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The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
steve k2
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Date: September 13, 2009 03:23PM
The Redskins Superbowl journey begins in t-minus one hour. Get ready boys we're doing it big this year.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: September 13, 2009 03:42PM
I can't wait to play the Cowgirls again. No matter how bad our season is, we always lay a beatdown on them.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 13, 2009 03:43PM
GMEN 24 Foreskins 10
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
L O L
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Date: September 13, 2009 04:05PM
The Redskins entire organization is a joke.
Washington's real team is the Capitals now. Three weeks until opening night!
Washington's real team is the Capitals now. Three weeks until opening night!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 13, 2009 05:01PM
L O L Wrote:
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> The Redskins entire organization is a joke.
>
> Washington's real team is the Capitals now. Three
> weeks until opening night!
+1
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> The Redskins entire organization is a joke.
>
> Washington's real team is the Capitals now. Three
> weeks until opening night!
+1
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Hog
()
Date: September 13, 2009 05:31PM
This thread jinxed them.
It jinxed the whole season.
Bastards!
It jinxed the whole season.
Bastards!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Hog
()
Date: September 13, 2009 05:51PM
if you....
a)were born and raised in va or dc
b)have no family affiliations with other areas (ex: dad from ny)
c)root against the redskins
...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the team, hell even the players aren't the team. They could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd still be my team.
a)were born and raised in va or dc
b)have no family affiliations with other areas (ex: dad from ny)
c)root against the redskins
...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the team, hell even the players aren't the team. They could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd still be my team.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Eastsider
()
Date: September 13, 2009 06:11PM
I am listening to this debacle on the radio. The Redskins' broadcasts are nothing but three-hour commercials with some football mixed in.
On the plus side, Sam Huff seems less senile than usual.
On the plus side, Sam Huff seems less senile than usual.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 13, 2009 06:25PM
wow 3rd and 6, why not go from the shotgun there? you know they were gonna bring the house. nice to see dangelo hall earn some of that hefty contract.good d, terrible offense , familiar sounding story.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 13, 2009 06:28PM
Redskins, making coal out of diamonds since 1993.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Hog
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Date: September 13, 2009 06:38PM
i'm the second hog post, didn't mean to copy the Redskin brother above me haha
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fucktheskins
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Date: September 13, 2009 07:36PM
I refuse to support the redskins. Why? They sue fans for not being able to afford season tickets, and then they sell those tickets to scalpers. I refuse to give the Skins any of my cash, the trip up to Baltimore is one that i'm willing to make to be at a football game.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
()
Date: September 13, 2009 07:42PM
they should play collins........
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
graymoose1
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Date: September 13, 2009 07:49PM
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Hog ()
Date: September 13, 2009 05:51PM
if you....
a)were born and raised in va or dc
b)have no family affiliations with other areas (ex: dad from ny)
c)root against the redskins
...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the team, hell even the players aren't the team. They could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd still be my team.
So by that reasoning we should show loalty to Obama
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W.W.S.D. what would Scooby Doo
Posted by: Hog ()
Date: September 13, 2009 05:51PM
if you....
a)were born and raised in va or dc
b)have no family affiliations with other areas (ex: dad from ny)
c)root against the redskins
...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the team, hell even the players aren't the team. They could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd still be my team.
So by that reasoning we should show loalty to Obama
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W.W.S.D. what would Scooby Doo
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 13, 2009 07:49PM
un-fairfax aboveground Wrote:
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> they should play collins........
I've been a Campbell booster, but I think I have to agree that he isn't the solution. That sack/fumble he took when Clinton Portis was standing in the open in front of him really did it for me. Who the fuck was he looking for? He had a guy right in front of him that would have been at the yardage he needed. That, and doing the audible out of a pass into an off-tackle run when he saw a run blitz package. WTF wouldn't he dump it off to Moss or Kelly???
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> they should play collins........
I've been a Campbell booster, but I think I have to agree that he isn't the solution. That sack/fumble he took when Clinton Portis was standing in the open in front of him really did it for me. Who the fuck was he looking for? He had a guy right in front of him that would have been at the yardage he needed. That, and doing the audible out of a pass into an off-tackle run when he saw a run blitz package. WTF wouldn't he dump it off to Moss or Kelly???
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
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Date: September 13, 2009 07:53PM
un-fairfax aboveground Wrote:
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> they should play collins........
It doesn't matter who they have at quarterback, the only game they'll play well is grab-ass.
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> they should play collins........
It doesn't matter who they have at quarterback, the only game they'll play well is grab-ass.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: September 13, 2009 08:03PM
Most of the best QB's in the NFL are naturally good at it and have built in QB qualities. Zorn is convinced he can take someone with no talent at QB and train him to be good. It ain't gonna happen.
I'm also confused at why the redskins draft a great and naturally talented defensive end (Orakpo), and try to turn him into a linebacker (which he's never played before). Why not draft a linebacker to play linebacker. This is yet another waste of talent and poor player management.
Sooooo, the question begs, how long till Shanahan takes over? If the Skins lose 4 of their first 5 games, it's curtains for Zorn and Campbell.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2009 08:04PM by Numbers.
I'm also confused at why the redskins draft a great and naturally talented defensive end (Orakpo), and try to turn him into a linebacker (which he's never played before). Why not draft a linebacker to play linebacker. This is yet another waste of talent and poor player management.
Sooooo, the question begs, how long till Shanahan takes over? If the Skins lose 4 of their first 5 games, it's curtains for Zorn and Campbell.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2009 08:04PM by Numbers.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
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Date: September 13, 2009 09:10PM
The grand standing displayed by the skins after they make one of their seldom good plays is just ridiculous. Shut the fuck up, stop gesturing, win the game, and then you can celebrate.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
nova
()
Date: September 13, 2009 10:55PM
+2
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: September 14, 2009 01:23AM
Numbers Wrote:
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>
> Sooooo, the question begs, how long till Shanahan
> takes over? If the Skins lose 4 of their first 5
> games, it's curtains for Zorn and Campbell.
That's the entire problem right there. Snyder constantly forces complete coaching changes every few years, even though Gibbs had us making the Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise again at that rate.
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>
> Sooooo, the question begs, how long till Shanahan
> takes over? If the Skins lose 4 of their first 5
> games, it's curtains for Zorn and Campbell.
That's the entire problem right there. Snyder constantly forces complete coaching changes every few years, even though Gibbs had us making the Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise again at that rate.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 14, 2009 07:47AM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
> That's the entire problem right there. Snyder
> constantly forces complete coaching changes every
> few years, even though Gibbs had us making the
> Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that
> still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll
> never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise
> again at that rate.
The reason he does shit like that is because he's an impatient egomaniac. Do you honestly think that if Snyder hires somebody like Cowher, Shanahan, or even a Bill Parcells, that he's willing to go the long haul with one of those guys? Does Snyder have it in him to have a coach for more than 5 years, through good seasons, great seasons and shitty seasons? Cowher won ONE superbowl in all of his years w/ the Steelers. Shanahan won two, both at the beginning of his tenure. Even Parcells has only won two Superbowls.
My point is that it's clear that even the best coaches can only win so much and Snyder is the type that wants to win it all every year. Which is odd because his constant meddling and impatience only gets him NOTHING every year.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2009 07:48AM by Warhawk.
> That's the entire problem right there. Snyder
> constantly forces complete coaching changes every
> few years, even though Gibbs had us making the
> Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that
> still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll
> never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise
> again at that rate.
The reason he does shit like that is because he's an impatient egomaniac. Do you honestly think that if Snyder hires somebody like Cowher, Shanahan, or even a Bill Parcells, that he's willing to go the long haul with one of those guys? Does Snyder have it in him to have a coach for more than 5 years, through good seasons, great seasons and shitty seasons? Cowher won ONE superbowl in all of his years w/ the Steelers. Shanahan won two, both at the beginning of his tenure. Even Parcells has only won two Superbowls.
My point is that it's clear that even the best coaches can only win so much and Snyder is the type that wants to win it all every year. Which is odd because his constant meddling and impatience only gets him NOTHING every year.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2009 07:48AM by Warhawk.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: September 14, 2009 09:33AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Most of the best QB's in the NFL are naturally
> good at it and have built in QB qualities. Zorn is
> convinced he can take someone with no talent at QB
> and train him to be good. It ain't gonna happen.
>
Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but not great) quarterback. But when you have an offensive line that can literally give you 8 seconds to look for an open route, you're going to gain yardage.
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> Most of the best QB's in the NFL are naturally
> good at it and have built in QB qualities. Zorn is
> convinced he can take someone with no talent at QB
> and train him to be good. It ain't gonna happen.
>
Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but not great) quarterback. But when you have an offensive line that can literally give you 8 seconds to look for an open route, you're going to gain yardage.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
zorn?
()
Date: September 14, 2009 09:45AM
I think Zorn is doing the best with what he has.
There was a reason the Redskins sought Mark Sanchez so urgently. They had doubts about Campbell (a good guy that seems to be in the back-up category of talent).
Which is of course the problem with Snyder and Cerrato. If you advertise you are looking for Sanchez or another top flight quarterback, you better darn get one. Otherwise it does no favors for Campbell.
I concur Snyder is not patient; he also does not give enough deference to his players and coaches - good players, above all else, make a difference - not his arbitrary penchant to spend money and certainly not his style of management.
The lack of patience has also led to a trend of the year approach in terms of coaching. There is in my view one way to consistently win in the Redskins division - run the ball and play good defense. And this means investing in the offensive line year after year. Even a great defense can be made to look mediocre if they are on the field all too often (why the Spurrier years were a joke). I see none of this in place right now.
There was a reason the Redskins sought Mark Sanchez so urgently. They had doubts about Campbell (a good guy that seems to be in the back-up category of talent).
Which is of course the problem with Snyder and Cerrato. If you advertise you are looking for Sanchez or another top flight quarterback, you better darn get one. Otherwise it does no favors for Campbell.
I concur Snyder is not patient; he also does not give enough deference to his players and coaches - good players, above all else, make a difference - not his arbitrary penchant to spend money and certainly not his style of management.
The lack of patience has also led to a trend of the year approach in terms of coaching. There is in my view one way to consistently win in the Redskins division - run the ball and play good defense. And this means investing in the offensive line year after year. Even a great defense can be made to look mediocre if they are on the field all too often (why the Spurrier years were a joke). I see none of this in place right now.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 14, 2009 10:12AM
ITRADE Wrote:
> But when you have an
> offensive line that can literally give you 8
> seconds to look for an open route, you're going to
> gain yardage.
+1 See "Rypien, Mark, 1991-1992".
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> But when you have an
> offensive line that can literally give you 8
> seconds to look for an open route, you're going to
> gain yardage.
+1 See "Rypien, Mark, 1991-1992".
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 14, 2009 10:21AM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
>
> > That's the entire problem right there. Snyder
> > constantly forces complete coaching changes
> every
> > few years, even though Gibbs had us making the
> > Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that
> > still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll
> > never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise
> > again at that rate.
>
>
> The reason he does shit like that is because he's
> an impatient egomaniac. Do you honestly think
> that if Snyder hires somebody like Cowher,
> Shanahan, or even a Bill Parcells, that he's
> willing to go the long haul with one of those
> guys? Does Snyder have it in him to have a coach
> for more than 5 years, through good seasons, great
> seasons and shitty seasons? Cowher won ONE
> superbowl in all of his years w/ the Steelers.
> Shanahan won two, both at the beginning of his
> tenure. Even Parcells has only won two
> Superbowls.
>
> My point is that it's clear that even the best
> coaches can only win so much and Snyder is the
> type that wants to win it all every year. Which
> is odd because his constant meddling and
> impatience only gets him NOTHING every year.
I honestly doubt that Cowher, Shanahan, or Parcells would ever want to come coach for the Redskins for just that reason. It's no secret that the ownership here is a joke, so why even set yourself up for that? Unless Snyder's willing to pony up tens of millions per season so that they can simply milk the paycheck, there's no good reason to come coach here.
Of course, if anyone's willing to pony up big bucks for a big name, it's Snyder. And if there's any city willing to buy into hype, it's Washington DC. Perhaps the two really are made for each other.
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
>
> > That's the entire problem right there. Snyder
> > constantly forces complete coaching changes
> every
> > few years, even though Gibbs had us making the
> > Playoffs for most of his comeback tenure, that
> > still wasn't good enough for Snyde Boy. They'll
> > never be able to build a Super Bowl franchise
> > again at that rate.
>
>
> The reason he does shit like that is because he's
> an impatient egomaniac. Do you honestly think
> that if Snyder hires somebody like Cowher,
> Shanahan, or even a Bill Parcells, that he's
> willing to go the long haul with one of those
> guys? Does Snyder have it in him to have a coach
> for more than 5 years, through good seasons, great
> seasons and shitty seasons? Cowher won ONE
> superbowl in all of his years w/ the Steelers.
> Shanahan won two, both at the beginning of his
> tenure. Even Parcells has only won two
> Superbowls.
>
> My point is that it's clear that even the best
> coaches can only win so much and Snyder is the
> type that wants to win it all every year. Which
> is odd because his constant meddling and
> impatience only gets him NOTHING every year.
I honestly doubt that Cowher, Shanahan, or Parcells would ever want to come coach for the Redskins for just that reason. It's no secret that the ownership here is a joke, so why even set yourself up for that? Unless Snyder's willing to pony up tens of millions per season so that they can simply milk the paycheck, there's no good reason to come coach here.
Of course, if anyone's willing to pony up big bucks for a big name, it's Snyder. And if there's any city willing to buy into hype, it's Washington DC. Perhaps the two really are made for each other.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 14, 2009 10:52AM
ITRADE Wrote:
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> Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but
> not great) quarterback. But when you have an
> offensive line that can literally give you 8
> seconds to look for an open route, you're going to
> gain yardage.
What!?
Theisman won the Heisman trophy in college! He was a great QB! The reason it took him a while to start was because the skins had Kilmer and Jurgenson already in place. And even if he did have to learn a bit more, he had Jurgenson to teach him.
Campbell will NEVER be anything more than a backup/jouneyman. He doesn't possess the natural skill sets or the mental capacity to be anything else.
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> Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but
> not great) quarterback. But when you have an
> offensive line that can literally give you 8
> seconds to look for an open route, you're going to
> gain yardage.
What!?
Theisman won the Heisman trophy in college! He was a great QB! The reason it took him a while to start was because the skins had Kilmer and Jurgenson already in place. And even if he did have to learn a bit more, he had Jurgenson to teach him.
Campbell will NEVER be anything more than a backup/jouneyman. He doesn't possess the natural skill sets or the mental capacity to be anything else.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 14, 2009 10:59AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but
> > not great) quarterback. But when you have an
> > offensive line that can literally give you 8
> > seconds to look for an open route, you're going
> to
> > gain yardage.
>
>
> What!?
> Theisman won the Heisman trophy in college! He was
> a great QB! The reason it took him a while to
> start was because the skins had Kilmer and
> Jurgenson already in place. And even if he did
> have to learn a bit more, he had Jurgenson to
> teach him.
>
> Campbell will NEVER be anything more than a
> backup/jouneyman. He doesn't possess the natural
> skill sets or the mental capacity to be anything
> else.
Theismann did not win the Heisman Trophy. Jim Plunkett did.
That said, if Theismann hadn't squandered part of his career in Canada, which caused him to be a 3rd-stringer when he entered the NFL, he probably would have had a Hall of Fame career.
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Id argue that Theisman was a pretty decent (but
> > not great) quarterback. But when you have an
> > offensive line that can literally give you 8
> > seconds to look for an open route, you're going
> to
> > gain yardage.
>
>
> What!?
> Theisman won the Heisman trophy in college! He was
> a great QB! The reason it took him a while to
> start was because the skins had Kilmer and
> Jurgenson already in place. And even if he did
> have to learn a bit more, he had Jurgenson to
> teach him.
>
> Campbell will NEVER be anything more than a
> backup/jouneyman. He doesn't possess the natural
> skill sets or the mental capacity to be anything
> else.
Theismann did not win the Heisman Trophy. Jim Plunkett did.
That said, if Theismann hadn't squandered part of his career in Canada, which caused him to be a 3rd-stringer when he entered the NFL, he probably would have had a Hall of Fame career.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 14, 2009 11:04AM
zorn? Wrote:
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> I think Zorn is doing the best with what he has.
>
>
All of the front office and ownership issues aside, Jim Zorn is too nice a guy to be a success as an NFL head coach.
There are certain occupations where you need to be an asshole to be successful. Drill sergeant for one. Divorce attorney for another. And NFL head coach.
Norv Turner and Wade Philips suck as NFL head coaches because they are not pricks. Bill Parcels and Bill Belichick are Hall of Fame coaches because they are Grade-A assholes.
Zorn probably was in his zone as a QB position coach. I'm not even sure he would be that good as an offensive coordinator, to tell you the truth.
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> I think Zorn is doing the best with what he has.
>
>
All of the front office and ownership issues aside, Jim Zorn is too nice a guy to be a success as an NFL head coach.
There are certain occupations where you need to be an asshole to be successful. Drill sergeant for one. Divorce attorney for another. And NFL head coach.
Norv Turner and Wade Philips suck as NFL head coaches because they are not pricks. Bill Parcels and Bill Belichick are Hall of Fame coaches because they are Grade-A assholes.
Zorn probably was in his zone as a QB position coach. I'm not even sure he would be that good as an offensive coordinator, to tell you the truth.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
mgnut
()
Date: September 14, 2009 03:26PM
Win or Lose, the players get the same amount of money (usually) unless there are big bonus conditions in their contract.
Anyway, Get rid of anyone who doesn't hustle. The Giants were running 100% all the time while the deadskins wern't.
It's a joke.
Go Caps!
Anyway, Get rid of anyone who doesn't hustle. The Giants were running 100% all the time while the deadskins wern't.
It's a joke.
Go Caps!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 14, 2009 04:52PM
ramsey, ramsey, ramsey
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 14, 2009 04:52PM
next quarter
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 14, 2009 04:52PM
brunell, brunell, brunell
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 14, 2009 04:52PM
next series after brunell sucks it
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 14, 2009 04:52PM
ramsey,ramsey, ramsey
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
-..SBS.-
()
Date: September 14, 2009 08:20PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> All of the front office and ownership issues
> aside, Jim Zorn is too nice a guy to be a success
> as an NFL head coach.
>
> There are certain occupations where you need to be
> an asshole to be successful. Drill sergeant for
> one. Divorce attorney for another. And NFL head
> coach.
>
> Norv Turner and Wade Philips suck as NFL head
> coaches because they are not pricks. Bill Parcels
> and Bill Belichick are Hall of Fame coaches
> because they are Grade-A assholes.
>
> Zorn probably was in his zone as a QB position
> coach. I'm not even sure he would be that good as
> an offensive coordinator, to tell you the truth.
I don't think you have to be an asshole. It's more accurate to say you have to have a very strong personality, but not necessarily be an asshole. There's been some fantastic coaches that weren't assholes.
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>
> All of the front office and ownership issues
> aside, Jim Zorn is too nice a guy to be a success
> as an NFL head coach.
>
> There are certain occupations where you need to be
> an asshole to be successful. Drill sergeant for
> one. Divorce attorney for another. And NFL head
> coach.
>
> Norv Turner and Wade Philips suck as NFL head
> coaches because they are not pricks. Bill Parcels
> and Bill Belichick are Hall of Fame coaches
> because they are Grade-A assholes.
>
> Zorn probably was in his zone as a QB position
> coach. I'm not even sure he would be that good as
> an offensive coordinator, to tell you the truth.
I don't think you have to be an asshole. It's more accurate to say you have to have a very strong personality, but not necessarily be an asshole. There's been some fantastic coaches that weren't assholes.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 11:07AM
Yesterday I was pretty infuriated. They looked horrible on Sunday. No fire. Stupid mistakes. Penalties. Poor tackling. However, for as poorly as they played, they were still in it and could have won the game.
The line pass protected better than I thought they would and they stopped the run for the most part. Everyone predicted the Skins would lose and they were right, but they aren't that bad, just getting off to a slow start like last year. We'll get on a roll and surprise some people. I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx, payback is a bitch.
The line pass protected better than I thought they would and they stopped the run for the most part. Everyone predicted the Skins would lose and they were right, but they aren't that bad, just getting off to a slow start like last year. We'll get on a roll and surprise some people. I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx, payback is a bitch.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 15, 2009 11:52AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Yesterday I was pretty infuriated. They looked
> horrible on Sunday. No fire. Stupid mistakes.
> Penalties. Poor tackling. However, for as poorly
> as they played, they were still in it and could
> have won the game.
>
> The line pass protected better than I thought they
> would and they stopped the run for the most part.
> Everyone predicted the Skins would lose and they
> were right, but they aren't that bad, just getting
> off to a slow start like last year. We'll get on a
> roll and surprise some people. I can't wait until
> the Giants come to FedEx, payback is a bitch.
You know, after watching the Bills game last night, I came to realize that we don't have it all that bad. After all, the Redskins generally show by halftime that there's no chance of victory. The Bills, on the other hand, appear to be the kings of building up the hopes of the fans, only to crush them under a massive choke storm in the last few minutes of the game.
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> Yesterday I was pretty infuriated. They looked
> horrible on Sunday. No fire. Stupid mistakes.
> Penalties. Poor tackling. However, for as poorly
> as they played, they were still in it and could
> have won the game.
>
> The line pass protected better than I thought they
> would and they stopped the run for the most part.
> Everyone predicted the Skins would lose and they
> were right, but they aren't that bad, just getting
> off to a slow start like last year. We'll get on a
> roll and surprise some people. I can't wait until
> the Giants come to FedEx, payback is a bitch.
You know, after watching the Bills game last night, I came to realize that we don't have it all that bad. After all, the Redskins generally show by halftime that there's no chance of victory. The Bills, on the other hand, appear to be the kings of building up the hopes of the fans, only to crush them under a massive choke storm in the last few minutes of the game.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: September 15, 2009 12:35PM
Yeah, how the Bills lost that game is beyond me. Massively bad coaching decisions.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: September 15, 2009 12:40PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Yeah, how the Bills lost that game is beyond me.
> Massively bad coaching decisions.
It all came down to the stupid decision by the kick returner to take it out of the end zone. If the idiot had taken a knee, the Bills would have been able to run the clock out and/or put the ball far enough down the field to make it more difficult for Brady to score a TD.
That said, Dick Jauron is a sucky head coach. In a 10-year head coaching career he had one...ONE...winning season.
Anyone who hires Dick Jauron thinking he's taking their team to the Super Bowl is an idiot.
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> Yeah, how the Bills lost that game is beyond me.
> Massively bad coaching decisions.
It all came down to the stupid decision by the kick returner to take it out of the end zone. If the idiot had taken a knee, the Bills would have been able to run the clock out and/or put the ball far enough down the field to make it more difficult for Brady to score a TD.
That said, Dick Jauron is a sucky head coach. In a 10-year head coaching career he had one...ONE...winning season.
Anyone who hires Dick Jauron thinking he's taking their team to the Super Bowl is an idiot.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 15, 2009 03:18PM
"I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx, payback is a bitch. "
Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 03:50PM
496 Wrote:
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> "I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx,
> payback is a bitch. "
>
> Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy
> Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
What does your hatred of Jews have to do with anything?
The Redskins played poorly and still almost won the game. The Midgets will not be "crushing" anyone in the NFC East this year. Especially with their no name receivers and a half retarded QB. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
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> "I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx,
> payback is a bitch. "
>
> Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy
> Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
What does your hatred of Jews have to do with anything?
The Redskins played poorly and still almost won the game. The Midgets will not be "crushing" anyone in the NFC East this year. Especially with their no name receivers and a half retarded QB. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: September 15, 2009 04:41PM
The Skins were 2-6 the last eight games of last year. What has really changed on that team since the end of last season that would prevent them from going 2-6 in the next eight games?
I tell you, this team isn't going 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9. This is a 6-10, 5-11 or 4-12 season.
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I tell you, this team isn't going 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9. This is a 6-10, 5-11 or 4-12 season.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 04:55PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The Skins were 2-6 the last eight games of last
> year. What has really changed on that team since
> the end of last season that would prevent them
> from going 2-6 in the next eight games?
>
> I tell you, this team isn't going 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9.
> This is a 6-10, 5-11 or 4-12 season.
Do you even follow the Redskins? What has changed? Seriously? If you need to ask this question I can see why you would think they will have a losing year, because you don't really follow the team or know what you're talking about.
For starters...
- Second year in the system (JC had previously had a new OC every year)
- A little thing called the draft and the 53 man roster
- A guy named Albert Haynesworth
- The schedule and the other teams in the division
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> The Skins were 2-6 the last eight games of last
> year. What has really changed on that team since
> the end of last season that would prevent them
> from going 2-6 in the next eight games?
>
> I tell you, this team isn't going 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9.
> This is a 6-10, 5-11 or 4-12 season.
Do you even follow the Redskins? What has changed? Seriously? If you need to ask this question I can see why you would think they will have a losing year, because you don't really follow the team or know what you're talking about.
For starters...
