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Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
kXLv4
()
Date: October 28, 2016 01:52PM
Harriett Allen Wrote:
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> Vote NO for meals tax = Pay 100% of tax increases
> next year
>
> Vote YES for meals tax = County residents pay only
> 72% of tax increase (and can self-select not to
> eat out and pay the tax)
Wrong. Every resident will pay 100% of the tax either way. What someone else pays doesn't affect what percentage you pay one bit. Any additional spending by 'outsiders' only affects the county's total take. It does not offset any of what you pay.
Tax increases for next year have already been assessed. You will pay those regardless. The only effect of the meals tax is that you would pay that much more. There is no stated or implied reduction to any other taxes with enactment of the tax. It is purely in addition to.
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> Vote NO for meals tax = Pay 100% of tax increases
> next year
>
> Vote YES for meals tax = County residents pay only
> 72% of tax increase (and can self-select not to
> eat out and pay the tax)
Wrong. Every resident will pay 100% of the tax either way. What someone else pays doesn't affect what percentage you pay one bit. Any additional spending by 'outsiders' only affects the county's total take. It does not offset any of what you pay.
Tax increases for next year have already been assessed. You will pay those regardless. The only effect of the meals tax is that you would pay that much more. There is no stated or implied reduction to any other taxes with enactment of the tax. It is purely in addition to.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
bystander2
()
Date: October 28, 2016 05:45PM
This thread really proves just how ignorant people who are against the meals tax are.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 28, 2016 05:52PM
bystander2 Wrote:
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> This thread really proves just how ignorant people
> who are against the meals tax are.
Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
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> This thread really proves just how ignorant people
> who are against the meals tax are.
Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Carport Tax
()
Date: October 28, 2016 06:37PM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
>
>
> Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
Ignore him. He's just an Asshole...
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> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
>
>
> Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
Ignore him. He's just an Asshole...
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Fairfax county tax assessor
()
Date: October 28, 2016 06:49PM
All the home with vote no on the meals tax signs in their yards are going to have a generous increase in their homes value next year.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Mr Assessor
()
Date: October 28, 2016 06:55PM
Fairfax county tax assessor Wrote:
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> All the home with vote no on the meals tax signs
> in their yards are going to have a generous
> increase in their homes value next year.
Ha! That would require extra work on the part of a county employee, fat chance of that happening.
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> All the home with vote no on the meals tax signs
> in their yards are going to have a generous
> increase in their homes value next year.
Ha! That would require extra work on the part of a county employee, fat chance of that happening.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Sins of Omission
()
Date: October 28, 2016 06:55PM
Fairfax county tax assessor Wrote:
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> All the home with vote no on the meals tax signs
> in their yards are going to have a generous
> increase in their homes value next year.
You forgot to mention that all of those with vote yes or with no signs also will have a generous increase with or without the meals tax.
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> All the home with vote no on the meals tax signs
> in their yards are going to have a generous
> increase in their homes value next year.
You forgot to mention that all of those with vote yes or with no signs also will have a generous increase with or without the meals tax.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
we7CN
()
Date: October 28, 2016 07:45PM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
>
>
> Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
He's just trolling.
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> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
>
>
> Would you care to elaborate? Specifics, please.
He's just trolling.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
county employee
()
Date: October 29, 2016 07:05AM
This is your last warning citizens, vote yes or else! You can pay the easy way or the hard way. I can assure you that approving the meals tax is the easy way.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
vCWxn
()
Date: October 29, 2016 08:53AM
we7CN Wrote:
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> He's just trolling.
Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County residents when everyone knows that tons of people who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day. That's just dumb.
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> He's just trolling.
Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County residents when everyone knows that tons of people who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day. That's just dumb.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Teachers union
()
Date: October 29, 2016 09:25AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> There is a perfect solution to the meals tax
> dilemma. If the School Board would resign en
> masse today the meals tax would pass with a 20
> percent margin. That is a guarantee.
Fuck you asshole. You are lucky to be living in a county with one of the best public school systems in the world. Being at the top of the list costs money and plenty of it. How about you move away or better yet kill yourself to make room for some decent people to move to the county?
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> There is a perfect solution to the meals tax
> dilemma. If the School Board would resign en
> masse today the meals tax would pass with a 20
> percent margin. That is a guarantee.
Fuck you asshole. You are lucky to be living in a county with one of the best public school systems in the world. Being at the top of the list costs money and plenty of it. How about you move away or better yet kill yourself to make room for some decent people to move to the county?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 29, 2016 10:22AM
vCWxn Wrote:
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> we7CN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's just trolling.
>
> Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how
> dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy
> who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County
> residents when everyone knows that tons of people
> who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day.
> That's just dumb.
That is not even what he was saying. He was saying that each and every meal in Fairfax County will carry that four percent burden. While the total amount paid by outsiders is 28 percent, over a couple of years that amount will be wasted by either the BOS or School Board so at the end of the day that outside revenue is totally irrelevant.
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> we7CN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's just trolling.
>
> Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how
> dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy
> who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County
> residents when everyone knows that tons of people
> who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day.
> That's just dumb.
That is not even what he was saying. He was saying that each and every meal in Fairfax County will carry that four percent burden. While the total amount paid by outsiders is 28 percent, over a couple of years that amount will be wasted by either the BOS or School Board so at the end of the day that outside revenue is totally irrelevant.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 29, 2016 10:25AM
Teachers union Wrote:
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> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is a perfect solution to the meals tax
> > dilemma. If the School Board would resign en
> > masse today the meals tax would pass with a 20
> > percent margin. That is a guarantee.
>
>
> Fuck you asshole. You are lucky to be living in a
> county with one of the best public school systems
> in the world. Being at the top of the list costs
> money and plenty of it. How about you move away or
> better yet kill yourself to make room for some
> decent people to move to the county?
That point is FACT and irrefutable! Kiss it!
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> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is a perfect solution to the meals tax
> > dilemma. If the School Board would resign en
> > masse today the meals tax would pass with a 20
> > percent margin. That is a guarantee.
>
>
> Fuck you asshole. You are lucky to be living in a
> county with one of the best public school systems
> in the world. Being at the top of the list costs
> money and plenty of it. How about you move away or
> better yet kill yourself to make room for some
> decent people to move to the county?
That point is FACT and irrefutable! Kiss it!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 29, 2016 10:33AM
county employee Wrote:
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> This is your last warning citizens, vote yes or
> else! You can pay the easy way or the hard way. I
> can assure you that approving the meals tax is the
> easy way.
The BOS knows full well that they have maxed out the Real Property tax without getting evicted from their cushy FFX government office in the next election. For that reason, it will force both the BOS and School Board to examine programs for effectiveness, duplicate spending, wasteful spending (ie consultant contracts to unqualified contractors), and make hard decisions. This is what we are paying them to do rather than attending conferences, turning the school system into a social experiment lab and raising their own salaries by 85 percent!
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> This is your last warning citizens, vote yes or
> else! You can pay the easy way or the hard way. I
> can assure you that approving the meals tax is the
> easy way.
The BOS knows full well that they have maxed out the Real Property tax without getting evicted from their cushy FFX government office in the next election. For that reason, it will force both the BOS and School Board to examine programs for effectiveness, duplicate spending, wasteful spending (ie consultant contracts to unqualified contractors), and make hard decisions. This is what we are paying them to do rather than attending conferences, turning the school system into a social experiment lab and raising their own salaries by 85 percent!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
a case in point
()
Date: October 29, 2016 11:58AM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> county employee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is your last warning citizens, vote yes or
> > else! You can pay the easy way or the hard way.
> I
> > can assure you that approving the meals tax is
> the
> > easy way.
>
> The BOS knows full well that they have maxed out
> the Real Property tax without getting evicted from
> their cushy FFX government office in the next
> election. For that reason, it will force both the
> BOS and School Board to examine programs for
> effectiveness, duplicate spending, wasteful
> spending (ie consultant contracts to unqualified
> contractors), and make hard decisions. This is
> what we are paying them to do rather than
> attending conferences, turning the school system
> into a social experiment lab and raising their own
> salaries by 85 percent!
