish ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:28PM

I still haven't seen an "outlandish" salary.

Go back to your red state where $48k is the high salary, we don't need you whiny bitches around here.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: NOT right ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:29PM

how about those good old Liberians..

They don't do shit and earn so much

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz, ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:32PM

something the liberal media doesn't want us to know

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: more FLES crap ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:34PM

Kessler, Gertrude German Language Teacher, ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $90,569
Jones, Donna M German Language Teacher, ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $79,251
Klerner-Eckenrode, Eva E German Language Teacher, ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $69,253
Schonberger, Robert S German Language Teacher, ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $69,253
Glaser, Annette S German Language Teacher, ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $52,374

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: make it a club instead ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:35PM

Dwyer, Annie-Paule S French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $82,481
Romain, Jean-Michel French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $80,098
Samaha, Mona S French Language Teacher, ES Herndon Elementary School $77,791
Moreau, Carola G French Language Teacher, ES Herndon Elementary School $71,288
Ptasienski, Alexandra J French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $69,253
Naux McVicker, Sylvie C French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $59,988
Brottet-Eriksen, Francoise French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $56,720
Otterson, Dominique F French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $55,818
Myers, Geeta R French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $54,213
Dean, Joshua M French Language Teacher, ES Herndon Elementary School $51,957
Casserino, Lauren A French Language Teacher, ES Kent Gardens Elementary School $48,546
Agnant, Nathalie C French Language Teacher, ES Herndon Elementary School $45,161
Kelly, Megan C French Language Teacher, ES Herndon Elementary School $45,161

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: $90k vs $16k-difference? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:40PM

Bryant has just 340 kids....how many take this class???



Mahoney, Mary Ann Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $90,569
Rockymore, Janet E Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $78,524
Card, Beverly M Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $76,813
Bergan, Ava K Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $67,720
Griffin, Robin K Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Annandale High School $67,282
Esslinger, Kathryn W Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Annandale High School $65,620
DeBruler, Ritchie K Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $65,371
Brown, Glynis L Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $63,585
Sullivan, Heather L Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $63,520
Dresser, Jacquelyn L Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Herndon High School $62,516
Barker, Deborah Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $61,901
Rice, Sandra J Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $58,303
McCullen, Judy T Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $57,852
Soos, Sherrie C Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Lee High School $56,720
Peterson, Tiffany F Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $55,281
Hoyt, Linda Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Woodson High School $54,320
Ingram, Clare K Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $54,213
Prassa, Thomas A Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $54,213
VanPelt, Rachel K Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Madison High School $54,213
McNaughton, Megan D Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $53,262
Ransom, Regina A Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $52,374
Johnson, Mattea D Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $51,957
Folmsbee, Chelsea R Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $49,530
Porter, Deborah B Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $46,290
Clouse, Sarah A Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Lee High School $45,884
Gore, Linda C Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS McLean High School $45,884
Long, David J Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS South County High $45,161
Ward, Megan A Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $45,160
Long, Angeline B Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS South County High $23,797
Harrison, Jamie A Family & Consumer Science Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $15,849

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz, ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:41PM

I am shallshocked. did you know they also have arabic????? AND THEY EARN ABOUT $90,000 DOLLARS. WTF FIRE THEM WE NEED TO SAVE MONEY AND LOWER OUR TAXES

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: County Taxpayer ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:42PM

In addition to the "lifetime" benefits that these people enjoy, please don't forget that many of these employees are being paid for a mere 9 months of work per year.

$110,000 for 9 months of work isn't too shabby, considering you'd have to make $146,000 in a "real" job to earn as much.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: part timers ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:43PM

Pretty sweet money for a 9 1/2 months work (teachers anyway)

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: County Taxpayer ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:44PM

$90,000 at 9 months = $120,000 for anyone else. Besides which, what do they actually teach in FCPS, other than sex and drugs? ;)

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: why? nobody ever gets fired ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:44PM

Koves, Donna M Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $106,027
Bojtos, Marcela I Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Fagan, Nell B Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Byrd, John V Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $86,602
Fitzgerald, Cindy S Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $84,079

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: comparison for 12 months work ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:45PM

Here’s an overview of physicians’ compensation in 2011:

Radiology: $315,000
Orthopedics: $315,000
Cardiology: $314,000
Plastic surgery: $270,000
General surgery: $265,000
Obstetrics/Gynecology: $220,000
Psychiatry: $170,000
Pediatrics: $156,000

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: County Taxpayer ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:46PM

Employee Performance Assessment Specialists. That's cute!

Outlandish, can you do a good old fashioned sum and tell us how much everyone at the Gatehouse complex is costing us? I'm dying to know what our administrative overhead is over here.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Federal Gov't Workers ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:48PM

I demand that someone publish all Federal government workers' salaries! The percentage of slacker government workers making six figures has grown exponentially in the past 10 years with no improvement in our overall service!

Class warfare is finally here! Everyone is overpaid (except me)!!!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: make it a club ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:49PM

Betzel, Courtney J Dance Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $59,703
Heininge, Andrea M Dance Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $50,926
Girdy, Lisa M Dance Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $23,145

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: former fcps worker ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:49PM

Sr, where did you get the information from? If you don't want the link to go on this website can you email it to me adamtash486@yahoo.com

I will be happy if you do.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: County Taxpayer ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:53PM

Federal salaries, excluding national security-connected agencies: http://php.app.com/fed_employees11/search.php

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: buyer supervisor, buyer and buye ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:53PM

Carlin, Patricia A Buyer Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $99,939
Compton, Charles E Jr. Buyer Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $92,804
Shoram, Ron S Buyer Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $65,129


Dwelley, James R Buyer I/II Sideburn Support Center $80,228
Hughes, Carol J Buyer I/II Energy Zone Food Service Center $74,726
Kropp, Sharon H Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $74,726
Strickland, Diane M Buyer I/II Forte Center $74,726
Lawhorn, Donna F Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $71,837
Callaman, Phyllis B Buyer I/II Forte Center $70,429
Bradley, Gayle A Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $69,731
Watson, Karl J Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $68,710
Bushrod, Micah R Jr. Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $65,399
Martin, Daryl V Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $53,178
Kwashie, Philomina A Buyer I/II Gatehouse Administration Center I $49,653


Wright, Carmen S Buyer Assistant I/II/III Gatehouse Administration Center I $63,827
Hodge, Brenda A Buyer Assistant I/II/III Gatehouse Administration Center I $62,575
Hawkins, Anthony Buyer Assistant I/II/III Alan Leis Center $47,249
Knuth, Linda M Buyer Assistant I/II/III Forte Center $45,651

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Gatehouse six figure club ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:56PM

Dale, Jack D Division Superintendent Gatehouse Administration Center I $312,845
Moniuszko, Richard A Deputy Superintendent Gatehouse Administration Center I $228,499
Tistadt, Dean A Chief Operating Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $221,194
Murphy, Anne M Division Counsel Gatehouse Administration Center I $197,283
Burke, Linda L Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $168,379
Butz, Leslie L Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $161,051
Pajardo, Phyllis C Assistant Superintendent, Human Resources Gatehouse Administration Center I $161,051
Parris, Daniel H II Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $157,123
Ivey, Frances W Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $152,546
Hunter, Barbara M Assistant Superintendent, Communications&Community Outreach Gatehouse Administration Center I $152,546
Quinn, Susan S Assistant Superintendent, Financial Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $152,546
Kacur, James J Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $148,104
Jackson, Deborah R Special Projects Administrator, Teacher Evaluation Gatehouse Administration Center I $145,216
Smith, Marty K Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $143,095
Tyler, Deborah L Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $143,095
Zuluaga, Fabio E Assistant Superintendent, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $143,095
Carlson, Grady K Assistant Division Counsel Gatehouse Administration Center I $135,508
Yusuf, Shakeel Comptroller Gatehouse Administration Center I $134,244
Marinoff, Joseph M Jr. Special Projects Administrator, Teacher Evaluation Gatehouse Administration Center I $131,612
Lentini, Donna H Director II, Operations & Strategic Planning Gatehouse Administration Center I $129,068
Keninitz, Mary E Director II, Payroll Management Gatehouse Administration Center I $129,068
Ellis, Frederick Director II, Safety & Security Gatehouse Administration Center I $129,068
Jett, Paula L Director II, Salary Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $129,068
Ege, Cheryl L Director, Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) Project Gatehouse Administration Center I $129,068
Marchant, Carol A Assistant Division Counsel Gatehouse Administration Center I $128,979
Sneed, Kevin M Director III, Design & Construction Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $128,402
Newman, Samuel E Sr. Director II, Employee Performance & Development Gatehouse Administration Center I $126,537
Crosby, Anthony E Director II, Procurement Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $126,537
Weatherman, Theresa M School Board Auditor Gatehouse Administration Center I $125,270
Zupovitz, Meir J Assistant Comptroller Gatehouse Administration Center I $124,091
Jenkins, Warren D Coordinator IV, Facility Services Customer Service Center Gatehouse Administration Center I $124,091
Dreyfuss, Jane S Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $124,091
Matlock, Judith F Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $124,091
Hilty, Mark T Assistant Director, Design & Construction Gatehouse Administration Center I $124,090
Scanlan, Dana M Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $122,214
Hairston, Bonzetta L Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $121,658
Kreloff, Nancy K Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $121,658
McCann, Eric G Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $121,658
Pender, Lee A Director II, Administrative Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $120,440
Craig, Amy M Coordinator II, Community & Facility Use Gatehouse Administration Center I $119,307
Rogers, Thomas J Coordinator III, Dept. Special Services Financial Management Gatehouse Administration Center I $119,307
Sheikh, Mahmood A Coordinator III, Financial Services Systems & Control Gatehouse Administration Center I $119,307
Chen, Joanne M Coordinator III, Student Registration Gatehouse Administration Center I $119,307
Holleb, Aimee J Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $118,690
Taylor, Anita W Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $118,690
Curran, William G Director II, Activities & Athletic Programs Gatehouse Administration Center I $117,503
James, Denise M Director II, Facilities Services Planning Gatehouse Administration Center I $117,503
Slattery, Kevin M Auditor III Gatehouse Administration Center I $116,968
McLain, James R Coordinator II, Security Gatehouse Administration Center I $116,968
Blanda, Melissa H Coordinator III, Disabilities & Leave Benefits Gatehouse Administration Center I $116,968
Houston, Joseph S Coordinator III, Human Resources FASTeam Gatehouse Administration Center I $116,968
Finnerty, Shawn Coordinator III, Support Employment Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $116,968
Harris, Clara L Project Manager, Student Learning Plan Gatehouse Administration Center I $114,707
Kerr, Stephen P School Investigation Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $114,707
Kellogg, Teresa A Coordinator III, Benefits Insurance Gatehouse Administration Center I $114,115
Gomez, Adrian R Coordinator III, Financial Services FASTeam Gatehouse Administration Center I $114,115
Holbrook, Mark T Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $112,971
Torre, John J Public Information Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $112,971
Love, Amy F Budget Analyst IV Gatehouse Administration Center I $112,458
O'Neill, Douglass T Coordinator II, Safety Gatehouse Administration Center I $111,331
Von Kahle, Anne Marie Budget System Analyst Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,282
Christesen, Kathleen B Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,282
Anderson, James D Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216
New, Michelle A Coordinator IV, Budget Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216
Garant, Jay P Coordinator IV, Business & Community Partnerships Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216
Arrington, Timothy Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216
Goddard, Pamela Executive Assistant, School Board Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216
Almquist, Jon L Athletic Training Programs Administrator Gatehouse Administration Center I $109,715
Rawat, Ajay Coordinator III, Facilities Services Planning Gatehouse Administration Center I $108,616
Malan, Elizabeth A Coordinator III, Financial Support Gatehouse Administration Center I $108,616
Calderwood, Margaret M Administrator, Human Resources (HR) Technology Gatehouse Administration Center I $107,527
Cross, Laura W Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $107,527
Donohue, Christine W Chief of Staff Gatehouse Administration Center I $107,527
Fisher, Donnell Coordinator IV, Instructional Employment Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $107,527
Michael, Kristen K Director III, Budget Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $106,455
Martin, John Electrical Engineer II Gatehouse Administration Center I $106,027
Koves, Donna M Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $106,027
Bochert, James H Coordinator III, Data Management Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,966
Williams, Shelton D Coordinator III, Facilities Services Financial Management Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,966
Campbell, Douglas A Coordinator III, Payroll & Benefits Accounting Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,966
Cordova, Robert W Coordinator III, Property Management Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,966
Anderson, Nurit Equity & Compliance Administrator Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,966
Duggan, Fleur Manager, Construction Projects Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,482
Ours, Thomas A Manager, Construction Projects Gatehouse Administration Center I $105,482
Emery, Mark H After-School Programs Administrator Gatehouse Administration Center I $104,428
Petrich, Evangeline R Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $104,396
Lako, John III Accounting Analyst II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Gambhir, Subhash Architectural Engineer II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Manyfield, Doris W Budget Analyst II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Sarna, Sunny Civil Engineer II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Blake, Richard S Electrical Engineer II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Bojtos, Marcela I Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Fagan, Nell B Employee Performance Assessment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
McCurdy-Pair, Angela Employment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Campbell, David L Jr. Field Construction Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Sessere, Suzanne M Functional Application Specialist II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Enriquez, Dennis L Mechanical Engineer II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Ford, Alice S Recruitment Specialist II Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Wilson, Kenneth T Safety Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,948
Day, Deedre E Administrator, Human Resources (HR) Technology Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,382
Rauch, Brady B Coordinator III, Capital Projects Gatehouse Administration Center I $103,382
Zayas, Jay J Manager, Construction Projects Gatehouse Administration Center I $102,909
Spille, Tina C Manager, Salary Services Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,881
Gustafson, Brooke D Budget Analyst II Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Boivin, Elisabeth L Employment Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Davila, Erick F Functional Application Specialist II Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Wilson, Jacquelyn O Functional Application Specialist II Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Trouton, Lorraine Health Services Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Mantzoros, Thomas G Jr. Planner II Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Campo, Kenneth G Safety Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Modell, Melody R Student Activities Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Bartus, Camille A Wellness Program Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413
Felix, Lisa S Assistant Administrative Hearing Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,355
Molloy, Michael A Director I, Governmental Relations Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,355
Liverman, Paul F Jr. Manager, Roofing Construction Gatehouse Administration Center I $100,400
Draeger, Michael S Coordinator III, Licensure Gatehouse Administration Center I $100,370
Russell, Melissa O Coordinator III, Payroll Administration Gatehouse Administration Center I $100,370
Callahan, Robert G Employee Relations Administrator Gatehouse Administration Center I $100,370

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hung lo ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:00PM

Glad to see that they are teaching Chinese. It will come in very handy when we have to foreclose on the United Shitholes of America.

Chinese speaking Americans will have an advantage when applying for our household staff jobs.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: LOTS of security at The Palace ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:02PM

Penn, Wilbert M School Security Planning Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $63,827
Hook, Ralph T School Security Planning Officer Gatehouse Administration Center I $62,575
Rosenbaum, Anne E Science Specialist Haycock Elementary School $43,631
Cheeks, Wesley Jr. Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Malone, Anthony P Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Butterfield, Robert M Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $57,258
Hunt, John R Jr. Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $53,169
Steinhoff, Jeffrey S Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $53,169
Graham, Patrick L Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $51,621
Stone, Court A Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $51,621
Clark, Damon S Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $50,118
Laucevicius, Carole D Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $50,118
Ross, Michael E Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $47,013
Allen, Michael H Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $45,423
Fuller, Christian B Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $45,423
Dzurilla, James A Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $43,886
Asenso, Atta B Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $40,772
Robinson, Francis J Security Officer - Bi-weekly Gatehouse Administration Center I $36,246
Matusiak, Stephen J Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Zerpa Hersh, Jose R Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Krueger, John L Jr. Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $60,157
Brown, George C Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $54,499
Pugh, James D Jr. Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $54,499
Spoon, Gary D Jr. Security Officer - Monthly Gatehouse Administration Center I $50,118
Morehead, Dean Security Operations Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $64,751
Ball, Gary D Security Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $98,939
Boykin, David Security Supervisor (B) Gatehouse Administration Center I $69,060
Davis, Carroll E Security Supervisor (B) Gatehouse Administration Center I $69,060
Stovall, James L Security Supervisor (B) Gatehouse Administration Center I $56,407
Leavitt, Jason G Security Supervisor (M) Gatehouse Administration Center I $51,123
Stevens, Calvin R Security System Monitor Gatehouse Administration Center I $44,969
Hardesty, Mabel L Security System Monitor Gatehouse Administration Center I $43,449
Allen, Rufus L Jr. Security Systems Specialist Woodson Annex - Instructional Technology $61,512
Hanger, Lawrence A Security Systems Technical Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $67,199
Jenkins, Robin E Security Systems Technical Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $60,904
Parker, Thomas W Security Systems Technical Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $50,543
Guidry, Mark A Security Systems Technical Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $48,599
Chapman, William F Security Two-Way Communication Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $76,773

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Posted by: cost of open borders-part 1 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:05PM

Basden, Gerianne M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $88,936
Ellertson, Rebecca A ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $87,487
Hansard-Stuebner, Martine M ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $87,487
Wiskin, Joel M ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $84,939
Villedrouin, Judith R ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $83,664
Ahmad, Margaret M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $77,791
OMara, Kathleen ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $77,791
Wickham, Thomas J ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $77,791
Ratliff, Michelle ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $75,140
Spiegel, Judith A ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $75,140
Turner, Ellen E ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $73,387
Van Opdorp, Martin J ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $73,387
Anderson, Suzette F ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $71,288
Smyth, Joanne K ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $63,520
Rudder, Alaise E ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $61,726
Young, Rebecca D ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $61,726
Anderson, Loren S ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $61,448
Walton, Susan I ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $59,988
Munday, Kristin A ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $59,075
Haggard, Barbara A ESOL Transitional Teacher Lee High School $58,303
Mulloy, Linda C ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $58,303
Angelo, Ann M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $55,281
Turner Ottke, Tamara ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $55,281
Grossman, Adrienne R ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $54,722
Nguyen, Uyen L ESOL Transitional Teacher Annandale High School $53,262
Cluck, Cynthia M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $53,011
Minton, Joel E ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $52,374
Leonard, Charlotte I ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $51,563
Waterhouse, Megan M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $45,884
McMillen-Paz, Dana F ESOL Transitional Teacher South Lakes High School $40,986
Creed, Pamela M ESOL Transitional Teacher Falls Church High School $38,476

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Cost of open borders part 2 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:06PM

Snyder, James E ESOL Transitional Math Teacher South Lakes High School $91,041
Yaktieen, Mohamed H ESOL Transitional Math Teacher Annandale High School $83,664
Stein, Victor S ESOL Transitional Math Teacher Lee High School $56,720
Hamilton III, William L ESOL Transitional Math Teacher Falls Church High School $52,374
Gunn, George W ESOL Transitional Math Teacher Alan Leis Center $46,967
Lowe, Robert S ESOL Transitional School Counselor Alan Leis Center $98,291
Adkins-Hastings, Karen C ESOL Transitional School Counselor South Lakes High School $76,123
Grauer, Andrew C ESOL Transitional School Counselor Annandale High School $68,404
Brown, Robin D ESOL Transitional School Counselor Lee High School $62,536

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: open borders cost-part 3 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:07PM

Bello, Thomas M ESOL Teacher, HS Willston Center $97,088
Ben-Barka, Alba C ESOL Teacher, HS McLean High School $96,039
Fry, Harry J ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $93,934
Haney, Myra J ESOL Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $92,235
Wiswell, Susan E ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $92,235
Tomisato, Georgiana K ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $90,569
Ba, Eileen J ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $89,127
Mentis, Constantina T ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $88,936
Kaplan, Janie C ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $87,487
McDonald, Tracy S ESOL Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $87,487
Watlington, Paul ESOL Teacher, HS Woodson High School $87,487
Cherian, Ann E ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $86,399
Stevens, Mary Jane ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $86,399
Gauthier, Therese M ESOL Teacher, HS Langley High School $84,939
Indelicato, Nancy F ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $84,939
Rosenberg, Cynthia L ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $81,559
Bolon, Carol R ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $81,357
Seyfulla, Zamira ESOL Teacher, HS McLean High School $80,098
Thompson, Sandra J ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $80,098
Campiglia, Michelle R ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $79,251
Ciftci, Yasemin ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $79,251
Durand, Julia S ESOL Teacher, HS South County High $79,251
Stratos, Anne Marie ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $79,251
Chekin, Leslie L ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $79,119
Widmayer, Sharon A ESOL Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $79,119
Balogh, Lisa ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $77,791
Carser-Brown, Sharon ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $77,791
Luehring, Grace L ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $77,791
Peppel, Glen W ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $77,791
Polcha, Vanessa M ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $77,791
Sait, Naseema ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $77,791
Valenzuela, Sandra B ESOL Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $77,791
Whitesell, Dale ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $77,791
Ndikintum, Gerald B ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $76,953
Cridlan, Seung E ESOL Teacher, HS South County High $75,554
Magretta, Danyele H ESOL Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $75,554
Voda, Karen E ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $75,140
Williams, Katherine W ESOL Teacher, HS South County High $75,140
Johnson, Jeanette M ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $73,621
Rizzo, Mary P ESOL Teacher, HS Oakton High School $73,621
Allen, Susan C ESOL Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $73,387
Banerjee, Oindrila ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $73,387
Honore, Laudzie M ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $73,387
Skiffington, Patricia A ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $73,387
Danies, Carmen ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $72,748
De Gatica, Andrea ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $72,748
Kim, HeeSang ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $72,748
Akpati, Rose N ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $71,288
Costello, Bora K ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $71,288
Lopatin, Barbara J ESOL Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $71,288
Nave, Amy A ESOL Teacher, HS Centreville High School $71,288
Partlow, Lori E ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $71,288
Scarlett, Patricia A ESOL Teacher, HS Woodson High School $71,288
Vigen, Joanne A ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $71,288
Willson, Lisa I ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $71,288
Askari, Ghida A ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $70,847
Ohanian, Michelle M ESOL Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $70,713
Rose, Annette M ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $70,713
Nebinski, Susan ESOL Teacher, HS Centreville High School $69,886
Carlson, Laurel M ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $69,253
Fox, Kathleen M ESOL Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $69,253
Starnes, Kisha K ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $69,253
Nowrouz, Anne M ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $68,637
Blair, Linda B ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $67,282
Follegati Lambert, Gloria K ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $67,282
Jenczewski, Stefan A ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $67,282
Picard, Michelle H ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $67,282
Smith, Sarah A ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $67,282
Fitzgerel, Michael ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $66,832
Bolfek, Hope L ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $65,371
Rose, Barbara G ESOL Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $65,371
Bates, Lora R ESOL Teacher, HS Oakton High School $63,520
Beilke, Jennifer A ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $63,520
Olmes, Brian A ESOL Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $63,520
Paolicelli, Molly A ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $63,520
Payne, Pamela J ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $63,520
Perez, Zenaida D ESOL Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $63,520
Sherrill, Megan P ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $63,520
Smith, Sarah G ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $63,520
Crosson, Brian T ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $63,187
Harrup, Heike H ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $63,187
Coughlan, Melanie P ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $61,726
Doyle, Sharon ESOL Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $61,726
Dunnell, Audrey I ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $61,726
Hsia, Evelyn ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $61,726
Itayem, Sanaa H ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $61,726
King, Shana B ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $61,726
Peck, Elizabeth M ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $61,448
Bouallegui, Rachel S ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $61,201
Cruz, Maria B ESOL Teacher, HS Oakton High School $60,286
Chubb, Erin E ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $59,988
Rineer, Katharine M ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $59,988
Brown, Gordon P ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $59,764
Fullinwider, Eric B ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $59,764
Lindemann, Andrea W ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $59,764
Weise, Jennifer D ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $59,350
Jacob, Elizabeth A ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $59,075
Otero, Susan H ESOL Teacher, HS Plum Center For Lifelong Learning $58,854
Schubring, Rosemarie A ESOL Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $58,659
Capon, Veronika ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $58,303
Cupolo, Richard J ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $58,303
Gmati, Meha E ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $58,303
Kahn, Tatiana L ESOL Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $58,303
Liacopoulos, Nicholas ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $58,303
Marrero, Michelle I ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $58,303
Beldon, Maria S ESOL Teacher, HS Langley High School $58,181
Slingerland, Bethany S ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $58,181
Herring, Brunilda S ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $57,852
Amaral, Susan K ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $56,742
Leger, Nicole A ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $56,720
Lusk, Kelly E ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $56,720
Owens, Melanie P ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $56,720
Reamer, Jenny C ESOL Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $56,720
Turner, Heather C ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $56,720
Meriwether, Kathleen W ESOL Teacher, HS West Springfield High School $55,818
Boswell-Sears, Susan E ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $55,281
DeHart, Lisa L ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $55,281
Falknor, Catherine M ESOL Teacher, HS McLean High School $55,281
Langrehr, Amy E ESOL Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $55,281
Lee, Jennifer B ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $55,281
Nolasco, Maria D ESOL Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $55,281
White, Vanessa M ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $55,281
Quada De Ochoa, Anna M ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $55,280
Brodersen, Natalie A ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $54,213
Hasnain, Raina ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $54,213
Hauptman, Melissa D ESOL Teacher, HS Edison High School $54,213
John-Ekanem, Mercy ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $54,213
Mounteer, Catherine C ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $54,213
Noble, Allyson L ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $54,213
Zill, Caroline S ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $54,213
Buschman, Paul V ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $54,069
Padgett-Wernig, Ann ESOL Teacher, HS Woodson High School $53,835
Cunningham, Kristen L ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $53,262
Kapuscinski, Tricia P ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $53,262
Ramirez, Sashah A ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $53,262
Weeks, Aubree J ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $53,262
Clare, Pamela N ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $52,374
Degner, Dee A ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $52,374
Lin, Pearl ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $52,374
Sisskind, Kimberly L ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $52,374
Vance, Anchalee C ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $52,374
Williams, Somi ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $52,374
Zeballos, Sarah E ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $52,374
Ennis-Martin, Mary E ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $51,957
Mazan, Allen W ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $51,957
Troop, Jonathan D ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $51,957
Cronin, Nancy L ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $51,550
Looney, Rachel H ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $51,550
Nobles, Lisa C ESOL Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $51,550
Rivera Malave, Veronica I ESOL Teacher, HS Madison High School $51,550
Brown, Laura L ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $51,112
Zuniga, Cesar A ESOL Teacher, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $51,112
D'Andrea, April D ESOL Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $50,739
Domestici, Daniela ESOL Teacher, HS Bryant Alternative High School $50,739
Quiambao, Andrea R ESOL Teacher, HS South County High $50,739
Graham, Patricia L ESOL Teacher, HS Madison High School $48,130
Michels, Kristen L ESOL Teacher, HS Annandale High School $48,130
Thomas-Barnett, Beverly A ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $47,594
Rodriguez, Martin D ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $46,707
Kim, Christine G ESOL Teacher, HS South County High $46,635
Yoo, Jinyoung ESOL Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $46,635
Gage, Jennifer R ESOL Teacher, HS Stuart High School $46,290
Merrell, Shannon ESOL Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $46,290
Hanine, Amal ESOL Teacher, HS West Potomac High School $45,884
Carag, Rene C ESOL Teacher, HS Herndon High School $45,161
Cooper, Elizabeth T ESOL Teacher, HS Oakton High School $44,877
Kurita, Mark S ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $31,760
Bolognesi, Linda R ESOL Teacher, HS Pimmit Hills Center $31,496
Nieh, Sunny ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $28,360
Rubeiz, Karen J ESOL Teacher, HS Marshall High School $27,361
Friedlander, Merrily ESOL Teacher, HS Westfield High School $25,775
James, Shannon R ESOL Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $25,369
Fleming, Raymond F Jr. ESOL Teacher, HS Lee High School $15,849

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: cost of open borders-part 4 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:10PM

Gron, Phyllis C ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $91,041
Faraj, Cathleen C ESOL Teacher, MS Frost Middle School $90,569
McDade, Michael ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $90,569
Rodriguez Marchany, Maria d ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $88,936
Mehrnama, Suzanne ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $86,399
Murbock, Alice D ESOL Teacher, MS Twain Middle School $84,939
Sbaiti, Hana Y ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $84,939
Maksymonko, Emily O ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $83,941
Thomas, Wanda H ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $83,306
Dower, Janet L ESOL Teacher, MS South County Middle School $82,481
O'Neill, Donna G ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $82,481
Saah, Oraib I ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $82,481
Souligne, Robin H ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $81,559
Guzman, Mirna M ESOL Teacher, MS Franklin Middle School $80,098
Lawver, Suzanne H ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $80,098
Miller, Jane L ESOL Teacher, MS Twain Middle School $80,098
Hanlon, Mary J ESOL Teacher, MS Lake Braddock Secondary School $79,251
Kulwatno, Wichuda S ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $79,251
Beyler, Elizabeth A ESOL Teacher, MS Robinson Secondary School $77,791
Ehsani, Susanne ESOL Teacher, MS Kilmer Middle School $77,791
Hockenbury, Sharon E ESOL Teacher, MS Robinson Secondary School $77,791
Hoffman, Timothy L ESOL Teacher, MS Stone Middle School $77,791
Razik, Nagat A ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $77,791
Raivel, Lauren E ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $77,246
McCarthy, Patricia ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $77,014
Kim, Jinnie ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $75,929
Linza, Julia S ESOL Teacher, MS Kilmer Middle School $75,554
Odell, Roxanne ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $75,554
Renfrew, John N ESOL Teacher, MS Thoreau Middle School $75,554
Reyes, Ilsa E ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $75,554
Chapman, Maria Del Pilar Q ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $75,140
Larigakis, Vilma N ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $75,140
Arnold, Erin K ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $73,387
Maginn, Abby E ESOL Teacher, MS Carson Middle School $73,387
Kim, Soojung ESOL Teacher, MS Burke School $72,818
Barrueco, Alberto ESOL Teacher, MS Carson Middle School $72,748
Kramer, Geraldine A ESOL Teacher, MS Cooper Middle School $72,123
Vaughan, Stephanie J ESOL Teacher, MS Cedar Lane School $71,378
Growitz-Bermudez, Kristin G ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $71,288
Schwartz, Lisa J ESOL Teacher, MS Twain Middle School $71,288
Hellweg, Piedad E ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $70,713
Kuchno, Jennifer L ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $70,713
Reppert, Jill D ESOL Teacher, MS Key Middle School $70,713
Rodriguez-Walhout, Josephine ESOL Teacher, MS Lake Braddock Secondary School $69,253
Saba, Patsy R ESOL Teacher, MS Kilmer Middle School $69,253
Spitler, Charmaine T ESOL Teacher, MS Longfellow Middle School $69,253
Staroscik, Michael ESOL Teacher, MS Cooper Middle School $69,253
Yoon, Sung J ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $69,253
Marik, Lisa B ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $68,742
Blomquist, Eric R ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $67,409
Hersh, David C ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $67,409
Jones, Lorraine S ESOL Teacher, MS Key Middle School $67,282
Mason, Susan A ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $67,282
Guzik, Ellen K ESOL Teacher, MS Key Middle School $67,118
Yeuell, Eugenia M ESOL Teacher, MS Key Middle School $65,620
Benedict, Elizabeth A ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $65,371
Wescott, Douglas M ESOL Teacher, MS Key Middle School $65,371
Haleem, Rubina ESOL Teacher, MS Stone Middle School $65,292
Norwood, Denise M ESOL Teacher, MS Davis Career Center $64,980
Chadwell, Laura G ESOL Teacher, MS Pulley Career Center $63,520
Vejar, Phyllis E ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $63,520
Thompson, Ariane A ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $62,720
Boomer, Sarah ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $61,726
Michaelsen, Janet W ESOL Teacher, MS Irving Middle School $61,726
Supanklang, Annie V ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $61,726
Galle, Julie A ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $61,448
Milliken, Jessica B ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $60,920
Highberg, Robin D ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $59,988
James, Elena P ESOL Teacher, MS Carson Middle School $59,988
Jung, Min-Jung K ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $59,988
Kim, Sarah H ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $59,988
McAuliffe, Kathleen A ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $59,988
Stephenson, Christine ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $59,988
Zaloum, Sharon A ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $59,764
Zebra, Anne M ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $59,764
Behrens, Peter E ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $58,303
Cernucan, Adriana M ESOL Teacher, MS Kilmer Middle School $58,303
Dove, Jessica M ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $58,303
Engman, Neena G ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $58,303
Steinhilber, Melissa M ESOL Teacher, MS Irving Middle School $58,303
Wieder, Lorenda L ESOL Teacher, MS Stone Middle School $58,303
Calderon-Teran, Sonia R ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $58,181
Uncles, John F ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $57,556
Cioffi, Tammi L ESOL Teacher, MS Lake Braddock Secondary School $56,720
D'Angelo, Lisa C ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $56,720
Lewis, Horatio B III ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $56,720
Mancuso, Greer P ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $56,720
McIntosh, Elena T ESOL Teacher, MS Franklin Middle School $56,720
Molino, Elizabeth S ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $56,720
Paz-Espinoza, Martha M ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $56,720
Staab, Elaine G ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $56,720
Grady, Joan E ESOL Teacher, MS Lake Braddock Secondary School $56,058
Burnette, Cherie A ESOL Teacher, MS Franklin Middle School $55,281
Carragher, Francis W II ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $55,281
Chang, Vanessa S ESOL Teacher, MS Thoreau Middle School $55,281
Doherty, Tulla B ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $55,281
Dredge, Helen B ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $55,281
Benedict, Alexa B ESOL Teacher, MS Frost Middle School $54,213
Smith, Venita L ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $54,213
Wagner, Cynthia M ESOL Teacher, MS Longfellow Middle School $54,213
Saxton, Caitlyn M ESOL Teacher, MS Kilmer Middle School $53,835
Cornett, Vanessa D ESOL Teacher, MS Thoreau Middle School $53,262
Jaime, Sheila M ESOL Teacher, MS Twain Middle School $53,262
Kane, Teresa C ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $53,262
Baksi, Lindsay M ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $52,374
Blanco, Jennifer L ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $52,374
DeBose, Claudia D ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $52,374
Flegal, Jane C ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $52,374
Oconnor, Patrice B ESOL Teacher, MS Lanier Middle School $52,374
Schwenz, Biljana ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $52,374
Stoothoff, Luke M ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $52,374
Wilson, Gretchen D ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $52,374
Spencer, Phillip M ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $51,957
Eatmon, Cassandra C ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $51,550
Ferreira, Dorine ESOL Teacher, MS South County Middle School $51,550
Koch, Valerie H ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $51,550
Nkar, Angeline E ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $51,550
Rose, Emily M ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $51,550
Athing, Kaitlyn E ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $50,739
White, Claire L ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $50,739
Wright, Jason L ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $50,739
Yedigarian, Helen M ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $50,739
Rodriguez, Francisco J ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $50,611
Macey, Lisa M ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $49,306
Shine, Stacie C ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $48,901
Lonegan, Jaclyn A ESOL Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $48,130
Mulcahy, Lindsay ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $48,130
Odeh, Yara M ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $48,130
Goldovsky, Tatiana ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $47,594
Case, Hallie M ESOL Teacher, MS Herndon Middle School $46,707
Clark, Sarah K ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $46,635
Cho, Elizabeth A ESOL Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $46,290
Saludo, James L ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $45,884
Dewett, Katherine L ESOL Teacher, MS Franklin Middle School $45,161
Orihuela, Claudia R ESOL Teacher, MS Holmes Middle School $45,161
Schurr, Melissa A ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $45,161
Taylor, Mia N ESOL Teacher, MS Sandburg Middle School $45,161
Wade, Lanitra P ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $45,161
Horowitz, Bonnie D ESOL Teacher, MS Rocky Run Middle School $34,933
Hwang, Katherine K ESOL Teacher, MS Luther Jackson Middle School $31,760
Gonzalez, Suzanna H ESOL Teacher, MS Twain Middle School $30,863
Ahn, Judy Y ESOL Teacher, MS Liberty Middle School $29,994
Stobie, Alison M ESOL Teacher, MS Hughes Middle School $25,978
Rose, Lorraine ESOL Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $25,775
Pollock, Jennifer M ESOL Teacher, MS Hayfield Secondary School $24,450

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: County Taxpayer ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:10PM

Gatehouse's 6-figure club is costing us a mere $14 million per year, exclusive of retirement and health benefits? Gotta love it.

