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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Stats Guy ()
Date: October 30, 2011 05:20PM

JR2 Wrote:
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> does Edison stand any chance at beating Hayfield?
> and if so, could it change the D5 playoff picture?


In my opinion they have no chance.

But if they win and Langley wins then they replace Mount Vernon as 8th and there are no other changes to the above bracket. If Langley loses then the bracket is uneffected by the Edison outcome and looks like:

Stone Bridge
Yorktown
Hayfield
Madison
South County
Lee
McLean
Langley

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: JR2 ()
Date: October 30, 2011 05:37PM

so there are there any circumstances where Madison and Langley would play each other in the 1st round?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Stats Guy ()
Date: October 30, 2011 06:55PM

JR2 Wrote:
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> so there are there any circumstances where Madison
> and Langley would play each other in the 1st
> round?

There is at least one, but it requires Woodson to beat SC AND about 5 other games to go opposite of what I've predicted. I wouldn't bet any money on this pairing.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Just Saying... ()
Date: October 30, 2011 10:32PM

Just Saying.. South County has the most rowdy, obnoxious student section ever. That might be factoring into their winning streak..

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: October 31, 2011 11:29AM

what are the current seedings for Division 6 AAA? Westfield already has the number one seed, I get that and Centrevile has the 2 seed and Oakton 3 and Chantilly 4 but who brings up the bottom half of the bracket?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Can You Read ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:46AM

Westfield Bulldog Wrote:
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> what are the current seedings for Division 6 AAA?
> Westfield already has the number one seed, I get
> that and Centrevile has the 2 seed and Oakton 3
> and Chantilly 4 but who brings up the bottom half
> of the bracket?


The playoff picture with power points for D6 and D5 is up above only a few posts!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Can You Read ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:46AM

Westfield Bulldog Wrote:
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> what are the current seedings for Division 6 AAA?
> Westfield already has the number one seed, I get
> that and Centrevile has the 2 seed and Oakton 3
> and Chantilly 4 but who brings up the bottom half
> of the bracket?


The playoff picture with power points for D6 and D5 is up above only a few posts!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Can You Read ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:46AM

Westfield Bulldog Wrote:
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> what are the current seedings for Division 6 AAA?
> Westfield already has the number one seed, I get
> that and Centrevile has the 2 seed and Oakton 3
> and Chantilly 4 but who brings up the bottom half
> of the bracket?


The playoff picture with power points for D6 and D5 is up above only a few posts!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: CanYouRead ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:51AM

Westfield Bulldog Wrote:
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> what are the current seedings for Division 6 AAA?
> Westfield already has the number one seed, I get
> that and Centrevile has the 2 seed and Oakton 3
> and Chantilly 4 but who brings up the bottom half
> of the bracket?

The playoff picture with power points for D6 and D5 is up above only a few posts!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Can You Read ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:54AM

Sorry for the multiple posts - my puter froze and I kept clicking Post Message

However the Bulldog probably needed to hear it 4 times, since he can't read!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: REALLY!! ()
Date: October 31, 2011 12:24PM

Really Keeping It Real Wrote:
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> Posted by: KeepitReal ()
>
> Date: October 29, 2011 09:28AM
>
>
> I have heard from several kids that they have
> played all sports with the Quigley's, said they
> have always behaved in a spoiled manner and have
> tremendous tempers. I have witnessed it in games
> the disrespect to coaches. Problem at LB, too many
> fathers coaching, and too many Chef's in the
> kitchen. They don't have the players to run the
> spread effectively to go against the better teams
> in the area. They also haven't given the run game
> a chance to develop with game experience. He
> should not have been able to play at least the
> first game back. Personally he should have been
> kept off the team.
> _________________________________
>
> Really, my son has played with and against them in
> several sports and he has the opposite opinion.
> Sure they have had incidents, but what kid in high
> school is squeaky clean? Since it appears that
> you are also a parent of another player on the
> team, I would ask is your son 100% angel and walks
> a straight and narrow path? I think not. The
> majority of the kids at Lake Braddock, and many
> other schools in FCPS are spoiled and act somewhat
> entitiled. i.e. Langley, McLean, Robinson,
> Woodson just to name a few. I've been around for
> a while and have yet to see them being disrectful
> to coaches other than their dad at times. They are
> not perfect, and have a little bit of attitude,
> but I would think you want a little attitude in a
> football player rather than someone who is docile.
> My point is don't get on here and bash these kids
> and their family, before you make sure that every
> single duck is in a row in your house.
>
> You state that the problem with LB Football is
> that there are too many fathers coaching? Was
> that also the issue in '09 when they went to
> state, in '10 when the were in the state
> semi-final, because all three dads were on staff
> then and all 4 kids were playing then also? So
> are these kids only playing because their dads are
> on the staff or is it the fact that they have
> ability? If you can name a player that can play
> either of the 4 kid's positions better, name them.
> Quigleys twins are the best QB/WR, Weiler is the
> best kicker, and Hoskins is the second leading
> tackler on defense, is that because of their dads
> being "Chefs in the kitchen?"
>
> Now the effectiveness of the spread and lack of
> confidence in the run game, I would have to agree.
> At least two of the games lost would have
> resulted in a W if they even tried to run the
> ball.
>
> Really I think the problem is that they did not
> properly prepare for life after Neibrich.

