http://loudounextra.washingtonpost.com/news/2008/dec/17/birds-seized-investigation-cock-fighting-lovettsvi/


Authorities in Loudoun County have seized about 500 chickens from two farms in the Lovettsville area suspected of being cockfighting operations and where roosters were found tethered, caged and with body parts amputated, according to county officials and court records.

On Sunday, Loudoun County Animal Care and Control officers seized more than 400 roosters and hens from a residence in the 38000 block of Sierra Lane. The next day, about 100 fowl were seized at a nearby property in the 12000 block of Berlin Turnpike after a tip that game birds were being fought on the property, according to officials and court records.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2008 06:25PM by ferfux.

Think about that next time you drive by a Popeye's or KFC or Chik-Fil-A or Chicken Out.

Or when you drive out to the eastern shore and see double trailer truckloads full of chickens going to be slaughtered.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2008 11:15PM by Bob.

I had a thread about that subject titled, "Where's the Justice?" comparing the difference between cock fighting and dog fighting. Dog fighting is a felony, but cock fighting which is a favorite of Hispanics is a misdemeamer. It is still cruelty to animals and guess what that thread has disappeared? Imagine that?

By the way Bob you haven't answered my PM's. You made reference to my posting "WAY" after the alleged time of the post I said I didn't post under the Western Express thread. Once again you are wrong, double check it again, you must need glasses as you age or you're getting blind. Or, you just lie like a rug, which I tend to believe...Elliot! Get a life and stop messing with mine you low life fag.

You're all full of shit. Chickens fight as a matter of instinct. I
like Popeye's!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqSvu4K8WrE&feature=related

If you want, you can even drink your chicken.

http://www.ghettowine.com/21/rooster2.html

Otis Campbell Wrote:
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> You're all full of shit. Chickens fight as a
> matter of instinct. I
> like Popeye's!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqSvu4K8WrE&feature
> =related
>
> If you want, you can even drink your chicken.
>
> http://www.ghettowine.com/21/rooster2.html


Gee Alias, you are full of shit to come up with this cajun character. Survivial is a matter of instinct for every living thing...duh?

I used to know Gene Berdean and Ed Shelton in Great Falls. cockfighting was a pursuit of our forefathers who viewed it as a rural pastime. A cock would be at least a year old before being fought where as broilers are generally 6-8 weeks. Cockers are fond of poultry as a hobby which is viewed as more and more unusal today. cock fighters hired a lobbyist and defeated attempts to make it more illegal in last years legislature which horrified Northern Virginia delegates to the legislature.

Rod Wrote:
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> I used to know Gene Berdean and Ed Shelton in
> Great Falls. cockfighting was a pursuit of our
> forefathers who viewed it as a rural pastime. A
> cock would be at least a year old before being
> fought where as broilers are generally 6-8 weeks.
> Cockers are fond of poultry as a hobby which is
> viewed as more and more unusal today. cock
> fighters hired a lobbyist and defeated attempts to
> make it more illegal in last years legislature
> which horrified Northern Virginia delegates to the
> legislature.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of pansy-ass-fags for
politicians from NOVA.

Rod Wrote:
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> I used to know Gene Berdean and Ed Shelton in
> Great Falls. cockfighting was a pursuit of our
> forefathers who viewed it as a rural pastime. A
> cock would be at least a year old before being
> fought where as broilers are generally 6-8 weeks.
> Cockers are fond of poultry as a hobby which is
> viewed as more and more unusal today. cock
> fighters hired a lobbyist and defeated attempts to
> make it more illegal in last years legislature
> which horrified Northern Virginia delegates to the
> legislature.

Yeah, I mean I'm not about to lobby for mainstreaming cock-fighting, and don't really give a shit about people who are into cock-fighting, but I just think it's a ridiculous thing to get upset about, considering the millions of chickens that are killed every day in chicken processing plants all over the country.

It would be about as logical to complain about the practice of scorpion fighting, while having a half-dozen different types of insect spray in your cubbard.

