FAIRFAX, VA -- The National Rifle Association filed suit today against the Wilmington, Delaware Housing Authority in the case Jane Doe v. Wilmington Housing Authority (WHA). The case centers around the WHA's unconstitutional gun ban amongst its tenants, which denies these public housing residents their Second Amendment rights.

“This is a clear case of discrimination against housing authority residents. It’s illegal, shameful and wrong to deny residents their constitutional rights, and it could have serious life or death consequences,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. “Self-defense is a fundamental, God-given right that every law-abiding American is afforded -- no matter their tax bracket, zip code or street address.”

Wilmington Housing Authority leases contain provisions that prohibit residents from possessing a firearm. Such a restriction is unconstitutional. Thousands of Delaware’s most vulnerable residents live in some of the state’s most dangerous neighborhoods, and have been prohibited from possessing firearms to defend themselves from the drug dealers and thugs who infest their communities. Those who reside on WHA properties risk being evicted should they exercise their Second Amendment freedoms and violate the gun ban, which for many families would mean living on the streets.

NRA has long fought this battle both in the courts and in legislatures around the country, from San Francisco to Washington D.C. NRA has also worked to remove related language from Newark Housing Authority leases.

“A person shouldn't be forced to give up Second Amendment rights just to have a place to live," concluded Cox. “Many public housing projects are high-crime areas where people most desperately need the right to defend themselves.”

1) That is a lame reason to have this in the Fairfax forum, it has nothing to do with us

2) It isn't stupid, SCOTUS already said there is an individual right to own a firearm where you live.

It would seem to me that the drug dealers who have guns are breaking their WHA leases. So the solution would be to evict those gun-toting drug dealers. Then the remaining tenants won't need guns.

However, the inverse also negates the need for the lawsuit. If the drug dealers having guns necessitates the desire for the tenants to have guns, and if in fact the majority of tenants acquire guns for this reason, then the WHA would consequently have to evict everyone or change their own guidelines. Cased closed.

I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone on here been there? I know they have the firearms museum. My question is, Virginia is an open carry state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone
> on here been there? I know they have the firearms
> museum.

The museum is good. I'm not even a gun owner, or NRA fan, but thought the place was really interesting. They have alot of historical firearms, and the museum is well-kept and free.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone
> on here been there? I know they have the firearms
> museum. My question is, Virginia is an open carry
> state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a
> holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?

Of course. They even have a range open to the public. You actually don't need a holster, you can just carry it right on in.

As to FUNdamental's commentary, I am sure he would be outraged if the WHA had lease provisions that denied the tenants 4th Amendment rights and allowed random searches for no reason whatsoever.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone
> on here been there? I know they have the firearms
> museum. My question is, Virginia is an open carry
> state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a
> holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?

I go there all the time to shoot at the range (it's in the basement of the building).

You are correct, Virginia is an open carry statement. Yes, you can open carry into the NRA building (including the museum).

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> > I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has
> anyone
> > on here been there? I know they have the
> firearms
> > museum.
>
> The museum is good. I'm not even a gun owner, or
> NRA fan, but thought the place was really
> interesting. They have alot of historical
> firearms, and the museum is well-kept and free.


I haven't been but have thought about going. I watched "Ground War" on PBS last night. They had an episode on artillery that covered the evolution of guns from bamboo "fire sticks" used by the Chinese to modern artillery. Pretty interesting stuff.

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Look douchebag...The NRA did not do anything stupid.

It is a public non-profit interest group which focus' on protecting second amendment rights...
Now whether or not you agree they should be filing the suit, that is what the organization was founded to do. If they didn't file a suit then they wouldn't be doing their job.

Now do I agree; a bunch of poor-ass minorities in public housing shouldn't have guns, but they do have that right and that's America, so you can take that and shove it.

The NRA is essentially representing its members legal interests and that's why they are members.

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> I haven't been but have thought about going. I
> watched "Ground War" on PBS last night. They had
> an episode on artillery that covered the evolution
> of guns from bamboo "fire sticks" used by the
> Chinese to modern artillery. Pretty interesting
> stuff.

I saw that last night on PBS too, love the show.

Wow, what a fucking waste of a post, law abiding citizens should have the right to bear arms and the NRA is making sure that it's possible so fuck you, you liberal cocksucker.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone
> on here been there? I know they have the firearms
> museum. My question is, Virginia is an open carry
> state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a
> holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?


