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Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: concernedparentinNOVA ()
Date: December 13, 2011 10:26AM

Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe Creeper"?
apparently he drives around and watches kids play outside, or watches them walk around...

He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.

Our local neighborhoods are watching him.

Why doesn't he just back off?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: howsad ()
Date: December 13, 2011 10:59AM

Whatever you do, report all suspicious behavior here. Calling the police to let them know about suspicious behavior multiple neighbors have observed is totally, absolutely, worthless. You are very brave posting that info here, I hope some of the people who post yoga pants pictures can help you with your problem.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: concernedparentinNOVA ()
Date: December 13, 2011 11:17AM

The FFX police have told our neighborhood time and time again that nothing can be done UNTIL this creep breaks the law, and scoping out kids isnt illegal.

im just posting here wondering if anyone knows this creep.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: LiverLips ()
Date: December 13, 2011 11:26AM

concernedparentinNOVA Wrote:
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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

Sounds like 99% of the soccer moms who drive mini-vans around.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: kidluvingToyotahatin ()
Date: December 13, 2011 11:28AM

back off or jack off?

back off and get binoculars?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 12:21PM

Have you or any of the other neighbors considered asking him what he's doing? If a guy was spotted in my neighborhood even once, let alone multiple times, sitting around in a van or car just watching (and watching kids? Forget about it!), I'd go right up to that guy and ask him what he's doing and what business he thinks he has there. And if he doesn't have a good answer, he'll probably be leaving even before I have to tell him to move along and not come back. I'm amazed at how people are afraid or unwilling to do the obvious sometimes. If the OP is a female, how about having a couple of the neighborhood husbands approach him next time and tell him to get lost? Just don't send him to my neighborhood.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Mr. Insensitive ()
Date: December 13, 2011 12:40PM

concernedparentinNOVA Wrote:
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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

You're right, he's very dangerous...

"BRAUN ","JAMES ","R","043"," 6374","DOCKSER ","TE","FALLS CHURCH","VA","03/13/2009","NO/STATE INSPECTION

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: concernedparentinNOVA ()
Date: December 13, 2011 01:07PM

James M Braun...

and Yes, parents have approached him. Pics have been taken of him...

he hangs around crosspointe neighborhoods.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MrsR ()
Date: December 13, 2011 01:38PM

If James is really concerned I suggest he gets a court called an injunction that stops concernedparentinNOVA from being with 500 feet or so of him.

He can go down to the court and file for it.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 02:14PM

concernedparentinNOVA Wrote:
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> James M Braun...
>
> and Yes, parents have approached him. Pics have
> been taken of him...
>

What does he say when approached and asked about his reason for being there? This all sounds very covert/passive -- "he's being watched in the neighborhood"; "pics have been taken of him"; "parents have approached him" -- has someone with some authority told him plainly, in no uncertain terms, to get lost? I'm confused as to why he is not being told plainly to get the hell out if he is so overtly leering at kids as you have alleged. I don't know many dads who would sit by passively while their children are being blatantly watched by some "creeper" as you have called him. And honestly, I can't imagine some guy up to no good persisting in this behavior if he's been directly told to get out. So the "approach" you've described does not sound convincing.

I'm not talking about the local soccer mom telling him, "we're watching you." So what. I'm talking about a few of the local dads going right up to his car and giving him the "Bronx Tale" speech: we're telling you to leave and not be seen here again, or next time you will not be able to leave.

Note Virginia's open carry laws. If this guy is truly as menacing as told here, and oblivious to being "approached" (whatever that meant to you), I would have my gun prominently holstered as I went up to his car and told him to leave. Me and the other dads might also be on our way to hit a few baseballs with our bats at the local park or field when we told him to get out. The options are endless. Are you telling me not one dad has taken note of this situation and done something about it, or is the guy actually not menacing?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 02:23PM

concernedparentinNOVA Wrote:
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> The FFX police have told our neighborhood time and
> time again that nothing can be done UNTIL this
> creep breaks the law, and scoping out kids isnt
> illegal.

Some other food for thought: When the police tell you he is not breaking any laws, and nothing can be done until he breaks the law, they have given you subtle, unstated, and broad authority. Not to break the law yourself, of course, or to become some vigilante mob, but to deal with this local matter as needed. I hope this is now clear to you.

To put it another way, the police are telling you they cannot lawfully detain him, but there is almost certainly not a FCPD officer that would sit by while some guy is leering at the children in their own neighborhood. They would deal with him appropriately, within the law, but the guy would be GONE.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: What a creep ()
Date: December 13, 2011 02:59PM

I say shoot him in the face with pepper spray.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: description? ()
Date: December 13, 2011 03:02PM

Does he drive a medium green first generation Toyota Highlander and a circa 2004 Camry?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Creep ()
Date: December 13, 2011 03:30PM

The Fairfax County Police have talked to him; the police are the ones that have provided the local neighborhoods the ID of his cars to keep an eye on him. Since the police have talked to him there is no point in private citizens talking to him. But since he is not breaking the law there is not much we can do but keep an eye on him.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Date: December 13, 2011 03:40PM

Tire slashing sends a message...

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: sick of this ()
Date: December 13, 2011 04:00PM

The situation really is as the original poster noted. The creeper is a manipulator who in addition to watching kids from his car and recently trying to get them to come up to his car to talk to him, enjoys that the law abiding parents "can't do anything" because "he hasn't broken the law". The neighborhood spoken of has about 1000 homes, plus he sometimes goes into surrounding neighborhoods. I can't imagine why some loose cannon parent or cop hasn't handled this yet. It's been going on over 2 years now.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 04:09PM

Creep Wrote:
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>But since he is not breaking the law there is not much
> we can do but keep an eye on him.

Sorry, but this is completely pathetic to me. Please see my previous posts of action you could take.

Here's just a few examples of something that could be done, completely legal. If this guy is parked somewhere just sitting and leering, why don't you neighbors gather around his car, completely surrounding and intimidating him? Or at the very least you are blocking his view and not making it worth his while to sit there trying to leer at kids.

Or why don't you shout at him to get the hell out of there, right in his face, right in his ear? Why don't you water your lawn and point it right at his car and in his windows if they're rolled down? Blow leaves, shovel dirt or manure onto his car? Paint your fence and accidentally fling it all over his car. Have a game of street football. Oh, the ball accidentally keeps hitting his car or windshield? Sorry! Keep glaring at him, overtly, with the distinct look of "You are going to be hurt if you don't leave."

Post large blowups of those pictures of him every ten feet on the block with his name prominently displayed and the fact that he's been spotted hanging around. Completely legal, nothing libelous. I could think of 1,000 legal ways to harass this guy if he was on my block, he would not come back. What's he going to do, call the police to say you are harassing him? They'll politely tell him to F off and get out of there if he doesn't like it.

Honestly, is all of suburbia complete, feckless, loser pushovers?? Get a clue, or if you're unwilling to deal with him, then don't be surprised or complain when Mr. Perv takes it to the next level. You're practically giving him the green light if the best you have to offer is "we can only keep an eye on him."

Hell, if he managed to survive all the legal harassment above, then I would walk right up to him and overtly smash his windshield with a baseball bat, with him sitting right in the car. I'd do this every single day he came back, which would be exactly zero times. Let him sue me for the damages, it would be a small price to pay to get rid of him compared to the alternative of letting him stalk children until he gets up the nerve to act on his impulses. For crying out loud, get some cajones.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 04:17PM

sick of this Wrote:
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enjoys that the law abiding
> parents "can't do anything" because "he hasn't
> broken the law".

Of course he enjoys it, so far they've given him no reason not to. Time to change that attitude.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Date: December 13, 2011 04:23PM

aaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> Creep Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >But since he is not breaking the law there is not
> much
> > we can do but keep an eye on him.
>
> Sorry, but this is completely pathetic to me.
> Please see my previous posts of action you could
> take.
>
Post his pic on FFXU? Assuming that eesh's picture has not already been posted.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 13, 2011 04:30PM

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> Post his pic on FFXU? Assuming that eesh's
> picture has not already been posted.

lol.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: sick of this ()
Date: December 13, 2011 08:50PM

He must have child porn on his computer or look at it online for those times it's dark outside and he can't creep around. Does anyone know how to forward a tip to the appropriate law enforcement authorities to check up on this?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: in 2010- stalking Innisfree Drive ()
Date: December 13, 2011 09:14PM

There is a neighborhood near Hunt Valley ES that is very familiar with this guy.

This man would sit near a culdesac on Innisfree and just watch kids get off the bus. The ES notified the police to check out where the guy lived. He actually lives near a family that we know. He does have more than one car.

I didn't know that he has the moniker Xpointe Creeper--- I am sure that he has been on FC's radar for at least two years.

Sorry to hear that he is still doing this.



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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: video tape ()
Date: December 13, 2011 09:16PM

On Innisfree he was approached by parents. He had his window rolled up and drove away. He wouldn't engage in a conversation. Showed up the next day in a different car.

Friend's son went out in the yard and video taped the creep. The tag number to the vehcile was video taped with the picture of the driver.


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> Have you or any of the other neighbors considered
> asking him what he's doing? If a guy was spotted
> in my neighborhood even once, let alone multiple
> times, sitting around in a van or car just
> watching (and watching kids? Forget about it!),
> I'd go right up to that guy and ask him what he's
> doing and what business he thinks he has there.
> And if he doesn't have a good answer, he'll
> probably be leaving even before I have to tell him
> to move along and not come back. I'm amazed at how
> people are afraid or unwilling to do the obvious
> sometimes. If the OP is a female, how about having
> a couple of the neighborhood husbands approach him
> next time and tell him to get lost? Just don't
> send him to my neighborhood.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Habitual Kid Watcher ()
Date: December 13, 2011 09:29PM

I'm surprised that James is still up to his same ol' stuff. Two years ago I found his address. He lives a few doors away from my friend and her kids.
The police are well aware of him.

He visits more than just the Cross pointe neighborhoods. He has been in West Springfield Neighborhoods as well. Prior to the schools getting all day kindergarten, he would stalk out homes where kindergartners were being dropped off.

This guy must have a night job since he has been seen during mid morning/ early afternoon to 4 PM. Here is his information. This is his address. People have actually spoken to him at his home. He claims that he isn't doing anything wrong. Claims that he isn't watching kids-- just in the neighborhood.
Owner
Name BRAUN JAMES M,
Mailing Address 7821 WINDY POINT CT SPRINGFIELD VA 22153
Book 07298
Page 0664


Parcel
Property Location 7821 WINDY POINT CT
Map # 0972 05 0196
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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Lived near Scott St 22 yrs ()
Date: December 13, 2011 09:31PM


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Non Crime Unit ()
Date: December 14, 2011 07:15AM

I wonder what this guys' background is?

I'm sure that all of the local schools are aware of him!


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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: FFX parent ()
Date: December 14, 2011 08:15AM

I live in a neighborhood adjacent to crosspointe and have seen the dude too. In fact, several months ago he was parked in my neighborhood watching my kids. I started walking toward the car with a baseball bat in my hand and he drove away before I could get near him. We called police and they basically said what was reported above - it's not illegal to park on a public road.

The guy's sick and I don't plan on taking any chances that he'll act out at some point. If he shows up in my neighborhood again, I'm not going to let him sit there and ogle little kids - he'll get the wood shampoo.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: please post a pic of this creep ()
Date: December 14, 2011 08:27AM

Someone posted that they have video too.

I want to see what this creep looks like and tell my kids who they need to stay away from.

Thanks.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: abc ()
Date: December 14, 2011 09:21AM

Well thanks for that great advice. We have tried to approach him and he takes off multiple times. We call the police they talk to him, again multiple times, and he is back EVERYDAY.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Erty ()
Date: December 14, 2011 09:38AM

And he means every day.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Lee ()
Date: December 14, 2011 09:45AM

Would that be "stalking"?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: 4Dom ()
Date: December 14, 2011 09:57AM

Put a gate at all entrances to your neighborhood and only let people in you want.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 14, 2011 10:20AM

FFX parent Wrote:

> The guy's sick and I don't plan on taking any
> chances that he'll act out at some point. If he
> shows up in my neighborhood again, I'm not going
> to let him sit there and ogle little kids - he'll
> get the wood shampoo.

Good for you. Thank you for taking some action with the guy and demonstrating my point. Although you haven't explicitly said so, I'm assuming the guy has not returned since you approached with a potential weapon, so it sounds like he got the message.

Other people saying you have seen this guy in your neighborhood: Take note of what works.

Forget this "we approach him and he drives off" nonsense. For God's sake, step it up. If he's driving off when you walk up to him with your threatening iPhone in hand (note sarcasm here), why don't you instead have a show of force? Be ready when he arrives, box him in with your cars so he can't just drive away, and give him something to think about with a visible show of force.

You know what, never mind everything I said, keep taking pictures of him so he'll stay in your neighborhood and out of mine.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Nota Lawyer ()
Date: December 14, 2011 10:26AM

aaaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> why don't you instead have a show of force?

Uh...the guy hasn't done anything (based off the posts here).

A "show of force", however, is a direct threat that's probably illegal, CERTAINLY a good basis for a civil action BY him.

I'd think it would be better to simply observe and leave alone.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 14, 2011 10:45AM

Nota Lawyer Wrote:
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> aaaaaaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > why don't you instead have a show of force?
>
> Uh...the guy hasn't done anything (based off the
> posts here).
>
> A "show of force", however, is a direct threat
> that's probably illegal, CERTAINLY a good basis
> for a civil action BY him.
>
> I'd think it would be better to simply observe and
> leave alone.

I'm not suggesting anything illegal. A show of force can be absolutely legal. Are bouncers illegal because they are intimidating and a direct show of potential force?

Just as this guy is not making a specific threat that is illegal (yet), you can be threatening/intimidating and lawful at the same time. Leaving the situation alone, as you've suggested, may very well be inviting escalation by this person. Many, many sexual predators take smaller and smaller steps towards realizing their eventual end point of violent attack. It starts with fantasizing, then peeping, masturbating, stealing underwear, etc.,and can eventually grow into realizing an actual violent attack or abduction attempt. Maybe this guy won't go there, but leave it alone at your own risk. It won't be in my neighborhood.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Les ()
Date: December 14, 2011 10:45AM

Take photos of individual and cars in case something happens such as abduction attempt or home break-in.

There's a Braun property in Crosspointe held in trust. Maybe it's his parent and explains why's he's able to be there so much of the time.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: FFX Parent ()
Date: December 14, 2011 10:47AM

NOTA Lawyer may be right about giving him a cause of action against neighbors, but I'll take my chances of defending myself in a lawsuit rather than having my kids in jeopardy.

