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US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 15, 2017 09:03AM

US spy agencies admitted today that they secretly listened in and recorded telephone conversations of the staff of Republican Presidential candidates and then leaked the information to US news media and Democrat Party operatives in an attempt to influence the US elections.

In a desperate attempt to discredit Trump and win the election for Hillary the NSA, FBI and other Obama-controlled agencies conducted a secret operation attempting to find dirt on Trump and ensure a Democrat victory in 2016. They admit they operated under the pretext of investigating national security concerns while continually leaking the information to the press.

Concerns continue to grow that the dark agencies are really the people controlling our government and not elected officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0

Oh, and The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: NJ6ce ()
Date: February 15, 2017 10:02AM

That sure is one way to spin the story. Only goes to show how the take on a story can be manipulated.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: wdyYy ()
Date: February 15, 2017 10:06AM

Who ordered them to spy on Americans? Is that legal?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 15, 2017 10:09AM

Rogue.

On pretext of national security.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 15, 2017 10:10AM

Unelected.

Answerable to no one.

Banana Republic.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 15, 2017 11:58AM

This is what needs to be investigated:

The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

What techniques and methods did the "intelligence agencies" use to surveil the Trump campaign? Who authorized this? Did they leak their findings to the media or Trump opponents? Was this really a legitimate concern or a political witchunt?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Editor Smith ()
Date: February 15, 2017 03:34PM

Thread title should be:

US Intelligence agencies surveil potential Russian Mole

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Np6hv ()
Date: February 15, 2017 07:24PM

In fact, as this article points out - Obama specifically issued new rules regarding NSA spying on Americans in order to make it easier for Obamabots in the spy agencies to carry out their coup against the new government. It's an attempted coup folks. Plain and simple.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Black Slops ()
Date: February 15, 2017 07:49PM

Obama's shadow Govt. will go to jail for treason.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: thanksobama ()
Date: February 15, 2017 07:57PM

good thing they did - look what they are up to - using encrypted phones to negotiate against a sitting President Obama in secret. That doesnt even consider the fact the Russians definitely were spying, hacking against the Democrats and promoting Trump.

Thanks for having our back President Obama

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Ben Rhodes ()
Date: February 15, 2017 08:13PM

thanksobama Wrote:
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> good thing they did - look what they are up to -
> using encrypted phones to negotiate against a
> sitting President Obama in secret. That doesnt
> even consider the fact the Russians definitely
> were spying, hacking against the Democrats and
> promoting Trump.
>
> Thanks for having our back President Obama


Domestic spying. Fuck yeah!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: 844499999999999999 ()
Date: February 16, 2017 12:36AM

tHAT IS WHERE THE CURRENT LEAKS ARE COMING FROM, OBAMAO'S PALS STILL IN THE AGENCIES

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Leakers are fucked ()
Date: February 16, 2017 12:38AM

"......one of those circumstances includes leaking the contents of intercepted communications, as defined this way by 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code:

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates … or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes … any classified information … obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 16, 2017 12:44PM

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/15/exclusive-how-the-nations-spooks-played-the-game-kill-mike-flynn/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443768/obama-fisa-trump-wiretap

Wow. Great details on how the attempt to influence the US Election by the spooks was done.

The first [FISA] request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October

Basically this means as far back as June 2016 the Obama administration was secretly recording Trumps communication's. This is a bombshell. BOMBSHELL.

This is diabolically evil and dangerous stuff. Domestic spying for political purposes. Banana Republic.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: An Amazing Coincidence! ()
Date: February 16, 2017 01:11PM

The Real Reporter Wrote:
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> Rogue.
>
> On pretext of national security.

The targets of these rogue wiretaps just so happened to be calling and talking to Russian intelligence agents. That's one heckuva coincidence!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 16, 2017 03:52PM

An Amazing Coincidence! Wrote:
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> The Real Reporter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rogue.
> >
> > On pretext of national security.
>
> The targets of these rogue wiretaps just so
> happened to be calling and talking to Russian
> intelligence agents. That's one heckuva
> coincidence!

