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High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nostadamusito Jr ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:18PM

Any predictions for 20016 football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I predict pain ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:21PM

Clubber do you have any predictions for the fight?

I predict PAIN.......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO and LB ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:25PM

SOCO and Lake Braddock will be a collective 20-0 going into the playoffs and then both lose in the first round

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fn ()
Date: December 12, 2015 07:29PM

As another football season has come to a close, one looks ahead to the next year and the prospects of the local teams that they support. Best of luck to all the teams in your quest to reach the playoffs, regional finals, and a state championship!

May the Northern Region teams come out on top across the board in 2016!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I root for Marshall and TJ ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:09PM

Here's to Marshall and TJ winning next year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I dink dat ()
Date: December 12, 2015 08:49PM

Football is going away for good after that Will Smith movie

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Who will be good ()
Date: December 13, 2015 07:38AM

Which team has the most coming back

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loudoun ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:01AM

Broad Run has a lot of talent coming back. Might be best Loudoun has to offer next year. Got off to a great start this year before injuries took a toll.

Very athletic, and now a good O line to match.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loudon vs Fairfax ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:04AM

I say the wins by the Loudon teams over Fairfax were a temporary one time thing, won't happen again next year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tru dat boys ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:38AM

fairfax better

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Info ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:09AM

Westfield- Returns lots of talent and will prob be the best team in Concorde again. Don't be surprised to see them go to states again.

C'Ville- Will be much improved from last season's disappointment, big year for Hackett seeing if he can get his program back at their state title levels.

Robinson- Can't say I know much about their program but they pretty muck are always a tough team so I'll rank them 3rd.

Oakton- Loses quite a bit on defense, but returns a healthy number of offensive players. Look for another 5-5, 6-4 season.

Tilly- That offense will take a big step back w/o QB Tamarro and all around stud Sparks. Appears that the Chargers are in for a tough season.

Herndon- They'll still blow.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 is King ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:11AM

I hope that 703 can carry our own against Loudoun this season, we need teams like Oakton, who gets both Loudoun schools at home, to pull their weight.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not just Oakton ()
Date: December 13, 2015 12:13PM

A few more teams besides Oakton need to carry their own weight next year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty information ()
Date: December 13, 2015 12:58PM

Concorde Info Wrote:
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> Westfield- Returns lots of talent and will prob be
> the best team in Concorde again. Don't be
> surprised to see them go to states again.
>
> C'Ville- Will be much improved from last season's
> disappointment, big year for Hackett seeing if he
> can get his program back at their state title
> levels.
>
> Robinson- Can't say I know much about their
> program but they pretty muck are always a tough
> team so I'll rank them 3rd.
>
> Oakton- Loses quite a bit on defense, but returns
> a healthy number of offensive players. Look for
> another 5-5, 6-4 season.
>
> Tilly- That offense will take a big step back w/o
> QB Tamarro and all around stud Sparks. Appears
> that the Chargers are in for a tough season.
>
> Herndon- They'll still blow.

Thanks for posting this. You've inspired me to do the same for Liberty. Here's my way to early predictions for 2016

1. Madison -- They are losing a good bit on their line, but judging by their lower level programs, it looks like they have a lot that can replace them. I think they are still the team to beat.

2. South Lakes -- This team is moving in the right direction. Going in to this season, I thought they were a year away, so that 2016 would be their year. I'm standing by that for this season.

3. Langley -- Places #3, #4, and #5 in Liberty are almost interchangeable, but I'll go with Langley #3. I don't think Langley was as bad in 2015 as their 2015 record indicates. I look for them to bounce back in 2016

4. Hayfield --Figures to take a step back with the loss of their QB and RB

5. Fairfax -- Their 1-9 record for 2015 has to be considered an aberration. They tend to have more depth than most Liberty teams, but the big question mark is how they'll adjust to the new coach. They should be better on offense in 2016 than 2015, but defense is a question mark. There is a lot of talent in the class of 2018 there, so they may be one year away from being a real contender.

6. Yorktown -- I see depth as an issue for them. Although W-L beat them this year, their lower level programs beat W-L, so I think they will edge W-L for sixth place.

7. Washington - Lee -- W-L definitely overachieved this year, and credit to their coaching staff that made the adjustments to allow them turn around a 1-4 start. They are losing a lot, and their lower level programs weren't very successful in 2015.

8. McLean -- Depth is a real issue here (I think they had to cancel the last game of their JV season due to lack of participation). They were 1-9, but unlike Fairfax, a 1-9 record isn't an aberration. I can't see the new Fairfax coaching staff gift-wrapping a win for them like this year's staff did, so unless someone else steps up to the plate, 0-10 is a possibility.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Can we be honest? ()
Date: December 13, 2015 02:09PM

The top five teams from the Concorde could win the Liberty Conference next year...

It is unreal how large the disparity is between the best 6A conference in the area vs the worst.

However, even that disparity is insignificant when you look at the best 5A conference vs the worst.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some things never ()
Date: December 13, 2015 03:16PM

Some things never change

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Crystal Ball ()
Date: December 13, 2015 04:36PM

Dear idiots,
There are only a few jobs in Fairfax worth a nickel. Westfield is by far the best job. While Simmons and staff did a good job winning states most okay coaches could win 8 every year. The next best jobs are CV, SC, LB, Oak, Tilly. You can shuffle these 5 around as you like from year to year. The last couple years CV was on top. Before that Oak had a year and before that LB. Seems like WF is always in the top 1 or 2. They have the biggest school with the best demographic. Duh!
When Chantilly has had some talent Lalli gets them there, same with the other staffs. To much hate on this site. Pick the biggest schools with the best demographics.Next year it will be Oscar Smith or Ocean Lakes vs WF or 1 of 5 mentioned or maybe Battlefield. Population moved WESTWARD....that is why TC, Ann, WP and MV were once power houses and now bottom dwellers and Loudoun stepped up

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Het ()
Date: December 13, 2015 04:37PM

Can we be honest? Wrote:
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> The top five teams from the Concorde could win the
> Liberty Conference next year...
>
> It is unreal how large the disparity is between
> the best 6A conference in the area vs the worst.
>
> However, even that disparity is insignificant when
> you look at the best 5A conference vs the worst.

The second best Liberty team beat the eventual state champion jackass.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly Is The Biggest ()
Date: December 13, 2015 04:50PM

I think Chantilly was the biggest school this year population wise. If not it's pretty damn close to Westfield. Demography wise I agree.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 05:17PM

Crystal Ball Wrote:
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> Dear idiots,
> There are only a few jobs in Fairfax worth a
> nickel. Westfield is by far the best job. While
> Simmons and staff did a good job winning states
> most okay coaches could win 8 every year. The next
> best jobs are CV, SC, LB, Oak, Tilly. You can
> shuffle these 5 around as you like from year to
> year. The last couple years CV was on top. Before
> that Oak had a year and before that LB. Seems like
> WF is always in the top 1 or 2. They have the
> biggest school with the best demographic. Duh!
> When Chantilly has had some talent Lalli gets them
> there, same with the other staffs. To much hate on
> this site. Pick the biggest schools with the best
> demographics.Next year it will be Oscar Smith or
> Ocean Lakes vs WF or 1 of 5 mentioned or maybe
> Battlefield. Population moved WESTWARD....that is
> why TC, Ann, WP and MV were once power houses and
> now bottom dwellers and Loudoun stepped up

It is impossible for Westfield to get any credit from some people. Westfield is not and has not been the largest school in FCPS:

Last year:
Robinson 2790
Chantilly 2692 (-98)
Westfield 2682 (-108)
Lake Braddock 2660 (-130)
Fairfax 2573 (-217)
West Potomac 2464 (-326)
Centreville 2436 (-354)
South Lakes 2378 (-412)
Woodson 2359 (-431)
Herndon 2267 (-523)
Oakton 2267 (-523)
West Springfield 2247 (-543)
South County 2114 (-676)
Annandale 2162 (-628)
Madison 2059 (-731)
McLean 2050 (-740)
Langley 1996 (-795)
Hayfield 1992 (-798)
Mount Vernon 1965 (-825)

This year:
Lake Braddock 2772
Chantilly 2693
Robinson 2653
Westfield 2608
Centreville 2472
West Potomac 2466
Woodson 2446
South Lakes 2436
Fairfax 2414
Oakton 2412
Herndon 2264
West Springfield 2218
South County 2186
Annandale 2158
Madison 2123
McLean 2089
Marshall 2036
Hayfield 1975
Stuart 1973
Mount Vernon 1972
Langley 1967
Edison 1934
Falls Church 1867
Thomas Jefferson 1823
Lee 1764

Your jumbled nonsense about demographics are silly. At the extremes you are correct but for the the middle of the pack schools demographics are not that greatly different between schools. If enrollment and demographics are all that matters why do Fairfax and Woodson suck year after year? Why is South County such an ideal job?

A large portion of it is coaching and a significant factor is what athletes are coming through the program at any given time. For you to argue that any other mediocre coach would have easily gotten Westfield past the Centreville teams of the last few years is in a word: wrong. Winning a state or regional championship is obviously extremely difficult in 6A in Virginia. Obviously so because the best programs in NOVA, Richmond and Beach cannot consistently repeat year after year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Smith ()
Date: December 13, 2015 05:17PM

Smith had only 2 senior starters. See whomever reps the Northern Region in Charlottesville again in 2016.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Demographics? ()
Date: December 13, 2015 05:21PM

Now that I think about it, I doubt Westfield's demographics are anything special for football. Anyone know what they are? I know that there are a lot of brown and asian people at the school for sure.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: In His Defense ()
Date: December 13, 2015 05:23PM

In his defense Westfield has the largest building in the county for 4 year HS. And for most of its history it was the biggest school population wise in FCPS. A couple of years at 3000 and one year at almost 3330!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield has it easy ()
Date: December 13, 2015 07:33PM

Anybody could win with what Westfield has in terms of demographics each year....easy

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Schedules? ()
Date: December 13, 2015 07:43PM

Hearing that schedules will be inverse of what they were this season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Same Schedule? ()
Date: December 13, 2015 08:01PM

If the schedules are the same then Westfield would just walkthrough it easily. 10-0, SoCo should be 9-1, and LB should be 9-1. Everything else almost the same.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 08:04PM

Verbanic - a true coaching legend - was 12-10 his last two years at Westfield. It ain't "easy." Simmons has gone 61-8 in the next five.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: really bro? ()
Date: December 13, 2015 08:04PM

Westfield has it easy Wrote:
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> Anybody could win with what Westfield has in terms
> of demographics each year....easy


Really? Then how come LB and Robinson never make it to the regional game as much as Westfield? How come Chantilly is mediocre?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO rules ()
Date: December 13, 2015 08:20PM

Westfield has it easy and of course everyone knows it - should put an asterisk by their wins.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:23PM

> The second best Liberty team beat the eventual state champion jackass.

What?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pomposity boy ()
Date: December 13, 2015 09:45PM

Liberty would be Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty sux ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:04PM

Just look and see how many good teams Madsion played all last season. Two teams. Wanna know who they were? Oakton and Tilly. Wanna know how they did? Madison lost both of them. Perhaps if Oakton could get moved over to the Liberty, or maybe even Herndon, then that conference would be saved (if Oakton is added). Otherwise, continue to watch "good teams" like Madison lose to Oakton, win their cupcake-ass non-con games, win all their "difficult" conference games, and then proceed to get whooped by average 6A teams, like Tilly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:11PM

Liberty sux Wrote:
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> Just look and see how many good teams Madsion
> played all last season. Two teams. Wanna know who
> they were? Oakton and Tilly. Wanna know how they
> did? Madison lost both of them.

Madison beat Stone Bridge - the 5A state runner-up. Stone Bridge beat Tilly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 13, 2015 10:14PM

Liberty sux Wrote:
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> Perhaps if Oakton could get moved over to the Liberty, or maybe even
> Herndon, then that conference would be saved (if
> Oakton is added). Otherwise, continue to watch
> "good teams" like Madison lose to Oakton, win
> their cupcake-ass non-con games, win all their
> "difficult" conference games, and then proceed to
> get whooped by average 6A teams, like Tilly.

A "good" Liberty team - South Lakes - beat an "average " 6A team - Oakton - in the first round of the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: You dumb fuck ()
Date: December 13, 2015 11:04PM

What the f are you talking about?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: oakton sux ()
Date: December 14, 2015 08:49AM

Where is all this "oakton is one of the top coaching jobs" and "maybe they could save Liberty by joining" coming from? Oakton lost a ton of it's talent base when Fox Mill got redistricted to SL. They are only as competitive as they are as a middling concorde team because they currently have a very good coach.

I was at the SL/Oakton playoff game sitting on the oakton side since there were more seats available there. Talk about a bunch of entitled bitches, parents, players gesturing for a flag after every play and of course the posts to the'15 football thread predicting regional dominance and/or a crushing victory over SL. Face it Oakton, you're heading in the direction of Herndon and that slide will only accelerate if Rowley steps down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: helpy helperton ()
Date: December 14, 2015 09:12AM

Het Wrote:
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> Can we be honest? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The top five teams from the Concorde could win
> the
> > Liberty Conference next year...
> >
> > It is unreal how large the disparity is between
> > the best 6A conference in the area vs the
> worst.
> >
> > However, even that disparity is insignificant
> when
> > you look at the best 5A conference vs the
> worst.
>
> The second best Liberty team would have beaten the eventual
> state champion if the game ended half-way through the 4th quarter jackass.

Fixed it for you.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Bulldogs ()
Date: December 14, 2015 09:28AM

Westfield looses about 9 defensive starters with Petrillo being the only really good defensive starter returning. They bring back most of the offense losing their center, big right guard, Scanlon and H Johnson WR.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Bulldogs ()
Date: December 14, 2015 09:33AM

Westfield loses.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfields Future ()
Date: December 14, 2015 10:16AM

Westfields Freshmen had the best record in the Concorde and beat Centrevilles freshman by 50. Westfields JV shutout 6 teams and allowed 18 points all year long. I think they will be fine. Eckert, Frimpong, and Johnson are coming back. So is Cockrill.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NOVA REJECT ()
Date: December 14, 2015 11:04AM

SCOTT WOODLEIF IS THE BEST COACH IN VIRGINIA, JUST ASK HIM!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scout ()
Date: December 14, 2015 02:38PM

Reloaded!

Westfield Defense Will have a Strong Front 4, Jewell and Cockrill setting the edges, Aaron Daiz and Naz Calhoun Plugging the 1's and 3's. Petrillo and Malo will fill the Middle with Winesett, Lydic helping on the edges. j.Free will roam secondary with Steinhilber and a few yet to be determined. pretty solid Base with a few JV guys Stepping up to role play, Demoney, Roberson, Chapman Greene, Alston as well as possibly one or two of this years Freshmen playing a role.

As for Offense, your line will feature 4 that saw significant time/Starters in Jean Marc, Edward Q, Christian Carl and Nolan Cockrill. Looking for a Center to emerge(St. Germain) as well as another tackle and TE/FB to off-set Cockrill. WR's feature Frimpong, Eckert and look for Pickett or Burns to step into the Slot. Johnson Should Be under Center, Backed up By Keily and Mullins. the Backfield should be Well rounded with Chung, Asante and McClean.

Delaney Returns for Special Teams. All in All...this Program Looks to be poised for another deep play-off Run.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton has decent players, good ()
Date: December 14, 2015 04:32PM

oakton sux Wrote:
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> Where is all this "oakton is one of the top
> coaching jobs" and "maybe they could save Liberty
> by joining" coming from? Oakton lost a ton of
> it's talent base when Fox Mill got redistricted to
> SL. They are only as competitive as they are as a
> middling concorde team because they currently have
> a very good coach.
>
> I was at the SL/Oakton playoff game sitting on the
> oakton side since there were more seats available
> there. Talk about a bunch of entitled bitches,
> parents, players gesturing for a flag after every
> play and of course the posts to the'15 football
> thread predicting regional dominance and/or a
> crushing victory over SL. Face it Oakton, you're
> heading in the direction of Herndon and that slide
> will only accelerate if Rowley steps down.
Oakton has fewer students ( I believe) than the rest of the Concorde and is closer geographically than any other Concorde teams to the Liberty. Moving them to the Liberty would benefit all parties involved in the sense that easier schedule for them, strengthens the Liberty, and makes Concorde more competitive. Don't mistaken me for some of those other Oakton posters they're a bit crazy and irrational still thinking that it is 2005. My team in Chantilly, who has pretty much dominated Oakton ever since Thompson left the school. Last season was our shot at making a run in the playoffs but losing to C'Ville in the end of the season ended our hopes of perhaps being an interesting team in the playoffs (that win over Madison was sweet tho.) Here's to a winning season in the Post-Tammaro era.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What makes Westfield so good ()
Date: December 14, 2015 04:35PM

Is the high number of kids who want to be in that program, Their JV team had around 70 players, which is more than what teams will carry on their Varsity team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Question about Chantilly? ()
Date: December 14, 2015 05:18PM

How come Chantilly isn't consistently a 7-8 win team? They have more students than Westfield and similar demographics. The coaching staff isn't that bad either. Do kids there just not enjoy football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Demos ()
Date: December 14, 2015 05:33PM

Oakton's at 2,500 in 2016 and is projected to climb to 2,637 by 2020.

Westfield's at 2,565 in '16 and projected to be at 2,610 in '20.

Cville at 2,519 in '16 and projected to 2,566 in '20.

Tilly at 2,763 in '16 and projected to 2,731 in '20

Herndon at 2,307 in '16, projected to 2,485 in '20

Robo at 2,688 in '16, projected to 2,649 in '20.

Assuming these projections are accurate it looks like none of these schools has a pure numbers advantage over any other.

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/hsenroll15-16.html

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: over done ()
Date: December 14, 2015 06:36PM

Westfield is overrated

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 14, 2015 07:09PM

I've read the threads above about Concorde teams, and Oakton in particular. Those who would have Oakton leave Concorde need to think about who takes their place. As it is, Concorde sits at only six teams. They can't be made smaller. The other conferences, which have 8 teams in 6A (except for PWC, which is a different issue), have 8 and are at capacity. If you propose to take Oakton out of Concorde, your proposal can't be taken seriously unless you identify an appropriate replacement.

The same is true for those who suggest that Herdon should be moved out.

We'll have a new alignment after the end of next year, and I really hope that two current Fairfax or Arlington teams that are in 5A will be moved up. Based on the number of VHSL schools, each division should have 52 teams. Adding two more would makes a total of 24 6A teams in Fairfax Co and Arlington Co. That would allow the Northern PWC teams to be sent south, to be aligned with Southern PWC, and would allow the creation of either three 8 team conferences in 6A North, or four six team conferences. This would solve a competitive balance issue that we have in other sports. For those sports, if you are in Liberty or Patriot, you have to be better than four teams to make the playoffs, but you only need to be better than two other teams in Concorde, and only one other team in PWC. This isn't an issue for football the way they do the playoffs, but it seems strange that any PWC teams play in the Northern playoffs, since they don't otherwise play any Fairfax or Arlington County schools.

Having 24 in North would require 28 in south, which is a bit imbalanced between the two regions, but it's not bad, and I frankly don't care if more South teams have to duke it out against each other. Alternatively, if four 5A teams came up, there would be two conferences of 6 and two of seven, which balances the regions, and isn't bad in terms of conferences within the regions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 14, 2015 07:20PM

Question about Chantilly? Wrote:
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> How come Chantilly isn't consistently a 7-8 win
> team? They have more students than Westfield and
> similar demographics. The coaching staff isn't
> that bad either. Do kids there just not enjoy
> football?

Because there is not a 100% direct correlation between population and demographics and success in a sport. Chantilly, Robinson and Langley have great lacrosse programs - usually much better than Westfield. You could ask why is that? Why do Oakton and Robinson consistently have the best swim & dive? Why are Oakton, Robinson and Lake Braddock usually the the best XC? Why is Madison baseball always good and Robinson wrestling always good? Many factors involved...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Basketball School, IMO ()
Date: December 14, 2015 09:49PM

Question about Chantilly? Wrote:
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> How come Chantilly isn't consistently a 7-8 win
> team? They have more students than Westfield and
> similar demographics. The coaching staff isn't
> that bad either. Do kids there just not enjoy
> football?
Always thought Chantilly was a basketball school, have had some good season in recent years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Question for you guys ()
Date: December 14, 2015 10:00PM

Has a 6A North School ever won both the football and basketball championship the same year? Do you guys think WF can do it this year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: knowerofthings ()
Date: December 14, 2015 10:35PM

Question for you guys Wrote:
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> Has a 6A North School ever won both the football
> and basketball championship the same year? Do you
> guys think WF can do it this year?


The answer is no. And no I don't think WF will either. They will be good but they do not have the depth last year's team had.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Time for 2016 ()
Date: December 15, 2015 12:09PM

Two Thousand 15 season is over moved into two thousand 16

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region Preview ()
Date: December 15, 2015 12:21PM

Way to early Top 10:

1) Westfield
2) Battlefield
3) South County
4) Centreville
5) Lake Braddock
6) South Lakes
6) West Potomac
7) West Springfield
8) Robinson
9) Madison
10) Who Knows??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 15, 2015 12:26PM

Northern Region Preview Wrote:
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> Way to early Top 10:
>
> 1) Westfield
> 2) Battlefield
> 3) South County
> 4) Centreville
> 5) Lake Braddock
> 6) South Lakes
> 6) West Potomac
> 7) West Springfield
> 8) Robinson
> 9) Madison
> 10) Who Knows??

Since there are 27 teams, this is the top 1/3. Not sure you are missing anything by not having a #10.

I think Centreville belongs, but I'm not sure I'd have them that high. Also, I'm not sure that I would put South Lakes ahead of Madison, though both should be in the top 1/3 of 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantiily Alumni ()
Date: December 15, 2015 05:29PM

A previous poster wanted to know why Chantilly football doesn't win as much as Westfield or Centerville ? a very simple answer - the kids don't want to play for Lalli - even his brothers don't want to coach with him . Class of 2015 had 60 kids playing freshman football and by there senior year he had 7 of those 60 left - many went to focus on lacrosse because Lalli was a prick and only wanted them to do football . The lax kids were 2 minutes from winning there 2nd state championship and many of those kids had played football during there first 2 years at CHS . CYA FOOTBALL is as good as any youth program in the county [ in fact many Westfield kids played CYA INSTEAD OF SYA ) - With 2800 kids at the school they should be much more competitive than they have been in the last 5 years .Until the AD pulls the plug on Lalli they will continue to win games against West springfield and Annandale and get blasted when they start conference play against the Robinsons , Westfields and Centervilles

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty Observer... ()
Date: December 15, 2015 05:58PM

People are overlooking South Lakes SR. Class. There were some real good athletes on that team. Grunshie and Kirlew will be sorely missed next year. The QB won't have many targets to throw too next year. SL TE will be hard to replace too. I expect there defense to be solid but there secondary will be suspect. I think SL takes a step back next year. Madison should be the favorite and I expect Fairfax and Langley to compete for top 3 spots. Hayfields freshman teams hasn't lost in 3 years. There be good next year too.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: liberty fan ()
Date: December 16, 2015 08:19AM

I feel that SL, Madison and Hayfield will be battling it out in the Liberty. SL has some athletes coming back, Madison does too but to a lesser extent.

Hayfield who was a huge disappointment this season has lots coming up from the lower levels and should be right in the mix. The key is if the coaching staff are smart enough and willing to alter their playbook and match their schemes to their personnel.

Langley, Fairfax should be improved. Of course at Fairfax the selection of a new coach will be important.

The Arlington schools will struggle next year but should be competitive. Both programs have good head coaches.

McLean may be at the bottom, they just don't have the numbers. They had to forfeit F and JV games at the end of the season I heard. Not a good sign for next season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: December 16, 2015 11:47AM

liberty fan Wrote:
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> I feel that SL, Madison and Hayfield will be
> battling it out in the Liberty. SL has some
> athletes coming back, Madison does too but to a
> lesser extent.
>
> Hayfield who was a huge disappointment this season
> has lots coming up from the lower levels and
> should be right in the mix. The key is if the
> coaching staff are smart enough and willing to
> alter their playbook and match their schemes to
> their personnel.
>
> Langley, Fairfax should be improved. Of course at
> Fairfax the selection of a new coach will be
> important.
>
> The Arlington schools will struggle next year but
> should be competitive. Both programs have good
> head coaches.
>
> McLean may be at the bottom, they just don't have
> the numbers. They had to forfeit F and JV games
> at the end of the season I heard. Not a good sign
> for next season.

That's about how I see the pecking order for next year. For all the teams, the indicators should be what's coming back, and how well the JV teams did last year. Here's how Liberty's JV teams did in 2015 (remember that JV plays only an 8 game schedule):

1. Madison -- 8-0, overall, 7-0 in conference. (nonconference win v. Marshall)
2. Three way tie:
(a) Fairfax: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference. Conference losses were to Madison, Langley and Hayfield. Nonconference win v. Woodson, score 26-3.
(b) South Lakes: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference. Conference losses were to Madison, Fairfax and Langley. Nonconference win v. Herdon, score 7-0
(c) Langley: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference. Conference losses were to Madison, Yorktown and Hayfield. Nonconference win was against Potomac Falls. Their website shows that the last game v. McLean was canceled, which I am assuming was forfeited by McLean, and counts as a win for Langley. Otherwise, they are 4-3 and 3-3.

5. Two way tie
(a) Yorktown: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference. Conference losses to Fairfax, Madison and South Lakes. Nonconference loss to Broad Run
(b) Hayfield: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference. Conference losses to Madison, South Lakes, Yorktown. Nonconference loss to South County. It looks like one of Hayfield's wins was one of those McLean forfeits. If that win doesn't count, they are 3-4 overall, 3-3 in conference.

7. Washington-Lee: 1-7 overall, 1-6 in conference. Sole win was v. McLean. Nonconference loss v. Wakefield.

8. McLean: 0-8 overall, 0-7 in conference. Nonconference loss was to Chantilly. Games v. Hayfield and Langley look like possible forfeits.

I'm not sure what everyone has coming back on varsity that didn't play JV, but based on this, I think Madison looks to win Liberty fairly comfortably.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: liberty fan ()
Date: December 16, 2015 02:58PM

Breakdown of the freshmen teams is below. Some of the top freshmen players could be playing on Friday nights next season so it could only help with varsity teams. I tried to gather what I could find for the freshmen teams in the Liberty but some schools did not update their websites. I would tend to agree that Madison could be the favorite based on their lower programs.

Hayfield 8-0, non conference win over South County
Madison 7-1, loss to Hayfield, non conference win of Marshall
South Lakes 6-2, loss to Hayfield and Madison, non conference win on Herndon

Yorktown 4-4? website not updated
Fairfax 3-5, website not updated
Langley 2-6, beat WL beat Fairfax
McLean 1-7 ?, website not updated but they did have to forfeit some games due to lack of players
WL 0-8

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 2015 is gone ()
Date: December 17, 2015 06:53PM

2015 site now dead

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: December 17, 2015 08:06PM

2015 is gone Wrote:
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> 2015 site now dead


Correct. Bring your football discussions here.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty parent ()
Date: December 17, 2015 08:40PM

WL frosh had lots of players, but no size. Unfortunate that McLean doesn't have the participation to field teams for some games. A lot of things can change in 3-4 years. At least for WL, varsity has been respectable. Langley has also had strong teams at the varsity level.

Would be nice with the realignment in two years to bring back the old Great Falls District by adding Marshall and moving Hayfield. Marshall is growing and will soon be 6A.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: December 18, 2015 12:58PM

Conference 6 fan Wrote:
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> liberty fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I feel that SL, Madison and Hayfield will be
> > battling it out in the Liberty. SL has some
> > athletes coming back, Madison does too but to a
> > lesser extent.
> >
> > Hayfield who was a huge disappointment this
> season
> > has lots coming up from the lower levels and
> > should be right in the mix. The key is if the
> > coaching staff are smart enough and willing to
> > alter their playbook and match their schemes to
> > their personnel.
> >
> > Langley, Fairfax should be improved. Of course
> at
> > Fairfax the selection of a new coach will be
> > important.
> >
> > The Arlington schools will struggle next year
> but
> > should be competitive. Both programs have good
> > head coaches.
> >
> > McLean may be at the bottom, they just don't
> have
> > the numbers. They had to forfeit F and JV
> games
> > at the end of the season I heard. Not a good
> sign
> > for next season.
>
> That's about how I see the pecking order for next
> year. For all the teams, the indicators should be
> what's coming back, and how well the JV teams did
> last year. Here's how Liberty's JV teams did in
> 2015 (remember that JV plays only an 8 game
> schedule):
>
> 1. Madison -- 8-0, overall, 7-0 in conference.
> (nonconference win v. Marshall)
> 2. Three way tie:
> (a) Fairfax: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> Conference losses were to Madison, Langley and
> Hayfield. Nonconference win v. Woodson, score
> 26-3.
> (b) South Lakes: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> Conference losses were to Madison, Fairfax and
> Langley. Nonconference win v. Herdon, score 7-0
> (c) Langley: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> Conference losses were to Madison, Yorktown and
> Hayfield. Nonconference win was against Potomac
> Falls. Their website shows that the last game v.
> McLean was canceled, which I am assuming was
> forfeited by McLean, and counts as a win for
> Langley. Otherwise, they are 4-3 and 3-3.
>
> 5. Two way tie
> (a) Yorktown: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> Conference losses to Fairfax, Madison and South
> Lakes. Nonconference loss to Broad Run
> (b) Hayfield: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> Conference losses to Madison, South Lakes,
> Yorktown. Nonconference loss to South County. It
> looks like one of Hayfield's wins was one of those
> McLean forfeits. If that win doesn't count, they
> are 3-4 overall, 3-3 in conference.
>
> 7. Washington-Lee: 1-7 overall, 1-6 in
> conference. Sole win was v. McLean.
> Nonconference loss v. Wakefield.
>
> 8. McLean: 0-8 overall, 0-7 in conference.
> Nonconference loss was to Chantilly. Games v.
> Hayfield and Langley look like possible forfeits.
>
>
> I'm not sure what everyone has coming back on
> varsity that didn't play JV, but based on this, I
> think Madison looks to win Liberty fairly
> comfortably.

JV teams wins and losses isn't always the best baromoter of future success. In 14/15 South Lakes Varsity and JV teams were horrible while the freshman team only lost once to Stone Bridge. A lot of sophmores from the successful freshman team went straight to varsity this past season including the starting QB while at most schools the majority of sophmores will play JV. The fact that this past season's SL JV team went over .500 despite having so many sophmores playing varsity is likely a good indicator of the overall depth of their 2018 class. Madison had a lot of sophmores starting varsity 3 years ago and that team struggled through a 1 win season while sophmores starting for SL this year had a lot of success and gave Westfield their toughest test on their way to Charlottsville.

Freshman teams are often a better indicator of future success but if a school has a good freshmen team but not much at the JV and varsity levels then a lot of those freshmen end up quitting football or transferring out before they matriculate through the program. I know that's happened to SL teams in years past.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tKXdM ()
Date: December 18, 2015 02:06PM

WP All-Met

https://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/2015-fall-allmet/

48 football players from MD/DC
28 football players from VA

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 9Gmh3 ()
Date: December 18, 2015 02:53PM

tKXdM Wrote:
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> WP All-Met
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/2015-fall-allmet
> /
>
> 48 football players from MD/DC
> 28 football players from VA


WHO CARES! THIS IS ABOUT 2016!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tKXdM ()
Date: December 18, 2015 05:01PM

Some of those kids will be playing in 2016 - you want two football threads or one?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South lakes has a bright future ()
Date: December 18, 2015 06:28PM

SL parent Wrote:
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> Conference 6 fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > liberty fan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I feel that SL, Madison and Hayfield will be
> > > battling it out in the Liberty. SL has some
> > > athletes coming back, Madison does too but to
> a
> > > lesser extent.
> > >
> > > Hayfield who was a huge disappointment this
> > season
> > > has lots coming up from the lower levels and
> > > should be right in the mix. The key is if
> the
> > > coaching staff are smart enough and willing
> to
> > > alter their playbook and match their schemes
> to
> > > their personnel.
> > >
> > > Langley, Fairfax should be improved. Of
> course
> > at
> > > Fairfax the selection of a new coach will be
> > > important.
> > >
> > > The Arlington schools will struggle next year
> > but
> > > should be competitive. Both programs have
> good
> > > head coaches.
> > >
> > > McLean may be at the bottom, they just don't
> > have
> > > the numbers. They had to forfeit F and JV
> > games
> > > at the end of the season I heard. Not a good
> > sign
> > > for next season.
> >
> > That's about how I see the pecking order for
> next
> > year. For all the teams, the indicators should
> be
> > what's coming back, and how well the JV teams
> did
> > last year. Here's how Liberty's JV teams did
> in
> > 2015 (remember that JV plays only an 8 game
> > schedule):
> >
> > 1. Madison -- 8-0, overall, 7-0 in conference.
>
> > (nonconference win v. Marshall)
> > 2. Three way tie:
> > (a) Fairfax: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> > Conference losses were to Madison, Langley and
> > Hayfield. Nonconference win v. Woodson, score
> > 26-3.
> > (b) South Lakes: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in
> conference.
> > Conference losses were to Madison, Fairfax and
> > Langley. Nonconference win v. Herdon, score
> 7-0
> > (c) Langley: 5-3 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> > Conference losses were to Madison, Yorktown and
> > Hayfield. Nonconference win was against
> Potomac
> > Falls. Their website shows that the last game
> v.
> > McLean was canceled, which I am assuming was
> > forfeited by McLean, and counts as a win for
> > Langley. Otherwise, they are 4-3 and 3-3.
> >
> > 5. Two way tie
> > (a) Yorktown: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> > Conference losses to Fairfax, Madison and South
> > Lakes. Nonconference loss to Broad Run
> > (b) Hayfield: 4-4 overall, 4-3 in conference.
> > Conference losses to Madison, South Lakes,
> > Yorktown. Nonconference loss to South County.
> It
> > looks like one of Hayfield's wins was one of
> those
> > McLean forfeits. If that win doesn't count,
> they
> > are 3-4 overall, 3-3 in conference.
> >
> > 7. Washington-Lee: 1-7 overall, 1-6 in
> > conference. Sole win was v. McLean.
> > Nonconference loss v. Wakefield.
> >
> > 8. McLean: 0-8 overall, 0-7 in conference.
> > Nonconference loss was to Chantilly. Games v.
> > Hayfield and Langley look like possible
> forfeits.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure what everyone has coming back on
> > varsity that didn't play JV, but based on this,
> I
> > think Madison looks to win Liberty fairly
> > comfortably.
>
> JV teams wins and losses isn't always the best
> baromoter of future success. In 14/15 South Lakes
> Varsity and JV teams were horrible while the
> freshman team only lost once to Stone Bridge. A
> lot of sophmores from the successful freshman team
> went straight to varsity this past season
> including the starting QB while at most schools
> the majority of sophmores will play JV. The fact
> that this past season's SL JV team went over .500
> despite having so many sophmores playing varsity
> is likely a good indicator of the overall depth of
> their 2018 class. Madison had a lot of sophmores
> starting varsity 3 years ago and that team
> struggled through a 1 win season while sophmores
> starting for SL this year had a lot of success and
> gave Westfield their toughest test on their way to
> Charlottsville.
>
> Freshman teams are often a better indicator of
> future success but if a school has a good freshmen
> team but not much at the JV and varsity levels
> then a lot of those freshmen end up quitting
> football or transferring out before they
> matriculate through the program. I know that's
> happened to SL teams in years past.


South Lakes has a good future for sure and definitely challenged Westfield but that was definetly Westfield's worse performance of the year. But great job South Lakes for making WF reconsider who their QB is.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserveralso ()
Date: December 18, 2015 09:31PM

tKXdM Wrote:
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> WP All-Met
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/2015-fall-allmet
> /
>
> 48 football players from MD/DC
> 28 football players from VA

They always so biased against Virginia. How does Hozey Hajibadri (Chantilly) not make even an honoable mention? Rididuclous.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL will be top of Liberty ()
Date: December 19, 2015 06:13PM

Madison maybe them, but SL is a team primed to make a playoff un vs. decent opponents, unlike Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Major changes ()
Date: December 20, 2015 08:53PM

VHSL is making major changes to our regions and conferences. They want to go back to the old system. Welcome back regional finals. But don't expect the conferences to look the same. Huge shake ups coming. You heard it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: XNGh6 ()
Date: December 21, 2015 08:00AM

Major changes Wrote:
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> VHSL is making major changes to our regions and
> conferences. They want to go back to the old
> system. Welcome back regional finals. But don't
> expect the conferences to look the same. Huge
> shake ups coming. You heard it here first.


This has already been discussed here. You're late.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cool but... ()
Date: December 21, 2015 11:09AM

Major changes Wrote:
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> VHSL is making major changes to our regions and
> conferences. They want to go back to the old
> system. Welcome back regional finals. But don't
> expect the conferences to look the same. Huge
> shake ups coming. You heard it here first.
When would this stuff happen I thought schedules were basically sorted out for the upcoming season???

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Coach ()
Date: December 21, 2015 11:43AM

Cool but... Wrote:
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> Major changes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > VHSL is making major changes to our regions and
> > conferences. They want to go back to the old
> > system. Welcome back regional finals. But don't
> > expect the conferences to look the same. Huge
> > shake ups coming. You heard it here first.
> When would this stuff happen I thought schedules
> were basically sorted out for the upcoming
> season???

Every two years changes are made based on enrollment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pride1 ()
Date: December 21, 2015 12:54PM

Coaching search for Fairfax We as a community would love to see Jose Ardone as new coach. A player and neighborhood favorite. Coached here then Went to Westfield, then TC. Would bring in a good coaching staff. I hope we don't get retread head coach from some bygone year. School is very tight lipped but someone saw 1 or 3 DSA going into school last Friday hope it was just for meeting our kids deserve a real football coach.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 21, 2015 12:58PM

That cycle comes up for the 2017-18 school year and VHSL will stay at six classifications but go back to four regions. Then they will only realign based on enrollment every four years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: December 21, 2015 01:41PM

Pride1 Wrote:
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> Coaching search for Fairfax We as a community
> would love to see Jose Ardone as new coach. A
> player and neighborhood favorite. Coached here
> then Went to Westfield, then TC. Would bring in a
> good coaching staff. I hope we don't get retread
> head coach from some bygone year. School is very
> tight lipped but someone saw 1 or 3 DSA going into
> school last Friday hope it was just for meeting
> our kids deserve a real football coach.


The school should be tight lipped about the search. Here's some friendly advice to candidates for this position -- There are only four other football coaching openings this year. The others are Mt. Vernon, JEB Stuart, and TC Williams (TC is just rumored, last I heard). This position is, the best of the openings available. If you are being interviewed, act accordingly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Prideless ()
Date: December 21, 2015 01:47PM

I hope your Local Boy serves you well, Ardone or ISdone as he was known at Westfield was not well received by Westfield Players, Staff or Parents...Good Luck, not what a struggling program needs... and, no-one of any substance is leaving a better program to join him....Who at a winning program would jump ship to go to Fairfax...?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: December 21, 2015 01:54PM

GAU Wrote:
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> That cycle comes up for the 2017-18 school year
> and VHSL will stay at six classifications but go
> back to four regions. Then they will only realign
> based on enrollment every four years.


I heard the same thing last week. What I heard, unfortunately, is that the two regions replacing the current North Region might include all of Fairfax CO, and all of PWC. One region would be Richmond area, and the other region would be Tidewater. I hope that isn't the case; adding all of the PWC schools to the Fairfax County schools would be imbalanced unfairly against schools in the North. This would especially be true if some of the county 5A schools are growing, as they are rumored to be, so that they would join the 6A classification.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: December 21, 2015 02:54PM

TRP Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That cycle comes up for the 2017-18 school year
> > and VHSL will stay at six classifications but
> go
> > back to four regions. Then they will only
> realign
> > based on enrollment every four years.
>
>
> I heard the same thing last week. What I heard,
> unfortunately, is that the two regions replacing
> the current North Region might include all of
> Fairfax CO, and all of PWC. One region would be
> Richmond area, and the other region would be
> Tidewater. I hope that isn't the case; adding all
> of the PWC schools to the Fairfax County schools
> would be imbalanced unfairly against schools in
> the North. This would especially be true if some
> of the county 5A schools are growing, as they are
> rumored to be, so that they would join the 6A
> classification.

Yes, that definitely would not be equitable.

Right now 6A is distributed as such:

Fairfax/Alex/Arl - 22
PWC - 10 (11 next year)
Stafford - 2
Midlothian/Chester - 5
Franklin County - 1
Tidewater - 12

That would leave a region that includes some of PWC down through Richmond and includes Franklin County (they're far enough away that there is no good place for them).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ear to the ground ()
Date: December 21, 2015 09:05PM

There would be two regions in the north, similar to the old northern and northwest, but FCPS and PWC would be split between the two. So in theory you could have a Westfield v South County state championship game. Districts will be blown up - nothing to do with enrollment. The enrollment someone brought up only impacts level of play - i.e. 5 or 6. That is not being discussed in this meeting.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pride1 ()
Date: December 22, 2015 10:36AM

Someone who is loyal to their school, lives in the neighborhood and yes will have good assistants.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Maddox1 ()
Date: December 24, 2015 11:58PM

Going to make this easy on everyone! The coach from Falls Church will be the new football coach at Fairfax, done deal.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Geography ()
Date: December 25, 2015 11:52AM

And that's why Fairfax is no better than 5 & 5 ... Their criteria for a Coach

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: IncreaseThePeace ()
Date: December 25, 2015 12:33PM

Aziz is a good coach and would do well at FFX. Just because your not an old white guy doesn't mean you can't coach.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: novafootballfan ()
Date: December 28, 2015 09:25AM

Maddox1 Wrote:
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> Going to make this easy on everyone! The coach
> from Falls Church will be the new football coach
> at Fairfax, done deal.


He would be a good hire. A better hire would be Marc Matthie, he could not get the thugs at TCW to buy into a culture (working hard and team) that would create winning. I cannot imagine how bad it must have been for him to have left, but he is gone and any school looking for a head coach would be crazy not to interview and then hire him.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: December 28, 2015 11:07PM

novafootballfan Wrote:
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> Maddox1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Going to make this easy on everyone! The coach
> > from Falls Church will be the new football
> coach
> > at Fairfax, done deal.
>
>
> He would be a good hire. A better hire would be
> Marc Matthie, he could not get the thugs at TCW to
> buy into a culture (working hard and team) that
> would create winning. I cannot imagine how bad it
> must have been for him to have left, but he is
> gone and any school looking for a head coach would
> be crazy not to interview and then hire him.

Does anyone know whether Aziz or Mathie applied for the position? I agree those would be good hires.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: InTheKnow... ()
Date: December 29, 2015 05:16PM

Marc Matthie did not apply for the FFX job.

The finalist may come as a surprise to many...

Gordon Leib (Former Madison Coach), Tom Horn (Former Coach), a current Liberty Conference Head Coach (Won't spill the beans) and a current Administrator.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I'm in the know as well ()
Date: December 29, 2015 09:03PM

InTheKnow... Wrote:
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> Marc Matthie did not apply for the FFX job.
>
> The finalist may come as a surprise to many...
>
> Gordon Leib (Former Madison Coach), Tom Horn
> (Former Coach), a current Liberty Conference Head
> Coach (Won't spill the beans) and a current
> Administrator.

There was no current liberty conference coach who interviewed. There was an individual who is a former Liberty conference coach, but is currently in administration. I'm not sure if that was a reference to two separate individuals, or one.

Two of those individuals would be OK. The third would be an absolute disaster. I won't say who would be a disaster.

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Re: High School Football 2016
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Date: December 29, 2015 10:09PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pride1 ()
Date: December 30, 2015 06:25PM

NR football fan Wrote:
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> novafootballfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maddox1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Going to make this easy on everyone! The
> coach
> > > from Falls Church will be the new football
> > coach
> > > at Fairfax, done deal.
> >
> >
> > He would be a good hire. A better hire would
> be
> > Marc Matthie, he could not get the thugs at TCW
> to
> > buy into a culture (working hard and team) that
> > would create winning. I cannot imagine how bad
> it
> > must have been for him to have left, but he is
> > gone and any school looking for a head coach
> would
> > be crazy not to interview and then hire him.
>
> Does anyone know whether Aziz or Mathie applied
> for the position? I agree those would be good
> hires.

Marc Matthie did not apply but would have been DC on coach Ardone's staff along with coach Bassialyga, and TCW QB coach a guy that played at Oakton and WAS QB coach at TCW.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Prideless ()
Date: December 30, 2015 07:29PM

Ardone, who was an assistant line Coach on Westfield JV before his loud, obnoxious, abrasive style got him dropped would be your Choice at Fairfax...you must enjoy the long suffering, I hear FPYC has some ankle biter openings! Mathis is no fool, he will be back with one of the Power 3 or on C-Villes sideline again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pride??? ()
Date: December 30, 2015 07:46PM

Who are the power 3 you speak of?

Also, if you had the option of picking any NoVa coach to run your program for the next five years who would you choose?

My list:
1) Simmonds (Westfield)
2) Rowley (Oakton)
3) Poythress (Lake Braddock)
4) Panoni (South County)
5) Haddock (Centreville)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: December 30, 2015 08:54PM

Pride??? Wrote:
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> Who are the power 3 you speak of?
>
> Also, if you had the option of picking any NoVa
> coach to run your program for the next five years
> who would you choose?
>
> My list:
> 1) Simmons (Westfield)
> 2) Rowley (Oakton)
> 3) Poythress (Lake Braddock)
> 4) Pannoni (South County)
> 5) Haddock (Centreville)

You know what - I think you got the order just about right. Throw in Mickey T. and Mike Burnett... anyone know - is Thompson (SB) really retiring or was that just a rumor?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: December 30, 2015 11:05PM

It's hard to Gauge Rowley and Simmons. They inherited programs that were already established. Credit to them for keeping things going. You have to consider Wakefields coach. He took a really bad program and made them conference champs in a short time. Of course he's not in the good ole boys club so I don't expect his name to be tossed around.

Burnett is probably the coach I'd pick. He built two programs up from the the bottom. Mickey is a good one two.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hate him but ()
Date: December 31, 2015 12:15AM

Poythress took a bad program and has built a consistent winner. Oak ton has slipped under Rowley. Simmons may well end up the best. As far as that other county who cares...get your own site

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scrabble ()
Date: December 31, 2015 09:44AM

Poythress has one of the highest enrollments in the State, LB SHOULD be a top program based on Numbers regardless of who is at the Helm, Unless Poythress can find a way to CLONE Niebrich he will continue to be the darling of his conference and get smacked when he steps out. The same can be said for South County, Westfield and any of the ConCorde/Conference 5 Powers...Rowley is a prime example of #'s meeting better #'s...Oakton is resigned to 6-4/5-5 depending on Herndon's Prowess. Chantilly has been strangled by the Lalli Bug, his saving Grace a first round play-off Win every year, when he goes, Chantilly has a chance to consistently finish 8-2/9-1...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Effect of Redistricting? ()
Date: December 31, 2015 12:43PM

How has the South Lakes Redistricting of 2008 affected Oakton, Westfield, and South Lakes in football? Looks like Westfield hasn't really been affected at all, but this year was the first time they went to states without since the Redistricting. Oakton seems to have taken a step back, and South Lakes keeps growing each year, will probably end up one if the better schools in the area for Football soon.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: oakton ()
Date: December 31, 2015 01:17PM

"How has the South Lakes Redistricting of 2008 affected Oakton, Westfield, and South Lakes in football? Looks like Westfield hasn't really been affected at all, but this year was the first time they went to states without since the Redistricting. Oakton seems to have taken a step back, and South Lakes keeps growing each year, will probably end up one if the better schools in the area for Football soon."

Oakton took a hit. No doubt about that. The Fox Mill area was always a source of good athletes for Oakton, and now that most of those neighborhoods are zoned for South Lakes, and those kids that lived there, but were grandfathered into Oakton, have graduated (or are in) college, that pool of football players is gone forever. Oakton (and Madison) also suffer from the fact that some of the better CYA and VYI football players go on to attend private high schools (Gonzaga and Flint Hill being two schools that have drawn football players away from the near-by public school programs). While Oakton's enrollment is growing, much of that new population consists of URMs that generally don't play football.

Oakton is also hurt by the fact that many of their great athletes in other sports just don't play football (either out of injury concerns or because they devote the entire year to their one sport). Some of Oakton's better basketball, lacrosse and baseball players have not played - think Joe Rizzo, All-American baseball player and South Carolina commit who never played football at Oakton. It seems Centreville and Westfield have had better success getting their multi-sport athletes to play football. It is what it is.

The ranking of coaches above is deceiving. If you were evaluating based on the quality of the coaching staffs at each school, Westfield would be out in front by a wide margin. Oakton, not so much. Let's be honest, the program has not been the same since Joe Thompson left. Oakton's state run in 2012 was a flash in the plan thanks to an All-State QB who performed miracles. No one should expect Oakton to advance far in post-season play in the near future.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfield? ()
Date: December 31, 2015 01:42PM

How about Westfield? Would they be over the top if they still had those kids? Or would they have not made a difference?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: numbersdemographics ()
Date: December 31, 2015 02:05PM

So is it enrollment, demographics, athletes in the system or coaching? Or combination of all of the above. Seems everyone wants to discount winning programs with large enrollments. It's not that simple.

Lake Braddock 2772, 11-2
Chantilly 2693, 6-6
Robinson 2653, 9-4
Westfield 2608, 14-1
Centreville 2472, 4-7
West Potomac 2466, 8-4
Woodson 2446, 4-7
South Lakes 2436, 9-3
Fairfax 2414, 1-9
Oakton 2412, 5-6
Herndon 2264, 2-8
West Springfield 2218, 6-5
South County 2186, 13-1
Annandale 2158, 5-6
Madison 2123, 9-2
McLean 2089, 1-9
Marshall 2036, 6-5
Hayfield 1975, 6-5
Stuart 1973, 1-9
Mount Vernon 1972, 2-8
Langley 1967, 3-7
Edison 1934, 3-7
Falls Church 1867, 4-6
Thomas Jefferson 1823, 0-10
Lee 1764, 3-7

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Reasons why they are bad ()
Date: December 31, 2015 02:34PM

Chantilly - I don't think that they are a football school
Centreville - Just had a down year
Woodson - Idek
Herndon - Probably coaching or demographics, they aren't that big either in all honesty.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GoTribe754 ()
Date: December 31, 2015 03:33PM

Based on the enrollment figures and records, I really hate to admit it but Panonni should be coach of the year. Look what he does with the low enrollment they have at SoCo.

Chokes of the year, LB (1st) and Chantilly (2nd). A perfect example that at some point coaching does matter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Simmons is COY ()
Date: December 31, 2015 03:53PM

GoTribe754 Wrote:
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> Based on the enrollment figures and records, I
> really hate to admit it but Panonni should be
> coach of the year. Look what he does with the low
> enrollment they have at SoCo.
>
> Chokes of the year, LB (1st) and Chantilly (2nd).
> A perfect example that at some point coaching does
> matter.


Panonni as COY? I see where you are coming from but I believe Simmons should be COY. There was so much going on with the players on that team whether it was suspensions or injuries. Yet they dominated everyone in the post season without their best player on defense (Clancy)and their best RB (Pearson) who didn't play the whole year. As for the game they lost in Week 2 against SOCO, do you think any other team could lose 6 starters and still be that competitive versus SOCO?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: January 01, 2016 10:05AM

Can't base everything on enrollment. Demographics play a huge roll. For WF, Pearson never plate a big role. He's a los person who needs to right his ship.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: unknown fan ()
Date: January 01, 2016 12:00PM

Simmons is COY Wrote:
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> GoTribe754 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Based on the enrollment figures and records, I
> > really hate to admit it but Panonni should be
> > coach of the year. Look what he does with the
> low
> > enrollment they have at SoCo.
> >
> > Chokes of the year, LB (1st) and Chantilly
> (2nd).
> > A perfect example that at some point coaching
> does
Disagree I think Madison guys gets it
> > matter.
>
>
> Panonni as COY? I see where you are coming from
> but I believe Simmons should be COY. There was so
> much going on with the players on that team
> whether it was suspensions or injuries. Yet they
> dominated everyone in the post season without
> their best player on defense (Clancy)and their
> best RB (Pearson) who didn't play the whole year.
> As for the game they lost in Week 2 against SOCO,
> do you think any other team could lose 6 starters
> and still be that competitive versus SOCO?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GoTribe754 ()
Date: January 01, 2016 11:48PM

There is no way that anyone can argue the fact that Simmons did a FANTASTIC job at WF. You are correct in that not many teams who lose 6 starters could still be that competitive with Soco in week 2. Having a student population of 2600 doesn't hurt. It would be a lot tougher for Soco to lose 6 starters and have to battle a well coached team like WF.

WF will no doubt be the consensus preseason #1 in NOVA next season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: JIm Patrick ()
Date: January 04, 2016 09:30AM

I got the Fairfax job bitches!!!!!!!!!1
My dad is helping too, so watch out suckers!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watch out!! ()
Date: January 04, 2016 02:09PM

Rumor has it that Soco is having a Green Day practice Saturday!! Looks like they're still hungry and ready to work towards the next season!! This is a dangerous program that is not afraid to get after it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HEMP ()
Date: January 04, 2016 02:28PM

is this Green Day you speak of being Hosted by their Former Center...?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: MV4 ()
Date: January 05, 2016 11:58AM

Mount Vernon new coach how long do we have to wait?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Good stuff ()
Date: January 05, 2016 01:37PM

HEMP Wrote:
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> is this Green Day you speak of being Hosted by
> their Former Center...?


Hosted by their center, and drinks will be provided by the Westfield Beer Pong Chmpions!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: January 05, 2016 02:00PM

MV4 Wrote:
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> Mount Vernon new coach how long do we have to
> wait?


You'll have to wait for the more desirable coaching jobs to be filled before the Mt. Vernon job can be filled. Check back after an official announcement of the new Fairfax coach.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CYA FAN ()
Date: January 05, 2016 05:27PM

Again until they get rid of Lalli Chantilly WILL CONTINUE TO BE A 5-5 CLUB EVERY YEAR -NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY FOR him - they have 2700 students , they have a great feeder program with CYA and good facilities and good kids and its they same shit every year - freshmen teams get 70 kids out and by the time they are seniors there are 10 kids left - doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he is holding the program back

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dietician ()
Date: January 05, 2016 06:34PM

A little inside information, the Westfield kids Didn't drink beer, that's why they Won States, it was Wine Coolers .... Duh!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Savages ()
Date: January 06, 2016 08:46AM

Those Westfield kids worked hard and played hard no question about it. They said we can Dixie cup, and still win states. A group of savages that got it done on and off the field!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 7jXFy ()
Date: January 06, 2016 08:53AM

CYA FAN Wrote:
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> Again until they get rid of Lalli Chantilly WILL
> CONTINUE TO BE A 5-5 CLUB EVERY YEAR -NOBODY WANTS
> TO PLAY FOR him - they have 2700 students , they
> have a great feeder program with CYA and good
> facilities and good kids and its they same shit
> every year - freshmen teams get 70 kids out and by
> the time they are seniors there are 10 kids left -
> doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that
> he is holding the program back

This is just simply not true. He is a very popular coach and figure at Chantilly and he knows how to coach as well as anyone. One of these years they will be headed to STATES again. It's only a matter of time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Um no ()
Date: January 06, 2016 08:55AM

Herndon will go to states before chantilly. Sarcastic but probably not that far off.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ball sport ()
Date: January 06, 2016 11:58AM

when you can walk the Halls of a High School and put together a team of players (not playing Football) that would annihilate the team that you are putting on the field Friday Night(s), there is a major Problem, sure its easy enough for the Coach to Blame the Kids, in this instance, ITS the Coach! Chantilly has as much if not more talent than most schools in the Northern Region their short-coming is Coaching!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: January 06, 2016 06:43PM

Chantilly's roster had 25 seniors, 21 juniors, and 16 sophomore. A team of players that aren't on the team annihilating the team itself? I call BS. Chantilly just doesn't have enough talent. They just need a talented group of kids which they will probably get soon due to the youth programs in the area. For those who are saying that Chantilly is losing players cause of the coaches need to look at their freshman teams. Last year they were average and this year they got demolished by Westfield and Centreville! That's right... Centreville! And some other schools too probably... The Chantilly area might just be down this year but the issue isn't the coaches, it's the talent for sure.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yes really ()
Date: January 06, 2016 09:32PM

Really -it is the coaching - I know the Chantilly program well and they have plenty of talent -again 2700 kids - a great youth program and plenty of lax players [state champs as sophomores and state finalist in 2015] who quit playing football because the coach is a douche and the program is in shambles - look at the top of this page and you will see most schools with 2500-2900 students do much better than a 500 record every year - cya youth sports has had excellent football programs in all age groups -and they get to high school and now are average - doesn't make sense - time for a coaching change -poll the Chantilly community and they will tell you the same

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Really don't know ()
Date: January 06, 2016 09:41PM

Look at Chantillys Freshmen program, a revolving door of coach's totally disconnected from the rest of the Football program, compliments of poor Leadership at the top. Regardless of the quality football players the youth/feeder programs provide...the downfall begins at freshmen and most do not make it to their Junior/senior year in football, while wearing rings from other sports....keep believing what you want and keep settling for 5-5 seasons! While your neighbors 3 miles south and 3 miles west win the big prize...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tilly ()
Date: January 07, 2016 05:06AM

For anyone to say that there are not athletes or its a down year at Chantilly you keep trying to defend Lalli - in the last couple of years the lacrosse program is like 60-10 with appearances in 2 state finals , the golf team has won a state championship , so has the cross country team and the baseball team has won the region and been in the finals twice recently - the girls soccer team has been strong as has been track and field - 2700 kids and the football team should be much better than there typical 5-5 or 6-4 season that they seem to be every year . I work in the building - I know the dissension in the football program and have spoken to many talented student athletes who do not want to play football and Lalli and the morale of the program is a major reason

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: spoiledpeople ()
Date: January 07, 2016 08:45AM

What does LAX or other program success have to with anything? Westfield LAX is not that good and yet they are always good at football. Golf? Really? No school is always good in every sport every year no matter the size. How you think Westfield BB will fare next season without Scanlon and Francis? Suddenly then they will have a bad coach? Stop with it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Analytics ()
Date: January 07, 2016 10:04AM

Tops 7 HS populations went (56 and 31) bottom 7 went (16 and 54). little easier to win with big schools. Centreville just had a down year after several at the top.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: January 07, 2016 03:54PM

I highly doubt a team of kids who don't play football at Chantilly could annihilate the actual team. I doubt they have that much talent.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tilly ()
Date: January 07, 2016 04:45PM

Spoiled one - the point is simple -Chantilly has 2700 students , a great feeder youth program and have been very good in many sports .The football should be better than 5-5 every year . Class of 2015 had 20 -30 kids who walked away from football because of Lalli - I know because I saw it happening and spoke to there parents > I failed to mention that the wrestling team is ranked 7th in the DC AREA - The point is lots of those lax players , track athletes and wrestlers veered away from football because of the screwed up program - this all began when a nimrod said there just isn't talent at the school . Coaching does matter and Tilly needs to move on from Lalli - I know pointing out a golf championship has little to do with football but the other sports do -finally I disagree that the kids who walked away from football would anniliate the actual team but many would have contributed /been solid players and would have added needed depth and made any team better

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: January 10, 2016 04:43PM

Which school loses the most talent?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Verpanic ()
Date: January 12, 2016 11:20PM

Big Jim is coming..... Rebels

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RumorMill... ()
Date: January 13, 2016 07:32AM

Jim Patrick (former Mclean Coach) will be the new Fairfax Coach... Great snatch for Rebel Nation

Clarence Martin (former Lee Coach) is the lead candidate for Mount Vernon

Annandale Assistant coach ??? will land the Stuart job

And I have no clue who lands the Jefferson job. rumor is they have a long time assistant who will take over.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What about the red and blue ()
Date: January 13, 2016 09:22AM

Any word on the TC job? Matthie is out for sure but I haven't heard of any in house promotions or names outside the school floating around.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: January 13, 2016 10:21AM

RumorMill... Wrote:
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> Jim Patrick (former Mclean Coach) will be the new
> Fairfax Coach... Great snatch for Rebel Nation
>
> Clarence Martin (former Lee Coach) is the lead
> candidate for Mount Vernon
>
> Annandale Assistant coach ??? will land the Stuart
> job
>
> And I have no clue who lands the Jefferson job.
> rumor is they have a long time assistant who will
> take over.


I think you are referring to the Annandale DC. By the way, if this is the same individual, he also was a semi-finalist for the Fairfax Job. If Stuart can get him, he would be a great hire.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TitanPride ()
Date: January 13, 2016 10:22AM

I'm hearing that Martin (former Lee Coach and TC d coordinator) will take over at TC.

He may be in the running at Mount Vernon too. However, I think he would take the TC job before he would take MV.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: January 13, 2016 10:32AM

TitanPride Wrote:
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> I'm hearing that Martin (former Lee Coach and TC d
> coordinator) will take over at TC.
>
> He may be in the running at Mount Vernon too.
> However, I think he would take the TC job before
> he would take MV.


That would make sense. I think the TC job is more attractive than the Mt. Vernon job.

Here's how I would rank the open coaching positions, from best to worst:

1. Fairfax
2. TC
3. Mt. Vernon
4. Stuart
5. TJ.

Don't be surprised if the positions are filled in this order. I've heard that the official announcement from Fairfax will be coming this week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL realignment 2017 ()
Date: January 13, 2016 05:19PM

Looks like Madison may move out of the Liberty District and will join the Concorde. Never would've imagined that. Herndon will move to the Liberty. Conferences will be eliminated.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Vhsl nutz ()
Date: January 13, 2016 05:31PM

Madison has already petitioned to change that District switch...they do not like the idea of Going 0-5/1-4 in District play every Year..they become the New Herndon!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sucks for Madison ()
Date: January 13, 2016 05:41PM

They are guaranteed pretty much 4 loses every year in the district. Idk how to feel about this. I feel like South Lakes would be a better fit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: realignment ()
Date: January 13, 2016 08:24PM

Sucks for Madison Wrote:
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> They are guaranteed pretty much 4 loses every year
> in the district. Idk how to feel about this. I
> feel like South Lakes would be a better fit.

Why would South Lakes be a better fit for the Concorde than Madison? Madison would have a tougher time in the Concorde but they wouldn't be as bad as Herndon. Herndon's demographics are rapidly tilting towards soccer success but that's not the case w/madison. I've tended to think that Madison could do better with a change of coaching, they have enough talent to do well in Liberty but they always lose early in regional playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: January 13, 2016 10:22PM

I've seen how the VHSL proposes to realign the regions, but I haven't seen anything published regarding the alignment of the districts within the regions.

In 6A, Region #1 and Region #2 have a total of 20 schools (12 for Region 1 which is based in the Tidewater), and 8 in Region 2 which is based around Richmond. Regions 3 and 4, which are PWC, Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria have a total of 35 schools. I really don't understand how that's fair. If the four region champs in football are going to the state playoffs, that means that the Region 2 representative only has to beat out 7 other teams, but the region 3 champ has to beat out 16 other teams.

I get that southern PWC didn't want to be lumped in a region that extended all the way down to the Tidewater. Four regions would automatically ensure that doesn't happen. I would take the six southern PWC schools and place them in Region #2 with Richmond. That would create a region big enough to support two districts. One of those would be Richmond, and the other would be southern PWC. Region 3 and 4 would be reduced to 28 total schools, which can then be split between the two regions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde and Liberty ()
Date: January 13, 2016 10:31PM

TRP Wrote:
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> I've seen how the VHSL proposes to realign the
> regions, but I haven't seen anything published
> regarding the alignment of the districts within
> the regions.
>
> In 6A, Region #1 and Region #2 have a total of 20
> schools (12 for Region 1 which is based in the
> Tidewater), and 8 in Region 2 which is based
> around Richmond. Regions 3 and 4, which are PWC,
> Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria have a total of
> 35 schools. I really don't understand how that's
> fair. If the four region champs in football are
> going to the state playoffs, that means that the
> Region 2 representative only has to beat out 7
> other teams, but the region 3 champ has to beat
> out 16 other teams.
>
> I get that southern PWC didn't want to be lumped
> in a region that extended all the way down to the
> Tidewater. Four regions would automatically
> ensure that doesn't happen. I would take the six
> southern PWC schools and place them in Region #2
> with Richmond. That would create a region big
> enough to support two districts. One of those
> would be Richmond, and the other would be southern
> PWC. Region 3 and 4 would be reduced to 28 total
> schools, which can then be split between the two
> regions.

Districts to be revealed very soon. Washington post had the inside scoop on the Liberty and Concorde.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: realignment ()
Date: January 14, 2016 10:11AM

Concorde and Liberty Wrote:
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> TRP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've seen how the VHSL proposes to realign the
> > regions, but I haven't seen anything published
> > regarding the alignment of the districts within
> > the regions.
> >
> > In 6A, Region #1 and Region #2 have a total of
> 20
> > schools (12 for Region 1 which is based in the
> > Tidewater), and 8 in Region 2 which is based
> > around Richmond. Regions 3 and 4, which are
> PWC,
> > Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria have a total
> of
> > 35 schools. I really don't understand how
> that's
> > fair. If the four region champs in football
> are
> > going to the state playoffs, that means that
> the
> > Region 2 representative only has to beat out 7
> > other teams, but the region 3 champ has to beat
> > out 16 other teams.
> >
> > I get that southern PWC didn't want to be
> lumped
> > in a region that extended all the way down to
> the
> > Tidewater. Four regions would automatically
> > ensure that doesn't happen. I would take the
> six
> > southern PWC schools and place them in Region
> #2
> > with Richmond. That would create a region big
> > enough to support two districts. One of those
> > would be Richmond, and the other would be
> southern
> > PWC. Region 3 and 4 would be reduced to 28
> total
> > schools, which can then be split between the
> two
> > regions.
>
> Districts to be revealed very soon. Washington
> post had the inside scoop on the Liberty and
> Concorde.

Here's the article referred to above, https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/virginia-high-school-league-to-revert-to-former-district-and-region-format/2016/01/12/e2979cb0-b95b-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html

From the article,

"The VHSL will release the new district breakdown following Wednesday’s appeals meeting. The proposed districts will not entirely mirror their previous makeup. Madison is requesting to move from its newly assigned district with Concorde District/Conference 5 stalwarts Centreville, Chantilly, Oakton and Westfield to another within Class 6A Region 4 including Herndon, Langley, McLean, South Lakes, Washington-Lee and Yorktown. After Wednesday’s meeting, the proposed plan will then go to the executive committee for final approval in February."

So I guess Robinson would move to the Patriot, which kinda makes geographical sense having them play the likes of SoCo and LB but putting Madison in the Concorde just seems sort of random. Madison's enrollment is right around 2k, just big enough to be in D6 but not in the 2.4-2.6 range of most Concorde schools and they have no history/rivalry with Concorde schools other than Oakton. Fairfax would seem to make more sense as they were most recently moved from the Concorde to Liberty and they are more in line with Concorde schools in terms of geography and enrollment. I know Fairfax wanted out of the Concorde years ago for a lot of the same reasons Herndon wants out now. What a mess!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New ()
Date: January 14, 2016 12:30PM

realignment Wrote:
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> Concorde and Liberty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TRP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I've seen how the VHSL proposes to realign
> the
> > > regions, but I haven't seen anything
> published
> > > regarding the alignment of the districts
> within
> > > the regions.
> > >
> > > In 6A, Region #1 and Region #2 have a total
> of
> > 20
> > > schools (12 for Region 1 which is based in
> the
> > > Tidewater), and 8 in Region 2 which is based
> > > around Richmond. Regions 3 and 4, which are
> > PWC,
> > > Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria have a
> total
> > of
> > > 35 schools. I really don't understand how
> > that's
> > > fair. If the four region champs in football
> > are
> > > going to the state playoffs, that means that
> > the
> > > Region 2 representative only has to beat out
> 7
> > > other teams, but the region 3 champ has to
> beat
> > > out 16 other teams.
> > >
> > > I get that southern PWC didn't want to be
> > lumped
> > > in a region that extended all the way down to
> > the
> > > Tidewater. Four regions would automatically
> > > ensure that doesn't happen. I would take the
> > six
> > > southern PWC schools and place them in Region
> > #2
> > > with Richmond. That would create a region
> big
> > > enough to support two districts. One of
> those
> > > would be Richmond, and the other would be
> > southern
> > > PWC. Region 3 and 4 would be reduced to 28
> > total
> > > schools, which can then be split between the
> > two
> > > regions.
> >
> > Districts to be revealed very soon. Washington
> > post had the inside scoop on the Liberty and
> > Concorde.
>
> Here's the article referred to above,
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/
> virginia-high-school-league-to-revert-to-former-di
> strict-and-region-format/2016/01/12/e2979cb0-b95b-
> 11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html
>
> From the article,
>
> "The VHSL will release the new district breakdown
> following Wednesday’s appeals meeting. The
> proposed districts will not entirely mirror their
> previous makeup. Madison is requesting to move
> from its newly assigned district with Concorde
> District/Conference 5 stalwarts Centreville,
> Chantilly, Oakton and Westfield to another within
> Class 6A Region 4 including Herndon, Langley,
> McLean, South Lakes, Washington-Lee and Yorktown.
> After Wednesday’s meeting, the proposed plan
> will then go to the executive committee for final
> approval in February."
>
> So I guess Robinson would move to the Patriot,
> which kinda makes geographical sense having them
> play the likes of SoCo and LB but putting Madison
> in the Concorde just seems sort of random.
> Madison's enrollment is right around 2k, just big
> enough to be in D6 but not in the 2.4-2.6 range of
> most Concorde schools and they have no
> history/rivalry with Concorde schools other than
> Oakton. Fairfax would seem to make more sense as
> they were most recently moved from the Concorde to
> Liberty and they are more in line with Concorde
> schools in terms of geography and enrollment. I
> know Fairfax wanted out of the Concorde years ago
> for a lot of the same reasons Herndon wants out
> now. What a mess!

They need to make a power conference and let the big dogs fight each other all season, and put all the awful teams with each other. Madison in the Concorde is a joke and Fairfax in the Patriot is bad too.

Would love to see Robinson stay and add Soco, Braddock, or both to the mix. Get Herndon out because they're awful and let everyone else get after it!! Now that would be fun!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Offseason ()
Date: January 14, 2016 12:35PM

Interested in everyone's opinion on the off season, and how important it is to a high school football teams success. Are teams like WF, Robinson, Soco, and Braddock putting a ton of time into the off season, or are they flying by with good coaching and athletes?

What are that bad teams doing? Are they even touching the weight room? Is a team like West Springfield or Cville for example doing anything to replicate a WF, Robinson, Soco, or Braddock in the off season to compete with them in season?

Just interested in logical opinions...we all know everyone hates Cville, Soco, and Braddock so leave that BS out of this please!!??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:05PM

The good programs are lifting right now 3-4 times a week. Most of the good programs develop a few kids over the course of their time in the program and those players often start for the 1st time as Seniors. That is why some teams always seem to reload rather than rebuild.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ditto ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:13PM

^^^^The above statement is 100% correct. Every now and then those programs have a 5 star athlete to go along with a solid off season program which turns them into world beaters but by and large the work in the off season leads to consistent success in the fall.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:26PM

Madison to the Concorde (or whatever they will call that district) makes no sense. Madison's enrollment doesn't justify putting them in with schools that are in some case 1/3 larger than they are. Except for Oakton, they don't have any natural rivalries with those schools, and they will always schedule Oakton anyway.

The VHSL needs to go back to the drawing board with their region and district lineup for 6A. Here's what I would change

- put five southern PWC schools in District 2. That would be Hylton, Woodbridge, Forest Park, Freedom, and Gar-field. For the districts in this region, add Riverbend to this group for one district, then the Richmond area schools can be another. This gives 13 teams in this group. It wasn't necessary to move these five into District 3 or District 4; the main objection they had to the current lineup was traveling to Tidewater, but having four districts solves that problem; they only have to go to Richmond for Districts, which isn't too bad.

- Put the new PWC school, Colgan, in a district with the other five PWC schools. The biggest problem with old Conference 8 was that with five schools, it was too small and therefore, not fair to other Northern region schools some of whom played in 8 team conferences. Colgan partially solves this problem. They are located in PWC where they could easily fit with either the northern PWC schools or the southern ones. THeir enrollement will be taken primarily from Hylton (South) and Osborne Park (north).

- The remaining schools in Fairfax an Arlington would be divided into three districts. After the three districts are identified, one district is paired with northern PWC to form one Region, and the remaining two are paired with each other to form the other. Here is how I would form the districts among these schools:

-- Concord: Existing Concorde schools, minus Herndon(their wish is granted), but add Lake Braddock. That puts the six biggest and most competitive schools in one district -- LB, Robinson, Centreville, Westfield, Chantilly, Oakton.

-- Patriot: To Replace Lake Braddock, and get this group to 8, add either Hayfield or Fairfax. Hayfield makes geographic sense (it doesn't make geographic sense for them to be in Liberty). Fairfax makes some geographic sense, and it also pairs them with Woodson. The lineup would be: SoCo, Mt. Vernon, TC, WS, West PO, Annandale, Woodson and Fairfax/Hayfield.

-- Liberty: Herdon gets moved into Liberty, as they wish, which pairs them up with South Lakes. The resulting district is Herndon, South Lakes, Madison, McLean, Langley, Washington-Lee, Yorktown, and Fairfax/Hayfield.

Region 1 would have 12 schools, Region 2 would have 13, and Regions 3 and 4 would each have 14. It's not perfectly balanced, but it's not bad.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: How ()
Date: January 14, 2016 01:55PM

TRP Wrote:
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> Madison to the Concorde (or whatever they will
> call that district) makes no sense. Madison's
> enrollment doesn't justify putting them in with
> schools that are in some case 1/3 larger than they
> are. Except for Oakton, they don't have any
> natural rivalries with those schools, and they
> will always schedule Oakton anyway.
>
> The VHSL needs to go back to the drawing board
> with their region and district lineup for 6A.
> Here's what I would change
>
> - put five southern PWC schools in District 2.
> That would be Hylton, Woodbridge, Forest Park,
> Freedom, and Gar-field. For the districts in this
> region, add Riverbend to this group for one
> district, then the Richmond area schools can be
> another. This gives 13 teams in this group. It
> wasn't necessary to move these five into District
> 3 or District 4; the main objection they had to
> the current lineup was traveling to Tidewater, but
> having four districts solves that problem; they
> only have to go to Richmond for Districts, which
> isn't too bad.
>
> - Put the new PWC school, Colgan, in a district
> with the other five PWC schools. The biggest
> problem with old Conference 8 was that with five
> schools, it was too small and therefore, not fair
> to other Northern region schools some of whom
> played in 8 team conferences. Colgan partially
> solves this problem. They are located in PWC
> where they could easily fit with either the
> northern PWC schools or the southern ones. THeir
> enrollement will be taken primarily from Hylton
> (South) and Osborne Park (north).
>
> - The remaining schools in Fairfax an Arlington
> would be divided into three districts. After the
> three districts are identified, one district is
> paired with northern PWC to form one Region, and
> the remaining two are paired with each other to
> form the other. Here is how I would form the
> districts among these schools:
>
> -- Concord: Existing Concorde schools, minus
> Herndon(their wish is granted), but add Lake
> Braddock. That puts the six biggest and most
> competitive schools in one district -- LB,
> Robinson, Centreville, Westfield, Chantilly,
> Oakton.
>
> -- Patriot: To Replace Lake Braddock, and get
> this group to 8, add either Hayfield or Fairfax.
> Hayfield makes geographic sense (it doesn't make
> geographic sense for them to be in Liberty).
> Fairfax makes some geographic sense, and it also
> pairs them with Woodson. The lineup would be:
> SoCo, Mt. Vernon, TC, WS, West PO, Annandale,
> Woodson and Fairfax/Hayfield.
>
> -- Liberty: Herdon gets moved into Liberty, as
> they wish, which pairs them up with South Lakes.
> The resulting district is Herndon, South Lakes,
> Madison, McLean, Langley, Washington-Lee,
> Yorktown, and Fairfax/Hayfield.
>
> Region 1 would have 12 schools, Region 2 would
> have 13, and Regions 3 and 4 would each have 14.
> It's not perfectly balanced, but it's not bad.

How are you not considering Soco as a top competitive schools in football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 14, 2016 02:07PM

A couple of unresolved issues:

Albermale (Charlottesville), Henry (Roanoke), Massaponax (Fredricksburg), and Stafford may move up to 6A. I'm not sure who they would then bump, but all would probably go to that central region, Region 2.

I don't know why they are doing this now when the numbers aren't final. This doesn't take effect until 2017. Should be done this time next year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: January 14, 2016 02:49PM

>
> How are you not considering Soco as a top
> competitive schools in football?

They are, and they would fit the competitive profile (probably better than Oakton, by the way), but I also also looking to make the districts geographically continuous. LB borders on Robinsson, which is part of the reason I placed them in Concorde with Robinson, and the others.

I guess the other thing you could do is move both LB and SoCo to Concorde, move Oakton out of Concorde into Liberty (giving them a rivalry with Madison), and place both Fairfax and Hayfield in Patriot.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: January 14, 2016 03:41PM

How about making Concorde WF, CVile, Tilly, Robo, SOCO, LB, Oakton, & SL?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: graceland ()
Date: January 14, 2016 03:44PM

Ditto Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^^^^The above statement is 100% correct. Every now
> and then those programs have a 5 star athlete to
> go along with a solid off season program which
> turns them into world beaters but by and large the
> work in the off season leads to consistent success
> in the fall.

Titles are won when no one is in the stands.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: January 14, 2016 03:50PM

It's now official. Jim Patrick has been named as the new head football coach at Fairfax. He was introduced to returning players at a meeting that just concluded.

Welcome to Fairfax, Jim, we're glad to have you.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: At least try to make some sense ()
Date: January 14, 2016 05:55PM

Ball sport Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> when you can walk the Halls of a High School and
> put together a team of players (not playing
> Football) that would annihilate the team that you
> are putting on the field Friday Night(s), there is
> a major Problem, sure its easy enough for the
> Coach to Blame the Kids, in this instance, ITS the
> Coach! Chantilly has as much if not more talent
> than most schools in the Northern Region their
> short-coming is Coaching!


Wow....a few facts to back it up would be a good start. I think somebody's little boy is not playing enough and he or she is bitter.

Chantilly did have great skills players this year. Stats say they scored 2x last years team and were a lot more competitive in games they lost (by far). Was in the top 3 scoring teams of the last 15 years. Tied w/SB in the fourth on the road. BWoods. OT loss on the road. Lost to Robinson 2x in very good games. Last one with a few seconds left. Absolutely true that they got handled by Cent and WF.... they thumped the liberty darlings in their place in the playoffs.

They were far undersized on both lines. Good rushing teams really pushed them around. So Tilly parent, without naming names b/c they are kids, think about who would have been better receivers (2 sport players), running backs (Studs and one or two plays 2 sports) , QBs (2 sport player, linebackers (two two sport starters), TE (two sport) safety (two sport player), kicker (two sport player), corners (two sport players) that could have competed with them...just silly. Tilly had multiple all conf in these positions. Now about the lines...maybe one baseball player (quit to focus on baseball...had no coaching issues) could have started. Lax...not one junior or senior was good enough to start anywhere. Wrestling...I think the best wrestler over 170lbs played football. Basketball....at least 3 linemen play varsity or JV basketball. No other basketball players could have helped where they needed help, or are better than those out there. Golf? Nope. Soccer? Check..kicker..anyone else? at what position?


A few kids out there could have helped with depth....but maybe one starter is not playing and that's not b/c of coaching. Are they kids who are not playing any sports?

Get real man....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: January 14, 2016 07:11PM

Why should all the good football teams be in the same district and region? To me it makes sense to spread them out so the best teams advance.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Because ()
Date: January 15, 2016 12:42PM

Football Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why should all the good football teams be in the
> same district and region? To me it makes sense to
> spread them out so the best teams advance.

In my mind for two reasons: One being the level of play every Friday night, and how interesting and competitive these match ups would be. Second being the higher caliber teams would be able to compete more than once a year, making the playoffs more competitive and entertaining.

Spreading them out is really just denying the inevitable, that the good teams will beat the bad team 9 out of 10 times, so why not let them play each other.

Also need to get ride of 16 teams making the playoffs. The eight charity teams that make it are really a joke!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Because v2 ()
Date: January 15, 2016 01:14PM

Because Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why should all the good football teams be in
> the
> > same district and region? To me it makes sense
> to
> > spread them out so the best teams advance.
>
> In my mind for two reasons: One being the level
> of play every Friday night, and how interesting
> and competitive these match ups would be. Second
> being the higher caliber teams would be able to
> compete more than once a year, making the playoffs
> more competitive and entertaining.
>
> Spreading them out is really just denying the
> inevitable, that the good teams will beat the bad
> team 9 out of 10 times, so why not let them play
> each other.
>
> Also need to get ride of 16 teams making the
> playoffs. The eight charity teams that make it
> are really a joke!!
-----------------------
Whoa.

Good teams will beat "bad" most of the time, but your point about the lower 8 as "charity" and "joke" is dead wrong. When good play really good every week as the schedule set up this year with good ffx and good louden teams playing..this was week one of the playoffs.....I don't think madison (lost), robinson (won on fg with a few seconds left), South Lakes (21 points in last 7 minutes to win), or springfield (got blown out) would say their opponents were charity or a joke. In week 2, Robinson scored with a few seconds left to escape the 13 seed.

This is not an anomaly...happens every year...that's why the power point system, while flawed in some respects, is ok...it allows good to play good and not get screwed from advancing. Those were great games.

(13)Chantilly vs. (4)James!Madison 27-19
(12)Centreville vs (5) James!Robinson 21-24
(11)Oakton vs (6)South!Lakes 28-35
(10)Hayfield vs(7) Battlefield 21 -36
*(9)West!Potomac vs.(8) West!Springfield 40-19

I announce some of these games and can tell you that many of the "second 8" are quality teams deserve to play in the post season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: True...But ()
Date: January 15, 2016 01:22PM

Because v2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Because Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Football Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why should all the good football teams be in
> > the
> > > same district and region? To me it makes
> sense
> > to
> > > spread them out so the best teams advance.
> >
> > In my mind for two reasons: One being the
> level
> > of play every Friday night, and how interesting
> > and competitive these match ups would be.
> Second
> > being the higher caliber teams would be able to
> > compete more than once a year, making the
> playoffs
> > more competitive and entertaining.
> >
> > Spreading them out is really just denying the
> > inevitable, that the good teams will beat the
> bad
> > team 9 out of 10 times, so why not let them
> play
> > each other.
> >
> > Also need to get ride of 16 teams making the
> > playoffs. The eight charity teams that make it
> > are really a joke!!
> -----------------------
> Whoa.
>
> Good teams will beat "bad" most of the time, but
> your point about the lower 8 as "charity" and
> "joke" is dead wrong. When good play really good
> every week as the schedule set up this year with
> good ffx and good louden teams playing..this was
> week one of the playoffs.....I don't think madison
> (lost), robinson (won on fg with a few seconds
> left), South Lakes (21 points in last 7 minutes to
> win), or springfield (got blown out) would say
> their opponents were charity or a joke. In week 2,
> Robinson scored with a few seconds left to escape
> the 13 seed.
>
> This is not an anomaly...happens every
> year...that's why the power point system, while
> flawed in some respects, is ok...it allows good to
> play good and not get screwed from advancing.
> Those were great games.
>
> (13)Chantilly vs. (4)James!Madison 27-19
> (12)Centreville vs (5) James!Robinson 21-24
> (11)Oakton vs (6)South!Lakes 28-35
> (10)Hayfield vs(7) Battlefield 21 -36
> *(9)West!Potomac vs.(8) West!Springfield 40-19
>
> I announce some of these games and can tell you
> that many of the "second 8" are quality teams
> deserve to play in the post sea

Some aspects are true, but for the most part these teams are sneaking into a overpopulated playoff region. Take South County for example, they played two teams in the first round that they beat previously in the year in their district. It's just a little repetitive, and maybe charity case is the wrong way to discuss it, but it is what it is.

Who's to say their isn't a defeat that surprise everyone, but I would much rather see that from a top 8 team if you ask me. You're taking the competitiveness out of the game when you can make the playoffs at 4-6 or lower. Just no need for the everyone gets a chance approach that's been taken here.

There are some good teams left out, but sometimes that's what you get when you're simply not good enough...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RebelGuy ()
Date: January 15, 2016 01:35PM

So how long before Fairfax becomes relevant again?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hmmm12maybe ()
Date: January 15, 2016 02:08PM

True...But Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Because v2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Because Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Football Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why should all the good football teams be
> in
> > > the
> > > > same district and region? To me it makes
> > sense
> > > to
> > > > spread them out so the best teams advance.
> > >
> > > In my mind for two reasons: One being the
> > level
> > > of play every Friday night, and how
> interesting
> > > and competitive these match ups would be.
> > Second
> > > being the higher caliber teams would be able
> to
> > > compete more than once a year, making the
> > playoffs
> > > more competitive and entertaining.
> > >
> > > Spreading them out is really just denying the
> > > inevitable, that the good teams will beat the
> > bad
> > > team 9 out of 10 times, so why not let them
> > play
> > > each other.
> > >
> > > Also need to get ride of 16 teams making the
> > > playoffs. The eight charity teams that make
> it
> > > are really a joke!!
> > -----------------------
> > Whoa.
> >
> > Good teams will beat "bad" most of the time,
> but
> > your point about the lower 8 as "charity" and
> > "joke" is dead wrong. When good play really
> good
> > every week as the schedule set up this year
> with
> > good ffx and good louden teams playing..this
> was
> > week one of the playoffs.....I don't think
> madison
> > (lost), robinson (won on fg with a few seconds
> > left), South Lakes (21 points in last 7 minutes
> to
> > win), or springfield (got blown out) would say
> > their opponents were charity or a joke. In week
> 2,
> > Robinson scored with a few seconds left to
> escape
> > the 13 seed.
> >
> > This is not an anomaly...happens every
> > year...that's why the power point system, while
> > flawed in some respects, is ok...it allows good
> to
> > play good and not get screwed from advancing.
> > Those were great games.
> >
> > (13)Chantilly vs. (4)James!Madison 27-19
> > (12)Centreville vs (5) James!Robinson 21-24
> > (11)Oakton vs (6)South!Lakes 28-35
> > (10)Hayfield vs(7) Battlefield 21 -36
> > *(9)West!Potomac vs.(8) West!Springfield 40-19
> >
> > I announce some of these games and can tell you
> > that many of the "second 8" are quality teams
> > deserve to play in the post sea
>
> Some aspects are true, but for the most part these
> teams are sneaking into a overpopulated playoff
> region. Take South County for example, they
> played two teams in the first round that they beat
> previously in the year in their district. It's
> just a little repetitive, and maybe charity case
> is the wrong way to discuss it, but it is what it
> is.
>
> Who's to say their isn't a defeat that surprise
> everyone, but I would much rather see that from a
> top 8 team if you ask me. You're taking the
> competitiveness out of the game when you can make
> the playoffs at 4-6 or lower. Just no need for
> the everyone gets a chance approach that's been
> taken here.
>
> There are some good teams left out, but sometimes
> that's what you get when you're simply not good
> enough...

-----------

So you view the one extra game as dangerous or a waste of time? To who? Who that played in, performed at, or watched the above games do you think thought that? Or are you saying it too costly to play the extra game? The extra games produce incremental net revenue. Not sure I understand your objection. I think most think its fun...for the kids...


If the only goal is to find out who is number 1, and you think we can get that from viewing regular season, why not just take the top 2..or even top 4 in the state. Only two teams from outside the top 4 have made it to the state final (oakton in '12 and woodbridge in 07). And they didn't win. So maybe we need 2 or 4 teams in the playoffs?


I could see 12 teams with top 4 getting buys as viable, but your 9-12 as worthless or bad games is not borne out by the data unless we are just thinking about ultimate winner...then we don't even need anything past top 2 in region almost all the time. Pretty boring.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 15, 2016 02:14PM

If there are only 16 teams in a region, then 8 in playoffs is plenty. That keeps the season the same length too (4 regions of 8, vs. 2 regions of 16).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: January 15, 2016 03:42PM

> I could see 12 teams with top 4 getting buys as
> viable, but your 9-12 as worthless or bad games is
> not borne out by the data unless we are just
> thinking about ultimate winner...then we don't
> even need anything past top 2 in region almost all
> the time. Pretty boring.


byes - at the high school level - are bullshit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 15, 2016 03:50PM

Yes they are. With 7-9 teams in a District and 16-17 in a region, all sports except football will have an all-in District tournament with the top 4 teams going to the region. Football top 8 for the whole region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 15, 2016 03:52PM

What grinds my gears is PWC threw a royal FIT about being split, but now are still split, they just don't have to play Stafford and Fredericksburg schools (boohoo!).

Fairfax/Arlington should make up two regions, PWC and Stafford/Fredricksburg another, and everybody else in the fourth.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: January 17, 2016 12:02AM

TRP Wrote:
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> In 6A, Region #1 and Region #2 have a total of 20
> schools (12 for Region 1 which is based in the
> Tidewater), and 8 in Region 2 which is based
> around Richmond. Regions 3 and 4, which are PWC,
> Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria have a total of
> 35 schools. I really don't understand how that's
> fair. If the four region champs in football are
> going to the state playoffs, that means that the
> Region 2 representative only has to beat out 7
> other teams, but the region 3 champ has to beat
> out 16 other teams.

This is how it would look.
Attachments:
VHSL 6A.jpg

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: January 17, 2016 07:30PM

Before the 2017 season and the new 4 region setup, there's the 2016 season to be played in which, bold prediction, west Springfield will represent the northern region in its final year of existence.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Future is here ()
Date: January 17, 2016 08:13PM

Damn. Madison appeal unanimously rejected. Not good for football. Not good at all. At least the other former Liberty teams will have a crack a baseball district titles now.

The future districts according to the Washington Post:

"Madison requested to move from its newly assigned district in Wednesday’s meeting, but the committee voted 0-12 to reject the request. The committee asserted that Madison’s proposed move would “create a greater imbalance between the districts affected by the change” and that it “received minimal support from the respective districts schools.”

Herndon and Robinson, meanwhile, are slated to depart their Concorde brethren in 2017. Herndon will join traditional Liberty District teams in District 2, while Robinson will join traditional Patriot District teams in District 4.


Each of the six classifications breaks down into four regions, replacing the current North and South divisions. Here’s a look at how the districts break down in 6A Region 3 and 6A Region 4, the two regions comprising the biggest schools from Northern Virginia, as well as the rest of the schools in The Post’s coverage area.

6A Region 3

District 3: Annandale, Hayfield, Mount Vernon, T.C. Williams, West Potomac

District 4: Fairfax, Lake Braddock, Robinson, South County, West Springfield, Woodson

6A Region 4

District 1: Centreville, Chantilly, Madison, Oakton, Westfield

District 2: Herndon, Langley, McLean, South Lakes, Washington-Lee, Yorktown

5A North/West regions

District 5 will comprise Edison, Falls Church, Jefferson, Lee, Marshall, Stuart and Wakefield in the Class 5A North region. The Potomac District (currently District 14) will remain intact with Loudoun’s five largest schools — Briar Woods, Broad Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge and Tuscarora — as part of the 5A North region.

Potomac, which will play with fellow Prince William schools in the Cardinal District, is in the 5A West region alongside Stafford County schools."

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Date: January 17, 2016 08:14PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Competition ()
Date: January 17, 2016 09:20PM

West Springfield....may challenge the likes of SOCO and LB, they won't sniff the Concorde...until then keep the pipe fired up!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Little Brother Madison ()
Date: January 17, 2016 10:57PM

How sad that LITTLE BROTHER Madison has to play against big, bad Oakton Cougars!! No wonder they try petitioning out of a conference with actual competition, cause they Know that they will get shit on every year by their big brothers, the OAKTON Cougars. Oakton OWNS them in FOOTBALL, Oakton DESTROYED them last year in BASEBALL, and CRUSHED them in BASKETBALL. Madison=Oakton LITTLE BROTHER, NO DENYING, you cute little "war"hawks!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: It's about profit ()
Date: January 18, 2016 11:43AM

Doesn't make much sense. Wasn't Madison a charter member of the Liberty District back in 1995? At least the future District 2/Liberty preserves the other high school rivalries. And now South Lakes and Herndon can have an end of season rivalry game. These new districts are more about maximizing ticket sales for the VHSL after the terrible idea to switch to conferences.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: January 18, 2016 12:26PM

I'm sure that Oakton is the least of Madison's worries.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NotBrynRenner ()
Date: January 18, 2016 01:45PM

Not so fast Wrote:
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> Before the 2017 season and the new 4 region setup,
> there's the 2016 season to be played in which,
> bold prediction, west Springfield will represent
> the northern region in its final year of
> existence.

Other than Muskett and Robertson - who else does WS have returning? They did not exactly seem to be loaded to me.

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Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: January 18, 2016 02:02PM

Cookie Monster Wrote:
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> I'm sure that Oakton is the least of Madison's
> worries.


With where they got slotted, Oakton would be the least of Madison's worries. I'm sure, however, they'll be scheduled as a season-ending "rivalry" game, which will decide last place in that district.

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Posted by: WhyThe MadisonHate ()
Date: January 18, 2016 02:07PM

Its clear to me that Madison can compete with Oakton and Chantilly. I would also argue that this years Madison team would have beaten Centreville. I think Madison can compete with those teams. I bet right now, Madsion beats at least 2 of those teams next year.

The winner in all of this is South Lakesz Stone Brisge left the Liberty last year and now Madion and Hayfield will be leaving. I'd expect SL to run the conference for years to come.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: January 18, 2016 02:10PM

>
> 6A Region 3
>
> District 3: Annandale, Hayfield, Mount Vernon,
> T.C. Williams, West Potomac

West Potomac has to love this alignment. I really don't see any of these teams mounting a serious challenge to them in football

>
> District 4: Fairfax, Lake Braddock, Robinson,
> South County, West Springfield, Woodson

This is a real powerhouse district. I can see any of LB, Robo and SoCo winning this annually. WS might challenge occasionally. Sucks to be Fairfax or Woodson in this district.

>
> 6A Region 4
>
> District 1: Centreville, Chantilly, Madison,
> Oakton, Westfield

Westfield should cruise in this one. I'd say that Centreville would challenge them, but Centreville doesn't look to be strong in the Next few years. Oakton and Madison will bring up the rear.

>
> District 2: Herndon, Langley, McLean, South Lakes,
> Washington-Lee, Yorktown

South Lakes should be dominant in this district. Their toughest competition probably would be Langley

>
> 5A North/West regions
>
> District 5 will comprise Edison, Falls Church,
> Jefferson, Lee, Marshall, Stuart and Wakefield in
> the Class 5A North region. The Potomac District
> (currently District 14) will remain intact with
> Loudoun’s five largest schools — Briar Woods,
> Broad Run, Potomac Falls, Stone Bridge and
> Tuscarora — as part of the 5A North region.
>
> Potomac, which will play with fellow Prince
> William schools in the Cardinal District, is in
> the 5A West region alongside Stafford County
> schools."

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 19, 2016 10:20AM

I'm not really understanding the need for the districts. Half of your schedule becomes non-conference, when two of them together could fill the schedule. Also, how will Cardinal District (PWC) decide which teams move on to the Region in everything besides football, since they are split among two regions? How do regions where the districts don't match the region determine which teams to take?

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Posted by: GAU ()
Date: January 19, 2016 03:02PM

Wish I could just edit to add to my post but a few more thoughts:

Football playoffs is easy because they use a point system to seed teams.

I'm curious to see how other sports with brackets will work since there are essentially three district in each region, which makes bracketing difficult.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: BHFR ()
Date: January 19, 2016 03:37PM

Enough with this playoff talk...

Jim Patrick officially named Head coach at Fairfax.

What's the latest on TC, MV, Stuart, and TJ

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick Question ()
Date: January 19, 2016 04:19PM

How long until Centreville becomes dominant again? How were their freshmen teams last year and this year? I'd assume that Westfield will be the best in the district over the next 2-3 years, but what do you guys think?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: January 19, 2016 04:45PM

I don't foresee anything that would indicate Centreville will return to dominance anytime soon. They will remain a solid program but they have lost some key personnel for the second consecutive year. I expect them to be competitive against the best 6A North has to offer. But dominant? Nope.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wffan ()
Date: January 20, 2016 10:45AM

WF is losing a huge part of their success. Big time coaching change

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Interesting... ()
Date: January 20, 2016 10:56AM

Do you care to enlighten us?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: January 20, 2016 12:08PM

BHFR Wrote:
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> Enough with this playoff talk...
>
> Jim Patrick officially named Head coach at
> Fairfax.
>
> What's the latest on TC, MV, Stuart, and TJ

There was a rumor posted here that the Annandale DC was the lead candidate for the Stuart job. However, I've heard that he isn't pursuing that position.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ch-ch-changes ()
Date: January 20, 2016 12:16PM

Wffan Wrote:
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> WF is losing a huge part of their success. Big
> time coaching change


Wakefield or Westfield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: West Dogs ()
Date: January 20, 2016 12:59PM

It's Westfield, supposedly loosing their DC to small d-3 college.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: January 20, 2016 01:21PM

Wffan Wrote:
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> WF is losing a huge part of their success. Big
> time coaching change


West Dogs Wrote:
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> It's Westfield, supposedly loosing their DC to small d-3 college.


He's a good coach, the last couple years rumors floating about him leaving for various destinations. However, Westfield was successful long before he arrived and will be long after he's gone.

The coaches are a big part but the success of the program has been that it's run identical to how it was when the school opened and Verbanic was in charge. If you go back through the past 16 seasons, since its inception, the program has only had 4 seasons they failed to win 8 or more regular season games. The first two years the school was open and the last two Verbanic was there.

A few of the players from the final two years Verbanic coached had mentioned how his passion had seemed to fade. Most probably due in part to the AD position he so desperately wanted, and unfortunately did not receive, at Westfield.

In short, the program has been able to develop or bring in quality coaches when vacancies arise. All the while maintaining decent success, doubt Everett leaving will change that. leaving will

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wffan ()
Date: January 20, 2016 03:39PM

Everett is going to Bridgewater. He was the biggest part of their success in my opinion.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Smart ()
Date: January 20, 2016 03:46PM

Westfield 12-10 two seasons before Everett. 61-8 in the 5 years he was there. He was the difference, don't kid yourself. That's with no NFL players. None of the guys on this years team are going to play college football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: January 20, 2016 03:54PM

Westfield is 61-8 under Simmons, they went 12-10 the two seasons with Verbanic. Westfield's middle linebacker Jack Clancy is going to play D1 in college. Petrillo & Aiello (DPOY) could also play D1 but are interested in different sports. Westfield clearly has talent and it wasn't all Everett. Although he will be missed, Westfields coaching staff is not much different from their roster. They've always had the next man up kind of mentality.

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Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: January 20, 2016 04:26PM

Westfield is 61-8 under Simmons, they went 12-10 the two seasons with Verbanic. Westfield's middle linebacker Jack Clancy is going to play D1 in college. Petrillo & Aiello (DPOY) could also play D1 but are interested in different sports. Westfield clearly has talent and it wasn't all Everett. Although he will be missed, Westfields coaching staff is not much different from their roster. They've always had the next man up kind of mentality.

_______________________________________________________________________________

Don't forget Scanlon, definitely could play football in college but basketball is his sport of choice. Also, the original comment was "None of the guys on this years team are going to play college football". I'm pretty sure there are a couple that will play at the D2 or 3 level, Leo seems to have that potential.

As I stated previously, Westfield has proven that they can pretty much be considered a team to be in the mix year in and year out. Definitely the epitome of a next man up program, coach or player.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Novafballfan ()
Date: January 20, 2016 05:01PM

If you really look at centreville in the 21st century, aside from having an ungodly amount of talent in the class of 2015, they have been an average program at best. Unless lightning strikes twice I don't see them rising to prominence like that again anytime in the near future.

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Posted by: Agreed ()
Date: January 20, 2016 05:08PM

I doubt there will ever be a class as talented as Centreville's '15 class in NOVA. Westfield's '19 class seems to be the best that they've had in quite a while tho. Check them out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rumor mill ()
Date: January 20, 2016 11:53PM

Rumor is there are a lot of multisport guys at Westfield who may not play football next year due to Everett leaving. Will be interesting to see how things shake up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Simmons Sucks ()
Date: January 21, 2016 06:47AM

Simmons was in charge of the D when they went 12-10. If he so good, why didn't he stop the bleeding. What position is Scanlon playing in college? Too slow to play WR. Aiello too small. Petrillo also too slow. Face it Westfield is 6-4 next year. Back to there "that's what we do" pompous crap. Everett challenged them and coached on a different level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Follower ()
Date: January 21, 2016 07:15AM

Listen, Rob just took over DC duties in 2013. He certainly didn't make Westfield into what they are so that needs to stop. Westfield will be fine without him. Oh, the DC that Simmons has lined up has a state title to his name too. Westfield will be fine!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Play Ball ()
Date: January 21, 2016 08:21AM

Rumors are for the un-informed, Football is the Dominate Sport at Westfield, All the multi-sport kids will be right back on the Field Come August. Westfield Returns 7-8 kids on each side of the Ball that either started Last year or saw significant playing time...The DC job, if not filled in-House will be easily filled with Quality from the outside. Westfield's mediocre performance in Verbanics last two years was more Talent related than anything else. the Westfield Staff is top-notch and the Talent on-board the next few years is better than most...Your Region Favorites will be right where they need to be next November, getting ready to defend that 6A Title!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Poor Baby ()
Date: January 21, 2016 08:28AM

To the Cry-Baby Above aka "Simmons Sucks", the New England Patriots Roster is full of Super Bowl Champions that were told all their Life that they were To Slow, or To Small...so STFU! There are Major D-1 Programs begging, some of these to slow, to small guys to consider an offer...What do you know ? more than a Guy making $4-$6 million a year that Knows work ethic and Heart trumps Lazy Speed and Size!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Simmons Sucks ()
Date: January 21, 2016 08:55AM

Where are the Football offers. Good players get offers to persuade them to choose. No offers for the basketball, lacrosse and wrestling kids. Don't give me that they love their first sport crap. Again, they had Royster, Royal, and Glennonx2. Those guys played on Sunday. Everett has been running the show since he got there, regardless of his title. Who is coaching at Bridgewater next year? Not Simmons. Westfield does nothing in the off season, don't talk about work ethic.

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Posted by: Poor Baby ()
Date: January 21, 2016 09:13AM

the Offer(s) are there, some Parents/Athletes aren't nearly as pompous as you, needing to publicly Gloat to offset some other short comings in their Life..

Yes Bridgewater Carries the Title of College-D3, it might actually be a demotion in every aspect other than adding D-3 College to your resume!

Everitt definitely will help their losing ways, he might miss the 3-5 thousand additional fans in the stands he was accustomed to on Friday Night though!

A Good Leader, lets competent people around him Lead, that's what builds success! kudos to Simmons for recognizing Everitts talents and getting out of his way!

The Work Ethic that is brought forth in the off-season is an Individual effort, if you were even close to the program, you would know who those individuals were/are and the just Rewards they have garnered as a result...

Keep drowning your sorrows on the south side of rte. 29 we understand your dilemma!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldawgs ()
Date: January 21, 2016 09:34AM

@simmons sucks, you're telling me Kevin petrillo didn't play just as good if not better than Clancy? Petrillo could pursue football at the division one level no question. And Scanlon may be too slow to play receiver but that didn't stop Virginia tech, UVA and Jmu from offering him. As much as it kills you northern region football lovers some kids don't want to play football past 12th grade.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: outsiderlookingin ()
Date: January 21, 2016 09:47AM

As near as I can tell this is a non-controversy. Don't know why such a fuss. Coaches at Westfield got along great. Nothing lasts forever. People move on. To some it was mission accomplished. If Everett wants to give Bridgewater a shot that's great. More power to him. Simmons really promotes multi-sports so don't understand the multi-sport comment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: In the know... ()
Date: January 29, 2016 08:28PM

After Ken Kincaid turned them down, Stuart settled on ex-Lee coach, Clarence Martin. Enough said about that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: In the Know too... ()
Date: January 29, 2016 11:55PM

That's great news for Stuart! Martin is a great coach. He'll do well there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: January 31, 2016 07:54AM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bend it ()
Date: January 31, 2016 04:08PM

I'd take Bendorf as my DC at Westfield any day. Hopefully that's who they transition to. The bigger issue is that they have Simmons (a defensive guru) calling the plays on offense. Obviously it doesn't matter too much since he won a state championship doing it though!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: blitzcrankMain ()
Date: January 31, 2016 04:13PM

I wish they would just get rid of all the protective gear and turn football into a blood sport already. That way there'd be less life-debilitating concussions and more take-a-month-off broken limbs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Play Calling Was Fine ()
Date: February 01, 2016 08:02AM

I doubt play calling is an issue. Just look at the last 3 games of the season. Simmons just should've put Scanlon at WR earlier.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: February 01, 2016 09:45AM

Fairfax- Jim Patrick
Stuart-Clarence Martin
Jefferson- Long time assistant.

What the heck is going on with MV and TC? Are they even close to naming a head coach?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 2 states ()
Date: February 01, 2016 10:11AM

The D Simmons has lined up really has (2) Titles...

Him and Carrol Craig are one in the same. Not giving Simmons the amount of D respect that Craig had, but Craig certainly could be a Head Coach.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 2 rings ()
Date: February 01, 2016 10:28AM

Yep , Mathie won his first Ring in 1996 at Chantilly, and Got his Second in 2013 at Centreville...Maybe he will bring a few TC Speedsters with Him!

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Posted by: edit ()
Date: February 01, 2016 10:53AM

2 states Wrote:
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> The D Simmons has lined up really has (2)
> Titles...
>
> Him and Carrol Craig are one in the same. Not
> giving Simmons the amount of D respect that Craig
> had, but Craig certainly could be a Head
> Coach.....

Certainly could "not" I meant to say.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: In the know... ()
Date: February 01, 2016 11:02AM

I have been hearing rumors that Matthie will be Westfield's DC next year. If so, they won't miss a beat.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern region fan ()
Date: February 01, 2016 12:48PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Fairfax- Jim Patrick
> Stuart-Clarence Martin
> Jefferson- Long time assistant.
>
> What the heck is going on with MV and TC? Are they
> even close to naming a head coach?

I'm a bit surprised that Stuart got a coach before TCW and Mount Vernon. I didn't think the Stuart job would have much appeal. Although the Fairfax job was clearly the best job out of all the openings, I thought TCW and Mount Vernon would be more attractive openings than the Stuart opening. Congratulations to Stuart for getting their guy (and what seems to be a pretty good catch) so quickly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: February 01, 2016 01:47PM

I'd take Bendorf as my DC at Westfield any day. Hopefully that's who they transition to. The bigger issue is that they have Simmons (a defensive guru) calling the plays on offense. Obviously it doesn't matter too much since he won a state championship doing it though!

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Won't happen unless Bendorf steps down from his administrative position at Westfield. Then again, I assume you're referring to Pete, not his twin Mark?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: InsideSource ()
Date: February 01, 2016 07:42PM

Word through the grapevine is that a DC has already been selected at Westfield. Supposedly the young Line Coach was Everett's protégée and will take over the spot. Westfield usually hires Coordinators from within the program

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Outside source ()
Date: February 02, 2016 03:34PM

i thought Everett had a Muse and a Concubine....where in his contract did he get a protege....?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick question ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:31PM

Rumor is that school will be starting before Labor Day due to snow days, those this mean HS Football games will start a week earlier than usual??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: February 04, 2016 10:23AM

Quick question Wrote:
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> Rumor is that school will be starting before Labor
> Day due to snow days, those this mean HS Football
> games will start a week earlier than usual??

Whether that happens depends on the number of snow days. Fairfax County has had 7 this year. I think you need to have 10 in order to get permission to start before Labor Day.

Whatever the number is (I'm not sure if it's ten or some other number) whatever number of snow days there were in 2014-15 was one short of what it took to get the start of school moved up.

Schedules aren't all out yet, but I believe that 2016 opponents will be, for each team, the same as 2015, except home and away are reversed. I'm also pretty sure that most teams will have their first game Labor Day weekend, mostly because Labor Day this year is relatively late (September 5), and there aren't enough weekends to get a full schedule in by the deadline for the regular season to end.

In 2015, a few schools moved their season opener to Thursday, and I would look for some of that to happen this year as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: February 04, 2016 10:38AM

They needed 5 snow days, so school will most likely start before Labor Day.

The earliest they can play is the week of Aug. 22 and the first round of playoffs is Nov. 12. That would make Week 1 Sept. 1/2/3, ie the first week of school.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: February 06, 2016 09:04AM

More big news in 6A South - Morgan leaving Oscar Smith
http://pilotonline.com/sports/high-school/football/richard-morgan-to-leave-oscar-smith-for-job-at-georgia/article_922b014e-5d11-5806-90a6-56c0d725e189.html

Smith already has left Ocean Lakes
http://pilotonline.com/sports/high-school/football/ocean-lakes-chris-scott-resigns-takes-star-running-back-to/article_c2766129-733d-5a58-a533-79c52b503321.html

Will this level the playing field down there for a few years? Might leave things a little more competitive. Be interesting to see how the 757 does without the all-star teams if that happens.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly or Westfield ()
Date: February 06, 2016 11:57AM

Which school has been better at boys sports since the earlier 2000s? Specifically Basketball, Football, Baseball, and Soccer?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldogs ()
Date: February 07, 2016 01:06PM

That rivalry used to be big... But now Westfield just dominates football and basketball and chantilly dominates baseball and lacrosse. Never any surprises in those 4 sports

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wildcats ()
Date: February 07, 2016 01:09PM

I think centreville will return to relevancy in this coming football season. The quarterback will be a senior and Julian garret who was impressive will be back. I'm predicting 7-3 or 8-2

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kitty Kitty ()
Date: February 08, 2016 09:36AM

I'm predicting that the Bronco's will win the Superbowl..maybe 24-10

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Early Concorde Predictions ()
Date: February 08, 2016 09:00PM

1. Westfield- duhh
2. Robinson
3. C'Ville
4. Oakton
5. Tilly-they have absolutely no QB's
6. Herndon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: OldCoach ()
Date: February 09, 2016 08:10AM

Quick question Wrote:
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> Rumor is that school will be starting before Labor
> Day due to snow days, those this mean HS Football
> games will start a week earlier than usual??

No, there is NO connection between a school's actual start date and the VHSL schedule.

First practice, first game and playoff dates for all sports is set by VHSL on a 5 year basis. The current schedule goes through the 2017-18 season. This year the first football game can be no earlier than Aug 22nd.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: February 09, 2016 01:34PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: February 10, 2016 09:38AM

Heard on WTOP this morning that Fairfax County will be petitioning the state to allow an early start to the school year. However, this will be for the 2017-18 school year, and the report indicated that there are no plans to change the start of the 2016 school year, which is slated for Tuesday, September 6, 2016.

As someone else correctly indicated, there is no rule that requires school to have started before the first football game. Every Fairfax County School played the weekend prior to the start of school in the 2015 season. It was necessary to do that because with the late start of the school year, teams needed that weekend to ensure that they would get a 10 game schedule in before the VHSL-mandated end of the regular season and the start of playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tyrell Chan Jimbo ()
Date: February 15, 2016 02:07AM

damn football in VA sucks, those boys down in GA would put a whippin on you boys. You need more niggers and less chinks and spics. And your white boys are too small.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dELLx ()
Date: February 15, 2016 09:10AM

That's what the 757 said too. Look how that turned out. Centreville and Westfield won 2 of last 3.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: MV? TJ? ()
Date: February 22, 2016 08:45AM

has TJ and MV announced their hires yet??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Majonials ()
Date: February 22, 2016 10:21AM

TJ hired Bill Recon former Fairfax coach, and MV hired coach from Friendship Collegiate.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Old Thomas Jefferstoner ()
Date: February 22, 2016 07:56PM

Bill Rechin Played for TJ, Scott Norwood was on our team also. Bill's dad was a comic strip artist, Crock the caveman. Bill's nickname was "thick" because he wore coke bottle thick glasses. Good guy, Center was his position. Our coach was Weaver, he was fired and hired to coach at Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: just a fan ()
Date: February 23, 2016 09:08AM

with all the new hires this year what do ppl think we be the outcome of the new hires in their first year record wise potentially

MV - Friendship Collegiate AD
TJ - Bill Rechin
Jeb - Claren Martin
TC - James Longerbeam
FFX - Bill Patrick

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conference 6 guy ()
Date: February 23, 2016 11:55AM

just a fan Wrote:
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> with all the new hires this year what do ppl think
> we be the outcome of the new hires in their first
> year record wise potentially
>
> MV - Friendship Collegiate AD
> TJ - Bill Rechin
> Jeb - Claren Martin
> TC - James Longerbeam
> FFX - Bill Patrick

That's a good question. The answer to that question depends on whether you think that all that is needed for a particular team is a new coach, or whether there are issues with the program that can't be solved short term no matter who the coach is.

If I had to venture a guess, here's what I would have to say.

Mount Vernon and TCW: Both of those programs were 2-8 last year. MV got their wins against Stuart and TJ. TCW got their wins against TJ and Mount Vernon. Schedules for 2016 are the same as 2015, except home and away are reversed (though as an aside, Mount Vernon's website is showing Stone Bridge on their 2016 schedule, which was not on their 2015 schedule). For both of those two teams, I don't think the coach will make much of a difference, and that 2-8 for both is the best prediction. Their biggest problem is that they play in the Patriot District, and I really can't see either of these teams getting any wins against SoCo, LB, West Po, West Springfield, or Annandale. I think that even Woodson will beat both of them next season, though Woodson is the place where they would most likely get a conference win.

TJ was 0-10. I don't know much about the new coach, but I think it's really hard to build a program there. I'd be surprised if they got any wins in 2016.

Stuart was 1-9, with their lone win against TJ. I've heard good things about their new coach. Given the teams in their conference, I could see them getting a few more wins, possibly against Lee or Edison. Beating Marshall, Wakefield, or Falls Church might be a bit much for this season, though.

Fairfax was 1-9 in 2015. That's the program where I think the new coach will make the most difference. Fairfax didn't have 1-9 talent last year, and with the talent they did have, they should have gotten more than one win out of the schedule they had last season. That means that their problem last year was coaching. They solved that in Patrick (it's Jim Patrick, BTW), who was quite a "get" for them. Given their schedule, and the talent they have coming up from JV, I look for a dramatic increase in their win total in 2016.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: February 23, 2016 12:44PM

conference 6 guy Wrote:
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> just a fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > with all the new hires this year what do ppl
> think
> > we be the outcome of the new hires in their
> first
> > year record wise potentially
> >
> > MV - Friendship Collegiate AD
> > TJ - Bill Rechin
> > Jeb - Claren Martin
> > TC - James Longerbeam
> > FFX - Bill Patrick
>
Mount Vernon's website is showing Stone
> Bridge on their 2016 schedule, which was not on
> their 2015 schedule).


Where are you finding 2016 schedules?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conference 6 guy ()
Date: February 23, 2016 12:52PM

Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> conference 6 guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just a fan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > with all the new hires this year what do ppl
> > think
> > > we be the outcome of the new hires in their
> > first
> > > year record wise potentially
> > >
> > > MV - Friendship Collegiate AD
> > > TJ - Bill Rechin
> > > Jeb - Claren Martin
> > > TC - James Longerbeam
> > > FFX - Bill Patrick
> >
> Mount Vernon's website is showing Stone
> > Bridge on their 2016 schedule, which was not on
> > their 2015 schedule).
>
>
> Where are you finding 2016 schedules?

Some schools have already posted theirs. Here is TC's:

http://tcwilliamsathletics.org/main/team/id/43938

Fairfax also has posted theirs:

http://www.fairfaxhighsports.org/main/team/id/2293

All schedules for 2016 have been set because this is the second year of a home and home rotation. Some individual schools have decided to post theirs already.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TJ fault ()
Date: February 23, 2016 01:12PM

This is TJs fault, they aren't playing any D6 opponents, so they will be playing only 6 varsity games. So their D6 opponents had to scrabble and match games. Looks like Stonebridge filled those gaps where MV and TC played TJ.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: February 23, 2016 01:25PM

The VHSL has approved the change to four regions for each class, but has not yet finalized the alignment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan 2000 ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:25PM

Rumor floating around now is that Matthie is headed to Robinson. They are beginning to put together a solid staff there. They lost a lot of talent this off-season and I'm not sure their going to be able to replace them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conference 6 guy ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:27PM

TJ fault Wrote:
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> This is TJs fault, they aren't playing any D6
> opponents, so they will be playing only 6 varsity
> games. So their D6 opponents had to scrabble and
> match games. Looks like Stonebridge filled those
> gaps where MV and TC played TJ.


This is the first I've heard of this. If this is true (and it seems to be), this will affect scheduling for Annandale and Washington-Lee, both of whom were on TJ's schedule last year, for the first of a two year rotation. It will be interesting to see if this has ripples beyond these schools in 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:28PM

GAU Wrote:
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> The VHSL has approved the change to four regions
> for each class, but has not yet finalized the
> alignment.


So does this mean that Madison still has a chance to escape being lumped with Centreville and Westfield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pop bumper ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:45PM

tvWLY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:53PM

TRP Wrote:
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> GAU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The VHSL has approved the change to four
> regions
> > for each class, but has not yet finalized the
> > alignment.
>
>
> So does this mean that Madison still has a chance
> to escape being lumped with Centreville and
> Westfield?


Nope, that was already voted down on the basis that the schools in both districts were opposed. But really, it's only four games. Madison can go out and schedule another six games they want.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: February 23, 2016 02:53PM

GAU Wrote:
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> TRP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GAU Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The VHSL has approved the change to four
> > regions
> > > for each class, but has not yet finalized the
> > > alignment.
> >
> >
> > So does this mean that Madison still has a
> chance
> > to escape being lumped with Centreville and
> > Westfield?
>
>
> Nope, that was already voted down on the basis
> that the schools in both districts were opposed.
> But really, it's only four games. Madison can go
> out and schedule another six games they want.


Nope, that was already voted down on the basis that the schools in both districts were opposed. But really, it's only four games. Madison can go out and schedule another six games they want, and so long as they are 6A schools it won't hurt them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: February 23, 2016 03:02PM

I think an interesting suggestion for the Prince William Cardinal district since with 12 schools they can't play a full round robin would be to divide into two divisions of 6. Weeks 1-4 are open dates; Weeks 5-9 are division games; and then week 10 is a cross-over where 1 plays 1, 2 plays 2, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soco WR ()
Date: March 03, 2016 08:36AM

Word on Twitter is that Soco's Dillon Spalding got an offer from the University of Tennessee last night. Might lead to really big things for him!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yJt4p ()
Date: March 03, 2016 06:38PM

yJt4p

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Spalding ()
Date: March 03, 2016 07:04PM

Haven't seen him play but word is Spalding is the best WR in the area since Eddie Royal. Is it true?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: March 03, 2016 07:39PM

Haven't seen him play but word is Spalding is the best WR in the area since Eddie Royal. Is it true?

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No, not even close, don't get me wrong, Spalding is a good wide receiver, he's big and has good hands, runs well. But not even AJ Turner or AJ Alexander from last year could even be compared to Eddie Royal, and they have more explosiveness than Spalding.

The thing that made Royal such a threat is that he was faster and shiftier than anyone he played against. Punt or kick off returns he pretty much took most to the house. In pass coverage he'd pretty much just blow by the defense. He was also very hard to bring down, even when opponents keyed on him.

Spalding will do well the next couple years, but he's no Royal. Guys like that don't come along that often. Even when Royal got to college he made an immediate impact, the NFL as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mkHbM ()
Date: March 04, 2016 08:34AM

Seriously? Hi Skool Fussball?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Keep in mind ()
Date: March 04, 2016 08:38AM

Keep in mind Spalding is only a Sophomore. Let's wait two years until we decide who he's better than. In my opinion, he's the best in the area in a long time!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:11AM

Spalding isnt better thatn eric Kumah in my opinion

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:45AM

Keep in mind Spalding is only a Sophomore. Let's wait two years until we decide who he's better than. In my opinion, he's the best in the area in a long time!!

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I get it, you're a Soco student, player, or fan, but you're assessment is flawed. AJ Turner and AJ Alexander are two of the better players from this area recently, Spalding isn't anywhere near their class. Both of the AJ's were just as dangerous when they were sophomores as when they were seniors. Spalding had a bunch of receptions and yardage but he's not out running anyone to the end zone. Spalding's greatest attribute is his height, he has average speed and does not scare anyone in the open field.

Let's not forget about De'Mornay Pierson-El from West Potomac from a couple years ago. He went to Nebraska and made an immediate impact, still is. There are a bunch of other names like the RB, Nick Scott from Fairfax a couple years ago, and the RB from Robinson, Joe Smith.

Too many great players who have gone on to D1 programs recently to proclaim Spalding better than. Plus, most every one of the guys above played everywhere, offense, defense, and special teams. They were fast, powerful, elusive, just plain scary with the ball in their hands. Once again, Spalding is big and catches well, that's about it.

One last thing, all the players I mentioned above could take the game into their hands and carry their respective teams. If Spalding was in that classification then how do you explain his disappearance in the 6A North championship game!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 10:45AM

Sorry, Joe Wilson not Smith was the kid from Robinson, I apologize.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Point ()
Date: March 04, 2016 01:04PM

You make some valid points, but you are speaking about the most recent AJ's, Wilson's, and Pierson-El's not them as sophomores. Since most of those guys play different positions, the only one you can really compare him to is Alexander.

Most of the guys mentioned had to play more than one way, so not a totally valid point in my mind. Also, think your concept of "great player" is a little far fetched. Only one to do anything in college up to this point is De'Mornay if you ask me. Also, Spalding played TE and snapped for specific special teams scenarios as needed.

In my opinion (and that's really all the matters to me) you must be the parent of, or a student-athlete that was beat up by Spalding. Possibly a DB or the father or a Db that he tortured throughout a game. Come to think of it, you might be the dad (or actual kid) that he caught the one handed TD catch on Vs. Braddock.

Funny thing is, out of all those guys you mentioned, only one played in a region championship game to my knowledge, so again, not valid. Stop hating and get a hobby. It's a good thing for a kid and a program, sorry your kid sucks!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 01:38PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Point ()

Date: March 04, 2016 01:04PM


You make some valid points, but you are speaking about the most recent AJ's, Wilson's, and Pierson-El's not them as sophomores. Since most of those guys play different positions, the only one you can really compare him to is Alexander.

Most of the guys mentioned had to play more than one way, so not a totally valid point in my mind. Also, think your concept of "great player" is a little far fetched. Only one to do anything in college up to this point is De'Mornay if you ask me. Also, Spalding played TE and snapped for specific special teams scenarios as needed.

In my opinion (and that's really all the matters to me) you must be the parent of, or a student-athlete that was beat up by Spalding. Possibly a DB or the father or a Db that he tortured throughout a game. Come to think of it, you might be the dad (or actual kid) that he caught the one handed TD catch on Vs. Braddock.

Funny thing is, out of all those guys you mentioned, only one played in a region championship game to my knowledge, so again, not valid. Stop hating and get a hobby. It's a good thing for a kid and a program, sorry your kid sucks!!

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Sorry, none of my kids ever played DB or for LB, but both went to and played for D1 schools.

I liked and respected most of your responses right up until you got the typical "tough guy hide behind the keyboard and throw insults" attitude working.

My post was intended to point out that the young man had quite a ways to go before being anointed the "best player in the area in a long time".

I did notice how you completely skirted around the whole disappearing act in the 6A North championship though.

And if I had to surmise I would say you definitely are a SOCO student, player, parent bitter still from the results of this past season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Go Bruins ()
Date: March 04, 2016 01:50PM

So Spalding can't run away from DBs, huh? This video might refute that...

https://youtu.be/Ce3_e0m6OMU

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Funny thing... ()
Date: March 04, 2016 02:00PM

Funny thing is you're spending a decent amount of your time talking about an average player in your mind.

I'm sure your kids were really good, D1 material. Talk about being who you want behind a keyboard. My kids played D1 too, and one's in the NFL, see how that works!!

Spalding wasn't in a position to takeover the State game, so not sure what you want me to say to that.

You are definitely a Lake Braddock Fan hahaha!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 02:16PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Funny thing... ()

Date: March 04, 2016 02:00PM


Funny thing is you're spending a decent amount of your time talking about an average player in your mind.

I'm sure your kids were really good, D1 material. Talk about being who you want behind a keyboard. My kids played D1 too, and one's in the NFL, see how that works!!

Spalding wasn't in a position to takeover the State game, so not sure what you want me to say to that.

You are definitely a Lake Braddock Fan hahaha!

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Sorry, just replying to the original post about him being the best player in the area in a long time.

Then of course to all of the subsequent responses afterward.

Once again, not a LB fan, my kids went to Westfield, I'm sure you've heard of that school...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Now I understand!! ()
Date: March 04, 2016 02:29PM

Westfield, even worse!

I think Spalding did enough damage to them in the first game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Invisible ()
Date: March 04, 2016 03:26PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Now I understand!! ()

Date: March 04, 2016 02:29PM


Westfield, even worse!

I think Spalding did enough damage to them in the first game.

___________________________________________________________________________

Yeah, too bad not in the one that meant something!

Just like the rest of the team!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: March 04, 2016 03:39PM

Now I understand!! Wrote:
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> Westfield, even worse!
>
> I think Spalding did enough damage to them in the
> first game.


Yeah with Westfield missing their CB. Spalding would've been shut down just like he was in the NR Championship Game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bryan Talavera ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:01PM

Keep in mind Oaktons best defense tackle was injured Dylan Cardelli AKA the hulk, his replacement was a average JV player 5'10 230 #70

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bryan Talavera ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:03PM

who said Rowley was stepping down

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Huh?? ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:20PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Bryan Talavera ()

Date: March 04, 2016 09:01PM


Keep in mind Oaktons best defense tackle was injured Dylan Cardelli AKA the hulk, his replacement was a average JV player 5'10 230 #70

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Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Bryan Talavera ()

Date: March 04, 2016 09:03PM


who said Rowley was stepping down

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Did I miss something?

Like maybe the original conversation.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: March 04, 2016 09:34PM

Yeah, I mean what was that all about?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: March 05, 2016 10:15PM

So who has the best chance of winning states next year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldogs ()
Date: March 05, 2016 10:57PM

Football Wrote:
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> So who has the best chance of winning states next
> year?


Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Best School ()
Date: March 06, 2016 02:22PM

What's the best school for boys sports in Fairfax County? I know that Westfield is the best football school but what's the best school taking other sports into mind?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 9LCNL ()
Date: March 06, 2016 02:52PM

It really depends on what sport. And it varies by year. But overall I would say Robinson and Lake Braddock.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SC ()
Date: March 07, 2016 08:30AM

South County has a lot of returning talent. They will be a team to beat!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scholarship ()
Date: March 07, 2016 08:32AM

Helped get him a scholarship offer from an SEC school!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Guess so... ()
Date: March 07, 2016 08:33AM

Mr. Invisible Wrote:
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> Re: High School Football 2016
>
> Posted by: Now I understand!! ()
>
> Date: March 04, 2016 02:29PM
>
>
> Westfield, even worse!
>
> I think Spalding did enough damage to them in the
> first game.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _________________________
>
> Yeah, too bad not in the one that meant
> something!
>
> Just like the rest of the team!!

Helped get him a scholarship offer from an SEC school!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Guess so #2... ()
Date: March 07, 2016 08:34AM

Cookie Monster Wrote:
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> Now I understand!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield, even worse!
> >
> > I think Spalding did enough damage to them in
> the
> > first game.
>
>
> Yeah with Westfield missing their CB. Spalding
> would've been shut down just like he was in the NR
> Championship Game.

