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15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Gun Nutty
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:14PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/21/20116078-random-killing-of-australian-ballplayer-prompts-threats-boycotts?lite
Anonymous threats against a local high school and calls for a travel boycott by Australians to the United States came Tuesday after three Oklahoma teens were charged in the random shooting of a college baseball player jogging down a tree-lined street.
Christopher Lane, 22, a native of Melbourne, Australia, and a rising senior at East Central University, was gunned down Friday in Duncan, Okla. Police said one of the teens charged in the case said the boys "were bored" and didn’t have anything to do, so they decided to kill somebody.
James Francis Edwards Jr., 15, and Chancey Allen Luna, 16, were charged with murder. A third teenager, Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, was charged with being an accessory to murder after the fact and with firing a weapon. All were charged as adults, according to the Stephens County District Attorney’s Office.
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The shooting has dominated news reports in Australia and led Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer to call on Australian tourists to boycott the U.S.
"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," Fischer said on CNN on Tuesday night.
Anonymous threats against a local high school and calls for a travel boycott by Australians to the United States came Tuesday after three Oklahoma teens were charged in the random shooting of a college baseball player jogging down a tree-lined street.
Christopher Lane, 22, a native of Melbourne, Australia, and a rising senior at East Central University, was gunned down Friday in Duncan, Okla. Police said one of the teens charged in the case said the boys "were bored" and didn’t have anything to do, so they decided to kill somebody.
James Francis Edwards Jr., 15, and Chancey Allen Luna, 16, were charged with murder. A third teenager, Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, was charged with being an accessory to murder after the fact and with firing a weapon. All were charged as adults, according to the Stephens County District Attorney’s Office.
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The shooting has dominated news reports in Australia and led Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer to call on Australian tourists to boycott the U.S.
"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," Fischer said on CNN on Tuesday night.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
daniel carver
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:45PM
Call it for what it is.....The violent negro has no place in a peaceful society. Nothing but savages. Look at Baltimore, Detroit, D.C. prove me wrong.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
all the way with the KKK
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:50PM
They will not get the death penalty. Sorry to say that but it's true. They are under age even though they were charged as adults. Oklahoma will not have the guts to give them the death penalty.
I sincerely hope that Australia boycotts the hell out of America.
I sincerely hope that Australia boycotts the hell out of America.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
I agree with them
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:55PM
Australian government is very angry. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually slapped a temporary tax on flights to the US to make tourism dry up.
I don't blame them. To many outside the US, we are seen as a dangerous place on the same level that you or I see South Africa or Russia as being lawless.
I don't blame them. To many outside the US, we are seen as a dangerous place on the same level that you or I see South Africa or Russia as being lawless.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Things that make you say hmmm
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:58PM
Strange.
We also have about the same relative difference in the numbers of minorities typically associated with such crimes.
Much more closely aligned than the much greater difference in numbers of guns.
Go figure...
We also have about the same relative difference in the numbers of minorities typically associated with such crimes.
Much more closely aligned than the much greater difference in numbers of guns.
Go figure...
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Marf
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Date: August 21, 2013 12:59PM
The teens were caught four hours later after a concerned parent called police with a message: "Several juveniles are coming over to kill their son." The three were arrested in a church carpark adjacent to the intended victim's home. After police arrested the three teens, the oldest told police that they chose Christopher Lane at random. "We were bored and didn’t have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.'"
The youngest boy danced and laughed as he was being taken into a police station to be charged. District Attorney Jason Hicks said, "He thinks it's funny, and it's all a joke," Mr. Hicks said. While one of the boys is known to juvenile authorities for previous infractions, none of them have any apparent links to a gang or drugs. All three have been charged with first-degree murder and will be tried as adults.
The youngest boy danced and laughed as he was being taken into a police station to be charged. District Attorney Jason Hicks said, "He thinks it's funny, and it's all a joke," Mr. Hicks said. While one of the boys is known to juvenile authorities for previous infractions, none of them have any apparent links to a gang or drugs. All three have been charged with first-degree murder and will be tried as adults.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
The Hard Truth
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Date: August 21, 2013 02:32PM
We should hand them over to the Aussies. They'd make real sure the punishment fits the crime.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:00PM
You can't blame em, we kill each other like dogs.