Perhaps Crosspointe can start a Neigborhood watch type group focused on this guy. Find out when he typically shows up and have two or three neighbors agree to stand watch each day and wait for him. Even if you don't beat his ass, maybe you cold "harass" him enough to scare him away. The other option is to meet with law enforcement and see if they can do some form of stepped up patrol for a few weeks and simply park their cruiser beside him. I know he doesn't seem phased by the cops because they have repeatedly questioned him and he still returns, but letting the situation continue is dangerous.

It's outrageous that we have to deal with this.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 14, 2011 01:37PM

FFX Parent Wrote:
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> but I'll take my
> chances of defending myself in a lawsuit rather
> than having my kids in jeopardy.

If they seriously think their kids are in danger, why are their kids at that playground while this individual is there? He can only be at one playground at a time, take them to another one if the police won't do anything about it. In the meantime make sure your kids know what he looks like and what his cars look like so they know to leave if he approaches and to not speak with him.

In the old days a parent would sit at the playground with the kids, it is virtually unheard of that a stranger approaches a child with an adult around.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2011 01:37PM by justsayin.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Im just sayin ()
Date: December 14, 2011 01:57PM

How about taking up a collection to give to a gangbanger to harass this guy? Have one rep from the parents cover their own tracks while meeting with the gangbanger, give the money, and let the gangbanger do whatever he wants to this guy.

Then the gangbanger gets arrested and the parents are covered.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Southeast Jerome ()
Date: December 14, 2011 03:15PM

I grew up in the ghetto, I live in the ghetto and I'll die in the ghetto. You know what we DON'T have in the ghetto? People sitting in their cars watching little kids play. You wanna' know WHY we don't have that in the ghetto? Because people in the ghetto HANDLE...THIS...SHIT. And people who sit in their cars watching kids, know NOT to do this in the ghetto. Why? Because people who sit in their cars watching kids know if they do that in the ghetto...THEIR SHIT...IS...GOING...TO...BE...HANDLED!

I'm not saying you step up and homicide this asshole but, for sure take advantage of the laws. He certainly is. Gather a group of 10 or more men with as many holstered guns and bats as was suggested above and make him uncomfortable. Call 911 everytime he is seen in the neighborhood. Everytime. #1) It documents his activity. #2) Consistent calls from the same neighborhood for the same person for the same crime are the bane of desk seargants everywhere. He'll marshall his forces with a "I'm tired of receiveing these calls. Shut this guy down so we can get back to real police work..."

Remember you're not trying to prevent him from committing a crime...you're trying to prevent him from just committing a crime in your neighborhood, where you own/rent your home, where your kids and your neighbor's kids are trying to grow up. Run him off. What he does elsewhere is that hood's responsibility.

Own your streets...own your hood...and HANDLE THIS SHIT.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Im just saying is just an idiot ()
Date: December 14, 2011 03:21PM

You're a goddamn genius, you know that? Brilliant.

Naw, I'm just kidding, you're a fucking retard.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: maybe the same guy? ()
Date: December 14, 2011 03:51PM

There was a white guy who cruised around the West Springfield area/Orange Hunt in a medium green Toyota Highlander or a charcoal gray Camry (both around 2003-2004 models). He had light-colored hair, glasses, and a VERY CREEPY way of staring at me if I happened to be outside. It was really weird. He would drive up and down the streets around the time school would be getting out. Hard to guess what age he was--not a young man, but maybe in his 40's and chubby enough that he looks somewhat younger.

Does this sound like the same guy?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Old and Bald ()
Date: December 14, 2011 06:19PM

I'd like to see a picture of him.

From what a school resource officer told me a year and a half ago, he was at least fifty years old and slightly bald.

I think that he wears sunglasses at times.

Creep!

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> Someone posted that they have video too.
>
> I want to see what this creep looks like and tell
> my kids who they need to stay away from.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Sounds like the creeper ()
Date: December 14, 2011 06:21PM

I think that it does sound like the same guy.

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> There was a white guy who cruised around the West
> Springfield area/Orange Hunt in a medium green
> Toyota Highlander or a charcoal gray Camry (both
> around 2003-2004 models). He had light-colored
> hair, glasses, and a VERY CREEPY way of staring at
> me if I happened to be outside. It was really
> weird. He would drive up and down the streets
> around the time school would be getting out.
> Hard to guess what age he was--not a young man,
> but maybe in his 40's and chubby enough that he
> looks somewhat younger.
>
> Does this sound like the same guy?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: HOA has done this ()
Date: December 14, 2011 06:24PM

The Innisbrook HOA did this. They formed a group and patrolled their streets when the school busses brought the kids home.

The guy slpit their neighborhood and didn't return.
He just went to another area that wasn't familiar with his shi((()


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> NOTA Lawyer may be right about giving him a cause
> of action against neighbors, but I'll take my
> chances of defending myself in a lawsuit rather
> than having my kids in jeopardy.
>
> Perhaps Crosspointe can start a Neigborhood watch
> type group focused on this guy. Find out when he
> typically shows up and have two or three neighbors
> agree to stand watch each day and wait for him.
> Even if you don't beat his ass, maybe you cold
> "harass" him enough to scare him away. The other
> option is to meet with law enforcement and see if
> they can do some form of stepped up patrol for a
> few weeks and simply park their cruiser beside
> him. I know he doesn't seem phased by the cops
> because they have repeatedly questioned him and he
> still returns, but letting the situation continue
> is dangerous.
>
> It's outrageous that we have to deal with this.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Roofer Nails ()
Date: December 14, 2011 06:30PM

Pick the spot that he usually parks and put roofer nails down on the pavement. When he pulls up, he will get flat tires.

Is it illegal to shoot paint ball guns at this guy?


Because his address is known; it is where he lives on Windy Point Court, 22153, off of Scott Street, people should begin sending him letters.

Ask him why he parks near bus stops to spy on children.

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> Well thanks for that great advice. We have tried
> to approach him and he takes off multiple times.
> We call the police they talk to him, again
> multiple times, and he is back EVERYDAY.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Little Mrs. ()
Date: December 14, 2011 06:40PM

Dear aaaaaaaaa,

Marry me! Seriously, I love men like you - brave, strong and manly! Yeah, baby!

Everyone else - heed aaaaaaaa's advice - show some force! Love the idea of the dads rallying around with baseball bats and holstered, permitted guns.

Oh and moms? What happens if you engage this guy in conversation? You know, ask if he's waiting for a child (play innocent). Can't answer? Won't talk? Drives off? Weird/creepy/suspicious! I'd make a big show of being on my cell and hell, I'd even call the police each and every time I see this guy. I've called the non-emergency number on suspicious dudes who were going door to door in my neighborhood...initially felt stupid and that maybe I was over-reacting, but the dispatcher reassured me that I was doing the right thing. Turns out the guys were posing as Wash Gas employees and were casing neighborhoods.

Seriously, you know damn well FC Police will have to so something if dozens of panic-stricken moms call even the non-emergency number daily.

What if this guy was a terrorist? Would we just watch in silence?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Crockett & Tubbs ()
Date: December 15, 2011 12:02AM

Little Mrs. Wrote:
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> Dear aaaaaaaaa,
>
> Marry me! Seriously, I love men like you - brave,
> strong and manly! Yeah, baby!
>
> Everyone else - heed aaaaaaaa's advice - show some
> force! Love the idea of the dads rallying around
> with baseball bats and holstered, permitted guns.
>
>
> Oh and moms? What happens if you engage this guy
> in conversation? You know, ask if he's waiting
> for a child (play innocent). Can't answer? Won't
> talk? Drives off? Weird/creepy/suspicious! I'd
> make a big show of being on my cell and hell, I'd
> even call the police each and every time I see
> this guy. I've called the non-emergency number on
> suspicious dudes who were going door to door in my
> neighborhood...initially felt stupid and that
> maybe I was over-reacting, but the dispatcher
> reassured me that I was doing the right thing.
> Turns out the guys were posing as Wash Gas
> employees and were casing neighborhoods.
>
> Seriously, you know damn well FC Police will have
> to so something if dozens of panic-stricken moms
> call even the non-emergency number daily.
>
> What if this guy was a terrorist? Would we just
> watch in silence?

Crockett: Well Rico...it sounds like this little lady's got it all figured out. Fairfax Vice would love to crack this guy's skull and keep those kids safe. Hopefully, the citizens will call this in...'cause I'll clear my desk of all my other cases in order to shut down this Jerry Sandusky wanna-be.

Tubbs: {scoffing} Heh yeah...time to put this Penn Stater in the state pen...Hit it, Sonny.

Ferrari Daytona: {actually a Corvette kit car} Vroom, vroom baby...vroom, vroom...

Phil Collins: ...and I can feel it, coming in the air tonight...Oh, Lord...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: James M Braun ()
Date: December 15, 2011 12:54AM

How DARE you refer to me as something like that? I have an affinity for small children, ok? Leave me alone, there's nothing illegal about taking pictures of toddlers playing in their yards. I need those photos for my child porn collecti- art exhibit....

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: yep ()
Date: December 15, 2011 07:41AM

Old and Bald Wrote:
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> I'd like to see a picture of him.
>
> From what a school resource officer told me a year
> and a half ago, he was at least fifty years old
> and slightly bald.
>
> I think that he wears sunglasses at times.
>
> Creep!
>
>
The man who has the Toyota Highlander/Camry and would drive around Orange Hunt could be 50+ year old. He is husky to chubby, with a round face. His hair is thin and light enough that he would be considered balding. He wears glasses (sometimes sunglasses). And he is REALLY CREEPY. I guess it's the same guy. Wish I had known this was a problem in other areas. No one else on our street paid any attention, and I figured the police would tell me: "It's not a crime for a man to drive around the neighborhood. We have more important things to do." But this guy drove too slowly and seemed far too interested in looking.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: concernedparentinNOVA ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:00AM

100% the same guy. those are the cars....

and yes, thats his description. VT graduate as well.

and FYI~people HAVE approached him with force, he has backed down for a few months but he ALWAYS comes back.

thanks for everyone for coming forth with your stories, this is the kind of information our neighborhood is interested in hearing. the stories are similar.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Orange Hunt West ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:55AM

Thanks for the heads up on this douche bag. If he has been creeping around Orange Hunt Elementary then I know he must be creeping around Sangster as well. The map show that he basically lives across the Parkway from Orange Hunt/Orange Hunt West. Will BOLO for a green Highlander and Gray Camry.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: advice ()
Date: December 15, 2011 12:25PM

Come summer time, I'd think he could volunteer to help at the Crosspointe pool with the swim team. That way he will be in one place where people can keep an eye on him. Yeah, he might be a little too focused on the swimmers, but given the history and reputation of the Crosspointe NVSL team, they deserve whatever they get.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Still Bitter ()
Date: December 15, 2011 12:28PM

While I agree with most everything aaaa has said, and would/will do, the one thing eveyone must know is that FCPD DO NOT CARE. They are not paid to care. It's not like the way many of us grew up where the police were part of our community. Once a crime has been committed then they will go through the motions of paperwork. IN 2005 I caught a half naked pervert with his pants down watching me and my daughter(same neighborhood, btw) from the neighbor's bushes. There were several police less than a mile away conducting a speed trap and would not leave to respond to my 911 call. Once my child was safe I approached the pervert and told him the police were on their way and that I have witnesses (true) and his license plate number. Of course he took off and the FCPD showed up 13 minutes later. Even with a corroborating witness the judge let him go scott free. In VA, the judge does not get to see the Victim Impact Statement until there is a conviction, thus the prosecutor was not allowed to show the judge my statement because the perv was not prosecuted. Effed up, huh? Since a child was involved the police initially charged him with a felonly. The Commonwealth Attorney reduced the charge to a misdemeanor because a 2 year old does not make a good witness. My neighbor was the corroborating witness. It is highly unlikely that this guy learned his lesson and thanks to the judge and a very green Commonwealth attorney, the perv is free to perpetrate more crimes against children that will mosly likely escalate. Hindsight...bla,bla,bla. I should have just shot him.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 15, 2011 12:55PM

Roofer Nails Wrote:
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> Pick the spot that he usually parks and put roofer
> nails down on the pavement. When he pulls up, he
> will get flat tires.

Brilliant idea... in order to make him go away, execute a plan that does the exact opposite!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: George ()
Date: December 15, 2011 02:15PM

No. The opposite is to go up to him and make him feel really wanted. Smile and wave as he sits in his car. Have one of the neighborhood ladies go up to him with an offering of Xmas fruitcake. Obviously, this guy gets his kicks by seeing how much he can get under your skin. It's time to show him that he can't win by creeping you out...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 15, 2011 02:42PM

Little Mrs. Wrote:
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> Dear aaaaaaaaa,
>
> Marry me! Seriously, I love men like you - brave,
> strong and manly! Yeah, baby!
>

Okay, but I'll have to figure out what to do with the other Little Mrs. first ;-) And thanks.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Speed Bump Shooter ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:01PM

Orange Hunt Estates is known for those gun carrying homeowners.

It was just one year ago that a man angry with someone that had a speed hump put in, killed the guy.

Because James Braun continues to stalk little kids to watch them, he must wear a bullet proof vest. One of these days, a fed up parent/ citizen will take the law into their own hands.


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> No. The opposite is to go up to him and make him
> feel really wanted. Smile and wave as he sits in
> his car. Have one of the neighborhood ladies go
> up to him with an offering of Xmas fruitcake.
> Obviously, this guy gets his kicks by seeing how
> much he can get under your skin. It's time to
> show him that he can't win by creeping you out...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: blogo ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:37PM

All this big talk sounds great until he files a multi-million dollar lawsuit that threatens to take away your house and to bankrupt you. No judge will be sympathetic. You can not break the law just because you suspect someone will commit a crime. This is not Minority Report. Do you folks know the definition of assault?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Les ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:42PM

How about getting a No Loitering sign posted around the playground? It then becomes a law enforcement issue.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: December 15, 2011 08:43PM

Maybe he had a child of his own once. But when the child was three, he ran out into the street and was hit by a car. He watches the children to punish himself for not being there to save his son. To remind himself of how his son would be growing and thriving if he had just paid better attention,

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 15, 2011 09:20PM

blogo Wrote:
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> All this big talk sounds great until he files a
> multi-million dollar lawsuit that threatens to
> take away your house and to bankrupt you. No
> judge will be sympathetic. You can not break the
> law just because you suspect someone will commit a
> crime. This is not Minority Report. Do you folks
> know the definition of assault?

If you're not willing to take an assault charge to protect your kids you got real issues. This crap wouldn't fly in my neighborhood but that's probably why the pedo is there, and not here.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Bystander ()
Date: December 15, 2011 10:17PM

So why don't you just park a car real close in front of him, then park a car real cose behind him. If he says anything, tell him you will be back in a minute....lol

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Still Bitter ()
Date: December 16, 2011 06:13AM

blogo Wrote:
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> All this big talk sounds great until he files a
> multi-million dollar lawsuit that threatens to
> take away your house and to bankrupt you. No
> judge will be sympathetic. You can not break the
> law just because you suspect someone will commit a
> crime. This is not Minority Report. Do you folks
> know the definition of assault?