Helped get him a scholarship offer from an SEC school!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Heard it before ()
Date: March 07, 2016 08:44AM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: SC ()

Date: March 07, 2016 08:30AM


South County has a lot of returning talent. They will be a team to beat!
_______________________________________________________________________________

Boy, never heard that one before, go back and look at the last few years of high school football threads. Seems like SOCO has a school loaded with talent, too bad coaching beats talent at this level!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: OELLJHE ()
Date: March 07, 2016 01:56PM

Heard it before Wrote:
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> Re: High School Football 2016
>
> Posted by: SC ()
>
> Date: March 07, 2016 08:30AM
>
>
> South County has a lot of returning talent. They
> will be a team to beat!
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________________
>
> Boy, never heard that one before, go back and look
> at the last few years of high school football
> threads. Seems like SOCO has a school loaded with
> talent, too bad coaching beats talent at this
> level!

I would say defense beats talent more than HS coaching. No one in this area is stellar when it simply comes to coaching.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: last year of football? ()
Date: March 07, 2016 02:41PM

Since Storck and Smith screwed the budgetary pooch (which was already on its last legs) it seems FCPS is going to have to make major cuts. Since they don't play football in El Salvador, Korea, or Afghanistan, it seems like it may be in the crosshairs. So, enjoy it while you can.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: March 07, 2016 04:32PM

last year of football? Wrote:
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> Since Storck and Smith screwed the budgetary pooch
> (which was already on its last legs) it seems FCPS
> is going to have to make major cuts. Since they
> don't play football in El Salvador, Korea, or
> Afghanistan, it seems like it may be in the
> crosshairs. So, enjoy it while you can.


Want to bet?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: March 07, 2016 05:31PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()

Date: March 07, 2016 04:32PM


last year of football? Wrote:
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> Since Storck and Smith screwed the budgetary pooch
> (which was already on its last legs) it seems FCPS
> is going to have to make major cuts. Since they
> don't play football in El Salvador, Korea, or
> Afghanistan, it seems like it may be in the
> crosshairs. So, enjoy it while you can.


Want to bet?

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No, I'm sure he won't, he'll probably just keep posting the same nonsense on here about the subject. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the same person that starts this issue up on the football thread every year. Guess whomever it is doesn't realize that football is pretty much funded by boosters, donors, and the players families. If they ever had to fully support themselves I'm pretty sure most of the schools would be able to do just that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR football fan ()
Date: March 14, 2016 02:32PM

We had five new coaches in the region -- Fairfax, TJ, Stuart, Mt. Vernon, and TCW. Any word on how they are settling in to their new programs?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No mas helicopters ()
Date: March 14, 2016 02:58PM

nPYTe

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NorthTrumpstheSouth ()
Date: March 15, 2016 10:32PM

Spalding is what he is. A good route runner, decent size, with good hands. Tech apparently has offered him as well. Will probably move to TE in college.

But how about other top NR players. Unknowns and up comers win D-1 potential . Diamonds in the rough. Is Atkins a true SEC talent?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wideout ()
Date: March 16, 2016 12:20PM

Soco's Spalding has gotten his second offer from Virginia Tech. Haters...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Talent ()
Date: March 16, 2016 12:24PM

NorthTrumpstheSouth Wrote:
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> Spalding is what he is. A good route runner,
> decent size, with good hands. Tech apparently has
> offered him as well. Will probably move to TE in
> college.
>
> But how about other top NR players. Unknowns and
> up comers win D-1 potential . Diamonds in the
> rough. Is Atkins a true SEC talent?


He has talent, but not quality SEC talent. He couldn't play at Alabama.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Turf BURN ()
Date: March 16, 2016 12:34PM

Spalding is a talented enough receiver, I think his size at the HS level is formidable for most teams to cover, and his ability to get the Ball, high point and strong hands, wrestle away from defenders, gives him a big advantage. He will not surprise teams going forward and will be hard pressed to match this years #'s with all that being said, he's young and is one of the top talents in the region. Tech is not the Tech of 10-15 years ago and Tennessee is not the Tennessee of 20 years ago, still nice offers, Congratulations!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not Hating ()
Date: March 16, 2016 04:56PM

Wideout Wrote:
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> Soco's Spalding has gotten his second offer from
> Virginia Tech. Haters...

He got shutdown when Westfield was at full strength.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: j7Kt9 ()
Date: March 16, 2016 07:28PM

Not Hating Wrote:
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> Wideout Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Soco's Spalding has gotten his second offer
> from
> > Virginia Tech. Haters...
>
> He got shutdown when Westfield was at full
> strength.

That was against arguably the best defense in the state. He isn't going to face those kind of defenses most of the time and you can count on him putting up huge numbers the next two years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Question? ()
Date: March 16, 2016 09:33PM

If Spalding is Tennessee good what is scanlon? Alabama good? Spalding was a recipient of a trick play offense which often left him wide open down the field. Rarely did a shake a defender in a route and make a one on one play

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GoBruins ()
Date: March 16, 2016 09:46PM

Check the tape, bro. Spalding runs good routes and can get open. Even when he's covered he ran dudes over. Very good HS receiver for a sophomore with room to grow!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ConcordeWildBullRams ()
Date: March 16, 2016 10:18PM

Scanlon was player of the year for 6A. He could have very well played at Alabama if he pursued it fully. But remember he's a basketball guy. Much like Spakdinng is a lacrosse guy.


I think the guy to watch out for is Muskett. Decent speed and size and although he doesn't have quite the raw arm talent as top tier guys, everything comes out on time and is accurate.Might be an Elite 11 invitee.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scanlon ()
Date: March 17, 2016 09:57AM

Question? Wrote:
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> If Spalding is Tennessee good what is scanlon?
> Alabama good? Spalding was a recipient of a trick
> play offense which often left him wide open down
> the field. Rarely did a shake a defender in a
> route and make a one on one play

Scalon isn't a natural athlete. His lengthy and awkward as hell on a football field. I'd take Spalding 100 times over Scanlon. How many offers did Scanlon have again ha-ha??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dummies ()
Date: March 17, 2016 09:59AM

Question? Wrote:
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> If Spalding is Tennessee good what is scanlon?
> Alabama good? Spalding was a recipient of a trick
> play offense which often left him wide open down
> the field. Rarely did a shake a defender in a
> route and make a one on one play

Must of forgot about the TD catch the won Soco the game, pretty sure that was Spalding mossing two WF defenders.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: March 17, 2016 10:00AM

ConcordeWildBullRams Wrote:
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> Scanlon was player of the year for 6A. He could
> have very well played at Alabama if he pursued it
> fully. But remember he's a basketball guy. Much
> like Spakdinng is a lacrosse guy.
>
>
> I think the guy to watch out for is Muskett.
> Decent speed and size and although he doesn't have
> quite the raw arm talent as top tier guys,
> everything comes out on time and is accurate.Might
> be an Elite 11 invitee.

I believe Muskett is getting recruited. About three weeks ago, Cornell University had a huge Junior Day, and he was there. They had a few others there from NOVA. I saw a players from Oakton, Stone Bridge, and Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Decent ()
Date: March 17, 2016 10:02AM

ConcordeWildBullRams Wrote:
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> Scanlon was player of the year for 6A. He could
> have very well played at Alabama if he pursued it
> fully. But remember he's a basketball guy. Much
> like Spakdinng is a lacrosse guy.
>
>
> I think the guy to watch out for is Muskett.
> Decent speed and size and although he doesn't have
> quite the raw arm talent as top tier guys,
> everything comes out on time and is accurate.Might
> be an Elite 11 invitee.

Muskett is good, but he has nothing to work with. Put him at at Braddock or South County and he's an All-Met QB. Scanlon is not a good football player, average at best.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PLAYA PLAYA ()
Date: March 17, 2016 11:22AM

Average At Best Wins Both Football and Basketball Player of the Year 6A I can only imagine the awards he would have received if he was Spalding or Muskett Good!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: offers ()
Date: March 17, 2016 11:29AM

You mean the 15+ for basketball (cue the "this is a football thread" comment) or UVA and VT for football? Not bad considering the kid paid zero attention to football in the offseason and was still POY and won a state ring.

As for not being a "natural athlete," I'm sure the two teams from the South with "athletes" that just got cooked in the state basketball tourney would argue that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: realist1 ()
Date: March 17, 2016 12:15PM

offers Wrote:
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> You mean the 15+ for basketball (cue the "this is
> a football thread" comment) or UVA and VT for
> football? Not bad considering the kid paid zero
> attention to football in the offseason and was
> still POY and won a state ring.
>
> As for not being a "natural athlete," I'm sure the
> two teams from the South with "athletes" that just
> got cooked in the state basketball tourney would
> argue that.


C'mon, he's good but he's not a stud. He's going to Boston for Christsake - the Patriot League..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Reality TV ()
Date: March 17, 2016 12:53PM

When Scanlon Reaches our age and he's wasting his Corporate Days on some sorry ass Board reminiscing about the Glory Days... He can actually Claim to be a 2-sport State Player of the year with the Jewelry to back it up. un-like us idiots, dusting off our Participation trophy's for being first loser. additionally Boston - the Patriot League, that's $200K Mom and Dad can now Blow on Hookers and Blow if that's their Desire

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 987654321 ()
Date: March 17, 2016 11:42PM

Scanlon Wrote:
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> Scalon isn't a natural athlete.

Of all the dumb things I've read on this board - this has to rank as one of the dumbest. If a 6A STATE First Team Football player and a 6A STATE Basketball Player of the Year is not a natural athlete... well, then there is no such thing as a natural athlete.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4107601/highlights/206788387

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 123456789 ()
Date: March 18, 2016 10:11AM

I will admit, he looked like one of the Best Athletes on the Field against the Nationally Ranked Dematha Secondary and their 3 SEC DB Recruits, as well he looked like one of the Best Athletes against Centreville and Their 7 D-1 Recruits...all the Rest of the Film he looked no Better than Spalding, Running Through Blown Coverages and Missed assignments, but he's a D-1 Recruit so...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sums it up! ()
Date: March 18, 2016 01:27PM

123456789 Wrote:
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> I will admit, he looked like one of the Best
> Athletes on the Field against the Nationally
> Ranked Dematha Secondary and their 3 SEC DB
> Recruits, as well he looked like one of the Best
> Athletes against Centreville and Their 7 D-1
> Recruits...all the Rest of the Film he looked no
> Better than Spalding, Running Through Blown
> Coverages and Missed assignments, but he's a D-1
> Recruit so...

How many D-1 Football offers did he have? He was so good at football that he chose to go to Boston U for basketball. Give me a break, the kids is not that good of an athlete. Spalding is a Sophomore, and he is already a better athlete. In my (non-Westfield biased opinion!)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: None ()
Date: March 18, 2016 01:36PM

None would be the answer, not FBS anyway, there was only one D-1 player on the team if I'm not mistaken.

Pretty amazing when you consider the season they had.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: duhh ()
Date: March 18, 2016 01:39PM

Do you guys even know what an athlete is? Scanlon just used his height to his advantage. he never out ran, out muscled or out athleted anyone... hes just tall and can catch with a decent vertical which is really all you need to be a successful receiver in high school. Westfield won the State they had to give OPOY to someone on westfield... If Soco Won it would have been Ramsey and Allen for OPOY and DPOY If Oscar Smith won it would have been shonn mitchell OPOY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: duhh ()
Date: March 18, 2016 01:39PM

Do you guys even know what an athlete is? Scanlon just used his height to his advantage. he never out ran, out muscled or out athleted anyone... hes just tall and can catch with a decent vertical which is really all you need to be a successful receiver in high school. Westfield won the State they had to give OPOY to someone on westfield... If Soco Won it would have been Ramsey and Allen for OPOY and DPOY If Oscar Smith won it would have been shonn mitchell OPOY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: duhh ()
Date: March 18, 2016 01:39PM

Do you guys even know what an athlete is? Scanlon just used his height to his advantage. he never out ran, out muscled or out athleted anyone... hes just tall and can catch with a decent vertical which is really all you need to be a successful receiver in high school. Westfield won the State they had to give OPOY to someone on westfield... If Soco Won it would have been Ramsey and Allen for OPOY and DPOY If Oscar Smith won it would have been shonn mitchell OPOY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: DUHHH ()
Date: March 18, 2016 02:11PM

Yes SIr, I'm Glad to see Allen used his HEIGHT to land that D-1 Scholarship!
Where's Ramsey Headed?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ouch ()
Date: March 18, 2016 03:39PM

Yes SIr, I'm Glad to see Allen used his HEIGHT to land that D-1 Scholarship!
Where's Ramsey Headed?

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Ouch!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scanlon > Your Fav ()
Date: March 18, 2016 03:50PM

Scanlon is a better athlete than anyone that ever went to South County. And it's not even close.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: sourgrapereater ()
Date: March 18, 2016 04:07PM

duhh Wrote:
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> Do you guys even know what an athlete is? Scanlon
> just used his height to his advantage. he never
> out ran, out muscled or out athleted anyone...

Utter and complete nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAc6yHibHUs

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5-9" ()
Date: March 19, 2016 07:14PM

Definitely Agree, something doesn't measure up here!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: sourgrapereater ()
Date: March 19, 2016 07:51PM

5-9" Wrote:
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> Definitely Agree, something doesn't measure up
> here!

Brandon Delbridge - who Scanlon beat for that TD - is listed in the VHSL program as 6'0", 180. He is an All-757 First Team DB, VHSL 6A First Team DB, and made a ton of big plays for OS last season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: March 20, 2016 02:01PM

What did Scanlon do against Centreville when Charles Tutt covered him..nothing!! So take all that back about the 7 D-1 college players he abused. Get your facts correct!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sourgrapefruit ()
Date: March 20, 2016 02:01PM

Easy Sourgrapes, the 703 has nothing but respect for the 757, follow the thread, this smack is all about the scrubs from "South" 703 who don't measure up, baloney's Phoney's who need to win something other than a pre-season Poll!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oldfan ()
Date: March 20, 2016 02:03PM

Don't you have a girls lax game to coach or something.....?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What?? ()
Date: March 20, 2016 02:05PM

nufan Wrote:
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> What did Scanlon do against Centreville when
> Charles Tutt covered him..nothing!! So take all
> that back about the 7 D-1 college players he
> abused. Get your facts correct!!

Tutt only guarded him in the first half of the first matchup last year in which he had one catch on all of two targets... They underused him as a junior. Look at what he did to Peyton Scott from lake Braddock. He made a Marshall committ look like he had never played football before

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Re: 2016 High School Football Coaches
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: March 22, 2016 07:20PM

Corrections/Additions?

6A NORTH

Conference 5
Centreville (Chris Haddock)
Chantilly (Mike Lalli)
Herndon (Jeremiah Davis)
Oakton (Jason Rowley)
Robinson (Scott Vossler)
Westfield (Kyle Simmons)

Conference 6
Fairfax (Jim Patrick)
Hayfield (Eric Henderson)
Langley (John Howerton)
Madison (Lenny Schultz)
McLean (Shaun Blair)
South Lakes (Trey Taylor)
Washington-Lee (Josh Shapiro)
Yorktown (Bruce Hanson)

Conference 7
Annandale (Michael Scott)
Lake Braddock (Jim Poythress)
Mount Vernon
South County (Gerry Pannoni)
West Potomac (Jeremiah Ross)
West Springfield (Jason Eldredge)
T.C. Williams (James Longerbeam)
W.T. Woodson (Mike Dougherty)

Conference 8
Battlefield (Jared Van Acker)
Stonewall Jackson (Darryl Robinson)
Osbourn (Chris Samuels)
Osbourn Park (Dan Evans Jr)
Patriot (Brud Bicknell)

5A NORTH

Conference 13
Edison (Rodney Boyle)
Falls Church (Said Aziz)
Thomas Jefferson (Bill Rechin)
Lee (Eric Pilson)
Marshall (George Masten)
Stuart (Clarence Martin)
Wakefield (Wayne Hogwood)

Conference 14
Briar Woods (Charlie Pierce)
Broad Run (Matt Griffis)
Potomac Falls (Jason Allen)
Stone Bridge (Mickey Thompson)
Tuscarora (Mike Burnett)

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Re: 2016 High School Football Coaches
Posted by: Alex Res ()
Date: March 22, 2016 11:11PM

What the hell is wrong with Mount Vernon? It's Spring Break and their HC job has been open for MONTHS. What are they waiting for?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: InTheKnow... ()
Date: March 23, 2016 01:06PM

Mount Vernon hired their coach a while ago. His name is Monty Fitts I beleive. He was an assistant coach at Friendship Collegiate.

Potomac Falls is currently looking for a Head Coach.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: March 23, 2016 09:54PM

Top talent returning in the northern region.


Dillon Spalding 2018
WR - South county
6'2 220

BIG time playmaker. Decent speed with exceptional hands. Dictates coverages.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4123651/highlights/318229376



Lamont Atkins 2017
RB-Lake Braddock
6'0 205

Physically imposing all purpose back. A threat to score on every play.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3338981/highlights/279200376


Andrew Park 2017
TE- Lake Braddock
6'5 240

Long solid pass catcher.Tough to matchup against. Physical run blocker.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3330246/highlights/292933375


Kevin Petrillo
LB-Westfield
6'1 195

Alpha of the defense. Hard nosed playmaker who always seems to find the football.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2869589/kevin-petrillo


Brian Delaney 2017
K-Westfield
5'11 205

Good size with good leg. 50 +. Very accurate. 73% touchbacks

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2869612/highlights/319439489


Peter Musket 2017
QB-West Springfield
6'4 210

Quick accurate delivery . Knack for the big play. Natural leader.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3211977/highlights/294908458


Nick Bernacchi 2017
OL- Robinson
6'3 275

Dominant run blocker. Nasty till the whistle.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2975110/highlights/289076381


Pierce Banbury 2017
OL-Oakton
6'3' 275

Punishing down blocker. Thick and strong. Can block on the edge

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3827750/highlights/311989382


Jalen Jackson 2017
RB- Annandale
5'9 180

Very elusive all purpose back. Good hands. Makes you miss in space.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4079841/highlights/324676379

Donnie Warter
LB-Robinson
5'11 190

Physical run stopper. Plays with great discipline. Excellent motor.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2975096/highlights/280652417


Josh King
LB-Battlefiled
6'0 205

Violent striker. Tough to block. Great on the blitz


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3874750/highlights/308631472


Kris Thorton 2017
DB-Osbourne
5'9 175

Well rounded playmaker. Great in space. Dangerous return man


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5244951/highlights/303046375



David Kroll 2017
OL-South Lakes
6'5 315

Long and powerful. Creates great leverage. Decent feet.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3323501/highlights/319409473


Nolan Cockrill 2018
TE-Westfield
6'3 230

Athletic with good hands. Isn't done growing


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4098060/highlights/320176376


C.J. Johnson 2017
Ath- Osbourne Park
5'10 175

Good speed. Nose for the football

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5300844/highlights/316207379


Abe Mansaray
Ath- Lake Braddock
5'6 165

Good overall player. Excellent balance. Proven big play ability.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4138487/highlights/297849412

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: March 23, 2016 09:59PM

Kevin Petrillo 2017

Josh King 2018

Donnie Warter 2017

Abe Mansaray 2017

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: March 24, 2016 12:53AM

Top returning talent for 5A north


Trajan Anderson 2017
LB- Massapanox
6'3 230


Physically imposes his will on offenses. Plays with superb range and absolutely stones ball carriers. Big time player who looks college ready.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2797324/highlights/296528379


James Kennedy Jr 2017
DL-Brooke point
6'1 210

Completely changes an offensive game plan . Hard to block one on one. Violent edge rusher who plays with great body lean.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/6349488/highlights/322924392


Damone Drew 2017
RB- Brooke point
5'10 195


Simply electric with the ball in his hands. Elite breakaway speed with the ability to punish defenders. Defensive coordinators worst nightmare.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3031106/highlights/315518393


Devyn Ford 2019
RB- North stafford
5'11 175


Break away speed with big play ability. Long and lean. Going to be a big time player


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4362088/highlights/295114385


M.J. Hampton 2017
Ath-Brooke point
6'1 190

Can flat out play football. Craves contact and punishes opposing players. Good speed. Comes out of his shoes and levels players.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3031220/highlights/306365384


Demetrius Hembry 2017
Ath- Broad run
5'10 190

Versatile playmaker who can produce wherever you line him up. SS/hybrid type player on defense and great slasher on offense.




http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4508619/highlights/298048376



Ahmed Tweedy 2017
QB- Mountain view
5'11 175


Dual threat QB who can make the defense pay with his arm or legs. Nice high release with uncanny accuracy. Puts his team in position to win.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3013777/highlights/312560384



Kahwon Davis 2017
DL- Massapanox
6'1 235

Great get off. Good rip move with a great motor. Very disruptive as the 0 in odd fronts.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3526352/highlights/308615393



Trey Watkins 2017
Ath- Massapanox
6'0 200

Good size and strongly built. Great leg drive and tough to bring down. Quite a task to block on the perimeter


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2797321/highlights/293856376



Jeremy Sampson 2017
Ath-Tuscarora
5'11 175

Smart instinctive player. Nose for the football and for making plays


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3717626/highlights/312759382



Dohnvayn Jefferson 2017
Ath- Stone bridge
5'10 170

Good all around player. Tough with decent ball skills.


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4242137/highlights/301347387


Daniel Renaud 2017
DL- Stone Bridge
5'10 235

Solid interior lineman. Uses hands well with a good bull rush

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4011058/highlights/328320450



Maurice Jones 2017
TE- Brooke point
6'3 230


Good size with good speed. Soft hands


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5287080/highlights/314761393



Joshua Breece 2017
RB- Stone bridge
5'7 165

Gamer. Can do a little bit of everything


http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4288367/highlights/320304376

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: March 24, 2016 11:36AM

Great list Fondue. Who should be on your list that isn’t? I think Jameel Siler 2017 (QB/DB, Centreville) and Julian Garrett 2017 (RB, Centreville) will continue to show improvement and have great fall 2016 seasons. Centreville football will be back strong this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: March 24, 2016 01:32PM

Yes, fondue, nice list.

Kroll is a beast. Possibly the best O lineman in Conference 6

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: March 24, 2016 04:10PM

A couple of additions for 6a north . My apologies.

Julian Garret
RB-Centreviile
5'9 205


Bruising back with ability to bounce outside when necessary. Great pad level with good balance makes him tough to bring down.



http://www.hudl.com/athlete/6326428/highlights/295963398




Brailyn Franklin
Ath- Battlefield
6'3 205


Explosive athlete who has lined up everywhere. Seems to be most disruptive as 0 in odd/bear front as he has a great first step. Tough assignment wherever he's lined up.



http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3904472/highlights/313488500






Although Siler is a solid quality player I don't think he's a lock for all region next year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: March 25, 2016 12:46AM

Locally, 5A

Adrian Collins
Ath- Falls Church
5'11 180

http://www.hudl.com/v/PJAUH

Already has several D1-AA offers

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: March 25, 2016 03:33PM

Over hyped kid, completely failed against a weak 6A team herndon, and a mediocre Oakton

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nova Fan ()
Date: March 26, 2016 02:33PM

Just moved my family out to Haymarket last year. The Fanklin kid is legitimate .He already has a couple of FBS offers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton Fan ()
Date: March 27, 2016 01:48PM

Pierce Banbury the Oakton OL on the list above just recieved an offer from Navy. Per his Twitter page.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: N/A ()
Date: March 27, 2016 03:47PM

That Banbury kid is legit, hands down the best offensive linemen in this area

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: N/A ()
Date: March 27, 2016 04:05PM

He has received interest from Dartmouth, Boston College, Purdue and Wake Forest plus Navy, Kid is truly a beast

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dhjiteshkoyt ()
Date: March 27, 2016 08:49PM

Rodrigo Cardova from Westfield is better. Best offensive lineman in the state.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly 12 ()
Date: March 27, 2016 09:13PM

Dhjiteshkoyt Wrote:
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> Rodrigo Cardova from Westfield is better. Best
> offensive lineman in the state.

From experience Banbury is the best

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly 13 ()
Date: March 27, 2016 09:54PM

So the 12th Man, means you don't make it on the Field...so your experience comes from...?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RobinsonIsBackBaby ()
Date: March 27, 2016 10:23PM

No way did you even look at the tape ? Bernacchi is putting guys on their back for 4 mins straight. He's relentless.Navy offered him as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: March 27, 2016 10:33PM

RobinsonIsBackBaby Wrote:
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> No way did you even look at the tape ? Bernacchi
> is putting guys on their back for 4 mins straight.
> He's relentless.Navy offered him as well.


Honestly that Robinson kid and Oakton kid are both similar in height and weight and both have similar highlights

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ConcordSux ()
Date: March 27, 2016 10:47PM

Yea cept oakton can't throw worth dick and Robinson doesn't even bother to try cause they know they suck at it. Can either one of them pass set against a quality rush ?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What? ()
Date: March 28, 2016 09:39AM

Rodrigo Cardova from Westfield is better. Best offensive lineman in the state.

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If that were true he'd have multiple offers at this point, so who are they from?

Let's face it, most any class of 2017 football player with legitimate FBS or FCS talent already holds offers at this stage. The tape of their respective junior seasons are what catches the eye of recruiters.

Most of these kids have already heard from schools, the very talented ones have already received offers. It's such a cutthroat process that these programs need to stay ahead of the game. Especially at the FBS level they are always one year ahead in recruiting come springtime, of course there are exceptions.

There are some kids by virtue of the summer camp circuit that will gain some attention and offers but most of the FBS programs have their eyes towards 2018 kids now. If any player is considered "the best in the state" at his position he would certainly hold multiple offers from the FBS powers at this stage.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Suxxxx ()
Date: March 28, 2016 10:21AM

Clearly a So Co Player, the use of the word Suck and Dick in the same comment...self explanatory

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: March 28, 2016 10:22AM

What? Wrote:
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> Rodrigo Cardova from Westfield is better. Best
> offensive lineman in the state.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
>
> If that were true he'd have multiple offers at
> this point, so who are they from?
>
> Let's face it, most any class of 2017 football
> player with legitimate FBS or FCS talent already
> holds offers at this stage. The tape of their
> respective junior seasons are what catches the eye
> of recruiters.
>
> Most of these kids have already heard from
> schools, the very talented ones have already
> received offers. It's such a cutthroat process
> that these programs need to stay ahead of the
> game. Especially at the FBS level they are always
> one year ahead in recruiting come springtime, of
> course there are exceptions.
>
> There are some kids by virtue of the summer camp
> circuit that will gain some attention and offers
> but most of the FBS programs have their eyes
> towards 2018 kids now. If any player is considered
> "the best in the state" at his position he would
> certainly hold multiple offers from the FBS powers
> at this stage.

I think it varies by position. Sometimes, particularly at the lineman position, recruiting lags a bit, because kids are still growing into the size. Other times, they are recruited based on their size at the moment, more so than what they actually do on the field.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VeTkt ()
Date: March 28, 2016 11:01AM

Cordova is Class of 2016 anyway.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NOVA fan ()
Date: March 30, 2016 12:26PM

Bernacchi was not offered by Navy. His only offer is Marshall. Bernacchi's tape is all down blocks and cuts. Due to the nature of the offense he doesn't show a ton of skill. He is physical and shows good potential. Robinson cuts too much though. They also don't pass like someone else brought up. I would want to see him pass set if I were to offer.


Oakton has both Banbury and Forrester. Forrester has interest from all Ivy schools (Harvard and Cornell have firm "offers".

Lots of quality lineman this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A ()
Date: March 30, 2016 05:06PM

NOVA fan Wrote:
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> Bernacchi was not offered by Navy. His only offer
> is Marshall. Bernacchi's tape is all down blocks
> and cuts. Due to the nature of the offense he
> doesn't show a ton of skill. He is physical and
> shows good potential. Robinson cuts too much
> though. They also don't pass like someone else
> brought up. I would want to see him pass set if I
> were to offer.
>
>
> Oakton has both Banbury and Forrester. Forrester
> has interest from all Ivy schools (Harvard and
> Cornell have firm "offers".
>
> Lots of quality lineman this year.

Oakton had lots of quality linemen but there losing all of them this year, only good ones left are Banbury, Forester

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kewal Paudel 703 624 1878 ()
Date: March 30, 2016 05:32PM

This area sucks at football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton Fan ()
Date: March 30, 2016 07:40PM

Oakton returns 3 starting olinemen. However - don't know who will play QB. It looks like another 5-5 season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: March 30, 2016 08:18PM

Oakton Fan Wrote:
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> Oakton returns 3 starting olinemen. However -
> don't know who will play QB. It looks like another
> 5-5 season.


I doubt Oakton will be elite again until they get the Fox Mill kids back in the future. The redistricting really hurt them. Westfield was also hurt initially by the South Lakes redistricting but they have recovered since. Could only imagine how good they would be if they still had those Floris kids.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A ()
Date: March 30, 2016 08:30PM

Oakton has a couple gaurentied wins like Madison, Falls Church, Herndon, and possibly Chantilly because there losing alot in offense so yeah most likely another 5-5 season, I betting Westfield goes all the way again

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fball fan ()
Date: March 30, 2016 10:35PM

Just finished watching both Banbury and Bernacchi's film. Both are pretty good. Banbury looks more athletic. Bernacchi looks more physical/relentless. You could argue that Banbury has more upside since he's the better athlete, but the nastiness Bernacchi plays with is rare. Robinson's entire Oline looked very agressive. Lots of Olinemen drive blocking people 15 yards downfield.
Did some research and both players have been offered by Navy. It would be pretty cool if they got the chance to play together at Navy. Good luck to both.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: March 31, 2016 10:08AM

sourgrapereater Wrote:
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> duhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you guys even know what an athlete is?
> Scanlon
> > just used his height to his advantage. he never
> > out ran, out muscled or out athleted anyone...
>
> Utter and complete nonsense.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAc6yHibHUs

Looks like he used his height on that one!! He not a good athlete, deal with it!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Get off then ()
Date: March 31, 2016 10:10AM

Kewal Paudel 703 624 1878 Wrote:
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> This area sucks at football.


Get off the thread then!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not so fast! ()
Date: March 31, 2016 10:14AM

6A Wrote:
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> NOVA fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bernacchi was not offered by Navy. His only
> offer
> > is Marshall. Bernacchi's tape is all down
> blocks
> > and cuts. Due to the nature of the offense he
> > doesn't show a ton of skill. He is physical
> and
> > shows good potential. Robinson cuts too much
> > though. They also don't pass like someone else
> > brought up. I would want to see him pass set if
> I
> > were to offer.
> >
> >
> > Oakton has both Banbury and Forrester.
> Forrester
> > has interest from all Ivy schools (Harvard and
> > Cornell have firm "offers".
> >
> > Lots of quality lineman this year.
>
> Oakton had lots of quality linemen but there
> losing all of them this year, only good ones left
> are Banbury, Forester

Not sure what your definition of "quality Olineman" really is. Size is the key to these guys being recruited. The Robinson OL couldn't even move Soco's smaller DL around, so not sure why they are considered good either. A quality OLineman can fight every single play, while being quick and aggressive. Don't let oversized sloths confuse you when it comes to a "quality."

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The best ()
Date: March 31, 2016 10:55AM

Oakton has always had size. Always been huge. Smart too( good coaching helps - Rowley). Every year it seems they have an O line that prob averages 250. When they're really good is when they have the skill guys to match. (Payne , Grimm , Watts , Coyer). That's when they make state runs. But like it's been stated redistricting hurt there neighborhoods. Rich get richer

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the worst ()
Date: March 31, 2016 11:27AM

The Rich need to get recruiting...and quit bitching...drop that lame re-distracting excuse..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: clueless ()
Date: March 31, 2016 11:50AM

Excuse ? It's not an excuse. It's a legitimate reason. The whole thing is bull shit. Booster parents don't want there kids going to school with certain demographics. Redistricting has just killed some programs. That's a fact.

Look at Lee. Lee used to be somewhat competitive. Now they're just garbage. In every sport. Lost all their kids to West Springfield and South County. There are literally kids leaving Lee to take "AP classes " at SoCo just so they don't have to be on a crappy team.


Same thing with hayfield. Used to be a very competitive school. South county opening destroyed them.


Look at what Soco has become.Dominant in multiple sports.


And look at Annandale. Annandale used to compete for championships for crying out loud. Every year in the playoffs. All the neighborhoods that produced kids go to Lake Braddock or Woodson now. Heck they should probably be in Div 5 cause Hispanics, Arabs, and Asians don't necessarily play football and that's half their population. Although Annandale has had a little resurgence in football the past two years

Look at Lake Braddocks success in recent years.



That's another tell tale sign. Look at a schools entire athletic program. If it sucks overall, there's a good chance they've been hurt by boundary lines. It's kinda messed up if you really examine it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: March 31, 2016 12:19PM

clueless Wrote:
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> Excuse ? It's not an excuse. It's a legitimate
> reason. The whole thing is bull shit. Booster
> parents don't want there kids going to school with
> certain demographics. Redistricting has just
> killed some programs. That's a fact.
>
> Look at Lee. Lee used to be somewhat competitive.
> Now they're just garbage. In every sport. Lost all
> their kids to West Springfield and South County.
> There are literally kids leaving Lee to take "AP
> classes " at SoCo just so they don't have to be on
> a crappy team.
>
>
> Same thing with hayfield. Used to be a very
> competitive school. South county opening destroyed
> them.
>
>
> Look at what Soco has become.Dominant in multiple
> sports.
>
>
> And look at Annandale. Annandale used to compete
> for championships for crying out loud. Every year
> in the playoffs. All the neighborhoods that
> produced kids go to Lake Braddock or Woodson now.
> Heck they should probably be in Div 5 cause
> Hispanics, Arabs, and Asians don't necessarily
> play football and that's half their population.
> Although Annandale has had a little resurgence in
> football the past two years
>
> Look at Lake Braddocks success in recent years.
>
>
>
> That's another tell tale sign. Look at a schools
> entire athletic program. If it sucks overall,
> there's a good chance they've been hurt by
> boundary lines. It's kinda messed up if you really
> examine it.

The Annandale/Woodson example cuts against your claim, at least when it comes to football. Annandale beats Woodson fairly consistently in football. I saw Annandale play Centreville last year, and they gave Centreville all kinds of fits. They were also fairly competitive v. So Co in the playoffs, at least through the first three quarters. Their coaching staff does wonders with a limited talent pool

Woodson is good at hoops, but I'm not sold on them when it comes to football They made last year's playoffs thanks to a gift-wrapped win against West Springfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: towel ()
Date: March 31, 2016 12:46PM

hahahahaha, he said ARABS!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Is Band Necessary? ()
Date: March 31, 2016 12:54PM

If there were no more marching band, would football survive? It seems beset by more than few controversies, such as Einuis and the McLean fee issue.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Let me rephrase this for you ()
Date: March 31, 2016 01:07PM

Is Band Necessary? Wrote:
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> If there were no more marching band, would
> football survive? It seems beset by more than few
> controversies, such as Einuis and the McLean fee
> issue.




If there were no football, would ANY sports program survive ? Football gate sales and sponsorships probably account for 75% of any schools booster revenue. An elite basketball school MIGHT be able to compete.

Not to mention the raw manpower they have for fundraisers. Just wait till August when entire teams are knocking door to door or begging for money on the street like homeless people.


GTFO here with that band nonsense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: don't knock on my door ()
Date: March 31, 2016 01:16PM

When those entitled high school kids come to my door, I tell them to get lost.

This is not band nonsense. Band has serious problems and is a waste of money.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 2 clueless ()
Date: March 31, 2016 02:09PM

NR Fan Wrote:
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> The Annandale/Woodson example cuts against your
> claim, at least when it comes to football.
> Annandale beats Woodson fairly consistently in
> football. I saw Annandale play Centreville last
> year, and they gave Centreville all kinds of fits.
> They were also fairly competitive v. So Co in the
> playoffs, at least through the first three
> quarters. Their coaching staff does wonders with
> a limited talent pool
>
> Woodson is good at hoops, but I'm not sold on them
> when it comes to football They made last year's
> playoffs thanks to a gift-wrapped win against West
> Springfield.



Well yea there is going to be some outliers. Annandale is a football school. Always has been always will be. They've had like 5 head coaches since the school opened. They struggled a little when Adams retired but it seems Mike Scott now has them back on track. Go to a game. They still polish their helmets, wear black cleats, and they play college fight songs for warm ups instead of that rap crap. It's rich in tradition.


Same thing with Lee in softball. For some reason they always seem to be competitive. Even with much larger schools. In fact they just beat Westfield recently. They have kids move on to play at the next level. It's the culture of the program that has been created.


Same thing can be said for Wakefield in Basketball.


But look at the overall sports program of all of those schools and what do you notice? You can throw in Stuart and Falls Church as well. It's crappy. Simply put. It comes down to the demographics that the redistricting has done. Parents that aren't involved because of working late or unusual hours and kids that don't play sports until they get to high school. Caucasian and African American kids beat Middle Eastern, Asian, and Hispanic kids at football ten times out of ten. And it's not their fault. Just the culture of their environment. It could change in the future , but it's not happening anytime soon

I just think for all the bullshit that Fairfax County talks about "fairness" and "diversity" it all becomes evident when you look at the success of sports programs. White parents don't want their kids in these lackluster schools. Plain and simple. And you can't tell me sitting on a booster board at a West Springfield or a Lake Braddock or a Westfield that they don't have the power to draw the district lines so Tommy doesn't have to go somewhere he won't be successful.

Just my two cents.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Ghost of George Allen ()
Date: March 31, 2016 02:22PM

2 clueless Wrote:
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> NR Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Annandale/Woodson example cuts against your
> > claim, at least when it comes to football.
> > Annandale beats Woodson fairly consistently in
> > football. I saw Annandale play Centreville
> last
> > year, and they gave Centreville all kinds of
> fits.
> > They were also fairly competitive v. So Co in
> the
> > playoffs, at least through the first three
> > quarters. Their coaching staff does wonders
> with
> > a limited talent pool
> >
> > Woodson is good at hoops, but I'm not sold on
> them
> > when it comes to football They made last
> year's
> > playoffs thanks to a gift-wrapped win against
> West
> > Springfield.
>
>
>
> Well yea there is going to be some outliers.
> Annandale is a football school. Always has been
> always will be. They've had like 5 head coaches
> since the school opened. They struggled a little
> when Adams retired but it seems Mike Scott now has
> them back on track. Go to a game. They still
> polish their helmets, wear black cleats, and they
> play college fight songs for warm ups instead of
> that rap crap. It's rich in tradition.
>
>
> Same thing with Lee in softball. For some reason
> they always seem to be competitive. Even with much
> larger schools. In fact they just beat Westfield
> recently. They have kids move on to play at the
> next level. It's the culture of the program that
> has been created.
>
>
> Same thing can be said for Wakefield in
> Basketball.
>
>
> But look at the overall sports program of all of
> those schools and what do you notice? You can
> throw in Stuart and Falls Church as well. It's
> crappy. Simply put. It comes down to the
> demographics that the redistricting has done.
> Parents that aren't involved because of working
> late or unusual hours and kids that don't play
> sports until they get to high school. Caucasian
> and African American kids beat Middle Eastern,
> Asian, and Hispanic kids at football ten times out
> of ten. And it's not their fault. Just the culture
> of their environment. It could change in the
> future , but it's not happening anytime soon
>
> I just think for all the bullshit that Fairfax
> County talks about "fairness" and "diversity" it
> all becomes evident when you look at the success
> of sports programs. White parents don't want their
> kids in these lackluster schools. Plain and
> simple. And you can't tell me sitting on a booster
> board at a West Springfield or a Lake Braddock or
> a Westfield that they don't have the power to draw
> the district lines so Tommy doesn't have to go
> somewhere he won't be successful.
>
> Just my two cents.

(1) Annandale, rich in tradition? LOL.

(2) Middle Eastern, Asian, and Hispanic kids and football…sorry to be the one to tell you, but they don't play football in those countries.

(3) Booster boards don't have the power to draw school boundaries.

(4) White parents? I did not realize cross burning was now part of the FCPS curriculum.

(5) There are other forms of success in school besides playing football, basketball, and baseball.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Thomas Paine ()
Date: March 31, 2016 02:32PM

1) 6 football state championships

2) Exactly my point ass hat

3) Maybe not direct power but a huge influence

4) Doesn't even warrant a response

5) Academic and athletic success are directly related.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: first and honorable mention? ()
Date: March 31, 2016 02:47PM

Thomas Paine Wrote:
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> 1) 6 football state championships
>
> 2) Exactly my point ass hat
>
> 3) Maybe not direct power but a huge influence
>
> 4) Doesn't even warrant a response
>
> 5) Academic and athletic success are directly
> related.

Well, someone opened the door with the "white parents" comment. And yes, George Allen would be proud, he'll be handing out nooses at the next homecoming game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bad excuse ()
Date: March 31, 2016 04:51PM

It shouldn't really be an excuse for Oakton cause Westfield lost more kids than them since 2007. Infact Westfield's population is down by almost 700 but they are still dominant.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: OaktonPride ()
Date: March 31, 2016 05:08PM

Last year we were state champs for boys and girls tennis, boys swim and dive, and girls cross country.

In football we've made the playoffs 7 times since 2007.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SB parent ()
Date: April 01, 2016 12:38PM

2 clueless Wrote:
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> Same thing with Lee in softball. For some reason
> they always seem to be competitive. Even with much
> larger schools. In fact they just beat Westfield
> recently. They have kids move on to play at the
> next level. It's the culture of the program that
> has been created.
>

Sorry but this is just as laughable, if not more so, than saying Annandale always has been and will be a football powerhouse (not that their coaches don't to a good job with what they have).

I've had daughters playing softball for several years and nobody talks about Lee being any good at softball, the better softball schools in that part of the county are LB, SoCo and Hayfield. Westfield hasen't had any decent softball talent for at least the last 3-4 years so Lee beating them doesn't mean much.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick Question ()
Date: April 01, 2016 10:28PM

Who was a better player in their high school days? Evan Royster or AJ Turner. Turner was a dominant player who led Centreville to 3 straight state championship games, meanwhile Evan Royster only led Westfield to 1. However, he rushed for over 6000 yards in 3 years at and 8.5 ypc while also scoring 60 touchdowns in his last two years combined. And while we are at it, which team was better in your opinion. Westfield '03 or Centreville '13?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: April 02, 2016 12:43AM

That's more than a quick question.

Your stats are somewhat incorrect. Centreville played in the 2013 (win) and 2014 (loss) state championship games. They did not make it in 2012 and Turner was not a significant contributor the Centreville 2011 state runner-up team.

I would say objectively Royster was a better high school player. Turner's stats pale in comparison to Royster. Other than Royster's sophomore season, Turner had a better supporting cast and AJ did not play most of his senior year.

Wesfield '03 vs. Centreville '13 is very close I think. I would go with Westfield by a slim margin.

10 of their 14 wins were against teams that finished with records of .500 or better and three of them - Robinson, Hylton and Landstown - suffered their only losses of the season against Westfield. Westfield's playoff opponents were 43-7.

8 of Centreville's 15 wins came against opponents that had .500 or better records. Centreville's playoff opponents were 47-18.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conf 5 ()
Date: April 03, 2016 08:36PM

1. Westfield looks dangerous returning Frimpong on the outside. Lots of depth and great coaching helps them

2.Robinson typical physical Robinson team. Will be hard to stop.QB Alex Miller is a 3-year starter

3. Centreville returns QB Jameel siler and several other athletes. Siler can take them back to playoffs.

4. Chantilly. Lots of coaches stepped down. Miles is off to Freedom (5A). Defense will suffer as well as offense. TE Corey Thomas can hopefully keep them from tanking on offense being the only returning skill position starter.

5. Oakton No QB, but a good enough line with Banbury and Forster. 3 Great linemen for them. Will sorely miss bacon and beale.

6. Herndon will struggle to win 3 games this season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: chantilly questionable season??? ()
Date: April 03, 2016 08:42PM

conf 5 Wrote:
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> 1. Westfield looks dangerous returning Frimpong on
> the outside. Lots of depth and great coaching
> helps them
>
> 2.Robinson typical physical Robinson team. Will be
> hard to stop.QB Alex Miller is a 3-year starter
>
> 3. Centreville returns QB Jameel siler and several
> other athletes. Siler can take them back to
> playoffs.
>
> 4. Chantilly. Lots of coaches stepped down. Miles
> is off to Freedom (5A). Defense will suffer as
> well as offense. TE Corey Thomas can hopefully
> keep them from tanking on offense being the only
> returning skill position starter.
>
> 5. Oakton No QB, but a good enough line with
> Banbury and Forster. 3 Great linemen for them.
> Will sorely miss bacon and beale.
>
> 6. Herndon will struggle to win 3 games this
> season.

Chantilly has no guaranteed wins this season. Woodson had some young players last year. That was not a blowout win for Lalli.

I got Chantilly squeaking through that W.

Oakton Game will be huge for them. Playing at Oakton will be a great watch. Tilly always plays their best game of the season vs oakton. Tilly takes that W.

Lee Game. Football was not meant for Lee HS. Tilly W.

Herndon will struggle for sure. Tilly W.


Tilly only would have 4 wins, IF LUCKY!!!

if they dont make the playoffs lalli is gone.

Thomas is the only weapon for their offense next year. They will be returning a few linemen though... tilly will struggle.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conf 7 ()
Date: April 04, 2016 10:58AM

1. Lake Braddock

Atkins, Park, and RB/DB Mansaray headline a loaded class. Have heard about losing the Westfield game their whole carears. Maybe this year it changes. Defense will be solid again as they look to make another run.


2. South County

Lost plenty of seniors to last years Regional Finalist team but look for them to pick up where they left off.Spalding and QB/WR Michael Salsibury will lead the way on offense. On defense their anchored by LB Eric Nabinett and DB/WR Nate Avery. Pannoni will have them ready to play.


3. West Springfield

Program has been resurgent under 3 year coach Jason Eldridge. Musket returns as a senior and can will them to victory. He will have 6'3 target Daniel Adu at WR. Look for them to make a playoff run this year.



4. West Potomac

Always have talent but need to take the next step. Return QB Mark Ellis and RBs Justin Annan and Daiimon Cleveland. LB Erik Roach leads the way on defense.



5. Annandale

Back to back playoff appearances has Annandale on the rise. They're led by senior RB Jalen Jackson and LB Malik Moten. Play Centreville away in a key metric game.



6. Woodson

Snuck into the playoffs with an impressive victory against West Springfield. Up tempo offense can keep them in the game with most teams.



7. T.C. Williams

1st year coach James Longerbeam from Florida will look to return the historic school to greatness. Tough conference schedule will present a challenge in making the playoffs.



8. Mount Vernon


Will also have a first year head coach. Have a couple of talented players but Mcgriggs is gone to Villanova. Poor coaching and leadership has M.V. as the doormat in Conference 7.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: April 04, 2016 11:37AM

conf 7 Wrote:
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> 1. Lake Braddock
>
> Atkins, Park, and RB/DB Mansaray headline a loaded
> class. Have heard about losing the Westfield game
> their whole carears. Maybe this year it changes.
> Defense will be solid again as they look to make
> another run.
>
>
> 2. South County
>
> Lost plenty of seniors to last years Regional
> Finalist team but look for them to pick up where
> they left off.Spalding and QB/WR Michael Salsibury
> will lead the way on offense. On defense their
> anchored by LB Eric Nabinett and DB/WR Nate Avery.
> Pannoni will have them ready to play.
>
>
> 3. West Springfield
>
> Program has been resurgent under 3 year coach
> Jason Eldridge. Musket returns as a senior and can
> will them to victory. He will have 6'3 target
> Daniel Adu at WR. Look for them to make a playoff
> run this year.
>
>
>
> 4. West Potomac
>
> Always have talent but need to take the next step.
> Return QB Mark Ellis and RBs Justin Annan and
> Daiimon Cleveland. LB Erik Roach leads the way on
> defense.
>
>
>
> 5. Annandale
>
> Back to back playoff appearances has Annandale on
> the rise. They're led by senior RB Jalen Jackson
> and LB Malik Moten. Play Centreville away in a key
> metric game.
>
>
>
> 6. Woodson
>
> Snuck into the playoffs with an impressive victory
> against West Springfield. Up tempo offense can
> keep them in the game with most teams.
>
>
>
> 7. T.C. Williams
>
> 1st year coach James Longerbeam from Florida will
> look to return the historic school to greatness.
> Tough conference schedule will present a challenge
> in making the playoffs.
>
>
>
> 8. Mount Vernon
>
>
> Will also have a first year head coach. Have a
> couple of talented players but Mcgriggs is gone to
> Villanova. Poor coaching and leadership has M.V.
> as the doormat in Conference 7.


I'd agree with this prediction for Conference 7

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: out of Conference ()
Date: April 04, 2016 12:18PM

The VHSL is going to Follow Suit with the NFL and eliminate all CHOP/CUT Blocks so Robinson Automatically Falls Below Chantilly In the Conference 5 Rankings.

Oakton Moves up above Robinson as Forrester Moves to QB and Banbury to RB because we all know, what good is a great Line when you have Zero Skilled Players.

Chantilly, well TE Corey Thomas is going to Wear a Jersey Numbered #1 - #11 and take the Field By himself,then half the #'s are going to fall off his uniform and he will quit, well because 1 - mediocre TE cant do it all.

Herndon, well they will stay at the Bottom of the Conference because the only athletes they consistently have are Basketball or Soccer Players and do the math, it takes a whole lot of 1 and 2 point goals to make a TD.

Centreville, Rumor has it they recruited half the Guys that brought the Mulch up from Carolina for their Mulch Sale so they automatically Jump back to the Top of Conf. 5. Look forward to seeing them replenish the college ranks again.

Westfield, are we Really going with they Look Dangerous with Frimpong on the outside, I believe he had 9 targets all last year and Dropped 6. their only hope is Scanlon gets a Medical Redshirt and Comes back for a 7th year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Stone Bride ()
Date: April 04, 2016 05:55PM

How many games does Chantilly win this year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Facts baby ()
Date: April 04, 2016 06:16PM

The NFL got rid of chop blocks, not cut blocks. Chop blocks have been illegal in HS since the 70's. Sounds like the guys at Robinson know the rules much better than you do.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cut this ()
Date: April 04, 2016 09:08PM

Clearly your the only one that doesn't see the absurd humor in the post...and actually comes to this site because they consider themselves some kind of High school guru, what are you like 50.. Get a life...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: April 05, 2016 03:30PM

conf 5 Wrote:
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> 1. Westfield looks dangerous returning Frimpong on
> the outside. Lots of depth and great coaching
> helps them
>
> 2.Robinson typical physical Robinson team. Will be
> hard to stop.QB Alex Miller is a 3-year starter
>
> 3. Centreville returns QB Jameel siler and several
> other athletes. Siler can take them back to
> playoffs.
>
> 4. Chantilly. Lots of coaches stepped down. Miles
> is off to Freedom (5A). Defense will suffer as
> well as offense. TE Corey Thomas can hopefully
> keep them from tanking on offense being the only
> returning skill position starter.
>
> 5. Oakton No QB, but a good enough line with
> Banbury and Forster. 3 Great linemen for them.
> Will sorely miss bacon and beale.
>
> 6. Herndon will struggle to win 3 games this
> season.

What games do you see Herndon winning?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Eagles ()
Date: April 05, 2016 03:33PM

Conference 6 fan Wrote:
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> conf 5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1. Westfield looks dangerous returning Frimpong
> on
> > the outside. Lots of depth and great coaching
> > helps them
> >
> > 2.Robinson typical physical Robinson team. Will
> be
> > hard to stop.QB Alex Miller is a 3-year starter
> >
> > 3. Centreville returns QB Jameel siler and
> several
> > other athletes. Siler can take them back to
> > playoffs.
> >
> > 4. Chantilly. Lots of coaches stepped down.
> Miles
> > is off to Freedom (5A). Defense will suffer as
> > well as offense. TE Corey Thomas can hopefully
> > keep them from tanking on offense being the
> only
> > returning skill position starter.
> >
> > 5. Oakton No QB, but a good enough line with
> > Banbury and Forster. 3 Great linemen for them.
> > Will sorely miss bacon and beale.
> >
> > 6. Herndon will struggle to win 3 games this
> > season.
>
> What games do you see Herndon winning?


Falls Church is gaurentied

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Eagles ()
Date: April 06, 2016 08:53AM

GTFOH

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: EHxtc ()
Date: April 06, 2016 08:24PM

InsideSource Wrote:
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> Word through the grapevine is that a DC has
> already been selected at Westfield. Supposedly the
> young Line Coach was Everett's protégée and will
> take over the spot. Westfield usually hires
> Coordinators from within the program

"Westfield Football has promoted Mike Giancola, 2006 Westfield graduate, to Defensive Coordinator for the 2016 season."

He was the defensive play caller last season so it makes sense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: defensive coirdinator ()
Date: April 06, 2016 09:25PM

Promoting Giancola doesn't make sense it's seems obligatory...he is the Side-line leader during Games and so much more during practice...he's gonna be hard to replace and not near as effective from the booth..I get it..just don't think at this point it is the right move...will be interested in who takes over Giancolas role(s)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: outside source ()
Date: April 07, 2016 02:26PM

Word through the Grapevine:

How about Twitter Blast from Simmons Himself all you have to do is follow Westfield Football on Twitter its out there for the World to see...

No Big Secret Here...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: April 07, 2016 03:51PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> That's more than a quick question.
>
> Your stats are somewhat incorrect. Centreville
> played in the 2013 (win) and 2014 (loss) state
> championship games. They did not make it in 2012
> and Turner was not a significant contributor the
> Centreville 2011 state runner-up team.
>
> I would say objectively Royster was a better high
> school player. Turner's stats pale in comparison
> to Royster. Other than Royster's sophomore
> season, Turner had a better supporting cast and AJ
> did not play most of his senior year.
>
> Wesfield '03 vs. Centreville '13 is very close I
> think. I would go with Westfield by a slim
> margin.
>
> 10 of their 14 wins were against teams that
> finished with records of .500 or better and three
> of them - Robinson, Hylton and Landstown -
> suffered their only losses of the season against
> Westfield. Westfield's playoff opponents were
> 43-7.
>
> 8 of Centreville's 15 wins came against opponents
> that had .500 or better records. Centreville's
> playoff opponents were 47-18.




I have to disagree with your choice of Westfield 03 team being better than Centreville 13. I am obviously bias considering my name, but I watched both of those teams along with football here in Nova since the 70's. There has not been a better team than the Centreville 13 team that I have seen EVER in this area. That team dominated every team they played and could have set records that may never have been broken. If Haddock had not called off the dogs at half and had a Lake Braddock mindset, they would have set Offensive and Defensive records that would be mind blowing. The beat every team they played by a minimum of 3 touchdowns and again had the second and third teams playing the second half of most games.

In the playoffs they continued there dominance beating every team they played easily including the then #8 team in the country Oscar Smith handily in the Championship. The 03 Westfield team was unbelievable but did do not dominate like the 13 Centreville team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VvjKy ()
Date: April 07, 2016 03:59PM

outside source Wrote:
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> Word through the Grapevine:
>
> How about Twitter Blast from Simmons Himself all
> you have to do is follow Westfield Football on
> Twitter its out there for the World to see...
>
> No Big Secret Here...

That grapevine post was from February 1. Kinda hard to read someone's twitter feed 2 months into the future.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Baller ()
Date: April 07, 2016 09:51PM

Robinson gonna win it all this season. Calling it right now :)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Flat Balls ()
Date: April 08, 2016 08:42AM

Baller, I saw a passing game on E-BAY for $199.99, install that and you might finish 8-2, otherwise your not making it out of the 2nd round!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hahahahahhaahahah ()
Date: April 08, 2016 11:58AM

Baller Wrote:
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> Robinson gonna win it all this season. Calling it
> right now :)

Hahahahahahaha now that's funny! They can't even beat Soco!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Top 10 ()
Date: April 08, 2016 09:08PM

1. Westfield
2. Lake Braddock
3. Battlefield
4. Robinson
5. South County
6. Centerville
7. West Springfield
8. Chantilly
9. Madison
10. South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 23A ()
Date: April 08, 2016 09:17PM

Top 10 Wrote:
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> 1. Westfield
> 2. Lake Braddock
> 3. Battlefield
> 4. Robinson
> 5. South County
> 6. Centerville
> 7. West Springfield
> 8. Chantilly
> 9. Madison
> 10. South Lakes

Why are Madison and South Lakes on this list

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GFcPY ()
Date: April 09, 2016 02:10PM

Mr. Fondue Wrote:
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> Top talent returning in the northern region.

> Brian Delaney 2017
> K-Westfield
> 5'11 205
>
> Good size with good leg. 50 +. Very accurate. 73%
> touchbacks
>
> http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2869612/highlights/319
> 439489


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmfuJJ1Zxs&nohtml5=False

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: April 10, 2016 01:14AM

23A Wrote:
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> Top 10 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1. Westfield
> > 2. Lake Braddock
> > 3. Battlefield
> > 4. Robinson
> > 5. South County
> > 6. Centerville
> > 7. West Springfield
> > 8. Chantilly
> > 9. Madison
> > 10. South Lakes
>
> Why are Madison and South Lakes on this list

If you are talking about 6A North, I would agree this is the proper top ten list, and yes, Madison and South Lakes belong on this list. Keep in mind that there are only 27 6A North teams, so being #10 isn't really that high of a rank; it's almost in the middle.

If you don't think they belong, then who would you replace them with?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 30 ()
Date: April 10, 2016 01:33PM

Hayfield, West Potomac, Oakton

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football fan ()
Date: April 10, 2016 02:18PM

NR Fan Wrote:
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> 23A Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Top 10 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 1. Westfield
> > > 2. Lake Braddock
> > > 3. Battlefield
> > > 4. Robinson
> > > 5. South County
> > > 6. Centerville
> > > 7. West Springfield
> > > 8. Chantilly
> > > 9. Madison
> > > 10. South Lakes
> >
> > Why are Madison and South Lakes on this list
>
> If you are talking about 6A North, I would agree
> this is the proper top ten list, and yes, Madison
> and South Lakes belong on this list. Keep in mind
> that there are only 27 6A North teams, so being
> #10 isn't really that high of a rank; it's almost
> in the middle.
>
> If you don't think they belong, then who would you
> replace them with?

Identifying a "top ten" is kind of arbitrary. I would instead divide it into (a) teams that are locks for the playoffs, (b) teams that are playoff bubble teams, and (c) teams that likely won't make the playoffs.

Here's how I see it based on each individual conference

Conference 5: Westfield, Centreville and Robo are locks for the playoffs. Chantilly and Oakton are bubble teams, but at the top end of the bubble. Herndon would fit into category (c).

Conference 6: I agree that South Lakes and Madison are the top two teams, and locks for the playoffs. I would put McLean, WL and Yorktown in category (c). I look for Hayfield to take a step back, but for Langley and Fairfax to be improved, which makes all three of these teams playoff bubble teams.

Conference 7: LB, Soco, West Springfield and West Potomac are locks for the playoffs. Annandale and Woodson are playoff bubble teams. TCW and Mt. Vernon are likely out.

Conference 8: Battlefield is a lock. Patriot is a bubble team. Stonewall Jackson, Osborne, and Osborne Part are likely out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: DejaVu? ()
Date: April 10, 2016 04:14PM

So the same results as last year save W and L ? No way. W and L has got something going on with Shapiro. They have like 3 consecutive playoff appearances under him. Madison and Chantilly will be garbage next year. Both teams lost all region QBbs and 90 percent of their offensive production. Patriot is in and I think one of the Osbourne schools is a bubble team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: April 10, 2016 07:41PM

DejaVu? Wrote:
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> So the same results as last year save W and L ? No
> way. W and L has got something going on with
> Shapiro. They have like 3 consecutive playoff
> appearances under him. Madison and Chantilly will
> be garbage next year. Both teams lost all region
> QBbs and 90 percent of their offensive production.
> Patriot is in and I think one of the Osbourne
> schools is a bubble team.

We'll see. It's certainly fun to speculate and my guess is as good as any. Here's my rationale for WL, Chantilly and Madison

WL is one of the best coached teams I've seen, but they have issues getting enough kids to come out. I believe they dressed fewer than 40 kids for varsity last year, while most teams dress around 50. Depth can be an issue. Also, their team last year was heavy on Seniors. I think they are losing their entire O line, and Espinoza, who contributed on both sides of the ball. Their lower level teams were bad. So, even though they have a good coach who gets a lot out of the talent he has, I think they will struggle for reasons of inexperience and depth.

It's hard to count Chantilly out because they are in Concorde, and I think they will finish 5th place this year, but that may not matter, as Concorde usually gets 5 teams in the playoffs.

Madison is losing a lot, but their lower level programs performed well, so I think they can replace what they lost. They did win Conference 6 and had a 9-1 record. I think the reasons you mention will be the reason they don't win Conference 6 (I think South Lakes is the Conference 6 favorite), but I think they'll get enough wins to get them in.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: April 10, 2016 07:43PM

Cvillebacker Wrote:
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> RydellllRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > Wesfield '03 vs. Centreville '13 is very close
> I
> > think. I would go with Westfield by a slim
> > margin.
> >
> > 10 of their 14 wins were against teams that
> > finished with records of .500 or better and
> three
> > of them - Robinson, Hylton and Landstown -
> > suffered their only losses of the season
> against
> > Westfield. Westfield's playoff opponents were
> > 43-7.
> >
> > 8 of Centreville's 15 wins came against
> opponents
> > that had .500 or better records. Centreville's
> > playoff opponents were 47-18.
>
>
>
>
> I have to disagree with your choice of Westfield
> 03 team being better than Centreville 13. I am
> obviously bias considering my name, but I watched
> both of those teams along with football here in
> Nova since the 70's. There has not been a better
> team than the Centreville 13 team that I have seen
> EVER in this area. That team dominated every team
> they played and could have set records that may
> never have been broken. If Haddock had not called
> off the dogs at half and had a Lake Braddock
> mindset, they would have set Offensive and
> Defensive records that would be mind blowing. The
> beat every team they played by a minimum of 3
> touchdowns and again had the second and third
> teams playing the second half of most games.
>
> In the playoffs they continued there dominance
> beating every team they played easily including
> the then #8 team in the country Oscar Smith
> handily in the Championship. The 03 Westfield
> team was unbelievable but did do not dominate like
> the 13 Centreville team.

Like I said, it’s very close in my mind. My criteria for evaluation was strength of schedule and I think by all objective standards (RPI, etc.) Westfield had a more difficult strength of schedule. Their last 3 playoff opponents were undefeated when Westfield played them.

Robinson, 11-0, had won 2 of the previous 6 state championships (1997 and 2001).

Hylton, 12-0, were the defending state champions, had reached the state semis for the sixth consecutive year and had won 3 of the last 5 state championships (1998, 1999, 2002): and Westfield handed them their first home field playoff loss in school history.

Landstown, 13-0, would go on to win the 2004 state championship.

By comparison, Centreville was playing against the likes of South Lakes (5-5), South County (9-2, who actually ran up a 21-0 nothing lead before folding) and Stonewall Jackson (8-4) before playing twice defeated Westfield (11-2) and ultimately undefeated Oscar Smith (14-0, but playing a freshman QB that was not ready for a game of this caliber).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: formerstuarter ()
Date: April 10, 2016 11:49PM

lol did you guys hear about what happened to coach ferri from stuart? sad to hear him go, but he went out in a pretty stupid way..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: F9uLT ()
Date: April 11, 2016 10:39AM

Nope...

Heard that former Oakton standout QB Coyer is going to be an asst coach at Westfield coming season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jdheel ()
Date: April 11, 2016 12:12PM

Top 10 Wrote:
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> 1. Westfield
> 2. Lake Braddock
> 3. Battlefield
> 4. Robinson
> 5. South County
> 6. Centerville
> 7. West Springfield
> 8. Chantilly
> 9. Madison
> 10. South Lakes

Braddock gets too much credit once again. How can Robinson be ahead of Soco, they have zero offense!! What makes Battlefield so good? List is a bit off if you ask me.

Westfield
Soco
LB
Robinson
Battlefield
West Springfield
Centreville
Chantilly
West Po
Oakton

Once again, Robinson is not good!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruin Fan ()
Date: April 11, 2016 12:51PM

Both Braddock and Robinson out-played South County, but didn't get it done when it mattered. Robinson went up and down the field against SOCO but couldn't get in the endzone. If they don't throw a pick six they still win the game even with the redzone issues.
SOCO has the more talent than most, but they never live up to their potential.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rankingtheranking ()
Date: April 12, 2016 03:23AM

jdheel Wrote:
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> Braddock gets too much credit once again. How can
> Robinson be ahead of Soco, they have zero
> offense!! What makes Battlefield so good? List
> is a bit off if you ask me.
>
> Westfield
> Soco
> LB
> Robinson
> Battlefield
> West Springfield
> Centreville
> Chantilly
> West Po
> Oakton
>
> Once again, Robinson is not good!!

So you got Robinson ranked 4th in the region but then say they are not good?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Says.... ()
Date: April 12, 2016 09:11AM

Bruin Fan Wrote:
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> Both Braddock and Robinson out-played South
> County, but didn't get it done when it mattered.
> Robinson went up and down the field against SOCO
> but couldn't get in the endzone. If they don't
> throw a pick six they still win the game even with
> the redzone issues.
> SOCO has the more talent than most, but they never
> live up to their potential.

Says the Bruin Fan who lost to Soco this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: They're ()
Date: April 12, 2016 09:13AM

rankingtheranking Wrote:
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> jdheel Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Braddock gets too much credit once again. How
> can
> > Robinson be ahead of Soco, they have zero
> > offense!! What makes Battlefield so good?
> List
> > is a bit off if you ask me.
> >
> > Westfield
> > Soco
> > LB
> > Robinson
> > Battlefield
> > West Springfield
> > Centreville
> > Chantilly
> > West Po
> > Oakton
> >
> > Once again, Robinson is not good!!
>
> So you got Robinson ranked 4th in the region but
> then say they are not good?

Pretty much. They are better than the rest of that list, but that's not saying much lol!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TC Titan ()
Date: April 12, 2016 09:54AM

Braddock outplayed SoCo? I think there were 12,000 spectators at that game that would say otherwise.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sure! ()
Date: April 12, 2016 10:14AM

TC Titan Wrote:
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> Braddock outplayed SoCo? I think there were
> 12,000 spectators at that game that would say
> otherwise.


Sure did, for two and a half quarters! But they LOST!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: leftguard ()
Date: April 13, 2016 11:42AM

I think the 6A north region will be wide-open this fall season. The usual suspects will be near the top: Westfield, Robinson, South County, Lake Braddock, Centreville, Battlefield. But I do not think it is a slam-dunk that Westfield is the favorite.

They do have a number of players returning but the very best of the last few years are gone (particularly they will miss Scanlon and Aiello). They have a number of new coaches also.

I think Centreville will be a lot better – I look for them to show improvement and be a contender.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly Alum. ()
Date: April 15, 2016 05:01PM

Chantilly has the athletes this yr. Will see the importance of them. Dont know much about rising QB Holl. Maybe they will find a younger QB or make a QB swap for his position.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly Booster ()
Date: April 15, 2016 07:30PM

Chantilly has nothing coming back in the Skill positions like they had last year..GTFO....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: txnex ()
Date: April 16, 2016 01:26PM

txnex

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: April 18, 2016 01:53PM

Was at the opening yesterday. Saw a lot of great talent.

I'll cover some of the players from 6A North. Andrew Park (Braddock TE/MD Commit) did not compete. APB Lamont Atkins (Braddock) tested well and did well in the competitions. Corey Thomas (Chantilly) Impressed. Big Target with soft hands. John Daido (Oakton) TE was knocked around in 1 on 1s. He's simply 40 pounds underweight. Jameel Siler (Centreville) didn't see much of him. When I did he performed well. Cville definitely can be a contender next year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: April 19, 2016 10:44AM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Was at the opening yesterday. Saw a lot of great
> talent.
>
> I'll cover some of the players from 6A North.
> Andrew Park (Braddock TE/MD Commit) did not
> compete. APB Lamont Atkins (Braddock) tested well
> and did well in the competitions. Corey Thomas
> (Chantilly) Impressed. Big Target with soft hands.
> John Daido (Oakton) TE was knocked around in 1 on
> 1s. He's simply 40 pounds underweight. Jameel
> Siler (Centreville) didn't see much of him. When I
> did he performed well. Cville definitely can be a
> contender next year.


Any NOVA linemen there?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: eeWej ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:18AM

How did Peter Muskett (WS) and Rehman Johnson (WFD) do? Any other NOVA QB’s there?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF dogs ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:47AM

Bruin Fan Wrote:
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> Both Braddock and Robinson out-played South
> County, but didn't get it done when it mattered.
> Robinson went up and down the field against SOCO
> but couldn't get in the endzone. If they don't
> throw a pick six they still win the game even with
> the redzone issues.
> SOCO has the more talent than most, but they never
> live up to their potential.

SoCo Total offense 511 yds Lake B 299
SoCo 27 first Downs LB 16
SoCo 276 yds rushing LB 168
SC pass 16-25 233 1 TD LB 9-19 166 1 TD
LB won the first qtr was up 27-7 and SC woke up and dominated the mid of 2nd qtr thru the end of OT.

LB had 2 big plays a Kickoff return and 1 big run up middle by Mansaray on a blown assignment. If LB out played SC I would be happy to be outplayed like that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: April 19, 2016 10:29PM

eeWej Wrote:
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> How did Peter Muskett (WS) and Rehman Johnson
> (WFD) do? Any other NOVA QB’s there?


Both looked solid. Johnson looked good in particular. Seemed to get along well with Thomas in 1 on 1s. Dillon Spalding looked like a grown man. He looked good as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: April 19, 2016 10:32PM

Let's also note that Thad WCAC dominated this competition. Good Council and DeMatha kids prevailed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Novafootballfan ()
Date: April 19, 2016 11:08PM

Let's not put too much value in to these camps with no equipment on. Many of the regions best football players aren't anywhere near those camps. You think scanlon and Aiello from WF were at that stuff last year? No. It has no bearing on the 2016 football season

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: April 20, 2016 08:01AM

Novafootballfan Wrote:
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> Let's not put too much value in to these camps
> with no equipment on. Many of the regions best
> football players aren't anywhere near those camps.
> You think scanlon and Aiello from WF were at that
> stuff last year? No. It has no bearing on the 2016
> football season


I'll second that emotion. These camps remind me of the South Korean's that KILL it on a driving range but have never set foot on an actual golf course.

Passing camps and 7 on 7s have a tendency to teach QBs to take more time than they will have in a live fire game and to throw through passing lanes that aren't going to be there in a live fire game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Campy ()
Date: April 20, 2016 02:14PM

Three of the Best Football players in the Northern Region were camping that weekend...down on the Shenandoah, Fishing and having fun.. we will see who has the papers come December...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: htGnD ()
Date: April 21, 2016 06:23AM

htGnD

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Re: 2016 High School Football Coaches
Posted by: Billy gillfis ()
Date: April 21, 2016 12:23PM

Any word on potomac falls football coaching search?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FC ()
Date: April 21, 2016 12:50PM

What do y'all think about Falls Church football

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: April 21, 2016 01:30PM

Three of the Best Football players in the Northern Region were camping that weekend...down on the Shenandoah, Fishing and having fun.. we will see who has the papers come December...

_______________________________________________________________________________

Would love to see who you're referring to, not to nitpick just to see who they might be.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Vp7cK ()
Date: April 21, 2016 02:56PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: student sports ()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:24PM

nice to see the actual height/weight and real #'s on these guys

Spalding is a great example of an athlete who doesn't "TEST" well notice 3 scores absent who is actually only 6' - 1" whom performs far better on the field.

compare him to Frimpong who scores very well, yet has not contributed on the field any where near Spalding.

Then take an athelete like Kroll who scored really Low comparatively, not a team in the State that wouldn't chose him over just about any other line-man.

Bernacchi scored decent for a Norhtern Region Line-man.

Nothing eye popping on Muskett and/or Johnson other than Johnson's 5+ second 40. and non-existent vertical.

Put the pads on and Play Boys!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soccer Rules ()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:26PM

Falls Church has a Football Team?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: liberty fan ()
Date: April 21, 2016 09:54PM

For all the grief that Liberty conference football gets, it's nice to see that there are two participants from Liberty Conference teams, both linemen. And there are better Liberty Linemen who didn't get invitations, which makes you wonder about the criteria for getting an invitation.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the facts ()
Date: April 22, 2016 10:01AM

The New England Patriots roster is full of guys that "didn't get the invite" or underperformed by some metric, and all they do is WIN!

A lot of Glory Hogs Pimp themselves or their Parents for the attention...many quality athletes in the Northern Region quietly go about their business and leave their Mark on the Field. Liberty has some Talent!

Winners find a way!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Predictions ()
Date: April 25, 2016 07:01PM

I think Westfield is virtually a lock to win the NR.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: April 25, 2016 07:12PM

Predictions Wrote:
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> I think Westfield is virtually a lock to win the
> NR.

You really went out on a limb there. A bold pick. Can you elaborate on why you think so other than they did last year? I don't really see that they are particularly loaded up with any great talent. Don't you think Centreville has a chance to make a good run at it?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Prediction Maker ()
Date: April 25, 2016 08:01PM

footballobserver2 Wrote:
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> Predictions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think Westfield is virtually a lock to win
> the
> > NR.
>
> You really went out on a limb there. A bold pick.
> Can you elaborate on why you think so other than
> they did last year? I don't really see that they
> are particularly loaded up with any great talent.
> Don't you think Centreville has a chance to make a
> good run at it?

Sorry I didn't clarify. I believe Westfield will win the NR because they have atleast 10-15 players who made significant contributions returning. Additionally they had an undefeated JV which let up only 18 points all year and a freshmen team that literally blew out everyone they played. And like always have one of the best coaching staffs out there. Centreville might be a playoff team but won't be contending for the NR title because I'm pretty sure all of their teams were mediocre last year. Their rising seniors are a decent class, however, their rising juniors are mediocre, and their rising sophomores struggled heavily against some Concorde schools as freshmen, but I believe they had a few injuries, but I'm not sure. What stands out is their 50-3 loss against Westfield's freshman. But hey, anything can happen.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: April 25, 2016 08:35PM

Yeah, I heard a lot of good things about the freshman team but I really doubt many will see much playing time as sophomores. Maybe a few. You are making the same arguments as others. Not saying you wrong.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: April 26, 2016 08:13AM

Yeah, I heard a lot of good things about the freshman team but I really doubt many will see much playing time as sophomores. Maybe a few. You are making the same arguments as others. Not saying you wrong.

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There will probably be 4 players from Westfield's freshman team this past season that will move up to varsity and contribute. There are a few others that will suit up Friday nights but not play much if at all unless the games a blowout.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region fan ()
Date: April 26, 2016 01:32PM

I'd have to agree that Westfield is the favorite this year.

Here's my way too early prediction for how the conferences will shake out:

Concorde:
1. Westfield
2. Robinson
3. Centreville
4. Oakton
5. Chantilly
6. Herndon

Liberty:
1. South Lakes
2. Madison
3. Langley
4. Hayfield
5. Fairfax
6. Yorktown
7. Washington-Lee
8. McLean

Patriot:
1. Lake Braddock
2. South County
3. West Springfield
4. West Potomac
5. Annandale
6. Woodson
7. TCW
8. Mt. Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: D5 Fan ()
Date: April 26, 2016 03:07PM

What about the best of the D5 schools?

Didn't the Loudoun 5's do pretty well against the Fairfax 6's last year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football is for losers ()
Date: April 26, 2016 03:15PM

You'd think you'd have learned this from the implosion of George Allen's political career. Being a football family is nothing to be proud of, in fact, as Allen's case shows, it is a liability.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Or not ()
Date: April 26, 2016 04:05PM

football is for losers Wrote:
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> You'd think you'd have learned this from the
> implosion of George Allen's political career.
> Being a football family is nothing to be proud of,
> in fact, as Allen's case shows, it is a liability.


you sound fat.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: losinglosers ()
Date: April 26, 2016 04:42PM

football is for losers Wrote:
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> > Being a football family is nothing to be proud of ... it is a liability.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: throw a ball, burn a cross ()
Date: April 26, 2016 05:00PM

And we all know how the future turned out for George "Noose" Allen.

Face, it there are always anomalies (e.g., Reagan), but for everyone of those, you'll find a George Allen or Trent Mays.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rankingtheranking ()
Date: April 26, 2016 07:06PM

The rest of them... 2016

National
1. Wakefield
2. Falls Church
3. Edison
4. Marshall
5. Lee
6. Stuart
7. Thomas Jefferson

Potomac
1. Stone Bridge
2. Broad Run
3. Tuscarora
4. Briar Woods
5. Potomac Falls

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: eliminate football ()
Date: April 26, 2016 07:10PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/university-of-tennessee-rape-culture-lawsuit_us_56bb6e6be4b0c3c5504fa164

Until the link between football and rape culture is broken, football must be elimianted. The next victim could be your daughter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: April 26, 2016 07:40PM

eliminate football Wrote:
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/university-of-
> tennessee-rape-culture-lawsuit_us_56bb6e6be4b0c3c5
> 504fa164
>
> Until the link between football and rape culture
> is broken, football must be elimianted. The next
> victim could be your daughter.

Your first mistake here would be citing HuffPo. Case closed. I am guessing the English department at your school was elimianted?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: re-evaluate football ()
Date: April 26, 2016 08:01PM

http://www.thenation.com/article/how-jock-culture-supports-rape-culture-maryville-steubenville/

Criticize sources all you like, but the football rape problem is real.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: April 26, 2016 08:40PM

re-evaluate football Wrote:
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> http://www.thenation.com/article/how-jock-culture-
> supports-rape-culture-maryville-steubenville/
>
> Criticize sources all you like, but the football
> rape problem is real.

No. It is not. Now you go with the Nation? Have you looked at how many teachers in the US are arrested every year for sex crimes against children? By your logic there is a teacher problem that is real. Keep your kids out of school and away from teachers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soccer starz ()
Date: April 26, 2016 08:44PM

I believe ISIL is raping far more women these days than football players go back to your moms basement and get the Fuck off this thread.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the football rape problem ()
Date: April 27, 2016 10:58AM

This is a public forum. If you want to waste time talking about high school football in private, set up your own site.

In the meantime, read this:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0828/Steubenville-rape-convict-back-on-football-team-Has-culture-changed

It went beyond players-coaches and administrators were charged as well.

Civilization got by for thousands of years without football. Most of the world still does. What would be the harm in banning it, or at least curtailing it?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vH9VC ()
Date: April 27, 2016 10:58AM

Predictions Wrote:
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> I think Westfield is virtually a lock to win the
> NR.

Westfield football runs in about 4 year cycles.

2000 – first year of football
2003 – state champions
2007 – state champions
2011 – were on track to at least make it to states but bad luck in NR title game kept them out – probably best Westfield team to not win a title
2015 – state champions

be interesting to see if the coaches/players are still hungry after making it over the hump. they have never won a regional title the year after they made it to states.

didn’t really think this year’s state title team was one of the better group’s Westfield has had – but they seemed to be mentally tougher than some in the past and they played like a team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: April 27, 2016 04:22PM

vH9VC Wrote:
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> Predictions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think Westfield is virtually a lock to win
> the
> > NR.
>
> Westfield football runs in about 4 year cycles.
>
> 2000 – first year of football
> 2003 – state champions
> 2007 – state champions
> 2011 – were on track to at least make it to
> states but bad luck in NR title game kept them out
> – probably best Westfield team to not win a
> title
> 2015 – state champions
>
> be interesting to see if the coaches/players are
> still hungry after making it over the hump. they
> have never won a regional title the year after
> they made it to states.
>
> didn’t really think this year’s state title
> team was one of the better group’s Westfield has
> had – but they seemed to be mentally tougher
> than some in the past and they played like a team.

Not really a cycle. 2003 and 2007 were the Glennons' senior years and the best Westfield team not to win it all was 2006 no doubt.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: just be done with it ()
Date: April 27, 2016 04:59PM

Football is all about an elite 1%.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/2178683.html

Read all about the spoiled little girl who thought her life would be ruined if football went away. Sob, sob sob.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bernie Sanders ()
Date: April 27, 2016 05:02PM

just be done with it Wrote:
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> Football is all about an elite 1%.

I support this message. A vote for Bernie is a vote against high school football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: an honest question ()
Date: April 27, 2016 05:53PM

What, really, would happen if FCPS stopped having football? It is not like the world would explode or anything.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: an honest answer ()
Date: April 27, 2016 06:12PM

Life would go on. Adjustments would be made. Now go back to your sucking your thumb in your FCPS combating intolerance class.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the door has been opened ()
Date: April 27, 2016 09:09PM

an honest answer Wrote:
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> Life would go on. Adjustments would be made. Now
> go back to your sucking your thumb in your FCPS
> combating intolerance class.

It won't be long before kids from non football playing countries will be the majority of the FCPS student population, at that point, adjustments can be made, so enjoy it while you can!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Prey Tell ()
Date: April 28, 2016 01:58PM

No. Pray, tell what happened.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: just doesn't matter ()
Date: May 01, 2016 05:12PM

Westfield will always rule

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: agreed homey ()
Date: May 02, 2016 06:42PM

Agreed Westfield best, Centreville and Chantilly and others suck.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Yep to tgat ()
Date: May 03, 2016 10:31AM

And on the eighth day God created Westfield high school

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No wrong buddy ()
Date: May 05, 2016 10:42AM

Mt Vernon is the school of all schools....................................!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: An Angry God ()
Date: May 05, 2016 11:14AM

Yep to tgat Wrote:
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> And on the eighth day God created Westfield high
> school


And then God punished the sodomites by destroying the football program at Westfield…

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfield is god ()
Date: May 07, 2016 09:05AM

God is Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football is Bad ()
Date: May 07, 2016 12:14PM

Football is responsible for rape, entitlement, corruption and pedophile coaches and band teachers.

It is time to get rid of it, it has served its purpose.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pen state alum ()
Date: May 07, 2016 02:07PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Football is Bad ()

Date: May 07, 2016 12:14PM


Football is responsible for rape, entitlement, corruption and pedophile coaches and band teachers.

It is time to get rid of it, it has served its purpose.

I'm sorry for what happened between you and Jerry Sandusky but he is in prison now and can't hurt anyone else. You should see consoling

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 9LGhp ()
Date: May 07, 2016 04:30PM

Football is Bad Wrote:
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> Football is responsible for rape, entitlement,
> corruption and pedophile coaches and band
> teachers.
>
> It is time to get rid of it, it has served its
> purpose.

^^^^

Hillary Clinton voter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WildcatFan ()
Date: May 11, 2016 09:05AM

To piggyback off this Turner Royster arguement. Go look at how many carries AJ had. Never really touched the ball more than 8 or 10 times a game. Royster was getting the ball every play. He had Eddie Royal, Glennon, Corrum, the list goes on. All played in the NFL at some point. I dont think you can say that AJ's Centreville "team" had a better cast. The 2013 Centreville team was never challenged. They never played in a second half, except in the State Semi's (Which was still a blowout) and the state championship.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: F9uLT ()
Date: May 11, 2016 09:16AM

WildcatFan Wrote:
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> To piggyback off this Turner Royster arguement.
> Go look at how many carries AJ had. Never really
> touched the ball more than 8 or 10 times a game.
> Royster was getting the ball every play.

I think the question was who had a better high school career. And I think you just answered the question.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballhistorianlevel2 ()
Date: May 11, 2016 04:41PM

to be accurate the Glennon that played with Royster did not play in the NFL neither did Corum.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: May 11, 2016 05:18PM

to be accurate the Glennon that played with Royster did not play in the NFL neither did Corum

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Sean Glennon played with Royal, Mike Glennon played with Roster.

Sean Glennon was on a couple rosters in pre-season I believe.

Mike Glennon is an NFL quarterback on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: May 11, 2016 05:21PM

Royster, not Roster, sorry.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 2009 Minnesota Viking Media Guid ()
Date: May 11, 2016 10:35PM

.
Attachments:
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballhistorianlevel1 ()
Date: May 11, 2016 10:49PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> to be accurate the Glennon that played with
> Royster did not play in the NFL neither did Corum
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>
> Sean Glennon played with Royal, Mike Glennon
> played with Roster.

@@

Evan Royster was a freshman at Westfield in 2002 - played WR. Sean Glennon was QB. In 2003 - his sophomore year he played RB. Sean was SR QB and they won the state title. In Royster's JR year of 2004, Val Arduini played QB. 2005 was Royster's SR year and the QB was mostly Josh Witmer although Mike Glennon did get some playing time as a SO.

Wow. This thread is getting boring...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: May 12, 2016 09:46AM

Oscar Smith has 9 games scheduled for 2016. Who wants to take on the Tigers? Current open dates 8/26 & 9/9...Damatha Backed out... St. Francis backed out....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldogs ()
Date: May 12, 2016 04:51PM

Tiger Pride Wrote:
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> Oscar Smith has 9 games scheduled for 2016. Who
> wants to take on the Tigers? Current open dates
> 8/26 & 9/9...Damatha Backed out... St. Francis
> backed out....


I bet OS doesn't want to see Westfield ever again after what they did to them this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: May 13, 2016 08:05AM

The State Championship game was a thriller. A rematch would likely get Nationally televised. I would love to see Westfield in the 757 in December: that would be great! Almost the entire Smith team Is returning next year AND is now Coached by Bill Dee. Both teams could be early favorites to be back to the State Game in December, Let's hope.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nah ()
Date: May 13, 2016 08:21AM

why would Westfield have to come down to the 757, does that tilt the playing field in there favor or something.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: V49Mb ()
Date: May 13, 2016 12:14PM

nah Wrote:
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> why would Westfield have to come down to the 757,
> does that tilt the playing field in there favor or
> something.


Westfield would love to be playing OS in December. That would be for the state title. As FYI - 6A state championship has been moved from UVA/Charlottesville to Hampton U/Hampton.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/vhsl-shifts-state-championship-sites-increasing-travel-for-northern-virginia-schools/2016/05/05/f09cf524-12ea-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: May 13, 2016 01:14PM

Interesting fact is that Smith is about 180 miles from C'Ville. That's the same distance Westfield would have to travel to Hampton U. should they play in the State title game. Westfield is only about 95 miles from C'Ville.

I hope Hampton U. will hold everyone. The Southern Regional Finals that have been at the VA Beach Sportsplex have had big enough crowds to fill that stadium.

U. of Richmond would have been a more neutral sight and able to handle the crowds better.

Nonetheless, even if the game was played on the eastern shore, they would be worth traveling to see Smith vs Westfield play each other again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: May 15, 2016 08:59AM

I have a very good feeling that there are going to be several major upsets this year that will shock a lot of people. Yes indeed, I do believe that this season will be one to remember.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: May 16, 2016 07:54AM

Visionary Wrote:
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> I have a very good feeling that there are going to
> be several major upsets this year that will shock
> a lot of people. Yes indeed, I do believe that
> this season will be one to remember.

For example?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: May 16, 2016 08:04AM

OK, I'll go ahead and ask... What makes you certain about the big upsets? Big transfers are usually connected to such big dreams, but with the powerhouse teams the transfers don't assure failure or success.

Last year Smith had 3 Div I recruits transfer out & still nearly won the State Title. The perennial contenders have a winning culture that is bigger than the selfish kids that leave the program..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soccer Rules ()
Date: May 16, 2016 08:35AM

Upsets, are character Builders...and If you respond properly you get rewarded properly...They still have to line up and Play the Game. Just Ask South County I am certain they would have rather defeated Westfield in Week 14 as opposed to week 2!

Robinson
Lake Braddock
West Potomac
Westfield
Centreville

Will all be in the Mix, a few Div. 5 Schools will outplay a few Div. 6 schools.. and the Winner will make the drive to Hampton!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: May 16, 2016 10:33AM

Soccer Rules Wrote:
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> Upsets, are character Builders...and If you
> respond properly you get rewarded properly...They
> still have to line up and Play the Game. Just Ask
> South County I am certain they would have rather
> defeated Westfield in Week 14 as opposed to week
> 2!
>
> Robinson
> Lake Braddock
> West Potomac
> Westfield
> Centreville
>
> Will all be in the Mix, a few Div. 5 Schools will
> outplay a few Div. 6 schools.. and the Winner will
> make the drive to Hampton!


Please tell me why West Po is on this list.... But anyways, don't wanna ruin the surprise, but there are some things in the making that for the 6A division that I'm very confident will make for an exciting and action-packed fall. :)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: May 16, 2016 01:53PM

Visionary Wrote:
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> Soccer Rules Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Upsets, are character Builders...and If you
> > respond properly you get rewarded
> properly...They
> > still have to line up and Play the Game. Just
> Ask
> > South County I am certain they would have
> rather
> > defeated Westfield in Week 14 as opposed to
> week
> > 2!
> >
> > Robinson
> > Lake Braddock
> > West Potomac
> > Westfield
> > Centreville
> >
> > Will all be in the Mix, a few Div. 5 Schools
> will
> > outplay a few Div. 6 schools.. and the Winner
> will
> > make the drive to Hampton!
>
>
> Please tell me why West Po is on this list.... But
> anyways, don't wanna ruin the surprise, but there
> are some things in the making that for the 6A
> division that I'm very confident will make for an
> exciting and action-packed fall. :)

So, are you saying that you are predicting:

- Herdon to win Concorde
- McLean to win Liberty
- Mt. Vernon to win Patriot
- Stonewall Jackson to win Conference 8
- TJ to win conference 13?

Those would all qualify for surprises.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: suprise this ()
Date: May 16, 2016 01:58PM

it is about time for the Morons to start lighting up this board with the South County this and Lake Braddock that and West Springfield Blah Blah Blah...that Is No surprise...Winning it all...that's the Surprise!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FUckFooTBall ()
Date: May 16, 2016 07:45PM

Wonder what would happen if we spent as much money as we do on football on books for kids who can't afford them...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CONCORDE SCHEDULES ()
Date: May 16, 2016 08:13PM

Centreville:
9/2
7:00p
Annandale (Annandale, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

9/9
7:00p
@ Fairfax (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Fairfax High School

9/16
7:00p
@ Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Broad Run High School

9/30
7:00p
Lake Braddock (Burke, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

10/7
7:00p
Oakton (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

10/15
1:00p
Herndon (Herndon, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

10/21
7:00p
@ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School
Rivalry Game

10/28
7:00p
Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

11/4
7:00p
@ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School




Chantilly:
9/1
7:00p
Woodson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

9/9
7:00p
@ Lee (Springfield, VA)
Game Details: Lee High School

9/16
7:00p
Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

9/23
7:00p
Herndon (Herndon, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

9/30
7:00p
@ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

10/7
7:00p
@ McLean (McLean, VA)
Game Details: McLean High School

10/14
7:00p
@ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School

10/21
7:00p
Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

10/28
7:00p
@ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

11/4
7:00p
Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School




Herndon:
9/1
7:00p
Fairfax (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

9/9
7:00p
Stuart (Falls Church, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

9/16
7:00p
@ Falls Church (Falls Church, VA)
Game Details: Falls Church High School

9/23
7:00p
@ Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

10/7
7:00p
South Lakes (Reston, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

10/15
1:00p
@ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

10/21
7:00p
@ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

10/28
7:00p
Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

11/4
7:00p
@ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School




Oakton:
9/2
7:00p
@ Madison (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Madison High School

9/10
3:00p
@ T.C. Williams (Alexandria, VA)
Game Details: Williams, TC High School

9/23
7:00p
Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School

9/30
7:00p
@ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

10/7
7:00p
@ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
Game Details: Centreville High School

10/14
7:00p
Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School

10/21
7:00p
Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School

10/28
7:00p
@ Falls Church (Falls Church, VA)
Game Details: Falls Church High School

11/4
7:00p
Herndon (Herndon, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School




Robinson:
9/2
7:00p
West Springfield (Springfield, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

9/9
7:00p
@ Woodson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Woodson High School

9/16
7:00p
@ Lake Braddock (Burke, VA)
Game Details: Lake Braddock High School
Rivalry Game

9/23
7:00p
@ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Oakton High School

9/30
7:00p
Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

10/7
7:00p
Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

10/14
7:00p
@ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

10/21
7:00p
Herndon (Herndon, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School

10/28
7:00p
@ Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Broad Run High School

11/4
7:00p
Centreville (Clifton, VA)
Game Details: Robinson High School




Westfield:
9/1
7:00p
Washington-Lee (Arlington, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

9/9
7:00p
@ South County (Lorton, VA)
Game Details: South County High School

9/16
7:00p
T.C. Williams (Alexandria, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

9/23
7:00p
@ Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Stone Bridge High School

9/30
7:00p
Oakton (Vienna, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

10/7
7:00p
@ Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA)
Game Details: Briar Woods High School

10/14
7:00p
Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

10/21
7:00p
Centreville (Clifton, VA)
Game Details: Westfield High School

10/28
7:00p
@ Herndon (Herndon, VA)
Game Details: Herndon High School

11/4
7:00p
@ Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
Game Details: Chantilly High School

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CONCORDE SCHEDULES ()
Date: May 16, 2016 11:51PM

CONCORDE SCHEDULES Wrote:
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> Centreville:
> 9/2
> 7:00p
> Annandale (Annandale, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 9/9
> 7:00p
> @ Fairfax (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Fairfax High School
>
> 9/16
> 7:00p
> @ Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Broad Run High School
>
> 9/30
> 7:00p
> Lake Braddock (Burke, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> Oakton (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 10/15
> 1:00p
> Herndon (Herndon, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> @ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
> Rivalry Game
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> @ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
>
>
>
> Chantilly:
> 9/1
> 7:00p
> Woodson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
> 9/9
> 7:00p
> @ Lee (Springfield, VA)
> Game Details: Lee High School
>
> 9/16
> 7:00p
> Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
> 9/23
> 7:00p
> Herndon (Herndon, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
> 9/30
> 7:00p
> @ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> @ McLean (McLean, VA)
> Game Details: McLean High School
>
> 10/14
> 7:00p
> @ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> @ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
>
>
>
> Herndon:
> 9/1
> 7:00p
> Fairfax (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 9/9
> 7:00p
> Stuart (Falls Church, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 9/16
> 7:00p
> @ Falls Church (Falls Church, VA)
> Game Details: Falls Church High School
>
> 9/23
> 7:00p
> @ Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> South Lakes (Reston, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 10/15
> 1:00p
> @ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> @ Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> @ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
>
>
>
> Oakton:
> 9/2
> 7:00p
> @ Madison (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Madison High School
>
> 9/10
> 3:00p
> @ T.C. Williams (Alexandria, VA)
> Game Details: Williams, TC High School
>
> 9/23
> 7:00p
> Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
> 9/30
> 7:00p
> @ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> @ Centreville (Clifton, VA)
> Game Details: Centreville High School
>
> 10/14
> 7:00p
> Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> @ Falls Church (Falls Church, VA)
> Game Details: Falls Church High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> Herndon (Herndon, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
>
>
>
> Robinson:
> 9/2
> 7:00p
> West Springfield (Springfield, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 9/9
> 7:00p
> @ Woodson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Woodson High School
>
> 9/16
> 7:00p
> @ Lake Braddock (Burke, VA)
> Game Details: Lake Braddock High School
> Rivalry Game
>
> 9/23
> 7:00p
> @ Oakton (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Oakton High School
>
> 9/30
> 7:00p
> Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 10/14
> 7:00p
> @ Westfield (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> Herndon (Herndon, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> @ Broad Run (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Broad Run High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> Centreville (Clifton, VA)
> Game Details: Robinson High School
>
>
>
>
> Westfield:
> 9/1
> 7:00p
> Washington-Lee (Arlington, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 9/9
> 7:00p
> @ South County (Lorton, VA)
> Game Details: South County High School
>
> 9/16
> 7:00p
> T.C. Williams (Alexandria, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 9/23
> 7:00p
> @ Stone Bridge (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Stone Bridge High School
>
> 9/30
> 7:00p
> Oakton (Vienna, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 10/7
> 7:00p
> @ Briar Woods (Ashburn, VA)
> Game Details: Briar Woods High School
>
> 10/14
> 7:00p
> Robinson (Fairfax, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 10/21
> 7:00p
> Centreville (Clifton, VA)
> Game Details: Westfield High School
>
> 10/28
> 7:00p
> @ Herndon (Herndon, VA)
> Game Details: Herndon High School
>
> 11/4
> 7:00p
> @ Chantilly (Chantilly, VA)
> Game Details: Chantilly High School

Forgot to add Oakton vs. Tuscarora, @Oakton on 9/16

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dYKvX ()
Date: May 18, 2016 08:45AM

dYKvX

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: guy ()
Date: May 18, 2016 11:45AM

Don't sleep on falls church football this season

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: child pls ()
Date: May 18, 2016 01:17PM

and what makes Falls Church a team that no one wants to sleep on

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Adult pls ()
Date: May 18, 2016 01:39PM

Falls Church has three Soccer player's that have committed to play Football, their Kicking Game will be really strong this Year...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6a Fab ()
Date: May 18, 2016 03:13PM

Adult pls Wrote:
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> Falls Church has three Soccer player's that have
> committed to play Football, their Kicking Game
> will be really strong this Year...

I'd have to think Falls Church would be decent regardless of this. I'd think they would be easily in the top three in Conference 13, together with Wakefield and Marshall. It's hard to see Stuart, Lee, Edison, or TJ posing much competition.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Devon ()
Date: May 18, 2016 09:44PM

Falls Church is trash, Herndon fucked them up

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: child pls ()
Date: May 24, 2016 03:45PM

That conf 13 will be open withy anyone of them winning with the schools you have mentioned.

Stuart new coach so have to be better than last year
Lee another year better with new coach
Edison - something could be improving there
TJ is TJ
Marshall stop the fb dive
Wakefield - losing a lot more than you think
Falls Church - doesn't look imposing

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fairfax football ()
Date: May 25, 2016 11:20AM

I'm hearing great things about Mt. Vernon and their new staff - anyone know whats going on

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Blackhawk ()
Date: May 25, 2016 03:45PM

FUckFooTBall Wrote:
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> Wonder what would happen if we spent as much money
> as we do on football on books for kids who can't
> afford them...

They do. It's called the public library. They can get all the books they can carry.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: you cant be serious ()
Date: May 26, 2016 07:31AM

Mt Vernon, the great things your hearing about Mt. Vernon is coming from Mt. Vernon themselves and no one else. Stop writing your own press clippings, let alone reading them and passing them off on non suspecting folks

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTW Cavalier ()
Date: May 26, 2016 08:58AM

Great matchup Week 1. Woodson VS Chantilly. Who Wins?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Extra ()
Date: May 28, 2016 10:57AM

WTW Cavalier Wrote:
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> Great matchup Week 1. Woodson VS Chantilly. Who
> Wins?


How much do the Cavailers return? That's the big difference IMO

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bantasa ()
Date: May 28, 2016 11:36AM

Who gives a fuck about some niggers running up and down a field three months from now?
A few of them, although barely literate, will go on to play at some college where they will do what they want for four years, including doing no work, smoking dope regularly, and sexually assaulting women.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: May 31, 2016 03:01PM

Extra Wrote:
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> WTW Cavalier Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Great matchup Week 1. Woodson VS Chantilly. Who
> > Wins?
>
>
> How much do the Cavailers return? That's the big
> difference IMO


I agree. Normally, I'd call a game like this a blowout for Chantilly, but Chantilly is losing a lot from last year's class, and I think that gives Woodson a chance

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kp7Uh ()
Date: June 04, 2016 02:03PM

Kp7Uh

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Footballssss ()
Date: June 06, 2016 01:48PM

Falls Church has a Muslim coach and a decent football team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: foxobserver ()
Date: June 06, 2016 04:40PM

Footballssss Wrote:
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> Falls Church has a Muslim coach and a decent
> football team.

a) who cares and b) no

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 23A ()
Date: June 06, 2016 08:59PM

How is falls Church decent, they get destroyed everytime they play a team other than Stuart, Edison, TJ

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: viewer ()
Date: June 07, 2016 08:54AM

They didn't even look good in the tournament they hosted over the weekend. If anything Falls Church is overrated and wont win there conference.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: viewing ()
Date: June 07, 2016 12:14PM

Falls Church played us in the final of there own tournament over the weekend. Robinson ended up beating them 20-14.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: June 07, 2016 01:07PM

How did Robinson win a passing tournament? They only pass 2-3 times a game, right?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kaja ()
Date: June 07, 2016 01:46PM

What??? Wrote:
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> How did Robinson win a passing tournament? They
> only pass 2-3 times a game, right?


Those dont mean shit. no pass rush with 7 players running routes? LOL

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: viewer ()
Date: June 07, 2016 02:23PM

kaja Wrote:
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> What??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did Robinson win a passing tournament?
> They
> > only pass 2-3 times a game, right?
>
>
> Those dont mean shit. no pass rush with 7 players
> running routes? LOL

see how much you know its only 5 running routes QB and center don't count, lol

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kelli ()
Date: June 07, 2016 05:52PM

kaja Wrote:
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> What??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did Robinson win a passing tournament?
> They
> > only pass 2-3 times a game, right?
>
>
> Those dont mean shit. no pass rush with 7 players
> running routes? LOL

Must be a Falls Church player

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 08, 2016 09:18AM

kaja Wrote:
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> What??? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How did Robinson win a passing tournament?
> They
> > only pass 2-3 times a game, right?
>
>
> Those dont mean shit. no pass rush with 7 players
> running routes? LOL

Must be a Falls Church player

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They're just for show and in no way display anything other than the quality & speed of the skill players participating. You can have the best skill players in the county but if you can't block or tackle it doesn't matter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: June 08, 2016 02:05PM

Just Reported an hour ago, from the VA Pilot:

DeMatha Stags. Vs. Oscar Smith Tigers August 26th in Chesapeake, VA!!!! This should be a great test for both teams. New Head Coach Bill Dee, who won 4 State Titles @ Pheobus, will be tested in his fist game! FYI, the Tigers return virtually their whole team from 2015..

This Game was canceled just after Coach Morgan left town but Coach Dee apparently was able to get the game back.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: June 08, 2016 03:17PM

I'll take DaMatha and give 10.5

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: June 08, 2016 04:23PM

No Problem, these games can go either way.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 08, 2016 04:32PM

No Problem, these games can go either way.

__________________________________________________________________

Wish you the best of luck, this is going to be a very tough game. Having watched Dematha dismantle Westfield over the past 5 years in the preseason, the Stags are no ordinary private high school team. It's almost like playing a division 2 or 3 college team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tiger Pride ()
Date: June 08, 2016 05:11PM

Thanks, I am hoping that Coach Dee can make the difference. I believe his 4 State Titles @ Pheobus included 3 in a row. IF Smith can pull the upset, they MIGHT be saying Coach Richard, whoooooo?

AND I hope y'all meet vs Smith in Hampton in December. Big Rematches are always fun.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Game Time ()
Date: June 10, 2016 09:20AM

Having watched the steady procession of Dematha Athletes to elite Colleges and then the Pro's its like watching A D-1 college team...when you consistently place 10-15 athletes a year in big time D-1 Schools your insulting them by classifying them as a D-2, D-3 school. They do not simply have 1-3 elite athletes, they have 9-10 elite athletes on the field at any time. they have 2nd and 3rd string guys on the Bench that have Mulitiple D-1 offers...Smith will be challenged for certain. Both Teams However will be a lot better come Late October/November than August, as is evident by Westfields Success's following their early season pounding at the Hands of Dematha.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: recruiter ()
Date: June 10, 2016 09:27AM

http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings?State=MD

9 of the top 50 recruits in State of Maryland class of 2016 are from Dematha. 18% of top 50...and all are D-1 Commits.

when you Look at the Class of 2017, 2018, 2019 they have over 30 D-1 Prospects..with Multiple Offers...Football Factory!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fber04 ()
Date: June 10, 2016 03:24PM

Of course Dematha is a football factory as they should be, they get to openly recruit. Not taking a shot at them, just telling it like it is. Private schools should have their own separate ranking and public schools should have their own. Schools like Westfield and any other public school aren’t afforded the luxury to bring in kids from all over the area/country, unless you are a public school in other parts of the state where is transferring is rampant.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Edgar ()
Date: June 18, 2016 12:00PM

Moved to this area for work. Son is a very solid player.
Has the size, talent and grades to play at the next level.Can anyone tell me why Fairfax Division 5 schools are SO bad compared to Loudoun? Is it coaching? Demographics look pretty close, maybe Loudoun has more white kids, but they don't generally dominate high school football.
Let's be honest- colleges look longer and harder at kids from strong programs. Should we consider transfer? He has only been at Falls Church for one year, but seems like program is in decline.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Shakeys ()
Date: June 18, 2016 06:18PM

Edgar Wrote:
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> Moved to this area for work. Son is a very solid
> player.
> Has the size, talent and grades to play at the
> next level.Can anyone tell me why Fairfax Division
> 5 schools are SO bad compared to Loudoun? Is it
> coaching? Demographics look pretty close, maybe
> Loudoun has more white kids, but they don't
> generally dominate high school football.
> Let's be honest- colleges look longer and harder
> at kids from strong programs. Should we consider
> transfer? He has only been at Falls Church for one
> year, but seems like program is in decline.

Wakefield is the strongest division 5 school in football in the Capitol conference 13, which includes the division 5A North schools closest to DC. Marshall is second in that conference with Falls Church not far behind. Don't sleep on Falls Church, but if you must move and crave better div 5 football, Marshall and Wakefield are the only other viable options. If you move up to 6A football, all the other Fairfax and Arlington schools become options.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Edward Teach ()
Date: June 18, 2016 06:33PM

FUckFooTBall Wrote:
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> Wonder what would happen if we spent as much money
> as we do on football on books for kids who can't
> afford them...


Do you refer to the kids who walk in to first period with their free breakfast while texting on the latest model I phone?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A 13 ()
Date: June 19, 2016 08:36PM

well what other teams are in 13 that r bad, I thought wakefield wasn't that good, n then marshall also. there is noway they could be number 2, unless I'm totally missing something

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Coach Mackey ()
Date: June 19, 2016 09:03PM

5A 13 Wrote:
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> well what other teams are in 13 that r bad, I
> thought wakefield wasn't that good, n then
> marshall also. there is noway they could be
> number 2, unless I'm totally missing something

Wakefield has dominated the conference the last couple years or more. Marshall was close behind. Falls Church had a couple decent seasons, but was not as strong last year. All the other teams in conference 13 (Lee, Stuart, TJ, Edison) have been weak for years. Wakefield is the only conference 13 school that has played competitively against Loudon county teams, namely Potomac Falls. Wakefield won the conference title the last two years.

Overall there is better football among the 6A North schools, but Loudon has decent 5A and 4A football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6a fan ()
Date: June 20, 2016 10:34PM

5A 13 Wrote:
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> well what other teams are in 13 that r bad, I
> thought wakefield wasn't that good, n then
> marshall also. there is noway they could be
> number 2, unless I'm totally missing something


Before last season, Marshall was aligned in the old Liberty District that included 6a schools such as Fairfax, Langley, Madison, McLean, and South Lakes. TJ and Stonebridge were in that district as well. Marshall endured two consecutive winless seasons in that alignment. They got moved down to 5A, which is appropriate for their size, and now they have success. It was a good move for them, and they had a great 2015 campaign to show for it, but it also shows the disparity between 5A schools in Fairfax and 6A schools in Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A 13 ()
Date: June 21, 2016 10:13AM

Guess couple of kids do or can make that much of a difference

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Blah22 ()
Date: June 22, 2016 05:00PM

Very much agreed that, thank god that Fairfax got rid of head coach Kevin Simonds. Maybe they can get more than one win now.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: statistitian ()
Date: June 22, 2016 07:44PM

5A 13 Wrote:
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> Guess couple of kids do or can make that much of a
> difference

More than a couple kids made a difference. And more kids are coming out for football at the better 5A schools. The conference realignment helped immensely. Neither Wakefield, Falls Church, or Marshall won many games at all in the old districts. New coaching also helped.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A 13 ()
Date: June 23, 2016 09:06AM

Well my family is new to the area moving from Pennsylvania, for work and my daughter and son will be attending Jeb Stuart, both are active in sports with Baseball football and lacrosse and softball. Don't know much about them, but my son said they have a new coach that about it. Without knowing too much about them I just see they weren't very good last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: June 24, 2016 06:59PM

New enrollment numbers are out on the VHSL website and both Marshall and Stuart are getting bumped up to 6A starting in 2017. Edison missed out by one or two students. With the skyrocketing enrollments in Arlington, Wakefield is a lock to move up in the 2019 reclassification. Soon there may not be many "Northern Region" schools left in 5A.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: analyst ()
Date: June 24, 2016 07:34PM

football observer Wrote:
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> New enrollment numbers are out on the VHSL website
> and both Marshall and Stuart are getting bumped up
> to 6A starting in 2017. Edison missed out by one
> or two students. With the skyrocketing enrollments
> in Arlington, Wakefield is a lock to move up in
> the 2019 reclassification. Soon there may not be
> many "Northern Region" schools left in 5A.

The planned district groupings as approved by the VHSL will still likely hold together. So, the future District 5 with Edison, Falls Church, Jefferson, TJST, Lee, Marshall, Stuart, and Wakefield won't change. The district will just have both 5A and 6A schools. Now that Marshall and Wakefield are wining conference/district championships, they would not not want to leave to a more competitive district. Also, the other proposed 6A North districts are already full and no one is moving down in classification.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: KKh7e ()
Date: June 27, 2016 09:05AM

KKh7e

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: passeroffootballs ()
Date: June 27, 2016 09:14AM

Anyone have any interesting observations on the 7-7 tournaments at Oakton and Westfield? Uninteresting comments will do...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kkh7e ()
Date: June 27, 2016 03:11PM

Hayfield beat Falls Church in the final of the tournament at Westfield yesterday. Real football is right around the corner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: June 27, 2016 03:20PM

Kkh7e Wrote:
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> Hayfield beat Falls Church in the final of the
> tournament at Westfield yesterday. Real football
> is right around the corner.


Good for Hayfield. I thought they were losing a lot from last year's team, so this seems like good news for them for their upcoming season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Inside knowledge ()
Date: June 27, 2016 03:22PM

Blah22 Wrote:
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> Very much agreed that, thank god that Fairfax got
> rid of head coach Kevin Simonds. Maybe they can
> get more than one win now.


He wasn't fired, as this might imply, but he did step down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: boredparent ()
Date: June 27, 2016 03:45PM

I learned that Hayfield and Falls Church are pretty good at 7-7 football. I also learned that some high schools seem to take 7-7 a LOT more seriously than others.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: boredparent2 ()
Date: June 28, 2016 07:51AM

and probably neither one will win their respective conferences

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: liberty fan ()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:43AM

boredparent2 Wrote:
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> and probably neither one will win their respective
> conferences


Agreed. I look for South Lakes to win Liberty/Conference 6. I think Hayfield will do well, though.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 28, 2016 12:44PM

I learned that Hayfield and Falls Church are pretty good at 7-7 football. I also learned that some high schools seem to take 7-7 a LOT more seriously than others.

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Yep, Westfield lost early in the playoff round last year as well as the previous few years. It's nice for the skill position guys, also let's the coaches see what they've got coverage wise as well. But blocking & tackling always have been the primary fundamentals that wins football games. You can have all the skill in the world on offense, if you can't block you're not getting very far.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick Question ()
Date: June 28, 2016 01:32PM

Is Hayfield actually going to do anything this year? And what's the reason that Westfield or some other team don't come away with the 7v7 championship?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: boredparent ()
Date: June 28, 2016 02:01PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Yep, Westfield lost

Mr. Bulldog Booster - is Cockrill getting any D1 offers? He stood out to me more than almost any other player I saw all day.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 28, 2016 02:01PM

Is Hayfield actually going to do anything this year? And what's the reason that Westfield or some other team don't come away with the 7v7 championship?

______________________________________________________________________________

Not sure about the Hayfield question but I can take a stab at the Westfield one. They always have well coached teams, and a team is what wins, not individuals. Look at last years team, only 3 D1 athletes, two of the three not playing football at the next level. Scanlon is basketball(Boston University), Aiello wrestling(UVA). The only one playing football is Clancy(Navy), and he missed all but the first 4 or 5 games. Bottom line is skill positions help to win games but all the talent in the world typically doesn't beat coaching. Also, once again, if you can't block or tackle, you're probably not going to win too many games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 28, 2016 02:05PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Yep, Westfield lost

Mr. Bulldog Booster - is Cockrill getting any D1 offers? He stood out to me more than almost any other player I saw all day.

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No offers yet but this is his junior season. Word is he's destined to be a lineman at the next level. Either way he, Jewell, Frimpong, and Johnson will be the kids that eventually probably get offers. Petrillo is a lacrosse player so he's excluded from the discussion as far as football scholarships go.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the U91 ()
Date: June 28, 2016 02:06PM

Coach Henderson is doing a great job at Hayfield, they have to be the favorite to win the region this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: June 28, 2016 04:05PM

Absolutely cannot wait for this season guys. Gonna be really really crazy. Yes sir.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: notbriandelaney ()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:23PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Yep, Westfield lost
>
> Mr. Bulldog Booster - is Cockrill getting any D1
> offers? He stood out to me more than almost any
> other player I saw all day.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -------
>
> No offers yet but this is his junior season. Word
> is he's destined to be a lineman at the next
> level. Either way he, Jewell, Frimpong, and
> Johnson will be the kids that eventually probably
> get offers. Petrillo is a lacrosse player so he's
> excluded from the discussion as far as football
> scholarships go.

You missed one.
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Virginia-lands-commitment-No-11--45966402

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:35PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Yep, Westfield lost
>
> Mr. Bulldog Booster - is Cockrill getting any D1
> offers? He stood out to me more than almost any
> other player I saw all day.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -------
>
> No offers yet but this is his junior season. Word
> is he's destined to be a lineman at the next
> level. Either way he, Jewell, Frimpong, and
> Johnson will be the kids that eventually probably
> get offers. Petrillo is a lacrosse player so he's
> excluded from the discussion as far as football
> scholarships go.

You missed one.
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Virginia-lands-commitment-No-11--45966402

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Good for him.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hogans heros ()
Date: June 29, 2016 09:05AM

the U91 Wrote:
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> Coach Henderson is doing a great job at Hayfield,
> they have to be the favorite to win the region
> this year

they haven't advanced any further than their last coach took them, 1st round playoff exits

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scout ()
Date: June 29, 2016 09:26AM

Don't be surprised if Eckert, their most talented receiver, who got injured on the very first series of the very first pool play game, on a spectacular TD catch over 3 defenders gets more offers than anyone else on this years squad, VMI has offered him in Lacrosse, look for the Football offers to start rolling in mid- late October...6-4" deceptive speed 4.6, great vertical 30" Plus... great hands...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: June 29, 2016 10:32AM

Scout Wrote:
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> Don't be surprised if Eckert, their most talented
> receiver, who got injured on the very first series
> of the very first pool play game, on a spectacular
> TD catch over 3 defenders gets more offers than
> anyone else on this years squad, VMI has offered
> him in Lacrosse, look for the Football offers to
> start rolling in mid- late October...6-4"
> deceptive speed 4.6, great vertical 30" Plus...
> great hands...

Interesting to see you say this. I saw him play a number of times last year and I thought he was easily their best WR. Very consistent. Makes every catch. That being said there is no way he has 4.6 speed...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie Monster ()
Date: June 29, 2016 11:21AM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Scout Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't be surprised if Eckert, their most
> talented
> > receiver, who got injured on the very first
> series
> > of the very first pool play game, on a
> spectacular
> > TD catch over 3 defenders gets more offers than
> > anyone else on this years squad, VMI has
> offered
> > him in Lacrosse, look for the Football offers
> to
> > start rolling in mid- late October...6-4"
> > deceptive speed 4.6, great vertical 30" Plus...
> > great hands...
>
> Interesting to see you say this. I saw him play a
> number of times last year and I thought he was
> easily their best WR. Very consistent. Makes
> every catch. That being said there is no way he
> has 4.6 speed...


I had always thought Frimpong was their most talented receiver and that the off field things were just holding him back. Is Eckert seriously much better than him?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scout1 ()
Date: June 29, 2016 11:54AM

Eckert turned the fastest time of any Westfield athlete at SPARQ testing a few weeks back....he ran below a 4.7 which makes him a 4.6 guy True-AP

Eckert was the un-sung offensive Hero weeks 1-7 probably 1-10 last year

I do not care what intangibles you bring to the field or off-field if your not catching the ball as a WR. Eckert flat Catches the ball.

Frimpong may look the Part, Eckert is the Part!

Frimpong has a few offers currently, not taking away from his potential, it simply has not shown itself since freshmen year, he will play for someone though.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: June 29, 2016 02:37PM

Eckert turned the fastest time of any Westfield athlete at SPARQ testing a few weeks back....he ran below a 4.7 which makes him a 4.6 guy True-AP

Eckert was the un-sung offensive Hero weeks 1-7 probably 1-10 last year

I do not care what intangibles you bring to the field or off-field if your not catching the ball as a WR. Eckert flat Catches the ball.

Frimpong may look the Part, Eckert is the Part!

Frimpong has a few offers currently, not taking away from his potential, it simply has not shown itself since freshmen year, he will play for someone though.

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Agree with all of this, though Clancy played pretty well on offense till he was injured.

I do believe that Eckert is probably their most underrated player, that won't last once they start throwing the ball to him.

Also agree that Frimpong needs to step up, seems like a solid athlete but just hasn't set himself apart from the rest.

Just hope everyone stays out of trouble this year.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Boys of Fall ()
Date: June 29, 2016 04:40PM

Hayfield should be challenging for the conference title. They are loaded at skill positions with a big strong o-line and lots of athletes all over the field. If coached coached right the sky is the limit. I saw them at the Westfield tourney, looked impressive even though 7 v 7 means nothing when it comes to August through November. Someone said it right - if you can't block or tackle, you're probably not going to win too many games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: July 01, 2016 10:21AM

Enough about Westfield. Seems to me the big question of the fall season is: will this be the year that South County finally breaks through and wins a state championship? They were not quite there last year but I have to admire the program that has been put together in Lorton. There are improvements every single year and I think they are on their way to becoming a perennial powerhouse like Westfield and Stone Bridge.

They have a lot of talent returning this season: e.g. Dillon Spalding, Michael Salisbury, Christian Massie, Nate Avery, Garrett Reaves, etc…

SoCo wrested control of the Patriot Conference 7 from Lake Braddock last year and I don’t think they will give it up in 2016.

Thoughts?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kharma ()
Date: July 01, 2016 11:51AM

Until South County learns to Lose with Humility they will Never Win Anything..I bet Salisbury didn't show any of the Service Academies His Last Highlight from Last Year..that 15 Yard Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the last Play when he Leveled a Defenseless kid from Behind...Admire That in fact there were 2 such penalties on that Play, preceded by one of the worst player outburst in the Northern Region, just a few Plays early that lead to an ejection...CLASSLESS in LORTON...oh and LB is LOADED this Year...look for another 9-0 Matchup and LB Kicking the Stallion Ass!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Eff Westfield and SOCO and LB ()
Date: July 02, 2016 02:11AM

FUck all these teams, I like Herndon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton Madison ()
Date: July 02, 2016 01:37PM

Heard that Oakton really got burned last weekend at their own place (7v7). No QB or secondary per friend. Oakton will be beat by MADison this year, and Warhawks are taking the Liberty!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: July 03, 2016 02:25PM

Oakton Madison Wrote:
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> Heard that Oakton really got burned last weekend
> at their own place (7v7). No QB or secondary per
> friend. Oakton will be beat by MADison this year,
> and Warhawks are taking the Liberty!


This proves nothing. Football is still played in the trenches, and as I understand it, Oakton has two Offensive Linemen who have D-1 offers. Oakton doesn't have the same level of talent as Westfield, but they have a respectable program. I look for them to finish 4th in Concorde this year, behind Westfield, Centreville, and Robo, and ahead of Chantilly and Herndon.

Madison's best case for winning Liberty is their lower level programs were the most successful of all Liberty teams. But they lost a lot to graduation. I think South Lakes is the team to beat in Liberty this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Is Cville back in the mix? ()
Date: July 05, 2016 09:08PM

Understand that Centreville might be back in the mix this year as a competitive team. Not the same as a few years ago but better than last year and could give teams like Westfield and others a run for their money. What does anyone know about those rumors?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cokieiei ()
Date: July 06, 2016 01:33AM

Is Cville back in the mix? Wrote:
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> Understand that Centreville might be back in the
> mix this year as a competitive team. Not the same
> as a few years ago but better than last year and
> could give teams like Westfield and others a run
> for their money. What does anyone know about
> those rumors?

Westfield class of 18 and 19 seem to be some of their best classes in a while. I don't see CVille challenging them in any way.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: July 06, 2016 10:22AM

Is Cville back in the mix? Wrote:
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> Understand that Centreville might be back in the
> mix this year as a competitive team. Not the same
> as a few years ago but better than last year and
> could give teams like Westfield and others a run
> for their money. What does anyone know about
> those rumors?


Centreville certainly has some good players – RB JGarrett (offer from Army), DL CBrooks (UVA commit), QB JSiler, WR ICulver e.g. But they lost a lot of their best footballers (again) and wonder if they have enough of the grinders to rise to the top of the Concorde. They have great coaching and program though so can’t imagine they will have two losing seasons in a row.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what meant ()
Date: July 06, 2016 06:50PM

what do you mean Cville lost a lot of grinders - to graduation or to kids transferring to other schools?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fan ()
Date: July 06, 2016 07:29PM

Will be an interesting season for Centreville. With the rise of Robinson recently it's difficult for Westfield, Centreville, and Robinson to all be at the top since they all play each other. I don't think Westfield is going to drop off a whole lot the next few years. That leaves Centeville and Robinson battling for the other contender spot. Haddock is much more experienced than the guy at Robinson so you would think they would win a battle of equally matched teams. Look for Centreville to knock Robinson back to where they had been the past few years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: July 06, 2016 08:10PM

What meant? Just they lost via graduation a number of tough football players that aren't necessarily the flashy attention-getting types. From last year's squad I think of guys like RNewell, AHorner e.g.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what meant ()
Date: July 07, 2016 05:49PM

Seems like Robinson, Cville, Lake Braddock, SOCO, maybe West Springfield will duke it out with Westfield for region honors.....in other words sounds like business as usual.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Curious? ()
Date: July 07, 2016 09:59PM

Why is Falls Church's Muslim football coach brought up so much here? I mean who cares that he is Muslim!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Curious Troll ()
Date: July 08, 2016 08:17AM

Unless he is getting delay of game penalties for stopping to pray, who fucking cares what religion he is....your the same Troll that keeps bringing his religion up....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Curious? ()
Date: July 08, 2016 09:05AM

"You are"

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jango ()
Date: July 09, 2016 02:33AM

Can we please stop taking about Falls Church, there trash

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jango1 ()
Date: July 09, 2016 10:00AM

"They 're" or "They are"

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dixie cups 4ever ()
Date: July 09, 2016 06:47PM

Seems like Robinson, Cville, Lake Braddock, SOCO, maybe West Springfield will duke it out with Westfield for region honors.....in other words sounds like business as usual.



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I bet Braddock/SOCO/Centreville will come back strong this year and Westfield will rest on its laurels a bit esp since some of the returners are the dixie cuppers from last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Attach a File .... ()
Date: July 09, 2016 07:09PM

I saw RRS&E put out a pre-season Top 10 for NOVA:

Rank Team
1 Westfield
2 South County
3 Tuscarora
4 Robinson
5 Lake Braddock
6 West Potomac
7 South Lakes
8 West Springfield
9 Hylton
10 Wakefield

Why Tusky so high? As good as those Loudoun teams are they showed last year that they didn't have mettle play with the best of Fairfax - the top 4 from Fairfax last year got stronger and stronger (Wfd, SoCo, LB, Rob) as the year progressed while the Loudoun teams faded at the end giving up like 50 points per game.

Are Ellis, Miles and Muskett really that good to warrant their teams such a high ranking (WP, SL, WS)?

Does anyone think Hylton is really better than Battlefield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loudoun Fan ()
Date: July 11, 2016 02:13AM

Tusky is ranked that high because they are 20-0 over the past two regular seasons.

They lost a lot though, and it will really be a test for Burnett this year.

Fortunately for them, all of the top teams in Loudoun are down a bit this year.

Still, Attach a File, what are you talking about? None of the Loudoun schools

have over 1800 kids and they still beat the crap out of many of the Fairfax schools.

Ask Centreville how they enjoyed playing Broad Run and Tusky. I think they gave up 100 in the two games combined.

Take the 7000 kids that make up the top four Loudoun programs and combine them into three schools, and they roll every Fairfax team every year except maybe Braddock and Westfield.

Also, the pre-season top 10 is a joke. Wakefield? Ha - they lost to Broad run by more than 30 last year before fattening up against the God-awful Fairfax and Arlington D5 schools.

South Lakes would finish last if they played all of the Ashburn teams and Tusky.

West Springfield? Didn't they lost to the worst Briar Woods team in that school's history last year too?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fairfaxs Fan ()
Date: July 13, 2016 11:49PM

Loudoun sucks

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jango(3) ()
Date: July 15, 2016 03:17AM

Jango1 Wrote:
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> "They 're" or "They are"


We get it you're the coach for Falls Church how about instead of being so worried about what people say about your team you actually teach your players how to play

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Attach a File .... ()
Date: July 15, 2016 12:34PM

Loudoun Fan Wrote:
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> Tusky is ranked that high because they are 20-0
> over the past two regular seasons.
>
> They lost a lot though, and it will really be a
> test for Burnett this year.

That was sort of my point.


> Fortunately for them, all of the top teams in
> Loudoun are down a bit this year.


I don’t think so. Stone Bridge looks to be very strong this year – I would rank them #1 in Loudoun pre-season.


> Still, Attach a File, what are you talking about?
> None of the Loudoun schools
>
> have over 1800 kids and they still beat the crap
> out of many of the Fairfax schools.

Who cares about attendance? Are we talking about football or school membership? That is mostly irrelevant to the success of a football program. Smaller schools (ever hear of Loudoun County?) can do very well and larger schools frequently suck.


> Ask Centreville how they enjoyed playing Broad Run
> and Tusky. I think they gave up 100 in the two
> games combined.

BR and Tusky were fortunate to have caught Centreville in a rare losing season – they were nowhere near the best of Fairfax last year – if they had played them any of the previous four years the result would have likely have been the exact opposite. That being said it will interesting to see how Centreville does in the rematches this year.


> Take the 7000 kids that make up the top four
> Loudoun programs and combine them into three
> schools, and they roll every Fairfax team every
> year except maybe Braddock and Westfield.

Sure, maybe some years. But every year – I doubt it. Anyway, my point was that Westfield, South County, Lake Braddock and Robinson – the best of Fairfax county – were a step above any of the Loudoun teams last year. That is all I meant. Nothing more. And it’s just my opinion. I’d have no problem stating otherwise if I thought it was true. Apparently you don’t agree. And I don’t think attendance has much to do with it. The five Potomac teams in Loudoun probably have more kids going out for football than any five schools in Fairfax County.

Get tired of the smaller schools mantra: “Oh, look at us, we are so small but we still win, we are so special and that makes us doubly good.” “Oh, look at them – they are big school – of course they win, they deserve no credit at all; in fact, if they don’t win that makes them doubly bad.”

I just heard a lot last year about how much better Loudoun football was than Fairfax football and in the end I felt like the top 4 teams in the North were from Fairfax. Perhaps I will think differently after this coming season.

> Also, the pre-season top 10 is a joke. Wakefield?
> Ha - they lost to Broad run by more than 30 last
> year before fattening up against the God-awful
> Fairfax and Arlington D5 schools.

Agreed.

> South Lakes would finish last if they played all
> of the Ashburn teams and Tusky.

Agreed.


> West Springfield? Didn't they lost to the worst
> Briar Woods team in that school's history last
> year too?

They also faded at the end of the season. By then everyone figured out they were a one-trick pony.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Annandale Rules ()
Date: July 15, 2016 12:36PM

Coach Scott is taking Annandale all the way this year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: novafb ()
Date: July 16, 2016 07:56PM

Size does matter when it comes to football, there is a reason they have D5 and D6. Then you throw in the challenging demographics that some schools face and it makes it even more clear that schools like South County, Hayfield, South Lakes, WL and Yorktown are even more impressive with the cards they are dealt.

