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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 22, 2009 02:57PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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>
>
> Well, to be fair, holding onto 2 touchdown passes
> would have drastically altered the argument here.

To be fair, when have Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers demonstrated that they are the "go to" guys for passes?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 22, 2009 03:08PM

I'd imagine professional receivers and backs who ARENT names Moss and Portis would be expected to catch passes when they're open.

What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do with? LOL

You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis dropped those passes?

I understand you're angry, but don't lose your mind, FFS.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 22, 2009 09:56PM

Oh Dear. Robert Henson, linebacker for the Skins is calling the fans "dim-witted" for booing the team last sunday on his now removed Twitter page.

See story here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4495020

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 22, 2009 11:27PM

Yeah, the guy who never played a down in the game. LOL

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 23, 2009 09:49AM

What a jerkoff. Note to Henson: NFL stands for Not For Long.

Way to make a name for yourself. Hope he has a good backup career plan.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 23, 2009 10:51AM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> I'd imagine professional receivers and backs who
> ARENT names Moss and Portis would be expected to
> catch passes when they're open.
>
> What the fuck does "go to" have anything to do
> with? LOL
>
> You'd make a different point if Moss and Portis
> dropped those passes?
>
> I understand you're angry, but don't lose your
> mind, FFS.

"Go to" is pretty obvious. Chris Cooley is a "go to" guy because he catches the ball in all kinds of situations. So do Clinton Portis and Todd Yoder. Devin Thomas and Mike Sellers have demonstrated repeatedly that they have rock hands. No end zone play should rely on those guys catching the ball.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: September 23, 2009 12:16PM

ok, fine.

So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be your point?

( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing, but thanks for explaining.)

Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 23, 2009 12:57PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> ok, fine.
>
> So, if Cooley drops those 2 passes, what would be
> your point?
>
> ( I think most of us get the whole "go to" thing,
> but thanks for explaining.)
>
> Disclaimer: Im not a Skins fan. Actually enjoy the
> gnashing of teeth and "chicken littleing" when
> they crash and burn. It amuses me to no end how
> Skins fans, every year, imagine they have a
> Super-Bowl bound team and go immediately into
> "heads must roll" mode when they fall short. And
> btw, Albert Hayneworth/$100M=huge LOL.


It would change things because it would have shown that Zorn understands what he is doing with his talent by going to Cooley. You don't design critical red zone plays with the intent of using your unreliable fourth receiver or your hands-of-stone full back as the playmaker.

Claiming that the Skins almost scored two TDs because of Thomas and Sellers dropping the ball is like saying the team almost scored two TDs by having Clinton Portis run a draw play at 3 and 13 from the 20 yard line. In all instances it should have been apparent to Zorn and company that while it was possible it would work, odds were improbable that it would work.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 23, 2009 01:41PM

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>Oh Dear. Robert Henson, linebacker for the Skins is calling the fans "dim->witted" for booing the team last sunday on his now removed Twitter page.

Maybe he should look in the Mirror. The players who don't understand the boos are the dim-witted ones. People watch NFL and sports in gerneral to be entertainment. In fact, sports is part of the entertainment industry if I am not mistaken. NO ONE WAS ENTERTAINED last sunday, or the past year at that. The entertainment value of this franchise has been on a percipitous decline for 8 years. Fans at the stadium probably pay out $500 on average and 10 hours of thier time for the typical game day expeierence. Why, TO BE ENTERTAINED!

Maybe if some of those clownes actually graduated, or took a business class or any real class, they would get this. I know some of them do, you hear them say "This is a business at the end of day" during thier contract negotiations.

Someone should give these guys a copy of the movie "Gladiator". As I recall in the movie, the greatest gladiator in Rome was great because he enterained the crowd, not just won.



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Jackie the Jokeman ()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:50PM

I'll tell you what's wrong with the skins, these religious coaches. Get a ball buster in here who can get these overpaid pussies into shape. Coach Zorn is a borderline woman. Bring in a real man and he'll get it done. Like Mike Shanahan...he'll break balls and make it happen.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 23, 2009 04:52PM

Jackie the Jokeman Wrote:
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> I'll tell you what's wrong with the skins, these
> religious coaches. Get a ball buster in here who
> can get these overpaid pussies into shape. Coach
> Zorn is a borderline woman. Bring in a real man
> and he'll get it done. Like Mike Shanahan...he'll
> break balls and make it happen.