Are you serious? you start your defense to the Quigleys are assholes with "Sure they have had incidents, but what kid in high school is squeaky clean?" I would say about 99% are squeaky clean, especially when compared to these 2. I do not know them from Adam and I would have never even given it anymore thought UNTIL I read your reply. They must be aholes, if you can only defend them with the old "sure they are aholes, BUT all high school kids are aholes defense."

I would bet the problem is enablers like you did not correct them, so they dont know any better than to act like they do. If they were my boys and they acted as has been reported there would have been swift and immediate response with the knowledge that continued bad actions would bring more and escalated reaction.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: October 31, 2011 05:44PM

Can You Read Wrote:
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> Sorry for the multiple posts - my puter froze and
> I kept clicking Post Message
>
> However the Bulldog probably needed to hear it 4
> times, since he can't read!


Oh I can read just fine. But what about you? you seem like you aren't smart enough even to spell out computer. You make yourself sound like a dumb ape who sat there and pressed the big shiny button that says "post message" and obviously you don't have the patience or the comprehension to understand that computers need to load and don't work right away all the time. I bid good day to you sir, and pick fights with the right people

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Playoffs ()
Date: October 31, 2011 09:32PM

Stat guy - u said the Edison outcome doesn't effect the rest of the bracket then how does stonebridge jump Yorktown in ur most recent bracket when nothing has changed from two days ago?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: toss up ()
Date: October 31, 2011 09:58PM

What's more likely to happen? Herndon upset Westfield or Oakton upset Centreville?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Stats Guy ()
Date: October 31, 2011 10:06PM

My original predicted bracket is based on my prediction of all 15 games (actually 20 because there are 5 non-regional teams that effect the power points). Included in those I predict that Langley will win. To answer the Edison question I had to consider what would happen if Langley loses, if that does happen then Stonebridge and Yorktown flip places and the bracket is as listed.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 31, 2011 10:41PM

Stats guy is just throwing around a bunch of predictions, anyone without a life can calculate the power points for 20 probable outcomes, the fact of the matter is there are 400 possible outcomes and all this playoff talk is mere speculation. Let it play out.

To tossup, no way either upset happens, but Herndon beating Westfield would be far more of a shocker than an 8-1 oakton team beating Centreville. Bad question.

In the meantime here is the scoring line for week 10, what a quick season it was...

Annandale @ Lee (-14.0)
Centreville (-14.5) @ Oakton
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Edison
Herndon @ Westfield (-38.0)
Lake Braddock (-3.0) @ West Springfield
Langley (-6.0) @ Mclean
Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)
Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0)
South County (-6.0) @ Woodson
South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
Stuart (-28.0) @ Falls Church
Stone Bridge (-22.0) @ Fairfax
Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-17.5)
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-27.0)

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Lock Box ()
Date: October 31, 2011 10:52PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Stats guy is just throwing around a bunch of
> predictions, anyone without a life can calculate
> the power points for 20 probable outcomes, the
> fact of the matter is there are 400 possible
> outcomes and all this playoff talk is mere
> speculation. Let it play out.
>
> To tossup, no way either upset happens, but
> Herndon beating Westfield would be far more of a
> shocker than an 8-1 oakton team beating
> Centreville. Bad question.
>
> In the meantime here is the scoring line for week
> 10, what a quick season it was...
>
> Annandale @ Lee (-14.0)
> Centreville (-14.5) @ Oakton
> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Edison
> Herndon @ Westfield (-38.0)
> Lake Braddock (-3.0) @ West Springfield
> Langley (-6.0) @ Mclean
> Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)
> Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0)
> South County (-6.0) @ Woodson
> South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
> Stuart (-28.0) @ Falls Church
> Stone Bridge (-22.0) @ Fairfax
> Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-17.5)
> Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-27.0)

I would like $1000 on Herndon +38 against Westfield. Where can I place that bet?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Stats Guy ()
Date: October 31, 2011 11:16PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Stats guy is just throwing around a bunch of
> predictions, anyone without a life can calculate
> the power points for 20 probable outcomes, the
> fact of the matter is there are 400 possible
> outcomes and all this playoff talk is mere
> speculation. Let it play out.

Wow why all the anger. I have a spreadsheet so it takes less than 5 minutes to determine powerpoints give 15 game predictions - how long does it take you to come up with your point spread predictions?

I picked the games the same as you except for TJ and you forgot WestPot which I predict to beat TC. Running the spreadsheet with your predictions yields the same results for both divisions.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: response ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:17AM

toss up Wrote:
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> What's more likely to happen? Herndon upset
> Westfield or Oakton upset Centreville?


Oakton upset Centreville. Won't happen, but it's far more possible. There is no chance for Herndon upsetting Westfield.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 01, 2011 12:20PM

I am a westfield high school fan and let me tell you that Westfield can't get cocky against Herndon, we have lost to them in the past namely the year after our 2007 state championship team, we lost to them in double overtime.....now that game was at Herndon and it was their homecoming game....but this game is at westfield and we're number one in the state for a reason! Wetsfield and Centreville both roll this week

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Upsets ()
Date: November 01, 2011 12:24PM

Herndon has no chance. Oakton has a chance but I would expect that centreville looks to bounce back big after suffering their first loss on the eve of the playoffs. The only upset that has a chance is Edison over hayfield. Hayfield has struggled with subpar teams. They are anemic on offense. If their special teams and defense do not score hayfield struggles to put points up. Edison has talent on offense they just need to put it together.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: roll tide ()
Date: November 01, 2011 03:40PM

Is Hayfield still the 3 seed if they lose to Edison?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: bull132 ()
Date: November 01, 2011 04:49PM

WESTFIELD BABY!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 01, 2011 05:12PM

bull132 Wrote:
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> WESTFIELD BABY!


