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Atheism
Posted by:
OnlyGodKnows
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Date: April 06, 2013 01:28AM
What are your thoughts on Atheism? Is it worse to worship Satan, than to completely reject the bible in its entirety? Are Atheist evil or are they just going to hell for committing sin? Why are atheist such a hated people if god will eventually take care of it in the afterlife? Why must Christians and other monotheistic religions take action into their own hand, therefore undermining the power of god?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ChillingWithSatan
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Date: April 06, 2013 01:35AM
I think Atheism emphasizes an overall enhancement of the quality and enjoyment of life, because by rejecting any holy book they are basically implying that they don't think they will go anywhere after they die. Atheism promotes that you live for now. You can threaten an Atheist with hell all you want, that is like a 5 year old threatening to beat you up with his imaginary friend. I think it is worse to worship Satan, and being atheist does not necessarily mean you worship satan. It most cases it means you dont believe in Satan. Satan is a creation of God, and Atheist don't believe in God. You might be asking "But humans are the creation of God and humans exist". Much like God, Satan has no tangible evidence of existence. Promoting Satan means you approve of sins. Atheist are just logical thinker who do not live by the teaching of an religious groups. They usually use philosophy and deductive reasoning.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
WhyAreYouReplyingToYourOwnPost?!
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Date: April 06, 2013 01:37AM
YouAskedThisQuestionJustToAnswerItYourself?GoodJobSport!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
network adapters
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Date: April 06, 2013 01:41AM
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So true..LOL
So true..LOL
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
blah...............
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Date: April 06, 2013 03:55AM
ChillingWithSatan Wrote:
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>> bullshit
Blow it out your ass.......... you faggot.
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>> bullshit
Blow it out your ass.......... you faggot.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 06, 2013 04:25AM
Relax people, there is no God. God didn't create man; Man created God.
If you don't believe in the supernatural, then you are normal.
Don't believe anything without proof.
For those with faith, then your faith is mostly a function of where you were born. If you were born in the Middle East, you'd likely be a Muslim. If you were born in Italy, you'd likely be a christian/catholic.
If you study the history of religion, then you will realize that the bible is a collection of myths that have been borrowed from many faiths and beliefs.
Early people looked to religion for answers to the mysteries of life. Science and the scientific method have been found to be more credible, because of proof.
For those with faith, try to find the courage to question everything you've been taught or told that lacks proof.
The founding fathers were not all christians. Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence didn't believe in the supernatural either.
If there was a real God, do you think there would be so many conflicting religions in the world? That's an indication that religion was invented by early man to explain the unexplainable. If there was a real God, then there would be one worldwide religion and there would be proof that he exists.
Can you find anything in the medical literature about the existance of a soul that leaves the body upon death? I didn't think so.
Enjoy your life, becase this is a good as it gets.
If you don't believe in the supernatural, then you are normal.
Don't believe anything without proof.
For those with faith, then your faith is mostly a function of where you were born. If you were born in the Middle East, you'd likely be a Muslim. If you were born in Italy, you'd likely be a christian/catholic.
If you study the history of religion, then you will realize that the bible is a collection of myths that have been borrowed from many faiths and beliefs.
Early people looked to religion for answers to the mysteries of life. Science and the scientific method have been found to be more credible, because of proof.
For those with faith, try to find the courage to question everything you've been taught or told that lacks proof.
The founding fathers were not all christians. Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence didn't believe in the supernatural either.
If there was a real God, do you think there would be so many conflicting religions in the world? That's an indication that religion was invented by early man to explain the unexplainable. If there was a real God, then there would be one worldwide religion and there would be proof that he exists.
Can you find anything in the medical literature about the existance of a soul that leaves the body upon death? I didn't think so.
Enjoy your life, becase this is a good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
waste of space
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Date: April 06, 2013 04:48AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Relax people, there is no God. God didn't create
> man; Man created God.
>
> If you don't believe in the supernatural, then you
> are normal.
>
> Don't believe anything without proof.
>
> For those with faith, then your faith is mostly a
> function of where you were born. If you were born
> in the Middle East, you'd likely be a Muslim. If
> you were born in Italy, you'd likely be a
> christian/catholic.
>
> If you study the history of religion, then you
> will realize that the bible is a collection of
> myths that have been borrowed from many faiths and
> beliefs.
>
> Early people looked to religion for answers to the
> mysteries of life. Science and the scientific
> method have been found to be more credible,
> because of proof.
>
> For those with faith, try to find the courage to
> question everything you've been taught or told
> that lacks proof.
>
> The founding fathers were not all christians.
> Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of
> Independence didn't believe in the supernatural
> either.
>
> If there was a real God, do you think there would
> be so many conflicting religions in the world?
> That's an indication that religion was invented by
> early man to explain the unexplainable. If there
> was a real God, then there would be one worldwide
> religion and there would be proof that he exists.
>
> Can you find anything in the medical literature
> about the existance of a soul that leaves the body
> upon death? I didn't think so.
>
> Enjoy your life, becase this is a good as it gets.
You are a fucking faggot.
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> Relax people, there is no God. God didn't create
> man; Man created God.
>
> If you don't believe in the supernatural, then you
> are normal.
>
> Don't believe anything without proof.
>
> For those with faith, then your faith is mostly a
> function of where you were born. If you were born
> in the Middle East, you'd likely be a Muslim. If
> you were born in Italy, you'd likely be a
> christian/catholic.
>
> If you study the history of religion, then you
> will realize that the bible is a collection of
> myths that have been borrowed from many faiths and
> beliefs.
>
> Early people looked to religion for answers to the
> mysteries of life. Science and the scientific
> method have been found to be more credible,
> because of proof.
>
> For those with faith, try to find the courage to
> question everything you've been taught or told
> that lacks proof.
>
> The founding fathers were not all christians.
> Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of
> Independence didn't believe in the supernatural
> either.
>
> If there was a real God, do you think there would
> be so many conflicting religions in the world?
> That's an indication that religion was invented by
> early man to explain the unexplainable. If there
> was a real God, then there would be one worldwide
> religion and there would be proof that he exists.
>
> Can you find anything in the medical literature
> about the existance of a soul that leaves the body
> upon death? I didn't think so.
>
> Enjoy your life, becase this is a good as it gets.
You are a fucking faggot.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
kkFX3
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Date: April 06, 2013 04:52AM
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
blah
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Date: April 06, 2013 04:58AM
zero tolerance for fucking faggots
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
um
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Date: April 06, 2013 05:02AM
blah Wrote:
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> zero tolerance for fucking faggots
then maybe you should stop fucking faggots you homo
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> zero tolerance for fucking faggots
then maybe you should stop fucking faggots you homo
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Umm
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Date: April 06, 2013 05:36AM
um Wrote:
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> then maybe you should stop fucking faggots you
> homo
maybe you should stop fucking yourself, you narcissist.
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> then maybe you should stop fucking faggots you
> homo
maybe you should stop fucking yourself, you narcissist.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
DNCkW
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Date: April 06, 2013 05:41AM
Don't try to sweet talk me.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
4jNVK
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Date: April 06, 2013 05:47AM
don't tell me you've never played the devil.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
just don't call it god
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Date: April 06, 2013 06:44AM
every man has a religion.........
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 06, 2013 07:39AM
God is a myth and you know it.
It's intersting that christians claim to not have anything in common with atheists.
Atheists and christians have a lot in common.
Christians only believe in one God; their God. Christians don't believe in any of the other Gods that have ever existed in the history of all the world's religions that have ever been practiced. Atheists just go one God further than christians. Atheists don't believe in any God.
If there was any proof of God, then there wouldn't be any atheists. If christians demanded proof of God, there wouldn't be any christians.
It's intersting that christians claim to not have anything in common with atheists.
Atheists and christians have a lot in common.
Christians only believe in one God; their God. Christians don't believe in any of the other Gods that have ever existed in the history of all the world's religions that have ever been practiced. Atheists just go one God further than christians. Atheists don't believe in any God.
If there was any proof of God, then there wouldn't be any atheists. If christians demanded proof of God, there wouldn't be any christians.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Allah-
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Date: April 06, 2013 07:46AM
Put a sock in it, you boring Muslim-loving bigot.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 06, 2013 07:55AM
Have you ever noticed how christians behave when confronted by the facts concerning the existance of a God? They don't behave like christians.
Christians have a difficult time when confronted by the fact of evolution. Christians feel threatened by evolution, because evolution is a threat to their God.
Evolution is a fact. The christian God is not a fact; ask any muslim.
Christians have a difficult time when confronted by the fact of evolution. Christians feel threatened by evolution, because evolution is a threat to their God.
Evolution is a fact. The christian God is not a fact; ask any muslim.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 06, 2013 07:59AM
Sam Harris demolishes Christianity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdGr4K4qLg
Let's hear the christian response to Sam Harris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSdGr4K4qLg
Let's hear the christian response to Sam Harris.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Be Careful, Heretics!
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Date: April 06, 2013 08:44AM
God is all-knowing, omnipotent, but so insecure that he questioned his own worth until he created something which could tell him how great he was.
The dinosaurs were just a mistake... they weren't able to believe in things that they couldn't eat, so he erased them.
The dinosaurs were just a mistake... they weren't able to believe in things that they couldn't eat, so he erased them.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
What About Jesus?
()
Date: April 06, 2013 08:54AM
God impregnated a virgin -- who else could do that?
Sure, by the standards of our present day Sodom-like society, that's considered a "pathetic plea for attention", but who are we to question???
Sure, by the standards of our present day Sodom-like society, that's considered a "pathetic plea for attention", but who are we to question???
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
The "Logic" Paradox
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Date: April 06, 2013 09:12AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Have you ever noticed how christians behave when
> confronted by the facts concerning the existance
> of a God? They don't behave like christians.
It's all makes sense, really...
Consider how they behave when confronted by people who do believe in God, but perhaps believe in the wrong Moses/Jesus/Muhammad combination:
There's no logical way to explain why "peace-loving adherents" were imbued with such a capacity for intolerance and hatred.
Therefore, logic breaks down, opening a loophole through which God can enter our hearts and minds.
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> Have you ever noticed how christians behave when
> confronted by the facts concerning the existance
> of a God? They don't behave like christians.
It's all makes sense, really...
Consider how they behave when confronted by people who do believe in God, but perhaps believe in the wrong Moses/Jesus/Muhammad combination:
There's no logical way to explain why "peace-loving adherents" were imbued with such a capacity for intolerance and hatred.
Therefore, logic breaks down, opening a loophole through which God can enter our hearts and minds.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Bible 80% fictional
()
Date: April 06, 2013 10:45AM
OnlyGodKnows Wrote:
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> What are your thoughts on Atheism? Is it worse to
> worship Satan, than to completely reject the bible
> in its entirety? Are Atheist evil or are they just
> going to hell for committing sin? Why are atheist
> such a hated people if god will eventually take
> care of it in the afterlife? Why must Christians
> and other monotheistic religions take action into
> their own hand, therefore undermining the power of
> god?
Hell and Satan are not in the Jewish Torah.
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> What are your thoughts on Atheism? Is it worse to
> worship Satan, than to completely reject the bible
> in its entirety? Are Atheist evil or are they just
> going to hell for committing sin? Why are atheist
> such a hated people if god will eventually take
> care of it in the afterlife? Why must Christians
> and other monotheistic religions take action into
> their own hand, therefore undermining the power of
> god?
Hell and Satan are not in the Jewish Torah.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Concise Explaination
()
Date: April 06, 2013 11:06AM
Bible 80% fictional Wrote:
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> Hell and Satan are not in the Jewish Torah.
According to the Bible, Hell and Jesus were part of a package deal.
What more do you need to prove that the Christian God is loving and generous?
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> Hell and Satan are not in the Jewish Torah.
According to the Bible, Hell and Jesus were part of a package deal.
What more do you need to prove that the Christian God is loving and generous?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: April 06, 2013 11:26AM
I've said it before but I'll say it again...
Atheism is the religion stupid people adopt to look intelligent.
99% of atheists are brainwashed and ignorant Leftist fucktards.
I just love how they look to rub each other on the ass constantly about how magical the world would be if left-wing atheists ruled the world.
Um, you did control about half of the world and it was a complete fucking nightmare.
The Soviet regime, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc, were all left-wing atheist movements who crushed the "Jesus Freaks" with a red iron fist.
They also murdered over 100 million innocent people and brutally oppressed countless billions more.
In fact, they carried out the worst genocide in human history in the name of liberal secular progressivism.
That libtard atheists are totally clueless about this chapter of recent history or refuse to acknowledge it is why nobody should ever take an atheist seriously.
They're pretty much just as delusional as any Flat Young Earth Creationists.
Another major reason why atheists are retarded is that they're absolutely obsessed with savaging Christians and Christians alone.
They waste 99.99999% of their energy on bashing nice little Christian families simply because they don't believe in macro evolution while almost completely ignoring pisslam's daily gross crimes against humanity.
Everything D Bagger atheists claim to hate about Christianity, pisslam has in spades - and then some.
Atheists have to resort to bashing Christians over shit they did several hundred years ago because they've erected a bogeyman to slay that already died long ago.
They're STILL savaging Christians over the fucking Salem witch trials while ignoring that muslimes are still publicly beheading witches with swords today.
That's why nobody with an IQ over 100 takes atheism, of Leftist ideology in general, seriously.
There's a consistent pattern of left-wing atheists, feminists, gay rights activists, human rights activists, pacifists, environmentalists, etc, tearing down Western Civilization while turning a blind eye to the abuses committed by non-Whites, females, and non-Christians.
Which reveals the real goals of the Left: destroying the West.
Atheism is the religion stupid people adopt to look intelligent.
99% of atheists are brainwashed and ignorant Leftist fucktards.
I just love how they look to rub each other on the ass constantly about how magical the world would be if left-wing atheists ruled the world.
Um, you did control about half of the world and it was a complete fucking nightmare.
The Soviet regime, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc, were all left-wing atheist movements who crushed the "Jesus Freaks" with a red iron fist.
They also murdered over 100 million innocent people and brutally oppressed countless billions more.
In fact, they carried out the worst genocide in human history in the name of liberal secular progressivism.
That libtard atheists are totally clueless about this chapter of recent history or refuse to acknowledge it is why nobody should ever take an atheist seriously.
They're pretty much just as delusional as any Flat Young Earth Creationists.
Another major reason why atheists are retarded is that they're absolutely obsessed with savaging Christians and Christians alone.
They waste 99.99999% of their energy on bashing nice little Christian families simply because they don't believe in macro evolution while almost completely ignoring pisslam's daily gross crimes against humanity.
Everything D Bagger atheists claim to hate about Christianity, pisslam has in spades - and then some.
Atheists have to resort to bashing Christians over shit they did several hundred years ago because they've erected a bogeyman to slay that already died long ago.
They're STILL savaging Christians over the fucking Salem witch trials while ignoring that muslimes are still publicly beheading witches with swords today.
That's why nobody with an IQ over 100 takes atheism, of Leftist ideology in general, seriously.
There's a consistent pattern of left-wing atheists, feminists, gay rights activists, human rights activists, pacifists, environmentalists, etc, tearing down Western Civilization while turning a blind eye to the abuses committed by non-Whites, females, and non-Christians.
Which reveals the real goals of the Left: destroying the West.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
God and Satan same
()
Date: April 06, 2013 11:49AM
Satan is the Christian demonized version of the Canaanite god Baal. Baal is also one of the names for God, including Yahweh, Elohim, and many others.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ChillinWithSatan
()
Date: April 06, 2013 12:07PM
People use the argument that Stalin was an atheist and he did horrible things to his people. Hitler used god as a justification for white supremacy and Osama bin Laden used Allah as a justification for terrorism. Using arguments like that are invalid, because there are bad seed within a society, but you are just using categorical imperatives by stereotyping a whole society based on that one bad seed. Also with Stalin you have to analyze his approach to Atheism. He thought he himself was all powerful, therefore reflecting himself like a god like entity. He also wanted to leave his people with a slate free mind not influenced by religion so Stalin himself could brainwash them with his own propaganda bullshit. This is a polar opposite to a majority of atheists today, who believe that don't know the answer to the universe's questions, but they just don't see their previous religion as a credible source to abide by.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
thinker
()
Date: April 06, 2013 12:19PM
Why did god only perform amazing miracles in time where we could provide substantial evidence for their existence?
Why does God let lonely African children to starve if it benefits nobody?
If God is all powerful, then how does Satan stand a chance?
How are we suppose to enjoy heaven when we know fellow humans are being burned for eternity in hell?
What if my mom goes to hell and I go to heaven? How can I possibly enjoy heaven knowing what is happening to my mom?
Who created God? I mean everything has a creator, but who created God? If you said no one, then if God doesn't need a creator, then why do we? Can't we just apply that theory of popping out of no where to us? Does that mean God is an atheist?
Why is God always given credit for all the good things he does, but when he does things like Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters nobody ever mentions him?
Why does God let lonely African children to starve if it benefits nobody?
If God is all powerful, then how does Satan stand a chance?
How are we suppose to enjoy heaven when we know fellow humans are being burned for eternity in hell?
What if my mom goes to hell and I go to heaven? How can I possibly enjoy heaven knowing what is happening to my mom?
Who created God? I mean everything has a creator, but who created God? If you said no one, then if God doesn't need a creator, then why do we? Can't we just apply that theory of popping out of no where to us? Does that mean God is an atheist?
Why is God always given credit for all the good things he does, but when he does things like Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters nobody ever mentions him?
Re: Atheism
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Date: April 06, 2013 12:35PM
Found these funny
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
literary device
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Date: April 06, 2013 12:52PM
Satan is God in another form who comes down to test Man.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Do The Math...
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Date: April 06, 2013 01:31PM
Christianity is the most popular religion on Earth, claiming a bit over 1/3 of its population.
Catholics are the most popular sect, claiming only 18.85% of the world's population.
Even if they're correct (best case?), over 80% of the world's population is damned.
What kind of God would let that happen?
He's either impotent, evil, or just doesn't give a damn about what we think.
Where is your God now?
Catholics are the most popular sect, claiming only 18.85% of the world's population.
Even if they're correct (best case?), over 80% of the world's population is damned.
What kind of God would let that happen?
He's either impotent, evil, or just doesn't give a damn about what we think.
Where is your God now?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Christian atheists
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Date: April 06, 2013 02:04PM
I think intelligent 'believers' are generally atheists and attend church functions for their moral teachings and social benefits. It provides ties to the community that many wouldn't share otherwise.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ChillingWithSatan
()
Date: April 06, 2013 02:49PM
Christian atheists is so true ^^^^^^^^
Haven't told my parents that I'm atheist so I still go to the mosque and learn their fundamentals teaching. Its good to be knowledge in what others believe, because if you don't take everyone's beliefs you would be ignorant. Assimilate with other people, you can learn something good from anyone.
Personally, I don't believe in God, but I think religion is overall good. People do nice things because of religion. Sure there are some bad people, but there are also bad atheist, I just refuse to believe, because I don't have substantial evidence to do so.
Haven't told my parents that I'm atheist so I still go to the mosque and learn their fundamentals teaching. Its good to be knowledge in what others believe, because if you don't take everyone's beliefs you would be ignorant. Assimilate with other people, you can learn something good from anyone.
Personally, I don't believe in God, but I think religion is overall good. People do nice things because of religion. Sure there are some bad people, but there are also bad atheist, I just refuse to believe, because I don't have substantial evidence to do so.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 06, 2013 04:09PM
It's a function of your intelligence whether or not you actually believe or not believe in a God.
For myself, I just can't accept the rationalization and selective examples that God believers use to justify and explain everything.
There are a lot of christian non-believers, as well as other faiths, for cultural purposes.
Is religion good? Look at how many conflicts are started over religion.
Intelligent people know it's a myth and realize that you can't help the less intelligent, so why bother.
It amazes me that so many people can subscribe to something without the slightest bit of proof.
For myself, I just can't accept the rationalization and selective examples that God believers use to justify and explain everything.
There are a lot of christian non-believers, as well as other faiths, for cultural purposes.
Is religion good? Look at how many conflicts are started over religion.
Intelligent people know it's a myth and realize that you can't help the less intelligent, so why bother.
It amazes me that so many people can subscribe to something without the slightest bit of proof.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
But...
()
Date: April 06, 2013 04:40PM
ChillingWithSatan Wrote:
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> People do nice things
> because of religion.
Good people don't need religion to do nice things.
Good and God aren't inter-dependent.
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> People do nice things
> because of religion.
Good people don't need religion to do nice things.
Good and God aren't inter-dependent.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
FFU Poster
()
Date: April 06, 2013 04:56PM
you are all liberals
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:18PM
I'm a conservative athiest.
I think faggots have a birth defect and gay marriage is silly.
I think welfare only encourages more welfare.
I think anyone that believes in God is on the lower end (left side) of the bell curve.
People with intelligence know it's a myth.
Enjoy like, because this is as good as it gets.
I think faggots have a birth defect and gay marriage is silly.
I think welfare only encourages more welfare.
I think anyone that believes in God is on the lower end (left side) of the bell curve.
People with intelligence know it's a myth.
Enjoy like, because this is as good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Insight
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:19PM
When people are "good" just because they believe there's some kind of "heavenly" payoff, it's a reflection of their own character. We can train any dog to do tricks with a appropriate motivational methods.
There's nothing "good" about being a kind person when the only goal is obtain a reward for themselves or to avoid an eternal punishment.
Kind acts from an Atheist have pure motivation, and are an honest reflection of the warmth within themselves.
A group that believes it's okay to hate others because they aren't the same - while they gather on Sundays to tell each other how great they are - is no different than a street gang.
There's nothing "good" about being a kind person when the only goal is obtain a reward for themselves or to avoid an eternal punishment.
Kind acts from an Atheist have pure motivation, and are an honest reflection of the warmth within themselves.
A group that believes it's okay to hate others because they aren't the same - while they gather on Sundays to tell each other how great they are - is no different than a street gang.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ChillingWithSatan
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:21PM
But... Wrote:
>Good people don't need religion to do nice things.
>Good and God aren't inter-dependent.
I never said good and god are interdependent, or the good people need religion to do nice things, I was just saying that most people who follow religion do nice things because of religion. Its like whether an airplane can fly or not. We are all airplanes, but our engines and other physical components determine whether we fly (or do good in this case) or not. Our engines and other physical components correspond to what may be an atheist's logical thinking, or a theist's morals and teaching guided by religion. Without religion some people wouldn't be able to fly, but you religion does not necessarily have to fuel your engine.
Religion or not, we are all humans and we need to coexist in the air (this earth), and essentially fly (do good).
>Good people don't need religion to do nice things.
>Good and God aren't inter-dependent.
I never said good and god are interdependent, or the good people need religion to do nice things, I was just saying that most people who follow religion do nice things because of religion. Its like whether an airplane can fly or not. We are all airplanes, but our engines and other physical components determine whether we fly (or do good in this case) or not. Our engines and other physical components correspond to what may be an atheist's logical thinking, or a theist's morals and teaching guided by religion. Without religion some people wouldn't be able to fly, but you religion does not necessarily have to fuel your engine.
Religion or not, we are all humans and we need to coexist in the air (this earth), and essentially fly (do good).
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
FFU Logic
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Date: April 06, 2013 05:21PM
Conservatives believe in religion, so if you do not believe in religion you are a liberal.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
jewbaiter
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:25PM
If there was a real God, do you think He would have created niggers and faggots?
How do christians explain the nigger and faggot problem?
If God really loves us, why did he put niggers and faggots on the earth?
Think about it!
How do christians explain the nigger and faggot problem?
If God really loves us, why did he put niggers and faggots on the earth?
Think about it!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:37PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/allahu-akbar-hang-the-atheist-bloggers-100000-march-in-bangladesh-demanding-execution-of-atheist-blo.html
Keep acting like a prayer sign in a public school is a gross crime against humanity while ignoring actual daily crimes against humanity committed by muslimes...
Atheists are so retarded.
Keep acting like a prayer sign in a public school is a gross crime against humanity while ignoring actual daily crimes against humanity committed by muslimes...
Atheists are so retarded.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Yucky Proves The Reverse Again..
()
Date: April 06, 2013 05:53PM
From the article:
"Under the country's cyber laws, a blogger or Internet writer can face up to 10 years in jail for defaming a religion."
Based on that quote, though, I guess you'd serve 10 years for talking smack about Jesus too.
This is what can happen when you have state-sponsored religion, and prayer in schools.
"Under the country's cyber laws, a blogger or Internet writer can face up to 10 years in jail for defaming a religion."
Based on that quote, though, I guess you'd serve 10 years for talking smack about Jesus too.
This is what can happen when you have state-sponsored religion, and prayer in schools.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: April 06, 2013 06:24PM
Nope. Muslimes only pretend to oppose criticism of other religions besides pisslam in order to advance sharia law. They're doing the same thing in the UN. Muslimes criticize Christians all the time and are never punished for it.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: April 06, 2013 07:51PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> People with intelligence know it's a myth.
>
> Enjoy like, because this is as good as it gets.
Say no more.
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> People with intelligence know it's a myth.
>
> Enjoy like, because this is as good as it gets.
Say no more.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
enjoy like
()
Date: April 06, 2013 07:52PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People with intelligence know it's a myth.
> >
> > Enjoy like because this is as good as it gets.
>
>
> Say no more.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People with intelligence know it's a myth.
> >
> > Enjoy like because this is as good as it gets.
>
>
> Say no more.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
why is it
()
Date: April 06, 2013 10:11PM
Why is it when people criticize or make fun of Jesus, Christians don't say anything, but when someone say something bad about Muhammad there are protest, killings, and they get sent to jail?
I mean Jesus is also a prophet in Islam, isn't that a double standard? Doesn't it also show that Muslims are angry people? I realize Islam means peace, but does it really when your people don't correlate with the religion?
I mean Jesus is also a prophet in Islam, isn't that a double standard? Doesn't it also show that Muslims are angry people? I realize Islam means peace, but does it really when your people don't correlate with the religion?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
serious question
()
Date: April 06, 2013 10:49PM
Are there any muslims that become atheist? And why would you become atheist?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 06, 2013 11:31PM
Yes, I believe in God. I hate the "do good deeds now, be rewarded" mindset of many people, and I hate the "believe or go to Hell" mindset of many people as well. Based on my study of religion, you should do good deeds because they make the world a better place, not for some sort of spiritual reward. Moreover, when you die, God doesn't care if you believed or not. He will judge you on YOUR character, not if you followed what the priest/minister/rabbi/imam said.
Do good things to help other people; be a good person so you may help make the world a better place. The "believe or go to hell" line is nonsense.
Do good things to help other people; be a good person so you may help make the world a better place. The "believe or go to hell" line is nonsense.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 12:18AM
"Ugh. You fucking ignorant and racist Islamophobes are so retarded and the joke of the whole world."
"Islam is obviously a tolerant religion of peace. You can't judge an entire religion of 1+ billion people because of a tiny, tiny minority of extremists living in the caves of Afghanistan! Grow brains, you Tea Bagger Rednecks!"
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/06/god-is-great-hang-the-atheist-bloggers-hundreds-of-thousands-rally-in-bangladesh-for-anti-blasphemy-laws/
Tiny minority of extremists my ass.
THIS. IS. ISLAM.
"Islam is obviously a tolerant religion of peace. You can't judge an entire religion of 1+ billion people because of a tiny, tiny minority of extremists living in the caves of Afghanistan! Grow brains, you Tea Bagger Rednecks!"
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/06/god-is-great-hang-the-atheist-bloggers-hundreds-of-thousands-rally-in-bangladesh-for-anti-blasphemy-laws/
Tiny minority of extremists my ass.
THIS. IS. ISLAM.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 12:42AM
People, don't you think that if there was a real God that He would make His presence known so that there would be no doubt about His existence?
Intelligent people know it's a myth.
If God created man, there would be one religion in the world and everyone would know that it was true. There would be no doubt. Belief wouldn't require faith is stories and myths passed down through the ages.
If man created God, there would be different religions around the world that conflict. People's religion would be a function of where they were born. And, there would be no proof of the existence of a God or Gods. There would be many versions of God and certain myths and beliefs would rise and fade over the history of humans.
Think about it people, what is the case of religion in the world?
Intelligent people don't believe in myths.
Intelligent people know it's a myth.
If God created man, there would be one religion in the world and everyone would know that it was true. There would be no doubt. Belief wouldn't require faith is stories and myths passed down through the ages.
If man created God, there would be different religions around the world that conflict. People's religion would be a function of where they were born. And, there would be no proof of the existence of a God or Gods. There would be many versions of God and certain myths and beliefs would rise and fade over the history of humans.
Think about it people, what is the case of religion in the world?
Intelligent people don't believe in myths.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 07, 2013 12:53AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> People, don't you think that if there was a real
> God that He would make His presence known so that
> there would be no doubt about His existence?
>
> Intelligent people know it's a myth.
>
> If God created man, there would be one religion in
> the world and everyone would know that it was
> true. There would be no doubt. Belief wouldn't
> require faith is stories and myths passed down
> through the ages.
>
> If man created God, there would be different
> religions around the world that conflict. People's
> religion would be a function of where they were
> born. And, there would be no proof of the
> existence of a God or Gods. There would be many
> versions of God and certain myths and beliefs
> would rise and fade over the history of humans.
>
> Think about it people, what is the case of
> religion in the world?
>
> Intelligent people don't believe in myths.
You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
We can't see electricity either. Does that mean it doesn't exist?
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> People, don't you think that if there was a real
> God that He would make His presence known so that
> there would be no doubt about His existence?
>
> Intelligent people know it's a myth.
>
> If God created man, there would be one religion in
> the world and everyone would know that it was
> true. There would be no doubt. Belief wouldn't
> require faith is stories and myths passed down
> through the ages.
>
> If man created God, there would be different
> religions around the world that conflict. People's
> religion would be a function of where they were
> born. And, there would be no proof of the
> existence of a God or Gods. There would be many
> versions of God and certain myths and beliefs
> would rise and fade over the history of humans.
>
> Think about it people, what is the case of
> religion in the world?
>
> Intelligent people don't believe in myths.
You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
We can't see electricity either. Does that mean it doesn't exist?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Mr. Yahweh
()
Date: April 07, 2013 01:03AM
YC has the faith!!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
don't get tricked
()
Date: April 07, 2013 01:18AM
Not only can't we see it, but the words are made up by people who are self-deluded and want you to believe they're in contact with the spirit. I've seen the same thing with spiritualists. What they often describe is their own thoughts, not the thought of any higher being. That's why they're call them impressions .... since they think of something and then fill in the blanks using their imagination.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 01:23AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
>
> We can't see electricity either. Does that mean it
> doesn't exist?
If you want a good example of the limited ability of believes to think critically, this is a good example. It's because of people like this that myths are believed as fact.
We can prove the existence of electricity. We can prove the existence of a lot of things that are not readily visible to the human eye. The study of physics is a good example where many objects are proven that don't exist visibly.
However, we can't prove myths. The exact same level of proof exists for the existence of a God as existed for the existence of Greek Gods, Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
There is no proof and everybody knows it. The intelligent people know why. The intelligent people know it's only a myth that depends on other telling stories that others will believe.
It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
>
> We can't see electricity either. Does that mean it
> doesn't exist?
If you want a good example of the limited ability of believes to think critically, this is a good example. It's because of people like this that myths are believed as fact.
We can prove the existence of electricity. We can prove the existence of a lot of things that are not readily visible to the human eye. The study of physics is a good example where many objects are proven that don't exist visibly.
However, we can't prove myths. The exact same level of proof exists for the existence of a God as existed for the existence of Greek Gods, Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
There is no proof and everybody knows it. The intelligent people know why. The intelligent people know it's only a myth that depends on other telling stories that others will believe.
It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
god almighty
()
Date: April 07, 2013 02:58AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> > You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> > see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
> >
> > We can't see electricity either. Does that mean
> it
> > doesn't exist?
>
> If you want a good example of the limited ability
> of believes to think critically, this is a good
> example. It's because of people like this that
> myths are believed as fact.
>
> We can prove the existence of electricity. We can
> prove the existence of a lot of things that are
> not readily visible to the human eye. The study of
> physics is a good example where many objects are
> proven that don't exist visibly.
>
> However, we can't prove myths. The exact same
> level of proof exists for the existence of a God
> as existed for the existence of Greek Gods,
> Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
>
> There is no proof and everybody knows it. The
> intelligent people know why. The intelligent
> people know it's only a myth that depends on other
> telling stories that others will believe.
>
> It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to
> be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure
> you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus
> and the Easter Bunny.
Who gives a flying fuck about this shit?
STFU.... You are boring and gay...
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> > You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> > see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
> >
> > We can't see electricity either. Does that mean
> it
> > doesn't exist?
>
> If you want a good example of the limited ability
> of believes to think critically, this is a good
> example. It's because of people like this that
> myths are believed as fact.
>
> We can prove the existence of electricity. We can
> prove the existence of a lot of things that are
> not readily visible to the human eye. The study of
> physics is a good example where many objects are
> proven that don't exist visibly.
>
> However, we can't prove myths. The exact same
> level of proof exists for the existence of a God
> as existed for the existence of Greek Gods,
> Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
>
> There is no proof and everybody knows it. The
> intelligent people know why. The intelligent
> people know it's only a myth that depends on other
> telling stories that others will believe.
>
> It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to
> be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure
> you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus
> and the Easter Bunny.
Who gives a flying fuck about this shit?
STFU.... You are boring and gay...
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:25AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LackofFaith Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> > see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
> >
> > We can't see electricity either. Does that mean
> it
> > doesn't exist?
>
> If you want a good example of the limited ability
> of believes to think critically, this is a good
> example. It's because of people like this that
> myths are believed as fact.
>
> We can prove the existence of electricity. We can
> prove the existence of a lot of things that are
> not readily visible to the human eye. The study of
> physics is a good example where many objects are
> proven that don't exist visibly.
>
> However, we can't prove myths. The exact same
> level of proof exists for the existence of a God
> as existed for the existence of Greek Gods,
> Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
>
> There is no proof and everybody knows it. The
> intelligent people know why. The intelligent
> people know it's only a myth that depends on other
> telling stories that others will believe.
>
> It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to
> be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure
> you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus
> and the Easter Bunny.
Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top 1% of the population. I was giving an indication of your childish reasoning skills. There's evidence; you choose to ignore it. The Scientific Method categorically says that you can't prove things, you can only support or refute them.
You're a typical atheist. Everyone who agrees with you is intelligent, but everyone who disagrees is ignorant or unable to think critically. You must be a liberal. Go ahead and explain to everyone how gravity is at a very certain value, and if it wasn't, nothing would exist. Go explain to people how chemosynthesis is actually not a valid theory, because most of it is based in junk science. Oh, I'm sorry, that doesn't fit in your narrative.
Seriously, your entire argument boils down to "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times that there is, and you'd still disagree. Do us all a favor and go back to Mommy's basement.
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LackofFaith Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > You're using very childish reasoning. "We can't
> > see it, therefore it doesn't exist."
> >
> > We can't see electricity either. Does that mean
> it
> > doesn't exist?
>
> If you want a good example of the limited ability
> of believes to think critically, this is a good
> example. It's because of people like this that
> myths are believed as fact.
>
> We can prove the existence of electricity. We can
> prove the existence of a lot of things that are
> not readily visible to the human eye. The study of
> physics is a good example where many objects are
> proven that don't exist visibly.
>
> However, we can't prove myths. The exact same
> level of proof exists for the existence of a God
> as existed for the existence of Greek Gods,
> Eygptian Gods, Roman Gods, etc..., NONE!
>
> There is no proof and everybody knows it. The
> intelligent people know why. The intelligent
> people know it's only a myth that depends on other
> telling stories that others will believe.
>
> It's a myth and you know it. I'm sorry to have to
> be the one to break the bad news to you. I'm sure
> you will get over it like you did for Santa Claus
> and the Easter Bunny.
Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top 1% of the population. I was giving an indication of your childish reasoning skills. There's evidence; you choose to ignore it. The Scientific Method categorically says that you can't prove things, you can only support or refute them.
You're a typical atheist. Everyone who agrees with you is intelligent, but everyone who disagrees is ignorant or unable to think critically. You must be a liberal. Go ahead and explain to everyone how gravity is at a very certain value, and if it wasn't, nothing would exist. Go explain to people how chemosynthesis is actually not a valid theory, because most of it is based in junk science. Oh, I'm sorry, that doesn't fit in your narrative.
Seriously, your entire argument boils down to "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times that there is, and you'd still disagree. Do us all a favor and go back to Mommy's basement.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:30AM
Athiest don't believe in the supernatural, myths or stories based on legend.
I'm always amused by the reaction of "believers" when they are confronted with the truth.
Believers don't want to face the truth. Deep down they know it's a myth, but find it too painful to accept.
The truth shall set you free!
Demand the truth and don't accept any myths as fact without proof.
Being an athiest is merely rejecting myths and the supernatural. Athiest's views on niggers, faggots and gay marriage are as varied as their views on other topics. Athiests accept the truth and demand proof.
Besides, deep down, you know it's a myth.
I'm always amused by the reaction of "believers" when they are confronted with the truth.
Believers don't want to face the truth. Deep down they know it's a myth, but find it too painful to accept.
The truth shall set you free!
Demand the truth and don't accept any myths as fact without proof.
Being an athiest is merely rejecting myths and the supernatural. Athiest's views on niggers, faggots and gay marriage are as varied as their views on other topics. Athiests accept the truth and demand proof.
Besides, deep down, you know it's a myth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:32AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Athiest don't believe in the supernatural, myths
> or stories based on legend.
Therefore, the Roman Empire never existed. Why? Because there's no physical way to prove that aliens didn't come down from the heavens and create it.
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> Athiest don't believe in the supernatural, myths
> or stories based on legend.
Therefore, the Roman Empire never existed. Why? Because there's no physical way to prove that aliens didn't come down from the heavens and create it.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
serious answer
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:39AM
serious question Wrote:
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> Are there any muslims that become atheist? And why
> would you become atheist?
For many - maybe most - Atheists, becoming one isn't a choice. In fact, for me, it was one of the toughest things that ever happened. My family's reaction wasn't unlike the one you'd expect from homophobic parents when their child comes out of the closet.