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Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
LcWPx
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:16PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You can't blame em, we kill each other like dogs.
Not that cherry-picked shit again. It's been shot down more than Trayvon at this point.
If you're going to pull stats at least do it on a real basis. Look at the murder rates independent of guns, for example, in Russia. And violent crime and assault rates for others, for example, in the UK.
And if you normalize the data to put things on an equivalent basis for demographics, in particular, accounting for gun-related crime committed largely by young black males against one another mostly in our second-tier urban locations, we come in about the same or better than most others across the rest of the population.
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> You can't blame em, we kill each other like dogs.
Not that cherry-picked shit again. It's been shot down more than Trayvon at this point.
If you're going to pull stats at least do it on a real basis. Look at the murder rates independent of guns, for example, in Russia. And violent crime and assault rates for others, for example, in the UK.
And if you normalize the data to put things on an equivalent basis for demographics, in particular, accounting for gun-related crime committed largely by young black males against one another mostly in our second-tier urban locations, we come in about the same or better than most others across the rest of the population.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 27
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:22PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> You can't blame em, we kill each other like dogs.
Now remove 80-90% of that bar graph and youll see what the none black gang banger isnt responsible for.
"We" dont kill each other like anything. Young black males kill people like its a sport.
The Austiralian ban thing is also completely retarded, they should work on their own violent crime problem.
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> You can't blame em, we kill each other like dogs.
Now remove 80-90% of that bar graph and youll see what the none black gang banger isnt responsible for.
"We" dont kill each other like anything. Young black males kill people like its a sport.
The Austiralian ban thing is also completely retarded, they should work on their own violent crime problem.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:22PM
Knife crime in the UK is out of this world. South Africa and Brazil are also very violent. Let's not forget we don't have to deal with bombings on a constant basis here in the US like other countries do every day.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:34PM
So blacks killing each other off is okay? More guns if that's the case right?
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Dr Yes
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:43PM
Actually one teens was white so "violent teens" would be accurate.
The problem is video games and movies glorify killing people. Add to teens with access to guns and the enviable is going to happen.
Teens should not have access to guns.
Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually a safe place to live when you subtract war casualties..
The problem is video games and movies glorify killing people. Add to teens with access to guns and the enviable is going to happen.
Teens should not have access to guns.
Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually a safe place to live when you subtract war casualties..
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Nc7Fb
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:47PM
Dr Yes Wrote:
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
>
> Teens should not have access to guns.
>
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
Teens already can't legally have guns.
No, it's not because of guns. It has more to do with social factors and demographics than anything else as evidenced universally across the world independent of the levels of guns.
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
>
> Teens should not have access to guns.
>
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
Teens already can't legally have guns.
No, it's not because of guns. It has more to do with social factors and demographics than anything else as evidenced universally across the world independent of the levels of guns.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
YtELh
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:50PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> So blacks killing each other off is okay? More
> guns if that's the case right?
Nobody said that it's OK. Just the inconvenient truth of the matter.
But it's easier just to blame guns. That way you can make a speech saying how you took care of the problem and you don't have to actually deal with the harder root issues.
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> So blacks killing each other off is okay? More
> guns if that's the case right?
Nobody said that it's OK. Just the inconvenient truth of the matter.
But it's easier just to blame guns. That way you can make a speech saying how you took care of the problem and you don't have to actually deal with the harder root issues.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Errf
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:52PM
Social factors like allowing teens to have guns, violent video games and movies.
If these kids want to see what it was like to kill someboyd they should of joined the Army. Plenty of opportunities there.
I want to see what it's like to put three teens in jail for life. That should be fun to watch.
If these kids want to see what it was like to kill someboyd they should of joined the Army. Plenty of opportunities there.
I want to see what it's like to put three teens in jail for life. That should be fun to watch.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: August 21, 2013 03:56PM
Dr Yes Wrote:
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> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
Yep, if you subtract all the daily bombings, sectarian violence, corrupt and incompetent police and military, Al-Qaeda attacks, Iraq is a tranquil place to live.
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> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
Yep, if you subtract all the daily bombings, sectarian violence, corrupt and incompetent police and military, Al-Qaeda attacks, Iraq is a tranquil place to live.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 27
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Date: August 21, 2013 03:56PM
Dr Yes Wrote:
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
No its gangs, gang culture, one parent house holds, parents being a sustance abuser, lack of guns in urban areas allowing the gangs to own the neighborhoods ect.
