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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Keeping it real ()
Date: November 05, 2017 07:57AM

westfield, my westfield Wrote:
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> Page 10 should be started by a Westfield suppoter,
> don't ya think?


Yes, so it shall be. :o)

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: November 05, 2017 08:45AM

Everything in life begins and ends with Westfield

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: pass the vaseline Bulldoggie ()
Date: November 05, 2017 08:52AM

Westfield BUlldogs - time for another circle jerk or dixie cupping

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: inflatedrecord ()
Date: November 05, 2017 11:43AM

Westfield has played their weakest schedule in many years maybe ever. That is a very unimpressive 10-0. Battlefield will choke them out first round. They are one and done this year. Final score: Battlefild 17-Westfield 12.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Umm.. ()
Date: November 05, 2017 03:16PM

inflatedrecord Wrote:
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> Westfield has played their weakest schedule in
> many years maybe ever. That is a very
> unimpressive 10-0. Battlefield will choke them
> out first round. They are one and done this year.
> Final score: Battlefild 17-Westfield 12.

You're not completely wrong about their schedule.... but Battlefield? Really? Hell no...

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: November 05, 2017 05:07PM

By the way, does anyone have the complete 6A standings, for all 17 teams in D (Northern) and all 18 teams in C (Occoquan)?

If anyone does, can you post them, please? Thanks.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: inflatedrecord ()
Date: November 05, 2017 08:23PM

Umm.. Wrote:
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> inflatedrecord Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield has played their weakest schedule in
> > many years maybe ever. That is a very
> > unimpressive 10-0. Battlefield will choke them
> > out first round. They are one and done this
> year.
> > Final score: Battlefild 17-Westfield 12.
>
> You're not completely wrong about their
> schedule.... but Battlefield? Really? Hell no...

Why not?

Common Opponentz:

Battlefield 33 – Oakton 13
Westfeld 34 – Oaktan 14

Battlefield 38 – Chantilly 7
Westfield 46 – Chantill 7

Battlefild 28 – Stonewall Jackson 0
Westfield 21 – Stonewall Jackson 0

Patriot 14 – Battlefield 7
Westfield 46 – Patriot 33

Discount the Patriot result because Battlefield-Patriot is hometown rivalry. Battlefild has the better defense given up less points.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: WF FB 2K18 ()
Date: November 05, 2017 08:44PM

inflatedrecord Wrote:
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> Umm.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > inflatedrecord Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Westfield has played their weakest schedule
> in
> > > many years maybe ever. That is a very
> > > unimpressive 10-0. Battlefield will choke
> them
> > > out first round. They are one and done this
> > year.
> > > Final score: Battlefild 17-Westfield 12.
> >
> > You're not completely wrong about their
> > schedule.... but Battlefield? Really? Hell
> no...
>
> Why not?
>
> Common Opponentz:
>
> Battlefield 33 – Oakton 13
> Westfeld 34 – Oaktan 14
>
> Battlefield 38 – Chantilly 7
> Westfield 46 – Chantill 7
>
> Battlefild 28 – Stonewall Jackson 0
> Westfield 21 – Stonewall Jackson 0
>
> Patriot 14 – Battlefield 7
> Westfield 46 – Patriot 33
>
> Discount the Patriot result because
> Battlefield-Patriot is hometown rivalry.
> Battlefild has the better defense given up less
> points.
Common opponent's is a horrible way to judge opponents,

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: HHV67 ()
Date: November 06, 2017 09:07AM

> inflatedrecord Wrote:
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> Common opponent's is a horrible way to judge
> opponents,

Lol, since you appear to think schedule is the metric, when you eliminate common opps that they both beat:

Westfield beat two mid-tiers: Springfield and WestPo and beat five playoff teams: SOCO (8), Madison (6), LB (3), Centreville (3) and Patriot (5)

while

Battlefield beat four chumps: Colgan, Forest Park, Osbourn, Osbourn Park and lost to all three playoff teams Hylton (5), Woodbridge (2) and Patriot (5)

Whom had the weak schedule?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: CJ9UX ()
Date: November 06, 2017 12:53PM

Anyone know where the All-Conf lists are posted?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: I'm here for ya ()
Date: November 06, 2017 03:30PM

CJ9UX Wrote:
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> Anyone know where the All-Conf lists are posted?


Yes, here:

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/westfield-bulldogs-(chantilly,va)/football/roster.htm

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Fool me once... ()
Date: November 06, 2017 03:36PM

I'm here for ya Wrote:
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> CJ9UX Wrote:
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> > Anyone know where the All-Conf lists are
> posted?

> Yes, here:
>
> http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/westfield-bul
> ldogs-(chantilly,va)/football/

Can’t believe I fell for that, good one....(sorry but that list looks like the HM list)

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: I DON'T TINK SO.........MAAAAAN! ()
Date: November 06, 2017 05:09PM

Good afternoon.

In lieu of tonight's LBSS Booster Club meeting, I wanted to make sure you are all aware of the following:

Per letter dated November 2nd 2017, the United States Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights has announced that they have opened and will be conducting a formal investigation of the events that occurred at Lake Braddock regarding both the sexual harassment that occurred during the 2015-16 season on the LBSS girl's varsity basketball team and the subsequent sham investigations and cover-up by FCPS administrators and the Fairfax County School Board.

Presumably, this investigation will include LBSS Athletic Director Karl Kern's involvement in the retaliatory employment action taken against former LBSS football coach Jim Poythress and all of the actions taken by LBSS Principal Dave Thomas in response to the harassment that occurred.