That would be funny get about 10 people to wear a NRA sucks or Liberal Radical tee shirt with holstered gun and try to gain admittance into the museum. The guns would be unloaded of course, but they wont know it. If one of their idiots shoots to kill, then there would be a real case.

Right, sort of like how outside the NRA headquarters people wearing those shirts get shot and killed all of the time. If only we could trick them into doing it within the confines of that museum!! Then that would be a real cool case!

Radiophile Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has
> anyone
> > on here been there? I know they have the
> firearms
> > museum. My question is, Virginia is an open
> carry
> > state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a
> > holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?
>
>
> That would be funny get about 10 people to wear a
> NRA sucks or Liberal Radical tee shirt with
> holstered gun and try to gain admittance into the
> museum. The guns would be unloaded of course, but
> they wont know it. If one of their idiots shoots
> to kill, then there would be a real case.

It's rather obvious that you have never been to the NRA Hq. I will warn
you that they do have Security Officers on duty who will deal with things
appropriately. Are you repeating the 8th grade again next year?

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> It's rather obvious that you have never been to
> the NRA Hq. I will warn
> you that they do have Security Officers on duty
> who will deal with things
> appropriately. Are you repeating the 8th grade
> again next year?


just quote the NRA's own lawyer “Self-defense is a fundamental, God-given right that every law-abiding American is afforded -- no matter their tax bracket, zip code or street address.” when arriving art the museum.

I need to protect myself against those security guards who may go rogue.

And what happens if a drug dealer is also in the museum, I need to protect myself against that.

And I just know the day I visit the museum, those damn Ruskies will invade - need my gun for that.

And what if an ugly person scares me, need my gun for that.



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the security gaurds at NRA are a bunch of dooshfag rent-a-cops, don't be afraid of these minimum wage pussies. they're lazy and stupid.

And no I have never been to the "new" nra hq. I was at the one on 2nd street was it? - years ago. They moved to fairfax after DC was deemed to dangerous and crime ridden. And the museum was broken into, guns were stolen and many were used in the commission of violent crimes.

See - we need guns to protect ourselves from the NRA!



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Let them all have guns and they can shoot it out with each other. They'll be dead. Problem solved.

Radiophile Wrote:
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> And no I have never been to the "new" nra hq. I
> was at the one on 2nd street was it? - years ago.
> They moved to fairfax after DC was deemed to
> dangerous and crime ridden. And the museum was
> broken into, guns were stolen and many were used
> in the commission of violent crimes.
>
> See - we need guns to protect ourselves from the
> NRA!

Strange. I recall the NRA moving to Fairfax because they were tired of dealing
with DC's stupid gun laws plus the fact that the building wasn't worth
renovating. Can you provide any evidence of the NRA Museum being broken
into? I doubt it.

Why not visit the Museum yourself so you can speak knowledgeably?

http://www.nrablog.com/category/Museum.aspx

ive been to the NRA range in Fairfax. Its a good well kept and stocked facility. Its open to all. You just take a general Firearms safety course and get certified then you can use the range with a NRA member (my dad).

America is being torn apart piece by piece and all those cry babies bitch about how important this gun ban is. I tell you what, when a gun is illegally brought into VA (and it will happen - people find ways no matter what) and holds their family member at gun or knife point, what the fuck are they going to do? Throw darts at them? Ignorance people... ignorance. Don't let our history be thrown away and don't try to argue that point either. It doesn't pertain to your own little world until it happens to you... then you all of a sudden blame the devil or want your second amendment rights back. I praise all of you second amendment supporters.






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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
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> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has
> > anyone
> > > on here been there? I know they have the
> > firearms
> > > museum.
> >
> > The museum is good. I'm not even a gun owner,
> or
> > NRA fan, but thought the place was really
> > interesting. They have alot of historical
> > firearms, and the museum is well-kept and free.
>
>
> I haven't been but have thought about going. I
> watched "Ground War" on PBS last night. They had
> an episode on artillery that covered the evolution
> of guns from bamboo "fire sticks" used by the
> Chinese to modern artillery. Pretty interesting
> stuff.

That was a good series on PBS. Once the machine gun was invented the ground troops were screwed especially the WWI guys when all the kinks were worked out and the things were reliable. The part on the AK47 was eye opening when they buried it in mud and picked it up and started shooting.



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I will NEVER forgive George Bush for backing down on his conservative ideals!

