It takes some serious mental gymnastics to look at these two guys, and where they are in their lives and careers, and come up with "pretty much the same." The last four lines on your last post cover the territory. Don took the biggest shot in his personal life you can imagine, and has put his life back together personally and professional. LFF's a self-pitying, self-deluded, ball of failure.

Except Wrote:
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> It takes some serious mental gymnastics to look at
> these two guys, and where they are in their lives
> and careers, and come up with "pretty much the
> same." The last four lines on your last post
> cover the territory. Don took the biggest shot in
> his personal life you can imagine, and has put his
> life back together personally and professional.
> LFF's a self-pitying, self-deluded, ball of
> failure.


My understanding is Don had interest from larger markets like Houston but chose Sacramento because D&M had such a large following there. The station also gave him the control he wanted, hence he has turned the station around.

LFF had the chance to do the same thing. He could have picked a smaller D&M-friendly market. Instead, he chose to "save Citadel" and did a coup de grace to his broadcasting career.

Whatever you think of Don's style, he is a savvy broadcaster. LFF is an oaf who has been self-immolating ever since Don left.

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YEAH!!!! 156 Pages! I swear to God, I had know idea there was this much to talk about when it comes to me. I can't wait to read what you say after the live show, CATastrophe 2012!!!

Come on people, you can talk more about me, try harder!

Dwakkk Wrote:
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> ChadIsFat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Don may not be what he was, but he's not a
> > pitiful
> > > flop like LFF.
> >
> >
> > He's pretty much the exact same thing he always
> > was. Like mike he is a hack morning zoo dj.
> They
> > both suck.
>
> Yeah, Don's the same thing he always was:
> successful.

Was he succesful when he failed out of NYC and begged and pleaded ON AIR for O&A to listen to him and then kept calling in when they hung pu on him? Was he successful when he got pulled over at least twice with drugs in his car?

Don-Bully
Mike-Bully
Don-Egomaniac
Mike-Egomaniac
Don-Prima Donna
Mike-Prima Donna
Don-Outdated style
Mike-Outdated style
Don-Repetitious shows
Mike-Repetitious shows
Don-Addictive personality (somewhat under control)
Mike-Addictive personality (completely out of control)
Don-A moderately successful post-Don & Mike Show career.
Mike-A pathetically collapsing post-Don & Mike Show career.

That sums it up perfectly. Both are wastes of air time.

>Kane and Jack FM are more your speed, because that's what morning radio is like these days. If that's your idea of success, playing faked segments like War of the Roses and pretending they are real, you can have it.

I assume you do not know what you are talking about again. Don and Mike are MORNING ZOO WHACKY DJs... listen while I play fart noises during an interview or show that I don't care about the interview by ignoring the guest more or less! Let me get that sound board working!

They are has beens and that brand of radio is really a sad sad sad relic of 15+ years ago. It's embarassing to lsiten to that shit now.

I have no particular like for any morning talk show on right now but I guess by your metric, Kane is infinitely more talented than Don because he would certainly get better ratings in this market than Don ever could, right? I mean I think he sucks but I guess you would stand by him and declare him really talented.



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Your praise of Kane tells me everything I need to know. You don't know shit about "talent."

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Kane fucking sucks.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Except Wrote:
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> It takes some serious mental gymnastics to look at
> these two guys, and where they are in their lives
> and careers, and come up with "pretty much the
> same." The last four lines on your last post
> cover the territory. Don took the biggest shot in
> his personal life you can imagine, and has put his
> life back together personally and professional.
> LFF's a self-pitying, self-deluded, ball of
> failure.

You may have missed one point of my post. The important difference is that Don's got his addictions under control, and therefore has control of his life. And Mike is out of control and everything is failing.

And by the "same" I don't mean the details of their lives. I meant the same "type". I think if any of us spent a few days with either Mike or Don we'd walk away saying, "What an asshole". You've probably noticed that everyone they work with are afraid of them. Assholes are one type, nice guys another. Nice guys they are not.

And the fact Don has a successful life and show, and that Mike does not, doesn't make Don's show any better. Don's a very sharp businessman, has the courage to take risks, and is very focused and disciplined. So I can see why people here admire him. And he's found a backward part of the country that loves his old 1980's style, so good for him. Though none of this makes him any more entertaining to me. I've listened to his show... "Ponderous man, ponderous."

But to me, the real monster in the story is the driver who killed Frieda.
Because for both Don AND Mike, I don't think the Frieda era shows have ever been equalled. This probably sounds corny, but she had a magical presence that's gone. The accident changed everything.



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"The accident changed everything."

Very deep and profound....

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Your praise of Kane tells me everything I need to
> know. You don't know shit about "talent."


So now you are not only a racist and a liar, but you are illiterate? When I said I didn't like Kane, you are retarded enough to read that as praise? Do you know what 'praise' means?



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ChadIsFat Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> -----
> > Your praise of Kane tells me everything I need
> to
> > know. You don't know shit about "talent."
>
>
> So now you are not only a racist and a liar, but
> you are illiterate? When I said I didn't like
> Kane, you are retarded enough to read that as
> praise? Do you know what 'praise' means?


"Infinitely more talented" sounds like praise to me. Also, knowing who you are now, I totally understand.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:

> "Infinitely more talented" sounds like praise to
> me. Also, knowing who you are now, I totally
> understand.