Two additional/related items for you:

1. School Board Member Megan McLaughlin will be hosting a community round-table discussion at LBSS this Wednesday November 8th from 7:00 - 8:30 pm in the multi-purpose room (enter at Door #17 just to the right of the front entrance). The round-table discussion will focus on the upcoming budget projections, the new superintendent's goals, as well as any other issues or concerns you wish to discuss (i.e. the just announced federal investigation).

2. You can also ask Principal Thomas and/or Schoolboard member McLaughlin on when you can catch the next presentation of Principal Thomas' "Bulletproof" professional development seminar - which has been wildly popular among FCPS administrators and school board members, Virginia Department of Education officials, and Superintendents and executives of neighboring school districts. Please see below for a previous invitation that was sent out that explicitly details the topics that Principal Thomas will cover in his presentation.

P.S. In case you missed it back at the end of June, here is the Washington Post article that details what occurred that precipitated the federal investigation:
https://www.washingtonpost. com/sports/highschools/at- lake-braddock-sexual- harassment-accusations- personnel-changes-and- lingering-resentment/2017/06/ 29/59a3d00e-5536-11e7-a204- ad706461fa4f_story.html?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Nostra Dumb Ass ()
Date: November 06, 2017 06:50PM

Freedom 31 Westfield 24


Just a feeling...

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Freedom Rings ()
Date: November 06, 2017 07:48PM

What makes this country/county so great is that we all have the Freedom to Ring up which teams we feel will win the game.

What makes this last post so impressive is that it is simple and to the point without any of the nasty comments or cursing which we have come to see of late.

Best of luck to your line on the Freedom Westfield game.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Mista Mista ()
Date: November 07, 2017 08:41PM

Anyone have the spread on the Lake Braddock vs. TC game this Friday?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: WTDUN ()
Date: November 08, 2017 10:58AM

Who will get fired / resign from the teams that are out?

Who should be fired, but won’t be?

Let’s go playoffs!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: playoffs ()
Date: November 08, 2017 01:35PM

I think everyone will agree that Lake Braddock is the team to beat in the playoffs

They have made a run of 7 straight victories now and will play TC Williams on Friday night

Can anyone stop the mighty Bruins

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: About that..... ()
Date: November 08, 2017 01:58PM

playoffs Wrote:
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> I think everyone will agree that Lake Braddock is
> the team to beat in the playoffs
>
> They have made a run of 7 straight victories now
> and will play TC Williams on Friday night
>
> Can anyone stop the mighty Bruins

You may squeak by TCW but no way you get past Woodbridge, they are going to smoke you guys and if by some small miracle you get past the (like the whole team comes down with the flu that week) your definitely not beating A.J.(leading candidate for POY) and Freedom.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: HYJCJ ()
Date: November 08, 2017 02:03PM

playoffs Wrote:
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> I think everyone will agree that Lake Braddock is
> the team to beat in the playoffs
>
> They have made a run of 7 straight victories now
> and will play TC Williams on Friday night
>
> Can anyone stop the mighty Bruins

You lost to WHS, SB & West Potomac, who didn’t even qualify for playoffs. What a joke. Soft schedule. lol. Go away troll.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Concorde fan ()
Date: November 08, 2017 03:52PM

Oakton’s Jason Rowley resigns after school today.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: I wish ()
Date: November 08, 2017 05:16PM

Concorde fan Wrote:
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> Oakton’s Jason Rowley resigns after school
> today.

Naww they'll never get rid of Rowley sadly, the least he could do is get his damn team in the weight room

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Concorde group ()
Date: November 08, 2017 05:24PM

I wish Wrote:
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> Concorde fan Wrote:
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> > Oakton’s Jason Rowley resigns after school
> > today.
>
> Naww they'll never get rid of Rowley sadly, the
> least he could do is get his damn team in the
> weight room

It's official... Most of the coaching staff is also leaving

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Oakton fan ()
Date: November 08, 2017 06:19PM

regarding the weight room - you can lead a horse to water .... Oakton kids would rather take AP classes then get a lift in.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Chain Gang ()
Date: November 08, 2017 07:45PM

I have to tell you - I worked the chains in a game two years ago on Oakton's side.

Was very impressed with the way he handled himself, the way he handled the kids,

and the strategy he and his staff employed during the game. They lost, but even

then he made sure his kids composed themselves and were great sports. I don't
believe that

he has gotten worse as a coach - his talent pool has dwindled. Mark my

words - affluent white areas are going to continue to lose their athletes

because the parents aren't going to want little Johnny to off himself a few

years after he has four or five concussions.

Bottom line - he was a credit to coaching and a school could do a lot worse

especially compared to some of the abject assholes who patrol some of the other

sidelines.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Former cougar ()
Date: November 08, 2017 07:58PM

As a former player for Oakton, they made a mistake not keeping Rowley as an assistant coach. All the player's respected him, he is an extremely classy man i may not agree with the way he coached but he will be missed wasn't the Best head coach but he was one hell of a coach

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Is it just me? ()
Date: November 08, 2017 08:11PM

I am a big fan of local high school football and believe that Northern Virginia has quite a few tremendous programs. Is it just me or is anyone else rooting for Stone Bridge to lose, even if they make it to the championship and play Highland Springs or Hermitage? Normally I would always pull for the local team but I just can't do it with them. Have you seen the interviews on Gameday Magazine or anywhere this year? The arrogance turns me against them. Plus, I really don't like how they get away with plucking kids away year after year. They take the best kid from Briar Woods last year, he gets hurt, but don't worry - they already stole Atlee's running back, who is a difference maker. Would just love to see Tuscarora or Broad Run (both already played them close) defeat them in the region.I know they are not in Fairfax but it is playoff time and the Loudoun schools will be playing Fairfax and Arlington schools this week.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: cfhmx ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:05PM