The glorification of gang culture is the much bigger problem. Rap music and videos as a whole (not all of it) is the far bigger problem than movies or games.
> Teens should not have access to guns.
They dont legally so Im not sure what your point is.
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
The US isnt even close to the most dangerous place. Small pockets particularly in inner cities are very dangerous. The US as a whole isnt dangerous at all. If you honestly think the US is the most dangerous country you need to leave this conversation to adults. The places with the strictest gun laws in the country are the most dangerous and thats not arguable or open to interpretation.
Yes Iraq is fairly safe minus war casualties. Unless of course youre a woman trying to go to school, born to the wrong clan, stand to close to an IED, are a woman, are gay, are a foreigner, stand up to terrorists ect.
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
No its gangs, gang culture, one parent house holds, parents being a sustance abuser, lack of guns in urban areas allowing the gangs to own the neighborhoods ect.
The glorification of gang culture is the much bigger problem. Rap music and videos as a whole (not all of it) is the far bigger problem than movies or games.
> Teens should not have access to guns.
They dont legally so Im not sure what your point is.
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
The US isnt even close to the most dangerous place. Small pockets particularly in inner cities are very dangerous. The US as a whole isnt dangerous at all. If you honestly think the US is the most dangerous country you need to leave this conversation to adults. The places with the strictest gun laws in the country are the most dangerous and thats not arguable or open to interpretation.
Yes Iraq is fairly safe minus war casualties. Unless of course youre a woman trying to go to school, born to the wrong clan, stand to close to an IED, are a woman, are gay, are a foreigner, stand up to terrorists ect.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
xj9my
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Date: August 21, 2013 04:09PM
Errf Wrote:
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> Social factors like allowing teens to have guns,
> violent video games and movies.
>
> If these kids want to see what it was like to kill
> someboyd they should of joined the Army. Plenty
> of opportunities there.
>
> I want to see what it's like to put three teens in
> jail for life. That should be fun to watch.
Teens can't have guns. We passed a law to prohibit that so that problem is taken care of.
Lots of places have relatively high numbers of guns without killing each other like others do (e.g., Germany). Likewise, lots of places kill/assault people at higher rates than us even though they have strict gun controls (e.g., Russia and Latin America). It's not the guns, it's what's going on in the heads of the people who have guns. A gun doesn't tell you to go out and shoot somebody for the hell of it or because they're not in your gang/tribe/ethnic group, shoot up a school, etc. That gets there other ways.
I'd agree about other influences like movies and games and general glorification of thug culture. Anyone who denies that is full of shit. That's evidenced by the fact that the same people who promote and defend it as not having any influence are spending billions of dollars every year to influence behavior in the same way to sell their products to people.
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> Social factors like allowing teens to have guns,
> violent video games and movies.
>
> If these kids want to see what it was like to kill
> someboyd they should of joined the Army. Plenty
> of opportunities there.
>
> I want to see what it's like to put three teens in
> jail for life. That should be fun to watch.
Teens can't have guns. We passed a law to prohibit that so that problem is taken care of.
Lots of places have relatively high numbers of guns without killing each other like others do (e.g., Germany). Likewise, lots of places kill/assault people at higher rates than us even though they have strict gun controls (e.g., Russia and Latin America). It's not the guns, it's what's going on in the heads of the people who have guns. A gun doesn't tell you to go out and shoot somebody for the hell of it or because they're not in your gang/tribe/ethnic group, shoot up a school, etc. That gets there other ways.
I'd agree about other influences like movies and games and general glorification of thug culture. Anyone who denies that is full of shit. That's evidenced by the fact that the same people who promote and defend it as not having any influence are spending billions of dollars every year to influence behavior in the same way to sell their products to people.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 21, 2013 05:03PM
all the way with the KKK Wrote:
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> They will not get the death penalty. Sorry to say
> that but it's true. They are under age even
> though they were charged as adults. Oklahoma will
> not have the guts to give them the death penalty.
I thought the USSCt did away with capital punishment for crimes committed before a person turned 18.
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> They will not get the death penalty. Sorry to say
> that but it's true. They are under age even
> though they were charged as adults. Oklahoma will
> not have the guts to give them the death penalty.
