And cue an angry right-wing response in 3..2...1.....

Hurricanes are still at an all time low over the last decade.

Global cooling.

http://www.ieyenews.com/wordpress/us-record-setting-hurricanes-at-an-all-time-low/

Actually, it's called a tropical storm not moving for several days. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.

What happens if Texas gets two epic hurricanes, two weeks apart? Or even a third?

This is global warming.

The cult of global warming Wrote:
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> Actually, it's called a tropical storm not moving
> for several days. But hey, don't let the facts get
> in the way of your narrative.


^ This. The reason for the flooding is a bad set of weather circumstances not 'climate change.' The same storm of the same intensity typically would be through the area and gone in a day spreading the rain across a wider area and losing energy as it moves inland. In this case, two high pressure systems inland (aka weather) penned it in and caused it to stall and sit over the same area for days dumping all of that rain in the same place.

wake-up call Wrote:
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and, right on schedule... Wrote:
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> wake-up call Wrote:
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> > And cue an angry right-wing response in
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>
>
> +++++++^


That's not angry, that's called "facts."

I understand how you might make that mistake though since facts are alien to angry libtards.

lol

But we'll see if the US gets hit by any more major hurricanes this season.

You may recall, in 2012, during a debate, Romney jeered at Obama's concern over global warming. Then, on the cusp of a nailbiter of a campaign - a superstorm! Then, Obama looking presidential coming to the rescue of a disaster-stricken Chris Christie. Followed by a defeat for Romney. You are tempting fate, God, and the atmosphere by blowing this off.

ONE bad hurricane MIGHT be some sort of fluke as you hypothesized; we'll see if we remain unmolested by the weather for the remainder of the season.

Well, looks like OP got thoroughly bitch slapped. They never learn.

Libtardz!

Lolz!

But, trumpardz never learn...

You MIGHT be right... Wrote:
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> But we'll see if the US gets hit by any more major
> hurricanes this season.
>
> You may recall, in 2012, during a debate, Romney
> jeered at Obama's concern over global warming.
> Then, on the cusp of a nailbiter of a campaign - a
> superstorm! Then, Obama looking presidential
> coming to the rescue of a disaster-stricken Chris
> Christie. Followed by a defeat for Romney. You are
> tempting fate, God, and the atmosphere by blowing
> this off.
>
> ONE bad hurricane MIGHT be some sort of fluke as
> you hypothesized; we'll see if we remain
> unmolested by the weather for the remainder of the
> season.


1. Harvey's Stall Has Begun

Harvey made landfall Friday night, but its forward progress has now come to a crashing halt.

The National Hurricane Center expects Harvey to meander near the Texas coast through much of this week while weakening with time.

Harvey's long-awaited stall is due to weak steering currents in the upper atmosphere. For the next several days, Harvey will be caught in between a large area of high pressure in the western states and another area of high pressure extending from the western Atlantic into the Gulf of Mexico.

A southward dip in the jet stream across the eastern states is expected to miss out on ushering Harvey away, allowing the tropical cyclone to stall for days.

Randy Cerveny, climate researcher and professor at Arizona State University, explains.

“The fact that we’re hot is one reason why Houston is wet,” Cerveny said. “If we didn’t have this big high- pressure system over the Southwest right now, that tropical cyclone would have moved across Texas and we would have gotten some of the moisture in New Mexico and into Arizona. Because we’ve got what’s called a blocking high, it’s just sat there.”

Ken Waters, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Phoenix, agreed. Waters added that another area of high pressure to the east of Harvey also has contributed to the storm’s slow movement.

“It’s kind of like a balance of forces,” Waters said. “High pressure over us, and another high-pressure area over the Gulf of Mexico. They kind of counterbalance each other such that the storm is in the middle and has no real good place to go.”

Looking at the forecast, it seems those conditions may persist for a while, at least on the western side of the storm.

No might, right Wrote:
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>
> “The fact that we’re HOT is one reason why
> Houston is wet,”

Global warming. QED

Lemme guess...the 1900 Galveston Hurricane was, wait for it, MUH GLOBLAL WARMING!!!!!!

Libtardz!

Lolz!

I like it when a trumpster shows a desire to learn - I admire intellectual curiosity.

The residents of Galveston were slaughtered when a storm surge buldozed all the shoddily constructed buldings along the shore.

The Texas shore today is protected by seawalls, and better building standards - testimony to the importance of strong government.

it's the heat, stupid... Wrote:
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> No might, right Wrote:
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> >
> > “The fact that we’re HOT is one reason why
> > Houston is wet,”
>
> Global warming. QED


He's saying that it's hot IN ARIZONA where the author at Arizona State University was writing from because of the same high pressure system which was sitting stalled there which was what was blocking the hurricane to the west.

And hot weather in AZ in August <> "global warming." If you want to know why AZ is hot this time of year, here's a good explanation, none of which is unusual or attributed to "global warming."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-weather/2016/06/16/why-is-phoenix-so-hot/85950934/

Dummy. QED

lol

there's an answer to that! Wrote:
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> I like it when a trumpster shows a desire to learn
> - I admire intellectual curiosity.
>
> The residents of Galveston were slaughtered when a
> storm surge buldozed all the shoddily constructed
> buldings along the shore.
>
> The Texas shore today is protected by seawalls,
> and better building standards - testimony to the
> importance of strong government.


Ummm, the Galveston Seawall was built in 1904 by the local county using bonds sold commercially and mostly purchased by local residents and constructed by private contractors. There was little to no involvement by the Federal government other than another smaller section built later to protect a fort there which did receive Federal funding.



I'm sure that there's been other funding beyond that over the years but the primary seawall (still in use) was not.

just said government.

I win.

Oh, to the other poster, global warming affects Arizona too, not just Texas!

Double win!

who said fed? Wrote:
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> just said government.
>
> I win.


Sorry, the anarchists are on your side. Nobody else has any issue with government per se. The seawall was not the result of "strong government" it was the result of local civic and interests.


>
> Oh, to the other poster, global warming affects
> Arizona too, not just Texas!
>

So in other words you didn't read it. In particular this section:

Quote

Under (high) pressure

Folks who look at weather maps regularly will notice that there is often a big H near or directly over Arizona. That H is how meteorologists represent areas of high pressure.

High pressure often creates clear, dry conditions that offer a greater opportunity for things to heat up. Arizona is under the influence of a persistent area of high pressure. Some persistent highs have catchy names like the Bermuda High that hangs around the East Coast of the United States. Our high is known as the Eastern Pacific subtropical high-pressure system.

The system isn’t always right overhead, but it never goes too far.

“On the weather time scale it gets shoved out of the way,” Crimmins said. “It builds north, gets shoved south, wanders off to the east or whatever. Climatologically, that high-pressure system is really close to Arizona just about all year long. We’re always under the influence of this sinking air.”

The system's wandering plays a big role in monsoon conditions. When it moves far enough east it helps bring moisture into the area from the Gulf of California, which fuels summer storms.

The system is also a factor in the heat wave we're expecting this weekend. High-pressure systems can vary in strength and the persistent high over the Southwest is expected to intensify in the coming days. High temperatures in Phoenix could top 115 degrees Sunday and could reach 120 Monday.

i.e., it's typical for AZ this time of year.


> Double win!


Yes, you win the double dummy prize for the day. So far... Gerry's still got plenty of time to top you.

Hurricane Irma is following Harvey's exact footsteps! Will the gulf coast get slammed AGAIN?


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at1.shtml?cone#contents

The weather is constantly changing all.over.the.world!

There is no global warming.

There is no global cooling.

There's just constantly changing weather.

That's natures way of cleaning itself!

Natural disasters are nothing more than a small reset to the areas they affect.

By the year 2030, Texas will get hit with 10-15 category 5 hurricanes per year.

Not global warming, it's because I paid bribes to thousands of city and county officials through the years. They allowed me to build anything, anywhere I wanted with no regard for drainage infrastructure. I told them concrete absorbs water and they believed me.

Global warming might be true, might not.

It's too complex and too many variables/unknown factors for anyone to say, even top scientists are fools if they say yes or no.

People who swear definitively yes or no are doing science and truth a disservice.

There will be another hurricane every damn summer. I think New Orleans, Miami, and NYC will have to be abandoned as well. And Boston.

trumpitality Wrote:
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> Global warming might be true, might not.
>
> It's too complex and too many variables/unknown
> factors for anyone to say, even top scientists are
> fools if they say yes or no.
>
> People who swear definitively yes or no are doing
> science and truth a disservice.


It was just luck they got that eclipse think right

Al Gore and Co. were yesterday's FAKE NEWS ... Old News .. Old and FAKE.

There is no crisis with respect to any rise in global temperature .

The good folks in Houston beg to differ.

wake-up call Wrote:
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Burning more coal will solve the problem.

What's happening n the Gulf?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5

ruh-roh! Wrote:
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> What's happening n the Gulf?
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=
> 5


Same thing that happens every year.

"The Great Galveston Hurricane was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, Galveston, Texas, in the United States, leaving about 6,000 to 12,000 dead. It remains to the present day the deadliest natural disaster in US history."

Business as usual in south Texas. Rampant development in flood prone areas made necessary by huge population increases makes these natural disasters seem greater than they really are. Science tells us in the absence of upper level steering currents in the atmosphere, stalled hurricanes will deliver record amounts of rain.

The OP is a dumbass.

it's getting waaaaaarmer Wrote:
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> By the year 2030, Texas will get hit with 10-15
> category 5 hurricanes per year.

They will need more bass boats.....

more hurricanes on theh way...

Bass ass Master Wrote:
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> it's getting waaaaaarmer Wrote:
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> > By the year 2030, Texas will get hit with 10-15
> > category 5 hurricanes per year.
>
> They will need more bass boats.....