Westfield will be the team to beat in the region. CV even though well coached will struggle again this year. Their last two freshmen teams were not that strong. LB will be tough but somehow they always find a way to choke in the post-season. SoCo will be in the tops of the region, but they lost a lot from last year and their lower programs struggled recently. Robinson will be your typical power team and if they can mix in some passing, watch out for them. West Springfield will be down from last year but with their QB they should be above 500, real weak lower programs the last few years. West Po will be tough this year. For the life of me I can’t figure out how TCW is not successful. They have the largest enrollment in the area but yet can’t find a way to get the wins. Hopefully the new coach will find success.

In the Patriot, South Lakes has some athletes and are well coached, they could surprise some teams, they do have a weak out of conference schedule but should be challenging for the conference title along with Hayfield. Hayfield has a few transfers who should help out immediately, athletes similar to SL, strong lower programs the last 3 years which should put them in place right alongside of South Lakes fighting it out for the title. Madison won’t be nearly as strong as last year but are well coached and had strong lower programs last year. Yorktown may struggle some this year, weak lower program but are always well coached. WL could be the dark horse for the conference although their lower programs were way down last year, they do have a Gonzaga transfer that will help. McLean, Fairfax and Langley need to make some huge improvements to be in the mix for the conference.

It all starts with official practice in about two weeks

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nova sports reporter ()
Date: July 16, 2016 11:43PM

novafb Wrote:
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> Size does matter when it comes to football, there
> is a reason they have D5 and D6. Then you throw
> in the challenging demographics that some schools
> face and it makes it even more clear that schools
> like South County, Hayfield, South Lakes, WL and
> Yorktown are even more impressive with the cards
> they are dealt.


> In the Patriot, South Lakes has some athletes...


Your assessment makes no sense. The demographics of the schools you list aren't "challenging." (You also mislabeled them as being in the Patriot. Only South County is in the Patriot. The others are in the Liberty.)

First of all South County, South Lakes, WL and Yorktown all have substantial middle and upper middle class populations that generally fuel successful teams. Hayfield and South County have a lot of military kids and families which helps sports like football. Yorktown demographically is just like Madison and Langley, but with even more white kids. South Lakes was helped by the major boundary changes a few years ago that brought more athletes and more students into its neighborhood zone. W-L within the decade will likely be the largest school in the Northern Region with over 3,000 students. It'll be interesting to see if W-L regains the football power status it had from the 30s-70s when it was the largest school in the state. The D6 North Arlington high schools (W-L and Yorktown) might have issues with less kids coming out for football because of the concussion scare, but that's it. The wealthy, liberal parents in Arlington can be overprotective but the situation is not dire like in McLean where the JV team forfeited games.

The schools with real demographic challenges include Annandale, which lost its best athletes and middle class community support to devastating boundary changes in 2011, Herndon, which has a rapidly changing population, and D5 schools like Stuart, where most of the players have no prior football experience. TC Williams despite its large size, has yet to bring back the football glory of the 70s and 80s.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Doesn't Really Matter ()
Date: July 17, 2016 01:44AM

novafb Wrote:
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> Size does matter when it comes to football, there
> is a reason they have D5 and D6. Then you throw
> in the challenging demographics that some schools
> face and it makes it even more clear that schools
> like South County, Hayfield, South Lakes, WL and
> Yorktown are even more impressive with the cards
> they are dealt.
>
> Westfield will be the team to beat in the region.
> CV even though well coached will struggle again
> this year. Their last two freshmen teams were not
> that strong. LB will be tough but somehow they
> always find a way to choke in the post-season.
> SoCo will be in the tops of the region, but they
> lost a lot from last year and their lower programs
> struggled recently. Robinson will be your typical
> power team and if they can mix in some passing,
> watch out for them. West Springfield will be down
> from last year but with their QB they should be
> above 500, real weak lower programs the last few
> years. West Po will be tough this year. For the
> life of me I can’t figure out how TCW is not
> successful. They have the largest enrollment in
> the area but yet can’t find a way to get the
> wins. Hopefully the new coach will find success.
>
> In the Patriot, South Lakes has some athletes and
> are well coached, they could surprise some teams,
> they do have a weak out of conference schedule but
> should be challenging for the conference title
> along with Hayfield. Hayfield has a few transfers
> who should help out immediately, athletes similar
> to SL, strong lower programs the last 3 years
> which should put them in place right alongside of
> South Lakes fighting it out for the title.
> Madison won’t be nearly as strong as last year
> but are well coached and had strong lower programs
> last year. Yorktown may struggle some this year,
> weak lower program but are always well coached.
> WL could be the dark horse for the conference
> although their lower programs were way down last
> year, they do have a Gonzaga transfer that will
> help. McLean, Fairfax and Langley need to make
> some huge improvements to be in the mix for the
> conference.
>
> It all starts with official practice in about two
> weeks


I honestly don't think size really has a lot to do with success. Take Westfield for example. They just had their best year of athletics with 2600 kids, while in the past they had 3000+ kids consistently and one year they were at 3300, but they weren't really as good. Yes they lost a lot of athletes from their wealthiest feeder (Floris), but that doesn't seem to be a factor at all for them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: July 18, 2016 12:08AM

novafb Wrote:
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>
>
> > In the Patriot, South Lakes has some athletes and
> are well coached, they could surprise some teams,
> they do have a weak out of conference schedule but
> should be challenging for the conference title
> along with Hayfield. Hayfield has a few transfers
> who should help out immediately, athletes similar
> to SL, strong lower programs the last 3 years
> which should put them in place right alongside of
> South Lakes fighting it out for the title.
> Madison won’t be nearly as strong as last year
> but are well coached and had strong lower programs
> last year. Yorktown may struggle some this year,
> weak lower program but are always well coached.
> WL could be the dark horse for the conference
> although their lower programs were way down last
> year, they do have a Gonzaga transfer that will
> help. McLean, Fairfax and Langley need to make
> some huge improvements to be in the mix for the
> conference.
>
> It all starts with official practice in about two
> weeks


I would assess the prospects for Conference 6 way differently. First, I'd agree with you that South Lakes is probably the favorite to win. I would put Madison in second, on the strength of the success of their lower level programs, which were the most successful of all teams in conference 6. Hayfield, I believe, lost a couple of key players on offense, so I'm not sure that they will be contending. WL and Yorktown are well coached, but depth is an issue for them. WL in particular lost just about everyone, and their lower level programs last year were not successful. Fairfax and Langley had disappointing seasons last year. I think Langley's was an aberration, and they were a better team than their record indicated. Fairfax's problem last year was poor coaching, but that's been fixed. I do agree that McLean should struggle this year.

My prediction is

1. South Lakes
2. Madison
3. Hayfield
4. Langley
5. Fairfax
6. Yorktown
7. W-L
8. McLean

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region Football Fan ()
Date: July 18, 2016 08:01AM

I think you can divide up the best teams into a few subgroups.

Group A
Westfield
South County

Group B
Lake Braddock
Robinson
Battlefield

Group C
Centreville
West Springfield
South Lakes
West Potomac

Group A are the favorites. Group B teams have a chance. Group C teams could win a playoff game or two, but I don't think they will be good enough to win the region.
Out of the teams in group B Braddock and Battlefield appear to return a lot of talent. Robinson has put together a solid coaching staff and has a few players returning.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 18, 2016 03:49PM

VHSL Rankings are OUT. www.vhsl-reference.com Let the Debates begin:

Who's Over Rated?

Who's the surprise team that's under rated?

Who's already had significant injuries to affect their teams season?

Will Robinson use the forward pass?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Season ()
Date: July 18, 2016 04:19PM

757 Wrote:
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> VHSL Rankings are OUT. www.vhsl-reference.com
> Let the Debates begin:
>
> Who's Over Rated?
> South County

> Who's the surprise team that's under rated?
> Battlefield

> Who's already had significant injuries to affect
> their teams season?
> ??

> Will Robinson use the forward pass?
No and they may not need to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 18, 2016 04:38PM

OK

What Team Lost significant talent to transfers out?

What Team improved with transfers into their program?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FUCC the 757 ()
Date: July 18, 2016 05:14PM

Hey 757 fan get the fucc out of here - with a handle like that you represent a bunch of lying, cheating teams down there, what a joke should not even be in the VHSL. Glad teams like Westfield, Centreville, etc have kicked your team's cheating asses in past number of years. Hey lets all transfer to one school like Ocean Lakes or Oscar Smith and VHSL just turns their heads......what a punch of pussies

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: July 18, 2016 05:18PM

I agree, thanks for calling that out FUCC. whatever happens at states each year I consider the Northern Region rep to be the real state champ. Of course there is always funny biz with transfers around the edges even in the Northern Region but it is rampant in the 757. Cheaters delight down there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 18, 2016 06:35PM

Touchy aren't WE. Immature, insecure high school kids are funny. A little lesson in life: Excuses are for losers & no one cares! See y'all in Hampton in December, IF your mother lets you take the fan bus down here! In, the mean time, I'll know I can chime in here when I need a laugh or 2!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: July 18, 2016 07:47PM

another example, now they are having the 6A title in Hampton, 757 coaches must really be sucking VHSL dix....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: July 18, 2016 07:48PM

Who wants to go to rat infested Hampton to see a game, at least Charlottesville semi enjoyable and in the middle of the state....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 18, 2016 11:02PM

Complaints & Excuses: BUT Still Funny. Keep it coming! Not sure where the rat infestation reference for Hampton is going but VHSL MIGHT be rewarding the city for dominating State Championships from the area. Good luck in finding any locale that has won more football titles between Hampton HS & Pheobus HS. BUT your not old enough to have learned respect. That's clear!

BTW what are the alternative State Game sites in NOVA? No College Football teams, right? Maybe you have a nice soccer pitch or 2 but Football...... Come ON MAN, you got nuttin!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: July 19, 2016 08:59AM

What are you even on this forum for lol. Anyways, I also agree with the fact that the 757 are a bunch of cheaty McCheaters who will do anything and suck anything for a W. Y'all went through all that trouble and all that heartbreak, just to lose to a 703 team THAT PLAYED BY THE RULES. All that D1-bound assembly don't mean shit if you cannot produce results. I'm not a Westfield fan, but I can't lie, they deserved to win more than y'all did. And I pray to my God that the 703 takes it all home again this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Eddieee ()
Date: July 19, 2016 09:50AM

Centerville is done ...they should never ever be talked about on this,forum again..was been has been etc..they will never amount to anything but a bottom feeder team...coaches don't care,anymore and the players are a joke

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: July 19, 2016 10:07AM

Complaints & Excuses: BUT Still Funny. Keep it coming! Not sure where the rat infestation reference for Hampton is going but VHSL MIGHT be rewarding the city for dominating State Championships from the area. Good luck in finding any locale that has won more football titles between Hampton HS & Pheobus HS. BUT your not old enough to have learned respect. That's clear!

BTW what are the alternative State Game sites in NOVA? No College Football teams, right? Maybe you have a nice soccer pitch or 2 but Football...... Come ON MAN, you got nuttin!

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757, I've always enjoyed your insight and response on this board, you seem to be a well knowledgeable football fan and passionate about your team/teams. But now you're stooping to the level of those who began antagonizing you. Please don't stoop to their level, lets talk football and not sling insults.

Yes Hampton and Phoebus have had some power houses in the past. But to say the beach labeled schools have dominated high school football, at least over the past 17 seasons, is a stretch. If you look at the VHSL site and see what their final ranking are for 6A/5A since 1999 NOVA has had 9 teams finish #1, beach 8.

In class 6A dating back to 1999 NOVA has won the title 11 times, Beach 4, Central 2. In class 5A over the same period Beach has won 10 times, Central 6, NOVA 1. SO, that's a combined 14 titles for the Beach, 12 for NOVA, and 8 for Central. That's not domination, seems to be pretty damn close, I don't use 4A and down since there are not many 4A or lower schools in NOVA.

And to say we don't have any college football teams isn't exactly true. Though they're not in our state, the University of Maryland and Navy are only a little over an hour drive away. Since NOVA is considered to be party of the so called "DMV" & I'm not referring to the Department of Motor Vehicles for you smart asses, I'd say I'm not too far off in my logic.

Let's just stick to talking about football here on this thread and leave the insults elsewhere. To those who say anyone from the 757 has no business being on this board I think you're incorrect. Let's face it, it's typically NOVA vs. 757 in the championships so why not have some insight from our rivals on here afterall.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 19, 2016 02:35PM

It has been a while since Hampton's last State Title but no VA team can compare to what they accomplished.

2 High School Football National Championships (1996, 1997)
17 VHSL State football Championships {10 in AAA (1936, 1942, 1948, 1950, 1969, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1985); two in AAA Division 6 (1986, 1988); five in AAA Division 5 (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2005)}

Pheobus is in Hampton too:

7 seven VHSL State Division 5 Championships in 11 years, including five in six seasons and four straight (2001, '02, '06, '08, '09, '10, '11) I believe they were #4 Ranked team Nationally in 2010.


I am a Smith Homer. I couldn't be more excited about the upcoming season because, our new coach, Bill Dee, lead Phoebus to those above State Championships. BUT I realize they have a long way to go reach the level of Hampton.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Pedictions ()
Date: July 19, 2016 02:59PM

Westfield
Robinson
Centreville
Oakton
Chantilly
Herndon

Robinson upsets Westfield, and Herndon beats Chantilly (just like 2014). Centerville feeds on lower teams (Chantilly, Oakton, Herndon) but can't beat legitimate teams ( WF, ROBO). Oakton stuns ROBO, and beats lower teams, but is shamed against upper teams. WF dominates but loses to ROBO. Herndon has a shot against Tilly and Oakton.
Look for Westfield to dominate in playoffs and win another title but be careful for ROBO, always been a good team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: July 19, 2016 03:32PM

There have been reports of 757 schools like Smith, Ocean Lakes, Hampton, Phoebus, providing "scholarships" to players to come play at their schools. They just rotate each couple years. Why did the coaches of Smith and Ocean Lakes leave because they got found out and are getting ahead of any sanctions. Cheaters city down there. Everyone knows it, but no one in VHSL has any nut sacks to do anything about it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FUCC the 757 ()
Date: July 19, 2016 04:15PM

Yep, also heard they threw parties for the transfers, brought along hookers, everything. They treat these high school down there like college campuses. Really sad state of affairs. But still the Northern Region comes out on top most of the time. And by the way I do not give a shit about lower level Hampton High. The real football in VA is played at the 6A level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog2011 ()
Date: July 19, 2016 04:52PM

Concorde Pedictions Wrote:
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> Westfield
> Robinson
> Centreville
> Oakton
> Chantilly
> Herndon
>
> Robinson upsets Westfield, and Herndon beats
> Chantilly (just like 2014). Centerville feeds on
> lower teams (Chantilly, Oakton, Herndon) but can't
> beat legitimate teams ( WF, ROBO). Oakton stuns
> ROBO, and beats lower teams, but is shamed against
> upper teams. WF dominates but loses to ROBO.
> Herndon has a shot against Tilly and Oakton.
> Look for Westfield to dominate in playoffs and win
> another title but be careful for ROBO, always been
> a good team.


Robinson?? Who have they beaten in the past few years? Until they get some new coaches and better players they will continue to be pretenders.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: On The Rise ()
Date: July 21, 2016 01:43AM

Westfield Football is on the rise. I expect another phase similar if not better than 2002-2007 (Glennon Era). I think they will go undefeated atleast in the regular season these next 3 years (prediction based on Freshman and JV success).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 21, 2016 08:00AM

Westfield Football is on the rise. I expect another phase similar if not better than 2002-2007 (Glennon Era). I think they will go undefeated atleast in the regular season these next 3 years (prediction based on Freshman and JV success).

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That's a pretty bold statement, they might be good, but remember one thing. The Glennon era included 3 eventual professional football players and one almost. Mike Glennon, Evan Royster, and Eddie Royal, Sean Glennon bounced around in training camps but just never had the talent to be a pro.

The team Westfield currently has, and I follow them closely, seems to be lacking any potential future NFL stars. They've got some really good players but other than one of the best kickers in the country there are no 4 or 5 star players on that team.

Heck, look at last year, there was only one D1 player on that team. There were two other players that could have played college ball but more realistically at the FCS level. What you saw was a typical Westfield team, well coached and full of kids that could step in when needed and perform.

I think the talent of the other schools in the conference has taken a step backward, Chantilly, Oakton, and Centreville just were not that good, Herndon typically is awful. That's part of the reason that Westfield's program appears to be so strong. But they barely beat Robinson and struggled to put mediocre teams such as Centreville & South Lakes away.

When you look at the schedule from last year only South County, Stone Bridge, Robinson, Lake Braddock, and Oscar Smith were formidable teams, everyone else was mediocre to awful at best. I really think that had Westfield played Ocean Lakes and not Oscar Smith in the championship they would have lost. The Smith team was not as talented as in years past, they were just fortunate that Ocean Lakes played horribly and committed a ton of mistakes in their game against them.

No doubt that Westfield is the team to beat coming into this season, but I don't think they are going to dominate by any stretch. That doesn't mean I won't be hoping they do, I'm just trying to be realistic.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 21, 2016 06:46PM

"There have been reports of 757 schools like Smith, Ocean Lakes, Hampton, Phoebus, providing "scholarships" to players to come play at their schools. They just rotate each couple years. Why did the coaches of Smith and Ocean Lakes leave because they got found out and are getting ahead of any sanctions. Cheaters city down there. Everyone knows it, but no one in VHSL has any nut sacks to do anything about it."

Juvenile Rumours until proven otherwise.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 21, 2016 07:54PM

757 has a small penis until proven otherwise

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:22AM

I'm pretty comfortable with what I have. On the other hand, you have just told everyone on this board that you are quite worried about the inadequacy of your own genitals.

How you lash out at someone identifies your own biggest weaknesses and worries! VERY FUNNY! Keep it going. I'm enjoying this!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 07:31AM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: bulldog fan ()

Date: July 21, 2016 07:54PM


757 has a small penis until proven otherwise

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757, I hope you realize this was some high school idiot posting as me. You can see by my post above his that I obviously have a few more brain cells and am here to talk football not throw juvenile insults.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757' ()
Date: July 22, 2016 08:57AM

I know I have a small penis - that is why I need to talk on a Northern VA site about my teams in 757. I know they are cheaters but not so many people up here know so I have a free pass to spread lies and act like nothing bad goes on down there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:19AM

Hey 757 don't worry it is alright we at Westfield know about breaking rules too. We let the dixie cuppers play even though should have been suspended for whole year. We and your 757 teams know it is all about winning at all costs, that is what makes us great and makes all the other teams perennial losers. Ha Ha.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Refreshing opinion ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:46AM

Sort of new to VA and its football but wow this is good stuff. Like it when football teams just "own their approach." Cannot quibble with success of Westfield and 757 teams - if you have to cut corners to get there so be it. If you don't the other guy will. Would rather flout the law and win then be Herndon each year.

Go boys!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:16AM

The cheaters are so proud on this forum. What a world we live in.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: no doubt debbie ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:30AM

yep, teams like Oscar Smith, and Ocean Lakes, and Westfield should be ashamed - teaching all the wrong things.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:07PM

With the exception of the middle school trolls on this site, This board is a decent place to exchange info.

I have a pretty clear picture of what happened at O. Lakes and true respect for 757 football. Watch the "VICK" documentary & you'll get a pretty good idea of how a lot of kids fight through adversity to pull themselves up & into our American dream. With the exception of the Beach District, these kids have to fight for everything they get!

I respect the quality of football the Northern Region produces and I understand that for 90% of us, HS Football is just great entertainment. The Westfield vs Smith and the Centreville vs O. Lakes games were the greatest valued entertainment for $10 you can find around! I was sad for the Smith kids when they lost but as adult I was happy to have seen them over achieve and play at a very high level! Smith has to be the favorite to battle vs your Northern Region Champion in December & I look forward to the showdown!

Bottom line, I enjoy most of the exchanges with y'all, and I'm not going away

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dick Trickle ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:07PM

Westfield should be applauded for holding their players accountable and suspending them for the mandatory 30 days as per the Player participation agreement all Fairfax County athletes sign. The wounded Douche above, as the same low-fruit Concorde Dad is posting repeatedly, needs to worry about his own programs lack of success and what he may do to improve his woes. and who cares what the 757 is accused of doing... the Concorde District has represented itself very well over the last 15-20 years in the State Championship Category!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:11PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: no doubt debbie ()

Date: July 22, 2016 11:30AM


yep, teams like Oscar Smith, and Ocean Lakes, and Westfield should be ashamed - teaching all the wrong things.

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Please enlighten us on how Westfield cheated? They had 6 players who pictures of them at a party were forwarded to the head football coach. Mind you, not the admin but the head coach. He then contacts admin to inform them of what happened.

The team and school then take action and suspend all 6 players. Two of them for 15 days the other 4 for 30 days in accordance with VHSL league rules as it pertains to the situation.

The 6 players serve their suspension, one is eventually removed from the team based off of previous issues, the other 5 come back and the team wins it all. That's actually how it's supposed to be done. So please get your "facts" straight before you post.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Spartan Denizen ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:19PM

I had heard rumors of Westfield pulling some tricks like the 757 teams always do. Sorry to hear their win was tainted. Guess I now hope West Springfield does the same this year, why hold back with all of the shady stuff that seems to be going on amongst the so-called top teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: high school fanboy ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:36PM

Sorry to hear Westfield is now like the Beach Teams. Suspected that all along. I guess the world we live in is just not interested in playing it straight and winning for the right reasons.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Neutered Spartans ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:48PM

Struggling against Chantilly at Combo Camp does not Bode well for West Springfield Sorry, feel free to cheat all you want, your 5-5 at best. its a shame Muskett hasn't jumped ship and gone to a winning program where he could at-least get a ring by backing up their starter or maybe playing receiver.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lot of hate in this forum ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:58PM

Why all the hate here - sounds like a bunch of Trump supporters. Get a life and smell the roses instead of the turd piles once in a while.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hate? ()
Date: July 22, 2016 01:02PM

Just think, if we got rid of high school football it would save the county all kinds of money, it would do away with the meals tax debates and probably stave off an epidemic of football rape.

All of you people with this high school fixation are just plain sick.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dolla dolla bill yo ()
Date: July 22, 2016 01:47PM

Sorry, rape fixation, Football is the only sport that generates a positive cash flow...Your beloved county spenders will add millions of dollars of more debt by adding 1000's of new bathrooms for billy/Sheila/stand/sit when they must pee because well we all want to feel good! grow a set band boy!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Trump for Fuhrer ()
Date: July 22, 2016 01:52PM

When Trump becomes American Fuhrer all of the liberated stuff will be taking care of and no one will care if Smith, Lakes, Westfield cheat or not.

JUST WIN BABY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: oh please, please ()
Date: July 22, 2016 01:53PM

dolla dolla bill yo Wrote:
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> Sorry, rape fixation, Football is the only sport
> that generates a positive cash flow...Your beloved
> county spenders will add millions of dollars of
> more debt by adding 1000's of new bathrooms for
> billy/Sheila/stand/sit when they must pee because
> well we all want to feel good! grow a set band
> boy!

Demonstrate that football is cash flow positive-meaning that not ONE CENT of tax money is used for it. Otherwise, go spend the afternoon with Jerry Sandusky.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HEIL TRUMP ()
Date: July 22, 2016 01:55PM

Trump loves football, loves cheating, loves winners. All the rest go home, especially you LIBTARDS

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Haha tilly ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:06PM

Neutered Spartans Wrote:
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> Struggling against Chantilly at Combo Camp does
> not Bode well for West Springfield Sorry, feel
> free to cheat all you want, your 5-5 at best. its
> a shame Muskett hasn't jumped ship and gone to a
> winning program where he could at-least get a ring
> by backing up their starter or maybe playing
> receiver.


Are you upset that WS qb won all regional over your qb who was a senior??? He by far is the best QB in the region. It would seem like a Concorde thing to transfer to win more games - Not teaching our kids to fight through adversity.

On the contrary they had no trouble with tilly at any aspect of the game and actually looked very solid against WF in inside run. They have been very thin upfront the last two years and still won 17 games so not sure what you are referring to when you mentioned 5-5. They look much improved on the line and have two of the best skill players in the region among others.

SC makes too many mistakes, LB has the talent to win this year but have to get it done and Robinson is just too one dimensional. WF is the favorite but a lot can happen from now until December

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Haha tilly ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:08PM

15 games*

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton supporter ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:37PM

I am an Oakton guy true and tried so no love lost for them but it seems a lot of people are sleeping on Centreville. I saw quite a bit of talent last year on their team when we played them, with much coming back. Not sure if they are NR champs material but think they will likely stun some of the aforementioned WF, LB, SOCO, WSp, etc. along the way.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:41PM

Are you kidding me, Centreville sucks - their glory days are long gone

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:45PM

There is rampant misuse of names on this site - pissing me off. I am a Westfield fan of course but all due respect to Centreville for their strong history of success. Don't expect this years game with them to be a cakewalk either - always have incredibly competitive games with them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:49PM

Nope, Cville sucks!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:49PM

screw you, you little troll

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:52PM

Westfield sucks too

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Heil Trump ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:56PM

In Trump's world, people that use fake names will be executed in the streets

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Heil Football ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:00PM

757 and Westfield show that winning is everything, does not matter how many rules to break. Just win baby

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: oh please, please ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:05PM

Really, this is all idolatry

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Revenge is sweet ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:10PM

Wherever you are, Dillon Spalding, just know that me and my teammates are gonna crush you like the oversized fly that you are.

- A Happy Camper :)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 22, 2016 04:06PM

The whole generalization of 757 & Cheating is tiresome & ignorant. There WAS O. Lakes which was caught recruiting players. Nearly 70% of players transferred into that program. 2015 State Title should have been forfeited. (my opinion)

Smith on the other hand has had transfers, no question. But recruiting was never a part of their program. I seriously doubt their transfer rates are as high as your leading NOVA football schools are experiencing.... Nearly as many players LEFT Smith over the years as came into their program because few can withstand the rigours of the Tiger's practices. Last year they had 3 Div 1, All Tidwater players which were 2 & 3 star recruits transfer out of the program. AND, There are middle school, club team coaches that push their studs to I. River, O. Lakes and now to Bishop Sullivan & Chris Scott who continues to recruit these kids away from Smith and O. Lakes because Smith won't participate Quid Pro Quo games with those coaches! BUT most times the players that leave aren't part of the TEAMme concept. They point fingers at each other, argue during games & cause chaos within the team.

Again, y'all don't understand the demographics of our area. What happens in VA Beach vs South Norfolk area of Chesapeake is totally different. That's what I'm here for even though it's easier to fear us & accuse us of cheating. That's the easy way out, to look for excuses. Remember, Smith plays ANY Nationally Ranked, Recruiting team they took down O. Lakes @ #6 last year & have the opportunity to ruin DeMatha's year come Aug. 26. Win or lose at least Smith WANTS to play these types of games EVERY year. Those game are electric and your missing out on a great way to start the season!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TSD2lk ()
Date: July 22, 2016 07:42PM

What all this talk about Westfield cheating? They almost never have any transfers and they suspend kids for petty violations religiously - even their best players. Stupid trolls.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I will say ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:36PM

Although WF has tons of shady players and lets many of them escape with pretty easy punishments all this talk of them recruiting players or recruiting and such is total BS. As far as I'm concerned only a few schools in FFx country do that, Madison Baseball being the most widely known one.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield cheatz ()
Date: July 23, 2016 10:14AM

Interesting to see the revelations about Westfield cheating finally coming out on this site. About time people realize what is going on over there. Been a long term problem. Clean it up!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Football Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 10:58AM

You guys are nuts. Westfield might be the classiest program in the area. I don't like them either, but they do things the right way for the most part. Lake Braddock & South County on the other hand seem to always have a transfer or two showing up each year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO salute ()
Date: July 23, 2016 12:16PM

I agree, Westfield pulls some crazy shit, should be an investigation.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 01:10PM

I think Westfield is great, just great - stop all the lies, you bad people. I don't care what you say, Westfield is great, just great. I don't believe all the accusations, don't believe them. Stop you haters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: j9YKD ()
Date: July 23, 2016 01:28PM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> I think Westfield is great, just great - stop all
> the lies, you bad people. I don't care what you
> say, Westfield is great, just great. I don't
> believe all the accusations, don't believe them.
> Stop you haters.

There are no accusations, there are no rumors. Period. At all. Just 1 disgruntled Centreville troll repeating generic statements that don't even refer to anything specific.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 03:42PM

Sorry to pop your pimple but not everyone is from Centreville. Interesting how you are so fascinated with Centreville when there are plenty of other teams that know what is going on at Westfield too.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fanbase ()
Date: July 23, 2016 03:43PM

I am assuredly not a Centreville fan either but I have my doubts about all the stories I hear about Westfield too.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 03:59PM

Concorde Fanbase Wrote:
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> I am assuredly not a Centreville fan either but I
> have my doubts about all the stories I hear about
> Westfield too.


Well can you name a major contributor on the team that was possibly recruited?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fanbase ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:07PM

Don't need to - with violations and beer parties and all the stuff going on over there wins are all tainted. Veneer of a good program is lost when you dig just a little deeper over at Westfield. Westfield fans have drunk the koolaid so they of course try to explain all the transgressions away. I heard there was some stuff at Centreville and Robinson and Braddock in years past too but I Know it is all much worse at Westfield.

Time to call a spade a spade.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:09PM

You got nothing on us, I can attest it is a great program, great program. Stop making up lies against our boys.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fanbase ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:13PM

By the way there was a lot more to the beer party incident last year than has met the press. Major contributors to the championship team, some of which coming back this year, were let off very easy compared to what should have happened based on their actions. Sorry to see the idolatry for the sake of championships that Westfield has stooped to. Actually good to see that Robinson, Centreville, Lake Braddock others running pretty clean programs. Hope one of them socks it to the suspect Westfield program this year. Time for some comeuppance.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:15PM

screw you buttwipe - it is a great program, great program. We are clean I tell you, clean. Westfield forever, we are the best, I refuse to believe otherwise, we are the best, we are a clean program....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fanbase ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:22PM

Wow Bulldog Fan, talk about a Kool Aid drinker, you take the cake. Maybe you were there with the boys handing out the dixie cups at the parties?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:25PM

Stop the lies Concorde Fanbutt - we are a great team, and school, and program. Glory glory hallelujah, glory glory hallelujah - Westfield is awesome, we do it right, we are above petty lies. The truth goes marching on....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Fanbase ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:26PM

Wow another dixie cup provider - maybe you were stroking the beer tap and a few 17 year boys underpants at the party along with your other Westfield BOOSTERS.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO Salute ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:27PM

Wow this site all of a sudden got interesting again, must be football season!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO Salute ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:28PM

Although gotta say - seems as if the Westfield fans are holding on to that trophy a bit too tight. Take a chill pill folks, you are not THAT good.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:33PM

SOCO Salute Wrote:
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> Although gotta say - seems as if the Westfield
> fans are holding on to that trophy a bit too
> tight. Take a chill pill folks, you are not THAT
> good.


40-0.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:35PM

Sorry forgot to say that 0 means my penis size

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:35PM

And by the way I am the real dixie cup provider, what are you going to do about it, ha?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dixie cup delight ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:46PM

Hey fellow Westfield Football Playazs - since season is getting close we only have a few more weeks to continue our fun and games. Dixie Cup training sessions to be held July 29/30 at the homes of (you know - our special Football Booster parents) so make your plans now. If we get caught now, no big deal, it will all be taken care of before the real challenging games start in October and beyond anyway. Join the proud tradition of those that came before you, flout the rules, have fun, and still feel good about yourself when you win (heck the parents don't mind, they care more about football wins than the players anyway). I love my life as a Bulldog.

Signed, all of us who got away with this in years past (let us be your mentors this year)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO Salute ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:54PM

Funny post dixie cup delight - gets to the heart of the lunacy over there at Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:09PM

you guys suck

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfieldfootballhistorian ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:50PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Concorde Fanbase Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am assuredly not a Centreville fan either but
> I
> > have my doubts about all the stories I hear
> about
> > Westfield too.
>
>
> Well can you name a major contributor on the team
> that was possibly recruited?


They have had 2 public school transfers and 1 private school transfer at Westfield in the 5 seasons since Simmons took over as head coach. Scanlon was the only one of any significance and he really transferred to play basketball (and it was his local public school anyway). The last real impact transfer was under Verbanic - Jordan Anderson in 2008.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dixie cup delight ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:56PM

Not talking about transfers all you Westfield mommies - talking about the long line of cover ups with alcohol, drugs, and other miscreant behavior there. Inmates started running the asylum long ago at Westfield and the parents just go along for the ride like ostriches with heads in the sand.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Reality deluxe ()
Date: July 23, 2016 06:34PM

Chantilly dad here, good to see someone finally has the nuts to call out Westfield and its party culture.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wtf8767 ()
Date: July 23, 2016 06:53PM

why the hell does TJ only play 9 games? 4 of which against random schools..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Former Fcps Student ()
Date: July 23, 2016 11:01PM

Straight up, all of you who comment on this page that are flabbergasted by high school kids drinking alcohol clearly had an extremely dull social life growing up. EVERY school in Fairfax county throws parties that involve drinking and if you deny that than clearly you don't pay enough attention to your child's social habits. Every school has had their drinking violations the difference is Westfield came back and won. Usually after the mandatory 30 day suspension on the first offense, the team falls apart. By the way , if you read the Fcps handbook the first offense for alcohol is 30 days. No more, no less. Westfield players received 30 days. It's highschool, you give kids the opportunity to learn and have a second chance, not just hand out the death sentence. Every school drinks, it's high school: difference is Westfield was dumb enough to treat a party like a freakin photo shoot. Hope this cleared up some things for you convoluted and confused Haters that act like Westfield is the only school that "Dixie cups". Every school is guilty.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 24, 2016 01:53PM

For those of you that want to leave the trolls behind on this board, y'all might consider... https://virginiapreps.forums.rivals.com/

The 4A Fall message board is pretty active for the central / Southwest point of view with long term members. I post some stuff for 6A for the Southside area. BUT truthfully, it's been kinda dead compared to other areas of the country & considering we are within a month of live action now!

NOVA football, come represent yourselves!

It's a membership forum so the anonymous crap that gets posted here won't be tolerated! If your not respectful, you're banned off the sight. Don't get me wrong, this message board is entertaining & funny, but only to remind myself what I was like when I was 13, 14 & 15 years old!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: quoteoftheday ()
Date: July 24, 2016 04:22PM

NR Football Fan Wrote:
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> You guys are nuts. Westfield might be the
> classiest program in the area. I don't like them
> either, but they do things the right way for the
> most part. Lake Braddock & South County on the
> other hand seem to always have a transfer or two
> showing up each year.

Is the Hayfield QB that transferred to Braddock expected to start?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LongtimeNRFan ()
Date: July 25, 2016 08:27AM

I am not an advocate of any particular team, just a long time area football fan. I have to say I have heard through cronies (just like some of the other posters) that there is continual monkey business going on at Westfield with covering up stuff like last year's beer party. Much more under the covers that does not come to light. Sorry to hear as they seem to play some good football most of the time but it is built on a shaky ethical foundation over there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FCPS UNDERCOVER ()
Date: July 25, 2016 08:56AM

Welcome to high school Morons, what would High School be with out Monkey Business. go polish your trophies and mind your own house....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WFapilogis ()
Date: July 25, 2016 11:27AM

Seems like a bunch of Westfield apologists on this site....must have been kool aid and beer served in the Dixie cups!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: July 25, 2016 12:14PM

Stop you bad people, Westfield is great I tell you - just great!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: DIckhead WSHS fan ()
Date: July 25, 2016 08:26PM

Haha tilly Wrote:
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> Neutered Spartans Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Struggling against Chantilly at Combo Camp does
> > not Bode well for West Springfield Sorry, feel
> > free to cheat all you want, your 5-5 at best.
> its
> > a shame Muskett hasn't jumped ship and gone to
> a
> > winning program where he could at-least get a
> ring
> > by backing up their starter or maybe playing
> > receiver.
>
>
> Are you upset that WS qb won all regional over
> your qb who was a senior??? He by far is the best
> QB in the region. It would seem like a Concorde
> thing to transfer to win more games - Not teaching
> our kids to fight through adversity.
>
> On the contrary they had no trouble with tilly at
> any aspect of the game and actually looked very
> solid against WF in inside run. They have been
> very thin upfront the last two years and still won
> 17 games so not sure what you are referring to
> when you mentioned 5-5. They look much improved on
> the line and have two of the best skill players in
> the region among others.
>
> SC makes too many mistakes, LB has the talent to
> win this year but have to get it done and Robinson
> is just too one dimensional. WF is the favorite
> but a lot can happen from now until December

Tammaro didn't transfer, he waited his turn. WSHS is absolute trash and wouldn't last shit in the concorde. Chantilly would have shit on them this past year and destroyed them in camp this past month. sit back, relax and roll tilly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: AggieFan ()
Date: July 26, 2016 09:04AM

Question to all: Where did Kyle Edwards end up signing? DeAndre Clayton seems to have landed at Clarion State, but Edwards is MIA. Great games between those two the last two years....exactly what high school rivalries are all about.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rolling road ()
Date: July 26, 2016 02:04PM

DIckhead WSHS fan Wrote:
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> Haha tilly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Neutered Spartans Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Struggling against Chantilly at Combo Camp
> does
> > > not Bode well for West Springfield Sorry,
> feel
> > > free to cheat all you want, your 5-5 at best.
>
> > its
> > > a shame Muskett hasn't jumped ship and gone
> to
> > a
> > > winning program where he could at-least get a
> > ring
> > > by backing up their starter or maybe playing
> > > receiver.
> >
> >
> > Are you upset that WS qb won all regional over
> > your qb who was a senior??? He by far is the
> best
> > QB in the region. It would seem like a Concorde
> > thing to transfer to win more games - Not
> teaching
> > our kids to fight through adversity.
> >
> > On the contrary they had no trouble with tilly
> at
> > any aspect of the game and actually looked very
> > solid against WF in inside run. They have been
> > very thin upfront the last two years and still
> won
> > 17 games so not sure what you are referring to
> > when you mentioned 5-5. They look much improved
> on
> > the line and have two of the best skill players
> in
> > the region among others.
> >
> > SC makes too many mistakes, LB has the talent
> to
> > win this year but have to get it done and
> Robinson
> > is just too one dimensional. WF is the favorite
> > but a lot can happen from now until December
>
> Tammaro didn't transfer, he waited his turn. WSHS
> is absolute trash and wouldn't last shit in the
> concorde. Chantilly would have shit on them this
> past year and destroyed them in camp this past
> month. sit back, relax and roll

I thought LB and WS beat robo who beat tilly twice last year? Hopefully tilly will make it over .500 this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LB Fan ()
Date: July 27, 2016 10:05AM

Bridgewater

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: AggieFan ()
Date: July 27, 2016 10:37AM

Thanks. Bridgewater is a bit of a surprise. He may eat the ODAC alive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 28, 2016 10:34PM

I'm baaaack. VAPrep just posted their preseason Top 10 for 6A Football today... Overall makes more sense than VHSL Reference's Poll. Of course, I like that Smith is on Top. They lost only a handful of Seniors & only a couple of them were seniors! But as I've said before, let's see how things play out.

Childish responses are expected on this message board but let's see if anyone wants to debate the rankings ON VAPreps?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 28, 2016 11:24PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tntbe ()
Date: July 28, 2016 11:25PM

Well, I can't argue with ranking OS #1. But with only OS and Woodside in the Top 10 that leaves the 757 rather short. I guess they are not expecting much from Ocean Lakes this year but will they really drop off that much in one season?

I like their rankings overall ... but I sort of doubt Centreville will be a Top 10 team this season so I think they are too high. I was pretty sold on them being a top 5 team last year and they proved me very wrong.

Westfield lost a number of key ingredients to last year's SC team but they do have a lot of talent returning e.g. Delaney (Sr)-K/P, Frimpong (Sr)-WR, Eckert (Sr)-WR, Johnson (Sr)-QB, Jewell (Sr)-DE, Petrillo (Sr)-LB, Cockrill (Jr)-TE/DL. I think the only question in my mind is how strong they will be in the trenches. They pretty much have to replace their entire offensive and defensive lines.

Will this be a year that LB or SOCO represent the North in the state title game? Hasn't happened since LB in 2009.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 12:37AM

With Ocean Lakes decimated by transfers to Bishop Sullivan, Smith's main Rivalry will likely shift to Western Branch & Grassfield. Both Teams had the opportunity to pull off upsets against Smith last year. But Matthew Hatfield conducts coaches' surveys which likely revealed that too many key players graduated for those teams to take another run at the Tigers. If a 6A South challenge will come, I think it will be from Western Branch but they are transitioning out of the Wing T that gave Smith fits last year.

There is the possibility that a Beach District Team could be the suprise team for 6A South. Cox, Bayside, Kellam & Landstown all have about an equal chance to be that team, but I think Salem will run the District as a 5A. Colonial Forge is well Coached & always has good talent & beat O. Lakes in 2013. But, they won't play Smith until late in the playoffs.

So yeah, 757 overall doesn't appear to be the match against NOVA Teams. Because of that, I'd like to see some of the 804 Power Teams vs 757 Power Teams play during the regular season. 6A North Teams are more battle tested by the end of the year. I don't think it's even debatable.

If Smith plays DeMatha well on Aug 26th, 6A will be put on notice.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: AggieFan ()
Date: July 29, 2016 08:05AM

SOCO made the state finals in 2012.....unfortunately lost to Phoebus.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 01:06PM

I secretly am the one posting all the childish responses - just trying to mess with the Northern Teams. Plus I have a small dick.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: AggieFan ()
Date: July 29, 2016 01:23PM

StallionNation welcomes all (non-vulgar) comments and insights.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: July 29, 2016 02:07PM

Oscar SMith. I have only seen Shon Mitchell play twice. Vs. Centreville and then Westfield. He obviously has a great arm and athletic ability. But it seemed to me that whenever a play broke down or didn't develop the way excpected his decision making was very suspect. How good is he really? Will he play in 3 championship games in his high school career? Has any VA QB every done that?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 03:26PM

Not sure but there's good chance Tahj Boyd @ Pheobus did. They won 3 or 4 State Titles in a row with Bill Dee (now at Smith) as their coach. Back in the 80's & 90's Hampton won several State Titles in a row so, it's likely their quarterbacks played in 3 or 4 championships!

As for Shon Mitchell, I'd have to agree that when he's in trouble that he doesn't look too confident with his run attempts or escaping. But, he really doesn't fumble the ball away & I believe he's been taught to get down & not get hurt so Smith can just get the yards back on the next play. I hope Smith puts some run option plays in their playbook for 2016 because he CAN run when he wants to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 04:16PM

I must confess no one gives a shit about the beach/757 cheatazs but me but I have a compulsive need to keep on talking about them up here in Northern Region. And again I must admit - my dick is VERY small.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 04:30PM

I have man boobs too, sorry forgot to say that earlier

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 29, 2016 06:17PM

Not sure but there's good chance Tahj Boyd @ Pheobus did. They won 3 or 4 State Titles in a row with Bill Dee (now at Smith) as their coach. Back in the 80's & 90's Hampton won several State Titles in a row so, it's likely their quarterbacks
played in 3 or 4 championships!

As for Shon Mitchell, I'd have to agree that when he's in trouble that he doesn't look too confident with his run attempts or escaping. But, he really doesn't fumble the ball away & I believe he's been taught to get down & not get hurt so Smith can just get the yards back on the next play. I hope Smith puts some run option plays in their playbook for 2016 because he CAN run when he wants to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Regis ()
Date: July 29, 2016 09:29PM

If I am not mistake Trace McSorley took Briar Woods to four state championships. Winning the first three; losing his last as a senior.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 30, 2016 07:45AM

So just as we thought, Shon Mitchell is good but not great.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 30, 2016 08:32AM

Shon won't let me give him blow jobs anymore so I will talk smack about him. Have to find some other cute 757 boy to cuddle up to, any number of boys down there that follow corrupt adults when it comes to football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 30, 2016 10:44AM

So just as we thought, Shon Mitchell is good but not great.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 30, 2016 01:43PM

But he was great in bed, we had lots of fun together since I am such a 757'er and a 69'er

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: July 30, 2016 05:10PM

VaPreps.com Class 6A Preseason Top Ten

Rank Team 2015 Record
1 Oscar Smith 13-1
2 Westfield 14-1
3 South County 13-1
4 C.D. Hylton 9-3
5 Lake Braddock 11-2
6 Centreville 4-7
7 Colonial Forge 9-2
8 Battlefield 9-3
9 Woodside 7-4
10 Robinson 9-4

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 01, 2016 09:04AM

As you can see this year all the cheataz have congregated again in Oscar Smith. Famous practice in the 757 boyzzzzzz.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 01, 2016 09:53AM

Gameday has a brief synopsis of some coaches comments from their media day - which btw was a total fail because I could not get the audio to work on any of my devices.

http://mvp.gamedaymagazine.com/members/media/the-gameday-broadcast-network-held/

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldogsbulldog ()
Date: August 01, 2016 01:08PM

Looks like Stone Bridge will be the class of the Northern Region this season. They will throttle Westfield in their home game and then roll to the state championship game for an 8th time. Loudoun County rulz!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cooking ()
Date: August 01, 2016 02:49PM

bulldogsbulldog Wrote:
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> Looks like Stone Bridge will be the class of the
> Northern Region this season. They will throttle
> Westfield in their home game and then roll to the
> state championship game for an 8th time. Loudoun
> County rulz!


I'm pretty sure Westfield won 28-7 without those 6 kids. What makes you think the result will be different this time?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldogsbulldog ()
Date: August 01, 2016 05:06PM

Stone Bridge has almost the entire defense back from state finalist team. Westfield coach says defense isn't going to start season strong. Stone Bridge meets Westfield early. Tusky coach already talking about NEXT year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the end could be near ()
Date: August 01, 2016 05:08PM

If taxes go up too much more (including the meals tax) then residents will vote in a whole new leadership team. One thing that team might do is eliminate football. Football, for better or worse, is expensive and exclusionary (girls can't play), and other school districts have abolished it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Old taxpayer ()
Date: August 01, 2016 05:31PM

If you ever get the chance to read the school budget I suggest you take a look at. All athletics expenses are less than 2% of the budget. Football is not even the most expensive sport. Swimming is much more expensive. The money saved each year from cutting football might buy each FFX County taxpayer a cheeseburger at McDonalds. I think that money is much better spent giving some kids a chance to be apart of something that may make a difference in their lives. I know I'd gladly support all athletic and club expenses. For a lot of kids they get much more of of those than any class.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 01, 2016 05:53PM

Simmons is about the least optimistic coach at the beginning of the season that I've heard. Sounds like he thinks they're rebuilding, not reloading in 2016. NOVA Teams must be lickin their chops to get at them!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 01, 2016 06:13PM

August 12th Scrimmage: South County vs Western Branch in Chesapeake, VA. The Bruins nearly beat Smith last year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 01, 2016 06:13PM

I still like the Beach and Tidewater teams and I still have a little penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 01, 2016 06:40PM

Simmons is about the least optimistic coach at the beginning of the season that I've heard. Sounds like he thinks they're rebuilding, not reloading in 2016. NOVA Teams must be lickin their chops to get at them!

_________________________________________________________________________

Have you ever seen him speak before? He's like that week in and week out, year in and year out. He could have the players DeMatha has and still carry himself that way. He's just low key, all the time, unusual for a football coach. He's got plenty of talent, his offense will be much better than last year. Defense might not be as good but will still be one of the best in the Region. Think they'll be just fine....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 01, 2016 07:07PM

August 12th Scrimmage;South County vs Western Branch in Chesapeake, VA. The Bruins nearly beat Smith last year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 01, 2016 08:22PM

Remember all you Westfield players - we still have room for the dixie cup fun this weekend at the secret location you all know about.....no worries - still way too early in the season so even if you get caught won't make any difference as a little slap on the wrist never hurt anyone.

JOIN IN ON THE DIXIE CUP FUN - A WESTFIELD TRADITION LIKE NO OTHER

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield RULEZ ()
Date: August 01, 2016 08:36PM

Funny post - yep we do get away with a lot. But winning is the only thing that matters, does not matter if we have some transgressions along the way.

WINNING!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Many are back ()
Date: August 01, 2016 08:50PM

Aren't many of the dixie cuppers from Westfield back again this year? Wonder what type of shit they will pull this year now that they think they are all that because the Westfield parents are licking their butts for them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: minor problem ()
Date: August 01, 2016 10:03PM

Old taxpayer Wrote:
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> If you ever get the chance to read the school
> budget I suggest you take a look at. All
> athletics expenses are less than 2% of the budget.
> Football is not even the most expensive sport.
> Swimming is much more expensive. The money saved
> each year from cutting football might buy each FFX
> County taxpayer a cheeseburger at McDonalds. I
> think that money is much better spent giving some
> kids a chance to be apart of something that may
> make a difference in their lives. I know I'd
> gladly support all athletic and club expenses.
> For a lot of kids they get much more of of those
> than any class.

Explain football to my daughter, who is not allowed to play. Since she's completely cut out for some stupid reason, I'll take the cheeseburger instead of subsidizing football for boys.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:15AM

Remember all you Westfield players - we still have room for the dixie cup fun this weekend at the secret location you all know about.....no worries - still way too early in the season so even if you get caught won't make any difference as a little slap on the wrist never hurt anyone.

JOIN IN ON THE DIXIE CUP FUN - A WESTFIELD TRADITION LIKE NO OTHER

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Funny post - yep we do get away with a lot. But winning is the only thing that matters, does not matter if we have some transgressions along the way.

WINNING!!!!

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Aren't many of the dixie cuppers from Westfield back again this year? Wonder what type of shit they will pull this year now that they think they are all that because the Westfield parents are licking their butts for them.

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It's a shame, this used to be a decent spot to discuss high school football until you morons showed up.

Can't wait for school to start so you little ones might be preoccupied enough with homework to stay of this thread.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:23AM

Explain football to my daughter, who is not allowed to play. Since she's completely cut out for some stupid reason, I'll take the cheeseburger instead of subsidizing football for boys.

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Why can't she play? There have been a couple local schools who have had female players in recent years past. I'm thinking maybe Centreville and Robinson, not 100% on the schools but I know there have been a few. Plus, the majority of the football programs in this area raise more money than any of the sports at their respective schools. There are far more players in a high school football program than any other program, each one of those kids raise $'s through some form of sponsorship. Throw in ticket sales, concessions, and booster programs some of these more successful programs make a nice chunk of change for their respective schools.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Current Page: 8 of * ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:29AM

minor problem Wrote:
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> Explain football to my daughter, who is not
> allowed to play. Since she's completely cut out
> for some stupid reason, I'll take the cheeseburger
> instead of subsidizing football for boys.

That's odd. I saw a girl play in a game for Chantilly last season.

Anyway, if your daughter wants to play football all she has to do is go out for the team. I guarantee you if she really wants to play and is a team player and dedicated to the team and willing to work hard even if she doesn't get playing time - most coaches would find a place for her.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: daughter wants to play ()
Date: August 02, 2016 09:19AM

I can share my experience here. My daughter wanted to play as well. I was told that since there are no college football scholarships for girls she would be taking away a slot from a boy.

This is a crap argument but I didn't want her hassled. She plays soccer instead and does quite well at it.

I don't want to get into the discussion of budgets but I do think that they ought to give equal priority to boys and girls who want to play sports. By that I mean each sport should have the same prestige. After all, around the world, it is the soccer players who are the celebrities.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 02, 2016 09:42AM

I by the way will provide the dixie cups for this year's bash.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: A coach ()
Date: August 02, 2016 09:59AM

Current Page: 8 of * Wrote:
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> minor problem Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Explain football to my daughter, who is not
> > allowed to play. Since she's completely cut out
> > for some stupid reason, I'll take the
> cheeseburger
> > instead of subsidizing football for boys.
>
> That's odd. I saw a girl play in a game for
> Chantilly last season.
>
> Anyway, if your daughter wants to play football
> all she has to do is go out for the team. I
> guarantee you if she really wants to play and is a
> team player and dedicated to the team and willing
> to work hard even if she doesn't get playing time
> - most coaches would find a place for her.


That's too bad. I'm a football coach and have coached girls in the past, it's no big deal. They often bring a better level of big picture understanding that their classmates don't have yet.

If she is still seeking that sort of activity, though, you might have her check out rugby. We have some fantastic girls rugby programs in this area.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Current Page: 8 of * ()
Date: August 02, 2016 10:16AM

daughter wants to play Wrote:
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> By that I mean each sport should have the
> same prestige. After all, around the world, it is
> the soccer players who are the celebrities.

Basically you are a communist. How can you enforce the "same prestige" on a voluntary participatory and attended and viewed sport???? JFC!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: comrade no 9 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 10:36AM

Comrade Citizen, your presence is required at the girls volleyball game tonight to equal the attendance with the football game. You will not attend the football game. It is for the good of the party.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: some people are really stupid ()
Date: August 02, 2016 10:41AM

Prestige is not the same as attendance.

Why is football/homecoming such a big thing? Why not volleyball/homecoming?

One of the big ideas here would be to make girl athletes feel as valued as the male athletes. Unless and until the sports they play get more prestige, that will not happen.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pharmacist ()
Date: August 02, 2016 10:43AM

We all decided that this year we would only have Fruit-Salad Parties at Westfield, you know where we steal all the prescription drugs from the medicine cabinets of all the families who's kids don't play sports...then dump them in a big bowl, mix them up and every one down a handful...going to be a lot of dysfunctional moms at Oakton, south county, west Springfield, Centreville, Robinson et. al.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: comrade no 9 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 11:21AM

some people are really stupid Wrote:
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> Prestige is not the same as attendance.
>
> Why is football/homecoming such a big thing? Why
> not volleyball/homecoming?
>
> One of the big ideas here would be to make girl
> athletes feel as valued as the male athletes.
> Unless and until the sports they play get more
> prestige, that will not happen.

What about the other 9 male sports that don't have football homecoming? Everyone gets a senior night - what you complaining about?

But to answer your question - football homecomings have been a time-honored American tradition for well over 100 years. I suppose to libs like you that's reason enough to get rid of them. All historic American traditions must be eliminated. We get it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: traditions and history ()
Date: August 02, 2016 11:28AM

100 years ago (well, 96 actually) women could not vote. Times change.

The fact that you say "male sports" says that you are probably living in the past, and people like you are a BIG problem.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: comrade no 9 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 11:50AM

traditions and history Wrote:
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> 100 years ago (well, 96 actually) women could not
> vote. Times change.
>
> The fact that you say "male sports" says that you
> are probably living in the past, and people like
> you are a BIG problem.

^^^^^

There you have it folks. Since this is a football thread I'm going to drop the discussion and no longer reply/continue this line of inquiry. I will say that this individual is BIGOT and has not granted me an appropriate safe place for my opinions by dismissing me as a "BIG problem." That is wrong and hurtful.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Current Page: 8 of * ()
Date: August 02, 2016 12:05PM

traditions and history Wrote:
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> The fact that you say "male sports" says that you
> are probably living in the past, and people like
> you are a BIG problem.

What reality are you living in? Are you aware that the VHSL has "Boys" and "Girls" classifications?
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 and Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 02, 2016 12:11PM

We both like to watch our teams cheat and get away with it, and we both have small penises.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 02, 2016 12:34PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: 757 and Bulldog Booster ()

Date: August 02, 2016 12:11PM


We both like to watch our teams cheat and get away with it, and we both have small penises.

________________________________________________________________________

That statement speaks volumes of the individual you are and what this thread has become. Unfortunately it's riddled with juvenile insults, that's awesome, think it might be time for your nap!

With that I'm out, think I'll subscribe to Rivals and read the threads there about Virginia high school football. They actually seems to stick to the topic instead of random name calling and idiotic threads by children....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 12:46PM

Aug 19th Preseason scrimmage: South County vs Western Branch. In Chesapeake, VA.... The Bruins almost beat Oscar Smith least year. Come on down if your Mom will let you... Then stay at the Beach for the weekend and run up your parent's credit cards!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 02, 2016 12:51PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcl7NaVUEQw

A mildly interesting discussion of coaching legend Tom Verbanic (and Francis Dall).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:23PM

I know that I am an ostrich and I refuse to admit that the 757 teams are cheaters, that Westfield has a dark underbelly to its supposedly good program, that anything is wrong with the state of VHSL football. I know I should root for a program like Herndon or Marshall to beat the shit out of these pompous teams but I won't because winning is everything....

WINNING!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Another reason to vote yes ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:28PM

Will the meals tax help the football programs?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:29PM

I know that the piece on Verbanic is only "mildly interesting" to Westfield parents who have drunk the kool-aid and many other forms of beverage with the players and who lick the coaches butts and don't mind tossing out a few rules here and there for the vaunted Westfield program. I hope one of the low level teams on their schedule beats them good - karma will come to roost at some point.

WINNING!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Herndon hurrah ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:30PM

Go Hornets baby

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Herndon Hurrah ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:34PM

I agree, tired of the traditional programs around VHSL football - go Herndon, Marshall, Mt Vernon, Stuart, Jefferson, and the like.

WINNING!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bellcurvedenier ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:51PM

Sure, let's hope schools that don't support football, that don't have active boosters, that hire crappy coaches because they know a friend of the principal, that have liberal parents that hate football because it is too masculine, that make fun of football because soccer is so much more worldly and sophisticated win against teams that actually support football.

After all, we all know winning at football just happens by accident.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bellcurvedenier ()
Date: August 02, 2016 02:58PM

Sorry and I forgot to mention at the end of my post ... Dixie Cups will be green this year instead of red for a little variety. Hope all current and former Bulldogs will be there. And I also have a little penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WINNING! ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:04PM

WINNING IS EVERY THING, THE ONLY THING, AND I WILL SUPPORT MY WINNERS NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO OFF THE FIELD. BULLDOGS WINNING!!!!!

Dixie cups to be imprinted with state championship logo this year, not green or red, just black and gold baby.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WINNING! ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:07PM

I refuse to support the lower teams, they are not good enough, they are not seen as worthy in our good Lord's eyes, there is a reason why Herndon, Mt Vernon, others are losers. They are not Winners. WINNING!!!!!!

Westfield Bulldogs are winners. Yes God believes so and so do I. God allows winners to do stuff outside of the game and still be winners.

WINNING!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WINNING! ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:12PM

Westfield deserves to win more than SOCO, is better than Robinson, always beats Braddock in the end, has Centreville's number again, will always beat Chantilly.

WINNING!!!!!

WINNING!!!!!

We are the lord's children, we are the best, don't point out our flaws, they are unseen in God's eyes.

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember to buy your special logo dixie cups - only $4.99 a cup - before the dixie cup fest this weekend.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LOSING!! ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:29PM

Ah you libs from the other teams are just pansies. Westfield is good ole down home conservative repubs and we know how to win in the eyes of the Lord and Donald Trump. Go Bulldogs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ha Ha Losers ()
Date: August 02, 2016 03:52PM

I agree, everyone else losers. Westfield only best team, only winners. Yippeee....Westfield are champs!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 66jwF ()
Date: August 02, 2016 04:56PM

What we have here is a lame-ass 12 year old troll who doesn't know how. You are boring, incompetent, repetitive and have no imagination. Go do some reading and research on the internet as to HOW to be an effective and interesting troll.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: i am 11 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 05:23PM

EFF YOU ASSWIPE, Westfield sucks, go Patriot District

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: smart kid ()
Date: August 02, 2016 05:35PM

Good job kid, you are right - Westfield has gone bad from the inside.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:16PM

Hey, guess what, South County is coming down to Chesapeake for a scrimmage against Western Branch August 19th. It should be a tough match up for each team & good prearation for the season.

Besides the DeMatha vs Westfield scrimmage, what are the other intriguing preseason games are scheduled?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:21PM

By the way, beware that 757 teams cheat even in scrimmages and I still have a small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:28PM

Who will be the favorite between South County & Westfield? Both could easily lose their preseason scrimmages Aug 19th.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:37PM

I ask but know this is a worthless question because Oscar Smith and VHSL already have the outcome cooked with all the players landing there this year and moving the state championship game to Hampton, etc. It is all a big fix. And I still have a small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:46PM

Hey you punk stop using my name. It is all about winning, something your team probably has never figured out. Go 757, just win baby.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:49PM

EFF you old man, you know 757 is cheataz land

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:49PM

screw you punk

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 06:59PM

757 Cheats I know it, I know it, I really know it. I am sorry for their sins and mine.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 07:00PM

And I know I can't get over it but I still have a small penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 07:12PM

Just a reminder:

VaPreps.com Class 6A Preseason Top Ten

Rank Team 2015 Record
1 Oscar Smith 13-1
2 Westfield 14-1
3 South County 13-1
4 C.D. Hylton 9-3
5 Lake Braddock 11-2
6 Centreville 4-7
7 Colonial Forge 9-2
8 Battlefield 9-3
9 Woodside 7-4
10 Robinson 9-4

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 07:26PM

I bring this poll up to again show that the 757 cheats and Westfield has now started to turn out like the 757 teams with transgressions that don't get punished and under the table BS with parents and team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 07:27PM

And I still have a small penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 07:27PM

My job this year is to root for the lower division teams to rise up and beat the big power teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:26PM

Underdogs never win anything but Winners can & do lose occasionally. Underdogs just keep losing. You're getting used to losing & that's a terrible habit! I feel sorry for you!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:41PM

Mommy never taught me the difference between winners and cheaters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:41PM

But I do still have a small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 02, 2016 08:46PM

You little libs have not figured out it is all about WINNING. WINNING is everything, the only thing, does not matter how you get it done.

WINNING!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:07AM

VHSL Patriot District Rankings
1 SOCO
2 Braddock
3 WePo
4 West Springfield
5 W.T. Woodson
6 T.C. Williams
7 Annandale
8 Mount Vernon
9 R.E. Lee

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:09AM

VHSL National District Rankings
1 Wakefield
2 George Marshall
3 Falls Church
4 Thomas Edison
5 J.E.B. Stuart
6 Thomas Jefferson(A)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:11AM

VHSL Liberty District Rankings
1 South Lakes
2 James Madison
3 Hayfield
4 Washington-Lee
5 Langley
6 Yorktown
7 Fairfax
8 McLean

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:13AM

VHSL Dulles District Rankings
1 Woodgrove
2 Champe
3 Loudoun V
4 Dominion
5 Heritage
6 Loudoun C
7 Rock Ridge
8 Freedom
9 Park View
10 Riverside

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:16AM

VHSL Peninsula District Rankings
1 Hampton
2 Phoebus
3 Woodside
4 Bethel
5 Heritage
6 Kecoughtan
7 Denbigh
8 Gloucester
9 Warwick
10 Menchville

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:18AM

VHSL Concorde District Rankings
1 Westfield
2 James Robinson
3 Centreville
4 Chantilly
5 Oakton
6 Herndon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:19AM

VHSL Commonwealth District Rankings
1 Massaponax
2 Colonial Forge
3 North Stafford
4 Brooke Point
5 Mountain View
6 Riverbend
7 Stafford

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:21AM

Cardinal District Rankings
1 Hylton
2 Battlefield
3 FP
4 Woodbridge
5 Patriot
6 Potomac
7 Freedom
8 Osbourn
9 SJ
10 Osbourn Pk
11 Gar-Field

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:24AM

NFL Alumni by Virginia High School
Hampton 12. 757
EC Glass 10
Highland Springs 9
GW-Danville 9
Deep Creek 8. 757
Huguenot 7
BT Washington 7. 757
Warwick 7. 757

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 06:28AM

VHSL REFERENCE

If you WIN your FIRST GAME.
You make the PLAYOFFS 80% of the time.

If you LOSE your FIRST GAME.
You make the PLAYOFFS 40% of the time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 07:38AM

If you root for 757/Beach teams odds are you have a small penis (trust me I know)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 07:57AM

Colman HS Football has their 11st Practice yesterday...

Predictions for 2016?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 08:12AM

InsideNOVA List of PreSeason Scrimmages...

Predictions & what else is scheduled.

BATTLEFIELD

Aug. 12 at Brooke Point, 6 p.m.

Aug. 18 at Madison, 6 p.m.

BRENTSVILLE

Aug. 11 vs. Stonewall Jackson/Gar-Field at Patriot HS, 9 a.m.

Aug. 19 Rock Ridge/George Mason, 6 p.m.

COLGAN

Aug. 23 Battlefield, 5 p.m. _ X

GAR-FIELD

Aug. 11 vs. Stonewall Jackson/Brentsville at Patriot HS, 9 a.m.

Aug. 18 Stuart, 6 p.m.

FOREST PARK

Aug. 12 at Potomac, 6 p.m.

Aug. 19 Massaponax, 7 p.m.

FREEDOM

Aug. 12 at Falls Church Jamboree (Freedom, Falls Church and Park View), 6 p.m.

Aug. 19 at Yorktown, 7 p.m.

HYLTON

Aug. 11 vs. Henrico at Potomac HS, 7 p.m.

Aug. 19 at Centreville, 7 p.m.

MANASSAS PARK

Aug. 11 at Riverside, 5:30 p.m.

Aug. 18 Freedom-South Riding, 7 p.m.

OSBOURN

Aug. 12 at Broad Run, 6 p.m.

Aug. 18 Robinson, 6 p.m.

OSBOURN PARK

Aug. 12 Avalon School (Md.), 6 p.m.

Aug. 18 at Friendship Collegiate (D.C.), 5 p.m.

PATRIOT

Aug. 11 Colonial Forge, 6 p.m.

Aug. 18 at Stone Bridge, 6 p.m.

POTOMAC

Aug. 12 Forest Park, 6 p.m.

Aug. 18 at Colonial Forge, 6 p.m.

STONEWALL JACKSON

Aug. 11 vs. Brentsville and Gar-Field at Patriot HS, 9 a.m.

Aug. 18 at Tuscarora, 6 p.m.

WOODBRIDGE

Aug. 12 Petersburg and Caroline County, 6 p.m.

Aug. 19 at Bishop Sullivan, 6 p.m. (benefit game)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 08:31AM

The game of football is under attack. (Juvenile Troll)

We see it every day in the headlines and on the news. The medical concerns are pressing. The game has taken its share of criticism. President Barack Obama said that if he had boys he wouldn’t let them play football. Even LeBron James has publicly said no football in his house.

The question is asked over and over: Why would anyone want to play football? And why would anyone let their kids play?

Here’s my answer: I believe there’s practically no other place where a young man is held to a higher standard.

Football is hard. It’s tough. It demands discipline. It teaches obedience. It builds character.

Football is a metaphor for life.

This game asks a young man to push himself further than he ever thought he could go. It literally challenges his physical courage. It shows him what it means to sacrifice. It teaches him the importance of doing his job well. We learn to put others first, to be part of something bigger than ourselves. And we learn to lift our team mates – and ourselves – up together.

These are rare lessons nowadays.

Football has faced challenges like this before.

In 1905, there were 19 player deaths and at least 137 serious injuries. Many of these occurred at the high school and college levels. Major colleges said they were going to drop football because the game had become too violent.

That’s when President Teddy Roosevelt stepped in to call a meeting with coaches and athletic advisers from Harvard, Princeton and Yale. He wanted to find a way to make the game safer. They made significant changes, introducing new rules like the forward pass and the wide receiver position. Those changes turned football more into the game we know it as today.

We made progress. Rules changed. Society evolved. The game advanced.

We’re at another turning point in our sport. The concussion issue is real and we have to face it.

We have to continue to get players in better helmets. We have to teach tackling the right way, and that starts at the NFL level. Change the rules. Take certain things out of the game. It’s all the right thing to do.

But even with all of that, the importance of football hasn’t changed. In some ways, it’s more important than ever.

And I believe the most critical place for football is at the youth and high school levels. For 97 percent of football players, the pinnacle of their careers is the high school game. Few players ever go on to the college level. Even less make it to the pros.

For a lot of these kids, it’s not until it’s all said and done, and they look back on it several years later, that they realize the difference the sport made in their lives. They are proud of playing the game. Have you ever met anybody who accomplished playing four years of high school football, and at the end of that run said, ‘Man, I wish I wouldn’t have played’? It doesn’t get said.

We know that football players aren’t perfect. Nobody is. But millions of former players, one by one, can recount the life-altering principles they learned from football.

They know the value of football is the values in football.

That’s why high school football – and particularly high school coaches – play such a vital role in our society. Our football coaches are on the front lines of the battle for the hearts and minds of the young men in our society. The culture war is on and we see it every day. These young men are more vulnerable than ever.

How many youth and high school coaches serve as a father figure to their players? How many mothers look to the coaches of their son’s football team as the last best hope to show their son what it means to become a man – a real man? More than we’ll ever know.

Coaches teach our young people the lessons of life that very often they learn from no one else. Coaches have the kind of influence in our schools, and with our young people, that is difficult to come by.

Billy Graham once said, “One coach will influence more people in one year than the average person will do in a lifetime.” My dad also says all the time that it just takes one person to believe in a young man or young woman to change their lives. I couldn’t agree more.

Our culture teaches us to judge an activity by how it’s going to make us feel right now. But football doesn’t work that way. The game challenges and pushes us. It’s often uncomfortable. It requires us to be at our best.

Isn’t that what we want in our society?

Football is a great sport. Football teams can be, and very often are, the catalyst for good in our schools and our communities. Millions of young men have learned lessons in football that they could only learn through playing this game. Football has saved lives.

That is why football matters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 08:46AM

I am a dumb shit because I fail to realize that other people on this site like football too. I also fail to realize that after all that wonderful church going sentiment above I still root for 757 teams that are know cheaters. I must be schizophrenic. And I have a small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 08:46AM

known cheaters

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:11AM

Cardinal District Rankings
1 Hylton
2 Battlefield
3 FP
4 Woodbridge
5 Patriot
6 Potomac
7 Freedom
8 Osbourn
9 SJ
10 Osbourn Pk
11 Gar-Field

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I have to rank Battlefield #1. They are returning practically their entire Northern Region semi-final team that nearly knocked off LB. I think they are a dark horse to represent 6A North in the state championship. I boldly predict they will go undefeated in the regular season. 10-0.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757() ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:35AM

2016 Schedule: Battlefield (2015: 9-3)

Fri. 8/26 - at Hylton, 7 p.m.

Fri. 9/2 - vs. Gar-Field, 7 p.m.

Fri. 9/9 - vs. Woodbridge, 7 p.m.

Fri. 9/16 - vs. Riverbend, 7 p.m.

Fri. 9/23 - at North Stafford, 7 p.m.

Fri. 9/30 - at Potomac (Va.), 7 p.m.

Fri. 10/7 - at Osbourn Park, 7 p.m.

Fri. 10/14 - vs. Osbourn, 7 p.m.

Fri. 10/28 - at Stonewall Jackson, 7:30 p.m.

Fri. 11/4 - at Patriot, 7 p.m.

Looks Like the 8/26 battle vs C.D. Hylton will be the big test, but the Cardinal District has had a rough time in the play-offs lately. Battlefield has had success in years past but it's been a while. Are the same coaches in place & the same systems? Y'all need to play tougher competition during the year. The Beach District has the same problem!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757() ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:43AM

frequentwatcheroffootball :: I am definitely a Smith Homer & Our SouthEastern District has been too soft too. I believe Battelfield & Smith have battled in the past. Hope y'all make a deep run into late November and into December!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:53AM

Per Washington Post:

Fairfax County. Here are some of the most intriguing rematches this fall:

Sept. 16: Centreville at Broad Run (Broad Run won last year’s installment, 56-21)

Sept. 23: Tuscarora at Centreville (Tuscarora won, 49-42)

Sept. 23: Westfield at Stone Bridge (Westfield won, 28-7)

Oct. 7: Westfield at Briar Woods (Westfield won, 36-0)

Oct. 7: Stone Bridge at Robinson (Robinson won, 27-20)

Battlefield at Hylton, Aug. 26

Hylton junior Ricky Slade will be out for revenge in this Prince William County showdown. The five-star tailback, who missed much of last season with an injury, gained just 36 yards on 13 carries during the Bulldogs’ 28-0 loss to Battlefield in last year’s season opener.


Westfield at South County, Sept. 9

Tuscarora at Stone Bridge, Oct. 21

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football is Overrated! ()
Date: August 03, 2016 09:55AM

757 Wrote:
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> The game of football is under attack. (Juvenile
> Troll)
>
> We see it every day in the headlines and on the
> news. The medical concerns are pressing. The game
> has taken its share of criticism. President Barack
> Obama said that if he had boys he wouldn’t let
> them play football. Even LeBron James has publicly
> said no football in his house.
>
> The question is asked over and over: Why would
> anyone want to play football? And why would anyone
> let their kids play?
>
> Here’s my answer: I believe there’s
> practically no other place where a young man is
> held to a higher standard.

What about young women?

>
> Football is hard. It’s tough. It demands
> discipline. It teaches obedience. It builds
> character.
>
> Football is a metaphor for life.
>

If that's true, explain how life managed to go on for millennia before football was invented, how life goes on in most of the world-where football is not played.

> This game asks a young man to push himself further
> than he ever thought he could go. It literally
> challenges his physical courage. It shows him what
> it means to sacrifice. It teaches him the
> importance of doing his job well. We learn to put
> others first, to be part of something bigger than
> ourselves. And we learn to lift our team mates –
> and ourselves – up together.
>
> These are rare lessons nowadays.
>
> Football has faced challenges like this before.
>
> In 1905, there were 19 player deaths and at least
> 137 serious injuries. Many of these occurred at
> the high school and college levels. Major colleges
> said they were going to drop football because the
> game had become too violent.
>
> That’s when President Teddy Roosevelt stepped in
> to call a meeting with coaches and athletic
> advisers from Harvard, Princeton and Yale. He
> wanted to find a way to make the game safer. They
> made significant changes, introducing new rules
> like the forward pass and the wide receiver
> position. Those changes turned football more into
> the game we know it as today.
>
> We made progress. Rules changed. Society evolved.
> The game advanced.
>
> We’re at another turning point in our sport. The
> concussion issue is real and we have to face it.
>
> We have to continue to get players in better
> helmets. We have to teach tackling the right way,
> and that starts at the NFL level. Change the
> rules. Take certain things out of the game. It’s
> all the right thing to do.
>
> But even with all of that, the importance of
> football hasn’t changed. In some ways, it’s
> more important than ever.
>
> And I believe the most critical place for football
> is at the youth and high school levels. For 97
> percent of football players, the pinnacle of their
> careers is the high school game. Few players ever
> go on to the college level. Even less make it to
> the pros.
>
> For a lot of these kids, it’s not until it’s
> all said and done, and they look back on it
> several years later, that they realize the
> difference the sport made in their lives. They are
> proud of playing the game. Have you ever met
> anybody who accomplished playing four years of
> high school football, and at the end of that run
> said, ‘Man, I wish I wouldn’t have played’?
> It doesn’t get said.
>

Have there been empirical studies done to support this claim.

> We know that football players aren’t perfect.
> Nobody is. But millions of former players, one by
> one, can recount the life-altering principles they
> learned from football.
>
> They know the value of football is the values in
> football.
>
> That’s why high school football – and
> particularly high school coaches – play such a
> vital role in our society. Our football coaches
> are on the front lines of the battle for the
> hearts and minds of the young men in our society.
> The culture war is on and we see it every day.
> These young men are more vulnerable than ever.
>

Once again-young men-the gender-exclusionary nature of football is a problem!

> How many youth and high school coaches serve as a
> father figure to their players? How many mothers
> look to the coaches of their son’s football team
> as the last best hope to show their son what it
> means to become a man – a real man? More than
> we’ll ever know.
>
> Coaches teach our young people the lessons of life
> that very often they learn from no one else.
> Coaches have the kind of influence in our schools,
> and with our young people, that is difficult to
> come by.
>
> Billy Graham once said, “One coach will
> influence more people in one year than the average
> person will do in a lifetime.” My dad also says
> all the time that it just takes one person to
> believe in a young man or young woman to change
> their lives. I couldn’t agree more.

It is nice, I guess, that he said that, but is there support for this claim? One might argue that the same claim could be made for teachers-and they help BOTH boys and girls!

>
> Our culture teaches us to judge an activity by how
> it’s going to make us feel right now. But
> football doesn’t work that way. The game
> challenges and pushes us. It’s often
> uncomfortable. It requires us to be at our best.
>
> Isn’t that what we want in our society?
>
> Football is a great sport. Football teams can be,
> and very often are, the catalyst for good in our
> schools and our communities. Millions of young men
> have learned lessons in football that they could
> only learn through playing this game. Football has
> saved lives.
>
> That is why football matters.

Football excludes girls. Football is expensive. Football has engendered a pernicious rape culture.

If you want your kids to play football, sign them up for an athletic club.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:08AM

Sorry to bust your LIBTARD Bubble, Football is Overrated:

2015 Wilson TD pass could be 1st thrown by girl in Va. High School League history!
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 needs to pay attention ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:21AM

(757) Wrote:
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> Sorry to bust your LIBTARD Bubble, Football is
> Overrated:
>
> 2015 Wilson TD pass could be 1st thrown by girl in
> Va. High School League history!

Why did we have to wait until 2015 for this to happen? If you admit that girls can play football, why do you keep saying "young men" in your post?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:44AM

Definition of a politically correct Libtard. Ask people to "conform to your use of terminology despite the fact that less than 1% of the time should gender neutrality be utilized.

Find were VHSL denies females to play football.......

Girls have the ability to form their own leagues. They have the same opportunities to learn and grow from football if they have the ability to compete as anyone else does. No one prohibits females from playing football. The above article celebrates that player's accomplishment & for You to assume that 2015 was the first year girls played football dishonor her accomplishment! You need to do your research.

I realize you have to keep your job as a paid liberal Troll on message boards, I am just calling you out on your BS! The premise of your argument is weak, just like your principles!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Feel sorry for 757 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 10:49AM

(757) Wrote:
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> Definition of a politically correct Libtard. Ask
> people to "conform to your use of terminology
> despite the fact that less than 1% of the time
> should gender neutrality be utilized.
>
> Find were VHSL denies females to play
> football.......
>
> Girls have the ability to form their own leagues.
> They have the same opportunities to learn and grow
> from football if they have the ability to compete
> as anyone else does. No one prohibits females from
> playing football. The above article celebrates
> that player's accomplishment & for You to assume
> that 2015 was the first year girls played football
> dishonor her accomplishment! You need to do your
> research.
>
> I realize you have to keep your job as a paid
> liberal Troll on message boards, I am just calling
> you out on your BS! The premise of your argument
> is weak, just like your principles!

Can you read? Go up a few posts. A girl was denied a spot on a football team because it was argued that "since girls did not get football scholarships, she would be taking a space from a boy." That's just wonderful.

Let's keep going. How about disabled students? What does football have to offer them?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: purenonesense ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:14AM

Football is Overrated! Wrote:
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> What about young women?

You are using a passe term - "women." You are BIG problem. You are living in the past to use such exclusionary and oppressive nomenclature. Any sports a non-gendered person participates in can provide this type of learning environment. It is not exclusive to football but football is an important tool.


> If that's true, explain how life managed to go on
> for millennia before football was invented, how
> life goes on in most of the world-where football
> is not played.

This is a classic straw-man argument. No one has made the claim that life cannot go on without football.


> Have there been empirical studies done to support
> this claim.

Who really cares? Anyone with personal experience knows this is largely true. Why would there need to be a study done?


> Once again-young men-the gender-exclusionary
> nature of football is a problem!

You have already been disproven on the gender-exclusionary point. And secondly, it is a BIG problem that you keep using the word "gender." There is no such thing and it is oppressive of you to keep trying to make such a distinction.


> It is nice, I guess, that he said that, but is
> there support for this claim? One might argue that
> the same claim could be made for teachers-and they
> help BOTH boys and girls!

I don't understand your comment at all. What are you trying to say other than that you keep pushing your passe "boys and girls" gender distinctions. What kind of totalitarian monster are you?


> Football excludes girls. Football is expensive.
> Football has engendered a pernicious rape
> culture.
>
> If you want your kids to play football, sign them
> up for an athletic club.

There you go with the "girls" thing again. You are a real bigot. Where is your empirical study that football has a pernicious rape culture? Other than hysterical platitudes from liberal rags? Funny how you accept the word of anonymous poster ("scholarships") but you demand empirical studies where common sense suffices.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Rape Culture ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:23AM

http://chronicle.com/article/We-Write-the-Violence-Out/237340

Football rape is a real problem. I say, remove it from schools, relegate it to athletic clubs.

And yes, some coaches do have an impact. Just look at Jerry Sandusky and Joe Paterno. Their legacies will live forever.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LdvHk ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:39AM

Football Rape Culture Wrote:
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> http://chronicle.com/article/We-Write-the-Violence
> -Out/237340

Other than hysterical platitudes from liberal rags. Strike one.


> Football rape is a real problem.


No. It is not. Nothing more needs to be said.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: it is a respected publication ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:41AM

What's wrong, Biff, that job hauling cars at Target doesn't pay enough for you to put your brats into an athletic club, so you expect people to subsidize your vicarious football fantasy?

Get real, and if you dent my car, I'll dent you.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: MPcet ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:50AM

it is a respected publication Wrote:
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> What's wrong, Biff, that job hauling cars at
> Target doesn't pay enough for you to put your
> brats into an athletic club, so you expect people
> to subsidize your vicarious football fantasy?
>
> Get real, and if you dent my car, I'll dent you.

You are so funny. I guess you don't realize that there are over 15,000 high school football teams in the USA and that there are over a million kids that play high school football. I think your perspective is warped and not really worthy of intelligent discussion. But I am bored therefore the comments.

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Re: High School Football 2016 Top 10 RB's in Northern Region
Posted by: Dorian Jackson ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:56AM

Who barbers top RB's in the northern region?

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top RB's in the region
Posted by: Skip Bayless ()
Date: August 03, 2016 12:04PM

Who are the top RB's in the region this season?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 12:45PM

If girls were interested in playing football, there is Zero blocking them from starting their own league or asking VHSL from allowing them to start their own programs. Girls have & do participate in VHSL Football.

Trying to make the accusation that just because someone plays football that they rape is weak and discriminatory and suggests of racism. In our urban areas, football is a powerful tool for minorities to utilize for pulling themselves out of poverty and the lower middle class. Simply put, removing football has a definite tone of racial discrimination! You would deny some one football that teaches kids to persevere through hardship and to set and maintain their goals for achievement and success?

Football is much more than 11 vs 11, a ball, and 120 yards of grass. It's clear you don't understand that. Football is a symptom of our Great America & you likely want us to be more like another nation instead of whom we are!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 failed English ()
Date: August 03, 2016 01:28PM

(757) Wrote:
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> If girls were interested in playing football,
> there is Zero blocking them from starting their
> own league or asking VHSL from allowing them to
> start their own programs. Girls have & do
> participate in VHSL Football.
>
> Trying to make the accusation that just because
> someone plays football that they rape is weak and
> discriminatory and suggests of racism. In our
> urban areas, football is a powerful tool for
> minorities to utilize for pulling themselves out
> of poverty and the lower middle class. Simply put,
> removing football has a definite tone of racial
> discrimination! You would deny some one football
> that teaches kids to persevere through hardship
> and to set and maintain their goals for
> achievement and success?
>
> Football is much more than 11 vs 11, a ball, and
> 120 yards of grass. It's clear you don't
> understand that. Football is a symptom of our
> Great America & you likely want us to be more like
> another nation instead of whom we are!

If football is the key to a nation's success, how is it that America was founded before football even existed?

It seems to me that you should have paid more attention in both civics and English. You are a very poor ambassador for football. I think you need to head back out into the parking lot and get the carts.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 01:29PM

I still have a small penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: purenonesense ()
Date: August 03, 2016 01:36PM

757 failed English Wrote:
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> If football is the key to a nation's success, how
> is it that America was founded before football
> even existed?

You are a pathetically inept troll. No one is claiming that football is a key to the nation’s success. That is you making that claim.


> It seems to me that you should have paid more
> attention in both civics and English. You are a
> very poor ambassador for football. I think you
> need to head back out into the parking lot and get
> the carts.

Again. You don't even make any sense. No one is claiming they are an ambassador for football. That is you.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: illiterate football fan ()
Date: August 03, 2016 01:42PM

purenonesense Wrote:
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> 757 failed English Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > If football is the key to a nation's success,
> how
> > is it that America was founded before football
> > even existed?
>
> You are a pathetically inept troll. No one is
> claiming that football is a key to the nation’s
> success. That is you making that claim.
>
>
> > It seems to me that you should have paid more
> > attention in both civics and English. You are a
> > very poor ambassador for football. I think you
> > need to head back out into the parking lot and
> get
> > the carts.
>
> Again. You don't even make any sense. No one is
> claiming they are an ambassador for football.
> That is you.

Whatever-"757" writes very, very poorly. If that's what football can do for you, I think I'll pass.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 01:49PM

I am sorry, what do you expect - I root for cheataz and have a small penis. I can't help it if I also can't write good.

But Oscar Smith will win the state title this year.

WINNING!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 02:06PM

Civics lesson? Where do you think football originated?

How about addressing your racist bent against America's most favorite professional sport?

You are on a message board focused on High School Football. It's a source of great, inexpensive entertainment for me and millions of us in the USA. There is absolutely nothing your liberal, narrow minded brain can produce that will change those facts. I love winners and everything it takes to be one. You are jealous & petty and deserve no more of my time!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 02:40PM

Our Smith players are only allowed to ring the Bell after a Victory!

Next one could be against DeMatha Catholic.

What traditions are like this? Cannon Fire after each score? Mascots running though the crowd or out on the field?
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 03:01PM

Don't forget, SMITH has won of the best HS Football entrances, too.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Make America Great (Again?) ()
Date: August 03, 2016 03:12PM

Hillary will ring a bell everytime a secret is leaked, a ransom paid, a war declared or a back room deal is made.

Talk about your great American traditions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballhistorianlevel1 ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:17PM

OK, here are some of the better QB's that I know of in NOVA. How would you rank them and who am I missing?

Peter Muskett (West Springfield)
Devin Miles (South Lakes)
Mark Ellis (West Potomac)
Mike Kovich (Woodgrove)
Anthony Pearson (Osbourn)
Alex Carlin (Heritage)
D'Andre Thomas (Briar Woods)
Luke Saia (Falls Church)
Kyle Brickerd (Broad Run)
Jameel Siler (Centreville)
Rehman Johnson (Westfield)
Michael Salisbury (South County)
Easton Turner (Stone Bridge)
Alex Miller (Robinson)
Patrick Bentley (Patriot)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New to nova ()
Date: August 03, 2016 11:42PM

I am not a historian...but it seems to me that Johnson from Westfield is #1 as he won his last game...
Miller is #2 as he had his team one play away from the Nova Regional Final.
I do not know how one would rate Salisbury at all because he did not start, nor finish a playoff game.
Siler is very good, and so is Muskett.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 04, 2016 09:49AM

Rank - em the QB GURU is here to lay it out:

Top 5:

Toss- up between Muskett and D'Andre Thomas for Size and arm strength, these two can sling the Ball and are 6-3" - 6-4" with room to grow, so lets call them 1-A and 1-B

#3 Rehman Johnson - for being the reigning champ 6A, has room for improvement, decision making, ball control (fumbles) yet has the arm to make all the big throws and has the legs to rack up 100+ yards and 2 TD's in the Big Game. Solid #3

#4 Kyle Brickerd Broad Run, dual threat passer/Runner surrounded by a lot of talent offensively and a strong defensive front, look for him to pass for over 1500yds and possibly eclipse the 1000 yard mark on the ground as well.

#5 Patrick Bentley Patriot great size, capable of making all the throws and can tuck and run when needed. could be a great season individually if the pieces fall right.

now the dings:
Miller plays for a team that throws maybe 5 tinmes a year, it was an interception thrown late in the game that cost them a trip to the Region Finals. hand the ball off Rams..Hand the Ball off! Don't be the Seattle Seahawks of the Northern Region give Marshaun the Ball.

Salisbury, although a great Athlete has a lot to prove, ending your season on the last play with a personal foul when your down 40-8 does not speak well for ones character. hopefully some humility is instilled at that program and they can get back after a state title.

Jameel siler - has not been able to duplicate the success of his predecessor's until he can overcome his short-comings and lead Centreville out of the first round he will be looking over his shoulder at the depth chart!

more to come...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: August 04, 2016 10:49AM

Salisbury did not look good at all in the regular season Westfield game. If Pannoni hadn't brought in Ramsey to play QB SoCo does not win that game.

I hope Johnson learns how to hold onto the football - if not he's gonna blow a game or two.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Alexandria historian ()
Date: August 04, 2016 10:50AM

(757) Wrote:
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> Our Smith players are only allowed to ring the
> Bell after a Victory!
>
> Next one could be against DeMatha Catholic.
>
> What traditions are like this? Cannon Fire after
> each score? Mascots running though the crowd or
> out on the field?

In keeping with a civil war theme, JEB Stuart HS in Falls Church fires a cannon after every td. When the school name changes in a couple years, I'm sure that tradition will go away.

GW in Alexandria and W&L in Arlington used to play for an old oak bucket every Thanksgiving. If I remember, a school had to win three years in a row to keep the bucket. And then a new one was used. Or something like that. That was the best football rivalry in Northern Va history. The old GW stadium filled with 20,000spectators every Thanksgiving for the game, and it was televised.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New to nova ()
Date: August 04, 2016 11:03AM

Please define the QB's Job?
Stats?
Or win games?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 04, 2016 11:16AM

Picking up where the Guru left off:

#6 Mark Ellis West Potomac, the more film the Guru watches, the more he likes the Ellis, great size 6-4" impressive poise in the pocket, and has a touch on the ball very few others have. If the Guru could get Ellis out to the west coast for a week of sand and tennis racket training, Ellis could easily move up to a solid 1-C or #2 ranking.

Defining the role of the Quarterback in basic terms, he is the field General for the offensive side of the ball, leader, motivator, tempo setter. the ability to generate stats and or win games is directly linked to the talent around the QB. very few atheletes/QB's in the region have been able to garner the stats and wins with little or no talent around them. the last individual to demonstrate this ability was Greg Stroman, now on the defensive side of the ball at Tech, prior to him, Michael Nebrich Lake Braddock who did have talent around him which contributed to his many wins and VHSL record setting performance(s).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New to nova ()
Date: August 04, 2016 11:48AM

Thanks

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 04, 2016 11:54AM

Alexandria Historian: 20,000 fans? Wow that's amazing! What football stadium would hold that many fans in NOVA? With no college football in your area, I'm curious, some of the big rivalries in your area would be fun to watch in a big stadium. Additionally, part of getting an ESPN High Shool Game would be easier with such a ztadium!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New to nova ()
Date: August 04, 2016 11:55AM

By your definition, Johnson should be #1 or #2 if you take into account his fumbles.
He played out of his mind in three games, and won a State Title.

Miller did what he was asked to do, and nearly got the Rams to the point of Johnson's Team.

I am starting to feel that Leadership is undervalued, while size is overvalued.

We are writing about HS Football, NOT College, nor Pro Football.

Miller disqualified himself from the the top spot by an INT...Johnson did not throw an INT in his run. How do you quantify their "Decision making"?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:00PM

The next of the next:

Anthony Pearson and Easton Turner, these two could be easily inter-changed so for the sake of argument I will rank them alphabetically, Anthony gets the #7 slot and Easton gets the #8 spot.

#7 Pearson, the guru likes his size 6-2" 190, not as big as others however bigger than most at this level. Pearson won some accolades last year at the conference and state level. it will be interesting to see if he can duplicate last years individual success, his arm strength and ability to extend the play with his feet will determine his and osbourns success this year.

#8 Turner, how much is his talent level and how much is it the smoke and mirrors of Mickey's Big Mouth system. the bulldogs will get tested early and often this year, will their defense be enough to prop this Joe Thompson junior less team up or will Turner live up to the prophecy. I think its more smoke than mirrors his mobility may extend the play and help him produce a winner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:07PM

Rowdy Fans envy! I have to admit that I am envious of how Rowdy the student pep section fans are in NOVA vs 757. Western Branch turns out pretty well but they're inconsistent.

Anybody have any thoughts on how to build up a stronger pep section for the student body?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:14PM

Size is a defining characteristic and it is what most at the next level are looking at in these guys. that is unfortunately what places Devin Miles and Saia in the #9 and #10 holes. capable athletes for their respective programs, however unless your Doug Flutie or Kevin Allen, 5-9" just isn't getting it done.

Miles and Saia are similar in their capabilities, medium arm strength, fair decision making, feet are questionable. I do however like their ability to extend the play, Saia was a little Aaron Rodgers esque in a few of his tapes and Miles flashed of Brett favre. flip a coin that's where they fall.

Had Johnson demonstrated Better Leadership on and OFF the Field he just might have garnered that top spot. this is his year to solidify that role, his team mates as well as his coaches are still looking for him to fill Scanlons leadership Shoes. If his actions lead the way and not his words hes Golden!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Alexandria historian ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:19PM

(757) Wrote:
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> Alexandria Historian: 20,000 fans? Wow that's
> amazing! What football stadium would hold that
> many fans in NOVA? With no college football in
> your area, I'm curious, some of the big rivalries
> in your area would be fun to watch in a big
> stadium. Additionally, part of getting an ESPN
> High Shool Game would be easier with such a
> ztadium!

The stadium was at the site of the old GW high school, which is now a junior high school. After GW HS closed in 71, the stadium was demolished. GW closed as part of the integration of Alexandria's high schools. The story was told in "Remember the Titans." It's a shame TC Williams stadium is an embarrassment, especially when compared to the old GW stadium.

After GW closed, W&L's arch rival became Yorktown which is just down the road from W&L. That's stil a very strong rivalry, and one of the oldest in Northern Va.

Back in the olden days the big football powerhouses in Northern Va were W&L, Annandale, and GW. Even Marshall for a time. Unfortunately no local high schools play on thanksgiving any longer.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Old Town ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:20PM

Old GW stadium in fact had a capacity of 14,800 seated and several thousand more standing. built in 1947, it hosted many pre-season professional football games, and several US Presidents attended the annual thanksgiving day Bowl Game. that's the Facts!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: QB's ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:33PM

As good as Johnson is they still rode that defense, scanlon and that run game to the state championship.

Thomas had impressive size and arm strength. If he is truly legit he should be able to close the difference between them and SB/tusky.

Unfortunately Muskett has the worst team of them all. Defense was really bad last year. Against soco, robo and Lb he had 13 TD's, over 1000 yds passing and a few hundred yards rushing. He also has a D-I WR this year. If they can put a defense around him they could be really good.

Salisbury is a really good athlete who has some talent throwing the ball. sC is always loaded so he should have a good season. Also they have the best Wr in the northern region.

Ellis may be the most overrated of them all. Average arm strength especially for his size. He's not very physical and can get rattled very easily.

At the end of the day defense wins championships. Add in a good qb and amyone becomes beatable

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Va history buff ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:37PM

Actually in the 50s GW's stadium had a capacity of exactly 17,000. It was larger than the stadium at W-L, which was the second largest in Northern Virginia. That's why the Turkey Day games were played at G.W. and not at W-L.

The current W-L stadium is the same size, but with much less seating than in those days.

Every year the W-L students would form a miles long car caravan to the game at G.W. It was a sight to behold. Nothing today comes close.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 04, 2016 12:47PM

That's too bad that no stadiums in your area aren't that big any more. Our VABeach Sports Plex was supposed to be expanded to 14,000 seats a couple of years ago when a promising low level pro football league put a team down here. The Destroyers & their league played only 1 1/2 years so it never expanded above its current 7,000 seats. Only one side of the field has seats & fans have to sit together for both teams which is awkward.

For the South Regional Championships, there's a good chance we'd fill 14,000 seats & I think we need a bigger venue down here anyway. Hampton U. Stadium holds 12,000 & it will be interesting to see if it'll hold everyone for the 6A & 5A State Championships? If 757 represents in those games, I predict a full capacity crowd!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballhistorianlevel1 ()
Date: August 04, 2016 01:52PM

QB Guru: Your analysis is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks very much for taking the time to write this up.

Do you have any idea at this point who will likely be at QB for Lake Braddock, Chantilly, Oakton and Madison?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Former HS and College Player ()
Date: August 04, 2016 01:55PM

Team with the highest T level wins.
(no roids)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: August 04, 2016 02:28PM

No teams play on thanksgiving because the objective is to be PRACTICING on thanksgiving for a Regional Final game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 04, 2016 04:06PM

Female player trying out for Lafayette HS in Williamsburg, VA.

http://www.ultimaterecruit.com/ultimate-recruit/gender-barrier-broken-lafayette-andie-mooradian/

Give some history of girls that have played multiple positions on 757 Teams from years past.rev
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: battlefieldbobcat ()
Date: August 04, 2016 04:39PM

757() Wrote:
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>
> Looks Like the 8/26 battle vs C.D. Hylton will be
> the big test, but the Cardinal District has had a
> rough time in the play-offs lately. Battlefield
> has had success in years past but it's been a
> while. Are the same coaches in place & the same
> systems? Y'all need to play tougher competition
> during the year. The Beach District has the same
> problem!

Battlefield has a second year head coach - Jared Van Acker. He replaced Battlefield's original head coach Mark Cox that was there when they opened in 2004. Cox had an 85-36 record in 11 seasons and won the state championship in 2010. Battlefield lost in the 6A north semis in Cox' last year and same thing happened last year in Van Acker's first season. Don't know how much of the coaching staff Van Acker retained.

Battlefield is led by Penn State commit Senior Brailyn Franklin and Junior LB Joshua King.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 04, 2016 05:35PM

My 757 teams still cheat and my penis is still small.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 05, 2016 01:08PM

The QB Guru has been working OT, Lake Braddock potential Qb's JR. Darcy and/or Transfer student @ QB.

Chantilly looks to be giving the reigns of the Volvo to Justin Holl.

Madison SR. Choutka or JR Cothran

Oakton Campo jr.

Lake Braddock is the only Team above that will factor into any serious Post- Season Play so the others could start Tom Brady and still be one and done!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dixie cup dawg ()
Date: August 06, 2016 08:08AM

All Westfield football players, latest chapter in the dixie cup social gatherings tonight at the house of a well known Bulldog Booster - you know where to find the secret location, just ask the same event coordinators as before (SMILE). The football program takes care of its own!

Enjoy! WINNING!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog booster ()
Date: August 06, 2016 08:51AM

I am there, let the tradition continue

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Real Jesus Christ ()
Date: August 06, 2016 09:23AM

Seriously I hope you guys are still in HS, if you guys are adults this into HS when you don't have a kid on the team, something is wrong.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Vmkjc ()
Date: August 06, 2016 09:25AM

Haven't followed this areas HS football since I graduated back in 03. I am disappointed the area hasn't significantly improved the quality of football over the years. But I understand VA is not a HS football hotbed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 06, 2016 09:34AM

The Real Jesus Christ Wrote:
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> Seriously I hope you guys are still in HS, if you
> guys are adults this into HS when you don't have a
> kid on the team, something is wrong.


Why do you think I am into high school football?

I like little boys, so what I'm not embarrassed to admit it. I would toss those salads all day, the difference between me and you is I am comfortable with who I am and who's dick I suck.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 06, 2016 09:41AM

It is funny how often schools and their supporters lie about player size.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Looking at VA top recruits. ()
Date: August 06, 2016 09:47AM

The state doesn't seem to have the talent it once did.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 06, 2016 10:25AM

The Real Jesus Christ Wrote:
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> Seriously I hope you guys are still in HS, if you
> guys are adults this into HS when you don't have a
> kid on the team, something is wrong.

I played hs football, my kids played hs football, I have friends and their kids played hs football. What's wrong with talking about it? I guess we should all be playing Pokeman or something?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WJdMG ()
Date: August 06, 2016 10:30AM

Yeah there is NCAA and NFL. But I guess you were the dad who was into molesting his kids friends.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: August 06, 2016 10:56AM

WJdMG Wrote:
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> Yeah there is NCAA and NFL. But I guess you were
> the dad who was into molesting his kids friends.


Those players are too old for me. Im into 14-18 year old boys. The one time I did molest my own boys, they were a bit too receptive, it was weird. I prefer when there is a bit of struggling.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 06, 2016 11:03AM

Just checked out the LB practice. Lamont Hill is a 5 star recruit expect him to go to a big time program. I know its early but Darcy is the best HS QB I have seen in a long time, expect a NFL future.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Too many spics ()
Date: August 06, 2016 11:30AM

We need more niggers and less chinks and spics if we want the quality of football to improve.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the Real George Whitfield ()
Date: August 06, 2016 11:35AM

I appreciate you doing some leg work for the Guru and Darcy is Talented however let the Real Guru give him his Props when they are Deserved...until then Jump off my Handle...LB has the Talent, However Coach P Only has one Screw up left...We can not have him revamp his offense to compete with Westfield, Feed Atkins the Ball on First Drive for a TD then drop everything in an effort to have his QB throw 4 interceptions and a 31-7 loss...Best QB or not..the Coach is on the Hot Seat Here!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Darcy sucks ()
Date: August 06, 2016 11:46AM

Darcy sucks.... I wonder what school will offer him...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 06, 2016 11:50AM

Yeah we got dem niggers you can keep the spics up there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: George Whitfield ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:08PM

Yeah it can be difficult for blacks because this area is pretty high income, and that really doesn't go to well with being black.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield QB ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:10PM

Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid Freshman QB this year who is getting some Varsity reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started heading into the season, but what does the backup situation look like? Anyone have info on this new kid?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: real northern region football fan ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:19PM

Hey good info on this site, some idiotic youngsters from time to time but also some good stuff. For serious posters, what is outlook for Robinson and Centreville to play with Lake Braddock, Westfield and SOCO for tops in the region this year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:22PM

Westfields Roster is full of Former Youth League super Star QB's yet they have no depth at QB at the High School Level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: real Fan ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:26PM

Look for more Parity across the Region, Centreville and Robinson have the ability to beat any team any week...Westfield will not be undefeated come week 11 neither will LB and SOCO...Should be another Fun filled Season...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 nig ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:27PM

Westfield QB Wrote:
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> Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid Freshman
> QB this year who is getting some Varsity
> reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started
> heading into the season, but what does the backup
> situation look like? Anyone have info on this new
> kid?


Trayvon Allen. He is a better basketball player.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: moron ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:28PM

They are Talking about Noah Kim Moron!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Grow up and get out ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:28PM

Yeah you faggots should take this shit to Rivals. Stop molesting high school kids and you will find yourself much happier.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nah he is a chink. ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:30PM

moron Wrote:
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> They are Talking about Noah Kim Moron!


That Asian loser?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: morons ()
Date: August 06, 2016 12:31PM

moron Wrote:
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> They are Talking about Noah Kim Moron!


No I was talking about Kevin Luccroy moron.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: real Deal Kevin Steele ()
Date: August 06, 2016 01:17PM

He is a stud expect him to start for FSU or Bama next year as a freshman.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: real deal ()
Date: August 06, 2016 02:06PM

Kevin Steeles fantasy Football game is Strong...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: reality cheque ()
Date: August 06, 2016 02:11PM

Agree with above poster - think there will a lot of parity this year - Westfield, SOCO, L Braddock, Centreville, Robinson, maybe West Springfield will all be in there fighting. Battlefield will be good too.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: KcnJk ()
Date: August 06, 2016 02:43PM

Look out for Mike Jones III at Battlefield. Best player in the country.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observation ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:08PM

Look out for Mike Jones III at Battlefield. Best player in the country.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Who?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: N7Fvn ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:41PM

Craig David is a beast lineman.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bdoggy3 ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:45PM

There are many youth league qb "stars"who never play in HS. Youth league qb's usually play the position because Dad is coach. some of Westfield's better QB's never played the position until they got to the HS level, another example of good coaching.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: these boys are hot ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:46PM

He is the QB of the Future.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sicknastylaxbro ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:47PM

KcnJk Wrote:
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> Look out for Mike Jones III at Battlefield. Best
> player in the country.


Not as good as Damari Jackson from Stone Bridge

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 9w3Ky ()
Date: August 06, 2016 03:53PM

Yeah looking at recent All met teams Northern VA is a disappointment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: C'mon man ()
Date: August 06, 2016 05:37PM

Yeah looking at recent All met teams Northern VA is a disappointment.

_______________________________________________________________________

Based off of what? The lack of NOVA players in the All-Met selection. That's nothing new, the Washington Post LOVES Maryland and D.C. showing little love to the VA schools. Been like that for quite awhile though, nothing new. Add to the equation that a good number of these kids play at private schools which recruit them for their talent. But just look at Virginia Preps and see how many kids from NOVA have been getting recruited over the past few years. As one of the coaches for a D1 local program that finished in the top 25 last year said, "NOVA is one of the best kept secrets for high school football talent".

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WND3J ()
Date: August 06, 2016 06:14PM

getting nasty
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick Question? ()
Date: August 07, 2016 05:03AM

703 nig Wrote:
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> Westfield QB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid
> Freshman
> > QB this year who is getting some Varsity
> > reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started
> > heading into the season, but what does the
> backup
> > situation look like? Anyone have info on this
> new
> > kid?
>
>
> Trayvon Allen. He is a better basketball player.

When was the last time a freshman at Westfield played varsity football or basketball in the regular season? Do they not believe in letting them play up

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:31AM

When was the last time a freshman at Westfield played varsity football or basketball in the regular season? Do they not believe in letting them play up

________________________________________________________________________

Not sure about basketball but the answer to football is never. Eddie Royal, Evan Royster, Glennon brothers who are NFL alumni, and anyone else who's come through that program play freshman as a freshman.

They might pull a few up for the post season to gain some experience for the future, also to run scout squad. These are usually the kids that will wind up playing as sophomores on varsity which also is a rarity but has become a little more frequent over the past few years.

They have a few freshman that mix in with the jv/varsity practice in pre-season only to get experience against better competition. Think it's also done to those kids that feel they're good enough to play varsity as a freshman. The coaches usually let them get bounced around by some of the better players to make these kids realize they're not quite ready to compete with the big boys.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:44AM

I am the best and coolest booster there is. It gives me pride having an almost sexual power over these kids.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:45AM

also be sure to check out Rolando Santana, that dude is a beast.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Anything you say slick ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:49AM

C'mon man Wrote:
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> Yeah looking at recent All met teams Northern VA
> is a disappointment.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________
>
> Based off of what? The lack of NOVA players in the
> All-Met selection. That's nothing new, the
> Washington Post LOVES Maryland and D.C. showing
> little love to the VA schools. Been like that for
> quite awhile though, nothing new. Add to the
> equation that a good number of these kids play at
> private schools which recruit them for their
> talent. But just look at Virginia Preps and see
> how many kids from NOVA have been getting
> recruited over the past few years. As one of the
> coaches for a D1 local program that finished in
> the top 25 last year said, "NOVA is one of the
> best kept secrets for high school football
> talent".

Damn your crazy. But what can you expect from a grown man obsessed with a bunch of high school boys, or (hopefully) just a high school kid who overrates his peers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 777 fre ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:58AM

Trayvon Allen? Isn't that the nigger who attacked George Zimmerman and then got his nigger ass shot?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: August 07, 2016 08:13AM

C'mon man Wrote:
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> Yeah looking at recent All met teams Northern VA
> is a disappointment.
>
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________
>
> Based off of what? The lack of NOVA players in the
> All-Met selection. That's nothing new, the
> Washington Post LOVES Maryland and D.C. showing
> little love to the VA schools. Been like that for
> quite awhile though, nothing new. Add to the
> equation that a good number of these kids play at
> private schools which recruit them for their
> talent. But just look at Virginia Preps and see
> how many kids from NOVA have been getting
> recruited over the past few years. As one of the
> coaches for a D1 local program that finished in
> the top 25 last year said, "NOVA is one of the
> best kept secrets for high school football
> talent".

Just shut up faggot.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Trayvon Allen, Not Martin ()
Date: August 07, 2016 08:15AM

777 fre Wrote:
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> Trayvon Allen? Isn't that the nigger who attacked
> George Zimmerman and then got his nigger ass shot?


Nah son thats Trayvon Martin. I'm sure he could have returned kicks or been a nickle if he didn't get killed for being a nigger.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 10:02AM

Rumor has it one of our players was just arrested by the FBI. Not sure what charges are, it must be immigration or tax related, I don't see the Feds getting involved over some minor drug crap.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 10:12AM

As more information comes in this gets sketchier.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 4UP4P ()
Date: August 07, 2016 10:43AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Rumor has it one of our players was just arrested
> by the FBI. Not sure what charges are, it must be
> immigration or tax related, I don't see the Feds
> getting involved over some minor drug crap.


One of the bulldog players Saadiq Hinton was arrested early Sunday morning for attempting to provide material support to ISIS. More information to follow.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Close enough ()
Date: August 07, 2016 12:19PM

Well you also have Rehman Johnson who sells weed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is a Hellhole ()
Date: August 07, 2016 12:49PM

The veneer of a "good" program is falling off and we are now seeing what Westfield is all about!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: surprised at all this ()
Date: August 07, 2016 12:58PM

Wow I thought Westfield was an alright place, after reading this site clear now it is not what it is cracked up to be.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: forummoderater ()
Date: August 07, 2016 01:36PM

Last 6 posts from same IP address. What idiot lingers around for hours hoping to draw a response? Child. Not adult.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: sorry you are wrong ()
Date: August 07, 2016 01:42PM

I am "surprised at all this" - I posted once. Who are you?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Close Enough ()
Date: August 07, 2016 01:42PM

I posted once as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Federal police ()
Date: August 07, 2016 03:08PM

If Saadiq Hinton was aiding Isis it was the most productive thing he has Done because he sure as hell hasn't done anything on the Football Field won't be missed so long

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Check ()
Date: August 07, 2016 05:50PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> When was the last time a freshman at Westfield
> played varsity football or basketball in the
> regular season? Do they not believe in letting
> them play up
>
> __________________________________________________
> ______________________
>
> Not sure about basketball but the answer to
> football is never. Eddie Royal, Evan Royster,
> Glennon brothers who are NFL alumni, and anyone
> else who's come through that program play freshman
> as a freshman.
>
> They might pull a few up for the post season to
> gain some experience for the future, also to run
> scout squad. These are usually the kids that will
> wind up playing as sophomores on varsity which
> also is a rarity but has become a little more
> frequent over the past few years.
>
> They have a few freshman that mix in with the
> jv/varsity practice in pre-season only to get
> experience against better competition. Think it's
> also done to those kids that feel they're good
> enough to play varsity as a freshman. The coaches
> usually let them get bounced around by some of the
> better players to make these kids realize they're
> not quite ready to compete with the big boys.

Royal, Glennon (Sean), and Royster never played Freshman football. They were on Varsity from day one.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: YJknc ()
Date: August 07, 2016 06:02PM

forummoderater Wrote:
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> Last 6 posts from same IP address. What idiot
> lingers around for hours hoping to draw a
> response? Child. Not adult.


Uh I know that isn't true... Can you please provide some type of proof to these claims?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 06:09PM

Check Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When was the last time a freshman at Westfield
> > played varsity football or basketball in the
> > regular season? Do they not believe in letting
> > them play up
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
> > ______________________
> >
> > Not sure about basketball but the answer to
> > football is never. Eddie Royal, Evan Royster,
> > Glennon brothers who are NFL alumni, and anyone
> > else who's come through that program play
> freshman
> > as a freshman.
> >
> > They might pull a few up for the post season to
> > gain some experience for the future, also to
> run
> > scout squad. These are usually the kids that
> will
> > wind up playing as sophomores on varsity which
> > also is a rarity but has become a little more
> > frequent over the past few years.
> >
> > They have a few freshman that mix in with the
> > jv/varsity practice in pre-season only to get
> > experience against better competition. Think
> it's
> > also done to those kids that feel they're good
> > enough to play varsity as a freshman. The
> coaches
> > usually let them get bounced around by some of
> the
> > better players to make these kids realize
> they're
> > not quite ready to compete with the big boys.
>
> Royal, Glennon (Sean), and Royster never played
> Freshman football. They were on Varsity from day
> one.

No they weren't, don't question me on anything about Westfield football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fairfax Fuckboy ()
Date: August 07, 2016 06:14PM

KcnJk Wrote:
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> Look out for Mike Jones III at Battlefield. Best
> player in the country.


Yeah that brother is NASTY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 06:25PM

Westfield

Winning!!!!

WINNING!!!!


even if we have to cheat

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 07, 2016 06:54PM

It's not even about giving large amounts of money to the athletic department anymore, its about pandering and greasing the kids. They really work their ass off and play hard when you buy them alcohol.

You may think I am a loser for being 35 and drinking with a bunch of 16-18 year olds, but it certainly has its perks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Agree baby ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:23PM

Westfield knows how to grease a few things, oh yeah

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Beast nigga fucknasty ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:53PM

There is also Matt Mclendon who was offered by FSU, Bama, Tenn and UGA last week. He will tear up the Northern region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: serious question for you guys ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:55PM

Will football concessions be subject to the proposed meals tax? If so, that's probably good enough reason right there to vote against it!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield alum ()
Date: August 07, 2016 07:56PM

Westfield has had two players play varsity as freshman if I remember correctly, Evan Royster who was a freshman on the 2003 state championship team, and Louis corum who started at middle linebacker and fullback as a freshman. Eddie Royal transferred to Westfield from pvi after his freshman year so he never had a chance to play varsity as a freshman as a bulldog.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Biscuit Bulldog ()
Date: August 07, 2016 10:09PM

our quarterback is hot!!!
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hadenoughimout ()
Date: August 08, 2016 09:54AM

Well, folks; it's been a nice run - been posting on FFXU high school football threads since 2011 under a number of pseudonyms. Been willing to look past a ton of shit and sift through for the intelligent comments/news.

Unfortunately, things have taken a plunge the last few months.

So I am officially abandoning FFXU. This will of course further reduce the quality of the already sketchy postings. I can put up with any amount of verbal bullshit – I can ignore or play around with that. But I am not going to log on every day and look at freaking naked pics. That’s just too much to stomach.

Good luck all and see you Friday nights.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pedophile needs to go ()
Date: August 08, 2016 09:59AM

hadenoughimout Wrote:
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> Well, folks; it's been a nice run - been posting
> on FFXU high school football threads since 2011
> under a number of pseudonyms. Been willing to
> look past a ton of shit and sift through for the
> intelligent comments/news.
>
> Unfortunately, things have taken a plunge the last
> few months.
>
> So I am officially abandoning FFXU. This will of
> course further reduce the quality of the already
> sketchy postings. I can put up with any amount of
> verbal bullshit – I can ignore or play around
> with that. But I am not going to log on every day
> and look at freaking naked pics. That’s just
> too much to stomach.
>
> Good luck all and see you Friday nights.


Thank go. Get the Fuck out and try your best not to molest any HS kids this falls big Willie.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: whatz the matter ()
Date: August 08, 2016 08:16PM

Come on people, back to HS football please

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield ()
Date: August 08, 2016 11:00PM

Westfield will go undefeated this year and return once again to the state championship .... Discussion closed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster' ()
Date: August 08, 2016 11:03PM

No matter what rules we break.


WINNING!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: eEmKv ()
Date: August 09, 2016 01:22AM

whatz the matter Wrote:
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> Come on people, back to HS football please


No why don't you leave pedophile.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster' ()
Date: August 09, 2016 04:21PM

Come on people where is all the support for Westfield, best team ever

WINNING!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nxjYj ()
Date: August 10, 2016 10:15AM

Bulldog Booster' Wrote:
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> Come on people where is all the support for
> Westfield, best team ever
>
> WINNING!!!!!!!!!


I'm telling you watch out for Rolando Blackman, he just committed to Auburn.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: where is the real ()
Date: August 10, 2016 05:24PM

Where are the real football fans, please come back

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Check him out ()
Date: August 10, 2016 07:52PM

where is the real Wrote:
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> Where are the real football fans, please come back


No this thread must be killed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Perry Thomas III 5 star recruit? ()
Date: August 10, 2016 07:54PM

He is a 5 star salad tosser.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Right wing ()
Date: August 11, 2016 02:24PM

What the fuck is wrong with you right wing nuts. First trump and now all this homosexuality on this board. Why can't we enjoy the topic of this forum. This is why websites like ESPN and etc switched to signing up through your Facebook account so you dumb ass trolls would piped down. This is an embarrassment to our county, state snd country. We're better than this

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Maybe this is what's wrong ()
Date: August 11, 2016 02:46PM

Right wing Wrote:
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> What the fuck is wrong with you right wing nuts.
> First trump and now all this homosexuality on this
> board. Why can't we enjoy the topic of this forum.
> This is why websites like ESPN and etc switched
> to signing up through your Facebook account so you
> dumb ass trolls would piped down. This is an
> embarrassment to our county, state snd country.
> We're better than this


So grown ups can take about kids playing a game

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jim hypocrite ()
Date: August 11, 2016 05:32PM

Maybe this is what's wrong Wrote:
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> Right wing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What the fuck is wrong with you right wing
> nuts.
> > First trump and now all this homosexuality on
> this
> > board. Why can't we enjoy the topic of this
> forum.
> > This is why websites like ESPN and etc
> switched
> > to signing up through your Facebook account so
> you
> > dumb ass trolls would piped down. This is an
> > embarrassment to our county, state snd country.
> > We're better than this
>
>
> So grown ups can take about kids playing a game
_______________________________________________________
You gave away your bias, you liberal fag. Why not just say, "lets just have a football site with no politics? You couldn't help yourself. You're just like those other idiots you complain about.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Im not from VA ()
Date: August 12, 2016 12:02AM

I'm not even from VA but I am glad I could derail this thread.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Blackman is a stud ()
Date: August 12, 2016 09:56AM

nxjYj Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Come on people where is all the support for
> > Westfield, best team ever
> >
> > WINNING!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> I'm telling you watch out for Rolando Blackman, he
> just committed to Auburn.

Yeah Blackman is a stud, NOVA really needs to up their game producing players.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rolando? ()
Date: August 12, 2016 10:12AM

Rolando? Gee, I wonder if he's a nigger?
I'd love to see that nigger's SAT scores. But, don't worry....he can still go to Auburn because he can run up and down a field; and rape white girls in their dorm room on weekends.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 12, 2016 10:33AM

rolando? Wrote:
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> Rolando? Gee, I wonder if he's a nigger?
> I'd love to see that nigger's SAT scores. But,
> don't worry....he can still go to Auburn because
> he can run up and down a field; and rape white
> girls in their dorm room on weekends.


He is a football player. Two of the benefits are not needing to go to class and getting all the girls you can rape. Just make sure you don't get them pregnant until you know your going to the NFL.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chonga ()
Date: August 13, 2016 03:21AM

Anyone ever heard of Manassas Park High School Football

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vkmmk ()
Date: August 13, 2016 09:36AM

Chonga Wrote:
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> Anyone ever heard of Manassas Park High School
> Football


Yeah, we use to play them in the Bull Run district. They were very good at football because of a few players. But they were pretty terrible at other sports.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 13, 2016 10:31AM

Jesus another one of our players kicked off the team for being a nigger.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: <757> ()
Date: August 13, 2016 12:13PM

2016 Virginia Preseason Football Fab 5, presented by the Army National Guard
Oscar Smith starts out the season on top. But also watch out for Woodberry Forest, Westfield, Highland Springs and Salem in the Virginia football #MaxPrepsFab5.


Monday, August 8, 2016
By Mitch Stephens | MaxPreps.com

1. Oscar Smith (Chesapeake)
Head coach: Rich Morgan
2015 record: 13-1
Team preview

The Tigers had another stellar season in 2015 but this one ended with a loss, 49-42 in three overtimes to Westfield in the 6A state final. One of the most successful programs in the country, Oscar Smith has won at least 10 games every season since 2004. During that time it has gone 153-16.

Oscar Smith returns some outstanding players from last year, including strong safety and receiver Khalik Perry, quarterback Shon Mitchell and receiver Larry Chapel. In the state title loss, Perry had an 89-yard fumble return for a score, Mitchell threw for 369 yards and Chapel caught eight passes for 205 yards. The Tigers return nine starters on defense.

**(4 Star Keshon Artis MLB not even mentioned)
***(Multiple Underclassman Studs from JV & Freshmen will start & play major roles again for 2016)
****(None of the above players mentioned are actually the best player on the team!! You'll know who it is by the playoffs!!)


The Tigers opens the season at home against the nation's No. 19 team DeMatha (Hyattsville, Md.) on Aug. 26.


2. Woodberry Forest
Head coach: Clint Alexander
2015 record: 8-2-1
Team preview

The Tigers return one of the most lethal passing combinations in the state, with quarterback Lindell Stone (3,494 passing yards, 39 touchdowns) and receiver Terrell Jana (62 catches, 1,034 yards, 13 touchdowns). Junior running back Jameel Wilson should do the bulk of the rushing and the defense is led by Joseph Stephenson, who led the team with 146 tackles last season.


3. Westfield (Chantilly)
Head coach: Kyle Simmons
2015 record: 14-1
Team preview

The Bulldogs won their first state title since 2007 with their wild win over Oscar Smith. Westfield has won 61 games over the last five seasons. Rehman Johnson is back at quarterback for the Bulldogs after rushing for 110 yards and three touchdowns in the title game and was aided by another returner, 6-3, 315-pound guard JeanMarc Tsetou.



4. Highland Springs
Head coach: Loren Johnson
2015 record: 14-1
Team preview
Malik Johnson, Highland Springs
Photo by Fred Ingham
Malik Johnson, Highland Springs
The Springers finished off their first state title since 1981 with a 27-7 5A win over Stone Bridge, as the defense took charge. Among the returning players to watch are running back Shavon Harkless, all-around athlete Malik Johnson, quarterback Juwan Carter and defensive end Tavien Blackwell.


5. Salem
Head coach: Steve Magenbauer
2015 record: 14-0
Team preview

The Spartans outscored opponents 577-154 last year, including a thrilling 17-14 double-overtime win over Lake Taylor in the 4A final. It was the school's seventh state football title, but first in 10 years. A 27-yard field goal by then sophomore Nate Craft was the game winner.

Craft is back, as is starting quarterback Noah Beckley, who accounted for 103 yards in the title game. Among other key returning players are receivers Joseph Quinn, Viante Tucker and Nick Wade, along with cornerback Luke Owen. All are from the Class of 2018.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WS vs. Oakton Last Night ()
Date: August 13, 2016 12:47PM

Saw these two teams scrimmage last night and must say that I was surprised by the quality of defenses for each of the teams, but a bit disappointed by the WS offense. Muskett certainly wasn't on his A-Game last night, although I do suspect that their offense wasn't showing very much. Oakton played very well all-night defensively and was heads and toes bigger in size than the Spartans, who have some of the smaller O and D-Lines in the region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Get a clue ()
Date: August 14, 2016 06:30PM

It aint the size of the school….It is all the type of kid….When did TC dominate? When did West Pot win their two? What about Annandale?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck All Of You FAGGOTS ()
Date: August 14, 2016 07:02PM

So when I go out to eat, the schools get to tax that to pay for pedophile band coaches and so on?

I say, those of you who are so FUCKING FIXATED ON FOOTBALL should FUCKING PAY FOR FUCKING FOOTBALL.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 3NTxw ()
Date: August 14, 2016 09:29PM

Fuck All Of You FAGGOTS Wrote:
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> I say, those of you who are so FUCKING FIXATED ON
> FOOTBALL should FUCKING PAY FOR FUCKING FOOTBALL.

Haven't you whiners figured it out yet? The overwhelmingly vast majority of the public supports football, sports and other extra-curricular activities at their public schools. I would bet like 95% of the general public. You handful of screwball nutcases are an infinitesimal speck in the large scheme of things. It may give you some satisfaction to cry on anonymous forums - but trust me - you nearly alone.

Finally, go look at the FCPS budget. And then come back and tell us how much money eliminating sports and activities from FCPS would save. Oh, wait it's already been done.

FCPS said eliminating sports and activities would save $11 and $12 million respectively for a total of $23 million.

FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016. Eliminating sports and activities would have saved LESS THAN 1%. I repeat, LESS THAN 1%.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Just a second, Biff ()
Date: August 15, 2016 09:19AM

3NTxw Wrote:
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> Fuck All Of You FAGGOTS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I say, those of you who are so FUCKING FIXATED
> ON
> > FOOTBALL should FUCKING PAY FOR FUCKING
> FOOTBALL.
>
> Haven't you whiners figured it out yet? The
> overwhelmingly vast majority of the public
> supports football, sports and other
> extra-curricular activities at their public
> schools. I would bet like 95% of the general
> public. You handful of screwball nutcases are an
> infinitesimal speck in the large scheme of things.
> It may give you some satisfaction to cry on
> anonymous forums - but trust me - you nearly
> alone.
>
> Finally, go look at the FCPS budget. And then
> come back and tell us how much money eliminating
> sports and activities from FCPS would save. Oh,
> wait it's already been done.
>
> FCPS said eliminating sports and activities would
> save $11 and $12 million respectively for a total
> of $23 million.
>
> FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016.
> Eliminating sports and activities would have saved
> LESS THAN 1%. I repeat, LESS THAN 1%.

1) If the vast majority wants football, that's fine, let them pay for it. I suspect parents from El Salvador don't give two hoots about it.

2) Eliminate $23 million, well, well, well. That's a chunk of the $100 million or so they want to raise from the meals tax. Get rid of football, or make it completely self-supporting, make a few more cuts, and there's no need for a meals tax.

3) Going back to 1) and 2), if the football fans are willing to pay for football, maybe in the form of a "modest surcharge" (a term the pro-meals tax people seem to love) over and above the actual cost of football, the budget picture looks even better.

But the bottom line is this-yes, FCPS spends 2.6 billion, it is far from clear all of this is well spent. Some things are going to have to go. Some things, like football, could also be turned into profit centers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 15, 2016 09:35AM

What would these niggers do without football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: needs of the black community ()
Date: August 15, 2016 09:52AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> What would these niggers do without football?


If they want to play, someone needs to pay. Residents are tired of subsidizing a never ending stream of special interest/special needs groups: football fans, transgender students, keyboard consultants, band geeks (and their parents), wannabe rocket scientists and so on. If the schools don't move back to basics they will collapse.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: chief bratton ()
Date: August 15, 2016 10:47AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> What would these niggers do without football?
__________________________________________________
They still have basketball, drug dealing, rap "music", and committing lots and lots of violent crime everyday.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dTPLP ()
Date: August 15, 2016 11:39AM

needs of the black community Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

>
> If they want to play, someone needs to pay.
> Residents are tired of subsidizing a never ending
> stream of special interest/special needs groups:
> football fans, transgender students, keyboard
> consultants, band geeks (and their parents),
> wannabe rocket scientists and so on. If the
> schools don't move back to basics they will
> collapse.

No. You are an idiot. Lumping transgender and consultants in with sports and extra-curricular activities proves it.

Sports and extra-curricular activities have been a staple of the American high school experience for well over 100 years. Nothing has collapsed yet.

Virtually everyone supports them and their cost is minuscule compared to the benefits and compared to the real budget line items that are draining the taxpayer. You are a fool to focus on sports and activities if you are interested in saving taxpayer dollars.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: if you're so smart ()
Date: August 15, 2016 12:05PM

dTPLP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> needs of the black community Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> >
> > If they want to play, someone needs to pay.
> > Residents are tired of subsidizing a never
> ending
> > stream of special interest/special needs
> groups:
> > football fans, transgender students, keyboard
> > consultants, band geeks (and their parents),
> > wannabe rocket scientists and so on. If the
> > schools don't move back to basics they will
> > collapse.
>
> No. You are an idiot. Lumping transgender and
> consultants in with sports and extra-curricular
> activities proves it.
>
> Sports and extra-curricular activities have been a
> staple of the American high school experience for
> well over 100 years. Nothing has collapsed yet.
>
> Virtually everyone supports them and their cost is
> minuscule compared to the benefits and compared to
> the real budget line items that are draining the
> taxpayer. You are a fool to focus on sports and
> activities if you are interested in saving
> taxpayer dollars.