The good news is that this is a mere $78.31 per student, based on the current enrollment figure posted on their website—Which is a tiny slice of the $13,000 it costs per student to "educate" our students with the latest fads and stuff them full of bubbleheaded liberal tropes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: worth more than teachers??? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:19PM

Carlin, Patricia A Buyer Supervisor Gatehouse Administration Center I $99,939
Sansone, Brian W Budget Analyst IV Gatehouse Administration Center I $99,396
Webb, Michele T Manager, Human Resources Communications Gatehouse Administration Center I $99,396
Phillips, Christina M Safety Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $98,939
Ball, Gary D Security Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $98,939
Sall, Susan L Resource Teacher, Elementary School/Nonschool Based Gatehouse Administration Center I $98,064
Burke, Barbara A Senior Communications Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $97,951
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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: James ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:26PM

How dare these people, most who have advanced degrees, earn such salaries?

How dare these people, many of whom put up with crap from your little twit kid, earn such salaries?


Whoever the moron is who is posting these salaries would not last one day in a high school classroom. They would run him out the door.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: we know who they are ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:01PM

James Wrote:
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> How dare these people, most who have advanced
> degrees, earn such salaries?
>
> How dare these people, many of whom put up with
> crap from your little twit kid, earn such
> salaries?
>
>
> Whoever the moron is who is posting these salaries
> would not last one day in a high school classroom.
> They would run him out the door.


Gotta a tip for you fella, a lot of the folk on here are retirees from other county agencies and the school system itself. Pretty tidy sums if you ask me

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: zero ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:04PM

How many days a year does a school teacher work? Is it really 9-9.5 months? Are we comparing it to the private sector? The benefits package through Fairfax and the school system is fantastic. I'm not certain we're comparing apples to apples. I can't say one way or another that school children are getting their money's worth. What do we expect?

http://m.npr.org/news/U.S./163703499

"Here's what the Virginia state board of education actually did. It looked at students' test scores in reading and math and then proposed new passing rates. In math it set an acceptable passing rate at 82 percent for Asian students, 68 percent for whites, 52 percent for Latinos, 45 percent for blacks and 33 percent for kids with disabilities."

Is this acceptable?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:31PM

I certainly have no qualms with a top notch, experienced Physics teacher earning 80-90k...That is probably a little low in terms of attracting good talent. But for a school to have 2 Cosmetology Instructors making 87K a piece??? That's absurd.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: exteacher ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:39PM

Zero,

I will not ask you what your name is, but I am curious to know what you do, and what your salary is. Also how much money do you think these individuals should be making? Lastly, why is it you dont work for the county if this is such a great gig?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: this is much more complex ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:42PM

How much is a good teacher worth? How much is it worth to retain experienced people? How much should someone with an advanced college degree earn in a high cost of living area? How far should people have to commute? Should there be a career ladder for teachers? How much is it worth for a child to have consistent staff in a school and to interact with that staff over the course of their childhood/teenagehood? How much is it worth for a student to find and hone a passion in music, dance, sports and a lot of the other classes you have mentioned? How many parents value these things for their children and support them? How much do we value our children in this country (and they do belong to all of us, even the ones from other countries who will become adults here)?

Please discuss these questions instead of just putting names and salaries up. If someone is not working, yes, they should be fired. Most teachers I know are working harder than you can imagine.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:48PM

Van Wrote:
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> I certainly have no qualms with a top notch,
> experienced Physics teacher earning 80-90k...That
> is probably a little low in terms of attracting
> good talent.

Most physics teachers in the system aren't physicists (which is to be expected). Rather, they're engineers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/21/2012 07:49PM by Young Curmudgeon.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: wowsa ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:50PM

Thats all these people make.? I think I have sympathy for them.... wowsa...... that life must suck...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: county resident 30+ ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:56PM

I have always heard that teachers do not get paid very well. I guess its true. I could not imagine living in Fairfax county on less than 100k. Hopefully most of them have dual income households.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:00PM

I like the posters who are acting like these people are so underpaid. Avg salary for a fx county resident is 67K (link below). I guess the avg FFXU poster pulls down what? 300? 400?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States#section_2

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: zero ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:05PM

exteacher,

I work in public safety for Fairfax and work 56 hours a week for the fire department. I do not think I'm worth my $90K salary. I have a bachelor's degree but based on the expected skill level, I only need a GED. It's great money and I'm far from complaining. However, I know the salaries in the fire department are far too high. Evaluating our personnel, salaries and compensation packages is long overdue. I feel this is true for all departments.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: exteacher ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:12PM

I call bs. If not give us your name, then quit and save us 90,000. You are a loser punk with no past and no future.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: spin cycle on high ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:16PM

Van Wrote:
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> I like the posters who are acting like these
> people are so underpaid. Avg salary for a fx
> county resident is 67K (link below). I guess the
> avg FFXU poster pulls down what? 300? 400?
>
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-inc
> ome_counties_in_the_United_States#section_2


67 is the per capita income you ignorant fuck.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: time for a reset ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:22PM

paying a cosmetology or fashion design teacher the same as a high level math teacher at TJ is just dumb.

perople should be paid based on how challenging their job is. Any of us could teach pe for a day--not physics.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: zero ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:23PM

extecher,

BS on what part?

It's unfortunate that we cannot have an intelligent discussion. "loser punk with no past and no future" has discredited you. Ex-teacher? I hope not.

Thank you for the input. I'll continue to provide our county with unmatched emergency service despite your immaturity and attack.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: rules for employees ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:27PM

I see Cassie Eatmon is an ESOL teacher at Herndon MS.

Isn't she the Kathy Smith ass kisser who sat on several committees?

I thought employees were ineligible?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ex teacher ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:32PM

BS because you have obviously no idea how far 90,000 goes in this county. If you had any idea you wouldnt feel overpaid. It is u that has no credibilty sir. I maintain my original assessment .... You are somebody with an extreme lack of success in life... ie... a loser...

Also, not everybody can teach PE. I suggest volunteering at your local school to see how difficult it really os.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:37PM

Hey Spin Cycle,

Avg income for a FX resident w/ a bachelor degree is 65K. 93K for a post-grad degree. Do you like those numbers better? You can nitpick and name call all you like, but it's not going to change the facts that some of those on FCPS payroll are significantly overpaid.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demogrph/graphs/inceduc.pdf

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:40PM

Sure, not everyone is capable of teaching PE, but about 90% of the adult population could. I certainly wouldn't say the same about Math, English, Science, Foreign Language, etc.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ex teacher ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:51PM

It is not about balls and strikes, foul or no foul....

It is about classroom management. Also the management of insane parental expectations. Again, volunteer... please, educate yourself. You really sound like you dont know what you are talking about.
0
Also, A teacher with a post graduate degree wont make 93,000 until they have 25 yrs experience. Have you done anything for that long? Can you imagine how good you would be at madden or call of duty or what ever it is that you do every day if you did it for 25 yrs?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: rounder ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:58PM

How Fairfax parents see their kids
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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: rounder ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:58PM

The real deal
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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 09:11PM

Ex-teach - Earlier in this thread I posted that I thought 90k for a top notch, experienced Physics teacher is probably low. I'd have no issue with a teacher earning 193K if they were a proven, quality instructor in a high demand, low supply discipline. I had a former college professor for a biology teacher in HS and she would have been worth that, if not more.

I'm not sure why you are so defensive.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ex teacher ()
Date: November 21, 2012 09:38PM

Ok ill bite,

I am offended that u r posting names of people in public and passing judgement as to their importance based on your inadequate evaluation of their true effectiveness. Did you even consider that a student taking physics does so by choice? Because they take physics by choice they are not going to be a hassle for that teacher. Those teachefs have theeir work cut out for them no doubt, but there is something to be said for the teacher that has to take and love all types.... And their parents.... Quit complaining that you cant xrack the 35,000 threshold....

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Just a thought ()
Date: November 21, 2012 09:49PM

Some yes, teachers with post-graduate degrees no.

There are only two ways a teacher could make the average salary in FFX Co. with a post-grad degree:

*Have a Masters, 30 additional hours of post-graduate work, and 27 years of experience
*Have a Doctorate degree and 25 years of experience.


Van Wrote:
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> Hey Spin Cycle,
>
> Avg income for a FX resident w/ a bachelor degree
> is 65K. 93K for a post-grad degree. Do you like
> those numbers better? You can nitpick and name
> call all you like, but it's not going to change
> the facts that some of those on FCPS payroll are
> significantly overpaid.
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demogrph/graphs/inced
> uc.pdf

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Thought doesn't matter ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:03PM

Just a thought Wrote:
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> Some yes, teachers with post-graduate degrees no.
>
> There are only two ways a teacher could make the
> average salary in FFX Co. with a post-grad
> degree:
>
> *Have a Masters, 30 additional hours of
> post-graduate work, and 27 years of experience
> *Have a Doctorate degree and 25 years of
> experience.
>


It doesn't matter. This is just an extension of the bitter tea party mentality. Everyone is overpaid, except the person behind their own nose. Nobody deserves to get paid a dime more than they do, unless that person is a job creator or is extremely wealthy already. These are feeble people who can barely read, so they don't understand why a teacher should get paid more than their slobby asses.

Whenever you hear someone complain about teacher salaries, just understand that the speaker is a failure and a loser who doesn't earn anywhere near a teacher's salary, and is nowhere near as qualified.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: you forget MR.lANIGAN ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:36PM

HOW MUCH DOES OUR DEAR FRIEND Sean Lanigan earn?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: BS. ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:44PM

Thought doesn't matter Wrote:
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> Just a thought Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Some yes, teachers with post-graduate degrees
> no.
> >
> > There are only two ways a teacher could make
> the
> > average salary in FFX Co. with a post-grad
> > degree:
> >
> > *Have a Masters, 30 additional hours of
> > post-graduate work, and 27 years of experience
> > *Have a Doctorate degree and 25 years of
> > experience.
> >
>
>
> It doesn't matter. This is just an extension of
> the bitter tea party mentality. Everyone is
> overpaid, except the person behind their own nose.
> Nobody deserves to get paid a dime more than they
> do, unless that person is a job creator or is
> extremely wealthy already. These are feeble
> people who can barely read, so they don't
> understand why a teacher should get paid more than
> their slobby asses.
>
> Whenever you hear someone complain about teacher
> salaries, just understand that the speaker is a
> failure and a loser who doesn't earn anywhere near
> a teacher's salary, and is nowhere near as
> qualified.



Awww bullshit. Half or more the people listed aren't even teachers or only marginally so.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:51PM

First, teach, I'm not posting salaries - that's 'Zero'. I understand your concerns with that. Passing judgement? I'm guilty. Anyhow, if we flipped this around and the salaries of the individuals in my office were posted, I'd have no issues pointing out the individuals, either via performance or position, who are significantly overpaid (and underpaid). I think teachers would be better served to be more open and honest about their peers as opposed to adopting a 'blue code of silence' style posture...And I think the kids would benefit.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: The Tattler ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:52PM

Keep posting salaries. This is awesome.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tell us what website ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:54PM

Where did you find it? I don't think I can go talk to my son's teacher knowing I earning about the same as her and I don't have a no college degree.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Van ()
Date: November 21, 2012 10:58PM

Just to add, teach, in terms of school expenditures, I'm less concerned with teacher salaries than I am with how money is spent at the Admin level and on construction of facilities.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Agent Tiger ()
Date: November 21, 2012 11:14PM

So....where can we find all this nifty info?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fgeiewb ()
Date: November 21, 2012 11:46PM

THOSE WHO CANT DO...............

TEACH

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Prick ()
Date: November 22, 2012 12:03AM

fgeiewb Wrote:
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> THOSE WHO CANT DO...............
>
> TEACH


Those who can't teach .......

Make up about 95% of the population

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: asdasdf3 ()
Date: November 22, 2012 12:11AM

Van Wrote:
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> I like the posters who are acting like these
> people are so underpaid. Avg salary for a fx
> county resident is 67K (link below). I guess the
> avg FFXU poster pulls down what? 300? 400?
>
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-inc
> ome_counties_in_the_United_States#section_2


+1! Looking at other threads, it looks like the average poster here is making around $350,000 annually. Engineer thread, this thread, security clearance thread, i make 400k and am voting for x threads, and many more.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Janitor Joe ()
Date: November 22, 2012 12:25AM

Van Wrote:
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> Just to add, teach, in terms of school
> expenditures, I'm less concerned with teacher
> salaries than I am with how money is spent at the
> Admin level and on construction of facilities.


Exactly. And other unnecessary nonsense. What are we down to now on a percentage basis for teachers salary versus admin and the rest of the school budget?

This is a good follow-up to the ridiculous services contract awards FCPS hands out.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Hearing Crickets ()
Date: November 22, 2012 12:32AM

Janitor Joe Wrote:
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>
> Exactly. And other unnecessary nonsense. What
> are we down to now on a percentage basis for
> teachers salary versus admin and the rest of the
> school budget?
>
> This is a good follow-up to the ridiculous
> services contract awards FCPS hands out.


I have a feeling anyone who is pointing out the "outlandish" pay of staff and teachers is probably trying to stir up resentment towards the workers so they can slash their pay. Meanwhile, the OP is making plans for how to spend the extra money they'll be giving themselves at the administrative offices.

My guess is we won't be seeing a list of salaries for the board and the people who work for them directly. Those people probably have $650,000 salaries.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Another list ()
Date: November 22, 2012 01:33AM

How much do the secretaries make if everyone is making 60 thousand for 10 months of work?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bill Hayes ()
Date: November 22, 2012 06:24AM

Fuck those chinks and beaners.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Renee ()
Date: November 23, 2012 08:35AM

Please tell where you found the salaries of the teachers?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: average it out ()
Date: November 23, 2012 09:04AM

Dont forget those are annual salaries even though they work nine months a year. So while you and a teacher may make the same salary of say $60,000 a year the teacher has the whole summer off, you get two weeks.
And before any of those lazy teachers tell me how you take work home at night in the real world we do the same thing without compensation.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teach ()
Date: November 23, 2012 09:11AM

average it out Wrote:
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> Dont forget those are annual salaries even though
> they work nine months a year. So while you and a
> teacher may make the same salary of say $60,000 a
> year the teacher has the whole summer off, you get
> two weeks.
> And before any of those lazy teachers tell me how
> you take work home at night in the real world we
> do the same thing without compensation.

Dude, we're hiring! Dust off your resume and hop on the gravy train!

Oh wait, a GED won't cut it. Guess you better stay in the "real world" with the rest of the stupid motherfuckers.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Joe College ()
Date: November 23, 2012 09:20AM

I make more in two months than you make in a year baby. Now go back to work you overpaid babysitter

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Think calm thoughts ()
Date: November 23, 2012 09:23AM

teach Wrote:
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> Dude, we're hiring! Dust off your resume and hop
> on the gravy train!
>
> Oh wait, a GED won't cut it. Guess you better
> stay in the "real world" with the rest of the
> stupid motherfuckers.

with your anger issues and self hatred over your poor choice of occupation you do not need to be teaching kids. You would be better suited working the returns counter at Walmart.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teach ()
Date: November 23, 2012 10:38AM

Think calm thoughts Wrote:
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> with your anger issues and self hatred over your
> poor choice of occupation you do not need to be
> teaching kids. You would be better suited working
> the returns counter at Walmart.

Well professor, When Walmart starts paying $82K at the returns counter, I might consider it.

I just have to laugh at you bastards. If FCPS is such a great deal, why are we constantly hiring? Answer: FCPS has tremendous turnover. And it isn't all retirements, not by a long shot.

Hundreds of young and non-retirement eligible teachers quit every year. Why, because it is a royal pain in the ass, and with their educations, they can do better elsewhere.

I know the GED crowd is jealous of our salaries. I'm sure they must seem enormous compared to their own. All I can say is, you should have pursued higher education.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: such crapola ()
Date: November 23, 2012 10:47AM

Yea, ok buddy, the pay and benefits at FCPS suck soooooooooooooooo bad that they are flooded with about 10,000 applications for jobs EVERY YEAR.

If the pay is so awful than why do so many people want to work there?

Take a class in labor econ pal.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FOIA ()
Date: November 23, 2012 10:50AM

The salaries of public employees are subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. There is no charge since this information has already been furnished to the public.

Simply send an email to Branyann? Reeves or someone in FOIA office (see FCPS website) and be sure to ask for the excel spreadsheet version. You should get it within 5 business days or less.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: vs private sector?? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:18AM

Brady, Janice E Administrative Assistant I Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Dixon, Donna M Administrative Assistant I Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Evans, Renae L Administrative Assistant I Lorton Center $61,360
Godoy, Elizabeth N Administrative Assistant I Woodson Adult High School $61,360
Mahan, Leslie L Administrative Assistant I Rocky Run Early Childhood Center $61,360
Nicewarner, Carol U Administrative Assistant I Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,360
Richardson, Annette M Administrative Assistant I Lorton Center $61,360
Sowah, Cynthia M Administrative Assistant I Virginia Hills Early Childhood Center $61,360
Spinks, Ellen K Administrative Assistant I South Lakes High School $61,360
Stevenson, Jama L Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $61,360
Wilson, Maureen A Administrative Assistant I Nancy Sprague Technology Center $61,360
Azamy, Fahima Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $60,157
Bales, Joanne Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $60,157
Campbell, Donna L Administrative Assistant I Mount Vernon High School $60,157
Edwards, Anita Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $60,157
May, Virginia A Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $60,157
Shanley, Kelley L Administrative Assistant I Fairfax High School $60,157
Watts, Tamela M Administrative Assistant I Alan Leis Center $60,157
Wells, Carolyn S Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $60,157
Wilson, Christine M Administrative Assistant I Nancy Sprague Technology Center $60,157
Brown, Virginia H Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $58,690
Kelly, Suzanne F Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $58,690
Molina, Gilma E Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $58,690
Paradise, Sharon R Administrative Assistant I Chantilly High School $58,690
Reyes, Osneida Administrative Assistant I Montrose Alternative Learning Center $58,690
Stahler, Susan R Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $58,690
Cooper-Evans, Gwendolyn Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $57,258
Diggs, Dorothy A Administrative Assistant I Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $57,258
Harris, Bessie L Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $57,258
Ramos, Catherine D Administrative Assistant I Stuart High School $57,258
Bailey, Tamara S Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $56,580
Bryan, Karen A Administrative Assistant I Fairfax High School $56,580
Buschman, Carolyn J Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $56,580
Kreisel, Cynthia G Administrative Assistant I Fairfax High School $56,580
Sparks, Margaret P Administrative Assistant I Hayfield Secondary School $56,580
Gerhart, Tina J Administrative Assistant I Rocky Run Early Childhood Center $55,862
Murphy, Diane Administrative Assistant I Marshall High School $55,862
Taylor, Beverly S Administrative Assistant I Lake Braddock Secondary School $55,862
Willis, Jenifer F Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $55,862
Zeledon, Karla P Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $55,862
Beal, Christine E Administrative Assistant I West Potomac High School $55,471
Clark, Edna B Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $55,471
Crawford, Linda H Administrative Assistant I Herndon High School $55,471
Dooley, Dina M Administrative Assistant I West Potomac High School $55,471
Lovitt, Cheryl J Administrative Assistant I Mount Vernon High School $55,471
Mitzel, Curt W Administrative Assistant I Woodson High School $55,471
Perez, Ernestina Administrative Assistant I Mountain View Alternative High School $55,471
Brooks, Krystal L Administrative Assistant I Edison High School $54,499
Chamberlin, Corrie T Administrative Assistant I Stonecroft Transportation $54,499
Hentz, Sandra J Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $54,499
Hines, Karen M Administrative Assistant I Falls Church High School $54,499
Quinn, Kathleen E Administrative Assistant I Chantilly High School $54,499
Trinh, Hang T Administrative Assistant I Plum Center For Lifelong Learning $54,499
Tshimuanga, Kapinga J Administrative Assistant I Gatehouse Administration Center I $54,499
White, Virginia L Administrative Assistant I Edison High School $54,499
Czajkowski, Tami L Administrative Assistant I West Springfield High School $54,118
Hirschhorn, Linda A Administrative Assistant I Edison High School $54,118
Oktavec, Kathy A Administrative Assistant I Hayfield Secondary School $54,118
Boyd, Melanie M Administrative Assistant I West Potomac High School $53,169
Brown, Kristi L Administrative Assistant I Stonecroft Transportation $53,169
Cook, Carrie Administrative Assistant I Forte Transportation Training Center $53,169
Dawson, Tornette D Administrative Assistant I Bryant Alternative High School $53,169
Preston, Vadie T Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $53,169
Rocha, Grethel M Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $53,169
Shannon, Bonnie L Administrative Assistant I Gatehouse Administration Center I $53,169
Barlow, Diane S Administrative Assistant I Herndon High School $52,798
Brown, Keziah O Administrative Assistant I Marshall High School $52,798
Defrees, Jayne B Administrative Assistant I Oakton High School $52,798
Duran, Martha R Administrative Assistant I Stuart High School $52,798
Elliott, Margret S Administrative Assistant I Woodson High School $52,798
Guglielmo, Linda M Administrative Assistant I Annandale High School $52,798
Hayman, Theresa M Administrative Assistant I Hayfield Secondary School $52,798
Jordan, Mary E Administrative Assistant I Mount Vernon High School $52,798
Sabbahi, Patricia Administrative Assistant I Mount Vernon High School $52,798
Sweeney, Cynthia G Administrative Assistant I Fairfax High School $52,798
Swisher, Susan A Administrative Assistant I Kilmer Center $52,798
White, Denise A Administrative Assistant I Woodson High School $52,798
Hyatt, Michelle P Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $51,621
Jaggie, Brenda A Administrative Assistant I Fairfax Ridge $51,621
Moore, Lisa A Administrative Assistant I Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $51,621
Ellis, Kim E Administrative Assistant I Chantilly High School $51,510
McDonald, Joan E Administrative Assistant I Lee High School $51,510
Murphy, Sydneia L Administrative Assistant I Madison High School $51,510
Tran, Cynthia L Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $51,510
Anderson, Judith A Administrative Assistant I Falls Church High School $50,254
Grayson, Colette B Administrative Assistant I Chantilly High School $50,254
Jones, Diane P Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $50,254
Lopez, Barbara A Administrative Assistant I Marshall High School $50,254
Salzman, Sherryl L Administrative Assistant I Westfield High School $50,254
Smith, Andrea R Administrative Assistant I Westfield High School $50,254
Spillars, Marsha S Administrative Assistant I Mount Vernon High School $50,254
Wells, Pamela J Administrative Assistant I South County High $50,254
Carrasco, Maria S Administrative Assistant I South County High $50,118
Kogan, Martha Administrative Assistant I Robinson Secondary School $50,118
Rosen, Florinda M Administrative Assistant I Pimmit - Adult High $50,118
Sozio, Jennifer H Administrative Assistant I Instructional Programs Support Center $50,118

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: I vs II vs III? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:20AM

Arthur, Karen D Administrative Assistant II Twain Middle School $63,827
Atkins, Shawn L Administrative Assistant II Flint Hill Elementary School $63,827
Bernal, Miriam J Administrative Assistant II Glasgow Middle School $63,827
Bhatia, Meena Administrative Assistant II Mantua Elementary School $63,827
Burnett, Rosalie Administrative Assistant II Camelot Elementary School $63,827
Frye, Yvonne M Administrative Assistant II Rocky Run Middle School $63,827
Hicks, Stephanie D Administrative Assistant II Holmes Middle School $63,827
Ifft, Shirley M Administrative Assistant II Cunningham Park Elementary School $63,827
Kost, Virginia C Administrative Assistant II White Oaks Elementary School $63,827
Riley, Charlotte A Administrative Assistant II Greenbriar East Elementary School $63,827
Thomas, Nancy L Administrative Assistant II Chesterbrook Elementary School $63,827
Thomas, Phyllis A Administrative Assistant II Virginia Run Elementary School $63,827
Brewster, Katherine J Administrative Assistant II Union Mill Elementary School $62,575
Evans, Judith A Administrative Assistant II Oak Hill Elementary School $62,575
Frawley, Kim T Administrative Assistant II Laurel Hill Elementary School $62,575
Hall, Mary A Administrative Assistant II Hutchison Elementary School $62,575
Liagouris, Elva M Administrative Assistant II Hunters Woods Elementary School for the Arts and Sciences $62,575
Morris, Esther E Administrative Assistant II Forestdale Elementary School $62,575
Newman, Bonnie M Administrative Assistant II Brookfield Elementary School $62,575
Pierce, Mary K Administrative Assistant II Waples Mill Elementary School $62,575
Rotenberger, Betty A Administrative Assistant II Poplar Tree Elementary School $62,575
Sterling, Jody L Administrative Assistant II Churchill Road Elementary School $62,575
Stewart-Hamlett, Amanda L Administrative Assistant II Eagle View Elementary School $62,575
Stinnette, Sharon E Administrative Assistant II Bush Hill Elementary School $62,575
Thorn, Gloria J Administrative Assistant II Sunrise Valley Elementary School $62,575
Toothman, Patricia M Administrative Assistant II Floris Elementary School $62,575
Tran, Deborah A Administrative Assistant II Willow Springs Elementary School $62,575
Trapp, Brooke M Administrative Assistant II Stone Middle School $62,575
Alverson, Sylvia J Administrative Assistant II Olde Creek Elementary School $61,049
Bonaccorsy, Angela M Administrative Assistant II Springfield Estates Elementary School $61,049
Kirby, Rose M Administrative Assistant II Saratoga Elementary School $61,049
Kondik, Maryann L Administrative Assistant II Terra Centre Elementary School $61,049
Meister, Denise R Administrative Assistant II Dogwood Elementary School $61,049
Parker, Marlowe T Administrative Assistant II Bren Mar Park Elementary School $61,049
Saiid, Dahabo M Administrative Assistant II Pulley Career Center $61,049
Woodfield, Susan B Administrative Assistant II Canterbury Woods Elementary School $61,049
Bowen, Nancy C Administrative Assistant II Burke School $59,559
Clark, Lauren Administrative Assistant II Sandburg Middle School $59,559
Cubero, Emily Administrative Assistant II Garfield Elementary School $59,559
Jenkins, Ellen Administrative Assistant II Graham Road Elementary School $59,559
Johnson, Deanna L Administrative Assistant II Newington Forest Elementary School $59,559
King, Barbara J Administrative Assistant II Providence Elementary School $59,559
Mongeon, Kathleen M Administrative Assistant II Wakefield Forest Elementary School $59,559
Riddoch, Sandra M Administrative Assistant II Cedar Lane School $59,559
Schoonover, Mary B Administrative Assistant II Colin Powell Elementary School $59,559
Wilson, Stephanie D Administrative Assistant II Westgate Elementary School $59,559
Calendine, Ruth P Administrative Assistant II Mosby Woods Elementary School $58,107
Depuy, Myriam M Administrative Assistant II Hybla Valley Elementary School $58,107
Dutrow, Pamela S Administrative Assistant II Cub Run Elementary School $58,107
Ickert, Patricia N Administrative Assistant II Spring Hill Elementary School $58,107
Mace, Carol A Administrative Assistant II Liberty Middle School $58,107
Pascoe, Kathleen A Administrative Assistant II Washington Mill Elementary School $58,107
Alexander, Pamela M Administrative Assistant II Belvedere Elementary School $56,690
Fowler, Deborah J Administrative Assistant II Keene Mill Elementary School $56,690
Houston, Joan M Administrative Assistant II Cardinal Forest Elementary School $56,690
Mayville, Zari Administrative Assistant II Key Center $56,690
Mejia, Fatima Administrative Assistant II Herndon Middle School $56,690
Whitehead, Rebecca S Administrative Assistant II Stratford Landing Elementary School $56,690
Williams, Pamela M Administrative Assistant II Woodlawn Elementary School $56,690
Cronkhite, Marina I Administrative Assistant II Westlawn Elementary School $55,307
Goodwin, Sandra E Administrative Assistant II Herndon Elementary School $55,307
Harris, Kelly H Administrative Assistant II Freedom Hill Elementary School $55,307
Herb, Jill C Administrative Assistant II Cooper Middle School $55,307
Layton, Linda J Administrative Assistant II Mason Crest Elementary $55,307
Taylor, Susan Administrative Assistant II Saratoga Elementary School $55,307
Villacrusis, Mary Lou H Administrative Assistant II Halley Elementary School $55,307
Webber, Cynthia M Administrative Assistant II Lane Elementary School $55,307
Dall, Cynthia M Administrative Assistant II Greenbriar West Elementary School $53,696
Douglas, Lori L Administrative Assistant II Mount Vernon High School $53,696
Ellenberger, Joan L Administrative Assistant II Davis Career Center $53,696
Frederick, Winifred Administrative Assistant II Parklawn Elementary School $53,696
Harris, Mary E Administrative Assistant II Laurel Ridge Elementary School $53,696
Jones, Florence Administrative Assistant II Poe Middle School $53,696
Long, Diane S Administrative Assistant II Wolftrap Elementary School $53,696
Mayhugh, Constance G Administrative Assistant II Bull Run Elementary School $53,696
Oishi, Pilar R Administrative Assistant II Lanier Middle School $53,696
Wallace, Tammy T Administrative Assistant II Centre Ridge Elementary School $53,696
Whitfield, Rederica C Administrative Assistant II Kent Gardens Elementary School $53,696
Almeida, Patricia E Administrative Assistant II Hunt Valley Elementary School $52,132
Cooper, Cynthia D Administrative Assistant II Gunston Elementary School $52,132
Hettema, Leah Administrative Assistant II Kings Glen Elementary School $52,132
Kiley, Janice L Administrative Assistant II Fort Belvoir Elementary School $52,132
Marrero, Nora Administrative Assistant II Bonnie Brae Elementary School $52,132
Neuburg, Donna M Administrative Assistant II Navy Elementary School $52,132
Shea, Amee L Administrative Assistant II London Towne Elementary School $52,132
Washington, Lisa S Administrative Assistant II McNair Elementary School $52,132
Barry, Rosemary Administrative Assistant II Frost Middle School $50,613
Beyreuther, Jennifer C Administrative Assistant II Hayfield Elementary School $50,613
Castaneda, Jacqueline E Administrative Assistant II Weyanoke Elementary School $50,613
Fleming, Lakisha A Administrative Assistant II Laurel Ridge Elementary School $50,613
Frece, Kimberly S Administrative Assistant II Cherry Run Elementary School $50,613
Geary, Mary K Administrative Assistant II Sangster Elementary School $50,613
Jeter, Cynthia M Administrative Assistant II Deer Park Elementary School $50,613
Jones, Celeste B Administrative Assistant II Thoreau Middle School $50,613
La Croix, Ruth E Administrative Assistant II Lees Corner Elementary School $50,613
Madigan, Marguerite Administrative Assistant II Centreville Elementary School $50,613
Miller, Marian M Administrative Assistant II Bucknell Elementary School $50,613
Scutt, Kathleen K Administrative Assistant II Braddock Elementary School $50,613
Soria, Shannon R Administrative Assistant II Westbriar Elementary School $50,613