So you honestly are illiterate. Here is the quote and now you carefully tell the class how this is me praising Kane, ok?

>but I guess by your metric, Kane is infinitely more talented than Don because he would certainly get better ratings in this market than Don ever could, right?

I will wait while you try and figure it out. I'll give you a protip here, all I am doing is making a claim about the ratings, not about talent. The talent claim is the attribution you seem to incorrectly make quite often in this Don vs Mike contest. I guess that when I was showing you how retarded you sound, you managed to sound even more retarded.

Let's even look at my post further since you seem to read it as me thinking Kane has talent. Let's examine another quote of mine (this is from the very same post big guy)

>I have no particular like for any morning talk show on right now



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before Miss Frieda's death I seem to recall donnie g. talked about retiring and moving to Orlando or somewhere down south at the end of the contract

having witness what a poopyhead lff really is from the last several years can't help but wonder if donnie g.'s retirement talk at the time was brought on by exhaustion dealing with lff and sitting on him when he acted like a lazy snit and squeezing his limited comic ability out

btw, donnie g. could certainly act the asshole himself but nothing like what we've seen from lff since he went solow

i would never take anything away from don's accomplishments . . . he busts his ass! i just don't find his show very entertaining. it definitely has it's moments, but just doesn't do anything for me.

was listening to monday's MOM show -- robb had to keep squeezing in the new song he found for oscar . . . wow. :(

I remember Don had put a down payment on a place, in Florida, and he made reference to the fact he was able to get the deposit back after Freda had passed. I think he talked about it on his last day on the DC airwaves.

Don's show in Sacramento is a rehash of the show here with some new players (and not so new players). It's old and tired, but you know what, it works out there. It's not for me, I don't listen, though I did try. Mike has no ideas for a show. He thinks Rob is funny and that is enough. He thinks sitting on his couch is humor enough. I doubt he is even trying to find a job, in radio or otherwise.

he is kinda right on this one...that is not "praise" dude. He was comparing two turds really.


ChadIsFat Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
>
> > "Infinitely more talented" sounds like praise
> to
> > me. Also, knowing who you are now, I totally
> > understand.
>
>
> So you honestly are illiterate. Here is the quote
> and now you carefully tell the class how this is
> me praising Kane, ok?
>
> >but I guess by your metric, Kane is infinitely
> more talented than Don because he would certainly
> get better ratings in this market than Don ever
> could, right?
>
> I will wait while you try and figure it out. I'll
> give you a protip here, all I am doing is making a
> claim about the ratings, not about talent. The
> talent claim is the attribution you seem to
> incorrectly make quite often in this Don vs Mike
> contest. I guess that when I was showing you how
> retarded you sound, you managed to sound even more
> retarded.
>
> Let's even look at my post further since you seem
> to read it as me thinking Kane has talent. Let's
> examine another quote of mine (this is from the
> very same post big guy)
>
> >I have no particular like for any morning talk
> show on right now

Apples vs Oranges?

Apples are better.

They're easier to eat, they taste better, and the crisp bite of an apple can't be beat. And anyone who prefers oranges is an idiot, an ABSOLUTE idiot.

My most enjoyable years listening to the dons and Mikes show was from 1993 to about 1998+ I often would get home from work and just sit in my car listening to the show and truly unhinging my jaw(cringe) or waiting for what was coming up next
I was listening to music on the radio during their morning zoo era at WAVA so i wasn't familiar with them prior to WJFK, well except for that stupid morning zoo tv commercial they did.
But something struck me as very different during the 1990's at WJFK. the whackiness of it and the off the wall guests they'd get and the wild reindeer games they played. hell even the callers brought the funny quite a bit.
this was all during the era of producer Diana Silman. I felt her influence on the show lingered even a few years after she left.
As the 2000's hit the whackiness seemed to leave.

ChadIsFat Wrote:

> Was he succesful when he failed out of NYC and
> begged and pleaded ON AIR for O&A to listen to him
> and then kept calling in when they hung pu on him?


Now there's a typo that evokes a disturbing mental image.

i dunno don Wrote:
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> ...this was all during the era of producer Diana
> Silman. I felt her influence on the show lingered
> even a few years after she left...

I think the show still was good when Shari Elliker was producer, but she left shortly after Don's second (?) coke bust in Fairfax.

Then the producers came and went with the seasons.

Dealing with Donnie G.'s ego fueled by substance abuse and ratings probably wasn't much fun - which would indicate why towards the sad end of the show you had Rob(b) and Beth Ann McBride trying to corral and out of control Geronimo and a hung over O'Meara.

Buzz was, and continues to, nap through the whole era.

well adjusted Wrote:
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> ChadIsFat Wrote:
>
> > Was he succesful when he failed out of NYC and
> > begged and pleaded ON AIR for O&A to listen to
> him
> > and then kept calling in when they hung pu on
> him?
>
>
> Now there's a typo that evokes a disturbing mental
> image.

Hahaha

But yeah, WTL is clearly illiterate.

>I think the show still was good when Shari Elliker was producer, but she left shortly after Don's second (?) coke bust in Fairfax.

I thought she was traffic?

>Dealing with Donnie G.'s ego fueled by substance abuse and ratings probably wasn't much fun - which would indicate why towards the sad end of the show you had Rob(b) and Beth Ann McBride trying to >corral and out of control Geronimo and a hung over O'Meara.

