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Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: angry taxpayer ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:14AM

I want to know why Chief Richard Bowers hasn't been fired.

Allowing male firemen to bully and harass female fire fighters is outrageous.

Fire him now.

Let's clean out the filth in our fire houses.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Proof positive ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:31AM

Prove someone within the FD did it.

Prove specifically who. WHO do you want to fire again? All the male bullies?

Then the chief could do something.

You want to fire him because he didn't discipline someone that can't be identified?

Let's pretend you're the chief. Now you can fire someone. WHO?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Tarnished Brass ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:35AM

A new tramp emerges for us to watch destroy
> herself. Nicole Mittendorf at 32 is already
> slutting her way around the county. Got wasted and
> screwed Sam Mill's cousin and last week was seen
> at 8's usual hockey game in DC making out with
> Nate Larkin. Pics to come from someone there. Also
> hear some JJ Walsh play? She's married to a nice
> dude. Not sure if he knows. He's a trooper up here



I hope whoever wrote this is proud of himself. The so-called brotherhood...right...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Ustoopddkd ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:42AM

Did I miss something?

No one knows she actually killed herself.

You're all speculating.

Nothing more.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: higher standards ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:48AM

Anyone who defends these pigs has serious mental issues.

If this bullying was done by elementary kids the principal of the school would figure out who the culprits are.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Kllllll ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:55AM

Yeah? Like who?


If you're right, then bullying wouldn't be as much of an issue in schools as you claim they'd be, right?



What a joke...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: time to name names ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:11PM

Time to just start naming names

I don't give a shit if I am correct.

I will out every male firemen at the station

You guys can sort it out among yourselves

The gloves are off

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: FONZ ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:19PM

What are you waiting for....do it

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Guiltyuntilinnkvdnt ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:23PM

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Persecute the innocent masses for the guilty one or two.


That's way less of a dick move than calling out a cheating wife.



Try again...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: burn it down ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:39PM

Do it.
These guys respect nothing.
Burn the mother down
Burn baby burn
They are firemen, they can put it out

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Loolololol ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:44PM

Lol yeah go ahead


Fight cyberbullying with cyberbullying!

It's like fighting fire with fire. Lolololo
Loll


You're going to hell after you randomly disappear too!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: know your history ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:49PM


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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: know your history 2.0 ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:51PM


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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: History buff ()
Date: April 19, 2016 12:53PM

Gee. What do all those links have in common with this?


Women.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: human scum ()
Date: April 20, 2016 11:54AM

Gee I wonder if these assholes like techie 7 will be attending her funeral

That would be ironic

Too bad nobody within FCFD showed leadership and stopped the online harassment

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: the brotherhood...YEA RIGHT ()
Date: April 20, 2016 01:42PM

There is no such thing anymore. Tradition and brotherhood has been gone for about 10 years. Its the all about "me" generation, now and a bunch of wanna be, over the hill, beer belly frat boys. Sure, there are a few that remain tight and close, but not like it used to be. Its only a brotherhood when someone needs something.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Unga Bunga ()
Date: April 20, 2016 02:37PM

Let's see some links to this cyber-bullying. Just speculation until this is proven.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Thereyougo ()
Date: April 20, 2016 07:15PM


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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Teflon don ()
Date: April 20, 2016 07:39PM

If you want to blame someone, blame JJ. He's messed with how many women? And what does the dept. do? Let him "voluntarily" demote and go to the battalion of his choice. Wow they really disciplined him for banging the head of HR. He was messing with Nicole while she was at 8. He needs to go. Go far, far away!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: P9Wn4 ()
Date: April 20, 2016 07:47PM

why does it concern your job if you have affairs or fuck whomever you like?

are they not adults? I could have 32 affairs and it would have zero to do with my job

explain why jj was "demoted", for fucking some lady? makes no sense

unless they were doing it during work hours, then BOTH of them should be disciplined

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: wild west ()
Date: April 20, 2016 08:00PM

Jesus Christ are these the best we have working in our fire houses

What a bunch of vile men

I hope to hell Pat Herrity or some other ball buster is going to do something

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: emilylou ()
Date: April 21, 2016 04:20AM

What's JJ'S last name? Go ahead out them all and tell us the story. Who all has NM been with? Who works at 30? Where is NM? What did you do with her?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Anna ()
Date: April 21, 2016 09:35AM


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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Brass Couplings ()
Date: April 21, 2016 10:13AM

How have you been Greg? Your just frustrated because you didn't get the support you thought you deserved after 9/11. You let the terrorists win your world.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Hot Head ()
Date: April 21, 2016 10:15PM

She killed herself its official. Hope the a-holes are satisfied with themselves..."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Hdgb ()
Date: April 21, 2016 10:19PM

Hot Head Wrote:
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> She killed herself its official. Hope the a-holes
> are satisfied with themselves..."Let he who is
> without sin cast the first stone."

How do you know why? Did you ask?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Hhhhhhggg ()
Date: April 21, 2016 10:20PM

Did the note specifically cite bullying as a reason for suicide?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: U R Without Honor ()
Date: April 22, 2016 02:51PM

I can't believe these gossipmongers are judging women when they, themselves, freely confess to having unprotected sex with someone they know has multiple sex partners. How many did this when they were in relationships? Their inability to assess such an obvious double-standard makes me wonder if they should be in positions where accurate assessments are key.

They are embarrassments to a once-noble profession. They have no honor. Whether they were the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's suicide or not, they need to be weeded out.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Stupid women ()
Date: April 22, 2016 02:54PM

We need slut prevention courses at all police and firefighter command centers. Chauvinist out!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: .... ()
Date: April 22, 2016 03:01PM

U R Without Honor Wrote:
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> I can't believe these gossipmongers are judging
> women when they, themselves, freely confess to
> having unprotected sex with someone they know has
> multiple sex partners. How many did this when they
> were in relationships? Their inability to assess
> such an obvious double-standard makes me wonder if
> they should be in positions where accurate
> assessments are key.
>
> They are embarrassments to a once-noble
> profession. They have no honor. Whether they were
> the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's suicide or
> not, they need to be weeded out.




So you're judging the supposed (multiple) men who supposedly had sex with her, for judging her?



Great logic there.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: other victims ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:30PM

Fairfax Fire Department failed to protect Nicole.