That doesn't work with Snyder. If a ball-busting coach comes in and rips Portis a new asshole, Portis will go to Snyder and cry. Next thing you know, the coach will be on Red Zebra publicly apologizing to everyone.

This is no way to run an organization...ANY organization.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 23, 2009 04:52PM

BTW, Bill Parcells contract with the Dolphins is up this year. Does anyone think he'd be a good replacement for Vinny?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 23, 2009 04:54PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> BTW, Bill Parcells contract with the Dolphins is
> up this year. Does anyone think he'd be a good
> replacement for Vinny?


Yes. But he won't be.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 12:12PM

Great video from Sundays game...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 01:24PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> Great video from Sundays game...
>
> http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0900
> 0d5d812dca56/Sound-FX-A-QBs-tutelage


This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how fucking great he is in the middle of trying to beat his team. WTF???

It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil are known to put a boot up the ass when required.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 01:49PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> This speaks volumes about what is wrong. Where the
> fuck is the sense of urgency? He's sitting there
> saying that the tempo of the offense is great. It
> wasn't. Then he is telling Steven Jackson how
> fucking great he is in the middle of trying to
> beat his team. WTF???
>
> It's obvious from this video that Zorn was born to
> be a nurturing QB coach but doesn't have the fire
> or the pure asshole-ness needed to be a head
> coach. Even "nice guys" like Shanahan and Vermeil
> are known to put a boot up the ass when required.

Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters always want to hate. What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team. A coach who is calm and decisive but who also can get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue, which you obviously do not.

When he says that to Jackson he's really saying "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.

Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the reason you like assholes so much is because you are one.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:22PM

More Complete Wrote:
> What just about everyone else sees is a head coach in command of his team.


What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?

If they didn't know before, now the whole offense knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a born non-leader.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 02:27PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> Sorry your beer glass is always half empty. Haters
> always want to hate. What just about everyone else
> sees is a head coach in command of his team.

Actually, nobody sees that. That's why there has been so much speculation about Zorn not finishing the season. The fans who booed Zorn on Sunday didn't see that, either.

A
> coach who is calm and decisive but who also can
> get frustrated. The guy obviously has a clue,
> which you obviously do not.

Insult me all you want. The fact is Zorn isn't decisive and isn't in command. He has demonstrated horrible clock management. The running play that Portis got stopped on was a busted play because the O-Line didn't know which way to block. The only person Zorn seems to talk to on the team is Campbell.

>
> When he says that to Jackson he's really saying
> "mind your own business, I'm talking to the refs
> here" because Jackson is trying to listen in.
>

No. He really likes Steven Jackson and wants his autograph after the game.

> Gibbs is a nice guy and so is Dungy. Maybe the
> reason you like assholes so much is because you
> are one.

Gibbs knew how to get up someone's ass when he needed to. And Dungy was a nice guy because his players respected him for his command of the game. I get the impression for the players' body language that they don't respect Zorn or think he knows what he's doing.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:32PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> What I see is a QB that needs to constantly be
> told what to say to the team in the huddle. WTF?
>
> If they didn't know before, now the whole offense
> knows that Campbell is a parrot for Zorn. He is a
> born non-leader.

Well the video is focusing on Zorn's interactions with Campbell. He simply said "tell the guys..." The only person with a radio is the QB. Zorn wanted a message delivered and Jason was the messenger.

WTF? WTF? WTF? Is that all you guys can say? Jesus.

Haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I don't even want none of the above I want to piss on you, yes I do, I piss on you. ;)

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:35PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I get the impression for the players' body
> language that they don't respect Zorn or think he
> knows what he's doing.

I get the impression, more and more with every post you make on this thread, that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry.

I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho, I'm sure you would have.



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 02:45PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> I get the impression, more and more with every
> post you make on this thread, that you have no
> idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
>
> I was AT the game on Sunday. Were you? Have you
> ever been to a game? Not everyone was booing, tho,
> I'm sure you would have.

