Tistadt was asked by the School Board for a report on SOCO projections and neighboring schools. Has anyone seen it?

Let's see what the facilities folks are saying rather than the political BS being spewed by Bradsher and Storck.

Wasn't there a work session on April 24th about this?

With over 800 empty seats at Mount Vernon we need to ship 500 SOCO students there.

All you would need is a few buses and the over capacity issues at SOCO would be fixed for the next ten years.



Facilities Department Wrote:
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> Tistadt was asked by the School Board for a report
> on SOCO projections and neighboring schools. Has
> anyone seen it?
>
> Let's see what the facilities folks are saying
> rather than the political BS being spewed by
> Bradsher and Storck.
>
> Wasn't there a work session on April 24th about
> this?

Ok, let me get this straight. Because of all the budget cuts, the teachers will receive a 2% pay raise rather than 3%; They are killing the expansion of all day kindergarten, they are killing FLES even though one of the main goals is that each kid be fluent in 2 languages; there is a hiring freeze on instructional assistants; introduction of bus depots for GT centers; no new textbooks; cutting back on summer school programs.

Wow!! You know what? I have been wrong all along and I owe a HUGE apology to the SOCO crew and Dan and Lizzie, we have plenty of money to throw around.

By God, build that new school NOW!! Let's break ground tomorrow!!

Show me The Money Wrote:
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> Ok, let me get this straight. Because of all the
> budget cuts, the teachers will receive a 2% pay
> raise rather than 3%; They are killing the
> expansion of all day kindergarten, they are
> killing FLES even though one of the main goals is
> that each kid be fluent in 2 languages; there is a
> hiring freeze on instructional assistants;
> introduction of bus depots for GT centers; no new
> textbooks; cutting back on summer school
> programs.
>
> Wow!! You know what? I have been wrong all along
> and I owe a HUGE apology to the SOCO crew and Dan
> and Lizzie, we have plenty of money to throw
> around.
>
> By God, build that new school NOW!! Let's break
> ground tomorrow!!


Apology Accepted.

Now if you can get the rest of these ignorant, arrogant, self-righteous, SOCOphobes to give up on their bitter, uninformed and illogical rantings, we can all move on to better use of our time.

NO WAY SOCO WHACKO, as before you and your fellow whackos are the true ass holes.

Mount Vernon is for you.


Apology Accepted Wrote:
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> Show me The Money Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, let me get this straight. Because of all
> the
> > budget cuts, the teachers will receive a 2% pay
> > raise rather than 3%; They are killing the
> > expansion of all day kindergarten, they are
> > killing FLES even though one of the main goals
> is
> > that each kid be fluent in 2 languages; there is
> a
> > hiring freeze on instructional assistants;
> > introduction of bus depots for GT centers; no
> new
> > textbooks; cutting back on summer school
> > programs.
> >
> > Wow!! You know what? I have been wrong all
> along
> > and I owe a HUGE apology to the SOCO crew and
> Dan
> > and Lizzie, we have plenty of money to throw
> > around.
> >
> > By God, build that new school NOW!! Let's break
> > ground tomorrow!!
>

During the March 10th work session for the Facilities Committee, it was recommended that they FINALLY use competent people for projections and estimates on the needeed renovations for our 184 schools. We apparently will be hiring a consultant.

Let's examine the condition of our existing schools:

The study scope identified schools that were not already listed in the 2000 queue and those schools not having been built of renovated since 1991. That would be 17 years ago- can you spell WEAR AND TEAR???

How many schools is that exactly do you ask?

Well, we have 6 high schools, 2 middle schools and 20 elementary schools. If we add those numbers to the existing 2000 queue that brings the total number of schools having no renovations for the last 17 years to 55.

Holy Toledo! We need to renovate 55 schools at a cost of a gazillion dollars-money of course that we don't have (we have to borrow it from ourselves) and yet we are talking about this URGENT matter of adding on to a school that is 3 years old. Or worse, building a school that we don't need.

HAVE YOU ALL LOST YOUR MINDS???? The fact that this discussion is even taking place is an insult to our intelligence.

Show Bradsher and Storck the door, please.

Does the entire SB only do things for the people of SOCO.

New HS, new ES and now a new MS when other schools are falling apart.

Why do they take care of 5,000 students and do nothing for the other 165,000 students in the county.




state of the union Wrote:
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> During the March 10th work session for the
> Facilities Committee, it was recommended that they
> FINALLY use competent people for projections and
> estimates on the needeed renovations for our 184
> schools. We apparently will be hiring a
> consultant.
>
> Let's examine the condition of our existing
> schools:
>
> The study scope identified schools that were not
> already listed in the 2000 queue and those schools
> not having been built of renovated since 1991.
> That would be 17 years ago- can you spell WEAR AND
> TEAR???
>
> How many schools is that exactly do you ask?
>
> Well, we have 6 high schools, 2 middle schools and
> 20 elementary schools. If we add those numbers to
> the existing 2000 queue that brings the total
> number of schools having no renovations for the
> last 17 years to 55.
>
> Holy Toledo! We need to renovate 55 schools at a
> cost of a gazillion dollars-money of course that
> we don't have (we have to borrow it from
> ourselves) and yet we are talking about this
> URGENT matter of adding on to a school that is 3
> years old. Or worse, building a school that we
> don't need.
>
> HAVE YOU ALL LOST YOUR MINDS???? The fact that
> this discussion is even taking place is an insult
> to our intelligence.
>
> Show Bradsher and Storck the door, please.

Schools fall apart Wrote:
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> Does the entire SB only do things for the people
> of SOCO.
>
> New HS, new ES and now a new MS when other schools
> are falling apart.
>
> Why do they take care of 5,000 students and do
> nothing for the other 165,000 students in the
> county.

You make it sound like these "new" schools being built to replace "old" schools. That's just not what is happeninng. A quick history lesson.

The Lorton prison was closed 2001. 2,000 acres of federal land were transferred to Fairfax County. As part of that transfer, 120 acres were set aside to build an ES, MS, and HS. Also, "new" developments with 4,000 homes were planned and then built. 15,000 - 20,000 "new" people moved into this new Fairfax County community, with thousands of "new" students. Fairfax County planned for this "new" community, including planning for "new" retail, "new" roads, "new" sewer lines, "new" bus routes and "new" schools. This what you do when you plan a "new"community. What's so strange about this process?

If you disagree with the County's decision to take the federal land and allow thousands of new homes to be built on and around that land, that is certainly a reasonable position -- but that already happened; you can't reverse it.

But it's not reasonable to have planned a "new" community, built the homes and then change your mind about building "new" schools there. Just like it wouldn't be reasonable not to build "new" roads there, even though roads all over the County are "falling apart."

I think some SB members are beginning to lose sight of their responsibilities. A few continue to involve themselves with developers and I think we are going down a slippery slope.

The county receives this proffer money from the developers for whatever purpose they want to use it for. In the Vienna development they used the funds for an artificial turf field. I would argue that maybe it could have been spent on a firehouse or a police station but that is just me.

This long diatribe about the development of SOCO is meaningless. The middle school is scheduled to be built in 2017. If it is still needed then, than they should build it. Until then, let's embrace this "efficiency theory" that was used at South Lakes and properly utilize neighboring schools.

SB members and developers Wrote:
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> I think some SB members are beginning to lose
> sight of their responsibilities. A few continue
> to involve themselves with developers and I think
> we are going down a slippery slope.
>
> The county receives this proffer money from the
> developers for whatever purpose they want to use
> it for. In the Vienna development they used the
> funds for an artificial turf field. I would argue
> that maybe it could have been spent on a firehouse
> or a police station but that is just me.
>
> This long diatribe about the development of SOCO
> is meaningless. The middle school is scheduled to
> be built in 2017. If it is still needed then,
> than they should build it. Until then, let's
> embrace this "efficiency theory" that was used at
> South Lakes and properly utilize neighboring
> schools.

So, do you think the SL RD was a good thing? Or do you just think that if some people got screwed, everyone should get screwed?

How can the SB possibly argue that the needs of South Lakes were immediate yet Mt Vernon WITH OVER 800 EMPTY SEATS is just fine the way it is. Particularly, when you have a bordering school more crowded than Westfield and Oakton were.

RD to Mount Vernon now and give the teachers their 3 percent pay raise.


Anti-RD Wrote:
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> SB members and developers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think some SB members are beginning to lose
> > sight of their responsibilities. A few
> continue
> > to involve themselves with developers and I
> think
> > we are going down a slippery slope.
> >
> > The county receives this proffer money from the
> > developers for whatever purpose they want to
> use
> > it for. In the Vienna development they used
> the
> > funds for an artificial turf field. I would
> argue
> > that maybe it could have been spent on a
> firehouse
> > or a police station but that is just me.
> >
> > This long diatribe about the development of
> SOCO
> > is meaningless. The middle school is scheduled
> to
> > be built in 2017. If it is still needed then,
> > than they should build it. Until then, let's
> > embrace this "efficiency theory" that was used
> at
> > South Lakes and properly utilize neighboring
> > schools.
>
> So, do you think the SL RD was a good thing? Or
> do you just think that if some people got screwed,
> everyone should get screwed?

New schools for a "new" community wrote;

The Lorton prison was closed 2001. 2,000 acres of federal land were transferred to Fairfax County. As part of that transfer, 120 acres were set aside to build an ES, MS, and HS. Also, "new" developments with 4,000 homes were planned and then built. 15,000 - 20,000 "new" people moved into this new Fairfax County community, with thousands of "new" students.

Facts writes;

You need to provide facts that 4,000 homes were built in SOCO? Are you including the over 55 community in your numbers?

How many people are in each new home? How many students per home?

Get the facts first before you post you normal bull shit.

