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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: HeatMeister ()
Date: January 29, 2014 08:34AM

I find that any open flame works best. Light up!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Homie D Clown ()
Date: January 29, 2014 10:35PM

I just run an extension cord from the neighbors house to a space heater in my mom's basement. All is toasty down in my room!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Energy Freak 2.0 ()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:09AM

Give me a break. So heat pumps suck - I make no money unless I can sell them. So bear with my transparent, dumbass sales pitch that pretends using coal-generated electricity is somehow better for the environment than clean natural gas heating. Also, just ignore the fact that a heat pump blows cool air and leaves you shivering. Some people really are stupid enough to believe my pitch and buy a heat pump from me! Isn't America great?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Joe blow ()
Date: January 30, 2014 09:51AM

A fart and a match stick.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: YvGUp ()
Date: January 30, 2014 11:10PM

I forgot to mention that steam-electric generation is 33-50% efficient. This is ignoring the transmission loses.

So while you can use electricity to move heat around efficiently, it will be more efficient for some groups to just burn the fossil fuel directly since they will be able to get >80% efficiency conversion of fuel into heat.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Captain s Obvious ()
Date: January 31, 2014 12:32AM

YvGUp Wrote:
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> I forgot to mention that steam-electric generation
> is 33-50% efficient. This is ignoring the
> transmission loses.
>
> So while you can use electricity to move heat
> around efficiently, it will be more efficient for
> some groups to just burn the fossil fuel directly
> since they will be able to get >80% efficiency
> conversion of fuel into heat.

Yeah, after about three others already mentioned it. Lazy moron should learn to read.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Burke Brat ()
Date: January 31, 2014 01:12AM

I personally use a few systems. I have a Gas Furnace for Emergency Use (If Wood stoves go out and Laundry Room reaches 50 Gas Kicks on), I have Gas Cooking and Water heater. I have 2 wood stoves and use about 5 cords of wood a season (wood is from neighbors who have trees cut down) Wood is 10x cleaner than Natural Gas, its renewable and the ashes go into the yard and garden. I have a Generator for Emergency Backup which is enough to power the Gas Furnace if needed. My Typical Gas Bill is $35.00 a month. Electric is running about $170.00 (Plasma t.v. is Energy Hog along with 5 computers running 24/7 and a Radiator heater keeping my Lemon and Orange trees alive in the greenhouse, and 2 Freezers and 2 Fridges running.) Generator is 8 kw. During the Durachio I powered my House (No A/C but its 2 level and Brick, Block 1st level) along with 2 other neighbors Fridges via extension cords. I can take a Hot Shower during a blackout, Cook Manually since Electronic Ignition wont work w/o the generator. I also store 500 Gallons of Rain Water for Garden purposes after Freeze chances are gone.

The wood is a pain but knowing I am in control makes me feel better, and its exercise all year long, Wood Delivered, I split, Move and Stack and then bring in all winter. I also enjoy using the cast iron on the free standing wood stove to cook, or simmer chili or stew. I have the ability and equipment to clean the chimneys each month making sure the family is safe. The hardest part is Regulation of the heat, most of the time its 90 degrees on the second level (A/C and Heat Thermostats are split 2nd level kicks on Blower for A/c with Compressor disconnected at 90 and gas comes on below 50 on 1st level). The past few weeks have been hard with the sub temps, but I know the Gas wont break us and we don't have to be cold, at 6 am its usually 75 in the master bedroom.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: A man's home is his anchor....er ()
Date: January 31, 2014 04:48AM

Burke Brat Wrote:
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> I personally use a few systems. I have a Gas
> Furnace for Emergency Use (If Wood stoves go out
> and Laundry Room reaches 50 Gas Kicks on), I have
> Gas Cooking and Water heater. I have 2 wood stoves
> and use about 5 cords of wood a season (wood is
> from neighbors who have trees cut down) Wood is
> 10x cleaner than Natural Gas, its renewable and
> the ashes go into the yard and garden. I have a
> Generator for Emergency Backup which is enough to
> power the Gas Furnace if needed. My Typical Gas
> Bill is $35.00 a month. Electric is running about
> $170.00 (Plasma t.v. is Energy Hog along with 5
> computers running 24/7 and a Radiator heater
> keeping my Lemon and Orange trees alive in the
> greenhouse, and 2 Freezers and 2 Fridges running.)
> Generator is 8 kw. During the Durachio I powered
> my House (No A/C but its 2 level and Brick, Block
> 1st level) along with 2 other neighbors Fridges
> via extension cords. I can take a Hot Shower
> during a blackout, Cook Manually since Electronic
> Ignition wont work w/o the generator. I also store
> 500 Gallons of Rain Water for Garden purposes
> after Freeze chances are gone.
>
> The wood is a pain but knowing I am in control
> makes me feel better, and its exercise all year
> long, Wood Delivered, I split, Move and Stack and
> then bring in all winter. I also enjoy using the
> cast iron on the free standing wood stove to cook,
> or simmer chili or stew. I have the ability and
> equipment to clean the chimneys each month making
> sure the family is safe. The hardest part is
> Regulation of the heat, most of the time its 90
> degrees on the second level (A/C and Heat
> Thermostats are split 2nd level kicks on Blower
> for A/c with Compressor disconnected at 90 and gas
> comes on below 50 on 1st level). The past few
> weeks have been hard with the sub temps, but I
> know the Gas wont break us and we don't have to be
> cold, at 6 am its usually 75 in the master
> bedroom.