A lot of us hear the same rhetoric growing up, such as "Atheists are evil", and even the clearly idiotic extreme which likens Atheists to Satanists. Breaking away from that and risking the alienation that follows isn't something you just decide to do one day.
There are people who claim to be Atheists, but when you talk to them, you find out that they're just angry at God, which underscores the idea that they believe he exists. And there are Atheists who continue to pretend otherwise, because it's easier than to that than to risk the repercussions that the truth might bring. The situation for Atheists is much better today than it was when I was a child, but it's still not without challenges.
An Atheist is generally someone who's spent a lot of time thinking, and many of us have actually even prayed to find faith as the last vestiges of our belief slip away.
We don't choose what to believe -- we just choose to be honest with ourselves and with others.
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> Are there any muslims that become atheist? And why
> would you become atheist?
For many - maybe most - Atheists, becoming one isn't a choice. In fact, for me, it was one of the toughest things that ever happened. My family's reaction wasn't unlike the one you'd expect from homophobic parents when their child comes out of the closet.
A lot of us hear the same rhetoric growing up, such as "Atheists are evil", and even the clearly idiotic extreme which likens Atheists to Satanists. Breaking away from that and risking the alienation that follows isn't something you just decide to do one day.
There are people who claim to be Atheists, but when you talk to them, you find out that they're just angry at God, which underscores the idea that they believe he exists. And there are Atheists who continue to pretend otherwise, because it's easier than to that than to risk the repercussions that the truth might bring. The situation for Atheists is much better today than it was when I was a child, but it's still not without challenges.
An Atheist is generally someone who's spent a lot of time thinking, and many of us have actually even prayed to find faith as the last vestiges of our belief slip away.
We don't choose what to believe -- we just choose to be honest with ourselves and with others.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:42AM
Young Curmudgeon, you know it's a myth. Accept it.
I don't understand why someone that claims to be so intelligent, refuses to examine the facts, study the history of revision, and demand the truth.
Deep down, everyone with the least bit of intelligence knows it's a myth.
Ask yourself, it there was really a God, do you think there would be so many cases of priests abusing children? If there is a God, why are their so many people with birth defects that result in homosexual behavior?
Please review the Sam Harris YouTube video posted above and give my your response to his argument against the myth of religion.
Deep down, you know it's a myth and you know I'm right.
I don't understand why someone that claims to be so intelligent, refuses to examine the facts, study the history of revision, and demand the truth.
Deep down, everyone with the least bit of intelligence knows it's a myth.
Ask yourself, it there was really a God, do you think there would be so many cases of priests abusing children? If there is a God, why are their so many people with birth defects that result in homosexual behavior?
Please review the Sam Harris YouTube video posted above and give my your response to his argument against the myth of religion.
Deep down, you know it's a myth and you know I'm right.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Alias
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:48AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Athiest's views on niggers, faggots
> and gay marriage are as varied as their views on
> other topics.
HA! One can only imagine the other topics.... lol.
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> Athiest's views on niggers, faggots
> and gay marriage are as varied as their views on
> other topics.
HA! One can only imagine the other topics.... lol.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Another Perspective
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:48AM
We all have something in common...
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
@ YC
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:52AM
YC, do ancient Greek and Roman gods exist?
This is a serious question, I am asking you if you believe in their existence?
This is a serious question, I am asking you if you believe in their existence?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:58AM
The good news is that more people are rejecting the myths of religion and accepting the fact that there is no God. You don't have a big bud in the sky looking out for you. There is no life after death. This is it. It doesn't get any better than this. After you die, you don't exist in any form. Your body will decay just like road kill. Worldwide, religion is on the decline due to education and communication systems. The people realize that religion doesn't serve any purpose in the information age.
You know it's a myth. Seek the truth and reject legends and myths without proof.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
You know it's a myth. Seek the truth and reject legends and myths without proof.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
@ YC
()
Date: April 07, 2013 03:59AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> >
>
>
>
> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the
> top 1% of the population. I was giving an
> indication of your childish reasoning skills.
> There's evidence; you choose to ignore it. The
> Scientific Method categorically says that you
> can't prove things, you can only support or refute
> them.
>
> You're a typical atheist. Everyone who agrees with
> you is intelligent, but everyone who disagrees is
> ignorant or unable to think critically. You must
> be a liberal. Go ahead and explain to everyone how
> gravity is at a very certain value, and if it
> wasn't, nothing would exist. Go explain to people
> how chemosynthesis is actually not a valid theory,
> because most of it is based in junk science. Oh,
> I'm sorry, that doesn't fit in your narrative.
>
> Seriously, your entire argument boils down to
> "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times
> that there is, and you'd still disagree. Do us all
> a favor and go back to Mommy's basement.
ROFL!!!!
Nevermind
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> >
>
>
>
> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the
> top 1% of the population. I was giving an
> indication of your childish reasoning skills.
> There's evidence; you choose to ignore it. The
> Scientific Method categorically says that you
> can't prove things, you can only support or refute
> them.
>
> You're a typical atheist. Everyone who agrees with
> you is intelligent, but everyone who disagrees is
> ignorant or unable to think critically. You must
> be a liberal. Go ahead and explain to everyone how
> gravity is at a very certain value, and if it
> wasn't, nothing would exist. Go explain to people
> how chemosynthesis is actually not a valid theory,
> because most of it is based in junk science. Oh,
> I'm sorry, that doesn't fit in your narrative.
>
> Seriously, your entire argument boils down to
> "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times
> that there is, and you'd still disagree. Do us all
> a favor and go back to Mommy's basement.
ROFL!!!!
Nevermind
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Dear God
()
Date: April 07, 2013 04:01AM
I believe everyone should be able to believe what they want and no one should care or question anyone else's beliefs since no matter what they believe it doesn't pay your bills, put food on your table, doesn't determine where you are going where you die and it just really doesn't matter at all, does it?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 04:15AM
Dear God Wrote:
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> I believe everyone should be able to believe what
> they want and no one should care or question
> anyone else's beliefs since no matter what they
> believe it doesn't pay your bills, put food on
> your table, doesn't determine where you are going
> where you die and it just really doesn't matter at
> all, does it?
I believe people shouldn't go around spreading myths as fact and telling everyone that God exists. We all know there is no proof of a God.
A review of the facts and studying the history of religion, the perponderance of the valid information indicates man created the God myth. People have been making up stories and making false statements since the beginning.
Science has advanced by discovery, experiment and proof to displace most of what early religions claimed as true. We know that early religions explanations for the world we live in were false. Read what church officials did to Galileo when he claimed the earth revolved around the sun; the church claimed the sun revolved around the earth.
Science is making religion irrelevant. There is no need for religion.
Set yourself free. Deep down you know God is a myth. Demand the truth and don't accept anything without proof. If you want to believe in God, demand proof of God and seek the truth.
You know it's a myth.
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> I believe everyone should be able to believe what
> they want and no one should care or question
> anyone else's beliefs since no matter what they
> believe it doesn't pay your bills, put food on
> your table, doesn't determine where you are going
> where you die and it just really doesn't matter at
> all, does it?
I believe people shouldn't go around spreading myths as fact and telling everyone that God exists. We all know there is no proof of a God.
A review of the facts and studying the history of religion, the perponderance of the valid information indicates man created the God myth. People have been making up stories and making false statements since the beginning.
Science has advanced by discovery, experiment and proof to displace most of what early religions claimed as true. We know that early religions explanations for the world we live in were false. Read what church officials did to Galileo when he claimed the earth revolved around the sun; the church claimed the sun revolved around the earth.
Science is making religion irrelevant. There is no need for religion.
Set yourself free. Deep down you know God is a myth. Demand the truth and don't accept anything without proof. If you want to believe in God, demand proof of God and seek the truth.
You know it's a myth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Laughing at YC
()
Date: April 07, 2013 04:26AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top
> 1% of the population.
> Seriously, your entire argument boils down to
> "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times
> that there is, and you'd still disagree.
+1 for the most inadvertently funny thing on this thread.
Arguing is what two people do when neither can prove their case.
A high IQ shows intelligence POTENTIAL, it doesn't mean that you're smart.
Don't feel bad though - my 10 year old Son has a high IQ, but he hasn't really had time to figure everything out, either.
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> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top
> 1% of the population.
> Seriously, your entire argument boils down to
> "there's no proof." I could argue a thousand times
> that there is, and you'd still disagree.
+1 for the most inadvertently funny thing on this thread.
Arguing is what two people do when neither can prove their case.
A high IQ shows intelligence POTENTIAL, it doesn't mean that you're smart.
Don't feel bad though - my 10 year old Son has a high IQ, but he hasn't really had time to figure everything out, either.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 04:34AM
People of the FairfaxUnderground, there are basically two types of people. You have intelligent people and you have sheeple.
What type of person are you?
If you are intelligent, you know that it's easy to upset the sheeple.
So, be careful when you try to tell the sheeple something that goes against their core beliefs. A lot of sheeple believe in God. So, you've got to be patient when you point out that the God myth lacks proof and that the myth was created by early shaman trying to exert influence over their fellow villagers.
Be patient with the sheeple. Some of the sheeple can be saved from a life of ignorance. Give the sheeple time to accept the fact that they have been programmed to believe the myths of religion. Religious belief is just like a cult. These people need help to set them free of the falsehoods of their religious teachings. If you are patient you will see progress in sheeple overcoming the false programming of religious teachings.
Deep down, sheeple know it's a myth, but the herd mentality makes it difficult for them to break away and think for themselves.
What type of person are you?
If you are intelligent, you know that it's easy to upset the sheeple.
So, be careful when you try to tell the sheeple something that goes against their core beliefs. A lot of sheeple believe in God. So, you've got to be patient when you point out that the God myth lacks proof and that the myth was created by early shaman trying to exert influence over their fellow villagers.
Be patient with the sheeple. Some of the sheeple can be saved from a life of ignorance. Give the sheeple time to accept the fact that they have been programmed to believe the myths of religion. Religious belief is just like a cult. These people need help to set them free of the falsehoods of their religious teachings. If you are patient you will see progress in sheeple overcoming the false programming of religious teachings.
Deep down, sheeple know it's a myth, but the herd mentality makes it difficult for them to break away and think for themselves.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 04:51AM
Did I mention that we atheists enjoy a variety of views on subjects such as niggers and queers?
My point is... I don't believe in your fairy tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies. Or black dudes...
My point is... I don't believe in your fairy tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies. Or black dudes...
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 05:22AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Did I mention that we atheists enjoy a variety of
> views on subjects such as niggers and queers?
>
> My point is... I don't believe in your fairy
> tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies. Or
> black dudes...
Dude, come up with your own username.
I don't understand you point, but I assume you are a believer.
If you believe and accept the bible, then you believe and accept a lot of perverted values. Yes there are some acceptable values exposed in the bible, but there are also many perverted values.
Can each individual beliver pick and choose or cherry pick what they like in the bible or must they accept the entire document?
If the bible was written by the "hand of God," then the early God of the time made a lot of bad choices to teach. The stories don't hold up over time which is an indication that they are just Bronze Age myths.
Relax dude. You know it's a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. Treat people right and don't accept any myths, legends, or stories without proof.
Most of all, relax and enjoy life, because there is no after-life.
Rejoice, because you know it's a myth.
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> Did I mention that we atheists enjoy a variety of
> views on subjects such as niggers and queers?
>
> My point is... I don't believe in your fairy
> tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies. Or
> black dudes...
Dude, come up with your own username.
I don't understand you point, but I assume you are a believer.
If you believe and accept the bible, then you believe and accept a lot of perverted values. Yes there are some acceptable values exposed in the bible, but there are also many perverted values.
Can each individual beliver pick and choose or cherry pick what they like in the bible or must they accept the entire document?
If the bible was written by the "hand of God," then the early God of the time made a lot of bad choices to teach. The stories don't hold up over time which is an indication that they are just Bronze Age myths.
Relax dude. You know it's a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. Treat people right and don't accept any myths, legends, or stories without proof.
Most of all, relax and enjoy life, because there is no after-life.
Rejoice, because you know it's a myth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Dear God
()
Date: April 07, 2013 05:49AM
I read your first sentence to your reply to me and then I just stopped. So to reply to your reply to me I'm just going to give you a resounding "okay"
Okay.
Okay.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 05:51AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did I mention that we atheists enjoy a variety
> of
> > views on subjects such as niggers and queers?
> > My point is... I don't believe in your fairy
> > tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies.
> Or
> > black dudes...
> Dude, come up with your own username.
No, I like your name.
> I don't understand you point, but I assume you are
> a believer.
I can't chat; got a hangin' to go to.
Chow
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did I mention that we atheists enjoy a variety
> of
> > views on subjects such as niggers and queers?
> > My point is... I don't believe in your fairy
> > tale, but that doesn't mean I'm into fairies.
> Or
> > black dudes...
> Dude, come up with your own username.
No, I like your name.
> I don't understand you point, but I assume you are
> a believer.
I can't chat; got a hangin' to go to.
Chow
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ebb and flow, even flow
()
Date: April 07, 2013 05:53AM
No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. God made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God . You are a part of God. No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. god made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God . You are a part of God, like it or not.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:01AM
ebb and flow, even flow Wrote:
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> No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this
> universe.. God made it happen.. WE all make up the
> body of God . You are a part of God. No, God is
> the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. god
> made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God .
> You are a part of God, like it or not.
Ah, fucking men, brother.
You must be a gay.
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> No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this
> universe.. God made it happen.. WE all make up the
> body of God . You are a part of God. No, God is
> the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. god
> made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God .
> You are a part of God, like it or not.
Ah, fucking men, brother.
You must be a gay.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ebb and flow, even flow
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:05AM
Well, no. I'm not, but you must be if you're wondering such a thing. You must be an atheist - your anger gave it away.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:06AM
To all the believers, if you insist on asserting the existence of a God, please provide some proof to support your belief. If you don't have any proof, just admit it. If you know that there is no proof, but you still believe, please state why you believe. If you know it's a myth and you don't care, that's OK. We all know it's a myth. Some people or sheeple like to believe in myths for the comfort they derive from the good feelings the myth produces. That is OK too. We all can't be on the upper end (right side) of the bell curve.
If you possess personal integrity and seek the truth, as well as reject all assertions that lack proof, you are on the right track in life. You will come to realize that myths serve no purpose in our modern world. Beliefs in myths inhibit progress and personal development.
Relax and enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no after-life. You don't have a big bud in the sky that loves you and listens to your prayers. That is a myth that you were taught as a child. You need to work on your belief system and purge all the falsehoods and myths you were taught as a child. You will find happiness in the truth.
If you possess personal integrity and seek the truth, as well as reject all assertions that lack proof, you are on the right track in life. You will come to realize that myths serve no purpose in our modern world. Beliefs in myths inhibit progress and personal development.
Relax and enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no after-life. You don't have a big bud in the sky that loves you and listens to your prayers. That is a myth that you were taught as a child. You need to work on your belief system and purge all the falsehoods and myths you were taught as a child. You will find happiness in the truth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:09AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> ebb and flow, even flow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this
> > universe.. God made it happen.. WE all make up
> the
> > body of God . You are a part of God. No, God is
> > the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. god
> > made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God
> .
> > You are a part of God, like it or not.
>
>
> Ah, fucking men, brother.
>
> You must be a gay.
Dude, you should really come up with your own username. I know you want to be like me, but you should try to seek your own identity.
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> ebb and flow, even flow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, God is the eternal ebb and flow of this
> > universe.. God made it happen.. WE all make up
> the
> > body of God . You are a part of God. No, God is
> > the eternal ebb and flow of this universe.. god
> > made it happen.. WE all make up the body of God
> .
> > You are a part of God, like it or not.
>
>
> Ah, fucking men, brother.
>
> You must be a gay.
Dude, you should really come up with your own username. I know you want to be like me, but you should try to seek your own identity.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:09AM
ebb and flow, even flow Wrote:
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> Well, no. I'm not, but you must be if you're
> wondering such a thing. You must be an atheist -
> your anger gave it away.
I am gay and was wanting to suck your cock!
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> Well, no. I'm not, but you must be if you're
> wondering such a thing. You must be an atheist -
> your anger gave it away.
I am gay and was wanting to suck your cock!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Defendant
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:11AM
This thread has turned into one guy fighting with himself.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
You blame God for your problems
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:17AM
People who don't believe in God don't believe because something happened to them in their lifetime that made them question and lose their faith. Atheist lack the "Zen gene" - look it up, and are very angry and belligerent people. They cannot meditate or reach a higher level of consciousness. It's really sad and it's not their fault. Pity them, don't belittle them or stoop down to their level. They are the ones living in their own personal hell, daily.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:26AM
Defendant Wrote:
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> This thread has turned into one guy fighting with
> himself.
Yes there is a fake "LackofFaith" that is posting here. He's a fake just like the God is a fake.
I don't mind him using the same username, but it is confusing to the sheeple that get confused.
To all the sheeple on the FFU website, relax and enjoy life, because after this, you will be dead and gone forever. There is no heaven and ever if there was, you'd likely not get assigned there.
Let's pretend that there is a heaven and a hell. Who do you suppose is going to get into heaven? I don't think the faggots will get into heaven, because they like to perform perverted sexual acts on each other. I don't think the niggers will go to heaven, because most of them will have served time in jail for crimes against their fellow neighbors. I don't think all the non-christians will go to heaven, because that is what the bible teaches. I don't think all the non-catholics will go to heaven, because that is what previous Popes have indicated and we all know the Pope is infallible. Since the non-faggot white catholics make up a very small portion of the total population of the world, I think you can see that there will be a lot of room in heaven and hell will be jammed up. So, if you are a believer and you don't fit the profile to go to heaven, you might as well do a little self reflection and reconsider your beliefe system. Seek the truth and you will realize the God thing, along with heaven and hell is one big myth. So, you don't need to worry about not getting into heaven, because there is no heaven. Relax and enjoy life, because it doesn't get any better than this.
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> This thread has turned into one guy fighting with
> himself.
Yes there is a fake "LackofFaith" that is posting here. He's a fake just like the God is a fake.
I don't mind him using the same username, but it is confusing to the sheeple that get confused.
To all the sheeple on the FFU website, relax and enjoy life, because after this, you will be dead and gone forever. There is no heaven and ever if there was, you'd likely not get assigned there.
Let's pretend that there is a heaven and a hell. Who do you suppose is going to get into heaven? I don't think the faggots will get into heaven, because they like to perform perverted sexual acts on each other. I don't think the niggers will go to heaven, because most of them will have served time in jail for crimes against their fellow neighbors. I don't think all the non-christians will go to heaven, because that is what the bible teaches. I don't think all the non-catholics will go to heaven, because that is what previous Popes have indicated and we all know the Pope is infallible. Since the non-faggot white catholics make up a very small portion of the total population of the world, I think you can see that there will be a lot of room in heaven and hell will be jammed up. So, if you are a believer and you don't fit the profile to go to heaven, you might as well do a little self reflection and reconsider your beliefe system. Seek the truth and you will realize the God thing, along with heaven and hell is one big myth. So, you don't need to worry about not getting into heaven, because there is no heaven. Relax and enjoy life, because it doesn't get any better than this.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Believering
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:34AM
So where is your proof of all of this? No heaven and hell? I need your beliefs to be cited with facts. Beliefs are not facts. You have no proof. Thus, you may be wrong. Have you died? How would you know this? Talked to a dead person and they told you this first hand? Please, tell me where you're getting this all from.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:35AM
You blame God for your problems Wrote:
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> People who don't believe in God don't believe
> because something happened to them in their
> lifetime that made them question and lose their
> faith. Atheist lack the "Zen gene" - look it up,
> and are very angry and belligerent people. They
> cannot meditate or reach a higher level of
> consciousness. It's really sad and it's not their
> fault. Pity them, don't belittle them or stoop
> down to their level. They are the ones living in
> their own personal hell, daily.
Dude, let me let you in on a little secret, people that don't believe are smarter than the believers. Non-believers don't buy bullshit. Non-belivers don't accept myths without proof. We all know that the God thing is a myth and the myth must rely on "faith," because faith is all you've got when you don't have proof.
Another name for believers is sheeple. That isn't meant to be a compliment.
Deep down you know the God thing is a myth. Relax and enjoy life, because there is no after-life. When you die, you are gone for good.
-------------------------------------------------------
> People who don't believe in God don't believe
> because something happened to them in their
> lifetime that made them question and lose their
> faith. Atheist lack the "Zen gene" - look it up,
> and are very angry and belligerent people. They
> cannot meditate or reach a higher level of
> consciousness. It's really sad and it's not their
> fault. Pity them, don't belittle them or stoop
> down to their level. They are the ones living in
> their own personal hell, daily.
Dude, let me let you in on a little secret, people that don't believe are smarter than the believers. Non-believers don't buy bullshit. Non-belivers don't accept myths without proof. We all know that the God thing is a myth and the myth must rely on "faith," because faith is all you've got when you don't have proof.
Another name for believers is sheeple. That isn't meant to be a compliment.
Deep down you know the God thing is a myth. Relax and enjoy life, because there is no after-life. When you die, you are gone for good.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Personal Hell
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:37AM
Everything you just said was incorrect but do you think that if you repeat the same thing over and over that'll it'll be true or that maybe someone will believe you? Or are you just trying to convince yourself at this point?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Contradictory
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:39AM
No heaven and hell is a myth and you believe that.
Where's your proof that they DON'T exist?
Where's your proof that they DON'T exist?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:41AM
Personal Hell Wrote:
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> Everything you just said was incorrect but do you
> think that if you repeat the same thing over and
> over that'll it'll be true or that maybe someone
> will believe you? Or are you just trying to
> convince yourself at this point?
Everything that lacks proof is incorrect or false.
Do you have proof of a God and heaven and hell?
I didn't think so.
Relax and enjoy life, because after you are dead, you aren't going anywhere.
You it's myth, so enjoy life.
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> Everything you just said was incorrect but do you
> think that if you repeat the same thing over and
> over that'll it'll be true or that maybe someone
> will believe you? Or are you just trying to
> convince yourself at this point?
Everything that lacks proof is incorrect or false.
Do you have proof of a God and heaven and hell?
I didn't think so.
Relax and enjoy life, because after you are dead, you aren't going anywhere.
You it's myth, so enjoy life.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Personal Hell
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:44AM
Since you have no proof God, heaven and hell don't exist, it means you're wrong.
Your logic, remember that.
Your logic, remember that.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
You it's myth!!
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:45AM
" You it's myth, so enjoy life. "
So much for being smarter. Great sentence structure there.
So much for being smarter. Great sentence structure there.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Stumps
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:47AM
Contradictory Wrote:
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> No heaven and hell is a myth and you believe that.
>
>
> Where's your proof that they DON'T exist?
+666
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> No heaven and hell is a myth and you believe that.
>
>
> Where's your proof that they DON'T exist?
+666
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:48AM
When you're right, you're right. Goodnight.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:48AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Dude, you should really come up with your own
> username. I know you want to be like me, but you
> should try to seek your own identity.
I'm happy with my name; no need to seek out an identity. Identities are stupid and selfish.
Shit, I just saw a Jew. Gotta go get my gun. Later, my atheist twin.
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> Dude, you should really come up with your own
> username. I know you want to be like me, but you
> should try to seek your own identity.
I'm happy with my name; no need to seek out an identity. Identities are stupid and selfish.
Shit, I just saw a Jew. Gotta go get my gun. Later, my atheist twin.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Personal Hell
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:49AM
Wow, lol. Okay, um good morning. That was easy.
Bye, sad guy. I'm sorry about your life.
Bye, sad guy. I'm sorry about your life.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:52AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> When you're right, you're right. Goodnight.
Dude, why do you continue to use the same username?
Get a life dude.
I don't think there is a hell, but if there was, I think you'd be there, because you like to use other peoples usernames.
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> When you're right, you're right. Goodnight.
Dude, why do you continue to use the same username?
Get a life dude.
I don't think there is a hell, but if there was, I think you'd be there, because you like to use other peoples usernames.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:54AM
Dude, if you were so much smarter than the believers you'd know how to put an end to this.
What makes this so funny is the fact that it's more than one person doing this to you.
Shun the non believer, shunnnnn!
What makes this so funny is the fact that it's more than one person doing this to you.
Shun the non believer, shunnnnn!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:58AM
This isn't real! You can't prove there's more than one person and I can't prove that I'm not really pretending that other people are using my name so I can be a prick and blame it on someone else!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:15AM
o my fucking god
It just hit me.
I know nothing.
I'm just a speck of dust with a mental disorder that makes me act all arrogant and shit.
I'm douchebag pussy asshole.
It just hit me.
I know nothing.
I'm just a speck of dust with a mental disorder that makes me act all arrogant and shit.
I'm douchebag pussy asshole.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
How It Is
()
Date: April 07, 2013 08:53AM
Someone posted about Islam being a hateful religion...
That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains governmental backing and it becomes accepted to persecute others. Christianity has gone down the same road wherever and whenever it could. When you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull them into the mob mentality that religion fosters, they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting "group think" blinds them to the evils of what they do, because they're constantly surrounded by others who tell them that the moral high ground is theirs alone.
Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to keep church and state separate because God offends them, they do it because history has consistently proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix. Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as a shining example that it happens in countries which are white, educated, and relatively prosperous too.
I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call other people "evil" for believing - all that they ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs upon them, or ask for government backing. But pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it works when the question is reversed. Almost all of us have the potential for evil inside of us, but it can only be embraced without question in a large scale when adherents believe that they have God's support.
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That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains governmental backing and it becomes accepted to persecute others. Christianity has gone down the same road wherever and whenever it could. When you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull them into the mob mentality that religion fosters, they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting "group think" blinds them to the evils of what they do, because they're constantly surrounded by others who tell them that the moral high ground is theirs alone.
Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to keep church and state separate because God offends them, they do it because history has consistently proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix. Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as a shining example that it happens in countries which are white, educated, and relatively prosperous too.
I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call other people "evil" for believing - all that they ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs upon them, or ask for government backing. But pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it works when the question is reversed. Almost all of us have the potential for evil inside of us, but it can only be embraced without question in a large scale when adherents believe that they have God's support.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
The Other "LackOfFaith"
()
Date: April 07, 2013 09:05AM
It was Young Cumdragon... he tried to bury his own embarrassment.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 07, 2013 10:49AM
The Other "LackOfFaith" Wrote:
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> It was Young Cumdragon... he tried to bury his own
> embarrassment.
I'm about as embarrassed as George W. Bush was over the Iraq War. Not very.
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> It was Young Cumdragon... he tried to bury his own
> embarrassment.
I'm about as embarrassed as George W. Bush was over the Iraq War. Not very.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
STILL ROFLING
()
Date: April 07, 2013 11:27AM
I must admit, I'm still laughing at this one.......
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top
> 1% of the population.
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top
> 1% of the population.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 12:01PM
How It Is Wrote:
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> Someone posted about Islam being a hateful
> religion...
>
> That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains
> governmental backing and it becomes accepted to
> persecute others. Christianity has gone down the
> same road wherever and whenever it could. When
> you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull
> them into the mob mentality that religion fosters,
> they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting
> "group think" blinds them to the evils of what
> they do, because they're constantly surrounded by
> others who tell them that the moral high ground is
> theirs alone.
>
> Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to
> keep church and state separate because God offends
> them, they do it because history has consistently
> proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix.
> Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as
> a shining example that it happens in countries
> which are white, educated, and relatively
> prosperous too.
>
> I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call
> other people "evil" for believing - all that they
> ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs
> upon them, or ask for government backing. But
> pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it
> works when the question is reversed. Almost all
> of us have the potential for evil inside of us,
> but it can only be embraced without question in a
> large scale when adherents believe that they have
> God's support.
Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science" and on and on.
Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's consider the 100 million plus people in the world who have been killed under the tenents of communism and socialism. These systems reject God and religion yet kill millions of their own people, almost always to further the desires of the ruling few.
You don't know what you're spouting, which is typical of the anti-Godists.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Someone posted about Islam being a hateful
> religion...
>
> That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains
> governmental backing and it becomes accepted to
> persecute others. Christianity has gone down the
> same road wherever and whenever it could. When
> you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull
> them into the mob mentality that religion fosters,
> they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting
> "group think" blinds them to the evils of what
> they do, because they're constantly surrounded by
> others who tell them that the moral high ground is
> theirs alone.
>
> Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to
> keep church and state separate because God offends
> them, they do it because history has consistently
> proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix.
> Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as
> a shining example that it happens in countries
> which are white, educated, and relatively
> prosperous too.
>
> I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call
> other people "evil" for believing - all that they
> ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs
> upon them, or ask for government backing. But
> pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it
> works when the question is reversed. Almost all
> of us have the potential for evil inside of us,
> but it can only be embraced without question in a
> large scale when adherents believe that they have
> God's support.
Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science" and on and on.
Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's consider the 100 million plus people in the world who have been killed under the tenents of communism and socialism. These systems reject God and religion yet kill millions of their own people, almost always to further the desires of the ruling few.
You don't know what you're spouting, which is typical of the anti-Godists.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Internet Bozo
()
Date: April 07, 2013 12:33PM
An example of the compassionate atheists:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/2060337/
Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son. What a bunch of losers.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/2060337/
Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son. What a bunch of losers.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 06:01PM
This is the original LackofFaith posting.
Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians are a result of their christian beliefs.
Atheism is not about hostility towards religion. It's just the total lack of belief of the supernatural and Gods.
I believe religion is the source of many conflicts in the history of human relations.
Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the truth. Demand proof!
Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as good as it gets, because there is no afterlife. When you are dead, you are gone forever.
Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of the negative effects of religion and other myths.
Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians are a result of their christian beliefs.
Atheism is not about hostility towards religion. It's just the total lack of belief of the supernatural and Gods.
I believe religion is the source of many conflicts in the history of human relations.
Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the truth. Demand proof!
Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as good as it gets, because there is no afterlife. When you are dead, you are gone forever.
Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of the negative effects of religion and other myths.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:18PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> This is the original LackofFaith posting.
>
> Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some
> atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians
> are a result of their christian beliefs.
>
> Atheism is not about hostility towards religion.
> It's just the total lack of belief of the
> supernatural and Gods.
>
> I believe religion is the source of many conflicts
> in the history of human relations.
>
> Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the
> truth. Demand proof!
>
> Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as
> good as it gets, because there is no afterlife.
> When you are dead, you are gone forever.
>
> Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of
> the negative effects of religion and other myths.
OK, I demand that you prove there is no God. You have 1 post to do it. Go for it.
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> This is the original LackofFaith posting.
>
> Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some
> atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians
> are a result of their christian beliefs.
>
> Atheism is not about hostility towards religion.
> It's just the total lack of belief of the
> supernatural and Gods.
>
> I believe religion is the source of many conflicts
> in the history of human relations.
>
> Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the
> truth. Demand proof!
>
> Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as
> good as it gets, because there is no afterlife.
> When you are dead, you are gone forever.
>
> Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of
> the negative effects of religion and other myths.
OK, I demand that you prove there is no God. You have 1 post to do it. Go for it.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
God and Proof
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:20PM
The burden isn't on us to prove that Willy Wonka was fictional, nor that Darth Vader didn't exist in another galaxy a long long time ago.
If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll probably continue to assume that you're stupid, except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.
If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll probably continue to assume that you're stupid, except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
God and Proof
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:25PM
BTW, this doesn't mean that I'm "hateful"... generally, I'd peacefully coexist with your stupidity. It's not a Constitutional Right, but it's part of accepting diversity.
However, when you're so proud of your stupidity that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's difficult to just let it go in silence.
There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single person is going to find or lose religion based on this debate, and I actually have things other to do that are real, tangible, and productive.
However, when you're so proud of your stupidity that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's difficult to just let it go in silence.
There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single person is going to find or lose religion based on this debate, and I actually have things other to do that are real, tangible, and productive.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:28PM
God and Proof Wrote:
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> The burden isn't on us to prove that Willy Wonka
> was fictional, nor that Darth Vader didn't exist
> in another galaxy a long long time ago.
>
> If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll
> probably continue to assume that you're stupid,
> except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.
Wrong. The dude wrote, "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof. Try and keep up. You are sadly mistaken to think I care what you assume. There are multiple threads on here that have gone down this road. Read them. Logic is not on your side of the argument.
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> The burden isn't on us to prove that Willy Wonka
> was fictional, nor that Darth Vader didn't exist
> in another galaxy a long long time ago.
>
> If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll
> probably continue to assume that you're stupid,
> except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.
Wrong. The dude wrote, "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof. Try and keep up. You are sadly mistaken to think I care what you assume. There are multiple threads on here that have gone down this road. Read them. Logic is not on your side of the argument.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:30PM
God and Proof Wrote:
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> BTW, this doesn't mean that I'm "hateful"...
> generally, I'd peacefully coexist with your
> stupidity. It's not a Constitutional Right, but
> it's part of accepting diversity.
>
> However, when you're so proud of your stupidity
> that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's
> difficult to just let it go in silence.
>
> There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single
> person is going to find or lose religion based on
> this debate, and I actually have things other to
> do that are real, tangible, and productive.
Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with a superiority complex LOL.
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> BTW, this doesn't mean that I'm "hateful"...
> generally, I'd peacefully coexist with your
> stupidity. It's not a Constitutional Right, but
> it's part of accepting diversity.
>
> However, when you're so proud of your stupidity
> that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's
> difficult to just let it go in silence.
>
> There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single
> person is going to find or lose religion based on
> this debate, and I actually have things other to
> do that are real, tangible, and productive.
Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with a superiority complex LOL.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 07, 2013 07:53PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful,
> bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on.
>
> Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's
> consider the 100 million plus people in the world
> who have been killed under the tenents of
> communism and socialism. These systems reject God
> and religion yet kill millions of their own
> people, almost always to further the desires of
> the ruling few.
>
> You don't know what you're spouting, which is
> typical of the anti-Godists.
Of the 10 bloodiest wars in the history of humanity, only one had a semi-religious component. That one was World War II.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful,
> bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on.
>
> Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's
> consider the 100 million plus people in the world
> who have been killed under the tenents of
> communism and socialism. These systems reject God
> and religion yet kill millions of their own
> people, almost always to further the desires of
> the ruling few.
>
> You don't know what you're spouting, which is
> typical of the anti-Godists.
Of the 10 bloodiest wars in the history of humanity, only one had a semi-religious component. That one was World War II.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
muslims
()
Date: April 07, 2013 08:08PM
hypocrites
Attachments:
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
dark matter
()
Date: April 07, 2013 08:10PM
Watch all of this guy's videos
http://www.youtube.com/darkmatter2525
http://www.youtube.com/darkmatter2525
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 08:20PM
The burden of proof is on the believers and evangelists.
There no proof for nothing. You can only prove something if it exists.
Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of Gods past, present and future.
The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know that there have been many God myths in the past.
What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian Gods?
I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and go, but truth prevails.
It's all a myth and we all know how myths are started. In the end though, myths die once they are recognized for what they are. A myth is not the truth.
There no proof for nothing. You can only prove something if it exists.
Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of Gods past, present and future.
The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know that there have been many God myths in the past.
What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian Gods?
I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and go, but truth prevails.
It's all a myth and we all know how myths are started. In the end though, myths die once they are recognized for what they are. A myth is not the truth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 08:34PM
A myth may make you feel good and give you some comfort. A myth may be more pleasant than the truth, but in the end, the truth prevails.
Isn't it better to understand that truth, than to hide in a myth.
We all know it's a myth. Face it, there is no God. There is no afterlife. When you are gone, you are gone for good.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Isn't it better to understand that truth, than to hide in a myth.
We all know it's a myth. Face it, there is no God. There is no afterlife. When you are gone, you are gone for good.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 07, 2013 09:19PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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>
> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on
And christians call muslims "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".
Both groups act very ignorant.
> > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
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>
> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on
And christians call muslims "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".
Both groups act very ignorant.
> > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
I Remember...
()
Date: April 07, 2013 10:59PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with
> a superiority complex LOL.
At the time, that's exactly what I thought about the kid who told me that there was no Santa.
I stayed up late that year, to see what happened. My Father ate the cookies, drank the milk, and left gifts with Santa's name.
Now I realize that even though Santa didn't come, that didn't prove that he didn't exist. Perhaps he just knew about my lapse of faith, and took me off his list.
Thank you Dad... For many years, I thought you had deceived me, but now I realize that you might have just been trying to ease the pain of my abandonment.
----------------------------------------------
> Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with
> a superiority complex LOL.
At the time, that's exactly what I thought about the kid who told me that there was no Santa.
I stayed up late that year, to see what happened. My Father ate the cookies, drank the milk, and left gifts with Santa's name.
Now I realize that even though Santa didn't come, that didn't prove that he didn't exist. Perhaps he just knew about my lapse of faith, and took me off his list.
Thank you Dad... For many years, I thought you had deceived me, but now I realize that you might have just been trying to ease the pain of my abandonment.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 07, 2013 11:51PM
People, I'm here to plant the seed for you to grow into skeptics about anything that lacks proof. Faith is for the hopeless. Religious activities are a waste of resources.
Everyone should seek the truth. Dismiss the pretenders.
You know it's a myth. Enjoy like, because once it's over, you are done.
Everyone should seek the truth. Dismiss the pretenders.
You know it's a myth. Enjoy like, because once it's over, you are done.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
A Question.
()
Date: April 07, 2013 11:59PM
Does anyone really become an Atheist past the age of 20 or so?
Falling out of faith because of a tragedy or something, sure... that's the whole "angry at God" dynamic, and I always assume those people will be "born again" at a later age when they're faced with their own mortality.
But if you get through your 20's, and nothing has really struck you as wrong with regard to believing something just because a bunch of people told you it was so (God, Allah, whatever - the particular one is likely to be related to your geography), then what are the chances of just waking up one day and saying "hey, this really doesn't make sense"?
Seriously, does this really happen?
Falling out of faith because of a tragedy or something, sure... that's the whole "angry at God" dynamic, and I always assume those people will be "born again" at a later age when they're faced with their own mortality.
But if you get through your 20's, and nothing has really struck you as wrong with regard to believing something just because a bunch of people told you it was so (God, Allah, whatever - the particular one is likely to be related to your geography), then what are the chances of just waking up one day and saying "hey, this really doesn't make sense"?