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Is III better than I? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:22AM

Allen, Sharon K Administrative Assistant III Sideburn Support Center $66,391
Felder, Marlene Administrative Assistant III Marshall High School $66,391
Hatchl, Gladys B Administrative Assistant III Stuart High School $66,391
Heroth, Karen M Administrative Assistant III Mount Vernon High School $66,391
Jamsheed, Norma Administrative Assistant III Langley High School $66,391
Love, Catherine M Administrative Assistant III Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $66,391
Powers, Delores C Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $66,391
Rudder, Doreen S Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $66,391
Sykes, Irene M Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $66,391
Smith, Audrey D Administrative Assistant III Falls Church High School $65,090
Walker, Debra A Administrative Assistant III South Lakes High School $63,502
Jones, Maralyn M Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,953
Milosavich, Patricia E Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $61,953
Myers, Suquesta W Administrative Assistant III Lee High School $61,953
West, Christina Administrative Assistant III Hayfield Secondary School $61,953
Cormier, Linnett L Administrative Assistant III Annandale High School $60,442
Elliott, Jo B Administrative Assistant III Bryant Alternative High School $60,442
Escott, Teresa K Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $60,442
Suberroc, Patricia E Administrative Assistant III Edison High School $60,442
Brinckmeyer, Brenda K Administrative Assistant III Herndon High School $58,968
Copeland, Joanna Administrative Assistant III West Potomac High School $58,968
Krempasky, Ramona M Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $58,968
Mitchem, Karen S Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $58,968
Pleitez, Ana D Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $58,968
Boulette, Dina M Administrative Assistant III Forbes Place $57,530
Carnes, Julie M Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $57,530
Henderson, Susan T Administrative Assistant III Robinson Secondary School $57,530
Kirschner, Patricia A Administrative Assistant III Westfield High School $57,530
Sheffield, Patricia J Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $57,530
Hatt, Elizabeth M Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $55,854
Henderson, Katherine M Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $55,854
Bull, Kathleen L Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $54,227
Calcuttawalla, Fatima P Administrative Assistant III Energy Zone Food Service Center $54,227
Cestare, Susan T Administrative Assistant III Centreville High School $54,227
McNamara, Helen M Administrative Assistant III McLean High School $54,227
Motal, Helen R Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $54,227
Anthony, Natashi M Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $52,647
Austin, Carla J Administrative Assistant III Lake Braddock Secondary School $52,647
Boullianne, Debra Administrative Assistant III Woodson High School $52,647
Judy, Karen L Administrative Assistant III South County High $52,647
Sweezey, Carmen R Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $52,647
Black, Marilyn F Administrative Assistant III Madison High School $50,867
Byers, Kim S Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $50,867
Garner, Beth Administrative Assistant III Lorton Center $50,867
Villanueva, Yolanda Administrative Assistant III Mountain View Alternative High School $50,867
Clark, Anne P Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $49,147
Humberger, Diane Administrative Assistant III Fairfax Ridge $49,147
Limache, Claudia E Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $49,147
Canella, Doreen Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $47,485
Hall, Cynthia Administrative Assistant III Chantilly High School $47,485
Lawhorn, Georgette Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $47,485
Zehr, Belinda C Administrative Assistant III Gatehouse Administration Center I $47,485
Couisine, Dawn R Administrative Assistant III Wilton Woods Center $45,880

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: seems kinda high to me ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:26AM

Brown, Kenneth L Auto Collision Services Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $87,535
Carroll, Thomas B Jr. Auto Collision Services Teacher, HS Edison High School $84,820
Moore, Ronald D Auto Collision Services Teacher, HS Marshall High School $63,883
Desio, Joseph F Auto Technology Teacher, HS Annandale High School $87,535
Steger, Leslie A Auto Technology Teacher, HS Fairfax High School $87,535
Magnusson, Ragnar E Auto Technology Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $85,418
Blondin, Michael D Auto Technology Teacher, HS Falls Church High School $84,820
Brill, Garland G Auto Technology Teacher, HS Chantilly High School $84,820
Cannon, Frank J Auto Technology Teacher, HS South County High $84,820
Bogan, John S Auto Technology Teacher, HS Edison High School $82,190
Plum, David Auto Technology Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $82,190
Prakash, Dominic Auto Technology Teacher, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $79,641
Maniatakas, Anthony J Auto Technology Teacher, HS Annandale High School $77,172
Payne, Gregory S Jr. Auto Technology Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $77,172
Rose, Lyman G Auto Technology Teacher, HS Centreville High School $77,172
Gray, Anthony W Auto Technology Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $71,817
Thompson, Paul E Jr. Auto Technology Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $70,214
Terrien, John R Auto Technology Teacher, HS Hayfield Secondary School $65,927
Scango, Joseph E Auto Technology Teacher, HS Marshall High School $61,702
Turley, David A Auto Technology Teacher, HS Lee High School $56,320
Falk, Erik J Auto Technology Teacher, HS Marshall High School $49,976

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: what are these jobs? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:36AM

Beeken, Margo M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $110,282
Blunder, Monique Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Brown, Joyce A Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Cahuantzi, Marilyn M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Darcy, Barbara E Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $110,282
Direnzo, Michelle M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $110,282
Massie, Jean A Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Tripp, Elise B Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
Gramando, Kathryn A Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
Kannengiesser, Susan-Lynn Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
Lopez, Stacie B Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
Pagliuca, Teri A Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
Clements, Dawn P Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $105,482
Duddridge, Lourrie-Lyn E Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $105,482
Oaks, Elizabeth C Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $102,909
Price, Tracy A Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $102,909
Aldrich, Madonna B Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $100,400
Fister, George R Jr. Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $97,951
Roman, Kristina M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $97,951
Waller, Michelle D Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $97,951
Clayton, Charles E Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $95,562
Prestipino, Angelina Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $95,562
Streeter, Sandra K Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $95,562
Hibshman, Cameron M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $92,779
Gorey, Bridget M Educational Specialist, Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $90,076

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Is this a hard job? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:54AM

Johnston, Claudia M Head Librarian, HS Falls Church High School $98,291
Pounds, Tina M Head Librarian, HS Edison High School $93,262
Powers, Kathleen F Head Librarian, HS Mount Vernon High School $93,262
Giuliani, Joyce K Head Librarian, HS Hayfield Secondary School $90,408
McNair, Ellen L Head Librarian, HS Stuart High School $87,835
McCarthy, Joan K Head Librarian, HS McLean High School $85,342
Singletary, Robyn P Head Librarian, HS Chantilly High School $82,928
Cappel, Florence K Head Librarian, HS Oakton High School $81,400
Graboyes, Alanna S Head Librarian, HS Marshall High School $81,400
Pfeiffer, Janet M Head Librarian, HS Annandale High School $81,400
Parsons, Kimberly P Head Librarian, HS Lee High School $78,326
Goodale, Margaret B Head Librarian, HS Bryant Alternative High School $76,792
Ferch-Jablonski, Carole A Head Librarian, HS West Springfield High School $76,123
Landis, John N Head Librarian, HS Madison High School $76,123
Voss, Ann O Head Librarian, HS Fairfax High School $76,123
Wolfe, Mary E Head Librarian, HS Herndon High School $74,595
Miller, Noel L Head Librarian, HS Centreville High School $73,129
Scott, Deborah N Head Librarian, HS Robinson Secondary School $72,465
Ferrick, Becca N Head Librarian, HS Mountain View Alternative High School $71,931
Meeks, Adriana M Head Librarian, HS West Potomac High School $64,590
Clark, Philip A Head Librarian, HS Langley High School $62,771
Strong, Emily R Head Librarian, HS South County High $62,536
Applin, Anne E Head Librarian, HS Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology $58,173
Morgan, Heather E Head Librarian, HS Woodson High School $57,846
Lesser, Joann T Head Librarian, HS Westfield High School $56,728

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz is a crying bitch ()
Date: November 23, 2012 12:38PM

Al Moniz, Wrote:
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> I am shallshocked. did you know they also have
> arabic????? AND THEY EARN ABOUT $90,000 DOLLARS.
> WTF FIRE THEM WE NEED TO SAVE MONEY AND LOWER OUR
> TAXES

Man you bitch and moan in every single one of your posts. As you stated, you make around 31K a year working at UPS Store... My wife and I paid over 70K in Federal taxes alone last year. So please be glad, there are people like us to make sure you have roads, schools, museums, etc. But wait... you don't want any of that, just LOWER taxes.

Fucking retard.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: GottaRun ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:17PM

Does band really matter? Wrote:
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> Burke, Patrick P Band Director, HS Hayfield
> Secondary School $93,800
> Hall, Melinda M Band Director, HS Woodson High
> School $91,069
> Panoff, Stephen E Band Director, HS Westfield High
> School $85,879
> Rice, Stephen H Band Director, HS West Potomac
> High School $85,879
> Seifried, Scott A Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $83,664
> May, Kelly D Band Director, HS Lee High
> School $83,405
> Bacz, Richard A Band Director, HS Mount Vernon
> High School $82,356
> Fore, Grayson W Band Director, HS South Lakes High
> School $81,006
> Loft, Andrew E Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $81,006
> Einuis, Laurence J Jr. Band Director, HS West
> Springfield High School $76,432
> Davenport, John H III Band Director, HS Falls
> Church High School $72,137
> Martin, Douglas B Band Director, HS Langley High
> School $72,137
> Thomas, Brian C Band Director, HS Stuart High
> School $72,137
> Vesilind, Paul J Band Director, HS Marshall High
> School $72,137
> Vanvalkenburg, James G Band Director, HS Oakton
> High School $71,926
> Johnson, Alan P Band Director, HS Fairfax High
> School $69,780
> Luley, Michael C Band Director, HS Lake Braddock
> Secondary School $69,669
> Hall, Melissa A Band Director, HS Centreville High
> School $66,181
> Cunningham, Christopher D Band Director,
> HS Herndon High School $65,620
> Schnepper, William J Band Director, HS Westfield
> High School $65,370
> Reeves, Katherine M Band Director, HS Edison High
> School $64,317
> Foreman, Adam W Band Director, HS Thomas Jefferson
> High School for Science and Technology $63,420
> Ward, Stephen M Band Director, HS South County
> High $60,286
> Ross, Robert A Band Director, HS Chantilly High
> School $57,971
> Jacoby, Kathleen G Band Director, HS Herndon High
> School $56,434
> Weise, Christopher M Band Director, HS McLean High
> School $56,434
> Hilkert, Adam K Band Director, HS Annandale High
> School $55,942
> Baker, Matthew C Band Director, HS Fairfax High
> School $54,541
> English, Gary D Jr. Band Director, HS South County
> High $52,050
> Singleton, Christopher J Band Director,
> HS Chantilly High School $50,077
> Tucker, James L III Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $46,707

Holy crap! My kid is in marching band, and, unless the high school directors are getting a stipend (and I don't know if they are or not), they are seriously underpaid. The hours that they put in beyond the school day is tremendous.

If they aren't getting a stipend, they are probably getting about $10 an hour when all is said and done.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: u need to work elsewhere ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:22PM

teach Wrote:
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> Well professor, When Walmart starts paying $82K at
> the returns counter, I might consider it.
>
> I just have to laugh at you bastards. If FCPS is
> such a great deal, why are we constantly hiring?
> Answer: FCPS has tremendous turnover. And it
> isn't all retirements, not by a long shot.
>
> Hundreds of young and non-retirement eligible
> teachers quit every year. Why, because it is a
> royal pain in the ass, and with their educations,
> they can do better elsewhere.
>
> I know the GED crowd is jealous of our salaries.
> I'm sure they must seem enormous compared to their
> own. All I can say is, you should have pursued
> higher education.


I thought teachers were smart. So when you started and they told you the salary was 48k a year just how much did you think you would really be paid. You knew the salary going in so shut the hell up. You dont like the job quit, no loss.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: go take a cig break ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:23PM

and I doubt Walmart would hire you, their employees are required to work twelve months a year not nine.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: sharon bulsnot ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:25PM

"If FCPS is
> such a great deal, why are we constantly hiring?"

because it is a bloated mess. admins all over the place. relatives and friends of relatives fill the system. you know its true

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You know it's true ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:27PM

sharon bulsnot Wrote:
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> "If FCPS is
> > such a great deal, why are we constantly
> hiring?"
>
> because it is a bloated mess. admins all over the
> place. relatives and friends of relatives fill the
> system. you know its true

Saying "you know it's true" makes it a fact. Especially if you can't use the proper contraction of it is.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: UhHuh ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:28PM

what are these jobs? Wrote:
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> Beeken, Margo M Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $110,282
>
> Blunder, Monique Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
> Brown, Joyce A Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
> Cahuantzi, Marilyn M Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
>
> Darcy, Barbara E Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $110,282
>
> Direnzo, Michelle M Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills
> Center $110,282
> Massie, Jean A Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
> Tripp, Elise B Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $110,282
> Gramando, Kathryn A Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
>
> Kannengiesser, Susan-Lynn Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
>
> Lopez, Stacie B Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
> Pagliuca, Teri A Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $108,119
> Clements, Dawn P Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $105,482
> Duddridge, Lourrie-Lyn E Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills
> Center $105,482
> Oaks, Elizabeth C Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $102,909
>
> Price, Tracy A Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $102,909
> Aldrich, Madonna B Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $100,400
> Fister, George R Jr. Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $97,951
> Roman, Kristina M Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $97,951
> Waller, Michelle D Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $97,951
> Clayton, Charles E Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $95,562
> Prestipino, Angelina Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Virginia Hills
> Center $95,562
> Streeter, Sandra K Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Virginia Hills Center $95,562
> Hibshman, Cameron M Educational Specialist,
> Pyramid Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $92,779
> Gorey, Bridget M Educational Specialist, Pyramid
> Procedural Support Fairfax Ridge $90,076

These are people (usually with special education experience) whose job it is to ensure that students with special needs are educated and given accomodations according to their IEP's and to provide support to parents and families when that does not happen.

Go ahead...flame away about how much of a waste of tax dollars that is...and I will sit here and be thankful/hopeful that you are not and/or never will be a parent of a special needs student, because they deserve better.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: whoooaaaa ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:28PM

Jackson, Deborah R Special Projects Administrator, Teacher Evaluation Gatehouse Administration Center I $145,216



Isn't this the FORMER/RETIRED principal from Mclean HS?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: klock ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:31PM

If I was in charge I would clean out these pampered babies. Same old PR everyday about how valuable they are yet they only work nine months a year and demand equal pay to twelve month workers. You teachers need to shut up and be happy no one is on to your scam.
You dont want to work there then quit, no use making the rest of us listen to your hard luck story. You wont be missed.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: stop the bs ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:33PM

"Go ahead...flame away about how much of a waste of tax dollars that is...and I will sit here and be thankful/hopeful that you are not and/or never will be a parent of a special needs student, because they deserve better"

so pay for the extra care yourself and not make the rest of us pony up the bucks, then I will believe how much you really care. just generous with other peoples money I suspect

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hardly worth a dime ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:36PM

Kerr, Stephen P School Investigation Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $114,707





The school district isn’t talking, beyond a statement that said Lanigan turned down a settlement offer in November 2011, which did not mention that he’d been asking for the money since July 2010. But the real reason that Fairfax authorities stonewalled Lanigan is an 11-page “Investigative Report” by school district investigator Stephen Kerr, written a month after Lanigan’s acquittal. The report concluded that Lanigan — a hugely popular gym teacher, soccer coach and father of three -- was still an unsavory fellow, he just happened to be found not guilty by a Fairfax County jury.

Kerr’s report was riddled with inaccuracies and incomplete information (we’ll get to that in a minute), but it was circulated to top Fairfax school officials. So when Lanigan came to the district and asked that his legal fees be reimbursed, the district didn’t even bother with a reply. They just ignored him. Forced him to hire a lawyer. Then spent $141,000 of taxpayer money.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: he gets promoted??? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:42PM

Arrington, Timothy Director, Cluster Gatehouse Administration Center I $110,216



Mr.Arington South Lakes personal Harraser Posted by: South lakes hates Mr. Arington ()
Date: May 21, 2009 08:12PM


This guy is crazy! He tries to get into Student personal Business and its so unprofessional. Has anyone else had any problems with this guy? I'm just curious, My children and other parents have told me How he is harrasing his students taking there phones and calling people on them, reading there text messages and answering there calls. He also black mails students behind closed doors saying hell give them a punishment for something he could never prove so they will give him information or rat out other kids. Its insane to have this in our public school system, it makes our kids feel they enter a hostile enviroment everyday.



Re: Mr.Arington South Lakes personal Harraser Posted by: Anonymous Jr ()
Date: May 21, 2009 08:28PM


I am a SLHS junior. We all know that Mr Arrington suspended Josh Anderson and recommended him for an expulsion hearing because he smelled pot in Josh's car, which led Josh to tragically commit suicide. Last year, he caught me after I bought weed in the school's bathroom. He suspended me for 10 days and recommended me for expulsion. The first day of my suspension, he called and told me to come back to school. That's one example of his "selected punishment". He has also read my texts and looked at pictured on my phone. Earlier this year when the school police officer brought a condom he found on the floor to Mr Arrington's office, Mr Arrington tossed it to me and said I could use it more than he could. His acts are extremely inappropriate, unproffessional, and bias.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Where phones, where text msgs? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 01:53PM

he gets promoted??? Wrote:
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> Arrington, Timothy Director, Cluster Gatehouse
> Administration Center I $110,216
>
>
>
> Mr.Arington South Lakes personal Harraser Posted
> by: South lakes hates Mr. Arington ()
> Date: May 21, 2009 08:12PM
>
>
> This guy is crazy! He tries to get into Student
> personal Business and its so unprofessional. Has
> anyone else had any problems with this guy? I'm
> just curious, My children and other parents have
> told me How he is harrasing his students taking
> there phones and calling people on them, reading
> there text messages and answering there calls. He

Where phones, where text messages, where calls?





> also black mails students behind closed doors
> saying hell give them a punishment for something
> he could never prove so they will give him
> information or rat out other kids. Its insane to
> have this in our public school system, it makes
> our kids feel they enter a hostile enviroment
> everyday.
>

Perhaps you are just bitter that you failed to learn proper english?

There, They're and Their. Find out how those three words work.


>
>
> Re: Mr.Arington South Lakes personal Harraser
> Posted by: Anonymous Jr ()
> Date: May 21, 2009 08:28PM
>
>
> I am a SLHS junior. We all know that Mr Arrington
> suspended Josh Anderson and recommended him for an
> expulsion hearing because he smelled pot in Josh's
> car, which led Josh to tragically commit suicide.
> Last year, he caught me after I bought weed in the
> school's bathroom. He suspended me for 10 days and
> recommended me for expulsion. The first day of my
> suspension, he called and told me to come back to
> school. That's one example of his "selected
> punishment". He has also read my texts and looked
> at pictured on my phone. Earlier this year when
> the school police officer brought a condom he
> found on the floor to Mr Arrington's office, Mr
> Arrington tossed it to me and said I could use it
> more than he could. His acts are extremely
> inappropriate, unproffessional, and bias.


If your kid is dumb enough to purchase or possess illegal substances on school grounds, you have no room to bitch about the school system.

You have to be an idiot to use, possess, sell or purchase drugs on school grounds. Do that shit before or after school and leave it at home.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Noonan's replacement--joke ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:02PM

Presidio, Sloan J Assistant Superintendent, Instructional Services Fairfax Ridge $157,123
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Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) Superintendent Jack D. Dale has named Sloan Presidio, who currently serves as director of educational programs for the Tigard-Tualatin School District in Tigard, Ore., assistant superintendent for instructional services, effective July 1. Presidio will replace Peter Noonan, who has been named superintendent of City of Fairfax Schools.
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Number of Schools
. Elementary.(grades.K-5)..................... 10
. Middle.School.(grades.6-8)................. 3
. High.School.(grades.9-12)..................... 2
. Alternative.School.(grades.6-12)........ 1
. Online.School.(grades.6-12).................. 1
Enrollment (est.)
. Elementary..........................................5,503
. Middle.School..................................... 2,895
. High.School.......................................... 3,971
. TOTAL.................................................. 12,369
Staff (full-time equivalent)
Teachers
. Elementary..............................................253
. Middle.School..........................................133
. High.School.............................................. 174
. District-wide...............................................17
. TOTAL........................................................ 577
Classified Staff.(secretaries,.teacher..
aides,.custodians,.cooks,.etc.)............ 319.5
Administrators................................................ .31

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So, we hired this clown from a school district of 12,000 students.

Unreal.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: stoooopid choice ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:15PM

West Linn-Wilsonville School Board announces two finalists in superintendent search
Published: Monday, February 21, 2011,

Sloan J. Presidio
Sloan currently works in the Tigard-Tualatin School District where he is Director of Educational Programs. Previously, he was the principal of Hillsboro High School for four years and an administrator in various roles in the Eugene School District for seven years. He has taught in Alaska and California. His prior employment also includes time as an attorney in private practice in Washington, D.C. and Legislative Counsel for the Oregon State Legislature. Presidio has a Doctor of Education and a Master of Education degree from the University of Oregon. He also has a law degree from the University of Oregon.

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Let me summarize, for those who can't follow this:


FCPS (Dale) picks this Sloan character to HEAD OUR INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT which is probabley THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB in FCPS.

He picks a guy who has experience running a teeney tiny school district in OREGON---12k students is the size of Lake Braddock, Robinson and Westfield, guys. We have 200 schools with 185000 kids.

He is hired in July even though this guy clearly has higher aspirations---he applied and DIDNT GET the SUP job at this other apthetically small school district.

WHY THE HELL ARE WE PAYING THIS INEXPERIENCED DOOFUS $157k?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: English is fun for mentals ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:19PM

stoooopid choice Wrote:
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>
> FCPS (Dale) picks this Sloan character to HEAD OUR
> INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT which is
> probabley THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB in FCPS.
>
> He picks a guy who has experience running a teeney
> tiny school district in OREGON---12k students is
> the size of Lake Braddock, Robinson and Westfield,
> guys. We have 200 schools with 185000 kids.
>
> He is hired in July even though this guy clearly
> has higher aspirations---he applied and DIDNT GET
> the SUP job at this other apthetically small
> school district.
>
> WHY THE HELL ARE WE PAYING THIS INEXPERIENCED
> DOOFUS $157k?


Maybe your kids will learn to write better than you did. That would be money well spent, don't you think, probably?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TWO YEARS of experience btw ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:21PM

Tigard-Tualatin School District hires Hillsboro High School Principal Sloan Presidio for job
Published: Thursday, February 25, 2010

Hillsboro High School Principal Sloan Presidio has been tapped for a high-ranking administrative position in the Tigard-Tualatin School District.

Presidio will take over as the district's director of coordinated education services and will oversee programs for middle and high schools, English language learners, talented and gifted students and Title I reading, math and writing. His job is effective July 1.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: well lookee here ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:31PM

Wardinski, Paul A Director III , Professional & Life Skills Fairfax Ridge $134,244



Here is the former West Springfield HS principal still collecting $134K

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: typical teacher ()
Date: November 23, 2012 02:56PM

As a teacher I cannot afford to live in the county. I know the thousands of other people I see on 95 each morning northbound do not live where they work either but this is different its me we are talking about. I deserve to earn at least 100k to start.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz, ()
Date: November 23, 2012 03:13PM

FOIA Wrote:
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> The salaries of public employees are subject to
> Freedom of Information Act requests. There is no
> charge since this information has already been
> furnished to the public.
>
> Simply send an email to Branyann? Reeves or
> someone in FOIA office (see FCPS website) and be
> sure to ask for the excel spreadsheet version. You
> should get it within 5 business days or less.


Thanks!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teach ()
Date: November 23, 2012 04:08PM

What website posts these salaries?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: transportation ()
Date: November 23, 2012 04:22PM

teach Wrote:
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> What website posts these salaries?

Yeah, I'd like to see what the big muckety-mucks in Transportation make.

Like Farbry, Parker, Grimm, etc.

These are some very marginal people and I'll gag if they make six figures, or even high five figures.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: CuriousIour ()
Date: November 23, 2012 04:38PM

What's a principal make? Does it vary on the type of school, elementery bs high school? Can a high school principal jump to an elementery school and make the same money or do they have to take a cut?

With all the vacation, days off, etc I am guess an elementy school principal is making aout 80k.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TheDude ()
Date: November 23, 2012 04:48PM

They should be paying those people $200,000 minimum to watch your little monsters.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: barf away ()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:31PM

Farbry, Linda P Director III, Transportation Services Lorton Center $125,270
Parker, Carl T Assistant Director, Transportation Services Lorton Center $124,091
Italiano, Thomas A Coordinator III, Transportation Planning Lorton Center $119,307
Waymire, Brian C Transportation Operations Specialist Lorton Center $102,909
Jenkins, James D Functional Application Specialist II Lorton Center $98,939
Grimm, Debra L Coordinator II, Transportation Lorton Center $97,447
Rider, David L Functional Application Specialist II Lorton Center $91,874
Campanaro, Sandra L Coordinator II, Transportation Lorton Center $88,319
Smith, Kurt M Manager, Transportation Operations Lorton Center $84,495
Millan, Cathy Manager, Transportation Operations Lorton Center $78,877
Gellner, Jamie L Support Intern II Lorton Center $78,488
Simpson, Christina L Manager, Transportation Operations Lorton Center $76,210
Nichols, Deborah F Transportation Supervisor Lorton Center $74,900
Witsman, Sherry L Manager, Transportation Operations Lorton Center $73,278
Ladd, Sherrie L Transportation Supervisor Lorton Center $73,073
Walter, Pamela R Manager, Transportation Operations Lorton Center $70,460
Gordon, Donna M Transportation Operations Technician - Bi-Weekly Lorton Center $70,429
Johnson, Elizabeth D Transportation Operations Technician - Bi-Weekly Lorton Center $70,429
Myers, Susan L Transportation Operations Technician - Bi-Weekly Lorton Center $70,429
Shultzaberger, Deborah L Transportation Operations Technician - Monthly Lorton Center $70,429
Smith, Bobbie J Transportation Operations Technician - Monthly Lorton Center $70,429

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:43PM

Man...Im happy for these people...Teachers have always been known to be underpaid. Somebody finally took care of them...not to mention, they have to deal with ragedy children who lack respect. Good for them.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Pay raises are in order ()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:55PM

I'm going to the next board meeting and I'm going to suggest these people should get raises.

The only people who believe these are outlandish salaries are either low-skilled hourly wage employees, or they grew up in a backwater town where the highest income was around the national average.

This is not an average area, those salaries are barely keeping up with the cost of living in this area.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Billw ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:22PM

I agree some of these teachers are over paid, there would be less need for all these teachers if the government would do it's job and send the spanish packing back across the border.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: end game? ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:34PM

Follow the pattern here....

People need to earn a "competitive wage" because it is so expensive to live here....housing prices are so expensive because the salaries are so high.......people need to earn a "competitive wage" because it is so expensive to live here.....



At some point the bubble will burst bigtime----and make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Outlandish? ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:39PM

REAL cost of FLES Wrote:
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> Barth, Mei-Jean K Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Shrevewood Elementary School $83,664
> Kearney, Bi Bi B Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Wolftrap Elementary School $79,251
> Cook, Lynn L Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill
> Elementary School $59,988
> Yuan, Grace Y Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Providence Elementary School $54,722
> Leung, Pik K Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $54,213
> Gift, Pu C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Clermont
> Elementary School $53,262
> Pearson, Kuan-Chen Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Fairview Elementary School $53,262
> Su, Ping C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Providence
> Elementary School $53,262
> Uang, Yeong-Tsuey Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak
> Hill Elementary School $53,262
> Coyne, Madeline Y Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School $52,636
> Chin, Hou-Dan Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin
> Meadows Elementary School $52,374
> Chen, Yu Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak Hill
> Elementary School $45,884
> Feng, Jing Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill
> Elementary School $32,685
> Chen, Yuwei Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin
> Meadows Elementary School $28,778
> Chen, Agnes M Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Wolftrap Elementary School $25,369
> Hung, Beesha Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $22,942

Seriously? You think these salaries are "outlandish"? That teacher making #83k probably has been working at least 25 years. Those that are in the $50k range and lower don't seem "outlandish" for this area.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz, ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:43PM

I emailed her on Friday and today and 1pm she emailed me saying she wanted my addresses. I emailed her my addresses and called the HR number and she was not there at the time. I wonder if she does anything at work.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Your point? ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:46PM

more FLES crap Wrote:
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> Kessler, Gertrude German Language Teacher,
> ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $90,569
> Jones, Donna M German Language Teacher, ES Orange
> Hunt Elementary School $79,251
> Klerner-Eckenrode, Eva E German Language Teacher,
> ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $69,253
> Schonberger, Robert S German Language Teacher,
> ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $69,253
> Glaser, Annette S German Language Teacher,
> ES Orange Hunt Elementary School $52,374

Whether or not you think FCPS should have immersion classes, these teachers still teach students as any other teacher would. I don't see where these salaries are high. Those teachers making $69k have probably been teaching 17 years or so. A lot of people I know in this area wouldn't do that job for that $.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: $110,000 ()
Date: November 26, 2012 04:50PM

County Taxpayer Wrote:
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> In addition to the "lifetime" benefits that these
> people enjoy, please don't forget that many of
> these employees are being paid for a mere 9 months
> of work per year.
>
> $110,000 for 9 months of work isn't too shabby,
> considering you'd have to make $146,000 in a
> "real" job to earn as much.

That number must be coming off of an administrator list, because no teachers make that much.

Do lifetime benefits include paying $1,100 a month for health insurance when they retire?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: show me ()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:06PM

No friggin way FCPS retirees pay $1100 monthly for health insurance.

NO WAY.

Let's also remember that many of them need health insurance because they are fortunate to retire at 55 before they are eligible for medicare.

The rest of us will work till age 70.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: your tax money-not mine ()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:08PM

Pay raises are in order Wrote:
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> I'm going to the next board meeting and I'm going
> to suggest these people should get raises.
>
> The only people who believe these are outlandish
> salaries are either low-skilled hourly wage
> employees, or they grew up in a backwater town
> where the highest income was around the national
> average.
>
> This is not an average area, those salaries are
> barely keeping up with the cost of living in this
> area.


Ok, pal, if you want to be generous and overpay these public workers--you write the check to the county.