And a tornado pays a visit to your house.
There was no place like home.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: I M Comfortable ()
Date: January 31, 2014 04:53AM

Well it is true that heat pumps are by far the most efficient way to heat and anyone who understands high school physics can tell you that. I have found the dual fuel gas furnace to be the best of both worlds. My gas furnace has been doing all the work during this cold snap and I love it even if it is bad for the environment. I get in my 20 mpg truck and go on road trips just for the hell of it sometimes too, fuck it , life is short.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Buy American ()
Date: January 31, 2014 06:23PM

I M Comfortable Wrote:
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> Well it is true that heat pumps are by far the
> most efficient way to heat and anyone who
> understands high school physics can tell you that.
> I have found the dual fuel gas furnace to be the
> best of both worlds. My gas furnace has been doing
> all the work during this cold snap and I love it
> even if it is bad for the environment. I get in my
> 20 mpg truck and go on road trips just for the
> hell of it sometimes too, fuck it , life is short.

20 mpg? You must drive a Toyota. Buy a real truck when you gain employment.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Ye Ole Woodson Man ()
Date: January 31, 2014 10:00PM

Natural Gas all the way. No Heat pumps for me. 2100 Sq foot house two story with crawl space My bill Dec 18-Jan 21 14, was 188.00 Pr4ior Nov 15-Dec 18 150.00.

And that was some damn cold weather. Lately the last two weeks, I have been burning 10 ccf of nat gas a day, Thats a lot. at the at rate my bill will be 330 for the monthe but its warming up at last! And of course its been low digets in the am teens at night 30's 20's for what two weeks stright.

This has been a cold Jan. for sure. My house has double pane glass late 80's and though its not as good as todays double pane insulated windows beats the single pane glass by a mile I have 1 Inch insulation foam underCedar siding then 4 inches of regular insulation on the walls thenthe drywall and the wall feel cool but never cold with the furnace 100K Btu keeping the house at 76 degrees.Upstairs even a bit more, When it warms up I will turn it down.

I have been in many heat pump homes drafy no good in really cold weather. Only good out in the country where there is no Nat Gas. And be ready for a huge electric bill.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: gas kills ()
Date: February 01, 2014 08:27AM

I used to work for washington gas and I will NEVER live in a house with gas supplied to it. I have seen people blown up, burned and killed with carbon monoxide poisoning and those are the lucky ones. Others get brain damage from the carbon monoxide and spend the rest of their days at a state mental hospital. Heat pumps all the way for me baby!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Dr. Livingstone ()
Date: February 01, 2014 05:36PM

gas kills Wrote:
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> I used to work for washington gas and I will NEVER
> live in a house with gas supplied to it. I have
> seen people blown up, burned and killed with
> carbon monoxide poisoning and those are the lucky
> ones. Others get brain damage from the carbon
> monoxide and spend the rest of their days at a
> state mental hospital. Heat pumps all the way for
> me baby!

Sounds like you're one of those mental hospital patients. Hope they're able to help you!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: What Stupid People ()
Date: February 01, 2014 06:40PM

"Ban gas stoves, furnaces, water heaters , bad for the environment" ..Typical liberal statements from the well off liberal crowd. F. your 8000 $$$$ + heat pumps and sky high $$$$ replacement costs as well as your drafty ass houses.

And run these electic hogs on what. Closed down coal mines, no coal electric powerplants ?? What! windmills, solar panels, we all would freeze to death.

Now take your asses trekking world wide putting out every wood fire/cook fire /heating fire you see with a waterbucket as its good for the environment and leave us with gas heat alone.

Its there way or the highway so they Wish.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: btu consumer ()
Date: November 15, 2014 11:14AM

This was a very informative thread. I think the best answer for heating in Fairfax is the dual fuel heat pump. Use the heat pump 85% of the time and enjoy efficiency that a gas furnace cannot even come close to. Cut on that toasty warm gas furnace when the outdoor temps drop into the twenty's or any time you feel a chill and just want that blast of heat. Screw oil, it smells bad.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: 1912 Old Town ()
Date: November 15, 2014 11:43AM

Steam FTW!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: DQ... ()
Date: November 15, 2014 02:38PM

Unless you live in Yellowstone Park, you are going to have to produce that steam somehow. Any ideas?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hey dumbfuck ()
Date: November 15, 2014 02:40PM

DQ... Wrote:
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> Unless you live in Yellowstone Park, you are going
> to have to produce that steam somehow. Any ideas?


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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: DQ... ()
Date: November 15, 2014 03:39PM

So, all you need is a steam valve, huh? That's brilliant! Just fucking brilliant!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: superheat city ()
Date: November 15, 2014 04:12PM

DQ... Wrote:
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> So, all you need is a steam valve, huh? That's
> brilliant! Just fucking brilliant!


Yeah! Aint you heard about the fucking magic steam valve? Just pipe it in and it produces steam all by its fucking self! Gone are the days where you had to burn gas, oil, wood or coal to make steam. The magic valve does it all! Get the magic valve for just 27 payments of $33.33. Call in the next hour and we will double the offer!

Call now 1-800-DUM-BASS

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hey dumbass ()
Date: November 15, 2014 04:17PM

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: long haul paul ()
Date: November 16, 2014 07:13AM

Long haul Paul here.

I am on the road quite a bit and I spend less than 100 nights a year at home but I love my heat pump. It is old but has never let me down.