Probably not since hurricanes hitting the US are down from what they were in the passt.

But if Texas gets nailed by another catastrophic hurricane this year, that pretty much proves OP's point.

NOW do you understand the effect Al Gore is having on the climate change of Mother Earth?

well, we'll see..... Wrote:
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> But if Texas gets nailed by another catastrophic
> hurricane this year, that pretty much proves OP's
> point.


No.

1871, 6/02 - Galveston - - 4 999
1871, 6/09 - Beaumont - - - -
1871, 10/2 - Galveston - - 3+ -

1886, 6/13 Number 1 Cameron 80 1 - 997
1886, 8/20 Number 5 Indianola 100 2 20 984
1886, 9/22 Number 7 S of Brownsville 100 2 - -
1886, 10/12 Number 9 Beaumont 100 2 150

19th century shit won't cut it!

The USA is at a century low in hurricane occurrence volume in the last 15 years due to global cooling.

more stats! more stats! Wrote:
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> 19th century shit won't cut it!


Uh, yeah, it kinda does. lol

there won't be any more big hurricanes this year?

so, you are sure Wrote:
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> there won't be any more big hurricanes this year?


Multiple hurricanes in a season is nothing new and means nothing.

It will take ten, twenty, thirty hurricanes in a year to make you understand the foolishness of your ways?

so you DON'T understand Wrote:
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> It will take ten, twenty, thirty hurricanes in a
> year to make you understand the foolishness of
> your ways?


Hasn't happened. The earlier prediction that there should be many more by now didn't happen, in fact, just the opposite. Another one this year won't mean squat.

and then you will see that I am right.

there will be more hurricanes Wrote:
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> and then you will see that I am right.


Deep bro.

Meanwhile in reality world there have been less.

In fact, despite the stupid 97% consensus nonsense that you gobble down like a fat girl at a free buffet, there are many climate scientists who believe that 'climate change' will result in fewer hurricanes.

the overall trend will be toward more, more, MORE!

normal cycles Wrote:
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> the overall trend will be toward more, more, MORE!


"The new simulation isn’t all that surprising, given that even the scientist most strongly associated with the prediction that hurricanes will get fiercer—Kerry Emanuel of MIT—has already said that “global warming should cause hurricane frequency to fall.”Now, scientists led by Tom Knutson of the NOAA Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory calculate that there will be 27 percent fewer tropical storms and 18 percent fewer hurricanes by century’s end. The number of major hurricanes should fall by 8 percent."

But keep arguing with me - I want this thread to remain at the top of the page.

I vote for MORE!!!! Wrote:
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> But keep arguing with me - I want this thread to
> remain at the top of the page.


I enjoy making people like you who don't know what the fuck they're talking about look stupid.

If another hurricane hits Texas this season, it will be a sublime 'I told you so' moment.

That's fine Wrote:
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> If another hurricane hits Texas this season, it
> will be a sublime 'I told you so' moment.


Retards are easily entertained.

But it will mean squat.

If you had facts, data, statistics, logic, you would have regaled me with same. Instead, you have reduced yourself to childish, petulant personal attacks. I will take this as your tacit confession that I am right. Or wait for the next seasonal hurricane to PROVE I am right. Either way works for me.

Already did but I'm bored with you now.

You're too stupid to argue with.


.

I guess we'll jsut have to put this on hold - if there are no more Texas hurricanes this season, you are right. If there are, then I am right. Time will tell. tickticktickticktick

The 1906 in San Francisco Earthquake was clearly caused by Global Warming. Roosevelt was an idiot, for he would not admit it was real.

Fucking idiots were trying to frack for gold; all they accomplished was to fuck up the city.

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wake-up call Wrote:
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Stop with the 3... 2... 1... bullshit.

It's way too gay.

Angry right-wingers, start your engines -

On your mark! Get set! Go!!!!!!

too gay? let's try again... Wrote:
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> Angry right-wingers, start your engines -


Start your engines? What a fag.

Are you one of those in-betweeners? Doing the male to chick shit surgery?

Question: Let's assume you're gay, since you sound gay. After you become a woman, will you be attracted to straight guys or homo guys?
What if the straight guys aren't attracted to your bone structure or fake private parts, and the homo guys aren't interested in anal sex with you and your green eye shadow?
Then, what?
Will you become a lesbian?

Hurricane Irma is going to be a major hurricane out in the Atlantic heading our way. Intensifying as we speak. They retired the last name they used for I last year being Irene because of the damage that Hurricane caused.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-irma-hurricane-irma-atlantic-ocean



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/31/2017 04:42AM by Gerrymanderer2.

Trump is cursed. Republicans are cursed. God hates Republicans.

This bitch may decide to cut up the east coast. All the rightards on this website surely deserve it.

What was that every rightard on this thread was saying?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2017/08/30/tropical-storm-irma-forms/616055001/

OMG!!!! Another Hurricane in the time of year when Hurricanes naturally form?????

WHAT ARE THE CHANCES????????

Libtardz!

Lolz!

We all gonna die, one way or another. Cancer, blunt force trauma, impaled by shards of metal from a vehicle accident, sepsis, nuclear war, feeding the animals(my favorite), nature gone wild, etc. So why so concerned about destroying the planet? What's your poison? Mine's gin & tonic.
So enjoy a cheeseburger (but don't choke) and just maybe you'll have a heart attack before the car crash into a semi. And a hurricane washes your body out to sea for the crabs to devour.

Libtardz!!! LoLz!! Wrote:
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> OMG!!!! Another Hurricane in the time of year when
> Hurricanes naturally form?????
>
> WHAT ARE THE CHANCES????????
>
> Libtardz!
>
> Lolz!


U CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

Gonna be the world's first cat 6! God wants you to get the message about global warming whether you pick up the phone or not!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of whether global warming is real or not, I've been around long enough to know to be prepared in the event of a disaster, manmade or natural!

I have several places that I can bring my family, in the event of trouble, that are fully stocked with anything we would ever need. I also have enough equipment for us to defend ourselves if the natives get restless!

There will come a day that the investment will pay off for my family.

Be prepared for the worst and you'll be prepared for anything!

Bugout Bag Bobby Wrote:
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> Regardless of whether global warming is real or
> not, I've been around long enough to know to be
> prepared in the event of a disaster, manmade or
> natural!
>
> I have several places that I can bring my family,
> in the event of trouble, that are fully stocked
> with anything we would ever need. I also have
> enough equipment for us to defend ourselves if the
> natives get restless!
>
> There will come a day that the investment will pay
> off for my family.
>
> Be prepared for the worst and you'll be prepared
> for anything!


Still gonna die, one way or anther. Are you really prepared?

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Strikes don't matter. Nobody says that global warming will increase strikes on the mainland. That's a steering issue not an intensity issue.

It's arguable that global warming is increasing the amount of water in the atmosphere resulting in wetter storms, not just in hurricanes, with increasing flood risks.

Uh, no retard.

We all know this was geo-engineered by the CIA to prevent Brexit. Soon 1/2 the population will be living at illegal alien status so it won't matter how many come over.

3U63X Wrote:
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> Strikes don't matter. Nobody says that global
> warming will increase strikes on the mainland.
> That's a steering issue not an intensity issue.
>
> It's arguable that global warming is increasing
> the amount of water in the atmosphere resulting in
> wetter storms, not just in hurricanes, with
> increasing flood risks.


You care about hurricanes that don't strike? It's also a 'steering issue' which determines to a large degree which storms develop into hurricanes and their intensity. How would you like to bound and qualify it to try to force your hypothesis to be true as climate changetards always want to do? Just let me know. lol

It's arguable that it's not and reality shows that it hasn't. In fact, the opposite.

I didn't say that hurricanes were increasing globally, just that to look at mainland US strikes is irrelevant. Global warming may not increase the frequency and intensity of tropical cyclones. Nobody really knows. That doesn't mean that global warming isn't real. It is. What the effects of it will be - severe, moderate, inconsequential - is what the question is.

I can put up my own chart too:
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PMCLB Wrote:
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> I didn't say that hurricanes were increasing
> globally, just that to look at mainland US strikes
> is irrelevant. Global warming may not increase
> the frequency and intensity of tropical cyclones.
> Nobody really knows. That doesn't mean that
> global warming isn't real. It is. What the
> effects of it will be - severe, moderate,
> inconsequential - is what the question is.
>
> I can put up my own chart too:


Nobody knows? You seemed to know earlier. Settled science! 97% consensus! lol

BTW, that's a gamed chart which only includes the North Atlantic and only for a cherry-picked time frame which drops the higher frequencies before and stops at 2005 which was a particularly high year (falling greatly since). Which is about the only thing that works somewhat. Which is why you see it used by climate changetards. lol

The fact is that "global warming" is or will cause more hurricanes and/or greater intensity of storms is not at all demonstrated. As I said, in the larger body of data just the opposite for the most part. "It's science."

InverseCorrelationerer2 Wrote:
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> PMCLB Wrote:
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> > I didn't say that hurricanes were increasing
> > globally, just that to look at mainland US
> strikes
> > is irrelevant. Global warming may not increase
> > the frequency and intensity of tropical
> cyclones.
> > Nobody really knows. That doesn't mean that
> > global warming isn't real. It is. What the
> > effects of it will be - severe, moderate,
> > inconsequential - is what the question is.
> >
> > I can put up my own chart too:
>
>
> Nobody knows? You seemed to know earlier. Settled
> science! 97% consensus! lol
>
> BTW, that's a gamed chart which only includes the
> North Atlantic and only for a cherry-picked time
> frame which drops the higher frequencies before
> and stops at 2005 which was a particularly high
> year (falling greatly since). Which is about the
> only thing that works somewhat. Which is why you
> see it used by climate changetards. lol
>
> The fact is that "global warming" is or will cause
> more hurricanes and/or greater intensity of storms
> is not at all demonstrated. As I said, in the
> larger body of data just the opposite for the most
> part. "It's science."

