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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: To delight in someone's misfortune ()
Date: May 13, 2011 09:30PM

What is the name for that?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: May 13, 2011 09:49PM

Schadenfreude?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 14, 2011 08:48AM

Eagles beat Cardinals last night!

GO OAKVIEW!!!!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Schadenfreude ()
Date: May 14, 2011 08:56AM

Thanks.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: wow ()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:20PM

today i learned people in clifton are...kind of racist. maybe more diverse schools dont always out perform segregated...erm..."less diverse" schools...but at least more of those kids won't grow up to be racist assholes like their parents probably are.

half the people in clifton make me sick. just because you're blessed with a lot of money you look down on everyone else. if you want your kid to be a snob and go to a school with a 1:5 teacher-student ratio, send them to a private school. that way they can be just like mommy and daddy.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:35PM

@wow- Please enlighten us all on your racist experience of late. Also 1:5 ratio? Are you kidding me? I think you are very mistaken on that front as nearly all classrooms at Clifton have 32 or more students in them (except for the unusually small first grade which still has almost 30 in each classroom). Please, fill us all in on the information you are working from.

I am more than fed up with this bashing crap. Own up to what your experience was with details instead of hiding behind vague references with no meat. Also, please show me the huge volume of insanely wealthy people tht live IN CLIFTON LIMITS vs any other affluent area of Fairfax County (McLean, Great Falls, etc.) And who cares if they are wealthy....jealous much?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Blah ()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:48PM

Justataxpayer Wrote:
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> @wow- Please enlighten us all on your racist
> experience of late. Also 1:5 ratio? Are you
> kidding me? I think you are very mistaken on that
> front as nearly all classrooms at Clifton have 32
> or more students in them (except for the unusually
> small first grade which still has almost 30 in
> each classroom). Please, fill us all in on the
> information you are working from.
>
> I am more than fed up with this bashing crap. Own
> up to what your experience was with details
> instead of hiding behind vague references with no
> meat. Also, please show me the huge volume of
> insanely wealthy people tht live IN CLIFTON LIMITS
> vs any other affluent area of Fairfax County
> (McLean, Great Falls, etc.) And who cares if they
> are wealthy....jealous much?

You both are racists.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:51PM

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 01, 2011 09:12PM

Clifton may be a LOT of things (LoLz) but racist isnt really one of them, wow

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: LOLZ ()
Date: June 02, 2011 06:59AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Clifton may be a LOT of things (LoLz) but racist
> isnt really one of them, wow

Yeah right, it used to be white's only back in the 19th Century.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: anon ()
Date: June 02, 2011 07:41AM

i like clifton

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Nextdoorneighbor ()
Date: June 02, 2011 11:57AM

Oh well shit happens you guys

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: DKHill ()
Date: June 02, 2011 03:35PM

This is really sad. For all the "Clifton haters", you should realize that we are leading the fight against the corrupt self serving school board that wrongly closed our school. We have lost our community school but are still fighting to make sure this school board isn't allowed to arbitrarily close the next school. I am not a racist and I am not rich. I care about my children and when the school board wrongly closes the elementary school my children would have attended you better believe I am going to fight for it. I expect that you would do the same and I hope you remember all of this when the FCSB targets your school. We have made it very difficult for the school board to do to others what they have done to us. If another community school is attacked like ours has been, I doubt you will find any derogatory and hurtful comments coming from anyone in Clifton. We are not your enemy. We are your neighbors.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/02/2011 04:29PM by DKHill.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 03, 2011 08:05PM

LOLZ Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clifton may be a LOT of things (LoLz) but
> racist
> > isnt really one of them, wow
>
> Yeah right, it used to be white's only back in the
> 19th Century.

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well, there you have it then............cause everyone else in the 19th Century LOVED black ppl, right?

Christ on a cracker, man - GROW UP AND JOIN US HERE IN THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Pat H ()
Date: June 03, 2011 08:37PM

Tear down this Wall, err, building

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Hey Pat ()
Date: June 03, 2011 08:42PM

You must be the one sucking ass for Liz.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Is Pat a male or female? ()
Date: June 03, 2011 08:47PM

You are still a sick to "eat" with Liz.

Gross.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Done Deal Now ()
Date: June 03, 2011 11:01PM

Today the Virginia Supreme Court upheld the FCPS School Board's decision to close Clifton Elementary School. That sucks for the town and the local taxpayers and school children. But that is the way it is gonna be.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: one man's waste.... ()
Date: June 04, 2011 12:35PM

This whole "dialogue" just goes to show that one man's needless government waste is another man's essential government program.

The people of Clifton are not racist. But at least some of them ARE selfish and hypocritical. The decision to close Clifton ES was primarily financial: keeping it open simply was not the most efficient use of taxpayer money.

Is it ironic that this happened in a community that has been leading the charge for budget cuts and tax reductions in Fairfax County? Or is it just another case of wealthy conservatives insisting on budget cuts until the axe swings in their direction?

The best argument Cliftonites have made is that this will tear this community apart. In that case, it's a shame that this supposedly tight-knit community never bothered to develop any other institutions that could hold it together.

It was never FCPS/FCSB's job to maintain Clifton's definition of itself as somehow separate from everybody else. These children go to the supposedly horrific schools nearby and discover, to their surprise, that they are strong communities full of wonderful people as well.


Done Deal Now Wrote:
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> Today the Virginia Supreme Court upheld the FCPS
> School Board's decision to close Clifton
> Elementary School. That sucks for the town and
> the local taxpayers and school children. But that
> is the way it is gonna be.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: what with the property ()
Date: June 04, 2011 12:45PM

What's going to happen to the building? Will they tear it down?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: county worker ()
Date: June 04, 2011 01:04PM

what with the property Wrote:
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> What's going to happen to the building? Will they
> tear it down?