FCPS doesn't just manage to hire unqualified contractors, some of them even end up targets of grand jury investigations!
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-fcps-consultant-menville-flip-flippen-investigated-by-california-grand-jury/
Where is the FCPS auditor when we need one? On paid leave, of course!
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> county employee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is your last warning citizens, vote yes or
> > else! You can pay the easy way or the hard way.
> I
> > can assure you that approving the meals tax is
> the
> > easy way.
>
> The BOS knows full well that they have maxed out
> the Real Property tax without getting evicted from
> their cushy FFX government office in the next
> election. For that reason, it will force both the
> BOS and School Board to examine programs for
> effectiveness, duplicate spending, wasteful
> spending (ie consultant contracts to unqualified
> contractors), and make hard decisions. This is
> what we are paying them to do rather than
> attending conferences, turning the school system
> into a social experiment lab and raising their own
> salaries by 85 percent!
FCPS doesn't just manage to hire unqualified contractors, some of them even end up targets of grand jury investigations!
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-fcps-consultant-menville-flip-flippen-investigated-by-california-grand-jury/
Where is the FCPS auditor when we need one? On paid leave, of course!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
PH6DJ
()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:46PM
vCWxn Wrote:
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> we7CN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's just trolling.
>
> Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how
> dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy
> who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County
> residents when everyone knows that tons of people
> who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day.
> That's just dumb.
Rresidents will pay 100% of the tax. When they buy a taxable item, they will pay the entire tax at an additional 4%. What someone else pays does not affect what they pay. What the county recieves in total revenue from the tax including any additional tax from non-residents does not affect what they will pay. It's intentionally misleading to claim otherwise.
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> we7CN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He's just trolling.
>
> Perhaops, but the thread certainly has shown how
> dumb opponents of the meals tax are. Like the guy
> who claims the tax would be 100% paid by County
> residents when everyone knows that tons of people
> who live elsewhere would pay the tax every day.
> That's just dumb.
Rresidents will pay 100% of the tax. When they buy a taxable item, they will pay the entire tax at an additional 4%. What someone else pays does not affect what they pay. What the county recieves in total revenue from the tax including any additional tax from non-residents does not affect what they will pay. It's intentionally misleading to claim otherwise.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
get off my lawn
()
Date: October 29, 2016 01:59PM
The meals tax is greatly needed and the fact that it will be partially paid by non residents makes it a no-brainer. Vote YES!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
7hpJC
()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:10PM
tax on the poor meals tax is so that this fool can use the little girls room...and instead of gender confused teens growing strong and becoming awesome moms and dads...meal tax money pays for them to stay confused and become this dude
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Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Reverse Robinhood
()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:14PM
get off my lawn Wrote:
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> The meals tax is greatly needed and the fact that
> it will be partially paid by non residents makes
> it a no-brainer. Vote YES!
Not when it just offsets about the same amount of money that would be brought in by commercial real estate taxes otherwise at a lower cost to residents. A meals tax will cost most county residents more and it subsidizes businesses and wealthy property owners at the expense of residents, especially those at the lower end.
Vote no against the unfair meals tax.
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> The meals tax is greatly needed and the fact that
> it will be partially paid by non residents makes
> it a no-brainer. Vote YES!
Not when it just offsets about the same amount of money that would be brought in by commercial real estate taxes otherwise at a lower cost to residents. A meals tax will cost most county residents more and it subsidizes businesses and wealthy property owners at the expense of residents, especially those at the lower end.
Vote no against the unfair meals tax.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
yes voter
()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:31PM
Fuck all you NO voters.
Stop posting on this thread.
Stop posting on this thread.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Crazyyou
()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:49PM
read my words below..
FUCK NO!
FUCK NO!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
YpPUE
()
Date: October 29, 2016 05:30PM
The kicker is that the County is forced by the state to rely on a very narrow range of revenue sources. We have long put too much focus on property taxes and property owners. The Meals Tax is a means for shifting some of that burden off onto non-County residents in the same way that theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us. Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Fair Share
()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:11PM
The only burden being shifted is from commercial property owners, defense contractors, multi-billion tech companies, and wealthy developers who own the BOS off onto residents
Don't subsidize SAIC's, Oracle's, and Donald Trump's real estate taxes.
Vote no.
Don't subsidize SAIC's, Oracle's, and Donald Trump's real estate taxes.
Vote no.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
nude7
()
Date: October 29, 2016 07:30PM
^This.
The School Board is willing to back almost any proposal that would give them more money. The Board of Supervisors were willing to go along because it wouldn't piss off the Chamber of Commerce crowd, and to hell with the residents.
The School Board is willing to back almost any proposal that would give them more money. The Board of Supervisors were willing to go along because it wouldn't piss off the Chamber of Commerce crowd, and to hell with the residents.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
copperfield ct
()
Date: October 30, 2016 07:36AM
YpPUE Wrote:
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> The kicker is that the County is forced by the
> state to rely on a very narrow range of revenue
> sources. We have long put too much focus on
> property taxes and property owners. The Meals Tax
> is a means for shifting some of that burden off
> onto non-County residents in the same way that
> theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
> Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting last Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think this tax will pass by a narrow margin.
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> The kicker is that the County is forced by the
> state to rely on a very narrow range of revenue
> sources. We have long put too much focus on
> property taxes and property owners. The Meals Tax
> is a means for shifting some of that burden off
> onto non-County residents in the same way that
> theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
> Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting last Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think this tax will pass by a narrow margin.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
a teeecher
()
Date: October 30, 2016 10:14AM
copperfield ct Wrote:
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> YpPUE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The kicker is that the County is forced by the
> > state to rely on a very narrow range of revenue
> > sources. We have long put too much focus on
> > property taxes and property owners. The Meals
> Tax
> > is a means for shifting some of that burden off
> > onto non-County residents in the same way that
> > theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
> > Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
>
>
> You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting last
> Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think this
> tax will pass by a narrow margin.
Anyone who has kids in FCPS better hope and pray the meals tax is approved.
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> YpPUE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The kicker is that the County is forced by the
> > state to rely on a very narrow range of revenue
> > sources. We have long put too much focus on
> > property taxes and property owners. The Meals
> Tax
> > is a means for shifting some of that burden off
> > onto non-County residents in the same way that
> > theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
> > Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
>
>
> You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting last
> Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think this
> tax will pass by a narrow margin.
Anyone who has kids in FCPS better hope and pray the meals tax is approved.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Vote yes please
()
Date: October 30, 2016 01:41PM
EOM
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
v4fnv
()
Date: October 30, 2016 02:25PM
a teeecher Wrote:
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> copperfield ct Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > YpPUE Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The kicker is that the County is forced by
> the
> > > state to rely on a very narrow range of
> revenue
> > > sources. We have long put too much focus on
> > > property taxes and property owners. The
> Meals
> > Tax
> > > is a means for shifting some of that burden
> off
> > > onto non-County residents in the same way
> that
> > > theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
>
> > > Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
> >
> >
> > You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting
> last
> > Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think
> this
> > tax will pass by a narrow margin.
>
>
> Anyone who has kids in FCPS better hope and pray
> the meals tax is approved.
The kids won't get any even of whatever smaller portion actually makes it to the schools. All of it only about covers the annual increase (not total cost) in healthcare benefits for teachers. Anyone thinking that this is going to part for improving anything related to education or kids is dreaming.
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> copperfield ct Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > YpPUE Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The kicker is that the County is forced by
> the
> > > state to rely on a very narrow range of
> revenue
> > > sources. We have long put too much focus on
> > > property taxes and property owners. The
> Meals
> > Tax
> > > is a means for shifting some of that burden
> off
> > > onto non-County residents in the same way
> that
> > > theie jurisdictions shift tax burden onto us.
>
> > > Invest in Fairfax -- vote YES!
> >
> >
> > You are exactly right. We had a HOA meeting
> last
> > Thursday and everyone is voting yes. I think
> this
> > tax will pass by a narrow margin.
>
>
> Anyone who has kids in FCPS better hope and pray
> the meals tax is approved.