You really don't read very well, do you?

Global warming deniers - take your heads out of the sand before you drown in the storm surge! (You'll thank me later.)

rut-roh! Irma is now Category 3! Wrote:
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> Global warming deniers - take your heads out of
> the sand before you drown in the storm surge!
> (You'll thank me later.)


It don't matter. Everyone is fucked in the near future. Enjoy what you have and accept it won't last.
The point of no return has long past.

Hurricanes, tornadoes, and wildfires are gonna wipe out the south, the east, the midwest, and the mountain states, leaving only the pacific coast to provide succor, and then they will get hit by earthquakes!

I smoke cigarettes because a very few courageous unbiased not fake scientists told the truth

Let them drown themselves. Stop bailing them out.

Just so the "Global Warming" idiots know - It was just a few decades ago that the Scientists were "97% consensus" on how a NEW ICE AGE and GLOBAL COOLING was inevitable.

ice age a cometh Wrote:
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> Just so the "Global Warming" idiots know - It was
> just a few decades ago that the Scientists were
> "97% consensus" on how a NEW ICE AGE and GLOBAL
> COOLING was inevitable.


Absolutely wrong. Untrue. And don't bother posting a pic of the Newsweek cover from 1978 or whenever. You're an idiot if you think that proves your "point".

The oceans will get so warm, they will fuel a series of hypercanes* that will cool the ocean back to ice age temperatures (and wipe out the Eastern Seaboard and the Gulf Coast in the process.)

*these will feature 350 mph winds, 50 foot storm surges, and if the freakin hypercane stalls over one bit of land, as did harvey, up to 50 feet of rain in places.

BGTVJ Wrote:
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> ice age a cometh Wrote:
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> > Just so the "Global Warming" idiots know - It
> was
> > just a few decades ago that the Scientists were
> > "97% consensus" on how a NEW ICE AGE and GLOBAL
> > COOLING was inevitable.
>
>
> Absolutely wrong. Untrue. And don't bother
> posting a pic of the Newsweek cover from 1978 or
> whenever. You're an idiot if you think that proves
> your "point".


You are the one who's absolutely wrong. It was not just a few popular magazine covers as some try to play it off. Cooling was the general consensus. In large part because that was what was happening at that time. You can argue what happened from there, that science corrected based on more info, etc., but to try to say that was not the case at the time is disingenuous.

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In 1967 Hansen went to work for NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, in New York City, where he continued his research on planetary problems. Around 1970, some scientists suspected Earth was entering a period of global cooling. Decades prior, the brilliant Serbian mathematician Milutin Milankovitch had explained how our world warms and cools on roughly 100,000-year cycles due to its slowly changing position relative to the Sun. Milankovitch’s theory suggested Earth should be just beginning to head into its next ice age cycle. The surface temperature data gathered by Mitchell seemed to agree; the record showed that Earth experienced a period of cooling (by about 0.3°C) from 1940 through 1970. Of course, Mitchell was only collecting data over a fraction of the Northern Hemisphere—from 20 to 90 degrees North latitude. Still, the result drew public attention and a number of speculative articles about Earth’s coming ice age appeared in newspapers and magazines.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

CIA Report from 1974 on 'climate change' at that time being concerns with the effects and geopolitical implication of global cooling.

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CLIMATIC PHENOMENA AND THE STATE OF THE ART

Since the late 1960s, a number of foreboding climatic predictions has appeared in various climatic, meterological, and geological periodicals, consistently following one of two themes.

A global climatic change was underway global climatic change would create worldwide agriculture failures in the 1970s.

Most meteorologists argued that they could not find any justification for these predictions.

The climatologists who argued for the proposition could not provide definitive
causal explanations for their hypothesis.

Early in the 1970s a series of adverse climatic anomalies occurred:

The world's snow and ice cover had increased by at least 10 to 15 percent.

In the eastern Canadian area of' the Arctic Greenland, below normal temperatures were recorded for 19 consecutive months. Nothing like this had happened in the last 100 years.

The Moscow region suffered its worst drought in three to five hundred years.

Drought occurred in Central America, the sub-Sahara, South Asia, China, and
Australia.

Massive floods took place in the midwestem United States.

Within a single year, adversity had visited almost every nation on the globe...

The western world's leadlng climatologists have confirmed reports of a detrimental global climatic change [cooling]. The stability of most nations is based upon a dependable source of food, but this stability will not be possible under the new cllmatic era. A forecast by the University of Wisconsin projects that the Earth's climate is returning to that of the neo·boreal era (1600-1850) - an era of drought, famine, and political unrest in the western world....

Scientists are confident that unless man is able to effectively modify the climate, the northern regions, such as Canada, the European part of the Soviet Union, and major areas in northern China, will again be covered with 100 to 200 feet of ice and snow. That this will occur within the next 2,500 years they are quite positive; that it may occur sooner is open to speculation...

http://www.governmentattic.org/18docs/CIAclimateResearchIntellProbs_1974.pdf

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The New York Times

Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead; Scientists Ponder Why World's Climate Is Changing; a Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable

By WALTER SULLIVAN
May 21, 1975

http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/ny-times-1975-05-21.pdf

Plenty more from the time.

We will see what the remainder of the 2017 hurricane season has to offer, and then I will decide what's going on.

40 YEAR OLD INFO! LOL! Wrote:
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> We will see what the remainder of the 2017
> hurricane season has to offer, and then I will
> decide what's going on.


The question wasn't what happening now. It was regarding conventional wisdom at that time.

And whatever happens in one year is meaningless. That's called "weather." You know, like how you parrot that when there's an extraordinarily cold winter. lol

again, I will decide what has meaning. You already have your mind made up and thus are too resistant to objective analysis.

BGTVJ Wrote:
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> And don't bother
> posting a pic of the Newsweek cover from 1978 or
> whenever.


Haha thanks, you should have known better lolz. These mean as much as your graphs and numbers I'm sure.

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or an extraordinary hurricane? Wrote:
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> again, I will decide what has meaning. You already
> have your mind made up and thus are too resistant
> to objective analysis.


LOL! Says the idiot who posts that they'll "decides what has meaning" and ignores the evidence posted.

/SMFH

lol

Wonder what she'll do?

Will she glide South of Cuba and hit Mexico? Or Texas? Or New Orleans?

Will she eviscerate Florida?

Will she hit the DC area?

Maybe slam NJ and NY? If so, will Trump and Christie do a photo op?

Perhaps she'll just fizzle, or sail east across the Atlantic to annoy the euros.

In any case, it will be good to get this debate resolved....

Wow I wonder what the Ford Torino Cobra went for new.....

Back then, everyone still thought the Vietnam War was a good idea! (LOLZ!)

trumpitality Wrote:
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> Wow I wonder what the Ford Torino Cobra went for
> new.....




Not to be left out of the horsepower arms race, the Blue Oval folks took things one step further by unleashing a new-for-1969 variant to their intermediate Fairlane/Torino family. Dealers and factory literature simply called it the Ford Cobra; the simplistic name was derived directly from the 428 Cobra Jet engine that was included as standard equipment. Like the Mopars, the Cobra also came with a four-speed stick, a "competition" suspension, wide tires and none of the frilly stuff that added weight or zapped power, and with an average base sticker price of just $3,250.

TODAY"S LIBS:

Something goes wrong: Mankind's fault

Something goes right: Credit themselves.

Ice Age Coming! It's "Science!" Wrote:
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> BGTVJ Wrote:
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> -----
> > And don't bother
> > posting a pic of the Newsweek cover from 1978
> or
> > whenever.
>
>
> Haha thanks, you should have known better lolz.
> These mean as much as your graphs and numbers I'm
> sure.
>
> .

Hey dumbfuck, the Time magazine cover is a doctored hoax, you idiot. Google it you fucking moron, if you know how.

wrong OP** they are all la nina now instead of "global warming"

HOWEVER - tsunami bounce the holy hell out of the pacific - when they do it is much more than some small swell

yet you never hear scientific reports about rainfall due to tsunami

** they are now 'blaming' all bad weather on LA NINA since about 1998 when illegals began flooding into DC (a very slow movement of a swell they say - saying nothing about temperature thereof)


certainly oceans have their own weather and bring it inland - but giving it a spanish name and blaming all weather events on it: simply bullshit

^^ I fucking hate liberals. they flooded google with FAKE NEWS IMAGES of computer generated "what if" events (when you look for tsunami photos and events, you get shitloads of fake photos and events that might happen but is contested to be a might)

KWNPP Wrote:
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> Hey dumbfuck, the Time magazine cover is a
> doctored hoax, you idiot. Google it you fucking
> moron, if you know how.


Whoa now, settle down, Trigger.

There's a good boy.

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nj7xf Wrote:
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> ^^ I fucking hate liberals. they flooded google
> with FAKE NEWS IMAGES of computer generated "what
> if" events (when you look for tsunami photos and
> events, you get shitloads of fake photos and
> events that might happen but is contested to be a
> might)


In reality you hate yourself, hey everyone else hates you to

KWNPP Wrote:
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> Ice Age Coming! It's "Science!" Wrote:
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> -----
> > BGTVJ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And don't bother
> > > posting a pic of the Newsweek cover from 1978
> > or
> > > whenever.
> >
> >
> > Haha thanks, you should have known better lolz.
> > These mean as much as your graphs and numbers
> I'm
> > sure.
> >
> > .
>
> Hey dumbfuck, the Time magazine cover is a
> doctored hoax, you idiot. Google it you fucking
> moron, if you know how.


.

And aimed smack at the US!

That's what Gerry says. If so, it proves global warming is happening.

Two more potential storm systems.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/


The other two systems are acting up, too.

strap in folks, we're in for a wild ride!