See you on the interstate!

LHP 10-10 on the side.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: townhouse mouse ()
Date: December 05, 2014 08:29PM

Heat pump with good insulation is the only way to go in NOVA. As a previous poster pointed out good insulation is the real key to energy savings. I ditched my gas furnace in 2009 and got a heat pump, best decision I ever made.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat Pumps Suck ()
Date: December 05, 2014 09:45PM

Way too expensive to replace VS a gas furnace. You like a drafty house get a heat pump. Come home cold, get a heat pump. You like paying a ransom to Dominion get a heat pump. Natural Gas is the only way to go.
Turn it on , turn it up warm up , turn it down simple.. Thats all there is too it. Heat pumps are Ok for the country but thats it only a idiot would have one over a gas furnace if they have access to Natural Gas. Electric stoves are a different issue some like the electric stoves, some like the gas. For Heat Gas wins! Hands down!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: global cooling ()
Date: December 06, 2014 05:49AM

btu consumer Wrote:
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> This was a very informative thread. I think the
> best answer for heating in Fairfax is the dual
> fuel heat pump. Use the heat pump 85% of the time
> and enjoy efficiency that a gas furnace cannot
> even come close to. Cut on that toasty warm gas
> furnace when the outdoor temps drop into the
> twenty's or any time you feel a chill and just
> want that blast of heat. Screw oil, it smells bad.


I guess that would be okay but I have had bad experiences with gas heat. The high surface temperature of a gas heat exchanger dries the air out in my home really bad. We tried adding a whole house humidifier but mold grew inside it and we all got very sick. Our heat pump has been by far the most comfortable and most economical heating system we have ever had. I have no experience with oil heat however.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: December 06, 2014 08:25AM

btu consumer Wrote:
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> This was a very informative thread. I think the
> best answer for heating in Fairfax is the dual
> fuel heat pump. Use the heat pump 85% of the time
> and enjoy efficiency that a gas furnace cannot
> even come close to. Cut on that toasty warm gas
> furnace when the outdoor temps drop into the
> twenty's or any time you feel a chill and just
> want that blast of heat. Screw oil, it smells bad.

^^ This

Coldest days are too much for heat pump alone.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: mXhcM ()
Date: December 06, 2014 09:28AM

High SEER heat pump with gas backup is the best configuration for this area or most colder climates.

So if you already have gas installed, this is the most efficient configuration.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: jF6FE ()
Date: December 07, 2014 12:06PM


USING YOUR $100K/YR GOV PAYCHECK DONT GIVE A SHIT THE PRICE



that how real men in fx co pay it

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: global cooling ()
Date: December 07, 2014 01:59PM

jF6FE Wrote:
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>


> USING YOUR $100K/YR GOV PAYCHECK DONT GIVE A SHIT
> THE PRICE
>


>
> that how real men in fx co pay it


If you only make 100 grand a year you need to be damn careful with your money.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: boiler man ()
Date: December 07, 2014 07:37PM

superheat city Wrote:
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> DQ... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, all you need is a steam valve, huh? That's
> > brilliant! Just fucking brilliant!
>
>
> Yeah! Aint you heard about the fucking magic steam
> valve? Just pipe it in and it produces steam all
> by its fucking self! Gone are the days where you
> had to burn gas, oil, wood or coal to make steam.
> The magic valve does it all! Get the magic valve
> for just 27 payments of $33.33. Call in the next
> hour and we will double the offer!
>
> Call now 1-800-DUM-BASS


Funny! People are stupid.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Vixis ()
Date: December 07, 2014 09:29PM

We had a new hybrid system installed, its oil/electric. it's called a Regal Ecmhybrid Synergy The electric heat pump is used until temps outside hit 36 degrees, when it goes below that then the oil takes over. We definitely saw a big change in our electric bills since having it installed. We also have a digital thermometer that is timed, the times we are home the temp is 70. When we are out of the house at work and asleep, the temp goes down to 65. Here is the link for you to check out: http://wetheadmedia.com/regal-hybrid-synergy-heating-oil-fired-furnaces-review/

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hairy homeowner ()
Date: February 14, 2015 10:51AM

We switched to heat pump from gas 2 years ago. Heat pumps are the only way to go in this area.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: You Suckers You Can Keep It ()
Date: February 14, 2015 11:50AM

Heat Pumps Suck! Drafty house in cold weather, takes forever to heat up a house, become a slave to Dominion Power and pay 2X times what a gas furnace costs to replace.

Heat pumps are for suckers Ready Flame Wins Again!

A small generator a transfer switch and power goes to the furnace motor and control with 110 20 amp current and you stay warm as Heat Pumpers freeze their asses off

Read This from a thread here on FXU

Longterm power outages tomorrow

Posted by: Dominion guy ()

Date: February 14, 2015 08:50AM


The current situation with the power grid is going to put the northern Virginia area in a bad position with regards to power outages. The power from the central PA plants is being diverted to the new England area because some power generation plants in that area are off line due to weather conditions. If we lose our feed from the south there is going to be real trouble. Area hospitals and emergency service buildings are being advised to top off their generator fuel tanks today. The winds predicted for tomorrow combined with high demand for power is going to put us at risk.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat Pumps are great! ()
Date: February 14, 2015 12:06PM

The only thing good about heat pumps is I make great money servicing and maintaining them. Ask your service technician what type of heat his house utilizes and 90% will tell you gas.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Cold day today ()
Date: February 14, 2015 12:17PM

Love my furnace, took my home from 64 to 72 today in less than 10 minutes.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: frostbit fred ()
Date: February 14, 2015 01:45PM

Heat pumps in the 80s and 90s did suck but the new ones are awesome. I guess the fact that you can run a gas furnace off a small generator is a big plus if the power goes out. I have a wood-stove in my basement that I rarely use but I might fire it up tonight, got wood from last winter that needs to be burned up. I sure hope the power does not go out!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 14, 2015 01:52PM

hairy homeowner Wrote:
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> We switched to heat pump from gas 2 years ago.
> Heat pumps are the only way to go in this area.