Don't expect us to finance your stupidity.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: We financed your's ()
Date: November 26, 2012 05:19PM

your tax money-not mine Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pay raises are in order Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm going to the next board meeting and I'm
> going
> > to suggest these people should get raises.
> >
> > The only people who believe these are
> outlandish
> > salaries are either low-skilled hourly wage
> > employees, or they grew up in a backwater town
> > where the highest income was around the
> national
> > average.
> >
> > This is not an average area, those salaries are
> > barely keeping up with the cost of living in
> this
> > area.
>
>
> Ok, pal, if you want to be generous and overpay
> these public workers--you write the check to the
> county.
>
> Don't expect us to finance your stupidity.


Why shouldn't I expect that? We financed your stupidity, obviously.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: strat ()
Date: November 26, 2012 07:09PM

The ROI on higher education is becoming more questionable with every passing day. Not that the academy is without its value, but let's not kid ourselves. There's a reason Peter Thiel is offering college students $200K to drop out and start new ventures when they have good ideas.

The incentives are so skewed, and often additionally muddled through federal funding that the desire to please the customer is withering away. Universities are becoming non-controversial places to practice the skills of surviving in bureaucracy, as if that should be a life goal for anyone.

I have and continue to work with research scientists and have spun companies out from research found in university labs. There's a reason that many schools aren't good at technology transfer: The basic concepts of business and economics seem to have been left by the wayside.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Health insurance ()
Date: November 26, 2012 08:43PM

show me Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No friggin way FCPS retirees pay $1100 monthly for
> health insurance.
>
> NO WAY.
>
> Let's also remember that many of them need health
> insurance because they are fortunate to retire at
> 55 before they are eligible for medicare.
>
> The rest of us will work till age 70.

It's pretty pricey if the retiree has a family on the plan. About $1,300 a month depenending on the plan. For a retiree + one, it looks like it costs between $900-$1,100 a month. For an individual, it's between $500-600 a month.

http://www.fcps.edu/hr/benefits/publications/2013/Retiree2013ratechart.pdf

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fitz ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:08PM

When will the teachers union speak out about all the top heavy admin jobs that do nothing but create more work for the teachers. The majority are double dipping from the county and are related to the high ups by blood or marriage. The nepotism that goes on is outlandish. Maybe one of the teachers that post on here can explain this practice and why they remain silent on it. I had to visit the Gatehouse and saw nothing but people playing on the computers shopping, others walking the halls passing the time of day. Little to no work being done.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Crazy time ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:23PM

It's crazy to think many assistant principals and principals never once taught in the classroom. They sneak into their positions through other avenues. Disgraceful.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Conjecture Junction ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:28PM

Crazy time Wrote:
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> It's crazy to think many assistant principals and
> principals never once taught in the classroom.
> They sneak into their positions through other
> avenues. Disgraceful.

Do you have proof, or even some sort of anecdotal evidence?

Or is it just something you know must be true?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Crazy time ()
Date: November 26, 2012 09:31PM

I know for a fact some teacher assistants who help teachers and are not teachers have risen to assistant principals and above.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: dih ()
Date: November 26, 2012 10:29PM

Conjecture Junction Wrote:
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> Crazy time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's crazy to think many assistant principals
> and
> > principals never once taught in the classroom.
> > They sneak into their positions through other
> > avenues. Disgraceful.
>
> Do you have proof, or even some sort of anecdotal
> evidence?
>
> Or is it just something you know must be true?



it always amazes me the amount of people whonever worked in education that know so muxh about it



proof, anedotal evidencs,



gym teacher asshole,.....

How is it that they can critique real lessons?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Never learned in a classroom? ()
Date: November 26, 2012 10:53PM

dih Wrote:
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> Conjecture Junction Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Crazy time Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's crazy to think many assistant principals
> > and
> > > principals never once taught in the
> classroom.
> > > They sneak into their positions through other
> > > avenues. Disgraceful.
> >
> > Do you have proof, or even some sort of
> anecdotal
> > evidence?
> >
> > Or is it just something you know must be true?
>
>
>
> it always amazes me the amount of people whonever
> worked in education that know so muxh about it
>
>
>
> proof, anedotal evidencs,
>
>
>
> gym teacher asshole,.....
>
> How is it that they can critique real lessons?


But people who obviously never set foot in an English class can critique teachers and Principals? That's fucked up.

If you can't even write, spell or form a logical sentence, you should shut the fuck up about teachers. Obviously you are too uneducated to be taken seriously.

Unlike you, a Gym teacher who rises to become Principal has a bachelor's degree, and most likely a Master of Education or something similar.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bobmocofrommojo ()
Date: November 26, 2012 11:20PM

Do you know what "outlandish" means? It appears you do not.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Good point ()
Date: November 26, 2012 11:28PM

Bobmocofrommojo Wrote:
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> Do you know what "outlandish" means? It appears
> you do not.


That's a good point. The definition that comes up when i click on it in Chrome says:

out·land·ish
Looking or sounding bizarre or unfamiliar


I've been asking the OP if they are new to this area and didn't understand the cost of living. Maybe they actually do know what outlandish means, and these salaries are just unfamiliar to them.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: yo ()
Date: November 27, 2012 02:08PM

What qualifications, or even research have you done to make these judgements on a teacher's instructional capabilities? Teachers start out at significantly less pay than many other fields. Also, most teachers I know work during the summer because we have to. Education is the one field that everybody has an opinion on but few have done any research or know anything about other than what limited experience they had as a student. Empty unfunded mandates with meaningless evaluation methods that do not inform our instruction are what choke the life, creativity, and effectiveness out of the system. What pedagogical background do any of the politicians who come up with this crap have? we need to fix the system. Are we to guess from these posts that teachers are not worth competetive pay? Most of us do not get it anyway.
If you can read this, thank a teacher asshole.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: another definition ()
Date: November 27, 2012 05:57PM

For the dimbulb who pronounced the definition of outlandish....there ane MANY definitions of words, sweetcakes.


: exceeding proper or reasonable limits or standards

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: They didn't claim otherwise ()
Date: November 27, 2012 06:54PM

another definition Wrote:
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> For the dimbulb who pronounced the definition of
> outlandish....there ane MANY definitions of words,
> sweetcakes.
>
>
> : exceeding proper or reasonable limits or
> standards


The person who posted that didn't claim otherwise:

"That's a good point. The definition that comes up when i click on it in Chrome says:

out·land·ish
Looking or sounding bizarre or unfamiliar"

and

"Maybe they actually do know what outlandish means, and these salaries are just unfamiliar to them."


The existence of other definitions doesn't seem to change what they were saying.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: r_kelly ()
Date: November 27, 2012 08:48PM

hey clouseau,
maybe figure out who is setting these salaries, and grandfathering them in when the school board is letting the lame duck write the budget for the new year. . . maybe look into that dumbass.

Also, outlandish means beyond the expected or normal. like the salaries. read a book, read a mother fuckin book

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: a ()
Date: November 27, 2012 09:59PM

Lindsey, Lawrence L
After-School Specialist
Irving Middle School
$85,581

After school works 15 hours a week,

Yarborough, Terrence E
Principal, Middle School
Sandburg Middle School
$103,358

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: anyone l Moniz, ()
Date: November 28, 2012 12:56PM

Anyone that wants that information just email -- bareaves@fcps.edu
who earns $65,000 and doesn't so much work. In the email tell her you want to know all the employees Salaries. She will need your address just to verify your name and such. She will response to you between a 1-2 days. You can also go to the Gatehouse office and ask to speak to her about this mater.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: matt 703 ()
Date: November 28, 2012 02:46PM

A couple points: some of these folks, like the music teachers making 90k, have probably been working there for 30 years. They deserve what they are making.

On the other hand, there are WAY too many ADMINISTRATORS involved in FCPS. If they found a way to cut down on those folks, maybe FCPS could afford to give those teachers a raise!!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Aspiring Teacher ()
Date: November 28, 2012 03:36PM

You know what, Im changing my major to Physics w/minor in Math. Just finish H.S. I go to NOVA, started in the summer, but always been keeping a job working full time weekends and late evenings. Can't stand my low wage service job, but I'd make 4 times what I make now, after I transfer to Mason in Jan '13 and graduate in a few years with Physics/Math degree combo. I have to work, my parents make too much money for me to get much financial aid, and worse off is that they won't give hardly any money so I'm forced to work to continue my education; they feel I have to contribute to my education costs. That's fine. Yet, they say a degree in Physics with minor in Math, and you bypass most, if not all, the teacher exams. Just think, what I can make in about 3 more years. I am not really locked into Fairfax County, as both Montgomery County and the striking school district in Chicago make more money than here in Fairfax.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: A big Deal!? ()
Date: November 28, 2012 03:46PM

Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries

Posted by: such crapola ()

Date: November 23, 2012 10:47AM


Yea, ok buddy, the pay and benefits at FCPS suck soooooooooooooooo bad that they are flooded with about 10,000 applications for jobs EVERY YEAR.

If the pay is so awful than why do so many people want to work there?__________________

THose same 10,000 applicants also send out another 100 applications elsewhere. Every person offered a job at FCPS doesn't accept the offer. It's not infrequent that the 1st applicant offered declines the job.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Truf ()
Date: November 28, 2012 03:49PM

People think they want to be teachers until they actually do it. They like the idea of getting their summers off, of shaping the minds of America's youth and all that crap. Then, the realization: they are glorified babysitters and get paid low wages. They think Fairfax pays well since it is such an affluent community, but it doesn't.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: whew ()
Date: November 29, 2012 03:05PM

Fairfax County Public Schools is also projecting a $94 million budget gap of its own if it doesn’t get any additional funding from the county, primarily due to projected enrollment growth, according to Superintendent Jack Dale. Any increase in schools spending would mean more cuts in other areas of the county budget.



Thanks goodness we gave those raises out last year before this bad news hit.

There was absolutely NO WAY our elected officials could have predicted this shortfall---NO WAY.

It makes sense to give raises instead of building a reserve.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: VOT ()
Date: November 29, 2012 03:46PM

Actually the board did forsee part of the situation last year. But the new board was unwilling to make a difficult decision and are now going to pay the price with regard to the VRS debt. The next two years are going to be grim. Just for the record many of the positions that are listed above are eleven or twelve-month positions hence the higher salaries.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: % ()
Date: November 29, 2012 05:59PM

I think the raise last year was 1%, but I'd have to double check. That's after a few years of pay freezes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: 1% equals???? ()
Date: November 29, 2012 06:13PM

I believe the comp increases came out to $47 million---money we clearly don't have.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Mouse in my pocket ()
Date: November 29, 2012 06:22PM

1% equals???? Wrote:
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> I believe the comp increases came out to $47
> million---money we clearly don't have.


"money we clearly don't have"


You on the board?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: % ()
Date: November 29, 2012 06:47PM

1% equals???? Wrote:
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> I believe the comp increases came out to $47
> million---money we clearly don't have.

I understand. It's a lot of money overall, but 1% COLA is not a big raise per employee.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: in the know over here ()
Date: December 01, 2012 08:58AM

The budget shortage could be cut in half in a day if all the inept administrators who have been moved to central office jobs would be terminated. Instead of publicly airing their non-criminal gaffs and the subsequent civil law suits for firing them, the school system continues to model the federal government and get bigger and bigger.

There are six people who oversee my discipline. I cannot list one thing that their office has done to help me in my classroom in the past five years. They need to be Gordon Geckoed out the door.

Now, I will say that the good folks in the elementary classrooms are underpaid. They work with the same group of 30+ youngsters all day.

Middle school and high school teachers get off easy with a 90 minute planning period everyday when they have no true IPR.

Also, most of the engineers are grossly underpaid. The the custodians are not compensated well either.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: look inside if you can ()
Date: December 01, 2012 10:08AM

The problem is that the people who decide who gets cut are the people who are the highest paid employees in the system (the ones in central office). They certainly aren't going to cut their own salaries or staffs, yet it's okay to cut the custodial staff, clerical staff, etc. out in the schools. It's okay to raise the class sizes and make the teachers and parents (and kids---gee, aren't they the reason we exist?) suffer. Meanwhile, they sit in a building with locked doors at every turn. Yeah, there might be an angry parent, teacher, or kid out there.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: and ()
Date: December 01, 2012 05:16PM

k

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: They ()
Date: December 01, 2012 06:27PM

You should yell at them at the next school board metting

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: centreville ()
Date: December 03, 2012 11:45PM

bump

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: westfield ()
Date: December 03, 2012 11:57PM

centreville Wrote:
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> bump


rail

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ricky Ticky ()
Date: December 03, 2012 11:59PM

You should take a look at what some govt Defense contractors make for doing nothing.
These salaries do not compare.
Plus given the fact most of the higher salaries are after 25+ years.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tax payer ()
Date: December 04, 2012 06:52PM

I just emailed LCPS,PWCS, and Alexandira City and asked them to send them their. so we can compare to see who earns more.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bitter Resentment ()
Date: December 04, 2012 07:02PM

Tax payer Wrote:
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> I just emailed LCPS,PWCS, and Alexandira City and
> asked them to send them their. so we can compare
> to see who earns more.

Focus on other workers and resent people who make a little more than you.

Keep your mind off of the wealthy politicians and corporate class.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Know ()
Date: December 04, 2012 09:54PM


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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: laaaazy teacher ()
Date: December 05, 2012 11:42AM

teaching HS or MS is a god damn joke. the hardest part is showing up on time.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: gt3 ()
Date: December 06, 2012 08:16AM

What would you say to a teacher who took medical leave the day before students came back in September because she is unbalanced, and she sure is. Came back the next year part time as a math resource teacher, accomplished nothing, rarely showed up for work and this went on for two years. Then this year is a part time ESOL teacher and rarely meets with students. The administration has not done a thing about the problem and we are left to try and explain to parents in conferences why their children are not being seen by the specialists. It is a sad day when some of us are working so hard and this person is getting paid to do nothing.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hs teacher ()
Date: December 06, 2012 10:01AM

There seems to be some misunderstandings on this discussion...
First of all, to be an administrator requires the appropriate degree (masters) and license. You cannot go from IA to admin without a hell of a lot of steps in between.
Second, to suggest that high school teachers are less hardworking then elementary teachers is ridiculous. You simply cannot compare the two positions, because they are so different. While elementary communicates with 30 parents at a time, high school deals with 150. While elementary has to prepare more lessons per day (many high school teachers repeat a lesson or two a day), they don't have to write letters of recommendation and many don't coach or sponsor activities (which by the way are not all accompanied by a stipend). If you ask most elementary teachers they will tell you they could never do the job of a high school teacher. If you ask most high school teachers they will tell you they could never do the job of an elementary school teacher. Either way, no good can come of teachers bashing each other. Let's be real, enough of that comes from the community.
Third (and finally though I could go on forever), there are bad employees in every profession. There are many teachers who have dedicated their lives to students, often to the detriment of time with their own family. I've been teaching for 12 years and spend, on average, 55+ hours a week on my job. I sponsor activities because the students want them. I plan lessons to accommodate the incredibly diverse range of students in my classroom. I make the effort to get to know each of my students (I have 150 just in my classes) and to keep constant lines of communication open. And I am not the exception, there are MANY teachers who do the same thing quietly day in and day out. We don't expect to make millions, we expect to be able to live in the community we serve. To say we got a 1% raise is laughable. We are employees of a step-increase system, whereby we are supposed to get a minimal increase in salary each year (not even accounting for COLA). We were denied that for several years and only this year have seen a small increase in salary. We will never recover the pay that was lost to us. We should be able to look at the pay scale today and know what we will be making 3 years from now (hoping, of course, that if a COLA is warranted that it is given). But that is no longer the case. It is what it is and most teachers continue to work just as hard to a community that appears ungrateful most of the time. For those of you on here who seem to believe that schools and all who are associated with them are evil and always out to "get kids," I'm sorry you have such a negative perspective on life and really hope that you will find some kind of peace. Living like that must be exhausting.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz, ()
Date: December 06, 2012 07:06PM

Great news. I am about to get the salaries from LCPS AND DCPS .
Mr. Moniz,
We have the salaries in an existing report, I will check on the other request.


Wayde B. Byard
Public Information Officer
Loudoun County Public Schools
571-252-1040
Wayde.Byard@lcps.org
>>> Albert MONIZ < 2/6/2012 4:28 PM >>>
Mr. Byard:



.
Attachments:
DCPS.jpg

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You're bad at making money ()
Date: December 07, 2012 03:11PM

I graduated high school less than 10 years ago and I'm outearning some of my teachers I found on that list. Work harder shithead, I say we pay them more.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al m. ()
Date: December 07, 2012 03:19PM

Search, Katharine M
Art Teacher, HS
Fairfax High School
$36,133
she only has 1st period and 2nd period. Lets says she works 2 hours a day for 180 days. that will means she works for 360 hours. $100.00 dollars an hour. and she gets off work at 9am so she can get a real full time job and earn about 200k

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tgb ()
Date: December 07, 2012 06:35PM

Al m. Wrote:
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> Search, Katharine M
> Art Teacher, HS
> Fairfax High School
> $36,133
> she only has 1st period and 2nd period. Lets
> says she works 2 hours a day for 180 days. that
> will means she works for 360 hours. $100.00
> dollars an hour. and she gets off work at 9am so
> she can get a real full time job and earn about
> 200k

How do you know she gets off work at 9am? How long has she been working for the school system? Maybe she is contracted for 1/2 a day. If she's been with the system for 20 years or so, that salary would be about right for half-time.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: no way DC delivers the goods ()
Date: December 07, 2012 06:59PM

I'd be shocked if DCPS responded to the FOIA request.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: latest data from FCPS HR Dept ()
Date: December 07, 2012 07:04PM

Based on the latest FCPS HR Report, FCPS pays a lot more for principals than other area school districts:

Principal High School Local School Average $ 111,711
FCPS3 $ 115,156


Principal Middle School Local School Average $ 96,234
FCPS $ 110,719

Principal Elem School Local School Average $ 92,175
FCPS $ 106,455

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al m. ()
Date: December 07, 2012 07:58PM

I hope they do. I hope they don't want me to pay for it.

no way DC delivers the goods Wrote:
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> I'd be shocked if DCPS responded to the FOIA
> request.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Wasteful spending ()
Date: December 08, 2012 12:10AM

latest data from FCPS HR Dept Wrote:
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> Based on the latest FCPS HR Report, FCPS pays a
> lot more for principals than other area school
> districts:
>
> Principal High School Local School Average $
> 111,711
> FCPS3 $ 115,156
>
>
> Principal Middle School Local School Average $
> 96,234
> FCPS $ 110,719
>
> Principal Elem School Local School Average $
> 92,175
> FCPS $ 106,455


Turner, Tyrone N
Pest Controller Supervisor
Sideburn Support Center
$71,837

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al Moniz is a job creator! ()
Date: December 08, 2012 01:09AM

Wasteful spending Wrote:
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>
>
> Turner, Tyrone N
> Pest Controller Supervisor
> Sideburn Support Center
> $71,837


Looks like they hired a guy to take care of Al Moniz and all of his FOIA requests.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Unreals ()
Date: December 10, 2012 04:23AM

Can someone provide a link where we can access the salaries of individual FCPS teachers? Thanks.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: bar ()
Date: December 10, 2012 08:28AM

Unreals Wrote:
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> Can someone provide a link where we can access the
> salaries of individual FCPS teachers? Thanks.


just email this ladies is on a pdf
bareaves@fcps.edu

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: opps you get paid double ()
Date: December 10, 2012 05:24PM

Neal, Shanae L
English Teacher, HS
Mount Vernon High School
$50,739

Neal, Shanea L
English Teacher, HS
Mount Vernon High School
$50,739

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: get WMATA too ()
Date: December 10, 2012 06:40PM

PLEASE FOIA the salaries of all METRO employees.

Would love to see the booth attendants who probably make $90k per year plus early retirement.

And we wonder why fares keep going up.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: arabic Teahcers WTF ()
Date: December 10, 2012 06:56PM

arabic
Allen, Timothy L
Arabic Language Teacher, HS
Herndon High School
$51,957

Bacha, Meriem
Arabic Language Teacher, ES
Beech Tree Elementary School
$67,085

elhoula, Sami
Arabic Language Teacher, ES
Sleepy Hollow Elementary School
$49,092

ElTahir, Ayman A
Arabic Language Teacher, MS
Glasgow Middle School
$22,580

Ola A
Arabic Language Teacher, HS
Annandale High School
$64,631



Moula, Wisam R
Arabic Language Teacher, HS
Stuart High School
$69,886



Sharaf, Mona A
Arabic Language Teacher, HS
Hayfield Secondary School
$75,140

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Linkplease ()
Date: December 10, 2012 09:19PM

Is there a link to the names and salaries of those who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well? Thanks!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bitter resentful failures ()
Date: December 10, 2012 11:16PM

Linkplease Wrote:
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> Is there a link to the names and salaries of those
> who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well?
> Thanks!

I pay more in taxes than they earn, if they earn anything at all.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Whaaaaaa ()
Date: December 11, 2012 12:47AM

Linkplease Wrote:
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> Is there a link to the names and salaries of those
> who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well?
> Thanks!


When you start paying their salaries, then you can have the list.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You don't pay their salaries ()
Date: December 11, 2012 01:34AM

Whaaaaaa Wrote:
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> Linkplease Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is there a link to the names and salaries of
> those
> > who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well?
> > Thanks!
>
>
> When you start paying their salaries, then you can
> have the list.


You don't pay their salaries. You pay taxes. And if you are bitter about what teachers earn, you probably barely pay enough taxes to cover even one teacher's salary for 2 weeks.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Duhhh ()
Date: December 11, 2012 02:19AM

You don't pay their salaries Wrote:
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> Whaaaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Linkplease Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Is there a link to the names and salaries of
> > those
> > > who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well?
> > > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > When you start paying their salaries, then you
> can
> > have the list.
>
>
> You don't pay their salaries. You pay taxes. And
> if you are bitter about what teachers earn, you
> probably barely pay enough taxes to cover even one
> teacher's salary for 2 weeks.


And where does the money to pay their salaries come from? Duh.

Not bitter at all. But I've paid a ton of property, business, and other taxes to the county over the last 20+ years and I/we certainly have an interest in knowing how it's spent. Which is why the information is made public.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: criminals get raises! ()
Date: December 11, 2012 02:10PM

Marinoff, Joseph M Jr. Special Projects Administrator, Teacher Evaluation Gatehouse Administration Center I $131,612


Fairfax Principal Charged In Parking Lot Accident
The Washington Post
May 7, 1999 | Tom Jackman |

A Fairfax County elementary school principal has been charged with hit-and-run driving after allegedly backing his pickup truck into a school bus at his school, knocking a child to the ground, and then driving away.

Police issued a misdemeanor summons to J. Martin Marinoff Jr., 49, of Alexandria, following the incident Tuesday afternoon at Canterbury Woods Elementary School in Annandale. No one was hurt, and damage from the collision was minor.

Marinoff did not return calls to the school and his home seeking comment. He took over as principal at Canterbury Woods last month. Previously, he was principal at Kings Glen Elementary School.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: OldTillyGuy ()
Date: December 11, 2012 02:49PM

For those who have sampled the fare at Chantilly with Chef Doubleday, he is probably underpaid!!!

Incredible program, great food.

Wayne White and Cosmotology at Chantilly is also award winning. His kids are really well trained.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FCPS Spouse ()
Date: December 11, 2012 03:25PM

As someone who is married to a FCPS administrator, I can tell you that my husband makes a pretty good living. However, with the level of education attained by my husband, he could make so much more money in the private sector. A school administrator is like the CEO of a small corporation. There are staff issues, budget considerations, parents, and students that all have to be "managed" successfully in order for a school to be productive. School administrators are required to attend all school functions: Pep rallies, science fairs, PTA meetings, etc, and all in the evening hours, which are technically outside contract hours.

Oh, and for those of you who think that every school employee only works 9.5 months a year, that is only the teachers. Administrators and their support staff are on 12 month contracts. They get the same holidays as everyone else. They do not get off during winter break or spring break or time off in the summer, unless they take leave.

Fairfax spends alot of money on their schools. FCPS is the largest employer in the state of Virginia. FCPS is the envy of most of the county school systems in the state. We have access to educational services that other counties just cannot afford to provide. People with children want to live in FFX County because of our schools. I feel fortunate that I can afford to live here, even on a FCPS puny salary.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ashley Madison ()
Date: December 11, 2012 03:33PM

FCPS Spouse Wrote:
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> school to be productive. School administrators
> are required to attend all school functions: Pep
> rallies, science fairs, PTA meetings, etc, and all
> in the evening hours, which are technically
> outside contract hours.
>

Are you sure that your husband is really attending all of these activities? Because sometimes more than one school has an activity scheduled at the same time.

Sounds to me like you need to check your credit report for any credit cards you don't know about, and then find out which hotels he uses that credit card at.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FCPS Spouse ()
Date: December 11, 2012 03:42PM

Thank you Ashley Madison... That was very funny! ;)

Actually, my husband does not work at what would be termed a "normal" school which would engage in these types of activities. Alternative learning centers don't usually have pep rallies, etc. I was just speaking in general of what is expected of most school administrators. What that means is that he is at home with me every evening. :)
So, I'll say it again, since you seem to have missed my point: everyone can complain all they want about educator salaries, but the fact is this is a group of people, most with several advanced degrees, who do not earn what they should. But they do it anyway, because they really believe they can make a differenc.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ashley Madison ()
Date: December 11, 2012 03:45PM

FCPS Spouse Wrote:
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> Thank you Ashley Madison... That was very funny!
> ;)
>

Glad you have a sense of humor.


> Actually, my husband does not work at what would
> be termed a "normal" school which would engage in
> these types of activities. Alternative learning
> centers don't usually have pep rallies, etc. I
> was just speaking in general of what is expected
> of most school administrators. What that means is
> that he is at home with me every evening. :)
> So, I'll say it again, since you seem to have
> missed my point: everyone can complain all they
> want about educator salaries, but the fact is this
> is a group of people, most with several advanced
> degrees, who do not earn what they should. But
> they do it anyway, because they really believe
> they can make a differenc.


Teabaggers are just bitter that people make more than they do, and resent having to pay taxes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: do the math sweetie ()
Date: December 11, 2012 05:37PM

So, your husband is an administrator at an "alternative school".

Let's assume it's Bryant which has a total population of 340 kids.

Wow--that must be real demanding keeping up with all those other activities for 340 kids-particularly since there are no sports teams at Bryant.

I will assume your husband has an advanced degree in some worthless major like education which serves no purpose outside of schools.

IBM is not hiring school administrators.

Northrop is not hiring school principals.

Goldman Sachs is not hiring your husband---ever--he has zero work skills outside of managing a bunch of 14-18 year olds.

Please don't make hime sound like he is qualified to do anything other than work in a school.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: kleck ()
Date: December 11, 2012 05:40PM

You have the whole summer off, you really should just shut up right now.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fcps ()
Date: December 11, 2012 06:36PM

kleck Wrote:
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> You have the whole summer off, you really should
> just shut up right now.

You should go to your HR department and request an unpaid leave of absence for next summer. Because that is what the "whole summer off" is for most school employees, an unpaid leave of absence.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: way overpaid ()
Date: December 11, 2012 06:39PM

This person schedules (although people register online now) use of facilities....



Craig, Amy M Coordinator II, Community & Facility Use Gatehouse Administration Center I $119,307

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: u r exposed ()
Date: December 11, 2012 06:40PM

What a liar you are, I happen to know you can have your check paid over the whole twelve months. You frequently compare your salary to those occupations where a two week vacation is the norm not three whole months. Do you really find it fair to do that?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: But seriously ()
Date: December 11, 2012 07:07PM

Does anyone commenting on these salaries know the circumstances of each individual and how those circumstances contribute to salaries? I'm talking tenure, experience, education, funding source (some salaries do not come directly, nor entirely, from FCPS) etc? Who is to say that someone is overpaid based only on a job title and salary? What's more, who is to say a position is needed or not needed without basing that decision on factual information, not a job title and salary info. as posted on this forum?

It may very well be that some of these positions are unnecessary or the salaries are higher than the norm or above the economics of FFX County. It may also be they are not. Same can be said of mail carriers, trash collectors, F&M employees and the likes.

Is anyone here providing objective comments and input...in the proper setting and not bitching on FU like a bunch of whiners...to FCPS and Fairfax County regarding the spending of it's budget, creation of jobs, etc?

Of course, if the intention is to post salary information on FU purely for the purposes of people making idiotic, uninformed, ridiculous, occasionally funny comments, have at it.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You are overthinking this ()
Date: December 11, 2012 07:11PM

But seriously Wrote:
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> Does anyone commenting on these salaries know the
> circumstances of each individual and how those
> circumstances contribute to salaries? I'm talking
> tenure, experience, education, funding source
> (some salaries do not come directly, nor entirely,
> from FCPS) etc? Who is to say that someone is
> overpaid based only on a job title and salary?
> What's more, who is to say a position is needed or
> not needed without basing that decision on factual
> information, not a job title and salary info. as
> posted on this forum?
>
> It may very well be that some of these positions
> are unnecessary or the salaries are higher than
> the norm or above the economics of FFX County. It
> may also be they are not. Same can be said of mail
> carriers, trash collectors, F&M employees and the
> likes.
>
> Is anyone here providing objective comments and
> input...in the proper setting and not bitching on
> FU like a bunch of whiners...to FCPS and Fairfax
> County regarding the spending of it's budget,
> creation of jobs, etc?
>
> Of course, if the intention is to post salary
> information on FU purely for the purposes of
> people making idiotic, uninformed, ridiculous,
> occasionally funny comments, have at it.


This is teabagger nutjob stuff. They have been led to believe they are empowered to make fiscal decisions because they pay taxes on their menial wage labor incomes.

Considering things like factors and situations is asking way too much of them. These are not intellectually honest or curious people.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: thankful ()
Date: December 11, 2012 07:16PM

The option to have part of your paycheck set aside each month so that you could "receive a pay check" in the summer doesn't even exist anymore. Your annual salary is based on your contract months, and contrary to the administrator's wife, most teachers do not have all that time off either. Most teachers spend time during winter and spring break coaching sports, sponsoring activites, grading papers, writing recommendation letters for students who are trying to secure scholarships or entrance to college (obviously more over winter break than spring break on this one) or simply catching up on lesson planning. Most teachers spend part of their "outrageous" salaries purchasing supplies for their students and classrooms.
Thank you to all of those teachers who are in the job to make a difference in the lives of young people. God help us if we start paying them any less, or else they might opt to take their skills (and if you don't think it takes skills to manage a classroom of teenagers you are crazy) somewhere else. Without quality education in this county everyone's property value will drop...and then there will really be something to complain about!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: re thankful ()
Date: December 11, 2012 07:23PM

So manage your finances you worthless turd. Take your yearly salary and divide by twelve, is it that hard?

You know the salary going in , you know what is required of you. If not then you went in with your eyes shut and have only yourself to blame. Otherwise quit and go find out what happens in the real world. You wouldnt make it at anything other than a government job. No one else stays home because it is snowing, too cold, too hot or too windy. You got it made and dont know it.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ms.Armstrong ()
Date: December 11, 2012 11:00PM

anyone want to tell me how much ms.Armstrong earns? SHE the best. and she smoke pot I love her

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FCPS ()
Date: December 12, 2012 07:15AM

do the math sweetie Wrote:
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> So, your husband is an administrator at an
> "alternative school".
>
> Let's assume it's Bryant which has a total
> population of 340 kids.
>
> Wow--that must be real demanding keeping up with
> all those other activities for 340
> kids-particularly since there are no sports teams
> at Bryant.
>
> I will assume your husband has an advanced degree
> in some worthless major like education which
> serves no purpose outside of schools.
>
> IBM is not hiring school administrators.
>
> Northrop is not hiring school principals.
>
> Goldman Sachs is not hiring your
> husband---ever--he has zero work skills outside of
> managing a bunch of 14-18 year olds.
>
> Please don't make hime sound like he is qualified
> to do anything other than work in a school.


