if anyone were to actually attend a McLean Bible Church service, you would see that it is a service without the rituals, excessive dogma, etc.; instead, the church is based on a message of developing personal relationships with God. Say all you want about how terrible you think Solomon or the people who attend the church are (because disputing such an unbased opinion is futile,) but if you were ever to see how they lovingly treat and care for children with disabilities, the kind of children most other churches/places of worship would reject, you would change your mind about McLean.

My sister has Autism, and our old church wouldn't even care for her. But McLean is different.

yes they do actually, they file a 503B with the irs

I never understand why people comment on things they know nothing about. Lon preaches from the only truth, God's word.What an absurd comment that he would sell absolution, which is impossible in the first place. Forgiveness comes from God only.
And what does it matter how much money the leaders of any church makes?!! If they work for it and the congregation wants to honor them for their service, it is the church's business. If anything underhanded goes on they are answering to the One who sees all!

Lon Soloman makes like $700,000 a year. It's ridiculous.

Ding an sich Wrote:
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> Lon Soloman makes like $700,000 a year. It's
> ridiculous.


False. Not even close - just more false internet rumors you all fall for hook line and sinker.

How long has McLean Bible Church had its Manassas location?

Rev. Ike Wrote:
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> How long has McLean Bible Church had its Manassas
> location?


2.5 years.

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Ding an sich Wrote:
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> > Lon Soloman makes like $700,000 a year. It's
> > ridiculous.
>
>
> False. Not even close - just more false internet
> rumors you all fall for hook line and sinker.


Bob Dole wishes to point out that Lon Soloman and McLean Bible Church have refused to reveal Lon Soloman's salary.

Bob Dole Wrote:
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> snowdenscold Wrote:
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> > Ding an sich Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Lon Soloman makes like $700,000 a year. It's
> > > ridiculous.
> >
> >
> > False. Not even close - just more false
> internet
> > rumors you all fall for hook line and sinker.
>
>
> Bob Dole wishes to point out that Lon Soloman and
> McLean Bible Church have refused to reveal Lon
> Soloman's salary.

The budget (publically available every quarterly meeting) has a line item that includes several peoples salaries (including Lon's), insurance, and some other miscellaneous bits - and it still doesn't even total that number.

Been there a few times. Great entertainment, nice people, didn't get hit up for money even once. Lon would make an excellent Fortune 500 CEO. Probably deserves the huge salary he's making. But make no mistake, the church's accomodation of special-needs kids was started as a cover to selfishly provide for Lon's own special-needs kid.

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> Bob Dole Wrote:
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> > snowdenscold Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Ding an sich Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Lon Soloman makes like $700,000 a year.
> It's
> > > > ridiculous.
> > >
> > >
> > > False. Not even close - just more false
> > internet
> > > rumors you all fall for hook line and sinker.
> >
> >
> > Bob Dole wishes to point out that Lon Soloman
> and
> > McLean Bible Church have refused to reveal Lon
> > Soloman's salary.
>
> The budget (publically available every quarterly
> meeting) has a line item that includes several
> peoples salaries (including Lon's), insurance, and
> some other miscellaneous bits - and it still
> doesn't even total that number.


The last Bob Dole checked, the MBC website had an excuse posted for why they refuse to disclose Lon Solomon's salary.
Bob Dole has better things to do than check again.

uhm, im a young student at Mclean and let me tell y'all this. Mclean DOES NOT sucks! so much hatred on this website. Very dissapointing to me and to God.

Just checked, and no, God is not disappointed that people here question why Lon needs to be wealthy to get the message out about how life should be more spiritual and less materialistic. You got your signals crossed. Maybe you accidentally tuned in to the Satan channel?

I love when humans try to tell me what 'God' wants or feels... You really think that's your place?

Prof Plum Wrote:
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> Been there a few times. Great entertainment, nice
> people, didn't get hit up for money even once.
> Lon would make an excellent Fortune 500 CEO.
> Probably deserves the huge salary he's making.
> But make no mistake, the church's accomodation of
> special-needs kids was started as a cover to
> selfishly provide for Lon's own special-needs kid.


Another lie. Jill Solomon is 20 years old and can not take advantage of the services of Jill's House. Only disabled children under the age of 18 can go and stay there. Why lie?

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> I love when humans try to tell me what 'God' wants
> or feels... You really think that's your place?


The Bible tells you what God wants and expects. Pastors (and priests and reverends and etc) teach the Bible. Some much better than others. Speading the Good News is the charge that Jesus gave to his followers. So I guess the answer is "yes". However, Christians are counciled by Christ not to judge. Many, including me fail in that area. It's not easy being a good Christian but, as Paul wrote, it's about running a good race.