They knew about the bullying and did nothing about it

Other women within the department have also been harassed

Many have resigned because of it

And all we hear are crickets

The BOS needs to launch an investigation into this work place harassment

Someone call Gloria Alred

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Just stop ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:47PM

Everyone is happy to repeat gossip and judge. Nicole might have earned her reputation, and it might be 100% lies. At the end of the day did anyone hear this gossip, sit her down, and tell her to stop her behavior, or give her a shoulder to lean on if it was all malicious rumor?
This is the fire department, men and women equally get harassed. It requires thick skin.
BUT
At the end of the day she's a human being. Just because she screwed up, or maybe picked a career that she may or may not be best suited for doesn't mean she didn't have the right to compassion. Rumors will always abound. We can't change that, but we need to step up and approach people and guide them if they'll listen. Aren't we after all in the buisness of helping people??
Have some respect, move on from this subject and realize that we all have a duty to act when we see someone engage in behavior that isn't best for them. It's a shame that in a career of saving people we buried our own by our lack of compassion and action.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: BOOORRRRINNNGG ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:48PM

Just stop Wrote:
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> Everyone is happy to repeat gossip and judge.
> Nicole might have earned her reputation, and it
> might be 100% lies. At the end of the day did
> anyone hear this gossip, sit her down, and tell
> her to stop her behavior, or give her a shoulder
> to lean on if it was all malicious rumor?
> This is the fire department, men and women equally
> get harassed. It requires thick skin.
> BUT
> At the end of the day she's a human being. Just
> because she screwed up, or maybe picked a career
> that she may or may not be best suited for doesn't
> mean she didn't have the right to compassion.
> Rumors will always abound. We can't change that,
> but we need to step up and approach people and
> guide them if they'll listen. Aren't we after all
> in the buisness of helping people??
> Have some respect, move on from this subject and
> realize that we all have a duty to act when we see
> someone engage in behavior that isn't best for
> them. It's a shame that in a career of saving
> people we buried our own by our lack of compassion
> and action.

Hey Stalin was a human being too. We need to realize that if he just had a shoulder to lean on and someone to talk to, millions of lives would have been saved!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Devo14 ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:49PM

The citizens of Fairfax County need to put a halt to this website before more damage is done.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Haskins ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:55PM

Let's say Ms. Mittendorff was seen with another man. Perhaps she and her husband have an open marriage. What business is it of any other person? Fairfax Fire Department personnel, hiding behind anonymity, feel it is their right to denigrate and humiliate their female work colleagues via sexual harassment. This is indicative of an attempt to drive women out of the Fire Department.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Doubtful that ()
Date: April 22, 2016 04:59PM

Haskins Wrote:
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> Let's say Ms. Mittendorff was seen with another
> man. Perhaps she and her husband have an open
> marriage. What business is it of any other
> person? Fairfax Fire Department personnel, hiding
> behind anonymity, feel it is their right to
> denigrate and humiliate their female work
> colleagues via sexual harassment. This is
> indicative of an attempt to drive women out of the
> Fire Department.


What business is it of you or anyone else to police what people think or say online? Especially if it's true?

Nobody threatened to kill her. All they seemed to do is point out that she was slutting around.

Her family and the idiots on this site need to get over their white knighting bullshit and realize this chick wasn't anything special.

She was likely just another entitled privileged NoVa bitch who cheated on her husband on the reg.

But hey! Who cares right!!??!? We should all just be able to fuck whoever, whenever, wherever because like it's 2016 and like it's up to people to like decide like what's moral or right or like you know. Right?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Crant ()
Date: April 22, 2016 05:02PM

Perhaps Ms. Mittendorff should have been stoned to death in the town square. Would that make you happy?

Are you loyal to your wife?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: WTF LOL!!! ()
Date: April 22, 2016 05:07PM

Crant Wrote:
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> Perhaps Ms. Mittendorff should have been stoned to
> death in the town square. Would that make you
> happy?
>
> Are you loyal to your wife?


Yeah.... Is it really that fucking hard to be loyal to the woman you CHOSE to marry because you LOVED them?

Or are you just another retarded Jewmerican who didn't take that shit seriously and now look to rationalize degenerate, abysmal behavior on the regular?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: .... ()
Date: April 22, 2016 05:31PM

Crant Wrote:
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> Perhaps Ms. Mittendorff should have been stoned to
> death in the town square. Would that make you
> happy?
>
> Are you loyal to your wife?


Well....this is quite a change in tone.


So now it's, "well, what if she did do it" instead of it all being lies?


Interesting.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Trusteeee ()
Date: April 22, 2016 05:55PM

It matters. Cheating on a spouse matters. For men and women alike. If you take an oath before God, family, and friends, just to break it shortly after.... You have the integrity of a wet paper bag. People like that are the snakes in the grass. And you'd have us trust her to go into our homes, in the most trusted profession in our weakest moments? I'd hope not

She didn't deserve death the same as her husband didn't deserve a cheating wife.


And there's nothing wrong with saying that.

Being a vile son of a bitch who runs her down publicly is on par however. You can be civil with people you don't trust. "Shaming" her is just as fucked up.

For what it's worth, I doubt she'd give a big dam about what a bunch of online losers think about her. The interpersonal consequences are her actions were the weight that crushed her; not the public response.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Pissed ()
Date: April 22, 2016 06:50PM

.... Wrote:
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> U R Without Honor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can't believe these gossipmongers are judging
> > women when they, themselves, freely confess to
> > having unprotected sex with someone they know
> has
> > multiple sex partners. How many did this when
> they
> > were in relationships? Their inability to
> assess
> > such an obvious double-standard makes me wonder
> if
> > they should be in positions where accurate
> > assessments are key.
> >
> > They are embarrassments to a once-noble
> > profession. They have no honor. Whether they
> were
> > the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's suicide
> or
> > not, they need to be weeded out.
>
>
>
>
> So you're judging the supposed (multiple) men who
> supposedly had sex with her, for judging her?
>
>
>
> Great logic there.

You are an idiot who just has to be one of these male firefighters. He/she is not judging them for judging her. The poster is judging them for their abject hypocrisy.

And, the problem is not that they are "judging her". They are entitled to "judge her". The problem is that they have no right to air their idiotic, hypocritical judgments on a public forum. What she did is none of their fucking business. It was between her and her husband. These fucking loser firefighters should work at keeping their own houses in order and not at "outing" someone on the fucking Fairfax Underground, THE MESSAGE BOARD WITH THE MOST LOSERS, CREEPS, ND REJECT I"VE EVER ENCOUNTERED.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: some guy in england ()
Date: April 22, 2016 06:51PM

Hi just reading about this over here in England...fascinating stuff really,

She was gorgeous but that snakes in the grass comment is right on the money.

Modern women, wow what a complete nightmare they are, but i guess it all goes back to eve does it not...more things change, the more they stay the same.

At least she wasn't banging koons or dune koons...the worst sin a white women could ever commit.

The jew engineered degeneration of the west is in full swing now, real nasty slimy culture were all living in...the worst being what happens in the church... this truly is the age...the age of Satan.