Even Hitler knows the deal...



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:50PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Even Hitler knows the deal...
>
>

Blocked. Tho I think I've seen it and it was funny the first time, two years ago.

The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows football very well. It also clearly shows he hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.

If you can't see that I can't help you.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 02:58PM

More Complete Wrote:
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>
> The video clip clearly shows that Zorn knows
> football very well. It also clearly shows he
> hasn't "lost the team" as some in the media like
> to infer in order to sell newspapers and ads.
>


Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?

"I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said. "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I think everybody in this organization on the hot seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long before people just give up and stop coming? You look at the players, and people want you out of here. You look at the coach, people want you out of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we come out and play to our potential, I think everybody on the hot seat."

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:20PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Clinton Portis gives quotes like this in the
> newspaper and Zorn hasn't lost the team?
>
> "I mean, performance, as a team," Portis said.
> "We're getting booed coming off the field. So I
> think everybody in this organization on the hot
> seat. You know, I think you look at the owner, he
> on the verge of losing fans. You know, how long
> before people just give up and stop coming? You
> look at the players, and people want you out of
> here. You look at the coach, people want you out
> of here. So who's not on the hot seat? Until we
> come out and play to our potential, I think
> everybody on the hot seat."

You can read into what you want but you are taking this out of context. Portis has repeatedly expressed confidence in Zorn as has just about everyone else on the team. Here is an excerpt from Cooleys blog for example....

Alright, I've spent the last two days listening to never ending gripe about how terrible the Washington Redskins are. Our coaching is dreadful. Zorn is on the hot seat. Our play calling is outright awful. Anyone can call better red zone plays. Our team is a bunch of overpaid bums. Getting booed by a bunch of "dim-wits." And I don't even need to mention the way fans despise our ownership. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.

and a quote from Portis earlier in the week...

"We execute the plays--Coach Zorn, ohhh, he's a great play caller," Portis said. "Being that we haven't executed, we're dropping passes, we're a second away, it makes it look like--Oh, what'd he call that play for? If the play is successful-- Oh, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn, Coach Zorn....Like I said man, we all together, we all believe and we gonna keep fighting as a team."

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:22PM

You can read more of Portis interview here and get back to me on how Zorn has lost the team...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 03:36PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> You can read more of Portis interview here and get
> back to me on how Zorn has lost the team...
>


Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 24, 2009 03:38PM

Miffed over his lack of playing time in last week's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Portis used his radio airtime on WTEM-AM to accuse Zorn of sending mixed messages. He also sarcastically called Zorn a "genius," spoke of the possibility of severing ties with the organization and said of the coaching staff: "I don't think they know what they want me to do."

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 04:26PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Redskins 9, Rams 7. The numbers don't lie.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 24, 2009 04:27PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Miffed over his lack of playing time in last
> week's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, Portis
> used his radio airtime on WTEM-AM to accuse Zorn
> of sending mixed messages. He also sarcastically
> called Zorn a "genius," spoke of the possibility
> of severing ties with the organization and said of
> the coaching staff: "I don't think they know what
> they want me to do."

This was last year. Nice try. Last time I checked, Zorn is still coach.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 25, 2009 09:02AM

For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually calling the correct plays, and if executed correctly, that play would work. However, since the plays being called are not executed correctly, running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped, and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical conclusion is there must be a problem with how these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get enough effort out of the team during practice as Coughlin, or Bellicheck.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 09:35AM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.


If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are calling the wrong plays.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:02AM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> calling the correct plays, and if executed
> correctly, that play would work. However, since
> the plays being called are not executed correctly,
> running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the logical
> conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't get
> enough effort out of the team during practice as
> Coughlin, or Bellicheck.

Well thought out, good point. This would also explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 11:07AM

More Complete Wrote:
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> FurfaxTownie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For aguments sake lets say Zorn is actually
> > calling the correct plays, and if executed
> > correctly, that play would work. However,
> since
> > the plays being called are not executed
> correctly,
> > running lanes don't open up, balls are dropped,
> > and passes are over thrown. Therefore, the
> logical
> > conclusion is there must be a problem with how
> > these guys are practicing. Maybe Zorn doesn't
> get
> > enough effort out of the team during practice
> as
> > Coughlin, or Bellicheck.
>
> Well thought out, good point. This would also
> explain the stupid penalties. Grrr.