The kids won't get any even of whatever smaller portion actually makes it to the schools. All of it only about covers the annual increase (not total cost) in healthcare benefits for teachers. Anyone thinking that this is going to part for improving anything related to education or kids is dreaming.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
milepost67
()
Date: October 30, 2016 04:10PM
Lots of misinformation posted here. The Meals tax is a great idea and everyone should be voting yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Doug Fischer
()
Date: October 30, 2016 04:13PM
How bout we dont subsidize state employees transportation (metro fares)? Thatll save us far more than 40 million.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
anonffxuser
()
Date: October 30, 2016 04:25PM
You enjoy the smell of your own farts don't you? #SmugAlert
bystander2 Wrote:
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> This thread really proves just how ignorant people
> who are against the meals tax are.
bystander2 Wrote:
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> This thread really proves just how ignorant people
> who are against the meals tax are.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
ok go on
()
Date: October 30, 2016 04:50PM
anonffxuser Wrote:
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> You enjoy the smell of your own farts don't you?
> #SmugAlert
>
> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan-is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip" Flippen's legal fees?
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> You enjoy the smell of your own farts don't you?
> #SmugAlert
>
> bystander2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> people
> > who are against the meals tax are.
It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan-is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip" Flippen's legal fees?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
IF patrol
()
Date: October 30, 2016 08:47PM
milepost67 Wrote:
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> Lots of misinformation posted here. The Meals tax
> is a great idea and everyone should be voting yes.
Yes, anyone against the meals tax is an ignorant fuck.
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> Lots of misinformation posted here. The Meals tax
> is a great idea and everyone should be voting yes.
Yes, anyone against the meals tax is an ignorant fuck.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
substantiation?
()
Date: October 30, 2016 09:03PM
IF patrol Wrote:
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> milepost67 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lots of misinformation posted here. The Meals
> tax
> > is a great idea and everyone should be voting
> yes.
>
>
> Yes, anyone against the meals tax is an ignorant
> fuck.
It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan-is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip" Flippen's legal fees?
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> milepost67 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lots of misinformation posted here. The Meals
> tax
> > is a great idea and everyone should be voting
> yes.
>
>
> Yes, anyone against the meals tax is an ignorant
> fuck.
It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan-is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip" Flippen's legal fees?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: October 31, 2016 04:01AM
ok go on Wrote:
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> anonffxuser Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You enjoy the smell of your own farts don't
> you?
> > #SmugAlert
> >
> > bystander2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> > people
> > > who are against the meals tax are.
>
> It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
>
> https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2
> 016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan
> -is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
>
> Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax
> apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip"
> Flippen's legal fees?
Not only is the tax relief a bit of fiction but the actual increase in school spending is in no way guaranteed. Depending upon the fiscal environment, the Board of Supervisors are going to transfer the amount of money that they deem necessary to operate the School System. Should something happen to cause a decrease in real estate assessments or if sales tax receipts decrease which will cause a decrease in grants from the state the so called $70 million from the meals tax will disappear overnight. Neither the School Board or the Board of Supervisors are legally committed to use the funds in the manner in which is stated on the referendum. For all we know, the School Board may choose to use the funds to fund sex change operations for our transgender students or the Board of Supervisors could use the funds to attract a gun manufacturer to Fairfax County. There are no legal limitations to the use of the funds --just good faith statements from politicians (LOL).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2016 04:02AM by Inquisitive One.
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> anonffxuser Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You enjoy the smell of your own farts don't
> you?
> > #SmugAlert
> >
> > bystander2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This thread really proves just how ignorant
> > people
> > > who are against the meals tax are.
>
> It is clear that "tax relief" is a fiction:
>
> https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2
> 016/10/23/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-to-fail-to-plan
> -is-to-plan-to-fail-where-is-the-tax-relief/
>
> Can you please cite any other benefit of this tax
> apart from its use to fund Menville "Flip"
> Flippen's legal fees?
Not only is the tax relief a bit of fiction but the actual increase in school spending is in no way guaranteed. Depending upon the fiscal environment, the Board of Supervisors are going to transfer the amount of money that they deem necessary to operate the School System. Should something happen to cause a decrease in real estate assessments or if sales tax receipts decrease which will cause a decrease in grants from the state the so called $70 million from the meals tax will disappear overnight. Neither the School Board or the Board of Supervisors are legally committed to use the funds in the manner in which is stated on the referendum. For all we know, the School Board may choose to use the funds to fund sex change operations for our transgender students or the Board of Supervisors could use the funds to attract a gun manufacturer to Fairfax County. There are no legal limitations to the use of the funds --just good faith statements from politicians (LOL).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2016 04:02AM by Inquisitive One.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
one thing for sure..........
()
Date: October 31, 2016 04:58AM
Please everyone vote yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Cutwt
()
Date: October 31, 2016 06:57AM
one thing for sure.......... Wrote:
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> Please everyone vote yes.
um, no.
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> Please everyone vote yes.
um, no.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Informed comment
()
Date: October 31, 2016 09:17AM
"I'm afraid if you give these folks (FCPS School Board) too much money they're going to start doing some goofy things, instead of just educating kids. I'm really very anxious about giving the School Board more money sometimes - you're going to see political correctness run amok; so I'm going to vote against the Meals Tax this time."
Tom Davis WMAL Sept 30,2016
Tom Davis WMAL Sept 30,2016
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Just say NO NO NO!
()
Date: October 31, 2016 09:31AM
Why give these assholes more money to waste on bullshit?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
very well said
()
Date: October 31, 2016 10:00AM
Just say NO NO NO! Wrote:
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> Why give these assholes more money to waste on
> bullshit?
+1
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-the-great-mindulness-muddle-a-pattern-emerges/
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> Why give these assholes more money to waste on
> bullshit?
+1
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-the-great-mindulness-muddle-a-pattern-emerges/
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
everyone
()
Date: October 31, 2016 01:24PM
one thing for sure.......... Wrote:
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> Please everyone vote yes.
Okay I will.
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> Please everyone vote yes.
Okay I will.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
wild man
()
Date: November 01, 2016 12:22PM
king county Wrote:
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> All you ignorant fucks need to stop with your
> anti-meals tax bullshit. This is a great tax
> because the rich will pay more of it than the poor
> and a third of the revenue will come from
> non-residents. We all need to vote YES!!!
You are right.
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> All you ignorant fucks need to stop with your
> anti-meals tax bullshit. This is a great tax
> because the rich will pay more of it than the poor
> and a third of the revenue will come from
> non-residents. We all need to vote YES!!!
You are right.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
DLptc
()
Date: November 01, 2016 12:41PM
Vote no
until FCPS enacts some efficiency measures and stops the wasteful spending. Same goes for the greedy BOS.
until FCPS enacts some efficiency measures and stops the wasteful spending. Same goes for the greedy BOS.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Joan34
()
Date: November 01, 2016 12:47PM
I will not vote in favor of this tax! The school board has not cut there atrocious spending. What was the point in asking the public for recommendations for cuts? They did not cut anything.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Joan34
()
Date: November 01, 2016 12:47PM
I will not vote in favor of this tax! The school board has not cut there atrocious spending. What was the point in asking the public for recommendations for cuts? They did not cut anything.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
wasted money
()
Date: November 01, 2016 01:31PM
one thing for sure.......... Wrote:
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> Please everyone vote yes.
Why? More than half the money will go into the pockets of Boosterthon, something we don't need. How about cutting taxes for once instead of wasting it all on prograns?
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> Please everyone vote yes.
Why? More than half the money will go into the pockets of Boosterthon, something we don't need. How about cutting taxes for once instead of wasting it all on prograns?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
a good place to start
()
Date: November 01, 2016 02:07PM
wasted money Wrote:
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> one thing for sure.......... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Please everyone vote yes.
>
>
> Why? More than half the money will go into the
> pockets of Boosterthon, something we don't need.
> How about cutting taxes for once instead of
> wasting it all on prograns?
How about cutting expenses, maybe starting with Boosterthon as it is a scam anyway?
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> one thing for sure.......... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Please everyone vote yes.