Dude. If they had any of the targets in an actual recorded conversation doing anything illegal - we would all know about it. Would have known about it months ago. They would have leaked it. They have leaked everything else. The fact that they have no evidence of anything is all you need to know.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Attach a File .... ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:34AM

http://nypost.com/2017/02/16/bogus-times-scoops-on-trump-russia-are-recycled-propaganda/

Hostile, hysterical reporting based on anonymous leaks provides no hard facts — just “narratives” that could come out of a creative writing class.

Take Wednesday’s breathless New York Times story, “Trump Aides Had Contact With Russian Intelligence” — which was remarkable for containing the same facts the Times reported back in October as “Investigating Donald Trump, FBI Sees No Clear Link to Russia.”

Both reports say various Trumpites talked to figures in Russia’s government — but that US investigators found nothing to show they’d discussed the US election, or that anyone on Team Trump was even aware of any effort by Moscow to influence it.

Oh, and the Times also reported Jan. 19, “Intercepted Russian Communiques Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates.”

How many times can the Times recycle the same stuff and still call it news?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:35AM

Trump wouldn't answer whether he knew if his campaign was having contacts with Russians. I noticed how he refused to give it a yes or no answer yesterday.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: John Podesta ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:46AM

Anyone who communicates with Russians is a criminal.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:50AM

Who are these peasants that support corruption and treason? Who are these fucking idiots?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: February 17, 2017 09:51AM

Republicans, what are these weird fucked up beings?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: WWIII ()
Date: February 17, 2017 10:16AM

Exactly why is the left trying so hard to reconstitute the COLD WAR. Why trying so hard to start WWIII? I mean they love Iran and Russia is a big supporter of Iran so it doesn't make sense.

"The 80's called and they want their foreign policy back."

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 17, 2017 10:36AM


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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 17, 2017 10:46AM

The struggle continues...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-16/civil-war-control-us-government-has-erupted-between-deep-state-and-donald-trump

And now that this “civil war” has begun, it is being reported that there are some within the intelligence community that are absolutely determined to destroy Donald Trump. In fact, one former NSA analyst says that he got a message from a friend still inside the intelligence community that stated that Trump “will die in jail” once this civil war is over…

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 17, 2017 10:48AM

^^^^
BTW, that is the real treason. These spooks are unelected. Whatever you think about Trump he was a fairly elected President of the USA.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: thrown to the wolves by Trump ()
Date: February 17, 2017 11:02AM

Sorry OP but communications with the Russians are all monitored. It doesnt matter if they are calling Domino's or a private citizen not yet appointed as head of the NSA. They listen to us we listen to them. Funny thing is Flynn tried to use an encrypted phone but we had the encryption. felon and loser General Flynn now disgraced and thrown to the wolves by Trump

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 17, 2017 01:23PM

thrown to the wolves by Trump Wrote:
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> Sorry OP but communications with the Russians are
> all monitored. It doesnt matter if they are
> calling Domino's or a private citizen not yet
> appointed as head of the NSA. They listen to us
> we listen to them.

Sure. That's why they were making FISA requests during the campaign.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: February 18, 2017 07:37PM

Finally someone asking the right questions.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445045/general-michael-flynn-national-security-adviser-fbi-investigation-phone-call-russian-ambassador

There appears to have been no foreign-intelligence or criminal-investigative purpose served by the FBI’s interrogation of General Flynn. It is easy to see why Democrats would want to portray Flynn’s contact with the Russian ambassador as worthy of an FBI investigation. But why did the FBI and the Justice Department investigate Flynn — and why did “officials” make sure the press found out about it?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 02:43PM

Finally starting to unravel. Need a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR NOW!!!
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 02:46PM

The stories currently are three-fold:

first, that Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent;

second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so,

third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-obama-could-be-prosecuted-if-involved-with-illegal-surveillance/

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: DdCKv ()
Date: March 05, 2017 02:54PM

No, the real 3-fold story is:

1) Obama and his administration are guilty once the evidence is released.

2) The Marx-0-Progs are liars.