Not having gas on our street, gas isn't an option for us, but I'd be interested to know why someone who switched from gas is saying this. NOT trying to start a flamewar, just that I've always heard "Gas feels warmer, is faster", etc.

So as an academic discussion, what do you prefer about a heat pump?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: furnace guy in fairfax ()
Date: February 14, 2015 01:55PM

What is your electric bill like?

Furnace and gas water heater, gas was $120 last month.

Electricity was $60


4 people, 2,000 sqft, 40 year old home.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hairy homeowner ()
Date: February 14, 2015 02:53PM

Greybeard Wrote:
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> hairy homeowner Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We switched to heat pump from gas 2 years ago.
> > Heat pumps are the only way to go in this area.
>
> Not having gas on our street, gas isn't an option
> for us, but I'd be interested to know why someone
> who switched from gas is saying this. NOT trying
> to start a flamewar, just that I've always heard
> "Gas feels warmer, is faster", etc.
>
> So as an academic discussion, what do you prefer
> about a heat pump?


In our case the decision to make our home all electric was an emotional one after losing two close family members to a malfunctioning gas furnace. We already had an electric range and dryer so all we had to replace was the water heater and furnace. Our heat pump preheats the water to our water heater in the summer with the waste heat from the air conditioning and because our heat pump is geothermal it never has to defrost and the backup heaters never come on. It is very comfortable in the house and our utility bills are about 30% less than they were with gas. Our humidity stays higher in the winter also so no need for a humidifier.
We still have the rack for the gas meter on the side of the house and I have been thinking of getting a natural gas generator. The generator would be safe as it does all its combustion outside.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: shit happens, waa waaa waaaa ()
Date: February 14, 2015 02:57PM

I sold my car, it was an emotional decisions, after losing two close family members in a car accident. Now I take the bus and just use uber.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: inside man ()
Date: February 14, 2015 08:25PM

I love my heat pump.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Dr Heat ()
Date: February 14, 2015 09:48PM

You'd be a moron to choose anything other than gas if you can get it.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: I "LOVE" Heat Pumps ()
Date: February 14, 2015 10:25PM

>So as an academic discussion, what do you prefer about a heat pump?

Well its been covered above but,

For Starters I like the much higher replacement cost of a heat pump as its a AC and a heat unit, I like to throw hard earned money away. With a gas furnace and conventional Ac you can replace one or the other much cheaper

Then of course the drafts in my home that a heat pump cannot compensate for.

Then theres the electric bill I love to give the electric company 400 dollars a month + in the winter.

If my house is cold when I come home because I kept the T sat down a bit I love how long it takes to heat up as I shiver.

And if the grid goes down with this new storm I will adore freezing my ass off or driving the hell out of the area. As no generator can save your ass with a heat pump unless its got Caterpiller's name on the engine and can "pump" out a solid 220V 40 amp min. output.

Of course P.M. regular maintenance is much higher with a heat pump. So Many wonderful expensive things to go wrong WOW!

If your out in the boondocks with no gas a Heat pump is great for those with deep pockets, It beats the hell out of fuel oil furnaces or electric base board heat and i would take a fuel oil furnace over the base board $$ heat, but If you have access to gas and you got a heat pump, its just money.. Oh Well.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat pump LoLz ()
Date: February 15, 2015 10:55AM

My heat pump hasn't been able to get my home past 65 today, it's been running for the past 20 hours straight.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hairy homeowner ()
Date: February 15, 2015 11:24AM

furnace guy in fairfax Wrote:
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> What is your electric bill like?
>
> Furnace and gas water heater, gas was $120 last
> month.
>
> Electricity was $60
>
>
> 4 people, 2,000 sqft, 40 year old home.


Man that is a lot of money you are wasting.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: gas furnace FTW ()
Date: February 15, 2015 11:26AM

$180 a month vs $400+ for the heat pump users

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: warm but concerned ()
Date: February 15, 2015 08:11PM

How do you make gas heat as safe as possible?
What kind of configuration for venting, etc? What do we need to do to minimize carbon monoxide? The system was installed by a certified contractor and serviced, but I still have my doubts/concerns. Is there any reputable environmental/health testing company?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Well You Start ()
Date: February 15, 2015 08:41PM

By having the unit installed by a "certified contractor" . A licensed professional HVAC contractor and there are plenty of them , Installing a gas furnace is not a DIY project although it may be possible But if its got a AC coil that means charging that system and the license to buy the refrigerent.. On and On.. You hire a HVAC company.

The installation will be inspected by FX Co. and a permit will be required for the install.

As far as carbon monoxide is concerned it is a serious subject not to be taken lightly but when you hear about these events you will find rotton out units patch jobs. A professionally installed system will give many years of use and there are no pilot lights today as the gas and ignition systems are electronic as well as the heat controls.

