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So help me out here folks--what's the scam? I was at a WaWa filling up and as I'm finishing, guy walks around from the other side of the pump and says something like, "Excuse me sir? I wonder if you could help me. I'm up here from Miami, Florida, and right over here next to you I have a [year and make of van] that I rented from the Reagan National Airport, and it turns out they put a $100 hold on my card, even though they weren't supposed to, so I was wondering if you could just help me out and pump me $5 of gas so I can get back."
Me: "Uh, what? Can you go through that again."
He does, adding the detail that he's "military," and because of that they DEFINITELY shouldn't have put the hold on his card. Note that he's fairly well dressed--like maybe he was headed out to a Miami club. Had a silver crucifix prominently displayed outside his shirt. Looks to be in his late 40s, maybe early 50s.
Now, nothing in this story really adds up.
- There's no rule about not putting holds on military cards.
- If he were in the military someone that old would be in better financial shape.
- How does a $100 hold prevent you from buying gas? Most people have multiple cards?
- The obvious crucifix seemed like a ploy to prey on Christian sympathies.
- NOW you figure out there's a $100 hold on your card?
- Holds for rental vehicles are more than $100.
I told him, "Yeah, I think I'm not interested."
"What?"
"I don't believe I'd like to help you. I'm not interested in buying your gas. Sorry."
He stood there dumbfounded and said, "Oh wow. That's really interesting how you say that. OK, I get it, you've had trouble before. OK, that's fine." and he wandered off.
Now obviously this is a scam, but what's the scam? Just getting $5 of gas? Did he have a skimmer in the reader and he just wanted to see me punch in my zip code? Is the plan to then distract me while I'm pumping, make me think the transaction is over then keep pumping when I leave?
I can't figure it out, and didn't have time to sit there and puzzle it out, otherwise I would've gladly spent $5 to help someone out. If someone needs $5 that badly I'll give it to them, but I don't want to get scammed for $100s. Anyone run into this or know what the gag is?
I would have likely just shot him right there at the pump, or at least popped him in the Chiclets with the butt end of my 1911. I don't cotton to these types with their sob stories about money. You want to hear my sob story, pal? After 9/11, I figured I would put a lot of my investment income in United Airlines. All the airlines started slipping and I thought it was easy pickings.I figured I would buy low and sell high after about two years. Nope, those bastards filed bankruptcy and I lost every fucking penny. And you want five fucking dollars?
Trigger Happy Tate Wrote:
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> I would have likely just shot him right there at
> the pump, or at least popped him in the Chiclets
> with the butt end of my 1911. I don't cotton to
> these types with their sob stories about money.
> You want to hear my sob story, pal? After 9/11, I
> figured I would put a lot of my investment income
> in United Airlines. All the airlines started
> slipping and I thought it was easy pickings.I
> figured I would buy low and sell high after about
> two years. Nope, those bastards filed bankruptcy
> and I lost every fucking penny. And you want five
> fucking dollars?
I DO NOT feed the trolls. The more people hand out to these scumbags, the more they continue to try and shake people down.
I always check out the intersection beggars here is FFX and Arlington and see how they have nicer clothes than I usually wear. Timberland boots or Nike shoes, Levis, North Face jackets, bluetooth ear pieces and so on.
Hell I wear $15 Costco jeans, no name brand footwear and no other accessories.
And the stage props are just as crazy. Crutches, hard boots, arms in slings, bandages on the head.
Who are all the IDIOTS that fall for this crap and continue to feed the trolls.
If the scum was not given money, they would not keep showing up.
VX3FH Wrote:
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> Simple, sorry dude, can't help you out.
>
> I DO NOT feed the trolls. The more people hand out
> to these scumbags, the more they continue to try
> and shake people down.
>
> I always check out the intersection beggars here
> is FFX and Arlington and see how they have nicer
> clothes than I usually wear. Timberland boots or
> Nike shoes, Levis, North Face jackets, bluetooth
> ear pieces and so on.
>
> Hell I wear $15 Costco jeans, no name brand
> footwear and no other accessories.