Instead of fixating on football, why not provide some concrete suggestions as to how FCPS could save some money? If the meals tax does not pass (and it won't), there will be a major budget crunch and football could be on the chopping block.

Don't think it is sacred-it is not.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tdehb ()
Date: August 15, 2016 12:27PM

if you're so smart Wrote:
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> Instead of fixating on football, why not provide
> some concrete suggestions as to how FCPS could
> save some money? If the meals tax does not pass
> (and it won't), there will be a major budget
> crunch and football could be on the chopping
> block.
>
> Don't think it is sacred-it is not.

Who is fixating on football? You.

There has been a faux major budget crunch with FCPS every single year for the last 10 years. Why would this year be any different?

I guess you weren't paying attention to the last budget go around where FCPS allowed commentary and feedback on proposed line items to cut. Eliminating sports and extra-curricular activities would not come close to solving the "budget crunch."

This is where FCPS spent their money last year. If they were run like a normal business where do you think your average CEO would start looking to save some money?
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Coach Lombardi ()
Date: August 15, 2016 12:28PM

Hi, I'm Vince Lombardi. High school kids do better in the classroom while in season of their respective sports. You Furfux taxpayers need to shut the effff up and pay for dem boys to play on my team. Come November though, they don't give a shit about school and are taking you fools for a fool.

The most important thing though is to keep paying for my big salary while you send your kids to BI and I babysit the Salvadorians whom can't speak a word of fucken English.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: there's a little problem ()
Date: August 15, 2016 12:44PM

tdehb Wrote:
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> if you're so smart Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Instead of fixating on football, why not
> provide
> > some concrete suggestions as to how FCPS could
> > save some money? If the meals tax does not pass
> > (and it won't), there will be a major budget
> > crunch and football could be on the chopping
> > block.
> >
> > Don't think it is sacred-it is not.
>
> Who is fixating on football? You.
>
> There has been a faux major budget crunch with
> FCPS every single year for the last 10 years. Why
> would this year be any different?
>
> I guess you weren't paying attention to the last
> budget go around where FCPS allowed commentary and
> feedback on proposed line items to cut.
> Eliminating sports and extra-curricular activities
> would not come close to solving the "budget
> crunch."
>
> This is where FCPS spent their money last year.
> If they were run like a normal business where do
> you think your average CEO would start looking to
> save some money?

It isn't run like a normal business. It is run on the premise that all they have to do to get more money is to ask for it. They did not want what they got this time, so they bulled the Board of Supervisors into putting the meals tax referendum on the ballot. A real company would have made serious cuts (maybe even including football) before resorting to this. This move has made the schools very unpopular, especially in light of falling test scores and wasteful expenditures (well documented all over the place).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wendell Jenkins WR ()
Date: August 15, 2016 01:05PM

That kid is nasty.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: staple this, derper ()
Date: August 15, 2016 03:27PM

dTPLP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> needs of the black community Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> >
> > If they want to play, someone needs to pay.
> > Residents are tired of subsidizing a never
> ending
> > stream of special interest/special needs
> groups:
> > football fans, transgender students, keyboard
> > consultants, band geeks (and their parents),
> > wannabe rocket scientists and so on. If the
> > schools don't move back to basics they will
> > collapse.
>
> No. You are an idiot. Lumping transgender and
> consultants in with sports and extra-curricular
> activities proves it.
>
> Sports and extra-curricular activities have been a
> staple of the American high school experience for
> well over 100 years. Nothing has collapsed yet.
>
> Virtually everyone supports them and their cost is
> minuscule compared to the benefits and compared to
> the real budget line items that are draining the
> taxpayer. You are a fool to focus on sports and
> activities if you are interested in saving
> taxpayer dollars.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-vanderbilt-football-player-convicted-rape-20160618-story.html

Yes, and football, your so called "staple of the American high school experience" has become a big problem on college campuses. Pay for it and regulate it, or face the possibility of losing it for good.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vote for Pedro ()
Date: August 15, 2016 05:58PM

Here's a novel Idea while I pay $8,000 a year in Property Tax, to Support FCPS and other County expenditures...Pedro and His 16 roomates Pay...How much for their 32 Kids, nieces..nephews ..cousins

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cwxuy ()
Date: August 15, 2016 07:41PM

staple this, derper Wrote:
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> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-
> vanderbilt-football-player-convicted-rape-20160618
> -story.html
>
> Yes, and football, your so called "staple of the
> American high school experience" has become a big
> problem on college campuses. Pay for it and
> regulate it, or face the possibility of losing it
> for good.

I fail to understand what that story has to do with football and more specifically high school football in Fairfax County. Anyone can cherry-pick news.

Based on your logic it is clearly time to remove math from the FCPS curriculum. It is dangerous.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Math-Teacher-Charged-With-Raping-Sexually-Assaulting-2-Students-379677671.html

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: try again, Biff ()
Date: August 15, 2016 09:19PM

cwxuy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> staple this, derper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-
>
> >
> vanderbilt-football-player-convicted-rape-20160618
>
> > -story.html
> >
> > Yes, and football, your so called "staple of
> the
> > American high school experience" has become a
> big
> > problem on college campuses. Pay for it and
> > regulate it, or face the possibility of losing
> it
> > for good.
>
> I fail to understand what that story has to do
> with football and more specifically high school
> football in Fairfax County. Anyone can
> cherry-pick news.
>
> Based on your logic it is clearly time to remove
> math from the FCPS curriculum. It is dangerous.
>
> http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Math-Teach
> er-Charged-With-Raping-Sexually-Assaulting-2-Stude
> nts-379677671.html

1) Math is part of the curriculum; physical education is, but football, specifically the overblown spectacle it has become is not. Consequently, it could be cut. Those wishing to play could join athletic clubs.

2) NVCC is, admittedly, something of a farce.

3) Football-related rape appears to be something of a systematic problem:


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/25/white-high-school-football-players-in-idaho-charged-with-raping-black-disabled-teammate-with-a-coat-hanger/

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/shatel-special-meeting-between-rape-survivor-husker-football-team-could/article_3772ffea-38e1-11e6-952a-6b83e4b2c26d.html

http://www.burntorangenation.com/2016/6/8/11886220/how-one-phone-call-can-prevent-a-texas-football-rape-scandal

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/08/americas-rape-culture-football-art-briles-and-baylor-university/

You don't see this for math, chess, or any of the other subjects people tend to cherry pick in defense of football.

A nice closing argument is the level of complicity in the Penn State scandal. The statue of Joe Paterno should be melted down-in public. Pieces could be given to the victims to commemorate the delayed, but inevitable justice, that they received. The rest should be made into a monument to the victims of football rape whose voices may never be heard.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mindlesssheepbelieverofnews ()
Date: August 15, 2016 10:41PM

try again, Biff Wrote:
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> 1) Math is part of the curriculum; physical
> education is, but football, specifically the
> overblown spectacle it has become is not.
> Consequently, it could be cut. Those wishing to
> play could join athletic clubs.

Diversionary argument. Your point was to cherry-pick a news story about a non-high school footballer in another state and attempt to besmirch Fairfax County high school football athletes en masse. Your also equated a "problem" with college campuses with high school.




> 2) NVCC is, admittedly, something of a farce.

What does that have to do with anything? You are arguing that FCPS is a farce.


>
> 3) Football-related rape appears to be something
> of a systematic problem:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/spor
> ts/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-f
> su-jameis-winston.html?_r=0
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp
> /2016/05/25/white-high-school-football-players-in-
> idaho-charged-with-raping-black-disabled-teammate-
> with-a-coat-hanger/
>
> http://www.omaha.com/huskers/shatel-special-meetin
> g-between-rape-survivor-husker-football-team-could
> /article_3772ffea-38e1-11e6-952a-6b83e4b2c26d.html
>
>
> http://www.burntorangenation.com/2016/6/8/11886220
> /how-one-phone-call-can-prevent-a-texas-football-r
> ape-scandal
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/08/americas-ra
> pe-culture-football-art-briles-and-baylor-universi
> ty/
>
> You don't see this for math, chess, or any of the
> other subjects people tend to cherry pick in
> defense of football.

You couldn't be more wrong. You are buying into the left-wing news media created stories attempting to eliminate masculine sports. Their has been a crusade against football for well over 10 years now and the news media bias over what stories get covered have created this "problem."


> A nice closing argument is the level of complicity
> in the Penn State scandal. The statue of Joe
> Paterno should be melted down-in public. Pieces
> could be given to the victims to commemorate the
> delayed, but inevitable justice, that they
> received. The rest should be made into a monument
> to the victims of football rape whose voices may
> never be heard.

What does Joe Paterno have to do with FCPS football? Answer: nothing. Don't be so emotional. Think logically.

Chess Instructor
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/06/10/chess-teacher-sex-abuse-trial.html
Ag Teacher
http://5newsonline.com/2016/07/19/panama-teacher-arrested-following-investigation-of-student-rape/
Spanish Teacher
http://www.observer-reporter.com/20160729/fort_cherry_high_school_teacher_charged_with_rape
Music Teacher
http://13wham.com/news/top-stories/ontario-co-man-arrested-for-rape
Substitute Teacher
http://5newsonline.com/2016/02/26/springdale-substitute-teacher-arrested-on-suspicion-of-raping-14-year-old-girl/
Science/Social Studies Teacher
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/30741671/update-grundy-county-teacher-pleads-guilty-to-statutory-rape-charges
English Teacher
http://www.katc.com/story/31840605/vermilion-parish-teacher-accused-of-rape
Math Teacher
http://wate.com/2016/07/15/middle-tennessee-teacher-arrested-on-statutory-rape-charges/
English Teacher
http://www.riverreporter.com/content/14/2015/11/20/tri-valley-teacher-arrested-rape
Geography/History Teacher
http://fox13now.com/2015/04/01/former-utah-junior-high-teacher-arrested-for-rape-of-15-year-old-student/
Special Ed Teacher
http://www.observer-reporter.com/20160108/former_trinity_high_school_teacher_arrested_on_rape_charges
Elementary School Teacher
http://www.10tv.com/article/prosecutors-olentangy-teacher-sexually-abused-girls-aged-8-10-school-took-cell-phone-video-0

There are literally 100s of similar stories out there if one takes the time to look. If someone wanted to start a campaign against teachers...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Emma the Excluded ()
Date: August 15, 2016 11:04PM

I have a problem-and a big one-in using school finances (apparently in short supply) for what is, essentially, a boys-only activity.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wvuyh ()
Date: August 15, 2016 11:18PM

Emma the Excluded Wrote:
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> I have a problem-and a big one-in using school
> finances (apparently in short supply) for what is,
> essentially, a boys-only activity.

Bet you cried when they eliminated boys gymnastics.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: no more special treatment ()
Date: August 16, 2016 10:35AM

The fact that football players and coaches receive special treatment is part of what has caused the problems with football, such as a screaming sense of entitlement and the growing phenomenon of rape culture.

For example:

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/ncaa-uncertainty-leaves-baylor-football-in-danger-of-return-to/article_53397fda-244e-11e6-9879-b72afcf0161a.html

A football player (or coach) is no different than the best science student (or science teacher). The fact that football has been singled out as a, if not the, paragon of high school excellence is a problem. In many, if not most cases, girls cannot play, a fact highlighting the elitist and exclusionary nature of football. As a result, girls are typecast into roles such as cheerleaders, and more, unfortunately, rape victims.

High school sports are not cheap. They need not only to self-support, but, if any leniency is to be given players for poor academic performance, this must be counterbalanced with a hard requirement that sports also help generate revenue for schools. It is not fair for residents-many of whom have daughters who cannot receive the special "football treatment"-to subsidize football and other sports.

Given FCPS' budget woes, the funding of sports needs to be looked at. All indications suggest that the meals tax referendum will be soundly defeated. As a result, the schools will have to rethink their fiscal position, and some of this rethinking will have to include not only the level and nature of sports funding, but also the role that sports serve within the context of the educational system.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Khjv6 ()
Date: August 16, 2016 11:52AM

There are no budget woes. It is propaganda.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 16, 2016 12:49PM

Not sure how this page went from talking about local high school football, then to moronic insults and slurs from a couple children, to a discussion about eliminating high school football. Not sure about most area schools but I just received and email from a current Westfield player asking to help meet his pledge of $625 for the program through fundraising.

So, let's see, presuming he hits that goal, along with his other 99 teammates that's $62,500 the program has raised for itself. Now realistically not all the players are going to hit that goal but my point is that programs like Westfield seems to generate the revenue to cover the cost of their programs.

In regards to the threads circulating about football culture and rape those incidents would occur if the individual's were football players or not. The world is filled with horrible people who do horrible things. The culture of the sport isn't what caused the crimes to occur, it was the individual and more or less their upbringing that attributed to it. If anything the football programs I know of teach respect, teamwork, dedication, etc.

One last thought, it's a stretch but just think about it. You think the administration at the next level wants to see high school football eliminated? Think of the revenue generated in college from these programs, it's mind boggling. Of course, what feeds these programs but the high school football player.

My suggestion, let's get back to what the purpose of this thread is, to discuss high school football. The teams everyone thinks will be good, what players to watch, so on and so forth. Those who have interrupted this thread with childish behavior or discussions of budget shortfall please leave and start an individual thread!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: thoughts about football ()
Date: August 16, 2016 01:09PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Not sure how this page went from talking about
> local high school football, then to moronic
> insults and slurs from a couple children, to a
> discussion about eliminating high school football.
> Not sure about most area schools but I just
> received and email from a current Westfield player
> asking to help meet his pledge of $625 for the
> program through fundraising.
>
> So, let's see, presuming he hits that goal, along
> with his other 99 teammates that's $62,500 the
> program has raised for itself. Now realistically
> not all the players are going to hit that goal but
> my point is that programs like Westfield seems to
> generate the revenue to cover the cost of their
> programs.
>
> In regards to the threads circulating about
> football culture and rape those incidents would
> occur if the individual's were football players or
> not. The world is filled with horrible people who
> do horrible things. The culture of the sport isn't
> what caused the crimes to occur, it was the
> individual and more or less their upbringing that
> attributed to it. If anything the football
> programs I know of teach respect, teamwork,
> dedication, etc.
>
> One last thought, it's a stretch but just think
> about it. You think the administration at the next
> level wants to see high school football
> eliminated? Think of the revenue generated in
> college from these programs, it's mind boggling.
> Of course, what feeds these programs but the high
> school football player.
>
> My suggestion, let's get back to what the purpose
> of this thread is, to discuss high school
> football. The teams everyone thinks will be good,
> what players to watch, so on and so forth. Those
> who have interrupted this thread with childish
> behavior or discussions of budget shortfall please
> leave and start an individual thread!

1) If Westfield wants football, let Westfield pay for football-in its entirety. If you like football, contribute as much as you like, but don't expect the rest of us to share your passion.

2) A problem with football is the special treatment that players and coaches get. Read this:

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/ncaa-uncertainty-leaves-baylor-football-in-danger-of-return-to/article_53397fda-244e-11e6-9879-b72afcf0161a.html

It seems, just maybe, that being shielded weakens the deterrent force laws are supposed to have. The whole idea of special treatment is problematic in and of itself.

3) You don't need the apostrophe in individual's. Maybe you could ask the Westfields player about that.

4) It is not clear what you mean by "the administration at the next level" but the same line of thinking applies. If they want football, let them pay for it. Most colleges work out their own funding; yes, football is part of it, but it is not realistic, or proper, to expect local residents to subsidize football in the schools where it is a part of their fundraising regime.

5) One might argue that this is a public forum, and a fairly unregulated one at that. Football fans might want to pool their funds and set up a paid membership site where they can have their discussions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 16, 2016 01:12PM

So to redirect the conversation back to football. Has anyone seen Sayed Smith or Devon Watkins play? They were just offered by UVA and I think more offers are to come.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: not that easy ()
Date: August 16, 2016 01:17PM

The stated purpose of this forum is:

"Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting."

It doesn't say anything about restricting the conversation to football.

In Fairfax, the fact that the school board is so money hungry has made football about more than games and players. Politics is in there whether it should be or not.

Since football fans have brought "the next level" into this, discussion of football rape is not out of line either.

If you want a narrowly focused, controlled forum, nothing is stopping you from setting one up. Do not expect the other participants here to share your view of the world of football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: My butt is itchin like crazy ()
Date: August 16, 2016 01:56PM

And I took a shower?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 16, 2016 03:15PM

WESTFIELD = DIXIE CUPPING = BREAKING RULES = TEACHING THAT WINNING MORE IMPORTANT THAN VALUES =


WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hello, football fags ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:03PM

Breaking rules = rape.

Winning more important than values = terrorism.

Sorry if this is what football is all about I don't want any.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: idiotalert ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:04PM

not that easy Wrote:
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> The stated purpose of this forum is:
>
> "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> designed to improve communication among residents
> of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything
> Northern Virginia residents would find
> interesting."
>
> It doesn't say anything about restricting the
> conversation to football.

Actually, that is the purpose of the FORUM. Not an individual THREAD.. You are troll, a thread-hijacker. Pure and simple and no less disruptive than the insulters and porn posters. Start your own thread. Guess what - NO ONE WILL READ IT.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: order in the court ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:07PM

idiotalert Wrote:
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> not that easy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The stated purpose of this forum is:
> >
> > "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> > designed to improve communication among
> residents
> > of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post
> anything
> > Northern Virginia residents would find
> > interesting."
> >
> > It doesn't say anything about restricting the
> > conversation to football.
>
> Actually, that is the purpose of the FORUM.
> Not an individual THREAD.. You are troll,
> a thread-hijacker. Pure and simple and no less
> disruptive than the insulters and porn posters.
> Start your own thread. Guess what - NO ONE WILL
> READ IT.

Who appointed you thread police?

You don't seem to mind the prominent picture of the kid with his dick hanging out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: eJEGu ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:19PM

order in the court Wrote:
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> Who appointed you thread police?

Who appointed you the police of the thread police?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: EbUcb ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:27PM

not that easy Wrote:
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> The stated purpose of this forum is:
>
> "Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site
> designed to improve communication among residents
> of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything
> Northern Virginia residents would find
> interesting."
>
> It doesn't say anything about restricting the
> conversation to football.
>
> In Fairfax, the fact that the school board is so
> money hungry has made football about more than
> games and players. Politics is in there whether it
> should be or not.
>
> Since football fans have brought "the next level"
> into this, discussion of football rape is not out
> of line either.
>
> If you want a narrowly focused, controlled forum,
> nothing is stopping you from setting one up. Do
> not expect the other participants here to share
> your view of the world of football.

^^^^^
Hilary voter

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the grand pooh-baw ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:31PM

eJEGu Wrote:
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> order in the court Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who appointed you thread police?
>
> Who appointed you the police of the thread police?

Flip Flippen, didn't you know he invented the Internet?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Shut up already ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:48PM

The idiot that keeps trolling this thread, FFU is a public forum, which contains individual threads for anyone to participate. The original purpose of this particular football was to discuss high school football. You decided to hijack it and go on about abolishing the sport, the culture of rape, entitlement, and everything else you assume it leads to. In other words go start your thread that's specifically for this, don't interrupt one that seemingly had some good dialogue until you went on your high and mighty. You're no different than those idiots burning the American flag and proclaiming their hatred for this county. If you don't like it than leave, because the majority of the posters on this thread were here to discuss football, not politics you idiot.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Shut up already ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:49PM

And before you go all high and mighty yes there are a few typos, forgive me.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: xFhXH ()
Date: August 16, 2016 04:56PM

And you forgot to mention that this troll is also a blatant anti-black racist. Someone that views the average football athlete (largely black) as thugs and rapists. And wants to eliminate a sport dominated by blacks. A typical hypocritical lib no doubt.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: A high school memory ()
Date: August 16, 2016 05:00PM

The title of the thread is "High School Football 2016" which is a bit broad. It would seem that all discussion, both pro and con, would be accepted...

"Linemen, cheerleaders, and rapists, lend me your ears"

Now there's a high school memory for you, becoming literate.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: idiotalert ()
Date: August 16, 2016 05:04PM

A high school memory Wrote:
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> The title of the thread is "High School Football
> 2016" which is a bit broad. It would seem that all
> discussion, both pro and con, would be
> accepted...

No. You are just an idiot. And a troll. That is all.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Persistence of Memory ()
Date: August 16, 2016 05:06PM

Shakespeare was around, and appreciated, hundreds of years before football, and when football is just a footnote somewhere, people will still appreciate Shakespeare.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NdMPE ()
Date: August 16, 2016 05:14PM

Persistence of Memory Wrote:
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> Shakespeare was around, and appreciated, hundreds
> of years before football, and when football is
> just a footnote somewhere, people will still
> appreciate Shakespeare.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/04/23/sport-shakespearean-shakespeare-loved-sport/

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: then it might be nice ()
Date: August 16, 2016 05:17PM

NdMPE Wrote:
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> Persistence of Memory Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shakespeare was around, and appreciated,
> hundreds
> > of years before football, and when football is
> > just a footnote somewhere, people will still
> > appreciate Shakespeare.
>
> http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/04/23/sport-shake
> spearean-shakespeare-loved-sport/

Then why do football players make fun of, and bully, kids in drama?

Why isn't a school's drama department given the same special treatment as the athletic department?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: truestory ()
Date: August 16, 2016 06:46PM

then it might be nice Wrote:
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> NdMPE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Persistence of Memory Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Shakespeare was around, and appreciated,
> > hundreds
> > > of years before football, and when football
> is
> > > just a footnote somewhere, people will still
> > > appreciate Shakespeare.
> >
> >
> http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/04/23/sport-shake
>
> > spearean-shakespeare-loved-sport/
>
> Then why do football players make fun of, and
> bully, kids in drama?
>
> Why isn't a school's drama department given the
> same special treatment as the athletic department?

You know what is really odd - the only high school kid from FCPS that I personally know of that has been convicted of rape... was a DRAMA student.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rambo495 ()
Date: August 17, 2016 07:37PM

Luke Saia is 6'2

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: August 17, 2016 09:24PM

Chantilly TE picking up offers/ Interest at the FBS level. will be a 2 way player this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No ()
Date: August 17, 2016 10:52PM

"FBS Interest" could mean a lot of things. But pat on the back to see the offer from Kentucky Christian. Always great to see athletes from the area compete at the next level while their education is paid for.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Where? ()
Date: August 17, 2016 11:54PM

Concorde Wrote:
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> Chantilly TE picking up offers/ Interest at the
> FBS level. will be a 2 way player this year.


To where ?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WKTkD ()
Date: August 18, 2016 06:57AM

George Whitfield Wrote:
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> Rank - em the QB GURU is here to lay it out:
>
> Top 5:
>
> Toss- up between Muskett and D'Andre Thomas for
> Size and arm strength, these two can sling the
> Ball and are 6-3" - 6-4" with room to grow, so
> lets call them 1-A and 1-B
>
> #3 Rehman Johnson - for being the reigning champ
> 6A, has room for improvement, decision making,
> ball control (fumbles) yet has the arm to make all
> the big throws and has the legs to rack up 100+
> yards and 2 TD's in the Big Game. Solid #3
>
> #4 Kyle Brickerd Broad Run, dual threat
> passer/Runner surrounded by a lot of talent
> offensively and a strong defensive front, look for
> him to pass for over 1500yds and possibly eclipse
> the 1000 yard mark on the ground as well.
>
> #5 Patrick Bentley Patriot great size, capable of
> making all the throws and can tuck and run when
> needed. could be a great season individually if
> the pieces fall right.
>
> now the dings:
> Miller plays for a team that throws maybe 5 tinmes
> a year, it was an interception thrown late in the
> game that cost them a trip to the Region Finals.
> hand the ball off Rams..Hand the Ball off! Don't
> be the Seattle Seahawks of the Northern Region
> give Marshaun the Ball.
>
> Salisbury, although a great Athlete has a lot to
> prove, ending your season on the last play with a
> personal foul when your down 40-8 does not speak
> well for ones character. hopefully some humility
> is instilled at that program and they can get back
> after a state title.
>
> Jameel siler - has not been able to duplicate the
> success of his predecessor's until he can overcome
> his short-comings and lead Centreville out of the
> first round he will be looking over his shoulder
> at the depth chart!
>
> more to come...

So Thomas and Brickerd are not playing this season for Briar Woods and Broad Run respectively. What up with their sliding programs? 5A too much for them. BW players transferring to Stone Bridge?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: John Dope ()
Date: August 18, 2016 09:10AM

Westfield QB Wrote:
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> Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid Freshman
> QB this year who is getting some Varsity
> reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started
> heading into the season, but what does the backup
> situation look like? Anyone have info on this new
> kid?


His name is Noah Kim. He's gonna be the next big player out of NOVA.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Taco charlton ()
Date: August 18, 2016 09:29AM

John Dope Wrote:
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> Westfield QB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid
> Freshman
> > QB this year who is getting some Varsity
> > reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started
> > heading into the season, but what does the
> backup
> > situation look like? Anyone have info on this
> new
> > kid?
>
>
> His name is Noah Kim. He's gonna be the next big
> player out of NOVA.

Not as big as Taco Charlton

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rico Samson ()
Date: August 18, 2016 09:33AM

Taco charlton Wrote:
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> John Dope Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield QB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Sounds like Westfield has a pretty solid
> > Freshman
> > > QB this year who is getting some Varsity
> > > reps...Obviously Johnson will be the started
> > > heading into the season, but what does the
> > backup
> > > situation look like? Anyone have info on this
> > new
> > > kid?
> >
> >
> > His name is Noah Kim. He's gonna be the next
> big
> > player out of NOVA.
>
> Not as big as Taco Charlton


And then there is Rico Sampson going to FSU next year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Todd Marinovich ()
Date: August 18, 2016 09:37AM

When your getting pick sixed on your third or fourth High school Pass by a 4th string JV CB that was reportedly (FFX Underground Gossip) providing Material Suppport To ISIS the week earlier, your not the next Big Thing coming out of NOVA. What this does show is the LAck of Depth at QB at Westfield, nothing more relax and put your eggs in TACO CHARLTON's Basket...kid can BALL!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jEvEh ()
Date: August 18, 2016 03:02PM

Other than the Glennon's Westfield has not really had any star QB's. Some solid high school athletes. The Piscarcik kid was pretty good. But from what I have observed over the years Westfield doesn't really depend on star power at QB. Anything more than serviceable is a luxury item.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: High School Priorities? ()
Date: August 18, 2016 03:17PM

jEvEh Wrote:
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> Other than the Glennon's Westfield has not really
> had any star QB's. Some solid high school
> athletes. The Piscarcik kid was pretty good. But
> from what I have observed over the years Westfield
> doesn't really depend on star power at QB.
> Anything more than serviceable is a luxury item.

"Glennon's?" LOL.

There's more to education than football, Bubba.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: John Dope ()
Date: August 18, 2016 04:26PM

jEvEh Wrote:
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> Other than the Glennon's Westfield has not really
> had any star QB's. Some solid high school
> athletes. The Piscarcik kid was pretty good. But
> from what I have observed over the years Westfield
> doesn't really depend on star power at QB.
> Anything more than serviceable is a luxury item.


So Scanlon wasn't a star? Probably the best athlete in the state.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: idiotalert ()
Date: August 18, 2016 04:30PM

High School Priorities? Wrote:
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> "Glennon's?" LOL.
>
> There's more to education than football, Bubba.

You are useless. You don't even know what is being discussed. Sean and Mike Glennon were brothers. Glennon's is a shorthand way of indicating multiple plural possession. The Glennon's = The Glennon brothers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldog supporter ()
Date: August 18, 2016 04:44PM

Westfield = dixie cups = sweeping rampant violations under the rug = acting like a team from Virginia Beach and flouting the rules = have a good record at all costs.

WINNING

WINNING

WINNING!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: whining ()
Date: August 18, 2016 06:21PM

And whining is what other teams in the NR do when they put down Westfield. If you can't be a winner then at least not be a whiner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 19, 2016 07:40AM

When your getting pick sixed on your third or fourth High school Pass by a 4th string JV CB that was reportedly (FFX Underground Gossip) providing Material Suppport To ISIS the week earlier, your not the next Big Thing coming out of NOVA. What this does show is the LAck of Depth at QB at Westfield, nothing more relax and put your eggs in TACO CHARLTON's Basket...kid can BALL!

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The only reason this kid is getting reps on varsity is because Westfield literally has no other option. The kid that was supposed to be the back up always has arm issues so that's not going to work. But the main reason this freshman is on the JV/V roster and not freshman is because his dad is buddies with the QB coach at Westfield. Saw him in action in the inter squad scrimmage, NOTHING special at all, slow delivery and he stares down the receiver. Also to the poster above about Scanlon, yes he's a tremendous athlete but he was no QB. Last season proved that his value was at WR, great hands, good speed, and being 6'5 certainly helps.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 19, 2016 07:45AM

Westfield = dixie cupping = flouting the regs = we can do whatever we want =

WINNING!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fanboy ()
Date: August 19, 2016 07:51AM

New game this year at the dixie cupping fest in honor of the Olympics......who can take the already drunk out of dixie cups and make the most circles on Freshman football backsides....hey, they have to earn the right to be on Westfield's football team too especially since we ran out of vaseline (or maybe that should not matter).

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Who is this idiot? ()
Date: August 19, 2016 09:20AM

Westfield = dixie cupping = flouting the regs = we can do whatever we want =

WINNING!!!!!!!
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New game this year at the dixie cupping fest in honor of the Olympics......who can take the already drunk out of dixie cups and make the most circles on Freshman football backsides....hey, they have to earn the right to be on Westfield's football team too especially since we ran out of vaseline (or maybe that should not matter).

WINNING
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Gotta be a butthurt Centreville fan, probably same troll that's throughout bashing WF. What's the matter, realty set in that the short run of success you guys had is gone and mediocre seasons are on the horizon for a quite few years to come?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Grocery Store Hassle ()
Date: August 19, 2016 11:20AM

There were football players from FCHS at the Giant on Rt. 50 last night. They had both doorways blocked by selling tickets.

It is bad enough that they want a meals tax for football, but this is ridiculous. The register to vote people don't hassle you, but there were five or six of these guys, not good and the manager didn't seem that interested in the problem.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yhF4E ()
Date: August 19, 2016 12:06PM

Grocery Store Hassle Wrote:
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> There were football players from FCHS at the Giant
> on Rt. 50 last night. They had both doorways
> blocked by selling tickets.
>
> It is bad enough that they want a meals tax for
> football, but this is ridiculous. The register to
> vote people don't hassle you, but there were five
> or six of these guys, not good and the manager
> didn't seem that interested in the problem.

So I thought you wanted football to pay their way through private means? They were fund-raising. And they had permission from Giant. Very common occurrence. Doors were not blocked. All you have to do is walk past and ignore. Or not. Grow up child.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: August 19, 2016 12:52PM

I am from Westfield, I am a winner, people love me, when somebody calls me out on my boorish behavior or cheating ways I always deflect and blame Centreville even though there are many other schools and fans out there that know Westfield is hiding alot of stuff too (but somehow I am still oddly obsessed with Centreville, not sure why), but we are winners, always winners even though we dixie cup.

WINNING
WINNING
WINNING
WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ptHVc ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:01PM

I believe you have made this post about 25X already. We get it. Further repetition not really necessary. We get it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:25PM

Don't question me - I am from Westfield. There is no limit to the amount of times that I as a Westfield fan will proclaim to the world that Westfield is the best, we are winners! Dixie cupping starts at 8pm Saturday night.

WINNING
WINNING
WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: heywood Jahblowme ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:30PM

Posting in anonymity clearly in indication of your inept penis size! Winning Winning Winning Winning is a Douche!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:31PM

WINNING - at least I admit I am a Westfield fan. You use the name heywood jahblowme - yah!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:33PM

and of course I have a small penis as I am a Westfield fan

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: heywood !! ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:34PM

Every one on this thread knows your not a Westfield Fan your just an Adult Troll that sits around his Computer feeling accomplished because he got cut from freshmen football back in the 80's... I am a South Lakes Fan and Parent and your both naïve and stupid thinking any given Friday/Saturday Night at any high school in the state the athletes/students aren't drinking and or smoking it s simply who gets caught...get a life Douche Bag!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Real Westfield fan ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:43PM

Yeah asswipe troll get off this site. Westfield is a good place with good kids and good football....and we do win

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: August 19, 2016 01:43PM

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fortune teller ()
Date: August 19, 2016 02:35PM

Woodson will win STATES this year, we are looking better than ever!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: don't start stupid fights ()
Date: August 19, 2016 03:58PM

yhF4E Wrote:
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> Grocery Store Hassle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There were football players from FCHS at the
> Giant
> > on Rt. 50 last night. They had both doorways
> > blocked by selling tickets.
> >
> > It is bad enough that they want a meals tax for
> > football, but this is ridiculous. The register
> to
> > vote people don't hassle you, but there were
> five
> > or six of these guys, not good and the manager
> > didn't seem that interested in the problem.
>
> So I thought you wanted football to pay their way
> through private means? They were fund-raising.
> And they had permission from Giant. Very common
> occurrence. Doors were not blocked. All you have
> to do is walk past and ignore. Or not. Grow up
> child.

I just called Giant, they did NOT have permission, complaints were received and they were eventually asked to leave. If you don't believe it, call Giant yourself, (703) 280-3340.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: notToddMarinovich ()
Date: August 19, 2016 11:20PM

Todd Marinovich Wrote:
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> When your getting pick sixed on your third or
> fourth High school Pass by a 4th string JV CB that
> was reportedly (FFX Underground Gossip) providing
> Material Suppport To ISIS the week earlier, your
> not the next Big Thing coming out of NOVA. What
> this does show is the LAck of Depth at QB at
> Westfield, nothing more relax and put your eggs in
> TACO CHARLTON's Basket...kid can BALL!


That "4th string JV CB" that you refer to was a big star in the scrimmage vs DeMatha tonight. Laid out a couple of DeMatha WR bigtime including a forced fumble and return for a TD.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ig Drop ()
Date: August 20, 2016 12:12AM

DeMatha 34 Westfield 7

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tyrell Waters ()
Date: August 20, 2016 06:29AM

ig Drop Wrote:
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> DeMatha 34 Westfield 7


Tyrell Waters was a stud, You can see why Bama offered him a full ride.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: marinovichs mother ()
Date: August 20, 2016 08:17AM

Wonder when the Offensive and Defensive Coordinator(s) will Recognize their leading Scorer is a 3rd String CB. Hinton 12pts. Rest of Team 6. Kudos to that young man making the most of his Playing Time...Climb that Ladder.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dumb ()
Date: August 20, 2016 11:00AM

This forum has gone to shit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: get your own fucking forum ()
Date: August 20, 2016 11:59AM

Dumb Wrote:
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> This forum has gone to shit.


You football guys need to go off and get your own site. Buy a domain, host it, and get some web company to install forum software, and have at it. Football is a political issue in Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Forum stinks ()
Date: August 20, 2016 12:24PM

Political? It's high school football. And when I scroll down a forum I don't expect to see a naked boy. C'mon. This forum stinks. I'm out. Have it at it guys

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Peoples Champ ()
Date: August 20, 2016 01:40PM

Forum stinks Wrote:
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> Political? It's high school football. And when I
> scroll down a forum I don't expect to see a naked
> boy. C'mon. This forum stinks. I'm out. Have it at
> it guys


Good, you don't even know enough to add anything anyways. Try Rivals, or a site actually meant for High School Football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: let us stick with it ()
Date: August 20, 2016 02:03PM

I have been an observer and periodic contributor over the years to this high school football site. Fellow fans - don't let the trolls turn this one down, let us get back to football talk and just ignore the idiots.

Signed,
Stick with it!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: no please go away ()
Date: August 20, 2016 02:07PM

Charge everyone a dollar to join and you can post all the naked boys you want, no one else cares

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: your prayer is answered ()
Date: August 20, 2016 02:18PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 11:30AM

South County Scrimmaged Western Branch Friday 44-0 Western Branch looked like a JV Club against South County & they appear ready for their Week Battle against Westfield.

AllMETSports:

Camp Countdown: South County is all in to reach Week 15 and get redemption

After South County lost its only game last season to the eventual Virginia 6A state champion, the Stallions won’t settle for falling one game short of the state final again this year.

2015 record: 13-1, lost to Westfield in Va. 6A North region final

Returning starters: 5 offense / 5 defense

Style of play: Up tempo spread option / 8-man front

Key Returning Players: WR Dillon Spalding, Jr. (68 receptions, 1,232 yards, 13 touchdowns); WR Nate Avery, Sr. (24 rec., 353 yards, four touchdowns); DB Veronta Jones, Sr.; DB Garrett Reaves, Sr.; QB Michael Salisbury Sr. (30 for 53 passing, 508 yards, four touchdowns)

Toughest matchups

Sep. 9 vs. Westfield — The Stallions get an early chance at redemption when the team that ended their 2015 season visits Lorton for the second game of the 2016 campaign. South County was the only team to beat Westfield a year ago in the regular season before the Bulldogs went on to win the state title.

Nov. 4 vs. Lake Braddock — The Stallions close the regular season with a matchup that will almost certainly have postseason implications. Last year, South County won the Conference 7 title and earned the top seed in the playoffs with its 33-30 overtime win against Lake Braddock in the regular season finale.

The Skinny

A few South County football players dogged it across the field before the final drill of another fast-paced practice in Lorton Wednesday, so Coach Gerry Pannoni’s voice soon pierced through the whistles and grunts that fill the air during the preseason.

“We ain’t done,” Pannoni yelled. “Somebody lied to you.”

Unintentionally, he had just summed up what this Stallions’ training camp is all about.

Though the top passer and top three rushers are all gone from a team that went undefeated during last year’s regular season before losing to eventual Virginia 6A state champion Westfield in the region final, South County enters this fall eager to redeem itself with the school’s first state title.

[Breaking down the best matchups of the 2016 VHSL football schedule]

The locker room is plastered with “40-8” posters, a constant reminder of the final score when Westfield ended the Stallions’ postseason last November. Players and coaches constantly refer to “Week 15” because that’s when the Virginia 6A state final would be and anything less than reaching that week would mean what happened at the end of last year would be for naught.
A blowout loss to Westfield in the Virginia 6A North region title game was a tough pill to swallow for Coach Gerry Pannoni and the Stallions. (John McDonnell / The Washington Post) A blowout loss to Westfield in the Virginia 6A North region title game was a tough pill to swallow for Coach Gerry Pannoni and the Stallions. (John McDonnell / The Washington Post)

“Everything we’ve done is focused on getting ourselves back to that week and getting the job done and finishing the job,” Pannoni said. “When that game ended, as a coach, you felt like your season was 1-13 because you just got your tail between your legs leaving the field.”

Added senior Nate Avery: “Knowing that we got beat that bad, that definitely left us hungry for this offseason.”

The formula for success this fall largely remains the same. South County will continue to crank up the tempo like few in the Washington area do with a spread offense that features a triple option rushing attack and a diverse set of receivers. The defense will also rely on speed, with an amorphous eight-man front that Pannoni hopes can take advantage of how many athletes the Stallions have on that side of the ball.

If there was any doubt about the way South County wants to play, the theme was emblazoned on its practice jerseys Wednesday. The defense wore black tops with “RELENTLESS” printed on the front. The offense wore a yellow version with “TEMPO” in bold lettering. As safety Veronta Jones noted, the goal is often to snap the ball every nine seconds after a play call is received. Here’s an example of the pace:

The tempo at South County football practice today was relentless. This video ends w/ a Dillon Spalding TD. #allmets pic.twitter.com/mefZ9hCuAE

— Mark Giannotto (@mgiannotto) August 3, 2016

But many of the names will be different for South County this fall, aside from junior wide receiver Dillion Spalding, who was one of the area’s top playmakers a year ago. He’ll be joined by senior receiver Nate Avery and junior Seth Dunn on the outside, and Pannoni believes the trio of pass catchers could be as good as any in Northern Virginia.

Senior Michael Salisbury is expected to take the reins as the full-time starter at quarterback now that DeAndre Clayton is graduated, while a bevy of players try to fill the void left by running back DeMarcus Ramsey (266 carries, 1,485 yards, 21 touchdowns). Pannoni called Salisbury “a little more daring” than his predecessors, with the ability to make plays outside the pocket.

“This is my year and we’re going to take it all the way,” said Salisbury, who appeared at quarterback in four games last year and finished second on the team with 34 catches at receiver. “We have a lot of new parts, but I think these parts are mature and they know a lot more than our previous teams have. I mean usually our first few weeks in practice we’re still learning. But now, this team this year is so advanced at the offense we’re going to take this thing to the next level.”

Indeed, practice never seemed to stop Wednesday. Players shuttled back-and-forth from the sideline en masse, substituting on the fly as if South County was in the midst of an actual game. The pace can sometimes feel frantic, or even chaotic, and it’s exhausting by the end of another two-a-day session.

But following an offseason in which the regrets of one game superseded the memories forged in the other 13, these Stallions are more focused on the end goal.

“You really want to win a state championship?” Pannoni said to the entire team at the close of the third day of practice. “We can play all 15, but we’ve got to make sure we’re all in.”

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 11:41AM

by BigDrop @ DC SportsFan.com



Last preseason scrimmage for DM against the preseason #2 and defending Virginia large school state champion, Westfield. DeMatha plays preseason #1 next Friday night in Virginia Beach (Chesapeake***) in their first regular season game.

It was not as close as the score implies...

DeMatha scored on three of its first four posessions, two with 60-70 yard plays. Despite a number of penalties Westfield could not stop DM all night. Westfield's only score came on a fumble recovery after a hard hit and running the ball back 40 or 50 yards. I am guessing that for the entire night Westfield did not have more than 25 yards on a series of downs. First team to first team I only remember one first down for them and that was after a five yard penalty.

Westfield has an outstanding punter (52 yards on the fly from the line of scrimmage on one) who had ample opportunity to display his skill.

There was a real sense of expectation for this scrimmage: Westfield returned a lot of players and has a very real chance to repeat as the Virginia Division 6 state champion.

DeMatha took the game seriously.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: OFFENSE For The Meals Tax ()
Date: August 21, 2016 11:44AM

Fairfax football can't be all that it can be without funding. So, we need to PUMP UP THE OFFENSE. Get out the vote for the meals tax! Stand shoulder to shoulder against crooked businesses, socialist labor unions, sleazy actresses working as servers and others standing in the way of this great plan for the county!
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 11:55AM

VAPreps.com review of the South County vs Western Branch Scrimmage

Video Interview - South County's Gerry Pannoni
Matthew Hatfield | VirginiaPreps.com

South County High School in Lorton, VA has been open since 2005. Gerry Pannoni, once an assistant at Patriot District rival West Springfield, has been the Head Football Coach of the Stallions since 2011. All the program has done under his reign is win.

In Pannoni's first season, the Stallions re-grouped from a 0-3 start to win 11 straight games and reach the Group AAA Division 5 State Championship game, where they defeated by Phoebus. They went just 6-6 the next year, but South County comes into the 2016 campaign having won 32 of the last 38 contests they have played.

Despite graduating some key members from the 2015 team that began 13-0 before falling to eventual State Champion Westfield in the 6A-North Region Championship, South County has plenty of talented players to lean on in their quest for the program's first state title this year. They open the season ranked #3 in the VirginiaPreps.com Preseason 6A Top Ten.

Coach Pannoni chatted with us following his team's scrimmage with Western Branch, unofficially a 44-0 win, to discuss some of the key contributors and look ahead to the upcoming season. You can watch that Video Interview embedded above as well as at the link below...


Watch Video Interview with South County's Gerry Pannoni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_RO0_KNlic

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 12:04PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pity Fairfax ()
Date: August 21, 2016 12:05PM

Gerry Pannoni is going to get the rug pulled out from under him. If they don't manage to get that meals tax passed up in Fairfax watch out for all kinds of funding cuts.

Instead of the usual car washes the football community needs to mobilize behind this tax. Go to the restaurants giving their workers the day off to vote against it and show them why the tax is a needed benefit for all county residents. Make peace with thr restaurants opposing it and get the school board to back off on the public attacks on these restaurants.

Without football at is core the Fairfax schools will become nothing but babysitting services for anchor babies of illegals from Honduras.
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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 12:06PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 12:09PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 03:36PM

Lake Braddock bolsters rushing attack in quest to avoid another playoff letdown
By Nick Eilerson August 11

Lake Braddock RB Ibrahim Mansaray averaged 10.8 yards per carry in 2015. (Mark Gail/For The Washington Post).

A dynamic backfield and a hulking offensive line give Lake Braddock the weapons needed to shore up a rushing attack that faltered on the big stage last year.

2015 record: 11-2, lost to Westfield in the 6A North region semifinals

Returning starters: 4 offense / 4 defense

Style of play: spread/power hybrid offense / 4-3 defense

Key returning players: RB/WR Lamont Atkins, Sr. (1,156 rushing yards, 284 receiving yards); RB/CB Ibrahim Mansaray, Sr. (717 rushing yards, 110 receiving yards); OL Jacob Laub, Sr. DE Dan Kelly, Sr., LB Raishon Pickett, Sr.

Toughest matchups

Sept. 30 at Centreville: A revamped Centreville squad should prove considerably tougher than last year’s team that fell to Lake Braddock, 33-7, especially on its home turf.

Nov. 4 at South County: A dramatic overtime victory handed South County the Conference 7 title on Lake Braddock’s home field last November. Given the way both teams are shaping up this fall, we could be in for another dazzling showdown with conference supremacy on the line.

The Skinny

Lamont Atkins took a handoff from Tyrone Crabb and burst through a seam in the line of scrimmage. But before the Lake Braddock tailback could motor into the secondary, Coach Jim Poythress was already stopping the play dead to reprimand a lineman for moving to the wrong spot.

Atkins jogged back so that the sequence could play out again. And again. And again.

It’s a monotonous practice-field scene that’s becoming more and more commonplace for a Lake Braddock squad transitioning away from the pass-happy spread attack that produced big numbers in 2013 and 2014. The Bruins continued to operate in the spread last season, but they mixed it with a power run game that kept defenses off balance to the tune of 43.5 points per game entering the 6A North region quarterfinals.

[Virginia High School League releases final realignment plan]

With more size on his hands than any team he’s coached since taking the reins at Lake Braddock in 2004, Poythress hopes an even greater emphasis on the rushing attack will push his team to a bigger stage this year.

“We’re going to try to control the ball more rather than throw it around the yard every play,” Poythress said. “We’ve had smaller teams and some skill kids where we’ve thrown it. I’d like to be able to do both.”

Jim Poythress said this team has more size than any group he’s coached since taking over at Lake Braddock in 2004. (Nick Eilerson / The Washington Post)

In each of the past three years, Lake Braddock’s fate has played out like a recurring nightmare. Westfield ended the Bruins’ season in the regional semifinals every time, its latest triumph coming in last year’s 31-7 romp that paved the way to a state championship.

Poythress entered that game confident his team would finally bound over the Bulldogs’ hurdle. After all, Westfield was coming off a dicey comeback win over South Lakes in the quarterfinals, while the Bruins had just axed a formidable Battlefield squad.

Instead, Westfield turned Lake Braddock’s newly balanced offense into a dysfunctional, one-dimensional mess that yielded 89 rushing yards, four interceptions and a single score. Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray, two of the most dynamic backs in the area, combined for just 17 yards on six carries.

[Westfield is hungry to defend its state title]

This year, Poythress hopes his beefy offensive line will be better equipped to handle even the sturdiest defensive fronts. Jacob Laub, a 6-foot-4, 330-pound behemoth, anchors a veteran unit that includes fellow seniors Josh Delgado (310 pounds), Adam Fields (290) and Jack Young (280).

The return of Atkins and Mansaray bodes well for the Bruins’ ground attack. Atkins, who switched his verbal commitment from Vanderbilt to Virginia earlier this year, brings an imposing blend of power and speed, while the 5-6 Mansaray is as savvy a ball carrier as anyone in the region. The shifty senior averaged a whopping 10.8 yards per carry last year, according to Poythress.

“Honestly, we didn’t give him the ball enough,” Poythress said.

Even with its emphasis shifting toward the run game, Lake Braddock will still look to sling the ball around this fall. Replacing Kyle Edwards under center will be either Crabb or Jack Darcy, or, more likely, both. Crabb, a senior who transferred back to the Burke school after attending Hayfield last year, has the athleticism to throw on the move while keeping defenses honest with his feet. Darcy, a 6-3 junior who led the Bruins’ junior varsity squad last year, has the size and vision to stand in the pocket and hit targets like Andrew Park, a 6-5 tight end committed to Maryland.

[South County is all in to reach Week 15, get redemption]

Lake Braddock coaches will figure out which quarterback starts after upcoming scrimmages against Hayfield and Good Counsel.

“It’s up in the air,” Poythress said. “We’re going to let them battle it out through the scrimmages. We could easily play with two quarterbacks through the season.”

Regular-season matchups against Centreville, Robinson, West Potomac and South County should pose difficult tests, but it all feels like a preview of coming attractions for a loaded Lake Braddock team starving for a championship.

“In playoff time we just need to step it up and work as a team to overcome that hump,” Atkins said. “There’s no excuses this time.”

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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 03:38PM

Seasoned Centreville squad ready to grind back into contention
By Nick Eilerson August 12

The Wildcats will look to veterans like Julian Garrett (4) to help them up their big play potential in 2016. (Doug Kapustin / For The Washington Post)

Centreville might lack the star power of its 2014 state championship team, but a well-rounded bunch of returning starters is displaying renewed hunger in the team’s first official practices. Can the Wildcats climb back to the top?

2015 record: 4-7, lost to Robinson in first round of 6A North region playoffs

Returning starters: 6 offense / 6 defense

Style of play: Wing-T offense / 4-4 defense

Key returning players: QB Jameel Siler, Sr. (970 passing yards, 10 touchdowns, 247 rushing yards); FB Julian Garrett, Sr. (1,006 rushing yards, 173 rushing attempts); WR/CB Isaiah Culver, Sr. (13 catches, 381 yards, three touchdowns); DE Caleb Brooks, Sr.

Toughest matchups

Sept. 30 vs. Lake Braddock: One week after facing two-time defending 5A North region finalist Tuscarora, the Wildcats will butt heads with a beefy Lake Braddock squad that handed them a 33-7 defeat last year.

Oct. 21 at Westfield: Like Cowboys/Redskins, you can pretty much throw out records whenever these two rivals collide. Each of their last three meetings has been decided by one score.

The Skinny

It was playing out just like any other Centreville football game. The Wildcats led Tuscarora, 28-7, early in the second quarter of their non-conference meeting last September. The rout was on, just as it had been on so many other Friday nights over the previous two years.

But this wasn’t the same Centreville team that won 27 out of 30 games en route to back-to-back 6A state championship appearances in 2013 and 2014. Twelve starters graduated from that 2014 squad. Inexperience teemed at every position. The aura of invincibility was gone.

Tuscarora trotted into the locker room with a 35-28 halftime lead before going on to win, 49-42.

[Lake Braddock bolsters rushing attack in quest to avoid playoff letdown]

The Wildcats’ only blowouts last year came at their own expense: losses to Broad Run and Lake Braddock by a combined 61 points. The rest were mostly taut nail-biters, the kind of battles Centreville will likely see again this season.

“I’m not saying I didn’t have fun beating people by a lot,” Centreville Coach Chris Haddock said, “but it’s fun being in tight games where all your decisions matter and there’s an intensity level that’s maintained throughout.”

Haddock’s boys delve into one of the state’s toughest schedules — only two of their opponents, Fairfax and Herndon, failed to make the playoffs last year — with a well-rounded group that returns its best players at every skill position.

Top o' the mornin from Centreville High. @CVHS12thMan #allmets pic.twitter.com/YMdoJF23Da

— Nick Eilerson (@NickEilerson) August 11, 2016

Leading the charge is Jameel Siler, a versatile senior who expects to operate out of the shotgun more frequently in Centreville’s smash-mouth attack this fall. Siler was the team’s only player that didn’t miss a workout this summer, improving his throwing accuracy with daily reps at the school’s William E. Trussell Jr. Stadium. He will take the occasional downfield shot at speedy wideout Isaiah Culver, but expect Siler to utilize his heightened feel for the game more frequently in the read option.

“The one thing I probably learned last season was to just slow everything down,” Siler said. “Don’t get too caught up with the defensive linemen and how big they got. Just slow everything down and do all my techniques and do what I have to do.”

Looming behind Siler in the Wildcats’ wing-T formation is Julian Garrett, a stout fullback who used a direct, no-nonsense approach to lead the team in rushing last year. The 5-foot-8, 210-pound senior possesses both the physicality to shake off contact at the line of scrimmage and the speed to break into the open field.

“I’m definitely going to bring some big plays,” Garrett said. “I think last year one thing that hurt is we were able to sustain drives but we couldn’t always finish them. We need someone to break those big plays.”

On defense Centreville will lean on Caleb Brooks, the not-so-little brother of Christian Brooks, a freshman defensive lineman at Virginia. At 6-foot-4, 230 pounds, Caleb has already picked up 10 Division I offers and will be tasked with guiding a defense looking to plug a few holes up front before the Sept. 2 season opener against Annandale.

"Preseason is like a retirement account. You've got to pay now to get paid later." — Cville Coach Chris Haddock pic.twitter.com/pdfakXcfhl

— Nick Eilerson (@NickEilerson) August 11, 2016

Haddock acknowledges that this team doesn’t approach the talent level of his state championship squads, but he’s confident that his players’ work ethic will keep them playing deep into November. Haddock’s daughter, Logan, is a junior swimmer specializing in freestyle and backstroke at James Madison University, so maybe it’s natural that the seventh-year Centreville coach invoked a young freestyler of slightly greater fame at his football practice this week.

“The reason [Katie Ledecky] is so good is that every single rep she takes in practice is like the gold medal final. That’s why she’s setting world records every time she jumps in the water,” Haddock said. “We’ve got to take that mind-set, that every rep has got to be a gold medal rep.”

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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 03:40PM

Robinson regains consistency as pieces click into place
By Nick Eilerson August 7

With continuity on the field and on the sideline, Robinson hopes improved execution will keep pushing the Rams deeper into the playoffs.

2015 record: 9-4, lost to South County in Va. 6A North region semifinals

Returning starters: 5 offense / 6 defense

Style of play: wing-T offense / 5-2 defense

Key returning players: QB Alex Miller, Sr. (414 passing yards, six touchdowns, two interceptions); RB Roman Lowery, Sr. (815 rushing yards, 131 attempts, seven touchdowns); RB/S Jacquez Stewart, Jr.; OL Nick Bernacchi, Sr.; LB Donnie Warter, Sr. (110 tackles, 7.5 sacks, five forced fumbles)

Toughest matchups:

Sept. 16 at Lake Braddock: With so much talent in both teams’ backfields, this neighborhood rivalry showdown will be a battle won at the line of scrimmage.

Oct. 14 at Westfield: Robinson players are still stewing over last October’s 3-0 gut check, when the eventual state champion Bulldogs made a late fourth-down stop inside the 1-yard line to preserve a narrow victory.

The Skinny

Scott Vossler enters his third year as Robinson’s head coach. It’s the third consecutive year that Alex Miller and Roman Lowery — Vossler’s top quarterback and running back, respectively — will be starting in the Rams’ wing-T offense. And 2016 is the third straight year — they hope — that the Rams will finish with a winning record.

These are encouraging signs for a resurgent Robinson program that was for so long a pillar of stability. The Rams’ golden era yielded two state championships, seven district titles and a 130-35 record in Mark Bendorf’s 14 seasons at the helm. But after Bendorf retired in 2011, the Rams fell on hard times, struggling to rekindle their winning ways while cycling through three different head coaches in three years.

Order appears to have been restored under Vossler. After finishing 6-5 in his first season at the Fairfax school, Vossler guided the Rams to nine wins and a 6A North region semifinal appearance last year, the furthest Robinson has delved into the postseason since falling to Landstown in the 2004 state title game.

“We think we’re in a really good spot,” Vossler said. “I think there’s been years where we had more individual talent but maybe didn’t have the team piece and the coaching staff piece completely there yet. But I think we’ve got those two at a maximum level with some very good talent.”

Robinson’s cohesion runs through a senior class that got to know Vossler as eighth-graders five years ago, when their future coach started teaching at Robinson Middle. Miller and Lowery know exactly what to expect in their final year with the Rams, as does linebacker Donnie Warner, another three-year starter who will lead the defense alongside fellow senior backer Tyler Iriondo.

“We’ve got very experienced guys that have seen all the looks and things that people will give you, and they know what adjustments we make,” Vossler said.

The Rams don’t have a lot of depth at the line of scrimmage, but they do have right tackle Nick Bernacchi. The 6-foot-3, 280-pound Navy commit will be paired alongside guard Dev Craig to pave the way for the team’s clock-killing, ground-and-pound wing-T attack, a Robinson staple that may never change. Lowery will carry a significant load as the Rams’ veteran tailback, though explosive playmaker Jacquez Stewart could be poised for a breakout junior campaign.

Returning to his old stomping grounds this year is Jordan Stanton, a former Robinson standout who has spent the past two seasons as a defensive lineman on the New York Giants’ practice squad. Stanton, who is set to be inducted into Robinson’s Hall of Fame later this year, decided to pursue his first coaching gig back home while trying to work his way back into the NFL this fall.

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“I’m still chasing my dream, and now I’m giving back to these kids, so I found the balance of my gift and my talent,” said Stanton, 25. “My talent is to play football, but my gift is to give back and inspire others. That’s starting out here.”

Former Robinson standout and New York Giant Jordan Stanton drilling the D-line at his alma mater. #allmets pic.twitter.com/3F1YCpG8Bm

— Nick Eilerson (@NickEilerson) August 4, 2016

Three of Robinson’s four losses last year came against arguably Northern Virginia’s best three teams — Westfield, South County and Lake Braddock. The other was a 35-28 season-opening defeat against West Springfield, a letdown the Rams are determined to avenge in their Sept. 2 opener this year.

The real goal, though, is to improve upon last year’s regional semifinal appearance. Postseason headway, players believe, bears the only path to restored glory at Robinson.

“Moving along in the playoffs, that’s the biggest thing,” Warter said. “We want to make a run.”

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Date: August 21, 2016 03:52PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 04:43PM

/757\ Wrote:
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> Seasoned Centreville squad ready to grind back
> into contention
> By Nick Eilerson August 12
>
> The Wildcats will look to veterans like Julian
> Garrett (4) to help them up their big play
> potential in 2016. (Doug Kapustin / For The
> Washington Post)
>
> Centreville might lack the star power of its 2014
> state championship team, but a well-rounded bunch
> of returning starters is displaying renewed hunger
> in the team’s first official practices. Can the
> Wildcats climb back to the top?
>
> 2015 record: 4-7, lost to Robinson in first round
> of 6A North region playoffs
>
> Returning starters: 6 offense / 6 defense
>
> Style of play: Wing-T offense / 4-4 defense
>
> Key returning players: QB Jameel Siler, Sr. (970
> passing yards, 10 touchdowns, 247 rushing yards);
> FB Julian Garrett, Sr. (1,006 rushing yards, 173
> rushing attempts); WR/CB Isaiah Culver, Sr. (13
> catches, 381 yards, three touchdowns); DE Caleb
> Brooks, Sr.
>
> Toughest matchups
>
> Sept. 30 vs. Lake Braddock: One week after facing
> two-time defending 5A North region finalist
> Tuscarora, the Wildcats will butt heads with a
> beefy Lake Braddock squad that handed them a 33-7
> defeat last year.
>
> Oct. 21 at Westfield: Like Cowboys/Redskins, you
> can pretty much throw out records whenever these
> two rivals collide. Each of their last three
> meetings has been decided by one score.
>
> The Skinny
>
> It was playing out just like any other Centreville
> football game. The Wildcats led Tuscarora, 28-7,
> early in the second quarter of their
> non-conference meeting last September. The rout
> was on, just as it had been on so many other
> Friday nights over the previous two years.
>
> But this wasn’t the same Centreville team that
> won 27 out of 30 games en route to back-to-back 6A
> state championship appearances in 2013 and 2014.
> Twelve starters graduated from that 2014 squad.
> Inexperience teemed at every position. The aura of
> invincibility was gone.
>
> Tuscarora trotted into the locker room with a
> 35-28 halftime lead before going on to win,
> 49-42.
>
> [Lake Braddock bolsters rushing attack in quest to
> avoid playoff letdown]
>
> The Wildcats’ only blowouts last year came at
> their own expense: losses to Broad Run and Lake
> Braddock by a combined 61 points. The rest were
> mostly taut nail-biters, the kind of battles
> Centreville will likely see again this season.
>
> “I’m not saying I didn’t have fun beating
> people by a lot,” Centreville Coach Chris
> Haddock said, “but it’s fun being in tight
> games where all your decisions matter and
> there’s an intensity level that’s maintained
> throughout.”
>
> Haddock’s boys delve into one of the state’s
> toughest schedules — only two of their
> opponents, Fairfax and Herndon, failed to make the
> playoffs last year — with a well-rounded group
> that returns its best players at every skill
> position.
>
> Top o' the mornin from Centreville High.
> @CVHS12thMan #allmets pic.twitter.com/YMdoJF23Da
>
> — Nick Eilerson (@NickEilerson) August 11,
> 2016
>
> Leading the charge is Jameel Siler, a versatile
> senior who expects to operate out of the shotgun
> more frequently in Centreville’s smash-mouth
> attack this fall. Siler was the team’s only
> player that didn’t miss a workout this summer,
> improving his throwing accuracy with daily reps at
> the school’s William E. Trussell Jr. Stadium. He
> will take the occasional downfield shot at speedy
> wideout Isaiah Culver, but expect Siler to utilize
> his heightened feel for the game more frequently
> in the read option.
>
> “The one thing I probably learned last season
> was to just slow everything down,” Siler said.
> “Don’t get too caught up with the defensive
> linemen and how big they got. Just slow everything
> down and do all my techniques and do what I have
> to do.”
>
> Looming behind Siler in the Wildcats’ wing-T
> formation is Julian Garrett, a stout fullback who
> used a direct, no-nonsense approach to lead the
> team in rushing last year. The 5-foot-8, 210-pound
> senior possesses both the physicality to shake off
> contact at the line of scrimmage and the speed to
> break into the open field.
>
> “I’m definitely going to bring some big
> plays,” Garrett said. “I think last year one
> thing that hurt is we were able to sustain drives
> but we couldn’t always finish them. We need
> someone to break those big plays.”
>
> On defense Centreville will lean on Caleb Brooks,
> the not-so-little brother of Christian Brooks, a
> freshman defensive lineman at Virginia. At
> 6-foot-4, 230 pounds, Caleb has already picked up
> 10 Division I offers and will be tasked with
> guiding a defense looking to plug a few holes up
> front before the Sept. 2 season opener against
> Annandale.
>
> "Preseason is like a retirement account.
> You've got to pay now to get paid later." —
> Cville Coach Chris Haddock
> pic.twitter.com/pdfakXcfhl
>
> — Nick Eilerson (@NickEilerson) August 11,
> 2016
>
> Haddock acknowledges that this team doesn’t
> approach the talent level of his state
> championship squads, but he’s confident that his
> players’ work ethic will keep them playing deep
> into November. Haddock’s daughter, Logan, is a
> junior swimmer specializing in freestyle and
> backstroke at James Madison University, so maybe
> it’s natural that the seventh-year Centreville
> coach invoked a young freestyler of slightly
> greater fame at his football practice this week.
>
> “The reason [Katie Ledecky] is so good is that
> every single rep she takes in practice is like the
> gold medal final. That’s why she’s setting
> world records every time she jumps in the
> water,” Haddock said. “We’ve got to take
> that mind-set, that every rep has got to be a gold
> medal rep.”

Westfield vs Centreville won't be as close as it was the last 3 match ups.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 05:00PM

Because we all know Westfield is supreme!

WINNING

WINNING

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: j37F3 ()
Date: August 21, 2016 05:01PM

/757\ Wrote:
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> by BigDrop @ DC SportsFan.com
>
>
>
> Last preseason scrimmage for DM against the
> preseason #2 and defending Virginia large school
> state champion, Westfield. DeMatha plays
> preseason #1 next Friday night in Virginia Beach
> (Chesapeake***) in their first regular season
> game.
>
> It was not as close as the score implies...
>
> DeMatha scored on three of its first four
> posessions, two with 60-70 yard plays. Despite a
> number of penalties Westfield could not stop DM
> all night. Westfield's only score came on a
> fumble recovery after a hard hit and running the
> ball back 40 or 50 yards. I am guessing that for
> the entire night Westfield did not have more than
> 25 yards on a series of downs. First team to
> first team I only remember one first down for them
> and that was after a five yard penalty.
>
> Westfield has an outstanding punter (52 yards on
> the fly from the line of scrimmage on one) who had
> ample opportunity to display his skill.
>
> There was a real sense of expectation for this
> scrimmage: Westfield returned a lot of players
> and has a very real chance to repeat as the
> Virginia Division 6 state champion.
>
> DeMatha took the game seriously.

I thought Westfield's defense was solid. They really didn't make many mistakes and were usually in good position to make plays. DeMatha just had athletes that were able to overpower undersized defenders and put some of their speed advantage to good use.

DeMatha offense looked to be in mid-season form while Westfield looked like they were having their first scrimmage of the season. Westfield kept going to the run with a diminutive RB. Passing game was one-dimensional - with every throw going to #4. I don't believe there was a single pass attempt to a TE or RB the entire evening.

DeMatha's defense was just simply stifling - they dominated what should have been a decent Westfield offense. Westfield QB has some speed and elusiveness - they should look to run him more.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 21, 2016 05:23PM

I saw the South County vs Western Branch Scrimmage... 44-0. Western Branch has a pretty good run offense but they insisted on passing & were terrible at it! SC offense operated on ALL cylinders & WB just had no answer. Our local newscaster commented that SC is bigger on the OL & DL this year compared to years past. Will the SC increased size make the difference this year? We'll know soon. This Friday!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 05:51PM

I see Westfield blowing out Centreville this year. I don't see Centreville being a contender again for a while, all the recent groups of kids are underwhelming, especially the class of '19.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 06:38PM

Westfield Rules - we will always be good, we are special, and God loves us most.

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 06:53PM

Oakton fan here - in addition to the butt hurts posting all the stupid pictures also would like to see the Westfield fans here have a bit more humility - very self absorbed. Watch out, karma can be a bitch....

Cougars forever!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:07PM

No team on this forum gets as much hate as Westfield. The fans aren't self absorbed at all, they're just very confident and excited because for the first time in a long time, they're the clear cut favorites to represent the Northern region in the big game. If Oakton were a contender, their fans would be no different.

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Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:13PM

Disagree as I have not seen Oakton, Robinson, Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County other good teams' fans nearly as self absorbed and showing such little humility. I predict the luck will turn and one of these other teams will take the NR this year. As I said Karma is a bitch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:17PM

Ha ha you are just jealous of Westfield - nanny nanny poo poo.

WINNING

WINNING

WINNING

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:17PM

I rest my case....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:31PM

Westfield is too much Wrote:
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> I rest my case....


Your retarded if you think the guy who ends all his posts with WINNING is actually a Westfield fan. He's a troll.

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Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:35PM

Westfield is too much Wrote:
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> Disagree as I have not seen Oakton, Robinson,
> Centreville, Lake Braddock, South County other
> good teams' fans nearly as self absorbed and
> showing such little humility. I predict the luck
> will turn and one of these other teams will take
> the NR this year. As I said Karma is a bitch.

You clearly haven't seen Centreville fans, SOCO and Lake Braddock haven't won anything to talk, and it's been a while since Robinson has won States or has been a favorite. And let's not act like Oakton fans weren't cocky in 2005.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:44PM

and by the way it is me, I cannot help myself because I am a bulldog fan

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 07:54PM

and for the rest of you losers that are not affiliated with Westfield


WHINING

WHINING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:07PM

Good one WF Fan - I agree, all the rest are whiners and we are the winners.

Westfield rulez!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:13PM

Thanks brother, you and I both know we are superior to these other chumps.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:13PM

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: In the crowd ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:15PM

The most concerning part to me about the Westfield dematha scrimmage had to be the lack of size and experience in the defensive secondary for Westfield. Can one of those little corners hang with Dillion Spalding? to me that's the deciding factor week two when Soco meets Wf, whether or not Spalding can take the game over and dominate those little guys on Wf. Wf front seven is very, very solid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:18PM

Of course the Westfield corners can cover. They are from Westfield so that makes them one of God's special players. Don't doubt them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:30PM

In the crowd Wrote:
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> The most concerning part to me about the Westfield
> dematha scrimmage had to be the lack of size and
> experience in the defensive secondary for
> Westfield. Can one of those little corners hang
> with Dillion Spalding? to me that's the deciding
> factor week two when Soco meets Wf, whether or not
> Spalding can take the game over and dominate those
> little guys on Wf. Wf front seven is very, very
> solid.

Nobody particularly big last year in the secondary. Scalding got shut down in the playoffs and his only big play in Week Two was against a blown coverage.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:34PM

So how dare you question thou greatest of all valiant warriors the Bulldogs of Westfield. God's gift to the masses.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FpxdH ()
Date: August 21, 2016 08:57PM

Westfield is too much Wrote:
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> Oakton fan here - in addition to the butt hurts
> posting all the stupid pictures also would like to
> see the Westfield fans here have a bit more
> humility - very self absorbed. Watch out, karma
> can be a bitch....
>
> Cougars forever!

C'mon man. Westfield lost 4 northern region championships in a row. One an upset to Oakton. I think we know a lot about humility. If you think we are self-absorbed because we like to talk about football... not much can be said about that.

Westfield just isn't classy like their rivals?
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Posted by: in the Crowd 2 ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:25PM

Westfield Small Corners...in the Crowd....1st week 2 does not mean anything to Westfield..Ask South County which win they would Rather Have Week 2 or Week 14...Second if you really think it will be one of "those" Guys covering Spalding you don't know Westfield Football....and For the Oakton Sap...the reason your team is 5-5 you guys are as clueless on the field as you are reading a silly on-line Blog post...The Winning/Shinning WFFan-Bulldog Booster guy are one in the Same and he is not a Westfield Fan...Kharma is being to stupid to realize how stupid you are...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: in the Crowd 2 ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:34PM

So stop questioning Westfield, we are the best and always will be.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:35PM

Winning

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:44PM

EFF YOU ASSHOLES - OAKTON BOYS GOING COME LOOKING FOR YOU THIS YEAR...GET READY

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: your too much! ()
Date: August 21, 2016 09:54PM

Go home Daido...no skill no Win...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 10:02PM

There will be a lot of teams looking to put a smack on the pompous Westfield puppies. Watch out, karma baby.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is too much ()
Date: August 21, 2016 10:18PM

True.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Most Impressive ()
Date: August 21, 2016 10:21PM

Westfield is too much Wrote:
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> True.


I think last years team was more impressive than 03 and 07 cause the school had 3000+ kids whereas last year team there were only around 2500 kids at Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vhsl ()
Date: August 21, 2016 10:33PM

Plan for next year. What you think? With Robinson back in the (mostly) old Patriot District will that be the football power district going forward?

LB+SoCo+Rob > Westfield+Centreville+Chantilly?


6A Region 3 (18 schools)

District 3: Annandale, Hayfield, Mount Vernon, T.C. Williams, West Potomac

District 4: Fairfax, Lake Braddock, Robinson, South County, West Springfield, W.T. Woodson

Eastern District: Colgan, Forest Park, Freedom-Woodbridge, Gar-Field, Hylton, Potomac (5A West Region), Woodbridge

6A Region 4 (17 schools)

District 1: Centreville, Chantilly, Madison, Oakton, Westfield

District 2: Herndon, Langley, McLean, South Lakes, Washington-Lee, Yorktown

Western District: Battlefield, Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Patriot, Stonewall Jackson

5A North Region (13 schools)

Potomac District: Briar Woods, Broad Run, Champe, Freedom-South Riding, Potomac Falls, Rock Ridge, Stone Bridge, Tuscarora

District 5: Edison, Falls Church, Jefferson, Lee, Marshall (6A Region 4), Stuart (6A Region 3), Wakefield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield supporter ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:35AM

Does not matter Westfield will rule anywhere it plays. We are god favored.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:47AM

Yes Westfield is favored by the almighty father.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is sick ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:53AM

After all the rules infractions and drinking and other stuff looks like Westfield might instead be favored by the almighty SATAN. Nothing like selling your collective soul to the devil.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: true dat ()
Date: August 22, 2016 08:43AM

Agree there is something going on behind the scenes at Westfield. In reality a less than stellar program that does a lot of covering up infractions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Falls Church Football Fail ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:47AM

Fundraising, again, at Giant without permission. Looks like this will cause some problems for the Jags.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hot Stuff Coming Through ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:53AM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2016 10:04AM

The most concerning part to me about the Westfield dematha scrimmage had to be the lack of size and experience in the defensive secondary for Westfield. Can one of those little corners hang with Dillion Spalding? to me that's the deciding factor week two when Soco meets Wf, whether or not Spalding can take the game over and dominate those little guys on Wf. Wf front seven is very, very solid.

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If they were smart WF defensive coaches would have #36 move to safety, that's his true position, not MLB. He appears to be a tough kid, not afraid of contact but doesn't look comfortable at MLB. Then start #42 at the vacated MLB position, he played very well this past Friday night. The corners should be #6 when he returns from his injury and #1. The latter also played well, good speed and physicality out there. The only real weakness displayed from the D was #19 & #20, both too small and not physical enough to compete against varsity level players. The D line looked very good, #23 is a BEAST!

On the offensive side of the ball their best running back didn't play, nursing a minor knee injury. They also were missing their big WR, knee issue as well, expected to return soon. If you remember last year WF really didn't have a star running back but were still able to run well, especially come the playoffs. Their QB will add a dimension they haven't had in awhile and that's when he runs, very athletic. What I don't understand is why they didn't get their big TE involved, one of their best players and I think he only caught one pass.

Have watched the last 6 of these Dematha- WF scrimmages, really looked like the previous 5. It's just tough to compete against a high profile private school that recruits. They're nationally ranked for a reason, they're big, physical, fast, and very well coached. It seems the purpose of this game is to remind the WF players what real competition is all about. Plus, I don't see anyone on their schedule that compares to the Stags so I think the Bulldogs will be okay.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 22, 2016 10:30AM

It really comes down to how may niggers you have in your school.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CougarFan ()
Date: August 22, 2016 11:03AM

Heard Oakton got their butts handed to them at South Lakes on Friday.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 713 riverview Court Sterling ()
Date: August 22, 2016 12:11PM

I like watching you boys play football
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lessons learned from football ()
Date: August 22, 2016 12:25PM

Falls Church Football Fail Wrote:
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> Fundraising, again, at Giant without permission.
> Looks like this will cause some problems for the
> Jags.

The coach must be so proud, those kids are exerting their sense of privilege and entitlement before the season even begins.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bull DOGG FAN ()
Date: August 22, 2016 12:47PM

#36 is a solid Physical Tackler, Moved from safety because of Speed Issues, Westfield has enough slow Kids in the Secondary, #42 cant shed a block would struggle against most teams #19 although undersized was not afraid, however best serves the team long snapping. Bare in mind only 1 - or 2 other teams will have the size and talent of Dematha, by then #20 will have matured and healed his Pride, Varsity Football its for Real. #23 Rivers will emerge as one of the Better Defensive Players in the Northern Region.

Offensively, the Running Game is following the Template of Last year, running back by committee until people get Healthy and the Line is Solidified, Eckert will contribute upon his return, freeing up #4 a little, as well the Big TE was Locked into a Stalemate all game With Chase Waters...#3 DE End in the Nation, 5-Star Ohio State commit. THe QB will get his Yards both in the air and on the ground..it will all come together, knowing what you saw in week 1 will be different than week #10 and Yes this scrimmage went the way most Dematha Scrimmages go... A little Hurt Pride and Not Many Hurt Players.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pride of Fairfax ()
Date: August 22, 2016 12:54PM

Bull DOGG FAN Wrote:
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> #36 is a solid Physical Tackler, Moved from safety
> because of Speed Issues, Westfield has enough slow
> Kids in the Secondary, #42 cant shed a block would
> struggle against most teams #19 although
> undersized was not afraid, however best serves the
> team long snapping. Bare in mind only 1 - or 2
> other teams will have the size and talent of
> Dematha, by then #20 will have matured and healed
> his Pride, Varsity Football its for Real. #23
> Rivers will emerge as one of the Better Defensive
> Players in the Northern Region.
>
> Offensively, the Running Game is following the
> Template of Last year, running back by committee
> until people get Healthy and the Line is
> Solidified, Eckert will contribute upon his
> return, freeing up #4 a little, as well the Big TE
> was Locked into a Stalemate all game With Chase
> Waters...#3 DE End in the Nation, 5-Star Ohio
> State commit. THe QB will get his Yards both in
> the air and on the ground..it will all come
> together, knowing what you saw in week 1 will be
> different than week #10 and Yes this scrimmage
> went the way most Dematha Scrimmages go... A
> little Hurt Pride and Not Many Hurt Players.

Wee kant spell oar right but wee got skool spee-rit and luvs us sum FOOTBALL.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2016 03:50PM

Between the inter-squad and Dematha scrimmages there have been a few pancakes served on the Westfield line backing corps. Good thing there are some big bodies on that D-line. It appeared #42 looks to have a better feel for the position and made a few nice plays against Dematha. As you stated, there aren't going to be any teams that Westfield will face with O-lineman the size they faced on Friday night.I just think their secondary would be better served by a sure, physical tackler which #36 appears to be. Huling last year was a tremendous safety, he was not a fast kid by any stretch and served that position well. I don't have faith in the notion #20 is going to get better with time. His biggest problem is size and strength, or a tremendous lack there of. In the defense Westfield plays you've got to have a secondary that can tackle, #20 does not posses that, no matter how many reps it's not going to make up for his diminutive size.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: who cares? ()
Date: August 22, 2016 04:22PM

In a year, even six months, what difference will any of this make?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2016 05:21PM

WE CARE EVERYONE CARES AS WESTFIELD IS GOD'S CHOSEN SCHOOL

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is da only ()
Date: August 22, 2016 06:46PM

Lets make this the Westfield shrine site since we all know that is the only local football team that really matters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: p9bWu ()
Date: August 22, 2016 06:52PM

who cares? Wrote:
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> In a year, even six months, what difference will
> any of this make?

None to you. But yet you sought out a thread containing subject matter you despise and bothered to comment on it. Clearly it holds some difference-making meaning to you. Seek help from a psychoanalyst for the answer to your problem.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: p9bWu ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:15PM

By the way I agree with the earlier post that we should make this a 24 hour a day Westfield only site as they are the only real team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:27PM

I say just ignore the juvenile troll & keep posting our information and keep debating. That's what this site is all about.

Already had some upsets of Nationally Ranked Teams. Expect More this Week. Of Course, I,m hoping Smith knocks off DeMatha Friday Night! If not, a loss usually doesn't prevent Oscar Smith from being being favored to return to the STATE Championship Game. They were routed Week 1 by Gilman in 2011, the last time they won a STATE Title!

http://therealprepnation.blogspot.com/2016/08/preseason-prepnation-national-prep.html

PrepNation East Coast Regional Poll:

EAST COAST
1. DeMatha HS (Hyattsville, Md.)
2. Mallard Creek HS (Charlotte, N.C.)
3. Northwestern HS (Rock Hill, S.C.)
4. Fort Dorchester HS (North Charleston, S.C.)
5. Good Counsel HS (Olney, Md.)
6. Westfield HS (Chantilly, Va.)
7. Highland Springs HS (Va.)
8. Scotland HS (Laurinburg, N.C.)
9. Saint Johns College HS (Washington)
10. South Pointe HS (Rock Hill, S.C.)
11. Dorman HS (Roebuck, S.C.)
12. Dudley HS (Greensboro, N.C.)
13. Oscar Smith HS (Chesapeake, Va.) *****NOT VA Beach******
14. Gilman School (Baltimore, Md.)
15. Gonzaga HS (Washington)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:30PM

Even though I know Oscar Smith cheats, and I have a small penis too

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:32PM

plus I know that everyone in the 757 cheats, especially Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:36PM

2016 Southeastern District football preview: Lots of changes, but Oscar Smith again should dominate

By Jami Frankenberry
The Virginian-Pilot
7 hrs ago

Three new faces are patrolling the sidelines this season, but don’t expect changes at the top of the Southeastern District.

Oscar Smith has dominated the district for more than a decade, and despite some close calls last season – 15-14 vs. Indian River and 23-21 vs. Western Branch – the Tigers are again the favorites.

Coach Bill Dee inherits from Richard Morgan, who left to coach Marietta (Ga.) High, a talented crop of players who were sophomores and juniors last season during a run to the Group 6A state championship game. Then there's the program's 82-game district winning streak and a stretch of 12 consecutive district titles.

Dee, though, had his own impressive run of success at Phoebus, where he led the Hampton school to four state championships, before becoming an assistant at Christopher Newport and then Old Dominion.

Meanwhile, Oscar Smith quarterback Shon Mitchell, heading into his fourth varsity season, is poised for a run at the Virginia High School League’s all-time passing record.

Elsewhere, first-year head coaches Scottie Littles (King’s Fork) and Steve O’Neal (Great Bridge) take over programs, while on the field some marquee names graduated.

A look at each team in predicted order of finish:
1. Oscar Smith Tigers

Classification: Group 6A

Coach: Bill Dee, first season at Oscar Smith; 243-76-1 in 28 seasons overall.

Last season: 13-1 overall, 9-0 district.

Impact players: LB Keshon Artis, 6-1, 220, jr.; WR Larry Chapel, 6-0, 160, sr.; DB Branden Delbridge, 5-9, 165, sr.; CB Jahmeek Jones, 5-10, 185, sr.; QB Shon Mitchell, 5-11, 170, sr.; LB Khalik Perry, 5-11, 185, sr.; RB/DB Deangelo White, 5-9, 160, jr.

On the field: Mitchell, committed to William and Mary, has 8,109 passing yards, and 2,616 more will tie former Oscar Smith star Phillip Sims atop the VHSL career list. Mitchell’s lowest season total was 2,441 as a freshman. Along with Mitchell, the offense welcomes back South Hampton Roads’ top returning receiver in Chapel (77 receptions, 1,266 yards). White saw time in the backfield last season and is expected to become a primary ball carrier. Dee had his share of run-oriented offenses at Phoebus, but he also led teams that featured QB Tajh Boyd (3,505 yards over his two final seasons) and was an assistant at pass-happy ODU. Defensively, there’s no shortage of hard-hitters, led by returning standouts Artis and Perry.
2. Indian River Braves

Classification: Group 5A

Coach: Glenwood Ferebee, 19-7 in two seasons at Indian River; 43-36 in seven seasons overall.

Last season: 11-3 overall, 7-2 district.

Impact players: QB Keyshawn Brown, 5-10, 170, sr.; L Bruce Boone, 6-3, 315, sr.; WR/DB Devon Hunter, 6-2, 210, sr.; WR/DB Germeek Knight, 5-10, 165, sr.; L Keenan Moore, 6-3, 245, sr.

On the field: The Braves rebounded from a devastating last-minute regular-season loss to Oscar Smith to reach the 5A South Region championship game. Some key contributors graduated, including QB Tyre Givers-Wilson (Norfolk State), RB Tyain Smith (VMI) and linebackers Jaquan Yulee (Marshall) and Tavante Beckett (VirginiaTech).This team, though, is loaded with speed, and transfer Brown (Granby) gives the Braves an experienced signal-caller. Hunter is a playmaker and figures to see the ball – and play multiple positions – plenty after catching 24 passes last season. Up front, Moore is a returning captain and Boone was a second-team all-state pick, while an upcoming prospect – TE/LB Ah’sawn Moore – and transfers D’Jon Askew (Cox) and Demetrius Green (Oscar Smith) add to the depth.
3. Western Branch Bruins

Classification: Group 6A

Coach: Greg Gibson, 32-14 in four seasons.

Last season: 6-5 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: TE/DE Jalen Alexander, 6-4, 275, jr.; LB Alex Barteau, 5-10, 185, sr.; RB/WR/DB Keith Bryant, 5-9, 185, sr.; WR/S Zavion Hunt, 5-11, 200, sr.; L Clint Marshall, 6-4, 295, sr.

On the field: The Bruins welcome back 16 starters from a team that came within a whisker of knocking off Oscar Smith. The offense has playmakers, including 1,000-yard rusher Bryant and Brandon Byrd (569 regular-season yards), and a sizeable front line led by William and Mary commit Marshall. That should help ease the transition of new QB Dominique Brooks, a sophomore who last season was the junior varsity starter. The defense has eight returning starters after permitting fewer than 200 yards per game last season, with a big front line and solid linebacking corps headed by Barteau, Byrd, Horace Sawyer and Jayvon Sparrow.
4. Grassfield Grizzlies

Classification: Group 6A

Coach: Martin Asprey, 62-34 in nine seasons.

Last season: 8-4 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: QB/P Justice Bigbie, 6-3, 210, sr.; RB/LB Darius Hagans, 5-11, 190, sr.; L Seth Harrell, 6-4, 315, sr.; RB/WR/LB Shawndell Joyner, 6-2, 195, sr.; WR/DB Austin Wood, 6-3, 190, sr.

On the field: The chief concern is replacing the production of Grant Holloway, who graduated and headed to Florida after a play-making season on offense, defense and special teams. But Bigbie returns after throwing for 1,594 yards, and he has some experience around him. Hagans (444 rushing yards) and Joyner both saw time in the backfield, and Wood – a transfer from Great Bridge committed to Old Dominion – gives Bigbie (13 TDs, six INTs) a go-to target. Linemen Harrell and Collin Reese are a force on both sides of the ball.
5. Nansemond River Warriors

Classification: Group 5A

Coach: David Coccoli, 12-9 in two seasons at Nansemond River.

Last season: 7-4 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: WR/DB Quincy Gregg, 6-2, 190, jr.; LB Henry Moreno, 5-10, 215, sr.; WR/LB Gerard Stringer, 6-2, 190, jr.; RB/DB Javon Waller, 5-8, 175, jr.; L Elijah White, 5-10, 240, sr.

On the field: The Warriors took big strides in Coccoli’s second season, matching their highest win total since 2002 and collecting a convincing win over Grassfield. There are holes to fill after the graduation of two-time 1,000-yard rusher Terrence Lambert and standout lineman Thomas Jarrett Hopple (Virginia Tech), but plenty of experience remains. The speedy Waller saw time in the backfield last year, and Stringer and transfer Gregg (King’s Fork) give new QB Dyquan McGhee solid options. In the trenches, three-year starter White is joined by veterans Dia Gray and Brandon Reese, and two-time all-district pick Moreno anchors the linebackers.
6. King’s Fork Bulldogs

Classification: Group 4A

Coach: Scottie Littles, first season at King’s Fork.

Last season: 6-6 overall, 4-5 district.

Impact players: RB/WR Darran Butts, 5-8, 180, jr.; DB Terrell Hart, 6-0, 185, jr.; DL Xavier Ramsey, 6-2, 280, sr.; WR/DB Chris Shearin, 5-11, 175, soph.; OL Austin Williams, 6-4, 300, sr.

On the field: Littles, who won a state championship as a player at Landstown, takes over a program that Joe Jones led to four consecutive playoff appearances before leaving for Ocean Lakes. Star RB Deshaun Wethington – the school’s all-time leading rusher – graduated and headed to Towson. Butts is the likely successor, and he’ll have holdovers Ramsey and Williams to run behind. Shearin and Hart anchor the defense, which also has returning linebackers Tim Gronkoski and Bryan Walker. “We want to lay our foundation for the future as well as compete at a high level this year,” Littles said. “We are not looking at this as rebuilding.”
7. Lakeland Cavaliers

Classification: Group 3A

Coach: Kevin Knight, 2-8 in one season at Lakeland.

Last season: 3-9 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: RB/LB DeAndre Faulk, 6-0, 205, jr.; WR/DB Alajuwun Langston, 5-8, 150, sr.; RB Damontra Milteer, 5-8, 155, sr.; WR/DB Deondre Little, 5-10, 165, jr.; L Garrett Whitley, 6-1, 255, sr.

On the field: The Cavaliers last season won two regular-season games, but made the 3A East playoffs as the sixth seed and upended No. 3 Park View-South Hill. Knight is hoping to build on that with a stable of running backs, led by Faulk and Milteer, that saw significant playing time. Returning starting QB Tyquon Holloman and linemen Whitley and Jayree Hardy also will help on offense. Knight also expects the defense to improve with a solid linebacking corps led by Faulk, Ricardo Ray, Kory Lawrence and Demetrius McKinney.
8. Deep Creek Hornets

Classification: Group 4A

Coach: Calvin Copeland, 6-34 in four seasons.

Last season: 3-7 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: FB/LB Chris Green, 6-0, 205, sr.; QB/DB Jaylen Jefferson, 5-10, 170, sr.; FB/LB Tileek Lawrence, 5-10, 170, sr.; RB/LB D’angelo Mullen-Morrison, 5-11, 175, sr.; L Reggie White, 6-0, 215, jr.

On the field: Copeland, after a winless 2014, believes the Hornets took steps in the right direction last season, and a season-ending victory over King’s Fork gave them a boost heading into the offseason. “We have a lot of returning starters that will lead this team to be better than last year,” Copeland said. “This team worked hard in the offseason. They believe in the process. They believe in the team.” On offense, Jefferson – a “dynamic player on both sides,” Copeland said – is back along with Mullen-Morrison in the backfield and White on the line. Defensive leader Green also has experience around him, including fellow LBs Lawrence and Mullen-Morrison.
9. Hickory Hawks

Classification: Group 5A

Coach: Jupiter Wilson, 15-35 in five seasons.

Last season: 3-7 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: QB Jackson Childress, 6-2, 190, sr.; WR/DB/K/P Tommy Martin, 5-11, 175, sr.; RB Michael Ragudo, 5-10, 175, sr.; TE/L Tyler Trexler, 6-3, 275, sr.; FB/LB Steven Wadkins, 5-10, 205, sr.

On the field: Childress takes over behind center full-time after getting some experience last season, and running backs Ragudo and Eric Gamboni also return. Trexler, described as “tough as nails” by Wilson, gives the Hawks a stalwart on the line. That quartet should provide more consistency to an offense that was held to a touchdown or less seven times last season. Wadkins returns to lead the defense, while Martin was an All-Tidewater punter last season, averaging 40.2 per kick.
10. Great Bridge Wildcats

Classification: Group 4A

Coach: Steve O’Neal, first season at Great Bridge.

Last season: 1-9 overall, 1-8 district.

Impact players: G/LB Logan Akers, 5-11, 210, sr.; QB/DB A.J. Frommelt, 6-1, 180, sr.; L Casey Hilton, 6-2, 210, soph.; WR/DB Chase Rosenthal, 6-0, 170, sr.; L Nick Weaver, 5-11, 205, jr.

On the field: O’Neal takes over after Pete Gale unexpectedly resigned during his 11th season last year. O’Neal, a Great Bridge alum, hopes to rejuvenate a team that limped out of the gate last season with 31 points in its first seven games and picked up its only win against Deep Creek. Frommelt, a two-way starter, is back at QB, and he has a veteran target in Rosenthal. There’s stability up front with Akers, Hilton and Weaver, and finding reliable runners for O’Neal’s wing-T offense is a priority. Akers highlights the defense.

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Posted by: 2nd year of Fairfax v Loudoun ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:42PM

A lot of interesting match-ups took place last year as the best 5A schools in Loudoun had quite a few big games against the top 6A schools in Fairfax.

As one would expect, the cream of the Fairfax crop last year did well, as Robinson defeated Stone Bridge and Broad Run. Westfield beat Stone Bridge and Briar Woods. South County also defeated Briar Woods, which was no great feat last year as Briar had their worst year in almost a decade.

What was surprising is the wins that Loudoun piled up against playoff teams in Fairfax. Broad Run beat Oakton and Centreville, as did Tuscarora. Stone Bridge beat West Springfield and Chantilly, even when their QB went down. Heck, Potomac Falls won all of their games out of conference playing the likes of Langley, Falls Church, and Marshall.

Saw Broad Run scrimmage Woodgrove and Tuscarora scrimmage Champe. Looks to me like Loudoun will be down a bit this year. None of the Big Four in Loudoun return their quarterback, so that will be difficult, to say the least. Still, we should enjoy these match-ups this year, because they could be long gone by next.

Three 4A Loudoun schools have been reclassified to 5A, so Loudoun could easily shift to an all-Loudoun schedule. I like the games. I think they are high scoring and the teams well-coached.

Westfield would seem to be the only Fairfax team that will roll their Loudoun opponents this year. Thoughts by any coherent, real high school football fans?

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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:42PM

Sorry that was kinda hard to read;


2016 Southeastern District football preview: Lots of changes, but Oscar Smith again should dominate

By Jami Frankenberry
The Virginian-Pilot
7 hrs ago

Three new faces are patrolling the sidelines this season, but don’t expect changes at the top of the Southeastern District.

Oscar Smith has dominated the district for more than a decade, and despite some close calls last season – 15-14 vs. Indian River and 23-21 vs. Western Branch – the Tigers are again the favorites.

Coach Bill Dee inherits from Richard Morgan, who left to coach Marietta (Ga.) High, a talented crop of players who were sophomores and juniors last season during a run to the Group 6A state championship game. Then there's the program's 82-game district winning streak and a stretch of 12 consecutive district titles.

Dee, though, had his own impressive run of success at Phoebus, where he led the Hampton school to four state championships, before becoming an assistant at Christopher Newport and then Old Dominion.

Meanwhile, Oscar Smith quarterback Shon Mitchell, heading into his fourth varsity season, is poised for a run at the Virginia High School League’s all-time passing record.

Elsewhere, first-year head coaches Scottie Littles (King’s Fork) and Steve O’Neal (Great Bridge) take over programs, while on the field some marquee names graduated.

A look at each team in predicted order of finish:

1. Oscar Smith Tigers Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Bill Dee, first season at Oscar Smith; 243-76-1 in 28 seasons overall.
Last season: 13-1 overall, 9-0 district.

Impact players: LB Keshon Artis, 6-1, 220, jr.; WR Larry Chapel, 6-0, 160, sr.; DB Branden Delbridge, 5-9, 165, sr.; CB Jahmeek Jones, 5-10, 185, sr.; QB Shon Mitchell, 5-11, 170, sr.; LB Khalik Perry, 5-11, 185, sr.; RB/DB Deangelo White, 5-9, 160, jr.

On the field: Mitchell, committed to William and Mary, has 8,109 passing yards, and 2,616 more will tie former Oscar Smith star Phillip Sims atop the VHSL career list. Mitchell’s lowest season total was 2,441 as a freshman. Along with Mitchell, the offense welcomes back South Hampton Roads’ top returning receiver in Chapel (77 receptions, 1,266 yards). White saw time in the backfield last season and is expected to become a primary ball carrier. Dee had his share of run-oriented offenses at Phoebus, but he also led teams that featured QB Tajh Boyd (3,505 yards over his two final seasons) and was an assistant at pass-happy ODU. Defensively, there’s no shortage of hard-hitters, led by returning standouts Artis and Perry.


2. Indian River Braves Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Glenwood Ferebee, 19-7 in two seasons at Indian River; 43-36 in seven seasons overall. Last season: 11-3 overall, 7-2 district.

Impact players: QB Keyshawn Brown, 5-10, 170, sr.; L Bruce Boone, 6-3, 315, sr.; WR/DB Devon Hunter, 6-2, 210, sr.; WR/DB Germeek Knight, 5-10, 165, sr.; L Keenan Moore, 6-3, 245, sr.

On the field: The Braves rebounded from a devastating last-minute regular-season loss to Oscar Smith to reach the 5A South Region championship game. Some key contributors graduated, including QB Tyre Givers-Wilson (Norfolk State), RB Tyain Smith (VMI) and linebackers Jaquan Yulee (Marshall) and Tavante Beckett (VirginiaTech).This team, though, is loaded with speed, and transfer Brown (Granby) gives the Braves an experienced signal-caller. Hunter is a playmaker and figures to see the ball – and play multiple positions – plenty after catching 24 passes last season. Up front, Moore is a returning captain and Boone was a second-team all-state pick, while an upcoming prospect – TE/LB Ah’sawn Moore – and transfers D’Jon Askew (Cox) and Demetrius Green (Oscar Smith) add to the depth.


3. Western Branch Bruins Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Greg Gibson, 32-14 in four seasons. Last season: 6-5 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: TE/DE Jalen Alexander, 6-4, 275, jr.; LB Alex Barteau, 5-10, 185, sr.; RB/WR/DB Keith Bryant, 5-9, 185, sr.; WR/S Zavion Hunt, 5-11, 200, sr.; L Clint Marshall, 6-4, 295, sr.

On the field: The Bruins welcome back 16 starters from a team that came within a whisker of knocking off Oscar Smith. The offense has playmakers, including 1,000-yard rusher Bryant and Brandon Byrd (569 regular-season yards), and a sizeable front line led by William and Mary commit Marshall. That should help ease the transition of new QB Dominique Brooks, a sophomore who last season was the junior varsity starter. The defense has eight returning starters after permitting fewer than 200 yards per game last season, with a big front line and solid linebacking corps headed by Barteau, Byrd, Horace Sawyer and Jayvon Sparrow.


4. Grassfield Grizzlies Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Martin Asprey, 62-34 in nine seasons. Last season: 8-4 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: QB/P Justice Bigbie, 6-3, 210, sr.; RB/LB Darius Hagans, 5-11, 190, sr.; L Seth Harrell, 6-4, 315, sr.; RB/WR/LB Shawndell Joyner, 6-2, 195, sr.; WR/DB Austin Wood, 6-3, 190, sr.

On the field: The chief concern is replacing the production of Grant Holloway, who graduated and headed to Florida after a play-making season on offense, defense and special teams. But Bigbie returns after throwing for 1,594 yards, and he has some experience around him. Hagans (444 rushing yards) and Joyner both saw time in the backfield, and Wood – a transfer from Great Bridge committed to Old Dominion – gives Bigbie (13 TDs, six INTs) a go-to target. Linemen Harrell and Collin Reese are a force on both sides of the ball.



5. Nansemond River Warriors Classification: Group 5A
Coach: David Coccoli, 12-9 in two seasons at Nansemond River. Last season: 7-4 overall, 6-3 district.

Impact players: WR/DB Quincy Gregg, 6-2, 190, jr.; LB Henry Moreno, 5-10, 215, sr.; WR/LB Gerard Stringer, 6-2, 190, jr.; RB/DB Javon Waller, 5-8, 175, jr.; L Elijah White, 5-10, 240, sr.

On the field: The Warriors took big strides in Coccoli’s second season, matching their highest win total since 2002 and collecting a convincing win over Grassfield. There are holes to fill after the graduation of two-time 1,000-yard rusher Terrence Lambert and standout lineman Thomas Jarrett Hopple (Virginia Tech), but plenty of experience remains. The speedy Waller saw time in the backfield last year, and Stringer and transfer Gregg (King’s Fork) give new QB Dyquan McGhee solid options. In the trenches, three-year starter White is joined by veterans Dia Gray and Brandon Reese, and two-time all-district pick Moreno anchors the linebackers.


6. King’s Fork Bulldogs Classification: Group 4A
Coach: Scottie Littles, first season at King’s Fork. Last season: 6-6 overall, 4-5 district.

Impact players: RB/WR Darran Butts, 5-8, 180, jr.; DB Terrell Hart, 6-0, 185, jr.; DL Xavier Ramsey, 6-2, 280, sr.; WR/DB Chris Shearin, 5-11, 175, soph.; OL Austin Williams, 6-4, 300, sr.

On the field: Littles, who won a state championship as a player at Landstown, takes over a program that Joe Jones led to four consecutive playoff appearances before leaving for Ocean Lakes. Star RB Deshaun Wethington – the school’s all-time leading rusher – graduated and headed to Towson. Butts is the likely successor, and he’ll have holdovers Ramsey and Williams to run behind. Shearin and Hart anchor the defense, which also has returning linebackers Tim Gronkoski and Bryan Walker. “We want to lay our foundation for the future as well as compete at a high level this year,” Littles said. “We are not looking at this as rebuilding.”


7. Lakeland Cavaliers Classification: Group 3A
Coach: Kevin Knight, 2-8 in one season at Lakeland. Last season: 3-9 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: RB/LB DeAndre Faulk, 6-0, 205, jr.; WR/DB Alajuwun Langston, 5-8, 150, sr.; RB Damontra Milteer, 5-8, 155, sr.; WR/DB Deondre Little, 5-10, 165, jr.; L Garrett Whitley, 6-1, 255, sr.

On the field: The Cavaliers last season won two regular-season games, but made the 3A East playoffs as the sixth seed and upended No. 3 Park View-South Hill. Knight is hoping to build on that with a stable of running backs, led by Faulk and Milteer, that saw significant playing time. Returning starting QB Tyquon Holloman and linemen Whitley and Jayree Hardy also will help on offense. Knight also expects the defense to improve with a solid linebacking corps led by Faulk, Ricardo Ray, Kory Lawrence and Demetrius McKinney.


8. Deep Creek Hornets Classification: Group 4A
Coach: Calvin Copeland, 6-34 in four seasons. Last season: 3-7 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: FB/LB Chris Green, 6-0, 205, sr.; QB/DB Jaylen Jefferson, 5-10, 170, sr.; FB/LB Tileek Lawrence, 5-10, 170, sr.; RB/LB D’angelo Mullen-Morrison, 5-11, 175, sr.; L Reggie White, 6-0, 215, jr.

On the field: Copeland, after a winless 2014, believes the Hornets took steps in the right direction last season, and a season-ending victory over King’s Fork gave them a boost heading into the offseason. “We have a lot of returning starters that will lead this team to be better than last year,” Copeland said. “This team worked hard in the offseason. They believe in the process. They believe in the team.” On offense, Jefferson – a “dynamic player on both sides,” Copeland said – is back along with Mullen-Morrison in the backfield and White on the line. Defensive leader Green also has experience around him, including fellow LBs Lawrence and Mullen-Morrison.


9. Hickory Hawks Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Jupiter Wilson, 15-35 in five seasons. Last season: 3-7 overall, 2-7 district.

Impact players: QB Jackson Childress, 6-2, 190, sr.; WR/DB/K/P Tommy Martin, 5-11, 175, sr.; RB Michael Ragudo, 5-10, 175, sr.; TE/L Tyler Trexler, 6-3, 275, sr.; FB/LB Steven Wadkins, 5-10, 205, sr.

On the field: Childress takes over behind center full-time after getting some experience last season, and running backs Ragudo and Eric Gamboni also return. Trexler, described as “tough as nails” by Wilson, gives the Hawks a stalwart on the line. That quartet should provide more consistency to an offense that was held to a touchdown or less seven times last season. Wadkins returns to lead the defense, while Martin was an All-Tidewater punter last season, averaging 40.2 per kick.


10. Great Bridge Wildcats Classification: Group 4A
Coach: Steve O’Neal, first season at Great Bridge. Last season: 1-9 overall, 1-8 district.

Impact players: G/LB Logan Akers, 5-11, 210, sr.; QB/DB A.J. Frommelt, 6-1, 180, sr.; L Casey Hilton, 6-2, 210, soph.; WR/DB Chase Rosenthal, 6-0, 170, sr.; L Nick Weaver, 5-11, 205, jr.

On the field: O’Neal takes over after Pete Gale unexpectedly resigned during his 11th season last year. O’Neal, a Great Bridge alum, hopes to rejuvenate a team that limped out of the gate last season with 31 points in its first seven games and picked up its only win against Deep Creek. Frommelt, a two-way starter, is back at QB, and he has a veteran target in Rosenthal. There’s stability up front with Akers, Hilton and Weaver, and finding reliable runners for O’Neal’s wing-T offense is a priority. Akers highlights the defense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:48PM

2016 Beach District football preview: Salem looks like leader in battle with many new faces

By Larry Rubama
The Virginian-Pilot
11 hrs ago

What a difference a year makes.

Gone from the Beach District are Ocean Lakes coach Chris Scott and Salem coach Robert Jackson. Scott left in January for Bishop Sullivan Catholic and Jackson resigned earlier this month to become the athletic director at Norcom. Also gone: many of Ocean Lakes’ top players, who transferred to Bishop Sullivan with Scott.

Both Salem and Ocean Lakes, though, have new coaches with plenty of experience.

Joe Jones left King’s Fork to take the Ocean Lakes job after leading the Bulldogs to 32 victories and four playoff appearance over the past four seasons.

Shawn Wilson, a former head coach at Green Run, replaced Jackson. The Stallions were 2-58 from 2000 to 2004 but Wilson helped them make the playoffs in his first two seasons, finishing 10-2 both times. They also went to the playoffs again in 2011.

Jones and Wilson will have their teams ready to make a run at the Beach District title.

Another team to watch is Cox. The Falcons, under coach Bill Stachelski, have won six or more games the past four seasons, including nine in 2014.

The district also welcomes new coach Justin Conyers at Green Run.

A look at each Beach District team in predicted order of finish:

1. Salem SunDevils Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Shawn Wilson, first season at Salem, 37-25 in six seasons at Green Run. Last season: 8-3 overall, 8-2 district.

Impact players: CB Taeshaun Rainey, 6-0, 185, jr.; FS Taeyonn Reynolds, 6-2, 190, sr.; SS Morris Vaughan, 5-11, 215, sr.; QB Jeffrey Watson, 6-1, 185, sr.; RB Davonte Williams, 5-11, 210, sr.

On the field: Salem got some shocking news earlier this month when coach Robert Jackson announced he was leaving. But Jackson isn’t worried about his team because Wilson, an assistant the past four seasons, takes over. “I have all the confidence in the world in him,” Jackson said. “This program won’t miss a beat.” Wilson inherits some talented players, including Vaughan and Williams, who Jackson said will be two of the top players in the district this season. The SunDevils, even without Jackson, are the Beach favorites.


2. Cox Falcons Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Bill Stachelski, 53-31 in eight seasons. Last season: 8-4 overall, 7-3 district.

Impact players: T/DT Evan Couch, 6-3, 245; WR/DB Tayvion Robinson, 6-0, 175, soph.; QB/FS A.J. Smith, 6-3, 185, sr.; T/DE Jordan Williams, 6-5, 265, sr.

On the field: Coming into this season, the biggest question for the Falcons was who was going to replace QB Cole Johnson (now at James Madison). Coach Stachelski knows you can’t replace a talent like Johnson but he expects Smith to fill in nicely. He said Smith, who also plays free safety, “is every bit as dangerous as Johnson with his legs.” Defensively, the Falcons are led by Williams, who committed to Clemson, and Michael and Matthew Broccoletti, returning starters at linebacker.


3. Ocean Lakes Dolphins Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Joe Jones, first season at Ocean Lakes, 44-45 in eight seasons at King’s Fork. Last season: 13-1 overall, 10-0 district.

Impact players: DE/WR Jaevon Becton, 6-4, 240, jr.; RB Tyler Browning, 5-11, 185, jr.; WR/CB Dakare Coston, 6-3, 185, sr.; DT Eric Crosby, 6-2, 295, sr; OL Nick Low, 5-10, 240, sr.

On the field: The Dolphins have made six straight playoff appearances and own a 41-game Beach District winning streak. Jones, hired Feb. 8, said the “expectations haven’t changed.” Ocean Lakes was hit hard by transfers – most left for Bishop Sullivan to follow former coach Chris Scott – including at quarterback, running back and wide receiver. But Jones is optimistic that the Dolphins will still be contenders in the Beach District. Sophomore Nick Vogel will play quarterback with Coston (committed to Navy) and Becton at wide receiver. Also look for Crosby, committed to Tennessee, to get some carries with Browning, Niko Tauti and Shawn Hamilton. Jones is leaning on Crosby's leadership to carry the Dolphins.


4. Bayside Marlins Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Jonathan White, 20-13 in three seasons. Last season: 7-4 overall, 7-3 district.

Impact players: OL/DL Kwali Brown, 5-11, 240, sr.; WR/DB Armani Chatman, 6-1, 175, jr.; QB James Davis, 6-2, 180, sr.; OL/DL Elisha Mitchell, 6-3, 305, sr.; WR/DB Richard Smith III, 5-9, 165, sr.

On the field: The Marlins must find a way to replace QB Donte Lampley (S.C. State), who last season led South Hampton Roads during the regular season with 2,071 yards and 22 touchdowns. White likes what he sees in Davis, who has waited his turn for an opportunity. But QB isn’t the only position the Marlins must fill as they lost several key players on offense and defense due to transfers. But White is encouraged by those who stayed saying, “We have several players that are accepting and adapting to their new roles,” he said. “The sooner we can get our players to excel at these roles the more production we will have.”


5. Kellam Knights Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Chris DeWitt, 98-81 in 18 seasons. Last season: 5-6 overall, 5-5 district.

Impact players: OL/LB Connor Dickman, 5-10, 180, sr.; RB/DB Devin Floyd, 5-10, 175, sr.; OL/DL Killian Koppenhaver, 6-2, 240, sr.; RB/DB Tre Thorpe, 5-8, 165, sr.; Ol/DL Chris Sauerwald, 6-2, 220, jr.

On the field: DeWitt - two victories from 100 in his career - likes what he sees in this team saying, “I expect us to be really competitive.” The Knights should be strong at running back where Floyd, Thorpe and junior Aidan Ashby will share the ball. And with sophomore QB Owen Mitchell, DeWitt hopes the Knights can control the tempo of the game with a young but experienced line. Defensively, DeWitt expects the Knights to play ‘hard-nosed” and “aggressive.”


6. Landstown Eagles Classification: Group 6A

Coach: Tommy Reamon, 50-43 in eight seasons at Landstown, 136-140 in 30 seasons overall. Last season: 4-6 overall and district.

Impact players: DE Julian Freeze, 6-3, 220, sr.; LB Colby Nottenkamper, 6-0, 205, sr.; OG Braden Rupert, 6-5, 290, jr.; QB/DB Brent Stukes, 6-1, 185, jr.; WR/DB Joe White, 6-2, 185, jr.

On the field: Reamon said this could be a special year. Injuries to key players ruined any playoff chances the Eagles had last year, but Reamon said Landstown has had a great offseason and he expects an “an exciting season.” The defense is led by Freeze, who committed to James Madison. Reamon also has several juniors that he expects big things from, including White (who has six major college offers), Stukes (four offers) and Rupert (two offers). Other key juniors include RB Victor Jones, OG/DT Donovan McPeek, LB Jason Euman and WR/DB Kyrein Idlebird.


7. First Colonial Patriots Classification: Group 6A
Coach: Sam Scarborough, 54-57 in 12 seasons. Last season: 4-6 overall and district.

Impact players: OT Barry Anthony, 6-2, 230, sr.; DT Ty Beatty, 6-2, 230, sr.; RB/DB Eryk Britt, 5-10, 175, soph.; WR/DB Dauvieh Bradshaw, 6-0, 175, jr.; QB Caleb Saar, 5-10, 175, sr.

On the field: Last season the Patriots pulled out some close games, winning three by a total of seven points. “They began to learn how to win and it became contagious to the team,” said Scarborough, who has returned after ceding some duties this preseason to assistant Jaton Hines while recovering from back surgery. “They are hungry for positive success and they are working hard to achieve it.” If the Patriots can keep it rolling, Scarborough believes First Colonial can be in the hunt for the playoffs. Offensive coordinator Hines has his most talented group in years with Saar, Bradshaw and Britt. Scarborough, expected to return to the sideline soon, said the defense - led by coordinator Andy Miller - "is the strongest part of our team.”


8. Tallwood Lions Classification: Group 6A
Coach: John Kepple, 18-32 in five seasons. Last season: 4-6 overall and district.

Impact players: LB Austen Brown, 5-11, 195, sr.; WR/OLB Lamarr Gilbert, 6-3, 215, jr.; RB Breon Mosley, 5-11, 180, sr.; OL/DL Cameron Washington, 6-4, 250, sr.; QB Adrion Wilson, 5-11, 175, sr.

On the field: The Lions have only five seniors starting on each side of the ball and three didn’t play last season. They also have three sophomore starters on each side of the ball. But Kepple believes by the end of the season the Lions will be in the playoff hunt. The line will be strong led by Washington, who committed to Old Dominion, and Richard Ruffin (6-1, 305 pounds). Mosley, second-team All-Coastal Conference, will lead the running game. Last season he rushed for nearly 800 yards and could be one of the top backs in the district this season. Wilson, who threw for more than 800 yards, brings experience at quarterback, and Gilbert - an all-conference wide receiver - should have an impact on both sides of the ball.


9. Princess Anne Cavaliers Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Jelani Fair, 3-7 in one season. Last season: 3-7 overall and district.

Impact players: FB/DT Andrew Coleman, 6-2, 280, sr.; WR/DB Darryl Jones, 6-3, 175, jr.; OT/DT Amelio Moran, 6-5, 305, jr.; OT/DT Anthony Roberts, 6-4, 330, jr.; RB/DB DJ Walton, 5-9, 200, sr.

On the field: The Cavaliers will be improved from last year. They still have good size on the offensive and defensive lines, with four players weighing more than 280 pounds. They also have play-makers at the skill positions led by Walton, who could emerge as one of the best running back in South Hampton Roads. The Cavaliers also have newcomer Andre Newell in the backfield. He didn’t play last season because he transferred in late. The only thing Princess Anne is lacking is depth. But expect the offense to score a lot of points and keep the Cavaliers in games.


10. Green Run Stallions Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Justin Conyers, first season. Last season: 3-7 overall and district.

Impact players: WR/DB Kwantay Anderson, 6-0, 170, jr.; DL Kyree Brown, 6-1, 220, sr.; RB/LB Julian Etheridge, 5-10, 215, sr.; WR Dequan Hopkins, 6-3, 160, jr.; S Jalen Parham, 5-10, 170, fresh.

On the field: Conyers' enthusiasm seems to be rubbing off on his players because he says he expects the Stallions to compete for the Beach District title. “Our team is hungry and excited about where we stand in the Beach,” he said. The Stallions don’t return any of their statistical leaders from last season. They also are young and inexperienced. “Though some people may see that as a negative,” Conyers said, “I view it as a positive because the players, as well as the coaches, have a lot to prove.” He’s expecting big things from Brown, who he predicts will be all-state.


11. Kempsville Chiefs Classification: Group 5A
Coach: Nick Mygas, 0-10 in first season. Last season: 0-10 overall and district.

Impact players: WR/DB Dennis Ayers, 5-10, 180 sr.; QB/LB Jackson Droll, 6-0, 205, sr.; RB/DB Micah Dryden, 5-8, 160, sr.; WR/DB Dasamir Spriggins, 5-11, 175, jr.; RB/LB Zach Wheeler, 5-11, 225, sr.

On the field: Mygas is looking for his first career victory after the Chiefs were outscored 322-77 last season. This campaign will be better as they return several skill players, including many seniors. Droll, who had a good offseason, is focused and poised at quarterback. Wheeler, Dryden and Ayers will provide leadership, along with senior RB/LB Brent Addison, TE/LB Jacob Moore, RB/LB Brad Lee, RB/DB Keyshawn White and OL/DL Jordan Eanes. Mygas said Kempsville's goal is to “be competitive every week.”

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Supporter ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:49PM

Oh I am very coherent. Westfield will roll as usual because Westfield rules and Westfield is chosen by God to show all you non believers what chosen football players can do. WESTFIELD is indeed....


WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 22, 2016 09:56PM

AGREED>>>>>WESTFIELD IS.

WINNING!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: KhCFj ()
Date: August 22, 2016 10:20PM

2nd year of Fairfax v Loudoun Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A lot of interesting match-ups took place last
> year as the best 5A schools in Loudoun had quite a
> few big games against the top 6A schools in
> Fairfax.
>
> As one would expect, the cream of the Fairfax crop
> last year did well, as Robinson defeated Stone
> Bridge and Broad Run. Westfield beat Stone Bridge
> and Briar Woods. South County also defeated Briar
> Woods, which was no great feat last year as Briar
> had their worst year in almost a decade.
>
> What was surprising is the wins that Loudoun piled
> up against playoff teams in Fairfax. Broad Run
> beat Oakton and Centreville, as did Tuscarora.
> Stone Bridge beat West Springfield and Chantilly,
> even when their QB went down. Heck, Potomac Falls
> won all of their games out of conference playing
> the likes of Langley, Falls Church, and Marshall.
>
> Saw Broad Run scrimmage Woodgrove and Tuscarora
> scrimmage Champe. Looks to me like Loudoun will be
> down a bit this year. None of the Big Four in
> Loudoun return their quarterback, so that will be
> difficult, to say the least. Still, we should
> enjoy these match-ups this year, because they
> could be long gone by next.
>
> Three 4A Loudoun schools have been reclassified to
> 5A, so Loudoun could easily shift to an
> all-Loudoun schedule. I like the games. I think
> they are high scoring and the teams well-coached.
>
> Westfield would seem to be the only Fairfax team
> that will roll their Loudoun opponents this year.
> Thoughts by any coherent, real high school
> football fans?

I can see some limited games between Fairfax and Loudoun after this year but obviously with so many Loudoun 5A teams and in the same district it won't leave a lot of extra games available. I would expect Westfield to beat Briar Woods but Stone Bridge is not going to be easy. It would be a mistake to underestimate SB. Stone Bridge should be #1 in Loudoun this season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Why? ()
Date: August 22, 2016 10:22PM

Why Stone Bridge? Lost a lot, including coach's son. Only a few starters return.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 22, 2016 10:50PM

24-7 Sports Top 30 2017 Virginia HS Football Recruits:

Rank, Position, Height, Weight, Score, School


1 Devon Hunter
Indian River (Chesapeake, VA)
S 6-1 205 96 34 Offers

2 Khalan Laborn
Bishop Sullivan Catholic (Virginia Beach, VA)
APB 5-10 199 95 Florida State

3 Luiji Vilain
Episcopal (Alexandria, VA)
WDE 6-4 240 95 Michigan

4 Jordan Williams
Frank W. Cox (Virginia Beach, VA)
WDE 6-4.5 260 95 Clemson

5 Yetur Matos
Chancellor (Fredericksburg, VA)
SDE 6-5 235 92 Penn State

6 Darnell Ewell
Lake Taylor (Norfolk, VA)
DT 6-4 295 92 Notre Dame

7 Breyon Gaddy
Bishop Sullivan Catholic (Virginia Beach, VA)
DT 6-5 335 91 Tennessee

8 Dylan Rivers
Sherando (Stephens City, VA)
OLB 6-2 230 91 Penn State

9 Tyjuan Garbutt
Riverbend (Fredericksburg, VA)
WDE 6-4 222 91 20 offers

10 Tahj Capehart
Bishop Sullivan Catholic (Virginia Beach, VA)
WR 5-10 178 91 Virginia Tech

11 Elijah Conliffe
Hampton (Hampton, VA)
SDE 6-4 305 90 25 Offers

12 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Bethel (Hampton, VA)
ATH 6-2 197 89 25 Offers

13 Eric Crosby
Ocean Lakes (Virginia Beach, VA)
DT 6-1 290 89 Tennessee

14 Jermani Brown
Midlothian (Midlothian, VA)
ATH 5-11 175 88 Boise State

15 Mekhi Becton
Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA)
OT 6-7 345 88 31 Offers

16 Alex Faniel
Glen Allen (Richmond, VA)
PRO 6-5 225 88 Ole Miss

17 Ellis Brooks
Benedictine (Richmond, VA)
ILB 6-2 233 87 27 Offers

18 Jonathan Sutherland
Episcopal (Alexandria, VA)
S 6-0 195 87 Penn State

19 Lindell Stone
Woodberry Forest (Woodberry Forest, VA)
PRO 6-2 205 86 Virginia

20 Brandon Gaddy
Bishop Sullivan Catholic (Virginia Beach, VA)
DT 6-5 289 86 Tennessee

21 Ryan Thaxton
St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Alexandria, VA)
SDE 6-5 245 86 Virginia

22 Tye Freeland
Dinwiddie County (Dinwiddie, VA)
CB 5-11 170 85 6 Offers

23 Tommy Christ
Dominion (Sterling, VA)
DT 6-5 255 85 Virginia

24 Brailyn Franklin
Battlefield (Haymarket, VA)
ATH 6-2 200 85 Penn State

25 Jason Brown
Chancellor (Fredericksburg, VA)
PRO 6-2 205 84 8 Offers

26 Lamont Atkins
Lake Braddock (Burke, VA)
APB 5-11 200 84 Virginia

27 Devante Smith
Stonewall Jackson (Manassas, VA)
S 6-1 197 84 Virginia Tech

28 Shon Mitchell
Oscar Smith (Chesapeake, VA)
DUAL 5-11 170 84 William & Mary

29 Isaiah Moore
Lloyd C. Bird (Chesterfield, VA)
OLB 6-2 205 84 N.C. State

30 Hezekiah Grimsley
Lafayette (Williamsburg, VA)
WR 6-0 175 84 Virginia Tech

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PnUHM ()
Date: August 23, 2016 12:47PM

So much for the Doomsday scenario.

After two years of statistically significant declines — 10,000 athletes in 2014 alone — 2015 saw the very essence of stability for high school football participation. According to the annual High School Athletics Participation Survey conducted by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS), football participation across high school programs decreased by just 309 athletes. When you consider there were 1,083,308 football players in all, that’s a decrease of just 0.003 percent. That’s not going to make anyone worried about the future of football; if those numbers remain consistent, football will be around for some time to come.

Those numbers were apparently bolstered by increased participation in 24 American states, offsetting some decreases in other states. It was not publicly identified which states saw increases and decreases, though the raw state-by-state statistics were made available to the public in a searchable database and some states, such as California, had already independently reported a decrease in participation.

http://usatodayhss.com/2016/hs-football-participation-barely-declined-nationally-in-2015

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 23, 2016 08:04PM

We ARE: Football!

Below is a well written article by: Elizabeth McGrath @ Recruit757. I like this because it clearly demonstrates the impact that High School Football has on our community. For those near sited LibTards that want to remove ALL American Traditional Values, here's a little enlightenment. I don't expect those of you content to live mediocre lives to understand any of this, but don't expect Americans to yearn for the LAZY European life style. The below articles exemplifies whom we are as a Nation. GET OVER IT !!!


BTW This is NOT exclusive to 757 but EVERY community across America!!! I Celebrate High School Football because, as this article says, Football is a powerful platform for turning boys into young men and girls into young women... Seeing an unsure, sometimes misguided youth change over a course of 4 years into a confident, focused and determined person ready to take on our country's challenges gives me confidence about our future. No matter what our media wants us to believe, WINNING and our strive for excellence DOES make us the greatest country on earth!


"Together, we are Ultimate. We are Football.

Football in the 757 made of many faces and places. Together, we are a family.

by Elizabeth McGrath, recruit757

The signs are evident among the community. Young men practice in the sweltering, unforgiving August humidity much as they can, chanting the team’s mantra, learning from their coaches how collaborative and individual discipline with pride ensure victories on and off the field.

The marching bands are meeting in the parking lot early mornings, instruments in hand and practicing the movements for the intricate field show. When the sun becomes unforgiving, the group reconvenes inside to the band room to practice the new show music. The director expects each sections to remember their melodies, note for note. The half-time show not only entertains the audience; it is a competitive tool against other bands within the region.

The 2016 football season is near, and this reporter is excited for both players and spectators! Whether it is Pee-Wee league with little ones to college rivalries on Saturday afternoons, football weekends complement the sugary iced tea consumed during the dog days of summer to the hot chocolate and cider during winter playoff hopes.

Virginia seems to be the home for professional football dreams. Across the bridges, on the Southside for Plaxico Burress at Green Run, DeAngelo Hall at Western Branch, or Darryl Tapp from Deep Creek…. There’s E.J. Manuel from Bayside, Justin Hunter, Shamarko Thomas and Eli Harold from Ocean Lakes, LaRoy Reynolds and Kam Chancellor from Maury. Who could forget about Bruce Smith from Booker T. Washington? From any field, in a divisional playoff, or by chance a title for the VHSL championship, the hometown watched and marveled over our student athletes’ innate natural talent over decades.

On the Peninsula, L.T. (Lawrence Taylor) from Lafayette; Michael Vick and B.W. Webb from Warwick; Denbigh’s own Antoine Bethea and Mike Tomlin; Kecoughtan’s Jared Mayo; or Ron Curry, Chris Hanburger, Elton Brown and Tyrod Taylor from Hampton. On any given Friday or Saturday, citizens across the Commonwealth share in bragging rights with, ‘I remember when…’ stories. Of course with the school pride comes trash-talking and good-natured rivalry at the stadium.

Professional achievement and dreams do not include only the football field. World renowned musicians and television commentators perfected their talents on the weekends as well. The community refer to a five time Emmy award recipient as one of “The Brothers.” Respectfully, Victor Wooten is a composer, producer, author and respected bass guitarist. Master Sergeant Timothy Young, another Denbigh alum, is a founding member of the United States Army’s Music Ambassadors Program. Both participated in the Marching Patriots with the late director Edgar Webb as did this writer. Tabitha Soren, a Hampton High alum, was a journalist for MTV—Music Television.

Football involves the community. Weekends in the 757 are alive with VHSL games. The school bands and cheerleaders practice their final routines before heading to the stadium. The adults quickly change from business attire into team colors. Some are parents of the athletes, the student musicians, or alum who visit for homecoming. We smell popcorn from the concession stands.

Sometimes, it is a full-blown tailgate in the parking lot, complete with the hamburgers and hot dogs with proceeds for the kids. It is 48 minutes in Virginia High School League football; four quarters of real nail-biters, shutouts, and water-boundary rivalries. In the professional arena, they represent the best of our region. The former graduates return home, schedule permitting, to advise, donate, and give back to the community monetarily or through conditioning programs. It is a community effort, instilled by coaches, educators, and most of all, parents. For the youth, it is an once-in-a-lifetime meeting with a professional athlete, an idol and an individual who can possibly help with a life-changing decision.

It is safe to say that both players and spectators only wish well for the opponent, with recent concerns about contact sport-related injuries. Play the game fairly, and call the infraction appropriately for young people with a genuine love for the game. We all cheer, clap along as the band play the school’s fight song for celebrating a touchdown and congratulate both teams for a good game. That’s good football. The above characteristics are what makes football and the game beloved not only for us but in our part of the country: the Southeast United States.

After all, we’re here to see boys become young men. We also want to see girls become young women, and all become productive and well-rounded adults in a pursuit centered around the game we love. Together, we are the 757, recruit757 and the UltimateRecruit community loving football!

– Elizabeth McGrath"
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: math question ()
Date: August 23, 2016 08:10PM

What % of high school kids get to play football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757| ()
Date: August 23, 2016 08:40PM

Never mind that the 757 also teaches our high school football players how to cheat, how to move between schools yearly (or not even move and still play with the chosen team), and how not to worry about the ramifications of actions as long as there is a win as a result.

And I forgot to remind everyone - I still have a small dick.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kyle Simmon ()
Date: August 23, 2016 09:03PM

Anyone heard of a kid named Isaiah Tibbs from Manassas Park

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 23, 2016 09:15PM

Juvenile Trolls are destined to a less than mediocre, miserable life because they were not loved as children and only learned to blame others for their own misery. I feel sorry for you!

Math Question: YOU did not read the above article! You need to include the ancillary people involved in every week of football. The Band Members, Cheerleaders, volunteers, teachers, coaches, people whom work the concession stands, security, the entire merchandising/marketing department, fund raising & boosters are ALL involved in developing our youth. The pride a school has for their team helps teach children the importance of setting goals and reaching for the unattainable. It is not a matter of mathematics but a sociological success on an American Scale!

Like I said, I don't expect average, mediocre people to understand. but go to a game just for the entertainment and look at the children around you and wonder what they would likely be doing if not at THAT GAME each Friday Night! Really, think about it, how many parents are taking their kids to help the homeless in shelter, volunteering at the nearest hospital or fire department or SCHOOL? The more those kids are exposed to our most community leaders like TEACHERS, Pastors and Rabbi's or Imam's, the more likely they are to succeed and learn the values needed to become adults. They're NOT getting it home, playing video games, watching TV and getting lost in the Internet!

