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Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: January 10, 2007 02:42PM

They actually said they were doing this for a long time. I just forgot until now. No more smoking in any bars/restruants/clubs in dc.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: ben ()
Date: January 14, 2007 10:48AM

Enshallah. I'm one of the many that can't stand it. Especially after I developed Bronchitis from being exposed to too much cigarette smoke.

New York City and Dublin were both brilliant- no dry eyes, coughing, or rank clothing the next day.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 15, 2007 05:56PM

i have to agree that the ban is a good thing. coming home from a restaurant and realizing your clothes smell of smoke from sitting in the non-smoking section really sucks. to the smokers that are upset by this, boo-fucking-hoo.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: January 15, 2007 06:53PM

I agree as well. I don't like sitting down to dinner and smelling the smoke from the person across the room. It makes for a very unpleasant meal. I think we all know and understand the dangers of smoking and second hand smoke. I believe if a person still chooses to jeopardize their health and still smoke, it is up to them. They have that right. They do not have the right to kill me, however. It takes maybe 10 minutes to smoke a cigarette. Step outside if the urge hits. Common curtesy.
I am a former smoker. Second time quitting. I really plan on making it the last.
Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Good Speller ()
Date: January 15, 2007 07:03PM

SaMiViMa Wrote:
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>It takes maybe 10 minutes to
> smoke a cigarette.

You're kidding, right?

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: January 15, 2007 07:13PM

Why would you say he was kidding?

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Good Speller ()
Date: January 15, 2007 07:15PM

I said he had to be kidding because it doesn't take 10 minutes to smoke a cigarette--as a former smoker he should know that.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: January 15, 2007 07:59PM

Leaving the table, going outside, smoking a cigarette, and coming back could easily take ten minutes.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: January 15, 2007 08:04PM

I smoked a cigarette in 10 minutes. And I am a she.
I could actually, at one time, smoke 2 cigarettes in a 15 minute break.
I am so happy I gave that up. I breath easier and my sense of smell has returned. : D

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Good Speller ()
Date: January 15, 2007 08:12PM

pgens Wrote:
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> Leaving the table, going outside, smoking a
> cigarette, and coming back could easily take ten
> minutes.


Yeah, if you are in a fucking wheelchair.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Good Speller ()
Date: January 15, 2007 08:14PM

SaMiViMa Wrote:
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> I smoked a cigarette in 10 minutes. And I am a
> she.
> I could actually, at one time, smoke 2 cigarettes
> in a 15 minute break.
> I am so happy I gave that up. I breath easier and
> my sense of smell has returned. : D


It doesn't take 10 minutes to smoke a fucking cigarette--even a fucking retard could get one down in 6-8 minutes.

I just quit smoking too--so congrats to both of us.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 15, 2007 11:00PM

I hate smoke in restaraunts too, but this is a clear example of the government taking away the liberty of a private citizen to own and run a business as they see fit. Fuck that. This fucking sleepwalking nation needs their collective hand held by the govt. every step of the way. I don't buy it.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 16, 2007 11:16AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I hate smoke in restaraunts too, but this is a
> clear example of the government taking away the
> liberty of a private citizen to own and run a
> business as they see fit.


you could also say that public health codes are a "clear example of the government taking away the liberty of a private citizen to own and run a business as they see fit." this isnt about taking away liberties, it's about protecting the public from harm. yes, harm as it's proven that smoke increases the risk of lung cancer. what if i was allowed to bring in an ever so slightly radioactive material simply because it was the status quo? sure it might not kill you and unlike smoke, you wouldnt even know you were being exposed to radiation but would you want it to be allowed?

PS  feel free to leave "this sleepwalking nation" at anytime.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: January 16, 2007 02:32PM

I hate people that smoke in restaurants, but clubs and bars I don't mind. I ONLY smoke when I’m drinking. But I have no problem running outside for a smoke.

I did go out last weekend, and smoked hooka in DC. I totally forgot about that until now, I guess that’s not banned.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 16, 2007 06:58PM

you wouldnt even know you were being exposed to radiation but would you want it to be allowed?

I understand your arguement. But is carrying radioactive material into a restaraunt specifically an illegal thing to do?

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: January 16, 2007 07:36PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hate smoke in restaraunts too, but this is a
> > clear example of the government taking away the
> > liberty of a private citizen to own and run a
> > business as they see fit.
>
> you could also say that public health codes are a
> "clear example of the government taking away the
> liberty of a private citizen to own and run a
> business as they see fit." this isnt about taking
> away liberties, it's about protecting the public
> from harm. yes, harm as it's proven that smoke
> increases the risk of lung cancer. what if i was
> allowed to bring in an ever so slightly
> radioactive material simply because it was the
> status quo? sure it might not kill you and unlike
> smoke, you wouldnt even know you were being
> exposed to radiation but would you want it to be
> allowed?
>
> PS  feel free to leave "this
> sleepwalking nation" at anytime.