No the local douche bags there in clifton have gotten some historic building bullshit permit so it will stay and cost you all money. The county is going to see if they can get the asbestos inspection through so we can at least use it for something. If not it will be sealed up and no acess without special equipment and SCBA tank.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Cliftonite ()
Date: June 04, 2011 01:45PM

I live in Clifton. I am sad that Clifton Elementary is closed. It has already been said, but i will agree with others who are not afraid to say this: I hate most niggers and illegal spics. I also hate smelly dot heads with their funny talk. I don't want my kids breeding with those animals so keeping them out of the school is what I prefer. That is what was so good about Clifton.

See most niggers and spics are lazy which is why they are poor. The cool thing about Clifton is that it costs a lot of money to live here. Since these minorities are mostly poor, they are kept out - with the exception of professional athletes of course. What is sad is that now my kids have to be around those disgusting people again.

Another thing that i dont like are poor people in general. If you make less than 200k per year, it is obvious that you did not really try hard in school or perform well at your job. As a result, you are poor. If you are poor you are of a lower class than we Clifton people and therefore should have separate schools from us. After all, our children will always perform better than your poor kids due to better heredity, nutrition, home environment, sleep, etc. I don't want poor kids to feel worse than they already do by virtue of being poor. I want them to be able to do the best they can so they can be good federal government employees (most are lazy and stupid) and restaurant managers and such.

Nicole Beem

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Funny_Guy ()
Date: June 04, 2011 03:34PM

Cliftonite Wrote:
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> I live in Clifton. I am sad that Clifton
> Elementary is closed. It has already been said,
> but i will agree with others who are not afraid to
> say this: I hate most niggers and illegal spics.
> I also hate smelly dot heads with their funny
> talk. I don't want my kids breeding with those
> animals so keeping them out of the school is what
> I prefer. That is what was so good about Clifton.
>
>
> See most niggers and spics are lazy which is why
> they are poor. The cool thing about Clifton is
> that it costs a lot of money to live here. Since
> these minorities are mostly poor, they are kept
> out - with the exception of professional athletes
> of course. What is sad is that now my kids have
> to be around those disgusting people again.
>
> Another thing that i dont like are poor people in
> general. If you make less than 200k per year, it
> is obvious that you did not really try hard in
> school or perform well at your job. As a result,
> you are poor. If you are poor you are of a lower
> class than we Clifton people and therefore should
> have separate schools from us. After all, our
> children will always perform better than your poor
> kids due to better heredity, nutrition, home
> environment, sleep, etc. I don't want poor kids
> to feel worse than they already do by virtue of
> being poor. I want them to be able to do the best
> they can so they can be good federal government
> employees (most are lazy and stupid) and
> restaurant managers and such.
>
> Nicole Beem

I don't want to breed with your kind either. Judging by your typing and attitude, you're a white princess wannabe with too much baggage. Now go jump off a bridge so we can make a post about it and make fun of you. lol

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 04, 2011 05:47PM

@Funny Guy - Cliftonite is as fake as that name (may be real but not his) or a porn star's breasts - dont buy that crap or think anybody from Clifton would even use the word "nigger" - believe me, it's beneath them to do so.

@Cliftonite - I'm sure you're proud you got a response from somebody
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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: county worker ()
Date: June 04, 2011 07:48PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Funny Guy - Cliftonite is as fake as that name
> (may be real but not his) or a porn star's breasts
> - dont buy that crap or think anybody from Clifton
> would even use the word "nigger" - believe me,
> it's beneath them to do so.
>
> @Cliftonite - I'm sure you're proud you got a
> response from somebody


Yes that was clearly a troll post but there are some people in the clifton area that do think that way although they would never post their opinions on the web. Some teachers even have opinions very similar to the troll post.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Your wrong ()
Date: June 04, 2011 08:14PM

Most of us moved to Clifton to be on 5 acre lots.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: MAGNOLIA201 ()
Date: June 04, 2011 09:12PM

They won - not a damn thing anyone can do. The FCPS schoolboard is GOD and you all need to remember this when re-election comes around. Senator Barker, Representative Hugo, or Supervisor Herrity had NO power against the misguided School Board. Who pays the brunt of the taxes for into the school system - Clifton Residents. THEY showed us.............

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: say ()
Date: June 04, 2011 09:40PM

I hope Clifton has learned from this.

You'll notice that this kind of shit does NOT happen in Great Falls/Langley. The School Board doesn't dare cross those people. Look at the absurd boundaries for Langley High. I don't know why they leave those folks alone out there, but if I had to guess, I'd say that Langley/GF folks have purchased enough politicians to ensure that they will get their way.

While Clifton is the "poor mans' Great Falls", they are still fairly well-heeled. They would be wise to start buying politicians as well. It's over for the school, but it might head off other shit that may coming down the road.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: June 04, 2011 09:42PM

MAGNOLIA201 Wrote:
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>Who pays the brunt of the taxes for into
> the school system - Clifton Residents.

Please get over yourself, Clifton residents do NOT pay the brunt of taxes into the school system. Some facts, there are 282 residents in Clifton and over 1,015,000 in Fairfax County. Even if you include the entire 20124 zipcode, it's ~18,000. You don't have the votes or enough population to swing elections or influence anyone. It's obvious. Despite all the saber rattling, lawsuits, FOIAs, it's over and CES is closing.

Time to move on, for your kids sake.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: IS not over ()
Date: June 04, 2011 10:33PM

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> MAGNOLIA201 Wrote:
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> >Who pays the brunt of the taxes for into
> > the school system - Clifton Residents.
>
> Please get over yourself, Clifton residents do NOT
> pay the brunt of taxes into the school system.
> Some facts, there are 282 residents in Clifton and
> over 1,015,000 in Fairfax County. Even if you
> include the entire 20124 zipcode, it's ~18,000.
> You don't have the votes or enough population to
> swing elections or influence anyone. It's obvious.
> Despite all the saber rattling, lawsuits, FOIAs,
> it's over and CES is closing.
>
> Time to move on, for your kids sake.
WE SUED FCPS AND THE SB. BUT WE LOST WE GOING TO TAKE THIS TO THE UNITED STATES Supreme Court IS NOT EVEN CLOSE OF EVEN OVER

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: derrr ()
Date: June 04, 2011 10:56PM

"Clifton is the poor man's Great Falls."

