" You it's myth, so enjoy life. "

So much for being smarter. Great sentence structure there.

Contradictory Wrote:
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> No heaven and hell is a myth and you believe that.
>
>
> Where's your proof that they DON'T exist?


+666

When you're right, you're right. Goodnight.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Dude, you should really come up with your own
> username. I know you want to be like me, but you
> should try to seek your own identity.


I'm happy with my name; no need to seek out an identity. Identities are stupid and selfish.

Shit, I just saw a Jew. Gotta go get my gun. Later, my atheist twin.

Wow, lol. Okay, um good morning. That was easy.

Bye, sad guy. I'm sorry about your life.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> When you're right, you're right. Goodnight.


Dude, why do you continue to use the same username?

Get a life dude.

I don't think there is a hell, but if there was, I think you'd be there, because you like to use other peoples usernames.

Dude, if you were so much smarter than the believers you'd know how to put an end to this.

What makes this so funny is the fact that it's more than one person doing this to you.

Shun the non believer, shunnnnn!

This isn't real! You can't prove there's more than one person and I can't prove that I'm not really pretending that other people are using my name so I can be a prick and blame it on someone else!

o my fucking god

It just hit me.

I know nothing.

I'm just a speck of dust with a mental disorder that makes me act all arrogant and shit.

I'm douchebag pussy asshole.

Vanity of vanities; all is vanity

Someone posted about Islam being a hateful religion...

That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains governmental backing and it becomes accepted to persecute others. Christianity has gone down the same road wherever and whenever it could. When you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull them into the mob mentality that religion fosters, they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting "group think" blinds them to the evils of what they do, because they're constantly surrounded by others who tell them that the moral high ground is theirs alone.

Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to keep church and state separate because God offends them, they do it because history has consistently proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix. Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as a shining example that it happens in countries which are white, educated, and relatively prosperous too.

I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call other people "evil" for believing - all that they ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs upon them, or ask for government backing. But pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it works when the question is reversed. Almost all of us have the potential for evil inside of us, but it can only be embraced without question in a large scale when adherents believe that they have God's support.
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It was Young Cumdragon... he tried to bury his own embarrassment.

The Other "LackOfFaith" Wrote:
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> It was Young Cumdragon... he tried to bury his own
> embarrassment.

I'm about as embarrassed as George W. Bush was over the Iraq War. Not very.

I must admit, I'm still laughing at this one.......



Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Oh please, I have an IQ of 146, which is in the top 
> 1% of the population.

How It Is Wrote:
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> Someone posted about Islam being a hateful
> religion...
>
> That's what happens whenever ANY religion gains
> governmental backing and it becomes accepted to
> persecute others. Christianity has gone down the
> same road wherever and whenever it could. When
> you indoctrinate children from birth, and pull
> them into the mob mentality that religion fosters,
> they become hateful and intolerant. The resulting
> "group think" blinds them to the evils of what
> they do, because they're constantly surrounded by
> others who tell them that the moral high ground is
> theirs alone.
>
> Generally speaking, Atheists aren't vigilant to
> keep church and state separate because God offends
> them, they do it because history has consistently
> proven the dangers of allowing the two to mix.
> Look at the Protestants and Catholics in Europe as
> a shining example that it happens in countries
> which are white, educated, and relatively
> prosperous too.
>
> I've never seen a credible group of Atheists call
> other people "evil" for believing - all that they
> ever ask for is that you not push your own beliefs
> upon them, or ask for government backing. But
> pick up any newspaper, and you can see how it
> works when the question is reversed. Almost all
> of us have the potential for evil inside of us,
> but it can only be embraced without question in a
> large scale when adherents believe that they have
> God's support.


Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science" and on and on.

Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's consider the 100 million plus people in the world who have been killed under the tenents of communism and socialism. These systems reject God and religion yet kill millions of their own people, almost always to further the desires of the ruling few.

You don't know what you're spouting, which is typical of the anti-Godists.

An example of the compassionate atheists:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/2060337/


Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son. What a bunch of losers.

This is the original LackofFaith posting.

Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians are a result of their christian beliefs.

Atheism is not about hostility towards religion. It's just the total lack of belief of the supernatural and Gods.

I believe religion is the source of many conflicts in the history of human relations.

Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the truth. Demand proof!

Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as good as it gets, because there is no afterlife. When you are dead, you are gone forever.

Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of the negative effects of religion and other myths.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> This is the original LackofFaith posting.
>
> Don't confuse atheism with the acts of some
> atheism. We don't assume all crimes by christians
> are a result of their christian beliefs.
>
> Atheism is not about hostility towards religion.
> It's just the total lack of belief of the
> supernatural and Gods.
>
> I believe religion is the source of many conflicts
> in the history of human relations.
>
> Religion is based on myths and lies. Seek the
> truth. Demand proof!
>
> Relax, because there is no God or Gods. This is as
> good as it gets, because there is no afterlife.
> When you are dead, you are gone forever.
>
> Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free of
> the negative effects of religion and other myths.

OK, I demand that you prove there is no God. You have 1 post to do it. Go for it.

The burden isn't on us to prove that Willy Wonka was fictional, nor that Darth Vader didn't exist in another galaxy a long long time ago.

If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll probably continue to assume that you're stupid, except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.

BTW, this doesn't mean that I'm "hateful"... generally, I'd peacefully coexist with your stupidity. It's not a Constitutional Right, but it's part of accepting diversity.