Is it just me? Wrote:
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> I am a big fan of local high school football and
> believe that Northern Virginia has quite a few
> tremendous programs. Is it just me or is anyone
> else rooting for Stone Bridge to lose, even if
> they make it to the championship and play Highland
> Springs or Hermitage? Normally I would always pull
> for the local team but I just can't do it with
> them. Have you seen the interviews on Gameday
> Magazine or anywhere this year? The arrogance
> turns me against them. Plus, I really don't like
> how they get away with plucking kids away year
> after year. They take the best kid from Briar
> Woods last year, he gets hurt, but don't worry -
> they already stole Atlee's running back, who is a
> difference maker. Would just love to see Tuscarora
> or Broad Run (both already played them close)
> defeat them in the region.I know they are not in
> Fairfax but it is playoff time and the Loudoun
> schools will be playing Fairfax and Arlington
> schools this week.

Guess you don't have any problem with Centreville taking Woodson and Fairfax best running backs.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: 3JUDC ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:18PM

cfhmx Wrote:
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> Is it just me? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am a big fan of local high school football
> and
> > believe that Northern Virginia has quite a few
> > tremendous programs. Is it just me or is anyone
> > else rooting for Stone Bridge to lose, even if
> > they make it to the championship and play
> Highland
> > Springs or Hermitage? Normally I would always
> pull
> > for the local team but I just can't do it with
> > them. Have you seen the interviews on Gameday
> > Magazine or anywhere this year? The arrogance
> > turns me against them. Plus, I really don't
> like
> > how they get away with plucking kids away year
> > after year. They take the best kid from Briar
> > Woods last year, he gets hurt, but don't worry
> -
> > they already stole Atlee's running back, who is
> a
> > difference maker. Would just love to see
> Tuscarora
> > or Broad Run (both already played them close)
> > defeat them in the region.I know they are not
> in
> > Fairfax but it is playoff time and the Loudoun
> > schools will be playing Fairfax and Arlington
> > schools this week.
>
> Guess you don't have any problem with Centreville
> taking Woodson and Fairfax best running backs.

How do you know these schools are "taking" these kids? Maybe the kids what to go to a school where they will have a chance to win, or a program with more dedication to football.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:35PM

Rowley leaving - end of an era. Wow. Any chance the school can bring in someone good, or is the program officially dead?

It was a time for a change. The kids quit on him.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: tillysdeadcharger ()
Date: November 08, 2017 10:16PM

Oakton Wrote:
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> Rowley leaving - end of an era. Wow. Any chance
> the school can bring in someone good, or is the
> program officially dead?
>
> It was a time for a change. The kids quit on him.

You can plan to go 0-10 next year. Chantilly axed a great veteran coach too. Coaching changes are not always what they are cracked up to be.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Idea man ()
Date: November 08, 2017 10:37PM

Maybe Tilley and Oakton can combine their programs? Any chance they'd go .500 next year?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: NOVAFOOTBALL23 ()
Date: November 09, 2017 10:47AM

Have you seen what has happened at TC and Mt Vernon the last 2 years - Coaching changes can have a huge impact...Oakton should go try to get one of those guys

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: concorde kid ()
Date: November 09, 2017 10:51AM

Nobody wants the Oakton job. They are going to have to hire someone with little to no experience or a retread that in trying to make a splash in the concorde. The school is a country club. That staff did everything the could to make that team competitive year in and year out. There has to be a reason why the entire coaching staff would walk away.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: NOVA? ()
Date: November 09, 2017 10:52AM

Mount Vernon and TC are two completely different birds. Those schools have talent. You bring in the right coach and those places take off. It is hard to find the right person for those schools, but if you do it can be very successful.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: NOVAFOOTBALL23 ()
Date: November 09, 2017 10:56AM

NOVA? Wrote:
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> Mount Vernon and TC are two completely different
> birds. Those schools have talent. You bring in
> the right coach and those places take off. It is
> hard to find the right person for those schools,
> but if you do it can be very successful.


What talent does Mount Vernon have? I went to their game last year vs. Annandale(go Atoms!) and they dont have any game changers...the head coach drives high school football...yes, you need talent but I think the TC guy could do alot at Oakton...he seems like a power guy and that is what they need

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: oakton ()
Date: November 09, 2017 11:47AM

Word on the street is that there was a cadre of parents that made life miserable for the coaching staff. Given how little FCPS compensates coaches, no wonder why they'd want to walk away. Some thought the parent issue would go away when a certain player graduated last year, but it's only gotten worse.