Agreed, a lot of silly ideas for a potentially dangerous threat. You sound like the attorney we spoke to regarding a registered sex offender that moved in to our neighborhood a few years after my incident. She told us; "Anything you do will be considered harrassment." Victims have few rights and the police will not go the extra mile to make the neighborhoods they patrol more secure. We took action. No taunting or weekend warriors walking around with bats. The man quietly moved out within 30 days.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Just the facts, Ma'am ()
Date: December 16, 2011 09:21AM

Speed Bump Shooter Wrote:
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> Orange Hunt Estates is known for those gun
> carrying homeowners.
>
> It was just one year ago that a man angry with
> someone that had a speed hump put in, killed the
> guy.

The truth behind your stupid statment: Patton was also a former Alexandria cop.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/tom-jackman/fairfax-homicide-linked-to-roa.html

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: another theory ()
Date: December 16, 2011 09:43AM

Wouldn't it be hilarious after all this tough talk if it turned out the guy was just parking in these neighborhoods to pick up their unsecured Wi-Fi signal.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MBF ()
Date: December 16, 2011 10:20AM

Speed Bump Shooter Wrote:
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> Orange Hunt Estates is known for those gun
> carrying homeowners.
>
> It was just one year ago that a man angry with
> someone that had a speed hump put in, killed the
> guy.
>


No, those two guys had been going at it for a long time prior to the speed hump going in. Did the guy deserve to be killed, no way, but regardless-- it wasn't actually because of a speed hump.That was just the icing on the cake.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: I'm just sayin ()
Date: December 16, 2011 11:09AM

Wait, we've got people talking about "If you're not willing to take an assault charge to protect your kids you've got issues", and *I* am the idiot for suggesting paying a gangbanger $500 to wax this fool? Whatever...you're obviously not serious about stopping this kid-toucher.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Olde Farte ()
Date: December 16, 2011 11:17AM

I'm just sayin Wrote:
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> ...this kid-toucher.

Oh!

I thought he was a loiterer.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Bystander ()
Date: December 16, 2011 11:20AM

another theory Wrote:
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> Wouldn't it be hilarious after all this tough talk
> if it turned out the guy was just parking in these
> neighborhoods to pick up their unsecured Wi-Fi
> signal.


Ya. That would be funny:
War Driver posses as pediphile to steel internet access! LOL

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: I'm just sayin ()
Date: December 16, 2011 11:26AM

With what he's been doing, is there any doubt he'd diddle a kid given the chance? Don't give him the chance.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Olde Farte ()
Date: December 16, 2011 12:31PM

I'm just sayin Wrote:
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> With what he's been doing...

From what I've read he's been loitering.

Period.

Just because a hysterical parent posts here that someone is dangerous doesn't make it so.

Wasn't the stupid "Dog Murdered By Vet" thread proof enough that things aren't necessarily as they appear in one or two hysterical posts?

========

What do we "know"?

(1) Some guy has parked his car on a street repeatedly then sat in it.

(2) The police have been called, have talked to the guy, and have totally dismissed doing anything with him.

(3) When the guy is pestered by suspicious people, he moves on.

(4) Oh...and the guy, assuming the name/address above is correct, has an absolutely clean arrest record.

That's it. That literally is all we know.

What can we speculate?

(1) He's a bad guy.

(2) He's been hired by someone to watch as a particular kid leaves a schoolbus to make sure the kid isn't removed by the OTHER side of the failed marriage.

(3) He's a bill collector hoping to catch up with some deadbeat.

(4) As noted above, he's just using someone's wide-open internet.

Etc ad nauseum.

=========

Granted, naive hysteria is a lot more fun.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Troll.Sniper ()
Date: December 16, 2011 12:41PM

Olde Farte Wrote:
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> I'm just sayin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With what he's been doing...
>
> From what I've read he's been loitering.
>
> Period.
>
> Just because a hysterical parent posts here that
> someone is dangerous doesn't make it so.
>
> Wasn't the stupid "Dog Murdered By Vet" thread
> proof enough that things aren't necessarily as
> they appear in one or two hysterical posts?
>
> ========
>
> What do we "know"?
>
> (1) Some guy has parked his car on a street
> repeatedly then sat in it.
>
> (2) The police have been called, have talked to
> the guy, and have totally dismissed doing anything
> with him.
>
> (3) When the guy is pestered by suspicious people,
> he moves on.
>
> (4) Oh...and the guy, assuming the name/address
> above is correct, has an absolutely clean arrest
> record.
>
> That's it. That literally is all we know.
>
> What can we speculate?
>
> (1) He's a bad guy.
>
> (2) He's been hired by someone to watch as a
> particular kid leaves a schoolbus to make sure the
> kid isn't removed by the OTHER side of the failed
> marriage.
>
> (3) He's a bill collector hoping to catch up with
> some deadbeat.
>
> (4) As noted above, he's just using someone's
> wide-open internet.
>
> Etc ad nauseum.
>
> =========
>
> Granted, naive hysteria is a lot more fun.

Don't forget, Olde Farte...we also know

(5) Olde Farte is an insensitive fucktard who has no perspective on this because he's never had to deal with a probable kid toucher in his gated community.

So, we can also speculate...

(5) Olde Farte needs to have an egg nog, shut the fuck up and leave the monkey wrenching and blow torching of James Braun to the citizens who want to protext their kids.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:00PM

For those who have seen the individual in the area, is this him?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8706660117

Regarding the posts about possible innocent motives by the person seen in the area: These are very wise observations, people need to be careful before assuming the individual is up to no good. That is why I advocated first talking to the person to see what purported business he has in the area. But it seems the individual has raised suspicions by leaving when approached and has, according to the residents, "flaunted" his ability to operate with impunity. Just as it would be wrong to assume he has bad intentions, it would also be foolhardy to assume he does not.

Also, if the individual is the James Braun that works at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, that would tend to shoot down many of the alternate theories about him being a collection agent, private detective, etc.

http://moneyfactory.gov/images/2008_BEP_FOIA_Annual_Report.pdf

If I was a resident in the area and witnessed this "suspicious" behavior for myself, and if the person fled when approached peacefully to see what he's up to, I would treat this individual with a great deal of suspicion and would send a clear message he is not welcome unless he's willing to shed some light on his activities.
Attachments:
braun.bmp

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:08PM

Still Bitter Wrote:
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> We took action. No taunting or weekend warriors
> walking around with bats. The man quietly moved
> out within 30 days.


So what did you do?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:22PM

I'm just sayin Wrote:
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> Wait, we've got people talking about "If you're
> not willing to take an assault charge to protect
> your kids you've got issues", and *I* am the idiot
> for suggesting paying a gangbanger $500 to wax
> this fool? Whatever...you're obviously not
> serious about stopping this kid-toucher.


I'm sure the other posters are referring to your extravangant spending. Who has $500 to just throw around like that? Are you not aware of the current economic circumstances? Taking an assualt is a.) cheaper and b.) if you even have a job, fill out a PTO form and get paid for lounging around in the FFX ADC for a few days. But seriously keep the $500 or better yet, buy a gun with it.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:25PM

> Regarding the posts about possible innocent
> motives by the person seen in the area: These are
> very wise observations, people need to be careful
> before assuming the individual is up to no good.

Why? Is it a crime to assume someone is up to no good? I'm assuming YOU'RE up to no good right now. How do you like them apples. oooooo I better be careful.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Olde Farte ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:36PM

MisterSpookey Wrote:
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> ...Is it a crime to assume someone is up to no
> good?...

Not at all - that's what the whole Neighborhood Watch bit is about - folks keeping an eye out for Bad Guys threatening their well-being.

Actually DOING something to a loiterer, however, quite likely has moved into illegality.

It's strange that the above posters who want to hang this loiterer are ALL ignoring the very real (as related) fact that the police have questioned the guy MULTIPLE times and leave him alone. Isn't this waving ANY flags in front of the hysteria? None?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:51PM

MisterSpookey Wrote:
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> > Regarding the posts about possible innocent
> > motives by the person seen in the area: These
> are
> > very wise observations, people need to be
> careful
> > before assuming the individual is up to no
> good.
>
> Why? Is it a crime to assume someone is up to no
> good? I'm assuming YOU'RE up to no good right now.
> How do you like them apples. oooooo I better be
> careful.

Those apples don't matter to me, do as you wish.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 16, 2011 01:57PM

Olde Farte Wrote:
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> It's strange that the above posters who want to
> hang this loiterer are ALL ignoring the very real
> (as related) fact that the police have questioned
> the guy MULTIPLE times and leave him alone. Isn't
> this waving ANY flags in front of the hysteria?
> None?

I'm not advocating hanging a loiterer, but I do not read too much into the fact that the police have not arrested or detained the individual. That by itself means very little, it means only that they did not have probable cause to arrest him for a crime. The police have great authority, and have to exercise that authority very carefully so that they do not deprive someone of their constitutional rights of liberty, freedom from unreasonable searches, etc. If the individual has not committed a crime, there is little they can do. That does not translate to the individual not being a threat, however.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 16, 2011 02:19PM

Olde Farte Wrote:
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> MisterSpookey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...Is it a crime to assume someone is up to no
> > good?...
>
> Not at all - that's what the whole Neighborhood
> Watch bit is about - folks keeping an eye out for
> Bad Guys threatening their well-being.
>
> Actually DOING something to a loiterer, however,
> quite likely has moved into illegality.
>
> It's strange that the above posters who want to
> hang this loiterer are ALL ignoring the very real
> (as related) fact that the police have questioned
> the guy MULTIPLE times and leave him alone. Isn't
> this waving ANY flags in front of the hysteria?
> None?

Not to me. Perception has alot of sway with the cops and luckily for parents, my burden of proof is far lower. When it comes to my kids, the situation is what I say it is. If a situation arises and if I'm the first one to call the cops then the chances are high that what I say is what the cops will believe, that perception becomes reality.

So if, let's say hypothetically, some clown is scoping out my kids in my neighborhood and I happened to accidently rap him in the mouth then scuff myself up and call the cops and report that *I* was assaulted necessitating some self-defense, complete with markings on my face AND a history of complaints against said creep.....it's fair to say that DOING something and the legality is a matter of perception as far as the cops are concerned.

Not that I would advocate something like that, I'm just sayin'.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 16, 2011 02:21PM

aaaaaaaa Wrote:

> Those apples don't matter to me, do as you wish.


It's hard for me to believe you would comment on something if it didn't matter. In fact, I can't think of anything that would indicate it mattered MORE than replying that it didn't matter.

It's beyond obvious that those apples matter. good day.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Creep ()
Date: December 16, 2011 03:03PM

Why not stalk him. Follow him. Take pictures of him. Post the pictures here and anywhere you can think of. leave flyers about him where he lives. He can be stopped. I'm so sick of the law protecting creeps like him. When something happens then it's too late.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aahso ()
Date: December 16, 2011 04:19PM

fix him up with that underdeveloped Northrop Grumman chick.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 16, 2011 04:36PM

aaaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> The police have great authority, and have
> to exercise that authority very carefully so that
> they do not deprive someone of their
> constitutional rights of liberty, freedom from
> unreasonable searches, etc. If the individual has
> not committed a crime, there is little they can
> do. That does not translate to the individual not
> being a threat, however.

Agreed. Police never overstep their bounds when they want to, especially in Fairfax County and they should extend that same restraint with potential kid-touchers.


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: SRO did question him ()
Date: December 16, 2011 05:12PM

The SR0 (school resource officer) did question him when he was on a culdesac near a bus stop one day.
What is your buisness on this street? Why are you parked here?

James Braun stated that he was only parked there waiting for someone. Braun didn't know anyone that lived on the street. The SRO told Braun that he would be checking with the neighbors to see if this became an every day ocurrance.

Braun was deterred for a few days and showed up again a week later at the same bus stop. Area I transportation refused to allow the driver to let the kids off the bus. The kids were returned to the school until the SRO went back out to address this creep.

That was quite a while ago. I'm surprised that he is still doing this.

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> For those who have seen the individual in the
> area, is this him?
>
> http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberp
> rofile/list.htm?regId=8706660117
>
> Regarding the posts about possible innocent
> motives by the person seen in the area: These are
> very wise observations, people need to be careful
> before assuming the individual is up to no good.
> That is why I advocated first talking to the
> person to see what purported business he has in
> the area. But it seems the individual has raised
> suspicions by leaving when approached and has,
> according to the residents, "flaunted" his ability
> to operate with impunity. Just as it would be
> wrong to assume he has bad intentions, it would
> also be foolhardy to assume he does not.
>
> Also, if the individual is the James Braun that
> works at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing,
> that would tend to shoot down many of the
> alternate theories about him being a collection
> agent, private detective, etc.
>
> http://moneyfactory.gov/images/2008_BEP_FOIA_Annua
> l_Report.pdf
>
> If I was a resident in the area and witnessed this
> "suspicious" behavior for myself, and if the
> person fled when approached peacefully to see what
> he's up to, I would treat this individual with a
> great deal of suspicion and would send a clear
> message he is not welcome unless he's willing to
> shed some light on his activities.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: ConcernedInCrosspointe ()
Date: December 16, 2011 05:44PM

SRO did question him Wrote:
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> The SR0 (school resource officer) did question him
> when he was on a culdesac near a bus stop one day.
>
> What is your buisness on this street? Why are you
> parked here?
>
> James Braun stated that he was only parked there
> waiting for someone. Braun didn't know anyone
> that lived on the street. The SRO told Braun that
> he would be checking with the neighbors to see if
> this became an every day ocurrance.
>
> Braun was deterred for a few days and showed up
> again a week later at the same bus stop. Area I
> transportation refused to allow the driver to let
> the kids off the bus. The kids were returned to
> the school until the SRO went back out to address
> this creep.
>
> That was quite a while ago. I'm surprised that
> he is still doing this.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those who have seen the individual in the
> > area, is this him?
> >
> >
> http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberp
>
> > rofile/list.htm?regId=8706660117
> >
> > Regarding the posts about possible innocent
> > motives by the person seen in the area: These
> are
> > very wise observations, people need to be
> careful
> > before assuming the individual is up to no
> good.
> > That is why I advocated first talking to the
> > person to see what purported business he has in
> > the area. But it seems the individual has
> raised
> > suspicions by leaving when approached and has,
> > according to the residents, "flaunted" his
> ability
> > to operate with impunity. Just as it would be
> > wrong to assume he has bad intentions, it would
> > also be foolhardy to assume he does not.
> >
> > Also, if the individual is the James Braun that
> > works at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing,
> > that would tend to shoot down many of the
> > alternate theories about him being a collection
> > agent, private detective, etc.
> >
> >
> http://moneyfactory.gov/images/2008_BEP_FOIA_Annua
>
> > l_Report.pdf
> >
> > If I was a resident in the area and witnessed
> this
> > "suspicious" behavior for myself, and if the
> > person fled when approached peacefully to see
> what
> > he's up to, I would treat this individual with
> a
> > great deal of suspicion and would send a clear
> > message he is not welcome unless he's willing
> to
> > shed some light on his activities.