Seriously, does this really happen?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
bonehead
()
Date: April 08, 2013 01:37AM
It doesn't happen if you are a member of the sheeple.
Sheeple will believe anything told to them by authority.
You have to have the intellect to question something generally accepted.
Sheeple don't have that intellect.
Sheeple will believe anything told to them by authority.
You have to have the intellect to question something generally accepted.
Sheeple don't have that intellect.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
God's Wrath
()
Date: April 08, 2013 04:48AM
Internet Bozo Wrote:
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> An example of the compassionate atheists:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/
> 07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/20603
> 37/
>
>
> Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son.
> What a bunch of losers.
God has finally punished Rick Warren for all of his deceptive hatemongering. I pray that Warren changes his ways and appeases the Lord for taking his son's life from him.
-------------------------------------------------------
> An example of the compassionate atheists:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/
> 07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/20603
> 37/
>
>
> Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son.
> What a bunch of losers.
God has finally punished Rick Warren for all of his deceptive hatemongering. I pray that Warren changes his ways and appeases the Lord for taking his son's life from him.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 05:03AM
I don't think anybody has to worry about punishment from an imaginary God.
It’s fun to have imaginary friends. You can think whatever you want about them and they can't do anything to you.
Everybody knows it's a myth. Demand proof and seek the truth.
It’s fun to have imaginary friends. You can think whatever you want about them and they can't do anything to you.
Everybody knows it's a myth. Demand proof and seek the truth.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 03:59PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The burden of proof is on the believers and
> evangelists.
>
> There no proof for nothing. You can only prove
> something if it exists.
>
> Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of
> Gods past, present and future.
>
> The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know
> that there have been many God myths in the past.
>
> What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to
> the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian
> Gods?
>
> I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the
> same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and
> go, but truth prevails.
>
> It's all a myth and we all know how myths are
> started. In the end though, myths die once they
> are recognized for what they are. A myth is not
> the truth.
You whine about demanding proof, yet offer none to support your assertion that there is no God. You flap your gums, make noise, but, in the end, make no sense.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The burden of proof is on the believers and
> evangelists.
>
> There no proof for nothing. You can only prove
> something if it exists.
>
> Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of
> Gods past, present and future.
>
> The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know
> that there have been many God myths in the past.
>
> What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to
> the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian
> Gods?
>
> I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the
> same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and
> go, but truth prevails.
>
> It's all a myth and we all know how myths are
> started. In the end though, myths die once they
> are recognized for what they are. A myth is not
> the truth.
You whine about demanding proof, yet offer none to support your assertion that there is no God. You flap your gums, make noise, but, in the end, make no sense.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 04:02PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid,
> > backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> > and on and on
>
> And christians call muslims "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".
>
> Both groups act very ignorant.
>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.
Wrong again Meeps. You atheists call Muslims those things as well. Not to their faces or publically of course as your scared (for good reason) they'll make you pay. The brush you paint with is way too broad and you're using it to paint the wrong group. I expect nothing less from you. You haven't been right about Christianity yet.
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid,
> > backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> > and on and on
>
> And christians call muslims "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".
>
> Both groups act very ignorant.
>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.
Wrong again Meeps. You atheists call Muslims those things as well. Not to their faces or publically of course as your scared (for good reason) they'll make you pay. The brush you paint with is way too broad and you're using it to paint the wrong group. I expect nothing less from you. You haven't been right about Christianity yet.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 04:07PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.
Of course. I'm not the one who screeched "Demand proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not only does he not see the illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God). The illogic of the anti-Godists continues unabated here, as it has for over 2 years. At best, we can agree to disagree. There is no proof that God does not exist. Nothing the Bible has ever been disproven. Kind of remarkable considering it was written thousands of years ago.
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.
Of course. I'm not the one who screeched "Demand proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not only does he not see the illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God). The illogic of the anti-Godists continues unabated here, as it has for over 2 years. At best, we can agree to disagree. There is no proof that God does not exist. Nothing the Bible has ever been disproven. Kind of remarkable considering it was written thousands of years ago.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 08, 2013 04:33PM
> There is no proof that God does not exist.
There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite number of absurd or false things that can't be proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless argument to say that your idea can't be proven not to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.
There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite number of absurd or false things that can't be proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless argument to say that your idea can't be proven not to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 04:37PM
Take a course in the history of religion. You will find that the bible is merely a collection of myths, legends and stories, some borrowed from other faiths and cultures, revised, edited and assembled into the holy book. The bible was written by men. It was written by men with less understanding of the universe than high school students today.
Do you notice how all the God type events happened at a time when there was no video tape or digital cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type of indications of aliens performing anal probes.
You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have learned that in high school. The burden of proof is on those that claim something exists. It's well acknowledged that there is no proof of God and that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't equal to proof.
For many, these simple concepts are difficult to understand. There have been many scientific investigations of religious claims and they always fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being to include the existence of a human soul that leaves the body upon death.
It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and listens to your prayers.
Do you notice how all the God type events happened at a time when there was no video tape or digital cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type of indications of aliens performing anal probes.
You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have learned that in high school. The burden of proof is on those that claim something exists. It's well acknowledged that there is no proof of God and that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't equal to proof.
For many, these simple concepts are difficult to understand. There have been many scientific investigations of religious claims and they always fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being to include the existence of a human soul that leaves the body upon death.
It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and listens to your prayers.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 05:35PM
> > Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> only does he not see the illogic in his argument
> of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide
> proof for his own faith (no God).
Hahahahahahahahha.
Dude, you are beyond help.
"...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith,..."
The only thing illogical is someone not demanding proof of some claim that can be characterized as "supernatural."
"...but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God)."
Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and there is not proof that they exist. They are figments of people's imagination. There are many imposters and references, but they do not exist.
> --------------------------------------------------
> I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> only does he not see the illogic in his argument
> of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide
> proof for his own faith (no God).
Hahahahahahahahha.
Dude, you are beyond help.
"...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith,..."
The only thing illogical is someone not demanding proof of some claim that can be characterized as "supernatural."
"...but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God)."
Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and there is not proof that they exist. They are figments of people's imagination. There are many imposters and references, but they do not exist.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: April 08, 2013 05:37PM
If something is "well known to be", "known by everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you pressing your ideas on other people?
You seem to be struggling on a local forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope that he's wrong?
You seem to be struggling on a local forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope that he's wrong?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 05:58PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?
I think it's well known that there isn't proof of existence. It's those that try to press there ideas that something exist, that loves you and will punish you if you don't believe that are the offending party. Those that deny the claims without proof are merely utilizing their critical minds and powers of analysis. If you choose to believe in the myth, it's interesting how you choose that particular myth out of all the myths that have existed. What about the myths of the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians? Did they fall out of favor? I'm merely rejecting the ideas being pressed on me and others like me.
If the Pope, present or past, was a moral leader, along with his subordinates, he would do something about the pedophilia rampant in the Catholic Church. If there was a real God, do you think he would tolerate the leadership of the Catholic Church and there acts against children? If the Pope has the power and authority to act and he fails to act, then he is just as culpable as the transgressor.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?
I think it's well known that there isn't proof of existence. It's those that try to press there ideas that something exist, that loves you and will punish you if you don't believe that are the offending party. Those that deny the claims without proof are merely utilizing their critical minds and powers of analysis. If you choose to believe in the myth, it's interesting how you choose that particular myth out of all the myths that have existed. What about the myths of the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians? Did they fall out of favor? I'm merely rejecting the ideas being pressed on me and others like me.
If the Pope, present or past, was a moral leader, along with his subordinates, he would do something about the pedophilia rampant in the Catholic Church. If there was a real God, do you think he would tolerate the leadership of the Catholic Church and there acts against children? If the Pope has the power and authority to act and he fails to act, then he is just as culpable as the transgressor.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Ewak
()
Date: April 08, 2013 06:14PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?
Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?
Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 06:53PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > > Trooth. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> > proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> > only does he not see the illogic in his
> argument
> > of demanding proof for faith, but he can't
> provide
> > proof for his own faith (no God).
>
> Hahahahahahahahha.
>
> Dude, you are beyond help.
>
> "...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for
> faith,..."
>
> The only thing illogical is someone not demanding
> proof of some claim that can be characterized as
> "supernatural."
>
> "...but he can't provide proof for his own faith
> (no God)."
>
> Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove
> you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter
> Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and
> there is not proof that they exist. They are
> figments of people's imagination. There are many
> imposters and references, but they do not exist.
No one is asking you to prove what you believe. What you're being asked to prove is that what you believe is the truth or is a fact. Your inability to string together any kind of logical thought on this subject should convince everyone here (including you) on the weakness of your argument. You are really quite emotional about this. Another sign of the weakness of your argument.
Here's a scientific proof that your argument is flawed: something can not come from nothing.
Here's another scientific proof that your argument is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been shown to move towards order, only disorder (not withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't support evolution or the 5 billion year old universe, throwing out over 100 years of scientific observation and accepted truth for crackpot theories).
You are typical of modern junk scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes about it. And you expect to be taken seriously. LOL
-------------------------------------------------------
> > > Trooth. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> > proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> > only does he not see the illogic in his
> argument
> > of demanding proof for faith, but he can't
> provide
> > proof for his own faith (no God).
>
> Hahahahahahahahha.
>
> Dude, you are beyond help.
>
> "...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for
> faith,..."
>
> The only thing illogical is someone not demanding
> proof of some claim that can be characterized as
> "supernatural."
>
> "...but he can't provide proof for his own faith
> (no God)."
>
> Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove
> you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter
> Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and
> there is not proof that they exist. They are
> figments of people's imagination. There are many
> imposters and references, but they do not exist.
No one is asking you to prove what you believe. What you're being asked to prove is that what you believe is the truth or is a fact. Your inability to string together any kind of logical thought on this subject should convince everyone here (including you) on the weakness of your argument. You are really quite emotional about this. Another sign of the weakness of your argument.
Here's a scientific proof that your argument is flawed: something can not come from nothing.
Here's another scientific proof that your argument is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been shown to move towards order, only disorder (not withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't support evolution or the 5 billion year old universe, throwing out over 100 years of scientific observation and accepted truth for crackpot theories).
You are typical of modern junk scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes about it. And you expect to be taken seriously. LOL
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 06:55PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > There is no proof that God does not exist.
>
> There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And
> there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster
> doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite
> number of absurd or false things that can't be
> proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an
> airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the
> planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless
> argument to say that your idea can't be proven not
> to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.
Your inability to grasp the simple concept that I wasn't the one who made the challenge to "prove it" explains much Meeps. Until you can demonstrate that you can grasp that simple concept, I'm done with you.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > There is no proof that God does not exist.
>
> There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And
> there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster
> doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite
> number of absurd or false things that can't be
> proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an
> airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the
> planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless
> argument to say that your idea can't be proven not
> to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.
Your inability to grasp the simple concept that I wasn't the one who made the challenge to "prove it" explains much Meeps. Until you can demonstrate that you can grasp that simple concept, I'm done with you.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 06:59PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Take a course in the history of religion. You will
> find that the bible is merely a collection of
> myths, legends and stories, some borrowed from
> other faiths and cultures, revised, edited and
> assembled into the holy book. The bible was
> written by men. It was written by men with less
> understanding of the universe than high school
> students today.
>
> Do you notice how all the God type events happened
> at a time when there was no video tape or digital
> cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the
> existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type
> of indications of aliens performing anal probes.
>
> You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have
> learned that in high school. The burden of proof
> is on those that claim something exists. It's well
> acknowledged that there is no proof of God and
> that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't
> equal to proof.
>
> For many, these simple concepts are difficult to
> understand. There have been many scientific
> investigations of religious claims and they always
> fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being
> to include the existence of a human soul that
> leaves the body upon death.
>
> It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because
> there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and
> listens to your prayers.
If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there must be something in there that can be proven wrong with all the scientific instruments and knowledge we can bring to bear.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Take a course in the history of religion. You will
> find that the bible is merely a collection of
> myths, legends and stories, some borrowed from
> other faiths and cultures, revised, edited and
> assembled into the holy book. The bible was
> written by men. It was written by men with less
> understanding of the universe than high school
> students today.
>
> Do you notice how all the God type events happened
> at a time when there was no video tape or digital
> cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the
> existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type
> of indications of aliens performing anal probes.
>
> You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have
> learned that in high school. The burden of proof
> is on those that claim something exists. It's well
> acknowledged that there is no proof of God and
> that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't
> equal to proof.
>
> For many, these simple concepts are difficult to
> understand. There have been many scientific
> investigations of religious claims and they always
> fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being
> to include the existence of a human soul that
> leaves the body upon death.
>
> It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because
> there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and
> listens to your prayers.
If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there must be something in there that can be proven wrong with all the scientific instruments and knowledge we can bring to bear.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 07:37PM
Trooth. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your
> opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there
> must be something in there that can be proven
> wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> knowledge we can bring to bear.
Are you for real?
http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.htm
The list could go on and on. The bible was written by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders before most people could read or write.
High school students have a better understanding of the environment, earth, solar system and universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.
From what I've observed, the bible is more useful for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards non-believers rather than reading for truth about the world we live in.
Do some research on the topic of how the bible was written, where the various myths originated, the people who wrote the bible, and the bible books, chapters, and verses that the early conventions of religious leaders decided to not include in the "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths, legends and popular stories passed down through the generations, to illustrate the morals of the time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is not. The book is very dated. It contains some common sense that would be necessary for a group of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to explain the origin of the bible and the need for a bible in the early times before society was more fully developed.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your
> opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there
> must be something in there that can be proven
> wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> knowledge we can bring to bear.
Are you for real?
http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.htm
The list could go on and on. The bible was written by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders before most people could read or write.
High school students have a better understanding of the environment, earth, solar system and universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.
From what I've observed, the bible is more useful for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards non-believers rather than reading for truth about the world we live in.
Do some research on the topic of how the bible was written, where the various myths originated, the people who wrote the bible, and the bible books, chapters, and verses that the early conventions of religious leaders decided to not include in the "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths, legends and popular stories passed down through the generations, to illustrate the morals of the time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is not. The book is very dated. It contains some common sense that would be necessary for a group of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to explain the origin of the bible and the need for a bible in the early times before society was more fully developed.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 08, 2013 07:55PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> > that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not
> your
> > opinion. Surely, after thousands of years,
> there
> > must be something in there that can be proven
> > wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> > knowledge we can bring to bear.
>
> Are you for real?
>
> http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.ht
> m
>
> The list could go on and on. The bible was written
> by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders
> before most people could read or write.
>
> High school students have a better understanding
> of the environment, earth, solar system and
> universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.
>
> From what I've observed, the bible is more useful
> for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards
> non-believers rather than reading for truth about
> the world we live in.
>
> Do some research on the topic of how the bible was
> written, where the various myths originated, the
> people who wrote the bible, and the bible books,
> chapters, and verses that the early conventions of
> religious leaders decided to not include in the
> "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths,
> legends and popular stories passed down through
> the generations, to illustrate the morals of the
> time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is
> not. The book is very dated. It contains some
> common sense that would be necessary for a group
> of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't
> covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good
> for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex
> for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to
> explain the origin of the bible and the need for a
> bible in the early times before society was more
> fully developed.
Here's some more research for ya lackoffaith:
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
I'm sure I can counter every theoretical web site you find with one or two that provide a different theory (here's another: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/275993.aspx).
Again, your site offers no proof. It states problems that it can not solve nor prove or disprove. Dinosaurs on the ark? Really? You expect that to be taken seriously? Try harder.
This is the problem with the anti-Godistas. The Bible says God made it happen. Your side can't explain how it happened, but says with the rhetoric of a zealot that however it happened, it wasn't because of God. You rant about the close-minded belivers while practicing the same religious fevor.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> > that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not
> your
> > opinion. Surely, after thousands of years,
> there
> > must be something in there that can be proven
> > wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> > knowledge we can bring to bear.
>
> Are you for real?
>
> http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.ht
> m
>
> The list could go on and on. The bible was written
> by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders
> before most people could read or write.
>
> High school students have a better understanding
> of the environment, earth, solar system and
> universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.
>
> From what I've observed, the bible is more useful
> for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards
> non-believers rather than reading for truth about
> the world we live in.
>
> Do some research on the topic of how the bible was
> written, where the various myths originated, the
> people who wrote the bible, and the bible books,
> chapters, and verses that the early conventions of
> religious leaders decided to not include in the
> "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths,
> legends and popular stories passed down through
> the generations, to illustrate the morals of the
> time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is
> not. The book is very dated. It contains some
> common sense that would be necessary for a group
> of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't
> covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good
> for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex
> for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to
> explain the origin of the bible and the need for a
> bible in the early times before society was more
> fully developed.
Here's some more research for ya lackoffaith:
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
I'm sure I can counter every theoretical web site you find with one or two that provide a different theory (here's another: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/275993.aspx).
Again, your site offers no proof. It states problems that it can not solve nor prove or disprove. Dinosaurs on the ark? Really? You expect that to be taken seriously? Try harder.
This is the problem with the anti-Godistas. The Bible says God made it happen. Your side can't explain how it happened, but says with the rhetoric of a zealot that however it happened, it wasn't because of God. You rant about the close-minded belivers while practicing the same religious fevor.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 08:08PM
Trooth. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> flawed: something can not come from nothing.
>
> Here's another scientific proof that your argument
> is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite
> the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> scientific observation and accepted truth for
> crackpot theories).
>
> You are typical of modern junk
> scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand
> more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know
> or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
> LOL
I think you should take some science, physics and chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting your "defend the bible" talking points from too many televangelist. You have very little understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have you ever taken a course at the college level on the subject?
You may not be aware of the fact that matter is mostly space with very little material. Consider the volume of the solar system and the volume of the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There is a similar relationship between the volume of an atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and electrons. Also, these components of the atom are made of smaller parts that have even less substance. If you were able to condense the matter that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the space, the remaining volume would defy comprehension. It would be essentially nothing; the same nothing that the scientists indicate began the universe. The reality is actually stranger than the over simplified version I just indicated.
I find it entertaining to read the defenses you have posted. You are not well prepared to debate anyone.
The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> flawed: something can not come from nothing.
>
> Here's another scientific proof that your argument
> is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite
> the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> scientific observation and accepted truth for
> crackpot theories).
>
> You are typical of modern junk
> scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand
> more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know
> or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
> LOL
I think you should take some science, physics and chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting your "defend the bible" talking points from too many televangelist. You have very little understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have you ever taken a course at the college level on the subject?
You may not be aware of the fact that matter is mostly space with very little material. Consider the volume of the solar system and the volume of the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There is a similar relationship between the volume of an atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and electrons. Also, these components of the atom are made of smaller parts that have even less substance. If you were able to condense the matter that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the space, the remaining volume would defy comprehension. It would be essentially nothing; the same nothing that the scientists indicate began the universe. The reality is actually stranger than the over simplified version I just indicated.
I find it entertaining to read the defenses you have posted. You are not well prepared to debate anyone.
The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: April 08, 2013 08:18PM
Well then that settles it for me- there IS a God!
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 08:25PM
It's good that the sheeple believe because they are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof; all they need is for someone in authority to tell them it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and their percentage of the total population to get his socialist agenda through. It's not just the mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama loves you too.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Gregg
()
Date: April 08, 2013 11:12PM
Modern education basically draws people away from scripture. I remember getting schooled in science and things like literature, it presents a tremendous pressure on our faith and is ultimately an empty promise. It's a necessary evil that encourages young, easily manipulated kids to stray from righteousness that "natural law" has ignored for thousands of years. They'll all be sorry some day when they meet their maker and realize the only textbook you'll ever need is the Gospel. Everything is right there, teaching you the good life and how you should live. And it's free to anyone who will accept Jesus into their heart. The only tuition is forgiveness.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 08, 2013 11:36PM
Gregg Wrote:
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> Modern education basically draws people away from
> scripture. I remember getting schooled in science
> and things like literature, it presents a
> tremendous pressure on our faith and is ultimately
> an empty promise. It's a necessary evil that
> encourages young, easily manipulated kids to stray
> from righteousness that "natural law" has ignored
> for thousands of years. They'll all be sorry some
> day when they meet their maker and realize the
> only textbook you'll ever need is the Gospel.
> Everything is right there, teaching you the good
> life and how you should live. And it's free to
> anyone who will accept Jesus into their heart.
> The only tuition is forgiveness.
Don't forget the biggest lie of them all: homosexuality is normal.
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> Modern education basically draws people away from
> scripture. I remember getting schooled in science
> and things like literature, it presents a
> tremendous pressure on our faith and is ultimately
> an empty promise. It's a necessary evil that
> encourages young, easily manipulated kids to stray
> from righteousness that "natural law" has ignored
> for thousands of years. They'll all be sorry some
> day when they meet their maker and realize the
> only textbook you'll ever need is the Gospel.
> Everything is right there, teaching you the good
> life and how you should live. And it's free to
> anyone who will accept Jesus into their heart.
> The only tuition is forgiveness.
Don't forget the biggest lie of them all: homosexuality is normal.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 08, 2013 11:59PM
You don't need the bible to know that homosexuality is a defect. In fact, I believe it's a major strategic failure to base opposition to same sex marriage on a biblical argument alone, because the religious argument is flawed. Some cultures past and present have accepted homosexual behavior as well as pedophilia. The interesting thing about homosexuality is that it has defied the law of natural selection and survival of the fittest. It's an aberration of nature and likely a birth defect caused in the developmental stage in the womb. I don't think that homosexual behavior should be normalized, but should be treated like any other perverted sexual attraction. I believe medical science will eventually find the cause and a remedy. Until then gays should be tolerated as any other members of society with birth defects.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 12:25AM
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Glory Be To God
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Date: April 09, 2013 01:01AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.
We do not debate, we indoctrinate.
If I proved that God exists, then it would erase the need for Faith. God buried Dinosaur bones as a test of our Faith. If you depend on reason and evidence, you are damned.
How dare you question that which cannot withstand questioning? Burn in Hell, you sinner!
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> You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.
We do not debate, we indoctrinate.
If I proved that God exists, then it would erase the need for Faith. God buried Dinosaur bones as a test of our Faith. If you depend on reason and evidence, you are damned.
How dare you question that which cannot withstand questioning? Burn in Hell, you sinner!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Glory Be To God
()
Date: April 09, 2013 01:12AM
This is what happens when you question. God depends on on not questioning, and we depend on God. Do not mess with the order of the universe.
I know it must be this way because someone told me so. When I asked him "why", he got really frightened. Surely, that's all the proof I needed.
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I know it must be this way because someone told me so. When I asked him "why", he got really frightened. Surely, that's all the proof I needed.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 01:12AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof; all
> they need is for someone in authority to tell them
> it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and their
> percentage of the total population to get his
> socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> loves you too.
Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.
For example, among other things, stoning women to death for adultery or not being a virgin on their wedding night.
What the Bible says about stoning:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html
Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must take it as you find it.
The good news is that the bible is a collection of myths.
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> It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof; all
> they need is for someone in authority to tell them
> it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and their
> percentage of the total population to get his
> socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> loves you too.
Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.
For example, among other things, stoning women to death for adultery or not being a virgin on their wedding night.
What the Bible says about stoning:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html
Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must take it as you find it.
The good news is that the bible is a collection of myths.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Just Stop!
()
Date: April 09, 2013 01:15AM
The Dinosaurs questioned... that's why they never existed.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 09, 2013 01:27AM
That's a great post. It reminds me that we all have free will and individual ability to rise to our highest level of competence. Unfortunately, all individuals were not born with the same level of personal ability and potential.
The sheeple are content to believe what they are told to believe. That's what makes them sheeple.
The sheeple are content to believe what they are told to believe. That's what makes them sheeple.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 06:34AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> > are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof;
> all
> > they need is for someone in authority to tell
> them
> > it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and
> their
> > percentage of the total population to get his
> > socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> > mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> > loves you too.
>
> Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.
>
> For example, among other things, stoning women to
> death for adultery or not being a virgin on their
> wedding night.
>
> What the Bible says about stoning:
>
> http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoni
> ng.html
>
> Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand
> of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like
> and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must
> take it as you find it.
>
> The good news is that the bible is a collection of
> myths.
Read the New Testament. Jesus is quite clear on stoning. Sorry, another fail.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> > are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof;
> all
> > they need is for someone in authority to tell
> them
> > it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and
> their
> > percentage of the total population to get his
> > socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> > mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> > loves you too.
>
> Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.
>
> For example, among other things, stoning women to
> death for adultery or not being a virgin on their
> wedding night.
>
> What the Bible says about stoning:
>
> http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoni
> ng.html
>
> Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand
> of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like
> and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must
> take it as you find it.
>
> The good news is that the bible is a collection of
> myths.
Read the New Testament. Jesus is quite clear on stoning. Sorry, another fail.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 06:40AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> > flawed: something can not come from nothing.
> >
> > Here's another scientific proof that your
> argument
> > is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> > shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> > withstanding modern science now trying to
> rewrite
> > the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> > support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> > universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> > scientific observation and accepted truth for
> > crackpot theories).
> >
> > You are typical of modern junk
> > scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or
> understand
> > more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to
> know
> > or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> > about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
>
> > LOL
>
> I think you should take some science, physics and
> chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I
> don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second
> law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting
> your "defend the bible" talking points from too
> many televangelist. You have very little
> understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have
> you ever taken a course at the college level on
> the subject?
>
> You may not be aware of the fact that matter is
> mostly space with very little material. Consider
> the volume of the solar system and the volume of
> the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There
> is a similar relationship between the volume of an
> atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and
> electrons. Also, these components of the atom are
> made of smaller parts that have even less
> substance. If you were able to condense the matter
> that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the
> space, the remaining volume would defy
> comprehension. It would be essentially nothing;
> the same nothing that the scientists indicate
> began the universe. The reality is actually
> stranger than the over simplified version I just
> indicated.
>
> I find it entertaining to read the defenses you
> have posted. You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.
>
> The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows
> God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy
> life, because this is as good as it gets.
And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the stuff that made the universe. LOL
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> > flawed: something can not come from nothing.
> >
> > Here's another scientific proof that your
> argument
> > is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> > shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> > withstanding modern science now trying to
> rewrite
> > the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> > support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> > universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> > scientific observation and accepted truth for
> > crackpot theories).
> >
> > You are typical of modern junk
> > scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or
> understand
> > more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to
> know
> > or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> > about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
>
> > LOL
>
> I think you should take some science, physics and
> chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I
> don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second
> law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting
> your "defend the bible" talking points from too
> many televangelist. You have very little
> understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have
> you ever taken a course at the college level on
> the subject?
>
> You may not be aware of the fact that matter is
> mostly space with very little material. Consider
> the volume of the solar system and the volume of
> the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There
> is a similar relationship between the volume of an
> atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and
> electrons. Also, these components of the atom are
> made of smaller parts that have even less
> substance. If you were able to condense the matter
> that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the
> space, the remaining volume would defy
> comprehension. It would be essentially nothing;
> the same nothing that the scientists indicate
> began the universe. The reality is actually
> stranger than the over simplified version I just
> indicated.
>
> I find it entertaining to read the defenses you
> have posted. You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.
>
> The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows
> God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy
> life, because this is as good as it gets.
And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the stuff that made the universe. LOL
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:07AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the
> stuff that made the universe. LOL
It's well established dude. Check it out on the internet. You've got to have some physics education to relate and know what to search for.
You God squaders need to expand your mental horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof. Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You are not going to face punishment after death. When you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. Everyone knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a myth. Just like all the other God myths of the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.
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> And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the
> stuff that made the universe. LOL
It's well established dude. Check it out on the internet. You've got to have some physics education to relate and know what to search for.
You God squaders need to expand your mental horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof. Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You are not going to face punishment after death. When you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. Everyone knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a myth. Just like all the other God myths of the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
-666-
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:12AM
Yes God squaders, listen to the man. He says it better than I do and I'm one of the best.
See you in Hell! I can't wait to get all of you FFUers down to my place.
See you in Hell! I can't wait to get all of you FFUers down to my place.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Alias
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:23AM
The Sun is rising.
Wake up, my fellow citizens of the Earth.
Praise the painted sky and bow your head.
Enjoy the fruits of the vines.
Thank not a false god, a heathen in disguise; thank your government and bow your head lower.
Wake up, my fellow citizens of the Earth.
Praise the painted sky and bow your head.
Enjoy the fruits of the vines.
Thank not a false god, a heathen in disguise; thank your government and bow your head lower.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:23AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like
> the
> > stuff that made the universe. LOL
>
> It's well established dude. Check it out on the
> internet. You've got to have some physics
> education to relate and know what to search for.
>
> You God squaders need to expand your mental
> horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof.
> Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You
> are not going to face punishment after death. When
> you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life,
> because this is as good as it gets. Everyone
> knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a
> myth. Just like all the other God myths of the
> Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.
Well established theory perhaps (though probably not even that), but not anywhere near proof/fact/truth. You accept all of this scientific theory without proof, yet chide others who don't. Your own actions undermine your argument.
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like
> the
> > stuff that made the universe. LOL
>
> It's well established dude. Check it out on the
> internet. You've got to have some physics
> education to relate and know what to search for.
>
> You God squaders need to expand your mental
> horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof.
> Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You
> are not going to face punishment after death. When
> you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life,
> because this is as good as it gets. Everyone
> knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a
> myth. Just like all the other God myths of the
> Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.
Well established theory perhaps (though probably not even that), but not anywhere near proof/fact/truth. You accept all of this scientific theory without proof, yet chide others who don't. Your own actions undermine your argument.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:42AM
Dude, have you ever taken a physics course? I think not.
God squaders aren't known for taking the hard sciences.
I think it very well established and settled science. Check it out for yourself.
And, I don't think you understand the word "theory" as used in science.
Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a fact dude.
It's interesting that God squaders accept myths based on "I told you so," but reject science based on verified proof.
There is no God, because the God myth was invented by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who liked to take their stuff with them.
Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone can see for themselves that God squaders don't know much about anything except what they were told about the bible.
God squaders aren't known for taking the hard sciences.
I think it very well established and settled science. Check it out for yourself.
And, I don't think you understand the word "theory" as used in science.
Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a fact dude.
It's interesting that God squaders accept myths based on "I told you so," but reject science based on verified proof.
There is no God, because the God myth was invented by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who liked to take their stuff with them.
Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone can see for themselves that God squaders don't know much about anything except what they were told about the bible.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:46AM
I think trooth is a young earth creationist. He's got the limited mentality for it.
Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to know in one nice package.
I particularly like that part about stoning the women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.
Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to know in one nice package.
I particularly like that part about stoning the women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:52AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Dude, have you ever taken a physics course? I
> think not.
>
> God squaders aren't known for taking the hard
> sciences.
>
> I think it very well established and settled
> science. Check it out for yourself.
>
> And, I don't think you understand the word
> "theory" as used in science.
>
> Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a
> fact dude.
>
> It's interesting that God squaders accept myths
> based on "I told you so," but reject science based
> on verified proof.
>
> There is no God, because the God myth was invented
> by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I
> think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who
> liked to take their stuff with them.
>
> Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone
> can see for themselves that God squaders don't
> know much about anything except what they were
> told about the bible.
The fact that you think we have verfied proof is laughable. If our journey of knowledge about the universe were a mile long, we've traveled about a foot in that journey. Your personal knowledge in that journey would equal 1/100 of that foot (and that's being extremely generous to you). And yet, you spout theories and your opinion as if they're fact that must be accepted. And, per usual with your ilk, you don't see how ridiculous that is. Talk about faith.
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> Dude, have you ever taken a physics course? I
> think not.
>
> God squaders aren't known for taking the hard
> sciences.
>
> I think it very well established and settled
> science. Check it out for yourself.
>
> And, I don't think you understand the word
> "theory" as used in science.
>
> Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a
> fact dude.
>
> It's interesting that God squaders accept myths
> based on "I told you so," but reject science based
> on verified proof.
>
> There is no God, because the God myth was invented
> by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I
> think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who
> liked to take their stuff with them.
>
> Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone
> can see for themselves that God squaders don't
> know much about anything except what they were
> told about the bible.
The fact that you think we have verfied proof is laughable. If our journey of knowledge about the universe were a mile long, we've traveled about a foot in that journey. Your personal knowledge in that journey would equal 1/100 of that foot (and that's being extremely generous to you). And yet, you spout theories and your opinion as if they're fact that must be accepted. And, per usual with your ilk, you don't see how ridiculous that is. Talk about faith.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:55AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I think trooth is a young earth creationist. He's
> got the limited mentality for it.
>
> Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to
> know in one nice package.
>
> I particularly like that part about stoning the
> women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.
You see what you want to see (as if we didn't already know that). I have never stated how old I think the earth is in this thread. I have stated my opinion on this subject in other threads here, so, if you want to know it, use Search.
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> I think trooth is a young earth creationist. He's
> got the limited mentality for it.
>
> Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to
> know in one nice package.
>
> I particularly like that part about stoning the
> women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.
You see what you want to see (as if we didn't already know that). I have never stated how old I think the earth is in this thread. I have stated my opinion on this subject in other threads here, so, if you want to know it, use Search.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 08:16AM
I'm a sad boy; a lonely, skinny ass boy, with a tongue ring and a tattoo of Roman Polanski on my penis.
I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.
A missionary's work is not fun.
They say I'm boring.
I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.
A missionary's work is not fun.
They say I'm boring.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Dinosaur Guy
()
Date: April 09, 2013 08:24AM
I'm the one with the dinosaur-related posts, among others.
I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the point that some Atheists can be hateful.
There are a lot of believers - of several faiths - among my friends and family. As far as I can tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and look to that as evidence/proof. I believe that it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's helped us survive as a species... we form communities, we watch the backs of those we care about and love, and it helped us survive long enough to rise to the top of the food chain.
For many, those feelings defy logical explanation, and when you're raised to connect those emotions with God, it becomes hard to even imagine them not being inter-dependent. I don't think they're bad people, or dumb people... they were just indoctrinated from birth to make that connection, just as many believers are puzzled (or deny) that "good" can exist without "God".
Please, stick to rational arguments, and skip the name-calling. It doesn't help your case.
I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the point that some Atheists can be hateful.
There are a lot of believers - of several faiths - among my friends and family. As far as I can tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and look to that as evidence/proof. I believe that it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's helped us survive as a species... we form communities, we watch the backs of those we care about and love, and it helped us survive long enough to rise to the top of the food chain.
For many, those feelings defy logical explanation, and when you're raised to connect those emotions with God, it becomes hard to even imagine them not being inter-dependent. I don't think they're bad people, or dumb people... they were just indoctrinated from birth to make that connection, just as many believers are puzzled (or deny) that "good" can exist without "God".
Please, stick to rational arguments, and skip the name-calling. It doesn't help your case.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 08:47AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I'm a sad boy; a lonely, skinny ass boy, with a
> tongue ring and a tattoo of Roman Polanski on my
> penis.
>
> I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.
>
> A missionary's work is not fun.
>
> They say I'm boring.
Wow, that didn't take too long for you to go take this thread right into the sewer. Really quite lamely too. Do you always react so irrationally when challenged? If so, science isn't for you.
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> I'm a sad boy; a lonely, skinny ass boy, with a
> tongue ring and a tattoo of Roman Polanski on my
> penis.
>
> I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.
>
> A missionary's work is not fun.
>
> They say I'm boring.
Wow, that didn't take too long for you to go take this thread right into the sewer. Really quite lamely too. Do you always react so irrationally when challenged? If so, science isn't for you.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Dinosaur Guy (still preachin')
()
Date: April 09, 2013 10:08AM
Dinosaur Guy Wrote:
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> I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting
> redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the
> point that some Atheists can be hateful.
Actually, most of us are arrogant blowhards who view ourselves as superior humans. I, though, am a humble man.
> There are a lot of believers - of several faiths -
> among my friends and family.
My cousin's daughter married a Jew (with a big nose) so I am not a bigot.
> As far as I can
> tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and
> look to that as evidence/proof.
As far as I can tell, that sentence made me sound stupid, but I'm hoping you won't notice. (LOL - I'm an atheist with a sense of humor)
> I believe that
> it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's
> helped us survive as a species... we form
> communities, we watch the backs of those we care
> about and love, and it helped us survive long
> enough to rise to the top of the food chain.
And, I thank that Fleming guy who discovered antibiotics, since, without penicillin, I would never have evolved to become the great thinker I am today. (I get sick, a lot... bad genes)
> I don't think they're bad
> people, or dumb people...
They're just simple people. That's why I and my fellow atheists devote our lives to the arduous crusade of saving their souls.
Hallelujah!
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> I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting
> redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the
> point that some Atheists can be hateful.
Actually, most of us are arrogant blowhards who view ourselves as superior humans. I, though, am a humble man.
> There are a lot of believers - of several faiths -
> among my friends and family.
My cousin's daughter married a Jew (with a big nose) so I am not a bigot.
> As far as I can
> tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and
> look to that as evidence/proof.
As far as I can tell, that sentence made me sound stupid, but I'm hoping you won't notice. (LOL - I'm an atheist with a sense of humor)
> I believe that
> it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's
> helped us survive as a species... we form
> communities, we watch the backs of those we care
> about and love, and it helped us survive long
> enough to rise to the top of the food chain.
And, I thank that Fleming guy who discovered antibiotics, since, without penicillin, I would never have evolved to become the great thinker I am today. (I get sick, a lot... bad genes)
> I don't think they're bad
> people, or dumb people...
They're just simple people. That's why I and my fellow atheists devote our lives to the arduous crusade of saving their souls.
Hallelujah!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:37AM
I've noticed that some sheeple get offended when they are reminded that they are sheeple with all the less than desirable attributes of sheeple. Like it or not, sadly, it's true.
You know you've won the debate when defeated sheeple use your username and post nonsense.
Relax people and sheeple, there is no God. Enjoy your life, because this is as good as it gets.
Seek the truth and dismiss all assertions that lack proof.
You know you've won the debate when defeated sheeple use your username and post nonsense.
Relax people and sheeple, there is no God. Enjoy your life, because this is as good as it gets.
Seek the truth and dismiss all assertions that lack proof.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 12:53PM
Think sheeple, THINK! I mean believers.
I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good, but you shouldn't go through life letting other people tell you want to believe and think.