BTW, we have no video games or cable TV in my home & both of my children are getting along quite well in life! My son played football too!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CwhGU ()
Date: August 23, 2016 09:40PM

math question Wrote:
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> What % of high school kids get to play football?

That is very hard to estimate but there are approximately 16 million high school students in the US and if approximately 1 million play football that would be about 6.5%.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757/ ()
Date: August 23, 2016 11:15PM

By the way my children cheat too just like ocean lakes and Oscar smith football....in fact I am the mastermind behind all the suspect transferring of players..,.and my penis is still small but I still will talk like a trump loving know it all

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 05:26AM

On the below article, I Gotta disagree with Andy Hilton on the premise that if so few make it to the NFL, don't have the expectations. The fact is that 100% of the kids that make it to the NFL worked hard enough to get there! They were the few that dared to dream with desperation. However, failure is a part of life: dealing with it makes us better than if we hadn't tried. Football is the crucible that forges boys' character into young men. Other activities can have a similar effect, but football is ours, unique and American.

IF anyone wants a top paying job in the US, they should expect to be asked IF they played college level sports. The FACT is that employers know applicants that have done so are highly self motivated and are relentless in pursuing excellence as a daily habit!

Anyway here is the liberal slant on football in the US. The theme is to lower your expectations for happiness. The American Dream is just the opposite. Reach for the stars, dream big and you'll find happiness along the way!



NFL? Parents and their high school athletes have high expectations when it comes to making the prose.

by Andy Hilton, UltimateRecruit

Student-athletes, according to a survey conducted recently by NPR, the Robert Wood Foundation and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, your parents think you’re really special. Most high school athletes have a good amount of confidence too.

Unfortunately, reality is different.

We’ve discussed the numbers before, but this is a good time to revisit them. There are hundreds of thousands of high school athletes in each sport. In football alone there are about 1.1 million college students playing the game. Only a small percentage will even go on to play College Football at an NCAA institution of any kind. For football, the number is around 6.5 percent.

The Sports and Health Poll states that 26 percent of parents of high school athletes think their kid is going to play sports professionally. We’re here to keep you honest and help you dial those expectations back.

Here are the current numbers that the NCAA has published on the probability of competing beyond high school.

Here are the hard numbers for high school participation, NCAA participation and the likelihood of going pro:

Football
1,083,617 high school athletes
72,788 NCAA participants
16,175 draft eligible “seniors”
256 drafted
6.7% make the progression from HS to college
1.6% make the leap from NCAA to NFL

For those that are still determined that they’re going to make it, 56 other college football athletes made it to the Arena League or Canadian Football league when 2014 data was analyzed. If you’re willing to play professional football somewhere other than the NFL, your likelihood of landing any spot increases to 1.9%.

Men’s Basketball
541,479 high school athletes
18,697 NCAA participants
4,155 draft eligible
60 draft slots
46 NCAA athletes selected
3.5% make the progression from HS to any level of NCAA
1.1% make it to to the NBA from NCAA

The odds are worse for basketball players. A lower percentage of players make it to the college ranks. A lower percentage make it to the NBA, and they have to compete against foreign born players in the NBA draft. Because the rules are more permissive when it comes to the NBA Draft, more players are eligible because they can declare earlier than football players. There are developmental league and foreign league options, and those increase the odds of going pro. 12.2% of all NCAA basketball athletes ended up playing in some sort of professional capacity in 2015.

Baseball
486,567 high school athletes
34,198 NCAA participants
7,600 draft eligible
1,215 draft picks
738 NCAA athletes drafted
7.0% make the progression from HS to any level of NCAA
9.7% make it from the NCAA to the MLB system

Baseball has a much different structure. Foreign born players are drafted. High school players are drafted. Once you attend college, you have three years before you can re-enter the draft. Once you’re drafted, there is very little more than opportunity provided to all prospects except for the highest draft picks. In other words, don’t let college pass you by because you won’t make a lot of money as a signee and you’ll have to labor in the minors for many years before you make it to the big leagues.

Here’s what you’ll want to know most about the study.

76% of parents of middle school or high school students responded that they encourage their child to play sports. That’s good. Sports are rewarding in so many ways, including discipline, teamwork, leadership, and camaraderie. The survey also found that there is almost no gender gap for children in that age range. 76% of boys were participating and 70% of girls were participating in sports. There is a gender gap in adults continuing to participate in sports. 35% of men and only 16% of women said they participate in athletic activity.

Soccer participation is up and baseball participation is down. When parents were asked what sports they played vs. what their children currently play, Soccer jumped from 6% in the past to 14% currently. Baseball/Softball dropped from 17% in the past to 11% currently.

Here’s the biggie: “More than one in four parents (26%) whose high school aged child plays sports hope their child will become a professional athlete.”

Parents, the numbers above provided for the major sports don’t bear out much hope. There is a chance, but the big takeaway is the value of education.

College scholarships aren’t easy to come by in the first place. An opportunity in the professional ranks is even harder to obtain. Our advice for prospective athletes is to take advantage of the education that’s offered while you’re still young and interested in playing your sport of choice. We talk often of the 40 year plan and compare it to the four-year plan. College sports can be rewarding in many ways. There are going to be decades to live long after your sport is done for you, from a competitive/professional standpoint.

Use the sport you love to get access to a college education. Whether you go pro or not, careers in professional sports are short. Your professional career after sports, and your college education, will serve you for a lifetime.

– Andy Hilton

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 07:58AM

By the way I know I am living a dream in my own skull and filtering out the good (football does provide discipline and teamwork) from the bad (757 teams are rampant cheating factories). I just choose to live with the good and ignore the bad.

And my penis is still small.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: something wrong here ()
Date: August 24, 2016 09:15AM

CwhGU Wrote:
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> math question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What % of high school kids get to play
> football?
>
> That is very hard to estimate but there are
> approximately 16 million high school students in
> the US and if approximately 1 million play
> football that would be about 6.5%.

1) If this is true, why isn't something being done to make sure the alleged "benefits" of football accrue to the remaining, non-playing students?

2) If this is true, it proves the point that football is exclusionary.

3) Why is so much money and emphasis put on something that only 6.5% of the students participate in?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 10:19AM

something wrong here Wrote:
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> CwhGU Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > math question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What % of high school kids get to play
> > football?
> >
> > That is very hard to estimate but there are
> > approximately 16 million high school students
> in
> > the US and if approximately 1 million play
> > football that would be about 6.5%.
>
> 1) If this is true, why isn't something being done
> to make sure the alleged "benefits" of football
> accrue to the remaining, non-playing students?
>
> 2) If this is true, it proves the point that
> football is exclusionary.
>
> 3) Why is so much money and emphasis put on
> something that only 6.5% of the students
> participate in?


Total Libtard, Northern VA, brainwashed point of view! Liberals prefer to separate out our successes and attempt to create fights & feuds to hide your own failures! A clear Saul Alinsky tactic. IF you want to live in corrupt, oppressive culture, America is the wrong place for YOU.

You've totally discounted the entire social impact of the sport. Football develops future leaders that envelopes the entire community throughout the country. IF more parents expected their kids to be professionals in their field of interest like they do football, I think our overall poverty problem would simply vanish. BUT parents don't push and encourage their children to get off the couch, away from their computers and into the community like they do for football!

Football is NOT exclusionary!!! Read below!

We ARE: Football!

Below is a well written article by: Elizabeth McGrath @ Recruit757. I like this because it clearly demonstrates the impact that High School Football has on our community. For those near sited LibTards that want to remove ALL American Traditional Values, here's a little enlightenment. I don't expect those of you content to live mediocre lives to understand any of this, but don't expect Americans to yearn for the LAZY European life style. The below articles exemplifies whom we are as a Nation. GET OVER IT !!!


BTW This is NOT exclusive to 757 but EVERY community across America!!! I Celebrate High School Football because, as this article says, Football is a powerful platform for turning boys into young men and girls into young women... Seeing an unsure, sometimes misguided youth change over a course of 4 years into a confident, focused and determined person ready to take on our country's challenges gives me confidence about our future. No matter what our media wants us to believe, WINNING and our strive for excellence DOES make us the greatest country on earth!


"Together, we are Ultimate. We are Football.

Football in the 757 made of many faces and places. Together, we are a family.

by Elizabeth McGrath, recruit757

The signs are evident among the community. Young men practice in the sweltering, unforgiving August humidity much as they can, chanting the team’s mantra, learning from their coaches how collaborative and individual discipline with pride ensure victories on and off the field.

The marching bands are meeting in the parking lot early mornings, instruments in hand and practicing the movements for the intricate field show. When the sun becomes unforgiving, the group reconvenes inside to the band room to practice the new show music. The director expects each sections to remember their melodies, note for note. The half-time show not only entertains the audience; it is a competitive tool against other bands within the region.

The 2016 football season is near, and this reporter is excited for both players and spectators! Whether it is Pee-Wee league with little ones to college rivalries on Saturday afternoons, football weekends complement the sugary iced tea consumed during the dog days of summer to the hot chocolate and cider during winter playoff hopes.

Virginia seems to be the home for professional football dreams. Across the bridges, on the Southside for Plaxico Burress at Green Run, DeAngelo Hall at Western Branch, or Darryl Tapp from Deep Creek…. There’s E.J. Manuel from Bayside, Justin Hunter, Shamarko Thomas and Eli Harold from Ocean Lakes, LaRoy Reynolds and Kam Chancellor from Maury. Who could forget about Bruce Smith from Booker T. Washington? From any field, in a divisional playoff, or by chance a title for the VHSL championship, the hometown watched and marveled over our student athletes’ innate natural talent over decades.

On the Peninsula, L.T. (Lawrence Taylor) from Lafayette; Michael Vick and B.W. Webb from Warwick; Denbigh’s own Antoine Bethea and Mike Tomlin; Kecoughtan’s Jared Mayo; or Ron Curry, Chris Hanburger, Elton Brown and Tyrod Taylor from Hampton. On any given Friday or Saturday, citizens across the Commonwealth share in bragging rights with, ‘I remember when…’ stories. Of course with the school pride comes trash-talking and good-natured rivalry at the stadium.

Professional achievement and dreams do not include only the football field. World renowned musicians and television commentators perfected their talents on the weekends as well. The community refer to a five time Emmy award recipient as one of “The Brothers.” Respectfully, Victor Wooten is a composer, producer, author and respected bass guitarist. Master Sergeant Timothy Young, another Denbigh alum, is a founding member of the United States Army’s Music Ambassadors Program. Both participated in the Marching Patriots with the late director Edgar Webb as did this writer. Tabitha Soren, a Hampton High alum, was a journalist for MTV—Music Television.

Football involves the community. Weekends in the 757 are alive with VHSL games. The school bands and cheerleaders practice their final routines before heading to the stadium. The adults quickly change from business attire into team colors. Some are parents of the athletes, the student musicians, or alum who visit for homecoming. We smell popcorn from the concession stands.

Sometimes, it is a full-blown tailgate in the parking lot, complete with the hamburgers and hot dogs with proceeds for the kids. It is 48 minutes in Virginia High School League football; four quarters of real nail-biters, shutouts, and water-boundary rivalries. In the professional arena, they represent the best of our region. The former graduates return home, schedule permitting, to advise, donate, and give back to the community monetarily or through conditioning programs. It is a community effort, instilled by coaches, educators, and most of all, parents. For the youth, it is an once-in-a-lifetime meeting with a professional athlete, an idol and an individual who can possibly help with a life-changing decision.

It is safe to say that both players and spectators only wish well for the opponent, with recent concerns about contact sport-related injuries. Play the game fairly, and call the infraction appropriately for young people with a genuine love for the game. We all cheer, clap along as the band play the school’s fight song for celebrating a touchdown and congratulate both teams for a good game. That’s good football. The above characteristics are what makes football and the game beloved not only for us but in our part of the country: the Southeast United States.

After all, we’re here to see boys become young men. We also want to see girls become young women, and all become productive and well-rounded adults in a pursuit centered around the game we love. Together, we are the 757, recruit757 and the UltimateRecruit community loving football!

– Elizabeth McGrath"

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cut and paste, blah blah blah ()
Date: August 24, 2016 10:43AM

^^^^

Sorry, football is exclusionary and clearly breeds a culture of entitlement.

Just look at what it did to Stebenville. We don't need that here in Fairfax, indeed, most of the country can do without it.

Repeating this rather delirious article does not make it true, by the way. Have you ever thought of trying to write something original, perhaps reflecting your own (positive?) experience(s) with football?

Go for it!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 725 1084 ()
Date: August 24, 2016 10:47AM

703 725 1084 hit me up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: sick, even by football standards ()
Date: August 24, 2016 10:52AM

703 725 1084 Wrote:
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> 703 725 1084 hit me up.

A good reason to cancel football. What is this crap?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: not the naked boy ()
Date: August 24, 2016 11:11AM

Football family (hello George "Klan" Allen!)
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 725 1084 ()
Date: August 24, 2016 01:36PM

sick, even by football standards Wrote:
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> 703 725 1084 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 703 725 1084 hit me up.
>
> A good reason to cancel football. What is this
> crap?

What?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 24, 2016 01:50PM

Is Westfield gonna have any sophomore starters this year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Blowing Me ()
Date: August 24, 2016 02:24PM

Why ruin the site? want to debate the merits of HS footbal then start a thread. Want to be a tool and claim Westfield is God's team start a thread. Want to post pics of naked boy-men go somewhere else. Why ruin the site for everybody else.

Better yet, must you live with an axe to grind about HS football? Some people like it others dont. If you don't like it why be a dick? What 3 year old thinks it is cool to write these stupid WF is God's team pieces? If Simmons finds out he will be pissed. The gay pics??? You are a hair from coming out of the closet. The site sucks now. Congrats

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 725 1084 ()
Date: August 24, 2016 03:12PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: email on the way ()
Date: August 24, 2016 03:48PM

Blowing Me Wrote:
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> Why ruin the site? want to debate the merits of HS
> footbal then start a thread. Want to be a tool and
> claim Westfield is God's team start a thread. Want
> to post pics of naked boy-men go somewhere else.
> Why ruin the site for everybody else.
>
> Better yet, must you live with an axe to grind
> about HS football? Some people like it others
> dont. If you don't like it why be a dick? What 3
> year old thinks it is cool to write these stupid
> WF is God's team pieces? If Simmons finds out he
> will be pissed. The gay pics??? You are a hair
> from coming out of the closet. The site sucks now.
> Congrats

Now Simmons knows. Enjoy.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: xHMeM ()
Date: August 24, 2016 04:51PM

cut and paste, blah blah blah Wrote:
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> ^^^^
>
> Sorry, football is exclusionary and clearly breeds
> a culture of entitlement.
>
> Just look at what it did to Stebenville. We don't
> need that here in Fairfax, indeed, most of the
> country can do without it.
>
> Repeating this rather delirious article does not
> make it true, by the way. Have you ever thought of
> trying to write something original, perhaps
> reflecting your own (positive?) experience(s) with
> football?
>
> Go for it!

It’s hard to tell if you are just being a troll or actually serious (even if you are serious – you are still trolling this thread).

But I would say that it is a specious argument that whether or not a program should be supported be based solely on the percentage of students participating. Most high schools have dozens of athletic teams and after-school activities and clubs. The percentage of students participating in most if not all of them is much smaller than football.

Of course, you probably would then switch your argument to state that only Math, English, Science and History be taught at the public school and all other programs should be eliminated.

And football is no more exclusionary than girls gymnastics for example. FCPS eliminated boys gymnastics. For a variety of reason few boys choose to participate in girls volleyball, field hockey, cheerleading, dance, gymnastics etc. But I think FCPS does try to accommodate those that want to. Similarly, there are very few girls that choose to try out for football. But from what I see most FCPS coaches do try to accommodate those that want to.

I know a lot people hate athletes, but I disagree that it engenders a sense of entitlement. Certainly no more than any other sport. Football in FCPS is very low key and low budget compared to many school districts in the USA.

You keep babbling the same nonsense over and over again with no evidence other than a isolated anecdotes.

Others have demonstrated how easy it is to cherry-pick incidents - what happened in Ohio is completely irrelevant to FCPS.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fan of Soccer ()
Date: August 24, 2016 05:22PM

Westfield was pushing Really hard for Moran #20 to get some sophomore Reps....See Dematha Scrimmage...McLean might see some time in the Secondary as well as Asante and Keily on the offensive Side...all may be Forced into action however all would benefit from 20-30# of added muscle and another year of experience..your Sophmore Report.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: don't give a shit ()
Date: August 24, 2016 05:41PM

Who gives a shit about Westfield, tired of hearing from their obsessed, sycophantic fans. What about other NR teams?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 24, 2016 06:08PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: Fan of Soccer ()

Date: August 24, 2016 05:22PM


Westfield was pushing Really hard for Moran #20 to get some sophomore Reps....See Dematha Scrimmage...McLean might see some time in the Secondary as well as Asante and Keily on the offensive Side...all may be Forced into action however all would benefit from 20-30# of added muscle and another year of experience..your Sophmore Report.

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WF currently has a sophomore as a starting OLB, another at CB but he's overmatched due to lack of size, strength, tackling ability. There is another sophomore getting reps at both MLB spots, probably as a back up should either senior starter or the one senior back up get injured. All three senior MLB's logging time are not very big but sure are tough though. On the offensive side they have a converted QB who is now a RB, getting time cause the senior and other sophomore RB are banged up. The one sophomore RB currently injured most probably will be starting once the season starts, he's going to be special.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 24, 2016 06:19PM

My small penis is getting enlarged to somewhere just shy of average size thinking about my bulls, my dogs, my bulldogs, love em, winners every one of them, the chosen ones, the chosen team, the chosen school.....

Oh and I forgot - dixie cupping again this weekend at my house.

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 06:46PM

cut and paste, blah blah blah Wrote:
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> ^^^^
>
> Sorry, football is exclusionary and clearly breeds
> a culture of entitlement.
>
> Just look at what it did to Stebenville. We don't
> need that here in Fairfax, indeed, most of the
> country can do without it.
>
> Repeating this rather delirious article does not
> make it true, by the way. Have you ever thought of
> trying to write something original, perhaps
> reflecting your own (positive?) experience(s) with
> football?
>
> Go for it!

Your reading comprehension of very poor. I add my opinion & experiences throughout each and every post. I don't agree with EVERYTHING I paste. BUT when well written, objective information is found, I feel obligated to post it for sharing.

YOU are only interested in tearing apart basic American Values and cannot understand what it is to be a FAN. I again call you out as a LibTard Troll Plant likely on the payroll of Saul Alinsky to perform your un-American actions. You have no other reason for posting on this board!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 07:16PM

I am not a libtard therefore I find it ok to espouse the virtues of cheating across 757 football. Go Trump. Also I have a very very very small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 07:17PM

You can tell by looking at my hands, they are same small size as Trump

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: XyYUG ()
Date: August 24, 2016 07:23PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: this thread is dead ()
Date: August 24, 2016 07:58PM

Fuck some of you out there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Blame it on us at Westfield ()
Date: August 24, 2016 08:09PM

I know - blame it on us, we screwed this place up. Us along with the Trump loving, cheating 757 guy who does not know where he lives. We are a bunch of small penis, cheaters who talk like our teams are all that but all know rules infractions continue to be swept under the rugs.

A sphincter says what?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 09:24PM

08/26/16 Pickem

Home Away

C. D. Hylton Battlefield

Jackson Woodbridge

N. Stafford Osborn

Osborn Park Forest Park

Patriot Stafford

McLean Annandale

Mt. Vernon Washington Lee

Mt View Freedom

Gar-Field Potomac

Colonial Forge Brooke Point

Riverbend Chancellor

Massaponax Courtland

Briar Woods Tuscarora

Broad Run Potomac Falls

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 24, 2016 09:31PM

/757\ Wrote:
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> 08/26/16 Pickem
>
> Home Away
>
> C. D. Hylton Battlefield
>
> Jackson Woodbridge
>
> N. Stafford Osborn
>
> Osborn Park Forest Park
>
> Patriot Stafford
>
> McLean Annandale
>
> Mt. Vernon Washington Lee
>
> Mt View Freedom
>
> Gar-Field Potomac
>
> Colonial Forge Brooke Point
>
> Riverbend Chancellor
>
> Massaponax Courtland
>
> Briar Woods Tuscarora
>
> Broad Run Potomac Falls


Well that didn't format the way I wanted it to.



08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Taco charlton ()
Date: August 24, 2016 09:43PM

Champions League draw tomorrow.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: we can overcome ()
Date: August 24, 2016 11:02PM

Dont let the haters win

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6Aswami ()
Date: August 24, 2016 11:18PM

Battlefield
Woodbridge
N. Stafford
Forest Park
Patriot
Annandale
Washington Lee
Freedom
Potomac
Colonial Forge
Riverbend
Massaponax
Tuscarora
Broad Run

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 25, 2016 01:02PM

GROUP A

Paris Saint-Germain
Arsenal
FC Basel
Ludogorets Razgrad

GROUP B

Benfica
Napoli
Dynamo Kiev
Besiktas

GROUP C

Barcelona
Manchester City
Borussia Monchengladbach
Celtic

GROUP D

Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid
PSV Eindhoven
Rostov

GROUP E

CSKA Moscow
Bayer Leverkusen
Tottenham Hotspur
Monaco

GROUP F

Real Madrid
Borussia Dortmund
Sporting
Legia Warsaw

GROUP G

Leicester City
Porto
Club Brugge
FC Copenhagen

GROUP H

Juventus
Sevilla
Lyon
Dinamo Zagreb

GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
September 13, 14
September 27, 28
October 18, 19
November 1, 2
November 22, 23
December 6, 7

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Alum ()
Date: August 25, 2016 01:32PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> GROUP A
>
> Paris Saint-Germain
> Arsenal
> FC Basel
> Ludogorets Razgrad
>
> GROUP B
>
> Benfica
> Napoli
> Dynamo Kiev
> Besiktas
>
> GROUP C
>
> Barcelona
> Manchester City
> Borussia Monchengladbach
> Celtic
>
> GROUP D
>
> Bayern Munich
> Atletico Madrid
> PSV Eindhoven
> Rostov
>
> GROUP E
>
> CSKA Moscow
> Bayer Leverkusen
> Tottenham Hotspur
> Monaco
>
> GROUP F
>
> Real Madrid
> Borussia Dortmund
> Sporting
> Legia Warsaw
>
> GROUP G
>
> Leicester City
> Porto
> Club Brugge
> FC Copenhagen
>
> GROUP H
>
> Juventus
> Sevilla
> Lyon
> Dinamo Zagreb
>
> GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> September 13, 14
> September 27, 28
> October 18, 19
> November 1, 2
> November 22, 23
> December 6, 7


Arsenal vs PSG, Bayern vs Atleti, Barca vs City and Real vs Dortmund should all be solid games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Now THIS is Football! ()
Date: August 25, 2016 01:39PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> GROUP A
>
> Paris Saint-Germain
> Arsenal
> FC Basel
> Ludogorets Razgrad
>
> GROUP B
>
> Benfica
> Napoli
> Dynamo Kiev
> Besiktas
>
> GROUP C
>
> Barcelona
> Manchester City
> Borussia Monchengladbach
> Celtic
>
> GROUP D
>
> Bayern Munich
> Atletico Madrid
> PSV Eindhoven
> Rostov
>
> GROUP E
>
> CSKA Moscow
> Bayer Leverkusen
> Tottenham Hotspur
> Monaco
>
> GROUP F
>
> Real Madrid
> Borussia Dortmund
> Sporting
> Legia Warsaw
>
> GROUP G
>
> Leicester City
> Porto
> Club Brugge
> FC Copenhagen
>
> GROUP H
>
> Juventus
> Sevilla
> Lyon
> Dinamo Zagreb
>
> GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> September 13, 14
> September 27, 28
> October 18, 19
> November 1, 2
> November 22, 23
> December 6, 7

The rest of the world seems to know what FOOTBALL really means!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chantilly Purple Urkel ()
Date: August 25, 2016 03:19PM

Westfield Alum Wrote:
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> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GROUP A
> >
> > Paris Saint-Germain
> > Arsenal
> > FC Basel
> > Ludogorets Razgrad
> >
> > GROUP B
> >
> > Benfica
> > Napoli
> > Dynamo Kiev
> > Besiktas
> >
> > GROUP C
> >
> > Barcelona
> > Manchester City
> > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > Celtic
> >
> > GROUP D
> >
> > Bayern Munich
> > Atletico Madrid
> > PSV Eindhoven
> > Rostov
> >
> > GROUP E
> >
> > CSKA Moscow
> > Bayer Leverkusen
> > Tottenham Hotspur
> > Monaco
> >
> > GROUP F
> >
> > Real Madrid
> > Borussia Dortmund
> > Sporting
> > Legia Warsaw
> >
> > GROUP G
> >
> > Leicester City
> > Porto
> > Club Brugge
> > FC Copenhagen
> >
> > GROUP H
> >
> > Juventus
> > Sevilla
> > Lyon
> > Dinamo Zagreb
> >
> > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > September 13, 14
> > September 27, 28
> > October 18, 19
> > November 1, 2
> > November 22, 23
> > December 6, 7
>
>
> Arsenal vs PSG, Bayern vs Atleti, Barca vs City
> and Real vs Dortmund should all be solid games.


Bayern, real and Barca the favorites as usual.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 25, 2016 05:06PM

08/26/16

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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL Reference ()
Date: August 25, 2016 08:53PM

BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: x9NGb ()
Date: August 25, 2016 09:09PM

Mr. 757 - please come back and give us your story of the OS game against DeMatha. As much as I would like to see a VA public school beat a private I don't think you have much of a chance.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:20AM

Smith typically gets thumped by the recruit filled teams. But they handled Ocean Lakes so well last year that I have hope about tomorrow night. I will post a bit of a summary after the game. IF they win, you can bet it'll be before midnight, IF not then I'll do what I do best & just cut / past the info from the news write-ups.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:35AM

The stage is set! I am ready for the Tiger Cage, the Marching Band, the intro music, the bleacher stomping. I am ready for the ups & downs of each game (easier when mostly ups), stadium food (NC BBQ, Pollards Chicken Strips, Hot Chocholate) and meeting up with old friends. Most of all, I hope the season lasts into December and Oscar Smith is playing at Hampton U.!!!! AND I hope my season tickets at UVA allow me to enjoy more wins than last year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kt6oM ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:59AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> GROUP A
>
> Paris Saint-Germain
> Arsenal
> FC Basel
> Ludogorets Razgrad
>
> GROUP B
>
> Benfica
> Napoli
> Dynamo Kiev
> Besiktas
>
> GROUP C
>
> Barcelona
> Manchester City
> Borussia Monchengladbach
> Celtic
>
> GROUP D
>
> Bayern Munich
> Atletico Madrid
> PSV Eindhoven
> Rostov
>
> GROUP E
>
> CSKA Moscow
> Bayer Leverkusen
> Tottenham Hotspur
> Monaco
>
> GROUP F
>
> Real Madrid
> Borussia Dortmund
> Sporting
> Legia Warsaw
>
> GROUP G
>
> Leicester City
> Porto
> Club Brugge
> FC Copenhagen
>
> GROUP H
>
> Juventus
> Sevilla
> Lyon
> Dinamo Zagreb
>
> GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> September 13, 14
> September 27, 28
> October 18, 19
> November 1, 2
> November 22, 23
> December 6, 7

What do you think of group G, looks like it sucks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:06AM

2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757 324 7654 ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:19AM

Here are the latest stories for Friday.



CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Europe's top four leagues will have four guaranteed places in the Champions League group stage from the 2018-19 season, UEFA has confirmed.

- Pep Guardiola will return to the Camp Nou after Manchester City and Barcelona were drawn together in the Champions League group stage draw on Thursday.

- Marcotti: Guardiola's Barcelona return headlines draw

- Group-by-group previews and predictions



EUROPA LEAGUE: Manchester United will face Fenerbahce and Feyenoord in Group A in the 2016-17 Europa League. FULL DRAW

- West Ham failed to claim a place in the group stage of the Europa League as they were beaten by Romanian champions Astra Giurgiu. Sassuolo, St Etienne, Shakhtar Donetsk, Olympiakos, Panathinaikos and Fenerbahce all booked their places in Thursday's playoff round ties.



REAL MADRID: Portugal star Cristiano Ronaldo was named UEFA Best Player in Europe following the Champions League draw ceremony on Thursday.



ARSENAL: Arsene Wenger has confirmed Arsenal are closing in on signing striker Lucas Perez and centre-back Shkodran Mustafi but says the deals are yet to be completed.

- Wenger has said he will make a late decision on whether to start Mesut Ozil at Watford on Saturday.

- Takuma Asano will spend this season on loan at Stuttgart.



BELGIUM: Thierry Henry will join the Belgium national team's coaching staff as Roberto Martinez's assistant.



SPAIN: Iker Casillas, Spain's most-capped player, was left out of Julen Lopetegui's first squad as the new coach of La Roja on Friday.



JUVENTUS: General manager Beppe Marotta is hopeful the Italian champions will sign Blaise Matuidi from Paris Saint-Germain but said there is "zero possibility" of Real Madrid's James Rodriguez joining.



WEST HAM: The club expect to complete the signing of striker Simone Zaza from Juventus later on Friday.



SOUTHAMPTON: Boss Claude Puel says defender Jose Fonte has now agreed to stay at the club despite interest from Manchester United.



MAN CITY: Everton manager Ronald Koeman says he has "no interest" in signing Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart.



TOTTENHAM: Crystal Palace chairman Steve Parish has told Tottenham they are wasting their time trying to sign Wilfried Zaha after claiming to reject a £12 million bid for the winger.

- Tottenham are considering a move for Manchester City defender Eliaquim Mangala before Wednesday's transfer deadline, a source close to the club has told ESPN FC.



LIVERPOOL: Striker Mario Balotelli is attracting interest from French side Nice, coach Lucien Favre confirmed on Thursday.



BARCELONA: Sporting director Robert Fernandez hopes a deal for Valencia striker Paco Alcacer can be done in the coming days.

- Jasper Cillessen has completed his move from Ajax to Barcelona, the Spanish champions have announced. And in turn Claudio Bravo has moved to Manchester City for a reported £17 million.

- La Liga side Granada have confirmed the arrival of Barcelona midfielder Sergi Samper on a one-year loan deal. While right-back Douglas has joined fellow La Liga side Sporting Gijon on a season-long loan.



PSG: Salvatore Sirigu has joined Sevilla on a season-long loan from Paris Saint-Germain, ending his search for a new club.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GEULF ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:22AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> GROUP A
>
> Paris Saint-Germain
> Arsenal
> FC Basel
> Ludogorets Razgrad
>
> GROUP B
>
> Benfica
> Napoli
> Dynamo Kiev
> Besiktas
>
> GROUP C
>
> Barcelona
> Manchester City
> Borussia Monchengladbach
> Celtic
>
> GROUP D
>
> Bayern Munich
> Atletico Madrid
> PSV Eindhoven
> Rostov
>
> GROUP E
>
> CSKA Moscow
> Bayer Leverkusen
> Tottenham Hotspur
> Monaco
>
> GROUP F
>
> Real Madrid
> Borussia Dortmund
> Sporting
> Legia Warsaw
>
> GROUP G
>
> Leicester City
> Porto
> Club Brugge
> FC Copenhagen
>
> GROUP H
>
> Juventus
> Sevilla
> Lyon
> Dinamo Zagreb
>
> GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> September 13, 14
> September 27, 28
> October 18, 19
> November 1, 2
> November 22, 23
> December 6, 7


Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have for top scorer this year?



Suarez?

Greizmann?

Messi?

Ronaldo?

Bale?

Anyone outside la liga?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: conf7fan ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:34AM

For all us Westfield haters I think this will be our year. Word is that their defense will suck big time this season. They got owned by both DeMatha and Quince Orchard I hear. And their offense doesn’t have a running back and their offensive line is as weak as it has ever been. 6-4 season coming up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Gol de Ronaldoooooo ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:35AM

GEULF Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GROUP A
> >
> > Paris Saint-Germain
> > Arsenal
> > FC Basel
> > Ludogorets Razgrad
> >
> > GROUP B
> >
> > Benfica
> > Napoli
> > Dynamo Kiev
> > Besiktas
> >
> > GROUP C
> >
> > Barcelona
> > Manchester City
> > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > Celtic
> >
> > GROUP D
> >
> > Bayern Munich
> > Atletico Madrid
> > PSV Eindhoven
> > Rostov
> >
> > GROUP E
> >
> > CSKA Moscow
> > Bayer Leverkusen
> > Tottenham Hotspur
> > Monaco
> >
> > GROUP F
> >
> > Real Madrid
> > Borussia Dortmund
> > Sporting
> > Legia Warsaw
> >
> > GROUP G
> >
> > Leicester City
> > Porto
> > Club Brugge
> > FC Copenhagen
> >
> > GROUP H
> >
> > Juventus
> > Sevilla
> > Lyon
> > Dinamo Zagreb
> >
> > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > September 13, 14
> > September 27, 28
> > October 18, 19
> > November 1, 2
> > November 22, 23
> > December 6, 7
>
>
> Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have for
> top scorer this year?
>
>
>
> Suarez?
>
> Greizmann?
>
> Messi?
>
> Ronaldo?
>
> Bale?
>
> Anyone outside la liga?


Suarez or Ronaldo.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CWbud ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:40AM

Gol de Ronaldoooooo Wrote:
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> GEULF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GROUP A
> > >
> > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > Arsenal
> > > FC Basel
> > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > >
> > > GROUP B
> > >
> > > Benfica
> > > Napoli
> > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > Besiktas
> > >
> > > GROUP C
> > >
> > > Barcelona
> > > Manchester City
> > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > Celtic
> > >
> > > GROUP D
> > >
> > > Bayern Munich
> > > Atletico Madrid
> > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > Rostov
> > >
> > > GROUP E
> > >
> > > CSKA Moscow
> > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > Monaco
> > >
> > > GROUP F
> > >
> > > Real Madrid
> > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > Sporting
> > > Legia Warsaw
> > >
> > > GROUP G
> > >
> > > Leicester City
> > > Porto
> > > Club Brugge
> > > FC Copenhagen
> > >
> > > GROUP H
> > >
> > > Juventus
> > > Sevilla
> > > Lyon
> > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > >
> > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > September 13, 14
> > > September 27, 28
> > > October 18, 19
> > > November 1, 2
> > > November 22, 23
> > > December 6, 7
> >
> >
> > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have
> for
> > top scorer this year?
> >
> >
> >
> > Suarez?
> >
> > Greizmann?
> >
> > Messi?
> >
> > Ronaldo?
> >
> > Bale?
> >
> > Anyone outside la liga?
>
>
> Suarez or Ronaldo.


Keep up this soccer talk our football sucks in VA (particularly NOVA) when it comes to producing talent. Not one VA team in the top 25.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/cNrrZUi-CUCeiWxvQHpkCw/high-school-football-top-25-composite-rankings.htm

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Wife Club ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:45AM

Unfortunately for the Conf. 7 Guy, I am a Quince Orchard Parent. although Westfield had a few weakness's, they found their rhythm without a running back and handled us pretty well..31-18 if any one was keeping score, two of our TD's came on long 12-15 play drives Westfield showed a little more than the previous week I understand and Even provided a nice Dinner for our Athletes after it was all over. Glad we aren't In Va. COnf. 5

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 12:21PM

Not one High School Football fan cares diddly about SOCCER. Take your 12 fans & create your own thread. I promise no one will troll your board because NO ONE CARES!!! I give you a red card! By your own rules, your out of the game!


In the below list I note whether a team is over rated vs under rated according to the Washington Post! If I don't know the team at all, no info posted.

The Post's Preseason Top 20

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2) The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

Lost too much talent to be #1. Lost their Top rated Running back & the quarterback may not be a difference maker in tonight's game against Oscar Smith & Shon Mitchell et. al. Even if they win tonight, they will not end up on top at the end of the year. Overrated!

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3) The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.


3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4) Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

Not sure their lack of impact offensive players will carry them through undefeated in 2016. S. County, Robinson or another team will trip them up in the regular season & they will not represent the 6A North in Hampton come Mid December! Overrated!

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1) No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5) Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

Gonzaga has a great consistent system program. Could be right in the mix at the end of the year again. Expect parody in the WCAC with every team with a couple of losses. The play-offs will be wild!

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12) As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

Could be underrated. The theme in 2016 could be the running game is BACK for VA Schools!

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16) The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13) Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18) A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

St. John's may have played DeMatha's game of getting transfers better this year! I am one of those that think the playing field is being levelled but they may not beat everyone in their league either. Still, I think they are underrated.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8) The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

Again, running game may rule VA HS football & Stone Bridge does this well. Their Defense needs to stop the speed wide outs and prevent teams from getting the edge on them like Highland springs did in C'Ville last year. Could be in the 5A Regional Champ again!

11. South County (13-1; No. 6) Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

I saw S. County tear up Western Branch with a great defense ready to stop the pass, and was pretty tough against the run. Their offense was very similar to the spread that Oscar Smith runs. Their running game is good enough to keep their opponents off guard.

Underrated & I pick them to beat Westfield when it counts, late in the year & be the 6A North representative in Hampton mid December! SO, they are underrated!

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7) The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9) After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR) The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR) The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

Underrated. Proven system HS Program. Would be my 2nd choice for 6A North Regional Champs. SO, underrated!

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15) Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11) The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR) Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17) Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR) The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ricky Tan ()
Date: August 26, 2016 12:29PM

Ronaldo enjoyed a sensational 2015/16, winning the UEFA Champions League with Madrid before leading his country to UEFA EURO 2016 glory. The 31-year-old beat off competition from club-mate Gareth Bale and Atlético Madrid striker Antoine Griezmann to land the award he first picked up in 2013/14.

Full results
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid/POR) 40
Antoine Griezmann (Atlético Madrid/FRA) 8
Gareth Bale (Real Madrid/WAL) 7


Ronaldo's 2015/16 records and milestones

Madrid's all-time leading scorer in the Liga
Five hundred career goals for club and country
Madrid's all-time record goalscorer
Most goals in a single group stage
Second to Lionel Messi in FIFA Ballon d'Or
Second top scorer in Liga history
Decisive penalty in Champions League final
2015/16 UEFA Champions League top scorer
Portugal's all-time most-capped player
UEFA.com Goal of the Season poll winner
Most all-time EURO finals appearances
Scores in fourth EURO final tournament
Joint-most EURO final tournament goals
Dramatic UEFA EURO 2016 triumph
Spanish Liga: 36 appearances, 35 goals, 11 assists
UEFA Champions League: 12 appearances, 16 goals, 4 assists
UEFA EURO 2016: 7 appearances, 3 goals, 3 assists

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Antoine Griezmannnn ()
Date: August 26, 2016 12:31PM

GEULF Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GROUP A
> >
> > Paris Saint-Germain
> > Arsenal
> > FC Basel
> > Ludogorets Razgrad
> >
> > GROUP B
> >
> > Benfica
> > Napoli
> > Dynamo Kiev
> > Besiktas
> >
> > GROUP C
> >
> > Barcelona
> > Manchester City
> > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > Celtic
> >
> > GROUP D
> >
> > Bayern Munich
> > Atletico Madrid
> > PSV Eindhoven
> > Rostov
> >
> > GROUP E
> >
> > CSKA Moscow
> > Bayer Leverkusen
> > Tottenham Hotspur
> > Monaco
> >
> > GROUP F
> >
> > Real Madrid
> > Borussia Dortmund
> > Sporting
> > Legia Warsaw
> >
> > GROUP G
> >
> > Leicester City
> > Porto
> > Club Brugge
> > FC Copenhagen
> >
> > GROUP H
> >
> > Juventus
> > Sevilla
> > Lyon
> > Dinamo Zagreb
> >
> > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > September 13, 14
> > September 27, 28
> > October 18, 19
> > November 1, 2
> > November 22, 23
> > December 6, 7
>
>
> Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have for
> top scorer this year?
>
>
>
> Suarez?
>
> Greizmann?
>
> Messi?
>
> Ronaldo?
>
> Bale?
>
> Anyone outside la liga?


I think Griezmann is set for another excellent season. Maybe even taking it up another level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: City Fan ()
Date: August 26, 2016 12:39PM

Gol de Ronaldoooooo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GEULF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GROUP A
> > >
> > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > Arsenal
> > > FC Basel
> > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > >
> > > GROUP B
> > >
> > > Benfica
> > > Napoli
> > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > Besiktas
> > >
> > > GROUP C
> > >
> > > Barcelona
> > > Manchester City
> > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > Celtic
> > >
> > > GROUP D
> > >
> > > Bayern Munich
> > > Atletico Madrid
> > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > Rostov
> > >
> > > GROUP E
> > >
> > > CSKA Moscow
> > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > Monaco
> > >
> > > GROUP F
> > >
> > > Real Madrid
> > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > Sporting
> > > Legia Warsaw
> > >
> > > GROUP G
> > >
> > > Leicester City
> > > Porto
> > > Club Brugge
> > > FC Copenhagen
> > >
> > > GROUP H
> > >
> > > Juventus
> > > Sevilla
> > > Lyon
> > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > >
> > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > September 13, 14
> > > September 27, 28
> > > October 18, 19
> > > November 1, 2
> > > November 22, 23
> > > December 6, 7
> >
> >
> > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have
> for
> > top scorer this year?
> >
> >
> >
> > Suarez?
> >
> > Greizmann?
> >
> > Messi?
> >
> > Ronaldo?
> >
> > Bale?
> >
> > Anyone outside la liga?
>
>
> Suarez or Ronaldo.


WTF is all this shit. No love for the EPL? Arsenal is going to be average, Chelsea a bit better. But the Manchester clubs should be making some noise in their European competitions this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lnnKd ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:08PM

City Fan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Gol de Ronaldoooooo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GEULF Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > GROUP A
> > > >
> > > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > > Arsenal
> > > > FC Basel
> > > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > > >
> > > > GROUP B
> > > >
> > > > Benfica
> > > > Napoli
> > > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > > Besiktas
> > > >
> > > > GROUP C
> > > >
> > > > Barcelona
> > > > Manchester City
> > > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > > Celtic
> > > >
> > > > GROUP D
> > > >
> > > > Bayern Munich
> > > > Atletico Madrid
> > > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > > Rostov
> > > >
> > > > GROUP E
> > > >
> > > > CSKA Moscow
> > > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > > Monaco
> > > >
> > > > GROUP F
> > > >
> > > > Real Madrid
> > > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > > Sporting
> > > > Legia Warsaw
> > > >
> > > > GROUP G
> > > >
> > > > Leicester City
> > > > Porto
> > > > Club Brugge
> > > > FC Copenhagen
> > > >
> > > > GROUP H
> > > >
> > > > Juventus
> > > > Sevilla
> > > > Lyon
> > > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > > >
> > > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > > September 13, 14
> > > > September 27, 28
> > > > October 18, 19
> > > > November 1, 2
> > > > November 22, 23
> > > > December 6, 7
> > >
> > >
> > > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys
> have
> > for
> > > top scorer this year?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Suarez?
> > >
> > > Greizmann?
> > >
> > > Messi?
> > >
> > > Ronaldo?
> > >
> > > Bale?
> > >
> > > Anyone outside la liga?
> >
> >
> > Suarez or Ronaldo.
>
>
> WTF is all this shit. No love for the EPL?
> Arsenal is going to be average, Chelsea a bit
> better. But the Manchester clubs should be making
> some noise in their European competitions this
> year.

Ibra should have a nice season at United, too bad it will be in the Europa league and not the Champions League. I'm not sure if Man City will focus their efforts on the Premier League or focus on Europe. It sure will be interesting to see what Pep does with that team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Who is this idiot? ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:48PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: conf7fan ()

Date: August 26, 2016 10:34AM


For all us Westfield haters I think this will be our year. Word is that their defense will suck big time this season. They got owned by both DeMatha and Quince Orchard I hear. And their offense doesn’t have a running back and their offensive line is as weak as it has ever been. 6-4 season coming up.

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You're as bad as the lone troll who keeps interrupting this High School Football thread with the soccer garbage, yes here in the United States we refer to it as soccer. Nice attempt at rattling everyone on this thread that's here because of what it's intended for. The crickets you've been hearing are from those of us who are amused by your childish behavior and will not take the bait.

Westfield did get owned by Dematha, same as every year since they've scrimmaged them, just as ALL public schools would. WF was beaten more severely last year by Dematha but still wound up going 14-1 and winning the state title so not sure your pre-season prediction holds much hope.

Your info on the Quince Orchard scrimmage couldn't be farther from reality. Westfield moved the ball up and down the field against QO. The couple scores QO got were either from long passes or passes that set up short scores. Each one of those big plays on QO's behalf looked more as a blown coverage on WF's part than anything else. But make no mistake, QO is a quality team as they typically are.

As far as WF not having a run game, you're an idiot. Their best RB is out, will be back soon, his back up probably ran for 100 yards or close to it. Their O-line is huge, did get a couple injuries last night, hopefully those two guys ill be okay.

WF's defense may not be as strong as it was last year, but it will be better than most. Their front 7 will be tough to run against. QO didn't have much success which is why they went to the air. The secondary could use some help but they'll be okay against most teams. Ladarian Rivers(#23) for WF is a BEAST, big DE who will wreak havoc this year, heard it hear first.

If WF goes 6-4 it'll be because all of their key starters get injured, the team isn't as deep as years past but they've certainly got talent. Plus, WF coaching staff has finally realized you play your best players on both sides of the ball. Not all game but just enough to win, started that last year, no surprise they won it all.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: COME ON YOU SPURS!!! ()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:57PM

I think Tottenham have a good chance this year in the EPL.





COME ON YOU SPURS!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Back to naked boys ()
Date: August 26, 2016 02:05PM

Ricky Tan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ronaldo enjoyed a sensational 2015/16, winning the
> UEFA Champions League with Madrid before leading
> his country to UEFA EURO 2016 glory. The
> 31-year-old beat off competition from club-mate
> Gareth Bale and Atlético Madrid striker Antoine
> Griezmann to land the award he first picked up in
> 2013/14.
>
> Full results
> Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid/POR) 40
> Antoine Griezmann (Atlético Madrid/FRA) 8
> Gareth Bale (Real Madrid/WAL) 7
>
>
> Ronaldo's 2015/16 records and milestones
>
> Madrid's all-time leading scorer in the Liga
> Five hundred career goals for club and country
> Madrid's all-time record goalscorer
> Most goals in a single group stage
> Second to Lionel Messi in FIFA Ballon d'Or
> Second top scorer in Liga history
> Decisive penalty in Champions League final
> 2015/16 UEFA Champions League top scorer
> Portugal's all-time most-capped player
> UEFA.com Goal of the Season poll winner
> Most all-time EURO finals appearances
> Scores in fourth EURO final tournament
> Joint-most EURO final tournament goals
> Dramatic UEFA EURO 2016 triumph
> Spanish Liga: 36 appearances, 35 goals, 11
> assists
> UEFA Champions League: 12 appearances, 16 goals, 4
> assists
> UEFA EURO 2016: 7 appearances, 3 goals, 3 assists

Fuck off with all this soccer shit
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sooo UNDERRATED ()
Date: August 26, 2016 02:47PM

South County Will fall on their Face Again when it really counts (underrated for a reason), probably will beat Westfield Week 2, might even beat Lake Braddock Week 10, WILL NOT WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP...It starts OFf the Field, migrates to the Locker Room and Then the COACHING STAFF...That's Their Problem and Coach P knows IT!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 02:53PM

Good night Juvenile TROLL.

08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls


BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).
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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls08/26/16

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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls


BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).


08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls


BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).
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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls08/26/16

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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls


BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).
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08/26/16

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C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls08/26/16

Home_____________Away

C. D. Hylton vs Battlefield

Jackson vs Woodbridge

N. Stafford vs Osborn

Osborn Park vs Forest Park

Patriot vs Stafford

McLean vs Annandale

Mt. Vernon vs Washington Lee

Mt View vs Freedom

Gar-Field vs Potomac

Colonial Forge vs Brooke Point

Riverbend vs Chancellor

Massaponax vs Courtland

Briar Woods vs Tuscarora

Broad Run vs Potomac Falls


BEST DEFENSES-6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 Smith
3 Battlefield
4 Braddock
5 Westfield
6 Hylton
7 Western Branch
8 Madison
9 Thomas Dale
10 Robinson

BEST DEFENSES-5A
1 L.C. Bird
2 Hampton
3 Salem
4 Hermitage
5 Highland Springs
6 PONAX
7 Bethel
8 Lee-Davis
9 Potomac Falls
10 Indian River


BEST OFFENSES -5A
1 Highland Springs
2 L.C. Bird
3 TUSKY
4 PONAX
5 Hermitage
6 Hampton
7 Mountain View
8 N Stafford
9 Atlee
10 Stone Bridge


BEST OFFENSES -6A
1 Ocean Lakes
2 SOCO
3 Braddock
4 Oscar Smith
5 Manchester
6 WePo
7 Westfield
8 C.D. Hylton
9 Western Branch
10 Forge
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2016 High School Football Preview
Story by Mark Giannotto, Dillon Mullan, Nick Eilerson, Eric Goldwein, Dan Roth
Published on August 24, 2016

Story lines | The Post's Preseason Top 20 | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

Story lines
Scaling back offenses

Three years ago, the spread offense was all the rage in Fairfax County. High school football coaches across the area were mimicking the playbooks of successful coaches such as Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer, placing the quarterback in the shotgun and multiple receivers out wide in a hurry-up attack meant to keep defenses off balance.

The spread remains prevalent heading into this season, but several local teams are dialing back a whirlwind offensive approach that can engender more confusion than execution at the high school level.

No one was more ambitious about implementing the spread than Trey Taylor in 2014. Intent on transforming a middling South Lakes football team into a fast-paced steamroller, Taylor installed a true no-huddle offense in the mold of Kelly’s famous Oregon juggernaut. Goofy picture signs relayed play calls to offensive personnel, who scurried frantically from one play to the next without pause.

The experiment didn’t work out. South Lakes finished 2-8 that season, failing to score on four occasions.

“What it was doing to us the first year was we were getting more snaps in a game, but our defense was so bad that it put the defense on the field more,” Taylor said.

Last season Taylor scrapped the signs and tweaked the hurry-up, instead making his offense snap the ball within two seconds of breaking the huddle before every play. The Seahawks’ revised spread-option attack yielded a breakout 9-3 campaign.

Mike Scott is looking to simplify a different sort of spread attack at Annandale. The Atoms try to wear teams down with a hurry-up power scheme in the mold of Gus Malzahn’s Auburn offense, but miscommunication and self-inflicted blunders made it clear that the playbook needed trimming.

In neighboring Loudoun County, Briar Woods’s experiment with the spread failed to yield consistent results during last year’s 3-8 campaign. The Falcons plan on taking their time more in 2016.

“You score quick or you go three and out quick. It makes it tough on your defense,” Briar Woods Coach Charlie Pierce said. “This year we’re going to slow it down. No rush.”

[Pass-happy offenses are trendy, but workhorse running backs still rule high school football]

Everywhere you look, the tweaking continues. Jared Van Acker planned to install a pass-happy spread in his first season as Battlefield’s coach last year, but the Bobcats ended up pounding Prince William rival Hylton, 28-0, with a familiar brand of smash-mouth football in their season opener. Lake Braddock, a pure spread team three years ago, tilted its emphasis toward the run game and will continue to do so this fall.

Powerhouses such as Battlefield, Lake Braddock, Westfield and Centreville tend to churn out the big bodies needed to pound the ball. But smaller schools like Annandale and South Lakes feel that trickier spread schemes present the only path to stay competitive.

“Those bigger schools can win the war of attrition, whereas we’re going to have wear you out,” Scott said.

— Nick Eilerson



As Loudoun grows, Richmond resurges

During a 10-year span from 2003 to 2012, the state championship game in Virginia’s highest classification was won by a team representing Northern Virginia or Hampton Roads eight times.

Since the Virginia High School League’s realignment shifted postseason competition from four regions to a two-region format before the 2013 season, only four schools have competed for a championship in 6A: Fairfax’s Centreville andWestfield and the Tidewater region’s Oscar Smith and Ocean Lakes.

While that shake-up three years ago has not changed the status quo at the top, it has disrupted the balance of power in lower classifications.

Ashburn’s Broad Run and Briar Woods combined for five straight AA Division 4 state titles from 2008 to 2012 before being re-classified and moving up to 5A. In the three seasons since, L.C. Bird and Highland Springs have won 5A titles over Loudoun schools representing the 5A North region. The Richmond-based schools were part of AAA Division 6 before moving down to 5A in 2013.

“The Loudoun schools like Broad Run and Briar Woods, we were some of the biggest 4A schools, and that put us at an advantage,” said Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett, who coached Broad Run to the AA Division 4 title in 2008 and 2009. “Now we’re the smallest 5A schools, which is a disadvantage. If you look at the games, in Division 4 we played some state championship games that weren’t as competitive. In 5A, there’s a lot more parity between the teams.”

Loudoun schools have continued to dominate their region, however. Tuscarora reached its first state final in 2014, and Stone Bridge advanced to a county-record sixth title game in December. Loudoun County has been represented in a state final in nine straight seasons since 2007. But the opening of three new Loudoun high schools since 2012 has diluted the talent pool at some of the county’s traditional powers and appears to have shifted the balance of power to the center of the state in the VHSL’s second-largest classification.

— Dillon Mullan

Transfers of power

Perennial title contenders are built through talent pipelines flowing from youth leagues to middle schools and into the high school ranks. But this fall, as with past seasons, the D.C. area’s top teams are leaning on transfers to put them over the top.

To aid in its fight to end DeMatha and Good Counsel’s 13-year reign as Washington Catholic Athletic Conference champions, St. John’s welcomes a group of promising transfers. Senior quarterback Kasim Hill, a Maryland commit, and freshman linebacker Shane Lee — who already has offers from seven schools — arrived in Northwest Washington from the Gilman School in Baltimore. Senior defensive tackle Cam Spence, another Maryland commit, joins St. John’s from the IMG Academy in Florida along with 6-foot-6, 310-pound Orlando native and Auburn commit Calvin Ashley.

Defending 4A state champion Wise added one of the area’s most imposing defenders after 6-foot-3, 220-pound defensive end Isaac Ukwu transferred from Springbrook. Ukwu, who has 19 college offers, will be joined at Wise by former O’Connell linebacker Calvin Hickerson.

Damascus, the defending Maryland 3A state champion, is adding running back Elijah Atkins, a senior from Urbana, to help replace graduated All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk. And in Loudoun County, Bradley Block had the opportunity to become Briar Woods’s all-time leading rusher but he transferred to Stone Bridge. Now Block teams up with dynamic running back Josh Breece to form one of Virginia’s most dangerous backfields.

— Eric Goldwein and Dillon Mullan
New title game sites

For some, the size of the University of Virginia’s Scott Stadium and Baltimore’s M&T Bank Stadium took away from the atmosphere at high school state championship games. As the state finals move to new venues this December, local schools have mixed reactions on either side of the Potomac.

After the Ravens replaced their artificial turf with natural grass, the Maryland high school football championships will move about 30 miles south to Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. The venue has a capacity of 34,000 compared with 71,008 seats in Baltimore.

“The stadium itself is more conducive to high school football,” Wise Coach DaLawn Parrish said. “I think it’ll be a better atmosphere in terms of that.”

The Virginia High School League’s executive committee voted to relocate the Class 6A and 5A football state finals to Hampton University’s Armstrong Stadium, which holds over 12,000 compared with Scott Stadium’s 61,500.

While the game experience will be enhanced by fewer empty seats, local schools worry that the fan experience could be diminished by the location of the stadium. Fairfax and Loudoun County teams traveled about 100 miles to Charlottesville while many of their opponents from the greater Norfolk area traveled twice as far.

Now Northern Virginia schools will have to travel 200 miles to play state championship games in Hampton Roads — the back yard of a number of the state’s perennial football powers.

“The first thing is location. That’s the problem. You’ve made it incredibly difficult for our fans to come,” Tuscarora Coach Mike Burnett said. “It’s tough to travel. You’re going to have to get on a bus for four hours while somebody else has to get on a bus for 30 minutes. I think it’s a poor choice for that reason.”

— Dillon Mullan

The Post's Preseason Top 20

Story lines | Previews | Games to watch | All-Met Watch

1. DeMatha (2015 record: 11-1; final 2015 ranking: No. 2)

The three-time defending WCAC champions lost a talented senior class, but a roster full of potential college prospects and the return of 10 starters mean the Stags shouldn’t miss a beat.

2. Wise (14-0; No. 3)

The defending Maryland 4A state champions remain the team to beat in Prince George’s County with a plethora of skill position talent back and two crucial transfers on defense.

Westfield quarterback Rehman Johnson hurdles center KenYoshino for a 1st down run in the Virginia 6A North region football championship. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)

3. Westfield (14-1; No. 4)

Even without graduated do-it-all athlete Tyler Scanlon leading the way, the Bulldogs have the depth on both sides of the ball to defend their Virginia 6A state title.

4. Damascus (14-0; No. 1)

No more All-Met Player of the Year Jake Funk, but the Swarmin’ Hornets’ ground game remains a weapon with Markus Vinson and Urbana transfer Elijah Atkins in the backfield.

5. Gonzaga (11-2; No. 5)

Tailback Tyree Randolph, wide receiver Max Fisher and offensive tackle Johnny Jordan lead an experienced senior class in search of the Eagles’ first WCAC title since 2002.

6. Lake Braddock (11-2; No. 12)

As if senior tailbacks Lamont Atkins and Ibrahim Mansaray weren’t difficult enough to bring down on their own, the Bruins head into this season witha massive offensive line.

7. Good Counsel (7-5; No. 16)

The Falcons have ample talent in place on both sides of the ball to rebound from an up-and-down 2015 campaign and return to the WCAC championship game.

8. Quince Orchard (10-2; No. 13)

Quarterback Doc Bonner, running back Marvin Beander and wide receiver Fofie Bazzie make the Cougars one of the area’s most experienced and dangerous offenses.

9. St. John’s (7-4; No. 18)

A collection of highly touted transfers, most notably Maryland quarterback recruit Kasim Hill, and new Coach Joe Casamento could push the Cadets to the top of the WCAC.

10. Stone Bridge (10-5; No. 8)

The Defending 5A North region champions have been to six state title games since 2005, and running back Joshua Breece and a more stingy defense could lead them to a seventh.

11. South County (13-1; No. 6)

Still smarting from last year’s 6A North region final loss to Westfield, the Stallions have the talent and motivation to make a run at their first Virginia 6A state title.

12. Patuxent (12-2; No. 7)

The defending Maryland 2A state champions will be a threat to repeat with talented dual-threat quarterbacks Reese Crounse and Jaelen Grossback in the fold.

13. Tuscarora (13-1; No. 9)

After back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, Tuscarora enters 2016 with a new quarterback in sophomore Justin Allen but the same lofty expectations.

14. Episcopal (6-1-1; NR)

The Maroon added former Bishop Ireton tailback Perris Jones to a roster featuring defensive lineman Luiji Vilain (Michigan) and safety Jonathan Sutherland (Penn State).

15. Battlefield (9-3; NR)

The Bobcats are eyeing their first Virginia state crown since 2010 with nose guard Brailyn Franklin back and a beefy offensive line paving the way for a formidable rushing attack.

16. Sherwood (10-2; 15)

Senior running back Travis Levy is ready to lead the offense with wide receiver Marcus Simms and quarterback Shawn Bliss graduated from last year’s region finalist squad.

17. Old Mill (11-1; No. 11)

The Patriots’ dominant regular season turned sour after an early exit in the playoffs last year, but they’re out for redemption with many key contributors back in Millersville.

18. Eleanor Roosevelt (9-3; NR)

Senior Karl Mofor is among the area’s most valuable players because of his role as the Raiders’ primary runner on offense and a menacing linebacker on defense.

19. Northwest (9-4; No. 17)

Quarterback Chris Craddock steps in for Mark Pierce as the Jaguars look to win their third Maryland 4A state title in four years.

20. H.D. Woodson (8-5; NR)

The three-time defending Turkey Bowl champions could be a force this fall if junior quarterback Khalil Wright continues to improve at the clip he was able to last year.

On the bubble: Broadneck (10-3), Georgetown Prep (7-3), Howard (13-1), Hylton (9-3), Potomac (Md.) (10-3).
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 04:41PM

Two Northern powers face off with unfinished business

by Jim McGrath, recruitNoVA

Hylton (0-0) at Battlefield (0-0), Friday 7:00 PM, Battlefield HS (Haymarket)

Hylton (9-3 in 2015) will look to avenge the embarrassment of its 28-0 loss in last year’s opener. In that game, star Bulldog running back Ricky Slade gained a mere 36 yards on 13 carries.

Slade has been hampered by a torn lateral meniscus in his right knee, which he injured earlier in the summer. However, the junior, who rates near, or at, the top of all national Class of 2018 running back rankings, aims to be back in top form soon, and must be in order for Hylton to contend for a state title.

If Slade plays, the Bulldogs should be in good shape, as he will run behind a huge offensive line that includes tackles Daniel Horne (6-5, 320, RT, Sr.) and Christian Deboghossian (6-0, 270, LT, Sr.), junior center Chris Emerson (6-0, 280), right guard Augustine O’Connell (6-4, 265, RG, Sr.) and tight end Jarrett Powell (6-3, 235, Sr.). Nevertheless, the Bulldogs are inexperienced at quarterback, where either Brandon Benson or Jordan Davis will get the starting nod.

Battlefield (also 9-3 in 2015) will counter on defense with senior nose guard Brailyn Franklin, who racked up 17 sacks and 15 tackles for loss in 2015. Franklin has already committed to play for Penn State next year. Mason Crawford will give him assistance from the defensive end position, and All-State linebacker Josh King is the linchpin for the unit, or as Bobcat Coach Jared Van Acker calls him, “The General.”

Battlefield will also feature a new quarterback. There have been two candidates – Neil Dorsey and Jonah Seagears. Both have dual threat ability. The Bobcats will be loaded at running back where Chris Ferrill and Sean Greene will hold court. Ferrill and Greene combined for over 1,900 yards and 18 touchdowns in 2015. Ferrill is smaller at 5-9 and 170 pounds, while Greene serves as the jackhammer at 5-10 and 215. The pair will be joined by speedy Trevor Walker (5-9, 165) who completes the trio, which Van Acker has labeled the “3-Headed Monster.”

They will also have a powerful line in front of them, led by guards Jake Folland and Jason Portillo and second-team All-Conference tight end Cole Swingle.

This should provide a great early matchup for two of Prince William County’s best squads from last year – teams who are aiming to go deep into the 6A playoffs. Van Acker believes that the key for a Battlefield victory will be to “maintain discipline, execute on offense and win the third phase of the game – special teams.”

– Jim McGrath
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VLxtF ()
Date: August 26, 2016 04:48PM

Atlanta Falcons rookie safety Keanu Neal will undergo arthroscopic knee surgery Monday and will be sidelined three to four weeks, meaning he is expected to miss the Sept. 11 season opener against Tampa Bay.

Neal, the Falcons' first-round draft selection, suffered the right knee injury in Thursday night's preseason loss to the Miami Dolphins. He missed a tackle attempt on running back Arian Foster, then went to the ground in pain.


Free-agent safety William Moore wants another shot with Falcons
With Atlanta thin at safety after Keanu Neal's injury, former Falcon William Moore makes it clear he's "ready" and eager to return if they want him.
Falcons coach Dan Quinn hopes that the worst-case scenario is for Neal to miss three games.

"From all of us who know Keanu, you know he's going to put a thousand percent into all the rehab to get ready," Quinn said Friday. "We know kind of what he stands for and the toughness, so I'd expect the shorter-term [amount of time being out] with him. He's kind of just built that way."

This is the second injury this preseason for Neal, who also missed the preseason opener against Washington with a "trunk" injury.

The Falcons already were down one strong safety with Neal's backup, Kemal Ishmael, sidelined with a shoulder injury. Quinn said Ishmael is expected to return to practice in a limited role Sunday. The other players in Atlanta's strong safety rotation are Damian Parms and rookie Sharrod Neasman.

Quinn also said Friday that the Falcons will potentially sign a veteran free-agent safety but that the team is not considering bringing back William Moore, who was released earlier this year.

Moore, who told ESPN earlier Friday that he would "absolutely" come back to the Falcons, didn't fit well in Quinn's scheme last season.

Neal is expected to have a significant impact on the defense upon his return. He is known for his hard-hitting style, and coaches say he's already mature beyond his years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loganville GA ()
Date: August 26, 2016 04:53PM

kt6oM Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GROUP A
> >
> > Paris Saint-Germain
> > Arsenal
> > FC Basel
> > Ludogorets Razgrad
> >
> > GROUP B
> >
> > Benfica
> > Napoli
> > Dynamo Kiev
> > Besiktas
> >
> > GROUP C
> >
> > Barcelona
> > Manchester City
> > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > Celtic
> >
> > GROUP D
> >
> > Bayern Munich
> > Atletico Madrid
> > PSV Eindhoven
> > Rostov
> >
> > GROUP E
> >
> > CSKA Moscow
> > Bayer Leverkusen
> > Tottenham Hotspur
> > Monaco
> >
> > GROUP F
> >
> > Real Madrid
> > Borussia Dortmund
> > Sporting
> > Legia Warsaw
> >
> > GROUP G
> >
> > Leicester City
> > Porto
> > Club Brugge
> > FC Copenhagen
> >
> > GROUP H
> >
> > Juventus
> > Sevilla
> > Lyon
> > Dinamo Zagreb
> >
> > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > September 13, 14
> > September 27, 28
> > October 18, 19
> > November 1, 2
> > November 22, 23
> > December 6, 7
>
> What do you think of group G, looks like it sucks.


Yeah it doesn't look great but these new rules should really benefit the top 4 countries.


Europe's top four leagues will have four guaranteed places in the Champions League group stage from the 2018-19 season, UEFA has confirmed.

The top four leagues in the UEFA coefficient ranking -- currently La Liga, the Bundesliga, Premier League and Serie A -- will see four teams enter the group stage without having to go through a qualification round.

Currently, La Liga, the Bundesliga and the Premier League are guaranteed three group spots, with a fourth possible through the qualifying round, while Serie A has two guaranteed spots and a third possible via qualification.

The Premier League was in danger of losing one its places to Serie A at the end of this season, particularly after Sassuolo qualified for this season's Europa League group stage while West Ham were eliminated, but both leagues will now get four Champions League spots.

The top flights in Russia, Portugal and France are currently all vying to be Europe's fifth-ranked division but are some distance behind the current top four.

However, the coefficient system will be revamped with clubs judged only on their own records and historical success in European competition also acknowledged.

UEFA has also confirmed that the Europa League winners will now automatically qualify for the Champions League group stage. At present the winners enter at the playoff stage by right, but are elevated to the group stage if the holders also qualify via league position.

The revamp will also involve a change to the way in which clubs are paid, with UEFA explaining: "A new four-pillar financial distribution system (starting fee, performance in the competition, individual club coefficient and market pool) will see sporting performances better rewarded, while market pool share will decrease."

Sources had told ESPN FC earlier this month that the measures were set to be approved after tough negotiations, with a number of clubs from top leagues having threatened to boycott the Champions League if their demands were not met.

The threat of a breakaway European Super League had appeared significant earlier this year, and Press Association Sport reports that the biggest push for change has come from Spain and Italy, the nation that looks set to benefit the most from the alteration.

UEFA general secretary ad interim Theodore Theodoridis said: "The evolution of UEFA's club competitions is the result of a wide-ranging consultative process involving all stakeholders and taking into account a wide range of expertise and perspectives.

"The amendments made will continue to ensure qualification based on sporting merit, and the right of all associations and their clubs to compete in Europe's elite club competitions.

"We are happy that European football remains united behind the concepts of solidarity, fair competition, fair distribution and good governance."

Adjustments to the current format of the Champions League can only begin in 2018 as that is when the next three-year commercial cycle starts.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oscar P sentencing. ()
Date: August 26, 2016 04:56PM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> My small penis is getting enlarged to somewhere
> just shy of average size thinking about my bulls,
> my dogs, my bulldogs, love em, winners every one
> of them, the chosen ones, the chosen team, the
> chosen school.....
>
> Oh and I forgot - dixie cupping again this weekend
> at my house.
>
> WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JOHANNESBURG -- A South African judge on Friday dismissed an appeal by prosecutors for a harsher sentence against Oscar Pistorius, who was found guilty of murder for killing his girlfriend in 2013.

Judge Thokozile Masipa said the state's appeal to extend the six-year sentence against the 29-year-old double amputee Olympic sprinter had a limited prospect of success.

"I am not persuaded that there are reasonable prospects of success for an appeal," she said in the South Gauteng High Court in Johannesburg.

Pistorius shot Reeva Steenkamp, 29, in the early-morning hours of Feb. 14, 2013. He claimed he thought she was an intruder. The state charged that he shot her in anger after an argument. Pistorius was found guilty of murder and sentenced by Masipa to six years in prison.

The sentence was described as "shockingly lenient," prosecutor Gerrie Nel said Friday, adding that the judge should have used a 15-year minimum sentence as a starting point because Steenkamp had suffered a "horrendous death."

Pistorius never offered an acceptable explanation for having fired four shots through the toilet door, Nel said.

The fact that Pistorius fired four shots using hollow-point bullets that are designed to inflict maximum damage meant the possibility of death was more likely and should have been an aggravating factor, Nel said.

The state may appeal Masipa's decision at the Supreme Court of Appeals in the city of Bloemfontein, but has yet to indicate whether it will do so.

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Posted by: Q&A on new Format ()
Date: August 26, 2016 05:19PM

UEFA has approved structural changes to the Champions League, with the biggest move being automatic group stage qualification for the top four teams from the top four leagues, beginning in the 2018-19 season. Gab Marcotti looks at how this came about.

Q: So all has been revealed. Europe's rich get richer. The top four leagues will all have four guaranteed spots in the Champions League group stage. It's official now, right?

A: This pretty much confirms what some of us had previously reported. There are still some very minor details to work through, but UEFA interim general secretary Theo Theodoridis says it's done, and he would know. It's a brave new world.

Q: So did UEFA just lie down for the big clubs?

A: They would say they haven't. They had to strike a balance between the big boys, who make the Champions League more attractive to the guys who pay the bills -- broadcasters and sponsors mostly -- and the small and midsized associations.

"We had one target: Keeping the dream alive," Theodoridis said. "[That means] Allowing all countries to have access to our competitions and maintaining the champions path [to qualification.]. There is an impact [on smaller and midsized associations], I agree. But we minimized it."

Q: It's almost as if he's suggesting it could have been worse.

A: "Worse" depends on your point of view. Some of the things that were discussed at the request of the clubs would have made the Champions League an even more lucrative competition.

We're talking about wild-card entries for historically big clubs who fail to qualify; this year, for example, think Milan, Manchester United and Liverpool, who have 15 European Cups between them.

Or playing games on weekends, when they can reach a far greater global audience; Asia is asleep and North and South America are at work or school during Champions League games. Or, heck, playing games in other continents.

None of these things will come to pass at least until 2021, as Theodoridis noted. Nor will clubs be boycotting the Champions League or setting up their own competition.

Q: How real was that threat of clubs pulling out of the Champions League?

A: Theodoridis suggests it wasn't much more than a negotiating ploy. Others with knowledge of the talks said it was real enough to prompt this compromise.

Q: So I guess the big winners are the top four nations? That's Spain, Germany, England and, especially, Italy.

A: Yes, provided they stay in the top four. Italy's case is pretty telling. Right now, they have two guaranteed places, plus another in the playoffs for the third-place team in Serie A. But that side has been knocked out in the playoffs in five of the past six seasons. So, effectively, they're doubling their presence.

Q: But if the Italian teams aren't that good and can't make it past the playoffs, why should they be in the competition?

A: Great question. Because, I think, merit matters less here than money. Italy has the second-biggest Champions League contract, after England. Obviously broadcasters and sponsors will pay more if they know clubs are guaranteed a spot, rather than running the risk of getting knocked out in the playoffs.

Q: Sounds like an unfair system.

A: In some ways it is. But UEFA are also hoping folks will look at it a different way. Having more clubs from big leagues in the competition means the overall revenue will be higher; much higher, they hope. And that means there's more money to redistribute to clubs.

Q: Didn't you write last time that 35 percent of the revenue is distributed via that "market pool," whereby teams from countries with bigger TV contracts get a bigger share?

A: I did. And that's one thing that has changed. Only 15 percent of revenue will be allocated via the market pool. The other 85 percent will be distributed in prize money, including some 25 percent to be shared equally by all clubs who qualify. So that means teams from midsized leagues that do well in the competition will earn more in two ways: The overall revenues will, UEFA hope, be higher, and teams will get a bigger slice of the pie.

Q: That sounds more fair.

A: It is, although, again, the devil is in the detail. Part of that merit payment will be awarded based on a new coefficient system that will also track historical performance. Which means that, say, Ajax with their four European Cups will get more points than Leicester. It will be weighted, and the details are not only very complicated but also not fully defined.

Q: What else have they come up with?

A: The other big change is that a new company is being set up, half-owned by UEFA and half-owned by the European Clubs Association (ECA), to run the European competitions. So rather than being indirectly represented via their national associations, clubs will effectively be in business with UEFA. (They sort of were before, of course, but now it's formalized.)

Q: Aren't UEFA having elections in a few weeks? Couldn't they wait until they have a new president before they take such a drastic step?

A: Indeed, they'll be electing a new president on Sept. 14 but, as Theodoridis said, they had been working on this for six months. And, he said, they had to go to market and pitch sponsors and broadcasters. The 2018-19 season is less than two years away and they had to get contracts tied up.

Besides, of the three guys running for president, Holland's Michael van Praag and Spain's Angel Maria Villar Llona sit on UEFA's Executive Committee, so you assume they have signed off on this. And the third candidate, Slovenia's Aleksandar Ceferin, is supposedly also on board.

Q: So that's that, then. I guess it at least means we won't have a breakaway European Super League.

A: At least until 2021, anyway. The hope, I think, is that these changes will boost revenue so much that everyone -- primarily the big clubs -- will benefit and be happy to the point that they'll forget about breaking away.

Q: Is that likely?

A: As the saying goes, you can never be too rich or too thin. I think history shows that when clubs get more money, they tend to spend it on wages and transfer fees. And because everybody is spending more, there will be some, even among the big clubs, who will be left behind. And that in turn means they'll grumble. And we may end up going through this whole thing all over again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scores ()
Date: August 26, 2016 08:12PM

Before half

Dematha 21 Oscar smith 7
Battlefield 7 Hylton 0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Getting ugly ()
Date: August 26, 2016 09:07PM

35-7 Dematha over Oscar Smith 4th Qtr

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 3erU4 ()
Date: August 26, 2016 09:54PM

lnnKd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> City Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gol de Ronaldoooooo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GEULF Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > GROUP A
> > > > >
> > > > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > > > Arsenal
> > > > > FC Basel
> > > > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP B
> > > > >
> > > > > Benfica
> > > > > Napoli
> > > > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > > > Besiktas
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP C
> > > > >
> > > > > Barcelona
> > > > > Manchester City
> > > > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > > > Celtic
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP D
> > > > >
> > > > > Bayern Munich
> > > > > Atletico Madrid
> > > > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > > > Rostov
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP E
> > > > >
> > > > > CSKA Moscow
> > > > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > > > Monaco
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP F
> > > > >
> > > > > Real Madrid
> > > > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > > > Sporting
> > > > > Legia Warsaw
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP G
> > > > >
> > > > > Leicester City
> > > > > Porto
> > > > > Club Brugge
> > > > > FC Copenhagen
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP H
> > > > >
> > > > > Juventus
> > > > > Sevilla
> > > > > Lyon
> > > > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > > > >
> > > > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > > > September 13, 14
> > > > > September 27, 28
> > > > > October 18, 19
> > > > > November 1, 2
> > > > > November 22, 23
> > > > > December 6, 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys
> > have
> > > for
> > > > top scorer this year?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Suarez?
> > > >
> > > > Greizmann?
> > > >
> > > > Messi?
> > > >
> > > > Ronaldo?
> > > >
> > > > Bale?
> > > >
> > > > Anyone outside la liga?
> > >
> > >
> > > Suarez or Ronaldo.
> >
> >
> > WTF is all this shit. No love for the EPL?
> > Arsenal is going to be average, Chelsea a bit
> > better. But the Manchester clubs should be
> making
> > some noise in their European competitions this
> > year.
>
> Ibra should have a nice season at United, too bad
> it will be in the Europa league and not the
> Champions League. I'm not sure if Man City will
> focus their efforts on the Premier League or focus
> on Europe. It sure will be interesting to see what
> Pep does with that team.

United have take such a back step to City these last few years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Attach a File .... ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:16PM

Attach a File .... Wrote:
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> I saw RRS&E put out a pre-season Top 10 for NOVA:
>
> Rank Team
> 1 Westfield
> 2 South County
> 3 Tuscarora
> 4 Robinson
> 5 Lake Braddock
> 6 West Potomac
> 7 South Lakes
> 8 West Springfield
> 9 Hylton
> 10 Wakefield
>
> Why Tusky so high? As good as those Loudoun teams
> are they showed last year that they didn't have
> mettle play with the best of Fairfax - the
> top 4 from Fairfax last year got stronger and
> stronger (Wfd, SoCo, LB, Rob) as the year
> progressed while the Loudoun teams faded at the
> end giving up like 50 points per game.


Briar Woods 21 - Tuscarora 0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 26, 2016 10:40PM

DeMatha vs Oscar Smith

42-7 Thumping. It got out of hand with Smith worn out end of 3rd Quarter & 4th. BUT, Smith had their opportunities, & for the single score was running the ball well & at near mid field Shon Mitchell hit a long pass to the 1 yrd. & then they ran it in.

The whole game, it seemed liked Smith ran the ball when they should have passed & visa versa. At least 3 times they tried to pass for touchdowns in the red zone & never really tried to run the ball after having success running pretty much when ever they wanted to.

Smith's Defense could not handle the "no huddle offense" of DeMatha. The 3rd score was via a quick snap with Smith SLEEPIN instead of getting in position. DeMatha wasn't set but they snapped the ball & ran the ball right at the whistle to set the clock. The refs let them get away with it!

On to next week... That's how it goes. I've seen this many times now. Smith wasn't ready for a Nationally ranked team, they get throttled & they move through the rest of the regular season. As long as they keep getting better every week, I still think they will the favorites for the 6A South Regional Champs!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Who did better? ()
Date: August 27, 2016 12:07AM

Which team looked better against DeMatha? Westfield or Oscar Smith?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fubyr ()
Date: August 27, 2016 04:07AM

3erU4 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> lnnKd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > City Fan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gol de Ronaldoooooo Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > GEULF Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > GROUP A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > > > > Arsenal
> > > > > > FC Basel
> > > > > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP B
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Benfica
> > > > > > Napoli
> > > > > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > > > > Besiktas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP C
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Barcelona
> > > > > > Manchester City
> > > > > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > > > > Celtic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bayern Munich
> > > > > > Atletico Madrid
> > > > > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > > > > Rostov
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CSKA Moscow
> > > > > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > > > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > > > > Monaco
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP F
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Real Madrid
> > > > > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > > > > Sporting
> > > > > > Legia Warsaw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP G
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leicester City
> > > > > > Porto
> > > > > > Club Brugge
> > > > > > FC Copenhagen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP H
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Juventus
> > > > > > Sevilla
> > > > > > Lyon
> > > > > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > > > > September 13, 14
> > > > > > September 27, 28
> > > > > > October 18, 19
> > > > > > November 1, 2
> > > > > > November 22, 23
> > > > > > December 6, 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys
> > > have
> > > > for
> > > > > top scorer this year?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Suarez?
> > > > >
> > > > > Greizmann?
> > > > >
> > > > > Messi?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ronaldo?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bale?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone outside la liga?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Suarez or Ronaldo.
> > >
> > >
> > > WTF is all this shit. No love for the EPL?
> > > Arsenal is going to be average, Chelsea a bit
> > > better. But the Manchester clubs should be
> > making
> > > some noise in their European competitions
> this
> > > year.
> >
> > Ibra should have a nice season at United, too
> bad
> > it will be in the Europa league and not the
> > Champions League. I'm not sure if Man City
> will
> > focus their efforts on the Premier League or
> focus
> > on Europe. It sure will be interesting to see
> what
> > Pep does with that team.
>
> United have take such a back step to City these
> last few years.


Transfer window is still open expect more things to come.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PpNuk ()
Date: August 27, 2016 07:30AM

Who did better? Wrote:
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> Which team looked better against DeMatha?
> Westfield or Oscar Smith?

Oscar Smith probably had a bit more offensive success but you really can't compare a live game with a scrimmage.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 10:07AM

My stiffie is a little less stiff this morning since my best 757 dawgs the Oscar Smith Tigers got out cheated by DeMatha. Oh woe is me, Ocean Lakes all cheated out and everyone moved to cheat somewhere else, and now Oscar Smith not playing according to what the cheaters thought they might.

I will stare at pics of Trump's long flowing yellow locks and try to arrive at my stiffie again but I want everyone to remember that I have a small penis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 10:40AM

I am losing my stiffie too as when at the latest dixie cup gathering last night expressly for the Westfield playazs I had a revelation - this is wrong what we have done with the Westfield program, rampant disregard for ethics for rules for teaching young men to be upward looking citizens. We have fallen for idolatry for the program for the winning at all costs no matter the rules broken. We have to stop the madness.

NOT!!!!!!!

Winning
Winning
No whining
Winning!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 11:30AM

In case you missed it (or were too busy trolling each other), HS football kicked off last night. There were seven games played last night in Region 6A.

Scores:

Annandale 49, McLean 22
Mt. Vernon 44, Washington-Lee 28
Battlefield
Woodbridge 35, Stonewall Jackson 28
Patriot 29, Stafford 28
Forest Park 45, Osbourn Park 0
North Stafford 56, Osbourn 26

I dropped by the Annadale Mclean Game for a while. Annandale led 10-0 at the half. They got the first TD of the second half. McLean Answered, to make the score 16-6 early in the third quarter. Annandale then drove to make it 23-6. On McLean's next possession, they fumbled, and Annandale returned it for a TD, score 29-6. I left after that. From the box score, it looks like Annandale had another fumble return for a TD, and a kickoff return for a TD. I missed Mclean's last two TDs. It looks like those were in the 4th quarter, and I wonder if they were against Annandale's second team defense.

I wonder if that Mt. Vernon/W-L score (which I got from the Post) is correct. To me, that qualifies as an upset. I knew that W-L lost a lot from last year's team, but I saw them scrimmage Annandale, and, to me, they looked like the better team in that scrimmage. W-L did look like they would have depth issues, but they also looked like they had good team speed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 11:32AM

NR fan Wrote:
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> In case you missed it (or were too busy trolling
> each other), HS football kicked off last night.
> There were seven games played last night in Region
> 6A.
>
> Scores:
>
> Annandale 49, McLean 22
> Mt. Vernon 44, Washington-Lee 28
> Battlefield
> Woodbridge 35, Stonewall Jackson 28
> Patriot 29, Stafford 28
> Forest Park 45, Osbourn Park 0
> North Stafford 56, Osbourn 26
>
> I dropped by the Annadale Mclean Game for a while.
> Annandale led 10-0 at the half. They got the
> first TD of the second half. McLean Answered, to
> make the score 16-6 early in the third quarter.
> Annandale then drove to make it 23-6. On McLean's
> next possession, they fumbled, and Annandale
> returned it for a TD, score 29-6. I left after
> that. From the box score, it looks like Annandale
> had another fumble return for a TD, and a kickoff
> return for a TD. I missed Mclean's last two TDs.
> It looks like those were in the 4th quarter, and I
> wonder if they were against Annandale's second
> team defense.
>
> I wonder if that Mt. Vernon/W-L score (which I got
> from the Post) is correct. To me, that qualifies
> as an upset. I knew that W-L lost a lot from last
> year's team, but I saw them scrimmage Annandale,
> and, to me, they looked like the better team in
> that scrimmage. W-L did look like they would have
> depth issues, but they also looked like they had
> good team speed.


Forgot to complete the Battlefield score. Battlefield 29, Hylton 23

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: August 27, 2016 12:12PM

Of course Westfield does not kick off until next week so the season really has not started.....just saying to keep it real


Winning

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: JA'mario Davis ()
Date: August 27, 2016 12:23PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> Of course Westfield does not kick off until next
> week so the season really has not started.....just
> saying to keep it real
>
>
> Winning


Watch out for Ja'mario Davis at DE looks like he just committed to Penn St.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: EFF WESTFIELD ()
Date: August 27, 2016 12:29PM

Would all of you cum queers stop obsessing over Westfield, it is damn aggravating.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 01:29PM

No, EFF you! Everyone knows that football around here starts and ends with Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: EFF WESTFIELD ()
Date: August 27, 2016 01:49PM

you're a sick puppie

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Finally arsenal ()
Date: August 27, 2016 01:57PM

Arsenal's season sprung into life as they recorded their first Premier League win of the season with a 3-1 victory at Watford.

Having lost at home to Liverpool and drawn 0-0 at champions Leicester, Arsene Wenger saw his side dominate the first half at Vicarage Road, as an early Santi Cazorla penalty was added to by Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil.

Watford, still looking for a win under Walter Mazzarri, looked better after the break as club-record signing Roberto Pereyra came off the bench to grab a consolation.

The Gunners, who are likely to add defender Shkodran Mustafi and forward Lucas Perez to their ranks in the coming days, were ahead in the ninth minute after Nordin Amrabat crashed into the back of Sanchez and, after a delay, referee Kevin Friend pointed to the spot.

Where Theo Walcott had failed on the opening day, Cazorla made no mistake, stroking his penalty down the middle as Heurelho Gomes dived to his left.

Walcott came close to adding a second as he latched onto Cazorla's low cross but Gomes was on hand to save with his feet.

And Watford were almost level moments later as Amrabat skipped past Nacho Monreal before his cross was turned towards his own goalkeeper by Laurent Koscielny, but Petr Cech shown fine reactions to push the ball clear.

The hosts were starting to create more and defender Christian Kabasele almost marked his Premier League debut with a goal but could only glance Etienne Capoue's corner wide of the post.

Sanchez was denied by a smart Gomes save at his near post as the game opened up but the all-important second goal would come Arsenal's way courtesy of a contentious throw-in decision.

Amrabat appeared to have won Watford a throw-in deep in Arsenal territory only for the decision to go the way of the visitors.

Arsenal burst up-field through Sanchez, who then scuffed home Walcott's cross, with goal-line technology confirming he had doubled the Gunners' lead.

Walcott was impressing from the right flank and only another great save from Gomes prevented the England man driving Arsenal further ahead - but it was only a short respite.

From the next attack, Sanchez delivered an inch-perfect cross which has headed home by Ozil, enjoying a busy return to the side having been given an extended rest following the European Championship.

Mazzarri responded by introducing Pereyra at the interval and he marked his debut with a well-taken goal 10 minutes into the second half, stealing in ahead of the impressive Granit Xhaka to bend a strike past Cech and reduce the arrears.

Arsenal were still looking dangerous in attack but Watford were much more potent now, Cech forced into a smart double-save to deny Jose Holebas and Odion Ighalo before the latter saw an acrobatic overhead kick fly inches over the crossbar.

That was as close as the hosts came to getting a foothold in the contest and it was Arsenal left celebrating a first three-point haul of the campaign.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:00PM

/757\ Wrote:
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> My stiffie is a little less stiff this morning
> since my best 757 dawgs the Oscar Smith Tigers got
> out cheated by DeMatha. Oh woe is me, Ocean Lakes
> all cheated out and everyone moved to cheat
> somewhere else, and now Oscar Smith not playing
> according to what the cheaters thought they
> might.
>
> I will stare at pics of Trump's long flowing
> yellow locks and try to arrive at my stiffie again
> but I want everyone to remember that I have a
> small penis.

Juvenile Troll, welcome back.... You obviously STILL do not understand anything about Football. I am a FAN which is F A N A T I C A L for short.... When our team loses, we are still FANS... We understand that without failure or the fear of it, we and our team cannot grow. That's why every year we schedule the heavily recruited National Power house teams! Without the challenges of reaching for the sky high dreams, we become victims of our successes and allow our competitors to get closer than is comfortable!

You ridicule our WINNING is everything attitude but you just don't understand that the yearn for excellence is everything! Without that yearning we die a little every day until we become YOU!! Bitter, jealous and lost with no purpose in the world other than to troll around on the internet & attempt to change the world toward your unmotivated, less than mediocre life. Winning and the pursuit of Winning will never allow that to happen! I know the kids that are part of their teams are learning these AMERICAN values & that gives me confidence in our country!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:04PM

With a backfield burst, Woodbridge gets past Stonewall Jackson
By Sam Tabachnik August 27 at 1:06 AM

Senior Ousmane Barry didn’t win the quarterback competition coming out of camp, and didn’t get a ton of reps in practice leading up to Woodbridge’s season opener against Stonewall Jackson.

But after starter Antevious Jackson limped off the field with an medial collateral ligament injury in the first half, Barry took control of a sputtering offense and led the Vikings to a thrilling 35-28 road victory over the Raiders in Manassas.

“I was ready, but I still had the jitters,” Barry said about coming off the bench. “But my coaches told me to calm down at halftime and my players were behind me.”

Barry made his biggest impact on the ground, rushing 15 times for 37 yards and a touchdown. He completed only one of his eight passes, but it went for 67 yards and a score to running back Caleb Grant.

Woodbridge rushed for only 26 yards in the first half, the line constantly getting pushed back into Jackson’s face. With Barry under center, the Vikings put up 133 yards rushing and started to wear down the Raiders’ defensive front.

“We let Ousmane establish the run game and he really got us cracking,” Woodbridge Coach Gary Wortham said.

After a first half marked by penalties, negative rushing totals and few first downs, both teams were able to get their offenses moving in the second half.

For Woodbridge, it was a dynamic combination of speedy running backs that had Stonewall defenders grasping for air — and jerseys.

With the Vikings leading 14-8 in the third quarter, sophomore Taylor Harris burst through the line for a 34-yard touchdown.

The Raiders answered with a 10-yard scoring run from Marcus Haughton, cutting the lead to 22-16.


The teams traded scores midway through the fourth quarter and Woodbridge clung to its six-point advantage with just more than six minutes remaining.

That’s when Grant, a 5-foot-7 junior in his first year of varsity football, took over.

Facing fourth-and-three from the Stonewall 41-yard line, Barry tossed a swing pass to the diminutive tailback, and Grant raced down the sideline for the game-clinching touchdown.

Grant finished with 10 carries for 75 yards and a touchdown. He also added two catches for 77 yards and a score.

Between Grant and Harris, the Vikings have an emerging one-two punch in the backfield.

“I ran track with Taylor Harris — he’s a little faster,” Grant said. “But we all got some jets.”

Stonewall was led by senior quarterback Devante Smith’s 23 rushes for 36 yards and a touchdown. The Virginia Tech commit also threw for 84 yards, including a 60-yard touchdown to Cameron Brown on his first throw of the season.

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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:07PM

Battlefield overcomes sloppy play to outlast Hylton in triple-overtime

Battlefield's offense lines up against host Hylton in a season-opening matchup of Prince William County powers. (Nick Eilerson/The Washington Post)
By Nick Eilerson August 26 at 11:50 PM

When Battlefield running back Chris Ferrill lunged across the goal line from five yards out, giving his team a wild 29-23 victory in the third overtime against Hylton on Friday night, he ran toward his sideline, closed his eyes and stopped to regain his breath. A three-hour slop-fest marked by 31 penalties and endless stoppages was finally over.

“Relief,” Ferrill said a few minutes later. “Thank God. Just finally.”

Ferrill’s winning score capped a season opener that looked more like a scrimmage than a showdown between the two powerhouses in Prince William County. The No. 15 Bobcats were a mere shadow of the clinical unit that pasted Hylton 28-0 in last year’s opener, drawing numerous penalties and calling several timeouts just to get lined up properly.

But Battlefield prevailed, absorbing a gut punch late in the fourth quarter before capitalizing on a missed Hylton field goal in the third overtime session. Three plays after a 47-yard heave to Deshun Mickens, Hylton quarterback Brandon Benson muscled his way into the end zone from two yards out to tie the game, 13-13, with 40 seconds left in regulation.

Battlefield hangs on to beat Hylton in triple overtime 29-23
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The Bobcats use tough defense and downhill running to outlast the Bulldogs in triple overtime.

Both teams traded touchdowns in the first overtime session before Battlefield place kicker Ryan Feehan converted a 30-yard field goal — his third in three attempts on the night — to start the second session. Joshua Thomas responded with a 25-yard field goal, but he missed his next one wide left to set up Ferrill’s winning touchdown.

The first two-and-a-half hours of Hylton’s 2016 season was an unsightly display of punts, fumbles, injuries, self-inflicted blunders and yellow flags. Even when the Bulldogs caught an apparent break with a long second-half punt return, Coach Tony Lilly could only bellow, “We’re just killing ourselves!” Mickens’s return down the sideline had been negated by a block-in-the-back penalty.

Hylton’s wild night is best summed up by its first-half possession sequence: punt, punt, punt, Ricky Slade 98-yard touchdown run, fumble, punt. Slade, a standout tailback, provided the one highlight, taking a handoff in one end zone and racing all the way to the other for the score. Hylton managed only 22 more yards the rest of the half.

Slade shook off a knee injury that had hampered him all summer and started at tailback and defensive back. The Washington area’s most highly recruited player in the class of 2018 was mostly quiet, finishing with 115 rushing yards on six carries and two fumbles. Slade’s long touchdown midway through the second quarter provided the Bulldogs’ first points of the season, but he cramped up after a third-quarter punt return and did not return.

When the furor fizzled and exhaustion set in around Battlefield’s post-game huddle, Coach Jared Van Acker loudly commended his team for never stopping, for persevering through an ugly performance. But Battlefield nose guard and Penn State commit Brailyn Franklin, who was mostly kept in check despite lining up all over the field, stepped in with a message that resonated even more.

“Never let that happen again!” he exhorted. “That’s way too close! That’s not okay.”

Still, the Bobcats could take solace in a gritty win in perhaps their most difficult matchup of the regular season.

“We came together as brothers and we did what we had to do,” Ferrill said.

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Posted by: SEMENYA ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:08PM

What about the Olympics?

Global Olympic gold medals per capita are at their lowest point since the first modern Olympics in 1896.

There are 306 events at the Olympics this summer, with one gold medal per event.1
There are more than 7.3 billion people worldwide. That’s fewer than 42 events for every billion people, and that ratio has been declining since the 2000 Sydney Games, when the Olympics grew to 300 events, up 11 percent from 1996 and 48 percent higher than in 1980.

In 2002, an International Olympic Committee report warned that the games were growing too big. “Today, the Olympic Movement must contend with the reality that more sports want to participate in the Olympic Games, more athletes want to compete in the Olympic Games, more people want to attend the Olympic Games, and more media want to cover the Olympic Games,” the report said. As a result, the cost of hosting the games was increasing and some countries were being left out of the running in bids to serve as host, according to the report.

The IOC has heeded the report’s warning and pressed pause on the Summer Olympics’ rapid growth rate.

Though events per capita were much higher in the first half of the 20th century, everything that surrounded those events has grown, including the number of security forces and members of the media. Also, many more athletes today compete per event, from far more countries, than did then. The number of events has not quite doubled since 1920, but the number of participating athletes is roughly four times higher today and the number of participating countries is about seven times higher.

The decrease in events per capita has meant more athletes are competing for a chance to win roughly the same number of medals. It also has meant that sports not yet in the Olympics have had a hard time breaking into the games, and when they have, it has usually come at the expense of others, such as baseball and softball. That will change in Tokyo, though, as yet another new Olympic philosophy on growth will bring five new sports into the fold.


LET HER RUN:

The Olympic stadium was quiet on Wednesday morning, and spectators in the sparsely filled stands seemed to pay little notice to South African runner Caster Semenya as she cruised to an easy win in her first-round heat of the 800 meters. But on Saturday evening, when Semenya will contest the 800-meter final, she’ll have the world’s eyes on her. “There is no more certain gold medal in the Rio Olympics than Semenya,” wrote Ross Tucker, an exercise scientist in South Africa, on his blog, The Science of Sport. “She could trip and fall, anywhere in the first lap, lose 20m, and still win the race.”

If she does indeed dominate, some sports fans will be cheering Semenya, while others will be less inclined to celebrate, believing that she has an unfair advantage over her rivals. Semenya made headlines in 2009 amid rumors that track’s governing body, the International Association of Athletics Federations, had required her to undergo tests to confirm that she was female. Media accounts have reported that she has hyperandrogenism, a condition that causes higher-than-average testosterone levels — an allegation that neither Semenya nor the IAAF has publicly confirmed.

Semenya’s case is the latest saga in sport’s checkered history of sex testing, a task that is purportedly aimed at creating an even playing field but — as I’ve discussed previously — raises serious questions about how athletics organizations treat women. Her muscular build, deep voice and remarkable results had raised suspicions among some of Semenya’s rivals about whether she was really a woman. “Just look at her,” said Mariya Savinova, a Russian runner now tangled in her country’s doping scandal.

Savinova’s comment highlights what’s wrong with making competitors in women’s events prove that they’re women: It encourages people to police who looks “feminine enough” and sanctions discriminatory behavior that can have life-threatening consequences. Indian middle-distance runner Santhi Soundarajan attempted suicide after failing a gender test in 2007 and being shunned by her community.

Even if you think sex testing is necessary to ensure that women’s athletics are fair, the rules would need to be enforced uniformly. Testimony presented at a hearing on the IAAF’s sex testing procedures last year showed that “to date, [the testosterone limit] has only been used against women from developing countries” and that the rules created “an inconsistent and unfair patchwork of compliance by different countries around the world.” It’s notable that the women who’ve made the news for being scrutinized under the testosterone rule have been people of color.

Sport has a long history of humiliating women deemed “too masculine.” To ensure that men were not masquerading as women in order to compete and win at women’s sports, competitors were subjected to sex tests such as nude body inspections and chromosome testing. Eventually officials realized that these tests couldn’t definitively distinguish between male and female competitors, because sex is not a binary trait but exists along a continuum. For instance, people with androgen insensitivity syndrome are born with XY chromosomes but develop female anatomy, because their bodies don’t respond typically to testosterone. Others are born with female genitalia but have male sex anatomy internally. These are just two examples of the wide range of variations found across the spectrum.

After an especially shameful 1980s episode in which Spanish hurdler María José Martínez-Patiño was publicly shunned and outed as having androgen insensitivity syndrome, the blanket tests were dropped, and instead women deemed suspicious could be called in for testing. This is what happened to Semenya. The invasion of privacy and testing she endured created a push for a less ostracizing way to ensure that athletes vying in women’s competitions were women, and in 2011 the IAAF settled on a new approach, which the International Olympic Committee also adopted in 2012.

Rather than allow inspections of women’s bodies, the new rule set an upper limit on testosterone. Women could compete only if their testosterone levels were below 10 nanomoles per liter — a cutoff devised by sampling woman athletes with polycystic ovary syndrome (a condition associated with elevated testosterone levels) and adding five standard deviations to it. Tucker wrote on his blog that this limit is “threefold higher than a level that applies to 99 in 100 women participants.”

The argument for testosterone testing says that we divide sport into men’s and women’s categories because men have a practically unconquerable natural advantage over women. World records for men’s track and field and road running events are an average of 12.6 percent faster than the equivalent women’s events, and we give women their own class, akin to a weight class in combat sports, so they can have a chance to excel.

The argument against testing is that the competitive advantage that men have over women arises from biological factors linked to sex, but sex is a biological trait without hard and fast borders. And that we can pretend that we divide competition by sex, but what we’re really doing is separating athletes by gender, which is an identity that has a social and cultural context as well, and those contexts may confer distinct advantages and disadvantages, too. Under this system, there’s an obligation to recognize Semenya under the gender identity that she has inhabited since birth, and to do so without subjecting her to invasive and humiliating inspections or tests. Her identity should not be up to strangers to decide.

The debate over whether hormone testing is fair doesn’t have a scientific answer, only science-informed ones. There’s pretty good evidence that testosterone, a muscle-building hormone that men typically produce in greater quantities than women, is a performance-enhancing substance — that’s why it’s so popular among dopers. Joanna Harper, an athlete, scientist and transgender woman, found that her running performance dropped within weeks of starting therapy to reduce her testosterone levels, and she has documented similar changes in other male-to-female transgender runners. Insofar as you can pin the male advantage to a single factor, testosterone is it.

Science shows that testosterone gives athletes an advantage, but it can’t tell us how much advantage is too much or how to categorize athletes who are women by gender but also have male sex traits — those are philosophical questions, not scientific ones. But it’s hard not to see sexism in the answers that the IAAF is providing. As espnW columnist Kate Fagan tweeted recently, “I shall steal line from someone on Twitter: I know Semenya is a woman because people are trying to control her body.” Women with high testosterone levels have been pressured to undergo life-changing surgery and medical interventions in exchange for the right to compete.

The IAAF’s testosterone limit is necessarily arbitrary, and when Indian sprinter Dutee Chand faced scrutiny and demands to undergo treatment to reduce her testosterone levels, she pushed back. The medical interventions would be invasive, would be potentially irreversible and would come with side effects that could “interfere with the way my body has worked my whole life,” she wrote in a letter to the secretary general of the Athletics Federation of India, asking to have her eligibility reinstated. “I was born a woman, reared up as a woman, I identify as a woman and I believe I should be allowed to compete with other women, many of whom are either taller than me or come from more privileged backgrounds, things that most certainly give them an edge over me.”

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Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:09PM

Ben Maffe plays big for Briar Woods in a season-opening shutout of Tuscarora

Briar Woods takes the field ahead of its season opener against Tuscarora in Ashburn. (Callie Caplan/For The Washington Post)
By Eric Goldwein August 26 at 11:09 PM

Ben Maffe stood on the sideline as the final seconds ticked off the first-half clock, then turned toward the Briar Woods student section and let out a well-earned, “Let’s go!”

Already the senior had made a full game’s worth of plays — a timely fourth-down conversion, long receptions and touchdowns — as Briar Woods took control against Tuscarora in the first half en route to a 21-0 victory Friday in Ashburn. It was a fitting way to send the Falcons into the locker room.

“It’s huge. We only sang that [victory] song one time last year,” Maffe said later after the team’s post-game revelry. “To get this in the beginning of the season against a team that beat us last year, last-minute felt amazing.”


The Falcons, two seasons removed from a run of four consecutive state title game appearances, are coming off a 3-8 season that began with a 22-16 loss to their Conference 14 rivals. They were also without longtime Coach Charlie Pierce, whose father passed away last weekend.

Maffe, a 6-foot-3, 220-pound wide receiver and safety and a Marshall recruit, set the tone early by making the most of his opportunities on offense. On the opening play of the second quarter — his first carry — Maffe muscled through the Tuscarora defense for a fourth-down conversion. On the next play, he ran toward the outside and extended his arms over the pylon for a seven-yard touchdown, giving the Falcons (1-0, 1-0 Va. Conference 14) a 7-0 lead.

“Size and speed wise, we’ve been running that in practice for four weeks, ever since we started. We know in that situation we need to get the first down,” Maffe said. “We have 800 pounds on that side of the ball, we just need to carry on and get that first down every time”

On the ensuing offensive possession, Briar Woods ran an end-around with Jake Kleifges firing a 47-yard pass to Maffe for the first down. Maffe was at it again three plays later, catching a short pass from quarterback Skyler Springs, breaking two tackles and marching into the end zone to give the Falcons a 14-0 halftime margin.

That was more than enough cushion for the Briar Woods defense. Maffe made a timely pass deflection to stifle a Tuscarora drive earlier in the third quarter and soon after, there were fireworks going off in the distance, as if the Falcons’ celebration had already begun.

But that wasn’t the exclamation point. Later in the third quarter, with Springs on the sidelines, backup quarterback Jalen Thomas ran a play-action fake, rolling out of the pocket and into the end zone for a five-yard touchdown.

Jaylon Lundy led the Huskies (0-1, 0-1) with 64 rushing yards but failed to reach the red zone until the fourth quarter, and that drive resulted in a turnover on downs.

Junior running back Julian Posas (60 rushing yards) helped the Falcons run down the fourth-quarter clock and complete the shutout, handing Tuscarora its first regular-season defeat since 2013.

After the final whistle, the Briar Woods players sang along to the school song, then met near the end zone, where they were reminded by coaches this was just one win. But it was a big one, Springs said.

“This is like our Super Bowl,” Springs said. “We did this for Coach Pierce, and it was just memorable.”

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:11PM

Oh and I forgot to say that my view of American values is that rampant cheating to assist the winning process is a good thing. That is why I like Trump - it is all about winning even if you have to cheat to win. It is winning baby. Oscar Smith, O Lakes, other 757 teams aligned with that mentality long ago - that is why I admire them greatly.

Yet still my penis is still small even though I have been gazing constantly at those yellow locks of luscious hair.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:24PM

Nationally ranked DeMatha too much for Oscar Smith

By Larry Rubama
The Virginian-Pilot
13 hrs ago

CHESAPEAKE

The Bill Dee era didn’t begin quite like he wanted on Friday as Oscar Smith lost 42-7 to nationally ranked DeMatha Catholic (Md.) on a hot, humid night.

Dee replaced longtime Tigers coach Richard Morgan, who left for Marietta (Ga.) High, and expected better execution from his team.

“We just made too many mistakes,” he said. “We got to do a better job. You can’t make those mistakes and expect to be a winning football team.”

The Tigers, ranked No. 2 in South Hampton Roads, had the momentum early following a DeMatha fumble. They moved the ball inside the Stags’ 20 but missed a field goal.

DeMatha, ranked in five national preseason polls, including No. 7 by PrepNation and No. 9 by USA Today, made the Tigers pay when quarterback Beau English hit Dominic Lyles on a 39-yard touchdown pass for a 7-0 lead.

DeMatha added another score in the second quarter on running back Khory Spruill’s 9-yard touchdown run for a 14-0 lead.

English, who committed to Air Force, made it 21-0 on a strange 41-yard touchdown run. When the ball was snapped, a whistle was heard by several players and many stopped – but not English.

“Everybody was a little confused and I just took advantage of it,” said English, who finished 11-of-11 passing for 167 yards and rushed for 63 yards and two touchdowns.

DeMatha’s last two touchdowns were the benefit of a short field because of two bad Oscar Smith punts, one for 18 yards and another for 13.

Oscar Smith scored just before halftime on Jahmeek Jones’ 1-yard TD run.

The Tigers had a chance to cut the deficit to begin the third quarter when they drove to the Stags’ 8. But they couldn’t capitalize and DeMatha marched 92 yards for another score capped by English’s 2-yard touchdown run.

“We came out in the second and had a good chance and then wheels fell off,” Dee said. “We made too many mistakes.”

The Tigers played without star receiver Larry Chapel. Last season he was named first-team All-Tidewater when he finished with 1,620 yards and 85 receptions, both No. 2 on the school’s single-season list.

Asked about Chapel, who didn’t dress out and didn’t appear to be hurt, Dee said “no comment.”

Dee praised quarterback Shon Mitchell, who showed composure under pressure, completing 24 of 37 passes for 238 yards.

The Tigers did earn the respect of DeMatha players.

“We knew that Oscar Smith is a great team and they’re a powerhouse in Virginia,” English said. “And they definitely showed it tonight. I just think we came out and executed like we knew we could. But my hats off to them because they played hard all game.”
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: V4FNW ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:29PM

NR fan Wrote:
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> I wonder if that Mt. Vernon/W-L score (which I got
> from the Post) is correct. To me, that qualifies
> as an upset. I knew that W-L lost a lot from last
> year's team, but I saw them scrimmage Annandale,
> and, to me, they looked like the better team in
> that scrimmage. W-L did look like they would have
> depth issues, but they also looked like they had
> good team speed.

Mount Vernon was 2-18 the last two seasons so that is a surprising win. I don't know a thing about W-L team for this year but I would not have expected that. Someone told me Mt.Vernon has a new coach this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: August 27, 2016 02:33PM

Note this comment filthy troll:

The Tigers played without star receiver Larry Chapel. Last season he was named first-team All-Tidewater when he finished with 1,620 yards and 85 receptions, both No. 2 on the school’s single-season list.

Asked about Chapel, who didn’t dress out and didn’t appear to be hurt, Dee said “no comment.”


Oscar Smith runs a straight program. If you run afoul of team rules or school regulations - you don't play. Just like what happened at Westfield last year. Grow up you pathetic jealous troll.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: August 27, 2016 03:20PM

Just to clarify Oscar Smith runs a straight program but not a clean program. We know the difference in 757, just look at Ocean Lakes.......ha ha ha ha

And like my friend /757\ - I also have a small penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 04:12PM

I went to Centreville vs. West Springfield scrimmage Thursday. Pleasantly surprised to see Centreville handle them fairly easily - I think it was about 21 or 28-6 when I left in second half. Not exactly the AJ Turner days but I do see some hope for a reasonably competitive team. Thoughts?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 04:20PM

Centreville, Robinson, Lake Braddock, South County, others - who cares?

It is all about Bulldog Nation.

Winning.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 04:23PM

Anyone else that is a bit more rational want to comment?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: August 27, 2016 04:39PM

I am perfectly rational, Westfield is the only rational choice.

WiNnInG

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballobserver2 ()
Date: August 27, 2016 05:15PM

Cville Fan Wrote:
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> I went to Centreville vs. West Springfield
> scrimmage Thursday. Pleasantly surprised to see
> Centreville handle them fairly easily - I think it
> was about 21 or 28-6 when I left in second half.
> Not exactly the AJ Turner days but I do see some
> hope for a reasonably competitive team. Thoughts?

CEN should definitely be better than last year. With Siler, Garrett and Culver coming back the offense will be fine. Defense will be better also. And they have the advantage that their two Loudoun opponents - Tuscarora and Broad Run - are both down from last year. I expect CEN will win both of those games exacting some measure of revenge. I predict a 7-3 season at least and 1-2 playoff wins. If they can gel real well as a team - the regional semis or even finals are not totally out of the question. CEN has good coaching.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ThuHd ()
Date: August 27, 2016 07:46PM

NR fan Wrote:
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> Forgot to complete the Battlefield score.
> Battlefield 29, Hylton 23


Great highlights from the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jXTPvj4fmk

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Be football ()
Date: August 27, 2016 08:36PM

The MV game was very surprising. The game was actually not as close as the score. It was 44-20 at the end of the 3rd and the MV coach mass subbed. The new coach has obviously made a huge impact quick. I don't know if they can make the playoffs because their conference is so tough but the new coach seems to have revived that program a little.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ThuHd ()
Date: August 27, 2016 09:36PM

Highlights from the Briar Woods win over Tusky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvQBDCM5cK8

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Herndon this year ()
Date: August 28, 2016 02:37PM

I think this is Herndon's year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: My Take on Herndon ()
Date: August 28, 2016 10:30PM

Herndon as a city has some awesome players, too bad they go to South Lakes, Oakton and Westfield and not actually Herndon. The school just has an unfavorable boundary line.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Take it all from Herndon ()
Date: August 29, 2016 08:50AM

Looks like Herndon could put a thumping on Oscar Smith this year, they should have taken Dematha's Spot in Week 1. Roll Hornets!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: El Kun ()
Date: August 29, 2016 11:03AM

Sergio Aguero has been ruled out of Argentina's World Cup qualifiers against Uruguay and Venezuela through injury.

The Argentine FA (AFA) announced that Aguero had sustained a calf problem during Manchester City's 3-1 victory over West Ham United on Sunday and added: "For this reason he will not be present for this double round of qualifiers with the national team."

The 28-year-old was substituted in the 88th minute at the Etihad Stadium.

Argentina, currently third in the CONMEBOL qualification group, host Uruguay on Sept. 2 before facing Venezuela away on Sept. 7.

Aguero could also face a domestic ban if the English FA decides to pursue retrospective action after an apparent elbow on West Ham defender Winston Reid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 29, 2016 01:21PM

El Kun.... common, mannnn. High school football NOT pro-Soccer. Nobody cares about that crap. When only 12 parents watch HS Soccer, how do you think Pro Soccer is gonna be followed on a totally different board? Wonder why no one adds to your posting? That's because YOU ARE LOST or delusional!!



Judging from pre-season performance, South County is game ready

by Jim McGrath, recruitNoVA

Team: South County (Lorton, VA)
Classification/Conference – 6A/7
2015 Record – 13-1 (lost 40-8 to Westfield in 6A North Region final of state playoffs)
Head Coach – Gerry Pannoni
Mascot – Stallions (Forest Green, Silver, Navy)

From the looks of their second scrimmage, against Western Branch, the Stallions are running on all cylinders. South County put forth a tremendous offensive and defensive effort last Friday, easily defeating the Bruins in Chesapeake by an unofficial tally of 44-0. Things are looking good for the Lorton team as they prepare for their Sept. 2 opener at Briar Woods.

Michael Salisbury earned some time at quarterback last year (57% completion rate, 508 passing yards, 4 TD’s), but now must assume the responsibility full-time. The position is tough as South County runs an up-tempo spread option offense that relies on its ability to run enough plays in succession to confuse and tire the defense. Salisbury (6-3, 196, Sr.) threw for two touchdowns in the Western Branch scrimmage, before handing over the reins to Jack McDaniel (6-2, 200, Sr.) in the second half. McDaniel added a third passing touchdown.

The Stallions strong suit comes in the form of a receiving trio that can light up the scoreboard, as long as Salisbury or McDaniel can find them. Salisbury will see most of the opportunities, but as Coach Gerry Pannoni says of McDaniel, “Jack would start on 90 percent of the teams in the area.”

Dillon Spalding is the marquee name of the group. Spalding (6-3, 205) is only a junior, but posted stellar numbers as a sophomore with 68 catches for 1,232 yards and 13 touchdowns. Spalding caught both of Salisbury’s TD passes (40 and 25 yards) in the last scrimmage, and his presence is formidable when he breaks across the middle of the field. His strength is hard to counter, and his speed is deceptive for a large pass catcher.

Nate Avery and Seth Dunn are not as well known as Spalding, but will also be featured receivers for South County this season. Avery (24 receptions, 353 yards, four touchdowns in 2015) scored a 65-yard touchdown on a deflected ball last Friday, while Dunn (6-1, 165, Jr.) would be the best receiver on many teams, according to Pannoni. The Stallions scored 550 points last year (39.3 ppg.) in 2015, and could match that total this year.

Defensive backs Veronta Jones and Garrett Reaves highlight the defensive unit. Jones (6-0, 175, SS, Sr.) intercepted a Western Branch pass toward the end of Friday’s scrimmage and returned the ball 97 yards for a score. Reaves (6-3, 215, Sr.) will see time at both strong safety and outside linebacker. The Stallions eight-man defensive front will aim to stuff opposing runners and quarterbacks before the ball can reach the secondary.

Pannoni is pleased with the size of this year’s team, calling it the largest he has had in his six years at the helm. He will find out how good this year’s squad is early in the season as the Stallions second game is at home against Westfield, the team that ousted South County from the playoffs in 2015 with a 40-8 shellacking in the 6A North finals.

Others to Watch: Solomon Simay (5-8, 170, RB, Sr.), Jaiquan Findley (5-8, 155, RB/WR, Sr.), Cameron Lucas (6-7, 295, G/T, Sr.), Keoni Colbert (6-1, 300, T, Jr.), Brinson Gabe (6-4, 265, G/T, Jr.), Mendes Ryan (6-1, 210, LB, Sr.), Ben Cole (5-11, 250, G/C, Jr.), Tyler Santos (5-10, 250, DT/NG, Sr.).

– Jim McGrath

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 29, 2016 01:24PM

Class of 2017 Commitments

NOVA:
Luiji Vilain – Michigan
Yetur Matos – Penn State
Tyjuan Garbutt – Viginia Tech
Dylan Rivers – Penn State
Cam Spence – Maryland
Damani Neal – Duke
Lamont Atkins – UVA
Tommy Christ – UVA
Andrew Park – Maryland
Pierce Banbury – Navy
PK Kier – UVA

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Catsmeow ()
Date: August 29, 2016 05:43PM

Westfield appears very thin this year. Their defense should be good as they have solid smart LBs, however the real problem will be with their coaching. Evertt, arguable their best coach and previous Defensive Coordinator, left to coach college. I am not sure the defensive line and secondary will have the size or in game coaching to compete with the NOVA Elite this year. The offense will be OK as they bring back Eckert who was underated last year and they bring back their QB. However, he is one red cup away, from being expelled from FCPS. He has had two strikes and a third will be it. Not sure what their running game will be like but I heard they have some solid sophmores that were impressive last year. After winning the state title their motivation might not be there this year. I think losing their DC will be huge and they will be an average team with a couple key injuries. This maybe the year for the Rams!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: August 29, 2016 06:49PM

Westfield appears very thin this year. Their defense should be good as they have solid smart LBs, however the real problem will be with their coaching. Evertt, arguable their best coach and previous Defensive Coordinator, left to coach college. I am not sure the defensive line and secondary will have the size or in game coaching to compete with the NOVA Elite this year. The offense will be OK as they bring back Eckert who was underated last year and they bring back their QB. However, he is one red cup away, from being expelled from FCPS. He has had two strikes and a third will be it. Not sure what their running game will be like but I heard they have some solid sophmores that were impressive last year. After winning the state title their motivation might not be there this year. I think losing their DC will be huge and they will be an average team with a couple key injuries. This maybe the year for the Rams!

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Westfield's offense will most probably need to win games this year, their defense will not be as stout as last year. They have a good front 4, 1 quality LB, the other LB's are small and/or light. Starting a sophomore at OLB, not big or adept at tackling. The secondary is going to have a tough time against quality passing teams. One starting CB is extremely small and undersized, as is one of the starting safeties. The offense has some weapons, Cockrill, Eckert, Frimpong, and Asante. Line is pretty big too though they had two get injured last week in the Quince Orchard scrimmage. The primary problem on offense for Westfield will be keeping their starting QB out of trouble. Rumor is that he was making the red cup circuit all summer so it might only be a matter of time till he gets busted. If so that would be a huge blow, his back up is a freshman that so far has shown he really has no business being on varsity. He played so poorly that WF put in the kid who is the 3rd string RB last week against QO to play QB. As you stated, the big loss is Everett, he was a mastermind on defense but from what I've been told ran the practices. he might be the biggest loss from last years team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: /757\ ()
Date: August 29, 2016 08:08PM

It sounds like Westfield could be in trouble when they meet So. County. During the Western Branch Scrimmage, their Offense was running on all cylinders, mixing the run with their pass attack efficiently. Western Branch has a really good run game & they had early success against So. County but once they figured out Western Branch had NO passing game, they brought an extra body into the box & shut down the run game too!

The result was 44-0 and it looked much worse than that!

Additionally, it sounds like other schools have raised their game to give Westfield fits this year. I predicted Westfield will NOT represent the North Region in December in Hampton. However, USA Today this has them ranked in the regional polls. That could change after the So, County game!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Doesn't Matter At All ()
Date: August 29, 2016 08:35PM

Even if SOCO wins, it doesn't mean they are better, everybody knows that everything changes starting week 11. And SOCO and LB know that better than everybody. It's a totally different game in the playoffs. Yes Westfields secondary is smaller than normal but all the players are exceptionally skilled, they have one of the best front sevens in the state, and special teams will be special just like the last few years. The line is huge, and their offense should be the best that they've had in a long time. That being said there's no guarantee that Westfield will represent the Northern Region, as LB and SOCO will be really competitive, but there is no way that Robinson is in the same conversation as those three. It's a three team race in NOVA this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: August 29, 2016 09:45PM

Even if SOCO wins, it doesn't mean they are better, everybody knows that everything changes starting week 11. And SOCO and LB know that better than everybody. It's a totally different game in the playoffs. Yes Westfields secondary is smaller than normal but all the players are exceptionally skilled, they have one of the best front sevens in the state, and special teams will be special just like the last few years. The line is huge, and their offense should be the best that they've had in a long time. That being said there's no guarantee that Westfield will represent the Northern Region, as LB and SOCO will be really competitive, but there is no way that Robinson is in the same conversation as those three. It's a three team race in NOVA this year.

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For the most part you are correct, however, the Westfield secondary is not exceptionally skilled, maybe one player. Two of the 3 others are fast but weak and small. One of the safeties and one of the corners have been run over multiple times in each of their scrimmages. Westfield will have two of the best DE's in the state, 1 of the best LB's, and 1 better than average D-lineman. To state they have one of the best front sevens in the state is a true homer statement. And I'm a Westfield fan! Their offense should be good, I think they'll need to score more than years past to win games. Just my opinion....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: August 29, 2016 10:05PM

How is it a homer statement to say that they have one of the best front sevens if they have 3-4 high level players?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GVhp9 ()
Date: August 29, 2016 10:23PM

Fairfax County Football Games This Week

Thursday, September 1
Edison @ Hayfield
Fairfax @ Herndon
Langley @ West Potomac
Mount Vernon @ Stuart
W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
Washington-Lee @ Westfield

Friday, September 2
Annandale @ Centreville
Eastern @ Falls Church
John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
Lee @ Lake Braddock
Marshall @ South Lakes
Oakton @ Madison
South County @ Briar Woods
West Springfield @ Robinson

McLean has the week off.

I'd say the game of this week is West Springfield at Robinson.

Anyone have any upset picks?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What??? ()
Date: August 30, 2016 07:46AM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: WF Fan ()

Date: August 29, 2016 10:05PM


How is it a homer statement to say that they have one of the best front sevens if they have 3-4 high level players?

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Because they have 3 players in the front 7 that are above average players. One is playing FCS at the next level, 1 lacrosse, and the other nowhere as of yet. That's it, the statement originally made was "they have one of the best front sevens in the state". They do not, look, they have a good team, but so does everyone else, the defense is not as strong as it's been recently, it's still better than most. But I think when they play the likes of SOCO, Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Robinson they might struggle. Those games particularly the offense will need to step up and carry the load unlike in recent years past where the defense would.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: DU4yx ()
Date: August 30, 2016 08:01AM

Antoine Griezmannnn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> GEULF Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bulldog Booster Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GROUP A
> > >
> > > Paris Saint-Germain
> > > Arsenal
> > > FC Basel
> > > Ludogorets Razgrad
> > >
> > > GROUP B
> > >
> > > Benfica
> > > Napoli
> > > Dynamo Kiev
> > > Besiktas
> > >
> > > GROUP C
> > >
> > > Barcelona
> > > Manchester City
> > > Borussia Monchengladbach
> > > Celtic
> > >
> > > GROUP D
> > >
> > > Bayern Munich
> > > Atletico Madrid
> > > PSV Eindhoven
> > > Rostov
> > >
> > > GROUP E
> > >
> > > CSKA Moscow
> > > Bayer Leverkusen
> > > Tottenham Hotspur
> > > Monaco
> > >
> > > GROUP F
> > >
> > > Real Madrid
> > > Borussia Dortmund
> > > Sporting
> > > Legia Warsaw
> > >
> > > GROUP G
> > >
> > > Leicester City
> > > Porto
> > > Club Brugge
> > > FC Copenhagen
> > >
> > > GROUP H
> > >
> > > Juventus
> > > Sevilla
> > > Lyon
> > > Dinamo Zagreb
> > >
> > > GROUP STAGE MATCHDAYS
> > > September 13, 14
> > > September 27, 28
> > > October 18, 19
> > > November 1, 2
> > > November 22, 23
> > > December 6, 7
> >
> >
> > Group G is Fucking weak. Who do you guys have
> for
> > top scorer this year?
> >
> >
> >
> > Suarez?
> >
> > Greizmann?
> >
> > Messi?
> >
> > Ronaldo?
> >
> > Bale?
> >
> > Anyone outside la liga?
>
>
> I think Griezmann is set for another excellent
> season. Maybe even taking it up another level.


Atletico already struggling. Fuck these international breaks!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kewal Paudel ()
Date: August 30, 2016 08:04AM

As many as 1,184 players will be dropped from NFL rosters over the next eight days, and the massive reduction started on Saturday. Among the players waived were defensive tackle Darren Lake, wide receiver Jarvis Turner and cornerback Ryan White.

NFL teams can have as many as 90 players on their rosters now. But at 3 p.m. CDT Tuesday, the limit drops to 75. Teams must have their rosters at the regular-season maximum of 53 players by 3 p.m. Sept. 3.

Four of the teams that played their third preseason games on Thursday or Friday combined to release 42 players on Saturday.

The Atlanta Falcons waived White, a former Auburn cornerback. White had been with the Falcons only since Aug. 15, and he did not play in Atlanta's preseason loss to the Miami Dolphins on Thursday night. This marks the third straight preseason that White has been released by an NFL team. He went to training camp with the Green Bay Packers in 2014 and 2015.

Lake played at Sumter County High School in York before going to Alabama. He joined the San Francisco 49ers as an undrafted rookie in May. Lake made five tackles and forced a fumble in three preseason games with San Francisco.

A prep standout at Murphy in Mobile, Turner attended Washington's rookie minicamp in May on a tryout basis and signed with the Redskins on June 2. Turner played in two of Washington's three preseason games without catching a pass.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 9VYTG ()
Date: August 30, 2016 08:06AM

Colin Kaepernick is no child, just to be clear. He's 28 years old, a man by any measure. (Remember when some called 32-year-old Ryan Lochte a "kid" as a way of excusing his boorish, privileged behavior in Rio? Sorry, I digress.)

Relative to many of us, however, he's still a young man (nod to Tower of Power fans), so his actions over the last few days prompted me to the familiar Old Testament scripture that speaks of that glorious day when all of the animals of the Earth will be able to live together peacefully, without threat or fear—and in the midst of them, the children of the world will lie safely among them.

Most of us interpret the scripture as saying a child will actually lead us to some great place. But according to respected, long-time Pastor John A. MacArthur of the Grace Community Church in Los Angeles, that is not correct.

In his book, Theologically Speaking, he writes:

This passage is a discussion of the Day of the Lord. This is the day that Christians look forward to when Jesus Christ will remove the curse of sin from our world and restore peace to all of creation. As a result of this peace, wolf, lion, lamb, cobra, calf, bear, and children will all live in harmony. A child will be able to lead a lion (or a wolf, etc.) around without fear of harm. Let us stop using this phrase as if the Bible tells us that children will one day lead adults. It says nothing of the sort.

Well, with apologies to Pastor, MacArthur, let me this say this:

Kaepernick, a San Francisco 49ers quarterback, has indeed led us to a new place, and in so doing made many of us smarter than we were before he chose to sit rather than stand for "The Star-Spangled Banner" prior to an NFL preseason game last week and then, a few days later, proudly and eloquently share his reasons for doing so.

The core of his concern is the treatment of African-American youth by some elements of law enforcement and the perceived lack of accountability for their actions.

"This isn't new ground," he told reporters on Sunday evening. "There are things that have gone on in this country for years and years and have never been addressed, and they need to be."

"Police brutality," he said, when asked to be specific. "There's people being murdered unjustly and not being held accountable. People are being given paid leave for killing people. That's not right. That's not right by anyone's standards.
He spoke openly about the discussions his actions spawned among his teammates, saying some have said "I really respect you" for what he is doing.

He was asked if was doing this because he was personally oppressed, a question that naively suggests someone of his stature and economic means might be immune to mistreatment. (Not).

"There have been situations where I feel like I've been ill-treated, yes," he said. "This stand wasn't for me. This stand wasn't because I feel like I'm being put down in any kind of way. This is because I'm seeing things happen to people that don't have a voice, people that don't have a platform to talk and have their voices heard, and effect change. So I'm in the position where I can do that and I'm going to do that for people that can't."

He said he would continue to take his stand by sitting, at least for the foreseeable future.

"I'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed. To me this is something that has to change. When there's significant change and I feel like that flag represents what it's supposed to represent, this country is representing people the way that it's supposed to, I'll stand."

See the full transcript of Kaepernick's remarks here.

Of course his move ignited a social-media firestorm-what doesn't these days. Predictably, many critics blasted him for daring to sit during the anthem, much as folks went apoplectic when USA gymnast Gabby Douglas failed to place her hand over her heart during a gold medal ceremony at the Rio Olympics.