I imagine it was a horrid position for a producer to have to walk in to, which is why they mowed through them so quickly. Everyone hated Don because of his drug fueled mercurial temperament and mike was impossible to manage because he just wanted to do Charlie voices and then leave to drink. Hell, I think Mike would have rather not shown up at all.

Carilita's Thigh Wrote:
> Buzz was, and continues to, nap through the whole
> era.

You can make the case that Buzz is the genius in this deal:

1. Married to first wife; no kids.
2. Normal house in Fairfax City.
3. Has income from years of voiceover.
4. Got paid by D&M and by subsequent LFF JFK failure.
5. Presumably, Buzz is just cruising toward retirement.

Now, his health sucks . . . so there's that.

ChadIsFat Wrote:
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> >I think the show still was good when Shari
> Elliker was producer, but she left shortly after
> Don's second (?) coke bust in Fairfax.
>
> I thought she was traffic?


She was... she left right after Diana, as well. Producer? No.

ChadIsFat Wrote:
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> >I think the show still was good when Shari
> Elliker was producer, but she left shortly after
> Don's second (?) coke bust in Fairfax.
>
> I thought she was traffic?
>
In '06 (I think) XM Radio had a Fan Appreciation Day in the parking lot of the XM building on New York Avenue. I got tickets through the Ron and Fez show and attended.

After Ron and Fez wrapped up their show, Ron and Fez joined "The Broads" show, which included Shari Elliker. Shari told Ron Bennington "we have something in common, we both worked at WJFK". Ron asked her what she did at JFK, and she said she was the producer of the Don and Mike Show.

Ron said "how did that work out for you". Shari said "well, you know...". And Ron responded with: "why does it always work out that way with those guys?".

Probably says more about Donnie G.'s rep, but I'm sure O'Meara was equally out of control and unmanageable.

i remember someone saying before how arrogant robb is. a while ago, i didn't really agree with that . . . i sure as hell do now.

Rob(b) has the same weird arrogance that that d-bag Matt Rosenberg had. "I'm on radio ---> I'm famous."

Carlita's Taint Wrote:
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> TheNorthman Wrote:
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> >
> > LFF, whatever he may have become, never did
> that.
>
> O'Meara's poison is the demon rum. It's led him
> down some pretty embarrassing adventures of late:
>
> - drunken ruckus at Fatty Shack Duex after party
> - fucks up knee in drunken brawl
> - gets bitch-slapped at Manassass bar drinking
> after hours
> - has to sleep in his car in Charles Town because
> he's too drunk to drive
> - gets so drunk on Super Bowl Sunday he can't
> commute to "work" in his house
>
> If you go back further you have other classics
> like stiffing his former employees at "O'Meara's"
> after he had to shutter the place due to Va. ABC
> violations.
>
> I dunno, this should sadden me, but oddly, it
> brings a smile to my face, and then I start of
> laff and laff...

All good points (and funny too). LFF is certainly nowhere near as successful as Don and has had his fair share of consequences related to his drinking.

According to Shari's website http://www.sharielliker.com/main.html#
she was "fourth chair" on the Don and Mike Show. Nothing there about producing, so she was either lying to Fez, or lying on her website.

Anyone that has commented on Robb's behavior back then have said that he was unfriendly, threatened, and back stabby to his peers. That's just from Jormand, Marc, and Lowell. I would have to bet that's why he didn't get a chance at a BS office or producing job to pay the bills. He really is a contemporary of CK, and of the Junkies when you think about it.

It's hard to believe, because whatever you say about him he does seem like a genuinely nice enough dude. But if you listen to what Jormand said, and compare to what M&L have hinted at...

I think people's issue with Donnie G was that everyone who came to work on the show did so thinking it was going to be fun and games and Donnie G didn't suffer fools lightly. It seems he treated people okay if they did their fucking jobs. Not always the most pleasant work environment, but when you are dealing with lazy fucks like LFF, sometimes it's the only way to get shit done.

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robb is in the class of "can dish it out, but can't take it". he'll criticize the smallest mistake that someone makes, but just can't deal with it when someone mentions something to him -- and there's plenty of material there! the voice cracking, getting tongue-tied, the queeny words and references, etc.

HoneyDipCrisp Wrote:
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> I blame myself.
> I posted the retarded podcast ratings, and there
> have been TWO DAYS of Don vs. Mike chat. (See what
> happens, The Northman!?!)

Yeah I see what happens; this thread becomes funny as hell again(at least to me, haaha). Seems like the podcast ratings have sparked quite the discussion and the rehashing of lots of embarrassing shit.

no need to blame yourself HDC. You should actually be congratulating yourself IMO.

I can't tell you who shot JR...or Mr. Burns for that matter, but I CAN tell you who killed Don & Mike. His name is Michael Powell. When that politico-Nazi seized control of the FCC he changed the rules...in the middle of the fucking game. Radio personalities who made their living on "adult" content were now confined to a Disney/Hitler parenting model and stripped of the very crude tools we all found so damn funny. In the post Janet Jackson Super Bowl world, shock DJs were left to rot like last week's garbage. The Feds decided what was "acceptable" and what was not. But of course, few people cared enough to protest because we had the distraction of domestic terrorism and a few wars (keep the shiny object spinning for the inbred mouth breathers). Once properly neutered, it was only a matter of time before the "unsinkable ship" hit the iceberg. Cold, deep-water graves.