However, when you're so proud of your stupidity that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's difficult to just let it go in silence.

There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single person is going to find or lose religion based on this debate, and I actually have things other to do that are real, tangible, and productive.

God and Proof Wrote:
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> The burden isn't on us to prove that Willy Wonka
> was fictional, nor that Darth Vader didn't exist
> in another galaxy a long long time ago.
>
> If you want to pray to him, feel free. Yes, we'll
> probably continue to assume that you're stupid,
> except for CY... he's intelligent, just ignorant.


Wrong. The dude wrote, "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof. Try and keep up. You are sadly mistaken to think I care what you assume. There are multiple threads on here that have gone down this road. Read them. Logic is not on your side of the argument.

God and Proof Wrote:
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> BTW, this doesn't mean that I'm "hateful"...
> generally, I'd peacefully coexist with your
> stupidity. It's not a Constitutional Right, but
> it's part of accepting diversity.
>
> However, when you're so proud of your stupidity
> that you feel a need to wave it as a flag, it's
> difficult to just let it go in silence.
>
> There's nothing to accomplish here. Not a single
> person is going to find or lose religion based on
> this debate, and I actually have things other to
> do that are real, tangible, and productive.


Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with a superiority complex LOL.

Trooth. Wrote:
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> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful,
> bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on.
>
> Want to see large scale embracing of evil, let's
> consider the 100 million plus people in the world
> who have been killed under the tenents of
> communism and socialism. These systems reject God
> and religion yet kill millions of their own
> people, almost always to further the desires of
> the ruling few.
>
> You don't know what you're spouting, which is
> typical of the anti-Godists.

Of the 10 bloodiest wars in the history of humanity, only one had a semi-religious component. That one was World War II.

hypocrites
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Watch all of this guy's videos
http://www.youtube.com/darkmatter2525

The burden of proof is on the believers and evangelists.

There no proof for nothing. You can only prove something if it exists.

Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of Gods past, present and future.

The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know that there have been many God myths in the past.

What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian Gods?

I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and go, but truth prevails.

It's all a myth and we all know how myths are started. In the end though, myths die once they are recognized for what they are. A myth is not the truth.

A myth may make you feel good and give you some comfort. A myth may be more pleasant than the truth, but in the end, the truth prevails.

Isn't it better to understand that truth, than to hide in a myth.

We all know it's a myth. Face it, there is no God. There is no afterlife. When you are gone, you are gone for good.

Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.

Trooth. Wrote:
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>
> Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or is it a blog). They call those who belive in God "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> and on and on

And christians call muslims "evil, stupid, backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted, intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".

Both groups act very ignorant.


> > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

Trooth. Wrote:
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> Yeah, you don't come across as a pompous ass with
> a superiority complex LOL.

At the time, that's exactly what I thought about the kid who told me that there was no Santa.

I stayed up late that year, to see what happened. My Father ate the cookies, drank the milk, and left gifts with Santa's name.

Now I realize that even though Santa didn't come, that didn't prove that he didn't exist. Perhaps he just knew about my lapse of faith, and took me off his list.

Thank you Dad... For many years, I thought you had deceived me, but now I realize that you might have just been trying to ease the pain of my abandonment.

People, I'm here to plant the seed for you to grow into skeptics about anything that lacks proof. Faith is for the hopeless. Religious activities are a waste of resources.

Everyone should seek the truth. Dismiss the pretenders.

You know it's a myth. Enjoy like, because once it's over, you are done.

Does anyone really become an Atheist past the age of 20 or so?

Falling out of faith because of a tragedy or something, sure... that's the whole "angry at God" dynamic, and I always assume those people will be "born again" at a later age when they're faced with their own mortality.

But if you get through your 20's, and nothing has really struck you as wrong with regard to believing something just because a bunch of people told you it was so (God, Allah, whatever - the particular one is likely to be related to your geography), then what are the chances of just waking up one day and saying "hey, this really doesn't make sense"?

Seriously, does this really happen?

It doesn't happen if you are a member of the sheeple.

Sheeple will believe anything told to them by authority.

You have to have the intellect to question something generally accepted.

Sheeple don't have that intellect.

Internet Bozo Wrote:
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> An example of the compassionate atheists:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/
> 07/pastor-rick-warren-matthew-warren-suicide/20603
> 37/
>
>
> Hate-filled attacks after the suicide of his son.
> What a bunch of losers.

God has finally punished Rick Warren for all of his deceptive hatemongering. I pray that Warren changes his ways and appeases the Lord for taking his son's life from him.

I don't think anybody has to worry about punishment from an imaginary God.

It’s fun to have imaginary friends. You can think whatever you want about them and they can't do anything to you.

Everybody knows it's a myth. Demand proof and seek the truth.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> The burden of proof is on the believers and
> evangelists.
>
> There no proof for nothing. You can only prove
> something if it exists.
>
> Talk is cheap and that is the only indication of
> Gods past, present and future.
>
> The christian/jewish God is a myth and we know
> that there have been many God myths in the past.
>
> What happened to the Greek Gods? What happened to
> the Roman Gods? What happened to the Egyptian
> Gods?
>
> I know the christian/jewish God will suffer the
> same fate as his predecessor Gods. Gods come and
> go, but truth prevails.
>
> It's all a myth and we all know how myths are
> started. In the end though, myths die once they
> are recognized for what they are. A myth is not
> the truth.