If you have a system and are scared buy a CO2 detector for peace of mind, hire another HVAC tech to inspect your unit and get a second opinion.


Now a true Horror story. I bought a 4Br house for 185K in Fredericksburg Va 4 years ago. Short Sale as many were. The people I bought from paid close to 350K before the fall out.When they bought the house the furnace was original and was replaced as it was 20 years old. They had the house 5 years during that time they had headaches, got sick, the husband lost his job, they lost the house. The furnace is in the crawl space under the house , no basement. The installer from a well know company installed the furnace upside down,or the heat exchanger inside upside down. They can be installed up draft upwards, down draft down wards, horizontial left/ horizontal right sideways but not upside down sideways. The result was CO2 was leaking into the house and made them sick. I understand they sued the installer. I had a inspector look over the furnace well before I bought the house and have never had a problem.

So do the same have a reputable inspector look it over.

In any event this month will be my highest gas bill about 250 dollars, 109 for my electric as I have a electric water heater

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: cT7TP ()
Date: February 15, 2015 09:58PM

In this kind of weather there is just isn't enough heat in the air outside. I think a heat pump with a geothermal loop would probably be the best compromise around here.

Or burn wood and shorten the carbon cycle.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 15, 2015 10:03PM

Well You Start Wrote:
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> In any event this month will be my highest gas
> bill about 250 dollars, 109 for my electric as I
> have a electric water heater

Again, just askin' -- why electric water heater when you have gas? Just because that's what was there when you bought? If it dies, would you replace it with gas?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Stoichiometry ()
Date: February 15, 2015 10:07PM

Well You Start Wrote:
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> As far as carbon monoxide...
>
> If you have a system and are scared buy a CO2
> detector for peace of mind...


carbon monoxide = CO

carbon dioxide = CO2

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Beggars Cant Be Choosers But ()
Date: February 15, 2015 10:27PM

>Just because that's what was there when you bought? If it dies, would you replace it with gas?

No because the water heater is in a utilty room, closet really with bifold doors off the breakfast room with the washer and dryer in the middle of the house and venting the flue would be a major problem. The electric water heater works fine its about 7 years old now if it goes its a easy cheap replacement fr me, I have had it out about 15 times doing work in that area draining it pulling it out , refilling and reconnecting. It does cost me about 40 dollars a month vs 32 estimated for gas. Its a 50 gal water heater. If I had it my way I would have built the house with a proper utilty room with the furnace and water heater in the space. But I will say the difference between a gas water heater and electric is only maybe 12 dollars a month in cost for me, and the electric is way easier to deal with, no gas piping, flue. Furnaces are a much different issue. I would not have bought the house if it had a heat pump. I had gas heat in my apt in Fairfax 30+ years and I like the flame as well as a gas stove for the controlability of the flame.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 15, 2015 10:46PM

Thanks. I've lived with oil heat (radiators) and heat pumps, never actually had gas (well, I've "had gas", but not gas heat!).

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Laughing Now ()
Date: February 15, 2015 11:44PM

All the heat pump fanboys are wishing they had gas heat now. Toasty warm here with gas, bitches!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: The real Billy Whack! ()
Date: February 16, 2015 12:01AM

Yep, heat pumps are useless and for FAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Laughing Now Wrote:
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> All the heat pump fanboys are wishing they had gas
> heat now. Toasty warm here with gas, bitches!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: lovin me heat pump ()
Date: February 16, 2015 04:56AM

Heat pump is the only way to go in virginia provided you have a well insulated house. Right now it's 11 degrees outside and my little heat pump is keeping the house at 72 degrees without any backup heat.
Gas furnaces are potentially dangerous as well as being potentially unhealthy.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat Pumper ()
Date: February 16, 2015 04:35PM

The only people who would recommend a heat pump are the sleazy scumbags who sell them. Guaranteed that every poster here who recommended them here has a vested interest in promoting heat pumps.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 16, 2015 07:41PM

Heat Pumper Wrote:
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> The only people who would recommend a heat pump
> are the sleazy scumbags who sell them. Guaranteed
> that every poster here who recommended them here
> has a vested interest in promoting heat pumps.

Yeah, the pro-HP folks here seem to be saying either (a) "It's working for me" (which of course doesn't mean gas wouldn't work *better*) or (b) "I'm paranoid about CO1 (damnit!) poisoning", which reflects typical inability to evaluate risk. The folks who get killed by CO are typically ignorant of the risk (which anyone who's paranoid about it isn't, by definition) and with cheap detectors, the chances of anyone who isn't ignorant dying are pretty darned low.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: energy consumer2 ()
Date: September 20, 2015 03:05PM

This thread came up in a search for heat pump or gas in fairfax. Sounds like there are very different opinions out there lol!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Alan Ghore ()
Date: November 15, 2015 02:50AM

We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood burning heaters. This will help the environment.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: 970 btu's per cubic foot ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:24AM

Alan Ghore Wrote:
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> We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood burning
> heaters. This will help the environment.


Feel free to keep your bullshit laws off my gas furnace and poorly insulated house.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: 7 Billion Plus And Counting ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:59PM

>We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood burning heaters. This will help the environment.

200 Thousand Syrians Heading our way .To "Light US Up" And this Green Idiot is Shilling about the environment?? Billions world wide burning wood and coal.. But the American people need to take it up the ass with "Green Energy" to make Billionaires out of Green Energy Hacks..And Freeze our asses off with Windmill generated "Obama Heat"

Simply Put... F. You.. And Your "Obama Heat" or "Obama Energy"

Just keep that "Obama Gas" coming. F The Rest..