All these hurricanes rolling across the Atlantic during the season make me think of bowling balls...

If you didn't know any better, you might think this happens every year in September.

wake-up call Wrote:
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> And cue an angry right-wing response in
> 3..2...1.....


Faux News said the scientists are wrong, so it must be true. Burn more coal.

Faux News Wrote:
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> wake-up call Wrote:
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> -----
> > And cue an angry right-wing response in
> > 3..2...1.....
>
>
> I heard somebody on MSNBC say Faux News, so
> now I say Faux news. I've never actually looked
> at what scientists say, and being a sociology major
> I wouldn't understand it anyway, I just repeat what
> I hear on MSNBC because it must be true. Watch more MSNBC.


^ FIFY

The system following Irma now has a 60% chance of becoming a storm. Things are getting a bit active out there.

All the climate change deniers look stupid NOW! It will be a major test of Donald Trump' maturity to see if he can admit being wrong.

Now do you dumb right-wingers understand global warming and what it means? Now do you?

185 MPH winds! Wrote:
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> Now do you dumb right-wingers understand global
> warming and what it means? Now do you?


No. Please explain it to us.



(This should be interesting).

more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer oceans -> bigger hurricanes*.







*and Irma's a doozie!

happy to oblige! Wrote:
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> more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer oceans ->
> bigger hurricanes*.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *and Irma's a doozie!


That's an excellent theory. Do you have evidence? Also, can you please explain how the massive hurricanes formed prior to the "global warming"? Also, isn't it called climate change now?

scientific method Wrote:
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> happy to oblige! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer oceans
> ->
> > bigger hurricanes*.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *and Irma's a doozie!
>
>
> That's an excellent theory. Do you have evidence?
> Also, can you please explain how the massive
> hurricanes formed prior to the "global warming"?
> Also, isn't it called climate change now?


Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on record

happy to oblige! Wrote:
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> more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer oceans ->
> bigger hurricanes*.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *and Irma's a doozie!


Except there haven't been. There have been less in recent years. And there were more bigger storms in the past at much lower levels of CO2 (e.g., late 1800s, 1930s). That's not even considering that measurement abilities have increased and that older data likely understates many of the earlier larger storms. When they were flying old piston prop-driven DC-6s they did not go into the strongest parts of storms to directly measure anything and did not have the remote measurement capabilities that we now have.

Bigleee Wrote:
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> scientific method Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> oceans
> > ->
> > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> >
> >
> > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> evidence?
> > Also, can you please explain how the massive
> > hurricanes formed prior to the "global warming"?
>
> > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
>
>
> Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on record


So, a single hurricane out of thousands of years of hurricanes is all the evidence you have? And when did these "records" start?

Glad I don't live in the coast....

^^^^the judge of what?

I think Irma may turn out to be the judge, jury, and executioner.

you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
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> Bigleee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > scientific method Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > oceans
> > > ->
> > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > >
> > >
> > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > evidence?
> > > Also, can you please explain how the massive
> > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> warming"?
> >
> > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> >
> >
> > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> record
>
>
> So, a single hurricane out of thousands of years
> of hurricanes is all the evidence you have? And
> when did these "records" start?


Google it dude

Bigleee Wrote:
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> scientific method Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> oceans
> > ->
> > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> >
> >
> > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> evidence?
> > Also, can you please explain how the massive
> > hurricanes formed prior to the "global warming"?
>
> > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
>
>
> Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on record


It is not.

What measure of 'bigger' are you citing exactly? The Saffir-MSNBC scale?

Gods will? Wrote:
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> you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bigleee Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > scientific method Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > oceans
> > > > ->
> > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > evidence?
> > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> massive
> > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > warming"?
> > >
> > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > >
> > >
> > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > record
> >
> >
> > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> years
> > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
> And
> > when did these "records" start?
>
>
> Google it dude I have no fucking clue. I just made some shit up.


^ FIFY

FFXU Post Translator Wrote:
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> Gods will? Wrote:
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> -----
> > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > > oceans
> > > > > ->
> > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > > evidence?
> > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > massive
> > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > warming"?
> > > >
> > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record
> > >
> > >
> > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> > years
> > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
> > And
> > > when did these "records" start?
> >
> >
> > Google it dude I have no fucking clue. I
> just made some shit up.
>
>
> ^ FIFY


You are an idiot
If you have facts use them
You kept asking questions that you can easily look up
But you already have your mind made up and thought you were being smart

'Bigger' what? Wrote:
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> Bigleee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > scientific method Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > oceans
> > > ->
> > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > >
> > >
> > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > evidence?
> > > Also, can you please explain how the massive
> > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> warming"?
> >
> > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> >
> >
> > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> record
>
>
> It is not.
>
> What measure of 'bigger' are you citing exactly?
> The Saffir-MSNBC scale?


Please list the bigger ones

All these global-warming-induced hurricanes, and they're desperate to keep drinking the denier koolaid.

Well, Harvey may have just been a fluke, but if Irma is catastrophic, they will just have to start facing the music.

B hgcj Wrote:
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> 'Bigger' what? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bigleee Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > scientific method Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > oceans
> > > > ->
> > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > evidence?
> > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> massive
> > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > warming"?
> > >
> > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > >
> > >
> > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > record
> >
> >
> > It is not.
> >
> > What measure of 'bigger' are you citing exactly?
>
> > The Saffir-MSNBC scale?
>
>
> Please list the bigger ones


"Bigger" was your characterization (which is the first clue that you have no clue). What measure of "bigger" would you like to use? Area affected? Highest measured wind speeds? Barometric pressure? Overall kinetic energy?

Surely you had some specific measure that you were citing right?

Gods will? Wrote:
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> you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bigleee Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > scientific method Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > oceans
> > > > ->
> > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > evidence?
> > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> massive
> > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > warming"?
> > >
> > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > >
> > >
> > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > record
> >
> >
> > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> years
> > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
> And
> > when did these "records" start?
>
>
> Google it dude

So, you have no idea....

rightwingers getting triggered Wrote:
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> All these global-warming-induced hurricanes, and
> they're desperate to keep drinking the denier
> koolaid.
>
> Well, Harvey may have just been a fluke, but if
> Irma is catastrophic, they will just have to start
> facing the music.


How were hurricanes induced before global warming????

'Bigger' what? Wrote:
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> B hgcj Wrote:
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> > 'Bigger' what? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > > oceans
> > > > > ->
> > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > > evidence?
> > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > massive
> > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > warming"?
> > > >
> > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not.
> > >
> > > What measure of 'bigger' are you citing
> exactly?
> >
> > > The Saffir-MSNBC scale?
> >
> >
> > Please list the bigger ones
>
>
> "Bigger" was your characterization (which is the
> first clue that you have no clue). What measure
> of "bigger" would you like to use? Area affected?
> Highest measured wind speeds? Barometric
> pressure? Overall kinetic energy?
>
> Surely you had some specific measure that you were
> citing right?


You said
It is not
Prove it

bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
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> Gods will? Wrote:
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> > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > > oceans
> > > > > ->
> > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > > evidence?
> > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > massive
> > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > warming"?
> > > >
> > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record
> > >
> > >
> > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> > years
> > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
> > And
> > > when did these "records" start?
> >
> >
> > Google it dude
>
> So, you have no idea....


Hell no
I just jumped in and added the biggest post
The weather channel didn't go into to those other issues

bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
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> Gods will? Wrote:
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> -----
> > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat -> warmer
> > > > oceans
> > > > > ->
> > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you have
> > > > evidence?
> > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > massive
> > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > warming"?
> > > >
> > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record
> > >
> > >
> > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> > years
> > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
> > And
> > > when did these "records" start?
> >
> >
> > Google it dude
>
> So, you have no idea....


Fill us in smart guy

Mvmbkj Wrote:
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> > Gods will? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat ->
> warmer
> > > > > oceans
> > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you
> have
> > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > > massive
> > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > > warming"?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change
> now?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > > record
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands of
> > > years
> > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you have?
>
> > > And
> > > > when did these "records" start?
> > >
> > >
> > > Google it dude
> >
> > So, you have no idea....
>
>
> Fill us in smart guy


With what? You are the one making claims. I simply asked you to provide evidence supporting those claims. Are you conceding you have no evidence to support your claims?

Are you having trouble following along?

Nj,l Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > 'Bigger' what? Wrote:
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bigleee Wrote:
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> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > scientific method Wrote:
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat ->
> warmer
> > > > > oceans
> > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you
> have
> > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > > massive
> > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the "global
> > > > warming"?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change
> now?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > > record
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is not.
> > > >
> > > > What measure of 'bigger' are you citing
> > exactly?
> > >
> > > > The Saffir-MSNBC scale?
> > >
> > >
> > > Please list the bigger ones
> >
> >
> > "Bigger" was your characterization (which is
> the
> > first clue that you have no clue). What
> measure
> > of "bigger" would you like to use? Area
> affected?
> > Highest measured wind speeds? Barometric
> > pressure? Overall kinetic energy?
> >
> > Surely you had some specific measure that you
> were
> > citing right?
>
>
> You said
> It is not
> Prove it


So no proof

is churning out there in the Atlantic.

ball is in your court Wrote:
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> Mvmbkj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat ->
> > warmer
> > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you
> > have
> > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > Also, can you please explain how the
> > > > massive
> > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the
> "global
> > > > > warming"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate change
> > now?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane
> on
> > > > > record
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands
> of
> > > > years
> > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you
> have?
> >
> > > > And
> > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Google it dude
> > >
> > > So, you have no idea....
> >
> >
> > Fill us in smart guy
>
>
> With what? You are the one making claims. I
> simply asked you to provide evidence supporting
> those claims. Are you conceding you have no
> evidence to support your claims?
>
> Are you having trouble following along?