Not to worry though, the inevitable muslim takeover will put us out of our misery, things are so bad here in Europe, mass gang rapes of little white girls everyday and the police are on their side...you guys have all this to come, but at least you are armed.

keep on rockin in the free world...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: .... ()
Date: April 22, 2016 06:59PM

Pissed Wrote:
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> .... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > U R Without Honor Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I can't believe these gossipmongers are
> judging
> > > women when they, themselves, freely confess
> to
> > > having unprotected sex with someone they know
> > has
> > > multiple sex partners. How many did this when
> > they
> > > were in relationships? Their inability to
> > assess
> > > such an obvious double-standard makes me
> wonder
> > if
> > > they should be in positions where accurate
> > > assessments are key.
> > >
> > > They are embarrassments to a once-noble
> > > profession. They have no honor. Whether they
> > were
> > > the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's
> suicide
> > or
> > > not, they need to be weeded out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So you're judging the supposed (multiple) men
> who
> > supposedly had sex with her, for judging her?
> >
> >
> >
> > Great logic there.
>
> You are an idiot who just has to be one of these
> male firefighters. He/she is not judging them for
> judging her. The poster is judging them for their
> abject hypocrisy.
>
> And, the problem is not that they are "judging
> her". They are entitled to "judge her". The
> problem is that they have no right to air their
> idiotic, hypocritical judgments on a public forum.
> What she did is none of their fucking business.
> It was between her and her husband. These fucking
> loser firefighters should work at keeping their
> own houses in order and not at "outing" someone on
> the fucking Fairfax Underground, THE MESSAGE BOARD
> WITH THE MOST LOSERS, CREEPS, ND REJECT I"VE EVER
> ENCOUNTERED.



First off, I'm not one of those firefighters.


Second, if it is in fact true that she skanked around the station, then it IS everyone's business.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Congratulations ()
Date: April 22, 2016 07:03PM

To all the firefighters and EMT's that posted and aired dirty laundry on here:

Congratulations, you just made a joke of your entire department.

You destroyed the image of valor and class that is associated with your profession. I feel sorry for the hardworking people that you brought down with you because I (and I am sure a lot of others) will never look at any of you the same. Don't be surprised if furture fundraising efforts do not go as well as planned.

I don't care what a co-worker did or what rumor you heard, you do not post it like some juvenile coward on an anonymous public message board. To do so makes your entire department look bad, not just that person. You are a huge disappointment and a disgrace to your profession.

How can we trust you to take care of us with dignity and respect when you can't even do that for your own?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Buy them a beer ()
Date: April 22, 2016 07:05PM

Congratulations Wrote:
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> To all the firefighters and EMT's that posted and
> aired dirty laundry on here:
>
> Congratulations, you just made a joke of your
> entire department.
>
> You destroyed the image of valor and class that is
> associated with your profession. I feel sorry for
> the hardworking people that you brought down with
> you because I (and I am sure a lot of others) will
> never look at any of you the same. Don't be
> surprised if furture fundraising efforts do not go
> as well as planned.
>
> I don't care what a co-worker did or what rumor
> you heard, you do not post it like some juvenile
> coward on an anonymous public message board. To do
> so makes your entire department look bad, not just
> that person. You are a huge disappointment and a
> disgrace to your profession.
>
> How can we trust you to take care of us with
> dignity and respect when you can't even do that
> for your own?

Whatever, given the chance you'd buy them a beer and swap pics.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: US kicked your ass ()
Date: April 22, 2016 07:08PM

Hey mate, go fuck yourself


The U.S. kicked your ass 200 years ago and we'll do it again

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Master race face ()
Date: April 22, 2016 07:12PM

My house is older than your entire country buddy, show some respect to your founders and elders eh...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: JusticeForHer ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:23PM

Medical examiner confirmed TODAY she actually did kill herself. Fucking piece of shit "men" at Fairfax Underground. Rot I'm hell. Hope you're all fired who partook in harassing this women to the point of her taking her own life. Lowlives!!!!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Sluts happen ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:24PM

When a shameless whore finally has an attack of conscience everyone is supposed to feel bad for her? I call bullshit. She made her bed and reaped the results. Her behavior was wreckless.

Everyday I see these sluts getting ahead by giving head. Shameless...

Oh yeah these firefighters are fucked bte...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: somuch ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:28PM

Sluts happen Wrote:
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> When a shameless whore finally has an attack of
> conscience everyone is supposed to feel bad for
> her? I call bullshit. She made her bed and reaped
> the results. Her behavior was wreckless.
>
> Everyday I see these sluts getting ahead by giving
> head. Shameless...
>
> Oh yeah these firefighters are fucked bte...



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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Just curious ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:42PM

Does anyone know how she went about doing it?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: in da knoooow ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:46PM

According to Fox News she held her breath till death

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Act Classy ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:49PM

You should all be ashamed of the things you've said about this young lady. Speculating her life and things she did or did not do. So sad!!! A life is gone. A family is mourning. Show some respect!

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Actual female firefighter ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:57PM

To all the residents of Fairfax, media, internet trolls, and anyone else reading this. Please do not judge the fire department based off of what you are reading here today. I am blessed beyond belief to have had a great career as a female firefighter surrounded by amazing men and woman. Anyone can write anything online pretending to be anyone. The malicious thoughts and words I read here genuinely do not sound like the people I call my brothers or sister. Please remember that any angry neighbor/ex wife/ex husband/anyone who is privy to gossip could have started this thread. It is beyond unfair to label and judge the members of the department based off a forum that anyone could be writing. A better judge of character would be to look at how our members have gathered around Nicole's family, and around each other during this time of pain. The drama being spewed by people who I can almost certainly guarantee you are NOT my brothers is only causing more pain. Time to knock it off. Time to focus on healing, on loving those around us, and on providing new resources to those who feel so trapped and alone that they don't see just how much their life is worth.
To the media- I can promise you that no co-worker of Nicole's who has had to see the damage and pain caused by suicide that we see far too often would write the things said here. We have more respect than that. We also have more respect and not enough time to be writing the gossip and filth that was spread in previous posts about her. Please don't judge us for the words of cowards who hide behind keyboards. That's not what we as a department are about.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: FedTFUp ()
Date: April 22, 2016 09:59PM

What cracks me up most about this "underground" blog is the arrogance of the firefighters. You do realize that you are nothing more than middle class, blue collar, specks in society...right? I mean it actually literally makes me laugh how highly you think of yourselves due to the job you have. Haha you all need a reality check.

Second, are you fucking serious with these comments about women? I've seen my fair share of fairfax firefighters... Most are so fat they haven't seen their dick without a mirror in over a decade.

You have no clue what this woman's life story is. Put down your donuts and shut the fuck up.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Correction! ()
Date: April 22, 2016 10:04PM

Devo14 Wrote:
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> The citizens of Fairfax County need to put a halt to this website before more damage is done.