Great quote, so true.

Clifton really isn't that nice.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: derrr ()
Date: June 04, 2011 11:01PM

DKHill Wrote:
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> This is really sad. For all the "Clifton haters",
> you should realize that we are leading the fight
> against the corrupt self serving school board that
> wrongly closed our school. THEIR SCHOOL. We have lost our
> community school
A SCHOOL FAIRFAX COUNTY OWNS AND CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH, but are still fighting to make
> sure this school board isn't allowed to
> arbitrarily close the next school. I am not a
> racist and I am not rich. I care about my children
> and when the school board wrongly closes the
> elementary school my children would have attended.
>BLAH BLAH BLAH

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: logicaldog ()
Date: June 09, 2011 05:18AM

Clifton should do what any motivated electorate should do, vote 'em out. You are right when you say it is a poor mans Great Falls (although 22039 has a higher house value), but Clifton is also traditionally a commuter pacifist community where the parents could actually care less. This charged them up, hopefully that will last. We need smart, informed, caring school board members NEXT time.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: June 09, 2011 07:15AM

DKHill Wrote:
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> This is really sad. For all the "Clifton haters",
> you should realize that we are leading the fight
> against the corrupt self serving school board that
> wrongly closed our school. THEIR SCHOOL. We have lost our
> community school A SCHOOL FAIRFAX COUNTY OWNS AND CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH, but are still fighting to make
> sure this school board isn't allowed to
> arbitrarily close the next school. I am not a
> racist and I am not rich. I care about my children
> and when the school board wrongly closes the
> elementary school my children would have attended.
>BLAH BLAH BLAH

The corrections above are appropriate. Clifton ES is part of a school system, it is not a publicly-funded closed-community school. I suggested months ago they approach an organization that runs charter schools to see if they can buy or lease the property from the county and pay for teachers and property upkeep just like the rest of us (who don't live in Clifton) have to do with our kids' private schools. Did anyone do that?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2011 07:15AM by justsayin.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: To: Justsayin ()
Date: June 09, 2011 07:23AM

We pay taxes just like everyone else. To suggest we should pay the teachers and upkeep of the school is just stupid.

We have moved on. We are looking forward to starting at our new schools in the fall.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: June 09, 2011 07:30AM

I never suggested you pay for teachers and upkeep at a public school beyond the taxes you pay. I suggested a way to keep your non-public school the way you want it.

Plenty of people pay taxes AND send kids to private school, I only offer a suggestion that the rest of the parents in the county do when they are dissatisfied with their public school choices.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Nelson M ()
Date: June 21, 2011 02:40PM

HA HA! They closed your school.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Liz needs to STFU ()
Date: June 21, 2011 09:00PM

Hiding out as Nelson is a shame and it is shocking how you both look alike! Poor Nelson.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: county mountie ()
Date: July 23, 2011 06:33PM

Robert Wrote:
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> I WANT TO SUE FCPS. THEY ARE CLOSING CLIFTON
> ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOL IN
> FCPS. I HATE JACK DALE. THE ONLY REASON CLIFTON
> ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS SUCH A GOOD SCHOOL IS BECAUSE
> WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BLAKCS OR ILLEGALS IN OUR
> SCHOOL. IF WE REMOVED THEM EVER SCHOOL WOULD BE
> LIKE CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL


let's discuss this some more.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Hope our school isn't next ()
Date: July 24, 2011 07:43AM

Clifton definitely got the shaft. Figured since someone wanted to dig up an old to the point post and edit out most of what was being said I would repost the whole thing. This guy has a point, surely much more than just blah blah blah... Also, when you went to school didn't you refer to the school you attended as "your school" or did you call it Fairfax County Public Schools school?

DKHill Wrote:
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> This is really sad. For all the "Clifton haters",
> you should realize that we are leading the fight
> against the corrupt self serving school board that
> wrongly closed our school. We have lost our
> community school but are still fighting to make
> sure this school board isn't allowed to
> arbitrarily close the next school. I am not a
> racist and I am not rich. I care about my children
> and when the school board wrongly closes the
> elementary school my children would have attended
> you better believe I am going to fight for it. I
> expect that you would do the same and I hope you
> remember all of this when the FCSB targets your
> school. We have made it very difficult for the
> school board to do to others what they have done
> to us. If another community school is attacked
> like ours has been, I doubt you will find any
> derogatory and hurtful comments coming from anyone
> in Clifton. We are not your enemy. We are your
> neighbors.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: johnluke ()
Date: July 24, 2011 07:49AM

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Know Nothing ()
Date: July 24, 2011 08:13AM

African decent? or African descent (as in ancestry).

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Taxpayer1 ()
Date: July 24, 2011 10:16PM

Hope our school isn't next Wrote:
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> Clifton definitely got the shaft.

Not really, that school wasn't able to grow with the 5 acre lot requirement I'm the area. Huge $$$ savings and their kids will still get a quality education. Win Win

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: JBass ()
Date: July 25, 2011 12:03PM

Taxpayer1 Wrote:
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> Hope our school isn't next Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Clifton definitely got the shaft.
>
> Not really, that school wasn't able to grow with
> the 5 acre lot requirement I'm the area.

Please explain what the heck this means. The school didnt need 5 Acres.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: county worker ()
Date: July 26, 2011 03:20AM

JBass Wrote:
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> Taxpayer1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hope our school isn't next Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Clifton definitely got the shaft.
> >
> > Not really, that school wasn't able to grow
> with
> > the 5 acre lot requirement I'm the area.
>
> Please explain what the heck this means. The
> school didnt need 5 Acres.