>
>
> Why? More than half the money will go into the
> pockets of Boosterthon, something we don't need.
> How about cutting taxes for once instead of
> wasting it all on prograns?
How about cutting expenses, maybe starting with Boosterthon as it is a scam anyway?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Parsons Table
()
Date: November 01, 2016 02:30PM
Vote YES on the Fairfax County Meals-for-Schools Surcharge. If you are against the Surcharge, eat one more meal at home versus dining out.
Eat at home:
-less cost
-no taxes
-no tips
-no crowds
-no wait
-better quality food, wine, beer, and liquor
-less salt
-less fat
-no DUI on the way home
-second helpings if you want
-no boogers or spit in the food
-no crying babies
-no whining, out-of-control kids
-no unobservant parents kowtowing to their kids' every demand
-no strollers
-no noise
-the music I like
-far less diarrhea
Eat at home:
-less cost
-no taxes
-no tips
-no crowds
-no wait
-better quality food, wine, beer, and liquor
-less salt
-less fat
-no DUI on the way home
-second helpings if you want
-no boogers or spit in the food
-no crying babies
-no whining, out-of-control kids
-no unobservant parents kowtowing to their kids' every demand
-no strollers
-no noise
-the music I like
-far less diarrhea
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
meals
()
Date: November 01, 2016 03:26PM
Parsons Table Wrote:
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> Vote YES on the Fairfax County Meals-for-Schools
> Surcharge. If you are against the Surcharge, eat
> one more meal at home versus dining out.
Well if you like the surcharge so much maybe you could just send the school board a cash donation each week versus dining out.
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> Vote YES on the Fairfax County Meals-for-Schools
> Surcharge. If you are against the Surcharge, eat
> one more meal at home versus dining out.
Well if you like the surcharge so much maybe you could just send the school board a cash donation each week versus dining out.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Meals Tax is 4 Losers
()
Date: November 01, 2016 03:28PM
Joan34 Wrote:
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> I will not vote in favor of this tax! The school
> board has not cut there atrocious spending. What
> was the point in asking the public for
> recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> anything.
To make us feel like we're in a democracy. LoLz.
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> I will not vote in favor of this tax! The school
> board has not cut there atrocious spending. What
> was the point in asking the public for
> recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> anything.
To make us feel like we're in a democracy. LoLz.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 01, 2016 03:51PM
Meals Tax is 4 Losers Wrote:
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> Joan34 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will not vote in favor of this tax! The
> school
> > board has not cut there atrocious spending.
> What
> > was the point in asking the public for
> > recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> > anything.
>
>
> To make us feel like we're in a democracy. LoLz.
It is so sad that there is so much truth to that statement! Another Charlie Brown kicking the football moment.
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> Joan34 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will not vote in favor of this tax! The
> school
> > board has not cut there atrocious spending.
> What
> > was the point in asking the public for
> > recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> > anything.
>
>
> To make us feel like we're in a democracy. LoLz.
It is so sad that there is so much truth to that statement! Another Charlie Brown kicking the football moment.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Professor Gramms Grammarly
()
Date: November 01, 2016 04:36PM
What an idiot! Apparently the Meals Tax is needed to fund more English grammar lessons for the learned citizenry of Fairfax County
Joan34 writes: The school board has not cut there atrocious spending.
Did you mean "their" instead of "there"? The correct usage is "its."
"There" is the opposite of here. It means 'in that place' not here.
"Their" is a possessive adjective which is used before a noun. It shows possession, that something belongs to them.
Because "the school board" is considered a singular noun, you would have to use the personal pronoun “its” instead of "their" (or "there" -- you moron)!
Joan34 writes: The school board has not cut there atrocious spending.
Did you mean "their" instead of "there"? The correct usage is "its."
"There" is the opposite of here. It means 'in that place' not here.
"Their" is a possessive adjective which is used before a noun. It shows possession, that something belongs to them.
Because "the school board" is considered a singular noun, you would have to use the personal pronoun “its” instead of "their" (or "there" -- you moron)!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Vote No Please and Thanks!
()
Date: November 01, 2016 04:42PM
Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> Meals Tax is 4 Losers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Joan34 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I will not vote in favor of this tax! The
> > school
> > > board has not cut there atrocious spending.
> > What
> > > was the point in asking the public for
> > > recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> > > anything.
> >
> >
> > To make us feel like we're in a democracy.
> LoLz.
>
>
> It is so sad that there is so much truth to that
> statement! Another Charlie Brown kicking the
> football moment.
DEMOCRACY? Are you kidding? The School Board has now moved to SJW's platform that they will not cave to the 'whims of the majority"
I think I'm a pretty fair person and I rarely considered the minority opinion a "whim"…it had merit to them, I just felt differently.
I don't have a clue where we are headed now but I'm sure glad I no longer have school age kids. I'm voting no because I want to see transparency and democracy. Show me that and tell me why the auditor is on paid leave and why no "resolution/commitment" was made by the SB that it would go to the salaries first. Maybe in the future I'd rethink my position. Too late for this go around.
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> Meals Tax is 4 Losers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Joan34 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I will not vote in favor of this tax! The
> > school
> > > board has not cut there atrocious spending.
> > What
> > > was the point in asking the public for
> > > recommendations for cuts? They did not cut
> > > anything.
> >
> >
> > To make us feel like we're in a democracy.
> LoLz.
>
>
> It is so sad that there is so much truth to that
> statement! Another Charlie Brown kicking the
> football moment.
DEMOCRACY? Are you kidding? The School Board has now moved to SJW's platform that they will not cave to the 'whims of the majority"
I think I'm a pretty fair person and I rarely considered the minority opinion a "whim"…it had merit to them, I just felt differently.
I don't have a clue where we are headed now but I'm sure glad I no longer have school age kids. I'm voting no because I want to see transparency and democracy. Show me that and tell me why the auditor is on paid leave and why no "resolution/commitment" was made by the SB that it would go to the salaries first. Maybe in the future I'd rethink my position. Too late for this go around.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
think about it
()
Date: November 01, 2016 08:16PM
You will vote yes if you just use your brain and think about it.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Budget expert
()
Date: November 02, 2016 08:08PM
If you vote against the meals tax you are a complete zero. That's just the way it is, there is no alternative.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
tippy taco eater
()
Date: November 03, 2016 05:53AM
This thread really proves just how ignorant people who are against the meals tax are.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
restoreable one
()
Date: November 03, 2016 07:51AM
Everyone I have talked to except for a couple ignorant white guys are voting yes on the meals tax. Looks like it is going to be approved.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
county employee
()
Date: November 03, 2016 10:51AM
restoreable one Wrote:
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> Everyone I have talked to except for a couple
> ignorant white guys are voting yes on the meals
> tax. Looks like it is going to be approved.
Yes it looks like it will be approved. The schools have been sending letters home with all the kids asking the parents to vote yes.
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> Everyone I have talked to except for a couple
> ignorant white guys are voting yes on the meals
> tax. Looks like it is going to be approved.
Yes it looks like it will be approved. The schools have been sending letters home with all the kids asking the parents to vote yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
bumptard
()
Date: November 05, 2016 07:29AM
This is a good thread that needs tha BUMP.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
2nd grade teacher
()
Date: November 05, 2016 08:59AM
This referendum is NOT a joke people! It is VERY important that all of you vote in favor of the meals tax. Your children or grandchildren will suffer greatly if the meals tax is not approved.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
spite vote
()
Date: November 05, 2016 09:03AM
Budget expert Wrote:
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> If you vote against the meals tax you are a
> complete zero. That's just the way it is, there is
> no alternative.
I'm voting no purely out of spite. The notion of cancelling out someone like this is more then enough to get me to the voting booth on the 8th, I'm actually looking forward to it.
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> If you vote against the meals tax you are a
> complete zero. That's just the way it is, there is
> no alternative.
