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The New General Zod
Posted by:
MrMephisto
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Date: April 11, 2011 09:05AM
So this guy is playing General Zod in the next Superman movie:
Really, can anyone top this guy:
I say nay.
And why do they keep using the same villains for Superman? Don't they realize there are more than two of them?
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Really, can anyone top this guy:
I say nay.
And why do they keep using the same villains for Superman? Don't they realize there are more than two of them?
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Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: April 11, 2011 09:21AM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> And why do they keep using the same villains for
> Superman? Don't they realize there are more than
> two of them?
No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where the fuck is Bizarro?
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> And why do they keep using the same villains for
> Superman? Don't they realize there are more than
> two of them?
No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where the fuck is Bizarro?
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Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: April 11, 2011 09:26AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
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> >
> > And why do they keep using the same villains
> for
> > Superman? Don't they realize there are more
> than
> > two of them?
>
>
> No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where
> the fuck is Bizarro?
I get using Lex Luthor for the first installment of the gritty reboot since he's the most identifiable Superman villain, but they really need to branch out. Braniac, Mister Mxyzptlk, Darkseid, even Doomsday.
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
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>
> >
> > And why do they keep using the same villains
> for
> > Superman? Don't they realize there are more
> than
> > two of them?
>
>
> No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where
> the fuck is Bizarro?
I get using Lex Luthor for the first installment of the gritty reboot since he's the most identifiable Superman villain, but they really need to branch out. Braniac, Mister Mxyzptlk, Darkseid, even Doomsday.
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Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Warhawk
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Date: April 11, 2011 09:40AM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > MrMephisto Wrote:
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> >
> > >
> > > And why do they keep using the same villains
> > for
> > > Superman? Don't they realize there are more
> > than
> > > two of them?
> >
> >
> > No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where
> > the fuck is Bizarro?
>
> I get using Lex Luthor for the first installment
> of the gritty reboot since he's the most
> identifiable Superman villain, but they really
> need to branch out. Braniac, Mister Mxyzptlk,
> Darkseid, even Doomsday.
Yeah, at lest the Batman movies introduced Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze and The Riddler - even those movies sucked dick.
Supposedly, Hollywood wants to reboot Spiderman after this next movie. Why?
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > MrMephisto Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > And why do they keep using the same villains
> > for
> > > Superman? Don't they realize there are more
> > than
> > > two of them?
> >
> >
> > No shit! Fuck General Zod and Lex Luthor. Where
> > the fuck is Bizarro?
>
> I get using Lex Luthor for the first installment
> of the gritty reboot since he's the most
> identifiable Superman villain, but they really
> need to branch out. Braniac, Mister Mxyzptlk,
> Darkseid, even Doomsday.
Yeah, at lest the Batman movies introduced Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze and The Riddler - even those movies sucked dick.
Supposedly, Hollywood wants to reboot Spiderman after this next movie. Why?
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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Dunno
()
Date: April 11, 2011 09:40AM
Michael Shannon is really good, imo.
He was excellent in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, and one of the few good things in a shitty horror movie called Dead Birds.
On the other hand, I have not been watching the new series Boardwalk Empire, in which he plays an FBI agent, but I've seen a few clips on Youtube, in which his performance looked, sad to say, rather hammy.
The old Zod exuded an aloof, intellectual, icy menace, appropriate for a cosmic (if you will) villian.
Shannon, at his best, specializes in a more down-to-earth, thuggish menace - the menace of a barroom tough - that does not seem quite right for Zod.
As such, I think he will have a hard time matching up with, much less improving on the old Zod; and based on Boardwalk Empire, there's a real risk he will tip over into ham if he tries too hard.
Still, I think Shannon is a smart, talented actor, so he might just pull it off.
He was excellent in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, and one of the few good things in a shitty horror movie called Dead Birds.
On the other hand, I have not been watching the new series Boardwalk Empire, in which he plays an FBI agent, but I've seen a few clips on Youtube, in which his performance looked, sad to say, rather hammy.
The old Zod exuded an aloof, intellectual, icy menace, appropriate for a cosmic (if you will) villian.