Study the history of religions so you have an understanding of how the bible was written. Also, you will gain an appreciation of how early religions borrowed myths to establish their credibility with the people they intended to control. Yes, religion was about control of the masses.
Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no proof of the supernatural.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good, but you shouldn't go through life letting other people tell you want to believe and think.
Study the history of religions so you have an understanding of how the bible was written. Also, you will gain an appreciation of how early religions borrowed myths to establish their credibility with the people they intended to control. Yes, religion was about control of the masses.
Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no proof of the supernatural.
Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofLogic
()
Date: April 09, 2013 01:14PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Think sheeple, THINK! I mean believers.
>
> I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good,
> but you shouldn't go through life letting other
> people tell you want to believe and think.
>
> Study the history of religions so you have an
> understanding of how the bible was written. Also,
> you will gain an appreciation of how early
> religions borrowed myths to establish their
> credibility with the people they intended to
> control. Yes, religion was about control of the
> masses.
>
> Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no
> proof of the supernatural.
>
> Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Name calling and repeating yourself over and over again. Your debating tatics need work.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Think sheeple, THINK! I mean believers.
>
> I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good,
> but you shouldn't go through life letting other
> people tell you want to believe and think.
>
> Study the history of religions so you have an
> understanding of how the bible was written. Also,
> you will gain an appreciation of how early
> religions borrowed myths to establish their
> credibility with the people they intended to
> control. Yes, religion was about control of the
> masses.
>
> Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no
> proof of the supernatural.
>
> Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.
Name calling and repeating yourself over and over again. Your debating tatics need work.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Opinion.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 03:07PM
Ignoring the trolls, I've got to say "LackOfFaith" is a little misleading, anyway. It implies that you're missing something that you should have.
You really can't expect an intelligent debate on the topic, because these folks have no sound arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason need to be ignored in order to make their whole belief system work.
We could call out the impotence of a God who can't get more than 20% of the world on the same page - despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as a rationally self-supporting argument.
But if you did that, they could just point out that an all-powerful God would be above idolization from his creations, and that it would be arrogant to believe that he really cares what they think in the first place.
You really can't expect an intelligent debate on the topic, because these folks have no sound arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason need to be ignored in order to make their whole belief system work.
We could call out the impotence of a God who can't get more than 20% of the world on the same page - despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as a rationally self-supporting argument.
But if you did that, they could just point out that an all-powerful God would be above idolization from his creations, and that it would be arrogant to believe that he really cares what they think in the first place.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:18PM
Opinion. Wrote:
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> Ignoring the trolls, I've got to say "LackOfFaith"
> is a little misleading, anyway. It implies that
> you're missing something that you should have.
>
> You really can't expect an intelligent debate on
> the topic, because these folks have no sound
> arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason
> need to be ignored in order to make their whole
> belief system work.
>
> We could call out the impotence of a God who can't
> get more than 20% of the world on the same page -
> despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as
> a rationally self-supporting argument.
>
> But if you did that, they could just point out
> that an all-powerful God would be above
> idolization from his creations, and that it would
> be arrogant to believe that he really cares what
> they think in the first place.
Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of thousands of current/living scientists who believed in some form of God/creator. None of them are as smart as your though LOL
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ignoring the trolls, I've got to say "LackOfFaith"
> is a little misleading, anyway. It implies that
> you're missing something that you should have.
>
> You really can't expect an intelligent debate on
> the topic, because these folks have no sound
> arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason
> need to be ignored in order to make their whole
> belief system work.
>
> We could call out the impotence of a God who can't
> get more than 20% of the world on the same page -
> despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as
> a rationally self-supporting argument.
>
> But if you did that, they could just point out
> that an all-powerful God would be above
> idolization from his creations, and that it would
> be arrogant to believe that he really cares what
> they think in the first place.
Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of thousands of current/living scientists who believed in some form of God/creator. None of them are as smart as your though LOL
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Like It Was
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:26PM
Trooth. Wrote:
> Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of
> thousands of current/living scientists who
> believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> them are as smart as your though LOL
Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?
Half of that list was condemned by the church. To publicly "not believe" would've been a death sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.
And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at the mouth on a public forum, please:
"Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
> Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of
> thousands of current/living scientists who
> believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> them are as smart as your though LOL
Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?
Half of that list was condemned by the church. To publicly "not believe" would've been a death sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.
And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at the mouth on a public forum, please:
"Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Wondering Why...
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:30PM
An all-knowing God would let his church get so much crap so wrong for so long.
Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to try to account for the evidence that they can no longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.
Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?
Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to try to account for the evidence that they can no longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.
Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:30PM
Like It Was Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trooth. Wrote:
> > Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> > Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens
> of
> > thousands of current/living scientists who
> > believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> > them are as smart as your though LOL
>
> Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?
>
> Half of that list was condemned by the church. To
> publicly "not believe" would've been a death
> sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what
> he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.
>
> And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at
> the mouth on a public forum, please:
>
> "Albert Einstein's religious views have been
> studied extensively. He said he believed in the
> "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a
> personal god, a belief he criticized. He also
> called himself an agnostic, while disassociating
> himself from the label atheist, preferring, he
> said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the
> weakness of our intellectual understanding of
> nature and of our own being."
Not talking about "church" or religion, talking about belief in a God or creator. I know what Einstien's veiws were, which support what I wrote, not what you wrote. Wrong again. Which makes me laugh btw.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trooth. Wrote:
> > Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> > Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens
> of
> > thousands of current/living scientists who
> > believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> > them are as smart as your though LOL
>
> Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?
>
> Half of that list was condemned by the church. To
> publicly "not believe" would've been a death
> sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what
> he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.
>
> And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at
> the mouth on a public forum, please:
>
> "Albert Einstein's religious views have been
> studied extensively. He said he believed in the
> "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a
> personal god, a belief he criticized. He also
> called himself an agnostic, while disassociating
> himself from the label atheist, preferring, he
> said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the
> weakness of our intellectual understanding of
> nature and of our own being."
Not talking about "church" or religion, talking about belief in a God or creator. I know what Einstien's veiws were, which support what I wrote, not what you wrote. Wrong again. Which makes me laugh btw.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:32PM
Wondering Why... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> An all-knowing God would let his church get so
> much crap so wrong for so long.
>
> Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to
> try to account for the evidence that they can no
> longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble
> those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.
>
> Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly
> correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?
The Bible's the Bible. Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.
-------------------------------------------------------
> An all-knowing God would let his church get so
> much crap so wrong for so long.
>
> Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to
> try to account for the evidence that they can no
> longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble
> those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.
>
> Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly
> correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?
The Bible's the Bible. Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Laughing.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 04:47PM
> I know what Einstien's veiws were
You seem to know a lot of things that you can't support with evidence. That speaks for itself.
> Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.
Not even remotely true. It was revised by every Pope prior to the printing press.
There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by definition, is the willingness to accept something as fact without any rational basis for support. Logic means little to you, and anything that's contrary to your beliefs must be the work of another fictional character that you call Satan.
Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any of them.
You seem to know a lot of things that you can't support with evidence. That speaks for itself.
> Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.
Not even remotely true. It was revised by every Pope prior to the printing press.
There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by definition, is the willingness to accept something as fact without any rational basis for support. Logic means little to you, and anything that's contrary to your beliefs must be the work of another fictional character that you call Satan.
Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any of them.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Maybe?
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:00PM
They worship because they're scared?
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:01PM
Laughing. Wrote:
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> > I know what Einstien's veiws were
>
> You seem to know a lot of things that you can't
> support with evidence. That speaks for itself.
>
> > Interpretation of the Bible does change over
> time but the text does not.
>
> Not even remotely true. It was revised by every
> Pope prior to the printing press.
>
> There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by
> definition, is the willingness to accept something
> as fact without any rational basis for support.
> Logic means little to you, and anything that's
> contrary to your beliefs must be the work of
> another fictional character that you call Satan.
>
> Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all
> makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant
> you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins
> await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any
> of them.
Every pope huh? You inability to not post in absolutes belies any scientific credibility that you've been trying establish. Who's your source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this thread appears to be you.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > I know what Einstien's veiws were
>
> You seem to know a lot of things that you can't
> support with evidence. That speaks for itself.
>
> > Interpretation of the Bible does change over
> time but the text does not.
>
> Not even remotely true. It was revised by every
> Pope prior to the printing press.
>
> There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by
> definition, is the willingness to accept something
> as fact without any rational basis for support.
> Logic means little to you, and anything that's
> contrary to your beliefs must be the work of
> another fictional character that you call Satan.
>
> Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all
> makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant
> you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins
> await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any
> of them.
Every pope huh? You inability to not post in absolutes belies any scientific credibility that you've been trying establish. Who's your source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this thread appears to be you.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Curious...
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:08PM
@Trooth: Which sect do you subscribe to?
I still think one of the most amusing situations in recent history came from Europe, when Catholics and Protestants were perfectly willing to slaughter each other (some still are).
Why would a God that gave a damn allow two groups with largely the same belief to kill each other in his name, unless it was just for amusement?
I mean, they're all Christians, right? He sent his "Son" down to get the record straight, and get everyone on the same page, which was also the same time that Hell opened for business. Get it wrong, burn forever... which ones are toasty now?
Do you really think your God is that inept?
I still think one of the most amusing situations in recent history came from Europe, when Catholics and Protestants were perfectly willing to slaughter each other (some still are).
Why would a God that gave a damn allow two groups with largely the same belief to kill each other in his name, unless it was just for amusement?
I mean, they're all Christians, right? He sent his "Son" down to get the record straight, and get everyone on the same page, which was also the same time that Hell opened for business. Get it wrong, burn forever... which ones are toasty now?
Do you really think your God is that inept?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Laughing.
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:17PM
Trooth. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Every pope huh? You inability to not post
> in absolutes belies any scientific credibility
> that you've been trying establish. Who's your
> source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this
> thread appears to be you.
See, the difference between us is that I can concede a point when I do overstep myself, as I MAY have, in this case. We will never know with certainty.
You, on the other hand, fixate on one little point, and use it to invalidate everything else, no matter how sensible it is. It fits the pattern.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Every pope huh? You inability to not post
> in absolutes belies any scientific credibility
> that you've been trying establish. Who's your
> source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this
> thread appears to be you.
See, the difference between us is that I can concede a point when I do overstep myself, as I MAY have, in this case. We will never know with certainty.
You, on the other hand, fixate on one little point, and use it to invalidate everything else, no matter how sensible it is. It fits the pattern.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Blow By Blow
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:24PM
They are both trolls, but:
"Trooth" says the Bible has never been changed.
"Laughing" says that every Pope changed it.
Instead of admitting he was wrong, Trooth jumps on the word "every" like a lifeline.
This shit is going nowhere.
"Trooth" says the Bible has never been changed.
"Laughing" says that every Pope changed it.
Instead of admitting he was wrong, Trooth jumps on the word "every" like a lifeline.
This shit is going nowhere.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
More Versions Than Popes
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:28PM
Which one is right?
"In all, 198 editions of the Bible were in the language of the laity, 626 editions all together, and all before the first Protestant version, and all having the full approval of the Church"
http://www.cathtruth.com/catholicbible/earlyhis.htm
"In all, 198 editions of the Bible were in the language of the laity, 626 editions all together, and all before the first Protestant version, and all having the full approval of the Church"
http://www.cathtruth.com/catholicbible/earlyhis.htm
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:48PM
It's good to see some question the existence of a God or Gods.
If you believe, your religion is mainly a function of where you were born.
Does that make sense if there was a real God? No, of course not. It only makes sense if we have a bunch of man made Gods.
I think that the all powerful imagination of man created the Gods that have existed, past and present.
Come on now people, deep down inside where you store your darkest concerns, you know it's all a myth. You've noted the discrepencies and contradictions and wondered about your beliefs. People, you need to find the strenght to reject the religious programming you received as a child. You know it can't be true. There is no afterlife where everything is perfect. There are no pearly gates. Saint Peter is dead and long gone. And, there is no God. So, relax and enjoy life.
If you believe, your religion is mainly a function of where you were born.
Does that make sense if there was a real God? No, of course not. It only makes sense if we have a bunch of man made Gods.
I think that the all powerful imagination of man created the Gods that have existed, past and present.
Come on now people, deep down inside where you store your darkest concerns, you know it's all a myth. You've noted the discrepencies and contradictions and wondered about your beliefs. People, you need to find the strenght to reject the religious programming you received as a child. You know it can't be true. There is no afterlife where everything is perfect. There are no pearly gates. Saint Peter is dead and long gone. And, there is no God. So, relax and enjoy life.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
NoNeedForFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:58PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It's good to see some question the existence of a
> God or Gods.
More than we can know. For many, it's easier to just pretend and get along, no matter what you feel inside.
> If you believe, your religion is mainly a function
> of where you were born.
Where and WHEN. Look at Greece.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's good to see some question the existence of a
> God or Gods.
More than we can know. For many, it's easier to just pretend and get along, no matter what you feel inside.
> If you believe, your religion is mainly a function
> of where you were born.
Where and WHEN. Look at Greece.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
-666-
()
Date: April 09, 2013 05:59PM
You heard the man, there is no God, but he didn't say there wasn't a devil.
I will own all of you soon enough. Enjoy life and don't bother praying to a God to save your soul. I made a deal long ago that ensures I will get your souls.
See you all in Hell!
ROTFLMAO
I will own all of you soon enough. Enjoy life and don't bother praying to a God to save your soul. I made a deal long ago that ensures I will get your souls.
See you all in Hell!
ROTFLMAO
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
At Last!
()
Date: April 09, 2013 06:17PM
-666- Wrote:
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> Enjoy life and
> don't bother praying to a God to save your soul.
Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a petulant and vindictive God. He created me so that I could honor him, and he'll punish me forever if I don't.
I understand, because I get my thrills the same way:
10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE AND FEAR YOU."
20 GOTO 10
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> Enjoy life and
> don't bother praying to a God to save your soul.
Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a petulant and vindictive God. He created me so that I could honor him, and he'll punish me forever if I don't.
I understand, because I get my thrills the same way:
10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE AND FEAR YOU."
20 GOTO 10
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 06:28PM
At Last! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> -666- Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Enjoy life and
> > don't bother praying to a God to save your
> soul.
>
> Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a
> petulant and vindictive God. He created me so
> that I could honor him, and he'll punish me
> forever if I don't.
>
> I understand, because I get my thrills the same
> way:
>
> 10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE
> AND FEAR YOU."
> 20 GOTO 10
You sound like good sheeple stock.
Yes, the all powerful imagination of man created a petulant and vindictive God that loves you, but will punish you if you don't kneel before him and worship him.
The good news is that it's all a myth. So, relax and get off your knees.
Seek the truth. The truth will set you free from the fear of the man created God.
-------------------------------------------------------
> -666- Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Enjoy life and
> > don't bother praying to a God to save your
> soul.
>
> Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a
> petulant and vindictive God. He created me so
> that I could honor him, and he'll punish me
> forever if I don't.
>
> I understand, because I get my thrills the same
> way:
>
> 10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE
> AND FEAR YOU."
> 20 GOTO 10
You sound like good sheeple stock.
Yes, the all powerful imagination of man created a petulant and vindictive God that loves you, but will punish you if you don't kneel before him and worship him.
The good news is that it's all a myth. So, relax and get off your knees.
Seek the truth. The truth will set you free from the fear of the man created God.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Geez
()
Date: April 09, 2013 06:38PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You sound like good sheeple stock.
And you sound like someone with an underdeveloped sense of irony and sarcasm.
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> You sound like good sheeple stock.
And you sound like someone with an underdeveloped sense of irony and sarcasm.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:04PM
It's quite clear that believers are the types of people that can't get the big picture, because they lack sufficient mental bandwidth.
Believers tend to ignore the contradictions and absurdity of the bible when taken in whole form.
There are a lot of teachings in the bible that are not considered "Christian" today.
Believers possess a very powerful ability to rationalize the contradictions and fallacies of their religion.
The good news is that religious belief is dying out worldwide. As people advance in scientific understanding and education, they are discarding the beliefs of their primitive ancestors.
Let science and reason be your guide. The truth will lead you to happiness and contentment.
Believers tend to ignore the contradictions and absurdity of the bible when taken in whole form.
There are a lot of teachings in the bible that are not considered "Christian" today.
Believers possess a very powerful ability to rationalize the contradictions and fallacies of their religion.
The good news is that religious belief is dying out worldwide. As people advance in scientific understanding and education, they are discarding the beliefs of their primitive ancestors.
Let science and reason be your guide. The truth will lead you to happiness and contentment.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
From On High...
()
Date: April 09, 2013 07:14PM
Says it all...
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 09, 2013 09:09PM
The biggest assholes are the Christians that go around and scare children with the thought that if they don't believe in a myth, they will be condemned to an eternity in hell. I think that's child abuse.
Anyone selling or pushing a lie is an asshole. Atheists aren't selling anything. We are just pointing out the lack of proof and evidence in the assertion that there is a God that loves you and will punish you if you don't get down on your knees, believe in him and worship him. Atheist seek the truth and reason. We don't like to live with the fear of false threats of punishment for eternity. Being an atheist is natural. If you hear or know of something that you know is false, you simply point it out.
Atheist don't believe in the supernatural, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, God, the devil, angles, etc..., because it clear that these types of characters and events are the creation of someones imagination.
Anyone selling or pushing a lie is an asshole. Atheists aren't selling anything. We are just pointing out the lack of proof and evidence in the assertion that there is a God that loves you and will punish you if you don't get down on your knees, believe in him and worship him. Atheist seek the truth and reason. We don't like to live with the fear of false threats of punishment for eternity. Being an atheist is natural. If you hear or know of something that you know is false, you simply point it out.
Atheist don't believe in the supernatural, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, God, the devil, angles, etc..., because it clear that these types of characters and events are the creation of someones imagination.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid.
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Date: April 09, 2013 09:12PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Atheist don't believe in the supernatural, Santa
> Claus, the Easter Bunny, God, the devil, angles,
> etc..., because it clear that these types of
> characters and events are the creation of someones
> imagination.
Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in reincarnation.
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> Atheist don't believe in the supernatural, Santa
> Claus, the Easter Bunny, God, the devil, angles,
> etc..., because it clear that these types of
> characters and events are the creation of someones
> imagination.
Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in reincarnation.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 09, 2013 09:23PM
Invalid. Wrote:
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> Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in
> reincarnation.
No dude, atheist don't believe in reincarnation or any supernatural events or beings. If a Bhuddists believes in reincarnation, then I don't think he's a true atheist. Bhuddists may not believe in God, but they believe in other imaginary things that defy proof, evidence and reason. Atheist don't rely on faith. Bhuddists have faith in their beliefs, because there's no proof or evidence of their assertions.
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> Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in
> reincarnation.
No dude, atheist don't believe in reincarnation or any supernatural events or beings. If a Bhuddists believes in reincarnation, then I don't think he's a true atheist. Bhuddists may not believe in God, but they believe in other imaginary things that defy proof, evidence and reason. Atheist don't rely on faith. Bhuddists have faith in their beliefs, because there's no proof or evidence of their assertions.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ChillingWithSatan
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Date: April 09, 2013 09:26PM
A common misconception about atheism is that atheism is a religion. A religion is a set of beliefs that guides moral principals. Atheist usually have self generated morals, which tend to be similar, because they base it on common sense, philosophy, and law. Also Atheism is a form of not having a religion. That is like saying not skydiving is a hobby.
Another misconception about atheists is that they worship the devil. Although I do not represent atheism as a spokesperson, I can definitely say that you are not atheist if you simply worship the theistic satan. Satan is a result of God. If you do not think Satan has come from god, then you probably believe satan appeared out of nowhere similar to god, therefore contradicting the meaning of atheism.
Just don't be assholes atheists.
Another misconception about atheists is that they worship the devil. Although I do not represent atheism as a spokesperson, I can definitely say that you are not atheist if you simply worship the theistic satan. Satan is a result of God. If you do not think Satan has come from god, then you probably believe satan appeared out of nowhere similar to god, therefore contradicting the meaning of atheism.
Just don't be assholes atheists.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 09, 2013 09:36PM
You are correct that atheist view the devil in the same way they view Gods. That is they don't exists. They, the devil and God, are the product of someones imagination that was a good story teller in acient times.
Atheist don't push or sell their beliefs on anyone, because we don't believe in myths, ghosts, Gods, etc... There's nothing to push or sell other than all these religious assertions of supernatural events and beings lack proof and evidence and are therefore false.
Atheists enjoy a good story or myth about the afterlife, but we don't believe it to be true.
I view the bible in the same way I view Greek mythology. It's an interesting collection of myths and beliefs of the gullible.
Atheist don't push or sell their beliefs on anyone, because we don't believe in myths, ghosts, Gods, etc... There's nothing to push or sell other than all these religious assertions of supernatural events and beings lack proof and evidence and are therefore false.
Atheists enjoy a good story or myth about the afterlife, but we don't believe it to be true.
I view the bible in the same way I view Greek mythology. It's an interesting collection of myths and beliefs of the gullible.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
VAnd3874
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Date: April 09, 2013 10:03PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I view the bible in the same way I view Greek mythology. It's an interesting collection of myths and beliefs
The old and new testaments are the mythologies written by ancient Middle Eastern civilizations.
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> I view the bible in the same way I view Greek mythology. It's an interesting collection of myths and beliefs
The old and new testaments are the mythologies written by ancient Middle Eastern civilizations.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid.
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Date: April 09, 2013 10:24PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Invalid. Wrote:
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> > Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in
> > reincarnation.
>
> No dude, atheist don't believe in reincarnation or
> any supernatural events or beings. If a Bhuddists
> believes in reincarnation, then I don't think he's
> a true atheist. Bhuddists may not believe in God,
> but they believe in other imaginary things that
> defy proof, evidence and reason. Atheist don't
> rely on faith. Bhuddists have faith in their
> beliefs, because there's no proof or evidence of
> their assertions.
You don't have a clue about what you're talking about here, and it would only take you a few seconds to educate yourself.
http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/buddhaatheism.htm
Buddhism is not about either believing or not believing in God or gods. Rather, the historical Buddha taught that believing in gods was not useful for those seeking to realize enlightenment. In other words, God is unnecessary in Buddhism. For this reason, Buddhism is more accurately called nontheistic than atheistic.
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> Invalid. Wrote:
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> > Bhuddists can be Atheists and still believe in
> > reincarnation.
>
> No dude, atheist don't believe in reincarnation or
> any supernatural events or beings. If a Bhuddists
> believes in reincarnation, then I don't think he's
> a true atheist. Bhuddists may not believe in God,
> but they believe in other imaginary things that
> defy proof, evidence and reason. Atheist don't
> rely on faith. Bhuddists have faith in their
> beliefs, because there's no proof or evidence of
> their assertions.
You don't have a clue about what you're talking about here, and it would only take you a few seconds to educate yourself.
http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/buddhaatheism.htm
Buddhism is not about either believing or not believing in God or gods. Rather, the historical Buddha taught that believing in gods was not useful for those seeking to realize enlightenment. In other words, God is unnecessary in Buddhism. For this reason, Buddhism is more accurately called nontheistic than atheistic.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
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Date: April 09, 2013 10:51PM
Invalid. Wrote:
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> You don't have a clue about what you're talking
> about here, and it would only take you a few
> seconds to educate yourself.
>
> http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteaching
> s/a/buddhaatheism.htm
>
> Buddhism is not about either believing or not
> believing in God or gods. Rather, the historical
> Buddha taught that believing in gods was not
> useful for those seeking to realize enlightenment.
> In other words, God is unnecessary in Buddhism.
> For this reason, Buddhism is more accurately
> called nontheistic than atheistic.
Dude, atheist are not Buddhist and Buddhist are not atheist. From the link a Buddhist may or may not believe in a God, but God is not useful to Buddhists. Perhaps most, but not all buddhists, don't believe in God or gods. I can see where a buddhist could believe in the existence of a God, but could care less about that God. Buddhist are mellow people.
Atheist don't believe in any supernatural being or spirtual world.
Believing in something based on faith is not consistent with atheism. However, buddhists have faith in what they believe. If buddhists believe in reincarnation, then they must have faith in that, because there is not proof or evidence fo reincarnation.
Faith is for the gullible.
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> You don't have a clue about what you're talking
> about here, and it would only take you a few
> seconds to educate yourself.
>
> http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteaching
> s/a/buddhaatheism.htm
>
> Buddhism is not about either believing or not
> believing in God or gods. Rather, the historical
> Buddha taught that believing in gods was not
> useful for those seeking to realize enlightenment.
> In other words, God is unnecessary in Buddhism.
> For this reason, Buddhism is more accurately
> called nontheistic than atheistic.
Dude, atheist are not Buddhist and Buddhist are not atheist. From the link a Buddhist may or may not believe in a God, but God is not useful to Buddhists. Perhaps most, but not all buddhists, don't believe in God or gods. I can see where a buddhist could believe in the existence of a God, but could care less about that God. Buddhist are mellow people.
Atheist don't believe in any supernatural being or spirtual world.
Believing in something based on faith is not consistent with atheism. However, buddhists have faith in what they believe. If buddhists believe in reincarnation, then they must have faith in that, because there is not proof or evidence fo reincarnation.
Faith is for the gullible.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Still Invalid.
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Date: April 09, 2013 10:58PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Atheist don't believe in any supernatural being or
> spirtual world.
You truly are dense. You really should take the time to understand the word Atheist and the systems of belief that you're attacking.
Here's a definition, so you don't have to trouble yourself by looking it up:
a·the·ist [ey-thee-ist] noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
An Atheist does not believe that there's a sentient intelligence that created or is running things, but that DOES NOT preclude a belief in something that you might call "supernatural".
A Jedi could be an Atheist.
I am an Atheist -- I just happen to be an Atheist who's become sick of you waving the ignorance flag and claiming to speak for us all.
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> Atheist don't believe in any supernatural being or
> spirtual world.
You truly are dense. You really should take the time to understand the word Atheist and the systems of belief that you're attacking.
Here's a definition, so you don't have to trouble yourself by looking it up:
a·the·ist [ey-thee-ist] noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
An Atheist does not believe that there's a sentient intelligence that created or is running things, but that DOES NOT preclude a belief in something that you might call "supernatural".
A Jedi could be an Atheist.
I am an Atheist -- I just happen to be an Atheist who's become sick of you waving the ignorance flag and claiming to speak for us all.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
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Date: April 09, 2013 11:06PM
LackofFaith: typical atheist. Everyone who disagrees is an idiot.
Look people, stop engaging the troll. He repeats the same arguments over and over again, hoping that somebody will listen to him. He's like Barack Obama.
Look people, stop engaging the troll. He repeats the same arguments over and over again, hoping that somebody will listen to him. He's like Barack Obama.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid./Dinosaur Guy
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Date: April 09, 2013 11:11PM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> LackofFaith: typical atheist. Everyone who
> disagrees is an idiot.
>
> Look people, stop engaging the troll. He repeats
> the same arguments over and over again, hoping
> that somebody will listen to him. He's like Barack
> Obama.
Actually, I think it just became interesting.
Arguing with people in the hope of changing their belief is futile. On the other hand, stomping someone who gives Atheism a bad name could be considered productive.
I asked the guy nicely to back off of the "sheeple" crap. A page later, he calls me "sheeple material".
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> LackofFaith: typical atheist. Everyone who
> disagrees is an idiot.
>
> Look people, stop engaging the troll. He repeats
> the same arguments over and over again, hoping
> that somebody will listen to him. He's like Barack
> Obama.
Actually, I think it just became interesting.
Arguing with people in the hope of changing their belief is futile. On the other hand, stomping someone who gives Atheism a bad name could be considered productive.
I asked the guy nicely to back off of the "sheeple" crap. A page later, he calls me "sheeple material".
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:12PM
Invalid./Dinosaur Guy Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> > LackofFaith: typical atheist. Everyone who
> > disagrees is an idiot.
> >
> > Look people, stop engaging the troll. He
> repeats
> > the same arguments over and over again, hoping
> > that somebody will listen to him. He's like
> Barack
> > Obama.
>
> Actually, I think it just became interesting.
>
> Arguing with people in the hope of changing their
> belief is futile. On the other hand, stomping
> someone who gives Atheism a bad name could be
> considered productive.
>
> I asked the guy nicely to back off of the
> "sheeple" crap. A page later, he calls me
> "sheeple material".
My issue is not with atheists themselves. My issue is with the way in which a select few choose to conduct themselves (i.e. everyone who believes in God is deluded; only science is right, etc.,etc, etc.)
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > LackofFaith: typical atheist. Everyone who
> > disagrees is an idiot.
> >
> > Look people, stop engaging the troll. He
> repeats
> > the same arguments over and over again, hoping
> > that somebody will listen to him. He's like
> Barack
> > Obama.
>
> Actually, I think it just became interesting.
>
> Arguing with people in the hope of changing their
> belief is futile. On the other hand, stomping
> someone who gives Atheism a bad name could be
> considered productive.
>
> I asked the guy nicely to back off of the
> "sheeple" crap. A page later, he calls me
> "sheeple material".
My issue is not with atheists themselves. My issue is with the way in which a select few choose to conduct themselves (i.e. everyone who believes in God is deluded; only science is right, etc.,etc, etc.)
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
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Date: April 09, 2013 11:18PM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> My issue is not with atheists themselves. My issue
> is with the way in which a select few choose to
> conduct themselves (i.e. everyone who believes in
> God is deluded; only science is right, etc.,etc,
> etc.)
Well, congrats... your point has been proven, and we have something in common.
I've been throwing stuff out in the hope that maybe people would mull it over, and make of it what they will.
The fake "LackOfFaith" was pretty obvious, and easy to weed out, but this guy is relentless, offensive, and claiming kinship with me just because of our belief is akin to the assholes on this site who claim that whites are the master race just because someone with the same skin color actually managed to do something impressive.
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> My issue is not with atheists themselves. My issue
> is with the way in which a select few choose to
> conduct themselves (i.e. everyone who believes in
> God is deluded; only science is right, etc.,etc,
> etc.)
Well, congrats... your point has been proven, and we have something in common.
I've been throwing stuff out in the hope that maybe people would mull it over, and make of it what they will.
The fake "LackOfFaith" was pretty obvious, and easy to weed out, but this guy is relentless, offensive, and claiming kinship with me just because of our belief is akin to the assholes on this site who claim that whites are the master race just because someone with the same skin color actually managed to do something impressive.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:31PM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> Well, congrats... your point has been proven, and
> we have something in common.
>
> I've been throwing stuff out in the hope that
> maybe people would mull it over, and make of it
> what they will.
>
> The fake "LackOfFaith" was pretty obvious, and
> easy to weed out, but this guy is relentless,
> offensive, and claiming kinship with me just
> because of our belief is akin to the assholes on
> this site who claim that whites are the master
> race just because someone with the same skin color
> actually managed to do something impressive.
Yucky24 has some valid points. He's out of his mind, but he's not terribly informed. As for atheism, my view is this: there are things that science simply doesn't explain particularly well or at all. I don't believe in the organized religion version of God. I believe that God is an extraordinarily powerful being that exists outside of the realms of space and time. I firmly believe that God simply doesn't care about humans.
If you're familiar with Deism, that's basically what I believe.
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> Well, congrats... your point has been proven, and
> we have something in common.
>
> I've been throwing stuff out in the hope that
> maybe people would mull it over, and make of it
> what they will.
>
> The fake "LackOfFaith" was pretty obvious, and
> easy to weed out, but this guy is relentless,
> offensive, and claiming kinship with me just
> because of our belief is akin to the assholes on
> this site who claim that whites are the master
> race just because someone with the same skin color
> actually managed to do something impressive.
Yucky24 has some valid points. He's out of his mind, but he's not terribly informed. As for atheism, my view is this: there are things that science simply doesn't explain particularly well or at all. I don't believe in the organized religion version of God. I believe that God is an extraordinarily powerful being that exists outside of the realms of space and time. I firmly believe that God simply doesn't care about humans.
If you're familiar with Deism, that's basically what I believe.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:37PM
You people are deluded.
If you don't believe in a God, then you don't believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil, angels, fairies, etc...
The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods and all their cohorts.
Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications point to the fact that these supreme beings are a product of some very good imaginations and story tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that they have ever existed other than in the minds of story tellers, religious leaders, and the believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't claim facts based on faith.
People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and myths to be true.
Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods, but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with atheism.
Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
If you don't believe in a God, then you don't believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil, angels, fairies, etc...
The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods and all their cohorts.
Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications point to the fact that these supreme beings are a product of some very good imaginations and story tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that they have ever existed other than in the minds of story tellers, religious leaders, and the believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't claim facts based on faith.
People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and myths to be true.
Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods, but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with atheism.
Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:39PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You people are deluded.
>
> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
>
> The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods
> and all their cohorts.
>
> Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications
> point to the fact that these supreme beings are a
> product of some very good imaginations and story
> tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that
> they have ever existed other than in the minds of
> story tellers, religious leaders, and the
> believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on
> faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't
> claim facts based on faith.
>
> People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and
> myths to be true.
>
> Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods,
> but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist
> pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with
> atheism.
>
> Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
You must have had a very religious family member, which is why you've become so bitter with regard to religion.
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> You people are deluded.
>
> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
>
> The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods
> and all their cohorts.
>
> Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications
> point to the fact that these supreme beings are a
> product of some very good imaginations and story
> tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that
> they have ever existed other than in the minds of
> story tellers, religious leaders, and the
> believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on
> faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't
> claim facts based on faith.
>
> People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and
> myths to be true.
>
> Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods,
> but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist
> pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with
> atheism.
>
> Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
You must have had a very religious family member, which is why you've become so bitter with regard to religion.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ex-Lester
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:48PM
They have deities in Buddhism and Hinduism. Where you have deities, there's usually a pecking order where one deity or god sits above all the rest. People offer prayers to deities devoted to special tasks. In Christianity, they would be like patron saints.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:51PM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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>
> Yucky24 has some valid points. He's out of his
> mind, but he's not terribly informed. As for
> atheism, my view is this: there are things that
> science simply doesn't explain particularly well
> or at all. I don't believe in the organized
> religion version of God. I believe that God is an
> extraordinarily powerful being that exists
> outside of the realms of space and time. I firmly
> believe that God simply doesn't care about humans.
I can see that... the quantum explanation of the "Big Bang" makes more sense to me than a supreme being, but even that has never really sat comfortably with me. There are some things in this world (or more accurately, outside of this world) that humans may never understand. I think I understand why people believe in God, too.
My big issue with religion is that with God on their side, people have found themselves capable of living with atrocities that would otherwise require the rarest sort of sociopath. I also remember (it really seems like only yesterday) when only the bravest Atheist would even consider speaking their beliefs aloud.
Even now, it's the only "religion" (it's really not a religion at all) that is persecuted with near-universal acceptance. You have to walk a mile in my shoes to understand why it's so important to us that government and religion remain two entirely different issues -- the Constitution exists to protect us from the "tyranny of the majority", and we need it more than most other groups.
> If you're familiar with Deism, that's basically
> what I believe.
Yes, I am. Before I really "lost my faith" entirely, I had gone in that direction myself. If there really is a God who put everything in motion, he seems to have had a pretty hands-off management style since then.
Note that I say "if", out of "respect", if you want to call it that. I really shouldn't be confused with an Agnostic... I was there once, too. For me, Atheism is the end of a long progression of contemplation, worry, and even fear. The day you wake up and you truly believe that "this is it", and as soon as the amino acids in your head stop knocking into each other, you'll cease to exist entirely is a pretty scary one. Finding purpose in life after that is a challenge of its own.
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>
> Yucky24 has some valid points. He's out of his
> mind, but he's not terribly informed. As for
> atheism, my view is this: there are things that
> science simply doesn't explain particularly well
> or at all. I don't believe in the organized
> religion version of God. I believe that God is an
> extraordinarily powerful being that exists
> outside of the realms of space and time. I firmly
> believe that God simply doesn't care about humans.
I can see that... the quantum explanation of the "Big Bang" makes more sense to me than a supreme being, but even that has never really sat comfortably with me. There are some things in this world (or more accurately, outside of this world) that humans may never understand. I think I understand why people believe in God, too.
My big issue with religion is that with God on their side, people have found themselves capable of living with atrocities that would otherwise require the rarest sort of sociopath. I also remember (it really seems like only yesterday) when only the bravest Atheist would even consider speaking their beliefs aloud.
Even now, it's the only "religion" (it's really not a religion at all) that is persecuted with near-universal acceptance. You have to walk a mile in my shoes to understand why it's so important to us that government and religion remain two entirely different issues -- the Constitution exists to protect us from the "tyranny of the majority", and we need it more than most other groups.
> If you're familiar with Deism, that's basically
> what I believe.
Yes, I am. Before I really "lost my faith" entirely, I had gone in that direction myself. If there really is a God who put everything in motion, he seems to have had a pretty hands-off management style since then.
Note that I say "if", out of "respect", if you want to call it that. I really shouldn't be confused with an Agnostic... I was there once, too. For me, Atheism is the end of a long progression of contemplation, worry, and even fear. The day you wake up and you truly believe that "this is it", and as soon as the amino acids in your head stop knocking into each other, you'll cease to exist entirely is a pretty scary one. Finding purpose in life after that is a challenge of its own.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 09, 2013 11:55PM
ex-Lester Wrote:
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> They have deities in Buddhism and Hinduism.
On the Buddhism side, that's not necessarily true. Like Taoism, Buddhism is actual compatible with a lot of different philosophies, including Atheism.
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> They have deities in Buddhism and Hinduism.
On the Buddhism side, that's not necessarily true. Like Taoism, Buddhism is actual compatible with a lot of different philosophies, including Atheism.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 10, 2013 12:01AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
Okay, I'm going to engage this....
There are Atheists who believe in something like what religous folks would call a "soul". I mean, you can feel "spirituality" at times, so it's not a hard leap to make.
I've talked to some that believe that once they die, they'll rejoin some sort of force or energy that exists around us. Maybe they won't have an individual awareness anymore, they find it impossible to believe that the spark which gives them life will just disappear.
So, I'd say that most Atheists don't believe in "ghosts", but there are many that do have faith in something that they can't actually prove. I call that "superstition", but I'm not going to tell them that they're wrong. And by the definition of the word, they're Atheists, just the same.