I think he was reffering to the min lot size to build a home thats on well and septic equals lower population density and less need for local school to serve the few and gets paid for by the rest of us.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Taxpayer1 ()
Date: July 26, 2011 10:05AM

county worker Wrote:
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> JBass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Taxpayer1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hope our school isn't next Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Clifton definitely got the shaft.
> > >
> > > Not really, that school wasn't able to grow
> > with
> > > the 5 acre lot requirement I'm the area.
> >
> > Please explain what the heck this means. The
> > school didnt need 5 Acres.
>
>
> I think he was reffering to the min lot size to
> build a home thats on well and septic equals lower
> population density and less need for local school
> to serve the few and gets paid for by the rest of
> us.

yes, exactly.

Plus the place was old and in need of expensive remodeling and repairs. Closing it was a no brainer.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Taxpayer2 ()
Date: July 26, 2011 11:23AM

Taxpayer1 Wrote:
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> yes, exactly.
>
> Plus the place was old and in need of expensive
> remodeling and repairs. Closing it was a no
> brainer.

Exactly. The morons that closed it had no brains.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: JBass ()
Date: July 26, 2011 11:24AM

Taxpayer1 Wrote:
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> county worker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JBass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Taxpayer1 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Hope our school isn't next Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Clifton definitely got the shaft.
> > > >
> > > > Not really, that school wasn't able to grow
> > > with
> > > > the 5 acre lot requirement I'm the area.
> > >
> > > Please explain what the heck this means.
> The
> > > school didnt need 5 Acres.
> >
> >
> > I think he was reffering to the min lot size to
> > build a home thats on well and septic equals
> lower
> > population density and less need for local
> school
> > to serve the few and gets paid for by the rest
> of
> > us.
>
> yes, exactly.
>
> Plus the place was old and in need of expensive
> remodeling and repairs. Closing it was a no
> brainer.

You are not a "Taxpayer" You are a Tax Donor. This is the silliest statement Ive seen out of thousands posted here, what does the lot size have ANYTHING to do with student to teacher ratio, You seem to be implying that the larger properties equates to smaller student to teacher ratios, thus costing the taxpayers more per student. It simply is not true, I could show numbers that make Clifton the most economically sound school in the county if you look at land area served to school budget ratios.

But Im not trying to confuse the issue not skew facts, Please Taxpayer, just work, pay and smile. It will save your brain some trouble.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Funny ()
Date: July 26, 2011 11:30AM

My seven year old son asked why they were closing his elementary school.

I told him it was all Liz Bradshers fault and that she is a moron. ha ha ha

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: hmmmmm ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:03PM

Don't worry, your kids will all still be going to University of Virginia and William and Mary even with the closing of Clifton Elementary.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: OMG! ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:08PM

Get a life people! Enough with the closing of our school.

We have moved on and so should you!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Joan ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:11PM

hmmmmm Wrote:
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> Don't worry, your kids will all still be going to
> University of Virginia and William and Mary even
> with the closing of Clifton Elementary.


My 8 year old son keeps crying when I tell him the new things he would have to deal with in his new school.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Go private ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:13PM

FCPS is going down the tubes.

I would not trust them with my dog.

You only have one chance for a good education. FCPS suck ass.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: How many kids went to Clifton? ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:22PM

I heard it was over 400. I feel sorry for all these kids being moved to four other schools.

Shame on FCPS!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Bemused ()
Date: July 27, 2011 11:02AM

Here's a recent press release from FCPS:

"Crouch School Scheduled to Move August 11

The one-room Crouch School, which was used to educate students in the Clifton area of Fairfax County from 1874 until the 1920s, will be moved from its current location at the corner of Union Mill and Compton Roads to the campus of Liberty Middle School. The target date for the move is Thursday, August 11.

Once it is moved to the Liberty site, the school will be used as a teaching museum to support elementary and middle school instruction by helping provide a “day in the life” experience of what school was like in the late 1800s.

Several contracting companies are donating part of their services to accomplish the move. Beginning Monday, July 25, a local carpentry company is removing the vinyl siding and additions and inserting structural bracing to secure the building during the move. The doors, windows, and stones from the foundation will be removed and salvaged. Once the structure has been moved, it will be set on a poured foundation slab and restored to its appearance as a one-room schoolhouse. New steps, a ramp, and access for people with physical disabilities will be provided, as well as electricity, heating, ventilation, and air conditioning, and other amenities. There will not be water at the site.

The Committee to Save Crouch School, a group of community members, was established in September 2006. A partner relationship was formed between Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) and the committee afterwards to move and restore the school. FCPS donated land on the grounds of Liberty Middle for the relocation of the old schoolhouse. The committee has raised $105,000 to date and has been the driving force in the effort to save and restore the building. The Providence Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) chose the school as its project and, since 2009, has been accepting donations to fund the move, restoration, maintenance, and operation of the school as a teaching museum. No FCPS funds are planned to be used for this project.

The Crouch School served FCPS students for almost 50 years. The Crouch family purchased the building back from the school system for $125 at auction in 1925. Thomas and Janey Nodeen own the land on which the Crouch School is located and have donated the building to FCPS.
The school’s existing sign and deed will be preserved along with the building itself.

More information can be found at http://savecrouchschool.org/home.htm."

Maybe they should move Clifton Elementary to Liberty as well, so future generations can get a "day in the life" experience on what it was like to get an education at a local community school before Liz Bradsher made a hash of things.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: confused ()
Date: July 27, 2011 11:13AM

Why even spend one dime on this.

No one cares!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: OMG No ()
Date: July 27, 2011 01:49PM

OMG! Wrote:
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> Get a life people! Enough with the closing of our
> school.
>
> We have moved on and so should you!


Obviously the community has not moved on by the number of new posts on this topic.