But perhaps someone smarter than I can tell me why the MOM show is self-censored? I don't think the FCC is controlling podcasts....or are they? If they are worried about the sensitive folks in Iowa, don't they get copies anyway? Could not the show be broadcast much like the "bonus" show each day? Instead of complaining about not being on the radio, I would think they would want to take full advantage of the few benefits of the podcast world. The fact that they do not, makes me wonder if they have forgotten the simple rules of popular entertainment.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I think people's issue with Donnie G was that
> everyone who came to work on the show did so
> thinking it was going to be fun and games and
> Donnie G didn't suffer fools lightly. It seems he
> treated people okay if they did their fucking
> jobs. Not always the most pleasant work
> environment, but when you are dealing with lazy
> fucks like LFF, sometimes it's the only way to get
> shit done.


His problem was that he was (maybe still is) a coked up asshole. He treated Mike relatively ok because he thought he needed him. Others were yelled at for anything, including shit Mike did.

>Ron said "how did that work out for you". Shari said "well, you know...". And >Ron responded with: "why does it always work out that way with those guys?".

>Probably says more about Donnie G.'s rep, but I'm sure O'Meara was equally out >of control and unmanageable.

Don actual has a pretty incredible reputation for being terrified of competition. He would attempt to block the move of any talented program to any studio he was currently working at. He was terrified of Leykis, Ron&Fez, O&A, Sports Junkies and BOaD. He tried to stop all of them from getting jobs where he was working and, had some degree of success at times. He was known as a very back stabbing and envious person. He certainly can organize and lead a show better than MoM can though. He is also willing to die fighting and backstabbing anyone around him for his little title of king of a shit heap market. MoM looks like he is just drinking himself to death.

>I can't tell you who shot JR...or Mr. Burns for that matter, but I CAN tell you who killed Don & Mike. His name is Michael Powell.

I think people also just grew up and stopped listening to that brand of WHACKY MORNING ZOO crap.



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Did any of you really think "Honk for Cash", or "Can you get to 10" were funny?

Sorry bonus hour subscribers, but we will be taping another bonus hour tomorrow. I just didn't feel that the bonus segment today was up to normal TMOS standards. My apologies and stay tuned tomorrow for an outstanding entertainment program.

Sherry Licker Wrote:
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> According to Shari's website
> http://www.sharielliker.com/main.html#
> she was "fourth chair" on the Don and Mike Show.
> Nothing there about producing, so she was either
> lying to Fez, or lying on her website.

I guess "fourth mike" sounds better than 'producer'. I don't think it's big deal, not what I'd consider an outright 'lie'. Somebody had to be lining up guests and doing whatever the D&M divas refused to do.

Oh, again, Shari was responding to a question from Ron Bennington, not Fez. The show was on air so maybe it's in an audio vault somewhere - we should get Rob(b) on the case!

Not to split hairs, but didn't they have "in-studio producer" and "executive producer" duties on that show? Robb was overall producer for awhile, then was in-studio at the end. Maybe Shari was "in stpudio producer".

I thought the end of Diana's career with D&M was after the Don's last drug bust, wasn't it?

Seriously now.... Wrote:
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> Did any of you really think "Honk for Cash", or
> "Can you get to 10" were funny?

Or putting your phone in the dryer. Real funny stuff there.

ChadIsFat Wrote:
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>
> Or putting your phone in the dryer. Real funny
> stuff there.

Hey, don't forget sitting at a stop light until it recycles and people start honking and yelling; or getting 40 people to show up at a 7-11 pay phone; or low budget Jeap-or-dee?

Those bits would have me flipping back to TOP or DC101 in the pre-satellite radio days.

Hair Splitter Wrote:
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> Not to split hairs, but didn't they have
> "in-studio producer" and "executive producer"
> duties on that show? Robb was overall producer
> for awhile, then was in-studio at the end. Maybe
> Shari was "in stpudio producer".
>

Radio pay scales drop off dramatically from the Don/star to the worker bee Shari/Rob(b) level so I'd say having the 'producer' title probably got the 'fourth mike' a few more bucks every week.

One thing is for sure: I'd Shari Licker is still mucho bang-able!!

Has anyone here ever been to Sacramento? I have.

Take the most depressing mall you've ever visited and multiply it by 1,000.
Then take the dumbest couple you know and multiply them by 100,000.

Don's living in Hell's sphincter. Literally... literally.

HoneyDipCrisp Wrote:
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>
> Don's living in Hell's sphincter. Literally...
> literally.

Isn't that what Mike Sorce/Donnie G. is all about?

Rather than be a corporal in Heaven, he'd rather be a general in Hell.

I don't know if I agree with WTL regarding Don's 'success' - it seems he took the easy way out to a small market with no competition.

If Don had gone west and made a big splash in San Francisco radio - I'd be impressed. But Sactown - meh, who cares?

Isn't that better than in Manassas doing a pretend one hour show?

Really you say Wrote:
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> Isn't that better than in Manassas doing a pretend
> one hour show?


I suppose if you put a gun to someone's head they might say it's marginally better.