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> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
Okay, I'm going to engage this....
There are Atheists who believe in something like what religous folks would call a "soul". I mean, you can feel "spirituality" at times, so it's not a hard leap to make.
I've talked to some that believe that once they die, they'll rejoin some sort of force or energy that exists around us. Maybe they won't have an individual awareness anymore, they find it impossible to believe that the spark which gives them life will just disappear.
So, I'd say that most Atheists don't believe in "ghosts", but there are many that do have faith in something that they can't actually prove. I call that "superstition", but I'm not going to tell them that they're wrong. And by the definition of the word, they're Atheists, just the same.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 10, 2013 12:08AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You people are deluded.
>
> You must have had a very religious family member,
> which is why you've become so bitter with regard
> to religion.
This.
I'm really starting to wonder if LackofFaith isn't one of the "God haters" that I referenced earlier. I find those to be comical... you can't have a grudge against God without believing in him.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You people are deluded.
>
> You must have had a very religious family member,
> which is why you've become so bitter with regard
> to religion.
This.
I'm really starting to wonder if LackofFaith isn't one of the "God haters" that I referenced earlier. I find those to be comical... you can't have a grudge against God without believing in him.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 10, 2013 12:09AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> You must have had a very religious family member,
> which is why you've become so bitter with regard
> to religion.
It's not about being bitter; it's about being wrong. It's about being false. It's about a lie. It's about not being the truth.
I don't care about what others believe. It's the others that try to push or sell their beliefs on non-believers. It's about believers claiming non-beievers are condemned to hell for eternity. It's about the absurd belief that a child murderer can be granted eternal life in heaven, if he accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and savior prior to execution. What does that have to do with moral accountability? It makes moral accountability a joke. It takes a sheeple mind to accept that belief.
I'm relieved that a heaven doesn't exist where you could spend eternity with child murderers and molesters. Think about it sheeple. When you get to heaven, you'll be reunited with all the child molesters and murderers that "found" religion before they met their state imposed fate.
I could go on and on about the absurdity of religion and the belief in myths. I know believers are offended, just like children when they're told Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't exist.
ROFLMAO
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> You must have had a very religious family member,
> which is why you've become so bitter with regard
> to religion.
It's not about being bitter; it's about being wrong. It's about being false. It's about a lie. It's about not being the truth.
I don't care about what others believe. It's the others that try to push or sell their beliefs on non-believers. It's about believers claiming non-beievers are condemned to hell for eternity. It's about the absurd belief that a child murderer can be granted eternal life in heaven, if he accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and savior prior to execution. What does that have to do with moral accountability? It makes moral accountability a joke. It takes a sheeple mind to accept that belief.
I'm relieved that a heaven doesn't exist where you could spend eternity with child murderers and molesters. Think about it sheeple. When you get to heaven, you'll be reunited with all the child molesters and murderers that "found" religion before they met their state imposed fate.
I could go on and on about the absurdity of religion and the belief in myths. I know believers are offended, just like children when they're told Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't exist.
ROFLMAO
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 10, 2013 12:20AM
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 10, 2013 12:21AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I don't care about what others believe.
That's clearly wrong.
> It's the
> others that try to push or sell their beliefs on
> non-believers.
So, turn-about is fair play?
> It's about believers claiming
> non-beievers are condemned to hell for eternity.
They're free too. A Gypsy fortune-teller could pull the "Thinner" shit on me, and I wouldn't care. It's the way we're treated here and now that concerns me.
> It's about the absurd belief that a child murderer
> can be granted eternal life in heaven, if he
> accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and savior prior
> to execution. What does that have to do with moral
> accountability? It makes moral accountability a
> joke.
I agree with you there... the idea that anything can be forgiven (or worse, that there is someone who can absolve you of wrong acts) is dangerous.
> It takes a sheeple mind to accept that
> belief.
That again? I'm going to stop reading right here.
> I'm relieved that a heaven doesn't exist where you
> could spend eternity with child murderers and
> molesters. Think about it sheeple. When you get to
> heaven, you'll be reunited with all the child
> molesters and murderers that "found" religion
> before they met their state imposed fate.
>
> I could go on and on about the absurdity of
> religion and the belief in myths. I know believers
> are offended, just like children when they're told
> Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't exist.
>
> ROFLMAO
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> I don't care about what others believe.
That's clearly wrong.
> It's the
> others that try to push or sell their beliefs on
> non-believers.
So, turn-about is fair play?
> It's about believers claiming
> non-beievers are condemned to hell for eternity.
They're free too. A Gypsy fortune-teller could pull the "Thinner" shit on me, and I wouldn't care. It's the way we're treated here and now that concerns me.
> It's about the absurd belief that a child murderer
> can be granted eternal life in heaven, if he
> accepts Jesus Christ as his lord and savior prior
> to execution. What does that have to do with moral
> accountability? It makes moral accountability a
> joke.
I agree with you there... the idea that anything can be forgiven (or worse, that there is someone who can absolve you of wrong acts) is dangerous.
> It takes a sheeple mind to accept that
> belief.
That again? I'm going to stop reading right here.
> I'm relieved that a heaven doesn't exist where you
> could spend eternity with child murderers and
> molesters. Think about it sheeple. When you get to
> heaven, you'll be reunited with all the child
> molesters and murderers that "found" religion
> before they met their state imposed fate.
>
> I could go on and on about the absurdity of
> religion and the belief in myths. I know believers
> are offended, just like children when they're told
> Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't exist.
>
> ROFLMAO
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 10, 2013 03:42PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It's quite clear that believers are the types of
> people that can't get the big picture, because
> they lack sufficient mental bandwidth.
>
> Believers tend to ignore the contradictions and
> absurdity of the bible when taken in whole form.
>
> There are a lot of teachings in the bible that are
> not considered "Christian" today.
>
> Believers possess a very powerful ability to
> rationalize the contradictions and fallacies of
> their religion.
>
> The good news is that religious belief is dying
> out worldwide. As people advance in scientific
> understanding and education, they are discarding
> the beliefs of their primitive ancestors.
>
> Let science and reason be your guide. The truth
> will lead you to happiness and contentment.
Estimated 100 million dead thanks to the anti-God regimes over the past 100 years. Over 20 million dead thanks to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany. The track record of Godless leaders is pretty abysmal in recent history. Society without God does not evolve, it appears to devolve. Great news huh?
Let's cut the chase: you are convinced that there is no God. Without a shread of scientific evidence, you claim there is no God. When asked where did everything come from, you'll provide scientific theories until you run out of those and then you'll provide scientific hypothesis until you run out of those. Eventually, you get to, "I don't know, but it wasn't God." When asked how you know it wasn't God, you'll offer ,b>nothing but your own belief. And at that point, you're explanation is worse than that of believers, because you offer nothing. It keeps happening on this board over and over again in thread after thread because, in the end, all you offer is nothing.
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> It's quite clear that believers are the types of
> people that can't get the big picture, because
> they lack sufficient mental bandwidth.
>
> Believers tend to ignore the contradictions and
> absurdity of the bible when taken in whole form.
>
> There are a lot of teachings in the bible that are
> not considered "Christian" today.
>
> Believers possess a very powerful ability to
> rationalize the contradictions and fallacies of
> their religion.
>
> The good news is that religious belief is dying
> out worldwide. As people advance in scientific
> understanding and education, they are discarding
> the beliefs of their primitive ancestors.
>
> Let science and reason be your guide. The truth
> will lead you to happiness and contentment.
Estimated 100 million dead thanks to the anti-God regimes over the past 100 years. Over 20 million dead thanks to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany. The track record of Godless leaders is pretty abysmal in recent history. Society without God does not evolve, it appears to devolve. Great news huh?
Let's cut the chase: you are convinced that there is no God. Without a shread of scientific evidence, you claim there is no God. When asked where did everything come from, you'll provide scientific theories until you run out of those and then you'll provide scientific hypothesis until you run out of those. Eventually, you get to, "I don't know, but it wasn't God." When asked how you know it wasn't God, you'll offer ,b>nothing but your own belief. And at that point, you're explanation is worse than that of believers, because you offer nothing. It keeps happening on this board over and over again in thread after thread because, in the end, all you offer is nothing.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 10, 2013 03:54PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You people are deluded.
>
> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
>
> The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods
> and all their cohorts.
>
> Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications
> point to the fact that these supreme beings are a
> product of some very good imaginations and story
> tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that
> they have ever existed other than in the minds of
> story tellers, religious leaders, and the
> believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on
> faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't
> claim facts based on faith.
>
> People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and
> myths to be true.
>
> Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods,
> but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist
> pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with
> atheism.
>
> Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
You seem to worship science. You cling to it just as some cling to their Bibles. Science is a way to explain or understand things. You put way to much faith in science as the end-all and be-all of everything. Only zealots think that. I've worked with radical scientists. They are frequently marginalized and as often as not, allow their zealotry to undermind their work. Just as you let your zealotry undermind your posts.
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> You people are deluded.
>
> If you don't believe in a God, then you don't
> believe in any of their cohorts such as the devil,
> angels, fairies, etc...
>
> The same applies to Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods
> and all their cohorts.
>
> Why don't atheist believe? Because all indications
> point to the fact that these supreme beings are a
> product of some very good imaginations and story
> tellers. And, there's no proof or evidence that
> they have ever existed other than in the minds of
> story tellers, religious leaders, and the
> believers or sheeple. Believers or sheepls rely on
> faith as opposed to proof or evidence. You can't
> claim facts based on faith.
>
> People, i.e. sheeple, believe theses stories and
> myths to be true.
>
> Buddhists may or may not believe in a god or gods,
> but it isn't required of a buddhist. Some buddhist
> pray to their icons. That isnt' consisent with
> atheism.
>
> Atheist don't pray or worship any mythical being.
You seem to worship science. You cling to it just as some cling to their Bibles. Science is a way to explain or understand things. You put way to much faith in science as the end-all and be-all of everything. Only zealots think that. I've worked with radical scientists. They are frequently marginalized and as often as not, allow their zealotry to undermind their work. Just as you let your zealotry undermind your posts.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 10, 2013 04:15PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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>
> > to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany.
Hitler claimed to be a catholic and referred to god in public speeches. If you want to see the absurdity and ugliness of human religion, WWII Germany is a good place to start. Hitler stoked the Middle Age fears and superstitions against Jews and was appeased by the Pope during the holocaust- the Vatican publicly wished Adolph Hitler a happy birthday every year he was in power. And even if Hitler was secretly an atheist, it's safe to assume that millions of religious Germans served duty in the Nazi war machine or turned a blind eye to the horrors committed against non-Christians.
WWII had nothing to do with lack the lack of belief in dieties.
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>
> > to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany.
Hitler claimed to be a catholic and referred to god in public speeches. If you want to see the absurdity and ugliness of human religion, WWII Germany is a good place to start. Hitler stoked the Middle Age fears and superstitions against Jews and was appeased by the Pope during the holocaust- the Vatican publicly wished Adolph Hitler a happy birthday every year he was in power. And even if Hitler was secretly an atheist, it's safe to assume that millions of religious Germans served duty in the Nazi war machine or turned a blind eye to the horrors committed against non-Christians.
WWII had nothing to do with lack the lack of belief in dieties.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 10, 2013 04:48PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > > to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany.
>
> Hitler claimed to be a catholic and referred to
> god in public speeches. If you want to see the
> absurdity and ugliness of human religion, WWII
> Germany is a good place to start. Hitler stoked
> the Middle Age fears and superstitions against
> Jews and was appeased by the Pope during the
> holocaust- the Vatican publicly wished Adolph
> Hitler a happy birthday every year he was in
> power. And even if Hitler was secretly an
> atheist, it's safe to assume that millions of
> religious Germans served duty in the Nazi war
> machine or turned a blind eye to the horrors
> committed against non-Christians.
>
> WWII had nothing to do with lack the lack of
> belief in dieties.
Anyone can claim to be anything in public. Hitler believed in the occult and rejected Judeo-Christian doctrine. It is well understood by historians that Hilter's private views was that of an atheist who, at first used the Church to further his political goals and, after seizing power, showed disdain for Christianity and took over the churches in Nazi terroritories to ensure that they would become messengers of Nazi propaganda, especially the anti-Semetic themes. Hilter defined true Christianity as a theology founded by Jesus, an Aryan freedom fighter seeking to rid Israel of Jews.
Otherwise, your post indicates that you missed my point regardless.
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > > to the Godless Nazi regime of Germany.
>
> Hitler claimed to be a catholic and referred to
> god in public speeches. If you want to see the
> absurdity and ugliness of human religion, WWII
> Germany is a good place to start. Hitler stoked
> the Middle Age fears and superstitions against
> Jews and was appeased by the Pope during the
> holocaust- the Vatican publicly wished Adolph
> Hitler a happy birthday every year he was in
> power. And even if Hitler was secretly an
> atheist, it's safe to assume that millions of
> religious Germans served duty in the Nazi war
> machine or turned a blind eye to the horrors
> committed against non-Christians.
>
> WWII had nothing to do with lack the lack of
> belief in dieties.
Anyone can claim to be anything in public. Hitler believed in the occult and rejected Judeo-Christian doctrine. It is well understood by historians that Hilter's private views was that of an atheist who, at first used the Church to further his political goals and, after seizing power, showed disdain for Christianity and took over the churches in Nazi terroritories to ensure that they would become messengers of Nazi propaganda, especially the anti-Semetic themes. Hilter defined true Christianity as a theology founded by Jesus, an Aryan freedom fighter seeking to rid Israel of Jews.
Otherwise, your post indicates that you missed my point regardless.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: April 10, 2013 05:01PM
Regardless of how stupid, dopey and superstitious many religious folks are- religion is a threat to centralized governments.
The Bolsheviks in Russia and the Anarchists/Communists in the Spanish Civil War are great examples of those who tried to elevate belief in government as the highest moral plane. To me that is far more of a threat to freewill than living around some suburban Ned Flanders who takes his kids to Sunday School.
If you ever talk to anyone who grew up in the USSR before 1990, it is pretty interesting the level of open hostility to religion. I don't oppose independent minds questioning the validity of faith, but when it comes from government, the motivations become obvious.
We are stuck with our homegrown dummies in America who believe in Jerry Falwell, Wicca and psychic hotlines. Why import a new set of dummies who believe in sharia law and female circumcision?
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The Bolsheviks in Russia and the Anarchists/Communists in the Spanish Civil War are great examples of those who tried to elevate belief in government as the highest moral plane. To me that is far more of a threat to freewill than living around some suburban Ned Flanders who takes his kids to Sunday School.
If you ever talk to anyone who grew up in the USSR before 1990, it is pretty interesting the level of open hostility to religion. I don't oppose independent minds questioning the validity of faith, but when it comes from government, the motivations become obvious.
We are stuck with our homegrown dummies in America who believe in Jerry Falwell, Wicca and psychic hotlines. Why import a new set of dummies who believe in sharia law and female circumcision?
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 10, 2013 05:55PM
Trying to blame wars and mass killings on atheism requies a selective memory of history. Many wars were fought over religious beliefs in addition to the normal reasons for conquest; land, wealth, resources, etc...
An atheist is not about killing or the absence of morals. It's just the lack of belief in a God or gods. Contrary to popular christian propaganda, human morals are not based on the bible. The bible merely memorializes natural human morals self evident to any society.
If fact, the bible establishes some very ruthless punishments for what we would consider nothing today; such as stoning a person for working on the sabbeth. You've got to be very selective when you base your moral code on the bible.
An atheist is not about killing or the absence of morals. It's just the lack of belief in a God or gods. Contrary to popular christian propaganda, human morals are not based on the bible. The bible merely memorializes natural human morals self evident to any society.
If fact, the bible establishes some very ruthless punishments for what we would consider nothing today; such as stoning a person for working on the sabbeth. You've got to be very selective when you base your moral code on the bible.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: April 10, 2013 06:02PM
Government neutrality about religion is one thing, government MANDATED atheism is something else.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
lightshine
()
Date: April 10, 2013 06:06PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Government neutrality about religion is one thing,
> government MANDATED atheism is something else.
In the original game of Clue, "Mr. Green" was actually called "Reverend Green". The name was changed because they felt Americans would be upset at the idea of a priest being a murderer.
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> Government neutrality about religion is one thing,
> government MANDATED atheism is something else.
In the original game of Clue, "Mr. Green" was actually called "Reverend Green". The name was changed because they felt Americans would be upset at the idea of a priest being a murderer.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 10, 2013 06:41PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trying to blame wars and mass killings on atheism
> requies a selective memory of history. Many wars
> were fought over religious beliefs in addition to
> the normal reasons for conquest; land, wealth,
> resources, etc...
>
> An atheist is not about killing or the absence of
> morals. It's just the lack of belief in a God or
> gods. Contrary to popular christian propaganda,
> human morals are not based on the bible. The bible
> merely memorializes natural human morals self
> evident to any society.
>
> If fact, the bible establishes some very ruthless
> punishments for what we would consider nothing
> today; such as stoning a person for working on the
> sabbeth. You've got to be very selective when you
> base your moral code on the bible.
We've addressed the stoning issue. Please read the post above. It's clear on the issue.
The point is that Godless and anti-God societies have a horrendous record of "natural human morals". Rather than the utopia that you try and paint, Godlessness has led to decay, not renewal. America was at its peak in 1965. Since then, we've embraced secular humanism and seen our society fall apart. Almost ½ of the babies born today are born to single mothers. Poverty is at record numbers. Our economy is run one the dual engines of greed and envy. Deviant sexual behavior is not only embraced, it's now being encouraged. Drug use by minors is approaching record numbers. Our schools are failing to teach kids basic math, science or problem solving. Kids spend all day killing each other on TV screens in realistic video games until they more frail amongst us can no longer tell the difference between reality and "entertainment". Movies that would have hard R ratings 10 or 12 years ago are now PG as the courseness in our society grows.
You crow about how advanced we become the more we flee God. The evidence is totally opposite of that. It was the churches that led the last great cultural awakening in the US in the mid-1960's (Civil Rights).
1930's Germany showed us what human morals leads to. 1930's Russia showed us what human morals leads to. 1970's Cambodia showed us what human morals leads to. 1980's China showed us what human morals leads to. Where are these great Godless societies that you hold so highly? Nowhere.
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> Trying to blame wars and mass killings on atheism
> requies a selective memory of history. Many wars
> were fought over religious beliefs in addition to
> the normal reasons for conquest; land, wealth,
> resources, etc...
>
> An atheist is not about killing or the absence of
> morals. It's just the lack of belief in a God or
> gods. Contrary to popular christian propaganda,
> human morals are not based on the bible. The bible
> merely memorializes natural human morals self
> evident to any society.
>
> If fact, the bible establishes some very ruthless
> punishments for what we would consider nothing
> today; such as stoning a person for working on the
> sabbeth. You've got to be very selective when you
> base your moral code on the bible.
We've addressed the stoning issue. Please read the post above. It's clear on the issue.
The point is that Godless and anti-God societies have a horrendous record of "natural human morals". Rather than the utopia that you try and paint, Godlessness has led to decay, not renewal. America was at its peak in 1965. Since then, we've embraced secular humanism and seen our society fall apart. Almost ½ of the babies born today are born to single mothers. Poverty is at record numbers. Our economy is run one the dual engines of greed and envy. Deviant sexual behavior is not only embraced, it's now being encouraged. Drug use by minors is approaching record numbers. Our schools are failing to teach kids basic math, science or problem solving. Kids spend all day killing each other on TV screens in realistic video games until they more frail amongst us can no longer tell the difference between reality and "entertainment". Movies that would have hard R ratings 10 or 12 years ago are now PG as the courseness in our society grows.
You crow about how advanced we become the more we flee God. The evidence is totally opposite of that. It was the churches that led the last great cultural awakening in the US in the mid-1960's (Civil Rights).
1930's Germany showed us what human morals leads to. 1930's Russia showed us what human morals leads to. 1970's Cambodia showed us what human morals leads to. 1980's China showed us what human morals leads to. Where are these great Godless societies that you hold so highly? Nowhere.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 10, 2013 08:41PM
Does anyone see the disparity in the "proof" argument?
Theists believe in something they can't prove, then alter the entire course of their lives in response. They pray, they preach, they labor, they sacrifice, they condemn others, and they align themselves with a moral code, and they expect an infinite reward based on something for which they have no evidence.
Atheists have no evidence either, so they live their lives in a manner that just comes naturally to them.
Which reaction seems rational?
Theists believe in something they can't prove, then alter the entire course of their lives in response. They pray, they preach, they labor, they sacrifice, they condemn others, and they align themselves with a moral code, and they expect an infinite reward based on something for which they have no evidence.
Atheists have no evidence either, so they live their lives in a manner that just comes naturally to them.
Which reaction seems rational?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: April 10, 2013 08:51PM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> Atheists have no evidence either, so they live
> their lives in a manner that just comes naturally
> to them.
It's "natural" for atheists to harass and denigrate all people of faith?
Glad we got that cleared up.
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> Atheists have no evidence either, so they live
> their lives in a manner that just comes naturally
> to them.
It's "natural" for atheists to harass and denigrate all people of faith?
Glad we got that cleared up.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 10, 2013 09:22PM
I think it's the norm that Christians and other believers have despised atheists for the fact that they just refuse to believe in the big myth.
The atheist start all the big deadly wars, because they are godless argument is a big red herring. The prisons are full of Christians (to include preachers that murder their wives) and, Christians start unjustified wars as in the God loving George W Bush example. Death by stoning is biblical justice for disobeying the imaginary God. Other religions practice extreme justice as well even now. You can get your head or other body part cut off for minor offenses in the name of God.
Commie governments don't like any church, because they don't want another voice to influence the people and counter their propaganda. They don't like a free press either. It all makes sense if you're a dictator. They may tolerate the church, but certainly don't make them feel welcome.
The ranks of non-believers are growing as science advances and replaces shaman/church knowledge with scientific knowledge. Religion is becoming irrelevant.
Given time, people will discard the myths of their ancestors. The sun doesn't revolve around the flat earth any more.
The atheist start all the big deadly wars, because they are godless argument is a big red herring. The prisons are full of Christians (to include preachers that murder their wives) and, Christians start unjustified wars as in the God loving George W Bush example. Death by stoning is biblical justice for disobeying the imaginary God. Other religions practice extreme justice as well even now. You can get your head or other body part cut off for minor offenses in the name of God.
Commie governments don't like any church, because they don't want another voice to influence the people and counter their propaganda. They don't like a free press either. It all makes sense if you're a dictator. They may tolerate the church, but certainly don't make them feel welcome.
The ranks of non-believers are growing as science advances and replaces shaman/church knowledge with scientific knowledge. Religion is becoming irrelevant.
Given time, people will discard the myths of their ancestors. The sun doesn't revolve around the flat earth any more.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
KJV
()
Date: April 10, 2013 09:34PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> The atheist start all the big deadly wars, because
> they are godless argument is a big red herring.
People of faith often claim that the crimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the inevitable product of unbelief. The problem with fascism and communism, however, is not that they are too critical of religion; the problem is that they are too much like religions. Such regimes are dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to personality cults that are indistinguishable from cults of religious hero worship. Auschwitz, the gulag and the killing fields were not examples of what happens when human beings reject religious dogma; they are examples of political, racial and nationalistic dogma run amok. There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.
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> The atheist start all the big deadly wars, because
> they are godless argument is a big red herring.
People of faith often claim that the crimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the inevitable product of unbelief. The problem with fascism and communism, however, is not that they are too critical of religion; the problem is that they are too much like religions. Such regimes are dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to personality cults that are indistinguishable from cults of religious hero worship. Auschwitz, the gulag and the killing fields were not examples of what happens when human beings reject religious dogma; they are examples of political, racial and nationalistic dogma run amok. There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 10, 2013 10:35PM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Atheists have no evidence either, so they live
> > their lives in a manner that just comes
> naturally
> > to them.
>
> It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> denigrate all people of faith?
>
> Glad we got that cleared up.
No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's common for those with a religious leaning, whenever someone says anything that goes against their faith, to claim harassment.
"LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was a philosophical question. Instead of responding with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself, Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated. That doesn't reply to all believers, but the loudest ones (who usually have the least to say) tend to believe that they speak for all.
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Atheists have no evidence either, so they live
> > their lives in a manner that just comes
> naturally
> > to them.
>
> It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> denigrate all people of faith?
>
> Glad we got that cleared up.
No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's common for those with a religious leaning, whenever someone says anything that goes against their faith, to claim harassment.
"LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was a philosophical question. Instead of responding with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself, Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated. That doesn't reply to all believers, but the loudest ones (who usually have the least to say) tend to believe that they speak for all.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: April 10, 2013 10:36PM
lightshine Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
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> > Government neutrality about religion is one
> thing,
> > government MANDATED atheism is something else.
>
> In the original game of Clue, "Mr. Green" was
> actually called "Reverend Green". The name was
> changed because they felt Americans would be upset
> at the idea of a priest being a murderer.
That is an example of bowing to cultural tradition. The issue would be the level of the outcry.
"Tradition is Democracy of the Dead"
I think it was Nietzsche or some other quasi-fascist philosopher who said this, but it makes shitloads of sense.
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Government neutrality about religion is one
> thing,
> > government MANDATED atheism is something else.
>
> In the original game of Clue, "Mr. Green" was
> actually called "Reverend Green". The name was
> changed because they felt Americans would be upset
> at the idea of a priest being a murderer.
That is an example of bowing to cultural tradition. The issue would be the level of the outcry.
"Tradition is Democracy of the Dead"
I think it was Nietzsche or some other quasi-fascist philosopher who said this, but it makes shitloads of sense.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 11, 2013 12:25AM
What about the creationist? They are Christian extremist that attempt to degrade science education by attacking the well established theory of evolution in the interest of religious indoctrination of children.
Christians realize that scientific advances in our understanding of life and our environment are a threat to their notions of a Supreme Being, creator and designer of life and the universe. The understanding of evolution is essential to study of biology and advancement in the field of medicine.
You have the young earth creationists that believe the earth is only about six to ten thousand years old. They also believe that man and the dinosaurs coexisted for a time. ROFLMAO
I find Christians and believers to be very offensive to free thinkers, reason, and scientific advancement. Their defensive arguments are void of logic and facts. Are these the types of people you want educating the youth?
It’s well past the time that non-believers need to take a stand and put this nonsense in its place and recognize these believers for what they actually are as a threat to the advancements of science and medicine.
Christians realize that scientific advances in our understanding of life and our environment are a threat to their notions of a Supreme Being, creator and designer of life and the universe. The understanding of evolution is essential to study of biology and advancement in the field of medicine.
You have the young earth creationists that believe the earth is only about six to ten thousand years old. They also believe that man and the dinosaurs coexisted for a time. ROFLMAO
I find Christians and believers to be very offensive to free thinkers, reason, and scientific advancement. Their defensive arguments are void of logic and facts. Are these the types of people you want educating the youth?
It’s well past the time that non-believers need to take a stand and put this nonsense in its place and recognize these believers for what they actually are as a threat to the advancements of science and medicine.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:41AM
For those of you that claim the bible is the source of human morality, attached is a chart of biblical punishments for violations of the 10 commandments. I don't see how anyone could claim that the bible is a good standard for morality. It appears the "good book" prescribes, with a few exceptions, capital punishment for violations of eight of the Ten Commandments. Of course, modern day Christians "cherry pick" from the good book to claim that God loves you, but will punish you severely if you violate His Ten Commandments or don't worship Him at the level He determines is adequate in which case you will spend eternity in Hell. Hitler and Stalin appear to be compassionate dictators by biblical standards. Perhaps they were using the bible as a guide to being a God like dictator.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:16AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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>
> that the bible is a good standard for morality.
Religionists using the ten commandments as a basis for morality is a joke. There are only really 3 that address moral behavior; don't lie, don't steal, and don't murder.
You shall have no other gods before me, and don't take My name in vain. And don't covet- don't you even dare to think an envious thought or you'll be smited. It sounds like it was written by a very vain, jealous dictator and his thought-police.
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>
> that the bible is a good standard for morality.
Religionists using the ten commandments as a basis for morality is a joke. There are only really 3 that address moral behavior; don't lie, don't steal, and don't murder.
You shall have no other gods before me, and don't take My name in vain. And don't covet- don't you even dare to think an envious thought or you'll be smited. It sounds like it was written by a very vain, jealous dictator and his thought-police.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
BEH
()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:43AM
I don't get it.
All the goats in the city must be killed just because someone worshipped a rock?
God wants recognition, and yet is unavailable for advice or assistance?
God forgive us! We tend to recognize things we can see, feel or hear.
Excepting our delusional and hallucinating brothers and sisters, of course.
But they more likely to see snakes than to see Jesus!
All the goats in the city must be killed just because someone worshipped a rock?
God wants recognition, and yet is unavailable for advice or assistance?
God forgive us! We tend to recognize things we can see, feel or hear.
Excepting our delusional and hallucinating brothers and sisters, of course.
But they more likely to see snakes than to see Jesus!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 11, 2013 03:00PM
KJV Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > The atheist start all the big deadly wars,
> because
> > they are godless argument is a big red herring.
>
> People of faith often claim that the crimes of
> Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the
> inevitable product of unbelief. The problem with
> fascism and communism, however, is not that they
> are too critical of religion; the problem is that
> they are too much like religions. Such regimes are
> dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to
> personality cults that are indistinguishable from
> cults of religious hero worship. Auschwitz, the
> gulag and the killing fields were not examples of
> what happens when human beings reject religious
> dogma; they are examples of political, racial and
> nationalistic dogma run amok. There is no society
> in human history that ever suffered because its
> people became too reasonable.
I can't speak for what "people of faith often claim" and your observation wasn't my point anyway. My point is that, counter to the anti-Godists here who act like religion is the root of all evil, there is no evidence that any society that has rejected God has been any better than any society that has not. and recent history (past 100 years) shows that those anti-God societies are far worse. Human morality is tranisitory while Biblical morality is not (past the teachings of Jesus in the NT). And I suspect that is the problem a lot of God-deniers have with Him in the first place. No one likes to be judged.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > The atheist start all the big deadly wars,
> because
> > they are godless argument is a big red herring.
>
> People of faith often claim that the crimes of
> Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the
> inevitable product of unbelief. The problem with
> fascism and communism, however, is not that they
> are too critical of religion; the problem is that
> they are too much like religions. Such regimes are
> dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to
> personality cults that are indistinguishable from
> cults of religious hero worship. Auschwitz, the
> gulag and the killing fields were not examples of
> what happens when human beings reject religious
> dogma; they are examples of political, racial and
> nationalistic dogma run amok. There is no society
> in human history that ever suffered because its
> people became too reasonable.
I can't speak for what "people of faith often claim" and your observation wasn't my point anyway. My point is that, counter to the anti-Godists here who act like religion is the root of all evil, there is no evidence that any society that has rejected God has been any better than any society that has not. and recent history (past 100 years) shows that those anti-God societies are far worse. Human morality is tranisitory while Biblical morality is not (past the teachings of Jesus in the NT). And I suspect that is the problem a lot of God-deniers have with Him in the first place. No one likes to be judged.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 11, 2013 03:05PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> What about the creationist? They are Christian
> extremist that attempt to degrade science
> education by attacking the well established theory
> of evolution in the interest of religious
> indoctrination of children.
>
> Christians realize that scientific advances in our
> understanding of life and our environment are a
> threat to their notions of a Supreme Being,
> creator and designer of life and the universe. The
> understanding of evolution is essential to study
> of biology and advancement in the field of
> medicine.
>
> You have the young earth creationists that believe
> the earth is only about six to ten thousand years
> old. They also believe that man and the dinosaurs
> coexisted for a time. ROFLMAO
>
> I find Christians and believers to be very
> offensive to free thinkers, reason, and scientific
> advancement. Their defensive arguments are void of
> logic and facts. Are these the types of people you
> want educating the youth?
>
> It’s well past the time that non-believers need
> to take a stand and put this nonsense in its place
> and recognize these believers for what they
> actually are as a threat to the advancements of
> science and medicine.
You are truly a bain to real science. Look at your words. Offended by what someone thinks? You spout science as if that equates to logic. You don't seem to know what logic is. Your posts are often emotional, and almost never logical. That is typical of the acolytes of the religion of science. True scientists shudder at people like that.
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> What about the creationist? They are Christian
> extremist that attempt to degrade science
> education by attacking the well established theory
> of evolution in the interest of religious
> indoctrination of children.
>
> Christians realize that scientific advances in our
> understanding of life and our environment are a
> threat to their notions of a Supreme Being,
> creator and designer of life and the universe. The
> understanding of evolution is essential to study
> of biology and advancement in the field of
> medicine.
>
> You have the young earth creationists that believe
> the earth is only about six to ten thousand years
> old. They also believe that man and the dinosaurs
> coexisted for a time. ROFLMAO
>
> I find Christians and believers to be very
> offensive to free thinkers, reason, and scientific
> advancement. Their defensive arguments are void of
> logic and facts. Are these the types of people you
> want educating the youth?
>
> It’s well past the time that non-believers need
> to take a stand and put this nonsense in its place
> and recognize these believers for what they
> actually are as a threat to the advancements of
> science and medicine.
You are truly a bain to real science. Look at your words. Offended by what someone thinks? You spout science as if that equates to logic. You don't seem to know what logic is. Your posts are often emotional, and almost never logical. That is typical of the acolytes of the religion of science. True scientists shudder at people like that.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 11, 2013 03:09PM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> live
> > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > naturally
> > > to them.
> >
> > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > denigrate all people of faith?
> >
> > Glad we got that cleared up.
>
> No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's
> common for those with a religious leaning,
> whenever someone says anything that goes against
> their faith, to claim harassment.
>
> "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was
> a philosophical question. Instead of responding
> with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> loudest ones (who usually have the least to say)
> tend to believe that they speak for all.
A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views on the majority is no less oppressive than the other way around. And that is what we have now - a radical minority that has seized control of our educational system and much of the media, trying to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great US decline.
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> live
> > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > naturally
> > > to them.
> >
> > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > denigrate all people of faith?
> >
> > Glad we got that cleared up.
>
> No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's
> common for those with a religious leaning,
> whenever someone says anything that goes against
> their faith, to claim harassment.
>
> "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was
> a philosophical question. Instead of responding
> with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> loudest ones (who usually have the least to say)
> tend to believe that they speak for all.
A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views on the majority is no less oppressive than the other way around. And that is what we have now - a radical minority that has seized control of our educational system and much of the media, trying to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great US decline.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
You Said It!
()
Date: April 11, 2013 06:04PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views
> on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> other way around. And that is what we have now -
> a radical minority that has seized control of our
> educational system and much of the media, trying
> to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's
> 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great
> US decline.
Yes... we need to have Constitutional protection from Science!
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> A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views
> on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> other way around. And that is what we have now -
> a radical minority that has seized control of our
> educational system and much of the media, trying
> to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's
> 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great
> US decline.
Yes... we need to have Constitutional protection from Science!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
What Do You Want?
()
Date: April 11, 2013 06:47PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vexxxed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > live
> > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > naturally
> > > > to them.
> > >
> > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > >
> > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> >
> > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> it's
> > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > whenever someone says anything that goes
> against
> > their faith, to claim harassment.
> >
> > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine
> was
> > a philosophical question. Instead of
> responding
> > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> say)
> > tend to believe that they speak for all.
>
>
> A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views
> on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> other way around. And that is what we have now -
> a radical minority that has seized control of our
> educational system and much of the media, trying
> to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's
> 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great
> US decline.
Is your complaint in the fact that most school systems don't teach creationism, or that they won't sponsor prayers?
I'm all for teaching ALL of the ideas because I think it's good to actually understand other cultures rather than picking it up second-hand from ignorants, but you folks will get your panties in a wad as soon as someone wants to give all of the religious theories equal time.
In fact, I'm sure you'll get all pissy as soon as they refer to your god as a theory, so maybe it's best to teach that at home?
I know I'm being a touch sarcastic right now, but really, I would genuinely like to understand what is that you're asking for, and how you feel that you've been slighted. I'll venture to guess that it doesn't include faiths other than your own.
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vexxxed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > live
> > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > naturally
> > > > to them.
> > >
> > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > >
> > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> >
> > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> it's
> > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > whenever someone says anything that goes
> against
> > their faith, to claim harassment.
> >
> > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine
> was
> > a philosophical question. Instead of
> responding
> > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> say)
> > tend to believe that they speak for all.
>
>
> A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their views
> on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> other way around. And that is what we have now -
> a radical minority that has seized control of our
> educational system and much of the media, trying
> to shout down and marginalize the majority. It's
> 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great
> US decline.
Is your complaint in the fact that most school systems don't teach creationism, or that they won't sponsor prayers?
I'm all for teaching ALL of the ideas because I think it's good to actually understand other cultures rather than picking it up second-hand from ignorants, but you folks will get your panties in a wad as soon as someone wants to give all of the religious theories equal time.
In fact, I'm sure you'll get all pissy as soon as they refer to your god as a theory, so maybe it's best to teach that at home?
I know I'm being a touch sarcastic right now, but really, I would genuinely like to understand what is that you're asking for, and how you feel that you've been slighted. I'll venture to guess that it doesn't include faiths other than your own.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:16PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> For those of you that claim the bible is the
> source of human morality, attached is a chart of
> biblical punishments for violations of the 10
> commandments. I don't see how anyone could claim
> that the bible is a good standard for morality. It
> appears the "good book" prescribes, with a few
> exceptions, capital punishment for violations of
> eight of the Ten Commandments. Of course, modern
> day Christians "cherry pick" from the good book to
> claim that God loves you, but will punish you
> severely if you violate His Ten Commandments or
> don't worship Him at the level He determines is
> adequate in which case you will spend eternity in
> Hell. Hitler and Stalin appear to be compassionate
> dictators by biblical standards. Perhaps they were
> using the bible as a guide to being a God like
> dictator.
Actually, modern day Christians continuously pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to follow the commandments and live a good life." You don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish tradition provides for human fallibility.