800 empty seats at Mount Vernon Wrote:
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> How can the SB possibly argue that the needs of
> South Lakes were immediate yet Mt Vernon WITH OVER
> 800 EMPTY SEATS is just fine the way it is.
> Particularly, when you have a bordering school
> more crowded than Westfield and Oakton were.
>
> RD to Mount Vernon now and give the teachers their
> 3 percent pay raise.

So are you saying you supported the SL RD or not?

And if your point is to move students to Mt. Vernon, talk to Brad Center and see if he wants Hayfield kids moved to Mt. Vernon -- they're the closest ones -- not South County.

Good move Hayfield to Mt. Vernon and South County to Hayfield, I don't care. Don't spend the money on the middle school. Mt. Vernon has seats, use them now.

SB members and developers Wrote:
"This long diatribe about the development of SOCO is meaningless."

Facts Wrote:
"You need to provide facts that 4,000 homes were built in SOCO?"

-------------------

So even if the facts can be shown to be true (which they are), they are meaningless. Not much point in trying to discuss things here. Time to move on.

“Facts an' facts, an' t'ings an t'ings: dem's all a lotta fockin' bullshit. Hear me! Dere is no truth but de one truth, an' that is the truth of Jah Rastafari.”

- Bob Marley

This is why the SOCO MS needs to wait their turn. 2017


Re: New School Board Members
Posted by: Cutting in line (IP Logged)
Date: May 02, 2008 02:00PM


Please come to a WSHS Community Town Hall Meeting with Springfield Supervisor Pat Herrity, Springfield School Board Representative Liz Bradsher and FCPS Director of Facilities Management Bill Mutscheller, to discuss the pressing facility needs of West Springfield High School on Tuesday, May 6th, at 7:00 p.m. in the WSHS cafeteria.

Other invited guests include: FCPS School Board members Dan Storck, Tessie Wilson, Tina Hone, Jim Raney, and Ilryong Moon.

Did you know that West Springfield High School is the oldest high school in the county that has not been--and is not scheduled to be--fully renovated?

Did you know that West Springfield High School currently is not slated to be looked at for full renovation for another 20 to 30 years?

We can't wait that long!

Come on Tuesday, May 6th at 7:00 to the WSHS cafeteria and ask questions and get the facts on renovations for WSHS!

This program is organized and sponsored by the WSHS PTSA.

Re: New School Board Members
Posted by: We love you Lizzie!! (IP Logged)
Date: May 02, 2008 03:11PM


This post is a tribute to newbie Liz Bradsher in honor of all she has done and who she has taken care of.

BTW, Lizzie-if you are reading this, did our checks clear yet??

Bradsher Contributors:

Dave Albo - now we know why he is at these SOCO meetings.

William Bachman Fairfax Station 22039

Lawrence Berberian Crosspointe 22039

Jose Cecin Fairfax Station 22039

Peter Dickinson Lorton 22029

Anne Gallant Fairfax Station 22039

Christopher Joseph Fairfax Station 22039

Thomas Moore Fairfax Station 22039

Jeff Fuchs Fairfax Station 22039

Joseph Shirvan Fairfax Station 22039

Michael Powell Fairfax Station 22039

John Rowley III Fairfax Station 22039

Tom Davis ?????????? What does he want do you suppose???

Robert Robertory Fairfax Station 22039

These contributors are all paying Liz for their new school. There does not seem to be any money poring in from outside SOCO community.

WAKE UP WEST SPRINGFIELD PARENTS!!!! If you want your school renovated before it crumbles you need to pay the piper.

Keep up the good work Lizzie. You are worth every penny we spent on you!!

We pay for SB action Wrote:
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> Re: New School Board Members
> Posted by: We love you Lizzie!! (IP Logged)
> Date: May 02, 2008 03:11PM
>
>
> This post is a tribute to newbie Liz Bradsher in
> honor of all she has done and who she has taken
> care of.
>
> BTW, Lizzie-if you are reading this, did our
> checks clear yet??
>
> Bradsher Contributors:
>
> Dave Albo - now we know why he is at these SOCO
> meetings.
>
> William Bachman Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Lawrence Berberian Crosspointe 22039
>
> Jose Cecin Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Peter Dickinson Lorton 22029
>
> Anne Gallant Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Christopher Joseph Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Thomas Moore Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Jeff Fuchs Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Joseph Shirvan Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Michael Powell Fairfax Station 22039
>
> John Rowley III Fairfax Station 22039
>
> Tom Davis ?????????? What does he want do you
> suppose???
>
> Robert Robertory Fairfax Station 22039
>
> These contributors are all paying Liz for their
> new school. There does not seem to be any money
> poring in from outside SOCO community.
>
> WAKE UP WEST SPRINGFIELD PARENTS!!!! If you want
> your school renovated before it crumbles you need
> to pay the piper.
>
> Keep up the good work Lizzie. You are worth every
> penny we spent on you!!


So you guys are paying your SB member to do what you guys want, a new school? Wouldn't that be called bribery?? Wonder if that was the fashion with some of the SB members with the Western County redistricting particularly Strauss with her shielding Langley. Something does not sound right at all with the current SB..at least not all of them. It reeks of corruption for sure.

WTF? Wrote:
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> We pay for SB action Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> >
> > These contributors are all paying Liz for their
> > new school. There does not seem to be any money
> > poring in from outside SOCO community.
>
> So you guys are paying your SB member to do what
> you guys want, a new school? Wouldn't that be
> called bribery?? Wonder if that was the fashion
> with some of the SB members with the Western
> County redistricting particularly Strauss with her
> shielding Langley. Something does not sound right
> at all with the current SB..at least not all of
> them. It reeks of corruption for sure.


OH MY GOD! It must be corruption! Candidates receiving money for their campaigns! Corruption, corruption, corruption!!!

Are there any other School Board Members who receive contributions from people who live near them? What about the Board of Supervisors? Please don't tell me that Gerry Connolly actually lets people give him campaign contributions? (I mean bribes.) At the least, please tell me the people who do contribute don't live anywhere near him and hardly even know him.

Does the Washington Post know about this scandal? Could there be Members of the State Legislature who will knowingly accept such "campaign contributions"/"bribes" from people who live in their districts? What about Governor Kaine? Does he accept contributions from Virginians? Could this scandal extend all the way to Congress? I would have thought that Congress would pass a law making it a crime to contribute to a political candidate?

Please, please don't tell me that our Presidential candidates, Obama, Clinton and McCain actually engage in this heinous practice. My God, if Obama has received byh far the most money does that make him by far the most corrupt? Our nation is doomed!

Really, thank you , thank you, thank you for this tremendous contribution to the discussion.

Imagine! Friends and neighbors supporting a candidate for public office by making campaign contributions! Do they also volunteer their time to help the campaign. After all, "time is money" so volunteering must also be corruption!

DUDE, give it up. You hate Liz Bradsher; you really, really HATE LIZ BRADSHER, we get it. Just make that post once a day, or even twice a day, say once at 8 AM and once at 6 PM so that you cover both day and night readers. But, can you then let folks at least try to discuss real issues here.

And don't think using all your different anonymous aliases fools anyone.

Let's not leave out Dan Storck's VIP list of donors:

Linwood Gorham Mason Neck
Kim Kern LOrton- coincidentally the SOCO MIddle School Solution head
Dave Kyle Lorton
Tom Moore Fairfax Station
Keith and Melissa Salisbury Lorton
Rob Robertory Barrington


All of these contributors are active in this SOCO Middle School crap and remarkably they all live on the border of either Mt Vernon or Lake Braddock.

I guess it is a remarkable coincidence that they felt generous this election year when SOCO money is needed.

This School Board is for sale. Spread the word.

More on Rob Robertory later.......

Is this the way SOCO is getting a new MS?


Let's not leave out Dan Storck's VIP list of donors:

Linwood Gorham Mason Neck
Kim Kern LOrton- coincidentally the SOCO MIddle School Solution head
Dave Kyle Lorton
Tom Moore Fairfax Station
Keith and Melissa Salisbury Lorton
Rob Robertory Barrington


All of these contributors are active in this SOCO Middle School crap and remarkably they all live on the border of either Mt Vernon or Lake Braddock.

I guess it is a remarkable coincidence that they felt generous this election year when SOCO money is needed.

This School Board is for sale. Spread the word.

More on Rob Robertory later.......

>
> So you guys are paying your SB member to do what
> you guys want, a new school? Wouldn't that be
> called bribery?? Wonder if that was the fashion
> with some of the SB members with the Western
> County redistricting particularly Strauss with her
> shielding Langley. Something does not sound right
> at all with the current SB..at least not all of
> them. It reeks of corruption for sure.

Strauss has been a mean-spirited hack who has only served the interests of rich people Langley and McLean for her entire tenure on the SB. But everybody knows that, and she's old, old news.

Bradsher is newer to SB and people have discovered more recently that she will only serve the interests of reach people Springfield and South County. Her defenders will say she's delivering for her constituents; everyone else will recognize what is depressingly familiar - one more SB member putting the interests of a narrow few above the best interests of students as a whole.

This is not only old news, but it is the same news from this corrupt SB. You only get what you pay for.



Old News Wrote:
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> >
> > So you guys are paying your SB member to do
> what
> > you guys want, a new school? Wouldn't that be
> > called bribery?? Wonder if that was the
> fashion
> > with some of the SB members with the Western
> > County redistricting particularly Strauss with
> her
> > shielding Langley. Something does not sound
> right
> > at all with the current SB..at least not all of
> > them. It reeks of corruption for sure.
>
> Strauss has been a mean-spirited hack who has only
> served the interests of rich people Langley and
> McLean for her entire tenure on the SB. But
> everybody knows that, and she's old, old news.
>
> Bradsher is newer to SB and people have discovered
> more recently that she will only serve the
> interests of reach people Springfield and South
> County. Her defenders will say she's delivering
> for her constituents; everyone else will recognize
> what is depressingly familiar - one more SB member
> putting the interests of a narrow few above the
> best interests of students as a whole.