You whine about demanding proof, yet offer none to support your assertion that there is no God. You flap your gums, make noise, but, in the end, make no sense.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Atheists call religion evil all the time. Just
> read the posts of the atheists on > this board (or
> is it a blog). They call those who belive in God
> "evil, stupid,
> > backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science"
> > and on and on
>
> And christians call muslims "evil, stupid,
> backwards, troglodytes, hateful, bigoted,
> intolerant, close-minded, anti-science".
>
> Both groups act very ignorant.
>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.


Wrong again Meeps. You atheists call Muslims those things as well. Not to their faces or publically of course as your scared (for good reason) they'll make you pay. The brush you paint with is way too broad and you're using it to paint the wrong group. I expect nothing less from you. You haven't been right about Christianity yet.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

>
>
> > > "Demand proof!" So I'm demanding proof.
>
> What can be asserted without proof can be
> dismissed without proof.


Of course. I'm not the one who screeched "Demand proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not only does he not see the illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God). The illogic of the anti-Godists continues unabated here, as it has for over 2 years. At best, we can agree to disagree. There is no proof that God does not exist. Nothing the Bible has ever been disproven. Kind of remarkable considering it was written thousands of years ago.

> There is no proof that God does not exist.

There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite number of absurd or false things that can't be proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless argument to say that your idea can't be proven not to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.

Take a course in the history of religion. You will find that the bible is merely a collection of myths, legends and stories, some borrowed from other faiths and cultures, revised, edited and assembled into the holy book. The bible was written by men. It was written by men with less understanding of the universe than high school students today.

Do you notice how all the God type events happened at a time when there was no video tape or digital cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type of indications of aliens performing anal probes.

You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have learned that in high school. The burden of proof is on those that claim something exists. It's well acknowledged that there is no proof of God and that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't equal to proof.

For many, these simple concepts are difficult to understand. There have been many scientific investigations of religious claims and they always fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being to include the existence of a human soul that leaves the body upon death.

It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and listens to your prayers.

> > Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> only does he not see the illogic in his argument
> of demanding proof for faith, but he can't provide
> proof for his own faith (no God).

Hahahahahahahahha.

Dude, you are beyond help.

"...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for faith,..."

The only thing illogical is someone not demanding proof of some claim that can be characterized as "supernatural."

"...but he can't provide proof for his own faith (no God)."

Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and there is not proof that they exist. They are figments of people's imagination. There are many imposters and references, but they do not exist.

If something is "well known to be", "known by everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you pressing your ideas on other people?

You seem to be struggling on a local forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope that he's wrong?

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?

I think it's well known that there isn't proof of existence. It's those that try to press there ideas that something exist, that loves you and will punish you if you don't believe that are the offending party. Those that deny the claims without proof are merely utilizing their critical minds and powers of analysis. If you choose to believe in the myth, it's interesting how you choose that particular myth out of all the myths that have existed. What about the myths of the Greeks, Romans and Egyptians? Did they fall out of favor? I'm merely rejecting the ideas being pressed on me and others like me.

If the Pope, present or past, was a moral leader, along with his subordinates, he would do something about the pedophilia rampant in the Catholic Church. If there was a real God, do you think he would tolerate the leadership of the Catholic Church and there acts against children? If the Pope has the power and authority to act and he fails to act, then he is just as culpable as the transgressor.

Vexxxed Wrote:
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> If something is "well known to be", "known by
> everyone" or "well acknowledged", why are you
> pressing your ideas on other people?
>
> You seem to be struggling on a local
> forum.........how will you ever convince the Pope
> that he's wrong?

Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> > > Trooth. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > I'm not the one who screeched "Demand
> > proof". That was your homie lackoffaith. Not
> > only does he not see the illogic in his
> argument
> > of demanding proof for faith, but he can't
> provide
> > proof for his own faith (no God).
>
> Hahahahahahahahha.
>
> Dude, you are beyond help.
>
> "...illogic in his argument of demanding proof for
> faith,..."
>
> The only thing illogical is someone not demanding
> proof of some claim that can be characterized as
> "supernatural."
>
> "...but he can't provide proof for his own faith
> (no God)."
>
> Atheism is lack of faith, You don't need to prove
> you don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, Easter
> Bunny, God, etc...., because they don't exist and
> there is not proof that they exist. They are
> figments of people's imagination. There are many
> imposters and references, but they do not exist.


No one is asking you to prove what you believe. What you're being asked to prove is that what you believe is the truth or is a fact. Your inability to string together any kind of logical thought on this subject should convince everyone here (including you) on the weakness of your argument. You are really quite emotional about this. Another sign of the weakness of your argument.

Here's a scientific proof that your argument is flawed: something can not come from nothing.

Here's another scientific proof that your argument is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been shown to move towards order, only disorder (not withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't support evolution or the 5 billion year old universe, throwing out over 100 years of scientific observation and accepted truth for crackpot theories).

You are typical of modern junk scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes about it. And you expect to be taken seriously. LOL

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> > There is no proof that God does not exist.
>
> There is no proof that Zeus does not exist. And
> there is no proof that the Loch Ness Monster
> doesn't exist. There's literally an infinite
> number of absurd or false things that can't be
> proven 'not to exist'. There's no proof that an
> airport made out of cats doesn't exist on the
> planet Neptune. It's really a meaningless
> argument to say that your idea can't be proven not
> to exist, it doesn't support your claim at all.