3) The Fake News is just as fake and lying as always.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 02:57PM

In sum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0&feature=youtu.be

This is criminal activity and must be prosecuted NOW!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 02:59PM

Part two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFslXh-JWkM

These are the tactics of a POLICE STATE!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 05:52PM

Backpedaling begins:

Clapper was also asked on "Meet the Press" if he had any evidence that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government while the Kremlin was working to influence the election.

"Not to my knowledge," Clapper said, based on the information he had before his time in the position ended.

"We did not include anything in our report … that had any reflect of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that included in our report," he said. "We had no evidence of such collusion."


https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-accuses-obama-of-wire-tapping-in-october-1488637355

Strange though - he also says:

When Todd asked him whether he could confirm or deny if a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Act) order for this existed, Clapper declared, "I can deny it."

Asked again whether there was a FISA Court order to monitor Trump Tower, Clapper said, "Not to my knowledge."

Clapper said that if any wiretap like that occurred, he would "certainly hope" that he would be aware of it.

"I can't speak for other authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity," he added.


So was the Fake News Media lying are is Clapper lying? Or do we need a lawyer to parse through what he is denying. I suspect all three. He appears to be making a very narrowly constructed denial of the FISA order.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: what a dick ()
Date: March 05, 2017 06:06PM

Well at least we get to see what it would have been like if Obama had prosecuted all the scandals under Bush - a scandal presidency. Everywhere Donnie turns its a 'total disaster' 'worse than watergate' What a stupid pussy this guy is.

Learn to fucking govern instead of ranting like a cuck and playing golf in luxury every weekend. For fuck's sake he is supposed to be protecting us.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Do the Libtard Shuffle ()
Date: March 05, 2017 06:11PM

what a dick Wrote:
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> Well at least we get to see what it would have
> been like if Obama had prosecuted all the scandals
> under Bush - a scandal presidency. Everywhere
> Donnie turns its a 'total disaster' 'worse than
> watergate' What a stupid pussy this guy is.
>
> Learn to fucking govern instead of ranting like a
> cuck and playing golf in luxury every weekend.
> For fuck's sake he is supposed to be protecting
> us.


So are you saying that the FISA tapping happened and that there are recordings and transcripts of Russian collusion as lib media and Dems have been claiming for months or that there was no tapping and no evidence as they're now saying after Trump raised the rather obvious related question of, if so, then how and where the tapping was done? It's getting hard to keep track of the various directions that you're backpedalling in lately.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 08:41PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-03/trey-gowdy-r-sc-after-fbi-director-comey-briefing-be-very-very-careful-relying-nyt-a

Trey Gowdy (R-SC) After FBI Director Comey Briefing: "Be Very Very Careful" Relying On NYT and Washington Post For Leaked News

Based on Comey and Clapper's denials it is possible the media was being fed a false story?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: libs love fake news ()
Date: March 05, 2017 09:25PM

An Amazing Coincidence! Wrote:
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> The Real Reporter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rogue.
> >
> > On pretext of national security.
>
> The targets of these rogue wiretaps just so
> happened to be calling and talking to Russian
> intelligence agents. That's one heckuva
> coincidence!


you just love being lied to by your masters, don't you!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 05, 2017 09:28PM

Comes is pissed according to reports. He says Trump is a lying sack of shit. There is mutiny.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: 6xJFG ()
Date: March 05, 2017 09:30PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Comes is pissed according to reports. He says
> Trump is a lying sack of shit. There is mutiny.


So you're saying all of the bullshit about secret sources, and FISA, and transcripts, and recordings was bullshit now huh?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 11:19PM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/05/deepstategate-obama-trump-surveillance-fisa-investigation-russia/

Democrats’ efforts to raise suspicions about alleged — and, thus far, imaginary — links between President Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government may have backfired spectacularly.