All due respect to the SRO but...how the fuck is he/she fucking sleeping at fucking night not having fucking called the fucking police? As in the Sandusky case, isn't the SRO as a state employee REQUIRED to notify the authorities? If he/she has contacted law enforcement has that contact been documented?

And for all the skeptics/ACLU-ers on this thread...how many people do you know that exhibit this behavior for as long as Braun has in as many places as he has and are NOT kid touchers?

I guess it's a good thing this thread is date and time stamped...the state might need a hard copy soon...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Olde Farte ()
Date: December 16, 2011 06:09PM

> ...SRO...

A(n) SRO =is= a police officer.

So now according to Yet ANother Post not ONLY did run-of-hte-mill police officers talk to this guy, but even an officer intimately familiar with the school system talked to him.

And did nothing.

Repeatedly.

Perhaps literally-unfounded hysteria is not the way to continue?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: December 16, 2011 07:00PM

I have never,personally, spent a day sitting in a car watching children play, but I could see why someone would...kids are great and amusing. Kids still are innocent and do not worry about life and actually PLAY...do any of us remember what that is even like? Am I the only one that smiles and gets a kick out of a kid saying something out of the blue at the grocery store that is so true, but would never be uttered by an adult - it is hysterical. Just today while walking out of an ice-skating place a young kid, and his dad, were walking by and the kid waves his hockey stick at me and pretends to shoot a puck by me and raises his arms in victory - as he is walking away cheering himself and thanking the imaginary crowd.

If I did decide to go sit in a car and watch a playground full of kids for my own amusement and someone approached me with a "hostile" or an aggressive manner about them - I would get out of the car and tell them to go fuck themselves. At that point I would stand there and ask if there was anything physical they were planning or needing to do? I would tell them to do it and that I look forward to defending myself from them = me putting them to sleep.

Until this guy does something more than sitting in a fucking car, and getting the neighborhood royal cunts all worked up...live an let live.

Furthermore, if a parent can not protect themselves, or their children, from someone who is out in the open and not hiding at all...that is their own fault.

Maybe, go talk to the guy, invite him to sit on a bench with the other parents...ask him HIS story, get to know him, NOT to get details on how to lynch him, but to find out about who he is --- maybe he is just a lost soul that needs someone to invite him into the world?

Bottom-line...no one knows him or why he hangs out near the playgrounds/kids - be proactive with POSITIVE intent, see how that works out before you ASSUME he is a predator. So many people just think the worst case scenario at all times...that is no way to live life.

A Minor Threat

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: WTF? ()
Date: December 16, 2011 07:13PM

Creep Wrote:
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> The Fairfax County Police have talked to him; the
> police are the ones that have provided the local
> neighborhoods the ID of his cars to keep an eye on
> him. Since the police have talked to him there is
> no point in private citizens talking to him. But
> since he is not breaking the law there is not much
> we can do but keep an eye on him.

How about stalking, suspicious behavior, etc? Are there any lawyers on here that can elaborate on what the legal lines are?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: I guess postpoppunk ()
Date: December 16, 2011 07:41PM

Does not have have any children of his own. Once you have a child you will worry about them everyday. You will do anything to protect their innocent souls.

Now please go fuck yourself.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: December 16, 2011 08:48PM

I guess postpoppunk Wrote:
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> Does not have have any children of his own. Once
> you have a child you will worry about them
> everyday. You will do anything to protect their
> innocent souls.
>
> Now please go fuck yourself.


You know nothing of me, yet make a conclusion --- proving my point perfectly, thank you.

I am very versed and experienced with raising children, whether they are mine or not is a moot point...yes, I would do anything for them, BUT I would never turn into a close-minded, over reactionary and general cunt like yourself.

Just like the ASSUMPTIONS about the subject of this thread, even the TITLE has a GUILTY before proven INNOCENT slant - pitiful really.

An example would be...

What job/profession does the following person have?

A black guy who travels a lot because people really want to see him - he has a posse of people to protect him - his posse is armed and willing to be violent to protect him - the entire USA is familiar with his name and work - he is on many many covers of magazines, including ones that have a black audience - he is loved and hated for his profession - he is one of the most popular black people in USA society - the words he uses always cause someone to complain or get riled up and mad, as well as his words speaking to others that support his profession - many white people are racist due to him being black - the words he uses are always noted and searched for ulterior meanings - his words are topic of debate and many times censored or taken out of context to prove that he is bad - he is always current with the scene in the USA - his words are his power and way to convey his message, even if white people do not approve of his words...









What is your guess - I would bet many said a "hip-hop rapper"... WRONG!















































I just described the POTUS...

A Minor Threat

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 16, 2011 09:42PM

postpoppunk Wrote:
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> I guess postpoppunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does not have have any children of his own.
> Once
> > you have a child you will worry about them
> > everyday. You will do anything to protect their
> > innocent souls.
> >
> > Now please go fuck yourself.
>
>
> You know nothing of me, yet make a conclusion ---
> proving my point perfectly, thank you.
>
> I am very versed and experienced with raising
> children, whether they are mine or not is a moot
> point...yes, I would do anything for them, BUT I
> would never turn into a close-minded, over
> reactionary and general cunt like yourself.
>
> Just like the ASSUMPTIONS about the subject of
> this thread, even the TITLE has a GUILTY before
> proven INNOCENT slant - pitiful really.
>

Fuck that Law & Order bullshit. That shit is for court, nobody gives a shit about that bullshit when it comes to child-less men hanging out around kids. I watch every adult at BLP that appears to be alone. And if I think they're alone I will swoop right up next to them and say 'hahahaha these crazy kids, which one is yours?' and if they don't have one present, my tone changes and I would stab a mother fucker in his neck if I thought his intentions were trending towards the criminal tip against my kid or anyone's.

That's my right isn't it? To question anybody I want about why the fuck they are at a playground with no kids hanging out like a queer ass perv? America rox.

Luckily, in America, as much as pedophiles have a right to stalk my kids I have the same rights to stab them in the neck if need be. I don't have to ask any questions, no pass go, no collect $200. God bless America.


> An example would be...
>

You're example is gay. NoBamajamas is far from the one of the most popular black people is USA society. He's behind every black ball player in every balled sport, then musicians, then actors, then Jesse Jackson, then PajamaBamas.

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It seems to me, at the end of the day, with all that being said, that's not necessary.
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: mustbeanigger ()
Date: December 17, 2011 01:32AM

1. ^^^^^^^^^^^this "spook" is an ignorant bitch

2. go ahead and stab them, you go to jail, one less criminal on the streets

3. you do NOT approach any men that are around the kids, you lie

4. you must be black typing in ebonics

5. postpoppunk is right, just admit it, even if you do not like it

6. Obama is the most well known person (black/white/green/purple) in the world, educate yourself

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Creeper ()
Date: December 17, 2011 07:20AM

creeper...Creeper...CREEPER!!!


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: December 17, 2011 08:23AM

mustbeanigger Wrote:
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> 1. ^^^^^^^^^^^this "spook" is an ignorant bitch
>
> 2. go ahead and stab them, you go to jail, one
> less criminal on the streets
>


Your ignorance of the law is astounding. You must be a child with no life experience, who lives with their parents, pays for nothing, and your only social outlet is this site.


> 3. you do NOT approach any men that are around the
> kids, you lie
>


Really? You don't talk to adults out in public? That proves you're a dorky, immature shut-in with no life, and no social skills.


> 4. you must be black typing in ebonics
>
> 5. postpoppunk is right, just admit it, even if
> you do not like it
>


Negative. Wrong is wrong. And I am right. You're a social midget. Your posts make that so fucking obvious.


> 6. Obama is the most well known person
> (black/white/green/purple) in the world, educate
> yourself


Prove it, cry-baby. Your speculation is comical.


It's a little shocking how aggravated you are getting at my posts in defense of children and distaste for creepy men who hang around children. My suspicion of you grows. Let me know the next time you're headed to BLP so I can interrogate your bitch ass.

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It seems to me, at the end of the day, with all that being said, that's not necessary.
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: punk is a hypocryte ()
Date: December 17, 2011 09:59AM

postpoppunk Wrote:
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> I guess postpoppunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does not have have any children of his own.
> Once
> > you have a child you will worry about them
> > everyday. You will do anything to protect their
> > innocent souls.
> >
> > Now please go fuck yourself.
>
>
> You know nothing of me, yet make a conclusion ---
> proving my point perfectly, thank you.
>
> I am very versed and experienced with raising
> children, whether they are mine or not is a moot
> point...yes, I would do anything for them, BUT I
> would never turn into a close-minded, over
> reactionary and general cunt like yourself.
>
> Just like the ASSUMPTIONS about the subject of
> this thread, even the TITLE has a GUILTY before
> proven INNOCENT slant - pitiful really.
>
> An example would be...
>
> What job/profession does the following person
> have?
>
> A black guy who travels a lot because people
> really want to see him - he has a posse of people
> to protect him - his posse is armed and willing to
> be violent to protect him - the entire USA is
> familiar with his name and work - he is on many
> many covers of magazines, including ones that have
> a black audience - he is loved and hated for his
> profession - he is one of the most popular black
> people in USA society - the words he uses always
> cause someone to complain or get riled up and mad,
> as well as his words speaking to others that
> support his profession - many white people are
> racist due to him being black - the words he uses
> are always noted and searched for ulterior
> meanings - his words are topic of debate and many
> times censored or taken out of context to prove
> that he is bad - he is always current with the
> scene in the USA - his words are his power and way
> to convey his message, even if white people do not
> approve of his words...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> What is your guess - I would bet many said a
> "hip-hop rapper"... WRONG!
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>
> I just described the POTUS...

Just a classless (eg: use of "C"), pontificating jerk. Yeah, we can recognize a description of POTUS. Add not cleaver to that.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 17, 2011 10:03AM

postpoppunk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I guess postpoppunk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does not have have any children of his own.
> Once
> > you have a child you will worry about them
> > everyday. You will do anything to protect their
> > innocent souls.
> >
> > Now please go fuck yourself.
>
>
> You know nothing of me, yet make a conclusion ---
> proving my point perfectly, thank you.
>
> I am very versed and experienced with raising
> children, whether they are mine or not is a moot
> point...yes, I would do anything for them, BUT I
> would never turn into a close-minded, over
> reactionary and general cunt like yourself.
>
> Just like the ASSUMPTIONS about the subject of
> this thread, even the TITLE has a GUILTY before
> proven INNOCENT slant - pitiful really.
>
> An example would be...
>
> What job/profession does the following person
> have?
>
> A black guy who travels a lot because people
> really want to see him - he has a posse of people
> to protect him - his posse is armed and willing to
> be violent to protect him - the entire USA is
> familiar with his name and work - he is on many
> many covers of magazines, including ones that have
> a black audience - he is loved and hated for his
> profession - he is one of the most popular black
> people in USA society - the words he uses always
> cause someone to complain or get riled up and mad,
> as well as his words speaking to others that
> support his profession - many white people are
> racist due to him being black - the words he uses
> are always noted and searched for ulterior
> meanings - his words are topic of debate and many
> times censored or taken out of context to prove
> that he is bad - he is always current with the
> scene in the USA - his words are his power and way
> to convey his message, even if white people do not
> approve of his words...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What is your guess - I would bet many said a
> "hip-hop rapper"... WRONG!
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tl;dr

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: think that's him ()
Date: December 17, 2011 10:23AM

The picture posted does seem to be the same person I saw driving around Orange Hunt/Houndmaster. When driving, he seemed to wear a more perverted smirk, like he had some secret. Seriously, it was his expression and slow, conspicuous cruising that was really creepy.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 17, 2011 11:43AM

I don't know why, given the stories posted, no one can get a picture of him in his car after a few days. Smacks of exaggeration and hyperbole.

This thread shows just how little effort people will put forth to protect their kids. Rather than go take a picture of the guy in his car which would be very useful, they are so lazy they post pics of other people they can manage to pull up on Google. The level of apathy is so high I can hardly believe it.

You all say you confronted him but you can't take a picture? Sounds to me like they didn't really confront him in person, or their idea of "confronting" someone in real life is posting something here.



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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 17, 2011 01:48PM

justsayin Wrote:
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> aaaaaaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The police have great authority, and have
> > to exercise that authority very carefully so
> that
> > they do not deprive someone of their
> > constitutional rights of liberty, freedom from
> > unreasonable searches, etc. If the individual
> has
> > not committed a crime, there is little they can
> > do. That does not translate to the individual
> not
> > being a threat, however.
>
> Agreed. Police never overstep their bounds when
> they want to, especially in Fairfax County and
> they should extend that same restraint with
> potential kid-touchers.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2
> ,file=2830,filename=fcpdrip.jpg


Who's Ashely McIntosh? I know what happened with the other two.

Edit: Oh. Found it. I think I misspelled her name the first search.



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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: ConcernedInCrosspointe ()
Date: December 17, 2011 02:02PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> justsayin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > aaaaaaaaa Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The police have great authority, and have
> > > to exercise that authority very carefully so
> > that
> > > they do not deprive someone of their
> > > constitutional rights of liberty, freedom
> from
> > > unreasonable searches, etc. If the individual
> > has
> > > not committed a crime, there is little they
> can
> > > do. That does not translate to the individual
> > not
> > > being a threat, however.
> >
> > Agreed. Police never overstep their bounds
> when
> > they want to, especially in Fairfax County and
> > they should extend that same restraint with
> > potential kid-touchers.
> >
> >
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2
>
> > ,file=2830,filename=fcpdrip.jpg
>
>
> Who's Ashely McIntosh? I know what happened with
> the other two.
>
> Edit: Oh. Found it. I think I misspelled her name
> the first search.

Do tell. Who are they?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: pppp ()
Date: December 17, 2011 02:15PM

postpop nailed all of you

you do nothing, never have aproached the person, just assume he is bad because you are scared, think stabbing someone is legal, compare "talking to adults" as the same as confronting someone, start name calling when you have been owned

talk,talk,talk is all you do, nothing more, no pics nothing!

he/she stated a perfect case in the first post, you can not find anything that is not true and makes sense

you all just mad tho

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Mr. Insensitive ()
Date: December 18, 2011 07:41AM

think that's him Wrote:
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> The picture posted does seem to be the same person
> I saw driving around Orange Hunt/Houndmaster.
> When driving, he seemed to wear a more perverted
> smirk, like he had some secret. Seriously, it
> was his expression and slow, conspicuous cruising
> that was really creepy.