I'm not the person who posted the claims
You want to act like the science guy
So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us

Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg) in October 2005.

Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger" in this case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1 from the below).

Quote

Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest Atlantic Hurricane on Record

Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017, 10:13 AM EDT

Hurricane Irma intensified into an extremely dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with top sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday morning, putting it among the strongest Atlantic hurricanes ever observed. Irma's winds are the most powerful ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane north of the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of Mexico. Measurements from Hurricane Hunter aircraft found peak winds of close to 180 mph, well above the 157-mph threshold for Category 5 strength. At 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye measured a central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb lower than the previous pass, so Irma is still strengthening.

Nhchmb Wrote:
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> ball is in your court Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat ->
> > > warmer
> > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do you
> > > have
> > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > Also, can you please explain how
> the
> > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the
> > "global
> > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate
> change
> > > now?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> hurricane
> > on
> > > > > > record
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of thousands
> > of
> > > > > years
> > > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you
> > have?
> > >
> > > > > And
> > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Google it dude
> > > >
> > > > So, you have no idea....
> > >
> > >
> > > Fill us in smart guy
> >
> >
> > With what? You are the one making claims. I
> > simply asked you to provide evidence supporting
> > those claims. Are you conceding you have no
> > evidence to support your claims?
> >
> > Are you having trouble following along?
>
>
> I'm not the person who posted the claims
> You want to act like the science guy
> So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us


I want to act like a science guy? How? By asking a couple of questions? You really are confused.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_intense_tropical_cyclones#Atlantic_Ocean


The frequency of 'intense' storms would seem to be picking up.
Looks like Irma may be striving for a record.

Nhchmb Wrote:
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> > With what? You are the one making claims. I
> > simply asked you to provide evidence supporting
> > those claims. Are you conceding you have no
> > evidence to support your claims?
> >
> > Are you having trouble following along?
>
>
> I'm not the person who posted the claims
> You want to act like the science guy
> So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us


You made the claim that:

> > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record
> > >

It appears now that this was just something that you pulled out of your butt.

Alex Jones and Donald Trump have not yet told me there is climate change so sorry, not buying it. Yes I know the vast majority of scientists in the field of Climatology agree man is causing an out of control warming event that will cost trillions and massive human suffering. Sounds good but Trump is the man - wont buy it till he and Sean, and Tucker and Alex all agree.

I dont trust Rush though, he is really fat. I mean Alex is thick and Don is has a big gut but Rush is too fat for me. Also I like trains...

Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
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> Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic
> hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an
> intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg) in October
> 2005.
>
> Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger" in this
> case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1 from the
> below).
>
>

Quote

> Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest Atlantic
> Hurricane on Record
>
> Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017, 10:13 AM
> EDT
>
> Hurricane Irma intensified into an extremely
> dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with top
> sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday morning,
> putting it among the strongest Atlantic hurricanes
> ever observed. Irma's winds are the most powerful
> ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane north of
> the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of Mexico.
> Measurements from Hurricane Hunter aircraft found
> peak winds of close to 180 mph, well above the
> 157-mph threshold for Category 5 strength. At
> 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye measured a
> central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb lower than
> the previous pass, so Irma is still
> strengthening.
>

Can't be true
'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
Must be fake news

Dr. Bitchslap Wrote:
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> Nhchmb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > > With what? You are the one making claims. I
> > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> supporting
> > > those claims. Are you conceding you have no
> > > evidence to support your claims?
> > >
> > > Are you having trouble following along?
> >
> >
> > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > You want to act like the science guy
> > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us
>
>
> You made the claim that:
>
> > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > > record
> > > >
>
> It appears now that this was just something that
> you pulled out of your butt.


Nope
You probably feel stupider about now

see the ? Wrote:
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> Nhchmb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ball is in your court Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat
> ->
> > > > warmer
> > > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do
> you
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > > Also, can you please explain how
> > the
> > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the
> > > "global
> > > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate
> > change
> > > > now?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > hurricane
> > > on
> > > > > > > record
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of
> thousands
> > > of
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence you
> > > have?
> > > >
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Google it dude
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you have no idea....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fill us in smart guy
> > >
> > >
> > > With what? You are the one making claims. I
> > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> supporting
> > > those claims. Are you conceding you have no
> > > evidence to support your claims?
> > >
> > > Are you having trouble following along?
> >
> >
> > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > You want to act like the science guy
> > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us
>
>
> I want to act like a science guy? How? By asking
> a couple of questions? You really are confused.


The dude busted you
Move on

That bitch already has 185 mph winds., and is nowhere near finished developing. It might generate a storm surge that completely covers the Florida peninsula. Millions of people drowned. Trillion dollar devastation. Irreparable environmental damage. Georgia building a wall to keep out refuges. The UN sending 500,000 troops to maintain order.

That little mess in the gulf has now developed into a tropical depression. Fortunately, it seems to be targeting Mexico and not Texas.
Jose continues to gain strength.
Irma is on the warpath.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

Holding judgement Wrote:
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> Alex Jones and Donald Trump have not yet told me
> there is climate change so sorry, not buying it.
> Yes I know the vast majority of scientists in the
> field of Climatology agree man is causing an out
> of control warming event that will cost trillions
> and massive human suffering. Sounds good but
> Trump is the man - wont buy it till he and Sean,
> and Tucker and Alex all agree.
>
> I dont trust Rush though, he is really fat. I
> mean Alex is thick and Don is has a big gut but
> Rush is too fat for me. Also I like trains...


What the "consensus" of scientists actually say about the relationship between "climate change" and hurricanes/tropical cyclones:

Quote

"The most recent draft [August 2017] of a sweeping climate science report pulled together by 13 federal agencies as part of the National Climate Assessment suggested that the science linking hurricanes to climate change was still emerging. Looking back through the history of storms, “the trend signal has not yet had time to rise above the background variability of natural processes,” the report states.

i.e., There is no consensus that there is a relationship which can be shown at this point and substantial disagreement ranging from more to less to stronger to not. Modeling in some cases suggests that there may be. In others not. In others not above other natural factors. In reality, it has not been shown yet, in fact, definitely less in number, arguable in case of intensity depending on what's being compared and over what time period.

He did Wrote:
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> see the ? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nhchmb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ball is in your court Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat
> > ->
> > > > > warmer
> > > > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do
> > you
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > > > Also, can you please explain
> how
> > > the
> > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the
> > > > "global
> > > > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate
> > > change
> > > > > now?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > > hurricane
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of
> > thousands
> > > > of
> > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence
> you
> > > > have?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Google it dude
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, you have no idea....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Fill us in smart guy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With what? You are the one making claims.
> I
> > > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> > supporting
> > > > those claims. Are you conceding you have
> no
> > > > evidence to support your claims?
> > > >
> > > > Are you having trouble following along?
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > > You want to act like the science guy
> > > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us
> >
> >
> > I want to act like a science guy? How? By
> asking
> > a couple of questions? You really are
> confused.
>
>
> The dude busted you
> Move on


Busted me? Do tell...

He did Wrote:
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> see the ? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nhchmb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ball is in your court Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > you aren't much of a salesman Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped heat
> > ->
> > > > > warmer
> > > > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory. Do
> > you
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > > > Also, can you please explain
> how
> > > the
> > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to the
> > > > "global
> > > > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate
> > > change
> > > > > now?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > > hurricane
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of
> > thousands
> > > > of
> > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence
> you
> > > > have?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Google it dude
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, you have no idea....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Fill us in smart guy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With what? You are the one making claims.
> I
> > > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> > supporting
> > > > those claims. Are you conceding you have
> no
> > > > evidence to support your claims?
> > > >
> > > > Are you having trouble following along?
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > > You want to act like the science guy
> > > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on us
> >
> >
> > I want to act like a science guy? How? By
> asking
> > a couple of questions? You really are
> confused.
>
>
> The dude busted you
> Move on


YOU failed.

This storm is a monster that is for sure! Not sure what the pissing match on the thread is about. Warming trends are a factor known to intensify weather events such as hurricane - the more warm air the bigger the storm.

nhdpu Wrote:
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> > see the ? Wrote:
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>
> > -----
> > > Nhchmb Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > ball is in your court Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > you aren't much of a salesman
> Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped
> heat
> > > ->
> > > > > > warmer
> > > > > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory.
> Do
> > > you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, can you please explain
> > how
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to
> the
> > > > > "global
> > > > > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called climate
> > > > change
> > > > > > now?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > > > hurricane
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of
> > > thousands
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > of hurricanes is all the evidence
> > you
> > > > > have?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Google it dude
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, you have no idea....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fill us in smart guy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With what? You are the one making claims.
>
> > I
> > > > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> > > supporting
> > > > > those claims. Are you conceding you have
> > no
> > > > > evidence to support your claims?
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you having trouble following along?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > > > You want to act like the science guy
> > > > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge on
> us
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to act like a science guy? How? By
> > asking
> > > a couple of questions? You really are
> > confused.
> >
> >
> > The dude busted you
> > Move on
>
>
> YOU failed.