The spotlight is now on President Barack Obama and his administration’s alleged surveillance of the Trump campaign, as well as his aides’ reported efforts to spread damaging information about Trump throughout government agencies to facilitate later investigations and, possibly, leaks to the media.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 05, 2017 11:21PM


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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: #Obamagate ()
Date: March 05, 2017 11:23PM

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 06, 2017 12:55PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

... it cannot be glossed over that, at the very time it appears the Obama Justice Department was seeking to surveil Trump and/or his associates on the pretext that they were Russian agents, the Obama Justice Department was also actively undermining and ultimately closing without charges the criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton despite significant evidence of felony misconduct that threatened national security.

This appears to be extraordinary, politically motivated abuse of presidential power.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: KKKillary KKKlinton. ()
Date: March 06, 2017 01:31PM

And Comey continues to defend Obama. Sessions is going to have a field day with this. Obama is in deep shit.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Obama is pathetic ()
Date: March 07, 2017 08:36AM

All this spying from Obama on US citizens and not one piece of evidence.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: cN4ct ()
Date: March 07, 2017 11:19AM

So now there was no surveillance and no agencies were involved in investigating a political opponent? Strange indeed.
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Thanks in advance. ()
Date: March 07, 2017 11:22AM

To all the Deep-State idiots who think Obama still controls the CIA and FBI please tell me why they let Comey bump Hillary's polling numbers down a critical 5% just before the election.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 07, 2017 11:27AM

The Russians were wiretapped, Trumps aides just happened to be traitors communicating with Russians that were wiretapped.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 07, 2017 11:27AM

Trump knows whats up. He is the president. Why is he hiding like a bitch after talking shit?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: hJcLM ()
Date: March 07, 2017 11:33AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Trump knows whats up. He is the president. Why
> is he hiding like a bitch after talking shit?


I dont think we should let this one slide like we did the inaugration crowd and millions of fraudulent voters. We should make him come up with his source in person.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 07, 2017 12:59PM

Thanks in advance. Wrote:
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> To all the Deep-State idiots who think Obama still
> controls the CIA and FBI please tell me why they
> let Comey bump Hillary's polling numbers down a
> critical 5% just before the election.

Methinks Comey is going DOWN! And soon.
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 07, 2017 01:05PM

See you in court!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Goatfuckerer2 ()
Date: March 07, 2017 01:16PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> See you in court!

When are you going to court refugee?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: vmvCk ()
Date: March 07, 2017 03:25PM

Unbelievable. The FBI retained the services of a two-bit political hack to conduct an investigation on the government's behalf????!!!!! WTF?!

And people think Trump is an amateur...

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 10, 2017 11:59AM


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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 22, 2017 12:01PM

The White House acknowledged Tuesday there are people working in the government who are likely part of what has been called the "deep state" – an inner core of Obama loyalists seeking to stop the Trump presidency.

During Tuesday's White House press briefing, Newsmax's John Gizzi asked White House press secretary Sean Spicer about David Horowitz's new book "Big Agenda" and claims Horowitz has made that a "deep state" has been seeking to undermine President Trump.

"This has been widely repeated on social media: Does the president himself believe in this deep state?" Gizzi asked.

Spicer replied: "I've been asked this question before, and I'll give you the same answer I've given before. This has been going on since the country came to be, where people burrow in after an administration into a civil servant job."
He added, ominously, "But, sure, there are people after eight years of Obama that found their way into government, so it should be no huge secret."

Last week, Trump confidant and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich also said the deep state is real.

"Of course, the deep state exists," Gingrich said. "There's a permanent state of massive bureaucracies that do whatever they want and set up deliberate leaks to attack the president.

"This is what the deep state does: They create a lie, spread a lie, fail to check the lie, and then deny that they were behind the lie."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/White-House-deep-state-trump-obama/2017/03/21/id/780036/

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Little hands ()
Date: March 22, 2017 12:06PM