The citizens of Fairfax County need to hold people who do bad things accountable for their actions, especially when their tax dollars pay these people's salaries.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Tea Party Rebel ()
Date: April 22, 2016 10:11PM

Nice shot from across the pond, or should I say "Good Googley' I'm sure I fucked that up. Cricket shit term y'all use quite often.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: livinginthepresent ()
Date: April 22, 2016 10:49PM

.... Wrote:
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> Pissed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > .... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > U R Without Honor Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I can't believe these gossipmongers are
> > judging
> > > > women when they, themselves, freely confess
> > to
> > > > having unprotected sex with someone they
> know
> > > has
> > > > multiple sex partners. How many did this
> when
> > > they
> > > > were in relationships? Their inability to
> > > assess
> > > > such an obvious double-standard makes me
> > wonder
> > > if
> > > > they should be in positions where accurate
> > > > assessments are key.
> > > >
> > > > They are embarrassments to a once-noble
> > > > profession. They have no honor. Whether
> they
> > > were
> > > > the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's
> > suicide
> > > or
> > > > not, they need to be weeded out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So you're judging the supposed (multiple) men
> > who
> > > supposedly had sex with her, for judging her?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great logic there.
> >
> > You are an idiot who just has to be one of
> these
> > male firefighters. He/she is not judging them
> for
> > judging her. The poster is judging them for
> their
> > abject hypocrisy.
> >
> > And, the problem is not that they are "judging
> > her". They are entitled to "judge her". The
> > problem is that they have no right to air their
> > idiotic, hypocritical judgments on a public
> forum.
> > What she did is none of their fucking business.
>
> > It was between her and her husband. These
> fucking
> > loser firefighters should work at keeping their
> > own houses in order and not at "outing" someone
> on
> > the fucking Fairfax Underground, THE MESSAGE
> BOARD
> > WITH THE MOST LOSERS, CREEPS, ND REJECT I"VE
> EVER
> > ENCOUNTERED.
>
>
>
> First off, I'm not one of those firefighters.
>
>
> Second, if it is in fact true that she skanked
> around the station, then it IS everyone's
> business.

What, are you a puritan from the 1600s who believes women should wear a scarlet A on their dress and be sent to the stockades. If she hadn't been married then it would be nobody's goddamn business, except the parties involved. If married it's between her and her husband, and the dude that slept with another man's wife. By the way, where is your indignation about the men involved? It takes two to tango.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Cumstain Pete ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:00PM

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Cumstain Fred ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:06PM

^ Here we go. This is the FU that I know and love.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: .... ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:09PM

livinginthepresent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> .... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pissed Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > .... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > U R Without Honor Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > I can't believe these gossipmongers are
> > > judging
> > > > > women when they, themselves, freely
> confess
> > > to
> > > > > having unprotected sex with someone they
> > know
> > > > has
> > > > > multiple sex partners. How many did this
> > when
> > > > they
> > > > > were in relationships? Their inability to
> > > > assess
> > > > > such an obvious double-standard makes me
> > > wonder
> > > > if
> > > > > they should be in positions where
> accurate
> > > > > assessments are key.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are embarrassments to a once-noble
> > > > > profession. They have no honor. Whether
> > they
> > > > were
> > > > > the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's
> > > suicide
> > > > or
> > > > > not, they need to be weeded out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So you're judging the supposed (multiple)
> men
> > > who
> > > > supposedly had sex with her, for judging
> her?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great logic there.
> > >
> > > You are an idiot who just has to be one of
> > these
> > > male firefighters. He/she is not judging
> them
> > for
> > > judging her. The poster is judging them for
> > their
> > > abject hypocrisy.
> > >
> > > And, the problem is not that they are
> "judging
> > > her". They are entitled to "judge her". The
> > > problem is that they have no right to air
> their
> > > idiotic, hypocritical judgments on a public
> > forum.
> > > What she did is none of their fucking
> business.
> >
> > > It was between her and her husband. These
> > fucking
> > > loser firefighters should work at keeping
> their
> > > own houses in order and not at "outing"
> someone
> > on
> > > the fucking Fairfax Underground, THE MESSAGE
> > BOARD
> > > WITH THE MOST LOSERS, CREEPS, ND REJECT I"VE
> > EVER
> > > ENCOUNTERED.
> >
> >
> >
> > First off, I'm not one of those firefighters.
> >
> >
> > Second, if it is in fact true that she skanked
> > around the station, then it IS everyone's
> > business.
>
> What, are you a puritan from the 1600s who
> believes women should wear a scarlet A on their
> dress and be sent to the stockades. If she hadn't
> been married then it would be nobody's goddamn
> business, except the parties involved. If married
> it's between her and her husband, and the dude
> that slept with another man's wife. By the way,
> where is your indignation about the men involved?
> It takes two to tango.

If your job involves potentially saving lives, then if you aren't competent enough to follow an oath (be it marriage or one of public service.) then you shouldn't rate that job. Because if you can't be trusted to do something as simple as control your sex life, then you can't be trusted to do your job.

As for the men involved, if they were married, the same applies.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: U R Without Honor ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:15PM

No. I was referring to one of the other women who was discussed ad nauseam.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: asdafas ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:19PM

in da knoooow Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> According to Fox News she held her breath till
> death


That's impossible, you'd start breathing again once you pass out. . My guess she hanged herself or used pills.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: livinginthepresent ()
Date: April 22, 2016 11:58PM

U R Without Honor Wrote:

I can't believe these gossipmongers are judging
women when they, themselves, freely confess
to having unprotected sex with someone they
know has multiple sex partners. How many did
this when they were in relationships? Their inability
to assess such an obvious double-standard makes
me wonder if they should be in positions where
accurate assessments are key.

They are embarrassments to a once-noble profession.
They have no honor. Whether they were
the catalysts for Nicole Mittendorff's
suicide or not, they need to be weeded out.

So you're judging the supposed (multiple) men who
supposedly had sex with her, for judging her?

Great logic there.


You are an idiot who just has to be one of these
male firefighters. He/she is not judging
them for judging her. The poster is judging them
for their abject hypocrisy.

And, the problem is not that they are "judging her".

They are entitled to "judge her". The problem is that
they have no right to air their idiotic, hypocritical
judgments on a public forum.

What she did is none of their fucking business.
It was between her and her husband. These fucking
loser firefighters should work at keeping
their own houses in order and not at "outing"
someone on the fucking Fairfax Underground, THE
MESSAGE BOARD WITH THE MOST LOSERS, CREEPS, AND REJECTS
I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED.

> > >
> > >
First off, I'm not one of those firefighters.
Second, if it is in fact true that she skanked
around the station, then it IS everyone's
business.
> >
What, are you a puritan from the 1600s who
believes women should wear a scarlet A on their
dress and be sent to the stockades. If she
hadn't been married then it would be nobody's goddamn
business, except the parties involved. If married
it's between her and her husband, and the dude
that slept with another man's wife. By the way,
where is your indignation about the men involved?

It takes two to tango.
>


If your job involves potentially saving lives,
then if you aren't competent enough to follow an
oath (be it marriage or one of public service.)
then you shouldn't rate that job. Because if you
can't be trusted to do something as simple as
control your sex life, then you can't be trusted
to do your job.
>
As for the men involved, if they were married, the
same applies.


-----------------

I don't know whether you are just super naive or what.