So building plays around unreliable players isn't Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a critical end zone catch should involve him as a target. If you want to spread out the offense at mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing. But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit is idiotic.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:23AM

WTL Wrote:
>If you are calling plays you know your players can't execute, then you are >calling the wrong plays.


I'm sure plays Zorn called work great during practice against the taxi squad, and a defense half assing it. I'm sure the defensive schemes look great in practice against half assing offense. Practice isn't where the rubber meets road.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:41AM

From the Madden Simulator.
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 11:45AM

Numbers Wrote:
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> From the Madden Simulator.


Fuck that was close!

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 12:01PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:

> So building plays around unreliable players isn't
> Zorn's fault? There's a reason why some players
> are "playmakers" and some are bench warmers. Devin
> Thomas is a bench warmer. No play that involves a
> critical end zone catch should involve him as a
> target. If you want to spread out the offense at
> mid-field with four receivers, that is one thing.
> But going to two guys who can't catch worth shit
> is idiotic.

The Redskins have what every other team has. It's called a 53 man roster. Not everyone on the team is going to the pro bowl. You have to go with what you've got. Coach Zorn knows more about Devin Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and benchwarmers than you ever will. You don't support the team, we get it. Are you done?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:13PM

More Complete Wrote:

> Are you done?


LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication, we have 82 more pages to generate.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:43PM

Warhawk Wrote:
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> LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any indication,
> we have 82 more pages to generate.

Awesome!!!

Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a hell of a season. ;-)

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 01:47PM

More Complete Wrote:
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Coach Zorn knows more about Devin
> Thomas, designing plays, playmakers, and
> benchwarmers than you ever will.


You don't have the be a concert pianist to know when one is playing like shit.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 01:48PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> Warhawk Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > LOL. If the Mike O'Mera thread is any
> indication,
> > we have 82 more pages to generate.
>
> Awesome!!!
>
> Just think... it's only week 3! It's going to be a
> hell of a season. ;-)


And I venture to guess the end result will be the same.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:22PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> And I venture to guess the end result will be the
> same.


Way to go out on a limb. *rolls eyes*

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:26PM

USAToday: The Lions are finally facing someone they can beat after like 20 straight losses:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-nfl/

"If the Lions can build another double-digit lead, the ‘Skins might not be able to come back and win. And if that happens, Redskins coach Jim Zorn might not be able to come back to D.C. with his team."

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:55PM

I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will finally start revolting with thier wallets and Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: September 25, 2009 03:03PM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.


That's one thing I've never understood. With every fan I've ever talked to about Dan Snyder the conversation goes like this:

Me: Dan Snyder. What a douche.
FAN: Yeah, Dan Snyder is an idiot and I can't stand him, but at least he's willing to spend money.
Me: The Patriots don't spend nearly as much as the Skins and look at them.
Fan: True.
Me: So is Dan Snyder good for the team?
Fan: Probably not
Me: You know, if just half of the fans said "enough" with their wallets, he'd be forced to sell the team, and possibly to somebody who knows what they are doing.
Fan: Yeah, but I'm a Skins fan no matter what.
Me: Ok. Keep wallowing in mediocrity.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 03:09PM

pgens Wrote:
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> USAToday: The Lions are finally facing someone
> they can beat after like 20 straight losses:
>
> http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports-n
> fl/


An interesting factoid....

If anyone knows how to neutralize Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, it’s the man who knows him as well as anyone at the NFL level — long-time Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, now the Lions' coach.

This is going to be bad.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 03:35PM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I almost hope they lose. Then the fans will
> finally start revolting with thier wallets and
> Little Danny Snyder will have to sell the team.


They lost me. I realized during last season's swoon that this is never going to change as long as Snyder is in charge. I am now a Ravens fan. I am going to buy some Ravens gear this weekend. Fuck Snyder. Not one more dime.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:01PM

If you think Dan Snyder is going to sell the most profitable franchise in the NFL you're insane. Go buy your ghey purple rat bird gear. Better yet, just become a cowboys fan like every other bandwagon jumping loser... Snyder will be the owner of the Redskins for at least the next 15 years.