The Real Reporter Wrote:
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> The White House acknowledged Tuesday there are
> people working in the government who are likely
> part of what has been called the "deep state" –
> an inner core of Obama loyalists seeking to stop
> the Trump presidency.
>
> During Tuesday's White House press briefing,
> Newsmax's John Gizzi asked White House press
> secretary Sean Spicer about David Horowitz's new
> book "Big Agenda" and claims Horowitz has made
> that a "deep state" has been seeking to undermine
> President Trump.
>
> "This has been widely repeated on social media:
> Does the president himself believe in this deep
> state?" Gizzi asked.
>
> Spicer replied: "I've been asked this question
> before, and I'll give you the same answer I've
> given before. This has been going on since the
> country came to be, where people burrow in after
> an administration into a civil servant job."
> He added, ominously, "But, sure, there are people
> after eight years of Obama that found their way
> into government, so it should be no huge secret."
>
> Last week, Trump confidant and former House
> Speaker Newt Gingrich also said the deep state is
> real.
>
> "Of course, the deep state exists," Gingrich said.
> "There's a permanent state of massive
> bureaucracies that do whatever they want and set
> up deliberate leaks to attack the president.
>
> "This is what the deep state does: They create
> a lie, spread a lie, fail to check the lie, and
> then deny that they were behind the lie."

>
> http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/White-House-deep-s
> tate-trump-obama/2017/03/21/id/780036/


Trump lies all the time so is he THE deep state?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Hot or not? ()
Date: March 22, 2017 12:37PM

Wait... I thought there was no surveillance?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 22, 2017 03:26PM

Comey and the Deep State Spooks are liars. They have been dissembling and being disingenuous and lawyerly with their testimony.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-22/nunes-says-trump-team-communications-caught-in-u-s-surveillance

House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes said Wednesday that the U.S. intelligence community collected multiple conversations involving members of Donald Trump’s transition team after he won the election last year.

The disclosure may bolster Trump’s effort to back up his disputed claim in Twitter postings that former President Barack Obama tapped his phones, which his spokesman later said shouldn’t be taken literally and referred generally to having his team under surveillance.

IT'S NOT OK FOR SPOOKS AND POLITICIANS TO USE OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES TO UNDERMINE AND CONSPIRE AGAINST THE DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE THE RULE OF LAW FOR A REASON.

LAWLESS OBAMA AND HIS HACKS MUST BE BROUGHT DOWN!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 22, 2017 03:30PM

Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.

Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community.

Nunes said his new information appears to show that additional members of the Trump transition team — beyond former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — were unmasked. This means they were identified in U.S. intelligence reports.

He said the information that he had seen and was disseminated across the intelligence community appeared to him to have "little or no apparent intelligence value."


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

UGLY. COMEY MUST BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Deeper ()
Date: March 22, 2017 03:44PM

Comey helped Trump win so how is he part of the deep state?

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:47PM

Deeper Wrote:
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> Comey helped Trump win so how is he part of the
> deep state?

You mean like when he let Hillary off the hook?

Saying, "Although there is evidence of ...violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."

Yeah, by not prosecuting Hillary he helped Trump win. Sure.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: No Evidence ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:50PM

A republican said "It's possible that an intelligence agency accidentally captured some communications from Trump."

What a laugh. Intelligence agencies have been capturing every Americans internet and cellphones since Bush gave them the right to spy on all Americans. It's called Condor and Prism.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Jfuyf ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:51PM

The Real Reporter Wrote:
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> Deeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Comey helped Trump win so how is he part of the
> > deep state?
>
> You mean like when he let Hillary off the hook?
>
> Saying, "Although there is evidence of
> ...violations of the statutes regarding the
> handling of classified information, our judgment
> is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such
> a case."
>
> Yeah, by not prosecuting Hillary he helped Trump
> win. Sure.


He said this in public - no reason to
He brought it up again just before the election
He didn't bring up team trump was under investigation

Get it now

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Loled ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:52PM

Deeper Wrote:
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> Comey helped Trump win so how is he part of the
> deep state?

"deep state" Love all these tinfoil republican conspiracies.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Trump Tweets ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:53PM

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: jTnnM ()
Date: March 22, 2017 04:55PM

Loled Wrote:
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> Deeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Comey helped Trump win so how is he part of the
> > deep state?
>
> "deep state" Love all these tinfoil republican
> conspiracies.


So who unmasked the names?