I'm voting no purely out of spite. The notion of cancelling out someone like this is more then enough to get me to the voting booth on the 8th, I'm actually looking forward to it.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
milesbern
()
Date: November 05, 2016 09:51AM
I got a letter from my kid's school principal encouraging us to vote yes but I felt it contained a hint of a threat. It was somewhat disturbing.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
anticlinton
()
Date: November 05, 2016 10:04AM
FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A MEALS TAX! DING DONG!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
IF patrol
()
Date: November 05, 2016 10:16AM
anticlinton Wrote:
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> FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
> DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS BECAUSE
> THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A MEALS
> TAX! DING DONG!
Sorry but you have just proven that you are in fact an ignorant fuck.
Vote Yes.
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> FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
> DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS BECAUSE
> THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A MEALS
> TAX! DING DONG!
Sorry but you have just proven that you are in fact an ignorant fuck.
Vote Yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
over and over and over again
()
Date: November 05, 2016 10:40AM
IF patrol Wrote:
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> anticlinton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> > ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> > UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
>
> > DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> > ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS
> BECAUSE
> > THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> > ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A
> MEALS
> > TAX! DING DONG!
>
>
> Sorry but you have just proven that you are in
> fact an ignorant fuck.
>
> Vote Yes.
Why does casting a "no" vote on the meals tax make someone an ignorant fuck? It would seem that the mere fact of FCPS' documented history of wasteful spending would argue against the meals tax. If there is some compelling reason to vote for this tax (besides freeing up more money to waste on yoga teaching basketball coaches), you might want to present it here.
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> anticlinton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> > ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> > UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
>
> > DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> > ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS
> BECAUSE
> > THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> > ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A
> MEALS
> > TAX! DING DONG!
>
>
> Sorry but you have just proven that you are in
> fact an ignorant fuck.
>
> Vote Yes.
Why does casting a "no" vote on the meals tax make someone an ignorant fuck? It would seem that the mere fact of FCPS' documented history of wasteful spending would argue against the meals tax. If there is some compelling reason to vote for this tax (besides freeing up more money to waste on yoga teaching basketball coaches), you might want to present it here.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 05, 2016 01:21PM
anticlinton Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
> DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS BECAUSE
> THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A MEALS
> TAX! DING DONG!
Fairfax is not having trouble attracting teachers because of starting pay nor are they losing young teachers because of pay issues. They are leaving because they want to move on!
-------------------------------------------------------
> FALSE! IT WILL GIVE TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL
> ADIMINISTRATORS A RAISE. STOP LETTING
> UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE TO ENTER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
> DO SOME COST CONTROL IN SCHOOLS. CUT THE
> ASSISTANT TO THE ASSISTANT JOB POSITIONS BECAUSE
> THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE TOP HEAVY IN
> ADMINISTRATION! AND THEN YOU WON'T NEED A MEALS
> TAX! DING DONG!
Fairfax is not having trouble attracting teachers because of starting pay nor are they losing young teachers because of pay issues. They are leaving because they want to move on!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
left lane
()
Date: November 05, 2016 02:01PM
libliblib Wrote:
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> Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> take this tax and shove it right up your asses and
> you will pay it because we will make you pay it.
> The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> important. The fact that conservatards are against
> it is all it takes for us to make sure it passes.
> You can never go wrong in life if you go against
> anything the right is in favor of.
That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
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> Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> take this tax and shove it right up your asses and
> you will pay it because we will make you pay it.
> The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> important. The fact that conservatards are against
> it is all it takes for us to make sure it passes.
> You can never go wrong in life if you go against
> anything the right is in favor of.
That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
LLW3Y
()
Date: November 05, 2016 03:35PM
left lane Wrote:
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> libliblib Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> > take this tax and shove it right up your asses
> and
> > you will pay it because we will make you pay
> it.
> > The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> > important. The fact that conservatards are
> against
> > it is all it takes for us to make sure it
> passes.
> > You can never go wrong in life if you go
> against
> > anything the right is in favor of.
>
>
> That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
Yeah, you're really going to show us by voting for a regressive tax on a basic human necessity which benefits wealthy 1%er property owners and evil defense contractors and other corporations.
lol
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> libliblib Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> > take this tax and shove it right up your asses
> and
> > you will pay it because we will make you pay
> it.
> > The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> > important. The fact that conservatards are
> against
> > it is all it takes for us to make sure it
> passes.
> > You can never go wrong in life if you go
> against
> > anything the right is in favor of.
>
>
> That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
Yeah, you're really going to show us by voting for a regressive tax on a basic human necessity which benefits wealthy 1%er property owners and evil defense contractors and other corporations.
lol
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
polls show.......
()
Date: November 06, 2016 06:37AM
....... It will be close but the meals tax will be approved.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
tippy taco eater
()
Date: November 06, 2016 01:21PM
left lane Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> libliblib Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> > take this tax and shove it right up your asses
> and
> > you will pay it because we will make you pay
> it.
> > The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> > important. The fact that conservatards are
> against
> > it is all it takes for us to make sure it
> passes.
> > You can never go wrong in life if you go
> against
> > anything the right is in favor of.
>
>
> That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
I noticed a sign in Tippy's asking everyone to vote yes on the meals tax. If tippys is in favor of the tax then so am I.
-------------------------------------------------------
> libliblib Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Guess what conservatards? We lib's are going to
> > take this tax and shove it right up your asses
> and
> > you will pay it because we will make you pay
> it.
> > The issue of weather the tax is needed is not
> > important. The fact that conservatards are
> against
> > it is all it takes for us to make sure it
> passes.
> > You can never go wrong in life if you go
> against
> > anything the right is in favor of.
>
>
> That is very true. I'm going to vote yes.
I noticed a sign in Tippy's asking everyone to vote yes on the meals tax. If tippys is in favor of the tax then so am I.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
fcpsempoyeenomealtax
()
Date: November 06, 2016 01:54PM
I work for the school i am not supporting the meal tax !how much bull shit money have we spent on this battelle for kids now Garza is working for them .. I smell a rat I got a 1 percent raise and now I have to pay more for food ?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
zinc coated
()
Date: November 06, 2016 02:18PM
county employee Wrote:
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> The meals tax will generate over 40 million in
> revenue mostly from non county residents. It is a
> great way to raise much needed funds!
It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I will vote yes.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The meals tax will generate over 40 million in
> revenue mostly from non county residents. It is a
> great way to raise much needed funds!
It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I will vote yes.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
NoThanks
()
Date: November 06, 2016 02:58PM
I will vote NO
This is an additional tax for tax already paid..
it's just being presented in a different way "Prepared".
What's next ..when will it be enough.
I vote NO
This is an additional tax for tax already paid..
it's just being presented in a different way "Prepared".
What's next ..when will it be enough.
I vote NO
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: November 06, 2016 02:58PM
zinc coated Wrote:
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> It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I
> will vote yes.
I assume you mean you also don't spend money on any of the other possible food transactions the meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax will do exactly what the County says it will, increase County revenues without significantly affecting the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the County, but self interest is as good a reason as any for how you vote.
What some of us find reprehensible is how meals tax supporters are telling people "it will allow us to tax nonresidents" when most of the revenue will come from Fairfax County residents, "its only a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually will amount to the same or more for many homeowners than if real estate taxes were raised, "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when there are no plans to decrease real property taxes if the meals tax passes and the primary beneficiaries are commercial property owners, or the favorite "it will only be on restaurant sales-we would never tax that" when if you look at what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax are doing, they do tax that. When you add to this the possibility a rejection of the meals tax might cause County officials to re-evaluate their spending priorities, a NO vote is the best course for many.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I
> will vote yes.
I assume you mean you also don't spend money on any of the other possible food transactions the meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax will do exactly what the County says it will, increase County revenues without significantly affecting the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the County, but self interest is as good a reason as any for how you vote.
What some of us find reprehensible is how meals tax supporters are telling people "it will allow us to tax nonresidents" when most of the revenue will come from Fairfax County residents, "its only a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually will amount to the same or more for many homeowners than if real estate taxes were raised, "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when there are no plans to decrease real property taxes if the meals tax passes and the primary beneficiaries are commercial property owners, or the favorite "it will only be on restaurant sales-we would never tax that" when if you look at what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax are doing, they do tax that. When you add to this the possibility a rejection of the meals tax might cause County officials to re-evaluate their spending priorities, a NO vote is the best course for many.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Lawerence
()
Date: November 07, 2016 05:18AM
Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> zinc coated Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I
> > will vote yes.