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 04:05PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> If you think Dan Snyder is going to sell the most
> profitable franchise in the NFL you're insane.

If you look at Danny Boy's numbers, almost all of his profit comes from network TV contracts and the FedEx naming rights. He isn't making a profit from fans. Once the FedEx thing expires, watch out.

> Go
> buy your ghey purple rat bird gear.


I will buy the gear of a winner. That won't be the Redskins gear. And if I buy a jersey, it will be of a future Hall of Famer. Not much of that going around at the Skins these days.

Better yet,
> just become a cowboys fan like every other
> bandwagon jumping loser...

I don't like the Cowboys. Never have. Never will.

> Snyder will be the
> owner of the Redskins for at least the next 30
> years.

Unless he is bankrupted first.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 04:12PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Unless he is bankrupted first.

His Death is about the only thing that will remove him as owner.

Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly pathetic.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 04:43PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Unless he is bankrupted first.
>
> His Death is about the only thing that will remove
> him as owner.
>
> Bandwagon fans like yourself are incredibly
> pathetic.


Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic. Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles. Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:12PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Actually, shitty owners are incredibly pathetic.
> Look at what Peter Angelos did to the Orioles.
> Those weren't "bandwagon fans" he drove away. If
> it can happen to them, it can happen to anyone.

No, I had it right. Bandwagon fans are pathetic. You don't root for the owner and being a fan isn't always about winning.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:26PM

More Complete = Dan Snyder

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 05:35PM

496 Wrote:
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> More Complete = Dan Snyder

I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not, there is no way in hell I could wear another teams jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's just the way it is.

People calling themselves fans while wanting the team to do badly in hopes that Snyder sells the team are asinine as are those who "decide" to become fans of another team.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 25, 2009 09:45PM

I've been a fan all my life as well. However, I'm not a tool, and Dan Snyder tools all the skins fans around as he pleases. The Redskins, in the end are just like any corporation and some people (such as myself) will not blindly pledge self allegiance.

I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am that Snyder is only the majority owner of the skins. Over the years he has been selling off pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the business genius he thinks he, he will start shopping the team around while its still at peak value. Because I don't think the fan base has to many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 10:13PM

More Complete Wrote:
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Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.
>


They also come in black...

nfl-baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-5-11.jpg

And white...

nfl-jerseys-Baltimore-Ravens-5.jpg

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 25, 2009 10:26PM

More Complete Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More Complete = Dan Snyder
>
> I don't like the guy but I'm certainly not going
> to jump ship because he's a douche. I've been a
> Skins fan all my life. Whether I like it or not,
> there is no way in hell I could wear another teams
> jersey. Especially a purple one (blech) and that's
> just the way it is.

So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at a Redskins' store?

FF_65508_s.jpgnfl-washington-redskins-jason-taylor-55-41-14219-P.jpgjr-chprnfl9-bjohn.gif31-38944-P.jpg

This is what Danny Boy gives fans. A whole new selection of jerseys for over-priced flops each season.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:45PM

Those Ravens jerseys are ugly as sin. Really. Purple? Gross. Plus, they suck and are really the browns, who sucked, which is how they ended up in Baltimore. But that's okay, when they really start sucking and you get mad at the owner you can just turn in your fan card and find another team too root for. That's what so great about being a bandwagon jumper!

I've never been to a Redskins store but I have three jerseys of Redskisn HOF players. How many Ratbirds are in the HOF? Oh yeah one. Great history they have.

No one is forced to buy a jersey anyway. The Ravens have made some pretty bad free agent moves themselves.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: September 25, 2009 11:51PM

FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> I've been a fan all my life as well. However, I'm
> not a tool, and Dan Snyder tools all the skins
> fans around as he pleases. The Redskins, in the
> end are just like any corporation and some people
> (such as myself) will not blindly pledge self
> allegiance.
>
> I have heard rumors on the crappy Fan or 980am
> that Snyder is only the majority owner of the
> skins. Over the years he has been selling off
> pieces of the team. If Snyder really is the
> business genius he thinks he, he will start
> shopping the team around while its still at peak
> value. Because I don't think the fan base has to
> many years of withstanding mediocrity left in it.