Your inability to grasp the simple concept that I wasn't the one who made the challenge to "prove it" explains much Meeps. Until you can demonstrate that you can grasp that simple concept, I'm done with you.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Take a course in the history of religion. You will
> find that the bible is merely a collection of
> myths, legends and stories, some borrowed from
> other faiths and cultures, revised, edited and
> assembled into the holy book. The bible was
> written by men. It was written by men with less
> understanding of the universe than high school
> students today.
>
> Do you notice how all the God type events happened
> at a time when there was no video tape or digital
> cameras? Why is that? The only indications of the
> existence of a God is word of mouth. The same type
> of indications of aliens performing anal probes.
>
> You don't prove negatives. Everyone should have
> learned that in high school. The burden of proof
> is on those that claim something exists. It's well
> acknowledged that there is no proof of God and
> that is why you need faith to believe. Faith isn't
> equal to proof.
>
> For many, these simple concepts are difficult to
> understand. There have been many scientific
> investigations of religious claims and they always
> fail to produce any proof of a supernatural being
> to include the existence of a human soul that
> leaves the body upon death.
>
> It's all a myth people so enjoy life, because
> there is no big bud in the sky that loves you and
> listens to your prayers.


If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there must be something in there that can be proven wrong with all the scientific instruments and knowledge we can bring to bear.

Trooth. Wrote:
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> If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not your
> opinion. Surely, after thousands of years, there
> must be something in there that can be proven
> wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> knowledge we can bring to bear.

Are you for real?

http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.htm

The list could go on and on. The bible was written by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders before most people could read or write.

High school students have a better understanding of the environment, earth, solar system and universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.

From what I've observed, the bible is more useful for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards non-believers rather than reading for truth about the world we live in.

Do some research on the topic of how the bible was written, where the various myths originated, the people who wrote the bible, and the bible books, chapters, and verses that the early conventions of religious leaders decided to not include in the "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths, legends and popular stories passed down through the generations, to illustrate the morals of the time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is not. The book is very dated. It contains some common sense that would be necessary for a group of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to explain the origin of the bible and the need for a bible in the early times before society was more fully developed.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If it's so easily dismissed, then show us proof
> > that the Bible is wrong. In anything. Not
> your
> > opinion. Surely, after thousands of years,
> there
> > must be something in there that can be proven
> > wrong with all the scientific instruments and
> > knowledge we can bring to bear.
>
> Are you for real?
>
> http://www.skeptictank.org/files//evo2/noahprob.ht
> m
>
> The list could go on and on. The bible was written
> by shamen, monks, and tribal religious leaders
> before most people could read or write.
>
> High school students have a better understanding
> of the environment, earth, solar system and
> universe than any Bronze Age myth writer.
>
> From what I've observed, the bible is more useful
> for thumping to solicit money and disdain towards
> non-believers rather than reading for truth about
> the world we live in.
>
> Do some research on the topic of how the bible was
> written, where the various myths originated, the
> people who wrote the bible, and the bible books,
> chapters, and verses that the early conventions of
> religious leaders decided to not include in the
> "holy" book. The bible is a collection of myths,
> legends and popular stories passed down through
> the generations, to illustrate the morals of the
> time. Some of it is applicable today, but a lot is
> not. The book is very dated. It contains some
> common sense that would be necessary for a group
> of early people to live in harmony. You shouldn't
> covet your neighbors wife, because that's not good
> for the family unit. You shouldn't have same sex
> for the same reason. Etc.... It's very easy to
> explain the origin of the bible and the need for a
> bible in the early times before society was more
> fully developed.


Here's some more research for ya lackoffaith:

http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm

I'm sure I can counter every theoretical web site you find with one or two that provide a different theory (here's another: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/275993.aspx).

Again, your site offers no proof. It states problems that it can not solve nor prove or disprove. Dinosaurs on the ark? Really? You expect that to be taken seriously? Try harder.

This is the problem with the anti-Godistas. The Bible says God made it happen. Your side can't explain how it happened, but says with the rhetoric of a zealot that however it happened, it wasn't because of God. You rant about the close-minded belivers while practicing the same religious fevor.

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Trooth. Wrote:
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> Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> flawed: something can not come from nothing.
>
> Here's another scientific proof that your argument
> is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> withstanding modern science now trying to rewrite
> the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> scientific observation and accepted truth for
> crackpot theories).
>
> You are typical of modern junk
> scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or understand
> more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to know
> or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
> LOL

I think you should take some science, physics and chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting your "defend the bible" talking points from too many televangelist. You have very little understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have you ever taken a course at the college level on the subject?

You may not be aware of the fact that matter is mostly space with very little material. Consider the volume of the solar system and the volume of the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There is a similar relationship between the volume of an atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and electrons. Also, these components of the atom are made of smaller parts that have even less substance. If you were able to condense the matter that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the space, the remaining volume would defy comprehension. It would be essentially nothing; the same nothing that the scientists indicate began the universe. The reality is actually stranger than the over simplified version I just indicated.

I find it entertaining to read the defenses you have posted. You are not well prepared to debate anyone.

The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.