Many many states and social programs would go bankrupt if they lost the precious tobacco tax they get off every pack (over two dollars in some states). Drinking also harms the liver and can kill you (alcohol is a poison after all.) Do you agree with trans-fats being banned? Why not leave it up to the business to ban it is they see fit and let the consumer decide? The only way I see it being a harm to public health is if the gov mandated it be legal and sold at ever restaurant bar.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: ben ()
Date: January 16, 2007 10:26PM

Mofo Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TheMeeper Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I hate smoke in restaraunts too, but this is
> a
> > > clear example of the government taking away
> the
> > > liberty of a private citizen to own and run a
> > > business as they see fit.
> >
> > you could also say that public health codes are
> a
> > "clear example of the government taking away
> the
> > liberty of a private citizen to own and run a
> > business as they see fit." this isnt about
> taking
> > away liberties, it's about protecting the
> public
> > from harm. yes, harm as it's proven that smoke
> > increases the risk of lung cancer. what if i
> was
> > allowed to bring in an ever so slightly
> > radioactive material simply because it was the
> > status quo? sure it might not kill you and
> unlike
> > smoke, you wouldnt even know you were being
> > exposed to radiation but would you want it to
> be
> > allowed?
> >
> > PS  feel free to leave "this
> > sleepwalking nation" at anytime.
>
> Many many states and social programs would go
> bankrupt if they lost the precious tobacco tax
> they get off every pack (over two dollars in some
> states). Drinking also harms the liver and can
> kill you (alcohol is a poison after all.) Do you
> agree with trans-fats being banned? Why not leave
> it up to the business to ban it is they see fit
> and let the consumer decide? The only way I see it
> being a harm to public health is if the gov
> mandated it be legal and sold at ever restaurant
> bar.

While there may be long-term social costs depending on how society deals with health issues, there is no immediate impact upon my health by someone standing next to me drinking a beer or eating food high in trans fatty acids.

That can't be said for someone standing next to me in a nightclub smoking.

They aren't the same beast- find an argument that doesn't rely on the false assumption that smoking is equal to drinking or eating poorly.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: January 16, 2007 11:10PM

That can't be said for someone standing next to me in a nightclub smoking.

Just go to another non-smoking club then dude....

It just sucks that cool places like Velvet Lounge and Asylum now have to make people go outside to smoke. It's a fuckin rock club, not a mom & dad's house.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: January 16, 2007 11:24PM

I agree as well that bars and night clubs are different. Most of the time, smoking and drinking go hand in hand.
Or maybe it's just fond memories from some years ago....

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: ben ()
Date: January 17, 2007 01:10AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> That can't be said for someone standing next to me
> in a nightclub smoking.
>
> Just go to another non-smoking club then dude....

Name one decent place in the greater metropolitan area. Every place I know of (and I know a "few") that serves alcohol allows smoking. Those ranges from ritzy nightclubs to live venues to dive bars.

Every been to NYC? Nightlife there is still going strong, with smoker-only rooms in the nightclubs. I don't see why it would need to be any different here.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: January 17, 2007 12:34PM

I wouldn't mind a only-smokers room. In fact I don't even mind going outside execpt during the winter.

Pretty much every club and bar i've been to in dc allowed smoking. But thats your right of passage for venturing out into the wild of dc after 11pm. Even as non-smoker (when sober), It never bothered me that much.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: January 17, 2007 02:58PM

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Attachments:
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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: cherrytop ()
Date: January 17, 2007 03:07PM

I hate going home and smelling like smoke. Gets in your hair, clothes and makes my eyes irritated after a while. Tried to date a guy who was a smoker once. never again

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: January 17, 2007 03:47PM

Gravis Wrote:
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>
> PS. feel free to leave "this
> sleepwalking nation" at anytime.


Well, see the problem is, you have to get a passport first or hop the border.

Pasports take time and not evryone can get one.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: January 17, 2007 07:24PM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > PS. feel free to leave "this
> > sleepwalking nation" at anytime.
>
>
> Well, see the problem is, you have to get a
> passport first or hop the border.
>
> Pasports take time and not evryone can get one.