DAJAX

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: martinC ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:31AM

7 Billion Plus And Counting Wrote:
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> >We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood
> burning heaters. This will help the environment.
>
> 200 Thousand Syrians Heading our way .To "Light US
> Up" And this Green Idiot is Shilling about the
> environment?? Billions world wide burning wood and
> coal.. But the American people need to take it up
> the ass with "Green Energy" to make Billionaires
> out of Green Energy Hacks..And Freeze our asses
> off with Windmill generated "Obama Heat"
>
> Simply Put... F. You.. And Your "Obama Heat" or
> "Obama Energy"
>
> Just keep that "Obama Gas" coming. F The Rest..
>
> DAJAX


You are making no sense.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: OPEC ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:35AM

7 Billion Plus And Counting Wrote:
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> >We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood
> burning heaters. This will help the environment.
>
> 200 Thousand Syrians Heading our way .To "Light US
> Up" And this Green Idiot is Shilling about the
> environment?? Billions world wide burning wood and
> coal.. But the American people need to take it up
> the ass with "Green Energy" to make Billionaires
> out of Green Energy Hacks..And Freeze our asses
> off with Windmill generated "Obama Heat"
>
> Simply Put... F. You.. And Your "Obama Heat" or
> "Obama Energy"
>
> Just keep that "Obama Gas" coming. F The Rest..
>
> DAJAX

Yes, you tell them!

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 16, 2015 06:57AM

7 Billion Plus And Counting Wrote:
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> >We need to ban all gas, oil, coal and wood
> burning heaters. This will help the environment.
>
> 200 Thousand Syrians Heading our way .To "Light US
> Up" And this Green Idiot is Shilling about the
> environment?? Billions world wide burning wood and
> coal.. But the American people need to take it up
> the ass with "Green Energy" to make Billionaires
> out of Green Energy Hacks..And Freeze our asses
> off with Windmill generated "Obama Heat"
>
> Simply Put... F. You.. And Your "Obama Heat" or
> "Obama Energy"
>
> Just keep that "Obama Gas" coming. F The Rest..
>
> DAJAX

Isn't there some Lamb Center thread you should be posting on?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Prof Heat ()
Date: November 16, 2015 08:23AM

Heat Pumper Wrote:
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> The only people who would recommend a heat pump
> are the sleazy scumbags who sell them. Guaranteed
> that every poster here who recommended them here
> has a vested interest in promoting heat pumps.

^This.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: heat pump man ()
Date: November 16, 2015 08:45AM

Cold day today Wrote:
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> Love my furnace, took my home from 64 to 72 today
> in less than 10 minutes.


My heat pump can do that in 3 minutes and 18 seconds.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: crank it up ()
Date: January 14, 2016 09:52AM

I switched from gas to heat pump 10 years ago. Best move I ever made. The heat pump paid for itself in 6 years.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat Pump Advocate ()
Date: January 14, 2016 09:57AM

Heat pumps are great, just so long as you don't need them for heating.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Heat Pumps for Dummies #101 ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:23PM

crank it up Wrote:
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> I switched from gas to heat pump 10 years ago.
> Best move I ever made. The heat pump paid for
> itself in 6 years.

Did the heat pump find gainful employment?

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: JJDJM ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:41PM

crank it up Wrote:
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> I switched from gas to heat pump 10 years ago.
> Best move I ever made. The heat pump paid for
> itself in 6 years.


Very doubtful with the cost of gas vs electricity over that time, especially in recent years. Unless maybe you had a horribly inefficient old gas furnace which in that case it's not really a valid comparison.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Dave Lover ()
Date: February 12, 2016 06:34AM

Loving my Lennox heat pump this morning! 74 degrees in the house with no back up heat running at all. These new heat pumps are amazing and so inexpensive to run. Lennox heat pumps are made in America too! One of the few things made in America that is worth a shit.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hank h. ()
Date: February 12, 2016 09:04AM

No love for propane heat or propane accessories? (/s)

I found this interesting article on fuel options... just click the arrow to see the other 3...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2012/1207/Cheapest-way-to-heat-your-home-Four-fuels-compared/Heating-oil-2-526

TL;DR


4. heating oil
3. propane
2. electric
1. natural gas

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: February 12, 2016 11:52AM

Dave Lover Wrote:
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> Loving my Lennox heat pump this morning! 74
> degrees in the house with no back up heat running
> at all. These new heat pumps are amazing and so
> inexpensive to run. Lennox heat pumps are made in
> America too! One of the few things made in America
> that is worth a shit.

Neighbor has two of them for his new McMansion. Both have been running nonstop since the cold wave hit.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Lennox sux ()
Date: February 12, 2016 02:02PM

You couldn't give me a free Lennox heat pump.

We had our second service call today, 18 months after installation. This time it was a "faulty pressure valve". The technician told me that this was a common failure with this generation of furnace, and billed me for 3 hours (including travel time to pick up the part). While Lennox replaced the part for free, it was clear after speaking to their consumer affairs representative that they feel no responsibility for selling a crap.

I am convinced the system is a lemon. I will NEVER purchase another Lennox product. I would rather cool my home with a block of ice and a fan before buying an unreliable Lennox Product.