Things are out of control in SOCO. Bradsher and Storck only serve the rich people of SOCO. Add SOCO to the special interest groups of Mclean and Langley.


You get what you pay for Wrote:
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> This is not only old news, but it is the same news
> from this corrupt SB. You only get what you pay
> for.
>
>
>
> Old News Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > > So you guys are paying your SB member to do
> > what
> > > you guys want, a new school? Wouldn't that
> be
> > > called bribery?? Wonder if that was the
> > fashion
> > > with some of the SB members with the Western
> > > County redistricting particularly Strauss
> with
> > her
> > > shielding Langley. Something does not sound
> > right
> > > at all with the current SB..at least not all
> of
> > > them. It reeks of corruption for sure.
> >
> > Strauss has been a mean-spirited hack who has
> only
> > served the interests of rich people Langley and
> > McLean for her entire tenure on the SB. But
> > everybody knows that, and she's old, old news.
> >
> > Bradsher is newer to SB and people have
> discovered
> > more recently that she will only serve the
> > interests of reach people Springfield and South
> > County. Her defenders will say she's
> delivering
> > for her constituents; everyone else will
> recognize
> > what is depressingly familiar - one more SB
> member
> > putting the interests of a narrow few above the
> > best interests of students as a whole.

If Bradsher thinks she is going to con the folks at West Springfield with her dog and pony show she is dumber than we all suspected.

She will attempt to convince the WSHS PTA how hard she is going to advocate for their school renovation. The truth is she has used up all her political capital on begging for this SOCO middle school and she is to inexperienced to be able to call in any favors.

The WSHS PTA is going to have her for lunch.

The Facilities Dept puts out an annual report which summarizes the state of the 185 schools within FCPS.

GSA guidelines for facilities staffing specify that FCPS employ 655 individuals in order to keep up with the properties (figure does not include custodians and groundkeepers). FCPS currently employs 403 people in this area-basically they are staffed at about 60%. It would cost another $22 million per year to increase staffing.

How does this staffing shortage affect the upkeep of the schools? Well, there were 13110 work orders requested last year and 5512 were completed. A completion rate of just 42% resulting in a backlog of 2.4 years.

Every homeowner understands the cost benefits of preventive maintenance...a $10 air filter can save you thousands on HVAC repairs. The same is true of our schools.

This school system doen't even have enough money to properly staff and thus address the ongoing requests for repairs.

It is just plain stupid to think we have $50 million to spend on this school.

If status of our schools is true, then all schools in need of repairs must be done first before any new schools.

Question, with almost 8,000 work orders not completed, are they making our schools unsafe for our children?

Safety first.



status of our schools Wrote:
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> The Facilities Dept puts out an annual report
> which summarizes the state of the 185 schools
> within FCPS.
>
> GSA guidelines for facilities staffing specify
> that FCPS employ 655 individuals in order to keep
> up with the properties (figure does not include
> custodians and groundkeepers). FCPS currently
> employs 403 people in this area-basically they are
> staffed at about 60%. It would cost another $22
> million per year to increase staffing.
>
> How does this staffing shortage affect the upkeep
> of the schools? Well, there were 13110 work orders
> requested last year and 5512 were completed. A
> completion rate of just 42% resulting in a backlog
> of 2.4 years.
>
> Every homeowner understands the cost benefits of
> preventive maintenance...a $10 air filter can save
> you thousands on HVAC repairs. The same is true
> of our schools.
>
> This school system doen't even have enough money
> to properly staff and thus address the ongoing
> requests for repairs.
>
> It is just plain stupid to think we have $50
> million to spend on this school.

Bradsher says that WSHS kids should be redistricted to LB instead of SOCO kids so then LB would be too full for her neighborhood. How does that help the overcrowding at SCSS?

Bradsher only cares about SOCO, everybody else can go to hell.




Halley Wrote:
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> Bradsher says that WSHS kids should be
> redistricted to LB instead of SOCO kids so then LB
> would be too full for her neighborhood. How does
> that help the overcrowding at SCSS?

According to the CAPS High School Performance rankings, SOCO is 22 out of 25 schools.

If the HS is performing so bad, do we want a failing MS?

No more new schools in SOCO.

SOCO HS is at the bottom Wrote:
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> According to the CAPS High School Performance
> rankings, SOCO is 22 out of 25 schools.
>
> If the HS is performing so bad, do we want a
> failing MS?
>
> No more new schools in SOCO.

Wrong - SOCO is 16; South Lakes is 22. Not that 16 is great, but you ought to try and get the facts right.

No money, no new schools and no Gatehouse 2.

I would like to see a 5 year budget projection. If things are tight for the next few years and the BOS gives FCPS 3% more per year-which is like $60 million-and we are giving the teachers 3% plus 2% COLA and the salaries are 87% of the budget-how is there going to be anything left for all the other expenses???

You can't keep growing a huge portion of your budget by 5% every year.

Additionally, where is the money coming from for the 55 schools that have not been renovated for the last 17 years?

At an average cost of $30 million per school (quite conservative), we will need to raise almost $2 billion dollars. The BOS permits FCPS to borrow $300 million every 2 years.

I am afraid that the fiscal state of the schools is quite dire and yet we talk about Gatehouse II and SOCO Middle.

Not to mention the influx of folks from Prince William Co.

I don’t know if this really matters but….

The Fairfax Station area is in the Springfield district, so they should be going to a Springfield school. Lorton is in the Mt. Vernon district, so they should be going to a Mt. Vernon school. Lake Braddock is in the Springfield district; send all the Fairfax Station students to that district. South County is in the Mt. Vernon district; keep the Lorton students at that school. The school board needs to do a boundary study for the schools near South County. No middle school should be built ever!

You got the right idea. With 800 empty seats at Mount Vernon send all SOCO students there. Mount Vernon District.



? Wrote:
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> I don’t know if this really matters but….
>
> The Fairfax Station area is in the Springfield
> district, so they should be going to a Springfield
> school. Lorton is in the Mt. Vernon district, so
> they should be going to a Mt. Vernon school. Lake
> Braddock is in the Springfield district; send all
> the Fairfax Station students to that district.
> South County is in the Mt. Vernon district; keep
> the Lorton students at that school. The school
> board needs to do a boundary study for the schools
> near South County. No middle school should be
> built ever!

Lake Braddock is in the Braddock District. Why should Silverbrook kids have to forced to drive all that distance on dangerous Lee Chapel and busy Braddock Road just to get to another mediocre school?

When you put everything together we have a corrupt, evil,unethical and morally degenerate group of unprofessional School board members.

They need to go.

See these comments;

By that logic Stu Gibson cannot be stopped in Hunter Mill. Looking at the RD hearings, he really hates the Floris Asian community that spoke out at the hearing. He snikered, shook his head , looked down upon these speakers with asian accent. He will get back at them using the next RD due for the new elementary in that area. Things are going to get even nastier in this Gibson nightmare.


Yes and yet it was Bradsher who told everybody that these schools belonged to the SB and she represented the Springfield district. I personally did not agree with Bradsher's notion of the schools belonging to the SB. It is for everyone. I would be cautious with the word of "interferring" because these sbms talked privately in advance about the boundary decision and made back room deals. On another note of the word "public", I looked up the dictionary..anybody who would care, go look it up and see the meaning, it means open to everyone. Well, think of this way, there are thousands and thousands of public restrooms and we can choose any public restroom to use, well why can't this be the same way with public schools? These public schools do not only belong to the SB, it is for everyone and everyone has the right to choose which schools to go to!


Admire? Stu single handedly destroyed all public trust in the SB. He has done more harm to FCPS than all SBMs combined since start of FCPS.

Everyone hates being cut off in traffic by some jerk who thinks their time is more important their ours. Same with this SOCO crowd-how is it they think they are more deserving of facilities than the kids from Edison, Marshall, TJ and West Springfield?

Engineers have ranked the schools that are in most need of repairs and renovation.There are limited dollars to go arouns. Only one high school every year has the funding for renovations.

How is it that SOCO wants us to spend $75 million of a school that is 3 years old when some schools have waited 40 years.

It is so unbelievably self-centered of them. They have no regard for kids at these other schools.

Since South County is in the Mount Vernon district with West Potomac and Mount Vernon high schools, they should send their over capacity students to these schools.

RD now.

Fairfax Station subdivisions do not belong at a Lorton School.

Stallion you need to get your facts straight. Most of Fairfax Station was lorton first. The prison was called lorton and it had 3,000 acres including all of Silverbrook road. Maybe SOCO HS should change their name to Lorton HS.

Stallion you were a Hawk first before you grew into a pony.



Stallion Wrote:
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> Fairfax Station subdivisions do not belong at a
> Lorton School.

Facilities Department Wrote:
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> Tistadt was asked by the School Board for a report
> on SOCO projections and neighboring schools. Has
> anyone seen it?
>
> Let's see what the facilities folks are saying
> rather than the political BS being spewed by
> Bradsher and Storck.
>
> Wasn't there a work session on April 24th about
> this?

I don't think that is relevant. All the politicians serving that area want it built no matter what.

If all the politicians want to build this school, then we need to ask them why? Is it for future votes?

If they want the school, they should build it with their own money not ours.

Hard to believe that it's the Republicans wanting to waste this $. Albo et al are not serving the interests of their GOP constituents.