He claimed to be a conservative passionate Christian, and have Christian values - but durring the war in Iraq and still to this day, our tropps march door to door in Iraq taking peoples guns. And tthe citizens in Iraq are in a war zone - they should have all the guns they want - and as powerful as they want, for protection. The gathering of the guns was started durring a Republican administration!!!!!!!

Also, abortion which was mostly banned in old Iraq is now legal.

This CONSERVATIVE started a new country up and took away the guns and made abortion legal. I will never forgive him for this.


Arm the Iraqi's and dont let them have abortions. CONSERVATISM in Iraq!



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As long as we have a government, we need to have guns. That is THE REASON for the second amendment. Any other reason for owning a gun is peripheral to protecting the people from a tyrannical and oppressive government.

"If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens."

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> I will NEVER forgive George Bush for backing down
> on his conservative ideals!
>
> He claimed to be a conservative passionate
> Christian, and have Christian values - but durring
> the war in Iraq and still to this day, our tropps
> march door to door in Iraq taking peoples guns.
> And tthe citizens in Iraq are in a war zone - they
> should have all the guns they want - and as
> powerful as they want, for protection. The
> gathering of the guns was started durring a
> Republican administration!!!!!!!
>
> Also, abortion which was mostly banned in old Iraq
> is now legal.
>
> This CONSERVATIVE started a new country up and
> took away the guns and made abortion legal. I will
> never forgive him for this.
>
>
> Arm the Iraqi's and dont let them have abortions.
> CONSERVATISM in Iraq!

Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss my question. I'm still waiting
for your reply.

"Strange. I recall the NRA moving to Fairfax because they were tired of dealing
with DC's stupid gun laws plus the fact that the building wasn't worth
renovating. Can you provide any evidence of the NRA Museum being broken
into? I doubt it."

Why not visit the Museum yourself so you can speak knowledgeably?

[www.nrablog.com]

Waples Mill Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > I will NEVER forgive George Bush for backing
> down
> > on his conservative ideals!
> >
> > He claimed to be a conservative passionate
> > Christian, and have Christian values - but
> durring
> > the war in Iraq and still to this day, our
> tropps
> > march door to door in Iraq taking peoples guns.
> > And tthe citizens in Iraq are in a war zone -
> they
> > should have all the guns they want - and as
> > powerful as they want, for protection. The
> > gathering of the guns was started durring a
> > Republican administration!!!!!!!
> >
> > Also, abortion which was mostly banned in old
> Iraq
> > is now legal.
> >
> > This CONSERVATIVE started a new country up and
> > took away the guns and made abortion legal. I
> will
> > never forgive him for this.
> >
> >
> > Arm the Iraqi's and dont let them have
> abortions.
> > CONSERVATISM in Iraq!
>
> Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss my
> question. I'm still waiting
> for your reply.
>
> "Strange. I recall the NRA moving to Fairfax
> because they were tired of dealing
> with DC's stupid gun laws plus the fact that the
> building wasn't worth
> renovating. Can you provide any evidence of the
> NRA Museum being broken
> into? I doubt it."
>
> Why not visit the Museum yourself so you can speak
> knowledgeably?
>
>
Fuck off. I stand behind my words. I am NOT an anoymous poster you DUMB FUCKING SHIT ANONYMOUS POSTER!

This appeal from a judgment for the defendants in a wrongful death action challenges two rulings of the District Court. The first refused to instruct the jury that a violation of the District of Columbia Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975, D.C.Code Ann. Secs. 6-2301 to -2380 (1981), could constitute negligence per se or evidence of negligence on the part of a defendant whose stolen target pistol was the instrument of the decedent's death. The second granted judgment non obstante veredicto ("n.o.v.") to the other defendant, the owner of the building from which the gun was stolen. Jurisdiction is asserted under 28 U.S.C. Sec. 1332 (1982).

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* Appellee National Rifle Association ("NRA") maintains its national headquarters in Washington, D.C., consisting of a main building and an annex. The main building contains offices, a firearms museum, a laboratory, and a firing range used for recreational shooting. The annex contains only clerical offices and is connected to the main building by passageways that are closed and locked after business hours.

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Appellee Robert W. Lowe, an NRA employee whose office was in the annex, owned a .22 caliber target pistol and ammunition which he regularly used for recreational shooting at the firing range in the main NRA building. When he left work on November 23, 1979, he left the pistol in his office as he sometimes did, locking it and its ammunition in a closet, and hiding the key to the closet in his desk. That evening, four burglars broke into the annex. In their search of the offices, they found the key to Lowe's closet and stole the gun and ammunition. Four days later, after committing several robberies with the gun, one of the original burglars and an accomplice used it to rob Orlando Gonzalez-Angel. When Gonzalez resisted, the accomplice shot and killed him.

