Re: To all County Volunter Firefighters
Posted by:
kPEFc
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Date: April 25, 2016 09:31PM
MyName Wrote:
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> To answer your question, NO it is not ok. What
> business is it of anyone? Secondly, I do not see
> the men involved being similarly treated. (I'll
> admit I did not read every post - too sophomoric.
Here ya go, read this sophomoric post:
IF the allegations of being unfaithful are true, then...
Person cheats on spouse
Person cheats on spouse (with co-workers?)
Person is called out for cheating on spouse in social media (and in person?)
Person, now, has to deal with consequences of their choices
That is reality, "Person" could be male or female, the gender is irrelevant.
Equal rights = equal responsibilities, accountability and treatment.
If I know of a person who walks up to another person and punches them in the face - I would use adjectives to describe their actions - "That person is a dick, asshole, mean, unable to control emotions, crazy" and so on.
The ONLY reason this is even an issue is because it was a WOMAN. If the roles were reversed, and this was a MAN who cheated, was called out on social media and then took his own life - all these white-knights and illogical feminists would be cheering that HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.
There is no such thing as "slut shaming" - all "slut shaming" accounts for is WOMEN who can not handle the consequences of their actions. Try to "slut-shame" a MAN, does not work right? Why? Not because of some social construct or some invented feminist nonsense. It is because the MAN is able to handle the consequences of his actions. It is not any more or less acceptable for a man to have many sex partners any more than a woman doing the same.
You want equality? Then change your own culture among women. Men often see a man who has many sexual partners as a positive. Women should do the same or STFU. Women on the other hand will chastise, gossip, SHAME another woman for having many sexual partners. Women, generally, DO NOT think positive about other women who are sexually open, in fact, most treat these women as lesser humans and basically shit all over her as a person.
You want EQUAL?, then pat her on the back and let her know how progressive and brave of her to be breaking through the "Social Norms" by getting so so much dick. Until WOMEN stop judging, condemning and SHAMING other women for having many sexual partners, then results like this tragic event will continue.
SOME MEN will also judge, condemn and shame, but will not expect a double-standard in return. MEN know they will be judged, condemned and shamed, but accept it, therefore they are not being hypocritical and have every right to voice their opinions as they wish.
A huge step for women would be to think logically and not react to WORDS like children. If you are called a slut, whore...take it as a compliment or ignore it. A person can not conduct themselves as an ADJECTIVE and then not expect to be called that ADJECTIVE or related SYNONYMS. Notice I said PERSON, because WOMEN ALWAYS expect to be treated better than a man in ALL circumstances, which is the hypocritical end of the sword they ignore, but die on at every turn.
MEN, for the most part, do not care and view the woman with many sexual partners on different levels. Men would think she is easily accessible for sex, she is more open to only physical relationships or may stay away from her for their own personal reasons.
WOMEN get mad at the ADJECTIVES used to describe a woman's sexual tendencies - that is it!
Men may call her a slut, whore, easy or any other words - this makes women mad. Men could also say, that they are interested in this woman because she seems confident with her sexuality and aggressively seeks out multiple sexual partners - they appreciate this strong characteristic in this woman and would like to partake in sexual activities with her, if she will have them. Both descriptions are correct, but WOMEN THINK they get to decide which one is acceptable - they do not have that choice.
Here is a simple and logical way to look at this event:
IF you can not be faithful, do not get married
IF you are married and can not be faithful, get divorced
If you have many sexual partners, be prepared for the good and bad consequences to follow
IF you can not handle the consequences of your actions, do not
do them
IF you can not handle the social media of 2016, do not participate in that social media
Take out the MAN and WOMAN of your personal judgment of this event and use PERSON in their place.
This PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse is an adult. This PERSON was made aware of other peoples opinions and feelings through social media about that PERSON'S actions. Other PEOPLE voicing their opinions in the form of ADJECTIVES and reporting the FACTS of what has happened, is in no way illegal. The PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse also must be ready to take RESPONSIBILITY and be ACCOUNTABLE for THEIR actions. This would include accepting the OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES of other ADULTS and any venues they decide to air them. These OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES may be good or bad, the PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse has no right to demand that others NOT voice their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES. The PERSON now must deal with the CONSEQUENCES of THEIR ACTIONS, whether on social media or face to face with other ADULTS. There are NO EXCUSES for being unfaithful, if one PERSON is abusing, cheating or any other bad circumstance or action - the other PERSON can END THE RELATIONSHIP, whether marriage or dating. If one PERSON decides to be unfaithful BEFORE ending the relationship, they then will have to deal with the consequences of THEIR DECISION. Add to this, the PERSON'S partner they decided to be unfaithful with will have to deal with THEIR DECISIONS AS WELL.
The supposed "Victim" in this event is a person who decided THEMSELVES to be unfaithful in their relationship verse ending the relationship first. (IMO if this PERSON ended the relationship first, NONE of the events that followed would have ever happened at all). This "Victim" CHOSE their ACTIONS and is an ADULT, therefore that ADULT has to be ACCOUNTABLE for THEIR actions, which includes other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES, whether on social media or in person. The "Victim" has every RIGHT to stand up for themselves in many fashions. The "Victim" can CHOOSE to defend THEIR CHOSEN ACTIONS on social media or ignore social media all together. When this PERSON made the CHOICE to be unfaithful, they as an ADULT, where well aware of the CONSEQUENCES on social media. This PERSON, if other ADULTS voice their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES face to face, can CHOOSE to engage others or ignore them. Again, when this PERSON made the CHOICE to be unfaithful, they as an ADULT, where well aware of the CONSEQUENCES of other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES while responding in person. The PERSON has every right to take legal action against any other ADULTS that do anything illegal to them.
If you want to be fair and show any type of respect for this event, keep your own AGENDAS out of the discussion. Keep your own AGENDAS out of any tribute or kind words you may have of this person. Do not USE this person as a platform to voice YOUR AGENDA. My citing of the general way men and women react, view and respond differently to situations like this is based in fact.
Whether you are Pro or Anti FF, EMT etc....whether you are Pro or Anti religion...whether you are Pro or Anti feminism....whether you are Pro or Anti immigration (Noted that last one on purpose, because all of your agendas are irrelevant while void of simple logic).
The simple and logical fact is that this PERSON is only a "victim" of their own decisions as an adult. This PERSON made decisions and took actions, or inactions, in response to other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES, as they have every right to do. This PERSON then CHOSE what ACTIONS they decided would suit the situation they created.
Even though, through logic, I hold the PERSON who decided to be unfaithful to another PERSON, ultimately, responsible for their decisions and actions, I do wish that this PERSON could have somehow found peace within themselves. I wish this PERSON was prepared to be accountable for their decisions and actions regardless of positive or negative feedback. There is no fault to be found in other adults responding negatively or positively, that is their right and is an expected and acceptable response to the events.
None of us know the reason this PERSON took their own life. It could be unrelated to anything we are aware of - all of these posts and situation that caused this thread, could be irrelevant.
I just hope that this PERSON is at peace, regardless of causes or reasons that led her to make such a decision.