I'm no tool, thanks. Mind if I ask your age?

All Snyder has to do win, the fanbase is huge. You don't think he knows this? Winning in the NFL isn't easy.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 26, 2009 09:24AM

More Complete, settle down. I'm not calling you a tool, thats not what I do. But the people who, buy season tickets year after year, despite the parking fees (not all teams charge for parking), the fee for the shuttle bus after you pay to park a mile a way, the $10 dollar beers, the FedEx express delivery fee for season tickets 6 months before the season begins, the newest latest greatest authentic jersey (See WTL's previous post) for hundreds of dollars, or the guy buys "obstructed view" seats. Being doesn't mean being a lemming.


I wont disclose my age but I was around to watch live the three of skins superbowls victories. None of us can speculate on how easy it is to win the NFL but you cant argue that some people just have it figured out. Bill Parecells seems to be a winner where ever he goes. He made the cowboys and dolphins relevant again, and turned around the hapless then NE and NYJ teams. Every coach the steelers have hired has won them a superbowl.

The DC metro area is huge, after you weed out all the people not from around here, the fan base is probably large at best, i think DC is market 5. And, the fan base was booing the team last week despite winning. I'm not going the way of WTL and be a ravens fan. I'll probably just stop watching most of the games and enjoy my sundays.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 26, 2009 10:28AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> So how many of these did you buy at $100 a pop at
> a Redskins' store?


I'm embarrassed to say I have the Brunnel jersey. I got it when he first joined the Skins and hopes were high.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 26, 2009 10:45AM

More Complete,
A good fan should feel obligated to critic the team they love, that's how they get better. If everyone was a mindless sheep like you, the owners would have no reason to spend the time and money to put a good system in place and learn to stay out of football operations.

In the Skin's case, money is not the issue. It all comes down to lack of knowledge about how to build a successful franchise that wins on a consistent basis (see Pittsburg, New England, Green Bay, etc..) Jack Kent Cooke had that and it wasn't until Snyder took over that everything went south. Why? Because he sees himself as the coach and director of player personnel.

I understand that you're a Skins fan, so am I. We both want them to be good and win games that they should, but we just go about it in different ways. It's okay to criticize them when they clearly have issues. Hell, the biggest homer out there (Sonny Jurgenson) even broke down last week and bashed the silly play calls.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 26, 2009 03:27PM

The Skins won't be a success as long a Danny Boy uses too high a percentage of the salary cap to bring in "Big Names" like Fat Albert while ignoring depth on the O-Line. No team should base its success on one or two marquee names. Look how the Pats did when Brady went down. They went 11-5...because they had depth. The Skins have no depth (except with five fucking Running Backs!)

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:44AM

If these guys don't score at least 3 touchdowns today in a blowout after all the pressure there is no hope.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: ex fan ()
Date: September 27, 2009 10:25AM

Damn it. Last week CBS announced that the Patriots game would be broadcast nationwide. It wasn't. This week same announcement, but no Pats game because the Redskins are again playing at the same time. Excuse me, the Redskins will be on a football field tying up everyone's time.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: dono ()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:15AM

Redskins will be losing or barely winning - what a thrill. Id rather watch the grass grow.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:27AM

"More Complete, settle down. I'm not calling you a tool, thats not what I do."
Ok, than I will. More complete is a tool.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 27, 2009 01:41PM

So when did Dan Snyder's head explode? When Zorn tried to go for a TD on 4 and 1 and ran the same exact play that failed last week? Or when Zorn declined the penalty that would have resulted in a Lions' field goal only to result in a Lions' TD?

Zorn is obviously coaching scared.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:26PM

Did anybody read Michael Wilbons column this morning? If not, here it is. A pretty astute and damning synopsis of the ineptitude of the Redskins as an organization.

Plus they are currently losing 10-0!! LOL.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/26/AR2009092602136.html?sub=AR

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Foots ()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:28PM

This game is painful to watch!

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: True Fan ()
Date: September 27, 2009 02:53PM

The momentum has SHIFTED.