This is a very finite work skill. There is no way you walk away from being a school Principal to the CEO of anything. In fact, if you left and went to work for any defense contractor in the area, you would be a junior analyst because there are no skills on your resume they would want.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: IB Coordination ()
Date: December 12, 2012 10:57AM

why do elementery school have IB Coordination

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: I have a question ()
Date: December 12, 2012 11:48AM

to IB Coordination:

Can you give more information on this?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: don't see an IB in elem school ()
Date: December 12, 2012 03:26PM

Green, Lisa B IB Coordination Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $92,507
Coast, Daniel A IB Coordination Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $88,936
Acevedo, Mariano S IV IB Coordination Teacher, HS Lee High School $77,791
Hertel, Karen J IB Coordination Teacher, HS Mount Vernon High School $75,554
Kresse Rodriguez, Jennifer A IB Coordination Teacher, HS Stuart High School $74,847
Campbell, Shirley R IB Coordination Teacher, HS Annandale High School $74,431
Vu, Wendy M IB Coordination Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $73,387
Bradshaw, Linda M IB Coordination Teacher, HS Annandale High School $71,288
Shewchuk, Carlota B IB Coordination Teacher, HS Marshall High School $70,713
Morris, Melanie A IB Coordination Teacher, HS Edison High School $59,988
Strom, Tor S IB Coordination Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $59,988
Brown, Alana N IB Coordination Teacher, HS Stuart High School $56,720
Turner, Marie IB Coordination Teacher, HS South Lakes High School $56,058
Crawley, Ibe-Bulinda H IB Coordination Teacher, MS Whitman Middle School $80,098
Oladimeji, Chinoyerem E IB Coordination Teacher, MS Glasgow Middle School $75,100
Horak, David J IB Coordination Teacher, MS Poe Middle School $63,186

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ROTC participation ()
Date: December 12, 2012 06:02PM

Easter, Russell A JROTC Instructor, HS West Potomac High School $94,414
Berry, Kurt M JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High School $89,290
Cassara, Richard J JROTC Instructor, HS Herndon High School $89,290
Lambert, Thomas E JROTC Instructor, HS Chantilly High School $86,690
Medley, Willie G JROTC Instructor, HS Mount Vernon High School $83,495
Lomax, Dwight Sr. JROTC Instructor, HS Lake Braddock Secondary School $83,240
Ruhl, Devin E JROTC Instructor, HS Hayfield Secondary School $80,905
Schuler, Joseph V JROTC Instructor, HS South Lakes High School $78,397
Maness, John C JROTC Instructor, HS Herndon High School $73,610
Handy, Anthony W JROTC Instructor, HS South Lakes High School $71,327
Wallace, Robert E JROTC Instructor, HS Mount Vernon High School $70,681
Carlos, Malik JROTC Instructor, HS West Potomac High School $69,116
Lee, Christopher JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High School $69,116
Pickett, Eric W JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High School $64,896
Wilks, John E JROTC Instructor, HS Chantilly High School $64,896
Henderson, Edward G JROTC Instructor, HS Hayfield Secondary School $59,045

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: IB observation ()
Date: December 12, 2012 06:17PM

So, FCPS is spending almost 1 million on the IB coordinators (a requirement of the program. ) Isn't it time to ditch IB? That's not the only expense of the IB over AP.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: doot ()
Date: December 12, 2012 06:27PM

ROTC participation Wrote:
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> Easter, Russell A JROTC Instructor, HS West
> Potomac High School $94,414
> Berry, Kurt M JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High
> School $89,290
> Cassara, Richard J JROTC Instructor, HS Herndon
> High School $89,290
> Lambert, Thomas E JROTC Instructor, HS Chantilly
> High School $86,690
> Medley, Willie G JROTC Instructor, HS Mount Vernon
> High School $83,495
> Lomax, Dwight Sr. JROTC Instructor, HS Lake
> Braddock Secondary School $83,240
> Ruhl, Devin E JROTC Instructor, HS Hayfield
> Secondary School $80,905
> Schuler, Joseph V JROTC Instructor, HS South Lakes
> High School $78,397
> Maness, John C JROTC Instructor, HS Herndon High
> School $73,610
> Handy, Anthony W JROTC Instructor, HS South Lakes
> High School $71,327
> Wallace, Robert E JROTC Instructor, HS Mount
> Vernon High School $70,681
> Carlos, Malik JROTC Instructor, HS West Potomac
> High School $69,116
> Lee, Christopher JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High
> School $69,116
> Pickett, Eric W JROTC Instructor, HS Edison High
> School $64,896
> Wilks, John E JROTC Instructor, HS Chantilly High
> School $64,896
> Henderson, Edward G JROTC Instructor, HS Hayfield
> Secondary School $59,045


Hopefully, JROTC teachers' salaries are re-imbursed by Uncle Sam.

After all, it is 'Murca that needs cannon fodder for her make believe wars.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ROTC ()
Date: December 13, 2012 12:01PM

I don't see any data on ROTC participation rates in schools. The phots on the websites show about 20-25 kids.

Do they really need two instructors per school for 25 kids?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Laura ()
Date: December 22, 2012 10:34PM

I taught full-time in Fairfax County for 7 years. I left for another teaching job out of state and my salary jumped $20,000. FCPS scaled WAY BACK on beginning salaries in the 1990's. You're lucky that these people make only as much as they do after 25 years or more of service. Teaching is a "white collar" job, my friends. These are low-level salaries for white color jobs,especially when you consider what their counter-parts make in the Northern Virginia area. Realize that the lower you pay, the more stupid they get. These people prepare your children for college and for life. How stupid do you want them to be?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Joe Fairfax ()
Date: December 23, 2012 03:21PM

The median household income in Fairfax is pushing six figures. Is it too much to ask that school employees make something that might put them into the middle class of the district in which they teach?

Remember also that teachers have on-going certification requirements, which they have to pay for themselves. Which means they have to go to school sometimes at night or in the summer. Also, when do you think they do all their course planning? It isn't like a box shows up with Senior Physics and they just teach from a script. Plus, they have to implement an asinine SOL "teach to the test" policy which is the antithesis of learning. And they have to deal with annoying parents like me.

I'm with you on the senior people who have a "3" in front of their six figure salary. Or even a "2". There isn't a single federal employee who makes more than $200k (except the President and VP). And bear in mind that the salary is just the tip of the iceberg for a guy like Jack Dale. They get cars and "deferred compensation" (HUGE cash contributions on back-loaded retirement funds). He also gets raises when no one else does. It's like with corporate CEO's where the idea is that you have to pay for talent. I doubt it. Plenty of places seem to be able to get by without that kind of investment.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Greedy Union Members ()
Date: December 23, 2012 03:36PM

The only profession in the entire world where you make 90k to be a babysitter and teach some basics. God damn you greedy union leeches. You want to live in nova comfortably? get a real degree like everyone else and use it. The education around here is mediocre at absolute best, and the whining teachers are just insufferable.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: The big salaries are private ()
Date: December 23, 2012 03:46PM

Joe Fairfax Wrote:
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> I'm with you on the senior people who have a "3"
> in front of their six figure salary. Or even a
> "2". There isn't a single federal employee who
> makes more than $200k (except the President and
> VP). And bear in mind that the salary is just the
> tip of the iceberg for a guy like Jack Dale. They
> get cars and "deferred compensation" (HUGE cash
> contributions on back-loaded retirement funds). He


There isn't a schedule for the highest paid federal employees because those jobs have been privatized. When you top out in the GS scale, you move to a place like SAIC, Booz Allen, Lockheed, etc. and make obscene amounts of money helping them rig the bidding and contracting process.

As far as the cars and retirement benefits, look at all the agency heads who drive around in huge armed military style motorcades and have access to Air Force C-21A for official and personal travel.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fairfax senior ()
Date: December 23, 2012 04:12PM

brett gustman makes more than $70,000?
did not know all these physics teachers made so much money

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ES-3 ()
Date: December 23, 2012 05:32PM

Joe Fairfax Wrote:
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>
> I'm with you on the senior people who have a "3"
> in front of their six figure salary. Or even a
> "2". There isn't a single federal employee who
> makes more than $200k (except the President and
> VP).


Apparently you're not familiar with how SES bonuses work.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: High School Teacher ()
Date: December 23, 2012 06:23PM

I may have known what the salary was when I signed on, but I also expected to get steps based on my years of experience. Haven't had a step increase in three years here.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: oh really ()
Date: December 23, 2012 09:27PM

High School Teacher Wrote:
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> I may have known what the salary was when I signed
> on, but I also expected to get steps based on my
> years of experience. Haven't had a step increase
> in three years here.


LIES, LIES, LIES, I know you make good bank. you only work from 720am-205 pm
and remember you have 2 "PLANING PERIODS. When I went to high school we had 7 periods a day. and I remember most teachers that had 1st period off used to sleep in and come in late. and the have unlimited vacations days and you will never be fired. I will love to have 90 mins planning period which the 30 mins lunch break. and I only earn$9.90 an hour so thank you very much

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Hahahahahaha ()
Date: December 23, 2012 09:57PM

$9.90? I can see why you are bitter. Probably should have paid better attention in school, huh?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Shittin Sherlock ()
Date: December 23, 2012 10:31PM

Hahahahahaha Wrote:
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> $9.90? I can see why you are bitter. Probably
> should have paid better attention in school, huh?

No shit. This explains why there are people complaining about teacher salaries. The complainers are the failures who resent their former teachers for earning a barely middle-class salary since these complainers are making a barely survivable hourly wage. $18k a year? Holy shit.

Notice the dumbshit believes teachers' hours are from first bell until dismissal. They don't consider that teachers often work until 4 or 5 at the school, and then grade homework and tests at home at night.

Simple minds have simple issues.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: JustCurious ()
Date: December 27, 2012 04:17PM

Does she have a teaching degree, or was this a pay-off by Kathy Smith for helping move all of the illegals out of Poplar Tree and into Virginia Run?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Great Expectations ()
Date: December 28, 2012 07:29AM

High School Teacher Wrote:
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> I may have known what the salary was when I signed
> on, but I also expected to get steps based on my
> years of experience. Haven't had a step increase
> in three years here.


Maybe you should have not had those expectations in the first place.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: glad we gave out raises ()
Date: December 28, 2012 01:27PM

The Fairfax County School Board found nearly $10 million in unspent funding in its current budget and will set most of the money aside to spend next year -- a downpayment on a budget deficit expected to go as high as $162 million.

The board won't go through it's entire $2.4 billion budget looking for additional savings, although officials said they expect to find more unused cash following the fourth-quarter budget review.



Everyone, get out your checkbook.........

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tony Love ()
Date: December 29, 2012 07:32PM

Wow! Unbelievable that the annual salary of a school truancy officer is so high. One would believe and perceive that this would not be an issue in such an affluent community!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: any more ()
Date: January 29, 2013 05:59PM

any new salaries request ????

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Proud American and Dad ()
Date: January 31, 2013 06:01PM

OVER 240,000 DOLLARS
arabic Teahcers WTF Wrote:
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> arabic
> Allen, Timothy L
> Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> Herndon High School
> $51,957
>
> Bacha, Meriem
> Arabic Language Teacher, ES
> Beech Tree Elementary School
> $67,085
>
> elhoula, Sami
> Arabic Language Teacher, ES
> Sleepy Hollow Elementary School
> $49,092
>
> ElTahir, Ayman A
> Arabic Language Teacher, MS
> Glasgow Middle School
> $22,580
>
> Ola A
> Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> Annandale High School
> $64,631
>
>
>
> Moula, Wisam R
> Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> Stuart High School
> $69,886
>
>
>
> Sharaf, Mona A
> Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> Hayfield Secondary School
> $75,140

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: So? ()
Date: January 31, 2013 06:17PM

Proud American and Dad Wrote:
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> OVER 240,000 DOLLARS
> arabic Teahcers WTF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > arabic
> > Allen, Timothy L
> > Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> > Herndon High School
> > $51,957
> >
> > Bacha, Meriem
> > Arabic Language Teacher, ES
> > Beech Tree Elementary School
> > $67,085
> >
> > elhoula, Sami
> > Arabic Language Teacher, ES
> > Sleepy Hollow Elementary School
> > $49,092
> >
> > ElTahir, Ayman A
> > Arabic Language Teacher, MS
> > Glasgow Middle School
> > $22,580
> >
> > Ola A
> > Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> > Annandale High School
> > $64,631
> >
> >
> >
> > Moula, Wisam R
> > Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> > Stuart High School
> > $69,886
> >
> >
> >
> > Sharaf, Mona A
> > Arabic Language Teacher, HS
> > Hayfield Secondary School
> > $75,140

Over $240k divided by 7.
So what's your point?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FCPS employee ()
Date: January 31, 2013 06:34PM

I've worked for FCPS for 6 years. For four of them no one has gotten an annual step increase.

Before you all talk shit, I make less than 50k and don't live in the county.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Edison high ()
Date: February 06, 2013 12:21PM

How much does Mr.Racek make? He works at Edison HS

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: None* ()
Date: February 06, 2013 01:22PM

I am retired from one county agency, drawing a retired salary, and working for FCPS making another 60K......for a total of about 130K.....all of which comes from your taxes. Oh...and by the way.....I dont do shit and enjoy the hell out of it. So please .....post my salary, I am proud of it.

Quit crying and get a fucking job you can be happy about you fucking loser.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: jessie182 ()
Date: February 06, 2013 05:49PM

Salaries of all FCPS employees are published on the FCPS website. This is not secret information. You are right to suggest that most of the employees that working directly in a classroom are overpaid and underworked. Teachers, however, are overworked and underpaid. We are only contracted to work 7.5 hours a day, but we are EXPECTED to stay after school until 3:30, sometimes 4. At some schools, teachers are required to serve "lunch duty" during their own lunch. We are inundated with pointless paperwork and delegated responsibilities that should be fulfilled by other people. (For example, I am responsible for assigning detention for attendance, even though we have someone who is in charge of discipline for attendance issues.) I am a firm believer in performance pay; that way, the out-of-shape PE teacher who sits around with his clipboard and has no state assessments does not get the same pay that I do. At the same time, I didn't get into this profession for its awesome pay. I could be making 3x as much working for a publishing company, but I choose teaching. I love working with kids, I like being able to continue learning, I enjoy being around others who are just as professional and smart. I just don't like being around the uneducated lumps that somehow got a job in the system. (Believe me, it doesn't take much to qualify as a teacher.) Let's not generalize and say we are all overpaid.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Stop Bitching ()
Date: February 07, 2013 06:11AM

jessie182 Wrote:
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> Salaries of all FCPS employees are published on
> the FCPS website. This is not secret information.
> You are right to suggest that most of the
> employees that working directly in a classroom are
> overpaid and underworked. Teachers, however, are
> overworked and underpaid. We are only contracted
> to work 7.5 hours a day, but we are EXPECTED to
> stay after school until 3:30, sometimes 4. At some
> schools, teachers are required to serve "lunch
> duty" during their own lunch. We are inundated
> with pointless paperwork and delegated
> responsibilities that should be fulfilled by other
> people. (For example, I am responsible for
> assigning detention for attendance, even though we
> have someone who is in charge of discipline for
> attendance issues.) I am a firm believer in
> performance pay; that way, the out-of-shape PE
> teacher who sits around with his clipboard and has
> no state assessments does not get the same pay
> that I do. At the same time, I didn't get into
> this profession for its awesome pay. I could be
> making 3x as much working for a publishing
> company, but I choose teaching. I love working
> with kids, I like being able to continue learning,
> I enjoy being around others who are just as
> professional and smart. I just don't like being
> around the uneducated lumps that somehow got a job
> in the system. (Believe me, it doesn't take much
> to qualify as a teacher.) Let's not generalize and
> say we are all overpaid.


Stop bitching about your job. It is your choice to work there and make "3x" less. You didn't have to start contributing to your retirement until last year and it was subsidized with a raise so you would see a difference in your check. You don't have to work for 2.5 months for the summer and you make more money than some 12-month employees. You also get many if the holidays the kids do besides teacher work days.

You're not in such a bad situation. If you can't manage your money, learn how or shut up.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Stop Bitching ()
Date: February 07, 2013 06:13AM

Edit: subsidized so you would NOT have to see a difference in your check.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Fairfax citizen ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:31PM

Just to add to this discussion, FCPS get's 60% of the county budget and are asking for more. People should keep this in mind when more county programs get cut.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: RESPONE TO MR.RACEK ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:39PM

Edison high Wrote:
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> How much does Mr.Racek make? He works at Edison HS


Racek, Scott A
History & Social Studies Teacher, HS
Edison High School
$77,791

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: 89,000 dollars FOR PE TEACHER OM ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:41PM

Smith, Heather M
Music Teacher, ES
Oakton Elementary School
$10,652


Smith, Heidi E
Health & Physical Education Teacher, HS
Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
$89,137

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:41PM

Money doesn't grow on trees. If there were no taxes then they would have no salary, so taxes do pay their salaries. Personally, instead of using a general pool of tax payer money, I believe parents should have to pay for their kids to use the school system, even if it is a small amount. Not only would it decrease the general tax burden, but studies show if you invest money in something you are more likely to be involved with it.




You don't pay their salaries Wrote:
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> Whaaaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Linkplease Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Is there a link to the names and salaries of
> > those
> > > who are obsessed with FCPS salaries as well?
> > > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > When you start paying their salaries, then you
> can
> > have the list.
>
>
> You don't pay their salaries. You pay taxes. And
> if you are bitter about what teachers earn, you
> probably barely pay enough taxes to cover even one
> teacher's salary for 2 weeks.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:46PM

Your the reason we need to cut jobs of those who do nothing in the school system. Why would you tell someone who probably has a job to get one, when you admit you don't do anything in your job?


None* Wrote:
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> I am retired from one county agency, drawing a
> retired salary, and working for FCPS making
> another 60K......for a total of about 130K.....all
> of which comes from your taxes. Oh...and by the
> way.....I dont do shit and enjoy the hell out of
> it. So please .....post my salary, I am proud of
> it.
>
> Quit crying and get a fucking job you can be happy
> about you fucking loser.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:49PM

Here are the problems:
1. People in the school system who don't do anything need to be fired. The unions protect them so they are removed from teaching but given some office job where they do nothing but waste our tax payer dollars.
2. We need to not drawing all the money from the general tax payer dollars and require parents to pay tuition. People need to take responsibility for their kids. They need to stop with the attitude that it is societies job to pay for their kids and the teachers jobs to babysit for them, rather than to teach them things.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: bitchRRRRR ()
Date: February 07, 2013 01:51PM

I BET YOUR KIDS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT SOMETHING. AND YOUR THE KIND OF PARENTS THAT WANTS TO SEE OUR COLLEGE DEGREE AND THINK YOUR BETTER THAN US.

katiesmith Wrote:
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> Here are the problems:
> 1. People in the school system who don't do
> anything need to be fired. The unions protect
> them so they are removed from teaching but given
> some office job where they do nothing but waste
> our tax payer dollars.
> 2. We need to not drawing all the money from the
> general tax payer dollars and require parents to
> pay tuition. People need to take responsibility
> for their kids. They need to stop with the
> attitude that it is societies job to pay for their
> kids and the teachers jobs to babysit for them,
> rather than to teach them things.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: forum watcher ()
Date: February 07, 2013 04:37PM

Salaries of all FCPS employees are published on the FCPS website. This is not secret information. You are right to suggest that most of the employees that working directly in a classroom are overpaid and underworked. Teachers, however, are overworked and underpaid. We are only contracted to work 7.5 hours a day, but we are EXPECTED to stay after school until 3:30, sometimes 4. At some schools, teachers are required to serve "lunch duty" during their own lunch. We are inundated with pointless paperwork and delegated responsibilities that should be fulfilled by other people. (For example, I am responsible for assigning detention for attendance, even though we have someone who is in charge of discipline for attendance issues.) I am a firm believer in performance pay; that way, the out-of-shape PE teacher who sits around with his clipboard and has no state assessments does not get the same pay that I do. At the same time, I didn't get into this profession for its awesome pay. I could be making 3x as much working for a publishing company, but I choose teaching. I love working with kids, I like being able to continue learning, I enjoy being around others who are just as professional and smart. I just don't like being around the uneducated lumps that somehow got a job in the system. (Believe me, it doesn't take much to qualify as a teacher.) Let's not generalize and say we are all overpaid.


Reminder: Teachers work 194 days. That is less than 40 weeks per year.
The job of teacher is stressful. However, there are lots of other jobs where people work long,long hours and get paid less.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Not from around here ()
Date: February 15, 2013 10:53AM

Hahahaha. 9.5 months of work? Let's see, I'm a teacher (different state), and I work 75-85 hours a week. I work at least 20-30 hours a week during most summer weeks, other than 3 of vacation. I work over all school vacations for holidays. If I took my "ridiculous" salary and actually calculated the dollars per hour, I would probably want to start looking into fast food for a salary bump. Anyone on this thread commenting about how ridiculous it is to have electives and special programs, or how teachers and admin only work 9 months a year are so blatantly out of touch with how the world works, it scares me that you've had children.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Fyr Fiter ()
Date: February 15, 2013 11:06AM

You don't even want to talk about the number of days a month a firefighter in the county works.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: total bs ()
Date: February 15, 2013 11:56AM

Not from around here Wrote:
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> Hahahaha. 9.5 months of work? Let's see, I'm a
> teacher (different state), and I work 75-85 hours
> a week. I work at least 20-30 hours a week during
> most summer weeks, other than 3 of vacation. I
> work over all school vacations for holidays. If I
> took my "ridiculous" salary and actually
> calculated the dollars per hour, I would probably
> want to start looking into fast food for a salary
> bump. Anyone on this thread commenting about how
> ridiculous it is to have electives and special
> programs, or how teachers and admin only work 9
> months a year are so blatantly out of touch with
> how the world works, it scares me that you've had
> children.

BS. 75 - 80 hours per week? So you start at 6AM and work til 10PM every day of the work week, or work 8 hours a day every single day of the week? Doesn't happen. Don't believe you. Go back to the idea of dealing with whiny and pampered kids and parents - at least that is plausible.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ani union ignoramus ()
Date: February 15, 2013 12:35PM

FCPS does not have unions by state law idiot...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Student ()
Date: February 15, 2013 12:43PM

Now I dont' feel bad about my teacher working on the corner in Wolf Trap. They need the money. I try to go help her out when I can...she has taught me so so much...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: pinkertons ()
Date: February 15, 2013 02:15PM

ani union ignoramus Wrote:
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> FCPS does not have unions by state law idiot...


no...they don't have compulsory union membership (a closed shop) and they don't have a union contract, but there is a NEA and AFT union in Fairfax. Kind of toothless, but a union nonetheless.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: do cry for her ()
Date: February 15, 2013 02:24PM

Student Wrote:
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> Now I dont' feel bad about my teacher working on
> the corner in Wolf Trap. They need the money. I
> try to go help her out when I can...she has taught
> me so so much...

Teachers has forever worked second jobs - summer camps, tutoring, retail, whatever. If you only worked 9 mos a year and 6 hours a day in a very predictable pattern, you would too. A second job? Of course. You have to be completely lazy to NOT get a second job. Pretty much anyone who has a job where they have or can arrange long periods of open time - firefighters, pilots, flight attendants, etc. - finds a way to add a second job.

BTW, that PART TIME job at Wolf Trap comes with the following benefits, so try not to feel too bad for her:

Vacation/Annual Leave
Personal Leave
Sick Leave
Holiday Pay
403(b) Retirement Plan
Free Master Class Participation
Complimentary Filene Center tickets
Discounted Health Club Membership
Credit Union
Discounts at Concessions and Gift Shops

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Any truth? ()
Date: February 15, 2013 04:31PM

I think we should fire all the lazy businessmen and women who have 11 month jobs and get paid $100,000 or more a year! After all the "water-cooler" time, 2 hour lunches, web surfing, and banging their subordinates, they might work 20 hours a week!

Plus, they get 4 weeks or more PAID VACATION, 5 figure year-end bonuses, and stock options! Thieves!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tgbwc ()
Date: February 15, 2013 05:55PM

pinkertons Wrote:
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> ani union ignoramus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FCPS does not have unions by state law idiot...
>
>
> no...they don't have compulsory union membership
> (a closed shop) and they don't have a union
> contract, but there is a NEA and AFT union in
> Fairfax. Kind of toothless, but a union
> nonetheless.

This is true. NEA is actually an "association" and AFT is a "labor union" affiliated with the AFL-CIO. As a Right To Work state, membership is not required. There is no collective bargaining and contracts are annual.

Rarely do I complain. I'm a teacher and I'll be honest... I can't imagine working 75-80 hours per week. If the previous post is true, then that teacher needs to step back and prioritize. I will say that the workload has increased greatly over the past few years, but not to that point. I'm in my 20th year and I would say on average, I spend about 45 hours a week in the building. Add to that another 7-10 hours at home. So, for me, it's probably an average week of 52-55 hours per week. I don't get everything done, but at some point a person has to call it a day.

As far as the summer months go, I will pretty much be able to avoid work related requirements from June 22-August 25. There might be a few hours here and there of miscellaneous tasks which I will choose to tackle. I spend much of my summer volunteering.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: bugslife ()
Date: February 15, 2013 09:08PM

Something to ponder upon!

If a doctor, lawyer, or dentist had 40 people in his/her office at one time, all of whom had different needs, different learning styles, and some of whom didn't want to be there and were causing trouble, and the doctor, lawyer, or dentist, without assistance, had to treat them all with professional excellence for nine months, then he might have some conception of the classroom teacher's job.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Shockerz ()
Date: February 15, 2013 09:25PM

bugslife Wrote:
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> Something to ponder upon!
>
> If a doctor, lawyer, or dentist had 40 people in
> his/her office at one time, all of whom had
> different needs, different learning styles, and
> some of whom didn't want to be there and were
> causing trouble, and the doctor, lawyer, or
> dentist, without assistance, had to treat them all
> with professional excellence for nine months, then
> he might have some conception of the classroom
> teacher's job.


Shocker - Most of us went to school and know what teachers do.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Fannie Mae ()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:33AM

This makes me sick to my stomach. 98% of these people don't deserve their salaries. I know people on this list and have watched them work. (or not work for that matter), And they won't give TEACHERS step increases or raises? Shit, I'm gonna be an administrator and triple my measly wages. If these people can keep their jobs and get paid like this, then so can I!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Angry Teacher ()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:37AM

I am a seasoned teacher and I make HALF of what these people make. The LIBRARIAN in my school makes $10,000 more than me per year!!! Are you serious?? She sits in the library all day, changes the radio station periodically and waters plants. Meanwhile, I am teaching 125 students daily, grading papers, administering assessments, etc. I am an idiot, I need to be a librarian!!! What a joke!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Northrop ()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:40AM

Admin Assistant makes $52K with no college degree, sitting in front office playing solitaire on her FCPS computer, answering the occasional phone call, while the average teacher with a degree earns $55K????

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Emily145 ()
Date: February 16, 2013 10:42AM

>>I am a seasoned teacher and I make HALF of what these people make. The LIBRARIAN >>in my school makes $10,000 more than me per year!!! Are you serious?? She sits in the >>library all day, changes the radio station periodically and waters plants. >>Meanwhile, I am teaching 125 students daily, grading papers, administering >>assessments, etc. I am an idiot, I need to be a librarian!!! What a joke!

Do schools even still have librarians? What kid in 2012 uses a library? They all have internet and cell phones now. What a waste of taxpayers money!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: outlandish use of support people ()
Date: February 16, 2013 01:02PM

Lots of the "specialists" organize bookcases and water plants for salaries that the real teachers dream about. I have seen it---waste is out there. If they could root out the waste, they might be able to pay the teachers a bit more. Even if they couldn't, at least the teachers would not feel like chumps for working so hard. Those "specialists" cause a lot of bad feelings in the schools. EVERYONE needs to be in classrooms with accountability (that means responsibility for diagnosing, creating lessons, and grading of students). Without that type of classroom accountability, these people say they are helping, but they also say "that's not my job" and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The admin. has those people around so they can say they are helping if anyone complains about a teacher, but the teachers have no respect for these people (and to be fair, the "specialists" have no power over the teachers anyway). The whole thing is a complete waste.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Maria ()
Date: February 16, 2013 08:48PM

$43,000

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bonnie ()
Date: February 16, 2013 09:14PM

Really? And how would you know this? I'm an administrative Assistant, I have a college degree, I earn $43,000 after ten years in the county, I haven't received a raise in three years, I don't use my county computer for anything but work-related activities......One shouldn't give opinions on things they know nothing about. Generalizing is for lazy minds.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: frosty Budz ()
Date: February 16, 2013 09:32PM

What is Shelly jones Carney making ?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Durrr ()
Date: February 16, 2013 09:50PM

Bonnie Wrote:
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> Really? And how would you know this? I'm an
> administrative Assistant, I have a college degree,
> I earn $43,000 after ten years in the county, I
> haven't received a raise in three years, I don't
> use my county computer for anything but
> work-related activities......One shouldn't give
> opinions on things they know nothing about.
> Generalizing is for lazy minds.


We know because they published the salaries dummy. lol

Because you're stuck in a low-paying job after 10 years with a degree doesn't mean everyone else is. You'd think that you could have in that time at least worked up to attendance officer to be making $70K plus.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Dewey Decimal ()
Date: February 17, 2013 09:29AM

Emily 145 wrote:

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> Do schools even still have librarians? What kid in 2012 uses a library? They all > > have internet and cell phones now. What a waste of taxpayers money!

How ignorant are you?

Not everyone has a cell phone and internet access and not all materials are available on-line. Wikipedia is NOT an acceptable substitution for a library and librarians not only assist in organizing and locating materials they help those that need it access those materials

Libraries also happen to be great study areas for those so inclined. Obviously you have never been in one.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FIRE HIGH SCHOOL READING TEACHER ()
Date: February 26, 2013 07:13PM

why are we still having reading teachers at every high school? WE NEED TO FIRE THEM

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: dumb dumb ()
Date: February 26, 2013 08:00PM

Sadly, many high school students still read several grade levels below, so these teachers are actually deperately needed-particularly for SPED.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: slubdawg ()
Date: February 27, 2013 08:22AM

Zion McKinney played for the Redskins. He's a great guy as well. I recall hearing a story once that he saw a kid with dope in school and was going to take him to the office. The kid tried to run from him, well that didn't work out so well, as McKinney who was a defensive back caught him in like 3 strides!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Flushing $$ down the toilet... ()
Date: February 27, 2013 09:21AM

dumb dumb Wrote:
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> Sadly, many high school students still read
> several grade levels below, so these teachers are
> actually deperately needed-particularly for SPED.

We should take a page from China on this. At a certain point they weed out the hopeless cases and train them to work in factories/trades/etc. Only the kids that can make the grade are allowed to continue their education. That's part of the reason why the Asian countries rank so high in education and we rank so low.

If you can't READ by the time you reach high school then I don't see any reason why the taxpayers should continue to fund your (obviously ineffective) education.

Also, if you can't read then how the fuck did you even make it to high school? The teachers should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Not EA Poe ()
Date: February 27, 2013 09:32AM

dumb dumb Wrote:
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> Sadly, many high school students still read
> several grade levels below, so these teachers are
> actually deperately needed-particularly for SPED.


One reason that kids are having trouble reading is that people like you have trouble writing. The word is "desperately," dunb dumb.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: HA-HA ()
Date: February 27, 2013 09:38AM

Not EA Poe Wrote:
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> dumb dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sadly, many high school students still read
> > several grade levels below, so these teachers
> are
> > actually deperately needed-particularly for
> SPED.
>
>
> One reason that kids are having trouble reading is
> that people like you have trouble writing. The
> word is "desperately," dunb dumb.


dunb dumb, that's funny because you were telling someone they couldn't write.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fact-check first ()
Date: February 27, 2013 10:07AM

The commonwealth of Virginia does not allow unions; it is known as a right to work state.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Check those Facts again ()
Date: February 27, 2013 11:47AM

fact-check first Wrote:
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> The commonwealth of Virginia does not allow
> unions; it is known as a right to work state.

And you should have fact-checked the definition of a right to work state.

There most certainly are unions in Virginia, they just can't FORCE you to join the union or pay dues.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: oldrobin ()
Date: February 27, 2013 03:16PM

The ignorant and unemployable always think that other people are making too much. None of these salaries are over the top for this area. And for the idiots that think teachers get summer off, well think again. Oftentimes they get stuck going back to college during the and on their own dime. It's amazing how the stupid always lambaste those that don't believe ignorance should be worn as a badge of honor.

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Posted by: Untapped resources ()
Date: February 27, 2013 03:26PM

oldrobin Wrote:
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> The ignorant and unemployable always think that
> other people are making too much. None of these
> salaries are over the top for this area. And for
> the idiots that think teachers get summer off,
> well think again. Oftentimes they get stuck going
> back to college during the and on their own dime.
> It's amazing how the stupid always lambaste those
> that don't believe ignorance should be worn as a
> badge of honor.

Really? I have several teachers in my family and they don't do shit over the summer. And the few times they were required to take a class it was paid for by the county.