Perhaps you have, which is one person, or maybe a single family.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: well? ()
Date: August 05, 2011 01:09PM

Is Clifton ES still closed?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: karma ()
Date: August 06, 2011 05:10PM

How ironic that S&P has downgraded US treasury bonds which may affect FFX CO bond rating (sooner or later). The money that we need to borrow to renovate West Springfield (which got elevated on the renovation queue due to Clifton's closing) may now come at a higher price. Let's see how people feel about that bond referendum this time around (next election). The "borrowing environment" may not be all that it was in the past. This could be very sad for West Springfield.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: I vote No ()
Date: August 06, 2011 05:17PM

I will vote NO on any bonds for the FCPS.

They waste so much money on stupid shit. Enough already!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: meth ()
Date: August 06, 2011 05:41PM

rumour round here is that they are turnin it into a halfway house of some sort for drug users. Miighty kind of them folks

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: fo ()
Date: August 06, 2011 09:56PM

karma Wrote:
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> How ironic that S&P has downgraded US treasury
> bonds which may affect FFX CO bond rating (sooner
> or later). The money that we need to borrow to
> renovate West Springfield (which got elevated on
> the renovation queue due to Clifton's closing) may
> now come at a higher price. Let's see how people
> feel about that bond referendum this time around
> (next election). The "borrowing environment" may
> not be all that it was in the past. This could be
> very sad for West Springfield.


Why does anybody listen to S&P or Moody's?

They gave AAA ratings to securities backed by half million dollar mortgages taken out by McDonald's burger flippers.

Fuck them, they have zero credibility.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: isabelle ()
Date: September 02, 2011 07:50PM

now that my school is closing [im a student there] i just want to say that liz is such a @#$!% i really cant say how mad i aqm at her!she closed my school. she betrade us and i cant stop thinking about my school by closing my scholl she ganes NOTHING what she does gane is

.1 teachers losing their jobs

.2 she riped apart familys and friends

.3 she lost my respect how about yours?
now she is saying that we sould suck it up but i aint sucking anything plus make sure you ask yourself this question "what if this was happening to me"?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: traffic ()
Date: September 03, 2011 01:04PM

Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't represent the people who voted for her but turned on them instead just for her own self-interests. Thank goodness she isn't running for office again. She has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a lot of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and during the Open House there was no place for all of the people to park. A lot of parents with their children were parking and walking down Ox Road with cars flying by. If a child ever gets hurt on that road due to this overcrowded situation that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz Bradsher's fault.

Can't wait for election day so we can vote for Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a breath of fresh air after the nightmares Liz Bradsher has caused.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: overcrowded ()
Date: September 03, 2011 01:43PM

traffic Wrote:
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> Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't represent
> the people who voted for her but turned on them
> instead just for her own self-interests. Thank
> goodness she isn't running for office again. She
> has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a lot
> of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and during
> the Open House there was no place for all of the
> people to park. A lot of parents with their
> children were parking and walking down Ox Road
> with cars flying by. If a child ever gets hurt
> on that road due to this overcrowded situation
> that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz Bradsher's
> fault.
>
> Can't wait for election day so we can vote for
> Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a breath
> of fresh air after the nightmares Liz Bradsher has
> caused.


The overcrowding at Fairview now isn't just causing a safety problem for the kids on Ox Road, the parking lot was so full that it is doubtful that a Fire Truck or other emergency vehicle would have even have been able to get into that lot if they needed too.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Date: September 03, 2011 02:19PM

isabelle Wrote:
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> now that my school is closing i just want to say
> that liz is such a @#$!% i really cant say how mad
> i aqm at her!she closed my school. she betrade us
> and i cant stop thinking about my school by
> closing my scholl she ganes NOTHING what she does
> gane is
>
> .1 teachers losing their jobs
>
> .2 she riped apart familys and friends
>
> .3 she lost my respect how about yours?
> now she is saying that we sould suck it up but i
> aint sucking anything plus make sure you ask
> yourself this question "what if this was
> happening to me"?


How old are you? The grammatical and spelling errors of your post indicate that closing Clifton Elementary was probably the right move.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: September 03, 2011 02:27PM

traffic Wrote:
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> Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't represent
> the people who voted for her but turned on them
> instead just for her own self-interests. Thank
> goodness she isn't running for office again. She
> has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a lot
> of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and during
> the Open House there was no place for all of the
> people to park.
A lot of parents with their
> children were parking and walking down Ox Road
> with cars flying by. If a child ever gets hurt
> on that road due to this overcrowded situation
> that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz Bradsher's
> fault.
>
> Can't wait for election day so we can vote for
> Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a breath
> of fresh air after the nightmares Liz Bradsher has
> caused.


This is a problem for almost every school, elementary through high, when they have an event that's for the entire school. Ever try going past one of the high schools on Back to school night? Yeah, no parking, people walking on the main roads around it. Talk to the school's principal about splitting events in two. Have K-3 open house/etc at one time and 4-6 at another. This really isn't that hard, and going on and on about how Liz Bradsher caused all your problems makes you sound like a whiney brat. It's over. Clifton lost. Get on with your life.

If you really don't like it move.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: traffic ()
Date: September 03, 2011 03:42PM

Shadow Wrote:
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> traffic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't represent
> > the people who voted for her but turned on them
> > instead just for her own self-interests.
> Thank
> > goodness she isn't running for office again.
> She
> > has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a
> lot
> > of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and
> during
> > the Open House there was no place for all of
> the
> > people to park. A lot of parents with their
> > children were parking and walking down Ox Road
> > with cars flying by. If a child ever gets
> hurt
> > on that road due to this overcrowded situation
> > that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz
> Bradsher's
> > fault.
> >
> > Can't wait for election day so we can vote for
> > Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a
> breath
> > of fresh air after the nightmares Liz Bradsher
> has
> > caused.
>
>
> This is a problem for almost every school,
> elementary through high, when they have an event
> that's for the entire school. Ever try going past
> one of the high schools on Back to school night?
> Yeah, no parking, people walking on the main roads
> around it. Talk to the school's principal about
> splitting events in two. Have K-3 open house/etc
> at one time and 4-6 at another. This really isn't
> that hard, and going on and on about how Liz
> Bradsher caused all your problems makes you sound
> like a whiney brat. It's over. Clifton lost. Get
> on with your life.
>
> If you really don't like it move.