He also got the expected darts from within NFL circles, including a former teammate/roommate and Alex Boone, who has a brother in the Marines and used vulgarities to speak of Kaepernick's stance (without reaching out to him, of course, or acknowledging that the 49ers QB specifically elaborated that he had "great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country," adding: "They fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone".)

My reaction: good for him, for myriad reasons.

There appears to be a simmering movement among high-profile athletes—sparked in part by the NBA's Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade and others, who issued a call to action to their peers at the ESPY's earlier this summer—in many sports to utilize their platform to call attention to the racial injustices, violence in our inner cities and other issues that are tearing our nation apart right now.

Kaepernick answered the call, in his own way, and at great risk. He wasn't (and isn't) scared, and for that I applauded him.

Now, I credit him for doing something perhaps he did not intend to do—to make us pause, reflect and research the core truth about the song we now salute with pride yet with little to no thought.

This morning, as I walked my dog, I came across at story about the history of the anthem on my Facebook timeline that knocked me off my feet. Written by Josh Schwartz of Theintercept.com, it diligently details two truths about "The Star Spangled:"

First and foremost, the context of it being written in the midst of the War of 1812, a battle between America and the British waged largely over Canada (they occupied it, and we wanted it) and British support for Native Americans combating American settlers trying to drive them from their lands. Thousands of black American slaves escaped and, in some cases, joined the British forces against the Americans—which created a significant threat to the Southern economy.

Many of us know the SSB was a poem (titled "Defiance of Fort McHenry") written by Francis Scott Key, who was inspired by the site of the American flag still flying over Fort McHenry in Baltimore after it was bombarded by the British Navy. What most of don't know, and what was revealed in the article, are the words at the end of the third verse:

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Translation: The British couldn't save the slaves from the hell we have for them over here—o're the land of the free, etc, etc...

The article also told us a little bit about Key, who went on to become a prominent Maryland attorney and the U.S. Attorney for for the District of Columbia. Oh, and a slaveholder who used his skills to work both sides of the tainted, bloody coin—representing some slaves who sought their freedom, as well as masters seeking their runaways.

Later, while some considered him all but an abolitionist for his stance against slavery's cruelties (many considered him a "good" master." Lordy.), he also brought a grand-jury indictment against an anti-slavery publication and its printer, charging them with libel for daring to write: ""There is neither mercy nor justice for colored people in this district [of Columbia]"

I also did some research on my own and learned that "The Star-Spangled Banner"—after Key's poem was paired with John Stafford Smith's music—didn't become our anthem until 1931, 42 years after it was allowed to be used officially by the U.S. Navy and President Woodrow Wilson (by the way, one of our most racist Presidents ever).

So let's credit Colin Kaepernick for, intentionally or not, letting us know that—bottom line—we need a new national anthem.

The Star-Spangled Banner, like many of documents crafted by our forefathers and their descendants, is far from perfect. Those "sacred" documents did not recognize women and nonwhites as deserving of all the rights and privileges of American citizenship—a battle we are still, alas, fighting today.

We've edited and amended many of those documents.

The SSB needs to be scrapped as the song for which we all stand together—the lions, lambs and others among us—hold our heads high and salute with pride.

And it took a young man sitting down to show us so.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: novafootballfan ()
Date: August 30, 2016 09:44AM

steve2K had a nice 5 year run of picking games. too bad this forum has gone into the crapper. i can’t blame him for not coming back for a 6th season. no spread but I will pick winners.

Hayfield
Fairfax
West Potomac
Mount Vernon
W.T. Woodson
Westfield
Centreville
Falls Church
John Paul the Great
Lake Braddock
South Lakes
Oakton
South County
Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region fan ()
Date: August 30, 2016 12:09PM

My picks, which, of course, are worth what you paid for them:


GVhp9 Wrote:
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> Fairfax County Football Games This Week
>
> Thursday, September 1
> Edison @ Hayfield

Hayfield

> Fairfax @ Herndon

I'm not touching this one. If I had to put a betting line on it, I'd say Pick 'em, but way too many unknowns in this one for me to make a guess.

> Langley @ West Potomac

West Potomac

> Mount Vernon @ Stuart

Mt. Vernon. Mt. Vernon handled W-L convincingly. They may not be the usual doormat this year.

> W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly

I'll go with Woodson. Chantilly lost a lot. I saw Woodson scrimmage South Lakes, and they looked good. I think they'll be a force this year.

> Washington-Lee @ Westfield

Washington-Lee. There might be a running clock by the end of the third quarter.

>
> Friday, September 2
> Annandale @ Centreville

Centreville

> Eastern @ Falls Church

No clue

> John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson

JP

> Lee @ Lake Braddock

Lake Braddock. Also look for a running clock here.

> Marshall @ South Lakes

South Lakes, but not by as much as you might think.

> Oakton @ Madison

Oakton, though this would be runner up for game of the week.

> South County @ Briar Woods

South County

> West Springfield @ Robinson

Robinson

>
> McLean has the week off.
>
> I'd say the game of this week is West Springfield
> at Robinson.
>
> Anyone have any upset picks?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region fan ()
Date: August 30, 2016 12:11PM

novafootballfan Wrote:
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> steve2K had a nice 5 year run of picking games.
> too bad this forum has gone into the crapper. i
> can’t blame him for not coming back for a 6th
> season. no spread but I will pick winners.
>
> Hayfield
> Fairfax
> West Potomac
> Mount Vernon
> W.T. Woodson
> Westfield
> Centreville
> Falls Church
> John Paul the Great
> Lake Braddock
> South Lakes
> Oakton
> South County
> Robinson


Is it confirmed that Steve K2 isn't coming back? That would be hugely disappointing, but understandable, I guess.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Man ()
Date: August 30, 2016 12:30PM

Steve 2K moved South...he might chime in remotely though as this is Al Gores Internet! The Robinson West Springfield Game as well as The South County Briar Woods Games will be good early barometers for the Region as a whole. Don't see South County running away from Briar Woods like they did last year however they should get the win by 14, Robinson will grind West Springfields two-way lineman by the Third qtr. and Barring any Muskett Miracles should control the Clock and the Game. If Oakton wins by less than 28 points they need to drop football completely!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GONE TO HELL ()
Date: August 30, 2016 12:39PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Play Ball ()
Date: August 30, 2016 12:41PM

I'm sure he was sending that selfie to His Wife...? and Really He looks about as hard as South County thinks they are! What a Stallion!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve2K2 ()
Date: August 30, 2016 11:17PM

Edison @ Hayfield
Hayfield by 21

Fairfax @ Herndon
Fairfax by 13, new coach with great reputation

Langley @ West Potomac
West Potomac by 28, speed kills

Mount Vernon @ Stuart
My. Vernon 2-0... Who would have guessed that

W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
Tough call. Woodson is improved and chantilly is down. Chantilly still has more talent. Chantilly by 3.

Washington-Lee @ Westfield
Westfield by whatever they want

Annandale @ Centreville
Centreville by 28. Much improved team from a year ago. Maybe a dark horse

Eastern @ Falls Church
Falls Church, maybe??

John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
??

Lee @ Lake Braddock
Lake Braddock by whatever they want

Marshall @ South Lakes
South Lakes by 14

Oakton @ Madison
Oakton by 7. They always beat Madison


South County @ Briar Woods
South County wears them out late and wins by 21

West Springfield @ Robinson
West Springfield by 17. Robinson's running back will be out for awhile and they were overrated before that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Whyyyyyy??? ()
Date: August 31, 2016 01:26PM

Steve2K2 Wrote:
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> Edison @ Hayfield
> Hayfield by 21
>
> Fairfax @ Herndon
> Fairfax by 13, new coach with great reputation
>
> Langley @ West Potomac
> West Potomac by 28, speed kills
>
> Mount Vernon @ Stuart
> My. Vernon 2-0... Who would have guessed that
>
> W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
> Tough call. Woodson is improved and chantilly is
> down. Chantilly still has more talent. Chantilly
> by 3.
>
> Washington-Lee @ Westfield
> Westfield by whatever they want
>
> Annandale @ Centreville
> Centreville by 28. Much improved team from a year
> ago. Maybe a dark horse
>
> Eastern @ Falls Church
> Falls Church, maybe??
>
> John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
> ??
>
> Lee @ Lake Braddock
> Lake Braddock by whatever they want
>
> Marshall @ South Lakes
> South Lakes by 14
>
> Oakton @ Madison
> Oakton by 7. They always beat Madison
>
>
> South County @ Briar Woods
> South County wears them out late and wins by 21
>
> West Springfield @ Robinson
> West Springfield by 17. Robinson's running back
> will be out for awhile and they were overrated
> before that.


Why does Chantilly suck so much at football. They clearly have talent as shown by their other sports teams, and it's not that something is wrong with the area because surrounding teams like Westfield, Centreville, and South Lakes are doing well. Additionally, Chantilly has a higher student population than the other schools I just mentioned. What seems to be the issue?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NCAAFB ()
Date: August 31, 2016 01:48PM

Tempted to toss the loser of the Florida State-Ole Miss game out of the College Football Playoff? Ready to crown Bama national champs after a win over USC (8 p.m. ET, ABC)?

Throw some cold water on those hot takes.

History reminds us Week 1 is a mirage; that come late November, all of these winners (and losers) will look completely different. After reviewing the first week of each of the past two seasons in the CFP, here are five reminders to help keep perspective in spite of so many games of such magnitude:

Don't overreact to a Texas A&M win

In each of the past two seasons, the Aggies have wowed us -- for a skinny minute -- in Week 1. Remember 2014? "Kenny Trill?" A&M hammered No. 9 South Carolina 52-28 -- in Columbia! There was only one problem: The Gamecocks weren't even close to being a top-10 team and finished unranked, deflating what appeared to be a statement win. Last year, A&M beat No. 15 Arizona State 38-17. No matter. It was irrelevant after the Aggies finished the regular season with four losses and quarterbacks Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray transferred. Don't be surprised if Texas A&M wins on Saturday against No. 16 UCLA. Be surprised if it amounts to something.

Get your "body clocks" ready

Even former CFP committee chair Jeff Long can joke about this phrase, which became associated with Stanford's shocking 16-6 loss to Northwestern last year in a game which kicked off at 11 a.m. local time. "I think we would not be doing our due diligence if we didn't recognize that that team was playing at 9:00 a.m. Pacific," Long said on Nov. 10 when asked if Stanford's "body clocks" were really a factor. So get ready: Somebody is going to lose unexpectedly again, and when they do -- remember, it's not over. Stanford went on to lose to Oregon too and was still in contention for the top four.

In 2014, the Sooners were ranked No. 4 in the Associated Press preseason poll and finished the season unranked by the selection committee. Last year, Oklahoma was No. 19 in the preseason poll -- and finished in the CFP semifinals at No. 4. The Sooners' fate will not be determined by Saturday's result against Houston (12 p.m. ET, ABC). Oklahoma could go on to run the table, beat a top-ranked Ohio State along the way and earn a spot in the CFP just as it did last year in spite of a loss to Texas. A win is the first step in a long road to getting back to a semifinal.

An LSU win over Wisconsin can be quickly forgotten

In 2014, LSU beat No. 14-ranked Wisconsin 28-24 -- and then lost at home to an unranked Mississippi State team three weeks later. It was only the beginning of the Tigers' unraveling that year, as they went on to lose to Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas that 8-5 season. So it goes in the SEC West. If LSU can win in Lambeau Field on Saturday (3:30 p.m ET, ABC), the Tigers will obviously pad their résumé with a quality nonconference win, but it will only matter if they're relevant in the SEC race this time around.

Alabama is the lone preseason favorite with staying power

The only consistent team from start to finish in the playoff era has been the Tide, which has been ranked in the top four in each of the past two AP preseason polls and managed to finish in the top four of the committee's rankings both years. No. 1 Alabama is again a CFP front-runner heading into Saturday's game against USC. Until proven otherwise, expect the Tide to remain relevant through the SEC schedule.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Messi is better ()
Date: August 31, 2016 01:50PM

Ricky Tan Wrote:
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> Ronaldo enjoyed a sensational 2015/16, winning the
> UEFA Champions League with Madrid before leading
> his country to UEFA EURO 2016 glory. The
> 31-year-old beat off competition from club-mate
> Gareth Bale and Atlético Madrid striker Antoine
> Griezmann to land the award he first picked up in
> 2013/14.
>
> Full results
> Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid/POR) 40
> Antoine Griezmann (Atlético Madrid/FRA) 8
> Gareth Bale (Real Madrid/WAL) 7
>
>
> Ronaldo's 2015/16 records and milestones
>
> Madrid's all-time leading scorer in the Liga
> Five hundred career goals for club and country
> Madrid's all-time record goalscorer
> Most goals in a single group stage
> Second to Lionel Messi in FIFA Ballon d'Or
> Second top scorer in Liga history
> Decisive penalty in Champions League final
> 2015/16 UEFA Champions League top scorer
> Portugal's all-time most-capped player
> UEFA.com Goal of the Season poll winner
> Most all-time EURO finals appearances
> Scores in fourth EURO final tournament
> Joint-most EURO final tournament goals
> Dramatic UEFA EURO 2016 triumph
> Spanish Liga: 36 appearances, 35 goals, 11
> assists
> UEFA Champions League: 12 appearances, 16 goals, 4
> assists
> UEFA EURO 2016: 7 appearances, 3 goals, 3 assists


Fuck Ronaldo it's all about Messi.

Barcelona midfielder Rafinha is open to leaving the club on loan if he does not feature regularly under Luis Enrique this season.

Rafinha, 23, has seen the competition for a place in the Barca starting XI increase this summer following the signings of Denis Suarez and Andre Gomes.

On top of that, Sergio Busquets, Andres Iniesta and Ivan Rakitic are also part of a list of as many as nine players at the club who would name their favoured position as a central midfielder.

Rafinha, who has reportedly attracted interest from Sevilla, can also play further forward and has no immediate plans to leave the Camp Nou, but has conceded he would not be averse to seeking playing time elsewhere if it becomes necessary.

"I don't think about leaving, the truth is that I want to be here at Barca," he told Catalunya Radio. "But logically, if I don't play regularly... well, it's normal that a player wants to play.

"The best for a footballer, what's normal, is to want to be on the pitch. If I don't get that here, there will be no problem going on loan somewhere else. But I will give my all to be able to get minutes for Barca."

Rafinha made his first appearance of the season in Sunday's 1-0 La Liga win over Athletic Bilbao, coming on as a late substitute after returning from Brazil, where he won an Olympic gold medal with his national side.

He has always enjoyed a good relationship with Luis Enrique, who he also worked under at Barca B and during a loan spell at Celta Vigo in the 2013-14 season.

Since returning to Barcelona in 2014, he has made 47 first-team appearances, although that number would have been higher if he had not missed the majority of last season with knee ligament damage.

After Munir El Haddadi's loan move to Valencia was confirmed on Tuesday, the number of players to leave Barca this summer has risen to 13.

Luis Enrique is currently working with a squad of 22 players -- including three goalkeepers -- and it is unlikely he would be willing to allow Rafinha to leave on a temporary basis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FOOTBALL ()
Date: August 31, 2016 02:19PM

LEE high school is my dark horse team this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: September 01, 2016 07:43AM

Edison @ Hayfield
Hayfield by 21

That sounds about right


Fairfax @ Herndon
Fairfax by 13, new coach with great reputation

Might not be enough there. Herndon is still a bad, bad football team.


Langley @ West Potomac
West Potomac by 28, speed kills

Agree. Langley won't be able to keep up.

Mount Vernon @ Stuart
My. Vernon 2-0... Who would have guessed that

Feast while you can, Majors. The Conference schedule is coming.

W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
Tough call. Woodson is improved and chantilly is down. Chantilly still has more talent. Chantilly by 3.

I'm going the other way on this one. Woodson by 3.

Washington-Lee @ Westfield
Westfield by whatever they want

This might be a mercy rule by the 2nd quarter.

Annandale @ Centreville
Centreville by 28. Much improved team from a year ago. Maybe a dark horse

I'm going with Centreville, but not by quite that much. 21 tops.

Eastern @ Falls Church
Falls Church, maybe??

Eastern. Eastern what? No matter, I'm going with Eastern.


John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
Kind of wacky. Friends with the JPtG coach so I'll take them over the smarties.


Lee @ Lake Braddock
Lake Braddock by whatever they want

This one could be like the Westfield game. Effectively over by the start of the 2nd quarter.

Marshall @ South Lakes
South Lakes by 14

eh, I guess.

Oakton @ Madison
Oakton by 7. They always beat Madison

Since it's on the football field and not the baseball field, I'll buy this.

South County @ Briar Woods
South County wears them out late and wins by 21

that's about right.

West Springfield @ Robinson
West Springfield by 17. Robinson's running back will be out for awhile and they were overrated before that.

Agreed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kewal paudel ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:48AM

NEW YORK -- The best 48 hours I've experienced at the world's wildest tennis tournament ended in a back corridor of an exclusive locker room that I never imagined having the license to enter.

"Sorry, Coach," Benjamin Becker told me.

"I should have served better. I had to serve better."

Becker was exactly right, of course, speaking strictly in terms of his objective Tuesday at the US Open, which was trying to shock the world -- as he did precisely a decade earlier -- by beating sixth-seeded Kei Nishikori in the first round.

Yet this was equally true about a conversation that was only possible in a players-and-coaches-only clubhouse because of the magical credential Becker improbably chose to hang around my neck:

The man who famously ushered Andre Agassi into retirement at the 2006 Open, having granted me unprecedented access to a world I've fantasized about since I was 13, was the last person on Earth who had to explain anything to me.

Thanks to Benni's benevolence, this tennis junkie just recharged for his 24th successive season of NBA coverage with a two-day fantasy camp straight off the Stein Line Bucket List.

Thanks to Becker, for the rest of my life now, I'll be able to answer the following question with the biggest smile:

How does it feel to go anywhere you want to go on the grounds of the National Tennis Center with a big gear bag slung over your shoulder in hopes that it makes you look like you know what you're doing?

Answer: Even better than you'd think.

I am by no means remotely qualified to coach a professional tennis player, even for a day, but that didn't stop Becker -- unexpectedly coachless at this Open -- from handing me the assignment. We've built a friendship as co-residents of the Dallas area over the past few years, sparked mostly by his and fellow German touring pro Philipp Petzschner's uber fandom of countryman Dirk Nowitzki and the NBA. The effect was doubled by my corresponding obsession with tennis, which began for me around the seventh grade and, truth be told, clinched my career choice of sports writer before I could drive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: September 01, 2016 12:42PM

Offering up my comments as well, but only on certain games.

Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> Edison @ Hayfield
> Hayfield by 21
>
> That sounds about right
>
Agree as well
>
> Fairfax @ Herndon
> Fairfax by 13, new coach with great reputation
>
> Might not be enough there. Herndon is still a bad,
> bad football team.
>
True about Herdon, but don't forget that Fairfax was also a bad team last year, finishing 1-9. I have seen a bit of Fairfax this year, and it looks like their offense is better than last year, but I have questions about their defense. I'm going to go with Fairfax to win this game, and I think the line is about right.
>
> Langley @ West Potomac
> West Potomac by 28, speed kills
>
> Agree. Langley won't be able to keep up.

Also Agree

>
> Mount Vernon @ Stuart
> My. Vernon 2-0... Who would have guessed that
>
> Feast while you can, Majors. The Conference
> schedule is coming.

Good point, but W-L is generally a well-coached team, so that result is surprising. I saw W-L scrimmage Annandale, and even though they lost a lot from last year's team, they looked like the better team against Annandale. So Mt. Vernon's win against W-L looks better than it would otherwise seem.

>
> W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
> Tough call. Woodson is improved and chantilly is
> down. Chantilly still has more talent. Chantilly
> by 3.
>
> I'm going the other way on this one. Woodson by
> 3.

I agree. I've seen Woodson scrimmage, and they look good. Woodson is a classic example of a team getting lucky. Their season last year was heading south, until West Springfield gave them a gift-wrapped win. However, that win has generated enthusiasm for that program, and it showed in the scrimmage that I saw.

>
> Washington-Lee @ Westfield
> Westfield by whatever they want
>
> This might be a mercy rule by the 2nd quarter.

Agree

>
> Annandale @ Centreville
> Centreville by 28. Much improved team from a year
> ago. Maybe a dark horse
>
> I'm going with Centreville, but not by quite that
> much. 21 tops.

I agree, though if Centreville wins by this much, it's more because Annandale doesn't look as good this year.

>
> Eastern @ Falls Church
> Falls Church, maybe??
>
> Eastern. Eastern what? No matter, I'm going with
> Eastern.
>
>
> John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
> Kind of wacky. Friends with the JPtG coach so I'll
> take them over the smarties.
>
>
> Lee @ Lake Braddock
> Lake Braddock by whatever they want
>
> This one could be like the Westfield game.
> Effectively over by the start of the 2nd quarter.
>
> Marshall @ South Lakes
> South Lakes by 14
>
> eh, I guess.
>
> Oakton @ Madison
> Oakton by 7. They always beat Madison
>
> Since it's on the football field and not the
> baseball field, I'll buy this.
>
> South County @ Briar Woods
> South County wears them out late and wins by 21
>
> that's about right.
>
> West Springfield @ Robinson
> West Springfield by 17. Robinson's running back
> will be out for awhile and they were overrated
> before that.
>
> Agreed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pGymT ()
Date: September 01, 2016 02:19PM

On the strategy front, finally, came some good input from Golden State Warriors superfan Brad Gilbert, who years ago used to coach Nishikori: "To me, believe it or not, one place I would investigate is [hitting] deep down the middle. Sometimes Nishikori ... I think he's a lot better when he's one or two steps away from the center. I think Benni can make a little progression if he plays down the middle."

Gilbert's theory was backed by Aussie innovator Craig O'Shannessy, who sits at the forefront of the movement to bring tennis into the modern age of sports analytics and starred on the first tennis panel in the history of the Sloan Sports Conference, which I moderated in the spring of 2012.

According to O'Shannessy's data, Becker's best shot at winning depended on keeping points short, keeping the ball away from Nishikori's backhand as much as he could and attacking as aggressively as possible on Nishikori's second serve.

A hint of competency bubbled inside me Tuesday morning when Becker informed me that he had largely arrived at the same conclusions in his own fact-finding quest before the match.

Then I started to feel borderline optimistic when, on top of the fact that two of the pair's five previous meetings went to a tiebreaker in the deciding set, Nishikori didn't show for his scheduled 9:15 a.m. warm-up on the gleaming new Grandstand court.

Blessed with a locked-in start time of 11 a.m. in the first match of the day, both camps naturally requested a practice hit to get a taste of the court. But because Benni also wanted to warm up in the 9 o'clock hour, which would have necessitated splitting the court, Nishikori's decision to scrap that planned session suggested, at least to me, that perhaps we had annoyed him a bit.

If so, it wasn't nearly enough annoyance. Nishikori fans started finding their way into the stands as early as 9:35 a.m. ... and their hero started just as quickly. The US Open's 2014 runner-up capitalized on two Benni double-faults in the opening game, crushed four winners for a second quick break and ultimately hit 13 outright winners to Benni's one in the opening set.

Coaching me through this trauma in the players' box was my dear friend and Dallas neighbor Philip Farmer, who helped Bob and Mike Bryan achieve their first year-end No. 1 ranking in doubles in 2003 and later worked with top singles stars Sam Querrey and Shahar Pe'er. He quickly spotted Benni's struggles to read where Nishikori was going with his expertly disguised backhand and tried his best to ease the blame I was inevitably heaping on myself for the 6-1, 6-1 hole that engulfed Becker after just 49 minutes on the court.

"This guy [Nishikori] off the ground," Dr. Phil tried to tell me, "is very powerful and very accurate."


But things changed dramatically in the third set. I'd love to be able to claim some responsibility, too, but it was all Benni. He called for a bathroom break and informed me after the match that there were no bathroom duties involved. With a USTA official waiting outside, Becker kicked the door as hard as he could, cursed himself out in German and purged a good bit of his boiling anger.

Then he started to play the shots he intended to from the start, hitting out on numerous forehands, leaning into his backhand and putting pressure on the Nishikori second serve. He won the third set in 41 minutes, seized an early break in the fourth and had me fist-pumping next to Dr. Phil in the box as if I thought it could truly make a difference.

Benni later told me that the only other time he had uncorked the door-kicking bathroom routine was the 2015 Australian Open, where he rallied from two sets down to stun Aussie legend Lleyton Hewitt in five sets. With Nishikori starting to look a bit shaky, I really believed we were, at worst, going to lose in five sets here. Benni had seized the momentum.

Or so I prematurely concluded.

At 2-1 up in the fourth set, Benni double-faulted three times, which understandably unnerved a big server like him. He would ultimately total an uncharacteristic 10 double faults, which is why he was so dismayed with his serving overall.

Just as costly was a missed overhead at 30-all in the seventh game of the set. If Benni converted there, he'd have seized a huge break point opportunity. But he netted the inviting smash and won only two more points thereafter before Nishikori closed out a 6-1, 6-1, 3-6, 6-3 triumph.

"I was excited about that overhead," Benni said. "I wanted him to hit the lob. I was so excited that I jumped too early and realized in the air that I jumped too early."

We spent a good 20 minutes after the match replaying it all in that locker room, player and coach, reconstructing dozens of points behind a solitary door that shuts out the rest of the tennis world. You can safely presume that I'll remember the whole experience with far greater fondness than Benni will, since I'll surely never get this close to the game again.

Chauffeured to the site of the Open at 8 a.m. in one of those snazzy silver Mercedes SUVs. Soaking up all the oxygen on the pristine Grandstand court with Benni and hitting partner Daniel Brands before anyone else set foot inside the stadium. Coaching head-to-head, if you want to get technical, against a rather famous fellow Orange County, California, native named Michael Chang.

It all made me feel close enough to where I surely could have convinced even 13-year-old Marc Stein that, at least for a couple of days, I really did make it behind the curtain.

What Benjamin Becker didn't know when he extended this short-term job offer is that this would also be a historic Open for me. I probably shouldn't be sticking this in the same paragraph as Benni's unforgettable triumph in '06, which led to one of the longest standing ovations in the game's history to bring Agassi's career to an emotional halt, but 2016 marks the 30th anniversary of my first trip here, when I attended this one-of-a-kind carnival on cement as a 17-year-old with my El Toro High School doubles partner Craig DiFilippo.

In those days, I still deluded myself into thinking I could emulate my heroes: Shlomo Glickstein and Amos Mansdorf. Two short years later, when I covered another one of my all-time faves -- John McEnroe -- in my first pro tournament as a tennis scribe on the campus of UCLA in September 1988, I was focused on becoming the next Bud Collins.

This coaching stuff was a sensational racket, too, especially for a lifelong tennis dreamer. But a return to the real world beckons.

When another NBA-loving tennis pal, former world No. 7 and Minnesota Timberwolves devotee Mardy Fish, checked in via text Tuesday afternoon to ask what went wrong for "Coach Steiny," I gave it to him straight.

Time to go back where I belong. Back to what I do best. Back to being a professional second-guesser on the other side of the door.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2016 10:14PM

History was made, for the first time in Westfield history, a freshman has played a regular season game, and he looked good out there. Rehman Johnson had 2 nice TD passes and a run for a TD in the first half before he sat out. Special Teams looked really good. Defenses looked as dominant as last year. And I know that they were playing against Washington and Lee, but the sophomore defensive back that everyone was bashing last week had 2 interceptions and took one back for a touchdown. In my 5 years of watching Westfield football I've never seen the offense run so smoothly, they looked really good even though one of their starting O-Linemen was out as well as their starting Running Back, Eugene Asante. Their sophomores looked really impressive but there don't seem to be too many junior contributors other than Tight End Nolan Cockrill. All in all they looked a lot better this year versus Washington Lee than they did last year, they could've easily scored 60+ points if they wanted to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 7VKxv ()
Date: September 01, 2016 10:50PM

I don't know what happened to W-L but they were not nearly as good a team as last year.

WFD did look pretty good although their o-line had a few shaky moments. I think you are confused though - the sophomore with the picks tonight was a LB not a DB.

Hopefully, someone is babysitting the kids this weekend - WFD will need all hands on deck to have a chance vs SoCo.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What?? ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:21PM

History was not made tonight, pretty certain Eddie Royal and Evan Royster played as freshman for Westfield, Lewis Corrum as well I think. The freshman is decent nothing spectacular, he's just part of a very thin varsity team. I've been following WF football since they opened. This is a decent team, but they are small and not very deep. The defense did look good but W&L is horrible, not much to boast about. If you think this D is better than last year then you're sadly mistaken. The DB that intercepted those two passes is an OLB, even though he's listed as a DB. He is NOT the DB that was being bashed two weeks ago. They'll be plenty of time for that once WF plays a real opponent. I'll be impressed if they play well next week against SOCO, then Stone Bridge and Briar Woods. The one positive is the offense is definitely ahead of where they were last year, which is good because they will need to score this year to win. W&L was crushed last week by Mt. Vernon, I believe they've won 3 or so games over the past couple years. Don't be misconstrued, this opponent tonight was a joke.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tilly Titans ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:28PM

I agree with 7VKxv that WF will need everything they got to stay with SC. Tomorrow's game against SC vs. Briar Woods will shed allot of light on how good SC is. WL is not up to par to keep up with a NOVA power house, not the Coaches fault, they just don't get the demographics that produce quality football teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What?? ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:33PM

And as far as your comment about never seeing a Westfield offense run so
smoothly that shows you've only been watching them for a few years. The Glennon era, both Sean and Mike were truly talented offenses. There were so
many quality players on those teams, Royster, Royal, Kruchko, Anderson, Corrum, etc. This offense appears to be more dynamic than the past couple years but it's nothing special. You've just been bored to death over the mundane ones WF has been winning games with the past few years. They were able to get away with it cause their defenses were so good. Be interesting to see how this season pans out but it's only one game, against a crummy team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:34PM

What?? Wrote:
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> History was not made tonight, pretty certain Eddie
> Royal and Evan Royster played as freshman for
> Westfield, Lewis Corrum as well I think. The
> freshman is decent nothing spectacular, he's just
> part of a very thin varsity team. I've been
> following WF football since they opened. This is a
> decent team, but they are small and not very deep.
> The defense did look good but W&L is horrible, not
> much to boast about. If you think this D is better
> than last year then you're sadly mistaken. The DB
> that intercepted those two passes is an OLB, even
> though he's listed as a DB. He is NOT the DB that
> was being bashed two weeks ago. They'll be plenty
> of time for that once WF plays a real opponent.
> I'll be impressed if they play well next week
> against SOCO, then Stone Bridge and Briar Woods.
> The one positive is the offense is definitely
> ahead of where they were last year, which is good
> because they will need to score this year to win.
> W&L was crushed last week by Mt. Vernon, I believe
> they've won 3 or so games over the past couple
> years. Don't be misconstrued, this opponent
> tonight was a joke.

Make no mistake I never said W&L was a good team. Evan Royster didn't play varsity as a freshman and Eddie Royal didn't go to Westfield as a freshman, he was at South Lakes and PVI before he came to Westfield. It was my mistake on DB, I got the wrong kid. Of course W&L is a bad team but even against bad teams it's been a while since I've seen Westfield come out and dominate like that. We'll have a good idea of how good Westfield and SOCO are in about a week or so.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What?? ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:36PM

And I meant Mt.Vernon has won only a few games over the past couple seasons, not W&L. So the fact that they crushed W&L doesn't make tonight's WF victory that impressive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What?? ()
Date: September 01, 2016 11:43PM

I might have been mistaken about the players but I'm pretty certain he wasn't the first freshman to ever play on varsity. My main point was that this team is good but nothing special. Looking at the roster they're smaller in size and numbers that recent past. Hell, the freshman team only has 52 kids, there were twice as many than that a mere 2-3 years ago. You would think a program as successful as WF would benefit from a state championship in regard to the number of kids coming out to play. That's not the case, it would appear demographics and the fear of concussions has resulted in a paultry turn out for WF football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:05AM

What?? Wrote:
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> I might have been mistaken about the players but
> I'm pretty certain he wasn't the first freshman to
> ever play on varsity. My main point was that this
> team is good but nothing special. Looking at the
> roster they're smaller in size and numbers that
> recent past. Hell, the freshman team only has 52
> kids, there were twice as many than that a mere
> 2-3 years ago. You would think a program as
> successful as WF would benefit from a state
> championship in regard to the number of kids
> coming out to play. That's not the case, it would
> appear demographics and the fear of concussions
> has resulted in a paultry turn out for WF
> football.

I understand where you are coming and I respect everything you say. 2 years ago there were 57 kids on the freshman team, and last year there were only 51. I don't know how many there were 3 years ago about I'm sure it's not twice as many as this year or nearly anywhere close. Another thing to keep in mind is the declining population at Westfield. This isn't the same school that was overcrowded with 3000+ kids, they ended last year with a 2600 kids, which is in part kind of the cause for the decline in numbers, but even then 52 is still a big number, so I doubt numbers are an issue for Westfield. You might be right about Noah Kim not being the first freshman to play in a regular season varsity game, but he's definetly the only one that comes to mind and I've been following Westfield football for a while now. To say that the team is good and nothing special just because they are younger than normal is not fair. I remember how everybody said Westfield was good but nothing special last year and look what they did. Westfield has always been a team that gets better with time. I'm not saying that Westfield will have it easy, I was just saying that they look a lot better than they normally do at this point in the season. And I'd also like to let you know that I'm not trying to troll you, so please don't misunderstand me.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Please ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:12AM

A lot of flaws in this WF team, some fixable, some not. The offense will go as 17 goes. If he learns to check down more often instead of locking on, he will see some of the wide open weapons he failed to see even against an outmanned W&L team. There's no running game to speak of, although 15 seems to run hard. 26 has good moves and quickness in open space, but he doesn't get to open space often. If the coach opens it up, the running game will benefit greatly. Defensively, the line and LB's should be able to play with anybody. DB's are a problem, but a lot of that is due to inexperience, not athleticism or effort. If WF can create pressure and force quick throws, they can hide the bigger weaknesses on this defense. The most obvious WF weakness is depth - there is none. The O line, missing at least one starter, did not dominate tonight. Lose another starter, and they are in trouble. Defensively, lose 93 or 32, and the defense also would be in trouble. There is no one behind the DB's.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:21AM

Please Wrote:
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> A lot of flaws in this WF team, some fixable, some
> not. The offense will go as 17 goes. If he
> learns to check down more often instead of locking
> on, he will see some of the wide open weapons he
> failed to see even against an outmanned W&L team.
> There's no running game to speak of, although 15
> seems to run hard. 26 has good moves and
> quickness in open space, but he doesn't get to
> open space often. If the coach opens it up, the
> running game will benefit greatly. Defensively,
> the line and LB's should be able to play with
> anybody. DB's are a problem, but a lot of that is
> due to inexperience, not athleticism or effort. If
> WF can create pressure and force quick throws,
> they can hide the bigger weaknesses on this
> defense. The most obvious WF weakness is depth -
> there is none. The O line, missing at least one
> starter, did not dominate tonight. Lose another
> starter, and they are in trouble. Defensively,
> lose 93 or 32, and the defense also would be in
> trouble. There is no one behind the DB's.

I thought both the RBs did pretty good tonight considering they are backups, they are still missing their starting RB Eugene Asante who is a very good player. The team has other injuries so they aren't fully healthy yet. And yes the biggest problem is inexperience as there are multiple sophomores getting a lot of playing time, specifically Clancey, Morin, McCain, Kiley, and Asante. They will get better as time goes as they normally do. Yes the depth isn't as good as it has been in the past but there are very few teams in NOVA, if any that have more depth than Westfield. If there players can stay out of trouble and can stay healthy they have a shot at the state title, but the same can be said for Lake Braddock and South County. NOTE: I'm not saying that Westfield will dominate everyone like its 2007, I'm just stating that they are looking much better than they normally do during Week 1 especially considering that they are a lot younger than they normally are and have a couple key players injured.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:29AM

Winning it is what we do at Westfield. Winning is what we will always do at Westfield.

WInning

Winners

No whining

We are god's special children

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Please ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:33AM

I agree they look sharper this year when compared to the countless penalties and miscues against W&L last year. I won't be surprised if the struggle against SoCo, but this year especially it will be about player development (17 and the DB's especially). If they don't lose a key player, WF should be more than competitive down the final stretch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:39AM

Don't question Westfield, we are beyond reproach. We are truly special, the chosen ones.

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wf fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 01:59AM

Why do you keep saying Asante is the starting back he never was the starter?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wf fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 02:08AM

Please Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A lot of flaws in this WF team, some fixable, some
> not. The offense will go as 17 goes. If he
> learns to check down more often instead of locking
> on, he will see some of the wide open weapons he
> failed to see even against an outmanned W&L team.
> There's no running game to speak of, although 15
> seems to run hard. 26 has good moves and
> quickness in open space, but he doesn't get to
> open space often. If the coach opens it up, the
> running game will benefit greatly. Defensively,
> the line and LB's should be able to play with
> anybody. DB's are a problem, but a lot of that is
> due to inexperience, not athleticism or effort. If
> WF can create pressure and force quick throws,
> they can hide the bigger weaknesses on this
> defense. The most obvious WF weakness is depth -
> there is none. The O line, missing at least one
> starter, did not dominate tonight. Lose another
> starter, and they are in trouble. Defensively,
> lose 93 or 32, and the defense also would be in
> trouble. There is no one behind the DB's.

Why do you keep saying Asante is the starting back he never was the starter?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wf fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 02:11AM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Please Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A lot of flaws in this WF team, some fixable,
> some
> > not. The offense will go as 17 goes. If he
> > learns to check down more often instead of
> locking
> > on, he will see some of the wide open weapons
> he
> > failed to see even against an outmanned W&L
> team.
> > There's no running game to speak of, although
> 15
> > seems to run hard. 26 has good moves and
> > quickness in open space, but he doesn't get to
> > open space often. If the coach opens it up,
> the
> > running game will benefit greatly. Defensively,
> > the line and LB's should be able to play with
> > anybody. DB's are a problem, but a lot of that
> is
> > due to inexperience, not athleticism or effort.
> If
> > WF can create pressure and force quick throws,
> > they can hide the bigger weaknesses on this
> > defense. The most obvious WF weakness is depth
> -
> > there is none. The O line, missing at least one
> > starter, did not dominate tonight. Lose
> another
> > starter, and they are in trouble. Defensively,
> > lose 93 or 32, and the defense also would be in
> > trouble. There is no one behind the DB's.
>
> I thought both the RBs did pretty good tonight
> considering they are backups, they are still
> missing their starting RB Eugene Asante who is a
> very good player. The team has other injuries so
> they aren't fully healthy yet. And yes the biggest
> problem is inexperience as there are multiple
> sophomores getting a lot of playing time,
> specifically Clancey, Morin, McCain, Kiley, and
> Asante. They will get better as time goes as they
> normally do. Yes the depth isn't as good as it has
> been in the past but there are very few teams in
> NOVA, if any that have more depth than Westfield.
> If there players can stay out of trouble and can
> stay healthy they have a shot at the state title,
> but the same can be said for Lake Braddock and
> South County. NOTE: I'm not saying that Westfield
> will dominate everyone like its 2007, I'm just
> stating that they are looking much better than
> they normally do during Week 1 especially
> considering that they are a lot younger than they
> normally are and have a couple key players
> injured.

Why do you keep saying Asante is the starting back he never was the starter?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference Clown ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:12AM

Asante a good athlete at the Freshmen Level, Has Done Zero at Varsity so...nothing to Report there!

One would hope that all the Sophmores would have gotten reps last night considering it was 28 to 0 before the band got warmed up..their Reps do not necessarily speak to their ability, Rather W&L's inability.

The Kim kid will develop into a capable HS Athlete one of many workman QB's to lead,
the Westfield offense as for Him being at the Varsity level several things..Depth at the position, your 2nd string QB has become your first Team Running Back and Ultimately look no further than that Gaggle of kids wrestling on the sidelines, Two sets of Coaches kids, one happens to Coach QB's the other's kid happens to Play Freshmen QB ...Do the Math.

Ponder this,there are 15-20 Starters that never took varsity Reps as Freshmen who we're far more game Ready including a few who never even received the post Season call up...Is this a slap in their Face by the Coaching Staff or Desperate need at 1 position....

Next Week you won't see the Sophmore Elites nor the Freshman phenom..what you will see is just how Hungry the Champs are...Are they and the Staff up for the Challenge...Who cares..it's week 2!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: new to nova ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:19AM

Nice comments...
What everyone is missing is this...
Westfield has a nucleus of State Champions back..
Defensively Jewell, Petrino, and Free played like studs, and more importantly led like studs.
Offensive side, Johnson was outstanding, as well as Frimpomg, Eckert, and Cockrell.
This was week 1....state champions are NOT coronated on week 1!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 3EU7N ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:36AM

What is the Concorde coming to when Woodson is taking down Chantilly? Was anyone at that game and what did they see?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:32AM

Nice comments...
What everyone is missing is this...
Westfield has a nucleus of State Champions back..
Defensively Jewell, Petrino, and Free played like studs, and more importantly led like studs.
Offensive side, Johnson was outstanding, as well as Frimpomg, Eckert, and Cockrell.
This was week 1....state champions are NOT coronated on week 1!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's Petrillo, not Petrino. They have a nucleus of a good football team, whether it's state championship caliper we'll find out over the next few weeks. SOCO, Stone Bridge, and Briar Woods will show how good this team really is. WF beat up on a pathetic W&L team, there were what, 42 or 43 kids on the Generals team. I think most area JV teams would pound W&L. WF is very thin at most positions, they have a lot of kids on the roster that have never taken a varsity snap as the previous post mentioned. Their secondary will be very suspect until they prove otherwise, the o-line is decent but not great. Their strength is the font 7 on defense and skill position players on offense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: another ENTITLED athlete ()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:42AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/standford-rape-swimmer-brock-turner-released-1.3745656

3 months for rape? Helps to be an Olympic swimmer!

End sports entitlemnt now!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 11:19AM

Of course Westfield is the best and all others are posers. This should be the Westfield is great thread.

WINNING

WINNERS

NO WHINING

SOME DIXIE CUPPING AND RULES INFRACTIONS

BUT ALWAYS WINNING - WESTFIELD - WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 02, 2016 11:44AM

Chelsea striker Diego Costa helped Spain to a 2-0 friendly win over Belgium in Brussels before calling out the Spanish media for their criticism of his performances for the national team.

Costa set up David Silva for Spain's first goal before the Manchester City midfielder went on to score his second goal of the night to cap off a good performance for Julen Lopetegui's men.

Costa was brought on in the 27th minute in place of an injured Alvaro Morata, and reckons it was one of his best games for Spain.

"If I were a Real Madrid or Barca player, you would say I played well," Costa told reporters.

"I did bad games. But even if I don't score, the truth must be said. I missed the goals but they will arrive.

"Media don't lie many times when they say I have not done great things with the national team. But you have to say it as well when I play well."

With just one goal scored in 11 appearances for Spain, Costa refuted criticism that it was another poor outing by his standards against Belgium.

"I think this one has been my best game with the national team. Not like other times when I leave hurt," Costa said.

"It's my bad because sometimes I f--- it, but other times some people make a storm out of a little thing."

Costa is likely to continue on the bench in Spain's World Cup Group G qualifier against Liechtenstein next Tuesday as Morata was only taken off as a precautionary measure with that game in mind.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: YePWX ()
Date: September 02, 2016 11:46AM

Whyyyyyy??? Wrote:
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> Steve2K2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Edison @ Hayfield
> > Hayfield by 21
> >
> > Fairfax @ Herndon
> > Fairfax by 13, new coach with great reputation
> >
> > Langley @ West Potomac
> > West Potomac by 28, speed kills
> >
> > Mount Vernon @ Stuart
> > My. Vernon 2-0... Who would have guessed that
> >
> > W.T. Woodson @ Chantilly
> > Tough call. Woodson is improved and chantilly
> is
> > down. Chantilly still has more talent.
> Chantilly
> > by 3.
> >
> > Washington-Lee @ Westfield
> > Westfield by whatever they want
> >
> > Annandale @ Centreville
> > Centreville by 28. Much improved team from a
> year
> > ago. Maybe a dark horse
> >
> > Eastern @ Falls Church
> > Falls Church, maybe??
> >
> > John Paul the Great @ Thomas Jefferson
> > ??
> >
> > Lee @ Lake Braddock
> > Lake Braddock by whatever they want
> >
> > Marshall @ South Lakes
> > South Lakes by 14
> >
> > Oakton @ Madison
> > Oakton by 7. They always beat Madison
> >
> >
> > South County @ Briar Woods
> > South County wears them out late and wins by 21
> >
> > West Springfield @ Robinson
> > West Springfield by 17. Robinson's running
> back
> > will be out for awhile and they were overrated
> > before that.
>
>
> Why does Chantilly suck so much at football. They
> clearly have talent as shown by their other sports
> teams, and it's not that something is wrong with
> the area because surrounding teams like Westfield,
> Centreville, and South Lakes are doing well.
> Additionally, Chantilly has a higher student
> population than the other schools I just
> mentioned. What seems to be the issue?


All the kids at Chantilly are more concerned with boys like him.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL Official ()
Date: September 02, 2016 11:48AM

Chantilly has been relegated to the Liberty District..much like Soccer if you want to move up in Classification you have to Win..Another Storied Program allowed its Leadership to Destroy it From Within..Boots and Saddles to the once Proud Tilly Klan!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Terrible news for Dale ()
Date: September 02, 2016 12:12PM

Dale Earnhardt Jr. will miss the rest of the 2016 Sprint Cup season as he recovers from concussion symptoms, it was announced Friday.

Earnhardt has missed the past six races because of a concussion his doctors believe was suffered in a June 12 crash at Michigan International Speedway. He has been undergoing regular evaluations at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Sports Medicine Concussion Program and is being treated for issues related to balance and focusing on objects that are at a distance while moving his head.

"I wish I could return to the No. 88 team this season," Earnhardt, who has not been medically cleared to compete, said in a statement. "To say I'm disappointed doesn't begin to describe how I feel, but I know this is the right thing for my long-term health and career. I'm 100 percent focused on my recovery, and I will continue to follow everything the doctors tell me. They're seeing good progress in my test results, and I'm feeling that progress physically. I plan to be healthy and ready to compete at Daytona in February. I'm working toward that.

"The support from both inside and outside the race team has been overwhelming. Everyone has been so encouraging and positive, from my teammates and sponsors to my family, friends and fans. It's motivating and humbling at the same time."

Hendrick Motorsports said Jeff Gordon, who is again driving for Earnhardt this weekend at Darlington, and Alex Bowman will continue to fill in for the remaining 12 races on the Sprint Cup schedule.

"I know how hard Dale has worked and how frustrating this is for him," team owner Rick Hendrick said in a statement. "He wants to be back, and we want him back, but we want it to be for the long haul. We've had incredible support from everyone involved with the team, including all of our sponsors. They've put Dale's health first every step of the way."

From a competition standpoint, missing the remainder of the season should not hurt Earnhardt. The only way he would have made the Chase for the Sprint Cup is if he came back next week at Richmond and won the race. The NASCAR car specifications also will change for 2017, meaning the cars will drive differently next season than they will the remainder of this year.

Speaking Aug. 5 at Watkins Glen, Earnhardt stressed he wanted to continue racing. His contract with Hendrick runs through 2017.

"As soon as I can get healthy and get confident in how I feel and feel like I can drive a car and be great driving it, then I want to drive," said Earnhardt, who missed two races in 2012 after suffering two concussions in six weeks. "I want to race. I miss the competition. I miss being here.

"I miss the people and, as Rick [Hendrick] likes to say, 'We've got unfinished business.' I'm not ready to stop racing. I'm not ready to quit. It's a slower process. I wish it wasn't."

In addition to Sunday's race, Gordon will be behind the wheel of the No. 88 for races at Richmond (Sept. 10), Dover (Oct. 2) and Martinsville (Oct. 30). Bowman will drive at Chicagoland (Sept. 18), New Hampshire (Sept. 25), Charlotte (Oct. 8), Kansas (Oct. 16), Talladega (Oct. 23), Texas (Nov. 6), Phoenix (Nov. 13) and the series finale at Homestead (Nov. 20).

Earnhardt, who turns 42 in October, has 26 victories -- including two Daytona 500 wins -- in 595 career Sprint Cup starts. He has finished in the top-10 in 42 percent of his races.

The son of seven-time Sprint Cup champion and NASCAR Hall of Famer Dale Earnhardt, Earnhardt Jr. has never won a Cup title, with a best finish in the season standings of third in 2003. After missing the Chase for two consecutive seasons, he has enjoyed a career resurgence with five consecutive Chase appearances from 2011 to 2015.

"It's sad to see that he's not going to be able to get back in the car in 2016 because, as a race-car driver, that's where you want to be," said Elliott Sadler, who drives for Earnhardt in the Xfinity Series. "You want to be in your race car competing week in and week out. It's tough not to be able to see him in his famed No. 88 car the rest of the year.

"On the flip side to that ... (I'm) proud of him to take a step back, make sure he gets everything in line that he needs to get in-line from a medical side or feeling side to be 100 percent when the 2107 season starts."

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: JustaCuriousFan ()
Date: September 02, 2016 03:10PM

Hayfield 67 Edison 0

Wow is Hayfield that good or is Edison just that bad?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nice start ()
Date: September 02, 2016 06:38PM

Mt. Vernon 2-0......weak opponents, maybe, but they're supposed to be weak, too.
nice job, MV

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football alum ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:44PM

For right now, I would say that Edison is a really bad team. They haven't been a great football team for the past 8 years. Although, Hayfield's onslaught on Edison was pretty remarkable. Putting up nearly 70 points in the opener especially against a rival team is a strong feat for the Hawks (that's the most points Hayfield has scored in school history!). Usually Hayfield/Edison games are much closer than that (with the Hawks always coming out on top). But a better measuring stick for the Hawks would be against Tuscarora next week - that would really tell if the Hawks are legit or not.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cookie & Cream ()
Date: September 02, 2016 08:57PM

Oakton should quit football. If you think this game was ugly, just wait till they play the Concorde powerhouses.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Robbie ()
Date: September 02, 2016 09:38PM

Robinson 49 West Springfield 14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 02, 2016 10:32PM

Robbie Wrote:
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> Robinson 49 West Springfield 14

Anyone know why Muskett didn't play for West Springfield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The witcher ()
Date: September 02, 2016 10:56PM

football observer Wrote:
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> Robbie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Robinson 49 West Springfield 14
>
> Anyone know why Muskett didn't play for West
> Springfield?

Muskett got hurt in practice. I might be wrong, but I heard it was an ankle injury.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observations ()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:44AM

Lots of blowouts this week...

Oakton? WTF?

Wakefield? Why does Arlington suck so badly?

South County? Much closer game against Briar Woods than you thought, huh?

Chantilly? Ugh, lost to Woodson. Inexcusable. Putrid.

Centreville? Looks like celebrating the diversity has finally doomed

Annandale.

TC Williams? Why do you suck so badly? Shut out by Stone Bridge?

Hayfield? Pump the brakes folks. Edison is historically bad.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher X ()
Date: September 03, 2016 12:31PM

I went to the SC-BW game. A few things about the close score:
1. SC might not be as good as they are hyped to be.
2. BW is just as good SC. In fact, they were better last night they just did not outscore SC because they failed to score on 4 of 5 drives that got inside the SC 31 yard line. Two fumbles, an INT, and a really bad series that began with a wide open receiver dropping a pass on the goal line; the same play resulted in a BW penalty and the next two plays were another BW penalty and a sack to push BW back into their own half of the field. BW left probably 21-24 points on the field whereas SC only left 7 (an INT late in the game at the BW 5 yard line).
3. SC is still full of themselves, from the fans to Pannoni to the team. They had four personal fouls in the game, two in the first 6 minutes when the game got chippy almost immediately. Pannoni had to be told to get off the field in one instance, The fans were a bit rude and some had no idea what was going on but were yelling anyway when the game got tense and exciting in the last 6-7 minutes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Game Of The Year ()
Date: September 03, 2016 12:56PM

The regular season game of the year will be next Friday, SOCO vs Westfield! Any predictions? It could go either way in my opinion as both teams are equally talented, however, I think Westfield is coached better so I'll give them an edge in this matchup. It will be high scoring unlike last years week 2 matchup.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Freedom Goon ()
Date: September 03, 2016 01:14PM

Damn what happened to Oakton?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chocolate Chip ()
Date: September 03, 2016 01:25PM

Freedom Goon Wrote:
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> Damn what happened to Oakton?


South Lakes stole all their athletes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A-5A ()
Date: September 03, 2016 01:25PM

Here is what is Known, Briar Woods has the Talent to Beat anyone this Year, and SoCo with their lack of Discipline and Poor Coaching has the ability to beat themselves any Game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 03, 2016 02:18PM

Yes there are two things that are known - Pannoni and the SOCO boys are overrated and Westfield is the best, will rule their matchup, will rule the rest of the season, and deserves as a school to go down amongst the best of all time.

Winning

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 03, 2016 02:32PM

Agreed, Westfield is simply the class of the Northern Region. Too good for everyone else.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Friday ()
Date: September 03, 2016 03:19PM

Westfield is not healthy and Does not have the Athletic depth to compete with South County Yet...Give it Time we have seen this story play out Before...SoCo can win by 35 next Week no big Deal

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 03, 2016 03:47PM

Blashpemer, non believer, crazy person. Do not question Westfield, we are above criticism, we ARE the chosen ones. Winning!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yuz craze ()
Date: September 03, 2016 05:16PM

Time for the pompous Westfield fans on this site to get theirs. It is coming this season, I guarantee.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soccer Rulz ()
Date: September 03, 2016 05:34PM

^^^^^ So Says the Oakton Homer...Warhawk!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pUNyG ()
Date: September 03, 2016 09:26PM

yuz craze Wrote:
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> Time for the pompous Westfield fans on this site
> to get theirs. It is coming this season, I
> guarantee.

Please... those are the posts of Westfield-hating trolls. In fact, you might be the troll trolling your original trolling.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: check the reality ()
Date: September 03, 2016 10:14PM

I did not know that there was such a Westfield obsessed group on this site. Whats up with that?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Obsession ()
Date: September 03, 2016 10:37PM

Haters gonna Hate....sure Would be nice if South County, Lake Braddock, could win the big one...Then the Trolls could quit obsessing with Westfield it is Pathetic how so many on here are obsessed with Them..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wake Alum ()
Date: September 03, 2016 10:54PM

What happened to my boys from Wakefield? They got dusted pretty good. Thought they were supposed to be good this year!
And, did anyone go to Chantilly-Woodson game? Is Chantilly really bad or is Woodson improved? Combination of both maybe?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: eFvYJ ()
Date: September 03, 2016 10:58PM

Watcher X Wrote:
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> 2. BW is just as good SC. In fact, they were
> better last night

^^^^^
Assertion.

> they just did not outscore SC
> because they failed to score on 4 of 5 drives that
> got inside the SC 31 yard line. Two fumbles, an
> INT, and a really bad series that began with a
> wide open receiver dropping a pass on the goal
> line; the same play resulted in a BW penalty and
> the next two plays were another BW penalty and a
> sack to push BW back into their own half of the
> field. BW left probably 21-24 points on the field
> whereas SC only left 7 (an INT late in the game at
> the BW 5 yard line).

^^^^^^
Lists about 6-7 reasons that demonstrate BW was actually NOT the better team.

????

Anyway, yeah, Pannoni, Haddock and Thompson might be great coaches but they are whining assholes on the sidelines.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region fan ()
Date: September 03, 2016 11:47PM

Wake Alum Wrote:
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> What happened to my boys from Wakefield? They got
> dusted pretty good. Thought they were supposed to
> be good this year!
> And, did anyone go to Chantilly-Woodson game? Is
> Chantilly really bad or is Woodson improved?
> Combination of both maybe?


I saw Woodson scrimmage against South Lakes, and to me, Woodson looked like the better team. I'd say that result is mostly a function of Woodson being improved. The most surprising thing to me about that game was the low score. Woodson looks like they have some firepower on offense, so I am surprised that they only scored 17. Chantilly may be a bit down this year, as they lost a fair amount of talent from last year's senior class.

If you are a Wakefield fan, I think you have a good chance to bounce back next week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Question About SL ()
Date: September 04, 2016 12:41AM

Hows South Lakes gonna look this year? 8 regular season wins possible?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher X ()
Date: September 04, 2016 09:12AM

You need to consider the game in its entire context. BW played better and had more opportunities to score, but their TOs were in a much more important part of the field. Consider this as well:
Penalties: SC 21, BW 11
Personal fouls: SC 4, BW 1

You are cherry picking one aspect of the game. Your answer is the equivalent of analyzing the following: The stock market gained a total of 300 points on Mon-Tue this week, but lost a total of 25 points on Wed-Fri. Therefore, the market did not perform well this week because it lost on 3 of 5 days.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Woodson Dad ()
Date: September 04, 2016 09:28AM

Woodson is a much improved football team from a year ago. Are they good enough to beat Robinson this week? After watching the past two weeks I think Woodson has a great shot.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: w4CFC ()
Date: September 04, 2016 11:40AM

Watcher X Wrote:
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> You are cherry picking one aspect of the game.
> Your answer is the equivalent of analyzing the
> following: The stock market gained a total of 300
> points on Mon-Tue this week, but lost a total of
> 25 points on Wed-Fri. Therefore, the market did
> not perform well this week because it lost on 3 of
> 5 days.

Your answer is the equivalent of saying the stock market gained 25 points each day Monday-Thursday, but lost 105 on Friday. But since it gained points 4 out of 5 days it was a good week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 703 man ()
Date: September 04, 2016 06:26PM

Hell Yeah I expect Woodson to Massacre the rams after what I saw them do to Chantilly

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: robbie ()
Date: September 04, 2016 07:45PM

hahahah.... keep dreaming

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: woodson mom ()
Date: September 04, 2016 08:45PM

Woodson Moms know better, Robinson by 28, even Herndon will beat Chantilly this year..Relax..Wolfson will win 5.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 04, 2016 10:23PM

Woodson Dad Wrote:
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> Woodson is a much improved football team from a
> year ago. Are they good enough to beat Robinson
> this week? After watching the past two weeks I
> think Woodson has a great shot.


I don't see woodson beating Robinson. They'll finish 5-5, which is an improvement for them. They'll get wins against Chantilly, Fairfax, Annandale, Mt. Vernon, and TCW. West Springfield is a toss up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WSHS Fan ()
Date: September 04, 2016 10:53PM

Is Robinson that good or is West Springfield terrible? I heard Robinson scored touchdowns on their first 7 possessions. I hope it's that Robinson is very good or we could be in for a long season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Predicition ()
Date: September 05, 2016 03:17PM

Westfield beats SOCO 42-21, or loses 42-28.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tchdW ()
Date: September 05, 2016 04:01PM

Predicition Wrote:
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> Westfield beats SOCO 42-21, or loses 42-28.

I think South County will win this one - probably in the neighborhood of a 35-24 score.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Edison ()
Date: September 05, 2016 05:04PM

Edison is historically bad, even worse than under Randolph. The game against West Potomac will be a massacre.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: novafootballfan ()
Date: September 05, 2016 08:16PM

novafootballfan Wrote:
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> no spread but I will pick winners.

> Hayfield , Hayfield 67 - Edison 0
> Fairfax, Herndon 35 - Fairfax 20
> West Potomac, West Potomac 41 - Langley 12
> Mount Vernon, Mount Vernon 30 - Stuart 7
> W.T. Woodson, Woodson 17 - Chantilly 7
> Westfield, Westfield 45 - Washington-Lee 0
> Centreville, Centreville 42 - Annandale 0
> Falls Church, Eastern 24 - Falls Church 19
> John Paul the Great, John Paul the Great 39 - Thomas Jefferson 9
> Lake Braddock, Lake Braddock 63 - Lee 18
> South Lakes, South Lakes 49 - Marshall 8
> Oakton, Madison 33 - Oakton 10
> South County, South County 27 - Briar Woods 23
> Robinson, Robinson 49 - West Springfield 14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: September 06, 2016 07:53AM

You know I know we all know.....

It is all about Westfield.

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher X is a bold faced liar ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:01AM

SoCo did have a lot of penalties but not one of them was a personal foul. Briar woods had 1 personal foul. SoCo run defense was the reason Briar Woods did not score on most of their red zone chances. Briar Woods had about 2.5 yards per carry.

When people are biased they don't see clearly things like SoCo had over 520 yards total offense despite 190 yards in penalties and a big 40 yard TD called back on OL player 2 yards down field. To say Briar Woods outplayed South County is a big stretch. Being more objective, both of these teams looked pretty good to me. I live in Loudoun and have seen both Briar Woods games this year, Both BW opponents Tusky and SoCo have had over 20 penalties. BW seems to have a little bit of a home ref advantage but that seems normal in Nova.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: d6T4p ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:15AM

Watcher X is a bold faced liar Wrote:
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> SoCo did have a lot of penalties but not one of
> them was a personal foul. Briar woods had 1
> personal foul. SoCo run defense was the reason
> Briar Woods did not score on most of their red
> zone chances. Briar Woods had about 2.5 yards per
> carry.
>
> When people are biased they don't see clearly
> things like SoCo had over 520 yards total offense
> despite 190 yards in penalties and a big 40 yard
> TD called back on OL player 2 yards down field.
> To say Briar Woods outplayed South County is a big
> stretch. Being more objective, both of these teams
> looked pretty good to me. I live in Loudoun and
> have seen both Briar Woods games this year, Both
> BW opponents Tusky and SoCo have had over 20
> penalties. BW seems to have a little bit of a home
> ref advantage but that seems normal in Nova.

Look again. SC did have personal foul penalties. One was in the initial scrum that happened just minutes into the game (offsetting with a similar BW PF) and another was late in the game on the BW INT returned to the 4 yard line when the SC player horsecollared the runner-yes, that is a PF. And BW did outplay SC, but not by a lot, because BW had far more chances to score. Interestingly, you don't provide the total yards for BW, which would be good to know for comparison.

The only absolutely true things you said was that BW only had 1 PF (correct) and that both teams were quite good. However, I recently learned two key SC players were out with minor injuries, including the QB, so I would expect SC can perform a bit better in their upcoming games.

And get off the home cooking by the referees bandwagon. Refs just don't do that. Heck, they cannot even work a game where they have ties, like kids at the school, alma mater, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldoggie ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:22AM

You are missing the point, it is all about Westfield!

Winning

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Slow down ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:32AM

Westfield is always good, but before you crown them this year just remember a team that won 2 games in the last 2 seasons, Mount Vernon also beat the brakes off Washington Lee in week 1 scoring 44. Westfield is good but slow down just a little. They are who we thought they were.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 06, 2016 09:41AM

Westfield is always good, but before you crown them this year just remember a team that won 2 games in the last 2 seasons, Mount Vernon also beat the brakes off Washington Lee in week 1 scoring 44. Westfield is good but slow down just a little. They are who we thought they were.

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The idiot who keeps posting the "All about Westfield" and "Winning" posts is the same person, He's used Bulldog Booster, Bulldog Fan, Bulldoggie, and a number of other names but it's the same person. Best to just not respond to any of his posts and maybe he'll go away.You are correct, Westfield is always solid, one of the most successful program in NOVA since they opened. No one except the above mentioned troll is crowning them anything. They have a quality team again this year, offense is better than last year, defense slightly less stellar but still very good. They play a tough schedule this year, SOCO, Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, and Robinson will be their true tests. They should be back in the post season but to say they'll go undefeated is a stretch. They've got a target on them more so this year since they are the defending state champions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Truth Hurts WF ()
Date: September 06, 2016 10:14AM

Let's get things straight here. Soco had two personal fouls, and they didn't play a dirty game at all. Soco had 5 starters out, two on offense and three on defense, so they were missing a ton of talent. Had a ton of big plays called back (including a TD), had 21 penalties, and five turnovers. The fact that they even won was truly amazing and speaks volumes about their character. Most teams would of given up, and been okay with the loss.

With potentially four of the five starters back this week, it should be a different team. I like Soco early, but they need to be more discipline and not allow the refs to be a part of the game. BW's is a good team, but Soco and the refs made them a lot better.


d6T4p Wrote:
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> Watcher X is a bold faced liar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SoCo did have a lot of penalties but not one of
> > them was a personal foul. Briar woods had 1
> > personal foul. SoCo run defense was the reason
> > Briar Woods did not score on most of their red
> > zone chances. Briar Woods had about 2.5 yards
> per
> > carry.
> >
> > When people are biased they don't see clearly
> > things like SoCo had over 520 yards total
> offense
> > despite 190 yards in penalties and a big 40
> yard
> > TD called back on OL player 2 yards down field.
>
> > To say Briar Woods outplayed South County is a
> big
> > stretch. Being more objective, both of these
> teams
> > looked pretty good to me. I live in Loudoun and
> > have seen both Briar Woods games this year,
> Both
> > BW opponents Tusky and SoCo have had over 20
> > penalties. BW seems to have a little bit of a
> home
> > ref advantage but that seems normal in Nova.
>
> Look again. SC did have personal foul penalties.
> One was in the initial scrum that happened just
> minutes into the game (offsetting with a similar
> BW PF) and another was late in the game on the BW
> INT returned to the 4 yard line when the SC player
> horsecollared the runner-yes, that is a PF. And BW
> did outplay SC, but not by a lot, because BW had
> far more chances to score. Interestingly, you
> don't provide the total yards for BW, which would
> be good to know for comparison.
>
> The only absolutely true things you said was that
> BW only had 1 PF (correct) and that both teams
> were quite good. However, I recently learned two
> key SC players were out with minor injuries,
> including the QB, so I would expect SC can perform
> a bit better in their upcoming games.
>
> And get off the home cooking by the referees
> bandwagon. Refs just don't do that. Heck, they
> cannot even work a game where they have ties, like
> kids at the school, alma mater, etc.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: West i.e. Field ()
Date: September 06, 2016 12:26PM

I agree Westfield is the best team around here there's no doubt about that

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 06, 2016 12:31PM

Hey the previous poster is not the real Bulldog Booster I am.... Friends and fellow football fans don't let this weirdo confuse you I am bulldog booster and Westfield really is the best team of all time

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A Ranker of Football ()
Date: September 06, 2016 02:49PM

6A North Top 10

1. Westfield
2. South County
3. Robinson
4. Lake Braddock
5. Battlefield
6. Centreville
7. South Lakes
8. Madison
9. West Potomac
10. West Springfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 06, 2016 04:46PM

Real Bulldog Booster here, not the fake one. I think this list is correct but I think that Westfield is light years ahead of the rest of the teams in the region. Must be the blessing that our deity has bestowed upon us.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not Fake Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 06, 2016 05:34PM

No that guy is the fake one but I also think that Westfield is head and shoulders above the competition in the NR. Great team and best program ever!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 06, 2016 05:54PM

Well at least we agree to something - Westfield is the best.....winning

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rams Rule! ()
Date: September 06, 2016 06:15PM

Should be interesting this week for the Westfield secondary. Revenge will be on the minds of the SC folks. I imagine they are a little pissed from getting absolutely embarrassed in the regional final last year. From my limited time watching SC, they appear undisciplined and love to run their mouths. Although Westfield is usually disciplined, their QB last week got a 15YD unsportsmanlike penalty, which rarely happens at Westfild. If SC keeps there heads my money is on SC by 14. Westfield is overrated. Rams win Northern Region this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 06, 2016 06:18PM

6A Ranker of Football Wrote:
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> 6A North Top 10
>
> 1. Westfield
> 2. South County
> 3. Robinson
> 4. Lake Braddock
> 5. Battlefield
> 6. Centreville
> 7. South Lakes
> 8. Madison
> 9. West Potomac
> 10. West Springfield

I might put Hayfield at #10 rather than West Springfield, but other than that, I think this is a pretty good list.

Anyone care to do a 6A bottom ten?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 06, 2016 06:28PM

Rams Rule! Wrote:
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> Should be interesting this week for the Westfield
> secondary. Revenge will be on the minds of the SC
> folks. I imagine they are a little pissed from
> getting absolutely embarrassed in the regional
> final last year. From my limited time watching SC,
> they appear undisciplined and love to run their
> mouths. Although Westfield is usually disciplined,
> their QB last week got a 15YD unsportsmanlike
> penalty, which rarely happens at Westfild. If SC
> keeps there heads my money is on SC by 14.
> Westfield is overrated. Rams win Northern Region
> this year.


I love how Westfield returns just as much if not more talent than SOCO and had better Freshmen and JV programs but everyone thinks they'll lose by atleast 2 TDs. Unreal. I respect your Robinson prediction but you have no clear argument for why you picked SOCO. You just said something negative about them and stated that if they didn't do that than they would win by 2 TDs. Would I be surprised if SOCO won? No. But no team gets disrespected on these forums as much as Westfield. And as for those who can't tell the difference between the trolls and the real fans, use some common sense, it's not that hard to spot the troll.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A Ranker of Football ()
Date: September 06, 2016 07:14PM

NR fan Wrote:
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> 6A Ranker of Football Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 6A North Top 10
> >
> > 1. Westfield
> > 2. South County
> > 3. Robinson
> > 4. Lake Braddock
> > 5. Battlefield
> > 6. Centreville
> > 7. South Lakes
> > 8. Madison
> > 9. West Potomac
> > 10. West Springfield
>
> I might put Hayfield at #10 rather than West
> Springfield, but other than that, I think this is
> a pretty good list.

I was going to wait one more week before I put Hayfield in the top 10. But they very well may belong there. Wanna see how they fare vs Tuscarora.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:05PM

In fact I cannot believe how much you all listen to these trolls. Don't let them dissuade you from the reality that Westfield is the top team in the NR, maybe in the universe.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan Doppelgänger ()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:52PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> In fact I cannot believe how much you all listen
> to these trolls. Don't let them dissuade you from
> the reality that Westfield is the top team in the
> NR, maybe in the universe.

And to some they are:
http://usatodayhss.com/2016/super-25-week-3-regional-football-rankings-east#sthash.egErWFQU.uxfs&st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/pkC0tyG1ib

1. DeMatha, Hyattsville, Md. (2-0)
2. Mallard Creek, Charlotte, N.C. (3-0)
3. St. John’s College, Washington, D.C. (2-0)
4. St. Joseph Regional, Montvale, N.J. (1-0)
5. Westfield, Chantilly, Va. (1-0)
6. Xaverian Brothers, Westwood, Mass., (0-0)
7. Parkland, Allentown, Pa. (2-0)
8. St. Joseph’s Prep, Philadelphia (1-0)
9. Good Counsel, Olney, Md. (1-0)
10. St. Peter’s Prep, Jersey City, N.J. (1-0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO Nation ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:25AM

There will be revenge this Friday you pompous Westfield assholes

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Don't think so!! ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:57AM

Westfield gets a tough rap, but so does Soco and Braddock. All the good teams get the worst of it, just how it is. In my mind any talk is good talk, that means people fear you. Saw the Rams in a scrimmage this year, not impressed. They'll get better, but don't think they have the athletes on D to compete with some of the high powered offenses the region has to offer. They will lose in the final four again. A toss up between Braddock, Soco, and Westfield again this year.


Rams Rule! Wrote:
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> Should be interesting this week for the Westfield
> secondary. Revenge will be on the minds of the SC
> folks. I imagine they are a little pissed from
> getting absolutely embarrassed in the regional
> final last year. From my limited time watching SC,
> they appear undisciplined and love to run their
> mouths. Although Westfield is usually disciplined,
> their QB last week got a 15YD unsportsmanlike
> penalty, which rarely happens at Westfild. If SC
> keeps there heads my money is on SC by 14.
> Westfield is overrated. Rams win Northern Region
> this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Top Ten ()
Date: September 07, 2016 11:16AM

top tens are simply top ten, when the top 16 get in the play-offs what does top ten matter?

there will be 4-6 dominate teams that all will have an opportunity to get hot late and win it all.

Lake Braddock
south county
westfield
Robinson
Centreville
Battlefield

Westfield does not have a running game yet, missing two big pieces on offensive line, secondary will get burned this week if South County plays within themselves, this is the week to take down the Champs, will be far more difficult week 12-14.

Salisbury comes back from his 1-game suspension ready to play, look for some trickery with him and the Daniels kid also taking some reps, double passes, throw-backs, pulling out all the stops. Home field says SOCO wins, if Pannoni doesn't get out of his own way, his Team Looses!

Coaching will keep Westfield close.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfiled rulez ()
Date: September 07, 2016 12:20PM

Westfield in a cake walk

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO SUX ()
Date: September 07, 2016 02:01PM

Soco will get creamed by Wfield this week, mark it down. Pannoni blows.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 07, 2016 02:40PM

Agree, remember the beat down by Westfield over SOCO last year. Same this year....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 07, 2016 07:04PM

Watched the beatdown of W-L by Westfield. Yes they are the best again, they should just stop the season and crown them champs now. Winning.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:24PM

Westfield will lose to SoCo.. Spalding needs to get the workload

Briar Woods is A Fluke. Lucky to have Maffe breaking his own back to take them a few W's

Tuscarora looks like they will struggle this year. Once their guys get a little older, expect them to be back in the 5A picture.

Woodson's Up Tempo was simply too much for Chantilly. Tilly is too thin. Multiple guys playing both ways and special teams.

JoJo Heisley can escape the pocket, don't be fooled. They are not good, but will squeek in the playoffs with Chantilly.

Chantilly's fate remains in the hands of Thomas this year. They must have him with the ball for them to earn a week 11.

Westfield will return a lot. Centerville is the dark horse. I can not wait to see that one. Instant classic. Apparently Westfield is having some trouble with discipline and partying?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:34PM

VHSL Wrote:
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> Westfield will lose to SoCo.. Spalding needs to
> get the workload
>
> Briar Woods is A Fluke. Lucky to have Maffe
> breaking his own back to take them a few W's
>
> Tuscarora looks like they will struggle this year.
> Once their guys get a little older, expect them to
> be back in the 5A picture.
>
> Woodson's Up Tempo was simply too much for
> Chantilly. Tilly is too thin. Multiple guys
> playing both ways and special teams.
>
> JoJo Heisley can escape the pocket, don't be
> fooled. They are not good, but will squeek in the
> playoffs with Chantilly.
>
> Chantilly's fate remains in the hands of Thomas
> this year. They must have him with the ball for
> them to earn a week 11.
>
> Westfield will return a lot. Centerville is the
> dark horse. I can not wait to see that one.
> Instant classic. Apparently Westfield is having
> some trouble with discipline and partying?

They had some last year but it looks like they are clean so far.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vhsl proxy ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:35PM

Your about a year Late...

Spalding pouted on the Sidelines like a big prima Dona last week until he caught the big pass late..SOCO better feed him a lot and often..before he festors and pops!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Teller of the truth ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:38PM

Yep I have it on good info that Westfied program full of partying and other infractions. Sorry to see a program fall this way with the admin and parents turning the other way just to win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:45PM

I'm back! Easing my way in this season with a great slate of games.

Centreville (-21.0) @ Fairfax

Chantilly (-20.0) @ Lee

Falls Church @ Potomac Falls (-27.0)

Hayfield (-10.0) @ Tuscarora
*Let’s see if the 67-0 Edison game was a fluke or Hayfield is legit.

Lake Braddock (-40.0) @ Annandale

Langley @ Broad Run (-6.0)

Madison @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)
*I love this game, should be a good one.

McLean (-3.0) @ Marshall

Mount Vernon @ West Springfield (-14.0)

Robinson (-13.0) @ Woodson
*Test to see how far Woodson has come. Robinson’s offense should be too much but this has game of the week potential.

South Lakes @ Briar Woods (-10.0)
*Great test for South Lakes, this could be another great one.

Stuart @ Herndon (-35.0)
*Biggest spread I think I’ve ever given Herndon.

West Potomac (-42.0) @ Edison

Westfield (-7.0) @ South County
*This IS the game of the week. Should be a fantastic game.

Yorktown @ Wakefield (-1.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: teller of tales ()
Date: September 07, 2016 09:53PM

Clearly once again late to the Party..here is what Westfield is...Thinner at most positions, Down a few key lineman, still without a running back...here's what they aren't..poorly coached, lacking of integrity and partying excessively...Go back to Hoos Road and lift your Carpets...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: September 08, 2016 07:35AM

Welcome back Steve K


Centreville (-21.0) @ Fairfax
I'll go with Centreville on this

Chantilly (-20.0) @ Lee
Not enough on this. Lee is a bad, bad football team.

Falls Church @ Potomac Falls (-27.0)
Uh, Okay. I guess I'll take Falls Church and the points.


Hayfield (-10.0) @ Tuscarora
I think Hayfield is legit this week against a down Tuscarora squad.


Lake Braddock (-40.0) @ Annandale
That's probably about right. the margin will be determined by how much Braddock wants to give some reps to the backups vs. padding the starters stats.

Langley @ Broad Run (-6.0)
I'm going to go with Langley on this one.

Madison @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)
I'll take Stone Bridge

McLean (-3.0) @ Marshall
I'll take the home team.

Mount Vernon @ West Springfield (-14.0)
Depends, is Muskett playing? If so, then that's about right. If not, I'll take the Majors to go 3-0 and shock the Highway.


Robinson (-13.0) @ Woodson
Having seen Robinson in a scrimmage, I'm not convinced. I'll take Woodson here.


South Lakes @ Briar Woods (-10.0)
Brair Woods should win. Not sure it will be 10, though.

Stuart @ Herndon (-35.0)
Too many points given by a bad, bad football team. I'll take Stuart +35

West Potomac (-42.0) @ Edison
West Potomac's AD has been asked to send extra scoreboard lights on the bus. It's going to look like a pinball machine real fast.


Westfield (-7.0) @ South County
I think SC gets the monkey off their back here. Not to say what may or may not happen on down the road, but I think this week, they get it done.

Yorktown @ Wakefield (-1.0)
Yorktown by 6

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: September 08, 2016 07:44AM

I'll take my own stab at these predictions:

Steve K Wrote:
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> I'm back! Easing my way in this season with a
> great slate of games.
>
> Centreville (-21.0) @ Fairfax

That's about right

>
> Chantilly (-20.0) @ Lee

Agree

>
> Falls Church @ Potomac Falls (-27.0)

Don't know much about either team. 27 points seems a bit high, but Potomac Falls probably will win.

>
> Hayfield (-10.0) @ Tuscarora
> *Let’s see if the 67-0 Edison game was a fluke
> or Hayfield is legit.

I'll go with Hayfield, but I think Tusky covers.

>
> Lake Braddock (-40.0) @ Annandale

About right. Annandale is down this year.

>
> Langley @ Broad Run (-6.0)

I don't know what to make of Langley. I think this should be about a 2 TD spread

>
> Madison @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)
> *I love this game, should be a good one.

Agree with the spread

>
> McLean (-3.0) @ Marshall

Disagree. McLean lost badly to a not very good Annandale team. Marshall got crushed last week, but against South Lakes, the pre-season favorite to win Liberty. McLean will probably finish in the cellar of Liberty. Marshall should win this one outright, and by a TD.

>
> Mount Vernon @ West Springfield (-14.0)

Normally, I'd say this isn't enough of a spread, but Mt. Vernon may be for real this year, and West Springfield is a bit down.

>
> Robinson (-13.0) @ Woodson
> *Test to see how far Woodson has come.
> Robinson’s offense should be too much but this
> has game of the week potential.

Agree with that assessment. Woodson is going to be good this year, but not in Robinson's league.
>
> South Lakes @ Briar Woods (-10.0)
> *Great test for South Lakes, this could be another
> great one.

I'd expect Briar Woods to win, but not by 10.
>
> Stuart @ Herndon (-35.0)
> *Biggest spread I think I’ve ever given
> Herndon.

Too much of a spread here. I saw Fairfax v. Herndon last week. Herndon came out on top, but it was mostly due to mistakes made by Fairfax on offense at inopportune times. Herndon doesn't have much depth. They'll beat Stuart, but not by 35.
>
> West Potomac (-42.0) @ Edison

West Po will win. I don't like spreads higher than 35.
>
> Westfield (-7.0) @ South County
> *This IS the game of the week. Should be a
> fantastic game.

Yep.
>
> Yorktown @ Wakefield (-1.0)

Probably correct

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WSHS Fan ()
Date: September 08, 2016 08:41AM

> Robinson (-13.0) @ Woodson
> Having seen Robinson in a scrimmage, I'm not
> convinced. I'll take Woodson here.

As a West Springfield fan, we learned the hard way the Robinson doesn't show much in their scrimmages. From watching my sons film, it appeared that they only played their starters for about 1 quarter. If they aren't very good, we are in for a very long season at WSHS. I'll take Robinson by 30.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 08, 2016 09:40AM

All talk, no matter. It is all and only about Westfield. Other teams don't really add up to much.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SOCO Nation ()
Date: September 08, 2016 09:58AM

Eff Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jimmy the Greek ()
Date: September 08, 2016 09:58AM

not enough cigars in hell, so i'm back!

Centreville @ Fairfax, C-Ville by a ton, Haddock feels sympathetic to his old school so he wont beat them by 50+ but close!

Chantilly @ Lee, possibly 2 of the worst teams in NR, neither one deserves a Win...call it a draw

Falls Church @ Potomac Falls, Potomac Falls one of the hidden gems of Loudon County..this team has hung with the 5A powers, p-falls by 14+

Hayfield at Tusky...Hayfield by 10 although declining, tusky has enough talent to keep it close.

Langley at Broadrun, Broadrun gets back on track and runs all over Langley, look for Hembry to add 250+ yards to his area leading total, BR by 14

Madison at Stonebridge, look for Madison to lay a Big egg after the Oakton Upset, last year Madison ripped off 9-wins after Opening Oakton Loss, they just might Lose 9 in a row after Opening win at Oakton..Stone Bridge by 10!

Mclean at Marshall, these schools actually still have a football program, Marshall by 7 just for showing up.

Mount Vernon at West Springfield, could be the upset of the week, West Springfield is not that good! Mount Vernon by 3

Robinson at Woodson, this is the week the Woodson Folks stop smoking Crack...your not good, Robinson by 17+

Briar Woods @ South Lakes, look for Briar Woods to right the ship after a tough loss to SC last week, this game could be a track meet, Briar woods by 6.

Stuart at Herndon, Herndon will play down to the opponents level this week, escape with a narrow win, hold their heads high at 2-0 before losing 4 out of 5 in conference play, Herndon just might make the play-offs this year at 4-6, first round fodder for one of the big boys...

West Potomac at Edison, West Potomac pads some stats this week, win by 24+

Westfield at South County, Westfield, they do not have the power run game yet to control the ball/clock and keep South county offense of the field. If Johnson does not have 4+ TD passes south County wins. winner of turnovers, penalties and coaching gets the victory. certain to be a game of the week candidate.

Yorktown @ Wakefield, Yorktown by 10...really if you have the option, go see another game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: IP SPY ()
Date: September 08, 2016 10:02AM

Bulldog Booster/SOCO Nation poster above same Guy. get a life troll!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:17AM

What are you talking about - I have been a credible and positive poster on this site for a long time. Would you other guys stop playing these stupid games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:30AM

There is a troll that talks about Westfield winning all the time, that is not me I don't think even though I think Westfield is a winner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: QB is a mess!! ()
Date: September 08, 2016 02:51PM

What's up with Westfield's QB? That dude is the ugliest bastard I've ever seen!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 08, 2016 09:54PM

Tuscarora, Stone Bridge, Broad Run, Potomac Falls and Briar Woods will all win. You can't expect middle-of-the-pack (or worse) 6A teams to compete with the cream of the 5A crop. Only the top 6A teams (Lake Braddock, Robinson, Westfield, South County, Battlefield, Centreville) would be able to beat those 5. Madison beating SB last year was a fluke - I wouldn't expect that to happen again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: September 08, 2016 10:27PM

Hayfield over Tusky tomorrow
Stone Bridge over Madison in a tight one.
Briar Woods blows out South Lakes
Pot Falls destroys Falls Church
South County over Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF vs SOCO ()
Date: September 08, 2016 10:41PM

I see plenty of people picking SOCO over Westfield. That's totally fine because it's your prediction but it would be nice if you guys explained why a team that got blown out 40-0 and lost just as many players as Westfield did will all of a sudden be really good. I wouldn't be shocked if they won but damn you guys make it seem like SOCO is going to be the obvious winner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:15PM

WF vs SOCO Wrote:
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> I see plenty of people picking SOCO over
> Westfield. That's totally fine because it's your
> prediction but it would be nice if you guys
> explained why a team that got blown out 40-0 and
> lost just as many players as Westfield did will
> all of a sudden be really good. I wouldn't be
> shocked if they won but damn you guys make it seem
> like SOCO is going to be the obvious winner.

I think it probably because of the Spalding factor combined with Westfield's lack of size and speed in the defensive backfield. Plus some feel that Westfield is not as large and tough in the trenches as they were last year. I wouldn't be surprised if either team wins but I would be shocked if it is a blowout.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Devil man ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:26PM

Probably it's because most people think lying cheating Dixie cupping Westfield and their pact with the devil is about ready to run out

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:56PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> WF vs SOCO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I see plenty of people picking SOCO over
> > Westfield. That's totally fine because it's
> your
> > prediction but it would be nice if you guys
> > explained why a team that got blown out 40-0
> and
> > lost just as many players as Westfield did will
> > all of a sudden be really good. I wouldn't be
> > shocked if they won but damn you guys make it
> seem
> > like SOCO is going to be the obvious winner.
>
> I think it probably because of the Spalding factor
> combined with Westfield's lack of size and speed
> in the defensive backfield. Plus some feel that
> Westfield is not as large and tough in the
> trenches as they were last year. I wouldn't be
> surprised if either team wins but I would be
> shocked if it is a blowout.

Speed is definetly not an issue but size sure is. But then again, does anybody have a size advantage against Spalding? But yeah definetly not as large cause the team is a lot younger this year. And yes is could go either way and definetly won't be a blowout on either side. Maximum 10 points difference. And both these teams know that this isn't the match up that matters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5 v 6 ()
Date: September 09, 2016 12:08AM

Broad Run 28 Langley 3 - Wasn't really that close.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Psychology ()
Date: September 09, 2016 06:55AM

Can you Mentally withstand getting physically beat as bad as you did after thinking it was all yours, that's the question! take a long hard look Baloney, The Bulldogs are Coming! If you lose just keep walking!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 4jJVk ()
Date: September 09, 2016 09:47AM

QB is a mess!! Wrote:
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> What's up with Westfield's QB? That dude is the
> ugliest bastard I've ever seen!!

Very funny. But the WF QB can be a hothead. Everyone was busy trashing SoCo #4 that had the penalties at the end of the game last year – but seem to forget that #17 had an unsportsmanlike conduct personal foul in the game himself. And another one last week against W-L. Now both were after close to late hits but nonetheless…

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SoCo Can Do It ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:33AM

One of the biggest factors that people aren't discussing is the fact that Soco spent an entire off-season, and continue to currently, hear about the 40-8 loss in the state semi-final game. That is a huge game changer in the way they should of prepared for this moment all off-season.

Both teams will be ready to go, but Soco could have the edge if their coaches have prepared them to shut everyone up. I will be in attendance, and hope this game is as exciting and packed with fans as the Soco Braddock game was last year. It is week two, so Westfield might not be as interested to win this game as some think. The D-Coordinator for Westfield better have a good game plan!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: September 09, 2016 11:48AM

SoCo Can Do It Wrote:
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> Both teams will be ready to go, but Soco could
> have the edge if their coaches have prepared them
> to shut everyone up. I will be in attendance, and
> hope this game is as exciting and packed with fans
> as the Soco Braddock game was last year. It is
> week two, so Westfield might not be as interested
> to win this game as some think.

I think you are on to something there. My sense is that Westfield is not that jacked up for the game. I really doubt they will travel that well today - I heard they aren't even going to take a pep band to the event.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: occassional watcher of fOOTBALL ()
Date: September 09, 2016 12:57PM

Yes, Westfield will definitely lose because without their Rose Bowl Band, they are nothing! just keep the Horse Shit off the Field, wouldn't want Spalding to lose a Cleat and Slip in it, and let the Young Men Play...the Winner will be decided on the field! SOLO CUPS For ALL Afterwards!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 02:31PM

All this is just talk, Westfield players are God's special chosen children.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 03:34PM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> SoCo Can Do It Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Both teams will be ready to go, but Soco could
> > have the edge if their coaches have prepared
> them
> > to shut everyone up. I will be in attendance,
> and
> > hope this game is as exciting and packed with
> fans
> > as the Soco Braddock game was last year. It is
> > week two, so Westfield might not be as
> interested
> > to win this game as some think.
>
> I think you are on to something there. My sense
> is that Westfield is not that jacked up for the
> game. I really doubt they will travel that well
> today - I heard they aren't even going to take a
> pep band to the event.

I also don't think their student section will be that big for this game either. Nobody really seems to care about this matchup in the Westfield community as much as SOCO community cares about it. That could be the difference this game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 04:19PM

This is because we at Westfield are special, the teams around here are below us and we know that we are superior to everyone else. God Bless us, winning.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rams Rule! ()
Date: September 09, 2016 05:10PM

VHSL just cancelled the WHS vs SCO game, they said Westfield was going to win anyway, so there was no point in playing the game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 05:21PM

There is some talk that VHSL might cancel the entire season and just give the championship to Westfield given their stellar play, wonderful stature in the community, and all around good looks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Robbie ()
Date: September 09, 2016 08:15PM

Robo 31- Woodson
7 at the half.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 09:44PM

Westfield won 17-13, it got tight near the end. I wasn't in attendance so can someone tell me if Westfield's 2 O-Linemen and Running Back are back?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fanbiy ()
Date: September 09, 2016 09:56PM

Went to the game, both Westfield and SOCO vastly overrated.....I think this year is now wide open between those two but also Lake Braddock, Robinson, and Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Have to agree ()
Date: September 09, 2016 09:59PM

Agree - was expecting more out of South County and even more out of Westfield. Westfield as usual better coached but these teams are definitely not unbeatable (we already saw that with SOCO tonight).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kicking Problem ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:04PM

Why is one of the best kickers in the state missing multiple easy field goals like that?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NOVA FOOTBALL ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:07PM

Have to agree Wrote:
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> Agree - was expecting more out of South County and
> even more out of Westfield. Westfield as usual
> better coached but these teams are definitely not
> unbeatable (we already saw that with SOCO
> tonight).


Of course nobody is unbeatable. Only 3 NR teams in the last 16 years were "unbeatable", Westfield '03 and '07, and Centre ville '13. Nobody other than the troll said that Westfield is unbeatable.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: no problems ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:29PM

Delaney is not a FG kicker...He is a kick-off Specialist and a phenomenal punter...Who has the strongest leg in the Region therefore they use him to kick Field Goals...he's 1 for 6 Vs. Oscar Smith and South County..Could be Worse...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: injury report ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:37PM

Westfield did not have their 2 big lineman nor their Running back...were 1-14 in the passing Game and it still wasn't close..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Capt. Morgan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:42PM

When will the doubters stop. All aboard the WHS train!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:44PM

RydellllRoad Wrote:
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> Tuscarora, Stone Bridge, Broad Run, Potomac Falls
> and Briar Woods will all win. You can't expect
> middle-of-the-pack (or worse) 6A teams to compete
> with the cream of the 5A crop. Only the top 6A
> teams (Lake Braddock, Robinson, Westfield, South
> County, Battlefield, Centreville) would be able to
> beat those 5. Madison beating SB last year was a
> fluke - I wouldn't expect that to happen again.

Well, I will eat my crow and admit I was flat out wrong. I took in the Stone Bridge - Madison game and I have to say Madison impressed the heck out of me.

Their offensive and defensive line play was superb - even though they were relatively undersized on both lines compared to SB - their lineman made up for that by being tougher and more athletic. SB was big but their lineman were slow and not as athletic as Madison. Madison held their own at times and dominated at times. SB had maybe one offensive drive where their line had the upper hand. Madison was just tougher and more physical throughout the game.

MAD defense stopped SB on a 3 and out first drive and then executed a dominating 7 minute drive down the field to go up 6-0. Xtr pt was missed.

SB eventually capitalized on a MAD defensive breakdown to score on a long pass play. 2pt convert made it 8-6.

SB opened the second half by recovering their onside kick and had all the momentum. But MAD stopped SB on 4th down and put together another impressive drive to go up 12-8. Didn't make 2pt attempt.

After a botched snap on a MAD FG attempt, SB ran their way into the end zone for a 15-12 lead.

MAD then drove the length of the field only to fumble it away in the red zone.

Then MAD forced a SB Bridge fumble but couldn't capitalize.

The MAD punt pinned SB inside their 5 and SB was subsequently forced to punt. MAD got the ball back at the 50 yard line down 15-12 with about 2:35 left in the game. First play was a well-executed hook-and-ladder play that went for 25 yards. MAD punched it in and the score went to 19-15.

MAD then forced SB out on downs - helped by a -15 sack by #5.

SB was plagued by poor kick coverage in this game while MAD suffered from untimely penalties and mishandled snaps/fumbles.

Suffice to say Hayfield and South Lakes are probably the only teams remaining on the MAD schedule that have a shot at beating them. It was a great win for Madison football and a great game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 10:48PM

Ah you stupid haters and doubters - we told you, Westfield is good, they are great, in fact perhaps the best school to ever play high school football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 09, 2016 11:13PM

South Lakes over Briar Woods. Hayfield over Tuscarora. What happened to Loudoun? Are they down or is Fairfax up? From my take on the SB-MAD game it would be both.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A 13 ()
Date: September 09, 2016 11:32PM

Herndon loses to Stuart in a barnburner, arena style football game 50-46. Stuart comes back from down 12 late and recover an onside kick in final minute to win the game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 09, 2016 11:40PM

NR Fanbiy Wrote:
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> Went to the game, both Westfield and SOCO vastly
> overrated.

Both teams have a lot of room for improvement offensively. The big news was that Spalding left the game in the third quarter after hurting his hand, it actually kind of worked out for them since they moved the starting QB to receiver and the backup QB threw two long touchdown passes to another kid, but they are going to need Spalding as the season goes on.

Mount Vernon won at West Springfield and they could be 6-0 going into the South County game.

TJ lost 50-12 against some charter school from DC. Not the football factory charter school, just some random dudes. Might as well drop football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 09, 2016 11:53PM

Is it true that the Sophomore cornerback from Westfield put the clamps on Spalding?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Free ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:02AM

Joey Free, the senior corner shut Spaulding down, the sophomore didn't really do much other than a nice stop on a bubble screen. I can't believe SOCO threw so little, it was almost as if they were trying to pound the ball and use swing passes and forgot their passing game. I think the backup QB for SOCO is better than the starter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: william Wallace ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:49AM

Spalding is not "sneaking" up on anyone , what a shinny prima Dona, every play Crying to the Ref, proud to be the #1 WR in VA and the #5 on the East Coast...start playing like it and quit whinning like a little Bitch.." No one knows how hard I work" well we all know how hard you Whine...!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Prima Dona ()
Date: September 10, 2016 01:03AM

william Wallace Wrote:
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> Spalding is not "sneaking" up on anyone , what a
> shinny prima Dona, every play Crying to the Ref,
> proud to be the #1 WR in VA and the #5 on the East
> Coast...start playing like it and quit whinning
> like a little Bitch.." No one knows how hard I
> work" well we all know how hard you Whine...!

Kinda hard not to whine when your squad is getting shut down by undersized white boys

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fan bulldog ()
Date: September 10, 2016 02:17AM

injury report Wrote:
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> Westfield did not have their 2 big lineman nor
> their Running back...were 1-14 in the passing Game
> and it still wasn't close..


They did have their running back...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: watch your mouth, nigger ()
Date: September 10, 2016 08:35AM

Prima Dona Wrote:
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> william Wallace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Spalding is not "sneaking" up on anyone , what
> a
> > shinny prima Dona, every play Crying to the
> Ref,
> > proud to be the #1 WR in VA and the #5 on the
> East
> > Coast...start playing like it and quit whinning
> > like a little Bitch.." No one knows how hard I
> > work" well we all know how hard you Whine...!
>
> Kinda hard not to whine when your squad is getting
> shut down by undersized white boys
______________________________________________
Who you calling white boys, you ugly nigger?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Lake Braddock Monster Man ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:04AM

Just watched the Westfield South County game - I think both teams are down as compared to last year. Cannot wait to get at both of them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:21AM

Went to the game, both Westfield and SOCO vastly overrated

Agree - was expecting more out of South County and even more out of Westfield

Just watched the Westfield South County game - I think both teams are down as compared to last year

Here we go once more. This all sounds so familiar. Déjà vu all over again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Westfield FB Watcher ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:01AM

I don't really think either of these teams are overyhyped, think both just looked like teams playing their second regular season opponent. The unfortunate thing for both was that they were playing a quality team so it looked a bit sloppy. The supposed Lake Braddock poster above should keep his mouth shut, either one of these teams are going beat the Bruins. The game didn't really come close to the hype that was built. It was a good close game but should not have been. Delaney makes those 3 missed FG's and it's not even close down the stretch. Westfield was missing two massive O-lineman so that will help because Jihnson's 1-11 performance behind center was embarrassing. He either got hurt or was just was rushing everything due to poor pass blocking from his line. Thought on one of his passes it could have been a completion if his 6'4 receiver would have dove for the ball, kids going D1 and he doesn't stretch out for a pass. Westfield also has a special RB who's a sophomore but has yet to play yet. If he performs as many think he can their offense will truly benefit, especially I'd Johnson can fix whatever his problem was last night. On defense Westfield is sound but not as much as last year. Their interior line is susceptible, good thing they've got good LB's. Jewell is a beast at D-end but for some reason they pulled Rivers from playing primarily D-end to OLB. He along with Jewell are the best players on that D-line, if they both are rushing the QB That would benefit the Bulldog secondary which is their weakness. Free is a very good player but that's it. The other CB is small, undersized, and not strong at all, both of their safeties are slow, although number 12 hits like a ton of bricks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:04AM

Lets make this a Westfield site as they are the only team to talk about, the only team worth talking about

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:07AM

We in the dixie cup committee will ratchet down next week's activities before the game since the team was a bit wobbly this week. Sorry fellow fans, we will modulate now that summer is over.

Signed
Yours truly

Westfield Dixie Cup Convocation Committee

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Westfield FB Watcher ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:09AM

Agree let us turn this into a Westfield only site, it is almost already!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fan bulldog ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:13AM

I agree

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR FootballFan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:24AM

A lot of poppycock going on in this site. Anyway, I was at the SOCO/WESTF game last night too. And I must say - also was not overly impressed with either team. SOCO still not coached well enough to take advantage of their talent. And Westfield - some interesting pieces but meh not nearly dominant. Disagree with above poster that this was only second game. Time to show the region what you got. The other poster above cited two past Westfield teams and the recent Cville team that were juggernauts from start to finish - everyone knew it. These two teams are not nearly those. I think the NR is for the taking amongst those two teams of course but also LB, Robn, Battlefield, Cville, maybe even South Lakes and Hayfield. Going to be an interesting fall.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FFX Rankings ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:26AM

1. Westfield
2. Lake Braddock
3. South County
4. West Potomac
5. Madison
6. Robinson
7. Centreville
8. South Lakes
9. Hayfield
10. Mount Vernon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR FootballFan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:29AM

Oh and a shout out to Madison who walloped Stone Bridge last night and South Lakes over Briar Woods and Hayfield over Tuscarora. Maybe time for the Loudon loudmouths to tone down a bit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 11:03AM

NR FootballFan Wrote:
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> Oh and a shout out to Madison who walloped Stone
> Bridge last night and South Lakes over Briar Woods
> and Hayfield over Tuscarora. Maybe time for the
> Loudon loudmouths to tone down a bit.


I think it's starting to become clear that Liberty is going to shake out as a big three/little five conference. One of Hayfield, Madison, or South Lakes will win the conference, and all three should make the playoffs. Liberty probably can get a 4th team in the playoffs (but probably no more than that), so it will be interesting to see who emerges from the Fairfax/Langley/McLean/W-L/Yorktown scrum at the bottom.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Burke Rules ()
Date: September 10, 2016 11:09AM

Y'all be sleeping on how good Lake Braddock and Robinson actually are this year. Game of the week coming up for the NR Championship - LB Vs. Robinson on Friday. Westfield and Soco just poseurs this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cy6kX ()
Date: September 10, 2016 11:51AM

NR FootballFan Wrote:
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> Oh and a shout out to Madison who walloped Stone
> Bridge last night and South Lakes over Briar Woods
> and Hayfield over Tuscarora. Maybe time for the
> Loudon loudmouths to tone down a bit.


Loudoun deserves a little abuse no doubt. All that talk about how Fairfax Co. doesn't have the demographics to play football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:00PM

Lake Braddock fans talking trash about Westfield again? When will they learn?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is God ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:39PM

and God is Westfield. We walk with the angels, come with no fault, make the world a better place just be being alive.

Westfield = Greatness

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield's Secondary ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:43PM

Yes they aren't as good as last year, but they aren't as bad as people said they were. They have the one good senior CB. I'm pretty sure the other DBs biggest problem is experience. They did a lot better against SOCO than I thought they would do. Teams that only have one dangerous receiver shouldn't really be threatening at all to the secondary. Like always Westfield should get better as the year goes, especially this year because biggest concern is inexperience (Johnson at QB, and multiple small defenders). Any idea when Asante will come back? How about the linemen?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is everything ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:46PM

Westfield is everything, the only thing, all the things.

WESTFIELD = LIFE

All Westfield all the time

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:47PM

WESTFIELD
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WESTFIELD
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suck my dick

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD POOP DOES NOT SMELL ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:48PM

This just out....

Word is that Westfield poop is actually less smelly than those of other teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is God ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:49PM

Westfield is GOD, Godly, Godliness, Good

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WEST - FIELD ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:49PM

GET OFF THE EAST FIELD, JOIN THE WEST FIELD

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FIELD WEST ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:50PM

Any way you say it front or back, still the best, the only team worth talking about

WEST FIELD

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD COACHES ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:51PM

It all starts with you coaches, you're the best the ringleaders, the ones allowing us to be the best but also dixie cup and lie and cheat too.

LOVE YA

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD PARENTS ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:52PM

Shout out to you too parents, thanks for always looking the other way with our transgressions.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is winning ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:52PM

Westfield

WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I really hope ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:53PM

I am looking forward to these pompous Westfield assholes getting their asses kicked and would love to see multiple teams do it. The pact with the devil - terms are about to run out.

Go Herndon, Chantilly, others.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD IS LIFE ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:54PM

WESTFIELD IS THE MEANING OF LIFE

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTERLY FLOW TO THE BREEZE ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:55PM

Ever notice the breeze is freshest when there is a westerly flow. We are god chosen.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD DIXIE DANCE ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:56PM

And we even hold sanctioned dixie cup parties and still get away with it....ha has ha ha

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I am calling on other team ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:57PM

I am calling on Robinson, Battlefield, Lake Braddock, South Lakes, Centreville, Hayfield, others - beat these Westfield pompous assholes.

What a fucking joke of a bunch of people over there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: POMPOUS ()
Date: September 10, 2016 12:58PM

WESTFIELD = POMPOUS = the shit will hit the fan when the devil turns to a new suitor

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: September 10, 2016 01:44PM

God bless America.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Trolled by Wildcat fans ()
Date: September 10, 2016 01:46PM

I am calling on other team Wrote:
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> I am calling on Robinson, Battlefield, Lake
> Braddock, South Lakes, Centreville, Hayfield,
> others - beat these Westfield pompous assholes.
>
> What a fucking joke of a bunch of people over
> there.


dude, you're being trolled by a bunch of high school nerds. that's the fucking joke.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: times are changin' ()
Date: September 10, 2016 01:51PM

Oakton loses 20-7 to TC Williams. Now 0-2, and has been outscored 53-17 in two games. Will they win any games this year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Peanut Head ()
Date: September 10, 2016 01:53PM

times are changin' Wrote:
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> Oakton loses 20-7 to TC Williams. Now 0-2, and
> has been outscored 53-17 in two games. Will they
> win any games this year?


Used to be a powerhouse before all the dinks moved into the area. Now it's full of dinks and arabs. How the might cougar has fallen

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Demographics ()
Date: September 10, 2016 02:13PM

I don't know where to get the info but can someone compare Oakton's and Westfield's demographics and student membership for me. Cause it looks like Oakton's is a lot better for sports in general.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football ()
Date: September 10, 2016 03:44PM

times are changin' Wrote:
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> Oakton loses 20-7 to TC Williams. Now 0-2, and
> has been outscored 53-17 in two games. Will they
> win any games this year?


Not until Herndon and Falls Church appear on the schedule. Relocation has destroyed that football program, and allowed for others to thrive. An example of this would be South Lakes who has became one of the area's top programs. Oakton probably would be suited off better in the Liberty Conference, but they'd still struggle there. Hard to believe that 10 years ago they were State Champs, just 4 years ago region champs, and now can't even compete with teams like T.C. Williams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FCPS WEBSITE ()
Date: September 10, 2016 03:46PM

Demographics Wrote:
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> I don't know where to get the info but can someone
> compare Oakton's and Westfield's demographics and
> student membership for me. Cause it looks like
> Oakton's is a lot better for sports in general.

FCPS Website is not a bad place to look - below are last year's numbers (2015-2016)

Oakton (Enrollment: 2411)
White – 53%
Asian – 27%
Hispanic – 10%
Black – 5%

Westfield (Enrollment: 2599)
White – 41%
Asian – 21%
Hispanic – 21%
Black – 12 %

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 04:03PM

FCPS WEBSITE Wrote:
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> Demographics Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't know where to get the info but can
> someone
> > compare Oakton's and Westfield's demographics
> and
> > student membership for me. Cause it looks like
> > Oakton's is a lot better for sports in general.
>
> FCPS Website is not a bad place to look - below
> are last year's numbers (2015-2016)
>
> Oakton (Enrollment: 2411)
> White – 53%
> Asian – 27%
> Hispanic – 10%
> Black – 5%
>
> Westfield (Enrollment: 2599)
> White – 41%
> Asian – 21%
> Hispanic – 21%
> Black – 12 %

Thanks. Obviously the demographics are very different but I'm surprised that Oakton isn't doing better. They don't have to be a state championship contender year in and year out but I'd expect them to atleast put up a decent fight against the other Concorde district schools. Additionally, Westfield's numbers surprised me. Thought they had more Whites and Blacks and less Hispanics. When I went to school there 9 years ago we had a lot more white people, and a lot more people in general (3000ish). Anyone know what happen to their numbers?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield DIXIE DANCE ()
Date: September 10, 2016 04:21PM

Numbers schmumbers - as a fellow Westfield grad you should realize Westfield is just simply better regardless of percentage breakdown

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fun Facts ()
Date: September 10, 2016 05:57PM

South County ran the ball 45 times. One carry went for 24 yards. Not a single of of the other 44 carries went for over 10 yards. Westfield's defense held one of the states most dynamic offenses to 13 points with almost no help from their offense and despite the fact that they have many young players. Looks to me that the defense is in for another big year. They could break the previous Westfield record for least points allowed in one season. The 2002 team allowed 124 points in 11 games, and the 2007 team allowed 132 points in 15 games. If their O-Line and RB get healthy, watch out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is awesome ()
Date: September 10, 2016 06:55PM

They are so special

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: September 10, 2016 07:35PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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>
> Thanks. Obviously the demographics are very
> different but I'm surprised that Oakton isn't
> doing better. They don't have to be a state
> championship contender year in and year out but
> I'd expect them to atleast put up a decent fight
> against the other Concorde district schools.
> Additionally, Westfield's numbers surprised me.
> Thought they had more Whites and Blacks and less
> Hispanics. When I went to school there 9 years ago
> we had a lot more white people, and a lot more
> people in general (3000ish). Anyone know what
> happen to their numbers?

South Lakes redistricting (half of Floris ES) and aging in place in the 90s/early 00s developments (Virginia Run, etc.) cut Westfield's numbers. The SL redistricting also cut Oakton's numbers (all of Fox Mill ES). With the addition of Fox Mill ES and half of Floris ES South Lakes became competitive.

Redistricting in FCPS is all about bad data supporting bad projections in the name of "balancing demographics" (unless, of course, it's Langley). And, when FCPS screws up the projections too much - as they seriously did with both Westfield when built and the South Lakes redistricting - the taxpayers of Fairfax County get asked to pay for shiny new additions to the receiving schools.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 07:54PM

WestfieldDad Wrote:
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> Football Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Thanks. Obviously the demographics are very
> > different but I'm surprised that Oakton isn't
> > doing better. They don't have to be a state
> > championship contender year in and year out but
> > I'd expect them to atleast put up a decent
> fight
> > against the other Concorde district schools.
> > Additionally, Westfield's numbers surprised me.
> > Thought they had more Whites and Blacks and
> less
> > Hispanics. When I went to school there 9 years
> ago
> > we had a lot more white people, and a lot more
> > people in general (3000ish). Anyone know what
> > happen to their numbers?
>
> South Lakes redistricting (half of Floris ES) and
> aging in place in the 90s/early 00s developments
> (Virginia Run, etc.) cut Westfield's numbers. The
> SL redistricting also cut Oakton's numbers (all of
> Fox Mill ES). With the addition of Fox Mill ES
> and half of Floris ES South Lakes became
> competitive.
>
> Redistricting in FCPS is all about bad data
> supporting bad projections in the name of
> "balancing demographics" (unless, of course, it's
> Langley). And, when FCPS screws up the
> projections too much - as they seriously did with
> both Westfield when built and the South Lakes
> redistricting - the taxpayers of Fairfax County
> get asked to pay for shiny new additions to the
> receiving schools.

Thanks for the explanation. I knew about the Floris redistricting but I thought that it would at max affect 150-200 kids. This also explains how South Lakes became competitive and how Oakton declined. Now they're gonna waste money on expanding South Lakes while a school that is very nearby is about 500 kids under capacity. Sounds like FCPS lol.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Major Man ()
Date: September 10, 2016 08:15PM

Talent is cyclical. Mount Vernon played in the regional championship twice in the early 2000s. They are now 3-0 including a win last night against West Springfield. Many will say that the Spartans are down this year but after a few years of down MV seasons, I say that the Majors are back.

Go Majors

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Man ()
Date: September 10, 2016 08:45PM

Ok, that is great Major Man but realize this site is about Westfield, the only team that matters.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldoggie ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:04PM

All Bulldogs all the time....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Major Man ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:43PM

Westfield Man Wrote:
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> Ok, that is great Major Man but realize this site
> is about Westfield, the only team that matters.


OK, crown the champions now. Basketball practice starts Monday.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTfield Man ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:50PM

THATS RIGHT JUST REALIZE IT IS ALL ABOUT WESTFIELD!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 10, 2016 09:53PM

WESTFIELD IS TRUTH IS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS LOVE IS SUPERIORITY IS WINNING

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:15PM

If you are not a Westfield fan you are a deplorable loser!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tvEc6 ()
Date: September 10, 2016 10:52PM

I am calling on other team Wrote:
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> I am calling on Robinson, Battlefield, Lake
> Braddock, South Lakes, Centreville, Hayfield,
> others - beat these Westfield pompous assholes.


I have my eye on Centreville. They have had two very impressive wins that show they have their act together this year. If they can beat Broad Run and Tuscarora that will confirm they are back. I predict they will win those two games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruhh ()
Date: September 10, 2016 11:49PM

Jesus what's wrong with Oakton 0-2, God Damn what's happening don't they have two D-1 Lineman plus there JV program did pretty good last year,I think it's time for Rowley to step down so they can restore that program to it's former glory

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 11, 2016 12:23AM

Bruhh Wrote:
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> Jesus what's wrong with Oakton 0-2, God Damn
> what's happening don't they have two D-1 Lineman
> plus there JV program did pretty good last year,I
> think it's time for Rowley to step down so they
> can restore that program to it's former glory


If you think this is bad wait till they play C'Ville, Robo, and Westfield. Those could get ugly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruhh 2 ()
Date: September 11, 2016 02:19AM

Yeah i can't imagine we'll looks like there going 2-8 this season, such a shame they actually did pretty good last year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: MN3Nx ()
Date: September 11, 2016 07:59AM

tvEc6 Wrote:
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> I am calling on other team Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am calling on Robinson, Battlefield, Lake
> > Braddock, South Lakes, Centreville, Hayfield,
> > others - beat these Westfield pompous assholes.
>
>
> I have my eye on Centreville. They have had two
> very impressive wins that show they have their act
> together this year. If they can beat Broad Run
> and Tuscarora that will confirm they are back. I
> predict they will win those two games.

Centreville's wins were against really bad teams (Fairfax and Annandale). They did score a lot of points but they should have scored a lot in those games. Broad Run and Tuscarora will be a step up but neither team is as good this year as they have been historically. They should win both of those games also. Until CV is tested (Lake Braddock in week 5) we won't really know how good they are. They should get past Oakton (down this year again) and Herndon is another terrible team so if they manage to beat Lake Braddock then the potential for a matchup of 8-0 teams when they play Westfield 21 Oct is there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yDNNL ()
Date: September 11, 2016 08:00AM

Sorry, should have said 7-0 teams for the CV-WF matchup in the previous post.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Think about this ()
Date: September 11, 2016 08:06AM

I have my eye on Centreville. They have had two very impressive wins that show they have their act together this year. If they can beat Broad Run and Tuscarora that will confirm they are back. I predict they will win those two games.

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I wouldn't get my hopes up, Centreville has a couple players, that's it. I'm sure they'll win those Loudon County match ups, look at this past weekend. Tuscarora, Briar Woods, and Stone Bridge all lost to Fairfax County teams. The Loudon schools have had their football powers thinned out due to the addition of a couple new high schools. Look what happened to Briar Woods last year when Rockridge opened, BW's didn't have a down season, their talent was diminished due to a new high school. That's slowly happening to some of the other schools. Getting back to Centreville, they'll be decent but that's about it, might be some time before they're great again, if ever. Lake Braddock, Robinson, SOCO, Battlefield, and Westfield are the teams to consider when talking about the best in 6A in the North

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 11, 2016 09:18AM

Centreville (-21.0) @ Fairfax
*Centreville won 55-6. It looks like the Wildcats are going to be much improved as compared to last year.

Chantilly (-20.0) @ Lee
*Chantilly won 42-19.

Falls Church @ Potomac Falls (-27.0)
*Potomac Falls won 46-14, pretty close here

Hayfield (-10.0) @ Tuscarora
*Hayfield won 26-20, Hawks look like a legitimate threat for the Liberty this year.

Lake Braddock (-40.0) @ Annandale
*Lake Braddock won 52-7.

Langley @ Broad Run (-6.0)
*Broad Run won big, score not posted on allmet

Madison @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)
*Madison won 19-15, Warhawks coming out of the gate strong too. I think the Liberty at the top is going to be as competitive as it has in quite some time between Hayfield, Madison and South Lakes.

McLean (-3.0) @ Marshall
*Marshall won 21-6. Good bounce back for Marshall and McLean might now win a game this year.

Mount Vernon @ West Springfield (-14.0)
*The Spartans have fallen, Mount Vernon won 37-25. Mount Vernon should be very proud of their start.

Robinson (-13.0) @ Woodson
*Robinson dominated this game 45-7. Sets up an incredible Lake Braddock-Robinson match up next week!

South Lakes @ Briar Woods (-10.0)
*South Lakes wins 28-21.

Stuart @ Herndon (-35.0)
*I am embarrassed by this, my worst spread in my 7+ years doing this. Props to Stuart who scored 2 touchdowns the final 3 minutes to win 50-46 against the Hornets.

West Potomac (-42.0) @ Edison
*West Potomac won 60-7.

Westfield (-7.0) @ South County
*Westfield won 17-13, great defensive performance by the Bulldogs.

Yorktown @ Wakefield (-1.0)
*Wakefield has fallen off losing 35-0 Yorktown.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: why are you all still trying ()
Date: September 11, 2016 09:26AM

Everyone stop trying to talk about other teams, it is only about Westfield - figure it out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 11, 2016 09:29AM

Several great games on tap for week 4!

Briar Woods @ West Potomac (-3.0)
*I believe this is the first ever matchup between these schools and it should be a great game.

Centreville (-10.0) @ Broad Run
*This is a tough one to predict, this could be a close game but I’m impressed by Centreville’s early scores.

Edison @ Marshall (-14.0)
*Edison has been outscored 127-7 in their first two games against strong opponents.

Herndon (-8.5) @ Falls Church
*I think Herndon bounces back after an extremely disappointing loss.

Lee @ West Springfield (-16.0)

McLean @ Madison (-35.0)

Oakton @ Tuscarora (-13.0)

Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley

Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock
*This atmosphere is second to none and should be a great matchup between unbeaten. This is high school football at its finest in NOVA.

South County (-7.0) @ Hayfield
*This will be a fascinating matchup and it will tell me a lot about the status of both of these programs.

Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Chantilly

Stuart @ Annandale (-1.0)

TC Williams @ Westfield (-28.0)

Woodson (-17.0) @ Fairfax

Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-6.0)

Yorktown @ South Lakes (-17.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 11, 2016 10:10AM

I watched Centreville and they are a decent pop Warner youth team...wasbeens trying to re capture...they flat out SUCK and never will be any more good...wuit trying to hype a,shitty team

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hNh9F ()
Date: September 11, 2016 10:38AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Langley @ Broad Run (-6.0)
> *Broad Run won big, score not posted on allmet

If I can't find scores I usually check maxpreps. They aren't always 100% accurate but usually they are. T'was 28-3

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/broad-run-spartans-(ashburn,va)/football/schedule.htm

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: causal fan ()
Date: September 11, 2016 10:48AM

Steve K,
I just checked your spread and the results from week 3.
I have to give you credit. Your spreads, with a few exceptions, were pretty darn good. That is quite impressive for high school football.
Kudos to you.
You should work for the Post and they should let you put your spreads in there every Friday morning. The kids would love it!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mimis place ()
Date: September 11, 2016 10:52AM

Wow, Steve K, Robinson by 6 at Lake Braddock.
I thought you would have the home team by 3-6 in that one.
We'll see how it goes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 11, 2016 11:10AM

causal fan Wrote:
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> Steve K,
> I just checked your spread and the results from
> week 3.
> I have to give you credit. Your spreads, with a
> few exceptions, were pretty darn good. That is
> quite impressive for high school football.
> Kudos to you.
> You should work for the Post and they should let
> you put your spreads in there every Friday
> morning. The kids would love it!

Steve K has been very good for a long time - I kept track of his picks last year (2015) including playoffs:

He was 158-32 picking winners. And he was 99-87-4 covering his spread.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yHy4K ()
Date: September 11, 2016 12:10PM

mimis place Wrote:
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> Wow, Steve K, Robinson by 6 at Lake Braddock.
> I thought you would have the home team by 3-6 in
> that one.
> We'll see how it goes.

Robinson vs Lake Braddock this century:

2000 ROB 27 - LB 3
2001 ROB 35 – LB 18
2002 ROB 42 – LB 6
2003 ROB 35 – LB 3
2004 ROB 42 – LB 0
2005 ROB 48 – LB 0
2006 ROB 14 – LB 6
2007 ROB 21 – LB 0
2008 ROB 26 – LB 7
2009 ROB 28 – LB 21
2010 ROB 10 – LB 7
2011 ROB 24 – LB 7
2012 LB 32 – ROB 7
2013 LB 38 – ROB 22
2014 ROB 19 – LB 17
2015 LB 21 – ROB 14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 11, 2016 01:12PM

Steve, I'm glad you're back at this. I'll try to pick

Steve K Wrote:
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> Several great games on tap for week 4!
>
> Briar Woods @ West Potomac (-3.0)
> *I believe this is the first ever matchup between
> these schools and it should be a great game.

West Potomac wins and covers.

>
> Centreville (-10.0) @ Broad Run
> *This is a tough one to predict, this could be a
> close game but I’m impressed by Centreville’s
> early scores.
>

I don't know enough about Broad Run, but Centreville has been impressive so far. I saw them play both Annandale and Fairfax. I do have one nitpick. Late in the first quarter against Fairfax, Centreville is up 7-0 and Fairfax is punting. Centreville returns the punt for a TD to go up 14-0 as time expired at the end of the first quarter. Problem is that a block in the back should have been called against Centreville and that TD should have been called back. Centreville likely would have scored on that possession, but they wouldn't have put up 28 points in the Second quarter as they did in the actual game. The score wouldn't have been as lopsided. Fairfax gave up another punt return for a TD. In their Annandale game, they won by dominating defense, and a grind it out offense. Annandale didn't get a first down until the second half.

> Edison @ Marshall (-14.0)
> *Edison has been outscored 127-7 in their first
> two games against strong opponents.

This isn't the same Marshall as two- three years ago. I'd pick Marshall to win and cover.

>
> Herndon (-8.5) @ Falls Church
> *I think Herndon bounces back after an extremely
> disappointing loss.

Agree, Herndon wins and covers.

>
> Lee @ West Springfield (-16.0)

I've been surprised by West Springfield so far (and in a negative way). I think they win and cover, but not by much.

>
> McLean @ Madison (-35.0)

I don't like 35+ point spreads. Having said that, I'm impressed by Madison so far. People discounted how they would look this year, but they forget that they had the best lower level programs of all Liberty teams last year, so I'm not surprised. I'd say Madison wins and covers.
>
> Oakton @ Tuscarora (-13.0)

What's happened to Oakton? I think Tusky wins and covers.

>
> Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley

I don't know what to make of Langley. I'll take Potomac Falls to win and cover.

>
> Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *This atmosphere is second to none and should be a
> great matchup between unbeaten. This is high
> school football at its finest in NOVA.

I agree. I think Robo wins by a TD.

>
> South County (-7.0) @ Hayfield
> *This will be a fascinating matchup and it will
> tell me a lot about the status of both of these
> programs.

I'll take Hayfield and the points.

>
> Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Chantilly

After a disappointing loss against Madison, I look for Stone Bridge to win and cover.
>
> Stuart @ Annandale (-1.0)

I believe Stuart will win this outright. I think Annandale is down this year.
>
> TC Williams @ Westfield (-28.0)

Nice win by TC on Saturday, but Westfield is very different from Oakton. Westfield wins and covers.
>
> Woodson (-17.0) @ Fairfax

Woodson is improved, but their win against Chantilly says more about Chantilly than it does about Woodson. This is a rivalry game. I think Westfield wins, but doesn't cover.

>
> Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-6.0)

I think this is about the correct spread. I think W-L will win by a TD.
>
> Yorktown @ South Lakes (-17.0)

South Lakes wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wasting your time ()
Date: September 11, 2016 06:35PM

You stupid people wasting a lot of idle time when we all know that it is only and all about Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 11, 2016 08:55PM

I'm not the troll that keeps saying Westfield is unstoppable but I think it's really impressive how they are so dominant with mediocre demographics, decent enrollment, and despite the fact that they were a victim of a stupid boundary study. I'm assuming all the new South Lakes athletes would've under the previous boundaries went to Westfield. Westfield would've been even scarier then they are now.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield IS unstoppable ()
Date: September 11, 2016 09:19PM

We are Westfield, We are unstoppable, We are gods special children!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CVC ()
Date: September 11, 2016 11:54PM

What is up with Fairfax? I actually felt sorry for them. I though they were suppose to improve with new coach. I mean I knew they would loose to us but we could have scored 80 points. They look like little league team

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: September 12, 2016 07:24AM

Briar Woods @ West Potomac (-3.0)
*I believe this is the first ever matchup between these schools and it should be a great game."


West Po blocked a late BW FG try to win at BW last year. WP wins by 6 this time.


Centreville (-10.0) @ Broad Run
*This is a tough one to predict, this could be a close game but I’m impressed by Centreville’s early scores.


I'll go with Centreville here

Edison @ Marshall (-14.0)
*Edison has been outscored 127-7 in their first two games against strong opponents.


Marshall covers that spread.

Herndon (-8.5) @ Falls Church
*I think Herndon bounces back after an extremely disappointing loss.


Herndon is still a bad, bad football team. Falls Church wins this.

Lee @ West Springfield (-16.0)


Lee covers that.

McLean @ Madison (-35.0)
Madison covers

Oakton @ Tuscarora (-13.0)
Tusky covers

Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley
Langley keeps it closer than that.

Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock
*This atmosphere is second to none and should be a great matchup between unbeaten. This is high school football at its finest in NOVA.


I'll take the Rams.

South County (-7.0) @ Hayfield
*This will be a fascinating matchup and it will tell me a lot about the status of both of these programs.


South County by 12

Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Chantilly
Stone bridge covers that.

Stuart @ Annandale (-1.0)
I guess if they actually start the game someone will eventually win, right?

TC Williams @ Westfield (-28.0)
Sounds right

Woodson (-17.0) @ Fairfax
This ones right too

Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-6.0)
WL wins this

Yorktown @ South Lakes (-17.0)
South lakes wins but doesn't cover that

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: notasaxon ()
Date: September 12, 2016 12:15PM

Conf 7 guy Wrote:
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> Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley
> Langley keeps it closer than that.

Not a chance. PF is in the running as the best team in Loudoun this season. Langley has been pounded by West Potomac and Broad Run. I would look for another beatdown.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: R&3 ()
Date: September 12, 2016 03:42PM

Rowley step down, Rowley step down, Rowley step down, Rowley step down, Rowley step down

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 12, 2016 03:58PM

R&3 Wrote:
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> Rowley step down, Rowley step down, Rowley step
> down, Rowley step down, Rowley step down


Yup he should. Look what their rival schools are doing. They have a similar enrollment to Westfield, but much better demographics. The people who make the "they lost athletes to redistricting" argument don't seem to realize that Westfield was also affected by it. But look at the two schools. Oakton clearly has talent as other sports seem to do well, and they have multiple D1 players. So why aren't they doing good? COACHING. Rowley is the worst coach in the district.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: not that it matters ()
Date: September 12, 2016 05:35PM

Oakton is at home this Friday night

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Seppin fer.... ()
Date: September 12, 2016 05:48PM

CVC Wrote:
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> What is up with Fairfax? I actually felt sorry for
> them. I though they were suppose to improve with
> new coach. I mean I knew they would loose to us
> but we could have scored 80 points. They look like
> little league team


the fact they scored on you and that's a first for your season.
You all are good and it's nice to see another good team out there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fox mill dad ()
Date: September 12, 2016 07:08PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> R&3 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rowley step down, Rowley step down, Rowley step
> > down, Rowley step down, Rowley step down
>
>
> Yup he should. Look what their rival schools are
> doing. They have a similar enrollment to
> Westfield, but much better demographics. The
> people who make the "they lost athletes to
> redistricting" argument don't seem to realize that
> Westfield was also affected by it. But look at the
> two schools. Oakton clearly has talent as other
> sports seem to do well, and they have multiple D1
> players. So why aren't they doing good? COACHING.
> Rowley is the worst coach in the district.

Isn't this the same coach that took a mediocre 6-4 regular season team to a region title in 2012? Do you really think he got a lot dumber in four years? Westfield's only lost a portion of Floris which isn't a very big neighborhood to begin with while Oakton's loss of all of Fox Mill was much more impactful. For years after the redistricting FM was sending kids to Oakton for a variety of reasons (not just athletics) but you don't see any of that now.

It's not just the addition of Fox Mill that helped South Lakes turn the program around, they always got good athletes just not enough of them and they didn't have the coaching that could get the most out of them. Taylor's spread offense is a good fit the the type of athletes SL typically gets and he's got a QB who runs it well. It will be interesting to see if SL can keep it going in a couple of years because they still don't have a ton of kids on their roster.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Edible.com ()
Date: September 12, 2016 07:47PM

In 2012 Rowley had very good athletes who compensated for his bad coaching a D1 QB, D1 Defensive End, D1 Offensive Tackle

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CVC ()
Date: September 13, 2016 10:02AM

the fact they scored on you and that's a first for your season.
You all are good and it's nice to see another good team out there.
They scored on our back ups with their starters still in but what ever...........