Instead of a new MS, lets build a fun park in SOCO on FCPS land. Then take the profits from the park and bus all over capacity students to Hayfield.

state of the union Wrote:
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> During the March 10th work session for the
> Facilities Committee, it was recommended that they
> FINALLY use competent people for projections and
> estimates on the needeed renovations for our 184
> schools. We apparently will be hiring a
> consultant.
>
> Let's examine the condition of our existing
> schools:
>
> The study scope identified schools that were not
> already listed in the 2000 queue and those schools
> not having been built of renovated since 1991.
> That would be 17 years ago- can you spell WEAR AND
> TEAR???
>
> How many schools is that exactly do you ask?
>
> Well, we have 6 high schools, 2 middle schools and
> 20 elementary schools. If we add those numbers to
> the existing 2000 queue that brings the total
> number of schools having no renovations for the
> last 17 years to 55.
>
> Holy Toledo! We need to renovate 55 schools at a
> cost of a gazillion dollars-money of course that
> we don't have (we have to borrow it from
> ourselves) and yet we are talking about this
> URGENT matter of adding on to a school that is 3
> years old. Or worse, building a school that we
> don't need.
>
> HAVE YOU ALL LOST YOUR MINDS???? The fact that
> this discussion is even taking place is an insult
> to our intelligence.
>
> Show Bradsher and Storck the door, please.

MORE consultants??? What the hell does our administrative staff of 13,000 people do? Why does FCPS keep hiring consultants?!

Oh wait, I know, to cover their butts. They hire consultants who tell them what they want to hear, then they tell us, with backup.

Is this anyway to run a railroad? Or a school system? How many more millions will be wasted on a bloated bureaucracy that still need to hire outside consultants for millions more?

800 empty seats at Mount Vernon Wrote:
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> How can the SB possibly argue that the needs of
> South Lakes were immediate yet Mt Vernon WITH OVER
> 800 EMPTY SEATS is just fine the way it is.
> Particularly, when you have a bordering school
> more crowded than Westfield and Oakton were.
>
> RD to Mount Vernon now and give the teachers their
> 3 percent pay raise.

Dan Storck doesn't want redistricting at Mt.Vernon so it won't happen. He says that Mt.Vernon is too out of the way to send more students there. It's his district, only he can approve redistricting for Mt.Vernon. Without his support, with Storck asking staff to do it, redistricting at Mt.Vernon won't happen.

E Wrote:
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> Hard to believe that it's the Republicans wanting
> to waste this $. Albo et al are not serving the
> interests of their GOP constituents.

Huh? Albo isn't on the school board or the board of supervisors.

Public trust destroyed by the SB Wrote:
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> When you put everything together we have a
> corrupt, evil,unethical and morally degenerate
> group of unprofessional School board members.
>
> They need to go.
>
> See these comments;
>
> By that logic Stu Gibson cannot be stopped in
> Hunter Mill. Looking at the RD hearings, he really
> hates the Floris Asian community that spoke out at
> the hearing. He snikered, shook his head , looked
> down upon these speakers with asian accent. He
> will get back at them using the next RD due for
> the new elementary in that area. Things are going
> to get even nastier in this Gibson nightmare.
>
>
> Yes and yet it was Bradsher who told everybody
> that these schools belonged to the SB and she
> represented the Springfield district. I personally
> did not agree with Bradsher's notion of the
> schools belonging to the SB. It is for everyone. I
> would be cautious with the word of "interferring"
> because these sbms talked privately in advance
> about the boundary decision and made back room
> deals. On another note of the word "public", I
> looked up the dictionary..anybody who would care,
> go look it up and see the meaning, it means open
> to everyone. Well, think of this way, there are
> thousands and thousands of public restrooms and we
> can choose any public restroom to use, well why
> can't this be the same way with public schools?
> These public schools do not only belong to the SB,
> it is for everyone and everyone has the right to
> choose which schools to go to!
>
>
> Admire? Stu single handedly destroyed all public
> trust in the SB. He has done more harm to FCPS
> than all SBMs combined since start of FCPS.

Yes, it would be wonderful if every child in the county had school choice, but I don't see government schools letting go until forced to.

I agree too that Stu, and the other school board members, treated the Asian parents like dirt. They were rude, and disrespectful. They should all be ashamed of themselves. I sent an email telling them exactly that. Only one responded and it wasn't Stu. Not exactly a surprise.

Neen Wrote:
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> E Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hard to believe that it's the Republicans
> wanting
> > to waste this $. Albo et al are not serving the
> > interests of their GOP constituents.
>
> Huh? Albo isn't on the school board or the board
> of supervisors.

For purposes of South County Albo, Tom Davis, Hyland, Connelly appear to be more important than many school board members. GOP school board members [Lou Zone-R-Hunetr Mill and Stu mendelsohn-R-Dranesville] designed the Langley boundary. They were in office when the long distance commute began. Party affiliation and public finance is irrelevant.

Staff and used capacity [current and projected] are irrelevant in legacy building.

Albo is serving GOP constituents who do not want to go to Lake Braddock [far western Silverbrook for example] as well as GOP constituents who want Lake braddock undercapcity.

No one gives the magic number on where the GT center students come from that are at Lake braddock. If 100 are from SOCO then they could be replaced with 100 base school students who would stay for high school in grades 9-12 as 200. That 300 out of SOCO. 100 back to the middle school.

A small addition to give a comfortable margin at SOCO is not required and an entire new school at this time seems to indicate heavy underutilization of Lake braddock, SOCO HS, SOCO MS using the 2012 numbers .

The FCPS growth in students sems to be non-moveouts but who knows where they are? The growth from Prince William migration was not specified by FCPS for locations. I think Fort Belvoir has increased housing units on the base but they don't go to SOCO. Was that increase planned in part due to BRAC?

If so the overcrowded Fort Belvoir elementary got the shaft when they flipped the BRAC planning money to SOCO.

"Albo is serving GOP constituents who do not want to go to Lake Braddock [far western Silverbrook for example] as well as GOP constituents who want Lake braddock undercapcity. "

What a surprise. After all, he does live in that immediate vicinity.

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=albo&street=&city_zip=fairfax+station&state_id=&localtime=survey

Fort Belvoir high schoolers go to Mount Vernon.

Belvoir=MV Wrote:
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> Fort Belvoir high schoolers go to Mount Vernon.

Why do we need a new MS if the students feed into Mount Vernon now?

Taxpayer wrote:


Hyland has Mount Vernon HS which has enough openings to hold a middle school in his District and is one of the architects of the South County Middle school. His district also has Whitman the middle school not in it's own attendance area.

I am confused.

No, we are confused.

There is an article in the Post today about how West Springfield has been ignored on the CIP. Of course, idiot Bradsher is quoted as saying how this school has been ignored.

When the hell is she going to do the math??? TWO BILLION DOLLAR BACKLOG on needed renovations for over 50 schools. How on earth does she expect us to finance her $75 million school that is not needed??

She really does a disservice to our school system when she acts so stupid.

She blows in the wind just like a palm tree.She has more positions then most people have pills.

She needs to resign.

Bradsher is an idiot Wrote:
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> There is an article in the Post today about how
> West Springfield has been ignored on the CIP. Of
> course, idiot Bradsher is quoted as saying how
> this school has been ignored.
>
> When the hell is she going to do the math??? TWO
> BILLION DOLLAR BACKLOG on needed renovations for
> over 50 schools. How on earth does she expect us
> to finance her $75 million school that is not
> needed??
>
> She really does a disservice to our school system
> when she acts so stupid.

More bull shit from our school board and local officials.

They are always late on problems, like 15 years. What are they going to do now with no money?


A Push For School Repairs
West Springfield Was Renovated in the '80s

By Michael Alison Chandler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 15, 2008; VA01



The priority list for renovations of Fairfax County's public schools includes almost 50 schools. West Springfield High is not among them.

That puzzles Kim Cecelski, a West Springfield parent, who recently walked through the 42-year-old facility, pointing out missing ceiling tiles, leaking pipes, sagging brown classroom trailers and a running track that can't be used for competition because it's cracked and uneven.

"We do a great job with what we have," Cecelski said of the high-achieving school. "But it's an old school; that's what it comes down to."

Cecelski is one of hundreds of parents lobbying the school system for a makeover. A recent meeting in the high school's cafeteria drew more than 150 parents, some of whom have children still in elementary or middle school.

Many local officials have rallied to their cause. Fairfax Supervisor Pat S. Herrity (R-Springfield), a West Springfield graduate, is organizing tours of the facility for other elected officials.

He said he is concerned about a "musty smell" in the trailers, classrooms that are "uncomfortably warm" because of antiquated heating and air-conditioning systems and crowding that has forced a guitar class to meet in a hallway.

"Those are the kinds of things that can impact education," Herrity said.

School Board member Elizabeth T. Bradsher (Springfield) said that she thinks the school has been overlooked and that it's time it received some attention.

West Springfield High opened in 1966 and underwent basic repairs in the 1980s.

That touch-up disqualified the school for consideration later, when a consultant developed the school system's priority lists in 1990 and 2000.

But priority lists are getting another look, and the independent review will consider all schools, including West Springfield, that were renovated before 1990.

The school is not guaranteed to make the short list. Competition is steep, with nearly $2 billion worth of repairs needed and only about $155 million a year to do the work. A complete renovation of the school would cost about $65 million, not including additions.

"We want this to be a defensible, rational, transparent process," rather than a political process, said Dean Tistadt, chief operating officer for Fairfax schools.

Meanwhile, efforts by parents and politicians have brought improvements to the school. Workers renovated at least three bathrooms. This summer, they intend to replace insulation around pipes to eliminate leaks and prevent mold and to install a new divider in the gym. They also plan to improve the track so it can be used for competitions. The sign in front of the school, which had been missing an R, will also be replaced.

Until recently, "we slipped through the cracks," said Nancy Baldino, West Springfield's PTA president. "Nobody paid any attention to us, and we never complained." With some help from a new school board member, a new supervisor and a new principal, though, "the stars aligned," she said.