I remember Don sticking up for Sacramento, even back when Robb and Mike were putting it down on a daily basis and doing their "Sacramento Dance".

Long before he retired, Don said he'd be happy to live there some day. Didn't he even say he'd like to retire there?

It seemed like an odd comment to make at the time but now it makes sense.

The town loves Don, Don loves the town.

We should all be so lucky.

God knows O'Meara never will be.

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> Really you say Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Isn't that better than in Manassas doing a
> pretend
> > one hour show?
>
>
> I suppose if you put a gun to someone's head they
> might say it's marginally better.

Yeah, pulling down big ratings in Sacramento is "marginally" better than the failcast. Or even somewhat better. Or a lot better. Or another universe better. Even leaving aside the wreckage that is LFF's life.

LFF would trade his life for Donnie G's in ONE heartbeat.

ChadIsFat Wrote:
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> Really you say Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Isn't that better than in Manassas doing a
> pretend
> > one hour show?
>
>
> I suppose if you put a gun to someone's head they
> might say it's marginally better.

Dude its more than marginally better. LFF's Failcast is only marginally better than living off the government. (I'm sure he's in a huge debt hole).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Don's whacky morning Zoo shtick at all, but Don obviously is, and if he's found a good paying gig, doing what he loves, in a city he loves, as Manny said, then more power to him.

I agree that their brand of humor is dumb as hell but it seems that at least Don is still doing it on his terms(if he indeed wanted to move to Sac-Town) and Mike is doing it on his couch (when he's not too hung over). And I would think Don is making enough to live fairly comfortably as opposed to LFF.

My instinct is to think Don was being ridiculous by trying to block peers from his station. But, when you think about it, the one comparable show (O&A) that got on ended up taking the D&M time slot. That's crazy.

Fan since 1997 Wrote:
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> My instinct is to think Don was being ridiculous
> by trying to block peers from his station. But,
> when you think about it, the one comparable show
> (O&A) that got on ended up taking the D&M time
> slot. That's crazy.


That's what happens when your listening audience realizes that there are much better options than your WHACKY MORNING ZOO routine. He also consistently rebelled against cross pollination of shows. He didn't even want listeners to know there were other shows that were entertaining on the station.

>Dude its more than marginally better. LFF's Failcast is only marginally better than living off the government. (I'm sure he's in a huge debt hole).

I guess you're right, Don is in a crap hole but at least he is on the radio and getting a paycheck. I don't know how profitable the podcasts are, but I doubt Mike is doing anywhere near as well.

There's really no comparison. Don's career is on an upswing now. He had to start all over from scratch but he's on three real radio stations and will probably pick up a fourth this year. He's also the PD at his current station and recently took his morning show up to a #1 rating. That's job security, a paycheck, benefits... all the things that Mike would kill for.

Mike also looks really fat compared to Don now.

The difference between Don and Mike is that Don knows you make your own luck. LFF, on the other hand, sits on his fat ass and wishes for "one in the win column."

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Don's Greatest Hit!

go to 6:40 if you want to hear where Don first calls in and the first 3 times he gets hung up on

Booger Sugar Wrote:
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> Don's Greatest Hit!
>
>
>
>
>


Can you imagine hearing anything remotely like this on terrestrial radio these days? My station that used to play D&M now plays the "Scott Van Pelt Show." The word TRAGEDY is not enough to describe the current state of radio.

Rifle Lawson Wrote:
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> I can't tell you who shot JR...or Mr. Burns for
> that matter, but I CAN tell you who killed Don &
> Mike. His name is Michael Powell. When that
> politico-Nazi seized control of the FCC he changed
> the rules...in the middle of the fucking game.
> Radio personalities who made their living on
> "adult" content were now confined to a
> Disney/Hitler parenting model and stripped of the
> very crude tools we all found so damn funny. In
> the post Janet Jackson Super Bowl world, shock DJs
> were left to rot like last week's garbage. The
> Feds decided what was "acceptable" and what was
> not. But of course, few people cared enough to
> protest because we had the distraction of domestic
> terrorism and a few wars (keep the shiny object
> spinning for the inbred mouth breathers). Once
> properly neutered, it was only a matter of time
> before the "unsinkable ship" hit the iceberg.
> Cold, deep-water graves.
>
> But perhaps someone smarter than I can tell me why
> the MOM show is self-censored? I don't think the
> FCC is controlling podcasts....or are they? If
> they are worried about the sensitive folks in
> Iowa, don't they get copies anyway? Could not the
> show be broadcast much like the "bonus" show each
> day? Instead of complaining about not being on the
> radio, I would think they would want to take full
> advantage of the few benefits of the podcast
> world. The fact that they do not, makes me wonder
> if they have forgotten the simple rules of popular
> entertainment.


You answered your own question. They censor the podcast to up-sell the bonus shows for $8, or whatever exorbitant price it is, so you can hear Buzz say "cock".