Have you tried burning his house down? That's worked in the past.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Demasculate Braun ()
Date: December 18, 2011 09:45AM

Burning down a house doesn't do anything.

There are medications or medical procedures that they give serial pediphiles that demasculate them. His urges to masturbate while watching young kids will reduce drastically!!!







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> think that's him Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The picture posted does seem to be the same
> person
> > I saw driving around Orange Hunt/Houndmaster.
> > When driving, he seemed to wear a more
> perverted
> > smirk, like he had some secret. Seriously, it
> > was his expression and slow, conspicuous
> cruising
> > that was really creepy.
>
> Have you tried burning his house down? That's
> worked in the past.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr ()
Date: December 18, 2011 11:04AM

We can burn a cross on his lawn.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Letter Campaign ()
Date: December 18, 2011 05:19PM

If this creeper is still out there watching young kids,
send him a letter.

His address is posted in this thread.

Tell him that you are tired of seeing one of his 3 fugly cars in your neighborhood. If he begins to get enough letters from people, he may realize that people don't want him watching their kids.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: lsd ()
Date: December 18, 2011 11:25PM

Turn around is fair play. I propose that legions of concerned citizens drive to this Braun guy's house and park. Repeatedly. Just hang out there. Drive by, slow down and take pictures. Night and day. See how he likes it. Walk by and stop in front of his house.

What? You are not doing anything wrong.

I am doing this tomorrow.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: December 19, 2011 01:02AM

Demasculate Braun Wrote:
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> There are medications or medical procedures that
> they give serial pediphiles that demasculate them.
> His urges to masturbate while watching young
> kids will reduce drastically!!!

Who said anything about him masturbating --- more assumptions from the ignorant.

A Minor Threat

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: December 19, 2011 01:04AM

lsd Wrote:
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> Drive by, slow down and take pictures.

Who said anything about him taking pictures --- which would be perfectly legal.

Chalk another ignorant fuck that will do NOTHING.

Bunch of over reaction from the timid masses.

A Minor Threat

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: December 19, 2011 07:44AM

lsd Wrote:
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> Turn around is fair play.

"Turnabout is fair play". Turn around is what you did when your grade school teachers tried to teach you how to read.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: neighborhoodmom ()
Date: December 19, 2011 09:48AM

This man has been driving around Crosspointe and stops to watch children play. He drives a dark green Toyota Camry LE tag # XPL 5347, a silver Camry and a green Highlander
Attachments:
crosspoint.bmp

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: average joe ()
Date: December 19, 2011 09:58AM

That car looks purple... are we sure that is the right person? A purple car won't be too hard to spot though, I hope "dark green" is incorrect.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: EngineNoise ()
Date: December 19, 2011 11:28AM

I've seen the same thing from a woman in mini-van in the area. She sits in her mini-van and also stands around watching kids all day. Really creeps me out. It's a grey or blue mini-van.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Yes, that is Him ()
Date: December 19, 2011 05:32PM

That's the creep that used to sit in the Culdesac and watch the little ones play.

If an adult was present, in the yard, he would move on.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 20, 2011 11:54AM

Yes, that is Him Wrote:
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> That's the creep that used to sit in the Culdesac
> and watch the little ones play.
>
> If an adult was present, in the yard, he would
> move on.

All signs, as described by witnesses, point to this individual being up to no good. Sure, there's a chance he's just innocently enjoying watching children play, but I would give that about 0.1% chance. And most people with good judgment would recognize that even if their intentions were pure, their actions in this case are rightfully perceived as highly suspicious. Therefore, they would not persist in doing it.

The police not detaining this individual after questioning him does not mean he must be okay. To those who brought up individual cases of police misconduct, that's completely irrelevant. There are always bad apples in a police force and mistakes made, but it of course does not mean all police routinely violate constitutional rights. Most do not. And that is a solid explanation of why they cannot and have not done anything with this individual, yet.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Nota Lawyer ()
Date: December 20, 2011 11:59AM

aaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> ...he's just innocently enjoying watching
> children play...

He's sitting in a car on the street. Other than a hysteric post here there isn't even any evidence he's "watching kids".

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: cleaningup ()
Date: December 20, 2011 12:02PM

aaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> To
> those who brought up individual cases of police
> misconduct, that's completely irrelevant. There
> are always bad apples in a police force and
> mistakes made, but it of course does not mean all
> police routinely violate constitutional rights.
> Most do not. And that is a solid explanation of
> why they cannot and have not done anything with
> this individual, yet.

^^^^^^^ anon FCPD post.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaaa ()
Date: December 20, 2011 12:10PM

Nota Lawyer Wrote:
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> aaaaaaaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...he's just innocently enjoying watching
> > children play...
>
> He's sitting in a car on the street. Other than a
> hysteric post here there isn't even any evidence
> he's "watching kids".

I guess no evidence he's watching kids other than multiple eyewitnesses saying he's watching kids. And leaving when approached. Oh wait, that is evidence...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: We saw him today ()
Date: December 26, 2011 11:50PM

I saw him driving today. he was moving very slowly down the street near Newington Forest School. Scoping out the basketball court in the wooded area.

No kids were out today!
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> Does anyone know James Braun AKA the "Crosspointe
> Creeper"?
> apparently he drives around and watches kids play
> outside, or watches them walk around...
>
> He drives 3 different cars, all Toyotas.
>
> Our local neighborhoods are watching him.
>
> Why doesn't he just back off?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: postpoppunk ()
Date: December 27, 2011 12:15AM

EngineNoise Wrote:
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> I've seen the same thing from a woman in mini-van
> in the area. She sits in her mini-van and also
> stands around watching kids all day. Really
> creeps me out. It's a grey or blue mini-van.


A WOMAN doing this will not cause the same fake-ass tough posing of the anonymous posters here on FFXU.

Everyone who has seen this person has done NOTHING.
Everyone who post here has done NOTHING.
All the talk here results in NOTHING.
The police, supposedly, talking to this person has done NOTHING.
The fake "tough-guys" here have done NOTHING.
The parents, supposedly, who are present when this person is there do NOTHING.
All the talk of "what they WOULD do" has equated to NOTHING.

Whoever started this thread is guilty of doing NOTHING, except falsely accusing a person of criminal acts = a CRIME.

Cowards and prejudice rules the posters here --- fucking scared little rabbits running in circles crying about the sky falling. Pathetic.

I hope one day soon, this person you have all convicted already, gets out of the car and walks right up to the playground and takes a seat on a bench --- then one of you ignorant fucks assaults him...YOU get arrested and he sues you for everything you have - moves into your McMansion' and LIVES in the same neighborhood that is "watching" him...that would be a great justice done in the name of your unfounded lynching of another human-being.

A Minor Threat

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: GP5K ()
Date: January 10, 2012 01:32PM

It looks like Karl Rove.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: 123 ()
Date: January 10, 2012 03:41PM

The neighbors have done something. Tried to talk to him, called the police on him, etc. If you try to approach his car, he takes off. The police have gone to his house multiple times to talk to him and let him know his behavior is upsetting to parents and he still continues to do it. He is seen a minimum of 3x a week in Crosspointe/Triple Ridge. He hangs out by the playgrounds, the schools and on the street if kids are playing in the yard. He has even been seen at the local pool parking lots in the summer and near the elementary schools. No, he has not done anything wrong, but if he is so innocent, then why does he take off the second a parent tries to approach his car?

He also switches cars and has been seen wearing a wig. His neighbors have confirmed the wig wearing as well.

He may be innocent but he acts guilty.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: 123 ()
Date: January 10, 2012 03:45PM

Really, go after him, show him a gun, threaten him? That is exactly what he wants so he can turn around and sue these parents. Besides, no one gets a chance to approach him, the second he sees someone bigger than a 2nd grader approach his car, he takes off.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: aaaaaaa ()
Date: January 10, 2012 04:13PM

123 Wrote:
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> Really, go after him, show him a gun, threaten
> him? That is exactly what he wants so he can turn
> around and sue these parents. Besides, no one
> gets a chance to approach him, the second he sees
> someone bigger than a 2nd grader approach his car,
> he takes off.


Ah, this thread has been resurrected...

Really, what's the problem here? Looks like approaching him is accomplishing exactly what you want -- it gets rid of him. No need to disparage people who have attempted to help your situation by offering suggestions.

Yes, it sucks he's always quick to disappear only to return again, but that just means you all will have to be very vigilant if you aren't willing to make a stronger statement to this guy. At this point I say either do something about it, or quit complaining about it here. It's tiresome to see the same complaints about this guy coming back, yet no one apparently takes any meaningful action for fear of "lawsuits" -- the horrors! And do you really think he's trying to goad you into a lawsuit? Anyone who would fail to protect their children for fear of a phantom lawsuit deserves little respect in my eyes.

And to postpoppunk, do you still think this guy is innocently sitting around with only pure intentions?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: January 10, 2012 05:33PM

aaaaaaa Wrote:
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> Really, what's the problem here? Looks like
> approaching him is accomplishing exactly what you
> want -- it gets rid of him.

I have to agree... if he goes away that easily, the one minute of effort a neighborhood parent has to take would seem to be enough to solve the problem every time until he gets sick of it and moves on to some other neighborhood. Sucks that people have to take that effort, but it seems to be a more effective solution than simply wishing the guy would stay away and pulling the police away from murderers and tinted window violators.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Nota Lawyer ()
Date: January 10, 2012 05:59PM

justsayin Wrote:
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> ...Sucks that people have to take that effort...

Given the total lack of illegality on the part of the "culprit", I'd say they don't have to go to that effort.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: 123 ()
Date: January 11, 2012 03:59PM

The police have told us TO CALL THEM when he is seen in our neighborhood. We are vigilant in watching out for him but many of us have JOBS and can't be staked out on our lawns all day.

It's tiresome to see the same complaints about this guy coming back, yet no one apparently takes any meaningful action for fear of "lawsuits" -- the horrors!

If you are so immune to lawsuits and want to put your home at risk then come to the neighborhood and do something. The police told us that this may be his motive... to get someone to hit him so he can sue.

If you are tired of this thread, why do you keep coming back to it. I hope Braun targets your neighborhood next since you seen to know exactly how to handle him.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Kendra ()
Date: January 11, 2012 05:12PM

‘Crosspointe Creeper’ No Danger, Officer Says

By Rachel Leonard

A man rumored to be a child molester who frequently observes other people in the Crosspointe community near Fairfax Station appears to pose no danger to local residents, a Fairfax County police officer said Tuesday.

West Springfield District police Capt. Joe Hill said the “Crosspointe Creeper,” who has driven around the community and watched residents for more than two years, is not breaking any laws and that the case did not warrant hysteria. Allegations of child molestation were unsubstantiated, he said.

“None of that is true,” said Hill, speaking before a South County Federation meeting Tuesday at South County Secondary School in Lorton. “We ran his record. We know who this guy is. We’ve encountered him several times – folks call us, and we go out there and talk to him. He has no criminal record, never been accused of anything, has a government job – for all intents and purposes, a very upstanding citizen.

“He just has a quirk in that he likes to go into these neighborhoods with large homes, beautifully decorated for the holidays, and he likes to look at these homes.”

Hill said he had spoken with individuals spreading rumors that the man was a child molester and asked them to stop, and that he also spoke Tuesday with the man, who has agreed not to return to the community, in part for fear of his own personal safety. Neighborhood associations had expressed concerns about the man.

http://fairfaxstation.patch.com/articles/crosspointe-creeper-no-danger-officer-says-ee2f0782

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Nota Lawyer ()
Date: January 11, 2012 05:35PM

Kendra Wrote:
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> West Springfield District police Capt. Joe Hill
> said the “Crosspointe Creeper,” who has driven
> around the community and watched residents for
> more than two years, is not breaking any laws and
> that the case did not warrant hysteria.

Bet that doesn't end it.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: January 11, 2012 08:26PM

123 Wrote:
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> The police have told us TO CALL THEM when he is
> seen in our neighborhood. We are vigilant in
> watching out for him but many of us have JOBS and
> can't be staked out on our lawns all day.

Then why are your kids out there? If they are old enough to be out there alone they are old enough to run away if a stranger approaches. If they are too young to do that, why would you leave them unattended anywhere? And if your kids are not there, this guy is obviously no danger to them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2012 08:29PM by justsayin.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: January 11, 2012 08:29PM

Kendra Wrote:
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> Hill said he had spoken with individuals spreading
> rumors that the man was a child molester and asked
> them to stop

We'll see if they listen. If they have personal concerns for their kids, protecting them is rediculously easy to do. Personally I'd worry more about the child kidnapper they wouldn't see in the woods because they are too busy looking at this guy.

But sadly I think the drive to create hysteria through exaggeration and hyperbole as I said earlier is overcoming sensible measures to keep children safe. Let's hope Captain Hill's message gets through.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MisterSpookey ()
Date: January 11, 2012 08:34PM

Please, everyone, for the love of all things holy, please, please, please, think of the children! The children! Why will none of you do what is necessary to think fo the children!

Seriously though, the dude has been driving around there for TWO YEARS? I wonder how many minutes he would be allowed to do that if a Springfield District cop lived in that neighborhood. Cops = hypocrites. I would be too though if I could shoot people, lock them up, and or beat them senseless without repercussions.

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It seems to me, at the end of the day, with all that being said, that's not necessary.
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Vigil ()
Date: January 12, 2012 08:45AM

justsayin Wrote:
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> 123 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The police have told us TO CALL THEM when he is
> > seen in our neighborhood. We are vigilant in
> > watching out for him but many of us have JOBS
> and
> > can't be staked out on our lawns all day.
>
> Then why are your kids out there? If they are old
> enough to be out there alone they are old enough
> to run away if a stranger approaches. If they are
> too young to do that, why would you leave them
> unattended anywhere? And if your kids are not
> there, this guy is obviously no danger to them.

Well Justsayin, My daughter is thireen. Pretty sure she could run away. Doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the creeper on my street. That perv could could over power her in an instant if/when he wanted to.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: January 12, 2012 10:13AM

I was replying to a comment that suggested adults in the neighborhood should take action to be on the lookout and call police if seen for a guy the police have now taken time to utilize a press event over to ease the evident overdone frenzy.