Dog fighting is one thing. Dogs have a special relationship with people. Chickens are just birds, and not the brightest of the birds.

spunky Wrote:
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> I had a thread about that subject titled, "Where's
> the Justice?" comparing the difference between
> cock fighting and dog fighting. Dog fighting is a
> felony, but cock fighting which is a favorite of
> Hispanics is a misdemeamer. It is still cruelty
> to animals and guess what that thread has
> disappeared? Imagine that?
>
> By the way Bob you haven't answered my PM's. You
> made reference to my posting "WAY" after the
> alleged time of the post I said I didn't post
> under the Western Express thread. Once again you
> are wrong, double check it again, you must need
> glasses as you age or you're getting blind. Or,
> you just lie like a rug, which I tend to
> believe...Elliot! Get a life and stop messing
> with mine you low life fag.

I haven't answered your PMs because I am getting tired of you going back and forth between accusing me of being alias or elliott in the morning and then asking me for advice and my opinion on who alias is and who on this site is elliott in the morning.

You need help. You appear to be bipolar or manic-depressive, or something. No offense, but I can't keep up with that.

Bob Wrote:
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> Rod Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I used to know Gene Berdean and Ed Shelton in
> > Great Falls. cockfighting was a pursuit of our
> > forefathers who viewed it as a rural pastime. A
> > cock would be at least a year old before being
> > fought where as broilers are generally 6-8
> weeks.
> > Cockers are fond of poultry as a hobby which is
> > viewed as more and more unusal today. cock
> > fighters hired a lobbyist and defeated attempts
> to
> > make it more illegal in last years legislature
> > which horrified Northern Virginia delegates to
> the
> > legislature.
>
> Yeah, I mean I'm not about to lobby for
> mainstreaming cock-fighting, and don't really give
> a shit about people who are into cock-fighting,
> but I just think it's a ridiculous thing to get
> upset about, considering the millions of chickens
> that are killed every day in chicken processing
> plants all over the country.
>
> It would be about as logical to complain about the
> practice of scorpion fighting, while having a
> half-dozen different types of insect spray in your
> cubbard.
>
> Dog fighting is one thing. Dogs have a special
> relationship with people. Chickens are just
> birds, and not the brightest of the birds.


It's the gambling associated with it as with gambling on boxing, it encourages
greed and ugliness.

You know Bob for someone who has a father who retired from the military, I find it odd you never speak of him hardly. But you speak alot of your working mom? Most moms of a high ranking officer rarely work, especially in the gov't. You also spoke of going to pick her up once, where was your dad?

You know what I think, I think you're Elliot. I believe he was brought up just my his mom which would explain alot here, his hate for women, his focus on his mom. You see liars get caught up in the details. You are a liar.

spunky Wrote:
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>
> You know Bob for someone who has a father who
> retired from the military, I find it odd you never
> speak of him hardly. But you speak alot of your
> working mom? Most moms of a high ranking officer
> rarely work, especially in the gov't. You also
> spoke of going to pick her up once, where was your
> dad?

I'm not sure what the mothers of high ranking officers usually do and don't do. My grandmother worked all her life, but couldn't afford to send my father to college so he applied to West Point and got accepted. She worked long before he became an officer.

Lots of officer's wives work. It wasn't as usual in the 70's, and even in the early 80's some officer's wives tried to make a big deal out of it, but there are a lot of officer's wives who work, and around here, odds are that a good number of them work for the government. However, my mother worked for a private company that has contracts with the government, which is completely different.


>
> You know what I think, I think you're Elliot. I
> believe he was brought up just my his mom which
> would explain alot here, his hate for women, his
> focus on his mom. You see liars get caught up in
> the details. You are a liar.


I'm sure you think I'm elliott. You think everyone on this forum is elliot, depending on which day it is.

I'm not getting caught up in any of MY details, I'm getting caught up in your confusion and delusional misinterpretation of everything I've ever posted.

