Re: Saudi govt. bribing Ffx. County?
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
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Date: July 16, 2009 01:13AM
Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> > But the point remains, when has science (The
> basic
> > drive for evidentiary support of theories) ever
> > been able to irrefutably contradict religion?
> Some
> > of the greatest minds in science will even be
> the
> > first to admit that their work has proven the
> > existence of God to them, for any number of
> > reasons, the least of which involves the fact
> that
> > there is an infinite amount of that which we
> > cannot explain, and what we cannot comprehend.
> You
> > might be correct in certain specific examples,
> > such as the Salem Witch Trials for instance,
> but
> > what you are referring to is an issue
> pertaining
> > to extremes and a lack of logic. Religion and
> > Logic in their own right do not run
> contradictory
> > to eachother.
>
>
> "God" is the underlying ordering principle to the
> universe.
>
> How did cells evolve to create the optic nerve, or
> the retina, or the cornea? How did cells evolve
> to create the brain, or the liver, or the heart,
> lungs, etc.
>
> Yes, we all know there is an ordering principle
> that rules the entire universe, and that created
> the universe, and that spawned life.
>
> The problem with many peoples' experience with
> religion and "God" is that they think it is a
> person sitting in a cloud making real time
> decisions about them in particular.
>
> They actually believe the shit being fed to them
> in those mega churches or mosques, and they really
> think that they can be "saved" by killing abortion
> doctors, or infidel Americans, or Israelis, or
> whatever the fuck else.
>
> God is abstract. He or it may really exist. Or
> it could just be the ordering principle of life
> and the universe. To think otherwise is
> misanthropormophizing something no human could
> ever understand. Trying to turn it into something
> human when it isn't human at all.
I have no idea what religion you or others have any experience with, if any at all, but the Christian definition of God (That I am familiar with) is that he represents an all encompassing entity, not a person (Like an Angel or Saint for instance).
Those abortion doctors you mention, and other such killings, are the works of a few nutjobs, and nothing more. They have occurred on such a limited basis compared to the militant Islam problem currently facing us however, and therefore even though they bring forth the fact that we have whackos and extremists in EVERY Religion, and EVERY walk of life known to man, they should be placed into a relevant context.
Hey, I agree with you that people do allow themselves to be brainwashed, and I believe Thomas Jefferson when he essentially mentioned the fact that we do ourselves a favor when we practice our faith and religion with logic and common sense. Such advice would have prevented countless problems over the past centuries, including occurrences such as the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Burning and Drowning of "Witches", Heretics, and so forth, and the current (as you mention) wanting and fiending by certain radicalized Muslims in their quest to succeed in killing "Infidels". In Pakistan for instance, they typically have bombings every Friday after Prayer, and the only reason this is so, is because the Imams get everyone hyped up on hate filled rhetoric, and soon enough they just act as a senseless mob of ignorant rioters roaming the city streets looking for heads to roll.