>
> I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> any of the other possible food transactions the
> meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax will
> do exactly what the County says it will, increase
> County revenues without significantly affecting
> the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> County, but self interest is as good a reason as
> any for how you vote.
>
> What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> tax supporters are telling people "it will allow
> us to tax nonresidents" when most of the revenue
> will come from Fairfax County residents, "its only
> a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> will amount to the same or more for many
> homeowners than if real estate taxes were raised,
> "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> there are no plans to decrease real property taxes
> if the meals tax passes and the primary
> beneficiaries are commercial property owners, or
> the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> sales-we would never tax that" when if you look at
> what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> are doing, they do tax that. When you add to this
> the possibility a rejection of the meals tax might
> cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> spending priorities, a NO vote is the best course
> for many.
I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an investment. What little money is raised from the meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in the future. Everyone in my family and most of my neighbors are voting yes because it's the right thing to do.
-------------------------------------------------------
> zinc coated Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so I
> > will vote yes.
>
> I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> any of the other possible food transactions the
> meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax will
> do exactly what the County says it will, increase
> County revenues without significantly affecting
> the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> County, but self interest is as good a reason as
> any for how you vote.
>
> What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> tax supporters are telling people "it will allow
> us to tax nonresidents" when most of the revenue
> will come from Fairfax County residents, "its only
> a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> will amount to the same or more for many
> homeowners than if real estate taxes were raised,
> "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> there are no plans to decrease real property taxes
> if the meals tax passes and the primary
> beneficiaries are commercial property owners, or
> the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> sales-we would never tax that" when if you look at
> what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> are doing, they do tax that. When you add to this
> the possibility a rejection of the meals tax might
> cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> spending priorities, a NO vote is the best course
> for many.
I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an investment. What little money is raised from the meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in the future. Everyone in my family and most of my neighbors are voting yes because it's the right thing to do.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
could use some clarification
()
Date: November 07, 2016 07:09AM
I was talking to an extended family member the other day who insisted that 70% of the proceeds of the tax HAD to go to the schools. Absolutely had to, it was written in stone.
My friend who is against the tax however, insists that the opposite is true and that the tax was written in a way so as to be ambiguous as to where the money was going.
Now I'm just confused, is 70% going to the schools if it passes or not??
My friend who is against the tax however, insists that the opposite is true and that the tax was written in a way so as to be ambiguous as to where the money was going.
Now I'm just confused, is 70% going to the schools if it passes or not??
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
clarification
()
Date: November 07, 2016 08:37AM
The Board of Supervisors decides each year how much money to grant to the School Board for funding FCPS. This has been approximately 51% of the total tax receipts of the County in the recent past. The Meals Tax will increase the tax revenues of the County. There is NO requirement that the BOS increase funding to FCPS or pass any increase in tax revenues to the School Board or FCPS.
So the Meals Tax will increase the overall tax take (these are the funds the BOS uses to pay for all kinds of services) but there is no guarantee that the BOS will send more money to the FCPS. And further, the SB/Administration decide how to use funds allocated to them but there is no guarantee or requirement that any funds be allocated specifically to e.g. teachers salaries (this ignores the requirements that accompany many funds received from the State and Federal governments).
So - listen to Tom Davis, former Chair of the Fairfax Board of Supervisors and Congressman for Fairfax District: "I'm afraid if you give these folks (FCPS School Board) too much money they're going to start doing some goofy things, instead of just educating kids. I'm really very anxious about giving the School Board more money sometimes - you're going to see political correctness run amok; so I'm going to vote against the Meals Tax this time."
So the Meals Tax will increase the overall tax take (these are the funds the BOS uses to pay for all kinds of services) but there is no guarantee that the BOS will send more money to the FCPS. And further, the SB/Administration decide how to use funds allocated to them but there is no guarantee or requirement that any funds be allocated specifically to e.g. teachers salaries (this ignores the requirements that accompany many funds received from the State and Federal governments).
So - listen to Tom Davis, former Chair of the Fairfax Board of Supervisors and Congressman for Fairfax District: "I'm afraid if you give these folks (FCPS School Board) too much money they're going to start doing some goofy things, instead of just educating kids. I'm really very anxious about giving the School Board more money sometimes - you're going to see political correctness run amok; so I'm going to vote against the Meals Tax this time."
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Vote YES!
()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:39AM
county employee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on
> November 8th
How could I forget!
Vote yes on the bond issues, too!
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> Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on
> November 8th
How could I forget!
Vote yes on the bond issues, too!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Count Me Out
()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:43AM
Lawerence Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > zinc coated Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so
> I
> > > will vote yes.
> >
> > I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> > any of the other possible food transactions the
> > meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax
> will
> > do exactly what the County says it will,
> increase
> > County revenues without significantly affecting
> > the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> > "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> > County, but self interest is as good a reason
> as
> > any for how you vote.
> >
> > What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> > tax supporters are telling people "it will
> allow
> > us to tax nonresidents" when most of the
> revenue
> > will come from Fairfax County residents, "its
> only
> > a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> > will amount to the same or more for many
> > homeowners than if real estate taxes were
> raised,
> > "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> > there are no plans to decrease real property
> taxes
> > if the meals tax passes and the primary
> > beneficiaries are commercial property owners,
> or
> > the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> > sales-we would never tax that" when if you look
> at
> > what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> > are doing, they do tax that. When you add to
> this
> > the possibility a rejection of the meals tax
> might
> > cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> > spending priorities, a NO vote is the best
> course
> > for many.
>
>
> I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is
> educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an
> investment. What little money is raised from the
> meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in
> the future. Everyone in my family and most of my
> neighbors are voting yes because it's the right
> thing to do.
Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful spending? Vote for a tax targeting the elderly and disabled?
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/03/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-the-meals-tax-targets-the-elderly-and-disabled/
Sorry, can't do that. If FCPC can't teach the kids on the money it has, it needs new leadership.
I'd recommend term limiting the school board.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > zinc coated Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so
> I
> > > will vote yes.
> >
> > I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> > any of the other possible food transactions the
> > meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax
> will
> > do exactly what the County says it will,
> increase
> > County revenues without significantly affecting
> > the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> > "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> > County, but self interest is as good a reason
> as
> > any for how you vote.
> >
> > What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> > tax supporters are telling people "it will
> allow
> > us to tax nonresidents" when most of the
> revenue
> > will come from Fairfax County residents, "its
> only
> > a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> > will amount to the same or more for many
> > homeowners than if real estate taxes were
> raised,
> > "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> > there are no plans to decrease real property
> taxes
> > if the meals tax passes and the primary
> > beneficiaries are commercial property owners,
> or
> > the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> > sales-we would never tax that" when if you look
> at
> > what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> > are doing, they do tax that. When you add to
> this
> > the possibility a rejection of the meals tax
> might
> > cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> > spending priorities, a NO vote is the best
> course
> > for many.
>
>
> I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is
> educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an
> investment. What little money is raised from the
> meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in
> the future. Everyone in my family and most of my
> neighbors are voting yes because it's the right
> thing to do.
Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful spending? Vote for a tax targeting the elderly and disabled?
https://fairfaxvotenoonthemealstax.wordpress.com/2016/10/03/vote-no-on-the-meals-tax-the-meals-tax-targets-the-elderly-and-disabled/
Sorry, can't do that. If FCPC can't teach the kids on the money it has, it needs new leadership.
I'd recommend term limiting the school board.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
yentasd2ad
()
Date: November 07, 2016 11:03AM
with or without the meals tax, FCPS won't make the cuts they need to in administration.
with or without the meals tax, I will still see a 7-10% property tax increase next year.
with or without the meals tax, I will still see a 7-10% property tax increase next year.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Same dumbass
()
Date: November 07, 2016 11:05AM
Lawerence Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > zinc coated Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so
> I
> > > will vote yes.