So your logic follows that because a dangerous condition may exist in multiple places, that makes it okay? Have you ever thought about making the people that are in charge of 54% of the County budget (your tax dollars) actually accountable for anything? It doesn't sound like you do. If multiple students start failing, why don't we just give them a pass too? It sounds like you have no standards for quality/safety and don't care about accountability either.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: September 03, 2011 04:09PM

traffic Wrote:
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> Shadow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > traffic Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't
> represent
> > > the people who voted for her but turned on
> them
> > > instead just for her own self-interests.
> > Thank
> > > goodness she isn't running for office again.
>
> > She
> > > has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a
> > lot
> > > of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and
> > during
> > > the Open House there was no place for all of
> > the
> > > people to park. A lot of parents with their
> > > children were parking and walking down Ox
> Road
> > > with cars flying by. If a child ever gets
> > hurt
> > > on that road due to this overcrowded
> situation
> > > that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz
> > Bradsher's
> > > fault.
> > >
> > > Can't wait for election day so we can vote
> for
> > > Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a
> > breath
> > > of fresh air after the nightmares Liz
> Bradsher
> > has
> > > caused.
> >
> >
> > This is a problem for almost every school,
> > elementary through high, when they have an
> event
> > that's for the entire school. Ever try going
> past
> > one of the high schools on Back to school night?
>
> > Yeah, no parking, people walking on the main
> roads
> > around it. Talk to the school's principal
> about
> > splitting events in two. Have K-3 open
> house/etc
> > at one time and 4-6 at another.
This really
> isn't
> > that hard, and going on and on about how Liz
> > Bradsher caused all your problems makes you
> sound
> > like a whiney brat. It's over. Clifton lost.
> Get
> > on with your life.
> >
> > If you really don't like it move.
>
>
> So your logic follows that because a dangerous
> condition may exist in multiple places, that makes
> it okay? Have you ever thought about making the
> people that are in charge of 54% of the County
> budget (your tax dollars) actually accountable for
> anything? It doesn't sound like you do. If
> multiple students start failing, why don't we just
> give them a pass too? It sounds like you have no
> standards for quality/safety and don't care about
> accountability either.

Clearly your reading comprehension is lacking. The section I put in bold gives a solution to the problem. And personally, I have spoken with my school's administrations and that's why my son's elementary school's open house was split. But, like everything in this area, there is a certain amount of bureaucratic red tape, and not all the schools I've dealt with have been as easily changed.

And while you may come on here and bitch and gripe about a problem that is long past its prime (Clifton ES) I prefer to exercise my civic duties more proactively and address the local school administrations and get involved more directly.

I really enjoy Fairfax Underground, and it can be a good place to vent about things that occur that one doesn't like, but really, the School Board voted to close Clifton. The courts have so far upheld that decision, and while I personally might have preferred the school remain open. It isn't. Get over it.

If you want to make a difference, go work on Bradsher's replacement's campaign. I'm sure they would be glad for the help.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Too bad ()
Date: September 03, 2011 04:27PM

It's a shame Liz isn't running, she'd probably win, thus causing multiple heads to explode in Clifton.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Gen braddock ()
Date: September 04, 2011 08:03AM

isabelle Wrote:
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> now that my school is closing i just want to say
> that liz is such a @#$!% i really cant say how mad
> i aqm at her!she closed my school. she betrade us
> and i cant stop thinking about my school by
> closing my scholl she ganes NOTHING what she does
> gane is
>
> .1 teachers losing their jobs
>
> .2 she riped apart familys and friends
>
> .3 she lost my respect how about yours?
> now she is saying that we sould suck it up but i
> aint sucking anything plus make sure you ask
> yourself this question "what if this was
> happening to me"?


I have respect for Liz because she followed through with the closing of CES because it was the right thing to do despite the opinions of a very vocal miniority.
You should be thankfull for the education you are getting, dont waste your time being bitter about things beyond your control. You have a great future ahead of you.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: BDS ()
Date: September 04, 2011 08:30AM

Too bad Wrote:
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> It's a shame Liz isn't running, she'd probably
> win, thus causing multiple heads to explode in
> Clifton.


Well, she's not. And Kathy Smith can kiss her board seat goodbye. She's hosed multiple schools with the trickle down from this decision. I wonder if Liz and the other 6 members who are running away think it was worth it. Moon is going down too for this and he didn't even vote for it because he saw the writing on the wall. New school board here we come.

Clifton reopens as a charter school and it's back to the way it was within a year. What a waste of time, money and emotions.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: curious? ()
Date: September 06, 2011 09:43PM

I'm curious, with the first day of class over, did the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded schools? What's it like being a Clifton refugee? Do the other kids point and stare?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: It was awful! ()
Date: September 06, 2011 10:14PM

curious? Wrote:
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> I'm curious, with the first day of class over, did
> the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> schools? What's it like being a Clifton refugee?
> Do the other kids point and stare?

I drove my daughter to school. It is too far for her to ride a bus! I counted two Chevys and three Fords in the kiss and ride line. There was a Hyundai and I believe even a Kia two vehicles behind mine!

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: curious? ()
Date: September 06, 2011 10:19PM

It was awful! Wrote:
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> curious? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm curious, with the first day of class over,
> did
> > the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> > schools? What's it like being a Clifton
> refugee?
> > Do the other kids point and stare?
>
> I drove my daughter to school. It is too far for
> her to ride a bus! I counted two Chevys and three
> Fords in the kiss and ride line. There was a
> Hyundai and I believe even a Kia two vehicles
> behind mine!

Were there, you know [lowers voice]...minorities? I hear it's so....worldly...at the new schools.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Soccer dad ()
Date: September 06, 2011 10:31PM

curious? Wrote:
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> I'm curious, with the first day of class over, did
> the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> schools? What's it like being a Clifton refugee?
> Do the other kids point and stare?