- Second year in the system (JC had previously had a new OC every year)
- A little thing called the draft and the 53 man roster
- A guy named Albert Haynesworth
- The schedule and the other teams in the division
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 15, 2009 05:02PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> Do you even follow the Redskins? What has changed?
> Seriously? If you need to ask this question I can
> see why you would think they will have a losing
> year, because you don't really follow the team or
> know what you're talking about.
>
> - Second year in the system (JC had previously had
> a new OC every year)
An offense competitors have been able to dissect in the film room and which JC still doesn't seem to know how to run very well.
> - A little thing called the draft and the 53 man
> roster
Who did they pick up in the draft who is so damn good? So far, I have seen Orakpo running around back there. But I haven't seen him doing much. What about the corners? Better yet, what about the receivers? And the O-Line? And the running backs? You know, the things that score fucking points? Have THEY gotten any better? Has Suisham gotten better than the worst scoring percentage in the league?? Hell no.
> - A guy named Albert Haynesworth
He's just like a guy name Brandon Lloyd or a guy named Bruce Smith or a guy named Adam Archuletta. He's got his check and he's going to sit his fat ass on the bench as much as possible.
> - The schedule and the other teams in the division
The problem with the Skins schedule is that the crappy teams they are facing have almost all undergone major coaching and management changes. Remember what the Dolphins and Falcons did last year? Did you see how KC played the Ravens last week? With the exception of the Lions, I wouldn't trust any of the teams on their schedule to roll-over. And the other teams in the division are all better than the Skins. This isn't the NFC West.
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>
> Do you even follow the Redskins? What has changed?
> Seriously? If you need to ask this question I can
> see why you would think they will have a losing
> year, because you don't really follow the team or
> know what you're talking about.
>
> - Second year in the system (JC had previously had
> a new OC every year)
An offense competitors have been able to dissect in the film room and which JC still doesn't seem to know how to run very well.
> - A little thing called the draft and the 53 man
> roster
Who did they pick up in the draft who is so damn good? So far, I have seen Orakpo running around back there. But I haven't seen him doing much. What about the corners? Better yet, what about the receivers? And the O-Line? And the running backs? You know, the things that score fucking points? Have THEY gotten any better? Has Suisham gotten better than the worst scoring percentage in the league?? Hell no.
> - A guy named Albert Haynesworth
He's just like a guy name Brandon Lloyd or a guy named Bruce Smith or a guy named Adam Archuletta. He's got his check and he's going to sit his fat ass on the bench as much as possible.
> - The schedule and the other teams in the division
The problem with the Skins schedule is that the crappy teams they are facing have almost all undergone major coaching and management changes. Remember what the Dolphins and Falcons did last year? Did you see how KC played the Ravens last week? With the exception of the Lions, I wouldn't trust any of the teams on their schedule to roll-over. And the other teams in the division are all better than the Skins. This isn't the NFC West.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
()
Date: September 15, 2009 05:03PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> - Second year in the system (JC had previously had
> a new OC every year)
> - A little thing called the draft and the 53 man
> roster
> - A guy named Albert Haynesworth
> - The schedule and the other teams in the division
JC is still not and never will be a franchise qb.
the redskins draft bust wide receivers like theyre doing it on purpose.
Albert Haynesworth is $40 million guaranteed on a bum knee. i give him 8 games this season till he misses 4 or 5
the schedule and division are harder. it will be impossible for them to get anything other than 4th in the division
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> - Second year in the system (JC had previously had
> a new OC every year)
> - A little thing called the draft and the 53 man
> roster
> - A guy named Albert Haynesworth
> - The schedule and the other teams in the division
JC is still not and never will be a franchise qb.
the redskins draft bust wide receivers like theyre doing it on purpose.
Albert Haynesworth is $40 million guaranteed on a bum knee. i give him 8 games this season till he misses 4 or 5
the schedule and division are harder. it will be impossible for them to get anything other than 4th in the division
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 05:45PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> An offense competitors have been able to dissect
> in the film room and which JC still doesn't seem
> to know how to run very well.
You mean like the Patriots and the Steelers in preseason when the Skins were running very basic plays.
> Who did they pick up in the draft who is so damn
> good? So far, I have seen Orakpo running around
> back there. But I haven't seen him doing much.
> What about the corners? Better yet, what about the
> receivers? And the O-Line? And the running backs?
> You know, the things that score fucking points?
> Have THEY gotten any better? Has Suisham gotten
> better than the worst scoring percentage in the
> league?? Hell no.
Portis is starting to lose a step, but he is still a top 10 back. Santana moss offers good speed on the outside and Cooley is a great threat at tight end. The offensive line looks good so far, we'll just have to see how long they last. They got younger with Dockery and replacing Jansen with Heyer. Another factor has been the lack of a serious threat at the #2 receiver spot, but with an elite receiving tight end it seems like that problem is addressed already. Not many teams have a tight end you have to game plan for. Marco Mitchell looked solid as did Kelly all training camp and preseason. Suisham has a new holder, last year he had three different ones. Orakpo is a beast and could be DROY. .
>
> He's just like a guy name Brandon Lloyd or a guy
> named Bruce Smith or a guy named Adam Archuletta.
> He's got his check and he's going to sit his fat
> ass on the bench as much as possible.
Yeah. Just like em huh? We'll see. Or could he be a guy like Marcus Washington, who played well for years or London Fletcher? You're just a hater. You aren't a skins fan are you? Let me guess, you're a Cowboys fan, or a Steelers fan? No wonder. I don't have much time for that, to explain the team I root for to someone who hates the team anyway. What's the point?
> The problem with the Skins schedule is that the
> crappy teams they are facing have almost all
> undergone major coaching and management changes.
> Remember what the Dolphins and Falcons did last
> year? Did you see how KC played the Ravens last
> week? With the exception of the Lions, I wouldn't
> trust any of the teams on their schedule to
> roll-over. And the other teams in the division are
> all better than the Skins. This isn't the NFC
> West.
So the Giants lose their number one and three receivers, number two RB and their DC and they are better? The Eagles lose their DC and defensive leader in Dawkins on D and they're better? I guess the Cowgirls had addition by subtraction as well? The start of the Skins schedule is against weak teams, period. Yeah, a few of them could be surprises, it happens every year but the schedule is easier than last year, period.
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> An offense competitors have been able to dissect
> in the film room and which JC still doesn't seem
> to know how to run very well.
You mean like the Patriots and the Steelers in preseason when the Skins were running very basic plays.
> Who did they pick up in the draft who is so damn
> good? So far, I have seen Orakpo running around
> back there. But I haven't seen him doing much.
> What about the corners? Better yet, what about the
> receivers? And the O-Line? And the running backs?
> You know, the things that score fucking points?
> Have THEY gotten any better? Has Suisham gotten
> better than the worst scoring percentage in the
> league?? Hell no.
Portis is starting to lose a step, but he is still a top 10 back. Santana moss offers good speed on the outside and Cooley is a great threat at tight end. The offensive line looks good so far, we'll just have to see how long they last. They got younger with Dockery and replacing Jansen with Heyer. Another factor has been the lack of a serious threat at the #2 receiver spot, but with an elite receiving tight end it seems like that problem is addressed already. Not many teams have a tight end you have to game plan for. Marco Mitchell looked solid as did Kelly all training camp and preseason. Suisham has a new holder, last year he had three different ones. Orakpo is a beast and could be DROY. .
>
> He's just like a guy name Brandon Lloyd or a guy
> named Bruce Smith or a guy named Adam Archuletta.
> He's got his check and he's going to sit his fat
> ass on the bench as much as possible.
Yeah. Just like em huh? We'll see. Or could he be a guy like Marcus Washington, who played well for years or London Fletcher? You're just a hater. You aren't a skins fan are you? Let me guess, you're a Cowboys fan, or a Steelers fan? No wonder. I don't have much time for that, to explain the team I root for to someone who hates the team anyway. What's the point?
> The problem with the Skins schedule is that the
> crappy teams they are facing have almost all
> undergone major coaching and management changes.
> Remember what the Dolphins and Falcons did last
> year? Did you see how KC played the Ravens last
> week? With the exception of the Lions, I wouldn't
> trust any of the teams on their schedule to
> roll-over. And the other teams in the division are
> all better than the Skins. This isn't the NFC
> West.
So the Giants lose their number one and three receivers, number two RB and their DC and they are better? The Eagles lose their DC and defensive leader in Dawkins on D and they're better? I guess the Cowgirls had addition by subtraction as well? The start of the Skins schedule is against weak teams, period. Yeah, a few of them could be surprises, it happens every year but the schedule is easier than last year, period.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 05:50PM
un-fairfax aboveground Wrote:
>
> JC is still not and never will be a franchise qb.
Never said he was. It has been proven time and time again that you do not need one to win in the NFL.
>
> the redskins draft bust wide receivers like theyre
> doing it on purpose.
Yet to be seen. The only one I can think of right now is Taylor Jacobs and that was years ago. Care to elaborate?
>
> Albert Haynesworth is $40 million guaranteed on a
> bum knee. i give him 8 games this season till he
> misses 4 or 5
Great facts you've got there.
> the schedule and division are harder. it will be
> impossible for them to get anything other than 4th
> in the division
Wrong. Schedule is easier. We'll see about the division, see above for my current thoughts on that.
I'm not saying the Skins are going to the Superbowl, it's the toughest division in the NFL. That said, I think they have a chance to be good this year and surprise people. Disagree, fine, just don't come out of the woodwork and pretend like you were rooting for them the whole time if they do well.
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>
> JC is still not and never will be a franchise qb.
Never said he was. It has been proven time and time again that you do not need one to win in the NFL.
>
> the redskins draft bust wide receivers like theyre
> doing it on purpose.
Yet to be seen. The only one I can think of right now is Taylor Jacobs and that was years ago. Care to elaborate?
>
> Albert Haynesworth is $40 million guaranteed on a
> bum knee. i give him 8 games this season till he
> misses 4 or 5
Great facts you've got there.
> the schedule and division are harder. it will be
> impossible for them to get anything other than 4th
> in the division
Wrong. Schedule is easier. We'll see about the division, see above for my current thoughts on that.
I'm not saying the Skins are going to the Superbowl, it's the toughest division in the NFL. That said, I think they have a chance to be good this year and surprise people. Disagree, fine, just don't come out of the woodwork and pretend like you were rooting for them the whole time if they do well.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 15, 2009 09:10PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx,
> > payback is a bitch. "
> >
> > Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy
> > Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
>
> What does your hatred of Jews have to do with
> anything?
>
> The Redskins played poorly and still almost won
> the game. The Midgets will not be "crushing"
> anyone in the NFC East this year. Especially with
> their no name receivers and a half retarded QB.
> Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
Hey douchebag. The skins are 0-1, courtesy of the "midgets". The same midgets who let off the gas considerably in the 2nd half. Christ you idiot skins fans are fucking delusional. I hope Danny keeps raping you.
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "I can't wait until the Giants come to FedEx,
> > payback is a bitch. "
> >
> > Yup, should be a huge gate for Danny Jewboy
> > Synder. BTW, Giants will crush them......AGAIN.
>
> What does your hatred of Jews have to do with
> anything?
>
> The Redskins played poorly and still almost won
> the game. The Midgets will not be "crushing"
> anyone in the NFC East this year. Especially with
> their no name receivers and a half retarded QB.
> Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
Hey douchebag. The skins are 0-1, courtesy of the "midgets". The same midgets who let off the gas considerably in the 2nd half. Christ you idiot skins fans are fucking delusional. I hope Danny keeps raping you.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 15, 2009 10:25PM
496 Wrote:
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> Hey douchebag. The skins are 0-1, courtesy of the
> "midgets". The same midgets who let off the gas
> considerably in the 2nd half. Christ you idiot
> skins fans are fucking delusional. I hope Danny
> keeps raping you.
Wow musta touched a nerve. Name calling, a true sign of intelligence and maturity. If by let off the gas you mean threw an interception and allowed a long scoring drive and almost lost the game then yeah. Or were you referring to the fact that Jacobs was held to under 50 yards and was basically a non factor? Maybe you meant that the NY only got 1 touchdown and were held to a field goal 3 times. Is that what you meant by letting off the gas? So are you a midgets fan or just a jerk? My guess is both.
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> Hey douchebag. The skins are 0-1, courtesy of the
> "midgets". The same midgets who let off the gas
> considerably in the 2nd half. Christ you idiot
> skins fans are fucking delusional. I hope Danny
> keeps raping you.
Wow musta touched a nerve. Name calling, a true sign of intelligence and maturity. If by let off the gas you mean threw an interception and allowed a long scoring drive and almost lost the game then yeah. Or were you referring to the fact that Jacobs was held to under 50 yards and was basically a non factor? Maybe you meant that the NY only got 1 touchdown and were held to a field goal 3 times. Is that what you meant by letting off the gas? So are you a midgets fan or just a jerk? My guess is both.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
PU
()
Date: September 16, 2009 08:21AM
Do us all a favor and just take a knee Jason. Can you please just kneel out the 2009 season.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 10:08AM
PU Wrote:
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> Do us all a favor and just take a knee Jason. Can
> you please just kneel out the 2009 season.
I think Zorn would do better with another QB but I'm not sure he's on our roster. I think Zorn wants to suit up himself and get out there! ;)
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> Do us all a favor and just take a knee Jason. Can
> you please just kneel out the 2009 season.
I think Zorn would do better with another QB but I'm not sure he's on our roster. I think Zorn wants to suit up himself and get out there! ;)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 10:44AM
Hog Wrote:
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> if you....
> a)were born and raised in va or dc
> b)have no family affiliations with other areas
> (ex: dad from ny)
> c)root against the redskins
> ...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder
> sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the
> team, hell even the players aren't the team. They
> could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd
> still be my team.
Agree 100% and would like to add...
If you qualify for a and b and root for the Cowturds or another NFC East team, you are the worst kind of football fan.. a bandwagon jumping wannabe.
I see these people every year at FedEx. When you ask them what part of Texas they are from they look at you like you're from another planet. When you ask them why they root for the Cowgirls if they have never been to Texas and/or do not know anyone in Texas, they say "just cause". Despicable.
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> if you....
> a)were born and raised in va or dc
> b)have no family affiliations with other areas
> (ex: dad from ny)
> c)root against the redskins
> ...then SCREW YOU. SHOW SOME LOYALTY. Yeah Snyder
> sucks but is he the team? NO. The coach isn't the
> team, hell even the players aren't the team. They
> could put paris fuggin' hilton at qb and they'd
> still be my team.
Agree 100% and would like to add...
If you qualify for a and b and root for the Cowturds or another NFC East team, you are the worst kind of football fan.. a bandwagon jumping wannabe.
I see these people every year at FedEx. When you ask them what part of Texas they are from they look at you like you're from another planet. When you ask them why they root for the Cowgirls if they have never been to Texas and/or do not know anyone in Texas, they say "just cause". Despicable.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
dono
()
Date: September 16, 2009 11:12AM
I watched Sunday for most of the first half in earnest. I have to say you could have taken that footage and spliced it into any game over the last decade. Losers.
It wasnt any single mistake or poor play it was an overall issue of will to win. With a few exceptions, the Skins have not had the ability to blow out another team in a game for decades. The majority of their wins over the last decade have been close to very close scores.
Until they get that ability they will be a frustrating team to support. What is the fun in every win being logged in the 'they dogged a bullet' category.
It wasnt any single mistake or poor play it was an overall issue of will to win. With a few exceptions, the Skins have not had the ability to blow out another team in a game for decades. The majority of their wins over the last decade have been close to very close scores.
Until they get that ability they will be a frustrating team to support. What is the fun in every win being logged in the 'they dogged a bullet' category.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 11:36AM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> So the Giants lose their number one and three
> receivers, number two RB and their DC and they are
> better? The Eagles lose their DC and defensive
> leader in Dawkins on D and they're better? I guess
> the Cowgirls had addition by subtraction as well?
> The start of the Skins schedule is against weak
> teams, period. Yeah, a few of them could be
> surprises, it happens every year but the schedule
> is easier than last year, period.
They are better because they were better teams to begin with. Unlike the Skins, the Giants and Eagles use the draft and free agency to build depth to their teams. Danny Boy squanders most of his draft picks to acquire two or three stars. The problem is, what happens when those stars go down? They have some Arena Football guy that was picked up on waivers backing Fat Albert.
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>
> So the Giants lose their number one and three
> receivers, number two RB and their DC and they are
> better? The Eagles lose their DC and defensive
> leader in Dawkins on D and they're better? I guess
> the Cowgirls had addition by subtraction as well?
> The start of the Skins schedule is against weak
> teams, period. Yeah, a few of them could be
> surprises, it happens every year but the schedule
> is easier than last year, period.
They are better because they were better teams to begin with. Unlike the Skins, the Giants and Eagles use the draft and free agency to build depth to their teams. Danny Boy squanders most of his draft picks to acquire two or three stars. The problem is, what happens when those stars go down? They have some Arena Football guy that was picked up on waivers backing Fat Albert.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
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Date: September 16, 2009 11:39AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> PU Wrote:
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> > Do us all a favor and just take a knee Jason.
> Can
> > you please just kneel out the 2009 season.
>
> I think Zorn would do better with another QB but
> I'm not sure he's on our roster. I think Zorn
> wants to suit up himself and get out there! ;)
Jim Zorn's QB stats...
TD-INT 111-141
Yards 21,115
QB Rating 77.3
Jason Campbell's...
TD-INT 35-23
Passing yards 7,242
QB Rating 80.4
Even with Zorn having Steve Largent as his top receiver, Campbell has better numbers than Zorn did. Maybe we should have a former QB who knew how to throw more TDs than picks coaching this team.
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> PU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do us all a favor and just take a knee Jason.
> Can
> > you please just kneel out the 2009 season.
>
> I think Zorn would do better with another QB but
> I'm not sure he's on our roster. I think Zorn
> wants to suit up himself and get out there! ;)
Jim Zorn's QB stats...
TD-INT 111-141
Yards 21,115
QB Rating 77.3
Jason Campbell's...
TD-INT 35-23
Passing yards 7,242
QB Rating 80.4
Even with Zorn having Steve Largent as his top receiver, Campbell has better numbers than Zorn did. Maybe we should have a former QB who knew how to throw more TDs than picks coaching this team.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
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Date: September 16, 2009 11:49AM
I agree. Zorn never lit up the field with dynamic QB skills.
Really, his claim to fame is being a QB coach for Hasselback.
Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never be more than mediocre IMHO.
He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural ability to ever reach elite status or even "manage the game" status.
Really, his claim to fame is being a QB coach for Hasselback.
Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never be more than mediocre IMHO.
He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural ability to ever reach elite status or even "manage the game" status.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: September 16, 2009 12:36PM
I heard someone, I think Steve Czaban, talking about how the overwhelming majority of QBs who have won Super Bowls are either in or destined for the Hall of Fame (they noted people like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are exceptions).
It is apparent that Jason Campbell is not going to be a Hall of Famer. At the same time, to be fair, those QBs also played with Hall of Fame linemen, tight ends, running backs and receivers.
This poses the question....Does anyone think that anyone on the Skins offense now is destined for the Hall of Fame?
If he has a long enough career, Cooley could certainly be a possibility. And I guess you could make a case for Portis, though personally at this time I don't think he rates it. But does anyone see Santana Moss or Randel El in the Hall of Fame? I don't.
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It is apparent that Jason Campbell is not going to be a Hall of Famer. At the same time, to be fair, those QBs also played with Hall of Fame linemen, tight ends, running backs and receivers.
This poses the question....Does anyone think that anyone on the Skins offense now is destined for the Hall of Fame?
If he has a long enough career, Cooley could certainly be a possibility. And I guess you could make a case for Portis, though personally at this time I don't think he rates it. But does anyone see Santana Moss or Randel El in the Hall of Fame? I don't.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
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Date: September 16, 2009 12:41PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> They are better because they were better teams to
> begin with.
We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a playoff game more recently than the Cowgirls and split with them last season. The Giants on the other hand seem to have the Skins number as the last time we beat them was in 2007 (when they won the SB) with Collins at the helm. That every other team in the NFC east is better than the Skins is debatable. If you want to believe the sky is falling go ahead, it's too early in the season for me to do that so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Right now I'm of the opinion that the Redskins are a better team this year than they were last year. Call me crazy.
> Unlike the Skins, the Giants and
> Eagles use the draft and free agency to build
> depth to their teams. Danny Boy squanders most of
> his draft picks to acquire two or three stars. The
> problem is, what happens when those stars go down?
> They have some Arena Football guy that was picked
> up on waivers backing Fat Albert.
This is the mantra that gets repeated over and over by casual fans. It may have been true in the past but if you look at the last few years the front office has done a pretty good job in this department as of late. The big spending in free agency has been curtailed and the drafting has been much better. Batiste this year at OL depth for example, big name huh? Justin Tryon, Kevin Barnes and Kareem Moore were drafted for depth at an already strong defensive backfield. Henson at LB, Marco Mitchell at WR, Mason at RB, Edwin Williams at Center. I could go on but I don't think it would matter to you until the Skins start winning and that's okay. Again, are you a Redskins fan? Do you just listen to Lavar and Chad Dukes and regurgitate what little they know over and over? (i.e. Redskins suck, owner sucks, coach sucks, QB sucks, etc)
By the way, Haynesworth's backup is Anthony Montgomery, drafted in the 5th round. You might be thinking of Chris Wilson, who plays LB/DE. Either way, I think they are both solid as is the Redskins Defense as a whole. They were 4th in the league last year remember (which was better than both the Giants and the Cowboys)? If the offense could score some points and get them off the field the defense could be even better this year. Yeah, that's a big "if" given the performance on Sunday but I'm a glass is half full kind of person. Doom and gloom after one game seems premature.
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> They are better because they were better teams to
> begin with.
We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a playoff game more recently than the Cowgirls and split with them last season. The Giants on the other hand seem to have the Skins number as the last time we beat them was in 2007 (when they won the SB) with Collins at the helm. That every other team in the NFC east is better than the Skins is debatable. If you want to believe the sky is falling go ahead, it's too early in the season for me to do that so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Right now I'm of the opinion that the Redskins are a better team this year than they were last year. Call me crazy.
> Unlike the Skins, the Giants and
> Eagles use the draft and free agency to build
> depth to their teams. Danny Boy squanders most of
> his draft picks to acquire two or three stars. The
> problem is, what happens when those stars go down?
> They have some Arena Football guy that was picked
> up on waivers backing Fat Albert.
This is the mantra that gets repeated over and over by casual fans. It may have been true in the past but if you look at the last few years the front office has done a pretty good job in this department as of late. The big spending in free agency has been curtailed and the drafting has been much better. Batiste this year at OL depth for example, big name huh? Justin Tryon, Kevin Barnes and Kareem Moore were drafted for depth at an already strong defensive backfield. Henson at LB, Marco Mitchell at WR, Mason at RB, Edwin Williams at Center. I could go on but I don't think it would matter to you until the Skins start winning and that's okay. Again, are you a Redskins fan? Do you just listen to Lavar and Chad Dukes and regurgitate what little they know over and over? (i.e. Redskins suck, owner sucks, coach sucks, QB sucks, etc)
By the way, Haynesworth's backup is Anthony Montgomery, drafted in the 5th round. You might be thinking of Chris Wilson, who plays LB/DE. Either way, I think they are both solid as is the Redskins Defense as a whole. They were 4th in the league last year remember (which was better than both the Giants and the Cowboys)? If the offense could score some points and get them off the field the defense could be even better this year. Yeah, that's a big "if" given the performance on Sunday but I'm a glass is half full kind of person. Doom and gloom after one game seems premature.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:45PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Jim Zorn's QB stats...
>
> TD-INT 111-141
> Yards 21,115
> QB Rating 77.3
>
>
> Jason Campbell's...
>
> TD-INT 35-23
> Passing yards 7,242
> QB Rating 80.4
>
>
> Even with Zorn having Steve Largent as his top
> receiver, Campbell has better numbers than Zorn
> did. Maybe we should have a former QB who knew how
> to throw more TDs than picks coaching this team.
I was joking. I think Zorn's problem right now is his play calling. And if he doesn't fix it he will find himself out of a job. Why keep running to the left over and over on first down when it doesn't work? The Giants were stopping the run and he kept on doing it, even when passing against banged up CBs was working, he kept running. That needs to change. If the run isn't working, and the pass is, then pass! Sheesh.
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> Jim Zorn's QB stats...
>
> TD-INT 111-141
> Yards 21,115
> QB Rating 77.3
>
>
> Jason Campbell's...
>
> TD-INT 35-23
> Passing yards 7,242
> QB Rating 80.4
>
>
> Even with Zorn having Steve Largent as his top
> receiver, Campbell has better numbers than Zorn
> did. Maybe we should have a former QB who knew how
> to throw more TDs than picks coaching this team.
I was joking. I think Zorn's problem right now is his play calling. And if he doesn't fix it he will find himself out of a job. Why keep running to the left over and over on first down when it doesn't work? The Giants were stopping the run and he kept on doing it, even when passing against banged up CBs was working, he kept running. That needs to change. If the run isn't working, and the pass is, then pass! Sheesh.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:47PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never be
> more than mediocre IMHO.