Following an oath of marriage and competence in one's field are unrelated. From the time there were doctors and nurses, both of whom are charged with saving lives, there has been fooling around. And guess what, the doctors and nurses that fooled around didn't lose their abilities. They were still fully capable of saving lives. That's but one example.


You really have a skewed view of things.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: livinginthepresent ()
Date: April 23, 2016 12:02AM

PS I assume it's easy for you to "control" your sex life when you don't have one.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Turder ()
Date: April 23, 2016 12:24AM

The fact is that she was sleeping around on her husband with many other men, that is confirmed. She just got in so deep that she couldn't take it. It is unfortunate that she committed suicide from it, but she dug her own grave on this one. This had nothing to do with Internet bullying and all to do with the chaos that she brought upon herself by sleeping with numerous men behind her husbands back. He probably does not realize it yet but it was the best thing for him.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: One Sick Fuck ()
Date: April 23, 2016 12:42AM

Turder Wrote:
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> The fact is that she was sleeping around on her
> husband with many other men, that is confirmed.
> She just got in so deep that she couldn't take it.
> It is unfortunate that she committed suicide from
> it, but she dug her own grave on this one. This
> had nothing to do with Internet bullying and all
> to do with the chaos that she brought upon herself
> by sleeping with numerous men behind her husbands
> back. He probably does not realize it yet but it
> was the best thing for him.

You're a turd all right. Seriously, you need help.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: from the husbands POV ()
Date: April 23, 2016 01:18AM

Turder Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact is that she was sleeping around on her
> husband with many other men, that is confirmed.
> She just got in so deep that she couldn't take it.
> It is unfortunate that she committed suicide from
> it, but she dug her own grave on this one. This
> had nothing to do with Internet bullying and all
> to do with the chaos that she brought upon herself
> by sleeping with numerous men behind her husbands
> back. He probably does not realize it yet but it
> was the best thing for him.


Fucked up comment, but unfortunately very true.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Grim Reaper ()
Date: April 23, 2016 01:31AM

Fucked up comment, but unfortunately very true.


Your a piece of shit.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: DontBELIEVEit ()
Date: April 23, 2016 01:33AM

All of you hiding behind your computers, faceless, I don't believe for a second that you don't know that what was said and done on this site concerning this woman was wrong, hurtful, and slanderous comments were caused by jealousy, immaturity, hating women, and just plain cruelty. You can say all you want, but look what happened. I know all of you are feeling desperately guilty about it, you would have to, or you aren't human.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: livinginthepresent ()
Date: April 23, 2016 02:01AM

DontBELIEVEit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> All of you hiding behind your computers, faceless,
> I don't believe for a second that you don't know
> that what was said and done on this site
> concerning this woman was wrong, hurtful, and
> slanderous comments were caused by jealousy,
> immaturity, hating women, and just plain cruelty.
> You can say all you want, but look what happened.
> I know all of you are feeling desperately guilty
> about it, you would have to, or you aren't human.

In a better world than the one in which we live, I would like to believe (or hope) that what you say is true. It's not. There are some truly fucked up people on this FairFax Underground. Truly fucked up. The only more fucked up people I've observed are people on LiveLeak.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Business like usual ()
Date: April 23, 2016 02:41AM

Certain woman in the department are just as bad as the male counterparts when it comes to bullying. There are some who will give you shit to ride you, make fun of your performance but there are others that cross the line and will degrade you and it's not to your face. The fire department is like highshcool on crack. There is so much shot talking, manly about people's personal lives, and of course a twist is added on and then it spreads like wild fire. People just turn the other cheek and say nothing.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: x3nwk ()
Date: April 23, 2016 04:32AM

IF the allegations of being unfaithful are true, then...


Person cheats on spouse

Person cheats on spouse (with co-workers?)

Person is called out for cheating on spouse in social media (and in person?)

Person, now, has to deal with consequences of their choices




That is reality, "Person" could be male or female, the gender is irrelevant.

Equal rights = equal responsibilities, accountability and treatment.


If I know of a person who walks up to another person and punches them in the face - I would use adjectives to describe their actions - "That person is a dick, asshole, mean, unable to control emotions, crazy" and so on.

The ONLY reason this is even an issue is because it was a WOMAN. If the roles were reversed, and this was a MAN who cheated, was called out on social media and then took his own life - all these white-knights and illogical feminists would be cheering that HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.

There is no such thing as "slut shaming" - all "slut shaming" accounts for is WOMEN who can not handle the consequences of their actions. Try to "slut-shame" a MAN, does not work right? Why? Not because of some social construct or some invented feminist nonsense. It is because the MAN is able to handle the consequences of his actions. It is not any more or less acceptable for a man to have many sex partners any more than a woman doing the same.

You want equality? Then change your own culture among women. Men often see a man who has many sexual partners as a positive. Women should do the same or STFU. Women on the other hand will chastise, gossip, SHAME another woman for having many sexual partners. Women, generally, DO NOT think positive about other women who are sexually open, in fact, most treat these women as lesser humans and basically shit all over her as a person.

You want EQUAL?, then pat her on the back and let her know how progressive and brave of her to be breaking through the "Social Norms" by getting so so much dick. Until WOMEN stop judging, condemning and SHAMING other women for having many sexual partners, then results like this tragic event will continue.

SOME MEN will also judge, condemn and shame, but will not expect a double-standard in return. MEN know they will be judged, condemned and shamed, but accept it, therefore they are not being hypocritical and have every right to voice their opinions as they wish.

A huge step for women would be to think logically and not react to WORDS like children. If you are called a slut, whore...take it as a compliment or ignore it. A person can not conduct themselves as an ADJECTIVE and then not expect to be called that ADJECTIVE or related SYNONYMS. Notice I said PERSON, because WOMEN ALWAYS expect to be treated better than a man in ALL circumstances, which is the hypocritical end of the sword they ignore, but die on at every turn.



MEN, for the most part, do not care and view the woman with many sexual partners on different levels. Men would think she is easily accessible for sex, she is more open to only physical relationships or may stay away from her for their own personal reasons.

WOMEN get mad at the ADJECTIVES used to describe a woman's sexual tendencies - that is it!

Men may call her a slut, whore, easy or any other words - this makes women mad. Men could also say, that they are interested in this woman because she seems confident with her sexuality and aggressively seeks out multiple sexual partners - they appreciate this strong characteristic in this woman and would like to partake in sexual activities with her, if she will have them. Both descriptions are correct, but WOMEN THINK they get to decide which one is acceptable - they do not have that choice.


Here is a simple and logical way to look at this event:

IF you can not be faithful, do not get married

IF you are married and can not be faithful, get divorced

If you have many sexual partners, be prepared for the good and bad consequences to follow

IF you can not handle the consequences of your actions, do not
do them

IF you can not handle the social media of 2016, do not participate in that social media




Take out the MAN and WOMAN of your personal judgment of this event and use PERSON in their place.

This PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse is an adult. This PERSON was made aware of other peoples opinions and feelings through social media about that PERSON'S actions. Other PEOPLE voicing their opinions in the form of ADJECTIVES and reporting the FACTS of what has happened, is in no way illegal. The PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse also must be ready to take RESPONSIBILITY and be ACCOUNTABLE for THEIR actions. This would include accepting the OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES of other ADULTS and any venues they decide to air them. These OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES may be good or bad, the PERSON who CHOSE to be unfaithful to their spouse has no right to demand that others NOT voice their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES. The PERSON now must deal with the CONSEQUENCES of THEIR ACTIONS, whether on social media or face to face with other ADULTS. There are NO EXCUSES for being unfaithful, if one PERSON is abusing, cheating or any other bad circumstance or action - the other PERSON can END THE RELATIONSHIP, whether marriage or dating. If one PERSON decides to be unfaithful BEFORE ending the relationship, they then will have to deal with the consequences of THEIR DECISION. Add to this, the PERSON'S partner they decided to be unfaithful with will have to deal with THEIR DECISIONS AS WELL.

The supposed "Victim" in this event is a person who decided THEMSELVES to be unfaithful in their relationship verse ending the relationship first. (IMO if this PERSON ended the relationship first, NONE of the events that followed would have ever happened at all). This "Victim" CHOSE their ACTIONS and is an ADULT, therefore that ADULT has to be ACCOUNTABLE for THEIR actions, which includes other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES, whether on social media or in person. The "Victim" has every RIGHT to stand up for themselves in many fashions. The "Victim" can CHOOSE to defend THEIR CHOSEN ACTIONS on social media or ignore social media all together. When this PERSON made the CHOICE to be unfaithful, they as an ADULT, where well aware of the CONSEQUENCES on social media. This PERSON, if other ADULTS voice their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES face to face, can CHOOSE to engage others or ignore them. Again, when this PERSON made the CHOICE to be unfaithful, they as an ADULT, where well aware of the CONSEQUENCES of other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES while responding in person. The PERSON has every right to take legal action against any other ADULTS that do anything illegal to them.


If you want to be fair and show any type of respect for this event, keep your own AGENDAS out of the discussion. Keep your own AGENDAS out of any tribute or kind words you may have of this person. Do not USE this person as a platform to voice YOUR AGENDA. My citing of the general way men and women react, view and respond differently to situations like this is based in fact.

Whether you are Pro or Anti FF, EMT etc....whether you are Pro or Anti religion...whether you are Pro or Anti feminism....whether you are Pro or Anti immigration (Noted that last one on purpose, because all of your agendas are irrelevant while void of simple logic).


The simple and logical fact is that this PERSON is only a "victim" of their own decisions as an adult. This PERSON made decisions and took actions, or inactions, in response to other ADULTS voicing their OPINIONS and ADJECTIVES, as they have every right to do. This PERSON then CHOSE what ACTIONS they decided would suit the situation they created.

Even though, through logic, I hold the PERSON who decided to be unfaithful to another PERSON, ultimately, responsible for their decisions and actions, I do wish that this PERSON could have somehow found peace within themselves. I wish this PERSON was prepared to be accountable for their decisions and actions regardless of positive or negative feedback. There is no fault to be found in other adults responding negatively or positively, that is their right and is an expected and acceptable response to the events.

None of us know the reason this PERSON took their own life. It could be unrelated to anything we are aware of - all of these posts and situation that caused this thread, could be irrelevant.

I just hope that this PERSON is at peace, regardless of causes or reasons that led her to make such a decision.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: there is a cancer ()
Date: April 23, 2016 07:26AM

To the idiot female fire fighters who defended her friends saying they don't post on FU , you need to get your head out of your ass.

There is a serious cancer within this department.

Heads need to roll

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: hose holder ()
Date: April 23, 2016 07:48AM

Turder Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact is that she was sleeping around on her
> husband with many other men, that is confirmed.
> She just got in so deep that she couldn't take it.
> It is unfortunate that she committed suicide from
> it, but she dug her own grave on this one. This
> had nothing to do with Internet bullying and all
> to do with the chaos that she brought upon herself
> by sleeping with numerous men behind her husbands
> back. He probably does not realize it yet but it
> was the best thing for him.


Most firefighters are scum. All female firefighters are sluts.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Out of Town ()
Date: April 23, 2016 07:59AM

If I was a Fairfax firefighter and posted on here a lot, or posted on here from work, I wouldn't be sleeping well these days. Remember, even if you use your own device at work, if you're using the free wifi... This is going to get ugly.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: dam ()
Date: April 23, 2016 08:11AM

Seeing some outrageous stuff about Katie E online....from a year back. Just another upwardly mobile female whom got there by being a C dumpster. You see it everywhere. Bunch of whores.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: liveleak is weak ()
Date: April 23, 2016 09:31AM

livinginthepresent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> DontBELIEVEit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All of you hiding behind your computers,
> faceless,
> > I don't believe for a second that you don't
> know
> > that what was said and done on this site
> > concerning this woman was wrong, hurtful, and
> > slanderous comments were caused by jealousy,
> > immaturity, hating women, and just plain
> cruelty.
> > You can say all you want, but look what
> happened.
> > I know all of you are feeling desperately
> guilty
> > about it, you would have to, or you aren't
> human.
>
> In a better world than the one in which we live, I
> would like to believe (or hope) that what you say
> is true. It's not. There are some truly fucked up
> people on this FairFax Underground. Truly fucked
> up. The only more fucked up people I've observed
> are people on LiveLeak.


Liveleak is for pussies, you can't even use the word nigger, you cant upload porn or anything either or Hayden and his crew will ban you. FFXU is completely unmoderated, you can say and post anything you want the only moderator is the law.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Why fi ()
Date: April 23, 2016 09:40AM

For the record:
County wifi blocks Fairfax Underground both on the county owned computers and throug the free guest wifi.

So it's strictly via personal devices and their carriers.


RIP Nicole...

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Not a firefighter ()
Date: April 23, 2016 09:47AM

All of you dumbasses who keep saying they will trace your IP address: if the owner of this site has any brain at all he doesn't keep that information. I'm sure legal claims have been brought in the site before, but in reality it's the sites decision whether or not to log IP addresses. A site of this nature, I'm pretty sure they're smart enough not to log. So quit your god damn witch hunt. If the investigation does actually heat up they'll have to find some other means...