>
> And the stage props are just as crazy. Crutches,
> hard boots, arms in slings, bandages on the head.
>
>
> Who are all the IDIOTS that fall for this crap and
> continue to feed the trolls.
>
> If the scum was not given money, they would not
> keep showing up.
If you are unsatisfied with your lot in life, you only need to blame one person.
I've had similar situations happen twice and the first was at least 3 years ago so this has been going on a long time. The first time I was at an ATM and was approached by a young man in a suit, long story about being here for training and showing me his paperwork (when I didn't ask to see it) and needing to get to the metro. Only asking for $5. I was depositing a check and my husband saw the guy approach and got out of the car and told him we didn't have any cash (at an ATM).
I'm not sure what they are after but something is up. I wish the world was a safer place and we could offer someone a ride but in this day and age the risk is too high, in my opinion.
It's safer to give to charities that you research and trust. It's too bad that kindness has come at a high (and often physical) cost to so many that we now have to be on high alert.
Can't flim-flam a smart man Wrote:
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> I can't figure it out, and didn't have time to sit
> there and puzzle it out, otherwise I would've
> gladly spent $5 to help someone out. If someone
> needs $5 that badly I'll give it to them, but I
> don't want to get scammed for $100s. Anyone run
> into this or know what the gag is?
you shoulda put him in a headlock to see if he could fight his way out of it. a real military guy could wrestle his way out of that no problem.
When you swipe your debit or credit card at the pump, the terminal checks to see if your card is valid and if you have enough money (or credit) on your account to complete the purchase–just like it would if you swiped your card at the grocery store. The difference between the two types of transactions, however, is that the grocery store knows exactly how much the total bill will be and places a hold of that amount on your account until the transaction is settled. If your bill is $43.51, for example, the hold (called a “pre-authorization charge”) will also be for $43.51.
At the gas pump, however, the system does not know how much it will cost to fill up your tank, so it makes a guess. A typical pre-authorization charge at a gas pump is about $75. If your gift card has a balance that is less than the pre-authorization charge, the gift card will be declined.
So the guy needs $5 in gas which is less then two gallons of gas. He has a nice surprise waiting for him at the rental place. Unless the tank is filled up they will do it and be happy to charge him around $4 a gallon to top it off.
Whenever these kinds of people start in on me I grab the .357 and just keep it ready. They usually don't see it but their actions going forward as I ignore them determine how familiar they will become with it.
Sam Mann Wrote:
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> So the guy needs $5 in gas which is less then two
> gallons of gas. He has a nice surprise waiting
> for him at the rental place. Unless the tank is
> filled up they will do it and be happy to charge
> him around $4 a gallon to top it off.
AnthonyCumia Wrote:
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> Fuck those gypsies.
>
> Fairfax County also needs to outlaw those gypsy
> fucks standing at red lights with their fake leg
> casts and canes.
Sam Mann believes them and gives them money at every opportunity.
I remember how last year I almost lost my money by trusting an asshole at an investor forum. He was so convincing that I believed him and invested a considerable sum in his enterprise which later turned out to be false and he was a fraud. I was lucky that my friend is also interested in this business and he immediately identified him as a liar and dissuaded me from such a dubious transaction. Then my friend recommended me a reliable company in which he has been investing for several years. Thanks to https://behindscam.com/ I have secured a passive income by investing in a good business. Therefore it is better to trust people who live up to their reputation
Liquidat1on Wrote:
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> I remember how last year I almost lost my money by
> trusting an asshole at an investor forum. He was
> so convincing that I believed him and invested a
> considerable sum in his enterprise which later
> turned out to be false and he was a fraud. I was
> lucky that my friend is also interested in this
> business and he immediately identified him as a
> liar and dissuaded me from such a dubious
> transaction. Then my friend recommended me a
> reliable company in which he has been investing
> for several years. Thanks to
> https://behindscam.com/ I have secured a passive
> income by investing in a good business. Therefore
> it is better to trust people who live up to their
> reputation
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