> >
> > I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> > any of the other possible food transactions the
> > meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax
> will
> > do exactly what the County says it will,
> increase
> > County revenues without significantly affecting
> > the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> > "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> > County, but self interest is as good a reason
> as
> > any for how you vote.
> >
> > What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> > tax supporters are telling people "it will
> allow
> > us to tax nonresidents" when most of the
> revenue
> > will come from Fairfax County residents, "its
> only
> > a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> > will amount to the same or more for many
> > homeowners than if real estate taxes were
> raised,
> > "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> > there are no plans to decrease real property
> taxes
> > if the meals tax passes and the primary
> > beneficiaries are commercial property owners,
> or
> > the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> > sales-we would never tax that" when if you look
> at
> > what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> > are doing, they do tax that. When you add to
> this
> > the possibility a rejection of the meals tax
> might
> > cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> > spending priorities, a NO vote is the best
> course
> > for many.
>
>
> I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is
> educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an
> investment. What little money is raised from the
> meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in
> the future. Everyone in my family and most of my
> neighbors are voting yes because it's the right
> thing to do.
Bullshit.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > zinc coated Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It is a great plan. I never eat out anyway so
> I
> > > will vote yes.
> >
> > I assume you mean you also don't spend money on
> > any of the other possible food transactions the
> > meals tax will reach. For you the meals tax
> will
> > do exactly what the County says it will,
> increase
> > County revenues without significantly affecting
> > the taxes you pay. Sure you are giving a giant
> > "FUCK YOU" to most of those who reside in the
> > County, but self interest is as good a reason
> as
> > any for how you vote.
> >
> > What some of us find reprehensible is how meals
> > tax supporters are telling people "it will
> allow
> > us to tax nonresidents" when most of the
> revenue
> > will come from Fairfax County residents, "its
> only
> > a few cents or a few dollars" when it actually
> > will amount to the same or more for many
> > homeowners than if real estate taxes were
> raised,
> > "it will provide tax relief to homeowners" when
> > there are no plans to decrease real property
> taxes
> > if the meals tax passes and the primary
> > beneficiaries are commercial property owners,
> or
> > the favorite "it will only be on restaurant
> > sales-we would never tax that" when if you look
> at
> > what other jurisdictions who have the meals tax
> > are doing, they do tax that. When you add to
> this
> > the possibility a rejection of the meals tax
> might
> > cause County officials to re-evaluate their
> > spending priorities, a NO vote is the best
> course
> > for many.
>
>
> I think you are wrong Bill. Our schools system is
> educating future taxpayers. The meals tax is an
> investment. What little money is raised from the
> meals tax now will be returned 10 fold or more in
> the future. Everyone in my family and most of my
> neighbors are voting yes because it's the right
> thing to do.
Bullshit.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
it has to end sometime
()
Date: November 07, 2016 11:27AM
yentasd2ad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> with or without the meals tax, FCPS won't make the
> cuts they need to in administration.
>
> with or without the meals tax, I will still see a
> 7-10% property tax increase next year.
The Board of Supervisors know they will be voted out if taxes keep increasing.
As test scores continue to decline, there will be more and more animosity towards the school board and its wasteful spending on consultants, administrators, auditors on paid leave and turf fields.
-------------------------------------------------------
> with or without the meals tax, FCPS won't make the
> cuts they need to in administration.
>
> with or without the meals tax, I will still see a
> 7-10% property tax increase next year.
The Board of Supervisors know they will be voted out if taxes keep increasing.
As test scores continue to decline, there will be more and more animosity towards the school board and its wasteful spending on consultants, administrators, auditors on paid leave and turf fields.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
e lecter
()
Date: November 07, 2016 12:02PM
the meals tax is a fantastic way to enhance revenue. Vote yes!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
FIFY
()
Date: November 07, 2016 12:10PM
e lecter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> the meals tax is a poor way to enhance
> revenue at the expense of local residents. Vote no!
^FIFY
-------------------------------------------------------
> the meals tax is a poor way to enhance
> revenue at the expense of local residents. Vote no!
^FIFY
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Shit of the Bull!
()
Date: November 07, 2016 12:33PM
Count Me Out Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> spending?
Do you believe that there is any tax that does not enable wasteful spending?
Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of government's primary function?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> spending?
Do you believe that there is any tax that does not enable wasteful spending?
Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of government's primary function?
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:21PM
clarification Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Board of Supervisors decides each year how
> much money to grant to the School Board for
> funding FCPS. This has been approximately 51% of
> the total tax receipts of the County in the recent
> past. The Meals Tax will increase the tax
> revenues of the County. There is NO requirement
> that the BOS increase funding to FCPS or pass any
> increase in tax revenues to the School Board or
> FCPS.
>
> So the Meals Tax will increase the overall tax
> take (these are the funds the BOS uses to pay for
> all kinds of services) but there is no guarantee
> that the BOS will send more money to the FCPS.
> And further, the SB/Administration decide how to
> use funds allocated to them but there is no
> guarantee or requirement that any funds be
> allocated specifically to e.g. teachers salaries
> (this ignores the requirements that accompany many
> funds received from the State and Federal
> governments).
>
> So - listen to Tom Davis, former Chair of the
> Fairfax Board of Supervisors and Congressman for
> Fairfax District: "I'm afraid if you give these
> folks (FCPS School Board) too much money they're
> going to start doing some goofy things, instead of
> just educating kids. I'm really very anxious about
> giving the School Board more money sometimes -
> you're going to see political correctness run
> amok; so I'm going to vote against the Meals Tax
> this time."
This is totally correct! The Board of Supervisors decides how much to allocate each year to the School System. The advertised allocation is based on a good faith effort to provide 70 percent to the schools, however, there is no legal requirement.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Board of Supervisors decides each year how
> much money to grant to the School Board for
> funding FCPS. This has been approximately 51% of
> the total tax receipts of the County in the recent
> past. The Meals Tax will increase the tax
> revenues of the County. There is NO requirement
> that the BOS increase funding to FCPS or pass any
> increase in tax revenues to the School Board or
> FCPS.
>
> So the Meals Tax will increase the overall tax
> take (these are the funds the BOS uses to pay for
> all kinds of services) but there is no guarantee
> that the BOS will send more money to the FCPS.
> And further, the SB/Administration decide how to
> use funds allocated to them but there is no
> guarantee or requirement that any funds be
> allocated specifically to e.g. teachers salaries
> (this ignores the requirements that accompany many
> funds received from the State and Federal
> governments).
>
> So - listen to Tom Davis, former Chair of the
> Fairfax Board of Supervisors and Congressman for
> Fairfax District: "I'm afraid if you give these
> folks (FCPS School Board) too much money they're
> going to start doing some goofy things, instead of
> just educating kids. I'm really very anxious about
> giving the School Board more money sometimes -
> you're going to see political correctness run
> amok; so I'm going to vote against the Meals Tax
> this time."
This is totally correct! The Board of Supervisors decides how much to allocate each year to the School System. The advertised allocation is based on a good faith effort to provide 70 percent to the schools, however, there is no legal requirement.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
stand and deliver
()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:25PM
Shit of the Bull! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
For some time, people have been asking FCPS to justify certain expenses: mindfulness, the Buck institute, the leadership retreats, working meals, $80,000/month on travel, large numbers of administrators and so on.
All FCPS has to say-if anything-is that the money was spent properly.
Without transparency, waste is a good presumption.
Giving them more money means they will have more to waste. Just look, the auditor has been on paid leave for months!
Much of what they say about the meals tax is nothing but propaganda: tax relief (there are no plans for this) and teacher salaries (FCPS is looking at MAJOR expenditures on the Stuart school renaming and the transgender facilities). It would not come as a surprise if Sharon Bulova had a portrait of Stalin in her office, she is a grand master of the big lie.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
For some time, people have been asking FCPS to justify certain expenses: mindfulness, the Buck institute, the leadership retreats, working meals, $80,000/month on travel, large numbers of administrators and so on.
All FCPS has to say-if anything-is that the money was spent properly.
Without transparency, waste is a good presumption.