Well then that settles it for me- there IS a God!
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It's good that the sheeple believe because they are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof; all they need is for someone in authority to tell them it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and their percentage of the total population to get his socialist agenda through. It's not just the mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama loves you too.

Modern education basically draws people away from scripture. I remember getting schooled in science and things like literature, it presents a tremendous pressure on our faith and is ultimately an empty promise. It's a necessary evil that encourages young, easily manipulated kids to stray from righteousness that "natural law" has ignored for thousands of years. They'll all be sorry some day when they meet their maker and realize the only textbook you'll ever need is the Gospel. Everything is right there, teaching you the good life and how you should live. And it's free to anyone who will accept Jesus into their heart. The only tuition is forgiveness.

Gregg Wrote:
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> Modern education basically draws people away from
> scripture. I remember getting schooled in science
> and things like literature, it presents a
> tremendous pressure on our faith and is ultimately
> an empty promise. It's a necessary evil that
> encourages young, easily manipulated kids to stray
> from righteousness that "natural law" has ignored
> for thousands of years. They'll all be sorry some
> day when they meet their maker and realize the
> only textbook you'll ever need is the Gospel.
> Everything is right there, teaching you the good
> life and how you should live. And it's free to
> anyone who will accept Jesus into their heart.
> The only tuition is forgiveness.

Don't forget the biggest lie of them all: homosexuality is normal.

You don't need the bible to know that homosexuality is a defect. In fact, I believe it's a major strategic failure to base opposition to same sex marriage on a biblical argument alone, because the religious argument is flawed. Some cultures past and present have accepted homosexual behavior as well as pedophilia. The interesting thing about homosexuality is that it has defied the law of natural selection and survival of the fittest. It's an aberration of nature and likely a birth defect caused in the developmental stage in the womb. I don't think that homosexual behavior should be normalized, but should be treated like any other perverted sexual attraction. I believe medical science will eventually find the cause and a remedy. Until then gays should be tolerated as any other members of society with birth defects.

Sam Harris: Science can answer moral questions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.

We do not debate, we indoctrinate.

If I proved that God exists, then it would erase the need for Faith. God buried Dinosaur bones as a test of our Faith. If you depend on reason and evidence, you are damned.

How dare you question that which cannot withstand questioning? Burn in Hell, you sinner!

This is what happens when you question. God depends on on not questioning, and we depend on God. Do not mess with the order of the universe.

I know it must be this way because someone told me so. When I asked him "why", he got really frightened. Surely, that's all the proof I needed.
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LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof; all
> they need is for someone in authority to tell them
> it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and their
> percentage of the total population to get his
> socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> loves you too.

Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.

For example, among other things, stoning women to death for adultery or not being a virgin on their wedding night.

What the Bible says about stoning:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html

Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must take it as you find it.

The good news is that the bible is a collection of myths.

The Dinosaurs questioned... that's why they never existed.
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That's a great post. It reminds me that we all have free will and individual ability to rise to our highest level of competence. Unfortunately, all individuals were not born with the same level of personal ability and potential.

The sheeple are content to believe what they are told to believe. That's what makes them sheeple.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> LackofFaith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's good that the sheeple believe because they
> > are told to believe. Sheeple don't need proof;
> all
> > they need is for someone in authority to tell
> them
> > it is so. Obama depends on the sheeple and
> their
> > percentage of the total population to get his
> > socialist agenda through. It's not just the
> > mythical God that loves you, the sheeple, Obama
> > loves you too.
>
> Yes, you can learn a lot from the bible.
>
> For example, among other things, stoning women to
> death for adultery or not being a virgin on their
> wedding night.
>
> What the Bible says about stoning:
>
> http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoni
> ng.html
>
> Now, allegedly, the bible was written by the hand
> of God, so you can't pick and choose what you like
> and dislike. There's no cafeteria option. You must
> take it as you find it.
>
> The good news is that the bible is a collection of
> myths.


Read the New Testament. Jesus is quite clear on stoning. Sorry, another fail.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here's a scientific proof that your argument is
> > flawed: something can not come from nothing.
> >
> > Here's another scientific proof that your
> argument
> > is flawed: No unregulated system has ever been
> > shown to move towards order, only disorder (not
> > withstanding modern science now trying to
> rewrite
> > the 2nd law of thermodynamics because it didn't
> > support evolution or the 5 billion year old
> > universe, throwing out over 100 years of
> > scientific observation and accepted truth for
> > crackpot theories).
> >
> > You are typical of modern junk
> > scientist-wanna-be's. We don't know or
> understand
> > more than 1/10 billionth of what there is to
> know
> > or understand and yet, you speak in certitudes
> > about it. And you expect to be taken seriously.
>
> > LOL
>
> I think you should take some science, physics and
> chemistry courses at the graduate school level. I
> don't think anyone is trying to rewrite the second
> law of thermodynamics. I think you've been getting
> your "defend the bible" talking points from too
> many televangelist. You have very little
> understanding of mechanics of thermodynamics. Have
> you ever taken a course at the college level on
> the subject?
>
> You may not be aware of the fact that matter is
> mostly space with very little material. Consider
> the volume of the solar system and the volume of
> the sun, planets, asteroids, comets, etc... There
> is a similar relationship between the volume of an
> atom and the volume of the protons, neutrons and
> electrons. Also, these components of the atom are
> made of smaller parts that have even less
> substance. If you were able to condense the matter
> that comprises the earth to eliminate the all the
> space, the remaining volume would defy
> comprehension. It would be essentially nothing;
> the same nothing that the scientists indicate
> began the universe. The reality is actually
> stranger than the over simplified version I just
> indicated.
>
> I find it entertaining to read the defenses you
> have posted. You are not well prepared to debate
> anyone.
>
> The good news is that everyone, deep down, knows
> God and all the previous Gods are a myth. Enjoy
> life, because this is as good as it gets.