> He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural
> ability to ever reach elite status or even "manage
> the game" status.
I think he can make it to "manage the game" status. His QB rating is always good and he hardly every throws INTS. Elite, I don't think so. He's too slow above the shoulders IMHO. That doesn't mean he can't win games with the right supporting case however. See: Trent Dilfer.
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> Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never be
> more than mediocre IMHO.
> He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural
> ability to ever reach elite status or even "manage
> the game" status.
I think he can make it to "manage the game" status. His QB rating is always good and he hardly every throws INTS. Elite, I don't think so. He's too slow above the shoulders IMHO. That doesn't mean he can't win games with the right supporting case however. See: Trent Dilfer.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:48PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a playoff
> game more recently than the Cowgirls and split
> with them last season.
"We?" Excuse me? What position do you play for the Skins?
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>
> We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a playoff
> game more recently than the Cowgirls and split
> with them last season.
"We?" Excuse me? What position do you play for the Skins?
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:49PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
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> > Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never
> be
> > more than mediocre IMHO.
> > He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural
> > ability to ever reach elite status or even
> "manage
> > the game" status.
>
> I think he can make it to "manage the game"
> status. His QB rating is always good and he hardly
> every throws INTS. Elite, I don't think so. He's
> too slow above the shoulders IMHO. That doesn't
> mean he can't win games with the right supporting
> case however. See: Trent Dilfer.
The Skins have a QB who can't throw much more than a dozen TDs in a season and a Running Back who can't get the ball in the End Zone from 3rd and Short. Other than that, they have a stellar offense.
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> Numbers Wrote:
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> > Campbell is not a horrible QB, but he can never
> be
> > more than mediocre IMHO.
> > He simply doesn't have the smarts or natural
> > ability to ever reach elite status or even
> "manage
> > the game" status.
>
> I think he can make it to "manage the game"
> status. His QB rating is always good and he hardly
> every throws INTS. Elite, I don't think so. He's
> too slow above the shoulders IMHO. That doesn't
> mean he can't win games with the right supporting
> case however. See: Trent Dilfer.
The Skins have a QB who can't throw much more than a dozen TDs in a season and a Running Back who can't get the ball in the End Zone from 3rd and Short. Other than that, they have a stellar offense.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:50PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> This poses the question....Does anyone think that
> anyone on the Skins offense now is destined for
> the Hall of Fame?
>
> If he has a long enough career, Cooley could
> certainly be a possibility. And I guess you could
> make a case for Portis, though personally at this
> time I don't think he rates it. But does anyone
> see Santana Moss or Randel El in the Hall of Fame?
> I don't.
I think you hit the nail on the head with Cooley and Portis. Other than that, who knows. Once you WIN a superbowl, or two, your chances of becoming HOF go up by quite a bit.
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> This poses the question....Does anyone think that
> anyone on the Skins offense now is destined for
> the Hall of Fame?
>
> If he has a long enough career, Cooley could
> certainly be a possibility. And I guess you could
> make a case for Portis, though personally at this
> time I don't think he rates it. But does anyone
> see Santana Moss or Randel El in the Hall of Fame?
> I don't.
I think you hit the nail on the head with Cooley and Portis. Other than that, who knows. Once you WIN a superbowl, or two, your chances of becoming HOF go up by quite a bit.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:51PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> More Complete Wrote:
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>
> >
> > We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a
> playoff
> > game more recently than the Cowgirls and split
> > with them last season.
>
> "We?" Excuse me? What position do you play for the
> Skins?
Please man. Now you're just being petty. Care to answer the question? Are you a fan of the team or just a hater?
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> More Complete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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>
> >
> > We swept the Eagles last year. We've won a
> playoff
> > game more recently than the Cowgirls and split
> > with them last season.
>
> "We?" Excuse me? What position do you play for the
> Skins?
Please man. Now you're just being petty. Care to answer the question? Are you a fan of the team or just a hater?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:51PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> I was joking. I think Zorn's problem right now is
> his play calling. And if he doesn't fix it he will
> find himself out of a job. Why keep running to the
> left over and over on first down when it doesn't
> work? The Giants were stopping the run and he kept
> on doing it, even when passing against banged up
> CBs was working, he kept running. That needs to
> change. If the run isn't working, and the pass is,
> then pass! Sheesh.
Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can put pressure on a QB with their front line (unlike the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and DBs into coverage. You have to try the run sometimes to keep the linebackers and strong safety honest.
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>
> I was joking. I think Zorn's problem right now is
> his play calling. And if he doesn't fix it he will
> find himself out of a job. Why keep running to the
> left over and over on first down when it doesn't
> work? The Giants were stopping the run and he kept
> on doing it, even when passing against banged up
> CBs was working, he kept running. That needs to
> change. If the run isn't working, and the pass is,
> then pass! Sheesh.
Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can put pressure on a QB with their front line (unlike the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and DBs into coverage. You have to try the run sometimes to keep the linebackers and strong safety honest.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 16, 2009 12:54PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can
> put pressure on a QB with their front line (unlike
> the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and DBs
> into coverage. You have to try the run sometimes
> to keep the linebackers and strong safety honest.
Agreed but you can pass to set up the run just as easy as you can run to set up the pass. Isn't that what the WCO is all about? It looked like Gibbs was calling the plays out there at times.
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>
> Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can
> put pressure on a QB with their front line (unlike
> the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and DBs
> into coverage. You have to try the run sometimes
> to keep the linebackers and strong safety honest.
Agreed but you can pass to set up the run just as easy as you can run to set up the pass. Isn't that what the WCO is all about? It looked like Gibbs was calling the plays out there at times.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 02:09PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> >
> > Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can
> > put pressure on a QB with their front line
> (unlike
> > the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and
> DBs
> > into coverage. You have to try the run
> sometimes
> > to keep the linebackers and strong safety
> honest.
>
> Agreed but you can pass to set up the run just as
> easy as you can run to set up the pass. Isn't that
> what the WCO is all about? It looked like Gibbs
> was calling the plays out there at times.
Even in the WCO, you have to establish the run at some point. Otherwise the defense can free up the line backers to sit on your receivers' routes in the middle.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > Because the Giants are a pass rush team who can
> > put pressure on a QB with their front line
> (unlike
> > the Redskins) while dropping linebackers and
> DBs
> > into coverage. You have to try the run
> sometimes
> > to keep the linebackers and strong safety
> honest.
>
> Agreed but you can pass to set up the run just as
> easy as you can run to set up the pass. Isn't that
> what the WCO is all about? It looked like Gibbs
> was calling the plays out there at times.
Even in the WCO, you have to establish the run at some point. Otherwise the defense can free up the line backers to sit on your receivers' routes in the middle.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
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()
Date: September 16, 2009 02:31PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Even in the WCO, you have to establish the run at
> some point. Otherwise the defense can free up the
> line backers to sit on your receivers' routes in
> the middle.
Yes but you also have to mix it up a bit so as not to be so predictable. The Skins were so predictable on first-down running plays that Portis ran to the left – behind tackle Chris Samuels and guard Derrick Dockery – eight out of nine times.
As for the passing game on first downs, Campbell completed eight out of 10 attempts for 109 yards and a touchdown. That’s 10.9 yards per completion. So when Campbell was allowed to throw the ball on first downs, he picked apart the Giants defense – especially down the middle of the field (as evident by the abundance of passes to Cooley and Randle El). Why keep running left on the first down when it's getting an average of 2yds a run?
Look at Bill Belicheat... the guy does whatever works until the defense stops it - and then changes it up. I wish we could see Zorn ADJUST during the game once in a while instead of just sticking to his guns and doing the same predictable thing over and over, when it's obvious to everyone but him that it's not working.
Course, then you'd have to worry about Portis bitching that he didn't get enough touches. ;-)
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> Even in the WCO, you have to establish the run at
> some point. Otherwise the defense can free up the
> line backers to sit on your receivers' routes in
> the middle.
Yes but you also have to mix it up a bit so as not to be so predictable. The Skins were so predictable on first-down running plays that Portis ran to the left – behind tackle Chris Samuels and guard Derrick Dockery – eight out of nine times.
As for the passing game on first downs, Campbell completed eight out of 10 attempts for 109 yards and a touchdown. That’s 10.9 yards per completion. So when Campbell was allowed to throw the ball on first downs, he picked apart the Giants defense – especially down the middle of the field (as evident by the abundance of passes to Cooley and Randle El). Why keep running left on the first down when it's getting an average of 2yds a run?
Look at Bill Belicheat... the guy does whatever works until the defense stops it - and then changes it up. I wish we could see Zorn ADJUST during the game once in a while instead of just sticking to his guns and doing the same predictable thing over and over, when it's obvious to everyone but him that it's not working.
Course, then you'd have to worry about Portis bitching that he didn't get enough touches. ;-)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 02:34PM
While I think it is good to have Campbell throwing more, I think the fact that Campbell had the ball knocked out of his hand while looking for an open receiver is part of the problem. He can only throw to two receivers so many times before those receivers are going to be covered or the ball is going to be picked.
As for Portis's running style, he blew open a big run at the beginning of the game. It's possible Zorn kept with the run in hopes he could do it again.
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As for Portis's running style, he blew open a big run at the beginning of the game. It's possible Zorn kept with the run in hopes he could do it again.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
()
Date: September 16, 2009 03:20PM
the redskins have a great defense. they kept them in that game even with the g men starting in redskin territory multiple times and made turnovers to put the offense in a position to score. the offense is just miserable though. you cant put it all on JC, in fact i think the play calling has a lot to do with their suckiness. but then again they may be making such conservative play calls because they have as much faith in their qb as ffu'ers have in boo being a good person.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 03:30PM
un-fairfax aboveground Wrote:
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> the redskins have a great defense. they kept them
> in that game even with the g men starting in
> redskin territory multiple times and made
> turnovers to put the offense in a position to
> score. the offense is just miserable though. you
> cant put it all on JC, in fact i think the play
> calling has a lot to do with their suckiness. but
> then again they may be making such conservative
> play calls because they have as much faith in
> their qb as ffu'ers have in boo being a good
> person.
The Redskins defense is very good, but not "great." A great defense involves a pass rush and corners who can not only intercept the ball, but break up catches. Even Zorn admits that the DBs play too far off of the receivers (a classic Carlos Rogers move). When Carlos Rogers starts getting his hands between the receiver and the ball, then I might change my mind.
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> the redskins have a great defense. they kept them
> in that game even with the g men starting in
> redskin territory multiple times and made
> turnovers to put the offense in a position to
> score. the offense is just miserable though. you
> cant put it all on JC, in fact i think the play
> calling has a lot to do with their suckiness. but
> then again they may be making such conservative
> play calls because they have as much faith in
> their qb as ffu'ers have in boo being a good
> person.
The Redskins defense is very good, but not "great." A great defense involves a pass rush and corners who can not only intercept the ball, but break up catches. Even Zorn admits that the DBs play too far off of the receivers (a classic Carlos Rogers move). When Carlos Rogers starts getting his hands between the receiver and the ball, then I might change my mind.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 16, 2009 04:05PM
The reason Campbell doesn't have many picks is because he always chooses the safe drop off passes or short to intermediate throws. He is NOT very accurate on most of those throws and the receivers usually have to break stride or come back to the ball. Moss and Cooley have done everything they can to pad Campbells numbers for him.
A QB can't reach "manage the game" status until he is able to read the defense and call the right audible at the line. Zorn knows Campbell is incapable of doing this so he keeps the play in whether it will work or not.
To me, there are 3 classes of QB in the NFL.
*Elite = Brady and (Peyton) Manning. Maybe Drew Brees
*Manage the Game" = Rothlisberger, Warner, Rivers, Edwards, (Eli) Manning, Romo, Rodgers, etc...
*Going Nowhere" = Tavaris Jackson, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell, Carson Palmer, Kyle Ortin, etc....
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A QB can't reach "manage the game" status until he is able to read the defense and call the right audible at the line. Zorn knows Campbell is incapable of doing this so he keeps the play in whether it will work or not.
To me, there are 3 classes of QB in the NFL.
*Elite = Brady and (Peyton) Manning. Maybe Drew Brees
*Manage the Game" = Rothlisberger, Warner, Rivers, Edwards, (Eli) Manning, Romo, Rodgers, etc...
*Going Nowhere" = Tavaris Jackson, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell, Carson Palmer, Kyle Ortin, etc....
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 16, 2009 04:36PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> To me, there are 3 classes of QB in the NFL.
>
> *Elite = Brady and (Peyton) Manning. Maybe Drew
> Brees
>
> *Manage the Game" = Rothlisberger, Warner, Rivers,
> Edwards, (Eli) Manning, Romo, Rodgers, etc...
>
> *Going Nowhere" = Tavaris Jackson, Mike Vick,
> Jason Campbell, Carson Palmer, Kyle Ortin, etc....
I think you should add Romo to that "going nowhere" list. When the Cowboys lose, it is usually do to some boneheaded mistake he has made. I think of Romo as less of a young Favre and more of an old Rex Grossman.
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>
> To me, there are 3 classes of QB in the NFL.
>
> *Elite = Brady and (Peyton) Manning. Maybe Drew
> Brees
>
> *Manage the Game" = Rothlisberger, Warner, Rivers,
> Edwards, (Eli) Manning, Romo, Rodgers, etc...
>
> *Going Nowhere" = Tavaris Jackson, Mike Vick,
> Jason Campbell, Carson Palmer, Kyle Ortin, etc....
I think you should add Romo to that "going nowhere" list. When the Cowboys lose, it is usually do to some boneheaded mistake he has made. I think of Romo as less of a young Favre and more of an old Rex Grossman.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 16, 2009 06:33PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I think you should add Romo to that "going
> nowhere" list. When the Cowboys lose, it is
> usually do to some boneheaded mistake he has made.
> I think of Romo as less of a young Favre and more
> of an old Rex Grossman.
I could live with that. Romo has his moments, but when he is bad, he's REALLY bad. I wish he and Jessica Simpson would get back together again.
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> I think you should add Romo to that "going
> nowhere" list. When the Cowboys lose, it is
> usually do to some boneheaded mistake he has made.
> I think of Romo as less of a young Favre and more
> of an old Rex Grossman.
I could live with that. Romo has his moments, but when he is bad, he's REALLY bad. I wish he and Jessica Simpson would get back together again.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
rh7s
()
Date: September 17, 2009 10:47AM
Zorn has 4 weeks or he's gone.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 17, 2009 10:54AM
What about the "just doesn't have it anymore" category. I think we can put Delhomme in that one. ;-)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 20, 2009 10:29PM
Well despite the team getting booed off the field after a win, I thought there were positive strides. They moved the ball great against the weaker defense, they just couldn't capitalize inside the 10 which needs to be fixed. Today it was poor play calling, fairly good execution by both the offense and defense. ONly thing with the defense is they need to step it up on third downs, but their main problem last year of not forcing turnovers seems to look vastly inproved.
Let's go into Detroit, losers of 19 games in a row,go to 2-1 and take it from there. I'm sure they'll fix a few things this week. I am still very optimistic this team can compete and beat anyone.
Let's go into Detroit, losers of 19 games in a row,go to 2-1 and take it from there. I'm sure they'll fix a few things this week. I am still very optimistic this team can compete and beat anyone.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 21, 2009 08:34AM
I'm not one to go off the deep end, but FIRE ZORN!!! Replace him with Danny Smith. Danny seems as though he has the moxy to lead these baby huey's, and has the street smarts to call game based on eb and flow. Or, at the very least, how to control the clock.
I think Snyder has reached the apex of milking the cash cow known as the Redskins. It looked like there were whole lots of empty seats in the stadium, even on the first concourse. Then of course there was the booing despite a win. No more moral victory's for this team, we've had enough of those. The players were offended by this. They, however don't live the real world like the rest of us. Football is suposed to be entertainment. Brother, no one was entertained by yesterdays performance.
I think Snyder has reached the apex of milking the cash cow known as the Redskins. It looked like there were whole lots of empty seats in the stadium, even on the first concourse. Then of course there was the booing despite a win. No more moral victory's for this team, we've had enough of those. The players were offended by this. They, however don't live the real world like the rest of us. Football is suposed to be entertainment. Brother, no one was entertained by yesterdays performance.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 21, 2009 09:26AM
I don't think Snyder should or would fire Zorn because he's got nothing to replace him with. I think it is becoming apparent to any decent NFL coach that, based on the way Snyder treated Gibbs, Greg Williams and Schottenheimer, that Snyder is not a guy you want to work for if you want to be a success as a coach. Maybe Snyder will pick up a desperate guy like Jim Fassel or Dick Jauron (who probably won't be in Buffalo next year). But that will do nothing to change the way this team plays.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 21, 2009 09:38AM
I'm not saying Danny Smith will be our savior, but he can't do any worse then zorn. From watching him on the sidelines and hearing him in interviews, he has that scrapper mentality about him.
To be honest, until this team has to go away for training camp, like it used to. They are forvever going to be a .500 team. I'm not sure when they started keeping things in-house at redskins park. Maybe marty was the last coach to have camp?
To be honest, until this team has to go away for training camp, like it used to. They are forvever going to be a .500 team. I'm not sure when they started keeping things in-house at redskins park. Maybe marty was the last coach to have camp?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
campbell redux
()
Date: September 21, 2009 09:41AM
Campbell has a slow release and accordingly must lock on receivers too early and often. The so-called West Coast offense only makes these problems more manifest.
Historically the way to win in the NFC East is to play the way the Giants now play - great defense with a bruising running game.
Snyder appears to be attracted to the prospect of a high fireworks offense (witness Spurrier, his premature dis-satisfaction with Schottenheimer, and now Zorn), which statistically just doesn't work.
And Tonelician is right - mediocrity will reign most often because they have not invested wisely in draft picks.
Historically the way to win in the NFC East is to play the way the Giants now play - great defense with a bruising running game.
Snyder appears to be attracted to the prospect of a high fireworks offense (witness Spurrier, his premature dis-satisfaction with Schottenheimer, and now Zorn), which statistically just doesn't work.
And Tonelician is right - mediocrity will reign most often because they have not invested wisely in draft picks.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 21, 2009 10:17AM
As long as Snyder runs the team, we might as well just copy and past these thread year after year. Because nothing is going to change until people, stop going to games, and stop buying merchandise and thus reduce his revenue. As fans, that is the only thing in our control to change the fate of the franchise.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 21, 2009 10:18AM
campbell redux Wrote:
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> Campbell has a slow release and accordingly must
> lock on receivers too early and often. The
> so-called West Coast offense only makes these
> problems more manifest.
>
>
I was watching a replay of Drew Brees in New Orleans. They showed how Brees will stare off a safety to get him to move out of position and then will turn and throw into the gap he just created. Then I see Campbell throw into double-coverage on Moss. I don't know if the O-Line is the problem or if Campbell can't break the habit of looking for an open receiver versus trusting the timing routes, but something isn't working.
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> Campbell has a slow release and accordingly must
> lock on receivers too early and often. The
> so-called West Coast offense only makes these
> problems more manifest.
>
>
I was watching a replay of Drew Brees in New Orleans. They showed how Brees will stare off a safety to get him to move out of position and then will turn and throw into the gap he just created. Then I see Campbell throw into double-coverage on Moss. I don't know if the O-Line is the problem or if Campbell can't break the habit of looking for an open receiver versus trusting the timing routes, but something isn't working.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 21, 2009 10:22AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> As long as Snyder runs the team, we might as well
> just copy and past these thread year after year.
> Because nothing is going to change until people,
> stop going to games, and stop buying merchandise
> and thus reduce his revenue. As fans, that is the
> only thing in our control to change the fate of
> the franchise.
If the Ravens get to the Super Bowl this year, that should put a major dent in Danny's pocketbook at some point. Better team. Better owner. Better game experience. And probably less hassle to get to from most Maryland suburbs than one-lane Landover.
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> As long as Snyder runs the team, we might as well
> just copy and past these thread year after year.
> Because nothing is going to change until people,
> stop going to games, and stop buying merchandise
> and thus reduce his revenue. As fans, that is the
> only thing in our control to change the fate of
> the franchise.
If the Ravens get to the Super Bowl this year, that should put a major dent in Danny's pocketbook at some point. Better team. Better owner. Better game experience. And probably less hassle to get to from most Maryland suburbs than one-lane Landover.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 21, 2009 11:53AM
The official countdown is on.
So, how many more weeks for Zorn? I say 4.
So, how many more weeks for Zorn? I say 4.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 21, 2009 02:39PM
Zorn has the whole year. Changing a coach mid-season is complete giving up. They have a good football team, lets wait and see.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 21, 2009 02:47PM
I don't think Danny Boy will oust Zorn before the end of the season, though I don't see him being back next year. He only did that one time with Norv Turner and that's because he inherited Turner and hated him. Hell, Danny Boy didn't fire Schottenheimer mid-season when he went 0-5 and refused to play Danny's Boy Toy, Jeff George.
Naw. Danny will wait until the end of this season. I don't know if he will get Cowher or Shanahan because those guys want control over personnel and Danny Boy doesn't want to do that. He may go the way of these other teams and promote a young OC from a successful team.
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Naw. Danny will wait until the end of this season. I don't know if he will get Cowher or Shanahan because those guys want control over personnel and Danny Boy doesn't want to do that. He may go the way of these other teams and promote a young OC from a successful team.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
RIpoff
()
Date: September 21, 2009 08:27PM
Damn, I couldn't even get free toppings on my Papa John's pizza tonight.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 21, 2009 09:03PM
RIpoff Wrote:
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> Damn, I couldn't even get free toppings on my Papa
> John's pizza tonight.
Get used to it.
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> Damn, I couldn't even get free toppings on my Papa
> John's pizza tonight.
Get used to it.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nostrodammit
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:32AM
2010 nfl predictions
1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired
2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired
3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired
4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired
5)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired
6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired
7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
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**Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired
2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired
3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired
4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired
5)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired
6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired
7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
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**Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 22, 2009 08:23AM
I have yet to hear any rumors of Urban Meyer making the NFL jump and why would we? I can't think of any college coaches who have made the jump successfully.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 22, 2009 10:23AM
Nostrodammit Wrote:
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> 2010 nfl predictions
>
> 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired YES
>
> 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired YES
>
> 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired No way in Hell Danny Boy would hire someone who will tell him to fuck off on player personnel matters
>
> 4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired Can't see Meyer pulling a Saban/Spurrier/Petrino
>
> 5)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired Childress's fate depends on what happens with Favre. If they make the playoffs, Childress keeps his job. Dungee isn't coming back to coaching, at least at the NFL level
>
> 6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired If Reid leaves, it will be because he is fired. Holmgren is done for the foreseeable future.
>
> 7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green? Denny Green will never be a head coach in the NFL again because of that "Let them off the hook" tirade.
>
> 8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired YES. Even though that gig in the UFL must be so sweet
>
> ------------------
> **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired I hope so
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> 2010 nfl predictions
>
> 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired YES
>
> 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired YES
>
> 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired No way in Hell Danny Boy would hire someone who will tell him to fuck off on player personnel matters
>
> 4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired Can't see Meyer pulling a Saban/Spurrier/Petrino
>
> 5)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired Childress's fate depends on what happens with Favre. If they make the playoffs, Childress keeps his job. Dungee isn't coming back to coaching, at least at the NFL level
>
> 6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired If Reid leaves, it will be because he is fired. Holmgren is done for the foreseeable future.
>
> 7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green? Denny Green will never be a head coach in the NFL again because of that "Let them off the hook" tirade.
>
> 8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired YES. Even though that gig in the UFL must be so sweet
>
> ------------------
> **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired I hope so
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
-..SBS.-
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:15PM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I have yet to hear any rumors of Urban Meyer
> making the NFL jump and why would we? I can't
> think of any college coaches who have made the
> jump successfully.
Jimmy Johnson? At U. of Miami before going to Cowboys.
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> I have yet to hear any rumors of Urban Meyer
> making the NFL jump and why would we? I can't
> think of any college coaches who have made the
> jump successfully.
Jimmy Johnson? At U. of Miami before going to Cowboys.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:26PM
-..SBS.- Wrote:
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have yet to hear any rumors of Urban Meyer
> > making the NFL jump and why would we? I can't
> > think of any college coaches who have made the
> > jump successfully.
>
>
> Jimmy Johnson? At U. of Miami before going to
> Cowboys.
Barry Switzer also won a Super Bowl in Dallas after Johnson left.
You also have Don Coryell, who coached SDSU before going to the Chargers.
Also, lots of head coaches were coordinators and position coaches in college before going to the NFL. These included Mike Holmgren and Vince Lombardi.
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have yet to hear any rumors of Urban Meyer
> > making the NFL jump and why would we? I can't
> > think of any college coaches who have made the
> > jump successfully.
>
>
> Jimmy Johnson? At U. of Miami before going to
> Cowboys.
Barry Switzer also won a Super Bowl in Dallas after Johnson left.
You also have Don Coryell, who coached SDSU before going to the Chargers.