I thought this would be a thread about Alias and Vince throwing punches.....a couple of dicks

Bob Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > You know Bob for someone who has a father who
> > retired from the military, I find it odd you
> never
> > speak of him hardly. But you speak alot of
> your
> > working mom? Most moms of a high ranking
> officer
> > rarely work, especially in the gov't. You also
> > spoke of going to pick her up once, where was
> your
> > dad?
>
> I'm not sure what the mothers of high ranking
> officers usually do and don't do. My grandmother
> worked all her life, but couldn't afford to send
> my father to college so he applied to West Point
> and got accepted. She worked long before he
> became an officer.
>
> Lots of officer's wives work. It wasn't as usual
> in the 70's, and even in the early 80's some
> officer's wives tried to make a big deal out of
> it, but there are a lot of officer's wives who
> work, and around here, odds are that a good number
> of them work for the government. However, my
> mother worked for a private company that has
> contracts with the government, which is completely
> different.
>
>
> >
> > You know what I think, I think you're Elliot.
> I
> > believe he was brought up just my his mom which
> > would explain alot here, his hate for women,
> his
> > focus on his mom. You see liars get caught up
> in
> > the details. You are a liar.
>
>
> I'm sure you think I'm elliott. You think
> everyone on this forum is elliot, depending on
> which day it is.
>
No, I know he posts here and you post the same time as him.
You talk sane one day, crazy another...just like him. You
hardly ever talk about your dad, just your mom, that's odd, just
like Elliot!


> I'm not getting caught up in any of MY details,
> I'm getting caught up in your confusion and
> delusional misinterpretation of everything I've
> ever posted.

No I am not delusional nor am I misinterpretating anything
you have posted...that's your role. But you have laid it all out
there for the world to see and I am not the only one to make such
an "observation!" These items I mentioned are "YOUR" details, which you
have foolishly shared with everyone on this forum. Liars forget what they
say, especially when they have so many lies to keep track of like you. You are also Gravis and pgens, along with so many more. What a pitiful, insecure, fool. After all wasn't you who was describing your deathly thin girlfriend? A lie, the stats didn't add up for her to exist unless she was dead. You are one sad, ugly, sicko! Anyone with half a brian can see right through you and see where the sadistic humor(lack of) on this forum comes from. You are a sorry excuse for a human being...tin man!

spunky Wrote:
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> No, I know he posts here and you post the same
> time as him.
> You talk sane one day, crazy another...just like
> him. You
> hardly ever talk about your dad, just your mom,
> that's odd, just
> like Elliot!


I've mentioned my father more than I've mentioned my mother. You obviously just remembered that my mother worked on a state dept/fema contract that took her to exercises out at Mt Weather many times. I've mentioned what year my father graduated from WP, and many other details like going to political fund raisers for Tom Davis and others with him, etc.

>

> No I am not delusional nor am I misinterpretating
> anything
> you have posted...that's your role. But you have
> laid it all out
> there for the world to see and I am not the only
> one to make such
> an "observation!" These items I mentioned are
> "YOUR" details, which you
> have foolishly shared with everyone on this forum.
> Liars forget what they
> say, especially when they have so many lies to
> keep track of like you. You are also Gravis and
> pgens, along with so many more. What a pitiful,
> insecure, fool. After all wasn't you who was
> describing your deathly thin girlfriend? A lie,
> the stats didn't add up for her to exist unless
> she was dead. You are one sad, ugly, sicko!
> Anyone with half a brian can see right through you
> and see where the sadistic humor(lack of) on this
> forum comes from. You are a sorry excuse for a
> human being...tin man!


You are absolutely correct. I am actually everyone else on this site besides you. In fact, I'm also Cary. I created this forum just so I could play games with you.

Oh wait, now I'm not sure. I can't keep track of all the lies anymore. I forget if I'm me or someone else, or everyone else.

Gee, it's all too confusing.