Too Shay Wrote:
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> Prof Plum Wrote:
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> -----
> > Been there a few times. Great entertainment,
> nice
> > people, didn't get hit up for money even once.
> > Lon would make an excellent Fortune 500 CEO.
> > Probably deserves the huge salary he's making.
> > But make no mistake, the church's accomodation
> of
> > special-needs kids was started as a cover to
> > selfishly provide for Lon's own special-needs
> kid.
>
>
> Another lie. Jill Solomon is 20 years old and can
> not take advantage of the services of Jill's
> House. Only disabled children under the age of 18
> can go and stay there. Why lie?

I'll go slow since you're obviously retarded. Think how long Lon has been having the church pay for her care. This goes back more than two years, moron!

Too Shay Wrote:
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> ... Wrote:
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> > I love when humans try to tell me what 'God'
> wants
> > or feels... You really think that's your place?
>
>
> The Bible tells you what God wants and expects.
> Pastors (and priests and reverends and etc) teach
> the Bible. Some much better than others.
> Speading the Good News is the charge that Jesus
> gave to his followers. So I guess the answer is
> "yes". However, Christians are counciled by
> Christ not to judge. Many, including me fail in
> that area. It's not easy being a good Christian
> but, as Paul wrote, it's about running a good
> race.


Of course, of course, I had forgotten that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, impecably written down by his faithful, and completely sane, prophets...

Now, just as soon as the Christians stop allowing women to speak in church, I'll start taking them seriously. After all, God has spoken (through a book, written by men...).

MBC is full of Hot submisive traditional girls who want to marry and be committed to one man. I was sold on that and have a hot blonde and great marriage. Knock religon all you want but its povided my family a grest blueprint and set of teachings to raise a wonderful famiy and one thay stays togethher.

McLean Bible Church is a great church with something for everyone. Regardless of what people believe alterior motives are for any of what they do, they do many great things for the community at large. Lon Solomon is an excellent teacher of the Word. He explains the Bible well and ties it in to modern day life with the churches trademarked "So What?" question nearly every service. If you are a believer or not want to learn... go and listen. If you are a troll and want to do what trolls do, stay on this website and dispute everything. Lon has always taught, from the bible, that all sin is equal, whether it is homosexuality, telling lies, stealing, etc. Just because people believe he is teaching intolerance does not make it so. He is teaching that things that we are all sinners and can be forgiven for our sins by following Jesus. A practicing homosexual is no more or no less a sinner than anyone else... meaning all of us. All this talk of science is silly also... think of God operates by a different set of rules than we do. Some may say that's impossible but think of God as author of a story. He has creative license with everything because he wills it to be. He created the laws of physics and everything else. I also believe he created a fully mature universe much like page 1 of any book starts with fully mature characters.

"MBC is full of Hot submisive traditional girls who want to marry and be committed to one man."

Once you get married and have a couple kids, she will want a separate bedroom.

The only MBC member I knew told me he didn't shop at the Lotto Korean food market because it "wasn't owned by us." He said he shopped at Giant. Idiot! Giant is owned by the Dutch, who are way more secular than Koreans. That's probably about the level of critical reasoning you can expect for people who go there and pay that charlatan's huge salary. Organized religion is for fools.

I've been to MBC several times. The music sounds professional, the service is also quite professional--they have communion and the offering down pat. As far as I can see from the nosebleed seats, Solomon is usually not even on stage until they call him from his green room to do his spiel. But his good-hearted, trusting volunteers man all sorts of helpful programs, so if you want to socialize with people who are hoping to do the right thing, this church is a nice start.

(I also recommend McLean Baptist. I'm not a baptist but if they have the same pastor they had 15 years ago, he was a well-educated man who did not talk down to his audience. He knew his bible but he admitted he was interpreting it, and did not say it was correct and truthful down to the very last word, as the rest of them often do.)

That said, I have never been impressed with Lon Solomon's 20 minute sermons. Every one of them mentions his partying, Jewish past. Who f'ing cares? It's not like God took a poor boy from the slums who had an abusive family and raised him up. This was a well-to-do party boy who sold drugs to make even more money. As much as any of us is the same 20 years after college, he is basically the same person he was before, rubbing elbows with the rich and powerful. His metanoia is no miracle and he doesn't need to keep bringing it up.

Apparently he has star power, charisma, and that is why his lieutenants stay with him.

Georgetown. 1776 house. 2k for dinner. Sep 2011

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> Mrs. K Wrote:
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> > I don't know -- is this his house?
> >
> > Again, do you have proof that he's done
> anything
> > illegal?
>
> Why the focus on illegality? Did someone claim
> that he was doing something illegal?
>
> I'm much more interested in ethical dilemmas. Like
> a man that preaches the word of Christ, yet
> doesn't live the word.
>
> By all outward appearances, he seems to be a rich
> man. And who was it who said:
>
> "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go
> through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to
> enter the kingdom of God."?