Also, lots of head coaches were coordinators and position coaches in college before going to the NFL. These included Mike Holmgren and Vince Lombardi.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:42PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Well despite the team getting booed off the field
> after a win, I thought there were positive
> strides. They moved the ball great against the
> weaker defense, they just couldn't capitalize
> inside the 10 which needs to be fixed. Today it
> was poor play calling, fairly good execution by
> both the offense and defense. ONly thing with the
> defense is they need to step it up on third downs,
> but their main problem last year of not forcing
> turnovers seems to look vastly inproved.
>
> Let's go into Detroit, losers of 19 games in a
> row,go to 2-1 and take it from there. I'm sure
> they'll fix a few things this week. I am still
> very optimistic this team can compete and beat
> anyone.
Agreed. For all the booing going on the play calling and execution was much better than it was last week (aside from the redzone). As long as I see improvement each week, I'm going to remain optimistic.
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> Well despite the team getting booed off the field
> after a win, I thought there were positive
> strides. They moved the ball great against the
> weaker defense, they just couldn't capitalize
> inside the 10 which needs to be fixed. Today it
> was poor play calling, fairly good execution by
> both the offense and defense. ONly thing with the
> defense is they need to step it up on third downs,
> but their main problem last year of not forcing
> turnovers seems to look vastly inproved.
>
> Let's go into Detroit, losers of 19 games in a
> row,go to 2-1 and take it from there. I'm sure
> they'll fix a few things this week. I am still
> very optimistic this team can compete and beat
> anyone.
Agreed. For all the booing going on the play calling and execution was much better than it was last week (aside from the redzone). As long as I see improvement each week, I'm going to remain optimistic.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:47PM
More Complete Wrote:
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. As long as I
> see improvement each week, I'm going to remain
> optimistic.
17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are going the wrong direction.
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. As long as I
> see improvement each week, I'm going to remain
> optimistic.
17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are going the wrong direction.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:57PM
I really believe that if they lose to the Lions this week, Snyder will pull the trigger and fire Zorn immediately and get an intermediate coach to take over until someone becomes available.
As far as I can remember, the Skins have NEVER lost to the Lions and the lions losing streak is at 19 straight. This would be a league wide embarrassment and one that Snyder could not take.
The theory being to get the transition started before next season, so next year is not a complete failure due to the coaching change.
As far as I can remember, the Skins have NEVER lost to the Lions and the lions losing streak is at 19 straight. This would be a league wide embarrassment and one that Snyder could not take.
The theory being to get the transition started before next season, so next year is not a complete failure due to the coaching change.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:27PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> 17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
>
> 9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
>
> That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are
> going the wrong direction.
Well you've already shown to know next to nothing about the team so this doesn't surpise me. ;)
Go back to listening to Chad and Arrington, I'm sure they will agree with you.
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> 17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
>
> 9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
>
> That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are
> going the wrong direction.
Well you've already shown to know next to nothing about the team so this doesn't surpise me. ;)
Go back to listening to Chad and Arrington, I'm sure they will agree with you.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:38PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> More Complete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> . As long as I
> > see improvement each week, I'm going to remain
> > optimistic.
>
>
> 17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
>
> 9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
>
> That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are
> going the wrong direction.
Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes would have drastically altered the argument here.
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> More Complete Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> . As long as I
> > see improvement each week, I'm going to remain
> > optimistic.
>
>
> 17 points scored against the Giants in week 1
>
> 9 points scored against the Rams in week 2
>
> That's "improvement?" Sounds to me like they are
> going the wrong direction.
Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes would have drastically altered the argument here.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:53PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes
> would have drastically altered the argument here.
Not to mention four drives of more than 60 yards with Campbell spreading it around to 8 different receivers and passing for 242 yards while dominating the time of possession. But let's not let facts and statistics get in the way of some good Redskins bashing. ;-)
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> Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes
> would have drastically altered the argument here.
Not to mention four drives of more than 60 yards with Campbell spreading it around to 8 different receivers and passing for 242 yards while dominating the time of possession. But let's not let facts and statistics get in the way of some good Redskins bashing. ;-)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:57PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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>
>
> Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes
> would have drastically altered the argument here.
To be fair, when have Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers demonstrated that they are the "go to" guys for passes?
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>
>
> Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes
> would have drastically altered the argument here.
To be fair, when have Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers demonstrated that they are the "go to" guys for passes?
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 22, 2009 03:08PM
I'd imagine professional receivers and backs who ARENT names Moss and Portis would be expected to catch passes when they're open.
What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do with? LOL
You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis dropped those passes?
I understand you're angry, but don't lose your mind, FFS.
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What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do with? LOL
You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis dropped those passes?
I understand you're angry, but don't lose your mind, FFS.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 22, 2009 09:56PM
Oh Dear. Robert Henson, linebacker for the Skins is calling the fans "dim-witted" for booing the team last sunday on his now removed Twitter page.
See story here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4495020
See story here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4495020
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 22, 2009 11:27PM
Yeah, the guy who never played a down in the game. LOL
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 23, 2009 09:49AM
What a jerkoff. Note to Henson: NFL stands for Not For Long.
Way to make a name for yourself. Hope he has a good backup career plan.
Way to make a name for yourself. Hope he has a good backup career plan.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 23, 2009 10:51AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> I'd imagine professional receivers and backs who
> ARENT names Moss and Portis would be expected to
> catch passes when they're open.
>
> What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do
> with? LOL
>
> You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis
> dropped those passes?
>
> I understand you're angry, but don't lose your
> mind, FFS.
"Go to" is pretty obvious. Chris Cooley is a "go to" guy because he catches the ball in all kinds of situations. So do Clinton Portis and Todd Yoder. Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers have demonstrated repeatedly that they have rock hands. No end zone play should rely on those guys catching the ball.
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> I'd imagine professional receivers and backs who
> ARENT names Moss and Portis would be expected to
> catch passes when they're open.
>
> What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do
> with? LOL
>
> You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis
> dropped those passes?
>
> I understand you're angry, but don't lose your
> mind, FFS.
"Go to" is pretty obvious. Chris Cooley is a "go to" guy because he catches the ball in all kinds of situations. So do Clinton Portis and Todd Yoder. Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers have demonstrated repeatedly that they have rock hands. No end zone play should rely on those guys catching the ball.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 23, 2009 12:16PM
ok, fine.
So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be your point?
( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing, but thanks for explaining.)
Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be your point?
( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing, but thanks for explaining.)
Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 23, 2009 12:57PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> ok, fine.
>
> So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be
> your point?
>
> ( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing,
> but thanks for explaining.)
>
> Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the
> gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when
> they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how
> Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a
> Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into
> "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And
> btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.
It would change things because it would have shown that Zorn understands what he is doing with his talent by going to Cooley. You don't design critical red zone plays with the intent of using your unreliable fourth receiver or your hands-of-stone full back as the playmaker.
Claiming that the Skins almost scored two TDs because of Thomas and Sellers dropping the ball is like saying the team almost scored two TDs by having Clinton Portis run a draw play at 3 and 13 from the 20 yard line. In all instances it should have been apparent to Zorn and company that while it was possible it would work, odds were improbable that it would work.
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> ok, fine.
>
> So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be
> your point?
>
> ( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing,
> but thanks for explaining.)
>
> Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the
> gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when
> they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how
> Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a
> Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into
> "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And
> btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.
It would change things because it would have shown that Zorn understands what he is doing with his talent by going to Cooley. You don't design critical red zone plays with the intent of using your unreliable fourth receiver or your hands-of-stone full back as the playmaker.
Claiming that the Skins almost scored two TDs because of Thomas and Sellers dropping the ball is like saying the team almost scored two TDs by having Clinton Portis run a draw play at 3 and 13 from the 20 yard line. In all instances it should have been apparent to Zorn and company that while it was possible it would work, odds were improbable that it would work.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 23, 2009 01:41PM
Number Wrote:
>Oh Dear. Robert Henson, linebacker for the Skins is calling the fans "dim->witted" for booing the team last sunday on his now removed Twitter page.
Maybe he should look in the Mirror. The players who don't understand the boos are the dim-witted ones. People watch NFL and sports in gerneral to be entertainment. In fact, sports is part of the entertainment industry if I am not mistaken. NO ONE WAS ENTERTAINED last sunday, or the past year at that. The entertainment value of this franchise has been on a percipitous decline for 8 years. Fans at the stadium probably pay out $500 on average and 10 hours of thier time for the typical game day expeierence. Why, TO BE ENTERTAINED!
Maybe if some of those clownes actually graduated, or took a business class or any real class, they would get this. I know some of them do, you hear them say "This is a business at the end of day" during thier contract negotiations.
Someone should give these guys a copy of the movie "Gladiator". As I recall in the movie, the greatest gladiator in Rome was great because he enterained the crowd, not just won.
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>Oh Dear. Robert Henson, linebacker for the Skins is calling the fans "dim->witted" for booing the team last sunday on his now removed Twitter page.
Maybe he should look in the Mirror. The players who don't understand the boos are the dim-witted ones. People watch NFL and sports in gerneral to be entertainment. In fact, sports is part of the entertainment industry if I am not mistaken. NO ONE WAS ENTERTAINED last sunday, or the past year at that. The entertainment value of this franchise has been on a percipitous decline for 8 years. Fans at the stadium probably pay out $500 on average and 10 hours of thier time for the typical game day expeierence. Why, TO BE ENTERTAINED!
Maybe if some of those clownes actually graduated, or took a business class or any real class, they would get this. I know some of them do, you hear them say "This is a business at the end of day" during thier contract negotiations.
Someone should give these guys a copy of the movie "Gladiator". As I recall in the movie, the greatest gladiator in Rome was great because he enterained the crowd, not just won.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Jackie the Jokeman
()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:50PM
I'll tell you what's wrong with the skins, these religious coaches. Get a ball buster in here who can get these overpaid pussies into shape. Coach Zorn is a borderline woman. Bring in a real man and he'll get it done. Like Mike Shanahan...he'll break balls and make it happen.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:52PM
Jackie the Jokeman Wrote:
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> I'll tell you what's wrong with the skins, these
> religious coaches. Get a ball buster in here who
> can get these overpaid pussies into shape. Coach
> Zorn is a borderline woman. Bring in a real man
> and he'll get it done. Like Mike Shanahan...he'll
> break balls and make it happen.
That doesn't work with Snyder. If a ball-busting coach comes in and rips Portis a new asshole, Portis will go to Snyder and cry. Next thing you know, the coach will be on Red Zebra publicly apologizing to everyone.
This is no way to run an organization...ANY organization.
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> I'll tell you what's wrong with the skins, these
> religious coaches. Get a ball buster in here who
> can get these overpaid pussies into shape. Coach
> Zorn is a borderline woman. Bring in a real man
> and he'll get it done. Like Mike Shanahan...he'll
> break balls and make it happen.
That doesn't work with Snyder. If a ball-busting coach comes in and rips Portis a new asshole, Portis will go to Snyder and cry. Next thing you know, the coach will be on Red Zebra publicly apologizing to everyone.
This is no way to run an organization...ANY organization.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:52PM
BTW, Bill Parcells contract with the Dolphins is up this year. Does anyone think he'd be a good replacement for Vinny?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:54PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> BTW, Bill Parcells contract with the Dolphins is
> up this year. Does anyone think he'd be a good
> replacement for Vinny?
Yes. But he won't be.
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> BTW, Bill Parcells contract with the Dolphins is
> up this year. Does anyone think he'd be a good
> replacement for Vinny?
Yes. But he won't be.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 12:12PM
Great video from Sundays game...
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2009 12:13PM by More Complete.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2009 12:13PM by More Complete.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 01:24PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Great video from Sundays game...
>
> http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0900
> 0d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage
This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how fucking great he is in the middle of trying to beat his team. WTF???
It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil are known to put a boot up the ass when required.
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> Great video from Sundays game...
>
> http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0900
> 0d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage
This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how fucking great he is in the middle of trying to beat his team. WTF???
It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil are known to put a boot up the ass when required.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 01:49PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the
> fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there
> saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It
> wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how
> fucking great he is in the middle of trying to
> beat his team. WTF???
>
> It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to
> be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire
> or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head
> coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil
> are known to put a boot up the ass when required.
Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters always want to hate. What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team. A coach who is calm and decisive but who also can get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue, which you obviously do not.
When he says that to Jackson he's really saying "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.
Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the reason you like assholes so much is because you are one.
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> This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the
> fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there
> saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It
> wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how
> fucking great he is in the middle of trying to
> beat his team. WTF???
>
> It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to
> be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire
> or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head
> coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil
> are known to put a boot up the ass when required.
Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters always want to hate. What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team. A coach who is calm and decisive but who also can get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue, which you obviously do not.
When he says that to Jackson he's really saying "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.
Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the reason you like assholes so much is because you are one.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:22PM
More Complete Wrote:
> What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team.
What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?
If they didn't know before, now the whole offense knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a born non-leader.
> What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team.
What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?
If they didn't know before, now the whole offense knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a born non-leader.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:27PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters
> always want to hate. What just about everyone else
> sees is a head coach in command of his team.
Actually, nobody sees that. That's why there has been so much speculation about Zorn not finishing the season. The fans who booed Zorn on Sunday didn't see that, either.
A
> coach who is calm and decisive but who also can
> get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue,
> which you obviously do not.
Insult me all you want. The fact is Zorn isn't decisive and isn't in command. He has demonstrated horrible clock management. The running play that Portis got stopped on was a busted play because the O-Line didn't know which way to block. The only person Zorn seems to talk to on the team is Campbell.
>
> When he says that to Jackson he's really saying
> "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs
> here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.
>
No. He really likes Steven Jackson and wants his autograph after the game.
> Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the
> reason you like assholes so much is because you
> are one.
Gibbs knew how to get up someone's ass when he needed to. And Dungy was a nice guy because his players respected him for his command of the game. I get the impression for the players' body language that they don't respect Zorn or think he knows what he's doing.
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>
> Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters
> always want to hate. What just about everyone else
> sees is a head coach in command of his team.
Actually, nobody sees that. That's why there has been so much speculation about Zorn not finishing the season. The fans who booed Zorn on Sunday didn't see that, either.
A
> coach who is calm and decisive but who also can
> get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue,
> which you obviously do not.
Insult me all you want. The fact is Zorn isn't decisive and isn't in command. He has demonstrated horrible clock management. The running play that Portis got stopped on was a busted play because the O-Line didn't know which way to block. The only person Zorn seems to talk to on the team is Campbell.
>
> When he says that to Jackson he's really saying
> "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs
> here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.
>
No. He really likes Steven Jackson and wants his autograph after the game.
> Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the
> reason you like assholes so much is because you
> are one.
Gibbs knew how to get up someone's ass when he needed to. And Dungy was a nice guy because his players respected him for his command of the game. I get the impression for the players' body language that they don't respect Zorn or think he knows what he's doing.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:32PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be
> told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?
>
> If they didn't know before, now the whole offense
> knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a
> born non-leader.
Well the video is focusing on Zorn's interactions with Campbell. He simply said "tell the guys..." The only person with a radio is the QB. Zorn wanted a message delivered and Jason was the messenger.
WTF? WTF? WTF? Is that all you guys can say? Jesus.
Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I don't even want none of the above I want to piss on you, yes I do, I piss on you. ;)
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> What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be
> told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?
>
> If they didn't know before, now the whole offense
> knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a
> born non-leader.
Well the video is focusing on Zorn's interactions with Campbell. He simply said "tell the guys..." The only person with a radio is the QB. Zorn wanted a message delivered and Jason was the messenger.
WTF? WTF? WTF? Is that all you guys can say? Jesus.
Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I don't even want none of the above I want to piss on you, yes I do, I piss on you. ;)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:35PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I get the impression for the players' body
> language that they don't respect Zorn or think he
> knows what he's doing.
I get the impression, more and more with every post you make on this thread, that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho, I'm sure you would have.
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> I get the impression for the players' body
> language that they don't respect Zorn or think he
> knows what he's doing.
I get the impression, more and more with every post you make on this thread, that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho, I'm sure you would have.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2009 02:39PM by More Complete.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:45PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> I get the impression, more and more with every
> post you make on this thread, that you have no
> idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
>
> I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you
> ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho,
> I'm sure you would have.
Even Hitler knows the deal...
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>
> I get the impression, more and more with every
> post you make on this thread, that you have no
> idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
>
> I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you
> ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho,
> I'm sure you would have.
Even Hitler knows the deal...
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:50PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Even Hitler knows the deal...
>
>
Blocked. Tho I think I've seen it and it was funny the first time, two years ago.
The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows football very well. It also clearly shows he hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.
If you can't see that I can't help you.
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> Even Hitler knows the deal...
>
>
Blocked. Tho I think I've seen it and it was funny the first time, two years ago.
The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows football very well. It also clearly shows he hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.
If you can't see that I can't help you.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:58PM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows
> football very well. It also clearly shows he
> hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like
> to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.
>
Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?
"I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said. "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I think everybody in this organization on the hot seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long before people just give up and stop coming? You look at the players, and people want you out of here. You look at the coach, people want you out of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we come out and play to our potential, I think everybody on the hot seat."
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>
> The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows
> football very well. It also clearly shows he
> hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like
> to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.
>
Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?
"I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said. "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I think everybody in this organization on the hot seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long before people just give up and stop coming? You look at the players, and people want you out of here. You look at the coach, people want you out of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we come out and play to our potential, I think everybody on the hot seat."
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:20PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the
> newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?
>
> "I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said.
> "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I
> think everybody in this organization on the hot
> seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he
> on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long
> before people just give up and stop coming? You
> look at the players, and people want you out of
> here. You look at the coach, people want you out
> of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we
> come out and play to our potential, I think
> everybody on the hot seat."
You can read into what you want but you are taking this out of context. Portis has repeatedly expressed confidence in Zorn as has just about everyone else on the team. Here is an excerpt from Cooleys blog for example....
Alright, I've spent the last two days listening to never ending gripe about how terrible the Washington Redskins are. Our coaching is dreadful. Zorn is on the hot seat. Our play calling is outright awful. Anyone can call better red zone plays. Our team is a bunch of overpaid bums. Getting booed by a bunch of "dim-wits." And I don't even need to mention the way fans despise our ownership. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
and a quote from Portis earlier in the week...
"We execute the plays--Coach Zorn, ohhh, he's a great play caller," Portis said. "Being that we haven't executed, we're dropping passes, we're a second away, it makes it look like--Oh, what'd he call that play for? If the play is successful-- Oh, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn....Like I said man, we all together, we all believe and we gonna keep fighting as a team."
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> Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the
> newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?
>
> "I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said.
> "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I
> think everybody in this organization on the hot
> seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he
> on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long
> before people just give up and stop coming? You
> look at the players, and people want you out of
> here. You look at the coach, people want you out
> of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we
> come out and play to our potential, I think
> everybody on the hot seat."
You can read into what you want but you are taking this out of context. Portis has repeatedly expressed confidence in Zorn as has just about everyone else on the team. Here is an excerpt from Cooleys blog for example....
Alright, I've spent the last two days listening to never ending gripe about how terrible the Washington Redskins are. Our coaching is dreadful. Zorn is on the hot seat. Our play calling is outright awful. Anyone can call better red zone plays. Our team is a bunch of overpaid bums. Getting booed by a bunch of "dim-wits." And I don't even need to mention the way fans despise our ownership. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
and a quote from Portis earlier in the week...
"We execute the plays--Coach Zorn, ohhh, he's a great play caller," Portis said. "Being that we haven't executed, we're dropping passes, we're a second away, it makes it look like--Oh, what'd he call that play for? If the play is successful-- Oh, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn....Like I said man, we all together, we all believe and we gonna keep fighting as a team."
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:22PM
You can read more of Portis interview here and get back to me on how Zorn has lost the team...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:36PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> You can read more of Portis interview here and get
> back to me on how Zorn has lost the team...
>
Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.
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> You can read more of Portis interview here and get
> back to me on how Zorn has lost the team...
>
Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:38PM
Miffed over his lack of playing time in last week's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Portis used his radio airtime on WTEM-AM to accuse Zorn of sending mixed messages. He also sarcastically called Zorn a "genius," spoke of the possibility of severing ties with the organization and said of the coaching staff: "I don't think they know what they want me to do."
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
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()
Date: September 24, 2009 04:26PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.
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> Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 24, 2009 04:27PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Miffed over his lack of playing time in last
> week's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Portis
> used his radio airtime on WTEM-AM to accuse Zorn
> of sending mixed messages. He also sarcastically
> called Zorn a "genius," spoke of the possibility
> of severing ties with the organization and said of
> the coaching staff: "I don't think they know what
> they want me to do."
This was last year. Nice try. Last time I checked, Zorn is still coach.
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> Miffed over his lack of playing time in last
> week's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Portis
> used his radio airtime on WTEM-AM to accuse Zorn
> of sending mixed messages. He also sarcastically
> called Zorn a "genius," spoke of the possibility
> of severing ties with the organization and said of
> the coaching staff: "I don't think they know what
> they want me to do."
This was last year. Nice try. Last time I checked, Zorn is still coach.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 25, 2009 09:02AM
For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually calling the correct plays, and if executed correctly, that play would work. However, since the plays being called are not executed correctly, running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped, and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical conclusion is there must be a problem with how these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get enough effort out of the team during practice as Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 09:35AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are calling the wrong plays.
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are calling the wrong plays.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:02AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
Well thought out, good point. This would also explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
Well thought out, good point. This would also explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:07AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> > calling the correct plays, and if executed
> > correctly, that play would work. However,
> since
> > the plays being called are not executed
> correctly,
> > running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> > and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the
> logical
> > conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> > these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't
> get
> > enough effort out of the team during practice
> as
> > Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
>
> Well thought out, good point. This would also
> explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.
So building plays around unreliable players isn't Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a critical end zone catch should involve him as a target. If you want to spread out the offense at mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing. But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit is idiotic.
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> > calling the correct plays, and if executed
> > correctly, that play would work. However,
> since
> > the plays being called are not executed
> correctly,
> > running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> > and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the
> logical
> > conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> > these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't
> get
> > enough effort out of the team during practice
> as
> > Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
>
> Well thought out, good point. This would also
> explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.
So building plays around unreliable players isn't Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a critical end zone catch should involve him as a target. If you want to spread out the offense at mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing. But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit is idiotic.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:23AM
WTL Wrote:
>If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are >calling the wrong plays.
I'm sure plays Zorn called work great during practice against the taxi squad, and a defense half assing it. I'm sure the defensive schemes look great in practice against half assing offense. Practice isn't where the rubber meets road.
>If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are >calling the wrong plays.
I'm sure plays Zorn called work great during practice against the taxi squad, and a defense half assing it. I'm sure the defensive schemes look great in practice against half assing offense. Practice isn't where the rubber meets road.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:41AM
From the Madden Simulator.
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:45AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> From the Madden Simulator.
Fuck that was close!
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> From the Madden Simulator.
Fuck that was close!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 12:01PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> So building plays around unreliable players isn't
> Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players
> are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin
> Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a
> critical end zone catch should involve him as a
> target. If you want to spread out the offense at
> mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing.
> But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit
> is idiotic.
The Redskins have what every other team has. It's called a 53 man roster. Not everyone on the team is going to the pro bowl. You have to go with what you've got. Coach Zorn knows more about Devin Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and benchwarmers than you ever will. You don't support the team, we get it. Are you done?
> So building plays around unreliable players isn't
> Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players
> are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin
> Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a
> critical end zone catch should involve him as a
> target. If you want to spread out the offense at
> mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing.
> But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit
> is idiotic.
The Redskins have what every other team has. It's called a 53 man roster. Not everyone on the team is going to the pro bowl. You have to go with what you've got. Coach Zorn knows more about Devin Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and benchwarmers than you ever will. You don't support the team, we get it. Are you done?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:13PM
More Complete Wrote:
> Are you done?
LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication, we have 82 more pages to generate.
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> Are you done?
LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication, we have 82 more pages to generate.
__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:43PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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>
> LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication,
> we have 82 more pages to generate.
Awesome!!!
Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a hell of a season. ;-)
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>
> LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication,
> we have 82 more pages to generate.
Awesome!!!
Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a hell of a season. ;-)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:47PM
More Complete Wrote:
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Coach Zorn knows more about Devin
> Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and
> benchwarmers than you ever will.
You don't have the be a concert pianist to know when one is playing like shit.
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Coach Zorn knows more about Devin
> Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and
> benchwarmers than you ever will.
You don't have the be a concert pianist to know when one is playing like shit.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:48PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Warhawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any
> indication,
> > we have 82 more pages to generate.
>
> Awesome!!!
>
> Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a
> hell of a season. ;-)
And I venture to guess the end result will be the same.
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> Warhawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any
> indication,
> > we have 82 more pages to generate.
>
> Awesome!!!
>
> Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a
> hell of a season. ;-)
And I venture to guess the end result will be the same.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:22PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> And I venture to guess the end result will be the
> same.
Way to go out on a limb. *rolls eyes*
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>
> And I venture to guess the end result will be the
> same.
Way to go out on a limb. *rolls eyes*
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:26PM
USAToday: The Lions are finally facing someone they can beat after like 20 straight losses:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-nfl/
"If the Lions can build another double-digit lead, the ‘Skins might not be able to come back and win. And if that happens, Redskins coach Jim Zorn might not be able to come back to D.C. with his team."