Since we're paying the teachers anyway, we should put them to work doing other things during the summer. Many schools get thoroughly cleaned and painted over the summer, so I say we just have the teachers do that. It would be a good way to save money. They can also cut the grass and do the landscaping. More money saved.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: What planet R U from? ()
Date: February 27, 2013 03:33PM

Untapped resources Wrote:
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> oldrobin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The ignorant and unemployable always think that
> > other people are making too much. None of
> these
> > salaries are over the top for this area. And
> for
> > the idiots that think teachers get summer off,
> > well think again. Oftentimes they get stuck
> going
> > back to college during the and on their own
> dime.
> > It's amazing how the stupid always lambaste
> those
> > that don't believe ignorance should be worn as
> a
> > badge of honor.
>
> Really? I have several teachers in my family and
> they don't do shit over the summer. And the few
> times they were required to take a class it was
> paid for by the county.
>
> Since we're paying the teachers anyway, we should
> put them to work doing other things during the
> summer. Many schools get thoroughly cleaned and
> painted over the summer, so I say we just have the
> teachers do that. It would be a good way to save
> money. They can also cut the grass and do the
> landscaping. More money saved.


Most all teachers get paid all year long, but that's because they have the 12 month paycheck, they get less each month to spread it out over 12 months. They make more if they Volunteer to work Summer School. A little like you paying taxes, you either keep your money each month or get a refund at the end of the year. But if you think they are free loading I suggest you become a teacher and get in on the action rather than Bitch about it. Maybe then you could educate us properly =) BTW what do you do?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Pass. ()
Date: February 27, 2013 03:42PM

What planet R U from? Wrote:
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>
>
> Most all teachers get paid all year long, but
> that's because they have the 12 month paycheck,
> they get less each month to spread it out over 12
> months. They make more if they Volunteer to work
> Summer School. A little like you paying taxes, you
> either keep your money each month or get a refund
> at the end of the year. But if you think they are
> free loading I suggest you become a teacher and
> get in on the action rather than Bitch about it.
> Maybe then you could educate us properly =) BTW
> what do you do?

No thanks, I don't want to freeload.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Let Them Eat Cake ()
Date: February 27, 2013 03:44PM

Untapped resources Wrote:
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> oldrobin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The ignorant and unemployable always think that
> > other people are making too much. None of
> these
> > salaries are over the top for this area. And
> for
> > the idiots that think teachers get summer off,
> > well think again. Oftentimes they get stuck
> going
> > back to college during the and on their own
> dime.
> > It's amazing how the stupid always lambaste
> those
> > that don't believe ignorance should be worn as
> a
> > badge of honor.
>
> Really? I have several teachers in my family and
> they don't do shit over the summer. And the few
> times they were required to take a class it was
> paid for by the county.
>
> Since we're paying the teachers anyway, we should
> put them to work doing other things during the
> summer. Many schools get thoroughly cleaned and
> painted over the summer, so I say we just have the
> teachers do that. It would be a good way to save
> money. They can also cut the grass and do the
> landscaping. More money saved.

What an arrogant post (and no, I'm not a teacher). Teachers are not 'the hired help'. We pay them to teach - not to do manual labor. How would you feel if you had a slow day at the office, and the boss told you to go clean the toilets? Somehow I don't think you'd handle it well.

I bet most of the people who resent teacher pay are useless bureaucrats or overpaid contractors. Most of the teachers I've met have been hard-working and well meaning. I don't resent their pay, especially given the students and parents that they have to deal with.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ignorance loves company ()
Date: February 27, 2013 04:15PM

Let Them Eat Cake Wrote:
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>
> What an arrogant post (and no, I'm not a teacher).
> Teachers are not 'the hired help'. We pay them to
> teach - not to do manual labor. How would you feel
> if you had a slow day at the office, and the boss
> told you to go clean the toilets? Somehow I don't
> think you'd handle it well.
>
> I bet most of the people who resent teacher pay
> are useless bureaucrats or overpaid contractors.
> Most of the teachers I've met have been
> hard-working and well meaning. I don't resent
> their pay, especially given the students and
> parents that they have to deal with.

Actually its pretty typical for people who work at small companies to help out in other areas besides their normal job.

And there's nothing degrading about manual labor. It would probably do some good for stuck-up assholes like yourself to get your hands dirty once and a while.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: WTFFFFFFF ()
Date: March 03, 2013 11:33AM

Barr, Jeffrey A
Behavior Management Teacher
Fairfax Ridge
$71,378

WTF IT THIS

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Date: March 03, 2013 04:51PM

You should certainly give some of your money back then.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Date: March 03, 2013 04:58PM

Unfortunately, not all children are properly socialized by their parents and are out of control in the classroom. Instead of allowing this to completely interrupt the education of the entire class, that student is sent to "the office". The student counseled by the behavior management officer. Of course, this is not just one student in one class. A middle school in FCPS has between 300 & 500 students. High schools, even more. This might give you an idea of why this position is necessary.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Let Them Eat Cake ()
Date: March 03, 2013 05:40PM

Ignorance loves company Wrote:
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> Let Them Eat Cake Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > What an arrogant post (and no, I'm not a
> teacher).
> > Teachers are not 'the hired help'. We pay them
> to
> > teach - not to do manual labor. How would you
> feel
> > if you had a slow day at the office, and the
> boss
> > told you to go clean the toilets? Somehow I
> don't
> > think you'd handle it well.
> >
> > I bet most of the people who resent teacher pay
> > are useless bureaucrats or overpaid
> contractors.
> > Most of the teachers I've met have been
> > hard-working and well meaning. I don't resent
> > their pay, especially given the students and
> > parents that they have to deal with.
>
> Actually its pretty typical for people who work at
> small companies to help out in other areas besides
> their normal job.
>
> And there's nothing degrading about manual labor.
> It would probably do some good for stuck-up
> assholes like yourself to get your hands dirty
> once and a while.

You're right, there is nothing degrading about manual labor. I worked as a waitress and chambermaid for five years to pay for the two master's degrees I have now. Taught me a lot - not the least of which was to respect the people who do this work. And I've done many things outside the scope of my job description in different companies. But if someone asked me to paint the office or clean the floors, I'd be offended and would probably quit. I stand by my statement that it would be inappropriate and insulting to expect teachers to do this type of work.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TAX PAYER ()
Date: March 06, 2013 01:26PM

Good money for just sitting around Keep in mind they don't do a thing

Gallagher, Debbie L
Kindergarten Assistant
Terraset Elementary School
$31,416

Gates, Susan J
Kindergarten Assistant
Woodley Hills Elementary School
$37,952


Gerow, Susan K
Kindergarten Assistant
Silverbrook Elementary School
$41,227

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: GETTING PAID 2X MY SALARIES ()
Date: March 06, 2013 01:34PM

Hillenbrand, John H
Physical Education Teacher, ES
Westgate Elementary School
$77,791

MY SON'S gym teacher and his a lill overweight.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: March 06, 2013 03:43PM

GETTING PAID 2X MY SALARIES Wrote:
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> Hillenbrand, John H
> Physical Education Teacher, ES
> Westgate Elementary School
> $77,791
>
> MY SON'S gym teacher and his a lill overweight.


Let me guess, you live in Pimmit Hills.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: BYE BYE FRENCH AND JAPANSEE TEAC ()
Date: March 07, 2013 06:16PM

Agnant, Nathalie C
French Language Teacher, ES
Herndon Elementary School
$45,161

bye bye miss lady......
Lawless, Jonathan W
Japanese Language Teacher, HS
Oakton High School
$53,262



Bentz, Akiko K
Japanese Language Teacher, ES
Great Falls Elementary School
$65,37

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: pop ()
Date: March 07, 2013 06:35PM

What planet R U from? Wrote:
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> Most all teachers get paid all year long, but
> that's because they have the 12 month paycheck,
> they get less each month to spread it out over 12
> months...


No they don't. The "Summer Pay" option is no more. Gone, never to return, Finito, the end (it died last year).

But I suppose we'll still be hearing about it for thirty or forty more years. News like that travels s l o w.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: I don understand ()
Date: April 11, 2013 03:27PM

Bartus, Camille A Wellness Program Specialist Gatehouse Administration Center I $101,413


WHAT IS THAT

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: 11yearoldgaykid ()
Date: April 11, 2013 06:34PM

can anyone tell me how much mr. Park makes?
math teacher at stuart hs.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: MS.park ()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:17PM

11yearoldgaykid Wrote:
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> can anyone tell me how much mr. Park makes?
> math teacher at stuart hs.


Park, Linus S Mathematics Teacher, HS Stuart High School $51,957


not much is he young?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Poor Mr. Linus ()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:21PM

Stone cold broke. Poor man.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Step 3 ()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:18PM

MS.park Wrote:
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> 11yearoldgaykid Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > can anyone tell me how much mr. Park makes?
> > math teacher at stuart hs.
>
>
> Park, Linus S Mathematics Teacher, HS Stuart High
> School $51,957
>
>
> not much is he young?

That's MA degree, step 3 pay.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Enough Already ()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:21AM

You people are so cluelessly stupid on the subject of teacher salaries it isn't even funny anymore.

Get a life. Get a career. Get a clue. Get an education. Get a hobby. Get a girlfriend, boyfriend, wife or husband. Get over your insecurities.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: MyTeacher ()
Date: April 12, 2013 08:02AM

Yup he's my ib math studies teacher. He's like 26 or so.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: kid1 ()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:01PM

Enough Already Wrote:
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> You people are so cluelessly stupid on the subject
> of teacher salaries it isn't even funny anymore.
>
>
> Get a life. Get a career. Get a clue. Get an
> education. Get a hobby. Get a girlfriend,
> boyfriend, wife or husband. Get over your
> insecurities.


Are you mad cause we know yout salariy?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Sped teacher ()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:04PM

An important thing to remember here is relative surplus value. Teachers generate an enormous surplus value for what they do. I calculated mine at about $500,000 per year, assuming all of my seniors graduate (they are all on track). As long as we aren't paying teachers into the half million mark, the economy will reap the benefits.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Wowza ()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:19PM

I am completely appalled to see that a physics teacher only makes 29,000 a year. Outlandish!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Saint Educator ()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:31PM

Oh, finally the secret of teacher salaries and school administrators are revealed! I thought the educational industry was a missionary volunteer service. How dare educational employees get paid a living wage! Even despite the fact that most of them have years of undergrad, doctorate, and post doctorate training.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Witch Hunt ()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:41PM

Dear Outlandish,

Please tell us what you do for a living and how much your annual income is. (I sense a little resentment on your behalf and wonder if you don't make a humble living wage like educational professionals in Fairfax County do.)

Sincerely,
Stop the Witch Hunt

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Teach ()
Date: April 15, 2013 09:53AM

The "whole summer" is 8 weeks. Since my husband and I are both teachers he works two jobs for four of the 8 weeks so we can afford our townhouse in the next county over from where we work. We have four degrees between us and, if I worked full time, we would make almost $120,000. If you think that's that a lot of money in Nova you are crazy. I have friends who don't have any degrees who make as much as we do. And we're still paying student loans. With the cost of living we will be chased out of here if we ever want a house with a yard for our one child. Not to worry, people, the suits are creating a system in which anybody will be able to come in and teach your children so you won't be forced to share your precious money with schmucks like us. Or you will have the opportunity to send your kids to private school which is what I would do if I could afford it.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Enough Already ()
Date: April 15, 2013 07:53PM

kid1 wrote:
----------------------------------------

>Are you mad cause we know yout salariy?

Yes I'm mad because you know my salariy. What the hell is a "salariy"??? Moron.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Interested party ()
Date: April 22, 2013 12:01PM

90,000 for a teacher means 90,000. Teachers have to take money from there paychecks throughout nine months so that they can receive funds during the suumer months. They are not paid for work the other three months.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Total Scam ()
Date: April 22, 2013 12:41PM

Teach Wrote:
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> The "whole summer" is 8 weeks. Since my husband
> and I are both teachers he works two jobs for four
> of the 8 weeks so we can afford our townhouse in
> the next county over from where we work. We have
> four degrees between us and, if I worked full
> time, we would make almost $120,000. If you think
> that's that a lot of money in Nova you are crazy.
> I have friends who don't have any degrees who make
> as much as we do. And we're still paying student
> loans. With the cost of living we will be chased
> out of here if we ever want a house with a yard
> for our one child. Not to worry, people, the suits
> are creating a system in which anybody will be
> able to come in and teach your children so you
> won't be forced to share your precious money with
> schmucks like us. Or you will have the opportunity
> to send your kids to private school which is what
> I would do if I could afford it.

All of the schooling required to become a teacher is ridiculous. And assuming your story is true, being an education major has a really bad ROI.

You shouldn't need a masters degree for anything under college level teaching. Hell, you should be able to teach K-5 with an associates degree. Natural teaching ability should be emphasized over a pile of meaningless degrees.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: labor economics folks ()
Date: April 22, 2013 12:47PM

Teachers can whine all day long about being underpaid but the truth is that FCPS is FLOODED with applicants each year....yes flooded.

Many people are willing to work for these so called paltry wages, so why should FCPS pay more than the "going rate"?

Teachers are no different than any other profession. Employers adjust wages paid based on the labor supply/demand.

The only teachers who should be paid more are the highly qualified teachers-those teaching high level math and science classes. Those jobs are in fact hard to fill.

ANYONE can teach 3rd grade math or science---not true with high level math/science classes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: more than subject knowledge ()
Date: April 22, 2013 03:30PM

labor economics folks wrote:

> ANYONE can teach 3rd grade math or science

Hardly. Teaching is more than knowing the subject matter. I'd bet that more than 90 percent of you idiots on this thread don't even know enough 3rd grade math or science to teach 1 kid let alone have the ability to plan out a year's worth of lessons, interact with parents and administrators, relate to your students...ALL of your students...manage the personalities of 30 8 and 9 years olds and have them pass their required tests year in and year out.

The fact is that it takes more skill to teach ANY subject at any grade level than anyone on this thread realizes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: management skills ()
Date: April 22, 2013 04:09PM

Classroom management. That is the difference between a teacher and someone who just knows the subject matter. Kids talk, they fidget, some may get their work done faster than others, and a teacher has to figure out how to make all these little moving parts work together to create a productive learning environment for the WHOLE CLASS. That requires major skills. I couldn't do it; I wouldn't do it. Even for the perk of having off the entire month of July.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: dishonest ()
Date: April 22, 2013 04:24PM

more than subject knowledge Wrote:
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> labor economics folks wrote:
>
> > ANYONE can teach 3rd grade math or science
>
> Hardly. Teaching is more than knowing the subject
> matter. I'd bet that more than 90 percent of you
> idiots on this thread don't even know enough 3rd
> grade math or science to teach 1 kid let alone
> have the ability to plan out a year's worth of
> lessons, interact with parents and administrators,
> relate to your students...ALL of your
> students...manage the personalities of 30 8 and 9
> years olds and have them pass their required tests
> year in and year out.
>
> The fact is that it takes more skill to teach ANY
> subject at any grade level than anyone on this
> thread realizes.


let alone
> have the ability to plan out a year's worth of
> lessons,

mostly done for you by others and repeated year after year.

interact with parents and administrators,

Sounds hard

> relate to your students.

Most of us have kids ourselves and "relate" to them 24/7.

and have them pass their required tests
> year in and year out.

Many teachers can't accomplish this.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teachers are "A" for awesome ()
Date: April 22, 2013 04:30PM

WASHINGTON - Police in Nicaragua have detained one of the FBI's ten most-wanted fugitives, child-porn suspect Eric Justin Toth.

The head of detectives for Nicaragua's National Police force says Toth was detained near the Honduran border.

Glenda Zavala said Monday that Toth had been detained Saturday, based on an international detention request.

The former Washington D.C. elementary school teacher faces accusations he possessed and produced child pornography.

He lost his teaching job in 2008 after another teacher found images of child pornography on a school camera in Toth's possession. He then disappeared.

The FBI had offered a $100,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the 31-year-old Toth

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Bell Curve ()
Date: April 22, 2013 04:41PM

more than subject knowledge Wrote:
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> labor economics folks wrote:
>
> > ANYONE can teach 3rd grade math or science
>
> Hardly. Teaching is more than knowing the subject
> matter. I'd bet that more than 90 percent of you
> idiots on this thread don't even know enough 3rd
> grade math or science to teach 1 kid let alone
> have the ability to plan out a year's worth of
> lessons, interact with parents and administrators,
> relate to your students...ALL of your
> students...manage the personalities of 30 8 and 9
> years olds and have them pass their required tests
> year in and year out.
>
> The fact is that it takes more skill to teach ANY
> subject at any grade level than anyone on this
> thread realizes.

Sure, sure. We've all heard this song and dance before

Teaching is more complicated than astrophysics and heart surgery combined, teachers should be paid $500K, they really work 15 months per year, only 0.5% of the population is smart enough to teach someone the multiplication tables, etc, etc.

Give me a break. Teaching is no different that any other profession. And like most other professions only a very small percentage are really good, most are mediocre, and some are downright lousy.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: another awesome teacher ()
Date: April 22, 2013 04:49PM

By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 08:57 EST, 22 April 2013 | UPDATED: 09:25 EST, 22 April 2013


..A popular music teacher with a 27-year career, is under investigation for keeping child pornography on his computer, some of which includes disturbing pictures of his own students in their classrooms.

Lawrence Joynes, 54, a teacher for 10 years at New Hampshire Estates Elementary School in Montgomery County, Maryland, was arrested in February after police traced emails between him and a suspected child porn producer.
A collection of disturbing photographs, recovered by police show Joynes sticking his finger into the mouths of 'approximately seven' students and putting a peppermint stick into a young girl's mouth.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: two x two = six ()
Date: April 22, 2013 05:17PM

Teaching is NOT more complicated than astrophysics and heart surgery combined and teachers should not be paid 500k per year and work 15 months and .5% of the population is smart enough to teach multiplication tables, etc, etc.

No one has said that except "another awesome teacher". Get over yourself dude.

Since this is a thread bashing teachers salaries it's only fair to respond to the questions and criticism directed their way. Why isn't anyone bashing MD salaries and pilot salaries and IT Tech salaries, plumbers, electricians, etc, etc?

The point is, it takes skill and training to teach just like it takes skill and training to fix a car, fly a plane, design a building, wire a house, write a computer program and anything else. No, teaching does not require the same skills, training and interest level as those careers, but it does take skill and training.

To say that teaching a 3rd grader is something "anyone" can do is ridiculous.

And who the Hell said everyone is really good at teaching?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 22, 2013 05:33PM

Back in the 70's and 80's, teaching elementary was a job for women, not for a male head of household.

While America needs and should value it's teachers, we shouldn't get so carried away and overcompensate them for their 9 months of work.

Truth is, many teachers understand where the butter for their bread comes from and constantly piss and moan of how "hard they work" and how "dangerous" teaching is. Give us a break!

Now if you are teaching the hard sciences, it's something else entirely. But teaching elementary kids w/o language or learning problems is basic human nature- just above the act of babysitting.


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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: too hard ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:06PM

From the 3rd grade SOL Test:

I'd have to go back to college if I had to teach kids this stuff.....



Fred’s Nature Store sold 2,046 pounds of birdseed last month.
What is 2,046 rounded to the nearest hundred?
A 2,000
B 2,040
C 2,100
D 3,000

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: my brain hurts ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:07PM

7 Which is true?



4,609> 4,708
4,709> 4,708
4,389> 4,708
4,589> 4,708

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: PHD required ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:08PM

9 Which of the following shows “one hundred
thirty thousand, sixty-nine” in standard form?
A 100,369
B 130,069
C 130,690
D 1,003,069

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: no bonus this year ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:13PM

yes, I know the questions were difficult.

Sadly, just 70% of FCPS 3rd graders passed this test.

Jack Dale explained it was because the test was "harder" than in previous years.

Seriously?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Natalie G. ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:18PM

how much does mr. Scheerbaum earn? He doesn't even teach, he goes to youtube and plays the lesson from some teacher who posted those videos. It's cool tho cause I have B right now, buts still

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: 6th grade IS hard to teach! ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:19PM

5 A bicycle shop has 8 bicycles that sell for $298.75 each. Which is closest to
the total cost of all the bicycles?
A $300
B $800
C $2,000
D $2,400

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: NO WAY I could teach this stuff ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:21PM

A carpet cleaning company charged $99.99 to clean 3 rooms in a house and
$29.99 for each extra room. What is the total amount of money the company
would charge to clean 5 rooms in the house?
F $189.96
G $159.97
H $149.95
J $129.98

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Kenya ()
Date: April 22, 2013 07:53PM

GYM teachers earn more money than my broke ass math teacher lol

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: curious1 ()
Date: April 24, 2013 03:31PM

Where do you all find these salaries listed by person?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Foia ()
Date: April 24, 2013 05:05PM

curious1 Wrote:
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> Where do you all find these salaries listed by
> person?


its called a FOIA request email Brandy Reaves
Public Information Specialist, FOIA Officer
8115 Gatehouse Rd.,
Falls Church, VA 22042
Email: Brandynn.Reaves@FCPS.edu

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Horsefeathers ()
Date: April 24, 2013 07:12PM

Thank you, Fairfax County teachers!! You work hard and for modest pay.

Please disregard the imbeciles and ingrates who post here.

Sadly, class resentment rhetoric has become a sign of our times. (thank you, Obama).

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: nana53 ()
Date: May 12, 2013 05:53PM

I think in all fairness the years worked and years and hours of education should be posted too. I have a friend who has a bachelor, masters, and 30 hours beyond that and more than 20 years experience. She makes 60,00 and it's a job I wouldn't have for double that. With the education she has she could have been a lawyer and quadrupeled her salary...but she didn't want to lie for a living.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Not really ()
Date: May 12, 2013 07:39PM

While this teacher appreciates the sentiment, unless this person doesn't work a full schedule they should be making over 81K

nana53 Wrote:
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> I think in all fairness the years worked and years
> and hours of education should be posted too. I
> have a friend who has a bachelor, masters, and 30
> hours beyond that and more than 20 years
> experience. She makes 60,00 and it's a job I
> wouldn't have for double that. With the education
> she has she could have been a lawyer and
> quadrupeled her salary...but she didn't want to
> lie for a living.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tax Payer ()
Date: May 12, 2013 10:52PM

I have the salries of MOCO I will post them in OFF posted

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: gotta know ()
Date: May 14, 2013 12:37PM

You got the salary for Sherelle East?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: competition for teachers ()
Date: May 14, 2013 10:02PM

Highest salaries in DC metro area are in Montgomery County. After that comes DC, Alexandria, Arlington and I think Falls Church. Prince William might even be ahead of Fairfax (especially after health insurance and the local pension that FFX deducts). Fairfax comes in just ahead of Prince Georges County. Not good.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tax Payer ()
Date: May 14, 2013 10:27PM

competition for teachers Wrote:
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> Highest salaries in DC metro area are in
> Montgomery County. After that comes DC,
> Alexandria, Arlington and I think Falls Church.
> Prince William might even be ahead of Fairfax
> (especially after health insurance and the local
> pension that FFX deducts). Fairfax comes in just
> ahead of Prince Georges County. Not good.


I posted PGCS Salaires and PWCS in OFF Topic a couple months ago

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ahahahaha ()
Date: June 01, 2013 09:47AM

People are just ignorant. I agree that all these teachers deserve what they make. FCPS is one of the highest ranked in the nation #1. #2 theses people spend more than 8 hours a day dedicating themselves to educated the individuals that will inherit our nation and effect the world. No matter what they teach or what roll within the system they have their efforts make a difference in not only the lives of our kids but in everyone's lives.. EVEN the cosmetology teachers and security guards.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: toss 'em out ()
Date: June 01, 2013 10:54AM

FFX schools are bloated and the test scores inflated. Use the power of the vote, tell your county supervisor to stop rubber stamping every school budget that comes down the line.

Taxpayers should not pay for the Fairfax band trip to the Rose Parade. If it is that important, let the Rose Parade people pay for it or let the band families pay for it.

I don't want to pay for it or a lot of this other crap. I'll vote for Cuccinelli if he will lower taxes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Vet teacher and taxpayer ()
Date: June 01, 2013 08:11PM

No taxpayer money helps pay for any school field trip. The students who are going to the Rose Bowl pay their own way. They do aggressive fundraising, but no one has the obligation to contribute. If you want to go after the teachers and administration, go for it in your mean-spirited manner, but don't imperil opportunities for our students that are once-in-a-lifetime experiences with your unfounded allegations. And if you're so concerned about taxes remember that the less FCPS schools are funded the less desirable it will be for businesses to move here and strengthen the tax base. Right now in the area we rank only above Prince Georges County in compensation. That's really a sad state of affairs!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Erin ()
Date: June 08, 2013 08:10PM

Yes, how dare they actually pay people a living wage to educate kids in one of the highest rated school systems in the country. These people should teach for free out of the goodness of their hearts. Perhaps they can pay their student loans off with prostitution.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: some observations ()
Date: July 06, 2013 01:34PM

I stumbled upon this post on accident, but I couldn't stop reading once I started. One thing I saw over and over that is simply incorrect is this nonsense about teachers have 3 months off. Here is how to figure out the real answer. First, pick up a calendar and turn to where it says "June." Put your finger on the 20th. That is when most teachers were able to leave for the summer. If you look under the 20th, you'll see the number 27. That means one week has passed. Continue doing that until you get to August 26th. By my count, it's 9 weeks and a few days. It might be okay to round up by 33% when you are working in the private sector and are typing up invoices, but when you are trying to argue a point about "time off for teachers" it's not. So that's about 360 hours less per year than a typical 9-5 job. We'll come back to 360 in a minute.

How many private sector employees get an hour or more for lunch? MOST! Drive by a fast food area on a weekday and it looks like a job fair. It must be nice to get to go have a hot sit down meal everyday. I have friends that go to the gym for an hour and THEN eat lunch. Students only have 30 minutes to eat, so teachers get less. The students don't walk out the door and appear in the cafeteria. Teachers have to walk them there and make sure they are all set. Teachers are lucky if they have 25 minutes to eat once they get back to their classrooms. That's about enough time to get out your food, shove it in your mouth, and send an email. Since other jobs give you an hour, let's go ahead and give that 30 minutes back to teachers as working for "free." That's 90 hours over the course of the year.

Another thing many of you fail to realize is that salary is only based on contract hours. Most elementary school contract hours start 15 minutes before the bell and 15 minutes after school. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to be a highly effective classroom teacher with only 30 minutes of planning time per day. Drive by an elementary school an hour or two after school and count how many cars are still there. Those are teachers staying late and working. If a teacher stays for one hour extra per day, (and the good ones do), that's an additional 180 hours per school year. So 90 + 180 = 270.

How many private sector jobs require additional UNPAID hours outside of work for conferences, meetings and events? VERY FEW. During parent conference days, teachers will easily work an extra 10 hours. During report cards, that's easily another 10 hours of work per quarter. They are also required to attend at least 15 hours of school events per year. 270 + 65 = 335.

So where are those pesky 25 more hours that private sector jobs work that teachers don't? Let me think... Sitting on the toilet, cigarette breaks, surfing online, 10 extra minutes at lunch, chatting at the water cooler, checking your fantasy team, skipping out early of Fridays, starting late on Mondays, running out for a coffee, , catching a workout during lunch, checking out the hottie on the 2nd floor, and complaining about your outlandish FCPS salaries. Teachers get to do exactly ZERO of those things during the course of the day.

Next time you want to complain about the worth of other people, take a look in the mirror. Most teachers earn less than they deserve.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: bussin ()
Date: July 06, 2013 02:32PM

Hourly FCPS employees have it even worse than teachers. Summer is a period of U N E M P L O Y M E N T. And through a special deal with the State, we are NOT eligible for jobless benefits.

So, I spend my summer "vacation" driving an asphalt dump truck on paving projects. It's hot, dangerous (ever wonder why cops are assigned to paving?) work. Most of it is done at night which takes getting used to.

I do what I have to do, I just don't want to hear that I'm on a fucking vacation.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: the show must go on ()
Date: July 06, 2013 02:55PM

How many of the people posting here have to get someone to "cover" their work while they go to the bathroom? Teachers have to call a colleague who is on a prep period or whose students happen to be at PE class in order to go to the bathroom. The teacher can't just leave the room. Students are never to be left unsupervised. If anything were to happen without supervision, the teacher would likely lose her teaching license (among other things).

How many people posting here have to call someone to do their job when they get sick? How many have to plan for that person who is there when they are sick and follow up on things that didn't go well?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: SOL tests are easy!! ()
Date: July 06, 2013 09:16PM

I've noticed many posts with 3rd grade SOL questions that have been posted in an attempt to simplify teaching as a profession. Those are probably questions from the 3rd grade SOL and many adults would know the answer without even thinking. Although, I'd bet you'd be surprised at how many adults would get those questions wrong.... but that's another story altogether. Let's get back to the 8 year old kids.

Do you have an eight year old child? Have you ever spent 8 hours per day with one? They are not as independent as the child you imagine. They are not the kid from Two and a Half Men making millions. Have you ever spent 8 hours with 25 eight year olds? Those of you out there claiming to know what the hell it is like to spend 8 hours with 25 kids are all full of sh*t. Unless you've done it.... SHUT THE UCK UP!!! You don't know ISHT!!

If you spent as much time worrying about being a good mother/father/uncle/aunt/grandma/grandpa/cousin/friend as you did bitching about teacher salaries... maybe the next generation wouldn't be a bunch of spoiled brats!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: k ()
Date: August 02, 2013 10:46PM

Too bad you aren't giving all the information. Some of the teachers have been working more than 20 years in their position and should be getting even higher. If you had any Clue what it takes to be a teacher, you wouldn't be making this page. Your pathetic and I'd love to know your name and what you do for a living instead of being a chicken shit and hiding behind a computer screen. Let me guess...your mom didn't love you enough and your dad thought you were a loser so you're trying to get attention by giving out others successful info. How's that pizza delivery going? Didnt graduate from high school huh so you're angry at the system. So sad....

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Working Mom ()
Date: August 07, 2013 02:24PM

These salaries are heavy handed, especially for the administrators. It seems that pay was increased during good times but not deflated during the recession. The teachers are very well paid also, considering that they get to spend time with their own children over the summer or make extra money watching other people's kids. The ones who suffer are the new, energetic, young teachers.

In defense of the person who listed the salaries, it is also good to keep for the public to know where their tax dollars go. My property tax increased 30 % in the past 2 years. Now, I know why.

About me - I am a working mom of 3. I have a B.S. degree from a top 20 public university. I work right through summer when the cost of child care exceeds my take home pay. I have to leave work early on Mondays to get my children due to early release. SACC for Monday early release ONLY would be wonderful. I get treated as though I am an aloof parent because I do work. I spent extra money this summer on math tutoring for 2 of my 3 due to the high quality of education being produced by these high salaried people. FCPS Summer education programs are not located near my home or my work because I am considered to be rich. HA! I make less and pay out more as a result than some of these people here.

Real solutions involves offering real teaching to all students. My kids can't take notes because hand writing is barely taught. If these people had to be accountable for their output, many of them would not get raises.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Music IS worth it ()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:55AM

You know these teachers have been working for years and put in the time in the county, same as english teachers, math teachers, science teachers, etc? They put in just as much time teaching the subject that they were hired for. They aren't being paid more than someone teaching the same amount of time.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Music IS worth it ()
Date: August 30, 2013 10:57AM

TEACHERS ARE 10 MONTH EMPLOYEES. WE DON'T GET PAID DURING THE SUMMER.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: MrManager987 ()
Date: August 30, 2013 11:16AM

If people think this is bad you should see salaries of IT workers with almost no skills. Take a few cyber security exams, get a clearance, welcome to 6 figures for not doing much.

At least most teachers care and are passionate. Yes some are overpaid but this happens in many industries.

They live in one of the most expensive areas in the country. You want them to be paid minimum wage?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Judge Fairly ()
Date: August 30, 2013 11:56AM

Working Mom Wrote:
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> My kids can't take notes because hand writing is barely
> taught. If these people had to be accountable for their
> output, many of them would not get raises.

If parents had to be accountable for the trash they dump off on the schools, many of them would be in jail. If your kid has not mastered hand-writing by the age at which note-taking skills become important, that's YOUR FAULT!!! You deserve a long and harsh sentence.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Judge Fairly ()
Date: August 30, 2013 12:03PM

MrManager987 Wrote:
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> They live in one of the most expensive areas in
> the country. You want them to be paid minimum
> wage?