I thought the USSCt did away with capital punishment for crimes committed before a person turned 18.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 27
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Date: August 21, 2013 05:29PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> I thought the USSCt did away with capital
> punishment for crimes committed before a person
> turned 18.
The 16 and 15 year old have zero chance of being put to death. I believe youre right about the death penalty being abolished for minors but 17 may be some sort of gray area if the right situation presented itself.
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> I thought the USSCt did away with capital
> punishment for crimes committed before a person
> turned 18.
The 16 and 15 year old have zero chance of being put to death. I believe youre right about the death penalty being abolished for minors but 17 may be some sort of gray area if the right situation presented itself.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Barry O
()
Date: August 21, 2013 05:42PM
I blame Bush, uhhh what was the question again?
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Obama school of excuses
()
Date: August 21, 2013 05:48PM
What do you expect. Obama gives them a free pass to act anyway they want and to blame others for your misdeeds. Then you have Jesse and Al weighing in to also excuse animal behavior because of some sort of conspiracy by the man holding them down.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
trogdor!
()
Date: August 21, 2013 07:38PM
They have no crime in Australia:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-people-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-people-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Voice Of Reason
()
Date: August 21, 2013 08:58PM
trogdor! Wrote:
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> They have no crime in Australia:
>
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8
> 216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-peo
> ple-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
>
> Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
Though I personally don't think a repeal of the Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to point out how your argument is flawed. How many years has it been since their last spree shooting, and how months since our last one? We almost had one the other day.
We don't need a ban on guns, we need to work on this mental health crisis and at the same time enact stricter background check laws.
Preferably ones that include mental health testing and possibly incentives for keeping guns secured. That's the only way to really solve this. Not more guns and not no guns, but regulated guns.
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> They have no crime in Australia:
>
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8
> 216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-peo
> ple-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
>
> Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
Though I personally don't think a repeal of the Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to point out how your argument is flawed. How many years has it been since their last spree shooting, and how months since our last one? We almost had one the other day.
We don't need a ban on guns, we need to work on this mental health crisis and at the same time enact stricter background check laws.
Preferably ones that include mental health testing and possibly incentives for keeping guns secured. That's the only way to really solve this. Not more guns and not no guns, but regulated guns.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
ENPNj
()
Date: August 22, 2013 02:31AM
Voice Of Reason Wrote:
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> trogdor! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They have no crime in Australia:
> >
> >
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8
>
> >
> 216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-peo
>
> >
> ple-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
> >
> > Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
>
> Though I personally don't think a repeal of the
> Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to
> point out how your argument is flawed. How many
> years has it been since their last spree shooting,
> and how months since our last one? We almost had
> one the other day.
>
Not as infrequent as you might think:
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/gay-sex-club-shooter-prayed-in-arabic-before-opening-fire/
http://www.bnowire.com/inbox/?id=1875
etc., etc.
Some journalist a few years back did an article where they went to different countries with relatively strict gun laws to see how hard it actually was to get a gun there. In all cases they were able to easily find guns, in most cases within couple of hours, and that was just dropping in cold not knowing anyone. If I remember right it took about 45 minutes in Australia.
They have a population that's less than 1/10th of ours so every event there is equal to about 10 here. Their rate is lower in any case. But what never gets said in these discussions which tend to attribute that to their ban is that it was lower prior to the ban anyway, the shooting which triggered it being a very rare event to begin with. They have much less of a problem with urban minority gangs et. al as here. The population is about 92% white, 7% Asian, and about 1% other, a large percentage of which are aboriginals who don't really play that same game.
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> trogdor! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They have no crime in Australia:
> >
> >
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/police-8
>
> >
> 216shoot-man-dead8217-at-coolum-home-where-two-peo
>
> >
> ple-were-found-dead/story-fnii5v70-1226701687850
> >
> > Oops. That wasn't supposed to happen.
>
> Though I personally don't think a repeal of the
> Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to
> point out how your argument is flawed. How many
> years has it been since their last spree shooting,
> and how months since our last one? We almost had
> one the other day.
>
Not as infrequent as you might think:
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/gay-sex-club-shooter-prayed-in-arabic-before-opening-fire/
http://www.bnowire.com/inbox/?id=1875
etc., etc.