Skins WILL win.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Foots ()
Date: September 27, 2009 03:00PM

One lucky touchdown isn't a shift in momentum.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: ex fan ()
Date: September 27, 2009 03:55PM

predictable.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Mr Captcha ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:17PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet even UVA's football team could beat these Redskins!

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:18PM

NICE LOSS!!! LMAO

Almost as good as when the Cowboys went 1-15 and beat the Skins.

Have a nice flight back Zorn. Hope there's a lot of ink in the printer for your resumes.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: ex fan ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:24PM

How can you reasonably blame Zorn? It's Cerato and the ownership.....karma perhaps. Plus, a team that it not cohesive.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:30PM

It pains me to say this as a fan and a supporter of Zorn, but he has got to go. exfan, how do you not blame the coach when you look at the roster the redskins have to the roster the lions have. I do not believe this loss has just happened. Big changes need to start tomorrow morning.

I wish Zorn great luck and if we keep him I will be behind the decision. He's a class act but I also realize he may be to nice and laid back to have success with this team.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:33PM

Just one question. Why am I still a Redskins fan?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Mr Captcha ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:38PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> how do you not blame the coach when you look at the roster
> the redskins have to the roster the lions have.

Simple. When the golden boy players (*cough* *cough* Portis *cough*) have more pull with the owner than the coaches, there's no way in hell any coach could do his job effectively. Even Gibbs, the hero of the 1980s Redskins, couldn't get it done in his second go around.

This is the primary reason we won't see Cowher, Dungy, Shannahan, or any other big name coach here anytime in the near future. They know enough to stay away from Snyder's meddling ass, no matter how much money he's willing to throw at them.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: September 27, 2009 04:43PM

If Snyder fires Zorn mid-season I will renounce the Redskins and not watch another game until the Snyder era is over.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Redskins Homer ()
Date: September 27, 2009 05:30PM


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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 27, 2009 06:42PM

The real problem is with Snyder. Snyder has managed to make every coach who comes in here look bad. You can't blame Zorn for having the same record as Joe Gibbs and Marty Schottenheimer.

That said, Zorn's two calls early in the game probably blew any chance the Skins had to win. You know the saying, "Pride comes before the fall." Zorn's decision to go for a TD on 4 and 1 and the stupid decision to accept a penalty that kept the Lions' first drive alive resulted in a 7-0 score that probably would have been 3-3 and given the Skins the margin of victory. However, I think the reason Zorn made those calls was because of the pressure he's been getting from Danny Boy to score in the Red Zone. Yes, score in the Red Zone...on Third Down!

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: True Fan ()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:44PM

Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it was a simple mathematical probability that they had to win at some point. The Skins were essentially up against a runaway freight train, statistically speaking.

On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.

I know the negative nellies are going to have a field day, but things are looking UP.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: TefD187 ()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:49PM

yea looking up at the rest of the NFC East from the bottom of the standings.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:53PM

I can't help but question the last play. Why not put it in the end zone, it was the last play?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 27, 2009 06:57PM

Zorn is a nice guy and that's why he fails. This team lacks discipline and a basic understanding of the fundamentals.

When you look at the Lions roster, only 2 players are recognizable, Stafford and Johnson. The Skins have several pro bowlers and millionaires on the team and they still can't beat them. That can only come down to coaching and play calling/designing.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Mr Captcha ()
Date: September 27, 2009 07:01PM

True Fan Wrote:
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
> On the bright side, they scored a LOT more points
> than last time, with TWO touchdown passes.
>
> I know the negative nellies are going to have a
> field day, but things are looking UP.

There are no players from the other team in the end zone. The other team will never reach the end zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other team's players are committing suicide in their locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and is driving the other team's defense before it! We are destined for a Super Bowl victory!
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 27, 2009 07:03PM

Mr Captcha Wrote:
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> There are no players from the other team in the
> end zone. The other team will never reach the end
> zone! Our defense is crushing them! The other
> team's players are committing suicide in their
> locker rooms. Our offense cannot be stopped and
> is driving the other team's defense before it! We
> are destined for a Super Bowl victory!