Given the importance of off-season training and planning, they don't have the luxury of waiting until June to hire a new coach. They have to move quickly, or else risk having a late hire and only 30 kids trying out next year.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Dave Thomas ()
Date: November 09, 2017 06:47PM

HEY BUDDY! I don't TINK SO!!!!! I believe the school board knows where Karl & I work. They certainly know where we are during "Lunch Time," that would be Chick-Fil-A or 5 Guys both in Burke. You would think if they want us, they would grab us @ 1 of those 3 places. Or perhaps they could catch us in The Mosaic district for most evenings @ Happy Hour & usually a couple of our buddies from Gate House across the street are pounding drinks and scarfing down Wings & apps. Actually Karl shut down the kitchen last week, ABSOLUTELY as true as the day is long. Well that was before day light savings.
I gotta run as shots and mini burgers just got here, and I need at least 1 before Karl scarfs them all.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Rowley sucked ()
Date: November 09, 2017 10:44PM

Sorry but the only people on here defending inept Rowley would be either himself, or his silly coaching staff led by the fat man Glufing. Oakton has recent region championships in lax, baseball, solid at basketball... and you really think the issue is the parents? All those bums will do is cite the past or complain about redistricting to South Lakes as a reason for giving up 40+ a game. I sincerely hope that no other football player in the county ever has to deal with the bullshit enabled by Rowley & Gang ever again. The entire staff is walking away because they literally created a toxic program centered around the ego of some angry midget who'd rather such his own dick than change personnel or gamelan for an opponent. I must say, or at least in my observations as an Oakton parent who has direct ties with the program, if you knew coach Rowley... than your kid would see the field! They've run daddy-ball there for a bit now and it's nice to see it finally bite those fuckers in the ass! If Oakton and more specifically Oakton parents are the issue, explain why Oakton now has claim to 3 of the last 5 Wells Fargo cups? Or why our boys spring teams are historically so dominant?
Doesn't matter, Rowley and Rowley alone screwed up this entire situation. He left the program in a significantly worse position than he inherited. Happy trails, enjoy being an English teacher you bum!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 09, 2017 11:45PM

Oakton fans keep complaining about the South Lakes redistricting but you don't see Westfield fans doing the same although they lost players too.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: PFT ()
Date: November 10, 2017 12:46AM

Rowley sucked Wrote:
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> Sorry but the only people on here defending inept
> Rowley would be either himself, or his silly
> coaching staff led by the fat man Glufing. Oakton
> has recent region championships in lax, baseball,
> solid at basketball... and you really think the
> issue is the parents? All those bums will do is
> cite the past or complain about redistricting to
> South Lakes as a reason for giving up 40+ a game.
> I sincerely hope that no other football player in
> the county ever has to deal with the bullshit
> enabled by Rowley & Gang ever again. The entire
> staff is walking away because they literally
> created a toxic program centered around the ego of
> some angry midget who'd rather such his own dick
> than change personnel or gamelan for an opponent.
> I must say, or at least in my observations as an
> Oakton parent who has direct ties with the
> program, if you knew coach Rowley... than your kid
> would see the field! They've run daddy-ball there
> for a bit now and it's nice to see it finally bite
> those fuckers in the ass! If Oakton and more
> specifically Oakton parents are the issue, explain
> why Oakton now has claim to 3 of the last 5 Wells
> Fargo cups? Or why our boys spring teams are
> historically so dominant?
> Doesn't matter, Rowley and Rowley alone screwed up
> this entire situation. He left the program in a
> significantly worse position than he inherited.
> Happy trails, enjoy being an English teacher you
> bum!

He's a special ed English teacher, lol
And Gufling fuck that prick

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Oakton Dad ()
Date: November 10, 2017 02:13AM

The rest of us patents will be happy your one son is graduating and we hope your other son doesn’t come back. One less drunk jerk in the stands. Keep making your kids proud of you.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: NOVA Watcher ()
Date: November 10, 2017 07:33AM

Oakton will really miss Coach Rowley and his staff. They played sound football with less talent most years. I think Oakton is going to be terrible for several years now. Not only will they lose, but they won't be competitive.
There has been a trend over the past 5 years that wealthy suburban schools like Oakton, Woodson, West Springfield, Langley, Chantilly, and Robinson have really seen their talent drop off. As a fan, the size and speed difference is noticeable from the stands. Even Westfield isn't as talented as they were 5-6 years ago. The weight room and good coaching can close the gap somewhat, but you can never fully replace talent.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Not really ()
Date: November 10, 2017 10:48AM

NOVA Watcher Wrote:
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> There has been a trend over the past 5 years that
> wealthy suburban schools like Oakton, Woodson,
> West Springfield, Langley, Chantilly, and Robinson
> have really seen their talent drop off. As a fan,
> the size and speed difference is noticeable from
> the stands. Even Westfield isn't as talented as
> they were 5-6 years ago. The weight room and good
> coaching can close the gap somewhat, but you can
> never fully replace talent.

You're wrong. Woodson, West Springfield, and Langley have never been that good. They're always in the middle-bottom of the pack. By your logic, Madison and South Lakes should suck too but they've been looking great these past two years. Even Marshall is looking good. The bottom line is that the coaching at Oakton and Chantilly is terrible and needs to change. There's talent there but it's not being put to use. Shit when I was in high school, our varsity head coach would walk the hallways in the Spring to find some big linemen or single sport guys to try and talk into trying out the following season. You, as a coach, have to motive guys to want to come out and play. There's more to being a head coach than Xs and Os

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Really not really ()
Date: November 10, 2017 11:16AM

The areas are changing. The reality is the upper middle class that has made places like Chantilly and Oakton competitive in the past have all moved to Loudon County. Centreville, South Lakes, Westfield, Robinson, and those areas have not really been impacted because they have the middle class neighborhoods where you get your blur collar depth players, and they have lower income families where you get your skill. Oakton and Chantilly housing costs are nuts. Living in Franklin Farm and Oak Hill require some cash. Also, a lot of those single family homes have not turned over. Those new families who should be moving in to those areas have moved to Loudon for better prices and land. Just look at the rosters of Broad Run, Stonebridge, ect.
Oakton and Chantilly will continue to be competitive in country club sports and baseball/lax. But both school will be the bottom of the football pool for a long time.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Translator ()
Date: November 10, 2017 11:24AM

^^^^ when he says "blur collar" he means poor white trash. When he says "skill", he means black.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: pthnd ()
Date: November 10, 2017 12:13PM

Translator Wrote:
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> ^^^^ when he says "blur collar" he means poor
> white trash. When he says "skill", he means
> black.