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> For those of you that claim the bible is the
> source of human morality, attached is a chart of
> biblical punishments for violations of the 10
> commandments. I don't see how anyone could claim
> that the bible is a good standard for morality. It
> appears the "good book" prescribes, with a few
> exceptions, capital punishment for violations of
> eight of the Ten Commandments. Of course, modern
> day Christians "cherry pick" from the good book to
> claim that God loves you, but will punish you
> severely if you violate His Ten Commandments or
> don't worship Him at the level He determines is
> adequate in which case you will spend eternity in
> Hell. Hitler and Stalin appear to be compassionate
> dictators by biblical standards. Perhaps they were
> using the bible as a guide to being a God like
> dictator.
Actually, modern day Christians continuously pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to follow the commandments and live a good life." You don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish tradition provides for human fallibility.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
YC Is Right
()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:22PM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Actually, modern day Christians continuously
> pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow
> the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to
> follow the commandments and live a good life." You
> don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In
> fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish
> tradition provides for human fallibility.
Yeah, and we know how much respect Christians tend to show the Jews. (Overly broad statement, I know, but the vocal ones seem to set the tone.)
You're absolutely right, though... a lot of people don't realize that their Hell is only 2,000 years old. For many years, I wondered what sense it made that all of the Cavement were damned.
But, it all depends upon who you talk to. Many sects of Christianity profess that a good life doesn't count for anything if you don't accept Jesus as your savior, and Baptists add the whole dip-in-the-water requirement, too.
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> Actually, modern day Christians continuously
> pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow
> the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to
> follow the commandments and live a good life." You
> don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In
> fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish
> tradition provides for human fallibility.
Yeah, and we know how much respect Christians tend to show the Jews. (Overly broad statement, I know, but the vocal ones seem to set the tone.)
You're absolutely right, though... a lot of people don't realize that their Hell is only 2,000 years old. For many years, I wondered what sense it made that all of the Cavement were damned.
But, it all depends upon who you talk to. Many sects of Christianity profess that a good life doesn't count for anything if you don't accept Jesus as your savior, and Baptists add the whole dip-in-the-water requirement, too.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:30PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> The point is that Godless and anti-God societies
> have a horrendous record of "natural human
> morals". Rather than the utopia that you try and
> paint, Godlessness has led to decay, not renewal.
> America was at its peak in 1965. Since then,
> we've embraced secular humanism and seen our
> society fall apart. Almost ½ of the babies born
> today are born to single mothers. Poverty is at
> record numbers. Our economy is run one the dual
> engines of greed and envy. Deviant sexual
> behavior is not only embraced, it's now being
> encouraged. Drug use by minors is approaching
> record numbers. Our schools are failing to teach
> kids basic math, science or problem solving. Kids
> spend all day killing each other on TV screens in
> realistic video games until they more frail
> amongst us can no longer tell the difference
> between reality and "entertainment". Movies that
> would have hard R ratings 10 or 12 years ago are
> now PG as the courseness in our society grows.
>
> You crow about how advanced we become the more we
> flee God. The evidence is totally opposite of
> that. It was the churches that led the last great
> cultural awakening in the US in the mid-1960's
> (Civil Rights).
>
> 1930's Germany showed us what human morals leads
> to. 1930's Russia showed us what human morals
> leads to. 1970's Cambodia showed us what human
> morals leads to. 1980's China showed us what
> human morals leads to. Where are these great
> Godless societies that you hold so highly?
> Nowhere.
Being an atheist doesn't mean you are pro-gay-rights or gay marriage. There are Christian faggots as well as anti-gay atheists.
The facts about Germany are that a Christian nation, 1930s and 40s Germany, unleashed the greatest war machine in the history of the world. Yes, most of the members of the German armed forces, the ones who prosecuted the war and committed the atrocities were good Christians. The Christian religion was not out lawed in Germany. Christians don't like Jews, because they claim that it was the Jews that killed Jesus. I don't think many Christians were supporting the Jewish people in NAZI Germany. I would even go as far to say that NAZI Germany was more Christian than present day America.
Do you think fear of an imaginary God or belief in acient myths keeps people in line? I think the capital punishments for violation of certain provisions of the Ten Commandments probably had something to do with the early Christian consolidation of the religious market. There's nothing like the treat of death to aid in the control of hearts and minds.
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> The point is that Godless and anti-God societies
> have a horrendous record of "natural human
> morals". Rather than the utopia that you try and
> paint, Godlessness has led to decay, not renewal.
> America was at its peak in 1965. Since then,
> we've embraced secular humanism and seen our
> society fall apart. Almost ½ of the babies born
> today are born to single mothers. Poverty is at
> record numbers. Our economy is run one the dual
> engines of greed and envy. Deviant sexual
> behavior is not only embraced, it's now being
> encouraged. Drug use by minors is approaching
> record numbers. Our schools are failing to teach
> kids basic math, science or problem solving. Kids
> spend all day killing each other on TV screens in
> realistic video games until they more frail
> amongst us can no longer tell the difference
> between reality and "entertainment". Movies that
> would have hard R ratings 10 or 12 years ago are
> now PG as the courseness in our society grows.
>
> You crow about how advanced we become the more we
> flee God. The evidence is totally opposite of
> that. It was the churches that led the last great
> cultural awakening in the US in the mid-1960's
> (Civil Rights).
>
> 1930's Germany showed us what human morals leads
> to. 1930's Russia showed us what human morals
> leads to. 1970's Cambodia showed us what human
> morals leads to. 1980's China showed us what
> human morals leads to. Where are these great
> Godless societies that you hold so highly?
> Nowhere.
Being an atheist doesn't mean you are pro-gay-rights or gay marriage. There are Christian faggots as well as anti-gay atheists.
The facts about Germany are that a Christian nation, 1930s and 40s Germany, unleashed the greatest war machine in the history of the world. Yes, most of the members of the German armed forces, the ones who prosecuted the war and committed the atrocities were good Christians. The Christian religion was not out lawed in Germany. Christians don't like Jews, because they claim that it was the Jews that killed Jesus. I don't think many Christians were supporting the Jewish people in NAZI Germany. I would even go as far to say that NAZI Germany was more Christian than present day America.
Do you think fear of an imaginary God or belief in acient myths keeps people in line? I think the capital punishments for violation of certain provisions of the Ten Commandments probably had something to do with the early Christian consolidation of the religious market. There's nothing like the treat of death to aid in the control of hearts and minds.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Young Curmudgeon
()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:12PM
YC Is Right Wrote:
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> But, it all depends upon who you talk to. Many
> sects of Christianity profess that a good life
> doesn't count for anything if you don't accept
> Jesus as your savior, and Baptists add the whole
> dip-in-the-water requirement, too.
The issue with a lot of these "born-again" Christians is the complete ignorance of WHAT type of life a person leads. For example, how in the hell does a serial killer who accepts Jesus get into Heaven, but a Jew who has spent his entire life teaching people God's ways get damned?
God gave us brains for a reason, people. Use them and expose evangelicals for the frauds they are.
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> But, it all depends upon who you talk to. Many
> sects of Christianity profess that a good life
> doesn't count for anything if you don't accept
> Jesus as your savior, and Baptists add the whole
> dip-in-the-water requirement, too.
The issue with a lot of these "born-again" Christians is the complete ignorance of WHAT type of life a person leads. For example, how in the hell does a serial killer who accepts Jesus get into Heaven, but a Jew who has spent his entire life teaching people God's ways get damned?
God gave us brains for a reason, people. Use them and expose evangelicals for the frauds they are.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
AKA
()
Date: April 11, 2013 11:05PM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> It's 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great US decline.
also known as "the year Trooth grew bitter about life and became an old codger".
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> It's 1969 all over again - the beginning of the great US decline.
also known as "the year Trooth grew bitter about life and became an old codger".
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Confused
()
Date: April 11, 2013 11:12PM
I disagree with him on more things than not, but Young Curmudgeon actually seems to have his shit together here.
I might have to start reading his posts again.
I might have to start reading his posts again.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 05:18AM
The truth is powerful and cannot be suppressed for long. In the end, the truth prevails.
That fact is why atheism is on the rise, or religion is on the decline. People have had time to reflect on the absurdity and contradictions of their Christian teachings.
The fact that a Bronze Age book of myths, with dated values and harsh punishments would form the foundation of a religion, accepted by many in modern times is surprising, yet telling that people haven’t changed that much in the last two thousand years. Perhaps it will take evolution a bit more time for humans to develop a population with more people who think like atheist; people with more powerful analysis skills.
As people slowly note that religious claims are refuted by science, they realize that their religious beliefs are not based on the truth. And, if religious beliefs are fallible, then they shouldn't be the types of beliefs that you live by. To live a good life, you need to seek the truth and live the truth.
There are a few studies that indicate a correlation between intelligence and propensity for religious beliefs. Not surprisingly, high propensity for religion is linked with lower values of intelligence. The converse is true as well; high values of intelligence is link to low propensity towards religious beliefs and activities. A survey of highly regarded scientists finds an almost exclusive group of atheists.
So, if you are weak minded you tend to rely on religious beliefs for strength. If you are strong minded, you don't need a crutch to live life to its fullest.
That fact is why atheism is on the rise, or religion is on the decline. People have had time to reflect on the absurdity and contradictions of their Christian teachings.
The fact that a Bronze Age book of myths, with dated values and harsh punishments would form the foundation of a religion, accepted by many in modern times is surprising, yet telling that people haven’t changed that much in the last two thousand years. Perhaps it will take evolution a bit more time for humans to develop a population with more people who think like atheist; people with more powerful analysis skills.
As people slowly note that religious claims are refuted by science, they realize that their religious beliefs are not based on the truth. And, if religious beliefs are fallible, then they shouldn't be the types of beliefs that you live by. To live a good life, you need to seek the truth and live the truth.
There are a few studies that indicate a correlation between intelligence and propensity for religious beliefs. Not surprisingly, high propensity for religion is linked with lower values of intelligence. The converse is true as well; high values of intelligence is link to low propensity towards religious beliefs and activities. A survey of highly regarded scientists finds an almost exclusive group of atheists.
So, if you are weak minded you tend to rely on religious beliefs for strength. If you are strong minded, you don't need a crutch to live life to its fullest.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: April 12, 2013 05:48AM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> live
> > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > naturally
> > > to them.
> >
> > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > denigrate all people of faith?
> >
> > Glad we got that cleared up.
>
> No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's
> common for those with a religious leaning,
> whenever someone says anything that goes against
> their faith, to claim harassment.
>
> "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was
> a philosophical question. Instead of responding
> with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> loudest ones (who usually have the least to say)
> tend to believe that they speak for all.
1. You were speaking for "all", not me.
2. LackOfFaith has offered nothing but criticism towards all believers in this thread, using the stance that they are the true authority of what is accurate and what isn't.
3. Everyone has their own belief of what is and isn't in this world. What I believe is of no consequence to anyone else but me. However, I've never felt the need to grand stand on a public forum and enlighten the masses as to how stupid they are. Which brings me to a question for all. What are you afraid of? If there is no god, why all the fear of he which does not exist?
4. Anything you may or may not have had to add to this discussion became null and void as soon as you referred to me as being someone I'm not.
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> Vexxxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> live
> > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > naturally
> > > to them.
> >
> > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > denigrate all people of faith?
> >
> > Glad we got that cleared up.
>
> No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand, it's
> common for those with a religious leaning,
> whenever someone says anything that goes against
> their faith, to claim harassment.
>
> "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine was
> a philosophical question. Instead of responding
> with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> loudest ones (who usually have the least to say)
> tend to believe that they speak for all.
1. You were speaking for "all", not me.
2. LackOfFaith has offered nothing but criticism towards all believers in this thread, using the stance that they are the true authority of what is accurate and what isn't.
3. Everyone has their own belief of what is and isn't in this world. What I believe is of no consequence to anyone else but me. However, I've never felt the need to grand stand on a public forum and enlighten the masses as to how stupid they are. Which brings me to a question for all. What are you afraid of? If there is no god, why all the fear of he which does not exist?
4. Anything you may or may not have had to add to this discussion became null and void as soon as you referred to me as being someone I'm not.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 06:38AM
There are three categories of people.
1. Those that possess the intelligence to come to the correct answer on their own.
2. Those that need assistance to come to the correct answer.
3. Those that lack the intelligence to understand the correct answer, even with assistance.
To which group do you belong?
1. Those that possess the intelligence to come to the correct answer on their own.
2. Those that need assistance to come to the correct answer.
3. Those that lack the intelligence to understand the correct answer, even with assistance.
To which group do you belong?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: April 12, 2013 06:51AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> There are three categories of people.
>
> 1. Those that possess the intelligence to come to
> the correct answer on their own.
>
> 2. Those that need assistance to come to the
> correct answer.
>
> 3. Those that lack the intelligence to understand
> the correct answer, even with assistance.
>
> To which group do you belong?
4. Those that graduated from high school/college a long time ago and actually have to live in the real world.
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> There are three categories of people.
>
> 1. Those that possess the intelligence to come to
> the correct answer on their own.
>
> 2. Those that need assistance to come to the
> correct answer.
>
> 3. Those that lack the intelligence to understand
> the correct answer, even with assistance.
>
> To which group do you belong?
4. Those that graduated from high school/college a long time ago and actually have to live in the real world.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 06:52AM
What Do You Want? Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Vexxxed Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > > live
> > > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > > naturally
> > > > > to them.
> > > >
> > > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > > >
> > > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> > >
> > > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> > it's
> > > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > > whenever someone says anything that goes
> > against
> > > their faith, to claim harassment.
> > >
> > > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but
> mine
> > was
> > > a philosophical question. Instead of
> > responding
> > > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
>
> > > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> > say)
> > > tend to believe that they speak for all.
> >
> >
> > A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their
> views
> > on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> > other way around. And that is what we have now
> -
> > a radical minority that has seized control of
> our
> > educational system and much of the media,
> trying
> > to shout down and marginalize the majority.
> It's
> > 1969 all over again - the beginning of the
> great
> > US decline.
>
> Is your complaint in the fact that most school
> systems don't teach creationism, or that they
> won't sponsor prayers?
>
> I'm all for teaching ALL of the ideas because I
> think it's good to actually understand other
> cultures rather than picking it up second-hand
> from ignorants, but you folks will get your
> panties in a wad as soon as someone wants to give
> all of the religious theories equal time.
>
> In fact, I'm sure you'll get all pissy as soon as
> they refer to your god as a theory, so maybe it's
> best to teach that at home?
>
> I know I'm being a touch sarcastic right now, but
> really, I would genuinely like to understand what
> is that you're asking for, and how you feel that
> you've been slighted. I'll venture to guess that
> it doesn't include faiths other than your own.
Atheists are offended at the slightest mention of God. They are the ones who "get all prissy". whining, and then suing because someone might pray at an event that they're attending.
Your post is full of assumptions and hyperbole, sprinkled with the typical condesending attitude of rabid anti-Godists. Atheists are entitled to their opinions. They are entitled to express their opinions. But they are only opinions and it drives them nuts when someone points that fact out and has a different opinion (in general). The opinions and rights of an atheist are no more valid or worthy of consideration by society than someone who belives in and worships God. I don't care what you believe. I don't neccessarily think someone is smarter or dumber if you do or don't believe in God. There is a God and there are sound and solid logical arguments to support that position. There is no scientific evidence to support the position that God does not exist, yet anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Vexxxed Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > > live
> > > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > > naturally
> > > > > to them.
> > > >
> > > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > > >
> > > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> > >
> > > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> > it's
> > > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > > whenever someone says anything that goes
> > against
> > > their faith, to claim harassment.
> > >
> > > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but
> mine
> > was
> > > a philosophical question. Instead of
> > responding
> > > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
>
> > > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> > say)
> > > tend to believe that they speak for all.
> >
> >
> > A vocal, radicalized minority forcing their
> views
> > on the majority is no less oppressive than the
> > other way around. And that is what we have now
> -
> > a radical minority that has seized control of
> our
> > educational system and much of the media,
> trying
> > to shout down and marginalize the majority.
> It's
> > 1969 all over again - the beginning of the
> great
> > US decline.
>
> Is your complaint in the fact that most school
> systems don't teach creationism, or that they
> won't sponsor prayers?
>
> I'm all for teaching ALL of the ideas because I
> think it's good to actually understand other
> cultures rather than picking it up second-hand
> from ignorants, but you folks will get your
> panties in a wad as soon as someone wants to give
> all of the religious theories equal time.
>
> In fact, I'm sure you'll get all pissy as soon as
> they refer to your god as a theory, so maybe it's
> best to teach that at home?
>
> I know I'm being a touch sarcastic right now, but
> really, I would genuinely like to understand what
> is that you're asking for, and how you feel that
> you've been slighted. I'll venture to guess that
> it doesn't include faiths other than your own.
Atheists are offended at the slightest mention of God. They are the ones who "get all prissy". whining, and then suing because someone might pray at an event that they're attending.
Your post is full of assumptions and hyperbole, sprinkled with the typical condesending attitude of rabid anti-Godists. Atheists are entitled to their opinions. They are entitled to express their opinions. But they are only opinions and it drives them nuts when someone points that fact out and has a different opinion (in general). The opinions and rights of an atheist are no more valid or worthy of consideration by society than someone who belives in and worships God. I don't care what you believe. I don't neccessarily think someone is smarter or dumber if you do or don't believe in God. There is a God and there are sound and solid logical arguments to support that position. There is no scientific evidence to support the position that God does not exist, yet anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:00AM
Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those of you that claim the bible is the
> > source of human morality, attached is a chart
> of
> > biblical punishments for violations of the 10
> > commandments. I don't see how anyone could
> claim
> > that the bible is a good standard for morality.
> It
> > appears the "good book" prescribes, with a few
> > exceptions, capital punishment for violations
> of
> > eight of the Ten Commandments. Of course,
> modern
> > day Christians "cherry pick" from the good book
> to
> > claim that God loves you, but will punish you
> > severely if you violate His Ten Commandments or
> > don't worship Him at the level He determines is
> > adequate in which case you will spend eternity
> in
> > Hell. Hitler and Stalin appear to be
> compassionate
> > dictators by biblical standards. Perhaps they
> were
> > using the bible as a guide to being a God like
> > dictator.
>
> Actually, modern day Christians continuously
> pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow
> the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to
> follow the commandments and live a good life." You
> don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In
> fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish
> tradition provides for human fallibility.
Actually, modern day (and all who came before) Christians don't believe that you have to follow the 10 commandments or go to hell. You do have to be saved through Jesus to be get into Heaven. Being saved through Jesus means becoming a disciple of his teachings, asking Him to intervene and to try to live a Christ-centered life. You are grossly mistaking what Christianity is all about. Unfortunately, so do many "Christians". There is no religion more accommodating of human fallibilities.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those of you that claim the bible is the
> > source of human morality, attached is a chart
> of
> > biblical punishments for violations of the 10
> > commandments. I don't see how anyone could
> claim
> > that the bible is a good standard for morality.
> It
> > appears the "good book" prescribes, with a few
> > exceptions, capital punishment for violations
> of
> > eight of the Ten Commandments. Of course,
> modern
> > day Christians "cherry pick" from the good book
> to
> > claim that God loves you, but will punish you
> > severely if you violate His Ten Commandments or
> > don't worship Him at the level He determines is
> > adequate in which case you will spend eternity
> in
> > Hell. Hitler and Stalin appear to be
> compassionate
> > dictators by biblical standards. Perhaps they
> were
> > using the bible as a guide to being a God like
> > dictator.
>
> Actually, modern day Christians continuously
> pervert the meaning of the Bible. It's not "follow
> the commandments or go to hell." It's "TRY to
> follow the commandments and live a good life." You
> don't have to believe in Jesus to be saved. In
> fact, Judaism doesn't believe in hell. Jewish
> tradition provides for human fallibility.
Actually, modern day (and all who came before) Christians don't believe that you have to follow the 10 commandments or go to hell. You do have to be saved through Jesus to be get into Heaven. Being saved through Jesus means becoming a disciple of his teachings, asking Him to intervene and to try to live a Christ-centered life. You are grossly mistaking what Christianity is all about. Unfortunately, so do many "Christians". There is no religion more accommodating of human fallibilities.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:26AM
You can believe in God, gods, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, fairies (tooth & others), angels (guardian & Charlie's), Elvis is alive, etc..., but you must acknowledge that that belief is based on faith alone and faith is not proof of anything being real. Faith without proof or evidence is nothing more than a hunch. A lot of hunches are wrong.
If you don't believe in God or gods, then you are an atheist. That is a very logical position to take, because even the Pope acknowledges that there is no proof of God. Anyone that claims proof is a liar. Anyone that claims the existences of God, because no one can prove he doesn’t exist is a fool not intelligent enough to even have a conversation with. The argument that you can’t prove something doesn’t exist is a logic fallacy. No proof of a crime equals no crime. It’s as simple as that.
If you have intelligence, practice reason, and demand proof, then you are the best example of the culmination of billions of years of evolution.
The link between intelligence and religion is well established. A high level of intelligence leads to a low inclination towards religious beliefs. A low level of intelligence leads to a high inclination towards religious beliefs and predication in cults.
Being aware of the intelligence-religion relationship may be enough to cause some people in the middle of the bell curve to wake up and strive to move to the rights side of the curve.
Enjoy life people, because there is no God and Elvis is dead.
If you don't believe in God or gods, then you are an atheist. That is a very logical position to take, because even the Pope acknowledges that there is no proof of God. Anyone that claims proof is a liar. Anyone that claims the existences of God, because no one can prove he doesn’t exist is a fool not intelligent enough to even have a conversation with. The argument that you can’t prove something doesn’t exist is a logic fallacy. No proof of a crime equals no crime. It’s as simple as that.
If you have intelligence, practice reason, and demand proof, then you are the best example of the culmination of billions of years of evolution.
The link between intelligence and religion is well established. A high level of intelligence leads to a low inclination towards religious beliefs. A low level of intelligence leads to a high inclination towards religious beliefs and predication in cults.
Being aware of the intelligence-religion relationship may be enough to cause some people in the middle of the bell curve to wake up and strive to move to the rights side of the curve.
Enjoy life people, because there is no God and Elvis is dead.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
grecophile
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:40AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that Zeus does not exist.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that Zeus does not exist.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
A Haunting Glimpse
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:43AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that ghosts do not exist.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that ghosts do not exist.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Big John Studd
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:44AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that pro-wrestling isn't real.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no scientific evidence to
> support the position that God does not exist, yet
> anti-Godists somehow believe that there is.
There is no scientific evidence to support the position that pro-wrestling isn't real.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:46AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The truth is powerful and cannot be suppressed for
> long. In the end, the truth prevails.
>
> That fact is why atheism is on the rise, or
> religion is on the decline. People have had time
> to reflect on the absurdity and contradictions of
> their Christian teachings.
>
> The fact that a Bronze Age book of myths, with
> dated values and harsh punishments would form the
> foundation of a religion, accepted by many in
> modern times is surprising, yet telling that
> people haven’t changed that much in the last two
> thousand years. Perhaps it will take evolution a
> bit more time for humans to develop a population
> with more people who think like atheist; people
> with more powerful analysis skills.
>
> As people slowly note that religious claims are
> refuted by science, they realize that their
> religious beliefs are not based on the truth. And,
> if religious beliefs are fallible, then they
> shouldn't be the types of beliefs that you live
> by. To live a good life, you need to seek the
> truth and live the truth.
>
> There are a few studies that indicate a
> correlation between intelligence and propensity
> for religious beliefs. Not surprisingly, high
> propensity for religion is linked with lower
> values of intelligence. The converse is true as
> well; high values of intelligence is link to low
> propensity towards religious beliefs and
> activities. A survey of highly regarded scientists
> finds an almost exclusive group of atheists.
>
> So, if you are weak minded you tend to rely on
> religious beliefs for strength. If you are strong
> minded, you don't need a crutch to live life to
> its fullest.
And yet Islam is on the rise and evangelical churches have growing numbers, not declining. Facts are, once again, not on your side.
Your misunderstanding on religion is apparent. The enlightenment and self-awareness that one achieves by knowing God is awesome. Your self-absorbed sense of superiority demonstrates a complete lack of self-awareness or enlightment but does show a possibility of Asbergers.
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> The truth is powerful and cannot be suppressed for
> long. In the end, the truth prevails.
>
> That fact is why atheism is on the rise, or
> religion is on the decline. People have had time
> to reflect on the absurdity and contradictions of
> their Christian teachings.
>
> The fact that a Bronze Age book of myths, with
> dated values and harsh punishments would form the
> foundation of a religion, accepted by many in
> modern times is surprising, yet telling that
> people haven’t changed that much in the last two
> thousand years. Perhaps it will take evolution a
> bit more time for humans to develop a population
> with more people who think like atheist; people
> with more powerful analysis skills.
>
> As people slowly note that religious claims are
> refuted by science, they realize that their
> religious beliefs are not based on the truth. And,
> if religious beliefs are fallible, then they
> shouldn't be the types of beliefs that you live
> by. To live a good life, you need to seek the
> truth and live the truth.
>
> There are a few studies that indicate a
> correlation between intelligence and propensity
> for religious beliefs. Not surprisingly, high
> propensity for religion is linked with lower
> values of intelligence. The converse is true as
> well; high values of intelligence is link to low
> propensity towards religious beliefs and
> activities. A survey of highly regarded scientists
> finds an almost exclusive group of atheists.
>
> So, if you are weak minded you tend to rely on
> religious beliefs for strength. If you are strong
> minded, you don't need a crutch to live life to
> its fullest.
And yet Islam is on the rise and evangelical churches have growing numbers, not declining. Facts are, once again, not on your side.
Your misunderstanding on religion is apparent. The enlightenment and self-awareness that one achieves by knowing God is awesome. Your self-absorbed sense of superiority demonstrates a complete lack of self-awareness or enlightment but does show a possibility of Asbergers.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:55AM
Vexxxed Wrote:
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vexxxed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > live
> > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > naturally
> > > > to them.
> > >
> > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > >
> > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> >
> > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> it's
> > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > whenever someone says anything that goes
> against
> > their faith, to claim harassment.
> >
> > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine
> was
> > a philosophical question. Instead of
> responding
> > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> say)
> > tend to believe that they speak for all.
>
>
> 1. You were speaking for "all", not me.
How so?
> 2. LackOfFaith has offered nothing but criticism
> towards all believers in this thread, using the
> stance that they are the true authority of what is
> accurate and what isn't.
Agreed.
> 3. Everyone has their own belief of what is and
> isn't in this world. What I believe is of no
> consequence to anyone else but me. However, I've
> never felt the need to grand stand on a public
> forum and enlighten the masses as to how stupid
> they are. Which brings me to a question for all.
> What are you afraid of? If there is no god, why
> all the fear of he which does not exist?
Where's the fear? The only fear I have is of the mindless mob. But what you right is ironic, since it's exactly what you are doing.
> 4. Anything you may or may not have had to add to
> this discussion became null and void as soon as
> you referred to me as being someone I'm not.
For you perhaps... your views are selectively myopic, so that would fit. But it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong. I should not have done that. I think you're an ass with little to actually say, but that was a poor reaction on my part.
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vexxxed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Invalid Dino Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Atheists have no evidence either, so they
> > live
> > > > their lives in a manner that just comes
> > > naturally
> > > > to them.
> > >
> > > It's "natural" for atheists to harass and
> > > denigrate all people of faith?
> > >
> > > Glad we got that cleared up.
> >
> > No Mr. Wales, it's not. On the other hand,
> it's
> > common for those with a religious leaning,
> > whenever someone says anything that goes
> against
> > their faith, to claim harassment.
> >
> > "LackOfFaith" is a bit of a standout, but mine
> was
> > a philosophical question. Instead of
> responding
> > with a thoughtful reply, folks like yourself,
> > Gregory, scream that they're being denigrated.
> > That doesn't reply to all believers, but the
> > loudest ones (who usually have the least to
> say)
> > tend to believe that they speak for all.
>
>
> 1. You were speaking for "all", not me.
How so?
> 2. LackOfFaith has offered nothing but criticism
> towards all believers in this thread, using the
> stance that they are the true authority of what is
> accurate and what isn't.
Agreed.
> 3. Everyone has their own belief of what is and
> isn't in this world. What I believe is of no
> consequence to anyone else but me. However, I've
> never felt the need to grand stand on a public
> forum and enlighten the masses as to how stupid
> they are. Which brings me to a question for all.
> What are you afraid of? If there is no god, why
> all the fear of he which does not exist?
Where's the fear? The only fear I have is of the mindless mob. But what you right is ironic, since it's exactly what you are doing.
> 4. Anything you may or may not have had to add to
> this discussion became null and void as soon as
> you referred to me as being someone I'm not.
For you perhaps... your views are selectively myopic, so that would fit. But it doesn't matter if it was right or wrong. I should not have done that. I think you're an ass with little to actually say, but that was a poor reaction on my part.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 07:58AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You can believe in God, gods, Santa Claus, Easter
> Bunny, fairies (tooth & others), angels (guardian
> & Charlie's), Elvis is alive, etc..., but you must
> acknowledge that that belief is based on faith
> alone and faith is not proof of anything being
> real. Faith without proof or evidence is nothing
> more than a hunch. A lot of hunches are wrong.
>
> If you don't believe in God or gods, then you are
> an atheist. That is a very logical position to
> take, because even the Pope acknowledges that
> there is no proof of God. Anyone that claims proof
> is a liar. Anyone that claims the existences of
> God, because no one can prove he doesn’t exist
> is a fool not intelligent enough to even have a
> conversation with. The argument that you can’t
> prove something doesn’t exist is a logic
> fallacy. No proof of a crime equals no crime.
> It’s as simple as that.
>
> If you have intelligence, practice reason, and
> demand proof, then you are the best example of the
> culmination of billions of years of evolution.
>
> The link between intelligence and religion is well
> established. A high level of intelligence leads to
> a low inclination towards religious beliefs. A low
> level of intelligence leads to a high inclination
> towards religious beliefs and predication in
> cults.
>
> Being aware of the intelligence-religion
> relationship may be enough to cause some people in
> the middle of the bell curve to wake up and strive
> to move to the rights side of the curve.
>
> Enjoy life people, because there is no God and
> Elvis is dead.
Proof is misleading. There is little absolute proofs. But, for the sake of this discussion, I'll use it. There is scientific proof, emperical proof and logical proof. There is little scientific proof that God exists, more emperical proof that He exists and strong logical proof that He exists. You inability to realize that scientific proof is not the only proof, coupled with your demonstrated lack of true scientific curiosity or understanding are a couple of the reasons why you just keep repeating the same things over and over again as if this time will be the one that makes it true.
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> You can believe in God, gods, Santa Claus, Easter
> Bunny, fairies (tooth & others), angels (guardian
> & Charlie's), Elvis is alive, etc..., but you must
> acknowledge that that belief is based on faith
> alone and faith is not proof of anything being
> real. Faith without proof or evidence is nothing
> more than a hunch. A lot of hunches are wrong.
>
> If you don't believe in God or gods, then you are
> an atheist. That is a very logical position to
> take, because even the Pope acknowledges that
> there is no proof of God. Anyone that claims proof
> is a liar. Anyone that claims the existences of
> God, because no one can prove he doesn’t exist
> is a fool not intelligent enough to even have a
> conversation with. The argument that you can’t
> prove something doesn’t exist is a logic
> fallacy. No proof of a crime equals no crime.
> It’s as simple as that.
>
> If you have intelligence, practice reason, and
> demand proof, then you are the best example of the
> culmination of billions of years of evolution.
>
> The link between intelligence and religion is well
> established. A high level of intelligence leads to
> a low inclination towards religious beliefs. A low
> level of intelligence leads to a high inclination
> towards religious beliefs and predication in
> cults.
>
> Being aware of the intelligence-religion
> relationship may be enough to cause some people in
> the middle of the bell curve to wake up and strive
> to move to the rights side of the curve.
>
> Enjoy life people, because there is no God and
> Elvis is dead.
Proof is misleading. There is little absolute proofs. But, for the sake of this discussion, I'll use it. There is scientific proof, emperical proof and logical proof. There is little scientific proof that God exists, more emperical proof that He exists and strong logical proof that He exists. You inability to realize that scientific proof is not the only proof, coupled with your demonstrated lack of true scientific curiosity or understanding are a couple of the reasons why you just keep repeating the same things over and over again as if this time will be the one that makes it true.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 08:09AM
It exists, it's true and it's a fact, but proof and evidence of existence don't exist is an example of claims that lack credibility.
Don't fall into the credibility gap; acknowledge that truth needs proof.
Faith is a tool of the weak minded in their struggle to survive a hostile world. Faith doesn't require truth, facts, proof or evidence, so it's an easy position to take. Take the harder right over the easier wrong.
God is a myth and you know it's a myth. Enjoy life and seek the truth in all your endeavors.
Don't fall into the credibility gap; acknowledge that truth needs proof.
Faith is a tool of the weak minded in their struggle to survive a hostile world. Faith doesn't require truth, facts, proof or evidence, so it's an easy position to take. Take the harder right over the easier wrong.
God is a myth and you know it's a myth. Enjoy life and seek the truth in all your endeavors.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 08:22AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It exists, it's true and it's a fact, but proof
> and evidence of existence don't exist is an
> example of claims that lack credibility.
>
> Don't fall into the credibility gap; acknowledge
> that truth needs proof.
>
> Faith is a tool of the weak minded in their
> struggle to survive a hostile world. Faith doesn't
> require truth, facts, proof or evidence, so it's
> an easy position to take. Take the harder right
> over the easier wrong.
>
> God is a myth and you know it's a myth. Enjoy life
> and seek the truth in all your endeavors.
You don't argue that God doesn't exist. You argue that faith should not exist. And you keep making the same "argument" over and over and over again. I'll become more selective in my responses going forward until you come up with some new material....
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> It exists, it's true and it's a fact, but proof
> and evidence of existence don't exist is an
> example of claims that lack credibility.
>
> Don't fall into the credibility gap; acknowledge
> that truth needs proof.
>
> Faith is a tool of the weak minded in their
> struggle to survive a hostile world. Faith doesn't
> require truth, facts, proof or evidence, so it's
> an easy position to take. Take the harder right
> over the easier wrong.
>
> God is a myth and you know it's a myth. Enjoy life
> and seek the truth in all your endeavors.
You don't argue that God doesn't exist. You argue that faith should not exist. And you keep making the same "argument" over and over and over again. I'll become more selective in my responses going forward until you come up with some new material....
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Jesus is Magic
()
Date: April 12, 2013 08:52AM
Faith exists just like magic exists. It's real if you choose to believe in it but neither stand up to any reasonable scrutiny.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 12, 2013 09:18AM
I think it's totally logical that god created the universe in less than a week, then waited 13 billion years to reveal himself to a tribal society of sheep herders in some barely literate part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so he could be born as a human being who dies but miraculously comes back to life- all documented by people a few centuries later- how can't you believe this?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 10:14AM
Jesus is Magic Wrote:
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> Faith exists just like magic exists. It's real if
> you choose to believe in it but neither stand up
> to any reasonable scrutiny.
You don't know the defition of faith if you think it's the same thing as magic. Faith can be used for things other than religion.
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> Faith exists just like magic exists. It's real if
> you choose to believe in it but neither stand up
> to any reasonable scrutiny.
You don't know the defition of faith if you think it's the same thing as magic. Faith can be used for things other than religion.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 12, 2013 10:17AM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
"A few centuries later"? Uninformed and believing (i.e. having faith in) the lies that you're being sold. Gee, you sound just like a religious zealot. Not unexpected based on your previous posts.
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
"A few centuries later"? Uninformed and believing (i.e. having faith in) the lies that you're being sold. Gee, you sound just like a religious zealot. Not unexpected based on your previous posts.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: April 12, 2013 10:39AM
> "A few centuries later"? Uninformed and believing (i.e. having faith in) the
> lies that you're being sold. Gee, you sound just like a religious zealot.
> Not unexpected based on your previous posts.
It was a reference to the Council of Nicaea, where alot of the early stories and disputes about Jesus were settled and officially recognized as "reality".
> lies that you're being sold. Gee, you sound just like a religious zealot.
> Not unexpected based on your previous posts.
It was a reference to the Council of Nicaea, where alot of the early stories and disputes about Jesus were settled and officially recognized as "reality".
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Theology
()
Date: April 12, 2013 11:08AM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
Yep, as opposed to the complete logic of the entire matter of the universe existing in a super-compressed sphere the size of a ping-pong ball surrounded by infinite nothing. This ball, by force created by itself, exploded, creating the entire universe in self generating perpetual motion. Some of this matter then decided to stop and start forming black holes by creating phenomena such as gravity and magnetism (by itself of course) which allowed galaxies to form, then stars and finally planets. And then somehow, cells formed on some of these planets and the cells began to reproduce, most probably because they got struck by lightening, which, instead of burning them up, made them start dividing or form reproducing organella. Then these cells, through pure luck (or chance, which is the different side of the same coin), evolved into self contained bodies with differntial organs. Then, some of these bodies became plants, some animals and some just hung around as their stupid old single celled selves. Then the plants evovled into different types of plants, for no apparent reason. So did the animals. And then, just by chance and completely logically, some of the animals (and ironically, the ones with the least biological advantage) evolved into self-aware humaniods. What's not to believe?
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
Yep, as opposed to the complete logic of the entire matter of the universe existing in a super-compressed sphere the size of a ping-pong ball surrounded by infinite nothing. This ball, by force created by itself, exploded, creating the entire universe in self generating perpetual motion. Some of this matter then decided to stop and start forming black holes by creating phenomena such as gravity and magnetism (by itself of course) which allowed galaxies to form, then stars and finally planets. And then somehow, cells formed on some of these planets and the cells began to reproduce, most probably because they got struck by lightening, which, instead of burning them up, made them start dividing or form reproducing organella. Then these cells, through pure luck (or chance, which is the different side of the same coin), evolved into self contained bodies with differntial organs. Then, some of these bodies became plants, some animals and some just hung around as their stupid old single celled selves. Then the plants evovled into different types of plants, for no apparent reason. So did the animals. And then, just by chance and completely logically, some of the animals (and ironically, the ones with the least biological advantage) evolved into self-aware humaniods. What's not to believe?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
BEH
()
Date: April 12, 2013 01:28PM
Certainly , the origin of the universe is a mystery , and probably beyond human comprehension.
Not sure if a robed, bearded man in the sky fighting a red dude with horns down below is a good explaination, but its a step above the more primitive theories , like the sun god , or is it?