There are only a few people who can do that.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: X77Lu ()
Date: March 22, 2017 05:07PM

No Evidence Wrote:
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> A republican said "It's possible that an
> intelligence agency accidentally captured some
> communications from Trump."
>
> What a laugh. Intelligence agencies have been
> capturing every Americans internet and cellphones
> since Bush gave them the right to spy on all
> Americans. It's called Condor and Prism.

This is why none of the data-collection and surveillance should ever be allowed. We are trusting the government and the spooks themselves to be honest players and subject to the rule of law. Now they show themselves to be political hacks and dishonest usurpers. Do away with these spy programs. Repeal the laws. Take away the spooks toys. We can't trust them.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: True the Vote! ()
Date: March 22, 2017 09:23PM

Nice shot.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Republicans wanted it so........ ()
Date: March 22, 2017 09:28PM

True the Vote! Wrote:
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> Nice shot.
In your face, faggot.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 23, 2017 09:31PM

And here it comes...
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/intelligence-reports-reveal-improper-political-surveillance-trump-transition-team/

House intelligence committee investigation took a dramatic shift this week after newly disclosed intelligence reports suggested the Obama administration improperly gathered and disseminated secret electronic communications from President Trump and his transition team prior to inauguration.

The explosive reports uncovered by Nunes contradict public testimony Monday by FBI Director James Comey and National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 23, 2017 09:36PM

But wait... there's more...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week...

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.


Should point out that these "foreign targets" had NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA. These spooks knew what foreign contacts (non-Russian) Trump and his staff were calling and then monitored their conversations under the guise of normal foreign entity surveillance. Police state stuff.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 23, 2017 09:38PM

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/woodward-obama-officials-possibly-facing-criminal-charges/article/2618185

The Washington Post's Bob Woodward warned on Wednesday that there are people from the Obama administration who could be facing criminal charges for unmasking the names of Trump transition team members from surveillance of foreign officials.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 23, 2017 09:57PM

Settle down traitors. Trump is going to jail for treason, that's been confirmed now. Just a matter of when.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: March 24, 2017 07:20AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Settle down traitors. Trump is going to jail for
> treason, that's been confirmed now. Just a matter
> of when.


Okay...you're back in my good graces, GerBear.

That literally made me laugh out loud.

Gerrymanderer2, the gift that keeps on giving.
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 28, 2017 09:53PM

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense in the Obama Administration admits that Trump was spied on and that they tried to hide both the source and how the information was being disseminated to "the hill."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gapRNpEjXUo

The hubris is amazing.

I was urging my former colleagues, and, and frankly speaking the people on the Hill [Democrat politicians], it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can – get as much intelligence as you can – before President Obama leaves the administration.

Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior [Obama] people who left; so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, um, that the Trump folks – if they found out HOW we knew what we knew about their, the Trump staff, dealing with Russians – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods; meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence.

So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia; so then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were also trying to help get information to [Democrat politicians].


Now folks - that's how a police state works.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 28, 2017 10:03PM

Evelyn Farkas is also a senior fellow of the Atlantic Council - the Atlantic Council is funded in part by the US State Department, NATO, the governments of Latvia and Lithuania, the Ukrainian World Congress, and the Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk. The Atlantic Council has been among the loudest voices calling for a new Cold War with Russia.

And guess who else is a senior fellow of the Atlantic Council? Dimitri Alperovitch – the founder and CTO of CrowdStrike! Alperovitch is head honcho of the Atlantic Council’s “Cyber Statecraft Initiative”.

CrowdStrike, aka Dimitri Alperovitch was the organization that initially claimed they had evidence the Russians were connected to the Trump organization. A claim they have subsequently walked back:


http://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report/3781411.html

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/28/oh-my-president-obamas-own-defense-deputy-admits-obama-white-house-spied-on-candidatepresident-elect-trump/

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Ravi the Untouchable ()
Date: March 28, 2017 10:05PM

you trumptards think us mudpeople care about your laws?

suck my shit stained balls trumfucks

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 29, 2017 12:15PM

If you want to read a very detailed and reasonable non-Fake-News discourse of the current Russia Fake-News controversies – you won’t find a better read than this.

http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/the-russian-farce/#more-10024

Highlight:

The real scandal is probably not going to be Trump’s contacts with Russians. More likely, it will be the rogue work of a politically driven group of intelligence officers, embedded within the bureaucracy, who, either in freelancing mode, or in Henry II–Thomas Becket fashion (“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?”) with Obama-administration officials, began monitoring Team Trump — either directly or more likely through the excuse of inadvertently chancing upon conversations while monitoring supposedly suspicious foreign communications.