Thanks for that. Had no idea. It's actually got a grain of truth to it.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: DCBEU ()
Date: November 10, 2017 01:38PM

Really not really Wrote:
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> The areas are changing. The reality is the upper
> middle class that has made places like Chantilly
> and Oakton competitive in the past have all moved
> to Loudon County. Centreville, South Lakes,
> Westfield, Robinson, and those areas have not
> really been impacted because they have the middle
> class neighborhoods where you get your blur collar
> depth players, and they have lower income families
> where you get your skill. Oakton and Chantilly
> housing costs are nuts. Living in Franklin Farm
> and Oak Hill require some cash. Also, a lot of
> those single family homes have not turned over.
> Those new families who should be moving in to
> those areas have moved to Loudon for better prices
> and land. Just look at the rosters of Broad Run,
> Stonebridge, ect.
> Oakton and Chantilly will continue to be
> competitive in country club sports and
> baseball/lax. But both school will be the bottom
> of the football pool for a long time.

You have plenty of apartments around Greenbrier to get your “skill” players and GB itself has plenty of kids for your “blue collar” players. Quit making excuses. You have had coaching issues for a while and Lalli though not great was able to get the most out of what was there, he was just understaffed.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: The Wonder Years ()
Date: November 10, 2017 01:42PM

> You have plenty of apartments around Greenbrier to
> get your “skill” players and GB itself has
> plenty of kids for your “blue collar” players.
> Quit making excuses. You have had coaching issues
> for a while and Lalli though not great was able to
> get the most out of what was there, he was just
> understaffed.

Sad that 6-4 and out in 1st rd of playoffs under Lalli will be our Wonder Years.
Any chance he’ll come back next year?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Looks like momma's wrong again ()
Date: November 10, 2017 01:43PM

Really not really Wrote:
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> The areas are changing. The reality is the upper
> middle class that has made places like Chantilly
> and Oakton competitive in the past have all moved
> to Loudon County. Centreville, South Lakes,
> Westfield, Robinson, and those areas have not
> really been impacted because they have the middle
> class neighborhoods where you get your blur collar
> depth players, and they have lower income families
> where you get your skill. Oakton and Chantilly
> housing costs are nuts. Living in Franklin Farm
> and Oak Hill require some cash.

Bro, Vienna is way more expensive to live in than Chantilly and it has less lower income areas than the Oakton district. Somehow Madison doesn't seem to have a problem getting their "blue collar" and "skill" players. Same goes for South Lake and Marshall. I've seen Oakton and Chantilly play this year and they had plenty of your "skill" players on the team. The fact you're trying to argue that the lower income areas are better because they field more blue collar and skill players is absolutely ridicules. By those standards the top teams in the area should be Edison, Herndon, Annandale, Wakefield, and so on. Yeah those teams had a combined record of 13-27 this year so there goes your narrative. Stop making excuses. Shitty coaching is whats causing the downfall of those two football programs.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Again... ()
Date: November 10, 2017 09:11PM

56-13
John Champe in, Falls Church OUT!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Westfield of dreams ()
Date: November 10, 2017 10:06PM

I thought the Centreville coach was saving his playbook for the rematch vs Madison. Good idea. Have a nice winter.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 10, 2017 10:07PM

James Madison 22 Centreville 15 Final

Warhawk 30 yard touchdown pass on 4th and 6 Patrick Berry to John Finney with 25 seconds left

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: go bull frogs ()
Date: November 10, 2017 10:36PM

First time seeing Hylton play this season. That Penn State commit is crazy good. Best RB I've seen in years.

How good is PWC this year? Hylton was 7-3 and beat Hayfield with ease. I mean, this game was never competitive after Hayfield's first drive. Total domination.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Scrub Schedule ()
Date: November 10, 2017 11:01PM

go bull frogs Wrote:
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> First time seeing Hylton play this season. That
> Penn State commit is crazy good. Best RB I've seen
> in years.
>
> How good is PWC this year? Hylton was 7-3 and beat
> Hayfield with ease. I mean, this game was never
> competitive after Hayfield's first drive. Total
> domination.

Hatfield didn't play anyone good so....
They got dominated by Robinson, hell Fairfax, Oakton almost beat them. Same goes for Mount Vernon, Marshall easy schedule won't get you anything but a beat down in the playoffs, but props to Freedom that's a damn good team

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Centreville stands ()
Date: November 10, 2017 11:27PM

Coach Haddock calls a good offense. Defense has been an huge issue the past few seasons. There is no sense of organization.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: crispair ()
Date: November 11, 2017 08:51AM

That nigger running back from Hylton is really good. Hayfield was totally dominated after the first few minutes.
Mt. Vernon's weak schedule was also exposed, although they have made tremendous improvement from where they were a few years ago.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 11, 2017 08:53AM

Centreville stands Wrote:
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> Coach Haddock calls a good offense. Defense has
> been an huge issue the past few seasons. There is
> no sense of organization.

Agreed. Centreville's defense has definitely unperformed this year. Too many breakdowns for no explicable reason. They have as much talent as anyone on that side of the ball. More was expected.