And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the stuff that made the universe. LOL

Trooth. Wrote:
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> And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like the
> stuff that made the universe. LOL

It's well established dude. Check it out on the internet. You've got to have some physics education to relate and know what to search for.

You God squaders need to expand your mental horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof. Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You are not going to face punishment after death. When you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets. Everyone knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a myth. Just like all the other God myths of the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.

Yes God squaders, listen to the man. He says it better than I do and I'm one of the best.

See you in Hell! I can't wait to get all of you FFUers down to my place.

The Sun is rising.

Wake up, my fellow citizens of the Earth.

Praise the painted sky and bow your head.

Enjoy the fruits of the vines.

Thank not a false god, a heathen in disguise; thank your government and bow your head lower.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And your proof of this is? Nothing, just like
> the
> > stuff that made the universe. LOL
>
> It's well established dude. Check it out on the
> internet. You've got to have some physics
> education to relate and know what to search for.
>
> You God squaders need to expand your mental
> horizons. Don't accept anything with out proof.
> Seek the truth and your mind will be set free. You
> are not going to face punishment after death. When
> you're dead, you're dead for good. So, enjoy life,
> because this is as good as it gets. Everyone
> knows, when they're honest with themselves, it's a
> myth. Just like all the other God myths of the
> Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.


Well established theory perhaps (though probably not even that), but not anywhere near proof/fact/truth. You accept all of this scientific theory without proof, yet chide others who don't. Your own actions undermine your argument.

Dude, have you ever taken a physics course? I think not.

God squaders aren't known for taking the hard sciences.

I think it very well established and settled science. Check it out for yourself.

And, I don't think you understand the word "theory" as used in science.

Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a fact dude.

It's interesting that God squaders accept myths based on "I told you so," but reject science based on verified proof.

There is no God, because the God myth was invented by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who liked to take their stuff with them.

Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone can see for themselves that God squaders don't know much about anything except what they were told about the bible.

I think trooth is a young earth creationist. He's got the limited mentality for it.

Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to know in one nice package.

I particularly like that part about stoning the women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Dude, have you ever taken a physics course? I
> think not.
>
> God squaders aren't known for taking the hard
> sciences.
>
> I think it very well established and settled
> science. Check it out for yourself.
>
> And, I don't think you understand the word
> "theory" as used in science.
>
> Just like the theoy of evolution, evolution is a
> fact dude.
>
> It's interesting that God squaders accept myths
> based on "I told you so," but reject science based
> on verified proof.
>
> There is no God, because the God myth was invented
> by man. And, the afterlife is a myth as well. I
> think that one was borrowed from the Egyptians who
> liked to take their stuff with them.
>
> Thanks for posting you silly comments. Everyone
> can see for themselves that God squaders don't
> know much about anything except what they were
> told about the bible.


The fact that you think we have verfied proof is laughable. If our journey of knowledge about the universe were a mile long, we've traveled about a foot in that journey. Your personal knowledge in that journey would equal 1/100 of that foot (and that's being extremely generous to you). And yet, you spout theories and your opinion as if they're fact that must be accepted. And, per usual with your ilk, you don't see how ridiculous that is. Talk about faith.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I think trooth is a young earth creationist. He's
> got the limited mentality for it.
>
> Yeah dude, the bible has everything you need to
> know in one nice package.
>
> I particularly like that part about stoning the
> women that aren't virgins on their wedding night.

You see what you want to see (as if we didn't already know that). I have never stated how old I think the earth is in this thread. I have stated my opinion on this subject in other threads here, so, if you want to know it, use Search.

I'm a sad boy; a lonely, skinny ass boy, with a tongue ring and a tattoo of Roman Polanski on my penis.

I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.

A missionary's work is not fun.

They say I'm boring.

I'm the one with the dinosaur-related posts, among others.

I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the point that some Atheists can be hateful.

There are a lot of believers - of several faiths - among my friends and family. As far as I can tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and look to that as evidence/proof. I believe that it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's helped us survive as a species... we form communities, we watch the backs of those we care about and love, and it helped us survive long enough to rise to the top of the food chain.

For many, those feelings defy logical explanation, and when you're raised to connect those emotions with God, it becomes hard to even imagine them not being inter-dependent. I don't think they're bad people, or dumb people... they were just indoctrinated from birth to make that connection, just as many believers are puzzled (or deny) that "good" can exist without "God".

Please, stick to rational arguments, and skip the name-calling. It doesn't help your case.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> I'm a sad boy; a lonely, skinny ass boy, with a
> tongue ring and a tattoo of Roman Polanski on my
> penis.
>
> I'm spreading the Word of the fake God.
>
> A missionary's work is not fun.
>
> They say I'm boring.


Wow, that didn't take too long for you to go take this thread right into the sewer. Really quite lamely too. Do you always react so irrationally when challenged? If so, science isn't for you.