Mexico doesn't have a problem letting people in, every time I went we just walked/drove over. They do have those pase/ no pase random green/red lights to inspect your car when you drive over but that's it no passports, or even questions for the federales at least not the last time I went a couple years ago through Tijuana. When I flew to Cabo San Lucas I actually got to use a passport. Never had to show one getting back into the US either from Mexico except the plane trip though there are new rules requiring them in Canada/Mexico crossings to US now.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2007 07:24PM by Mofo.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 22, 2007 06:20PM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > PS. feel free to leave "this
> > sleepwalking nation" at anytime.
>
>
> Well, see the problem is, you have to get a
> passport first or hop the border.
>
> Pasports take time and not evryone can get one.


worst excuse ever. you seem to have time to dwell on what's wrong here but cant use that time to get away from here? bullshit.


Mofo Wrote:
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> Many many states and social programs would go
> bankrupt if they lost the precious tobacco tax


what proof do you have? this is conjecture. i could say it would all balance out with the state having to pay for less medical bills because people are healthier but i cant say it's a fact.


> Do you agree with trans-fats being banned?

yes, 100%. why would anyone be against it?!


> Why not leave it up to the business to ban it is they see fit
> and let the consumer decide?


businesses like the status quo. do you think gasoline companies would make unleaded fuel if they didnt have to? it costs them more money and ultimately charge the customer more to have unleaded fuel. the average consumer is a fucking retard. consumers are ignorant and just wander in the dark listening to lies that businesses say are facts and eat up the words of the media. bans and laws like these are the fences and warning signs that keeps consumers from going up and messing with a lion at the zoo. so... should we remove the fences and signs? just leave it up to the person to decide if it's safe.


> The only way I see it
> being a harm to public health is if the gov
> mandated it be legal and sold at ever restaurant
> bar.


that is very shortsighted.



it sounds like you have some bizarro uber republican view of what the government should be. how about we do away with due process too and let the people decide a persons fate because everyone does careful investigation and knows the facts, right? no, people are fucking stupid and will believe just about anything they are told.


TheMeeper Wrote:
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> you wouldnt even know you were being exposed to
> radiation but would you want it to be allowed?
>
> I understand your arguement. But is carrying
> radioactive material into a restaraunt
> specifically an illegal thing to do?


i assure you, all hazardous materials have strict laws on how they must be handled.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Dinne for two ()
Date: March 21, 2016 06:52PM

gayyyy

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: BackLicker ()
Date: March 21, 2016 08:31PM

You can still smoke to your hearts (or lungs) content at the Springfield Hard Times Cafe.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Johnrotten ()
Date: March 21, 2016 09:15PM

ben Wrote:
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> Enshallah. I'm one of the many that can't stand
> it. Especially after I developed Bronchitis from
> being exposed to too much cigarette smoke.
>
> New York City and Dublin were both brilliant- no
> dry eyes, coughing, or rank clothing the next day.

How do you develop bronchitis from hanging around smokers you dumb fuck? Were you sucking on an engine exhaust?

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: y6GJT ()
Date: March 22, 2016 02:32PM


your talking 1998 clinton news

gov workers hate smokers, tax the smokers deny them everything. smoking costs money and gov wants all that and triple because they smell money.

(except gov workers who smoke of course)


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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: bENem ()
Date: March 22, 2016 02:39PM


1998 or so: sue the state of Virginia, but no other tobacco state



these states didn't use the money for what they said, the whole thing was a lie, and the whole thing was a throw in of the towel from a governor who helped states like NY,NY funnel tobacco money out of VA and often out of the counry

EVIDENCE: tobacco comes from many places they targeted VA, sent minions to attack VA tobacco farms (ie meicans claiming in the news tobacco isn't profitable and growing beans would be better use, who are suing VA tobacco farmers - probably trying to kill the families for the land and tobacco money).

NY,NY has litterally used state money to buy farms in VA and sell them - which is a shell game, played by who: NY state congressmen

EVIDENcE: old spanish law was, anyone who had a tobacco seedling not owned by the king was put to death for having something profitable the king wanted to be sole owner of "mehico telling va tobacoo isn't profitable must be forced to change by gov"

EVIDENCE: NY NY was the first state to come up with $60/carton cigarette laws - at the same time they were $10-$15 in VA

EVIDENCE: cigarettes were $20/carton in VA until VA got a NY,NJ governor - who not only attacked and funneled money out of VA tobacco, but saw the sale of VA HAM to the chinese, a VA nuclear plant fuel gone missing? but defineitely two USA subs burned out before being first put to sea.

get the hell out of VA, you NY NJ fucks

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: wx76P ()
Date: March 22, 2016 02:47PM

Just the persistent nanny state and you sheep and going baaaaaa baaaaaa accepting it.

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: Not funny queers ()
Date: March 22, 2016 09:02PM

Can still smoke weed

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Re: Smoking BAN in DC
Posted by: .... ()
Date: March 22, 2016 09:56PM

Meh...doesn't bother me, and I smoke.


I just make a point of it to blow smoke in their Libcuck faces as they leave the bar/restaurant.

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