I think if you take the above verses in Mark a little further and in total context you'll see that the 'rich young ruler' trusted in his riches far more than whatever Jesus was to ask of him... THAT is what caused Jesus to tell his disciples the aforementioned verse. In fact, further in Mark 10 Jesus tells the disciples that if a person is willing to give for the sake of the gospel (like Jesus asked of the rich young ruler) then that person will be rewarded back tremendously multiplied IN THIS LIFETIME whatever he gave... AND the promise of everlasting life.

Doesn't sound like Jesus (or our Father) has a big issue with a person having financial resources to me.

Plus, if you think this out a bit and take that group of verses you listed just by themselves, then ask yourself how did Old Testament icons like Abraham, Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Joshua, David or the richest of all (Solomon) ever make it into heaven? All of them were blessed tremendously in material goods, in cattle, in lands or in outright money/physical wealth...

the question you should be asking is why would our God bless all of these men (and many others thruout the Bible) with material gain if he viewed it as a negative?

As long as money doesn't have you and you don't place your trust in it above God, I cannot see where it is an issue to Him. I don't believe God ever had an issue with a man that had wealth that placed Him above his own personal wealth.

Check out Deut 8:18.

.02 fromCDiP

You Are Worthy - McLean Bible Church Worship Group and Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqcTKFLWOG8

You Are Worthy, by Eddie James, arranged/orchestrated by Bradley Knight. Performed by the McLean Bible Church Worship Group (David Sheets, director) and Orchestra (Ben Roundtree, director) on Sunday, September 11, 2011. Video directed by Ken Wortendyke.

ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS.I HEAR HIM COME ON THE RADIO NOT A SERMON JUST A THOUGHT.THE GUY PRODUCES LOGICAL THINKING THRU THIS.I LISTEN TO HIS SERMONS AND HE HAS A WAY TO KEEP YOU ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT.REMEMBER JOGGING 1 MORNING AS HE WAS PREACHING ON HOW DAVID WAS A MUREDER.WELL IT GRABED MY ATTN.I THOUGHT DAVID WAS A GREAT GUY UNTILL THIS ,WHICH HE DID GO ON TO BE.MY POINT IS HE CAN TEACH AND AS LONG AS HE STAYS CLEAN,HE CAN PREACH.HE HAS DONE SOME REALLY NICE THINGS IN THE SECULAR AREA.HE HAS BUILT SOME HUGE CHURCHES FROM HIS FOLLOWING CONGREGATIONS.ALL THESE CHURCHES HAVE TO FILL THERE SEATS TO BE PROFITABLE OR TO MAKE ENDS MEET.HE ISNT TELLING ANY LIES TO GET PEOPLE TO STAY.HE HAS SEVRAL PEOPLE PEOPLE THAT PASTOR UNDER HIM AND EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SUCCESFUL.BIG CHURCH IS SCARY I AGREE.BUT THE GUY IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES.SO FOR HIM TO HAVE A BIG HOUSE AND FANCY STUFF WHO CARES HE HAS EARNED IT.IF HE CAN DO MORE FOR HIS CONGREGATION IS BETWEEN HIM AND GOD.AND NO ONE ELSE.BUT MY GUESS IS HE TITHES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.AND IM QUITE SURE HE WORKS AT WHAT HE DOES.LETS LET GOD DECIDE IF HE DOES ENOUGH.IVE LEARNED MORE FROM HIM IN THE FEW YRS IVE LISTEN THEN MY WHOLE LIFE LISTENING TO OTHERS.JOB WAS A RICH MAN TOO.ALTHO HE WENT POOR FOR AWHILE HE STARTED OUT RICH.HE LOVED GOD AND FOLKS TRIED TO GET HIM TO CURSE GOD BUT HE DIDNT.LETS LET HIM PREACH AND TEACH UNTILL WE ARE INFORMED DIFFRENTLY .NOT ALL RICH PEOPLE ARE EVIL.REMEMBER THIS MAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SOUL IN HIS BUILDINGS.

JESUS WEEPS EVERY TIME YOU HIT CAPS LOCK. NOT A SERMON JUST A THOUGHT.

Too many caps, no paragraphs , bad spelling and punctuation.

Doesn't Jesus want his flock to appear just a little educated?

No, he has never done anything illegal. He's great. But don't get involved with some of the people, especially the women. You may be stalked for the remainder of your natural life.

I got jerked off at MBC once, but I was never a "member"

Yea went on an outing with them one sunday (Mt. Biking) - it was business networking pure and simple. No God, no kindness just listening to several blowhard jackasses brag how great they were at lobbying.