As I said earlier, if you are concerned then be out there when your kids are. But asking other neighborhood adults to focus attention on someone the police have stated is not a danger is out of line when you are the one with (according to the police) the overblown fear. By all means, be outside when your daughter is at the playground if it makes you feel better, no one is stopping you.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Put YOUR life on the line ()
Date: January 12, 2012 11:36AM

We had a guy like that in our neighborhood a few years ago. Was scaring the old ladies and young moms. Would drive very slowly through the neighborhood just after the kids got home from school. Police said they didn't have time to do stakeouts if there was no crime being committed.

I walked up to his pickup one afternoon and he stopped and rolled down the window. Asked him what he was doing. He said he was just drinking his after-work beer, which he showed me. I told him that he was scaring the old ladies and to please go somewhere else.

Never saw him again.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: PinkValentony ()
Date: February 14, 2012 07:45PM

Wonder how many valentine's our Creeper was giving out today?

Any sitings in recent weeks?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Ogien ()
Date: February 16, 2012 12:59AM

PinkValentony Wrote:
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> Wonder how many valentine's our Creeper was giving
> out today?
>
> Any sitings in recent weeks?


You're an idiot aren't you?

I ask because you obviously didn't read the press release the Police put out.

Just for you, in hopes that you'll learn something, I'm going to repost the exact same text that Kendra posted earlier in the thread.

ATTENTION IDIOTS: (That part was mine)

‘Crosspointe Creeper’ No Danger, Officer Says

By Rachel Leonard

A man rumored to be a child molester who frequently observes other people in the Crosspointe community near Fairfax Station appears to pose no danger to local residents, a Fairfax County police officer said Tuesday.

West Springfield District police Capt. Joe Hill said the “Crosspointe Creeper,” who has driven around the community and watched residents for more than two years, is not breaking any laws and that the case did not warrant hysteria. Allegations of child molestation were unsubstantiated, he said.

“None of that is true,” said Hill, speaking before a South County Federation meeting Tuesday at South County Secondary School in Lorton. “We ran his record. We know who this guy is. We’ve encountered him several times – folks call us, and we go out there and talk to him. He has no criminal record, never been accused of anything, has a government job – for all intents and purposes, a very upstanding citizen.

“He just has a quirk in that he likes to go into these neighborhoods with large homes, beautifully decorated for the holidays, and he likes to look at these homes.”

Hill said he had spoken with individuals spreading rumors that the man was a child molester and asked them to stop, and that he also spoke Tuesday with the man, who has agreed not to return to the community, in part for fear of his own personal safety. Neighborhood associations had expressed concerns about the man.

http://fairfaxstation.patch.com/articles/crosspointe-creeper-no-danger-officer-says-ee2f0782

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MaryNee ()
Date: April 05, 2012 03:52PM

Just a reminder, the creeper will be in your neighborhoods admiring the blooming flowers near the basketball hoops or grassy lawns!


>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > think that's him Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The picture posted does seem to be the same
> > person
> > > I saw driving around Orange Hunt/Houndmaster.
>
> > > When driving, he seemed to wear a more
> > perverted
> > > smirk, like he had some secret. Seriously,
> it
> > > was his expression and slow, conspicuous
> > cruising
> > > that was really creepy.
> >
> > Have you tried burning his house down? That's
> > worked in the past.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: NRA 75 ()
Date: April 05, 2012 04:37PM

It is Easter, great time to "resurrect" an old thread, that didn't need it. There are plenty of whackos out there, the ones to worry about-watch Dateline To Catch a Predator. Its much more likely to be a non-creepy looking homie.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Concerned citizen ()
Date: April 06, 2012 11:32AM

I drove by this house last night. It is on a col de sac in and that is a nice neighborhood. I think his one is the one with a USA flag in front but couldn't get close enough to see the house #. I didn't see any of the cars mentioned earlier.

Sincerely,
Concerned citizen

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 06, 2012 03:17PM


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: head scratcher ()
Date: April 06, 2012 05:29PM

Concerned citizen Wrote:
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> I drove by this house last night. It is on a col
> de sac in and that is a nice neighborhood. I
> think his one is the one with a USA flag in front
> but couldn't get close enough to see the house #.
> I didn't see any of the cars mentioned earlier.
>
> Sincerely,
> Concerned citizen

Told by the police to leave him alone because he is totally innocent, you insist on stalking him.

Kettle, pot, huh?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MaryNee ()
Date: April 07, 2012 08:56PM

I am not sure if he has any kids.

Happy Egg Hunting Xpoint creeper


> > -----
> > > Does not have have any children of his own.
> > Once
> > > you have a child you will worry about them
> > > everyday. You will do anything to protect
> their
> > > innocent souls.
> > >
> > > Now please go fuck yourself.
> >
> >
> > You know nothing of me, yet make a conclusion
> ---
> > proving my point perfectly, thank you.
> >
> > I am very versed and experienced with raising
> > children, whether they are mine or not is a
> moot
> > point...yes, I would do anything for them, BUT
> I
> > would never turn into a close-minded, over
> > reactionary and general cunt like yourself.
> >
> > Just like the ASSUMPTIONS about the subject of
> > this thread, even the TITLE has a GUILTY before
> > proven INNOCENT slant - pitiful really.
> >
> > An example would be...
> >
> > What job/profession does the following person
> > have?
> >
> > A black guy who travels a lot because people
> > really want to see him - he has a posse of
> people
> > to protect him - his posse is armed and willing
> to
> > be violent to protect him - the entire USA is
> > familiar with his name and work - he is on many
> > many covers of magazines, including ones that
> have
> > a black audience - he is loved and hated for
> his
> > profession - he is one of the most popular
> black
> > people in USA society - the words he uses
> always
> > cause someone to complain or get riled up and
> mad,
> > as well as his words speaking to others that
> > support his profession - many white people are
> > racist due to him being black - the words he
> uses
> > are always noted and searched for ulterior
> > meanings - his words are topic of debate and
> many
> > times censored or taken out of context to prove
> > that he is bad - he is always current with the
> > scene in the USA - his words are his power and
> way
> > to convey his message, even if white people do
> not
> > approve of his words...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What is your guess - I would bet many said a
> > "hip-hop rapper"... WRONG!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just described the POTUS...
>
> Just a classless (eg: use of "C"), pontificating
> jerk. Yeah, we can recognize a description of
> POTUS. Add not cleaver to that.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Lisa1999 ()
Date: April 08, 2012 12:08PM

This guy hangs around the pool in the summer...looking at holiday decorations...HA!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 09, 2012 01:27PM

yeah, how DARE that guy

be out on a public street

like that

he needs to get himself a hoodie

LoLz

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Creeper ()
Date: April 10, 2012 07:29PM

Creeper...CReeper...CREEPER!!!
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: watchout!! ()
Date: April 10, 2012 08:26PM

so do you all let him know you are watching him constantly, or just feel like cool secret agents watching from a distance while he doesn't know?

get in the fools face, take pics and vids UP CLOSE. dont just sit there and let him watch enjoying himself lol. shit, keep a fold up dress screen in the trunk and just stick it on the sidewalk blocking his window.

be active, perv is within the law not doing anything wrong . . being a good citizen doesn't mean doing nothing. Plenty you and your concerned neighbors could do to divert the man while still being within the law yourselves.

ya'll gettin OLD, have some fun with it be creative. or just wait til something happens, that's cool too.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2012 08:05AM

watchout!! Wrote:
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> so do you all let him know you are watching him
> constantly, or just feel like cool secret agents
> watching from a distance while he doesn't know?
>
> get in the fools face, take pics and vids UP
> CLOSE. dont just sit there and let him watch
> enjoying himself lol. shit, keep a fold up dress
> screen in the trunk and just stick it on the
> sidewalk blocking his window.
>
> be active, perv is within the law not doing
> anything wrong . . being a good citizen doesn't
> mean doing nothing. Plenty you and your concerned
> neighbors could do to divert the man while still
> being within the law yourselves.
>
> ya'll gettin OLD, have some fun with it be
> creative. or just wait til something happens,
> that's cool too.

Oh, this thread is really turning into a total buncha bullshit.

This creeper, hasnt committed a crime

yet y'all talking about taking away his rights

his AMERICAN FREEDOM RIGHTS

just cause of what you THINK he may do?

FUCK THAT

and FUCK YOU if you think it's cool to harass someone who's not committing a crime just cause you THINK they may.

If he aint on yr property, leave him the fuck alone. As long as it's a state street, hoss has a right to be in yr neighborhood.

If he's in yr neighborhood and you want to know why, go up and ask.

NOT FUCKING BRAIN SURGERY, PEOPLE!

On Easter, I was out in Luray and stopped in Amissville to take a picture of a friend of mine's old house for her (she lives in Santa Monica). Anywho, while I was there, a neighbor came up to me to ask what I was doing. Even though I didnt have to, I introduced myself, explained what I was doing and why I was doing it. Told the dude I understood completely why he approached me and let him know it was TOTALLY COOL by me that he did. He then left and I finished my crap and left myself.

This is what we adults call "BEING ADULT". And sometimes, it involved this nifty thing called "communication".
It's a much better tool than this passive-aggressive bullshit y'all Zimmermans keep playing at

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Creeped out by the Creeper ()
Date: April 11, 2012 08:25AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> watchout!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so do you all let him know you are watching him
> > constantly, or just feel like cool secret
> agents
> > watching from a distance while he doesn't know?
> >
> > get in the fools face, take pics and vids UP
> > CLOSE. dont just sit there and let him watch
> > enjoying himself lol. shit, keep a fold up
> dress
> > screen in the trunk and just stick it on the
> > sidewalk blocking his window.
> >
> > be active, perv is within the law not doing
> > anything wrong . . being a good citizen doesn't
> > mean doing nothing. Plenty you and your
> concerned
> > neighbors could do to divert the man while
> still
> > being within the law yourselves.
> >
> > ya'll gettin OLD, have some fun with it be
> > creative. or just wait til something happens,
> > that's cool too.
>
> Oh, this thread is really turning into a total
> buncha bullshit.
>
> This creeper, hasnt committed a crime
>
> yet y'all talking about taking away his rights
>
> his AMERICAN FREEDOM RIGHTS
>
> just cause of what you THINK he may do?
>
> FUCK THAT
>
> and FUCK YOU if you think it's cool to harass
> someone who's not committing a crime just cause
> you THINK they may.
>
> If he aint on yr property, leave him the fuck
> alone. As long as it's a state street, hoss has a
> right to be in yr neighborhood.
>
> If he's in yr neighborhood and you want to know
> why, go up and ask.
>
> NOT FUCKING BRAIN SURGERY, PEOPLE!
>
> On Easter, I was out in Luray and stopped in
> Amissville to take a picture of a friend of mine's
> old house for her (she lives in Santa Monica).
> Anywho, while I was there, a neighbor came up to
> me to ask what I was doing. Even though I didnt
> have to, I introduced myself, explained what I was
> doing and why I was doing it. Told the dude I
> understood completely why he approached me and let
> him know it was TOTALLY COOL by me that he did.
> He then left and I finished my crap and left
> myself.
>
> This is what we adults call "BEING ADULT". And
> sometimes, it involved this nifty thing called
> "communication".
> It's a much better tool than this
> passive-aggressive bullshit y'all Zimmermans keep
> playing at

You're so full of shit. This guy is driving into other people's neighborhoods and watching their kids. Everyone should be concerned. If this guy did something, you'd be the first to complain that the "Police should have done more."
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Concerned Neighbor ()
Date: April 11, 2012 09:05AM

Ogien Wrote:
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> PinkValentony Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wonder how many valentine's our Creeper was
> giving
> > out today?
> >
> > Any sitings in recent weeks?
>
>
> You're an idiot aren't you?
>
> I ask because you obviously didn't read the press
> release the Police put out.
>
> Just for you, in hopes that you'll learn
> something, I'm going to repost the exact same text
> that Kendra posted earlier in the thread.
>
> ATTENTION IDIOTS: (That part was mine)
>
> ‘Crosspointe Creeper’ No Danger, Officer Says
>
>
> By Rachel Leonard
>
> A man rumored to be a child molester who
> frequently observes other people in the
> Crosspointe community near Fairfax Station appears
> to pose no danger to local residents, a Fairfax
> County police officer said Tuesday.
>
> West Springfield District police Capt. Joe Hill
> said the “Crosspointe Creeper,” who has driven
> around the community and watched residents for
> more than two years, is not breaking any laws and
> that the case did not warrant hysteria.
> Allegations of child molestation were
> unsubstantiated, he said.
>
> “None of that is true,” said Hill, speaking
> before a South County Federation meeting Tuesday
> at South County Secondary School in Lorton. “We
> ran his record. We know who this guy is. We’ve
> encountered him several times – folks call us,
> and we go out there and talk to him. He has no
> criminal record, never been accused of anything,
> has a government job – for all intents and
> purposes, a very upstanding citizen.
>
> “He just has a quirk in that he likes to go
> into these neighborhoods with large homes,
> beautifully decorated for the holidays, and he
> likes to look at these homes.”
>
> Hill said he had spoken with individuals
> spreading rumors that the man was a child molester
> and asked them to stop, and that he also spoke
> Tuesday with the man, who has agreed not to return
> to the community, in part for fear of his own
> personal safety. Neighborhood associations had
> expressed concerns about the man.
>
> http://fairfaxstation.patch.com/articles/crosspoin
> te-creeper-no-danger-officer-says-ee2f0782

My understanding is that he continues to enter the community now that the weather has improved. I understand that he has no criminal background, but why would the police come out and say "there is no danger"? If I see this guy hanging out in the neighborhood, I expect the police to look into it. I paid for my house and the HOA fee's, and my taxes. I expect to raise my family in a community where I don't have to worry about strange men driving around somebody else's neighborhood, looking at their kids. I've talked with other parents and the guy has been seen watching kids. If the county won't do something about it, then we will.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: KMoore1114 ()
Date: April 11, 2012 09:10AM

This story leads people to believe that the Crosspointe "creeper" only likes to look at large homes decorated for the holidays, when in fact he has been driving through our community for almost 2 years now and oddly enough, primarily at the elementary school release time. Yes, people should not label him a child molester, nor should they engage him in any way. But, our community does have the right to watch for any suspicious activity and this certainly qualifies. Why does he choose to continue to drive though our community at the time the children get out of school? If he likes "large homes, beautifully decorated" why hasn't he felt the need to drive through South Run or other communities and be noticed. He continues to harass our neighborhood with his disturbing presence. What would you do about someone who drives slowly and watches you in two different cars? That's right, he even changes cars to do his "drives looking at lovely houses". We have the right to be watchful and make sure suspicious activity is reported. Just because he has "a government job and no criminal activity" does not let him off the hook for his odd and disturbing behavior.