During winter time compressors sounded like screaming banshees. Was told by serviceman that they were scroll type and was normal. Yeah ok. So loud, next to master bedroom wall, had units moved to other end of house. Upstairs air handler replaced within last 5 years, other noises from compressor sounded like a bag of cans rattling in the quiet of night. Serviceman said was compressor bearings going bad. Ok. Meanwhile have had outdoor unit fan replaced, numerous capacitor failures etc,etc.

I have two Lennox furnaces and air conditioning units. Continual furnace repairs including the printed circuit boards. With my recent heater problems I have called two Lennox dealers and they both have told me that they have heard my complaint many times. They were nice enough to tell me not to hire them as they have given up on trying to repair my type of furnace. My response is to never buy a Lennox product when the Lennox dealers say they can't repair the product.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/lennox.html

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hvac guy ()
Date: February 12, 2016 02:05PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Dave Lover Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Loving my Lennox heat pump this morning! 74
> > degrees in the house with no back up heat
> running
> > at all. These new heat pumps are amazing and so
> > inexpensive to run. Lennox heat pumps are made
> in
> > America too! One of the few things made in
> America
> > that is worth a shit.
>
> Neighbor has two of them for his new McMansion.
> Both have been running nonstop since the cold wave
> hit.


That is what they should be doing in this type of weather. They are actually a little more efficient in colder weather since colder air contains very little moisture they do not have to run the defrost cycle nearly as much as say a 40 degree day.
Heat pumps are great but if you live in an old drafty, poorly insulated house like most of us do you are better off with gas. For newly built homes heat pumps are the only way to go.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Switched to gas years ago ()
Date: February 12, 2016 05:19PM

NOT heat pump - that system works better further south than here.....in very cold weather it goes to electric only and that will cost you bucks.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Townhouse landlord ()
Date: February 12, 2016 08:49PM

Lennox sux Wrote:
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> You couldn't give me a free Lennox heat pump.
>
> We had our second service call today, 18 months
> after installation. This time it was a "faulty
> pressure valve". The technician told me that this
> was a common failure with this generation of
> furnace, and billed me for 3 hours (including
> travel time to pick up the part). While Lennox
> replaced the part for free, it was clear after
> speaking to their consumer affairs representative
> that they feel no responsibility for selling a
> crap.
>
> I am convinced the system is a lemon. I will
> NEVER purchase another Lennox product. I would
> rather cool my home with a block of ice and a fan
> before buying an unreliable Lennox Product.
>
> During winter time compressors sounded like
> screaming banshees. Was told by serviceman that
> they were scroll type and was normal. Yeah ok. So
> loud, next to master bedroom wall, had units moved
> to other end of house. Upstairs air handler
> replaced within last 5 years, other noises from
> compressor sounded like a bag of cans rattling in
> the quiet of night. Serviceman said was compressor
> bearings going bad. Ok. Meanwhile have had outdoor
> unit fan replaced, numerous capacitor failures
> etc,etc.
>
> I have two Lennox furnaces and air conditioning
> units. Continual furnace repairs including the
> printed circuit boards. With my recent heater
> problems I have called two Lennox dealers and they
> both have told me that they have heard my
> complaint many times. They were nice enough to
> tell me not to hire them as they have given up on
> trying to repair my type of furnace. My response
> is to never buy a Lennox product when the Lennox
> dealers say they can't repair the product.
>
> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/lennox.h
> tml


Sounds like you have had some bad luck. I have had Lennox heat pumps last over 25 years with only one or two minor repairs. My current home is heated by a Lennox heat pump that was installed in 1989. I think the quality of the installation is more important than the quality of the equipment. You might have had a crappy installer.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Like You Would Know?? ()
Date: February 12, 2016 11:25PM

You need to go to the National Harbor Casino when it opens The MGM Grand and play craps.

Screw Heat Pumps, Drafty evil P.O.S that sends money to Dominion and leaves you with Nothing in power outages. With "Peppy Flame" Natural Gas you always have heat if you have a generator to power the fan and furnace electric circuit.Plus Instant Heat and a warm ..Not Drafty home.
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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Carrier Salesman ()
Date: February 14, 2016 07:41AM

Heat pumps are great - I highly recommend them! They pump tons of money right into my pocket. Of course, I'm no idiot - I heat my own home with neutral gas because I like a warm home.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 14, 2016 01:43PM

Carrier Salesman Wrote:
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> Heat pumps are great - I highly recommend them!
> They pump tons of money right into my pocket. Of
> course, I'm no idiot - I heat my own home with
> neutral gas because I like a warm home.

Neutral gas? How does that work? Does it even burn??

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: sad but true. ()
Date: February 14, 2016 05:55PM

Lennox sux Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You couldn't give me a free Lennox heat pump.
>
> We had our second service call today, 18 months
> after installation. This time it was a "faulty
> pressure valve". The technician told me that this
> was a common failure with this generation of
> furnace, and billed me for 3 hours (including
> travel time to pick up the part). While Lennox
> replaced the part for free, it was clear after
> speaking to their consumer affairs representative
> that they feel no responsibility for selling a
> crap.
>
> I am convinced the system is a lemon. I will
> NEVER purchase another Lennox product. I would
> rather cool my home with a block of ice and a fan
> before buying an unreliable Lennox Product.
>
> During winter time compressors sounded like
> screaming banshees. Was told by serviceman that
> they were scroll type and was normal. Yeah ok. So
> loud, next to master bedroom wall, had units moved
> to other end of house. Upstairs air handler
> replaced within last 5 years, other noises from
> compressor sounded like a bag of cans rattling in
> the quiet of night. Serviceman said was compressor
> bearings going bad. Ok. Meanwhile have had outdoor
> unit fan replaced, numerous capacitor failures
> etc,etc.
>
> I have two Lennox furnaces and air conditioning
> units. Continual furnace repairs including the
> printed circuit boards. With my recent heater
> problems I have called two Lennox dealers and they
> both have told me that they have heard my
> complaint many times. They were nice enough to
> tell me not to hire them as they have given up on
> trying to repair my type of furnace. My response
> is to never buy a Lennox product when the Lennox
> dealers say they can't repair the product.
>
> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/lennox.h
> tml