Face it. The ignoramuses of the right-wing want first class services, low taxes, and no deficits. If they had graduated from the tenth grade, they would have realized by now that you can have any two of those things, but not all three. They still don't get it though. They just keep on with the STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. They want it all without paying for any of it.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Beet ()
Date: August 30, 2013 12:18PM

Working Mom Wrote:
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> These salaries are heavy handed, especially for
> the administrators. It seems that pay was
> increased during good times but not deflated
> during the recession. The teachers are very well
> paid also, considering that they get to spend time
> with their own children over the summer or make
> extra money watching other people's kids. The
> ones who suffer are the new, energetic, young
> teachers.
>
> In defense of the person who listed the salaries,
> it is also good to keep for the public to know
> where their tax dollars go. My property tax
> increased 30 % in the past 2 years. Now, I know
> why.
>
> About me - I am a working mom of 3. I have a B.S.
> degree from a top 20 public university. I work
> right through summer when the cost of child care
> exceeds my take home pay. I have to leave work
> early on Mondays to get my children due to early
> release. SACC for Monday early release ONLY would
> be wonderful. I get treated as though I am an
> aloof parent because I do work. I spent extra
> money this summer on math tutoring for 2 of my 3
> due to the high quality of education being
> produced by these high salaried people. FCPS
> Summer education programs are not located near my
> home or my work because I am considered to be
> rich. HA! I make less and pay out more as a
> result than some of these people here.
>
> Real solutions involves offering real teaching to
> all students. My kids can't take notes because
> hand writing is barely taught. If these people
> had to be accountable for their output, many of
> them would not get raises.


If we pay teachers less, the talent will move to adjacent counties with better pay. In turn, the sorority girls giving drunk BJs down at Radford will be teaching your children in 2 years. The grass is always greener...

Good for you for wanting the most for your children, but it was your decision to have 3. I can't sympathize with you in terms of how much it costs to care for them.

The cost of living here is ridiculous and these salaries will reflect that. These teachers are also paying the same personal property tax that you are. Pay is scrutinized on a much higher level than this forum and I must say that these don't seem that absurd to me.

In terms of the handwriting, give me a break. You seemed pretty credible until you said that. Hire a handwriting tutor.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: oldrobin ()
Date: August 30, 2013 05:39PM

These salaries are not outlandish. Most educators have at least a master's degree and these salaries are low considering the fact that teachers have to continue taking training classes, at their own expense, throughout their teaching career. Heck I make twice as much at my job having just a bachelor's degree and I don't have to deal with moronic kids on a daily basis. If you think these salaries are high, then I suggest you go to school so you don't have to work the cash booth at the gas station. People gripe about teachers' salaries and then complain about education in this country. You idiots can't have it both ways.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: nwq ()
Date: September 09, 2013 10:44PM

Anyone know when I can see the new salaries request with the pay raise

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: navarro ()
Date: September 10, 2013 11:59AM

I hope a bird takes a crap on your stupid head. I haven't had my 10 year HS reunion and I make more than anyone on that list.

QUALITY COMES AT COST - basic economics, and THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. Look into corporate america - you can get those salaries plus more for doing next to nothing.

Then look at how much it costs to rent/buy in northern virginia. Problem solved - go find something else to bitch about to make yourself feel relevant.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: barber ()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:12PM

Want to find the most thankless way to utilize a Master's degree while taking the slowest path to repaying possible? Become a teacher. Then be told you're paid too much.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Know it all ()
Date: September 10, 2013 12:29PM

salary reflects value added Wrote:
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> Who are these people???
>
>
> McKinney, Zion B Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Rathbun, David G Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Angelo, Kevin A Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $77,367
> Bunaugh, Tijuana H Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $75,312
> Pendley, Lynn D Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $75,312
> Finch, Patrick N Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Kiser, Marsha W Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $73,835
> Trouton, Grant H Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Tran, Khanh Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $70,277
> Gamble, Lloyd B II Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,914
> Porter, William E Jr. Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,890
> Tanks-Gregory, Wanda Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $65,258


These folks are truant officers.

Zion McKinney is a former Tight End for the Washington Redskins.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Pay Stub ()
Date: September 10, 2013 01:38PM

So what's a basic Assistant Principal making? $80K, $100K?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Stevenson ()
Date: September 10, 2013 01:49PM

...And to those who are going to respond "why do we need truancy officers!?!?!"

If we didn't have them, you'd just be on here complaining about how there's no enforcement for all of the kids skipping class and raising hell at local shopping centers while they should be in school.

But then you'd be left with nothing to complain about. Which obviously can't happen.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: dolla dolla bills ()
Date: September 10, 2013 01:50PM

$70k?? outlandish?? child please...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: High school educated only ()
Date: September 10, 2013 04:31PM

Teachers as a whole don't make a lot of money for the hours they put in at home and the money the spend on supplies for activities in class. My wife is a teachers assistant and has been for 5 years she makes less than $20k a year.

I make more than most teachers and have no college education. I make $87k a year. I know how to budget and live just fine in FFX county too.

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Re: Sorry that some idiot posted your salaries! We support you!!!
Posted by: THANK YOU TEACHERS!!!! ()
Date: September 11, 2013 05:21PM

Now, more than ever, I am thankful that there are people out there who care enough about our future to accept the most important job in the world: educating our children. If the children of the person who posted this information are anything like their parent, they are surely whining, snot-nosed brats too. I am desperately hoping that this person didn't breed at all, to spare the world yet another moron.

If you're not willing to pay our educators a fair wage, who do you think you will get to teach? What standard of education is acceptable? Clearly whomever posted this is simply upset that they have a shitty job that pays them less than what a FCPS teacher earns. Ask yourself why you get paid less. Perhaps it is because you are undeducated and/or unskilled? Maybe this is an argument as to why you should have stayed in school and learned more; failing to get a college degree is looking like it was a much bigger mistake than you originally thought. Or maybe you earn less because you're an asshole? Complaining about the success of others isn't your real issue: your problem is really that you are a failure, and it drives you crazy to see that others whom you don't respect (educators) are far more successful than yourself. If I were a FCPS employee, or an educator, I would redouble my efforts to educate our children. The person who posted this is a sobering reminder of what can happen when children fail to finish school.

I'm curious how you obtained this information? If you're a FCPS employee, then you betrayed the trust of your employer by posting sensitive privacy information, and you should be fired immediately and fined. If you "hacked" into their computers, this is a cyber crime, and you should be in prison. The fact that you stole this information in the first place identifies you as both a thief and a scoundrel. You belong in prison, where your wages would be even less.

The next time you think about posting another person's private information, include your own name, salary, company, and position. It's only fair that we know what kind of asshole is willing to treat our educators with such disrespect. They're only our children, our future, our hopes and dreams. Why should we pay the people with whom we entrust their education a fair wage? When you are able to form an intelligent thought, post again. Until then, just go away.

Finally, to all you teachers and educators out there, THANK YOU for taking such great care of our children. THANK YOU for teaching them the knowledge and skills they will need to become successful young adults, and the future leaders and thinkers of our world. THANK YOU for suffering the insults of idiots and morons who don't understand that patiently teaching obnoxious and disrespectful children is not an easy career. THANK YOU for all that you do, you're worth every penny! I would pay you more!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: September 11, 2013 09:18PM

nwq Wrote:
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> Anyone know when I can see the new salaries
> request with the pay raise

A 2% raise will go into effect in January, so maybe the scale shown on the FCPS site will reflect the change at that time.

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Re: Sorry that some idiot posted your salaries! We support you!!!
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: September 11, 2013 09:21PM

THANK YOU TEACHERS!!!! Wrote:
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> I'm curious how you obtained this information? If
> you're a FCPS employee, then you betrayed the
> trust of your employer by posting sensitive
> privacy information, and you should be fired
> immediately and fined. If you "hacked" into their
> computers, this is a cyber crime, and you should
> be in prison. The fact that you stole this
> information in the first place identifies you as
> both a thief and a scoundrel. You belong in
> prison, where your wages would be even less.
>
> The next time you think about posting another
> person's private information, include your own
> name, salary, company, and position. It's only
> fair that we know what kind of asshole is willing
> to treat our educators with such disrespect.
> They're only our children, our future, our hopes
> and dreams. Why should we pay the people with whom
> we entrust their education a fair wage? When you
> are able to form an intelligent thought, post
> again. Until then, just go away.
>
> Finally, to all you teachers and educators out
> there, THANK YOU for taking such great care of our
> children. THANK YOU for teaching them the
> knowledge and skills they will need to become
> successful young adults, and the future leaders
> and thinkers of our world. THANK YOU for suffering
> the insults of idiots and morons who don't
> understand that patiently teaching obnoxious and
> disrespectful children is not an easy career.
> THANK YOU for all that you do, you're worth every
> penny! I would pay you more!

I am a teacher with FCPS and I'll say "Thank you", but I must also say that I don't think the publishing of this info is that big of a deal. Anyone can get this information through a FOIA request. That's where this comes from. No harm, no foul.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Carole Fenn ()
Date: September 28, 2013 07:14PM

Many of these people have both a B.A. and M.A. representing a considerable investment in education worth tens of thousands of dollars. Why should they not earn a salary that would allow them to pay back student loans, and be able to have a modest living? These are not banker,lawyer, or doctor salaries. Think about the cost of buying a modest home in the area or even renting an apartment. Think about the cost of raising children. These are not high salaries for the Washington Metro area.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: MacArthur ()
Date: September 29, 2013 10:28PM

some salaries are on Fairfax County's gov website

your forgetting: contract bids are also there. and the millions they pay out to OHIO (alias, green card workers and dc workers) for "drainage" jobs is incredible

your forgetting: the top paying jobs (supervisors, accountants, et al) specifically say that:

NOT ALL OF THE PAY IS POSTED - THAT STIPENDS OF UNDISCLOSED AMMOUNTS ARE INFACT PAID

they must think it's a "legal loophole" to say they are stealing so if they are caught they can say "oh we said so"

jail them now while you still can for their massive theft.

democrat banks will evict you, then kill you with poverty. they've done it to many already to turn the whole area a different color: democrat red, and green card color too.

you think the IRS is targeting you?

you must think that NY and other cities didn't develop "city information software" that can be used to target political affiliation, bank information, home value, color, age, unclaimed land, unclaimed property (ie, someoen dead). you must think their defamation system (court) and police are not "loyal servants". they are.

infact they have made and used such softwares for what is "less than direct in representation" and brag about it's potency.

they are fucking facists.

and any "unionized government" and high paid gov must be stopped.

all of them should "live within their means" and be visibly poorer than workers with similar jobs: which until late 80's even early 1990's they were.

-------------------------------

get these people in prison before they spend not only your child's future away but your own life

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tea bagger ()
Date: September 29, 2013 10:44PM

WHY CAN'T THEY WORK FOR FREE?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Brilliant! ()
Date: September 30, 2013 08:08AM

Tea Bagger Wrote:
> WHY CAN'T THEY WORK FOR FREE?

EXACTLY! In fact, why can't EVERYONE work for free?!?!?!

Then we wouldn't have this wasted forum thread based entirely on jealousy over other people's salaries.

In fact...let's do away with money altogether. Everything is free! Want a house? Take it's FREE. Need groceries? No problem, they're free!! Car? Free!!!

Free, Free, Free!!! Yes. Brilliant!! That is the answer!!!! Work for FREE!!!!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Mommy Dearest ()
Date: September 30, 2013 08:11AM

Pay Stub Wrote:
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> So what's a basic Assistant Principal making?
> $80K, $100K?


$80K is good money, that's a lot of money in my book.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tarvus ()
Date: September 30, 2013 08:25AM

Mommy Dearest Wrote:

> $80K is good money, that's a lot of money in my
> book.


$80k is good moeny, but for someone with the qualifications to be an assistant principal in FCPS, their earning potential is much higher. Keep in mind these people are often paying off advanced degrees and spent many years in the system to get to this level. I haven't been out of the system for ten years as a student and I'm already earning more than that with an undergrad degree.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tim Niebergall ()
Date: October 28, 2013 06:35PM

Yes, we need music. We need educated rounded whole young people so our society can overcome the ignorance and self-absorption that some (including the anti-education folks) foster in websites like this from a place of anonymity. Step forward, tell us who you are and make your argument. Otherwise, stay in the shadows and be ignored for the coward you are.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: The light ()
Date: October 29, 2013 05:48PM

Tim Niebergall wrote:
> Step forward, tell us who you are and make your argument. Otherwise, stay in the > shadows and be ignored for the coward you are.


That's right. Be a man and put your name to your complaining instead of hiding in the shadows with your baseless whining.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FDR ()
Date: October 29, 2013 07:23PM

No FCPS teacher is over paid.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FFX Resident ()
Date: October 29, 2013 07:45PM

Not disagreeing with you at all. I am a parent of a FFX County student, a FFX County resident and a FFX County taxpayer. Yes, the school systems budget is out of control, but posting people's name and private, or what I would like to think is private, information is not going to solve anything. If you eat at a restaurant and feel that the meal you were served is overpriced do you post the salary of the hostess, cook and server? How about car salesmen who you know rape everyone who walks through the door? When you take a load of trash to the West Ox Waste Transfer Station do you get pissed at the person who tells you it is $10 instead of $5? God damn they are just doing their job. All I am saying is do not stigmatize or demonize an employee who applied for a job the county is offering. They are just pawns in the game like everyone else. Focus on the School Board and County Council, they are the true dickheads who have put us in this situation. And the next time you see someone in a military uniform please take time out to tell them you are so pissed at them personally for the amount of money the U.S. Government has spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, because it really is that servicemembers fault.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Ned ()
Date: October 30, 2013 11:31AM

A teaching contract in FCPS and most school districts is 10 months for teaching staff (11+ for all others), not 9 as is the common misconception. Teachers report the last week of August and work one or two days after the students last day, usually June 18th or so, but has been as late as June 24th. What remains then is 8 weeks of uncompensated unemployment which is tacitly understood to be partial compensation for the professions modest salaries. Most corporate types have at least a months worth of vacation and most government workers combine comp time and vacation time to have about the same or more. Factory workers are typically awarded an additional week of vacation for every five years of employment. Many eventually have 6+ weeks of vacation, as auto workers in Germany and Sweden have. Teachers have to take mandatory re-certification classes during those two months of uncompensated unemployment and very often, that's the only time they are offered. Many, many teachers take on summer jobs to make ends meet, almost mandatory if you have a family. The "summer off" sounds luxurious but it's really not. It is maybe three weeks more time off than average...in return for salaries that are generally one-third lower than similar education and training would command in the private sector.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Cheryl Bugelski ()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:45PM

Teachers get paid for the days they work. Most teachers are contracted for 194 days. They do not get paid for any holidays, winter or spring break and definately do not get paid for the summer months they are not working. Yes, some teachers get a paypaycheck during the summer, but that is because they have set aside money in a Summer Fund. In order to maintain a teaching certificate many teachers are taking college level, postgrad courses, during the summer.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: SpeedFx187 ()
Date: October 31, 2013 08:24PM

Those teacher salaries are not that high.. lol

Especially after you take about 30% taxes out and factor in the high ass cost of living in Northern VA. I mean.. the teachers aren't starving and homeless, but they aren't living in a $300,000 house and driving a Benz either..

Earlier in this thread someone showed salaries of people making six-figures who are basically middle managers who don't give much added value to education quality of the kids. If they need to cut money, then send some of those people to the unemployment line and say, "Sorry dude! It's not personal... The RENT IS JUST TOO DAMN HIGH! We gotta let ya go!"



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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: koot ()
Date: October 31, 2013 09:43PM

Cheryl Bugelski Wrote:
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> Yes, some teachers get a paypaycheck during the summer,
> but that is because they have set aside money in a Summer
> Fund.


No more Summer Fund. FCPS shit canned it a year or two ago.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Date: November 05, 2013 01:27PM

I used to ask myself who needs cosmetology teachers? But the kids who take cosmetology will go to work immediately after high school. They will be making a salary, learning a business, and staying off the streets while your college students are drinking, hooring, and wasting your hard-earned money.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hammerhead10 ()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:35PM

All the bagger whining and feigned rage here. You should have paid attention in school and gone out and got yourself a decent job. I particularly love the turd who claims to make more in two months than somebody else does in two years. Kind of begs the question, If that's the case, wtf are you doing here whining about what other people make? Oh, that's right, you don't want to pay anything for one of the best education systems in the country, you just want free day care for your kids. It figures!



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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hammerhead10 ()
Date: November 05, 2013 01:41PM

Give it up logical citizens. There is no talking logically to the brainwashed, just beat the pulp out of them at the polls, get their reps like Ms. Schultz off the school board and tell them to have a nice life.



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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Logik ()
Date: November 12, 2013 02:26PM

How about we -

1. Cut defense spending in half and use the 300,000,000,000 dollars for education
2. Offer incentives for former & talented students with higher salaries starting at $80K
3. Deport illegals and stop wasting money on useless investments
4. Cut all these bullshit sports and useless humanities
5. Cut the number of administrative staff in half

All we need for a successful, prosperous, and manufacturing is math/science/STEM and foreign languages for export & trade.

Like Germany.

Split the secondary schools to increase teaching effectiveness at both lower and higher levels (since when does a future McDonalds burger-warmer need to know the number of people in the House of Representatives?)

This country has become plagued with bureaucracy and distracted from core elements of a modern economy.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: kr ()
Date: December 06, 2013 06:49PM

I am willing to believe your argument. But do explain what do they do?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: December 06, 2013 08:25PM

SpeedFx187 Wrote:
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> Those teacher salaries are not that high.. lol
>
> Especially after you take about 30% taxes out and
> factor in the high ass cost of living in Northern
> VA. I mean.. the teachers aren't starving and
> homeless, but they aren't living in a $300,000
> house
and driving a Benz either..
>

Was that a typo? $300,000 is in no way an upper-end home in Fairfax County. Sounds like you meant $3,000,000?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: llqr ()
Date: December 08, 2013 04:30AM

The teacher salaries that are listed 60-80K are based on at least 12 plus years of experience with at least one if not two graduate degrees. OVERPAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! These salaries are a disgrace.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: haircut? ()
Date: December 08, 2013 08:41AM

We need cosmetologists Wrote:
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> I used to ask myself who needs cosmetology
> teachers? But the kids who take cosmetology will
> go to work immediately after high school. They
> will be making a salary, learning a business, and
> staying off the streets while your college
> students are drinking, hooring, and wasting your
> hard-earned money.

Unless you are bald, just about everybody needs haircuts. So, unless you are willing to go at it yourself or give your BF some scissors and have at it, I would say cosmetology is a very worthy profession.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Matt Blake ()
Date: December 10, 2013 08:33AM

I don't know if this information will help this conversation or not, but I thought I would post it anyway.

There are many teachers, so naturally their skill levels will vary - same as with any other group. There are wonderful ones who are worth their weight in platinum, there are new ones who may become priceless or who won't ever find their way and most are somewhere in the middle. I doubt any of them go into the profession with the stated goal of not succeeding in educating the students in their classrooms. I really wish that as students got older the transfer of responsibility for their education was gradually moved onto their shoulders rather than finger-pointing at teachers, parents, administrators, etc. Not to say they don't all play their part, but as kids get older they're supposed to take on additional responsibilities in order to have more opportunities or freedoms. Why not ask more of them regarding their own studies rather than treating them as though they're all 8?

http://fcft.va.aft.org/files/article_assets/069F380B-B62A-4569-B25B2C7351B51704.pdf

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Math Major ()
Date: December 10, 2013 08:48AM

How much are the math teachers paid? If possible, can someone post that information (HS). Thanks.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: slubdawg ()
Date: December 10, 2013 10:33AM

anyone want to guess? Wrote:
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> DuPont, Kimberly T Communication Disorders
> Supervisor Fairfax Ridge $110,282
> Forrester, Debora A Communication Disorders
> Supervisor Virginia Hills Center $110,282


These two ought to be in high demand since Gatehouse has some severe Communicatoins Disorders

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Peter H ()
Date: February 02, 2014 04:38PM

Mr. Bragg!!! I remember him back in 1995! He still owes me ice cream from 2nd grade! Our team won and he lost the bet!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tea_party_whiners ()
Date: February 04, 2014 02:44PM

Joe College Wrote:
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> I make more in two months than you make in a year
> baby. Now go back to work you overpaid babysitter


Laughing my ass off. That's why you spend a majority of your time being a tea party shit stirrer on Fairfax Underground. Run along, JUNIOR!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Sarcasm for free ()
Date: February 04, 2014 08:24PM

Yep teachers are so overpaid, not like all those god damn government contractors. They are worth every penny.

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school tomorrow?
Posted by: katie ()
Date: February 16, 2014 05:46PM

does anyone know if we will have school tomorrow? the roads are really narrow and the bus stops are covered with snow

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: CEGmDCEGmD ()
Date: February 16, 2014 10:50PM

sharon BULL O VA

and supervisors have refused to respond to request for pay ammounts. they have published online that the ammounts shown (whcih are hight) are partial and their policy is they are special and do not have to show the rest

this is in specific disagreement with the law and they know it

you are getting a pay list from democrats who are stealing.

why even bother looking. it's $2,000,000,000 +

and no, none of the books are straight about where the 2B is. it isn't in infrastructure t

infact they count "projects" as huge pluses so it's likely 3B they can't explain

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: parent and teacher ()
Date: April 05, 2014 09:39PM

Totally agree. Too much emphasis on those pieces of paper. I started out in education as a teacher's aid and, frankly, I was much smarter than many of the teachers in the school. My bachelor's degree was in political science. If you're lucky enough to work in a district that provides professional development that is worthwhile, you don't need all the extras, but that is how the Central Offices of this country justify paying themselves more...if a teacher has a degree, he can earn a 'living wage' making it easier for them to justify making a wage well beyond that. After 20 years in education, I'm over all of this crap. I know what I do makes a difference in my student's lives and I can't waste time thinking about how the idiot across the hall who runs out the door with those students at the end of the day gets paid more than me. Its not worth my time. Keep posting those salaries. Its public funding so the public should know what we make. I'm not ashamed of what I make. In fact, its shameful I don't make more. Kudos to all of you who wrote in. In spite of some of your unkind remarks, at least you give a damn about education. It is probably more energy than many of the parents I've had in the past have utilized.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: OPisadouche ()
Date: April 09, 2014 03:37PM

parent and teacher Wrote:
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> Totally agree. Too much emphasis on those pieces
> of paper. I started out in education as a
> teacher's aid and, frankly, I was much smarter
> than many of the teachers in the school. My
> bachelor's degree was in political science. If
> you're lucky enough to work in a district that
> provides professional development that is
> worthwhile, you don't need all the extras, but
> that is how the Central Offices of this country
> justify paying themselves more...if a teacher has
> a degree, he can earn a 'living wage' making it
> easier for them to justify making a wage well
> beyond that. After 20 years in education, I'm
> over all of this crap. I know what I do makes a
> difference in my student's lives and I can't waste
> time thinking about how the idiot across the hall
> who runs out the door with those students at the
> end of the day gets paid more than me. Its not
> worth my time. Keep posting those salaries. Its
> public funding so the public should know what we
> make. I'm not ashamed of what I make. In fact,
> its shameful I don't make more. Kudos to all of
> you who wrote in. In spite of some of your unkind
> remarks, at least you give a damn about education.
> It is probably more energy than many of the
> parents I've had in the past have utilized.


It's not all public funding. Obviously you don't know which jobs are baseline funded and which one's aren't, neither does the OP, that's what makes these trolls posts such an idiotic waste of space. Very few facts, lots of whining about how people are compensated, and plenty of accusations. In other words, bullshit.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Explain so we can discuss ()
Date: April 09, 2014 06:17PM

"It's not all public funding. Obviously you don't know which jobs are baseline funded and which one's aren't,"


Please explain what "baseline funded" means and which jobs are "baseline funded" so that we do know. It sounds like those are privately funded?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Help the discussion ()
Date: April 09, 2014 06:34PM

Below is what I found on "baseline budgets" (from the FCPS Budget document). I don't see anything about public and private funding distinctions so I have no idea what OPisadouche is trying to say.


"How are budgets developed each year?
The baseline budgets for schools and special education centers are determined primarily by application
of ratio-based formulas that meet or exceed state requirements and have been approved by the School
Board. A majority of FCPS’ budget is for employee compensation with over 88 percent of the budget
allocated to employee salaries and benefits. Of the total positions in FCPS, 93 percent are school-based.
Each year, school-based positions are recalculated based on the projected enrollment for the next year
using the School Board approved staffing formulas."

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Derp ()
Date: April 09, 2014 06:46PM

I'm really into reviving long dead threads guys. Lets bump some crap that everyone likes to complain about on this board....

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Mare ()
Date: May 05, 2014 06:05PM

Came across this site by chance. Many of those with top salaries have a Masters+ 30 hours plus have been in the county over 20 years. Myself I'm retired but 6 years of my time in the county my salary was frozen. 3 At the beginning and 3 at the end which affected my overall retirement. During the first 3 years I worked 3 different schools daily. They did not want to pay the additional "class time frame" that would make me full time. This lasted 4 years. I found people who had just moved into the county 2 weeks got hired into a position I'd worked for 2 years part time. Couldn't believe that they got hired over someone that had been in the system longer. They just did not want to pay to make you full time. This part time hurts you when you want to retire cause they count 2 years pt = 1 yr f/t. But I enjoyed teaching and that is the reason I left private industry where I was making $24k more than I was teaching. Get real people the majority of teachers put in long hours in/out of school, take additional classes, and basically raise children that they see more hours in a day than their own parents.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Al ... ()
Date: May 05, 2014 10:01PM

Where are the cuts?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: College College ()
Date: May 06, 2014 08:38AM

Think calm thoughts Wrote:
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> teach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dude, we're hiring! Dust off your resume and
> hop
> > on the gravy train!
> >
> > Oh wait, a GED won't cut it. Guess you better
> > stay in the "real world" with the rest of the
> > stupid motherfuckers.
>
> with your anger issues and self hatred over your
> poor choice of occupation you do not need to be
> teaching kids. You would be better suited working
> the returns counter at Walmart.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: CRAZY THEY GET PAID TO WORK ()
Date: May 06, 2014 12:46PM

CEAZY HW THEY PAY PEOPLE TO WORK

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Screwjob ()
Date: May 16, 2014 12:49PM

Not as crazy as FD salaries.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: WTF2 ()
Date: June 07, 2014 11:00AM

Who are you people posting these salaries? Do you really think that they are high?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: it's not peaches at all ()
Date: June 07, 2014 11:07AM

Listen people:

Teachers are subject to false accusations for all kinds of junk when they are with students. The student and parent and public perception of education has been lowered to new lows. The legal system is so f'd up that this is REALLY dangerous. Nobody in their right mind is going into teaching with this atmosphere. It's downright scary. I would NEVER advise my child to become a teacher---low pay, no respect, danger of losing all you have worked for because of one student allegation in a heartbeat.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Jen23 ()
Date: June 13, 2014 11:27AM

You understand that this has to do with what degrees these people have, how long they've been with FCPS and endorsements they have right? You're an idiot...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: The_Greater_GOD ()
Date: June 13, 2014 12:28PM

What someone else makes is none of your business. I shall smite this website for its transgressions, and you will forever make less than $20 an hour. You are all rife with sin!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: June 13, 2014 12:39PM

None of these salaries are that high. I guess maybe if you're in high school or fresh out of college 60-80k might seem like a lot though.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Yesallwomen ()
Date: June 28, 2014 11:55PM

well if there's one thing i took away from this list it's that women can't complain that they're paid less than the men. it looks identical.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: anony ()
Date: June 29, 2014 05:21PM

Really? Wrote:
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> None of these salaries are that high. I guess
> maybe if you're in high school or fresh out of
> college 60-80k might seem like a lot though.

a teacher i had in 2000 was making 50-55k at the time and is on that list around 85k now. i think that may be what surprises or angers people. they received inflation/NOVA cost of living increases and the rest of the population (except the top 1-5%) did not.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FXX ()
Date: July 21, 2014 03:23PM

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Silly Me ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:33AM

Pretty much everyone at Gatehouse is overpaid.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Me2 ()
Date: July 30, 2014 09:56AM

Are you actually saying that these salaries are too high for running a school? I guess you think that a hedgefund manager making over a million a year is contributing more to society.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: back to point ()
Date: July 30, 2014 10:01AM

Running a school is one thing, but Gatehouse is another. They don't run schools and they are overpaid.

Hedgefund managers are a whole other discussion and taxes don't support them so I can't change that as readily. This issue here is one we can tackle for now. Using hedgefund managers as an excuse for paying Gatehouse people more is pretty lame.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Person1234567 ()
Date: July 30, 2014 03:38PM

Mika, Andrew J Physics Teacher, HS Robinson Secondary School $88,125


I am 31 years old and this teacher was there before I was in middle school. For him to be making such a crappy wage is disgusting. He was the best physics teacher at Robinson and students loved him. It is an outrage when I see teachers on these lists that barely make 20$/hr. That rate is nothing in Fairfax County. Very hard to survive on such minute amounts.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Robinson '89 grad ()
Date: July 30, 2014 11:20PM

Heh, Mr. Mika was teaching at Robinson when I was there, I'm 44 years old. I was making his salary by age 30 (2000), he's gotta be in his mid 50s at least.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: La Migra ()
Date: July 30, 2014 11:25PM

Person1234567 Wrote:
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> Mika, Andrew J Physics Teacher, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $88,125
>
>
> I am 31 years old and this teacher was there
> before I was in middle school. For him to be
> making such a crappy wage is disgusting. He was
> the best physics teacher at Robinson and students
> loved him. It is an outrage when I see teachers on
> these lists that barely make 20$/hr. That rate is
> nothing in Fairfax County. Very hard to survive on
> such minute amounts.

Agreed, but when half the kids in the school system come from families that can barely make ends meet you end up with lower pay because there's just not enough to go around. Look at how many fucking trailers there are at nearly every elementary school around here. And those "temporary" trailers have become rather permanent.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: wankitywank ()
Date: July 31, 2014 03:10PM

YAWN...you low paid tea party wankers still wanking about what other people who took the time to get educated and earn advanced degrees make? Get over it. Bunch of pathetic, whining LOSERS.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ThumbsUp ()
Date: July 31, 2014 06:26PM

^hahah agreed, good job wank

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: wUxxD ()
Date: August 01, 2014 03:07PM

that's what they admitted to

what about the benefits and contract fraud and land deals they covered up ?

what about whenever wtop reports on one: they exhonerate themselves and are enver prosecuted ?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You are an idiot ()
Date: September 22, 2014 09:30PM

I hope it is not rude to point this out, but you are an idiot. These are pretty much run of the mill salaries for this area - especially for people with advanced degrees and years of service.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: cyTXJ ()
Date: September 25, 2014 09:37AM

Me2 Wrote:
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> Are you actually saying that these salaries are
> too high for running a school? I guess you think
> that a hedgefund manager making over a million a
> year is contributing more to society.


If that hedge fund manager is helping make sure your 401k or pension is there when you need ut, yes.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: lay down with dogs ()
Date: September 25, 2014 09:45AM

it's not peaches at all Wrote:
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> Listen people:
>
> Teachers are subject to false accusations for all
> kinds of junk when they are with students. The
> student and parent and public perception of
> education has been lowered to new lows.

They don't help their perception in the community when they do things like this - teachers union sued for severance pay and the teachers in the school wrote the judge asking for leniency!

WEST BRANCH, MI (WNEM) -

A local family thought the worst was behind them after a local teacher was convicted of molesting their son.

But now they say they are disgusted by actions from the school district following the teacher's conviction.

Last week, 38-year-old Neal Erickson, a former middle school teacher in Rose City, was sentenced to 15 to 30 years behind bars.

Prosecutor LaDonna A. Schultz said Erickson, of West Branch, engaged in sex acts with the male student, who was older than the age of 13 but younger than the age of 16. Erickson taught science at the school for 16 years.

But the family later learned teachers in the district not only showed up in court to support Erickson -- they wrote recommendation letters to the judge asking for a lighter sentence.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Unions? ()
Date: October 11, 2014 02:19AM

Unions?? You idiots do know that we are a work to rule state right? There are no "unions" and the federations are completely useless (evidenced by the fact there has been one raise in 5 years).

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: @lay down with dogs ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:27PM

Agree. Bringing up a case in Michigan (where there are unions) is not relevant to Virginia. They might have outlandish salaries in Michigan, but we don't have outlandish salaries in Virginia! Far from it. If you are a teacher and not married to someone who gets real pay for their education, you will probably be commuting in or living in a crackerbox here in Fairfax County.