Things have been added since the first draft, like promises of eternal life, and assurances that an unseen, unheard spirit is watching your back.
Considering that no one has ever really seen this deity , or actually spoken to him face to face , it all seems like a lot of guessing, specualation and wishful thinking.
Perhaps the big bang theory doesn't appear to be really solid, but it sure beats the magical man and the guarentee of bliss forever.
Not sure if a robed, bearded man in the sky fighting a red dude with horns down below is a good explaination, but its a step above the more primitive theories , like the sun god , or is it?
Things have been added since the first draft, like promises of eternal life, and assurances that an unseen, unheard spirit is watching your back.
Considering that no one has ever really seen this deity , or actually spoken to him face to face , it all seems like a lot of guessing, specualation and wishful thinking.
Perhaps the big bang theory doesn't appear to be really solid, but it sure beats the magical man and the guarentee of bliss forever.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 04:55PM
If people were actually aware of how the gospels were written, where the stories came from, how the conflicting versions were reconciled, and who were the men that made all the decisions, I don't think they would be accepted by your typical believer of today's standards.
The fact that most of myths were created before recorded history tends to give them some credibility in the minds of current day believers.
One major clue in the lack of a God is the fact that unless you got the word by word of mouth, you didn't get the word. If there was a real God, He would make his presents known to tribes on isolated islands thousands of miles from the Middle East. That didn't happen.
Before you buy some feel good storybook of myths, do an investigation of the origin of the documents and myths that purport to defy present day reality.
Just wonder how the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians felt when their Gods were dismissed as myths. The time for the Jewish and Christian God is coming as well. Further advancements in science, communication and education will put all these God myths in the proper perspective.
Everyone really knows it’s a myth. Treat it like a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no afterlife.
The fact that most of myths were created before recorded history tends to give them some credibility in the minds of current day believers.
One major clue in the lack of a God is the fact that unless you got the word by word of mouth, you didn't get the word. If there was a real God, He would make his presents known to tribes on isolated islands thousands of miles from the Middle East. That didn't happen.
Before you buy some feel good storybook of myths, do an investigation of the origin of the documents and myths that purport to defy present day reality.
Just wonder how the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians felt when their Gods were dismissed as myths. The time for the Jewish and Christian God is coming as well. Further advancements in science, communication and education will put all these God myths in the proper perspective.
Everyone really knows it’s a myth. Treat it like a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no afterlife.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Get It Right
()
Date: April 12, 2013 08:45PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
Nobody believes that. The Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
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> I think it's totally logical that god created the
> universe in less than a week, then waited 13
> billion years to reveal himself to a tribal
> society of sheep herders in some barely literate
> part of the middle east. Impregnating a virgin so
> he could be born as a human being who dies but
> miraculously comes back to life- all documented by
> people a few centuries later- how can't you
> believe this?
Nobody believes that. The Earth is less than 10,000 years old.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 12, 2013 10:25PM
Just like all myths, the God myth is based on lies, half-truths, etc...
Biblical scholars acknowledge this fact.
Most believers are either unaware or prefer to overlook the discrepancies. At least science publishes theories for critical review and refutation with proof or evidence. Science is a system of theory, experiment, discovery, debate, consensus, verification and validation.
If you seek the truth, don't want to live a lie, and you're not gullible, then you are an atheist.
The preponderance of the evidence points the fact that man created God. So, enjoy life, because there is no afterlife. This is it and you r life, no matter how miserable it may seem, is as good as it gets. Some people find comfort in the belief that what they are suffering in their present life, will be completely absent in their afterlife. Perhaps that thought will help them cope, but the joke is on them, by the authors of the Gospels that knew they were lying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/the-bible-telling-lies-to_b_840301.html
Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters
Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible actually contains lies?
Biblical scholars acknowledge this fact.
Most believers are either unaware or prefer to overlook the discrepancies. At least science publishes theories for critical review and refutation with proof or evidence. Science is a system of theory, experiment, discovery, debate, consensus, verification and validation.
If you seek the truth, don't want to live a lie, and you're not gullible, then you are an atheist.
The preponderance of the evidence points the fact that man created God. So, enjoy life, because there is no afterlife. This is it and you r life, no matter how miserable it may seem, is as good as it gets. Some people find comfort in the belief that what they are suffering in their present life, will be completely absent in their afterlife. Perhaps that thought will help them cope, but the joke is on them, by the authors of the Gospels that knew they were lying.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/the-bible-telling-lies-to_b_840301.html
Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters
Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible actually contains lies?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
question bruh
()
Date: April 12, 2013 11:22PM
How old is the earth according to the bible?
How would you know?
How would you know?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
The answer is here
()
Date: April 12, 2013 11:49PM
question bruh Wrote:
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> How old is the earth according to the bible?
> How would you know?
http://creationmuseum.org
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> How old is the earth according to the bible?
> How would you know?
http://creationmuseum.org
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 01:18AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> Proof is misleading. There is little absolute
> proofs. But, for the sake of this discussion,
> I'll use it. There is scientific proof, emperical
> proof and logical proof. There is little
> scientific proof that God exists, more emperical
> proof that He exists and strong logical proof that
> He exists. You inability to realize that
> scientific proof is not the only proof, coupled
> with your demonstrated lack of true scientific
> curiosity or understanding are a couple of the
> reasons why you just keep repeating the same
> things over and over again as if this time
> will be the one that makes it true.
There is no proof of any kind that a God exists. That is why believers rely on faith. Faith is belief without proof.
Contrary to your assertions:
There is no scientific proof that God exists!
There is no emperical proof that God exists!
There is no logical proof that God exists!
The catholic church won't even go out on that limb.
If there was any proof, the believers wouldn't have to rely on faith.
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> Proof is misleading. There is little absolute
> proofs. But, for the sake of this discussion,
> I'll use it. There is scientific proof, emperical
> proof and logical proof. There is little
> scientific proof that God exists, more emperical
> proof that He exists and strong logical proof that
> He exists. You inability to realize that
> scientific proof is not the only proof, coupled
> with your demonstrated lack of true scientific
> curiosity or understanding are a couple of the
> reasons why you just keep repeating the same
> things over and over again as if this time
> will be the one that makes it true.
There is no proof of any kind that a God exists. That is why believers rely on faith. Faith is belief without proof.
Contrary to your assertions:
There is no scientific proof that God exists!
There is no emperical proof that God exists!
There is no logical proof that God exists!
The catholic church won't even go out on that limb.
If there was any proof, the believers wouldn't have to rely on faith.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
You Know Nothing
()
Date: April 13, 2013 01:29AM
Listen to me
I know things. I'm a fucking genius.
My mother told me this; so did my day care worker.
I know things. I'm a fucking genius.
My mother told me this; so did my day care worker.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 03:02AM
You Know Nothing Wrote:
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> Listen to me
> I know things. I'm a fucking genius.
>
> My mother told me this; so did my day care worker.
Wow, I could be wrong.
Nobody ever told me that I was fucking genius.
I don't think I'm a fucking genius. Therefore, you must be smarter than me.
Did your mother or your day care worker have any proof that you're a fucking genius, or are they relying on faith?
If they are relying on faith that you are a fucking genius, then it may not be true, because they lack proof. If it may not be true, then you may not be smarter than me and I may not be wrong.
I don't think I'm wrong, because I haven't seen any proof of God, nor am I aware of anyone knowing of any proof of God.
In the absence of proof, I think the safe answer is that there isn't a God. Also, all available information points to the fact that man created God with his imagination in an attempt to explain the unexplainable. However, advancements in science have shown that many of the early religious claims have been proven wrong by science which casts doubt on religious claims in general, because religious claims are not infallible. A general result of which is that without proof, the claim cannot be considered valid and if the claim cannot be considered valid, then it is false. Therefore, until some verifiable proof of a God is produced, the claim that there is a God is false. QED
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> Listen to me
> I know things. I'm a fucking genius.
>
> My mother told me this; so did my day care worker.
Wow, I could be wrong.
Nobody ever told me that I was fucking genius.
I don't think I'm a fucking genius. Therefore, you must be smarter than me.
Did your mother or your day care worker have any proof that you're a fucking genius, or are they relying on faith?
If they are relying on faith that you are a fucking genius, then it may not be true, because they lack proof. If it may not be true, then you may not be smarter than me and I may not be wrong.
I don't think I'm wrong, because I haven't seen any proof of God, nor am I aware of anyone knowing of any proof of God.
In the absence of proof, I think the safe answer is that there isn't a God. Also, all available information points to the fact that man created God with his imagination in an attempt to explain the unexplainable. However, advancements in science have shown that many of the early religious claims have been proven wrong by science which casts doubt on religious claims in general, because religious claims are not infallible. A general result of which is that without proof, the claim cannot be considered valid and if the claim cannot be considered valid, then it is false. Therefore, until some verifiable proof of a God is produced, the claim that there is a God is false. QED
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Glass Half Full
()
Date: April 13, 2013 03:04AM
I'm starting to think that the greatest thing about this thread is that it's keeping "LackOfFaith" occupied and off the streets.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 04:32AM
Glass Half Full Wrote:
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> I'm starting to think that the greatest thing
> about this thread is that it's keeping
> "LackOfFaith" occupied and off the streets.
Actually, it doesn't take much to respond to the pro-myth crowd.
The creationists do more, in the eyes of the masses, to discredit the existence of a God than I ever will.
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> I'm starting to think that the greatest thing
> about this thread is that it's keeping
> "LackOfFaith" occupied and off the streets.
Actually, it doesn't take much to respond to the pro-myth crowd.
The creationists do more, in the eyes of the masses, to discredit the existence of a God than I ever will.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Glass Half Full
()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:27AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Glass Half Full Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm starting to think that the greatest thing
> > about this thread is that it's keeping
> > "LackOfFaith" occupied and off the streets.
>
> Actually, it doesn't take much to respond to the
> pro-myth crowd.
>
> The creationists do more, in the eyes of the
> masses, to discredit the existence of a God than I
> ever will.
That actually qualifies as "dialog". I was wondering if most of your posts weren't just copied and pasted from other places, since they seem to show little indication that you're reading and thinking.
In some ways, I think you might be right about Creationists discrediting religion as a whole, and I'll be thinking about that; but in other ways, I don't think they have any effect. We look at them and say "those guys are ignoring actual evidence, and plow forward with their convictions anyway", but don't people of other religions tend to view them just as a secular Jew would view an Orthodox one? More like "those guys are too extreme/literal/etc" and just discount them immediately?
For example, I stopped believing in the Bible long before I stopped believing in God. But when I spoke with other believers, I was told that the Bible was full of allegory and tales, but that they were written to teach lessons just the same. Today, I know of almost nobody who thinks that "Noah's Ark" is a literal story, but those same people have no trouble holding up the book as the word of God.
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> Glass Half Full Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm starting to think that the greatest thing
> > about this thread is that it's keeping
> > "LackOfFaith" occupied and off the streets.
>
> Actually, it doesn't take much to respond to the
> pro-myth crowd.
>
> The creationists do more, in the eyes of the
> masses, to discredit the existence of a God than I
> ever will.
That actually qualifies as "dialog". I was wondering if most of your posts weren't just copied and pasted from other places, since they seem to show little indication that you're reading and thinking.
In some ways, I think you might be right about Creationists discrediting religion as a whole, and I'll be thinking about that; but in other ways, I don't think they have any effect. We look at them and say "those guys are ignoring actual evidence, and plow forward with their convictions anyway", but don't people of other religions tend to view them just as a secular Jew would view an Orthodox one? More like "those guys are too extreme/literal/etc" and just discount them immediately?
For example, I stopped believing in the Bible long before I stopped believing in God. But when I spoke with other believers, I was told that the Bible was full of allegory and tales, but that they were written to teach lessons just the same. Today, I know of almost nobody who thinks that "Noah's Ark" is a literal story, but those same people have no trouble holding up the book as the word of God.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 09:00AM
Believers are masters at rationalization, revision, and child abuse. If you drill a myth into a child from an early age, it will likely become ingrained to such an extent that unless that child has a powerful intellect, that myth will become truth and reality. The Catholics are masters of this cult like behavior with their school system that extends from kindergarten through college.
However, I have to give the Catholic Church credit in that they don't take the creationist's approach to science. At least the Catholic Church has decided to accept the truth of science as in evolution, stem cells, etc... The Catholic Church doesn't rely on the bible as many redneck Christians and creationists do with a fanatical literal interpretation. I think the Catholics are more scholarly as well. They have the resources and will continue to have the resources if they can clean up their pedophile issue to avoid any more huge legal settlement payouts.
From my observations and reading, an old myth or lie becomes truth and fact after it has sufficiently aged. That's when anyone anywhere close to the people that fabricated these myths and tales is long gone. The Christian religion is very fragmented. A number of the fragments are small, but can trace their existence back to the early Christian period.
What I find most amusing is that atheists, in general, have a better understanding of the history of the Christian religion than most believers and certainly most creationists. They seem to have limited their study to the bible which doesn't provide any perspective on the history of the religion.
However, I have to give the Catholic Church credit in that they don't take the creationist's approach to science. At least the Catholic Church has decided to accept the truth of science as in evolution, stem cells, etc... The Catholic Church doesn't rely on the bible as many redneck Christians and creationists do with a fanatical literal interpretation. I think the Catholics are more scholarly as well. They have the resources and will continue to have the resources if they can clean up their pedophile issue to avoid any more huge legal settlement payouts.
From my observations and reading, an old myth or lie becomes truth and fact after it has sufficiently aged. That's when anyone anywhere close to the people that fabricated these myths and tales is long gone. The Christian religion is very fragmented. A number of the fragments are small, but can trace their existence back to the early Christian period.
What I find most amusing is that atheists, in general, have a better understanding of the history of the Christian religion than most believers and certainly most creationists. They seem to have limited their study to the bible which doesn't provide any perspective on the history of the religion.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackaLife
()
Date: April 13, 2013 09:22AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Blah, blah, blah
My question is a bit more procedural: what kind of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting every 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a discussion with himself? When the fuck do you sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the Dunn Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have tons in common. You may lack faith but you also lack a life.
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> Blah, blah, blah
My question is a bit more procedural: what kind of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting every 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a discussion with himself? When the fuck do you sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the Dunn Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have tons in common. You may lack faith but you also lack a life.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 09:54AM
LackaLife Wrote:
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> My question is a bit more procedural: what kind
> of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting every
> 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the Dunn
> Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> tons in common. You may lack faith but you also
> lack a life.
Hahahahahahah,
My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a life dude.
Find another thread where you can go off topic.
Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on your facts.
Typical believer tactic when they can't take the heat; change the subject.
PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
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> My question is a bit more procedural: what kind
> of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting every
> 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the Dunn
> Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> tons in common. You may lack faith but you also
> lack a life.
Hahahahahahah,
My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a life dude.
Find another thread where you can go off topic.
Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on your facts.
Typical believer tactic when they can't take the heat; change the subject.
PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackaLife
()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:10AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> LackaLife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My question is a bit more procedural: what
> kind
> > of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting
> every
> > 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> > discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> > sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the
> Dunn
> > Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> > tons in common. You may lack faith but you
> also
> > lack a life.
>
> Hahahahahahah,
>
> My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck
> monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a
> life dude.
>
> Find another thread where you can go off topic.
>
> Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on
> your facts.
>
> Typical believer tactic when they can't take the
> heat; change the subject.
>
> PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
>
> Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately
> insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
Hey shit for brains, I just scanned this page and can see you post every couple of hours, probably responding to another of your anon posts. And you keep posting the same shit over and over.
PS - Just 'incase' you didn't know:
Fucking Troll: a loser who's entire existence revolves around posting useless and/or argumentative crap on the Internet to make up for their lack of a life (see LackofFaith as example).
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> LackaLife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My question is a bit more procedural: what
> kind
> > of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting
> every
> > 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> > discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> > sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the
> Dunn
> > Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> > tons in common. You may lack faith but you
> also
> > lack a life.
>
> Hahahahahahah,
>
> My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck
> monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a
> life dude.
>
> Find another thread where you can go off topic.
>
> Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on
> your facts.
>
> Typical believer tactic when they can't take the
> heat; change the subject.
>
> PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
>
> Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately
> insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
Hey shit for brains, I just scanned this page and can see you post every couple of hours, probably responding to another of your anon posts. And you keep posting the same shit over and over.
PS - Just 'incase' you didn't know:
Fucking Troll: a loser who's entire existence revolves around posting useless and/or argumentative crap on the Internet to make up for their lack of a life (see LackofFaith as example).
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackaLife
()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:16AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> LackaLife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My question is a bit more procedural: what
> kind
> > of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting
> every
> > 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> > discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> > sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the
> Dunn
> > Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> > tons in common. You may lack faith but you
> also
> > lack a life.
>
> Hahahahahahah,
>
> My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck
> monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a
> life dude.
>
> Find another thread where you can go off topic.
>
> Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on
> your facts.
>
> Typical believer tactic when they can't take the
> heat; change the subject.
>
> PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
>
> Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately
> insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
PSS I'm not a 'believer" asshole. I don't give a shit one way or the other about what anyone believes about this kind of crap. I just pointed out the scientific fact that you're a fucking troll who posts every couple of hours on a thread starting yesterday afternoon and continue righ up till now. That's fucking whacky no matter how much you bitch and whine. Now carry on with your trolling. It's there for everyone to see.
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> LackaLife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My question is a bit more procedural: what
> kind
> > of asshole sits here 24 hours a day, posting
> every
> > 3 hours on a topic that has "evolved" into a
> > discussion with himself? When the fuck do you
> > sleep? Obsess much? Why don't you join the
> Dunn
> > Loring Metro thread. You and that poster have
> > tons in common. You may lack faith but you
> also
> > lack a life.
>
> Hahahahahahah,
>
> My advice to you is the same. What kind of schmuck
> monitors and tracks all the posters on FFU. Get a
> life dude.
>
> Find another thread where you can go off topic.
>
> Also, you need to quit exaggerating and work on
> your facts.
>
> Typical believer tactic when they can't take the
> heat; change the subject.
>
> PS – Just incase you didn’t know:
>
> Schmuck: a highly offensive term that deliberately
> insults somebody’s personal worth (slang insult)
PSS I'm not a 'believer" asshole. I don't give a shit one way or the other about what anyone believes about this kind of crap. I just pointed out the scientific fact that you're a fucking troll who posts every couple of hours on a thread starting yesterday afternoon and continue righ up till now. That's fucking whacky no matter how much you bitch and whine. Now carry on with your trolling. It's there for everyone to see.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:20AM
What's the matter LackaLife? Are all the gay bars closed?
Go downtown where I hear they have 24-hour bars for your type.
Hahahahahahahahahahahha
Go downtown where I hear they have 24-hour bars for your type.
Hahahahahahahahahahahha
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackaLife
()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:49AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> What's the matter LackaLife? Are all the gay bars
> closed?
>
> Go downtown where I hear they have 24-hour bars
> for your type.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahha
Ewww, that a good one dickwad. 4 minutes for a response. Yeah, you have a life alright.
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> What's the matter LackaLife? Are all the gay bars
> closed?
>
> Go downtown where I hear they have 24-hour bars
> for your type.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahha
Ewww, that a good one dickwad. 4 minutes for a response. Yeah, you have a life alright.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 13, 2013 12:46PM
Cute video with a lot of pink. I think that confirms the type of bars you fit into.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackaLife
()
Date: April 13, 2013 06:21PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Cute video with a lot of pink. I think that
> confirms the type of bars you fit into.
You even repeat your shitty comebacks. "Your gay". What are you, 14? It probably killed you to have to wait a couple hours to post didn't it? What a douche.
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> Cute video with a lot of pink. I think that
> confirms the type of bars you fit into.
You even repeat your shitty comebacks. "Your gay". What are you, 14? It probably killed you to have to wait a couple hours to post didn't it? What a douche.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 13, 2013 07:39PM
LOL...
I've seen much more engaging discussions than this one completely derailed by homophobia before.
At least we found one philosophy that LackOfFaith can share with many of those he's denouncing, though it's curious: given a firm belief in science, I'd expect him to subscribe the idea that roughly 10% are just born with that variation, and that it's neither contagious nor threatening - unless you've served time, or happen to find yourself being ass-pounded by a bunch of queers.
My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was raped by priests.
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I've seen much more engaging discussions than this one completely derailed by homophobia before.
At least we found one philosophy that LackOfFaith can share with many of those he's denouncing, though it's curious: given a firm belief in science, I'd expect him to subscribe the idea that roughly 10% are just born with that variation, and that it's neither contagious nor threatening - unless you've served time, or happen to find yourself being ass-pounded by a bunch of queers.
My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was raped by priests.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 04:02AM
Dr Michael Shermer | The God Debate | Oxford Union.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOI2YvVuuE
Once you put your God in the perspective of the history of all gods, you should feel silly believing in your God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOI2YvVuuE
Once you put your God in the perspective of the history of all gods, you should feel silly believing in your God.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
degenerate
()
Date: April 14, 2013 04:45AM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was raped
> by priests.
YES, and he goes by the name, Numbers.
He is one fucked-up boy.
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> My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was raped
> by priests.
YES, and he goes by the name, Numbers.
He is one fucked-up boy.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 06:36AM
degenerate Wrote:
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was
> raped
> > by priests.
>
>
> YES, and he goes by the name, Numbers.
>
> He is one fucked-up boy.
It's very clear that there aren't very many rocket scientists on this thread.
Attacking the messenger will not stop the message. In fact, it's an indication of the effectiveness of the delivery. The truth will always prevail.
Free yourselves from the myths of your ancestors that inhibit your ability to think clearly. You know it’s a myth. Compare yourselves to the myth believers of ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt. It’s time to advance your understanding of the nature of your existence in the universe in which you exist. Discard your psychological crutches and face your finite fate. Realize that this is as good as it gets, so make the best of it before you squander what little time you have left.
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> Invalid Dino Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > My current theory: as a boy, LackOfFaith was
> raped
> > by priests.
>
>
> YES, and he goes by the name, Numbers.
>
> He is one fucked-up boy.
It's very clear that there aren't very many rocket scientists on this thread.
Attacking the messenger will not stop the message. In fact, it's an indication of the effectiveness of the delivery. The truth will always prevail.
Free yourselves from the myths of your ancestors that inhibit your ability to think clearly. You know it’s a myth. Compare yourselves to the myth believers of ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt. It’s time to advance your understanding of the nature of your existence in the universe in which you exist. Discard your psychological crutches and face your finite fate. Realize that this is as good as it gets, so make the best of it before you squander what little time you have left.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Lack of strength
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:16AM
You were raped.
Free yourself from the anger you love.
Get help, Numbers.
Free yourself from the anger you love.
Get help, Numbers.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:36AM
Lack of strength Wrote:
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> You were raped.
>
> Free yourself from the anger you love.
>
> Get help, Numbers.
I can see that my posts are effective, because my words are like holy water on the devil. I know you can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run! Run away fast before someone mounts you from behind and has their way with you. Religious people love sheep. The atheists can't help you if you refuse to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
Have comfort in the knowledge that you can make the pain go away by casting aside the big myth. Free yourself from your sky buddy. He's not really your buddy, because he will have you killed for violating his commandments or for not providing sufficient worship.
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> You were raped.
>
> Free yourself from the anger you love.
>
> Get help, Numbers.
I can see that my posts are effective, because my words are like holy water on the devil. I know you can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run! Run away fast before someone mounts you from behind and has their way with you. Religious people love sheep. The atheists can't help you if you refuse to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
Have comfort in the knowledge that you can make the pain go away by casting aside the big myth. Free yourself from your sky buddy. He's not really your buddy, because he will have you killed for violating his commandments or for not providing sufficient worship.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
testify
()
Date: April 14, 2013 08:39AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Lack of strength Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You were raped.
> >
> > Free yourself from the anger you love.
> >
> > Get help, Numbers.
>
> I can see that my posts are effective, because my
> words are like holy water on the devil.
Trust me, there are alot of Christians who aren't afraid to stand up and be vocal about their faith and the importance of living life through Christ the Saviour. There are more of us then there are of you, who want to share the good news of the Gospel, and aren't afraid to be persecuted and harassed by non-believers. In fact just the other day we had someone pull up to the local school, pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of reprisal. Many of us are not afraid and people are hearing the power of our message.
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> Lack of strength Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You were raped.
> >
> > Free yourself from the anger you love.
> >
> > Get help, Numbers.
>
> I can see that my posts are effective, because my
> words are like holy water on the devil.
Trust me, there are alot of Christians who aren't afraid to stand up and be vocal about their faith and the importance of living life through Christ the Saviour. There are more of us then there are of you, who want to share the good news of the Gospel, and aren't afraid to be persecuted and harassed by non-believers. In fact just the other day we had someone pull up to the local school, pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of reprisal. Many of us are not afraid and people are hearing the power of our message.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 14, 2013 08:51AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I can see that my posts are effective, because my
> words are like holy water on the devil. I know you
> can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run! Run
> away fast before someone mounts you from behind
> and has their way with you. Religious people love
> sheep. The atheists can't help you if you refuse
> to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
No "attacks" from me... a little poking, maybe, but I'm trying to understand your motivation. I already agree with a large part of your message - it's the delivery that I find most fascinating.
"I have truth for everyone, but, I'm going to alienate 10% of the audience (probably more than that in this area, since gays are likely to migrate to more educated and open-minded areas such as this one), and discredit myself on this point to many others."
(That puts aside the fact that your delivery will prevent many religious adherents from even considering your message.)
I'd also really like to understand why - once religion is taken out of the mix - you'd be motivated to feel as you do on this matter. It won't influence my life a bit, but it could help me understand those around me a bit better, including those who share the same religious philosophy.
And in the end, isn't truth and understanding exactly what you profess a desire to share? I can understand where religion can be perceived as dangerous, and I wholly agree that it can be (just as I question the morality of "scapegoating" and "human sacrifice" upon which Christianity was founded), but why would you condemn behavior that is no way harmless to others? And if it's because you believe that gays can corrupt "straights", then I'm curious about your selective belief in science.
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> I can see that my posts are effective, because my
> words are like holy water on the devil. I know you
> can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run! Run
> away fast before someone mounts you from behind
> and has their way with you. Religious people love
> sheep. The atheists can't help you if you refuse
> to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
No "attacks" from me... a little poking, maybe, but I'm trying to understand your motivation. I already agree with a large part of your message - it's the delivery that I find most fascinating.
"I have truth for everyone, but, I'm going to alienate 10% of the audience (probably more than that in this area, since gays are likely to migrate to more educated and open-minded areas such as this one), and discredit myself on this point to many others."
(That puts aside the fact that your delivery will prevent many religious adherents from even considering your message.)
I'd also really like to understand why - once religion is taken out of the mix - you'd be motivated to feel as you do on this matter. It won't influence my life a bit, but it could help me understand those around me a bit better, including those who share the same religious philosophy.
And in the end, isn't truth and understanding exactly what you profess a desire to share? I can understand where religion can be perceived as dangerous, and I wholly agree that it can be (just as I question the morality of "scapegoating" and "human sacrifice" upon which Christianity was founded), but why would you condemn behavior that is no way harmless to others? And if it's because you believe that gays can corrupt "straights", then I'm curious about your selective belief in science.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Divine Thing
()
Date: April 14, 2013 08:58AM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can see that my posts are effective, because
> my
> > words are like holy water on the devil. I know
> you
> > can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run!
> Run
> > away fast before someone mounts you from behind
> > and has their way with you. Religious people
> love
> > sheep. The atheists can't help you if you
> refuse
> > to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
>
> No "attacks" from me... a little poking, maybe,
> but I'm trying to understand your motivation. I
> already agree with a large part of your message -
> it's the delivery that I find most fascinating.
>
> "I have truth for everyone, but, I'm going to
> alienate 10% of the audience (probably more than
> that in this area, since gays are likely to
> migrate to more educated and open-minded areas
> such as this one), and discredit myself on this
> point to many others."
>
> (That puts aside the fact that your delivery will
> prevent many religious adherents from even
> considering your message.)
>
> I'd also really like to understand why - once
> religion is taken out of the mix - you'd be
> motivated to feel as you do on this matter. It
> won't influence my life a bit, but it could help
> me understand those around me a bit better,
> including those who share the same religious
> philosophy.
>
> And in the end, isn't truth and understanding
> exactly what you profess a desire to share? I can
> understand where religion can be perceived as
> dangerous, and I wholly agree that it can be (just
> as I question the morality of "scapegoating" and
> "human sacrifice" upon which Christianity was
> founded), but why would you condemn behavior that
> is no way harmless to others? And if it's because
> you believe that gays can corrupt "straights",
> then I'm curious about your selective belief in
> science.
Any real church would be against letting fags become part of their congregation. They have a filthy lifestyle.
-------------------------------------------------------
> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can see that my posts are effective, because
> my
> > words are like holy water on the devil. I know
> you
> > can feel the burning. Run little sheeple, run!
> Run
> > away fast before someone mounts you from behind
> > and has their way with you. Religious people
> love
> > sheep. The atheists can't help you if you
> refuse
> > to think for yourself and celebrate reason.
>
> No "attacks" from me... a little poking, maybe,
> but I'm trying to understand your motivation. I
> already agree with a large part of your message -
> it's the delivery that I find most fascinating.
>
> "I have truth for everyone, but, I'm going to
> alienate 10% of the audience (probably more than
> that in this area, since gays are likely to
> migrate to more educated and open-minded areas
> such as this one), and discredit myself on this
> point to many others."
>
> (That puts aside the fact that your delivery will
> prevent many religious adherents from even
> considering your message.)
>
> I'd also really like to understand why - once
> religion is taken out of the mix - you'd be
> motivated to feel as you do on this matter. It
> won't influence my life a bit, but it could help
> me understand those around me a bit better,
> including those who share the same religious
> philosophy.
>
> And in the end, isn't truth and understanding
> exactly what you profess a desire to share? I can
> understand where religion can be perceived as
> dangerous, and I wholly agree that it can be (just
> as I question the morality of "scapegoating" and
> "human sacrifice" upon which Christianity was
> founded), but why would you condemn behavior that
> is no way harmless to others? And if it's because
> you believe that gays can corrupt "straights",
> then I'm curious about your selective belief in
> science.
Any real church would be against letting fags become part of their congregation. They have a filthy lifestyle.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:08AM
Divine Thing Wrote:
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> Any real church would be against letting fags
> become part of their congregation. They have a
> filthy lifestyle.
With the exception of marriage, I would think that any real congregation would behave in a manner where their sexual proclivities - gay or straight - wouldn't openly be known to others.
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> Any real church would be against letting fags
> become part of their congregation. They have a
> filthy lifestyle.
With the exception of marriage, I would think that any real congregation would behave in a manner where their sexual proclivities - gay or straight - wouldn't openly be known to others.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
What About?
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:13AM
testify Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lack of strength Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You were raped.
> > >
> > > Free yourself from the anger you love.
> > >
> > > Get help, Numbers.
> >
> > I can see that my posts are effective, because
> my
> > words are like holy water on the devil.
>
> Trust me, there are alot of Christians who aren't
> afraid to stand up and be vocal about their faith
> and the importance of living life through Christ
> the Saviour. There are more of us then there are
> of you, who want to share the good news of the
> Gospel, and aren't afraid to be persecuted and
> harassed by non-believers. In fact just the other
> day we had someone pull up to the local school,
> pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE
> CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of reprisal. Many of
> us are not afraid and people are hearing the power
> of our message.
This... you don't even recognize where the harassment was in this case - or maybe you're just proud of it. The appropriate place to make statements like that is in school board meetings -- not "drive-by preaching" in front of kids and faculty who can't influence policy in the first place.
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lack of strength Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You were raped.
> > >
> > > Free yourself from the anger you love.
> > >
> > > Get help, Numbers.
> >
> > I can see that my posts are effective, because
> my
> > words are like holy water on the devil.
>
> Trust me, there are alot of Christians who aren't
> afraid to stand up and be vocal about their faith
> and the importance of living life through Christ
> the Saviour. There are more of us then there are
> of you, who want to share the good news of the
> Gospel, and aren't afraid to be persecuted and
> harassed by non-believers. In fact just the other
> day we had someone pull up to the local school,
> pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE
> CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of reprisal. Many of
> us are not afraid and people are hearing the power
> of our message.
This... you don't even recognize where the harassment was in this case - or maybe you're just proud of it. The appropriate place to make statements like that is in school board meetings -- not "drive-by preaching" in front of kids and faculty who can't influence policy in the first place.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
July McCoy
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:20AM
Our records show that "LackOfFaith" was a passenger during our 1979 "Choir Boy Cruise". He was minor at the time, but was accompanied by an adult.
His sponsor and guardian for the duration of the cruise appears to have been Father McPedo from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Arlington. We have no address on record.
Attachments:
His sponsor and guardian for the duration of the cruise appears to have been Father McPedo from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Arlington. We have no address on record.
Attachments:
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:48AM
testify Wrote:
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> In fact just the other day we had someone pull up to the local school,
> pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of
> reprisal. Many of us are not afraid and people are hearing the power
> of our message.
That's a form of child abuse by trying to scare the children into believing a myth under the threat of eternity in hell. We all know it's a lie. If it were true, it would be universal, but it's not.
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> In fact just the other day we had someone pull up to the local school,
> pulled out a Bible and yelled "TEACH THE CONTROVERSEY!" without fear of
> reprisal. Many of us are not afraid and people are hearing the power
> of our message.
That's a form of child abuse by trying to scare the children into believing a myth under the threat of eternity in hell. We all know it's a lie. If it were true, it would be universal, but it's not.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:50AM
July McCoy Wrote:
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> Our records show that "LackOfFaith" was a
> passenger during our 1979 "Choir Boy Cruise". He
> was minor at the time, but was accompanied by an
> adult.
>
> His sponsor and guardian for the duration of the
> cruise appears to have been Father McPedo from the
> Roman Catholic Diocese of Arlington. We have no
> address on record.
Your records are about a accurate as the bible. A compilation of lies, myths and half-truths.
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> Our records show that "LackOfFaith" was a
> passenger during our 1979 "Choir Boy Cruise". He
> was minor at the time, but was accompanied by an
> adult.
>
> His sponsor and guardian for the duration of the
> cruise appears to have been Father McPedo from the
> Roman Catholic Diocese of Arlington. We have no
> address on record.
Your records are about a accurate as the bible. A compilation of lies, myths and half-truths.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackOfFaithInLackOfFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 09:54AM
Maybe he's trying to make this list?
Five Atheists Who Ruin It For Everyone Else
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/04/five_most_awful_atheists_salpart/
Sam Harris is at the top, BTW.
Five Atheists Who Ruin It For Everyone Else
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/04/five_most_awful_atheists_salpart/
Sam Harris is at the top, BTW.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
ex-Lester
()
Date: April 14, 2013 10:05AM
The Old Testament is generally considered by historians to be a collection of adaptations of old myths and pagan religions from the Near and Middle East. It's a waste of time to keep repeating that there's no God or that there is. What's more interesting and more challenging is the New Testament and the differing views on the figures and events. Later authors added their own interpretations or even embellished the stories so that multiple writers contributed to each gospel.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Trooth.
()
Date: April 14, 2013 11:12AM
LOL. Go to the beach for a couple of days and come back to this mess of a thread. The only constant here is LackofFaith's repetitive responses. It went in the sewer last week, but it's really getting bad now. Too funny.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Critic
()
Date: April 14, 2013 11:14AM
Trooth. Wrote:
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> LOL. Go to the beach for a couple of days and
> come back to this mess of a thread. The only
> constant here is LackofFaith's repetitive
> responses. It went in the sewer last week, but
> it's really getting bad now. Too funny.
The "funny" is the only thing it has going for it.
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> LOL. Go to the beach for a couple of days and
> come back to this mess of a thread. The only
> constant here is LackofFaith's repetitive
> responses. It went in the sewer last week, but
> it's really getting bad now. Too funny.
The "funny" is the only thing it has going for it.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Critic
()
Date: April 14, 2013 11:16AM
Critic Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL. Go to the beach for a couple of days and
> > come back to this mess of a thread. The only
> > constant here is LackofFaith's repetitive
> > responses. It went in the sewer last week, but
> > it's really getting bad now. Too funny.
>
> The "funny" is the only thing it has going for it.
I take that back - it's altered my opinion of YC a bit.
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL. Go to the beach for a couple of days and
> > come back to this mess of a thread. The only
> > constant here is LackofFaith's repetitive
> > responses. It went in the sewer last week, but
> > it's really getting bad now. Too funny.
>
> The "funny" is the only thing it has going for it.
I take that back - it's altered my opinion of YC a bit.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 06:52PM
Think about it sheeple! If there was a real God, do you think there would be so many different and conflicting religions? Out of all the current and past religions, who's right? What percent of the total humans living and deceased, practiced the correct religion? If your religion is a function of when and where you were born and you were born at the wrong time and the wrong place to be "saved," is that fair? Do you think a real God that loves you and will punish you if you fail to worship Him or if you break his rules, would be unfair and condemn you to hell for eternity if you were born at the wrong time and place?
Religion and government are two institutions created by men to control the masses. All responsible governments are distancing themselves from religion, because they know it's a myth and it's not needed any longer.
If there was a real God, do you think he would evolve with human imagination? That's an indication of the fact that God is a myth created by man and changed by man as needed.
Who really thinks that a God exists that loves you, cares about you and listens to your prayers? Those are the sheeple amoungst us.
Religion and government are two institutions created by men to control the masses. All responsible governments are distancing themselves from religion, because they know it's a myth and it's not needed any longer.
If there was a real God, do you think he would evolve with human imagination? That's an indication of the fact that God is a myth created by man and changed by man as needed.
Who really thinks that a God exists that loves you, cares about you and listens to your prayers? Those are the sheeple amoungst us.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Kill him please
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:16PM
If there is a god, please let him smite this fucking babbling dickhead lackoffaith. Then maybe this lame thread will finally die along with him. Reading the same thing 1000 times is making all the rest of us as stupid as he is.
Yeah, we get it lackofbrains. You're a fucking genius. Now will you just STFU and go away!!
Yeah, we get it lackofbrains. You're a fucking genius. Now will you just STFU and go away!!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Sheeple #1
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:16PM
I'm done here.