YEAH MAN! HOW 'BOUT DEM BULLDOGS?!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: CanYouRead ()
Date: November 01, 2011 07:16PM

roll tide Wrote:
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> Is Hayfield still the 3 seed if they lose to
> Edison?


Yes, read above post on Edison.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: football ()
Date: November 01, 2011 08:10PM

Centreville is a better team then westfield and played better on Friday night they just had a bad special teams play that cost them the game. Westfield had 74 offensive yards. Thats horrible.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: the scores ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:36PM

Thanks, Steve. Now the scores:

Annandale 17 - Lee 45 (the Atoms are worn out and uninspired)
Centreville 28 - Oakton 7 (too much CV dee)
Hayfield 21 - Edison 23 (upset of the week!)
Herndon @ Westfield (-38.0) (yep... it'll be ugly)
Lake Braddock 42 - West Springfield 20 (two headed QB monster for LB rules)
Langley 24 - Mclean 21 (OT win for Saxons in the annual rivalry game)
Marshall 10 - Madison 21 (closer than u might think)
Robinson 20 - Chantilly 17 (Rams enter playoffs via front door)
South County 31 - Woodson 0 (GUARANTEED shut out!!)
South Lakes 14 - Jefferson 17 (a win on Fri night and 1600 SATs the following AM)
Stuart (-28.0) @ Falls Church (yep, 28-0 sounds good)
Stone Bridge (-22.0) @ Fairfax (another yep, 29 - 7)
Wakefield 7 - Mount Vernon 34
Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-27.0) (nope, more like 48 - 0)
WP 35 - TCW 14


> Annandale @ Lee (-14.0)
> Centreville (-14.5) @ Oakton
> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Edison
> Herndon @ Westfield (-38.0)
> Lake Braddock (-3.0) @ West Springfield
> Langley (-6.0) @ Mclean
> Marshall @ Madison (-21.0)
> Robinson @ Chantilly (-7.0)
> South County (-6.0) @ Woodson
> South Lakes (-7.0) @ Jefferson
> Stuart (-28.0) @ Falls Church
> Stone Bridge (-22.0) @ Fairfax
> Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-17.5)
> Washington-Lee @ Yorktown (-27.0)

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: NotThisYear ()
Date: November 01, 2011 09:52PM

Don't think Robinson will be able to score 20 on Chantilly, nor will they win.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: lodadf ()
Date: November 01, 2011 10:30PM

football Wrote:
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> Centreville is a better team then westfield and
> played better on Friday night they just had a bad
> special teams play that cost them the game.
> Westfield had 74 offensive yards. Thats horrible.


Even though I hate both Centreville and Westfield, I'm actually an Oakton fan. Props to Westfield for pulling out the W with such a bad display on offense.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 01, 2011 11:38PM

football Wrote:
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> Centreville is a better team then westfield and
> played better on Friday night they just had a bad
> special teams play that cost them the game.
> Westfield had 74 offensive yards. Thats horrible.

did you see the final score buddy? we forced turnovers which is a key aspect of good football, NOT lucky football. Good defense is stopping an opposing team inside the red zone and forcing key turnovers (i.e.) limiting c-ville's offense to ten points, getting two critical turnovers, one of which was on Westfields six yard line in over time. WHS offense ran dive after dive play but their defense played VERY GOOD sound football, don't be pissed off that you lost. Be happy that y'all played with the other best team in the state, Westfield and Centreville are tops in the state far and away and both will meet again for the Northern Region Title, no questions asked, this time the game will be at Westfield and could very much be a completely different game. Next time, Centreville is gonna come in with anger about losing the first time, don't get angry, you can't change the past. However focus on the future because you know westfield is gonna be ready to go when that day comes bro!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: roll tide ()
Date: November 02, 2011 01:55PM

c-ville will win the next time they play westfield....GUARANTEED I will cover all bets.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 02, 2011 05:10PM

@ roll tide, you can't ever guarantee anything, I'm not guaranteeing Westfield beats them again, I'm merely saying we'll be ready to go next time we play centreville, C-ville better be ready to play to

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: ahahaha ()
Date: November 02, 2011 05:52PM

Westfield Bulldog Wrote:
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> football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Centreville is a better team then westfield and
> > played better on Friday night they just had a
> bad
> > special teams play that cost them the game.
> > Westfield had 74 offensive yards. Thats
> horrible.
>
> did you see the final score buddy? we forced
> turnovers which is a key aspect of good football,
> NOT lucky football. Good defense is stopping an
> opposing team inside the red zone and forcing key
> turnovers (i.e.) limiting c-ville's offense to ten
> points, getting two critical turnovers, one of
> which was on Westfields six yard line in over
> time. WHS offense ran dive after dive play but
> their defense played VERY GOOD sound football,
> don't be pissed off that you lost. Be happy that
> y'all played with the other best team in the
> state, Westfield and Centreville are tops in the
> state far and away and both will meet again for
> the Northern Region Title, no questions asked,
> this time the game will be at Westfield and could
> very much be a completely different game. Next
> time, Centreville is gonna come in with anger
> about losing the first time, don't get angry, you
> can't change the past. However focus on the future
> because you know westfield is gonna be ready to go
> when that day comes bro!