Rifle Lawson Wrote:
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> I can't tell you who shot JR...or Mr. Burns for
> that matter, but I CAN tell you who killed Don &
> Mike. His name is Michael Powell. When that
> politico-Nazi seized control of the FCC he changed
> the rules...in the middle of the fucking game.
> Radio personalities who made their living on
> "adult" content were now confined to a
> Disney/Hitler parenting model and stripped of the
> very crude tools we all found so damn funny. In
> the post Janet Jackson Super Bowl world, shock DJs
> were left to rot like last week's garbage. The
> Feds decided what was "acceptable" and what was
> not. But of course, few people cared enough to
> protest because we had the distraction of domestic
> terrorism and a few wars (keep the shiny object
> spinning for the inbred mouth breathers). Once
> properly neutered, it was only a matter of time
> before the "unsinkable ship" hit the iceberg.
> Cold, deep-water graves.
>
> But perhaps someone smarter than I can tell me why
> the MOM show is self-censored? I don't think the
> FCC is controlling podcasts....or are they? If
> they are worried about the sensitive folks in
> Iowa, don't they get copies anyway? Could not the
> show be broadcast much like the "bonus" show each
> day? Instead of complaining about not being on the
> radio, I would think they would want to take full
> advantage of the few benefits of the podcast
> world. The fact that they do not, makes me wonder
> if they have forgotten the simple rules of popular
> entertainment.

You answered your own question. They censor the podcast to up-sell the bonus shows for $8, or whatever exorbitant price it is, so you can hear Buzz say "cock".

Interesting conspiracy theory, but the real reason for the censoring is the KCJJ broadcast in Iowa. It's only heard by three farmers and a goat but it's still subject to FCC rules.

Manny Wrote:
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> Interesting conspiracy theory, but the real reason
> for the censoring is the KCJJ broadcast in Iowa.
> It's only heard by three farmers and a goat but
> it's still subject to FCC rules.


Hey ass. I'll have you know the corn shoots when we blast Blob(b) Radio(o)!

Is that since d&M ended. Mike continues to be lazy and flounder in his own shit.
Don at least got off his ass. Moved and restarted with CBS.
Has Mike ever attempted anything on his own that required effort?
Coke, asshole, bully.
What ever shit you pile on Don. Truth is he is a radio lifer, had a big career without Mike. Starting over again without him. Don is a radio guy, Mike just isn't.
I ask you why???

Another episode with racist Rob! Sweet!
What a fucking loser...

Mike O'Meara Wrote:
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> Sorry bonus hour subscribers, but we will be
> taping another bonus hour tomorrow. I just didn't
> feel that the bonus segment today was up to normal
> TMOS standards. My apologies and stay tuned
> tomorrow for an outstanding entertainment program.

Ruh Roh.

I can hear the yelling in Albuquerque.

I can almost hear the guys all thinking 'Get me the f*** away from this guy'

Manny Wrote:
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> Interesting conspiracy theory, but the real reason
> for the censoring is the KCJJ broadcast in Iowa.
> It's only heard by three farmers and a goat but
> it's still subject to FCC rules.

Yes, KCJJ is subject to the FCC, but the podcast could still be released uncensored on the web site or iTunes. Big O and Dukes use the same tactic for their Reloaded shows

Just tried listening to donnie g. podcast from 3/15. Hadn't tried in couple of months. As had happened many times before trying to listen to the podcast it cut off. I really don't think donnie g. cares about the podcast. Is he away on vacation this week.

I'm hard pressed to compliment the failcast but it appears that the long term issue of trying to download podcast for failcast has finally been improved . At least when trying to listen on demand it doesn't cut off. The downloading of the podcast is still ponderously long.

I miss Nazi Rob(b)

Jimmy the Intern Wrote:
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> I miss Nazi Rob(b)


I wish Rob would take his stupid songs about me and just literally jump off a cliff

Oscar Wrote:
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> Jimmy the Intern Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I miss Nazi Rob(b)
>
>
> I wish Rob would take his stupid songs about me
> and just literally jump off a cliff

That being said, if you will, you make a good point.

TheNorthman Wrote:
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>LFF's Failcast is only marginally better than living off
> the government. (I'm sure he's in a huge debt
> hole).

He's way underwater with the mortgage.
But Mr. Personal Responsibility says it's because the assessors and inspectors are "assholes"...
and it's "this economy", of course.
But he's still not living off the government! There's always the little Mrs.

"Why buy the cow when you can milk Carla for all she's worth?"

That's still not it, is it.
TheNorthman. Am I getting any closer?



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Why take personal responsibility when it's not his fault?

There is no way this asshat is looking for work. Can you imagine being his agent and trying to get someone to hire him?

"Yeh, he used to be part of a radio duo....then got his own show which got canceled. He got another radio gig, but got canceled. He does a podcast now.....a podcast....you know....podcast. Anyway, it has a lot of downloads."

Today from the living room: Details on "meltdown" thursday. A mens store embarrassment. The "BOOM" crisis and I am duped again.

Age Spot Wrote:
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>
>
> There is no way this asshat is looking for work.
> Can you imagine being his agent and trying to get
> someone to hire him?
>
>


What's 10 percent of "Janitor's wages." No wonder the guy doesn't have a new gig. I doubt any agent would represent him at this point and he sure the fuck isn't going to make the effort to find a job.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I doubt any agent
> would represent him at this point and he sure the
> fuck isn't going to make the effort to find a job.

Dealing with an agent is a two way street. You are going to get advice and direction and you've got to respond to that input positively and start pounding the pavement.

El Gordito doesn't seem like the type that would be willing to take constructive criticism and follow a job-finding game plan from an experienced agent.