Also, I wouldn't comment on a case in another state unless I knew more about it. There have been cases where students lie about what has happened to them. I know that's hard for some people to believe, but it is entirely possible. Sometimes things are not what the media paints them to be (hard to believe, right?).

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Apples to apples ()
Date: October 11, 2014 08:42PM

These salaries are for 185 days of work.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: clarification ()
Date: October 12, 2014 10:49AM

Just to clarify, it's 194 days.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Annie Nonymous ()
Date: October 24, 2014 11:10AM

I hate to burst anyone's educational bubble but these admin special ed personnel are gatekeepers - they are taught to hold the line and write legally defensive IEP's - they are not there to provide the individual education that these kids need. If schools did provide individualized educations instead of fighting parents and professionals that make specific recommendations - the system could be FAR more economical. Instead school districts pay millions of dollars to high priced attorneys to make sure needed individual programs are not provided.

Try asking for the legal fees paid to outside attorneys for due process cases. This is a FOIA request. What's happening in special education around the country is dismal.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: detade ()
Date: October 24, 2014 11:26AM

Your a fucking idiot dude.

They went to college, are teaching the next generation all day, and they get a salary, and 2 months "off". Yet many of them are expected to work through the summer too!

Whoopty doo.

They can't affored to live in Fairfax! And the kids they teach have allowances higher than what they are making!

As for your dumb ass comments about "Comsmotology" That is a teacher ath the technical training school! OH course they shoudl get more, they are teaching college level and techschool level classes.

I can only assume you are either in Highschool, or recently quit, or you would understand that peopel who go to 8 years of college should be paid more than prople who clean toilets.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: just dance ()
Date: October 29, 2014 05:56PM

Betzel, Courtney J West Potomac High Dance Teacher, HS $62,725.00
Girdy, Lisa M South Lakes High Dance Teacher, HS $24,316.00
Heininge, Andrea M Fairfax High Dance Teacher, HS $55,186.00


WHY DO WE HAVE DANCE TEACHERS?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: A teacher ()
Date: November 29, 2014 12:46AM

Then use Google and do the research, you little tool. Oh and they probably make less than your dad.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tax Payer1 ()
Date: December 09, 2014 09:49PM

So I emailed the LCPS foia guy and sounded like a jerk, he said there over 1,-000 employes and I would of had to pay for it...

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Posted by: salary reflects value ()
Date: December 09, 2014 11:17PM

Abernathy, Cynthia A Navy Elementary Music Teacher, ES $89,237.00


89,000 dolalr voice

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ertytrew ()
Date: December 10, 2014 06:59AM

Tax Payer1 Wrote:
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> So I emailed the LCPS foia guy and sounded like a
> jerk, he said there over 1,-000 employes and I
> would of had to pay for it...


Check the FOIA law. The requester pays for all the copies made and the staff time of the teachers and staff pulling the information. No free lunch.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Technology Support Specialist ()
Date: December 10, 2014 07:23AM

Got a salary for an expert in hooking up VCRs and MS Paint?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: lolsss ()
Date: December 10, 2014 10:00AM

you're going to tell me they dont ask it alreadly? FCPS foia request for slaires request are free
ertytrew Wrote:
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> Tax Payer1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So I emailed the LCPS foia guy and sounded like
> a
> > jerk, he said there over 1,-000 employes and I
> > would of had to pay for it...
>
>
> Check the FOIA law. The requester pays for all the
> copies made and the staff time of the teachers and
> staff pulling the information. No free lunch.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: SE ()
Date: December 10, 2014 11:16AM

Posted by: salary reflects value Wrote:
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> Abernathy, Cynthia A Navy Elementary Music
> Teacher, ES $89,237.00
>
>
> 89,000 dolalr voice


SHE RICH

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Eli's ()
Date: December 10, 2014 08:41PM

Does band really matter? Wrote:
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> Burke, Patrick P Band Director, HS Hayfield
> Secondary School $93,800
> Hall, Melinda M Band Director, HS Woodson High
> School $91,069
> Panoff, Stephen E Band Director, HS Westfield High
> School $85,879
> Rice, Stephen H Band Director, HS West Potomac
> High School $85,879
> Seifried, Scott A Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $83,664
> May, Kelly D Band Director, HS Lee High
> School $83,405
> Bacz, Richard A Band Director, HS Mount Vernon
> High School $82,356
> Fore, Grayson W Band Director, HS South Lakes High
> School $81,006
> Loft, Andrew E Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $81,006
> Einuis, Laurence J Jr. Band Director, HS West
> Springfield High School $76,432
> Davenport, John H III Band Director, HS Falls
> Church High School $72,137
> Martin, Douglas B Band Director, HS Langley High
> School $72,137
> Thomas, Brian C Band Director, HS Stuart High
> School $72,137
> Vesilind, Paul J Band Director, HS Marshall High
> School $72,137
> Vanvalkenburg, James G Band Director, HS Oakton
>


I love band




High School $71,926
> Johnson, Alan P Band Director, HS Fairfax High
> School $69,780
> Luley, Michael C Band Director, HS Lake Braddock
> Secondary School $69,669
> Hall, Melissa A Band Director, HS Centreville High
> School $66,181
> Cunningham, Christopher D Band Director,
> HS Herndon High School $65,620
> Schnepper, William J Band Director, HS Westfield
> High School $65,370
> Reeves, Katherine M Band Director, HS Edison High
> School $64,317
> Foreman, Adam W Band Director, HS Thomas Jefferson
> High School for Science and Technology $63,420
> Ward, Stephen M Band Director, HS South County
> High $60,286
> Ross, Robert A Band Director, HS Chantilly High
> School $57,971
> Jacoby, Kathleen G Band Director, HS Herndon High
> School $56,434
> Weise, Christopher M Band Director, HS McLean High
> School $56,434
> Hilkert, Adam K Band Director, HS Annandale High
> School $55,942
> Baker, Matthew C Band Director, HS Fairfax High
> School $54,541
> English, Gary D Jr. Band Director, HS South County
> High $52,050
> Singleton, Christopher J Band Director,
> HS Chantilly High School $50,077
> Tucker, James L III Band Director, HS Robinson
> Secondary School $46,707

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: band is a bargain ()
Date: December 10, 2014 09:26PM

^ You do realize that if there is no band, there will have to be more teachers to cover other classes that those students will take as electives---right? The band classes are large so it will actually cost more if those students are put into other classes. Band actually saves money in terms of number of teachers. Plus those are some of the academically better students.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teach the children well ()
Date: December 11, 2014 06:40AM

Why don't they have an AP program on classroom instruction and have the seniors teach a freshman level course? Free labor.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: perry ()
Date: January 18, 2015 11:25AM

Teachers teach it! And I am a hs student myself; get a grip.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Goober-dumb... ()
Date: January 18, 2015 11:47AM

"A grip" is something these goobers simply do not have. They hate pretty much every governmental or other organized entity of every sort. FCPS, VDOT, the post office, IRS, EPA, FDA, OSHA, Metro, unions, and on and on. Christian goober churches and the military when they are killing furriners seem to be about the only exceptions.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fcpsparent14 ()
Date: February 11, 2015 09:56AM

Jane lipp? No longer a principal and probably pulling in more at this point. I found her uterly useless when forced to deal with her. I don't mind the salaries of the folks who have to deal with the kids, but the ones that sit behind a desk and pull upwards of 150k? Outrageous!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: fcpsparent2014 ()
Date: February 11, 2015 09:59AM

Why? They couldn't pay teachers enough to put up with these disrespectful brats. Yes, I'm a parent

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: 4bbWY ()
Date: February 12, 2015 03:38PM

fcpsparent2014 Wrote:
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> Why? They couldn't pay teachers enough to put up
> with these disrespectful brats. Yes, I'm a parent


^^^^ has kids and kids hate her she's a bi*(*#th

^^^^ plenty of other baby-sitters around

a good baby sitter doesn't need police at the house every day - and doesn't ask $ billion dollars a year to watch kids

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: cH9Dd ()
Date: February 12, 2015 03:38PM

> a good baby sitter doesn't need police at the
> house every day - and doesn't ask $ billion
> dollars a year to watch kids

of course the kids hate you - you refer to them as brats without any human rights

i hate you to !

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: public info ()
Date: February 18, 2015 12:00AM

and they get paid doing the snow storm

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: teacher ()
Date: February 18, 2015 08:17AM

public info Wrote:
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> and they get paid doing the snow storm


We love doing the snow storm. It's the hottest new dance-floor sensation.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Annah ()
Date: February 18, 2015 11:10PM

hopefully the kids will see this now

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: CatPodagrosi ()
Date: March 29, 2015 09:43PM

The VDOE believes in our outlandish salaries!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: CatPodagrosi ()
Date: March 29, 2015 09:43PM

The VDOE believes in our outlandish salaries!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TCJyv ()
Date: March 31, 2015 02:18PM


WTOP advertised on behalf of fx co gov latinos

1) ARE DOUBLING THEIR PAY. they just annonced that next year they are self-deciding their pay will be double that of last year.

** it's unheard of in any time or any government in history **

** it's the epitome of abuse of min. wage workers **

** there are very few denizens who have jobs in city **

** MOST ARE ILLEGALS BROUGHT IN TO CROWD OUT REPUBLICANS **

2) latinos in Herdon filed for $500,000,000 - one half billion if the news article is correct - for "renovating" a single high school in herndon.


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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: pUb3C ()
Date: March 31, 2015 02:19PM

these people are going to hell , are up shit's creek without a paddle ,

and will do anything to hold on to their counterfeiting ring

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: You are morons ()
Date: May 11, 2015 09:24AM

This discussion thread is ridiculous!

Someone said the median income for Fairfax is $67K yeah right....try over $100K.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/demogrph/gendemo.htm#inc

Also, for the morons who complain about the teachers getting paid for not working in the summer. Think again. Teachers are paid only for the days they are contracted to work.
If someone has over 20 years of experience and a Masters degree, and they make over 90k...
Let's look at that...
A HS band Director on an 208 day contract (which accounts for august camps and rehearsals and Saturdays throughout the year) making 90k (still below the median income for the county) makes $432 a day. Which in an 8 hour day is $54 per day. Most of those folks are not working 40 hour weeks, but 60-80 weeks. which brings their hourly rate down to as low as $27.

So before you get indignant about what a teacher makes. Why don't you look at the whole picture.

In that time off, teachers are professionally expected to get additional training - at their own expense, and plan for the coming year - uncompensated.

And before you go on your rant about being paid over the summer. That is deferred payment - not new compensation for new work. Some districts, will let you defer a portion of your payment so that you don't spend it through the year. It is money that the teacher already earned, held by the district and not accruing any interest. Fairfax has stopped doing this, but neighboring districts have not, so as to attract strong teachers.

I would like to see you morons budget your salary throughout the year so that you can still eat for the two months without pay.

Those teachers in Fairfax - Earned their salaries by getting higher education and Serving their communities, many times at the expense of their own family life.

Teachers, unlike other public servants - board members and politicians (i.e. Jerry Connolly) aren't out there in droves profiting form their service (bribes, payoffs, campaign contributions, kick backs). Save your outrage for them.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: ytrd ()
Date: May 11, 2015 09:44AM

I for one think teachers earn every dollar or salary they are paid.
What I have issues with are local hotel retreats, $100 dinners at Morton's, luxury hotel rooms on travel, $600 plane tickets to Orlando, etc.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Not right ()
Date: May 12, 2015 10:42PM

This is really inappropriate. It is one thing to post job titles and salary ranges - even actual salaries - in a public forum. It is a completely different thing to post the names. It invites jealousy and petty comments instead of focusing on appropriate pay for jobs performed.

I was especially offended by the nosy parent who wanted to know exactly what her child's teachers made. Would you share your income with them? And justify it?

I'm not a teacher but this is just wrong.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Use your brain ()
Date: June 10, 2015 08:55PM

None of these are that high. Teachers work 8+ hours a day and we live in an area with a very high cost of living.

Cherry picking the highest paid teachers doesn't represent the true data. Fairfax County teachers are paid less than many of the counties in the area.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: p ()
Date: July 18, 2015 01:18PM

Topics like Math Science English, much higher pay is very justified to retain the best talent... Cut out the fluff courses that can be learned outside of the school system (at a community college, trade schools, etc.).

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Xmb7U ()
Date: July 18, 2015 01:27PM

Use your brain Wrote:
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> None of these are that high. Teachers work 8+
> hours a day and we live in an area with a very
> high cost of living.
>
> Cherry picking the highest paid teachers doesn't
> represent the true data. Fairfax County teachers
> are paid less than many of the counties in the
> area.


Nice try. $$$ talks bullshit walks.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Too bad so sad ()
Date: July 18, 2015 01:30PM

Not right Wrote:
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> This is really inappropriate. It is one thing to
> post job titles and salary ranges - even actual
> salaries - in a public forum. It is a completely
> different thing to post the names. It invites
> jealousy and petty comments instead of focusing on
> appropriate pay for jobs performed.
>
> I was especially offended by the nosy parent who
> wanted to know exactly what her child's teachers
> made. Would you share your income with them? And
> justify it?
>
> I'm not a teacher but this is just wrong.


A public school teacher's salary is public record. Names are perfectly appropriate. Nothing wrong with putting it out there.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hLpdG ()
Date: July 18, 2015 01:31PM

the salaries dont show who has heigher pay due to years of payraises. but any fool knows $100,000 / yr is too high for a teacher: when local jobs go to mexicans and deninzs (if FIND work) are paid $13,000 / yr. - which is LESS than immigrants are getting from democrats though the back door vote buying system: DFS, which includes food, rent, heating&coolign, fuel, and more "if you qualify". the thing is: illegals working for near nothign for democrats in area DO QUALIFY - democrats are using DFS to pay illegals their damn wages.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: u kant spl ()
Date: July 18, 2015 07:25PM

hLpdG Wrote:
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> the salaries dont show who has heigher pay due to
> years of payraises. but any fool knows $100,000 /
> yr is too high for a teacher: when local jobs go
> to mexicans and deninzs (if FIND work) are paid
> $13,000 / yr. - which is LESS than immigrants are
> getting from democrats though the back door vote
> buying system: DFS, which includes food, rent,
> heating&coolign, fuel, and more "if you qualify".
> the thing is: illegals working for near nothign
> for democrats in area DO QUALIFY - democrats are
> using DFS to pay illegals their damn wages.

U kant spl

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Teacherlover ()
Date: September 04, 2015 08:08PM

Only way to retain teachers is higher pay. Or they will move to other fields

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: #1LiberalImmigrant ()
Date: September 05, 2015 10:26AM

As a resident of a neighboring county, I wholeheartedly agree that Fairfax should pay their teachers less. We'll be happy to take thwm off your hands.

You should think about sticking it to those damn, mooching doctors next.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Teacher ()
Date: September 06, 2015 09:58AM

The salary of the teachers is not the problem. It's their union and their politics.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: wankity_wank ()
Date: October 02, 2015 03:39PM

<>


LMAO! Sure you do, wankasauraus, that's why you're hanging out at Fairfax Underground.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hammerhead10 ()
Date: October 02, 2015 03:47PM

wankity_wank Wrote:
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> < year baby. Now go back to work you overpaid
> babysitter>>
>
>
> LMAO! Sure you do, wankasauraus, that's why you're
> hanging out at Fairfax Underground.


Don't you just love how these uneducated wannabes point out what they deem to be "outrageous salaries" while going on about how they make more in one month than the people they are complaining about. This place is full of self righteous, sanctimonious phonies.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2015 03:50PM by hammerhead10.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: we are DESTROYING teachers ()
Date: October 02, 2015 03:54PM

Making our teachers follow the "guidance" of charlatans such as Eric Jensen (neuroscientist, sociologist, and musician) and Menville "Flip" Flippen ("professional counselor" and horse breeder) is ruining them.

They come here knowing how to teach, and then we make them "learn" all of this crap.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: hammerhead10 ()
Date: October 02, 2015 04:04PM

Teacher Wrote:
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> The salary of the teachers is not the problem.
> It's their union and their politics.


It's not the union and their politics, it's idiots who attack teachers and other public servants while allowing the real grifters in this country to continue rob all of us blind. Learn to identify cause and effect relationships...IT MATTERS.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2015 04:13PM by hammerhead10.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Spell Check ()
Date: October 06, 2015 08:31PM

That would be librarian...and perhaps if you read a bit more you would know how to spell properly.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: schlank ()
Date: January 26, 2016 08:42PM

They deserve a raise! Try buying a home and raising a family in Fairfax Co. on that salary. Doable but not that easy.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Sweetpea ()
Date: January 27, 2016 02:42PM

Teaching creates ALL other professions.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salariesww
Posted by: True but w ()
Date: January 27, 2016 08:39PM

Not when they are closed
Sweetpea Wrote:
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> Teaching creates ALL other professions.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: NVCC STUDENT ()
Date: January 28, 2016 08:08PM

bump

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: MONO ()
Date: January 28, 2016 08:36PM

Still don't know what this have to do with fcps being closed

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Outlandish FFX parents ()
Date: January 28, 2016 11:06PM

Thought Doesn't Matter said:
"It doesn't matter. This is just an extension of the bitter tea party mentality. Everyone is overpaid, except the person behind their own nose. Nobody deserves to get paid a dime more than they do, unless that person is a job creator or is extremely wealthy already. These are feeble people who can barely read, so they don't understand why a teacher should get paid more than their slobby asses.

Whenever you hear someone complain about teacher salaries, just understand that the speaker is a failure and a loser who doesn't earn anywhere near a teacher's salary, and is nowhere near as qualified."

Amen! Unfortunately the internet has empowered these bitter, unthinking, self absorbed people.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Tea Party for better America ()
Date: January 28, 2016 11:09PM

I love teachers, but collect me if I am wrong.. They basically only worked 1 day in the last 2 weeks. How is this fair?
Outlandish FFX parents Wrote:
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> Thought Doesn't Matter said:
> "It doesn't matter. This is just an extension of
> the bitter tea party mentality. Everyone is
> overpaid, except the person behind their own nose.
> Nobody deserves to get paid a dime more than they
> do, unless that person is a job creator or is
> extremely wealthy already. These are feeble people
> who can barely read, so they don't understand why
> a teacher should get paid more than their slobby
> asses.
>
> Whenever you hear someone complain about teacher
> salaries, just understand that the speaker is a
> failure and a loser who doesn't earn anywhere near
> a teacher's salary, and is nowhere near as
> qualified."
>
> Amen! Unfortunately the internet has empowered
> these bitter, unthinking, self absorbed people.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Days Paid? ()
Date: January 28, 2016 11:09PM

MONO Wrote:
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> Still don't know what this have to do with fcps
> being closed

We are wondering how many days teachers actually work verse paid for.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Simon C ()
Date: January 28, 2016 11:13PM

Days Paid? Wrote:
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> MONO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Still don't know what this have to do with fcps
> > being closed
>
> We are wondering how many days teachers actually
> work verse paid for.

Are you voting for Donald Trump?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: FedUp with You ()
Date: January 28, 2016 11:44PM

1) Teachers are paid to work 190 between the last week of August ( when the meet and set their rooms up) and June 30th. That means if we run out of snow days, then we work the next holiday, and if we run out of holidays, we take days off of spring break or we add time to the school day. All of these things have happened in the past.
2) There are no unions for teachers in VA - it is a right to work state.
3)It is a requirement for all teachers to get a masters in their specialty field.
Try to get some of the facts straight.

Of course since idiocy is valued over thought, reason and education by you people the fact that teachers take their time and money to get a masters and many have PhD makes no difference.
I resent that you are going to drag me back to the stone age with you. Move to Somali - very low taxes and no government. Of course you have to deal with the war lords but that is right up your alley.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Dan nac ()
Date: January 29, 2016 10:15AM

Why so many forgeiers are teaching

REAL cost of FLES Wrote:
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> Barth, Mei-Jean K Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Shrevewood Elementary School $83,664
> Kearney, Bi Bi B Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Wolftrap Elementary School $79,251
> Cook, Lynn L Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill
> Elementary School $59,988
> Yuan, Grace Y Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Providence Elementary School $54,722
> Leung, Pik K Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $54,213
> Gift, Pu C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Clermont
> Elementary School $53,262
> Pearson, Kuan-Chen Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Fairview Elementary School $53,262
> Su, Ping C Chinese Language Teacher, ES Providence
> Elementary School $53,262
> Uang, Yeong-Tsuey Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak
> Hill Elementary School $53,262
> Coyne, Madeline Y Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Mount Vernon Woods Elementary School $52,636
> Chin, Hou-Dan Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin
> Meadows Elementary School $52,374
> Chen, Yu Chinese Language Teacher, ES Oak Hill
> Elementary School $45,884
> Feng, Jing Chinese Language Teacher, ES Fairhill
> Elementary School $32,685
> Chen, Yuwei Chinese Language Teacher, ES Hollin
> Meadows Elementary School $28,778
> Chen, Agnes M Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Wolftrap Elementary School $25,369
> Hung, Beesha Chinese Language Teacher,
> ES Chesterbrook Elementary School $22,942

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: January 29, 2016 12:23PM

FedUp with You Wrote:
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> 1) Teachers are paid to work 190 between the last
> week of August ( when the meet and set their rooms
> up) and June 30th. That means if we run out of
> snow days, then we work the next holiday, and if
> we run out of holidays, we take days off of spring
> break or we add time to the school day. All of
> these things have happened in the past.
> 2) There are no unions for teachers in VA - it is
> a right to work state.
> 3)It is a requirement for all teachers to get a
> masters in their specialty field.
> Try to get some of the facts straight.
>
> Of course since idiocy is valued over thought,
> reason and education by you people the fact that
> teachers take their time and money to get a
> masters and many have PhD makes no difference.
> I resent that you are going to drag me back to the
> stone age with you. Move to Somali - very low
> taxes and no government. Of course you have to
> deal with the war lords but that is right up your
> alley.

Where do you work? I am a teacher with Fairfax County.

1) The teacher contract is 194 days
2) There are unions (FCFT is the local of AFT which is an AFL-CIO affiliate. FEA is an association.) It is however accurate to say that there is no collective bargaining since VA is a Right To Work state.
3) Teachers are not required to obtain a Masters degree.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Fcpd www ()
Date: January 29, 2016 09:47PM

This is illegal I called the police

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Edwards S ()
Date: January 30, 2016 08:27PM

salary reflects value added Wrote:
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> Who are these people???
> What do they do?
>
> McKinney, Zion B Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Rathbun, David G Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Angelo, Kevin A Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $77,367
> Bunaugh, Tijuana H Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $75,312
> Pendley, Lynn D Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $75,312
> Finch, Patrick N Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Kiser, Marsha W Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $73,835
> Trouton, Grant H Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Tran, Khanh Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $70,277
> Gamble, Lloyd B II Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,914
> Porter, William E Jr. Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,890
> Tanks-Gregory, Wanda Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $65,258

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Edwards S ()
Date: January 30, 2016 08:27PM

salary reflects value added Wrote:
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> Who are these people???
> What do they do?
>
> McKinney, Zion B Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Rathbun, David G Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $78,915
> Angelo, Kevin A Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $77,367
> Bunaugh, Tijuana H Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $75,312
> Pendley, Lynn D Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $75,312
> Finch, Patrick N Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Kiser, Marsha W Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $73,835
> Trouton, Grant H Attendance Officer Pickett Street
> Annex I $73,835
> Tran, Khanh Attendance Officer Virginia Hills
> Center $70,277
> Gamble, Lloyd B II Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,914
> Porter, William E Jr. Attendance Officer Pickett
> Street Annex I $66,890
> Tanks-Gregory, Wanda Attendance Officer Alan Leis
> Center $65,258

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Zach ()
Date: January 30, 2016 10:29PM

How do you people sleep at night? Do you think you're making a difference by posting our salaries?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: nothing wrong ()
Date: January 31, 2016 12:12AM

Nothing wrong with posting salaries. It's public information.

For yourself You can decide whether salaries are too high or too low.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Zach ()
Date: January 31, 2016 01:03AM

nothing wrong Wrote:
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> Nothing wrong with posting salaries. It's public
> information.
>
> For yourself You can decide whether salaries are
> too high or too low.

IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. I know a couple of my friends have called the police and reported on this site. I hope they get removed

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: +-+ ()
Date: January 31, 2016 10:07AM

Zach Wrote:
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> How do you people sleep at night? Do you think
> you're making a difference by posting our
> salaries?


*----------->OP probably sleeps just fine (as do others who have posted public records on FFU) since they haven't done anything.

_________________________________________________

>IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. I know a couple of my friends have called the police >and reported on this site. I hope they get removed.

*----------->This isn't illegal and never will be, and there is no reason to remove them. This is 100% totally legal. These are public records. If anybody called the police they are probably laughing their heads off, because THEIR salaries are also public record and I would bet they all know that.

You all need to relax and get a grip. OP's reasoning sounds wacky but it doesn't matter. They can do whatever they want with these records, including commenting on them. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

Never hurts to remind public employees what the deal is. It makes a difference.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: some facts ()
Date: January 31, 2016 10:27AM

who decided this pay scale?

STUPID to pay a high level math/science teacher the same as a pe teacher.

Many of these folks got their job because they were somehow related or connected to someone at FCPS.

Attendance officers making $80k. Criminal.

Some teachers are worth double what they are paid and some are worth half.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: catherine ()
Date: January 31, 2016 11:31PM

Hennessa, Catherine K Centreville High Learning Disabilities Teacher, MS/HS $93,637.00

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: nob ()
Date: January 31, 2016 11:53PM

who the fuck cares? they teachers should be paid way more for the shit they put up with from not only the kids they teach but the parent's they have to baby sit too

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: For Edward S ()
Date: February 01, 2016 04:10AM

Hope you've seen this, Edward, on one of the other threads where you state your righteous indignation at teacher salaries. Please, Edward, pay me by the hour if you're so outraged that school is closed. And if you think this hourly rate is ridiculous, consider it's what I make for tutoring.

So I figured out my annual pay if I were paid by
> the hour instead of a salary. I was making $50/hr
> in my corporate job with one master's degree, and
> now I have 2 master's degrees and am almost done
> with a third. Nevertheless, let's leave it at $50
> and I'll even forget that this an old rate and I'd
> probably be making $60 by now.
>
> Take $50 x 9 hour day (I am at school from 7-4)
> and forget anything I do on the weekends or in the
> evenings. I want to be conservative here. So
> that's $450/day x 5 days a week x 36 weeks = $81K.
> I currently make $58K. So please, yes, pay me by
> the hour! Even with not getting paid for snow
> days, I'd still come out ahead.

Oh, and don't forget that if I'm hourly, you've got to pay overtime, and that's at time and a half if I'm not mistaken. Oh please, please - pay me by the hour.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: name ()
Date: April 15, 2016 08:00PM

I see nothing wrong with most of these numbers. I believe that teachers should get paid a lot its the future of our (not mine cause I dont have any but our as a group) children (or my current generation) and if they dont do a good job they should be fired Many dont do a good job but the school cant fire them cause theyve been there too long thats what I have a real problem with.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Pe6eM ()
Date: April 16, 2016 01:10PM

Pe6eM

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Sarah (WSHS Grad) ()
Date: May 11, 2016 01:18PM

Yeah, given this area and the cost of living- these salaries are in the mid/lower area. If we were in Idaho maybe it would be a bit much but NOVA is an expensive place to live. Honestly, they deserve more.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: NNjxE ()
Date: May 11, 2016 03:10PM

why do they deserve "better"?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Real Truth ()
Date: May 11, 2016 03:31PM

The problem is the county continues to pay those salaries and benifits to county employees until they die. The private sector doesn't do that.

Plus teachers only work 6 months a year and get full salaries.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: May 11, 2016 05:17PM

Real Truth Wrote:
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> The problem is the county continues to pay those
> salaries and benifits to county employees until
> they die. The private sector doesn't do that.
>
> Plus teachers only work 6 months a year and get
> full salaries.

The county doesn't continue to pay those salaries and benefits until they die. When they retire VRS (state pension system) will pay ~50% of the employee's avg of the highest three years' salaries. FCPS has a supplemental plan, the ERFC. It provides about 25% of the avg three years' salaries.

FCPS really doesn't pay anything towards the retiree's healthcare.
http://www.fcps.edu/hr/benefits/publications/2016/erfc_rates_2016.pdf

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: nYTmc ()
Date: May 11, 2016 05:33PM

And, ERFC dwindles down to nothing once you qualify for Medicare. My mom gets $15/mo. From ERFC.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Big Richard ()
Date: May 11, 2016 06:52PM

Just wait until you whiny FFX taxpayers see what I'll bank next year with a step increase and a paltry one percent pay raise. My pay will bump about 8 thousand skeeters. Greenbacks. Benjamin's. GWs. Dinaro. Peso. Euro. Bucks. Dolla.

All for barely nine months work. That is, if you call babysitting your brats work. Sucka

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: The Giver ()
Date: June 29, 2016 02:40PM

...there is no teachers union. How much do you make? What is your contribution to help young people live better lives and how much time do you devote to this vocation? Must not be much considering you see fit to publish other peoples earnings. The key word, earnings. They earn their money.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Deetman ()
Date: June 29, 2016 03:03PM

Real Truth Wrote:
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> The problem is the county continues to pay those
> salaries and benifits to county employees until
> they die. The private sector doesn't do that.
>
> Plus teachers only work 6 months a year and get
> full salaries.


If they only worked 6 months I'd be teaching. The vast majority of teachers are 10 months, with 90% plus working summer jobs.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: VOTE NO ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:45PM

FUCK TEACHERS VOTE N0

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: GAMBLING ISSURS? ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:46PM

YOU DONT NEED A SUMMER JOB YOU'RE EARNING ENOUGH MONEY..

Deetman Wrote:
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> Real Truth Wrote:
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> > The problem is the county continues to pay
> those
> > salaries and benifits to county employees until
> > they die. The private sector doesn't do that.
> >
> > Plus teachers only work 6 months a year and get
> > full salaries.
>
>
> If they only worked 6 months I'd be teaching. The
> vast majority of teachers are 10 months, with 90%
> plus working summer jobs.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: really or a joke ()
Date: August 29, 2016 11:16PM

WHY DO THEY GET SO MUCH MORE THAN US?

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Katie Flower ()
Date: December 22, 2016 12:16PM

thanks

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: oh please come on now ()
Date: December 22, 2016 01:28PM

Can someone, anyone, justify paying Karen Garza $300,000 a year along witn a housing allowance, car, phone and Internet? The woman was a complete failure at everything except maneuvering her way into a better job. I hope the door hits her fat Texan ass on the way out!

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TF ()
Date: December 23, 2016 05:27AM

FCPS could hire four teachers for the cost of one Executive Director or program head. Do the math. If they eliminated the overhead they could hire more teachers to combat overcrowding. Instead they cut the little people from gatehouse and pack the out-of-school administrative offices.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Correction... ()
Date: December 24, 2016 02:14PM

TF Wrote:
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> FCPS could hire four teachers for the cost of one
> Executive Director or program head. Do the math.
> If they eliminated the overhead they could hire
> more teachers to combat overcrowding. Instead they
> cut the little people from gatehouse and pack the
> out-of-school administrative offices.



Gatehouse is now called 'Emerald city'

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: Chill ()
Date: February 06, 2017 05:52PM

Honestly all these people worked hard to get where they are today. It's absolutely disgusting that many of you would vocally tear these people down as quite honestly I don't think any of these men and women are compensated enough for the services they provide. Most of these salaries are well under 100K and anything under 200k is not surprising at all if you have a valuable college degree. Maybe you decided to screw around throughout hs and college (if you even went to either) but don't take your close minded idiocy out on the hard-working staffers of our educational system.

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: BUMPP ()
Date: February 20, 2017 04:47PM

BUMP

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: BUMP.. ()
Date: November 26, 2017 05:00PM

JUST A BUMP

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Re: Outlandish FCPS salaries
Posted by: TAX PAYER 1 ()
Date: January 01, 2018 07:13PM

Chill Wrote:
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> Honestly all these people worked hard to get where
> they are today. It's absolutely disgusting that
> many of you would vocally tear these people down
> as quite honestly I don't think any of these men
> and women are compensated enough for the services
> they provide. Most of these salaries are well
> under 100K and anything under 200k is not
> surprising at all if you have a valuable college
> degree. Maybe you decided to screw around
> throughout hs and college (if you even went to
> either) but don't take your close minded idiocy
> out on the hard-working staffers of ourT
> educational system.

I didn't go to college, because my teachers sucked and never taught me grammar.

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