Hahahahah you sound like a lunatic. You'll get crushed the next time you play Centreville. Have fun!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: concord district #1 in VA ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:28AM

c-ville can talk all the crap they want, but westfield is #1 in the state and #48 in the country and c-ville is not AND THATS A FACT! i dont think only scoring 10 points is much of an ass kicking if you ask me. AND yes c-ville offensive was better but westfield did enough to win obviously.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: you forgot the e ()
Date: November 03, 2011 08:21AM

Ratings mean nothing now that both teams have clinched 1 and 2 and are still 1 and 2 in the state.

Props to Westfield for getting the win, but everyone at the game walked away thinking Centreville was the better, more complete team. If anything I think the loss makes them that much hungrier when they meet up in the Region Championship. Centreville will beat Westfield, not a thought, just a fact.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: bluestreak81 ()
Date: November 03, 2011 08:38AM

I would like to comment on the Westfield vs. Centreville game. I read all of the comments and the bottom line it was a GREAT football game. My opinion is that if you hold a team to 75 yds total offense and lose .. shame on you. It also helps when you have an ex Westfield coach (current Centreville coach) teaching the Centreville kids the Westfield offense the week leading up to the game.Westfield offense needs to make some adjustments and Centreville needs to improve on special teams. I look forward to the rematch and wish both teams the best of luck in the playoffs.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: bluestreak81 ()
Date: November 03, 2011 09:03AM

Another key item is will Centreville stay healthy. They have multiple kids who play both ways and Westfield has none. This could prove to be critical as they have as many as 6 games left to to win the state title.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 03, 2011 01:16PM

Ok, ok, here is the REAL scoop on local high school football. I am an impartial observer who watches as many games as I can around the tri-state area. The way things really are...

Ashburn is the King of Local Football. Stone Bridge, Broad Run, and Briar Woods all have under 2,000 students, and can compete with ANY team in the area, no matter what their size. Heck, you could combine Broad Run and Stone Bridge and have about the same amount of kids as in the larger Div 6 schools in Fairfax. A combined Broad Run/ Stone Bridge team defeats Westfields or Centreville by two scores or more. That is just the way it is.

The Rt 28 Corridor rules the roost. SB, BR, Briar, Westfields, C-Ville and Chantilly all located within 20 minutes of one another - no school more than three miles from Rt 28. Economic development has been a boon to the football programs in these areas.

The Concorde District is still king, but don't sleep on Cedar Run District. Battlefield and Osbourn have very strong programs, and both are HUGE schools in terms of population. Look and see how they did last year.

Yorktown is counterfeit. Sorry, just the way it is. They lose to SB by at least 14, maybe much more.

Northern Virginia is stronger than Maryland, and MUCH stronger than DC. Sorry, Washington Post, but there is more depth and more talent in Northern Virginia, and has been for years. Dematha wouldn't finish higher than third ( maybe as low as fifth!) in the Concorde. Traditional Maryland powers don't stack up that well either, and Maryland names more state champions than just about any state except New Jersey. ( By the way, NJ and PA both are much stronger than Maryland.) And sorry, Chocolate City, but DC football is simply atrocious. For years, Ballou has come to Nova to play, and is usually sent packing. Then, they go and run through the public school league.

Centreville will win their region, and so will Stone Bridge.

Look for Battlefield to take Div 6 in NW - same with Broad Run in Div 5.

Briar Woods will win AA Div 4 states.

All in all, sports fans, we should feel very lucky to have so much talent and perhaps just as importantly, such great coaching in this area.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Real Truthhh ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:40PM

First off, the WCAC is stronger than any of the leagues in DC, MD, and VA. Dematha's freshman teams could beat some of the varsity teams in Virginia. You're crazy if you think that Dematha, which sends out multiple kids to FBS football programs EVERY YEAR would not win the Concorde. You are obviously biased; I hope you understand that future 4 and 5 star recruits were on Dematha's freshman teams a few years ago. And Dematha hasn't even been that great since Coker left (you know, Iowa's starting runningback), and Good Counsel has been the best program in DC, MD, and VA the past couple of years. Depth and talent? There are maybe 2 kids in the Northern region who can even run in the 4.5s in the 40. Why don't you take a look at current D1 FBS teams rosters and see how the WCAC compares to all of Northern Virginia, you saying VA has more depth and talent makes you look stupid. Dematha has more 3 star players on its team than all of Northern Virginia combined.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Response to the DC sympathizer ()
Date: November 03, 2011 02:08PM

Ok, so you pick the one program in DC that happens to recruit from the entire area to try and make your point? Silly, bro. Great retort by the way, to mention a RB from Iowa, like that kid is some stud or something. How about the QB's from NOVA that can be found all over the ACC?
The original post wan't perfect, but much closer to the truth than your response. DC has a FEW outstanding athletes but rarely do they have any depth or the discipline of a Northern VA team..
Oh, and your example of Good Counsel? Another private school that happens to be in Maryland.
I think the original poster was speaking of public schools, and not football factories that recruit better than U of Maryland to get their kids.
I happen to agree with you that Good Counsel and Dematha are as good as top VA teams, but comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: "DC Sympathizer" ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:00PM