Some journalist a few years back did an article where they went to different countries with relatively strict gun laws to see how hard it actually was to get a gun there. In all cases they were able to easily find guns, in most cases within couple of hours, and that was just dropping in cold not knowing anyone. If I remember right it took about 45 minutes in Australia.
They have a population that's less than 1/10th of ours so every event there is equal to about 10 here. Their rate is lower in any case. But what never gets said in these discussions which tend to attribute that to their ban is that it was lower prior to the ban anyway, the shooting which triggered it being a very rare event to begin with. They have much less of a problem with urban minority gangs et. al as here. The population is about 92% white, 7% Asian, and about 1% other, a large percentage of which are aboriginals who don't really play that same game.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Aussie go bang
()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:16AM
New plan unveiled to tackle out-of-control gun violence... in Australia.
http://www.ballinaadvocate.com.au/news/new-plan-unveil-tackle-out-of-control-gun-violence/1992835/
http://www.ballinaadvocate.com.au/news/new-plan-unveil-tackle-out-of-control-gun-violence/1992835/
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Cained
()
Date: August 22, 2013 01:54PM
Since Austraila had the mass shootings and put gun control in place there have been NO more mass shootings.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 27
()
Date: August 22, 2013 02:15PM
Voice Of Reason Wrote:
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> Though I personally don't think a repeal of the
> Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to
> point out how your argument is flawed. How many
> years has it been since their last spree shooting,
> and how months since our last one? We almost had
> one the other day.
Their last shooting spree was 2002. Their last mass murder I saw in a 10 second google search was 2011 when between 10-21 people were killed in an intentional fire, another mass arson murder happened in 09. Last night police shot and killed someone who had just committed a double Murder in Australia as well.
Its a complete fallacy that mass murders only happen with guns and that theyve stopped or murder has stopped in places without them. Also Australia has a population of 22 million compared to our 300+ million which includes a bunch of racial and ethnic backgrounds Australia doesnt have. Of course things are going to happen more here, their population isnt even 10 percent of ours.
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> Though I personally don't think a repeal of the
> Second Amendment is good idea, I just want to
> point out how your argument is flawed. How many
> years has it been since their last spree shooting,
> and how months since our last one? We almost had
> one the other day.
Their last shooting spree was 2002. Their last mass murder I saw in a 10 second google search was 2011 when between 10-21 people were killed in an intentional fire, another mass arson murder happened in 09. Last night police shot and killed someone who had just committed a double Murder in Australia as well.
Its a complete fallacy that mass murders only happen with guns and that theyve stopped or murder has stopped in places without them. Also Australia has a population of 22 million compared to our 300+ million which includes a bunch of racial and ethnic backgrounds Australia doesnt have. Of course things are going to happen more here, their population isnt even 10 percent of ours.
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: August 22, 2013 02:59PM
I don't know why people cant be honest. The problem is not guns or teens. The problem is NIGGERS!
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
history guy
()
Date: August 22, 2013 03:52PM
Gee, Austrialia didn't seem to mind U.S. citizen's bringing guns into their country when the Japs were going to invade their aussie arses now did they!
Re: 15 Times More Likely to Shot in The US - Austrialians Call For Boycotts of the US
Posted by:
Damn Whitey
()
Date: August 22, 2013 05:35PM
Dr Yes Wrote:
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
>
> Teens should not have access to guns.
>
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
You are a liar. 2 blacks and one biracial Obama-style hybrid. Mulattos tend to hate white people even more than your run of the mill negro. Just ask the good Rev'run Jeremiah Wright or his star parishioner Barack. Both Mulattos, both black nationalists.
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> Actually one teens was white so "violent teens"
> would be accurate.
>
> The problem is video games and movies glorify
> killing people. Add to teens with access to guns
> and the enviable is going to happen.
>
> Teens should not have access to guns.
>
> Yes, the US is the most dangerous country because
> of lax guns laws. Whats funny is Iraq is actually
> a safe place to live when you subtract war
> casualties..
You are a liar. 2 blacks and one biracial Obama-style hybrid. Mulattos tend to hate white people even more than your run of the mill negro. Just ask the good Rev'run Jeremiah Wright or his star parishioner Barack. Both Mulattos, both black nationalists.