It's impossible for any man or woman to know if any in the flock or clergy at Mclean Bible church are going to heaven. My experience there tells me that a great many are not. The arrogance and self rightiousness I've experienced there has not been rivaled at any other church I've attended. Most people there sadly don't truly understand salvation, because they rely on the preaching of Lon Soloman. I have been to church service there about 5 times and each time I've heard this preacher say "we at Mclean Bible Church don't believe that the 9 spiritual gifts are in effect today". That directly contradicts the Bible. He does preach a great deal of truth from the bible, but as soon as ads to or subtracts from the holy word the whole message has been soiled. I recommend Jimmy Swaggert on SBN 24/7 network where you will learn the true message of the cross and begin to walk in victory like nothing you've ever known. Also you liberals could stay green by not burning gas going to church. Amen

I do not believe in following an organized religion. I believe in following the Bible. Many of us have been led astray by the "evangelicals" and those who claim to know things only God knows.

The Bible is divinely inspired. I'd follow its words long before I'd follow a minister, regardless of how inspiring he is.

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> I do not believe in following an organized
> religion. I believe in following the Bible. Many
> of us have been led astray by the "evangelicals"
> and those who claim to know things only God knows.
>
>
> The Bible is divinely inspired. I'd follow its
> words long before I'd follow a minister,
> regardless of how inspiring he is.


is that a sermon, or just a thought?

LoLz

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I do not believe in following an organized
> > religion. I believe in following the Bible.
> Many
> > of us have been led astray by the
> "evangelicals"
> > and those who claim to know things only God
> knows.
> >
> >
> > The Bible is divinely inspired. I'd follow its
> > words long before I'd follow a minister,
> > regardless of how inspiring he is.
>
>
> is that a sermon, or just a thought?
>
> LoLz

Kind of somewhere in between. I don't purport to know everything about God or His ways. I believe that His commandments are pretty straightforward.

Does anyone want to join a men's support group at MBC? We meet every Sunday after late mass.

dieing breed Wrote:
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> It's impossible for any man or woman to know if
> any in the flock or clergy at Mclean Bible church
> are going to heaven. My experience there tells me
> that a great many are not. The arrogance and self
> rightiousness I've experienced there has not been
> rivaled at any other church I've attended. Most
> people there sadly don't truly understand
> salvation, because they rely on the preaching of
> Lon Soloman. I have been to church service there
> about 5 times and each time I've heard this
> preacher say "we at Mclean Bible Church don't
> believe that the 9 spiritual gifts are in effect
> today". That directly contradicts the Bible. He
> does preach a great deal of truth from the bible,
> but as soon as ads to or subtracts from the holy
> word the whole message has been soiled. I
> recommend Jimmy Swaggert on SBN 24/7 network where
> you will learn the true message of the cross and
> begin to walk in victory like nothing you've ever
> known. Also you liberals could stay green by not
> burning gas going to church. Amen


I recommend not paying these churches a dime. Everytime a hear about some jackass preacher living in a 10,000 square foot home it makes my skin crawl.

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> Does anyone want to join a men's support group at
> MBC? We meet every Sunday after late mass.


"Mass"? LOL

McLean Bible is a business networking group - period. I attended a fellowship outing once and it was nothing more than a bunch of business blow-hards hawking their services.

MBC is one golf course away from being a country club.

Is this one of the churches that believes the universe is only 6,000 years old?

Physicist Wrote:
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> Is this one of the churches that believes the
> universe is only 6,000 years old?


The Bible does not state how old the earth is. I have never heard Lon say how old he thinks the earth is. He is in the middle of a series on Genesis and he never mentioned the age of the earth. He just did a killer sermon on homosexuality a couple of weeks ago. I recommend it....

http://www.mcleanbible.org/media_player.asp?type=large&messageID=155199

M.McLeod Wrote:
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> instead, the church is based on a message of
> developing personal relationships with God.

What about those of us who don't believe in invisible sky friends? Anything for us?



Prof Plum Wrote:
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> But make no mistake, the church's accomodation of
> special-needs kids was started as a cover to
> selfishly provide for Lon's own special-needs kid.


So Lon has a retard?


Too Shay Wrote:
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> Another lie. Jill Solomon is 20 years old and can
> not take advantage of the services of Jill's
> House. Only disabled children under the age of 18
> can go and stay there. Why lie?


Yeah, laugh now, but when you're banging her and she starts shitting everywhere it won't be so funny!


Matt1 Wrote:
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> Does anyone want to join a men's support group at
> MBC? We meet every Sunday after late mass.


Is this what happened to the WNC? Now they're meeting for drinks and debauchery on Sundays?


Anonymous User Wrote:
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> He just did a killer sermon on
> homosexuality a couple of weeks ago. I recommend
> it....


You recommend homosexuality? How about Lon, is he for or against it?