My neighbors have met with the police multiple times. My friends who have actually spoken with this man have not told me that he has been back recently to our part of the community. I'm wondering why the police said they spoke with him Tuesday unless he was in another area of Crosspointe and someone complained again about him. As far as I know he never agreed in the past to stay away.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Beware the Creeper! ()
Date: April 11, 2012 10:28AM

Scooby Doo where are you???
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2012 10:37AM

Creeped out by the Creeper Wrote:


>
> You're so full of shit. This guy is driving into
> other people's neighborhoods and watching their
> kids. Everyone should be concerned. If this guy
> did something, you'd be the first to complain that
> the "Police should have done more."

no, I'm not (at least this time LoLz)

the police have already been involved with this guy and cleared him of any wrongdoing. He's got the right to be there. If you have a little white sign with numbers on yr stop sign at the end of the street, then it's a state road and you cant tell creeper dude, me, or ANYBODY ELSE that they cant be on it.

I'm not gonna take someone's rights away when they arent committing a crime, just cause I THINK they are suspicious. That's fucked up.

Like I said - if the neighborhood is seriously worried so much, just talk to the guy when he's there. Go up to his car and hang out with him. If he dont talk back, just keep an eye on him. Aint brain surgery.

I'm hoping Crosspointe aint degenerated into this yet...............


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: TheNorthman ()
Date: April 11, 2012 03:01PM

Put YOUR life on the line Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> We had a guy like that in our neighborhood a few
> years ago. Was scaring the old ladies and young
> moms. Would drive very slowly through the
> neighborhood just after the kids got home from
> school. Police said they didn't have time to do
> stakeouts if there was no crime being committed.
>
> I walked up to his pickup one afternoon and he
> stopped and rolled down the window. Asked him
> what he was doing. He said he was just drinking
> his after-work beer, which he showed me. I told
> him that he was scaring the old ladies and to
> please go somewhere else.
>
> Never saw him again.

See, IMO, that's what most normal people's reactions would be. Once they realize they are drawing negative attention they are likely to stop doing it.

This guy clearly has a couple screws loose but the police are well aware of him, have looked into him and have said that he is not a danger. At this point, it seems the only thing that can be done(short of doing something really drastic and probably illegal) is bitch about this guy on FFXU.

I understand why people are concerned as his behavior is quite unusual. From what's been written here, this guy seems to leave when approached, which is good. He's a pain, but at least a manageable pain. And why would somebody call the cops about something they are clearly well aware of. That's just wasting their time.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Crosspointe Critic ()
Date: April 11, 2012 03:54PM

I was looking at buying a home in Crosspointe but after reading this I'll look elsewhere. Isn't Crosspointe a gated community with a good HOA?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: NRA 75 ()
Date: April 11, 2012 04:07PM

Duh, use common sense. Its not illegal to drive on a public street. If you feel bothered by him, drive around him on such public street. Everyday. There are plenty of at home moms or dads(consulting/child care) who could follow him around legally.

He hasn't committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is he someone to watch? After this long he hasn't done anything other than driving around. Wow.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Neighborhood Watch ()
Date: April 11, 2012 04:11PM

NRA 75 Wrote:
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> Duh, use common sense. Its not illegal to drive on
> a public street. If you feel bothered by him,
> drive around him on such public street. Everyday.
> There are plenty of at home moms or
> dads(consulting/child care) who could follow him
> around legally.
>
> He hasn't committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is he
> someone to watch? After this long he hasn't done
> anything other than driving around. Wow.

No, but the guy is driving by schools when the kids are getting out, hanging out at parks, etc. I'm the one whose paying my HOA fees, Mortgage, and taxes. Why do I have to surrender my peace of mind to some flake driving around in his car in my neighborhood, watching both my kids and my neighbors' kids. Why do we have to suffer?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: What would Brian Schoeneman do? ()
Date: April 11, 2012 04:13PM

And where is Brian Schoeneman at a time like this? Brian Schoeneman what would you do?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: TheNorthman ()
Date: April 11, 2012 04:48PM

Neighborhood Watch Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> NRA 75 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Duh, use common sense. Its not illegal to drive
> on
> > a public street. If you feel bothered by him,
> > drive around him on such public street.
> Everyday.
> > There are plenty of at home moms or
> > dads(consulting/child care) who could follow
> him
> > around legally.
> >
> > He hasn't committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is
> he
> > someone to watch? After this long he hasn't
> done
> > anything other than driving around. Wow.
>
> No, but the guy is driving by schools when the
> kids are getting out, hanging out at parks, etc.
> I'm the one whose paying my HOA fees, Mortgage,
> and taxes. Why do I have to surrender my peace of
> mind to some flake driving around in his car in my
> neighborhood, watching both my kids and my
> neighbors' kids. Why do we have to suffer?

I bet you that guy's driving down the values of homes considerably. Just look at that one poster above. He/she can't be the only one who won't buy there. That's money right out of your pocket.

Its bad enough that, as you so astutely observed, this guy is forcing you to surrender your peace of mind and making you suffer; now he is costing you your hard earned money too!!!!

Solution: have your HOA give this guy money never to return. Consider it an "investment". You don't need this guy coming up in google searches on your neighborhood. I'm actually being half serious here. Offer him, say 500 dollars to go someplace else.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: NRA 75 ()
Date: April 11, 2012 05:23PM

TheNorthman Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Neighborhood Watch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NRA 75 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Duh, use common sense. Its not illegal to
> drive
> > on
> > > a public street. If you feel bothered by him,
> > > drive around him on such public street.
> > Everyday.
> > > There are plenty of at home moms or
> > > dads(consulting/child care) who could follow
> > him
> > > around legally.
> > >
> > > He hasn't committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Is
> > he
> > > someone to watch? After this long he hasn't
> > done
> > > anything other than driving around. Wow.
> >
> > No, but the guy is driving by schools when the
> > kids are getting out, hanging out at parks,
> etc.
> > I'm the one whose paying my HOA fees, Mortgage,
> > and taxes. Why do I have to surrender my peace
> of
> > mind to some flake driving around in his car in
> my
> > neighborhood, watching both my kids and my
> > neighbors' kids. Why do we have to suffer?
>
> I bet you that guy's driving down the values of
> homes considerably. Just look at that one poster
> above. He/she can't be the only one who won't buy
> there. That's money right out of your pocket.
>
> Its bad enough that, as you so astutely observed,
> this guy is forcing you to surrender your peace of
> mind and making you suffer; now he is costing you
> your hard earned money too!!!!
>
> Solution: have your HOA give this guy money never
> to return. Consider it an "investment". You
> don't need this guy coming up in google searches
> on your neighborhood. I'm actually being half
> serious here. Offer him, say 500 dollars to go
> someplace else.


Yup. That seems to be the best idea so far, the HOA probably has loads of cash, and this is chump change. Have him sign a legal document, notarize it, and voila. Then with this in hand, if you really keep an eye out and see him, and can prove it(in civil court much easier), you'll have your money back plus more. That's a winning solution, Northman props!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Release time ()
Date: April 11, 2012 11:24PM

The FCPS security has been involved with the creeper as well.

He is aware of the school bus routes; parks near the bus stop and watches the elementary kids get off the bus.

Neighbors have approached him. He puts his window up and drives away.
He has been captured on video, etc.



I do like the idea of a blue tarp used to obscure his view!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: wrap it up ()
Date: April 12, 2012 07:57AM

If it walks like a duck...

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 12, 2012 08:58AM

VIDEO

VID-
E-
O!!!


VIDEO NOW!!!!!!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 12, 2012 08:59AM

wrap it up Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If it walks like a duck...


shoot it?
LoLz

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Guapo1973 ()
Date: April 12, 2012 12:32PM

TheNorthman Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Neighborhood Watch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NRA 75 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Duh, use common sense. Its not illegal to
> drive
> > on
> > > a public street. If you feel bothered by him,
> > > drive around him on such public street.
> > Everyday.
> > > There are plenty of at home moms or
> > > dads(consulting/child care) who could follow
> > him
> > > around legally.
> > >
> > > He hasn't committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Is
> > he
> > > someone to watch? After this long he hasn't
> > done
> > > anything other than driving around. Wow.
> >
> > No, but the guy is driving by schools when the
> > kids are getting out, hanging out at parks,
> etc.
> > I'm the one whose paying my HOA fees, Mortgage,
> > and taxes. Why do I have to surrender my peace
> of
> > mind to some flake driving around in his car in
> my
> > neighborhood, watching both my kids and my
> > neighbors' kids. Why do we have to suffer?
>
> I bet you that guy's driving down the values of
> homes considerably. Just look at that one poster
> above. He/she can't be the only one who won't buy
> there. That's money right out of your pocket.
>
> Its bad enough that, as you so astutely observed,
> this guy is forcing you to surrender your peace of
> mind and making you suffer; now he is costing you
> your hard earned money too!!!!
>
> Solution: have your HOA give this guy money never
> to return. Consider it an "investment". You
> don't need this guy coming up in google searches
> on your neighborhood. I'm actually being half
> serious here. Offer him, say 500 dollars to go
> someplace else.

He was seen the other day hanging out by the pond watching the kids come home along that trail/bike path over there. I was the lucky one that was stuck behind him because his vehicle was partly in the road and I couldn't get around him. So I blew my horn and flashed my lights. I don't know this for sure, but it looked like his hands were between his legs in the driver's side seat. I can't say with 100% certainty, but it appeared his pants were unbuttoned/unzipped and his button up shirt was partly out. I saw this because I had to pass him because he was creeping along slowly. The vehicle was green Toyota. I was not able to get a license plate number, because he did not have a license plate on the back of his car. All my neighbors told me that's the kind of car he drives.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Rocket Scientist ()
Date: April 12, 2012 12:56PM

I may be wrong, but isn't masturbating in public a crime? Funny, you would think when someone feels they caught this person in the act; they would know to call the police and give a proper statement in a way the poice are able to press charges. Don't second guess what you saw. If you belive what you saw to be a crime, describe it as such to the officer and do not add any confusion or doubt to the report. Don't sat stupid shit like, "I think I saw what looked like to be..." Say I saw his hands inbetween his legs, his pants were unbuttoned, his shirt was pulledd up out of his waist and he was exposed. Be stern, not a pussy. Otherwise, stfu.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: NotARocketScientist ()
Date: April 12, 2012 12:58PM

Apparently, I can't spell today. Still, you get the point?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: gullible ()
Date: April 12, 2012 01:00PM

Rocket Scientist Wrote:
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> I may be wrong

Where you were wrong is believing the post before yours.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Guapo1973 ()
Date: April 12, 2012 01:03PM

Rocket Scientist Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I may be wrong, but isn't masturbating in public a
> crime? Funny, you would think when someone feels
> they caught this person in the act; they would
> know to call the police and give a proper
> statement in a way the poice are able to press
> charges. Don't second guess what you saw. If you
> belive what you saw to be a crime, describe it as
> such to the officer and do not add any confusion
> or doubt to the report. Don't sat stupid shit
> like, "I think I saw what looked like to be..."
> Say I saw his hands inbetween his legs, his pants
> were unbuttoned, his shirt was pulledd up out of
> his waist and he was exposed. Be stern, not a
> pussy. Otherwise, stfu.

I reported this to the HOA and the police (at the HOA's insistence). The police didn't come out, they only took the information over the phone and did not call back. It seemed as though they couldn't be bothered.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 12, 2012 07:34PM

Guapo1973 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I reported this to the HOA and the police (at the
> HOA's insistence). The police didn't come out,
> they only took the information over the phone and
> did not call back. It seemed as though they
> couldn't be bothered.


prolly cause they think you were either imagining it or yr full of shit

eitherway, seems kinda unbelievable that your eyesite is so good that you could see someone whacking off in their car, but you couldnt get a license plate number. Kinda hard to believe someone being able to drive around here without a license plate either.

Dunno what you saw...........but it certainly sounds hard to believe, is all.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: NRA 75 ()
Date: April 12, 2012 09:11PM

Gordon, agreed. Full of shit.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Guapo1973 ()
Date: April 13, 2012 07:21AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Guapo1973 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > I reported this to the HOA and the police (at
> the
> > HOA's insistence). The police didn't come out,
> > they only took the information over the phone
> and
> > did not call back. It seemed as though they
> > couldn't be bothered.
>
>
> prolly cause they think you were either imagining
> it or yr full of shit
>
> eitherway, seems kinda unbelievable that your
> eyesite is so good that you could see someone
> whacking off in their car, but you couldnt get a
> license plate number. Kinda hard to believe
> someone being able to drive around here without a
> license plate either.
>
> Dunno what you saw...........but it certainly
> sounds hard to believe, is all.

Well I said I wasn't 100% sure and that's what I told them. That being said, it was still suspicious. Also I guess I should have mentioned that I drive a small Nissan Truck, so when I passed by I could see into the car. As for the license plate number, he didn't have a license plate on the back of the car and there was not one in the window.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: jailable ()
Date: April 13, 2012 07:27AM

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> Tire slashing sends a message...


...that you don't care if you go to jail.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 13, 2012 07:38AM

Morning, yo

Aint saying it wasnt suspicious. and aint saying you didnt see what you saw (or think you saw............that's something for you to think about too)

All I can say is that if I saw what you described in my neighborhood, and I SERIOUSLY thought for even a second that a grown man was masturbating while viewing children in my neighborhood, I think I would stop what I am doing, block the vehicle, state that the car was incapacitated, and call AAA for assistance. Then I would call the cops, say I saw what I saw (cause either I saw it or I didnt - no "I THINK I SAW IT" crap cause it's either a yes I did, or no I didnt situation (when sex crimes are involved, you cant really kinda "think" you "may" have seen it, y'know?) while I was talking to AAA.
Dude can leave, but his truck is staying, that's for sure. When the cops show up, I'd tell them my car conked out, and as I was pulling over, I saw the owner of this truck whacking off, and I'm willing to stand in front of a judge and tell him/her I saw the dude whacking off while going by.


I'd also get his VIN #, which might come in handy later LoLz.

All I can tell you is what I'd I do in that situation. Either that, or I think to myself "I didnt see what I think I saw" which means I imagined seeing something cause I have prejudice against the dude.

Which is prolly what the cops think every time they hear about this dude.
which is prolly why they didnt seem that interested in him since they know what's up with him.

But yeah, that's shit suspicious and good looking out :) it's good to know that at least ppl still care to keep kids safe,



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2012 07:39AM by Gordon Blvd.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Silverbrook Citizen ()
Date: April 13, 2012 08:21AM

@ Guapo:

Seen hanging out by which pond (there are two)? Watching kids on which trail? At what time...your post is a little vague. On which road were you stuck behind him?