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Attachments:
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:27PM
What do I expect the sheeple to do?
I expect that they will run and hide from the truth. That is what sheeple do.
I expect that they will run and hide from the truth. That is what sheeple do.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Whatever troll
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:44PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> What do I expect the sheeple to do?
>
> I expect that they will run and hide from the
> truth. That is what sheeple do.
Attachments:
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> What do I expect the sheeple to do?
>
> I expect that they will run and hide from the
> truth. That is what sheeple do.
Attachments:
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:45PM
Run sheeple, Run!
The truth is here!
The truth is here!
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
STFU!
()
Date: April 14, 2013 07:47PM
LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Run sheeple, Run!
>
> The truth is here!
We agree that there is no god and we still hate your fucking guts. STFU!
Attachments:
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> Run sheeple, Run!
>
> The truth is here!
We agree that there is no god and we still hate your fucking guts. STFU!
Attachments:
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 14, 2013 08:04PM
STFU! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Run sheeple, Run!
> >
> > The truth is here!
>
>
> We agree that there is no god and we still hate
> your fucking guts. STFU!
What he said. I have to wonder if I've been trolled by an Atheist-hater... you've almost made one out of me.
Attachments:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Run sheeple, Run!
> >
> > The truth is here!
>
>
> We agree that there is no god and we still hate
> your fucking guts. STFU!
What he said. I have to wonder if I've been trolled by an Atheist-hater... you've almost made one out of me.
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 08:28PM
Learning can be painful.
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Sheeple have a difficult behaving rationally. If you don't like what I type, don't read it. Let the truth lurk in the shadows of your world.
We will never rid the world of sheeple. We can only hope to save a few before they die.
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Sheeple have a difficult behaving rationally. If you don't like what I type, don't read it. Let the truth lurk in the shadows of your world.
We will never rid the world of sheeple. We can only hope to save a few before they die.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 14, 2013 11:43PM
Sheeple that read the FFXU forum are offended by the truth. That is expected. But, don't fret sheeple, that feeling of being offended will turn to a wonderful feeling of liberation once you realize that truth and reason are what you should aspire to achieve. The sheeple can't be faulted for the programming they received as young lambs in the care of trusted persons that betrayed them. Your trusted care persons didn't know any better. However, that fact doesn't give you a license to remain a myth believer for the rest of your life. On the contrary, sheeple must try to energize the innate powers of analysis that are the result of hundreds of millions of years of evolution. In spite of being sheeple, they are the product of natural selection and survival of the fittest. So, for reasons that remain unknown, they should have the latent ability to clear their beliefs of myths that continue to inhibit their ability of analysis to achieve truth and reason. Theoretically, the ability is there. Keep it in the forefront of your minds sheeple, that religion was created as a tool to control and influence the unlearned masses by the leaders of your ancestor’s ancient tribes and villages.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:22AM
SheepLe thaT REad tHE FfXu FOrum arE Offended by The trutH. THat iS ExPeCtEd. buT, DOn'T Fret SheeplE, tHat feELIng Of Being oFfeNdEd wilL tuRn To A WonDerful feelIng OF liberATioN OnCe yOU rEalizE THat truTH AND REason arE WHAT YOu sHOULd aspIre To ACHiEve. tHE sheePle CAN't be FaulTed For The PrOGRamminG theY rECeivED AS yOUNg LambS iN the CAre oF TRusteD peRsoNs That BEtRayED theM. your TrUSTeD CAre perSons diDn'T KnoW any BEtter. HOwEvEr, That FACT doesn't gIve yOu a licEnSE tO REMaIN A mYtH belieVEr for The rEst Of yOur liFE. on the contRary, sHeEpLe must TRy tO EnErgiZe tHe inNatE poWeRS of aNalysIs ThaT aRE THE RESulT Of HunDReDs Of mIllIOnS of yEaRS of evOlutioN. In SPiTe of bEING shEePLE, ThEy are tHE pROduCt oF naTUraL selectiOn And SUrVIval oF THE FiTTEst. so, FOr reASONs THAt remAIn UnKNOWn, they shoulD HAve tHE laTenT abIlItY to ClEAr tHEIr BElIEfS OF myThS THat CONtInue tO InhiBit THEIR abiLiTY OF anALySIs TO AchIeVE TRuTh and reAsON. theOrEtiCALlY, The AbiliTY is tHeRe. kEep iT iN the foreFrOnt Of Your mINds SHEEPlE, that religion WaS cREatEd As A tooL tO COnTRol aND inFlUence the UNlearNEd mAssEs by ThE lEADerS of your anCESTOR’S AnCIent TriBEs and villageS.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
STFU Already
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:37AM
LackofFaith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Think about it sheeple! If there was a real God,
> do you think there would be so many different and
> conflicting religions? Out of all the current and
> past religions, who's right? What percent of the
> total humans living and deceased, practiced the
> correct religion? If your religion is a function
> of when and where you were born and you were born
> at the wrong time and the wrong place to be
> "saved," is that fair? Do you think a real God
> that loves you and will punish you if you fail to
> worship Him or if you break his rules, would be
> unfair and condemn you to hell for eternity if you
> were born at the wrong time and place?
>
> Religion and government are two institutions
> created by men to control the masses. All
> responsible governments are distancing themselves
> from religion, because they know it's a myth and
> it's not needed any longer.
>
> If there was a real God, do you think he would
> evolve with human imagination? That's an
> indication of the fact that God is a myth created
> by man and changed by man as needed.
>
> Who really thinks that a God exists that loves
> you, cares about you and listens to your prayers?
> Those are the sheeple amoungst us.
Why are atheists so fucking boring?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Think about it sheeple! If there was a real God,
> do you think there would be so many different and
> conflicting religions? Out of all the current and
> past religions, who's right? What percent of the
> total humans living and deceased, practiced the
> correct religion? If your religion is a function
> of when and where you were born and you were born
> at the wrong time and the wrong place to be
> "saved," is that fair? Do you think a real God
> that loves you and will punish you if you fail to
> worship Him or if you break his rules, would be
> unfair and condemn you to hell for eternity if you
> were born at the wrong time and place?
>
> Religion and government are two institutions
> created by men to control the masses. All
> responsible governments are distancing themselves
> from religion, because they know it's a myth and
> it's not needed any longer.
>
> If there was a real God, do you think he would
> evolve with human imagination? That's an
> indication of the fact that God is a myth created
> by man and changed by man as needed.
>
> Who really thinks that a God exists that loves
> you, cares about you and listens to your prayers?
> Those are the sheeple amoungst us.
Why are atheists so fucking boring?
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:48AM
Not all of us - at least I hope not.
But yeah, I know what you mean about this guy. That's one of the reasons I decided he should be sporting the "BLEH" treatment.
I could've done better, though... next time, I think I'll replace "Sheeple" with "Mr. Chung", and insert some random "Banana Face" for good measure.
I'm considering converting it to JavaScript so that I can paste it into my address bar, and "fix" all of his posts at once.
But for now, I'm going to bed. Here's the C# version, if anyone wants to play with it. Just set "msg" to whatever you want.
string msg = "";
string msg2 = "";
Random r = new Random();
for (int i = 0; i < msg.Length; i++)
if (r.Next(10) > 5)
msg2 += msg.Substring(i, 1).ToUpper();
else
msg2 += msg.Substring(i, 1).ToLower();
Clipboard.SetData(System.Windows.Forms.DataFormats.StringFormat, msg2);
But yeah, I know what you mean about this guy. That's one of the reasons I decided he should be sporting the "BLEH" treatment.
I could've done better, though... next time, I think I'll replace "Sheeple" with "Mr. Chung", and insert some random "Banana Face" for good measure.
I'm considering converting it to JavaScript so that I can paste it into my address bar, and "fix" all of his posts at once.
But for now, I'm going to bed. Here's the C# version, if anyone wants to play with it. Just set "msg" to whatever you want.
string msg = "";
string msg2 = "";
Random r = new Random();
for (int i = 0; i < msg.Length; i++)
if (r.Next(10) > 5)
msg2 += msg.Substring(i, 1).ToUpper();
else
msg2 += msg.Substring(i, 1).ToLower();
Clipboard.SetData(System.Windows.Forms.DataFormats.StringFormat, msg2);
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:52AM
STFU Already Wrote:
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> Why are atheists so fucking boring?
Probably because the non-fiction is boring to some sheeple. That's why they created fiction. Fiction is much more interesting than the non-fiction, because fiction isn't limited by truth and facts. The limits of fiction are the limits of your imagination. Gods are interesting, because gods are fiction and were created from powerful imaginations for the purpose to influence the sheeple for the good of society. Be good sheeple when I'm not around, because you big bud in the sky will be watching everything you do and you will pay for it in the afterlife. ROFLMAO
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> Why are atheists so fucking boring?
Probably because the non-fiction is boring to some sheeple. That's why they created fiction. Fiction is much more interesting than the non-fiction, because fiction isn't limited by truth and facts. The limits of fiction are the limits of your imagination. Gods are interesting, because gods are fiction and were created from powerful imaginations for the purpose to influence the sheeple for the good of society. Be good sheeple when I'm not around, because you big bud in the sky will be watching everything you do and you will pay for it in the afterlife. ROFLMAO
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith in Fairfax
()
Date: April 15, 2013 01:53AM
PRobaBlY becauSe THe non-ficTion Is Boring tO somE sheeplE. thAt's WhY theY CREAted FicTION. fIctIoN iS mUcH mOre InTEreStIng tHAn The NoN-fICTion, becaUsE FicTioN iSN't limItEd by truTH And faCTs. ThE LimiTS of fICtIon aRe tHe lIMItS Of yOUr IMaginaTIoN. goDs arE interEstiNG, becAuSE godS aRE fIcTION ANd wERE CReaTED From pOwErful imaGiNAtioNS FOR thE pUrpose tO iNfLuENCe The SHeEPlE fOR THe Good OF SOciEtY. be GooD SHeEPlE WHeN i'm not ArouNd, BeCauSe yOu big buD in thE sky wiLL Be wATchINg EVeryThiNg you do and yOu wIll pAy for It In the AFteRlife. rofLmAo
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
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Date: April 15, 2013 04:37AM
LackofFaith in Fairfax Wrote:
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> PRobaBlY becauSe THe non-ficTion Is Boring tO somE
> sheeplE. thAt's WhY theY CREAted FicTION. fIctIoN
> iS mUcH mOre InTEreStIng tHAn The NoN-fICTion,
> becaUsE FicTioN iSN't limItEd by truTH And faCTs.
> ThE LimiTS of fICtIon aRe tHe lIMItS Of yOUr
> IMaginaTIoN. goDs arE interEstiNG, becAuSE godS
> aRE fIcTION ANd wERE CReaTED From pOwErful
> imaGiNAtioNS FOR thE pUrpose tO iNfLuENCe The
> SHeEPlE fOR THe Good OF SOciEtY. be GooD SHeEPlE
> WHeN i'm not ArouNd, BeCauSe yOu big buD in thE
> sky wiLL Be wATchINg EVeryThiNg you do and yOu
> wIll pAy for It In the AFteRlife. rofLmAo
"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."
I'm starting to see his point of view. Believers do appear to behave as confused "sheeple."
The more I think about it, the more I agree with LackofFaith. He may be the Messiah of the new atheists.
I sort of vacillate between belief and non-belief, but he's making me see the errors of my ways.
I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by extroverts.
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> PRobaBlY becauSe THe non-ficTion Is Boring tO somE
> sheeplE. thAt's WhY theY CREAted FicTION. fIctIoN
> iS mUcH mOre InTEreStIng tHAn The NoN-fICTion,
> becaUsE FicTioN iSN't limItEd by truTH And faCTs.
> ThE LimiTS of fICtIon aRe tHe lIMItS Of yOUr
> IMaginaTIoN. goDs arE interEstiNG, becAuSE godS
> aRE fIcTION ANd wERE CReaTED From pOwErful
> imaGiNAtioNS FOR thE pUrpose tO iNfLuENCe The
> SHeEPlE fOR THe Good OF SOciEtY. be GooD SHeEPlE
> WHeN i'm not ArouNd, BeCauSe yOu big buD in thE
> sky wiLL Be wATchINg EVeryThiNg you do and yOu
> wIll pAy for It In the AFteRlife. rofLmAo
"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."
I'm starting to see his point of view. Believers do appear to behave as confused "sheeple."
The more I think about it, the more I agree with LackofFaith. He may be the Messiah of the new atheists.
I sort of vacillate between belief and non-belief, but he's making me see the errors of my ways.
I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by extroverts.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Divine Thing
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Date: April 15, 2013 04:53AM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find
> much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to
> perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a
> submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by
> extroverts.
I knew there was something wrong with you. No respectable church would allow you to attend.
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> I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find
> much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to
> perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a
> submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by
> extroverts.
I knew there was something wrong with you. No respectable church would allow you to attend.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
STFU!
()
Date: April 15, 2013 05:41AM
Invalid Dino Wrote:
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> I'm starting to see his point of view. Believers
> do appear to behave as confused "sheeple."
>
> The more I think about it, the more I agree with
> LackofFaith. He may be the Messiah of the new
> atheists.
>
> I sort of vacillate between belief and non-belief,
> but he's making me see the errors of my ways.
>
> I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find
> much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to
> perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a
> submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by
> extroverts.
There's no such thing as a part time homo. You either are or you aren't. It appears that you are. So, shut the fuck up faggot!
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> I'm starting to see his point of view. Believers
> do appear to behave as confused "sheeple."
>
> The more I think about it, the more I agree with
> LackofFaith. He may be the Messiah of the new
> atheists.
>
> I sort of vacillate between belief and non-belief,
> but he's making me see the errors of my ways.
>
> I dabbled in homosexuality, but I just didn't find
> much pleasure in anal sex. I really prefer to
> perform oral sex on black guys, because I’m a
> submissive type of guy. I like to be dominated by
> extroverts.
There's no such thing as a part time homo. You either are or you aren't. It appears that you are. So, shut the fuck up faggot!
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:12AM
LMAO....
There's the "free thinking" from "LackofFaith". If he doesn't like something, he starts calling everyone "gay".
No, I'm not, and never have been. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
I think I've figured out who he is....
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There's the "free thinking" from "LackofFaith". If he doesn't like something, he starts calling everyone "gay".
No, I'm not, and never have been. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
I think I've figured out who he is....
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Father Williams
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:20AM
I'm sorry that I left you so Butter - I mean bitter, "LackofFaith".
Please, come back to God. And don't forget the good times that we shared.
I'm not entirely to blame. You mouth said no, but your eyes said "yes".
Do you remember?
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Please, come back to God. And don't forget the good times that we shared.
I'm not entirely to blame. You mouth said no, but your eyes said "yes".
Do you remember?
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
masters fan
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:26AM
@Invalid Dino - you sure seem a bit light in the loafers dude. Did a priest have his way with you? They say that where's smoke, there's fire. You post a lot of gay gifs.
I prefer the druids to the abrahamic religions. The christ/god/spirt story pushes the limits. Early religious men tried too hard to reconcile all the myths.
I don't have a problem with gay just so long as they stay in the closet. Gays are theists, deists, polytheists and atheists. Being queer can happen to anyone if you're just born unlucky.
I prefer the druids to the abrahamic religions. The christ/god/spirt story pushes the limits. Early religious men tried too hard to reconcile all the myths.
I don't have a problem with gay just so long as they stay in the closet. Gays are theists, deists, polytheists and atheists. Being queer can happen to anyone if you're just born unlucky.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
masters fan
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:31AM
Invalid Dino = Father Williams = ???
Someone definitly rammed something up your butt dude.
You must be a fan of South Park. Your consistency gives you away.
Someone definitly rammed something up your butt dude.
You must be a fan of South Park. Your consistency gives you away.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFath
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:42AM
I'm sorry, Father Williams. I'm done here. I shouldn't be angry with God.
And yes, I know I'm partly to blame. When we were playing "hide the salami", you never told me to "Eat da poo poo". I did that on my own.
And yes, I know I'm partly to blame. When we were playing "hide the salami", you never told me to "Eat da poo poo". I did that on my own.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
masters fan
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Date: April 15, 2013 07:50AM
Invalid Dino = Father Williams = LackofFaith = ???
Dude, who are you really? I think I know who you are sexually. It's obvious to everyone.
I think you play with yourself while you're watching South Park.
How old are you dude?
Stay out of the gay bars; you'll catch HIV.
Dude, who are you really? I think I know who you are sexually. It's obvious to everyone.
I think you play with yourself while you're watching South Park.
How old are you dude?
Stay out of the gay bars; you'll catch HIV.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Rev. Phelps
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Date: April 15, 2013 08:20AM
I'd like to announce that "LackofFaith" has found his way, and the glory of God.
He will post here no more.
Instead, he will join us in focusing his anger on the faggots, for as the Lord tells us: "Fags are the problem".
We will work to support "LackofFaith" to rid him of the last vestiges of latent homosexuality which were thrust upon (and into) him as a child, when he was raped by those he trusted.
Ridding him from his desire to eat da poo poo might take a bit more time....
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He will post here no more.
Instead, he will join us in focusing his anger on the faggots, for as the Lord tells us: "Fags are the problem".
We will work to support "LackofFaith" to rid him of the last vestiges of latent homosexuality which were thrust upon (and into) him as a child, when he was raped by those he trusted.
Ridding him from his desire to eat da poo poo might take a bit more time....
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
masters fan
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Date: April 15, 2013 08:27AM
Invalid Dino = Father Williams = LackofFaith = Rev. Phelps = ???
The gay guy of many ids.
This guy as a fixation on fags. I wonder why?
Just come out of the closet. It will be alright. Everyone won't make fun of you; just most normal people will.
The gay guy of many ids.
This guy as a fixation on fags. I wonder why?
Just come out of the closet. It will be alright. Everyone won't make fun of you; just most normal people will.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Admitted
()
Date: April 15, 2013 08:44AM
Yeah, sure, I'm all of those.
I am the troll, and the troll-killer.
I am everything to everyone.
Now, I'm going to go get porked up the rear, and eat da poo poo.
I am the troll, and the troll-killer.
I am everything to everyone.
Now, I'm going to go get porked up the rear, and eat da poo poo.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
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Date: April 15, 2013 03:15PM
Well, I see a lot of sheeple and faggot posts.
Sheeple, cast aside your myth beliefs and homosexual behavior.
Don't let the forum trolls disrupt the message of truth.
The religion myths cannot be supported with proof or evidence.
Serious scholars and academics acknowledge the myth status.
If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and I will attempt to give you the information that will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
There is no big bud in the sky that loves you. It's all in your mind. Seek the truth and make the best of your life, because there is no afterlife to redeem yourself.
When you die, you are gone for all time. Be aware, there is no purpose for your life other than to reproduce and continue the propagation of the species.
Sheeple, cast aside your myth beliefs and homosexual behavior.
Don't let the forum trolls disrupt the message of truth.
The religion myths cannot be supported with proof or evidence.
Serious scholars and academics acknowledge the myth status.
If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and I will attempt to give you the information that will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
There is no big bud in the sky that loves you. It's all in your mind. Seek the truth and make the best of your life, because there is no afterlife to redeem yourself.
When you die, you are gone for all time. Be aware, there is no purpose for your life other than to reproduce and continue the propagation of the species.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
I am sheeple, hear me roar
()
Date: April 15, 2013 04:18PM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> Well, I see a lot of sheeple and faggot posts.
>
> Sheeple, cast aside your myth beliefs and
> homosexual behavior.
>
> Don't let the forum trolls disrupt the message of
> truth.
>
> The religion myths cannot be supported with proof
> or evidence.
>
> Serious scholars and academics acknowledge the
> myth status.
>
> If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and
> I will attempt to give you the information that
> will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
>
> There is no big bud in the sky that loves you.
> It's all in your mind. Seek the truth and make the
> best of your life, because there is no afterlife
> to redeem yourself.
>
> When you die, you are gone for all time. Be aware,
> there is no purpose for your life other than to
> reproduce and continue the propagation of the
> species.
Ohhhh, you sound so smart, what with the deep analysis you repeat in this thread. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Oh by the way....
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> Well, I see a lot of sheeple and faggot posts.
>
> Sheeple, cast aside your myth beliefs and
> homosexual behavior.
>
> Don't let the forum trolls disrupt the message of
> truth.
>
> The religion myths cannot be supported with proof
> or evidence.
>
> Serious scholars and academics acknowledge the
> myth status.
>
> If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and
> I will attempt to give you the information that
> will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
>
> There is no big bud in the sky that loves you.
> It's all in your mind. Seek the truth and make the
> best of your life, because there is no afterlife
> to redeem yourself.
>
> When you die, you are gone for all time. Be aware,
> there is no purpose for your life other than to
> reproduce and continue the propagation of the
> species.
Ohhhh, you sound so smart, what with the deep analysis you repeat in this thread. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Oh by the way....
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 15, 2013 04:51PM
Sheeple on the forum, Rejoice! The truth never goes away. The truth will aways be there for you when you're ready for it.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Again?
()
Date: April 15, 2013 06:19PM
He just keeps...
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Crazytrollpostswhat
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Date: April 15, 2013 06:40PM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> Sheeple on the forum, Rejoice! The truth never
> goes away. The truth will aways be there for you
> when you're ready for it.
Oh, okay. Good to know. Oh, BTW
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> Sheeple on the forum, Rejoice! The truth never
> goes away. The truth will aways be there for you
> when you're ready for it.
Oh, okay. Good to know. Oh, BTW
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
But...
()
Date: April 15, 2013 06:43PM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and
> I will attempt to give you the information that
> will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
Isn't this proof of divine intervention?
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> If you believe in the myths, post your reasons and
> I will attempt to give you the information that
> will help you cast these myths from your beliefs.
Isn't this proof of divine intervention?
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Zippity
()
Date: April 15, 2013 06:50PM
But... Wrote:
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> LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you believe in the myths, post your reasons
> and
> > I will attempt to give you the information that
> > will help you cast these myths from your
> beliefs.
>
> Isn't this proof of divine intervention?
Good enough for me. Case closed. Thanks for clearing that upand bringing this to a graceful end. [/close thread]
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> LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you believe in the myths, post your reasons
> and
> > I will attempt to give you the information that
> > will help you cast these myths from your
> beliefs.
>
> Isn't this proof of divine intervention?
Good enough for me. Case closed. Thanks for clearing that upand bringing this to a graceful end. [/close thread]
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 15, 2013 07:03PM
It warms my heart that the sheeple are starting to believe that the myth is only a myth.
Rejoice in the power of the truth. The truth shall set you free!!!
Sheeple! Feel free to ask for help anytime you need it.
It's too bad such a good thread was cluttered by pretenders.
Remember, there is no afterlife, so enjoy what you have.
Best of luck to you enlightened sheeple.
Rejoice in the power of the truth. The truth shall set you free!!!
Sheeple! Feel free to ask for help anytime you need it.
It's too bad such a good thread was cluttered by pretenders.
Remember, there is no afterlife, so enjoy what you have.
Best of luck to you enlightened sheeple.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
You're biggest fan - no really
()
Date: April 15, 2013 07:29PM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> It warms my heart that the sheeple are starting to
> believe that the myth is only a myth.
>
> Rejoice in the power of the truth. The truth shall
> set you free!!!
>
> Sheeple! Feel free to ask for help anytime you
> need it.
>
> It's too bad such a good thread was cluttered by
> pretenders.
>
> Remember, there is no afterlife, so enjoy what you
> have.
>
> Best of luck to you enlightened sheeple.
Yes, you've been uber successful. Mission accomplished. You're the bees knees. Oh, and in case this hasn't sunk in.....
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> It warms my heart that the sheeple are starting to
> believe that the myth is only a myth.
>
> Rejoice in the power of the truth. The truth shall
> set you free!!!
>
> Sheeple! Feel free to ask for help anytime you
> need it.
>
> It's too bad such a good thread was cluttered by
> pretenders.
>
> Remember, there is no afterlife, so enjoy what you
> have.
>
> Best of luck to you enlightened sheeple.
Yes, you've been uber successful. Mission accomplished. You're the bees knees. Oh, and in case this hasn't sunk in.....
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 15, 2013 08:03PM
Rejoice Sheeple! Today is a day of truth!
The truth is like a weed under the pavement. It will find the cracks and grow towards the light.
Seek the light and you will find the truth. Be like the weed sheeple. Research the myths and learn the truth. If you seek the truth, you will find it.
Don't believe in the big myth. Seek the truth by demanding proof and evidence.
Live a good life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no afterlife. There is no sky buddy that loves you. There is no forgivness after you are gone. So, make things right now while you are alive.
The truth is like a weed under the pavement. It will find the cracks and grow towards the light.
Seek the light and you will find the truth. Be like the weed sheeple. Research the myths and learn the truth. If you seek the truth, you will find it.
Don't believe in the big myth. Seek the truth by demanding proof and evidence.
Live a good life, because this is as good as it gets. There is no afterlife. There is no sky buddy that loves you. There is no forgivness after you are gone. So, make things right now while you are alive.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 16, 2013 02:05AM
And with his final post, LackofFaith (the original) departs the thread with a smile on his face and a tear in his eye. He knows that at least one little, not very masculine, sheeple has made progress in clearing his beliefs of myths programmed into his belief system at an early age. That little sheeple, who sometimes claims to be an atheist and has dabbled in homosexual behavior, is wiser now, because he now knows not to believe everything hear hears from his gay lovers.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Heman
()
Date: April 16, 2013 06:31AM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> original) departs the thread with a smile on his
> face and a tear in his eye. He knows that at least
> one little, not very masculine, sheeple has made
> progress in clearing his beliefs of myths
> programmed into his belief system at an early age.
> That little sheeple, who sometimes claims to be an
> atheist and has dabbled in homosexual behavior, is
> wiser now, because he now knows not to believe
> everything hear hears from his gay lovers.
We no longer ready your posts. But the most important thing in this thread is that you
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> And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> original) departs the thread with a smile on his
> face and a tear in his eye. He knows that at least
> one little, not very masculine, sheeple has made
> progress in clearing his beliefs of myths
> programmed into his belief system at an early age.
> That little sheeple, who sometimes claims to be an
> atheist and has dabbled in homosexual behavior, is
> wiser now, because he now knows not to believe
> everything hear hears from his gay lovers.
We no longer ready your posts. But the most important thing in this thread is that you
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino - the Original
()
Date: April 16, 2013 07:26AM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> original) departs the thread with a smile on his
> face and a tear in his eye. He knows that at least
> one little, not very masculine, sheeple has made
> progress in clearing his beliefs of myths
> programmed into his belief system at an early age.
> That little sheeple, who sometimes claims to be an
> atheist and has dabbled in homosexual behavior, is
> wiser now, because he now knows not to believe
> everything hear hears from his gay lovers.
Please tell me that was really him, and that he has the integrity for live up to his promise.
As much as he was impersonated, it's funny that he doesn't realize that other people were trolled too, or that other Atheists got so sick of his crap that they joined in as well.
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> And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> original) departs the thread with a smile on his
> face and a tear in his eye. He knows that at least
> one little, not very masculine, sheeple has made
> progress in clearing his beliefs of myths
> programmed into his belief system at an early age.
> That little sheeple, who sometimes claims to be an
> atheist and has dabbled in homosexual behavior, is
> wiser now, because he now knows not to believe
> everything hear hears from his gay lovers.
Please tell me that was really him, and that he has the integrity for live up to his promise.
As much as he was impersonated, it's funny that he doesn't realize that other people were trolled too, or that other Atheists got so sick of his crap that they joined in as well.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 16, 2013 07:48AM
Well, obviously I have still have some work to do, because some of the sheeple have taken on a disrespectful tone.
Now, I realize that some of you are offended by my use of the term "sheeple." That's understandable, because sometimes, the truth hurts. The facts are that from what I have observed, if your not gay, you should be, because you're otherwise very effeminate. You all are either bottom-gays (i.e. catchers) or the type of weak guy that women dominate. Either way, it's nothing to be proud of. It's a well known observation that weak people have weak minds and therefore lack the mental analysis skills we so commonly see in the sheeple population. Now, I've already mentioned some of the typical sheeple characteristics, and I don't feel it's necessary to rehash those unpleasant characteristics that you don't like to hear, so I save you the repetition this time, but I want to make one point perfectly clear. I think you people, in general are what we call pussies. Yes, I had to say it, because it needed to be said. So, I understand that most of you pussies feel safe due to your anonymity, that's good for you, because I would be required to, so to speak, take you out to the woodpile for a good old fashioned thrashing. And, you would take that thrashing, because you wouldn't have any say in the matter. If you don't think so, then let me know where I can find you besides the gay bars you pussies like to hangout in. You will be safe from me there. But, if I should run into any of you little pussy boys anywhere else, you'll get what you've needed for sometime. I hope everything is clear. So, don't think you can tell anyone to shut-up, because you can't. It just make you look like the weak little pussies that you are. Now, go take a shower to wash yourselves, you members of the unwashed masses.
Now, I realize that some of you are offended by my use of the term "sheeple." That's understandable, because sometimes, the truth hurts. The facts are that from what I have observed, if your not gay, you should be, because you're otherwise very effeminate. You all are either bottom-gays (i.e. catchers) or the type of weak guy that women dominate. Either way, it's nothing to be proud of. It's a well known observation that weak people have weak minds and therefore lack the mental analysis skills we so commonly see in the sheeple population. Now, I've already mentioned some of the typical sheeple characteristics, and I don't feel it's necessary to rehash those unpleasant characteristics that you don't like to hear, so I save you the repetition this time, but I want to make one point perfectly clear. I think you people, in general are what we call pussies. Yes, I had to say it, because it needed to be said. So, I understand that most of you pussies feel safe due to your anonymity, that's good for you, because I would be required to, so to speak, take you out to the woodpile for a good old fashioned thrashing. And, you would take that thrashing, because you wouldn't have any say in the matter. If you don't think so, then let me know where I can find you besides the gay bars you pussies like to hangout in. You will be safe from me there. But, if I should run into any of you little pussy boys anywhere else, you'll get what you've needed for sometime. I hope everything is clear. So, don't think you can tell anyone to shut-up, because you can't. It just make you look like the weak little pussies that you are. Now, go take a shower to wash yourselves, you members of the unwashed masses.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Groovy
()
Date: April 16, 2013 07:57AM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> Well, obviously I have still have some work to do,
> because some of the sheeple have taken on a
> disrespectful tone.
>
> Now, I realize that some of you are offended by my
> use of the term "sheeple." That's understandable,
> because sometimes, the truth hurts. The facts are
> that from what I have observed, if your not gay,
> you should be, because you're otherwise very
> effeminate. You all are either bottom-gays (i.e.
> catchers) or the type of weak guy that women
> dominate. Either way, it's nothing to be proud of.
> It's a well known observation that weak people
> have weak minds and therefore lack the mental
> analysis skills we so commonly see in the sheeple
> population. Now, I've already mentioned some of
> the typical sheeple characteristics, and I don't
> feel it's necessary to rehash those unpleasant
> characteristics that you don't like to hear, so I
> save you the repetition this time, but I want to
> make one point perfectly clear. I think you
> people, in general are what we call pussies. Yes,
> I had to say it, because it needed to be said. So,
> I understand that most of you pussies feel safe
> due to your anonymity, that's good for you,
> because I would be required to, so to speak, take
> you out to the woodpile for a good old fashioned
> thrashing. And, you would take that thrashing,
> because you wouldn't have any say in the matter.
> If you don't think so, then let me know where I
> can find you besides the gay bars you pussies like
> to hangout in. You will be safe from me there.
> But, if I should run into any of you little pussy
> boys anywhere else, you'll get what you've needed
> for sometime. I hope everything is clear. So,
> don't think you can tell anyone to shut-up,
> because you can't. It just make you look like the
> weak little pussies that you are. Now, go take a
> shower to wash yourselves, you members of the
> unwashed masses.
I'm sure what you wrote is very interesting. No one here reads your posts, but we appreciate you taking the time to continue to post them. Of course, we await that glorious day when you
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> Well, obviously I have still have some work to do,
> because some of the sheeple have taken on a
> disrespectful tone.
>
> Now, I realize that some of you are offended by my
> use of the term "sheeple." That's understandable,
> because sometimes, the truth hurts. The facts are
> that from what I have observed, if your not gay,
> you should be, because you're otherwise very
> effeminate. You all are either bottom-gays (i.e.
> catchers) or the type of weak guy that women
> dominate. Either way, it's nothing to be proud of.
> It's a well known observation that weak people
> have weak minds and therefore lack the mental
> analysis skills we so commonly see in the sheeple
> population. Now, I've already mentioned some of
> the typical sheeple characteristics, and I don't
> feel it's necessary to rehash those unpleasant
> characteristics that you don't like to hear, so I
> save you the repetition this time, but I want to
> make one point perfectly clear. I think you
> people, in general are what we call pussies. Yes,
> I had to say it, because it needed to be said. So,
> I understand that most of you pussies feel safe
> due to your anonymity, that's good for you,
> because I would be required to, so to speak, take
> you out to the woodpile for a good old fashioned
> thrashing. And, you would take that thrashing,
> because you wouldn't have any say in the matter.
> If you don't think so, then let me know where I
> can find you besides the gay bars you pussies like
> to hangout in. You will be safe from me there.
> But, if I should run into any of you little pussy
> boys anywhere else, you'll get what you've needed
> for sometime. I hope everything is clear. So,
> don't think you can tell anyone to shut-up,
> because you can't. It just make you look like the
> weak little pussies that you are. Now, go take a
> shower to wash yourselves, you members of the
> unwashed masses.
I'm sure what you wrote is very interesting. No one here reads your posts, but we appreciate you taking the time to continue to post them. Of course, we await that glorious day when you
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 16, 2013 08:29AM
Perhaps you would listen to some punk demands, but what you don't realize is that contrary to your understanding, everyone is not a little pussy boy like you. Now go find your boyfriend and get into the sixty-nine position to do what you pussy boys do best.
I understand a lot of homos like to be on the Atheist thread, because you feel safe from the bible thumpers that make you feel guilty for doing what you pussy boy gays do best. I don't think I need to elaborate.
I don't know what I find more disgusting, myth believers or faggots. I think I know. At least the myth believers don't have nasty practices.
I understand a lot of homos like to be on the Atheist thread, because you feel safe from the bible thumpers that make you feel guilty for doing what you pussy boy gays do best. I don't think I need to elaborate.
I don't know what I find more disgusting, myth believers or faggots. I think I know. At least the myth believers don't have nasty practices.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Barf?
()
Date: April 16, 2013 08:44AM
LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
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> Perhaps you would listen to some punk demands, but
> what you don't realize is that contrary to your
> understanding, everyone is not a little pussy boy
> like you. Now go find your boyfriend and get into
> the sixty-nine position to do what you pussy boys
> do best.
>
> I understand a lot of homos like to be on the
> Atheist thread, because you feel safe from the
> bible thumpers that make you feel guilty for doing
> what you pussy boy gays do best. I don't think I
> need to elaborate.
>
> I don't know what I find more disgusting, myth
> believers or faggots. I think I know. At least the
> myth believers don't have nasty practices.
No doubt your post is simply amazing, laced with wit and superior logic. Since no one reads them, we'll just assume that's true. However, now more than ever
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> Perhaps you would listen to some punk demands, but
> what you don't realize is that contrary to your
> understanding, everyone is not a little pussy boy
> like you. Now go find your boyfriend and get into
> the sixty-nine position to do what you pussy boys
> do best.
>
> I understand a lot of homos like to be on the
> Atheist thread, because you feel safe from the
> bible thumpers that make you feel guilty for doing
> what you pussy boy gays do best. I don't think I
> need to elaborate.
>
> I don't know what I find more disgusting, myth
> believers or faggots. I think I know. At least the
> myth believers don't have nasty practices.
No doubt your post is simply amazing, laced with wit and superior logic. Since no one reads them, we'll just assume that's true. However, now more than ever
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Re: Atheism
Posted by:
Invalid Dino
()
Date: April 16, 2013 07:47PM
Invalid Dino - the Original Wrote:
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> LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> > original) departs the thread with a smile on
> his
> > face and a tear in his eye.
>
> Please tell me that was really him, and that he
> has the integrity for live up to his promise.
>
Obviously not.
Dude, here's a clue: you've driven at least one Atheist to the point where he can truly sympathize with those who hate Atheists.
Just like Evangelicals, you're unwilling to stop with just sharing your opinion, and giving people something to thing about. You feel a NEED to convert someone. You feel a NEED to hear that you're right.
And assholes like you give the rest of us a bad name.
I've lost track of whether you're really homophobic... your incessant droning caused me to lose the will to seperate you from your trolls.
Quit while you're behind... PLEASE.
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> LackofFaith - the original Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And with his final post, LackofFaith (the
> > original) departs the thread with a smile on
> his
> > face and a tear in his eye.
>
> Please tell me that was really him, and that he
> has the integrity for live up to his promise.
>
Obviously not.
Dude, here's a clue: you've driven at least one Atheist to the point where he can truly sympathize with those who hate Atheists.
Just like Evangelicals, you're unwilling to stop with just sharing your opinion, and giving people something to thing about. You feel a NEED to convert someone. You feel a NEED to hear that you're right.
And assholes like you give the rest of us a bad name.
I've lost track of whether you're really homophobic... your incessant droning caused me to lose the will to seperate you from your trolls.
Quit while you're behind... PLEASE.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
LackofFaith - the original
()
Date: April 17, 2013 03:20AM
Sheeple, you should practice what you preach. I suggest you shut-up about telling others to shut-up. You can't stop the truth.
Others will never find the truth if they don't hear it. Don't believe something just because someone told you to believe it. If it's not supported with facts, proof and evidence, then it's not true. Seek the truth and demand proof. Research the source of your beliefs. You will find that a lie doesn't become the truth with age.
Others will never find the truth if they don't hear it. Don't believe something just because someone told you to believe it. If it's not supported with facts, proof and evidence, then it's not true. Seek the truth and demand proof. Research the source of your beliefs. You will find that a lie doesn't become the truth with age.
Re: Atheism
Posted by:
boi
()
Date: April 27, 2013 05:58PM
God dosen't exist. And if he does, fuck him for allowing to believe otherwise.