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-nfl/
"If the Lions can build another double-digit lead, the ‘Skins might not be able to come back and win. And if that happens, Redskins coach Jim Zorn might not be able to come back to D.C. with his team."
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:55PM
I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will finally start revolting with thier wallets and Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 25, 2009 03:03PM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.
That's one thing I've never understood. With every fan I've ever talked to about Dan Snyder the conversation goes like this:
Me: Dan Snyder. What a douche.
FAN: Yeah, Dan Snyder is an idiot and I can't stand him, but at least he's willing to spend money.
Me: The Patriots don't spend nearly as much as the Skins and look at them.
Fan: True.
Me: So is Dan Snyder good for the team?
Fan: Probably not
Me: You know, if just half of the fans said "enough" with their wallets, he'd be forced to sell the team, and possibly to somebody who knows what they are doing.
Fan: Yeah, but I'm a Skins fan no matter what.
Me: Ok. Keep wallowing in mediocrity.
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.
That's one thing I've never understood. With every fan I've ever talked to about Dan Snyder the conversation goes like this:
Me: Dan Snyder. What a douche.
FAN: Yeah, Dan Snyder is an idiot and I can't stand him, but at least he's willing to spend money.
Me: The Patriots don't spend nearly as much as the Skins and look at them.
Fan: True.
Me: So is Dan Snyder good for the team?
Fan: Probably not
Me: You know, if just half of the fans said "enough" with their wallets, he'd be forced to sell the team, and possibly to somebody who knows what they are doing.
Fan: Yeah, but I'm a Skins fan no matter what.
Me: Ok. Keep wallowing in mediocrity.
__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 03:09PM
pgens Wrote:
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> USAToday: The Lions are finally facing someone
> they can beat after like 20 straight losses:
>
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-n
> fl/
An interesting factoid....
If anyone knows how to neutralize Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, it’s the man who knows him as well as anyone at the NFL level — long-time Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, now the Lions' coach.
This is going to be bad.
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> USAToday: The Lions are finally facing someone
> they can beat after like 20 straight losses:
>
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-n
> fl/
An interesting factoid....
If anyone knows how to neutralize Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, it’s the man who knows him as well as anyone at the NFL level — long-time Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, now the Lions' coach.
This is going to be bad.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 03:35PM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.
They lost me. I realized during last season's swoon that this is never going to change as long as Snyder is in charge. I am now a Ravens fan. I am going to buy some Ravens gear this weekend. Fuck Snyder. Not one more dime.
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.
They lost me. I realized during last season's swoon that this is never going to change as long as Snyder is in charge. I am now a Ravens fan. I am going to buy some Ravens gear this weekend. Fuck Snyder. Not one more dime.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:01PM
If you think Dan Snyder is going to sell the most profitable franchise in the NFL you're insane. Go buy your ghey purple rat bird gear. Better yet, just become a cowboys fan like every other bandwagon jumping loser... Snyder will be the owner of the Redskins for at least the next 15 years.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/25/2009 04:02PM by More Complete.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:05PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> If you think Dan Snyder is going to sell the most
> profitable franchise in the NFL you're insane.
If you look at Danny Boy's numbers, almost all of his profit comes from network TV contracts and the FedEx naming rights. He isn't making a profit from fans. Once the FedEx thing expires, watch out.
> Go
> buy your ghey purple rat bird gear.
I will buy the gear of a winner. That won't be the Redskins gear. And if I buy a jersey, it will be of a future Hall of Famer. Not much of that going around at the Skins these days.
Better yet,
> just become a cowboys fan like every other
> bandwagon jumping loser...
I don't like the Cowboys. Never have. Never will.
> Snyder will be the
> owner of the Redskins for at least the next 30
> years.
Unless he is bankrupted first.
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> If you think Dan Snyder is going to sell the most
> profitable franchise in the NFL you're insane.
If you look at Danny Boy's numbers, almost all of his profit comes from network TV contracts and the FedEx naming rights. He isn't making a profit from fans. Once the FedEx thing expires, watch out.
> Go
> buy your ghey purple rat bird gear.
I will buy the gear of a winner. That won't be the Redskins gear. And if I buy a jersey, it will be of a future Hall of Famer. Not much of that going around at the Skins these days.
Better yet,
> just become a cowboys fan like every other
> bandwagon jumping loser...
I don't like the Cowboys. Never have. Never will.
> Snyder will be the
> owner of the Redskins for at least the next 30
> years.
Unless he is bankrupted first.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:12PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Unless he is bankrupted first.
His Death is about the only thing that will remove him as owner.
Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly pathetic.
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>
> Unless he is bankrupted first.
His Death is about the only thing that will remove him as owner.
Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly pathetic.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:43PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Unless he is bankrupted first.
>
> His Death is about the only thing that will remove
> him as owner.
>
> Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly
> pathetic.
Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic. Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles. Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Unless he is bankrupted first.
>
> His Death is about the only thing that will remove
> him as owner.
>
> Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly
> pathetic.
Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic. Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles. Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:12PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic.
> Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles.
> Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If
> it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.
No, I had it right. Bandwagon fans are pathetic. You don't root for the owner and being a fan isn't always about winning.
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>
> Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic.
> Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles.
> Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If
> it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.
No, I had it right. Bandwagon fans are pathetic. You don't root for the owner and being a fan isn't always about winning.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:26PM
More Complete = Dan Snyder
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:35PM
496 Wrote:
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> More Complete = Dan Snyder
I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not, there is no way in hell I could wear another teams jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's just the way it is.
People calling themselves fans while wanting the team to do badly in hopes that Snyder sells the team are asinine as are those who "decide" to become fans of another team.
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> More Complete = Dan Snyder
I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not, there is no way in hell I could wear another teams jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's just the way it is.
People calling themselves fans while wanting the team to do badly in hopes that Snyder sells the team are asinine as are those who "decide" to become fans of another team.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 25, 2009 09:45PM
I've been a fan all my life as well. However, I'm not a tool, and Dan Snyder tools all the skins fans around as he pleases. The Redskins, in the end are just like any corporation and some people (such as myself) will not blindly pledge self allegiance.
I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am that Snyder is only the majority owner of the skins. Over the years he has been selling off pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the business genius he thinks he, he will start shopping the team around while its still at peak value. Because I don't think the fan base has to many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.
I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am that Snyder is only the majority owner of the skins. Over the years he has been selling off pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the business genius he thinks he, he will start shopping the team around while its still at peak value. Because I don't think the fan base has to many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 10:13PM
More Complete Wrote:
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Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.
>
They also come in black...
And white...
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Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.
>
They also come in black...
And white...
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 25, 2009 10:26PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More Complete = Dan Snyder
>
> I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going
> to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a
> Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.
So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at a Redskins' store?
This is what Danny Boy gives fans. A whole new selection of jerseys for over-priced flops each season.
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More Complete = Dan Snyder
>
> I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going
> to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a
> Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.
So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at a Redskins' store?
This is what Danny Boy gives fans. A whole new selection of jerseys for over-priced flops each season.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:45PM
Those Ravens jerseys are ugly as sin. Really. Purple? Gross. Plus, they suck and are really the browns, who sucked, which is how they ended up in Baltimore. But that's okay, when they really start sucking and you get mad at the owner you can just turn in your fan card and find another team too root for. That's what so great about being a bandwagon jumper!
I've never been to a Redskins store but I have three jerseys of Redskisn HOF players. How many Ratbirds are in the HOF? Oh yeah one. Great history they have.
No one is forced to buy a jersey anyway. The Ravens have made some pretty bad free agent moves themselves.
I've never been to a Redskins store but I have three jerseys of Redskisn HOF players. How many Ratbirds are in the HOF? Oh yeah one. Great history they have.
No one is forced to buy a jersey anyway. The Ravens have made some pretty bad free agent moves themselves.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
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Date: September 25, 2009 11:51PM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I've been a fan all my life as well. However, I'm
> not a tool, and Dan Snyder tools all the skins
> fans around as he pleases. The Redskins, in the
> end are just like any corporation and some people
> (such as myself) will not blindly pledge self
> allegiance.
>
> I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am
> that Snyder is only the majority owner of the
> skins. Over the years he has been selling off
> pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the
> business genius he thinks he, he will start
> shopping the team around while its still at peak
> value. Because I don't think the fan base has to
> many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.
I'm no tool, thanks. Mind if I ask your age?
All Snyder has to do win, the fanbase is huge. You don't think he knows this? Winning in the NFL isn't easy.
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> I've been a fan all my life as well. However, I'm
> not a tool, and Dan Snyder tools all the skins
> fans around as he pleases. The Redskins, in the
> end are just like any corporation and some people
> (such as myself) will not blindly pledge self
> allegiance.
>
> I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am
> that Snyder is only the majority owner of the
> skins. Over the years he has been selling off
> pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the
> business genius he thinks he, he will start
> shopping the team around while its still at peak
> value. Because I don't think the fan base has to
> many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.
I'm no tool, thanks. Mind if I ask your age?
All Snyder has to do win, the fanbase is huge. You don't think he knows this? Winning in the NFL isn't easy.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 26, 2009 09:24AM
More Complete, settle down. I'm not calling you a tool, thats not what I do. But the people who, buy season tickets year after year, despite the parking fees (not all teams charge for parking), the fee for the shuttle bus after you pay to park a mile a way, the $10 dollar beers, the FedEx express delivery fee for season tickets 6 months before the season begins, the newest latest greatest authentic jersey (See WTL's previous post) for hundreds of dollars, or the guy buys "obstructed view" seats. Being doesn't mean being a lemming.
I wont disclose my age but I was around to watch live the three of skins superbowls victories. None of us can speculate on how easy it is to win the NFL but you cant argue that some people just have it figured out. Bill Parecells seems to be a winner where ever he goes. He made the cowboys and dolphins relevant again, and turned around the hapless then NE and NYJ teams. Every coach the steelers have hired has won them a superbowl.
The DC metro area is huge, after you weed out all the people not from around here, the fan base is probably large at best, i think DC is market 5. And, the fan base was booing the team last week despite winning. I'm not going the way of WTL and be a ravens fan. I'll probably just stop watching most of the games and enjoy my sundays.
I wont disclose my age but I was around to watch live the three of skins superbowls victories. None of us can speculate on how easy it is to win the NFL but you cant argue that some people just have it figured out. Bill Parecells seems to be a winner where ever he goes. He made the cowboys and dolphins relevant again, and turned around the hapless then NE and NYJ teams. Every coach the steelers have hired has won them a superbowl.
The DC metro area is huge, after you weed out all the people not from around here, the fan base is probably large at best, i think DC is market 5. And, the fan base was booing the team last week despite winning. I'm not going the way of WTL and be a ravens fan. I'll probably just stop watching most of the games and enjoy my sundays.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 26, 2009 10:28AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at
> a Redskins' store?
I'm embarrassed to say I have the Brunnel jersey. I got it when he first joined the Skins and hopes were high.
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> So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at
> a Redskins' store?
I'm embarrassed to say I have the Brunnel jersey. I got it when he first joined the Skins and hopes were high.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 26, 2009 10:45AM
More Complete,
A good fan should feel obligated to critic the team they love, that's how they get better. If everyone was a mindless sheep like you, the owners would have no reason to spend the time and money to put a good system in place and learn to stay out of football operations.
In the Skin's case, money is not the issue. It all comes down to lack of knowledge about how to build a successful franchise that wins on a consistent basis (see Pittsburg, New England, Green Bay, etc..) Jack Kent Cooke had that and it wasn't until Snyder took over that everything went south. Why? Because he sees himself as the coach and director of player personnel.
I understand that you're a Skins fan, so am I. We both want them to be good and win games that they should, but we just go about it in different ways. It's okay to criticize them when they clearly have issues. Hell, the biggest homer out there (Sonny Jurgenson) even broke down last week and bashed the silly play calls.
A good fan should feel obligated to critic the team they love, that's how they get better. If everyone was a mindless sheep like you, the owners would have no reason to spend the time and money to put a good system in place and learn to stay out of football operations.
In the Skin's case, money is not the issue. It all comes down to lack of knowledge about how to build a successful franchise that wins on a consistent basis (see Pittsburg, New England, Green Bay, etc..) Jack Kent Cooke had that and it wasn't until Snyder took over that everything went south. Why? Because he sees himself as the coach and director of player personnel.
I understand that you're a Skins fan, so am I. We both want them to be good and win games that they should, but we just go about it in different ways. It's okay to criticize them when they clearly have issues. Hell, the biggest homer out there (Sonny Jurgenson) even broke down last week and bashed the silly play calls.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 26, 2009 03:27PM
The Skins won't be a success as long a Danny Boy uses too high a percentage of the salary cap to bring in "Big Names" like Fat Albert while ignoring depth on the O-Line. No team should base its success on one or two marquee names. Look how the Pats did when Brady went down. They went 11-5...because they had depth. The Skins have no depth (except with five fucking Running Backs!)
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:44AM
If these guys don't score at least 3 touchdowns today in a blowout after all the pressure there is no hope.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ex fan
()
Date: September 27, 2009 10:25AM
Damn it. Last week CBS announced that the Patriots game would be broadcast nationwide. It wasn't. This week same announcement, but no Pats game because the Redskins are again playing at the same time. Excuse me, the Redskins will be on a football field tying up everyone's time.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
dono
()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:15AM
Redskins will be losing or barely winning - what a thrill. Id rather watch the grass grow.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:27AM
"More Complete, settle down. I'm not calling you a tool, thats not what I do."
Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 27, 2009 01:41PM
So when did Dan Snyder's head explode? When Zorn tried to go for a TD on 4 and 1 and ran the same exact play that failed last week? Or when Zorn declined the penalty that would have resulted in a Lions' field goal only to result in a Lions' TD?
Zorn is obviously coaching scared.
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Zorn is obviously coaching scared.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:26PM
Did anybody read Michael Wilbons column this morning? If not, here it is. A pretty astute and damning synopsis of the ineptitude of the Redskins as an organization.
Plus they are currently losing 10-0!! LOL.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/26/AR2009092602136.html?sub=AR
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Plus they are currently losing 10-0!! LOL.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/26/AR2009092602136.html?sub=AR
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Foots
()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:28PM
This game is painful to watch!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
True Fan
()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:53PM
The momentum has SHIFTED.
Skins WILL win.
Skins WILL win.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Foots
()
Date: September 27, 2009 03:00PM
One lucky touchdown isn't a shift in momentum.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ex fan
()
Date: September 27, 2009 03:55PM
predictable.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:17PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I bet even UVA's football team could beat these Redskins!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I bet even UVA's football team could beat these Redskins!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:18PM
NICE LOSS!!! LMAO
Almost as good as when the Cowboys went 1-15 and beat the Skins.
Have a nice flight back Zorn. Hope there's a lot of ink in the printer for your resumes.
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Almost as good as when the Cowboys went 1-15 and beat the Skins.
Have a nice flight back Zorn. Hope there's a lot of ink in the printer for your resumes.
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ex fan
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:24PM
How can you reasonably blame Zorn? It's Cerato and the ownership.....karma perhaps. Plus, a team that it not cohesive.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:30PM
It pains me to say this as a fan and a supporter of Zorn, but he has got to go. exfan, how do you not blame the coach when you look at the roster the redskins have to the roster the lions have. I do not believe this loss has just happened. Big changes need to start tomorrow morning.
I wish Zorn great luck and if we keep him I will be behind the decision. He's a class act but I also realize he may be to nice and laid back to have success with this team.
I wish Zorn great luck and if we keep him I will be behind the decision. He's a class act but I also realize he may be to nice and laid back to have success with this team.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Lurker.
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:33PM
Just one question. Why am I still a Redskins fan?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:38PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> how do you not blame the coach when you look at the roster
> the redskins have to the roster the lions have.
Simple. When the golden boy players (*cough* *cough* Portis *cough*) have more pull with the owner than the coaches, there's no way in hell any coach could do his job effectively. Even Gibbs, the hero of the 1980s Redskins, couldn't get it done in his second go around.
This is the primary reason we won't see Cowher, Dungy, Shannahan, or any other big name coach here anytime in the near future. They know enough to stay away from Snyder's meddling ass, no matter how much money he's willing to throw at them.
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> how do you not blame the coach when you look at the roster
> the redskins have to the roster the lions have.
Simple. When the golden boy players (*cough* *cough* Portis *cough*) have more pull with the owner than the coaches, there's no way in hell any coach could do his job effectively. Even Gibbs, the hero of the 1980s Redskins, couldn't get it done in his second go around.
This is the primary reason we won't see Cowher, Dungy, Shannahan, or any other big name coach here anytime in the near future. They know enough to stay away from Snyder's meddling ass, no matter how much money he's willing to throw at them.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Eastsider
()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:43PM
If Snyder fires Zorn mid-season I will renounce the Redskins and not watch another game until the Snyder era is over.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Redskins Homer
()
Date: September 27, 2009 05:30PM
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:42PM
The real problem is with Snyder. Snyder has managed to make every coach who comes in here look bad. You can't blame Zorn for having the same record as Joe Gibbs and Marty Schottenheimer.
That said, Zorn's two calls early in the game probably blew any chance the Skins had to win. You know the saying, "Pride comes before the fall." Zorn's decision to go for a TD on 4 and 1 and the stupid decision to accept a penalty that kept the Lions' first drive alive resulted in a 7-0 score that probably would have been 3-3 and given the Skins the margin of victory. However, I think the reason Zorn made those calls was because of the pressure he's been getting from Danny Boy to score in the Red Zone. Yes, score in the Red Zone...on Third Down!
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That said, Zorn's two calls early in the game probably blew any chance the Skins had to win. You know the saying, "Pride comes before the fall." Zorn's decision to go for a TD on 4 and 1 and the stupid decision to accept a penalty that kept the Lions' first drive alive resulted in a 7-0 score that probably would have been 3-3 and given the Skins the margin of victory. However, I think the reason Zorn made those calls was because of the pressure he's been getting from Danny Boy to score in the Red Zone. Yes, score in the Red Zone...on Third Down!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
True Fan
()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:44PM
Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it was a simple mathematical probability that they had to win at some point. The Skins were essentially up against a runaway freight train, statistically speaking.
On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.
I know the negative nellies are going to have a field day, but things are looking UP.
On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.
I know the negative nellies are going to have a field day, but things are looking UP.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:49PM
yea looking up at the rest of the NFC East from the bottom of the standings.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:53PM
I can't help but question the last play. Why not put it in the end zone, it was the last play?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:57PM
Zorn is a nice guy and that's why he fails. This team lacks discipline and a basic understanding of the fundamentals.
When you look at the Lions roster, only 2 players are recognizable, Stafford and Johnson. The Skins have several pro bowlers and millionaires on the team and they still can't beat them. That can only come down to coaching and play calling/designing.
When you look at the Lions roster, only 2 players are recognizable, Stafford and Johnson. The Skins have several pro bowlers and millionaires on the team and they still can't beat them. That can only come down to coaching and play calling/designing.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 27, 2009 07:01PM
True Fan Wrote:
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
> On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points
> than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.
>
> I know the negative nellies are going to have a
> field day, but things are looking UP.
There are no players from the other team in the end zone. The other team will never reach the end zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other team's players are committing suicide in their locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and is driving the other team's defense before it! We are destined for a Super Bowl victory!
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
> On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points
> than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.
>
> I know the negative nellies are going to have a
> field day, but things are looking UP.
There are no players from the other team in the end zone. The other team will never reach the end zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other team's players are committing suicide in their locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and is driving the other team's defense before it! We are destined for a Super Bowl victory!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 27, 2009 07:03PM
Mr Captcha Wrote:
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> There are no players from the other team in the
> end zone. The other team will never reach the end
> zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other
> team's players are committing suicide in their
> locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and
> is driving the other team's defense before it! We
> are destined for a Super Bowl victory!
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> There are no players from the other team in the
> end zone. The other team will never reach the end
> zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other
> team's players are committing suicide in their
> locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and
> is driving the other team's defense before it! We
> are destined for a Super Bowl victory!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
-,SBS,-
()
Date: September 27, 2009 08:55PM
True Fan Wrote:
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
Statistically speaking, the odds of Detroit winning or losing TODAY had nothing to do with their losing streak.
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
Statistically speaking, the odds of Detroit winning or losing TODAY had nothing to do with their losing streak.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: September 27, 2009 08:55PM
Caught this interview clip on WTOP on my way back from Philly tonite.
John Riggins is fucking great, lol.
Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website. If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
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John Riggins is fucking great, lol.
Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website. If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:17PM
Guess we won't be hearing Riggo anytime soon on ESPN 980, huh?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:32PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Guess we won't be hearing Riggo anytime soon on
> ESPN 980, huh?
We were laughing so hard I thought I might have to pull over.
Riggins has balls, I think it's great.
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> Guess we won't be hearing Riggo anytime soon on
> ESPN 980, huh?
We were laughing so hard I thought I might have to pull over.
Riggins has balls, I think it's great.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:34PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> I can't help but question the last play. Why not
> put it in the end zone, it was the last play?
I have a guess. Zorn figured it would fail regardless. He wanted to protect Campbell's QB rating because Zorn was a QB himself.
Look at it from Zorn's perspective. His top receiver from his playing days is in the Hall of Fame. He is not. If you look at Zorn's stats, it's because he threw so many picks.
I think he is being overly fatherly to Campbell in terms of not throwing picks, so that's why you didn't get the shot into the end zone.
In contrast, did you see the highlights form the Vikings/49ers game? Favre threw a TD with 10 seconds left by hitting a receiver in the back of the End Zone.
Similar circumstances. Different outcome.
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> I can't help but question the last play. Why not
> put it in the end zone, it was the last play?
I have a guess. Zorn figured it would fail regardless. He wanted to protect Campbell's QB rating because Zorn was a QB himself.
Look at it from Zorn's perspective. His top receiver from his playing days is in the Hall of Fame. He is not. If you look at Zorn's stats, it's because he threw so many picks.
I think he is being overly fatherly to Campbell in terms of not throwing picks, so that's why you didn't get the shot into the end zone.
In contrast, did you see the highlights form the Vikings/49ers game? Favre threw a TD with 10 seconds left by hitting a receiver in the back of the End Zone.
Similar circumstances. Different outcome.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:36PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Caught this interview clip on WTOP on my way back
> from Philly tonite.
>
> John Riggins is fucking great, lol.
>
> Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but
> you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website.
> If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right
> out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...
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> Caught this interview clip on WTOP on my way back
> from Philly tonite.
>
> John Riggins is fucking great, lol.
>
> Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but
> you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website.
> If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right
> out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:38PM
News flash the Redskins are an expansion team!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:38PM
Mr Captcha Wrote:
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>
> > If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes
> right
> > out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
>
> Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...
Riggo is right. It doesn't matter who the Coach is or who the QB is. The results will be the same. Snyder creates a culture of failure at the team. Period.
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>
> > If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes
> right
> > out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
>
> Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...
Riggo is right. It doesn't matter who the Coach is or who the QB is. The results will be the same. Snyder creates a culture of failure at the team. Period.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:31PM
As sung by Vinne Cerrato.
Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow
Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow
'Tis I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.
And if you come, when all the flowers are dying
And I am dead, as dead I well may be
You'll come and find the place where I am lying
And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me.
And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me
And all my dreams will warm and sweeter be
If you'll not fail to tell me that you love me
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.
Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow
Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow
'Tis I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.
And if you come, when all the flowers are dying
And I am dead, as dead I well may be
You'll come and find the place where I am lying
And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me.
And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me
And all my dreams will warm and sweeter be
If you'll not fail to tell me that you love me
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 28, 2009 12:06AM
Does anyone else feel like this is a low point in Skins history? Even when they went 0-15 I didn't feel this depressed and I can't figure out why.
It may be that they've been mediocre for so long and this season is just more of the same or it may be that I know in my heart that Jason Campbell will never amount to more than a 2nd or 3rd string backup QB. It could also be that Snyder has built an impenetrable dome of failure around the Skins and that his coke slut is out of his depth.
After the game, I was inundated with calls from friends and family asking how it felt to be the laughing stock of the NFL. It seems like they've lost all credibility.
What I know for sure is I'm at a low point as a Skins fan. Are you?
It may be that they've been mediocre for so long and this season is just more of the same or it may be that I know in my heart that Jason Campbell will never amount to more than a 2nd or 3rd string backup QB. It could also be that Snyder has built an impenetrable dome of failure around the Skins and that his coke slut is out of his depth.
After the game, I was inundated with calls from friends and family asking how it felt to be the laughing stock of the NFL. It seems like they've lost all credibility.
What I know for sure is I'm at a low point as a Skins fan. Are you?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 28, 2009 07:49AM
The good news we don't have watch little spoiled Danny boy (aka Tom Thumb) jump and down for joy after a victory. I can't stand that guy so much, I almost relish the losses as much the wins.
Could local NFL team stink any worse
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: September 28, 2009 07:54AM
Snider sucks. FedEx Field sucks. As long as Snider's the owner, the local NFL team will suck. But until folks stop going to games, stop buying their jerseys, stop watching on tv, Snider will continue to suck.
