Hi, do any of you believe in evolution?

Could you say why or why not you do?

Yes. I think people with hairy backs are actually 5th generation monkeys. -§

Who gives a flying monkey fuck, god schmod, evolution schmevolution. Fuck all that shit and relax with a nice doob, you controversy whore.

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Who gives a flying monkey fuck, god schmod,
> evolution schmevolution. Fuck all that shit and
> relax with a nice doob, you controversy whore.



"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

yes i believe in evolution. i also believe that the hard work, education, and research done by generations of the worlds top scientists has infinitely greater credibility than do ancient scripts or fraudulent religious leaders. these intollerant phonies are the scum of the world. falwell = bin laden as far as i'm concerned.

Yeah, scientists gave us nukes and now Iran and North Korea have them... thanks.

Hi, do any of you believe in evolution? Could you say why or why not you do?

It's a choice between science and judeao-christian mythology. Or more simply: physics vs. witchcraft.

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> Yeah, scientists gave us nukes and now Iran and
> North Korea have them... thanks.



oh... and iran doesnt have them... yet.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

I don't see why people can't have it both ways.

I believe life was in fact started by some kind of overwhelming force - a force we cannot understand as being intelligent or unintelligent. We can't even determine if this force happened by accident or because of its own will, foresite, and intelligence. Is this force God? One applies that word, and suddenly they are assumed to be gleaning all information from the bible or other scripture.

I also believe that once life started, a process also began to allow that life to survive in the chaotic and highly dynamic environs of earth. That process is evolution. But invoking the word evolution these days must mean that you are without religion, a godless wanderer.

So can I have it all... created by a higher force, evolving due to outside forces. I think I can, if I choose to avoid the words "god" and "evolution". We as people have always tried to make all issues black or white. But creating something and then it becoming better by some means is not black and white, especially given the level of complexity of life.

My problem with the religious crowd is the fervent belief that humans must have been created in this form and did not evolve from anything. Heads. In. Asses.

RESton Peace,
   stop being logical, dammit! this is a "God versus Science" yelling match!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Evolution is a lie from Satan. Its the ultimate lie.

>"Robert" (aka Meade Skeleton) Wrote:
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> Evolution is a lie from Satan. Its the ultimate
> lie.

Good one, production-wise.

Robert Wrote:
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> Evolution is a lie from Satan. Its the ultimate
> lie.

No, your refusal to admit that you are Meade Skelton is the ultimate lie. That is, it would be the ultimate lie if it weren't so freakin' obvious.

You want to talk religion? How many of the 7 deadly sins do you commit on a daily basis? Gluttony, Pride, Sloth... too bad there isn't one for stupidity.

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> too bad there isn't one for stupidity.

it's so true.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Damn this cracked me up... Mr Garrison explains evolution. http://www.jibjab.com/view/88245#

Yes, Darwin was right.

Meeper, that is the best one yet..

I laughed so hard, my co-workers asked me if I was ok..

I think Crystal Bernard said it best:

Im not kin to the monkey, no, no, no
The monkey's no kin to me , yeah, yeah, yeah
I don't know much about his ancestors
but mine didn't swing from a tree

> I think Crystal Bernard said it best:

I never even heard of Crystal Bernard.

Cystal Bernard is an Actress. She appeared on the hit tv series Wings.

Anyone that believes in science will burn in hell. The bible is a flawless and 100% accurate telling of human history.

I was just in the giant redwood forest....and I saw some of those trees that are close to 3,000 years old.. and the bible says something like ~5,000 years ago we came to be as a planet and human race in 7 days no less..lol..

WTF , can not compute..can not compute.

Now darn it.. that dont make a lick of sense..

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I just luv that bird...he just keeps poping up everywhere..

lol..

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I don't see why people can't have it both ways.
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>
> I also believe that once life started, a process
> also began to allow that life to survive in the
> chaotic and highly dynamic environs of earth.
> That process is evolution.
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>

If you believe in evolution - why do we still have monkeys?

In any event, I found your entire post enlightening....almost poetic. Finally, an intelligent and thoughtful post in this forum - thank you!

To believe in evolution, you must go against the scientific prinicple of cause and effect. I don't believe in evolution. Its a totally antiquated theory.
Darwin was a fraud.

Robert Wrote:
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> To believe in evolution, you must go against the
> scientific prinicple of cause and effect. I don't
> believe in evolution. Its a totally antiquated
> theory.
> Darwin was a fraud.

Robert - please explain your post. Evolution IS the scientific principle of cause and effect....

Here is the entire article:

http://casonline.org/focalpoint/0700.html

The conclusion by the author:

If mainstream science would be truthful with all the evidence that is around everyone and reinterpret the evidence by using the principle of cause and effect, the only logical explanation for the world as we see it, is the world is made the way it is, by design. Which logically would necessitate a Designer or Creator and with all things being equal this would be the simplest explanation, which is correct!