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No Competition for Westy ()
Date: September 13, 2016 04:52PM

Just thought I would mention that while every single one of you has chosen Centreville this week over Broad Run, Broad Run went into Centreville last year and hung 56 on them.

Just sayin'....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: September 13, 2016 04:55PM

No Competition for Westy Wrote:
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> Just thought I would mention that while every
> single one of you has chosen Centreville this week
> over Broad Run, Broad Run went into Centreville
> last year and hung 56 on them.

That ain't happening this year sir. Centreville will get their revenge.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Need to know ()
Date: September 13, 2016 05:07PM

Who is Trump picking?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Only to get crushed by Westfield ()
Date: September 13, 2016 05:15PM

Not that it matters to me one way or the other, since even if you beat Broad Run, we are still going to smash you, but please share with us why Centreville is going to beat Broad Run?
Broad Run won the JV game last year. Their best player is back. Their o-line is bigger and stronger than yours, and you guys lost your two best players. Beating up on Annandale and Fairfax is no way to prepare for any real teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kirk ()
Date: September 13, 2016 08:18PM

I'll take the Spartans! (Get it? The SPARTANS!) It's me, Kirk. Your 20 million dollar man!

You like that?!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: centrevillerox ()
Date: September 13, 2016 08:22PM

Only to get crushed by Westfield Wrote:
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> Not that it matters to me one way or the other,
> since even if you beat Broad Run, we are still
> going to smash you, but please share with us why
> Centreville is going to beat Broad Run?
> Broad Run won the JV game last year. Their best
> player is back. Their o-line is bigger and
> stronger than yours, and you guys lost your two
> best players. Beating up on Annandale and Fairfax
> is no way to prepare for any real teams.

So you are right - Centreville can't be better than last year because none of their starters from last year are going to better this season with a year of experience. Centreville was +32 and +27 compared to games against the Atoms and Rebels last year. Oh, I know the other teams just worse. Wait. You will see.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: September 13, 2016 08:34PM

God bless America.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Prediction ()
Date: September 13, 2016 08:50PM

I believe that Robinson is gonna be good but I don't think they can compete with Centreville and Westfield. I think Westfield will go undefeated in the regular season and Centreville will have one loss.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Trust Me ()
Date: September 13, 2016 09:11PM

Broad Run will defeat the small, slow, mostly white Wildcats.
Robinson will destroy the Wildcats.
Westfield will break one off in the arse.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Robo's legit ()
Date: September 13, 2016 09:15PM

Robinson is the real deal this season and I'b truly be surprised if they were to lose to C'Ville this year. Westfield is another story but I honestly think ROBO handles C'Ville this season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruin Fan ()
Date: September 13, 2016 10:08PM

Lake Braddock is gonna roll on Robinson and then Centreville in a few weeks. You read it here 1st. Bruins 28 Rams 7.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 13, 2016 10:31PM

Bruin Fan Wrote:
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> Lake Braddock is gonna roll on Robinson and then
> Centreville in a few weeks. You read it here 1st.
> Bruins 28 Rams 7.

And in Week 13 they will get blown out by the same team that usually blows them out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 13, 2016 10:54PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Several great games on tap for week 4!

Hoping for more close games than the last couple weeks.


> Briar Woods @ West Potomac (-3.0)
> *I believe this is the first ever matchup between
> these schools and it should be a great game.

They played last year and West Po came out on top 29-27. Wolverines to win another close one.

> Centreville (-10.0) @ Broad Run
> *This is a tough one to predict, this could be a
> close game but I’m impressed by Centreville’s
> early scores.

Centreville wins but doesn't cover.

> Edison @ Marshall (-14.0)
> *Edison has been outscored 127-7 in their first
> two games against strong opponents.

Marshall covers easily.

> Herndon (-8.5) @ Falls Church
> *I think Herndon bounces back after an extremely
> disappointing loss.

Herndon covers barely. Falls Church looked to have some momentum a couple years ago but they have gone back to the bottom.

> Lee @ West Springfield (-16.0)

Spartans score enough to cover.

> McLean @ Madison (-35.0)

Madison wins easy, whether they cover comes down to coaching choices.

> Oakton @ Tuscarora (-13.0)

Hard to pick Oakton to win after their first two games, but I think they keep it within the spread here.

> Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley

Potomac Falls gets the cover.

> Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *This atmosphere is second to none and should be a
> great matchup between unbeaten. This is high
> school football at its finest in NOVA.

Tossup game so I'll go with Lake Braddock covering.

> South County (-7.0) @ Hayfield
> *This will be a fascinating matchup and it will
> tell me a lot about the status of both of these
> programs.

Yeah, big game for both teams. SoCo pulls out the cover but it isn't easy.

> Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Chantilly

Stone Bridge covers.

> Stuart @ Annandale (-1.0)

Stuart can't stop Annandale's running back.

> TC Williams @ Westfield (-28.0)

Westfield wins easy but TC sneaks in for the cover.

> Woodson (-17.0) @ Fairfax

17 is a big spread for Woodson, but if Fairfax lost to Herndon by 15 they can lose to Woodson by more than 17.

> Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-6.0)

Total question mark as neither team has shown anything the first two games. W-L just barely covers.

> Yorktown @ South Lakes (-17.0)

South Lakes covers big.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jimmy the Greek ()
Date: September 14, 2016 12:55PM

The Skinny, Nailed the West Springfield beat Down last week, on their way to a 4-6 season. Honestly thought Madison would come down to earth, Sorry folks you will just have to wait for the week #11 letdown in Vienna and it is coming. now for the action:

Briarwoods over West Potomac by 10... Briar woods has the Athletes to Play with and defeat, look for Maffe and Springs to have big games.

Centreville vs. Broad Run, Centrevilles first test of the year, look for Centreville to key on Hembry and win by 21...( Broad Run not thee same team as last year in-spite of line(s) and Hembry)

Edison vs. Marshall...Marshall athletes, pad your stats this week you all will look like superstars..Marshall by 24.

Herndon Vs. Fallschurch, Herndon gets back on track and goes home happy by 17.

Lee vs. West Springfield. even the lowly Spartan will find the Win Column this week, Sparty by 6.

Mclean vs. Madison, the Mclean field hockey team would put up a bigger fight, Madison by 29.

Oakton vs. Tuscarora, tusky gets past a lowly oakton..by 6pts

Potomac Falls vs. Langley, Potomac Falls is the Loudon Sleeper, Potomac Falls by 20.

Robinson vs. Lake Braddock, Robinson's Grind vs. LB big Play...Lb's Multi dimensions win it by 3.

South County vs. Hayfield, Look for the McDaniel QB to run the Ship the right way, feeding the ball to Salisbury on the Outside with the Queen on the Bench with Injury. Hayfield will score, However South County prevails by 13.

Stone BRidge vs. Chantilly, this game will be close for a quarter, Stone Bridge grinds them late and often. SB by 20.

Stuart vs. Annandale...Annandale will once again believe they can play football if only for a week. Annandale by 21.

Westfield vs. TC, Westfield maybe looking ahead to SB gives up 2 td's, still wins by 24.

Woodson vs. Fairfax. Both teams coming off of last week slaughters have chosen to play flag football this week instead. Woodson goes with sewn on flags and wins by 20!

Wake field vs. WL Both teams have decided Friday would be better spent at BW3 eating wings and watching College football. Winner will be decided by coin flip, whomever calls tails!

Yorktown vs. South Lakes, South Lakes express continue to impress. will be a while before they slow down. SL by 23.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: September 14, 2016 07:37PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Several great games on tap for week 4!
>
> Briar Woods @ West Potomac (-3.0)
> Keep sleeping on West Po... West Po 35-20
>
> Centreville (-10.0) @ Broad Run
> CVille 27-13
>
> Edison @ Marshall (-14.0)
> Bring Back Parker!!! Marshall 28-7
>
> Herndon (-8.5) @ Falls Church
> 2 really bad teams... Herndon 35-27
>
> Lee @ West Springfield (-16.0)
> Spartans suck... WS 28-21
> McLean @ Madison (-35.0)
If I were Madison id consider playing my JVs... Madison 42-8
>
> Oakton @ Tuscarora (-13.0)
Both teams struggling... Tusky is better 28-17
>
> Potomac Falls (-14.0) @ Langley
Pot Falls 27-14
> Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock
>Braddock 34-30
>
> South County (-7.0) @ Hayfield
> Could be an upset brewing but I'm leaning towards SoCo... 44-30
>
> Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Chantilly
> Who will land the Chantilly job? SB 35-13
> Stuart @ Annandale (-1.0)
> hmmmm... Stuart is better. I'd take them over the atoms... 28-26
> TC Williams @ Westfield (-28.0)
Westfield 24-7
>
> Woodson (-17.0) @ Fairfax
Fairfax is awful... WT 42-16
>
> Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-6.0)

These teams suck too. Wakefield 21-17
>
> Yorktown @ South Lakes (-17.0)

This is my upset of the week... I was at that SL-Briar Woods games and I liked what I saw from SL but that win came down to 3 big plays. Yorktown is well coached and won't make the same mistakes... I'd say Yorktown 28-27.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: thewayiseeit ()
Date: September 14, 2016 10:08PM

GOTW....Robinson vs Lake Braddock

Can Braddock slow down Robinson's running attack? Most likely not, could be a long night for Braddock. I see this 35-7 Robinson

This years team reminds me a lot of the Bendorf years. Great offense and great defense = State title!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: not if ()
Date: September 15, 2016 07:34AM

Robinson will win nothing if all they do is run the ball. That is fine in the regular season but if you are one dimensional like that will come back to hurt them in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: interesting ()
Date: September 15, 2016 08:01AM

The Robinson team is interesting. This LB game will be a good test to see how good they actually are or if they are still one dimensional against the tougher teams. I was at the Woodson game and they were actually throwing the ball quite a bit and successfully - much more than last year. However, the QB2 played almost the entire 2nd half and I can't remember how many of their big plays in the 1st half were running vs. passing. Probably more running though, and they had like, 4 interceptions on defense. They have a lot of breakaway speed again this year. Should be a good game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 15, 2016 10:41AM

Centreville is a bottom feeder and honestly should not be mentioned on this forum...there done GENTLEMAN..please quit trying to hype them

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 15, 2016 10:49AM

And I know because I am the world's foremost football expert.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton Fan 1996-2016 ()
Date: September 15, 2016 12:16PM

Lots of people calling for Rowley's head. Not sure where this comes from. Have you seen the team or are you just going on history. The QB broke his collar bone on the first play against TC. They have two starting lineman out (1 being 1 of the D1 kids everyone is talking about.) They have no running backs - but a freshman. They have no speed in the secondary and they are all 5'7.
Just because they lost to Madison doesn't mean they are terrible. I would bet that Madison goes 10-0 or 9-1 this season. They are already 17-2 in their last 19 games - pretty impressive for that little school in Vienna. They should be getting way more respect than they are given.

Another argument being thrown around is the school demo. Have you walked the school? It is basically turned into East Africa and Asia. The strong middle class student has been eliminated from the school. Look at the sports the Oakton dominates - girls sports, swimming, tennis, and distance running. Not basketball or football or lacrosse. Notice the teams that win in football - they dominate in football, basketball and lacrosse.

Rowley is a good coach who is respected by peers. He is not dominate or loaded with talent. If I were him I would leave Oakton too. Oakton is not a job that anyone with brains would take. Coach Thompson and Coach Bendorf both had seasons like this while I have watched Oakton. People called for their heads too. Both coaches had state titles, coach of the year awards, and regional titles. Those just don't go away - people don't change that much. Rowley won coach of the year in 2012. The people on here calling for him to resign are all one parent who shall remain nameless - but if you sit in the stands like I do each Friday - you know who he is.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Vienna Inn ()
Date: September 15, 2016 02:36PM

We all know who he is also, not Rowley's fault the guys kid stinks and stands out not only because he's a foot taller than the 5-7" kids in the secondary.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 15, 2016 08:48PM

Oakton Fan 1996-2016 Wrote:
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> Lots of people calling for Rowley's head. Not
> sure where this comes from. Have you seen the
> team or are you just going on history. The QB
> broke his collar bone on the first play against
> TC. They have two starting lineman out (1 being 1
> of the D1 kids everyone is talking about.) They
> have no running backs - but a freshman. They have
> no speed in the secondary and they are all 5'7.
> Just because they lost to Madison doesn't mean
> they are terrible. I would bet that Madison goes
> 10-0 or 9-1 this season. They are already 17-2 in
> their last 19 games - pretty impressive for that
> little school in Vienna. They should be getting
> way more respect than they are given.
>
> Another argument being thrown around is the school
> demo. Have you walked the school? It is
> basically turned into East Africa and Asia. The
> strong middle class student has been eliminated
> from the school. Look at the sports the Oakton
> dominates - girls sports, swimming, tennis, and
> distance running. Not basketball or football or
> lacrosse. Notice the teams that win in football -
> they dominate in football, basketball and
> lacrosse.
>
> Rowley is a good coach who is respected by peers.
> He is not dominate or loaded with talent. If I
> were him I would leave Oakton too. Oakton is not
> a job that anyone with brains would take. Coach
> Thompson and Coach Bendorf both had seasons like
> this while I have watched Oakton. People called
> for their heads too. Both coaches had state
> titles, coach of the year awards, and regional
> titles. Those just don't go away - people don't
> change that much. Rowley won coach of the year in
> 2012. The people on here calling for him to
> resign are all one parent who shall remain
> nameless - but if you sit in the stands like I do
> each Friday - you know who he is.

Numbers don't lie and Oakton's numbers are definetly better than Westfield. Simmons would win atleast 8 games with them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: all about ()
Date: September 16, 2016 08:58AM

It is all about Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: September 16, 2016 12:38PM

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/rDS7KHYixES71M6h_exc8g/number-of-nfl-players-who-played-high-school-football-in-each-state.htm

NFL opening weekend rosters by state

239 – Florida
220 – California
214 – Texas
119 – Georgia
94 – Ohio
68 – Alabama
68 – Pennsylvania
62 – Louisiana
60 – North Carolina
58 – New Jersey
57 – South Carolina
50 – Virginia
49 – Michigan
46 – Illinois
39 – Maryland
33 – Missouri
32 – New York
34 – Tennessee
33 – Mississippi
29 – Arizona
28 – Wisconsin
26 – Outside the United States
22 – Washington
20 – Minnesota
18 – Indiana
18 – Oklahoma
17 – Connecticut
16 – Utah
16 – Colorado
16 – Oregon
15 – Kansas
14 – Arkansas
14 – Iowa
14 – Kentucky
13 – Nebraska
11 – Nevada
11 – Hawaii
10 – District of Columbia
8 – Massachusetts
7 – Montana
7 – Delaware
5 – Idaho
4 – New Mexico
3 – North Dakota
3 – South Dakota
2 – West Virginia
2 – New Hampshire
1 – Rhode Island
1 – Wyoming
0 – Alaska, Maine, Vermont

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 333 ()
Date: September 16, 2016 09:56PM

Safe to say Westfield sucks, Lake Braddock isn't overrated, Centervillles back, Oakton may not do that bad, Herndon some straight up shit

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Idiot ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:14PM

Idiot, WF doesn't suck, they overlooked TC big time and were only thinking of Stone Bridge next week. Oaktons not back, they played a very weak Tuscarora team. Loudon County schools are being thinned out with a new high school opening every year. WF will finish atop if not top of 6A North. They'll get better every week as they always do, and oh yeah, they now have a real RB, Asante. Watch him light it up which will only benefit Johnson and WF's passing attack.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ages of players ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:34PM

I've noticed a lot of players are held back in middle school or early high school and get more play time when they finally make varsity after 4 years of playing. That and the 'moving' to other districts to obviously better position themselves with other teams, and the coaches are all in on this shit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tonightsgamenotes ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:38PM

Westfield had an interesting game vs TCW. The highlight of the evening was probably the marching band show at halftime which was pretty awesome.

The Westfield football team looked like they were sleepwalking through much of this game. Gotta say the defensive player of the game for Westfield was #23 Rivers multiple tackles for losses, QB sack, pass breakup just a really terrific game I thought. Too bad he got hurt late hope he is OK. #32 Petrillo also had a fine performance.

Yeah, I saw this #8 Asante get into the game and am wondering why he hasn't been playing more - he's clearly a far better back than anyone else they got. Titans were a big team if they had been able to throw the ball better they might have pulled off the upset. Looked like they were wearing down Westfield both sides of the ball. The type of game reminded me of the South Lakes game actually.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:41PM

tonightsgamenotes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Westfield had an interesting game vs TCW. The
> highlight of the evening was probably the marching
> band show at halftime which was pretty awesome.
>
> The Westfield football team looked like they were
> sleepwalking through much of this game. Gotta say
> the defensive player of the game for Westfield was
> #23 Rivers multiple tackles for losses, QB sack,
> pass breakup just a really terrific game I
> thought. Too bad he got hurt late hope he is OK.
> #32 Petrillo also had a fine performance.
>
> Yeah, I saw this #8 Asante get into the game and
> am wondering why he hasn't been playing more -
> he's clearly a far better back than anyone else
> they got. Titans were a big team if they had been
> able to throw the ball better they might have
> pulled off the upset. Looked like they were
> wearing down Westfield both sides of the ball.
> The type of game reminded me of the South Lakes
> game actually.

This was Asante's first game back from injury. He's really talented, dominated all the Concorde freshmen teams last year. They are gonna ease him back into the lineup.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfield is everything ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:43PM

It is about Westfield, life itself is about Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruin Nation ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:44PM

Lake Braddock going win this year bitchazzzzzzz

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Everything is Westfield ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:49PM

WESTFIELD< FIELD WEST< WEST OF THE FIELD< It is about us, about the team, the spirit, about our blessings from GOD

WESTFIELD BELIEVE IN US AND YOU TOO SHALL NEVER PERISH BECAUSE THE LORD LOVES WESTFIELD THE MOST

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:53PM

ONE TWO THREE WE ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND BOTH YOU AND I CAN SEE

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Dad ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:55PM

Boys no dixie cups this Saturday since you only won by seven points. We have standards here you know and you must live up to them before you get the Bulldog perks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: loudouncountyfail ()
Date: September 16, 2016 10:56PM

I guess we will have to put up with yet another year of everyone telling us how great a team Briar Woods is. They were the best 3-8 team in the history of the VHSL last year we were led to believe. I guess they are now the best 1-2 team as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: one year trend ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:02PM

the one year trend of Loudon football being "better" than Fairfax is over for good now that they have spread out the players across schools like in Fairfax.....sorry Loudon you are back to being the red headed step children of local football....eat my shorts for all the smack you talked last year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Mom ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:03PM

Boys and if you don't win by more than seven I will not given you peeks anymore....we have standards you know

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Grandma ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:07PM

I am gonna kick you boys assess if you don't play real Westfield football. What is the matter with you, we have standards.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield dixie cup supplier ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:13PM

Agree with Westfield Dad, no dixie cups for you if you play like this

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton Fan 96-16 ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:15PM

Happy for Oakton to get a great win tonight. Was lots of fun to watch. Congrats to Rowley and his staff for a hard fought win. Kids were totally different.
And how about TC giving Westfield a run. So maybe the Cougars are not that bad.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:17PM

No, really they are that bad

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: little consolation ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:27PM

Briar Woods is a damn good 1-3 team. Maffe is a beast and West Po deserves a lot of credit for hanging on for the W.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville anyone ()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:45PM

Wildcats back in the Conversation after a good solid win at broad run

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: thewayiseeit ()
Date: September 17, 2016 12:12AM

I guess Braddock is for real. I thought Robinson would run all over them and they did, but couldn't score! Robinson's defense had a really hard time stopping Braddock. The Adkins kid for Braddock is a beast, with Mansaray and Park, they have more weapons then in the past. They run a 2 QB system, seems to work for them, both QBs have played well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: September 17, 2016 08:38AM

Heard Hayfield blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead against SoCo?

I attended The Lake Briddock Robinson game. LB is the real deal. Their Running back is really good.

Looks LB is the favorite to win it all this this year. There are about 6 teams who can finish 2nd. Great year for HS football

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dayum Hay ()
Date: September 17, 2016 10:12AM

Well, valiant effort by the Hawks. It was honestly a really close game and I'm more inclined to believe that they are just better than what was previously thought. It was a very exciting ballgame to see. Honestly, I was hoping the Hawks would've won (being that I'm an LB fan, although I decided I'd watch Hay vs SOCO for some reason.). AND as for LB, great job, I knew they were going to win, but not with such disparity. Anywho, what's up with Battlefield? I mean I know that a lot of you always presume that BF will be somewhat competitive, but I kind of doubt that this year hearing about their loss.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: BRUIN NATION! ()
Date: September 17, 2016 10:14AM

Lake Braddock will win state championship this year. Mark it down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Agreed with Braddock ()
Date: September 17, 2016 11:33AM

Yep Lake Braddock is shoo in this year, best in NR

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EARLY DISTRICT STANDINGS
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 17, 2016 11:40AM

CARDINAL CONFERENCE 8

Battlefield (3-1, 0-0)
W, CD Hylton, 29-23 (3OT)
W, Gar-Field, 30-6
W, Woodbridge, 32-0
L, Riverbend, 14-25

Patriot (2-2, 0-0)
W, Stafford, 29-28
L, Forest Park, 28-38
L, CD Hylton, 13-34
W, Woodbridge, 36-7

Osbourn (1-3, 0-0)
L, North Stafford, 26-56
L, CD Hylton, 7-49
W, Potomac, 34-27
L, Gar-Field, 21-28

Osbourn Park (0-4, 0-0)
L, Forest Park, 0-45
L, Mountain View, 13-42
L, Freedom, 0-48
L, CD Hylton, 0-47

Stonewall Jackson (0-4, 0-0)
L, Woodbridge, 28-35
L, Brooke Point, 6-45
L, North Stafford, 29-50
L, Forest Park, 24-27


CONCORDE CONFERENCE 5

Centreville (3-0, 0-0)
W, Annandale, 42-0
W, Fairfax, 55-6
W, Broad Run, 21-9

Westfield (3-0, 0-0)
W, Washington-Lee, 45-0
W, South County, 17-13
W, T.C. Williams, 21-14

Robinson (2-1, 0-0)
W, West Springfield, 49-14
W, W.T. Woodson, 45-7
L, Lake Braddock, 7-36

Chantilly (1-2, 0-0)
L, W.T. Woodson, 7-17
W, R.E. Lee, 42-19
L, Stone Bridge, 7-39

Herndon (1-2, 0-0)
W, Fairfax, 35-20
L, J.E.B. Stuart, 46-50
L, Falls Church, 12-48

Oakton (1-2, 0-0)
L, Madison, 10-33
L, T.C. Williams, 7-20
W, Tuscarora, 31-20


LIBERTY CONFERENCE 6

Madison (3-0, 1-0)
W, Oakton, 33-10
W, Stone Bridge, 19-15
W, McLean, 42-0

South Lakes (3-0, 1-0)
W, Marshall, 49-8
W, Briar Woods, 28-21
W, Yorktown, 35-13

Hayfield (2-1, 0-0)
W, Edison, 67-0
W, Tuscarora, 26-20
L, South County, 46-50

Washington-Lee (1-2, 0-0)
L, Mount Vernon, 28-44
L, Westfield, 0-45
W, Wakefield, 48-21

Fairfax (0-3, 0-0)
L, Herndon, 20-35
L, Centreville, 6-55
L, WT Woodson, 7-42

Langley (0-3, 0-0)
L, West Potomac, 12-41
L, Broad Run, 3-28
L, Potomac Falls, 28-41

Yorktown (1-2, 0-1)
L, Woodrow Wilson, 0-41
W, Wakefield, 35-0
L, South Lakes, 13-35

McLean (0-3, 0-1)
L, Annandale, 22-49
L, Marshall, 6-21
L, Madison, 0-42


NATIONAL CONFERENCE 13

Marshall (2-1, 1-0)
L, South Lakes, 8-49
W, McLean, 21-6
W, Edison, 34-0

Falls Church (1-2, 0-0)
L, Eastern, 19-24
L, Potomac Falls, 14-46
W, Herndon, 48-12

Stuart (1-2, 0-0)
L, Mount Vernon, 7-30
W, Herndon, 50-46
L, Annandale, 0-44

Wakefield (0-3, 0-0 )
L, Broad Run, 6-41
L, Yorktown, 0-35
L, Washington-Lee, 21-48

Lee (0-3, 0-0)
L, Lake Braddock, 18-63
L, Chantilly, 19-42
L, West Springfield, 7-35

Thomas Jefferson (0-3, 0-0)
L, John Paul the Great, 0-39
L, Richard Wright Charter, 12-50
L, National Collegiate Prep, 13-58

Edison (0-3, 0-1)
L, Hayfield, 0-67
L, West Potomac, 7-70
L, Marshall, 0-34


PATRIOT CONFERENCE 7

Lake Braddock (3-0, 1-0)
W, Lee, 63-18
W, Annandale, 52-7
W, Robinson, 36-7

Mount Vernon (3-0, 1-0)
W, Washington-Lee, 44-28
W, Stuart, 30-7
W, West Springfield, 37-25

West Potomac (3-0, 0-0)
W, Langley, 41-12
W, Edison, 60-7
W, Briar Woods, 38-35

South County (2-1, 0-0)
W, Briar Woods, 27-23
L, Westfield, 13-17
W, Hayfield, 50-46

WT Woodson (2-1, 0-0)
W, Chantilly, 17-7
L, Robinson, 7-45
W, Fairfax, 42-7

TC Williams (1-2, 0-0)
L, Stone Bridge, 0-38
W, Oakton, 20-7
L, Westfield, 14-21

Annandale (2-2, 0-1)
W, McLean, 49-22
L, Centreville, 0-42
L, Lake Braddock, 7-52
W, Stuart, 44-0

West Springfield (1-2, 0-1)
L, Robinson, 14-49
L, Mount Vernon, 25-37
W, Lee, 35-7


POTOMAC CONFERENCE 14

Potomac Falls (4-0, 1-0)
W, Broad Run, 16-10
W, Dominion, 15-7
W, Falls Church, 46-14
W, Langley, 41-28

Briar Woods (1-3, 1-0)
W, Tuscarora, 21-0
L, South County, 23-27
L, South Lakes, 21-28
L, West Potomac, 35-38

Stone Bridge (2-1, 0-0)
W, T.C. Williams, 38-0
L, Madison, 19-15
W, Chantilly, 39-7

Broad Run (2-2, 0-1)
L, Potomac Falls, 10-16
W, Wakefield, 41-6
W, Langley, 28-3
L, Centreville, 9-21

Tuscarora (1-3, 0-1)
L, Briar Woods, 0-21
W, Loudoun County, 55-21
L, Hayfield, 20-26
L, Oakton, 20-31

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 17, 2016 12:42PM

Regarding the standings just posted -- you can almost tell which teams will be in the playoffs in 6A and which ones won't.

Here's a summary:

Undefeated teams (Total of 7):

Centreville
Westfield
South Lakes
Madison
Lake Braddock
Mt. Vernon
West Potomac

One loss teams (total of 5):

Robinson
Hayfield
Battlefield (3-1)
South County
Woodson

That's 12 teams

.500 teams:

Patriot
Annandale

One win teams (8 teams):

Osbourn (1-3)
Chantilly
Oakton
Herndon
Washington-Lee
Yorktown
TC Williams
West Springfield

Winless teams:

Stonewall Jackson
Osbourn Park
Langley
Fairfax
McLean

It's hard to see how any undefeated teams will miss out on the playoffs, though in the case of Mt. Vernon, I think most won't be sold until they get another win. The one loss teams likely will be in. For the remaining 4 (or 5, if you discount Mt. Vernon), it will be interesting to see which of the one loss teams rebound.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Dad ()
Date: September 17, 2016 03:55PM

The day begins and ends with Westfield - no other team matters

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Observations ()
Date: September 17, 2016 04:20PM

Wife is out of town, so got to watch Gameday all night and into today. So.. some intel on area's undefeated teams.

Centreville played a sound game, but was still outgained and Broad Run had much higher time of possession. Horrible secondary play by Broad Run contributed to this win. Broad Run better on O-Line and D-Line. Centreville quarterback was pounded all night long, but is gutsy and made some big throws.

Westfield looked very beatable. They are simply not as physically talented as some of the teams that they will line up against this year. Doesn't mean they won't win some of those, just means that it will be more difficult.

Potomac Falls is going to lose three games before crumbling in second round of the playoffs. They had their hands full with a severely limited Langley team.

Lake Braddock rolled over vaunted Robinson Rams. No one really saw this coming. It is early, but they certainly look like a team with a chance to run the table. How many times have we seen this before, however?

Woodgrove is just not as strong as last year. Really had to work to defeat Dominion. Very surprised at how much trouble they had.

Didn't see Madison last night, but they are for real. At least with the schedule they have in front of them. Nice win over Stone Bridge last week. Not all that many tests left on their schedule.

Mt. Vernon - Improvement is measurable, but they will still be two touchdown dogs against top teams, and for good reason.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 17, 2016 05:39PM

How dare you question Westfield, Observations Man. We will always be supreme - don't question who we are as we are the best of all time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: September 17, 2016 11:17PM

Observations Wrote:
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> Centreville played a sound game, but was still
> outgained and Broad Run had much higher time of
> possession. Horrible secondary play by Broad Run
> contributed to this win. Broad Run better on
> O-Line and D-Line. Centreville quarterback was
> pounded all night long, but is gutsy and made some
> big throws.

Hembry had a lot of yardage - how did Centreville keep Broad Run out of the end zone? Their defense has not let up many points at all this season.


> Westfield looked very beatable. They are simply
> not as physically talented as some of the teams
> that they will line up against this year. Doesn't
> mean they won't win some of those, just means that
> it will be more difficult.

Your comment seems fair. This has to be the smallest sized team I've seen from Westfield in quite a few years. Losing #23 on defense isn't going to help. I think Westfield will struggle against a lot of the bigger teams coming their way.


> Potomac Falls is going to lose three games before
> crumbling in second round of the playoffs. They
> had their hands full with a severely limited
> Langley team.

I don't know about that. Potomac Falls would seem to about the strongest team in Loudoun.


> Lake Braddock rolled over vaunted Robinson Rams.
> No one really saw this coming. It is early, but
> they certainly look like a team with a chance to
> run the table. How many times have we seen this
> before, however?

Lake Braddock certainly has some talent at RB. I was expecting this to be a tight game.

> Woodgrove is just not as strong as last year.
> Really had to work to defeat Dominion. Very
> surprised at how much trouble they had.

Don't know anything about these teams.

> Didn't see Madison last night, but they are for
> real. At least with the schedule they have in
> front of them. Nice win over Stone Bridge last
> week. Not all that many tests left on their
> schedule.

Madison looked very good against Stone Bridge.

> Mt. Vernon - Improvement is measurable, but they
> will still be two touchdown dogs against top
> teams, and for good reason.

Who will win the Mount Vernon vs. TC Williams matchup?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve not k nor 2 ()
Date: September 18, 2016 08:32AM

For most, this is their last non-conference games. Maybe not enough information to list the winner, but certainly each conferences' top and bottom teams.

Cedar Run:
1.Battlefield ; good, but unfortunately not close enough to see the 6A hell-fest that is Fairfax
2. Patriot ; ^^^^^
3-??.(it's PW, who cares, do you think Osbourn is gonna do anything?)

Concorde:
1. Westfield; maybe not their best year, but just good enough to outshine the other two
2-3. Robinson and Centreville, may take a few weeks to convince me that CVille is making sufficient progress. Robinson brings an honestly, still good running game despite the surprising 22-7 loss.
4. Chantilly; knowing Chantilly's absurd first round luck when it comes to the play offs and Oakton losing harshly to TCW I'll take them as the #4.
5. Oakton^^^^
6. Well, they have the conference's best marching ba-... Wait, maybe not.

Patriot:
1-2. SOCO and LB as usual, probably more in LB's favor due to their consistency
3. West Po; Great team with a fluid offense and some star D-players, could be #2 given a little extra luck.
4-6. MV, Woodson, and TCW will have a great fight out, #6 may be the playoff cut off point.
7. Annadale can sit here and be happy as they remember the time when they were still not born

Liberty:
1-3. This baffles me a lot. They all seem to be a great deal better than even last year when we all shat bricks seeing how well they performed. Though Hayfield last year was the prime loser, just watching them in their recent games shows lots of ACTUAL competitivity and not mere presumption like 2015 with horrid losses against Tusc and SOCO, and a lame win against Edison. South Lakes has hit the jack pot in the last few years with reddistricting and better coaches, their killer spread fits their speed and endurance quite well with a break out win against briar woods probably better than Soco's. Madison, yet another highly improved team and the returning conference champions will not make it easy for anyone to claim that title back despite senior losses, they have lots of developed young players. I say keep a close eye because I can see all 3 of these teams making it to round two.... Considering the fact that playoff sucker punchers Chantilly are REALLY bad this year.

tl;dr - I want to know what goes on in these schools' offseason.

4. Yorktown can contemplate how they thought they were going to win a, what was thought to be an easy conference.

5. W-L will be (conference wise) 3W and 4L

6. Langley- Remember when people thought that Langley was going to arbitrarily be the dark horse of Liberty? They could still become #5, but my interest dissolved.

7. McLean- Their wrestling squad in all honesty could do better, only losing to Hayfield since their wrestling team will probably win their 6th regional title (off topic, but I'm calling Hayfield>Battlefield).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The guy above ()
Date: September 18, 2016 08:33AM

Put Woodson #6. Idk why I thought that

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 18, 2016 09:50AM

You're missing West Springfield from Patriot. You don't think they'll be last, do you?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve not k nor 2 ()
Date: September 18, 2016 10:40AM

I kind of did that in the rush so my mistake. I suppose they could always make a come back, I'll place them in the 4-7 mix and have Annandale at 8.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: State champs ()
Date: September 18, 2016 12:58PM

Bruins will run the table. What happened to Mike Clarke is he still working at Braddock?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruin NATION! ()
Date: September 18, 2016 02:53PM

Agreed it is a given Lake Braddock wins state this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruins ()
Date: September 18, 2016 08:49PM

There are no givens. If P finds out a kid is posting you are done. P don't like talkers

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bruins baby ()
Date: September 18, 2016 10:53PM

Poythress knows this is the year - it is a sure thing. Lake Braddock wins the states...............!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Poythress here ()
Date: September 18, 2016 11:01PM

I authorize all posts saying that Bruins will win the title this year as I am so sure this time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Dad ()
Date: September 18, 2016 11:09PM

Don't be so sure Braddock boys, Westfield will have their say.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tired of dis shit man ()
Date: September 19, 2016 12:23AM

Being an infrequent but interested reader of this site, time to shut up the Westfield and Lake Braddock fans - both getting out of control.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HS Football Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2016 07:02AM

The only real way to stop the LB And WHS talk is to beat them. Those programs are contenders, not pretenders.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GMGFU ()
Date: September 19, 2016 10:05AM

The discerning football fans realize these posts are from trolls (most likely the same person actually) and simply skip over and move along. Judging by the syntax and styled repetition it would appear to be the same person that was trolling the 2015 thread last October.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Playoff Question ()
Date: September 19, 2016 10:56AM

Is Mount Vernon really a contender? Has anyone seen them? Can they beat TC, Annandale, Woodson?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2016 11:31AM

Is Mount Vernon really a contender? Has anyone seen them? Can they beat TC, Annandale, Woodson?

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Think pretender, they should beat Annandale, don't know about Woodson, very much doubt they have a chance against TC. I was impressed with TC this past Friday, they do have some athletes. It seems that Mount Vernon has benefited from a very weak schedule thus far. I also think West Springfield is overrated, just wanted to put that out there for those Major's fans that want to point that victory out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jugding Oakton (and crazy dad) ()
Date: September 19, 2016 02:43PM

Oakton Fan 1996-2016 Wrote:
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> Lots of people calling for Rowley's head. Not
> sure where this comes from. Have you seen the
> team or are you just going on history. The QB
> broke his collar bone on the first play against
> TC. They have two starting lineman out (1 being 1
> of the D1 kids everyone is talking about.) They
> have no running backs - but a freshman. They have
> no speed in the secondary and they are all 5'7.
> Just because they lost to Madison doesn't mean
> they are terrible. I would bet that Madison goes
> 10-0 or 9-1 this season. They are already 17-2 in
> their last 19 games - pretty impressive for that
> little school in Vienna. They should be getting
> way more respect than they are given.
>
> Another argument being thrown around is the school
> demo. Have you walked the school? It is
> basically turned into East Africa and Asia. The
> strong middle class student has been eliminated
> from the school. Look at the sports the Oakton
> dominates - girls sports, swimming, tennis, and
> distance running. Not basketball or football or
> lacrosse. Notice the teams that win in football -
> they dominate in football, basketball and
> lacrosse.
>
> Rowley is a good coach who is respected by peers.
> He is not dominate or loaded with talent. If I
> were him I would leave Oakton too. Oakton is not
> a job that anyone with brains would take. Coach
> Thompson and Coach Bendorf both had seasons like
> this while I have watched Oakton. People called
> for their heads too. Both coaches had state
> titles, coach of the year awards, and regional
> titles. Those just don't go away - people don't
> change that much. Rowley won coach of the year in
> 2012. The people on here calling for him to
> resign are all one parent who shall remain
> nameless - but if you sit in the stands like I do
> each Friday - you know who he is.


Spot on my good man. Nice kids...try hard, but just not enough there. Then add injury. At least you only have to sit in the stands with that guy. Could you imagine how awful it would be to be his son. "Back in the day, I was......", "You could be in the NFL if coach R knew what he was doing"...."You should be on the field every second"....he is the worst fan/parent I have seen in years. Not even close

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2016 03:59PM

Spot on my good man. Nice kids...try hard, but just not enough there. Then add injury. At least you only have to sit in the stands with that guy. Could you imagine how awful it would be to be his son. "Back in the day, I was......", "You could be in the NFL if coach R knew what he was doing"...."You should be on the field every second"....he is the worst fan/parent I have seen in years. Not even close

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Does his kid play a skill position, possibly WR/TE?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jagga ()
Date: September 19, 2016 04:38PM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> Spot on my good man. Nice kids...try hard, but
> just not enough there. Then add injury. At least
> you only have to sit in the stands with that guy.
> Could you imagine how awful it would be to be his
> son. "Back in the day, I was......", "You could be
> in the NFL if coach R knew what he was
> doing"...."You should be on the field every
> second"....he is the worst fan/parent I have seen
> in years. Not even close
>
> __________________________________________________
> _________________
>
> Does his kid play a skill position, possibly
> WR/TE?


Rowley doesn't have a son

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2016 05:37PM

Jagga Wrote:
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> Bulldog Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Spot on my good man. Nice kids...try hard, but
> > just not enough there. Then add injury. At
> least
> > you only have to sit in the stands with that
> guy.
> > Could you imagine how awful it would be to be
> his
> > son. "Back in the day, I was......", "You could
> be
> > in the NFL if coach R knew what he was
> > doing"...."You should be on the field every
> > second"....he is the worst fan/parent I have
> seen
> > in years. Not even close
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________
>
> > _________________
> >
> > Does his kid play a skill position, possibly
> > WR/TE?
>
>
> Rowley doesn't have a son



Yes I know, they're talking about one of the player's overbearing father.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: a coach ()
Date: September 20, 2016 05:27AM

Bulldog Fan Wrote:
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> Spot on my good man. Nice kids...try hard, but
> just not enough there. Then add injury. At least
> you only have to sit in the stands with that guy.
> Could you imagine how awful it would be to be his
> son. "Back in the day, I was......", "You could be
> in the NFL if coach R knew what he was
> doing"...."You should be on the field every
> second"....he is the worst fan/parent I have seen
> in years. Not even close
>
> __________________________________________________
> _________________
>
> Does his kid play a skill position, possibly
> WR/TE?

on my team, we call them ball-touchers. It takes more skill to play the offensive line.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 20, 2016 07:54AM

Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)

Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run

Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson

Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)

Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield

Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee

Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)

Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)

Madison (-14.0) @ Langley

Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)

Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton

South County (-20.0) @ West Springfield

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean

Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)

West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
*Upset pick

Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge

Mount Vernon @ TC Williams (-6.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: September 20, 2016 09:38AM

Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)
I'll Take Woodson here


Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run
Think I'm going with Broad Run. BW has to feel gutted after last week.

Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson
Taking the Smart Kids. Edison is a bad, bad football team.

Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)
Yorktown wins but doesn't cover that spread.

Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield
Falls Church wins but does not cover

Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee
Might not be enough on that spread.

Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)
Chantilly covers.

Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)
Wow. When was the last time Stuart was favored? Probably the last time they played Lee. Stuart wins and covers.

Madison (-14.0) @ Langley
Madison wins and covers.

Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)
Potomac Falls wins and covers

Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton
Robinson wins and covers

South County (-20.0) @ West Springfield
South County wins and covers

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean
South Lakes wins but does not cover that spread.

Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)
Centreville wins but does not cover.

West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
*Upset pick
Oooooh, intriguing. I'll take West Po too.

Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge
Westfield Wins and covers.

Mount Vernon @ TC Williams (-6.0)
TC wins and covers. Welcome back to reality, Majors.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Schedule maker ()
Date: September 20, 2016 10:38AM

Despite the Washington Post error, I just saw that the West Springfield South county game is actually at SoCo. Game was at West Springfield last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 20, 2016 02:44PM

I'll try my hand at this as well:


Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)
> I'll Take Woodson here

I'll go with Woodson as well. I was tempted to take Annandale and the points (Woodson winning but not covering), based on Annandale's win last week, but I decided not to. Woodson is having too good of a year.

>
> Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run
> Think I'm going with Broad Run. BW has to feel
> gutted after last week.

Don't know much about Loudon football, so I'll go along with this.
>
> Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson
> Taking the Smart Kids. Edison is a bad, bad
> football team.

Going with Edison here, and giving the points.

>
> Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)
> Yorktown wins but doesn't cover that spread.

Agree that Yorktown wins. Fairfax seems really down this year, so I think Yorktown will also cover that spread.

>
> Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield
> Falls Church wins but does not cover

I agree with this, Falls Church wins, but doesn't cover.
>
> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee
> Might not be enough on that spread.

Hayfield wins, and I agree that the spread isn't enough. I think Hayfield wins this one by 35. Liberty is looking like a big three (Hayfield, Madison, South Lakes) and little five (Fairfax, Langley, Mclean, W-L, Yorktown) conference. If Hayfield can hang with South County, they'll demolish W-L.
>
> Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)
> Chantilly covers.

Agree, Chantilly wins and covers. They probably win by 14. Chantilly's season will be in jeopardy if they don't win this, and they know it. Knowing that will be enough for them to pull off the win.
>
> Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)
> Wow. When was the last time Stuart was favored?
> Probably the last time they played Lee. Stuart
> wins and covers.

Agree
>
> Madison (-14.0) @ Langley
> Madison wins and covers.

Agree that Madison will win and that they will cover that spread.
>
> Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)
> Potomac Falls wins and covers

Agree that Potomac Falls will win and cover that spread.
>
> Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton
> Robinson wins and covers

Agree that Robo will win and cover that spread.
>
> South County (-20.0) @ West Springfield
> South County wins and covers

This is a tough one, because Hayfield gave South County all they could handle. I'll go with South County winning, and covering, but just barely.
>
> South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean
> South Lakes wins but does not cover that spread.

Agree that South Lakes will win, but I think they will also cover. Last week, Madison was a 35 point favorite against McLean. If you install South Lakes as only a 28 point favorite, that means you think Madison is the better of the two. While that may happen, I don't think that's at all clear yet. I watched a bit of the South Lakes Yorktown game, and it wasn't really as close as the final score would have indicated. South Lakes is for real.
>
> Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)
> Centreville wins but does not cover.

I think Centreville wins and covers.
>
> West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *Upset pick
> Oooooh, intriguing. I'll take West Po too.

Nope, I'm going with Lake Braddock to win (I especially like getting 3 points).
>
> Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge
> Westfield Wins and covers.

On a hunch, I'll go with Stone Bridge.
>
> Mount Vernon @ TC Williams (-6.0)
> TC wins and covers. Welcome back to reality,
> Majors.

Agree. I think TCW wins by a TD, so that means they cover.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: September 20, 2016 09:52PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)

Woodson wins and covers

> Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run

Briar Woods had a ton of disastrous penalties last week and still managed to be in it until the final play. They get a double digit W.

> Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson

What the heck happened to Edison? That said, Jefferson lost a scrimmage to George Mason, so take the Eagles by two TDs

> Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)

Yorktown wins by three scores


> Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield


Falls Church wins, but only by 7


> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee


W-L had a brutal schedule to start the season, but they're still not good enough to cover.

> Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)


Chantilly routs 'em


> Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)


Stuart is legit, wins by double digits


> Madison (-14.0) @ Langley


Two touchdowns seems low. Take Madison


> Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)


Don't know squat about PF, but sure


> Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton


Robinson wins and covers


> South County (-20.0) @ West Springfield


South County rolls by at least 30

>
> South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean


South Lakes by clubbing. Take the points.


> Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)


C'ville by two TDs


> West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock

> *Upset pick

Agreed. West Potomac didn't play a great game last week and still won against a much bigger Briar Woods team. Haven't seen LB yet, but if West Po can get their passing game on track they seem pretty dangerous.


> Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge

Stone Bridge with the upset


> Mount Vernon @ TC Williams (-6.0)

Majors win by 14. Mount Vernon has hurt people with big plays. T.C. hasn't scored more than 20 points in a game yet.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf. 5 ()
Date: September 21, 2016 09:50PM

I got Herndon on the upset this week. @ Chantilly for their homecoming. Herndon upset last time they picked them as their homecoming. Watch for the upset.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 22, 2016 12:07AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)

Annandale covers. They're not that bad, Woodson's not that good.

> Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run

Briar Woods finally wins a close one.

> Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson

The biggest game of the year in the area. TJ dropped their regular non-district opponents to schedule three games they thought would be winnable, and got destroyed in all three. Edison has at least gotten slaughtered by real teams, so I'll go with the Eagles to cover.

> Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)

Worst Yorktown team in a long time but still good enough to cover here.

> Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield

Falls Church showed signs of life last week, Wakefield didn't. Jags cover.

> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee

Hayfield wins easy covers.

> Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)

Chantilly covers.

> Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)

Lee will do okay in district play and gets the win here.

> Madison (-14.0) @ Langley

Possible letdown for Madison here by they should cover.

> Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)

Potomac Falls had more trouble than expected with Langley last week but gets a close cover here.

> Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton

Robinson easy.

> South County (-20.0) @ West Springfield

Big spread. Spartans lose but cover.

> South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean

South Lakes unless they decide to give up late scores like last week.

> Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)

Not the same Tuscarora team as the last couple years, Centreville covers.

> West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *Upset pick

If LB puts the ball in their RBs hands I don't think West Po can stop them.

> Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge

Westfield.

> Mount Vernon @ TC Williams (-6.0)

No idea what to make of either team. Could be 35-7 either way and I wouldn't be surprised.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PubLe ()
Date: September 22, 2016 07:36PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hahahaha ()
Date: September 23, 2016 09:38PM

Westfield lost. Centreville lost. Robinson Lost.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Shocked man ()
Date: September 23, 2016 09:40PM

Well damn 6A North is really up for grabs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hec ()
Date: September 23, 2016 09:41PM

So I guess the only state champ contenders left are Madison, Lake Braddock
Westfield sucks
Centervillles gonna have another 4-6 season
Robinson just lost to Oakton who looked very dominating considering there missing multiple starters
West Potomic looks pretty good

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Seahawk ()
Date: September 23, 2016 09:45PM

Hec Wrote:
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> So I guess the only state champ contenders left
> are Madison, Lake Braddock
> Westfield sucks
> Centervillles gonna have another 4-6 season
> Robinson just lost to Oakton who looked very
> dominating considering there missing multiple
> starters
> West Potomic looks pretty good


Let's not forget South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: losers ()
Date: September 23, 2016 09:55PM

Madison and South Lakes...ha ha ha ha...play some big boy football before you step up and run your mouth....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Naww son you a loser ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:06PM

losers Wrote:
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> Madison and South Lakes...ha ha ha ha...play some
> big boy football before you step up and run your
> mouth....


Madison beat Stone Bridge who just destroyed Westfield, they also beat Oakton who beat Robinson so how are they not playing good teams. South Lakes almost beat Westfield last year they look alot better this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SB vs Westfield ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:28PM

Not too surprised that SB beat WF but the beat down, emasculating, run it down your throat manner in which they did so is surprising. As bad as it looked for Madison to have to move to the concord next year its starting to look like the concord won't be the same old concord it used to be.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:39PM

Westfield lost and they deserved to lose no doubt about it. I am in no way saying that Westfield is the team to beat but when have they ever been truly dominant in the regular season? They'll get better as the season progresses and when they get fully healthy. They won't be the dominant team that we thought they'd be but they have loads of talent and probably the best Coaching Staff in the area. They will be fine.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:42PM

Great game between West Po and LB. Bruin defense stepped up big time in OT.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Darthblazer67 ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:45PM

Madison beat Langley 33-14 or something like that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 23, 2016 10:45PM

I know though that I am delusional and am thinking of days gone by and wish Scanlon was still here to make sure everything ok and Westfield is still the bestest and does this still mean we can have the dixie cup parade tomorrow night and....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:06PM

...and South Lakes really ran up the score at hapless McLean 75-8...that is just not sporting on your opponents grounds.

Madison score confirmed as 33-14 against Langley

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: darthblazer67 ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:08PM

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:12PM

and...

...Madison's challenge is they play South Lakes away on 10/14 and Hayfield away to close the season. Any team that puts up 46 points on South County needs to be respected.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Coga ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:13PM

Oaktons back bitches

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:20PM

We are good and people do still love us, we are good and people do still love us, we are good and hopefully people still do love us....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pLcVv ()
Date: September 23, 2016 11:43PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Westfield lost and they deserved to lose no doubt
> about it. I am in no way saying that Westfield is
> the team to beat but when have they ever been
> truly dominant in the regular season? They'll get
> better as the season progresses and when they get
> fully healthy. They won't be the dominant team
> that we thought they'd be but they have loads of
> talent and probably the best Coaching Staff in the
> area. They will be fine.

I don't know about that. You can't fix size and toughness. There was nothing wrong with the way their defense played other than that they got physically overpowered. TC Williams showed everyone the way. Other than #93 their defensive line is is very soft. And without #23 and #32 their linebacking corps is way undersized - maybe 1 LB over 170 lbs? And without #6 their entire backfield is like 5-8 and maybe 160 lbs. Make no mistake, this was a beatdown and Westfield was thrashed on both lines of scrimmage.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: McLean ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:36AM

I was at the south lakes game. They are definitely very good.. But McLean wow. Looking at the roster south lakes was playing mostly Jv kids and even freshmen starting in the 2nd quarter.. It's like south lakes wasn't even trying to score but couldn't help it. It is beyond bad at McLean what happened?!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: September 24, 2016 07:59AM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Westfield lost and they deserved to lose no doubt
> about it. I am in no way saying that Westfield is
> the team to beat but when have they ever been
> truly dominant in the regular season? They'll get
> better as the season progresses and when they get
> fully healthy. They won't be the dominant team
> that we thought they'd be but they have loads of
> talent and probably the best Coaching Staff in the
> area. They will be fine.

I don't know about that. You can't fix size and toughness. There was nothing wrong with the way their defense played other than that they got physically overpowered. TC Williams showed everyone the way. Other than #93 their defensive line is is very soft. And without #23 and #32 their linebacking corps is way undersized - maybe 1 LB over 170 lbs? And without #6 their entire backfield is like 5-8 and maybe 160 lbs. Make no mistake, this was a beatdown and Westfield was thrashed on both lines of scrimmage.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree completely, it's been that way all season, what masked it was that WF hadn't played a physical opponent till last night. SOCO is not a physical team, nor is W&L, TC Williams somewhat, but none are in the category of Stone Bridge. What was amazing is SB just kept running the same plays and WF couldn't stop them. SB's ball carriers ran over and through the WF defense. Even with #23 & #32 the outcome most probably would've been the same, maybe not so lopsided. Anyone who watched this team in preseason, and took a realistic view, could see this happening. This is one of the smallest WF teams I've seen in a longtime, to make matters worse not very deep either. The play calling on offense was also very questionable. But that's nothing new for anyone who's watched this team for the past few years. Bottom line is this is an above average team, good thing for WF that it appears the rest of 6A North is pretty much as well. I'm still not sold on LB, they've got a couple really good players, just like most of the top teams, but that's it. I would say more so than anytime in recent memory the region is up for grabs. Just my opinion, I'm sure many will disagree....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: September 24, 2016 08:07AM

Watcher of WF football Wrote:
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> WF Fan Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------
> ------
> > Westfield lost and they deserved to lose no
> doubt
> > about it. I am in no way saying that Westfield
> is
> > the team to beat but when have they ever been
> > truly dominant in the regular season? They'll
> get
> > better as the season progresses and when they
> get
> > fully healthy. They won't be the dominant team
> > that we thought they'd be but they have loads
> of
> > talent and probably the best Coaching Staff in
> the
> > area. They will be fine.
>
> I don't know about that. You can't fix size and
> toughness. There was nothing wrong with the way
> their defense played other than that they got
> physically overpowered. TC Williams showed
> everyone the way. Other than #93 their defensive
> line is is very soft. And without #23 and #32
> their linebacking corps is way undersized - maybe
> 1 LB over 170 lbs? And without #6 their entire
> backfield is like 5-8 and maybe 160 lbs. Make no
> mistake, this was a beatdown and Westfield was
> thrashed on both lines of scrimmage.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -------------------
>
> I agree completely, it's been that way all season,
> what masked it was that WF hadn't played a
> physical opponent till last night. SOCO is not a
> physical team, nor is W&L, TC Williams somewhat,
> but none are in the category of Stone Bridge. What
> was amazing is SB just kept running the same plays
> and WF couldn't stop them. SB's ball carriers ran
> over and through the WF defense. Even with #23 &
> #32 the outcome most probably would've been the
> same, maybe not so lopsided. Anyone who watched
> this team in preseason, and took a realistic view,
> could see this happening. This is one of the
> smallest WF teams I've seen in a longtime, to make
> matters worse not very deep either. The play
> calling on offense was also very questionable. But
> that's nothing new for anyone who's watched this
> team for the past few years. Bottom line is this
> is an above average team, good thing for WF that
> it appears the rest of 6A North is pretty much as
> well. I'm still not sold on LB, they've got a
> couple really good players, just like most of the
> top teams, but that's it. I would say more so than
> anytime in recent memory the region is up for
> grabs. Just my opinion, I'm sure many will
> disagree....


BTW, SB had 461 rushing yards on 54 attempts against WF's defense, 8.5 yards per carry. That speaks volumes of how small and weak WF's defense is!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:04AM

Here are the results from this week, there were a number of surprises. As one of you alluded to, I am shocked Centreville, Westfield, and Robinson went down on the same night. This is the most up for grabs I have seen the region in at least the last 10 years. There is no team that is really that good this year. After seeing Braddock and Robinson in person, I was ready to write both off and pick Westfield as usual, but then last night happened and I am unsure of myself. This might be the year for the Liberty, and all of a sudden Hayfield, South Lakes, and Madison become legitimate region contenders to go along with South County, Lake Braddock, West Potomac and the Concorde schools as they sort themselves out.

Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)
*Woodson won 32-8

Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run
*Broad Run won 36-21, Loudoun score so don’t hold it against me!

Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson
*Edison won 48-0; the same Edison that had been outscored by 150+ their first 3 games, TJ is in trouble this year as that was the easiest team remaining on their schedule.

Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)
*Yorktown won 41-0. The bottom is pretty bad as strong as the top of the conference is.

Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield
*Falls Church won 49-21. Falls Church looks like the favorite to win their conference.

Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Hayfield won 54-29.

Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)
*Chantilly won 26-7

Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)
*Lee beat Stuart 28-12.

Madison (-14.0) @ Langley
*Madison beat Langley 33-14.

Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)
*Potomac Falls beat Marshall 54-20.

Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton beat Robinson 21-7. The problem is if a team refuses to pass and only has one elite back he can be stopped. Robinson is going to have to do something different offensively.

West Springfield @ South County (-20.0)
*South County won 51-25.

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean
*South Lakes won 75-8

Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)
*Tuscarora won 21-14. I haven’t seen Centreville play yet, but this one surprised me.
West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
*Upset pick came close, Lake Braddock won 24-21 in overtime.

Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge
*Stone Bridge won 34-16.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hdhb ()
Date: September 24, 2016 10:51AM

Westfield can't even beat a fucking 5A team. Might as well cancel the rest of the season and starting basketball practice.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Idiot ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:03AM

Westfield was emasculated - top to bottom. However, don't disparage 5A teams. ^A teams should rout 5A, but typically don't.

They often beat the local 6A teams. Better coaching in Loudoun than Fairfax. Top coaches in Loudoun tool on Fairfax's best.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tidbits ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:30AM

Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)
*Woodson won 32-8

Woodson is now strong enough of a program to roll over the dregs, but still get beat up on by the best 6 or 7 teams in the region. And beat badly.
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Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run
*Broad Run won 36-21, Loudoun score so don’t hold it against me!

Broad Run still has Oakton, Robinson, and Stone Bridge to play. Tough schedule, but very good team. Once again this year, Briar is now the best 1-4 team in the state!

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Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson
*Edison won 48-0; the same Edison that had been outscored by 150+ their first 3 games, TJ is in trouble this year as that was the easiest team remaining on their schedule.

Jefferson should fold their football program - hell, all programs except for tennis and ping pong. Edison? Still horrific, just not as horrific as TJ.

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Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)
*Yorktown won 41-0. The bottom is pretty bad as strong as the top of the
conference is.

Never had a year where bottom tier teams are so putrid. Fairfax is one of those. Hell, so is Yorktown. Shows how far Rebels has fallen.

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Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield
*Falls Church won 49-21. Falls Church looks like the favorite to win their conference.

You are probably correct. Falls Church got beat by Potomac Falls by 32, yet the only game left they will lose is against Oakton. Maybe the worst 7-3 team in the state this year. Will get manhandled again in the playoffs.
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Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Hayfield won 54-29.

Hayfield is better this year. Not great, but better. Arlington schools are absolutely atrocious. All of them.
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Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)
*Chantilly won 26-7


Chantilly stinks, yet won by almost 20. Herndon demographics mean that this school will never be good at football again. Soccer? Yes.

Swimming? Across the river? Yes. They should audible in Spanish.

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Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)
*Lee beat Stuart 28-12.

It is that demographics thing again. That, and pussified white parents no longer allowing their little princes to play football for fear of drain bamage. Both teams are embarrassing.

Both schools named after racist white guys.

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Madison (-14.0) @ Langley
*Madison beat Langley 33-14.


That Madison win over Stone Bridge looks a little more impressive now, doesn't it? Langley should join TJ and give up football.

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Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)
*Potomac Falls beat Marshall 54-20.

Ugh - Marshall has reverted back to primordial ooze status. Woeful. PF is solid.

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Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton beat Robinson 21-7. The problem is if a team refuses to pass and only has one elite back he can be stopped. Robinson is going to have to do something different offensively.

Let's pump the brakes a little on this one, shall we? Oakton is not going to get hot and make a run to the states this time, Cougar fans. Robinson? Might be missing a little in the ol' heart department. Forward pass? Ever heard of it?

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West Springfield @ South County (-20.0)
*South County won 51-25.

God, SC loves to roll it up on the Little Sisters of the Poor, don't they? Still wide, wide open Region this year. Who the hell knows?
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South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean
*South Lakes won 75-8

I can't believe Madison only scored 42 against the Highlanders. Must have brought full compliment of freshman to play 2nd half.

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Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)
*Tuscarora won 21-14. I haven’t seen Centreville play yet, but this one surprised me.

Case in point. Tuscarora coach sees that Wildcats can't run, takes away the pass, and wins despite having weakest team he has had since 1st year of program. Centreville should be ashamed of themselves for this one. Tsk, tsk,
Haddock.

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West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
*Upset pick came close, Lake Braddock won 24-21 in overtime.

Just shows that we have no juggernauts this year. Quite a game.

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Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge
*Stone Bridge won 34-16.


Look on the bright side. At least now those idiots from Westfield that always post here will feel stupid and silly when they post more drivel. I mean, wow, what an ass kicking. And it is not like they haven't seen Stone Bridge before.

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Look later this week for our Bottom Ten Poll to come out. Lots of competition!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dbfromnva ()
Date: September 24, 2016 11:41AM

"Tuscarora didn't take away the pass. Cville QB missed numerous wide open receivers at least 2 should have been easy TD's. Thought I was watching Kirk Cousins against the Cowboys. Also back judge(#6) ignored at least 2 blatant PI's. But Tuscarora deserved to win they outplayed and out coached Cville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield say What? ()
Date: September 24, 2016 12:40PM

Red Cups for tears...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: McLean Alum ()
Date: September 24, 2016 01:24PM

I have never seen a worse McLean football team. I'm embarrassed that this is what the program has come to. Horrendous. This coach may have ruined the entire program forever.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 24, 2016 02:42PM

Idiot Wrote:
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> However, don't disparage 5A teams. ^A teams should
> rout 5A, but typically don't.

A true sign of a newbie that doesn't know or understand anything about football or sports in general at the high school level: thinks student enrollment is the primary indicator of on field performance. No. A 6A school should NOT necessarily "rout" a 5A team.

>
> They often beat the local 6A teams. Better
> coaching in Loudoun than Fairfax. Top coaches in
> Loudoun tool on Fairfax's best.

Again. No. Fairfax has excellent coaches - many better some not - than Loudoun. Loudoun football is seriously overrated by the preening football clinger-on's. It's not better than Fairfax football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 24, 2016 02:48PM

footballveteran Wrote:
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> Idiot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > However, don't disparage 5A teams. ^A teams
> should
> > rout 5A, but typically don't.
>
> A true sign of a newbie that doesn't know or
> understand anything about football or sports in
> general at the high school level: thinks student
> enrollment is the primary indicator of on field
> performance. No. A 6A school should NOT
> necessarily "rout" a 5A team.
>
> >
> > They often beat the local 6A teams. Better
> > coaching in Loudoun than Fairfax. Top coaches
> in
> > Loudoun tool on Fairfax's best.
>
> Again. No. Fairfax has excellent coaches - many
> better some not - than Loudoun. Loudoun football
> is seriously overrated by the preening football
> clinger-on's. It's not better than Fairfax
> football.

Again, see how this works? Heads I Win, Tails You Lose. 6A wins vs 5A: gets no credit because they "should" win. 5A wins vs 6A: see how much better our program is than theirs? SMH

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 24, 2016 03:01PM

A review of how I did

Steve K Wrote:
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> Here are the results from this week, there were a
> number of surprises. As one of you alluded to, I
> am shocked Centreville, Westfield, and Robinson
> went down on the same night. This is the most up
> for grabs I have seen the region in at least the
> last 10 years. There is no team that is really
> that good this year. After seeing Braddock and
> Robinson in person, I was ready to write both off
> and pick Westfield as usual, but then last night
> happened and I am unsure of myself. This might be
> the year for the Liberty, and all of a sudden
> Hayfield, South Lakes, and Madison become
> legitimate region contenders to go along with
> South County, Lake Braddock, West Potomac and the
> Concorde schools as they sort themselves out.
>
> Annandale @ Woodson (-21.0)
> *Woodson won 32-8

Predicted Woodson to win and cover (but was nervous about it). Got this one right.
>
> Briar Woods (-1.0) @ Broad Run
> *Broad Run won 36-21, Loudoun score so don’t
> hold it against me!

I got this one wrong as well, but I don't know much about Loudon football either.
>
> Edison (-6.0) @ Jefferson
> *Edison won 48-0; the same Edison that had been
> outscored by 150+ their first 3 games, TJ is in
> trouble this year as that was the easiest team
> remaining on their schedule.

I took Edison and gave the points. I got this one right.

>
> Fairfax @ Yorktown (-14.0)
> *Yorktown won 41-0. The bottom is pretty bad as
> strong as the top of the conference is.

I got this one right. To be honest, I was waivering a bit on this, but glad I went with my gut. It seems like the new coach took over a program in worse shape than might have been expected, and it might take more than a year to repair that damage.
>
> Falls Church (-10.0) @ Wakefield
> *Falls Church won 49-21. Falls Church looks like
> the favorite to win their conference.

I took Falls Church to win, but not cover. I guess I underestimated Falls Church. I'm not sure they'll win their conference; I would expect it to be between them and Marshall.
>
> Hayfield (-20.0) @ Washington-Lee
> *Hayfield won 54-29.

I took Hayfield to win and cover and got this right. However, I expected a bigger blowout for Hayfield. Is this a letdown for Hayfield after their tough loss last week, or is W-L starting to get better? FWIW, W-L did improve over the course of last season, so it could happen again.
>
> Herndon @ Chantilly (-8.5)
> *Chantilly won 26-7

I took Chantilly to win and cover, and they did. Got this one right.
>
> Lee @ Stuart (-3.0)
> *Lee beat Stuart 28-12.

I took Stuart to win and cover. Got this one really wrong.
>
> Madison (-14.0) @ Langley
> *Madison beat Langley 33-14.

I took Madison to win and cover. Got this one right.


>
> Marshall @ Potomac Falls (-17.0)
> *Potomac Falls beat Marshall 54-20.

I took Potomac Falls to win and cover. Got this one right.
>
> Robinson (-7.0) @ Oakton
> *Oakton beat Robinson 21-7. The problem is if a
> team refuses to pass and only has one elite back
> he can be stopped. Robinson is going to have to
> do something different offensively.

I took Robo to win and cover. I really blew it on this one. I guess whatever was bothering Oakton, they have managed to solve it.

>
> West Springfield @ South County (-20.0)
> *South County won 51-25.

My prediction was, very nervously, for South County to win and cover, but barely. South County won. They covered. But barely. Got all of that right.
>
> South Lakes (-28.0) @ Mclean
> *South Lakes won 75-8

I said that the line on this game wasn't big enough. Little did I expect that South Lakes would cover that line in the first quarter. Hard to see how Mclean wins anything this year, even against some of the worst teams in Liberty.
>
> Tuscarora @ Centreville (-10.0)
> *Tuscarora won 21-14. I haven’t seen
> Centreville play yet, but this one surprised me.

I said Centreville would win and cover. Really blew it here.
>
> West Potomac (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *Upset pick came close, Lake Braddock won 24-21 in
> overtime.

Thanks for making this an upset pick. I took lake Braddock and the points.
>
> Westfield (-6.0) @ Stone Bridge
> *Stone Bridge won 34-16.

On a hunch, I took Stone Bridge. Got that right.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fightin titans ()
Date: September 24, 2016 03:35PM

TC 35 MV 34

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vhslvhsl ()
Date: September 24, 2016 04:00PM

i thought block was playing for briar wood last year. how is it he is playing for stone brigde this season? how does stone brigde keep getting these atheletes?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Veteran Is a Fuck Stick ()
Date: September 24, 2016 04:03PM

Ok, tool time, explain how you have come to be a "football veteran" and know more than the rest of us? Try and follow, even as you breathe through your mouth: Schools with larger enrollments should be better than schools with smaller enrollments. This is not college, where there are nothing but recruits and the size of the student body has no bearing on how a team does. This is high school. Why do you think they even have divisions then? Try and refute this: Ok, so Centreville, Robinson and Westfield have had solid programs for years. So have Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone Bridge. So, Robinson and Westfield have 5600 students between them. Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone Bridge have 5450 Make up top two teams from each group and Loudoun wins each game by three touchdowns or more. Since you are simple, I will put it another way. Westfield has 2850 students. Stone Bridge has 1910. If you don't think that the extra 960 students gives them an advantage, you are simply a moron. I imagine if the schools were the same size, Stone Bridge would beat Westfield by 20 or more. Oh, wait, never mind. They don't need the extra kids to beat Westfield by 20! And if you don't think that Burnett from Tuscarora outcoached Haddock from Centreville to beat him last night, well, then there is no sense even trying to argue with an idiot such as yourself.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: September 24, 2016 06:30PM

Football Veteran Is a Fuck Stick Wrote:
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> Ok, tool time, explain how you have come to be a
> "football veteran" and know more than the rest of
> us? Try and follow, even as you breathe through
> your mouth: Schools with larger enrollments should
> be better than schools with smaller enrollments.
> This is not college, where there are nothing but
> recruits and the size of the student body has no
> bearing on how a team does. This is high school.
> Why do you think they even have divisions then?
> Try and refute this: Ok, so Centreville, Robinson
> and Westfield have had solid programs for years.
> So have Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone Bridge.
> So, Robinson and Westfield have 5600 students
> between them. Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone
> Bridge have 5450 Make up top two teams from each
> group and Loudoun wins each game by three
> touchdowns or more. Since you are simple, I will
> put it another way. Westfield has 2850 students.
> Stone Bridge has 1910. If you don't think that the
> extra 960 students gives them an advantage, you
> are simply a moron. I imagine if the schools were
> the same size, Stone Bridge would beat Westfield
> by 20 or more. Oh, wait, never mind. They don't
> need the extra kids to beat Westfield by 20! And
> if you don't think that Burnett from Tuscarora
> outcoached Haddock from Centreville to beat him
> last night, well, then there is no sense even
> trying to argue with an idiot such as yourself.


Stone Bridge was definetly the better team last night but where did Westfield get 2850 kids from lol? They are nowhere near that. And let's not act like Loudoun County Schools don't have better demographics.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: West Po alum ()
Date: September 24, 2016 06:40PM

Let's go West Po! Gonna have to go check out one of their games. I see we're off to a good start.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:14PM

Football Veteran Is a Fuck Stick Wrote:
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> Ok, tool time, explain how you have come to be a
> "football veteran" and know more than the rest of
> us? Try and follow, even as you breathe through
> your mouth: Schools with larger enrollments should
> be better than schools with smaller enrollments.
> This is not college, where there are nothing but
> recruits and the size of the student body has no
> bearing on how a team does. This is high school.
> Why do you think they even have divisions then?
> Try and refute this: Ok, so Centreville, Robinson
> and Westfield have had solid programs for years.
> So have Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone Bridge.
> So, Robinson and Westfield have 5600 students
> between them. Broad Run, Tuscarora, and Stone
> Bridge have 5450 Make up top two teams from each
> group and Loudoun wins each game by three
> touchdowns or more. Since you are simple, I will
> put it another way. Westfield has 2850 students.
> Stone Bridge has 1910. If you don't think that the
> extra 960 students gives them an advantage, you
> are simply a moron. I imagine if the schools were
> the same size, Stone Bridge would beat Westfield
> by 20 or more. Oh, wait, never mind. They don't
> need the extra kids to beat Westfield by 20! And
> if you don't think that Burnett from Tuscarora
> outcoached Haddock from Centreville to beat him
> last night, well, then there is no sense even
> trying to argue with an idiot such as yourself.

Sir - I refute your naive assertions. There are SO many other factors than student enrollment that are far more important in the performance of a football team. You are looking at a very artificial and unimportant factor.

So if a 6A school has 700 more students than a 5A school you say it is clear cut that they have an advantage. I say not necessarily. There are many 5A schools that have vastly larger numbers of kids going out for football than 6A schools. If a 5A school has a 100 kids going out for football and a 6A school has 45 - which one do you think has a better chance of fielding a better football team?

Geez... and that's only ONE factor and it is MORE important than total student enrollment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Refute This... ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:32PM

Do you have ANYTHING to back up what you say? If you think the Loudoun schools I mentioned have more kids coming out for football than the three Fairfax schools, then you are sadly mistaken. What 5A schools have more kids coming out than 6A? Maybe Jefferson and Fairfax, etc, but I am not even considering those, since Loudoun beats those schools black and blue. The successful Fairfax schools have much larger enrollments, more kids trying out. Share some of your other factors...

Westfield numbers come from VHSL numbers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:33PM

Football Veteran Is a Fuck Stick Wrote:
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> And if you don't think that Burnett from Tuscarora
> outcoached Haddock from Centreville to beat him
> last night, well, then there is no sense even
> trying to argue with an idiot such as yourself.

Typical misdirection argument. Show me where I said Burnett didn't outcoach Haddock last night. Did I say that? No. You made this up in your own head. Now if you are saying Haddock is not a good coach than you are the idiot.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cheer ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:46PM

How about those Bulldog Cheerleaders. A little tipsy at the game?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 24, 2016 09:50PM

Refute This... Wrote:
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> Do you have ANYTHING to back up what you say?

No sir. Only what coaches and parents tell me. And I can see varsity rosters with my own eyes. I mean Stone Bridge does have more kids listed on their varsity football roster than Westfield, Chantilly and Madison. Now I don't know what that means but it could be that even though Westfield, Chantilly and Madison are larger schools they might be having fewer kids playing football than Stone Bridge. I could be wrong...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No more trolls? ()
Date: September 25, 2016 06:38AM

Well, at least those damn WF trolls will stop spamming the board.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: So, Mr. Football Veteran ()
Date: September 25, 2016 07:46AM

... you admit that you have nothing to back up what you say? You, Sir, are not a football veteran....

You are a Democrat!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 25, 2016 08:26AM

Centreville is a pop Warner team at best, players are lazy and font listen to the coaches,,the team sucks and will never amount to shit...bottom feeders

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Laying some truth on you all ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:09AM

Congrats to Westfield for throwing the game against Stone Bridge. Coach had the kids lay down on this one to keep the rest of the teams from quitting. Westfield: doing the right thing again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steroids ()
Date: September 25, 2016 08:28PM

What area teams juice to get bigger & faster. It doesn't look like 2016 version of Westfield is? Their just too small & slow compared to last year's teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: September 25, 2016 09:09PM

Hmmm...let's see Stone Bridge's former quarterback Ryan Burns is starting QB at Stanford. You know...that really shabby school on the west coast.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Stone Bridge ()
Date: September 25, 2016 10:06PM

Stone Bridge is clearly the best team to ever play in Virginia or in the US for that matter.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: EHSFTBLL ()
Date: September 26, 2016 03:30PM

Edison with a dominant 48-0 victory over Jefferson is the team to beat!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A Ranker of Football ()
Date: September 26, 2016 04:00PM

6A North Top 10?

1.Lake Braddock
2.Madison
3.South Lakes
4.West Potomac
5.Westfield
6.South County
7.Robinson
8.Centreville
9.Battlefield
10.TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Waterboy ()
Date: September 26, 2016 04:40PM

6A North Top 10

1.Lake Braddock - Stud RB & very hungry
2.Madison - underrated beat a good SB team
3.South Lakes - Maybe this is the year
4.West Potomac - have not heard much.
5.Westfield - O-line & D-line are small. Secondary is even smaller. Overrated with limited running game.
6.South County - Have the athletes, need focus.
7.TC Williams - underrated have some studs
8.Robinson - need to pass pass pass
9.Centreville - overrated coach and team.
10.Battlefield - always good

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CKmc9 ()
Date: September 26, 2016 05:08PM

Waterboy Wrote:
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> 6A North Top 10
>
> 1.Lake Braddock - Stud RB & very hungry
> 2.Madison - underrated beat a good SB team
> 3.South Lakes - Maybe this is the year
> 4.West Potomac - have not heard much.
> 5.Westfield - O-line & D-line are small. Secondary
> is even smaller. Overrated with limited running
> game.
> 6.South County - Have the athletes, need focus.
> 7.TC Williams - underrated have some studs
> 8.Robinson - need to pass pass pass
> 9.Centreville - overrated coach and team.
> 10.Battlefield - always good

What about Oakton?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 26, 2016 07:33PM

Stop hating on Westfield's secondary they've actually been very good.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CKmc9 ()
Date: September 26, 2016 07:34PM

I will hate all I want because I uniquely know and understand football in the Northern Region so what I say is the truth.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: zcb ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:01PM

Waterboy Wrote:
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> 6A North Top 10
>
> 1.Lake Braddock - Stud RB & very hungry
> 2.Madison - underrated beat a good SB team
> 3.South Lakes - Maybe this is the year
> 4.West Potomac - have not heard much.
> 5.Westfield - O-line & D-line are small. Secondary
> is even smaller. Overrated with limited running
> game.
> 6.South County - Have the athletes, need focus.
> 7.TC Williams - underrated have some studs
> 8.Robinson - need to pass pass pass
> 9.Centreville - overrated coach and team.
> 10.Battlefield - always good

Awful rankings, please explain why Robinson or C'Ville are in these rankings.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:04PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: WF Fan ()

Date: September 26, 2016 07:33PM


Stop hating on Westfield's secondary they've actually been very good.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

You're kidding right? Yeah, the one small Westfield DB picked off a few passes the other night, one was tipped and one was a horrible throw. Both right to him, would've been pretty tough to miss. But both he and one other DB repeatedly whiffed on tackles or were just plain run over and threw by the Stone Bridge athletes all night. For that matter there were a number of defenders that looked awful for WF but the two mentioned above were the most pathetic. On the last long TD run the one DB actually attempts to shoulder the SB player to the ground. You're kidding right, kid for SB weighs about 215 pounds, the undersized DB for WF maybe 145. Westfield's secondary is abysmal now that their best DB is out for the season. What most surprises me is how SB just gutted WF up the middle all night, averaging about 8.5 yards per carry. WF appears to have some heavyweights on the interior of the D-line but they are not stout at all. Defense wins championships so WF should be concerned cause this by far is the weakest D they've had in awhile.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: zcb ()
Date: September 26, 2016 08:17PM

I ask again why are they in the ratings - I am all knowing I know exactly how these teams will end up - listen to me, listen to me!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: September 26, 2016 09:32PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: zcb ()

Date: September 26, 2016 08:17PM


I ask again why are they in the ratings - I am all knowing I know exactly how these teams will end up - listen to me, listen to me!

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Why is Battlefield on the list, they lost to Riverbend who's 2-3 and North Stafford.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nahnahnahnah ()
Date: September 27, 2016 07:10AM

Bottom 4 need to be adjusted. Hayfield is in that mix.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: September 27, 2016 09:00AM

Watcher of WF football Wrote:
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> You're kidding right? Yeah, the one small
> Westfield DB picked off a few passes the other
> night, one was tipped and one was a horrible
> throw. Both right to him, would've been pretty
> tough to miss. But both he and one other DB
> repeatedly whiffed on tackles or were just plain
> run over and threw by the Stone Bridge athletes
> all night. For that matter there were a number of
> defenders that looked awful for WF but the two
> mentioned above were the most pathetic. On the
> last long TD run the one DB actually attempts to
> shoulder the SB player to the ground. You're
> kidding right, kid for SB weighs about 215 pounds,
> the undersized DB for WF maybe 145. Westfield's
> secondary is abysmal now that their best DB is out
> for the season. What most surprises me is how SB
> just gutted WF up the middle all night, averaging
> about 8.5 yards per carry. WF appears to have some
> heavyweights on the interior of the D-line but
> they are not stout at all. Defense wins
> championships so WF should be concerned cause this
> by far is the weakest D they've had in awhile.

Getting a little harsh here. I think should back off a tad. Kids can’t help if they are the best players available. You play with what you got. Secondary play has been adequate. Complaining about a DB not making an open field tackle downfield. How did RB get there. And the kid made the catches on those picks. Give him some credit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Planks ()
Date: September 27, 2016 10:22AM

Waterboy Wrote:
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> 6A North Top 10
>
> 1.Lake Braddock - Stud RB & very hungry
> 2.Madison - underrated beat a good SB team
> 3.South Lakes - Maybe this is the year
> 4.West Potomac - have not heard much.
> 5.Westfield - O-line & D-line are small. Secondary
> is even smaller. Overrated with limited running
> game.
> 6.South County - Have the athletes, need focus.
> 7.TC Williams - underrated have some studs
> 8.Robinson - need to pass pass pass
> 9.Centreville - overrated coach and team.
> 10.Battlefield - always good
Horrible list Centreville and Robinson don't belong in this list, Hayfeild and Oakton have to be on this list, Hell Oakton might make top 5 if they manage to beat Westfield it's not impossible

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A Ranker of Football ()
Date: September 27, 2016 11:23AM

In my hurry I forgot about a few teams yes. I think the 16 playoff teams would come from the below?

1. Lake Braddock (4-0)
2. Madison (4-0)
3. South Lakes (4-0)
4. West Potomac (3-1)
5. Westfield (3-1)
6. South County (3-1)
7. Hayfield (3-1)
9. Oakton (2-2)
10. TC Williams (2-2)
11. Centreville (3-1)
12. Robinson (2-2)
13. Battlefield (3-2)
14. Woodson (3-1)
15. Annandale (2-3)
16. Chantilly (2-2)
17. Patriot (3-2)
18. Mount Vernon (3-1)
19. West Springfield (1-3)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pulier ()
Date: September 27, 2016 06:03PM

Mt. Vernon should at least be ranked ahead of Annandale.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SidelineDad ()
Date: September 27, 2016 06:16PM

Did anybody witness the embarassing confrontation between a foul-mouthed West Po Dad and the West Po coaching staff at the WestPo-Lake Braddock game last Friday night? I was standing nearby with my teenage daughter when the blowhard came charging out of the stands toward the Wolverine bench. It looked like a police officer was about to put the cuffs on him before he finally shut up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 27, 2016 06:37PM

6A Ranker of Football Wrote:
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> In my hurry I forgot about a few teams yes. I
> think the 16 playoff teams would come from the
> below?
>
> 1. Lake Braddock (4-0)
> 2. Madison (4-0)
> 3. South Lakes (4-0)
> 4. West Potomac (3-1)
> 5. Westfield (3-1)
> 6. South County (3-1)
> 7. Hayfield (3-1)
> 9. Oakton (2-2)
> 10. TC Williams (2-2)
> 11. Centreville (3-1)
> 12. Robinson (2-2)
> 13. Battlefield (3-2)
> 14. Woodson (3-1)
> 15. Annandale (2-3)
> 16. Chantilly (2-2)
> 17. Patriot (3-2)
> 18. Mount Vernon (3-1)
> 19. West Springfield (1-3)


You skipped a number. You have only 18 teams on this list.

With 18 teams listed, two on this list won't make it.

As far as the list goes, you list every team that is in Conference 7. They will all be playing each other over the next six weeks, so there will be a lot of losses racked up. I don't think that it's mathematically possible for all 8 Conference 7 teams will make it. The Conference 7 team I'd drop would be Annandale.

I would also add Yorktown, from Conference 6. It's not because they are particularly good, but if they emerge from the bottom of Conference 6, beating all four of the bottom 5 teams (I don't see them or anyone else in Liberty beating Madison, SL, or Hayfield), that gets them 5 wins, and that record might be good enough to get in. Again, it's not because they are particularly good, it's the way the math will work.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: figure this out ()
Date: September 27, 2016 07:08PM

Lake Braddock Madison, James South Lakes Westfield
South County Centreville Hayfield Woodson, W. T. Battlefield
Mount Vernon West Potomac Williams, T.C. Oakton Robinson, James Chantilly Yorktown
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: too easy ()
Date: September 27, 2016 08:36PM

Current 6A playoff rankings

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: September 27, 2016 11:44PM

SidelineDad Wrote:
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> Did anybody witness the embarassing confrontation
> between a foul-mouthed West Po Dad and the West Po
> coaching staff at the WestPo-Lake Braddock game
> last Friday night? I was standing nearby with my
> teenage daughter when the blowhard came charging
> out of the stands toward the Wolverine bench. It
> looked like a police officer was about to put the
> cuffs on him before he finally shut up.


Was at the game and totally missed this. When did it happen? And who would want to fight West Po's coach, lol.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lmaooo ()
Date: September 28, 2016 12:32AM

why does TJ cancel their football program? Have not won a game since October 2013.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SidelineDad ()
Date: September 28, 2016 01:03PM

Re WestPo Dad: It was in the final minute of regulation. The dad came down from the stands screaming about the playcalling. F'n this. F'n that. Coach came over and told him he didn't understand the play. The dad said "F... You. That's my son out there." That's when the cop came over. A tip of the hat to the cop. It was an ugly situation. Sorry my daughter had to witness it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fat Bastard ()
Date: September 28, 2016 01:58PM

Sure it wasn't Henderson...? he might have been hungry...get in my belly...your lucky you and your daughter escaped...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Lil' late ()
Date: September 28, 2016 04:33PM

Henderson lost a crap ton of weight though. Can't post any pictures, but he is pretty damn slim now.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Taco charlton ()
Date: September 28, 2016 04:47PM

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Just count it as another page in the storybook career of Tim Tebow.

Tebow, on the first pitch of his first organized game since his junior year of high school, hit a 91 mph fastball over the left-center wall for a home run. After circling the bases, Tebow was greeted at the plate by his New York Mets instructional league teammates, who had poured out of the dugout.


Tim Tebow celebrates as he rounds the bases after hitting a home run on his very first pitch of an instructional league game Wednesday. AP Photo/Luis M. Alvarez
Tebow, a former Heisman Trophy winner and NFL quarterback, had quietly taken those teenagers out to dinner Monday and to a movie Tuesday after intrasquad games.

The crowd, announced by the Mets at 269, also erupted as Tebow connected and circled the bases.

The long ball came off 6-foot-5 left-hander John Kilichowski, who was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the 11th round out of Vanderbilt University in June.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hot Stuff Coming Through ()
Date: September 28, 2016 04:50PM

Right wing Wrote:
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> What the fuck is wrong with you right wing nuts.
> First trump and now all this homosexuality on this
> board. Why can't we enjoy the topic of this forum.
> This is why websites like ESPN and etc switched
> to signing up through your Facebook account so you
> dumb ass trolls would piped down. This is an
> embarrassment to our county, state snd country.
> We're better than this

these boys are hot!
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: edhEN ()
Date: September 28, 2016 04:51PM

6A Ranker of Football Wrote:
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> In my hurry I forgot about a few teams yes. I
> think the 16 playoff teams would come from the
> below?
>
> 1. Lake Braddock (4-0)
> 2. Madison (4-0)
> 3. South Lakes (4-0)
> 4. West Potomac (3-1)
> 5. Westfield (3-1)
> 6. South County (3-1)
> 7. Hayfield (3-1)
> 9. Oakton (2-2)
> 10. TC Williams (2-2)
> 11. Centreville (3-1)
> 12. Robinson (2-2)
> 13. Battlefield (3-2)
> 14. Woodson (3-1)
> 15. Annandale (2-3)
> 16. Chantilly (2-2)
> 17. Patriot (3-2)
> 18. Mount Vernon (3-1)
> 19. West Springfield (1-3)

Wow this is the best VA and NOVA has to offer? This state sucks at football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jFKNe ()
Date: September 28, 2016 05:06PM

Looking at VA top recruits. Wrote:
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> The state doesn't seem to have the talent it once
> did.


yeah not good at all.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: thXcD ()
Date: September 28, 2016 06:24PM

Yummy
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 4GkPV ()
Date: September 28, 2016 06:59PM

jFKNe Wrote:
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> Looking at VA top recruits. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The state doesn't seem to have the talent it
> once
> > did.
>
>
> yeah not good at all.


Compared to what? Not that bad.


http://www.maxpreps.com/news/rDS7KHYixES71M6h_exc8g/number-of-nfl-players-who-played-high-school-football-in-each-state.htm

NFL opening weekend rosters by state

239 – Florida
220 – California
214 – Texas
119 – Georgia
94 – Ohio
68 – Alabama
68 – Pennsylvania
62 – Louisiana
60 – North Carolina
58 – New Jersey
57 – South Carolina
50 – Virginia
49 – Michigan
46 – Illinois
39 – Maryland
33 – Missouri
32 – New York
34 – Tennessee
33 – Mississippi
29 – Arizona
28 – Wisconsin
26 – Outside the United States
22 – Washington
20 – Minnesota
18 – Indiana
18 – Oklahoma
17 – Connecticut
16 – Utah
16 – Colorado
16 – Oregon
15 – Kansas
14 – Arkansas
14 – Iowa
14 – Kentucky
13 – Nebraska
11 – Nevada
11 – Hawaii
10 – District of Columbia
8 – Massachusetts
7 – Montana
7 – Delaware
5 – Idaho
4 – New Mexico
3 – North Dakota
3 – South Dakota
2 – West Virginia
2 – New Hampshire
1 – Rhode Island
1 – Wyoming
0 – Alaska, Maine, Vermont

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westpotwolverines ()
Date: September 28, 2016 09:04PM

So how good is West Potomac? Their best win is by 3 over a 1-4 Briar Woods. So they are 3-0 against teams that are combined 2-11. But they did play Lake Braddock into OT. ARe they a contneder for northern region?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PO PO is POO POO ()
Date: September 28, 2016 10:30PM

West Po was outplayed by a very average Briar Woods team. They really were lucky to escape... however.... all of the top teams are flawed this year, more so than any other year in recent memory. ALL of them. No state champs will come from North Region this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FPj3N ()
Date: September 28, 2016 10:51PM

PO PO is POO POO Wrote:
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> all of the top teams are flawed this
> year, more so than any other year in recent
> memory. ALL of them. No state champs will come
> from North Region this year.

That is the refrain EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Yet the Northern Region has come home with the state championship 2 of the last 3 seasons.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: McLean alum 2 ()
Date: September 29, 2016 11:41AM

The Game of the Century McLean vs Fairfax

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sum dude ()
Date: September 29, 2016 06:51PM

Can someone post this week's games? Don't care for the spread, just the matchups.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 29, 2016 08:25PM

Briar Woods (-28.0) @ Lee

Chantilly @ Robinson (-14.0)
*Big spread for this one, but feel it might happen.

Hayfield (-34.0) @ McLean

Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Centreville
*A little torn, I think Centreville will play well at home and Lake Braddock is overrated. That being said, I'll take the Bruins.

Langley (-10.0) @ Fairfax

Marshall @ Falls Church (-7.0)
*This is the conference championship game right here.

Oakton @ Westfield (-14.0)
*Two teams going in opposite directions the last couple of weeks, but that being said I look for a bounce back for the Bulldogs.

Stuart (-7.0) @ Edison

Woodson @ West Potomac (-10.0)

Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-20.0)

Washington-Lee @ South Lakes (-17.0)

West Springfield @ Stone Bridge (-16.0)

Yorktown @ Madison (-14.5)

South County (-14.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Stranger ()
Date: September 29, 2016 08:52PM

Okay let's assume that Patriot, Concorde, and Liberty all had their counter parts per conference. Who would you compare in that form? LB-Wfield-Mad, SOCO-Oak-SL, WestPo-Rob-Hay, Woodson-CVille-York, TC-Tilly-WL, MtV-Herndon-Langley, WSfield-(--)-Fairfax, AnnaD-(--)-McLean.

And, I might want to increase the spread for Hayfield. Madison scored 42, and I'm inclined to believe that Mad's defense is superior, but Mr. "Keeney-Star" and Cobbs combination with about 4 RB's that provide with all different play styles seems like a nice mix.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 30, 2016 12:14AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Briar Woods (-28.0) @ Lee

Briar Woods wins and covers
>
> Chantilly @ Robinson (-14.0)
> *Big spread for this one, but feel it might
> happen.

Robo wins. Not sure if they will cover.
>
> Hayfield (-34.0) @ McLean

Hayfield wins and covers.
>
> Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)

Tusky wins and covers.
>
> Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Centreville
> *A little torn, I think Centreville will play well
> at home and Lake Braddock is overrated. That
> being said, I'll take the Bruins.

I'll take Centreville and the points.
>
> Langley (-10.0) @ Fairfax

This one is hard. Fairfax hasn't looked good at all this year. Langley also hasn't won a game, but I'm not sure why they haven't. I think Langley wins, and they'll probably cover.
>
> Marshall @ Falls Church (-7.0)
> *This is the conference championship game right
> here.

I'll take Marshall and the points.
>
> Oakton @ Westfield (-14.0)
> *Two teams going in opposite directions the last
> couple of weeks, but that being said I look for a
> bounce back for the Bulldogs.

Westfield wins and covers.
>
> Stuart (-7.0) @ Edison

Stuart wins and covers.
>
> Woodson @ West Potomac (-10.0)

West Potomac wins and covers.
>
> Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-20.0)

Mt. Vernon wins and covers.
>
> Washington-Lee @ South Lakes (-17.0)

South Lakes wins and covers. This spread is too low.
>
> West Springfield @ Stone Bridge (-16.0)

Stone Bridge wins and covers
>
> Yorktown @ Madison (-14.5)

Madison wins and covers.
>
> South County (-14.0) @ TC Williams

South County wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: September 30, 2016 12:54AM

If Madison stays healthy they may very well run away with the NR. I'm very serious about this too, I saw what they did to Oakton and they then proceeded to beat Stone Bridge the next week. Their defense is legitimately one of the best D's I've ever seen in this area.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty dude ()
Date: September 30, 2016 05:55AM

Liberty really should be getting more love. Maybe not wholisticaly, but remember a few years back when people thought Liberty was nothing but the runt of the 6A NR. A year before they had major improvements, and I guarantee you two of the top 3 Liberty teams will be in the top 4. Who are the 2/3? I have no idea, but like the guy above said, Madison has a great defense, SL and Hay both have a high powered offense, but SL's defense seems to be more consistent than Hay. Though it's farfetched, but if the last few games play out in a such a way that Hay and Mad are fighting for the title, definitely game of the week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Madison is best of all time ()
Date: September 30, 2016 06:04AM

I think Madison and South Lakes might be the best of all time around here even better than Westfield 2003 and 2007 and Centreville 2013, who most people have considered to be the best NR teams of the last twenty years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: really? ()
Date: September 30, 2016 06:29AM

Whatchoo talking bout Willis?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Slow down there cowboy ()
Date: September 30, 2016 07:39AM

Mad and SL are indeed better than they have probably ever been, but please, don't forget that teams like westfield, centreville, and maybe even LB are down quite the bit this year as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 30, 2016 08:09AM

Centreville is a weak team..please stop trying to hype this sorry azz team...they are bottom feeders..decent coaching staff but disrespectful whining players

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: September 30, 2016 08:21AM

I must say to be honest to everyone that I tried out for Centerville's team but was cut my freshman year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pontiac4life ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:14AM

Centreville is a bottom feeder I agrree,bunch of illiterate wanna be superstars .My youngest son plays on the team and complain s everyday about all the cry babies on the team

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:22AM

Yep agree, what I have been saying about Centreville for years. Bunch of bums.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:23AM

and by the way Haddock is out of his element since the stars of the 2013 and 2014 teams graduated - go Westfield!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfield blows ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:05AM

Westfield blows me

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A football ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:05AM

This is where the Patriot looks really strong. They would have a good chance to win every match-up.

The bottom has grown tremendously in that district.

TC - physical and much more disciplined than years past

Mt. Vernon - Very dangerous on offense, already destroyed W-L(which is a realistic counter team in another district), also very young - just heard that almost everyone comes back next year - could be really changing the culture - who is the new coach? - how did he get them competitive so quick

West Springfield - such a disappointment - really thought they would compete - but as the lowest rated team in the patriot, they would destroy the worst teams in the other districts

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NOVA HS FB ALEX ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:06AM

This is where the Patriot looks really strong. They would have a good chance to win every match-up.

The bottom has grown tremendously in that district.

TC - physical and much more disciplined than years past

Mt. Vernon - Very dangerous on offense, already destroyed W-L(which is a realistic counter team in another district), also very young - just heard that almost everyone comes back next year - could be really changing the culture - who is the new coach? - how did he get them competitive so quick

West Springfield - such a disappointment - really thought they would compete - but as the lowest rated team in the patriot, they would destroy the worst teams in the other districts

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jeekler ()
Date: September 30, 2016 01:18PM

NOVA HS FB ALEX Wrote:
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> This is where the Patriot looks really strong.
> They would have a good chance to win every
> match-up.
>
> The bottom has grown tremendously in that
> district.
>
> TC - physical and much more disciplined than years
> past
>
> Mt. Vernon - Very dangerous on offense, already
> destroyed W-L(which is a realistic counter team in
> another district), also very young - just heard
> that almost everyone comes back next year - could
> be really changing the culture - who is the new
> coach? - how did he get them competitive so quick
>
> West Springfield - such a disappointment - really
> thought they would compete - but as the lowest
> rated team in the patriot, they would destroy the
> worst teams in the other districts

TC does look nice they almost beat Westfield which is incredible considering they were 2-8 last year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HPE10 ()
Date: September 30, 2016 01:20PM

NR fan Wrote:
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> Steve K Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Briar Woods (-28.0) @ Lee
>
> Briar Woods wins and covers
> >
> > Chantilly @ Robinson (-14.0)
> > *Big spread for this one, but feel it might
> > happen.
>
> Robo wins. Not sure if they will cover.
> >
> > Hayfield (-34.0) @ McLean
>
> Hayfield wins and covers.
> >
> > Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
>
> Tusky wins and covers.
> >
> > Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Centreville
> > *A little torn, I think Centreville will play
> well
> > at home and Lake Braddock is overrated. That
> > being said, I'll take the Bruins.
>
> I'll take Centreville and the points.
> >
> > Langley (-10.0) @ Fairfax
>
> This one is hard. Fairfax hasn't looked good at
> all this year. Langley also hasn't won a game,
> but I'm not sure why they haven't. I think
> Langley wins, and they'll probably cover.
> >
> > Marshall @ Falls Church (-7.0)
> > *This is the conference championship game right
> > here.
>
> I'll take Marshall and the points.
> >
> > Oakton @ Westfield (-14.0)
> > *Two teams going in opposite directions the
> last
> > couple of weeks, but that being said I look for
> a
> > bounce back for the Bulldogs.
>
> Westfield wins and covers.
> >
> > Stuart (-7.0) @ Edison
>
> Stuart wins and covers.
> >
> > Woodson @ West Potomac (-10.0)
>
> West Potomac wins and covers.
> >
> > Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-20.0)
>
> Mt. Vernon wins and covers.
> >
> > Washington-Lee @ South Lakes (-17.0)
>
> South Lakes wins and covers. This spread is too
> low.
> >
> > West Springfield @ Stone Bridge (-16.0)
>
> Stone Bridge wins and covers
> >
> > Yorktown @ Madison (-14.5)
>
> Madison wins and covers.
> >
> > South County (-14.0) @ TC Williams
>
> South County wins and covers.


I honestly feel like Oakton can pull the upset the way they held back Robinson's Offense was pretty amazing, Westfield is also down this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HPE11 ()
Date: September 30, 2016 01:37PM

any one who puts 8-9 in the box against Westfield will have a chance to beat them, TC was fast and Tough, they gave Westfield's offense fits all night, Johnson missed on a few deep balls against Stone Bridge and his receiver's returned the favor on a few as well. When the running game is non existent and you are 2-6 on the deep ball and your defense gets run over, your going to lose!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: September 30, 2016 01:57PM

any one who puts 8-9 in the box against Westfield will have a chance to beat them, TC was fast and Tough, they gave Westfield's offense fits all night, Johnson missed on a few deep balls against Stone Bridge and his receiver's returned the favor on a few as well. When the running game is non existent and you are 2-6 on the deep ball and your defense gets run over, your going to lose!

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Oakton's offense does not compare to Stone Bridge, they will put up a fight but there won't be an upset. Look back over the last few years, WF loses at least one game in the regular season. When that happens everyone else except them pushes the panic button. They will get better, figure it out, and stop chucking the ball deep and start using the short passing game to set up the run. Remember last season, it was no different, except WF's defense last year was much tougher. I'm sure the coaches will figure that out too. But I do agree with many of these comments on here 6A North is up for grabs more so than anytime in the past 4-5 years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: September 30, 2016 02:10PM

Briar Woods (-28.0) @ Lee
Probably not enough. BW has weeks of frustration to take out on Lee

Chantilly @ Robinson (-14.0)
*Big spread for this one, but feel it might happen.

Robinson wins but doesn't cover

Hayfield (-34.0) @ McLean
Hayfield covers

Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
Tusky covers

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Centreville
*A little torn, I think Centreville will play well at home and Lake Braddock is overrated. That being said, I'll take the Bruins.

LB covers

Langley (-10.0) @ Fairfax
Langley covers

Marshall @ Falls Church (-7.0)
*This is the conference championship game right here.

Such that it is. Marshall in the upset

Oakton @ Westfield (-14.0)
*Two teams going in opposite directions the last couple of weeks, but that being said I look for a bounce back for the Bulldogs.

Westfield covers.

Stuart (-7.0) @ Edison
I'll take Edison. I don't know why

Woodson @ West Potomac (-10.0)
West Po covers.


Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-20.0)
MV wins but doesn't cover.

Washington-Lee @ South Lakes (-17.0)
SL covers

West Springfield @ Stone Bridge (-16.0)
Stone Bridge covers

Yorktown @ Madison (-14.5)
Madison covers

South County (-14.0) @ TC Williams
TC over SC in the upset.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yawn ()
Date: September 30, 2016 03:16PM

Nobody cares about y'all's "spreads"....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: September 30, 2016 04:40PM

6A football Wrote:
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>
> Mt. Vernon - Very dangerous on offense, already
> destroyed W-L(which is a realistic counter team in
> another district), also very young - just heard
> that almost everyone comes back next year - could
> be really changing the culture - who is the new
> coach? - how did he get them competitive so quick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksw1LNfZ-PQ

Answers begin at 14:33

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: True Judge ()
Date: September 30, 2016 06:16PM

Mt Vernon sucks... and always will suck.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 722 ()
Date: September 30, 2016 07:22PM

hayfield 7 mclean 0... 622 1st
briar woods 14 lee 0... 810 1st

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cville wins again ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:31PM

Centreville 8 Lake Braddock 7 Final Score

Take that bitchaz

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yep Cville ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:39PM

Of course Cville not the same as 2013/2014 but fuck all of you who say they are not relevant. They shut down the big bad Braddock offense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Nation ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:40PM

Wait until they meet up with the DAWGS

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yep Cville ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:41PM

yep we are ready

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nkgga what? ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:43PM

WL a counnter team? In Liberty? Bullshit. Them and Yorktown are the king of the librrty scrubs. They have nothing on South Lakes, Madison, or Hayfield. It's a great win, FOR THEM. But it has no meaning on differentiating the district's overall skill. Especially now that CVille just beat LB... There is no more "top district" IMO. Hell, the only two remaining undefeated teams are in Liberty.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wide open vagaygay ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:47PM

Lake Braddock, Centreville, Westfield, SOCO, Madison, SLakes, West Potomac, Hayfield, Robinson, Mt Vernon....not saying any of these teams will win but any of these teams could win the NR.

WIDE OPEN THIS YEAR

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hello fans ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:51PM

Agree wide open

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Why LB will never win states ()
Date: September 30, 2016 09:54PM

State champions execute a confident play in that situation, LBraddock tried a go for it, no we are faking, no we are really going for it, no we are punting, oh shit we got it blocked now we lose because we are pansy minded dumbshits. Grow some nut sacks coaching staff.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Have to agree ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:00PM

Dyed in the wool Bruin fan - I have to agree, just punt the ball instead of getting all cute. What a waste.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: give credit where tis due ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:06PM

I do not always love everything Haddock does as a coach at CVILLE (Dude please figure out a way NOT to have your QB run over to you for every play) but must give him props for having the nut sax to go for two and the win after they got the touchdown to get within 7-6. Gutsy move that played off brilliantly.

GO WILDCATS!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:12PM

Westfield got absolutely dominated in the 1st Quarter. The score won't reflect it but Q1 was a beat down. But the team that we saw the next 3 quarters look like the team that we thought we'd see coming into the year. The Bulldogs went on a 41-0 run despite not having stud defenders like Petrillo, Free, and Rivers, and while missing O-Linemen. NoVa is wide open this year and don't be surprised to see Westfield represent it again this year. I am very impressed with South Lakes, think they will be a big threat to anyone. That's my NR Finals prediction, South Lakes vs Westfield. Book It!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait, what? ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:26PM

Re: High School Football 2016

Posted by: WF Fan ()

Date: September 30, 2016 10:12PM


Westfield got absolutely dominated in the 1st Quarter. The score won't reflect it but Q1 was a beat down. But the team that we saw the next 3 quarters look like the team that we thought we'd see coming into the year. The Bulldogs went on a 41-0 run despite not having stud defenders like Petrillo, Free, and Rivers, and while missing O-Linemen. NoVa is wide open this year and don't be surprised to see Westfield represent it again this year. I am very impressed with South Lakes, think they will be a big threat to anyone. That's my NR Finals prediction, South Lakes vs Westfield. Book It!

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Dominated? Oakton had an initial drive then that was it. Hell, if #4 for WF could actually catch the ball WF would've scored on one of their early possessions. As a matter of fact, both #4 & #2 for WF had issues hanging onto well perfectly placed passes as they were in full stride deep down the field behind the secondary. But you said it, missing a few starters and the team played well, but let's be realistic, Oakton stinks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait, what? ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:32PM

Oh, and great job on the big win Cville, I may be a WF fan but anytime a fellow conference member notches a big victory it's sweet. In this case it's extra sweet since it was against Lake Braddock. I think everyone but the Wildcats thought LB was going to run the ball down your throats. Nice job in handing out a big dish of reality!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:33PM

No real surprises tonight. Picks were great, margins a little low. The region is pretty down this year, but wide open which makes for an exciting fall. I am also ready to announce my first area top 10.


Briar Woods (-28.0) @ Lee
-Briar Woods won 49-20, great start.

Chantilly @ Robinson (-14.0)
*Big spread for this one, but feel it might happen.
-Robinson won 41-17, disappointing night for the Chargers.

Hayfield (-34.0) @ McLean
*Hayfield won 48-0.

Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
*Tuscarora won 26-23, how the hell were they closer than Centreville? A tough game to explain.

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ Centreville
*A little torn, I think Centreville will play well at home and Lake Braddock is overrated. That being said, I'll take the Bruins.
-Picked wrong, but not surprised at all. Lake Braddock was not that good after seeing them in person at the Robinson game which they dominated. I think this is the weakest I've seen the region in my 15 years following it. That being said, a region title makes for a great year and an entertaining playoff, I just don't expect anything at the state level. Centreville won 8-7.

Langley (-10.0) @ Fairfax
-Langley won 41-13.

Marshall @ Falls Church (-7.0)
*This is the conference championship game right here.
-Falls Church won 33-6, Jaguars will dominate the rest of the way in weak conference. Disappointing showing for Marshall who draws Madison next week.

Oakton @ Westfield (-14.0)
*Two teams going in opposite directions the last couple of weeks, but that being said I look for a bounce back for the Bulldogs.
-Westfield won 41-3, bounce back indeed!

Stuart (-7.0) @ Edison
*Stuart won 23-7.

Woodson @ West Potomac (-10.0)
West Potomac won 32-10.

Wakefield @ Mount Vernon (-20.0)
*Mount Vernon won 49-13.

Washington-Lee @ South Lakes (-17.0)
*South Lakes won 56-18.

West Springfield @ Stone Bridge (-16.0)
*Stone Bridge won 48-12.

Yorktown @ Madison (-14.5)
*Madison won 41-20.

South County (-14.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:50PM

Wait, what? Wrote:
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> Re: High School Football 2016
>
> Posted by: WF Fan ()
>
> Date: September 30, 2016 10:12PM
>
>
> Westfield got absolutely dominated in the 1st
> Quarter. The score won't reflect it but Q1 was a
> beat down. But the team that we saw the next 3
> quarters look like the team that we thought we'd
> see coming into the year. The Bulldogs went on a
> 41-0 run despite not having stud defenders like
> Petrillo, Free, and Rivers, and while missing
> O-Linemen. NoVa is wide open this year and don't
> be surprised to see Westfield represent it again
> this year. I am very impressed with South Lakes,
> think they will be a big threat to anyone. That's
> my NR Finals prediction, South Lakes vs Westfield.
> Book It!
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
>
> Dominated? Oakton had an initial drive then that
> was it. Hell, if #4 for WF could actually catch
> the ball WF would've scored on one of their early
> possessions. As a matter of fact, both #4 & #2 for
> WF had issues hanging onto well perfectly placed
> passes as they were in full stride deep down the
> field behind the secondary. But you said it,
> missing a few starters and the team played well,
> but let's be realistic, Oakton stinks.

Actually, Oakton did own the first quarter. Oakton drove the field on their first possession before fumbling the ball over to Westfield. Westfield 3 and out. Oakton then drove the field again before kicking a field goal after failing to punch it in from 1st and goal. I think they had possession about 10 minutes of the first 12.

After that Westfield found their running game and Oakton just very quickly faded away not to be heard from again.

Agree also - a very nice win by Centreville. Love it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL cheaters ()
Date: September 30, 2016 10:51PM

Of course VHSL in cahoots like usual with the cheaters from the Beach/757 area came up with great idea to hold 6a championship in Hampton area so home field advantage for Oscar Smith or whomever. Instead of one of our NR team fans traveling 90-120 min to Charlottesville will be almost 4 hours down there.

VHSL SUCKS MY DONKEY DICK

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:33PM

So it was OK for 757 teams to travel 3 or 3 1/2 hr's to Charlottesville vs HALF that time for Centreville or Westfield? Whiney, entitled NOVA kids already claiming 757 cheats. Put on your Big Boy Pants & Come Get Some!

FYI.... After the terrible DeMatha game, only 1 team has scored against SMITH. That's 3 out of 4 shut out games! AND Shawn Mitchell hasn't gotten in sync with their passing game yet!!!! SMITH is bigger in the trenches & has a better defense than last year! No one is running against them.

We'll be waiting for y'all in Hampton cause like you said, it'll be a home game!!

Excuses are for losers... So,let's hear'm.......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: At the end of the day... ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:38PM

Who, on this forum actually cares about state? We just care about the contender rather than the contending.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:50PM

Yeah I admit 757 cannot win without rigging like Ocean Lakes a few years ago with all the fake transfers that got the coach ran out of the public school system or now with home game state championship games. Talking about pulling on the big boy pants, last two times Oscar Smith had to play Westfield or Centreville straight up they got their asses handed to them.

And by the way I remember I do have a small penis

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LB Bruin ()
Date: September 30, 2016 11:52PM

Lb long snapper broke his finger play before they got it blocked. Nobody was trying to be cute. LB dominated both sides most of night. LB penalized over and over. why?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: October 01, 2016 06:09AM

Excuses and living in the past. But if you think that going to 3 overtimes to beat a much smaller & much younger SMITH team is an ass whooping, then I'm OK if you wanna live in that! Settling in for ass whooping with pre-emptive excuses is alright too.

Yes Ocean Lakes under Chris Scott was caught cheating but SMITH just laid wood on them last year instead of rolling over & then complaining about it later. I think Chris Scott went over to private, Catholic school system because he really wasn't successful winning under VHSL rules. OL should have had several State Titles with all of their recruited talent. But their players were taught to be selfish & the better TEAMS beat them nearly every year!

SMITH is starting to play football the Bill Dee way. So, to get ready, just remember those 4 consecutive Pheobus State Titles & prepare your puckered sphincter for what's coming! BIG WOOD!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VKXnm ()
Date: October 01, 2016 07:53AM

(757) Wrote:
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> a much smaller & > much younger SMITH team

^^
Excuses

> just remember those 4 consecutive Pheobus State Titles

^^
Living in the past

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Never win ()
Date: October 01, 2016 09:02AM

What kind of Idiot puts their long snapper on the Field 1 play after breaking his finger.....a Loser...and if that Loser truly did that he owes each and every kid on that Team an apology....or we could just be making excuses since we proclaimed LB state Champs a few weeks back.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CUmvT ()
Date: October 01, 2016 09:37AM

(757) Wrote:
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> So it was OK for 757 teams to travel 3 or 3 1/2
> hr's to Charlottesville vs HALF that time for
> Centreville or Westfield? Whiney, entitled NOVA
> kids already claiming 757 cheats. Put on your Big
> Boy Pants & Come Get Some!


Don't pretend it's not an advantage (Google Mapped it):

Oscar Smith – Scott Stadium (178 miles):2 hours 50 minutes
Westfield – Scott Stadium (96 miles): 2 hours 1 minute

Oscar Smith – Armstrong Stadium (26 miles): 34 minutes
Westfield – Armstrong Stadium (180 miles): 3 hours 7 minutes

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region fan ()
Date: October 01, 2016 10:48AM

> Herndon @ Tuscarora (-21.0)
> *Tuscarora won 26-23, how the hell were they
> closer than Centreville? A tough game to
> explain.
>

The Post is reporting the final score of this game as Tusky 31, Herdon 21.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve k2* ()
Date: October 01, 2016 11:26AM

Yeah read an erroneous tweet last night. Still surprised how close though.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 01, 2016 02:25PM

Westfield vs South Lakes NR Final. Book it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 01, 2016 03:34PM

I agree because Westfield is the best, always was the best, and will always be the best!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mickey ()
Date: October 01, 2016 04:07PM

Doesn't matter - best team in Nothern Region is the Bulldogs...

of Stone Bridge!

Let's see if Westfields can even beat 2-4 Briar Woods next week!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football 7 conf ()
Date: October 01, 2016 09:15PM

SoCo 56 TC Williams 19.SoCo fast paced balanced offense and improving defense dominated TC

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Your point ()
Date: October 01, 2016 09:41PM

Westfield might not beat Briar Woods or Centreville or Robinson....Who cares...all that matters is if they see LB in the Post Season..They Will Definitely Win!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: October 02, 2016 01:06AM

Coming from a neutral standpoint, why is Chantilly's Corey Thomas not getting them all 10x a game? He is their only consistent yardage and gets the ball 4-5 times a game. I could see him and Andrew park coming close in the all region/ all state ballot. Kids damn impressive considering chantilly down at the QB spot.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: October 02, 2016 01:07AM

And holy crap is Atkins legit. LB fluke of a loss.. will see them in november

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: backingtrax ()
Date: October 02, 2016 08:30AM

Atkins overrated. Centreville easily shut him down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Schedule ()
Date: October 02, 2016 09:12AM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Westfield vs South Lakes NR Final. Book it.


South Lakes hasn't played anyone with a winning record.

Marshall (2-3) (Marshall beat Edison and McLean)
Briar Woods (2-4) (BW beat Lee and Tuscarora)
Yorktown (2-3) (YT beat Wakefield and Fairfax)
McLean (0-5)
Washington-Lee (1-4) (WL beat Wakefield)

The only quality win one of their opponents have had is Tuscarora, and even they are 3-3. SL only beat Briar Woods by 7.

We'll find out who's legit when they play Madison in two weeks. Madison smoked them 38-6 last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 02, 2016 10:59AM

Guaranteed Soco or LB will enter play-offs with 2 minimum losses....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Neutral ()
Date: October 02, 2016 11:03AM

you Really Think Thomas's wo's are the result of Chantilly only being Down at the QB spot....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Lalli ()
Date: October 02, 2016 08:03PM

NR Fan Wrote:
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> Coming from a neutral standpoint, why is
> Chantilly's Corey Thomas not getting them all 10x
> a game? He is their only consistent yardage and
> gets the ball 4-5 times a game. I could see him
> and Andrew park coming close in the all region/
> all state ballot. Kids damn impressive considering
> chantilly down at the QB spot.

I bet that kid wrote that
Tilly sucks because they've had the same coach there for way too long. Just like Bendorf...
Good luck this week kid

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Visionary ()
Date: October 02, 2016 10:11PM

God bless America.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hurry up lazies ()
Date: October 04, 2016 07:43AM

Where's the damn spreads? We got a lot of Thur. games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: October 04, 2016 09:20AM

Hurry up lazies Wrote:
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> Where's the damn spreads? We got a lot of Thur.
> games.


The only two in Northern VA that I see on All Met Sports are Fairfax @ Hayfield and TJ @ Stuart. Are there others?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Duk-es ()
Date: October 04, 2016 09:47AM

I think Lee at Falls Church and Marshall vs Madison?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 04, 2016 11:31AM

A lot on Thursday. No school for FCPS on Friday, teacher work day.

Yes, Madison at Marshall is Thursday

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Long Time, First Time ()
Date: October 04, 2016 07:33PM

Been watching Northern Virginia football for more than 20 years. I think this is the most balanced, but also weakest group I have seen. Seriously, four and five different teams can win the region. As weak as this year is, publics are still better in Virginia than Maryland and DC, no matter what the Washington Post says.

Damascus would go 5-5 in 5A or 6A distraction VA. They go undefeated every damn year in their shit conference.

Gap between private schools and publics is growing wider.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: come on dude ()
Date: October 04, 2016 08:08PM

Come on, Westfield is its typical strong, best in NR self. Westfield rules!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ()
Date: October 04, 2016 08:25PM

Stone Bridge would say otherwise.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Did you forget... ()
Date: October 05, 2016 06:17AM

Westfield just lost two weeks ago to SB.... 34-16. That's a win more than a flip of a coin like IMO Hayf and SOCO (50-46). SB won by scheme, and especially physicality.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cuC3b ()
Date: October 05, 2016 06:59AM

It's troll. Just ignore.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: reality cheque ()
Date: October 05, 2016 12:45PM

Westfield fans on here need to tone it down a bit....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 05, 2016 01:17PM

Screw you, we are winners so we will say and do what we want!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 05, 2016 01:47PM

...and the undefeated team are?

Not Westfield for one.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 05, 2016 01:58PM

We are still the bestest in the world, we will succeed because we are winners.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 05, 2016 03:37PM

Sounds like prosperity gospel to me...founded on sand, not solid rock

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 05, 2016 03:45PM

Gospel is right, God favors everyone from Westfield. He told me....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville City ()
Date: October 05, 2016 04:16PM

Centreville Nation cannot wait to see you pompous Westfield fans in a few weeks. What is this bullshit Westfield fans put on this site, just catching up to the rubbish and had to speak up once.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GOFALCONS ()
Date: October 05, 2016 04:38PM

Here is a fact you can count on. Briar Woods has seen the tape. They know what Block did to that Westfield defense. Maffe is 10X the back that Block is. Maffe will own – literally own the Bulldogs. Count on it. And Briar Woods is coming for the other Bulldogs from Stone Bridge! Maffe > Block. You read it here first.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 05, 2016 05:28PM

VHSL Week 5 playoff ranking up today on the Washington Post website:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-insider/wp/2016/10/05/the-virginia-high-school-football-playoff-outlook-through-week-5/

Although the spread between #1 and #6 is within ranking two points, the top 2 are from Liberty C6, the next 2 Patriot C7, then we get to the Concorde C5 schools like the lowly Westfield and Centerville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Your wish is my command ()
Date: October 05, 2016 08:17PM

As requested, here are the predictions and spreads for this week (first time doing this, wish me luck). Btw, I’m NOT Steve K.

Chantilly (-21) at McLean – Chantilly has been unacceptable this season but so has McLean. However, Chantilly is still the better team. I’ll take them.

Fairfax at Hayfield (-48) – Hawks offense keeps on rolling. South Lakes and Madison are the last two quality opponents left on their schedule.

James Madison (-42) at George Marshall – Game will be over before the 2nd quarter. Madison won’t have another tough opponent until they meet South Lakes and Hayfield at the end of the regular season.

Langley (-7) at Washington-Lee. Battle for the mid-tier spot in the Liberty District. I’ll take Langley.

Mount Vernon (-12) at Annandale. Very proud of Mount Vernon’s success this season. They’ll win this one.

Oakton at Centreville (-14) - Hard game to predict because Oakton’s been inconsistent. I’ll pick Cville to be on the safe side especially after beating Braddock last week.

South Lakes (-45) at Herndon – Rivalry game. Feel very sorry for Herndon fans.

Stone Bridge (-18) at Robinson – Robinson started off strong but are starting to fizzle out. Stone Bridge has a lot of momentum; they’ll win this one in an impressive fashion.

T.C. Williams at Lake Braddock (-21) - LB bounces back after a tough loss against Cville.

West Potomac (-25) at West Springfield – West Po rolls. WS was supposed to be one of the top teams in 6A North (looking at the preseason rankings and expectations), but have not lived up to any of those preseason expectations.

Westfield (-17) at Briar Woods – Could be a great game but after that dominating performance over their rival Oakton, I like Westfield in this one.

South County (-27) at W.T. Woodson – Woodson’s having a really good season but SoCo wins this one.

Yorktown at Broad Run (-17) – If this game happened a few years back, it would’ve been a very competitive game but Broad Run wins this game with relative ease.

Wakefield (-3) at Edison – Battle of disappointing teams. Wakefield had a really good season last year (and the year before last) and Edison used to be a football powerhouse in D5 years ago. My gut tells me Wakefield will win this game.

Lee at Falls Church (-21) – Might as well go ahead give FC the district title already.

Jefferson at Stuart (-42) – Even though Stuart is one of the worst teams in the region, they’ll crush TJ very easily.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 05, 2016 09:07PM

Your wish is my command Wrote:
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> As requested, here are the predictions and spreads
> for this week (first time doing this, wish me
> luck). Btw, I’m NOT Steve K.

You are giving LOTS of points in lots of games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Spreadem ()
Date: October 05, 2016 09:21PM

It's not as if he has to cover them....WFK...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 05, 2016 10:04PM

Fairfax @ Hayfield (-35.0)

Jefferson @ Stuart (-35.0)

Chantilly (-17.0) @ McLean

Langley (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee

Lee @ Falls Church (-10.0)
*I know I said this last week, but this could potentially be the conference championship game now.

Madison (-37.0) @ Marshall

Mount Vernon (-21.0) @ Annandale

Oakton @ Centreville (-14.0)

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Herndon

Stone Bridge (-8.0) @ Robinson
*These teams are both a little hit or miss.

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)

Woodson @ South County (-21.0)

Wakefield (-1.0) @ Edison

West Potomac (-17.0) @ West Springfield

Westfield (-14.0) @ Briar Woods

Yorktown @ Broad Run (-21.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: October 05, 2016 11:48PM

Thank you Steve. Now I'll take my own shot

Steve K Wrote:
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> Fairfax @ Hayfield (-35.0)

I don't like big spreads. Hayfield wins, but doesn't cover

>
> Jefferson @ Stuart (-35.0)

But in this case, I do. Stuart wins and covers.
>
> Chantilly (-17.0) @ McLean

Chantilly wins and covers. I think this spread is low.
>
> Langley (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee

Langley wins and covers.
>
> Lee @ Falls Church (-10.0)
> *I know I said this last week, but this could
> potentially be the conference championship game
> now.

Falls Church wins and covers.
>
> Madison (-37.0) @ Marshall

This spread is a bit high, IMO. I'll take Madison to win, but not cover.
>
> Mount Vernon (-21.0) @ Annandale

Mr. Vernon wins and covers
>
> Oakton @ Centreville (-14.0)

Centreville wins and covers.
>
> South Lakes (-28.0) @ Herndon

South Lakes like to run up the score, Despite Herndon keeping it close last week, I think South Lakes is by far the better team. I'll take them to win and cover.
>
> Stone Bridge (-8.0) @ Robinson
> *These teams are both a little hit or miss.

I'll take Stone Bridge here.
>
> TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)

I'll take Lake Braddock to win, but not cover.
>
> Woodson @ South County (-21.0)

South County wins and covers
>
> Wakefield (-1.0) @ Edison

Wakefield wins
>
> West Potomac (-17.0) @ West Springfield

West Potomac wins and covers.
>
> Westfield (-14.0) @ Briar Woods

If I am getting points, I'll take Briar Woods
>
> Yorktown @ Broad Run (-21.0)

Broad Run wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 06, 2016 02:52PM

Fairfax @ Hayfield (-35.0)
Might not be enough on this one. Hayfield covers that.

Jefferson @ Stuart (-35.0)
Seems about right. Stuart covers.

Chantilly (-17.0) @ McLean
Chantilly does not cover.

Langley (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee
Langley covers.

Lee @ Falls Church (-10.0)
*I know I said this last week, but this could potentially be the conference championship game now.
Falls Church wins but does not cover.

Madison (-37.0) @ Marshall
Madison covers


Mount Vernon (-21.0) @ Annandale
Mt. vernon Covers

Oakton @ Centreville (-14.0)
Centreville wins but does not cover.

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Herndon
Not enough. Herndon is a bad, bad football team.

Stone Bridge (-8.0) @ Robinson
*These teams are both a little hit or miss.
Stone Bridge wins and covers.

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
That's about right. Braddock wins easily.

Woodson @ South County (-21.0)
Not enough on this one. SoCo wins by 30

Wakefield (-1.0) @ Edison
Wakefield. I guess.

West Potomac (-17.0) @ West Springfield
Springfield is banged up and these teams "Plain don't like each other" WestPo covers that spread easily.

Westfield (-14.0) @ Briar Woods
Westfield covers.

Yorktown @ Broad Run (-21.0)
Broad Run wins but does not cover.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 06, 2016 08:17PM

Half time Madison 34 Marshall 0. 2nd string in the game in 2nd quarter...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 333 ()
Date: October 06, 2016 08:46PM

hayfield 54 fairfax 9.... fairfax scored with :3 left in the 4th

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football 7 conf ()
Date: October 06, 2016 10:12PM

Like I said earlier South is at Woodson

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ChantillyParent ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:01PM

McLean lost a heartbreaker...
Tied Chantilly 14-14 at halftime, McLean had all the momentum. Game was a dog fight.
Unfortunately in the 3rd quarter the McLean starting QB was badly injured. Seemed to break his leg or something on the play.
After that, McLean lost all of their momentum, and the players lost all their morale.
Final score 49-14 I believe.
I may be a Chantilly fan, but McLean had a lot of heart today. I'd pick them over Yorktown next week based on what I saw.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Up away ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:12PM

Westfield lost in double OT to briar woods.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Faux Co ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:16PM

SC overrated again. Won't win more than one playoff game. Five turnovers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield fan ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:24PM

Repeat after me Westfield faithful we are special people they do love us and we will be OK we are special people do love us and we will be OK

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville looking good ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:28PM

Cville took care of Oakton tonight of course will take care of Herndon next week so they'll be six and one going into Westfield in week 8....not too shabby

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bitch Lover ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:33PM

They had 6 turnovers and 12 penalties and still hung 56 on Woodson. The region blows and so do you. Soco will be there in the end. What do you want them to hang 100 on people? Enjoy bitch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:37PM

Westfield is mediocre... Too bad, I was hoping to see y'all come down to 757 for your your well deserved ass beating. It looks like Westfield is already getting it though! Still have a couple of tough games & y'all could have 3 losses by play-off time. I don't even know what to say about that!

I almost feel bad for Westfield.....NOT!!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:47PM

(757) Wrote:
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> Westfield is mediocre... Too bad, I was hoping to
> see y'all come down to 757 for your your well
> deserved ass beating.

Where did that come from???

Anyway, you are correct. Mediocre is the word. This year's team is not even remotely in the ballpark of last season. Well coached and playing the right way. Just getting mauled by bigger and stronger players.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Gjfd ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:53PM

SOCO only has that one RB. Runs like he just stole something from 7/11. Probably did.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: October 07, 2016 10:57PM

I forgot to remind people though that I know that 757 teams cheat and even so Oscar Smith last two times they have played in the state championship have lost to Westfield and Centreville but I still blow hard up here in NOVA because I have nothing better to do and I do have a very small penis so it is ok if the 757 teams cheat and conspire with VHSL because it in some way makes up for my small willie.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Friday Night Lights ()
Date: October 07, 2016 11:10PM

Washington and Lee beats Langley by 1

Chantilly tied at halftime, rolls over McLean in 2nd Half

Annandale defeats fading Mt. Vernon

Centerville by 9 over Oakton

South Lakes rolls over hapless Herndon

Stone Bridge special teams and passing lead Bulldogs over Robinson by 15

Braddock predictably smacks down TC Williams

SoCo smacks Woodson, gives up a lot of points in doing so.

Wakefield gets 1st win over Edison

Potomac over Springfield in a close Battle of the Wests

Briar Woods shocks scrubs from Westfield in double overtime

Broad Run handles Yorktown, as Arlington schools really struggle.

Tuscarora upends Potomac Falls, knocking off overrated Panthers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: October 07, 2016 11:32PM

Welcome back juvenile troll.... It's too bad about your Westfield team, but SOCO & Centreville are loving it.

BTW you just can't stand it that the poor kids from the South Norfolk region of Chesapeake keeps winning and plays for the South regional championship & the State Game virtually every year. Westfield is good when they win but then they quickly becomes mediocre again. Until y'all can show some consistancy, just shut up...

I think your obsession with my penis is pathological & no body really cares about your trivial comments!