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Appellant Mario S. Romero, administrator of the estate of Gonzalez, filed this diversity action in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia against Lowe and the NRA, seeking damages for Gonzalez' death under the District of Columbia Wrongful Death Act, D.C.Code Ann. Secs. 16-2701 to -2703 (1981), and the District of Columbia Survival Statute, D.C.Code Ann. Sec. 12-101 (1981). At the conclusion of the trial, the judge refused plaintiff's request to instruct the jury that a violation by Lowe of the District of Columbia Firearms Act would constitute either evidence of Lowe's negligence or negligence per se, based on his finding that no violation had occurred.1 The jury found that Lowe was not liable but that the NRA was. The District Court granted the NRA's subsequent motion for judgment n.o.v. on the grounds that the NRA did not owe any duty of care to Gonzalez and that the NRA's conduct was not the proximate cause of his death.

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Romero appeals the judgment for Lowe on the ground that the trial court erred in refusing to give the requested instruction. He appeals the judgment for the NRA on the ground that the court erred in setting aside the jury's verdict.

II

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We turn first to the directed verdict granted to the defendant NRA. The parties and the District Court have assumed throughout this litigation that the substantive law applicable to this diversity action2 is that of the District of Columbia. Absent objection, we assume that to be correct. See Wilson v. Johns-Manville Sales Corp., 684 F.2d 111, 114 n. 11 (D.C.Cir.1982).

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Under District of Columbia law, three elements are required to render the NRA liable on a negligence theory for damages arising from Gonzalez' death: (1) a duty, owed by the defendant to the plaintiff, to conform to a certain standard of care; (2) a breach of this duty by the defendant; and (3) an injury to the plaintiff proximately caused by the defendant's breach. See O'Neil v. Bergan, 452 A.2d 337, 341 (D.C.1982). Consideration of only the first and third is essential to our disposition of this appeal. Here and in the District Court the parties have assumed that both of these elements are questions of fact for the jury, and we accept that proposition without deciding it.3 Thus, duty of care and proximate causation were only proper issues for the court and only proper grounds for judgment n.o.v. if "the evidence, together with all inferences that can reasonably be drawn therefrom [was] so one-sided that reasonable men could not disagree on the verdict," Vander Zee v. Karabatsos, 589 F.2d 723, 726 (D.C.Cir.1978), cert. denied, 441 U.S. 962, 99 S.Ct. 2407, 60 L.Ed.2d 1066 (1979).

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In the District of Columbia, a defendant can be held liable for damages resulting from intervening acts of third parties "f the danger of an intervening negligent or criminal act should have reasonably been anticipated and protected against ...." St. Paul Fire & Marine Insurance Co. v. James G. Davis Construction Corp., 350 A.2d 751, 752 (D.C.1976). However, when the intervening act involves criminal, rather than negligent, conduct by a third party, the ability to anticipate (or foresee) the intervention with the normally required degree of specificity is not enough. " 'The question is not simply whether a criminal event is foreseeable, but whether a duty exists to take measures to guard against it ... [, which] is ultimately a question of fairness.' " Cook v. Safeway Stores, 354 A.2d 507, 509-10 (D.C.1976) (quoting Goldberg v. Housing Authority of Newark, 38 N.J. 578, 583, 186 A.2d 291, 293 (1962)) (emphasis in original). Cook held that Safeway was not liable for injuries suffered by a victim of an attempted robbery in one of its stores. The principle of fairness it enunciated was reformulated in a later case, in order to sustain a jury instruction requiring that the particular type of injury be foreseeable. In Lacy v. District of Columbia, 424 A.2d 317 (D.C.1980), a District of Columbia schoolgirl who was sexually assaulted by a janitor brought suit for negligence against a schoolteacher, a guidance counselor, the school principal, and the District as employer. The court held that there was no prejudicial error in an instruction requiring the jury to find that assault, rather than merely harm in general, was foreseeable before the defendants could be found liable for the janitor's criminal actions:

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ecause of the extraordinary nature of criminal conduct, the law requires that the foreseeability of the risk be more precisely shown. Thus, although normally the "defendant need not have foreseen the precise injury, nor 'should [he] have had notice of the particular method' in which a harm would occur," in order to establish proximate cause, unless the assault was foreseeable, the defendants in this case had no duty to act.