They lost to Detroit. Only the worst franchise in the NFL for the last 50 years.
Detroit. Seriously, Detroit. Lowly, pathetic Detroit.
They lost to a team that won 0 games last year. 0-19 Detroit.
Could it get any worse?
Yeah, they could lose to Virginia or Maryland.
They lost to Detroit. Only the worst franchise in the NFL for the last 50 years.
Detroit. Seriously, Detroit. Lowly, pathetic Detroit.
They lost to a team that won 0 games last year. 0-19 Detroit.
Could it get any worse?
Yeah, they could lose to Virginia or Maryland.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 08:15AM
Zorn's expression tells it all. He has had that expression since pre-season. I actually feel bad for the guy. He was doomed to fail from the start and is just now realizing it.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
donodono
()
Date: September 28, 2009 08:37AM
Low point - I would say I care less now then ever and I do not remember the team as a whole being as uninteresting before. The offense cannot execute more than a handful of plays per game.
Looked like the play calling and design is terrible. Usually the defense is okay but yesterday they looked bad. We always choke on the big plays on O and D.
Looked like the play calling and design is terrible. Usually the defense is okay but yesterday they looked bad. We always choke on the big plays on O and D.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 09:30AM
donodono Wrote:
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> Looked like the play calling and design is
> terrible. Usually the defense is okay but
> yesterday they looked bad. We always choke on the
> big plays on O and D.
I've always thought the D was over-rated. They always get props for their play in the Red Zone but that's because the opponent spends so damn much time in the Skins' Red Zone. They are always bad at pressure. They can't stop the run and their secondary can't break up passes or make interceptions. Their claim to fame is tackling a receiver after an eight-yard reception. To give you an idea of how fucked up the D's mindset is, I saw one of the linebackers celebrating after he took down the Lions RB who had just run eight yards. Celebrate when you actually do something worth celebrating.
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>
> Looked like the play calling and design is
> terrible. Usually the defense is okay but
> yesterday they looked bad. We always choke on the
> big plays on O and D.
I've always thought the D was over-rated. They always get props for their play in the Red Zone but that's because the opponent spends so damn much time in the Skins' Red Zone. They are always bad at pressure. They can't stop the run and their secondary can't break up passes or make interceptions. Their claim to fame is tackling a receiver after an eight-yard reception. To give you an idea of how fucked up the D's mindset is, I saw one of the linebackers celebrating after he took down the Lions RB who had just run eight yards. Celebrate when you actually do something worth celebrating.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 28, 2009 09:43AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> More Complete... If everyone was a mindless sheep like you, ...
>
Come on man. Just because I was optimistic doesn't mean I'm mindless. With the talent the team has, they SHOULD be better.
Numbers Wrote:
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> Does anyone else feel like this is a low point in
> Skins history? Even when they went 0-15 I didn't
> feel this depressed and I can't figure out why.
> >
> After the game, I was inundated with calls from
> friends and family asking how it felt to be the
> laughing stock of the NFL. It seems like they've
> lost all credibility.
>
> What I know for sure is I'm at a low point as a
> Skins fan. Are you?
I'm just numb at this point.
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> More Complete... If everyone was a mindless sheep like you, ...
>
Come on man. Just because I was optimistic doesn't mean I'm mindless. With the talent the team has, they SHOULD be better.
Numbers Wrote:
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> Does anyone else feel like this is a low point in
> Skins history? Even when they went 0-15 I didn't
> feel this depressed and I can't figure out why.
> >
> After the game, I was inundated with calls from
> friends and family asking how it felt to be the
> laughing stock of the NFL. It seems like they've
> lost all credibility.
>
> What I know for sure is I'm at a low point as a
> Skins fan. Are you?
I'm just numb at this point.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 28, 2009 09:44AM
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> Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
Way to be a jerk. Care to tell us who your team is? Why are you in this tread?
> Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
Way to be a jerk. Care to tell us who your team is? Why are you in this tread?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 28, 2009 10:02AM
More Complete Wrote:
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>
> Come on man. Just because I was optimistic doesn't
> mean I'm mindless. With the talent the team has,
> they SHOULD be better.
>
>
What talent???
Santana Moss would be a #2 or #3 on any other team.
Portis is done.
The only top caliber player is Cooley, and they would rather throw to Devin Thomas or Mike Sellers in the End Zone than Cooley.
London Fletcher has heart, but I don't see him blowing through the other team's O-Line. Fat Albert is already looking like a bust. The secondary is too damn afraid to try to break up plays.
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>
> Come on man. Just because I was optimistic doesn't
> mean I'm mindless. With the talent the team has,
> they SHOULD be better.
>
>
What talent???
Santana Moss would be a #2 or #3 on any other team.
Portis is done.
The only top caliber player is Cooley, and they would rather throw to Devin Thomas or Mike Sellers in the End Zone than Cooley.
London Fletcher has heart, but I don't see him blowing through the other team's O-Line. Fat Albert is already looking like a bust. The secondary is too damn afraid to try to break up plays.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
dapjdj
()
Date: September 28, 2009 10:32AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> What talent???
>
> Fat Albert is already looking like a bust...
And on NBC's "Football Night America" Rodney Harrison said "why are they sticking with Jason Campbell? He's a backup quarterback at best...".
At this point the only hope is that Danny Synder's other dismally-run businesses tank at one time so he has to sell the Redskins.
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> What talent???
>
> Fat Albert is already looking like a bust...
And on NBC's "Football Night America" Rodney Harrison said "why are they sticking with Jason Campbell? He's a backup quarterback at best...".
At this point the only hope is that Danny Synder's other dismally-run businesses tank at one time so he has to sell the Redskins.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:01AM
I wonder what the halftime conversation in the locker room was. It was probably "we're doing some things right but we need to do some of these other things" instead of what it should have been, "you guys are going to lose to the fucking LIONS? Do you guys REALLY suck THAT bad?! Get out there and tear them to shreds or you are going to be the laughing stock at home!"
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:10AM
pgens Wrote:
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> I wonder what the halftime conversation in the
> locker room was. It was probably "we're doing
> some things right but we need to do some of these
> other things" instead of what it should have been,
> "you guys are going to lose to the fucking LIONS?
> Do you guys REALLY suck THAT bad?! Get out there
> and tear them to shreds or you are going to be the
> laughing stock at home!"
+1
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> I wonder what the halftime conversation in the
> locker room was. It was probably "we're doing
> some things right but we need to do some of these
> other things" instead of what it should have been,
> "you guys are going to lose to the fucking LIONS?
> Do you guys REALLY suck THAT bad?! Get out there
> and tear them to shreds or you are going to be the
> laughing stock at home!"
+1
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
harrison is right
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:13AM
Harrison is correct. Campbell likely isn't a 1st string NFL QB.
But the fact that he is shows how Snyder and Cerrato so badly muck up the works.
They this summer advertised all over the place how badly they wanted Mark Sanchez. OK, looks like they knew the obvious - Sanchez appears to be very, very good.
But there was no consideration as to what would happen if they failed. Once having gone public, they should have closed the deal with Sanchez or another good to great QB, because to fail to do so meant more pressure and organizational strife with respect to an already struggling QB. Campbell is playing like someone who won't make a mistake - of course, there's no production either.
And the duo can't close on high profile players because, well, they simply are not good employers who players like to play for. They can close on a few defensive players who simply want the money (Haynesworth, Hall), but that doesn't make for a winning team. And they don't do well in the draft, trading away choices for free agents and otherwise not treating the drafted players like a good long term relationship is in the offing.
This team will not turn around until Snyder sells it. Look forward to another decade of mediocrity.
But the fact that he is shows how Snyder and Cerrato so badly muck up the works.
They this summer advertised all over the place how badly they wanted Mark Sanchez. OK, looks like they knew the obvious - Sanchez appears to be very, very good.
But there was no consideration as to what would happen if they failed. Once having gone public, they should have closed the deal with Sanchez or another good to great QB, because to fail to do so meant more pressure and organizational strife with respect to an already struggling QB. Campbell is playing like someone who won't make a mistake - of course, there's no production either.
And the duo can't close on high profile players because, well, they simply are not good employers who players like to play for. They can close on a few defensive players who simply want the money (Haynesworth, Hall), but that doesn't make for a winning team. And they don't do well in the draft, trading away choices for free agents and otherwise not treating the drafted players like a good long term relationship is in the offing.
This team will not turn around until Snyder sells it. Look forward to another decade of mediocrity.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
qwerty
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:20AM
Riggins said it best on WTOP this morning: everything is about the glorification of the owner, not the team, and that's not going to change. That's just how Danny's wrapped. Why was Tom Cruise on the field chatting with the head coach before the game????? To make Danny look important and happin. And did you see the shot of the owners box during the game...everyone in the box was frozen like statues!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Dan Snyder
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:48AM
Yesssssssssiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 28, 2009 11:52AM
More Complete Wrote:
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> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
>
> Way to be a jerk. Care to tell us who your team
> is? Why are you in this tread?
It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants to shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape or form. Run along now sonny.
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> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.
>
> Way to be a jerk. Care to tell us who your team
> is? Why are you in this tread?
It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants to shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape or form. Run along now sonny.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 28, 2009 12:46PM
496 Wrote:
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> It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants to
> shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape or
> form.
So who's the real tool? ;-)
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> It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants to
> shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape or
> form.
So who's the real tool? ;-)
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
496
()
Date: September 28, 2009 01:19PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants
> to
> > shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape
> or
> > form.
>
> So who's the real tool? ;-)
Why, Danny Snyder of course.....
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It's my job. I have been hired by the NY Giants
> to
> > shred the Washington Redskins in any way, shape
> or
> > form.
>
> So who's the real tool? ;-)
Why, Danny Snyder of course.....
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: September 29, 2009 08:42AM
Which Redskin does Steve Czaban refer to as "megatron" ??
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
KNEELOUT2009
()
Date: September 29, 2009 08:51AM
TAKE A KNEE AND GET A FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK IN 2010.
PLEASE JUST KNEEL OUT THE 2009 SEASON.
Attachments:
PLEASE JUST KNEEL OUT THE 2009 SEASON.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 08:56AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> Which Redskin does Steve Czaban refer to as
> "megatron" ??
I'll take a wild guess and say Mike Sellers?
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> Which Redskin does Steve Czaban refer to as
> "megatron" ??
I'll take a wild guess and say Mike Sellers?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: September 29, 2009 09:26AM
Numbers Wrote:
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which Redskin does Steve Czaban refer to as
> > "megatron" ??
>
>
> I'll take a wild guess and say Mike Sellers?
Megatron is Calvin Johnson from the Lions.
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Which Redskin does Steve Czaban refer to as
> > "megatron" ??
>
>
> I'll take a wild guess and say Mike Sellers?
Megatron is Calvin Johnson from the Lions.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 09:41AM
I heard a clip today of Jim Zorn saying that you should have respect for men and shouldn't have to yell at them to motivate them.
Tell that to Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher, George Halas, etc.
Or, for that matter, tell that to General George S. Patton, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt or any drill sergeant in the military.
The fact is sometimes you have to yell. Especially when people aren't getting the message any other way. I'm not into this concept of yelling about everything. But a strategic ass-reaming is a great motivator because it gives people incentive to do better so they don't get their ass reamed again. When you are dealing with people sitting on $40 million guaranteed deals, sometimes that's the ONLY tool you have to motivate them.
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Tell that to Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher, George Halas, etc.
Or, for that matter, tell that to General George S. Patton, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt or any drill sergeant in the military.
The fact is sometimes you have to yell. Especially when people aren't getting the message any other way. I'm not into this concept of yelling about everything. But a strategic ass-reaming is a great motivator because it gives people incentive to do better so they don't get their ass reamed again. When you are dealing with people sitting on $40 million guaranteed deals, sometimes that's the ONLY tool you have to motivate them.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:07PM
Even Joe Gibbs had the famous chair throwing incident.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:15PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Even Joe Gibbs had the famous chair throwing
> incident.
You can't tell me that guys like Dungy haven't had a "come to Jesus" moment in the locker room (pun intended). Just because you have a reputation as a "nice guy," doesn't mean you don't kick someone in the ass when they need it.
Look at Dick Vermeil. Everyone loves the guy. But he also had the reputation of being an SOB when you crossed him. Zorn needs to find his inner SOB and wake some of these people up.
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> Even Joe Gibbs had the famous chair throwing
> incident.
You can't tell me that guys like Dungy haven't had a "come to Jesus" moment in the locker room (pun intended). Just because you have a reputation as a "nice guy," doesn't mean you don't kick someone in the ass when they need it.
Look at Dick Vermeil. Everyone loves the guy. But he also had the reputation of being an SOB when you crossed him. Zorn needs to find his inner SOB and wake some of these people up.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: September 29, 2009 12:19PM
Even if the coach (Zorn) isn't capable of throwing a tizzy fit, one of the other coaches should.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
L. Ron Hubbard
()
Date: September 29, 2009 01:27PM
That's because they are all androids. I have not programmed them to show any emotion.
qwerty Wrote:
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> Riggins said it best on WTOP this morning:
> everything is about the glorification of the
> owner, not the team, and that's not going to
> change. That's just how Danny's wrapped. Why was
> Tom Cruise on the field chatting with the head
> coach before the game????? To make Danny look
> important and happin. And did you see the shot of
> the owners box during the game...everyone in the
> box was frozen like statues!
qwerty Wrote:
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> Riggins said it best on WTOP this morning:
> everything is about the glorification of the
> owner, not the team, and that's not going to
> change. That's just how Danny's wrapped. Why was
> Tom Cruise on the field chatting with the head
> coach before the game????? To make Danny look
> important and happin. And did you see the shot of
> the owners box during the game...everyone in the
> box was frozen like statues!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 04, 2009 05:20PM
Undefeated at home. Brown bags, boos and all.
Ugly win. Every winless team thinks they can beat the skins at this point.
Ugly win. Every winless team thinks they can beat the skins at this point.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 04, 2009 06:20PM
More Complete Wrote:
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> Undefeated at home. Brown bags, boos and all.
>
> Ugly win. Every winless team thinks they can beat
> the skins at this point.
The Redskins didn't win that game. The Bucs lost it by blowing two gimme field goals. I assume that kicker won't be playing for them next week.
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> Undefeated at home. Brown bags, boos and all.
>
> Ugly win. Every winless team thinks they can beat
> the skins at this point.
The Redskins didn't win that game. The Bucs lost it by blowing two gimme field goals. I assume that kicker won't be playing for them next week.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: October 04, 2009 06:28PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The Redskins didn't win that game.
No. You are wrong. The Redskins did in fact win the game. Sorry, the truth hurts.
if, but, if, only, but... repeat
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> The Redskins didn't win that game.
No. You are wrong. The Redskins did in fact win the game. Sorry, the truth hurts.
if, but, if, only, but... repeat
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 04, 2009 06:37PM
Battle of the woeful QBs.
The good news is there are worse QB's than Campbell. Jamarcus Russell is quite possibly the worst QB to ever play in the NFL and makes Campbell look like Peyton Manning.
The Bucs QB is dreadful too. For the life of me, I can't figure out why the Buc's coach didn't play Leftwich. Thank goodness he didn't.
The good news is there are worse QB's than Campbell. Jamarcus Russell is quite possibly the worst QB to ever play in the NFL and makes Campbell look like Peyton Manning.
The Bucs QB is dreadful too. For the life of me, I can't figure out why the Buc's coach didn't play Leftwich. Thank goodness he didn't.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 04, 2009 08:50PM
Yes sir redskins back at .500. Same record as the COwgirls. and hey WTL ur dickriding team lost today.
skins are still not playing well on offense at all and they are 2-2. when they start clicking we will be in serious business.
skins are still not playing well on offense at all and they are 2-2. when they start clicking we will be in serious business.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Steve K
()
Date: October 04, 2009 10:30PM
Nah haters, ugly as it may have been the Skins did win that game.
On the two missed field goals the defense held Tampa fairly far out and the defense held them to field goal attempts throughout after the terrible fumble that led to a touchdown in the beginning. Being down 10-0 they really could have folded it's good to get the win at this point 2-2 is better than 1-3.
As for the Bucs QB he played much better than Leftwich last week and being his first ever start there were a lot of things I liked about him. He just got to dependent on the run in the second half, part being that terrible Tampa Bay offense.
The final thing I got to say is we got to score damn it. The Lions have given up 48, 48, 35 and we got only 14 points on them. I didn't look this up, so don't quote me on it, but I'm pretty sure we're the only team not to score 20 points in a game this year.
On the two missed field goals the defense held Tampa fairly far out and the defense held them to field goal attempts throughout after the terrible fumble that led to a touchdown in the beginning. Being down 10-0 they really could have folded it's good to get the win at this point 2-2 is better than 1-3.
As for the Bucs QB he played much better than Leftwich last week and being his first ever start there were a lot of things I liked about him. He just got to dependent on the run in the second half, part being that terrible Tampa Bay offense.
The final thing I got to say is we got to score damn it. The Lions have given up 48, 48, 35 and we got only 14 points on them. I didn't look this up, so don't quote me on it, but I'm pretty sure we're the only team not to score 20 points in a game this year.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 04, 2009 11:05PM
I've predicted the Skins would go 5-11, so odds are they would win some of their games. However, I don't think they will against the Panthers and they may have a problem with KC.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 05, 2009 12:24AM
i honestly think they will win both vs carolina and vs KC.
but still the redskins are mediocre. Nothing has changed here in DC with Dan still running the show.
Like i said though. the skins especially in the 1st half played like SHIT, and still found a way to win. If they can pick it up in practice and come out of the gates next sunday ready to play, they can be a good team , i know it..
Go skins.
but still the redskins are mediocre. Nothing has changed here in DC with Dan still running the show.
Like i said though. the skins especially in the 1st half played like SHIT, and still found a way to win. If they can pick it up in practice and come out of the gates next sunday ready to play, they can be a good team , i know it..
Go skins.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: October 05, 2009 08:05AM
I'm skins fan but the players actually think they actaully played a good game. This team is not going to wake up until someone puts the beat down on them. The only thing the skins will have going for them this year is being a spoiler for one of our divisional rival.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 05, 2009 09:26AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I'm skins fan but the players actually think they
> actaully played a good game. This team is not
> going to wake up until someone puts the beat down
> on them. The only thing the skins will have going
> for them this year is being a spoiler for one of
> our divisional rival.
They played okay in the second half. The problem is that the Bucs are a terrible team. A win is a win, I guess. But the Bucs were two missed field goals away from winning. It's pure luck that the Skins won this time, in my opinion.
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> I'm skins fan but the players actually think they
> actaully played a good game. This team is not
> going to wake up until someone puts the beat down
> on them. The only thing the skins will have going
> for them this year is being a spoiler for one of
> our divisional rival.
They played okay in the second half. The problem is that the Bucs are a terrible team. A win is a win, I guess. But the Bucs were two missed field goals away from winning. It's pure luck that the Skins won this time, in my opinion.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Registered Voter
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Date: October 11, 2009 12:22PM
Ouch - on the NFL pregame show on FOX, Jimmy Johnson nailed the Redskins. Said they need to basically toss out the entire team philosophy, they had too many overpriced and "near end of career" players, and no way that Zorn could turn the team around.
You know it's bad when they single out your team on the show and do a whole segment on them.
He was spot on.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
You know it's bad when they single out your team on the show and do a whole segment on them.
He was spot on.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: October 11, 2009 12:47PM
Panthers are about to lay a beat down.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Czar
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Date: October 11, 2009 02:15PM
TefD187 Wrote:
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> Panthers are about to lay a beat down.
haterrrrrrrrrrr skins r winning!
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> Panthers are about to lay a beat down.
haterrrrrrrrrrr skins r winning!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 11, 2009 04:05PM
Sadly, they failed yet again.
The defense played well again all things considered. The offense just patently sucks.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
The defense played well again all things considered. The offense just patently sucks.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
dono
()
Date: October 11, 2009 04:13PM
I love having my Sundays again. No way I bother watching the loser Skins. I saw them score in the first 2 min. and didnt even think twice about turning the game off and going out with the family to make a scarecrow at Colvin Mill.
Turns out I come home to catch the last 10 min. and see the hapless Skins snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again; from a team that was 0-4 this season. That following a loss to Detroit that had not won in 18 games.
The Skins have one of the easiest schedules in football and they are losing to the worst teams. Basically they are a suck team (if you could call them a team).
They will always find a way to lose.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2009 04:13PM by dono.
Turns out I come home to catch the last 10 min. and see the hapless Skins snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again; from a team that was 0-4 this season. That following a loss to Detroit that had not won in 18 games.
The Skins have one of the easiest schedules in football and they are losing to the worst teams. Basically they are a suck team (if you could call them a team).
They will always find a way to lose.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2009 04:13PM by dono.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 11, 2009 04:55PM
Czar Wrote:
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> TefD187 Wrote:
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> > Panthers are about to lay a beat down.
>
>
> haterrrrrrrrrrr skins r winning!
Ha! They lost. As I predicted, in a squeeker.
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> > Panthers are about to lay a beat down.
>
>
> haterrrrrrrrrrr skins r winning!
Ha! They lost. As I predicted, in a squeeker.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 04:57PM
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> Sadly, they failed yet again.
>
> The defense played well again all things
> considered. The offense just patently sucks.
I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the punt was one of the worst calls I have seen since the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El by one of the Panthers. There should have been a penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
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> Sadly, they failed yet again.
>
> The defense played well again all things
> considered. The offense just patently sucks.
I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the punt was one of the worst calls I have seen since the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El by one of the Panthers. There should have been a penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
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Date: October 11, 2009 05:46PM
Somebody get on the phone to Jim Zorn and tell him he's not in Vegas playing blackjack. It's OK to score more than 21 points.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 11, 2009 06:22PM
The Chiefs nearly beat the Cowboys today. Next game will be just as fun.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Czar
()
Date: October 11, 2009 06:29PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sadly, they failed yet again.
> >
> > The defense played well again all things
> > considered. The offense just patently sucks.
>
>
> I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the
> punt was one of the worst calls I have seen since
> the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers
> last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El by
> one of the Panthers. There should have been a
> penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs, ands
> or buts about it.
agreed that pissed me off. The refs looked lost today. like the fumble at the endzone by the panthers. and then that punt... terrible.
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sadly, they failed yet again.
> >
> > The defense played well again all things
> > considered. The offense just patently sucks.
>
>
> I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the
> punt was one of the worst calls I have seen since
> the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers
> last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El by
> one of the Panthers. There should have been a
> penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs, ands
> or buts about it.
agreed that pissed me off. The refs looked lost today. like the fumble at the endzone by the panthers. and then that punt... terrible.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 06:51PM
Czar Wrote:
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> >
> > I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the
> > punt was one of the worst calls I have seen
> since
> > the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers
> > last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El
> by
> > one of the Panthers. There should have been a
> > penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs,
> ands
> > or buts about it.
>
>
> agreed that pissed me off. The refs looked lost
> today. like the fumble at the endzone by the
> panthers. and then that punt... terrible.
I would be shocked if the NFL didn't take a look at that and conclude that the officials screwed up. And I don't get Zorn agreeing to a review of it "hitting a Washington Redskin first." That wasn't the issue at all. The issue was that Randle El wasn't given the opportunity to field the kcik because the Panthers pushed one of his own teammates into him. Where the hell were the guys upstairs to tell him that? And given that, Zorn should have withdrawn the challenge if the play wasn't reviewable for that.
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> >
> > I'll give the Skins this. That turnover on the
> > punt was one of the worst calls I have seen
> since
> > the non-fumble between the Broncos and Chargers
> > last year. Westbrook was pushed into Randel El
> by
> > one of the Panthers. There should have been a
> > penalty called against the Panthers. No ifs,
> ands
> > or buts about it.
>
>
> agreed that pissed me off. The refs looked lost
> today. like the fumble at the endzone by the
> panthers. and then that punt... terrible.
I would be shocked if the NFL didn't take a look at that and conclude that the officials screwed up. And I don't get Zorn agreeing to a review of it "hitting a Washington Redskin first." That wasn't the issue at all. The issue was that Randle El wasn't given the opportunity to field the kcik because the Panthers pushed one of his own teammates into him. Where the hell were the guys upstairs to tell him that? And given that, Zorn should have withdrawn the challenge if the play wasn't reviewable for that.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
TefD187
()
Date: October 11, 2009 06:53PM
my motherfucking chiefs did work today, and yea we are 0-5 and we know we suck, we are a work in progress. but I am going out on a limb here and guaranteeing a chefs victory. I mean given your track record of beating winless teams, it is a pretty safe bet. get those burgundy and gold buttholes ready skins fans. I cant wait to see what happens after we smoke you goons next week.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 07:03PM
TefD187 Wrote:
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> my motherfucking chiefs did work today, and yea we
> are 0-5 and we know we suck, we are a work in
> progress. but I am going out on a limb here and
> guaranteeing a chefs victory. I mean given your
> track record of beating winless teams, it is a
> pretty safe bet. get those burgundy and gold
> buttholes ready skins fans. I cant wait to see
> what happens after we smoke you goons next week.