The guy said that Dematha would be 3rd, possibly 5th place in the Concorde. That is a joke. DC public schools have put out some good players, but overall, they have not been very good (Dunbar was a while back with Benn). The only problem I had was when he basically said the Concorde is stronger than the WCAC, which is what I implied when he mentioned DC and Dematha in the same sentence. He is correct on pretty much everything else. And remember, the "few" DC athletes are still better than the few NOVA ones. Look at the players who've dominated NOVA, they wouldn't even start at some WCAC schools. Now Nebrich and Zannelatto, they could play. Which is why the are playing FBS football. And the Iowa runningback I mentioned? Yeah, maybe if you followed college football, you'd know he is arguably the best runningback in the big ten...and future at least 3rd round draft pick. And the qb's from NOVA all around the ACC? Recently, you mean only Glennon? NOVA does not produce nearly the talent the WCAC or even possibly DC does. You really do not want to start a list comparing players from just one WCAC team to NOVA ones playing college football. And DeMatha and Good Counsel are not possibly as good as the top NOVA teams, they are better. Centreville doesn't have 220 pound plus runningbacks that run 4.5 on their team, ever. Theyll have a kid whose 5-8, 190, and runs a 4.9. In years past, Dematha has had double digit players over 300 pounds on their roster, who could play. And Dematha is very down currently, but would annihilate all but few NOVA teams.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Faded Glory ()
Date: November 03, 2011 05:18PM

Hasn't Dematha lost three games so far this year, including one just recently to Gonzaga? (BTW, the Post is in complete denial about this.) It's an understatement to say that Dematha is very down right now...and given their tradition of winning and their ability to recruit players from anywhere in the area,how could this happen? If Westfield, Oakton, C-ville, or Chantilly could recruit players from across Fairfax they'd never lose a game.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Yes but.. ()
Date: November 03, 2011 05:57PM

Dematha is at its worse since before their current players were born. They changed their coach. But they would still beat down most of NOVA badly. Please stop using the recruiting excuse, yes they can recruit, which is why they are not worse than Westfield and Centreville. Good Counsel would WAX both Westfield and Centreville. The weakest team in the WCAC would compete with the best in NOVA as well. I think Stone Bridge can technically recruit players, as students get to choose high school (I know there are certain restrictions). Anyways, the WCAC is the strongest league in the area, but back to Northern Region football-

Westfield wins D6 playoffs; Stone Bridge wins D5.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Stone Bridge Grad ()
Date: November 03, 2011 06:16PM

Loudoun County kids do not get to choose where they go to school. Families move into the area and choose to live in areas that attend school at Stone Bridge, or Briar Woods, or Broad Run. For the last time, Loudoun kids CAN NOT choose where they go to school!

Ok, enough with throwing out Good Counsel and Dematha. You do realize that they are PRIVATE schools that recruit ALL of their kids, don't you?

You want facts: Virginia public school football is better than Maryland, and Maryland public school football is better than DC. Bonus nugget: Except for Martinsburg, West Virginia is pretty bad as well.

Centreville beats Westfield in 6 finals - count on it.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: ^^^Please Read ()
Date: November 03, 2011 07:15PM

All the kids are not recruited who play for the private schools, so you're wrong. For basketball, yes, but not entirely for football. The only reason those two schools were brought up is because someone said they would be third in the Concorde district. And if you ask certain coaches around the area, they believe Stone Bridge does "recruit" their players. Some say they get the players to just move into that area or claim residency so that they can play. I personally know of one who was not in the boundary, but still went there-to play football.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 03, 2011 07:44PM

> 3rd round draft pick. And the qb's from NOVA all
> around the ACC? Recently, you mean only Glennon?

http://www.owlsports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4640&path=football

Coyer played a pretty decent game last...

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: ^^^Sigh ()
Date: November 03, 2011 09:08PM

Because Temple is in the ACC....

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: QWERTY ()
Date: November 03, 2011 10:52PM

Don't forget about Renner at UNC (former West Springfield quarterback). The kid is a stud... I can see him playing on Sundays in a few years

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: just saying ()
Date: November 04, 2011 05:40AM

the WCAC do have some of the best players in the country and Good Counsel is #1 in the area for a good reason and best team in the area. Damatha in the other hand would have trouble against Westfield and Centreville, and yes Damatha sends kids to D1 school because of their reputation they have built. They get college coaches come watch them more than any other schools in the area, but like i said they have earn that. If you put a Manny Smith or Kendal Anderson into a Damatha or Good Counsel they would too be going to top teams in the country and they are both very capable of playing in D1 schools. This year the concord district has been named as the powerhouse in Virginia and has gotten a good reputation even in ESPNrise not just locally. It would be sick if they had a tri-state championship where the best team in VA DC MD and Private school play each other to claim the best team in DC metro area but since thats never going to happen we can only talk!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: roll tide ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:29AM

Have a clue dumb ass!!! The Northern Region puts guys in D1 schools every year also it has dominated D6 football in the state for years. Beating teams from the 757 that are loaded with D1 talent. Every team in the Concorde has won at least 1 State championship except Herndon who should not be in the Concorde. If you want I can list the NFL players out of the Concorde in the last 12 years.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: joe d ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:46AM

Yes there is a pretty good list of NFL players from the Concorde

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Pointless ()
Date: November 04, 2011 12:40PM