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Id. at 323 (quoting Kendall v. Gore Properties, Inc., 236 F.2d 673, 682 (D.C.Cir.1956)) (footnote omitted).4 The court suggested in dictum that the foreseeability of specifically sexual assault might even be necessary, observing that "it is arguable that the court, by conditioning liability on the foreseeability of 'assaults' rather than the foreseeability of 'sexual assaults,' was more helpful to appellants than the law permits." 424 A.2d at 323-24. Lacy described Cook as an application of its specific foreseeability standard, see id. at 323, though it seems to us more reasonable to regard Lacy as one application of Cook's fairness standard.

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Whether expressed in terms of fairness or specific foreseeability, the District of Columbia rule requires that judgment be entered in favor of the NRA. The recent en banc decision of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals in Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C.1983), is instructive. Plaintiff was kidnapped by her husband, a District of Columbia police officer, who shot her while being taken into custody. Three months before the incident, she had told the police that her husband had threatened her with a gun, and during the two years before that she had several times reported family arguments and beatings. Plaintiff sued the District and received a favorable jury verdict, which was set aside by judgment n.o.v. The Court of Appeals affirmed the trial judge's ruling on the alternate ground that the police department's actions (or failures to act) "were not, as a matter of law, the proximate cause of [plaintiff's] injuries." 468 A.2d at 1318. The court held that "[a] defendant may not be held liable for harm actually caused where the chain of events leading to the injury appears 'highly extraordinary in retrospect.' " Id. at 1318 (quoting from Lacy v. District of Columbia, 424 A.2d at 321). The court found the facts of Morgan sufficiently extraordinary:

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That Officer Morgan would, three months later, show up on her doorstep and subsequently shoot her while being taken into police custody--after not having done so during the previous two years of marital arguments nor having wrongfully fired his weapon during five years on the force--describes a chain of events that is, in retrospect, highly extraordinary.

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468 A.2d at 1318.

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The chain of events in this case is equally, if not more, extraordinary and unforeseeable, encompassing Lowe's storage of the weapon, a burglary of the annex, a search of Lowe's desk, discovery of his hidden closet key, a search of the closet, discovery of the gun and ammunition, use of the gun in a robbery, Gonzalez' resistance to the robbery, and the ultimate murder of Gonzalez by someone not a party to the original burglary. Whether or not this sequence of events would be foreseeable under the applicable legal standard if intervening acts of negligence were involved, given the intervention of at least four criminal acts, for the NRA "[t]o foresee the convergence of all these events, especially the murder, would constitute an act of prophecy, one based not on reasonable likelihood, but on sheer conjecture." Romero v. National Rifle Association of America, Inc., Civil No. 80-2576, mem. op. at 21 (D.D.C. July 1, 1982) ("mem. op.").

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We are unpersuaded by plaintiff's argument that judgment n.o.v. was improper because the jury should have been allowed to infer constructive knowledge of the overnight presence of guns in the annex from the proximity of the firing range in the main NRA building and the absence of written warnings or instructions to employees to take their weapons home at night. Brief for Appellants at 28-29. Even if correct, the argument goes only to the ability of the NRA to foresee the storage of guns at the annex, not to its ability to foresee the theft of guns, and the other events in the casual chain leading to Gonzalez' murder. On plaintiff's reasoning, the owner of any building, if on actual or constructive notice that some of his employees were using the NRA firing range, would be required to take precautions beyond locking the building and barring the windows or else face liability for criminal acts perpetrated with stolen guns.5 Indeed, so would any homeowner who possesses a personal firearm. At oral argument, counsel for plaintiff suggested that the latter might be the law, citing as analogous authority Palmisano v. Ehrig, 171 N.J.Super. 310, 313-14, 408 A.2d 1083, 1085 (Super.Ct.App.Div.1979), cert. denied, 82 N.J. 287, 412 A.2d 793 (1980). But Palmisano involved an intervening act of negligence, not intervening criminal acts, and its holding that "plaintiffs are not required to demonstrate that the precise events could have been foreseen; they are only required to demonstrate that some harm might reasonably be anticipated," 171 N.J.Super. at 313-14, 408 A.2d at 1085, is flatly contrary to the District of Columbia rule governing liability for the criminal acts of third parties.