I think the Chiefs may win. Their defense has looked pretty decent since Day 1 and it appears from the way they played today that the offense is catching up.
The Skins barely beat two of the worst teams in the NFL. The Bucs and Rams are trainwreck teams. The Lions, while not great, are vastly improved over last year. And the Panthers have not reason not to be a good team besides a bad start to the season from Jake Delhomme.
I think the Chiefs are far superior to the Rams and the Bucs, despite their record. I still think the Skins could still win, but it is time for the homers to realize that the Skins are in the Top 5 of worst NFL teams this season (ahead of the Rams, Bucs, Raiders and Browns).
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> my motherfucking chiefs did work today, and yea we
> are 0-5 and we know we suck, we are a work in
> progress. but I am going out on a limb here and
> guaranteeing a chefs victory. I mean given your
> track record of beating winless teams, it is a
> pretty safe bet. get those burgundy and gold
> buttholes ready skins fans. I cant wait to see
> what happens after we smoke you goons next week.
I think the Chiefs may win. Their defense has looked pretty decent since Day 1 and it appears from the way they played today that the offense is catching up.
The Skins barely beat two of the worst teams in the NFL. The Bucs and Rams are trainwreck teams. The Lions, while not great, are vastly improved over last year. And the Panthers have not reason not to be a good team besides a bad start to the season from Jake Delhomme.
I think the Chiefs are far superior to the Rams and the Bucs, despite their record. I still think the Skins could still win, but it is time for the homers to realize that the Skins are in the Top 5 of worst NFL teams this season (ahead of the Rams, Bucs, Raiders and Browns).
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Redskins Homer
()
Date: October 11, 2009 07:06PM
Next week will be NFL Week 6 and EVERY team the Redskins will have played so far has been winless (Giants was in week 1 when everyone was 0-0)!!! That has to be some sort of record. I cannot recall that ever happening so deep into the season.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 11, 2009 07:51PM
So, the Skins are probably excited about scoring 2 TD's today and will tout that all week. However, one TD drive was from 1 yard away and the other from 13 yards away, so in total, they only had to go 14 yards for 14 points.
Other than that, the offense did NOTHING. As usual,Campbell was indecisive, boring and frightened and couldn't even get the ball to Cooley once.
This may have been their most pathetic game to date.
Other than that, the offense did NOTHING. As usual,Campbell was indecisive, boring and frightened and couldn't even get the ball to Cooley once.
This may have been their most pathetic game to date.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 07:51PM
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> Next week will be NFL Week 6 and EVERY team the
> Redskins will have played so far has been winless
> (Giants was in week 1 when everyone was 0-0)!!!
> That has to be some sort of record. I cannot
> recall that ever happening so deep into the
> season.
How many of those teams were winless after they played the Skins? 2 out of 5. Next week, it may be 2 out of 6.
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> Next week will be NFL Week 6 and EVERY team the
> Redskins will have played so far has been winless
> (Giants was in week 1 when everyone was 0-0)!!!
> That has to be some sort of record. I cannot
> recall that ever happening so deep into the
> season.
How many of those teams were winless after they played the Skins? 2 out of 5. Next week, it may be 2 out of 6.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
bolano
()
Date: October 11, 2009 07:52PM
Fire everyone, 30 years as a fan and i've never seen such a pathetic Redskins team. The coaches are terrible and the players don't have heart. Enough is enough. Snyder aint going no where, so make a damn mone already Dan.
Release every pussy on this team and have an open tryout, it cant get much worse.
Release every pussy on this team and have an open tryout, it cant get much worse.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 08:04PM
bolano Wrote:
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> Fire everyone, 30 years as a fan and i've never
> seen such a pathetic Redskins team. The coaches
> are terrible and the players don't have heart.
> Enough is enough. Snyder aint going no where, so
> make a damn mone already Dan.
>
> Release every pussy on this team and have an open
> tryout, it cant get much worse.
The problem isn't the players or the coaches. The problem is the owner. If Marty Schottenheimer and Joe Gibbs couldn't succeed here, no one can. If players like Brad Johnson, Ryan Clark and Stephen Davis can't make it to the Super Bowl here but can for other teams, the problem is the owner.
You say that Dan Snyder isn't going anywhere, and this is true. But he will NEVER change. He could hire a dream team with Peyton Manning, Randy Moss and Frank Gore and end up with the same offensive performance.
The fact is Snyder fosters an environment of failure. He undermines his coaches. He gets involved in personnel decisions he shouldn't get involved in. He hires people and then tries to do their jobs for them.
It will never change. That's why I am no longer a Redskins fan.
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> Fire everyone, 30 years as a fan and i've never
> seen such a pathetic Redskins team. The coaches
> are terrible and the players don't have heart.
> Enough is enough. Snyder aint going no where, so
> make a damn mone already Dan.
>
> Release every pussy on this team and have an open
> tryout, it cant get much worse.
The problem isn't the players or the coaches. The problem is the owner. If Marty Schottenheimer and Joe Gibbs couldn't succeed here, no one can. If players like Brad Johnson, Ryan Clark and Stephen Davis can't make it to the Super Bowl here but can for other teams, the problem is the owner.
You say that Dan Snyder isn't going anywhere, and this is true. But he will NEVER change. He could hire a dream team with Peyton Manning, Randy Moss and Frank Gore and end up with the same offensive performance.
The fact is Snyder fosters an environment of failure. He undermines his coaches. He gets involved in personnel decisions he shouldn't get involved in. He hires people and then tries to do their jobs for them.
It will never change. That's why I am no longer a Redskins fan.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 11, 2009 08:11PM
I hereby take back every bad thing I've ever said about Kyle Ortin. He's looked like Peyton Manning for the past 2 weeks.
I also re-double my condemnation of Jason Campbell. This offense will never go anywhere with him at the helm.
I also re-double my condemnation of Jason Campbell. This offense will never go anywhere with him at the helm.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 11, 2009 08:13PM
Dan Snyder is ruining my whole football experience on Sundays. Can't we all sign some petition or something and relieve him of command?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 11, 2009 08:15PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> I hereby take back every bad thing I've ever said
> about Kyle Ortin. He's looked like Peyton Manning
> for the past 2 weeks.
>
I always thought Kyle Orton was an underrated game manager. But you are right. He looks like a friggin' MVP in McDaniel's system.
> I also re-double my condemnation of Jason
> Campbell. This offense will never go anywhere with
> him at the helm.
While Campbell had his issues, he made the best of the opportunities presented when they got turnovers. The big problem was the defense in the second half. I swear they played prevent defense in the second half. WTF was Blache thinking?
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> I hereby take back every bad thing I've ever said
> about Kyle Ortin. He's looked like Peyton Manning
> for the past 2 weeks.
>
I always thought Kyle Orton was an underrated game manager. But you are right. He looks like a friggin' MVP in McDaniel's system.
> I also re-double my condemnation of Jason
> Campbell. This offense will never go anywhere with
> him at the helm.
While Campbell had his issues, he made the best of the opportunities presented when they got turnovers. The big problem was the defense in the second half. I swear they played prevent defense in the second half. WTF was Blache thinking?
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Fairfax Felix
()
Date: October 12, 2009 10:33AM
Please, please please. Don't keep rolling out those dusty old superbowl trophies that the 'skins won almost 20 years ago. It impresses and motivates no one.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: October 12, 2009 12:33PM
Isn't it about time to start predicting Zorn's firing?
I'll take October 28th. D-Day in Ashburn.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 12, 2009 12:51PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Isn't it about time to start predicting Zorn's
> firing?
>
> I'll take October 28th. D-Day in Ashburn.
He will be gone the Monday after they lose to the Chiefs. That will give the new head coach two whole weeks to prepare.
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> Isn't it about time to start predicting Zorn's
> firing?
>
> I'll take October 28th. D-Day in Ashburn.
He will be gone the Monday after they lose to the Chiefs. That will give the new head coach two whole weeks to prepare.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nostrodammit--UPDATE
()
Date: October 13, 2009 08:39PM
> 2010 nfl predictions****UPDATE****
>
> 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired====UPDATE--Talk has started
>
> 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired====UPDATE--Turned down Redskins job,,,TWICE!!!!
>
> 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired====UPDATE---Talk has started!!!!Add Bruce Allen (George Allen's SON)to the mix as GM
>
> 4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired---ADD Marty Schottenheimer as a longshot candidate
>
> 5**)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired+++CANCEL THIS ONE+++
>
> 6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired===UPDATE--"would like to coach on the East Coast",,,,
>
> 7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
>
> 8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
>
ADD Tampa Bay-EVERYONE FIRED / T. Dungee returns in some compacity
> ------------------
> **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
>
> 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher hired====UPDATE--Talk has started
>
> 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan hired====UPDATE--Turned down Redskins job,,,TWICE!!!!
>
> 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden hired====UPDATE---Talk has started!!!!Add Bruce Allen (George Allen's SON)to the mix as GM
>
> 4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired---ADD Marty Schottenheimer as a longshot candidate
>
> 5**)Minnesota-Childress fired/ T. Dungee hired+++CANCEL THIS ONE+++
>
> 6)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren hired===UPDATE--"would like to coach on the East Coast",,,,
>
> 7)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
>
> 8)Bills-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
>
ADD Tampa Bay-EVERYONE FIRED / T. Dungee returns in some compacity
> ------------------
> **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 13, 2009 08:50PM
Schottenheimer to Dallas seems like a longshot. Marty's already dealt with one meddling asshole of an owner. Why would he do this?
Tony Dungee is very friendly with the Colts still and I can't see him going back to a place that clearly didn't appreciate him.
Talk has started in Carolina? That's surprising even with their bad record this year.
Andy Reid is about to sign a contract extension with the Eagles, so you can forget about this one.
I would be shocked if Snyder brings in Chucky. Although if no one else wants the gig, it might be all he has left.
Tony Dungee is very friendly with the Colts still and I can't see him going back to a place that clearly didn't appreciate him.
Talk has started in Carolina? That's surprising even with their bad record this year.
Andy Reid is about to sign a contract extension with the Eagles, so you can forget about this one.
I would be shocked if Snyder brings in Chucky. Although if no one else wants the gig, it might be all he has left.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nostrodammit-The LOGIC
()
Date: October 13, 2009 09:19PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> Schottenheimer to Dallas seems like a longshot.
> Marty's already dealt with one meddling asshole of
> an owner. Why would he do this?
>
** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can make big $$$$ in Big D
> Tony Dungee is very friendly with the Colts still
> and I can't see him going back to a place that
> clearly didn't appreciate him.
** Fixed them once, could fix them again and "fix" his Tampa legacy
>
> Talk has started in Carolina? That's surprising
> even with their bad record this year.
** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a metaphysical certitude--this one is like directions to the bank!
>
> Andy Reid is about to sign a contract extension
> with the Eagles, so you can forget about this
> one.
** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of prison soon,,,that cant be good for his career--Holmgren is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
>
> I would be shocked if Snyder brings in Chucky.
> Although if no one else wants the gig, it might be
> all he has left.
** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection Snyder always likes to remind people of the good old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach the 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to create some offense
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> Schottenheimer to Dallas seems like a longshot.
> Marty's already dealt with one meddling asshole of
> an owner. Why would he do this?
>
** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can make big $$$$ in Big D
> Tony Dungee is very friendly with the Colts still
> and I can't see him going back to a place that
> clearly didn't appreciate him.
** Fixed them once, could fix them again and "fix" his Tampa legacy
>
> Talk has started in Carolina? That's surprising
> even with their bad record this year.
** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a metaphysical certitude--this one is like directions to the bank!
>
> Andy Reid is about to sign a contract extension
> with the Eagles, so you can forget about this
> one.
** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of prison soon,,,that cant be good for his career--Holmgren is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
>
> I would be shocked if Snyder brings in Chucky.
> Although if no one else wants the gig, it might be
> all he has left.
** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection Snyder always likes to remind people of the good old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach the 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to create some offense
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
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Date: October 13, 2009 09:43PM
there's a new urgency to change the name
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 13, 2009 10:17PM
Nostrodammit-The LOGIC Wrote:
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> >
> ** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can
> make big $$$$ in Big D
First, Jerry Jones has already fired every coach who was tough because he couldn't get along with them. Second, Dallas can already make it to the playoffs. They can't win. Schottenheimer already has that covered. Third, doesn't Dallas have some hot-shot OC who has already been promised the job?
>
>
> ** Fixed them once, could fix them again and "fix"
> his Tampa legacy
>
Tampa is an absolute disaster under this new guy. I definitely don't think this guy is there next season at this rate. Marty might actually make sense in Tampa.
> >
>
> ** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a
> metaphysical certitude--this one is like
> directions to the bank!
> >
John Fox has worn out his welcome and Cowher wants a gig in North Carolina. I definitely see this happening.
>
> ** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of prison
> soon,,,that cant be good for his career--Holmgren
> is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the
> baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
> >
Reid's future depends on what happens this year. If the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl again, Reid will hang in there.
>
> ** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection
> Snyder always likes to remind people of the good
> old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach the
> 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to
> create some offense
The trend is toward young coaches. Snyder and Gruden might fool themselves into thinking they can work together. Holmgren's huge ego may allow him to convince himself he can succeed in Ashburn despite Danny Boy. Given the problems Danny Boy is wrestling with, I see a big name coach coming in to save his bacon. I really think he will somehow con Holmgren into this. I also see Campbell going to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in DC.
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>
> >
> ** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can
> make big $$$$ in Big D
First, Jerry Jones has already fired every coach who was tough because he couldn't get along with them. Second, Dallas can already make it to the playoffs. They can't win. Schottenheimer already has that covered. Third, doesn't Dallas have some hot-shot OC who has already been promised the job?
>
>
> ** Fixed them once, could fix them again and "fix"
> his Tampa legacy
>
Tampa is an absolute disaster under this new guy. I definitely don't think this guy is there next season at this rate. Marty might actually make sense in Tampa.
> >
>
> ** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a
> metaphysical certitude--this one is like
> directions to the bank!
> >
John Fox has worn out his welcome and Cowher wants a gig in North Carolina. I definitely see this happening.
>
> ** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of prison
> soon,,,that cant be good for his career--Holmgren
> is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the
> baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
> >
Reid's future depends on what happens this year. If the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl again, Reid will hang in there.
>
> ** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection
> Snyder always likes to remind people of the good
> old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach the
> 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to
> create some offense
The trend is toward young coaches. Snyder and Gruden might fool themselves into thinking they can work together. Holmgren's huge ego may allow him to convince himself he can succeed in Ashburn despite Danny Boy. Given the problems Danny Boy is wrestling with, I see a big name coach coming in to save his bacon. I really think he will somehow con Holmgren into this. I also see Campbell going to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in DC.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 13, 2009 10:41PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I also see Campbell going
> to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that
> happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in
> DC.
I'm okay with Campbell leaving, but I don't like the Brady Quinn part.
I think they draft a 2nd round QB next year and plug him right in. Either that or get Brennan and Daniels up to speed.
When I think about it, I really don't think Zorn is a good QB coach either. I disagree with taking someone that was successful in college (or the pro's) and try to change everything he was taught.
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> I also see Campbell going
> to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that
> happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in
> DC.
I'm okay with Campbell leaving, but I don't like the Brady Quinn part.
I think they draft a 2nd round QB next year and plug him right in. Either that or get Brennan and Daniels up to speed.
When I think about it, I really don't think Zorn is a good QB coach either. I disagree with taking someone that was successful in college (or the pro's) and try to change everything he was taught.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nostrodammit
()
Date: October 13, 2009 11:02PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Nostrodammit-The LOGIC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > >
> > ** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can
> > make big $$$$ in Big D
>
> First, Jerry Jones has already fired every coach
> who was tough because he couldn't get along with
> them. Second, Dallas can already make it to the
> playoffs. They can't win. Schottenheimer already
> has that covered. Third, doesn't Dallas have some
> hot-shot OC who has already been promised the
> job?
>
>
> > Jason Garrett isn't going to sell any tickets,,,I still think Jerry is the most likely candidate to lure Urban Meyer to the NFL,,,and Urbans ego wants to believe he's the next Jimmy Johnson
>
> >
> > ** Fixed them once, could fix them again and
> "fix"
> > his Tampa legacy
> >
>
> Tampa is an absolute disaster under this new guy.
> I definitely don't think this guy is there next
> season at this rate. Marty might actually make
> sense in Tampa.
>
> > > I agree, Marty is made for this situation,,but because it IS such a disaster, Tony could come back to town and resurect the Bucs AGAIN and it would be one of the great stories in the annals of NFL history
>
> >
> > ** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a
> > metaphysical certitude--this one is like
> > directions to the bank!
> > >
>
> John Fox has worn out his welcome and Cowher wants
> a gig in North Carolina. I definitely see this
> happening.
>
>
> > Take it to the bank,,,Cowher already lives there,he doesn't have to move or buy a house,he's settled and ready to go,,,,Fox may want to buy a house in Cleveland and wait by the phone
> > ** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of
> prison
> > soon,,,that cant be good for his
> career--Holmgren
> > is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the
> > baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
> > >
>
> Reid's future depends on what happens this year.
> If the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl again,
> Reid will hang in there.
>
>
> > And when the Eagles DON'T make it AGAIN, Eagle management should start looking at the guy who actually takes the teams he coaches to the superbowl,,,look if you can get Seattle in, you can get Philly in,,,and the clock is ticking with McNabb and Co,,,,,
> > ** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection
> > Snyder always likes to remind people of the
> good
> > old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach
> the
> > 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to
> > create some offense
>
>
> The trend is toward young coaches. Snyder and
> Gruden might fool themselves into thinking they
> can work together. Holmgren's huge ego may allow
> him to convince himself he can succeed in Ashburn
> despite Danny Boy. Given the problems Danny Boy is
> wrestling with, I see a big name coach coming in
> to save his bacon. I really think he will somehow
> con Holmgren into this. I also see Campbell going
> to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that
> happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in
> DC.
Some things to consider,,,,,
When Dan Snyder stands next to Chucky he wont look like a dwarf, and he would be the first coach that isn't old enough to be Danny's daddy
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> Nostrodammit-The LOGIC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > >
> > ** Cowboys need a "get tough" coach, Marty can
> > make big $$$$ in Big D
>
> First, Jerry Jones has already fired every coach
> who was tough because he couldn't get along with
> them. Second, Dallas can already make it to the
> playoffs. They can't win. Schottenheimer already
> has that covered. Third, doesn't Dallas have some
> hot-shot OC who has already been promised the
> job?
>
>
> > Jason Garrett isn't going to sell any tickets,,,I still think Jerry is the most likely candidate to lure Urban Meyer to the NFL,,,and Urbans ego wants to believe he's the next Jimmy Johnson
>
> >
> > ** Fixed them once, could fix them again and
> "fix"
> > his Tampa legacy
> >
>
> Tampa is an absolute disaster under this new guy.
> I definitely don't think this guy is there next
> season at this rate. Marty might actually make
> sense in Tampa.
>
> > > I agree, Marty is made for this situation,,but because it IS such a disaster, Tony could come back to town and resurect the Bucs AGAIN and it would be one of the great stories in the annals of NFL history
>
> >
> > ** This one is my lead pipe lock,,damn near a
> > metaphysical certitude--this one is like
> > directions to the bank!
> > >
>
> John Fox has worn out his welcome and Cowher wants
> a gig in North Carolina. I definitely see this
> happening.
>
>
> > Take it to the bank,,,Cowher already lives there,he doesn't have to move or buy a house,he's settled and ready to go,,,,Fox may want to buy a house in Cleveland and wait by the phone
> > ** Andy Reid's kids will be getting out of
> prison
> > soon,,,that cant be good for his
> career--Holmgren
> > is the closest thing to Reid,,,without all the
> > baggage,,,,baggage full of heroin
> > >
>
> Reid's future depends on what happens this year.
> If the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl again,
> Reid will hang in there.
>
>
> > And when the Eagles DON'T make it AGAIN, Eagle management should start looking at the guy who actually takes the teams he coaches to the superbowl,,,look if you can get Seattle in, you can get Philly in,,,and the clock is ticking with McNabb and Co,,,,,
> > ** Bruce Allen might be the legacy connection
> > Snyder always likes to remind people of the
> good
> > old days,,,and Chucky is the "get tough" coach
> the
> > 'Skins need desperately,,,also might be able to
> > create some offense
>
>
> The trend is toward young coaches. Snyder and
> Gruden might fool themselves into thinking they
> can work together. Holmgren's huge ego may allow
> him to convince himself he can succeed in Ashburn
> despite Danny Boy. Given the problems Danny Boy is
> wrestling with, I see a big name coach coming in
> to save his bacon. I really think he will somehow
> con Holmgren into this. I also see Campbell going
> to Seattle as the future of the Seahawks if that
> happens and someone like Brady Quinn ending up in
> DC.
Some things to consider,,,,,
When Dan Snyder stands next to Chucky he wont look like a dwarf, and he would be the first coach that isn't old enough to be Danny's daddy
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 14, 2009 09:29AM
Riggo to Snyder - Linus, Lose the Blanket
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Lovemotor
()
Date: October 14, 2009 11:44PM
Great Riggo clip,,,,,
Then I looked at the youtube links to other Riggo related videos,,,
And there it was,,,the GREATEST MOMENT IN WASHINGTON SPORTS HISTORY,,,,,
The Superbowl Vs Miami,,4th and 1,,,,,,,"TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!!!!"
" Braves on the Warpath!!!!"
" Fight for Old D.C.!!!!"
I watched this clip about 10X in a row,,,,great memories
What else can you say,,,that team cared,,it had guts,,,
There's a reason this picture is in every sports bar in D.C.
This was when football was real,,,,
This is why real Redskins fans can't stomach the GUTLESS FUCKIN WONDERS that danny
puts out on the field week after fuckin week, year after fuckin year,,,,
JACK KENT COOK WAS A WINNER!---GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God I miss that crazy old man
Then I looked at the youtube links to other Riggo related videos,,,
And there it was,,,the GREATEST MOMENT IN WASHINGTON SPORTS HISTORY,,,,,
The Superbowl Vs Miami,,4th and 1,,,,,,,"TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!!!!"
" Braves on the Warpath!!!!"
" Fight for Old D.C.!!!!"
I watched this clip about 10X in a row,,,,great memories
What else can you say,,,that team cared,,it had guts,,,
There's a reason this picture is in every sports bar in D.C.
This was when football was real,,,,
This is why real Redskins fans can't stomach the GUTLESS FUCKIN WONDERS that danny
puts out on the field week after fuckin week, year after fuckin year,,,,
JACK KENT COOK WAS A WINNER!---GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God I miss that crazy old man
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Doesn't Matter
()
Date: October 15, 2009 12:06AM
Lovemotor Wrote:
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> Great Riggo clip,,,,,
> Then I looked at the youtube links to other Riggo
> related videos,,,
> And there it was,,,the GREATEST MOMENT IN
> WASHINGTON SPORTS HISTORY,,,,,
> The Superbowl Vs Miami,,4th and 1,,,,,,,"TOUCHDOWN
> REDSKINS!!!!"
> " Braves on the Warpath!!!!"
> " Fight for Old D.C.!!!!"
> I watched this clip about 10X in a row,,,,great
> memories
>
> What else can you say,,,that team cared,,it had
> guts,,,
>
> There's a reason this picture is in every sports
> bar in D.C.
>
> This was when football was real,,,,
>
> This is why real Redskins fans can't stomach the
> GUTLESS FUCKIN WONDERS that danny
> puts out on the field week after fuckin week, year
> after fuckin year,,,,
>
> JACK KENT COOK WAS A WINNER!---GONE BUT NOT
> FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> God I miss that crazy old man
+1,000
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> Great Riggo clip,,,,,
> Then I looked at the youtube links to other Riggo
> related videos,,,
> And there it was,,,the GREATEST MOMENT IN
> WASHINGTON SPORTS HISTORY,,,,,
> The Superbowl Vs Miami,,4th and 1,,,,,,,"TOUCHDOWN
> REDSKINS!!!!"
> " Braves on the Warpath!!!!"
> " Fight for Old D.C.!!!!"
> I watched this clip about 10X in a row,,,,great
> memories
>
> What else can you say,,,that team cared,,it had
> guts,,,
>
> There's a reason this picture is in every sports
> bar in D.C.
>
> This was when football was real,,,,
>
> This is why real Redskins fans can't stomach the
> GUTLESS FUCKIN WONDERS that danny
> puts out on the field week after fuckin week, year
> after fuckin year,,,,
>
> JACK KENT COOK WAS A WINNER!---GONE BUT NOT
> FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> God I miss that crazy old man
+1,000
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Hatemotor
()
Date: October 19, 2009 12:06AM
Soooo,,..now the guy brought in to run the offense isn't allowed to call the plays,,,,,
Would you just fire this guy already
and make a trade before the deadline,,any trade,,,do something to make us feel better,,,,,,
we want blood,,,,,,,,,,,,
Would you just fire this guy already
and make a trade before the deadline,,any trade,,,do something to make us feel better,,,,,,
we want blood,,,,,,,,,,,,
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: October 19, 2009 08:46AM
Hatemotor Wrote:
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> Soooo,,..now the guy brought in to run the offense
> isn't allowed to call the plays,,,,,
>
> Would you just fire this guy already
>
> and make a trade before the deadline,,any
> trade,,,do something to make us feel better,,,,,,
>
> we want blood,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have some apparel you might be interested in...
http://stores.colorworkspromotions.com/TheFan/HFZ/
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> Soooo,,..now the guy brought in to run the offense
> isn't allowed to call the plays,,,,,
>
> Would you just fire this guy already
>
> and make a trade before the deadline,,any
> trade,,,do something to make us feel better,,,,,,
>
> we want blood,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have some apparel you might be interested in...
http://stores.colorworkspromotions.com/TheFan/HFZ/
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
dono
()
Date: October 19, 2009 09:20AM
Keep Cooley. Bench or fire everyone else on the Offense.