Bob Wrote:
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> Rod Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I used to know Gene Berdean and Ed Shelton in
> > Great Falls. cockfighting was a pursuit of our
> > forefathers who viewed it as a rural pastime. A
> > cock would be at least a year old before being
> > fought where as broilers are generally 6-8
> weeks.
> > Cockers are fond of poultry as a hobby which is
> > viewed as more and more unusal today. cock
> > fighters hired a lobbyist and defeated attempts
> to
> > make it more illegal in last years legislature
> > which horrified Northern Virginia delegates to
> the
> > legislature.
>
> Yeah, I mean I'm not about to lobby for
> mainstreaming cock-fighting, and don't really give
> a shit about people who are into cock-fighting,
> but I just think it's a ridiculous thing to get
> upset about, considering the millions of chickens
> that are killed every day in chicken processing
> plants all over the country.
>
> It would be about as logical to complain about the
> practice of scorpion fighting, while having a
> half-dozen different types of insect spray in your
> cubbard.
>
> Dog fighting is one thing. Dogs have a special
> relationship with people. Chickens are just
> birds, and not the brightest of the birds.

I remember I'd go out to visit Ed and he would condition his chickens for a fight by getting these bins of corn cobs. He'd throw a few pieces of corn in and the rosters would dig and dig, strengthening thier legs.

But to Ed it was his hobby. He'd go out and fool with his chickens instead of watch TV. I guess he thought ya my chicken is going to win the next one.

Ed's Grandfather was the originator of the "Shelton Roundhead" a famous breed of fighting chicken in the south.

To a lot of people having fighting chickens is crazy but to a lot of people being southern is crazy. Southerners are thought to be eccentric by some.

Ed had a pitbull but didn't himself like dog fights. He kept the dog to protect his chickens. I got one of the puppies and it was a very affectionate dog. It was pure muscle and ran with a particular grace. It was so strong that it climbed out of it's fence (trying to get to me) and got run over.

Gene was a old man when I knew him but would never the less would drag himself out to take care of his chickens which he never really fought anymore. Ed tried them once but said they were in some way inadequate. Gene used to run books and was a friend of Fritz Milton who sold the Niki Base. A lot of people thought he was black but he was a Alka Seltzer fiend. They found cupboards full of Alka Seltzer after he died.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2008 12:51AM by Rod.

Bob Wrote:
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> spunky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No, I know he posts here and you post the same
> > time as him.
> > You talk sane one day, crazy another...just
> like
> > him. You
> > hardly ever talk about your dad, just your mom,
> > that's odd, just
> > like Elliot!
>
>
> I've mentioned my father more than I've mentioned
> my mother. You obviously just remembered that my
> mother worked on a state dept/fema contract that
> took her to exercises out at Mt Weather many
> times. I've mentioned what year my father
> graduated from WP, and many other details like
> going to political fund raisers for Tom Davis and
> others with him, etc.
>

That's it, that's all you've said about your dad in a nutshell, you
summed it up... But your mom you talk about all the inside information
she had and clearances, but your dad had to have higher clearances, but not one word...fraud! No more fundraisers with Davis either, one for one loser! You never shared nearly as much about your dad as you did your mom, because he doesn't exist,just like you don't.