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In short, the NRA was entitled to the benefit of the general rule of nonliability at common law for harm resulting from the criminal acts of third parties. See Kline v. 1500 Massachusetts Ave. Apartment Corp., 439 F.2d 477, 481 (D.C.Cir.1970); Hall v. Ford Enterprises, Ltd., 445 A.2d 610, 611 (D.C.1982). The only District cases departing from that rule involved either a special relationship between the parties to the suit--for example, the relationship of landlord-tenant in Kline, which gave the landlord exclusive control over modifications to common facilities such as outside doors and vestibules, and thus foreclosed tenants from taking precautions against crime--or a relationship of control between the defendant and the intervening criminal actor--as, for example, in Hicks v. United States, 511 F.2d 407 (D.C.Cir.1975), in which a hospital negligently caused the release of a potentially violent patient. While the District of Columbia Court of Appeals recently declined to "reach the issue of whether liability for the criminal acts of third parties can be imposed on the basis of negligence in the absence of a relationship between the parties," Hall v. Ford Enterprises, Ltd., 445 A.2d at 611, it has indicated that cases involving special relationships are fundamentally different, id. at 611 n. 4. See also Cook v. Safeway Stores, 354 A.2d at 510. No such factor exists here, and we think the general rule of no liability for the criminal acts of others governs. The District Court properly set aside the judgment against the NRA.

III

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We next turn to appellant's attack upon the jury verdict for Lowe. In objecting to the District Court's failure to instruct the jury that Lowe's violation of the D.C. Firearms Act was either per se negligence or at least evidence of negligence, appellant is asking us to posit a legislative purpose of rendering persons liable for the independent criminal acts of others. Such a purpose is of course possible. See Ross v. Hartman, 139 F.2d 14, 16 (D.C.Cir.1943), cert. denied, 321 U.S. 790, 64 S.Ct. 790, 88 L.Ed. 1080 (1944) (truck owner who left keys in ignition in violation of traffic ordinance held liable for damage negligently caused by third party who had stolen the vehicle; "[t]he fact that the intermeddler's conduct was itself a proximate cause of the harm, and was probably criminal, [was] immaterial"). We think, however, that the District of Columbia courts would require such a purpose to appear with a clarity that is not present here.

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Lowe's offense, if there was any, consisted of violation of the following provision:

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(a) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, no person or organization shall within the District receive, possess, have under his control, transfer, offer for sale, sell, give, or deliver any destructive device, and no person or organization shall, within the District possess or have under his or its control any firearm, unless such person or organization is the holder of a valid registration certificate for such firearm.

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D.C.Code Ann. Sec. 6-2311(a) (1981).6 It is not at all apparent that a purpose of this registration requirement is to prevent criminal acts with stolen firearms. The statutory requirements for registration contain many disqualifications bearing upon the registrant's own responsible use of the weapon (e.g., conviction of certain crimes, adjudication as chronic alcoholic, commitment to mental institution, adjudication of negligence in a firearm mishap causing injury, lack of knowledge of the laws of the District pertaining to safe and responsible use of firearms, and even faulty vision, see id. at Sec. 6-2313d(a)), but none that appears designed to render the weapons secure against theft. By contrast, the provisions of the Act pertaining to licensed firearms dealers do contain requirements that relate to the safeguarding of weapons from theft. See id. at Sec. 6-2347(a) ("[n]o licensed dealer shall display any firearm or ammunition in windows visible from a street or sidewalk," and all such devices "shall be kept at all times in a securely locked place affixed to the premises except when being shown to a customer, being repaired, or otherwise being worked on"). The only provision relating to the storage of weapons by owners is Sec. 6-2372, which requires firearms kept at home to be unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock--which renders them less likely to cause home accidents or acts of violence by family members, but hardly less vulnerable to theft. The legislative history of the Act contains no mention of theft of personal firearms. See District of Columbia Council Committee on the Judiciary and Criminal Law, Report to the Council of the District of Columbia of 1976, at 2-6 (Apr. 21, 1976) ("Report"). It sets forth the general purpose of "reduc[ing] the potentiality for gun-related crimes and ... deaths," id. at 2, but that seems less likely to refer to the prevention of theft than to the "new and stringent [registration] criteria [which] relegate guns ... to demonstrably responsible types of persons." Id. It points out that very few guns used in crimes and recovered by the police are registered, id. at 5--but again, that seems less designed to suggest that registered guns are rarely stolen than to suggest that registered owners are rarely criminals.