Hire some talented practice squad players and amateurs (strike year) to play out the year. We will lose the rest of the schedule no matter what - why not find some hidden talent in the industry? One or two gems would bring something out of the season.
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Hire some talented practice squad players and amateurs (strike year) to play out the year. We will lose the rest of the schedule no matter what - why not find some hidden talent in the industry? One or two gems would bring something out of the season.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: October 19, 2009 09:53AM
nice..
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nostrodammit
()
Date: October 19, 2009 08:46PM
Nostrodammit--UPDATE Wrote:
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> > 2010 nfl predictions****UPDATE****
> >
> > 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher
> hired====UPDATE--Talk has started
> >
> > 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan
> hired====UPDATE--Turned down Redskins
> job,,,TWICE!!!!
> >
> > 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden
> hired====UPDATE---DEAD MAN WALKING
4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired---ADD
> Marty Schottenheimer as a longshot candidate
> >
> > 5)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren
> hired===UPDATE--"would like to coach on the East
> Coast",,,,Eagles lose to Raiders,,,,
> >
> > 6)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
> >
> 7)Buffalo-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
> >
> ADD Tampa Bay-EVERYONE FIRED / T. Dungee returns
> in some compacity
ADD Titans to the watch list---if they have to go into re-build mode,Fischer might be in trouble
ADD Raiders to watch list----coach might be in jail regardless if he gets fired or not,,,,,,the return of Jerry Glanville to the NFL?
> > ------------------
> > **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
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> > 2010 nfl predictions****UPDATE****
> >
> > 1)Carolina-Fox fired/ Cowher
> hired====UPDATE--Talk has started
> >
> > 2)San Diego-Norv fired/ Shanahan
> hired====UPDATE--Turned down Redskins
> job,,,TWICE!!!!
> >
> > 3)Washington-Zorn fired/ Gruden
> hired====UPDATE---DEAD MAN WALKING
4)Dallas-Phillips fired/ U. Meyer hired---ADD
> Marty Schottenheimer as a longshot candidate
> >
> > 5)Philadelphia-Reid retires/ Holmgren
> hired===UPDATE--"would like to coach on the East
> Coast",,,,Eagles lose to Raiders,,,,
> >
> > 6)Jacksonville-Del Rio FIRED/ Denny Green?
> >
> 7)Buffalo-Jauron fired/ Fassel hired
> >
> ADD Tampa Bay-EVERYONE FIRED / T. Dungee returns
> in some compacity
ADD Titans to the watch list---if they have to go into re-build mode,Fischer might be in trouble
ADD Raiders to watch list----coach might be in jail regardless if he gets fired or not,,,,,,the return of Jerry Glanville to the NFL?
> > ------------------
> > **Notre Dame-fat boy fired/ Skip Holtz hired
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Who the F*** are you?
()
Date: October 27, 2009 12:24AM
Its week 8,,,,halfway through the NFL season ,,,
Do you know who YOU ARE?
YOU ARE,,,Carolina Panthers fan,,,including last seasons playoff debacle,your QB has thrown 18!!!! interceptions and 4 td's,,,and lost 3 fumbles
Your coach says "we MAY have to change the status quo" ?!?!?!?!
Loyalty my ass,,,get a rope
YOU ARE,,,the ST Louis Rams,,,the worst team in football,,,your fans are ready to drive you out of town,,,which is good,because you'll need drivers for the moving vans you'll be driving to LA,,,
More good news,,,you'll be some of the few people in California with a job
YOU ARE,,,Daniel Snyder,,,,and your no Jack Kent Cook little man!!!
Vegas has your team (+14) vs a wet paper bag,,,
Time to push Cerrato in front of a bus and find out where the hell he's hiding those pictures of you and the gerbil
YOU ARE,,,Charlie Weiss,,,and your on national television,!!! WIPE YOUR NOSE,,,
you freakin neanderthal
YOU ARE,,, the Oakland Raiders and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,,,,,you just played each other in the SUPER BOWL a few years ago!!!!
How can teams in uniforms so cool suck so bad
YOU ARE,,,Mike Shanahan and you cant wait to start coaching the Chargers,,,two shots a year at the Broncos and the Raiders,,,
"Hey Al,,,DONT YOU GO DYING ON ME YOU CRAZY OLD BASTARD!!!!"
YOU ARE,,,Jeff Fisher,,,and apparently you started smoking crack sometime in the last 8 months,,,Your 0-6,,,If you want to wear a Peyton Manning jersey in Tennessee,,make sure its a Volunteers jersey,,,
Also,your seasons over, play Vince Young,,,theres more reasons to play him than not play him at this point,,,you treat this guy like you caught him screwing your wife,,,,uh oh
YOU ARE,,,Cleveland Browns fan,,,Yes,it is all a cruel hoax to drive you over the edge
YOU ARE,,,at the end of this list,,,,more later
Do you know who YOU ARE?
YOU ARE,,,Carolina Panthers fan,,,including last seasons playoff debacle,your QB has thrown 18!!!! interceptions and 4 td's,,,and lost 3 fumbles
Your coach says "we MAY have to change the status quo" ?!?!?!?!
Loyalty my ass,,,get a rope
YOU ARE,,,the ST Louis Rams,,,the worst team in football,,,your fans are ready to drive you out of town,,,which is good,because you'll need drivers for the moving vans you'll be driving to LA,,,
More good news,,,you'll be some of the few people in California with a job
YOU ARE,,,Daniel Snyder,,,,and your no Jack Kent Cook little man!!!
Vegas has your team (+14) vs a wet paper bag,,,
Time to push Cerrato in front of a bus and find out where the hell he's hiding those pictures of you and the gerbil
YOU ARE,,,Charlie Weiss,,,and your on national television,!!! WIPE YOUR NOSE,,,
you freakin neanderthal
YOU ARE,,, the Oakland Raiders and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,,,,,you just played each other in the SUPER BOWL a few years ago!!!!
How can teams in uniforms so cool suck so bad
YOU ARE,,,Mike Shanahan and you cant wait to start coaching the Chargers,,,two shots a year at the Broncos and the Raiders,,,
"Hey Al,,,DONT YOU GO DYING ON ME YOU CRAZY OLD BASTARD!!!!"
YOU ARE,,,Jeff Fisher,,,and apparently you started smoking crack sometime in the last 8 months,,,Your 0-6,,,If you want to wear a Peyton Manning jersey in Tennessee,,make sure its a Volunteers jersey,,,
Also,your seasons over, play Vince Young,,,theres more reasons to play him than not play him at this point,,,you treat this guy like you caught him screwing your wife,,,,uh oh
YOU ARE,,,Cleveland Browns fan,,,Yes,it is all a cruel hoax to drive you over the edge
YOU ARE,,,at the end of this list,,,,more later
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
()
Date: October 27, 2009 12:27AM
I'll never abandon my 'Skins, but damn, watching them play is pathetic and depressing at the same time. What was up with Randle El taking the Punt Return to the face mask, and then turning it over? The only explanation I can come up with is that the ball must've been crossing through the stadium light glare, but that was still crazy.
Oh well, at least I still have my Yanks and Caps to look forward to.
Oh well, at least I still have my Yanks and Caps to look forward to.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: October 27, 2009 08:30AM
There's really just nothing left to say about the Redskins.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 27, 2009 11:20AM
BINGO! 17 Again! I have 17 Again!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
4X4k3
()
Date: October 27, 2009 12:23PM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> I'll never abandon my 'Skins, but damn, watching
> them play is pathetic and depressing at the same
> time.
You know, I came to the conclusion that no matter what I say, I truly am a Redskins fan and I want them to do well. I just have no faith in them. About the only reason I even tune into the game occasionally is to see how badly they're losing. I've accepted the fact that they're losers and that there's nothing I can do about it. Now my entertainment comes from watching the experts directly call Snyder an idiot and laughing at Homers as they rant and rave about yet another loss. Seriously, what makes anyone think these guys can win anything?
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> I'll never abandon my 'Skins, but damn, watching
> them play is pathetic and depressing at the same
> time.
You know, I came to the conclusion that no matter what I say, I truly am a Redskins fan and I want them to do well. I just have no faith in them. About the only reason I even tune into the game occasionally is to see how badly they're losing. I've accepted the fact that they're losers and that there's nothing I can do about it. Now my entertainment comes from watching the experts directly call Snyder an idiot and laughing at Homers as they rant and rave about yet another loss. Seriously, what makes anyone think these guys can win anything?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 08, 2009 06:43PM
So which was worse in today's game? Watching Campbell get the holy shit kicked out of him by a three-man rush, or watching Jim Zorn stand on the sideline like he was some guy on the concourse waiting to buy a beer and a hot dog while D'Angelo Hall or Albert Haynesworth nearly got ejected from the game? What a fucking nightmare (but at least they got their 17 points!)
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: November 08, 2009 07:25PM
The good news is the offense only gave the Falcons 7 pts. this week.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Lurker.
()
Date: November 08, 2009 07:52PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> The good news is the offense only gave the Falcons
> 7 pts. this week.
There was good news from today's game? I don't think we should refer to the Redskins as "the Redskin team." We should say "the guys who are playing in the Redskins jerseys."
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> The good news is the offense only gave the Falcons
> 7 pts. this week.
There was good news from today's game? I don't think we should refer to the Redskins as "the Redskin team." We should say "the guys who are playing in the Redskins jerseys."
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
True Fan
()
Date: November 08, 2009 07:58PM
That rally in the second half bodes well for the rest of the season.
It's starting to come together.
The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these Washington Redskins.
It's starting to come together.
The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these Washington Redskins.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 08, 2009 08:11PM
True Fan Wrote:
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> That rally in the second half bodes well for the
> rest of the season.
>
> It's starting to come together.
>
> The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these
> Washington Redskins.
LOL!
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> That rally in the second half bodes well for the
> rest of the season.
>
> It's starting to come together.
>
> The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these
> Washington Redskins.
LOL!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
-.,SBS,-
()
Date: November 08, 2009 08:16PM
True Fan Wrote:
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> That rally in the second half bodes well for the
> rest of the season.
>
> It's starting to come together.
>
> The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these
> Washington Redskins.
Mmmm, that must be some good kool-aid!!
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> That rally in the second half bodes well for the
> rest of the season.
>
> It's starting to come together.
>
> The thing I'm impressed with is the fight in these
> Washington Redskins.
Mmmm, that must be some good kool-aid!!
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Hatemotor
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Date: November 30, 2009 03:07PM
What do Jesses James, John Dillenger and Albert Haynesworth have in common?
They're all famous bankrobbers
They're all famous bankrobbers
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 30, 2009 03:16PM
Hatemotor Wrote:
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> What do Jesses James, John Dillenger and Albert
> Haynesworth have in common?
>
> They're all famous bankrobbers
The $100 million money shot...
Just stomp on someone's head, and Danny Boy gets a hard-on.
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> What do Jesses James, John Dillenger and Albert
> Haynesworth have in common?
>
> They're all famous bankrobbers
The $100 million money shot...
Just stomp on someone's head, and Danny Boy gets a hard-on.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 14, 2009 02:01PM
So the Redskins handily defeat the pathetic Raiders and now everyone is on the radio this morning saying, "Stay the course with Zorn" and "Maybe Vinny Cerrato isn't that bad."
Are these people out of their fucking minds???? The reason the Raiders flopped yesterday is because JaMarcus Russell was the QB for the second half. JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL practice squad, much playing QB in an actual game.
Get over it, people. The Skins are a bit better than they were, but they aren't a playoff caliber team and won't be with the personnel they have or with Zorn as the coach or with Vinny/Danny Boy as GM.
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Are these people out of their fucking minds???? The reason the Raiders flopped yesterday is because JaMarcus Russell was the QB for the second half. JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL practice squad, much playing QB in an actual game.
Get over it, people. The Skins are a bit better than they were, but they aren't a playoff caliber team and won't be with the personnel they have or with Zorn as the coach or with Vinny/Danny Boy as GM.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Warhawk
()
Date: December 14, 2009 02:15PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Are these people out of their fucking minds????
> The reason the Raiders flopped yesterday is
> because JaMarcus Russell was the QB for the second
> half. JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> game.
The only thing the Raiders or Redskins should battle for first place on is "Which team is the worst run team in the NFL?
To this day, I cannot believe that the Raiders picked JaMarcus Russell first overall.
The Redskins will reach their maximum potential of 4-12/5-11 which most realists figured from Week 1.
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
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> Are these people out of their fucking minds????
> The reason the Raiders flopped yesterday is
> because JaMarcus Russell was the QB for the second
> half. JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> game.
The only thing the Raiders or Redskins should battle for first place on is "Which team is the worst run team in the NFL?
To this day, I cannot believe that the Raiders picked JaMarcus Russell first overall.
The Redskins will reach their maximum potential of 4-12/5-11 which most realists figured from Week 1.
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 14, 2009 02:39PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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>
> To this day, I cannot believe that the Raiders
> picked JaMarcus Russell first overall.
>
I admit that JaMarcus Russell was fucking phenomenal in the Sugar Bowl. But, you are right. The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett. Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't in the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates Lane Kiffin so much.
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>
> To this day, I cannot believe that the Raiders
> picked JaMarcus Russell first overall.
>
I admit that JaMarcus Russell was fucking phenomenal in the Sugar Bowl. But, you are right. The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett. Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't in the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates Lane Kiffin so much.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: December 15, 2009 02:30PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> game.
JaMarcus Russell is by far the worst NFL QB I've ever seen. Even after he botched the second half of the Skins game, the coach of the Raiders says they still plan on him being their future franchise QB.
WTF?
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JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> game.
JaMarcus Russell is by far the worst NFL QB I've ever seen. Even after he botched the second half of the Skins game, the coach of the Raiders says they still plan on him being their future franchise QB.
WTF?
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 15, 2009 02:56PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> > practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> > game.
>
>
> JaMarcus Russell is by far the worst NFL QB I've
> ever seen. Even after he botched the second half
> of the Skins game, the coach of the Raiders says
> they still plan on him being their future
> franchise QB.
>
> WTF?
Hopefully Cable meant that they would play Russell until Gradkowski gets better. I realize Al Davis is insane and has spent a lot of money of Russell, but he couldn't possibly be insisting that Cable play that guy when Gradkowski is at least functional at QB.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> JaMarcus Russell shouldn't even be on an NFL
> > practice squad, much playing QB in an actual
> > game.
>
>
> JaMarcus Russell is by far the worst NFL QB I've
> ever seen. Even after he botched the second half
> of the Skins game, the coach of the Raiders says
> they still plan on him being their future
> franchise QB.
>
> WTF?
Hopefully Cable meant that they would play Russell until Gradkowski gets better. I realize Al Davis is insane and has spent a lot of money of Russell, but he couldn't possibly be insisting that Cable play that guy when Gradkowski is at least functional at QB.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
rav
()
Date: December 15, 2009 03:13PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned
> journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett.
> Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't in
> the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates
> Lane Kiffin so much.
Like Todd Marinovich?
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> The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned
> journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett.
> Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't in
> the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates
> Lane Kiffin so much.
Like Todd Marinovich?
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 15, 2009 04:14PM
rav Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned
> > journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim
> Plunkett.
> > Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't
> in
> > the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates
> > Lane Kiffin so much.
>
> Like Todd Marinovich?
And look how well that turned out. Most of their success has been tied to using veterans.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > The Raiders had a reputation for using seasoned
> > journeymen QBs like Rich Gannon and Jim
> Plunkett.
> > Even when they drafted Kenny Stabler, it wasn't
> in
> > the 1st Round. Maybe that's why Al Davis hates
> > Lane Kiffin so much.
>
> Like Todd Marinovich?
And look how well that turned out. Most of their success has been tied to using veterans.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Fire Dan and Vinnie Bilboard Truck
()
Date: December 15, 2009 06:39PM
Sell OUR team and Fire Vinny. Thank you.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: December 15, 2009 06:42PM
Ahhh...the good folks of Skyline.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
BREAKING NEWS
()
Date: December 17, 2009 08:14AM
Vinny Cerrato has "resigned."
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: December 17, 2009 09:45AM
We'll see how that plays out, finally some change at the top.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Fire Danny and Vinny Billboard Truck
()
Date: December 18, 2009 08:48AM
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 18, 2009 09:09AM
Danny Boy won't be able to help himself. I bet by this time next year there will be stories in the press about how Danny Boy is trying to force Bruce Allen out. That's the way the angry midget rolls.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Dan is Short
()
Date: December 18, 2009 10:33AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Danny Boy won't be able to help himself. I bet by
> this time next year there will be stories in the
> press about how Danny Boy is trying to force Bruce
> Allen out. That's the way the angry midget rolls.
+100
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> Danny Boy won't be able to help himself. I bet by
> this time next year there will be stories in the
> press about how Danny Boy is trying to force Bruce
> Allen out. That's the way the angry midget rolls.
+100
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Nananana Hey Hey Good Riddance
()
Date: December 18, 2009 10:34AM
Fire Danny and Vinny Billboard Truck Wrote:
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+1000
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+1000
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Fixed
()
Date: December 18, 2009 02:27PM
Too long of name
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: December 28, 2009 12:16PM
I just wanted to bump this thread real quickly. It's amazing how, after the loss to Detroit, people were upset and talking about it. Now, after two humiliating prime-time losses, going 0 and 6 against the NFC East, and being shut out at home by Dallas, nobody cares.
I wonder if this volume of apathy is going to carry over into next season? Have people finally noticed that the 'Skins have a habit of getting your hopes up (several 30+ point games, a convincing win over Oakland), only to take a giant shit on you once you're happy with them. Somehow I doubt it. I'm sure the buzz about the July Championship will spin up soon.
I wonder if this volume of apathy is going to carry over into next season? Have people finally noticed that the 'Skins have a habit of getting your hopes up (several 30+ point games, a convincing win over Oakland), only to take a giant shit on you once you're happy with them. Somehow I doubt it. I'm sure the buzz about the July Championship will spin up soon.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Jackie the Jokeman
()
Date: December 28, 2009 12:46PM
Mr. Captcha - you are correct, nobody cares now. Snyder has ruined this football team. And Mike Shanahan isn't going to be able to fix the problem.
The Caps are the hot ticket now. Great skins teams are only a memory. A twenty year old memory at that.
The Caps are the hot ticket now. Great skins teams are only a memory. A twenty year old memory at that.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Fairfax Felix
()
Date: December 28, 2009 04:15PM
Jackie the Jokeman Wrote:
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> Mr. Captcha - you are correct, nobody cares now.
> Snyder has ruined this football team. And Mike
> Shanahan isn't going to be able to fix the
> problem.
>
> The Caps are the hot ticket now. Great skins
> teams are only a memory. A twenty year old memory
> at that.
Indeed. and please, please stop rolling out those 20 year old Lombardi trophies. It dishonors the memory of some great teams.
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> Mr. Captcha - you are correct, nobody cares now.
> Snyder has ruined this football team. And Mike
> Shanahan isn't going to be able to fix the
> problem.
>
> The Caps are the hot ticket now. Great skins
> teams are only a memory. A twenty year old memory
> at that.
Indeed. and please, please stop rolling out those 20 year old Lombardi trophies. It dishonors the memory of some great teams.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 28, 2009 06:03PM
If the Caps win the Stanley Cup, DC will become a hockey town. You can feel the shift happening already.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
steve k2
()
Date: December 28, 2009 07:00PM
Washington will always be a football town.
With regards to no one caring anymore, I'd say we're all very disappointed. At this point though what more can be said. After the KC loss like 10 weeks ago, I think everyone realized the team finishing this season is just a formality.
Of course they just embarrassed themselves on national tv in a 6 day span being outscored 62-12. We all would have loved to see them win but what difference has the last 10 weeks made? Major changes are needed and I'm hopeful they'll come but I'm not holding my breath.
With regards to no one caring anymore, I'd say we're all very disappointed. At this point though what more can be said. After the KC loss like 10 weeks ago, I think everyone realized the team finishing this season is just a formality.
Of course they just embarrassed themselves on national tv in a 6 day span being outscored 62-12. We all would have loved to see them win but what difference has the last 10 weeks made? Major changes are needed and I'm hopeful they'll come but I'm not holding my breath.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 28, 2009 07:08PM
steve k2 Wrote:
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> Washington will always be a football town.
>
I'm not so sure about that. The reason the Redskins became a big deal in DC was because there was nothing else. The Senators sucked for most of their time here. The Wizards/Bullets did win a national title, but that was in the 70s, before Byrd, Magic, and Jordan transformed it into a true national sport. And the Caps couldn't get it done last time they were contenders for the Stanley Cup.
There was probably a time when Detroit was "Tiger Town" or "Lions Town." That really isn't the case anymore. The Sabres are a bigger deal in Buffalo now than are the Bills. If the Cavs win a title under LeBron, the Browns may not be a factor in Cleveland anymore.
Times change. People like Snyder can't assume fans will remain fans forever, especially when he does things like tries to dismantle his fan base by breaking up tail gates and harassing long-time season ticket holders with threats of lawsuits.
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> Washington will always be a football town.
>
I'm not so sure about that. The reason the Redskins became a big deal in DC was because there was nothing else. The Senators sucked for most of their time here. The Wizards/Bullets did win a national title, but that was in the 70s, before Byrd, Magic, and Jordan transformed it into a true national sport. And the Caps couldn't get it done last time they were contenders for the Stanley Cup.
There was probably a time when Detroit was "Tiger Town" or "Lions Town." That really isn't the case anymore. The Sabres are a bigger deal in Buffalo now than are the Bills. If the Cavs win a title under LeBron, the Browns may not be a factor in Cleveland anymore.
Times change. People like Snyder can't assume fans will remain fans forever, especially when he does things like tries to dismantle his fan base by breaking up tail gates and harassing long-time season ticket holders with threats of lawsuits.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Numbers
()
Date: December 28, 2009 09:26PM
I think DC will always be a football town, mainly because hockey is boring up until the Stanley Cup and there is less chance of the Nats getting good in the near future than the Skins.
At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Skins could get to just a stable and competitive level. Lets face it, neither Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick is going anywhere, so we either need to strike gold with the next coach or just hope to get back to average (which is a major step forward at this point).
The next two weeks will be interesting nevertheless.
At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Skins could get to just a stable and competitive level. Lets face it, neither Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick is going anywhere, so we either need to strike gold with the next coach or just hope to get back to average (which is a major step forward at this point).
The next two weeks will be interesting nevertheless.
Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: December 28, 2009 09:30PM
Numbers Wrote:
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> I think DC will always be a football town, mainly
> because hockey is boring up until the Stanley Cup
> and there is less chance of the Nats getting good
> in the near future than the Skins.
>
> At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Skins could
> get to just a stable and competitive level. Lets
> face it, neither Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick is
> going anywhere, so we either need to strike gold
> with the next coach or just hope to get back to
> average (which is a major step forward at this
> point).
>
> The next two weeks will be interesting
> nevertheless.
Let's be honest. You could have Tony Dungy, Bill Belicheck, Bill Cowher, Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown...somehow Danny Boy is going to figure out a way to fuck it up.
It's like the story of the scorpian and the frog. Danny Boy can tell Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan and Jimmy Clausen and whoever else that he won't sting them halfway through the pond. He will. He's a fucking scorpian. That's his nature.
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> I think DC will always be a football town, mainly
> because hockey is boring up until the Stanley Cup
> and there is less chance of the Nats getting good
> in the near future than the Skins.
>
> At this point, I'd be thrilled if the Skins could
> get to just a stable and competitive level. Lets
> face it, neither Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick is
> going anywhere, so we either need to strike gold
> with the next coach or just hope to get back to
> average (which is a major step forward at this
> point).
>
> The next two weeks will be interesting
> nevertheless.
Let's be honest. You could have Tony Dungy, Bill Belicheck, Bill Cowher, Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown...somehow Danny Boy is going to figure out a way to fuck it up.
It's like the story of the scorpian and the frog. Danny Boy can tell Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan and Jimmy Clausen and whoever else that he won't sting them halfway through the pond. He will. He's a fucking scorpian. That's his nature.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by:
Mr Captcha
()
Date: December 28, 2009 10:38PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's like the story of the scorpian and the frog.
That has to be one of my favorite parables...
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> It's like the story of the scorpian and the frog.
That has to be one of my favorite parables...
The Scorpion and the Frog A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too." The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?" Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."