Also, I would bet 95% of the idiots posting on this topic are NOT firefighters, so stop automatically assuming that ALL comments disparaging Nicole are coming from firefighters. Trolls trolling trolls

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Dottie ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:08AM

I also agree that yes, Nicole's death is such a tragedy especially for her family, but if you do sleep around, what do you think is going to happen> People will engage in talking and so you have to expect that and then deal with it in your own way., You cannot blame her death on those who made comments about her lifestyle, that was Nicole's choice, no one should be reprimanded in any way shape or form. There are tons of people who get talked about on this website and they are not taking their own lives., at some point people need to be responsible for their own actions. and that retired woman who said these people need to be reprimanded, really?? take a step back lady and know YOU have talked about people, people talk about you. it happens every day with every one of us., I think you are stupid and trying to gain favor from Nicole's family. it is indeed a tragedy, but this the life she chose and people WILL talk. Believe me, it happens in the police dept., as well as in the fire dept. it happens everywhere! Open your eyes, and isn't there such a thing as Freedom of Speech? that is what FU is., Freedom of speech. I just think you wanted your minute of fame and for you to be liked by Nicole's family, so just sit back and relax. THis stuff happens all the time. it is very sad the way that Nicole ended the rumors she didn't like, but you cannot have affairs or date several men and not think this will happen. I feel sorry for all the wives of the men that Nicole dated and yet they couldn't stand up and put in their two cents why Nicole did this, and believe me, these type of men will wait and just find another replacement.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: 6nFYe ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:20AM

Dottie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I also agree that yes, Nicole's death is such a
> tragedy especially for her family, but if you do
> sleep around, what do you think is going to
> happen> People will engage in talking and so you
> have to expect that and then deal with it in your
> own way., You cannot blame her death on those
> who made comments about her lifestyle, that was
> Nicole's choice, no one should be reprimanded in
> any way shape or form. There are tons of people
> who get talked about on this website and they are
> not taking their own lives., at some point people
> need to be responsible for their own actions. and
> that retired woman who said these people need to
> be reprimanded, really?? take a step back lady
> and know YOU have talked about people, people talk
> about you. it happens every day with every one of
> us., I think you are stupid and trying to gain
> favor from Nicole's family. it is indeed a
> tragedy, but this the life she chose and people
> WILL talk. Believe me, it happens in the police
> dept., as well as in the fire dept. it happens
> everywhere! Open your eyes, and isn't there such
> a thing as Freedom of Speech? that is what FU
> is., Freedom of speech. I just think you wanted
> your minute of fame and for you to be liked by
> Nicole's family, so just sit back and relax. THis
> stuff happens all the time. it is very sad the way
> that Nicole ended the rumors she didn't like, but
> you cannot have affairs or date several men and
> not think this will happen. I feel sorry for all
> the wives of the men that Nicole dated and yet
> they couldn't stand up and put in their two cents
> why Nicole did this, and believe me, these type
> of men will wait and just find another
> replacement.

It took you a whole paragraph to say that ethics & professionalism have no place in public safety professions in Fairfax.

We already knew that, but thanks for playing.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: emilylou ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:22AM

Bottom line is this sounds like nothing but a bunch of jealous dickheads who can't admit that females move up within the department instead of them so you come here pulling your stupid rants and it is libel defamation of character and you as well as this website can be sued for damages. You can't legally includes full names in your jealous rants publically about others.

People who sleep around are searching for their knight in shining armor because they are not happy at home. If a guy is sleeping around its all high fives and glory but if a female gives in to those con artists only wanting sex then she's a slut when noone knows who or what they are sleeping with for certain be a use its no one's business. I had a reputation as a slut due to a jealous female while I was still a virgin. Rumors are just that unless you watched which I highly doubt.

Admit you are failures and some females actually can do a damn good job and move up in ranks ahead of you because they deserve it more than you.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Responder ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:26AM

well if the FD upper management knew about her getting bullied by this site, then obviously they knew of her behavior. In my opinion, before things get way out of hand for anyone, speak to them about their behavior. if she was doing this at work or even outside of work, the FD should have told her that this is NOT a reflection of a FFX County fire fighter,. and to get her actions in check. what you do off the clock also reflects who you ARE at work. I do understand that what you do on your time is your business, but there is a thing as off duty misconduct, correct. You cannot be promiscuous off work and grab people's attention and think nothing is going to happen.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: .... ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:40AM

Responder Wrote:
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> well if the FD upper management knew about her
> getting bullied by this site, then obviously they
> knew of her behavior. In my opinion, before things
> get way out of hand for anyone, speak to them
> about their behavior. if she was doing this at
> work or even outside of work, the FD should have
> told her that this is NOT a reflection of a FFX
> County fire fighter,. and to get her actions in
> check. what you do off the clock also reflects
> who you ARE at work. I do understand that what
> you do on your time is your business, but there is
> a thing as off duty misconduct, correct. You
> cannot be promiscuous off work and grab people's
> attention and think nothing is going to happen.

If they knew about the "bullying", then her survivors have no case. Guaranteed county lawyers went through it with a fine toothed comb, and since no action was taken, they clearly saw nothing wrong.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: whatevergirl ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:43AM

Yeah, Dottie.. people gossip about their coworkers, but these assholes did it on a public forum without any regard to another person's privacy. How would you like it if your coworkers / friends or family decided to take their gossip to the internet for the entire world to see?

That's just a smaller part of the equation though. Clearly you missed the bigger picture. Ya know, that other part ...how it's disgusting, unacceptable, unprofessional to make these kinds of comments about your coworkers:

"A new tramp emerges for us to watch destroy herself."

"Are you saying mittendorf has a whiskers in her knickers?"

"What's the tatto situation on this Mittenderp."

-- and one guy saying he has pics. wtf. Pull your head out of your ass Dottie.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: ESQ ()
Date: April 23, 2016 10:52AM

whatevergirl Wrote:
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> Yeah, Dottie.. people gossip about their
> coworkers, but these assholes did it on a public
> forum without any regard to another person's
> privacy. How would you like it if your coworkers
> / friends or family decided to take their gossip
> to the internet for the entire world to see?
>
> That's just a smaller part of the equation though.
> Clearly you missed the bigger picture. Ya know,
> that other part ...how it's disgusting,
> unacceptable, unprofessional to make these kinds
> of comments about your coworkers:
>
> "A new tramp emerges for us to watch destroy
> herself."
>
> "Are you saying mittendorf has a whiskers in her
> knickers?"
>
> "What's the tatto situation on this Mittenderp."
>
> -- and one guy saying he has pics. wtf. Pull
> your head out of your ass Dottie.



IF what was said about her at the hockey game is true, then she has no expectation of privacy.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: whatevergirl ()
Date: April 23, 2016 11:01AM

I don't care or want to know about this fabled hockey game incident. That's the difference between people who mind their own business and those who don't.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: FormerEmt ()
Date: April 23, 2016 11:07AM

In one sense, it breaks my heart to see all these negative comments about Nicole Mittendorff. On the other hand, it doesn’t surprise me. But there are two sides to this picture that most would not understand unless you worked with these people either as a paid employee or volunteer. A fire station has a more open and intense social and emotional environment than what you might expect in a corporate office. That’s part of what attracts some to that vocation. And those intense personalities are what makes them so good at their jobs.