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Appellant's case is not bolstered by Sec. 6-2312 of the Act, which prohibits the registration of pistols not validly registered when the Act became effective in 1976. It seems to us questionable whether Sec. 6-2311, the registration provision allegedly violated here, can be deemed to have different purposes with regard to the various types of firearms that it covers, but even assuming that possibility, the ban on the registration of handguns, like the ban on the registration of sawed-off shotguns and machine guns (also contained in Sec. 6-2312), is not obviously attributable to a fear of theft. The legislative history suggests, if anything, the contrary, saying that the registration ban "denotes a policy decision that ... handguns and shotguns have no legitimate use in the ... District," Report at 13.

22
In sum, neither the nature of the provision in question nor its legislative history clearly indicates a purpose of preventing crimes by gun-thieves. In this respect it differs fundamentally from such enactments as the prohibition against leaving keys in unattended cars, see Gaither v. Myers, 404 F.2d 216, 220-21 (D.C.Cir.1968); Ross v. Hartman, 139 F.2d at 15-16, the requirement that employment agencies "record the servant's address and ... investigate her references," Janof v. Newsom, 53 F.2d 149, 150 (D.C.Cir.1931), and the prohibition against a bar owner's serving alcoholic beverages to one who is intoxicated, see Marusa v. District of Columbia, 484 F.2d 828, 833 (D.C.Cir.1973), all of which have been held to support liability for the criminal acts of third persons. With such enactments it was clear that the third-party criminal conduct was "the very injury ... which the statute intended to prevent," Janof v. Newsom, 53 F.2d at 152. That is not clear here. As discussed in Section II of this opinion, civil liability for the intervening, independent criminal acts of third parties is extraordinary, and District of Columbia courts, in their development of common-law tort rules, have imposed especially stringent requirements to support it. See Lacy v. District of Columbia, 424 A.2d at 323-24. We think they would similarly require a clear indication of a statutory purpose producing such liability. Since that does not exist here, the trial judge was correct in deeming the Firearms Act irrelevant. His denial of the requested instruction was proper, and the jury verdict for Lowe was rightly sustained.

23
For the foregoing reasons, the judgments in favor of both defendants must be

24
Affirmed.

1
The court also refused to permit the jury to consider the plaintiff's strict liability theory and claims for punitive damages. These rulings are not challenged on appeal

2
See 28 U.S.C. Sec. 1332 (1982). Defendant NRA is a New York corporation, with its principal place of business in the District of Columbia. Defendant Lowe resides in Maryland. Plaintiff Romero is a resident of Virginia, and the beneficiaries of the estate he administers reside in Texas

3
This appears to be the District of Columbia rule on both issues. See Graham v. M & J Corp., 424 A.2d 103, 104 (D.C.1980). With regard to duty of care, District law appears to depart from the weight of authority. See W. PROSSER, LAW OF TORTS Sec. 45 at 289 (4th ed. 1971). In light of the parties' failure to contest and brief the point, we decline to consider whether Erie R.R. v. Tompkins, 304 U.S. 64, 58 S.Ct. 817, 82 L.Ed. 1188 (1938), requires the federal forum to apply its own rules to these issues. See Byrd v. Blue Ridge Rural Electric Cooperative, Inc., 356 U.S. 525, 533-40, 78 S.Ct. 893, 898-902, 2 L.Ed.2d 953 (1958)

4
As this passage indicates, it makes no difference whether we discuss the NRA's liability in terms of duty of care or proximate causation, "since the fundamental analysis appears to remain constant ... whether we speak of an attenuated chain of cause and effect ... or the actor's obligation toward the party he may injure." Munson v. Otis, 396 A.2d 994, 996 (D.C.1979) (per curiam). This is merely an acknowledgment that the division of tort analysis into the constituent elements of duty, breach, and causation--or into "negligence" and "causation"--is largely artificial. See Graham v. M & J Corp., 424 A.2d at 107 ("the issue of causation is subsumed in the issue of duty"); W. PROSSER,, supra, Sec. 42 at 245 (when dealing with questions of duty of care and proximate causation, "circumlocution is unavoidable, since all of these questions are, in reality, one and the same")

5
Plaintiff expressly disclaimed any theory based on an agency relationship between Lowe and the NRA. See mem. op. at 9 n. 4. Hence, it is ownership of the annex, not ownership of the main building with the firing range or the employment relationship between the parties, that is relevant in this case

6
Appellant insists that Lowe violated, not Sec. 6-2311(a), but Sec. 6-2311(b)(3), which exempts a nonresident of the District from the registration requirements if he is "participating in any lawful recreational firearm-related activity in the District, or on his way to or from such activity in another jurisdiction." See Reply Brief for Appellant at 15. It is, to be charitable, peculiar to suggest that an individual can be charged with failure to qualify under an exemption to a criminal statute rather than with violation of the statute itself, and we thus consider Sec. 6-2311(b)(3) irrelevant to our analysis



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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I've always wondered about the NRA HQ. Has anyone
> on here been there? I know they have the firearms
> museum. My question is, Virginia is an open carry
> state, correct? Are you allowed to bring a
> holstered weapon into the NRA HQ?