More info would be helpful if folks are going to keep an eye out, or to avoid alarming folks unnecessarily.
Thanks

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Guapo1973 ()
Date: April 13, 2012 09:40AM

Silverbrook Citizen Wrote:
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> @ Guapo:
>
> Seen hanging out by which pond (there are two)?
> Watching kids on which trail? At what time...your
> post is a little vague. On which road were you
> stuck behind him?
>
> More info would be helpful if folks are going to
> keep an eye out, or to avoid alarming folks
> unnecessarily.
> Thanks

It was just this last tuesday afternoon right by heron pond off crosspointe drive. The elementary school is just down the street.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Mr. Insensitive ()
Date: April 13, 2012 03:24PM

Ogien Wrote:
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> PinkValentony Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wonder how many valentine's our Creeper was
> giving
> > out today?
> >
> > Any sitings in recent weeks?
>
>
> You're an idiot aren't you?
>
> I ask because you obviously didn't read the press
> release the Police put out.
>
> Just for you, in hopes that you'll learn
> something, I'm going to repost the exact same text
> that Kendra posted earlier in the thread.
>
> ATTENTION IDIOTS: (That part was mine)
>
> ‘Crosspointe Creeper’ No Danger, Officer Says
>
>
> By Rachel Leonard
>
> A man rumored to be a child molester who
> frequently observes other people in the
> Crosspointe community near Fairfax Station appears
> to pose no danger to local residents, a Fairfax
> County police officer said Tuesday.
>
> West Springfield District police Capt. Joe Hill
> said the “Crosspointe Creeper,” who has driven
> around the community and watched residents for
> more than two years, is not breaking any laws and
> that the case did not warrant hysteria.
> Allegations of child molestation were
> unsubstantiated, he said.
>
> “None of that is true,” said Hill, speaking
> before a South County Federation meeting Tuesday
> at South County Secondary School in Lorton. “We
> ran his record. We know who this guy is. We’ve
> encountered him several times – folks call us,
> and we go out there and talk to him. He has no
> criminal record, never been accused of anything,
> has a government job – for all intents and
> purposes, a very upstanding citizen.
>
> “He just has a quirk in that he likes to go
> into these neighborhoods with large homes,
> beautifully decorated for the holidays, and he
> likes to look at these homes.”
>
> Hill said he had spoken with individuals
> spreading rumors that the man was a child molester
> and asked them to stop, and that he also spoke
> Tuesday with the man, who has agreed not to return
> to the community, in part for fear of his own
> personal safety. Neighborhood associations had
> expressed concerns about the man.
>
> http://fairfaxstation.patch.com/articles/crosspoin
> te-creeper-no-danger-officer-says-ee2f0782

Seems like the only thing to do is for the neighbors to be diligent and take pictures. Some hard evidence that the police can actually do something with.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Some more info ()
Date: April 16, 2012 01:35PM


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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: April 16, 2012 01:50PM

Even if he means no harm, he's a loser with no business being there who is making residents uneasy. Go be creepy in your own neighborhood. Oh wait, that's right, no one likes your creepy activity, in any neighborhood. Go be creepy in your own home weirdo.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 16, 2012 02:34PM

@more complete - you sound like some street thug - get out my 'hood LoLz

In American, we got this nifty thing called FREEDOM

if you cant respect another American who is simply enjoying freedom (i.e not commiting a crime, not doing anything to anybody else), then FUCK YOU.

Being creepy aint a crime. Uneasy residents with NO REASON to be uneasy is, at the end of the day bullshit.

Even if he means no harm, then because you dont like him, he should have his rights taken away from him.....................WHAT SORT OF UNAMERICAN BULLSHIT IS THAT?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: iweepfortomorrow ()
Date: April 16, 2012 02:50PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> @more complete - you sound like some street thug -
> get out my 'hood LoLz
>
> In American, we got this nifty thing called
> FREEDOM
>

Absolutely, one can do whatever they wish, however there will be consequences. Whether or not one believes there should be consequences to their actions, legal or otherwise, is a matter of 'fairness', fully subjective and not at all governed by law.


> if you cant respect another American who is simply
> enjoying freedom (i.e not commiting a crime, not
> doing anything to anybody else), then FUCK YOU.
>


Talking loud during a movie isn't a crime either, but that doesn't give someone the FREEDOM to ruin the experience for everyone else, consequence free.

Try it sometime, jibber jabber through a whole movie and when you get your teeth kicked in for exercising your FREEDOM to be an annoying douche-bag, use your FREEDOM argument on those that hath done you dirty.


> Being creepy aint a crime. Uneasy residents with
> NO REASON to be uneasy is, at the end of the day
> bullshit.
>

Honestly, you are not smart. At all.


> Even if he means no harm, then because you dont
> like him, he should have his rights taken away
> from him.....................WHAT SORT OF
> UNAMERICAN BULLSHIT IS THAT?


That's right. In AMERICA I have the FREEDOM to not like anyone I want, and I have the FREEDOM to make them not want to be creepy in my neighborhood. Shit cuts both ways, genius.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: yuppie maggots ()
Date: April 16, 2012 03:13PM

This thread embodies why yuppy makes ain't worth $hit.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: The Voice of Reason ()
Date: April 16, 2012 04:18PM

...And while all of you bicker, the source of this problem drives around the neighborhood scaring residents and their children. Is this freedom?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: April 16, 2012 04:31PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @more complete - you sound like some street thug -
> get out my 'hood LoLz

That's why I don't live in the hood, I live on property. It's nice that I don't have to worry about these sorts of things. ;)

The fact is, this gentlemen’s behavior would be frowned upon in any neighborhood. What's so hard to understand about that? What he's doing is unusual and makes people feel uncomfortable because it's not normal (and therefore suspicious).

It's not rocket surgery! ;)

He’s free to be weird all he wants, but he cannot expect everyone else to welcome it.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 16, 2012 08:19PM

@more complete - so do what common sense says do - TALK TO THE GUY. Not rocket surgery. It's pathetic I see ppl talk about threatening the dude's safety when he hasnt done a damn thing.
@voice - he's not the source of the problem seeing as he's NOT COMMITTED A CRIME............stuck up ppl creating hysteria is the problem.

REMEMBER - THESE ARE STATE STREETS NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. He may be weird but if he's paying his taxes he's got a right to be there whether you like it or not.

If you want to live in a gated community, move.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: omgtimesonemillion ()
Date: April 16, 2012 09:57PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @more complete - so do what common sense says do -
> TALK TO THE GUY. Not rocket surgery. It's
> pathetic I see ppl talk about threatening the
> dude's safety when he hasnt done a damn thing.
> @voice - he's not the source of the problem seeing
> as he's NOT COMMITTED A CRIME............stuck up
> ppl creating hysteria is the problem.
>

dude, y r u so hung up on the crime thing. Nobody is trying to arrest him. They just want him to move along. You do not have the freedom to be a dick. Dicks get hassled. No law against being a dick, no law against hassling dicks. The creeper is being a dick so he is getting hassled for being a dick.

GO back to kindygarden fuck-stick jerky-bama.

> REMEMBER - THESE ARE STATE STREETS NOT PRIVATE
> PROPERTY. He may be weird but if he's paying his
> taxes he's got a right to be there whether you
> like it or not.
>

No he doesn't. Case in point, he moved along because he knew he was being a dick and was going to continue to get hassled and publicly shamed for being a dick. If he wasn't being a dick, no one would have said shit.

And you can continue to spout your America/freedom cry-baby bullshit, but the bottom line is the majority rules and his ass is gone.

You and your creepy boyfriend lose. Have a nice day. C'ya. Good day. Adios. Eat a dick.

> If you want to live in a gated community, move.

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Sounds like you and the good ppl of Crosspointe would send others they dont like into "gated communities"
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 17, 2012 08:16AM

@omg - yr as full of shit as a constapated asshole
"
dude, y r u so hung up on the crime thing. Nobody is trying to arrest him. They just want him to move along. You do not have the freedom to be a dick. Dicks get hassled. No law against being a dick, no law against hassling dicks. The creeper is being a dick so he is getting hassled for being a dick. "

a) yes, they were trying to get him arrested - that's why they called the cops INSTEAD of simply talking to the guy

b) actually, you do have the freedom to be a dick. Or show me where in the Constitution or the VA Code it says you cant? Howard Stern and Rush Limbugh make millions being dicks to others everyday so STFU on that tip, yo

c) no, he left because he was concerned for his safety, not because he was doing anything wrong.

Bottom line is that majority rules.....................but I've heard that bullshit before too................
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Concerned resident ()
Date: April 17, 2012 12:56PM

Looks like we'll just have do our due diligence. If he does anything criminal, then it will be reported to the police. Otherwise, everyone needs to just be calm.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Crosspointe Residents beware ()
Date: April 19, 2012 04:16PM

Don't let your kids fall for this...
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: WhoKat ()
Date: April 19, 2012 04:19PM

Concerned resident Wrote:
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> Looks like we'll just have do our due diligence.
> If he does anything criminal, then it will be
> reported to the police. Otherwise, everyone needs
> to just be calm.

Why don't you play in traffic or go to starbucks or drink wine. You yuppie punks aren't about anything other than your white picket fences. I'm sickened by your ilk.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 19, 2012 04:45PM

@whokat - actually, I this Concerned resident is being kinda cool, just saying to keep a lookout and call the cops if they see something happen. Why u hatin'?
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Bull Horn ()
Date: April 19, 2012 05:42PM

Keep a bull horn handy- or a microphone of some type.
When the creeper is on your street, looking at the freshly grown flowers or May Day decorations, use the bull horn and shout,
"the Hell away from our kids"!!!!!







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> ...And while all of you bicker, the source of this
> problem drives around the neighborhood scaring
> residents and their children. Is this freedom?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Toddlers at the pool ()
Date: May 28, 2012 04:27PM

Opps,
I posted on the wrong page.... not meant to go on Bonnie Brae's page.

The pools are open. It's pretty easy to sit on a side street and admire little tots in the baby pool!

Be on the lookout for our "Innocent" creeper.




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> This man has been driving around Crosspointe and
> stops to watch children play. He drives a dark
> green Toyota Camry LE tag # XPL 5347, a silver
> Camry and a green Highlander

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: The Crosspointe Creeper ()
Date: May 29, 2012 11:08AM

Re: Crosspointe Creeper Posted by: Bull Horn ()
Date: April 19, 2012 05:42PM


Keep a bull horn handy- or a microphone of some type.
When the creeper is on your street, looking at the freshly grown flowers or May Day decorations, use the bull horn and shout,
"GET the Hell away from our kids"!!!!!
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 29, 2012 02:42PM

ROFLMAO!!

+1, Creeper

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: The Crosspointe Creeper ()
Date: May 29, 2012 02:49PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> ROFLMAO!!
>
> +1, Creeper

"The Creeper knows all, foolish mortal!... Ha Ha Ha... except what you're talking about, Batman." ~Jack Ryder
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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Any news on this guy? ()
Date: June 10, 2012 07:32PM

I found this comment from the patch...

http://lorton.patch.com/articles/crosspointe-creeper-no-danger-officer-says

This story leads people to believe that the Crosspointe "creeper" only likes to look at large homes decorated for the holidays, when in fact he has been driving through our community for almost 2 years now and oddly enough, primarily at the elementary school release time. Yes, people should not label him a child molester, nor should they engage him in any way. But, our community does have the right to watch for any suspicious activity and this certainly qualifies. Why does he choose to continue to drive though our community at the time the children get out of school? If he likes "large homes, beautifully decorated" why hasn't he felt the need to drive through South Run or other communities and be noticed. He continues to harass our neighborhood with his disturbing presence. What would you do about someone who drives slowly and watches you in two different cars? That's right, he even changes cars to do his "drives looking at lovely houses". We have the right to be watchful and make sure suspicious activity is reported. Just because he has "a government job and no criminal activity" does not let him off the hook for his odd and disturbing behavior.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Jamie Braun ()
Date: June 26, 2012 05:24PM

Hi i just want to let you know that i think of all of you naked.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: dumb ()
Date: January 16, 2013 09:32AM

Im glad this thread is at rest, but im sad to read the ignorance of so many

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: well... ()
Date: January 16, 2013 10:03AM

If he was black or hispanic, he would have been arrested already.

Just saying.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 16, 2013 06:30PM

If he was black or hispanic, he would have raped and/or murdered some one.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: January 16, 2013 08:20PM

BEH Wrote:
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> If he was black or hispanic, he would have raped
> and/or murdered some one.


Although wrong, I sit here busting out laughing. Thanks Beh!

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Todd Dodd ()
Date: December 16, 2013 10:05PM

Bump............

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: asdfasdfasdfasfd ()
Date: December 17, 2013 06:49AM

Any sightings of the Crosspointe Creeper? He comes out at this time of the year to check out the "Christmas Decorations".

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: .... ()
Date: January 05, 2014 08:47PM

asdfasdfasdfasfd Wrote:
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> Any sightings of the Crosspointe Creeper? He comes
> out at this time of the year to check out the
> "Christmas Decorations".

Haven't heard anything on it in a while.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Ever Vigilant ()
Date: May 03, 2014 06:41PM

Bumpitty Bump

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: JtPVt ()
Date: May 03, 2014 07:01PM

He was replaced by the "Scary Black Man"

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1475485.html

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Tom g ()
Date: December 27, 2014 06:47PM

Any reports of this freak this year?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: MikeyH ()
Date: February 07, 2015 03:08PM

Anyone spot this weirdo in 2015?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: PaulyD ()
Date: March 31, 2015 08:03PM

This loser has been spotted again last week creeping around kids. HOA suggests standing next to his car if spotted and take pictures of the license plate and driver. If I find him, better that there aren't any pictures to be used against me.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Goose road ()
Date: March 31, 2015 08:29PM

Sydenstricker area and Newington drive.

Where else has he been spotted?
Does he still drive a pick up truck? Nasty perve




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> This loser has been spotted again last week
> creeping around kids. HOA suggests standing next
> to his car if spotted and take pictures of the
> license plate and driver. If I find him, better
> that there aren't any pictures to be used against
> me.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Mystery Machine ()
Date: June 07, 2016 02:32PM

4Dom Wrote:
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> Put a gate at all entrances to your neighborhood
> and only let people in you want.

A gated community in Lorton?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: cp925 ()
Date: March 31, 2017 08:41AM

Is this the same guy that FCPS just issued an alert on or is this another creeper?

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Czajkowski ()
Date: June 16, 2020 10:52AM

AS of 4/2020, He now drives a Grey Mercedes SUV GLE 360.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Czajkowski ()
Date: June 17, 2020 03:50PM

He ran raised his ugly head again in Crosspointe Development as of April 2020 and lJune. His in now driving a silver/gray Mercedes Benz SUV, GLE 360. In vicinity of Bay Berry Ridge Road.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Lorton Creeper is back ()
Date: June 17, 2020 05:16PM

Just another reason to stay out of Lorton.

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Re: Crosspointe Creeper
Posted by: Crosspointe peeper ()
Date: June 17, 2020 07:54PM


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