Giving them more money means they will have more to waste. Just look, the auditor has been on paid leave for months!
Much of what they say about the meals tax is nothing but propaganda: tax relief (there are no plans for this) and teacher salaries (FCPS is looking at MAJOR expenditures on the Stuart school renaming and the transgender facilities). It would not come as a surprise if Sharon Bulova had a portrait of Stalin in her office, she is a grand master of the big lie.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Inquisitive One
()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:26PM
Shit of the Bull! Wrote:
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> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
Additional funds will not change the past behavior of both the BOS and the School Boards. Both Boards have a history of questionable spending and bad decisions regarding the budgetary process. Also, as Tom Davis states, the School Board has a habit of spending heavily on very expensive and trendy social engineering initiatives. Additional funds will only encourage this disturbing behavior.
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> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
Additional funds will not change the past behavior of both the BOS and the School Boards. Both Boards have a history of questionable spending and bad decisions regarding the budgetary process. Also, as Tom Davis states, the School Board has a habit of spending heavily on very expensive and trendy social engineering initiatives. Additional funds will only encourage this disturbing behavior.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2016 01:27PM by Inquisitive One.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
mG4WY
()
Date: November 07, 2016 02:50PM
Shit of the Bull! Wrote:
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> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
What makes you think opposition to the Meals Tax comes from the far right? The No Meals Tax campaign is something that is bringing together Republicans, Independents and even many Democrats.
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> Count Me Out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote for a tax that enables more wasteful
> > spending?
>
> Do you believe that there is any tax that does not
> enable wasteful spending?
>
> Isn't wasteful spending your opinion of
> government's primary function?
What makes you think opposition to the Meals Tax comes from the far right? The No Meals Tax campaign is something that is bringing together Republicans, Independents and even many Democrats.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
pointed jersey wall
()
Date: November 07, 2016 07:45PM
Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools in civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
No meals tax there either
()
Date: November 07, 2016 08:28PM
pointed jersey wall Wrote:
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> Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools in
> civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
I hate to break it to you but most of the schools that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are in TX.
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> Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools in
> civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
I hate to break it to you but most of the schools that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are in TX.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Homeboy
()
Date: November 07, 2016 09:05PM
Fuck the meals tax. I'll deal with it appropriately tomorrow.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
they get it one way or another
()
Date: November 07, 2016 09:10PM
No meals tax there either Wrote:
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> pointed jersey wall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools in
> > civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
>
>
> I hate to break it to you but most of the schools
> that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are in
> TX.
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> pointed jersey wall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools in
> > civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
>
>
> I hate to break it to you but most of the schools
> that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are in
> TX.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
No income tax there either
()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:21PM
they get it one way or another Wrote:
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> No meals tax there either Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pointed jersey wall Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools
> in
> > > civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
> >
> >
> > I hate to break it to you but most of the
> schools
> > that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are
> in
> > TX.
>
> src="http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/f
> iles/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/Untitled
> -8_2.png"/>
True but doesn't really help the case made.
And TX doesn't have state income tax. Or personal property tax.
Really need to look at the total tax burden. Which is part of why the BOS likes the meals tax since insidious little taxes like that don't appear in a lot of comparisons and they can claim 'gold standard' schools and low real estate taxes. TX is 41st lowest out of 50 states by one count. VA is 39th. Adding a 4% meals tax would bump that up quite a bit.
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> No meals tax there either Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pointed jersey wall Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Give FCPS a fighting chance against schools
> in
> > > civilized areas like NYC, Vote YES!!!!
> >
> >
> > I hate to break it to you but most of the
> schools
> > that consistently kick Fairfax County's ass are
> in
> > TX.
>
> src="http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/f
> iles/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/Untitled
> -8_2.png"/>
True but doesn't really help the case made.
And TX doesn't have state income tax. Or personal property tax.
Really need to look at the total tax burden. Which is part of why the BOS likes the meals tax since insidious little taxes like that don't appear in a lot of comparisons and they can claim 'gold standard' schools and low real estate taxes. TX is 41st lowest out of 50 states by one count. VA is 39th. Adding a 4% meals tax would bump that up quite a bit.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Fistory 101
()
Date: November 08, 2016 04:59AM
Anyone who votes against the meals tax has no soul.
Anyone who votes against the meals tax is a worthless piece of shit.
Vote yes or burn in hell for all eternity.
Anyone who votes against the meals tax is a worthless piece of shit.
Vote yes or burn in hell for all eternity.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
EejLG
()
Date: November 08, 2016 05:51AM
No income tax there either Wrote:
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>
> True but doesn't really help the case made.
>
> And TX doesn't have state income tax. Or personal
> property tax.
>
> Really need to look at the total tax burden.
> Which is part of why the BOS likes the meals tax
> since insidious little taxes like that don't
> appear in a lot of comparisons and they can claim
> 'gold standard' schools and low real estate taxes.
> TX is 41st lowest out of 50 states by one count.
> VA is 39th. Adding a 4% meals tax would bump that
> up quite a bit.
Also that information reflects the typical state rate, not the Fairfax County rate. Fairfax County's rate is well above the typical state rate.
The same entity has a page that breaks real property rates down by County, using effective tax rates. Unfortunately it was from 2010 and didn't reflect all Virginia jurisdictions. Of the 38 Virginia jurisdictions included Fairfax came in 8th highest in terms of rate, and 446th nationally out of 800 jurisdictions. However when you looked at real property taxes paid (rate times property value) Fairfax was then 52nd highest nationally and was above all Virginia jurisdictions except Loudoun (34-337) and Arlington (38-544). It was ahead of Alexandria (59-521), Prince William (124-405) and also Montgomery Co. Maryland (79-502). http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/proptax10_home_value_0.pdf Using current nominal tax rates Fairfax would probably be considerably higher.
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>
> True but doesn't really help the case made.
>
> And TX doesn't have state income tax. Or personal
> property tax.
>
> Really need to look at the total tax burden.
> Which is part of why the BOS likes the meals tax
> since insidious little taxes like that don't
> appear in a lot of comparisons and they can claim
> 'gold standard' schools and low real estate taxes.
> TX is 41st lowest out of 50 states by one count.
> VA is 39th. Adding a 4% meals tax would bump that
> up quite a bit.
Also that information reflects the typical state rate, not the Fairfax County rate. Fairfax County's rate is well above the typical state rate.
The same entity has a page that breaks real property rates down by County, using effective tax rates. Unfortunately it was from 2010 and didn't reflect all Virginia jurisdictions. Of the 38 Virginia jurisdictions included Fairfax came in 8th highest in terms of rate, and 446th nationally out of 800 jurisdictions. However when you looked at real property taxes paid (rate times property value) Fairfax was then 52nd highest nationally and was above all Virginia jurisdictions except Loudoun (34-337) and Arlington (38-544). It was ahead of Alexandria (59-521), Prince William (124-405) and also Montgomery Co. Maryland (79-502). http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/proptax10_home_value_0.pdf Using current nominal tax rates Fairfax would probably be considerably higher.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
Cucks for Clinton
()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:04AM
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
advice not followed
()
Date: November 09, 2016 11:02AM
The meals tax was always a joke. The money would have been used to rename schools, fund a half a million dollar compensation package for a new superintendent, give the school board another raise, hire consultants and build some more turf fields.
"Raises for teachers" and "tax relief" were poor attempts at propaganda. People saw right through it and voted against the meals tax. Now FCPS is in a corner and the teachers, soccer moms and band parents are in an abject state of denial.
"Raises for teachers" and "tax relief" were poor attempts at propaganda. People saw right through it and voted against the meals tax. Now FCPS is in a corner and the teachers, soccer moms and band parents are in an abject state of denial.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
pointing and laughing
()
Date: November 12, 2016 08:34AM
This was one of the most successful troll threads in a long time. Stupid rightards never learn.
Re: Remember to vote in favor of the meals tax on November 8th
Posted by:
E37Tx
()
Date: November 12, 2016 10:10AM
Whatever it was originally intended to be, this thread turned into a great opportunity to develop, discuss and disseminate arguments against the meals tax.