Shannon, at his best, specializes in a more down-to-earth, thuggish menace - the menace of a barroom tough - that does not seem quite right for Zod.
As such, I think he will have a hard time matching up with, much less improving on the old Zod; and based on Boardwalk Empire, there's a real risk he will tip over into ham if he tries too hard.
Still, I think Shannon is a smart, talented actor, so he might just pull it off.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: April 11, 2011 11:27AM
Dunno Wrote:
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> The old Zod exuded an aloof, intellectual, icy
> menace, appropriate for a cosmic (if you will)
> villian.
That is an exceptional point. Zod is an alien dictator who had no prior interaction with humans and found them to be vastly inferior. The personality portrayed by Stamp's Zod was a perfect contrast to Superman's "humanity." That dichotomy still needs to be maintained for the character to be successful, in my opinion.
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> The old Zod exuded an aloof, intellectual, icy
> menace, appropriate for a cosmic (if you will)
> villian.
That is an exceptional point. Zod is an alien dictator who had no prior interaction with humans and found them to be vastly inferior. The personality portrayed by Stamp's Zod was a perfect contrast to Superman's "humanity." That dichotomy still needs to be maintained for the character to be successful, in my opinion.
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Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Dunno
()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:01PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Zod is an alien dictator who had no prior interaction with humans
> and found them to be vastly inferior.
Yeah, that's it. I was trying to describe his affect without remembering the details of the plot or character; it was just his attitude of complete disdain that was engraved in my memory.
> That dichotomy still needs to be maintained for the character to be successful,
> in my opinion.
I agree. It was the key to whatever was memorable about the old film.
I don't know if Shannon can pull that off.
We'll find out, I suppose.
(By contrast, I think Alan Rickman of Severus Snape/Harry Potter fame could convey that level of cosmic disdain without breaking a sweat.)
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> Zod is an alien dictator who had no prior interaction with humans
> and found them to be vastly inferior.
Yeah, that's it. I was trying to describe his affect without remembering the details of the plot or character; it was just his attitude of complete disdain that was engraved in my memory.
> That dichotomy still needs to be maintained for the character to be successful,
> in my opinion.
I agree. It was the key to whatever was memorable about the old film.
I don't know if Shannon can pull that off.
We'll find out, I suppose.
(By contrast, I think Alan Rickman of Severus Snape/Harry Potter fame could convey that level of cosmic disdain without breaking a sweat.)
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:03PM
Dunno Wrote:
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> (By contrast, I think Alan Rickman of Severus
> Snape/Harry Potter fame could convey that level of
> cosmic disdain without breaking a sweat.)
Absolutely. I don't even know who this Shannon guy is.
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> (By contrast, I think Alan Rickman of Severus
> Snape/Harry Potter fame could convey that level of
> cosmic disdain without breaking a sweat.)
Absolutely. I don't even know who this Shannon guy is.
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Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Johnny Walker
()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:09PM
Warhawk Wrote:
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> Supposedly, Hollywood wants to reboot Spiderman
> after this next movie. Why?
I think the one they are filming now IS the reboot. Why? Money. They probably figure they won't have to pay the actors and writers and director as much and people will go see it anyways so it'll make a ton of money regardless. Particularly considering the worldwide market where Hollywood can shit out any big spectacle of a movie and it will make money regardless of how "good" it actually is.
I would like to see Brainiac in a Superman movie though.
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> Supposedly, Hollywood wants to reboot Spiderman
> after this next movie. Why?
I think the one they are filming now IS the reboot. Why? Money. They probably figure they won't have to pay the actors and writers and director as much and people will go see it anyways so it'll make a ton of money regardless. Particularly considering the worldwide market where Hollywood can shit out any big spectacle of a movie and it will make money regardless of how "good" it actually is.
I would like to see Brainiac in a Superman movie though.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Dunno
()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:21PM
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Absolutely. I don't even know who this Shannon
> guy is.
"Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" is worth checking out. Not a classic, but a good, entertaining movie.
Shannon has a rather small role as a petty thug in that, but he really makes an impression. I'm pretty sure that was the "break-out" role that put him on the map and led to the HBO gig (Boardwalk Empire), and now the Superman thing.