Added to this mess is the role of three unsympathetic characters who are on record as either not telling the truth, deliberately obfuscating it, or showing terrible judgement.

Obama CIA director John Brennan, who assumed that role after the still mysterious and abrupt post-election departure of David Petraeus, has a long history of political gymnastics; he has made many a necessary career readjustment to changing Washington politics. He is on record as being deceptive — he failed to reveal that the CIA intercepted Senate communications. He also stated falsely that the drone program had not resulted in a single collateral death. And, in the spirit of Obama’s new Islamic outreach, Brennan strangely suggested that jihad was a sort of personal odyssey rather than a call to use force in spreading Islamic influence. Brennan is also on record as critical of Trump: Trump “should be ashamed of himself,” Brennan said the day after the inauguration, in response to Trump’s speech to CIA staffers gathered in front of the Memorial Wall of Agency heroes.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has in the past lied to Congress, when he assured that the NSA did not monitor the communications of American citizens. Likewise, he bizarrely asserted that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was largely a secular organization. And more than 50 CENTCOM officers formally accused Clapper of distorting their reports about the Islamic State. Like Brennan, Clapper has been critical of Trump, asking, “Who benefits from a president-elect trashing the intelligence community?”

During the 2016 election, FBI Director James Comey popped up to assure the nation that while Hillary Clinton had conducted herself unethically, and probably in violation of federal statutes in using her private e-mail server for government business and wiping away correspondence, her transgressions did not rise to the level of indictable offenses. It was as if the investigator Comey, rather than the appropriate federal attorney, was adjudicating the decision to charge a suspect.

Then in the final stretch of the race, Comey resurfaced to assert that “new” evidence had led him to reconsider his exculpation of Clinton. And then, on November 6, 2016, just hours before the nation went to the polls, he appeared a third time in front of cameras to reiterate his original judgment that Hillary’s transgressions did not merit further investigation, much less criminal prosecutions. The media contextualized Comey’s schizophrenia as see-saw reactions either to liberal Obama-administration pressures or to near revolts among the more conservative FBI rank-and-file. Just as likely was Comey’s own neurotic itch to seek public attention and to position himself favorably with a likely new president.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: March 29, 2017 12:23PM

Fake news.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 29, 2017 12:35PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Fake news.


a) you didn't read it.
b) it's way beyond your intelligence level. Even if you did read it you don't have the mental capacity to understand it. It doesn't have any f-bombs, raging insults or childish taunts so you wouldn't get it.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Dick Bag Dems ()
Date: March 29, 2017 12:40PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Trump wouldn't answer whether he knew if his
> campaign was having contacts with Russians. I
> noticed how he refused to give it a yes or no
> answer yesterday.


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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 29, 2017 04:49PM

http://circa.com/politics/barack-obama-changed-how-nsa-intercepts-of-americans-like-donald-trump-could-be-shared

Dozens of times in 2016, those intelligence reports identified Americans who were directly intercepted talking to foreign sources or were the subject of conversations between two or more monitored foreign figures. Sometimes the Americans’ names were officially unmasked; other times they were so specifically described in the reports that their identities were readily discernible. Among those cleared to request and consume unmasked NSA-based intelligence reports about U.S. citizens were Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice, his CIA Director John Brennan and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

Simply put – this is a CRIME. Heads must roll.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 31, 2017 10:54AM

Good story here:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-devin-nunes-knows-1490914396

This will prove the Obama administration was using systematic spy information collected by our intelligence agencies to keep tabs on President-Elect Trump and his transition team. This is a CRIME.
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Just sayn ()
Date: March 31, 2017 11:01AM

The Real Reporter Wrote:
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> Good story here:
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-devin-nunes-know
> s-1490914396
>
> This will prove the Obama administration was using
> systematic spy information collected by our
> intelligence agencies to keep tabs on
> President-Elect Trump and his transition team.
> This is a CRIME.