As for Ron, he is one of your characters also or he would not have said that all southerns are thought to be crazy. That is an ignorant statement, like Mrmephisto, Gravis, pgens, 496, Reston Peace, Eastsider, WTL, Vince, Registered Voter, Cary, tubby and the list goes on. If you didn't make up these posters no one would post here because you can cut your karma in this site with a knife, it's sadistic, like you. You live in your head, when it's not on drugs. The reason I know you are the only one posting is because if anyone else gave a crap about your forum here they would have blasted you for your ignorant statements by now on several threads. You try to run anyone with half a brain off because you knew you would be found out eventually. It's not like you haven't been told off a number of times here for your ignorance, stupidty and all around sadistic behavior. This site is a waste of anyone's time, it's worthless like you and will only last as long as you...not long, but to long as far as I am concerned.
The canary has said alot, worthless fool.
> >
>
> > No I am not delusional nor am I
> misinterpretating
> > anything
> > you have posted...that's your role. But you
> have
> > laid it all out
> > there for the world to see and I am not the
> only
> > one to make such
> > an "observation!" These items I mentioned are
> > "YOUR" details, which you
> > have foolishly shared with everyone on this
> forum.
> > Liars forget what they
> > say, especially when they have so many lies to
> > keep track of like you. You are also Gravis
> and
> > pgens, along with so many more. What a
> pitiful,
> > insecure, fool. After all wasn't you who was
> > describing your deathly thin girlfriend? A
> lie,
> > the stats didn't add up for her to exist unless
> > she was dead. You are one sad, ugly, sicko!
> > Anyone with half a brian can see right through
> you
> > and see where the sadistic humor(lack of) on
> this
> > forum comes from. You are a sorry excuse for a
> > human being...tin man!
>
>
> You are absolutely correct. I am actually everyone
> else on this site besides you. In fact, I'm also
> Cary. I created this forum just so I could play
> games with you.
>
> Oh wait, now I'm not sure. I can't keep track of
> all the lies anymore. I forget if I'm me or
> someone else, or everyone else.
>
> Gee, it's all too confusing.

spunky Wrote:
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> As for Ron, he is one of your characters also or
> he would not have said that all southerns are
> thought to be crazy. That is an ignorant
> statement, like Mrmephisto, Gravis, pgens, 496,
> Reston Peace, Eastsider, WTL, Vince, Registered
> Voter, Cary, tubby and the list goes on. If you
> didn't make up these posters no one would post
> here because you can cut your karma in this site
> with a knife, it's sadistic, like you. You live
> in your head, when it's not on drugs. The reason
> I know you are the only one posting is because if
> anyone else gave a crap about your forum here they
> would have blasted you for your ignorant
> statements by now on several threads. You try to
> run anyone with half a brain off because you knew
> you would be found out eventually. It's not like
> you haven't been told off a number of times here
> for your ignorance, stupidty and all around
> sadistic behavior. This site is a waste of
> anyone's time, it's worthless like you and will
> only last as long as you...not long, but to long
> as far as I am concerned.
> The canary has said alot, worthless fool.
> > >

Bob, it's out of character for you to attach a utube video, forgetting who you are? Crazy fool!

I am not a charcter of Bob

fighting chickens are a special they are "game" inherently. A "Game"rooster will keep fighting because it is game. You can't make a chicken game.

The saddest thing is the Animal rights people when they apprehend illegal chickens they will put them to sleep which seems some how unjust. If they really loved animals they would somehow try to preserve them or keep them alive one would think.

Dogs are another story.

I had never seen a real chicken fight though.

Ed who was quite upper class in Great Falls knew a guy in Herndon who would actually handle in the ring. The actual handling was just something that Ed wasn't good at. He'd get too excited he said.

Has anybody seriously considered calling Elliot and warning him? I think Spunky has the potential to be a stalker.

? Wrote:
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> Has anybody seriously considered calling Elliot
> and warning him? I think Spunky has the potential
> to be a stalker.


Haven't you been paying attention?

We're all Elliot.

If you post a comment on this forum, YOU ARE ELLIOT. So it's safe to assume all of us elliots have been warned.

Oh shit, I just cracked the code. Elliot is how spunky spells idiot.

? Wrote:
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> Has anybody seriously considered calling Elliot
> and warning him? I think Spunky has the potential
> to be a stalker.


Elliot could be a stalker, he's the one who's threatened me repeatedly, thanks Elliot.

spunky Wrote:
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> blah blah blah
Attachments:

Sorry but "Faggot" is a reference to males, that means YOU! You can't get anything straight can you?

Whatever, dude.

spunky Wrote:
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> You can't get anything straight can you?

I see what you did there.

Some are just curved. Not much you can do about it....