GREAT! My kids are 6th graders, and 5th graders at Fairview Elementary school now.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: September 07, 2011 06:54AM

curious? Wrote:
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> I'm curious, with the first day of class over, did
> the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> schools? What's it like being a Clifton refugee?
> Do the other kids point and stare?

School-wise it sounded like all was OK. Transportation-wise things were very screwed up. About 20 Fairview students were not on their buses heading home and had to be picked up by parents. A number of students were never picked up on the way to school. And a couple of buses actually used the Clifton Elementary parking lot as turnarounds for their routes. Nothing like taking the children to their old school and then to their new school.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: logicaldog ()
Date: September 07, 2011 07:18AM

Wow there are some snide and ignorant posters on this cite. You sound jealous of Clifton parents, I usually advocate for the middle class, but you just hate Clifton parents because they live in a nicer place than you. That's a crappy reason and most places that are nice have an adjacent school to go with them. (Oakton, McLean). It is better to have a small school-the middle and high school for Clifton is a Huge secondary big box school that rates low on the challenge index.Maybe that will make you feel better.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: dalrhren ()
Date: September 07, 2011 08:14AM

BDS Wrote:
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> Too bad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's a shame Liz isn't running, she'd probably
> > win, thus causing multiple heads to explode in
> > Clifton.
>
>
> Well, she's not. And Kathy Smith can kiss her
> board seat goodbye. She's hosed multiple schools
> with the trickle down from this decision. I
> wonder if Liz and the other 6 members who are
> running away think it was worth it. Moon is going
> down too for this and he didn't even vote for it
> because he saw the writing on the wall. New
> school board here we come.
>
> Clifton reopens as a charter school and it's back
> to the way it was within a year. What a waste of
> time, money and emotions.


Dont we wish people cared as much about how our national leaders are running, or not running the whole country?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: realist ()
Date: September 16, 2011 02:31PM

Shadow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> traffic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Liz Bradsher is a snake. She didn't represent
> > the people who voted for her but turned on them
> > instead just for her own self-interests.
> Thank
> > goodness she isn't running for office again.
> She
> > has hurt a lot of people and cost taxpayers a
> lot
> > of money. Fairview is overcrowded now and
> during
> > the Open House there was no place for all of
> the
> > people to park. A lot of parents with their
> > children were parking and walking down Ox Road
> > with cars flying by. If a child ever gets
> hurt
> > on that road due to this overcrowded situation
> > that Liz Bradsher has caused, it is Liz
> Bradsher's
> > fault.
> >
> > Can't wait for election day so we can vote for
> > Elizabeth Schultz. She is going to be a
> breath
> > of fresh air after the nightmares Liz Bradsher
> has
> > caused.
>
>
> This is a problem for almost every school,
> elementary through high, when they have an event
> that's for the entire school. Ever try going past
> one of the high schools on Back to school night?
> Yeah, no parking, people walking on the main roads
> around it. Talk to the school's principal about
> splitting events in two. Have K-3 open house/etc
> at one time and 4-6 at another. This really isn't
> that hard, and going on and on about how Liz
> Bradsher caused all your problems makes you sound
> like a whiney brat. It's over. Clifton lost. Get
> on with your life.
>
> If you really don't like it move.

So glad this worked for your school---you are such a great problem solver! If only Fairview had thought of that!! Oh, wait, they DID. Fairview broke up their back-to-school nights as you described. People still had to park on rt. 123 and Burke Centre Parkway, and police had to direct traffic.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: glad ()
Date: September 16, 2011 05:14PM

Ms.Miler is very nice Principal and her vp is very nice as well. I'm very glad that they are working together at Kenne Mill Elementary

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Truth!! ()
Date: September 16, 2011 10:03PM

logicaldog Wrote:
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>but you
> just hate Clifton parents because they live in a
> nicer place than you.

Actually, that's not true. I don't hate Clifton parents, only their actions on smearing the school board, filing frivolous lawsuits, and their endless whining on this board about their school closing.

My neighborhood is also much nicer than Clifton.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Klifton ()
Date: September 16, 2011 10:07PM

Is there any chance a new school board will reopen Clifton ES? Or do they have to wait for Czar Tisdadt to retire first?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Divide is there ()
Date: September 17, 2011 11:44AM

People who think that lack of diversity in a school breeds racism are very misinformed. You will find plenty of racism (and possibly more) in those "diverse" schools you speak of. Those of you who believe that the Clifton kids will suffer are misinformed. You will find that most people are largely products of their family life and parents' income/educational level and stability. That has not changed for the Clifton people. The majority of the Clifton parents and kids will do fine no matter where they go (within reason and the new schools are definitely within reason---we're not talking about shipping people from the upper echelons into the ghettos of America). People on this forum make way too much out of Clifton (as has been pointed out it ain't McLean/Langley). Anybody in America who has real money sends their kids to private schools (and there may be some in Clifton who do that, but we are not talking about those kids when we talk about the 400 who were at the Clifton Elementary School). Most people in this area who do private schools live closer to the District or Alexandria/Arlington areas where they have easier access to the best privates. Diversity in Fairfax County is mostly immigrants who are striving and working hard (why do people make it sound so dire?). The schools in Fairfax are pretty good. What the Clifton people are upset about is the division of their community--sending the kids to 4 different schools---which is a valid argument. Most people in America value a sense of community and their schools (especially at the elementary level) are part of that. It is getting harder and harder to create geographic community in America. Our kids will find their communities online in the future for better or for worse. There will continue to be housing enclaves based on income (of course---who wants to live in a crime ridden area?)---but school and other activities will not be as much of a "glue" as people will be less likely to know their neighbors---which may not be so great in times of disaster---but that's how it's going to be---everyone on their cell phones or Facebook or whatever. This is the new America.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: dell ave. ()
Date: September 17, 2011 08:45PM

curious? Wrote:
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> I'm curious, with the first day of class over, did
> the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> schools? What's it like being a Clifton refugee?
> Do the other kids point and stare?


