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Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: War Powers ()
Date: May 29, 2014 01:10PM

Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?

We see this every time was are at war or "attacked." The US government declares a police state and then invades citizens privacy by imprisoning and warrantless searches.

My question is should the constitution be amended to allow for warrantless searches?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 29, 2014 02:45PM

In time of war governments tend to do whatever they feel they need to in order to win, regardless of the legal niceties. Keeping things on the books though at least preserves the possibility that redress can be obtained when the war ends.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: LXjUV ()
Date: May 29, 2014 02:49PM

We have always been at war with Oceania.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ywFe3 ()
Date: May 29, 2014 10:36PM

LXjUV Wrote:
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> We have always been at war with Oceania.

Fucking dirty proles.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: eLester ()
Date: May 29, 2014 11:39PM

They were apparently doing this before post-911 state of war. They saw the opportunity to cram thru laws to give them legal protection. The technology may have changed but warrantless wiretaps have been ongoing before 911.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Brothers Tsarnaev ()
Date: May 29, 2014 11:51PM

You have to make it real easy for them to notice terrorists. They don't care if you visit real Al Qaeda web sites, only the ones set up by the FBI and CIA.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Alan Dercschowitz ()
Date: May 30, 2014 12:11AM

Lincoln did. Fuck, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus. If it's good enough for one of the best presidents of all time, it's good enough for me!

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: HuTVF ()
Date: May 30, 2014 10:05AM

It's unnecessary. You can simply use this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneak_and_peek_warrant

You get a warrant to look for something illegal so you can get a warrant to find what you found.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: libs gonna lib ()
Date: May 30, 2014 10:11AM

Ummm, where have you idiots been? With Obama's NDAA and under Obamacare federal authorities have the right to search your home at anytime for any reason. There no longer is a 4th Amendment thanks to fascist libs.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: pubs gonna suck pubs dicks ()
Date: May 30, 2014 10:38AM

NDAA wouldn't have passed on Democrat votes.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: stoooopid libs ()
Date: May 30, 2014 10:41AM

pubs gonna suck pubs dicks Wrote:
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> NDAA wouldn't have passed on Democrat votes.


What the fuck are you talking about? You're an idiot. Hussein Obama was the first president in history to add INDEFINITE DETENTION for American citizens without due process. No arrest, no crime, nothing. Because of Obama LEO's have the right to take you and hold you for as long as they want.

That's liberalism.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Brandon Raub ()
Date: May 30, 2014 10:45AM

Brandon Raub, an ex marine, was held without just cause because of Obama's NDAA. He was a 9-11 truther, just like Gerrymander2. He's bat shit crazy but he did nothing wrong and his constitutional rights were violated because of liberalism (aka fascism)

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: eLester ()
Date: May 30, 2014 11:20AM

It gives the government a powerful weapon to threaten detainees to get false confessions.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Boston SWAT ()
Date: May 30, 2014 04:47PM

Remember the Boston bombing? Might as well have been the military knocking on people's doors.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: 4FCcd ()
Date: May 30, 2014 05:28PM

> Remember the Boston bombing? Might as well have been the military knocking on people's doors.

People "voluntarily" stayed indoors. Voluntarily meaning get arrest or get shot otherwise.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: Outdated ()
Date: May 30, 2014 05:55PM

The government can search my files and track me if they think it will stop a terrorist attack on US citizens. I have no problem with that at all.

The 4th amendment is outdated and should be thrown away.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: May 30, 2014 06:30PM

Outdated Wrote:
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> The government can search my files and track me if
> they think it will stop a terrorist attack on US
> citizens. I have no problem with that at all.
>
> The 4th amendment is outdated and should be thrown
> away.


Safety over privacy? That's a slippery slope.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: May 30, 2014 06:32PM

Government should be allowed to search anything they want, anytime they want. If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you afraid of?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: May 30, 2014 06:38PM

tomahawk Wrote:
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> Government should be allowed to search anything
> they want, anytime they want. If you're not doing
> anything wrong, what are you afraid of?

Just randomly? Without reasonable suspicion/probable cause?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: May 31, 2014 02:30AM

..... Wrote:
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Government should be allowed to search anything
> > they want, anytime they want. If you're not
> doing
> > anything wrong, what are you afraid of?
>
> Just randomly? Without reasonable
> suspicion/probable cause?

Yes. Why are you asking? Are you hiding something?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ry ()
Date: May 31, 2014 03:15AM

Outdated Wrote:
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> The government can search my files and track me if
> they think it will stop a terrorist attack on US
> citizens. I have no problem with that at all.
>
> The 4th amendment is outdated and should be thrown
> away.

HA.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: May 31, 2014 12:42PM

tomahawk Wrote:
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> Yes. Why are you asking? Are you hiding something?

So if the Feds get word that a wanted fugitive is hiding out somewhere in a certain neighborhood, they should then be allowed to force their way into every person's home, without any evidence at all? No thanks.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: May 31, 2014 05:45PM

...... Wrote:
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes. Why are you asking? Are you hiding
> something?
>
> So if the Feds get word that a wanted fugitive is
> hiding out somewhere in a certain neighborhood,
> they should then be allowed to force their way
> into every person's home, without any evidence at
> all? No thanks.

Why not? It worked well in Boston. Boston Strong, dude.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: May 31, 2014 06:51PM

tomahawk Wrote:
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> Why not? It worked well in Boston. Boston Strong,
> dude.

If the government has nothing to hide, maybe us citizens should have access to their confidential files and records? Sounds reasonable to me. Why shouldn't it go both ways?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: libs love fascism ()
Date: May 31, 2014 07:12PM

tomahawk Wrote:
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> Government should be allowed to search anything
> they want, anytime they want. If you're not doing
> anything wrong, what are you afraid of?


You're a liberal loon. Anti american fascist piece of shit.

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: May 31, 2014 07:18PM

Would you be alright with a federal agent waiting for you to head off to work, then poking his nose in your mailbox and opening the mail? What about coming over on trash day to search through your garbage can? No big deal I suppose?

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Re: Should the US Government Be Allowed Warrantless Searches in Wartime?
Posted by: u9xGv ()
Date: May 31, 2014 07:35PM

WELL.

busch declared it, congress agreed.

busch is not president and obama, as far as anyone told us (and they are responsible to do so) DID NOT declare it

surely a writ of mandamus is void when the office has a new attendant

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your kidding yourself

if they are listening they have plans. if they have plans they are surely criminal and won't stop.

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My question is should the constitution be amended to allow for warrantless searches?


do you have any idea how long ammendments to the constitution take to ratify ? 7 years minimum.

when was the last one made ? 1920's prohibition ? may some election fraud or polititian death issue ?

yea try and word-pad it in. we all have a copy

we'll part with the copy as easily as with our arms

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