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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: -,SBS,- ()
Date: September 27, 2009 08:55PM

True Fan Wrote:
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> Given the length of Detroit's losing streak, it
> was a simple mathematical probability that they
> had to win at some point. The Skins were
> essentially up against a runaway freight train,
> statistically speaking.
>
Statistically speaking, the odds of Detroit winning or losing TODAY had nothing to do with their losing streak.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 27, 2009 08:55PM

Caught this interview clip on WTOP on my way back from Philly tonite.

John Riggins is fucking great, lol.

Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website. If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.



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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:17PM

Guess we won't be hearing Riggo anytime soon on ESPN 980, huh?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:32PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> Guess we won't be hearing Riggo anytime soon on
> ESPN 980, huh?


We were laughing so hard I thought I might have to pull over.

Riggins has balls, I think it's great.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 27, 2009 09:34PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> I can't help but question the last play. Why not
> put it in the end zone, it was the last play?


I have a guess. Zorn figured it would fail regardless. He wanted to protect Campbell's QB rating because Zorn was a QB himself.

Look at it from Zorn's perspective. His top receiver from his playing days is in the Hall of Fame. He is not. If you look at Zorn's stats, it's because he threw so many picks.

I think he is being overly fatherly to Campbell in terms of not throwing picks, so that's why you didn't get the shot into the end zone.

In contrast, did you see the highlights form the Vikings/49ers game? Favre threw a TD with 10 seconds left by hitting a receiver in the back of the End Zone.

Similar circumstances. Different outcome.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Mr Captcha ()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:36PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Caught this interview clip on WTOP on my way back
> from Philly tonite.
>
> John Riggins is fucking great, lol.
>
> Edit: for some reason the mp3 wouldn't upload, but
> you can hear the whole thing on WTOP's website.
> If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes right
> out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.

Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...
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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 27, 2009 09:38PM

News flash the Redskins are an expansion team!

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Date: September 27, 2009 09:38PM

Mr Captcha Wrote:
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>
> > If you forward to around 3:20, Riggins comes
> right
> > out and calls Snyder "a loser". Funny shit.
>
> Here it is, straight from the horse's mouth...


Riggo is right. It doesn't matter who the Coach is or who the QB is. The results will be the same. Snyder creates a culture of failure at the team. Period.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: September 27, 2009 11:31PM

As sung by Vinne Cerrato.

Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountain side
The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow
Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow
'Tis I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.

And if you come, when all the flowers are dying
And I am dead, as dead I well may be
You'll come and find the place where I am lying
And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me.

And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me
And all my dreams will warm and sweeter be
If you'll not fail to tell me that you love me
I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.

I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me.

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: September 28, 2009 12:06AM

Does anyone else feel like this is a low point in Skins history? Even when they went 0-15 I didn't feel this depressed and I can't figure out why.

It may be that they've been mediocre for so long and this season is just more of the same or it may be that I know in my heart that Jason Campbell will never amount to more than a 2nd or 3rd string backup QB. It could also be that Snyder has built an impenetrable dome of failure around the Skins and that his coke slut is out of his depth.

After the game, I was inundated with calls from friends and family asking how it felt to be the laughing stock of the NFL. It seems like they've lost all credibility.

What I know for sure is I'm at a low point as a Skins fan. Are you?

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Re: The Offical 2009 Redskins Thread
Posted by: FurfaxTownie ()
Date: September 28, 2009 07:49AM

The good news we don't have watch little spoiled Danny boy (aka Tom Thumb) jump and down for joy after a victory. I can't stand that guy so much, I almost relish the losses as much the wins.

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Could local NFL team stink any worse
Posted by: Thomas More ()
Date: September 28, 2009 07:54AM

Snider sucks. FedEx Field sucks. As long as Snider's the owner, the local NFL team will suck. But until folks stop going to games, stop buying their jerseys, stop watching on tv, Snider will continue to suck.

They lost to Detroit. Only the worst franchise in the NFL for the last 50 years.

Detroit. Seriously, Detroit. Lowly, pathetic Detroit.

They lost to a team that won 0 games last year. 0-19 Detroit.

Could it get any worse?

Yeah, they could lose to Virginia or Maryland.

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