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> Absolutely. I don't even know who this Shannon
> guy is.
"Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" is worth checking out. Not a classic, but a good, entertaining movie.
Shannon has a rather small role as a petty thug in that, but he really makes an impression. I'm pretty sure that was the "break-out" role that put him on the map and led to the HBO gig (Boardwalk Empire), and now the Superman thing.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: April 11, 2011 04:01PM
Whatever they do, I hope they never bring back that nuclear man that was created after Superman hurled all the nuclear ICBMs into the sun. That was horrible.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: April 11, 2011 07:07PM
Why bring back Zod? Because everyone wants to recreate that magical moment when as a kid you first heard Terrence Stamp say, "Kneel before Zod!"
Which can't be done. Stamp is the Zod we all love, and he owns the role. The guy who played Zod on Smallville (yes, I watch it, can you say "Erica Durance"?) was a pretty good bad guy, and yes it was cool when he uttered the famous line, but he's no Terrence Stamp Zod.
There hasn't been a decent movie since Superman 2, and every attempt at restarting the franchise has either disappointed or not even got off the ground. Best of luck to 'em. Batman has had an easier time of it; several actors have pulled off the Joker fairly well.
Which can't be done. Stamp is the Zod we all love, and he owns the role. The guy who played Zod on Smallville (yes, I watch it, can you say "Erica Durance"?) was a pretty good bad guy, and yes it was cool when he uttered the famous line, but he's no Terrence Stamp Zod.
There hasn't been a decent movie since Superman 2, and every attempt at restarting the franchise has either disappointed or not even got off the ground. Best of luck to 'em. Batman has had an easier time of it; several actors have pulled off the Joker fairly well.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
Dunno
()
Date: April 11, 2011 08:32PM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> Why bring back Zod?
As Mr. Walker noted earlier in this thread: money.
Money money money.
A new Superman franchise will, in all likelihood, make everyone wads of cash.
That is the one and only reason for this project.
They *will* try hard to make it entertaining, but only so that it can become the stepping-stone to multiple sequels (i.e., mo' money).
On that front, the director is Zack Snyder, who did the "Dawn of the Dead" remake, which I thought was rather good -- fast-paced and fun, but appropriately scary in parts, and pretty damn hard-core in terms of gore.
So, while they don't have Terence Stamp, and that is a major loss, they do have a young, talented, energetic director (as opposed to the competent, but past his prime Richard "Hard Day's Night" Lester who helmed the original).
Too, the thought crosses my mind that Snyder, being Jewish, might - just might - bring a little more emotional/psychological investment to the table than a generic gentile whiz kid would. Think Superman's creators, Kavalier & Clay, etc.
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> Why bring back Zod?
As Mr. Walker noted earlier in this thread: money.
Money money money.
A new Superman franchise will, in all likelihood, make everyone wads of cash.
That is the one and only reason for this project.
They *will* try hard to make it entertaining, but only so that it can become the stepping-stone to multiple sequels (i.e., mo' money).
On that front, the director is Zack Snyder, who did the "Dawn of the Dead" remake, which I thought was rather good -- fast-paced and fun, but appropriately scary in parts, and pretty damn hard-core in terms of gore.
So, while they don't have Terence Stamp, and that is a major loss, they do have a young, talented, energetic director (as opposed to the competent, but past his prime Richard "Hard Day's Night" Lester who helmed the original).
Too, the thought crosses my mind that Snyder, being Jewish, might - just might - bring a little more emotional/psychological investment to the table than a generic gentile whiz kid would. Think Superman's creators, Kavalier & Clay, etc.
Re: The New General Zod
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: April 11, 2011 08:38PM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> Why bring back Zod? Because everyone wants to
> recreate that magical moment when as a kid you
> first heard Terrence Stamp say, "Kneel before
> Zod!"
My very close second favorite line of that movie is when he asks Lex Luthor, "Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"
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> Why bring back Zod? Because everyone wants to
> recreate that magical moment when as a kid you
> first heard Terrence Stamp say, "Kneel before
> Zod!"
My very close second favorite line of that movie is when he asks Lex Luthor, "Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.