You took it up the ass dude
Just move on

I'm drunk and ain't reading all this shit...so I'm just gonna say
Fuck u faggot liberals and ur global warming bullshit

You know it Wrote:
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> nhdpu Wrote:
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> > He did Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > see the ? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Nhchmb Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > ball is in your court Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Mvmbkj Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > bullshit is starting to stink Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Gods will? Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > you aren't much of a salesman
> > Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > Bigleee Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > scientific method Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > happy to oblige! Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > more CO2 -> more trapped
> > heat
> > > > ->
> > > > > > > warmer
> > > > > > > > > > > oceans
> > > > > > > > > > > > ->
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bigger hurricanes*.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *and Irma's a doozie!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That's an excellent theory.
>
> > Do
> > > > you
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > evidence?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, can you please
> explain
> > > how
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > massive
> > > > > > > > > > > > hurricanes formed prior to
> > the
> > > > > > "global
> > > > > > > > > > warming"?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, isn't it called
> climate
> > > > > change
> > > > > > > now?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > > > > hurricane
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > record
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, a single hurricane out of
> > > > thousands
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > > of hurricanes is all the
> evidence
> > > you
> > > > > > have?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > > > when did these "records" start?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Google it dude
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, you have no idea....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fill us in smart guy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With what? You are the one making
> claims.
> >
> > > I
> > > > > > simply asked you to provide evidence
> > > > supporting
> > > > > > those claims. Are you conceding you
> have
> > > no
> > > > > > evidence to support your claims?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you having trouble following along?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not the person who posted the claims
> > > > > You want to act like the science guy
> > > > > So I'm asking you to lay some knowledge
> on
> > us
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I want to act like a science guy? How? By
> > > asking
> > > > a couple of questions? You really are
> > > confused.
> > >
> > >
> > > The dude busted you
> > > Move on
> >
> >
> > YOU failed.
>
>
> You took it up the ass dude
> Just move on


Umm, no. If this is the best exit strategy you can come up with, you failed at this too.

You know it Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > YOU failed.
>
>
> You took it up the ass dude
> Just move on


Typical dumbfuck talking out of his ass.

Thanks for confirming that.

Really helps makes your case.

lol

Dr. Assspeak Wrote:
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> You know it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > >
> > > YOU failed.
> >
> >
> > You took it up the ass dude
> > Just move on
>
>
> Typical dumbfuck talking out of his ass.
>
> Thanks for confirming that.
>
> Really helps makes your case.
>
> lol


What case?

Hfxhgc Wrote:
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> Dr. Assspeak Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You know it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > YOU failed.
> > >
> > >
> > > You took it up the ass dude
> > > Just move on
> >
> >
> > Typical dumbfuck talking out of his ass.
> >
> > Thanks for confirming that.
> >
> > Really helps makes your case.
> >
> > lol
>
>
> What case?


Exactly. You never had one.

Hold on Wrote:
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> Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic
> > hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an
> > intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg) in
> October
> > 2005.
> >
> > Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger" in
> this
> > case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1 from
> the
> > below).
> >
> >

Quote

> > Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest
> Atlantic
> > Hurricane on Record
> >
> > Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017, 10:13
> AM
> > EDT
> >
> > Hurricane Irma intensified into an extremely
> > dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with top
> > sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday morning,
> > putting it among the strongest Atlantic
> hurricanes
> > ever observed. Irma's winds are the most
> powerful
> > ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane north of
> > the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of Mexico.
> > Measurements from Hurricane Hunter aircraft
> found
> > peak winds of close to 180 mph, well above the
> > 157-mph threshold for Category 5 strength. At
> > 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye measured
> a
> > central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb lower
> than
> > the previous pass, so Irma is still
> > strengthening.
> >

>
>
> Can't be true
> 'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
> Must be fake news


As a trump supporter I can say this is fake news

Trump supporter Wrote:
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> Hold on Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic
> > > hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an
> > > intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg) in
> > October
> > > 2005.
> > >
> > > Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger" in
> > this
> > > case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1 from
> > the
> > > below).
> > >
> > >

Quote

> > > Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest
> > Atlantic
> > > Hurricane on Record
> > >
> > > Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017,
> 10:13
> > AM
> > > EDT
> > >
> > > Hurricane Irma intensified into an extremely
> > > dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with top
> > > sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday
> morning,
> > > putting it among the strongest Atlantic
> > hurricanes
> > > ever observed. Irma's winds are the most
> > powerful
> > > ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane north
> of
> > > the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of Mexico.
> > > Measurements from Hurricane Hunter aircraft
> > found
> > > peak winds of close to 180 mph, well above
> the
> > > 157-mph threshold for Category 5 strength. At
> > > 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye
> measured
> > a
> > > central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb lower
> > than
> > > the previous pass, so Irma is still
> > > strengthening.
> > >

> >
> >
> > Can't be true
> > 'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
> > Must be fake news
>
>
> As a trump supporter I can say this is fake news


As a libtard I can't count...

> > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > > record

5th is not "the biggest Atlantic hurricane on record"

Or is this like one of those everyone gets a trophy things where they're ALL the biggest and bestest of all!?

Stupid fuckers. lol

Probably think the hurricane is God's wrath for us not balancing the budget.

Libtards can't count Wrote:
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> Trump supporter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hold on Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic
> > > > hurricane ever recorded, after reaching an
> > > > intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg) in
> > > October
> > > > 2005.
> > > >
> > > > Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger" in
> > > this
> > > > case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1
> from
> > > the
> > > > below).
> > > >
> > > >

Quote

> > > > Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest
> > > Atlantic
> > > > Hurricane on Record
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017,
> > 10:13
> > > AM
> > > > EDT
> > > >
> > > > Hurricane Irma intensified into an
> extremely
> > > > dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with
> top
> > > > sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday
> > morning,
> > > > putting it among the strongest Atlantic
> > > hurricanes
> > > > ever observed. Irma's winds are the most
> > > powerful
> > > > ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane
> north
> > of
> > > > the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of
> Mexico.
> > > > Measurements from Hurricane Hunter aircraft
> > > found
> > > > peak winds of close to 180 mph, well above
> > the
> > > > 157-mph threshold for Category 5 strength.
> At
> > > > 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye
> > measured
> > > a
> > > > central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb
> lower
> > > than
> > > > the previous pass, so Irma is still
> > > > strengthening.
> > > >

> > >
> > >
> > > Can't be true
> > > 'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
> > > Must be fake news
> >
> >
> > As a trump supporter I can say this is fake
> news
>
>
> As a libtard I can't count...
>
> > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic hurricane
> on
> > > > > record
>
> 5th is not "the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> record"
>
> Or is this like one of those everyone gets a
> trophy things where they're ALL the biggest and
> bestest of all!?
>
> Stupid fuckers. lol


So you can get me on strongest / biggest

According to the NWS, Irma is the strongest storm ever in the Atlantic (not counting those that reached the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico). And it’s not far off from the all-time record hurricane wind speed of 190 mph.

Trumptardz! LOLZ!!! Wrote:
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> Probably think the hurricane is God's wrath for us
> not balancing the budget.


It's about as logical as thinking it is because of some stupid Church of Al Gore belief.

We'll just have to wait and see how Irma turns out. But I'm thinkin' she's gonna become the new poster girl for climate change.

Trumptardz! LOLZ!!! Wrote:
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> We'll just have to wait and see how Irma turns
> out. But I'm thinkin' she's gonna become the new
> poster girl for climate change.


OF course you think that. You're retarded.

that Irma won't be a major hurricane. So noted.

kjbw Wrote:
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> > Trump supporter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hold on Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Hurricane Wilma is the strongest Atlantic
> > > > > hurricane ever recorded, after reaching
> an
> > > > > intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg)
> in
> > > > October
> > > > > 2005.
> > > > >
> > > > > Irma's highest (or lowest being "bigger"
> in
> > > > this
> > > > > case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > below).
> > > > >
> > > > >

Quote

> > > > > Category 5 Irma the 5th Strongest
> > > > Atlantic
> > > > > Hurricane on Record
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5, 2017,
> > > 10:13
> > > > AM
> > > > > EDT
> > > > >
> > > > > Hurricane Irma intensified into an
> > extremely
> > > > > dangerous high-end Category 5 storm with
> > top
> > > > > sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday
> > > morning,
> > > > > putting it among the strongest Atlantic
> > > > hurricanes
> > > > > ever observed. Irma's winds are the most
> > > > powerful
> > > > > ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane
> > north
> > > of
> > > > > the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of
> > Mexico.
> > > > > Measurements from Hurricane Hunter
> aircraft
> > > > found
> > > > > peak winds of close to 180 mph, well
> above
> > > the
> > > > > 157-mph threshold for Category 5
> strength.
> > At
> > > > > 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye
> > > measured
> > > > a
> > > > > central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb
> > lower
> > > > than
> > > > > the previous pass, so Irma is still
> > > > > strengthening.
> > > > >

> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can't be true
> > > > 'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
> > > > Must be fake news
> > >
> > >
> > > As a trump supporter I can say this is fake
> > news
> >
> >
> > As a libtard I can't count...
> >
> > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> hurricane
> > on
> > > > > > record
> >
> > 5th is not "the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > record"
> >
> > Or is this like one of those everyone gets a
> > trophy things where they're ALL the biggest and
> > bestest of all!?
> >
> > Stupid fuckers. lol
>
>
> So you can get me on strongest / biggest
>
> According to the NWS, Irma is the strongest storm
> ever in the Atlantic (not counting those that
> reached the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico). And
> it’s not far off from the all-time record
> hurricane wind speed of 190 mph.


That's bullshit that you're getting from another libtard at Vox and also now parroted by other sensationalist media who don't understand what NWS is saying in its tweet and it's been presented in a misleading way.

What it actually said:

#Irma is the strongest #hurricane in the Atlantic basin outside of the Caribbean Sea & Gulf of Mexico in NHC records http://hurricanes.gov

https://twitter.com/NHC_Atlantic/status/905080927948349440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fscience-and-health%2F2017%2F9%2F5%2F16254872%2Fhurricane-irma-2017-caribbean-florida-keys-puerto-rico-wind-speed-record

Note no parens in the same way that Vox quoted it. NWS is saying that it's the strongest to *TRACK* outside of the area where stronger storms typically go at the same point. It is not saying that it is the strongest hurricane (stop) ("outside of" i.e., not counting some others) as Vox's parens implies.

And 'not far off' isn't the "biggest."

so our trumptards insist Wrote:
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> that Irma won't be a major hurricane. So noted.


Really? How did you reach that conclusion? Admit it, you do drugs. Lots of them.