They have a firing range too, so at least in regard to that, yea.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

Radiophile Wrote:
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> I will NEVER forgive George Bush for backing down
> on his conservative ideals!
>
> He claimed to be a conservative passionate
> Christian, and have Christian values - but durring
> the war in Iraq and still to this day, our tropps
> march door to door in Iraq taking peoples guns.
> And tthe citizens in Iraq are in a war zone - they
> should have all the guns they want - and as
> powerful as they want, for protection. The
> gathering of the guns was started durring a
> Republican administration!!!!!!!
>
> Also, abortion which was mostly banned in old Iraq
> is now legal.
>
> This CONSERVATIVE started a new country up and
> took away the guns and made abortion legal. I will
> never forgive him for this.
>
>
> Arm the Iraqi's and dont let them have abortions.
> CONSERVATISM in Iraq!


The allied militias were allowed to keep their guns. As for the disarming of people, that is necessary during war in a foreign locale. However, as I said, those allied with us in Iraq were in fact allowed to keep weapons.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).



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Im no fan of George Bush, but...


RELEASE No. 20100506-02
May 6, 2010
"Iraqi law, which allows each household only one weapon."
http://www.usf-iraq.com/news/press-releases/us-assists-iraqi-security-forces-clearing-city-of-hit


AND Iraqis can own personal firearms since atleas 2005...


American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Feb. 11, 2005 –
"Iraqi citizens can own an AK-47 assault rifle as long as it's registered"
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=25921

somepeople Wrote:
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> Im no fan of George Bush, but...
>
>
> RELEASE No. 20100506-02
> May 6, 2010
> "Iraqi law, which allows each household only one
> weapon."
> http://www.usf-iraq.com/news/press-releases/us-ass
> ists-iraqi-security-forces-clearing-city-of-hit
>
>
> AND Iraqis can own personal firearms since atleas
> 2005...
>
>
> American Forces Press Service
> WASHINGTON, Feb. 11, 2005 –
> "Iraqi citizens can own an AK-47 assault rifle as
> long as it's registered"
> http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=25
> 921

So, what you are essentially saying is "Radiophile is wrong." Hmm. Go figure.He should also look up the definition of "anonymous." Unless his parents named him Radiophile, he needs to use the term unregistered.

unregistered and anonymous Wrote:
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> So, what you are essentially saying is "Radiophile
> is wrong." Hmm. Go figure.He should also look up
> the definition of "anonymous." Unless his parents
> named him Radiophile, he needs to use the term
> unregistered.


Too bad you don't have the balls to register a valid name and email address fukrtard.

And what would the NRA say to lawmakers in VA restricting citizens to one AK47 or firearm per person for their own protection?

Radiophile Wrote:
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> unregistered and anonymous Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > So, what you are essentially saying is
> "Radiophile
> > is wrong." Hmm. Go figure.He should also look
> up
> > the definition of "anonymous." Unless his
> parents
> > named him Radiophile, he needs to use the term
> > unregistered.
>
>
> Too bad you don't have the balls to register a
> valid name and email address fukrtard.
>
> And what would the NRA say to lawmakers in VA
> restricting citizens to one AK47 or firearm per
> person for their own protection?


It isn't the United States, it's IRAQ, and it's a WAR, so you can't compare the two.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > unregistered and anonymous Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > So, what you are essentially saying is
> > "Radiophile
> > > is wrong." Hmm. Go figure.He should also
> look
> > up
> > > the definition of "anonymous." Unless his
> > parents
> > > named him Radiophile, he needs to use the
> term
> > > unregistered.
> >
> >
> > Too bad you don't have the balls to register a
> > valid name and email address fukrtard.
> >
> > And what would the NRA say to lawmakers in VA
> > restricting citizens to one AK47 or firearm per
> > person for their own protection?
>
>
> It isn't the United States, it's IRAQ, and it's a
> WAR, so you can't compare the two.

The war is over. Mission Accomplished. GWB told me so.