When I first became a female FXCO volunteer firefighter (FF) and EMT-C back in the late 1970’s, I remember one of the career firefighters warning me that within a month, there would be rumors about me and this or that person, regardless of my involvement with that person. I was also warned that at first, I could expect a lot of harassment and testing me to see if I could take it. And all of that happened. I remember hearing one paid FF bragging about the fact that he liked having volunteers and females around because they were someone that you could abuse and get away with it. But I ignored all that and just did my job.

I also observed a lot of infidelity among the paid staff. On weekends when it was busy, we wouldn’t even try to sleep. We’d just sit up all night and talk until the next call came in. They told me about their various escapades. A few told me that it just seemed to be in their nature and they couldn’t help it despite multiple marriages. And naturally I’d get a lot of proposals. I’d just say that I was happy with my boyfriend.

Firefighting is a very intense and stressful job. One where they can’t make many mistakes. So they vent a lot on each other. Career firefighters were not immune to the personal attacks either. Between the two stations that I worked at, I saw a lot of challenging and arguing. I remember one Lt. constantly saying, “Go ahead L…. Write me a letter. Write me a letter,” referring to a formal union letter of complaint. Standing back from the situation it reminded me of family sibling rivalry where on one hand, they constantly fight. But on the other, if one is in trouble, the whole family responds to help. After a few years, I earned their respect. We still argued and fought. But if a pinch, I knew that they had my back and they knew that I had theirs. They even told me so. It’s been over 30 years since I volunteered, and the people that I worked with are retired and scattered all over the country now. But I’m still friends with many of them on Facebook. There is still that common bond.

I would have to agree that a lot of these posts about Nicole are hurtful and inappropriate. I guess now, with social media, it’s even easier to vent. But as a whole, you shouldn’t allow this human side of Fire Department personal to cloud your perception about their level of professionalism and dedication to their jobs and your safety. They’d go right to the edge for your safety. And I wouldn’t hesitate to trust any of them.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: whoregonnawhore ()
Date: April 23, 2016 01:00PM

@FormerEmt

A whore is a whore, can't justify any of that which you seem to be doing. I assume your bf isn't a FF or a voli so you never had to worry about getting cheated on, but you had any opportunity too and you didn't. Says a lot about your character (it's a good thing you're not a whore) but if you can prevent yourself from slutting around why couldn't she? Excuses, all of it. If she was bullied or harassed my first thought is "what did she do?" and there are many claims backing up that she was a slut; she couldn't handle it so she offed herself.

People don't lie about other people miss, especially if she's one of their own.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: JimmyL19 ()
Date: April 23, 2016 03:05PM

I work FD for a department about 500 strong. Around here even when you know something you dont spread it.Thats bad for the Dept.I can write a book about cheating spouses. What good would it do? Not my business. If you have stock in a relationship with a person who is being cheated on and if just cant stand by and mind your business then use your words in person. Coming online and blasting someone is not what adults should be doing. SHAME ON YOU ALL. I would venture to say the most "outraged" are shitty fat fucks who probably still live at home with mom and help her take care of her 30 cats.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: JimmyL19 ()
Date: April 23, 2016 03:12PM

I hope that when you lose you way and make some bad choices it gets posted on here.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: dankmemer420 ()
Date: April 23, 2016 03:17PM

lel the weak cunt couldn't handle the bantz
everyone defending her is a cuck

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Carolyn ()
Date: April 23, 2016 03:20PM

No one gets it do they, rumors and gossip is what causes suicide because it diminishes a persons self worth, did anyone try to help her?

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Witnesstothemess ()
Date: April 23, 2016 03:23PM

whoregonnawhore Wrote:
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> People don't lie about other people miss,
> especially if she's one of their own.


That is the most ridiculous thing to say! People LIE EVERY DAY! And they LIE about what ever they want to. EVEN their co-workers.
Don't even associate her with the same group of immature idiots from the FD who chose to gossip on this forum.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: deadasdicks ()
Date: April 23, 2016 04:09PM

Witnesstothemess Wrote:
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> whoregonnawhore Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > People don't lie about other people miss,
> > especially if she's one of their own.
>
>
> That is the most ridiculous thing to say! People
> LIE EVERY DAY! And they LIE about what ever they
> want to. EVEN their co-workers.
> Don't even associate her with the same group of
> immature idiots from the FD who chose to gossip on
> this forum.

People start rumours, yes, but if she wasn't a slut people would have come out and defend her and call that accuser out on their BS. So far no one is coming out and defending her saying she isn't a slut. All of you guys are just saying "yeah, well, she is a slut and all but that doesn't give the right to bully her!" No one is glad she is dead, everyone is pointing out the obvious, she was a slut and she couldn't handle the reputation of being a cheating slut. I don't want my FFs to be fucking each other, it's unprofessional and gross. White knighting a dead chick all you want, but the truth is she is a slut, probably ruined many men and broke up a lot of families. I never knew this woman up till now, I don't work for the FFs and I'm glad she is dead.


So one dead slut is good in my book. To be honest, as a proud tax payer I rather have no female firefighters or EMTs. Reading this forums, and others just proves men and women can't work professionally with each other and will just turn into a bunch of beasts fucking each other out of primal instincts. Seriously, if she wasn't in this line of work do you think she wouldn't be as temped to sleep around? I highly doubt it, sluts are gonna slut, but if she a different job she might not be dead, who knows.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: whoa ()
Date: April 23, 2016 04:11PM

You are glad that she is dead? You're a piece of shit.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: JimmyL19 ()
Date: April 23, 2016 05:09PM

I always thought people like you were doing this angle for attention. Hell, I do it sometimes. When something like this happens its time to go troll another topic. Its not a white Knight roll. Its a human approach to a fucked up situation that someone killed themselves over. Let it go taxpayer. lol once you use that I cant even talk to you anymore. You are probably going to vote for Trump too? Arent you? I thought Virginia was far enough away from the southern culture to breed a mind like yours.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Quinoa ()
Date: April 23, 2016 05:34PM

To the egotistical arrogant members of the Fairfax fire department, you are a disgrace to the department, profession, yourself and the human race. I can't believe any one would post the things you have about a comrade. I hope you are found fired and charged criminally for your actions. I have been in emergency services for over 40 years as a paramedic, fire fighter, educator, and leader and never have I witnessed such immature actions. Most of you know nothing about being a true professional or what it takes to be there. I hope our friend karma has a feast when it shows up on your stupid ass.

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Re: Cyber Bullying at Fairfax Fire Department
Posted by: Ying Ko ()
Date: April 23, 2016 05:44PM

Quinoa Wrote:
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> To the egotistical arrogant members of the Fairfax
> fire department, you are a disgrace to the
> department, profession, yourself and the human
> race. I can't believe any one would post the
> things you have about a comrade. I hope you are
> found fired and charged criminally for your
> actions. I have been in emergency services for
> over 40 years as a paramedic, fire fighter,
> educator, and leader and never have I witnessed
> such immature actions. Most of you know nothing
> about being a true professional or what it takes
> to be there. I hope our friend karma has a feast
> when it shows up on your stupid ass.

yada, yada,blah, blah

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