Irma is another data point leading to that conclusion.

How Libtards Lie Wrote:
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> kjbw Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Libtards can't count Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Trump supporter Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Hold on Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Dr. Jeff Masters Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Hurricane Wilma is the strongest
> Atlantic
> > > > > > hurricane ever recorded, after reaching
> > an
> > > > > > intensity of 882 mbar (hPa; 26.05 inHg)
> > in
> > > > > October
> > > > > > 2005.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Irma's highest (or lowest being
> "bigger"
> > in
> > > > > this
> > > > > > case) measurement was 926 mb (dropped 1
> > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > below).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >

Quote

> > > > > > Category 5 Irma the 5th
> Strongest
> > > > > Atlantic
> > > > > > Hurricane on Record
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dr. Jeff Masters · September 5,
> 2017,
> > > > 10:13
> > > > > AM
> > > > > > EDT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hurricane Irma intensified into an
> > > extremely
> > > > > > dangerous high-end Category 5 storm
> with
> > > top
> > > > > > sustained winds of 180 mph on Tuesday
> > > > morning,
> > > > > > putting it among the strongest Atlantic
> > > > > hurricanes
> > > > > > ever observed. Irma's winds are the
> most
> > > > > powerful
> > > > > > ever measured in an Atlantic hurricane
> > > north
> > > > of
> > > > > > the Caribbean and east of the Gulf of
> > > Mexico.
> > > > > > Measurements from Hurricane Hunter
> > aircraft
> > > > > found
> > > > > > peak winds of close to 180 mph, well
> > above
> > > > the
> > > > > > 157-mph threshold for Category 5
> > strength.
> > > At
> > > > > > 11:07 am EDT, a dropsonde in Irma's eye
> > > > measured
> > > > > a
> > > > > > central pressure of 927 millibars, 4 mb
> > > lower
> > > > > than
> > > > > > the previous pass, so Irma is still
> > > > > > strengthening.
> > > > > >

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't be true
> > > > > 'Bigger' what' said it wasn't
> > > > > Must be fake news
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a trump supporter I can say this is fake
> > > news
> > >
> > >
> > > As a libtard I can't count...
> > >
> > > > > > > > Irma is the biggest Atlantic
> > hurricane
> > > on
> > > > > > > record
> > >
> > > 5th is not "the biggest Atlantic hurricane on
> > > record"
> > >
> > > Or is this like one of those everyone gets a
> > > trophy things where they're ALL the biggest
> and
> > > bestest of all!?
> > >
> > > Stupid fuckers. lol
> >
> >
> > So you can get me on strongest / biggest
> >
> > According to the NWS, Irma is the strongest
> storm
> > ever in the Atlantic (not counting those that
> > reached the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico). And
> > it’s not far off from the all-time record
> > hurricane wind speed of 190 mph.
>
>
> That's bullshit that you're getting from another
> libtard at Vox and also now parroted by other
> sensationalist media who don't understand what NWS
> is saying in its tweet and it's been presented in
> a misleading way.
>
> What it actually said:
>
> #Irma is the strongest #hurricane in the Atlantic
> basin outside of the Caribbean Sea & Gulf of
> Mexico in NHC records http://hurricanes.gov
>
> https://twitter.com/NHC_Atlantic/status/9050809279
> 48349440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2
> Fwww.vox.com%2Fscience-and-health%2F2017%2F9%2F5%2
> F16254872%2Fhurricane-irma-2017-caribbean-florida-
> keys-puerto-rico-wind-speed-record
>
> Note no parens in the same way that Vox quoted it.
> NWS is saying that it's the strongest to *TRACK*
> outside of the area where stronger storms
> typically go at the same point. It is not saying
> that it is the strongest hurricane (stop)
> ("outside of" i.e., not counting some others) as
> Vox's parens implies.
>
> And 'not far off' isn't the "biggest."


I stand corrected
Good pick up
I was incorrect
And I am the one who posted that

severe hurricanes ARE increasing Wrote:
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> Irma is another data point leading to that
> conclusion.


No. Sorry.

Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
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> severe hurricanes ARE increasing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Irma is another data point leading to that
> > conclusion.
>
>
> No. Sorry.


Can you back that up?

Fdzfdzt Wrote:
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> Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > severe hurricanes ARE increasing Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Irma is another data point leading to that
> > > conclusion.
> >
> >
> > No. Sorry.
>
>
> Can you back that up?

Sure thing. Back up the assertion severe hurricanes are increasing first.

Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
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>
>
> Sure thing. Back up the assertion severe
> hurricanes are increasing first.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_intense_tropical_cyclones#Atlantic_Ocean

There isnt even a hurricane at the moment this is FAKE NEWS!!! Has Alex Jones or Trump told us there is a hurricane coming? Nope. FAKE NEWS!!!!


So why trust the made-up images on the TEEEVEE? Its all fake. Nice colors though. Suckers. Science is both a short and long con.

Libtards!!!

comeonman Wrote:
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> There isnt even a hurricane at the moment this is
> FAKE NEWS!!! Has Alex Jones or Trump told us there
> is a hurricane coming? Nope. FAKE NEWS!!!!
>
>
> So why trust the made-up images on the TEEEVEE?
> Its all fake. Nice colors though. Suckers.
> Science is both a short and long con.
>
> Libtards!!!


Thanks
I was almost sucked in by the liberal press and fake science
Please let us know when mr jones decides

DONE. Wrote:
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> Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Sure thing. Back up the assertion severe
> > hurricanes are increasing first.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_int
> ense_tropical_cyclones#Atlantic_Ocean


You think that backs up your assertion?

I looked at the eclipse Wrote:
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> comeonman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There isnt even a hurricane at the moment this
> is
> > FAKE NEWS!!! Has Alex Jones or Trump told us
> there
> > is a hurricane coming? Nope. FAKE NEWS!!!!
> >
> >
> > So why trust the made-up images on the TEEEVEE?
>
> > Its all fake. Nice colors though. Suckers.
> > Science is both a short and long con.
> >
> > Libtards!!!
>
>
> Thanks
> I was almost sucked in by the liberal press and
> fake science
> Please let us know when mr jones decides

Not sure but I think Alex Jones is infact predicting some weather - that or just bad feelings from LIBTARDS!!!!

Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
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>
>
> You think that backs up your assertion?\



I'm sorry the data contained so many numbers.

Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
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> DONE. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > >
> > > Sure thing. Back up the assertion severe
> > > hurricanes are increasing first.
> >
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_int
>
> > ense_tropical_cyclones#Atlantic_Ocean
>
>
> You think that backs up your assertion?


It's pointless
Only god knows

God knows it's manmade global warming! LOL!

yes indeedy..... Wrote:
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> Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > You think that backs up your assertion?\
>
>
>
> I'm sorry the data contained so many numbers.

It actually didn't. Which is why you failed.

Irma would be an unprecedented Category 10 already!

if there were global warming Wrote:
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> Irma would be an unprecedented Category 10
> already!


Just saw that it is now cat 11

At 900, it will start sucking marine life out of the ocean, and could cause a Sharknado!

yes indeedy..... Wrote:
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> Nope. Sorry. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > You think that backs up your assertion?\
>
>
>
> I'm sorry the data contained so many numbers.


I'm sorry that you don't understand them.


"Cuba" 1924 270 km/h (165 mph) 910 hPa (26.87 inHg)
"Bahamas" 1929 250 km/h (155 mph) 924 hPa (27.29 inHg)
"Cuba" 1932 280 km/h (175 mph) 915 hPa (27.02 inHg)
"Labor Day" 1935 295 km/h (185 mph) 892 hPa (26.34 inHg)
Janet 1955 280 km/h (175 mph) 914 hPa (26.99 inHg)
Hattie 1961 260 km/h (160 mph) 920 hPa (27.17 inHg)
Camille 1969 280 km/h (175 mph) 900 hPa (26.58 inHg)
David 1979 280 km/h (175 mph) 924 hPa (27.29 inHg)
Allen 1980 305 km/h (190 mph) 899 hPa (26.55 inHg)
Gloria 1985 230 km/h (145 mph) 919 hPa (27.14 inHg)
Gilbert 1988 295 km/h (185 mph) 888 hPa (26.22 inHg)
Hugo 1989 260 km/h (160 mph) 918 hPa (27.11 inHg)
Andrew 1992 280 km/h (175 mph) 922 hPa (27.23 inHg)
Opal 1995 240 km/h (150 mph) 916 hPa (27.05 inHg)
Mitch 1998 285 km/h (180 mph) 905 hPa (26.72 inHg)
Floyd 1999 250 km/h (155 mph) 921 hPa (27.20 inHg)
Isabel 2003 270 km/h (165 mph) 915 hPa (27.02 inHg)
Ivan 2004 270 km/h (165 mph) 910 hPa (26.87 inHg)
Katrina 2005 280 km/h (175 mph) 902 hPa (26.64 inHg)
Rita 2005 285 km/h (180 mph) 895 hPa (26.43 inHg)
Wilma 2005 295 km/h (185 mph) 882 hPa (26.05 inHg)
Dean 2007 280 km/h (175 mph) 905 hPa (26.72 inHg)
Igor 2010 250 km/h (155 mph) 924 hPa (27.29 inHg)
Irma 2017 295 km/h (185 mph) 916 hPa (27.05 inHg)

I wonder where Irma will stand when she hits Florida. She is still strengthening, so we'll see. Do note that the frequency of badass storms IS increasing.

nice data Wrote:
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> I wonder where Irma will stand when she hits
> Florida. She is still strengthening, so we'll see.
> Do note that the frequency of badass storms IS
> increasing.


The frequency is not increasing. In fact it has decreased. As far as power, it's mostly that we just have better measurement capabilities now since about the 1980s. Going back, the decades of the late-1800s and 1930s were worse than now. And most of those measurements were taken upon landfall not when at peak force as we now do using sats and other remote measurement.