Concorde District got shafted this playoffs though. Top 3 teams in 6D and look who they had to play in the first round. Meanwhile South Lakes plays Yorktown and Patriot gets Marshall. That's just wrong.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: fixer ()
Date: November 11, 2017 09:11AM

crispair Wrote:
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> That nigger running back from Hylton is really
> good. Hayfield was totally dominated after the
> first few minutes.
> Mt. Vernon's weak schedule was also exposed,
> although they have made tremendous improvement
> from where they were a few years ago.


They interviewed Slate on the news last night. He sounded intelligent. He's not a nig.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: mrs ball ()
Date: November 11, 2017 10:31AM

fixer Wrote:
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> crispair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That nigger running back from Hylton is really
> > good. Hayfield was totally dominated after the
> > first few minutes.
> > Mt. Vernon's weak schedule was also exposed,
> > although they have made tremendous improvement
> > from where they were a few years ago.
>
>
> They interviewed Slate on the news last night. He
> sounded intelligent. He's not a nig.
______________________________________________
Don't let him fool ya. Just because he doesn't say "Ima be going to penn state doesn't mean he's intelligent. I know the bar isn't set too high but come on, man.
Do you think that Ball nigger that was arrested in China can speak ok?
He still steals from the store, though.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Oakton blohs ()
Date: November 11, 2017 12:42PM

suck a fucking dick! Oakton just isnt a sports school, give them 3 more years and they are the new Mclean

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Truth buddy ()
Date: November 11, 2017 01:24PM

Oakton blohs Wrote:
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> suck a fucking dick! Oakton just isnt a sports
> school, give them 3 more years and they are the
> new Mclean
They have won the best sports school in VA award 3 times out of the last 5 year's.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Oakton blohs ()
Date: November 11, 2017 03:52PM

They have won that awards because of country club sports. They win swimming, tennis, golf, cross country, track, ect. The girls basketball team always dominates. It’s mostly female sports. If you make the playoffs in most sports and then win a few regional finals and a few states it’s easy. GBB, cross country, track, swim/dice and tennis will Win a region almost every year. And in a state title for 1 or 2 and you set. Girl sports run that school.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Concorde fan ()
Date: November 11, 2017 04:20PM

Who cares about bottom feeders - Back to why we are here.
Last night showed the new playoff system sucks. Marshall has no business making the playoffs in this bracket.
Moving forward Westfield has their toughest test a rematch with Patriot. Lots of scoring the first game this game should be a fun one. I have Patriot with the upset.
The second game is the game of the week - South Lakes vs Madison. This game should be Interesting because they are so opposite. South lakes has not really been tested all season. They lost to centreville because of speed and spying on certain players. Madison split with centreville but needed that last long pass to win. South Lakes is good enough on D to get the win and Madison won’t reapond if South Lakes hits a few quick scores. South Lakes gets the W.
Woodbridge and Hylton come out of the other region.
Let the diehard Bulldogs come out with their rebuttal.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: ntheno ()
Date: November 11, 2017 05:39PM

Lake Braddock, the hottest team in the region! Maybe the state!

Coach Doc has them rolling, they will beat Woodbridge next Friday.
The offense has too many weapons and is just too good for Woodbridge to stop. Ask TC.

For all you Bruin doubters out there, here's to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Nutswinger ()
Date: November 11, 2017 05:47PM

Dude or girl coach,
ENOUGH of Doc. All these kids were trained by last staff including 9 guys who started on D.You inherited the QB. Yes, Doc has done well but the last crew would have done better. Your wins this year were far closer versus common opponents. The most improved team in the district.Who was the coaches there last year?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: AnswerQ ()
Date: November 11, 2017 05:50PM

True. WTW was the most improved if you look at scores versus common opponents and outcomes. The worst was SoCo

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Make up your mind ()
Date: November 11, 2017 06:30PM

Doc sucks because he was losing and started 0-3. Now the team wins 8 in a row and Docs coaches suck because they are using players the previous coaching staff coached. WTF! You just have to be kidding. Please just jump into hole and suck your thumb. You just lost all credibility.


All high school coaches, the world of high school sports has gone to shit because of people like this. God Bless what you do as you can't make everyone happy! Logic is out the window

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: DUMBF##K ()
Date: November 11, 2017 07:31PM

Learn how to read! I said Doc has done okay. The message is that he had something to work with he did not develop. Somebody on this board wants to blow him weekly. He has been okay but no better (actually worse) than what they had....last 4 years were all 10 plus wins. Beat a good team the next two weeks and I will be the 1st to apologize.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Drunks posting crazy stuff ()
Date: November 12, 2017 06:54AM

Concorde fan Wrote:
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> Moving forward Westfield has their toughest test a
> rematch with Patriot. Lots of scoring the first
> game this game should be a fun one. I have Patriot
> with the upset.



Let us know when you sober up. Then we can get back to discussing possibilities in the real world.

