angry comic guy Wrote:
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> kneel before zod Wrote:
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> > I heard about it long before seeing the movie
> just
> > recently and a lot of people seemed to be
> getting
> > really bent out of shape over it. Now that I've
> > seen it, those people are just silly. It was
> > abundantly clear that Superman had absolutely
> no
> > choice but to kill Zod. There had already been
> > thousands if not hundreds of thousands of
> > casualties judging by the destruction by the
> > climax of the film before they faced off. What
> was
> > Superman supposed to do? Just let him go and
> make
> > him promise not to return? I never liked
> Superman,
> > he's too much of a conservative. Superman would
> no
> > doubt have voted for both George W. Bush and
> Mitt
> > Romney. He's a square. A stiff. Superman would
> > definitely be a pro-life, trickle-down
> > economics-having conservative dick in real
> life.
> > But I liked this new movie because they made
> > Superman have some anger issues, and he did
> what
> > he had to do.
> >
> >
> > Still a dumb character and a premise that
> > completely doesn't work in the 21st century
> (how
> > are they going to explain away the retarded
> > business of Clark Kent disguising himself with
> > just a pair of eyeglasses?). And where exactly
> in
> > the contiguous United States is Metropolis
> > located? And how is it an alien race has to
> adapt
> > to earth's atmosphere yet they speak english?
> > These kinds of things are really why the
> Superman
> > story doesn't work for a modern audience. But a
> > step in the right direction.
> > /
>
>
> Thank you whoever made this thread. You're a
> beacon of hope in a dark and heartless forum.
> Here's my two cents about it. General Zod, in many
> many ways was best suited to be the first villain
> in these new era superman movies. First and
> foremost, his backstory is "similar" to Kal-el's
> in that they both originated on Krypton and gained
> their powers through the destruction of their home
> world. In the comics, Zod only has even fought
> superman a handful of times, and I guess that the
> people in charge looked at Zod and went, "oh,
> theres a guy superman can beat the shit out of for
> 1.5 hours". Fact of the matter is that pre-crisis
> superman would have beaten him to death without
> trouble. In term of brute strength, he is NOT the
> equal of superman, under any circumstances. This
> rustled the shit out of me all throughout man of
> steel. Oh and the whole breaking his neck thing
> was cute, I guess, but the movie itself was shit.
> It was shit, and im mad as fuck about it.
There was not enough story in this one. I don't like to compare movies. I like to judge them on their own merits, but I couldn't help but think about the original Christopher Reeve Superman. And as cheesy and outdated as it is, there is still a lot in it story-wise and character-wise that holds up. There was very little character development in Man of Steel. I suppose the rationale was, "we all know the story, so let's not waste time setting these characters up too much". But I found myself wanting to see more of young Clark Kent growing up in Smallville, I wanted to see the Kents find him out in that field and adopting him, even though we've seen it a million times already. Without all that, I felt something was missing. Also, Perry White and a handful of other characters, including Lois Lane to some extent, were really just "there". If they could have somehow combined the best story and character elements of the original film with the updated, edgier tone of this one, I think it would've been great. But then again, you only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours here...
I really don't know a lot about Superman aside from what's in the popular culture for non-Superman fans. Not a DC guy to begin with. However, there was some great action in the movie. I just wish there had been more heart to it. Even at over 2 hours running time, it felt like they were rushing through things. Having said that, Superman Returns makes The Man of Steel look like Rashomon. What a stinkfest that movie was. They overcompensated for the action that was non-existent in the last one.
I hope we get a scene like this in the Batman vs. Superman movie:
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