Therefore - if there is indeed a Designer or Creator for the world as we know it, then maybe - just maybe this omnipotent being created Man too. Again I ask, if evolution exists - why are there still monkeys?



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if evolution exists - why are there still monkeys?

Ummm, because humans didn't evolve from the species of monkeys that still exist today. That's a completely ill-conceived question, even hardcore Creationist-types wouldn't consider that a valid argument.

If Americans descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?

Evolution uses the premise of the Big Bang Theory. That goes against cause and effect .

They just want to rule out God period.

Evolution is an old theory.

There should be alternatives to this antiquated notion.

Evolution uses the premise of the Big Bang Theory. That goes against cause and effect .

I love the way you state that it's based on a premise that did not exist when the theory itself was first proposed, and then have the foolish notion to enter "cause and effect" into whatever it is you're trying to prove.

I don't think there's even a term for that sort of fallacious logic, other than "completely misunderstood" or "entirely wrong".

Evolution is so overly simplistic , its just not satisfactory enough for me. Sorry.

I think that we need to move on from antiquated science and find other theories .

I'm willing to defend against reasonable questions that show an educated understanding of my belief. Tia, I don't see your answer as intentionally lacking an educated argument, but the question you asked would indicate that fact. You are atempting to make evolution vs creation a black-and-white thing.

The other loser who is just posting idiocy isn't ever taken seriously , anyway. "Based on the theory of the big bang"... no wonder this loser can't keep a job.

RESton Peace,
   well said.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I'm willing to defend against reasonable questions
> that show an educated understanding of my belief.
> Tia, I don't see your answer as intentionally
> lacking an educated argument, but the question you
> asked would indicate that fact. You are atempting
> to make evolution vs creation a black-and-white
> thing.
>
> The other loser who is just posting idiocy isn't
> ever taken seriously , anyway. "Based on the
> theory of the big bang"... no wonder this loser
> can't keep a job.

Sorry everyone. The question regarding monkeys was not supposed to be taken seriously. I actually got that question from the Comedy channel...

Discussing whether or not you believe in evolution can create a very passionate thread, and I was just trying to lighten things up.

Robert Wrote:
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> Evolution uses the premise of the Big Bang Theory.
> That goes against cause and effect .
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> They just want to rule out God period.
>
> Evolution is an old theory.
>
> There should be alternatives to this antiquated
> notion.


There are alternatives. Those that don't want their children subjected to these satanic teachings may home-school them. Then when they grow up and know the scripture word for word, they can mow lawns for a living and home-school their children. They will effectively subject their family line to generations of stupidity, superstition, and poverty.

Those that don't want their children subjected to these satanic teachings may home-school them.

Check out the documentary "Jesus Camp" if you want an amusing, yet somewhat unsettling, glimpse at the way these conservative homeschooler people live. There's a scene where the 'teacher' instructs little grade-school kids about how evolution is the liberal media's way of promoting the devil. Before that, they all stand and pledge allegiance to the bible, and give praise to president Bush. It's a worthwhile flick. It's both funny and scary to see how fucking crazed alot of people are in this country. God bless us all, babe.

Jesus Camp is not a documentary, it is a genuine horror movie. I have never been so horrified in all my life than to see a real-life extremist religious group indoctrinating children to be "God's warriors" in this country. It is a fucked up movie that everyone needs to see.

That scene right at the beginning of the movie where the little girl is walking up to random people at the bowling alley... trying to convert them.. is one of the most awkward and embarrassing things I've ever seen on film. I immediately had to turnt he movie off when it showed that.

Plot summary for
Jesus Camp (2006)
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Meade Skelton 3 years ago · LINKED COMMENT in reply to anubis2814

Actually, I have studied evolution more than you would care to know. Its a work of Science Fiction. Half the models they use dont even exist. For example, there is no such thing as "Java Man" or "Peking Man". That is made up. There is no missing link found. Moreover, why cant a dog turn into a cat? Why won't a snake turn into a frog? Evolution unsatisfactory. Mainstream Science is mostly BS.


https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?lc=ObiZjRw66PV9HFLy29b3N6wbtBH-JMw97kR47zSCI-c&v=xIfr3OQdyJc

The whole problem with the Skelton/Haufe klan is that they are the missing links.....
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>Actually, I have studied evolution more than you would care to know.

I agree with this.

>Moreover, why cant a dog turn into a cat?
>Why won't a snake turn into a frog?

They are one different branches. They share a common ancestor. And of course, snakes and dogs share a common ancestor.

>Evolution unsatisfactory. Mainstream Science is mostly BS.

Amusing. The whole fact that you can post that on youtube is a tribute to science and models.