General Flynn: "only a guilty person asks for immunity".

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: wk4tN ()
Date: March 31, 2017 12:34PM

Just sayin, I don’t think you read the part where the Obama administration was using spooks to spy on Trump regarding matters unrelated to Russia.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: March 31, 2017 04:12PM

Sounds like Clapper is the bad guy here...

1. The surveillance that led to the unmasking started way BEFORE Trump was the GOP nominee

2. The person who did the unmasking is very high up in the intelligence world and is not in the FBI

3. The people reported by the NY Times were not Nunes sources. They only helped him navigate the intelligence

4. Nunes was told about the unmasking of Trump’s team back in January BEFORE Trump’s tweet about Obama’s spying.

5. It took a while to coordinate Nunes seeing the intelligence reports in order to protect his source. They chose the White House because it was the only other location they could view the reporting without outing the source.

6. None of this has anything to do with Russia.


http://therightscoop.com/watch-new-blockbuster-report-appears-to-vindicate-devin-nunes-amid-scandalous-media-coverage/

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: UyJdU ()
Date: April 01, 2017 08:19AM

I'm tired of everyone just accepting the Dem/Media line that all these communications were obtained via “incidental collection”.

We do not know if all of this information is, in fact, incidental to the surveillance of a legitimate foreign national security target. We have been led to believe that the Flynn intercept was the result of legitimate surveillance of the Russian ambassador. However, what if that is not true? What if the information was acquired through surveillance of communications to and from Trump’s organization?

Further, what if they were monitoring foreign targets solely for the purpose of intercepting Trump and Trump associates communications? Is that legal? I.e. "we know who they are calling - so we will monitor that foreign person." That is what Farkas made it sound like they were doing. "We know who they are calling so we are listening in on those people."

Either way, it is stench.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: April 01, 2017 11:08AM

Stop defending treason you low lifes.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Treason? ()
Date: April 01, 2017 11:16AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Stop defending treason you low lifes.

If anyone should be locked up for treason, it's Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Donna Brazile and Barack Obama.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: April 01, 2017 11:23AM

Citizenry requires more than talk radio inspired reckless resentment.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2017 11:23AM by Gerrymanderer2.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: liar liar ass on fire ()
Date: April 01, 2017 11:28AM


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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: The Real Reporter ()
Date: April 02, 2017 06:51PM

Another nice summary here:
https://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2017/04/02/obama-spied-media-lied/

Once you wave away all the smoke created by our dishonest media, the story of this past week was pretty simple. The Trump-Russia-Conspiracy narrative is falling apart. The Obama-Spied-on-his-Political-Opposition narrative is coming together.

That the Obama Gang was using intelligence on Republicans to try to thwart a Trump administration from erasing Obama's legacy — that's a huge story, a scandal almost as big as the fact that Obama used the IRS to decimate the Tea Party movement. If there were even a single honest editor at the network news departments or CNN or the New York Times, this would end with some high-level Obama and Hillary cronies doing perp walks.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Lol@thelibtards ()
Date: April 02, 2017 07:01PM

liar liar ass on fire Wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6I2vuarUs


That was great!

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: #Obamagate ()
Date: April 02, 2017 09:31PM

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: April 02, 2017 09:33PM

Cernovich Media confirms? That sounds like a fucking Russian name you idiot.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: April 02, 2017 09:34PM

And who gives a fuck about traitors being unmasked. They're traitors.

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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Gerrytardin' ()
Date: April 02, 2017 09:41PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Cernovich Media confirms? That sounds like a
> fucking Russian name you idiot.
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Re: US spy agencies secretly surveil Republican Presidential candidate
Posted by: Obobo is going to jail ()
Date: April 02, 2017 10:00PM


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