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Most disappointing team so far?
Posted by: Ex-booster ()
Date: November 12, 2017 10:31AM

My vote is for Centreville Wildcats. For Haddock to try and draw comparisons at the start of the season from this current team to the ones that made their state title runs is almost blasphemous. Nowhere near them. Who was coaching the defense this season? Horrible! Played so many kids out of position. Why would you put an undersized Soph at d-tackle? Why didnt they pass to Tillard kid more all season is baffling, he’s 6’4” get him the damn ball! Will not be renewing my booster club passes next year.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Sen TR'Ville ()
Date: November 12, 2017 01:17PM

Haddock is so average. He is mediocre. Normal. Pedestrian.
Two years ago, Broad Ran the same play 6 times and the same kid ran for 5 long touchdowns. Last year he lost to a .500 Tuscarora team because he couldn't keep a sophomore quarterback in the pocket. This year he loses to John Champe by two touchdowns. The dude would be a bottom feeder if he played in Loudoun. He is lucky he gets to beat up on the "changing demographics" schools or his record would be shit. He will still probably put his team in Washington Post Top Twenty with three losses! Dude comes in 5th place if he played this year in Loudoun's 5A.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Finally sense ()
Date: November 12, 2017 02:01PM

Been saying the same thing about Haddock for years. Unless he has the D1 talent he can’t win. Anyone can win when you have horses. He is the same guy that was bad at Chantilly and Fairfax. If he was at any other school than C’cille he would be nothing special. He lost his best assistant coaches a few years ago due to his ego. You run off the best thing you have and settle for a deal with the devil in his youth league defensive coordinator.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Bruno Sammartino ()
Date: November 12, 2017 03:01PM

Finally sense Wrote:
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> Been saying the same thing about Haddock for
> years. Unless he has the D1 talent he can’t win.
> Anyone can win when you have horses. He is the
> same guy that was bad at Chantilly and Fairfax. If
> he was at any other school than C’cille he would
> be nothing special. He lost his best assistant
> coaches a few years ago due to his ego. You run
> off the best thing you have and settle for a deal
> with the devil in his youth league defensive
> coordinator.


You mean, "any other school than C'cille EXCEPT WESTFIELD". I think my grandmother could win state with the Mighty Bulldogs. Capiche?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Notre Dame in Distress ()
Date: November 12, 2017 04:02PM

Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Nostra Dumb Ass ()
Date: November 06, 2017 06:50PM

Freedom 31 Westfield 24


Just a feeling...




Won't be that close. IF Westfield gets out of their region, Freedom blows them up this year with athleticism and speed. 20+ victory.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 12, 2017 04:49PM

Notre Dame in Distress Wrote:
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> Re: HS Football 2017
> Posted by: Nostra Dumb Ass ()
> Date: November 06, 2017 06:50PM
>
> Freedom 31 Westfield 24
>
>
> Just a feeling...
>
>
>
>
> Won't be that close. IF Westfield gets out of
> their region, Freedom blows them up this year with
> athleticism and speed. 20+ victory.

Gee that's funny, that's the same thing Oscar Smith thought the past two seasons. Decent coaching and individual athleticism doesn't beat an extremely well coached team that plays hard, disciplined, power football.

I only hope the match-up can take place, would be a great game. The only problem for Westfield is they've got their hands full this week with a talented Patriot team.

That's probably why Westfield's done so well in the post season, they're use to playing quality opponents. No offense but Freedom has played a soft schedule, 3 teams in the regular season with .500 or better records.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Watcher of Westfield Decline ()
Date: November 12, 2017 05:17PM

Talented Patriot team is not really very good at all. Lost to Colonial Forge by 37 and faced 5 teams with 3 wins or less.

They should get by Patriot, who is just ok.

Their region is actually pretty weak, so maybe they make three final four.

I agree - no chance to stop Freedom or Colonial Forge. Steak ends this year BEFORE championship game.

Great run - tip of the cap- but the luck runs out this month.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 12, 2017 05:40PM

Watcher of Westfield Decline Wrote:
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> Talented Patriot team is not really very good at
> all. Lost to Colonial Forge by 37 and faced 5
> teams with 3 wins or less.
>
> They should get by Patriot, who is just ok.
>
> Their region is actually pretty weak, so maybe
> they make three final four.
>
> I agree - no chance to stop Freedom or Colonial
> Forge. Steak ends this year BEFORE championship
> game.
>
> Great run - tip of the cap- but the luck runs out
> this month.

Possibly, but the Oscar Smith teams the past two seasons, especially 2015, had far more talent than the current Freedom or Colonial Forge teams. That didn't prevent Westfield from winning, and yes, they were overtime victories but neither should have been.

All I'm saying is that you can't count Westfield out as long as they have that coaching staff. As a whole, they are pretty damn good when it comes to the post season. I'm sure anyone who's followed this school knows this group of players is probably the least talented but plays much better as a team than previous seasons.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 12, 2017 05:50PM

Watcher of Westfield Decline Wrote:
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> Talented Patriot team is not really very good at
> all. Lost to Colonial Forge by 37 and faced 5
> teams with 3 wins or less.
>
> They should get by Patriot, who is just ok.
>
> Their region is actually pretty weak, so maybe
> they make three final four.
>
> I agree - no chance to stop Freedom or Colonial
> Forge. Steak ends this year BEFORE championship
> game.
>
> Great run - tip of the cap- but the luck runs out
> this month.

Uh huh genius. If Westfield faces Forge it will be in the finals. Also FREEDOM has played SEVEN teams with 3 wins or less. Leave the analyis to those that know.

And Patriot played Colonial Forge with a freshman QB playing first ever high school game. Sonnenberg, Onwuka and Giwa are actually pretty talented kids. They have a legit shot at beating Westfield.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Hello? ()
Date: November 12, 2017 06:24PM

Your team sucks!
Like your team filled with Jews and Gooks are going to beat the Dixie Cup Champs from Westfield!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Racist much? ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:08PM

Hello? Wrote:
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> Your team sucks!
> Like your team filled with Jews and Gooks are
> going to beat the Dixie Cup Champs from Westfield!