And you are correct, what agent is going to waste his/her time on a 50 year old two time loser in a major radio market with attitude and drinking problems?

Why would anyone look for a job if you can sell out the State Theatre and make $1,500?

Hand to God, working is overrated!!

Why work when you can come to West Virginia and in a few hours double your fortune....or lose it all and have to sleep in your car....either way, it sure beats working for a living!

Interesting subtext during the big fight between Don and Mike that was discussed a few pages back. Mike started to back down after Don made a veiled reference to a huge favor that he did for Mike in the recent past.

It was clear that Don wanted to leave the show earlier, but hung in an extra year or so because Mike was in a panic, worried about making his alimony payments, the failed restaurant, fancy cars and gambling debts.

Mike's gratitude was minimal. He still complains about being bullied by Don, "I learned from the BEST!" and no doubt feels like he was kicked to the curb.

Don's probably feeling great, now that he's lost 350 lbs of dead weight.

Charles Town Wrote:
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> Why work when you can come to West Virginia and in
> a few hours double your fortune....or lose it all
> and have to sleep in your car....either way, it
> sure beats working for a living!


I'm guilty of assuming too much at times, but there's one thing we can all be sure of. When Mike gambles, he always loses. We'd have heard about it over and over if he EVER walked out of a Casino with any winnings.

It's as if he's only watched the movie "Casino" while he was drunk and keeps sleeping through the scene where they trick the very successful high-roller into losing big. The only way to come out ahead is to WALK OUT while you're up and Mike will never have the will power to do that.

As the booze shrinks the logical part of his brain, the gullible section just keeps getting bigger.

Manny Wrote:
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> Mike's gratitude was minimal. He still complains
> about being bullied by Don, "I learned from the
> BEST!" and no doubt feels like he was kicked to
> the curb.

I'm sure Mike's "enemies list" has Don in the #1 spot, and I believe animosity is centered on the fact Don pulled the plug on Mike's gravy train.

All Mike had to do was show up, do his Charlie or Marion Berry bits and cash a check. An over-the-top lifestyle came with minimal effort, and when he had to manage on his own, even when Don set him up with the MOMS WJFK gig, he failed miserably.

Of course that's Don's fault in Mike's mind.

Kicked to the curb? I dunno, more like 'Mike, it's time to make it on your own' and terror ensued.

In retrospect the MOMS on WJFK was a pretty pathetic effort on Mike's part. He had months to get ready after at Don left and the best he could do was assemble the same lame-assed krewe Don carried for years and even more astoundingly, he gave the reigns of the show to Spewak of all people!

You have to wonder why Michael Hughes and Chris Kinard didn't step in and give Mike some direction - or maybe they just let the train wreck play out, knowing CBS was going to flip formats to sports talk all along.

There is no "logical part" to Mike's brain.

Mike O'Meara Wrote:
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> Today from the living room: Details on "meltdown"
> thursday. A mens store embarrassment. The "BOOM"
> crisis and I am duped again.

Hey Mike! Big fan.
I was thinking about subscribing to the Bonus Show, but noticed you've been bitten hard by the gambling bug again.
Maybe I'm over thinking this, but would it save you some time and gas money if I just flush the subscription money down the toilet?

Duped again!?! I don't believe it. When will the good guy ever catch a lucky break?


Attachments:

"Duped again!?! I don't believe it. When will the good guy ever catch a lucky break?"

Hand to God, I need, I mean I literally need one in the win column.

HoneyDipCrisp Wrote:
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> TheNorthman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >LFF's Failcast is only marginally better than
> living off
> > the government. (I'm sure he's in a huge debt
> > hole).
>
> He's way underwater with the mortgage.
> But Mr. Personal Responsibility says it's because
> the assessors and inspectors are "assholes"...
> and it's "this economy", of course.

Damn, I'm surprised somebody with such s huge ego would actually admit that. He's actually said that on the Failcast?
>
> "Why buy the cow when you can milk Carla for all
> she's worth?"
>
> That's still not it, is it.
> TheNorthman. Am I getting any closer?

You lost me pal....closer to what?

Marc Ronick aggressively deletes comments on the official TMOS board. That's why there's a minimal amount of activity over there, but a steady stream of posts over here.

I wrote this one yesterday but Marc thought it was too mean:

"Mike was duped again? Must be Thursday."

Larry Fine Wrote:
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> Marc Ronick aggressively deletes comments on the
> official TMOS board. That's why there's a minimal
> amount of activity over there, but a steady stream
> of posts over here.
>
> I wrote this one yesterday but Marc thought it was
> too mean:
>
> "Mike was duped again? Must be Thursday."


The posts are deleted pretty aggressively, yet "LFF" still gets his posts up every so often. Do you think they are not aware of what that means (because they do not read this website), or don't care?

The going thought is they read this thread everyday....maybe they don't?

Check this one out, the third comment down... evidently, start with a compliment and then bash away?

http://mikeomearashow.com/2012/03/backmonday/#comments

TheNorthman Wrote:
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> > "Why buy the cow when you can milk Carla for
> all
> > she's worth?"
> >
> > That's still not it, is it.
> > TheNorthman. Am I getting any closer?
>
> You lost me pal....closer to what?

Oh, no worries. I'm just having trouble remembering that old saying, "Why buy the cow when...?"