There are still more NFL players from DeMatha than all of Northern Virginia over the past 12 years so...please hop off NOVA, those kids you named at Westfield and Centreville wouldn't even see the field at DeMatha and Good Counsel. Fact. Actually Anderson would, but wouldn't get much time at GC. Smith, not so much. And they wouldn't be putting up anywhere near the stats they are now.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: DEStewart01 ()
Date: November 04, 2011 01:54PM

rooting for Wakefield to upset Mount Vernon. And Edison and Mclean to lose as well. So Stuart can get in! i know not likely.

so I feel sorry for Falls Church tonight. theyre gonna get pounded by an angry Stuart team cuz they're missing the playoffs. KEEP THE BELL & GO RAIDERS!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: ummm ()
Date: November 04, 2011 02:46PM

DEStewart01 Wrote:
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> rooting for Wakefield to upset Mount Vernon. And
> Edison and Mclean to lose as well. So Stuart can
> get in! i know not likely.
>
> so I feel sorry for Falls Church tonight. theyre
> gonna get pounded by an angry Stuart team cuz
> they're missing the playoffs. KEEP THE BELL & GO
> RAIDERS!


...all those teams suck.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: steve k2 the hater ()
Date: November 04, 2011 06:39PM

LOL all this talk about Stuart football and they can't even get in the D5 playoffs... The sad part is this is a strong team for them.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Bulldogs9 ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:05PM

Westfield will powm them all!

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: JEB raider ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:14PM

Westfield is not in D5 you stupid idiot. I wouldn't expect a Westfield fan to know any better though.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: this just in ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:23PM

Robinson 20
Chantilly 3

Discuss

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: concorde ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:54PM

Centreville - 42
Oakton - 14

Discuss

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: charger knight ()
Date: November 04, 2011 10:59PM

It was 6-3 until 3 minutes left, Robinson marched down for a td and then recovered a fumble on the ensuing kick off. It wasn't as big a blowout as the score indicated but it was real bad in a string of real bad for Chantilly. Robinson pounded the ball up the middle the whole game and dominated Chantilly's defensive line.

Chantilly died after that Westfield game, sure they were playing better teams, but the offense got less creative, player performance went down, and that team I have seen play the last 5 weeks does not remotely resemble the team from the first 5 weeks. They play with no heart, went 1-4 in the district, and got their ass rocked by a 3 win Robinson team.

They'll be a one and done in the playoffs, there offense is hopeless and the play calling is even worse.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: charger knight ()
Date: November 04, 2011 11:00PM

Nothing to discuss with the Centreville game, they're the best team in the state, Centreville and Westfield are on a whole nother level and they will cruise into the region championship game.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Fairfax Gazette ()
Date: November 04, 2011 11:06PM

In other news...

Lee defeats Annandale 55-0, Annandale ends with a 1-9 record and an embarassing year.

Mclean comes up big with a 21-0 win over Langley, knocking Langley out of the playoffs and taking a spot for themselves, in what was essentially a playoff game.

Westfield 63-7 over Herndon

Centreville 42-14 over Oakton

Robinson 20-3 over Chantilly *the wheels have fallen off at Chantilly.
5 Concorde teams in the D6 Playoffs

upset of the night, I'm hearing W&L knocked off Yorktown but have not confirmed.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Madison ()
Date: November 04, 2011 11:17PM

Madison 24-0 over Marshall

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: wildcat ()
Date: November 05, 2011 12:14AM

Centreville Oakton was 14-7 at half Oakton was playing well then two back to back turnovers inside their own 20 killed them. It was a lot closer then the score indicates. Looking forward to the the rematch round 2 of the playoffs oakton is a good team.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: eat one ()
Date: November 05, 2011 12:46AM

charger knight Wrote:
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> Nothing to discuss with the Centreville game,
> they're the best team in the state, Centreville
> and Westfield are on a whole nother level and they
> will cruise into the region championship game.


Even though Westfield beat them head to head and has a better record? Hmm I don't think so. Westfield is the best team in the state.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Lolwut ()
Date: November 05, 2011 07:19AM

eat one Wrote:
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> charger knight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing to discuss with the Centreville game,
> > they're the best team in the state, Centreville
> > and Westfield are on a whole nother level and
> they
> > will cruise into the region championship game.
>
>
> Even though Westfield beat them head to head and
> has a better record? Hmm I don't think so.
> Westfield is the best team in the state.


C.D hylton is a good contender. (but thats only because they recruited some DeMatha transfers)

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Playoff Pairings ()
Date: November 05, 2011 07:58AM

Division 6

(8) Robinson @ (1) Westfield

(7) Fairfax @ (2) Centreville
*Coach Haddock takes on his former team for the second consecutive year.

(6) Lake Braddock @ (3) Oakton

(5) Chantilly @ (4) West Potomac
*This is assuming WestPo wins today against TC Williams, if they lose, Chantilly will get the home game and be the 4 seed, but I don't see that happening.



Division 5
(8) Langley @ (1) Stone Bridge

(7) Mclean @ (2) Yorktown

(6) Lee @ (3) Hayfield *Best Playoff Game of Round 1

(5) Madison @ (4) South County

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: KaT! ()
Date: November 05, 2011 10:00AM

Will the games be Friday or Sat?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: 1stRound ()
Date: November 05, 2011 10:38AM

KaT! Wrote:
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> Will the games be Friday or Sat?