Dinosaur Guy Wrote:
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> I've got to say: the "Sheeple" thing is getting
> redundant, and it does kind of go to proving the
> point that some Atheists can be hateful.

Actually, most of us are arrogant blowhards who view ourselves as superior humans. I, though, am a humble man.

> There are a lot of believers - of several faiths -
> among my friends and family.

My cousin's daughter married a Jew (with a big nose) so I am not a bigot.

> As far as I can
> tell, they take the feeling of "spirituality", and
> look to that as evidence/proof.

As far as I can tell, that sentence made me sound stupid, but I'm hoping you won't notice. (LOL - I'm an atheist with a sense of humor)

> I believe that
> it's an evolutionary strategy, and that it's
> helped us survive as a species... we form
> communities, we watch the backs of those we care
> about and love, and it helped us survive long
> enough to rise to the top of the food chain.

And, I thank that Fleming guy who discovered antibiotics, since, without penicillin, I would never have evolved to become the great thinker I am today. (I get sick, a lot... bad genes)

> I don't think they're bad
> people, or dumb people...

They're just simple people. That's why I and my fellow atheists devote our lives to the arduous crusade of saving their souls.

Hallelujah!

I've noticed that some sheeple get offended when they are reminded that they are sheeple with all the less than desirable attributes of sheeple. Like it or not, sadly, it's true.

You know you've won the debate when defeated sheeple use your username and post nonsense.

Relax people and sheeple, there is no God. Enjoy your life, because this is as good as it gets.

Seek the truth and dismiss all assertions that lack proof.

Think sheeple, THINK! I mean believers.

I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good, but you shouldn't go through life letting other people tell you want to believe and think.

Study the history of religions so you have an understanding of how the bible was written. Also, you will gain an appreciation of how early religions borrowed myths to establish their credibility with the people they intended to control. Yes, religion was about control of the masses.

Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no proof of the supernatural.

Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> Think sheeple, THINK! I mean believers.
>
> I know thinking is hard and it doesn't feel good,
> but you shouldn't go through life letting other
> people tell you want to believe and think.
>
> Study the history of religions so you have an
> understanding of how the bible was written. Also,
> you will gain an appreciation of how early
> religions borrowed myths to establish their
> credibility with the people they intended to
> control. Yes, religion was about control of the
> masses.
>
> Remember, it's all a myth, because there is no
> proof of the supernatural.
>
> Enjoy life, because this is as good as it gets.


Name calling and repeating yourself over and over again. Your debating tatics need work.

Ignoring the trolls, I've got to say "LackOfFaith" is a little misleading, anyway. It implies that you're missing something that you should have.

You really can't expect an intelligent debate on the topic, because these folks have no sound arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason need to be ignored in order to make their whole belief system work.

We could call out the impotence of a God who can't get more than 20% of the world on the same page - despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as a rationally self-supporting argument.

But if you did that, they could just point out that an all-powerful God would be above idolization from his creations, and that it would be arrogant to believe that he really cares what they think in the first place.

Opinion. Wrote:
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> Ignoring the trolls, I've got to say "LackOfFaith"
> is a little misleading, anyway. It implies that
> you're missing something that you should have.
>
> You really can't expect an intelligent debate on
> the topic, because these folks have no sound
> arguments to work with. Intelligence and reason
> need to be ignored in order to make their whole
> belief system work.
>
> We could call out the impotence of a God who can't
> get more than 20% of the world on the same page -
> despite sending his "Son" to a horrible fate - as
> a rationally self-supporting argument.
>
> But if you did that, they could just point out
> that an all-powerful God would be above
> idolization from his creations, and that it would
> be arrogant to believe that he really cares what
> they think in the first place.


Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of thousands of current/living scientists who believed in some form of God/creator. None of them are as smart as your though LOL

Trooth. Wrote:
> Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens of
> thousands of current/living scientists who
> believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> them are as smart as your though LOL

Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?

Half of that list was condemned by the church. To publicly "not believe" would've been a death sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.

And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at the mouth on a public forum, please:

"Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."

An all-knowing God would let his church get so much crap so wrong for so long.

Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to try to account for the evidence that they can no longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.

Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?

Like It Was Wrote:
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> Trooth. Wrote:
> > Yeah, tell that to Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,
> > Pascal, Newton, Pasteur, Einstein and the tens
> of
> > thousands of current/living scientists who
> > believed in some form of God/creator. None of
> > them are as smart as your though LOL
>
> Stupidity just can't stay quiet, can it?
>
> Half of that list was condemned by the church. To
> publicly "not believe" would've been a death
> sentence for some. Galileo simply reported what
> he saw, and was put on house-arrest for life.
>
> And, do a bit of research before you go foamomg at
> the mouth on a public forum, please:
>
> "Albert Einstein's religious views have been
> studied extensively. He said he believed in the
> "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a
> personal god, a belief he criticized. He also
> called himself an agnostic, while disassociating
> himself from the label atheist, preferring, he
> said an "attitude of humility corresponding to the
> weakness of our intellectual understanding of
> nature and of our own being."

Not talking about "church" or religion, talking about belief in a God or creator. I know what Einstien's veiws were, which support what I wrote, not what you wrote. Wrong again. Which makes me laugh btw.