Parent Michelle Nelson-Davis came to the meeting this month with her three children. The family moved to the area last year and chose to move into the West Springfield district because of the school's reputation and test scores.

But when she drove by it for the first time, she said she was "shocked" to see the aging exterior. With her eldest son heading into ninth grade and two more planning to attend, she hopes the renewed efforts can start to turn around the facility.

"It's good to know it's on the administration's radar screen," she said.

Why don't you dumb assholes just read the news? You don't need to cut and paste everyfuckingthing for your little forum friends to read.

Based on this story is WSHS safe? Should it be closed? Who is to blame for this schools condition?


More bull shit from our school board Wrote:
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> More bull shit from our school board and local
> officials.
>
> They are always late on problems, like 15 years.
> What are they going to do now with no money?
>
>
> A Push For School Repairs
> West Springfield Was Renovated in the '80s
>
> By Michael Alison Chandler
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Thursday, May 15, 2008; VA01
>
>
>
> The priority list for renovations of Fairfax
> County's public schools includes almost 50
> schools. West Springfield High is not among them.
>
> That puzzles Kim Cecelski, a West Springfield
> parent, who recently walked through the
> 42-year-old facility, pointing out missing ceiling
> tiles, leaking pipes, sagging brown classroom
> trailers and a running track that can't be used
> for competition because it's cracked and uneven.
>
> "We do a great job with what we have," Cecelski
> said of the high-achieving school. "But it's an
> old school; that's what it comes down to."
>
> Cecelski is one of hundreds of parents lobbying
> the school system for a makeover. A recent meeting
> in the high school's cafeteria drew more than 150
> parents, some of whom have children still in
> elementary or middle school.
>
> Many local officials have rallied to their cause.
> Fairfax Supervisor Pat S. Herrity (R-Springfield),
> a West Springfield graduate, is organizing tours
> of the facility for other elected officials.
>
> He said he is concerned about a "musty smell" in
> the trailers, classrooms that are "uncomfortably
> warm" because of antiquated heating and
> air-conditioning systems and crowding that has
> forced a guitar class to meet in a hallway.
>
> "Those are the kinds of things that can impact
> education," Herrity said.
>
> School Board member Elizabeth T. Bradsher
> (Springfield) said that she thinks the school has
> been overlooked and that it's time it received
> some attention.
>
> West Springfield High opened in 1966 and underwent
> basic repairs in the 1980s.
>
> That touch-up disqualified the school for
> consideration later, when a consultant developed
> the school system's priority lists in 1990 and
> 2000.
>
> But priority lists are getting another look, and
> the independent review will consider all schools,
> including West Springfield, that were renovated
> before 1990.
>
> The school is not guaranteed to make the short
> list. Competition is steep, with nearly $2 billion
> worth of repairs needed and only about $155
> million a year to do the work. A complete
> renovation of the school would cost about $65
> million, not including additions.
>
> "We want this to be a defensible, rational,
> transparent process," rather than a political
> process, said Dean Tistadt, chief operating
> officer for Fairfax schools.
>
> Meanwhile, efforts by parents and politicians have
> brought improvements to the school. Workers
> renovated at least three bathrooms. This summer,
> they intend to replace insulation around pipes to
> eliminate leaks and prevent mold and to install a
> new divider in the gym. They also plan to improve
> the track so it can be used for competitions. The
> sign in front of the school, which had been
> missing an R, will also be replaced.
>
> Until recently, "we slipped through the cracks,"
> said Nancy Baldino, West Springfield's PTA
> president. "Nobody paid any attention to us, and
> we never complained." With some help from a new
> school board member, a new supervisor and a new
> principal, though, "the stars aligned," she said.
>
> Parent Michelle Nelson-Davis came to the meeting
> this month with her three children. The family
> moved to the area last year and chose to move into
> the West Springfield district because of the
> school's reputation and test scores.
>
> But when she drove by it for the first time, she
> said she was "shocked" to see the aging exterior.
> With her eldest son heading into ninth grade and
> two more planning to attend, she hopes the renewed
> efforts can start to turn around the facility.
>
> "It's good to know it's on the administration's
> radar screen," she said.

How is it that WestSpringfield HS has been ignored all these years? Could it be that their school board rep, Belter, did a crappy job? It sure looks like it.

Time for a reality check, parents and taxpayers of Fairfax County. It is a free for all in this school district-back room deals are the order of the day. The poor folks working in facilities and the engineering consultants that we hire to evaluate the condition of our schools take a back seat to the politicians.

We need to stop the madness. SB members like Storck and Bradsher and Gibson who recklessly spend our money on low priority projects need to be put in their place.

This is not the Wild West. Someone please restore order to this school system and let's begin making PRUDENT decisions with the few dollars that we have to spend on our schools. The kids are the ones who are suffering.

How ironic. Here you have all the politicians rallying around West Springfield HS. Tistadt hit the nail on the head-keep the ploticians out of it and let the engineers and qualified facilities folks decide which schools should be on the renovation schedule. Edison and TJ are also is bad shape-WSHS needs to wait their turn.

Maybe if School Board members Storck and Bradsher would stop pleading for a $76 million dollar middle school for SOCO that we don't need, the school system can properly allocate the funds where it is needed.

dude Wrote:
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> 19,000 jobs coming, you dont think possibly some
> of those jobs will not bring families that want to
> be close to where they work?

FYI, of the 19,300 JOBS being shifted to Fort Belvoir from elsewhere in the NCR, approximately 18,800 of them are occupied by people who already live in the region. Even most of the 8,500 NGA folks whose jobs are moving to EPG from Bethesda and other NCR locales already live in Northern Virginia. For a GREAT many of these folks, their jobs are actually moving CLOSER to where they live. So our expectation is that they will NOT move their homes or transfer their kids.

As most folks in this region realize when they actually think it through, we all live at the "seat of government." There are more federal employees concentrated here than are concentrated anywhere else, because this is where their job is. To work here, as we all know, we live all over the place, from Richmond and beyond to the South, to Baltimore and beyond to the north. Unlike what BRAC is doing in other parts of the country (El Paso is getting 23,000 people in at Fort Bliss, all of whom really are coming from way outside that region, most of 'em bringing along at least two kids and at least two cars), in THIS region, like I said, BRAC is just shuffling in a giant "shell game" jobs that are already here.

One more thing: it's important to ANY discussion of BRAC impact on this region to consider that the very same BRAC will REMOVE from this region COMPLETELY another 14,500 DOD jobs to places like Texas, Kentucky, Illinois, etc. We cannot be concerned with how many kids BRAC will bring TO our schools without also giving equal time to consideration of what it will take FROM the schools.

Recommend you check out www.belvoirnewvision.com for a great deal of info you can use to keep up with BRAC-at-Belvoir news.

Don Carr
Director of Public Affairs
Fort Belvoir

Thankd so much for the 411 Don- too bad the morons on our school board didn't read the memo. The figure I saw was a net of MAYBE 50 students.

The irony is that Bradsher and Storck steal the $2 million BRAC planning money for their stupid middle school. If BRAC is such a threat why are we spending the planning money??

We cannot let these people continue to spew false information about this unnecessary school. Bradsher and Storck should be ashamed of themselves.

Connelly better step back and weigh whether he is willing to take on this fight. This issue could hurt him in his election. It shows gross mismanagement of funds.

On the CIP Fort Belvoir had 11 classrooms shortage for the beginning of this school year and [while getting good numbers from the Army] is projected to have a deficit of 19 for 2012. Very few ESOL but about 30% on FRPM?

High numbers of listings from it's teachers on donorschoose.org

Parents in it's PTO do not have a lot of money. Also- while FCPS has schools with higher FRPM all of those parents are not working in offical jobs or contributing to our economy or tax base. Most of the parents are lower middle class - leave the army and they would be lucky to afford a small townhouse.

I am sick of fairfax County complaining about BRAC. Most counties would be happy.

Fort Belvoir extended much hospitality during the fall of the sniper. It became the Fedex field of the FC Youth Football League.

As far as I'm concerned South County "stole" the 2 million BRAC planning money. I expected The Cold War Museum to be built at the Nike site and that is where they now intend to put the middle school. Does this mean no Museum? Unnacceptable.

Lots of schools need renovations and the voting public DOES NOT get full disclosure on the scope of the jobs on referendums. Why didn't the gatehouse gang move into underpopulated schools? Was that even on a referendum or a seeapge through politics? it is in the Providence District just like gatehouse 2. They could sit at Falls Church HS.


Most school divisions are cutting back or deferring new construction -NOT FCPS.

Bradsher's precious HOA school Silverbrook could have had boundary changes back when Lorton Station opened. Spread the wealth - her problem is HER Silverbrook people stick out like a sore thumb.

I'm sick of all this credit taken for SOCO. Domenech's right hand man - Tom Brady- had been part of the Hayfield Pyramid Solutions group. Second most powerful person in FCPS. He left FCPS just before the first SOCO boundary process.

With all the people in the Army you'd think there would be AP and a special focus on math & technology at Mount Vernon instead of IB. The Army should analyze the cost of IB versus AP .

taxpayer Wrote:
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Taxpayer, you must be a blissful person because you certainly are ignorant!

Just a couple of examples of your misunderstandings or outright lies:


> As far as I'm concerned South County "stole" the 2
> million BRAC planning money.

Do you know where the $2 million in "BRAC planning money" came from? I doubt it. It was added to the CIP by the BOS at the request of Supv. Hyland who specifically talked about the need to build the long-planned South County Middle School.

> I expected The Cold
> War Museum to be built at the Nike site and that
> is where they now intend to put the middle school.
> Does this mean no Museum? Unnacceptable.