Sadly, anything made in America is sub-par. Mitsubishi is the king of the heat pump and A/C world. I have two of them that were installed in the late 80s and they have never failed even once.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: uu73J ()
Date: February 14, 2016 06:01PM

Heat pump with natural gas backup is the best compromise.

If you have deep pockets a ground thermal heat pump is the best approach, but few folks will pony up the cash to do this.

If you are smart you will know how to replace the capacitors in your condensing unit and keep capacitors on the shelf.

Add a hard start kit when installed.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hvac guy2 ()
Date: February 16, 2016 10:06AM

uu73J Wrote:
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> Heat pump with natural gas backup is the best
> compromise.
>
> If you have deep pockets a ground thermal heat
> pump is the best approach, but few folks will pony
> up the cash to do this.
>
> If you are smart you will know how to replace the
> capacitors in your condensing unit and keep
> capacitors on the shelf.
>
> Add a hard start kit when installed.


It is not a good idea to put a hard start kit on a scroll. Starting amps so much lower on a scroll than a recip that the start cap stays in the circuit too long which sends a shitload of back EMF to the run cap and blows it up over time.
If you have to use a start kit on a scroll use the ptc thermistor type and not the current-magnetic (5-2-1) type as the ptc reacts faster.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Henro ()
Date: February 17, 2016 11:12AM

Gas
75 at return
135 at supply

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: hvac guy2 ()
Date: February 18, 2016 07:40PM

Henro Wrote:
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> Gas
> 75 at return
> 135 at supply

Assuming those numbers are degrees Fahrenheit. Useless information without CFM. You must be ignorant as fuck.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Mother Teresa ()
Date: February 19, 2016 06:39AM

Hate the Planet Wrote:
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> Use a heat pump if you hate the planet and like to
> shiver. Heat pumps use electricity generated by
> coal power plants, which typically operate at
> efficiencies of 30-35%, not counting transmission
> loss. Gas furnaces are double or triple this
> efficiency. Only a shill heat pump salesman or
> braindead zombie would recommend a heat pump over
> gas

^This. Anyone with a brain can see right through the one dumbfuck shill that keeps posting the bullshit heat pump sales pitch.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: jk ()
Date: February 19, 2016 08:04AM

Dual fuel Heat Pump / Natural Gas is a great choice. Heat pump works great for a majority of the winter. Then, during the cold spells where heat pump cant keep up, the natural gas furnace can kick in and make your home nice and toasty.

Stay away from oil, it is only used by people who do not have a natural gas option.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Fuck you, Oborona ()
Date: February 19, 2016 12:13PM

.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: dingus ()
Date: February 19, 2016 01:21PM

jk Wrote:
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> Dual fuel Heat Pump / Natural Gas is a great
> choice. Heat pump works great for a majority of
> the winter. Then, during the cold spells where
> heat pump cant keep up, the natural gas furnace
> can kick in and make your home nice and toasty.
>
> Stay away from oil, it is only used by people who
> do not have a natural gas option.

I love the dual fuel. Set my changeover temp at 20 degrees so the furnace rarely runs except when the heat pump is defrosting. The gas furnace dries the house out really bad so I try to avoid using it.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Fuck you, Oborona ()
Date: February 19, 2016 01:43PM

j

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: pop bumper ()
Date: February 19, 2016 03:20PM

teeny bumo

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Made in the USA ()
Date: February 19, 2016 03:39PM

Go with natural gas.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: Fuck you, Oborona ()
Date: February 19, 2016 06:29PM

jNwbc

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: savin the planet 2 ()
Date: February 20, 2016 10:01AM

Oil or gas are horrible. Only way to heat is with a heat pump and leave that thermostat at 60 degrees in the winter no matter how you heat. 60 is all you need you filthy animals!!
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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: dan theman ()
Date: February 20, 2016 12:51PM

Love my heat pump. Saved me a shitload of money over strip heat.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: UDX63 ()
Date: February 20, 2016 01:43PM

This is easy question. Everyone should burn niggers. The oversupply would be gone in one winter.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: social science ()
Date: February 20, 2016 04:35PM

UDX63 Wrote:
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> This is easy question. Everyone should burn
> niggers. The oversupply would be gone in one
> winter.


They are mostly water and do not burn well at all.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: People ()
Date: February 20, 2016 04:44PM

People who buy heat pumps on purpose are the same ones who buy the $75 semi-annual checkups and then pay $200 to replace a $6.00 capacitor.

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Re: best way to heat your home in fairfax? gas oil or heat pump?
Posted by: sisterinlawofsurleymcnasty ()
Date: February 21, 2016 07:14PM

buy a quarter ton of beans every fall, hook a hose to your butt, and heat with methane.

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