Wondering Why... Wrote:
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> An all-knowing God would let his church get so
> much crap so wrong for so long.
>
> Christian beliefs have been CONSTANTLY edited to
> try to account for the evidence that they can no
> longer refute. Your beliefs today barely resemble
> those of a devout Christian 1,000 years ago.
>
> Is your God in flux? Or is your doctrine suddenly
> correct now that we're on version 2013.4.9?


The Bible's the Bible. Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.

> I know what Einstien's veiws were

You seem to know a lot of things that you can't support with evidence. That speaks for itself.

> Interpretation of the Bible does change over time but the text does not.

Not even remotely true. It was revised by every Pope prior to the printing press.

There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by definition, is the willingness to accept something as fact without any rational basis for support. Logic means little to you, and anything that's contrary to your beliefs must be the work of another fictional character that you call Satan.

Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any of them.

They worship because they're scared?
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Laughing. Wrote:
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> > I know what Einstien's veiws were
>
> You seem to know a lot of things that you can't
> support with evidence. That speaks for itself.
>
> > Interpretation of the Bible does change over
> time but the text does not.
>
> Not even remotely true. It was revised by every
> Pope prior to the printing press.
>
> There's no reason to argue with you. Faith, by
> definition, is the willingness to accept something
> as fact without any rational basis for support.
> Logic means little to you, and anything that's
> contrary to your beliefs must be the work of
> another fictional character that you call Satan.
>
> Yes, I'm Satan, and you're Job. See? It all
> makes sense now. Your blind adherence will grant
> you entrance to the pearly gates. 72 virgins
> await, but you won't be allowed to sleep with any
> of them.


Every pope huh? You inability to not post in absolutes belies any scientific credibility that you've been trying establish. Who's your source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this thread appears to be you.

@Trooth: Which sect do you subscribe to?

I still think one of the most amusing situations in recent history came from Europe, when Catholics and Protestants were perfectly willing to slaughter each other (some still are).

Why would a God that gave a damn allow two groups with largely the same belief to kill each other in his name, unless it was just for amusement?

I mean, they're all Christians, right? He sent his "Son" down to get the record straight, and get everyone on the same page, which was also the same time that Hell opened for business. Get it wrong, burn forever... which ones are toasty now?

Do you really think your God is that inept?

Trooth. Wrote:
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> Every pope huh? You inability to not post
> in absolutes belies any scientific credibility
> that you've been trying establish. Who's your
> source, Dan Brown? Sorry, the only troll in this
> thread appears to be you.

See, the difference between us is that I can concede a point when I do overstep myself, as I MAY have, in this case. We will never know with certainty.

You, on the other hand, fixate on one little point, and use it to invalidate everything else, no matter how sensible it is. It fits the pattern.

They are both trolls, but:

"Trooth" says the Bible has never been changed.

"Laughing" says that every Pope changed it.

Instead of admitting he was wrong, Trooth jumps on the word "every" like a lifeline.

This shit is going nowhere.

Which one is right?

"In all, 198 editions of the Bible were in the language of the laity, 626 editions all together, and all before the first Protestant version, and all having the full approval of the Church"

http://www.cathtruth.com/catholicbible/earlyhis.htm

It's good to see some question the existence of a God or Gods.

If you believe, your religion is mainly a function of where you were born.

Does that make sense if there was a real God? No, of course not. It only makes sense if we have a bunch of man made Gods.

I think that the all powerful imagination of man created the Gods that have existed, past and present.

Come on now people, deep down inside where you store your darkest concerns, you know it's all a myth. You've noted the discrepencies and contradictions and wondered about your beliefs. People, you need to find the strenght to reject the religious programming you received as a child. You know it can't be true. There is no afterlife where everything is perfect. There are no pearly gates. Saint Peter is dead and long gone. And, there is no God. So, relax and enjoy life.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> It's good to see some question the existence of a
> God or Gods.

More than we can know. For many, it's easier to just pretend and get along, no matter what you feel inside.

> If you believe, your religion is mainly a function
> of where you were born.

Where and WHEN. Look at Greece.

You heard the man, there is no God, but he didn't say there wasn't a devil.

I will own all of you soon enough. Enjoy life and don't bother praying to a God to save your soul. I made a deal long ago that ensures I will get your souls.

See you all in Hell!

ROTFLMAO

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> Enjoy life and
> don't bother praying to a God to save your soul.

Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a petulant and vindictive God. He created me so that I could honor him, and he'll punish me forever if I don't.

I understand, because I get my thrills the same way:

10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE AND FEAR YOU."
20 GOTO 10

At Last! Wrote:
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> -666- Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Enjoy life and
> > don't bother praying to a God to save your
> soul.
>
> Thank you for writing this... I also believe in a
> petulant and vindictive God. He created me so
> that I could honor him, and he'll punish me
> forever if I don't.
>
> I understand, because I get my thrills the same
> way:
>
> 10 PRINT "YOU ARE GREAT AND WONDERFUL. I LOVE
> AND FEAR YOU."
> 20 GOTO 10

You sound like good sheeple stock.

Yes, the all powerful imagination of man created a petulant and vindictive God that loves you, but will punish you if you don't kneel before him and worship him.

The good news is that it's all a myth. So, relax and get off your knees.

Seek the truth. The truth will set you free from the fear of the man created God.

LackofFaith Wrote:
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> You sound like good sheeple stock.

And you sound like someone with an underdeveloped sense of irony and sarcasm.