You might have "expected" it to be built there, but that never was nor is the plan now. It is being built on another part of the former prison property, but the process is slow because it is a private project and money is hard to raise. But it is proceeding. Of course, why not make up new "sins" to blame on the evil people of South County who want to complete their pyramid by building the middle school planned for this newly populated area.
>
> Bradsher's precious HOA school Silverbrook could
> have had boundary changes back when Lorton Station
> opened. Spread the wealth - her problem is HER
> Silverbrook people stick out like a sore thumb.

What in the world are you trying to say here? Was there some nefarious move by Silverbrook NOT to change its boundaries when a non-contiguous school opened? Since both Silverbrook and Lorton Station are BOTH severely overcrowded at the moment, what exactly is your point?? Except, of course, to say that Bradsher, anyone who voted or supported her, all parents of children attending Silverbrook and all parents of children attending South County are EVIL and responsible for most of the problems in Fairfax County. I think they also generate most of the CO2 emissions responsible for global warming!

It's getting a bit redundant, but keep the hate coming... better to let it out here than in a more violant way.

We should implement fines for the false statements and outright lies made on this blog.

The $2 million BRAC planning money was voted on by Fairfax County taxpayers-dumbass. The SB and BOS pleads with the foolishly trusting citizenry of this county that we were going to be positively overwhelmed by this influx of BRAC people. Fear can be a very effective tool used by our politicians.


Now we know better. BRAC is much ado about NOTHING. Instead of doing the fiscally responsible thing, which would be to not fund something we don't need, the slimey SB members "shift" the taxpayer granted funds from pot A to pot B. What an honorable way to do business.

WE DON'T NEED A MIDDLE SCHOOL. Put a GT center for math and science at Mt Vernon and staff it with highly qualified people and the students will be beating the door down to get in.

It is a hell of a lot cheaper than building a $75 million school. I hope the SOCO middle school solution group posts the comments from Don Carr on their website so that they are being truthful with the facts.

Ignorance is just that Wrote:
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> We should implement fines for the false statements
> and outright lies made on this blog.


This is a GREAT idea! The necessary South County Middle School would already be financed thanks to the generosity of two or three prolific-posting SOCOphobes!

More lies from the SOCO whackos. This school is not needed.

Read the letter from Don Carr, then tell me if hate fees is not full of shit.

FYI, of the 19,300 JOBS being shifted to Fort Belvoir from elsewhere in the NCR, approximately 18,800 of them are occupied by people who already live in the region. Even most of the 8,500 NGA folks whose jobs are moving to EPG from Bethesda and other NCR locales already live in Northern Virginia. For a GREAT many of these folks, their jobs are actually moving CLOSER to where they live. So our expectation is that they will NOT move their homes or transfer their kids.

As most folks in this region realize when they actually think it through, we all live at the "seat of government." There are more federal employees concentrated here than are concentrated anywhere else, because this is where their job is. To work here, as we all know, we live all over the place, from Richmond and beyond to the South, to Baltimore and beyond to the north. Unlike what BRAC is doing in other parts of the country (El Paso is getting 23,000 people in at Fort Bliss, all of whom really are coming from way outside that region, most of 'em bringing along at least two kids and at least two cars), in THIS region, like I said, BRAC is just shuffling in a giant "shell game" jobs that are already here.

One more thing: it's important to ANY discussion of BRAC impact on this region to consider that the very same BRAC will REMOVE from this region COMPLETELY another 14,500 DOD jobs to places like Texas, Kentucky, Illinois, etc. We cannot be concerned with how many kids BRAC will bring TO our schools without also giving equal time to consideration of what it will take FROM the schools.

Recommend you check out www.belvoirnewvision.com for a great deal of info you can use to keep up with BRAC-at-Belvoir news.

Don Carr
Director of Public Affairs
Fort Belvoir




Hate Fees Wrote:
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> Ignorance is just that Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We should implement fines for the false
> statements
> > and outright lies made on this blog.
>
>
> This is a GREAT idea! The necessary South County
> Middle School would already be financed thanks to
> the generosity of two or three prolific-posting
> SOCOphobes!

Ignorance Wrote:
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> taxpayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> Taxpayer, you must be a blissful person because
> you certainly are ignorant!

Why flame me? I never said the people were evil.

I added up the numbers on the CIP plus read those furnished by consultants. Compared actual membership with projected. Looked at maps. FYI a portion of Silverbrook is contiguous to Lorton Station.

Please provide a detailed analysis of the project to enlighten the readers on this forum. Also provide sources of re-allocation to find necessary funds for operating budgets etal. The public is just about tapped out in this economy and things look like they are getting worse.

When the new elementary school opens in the Laurel Hill area, Silverbrook boundaries will be primarily made up of FFXSTA residents as the Lorton kids will be at the new ES. At that point, it would be ideal for all of Silverbrook to be redistricted to LB. SC should be for Lorton, Gunston, Halley, Newington Forest, and the new school.

Great idea, but Bradsher will not like it because her kids will then have to go to LBHS.


Halley Wrote:
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> When the new elementary school opens in the Laurel
> Hill area, Silverbrook boundaries will be
> primarily made up of FFXSTA residents as the
> Lorton kids will be at the new ES. At that point,
> it would be ideal for all of Silverbrook to be
> redistricted to LB. SC should be for Lorton,
> Gunston, Halley, Newington Forest, and the new
> school.

I can't wait for Tistadt's report on the capacity numbers in the SOCO area. It should be juicy once we see all the empty chairs in Mt Vernon and Hayfield.

Let's hope Bradsger doesn't try to poison him before he gets it out. It should put an end to this SOCO MS nonsense.

Maybe, maybe not. Her youngest is entering 9th grade next year and the SB almost always grandfathers kids in a school once they are actually in high school for a reshuffle in pre-existing schools. If it's a reboundary because of a new school opening ie SC in '05, up through rising juniors got to go to the new school if their neighborhood switched. So technically Bradsher's kids are safe from the evils of Lake Braddock riffraff.


Great Idea wrote:
Great idea, but Bradsher will not like it because her kids will then have to go to LBHS.


Halley Wrote:
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> When the new elementary school opens in the Laurel
> Hill area, Silverbrook boundaries will be
> primarily made up of FFXSTA residents as the
> Lorton kids will be at the new ES. At that point,
> it would be ideal for all of Silverbrook to be
> redistricted to LB. SC should be for Lorton,
> Gunston, Halley, Newington Forest, and the new
> school.

The people of SOCO believe the students of LBHS are RIFFRAFF.

t wrote:

So technically Bradsher's kids are safe from the evils of Lake Braddock riffraff.

Re: UNnecessary middle school
Posted by: t (IP Logged)
Date: May 16, 2008 08:05PM


Maybe, maybe not. Her youngest is entering 9th grade next year and the SB almost always grandfathers kids in a school once they are actually in high school for a reshuffle in pre-existing schools. If it's a reboundary because of a new school opening ie SC in '05, up through rising juniors got to go to the new school if their neighborhood switched. So technically Bradsher's kids are safe from the evils of Lake Braddock riffraff.

Mr. Carr:

Thanks for weighing in to the discussion of whether there is a need to build South County Middle School. It was good of you to make clear that the U.S. Army is opposed to buidling it.

Since you have access to all the facts necessary to form such an opinion, we would appreciate a bit more information:

How do you define the NCR? Is it by distance to Washington, DC? How many miles?

How many of the 18,800 who are already in the NCR actually live in Virginia? What part of Virginia? What is their current average distance and commute time to Ft. Belvoir?

Although I understand why you state that the Army is not concerned about children, it would be helpful to know what your demographers and planners estimate as the number of children who will come into the NCR, and more specifically the South County school boundary, as well as how many will leave.

This additional information should make clear why the Army opposes building South County Middle School. I'm sure you'll agree that it is important for the residents of South County to know these facts so that they can understand why the Army has taken this position against South County Middle School.

Thanks again, and looking forward to answers to these questions.



Don Carr Wrote:
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> FYI, of the 19,300 JOBS being shifted to Fort
> Belvoir from elsewhere in the NCR, approximately
> 18,800 of them are occupied by people who already
> live in the region. Even most of the 8,500 NGA
> folks whose jobs are moving to EPG from Bethesda
> and other NCR locales already live in Northern
> Virginia. For a GREAT many of these folks, their
> jobs are actually moving CLOSER to where they
> live. So our expectation is that they will NOT
> move their homes or transfer their kids.
>
> As most folks in this region realize when they
> actually think it through, we all live at the
> "seat of government." There are more federal
> employees concentrated here than are concentrated
> anywhere else, because this is where their job is.
> To work here, as we all know, we live all over the
> place, from Richmond and beyond to the South, to
> Baltimore and beyond to the north. Unlike what
> BRAC is doing in other parts of the country (El
> Paso is getting 23,000 people in at Fort Bliss,
> all of whom really are coming from way outside
> that region, most of 'em bringing along at least
> two kids and at least two cars), in THIS region,
> like I said, BRAC is just shuffling in a giant
> "shell game" jobs that are already here.
>
> One more thing: it's important to ANY discussion
> of BRAC impact on this region to consider that the
> very same BRAC will REMOVE from this region
> COMPLETELY another 14,500 DOD jobs to places like
> Texas, Kentucky, Illinois, etc. We cannot be
> concerned with how many kids BRAC will bring TO
> our schools without also giving equal time to
> consideration of what it will take FROM the
> schools.
>
> Recommend you check out www.belvoirnewvision.com
> for a great deal of info you can use to keep up
> with BRAC-at-Belvoir news.
>
> Don Carr
> Director of Public Affairs
> Fort Belvoir

Let me apologize up front for the length of this reply. You've asked important questions. My answer includes two attachments and a couple links to some resources you may find useful.

1) How do you define the NCR? Is it by distance to Washington, DC? How many miles?