You ignorant racist Trumptard, those kids aren’t Asian, they are of African decent and not that it should matter. They are good football players. Keyboard warrior hiding in mommy’s basement. Bet you wouldn’t say that crap out in public!
Come down to Freedom Friday night and say that garage in the parking lot. You won’t cuz you’re too chicken shit and I’d curb stomp your ass.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Uh...Huh... ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:20PM

Do... Not...Feed the troll!

Say after me, "I shall resist."

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Cupboard is bare...? ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:27PM

Finally sense Wrote:
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> Been saying the same thing about Haddock for
> years. Unless he has the D1 talent he can’t win.
> Anyone can win when you have horses. He is the
> same guy that was bad at Chantilly and Fairfax. If
> he was at any other school than C’cille he would
> be nothing special. He lost his best assistant
> coaches a few years ago due to his ego. You run
> off the best thing you have and settle for a deal
> with the devil in his youth league defensive
> coordinator.

Doesn’t CVHS lose their entire backfield due to graduation this year?
Wonder how they will be 2018 season? Which school’s backfield will they raid (again)?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Hello? ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:29PM

Calm down, libtard.

I wasn't even referring to Freedom, which is all black.

I was referring to Patriot.

Sheesh - another example of a lib getting blindsided by the facts and still

going off the rails.


Heck - Westfield's QB is a gook and he is pretty good.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Pardone... ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:40PM

HALF gook.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Never go full retard ()
Date: November 12, 2017 07:43PM

Hello? Wrote:
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> Calm down, libtard.
>
> I wasn't even referring to Freedom, which is all
> black.
>
> I was referring to Patriot.
>
> Sheesh - another example of a lib getting
> blindsided by the facts and still
>
> going off the rails.
>
>
> Heck - Westfield's QB is a gook and he is pretty
> good.

Man your reading comprehension is piss poor. Think the previous poster was pointing out that Patriots backs names although may read/sound Asian, they are in fact of African descent and he was challenging you to come down to Freedom so he can kick your ass. Maybe you can put down your crayons and stop sucking your moms teet and take him up on that offer.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: So you are telling me.... ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:13PM

First of all, no one who attends Freedom in Woodbridge, or their parent (singular), is on this site. Heck, they can barely read. And then you want us to believe that someone from Freedom knows the kids from Patriot and what race they are?

And my reading comprehension is piss poor? You dumb fucking lib cork soaker, just please STFU.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: putinspals ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:14PM

geez. russian trolls have taken over a football thread. wtf!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Lost alt-righter ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:24PM

Can someone direct the Alt-righter back to his hate filled neo-Nazi thread, he seems to have stumbled on a HS football thread and is too dumb to find his way out. Stupid cuck!

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Love to trigger.... ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:26PM

you weepy, feminine, snowflakes.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Go back and see... ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:29PM

who started the nasty retorts.
It was thefrequentwatcherofhighschoolfootballsoicanseetheirtightpantsand maybeevenseetheoutlineoftheircocks

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: VYTJ7 ()
Date: November 12, 2017 08:37PM

This reeks of a loser asst coach who’s sitting at home after getting bounced from the playoffs after the first round who has a serious drinking problem (cheap scotch, don’t earn much being a loser) hates the world, but his wife probably banging the neighbor and kids hate him and dog thinks he’s a loser too.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: WAPO rankings ()
Date: November 13, 2017 12:20PM

The Post rankings are such a crock of monkey pop! Why do they still have Centerville ranked in the top 20?! I can think of a dozen teams that deserve to be listed. Such an overrated program. Haddock have a family/friend at the Post? Woodbridge, Patriot, Flint Hill, Hylton, Lake Braddock, didn’t even get to the 5A schools.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: JDJADNJ ()
Date: November 13, 2017 12:49PM

How does Soco end up 5-6 with all that talent? Any ideas on their let down of a season?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: SC fan ()
Date: November 13, 2017 01:17PM

So Co is poorly coached. They are undisciplined and sends the wrong message about the school.This is not a racial jab. Just a fact...Spaulding was allowed to act like a total douche.
Time for a change, but Panning is teflon....nothing sticks.
BTW- I am of mixed raced

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: SNITCH ()
Date: November 13, 2017 02:07PM

Coach Pannoni,is a fraud. He was busted and turned in for practicing on Sunday by another FCPS teacher and coach. His AD was told. SC did not self report to VHSL. Now it is 3 violations....Sunday, snitching, and failure to report....

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: jdheywbsah ()
Date: November 13, 2017 02:41PM

SNITCH Wrote:
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> Coach Pannoni,is a fraud. He was busted and turned
> in for practicing on Sunday by another FCPS
> teacher and coach. His AD was told. SC did not
> self report to VHSL. Now it is 3
> violations....Sunday, snitching, and failure to
> report....

Don't think that was true, better find out the facts before you start talking.

On another note, how are these PWC schools getting away with complete murder in the recruiting that's going on at these schools? How are other schools supposed to compete with recruiting?

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: McGac ()
Date: November 13, 2017 04:47PM

It is true Brian! You were there! It is a matter of time before it is turned in. Then the snitch and the big boy from +× will be hanged

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: Bibb j. ()
Date: November 13, 2017 08:06PM

I saw freedom's roster....they are loaded with niggers!
must be a ghetto area down there.

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Re: HS Football 2017
Posted by: BruinNation ()
Date: November 14, 2017 01:23AM

Best coaching staff, fine tuning athletic talent,and encouraging character! Coach Doc and his staff have taken the heat like pros. Now shut up and watch what's about to happen! Hey, and back up off K. We adore her like we adore Coach Doc.

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