Here's another you might be able help me with. Is this right?:

"You can lead a horse's ass to the the watering hole, but you can't make him cut the grass."

That doesn't sound right either.

"LFF" is an artist when it comes to getting comments approved. And no, I don't think they have any idea what the initials stand for.

Mike's still a little afraid of the internet. He rarely strays far from his beloved Facebook.

Honestly folks... it is I that post on the MOM site everyday as LFF. I don't get every comment approved though. I have been surpised that I've managed the success I have.

Actually there appears to be more than one LFF because some post I didn't make "buying the bonus show being the most obvious one"

Bodega Bob Wrote:
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>
> In retrospect the MOMS on WJFK was a pretty
> pathetic effort on Mike's part. He had months to
> get ready after at Don left and the best he could
> do was assemble the same lame-assed krewe Don
> carried for years and even more astoundingly, he
> gave the reigns of the show to Spewak of all
> people!

Mike's BIGGEST problem was bring in Rob to play a large role (or, in my opinion, any role at all) and Beth Ann as producer. She was historically a weak producer and Rob is radio cancer. Now Mike had no structure, professionally weak people being forced to do the heavy lifting and an on air sidekick that would bring anything remotely entertaining to a grinding halt.

Who knows what handshake Don and Mike had when Don left and what deals were made for Mike to have his own show. Everything from anyone here is random guess work.

"Mike's BIGGEST problem was bring in Rob to play a large role (or, in my opinion, any role at all) and Beth Ann as producer."

That's a bingo!!!

"I have a degree in broadcast journalism!"

Stop laughing.

I really do.

That's why I used Tom Gavin as a source when I told all of you that Don's brother had died. It wasn't my fault that the information was wrong! Don shouldn't have gotten mad at ME!

I think they probably taught us to verify our information but I was sick/drunk/hungover that day.

It's NOT MY FAULT!

Glad your brother is okay, Don.

Major Hypocrisy alert:

On today's show, Mike lectures the audience about drug addiction. Including that deadly "gateway drug", Marijuana.

He tries to shame people who've acted as "enablers".

And he can do that, 'cause you know, he doesn't do drugs.

Booze isn't a drug.

Neither is Nicotine.

Idiot.

Mow Wrote:
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> Major Hypocrisy alert:
>
> On today's show, Mike lectures the audience about
> drug addiction. Including that deadly "gateway
> drug", Marijuana.
>
> He tries to shame people who've acted as
> "enablers".
>
> And he can do that, 'cause you know, he doesn't do
> drugs.
>
> Booze isn't a drug.
>
> Neither is Nicotine.
>
> Idiot.


and how does noted pothead Buzz Burbank and show drug experimentor Marc Ronnick react to this?

Mow Wrote:
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> Major Hypocrisy alert:
>
> On today's show, Mike lectures the audience about
> drug addiction. Including that deadly "gateway
> drug", Marijuana.
>
> He tries to shame people who've acted as
> "enablers".
>
> And he can do that, 'cause you know, he doesn't do
> drugs.
>
> Booze isn't a drug.
>
> Neither is Nicotine.
>
> Idiot.

Can't imagine being one of the other people in the room when THIS discussion was going on. What's next -- LFF lecturing people on being thin?

I am sure Mike regails everyone with the story of how he smoked pot back in the day, and in fact how he needed it to fly somewhere because.....he didn't want to get shitface drunk.

Larry Fine Wrote:
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> "LFF" is an artist when it comes to getting
> comments approved. And no, I don't think they have
> any idea what the initials stand for.
>
> Mike's still a little afraid of the internet. He
> rarely strays far from his beloved Facebook.


He has alluded to this site on the Failcast before (not by name, but how many sites out there have a thread like this?) I also have it on good authority that Rob(b) and Ronick at least used to try to act like enforcers on here. I still believe they check in time-to-time, but I think they realized long ago they aren't going to stop people from commenting here.

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Warhawk wrote:
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>Kane fucking sucks.

And Tom Leykis is an idiot. His show lasted about ten minutes here in Baltimore, then was cancelled. The idea of him "calling Don out" is hilarious.

WTL say, "He has alluded to this site on the Failcast before (not by name, but how many sites out there have a thread like this?)"


when lff usually refers to internet sites that bash him he seems to allude to dcrtv cause he says," and we even advertise on that site". the thing is you know I haven't read anything about the failcast in the mailbag in months and months. there ain't no bashing going on there. there's nothing about the failcast


Yeah I thought donnie g. did stick around awhile longer to allow lff to replenish his treasure chest and prep for the transition to lff solo.

Lady Baltimore Wrote:
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> Warhawk wrote:
> ----------------------------
> >Kane fucking sucks.
>
> And Tom Leykis is an idiot. His show lasted about
> ten minutes here in Baltimore, then was cancelled.
> The idea of him "calling Don out" is hilarious.


Don failed as bad as you could fail in NYC. He pulled a .8 so Don giving an opinion on anything is hilarious, right?

So, Rob(b), does Chad Dukes know you post as ChadIsFat?

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Carla Wrote:
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> There is no "logical part" to Mike's brain.


I imagine Mike's brain is like a 5 year old at a kiddie's birthday party...
jacked up on Pepsi and candy, toys and games, and cake and ice cream.

And the brain just perpetually screams, "MOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRE!"



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