For these discussions, it’s best to use the same definition Congress does, from TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES, Sec. 2674: “The term ‘National Capital Region’ means the geographic area located within the boundaries of (A) the District of Columbia, (B) Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties in the State of Maryland, (C) Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William Counties and the City of Alexandria in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and (D) all cities and other units of government within the geographic areas of such District, Counties, and City.”

2) How many of the 18,800 who are already in the NCR actually live in Virginia? What part of Virginia? What is their current average distance and commute time to Ft. Belvoir?

I don’t have the data at my fingertips, but you’ll find it in the Environmental Impact Statement at [http://www.hqda.army.mil/acsim/brac/nepa_eis_docs.htm]. The document includes regional maps showing the breakdown by percentage of where folks live now, commute from, etc. I found it intriguing that a great many of the NGA workers whose jobs are moving to EPG from Bethesda in Montgomery County, for example, already live in and around Tysons Corner and other Northern Virginia ZIP codes.

3) Although I understand why you state that the Army is not concerned about children, it would be helpful to know what your demographers and planners estimate as the number of children who will come into the NCR, and more specifically the South County school boundary, as well as how many will leave.

I didn’t say the Army isn’t concerned about children. Fact is, I have said many times that there is not a parent on the planet more concerned for children and their education than a parent who is a federal employee or member of the military. Again, the estimated number is in the Final EIS. (Wading around in an EIS takes time, especially flipping back and forth to the various maps and tables. But, then again, that’s where a great deal of the data is.) On page 5-21 of the Belvoir EIS, you will find this point, with reference to tables that will show you the breakdown by jurisdiction throughout the NCR:

“Schools. Long-term adverse effects would be expected to occur on off-post schools. Continued regional population growth would increase primary and secondary school age enrollment. Many school districts in the ROI [“Region of Impact”] have schools operating at or above capacity. Portable classrooms are used to provide sufficient classrooms space for the students to maintain student-to-teacher ratios and small class sizes. Although the increased population base would provide education funding through taxes, having sufficient funds to meet the needs of enrollment growth, building new schools, hiring new teachers and other support staff such as guidance counselors, teacher salary agreements, and instructional materials continues to be a challenge because of budget constraints and the rising cost of education. However, other BRAC actions occurring in the ROI would result in the transfer of 14,500 jobs out of the NCR (see Section 5.10.1). An estimated 12,700 school-age children would be associated with these employees and would be moving out of the region, more than the estimated 10,185 children (see Table 4.10-13) that would relocate within the ROI due to the Fort Belvoir BRAC action. The outmigration of these families would reduce the impact of the Fort Belvoir BRAC action on public schools. As noted in Section 5.10.1, even though there would be a loss of personnel in the ROI due to other BRAC actions, it is anticipated that the office space vacated by BRAC personnel would be expected to eventually be backfilled with other office workers (see Section 5.1.3).”

Coincidentally, at about the same time the Corps of Engineers was finishing up the EIS, the Northern Virginia Workforce Investment Board released its own study, done for them by GMU, assessing the impact of BRAC at Fort Belvoir and Quantico. That study found that:

• The net effect by 2011 on southern Fairfax and Prince William Counties is an estimated 677 new workers moving their households into the area and 1,932 new residents living in those households as a result of BRAC actions in Fort Belvoir, Quantico and Bailey’s Crossroads. To place this growth into context, Prince William County alone will likely add more than 60,000 total new residents by 2011. Fairfax will likely add another 24,000 residents. Thus, the likely impact of new residents is relatively small compared with on-going growth in the counties.

• The BRAC actions will likely cause an increase in Prince William school enrollment of about 358 new children, southern Fairfax County can expect an additional 50 more children, and Stafford County might expect nearly 145 new students by 2011. These numbers pale in comparison to the on-going growth occurring in Prince William and Stafford Counties already. During that same period, Prince William is already projected to add about 11,000 new school-aged children and Stafford will likely add about 3,000 to their school enrollments.

The WIB-GMU study is attached below (NoVA_BRAC_Report072207.pdf). Another report, “BRAC 2005: Redefining Virginia’s Military Structure,” is also attached (BRAC_Redefine.pdf).

4) This additional information should make clear why the Army opposes building South County Middle School. I'm sure you'll agree that it is important for the residents of South County to know these facts so that they can understand why the Army has taken this position against South County Middle School.

I am sorry that perception is out there. The Army doesn’t in any way oppose building South County Middle School. There is nothing on record to indicate the Army has ever taken such a position. Again, the parent does not exist who is more concerned for the quality of education of their children than parents who are military or federal employees.

The issue involves a couple of fundamental questions. Is it simply the raw number of kids (whether that number be 50, 268 or 3,258) affiliated with a group of jobs, or is it where they actually reside? Is a community’s need for a school driven by the number of kids in that community, or by the number of households in that community? What Dr Dale said about that in September 2006 (see [http://www.belvoir.army.mil/docs/PAO_Program_wma_65_quality.wmv]) is probably the best answer. The occasion was a Mount Vernon Town Hall held specifically for South County’s residents – ironically, the meeting was at South County High School. When a citizen asked about BRAC impact on schools, Dr Dale said the FCPS depends very heavily on the Board of Supervisors and its approval of planning & zoning measures on where homes can be built. He actually said that, where the post is concerned, it doesn’t matter so much whether there are “5,000, 10,000, even 50,000” new people working there.

The question of impact on schools, then, it seems to me, is not answered so much in knowing a simple number of kids associated with a group of jobs (at Fort Belvoir, at the government center, or at the Wegmans around the corner) as in knowing how many homes there are available for those families to live in.



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Seems like many should be sending letters to the school board and let them know “No South County Middle school” should be built.

What to do with the extra students?

Lake Braddock is near capacity now, don’t know what will happen to the school in a couple of years. Mt. Vernon and Hayfield both have capacity and can take on a lot more students. This will help them out too. The problem is what students will be sent to these schools. The Silverbrook students can not be sent, it is too far for them. The only other students left are the Lorton area. But they do not want to go. What the school board should do is a county wide boundary study; this will re-adjust all surrounding schools. Maybe some Lake Braddock students can be shifted to West Springfield; this will open up space for the Silverbrook area. A county wide boundary study is the only thing to do, and will save a lot of money in the long run. It will make many parents upset, but would they rather have the middle school built? Just a thought.

It is NOT too far for Silverbrook kids to attend Lake Braddock. There are plenty of students in the current Lake Braddock boundaries who drive past Crosspointe to get to LB. Look at the boundary maps. Lake Braddock boundaries extend all the way to Hampton Road, MILES south of Barrington. Roseland is just across 123 from Crosspointe (on the southern side I might add) and that is in LB boundaries as well.

If you look at the enrollments of the schools that feed into LB, you will see much smaller totals than of years past. Those 5th graders of today are the class of 2015. Enrollment is decreasing because the birthrate is decreasing.

SC wouldn't be in this mess if they had not pushed for a high school before its time. The land that is open now was not available in '02. The instigators of the SCSS fiasco should have pushed for property southwest to the property actually used. If Bradsher and Co. had waited their turn, they could have served the needs of the southern areas of Lorton and FFXSTA much better. Instead they settled for land in a rush so that their kids would not have to suffer the Hayfield trauma.

Dirty dozen Wrote:
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> > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Take your pick, their are twelve of them.
> > >
> > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > >
> > > When you put everything together we have a
> > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> degenerate
> > > group of unprofessional School board members

>
> These are the dirty dozen who have screwed both
> parents and students in the FCPS system.
>
> Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully District;
> Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
> Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon District;
> Brad Center, Lee District;
> James L. Raney, At Large;
> Martina Hone, At Large;
> Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence District.

I never said Lake Braddock was too far for the Silverbrook students, I said Hayfield and Mt. Vernon are too far for the Silverbrook students. Lake Braddock could take the Silverbrook students if more room was available. If some Lake Braddock students were sent to West Springfield, Lake Braddock would have room for all of Silverbrook. All of the schools in that area need to have a boundary study. The Lorton people do not want to go to Hayfield or Mt. Vernon. Move some Hayfield students to Mt. Vernon, and move some Springfield students to Hayfield. The school board needs to do a larger boundary study in that area. Save money and don’t build the middle school, do a boundary study and shift students around.

LB is undercapacity now. No kids should have be redistricted from LB to WS to accomodate a redistricting of all of Silverbrook. Silverbrook can be a split feeder just like the majority of FCPS elementary schools.

Lake Braddock is near capacity now, if the school board adds more students to that school, it will be over capacity. Hayfield and Mt. Vernon have empty seats; these schools need the help of the school board. A boundary study in that area is needed. Shifting students from Lake Braddock, West Springfield, Lee, South County, and the other schools will reduce the need for a middle school. It will even out the schools better and save a lot of money. Many parents will be upset, but it’s better than building a middle school.

? Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock is near capacity now, if the school
> board adds more students to that school, it will
> be over capacity. Hayfield and Mt. Vernon have
> empty seats; these schools need the help of the
> school board. A boundary study in that area is
> needed. Shifting students from Lake Braddock, West
> Springfield, Lee, South County, and the other
> schools will reduce the need for a middle school.
> It will even out the schools better and save a lot
> of money. Many parents will be upset, but it’s
> better than building a middle school.`

If you need more facts:

FYI, Fort Belvoir posts a weekly Podcast at our website. Latest edition features information about an upcoming home buying seminar, Doggie Days, and info about upcoming temporary closure of Telegraph Gate. Of course you’ll also get a quick sports update and BRAC Fact of the Week. Download the new podcast from [http://www.belvoir.army.mil/podcast/mp3s/080516.mp3]

Anything is better than building a new middle school but there are more empty seats between LB and Hayfield than surplus students at SC. No need to involve Edison, MV, WP, WS, Lee, Robinson

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> > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
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> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Take your pick, their are twelve of them.
> > > >
> > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > >
> > > > When you put everything together we have a
> > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> > degenerate
> > > > group of unprofessional School board members
>
>
> >
> > These are the dirty dozen who have screwed both
>
> > parents and students in the FCPS system.
> >
> > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully District;
> > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
> > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon District;
>
> > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> District.