Wayback Machine Wrote:
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> nice data Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder where Irma will stand when she hits
> > Florida. She is still strengthening, so we'll
> see.
> > Do note that the frequency of badass storms IS
> > increasing.
>
>
> The frequency is not increasing. In fact it has
> decreased. As far as power, it's mostly that we
> just have better measurement capabilities now
> since about the 1980s. Going back, the decades of
> the late-1800s and 1930s were worse than now. And
> most of those measurements were taken upon
> landfall not when at peak force as we now do using
> sats and other remote measurement.


Storms or hurricanes or typhoons

So we all get to be right if we use different words
But we all loose because no one learns or sees the other dide

Ngjyv Wrote:
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> Wayback Machine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > nice data Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I wonder where Irma will stand when she hits
> > > Florida. She is still strengthening, so we'll
> > see.
> > > Do note that the frequency of badass storms
> IS
> > > increasing.
> >
> >
> > The frequency is not increasing. In fact it
> has
> > decreased. As far as power, it's mostly that
> we
> > just have better measurement capabilities now
> > since about the 1980s. Going back, the decades
> of
> > the late-1800s and 1930s were worse than now.
> And
> > most of those measurements were taken upon
> > landfall not when at peak force as we now do
> using
> > sats and other remote measurement.
>
>
> Storms or hurricanes or typhoons
>
> So we all get to be right if we use different
> words
> But we all loose because no one learns or sees the
> other dide


Tropical cyclones/hurricanes is the most used measure since that's the larger indicator. But doesn't make much difference in how you count. About the only way that it comes out as being more frequent now is only looking at North Atlantic hurricanes since about the mid-80s. Which is why it gets cherry-picked for talking points. Virtually all other ways will show fewer.

wake-up call Wrote:
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> And cue an angry right-wing response in
> 3..2...1.....

Wayback Machine Wrote:
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> Ngjyv Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wayback Machine Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > nice data Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I wonder where Irma will stand when she
> hits
> > > > Florida. She is still strengthening, so
> we'll
> > > see.
> > > > Do note that the frequency of badass storms
> > IS
> > > > increasing.
> > >
> > >
> > > The frequency is not increasing. In fact it
> > has
> > > decreased. As far as power, it's mostly that
> > we
> > > just have better measurement capabilities now
> > > since about the 1980s. Going back, the
> decades
> > of
> > > the late-1800s and 1930s were worse than now.
>
> > And
> > > most of those measurements were taken upon
> > > landfall not when at peak force as we now do
> > using
> > > sats and other remote measurement.
> >
> >
> > Storms or hurricanes or typhoons
> >
> > So we all get to be right if we use different
> > words
> > But we all loose because no one learns or sees
> the
> > other dide
>
>
> Tropical cyclones/hurricanes is the most used
> measure since that's the larger indicator. But
> doesn't make much difference in how you count.
> About the only way that it comes out as being more
> frequent now is only looking at North Atlantic
> hurricanes since about the mid-80s. Which is why
> it gets cherry-picked for talking points.
> Virtually all other ways will show fewer.

Good post
But you do give any backup

5 Hurricanes with in 3 weeks. Humm... Guess that's what happens when you fire up coal burning plants.

Need more Wrote:
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> Wayback Machine Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ngjyv Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Wayback Machine Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > nice data Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > I wonder where Irma will stand when she
> > hits
> > > > > Florida. She is still strengthening, so
> > we'll
> > > > see.
> > > > > Do note that the frequency of badass
> storms
> > > IS
> > > > > increasing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The frequency is not increasing. In fact
> it
> > > has
> > > > decreased. As far as power, it's mostly
> that
> > > we
> > > > just have better measurement capabilities
> now
> > > > since about the 1980s. Going back, the
> > decades
> > > of
> > > > the late-1800s and 1930s were worse than
> now.
> >
> > > And
> > > > most of those measurements were taken upon
> > > > landfall not when at peak force as we now
> do
> > > using
> > > > sats and other remote measurement.
> > >
> > >
> > > Storms or hurricanes or typhoons
> > >
> > > So we all get to be right if we use different
> > > words
> > > But we all loose because no one learns or
> sees
> > the
> > > other dide
> >
> >
> > Tropical cyclones/hurricanes is the most used
> > measure since that's the larger indicator. But
> > doesn't make much difference in how you count.
> > About the only way that it comes out as being
> more
> > frequent now is only looking at North Atlantic
> > hurricanes since about the mid-80s. Which is
> why
> > it gets cherry-picked for talking points.
> > Virtually all other ways will show fewer.
>
> Good post
> But you do give any backup





No significant change in numbers over a longer period of time. And, as I said, you can see why they like to start at 1980 since that was a low point and from there it's easy to show an increase. Mostly because 2005 was an exceptionally busy year, then falls off again for the last 10-12 years.

We're getting more, more and MORE hurricanes!

A cat 5 hurricane, AND two tropical storms, one of which is about to BE a hurricane.
Global. Fucking. Warming

Alex Jones says no global warming and something about gay frogs. Everyone citing 'science' is LIBTARD!!!!

Do yourself a favor and follow Mr. Jones so you dont look stupid.

^ Says the gender studiestard who can't respond to any of the science and posts this kind of shit.

lol

Michelle Bachmann said hurricanes were God's wrath becuase we wouldn't balance the budget.

Go with that. lol

all that math, and logic!

trumptardz hate science Wrote:
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> all that math, and logic!


They're the only ones who have posted any in this thread.

You just post this kind of bullshit. lol

that hurricanes don't exist?

And that people sensationalize them and incorrectly attribute them to climate change. Which they obviously do and is what he actually said.

We believe you - hurricanes really aren't all that bad, and they aren't caused by 'global warming'. Okay? All better now?

ice age a cometh Wrote:
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> Just so the "Global Warming" idiots know - It was
> just a few decades ago that the Scientists were
> "97% consensus" on how a NEW ICE AGE and GLOBAL
> COOLING was inevitable.


^THIS

Point is that no one really knows. Having scientists say that a new ice-age was right around the corner a few decades ago kind puts the brakes on the whole "warming" thing.

The environment has always fluctuated and will continue to do so.

Also, WE could never kill the planet, it will always be fine. WE could kill ourselves in 10,000 years sure. The planet would shake us off like fleas and warm or cool as it sees fit.

Bottom line is simple - try to pollute the environment as little as possible and recycle whatever you can.

and we have an ice age Wrote:
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> ice age a cometh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just so the "Global Warming" idiots know - It
> was
> > just a few decades ago that the Scientists were
> > "97% consensus" on how a NEW ICE AGE and GLOBAL
> > COOLING was inevitable.
>
>
> ^THIS
>
> Point is that no one really knows. Having
> scientists say that a new ice-age was right around
> the corner a few decades ago kind puts the brakes
> on the whole "warming" thing.
>
> The environment has always fluctuated and will
> continue to do so.
>
> Also, WE could never kill the planet, it will
> always be fine. WE could kill ourselves in 10,000
> years sure. The planet would shake us off like
> fleas and warm or cool as it sees fit.
>
> Bottom line is simple - try to pollute the
> environment as little as possible and recycle
> whatever you can.

Shows you how much we have altered the climate

Was there actually a '97%' consensus on that?

I recall the 'ice age' theory Wrote:
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> Was there actually a '97%' consensus on that?


It was the conventional wisdom at the time.

The "97% consensus" now is bullshit to begin with. And whatever "consensus" exists diminishes greatly by the time that you get from whether temperatures are changing to whether that's a direct result of anthropogenic CO2 and what that means going forward as far as timing and magnitude of any change. And another huge step by the time that you get to what should be done about it. And a completely disconnected step by the time that you get to the level of mitigation which is nearly entirely political and centers on a money grab by lesser developed countries at the UN for US money.

If this shit is anthropogenic, they're causing more of the problem than we are.
We need all of our cash to move our cities a bit further back from the coast.
So, at some point, I make tell you to buy a prius, but I don't expect you to buy one for Ravi, Abdul, or jose. They can buy their own.

global warming strikes again!

ruh-roh! Three hurricanes! Wrote:
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> global warming strikes again!

I thinks those bars are gonna be gettin' a lot higher....

old stats..... Wrote:
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> I thinks those bars are gonna be gettin' a lot
> higher....


No, they probably won't because they already include past seasons with as much or more activity.

Aggregating Aggregator Wrote:
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> old stats..... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I thinks those bars are gonna be gettin' a lot
> > higher....
>
>
> No, they probably won't because they already
> include past seasons with as much or more
> activity SO FAR.

Truth isn't a majority vote Wrote:
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> I recall the 'ice age' theory Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was there actually a '97%' consensus on that?
>
>
> It was the conventional wisdom at the time.
>
> The "97% consensus" now is bullshit to begin with.
> And whatever "consensus" exists diminishes
> greatly by the time that you get from whether
> temperatures are changing to whether that's a
> direct result of anthropogenic CO2 and what that
> means going forward as far as timing and magnitude
> of any change. And another huge step by the time
> that you get to what should be done about it. And
> a completely disconnected step by the time that
> you get to the level of mitigation which is nearly
> entirely political and centers on a money grab by
> lesser developed countries at the UN for US money.


TRUE

I posted the ice age shit. There was no numerical consensus that I am aware of, I just plugged in the "97%" thing to fuck with the global warming nuts.

Also, the above post is SPOT ON with the $$$ grab by lesser countries through the UN and the Paris Accord(name?).

Our POTUS, fuck whoever he or she is, made a great decision to save us billions getting out of that circle jerk.

My point was - WE DO NOT KNOW HOW WE ARE AFFECTING THE ENVIRONMENT - proven scientifically by how much our scientists do not know.

iceage to the icecaps melting is a big difference