Sure, the Clifton kids will have it rough for a few months but this is good for them in the long run.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Simple question ()
Date: September 17, 2011 09:25PM

dell ave. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> curious? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm curious, with the first day of class over,
> did
> > the kids from Clifton end up in now-overcrowded
> > schools? What's it like being a Clifton
> refugee?
> > Do the other kids point and stare?
>
>
> Sure, the Clifton kids will have it rough for a
> few months but this is good for them in the long
> run.

Why?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: The truth! ()
Date: September 18, 2011 03:47PM

Divide is there Wrote:
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tl;dr

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: The truth! ()
Date: September 18, 2011 03:48PM

Klifton Wrote:
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> Is there any chance a new school board will reopen
> Clifton ES? Or do they have to wait for Czar
> Tisdadt to retire first?

Irreparable damage from the two tropical storms, no chance.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: herewegoagain ()
Date: September 18, 2011 06:09PM

The truth! Wrote:
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>
>
> Irreparable damage from the two tropical storms,
> no chance.



According to whom and exactly what kind of damage?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: September 19, 2011 02:04AM

Clifton Elementary School has been burnt to the ground as of September 18th - no need to post anymore, it is over.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: the truth! ()
Date: September 19, 2011 08:36PM

herewegoagain Wrote:
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> The truth! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Irreparable damage from the two tropical
> storms,
> > no chance.
>
>
>
> According to whom and exactly what kind of damage?

Flooding and water. It was discussed in private closed door school
board meetings, and in emails between Dr Dale and Dean Tisdadt. Sounds
like a demolition RFP is in progress.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: dell ave ()
Date: October 14, 2011 09:54PM

glad Wrote:
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> Ms.Miler is very nice Principal and her vp is very
> nice as well. I'm very glad that they are working
> together at Kenne Mill Elementary


I bet they are so happy to be free of the ultra selfish Clifton Moms.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: blahblahblah ()
Date: October 15, 2011 12:24AM

really? pictures?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: crying ()
Date: October 16, 2011 09:32PM

blahblahblah Wrote:
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> really? pictures?


I cry because I remember going to this school from 19844-1990.I remember going to Camp Hamlock. and now is no longer a school in FCPS. My grandpa went to this school. we used to share story's about it. My son will be 10 year old next week, He has to take the school bus for an half hour trip to his school because he doesn't have a school in the city he lives in, I can't believe this happen in America. I thought we where better than this. This looks like something that happens in Africa or Iraq.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: logicaldog ()
Date: October 17, 2011 07:52AM

wow I like that imaginary fire, flood and damage. No, theres nothing wrong with the building, county hates Clifton because they consider them elitists, they like passive, docile and stupid parents who will let them torture their kids...

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: to crying ()
Date: October 17, 2011 03:22PM

crying Wrote:
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> blahblahblah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > really? pictures?
>
>
> I cry because I remember going to this school from
> 19844-1990.I remember going to Camp Hamlock.
> and now is no longer a school in FCPS. My grandpa
> went to this school. we used to share story's
> about it. My son will be 10 year old next week,
> He has to take the school bus for an half hour
> trip to his school because he doesn't have a
> school in the city he lives in, I can't believe
> this happen in America. I thought we where better
> than this. This looks like something that happens
> in Africa or Iraq.

Your kid has to ride a school bus for 30 minutes each day and this remind you of Africa or Iraq?

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: blahblahblah ()
Date: October 17, 2011 04:04PM

crying Wrote:
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> blahblahblah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > really? pictures?
>
>
> I cry because I remember going to this school from
> 19844-1990.I remember going to Camp Hamlock.
> and now is no longer a school in FCPS. My grandpa
> went to this school. we used to share story's
> about it. My son will be 10 year old next week,
> He has to take the school bus for an half hour
> trip to his school because he doesn't have a
> school in the city he lives in, I can't believe
> this happen in America. I thought we where better
> than this. This looks like something that happens
> in Africa or Iraq.

wow, look at all the shits i give about your poor unfortunate child. He's probably used to his new school by now. stop your whining.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: You do not know me ()
Date: October 17, 2011 06:22PM

I don't speak for all of Clifton but many kids do wonder why the school sign is still up and has it's lights on.

I am not asking for answer I am just saying it is a waste of taxpayer money to have the sign still up and running.

I have moved on. Now demolish the sign and get on with it.

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: blahblahblah ()
Date: October 17, 2011 09:14PM

hey, how about this? how about we take all of the money used to keep schools that suck open (ex., Clifton Elementary), and use it to repair schools that need them? (ex. Herndon/West Springfield High School, Mountain View, etc.)

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Re: CLIFTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Posted by: Justataxpayer ()
Date: October 17, 2011 11:05PM

blahblahblah Wrote:
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> hey, how about this? how about we take all of the
> money used to keep schools that suck open (ex.,
> Clifton Elementary), and use it to repair schools
> that need them? (ex. Herndon/West Springfield High
> School, Mountain View, etc.)

You clearly have no idea how this works. First you have to find a School Board member who wants a new school in their district but is not needed and then you have to wait your turn in the queue to get a posh renovated facility....oh, but wait it gets better! That new school that isn't needed took 60% of the funds that would be used to renovate your falling down, leaking when it mists outside school AND you got left off the queue. So now you get suckered in to writing to the rest of the School Board asking coyly that they not renovate a small school but instead bump your school up the queue. And in the end, when the dust has settled, you are still screwed because your kid that is currently in the 4th grade STILL won't see a renovated WSHS.

One other point, the costs to renovate Clifton would not have covered 15% of the coats to upgrade Herndon OR WSHS and likely less than 20% of the cost to upgrade Mountain View.

Clifton sucked because more than 90% of the students passed the SOLs every year? Nice, you must love the quality of education provided by FCPS at other schools then.

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