1st round games are on Friday night, 11/11/11

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: NRFootballfan ()
Date: November 05, 2011 11:48AM

Anyone think Braddock could do something in the playoffs? Although they got off to a pretty bad start, trying to stick with the offense that was once so successful with Nebrich and Zannelato, the past 2 games they have switched to a wildcat offense, where Greg Jones, who is in as the wildcat quarterback most of the time, rushed for 220 yards on 20 carries and 3 TD's against Woodson and 190 yards on 19 carries and 3 TD's against West Springfield. Lake Braddock dominated both games, winning 37-7 and 41-17 respectively. This wasn't very good competition so I wonder if it will work against the likes of Oakton, but Lake Braddock seems to be peaking towards the end of the season.

Thoughts?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: LBBruins ()
Date: November 05, 2011 11:58AM

NRFootballfan Wrote:
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> Anyone think Braddock could do something in the
> playoffs? Although they got off to a pretty bad
> start, trying to stick with the offense that was
> once so successful with Nebrich and Zannelato, the
> past 2 games they have switched to a wildcat
> offense, where Greg Jones, who is in as the
> wildcat quarterback most of the time, rushed for
> 220 yards on 20 carries and 3 TD's against Woodson
> and 190 yards on 19 carries and 3 TD's against
> West Springfield. Lake Braddock dominated both
> games, winning 37-7 and 41-17 respectively. This
> wasn't very good competition so I wonder if it
> will work against the likes of Oakton, but Lake
> Braddock seems to be peaking towards the end of
> the season.
>
> Thoughts?


Couldn't agree more. Braddock will beat Oakton and probably beat Centreville the week after. Both of those two are overrated.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Delusional ()
Date: November 05, 2011 01:01PM

LBBruins Wrote:
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>
> Couldn't agree more. Braddock will beat Oakton and
> probably beat Centreville the week after. Both of
> those two are overrated.


Oakton, maybe, but Centreville, you're dreaming. BTW, Oakton lost their placekicker with a broken leg in the Centreville game, so that could influence the outcome.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: cvhs1996 ()
Date: November 05, 2011 01:14PM

> Oakton, maybe, but Centreville, you're dreaming.
> BTW, Oakton lost their placekicker with a broken
> leg in the Centreville game, so that could
> influence the outcome.


I was at that game and his injury did look pretty painful/severe. But if i recall correctly the backup kicker wasn't too shabby, so maybe it won't effect them that much. Oakton could be "overrated", but there is no way they lose to Braddock in the first round. Centreville will cruise past Fairfax with no problem whatsoever It looks like the Cougars and the Wildcats will see eachother again in 2 weeks. Should be a good one.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: altaloma ()
Date: November 05, 2011 02:24PM

W-L put a good scare into Yorktown, rallying to tie it at 33 in the 4th Quarter. It was an exciting 3 hour game at Greenbrier Stadium, between two of the oldest rivals in the Northern Region. And in the end, good payback for Yorktown, after W-L spoiled its playoff plans last year.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: McDowells2 ()
Date: November 05, 2011 02:44PM

There were a lot of people last night at Greenbrier from that 1970 W-L/Yorktown game where W-L came up with the upset and knocked Yorktown out of contention for the region championship, which it was supposed to win.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: football fan ()
Date: November 05, 2011 02:58PM

i've seen Oakton, Westfield, and Centreville. Centreville and Westfield are both much better teams then Oakton and i'd be shocked if those two dont rematch in the region finals.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 05, 2011 09:02PM

Braddock ain't getting through to the Northern Region title game, It'll be Westfield and Centreville in the Regional title game

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Called it ()
Date: November 05, 2011 09:29PM

Fairfax and Lake braddock will be knocked out first round

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: BruinPride ()
Date: November 05, 2011 10:22PM

Braddock is going to absolutely FUCK oakton. They are not going to have an answer for Greg Jones in the wildcat. We'll be playing Westfield for the Regional title soon enough. Mark my words.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 05, 2011 10:22PM

Called it Wrote:
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> Fairfax and Lake braddock will be knocked out
> first round


oh yeah. as well as Robinson and I dare say that Chantilly could lose as well

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: LOLAHA ()
Date: November 05, 2011 10:46PM

It's so funny that you all thing that LB will suddenly start beating these teams...

They're going to get crushed and be out. Final.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: D5 playoffs ()
Date: November 05, 2011 11:26PM

Anyone giving SoCo a chance to knock off SB in the D5 playoffs?

I haven't seen SoCo play so I don't know how good they are but they've played more D6 schools this year (admittedly not the strongest D6 schools) than SB and the Liberty district has been pretty weak this year (I don't give Madison, Mclean or Langley much of a chance).

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: hahahaha ()
Date: November 06, 2011 12:08AM

Braddock is nothing to talk about in all honesty.

Offense is soft, defense is soft, they don't have any speed. No way in hell they come NEAR Oakton.

Sorry to burst your bubbles.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: yeah buddy ()
Date: November 06, 2011 12:31AM

Chantilly is going to get killed by West Potomic no doubt in my mind

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: State of The Region ()
Date: November 06, 2011 02:51AM

Posted by: NRFootballfan ()

Date: November 05, 2011 11:48AM


Anyone think Braddock could do something in the playoffs? Although they got off to a pretty bad start, trying to stick with the offense that was once so successful with Nebrich and Zannelato, the past 2 games they have switched to a wildcat offense, where Greg Jones, who is in as the wildcat quarterback most of the time, rushed for 220 yards on 20 carries and 3 TD's against Woodson and 190 yards on 19 carries and 3 TD's against West Springfield. Lake Braddock dominated both games, winning 37-7 and 41-17 respectively. This wasn't very good competition so I wonder if it will work against the likes of Oakton, but Lake Braddock seems to be peaking towards the end of the season.