Since there is no money in the FCPS bank, then no new school.

Fix the old ones first.



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> > > > -----
> > > > > Take your pick, their are twelve of them.
>
> > > > >
> > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > >
> > > > > When you put everything together we have a
>
> > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> > > degenerate
> > > > > group of unprofessional School board
> members
> >
> >
> > >
> > > These are the dirty dozen who have screwed
> both
> >
> > > parents and students in the FCPS system.
> > >
> > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully District;
>
> > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
> > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> District;
> >
> > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> > District.

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> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Take your pick, their are twelve of them.
>
> > > > >
> > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > >
> > > > > When you put everything together we have a
>
> > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> > > degenerate
> > > > > group of unprofessional School board
> members
> >
> >
> > >
> > > These are the dirty dozen who have screwed
> both
> >
> > > parents and students in the FCPS system.
> > >
> > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully District;
>
> > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
> > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> District;
> >
> > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> > District.

Put Them All in Jail Wrote:

Jail would be to good for this group of fuck ups.
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> them.
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you put everything together we have
> a
> >
> > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> > > > degenerate
> > > > > > group of unprofessional School board
> > members
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > These are the dirty dozen who have screwed
> > both
> > >
> > > > parents and students in the FCPS system.
> > > >
> > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully
> District;
> >
> > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
> > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> > District;
> > >
> > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> > > District.

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> >
> > >
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> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Take your pick, their are twelve of
> > them.
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you put everything together we
> have
> > a
> > >
> > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
> > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > group of unprofessional School board
> > > members
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > These are the dirty dozen who have
> screwed
> > > both
> > > >
> > > > > parents and students in the FCPS system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully
> > District;
> > >
> > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield District;
>
> > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> > > District;
> > > >
> > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> > > > District.

Build Bigger Jails Wrote:

Since we have paid off Storck and Bradsher, we expect a new school regardless of who we fuck.


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> > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are twelve of
> > > them.
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When you put everything together we
> > have
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and morally
>
> > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > group of unprofessional School
> board
> > > > members
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who have
> > screwed
> > > > both
> > > > >
> > > > > > parents and students in the FCPS system.
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully
> > > District;
> > > >
> > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield
> District;
> >
> > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> > > > District;
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner, Providence
> > > > > District.

Read Below Carefully:

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> Since we have paid off Storck and Bradsher, we
> expect a new school regardless of who we fuck.
>
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>
> > -----
> > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > >
> > > Jail would be to good for this group of fuck
> > ups.
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Right On Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Rat Pack Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are twelve
> of
> > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When you put everything together
> we
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and
> morally
> >
> > > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > > group of unprofessional School
> > board
> > > > > members
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who have
> > > screwed
> > > > > both
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > parents and students in the FCPS
> system.
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and Sully
> > > > District;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield
> > District;
> > >
> > > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
> > > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
> > > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount Vernon
> > > > > District;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner,
> Providence
> > > > > > District.

SB is Criminals Wrote:

> >
> > Since we have paid off Storck and Bradsher, we
> > expect a new school regardless of who we fuck.
> >
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jail would be to good for this group of
> fuck
> > > ups.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Right On Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Rat Pack Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are
> twelve
> > of
> > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When you put everything
> together
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and
> > morally
> > >
> > > > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > > > group of unprofessional School
> > > board
> > > > > > members
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who have
> > > > screwed
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > parents and students in the FCPS
> > system.
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and
> Sully
> > > > > District;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield
> > > District;
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
> > > > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville District.
>
> > > > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill District;
>
> > > > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount
> Vernon
> > > > > > District;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner,
> > Providence
> > > > > > > District.

How does the middle school in South County jump the CIP line and now the SB wants WSHS to also jump in front of fifety other schools.

1. I nominate Don Carr for citizen of the year award-he just saved us $75 million bucks.

2. Bradsher is a either a liar or she is incompetent. Either she knew BRAC was a non event or she deliberately misled the public and taxpayers about this school-she will be thrown out on her ass next election for sure.

3. Where's "Honest Abe"?? Awfully silent these days. Maybe now, he can pay attention to some of his other schools.

South County Solution Group better close up shop. And throw Robetory off the citizen panel for boundary studies within FCPS. He clearly has a personal agenda and he does a disservice to this county by looking out for himself. We need objectivem intelligent, fair minded people on these panels.

Now let's figure out how we are going to fix our 55 crumbling schools with an annual budget of $155 million when we need $2 billion.

Stop wasting time talking about this school. Sell the land and let's get all day kindergarten in all of our schools. It is the best investment we can make in our kids.

SB is Criminals Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SB is Criminals Wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Since we have paid off Storck and Bradsher,
> we
> > > expect a new school regardless of who we
> fuck.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jail would be to good for this group of
> > fuck
> > > > ups.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Right On Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Rat Pack Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are
> > twelve
> > > of
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When you put everything
> > together
> > > we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and
> > > morally
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > > > > group of unprofessional
> School
> > > > board
> > > > > > > members
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who
> have
> > > > > screwed
> > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > parents and students in the FCPS
> > > system.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and
> > Sully
> > > > > > District;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield
> > > > District;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock District;
>
> > > > > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville
> District.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill
> District;
> >
> > > > > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount
> > Vernon
> > > > > > > District;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner,
> > > Providence
> > > > > > > > District.

Lets not forget the BOS and other political BS artist.

SB is Corrupt Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SB is Criminals Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SB is Criminals Wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Since we have paid off Storck and Bradsher,
> > we
> > > > expect a new school regardless of who we
> > fuck.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jail would be to good for this group of
> > > fuck
> > > > > ups.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Right On Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Rat Pack Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > Dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are
> > > twelve
> > > > of
> > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > When you put everything
> > > together
> > > > we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical and
> > > > morally
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > > > > > group of unprofessional
> > School
> > > > > board
> > > > > > > > members
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who
> > have
> > > > > > screwed
> > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > parents and students in the
> FCPS
> > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman and
> > > Sully
> > > > > > > District;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher, Springfield
> > > > > District;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock
> District;
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville
> > District.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill
> > District;
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and Mount
> > > Vernon
> > > > > > > > District;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner,
> > > > Providence
> > > > > > > > > District.

I think that the SOCO meatheads should tell the parents and students at these schools how much their 3 year old school needs a $76 million infusion:

Priority List-some have not been renovated for 40 years!!

High Schools-

Woodson, Edison, Marshall, TJ

Middle Schools-

Longfellow, Sandburg, Cooper, Thoreau, Mark Twain, Langston Hughes, Rocky Run

Elementary Schools-

Franklin Sherman, Woodburn, Sleepy Hollow, Freedom Hill, Great Falls, Vienna, Graham Road, Mount Eagle, Beech Tree, Stenwood, West;awn, Franconia, Oakton, Lake Anne, Clifton, Canterbury Woods, Westgate, Springfield Estates, Hollin Meadows, Woodlawn, Herndon, Clermont, Braddock, Terraset, Sunrise Valley, Stratford Landing, Washington Mill, Mt Vernon Woods, Terra Centre, Hybla Valley, Cherry Run, Fox Mill, White Oaks, Brookfield, Forestville, Clearview, Newington Forest and Oak Hill.

Parents of these schools should call your SB member. Demand that this school system preserve the integrity of the CIP and allow the hired engineering consultants to determine which schools deserve funding.

Keep the politicians out of the process.

priority list Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I think that the SOCO meatheads should tell the
> parents and students at these schools how much
> their 3 year old school needs a $76 million
> infusion:

I think some of theh SOCOphobes should stop lying about South County Middle School. This is not a renovation. There is no middle school to renovate! The new communities built in the last 4 years have overflowed the "temporary" secondary school (which is really a high school) and now it is time to build the middle school as was planned before any of the 4,000 new homes were built in this area.

I understand why a few bitter people are jealous that new neighborhoods get new schools, but that was always the plan.

So, stop trying to steal South County Middle School. It's time to complete this school pyramid without cheating the children of South County!

Lets not forget Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lets not forget the BOS and other political BS
> artist.
>
> SB is Corrupt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SB is Criminals Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SB is Criminals Wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Since we have paid off Storck and
> Bradsher,
> > > we
> > > > > expect a new school regardless of who we
> > > fuck.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Put Them All in Jail Wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jail would be to good for this group
> of
> > > > fuck
> > > > > > ups.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > Right On Wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > Rat Pack Wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > Dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > The dirty dozen Wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Take your pick, their are
> > > > twelve
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > THE VERY DIRTY DOZEN.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > When you put everything
> > > > together
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > corrupt, evil,unethical
> and
> > > > > morally
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > degenerate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > group of unprofessional
> > > School
> > > > > > board
> > > > > > > > > members
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > These are the dirty dozen who
> > > have
> > > > > > > screwed
> > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > parents and students in the
> > FCPS
> > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ilryong Moon, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > > Kathy Smith, Vice Chairman
> and
> > > > Sully
> > > > > > > > District;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Elizabeth Bradsher,
> Springfield
> > > > > > District;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Tessie Wilson, Braddock
> > District;
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jane Strauss, Dranesville
> > > District.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Stuart Gibson, Hunter Mill
> > > District;
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Kaye Kory, Mason District;
> > > > > > > > > > > Dan Storck, Chairman and
> Mount
> > > > Vernon
> > > > > > > > > District;
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brad Center, Lee District;
> > > > > > > > > > > James L. Raney, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > > Martina Hone, At Large;
> > > > > > > > > > > Phillip Niedzielski-Eichner,
> > > > > Providence
> > > > > > > > > > District.