Thoughts?
______________________________

The only thing that they have figured out is that they need the run game to win. The Wildcat has worked the last 3 weeks, but it can only take you so far. Right now, LB has holes, suspect secondary, not all, just a couple of spots and not getting much pass rush up front. Their special teams SUCK, mainly due to personnel, I mean how many times are you going to let teams pooch kick it without getting someone on the hands team that has a clue what to do. Offensively, even with the wildcat, the offensive line is suspect and needs to work on basic skills. This playoff season for Braddock will be an uphill climb! Oakton has very good size and solid ball players on both sided of the ball.


Bruin Pride - don't get too confident, or you'll get your feelings hurt. This team has yet to put all 3 parts of the game together and this is the time of the year that it hurts you most.

Westfield Bulldog - While you guys are a very good team, and clearly the favorite to win the region, that Robinson match up you are facing is no cake walk, don't be the first 1 to get knocked off by an 8.

Haha..... - Great way to put that heat on Oakton, truth or not, that will be b-board material in the locker room.

West Potomac is a very dangerous team and Chantilly will be in for a dog fight.

Centreville might have the easiest road to hoe, Fairfax could surpise, but I seriously doubt it.

SoCo is very dangerous in the 5 and Hayfield could make some noise

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: anklebitter ()
Date: November 06, 2011 03:00PM

when does the list for all-region all districts and allmet players get released?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: WhatsThat ()
Date: November 06, 2011 06:19PM

anklebitter Wrote:
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> when does the list for all-region all districts
> and allmet players get released?


You have bitter ankles?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Date: November 07, 2011 12:53AM

@ State of the Region

Very good point, Robinson won't be a cake walk and they never have been a cake walk. We'll be ready to throw our best punches right at them and we'll be ready to fight hard and proud, we won't over look this game.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: upset ()
Date: November 07, 2011 12:29PM

I think Fairfax has a better shot at beating Centreville then Robinson does beating Westfield.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: CVBetterThanWF ()
Date: November 07, 2011 02:13PM

upset Wrote:
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> I think Fairfax has a better shot at beating
> Centreville then Robinson does beating Westfield.


Incorrect. That is all.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: November 07, 2011 03:17PM

CVBetterThanWF Wrote:
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> upset Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think Fairfax has a better shot at beating
> > Centreville then Robinson does beating
> Westfield.
>
>
> Incorrect. That is all.


I agree with CVBetterThanWF (his post, not his name). Fairfax is coming into this game ice cold and with their inability to score points coupled with C'Ville's defense I wouldn't be surprised if Fairfax's only points (if they score any) come against 3rd-teamers in the 4th quarter. By contrast, Robinson held Westfield's offense to only 2 offensive TDs in their previous meeting.

Do I think either Fairfax or Robinson will score the upset on Friday night? Of course not. But in terms of who has the harder game, I certainly believe that Westfield has the harder of the two matchups.

As far as CVBetterThanWF's name is concerned, it is just not true (right now). I think one could make the argument that Centreville outplayed Westfield two weeks ago, but good teams find ways to win even when they aren't at their best. If that means relying on turnovers and the kicking game to win, so be it. I'm guessing that C'ville would much rather have a 10-0 record than a 9-1-but-we-outplayed-those-guys record.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: All District ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:22PM

Anyone know where to find the concorde all district teams?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: all district ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:24PM

any ideas for who will make the all district team as far as the patriot district goes?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: concordefan ()
Date: November 07, 2011 08:23PM

can someone post the list of the 1rst, 2nd, and honorable mention teams for the concorde district?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: Steve K2 ()
Date: November 08, 2011 01:48AM

I heard Pisarcik from Westfield got first team over Masker from Oakton. Is that true? Kind of a shame. Masker had a heck of a lot more talent, just didn't have the kind of weapons that Pisarcik had. Two very good QB's though, maybe the two best in the region.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: shame ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:01AM

Pisarcik was first team QB while Masker was named first team utility

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:10AM

The one above me is a fake, flattered though that people value my opinions. I haven't heard who got the awards yet for all-district, but Pisarcik is definitely more deserving of the award than Masker. While Pisarcik had a lot more weapons he hit Basil countless times on the deep route, can hit the fade, and run when he has to.

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: DEStewart01 ()
Date: November 08, 2011 10:05AM

Stuart finished 6-4 = above .500 for the first time since 1995. And that makes back to back .500 or better seasons. It's a hell of a coaching job with their demographics. They shouldve beaten Hayfield and Mt Vernon, but they blew it. The bad news this was probably their best shot at the district. Theyre very senior heavy except in the secondary. There is one bright spot for next year, despite losing the Qb and RB, who were 2 year starters. The OL and DL have underclassmen who are just as big as the senior starters. At least they'll stay big up front.

Stuart 54 Falls Church 26

KEEPING THE BELL WHERE IT BELONGS

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: all district? ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:06AM

when do the all district teams come out? if they have can we get a link?

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Re: 2011 Northern Region HS Football
Posted by: what the ()
Date: November 08, 2011 01:31PM

i heard they are out. just don't know where to find them

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