Westfield will be sitting home in December & complaining how teams cheat.. Very predictable & the reason why no one respects Westfield!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: (757) ()
Date: October 07, 2016 11:51PM

SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at least they back up their regular season with deep, deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar success.. But you can hold onto your delusional nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference Zero ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:10AM

Westfield looking for that #13-16 seed come playoffs coming in at 6-4 or 7-3

Zero Depth across the Board

Poor Running Team

Poor passing Team

Horrendous blocking team

Terrible Tackling Team

Undersized Defense

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: McLeanGo ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:14AM

Shoutout to McLean for giving it their all.
I feel like they would have won the game if their QB didn't get injured.
The momentum was all on their side.
But hey, they showed a Concorde team that they were ready to fight.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: gkeeton@verizon.net ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:18AM

(757) Wrote:
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> SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive
> district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of
> course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at
> least they back up their regular season with deep,
> deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the
> feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar
> success.. But you can hold onto your delusional
> nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!


gkeeton@verizon.net



REALLY bad idea to leave ways to find out who you are

hope you have not had that email too long, because you better lose it fast

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WARHAWKS ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:31AM

Tonight only makes it clearer... MADISON is winning this region

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:42AM

Friday, October 14 -- Madison at undefeated South Lakes...2nd test of their defense (since Stone Bridge). Warhawks close the season away at Hayfield (as of right now undefeated too)

Offense is solid. Choutka, Conforti, Finney, Thomas, Kidd all look really good in the scheme, even back up Walker looks good in the backfield.

Proved the could hold the line on defense against Stone Bridge...can they do the same against South Lakes running backs? Will come down to line play.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: A New Era ()
Date: October 08, 2016 06:39AM

Everything changed.... When Westfield started losing *Avatar music plays*. ... Right now it seems like the only CONSISTENTLY district is Liberty, but then again, Madison and SL are graced with an overall easy schedule, if not for themselves, one eh non-conference game and Hayfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Looking at the PP ()
Date: October 08, 2016 06:44AM

Wow.... Only if Hayfield held back SOCO in a game that seemed to go against them in the end (losing 3 year starting Guard slowed down their roll on the run game) Hayfield would be in top 4 easy a long with Mad and SL. Right now the top 5 are literally within 1.3 points of each other.

LB honestly fked up the rankings with their LOSS. Good for Cville, but really LB.... Now Centreville I think is the most undeserving #3 seed so far.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: xpdk7 ()
Date: October 08, 2016 07:51AM

Conference Zero Wrote:
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> Westfield looking for that #13-16 seed come
> playoffs coming in at 6-4 or 7-3
>
> Zero Depth across the Board
>
> Poor Running Team
>
> Poor passing Team
>
> Horrendous blocking team
>
> Terrible Tackling Team
>
> Undersized Defense

QB has not developed at all this season. I think has had 12 passes tipped at the LOS in the last 3 games. No touch. Going into the playoffs at 6-4 is the likely senario.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lmaomg ()
Date: October 08, 2016 09:47AM

HAHAHA the fact that McLean almost beat Chantilly is kinda sad

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: October 08, 2016 10:39AM

In hindsight Madison's win over Stone Brige looks even more impressive now and SL's win over Briar Woods looks like more of a quality win then it did at the time. You'd have to give the edge to Madison over SL but the big question for them is if they have an answer for Alston and the speed in general of SL.

I haven't seen Langley but I'm not too surprised that WL beat them. WL isn't that good a team but I was impressed with a couple of their receivers and they have a good QB who can get them the ball. The QB's toughness was impressive because he didn't have much time to get the ball off and no running game whatsoever.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: atoms ()
Date: October 08, 2016 12:35PM

Annandale fan here. Saw the game last night against Mt. Vernon. It was like two completely different games. First half, Mt. Vernon looked like last year's team, and Annandale was up 28-0. 2nd half, Mt. Vernon looked like this year's team and scored three td's in the 3rd quarter. Fourth qtr., Mount Vernon was inside the 10 yard line at least twice but couldn't score.
Not sure what happened to MV first half, but they looked great in the 2nd half. But Annandale kicked their ass in the 1st half.
Kind of a strange game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 08, 2016 01:18PM

Both South Lakes and Madison will need to respect a Hayfield team that put up 46 points on South County...even if a in a losing effort.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Real Soco ()
Date: October 08, 2016 03:13PM

Soco offense is good. Their defense not so good. Special teams gave up 3 td's vs. Hayfield. And that bum Salisbury fumbled the ball in the endzone, so the score wasn't that close with Hayfield and Soco. If Salisbury left a couple weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: October 08, 2016 04:37PM

Real Soco Wrote:
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> If Salisbury left a couple
> weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region
> and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against
> Westfield.

This is true. McDaniels seems to be the best QB in NOVA.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference 6 fan ()
Date: October 08, 2016 08:59PM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Both South Lakes and Madison will need to respect
> a Hayfield team that put up 46 points on South
> County...even if a in a losing effort.


South Lakes, Madison, and McLean have only one common opponent among the three teams -- McLean. Using McLean as a measuring stick, South Lakes would seem to be the best.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The truth factor ()
Date: October 08, 2016 09:50PM

Soco got beat by a mediocre Westfield Team...they are playing Scrub teams giving up 30-40 pts a game...they will not survey verb the Northern Region much less what comes out of 757....McDaniels however is a player...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Real Hay ()
Date: October 08, 2016 10:24PM

Real Soco Wrote:
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> Soco offense is good. Their defense not so good.
> Special teams gave up 3 td's vs. Hayfield. And
> that bum Salisbury fumbled the ball in the
> endzone, so the score wasn't that close with
> Hayfield and Soco. If Salisbury left a couple
> weeks earlier Soco would be the talk of the region
> and 6-0. Pannoni put McDaniels in too late against
> Westfield.

Hayfield turnovered the ball 4 times in the 2nd quarter. Their 3 year starting guard got hurt (on a firzt glance, probably the best oline they have). We can play excuses and say that "Oh, that wasn't as close as it seems be" because of xyz when Hayfield had xyz against them, if not more mistakes that proved to be more dire. They both had a crap ton of penalties, turnovers, and it was back and forth. As said before, a great game that honestly could've changed with a turf pellet going the other direction.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 08, 2016 10:26PM

McLean lost by so much because Madison softened them up for South Lakes the week before...you can say thank you now ;)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 09, 2016 06:13AM

Fairfax @ Hayfield (-35.0)
*Hayfield won 54-9.

Nailed some, got a few wrong this week. This is the hardest season to pick margins I can ever recall. I love it! The playoffs are going to be awesome in a few weeks.

Jefferson @ Stuart (-35.0)
*Stuart won 42-6.

Chantilly (-17.0) @ McLean
*Chantilly won 49-14, in hindsight this picked margin was low. Chantilly's coaches must have lost it being tied at halftime.

Langley (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Washington Lee won 36-35.

Lee @ Falls Church (-10.0)
*Falls Church won 56-21.

Madison (-37.0) @ Marshall
*Madison won 41-0.

Mount Vernon (-21.0) @ Annandale
*Annandale won 28-21. Annandale is a tough team to figure out. They've put together a couple nice games and then have games where they don't show up ready to play. This loss definitely stings for Mount Vernon.

Oakton @ Centreville (-14.0)
*Centreville won 21-12. Oakton played much better than their 40 point loss to Westfield. This is honestly the hardest year it's ever been making picks, love it!

South Lakes (-28.0) @ Herndon
*South Lakes won 56-23.

Stone Bridge (-8.0) @ Robinson
*Stone Bridge won 36-21.

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-24.0)
*Lake Braddock won 42-7.

Woodson @ South County (-21.0)
*South County won 56-32.

Wakefield (-1.0) @ Edison
*Wakefield won 32-14.

West Potomac (-17.0) @ West Springfield
*West Potomac won 47-40.

Westfield (-14.0) @ Briar Woods
*Briar Woods won 35-34.

Yorktown @ Broad Run (-21.0)
*Broad Run won 29-7.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 09, 2016 06:26AM

Chantilly @ Oakton (-14.0)
*Maybe the Chargers can stay in this one, but Oakton has games where they've played well against good opponents. Chantilly has just beaten Lee, McLean and Herndon... For that, will go with the Cougars here in a kind of big spread for a conference match up.

Edison @ Tuscarora (-45.0)

Falls Church (-49.0) @ Jefferson
*Bigger margin than usual, I just don't see how TJ can keep this one close.

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Langley
*Langley usually keeps game close for a while, I think they'll do the same here.

Lake Braddock (-24.0) @ Woodson

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
*This is the game of the week and a first must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but I'm a big believer in quality competition and Madison has been more tested. That being said the Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule and have absolutely dominated.

Marshall @ Lee (-7.0)

Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
*Westfield doesn't lose 2 in a row often, I suspect they will bounce back with a win but this could be a fun game to watch.

South County (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon

Stuart @ Wakefield (-1.0)
*This is a tough one... Stuart has their winningest season in 5 years and Wakefield has just won 1, I'll take the home team.

Washington-Lee (-17.0) @ Fairfax

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Annandale
*Annandale always gets me, but so I am keeping the pick closer this week.

Yorktown (-15.0) @ McLean

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jeu7m ()
Date: October 09, 2016 08:43AM

(757) Wrote:
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> SMITH has won 87 (EIGHTY-SEVEN) consecutive
> district games. Try THAT for consistency! Of
> course only a couple of schools are Div 6 but at
> least they back up their regular season with deep,
> deep runs into the play-offs! That's because the
> feeding Middle Schools & JV teams enjoy similar
> success.. But you can hold onto your delusional
> nightmare of a cheating world out to get you!

Smith has won 87 district games in a row because their district is weak. Real weak. The district has 3 teams from each of 6A, 5A, and 4A. They only have 1, sometimes two, real games every year. The 6 5A/4A teams are also historically terrible and rarely make the playoffs. Yes, they are a good program. But when you have to only face 1-2 decent teams until at least the 3rd round of the playoffs it is just a bit easier to run up gaudy scores and huge winning streaks. That is not the case on NOVA or RVA. Accept reality.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RydellllRoad ()
Date: October 09, 2016 09:18AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
> *This is the game of the week and a first
> must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as
> these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn
> here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but
> I'm a big believer in quality competition and
> Madison has been more tested. That being said the
> Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule
> and have absolutely dominated.

This is the game I would like to watch. I think Madison takes care of business.


> Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
> *Westfield doesn't lose 2 in a row often, I
> suspect they will bounce back with a win but this
> could be a fun game to watch.

This is the game I will watch. Coach Simmons has not lost 2 in a row since taking over at Westfield. With Centreville following this one it could very easily be 3 in a row.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: October 09, 2016 09:53PM

atoms Wrote:
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> Annandale fan here. Saw the game last night
> against Mt. Vernon. It was like two completely
> different games. First half, Mt. Vernon looked
> like last year's team, and Annandale was up 28-0.
> 2nd half, Mt. Vernon looked like this year's team
> and scored three td's in the 3rd quarter. Fourth
> qtr., Mount Vernon was inside the 10 yard line at
> least twice but couldn't score.
> Not sure what happened to MV first half, but they
> looked great in the 2nd half. But Annandale kicked
> their ass in the 1st half.
> Kind of a strange game.


This result is the most stunning of the week. Not surprised Mount Vernon's defense got exposed a bit, but for their offense to only put up 21 against a meh team is puzzling.

I know folks hate Westfield, but there's no shame in losing to BW. They are a big, tough team and could cause problems in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Lots of shame, shame ()
Date: October 10, 2016 07:07AM

BW lost to basically every other relevant team, West Po, South Lakes, and SoCo. Now to say that Westfield will now lose to thee teams..... Maybe so. But it doesn't look like WF is in there typical trend of improvement.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 10, 2016 01:34PM

What is happening to 6A North football this year?

Westfield losing to a Briar Woods team that did not look any better than the one that lost 36-0 to Westfield last year. Lake Braddock squeaking by West Potomac and losing to Centreville. Centreville losing to a mediocre Tuscarora team (that just knocked off undefeated Potomac Falls). South County scoring as much as ever but lost to a down Westfield squad and barely slipped past an average Briar Woods. Hayfield very impressive but a loss to South County. Oakton has a couple of decent wins - Tuscarora/Robinson) – but some bad losses. Robinson doesn’t have any big wins but probably outperformed Westfield in their loss to Stone Bridge. West Potomac has a win versus Briar Woods and should finish at least 8-2 or maybe 9-1. Battlefield may finish 8-2 but they do not really impress.

Madison and South Lakes appear to be the class of the field as they hold wins against Stone Bridge and Briar Woods respectively. But they were close games and they haven’t really played anyone else of note. Are they really that much better than the 1 or 2 loss teams? I don’t know. SoCo with the new QB is going to be a really tough out but I always go with whoever has the best defense. Right now I am leaning towards Madison. The next few weeks will be most interesting but unless someone makes a move I am thinking for once it may be true that the region is actually “down.”

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: A couple of things... ()
Date: October 10, 2016 02:41PM

It is easy to shout that the whole area is "down" this year, but perhaps it just happens to be that the talent is spread out. Has anyone seen Hembry from Broad Run, Maffe from Briar Woods, or Atkins from Braddock? I get to watch film of any game that I want, and I can tell you that these three, along with Breece and Block from Stone Bridge, are pretty damn good. What you don't have any more is the depth we used to have. Too many soft parents not letting their kids play football will invariably mess with the quality of play, especially after we get to the heart of the season and attrition sets in. What is definitely down in my opinion is quarterback play. Not sure why, but clearly this area has great coaching and has churned out great quarterbacks over the past few years. Calm down, these things are cyclical. I will also add, however, that even top JV teams are weak when compared to the ones from 5-10 years ago. Too many "gamers" that don't get off their couch, too many helicopter parents that went to see Will Smith in "Concussion". Just enjoy the stretch run and the playoffs, as this year it is truly anyone's year to pop up and win their region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 10, 2016 03:41PM

A couple of things... Wrote:
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> It is easy to shout that the whole area is "down"
> this year, but perhaps it just happens to be that
> the talent is spread out. Has anyone seen Hembry
> from Broad Run, Maffe from Briar Woods, or Atkins
> from Braddock? I get to watch film of any game
> that I want, and I can tell you that these three,
> along with Breece and Block from Stone Bridge, are
> pretty damn good. What you don't have any more is
> the depth we used to have. Too many soft parents
> not letting their kids play football will
> invariably mess with the quality of play,
> especially after we get to the heart of the season
> and attrition sets in. What is definitely down in
> my opinion is quarterback play. Not sure why, but
> clearly this area has great coaching and has
> churned out great quarterbacks over the past few
> years. Calm down, these things are cyclical. I
> will also add, however, that even top JV teams are
> weak when compared to the ones from 5-10 years
> ago. Too many "gamers" that don't get off their
> couch, too many helicopter parents that went to
> see Will Smith in "Concussion". Just enjoy the
> stretch run and the playoffs, as this year it is
> truly anyone's year to pop up and win their
> region.

I agree there are still a lot of top athletes in the area. Perhaps just not powerhouse teams. But we'll see.

Some areas are seeing reduced numbers of kids going out for football. My brother in Pittsburgh was just telling me there are a few former top football schools in the area that are not fielding freshman football teams anymore. Not enough kids. Just JV and Varsity. So it's not just here.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/high-school-football/2016/09/23/Endangered-species-Ninth-grade-football-in-Western-Pa/stories/201609230052

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: October 10, 2016 09:01PM

After a decade of barely paying attention to the Northern Region, I've gotten back into it this year. So I can't say if play is up or down compared to recent seasons. However, a few things have jumped out at me after 10 years away:

-- Teams are MUCH bigger physically than a decade ago. I know program weights are exaggerated, but I'm blown away by the size of some teams. Back in the day if you had a 300 pounder, more than likely he was a fatso. Not anymore.

-- Offenses are much more complex. A decade ago hardly anyone ran the spread or its variations. Now just about every team throws it all over the field, and QBs have much more responsibility.

-- There's much more parity, thank god. Back in the early 2000s you could pretty much bank on Oakton, Robinson, Westfield and Centreville. It's great to see programs like Madison, South Lakes and Hayfield breaking into the top tier now.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Low-Down ()
Date: October 11, 2016 01:28PM

C'mon, Steve, we know that you are not all that up on Loudoun County football, but they are pretty damn good and you couldn't even bother to put a line out there on their big match-ups this week?
Stone Bridge (5-1) at Broad Run (4-2)
Briar Woods (3-4) at Potomac Falls (5-1)

And before anyone tries to bash me by telling me this is "Fairfax Underground", these four Loudoun schools play against Fairfax schools all the time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR FAN ()
Date: October 11, 2016 02:51PM

Can someone give me the rundown for the NR playoff picture? The 16 in and the 4 that are bubble?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: thescores ()
Date: October 11, 2016 02:59PM

Stone Bridge 35, Broad Run 28
Briar Woods 14, Potomac Falls 13

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rawnumbers ()
Date: October 11, 2016 03:06PM

Top 8
Madison 30.33333
Lake Braddock 29.50000
South County 29.33333
Centreville 29.33333
South Lakes 29.00000
West Potomac 28.50000
Hayfield 27.16667
Westfield 26.66668

Bottom 8
Battlefield 26.57143
Mount Vernon 24.50000
Annandale 24.50000
Patriot 24.33333
Robinson 24.33333
Woodson 24.16667
Oakton 23.16667
TC Williams 23.16667

Next 4
Chantilly 22.50000
Langley 21.66667
Yorktown 21.16667
West Springfield 20.00000

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Falls Church Alum ()
Date: October 11, 2016 04:06PM

How about 5A playoffs/rankings?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rawnumbers ()
Date: October 11, 2016 04:42PM

Falls Church Alum Wrote:
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> How about 5A playoffs/rankings?


Top 8
Brooke Point 31.66667
Stone Bridge 29.33333
Potomac Falls 28.66667
Massaponax 28.66667
Albemarle 26.83333
Patrick Henry (Roanoke) 26.57143
Patrick Henry (Ashland) 26.16667
North Stafford 26.00000

Bottom 8
Tuscarora 25.14286
Broad Run 25.00000
Briar Woods 23.71429
Falls Church 23.16667
Potomac 22.83333
Stafford 22.66667
Orange 22.16667
Stuart 21.33333

Next 4
Marshall 21.16667
Mountain View 20.83333
Atlee 20.66667
Edison 19.16667

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Fondue ()
Date: October 11, 2016 11:38PM

All region watch list

Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart. Slots were based upon play on film, exposure , statistics, as well as raw potential to continue to play at a high level. I felt these players currently have deserved the spots they are in. I am sure the top teams will sneak some of their guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty of football to still be played.

Offense

*west Potomac is loaded but one guy hasn't quite made an absolute claim for an all region spot

QB Jack McDaniels South County
QB Jacob Keeney Hayfield
QB Timothy Heltzel Mount Vernon

RB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
RB Jalen Jackson Annandale
RB Spencer Alston South Lakes
RB Landon Thomas Madison

TE Andrew Park Lake Braddock
TE Jimmy Murphy Fairfax
TE Corey Thomas Chantilly

WR Dillon Spalding South County
WR Daniel Adu West Springfield
WR Brian Cobbs Hayfield
WR Quinn Parks Washington and Lee
WR Darien Newton Mount Vernon

OL Pierce Banbury Oakton
OL Nick Bernachhi Robinson
OL David Kroll South Lakes
OL Jacob Laub Lake Braddock
OL Marshal McCord McLean
OL Cameron Lucas South County
OL Jack Blevins Hayfield


Bubble

Mikel Gambel Mount Vernon
Zach Monson West Potomac
Adam Kucick Herndon
Jacob Chautka Madison
Ricardo Mestre Washington and Lee
Devin Miles South Lakes
Mark Ellis West Potomac
Jo Jo Heisley Woodson
Ivory Frimpong Westfield
Julian Garret Centreville
Brandon Lisenby West Potomac
Reid Scarborough Robinson
Nolan Cockrill Westfield
Jaden Snead Herndon
Nick Miller Washington and Lee
Daiimon Cleveland West Potomac
Jacquez Stewart Robinson
Ty Crabb Lake Braddock



Defense

This is harder to gage with less statistics available

DL Caleb Brooks Centreville
DL Brailyn Franklin Battlefield
DL Zach Jewell Westfield
DL Brad Porter Madison


LB Joshua King Battlefield
LB Da'jon Bellfield West Potomac
LB Kevin Petrillo Westfield
LB Ryan Wolfe Hayfield
LB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
LB Tyrese Randall T.C. Williams


DB Sam Kidd Madison
DB Shemahr Brown Annandale
DB Cristian Massie South County
DB Asa Ward Lake Braddock
DB Isaiah Culliver Centreville




Bubble

Eric Nabinett South County
Hunter Strebb Chantilly
Nate Avery South County
Ladarion Rivers Westfield
Chris Logan South Lakes
Tyler Iriondo Robinson
Brahim Bangura Annandale
Chris Watson Oakton



K Brian Delaney Westfield
K Matt Prosser Oakton

P Sean Ryan Fairfax


The following players star on both offense, defense and specials teams for their respective teams. I imagine they will make all region in some capacity.


Utility John Finney Madison
Utility Mark Brown Centreville
Utility Ibrahim Marnsary Lake Braddock

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ct3DX ()
Date: October 12, 2016 10:57AM

Mr. Fondue Wrote:
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> All region watch list
>
> Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the
> midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart.
> Slots were based upon play on film, exposure ,
> statistics, as well as raw potential to continue
> to play at a high level. I felt these players
> currently have deserved the spots they are in. I
> am sure the top teams will sneak some of their
> guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty
> of football to still be played.


I am assuming you have not watched any Battlefield games. Rivers and Petrillo for Westfield are out for the season so they won't make it. I know he was hurt early and they are not winning but I still think Muskett from West Springfield will be on your list by the end of the season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Dad ()
Date: October 12, 2016 11:19AM

Petrillo is not out for the year. He will be back this week. Westfield will start their annual march deep into the post-season this week. This is the time of the year when they start to really improve.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Dad ()
Date: October 12, 2016 12:14PM

Because we all know that Westfield is god's favorite and quality always comes out on top

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 guy ()
Date: October 12, 2016 12:50PM

Seth Dunn class of 18 South county --15 receptions 313 yards 20.9 avg per catch and 5 TDs so far. With 2 called back should have 7, all he does is catch long touchdowns. overshadowed by Spalding but he always gets open.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Norther region fan ()
Date: October 12, 2016 02:31PM

Tim Forester OL/DL/long snapper - committed to Brown. He has had a great season so far for the Cougars.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 12, 2016 02:34PM

If Utility is for two-way players, Zach Monson at WestPo never comes off the field. His highlight reel is pretty impressive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Hawk ()
Date: October 12, 2016 02:44PM

I'm a fan of that list. However, OL Tim Forester 4 year starter at Oakton. D1 Commit to Brown. Walton could be bumped up.. very fundamentally sound. Thomas ahead of Murphy at TE. Thomas doing more damage against better opponents. Frimpong could also bump up a few spots ahead as we close in on the end of the season. DB Hunter Streb often overlooked too...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: October 12, 2016 02:46PM

Mr. Fondue Wrote:
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> All region watch list
>
> Here is my 6a north all region watch list at the
> midpoint of the season. Feel free to rip it apart.
> Slots were based upon play on film, exposure ,
> statistics, as well as raw potential to continue
> to play at a high level. I felt these players
> currently have deserved the spots they are in. I
> am sure the top teams will sneak some of their
> guys on the list by the end of the season.Plenty
> of football to still be played.
>
> Offense
>
> *west Potomac is loaded but one guy hasn't quite
> made an absolute claim for an all region spot
>
> QB Jack McDaniels South County
> QB Jacob Keeney Hayfield
> QB Timothy Heltzel Mount Vernon
>
> RB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
> RB Jalen Jackson Annandale
> RB Spencer Alston South Lakes
> RB Landon Thomas Madison
>
> TE Andrew Park Lake Braddock
> TE Jimmy Murphy Fairfax
> TE Corey Thomas Chantilly
>
> WR Dillon Spalding South County
> WR Daniel Adu West Springfield
> WR Brian Cobbs Hayfield
> WR Quinn Parks Washington and Lee
> WR Darien Newton Mount Vernon
>
> OL Pierce Banbury Oakton
> OL Nick Bernachhi Robinson
> OL David Kroll South Lakes
> OL Jacob Laub Lake Braddock
> OL Marshal McCord McLean
> OL Cameron Lucas South County
> OL Jack Blevins Hayfield
>
>
> Bubble
>
> Mikel Gambel Mount Vernon
> Zach Monson West Potomac
> Adam Kucick Herndon
> Jacob Chautka Madison
> Ricardo Mestre Washington and Lee
> Devin Miles South Lakes
> Mark Ellis West Potomac
> Jo Jo Heisley Woodson
> Ivory Frimpong Westfield
> Julian Garret Centreville
> Brandon Lisenby West Potomac
> Reid Scarborough Robinson
> Nolan Cockrill Westfield
> Jaden Snead Herndon
> Nick Miller Washington and Lee
> Daiimon Cleveland West Potomac
> Jacquez Stewart Robinson
> Ty Crabb Lake Braddock
>
>
>
> Defense
>
> This is harder to gage with less statistics
> available
>
> DL Caleb Brooks Centreville
> DL Brailyn Franklin Battlefield
> DL Zach Jewell Westfield
> DL Brad Porter Madison
>
>
> LB Joshua King Battlefield
> LB Da'jon Bellfield West Potomac
> LB Kevin Petrillo Westfield
> LB Ryan Wolfe Hayfield
> LB Lamont Atkins Lake Braddock
> LB Tyrese Randall T.C. Williams
>
>
> DB Sam Kidd Madison
> DB Shemahr Brown Annandale
> DB Cristian Massie South County
> DB Asa Ward Lake Braddock
> DB Isaiah Culliver Centreville
>
>
>
>
> Bubble
>
> Eric Nabinett South County
> Hunter Strebb Chantilly
> Nate Avery South County
> Ladarion Rivers Westfield
> Chris Logan South Lakes
> Tyler Iriondo Robinson
> Brahim Bangura Annandale
> Chris Watson Oakton
>
>
>
> K Brian Delaney Westfield
> K Matt Prosser Oakton
>
> P Sean Ryan Fairfax
>
>
> The following players star on both offense,
> defense and specials teams for their respective
> teams. I imagine they will make all region in some
> capacity.
>
>
> Utility John Finney Madison
> Utility Mark Brown Centreville
> Utility Ibrahim Marnsary Lake Braddock

I didn't notice any offensive linemen on your bubble. Two additional O linemen for your consideration for this list are Tim Forster from Oakton and Brian Pevarnik from Fairfax. Both are getting looks at the next level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A Guys? ()
Date: October 12, 2016 03:11PM

Especially since some of our 5A teams are every bit as strong as 6A, how about a list of kids from those schools - especially since individual kids can be great no matter what size school?

Best running backs?

Best offensive lineman?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: d6KdE ()
Date: October 12, 2016 03:12PM

Although I do not have the stats for Fairfax's Ryan at punter, it is hard to believe he is doing better than Westfield's Delaney. Delaney gets my vote as both punter and kicker (KOs, not FG). Never seen anyone in the NR who has his leg.

Cockrill is arguably the best TE in the region, but Westfield has never gone to the tight end so he doesn't have the stats you usually see from a TE. He probably has better hands than either Frimpong or Eckert on the Westfield squad and has the ability to get yards with guys all over him.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Done deal ()
Date: October 12, 2016 06:05PM

Forester has already committed to Brown...he is the next level, more importantly he's Intelligent and a good young man.

Hands Down Delaney is the Best Punter in the Region/State his average would be 20 yards better if he didn't kick 8 out of 10 punts through the end zone. He had 5 punts against StoneBridge ( Who physically kicked Westfield's Ass) that travelled 55-60 yards in the air before hitting inside the 5 and rolling thru end-zone..killing his net.

Hembry is the most dynamic player at 5A in the Region Offensively and will be playing big time football at the next level as a DB.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loudoun Insider ()
Date: October 12, 2016 08:25PM

I agree that Hembry (Broad Run)is the most dynamic player in the area - 6A, 5A, 4A, whatever.
You are correct in that he is a terrific DB, but a little short for a FS or SS, and just a step slow for CB. (4.55 range).
Sort of a tweener, although at 5'10 and 185-190, he is the strongest pound for pound runner I have seen in years. Stone Bridge will do a good job containing him, but he will take down their LB's and CB's with that shoulder dip and make them pay. Kid must have run over 15 Yorktown tacklers in 20 carries. After Stone Bridge wins in a close one, Broad Run will run the table and win in the playoffs... until they see Stone Bridge or Brooke Point (who also has a 2,000 yard rusher in the making.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 12, 2016 09:57PM

d6KdE Wrote:
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> Although I do not have the stats for Fairfax's
> Ryan at punter, it is hard to believe he is doing
> better than Westfield's Delaney. Delaney gets my
> vote as both punter and kicker (KOs, not FG).
> Never seen anyone in the NR who has his leg.
>
> Cockrill is arguably the best TE in the region,
> but Westfield has never gone to the tight end so
> he doesn't have the stats you usually see from a
> TE. He probably has better hands than either
> Frimpong or Eckert on the Westfield squad and has
> the ability to get yards with guys all over him.


Yep Cockrill is very talented, it's a shame he's being primarily used as a blocker.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dummy the greek ()
Date: October 12, 2016 11:36PM

Nitpick w/ your bubble players: Justine Annan is having a stronger season than Daiimon Cleveland at West Potomac.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: writing on the wall ()
Date: October 13, 2016 09:15AM

Who is POY of the year so far ? My vote goes to Keeney. If Hayfield keeps winning I dont see anybody catching him. South Lakes and Madison will be a challenge. But i mean cmon,the guy has like 30 total touchdowns.

Mcdaniels, Atkins, and Spalding aren't far behind but spalding and atkins have each been contained in 1 game and Mcdaniels not starting the season will hurt him. Its Keeneys to lose.

As far as defensive POY goes it has to be Sam Kidd from Madison. That guy is an animal at SS.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 13, 2016 10:41AM

Sam Kidd returns punts too.

The WP posted a noted that Madison's QB Jacob Choutka has an almost 7:1 TD to interception ratio,best in northern region. (bonus points if you can pronounce his last name).

Anyone want to venture an early line on the Madison at South Lakes game?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: readerofthreads ()
Date: October 13, 2016 11:15AM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Anyone want to venture an early line on the
> Madison at South Lakes game?


Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 09, 2016 06:26AM

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
*This is the game of the week and a first must-watch Liberty game in quite some time as these two unbeatens square off. I'm really torn here as I can see South Lakes taking this one, but I'm a big believer in quality competition and Madison has been more tested. That being said the Seahawks can only play who is on their schedule and have absolutely dominated.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fann ()
Date: October 13, 2016 12:07PM

South Lakes Takes this Game 31 to 23...this will re-focus Madison so they have a chance to get by a Lower Seed Concorde Team like Chantilly or Westfield in the first/second round of play-offs...A chance not going to win...but a chance that's liberty Reality!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 13, 2016 12:52PM

Chantilly @ Oakton (-14.0)
Oakton wins but does not cover

Edison @ Tuscarora (-45.0)
They may need some extra bulbs for the score board. Tusky covers.

Falls Church (-49.0) @ Jefferson
Falls Church covers

Hayfield (-17.0) @ Langley
Hayfield by 28.

Lake Braddock (-24.0) @ Woodson
I think LB wins, but doesn't cover that spread.

Madison (-7.0) @ South Lakes
I'll take South Lakes.

Marshall @ Lee (-7.0)
Marshall takes this. Lee is a bad, bad football team.

Robinson @ Westfield (-7.0)
Yeah, I don't see Westfield losing twice in a row.

South County (-25.0) @ Mount Vernon
And the Reality Tour continues for Mt. Vernon. SoCo covers.

Stuart @ Wakefield (-1.0)
I'll take Stuart

Washington-Lee (-17.0) @ Fairfax
Washington Lee wins but doesn't cover.

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Annandale
West Potomac wins and covers.

Yorktown (-15.0) @ McLean
Yorktown covers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Give me Liberty ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:51AM

Madison @ S Lakes

Its going to come down to DEFENSE. Can S Lakes run the ball. So far Alston and Mensah have run all over everyone. Will they be able to run against arguably the best defense in the region? Stone Bridge wasnt able to. Can S Lakes throw? Miles is a wily veteran at QB, and should be ready for this big contest.

Will the S Lakes defense be able to stop Madison? Here's a tidbit, Madisons 2 best running banks, Counts and Koshuto both out for the year with ACLs. Thomas is a converted tailback. He had huge games vs Yorktown and Marshall, but how will he do against better teams? This will be a huge factor. Mad has good receivers, so SL better be able to cover them in one on one matchups. Finny and Conrorti are tough in single coverage.

Special teams could be key. Both teams have had big plays this year on ST. S Lakes appears to have a better kicking game. A factor if the game is close.

I think Madison wins because of their defense. DC Razor Gordon has a great defense every year, and this team is exceptional. Once he stops the run, S Lakes will be in trouble. Same thing happened last year. Mad by at least 14.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mcLKP ()
Date: October 14, 2016 10:29AM

Give me Liberty Wrote:
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> Madison @ S Lakes

> Will the S Lakes defense be able to stop Madison?
> Here's a tidbit, Madisons 2 best running banks,
> Counts and Koshuto both out for the year with
> ACLs.

Is this really true? I was at the Stone Bridge game and Counts was pretty much Madisons's running game and he was very solid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR coach ()
Date: October 14, 2016 10:49AM

I think South lakes will take this one. i think SL will out athlete madison and be able to get some points on the board

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: rawnumbers ()
Date: October 14, 2016 11:03AM

Since everyone always like to obsess over student enrollment below are the numbers for FCPS schools for the new school year:

Lake Braddock 2805
Chantilly 2741
Robinson 2702
Westfield 2578
West Potomac 2575
Centreville 2507
Oakton 2492
South Lakes 2483
Woodson 2411
Fairfax 2347
Herndon 2307
South County 2210
West Springfield 2209
Madison 2188
Marshall 2151
Annandale 2101
Stuart 2095
McLean 2053
Edison 2044
Mount Vernon 2008
Hayfield 1976
Langley 1973
Falls Church 1956
Jefferson 1789
Lee 1777

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 14, 2016 11:59AM

"Is this really true? I was at the Stone Bridge game and Counts was pretty much Madison's running game and he was very solid."

Yes, both are out.

Landon Thomas is quick, good and faster than people think. Sam Kidd has line up in the backfield too. Sophomore Brandon Walker is tough and looks good picking holes on sweeps, 6-7 yards a shot. They also runs screens inside and out to Conforti and Finney.

Like the others have said it will come down to defense, who can stop who. Madison defense closes quickly on the ball. South Lakes will get some points, I think it is on the side of whether South Lakes can slow down Madison's offense. My thought is the score will be in the 20's and may come down to missed (or not) extra points. Madison by 4 or 5.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GOFALCONS ()
Date: October 14, 2016 01:33PM

Here is a fact you can count on. Briar Woods is going to drop Potomac Falls to 5-2 and hand them their second consecutive loss. Maffe and the boys are on a roll and are going to seize control of the Potomac District. Pierce is a much better coach than Barnes and it will show tonight. You read it here first. State Championship here we come!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Um - delusional? ()
Date: October 14, 2016 06:03PM

Ok, so maybe Briar beats Potomac Falls. They are 5=1 because they have played an incredibly soft schedule, and got past Broad Run on Week One before Broad Run had a quarterback in. Broad Run outgunned them bu over 200 yards!
Oh, and there is absolutely NO chance that Briar beats Stone Bridge - so they have NO shot to win the district.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 14, 2016 08:00PM

Halftime Madison 7 South Lakes 14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NDhdm ()
Date: October 14, 2016 08:20PM

left the Braddock Woodson game at halftime - blowout 28-0 Braddock beating the snot out of the upper class Cavs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield cheats again ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:23PM

Am at the game, Westfield just wins on last second field goal but based on getting onside kick that Westfield did not get control of before going out of bounds. Pact with the devil and the refs still works. Better to be cheaters than good, that is Westfields approach.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:27PM

Madison 23 South Lakes and the Blind Mice 21

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:28PM

Err...typo Madison 13 South Lakes and the Blind Mice 21

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Agreed dude ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:28PM

Yep watching it on gameday, he did not get in bounds on control of onsides. Refs stole that game from Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:34PM

Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are the best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a down year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two teams by 50.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF DAD ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:43PM

We won fair and square, fair and square I tell you. Westfield is a winner.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No duh ()
Date: October 14, 2016 09:58PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are the
> best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a down
> year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two teams
> by 50.


Thank you captain obvious... regardless, as someone said before, the talent may just be more dispersed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CvmnL ()
Date: October 14, 2016 10:00PM

Westfield cheats again Wrote:
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> Am at the game, Westfield just wins on last second
> field goal but based on getting onside kick that
> Westfield did not get control of before going out
> of bounds. Pact with the devil and the refs still
> works.

It is true. I saw the refs getting paid off in the Cub Run Rec Center parking lot. To add insult to injury they did it in view of the Robinson buses.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: not exactly ()
Date: October 14, 2016 10:14PM

No duh Wrote:
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> NovaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just leaving the SL-Madison game. If these are
> the
> > best 2 teams in the region, then it must be a
> down
> > year. The 2013 Centreville beats these two
> teams
> > by 50.
>
>
> Thank you captain obvious... regardless, as
> someone said before, the talent may just be more
> dispersed.

That might be a bit of a stretch, the '13 C'ville team beat SL by 35 in the first round of the playoffs and the '13 SL team would easily lose to this years SL team by 50 or more. I don't disagree that the NR is down this year but I do believe there is some perception inflation going on here.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mvbm ()
Date: October 14, 2016 10:30PM

South County cruised to an easy 56-13 win against Mount Vernon.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton what a joke ()
Date: October 14, 2016 11:25PM

Cougars drop a heartbreaker to Chantilly 27-23. Corey Thomas s an incredible player and their offense is much better than I expected. Oakton however is a hot mess, with Rowley leaving players to dry and not adjusting his scheme or his personnel. Oakton will be missing out on playoffs this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 14, 2016 11:30PM

Not gonna lie.... Westfield got 3-4 calls in this game that stole it from Robinson.
1) 1st half WF punts the ball into the endzone and the refs mark it down at the 1/2 yd line. Clearly a touchback

2) WF down 9 with 3 minutes left gains 10 USA on a pass, Robinson strips the ball and recovers, but the refs call him down

3) inside kicks gets batted around, WF kid falls on the ball 2 feet out of bounds and recovers it 3 feet out of bounds. Refs meet and give the ball to WF with 1 minute left

WF was completely outplayed but got a gift from the refs. We'll take it but I feel bad for the Robinson kids and coaches. Thought Robo handled it well. No coaches or players making a sense. They shook hands and left.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: October 14, 2016 11:49PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Not gonna lie.... Westfield got 3-4 calls in this
> game that stole it from Robinson.
> 1) 1st half WF punts the ball into the endzone and
> the refs mark it down at the 1/2 yd line. Clearly
> a touchback
>
> 2) WF down 9 with 3 minutes left gains 10 USA on a
> pass, Robinson strips the ball and recovers, but
> the refs call him down
>
> 3) inside kicks gets batted around, WF kid falls
> on the ball 2 feet out of bounds and recovers it 3
> feet out of bounds. Refs meet and give the ball
> to WF with 1 minute left
>
> WF was completely outplayed but got a gift from
> the refs. We'll take it but I feel bad for the
> Robinson kids and coaches. Thought Robo handled
> it well. No coaches or players making a sense.
> They shook hands and left.


If you look hard you can always find calls that didn't go your way - ROB had every opportunity to win that game. They didn't close the deal and had every chance to do so.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield dad ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:23AM

And Westfield is favored by our savior Jesus Christ

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield phony ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:24AM

Watch the Film jackass the on-side kick was recovered in bounds...can't miss it on the Film... Losers complain about Ref calls and last minute Bullshit when they should have put the Game away long before...slow motion...really slow motion...#97 Scoops ball, both knees down, Slides out of Bounds..possession Westfield...You lose..Sorry the better Team doesn't always win!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wow Bob ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:40AM

Broad Run beats Stone Bridge 10-7. Classic high school football game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5A Failures ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:45AM

Guaranteed Win for Briar Woods and Guaranteed win for Stone Bridge from Above. Stick to betting on Horses Loser!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Get be me Liberty ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:48AM

Thank goodness, Madison is now officially poised for their first Round play-off loss....the Razor was a bit dull tonight huh?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TWEyc ()
Date: October 15, 2016 08:13AM

Anyone got the score of the Centreville-Herndon game?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cville herndon ()
Date: October 15, 2016 08:56AM

it is a Sat aft game

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TWEyc ()
Date: October 15, 2016 09:20AM

cville herndon Wrote:
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> it is a Sat aft game

Oh. Anyone got a spread on that one? Centreville -24?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Madison ()
Date: October 15, 2016 09:48AM

Madison is a legit contender. They lost to a very good South Lakes team, but played badly and still had a chance to win. If Choutka plays better in first half and couple of terrible calls don't stop them, they win that game. They are strong on defense-Porter and Kidd are both monsters and some of the best defensive players in 6A. Offense is electric with tons of playmakers-Conforti and Finney are both studs and crazy athletes, Thomas, Hecht, Kidd, and Choutka very good players. One thing that has hurt them and will hurt them is injuries, already lost 2 best running backs Counts and Koshuta to torn ACL's, Counts also starting corner(secondary struggled vs South Lakes), another big O-lineman hurt last night. Very well coached and disciplined, want to win, hungry to avenge last season when they should've gone deep in playoffs, will be a serious threat

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Madison envy ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:02PM

Madison did not look that great last night against South Lakes

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 15, 2016 12:54PM

I understand that Westfield has a really good young running back, #8. But instead of feeding it to him all the time I think they should air it out a lot more. They have a pretty good passing attack. There's no reason they shouldn't be passing it more considering they have 2 D1 wide receivers. #4 especially is very good after the catch. So can someone tell me why they decide to pound the ball a lot or have a lot of designed QB runs when they have had a lot of success in the limited amounts of time they take deep shots?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Watcher ()
Date: October 15, 2016 02:32PM

Westfield has underutilized good receivers for years now. They are a ground and pound team even when they shouldn't be. Didn't really have a ground game last yeAr until they moved scanlon out to receiver. As a junior scanlon rarely got the ball which is crazy when you saw what he did to lake Braddock last year. Westfield has a running culture and unless they catch lightning in a bottle again like they did last year I wouldn't be surprised to see a second round exit from the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fanboy ()
Date: October 15, 2016 03:34PM

Westfield Does not have a really good young running back...They have a Sophmore that looked pretty Good as a Freshmen against a lot of Week Talent...His success has not translated to the Varsity Level..he is not fast, rather Stiff running upright most of the Time. Now in his defense the offensive line is decimated..both big guards lost against Quince Orchard..Still nursing injuries both of them ( don't show much Heart) it has been a constant shuffle of lineman actually forcing them to start their Sophmore center to shore up the Tackle Spot. Additionally they are Utilizing one of their more skilled players as a sixth blocker on most passing downs as well as keeping a running back in to block making it easy for defenses to double cover #2 and # 4 and if you are a True Westfield fan as you state, then I don't need to tell you, every time #2 or #4 look like a Superstar...they turn around and drop the next perfect pass. The QB has a hard time working through his progressions either by pressure or tunnel vision...Westfield offensively has 3 weeks to get healthy and figure things out or you My Friend will be forced to spend Thanksgiving at your in-laws house for the first time in 6 years....Defense decimated Also...Still managing to keep offense close even with 5 Starters out...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Enough.... ()
Date: October 15, 2016 04:16PM

List of local teams that could beat Westfield this year:

Stone Bridge
Briar Woods
Broad Run
Centreville
Lake Braddock
South Lakes
Madison
Woodbridge
Potomac Falls
Tuscarora

Teams with chance to beat them in Playoffs:

Robinson
South County
Battlefield
Hayfield
West Potomac

Thank you for reading.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: tbJYE ()
Date: October 15, 2016 05:25PM

Westfield cheats again Wrote:
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> Am at the game, Westfield just wins on last second
> field goal but based on getting onside kick that
> Westfield did not get control of before going out
> of bounds. Pact with the devil and the refs still
> works. Better to be cheaters than good, that is
> Westfields approach.

Look at the replay on Gameday. Cockrill got control before he slid out of bounds. Fool.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WcLuX ()
Date: October 15, 2016 05:31PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Not gonna lie.... Westfield got 3-4 calls in this
> game that stole it from Robinson.
> 1) 1st half WF punts the ball into the endzone and
> the refs mark it down at the 1/2 yd line. Clearly
> a touchback
>
> 2) WF down 9 with 3 minutes left gains 10 USA on a
> pass, Robinson strips the ball and recovers, but
> the refs call him down
>
> 3) inside kicks gets batted around, WF kid falls
> on the ball 2 feet out of bounds and recovers it 3
> feet out of bounds. Refs meet and give the ball
> to WF with 1 minute left
>
> WF was completely outplayed but got a gift from
> the refs. We'll take it but I feel bad for the
> Robinson kids and coaches. Thought Robo handled
> it well. No coaches or players making a sense.
> They shook hands and left.

1. Wrong. The rule says if the ball is controlled before it goes into the endzone the play is dead. That is why the ball was placed at the one half yard line.
2. Don't remember this play.
3. Cockrill did have control in bounds before rolling out of bounds. WF ball.
4. You forgot one huge mistake that went Robinson's way. Deep in WF territory #22 was lifted up and then stripped of the ball before he even hit the ground. WF recovers but the umpire runs in emphatically pointing the runner down. Maybe the other calls were close but this one was not. A Robinson coach standing next to me even turned to me and said "now, that was a fumble".

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF DADDIE ()
Date: October 15, 2016 06:03PM

Never question us at Westfield, we are above questioning, we are Westfield, we are the chosen ones. By the way, dixie cupping still on tonite boys since you pulled out the squeaker.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: enough enough ()
Date: October 15, 2016 06:10PM

Enough, you are the same fool that guaranteed a Briar Woods Win and a Stone Bridge Win last night...any given Friday...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ROBO Dad ()
Date: October 15, 2016 07:33PM

You've proved yourself wrong. One a player is "picked up" his forward motion has stopped and he is down. Therefore a pick up and strip of the ball would not be possible... Nice try

The onside kick could have gone either way. Whatever sideline that play occurred on will get that call most nights.

The non-touchback punt was terrible. Maybe the worst call I've seen in the past 2-3 years. No player controlled or possessed the ball to down it that's why the ball was bouncing around in the endzone.

Props to WF for not quitting and making the most of the chances they got. A lot of teams would have given up down 9 with 5 minutes left.

Lastly, the refs are never perfect so it's hard to blame them. It just seemed that a lot of the 50/50 calls went to the same team last night.... Maybe we were just unlucky

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: U69W7 ()
Date: October 16, 2016 10:39AM

ROBO Dad Wrote:
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> You've proved yourself wrong. One a player is
> "picked up" his forward motion has stopped and he
> is down. Therefore a pick up and strip of the
> ball would not be possible... Nice try

If what you say is true, then any time a player's forward momentum is stopped but the ball is stripped for a fumble at the same time, those fumbles would be negated. Man, that equals a ton of bad calls by officials.
>
> The onside kick could have gone either way.
> Whatever sideline that play occurred on will get
> that call most nights.

True-an onsides kick is almost always a toss up. But I certainly don't buy your assertion that whichever team's bench it happens in front of gets the call-that is insulting to the officiating crew. Those guys are above that and work hard to call the game fair. In fact, in HS good officials often let stuff go if it does not have an affect on the play or is not a foul that can injure a player. They also "teach" during games, giving players a chance to correct minor infractions and avoiding a flag unless the player repeats the mistake.
>
> The non-touchback punt was terrible. Maybe the
> worst call I've seen in the past 2-3 years. No
> player controlled or possessed the ball to down it
> that's why the ball was bouncing around in the
> endzone.

If this is the "worst call" you've seen in 2-3 years you must not be watching that many games. Questionable? Yes. But HS does not have the advantage if instant replay. Again, the officials are not out to get any one team-they try to do their best.

> Props to WF for not quitting and making the most
> of the chances they got. A lot of teams would
> have given up down 9 with 5 minutes left.
>
> Lastly, the refs are never perfect so it's hard to
> blame them. It just seemed that a lot of the
> 50/50 calls went to the same team last night....
> Maybe we were just unlucky

Was WF outplayed considering the entirety of the game? Yes. But they did step up when it counted. Sometimes the team that outperforms does not win-we all know that. That is why we fans still go to the games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: October 16, 2016 10:49AM

South Lakes will win the region this year...Scary thing is we return everyone next year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pump the brakes, South Lakes... ()
Date: October 16, 2016 01:30PM

104
53
117
186
171
193

Those numbers? Those are the state rankings for the teams that they defeated before Madison.

#53 - Briar Woods lost by 7, outgained and outplayed SL.

And yes, it does hurt Madison that their top two running backs are out.

Hey, I have nothing against SL. They are enjoying a great season. All I am saying is that they are fresh and not beat up by playing the Little Sisters of the Poor.

I am sorry - don't see them making Regional final.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Best in State ()
Date: October 16, 2016 01:34PM

If you haven't seen Hembry from Broad Run, check out what he did in last two minutes to beat Stone Bridge Friday night. Go to Gameday magazine and check out Moments of Glory. You don't need a membership for this highlight. Kid is on his way to second consecutive 2,000 yard season and might be a better DB than RB. What a finish!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: e3uMc ()
Date: October 16, 2016 02:31PM

WF Dad Wrote:
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> Petrillo is not out for the year. He will be back
> this week. Westfield will start their annual
> march deep into the post-season this week. This
> is the time of the year when they start to really
> improve.

BTW, Petrillo did not play. Word has it that Petrillo, Free and Lydic are done for the season. In addition to Rivers. WFD might be able to beat Robinson with a JV defense but that isn't going to take them far into the playoffs. Reality.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 16, 2016 04:45PM

e3uMc Wrote:
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> WF Dad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Petrillo is not out for the year. He will be
> back
> > this week. Westfield will start their annual
> > march deep into the post-season this week.
> This
> > is the time of the year when they start to
> really
> > improve.
>
> BTW, Petrillo did not play. Word has it that
> Petrillo, Free and Lydic are done for the season.
> In addition to Rivers. WFD might be able to beat
> Robinson with a JV defense but that isn't going to
> take them far into the playoffs. Reality.


Don't know about the other 2 but I'm pretty sure a concussion isn't gonna keep Petrillo out for the year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the U91 ()
Date: October 16, 2016 04:49PM

The region is down this year, but South Lakes and Madison are still 2nd tier teams. They will struggle with Hayfield. I see Hayfield beating both of these teams.

All 3 will make the playoffs, but if/when they play Centreville, Braddock, Battlefield or South County in the playoffs, their seasons will be done!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 16, 2016 04:58PM

Westfield probably won't win the region this year but they will definetly beat Madison or South Lakes. Those teams don't have enough playoff experience to make a run. I can definetly see South Lakes contending next year tho. And as for Westfield, when they are healthy, hopefully will be in 3 weeks, they have talent and the coaching to beat anyone.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nah nah nah ()
Date: October 16, 2016 06:36PM

the U91 Wrote:
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> The region is down this year, but South Lakes and
> Madison are still 2nd tier teams. They will
> struggle with Hayfield. I see Hayfield beating
> both of these teams.
>
> All 3 will make the playoffs, but if/when they
> play Centreville, Braddock, Battlefield or South
> County in the playoffs, their seasons will be
> done!


What makes you think BF is better than 3 of those teams you mentioned, if the NR is down then Prince William is in the shitter, and seeing those teams I feel like my statement is justified. They never do anything special, they're always just "there" for the sake of representing the best of arguably the weakest football. I feel like Centreville vs any of those 3 would be a good match-up with favorability in the Liberty. Though it seems like an unpopular opinion, I still feel like LB would beat Centreville come the opportunity again. As for SOCO, they're making good adjustments, but it's hard to predict what they'll do. Regardless, as most people put it the region really is TBD.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Comparisons and shite ()
Date: October 16, 2016 06:43PM

Nah nah nah Wrote:
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> the U91 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The region is down this year, but South Lakes
> and
> > Madison are still 2nd tier teams. They will
> > struggle with Hayfield. I see Hayfield beating
> > both of these teams.
> >
> > All 3 will make the playoffs, but if/when they
> > play Centreville, Braddock, Battlefield or
> South
> > County in the playoffs, their seasons will be
> > done!
>
>
> What makes you think BF is better than 3 of those
> teams you mentioned, if the NR is down then Prince
> William is in the shitter, and seeing those teams
> I feel like my statement is justified. They never
> do anything special, they're always just "there"
> for the sake of representing the best of arguably
> the weakest football. I feel like Centreville vs
> any of those 3 would be a good match-up with
> favorability in the Liberty. Though it seems like
> an unpopular opinion, I still feel like LB would
> beat Centreville come the opportunity again. As
> for SOCO, they're making good adjustments, but
> it's hard to predict what they'll do. Regardless,
> as most people put it the region really is TBD.

It's hard to judge Liberty against other district leaders because they rarely face anyone of merit non-conference. They all defeated their Loudon County counterparts, and that's about it. Hayfield played a "coulda shoulda woulda" last few minute loss against SOCO. But who else? But that's it for them playing actual 6A powers (not to say that Madison, Hayfield, SL are not or can't be, but we don't presume them to be at the top like we do with LB, Centreville, and before, Westfield).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 16, 2016 07:56PM

Westfield phony Wrote:
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> Watch the Film jackass the on-side kick was
> recovered in bounds...can't miss it on the Film...
> Losers complain about Ref calls and last minute
> Bullshit when they should have put the Game away
> long before...slow motion...really slow
> motion...#97 Scoops ball, both knees down, Slides
> out of Bounds..possession Westfield...You
> lose..Sorry the better Team doesn't always win!

Watched it on Hudl. You are correct - seems like a clear cut recovery in bounds. Don't see how the ref could possibly have called it differently. A great football play by #97.
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Who's on Second ()
Date: October 16, 2016 08:20PM

Great call by the referee to make the right call in real time. As the film shows clearly #97 was inbounds..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Followi the Bouncing Ball ()
Date: October 16, 2016 08:29PM

The above pictures tell you all you need to know about Westfield Football, They are SEVEN weeks into the Season and they finally get the biggest Target on the Field the Ball....and for a change he wasn't running Wide Open!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: North Fan ()
Date: October 16, 2016 08:30PM

Any clips of the fumble by #4 on the last TD drive and the downed punt call that pinned Robinson inside the 1 in the 1st half? From what I've heard from the officials, those are the calls the Robinson coaching staff was furious about.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 16, 2016 09:01PM

North Fan Wrote:
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> Any clips of the fumble by #4 on the last TD drive
> and the downed punt call that pinned Robinson
> inside the 1 in the 1st half? From what I've
> heard from the officials, those are the calls the
> Robinson coaching staff was furious about.

Both were 50-50 calls and happen to go in the home teams favor, nothing to really complain about. If we're gonna find every little thing to complain about how about #2 Sean Eckert getting tripped by the Robinson player in the end zone and not getting a PI call? Westfield settled for a FG in that drive. If you really look for something to complain about you will find. In my opinion there were no horrible calls, just a couple that could've went either way and Westfield happen to get them. Robinson just got unlucky. Best of luck to them. And as for Westfield, better hope they get healthy quick. Rivers is lost for the season but I think everybody else will be back soon. The 2 O-Linemen and the 3 defensive players. Westfield definetly has the talent to beat any team in the region, but it feels like they lack motivation this year, hopefully that changes soon. This game should serve as a wake up call. And #17 to #4 seemed kind of unstoppable last game, they should definetly pass more. As for the earlier parent boasting about how good South Lakes is and how they return everybody next year, how about their best player, David Kroll? Keep the bragging on the low until your team makes it out the second round. As for South Lakes and Madison, both teams seem talented although they lack playoff experience. If Madison is gonna do anything, this is their year, South Lakes has this year and next year but when their class of '18 graduates it looks like they will go back into mediocrity.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 16, 2016 09:37PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> As for South Lakes and Madison, both teams seem
> talented although they lack playoff experience. If
> Madison is gonna do anything, this is their year,
> South Lakes has this year and next year but when
> their class of '18 graduates it looks like they
> will go back into mediocrity.

You are the second person to comment that South Lakes doesn't have playoff experience. I would differ. They won a game last year and had a solid performance against the eventual state champion in the second round. I am sure they gained some valuable experience right there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 16, 2016 09:50PM

North Fan Wrote:
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> Any clips of the fumble by #4 on the last TD drive

I did see one replay but to my eyes it was inconclusive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 16, 2016 10:26PM

I'm late to the party this week, but I really liked what I saw out of South Lakes this week. They have athletes at every position and a pretty good line. They looked pretty legitimate and I'd certainly label them a contender for the region after seeing them in person.

What I found interesting though, is they got a lot of questionable calls in their favor that changed the complextion of the game. A roughing the passer call took a way an INT that led to a South Lakes touchdown and an ineligible man down field took away another Madison TD. I'm not saying either call was absolutely wrong, but both took the sails out of Madison and I don't think South Lakes would get those calls on the road. Madison and South Lakes are very even and I look forward to seeing how Hayfield fairs against the two.

It'll be interesting to see who emerges between the Hawks, Seahawks and Warhawks.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concorde Hyper ()
Date: October 17, 2016 12:53PM

Centreville (6-1, 2-0) @ Westfield (5-2, 2-0). This is a huge rivalry game – do not underestimate how important this game is to both teams even though they may not be perceived as the top teams in 6A North this year. I think Westfield was already looking past Robinson for this final (and Senior Night) home game of the season. This game is no doubt going to be for the Concorde Conference 5 title so it could be argued it is the game of the week despite no undefeated teams.

Centreville
W, Annandale (3-4), 42-0 / convincing win against a solid but lower tier team
W, Fairfax (0-7), 55-6 / routine win against a very very bad football team
W, Broad Run (5-2), 21-9 / impressive win against a 5A North Region contender
L, Tuscarora (5-3), 14-21 / close loss to a tough Potomac District power
W, Lake Braddock (6-1), 8-7 / impressive win against a top 6A North Region contender
W, Oakton (2-5), 21-12 / pedestrian win against a solid but lower tier Concorde District rival
W, Herndon (1-6), 49-17 / thorough domination of a very very bad football team

Points scored: 210
Points allowed: 72
Opponent’s record: 22-28

Westfield
W, Washington-Lee (2-5), 45-0 / nice win against a lower tier Liberty District team
W, South County (6-1), 17-13 / hung on to defeat a top 6A North Region contender
W, TC Williams (4-4), 21-14 / ground out a tough win against a solid middle-of-the-pack foe
L, Stone Bridge (5-2), 16-34 / were handled by a 5A North Region contender
W, Oakton (2-5), 41-3 / impressive win against a solid but lower tier Concorde District rival
L, Briar Woods (3-5), 34-35 / 2OT loss against a tough Potomac District power
W, Robinson (3-4), 29-28 / come-from-behind win against a tough Concorde District rival

Points scored: 203
Points allowed: 127
Opponent’s record: 25-26

So who will win? I have seen both teams in person this year and I think this should be a pretty close match-up. Offenses are about even (RB edge to CVILLE, QB/WR edge to WFD) but I think Centreville has without question the stouter defense. Centreville should win about 21-17. But if one team makes a lot more mistakes than the other it could be a 14 point win one way or another.

Delaney’s leg could be the difference maker again – his punting/kicking has kept some of Westfield’s games close by making the other team always have a full length field to drive. I would love to know what the average field position advantage Westfield has had this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 17, 2016 12:54PM

So..."Seahawks Rule" has created their own person South Lakes gloating thread... :(

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Warhawk Alum ()
Date: October 17, 2016 07:07PM

Props to South Lakes for the win over Madison. They were the better team. I think some of the calls hurt Madison. They had a long interception return completely wiped out by a roughing the passer penalty. In 2nd half Finney had a KO return to the 5 yard line that got moved back 15 yds for a penalty. Mad eventually scored but there was another penalty.

That being said, SL was able to run the ball a little. Alston is a weapon, and the QB Miles was great. Funaki is hard to cover for sure, and is good on defense. SL defense also came up huge with at least 3 turnovers and a goal line stand. They are a solid team, and will contend for the region.

I agree with others, Madison ground game struggled with Counts and Koshuta not in the lineup. I cant imagine Madison had more than 40 yards rushing in this game. After a slow start, Choutka did pretty good at QB.

If they play again in the regionals, I think its anybody's game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Dad ()
Date: October 18, 2016 10:55AM

Westfield is supreme - they will roll the table starting this week all the way to states again

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Shrink ()
Date: October 18, 2016 11:13AM

WF Dad, Clearly you have suffered a greater concussion than several of the players, who look to return to action this week if you believe what you wrote... or you are just Trolling under the WF moniker...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL Dad ()
Date: October 18, 2016 11:20AM

Not this year buddy boy. All your region are belong to us. Best Regards, South Lakes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: October 18, 2016 01:59PM

Centreville will drop quickly, they are a was been team and will never be a contender again,,one clown keeps trying to hype them.
Best of luck to all teams this week and stay healthy

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL rankings BS ()
Date: October 18, 2016 07:58PM

Apparently VHSL loves Centreville... Literally #1 on every list... playoff wise they're only #4. I'm not saying they're bad, but I mean really... VHSL is not based off of any statistic, so I GUESS beating a team that hasn't been ranked #1 for a few weeks in the last 15 seconds by quite honestly- luck makes them the best in their minds is whatever. Hell, I guess losing to a team that is no longer in their top 40 doesn't mean much... but OH YEAH beat a top team and you'll be #1 for sure despite losing to a nonimpressive 5A team nah... never happened.

Keep in mind: I'm not saying CVille is bad or doesn't have a chance, but they don't deserve that spot at this moment. It's stupid because they think they've reformed into their former glory... they're far from the 2013 team.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 18, 2016 08:36PM

VHSL rankings BS Wrote:
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> Apparently VHSL loves Centreville... Literally #1
> on every list... playoff wise they're only #4. I'm
> not saying they're bad, but I mean really... VHSL
> is not based off of any statistic, so I GUESS
> beating a team that hasn't been ranked #1 for a
> few weeks in the last 15 seconds by quite
> honestly- luck makes them the best in their minds
> is whatever. Hell, I guess losing to a team that
> is no longer in their top 40 doesn't mean much...
> but OH YEAH beat a top team and you'll be #1 for
> sure despite losing to a nonimpressive 5A team
> nah... never happened.
>
> Keep in mind: I'm not saying CVille is bad or
> doesn't have a chance, but they don't deserve that
> spot at this moment. It's stupid because they
> think they've reformed into their former glory...
> they're far from the 2013 team.

Are you referring to the VHSL Reference website? If so, chill out. The one thing the website does not do is play favorites. The entire ranking system is based entirely on mathmatical formula/algorithms. Calpreps does the same sort of thing.

You may not take much stock in it but keep in mind what VHSL Reference claims: "The rating system has correctly predicted the game winner in 82.6% of 23,512 games from 2000-2015 (19,421 Wins - 4,091 Losses)" That's not bad.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 18, 2016 11:10PM

Anybody know what the injury report for Westfield is gonna look like this week? It seems like this team always has an excuse for losing year in and year out. I will admit however that the excuse last year was valid. I didn't think getting those players back would make as big a difference as it did. Anyone think they can make a run when all 5 injured players (Rivers not included) come back?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 19, 2016 09:17AM

It seems like this team always has an excuse for losing year in and year out.

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You're sir/mam, are an idiot! Name one school in NOVA that has more wins over the past 16 seasons than Westfield.

I would think not having your best LB and DB hurt as well as 2 big OL would impact any team. Yet they still pulled out a win against a good Robinson team.

Do I think this team is as good as last years team, no. But you gotta hand it to them, their plugging in the next man up week after week and with the exception of Stone Bridge have been competitive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 19, 2016 09:19AM

Sorry for the grammatical errors, SIRI is not being cooperative today....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Karch Kiraly ()
Date: October 19, 2016 09:43AM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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>
> You're sir/mam, are an idiot! Name one school in
> NOVA that has more wins over the past 16 seasons
> than Westfield.

Madison Warhawks Girls Volleyball

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pablo Statcobar ()
Date: October 19, 2016 09:57AM

VHSL rankings BS Wrote:
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> Apparently VHSL loves Centreville...




I couldn't find it on the website, but they used to have the formula posted. It calculates the rating based on wins going back 10 years. So 2016 wins would be weighted a 10, 2015 wins a 9, 2014 wins an 8, etc. all the way back to 2007.

Why do wins 10 years ago have any bearing on today's rating? Beats me. That's why you'll constantly see teams with 4-5 losses in the final top 20. Stone Bridge was #15 last year with 5 losses. Because of their historical success, they get a high ranking even with 5 losses.

High school schedules are full of mismatches you don't have to be a genius to pick at a high percentage. We all know Fairfax is going 0-10 this year. That's padding my pick percentage.

I'd like to see the VHSL reference accuracy percentage between teams with a winning record. Bet it's closer to 50%.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chill dude ()
Date: October 19, 2016 10:10AM

His point was simple VHSL Reference is pure stats driven. No human opinion on who is better than who.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pablo is an idiot... ()
Date: October 19, 2016 12:17PM

VHSL only uses stats from the current year! Stone Bridge was ranked #15 last year with 5 losses because they played in the state final! They had an incredibly difficult schedule compared to most teams. Broad Run is ranked #14 this year because their losses are to the # 1 and # 3 teams in the state... or something like that - don't get all over me for minor mistakes. They do pretty well in their picks - not great, but pretty well. Of course picking games when both teams have winning records is difficult, same with both teams with losing records. Stats driven. That is all it is about. Of course, superior site is cal preps, and they do even better. Check out that site.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 19, 2016 04:47PM

Pablo Statcobar Wrote:

> I couldn't find it on the website, but they used
> to have the formula posted. It calculates the
> rating based on wins going back 10 years. So 2016
> wins would be weighted a 10, 2015 wins a 9, 2014
> wins an 8, etc. all the way back to 2007.

No. No. No. No. and No. You are completely incorrect.


> Why do wins 10 years ago have any bearing on
> today's rating? Beats me.


Because they don't. Why are you making this stuff up?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Upset? ()
Date: October 19, 2016 06:47PM

My sleeper pick this week will be Chantilly with a win over Briar Woods. IF chantilly can shut down maffe. The kids damn good. Fits perfectly into their system. However, you have got to love Corey Thomas and his refusal to quit. The kid bringing s it every damn week and toasted Oaktons secondary last week. He has got to love how people always choose other players over him. Maffe, is just more complete. He fits perfectly into their system. If Chantilly can find a way to get Thomas involved like they did last week, this could be a good one. Don't get me wrong. I like Briar Woods and if they execute like they have shown.. the W is theirs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: runnerup ()
Date: October 19, 2016 07:37PM

Pablo is an idiot... Wrote:
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> VHSL only uses stats from the current year! Stone
> Bridge was ranked #15 last year with 5 losses
> because they played in the state final! They had
> an incredibly difficult schedule compared to most
> teams. Broad Run is ranked #14 this year because
> their losses are to the # 1 and # 3 teams in the
> state... or something like that - don't get all
> over me for minor mistakes. They do pretty well in
> their picks - not great, but pretty well. Of
> course picking games when both teams have winning
> records is difficult, same with both teams with
> losing records. Stats driven. That is all it is
> about. Of course, superior site is cal preps, and
> they do even better. Check out that site.


So a state runner-up finishes 15th? That doesn't seem right either.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 19, 2016 08:21PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> It seems like this team always has an excuse for
> losing year in and year out.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
>
> You're sir/mam, are an idiot! Name one school in
> NOVA that has more wins over the past 16 seasons
> than Westfield.
>
> I would think not having your best LB and DB hurt
> as well as 2 big OL would impact any team. Yet
> they still pulled out a win against a good
> Robinson team.
>
> Do I think this team is as good as last years
> team, no. But you gotta hand it to them, their
> plugging in the next man up week after week and
> with the exception of Stone Bridge have been
> competitive.

Not saying they aren't good. In fact I think a healthy Westfield team can win the region. I'm just saying it's the same thing every season it seems. What was the last Westfield team that truly dominated in the regular season?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: West Po Po ()
Date: October 19, 2016 08:36PM

Six wins and one loss, Will the beat South County?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 19, 2016 09:02PM

What was the last Westfield team that truly dominated in the regular season?

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If you're talking outscoring opponents then it's 2012, they were 12-1, upset by Oakton in Region final. But they were also 12-1 in 2011, 11-3 in 2013, 12-2 in 2014, and 14-1 last year. That's the point I was trying to make, 166-38 since 2000, pretty dominating as a whole. Also consider that they've played in one of the tougher Districts over that period, that's pretty impressive.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfieldfootballhistorian ()
Date: October 20, 2016 01:16PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> What was the last Westfield team that truly
> dominated in the regular season?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
>
> If you're talking outscoring opponents then it's
> 2012, they were 12-1, upset by Oakton in Region
> final. But they were also 12-1 in 2011, 11-3 in
> 2013, 12-2 in 2014, and 14-1 last year. That's the
> point I was trying to make, 166-38 since 2000,
> pretty dominating as a whole. Also consider that
> they've played in one of the tougher Districts
> over that period, that's pretty impressive.

My OCD kicking in: Westfield overall record is 165-39. VHSL Reference has the score of their second game of the 2000 season incorrect. They lost to Strasburg 9-6 on a last minute field goal. VHSL Reference has that game as a 7-0 win. Game 3 vs Forest Park was their first win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WE WANT STEVE, WE WANT STEVE ()
Date: October 20, 2016 01:43PM

Steve K, where your lines at? It's Thursday afternoon.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kimmy THE GEEK ()
Date: October 20, 2016 02:28PM

For the WIN:

Annandale v. South County, Jim, Jack, Bo Daniels could play QB this week and South County still wins by 30. Annandale scores 14, just because even against the worst teams, undisciplined South County still turns the ball over and gets idiotic penalties!

Briar Woods v. Chantilly the Maffe vs. Thomas Bowl as it has been tagged, unfortunately Thomas cant snap, pass and Block for himself, he can only run through Oakton's Secondary, this is not Oakton, Briar Woods by 10.

Broad Run v. Oakton, After the Hembry Train single handedly smacked Stone Bridge Silly, he will pull a Super Corey Thomas and make Oakton wish they only lost by 3 in the last minute to Chantilly's super star...see there are Kids that think they are D-1 Players, and then there are Men amongst Boys who are D-1 Players NORTHERN VA's BEST PLAYER continues his hot trend, BR by 21.

Centreville v. Westfield always a cross-town classic, if Centreville can run-up 250-300 yards much like Stonebridge (460) Briar Woods (250+) they will have a winning formula, if on the other hand they take 8-10 minutes to score and have 5-6 penalties a drive they may suffer the same fate as Robinson, outplay your opponent and Lose. Westfield has got to be creative and stop thinking they can run between the tackles, Centreville front 3, probably the best in Region, if they get Johnson to the edge with pass first, run second option Westfield could make it interesting. Centreville 27- Westfield 24.

Edison v. Fallschurch Stay Home and catch up on your weeks DVR recordings, unless your kids in the band, that 8 minutes at half-time still not worth the price of admission, Falls Church by 20.

Fairfax v. Madison, almost isn't fair for Fairfax, Madison proved they are only a 9 win team, regular season, just couldn't get it done last week, Choutka and the Boys make themselves believe they can get by the first round of the play-offs this week, Madison by 35.

Herndon v. Robinson, seasons can turn on performances like Robinson previous week. Unfortunately for Herndon, they do not have enough in the tank to Pull a Westfield, Robinson still reeling by 10.

Jefferson v. Lee some one will get a W Friday, unfortunately as bad as Lee is, Jefferson is the worst, Lee looks like a Play-off contender is for only 1- night, Lee by 24.

Lake Braddock v West Springfield, South County should lend West Springfield their second team players, simply to keep Lake Braddocks starters on the field beyond half-time, quite possibly causing a tweaked ham-string or something for a Braddock starter Prior to the week 10 showdown which will send Braddock or South County to the play-offs with 2-losses...the areas most hyped team prior to week 1 gets hammered, Braddock by 24.

McLean v W&L, W&L does what it needs to do against weak teams, McLean may be 1-2 starters better than Jefferson and that's it, W&L begins their play-off push, W&L by 23.

South Lakes v. Langley, the track meet gets back on track this week after a slow down last week, South Lakes must score 50+ to fuel the dream, the Dream of hoisting a region Banner, South lakes by 31.

T.C v. West Potomac, not as easy a game as the 6-1 PO's believe, T.C. will keep it close before fading late, west Potomac by 17.

Tuscarora v. Stone Bridge, After last weeks inability to stop what everyone Knew was going to happen, Stone Bridge is thirsty for a beat Down, Tuscarora will unfortunately be the little Brother, Stone-Bridge will only see the #2 on every Tusky Player to handle the ball, Stone-Bridge By 12.

W.T Woodson v. Mount Vernon, looks as if the Vernon Rocket has come back to earth, Woodson will spread and Shred Vernon, Woodson by 14.

Wakefield v. Marshall, thank goodness for Teams like Wakefield, Edison, Jefferson, Fairfax, or we would be trashing the likes of Marshall, lee, Falls Church, Mclean even more than necessary, Marshall looks like state Champs if only for 1 - night, Marshall by 21.

Yorktown v. Hayfield, the Hawks are flying High, so high you might want to check the water..Hawks by 28.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Centreville ()
Date: October 20, 2016 06:14PM

Is Centreville are the best area for football in the region? Two powerhouse teams in that area. Like 5 of the last 12 state championships good. What other cities come to mind?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 21, 2016 01:02AM

Annandale @ South County (-31.0)
Briar Woods (-13.0) @ Chantilly
Broad Run (-7.0) @ Oakton
Centreville (-1.0) @ Westfield
Edison @ Falls Church (-25.0)
Fairfax @ Madison (-28.0)
Herndon @ Robinson (-30.0)
Jefferson @ Lee (-30.0)
Lake Braddock (-14.0) @ West Springfield
McLean @ Washington Lee (-20.0)
South Lakes (-16.0) @ Langley
Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-34.0)
TC Williams @ West Potomac (-15.0)
Tuscarora @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)
Woodson (-6.0) @ Mount Vernon
Wakefield @ Marshall (-1.0)
Yorktown @ Hayfield (-22.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VhtWv ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:38AM

Centreville Wrote:
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> Is Centreville are the best area for football in
> the region? Two powerhouse teams in that area.
> Like 5 of the last 12 state championships good.
> What other cities come to mind?

Centreville area does not get that much credit because ironically their two schools have a physical address of Clifton (Centreville HS) and Chantilly (Westfield HS). But obviously the vast majority of students at both schools are really Centreville kids.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region Fan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 05:00PM

Thank you for the lines, really enjoy you doing these. Now I'll take a crack:

Steve K Wrote:
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> Annandale @ South County (-31.0)

South County is too much for Annandale. SC wins and covers.

> Briar Woods (-13.0) @ Chantilly

Chantilly is down this year. How do you explain being tied with McLean(!) at halftime. Briar Woods wins and covers.

> Broad Run (-7.0) @ Oakton

I'll take Broad Run here.

> Centreville (-1.0) @ Westfield

I believe that Westfield is the better team. I'll take them here, straight up (And if I can get a point, that's all the better).

> Edison @ Falls Church (-25.0)

No idea who wins here. I'll take Falls Church to win, but not cover.

> Fairfax @ Madison (-28.0)

I was hoping for much more from Fairfax this season, but last week's showing against WL convinces me that they are as bad as they seem. Hopefully, the new coach will turn it around next year, but it's not happening this year. I don't think this line is enough. I'll take Madison to win and cover.

> Herndon @ Robinson (-30.0)

Robinson will clearly win this game, but with a one dimensional offense, I'm not sure it will be a big score. Robo wins, but doesn't cover.

> Jefferson @ Lee (-30.0)

I'll take a pass on this one.

> Lake Braddock (-14.0) @ West Springfield

West Springfield is having a season they'd like to forget. LB wins and covers.

> McLean @ Washington Lee (-20.0)

If W-L can beat Fairfax by over 40 points, they can easily do the same to McLean. Not enough of a spread here. WL wins and covers.

> South Lakes (-16.0) @ Langley

Not enough of a spread here, either. South Lakes likes to run up the score against weaker teams. They'll do the same here. South Lakes wins and covers.

> Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-34.0)

Potomac Falls wins and covers.

> TC Williams @ West Potomac (-15.0)

West Potomac Wins and covers.

> Tuscarora @ Stone Bridge (-7.0)

Stone Bridge wins and covers.

> Woodson (-6.0) @ Mount Vernon

This one is hard. Mt. Vernon has come back to earth, but I think Woodson has as well. Since Mt. Vernon is a home underdog, I'll take Mt. Vernon and the points.

> Wakefield @ Marshall (-1.0)

Marshall wins and therefore covers.

> Yorktown @ Hayfield (-22.0)

Hayfield wins and covers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dont forget a push ()
Date: October 21, 2016 06:09PM

Northern Region Fan,
Just to address your statement- "Marshall wins and therefore covers"
Marshall, according to the aforementioned line, is favored by one point. So, they could win and NOT cover, if they win by just one. That would be a tie, or in gambling parlance, a "push".
"Marshall wins and therefore covers" implies that just by winning, Marshall automatically covers.
Not meaning to come across as a jerk, just wanted to respectfully point that out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 08:09PM

Halftime. Wf 14. Cv 0. Haddock being out coached. Def coordinator for cville is horrible with that zone coverage. Cville of have two scores but one pass under thrown for an interception and another near halftime the rb made a bad adjustment on the ball.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 08:49PM

Back up qb in for cville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 08:55PM

Westfield up 28-0. Cville can't stop the passing attack. Wf dominating game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF fan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 09:28PM

As I've told everybody over and over again Westfield is God's favorite we will always be the best it's in our blood God loves us and all the people too

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Dominancwe ()
Date: October 21, 2016 09:58PM

Do have to face facts - Westfield is the best

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wuck Festfield ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:05PM

Nothing like letting the dixie cuppers still play. Something rotten in that program. And before you get all uppity I am not from Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Well... ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:07PM

Well, if there's any reason why I'm frustrated with CVille's crushing defeat is the damn trolls.

Anyways, I saw the Hay and York game, 42-13. Half was 14-13, quite honestly, Hayfield had like at least two penalties on every drive in the first half and a plethora of mistakes. Despite the score, SL will not tolerate and will capitalize on those mishaps. Albeit, Hayfield has every oppurtunty to win if they stay disciplined. Same can be said for SL minus penalties.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Daniel Carver ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:08PM

Saw Centreville get exposed and the true cry babies on the team started fighting amongst themselves...again Centreville is a joke!!best of luck and stay healthy to all these kids

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield rulez ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:14PM

Westfield is the best in the west and the east, baby!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:16PM

The whole region is a joke this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: how dare you ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:24PM

How dare you question the supremacy of Westfield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: in other action ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:28PM

Hayfield struggled early and only led 14-13 at halftime. Having seen South County last week, hard to imagine how the Hawks kept pace with them.

Also, TC beating West Potomac is a stunner. Would love to know what happened there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Guy ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:44PM

in other action Wrote:
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> Hayfield struggled early and only led 14-13 at
> halftime. Having seen South County last week, hard
> to imagine how the Hawks kept pace with them.
>
> Also, TC beating West Potomac is a stunner. Would
> love to know what happened there.

As one said, a crap ton of penalties from the Oline especially getting at least two calls on every drive the first half. I know people don't really care about injuries for a team like Hayfield, but I noticed that both of their starting guards are out. Anyways, in most games Hay adapts over the course. Against WL they were down 13-0 in the first quarter to defeat them 54-26. Who knows, but just reading that TC>West Po and that Westfield just curb stomped CVille changes up the game EVERYWHERE. Easily one of my favorite seasons so far in terms of being surprised.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Idss ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:49PM

What happen with Centerville?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:50PM

Centreville, what happened to them- they met the mighty Bulldogs that is what happened to them

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cougar Town ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:55PM

Tired of the self righteousness of the Westfield fans on this site. You reap what you sow assholes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 21, 2016 10:58PM

Idss Wrote:
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> What happen with Centerville?

I don't know because the team I saw play earlier in the season did not show up for this game. When anything did not go their way that team simply rolled over and died. No one stepped up and made a play the entire game. No fight. No punchback. Nothing. Very surprising.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cougar Flop ()
Date: October 21, 2016 11:51PM

At least the self righteous bulldog fans don't get banned from their own side lines Cougar Fool!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: puh-leease ()
Date: October 22, 2016 12:06AM

Gullible people. Anyone with a brain can tell that so-called Westfield fan is not a real Westfield fan. He's a classic strawman sockpuppet. Look it up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oakton? Chantilly? Centreville? ()
Date: October 22, 2016 01:12AM

Where were these three teams tonight? None showed up. Same with West Potomac. Just discouraging. Real bad. Rolled over and took it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 01:19AM

Westfield is finally getting healthy (not 100% yet) and boy did they look scary tonight. Westfield should just throw the ball all the time. Having 2 6-4 receivers with elite high school speed and a QB with an arm like Johnson, running the ball as much as they did in the prior weeks was just unacceptable. They took more deep shots and they were successful. Talent was never an issue and you definitely can't blame things on a coach like Simmons, all that held this team back was injuries and now they seem set. Westfield has the talent to beat anyone but it's a matter of which team shows up when. For those of you that weren't in attendance, the score could've been a lot lot worse. If it weren't senior night and if Simmons didn't have class this might've been a 50+ point win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hey Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 01:54AM

You gave up over 500 yards rushing to Stone Bridge in ONE game. Please just shut the f*** up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTF Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 03:28AM

Hey WF Fan - do you wipe Simmons' ass AND caress his dick each night. You should show much less love and respect to coach that looks other way when core of this years team built by the Dixie Cuppers. Something awful going on in WF program ultimately they will reap what they sow......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CV FAN ()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:35AM

How in the hell did shitty ass Robinson almost beat Westfield? Did Westfield turn the ball over a bunch or get some bad breaks? I thought we were going to win out for sure. Now it appears we may lose another one.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:40AM

CV FAN Wrote:
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> How in the hell did shitty ass Robinson almost
> beat Westfield? Did Westfield turn the ball over
> a bunch or get some bad breaks? I thought we were
> going to win out for sure. Now it appears we may
> lose another one.

Any given night. The difference between Westfield and Centreville definetly isn't 35 points, Cville just had a bad game, and same could be said about Westfield last week. I don't know about Centreville but Westfield has been banged up almost all season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTF WTF Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 09:43AM

Simmons prefers to caress his own Dick, with his right hand and the 3 shiny ass state Championship Rings he wears on it...you whiny little Bitch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:06AM

Yes agreed Simmons is the best coach of all time made perfect for us here at Westfield because he is able to focus on winning and let the other distractions go by the way side including whether kids should be thrown off the team or not. It is all about winning.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequent observer of rot ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:18AM

Yep there HAS been a lot of internal hi jinks at Westfield. Program needs to be cleaned up from the inside to ultimately justify the results on the outside.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FdUhx ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:58AM

> CV FAN Wrote:
> How in the hell did shitty ass Robinson almost beat Westfield? Did Westfield turn the ball over a bunch or get some bad breaks? I thought we were going to win out for sure. Now it appears we may lose another one.

Robinson is not a bad team but the lack of a passing game hurts them just like it does every year. WF was missing two key defenders last week and with Robo's strength being the running game where they put lots of guys in front of the ball carrier, that does cause WF some problems (see Stone Bridge). Last night WF had both Petrillo and Free back, and also used Cockrill on the D Line at times. Against a team with a normal running style the WF defense is very hard to beat.

> > Westfield Fan Wrote:
> Any given night. The difference between Westfield
> and Centreville definetly isn't 35 points, Cville
> just had a bad game, and same could be said about
> Westfield last week. I don't know about
> Centreville but Westfield has been banged up
> almost all season.

Hard to argue this point, as the 35 point difference did surprise me. But that is attributed to 4 prominent things: the return of Petrillo and Free, the O-line was pushing the CV D line off the LOS consistently, the fact that the CV pass coverage was very weak coupled with the WF passing game being on track for the first time all year, and CV's three turnovers. Siler actually fumbled twice more, on his 20 the first play of the game and inside his own 10 just prior to Free's INT. He was under pressure all game whereas Johnson was not-and it showed, affecting both teams' offenses significantly but in opposite ways.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequently having your head up ()
Date: October 22, 2016 11:00AM

Whiny little bitches getting beat by mediocre football teams with above average coaching...must be a fix...how about you get your whiny little Sons to man up like Stone Bridge and kick the shit out of an average Football team...ask your wife for your Balls back sissy Boy...and you know...your "Sons" can now play girls sports..if they can hang!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Anyone sane here? ()
Date: October 22, 2016 01:33PM

Do you know what is nice? Guys like Steve K, Northern region fan, Frequent watcher of football, et al putting in their opinion, their take on things, without cursing, calling names, and in general acting the fool. Sure would be nice to lose to imbeciles on here, wouldn't it?

Last night.....

Annandale @ South County (-31.0) SC by 41
Briar Woods (-13.0) @ Chantilly BW by 39 (!)
Broad Run (-7.0) @ Oakton BR by 28
Centreville (-1.0) @ Westfield (Wildcats must have forgotten they had a game!
Edison @ Falls Church (-25.0) FC by 49
Fairfax @ Madison (-28.0) Madison by 60
Herndon @ Robinson (-30.0) Robinson by 50
Jefferson @ Lee (-30.0) Lee by 29
Lake Braddock (-14.0) @ West Springfield LB by 27
McLean @ Washington Lee (-20.0) W/L by 36
South Lakes (-16.0) @ Langley SL by 28
Stuart @ Potomac Falls (-34.0) PF by 43
TC Williams @ West Potomac (-15.0) (see above - C-Ville for West Po!)
Tuscarora @ Stone Bridge (-7.0) SB by 37 !!!
Woodson (-6.0) @ Mount Vernon Mount Vernon down at 1/2 - comes back!
Wakefield @ Marshall (-1.0) Marshall by 32
Yorktown @ Hayfield (-22.0) Hayfield by 29


Some observations....

All of Arlington is horrible.
Loudoun is still very strong.
Fairfax has 5 or 6 teams that can win the region.

Woodgrove, in Purcellville, is only local team with a chance at a state title this year. Hate to say it, as I am a big fan of this area and don't like Richmond or 757, but I just don't see a 5A or 6A state champions coming from anyplace north of Lorton this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: in other action ()
Date: October 22, 2016 01:53PM

The Guy Wrote:
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> in other action Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hayfield struggled early and only led 14-13 at
> > halftime. Having seen South County last week,
> hard
> > to imagine how the Hawks kept pace with them.
> >
> > Also, TC beating West Potomac is a stunner.
> Would
> > love to know what happened there.
>
> As one said, a crap ton of penalties from the
> Oline especially getting at least two calls on
> every drive the first half. I know people don't
> really care about injuries for a team like
> Hayfield, but I noticed that both of their
> starting guards are out. Anyways, in most games
> Hay adapts over the course. Against WL they were
> down 13-0 in the first quarter to defeat them
> 54-26. Who knows, but just reading that TC>West Po
> and that Westfield just curb stomped CVille
> changes up the game EVERYWHERE. Easily one of my
> favorite seasons so far in terms of being
> surprised.

Didn't know that about Hayfield's guards. The refereeing was atrocious, too many flags for crap that had zero effect on the play.

That said, Yorktown sustained multiple drives and even had a TD of their own called back, so it's not like only Hayfield had bad breaks. The Patriots did a good job stopping the run in the first half, neutralizing Cobbs and forcing other guys to beat them.

Keeney is impressive as hell though. I didn't realize he was such a threat on the ground.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of the Wall ()
Date: October 22, 2016 03:51PM

Let me just say this about Hayfield... There is no excuse anywhere on God's green earth for a team that considers itself a contender to be involved in anything close to a contest with Yorktown. I don't care if 1/2 the team is out.
Leads me to believe that Hayfield is a pretender and will drop the upcoming games against anyone with a truly good squad.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Where is Cougar fan? ()
Date: October 22, 2016 03:54PM

How could a 6A school be so void of talent and athleticism? That team stinks, and their alleged Division One duo on the line are counterfeit. I don't know if you can even blame coaching. They just don't have the athletes to compete against anyone with a pulse.

Well, except Robinson! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watching the wall watcher ()
Date: October 22, 2016 04:37PM

Watcher of the Wall Wrote:
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> Let me just say this about Hayfield... There is no
> excuse anywhere on God's green earth for a team
> that considers itself a contender to be involved
> in anything close to a contest with Yorktown. I
> don't care if 1/2 the team is out.
> Leads me to believe that Hayfield is a pretender
> and will drop the upcoming games against anyone
> with a truly good squad.


They look like adapters which isn't bad. In almost all of their games, they slowly progress into dominance. I've seen a lot of their film and it's thruthful. The problem is, is that against better teams that start out at a high level of play can easily be caught down with huge leads that they can only hope to close. I mean, the last worthy game they had was against SoCo and they lost by a footstep.

Anyways, it's quite rash to say "oh, well injuries shouldn't matter" is BS. Any other team that this website sucks off of would subtely imply that an injury may not have caused a loss, but can certainly complicate things. And then again, you can't just throw out the idea that they adjust with a lot efficiency. Maybe the Hawk triumvirate of Liberty is destined for SL, but I would not cut Hay short, and in the playoffs I wouldn't cut Mad short either.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: watching the watcher of the wall ()
Date: October 22, 2016 04:55PM

Well, it is true that they got lucky and Briar Woods, and Briar is almost at .500!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Interesting posts from 12/15 ()
Date: October 22, 2016 05:13PM

Date: December 14, 2015 08:49AM


Where is all this "oakton is one of the top coaching jobs" and "maybe they could save Liberty by joining" coming from? Oakton lost a ton of it's talent base when Fox Mill got redistricted to SL. They are only as competitive as they are as a middling concorde team because they currently have a very good coach.

I was at the SL/Oakton playoff game sitting on the oakton side since there were more seats available there. Talk about a bunch of entitled bitches, parents, players gesturing for a flag after every play and of course the posts to the'15 football thread predicting regional dominance and/or a crushing victory over SL. Face it Oakton, you're heading in the direction of Herndon and that slide will only accelerate if Rowley steps down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Interesting Posts from 12/15 II ()
Date: October 22, 2016 05:14PM

Date: December 14, 2015 08:49AM


Where is all this "oakton is one of the top coaching jobs" and "maybe they could save Liberty by joining" coming from? Oakton lost a ton of it's talent base when Fox Mill got redistricted to SL. They are only as competitive as they are as a middling concorde team because they currently have a very good coach.

I was at the SL/Oakton playoff game sitting on the oakton side since there were more seats available there. Talk about a bunch of entitled bitches, parents, players gesturing for a flag after every play and of course the posts to the'15 football thread predicting regional dominance and/or a crushing victory over SL. Face it Oakton, you're heading in the direction of Herndon and that slide will only accelerate if Rowley steps down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pretty Good insight? ()
Date: October 22, 2016 05:18PM

Westfield- Returns lots of talent and will prob be
> the best team in Concorde again. Don't be
> surprised to see them go to states again.
>
> C'Ville- Will be much improved from last season's
> disappointment, big year for Hackett seeing if he
> can get his program back at their state title
> levels.
>
> Robinson- Can't say I know much about their
> program but they pretty muck are always a tough
> team so I'll rank them 3rd.
>
> Oakton- Loses quite a bit on defense, but returns
> a healthy number of offensive players. Look for
> another 5-5, 6-4 season.
>
> Tilly- That offense will take a big step back w/o
> QB Tamarro and all around stud Sparks. Appears
> that the Chargers are in for a tough season.
>
> Herndon- They'll still blow.

Thanks for posting this. You've inspired me to do the same for Liberty. Here's my way to early predictions for 2016

1. Madison -- They are losing a good bit on their line, but judging by their lower level programs, it looks like they have a lot that can replace them. I think they are still the team to beat.

2. South Lakes -- This team is moving in the right direction. Going in to this season, I thought they were a year away, so that 2016 would be their year. I'm standing by that for this season.

3. Langley -- Places #3, #4, and #5 in Liberty are almost interchangeable, but I'll go with Langley #3. I don't think Langley was as bad in 2015 as their 2015 record indicates. I look for them to bounce back in 2016

4. Hayfield --Figures to take a step back with the loss of their QB and RB

5. Fairfax -- Their 1-9 record for 2015 has to be considered an aberration. They tend to have more depth than most Liberty teams, but the big question mark is how they'll adjust to the new coach. They should be better on offense in 2016 than 2015, but defense is a question mark. There is a lot of talent in the class of 2018 there, so they may be one year away from being a real contender.

6. Yorktown -- I see depth as an issue for them. Although W-L beat them this year, their lower level programs beat W-L, so I think they will edge W-L for sixth place.

7. Washington - Lee -- W-L definitely overachieved this year, and credit to their coaching staff that made the adjustments to allow them turn around a 1-4 start. They are losing a lot, and their lower level programs weren't very successful in 2015.

8. McLean -- Depth is a real issue here (I think they had to cancel the last game of their JV season due to lack of participation). They were 1-9, but unlike Fairfax, a 1-9 record isn't an aberration. I can't see the new Fairfax coaching staff gift-wrapping a win for them like this year's staff did, so unless someone else steps up to the plate, 0-10 is a possibility.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:31PM

What a weird year for NOVA football. How would you rank these teams based on perceived strength? Who am I missing?

Potomac Falls (7-1) has wins versus Broad Run and Briar Woods + has a loss to Tuscarora.
Tuscarora (5-4) has a win against Centreville but a loss to Oakton.
Oakton (2-6) has a win against Robinson (and Tuscarora).
Robinson (4-4) has no big wins but lost to Westfield on the last play of the game.
Centreville (6-2) has wins against Lake Braddock and Broad Run but a close loss to Tuscarora and a big loss to Westfield.
Lake Braddock (7-1) has many lopsided victories but an OT win against West Potomac and a close loss to Centreville.
Broad Run (6-2) defeated Stone Bridge but lost to Centreville and Potomac Falls.
Westfield (6-2) has wins against South County and Centreville but an OT loss to Briar Woods and a big loss to Stone Bridge.
South County (7-1) has close wins against Briar Woods and Hayfield and a close loss to Westfield.
Stone Bridge (6-2) has big wins against Westfield and Tuscarora but close losses to Madison and Broad Run.
West Potomac (6-2) has a win against Briar Woods but close losses to Lake Braddock and TC Williams.
Madison (7-1) has wins versus Stone Bridge and Oakton plus a close loss to South Lakes.
Hayfield (7-1) has a win against Tuscarora and a close loss to South County.
TC Williams (5-4) has wins against Oakton and West Potomac and a close loss to Westfield - but big losses to Stone Bridge, South County and Lake Braddock.
South Lakes (8-0) has a close wins versus Briar Woods and Madison and remains undefeated.
From Prince William County Battlefield (6-2) has a close win against Hylton but lost to Riverbend and North Stafford.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:40PM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> Who am I missing?

Oh yeah, Briar Woods (4-5) a win against Tuscarora + an OT win versus Westfield and close losses to South County, South Lakes, West Potomac.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cj McMuffin ()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:58PM

Hahaha...not a Westfield guy but I love that they rolled Centreville like they did. Shut some junior level shit talkers up pretty quick.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Powerpoints? ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:02PM

Who knows the current PowerPoint rankings?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:39PM

South County (256) 32.00
South Lakes (254) 31.75
Lake Braddock (250) 31.25
Westfield (248) 31.00
Madison (234) 29.25
Centreville (233) 29.13
Hayfield (231) 28.88
West Potomac (221) 27.63
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Battlefield (220) 27.50
T.C. Williams (214) 26.75
Mount Vernon (212) 26.50
Patriot (208) 26.00
Robinson (199) 24.88
Annandale (195) 24.38
W.T. Woodson (191) 23.88
Washington-Lee (190) 23.75
================
Chantilly (189) 23.63
Oakton (187) 23.38
Yorktown (183) 22.88
Langley (169) 21.13
West Springfield (169) 21.13
Stonewall Jackson (186) 20.67
Herndon (161) 20.13
Osbourn (180) 20.00
McLean (151) 18.88
Osbourn Park (145) 18.13
Fairfax (144) 18.00

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 22, 2016 10:42PM

Brooke Point (262) 32.75
Potomac Falls (247) 30.88
Massaponax (244) 30.50
Stone Bridge (241) 30.13
Albemarle (232) 29.00
North Stafford (224) 28.00
Broad Run (223) 27.88
Patrick Henry (Ash) (217) 27.13
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Patrick Henry (Roa) (215) 26.88
Briar Woods (236) 26.22
Tuscarora (231) 25.67
Orange (204) 25.50
Falls Church (199) 24.88
Atlee (184) 23.00
Stafford (182) 22.75
Lee (178) 22.25
================
Potomac (178) 22.25
Stuart (174) 21.75
Marshall (173) 21.63
Mountain View (169) 21.13
Halifax County (174) 19.33
Wakefield (147) 18.38
Edison (144) 18.00
Thomas Jefferson (75) 15.00

These unofficial from poster on VirginiaPreps.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: YvjtJ ()
Date: October 23, 2016 08:39AM

Enough.... Wrote:
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> List of local teams that could beat Westfield this
> year:
>
> Stone Bridge
> Briar Woods
> Broad Run
> Centreville
> Lake Braddock
> South Lakes
> Madison
> Woodbridge
> Potomac Falls
> Tuscarora
>

How'd that Centreville pick work out for you. Their lame asses didn't score a single point....NOT A POINT. Not only was it a shut out, it wasn't even close.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 23, 2016 02:46PM

Very interesting year. Westfield isn't running away with the region like we thought they would. Centreville has been better than expected. Lake Braddock looks goods and SOCO has recovered pretty well from their loss to Westfield. Madison and South Lakes impressed me the most but I wanna see how they perform against the usual powerhouse teams. Hayfield looks decent as well. Anyone know what went wrong with Centreville last game? It might've been the most lopsided Westfield vs Centreville matchup ever, and there have been some really lopsided once in the past (2007 and 2013).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 04:16PM

I will tell you what went wrong with Centreville.....

Westfield is, has been, and always will be superior to Centreville and all the other wannabes in the Northern Region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jCEuK ()
Date: October 23, 2016 04:25PM

Bulldog Booster Wrote:
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> I will tell you what went wrong with
> Centreville.....
>
> Westfield is, has been, and always will be
> superior to Centreville and all the other wannabes
> in the Northern Region.

^^^^
Bitter Centreville troll.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 04:53PM

Who is calling me a Centreville? Who in the hell are you dumbs hit? Westfield is simply better.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jCEuK ()
Date: October 23, 2016 04:55PM

I am sorry dude, thought you were just not from Westfield. Westfield fans act perfectly all the time, we don't act supreme because we are supreme, we don't belittle because when they go low we go high, and are actions speak the truth - we are above questioning. So when someone tries to puncture that I am quick to judge but sorry I mixed up and caused a fellow Westfield perfect fan any trouble.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:07PM

Ok just dont call me a Centreville or Oakton or Robinson or whatever. Good to see other supreme Westfield fans on here.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:20PM

Last 3 posts were from the same person. You are not fooling anyone.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:33PM

I am all knowing I am from Westfield - I figured you out you troll. You must be from some other Concorde district team

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Booster ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:39PM

EFF YOU - stop your trolling. If you are not for Westfield then just get the hell of this board. This site is about football excellence.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield fans ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:49PM

We got some nasty Westfield fans on this board. Lighten up Frances!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: True dat ()
Date: October 23, 2016 05:52PM

Agree with that friend. Westfield has to rub their insecurities in other peoples faces. Grow up!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bunch of dopes ()
Date: October 23, 2016 06:35PM

Between the trolls and the self righteous Westfield fans this site almost unreadable anymore. I am done....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What a loser ()
Date: October 23, 2016 08:03PM

You must be one hell of a loser dude. Wake up people, almost everyone of the last 5-6 posts or so is the same troll. He's infatuated with Westfield and Oscar Smith for some reason. Has been on this thread trolling since the early summer. My only question is how lame is your life that you post under various names, most of which are the names used by geniuine posters who want to talk high school football. I can only assume his goal is to drive away all intellectual conversation about local high school football. Do us all a favor and get another hobby, you're comments are getting old, foolish, and so lame that we all know you're some snot nosed little punk pounding away on your parents laptop. Go away please......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What a loser ()
Date: October 23, 2016 08:06PM

Sorry, more like last 7-8 posts are this kid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what a loser ()
Date: October 23, 2016 08:12PM

I forgot to say I am from Westfield so I am above these lame ass trolls who ruin this site, this sanctuary to Westfield football.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I am glad he is here ()
Date: October 23, 2016 08:31PM

I suspect too that the troll is a whiny ass teen punk but sort of funny how he trolls the holier than thou attitude of the Westfield fans and the 757 dude who thinks that beach teams do not cheat when everyone knows they do. Funny and smart kid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: U see, wut happin was... ()
Date: October 24, 2016 08:19AM

Trolls like those fools make it unattractive for reasonable people who want to have rational discussions and make their best predictions rather than being buried under rows and rows of useless trollish comments.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: agree sorta ()
Date: October 24, 2016 11:10AM

I want the troll(s) gone too so we can get back to football but you all have to admit this site has become very Westfield centric and self congratulatory. All kudos to them but enough is enough.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 24, 2016 01:25PM

Yeah,...they're bending over so far to pat themselves on the back that their head's up their ass.

#WestfieldComeuppance

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: October 24, 2016 02:31PM

I agree, sometimes this thread does get a little too Westfield. I think though the afore mentioned troll/trolls have a good deal to do with that along with some overly excited/proud parents. But then again a program that's been to the last 5 straight 6A North Region Championships will bring that out. Please don't take that as a boast either, it's just that if you're successful, you get hyped, deservedly so or not. I have a feeling though this year will end that streak of consecutive region championship games. That's my glass half full opinion.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 24, 2016 03:03PM

Hey - absolutely NOTHING is stopping any fan of any team from posting and discussing their team or any other team for that matter. I enjoy reading about all programs, players and games - instead of bitching about the Westfield posts why not write something about your team, players, coaches and games????

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL Reference ()
Date: October 24, 2016 08:55PM

STATE RANKINGS
1 South County
2 Braddock
3 Westfield
4 Hampton
5 South Lakes
6 Oscar Smith
7 Woodside
8 Cox
9 Brooke Point
10 Potomac Falls

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ok sc ()
Date: October 24, 2016 09:46PM

South County is the best offense I've seen this year, even though they were playing a weak D (Mount Vernon). Next two weeks will be the big tests though.

Westfield literally has one impressive victory, and it was last week. Beating SC in week 2 before McDaniels was the starter seems like a long time ago.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: special olympics ()
Date: October 24, 2016 10:23PM

McLean and Fairfax face off this week in a battle to see which team sucks ass the least! Admission should be free to watch this struggle of a football game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:11AM

South County is the best offense I've seen this year, even though they were playing a weak D (Mount Vernon). Next two weeks will be the big tests though.

Westfield literally has one impressive victory, and it was last week. Beating SC in week 2 before McDaniels was the starter seems like a long time ago.

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South County's offense may be improved under McDaniels but does he play defense? Remember that Delaney for WF missed 3 FG's in that game. SOCO scored all 13 points in what, the last 4 minutes of the game. Johnson for WF also went 1-14 I think passing the ball. The score may have been close, the game was not. Simmons has finally simplified the playbook for his QB & Cockrill finally got his hands on the ball which is why WF's offense looked so good last Friday night. Petrillo and Free returned from their concussions on the other side which is why the defense played well. In other words WF does what it typically does year in and year out as the playoffs approach, figure out who and what works best for them and go with it. Remember last year when they muddled through the playoffs then made the switch at QB, if that hadn't been done they probably would never have won state, hell, they might not have even made it. Say what you want, Simmons and his staff certainly have proven they know how to get to the post season and advance in his tenure as WF's head coach. May not always be pretty or sit well with their fans but it apparently works....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:18AM

And remember God is on our side too. Westfield is blessed and special.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:18AM

BTW, Westfield didn't really have any impressive victories last regular season, didn't stop them from winning it all. The Stone Bridge game wasn't impressive, starting QB from SB went out in the first quarter. Robinson game was slightly impressive but WF had a number of missed opportunities and maybe a FG or two.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of WF football ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:22AM

And remember God is on our side too. Westfield is blessed and special

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What, do you have an alert anytime there's something on here about WF football. Shouldn't you be paying attention in class right now? Either that or you must be sitting in your parents basement right now taking a break from watching porn on their laptop when you should be looking for a job. What a troll.............

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hddnj ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:24AM

Speaking of SoCo. I see that Salisbury is playing football in Tennessee now. What happened?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Heat ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:38AM

hddnj Wrote:
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> Speaking of SoCo. I see that Salisbury is playing
> football in Tennessee now. What happened?

Couldn't take the heat, so he got out of the kitchen!! He couldn't compete with McDaniel's, so he jumped ship.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty Conf. ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:51AM

Who's gonna win between SL and Hayfield?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher of games ()
Date: October 25, 2016 11:21AM

Liberty Conf. Wrote:
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> Who's gonna win between SL and Hayfield?


Haven't seen South Lakes yet, but if Hayfield plays like they did against Yorktown I expect the Seahawks will win handily.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Watcher Of Field Hockey ()
Date: October 25, 2016 12:00PM

Moving from Hard Round Balls to Soft Oblong, Hayfield will Win this match-up there will be no undefeateds left!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CmHmM ()
Date: October 25, 2016 12:41PM

Heat Wrote:
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> hddnj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Speaking of SoCo. I see that Salisbury is
> playing
> > football in Tennessee now. What happened?
>
> Couldn't take the heat, so he got out of the
> kitchen!! He couldn't compete with McDaniel's, so
> he jumped ship.

I still don't get it - I'm sure he could have found another role on the team. No shame in being outplayed by McDaniel's - just happens to be the best QB playing in NOVA this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Heat 2 ()
Date: October 25, 2016 12:45PM

CmHmM Wrote:
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> Heat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hddnj Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Speaking of SoCo. I see that Salisbury is
> > playing
> > > football in Tennessee now. What happened?
> >
> > Couldn't take the heat, so he got out of the
> > kitchen!! He couldn't compete with McDaniel's,
> so
> > he jumped ship.
>
> I still don't get it - I'm sure he could have
> found another role on the team. No shame in being
> outplayed by McDaniel's - just happens to be the
> best QB playing in NOVA this year.

From what I understand he had plenty of other options when it came to different positions, just didn't want to accept that fact that he had been beaten by a better QB. He was used allover the field last year, and played some QB. Just couldn't handle the success of McDaniel's and took off.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is best ()
Date: October 25, 2016 01:06PM

yeah you loser stop getting online every time even though we can get online anytime and talk about the beauty that is Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTF Westfield ()
Date: October 25, 2016 01:36PM

Westfield is best Wrote:
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> yeah you loser stop getting online every time even
> though we can get online anytime and talk about
> the beauty that is Westfield


Dud, WTF are you saying? Ignorant Punk!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTF Westfield ()
Date: October 25, 2016 02:52PM

These goddamn punks are driving me crazy. All we want to do is take over this site and talk Westfield football all the time but the punk trolls get in our way.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Good Old Rocky TOP ()
Date: October 25, 2016 03:26PM

Playing outside Line-backer for Shelbyville...why JUmp ship your Senior year after committing to Anapolis when as stated he could have played WR/RB/DB unless Spalding's Whiny ass didn't want to share the lime-light,,,Smells fishy if you ask me...Outside LB?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL ()
Date: October 25, 2016 05:41PM

VHSL 6A North Regional Brackets if the playoffs Started this Week

1 South County vs. 16 Washington-Lee

8 West Potomac vs. 12 Patriot

5 J. Madison. vs. 9 Battlefield

4 Westfield. vs. 13 J. Robinson



3 Lake Braddock. vs. 14 Annandale

6 Centreville. vs. 11 Mount Vernon

7 Hatfield. vs. 10 T.C. Williams

2 S. Lakes. vs. 15 Woodson

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Vhslow ()
Date: October 25, 2016 05:49PM

Moron if ifs and buts were Candy and nuts...Lake Braddock or Soco gonna drop like the Hindenburg one of them will lose...week 10 those brackets are Blown Hayfield moving up...S.Lakes moving Down..shuffle the deck week 11

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield 1-16 ()
Date: October 25, 2016 06:04PM

might as well put Westfield in all of those spots as it is a done deal that Coach will have them ready like previous years to succeed in the playoffs, all other teams are toast

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL ()
Date: October 25, 2016 06:34PM

WOW, touchy over simple objective early playoff seeding. So put up brackets which make more sense!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Virginia Top 20 ()
Date: October 25, 2016 06:59PM

1. South County
2. Lake Braddock
3. South Lakes
4. Madison
5. Stone Bridge
6. Broad Run
7. Westfield
8. Potomac Falls
9. Hayfield
10. Woodgrove
11. Centreville
12. West Potomac
13. Robinson
14. Briar Woods
15. Tuscarora
16. Dominion
17. John Champe
18. Loudoun Valley
19. Mount Vernon
20. Falls Church

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Seriously? ()
Date: October 25, 2016 07:46PM

Dude, you must be from Loudoun! Briar Woods sucks. Who did they beat to achieve your #14 ranking? Stone Bridge? # 5? C'mon. Who is their best win?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 25, 2016 07:56PM

Seriously? Wrote:
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> Dude, you must be from Loudoun! Briar Woods sucks.
> Who did they beat to achieve your #14 ranking?
> Stone Bridge? # 5? C'mon. Who is their best win?


Westfield

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Oh.................. ()
Date: October 25, 2016 08:08PM

Both of those schools beat Westfield? Good thing Westfield doesn't have to play any more Loudoun schools! Who do they have left after The Massacre of '16?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:37PM

Oh.................. Wrote:
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> Both of those schools beat Westfield? Good thing
> Westfield doesn't have to play any more Loudoun
> schools! Who do they have left after The Massacre
> of '16?

They play Herndon and Chantilly on the road to wrap up the regular season. Currently South Lakes, Lake Braddock, and South County are higher seeds than them but assuming Westfield beats Herndon and Chantilly, they will finish with at least the 3 seed as either LB or SOCO will fall below them due to the regular season finale. So they will likely be getting at least 2 home games in the playoffs with one of them being a cakewalk. South Lakes will fall below Westfield if they lose to Hayfield but I don't think that it will happen. I see the top 4 being: Lake Braddock, South Lakes, Westfield, and SOCO. Each team has a major flaw. Lake Braddock in my opinion isn't as talented as the other 3, South Lakes lacks playoff experience, Westfield lacks motivation and the ability to stay healthy, and SOCO lacks discipline.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Gameday Watcher here... ()
Date: October 25, 2016 09:51PM

And what Westfield Fan says actually makes some sense.
South Lakes is pretty talented, but will NOT make it to Regional Final.

If math is correct, LB and SC will be # 1 and # 4 seeds, just a matter of who wins. If that is case, they meet again in semi's. WF actually gets better draw as # 3 seed.
Look for Westfield v South County and So Co finally gets monkey off their back!

5A is similarly as difficult to predict. Look for Brooke Point to hold on to top seed there, beating Ponex. Stone Bridge should defeat Potomac Falls but watch their finale against Briar Woods! Broad Run has tough games against Robinson and Tuscarora, but should at least defeat Tusky and claim district. Top 6 teams in 5A can all win region.

4A? Dinwoodie v Woodgrove for state title, and Dinwoodie wins it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent masturbator of football ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:11PM

ERRONEOUS, ERRONEOUS. Westfield will be the first seed, even if the points don't justify. Previous excellence and god given truth and justice will prevail and VHSL will do the right thing and award Westfield its rightful place as #1 seed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL Reference ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:12PM

VHSL REFERENCE
TEAMS MOST LIKELY TO WIN A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2016
Appomattox
Dinwiddie
Westfield
Stone Bridge
Hampton
Riverheads
Oscar Smith

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:29PM

If they win out Westfield is guaranteed atleast the 3rd Seed. They can get the 2nd seed if one of the two following things happen: South Lakes loses to Hayfield or if SOCO loses to West Potomac and beats Lake Braddock. They can get the 1st seed if both of those things happen. I find it odd that a 2 loss team could potentially get the 1st seed this year whereas last year Westfield, which was a 1 loss team got the 3rd seed. What bothers me even more is that South Lakes could be the only 6A team to go undefeated and still not get the 1st seed. What more do you want them to do? They've played as well as anyone and they deserve it, even if they might not be as good as the usual powerhouses. Don't worry South Lakes you return almost everyone next year so you will have a shot at the 1st seed. SOCO, LB, and Westfield will all be losing a lot of talent. SOCOs success next year will be dependent on Spalding, I honestly don't know that much about Lake Braddock football, and Westfield will be dependent on their RB Eugene Asante and their current Freshman QB Noah Kim. It could be a rough year next for Westfield fans!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:37PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> What bothers me even more is that South Lakes could be the only 6A team
> to go undefeated and still not get the 1st seed.
> What more do you want them to do? They've played
> as well as anyone and they deserve it, even if
> they might not be as good as the usual
> powerhouses.

The VHSL Power Point system is not based on straight up win-loss record thank goodness. You really want the only consideration for seeding to be going 10-0?

South Lakes *could* have scheduled a slightly tougher out of conference schedule since you ask what more they could have done. The power point system doesn't play favorites.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Agree/Disagree ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:52PM

South Lakes had their schedule locked in two years ago. Also, they had their non-conference games chosen for them by county athletic director's from Arlington, Loudoun, and Fairfax. Schedule is same as last year. Two year cycles. With that being said, they have had the easiest schedule I have ever seen for a 6A team. It is an embarrassment. Their regular season schedule includes 7 absolute dogs, Briar Woods (under .500), Madison (nice win) and Hayfield ( slightly above average). What luck to have to go through that! You can't underestimate what it means to be able to dominate your opposition week in and week out, not playing anyone worth a damn. You stay healthy, fresh, and build confidence. it is why Stone Bridge tried to stay in conference with TJ, Lee, Edison, etc even after rest of Loudoun 5A powers were lumped together. Look at Falls Church schedule too. They are so mediocre and will get crushed in playoffs by first decent team they face. I mean, seriously, that schedule should make you chuckle.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: October 25, 2016 10:55PM

I rethought my position, no year will ever be a tough year for Westfield. Next year God will sprinkle fairy dust on the team and they will be as good as ever.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 26, 2016 07:02AM

...and we all know what "fairy dust" really is...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:05AM

SOCO, LB, and Westfield will all be losing a lot of talent. SOCOs success next year will be dependent on Spalding, I honestly don't know that much about Lake Braddock football, and Westfield will be dependent on their RB Eugene Asante and their current Freshman QB Noah Kim. It could be a rough year next for Westfield fans!

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Every year Westfield loses talent but seems to do okay the following year, sometimes not as well but better than most. They lost quite a bit last year, Scanlon, Clancy, Aiello, Huling, Pickett, Leo, Monticue, Johnson, Lutz, & Cordova. The year before that it was Gibson, Gray, Scoville, Moore, Brown, Kinney, O'Brien, Elbon, Martinez, Barrow, & Flores. You get my point, every year they lose quality kids that play a major role in their success. But every year they have a new group step in and fill the void. Not to mention the occasional transfer or "new" kid that just moved into the school's boundary. They have a good number of sophomores that will be capable of stepping in as juniors to help patch the holes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A North ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:12AM

Sounds like Westfield is back to full strength now? But aren't they still undersized on both the OL / DL & DB's? The only running game is via their QB, right? So, are they a favorite to win the 6A Region?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: CNxTu ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:14AM

Westfield OL and DL are not "undersized" when they have everyone back. But other than 1 or 2 players they ain't very tough i.e. physical. That more of problem. But no. They aren't the favorite. Who you kidding? South County HAS to be the favorite followed by Lake Braddock. Those 2. Then maybe South Lakes and Madison. I think this is SoCo's year. no one is playig beter than they are right now.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: October 26, 2016 10:09AM

Westfield OL and DL are not "undersized" when they have everyone back. But other than 1 or 2 players they ain't very tough i.e. physical. That more of problem. But no. They aren't the favorite. Who you kidding? South County HAS to be the favorite followed by Lake Braddock. Those 2. Then maybe South Lakes and Madison. I think this is SoCo's year. no one is playig beter than they are right now.

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Yep, Westfield does have size on both lines but only a couple true physical kids, mostly on the O-line. The D-line has size but other than Jewell none of them are that physical. That's why TC, Stone Bridge, Briar Woods, Robinson, & Centreville all had success running the ball. The LB's and secondary for Westfield are average in size to undersized, especially the DB's, so that adds to the susceptibility of their run defense. The real issue is that Westfield's defensive run philosophy has always been for the line to absorb blocks and allow the LB's to make tackles. This years squad the LB's typically have to dodge their own lineman being pushed back into their path to make tackles, not good.

I think it's a toss up between Lake Braddock & SOCO for the favorite, both have their flaws. SOCO's defense and ground game on offense is not quite as solid as last year. For Lake Braddock if you can contain Atkins on the ground, see Centreville game film, you can stop the ground attack, not as dangerous throwing the ball as they've been the past few seasons. Don't know much about South Lakes other than their schedule to date has been a bit soft. Madison was a good test but would have liked to have seen the outcome if both starting RB's for Madison had been able to play. Westfield, as stated above, just not as physical as years past, especially on defense. Their offense is too inconsistent, though it will be interesting to see if Simmons shrinking the playbook on offense helps Johnson and crew. The article in the Post last week prior to Centreville game indicated Simmons thought maybe they put too much on their QB. If that is the case and changes were made, then there might be hope after hanging 35 on the Wildcats, we'll see.

There are a few other solid teams, Madison certainly has the defense, Hayfield has the offense, West Potomac has shown some ability as well. I think this post season will be pretty wide open as to who will take 6A North, unlike in recent years. It's kind of refreshing even though I have my favorite!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent masturbator of WF football ()
Date: October 26, 2016 11:00AM

I indeed have my favorite and stroke to thoughts of Westfield football every night.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Knower of Nothing ()
Date: October 26, 2016 11:40AM

ALL you Need to know, Panoni and/or Poythress will not sleep a wink if Black and Gold show up on their schedule week #2- #3 - #4 of Play-offs, guaranteed! and its beyond a Monkey, that's a full Grown Silver Back those two can't shake! they will be praying for the likes of a hayfield or South Lakes to do their heavy lifting for them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Power Point Creator ()
Date: October 26, 2016 12:54PM

The only way Westfield gets higher than the 4 seed is if one of the top teams loses unexpectedly. They cannot pass South Lakes, Lake Braddock, or South County if they win the games they are expected to. The loser of the Lake Braddock vs. South County game still out points an 8-2 Westfield team. Westfield will only get 2 extra pts for beating Herndon and 8 extra points for beating Chantilly. That won't be enough to catch the two Patriot league teams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dmvfootballer ()
Date: October 26, 2016 02:43PM

Any word on Demetrius Herberey being arrested, heard rumors?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FOOTBALL BONDSMAN ()
Date: October 26, 2016 03:06PM

IT would be Hembry....Demetrius Hembry...Julie says he is just off getting some new INK...He's a good Kid...Stone Bridge had Him arrested for Stealing that Game from their Broke ASS!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: October 26, 2016 03:06PM

dmvfootballer Wrote:
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> Any word on Demetrius Herberey being arrested,
> heard rumors?

Any word on who the hell Demtrius Herberey is and why we should care?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FOOTBALL BONDSMAN ()
Date: October 26, 2016 03:09PM

Herberey is a new line of CLothes being Pimped by JAY-Z, Obama sports it on the Golf COurse....now Demetrius Hembry, well hes the Best Player in the Northern Region across all classifications... and its true, Stone Bridge had a Warrant sworn out against him for trespassing, the only way the could stop him from beating them again....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K? Where are you? ()
Date: October 26, 2016 07:54PM

It is Wednesday evening and you haven't posted your spreads yet!

I am going through withdrawal, buddy...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Madison ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:00PM

Madison guaranteed win vs South Lakes if both injured running backs had played

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What does everyone think? ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:12PM

1. South County
2. Lake Braddock
3. South Lakes
4. Madison
5. Stone Bridge
6. Broad Run
7. Westfield
8. Potomac Falls
9. Hayfield
10. Woodgrove
11. Centreville
12. West Potomac
13. Robinson
14. Briar Woods
15. Tuscarora
16. Dominion
17. John Champe
18. Loudoun Valley
19. Mount Vernon
20. Falls Church


I thought this list was pretty good, although I am someone who does not automatically put a team ahead of another just because they beat them in a close game, say early in the season. You know, like how the Bills beat the Patriots earlier this year. With that, I would have Madison over South Lakes. I know that Stone Bridge has two losses, but they absolutely crushed Westfield. I think they would defeat South Lakes as well. Broad Run would also defeat South Lakes. Not hating on SL, just don't think they are that good, and do agree that Madison wins if either of their top 2 running backs plays in that game. I also think that Centreville is probably better than # 7, # 8, and # 9, but can't argue much after that beat down last week. Broad Run is interesting. They lost early to Potomac Falls and Centreville, and have won 4 in a row. They are legit if they win next two over Robinson and Tuscarora. Hayfield can score for sure, but don't think they can stop any strong offense. Not familiar too much with Woodgrove, Dominion, and Loudoun Valley, although Loudoun teams are tough. Falls Church is product of soft soft schedule, but can't think of any teams that were really left out.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I think WF when I spunk ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:24PM

I think that the list should be

1. Westfield
2. Westfield
3. Westfield
4. Westfield
5. Westfield
6. Westfield
7. Westfield
8. Westfield
9. Westfield
10. Westfield
11. Westfield
12. Westfield
13. Westfield
14. Westfield
15. Westfield
16. Westfield
17. Westfield
18. Westfield
19. Westfield
20. Everyone else

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: How about... ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:25PM

1. Stone Bridge
2. Briar Woods
3. Westfield
4. Centreville

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:27PM

I agree with the other post, Westfield in all of the spots

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kdhPk ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:35PM

How about... Wrote:
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> 1. Stone Bridge
> 2. Briar Woods
> 3. Westfield
> 4. Centreville

Ridiculous. Briar Woods is way overrated. They have a great coach who can get his team to take games seriously. Westfield players just didn't put in the necessary effort and preparation for SB and BW this season - taking Loudoun County teams lightly is not a good idea. On the other hand, SB and BW pumped up playing Westfield like it was their super bowl. Briar Woods coach - who has 3 state championships - was on the radio saying their regular season win over Westfield was the highlight of his coaching career. They came to play and it showed. Westfield dicked around and waited for Centreville to get fired up for a game. Got no problem with ranking Stone Bridge #1. Westfield and Centreville not top 5. South County is the team to beat in 6A.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yups ()
Date: October 26, 2016 08:45PM

What does everyone think? Wrote:
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> 1. South County
> 2. Lake Braddock
> 3. South Lakes
> 4. Madison
> 5. Stone Bridge
> 6. Broad Run
> 7. Westfield
> 8. Potomac Falls
> 9. Hayfield
> 10. Woodgrove
> 11. Centreville
> 12. West Potomac
> 13. Robinson
> 14. Briar Woods
> 15. Tuscarora
> 16. Dominion
> 17. John Champe
> 18. Loudoun Valley
> 19. Mount Vernon
> 20. Falls Church
>
>
> I thought this list was pretty good, although I am
> someone who does not automatically put a team
> ahead of another just because they beat them in a
> close game, say early in the season. You know,
> like how the Bills beat the Patriots earlier this
> year. With that, I would have Madison over South
> Lakes. I know that Stone Bridge has two losses,
> but they absolutely crushed Westfield. I think
> they would defeat South Lakes as well. Broad Run
> would also defeat South Lakes. Not hating on SL,
> just don't think they are that good, and do agree
> that Madison wins if either of their top 2 running
> backs plays in that game. I also think that
> Centreville is probably better than # 7, # 8, and
> # 9, but can't argue much after that beat down
> last week. Broad Run is interesting. They lost
> early to Potomac Falls and Centreville, and have
> won 4 in a row. They are legit if they win next
> two over Robinson and Tuscarora. Hayfield can
> score for sure, but don't think they can stop any
> strong offense. Not familiar too much with
> Woodgrove, Dominion, and Loudoun Valley, although
> Loudoun teams are tough. Falls Church is product
> of soft soft schedule, but can't think of any
> teams that were really left out.

Good list. SoCo #1 until someone proves otherwise. I'd put West Po ahead of Hayfield, just because they have a more physical defense. Centreville too.

People trashing Briar Woods are morons. Not the best team around, but has anyone played a tougher schedule?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:02PM

yups Wrote:
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> What does everyone think? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1. South County
> > 2. Lake Braddock
> > 3. South Lakes
> > 4. Madison
> > 5. Stone Bridge
> > 6. Broad Run
> > 7. Westfield
> > 8. Potomac Falls
> > 9. Hayfield
> > 10. Woodgrove
> > 11. Centreville
> > 12. West Potomac
> > 13. Robinson
> > 14. Briar Woods
> > 15. Tuscarora
> > 16. Dominion
> > 17. John Champe
> > 18. Loudoun Valley
> > 19. Mount Vernon
> > 20. Falls Church
> >
> >
> > I thought this list was pretty good, although I
> am
> > someone who does not automatically put a team
> > ahead of another just because they beat them in
> a
> > close game, say early in the season. You know,
> > like how the Bills beat the Patriots earlier
> this
> > year. With that, I would have Madison over
> South
> > Lakes. I know that Stone Bridge has two losses,
> > but they absolutely crushed Westfield. I think
> > they would defeat South Lakes as well. Broad
> Run
> > would also defeat South Lakes. Not hating on
> SL,
> > just don't think they are that good, and do
> agree
> > that Madison wins if either of their top 2
> running
> > backs plays in that game. I also think that
> > Centreville is probably better than # 7, # 8,
> and
> > # 9, but can't argue much after that beat down
> > last week. Broad Run is interesting. They lost
> > early to Potomac Falls and Centreville, and
> have
> > won 4 in a row. They are legit if they win next
> > two over Robinson and Tuscarora. Hayfield can
> > score for sure, but don't think they can stop
> any
> > strong offense. Not familiar too much with
> > Woodgrove, Dominion, and Loudoun Valley,
> although
> > Loudoun teams are tough. Falls Church is
> product
> > of soft soft schedule, but can't think of any
> > teams that were really left out.
>
> Good list. SoCo #1 until someone proves otherwise.
> I'd put West Po ahead of Hayfield, just because
> they have a more physical defense. Centreville
> too.
>
> People trashing Briar Woods are morons. Not the
> best team around, but has anyone played a tougher
> schedule?

What makes you say that SOCO is #1 until someone proves otherwise? The only teams that have the right to say that are the current region champs (Westfield and Stonebridge) or an undefeated team (South Lakes). I wouldn't be suprised to see SOCO get thrashed again this year. This SOCO-Westfield rivalry reminds me a lot of the Westfield-Chantilly rivalry back in the day before Chantilly football went to shit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: strengthofschedule ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:24PM

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/sos_by_team_real_gy.cfm?GY=2016

95. Madison
101. South Lakes
Attachments:
VHSL 2016 SOS.jpg

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WestfieldSucksCock ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:41PM

All you Westfield fans are fucking fags, no way your sorry ass team wins this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Back To Forum #12 ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:45PM

Northern Virginia Top 20 Wrote:
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> 1. South County
> 2. Lake Braddock
> 3. South Lakes
> 4. Madison
> 5. Stone Bridge
> 6. Broad Run
> 7. Westfield
> 8. Potomac Falls
> 9. Hayfield
> 10. Woodgrove
> 11. Centreville
> 12. West Potomac
> 13. Robinson
> 14. Briar Woods
> 15. Tuscarora
> 16. Dominion
> 17. John Champe
> 18. Loudoun Valley
> 19. Mount Vernon
> 20. Falls Church


Agree with the list except for #20, Falls Church doesn't belong there the teams they've played are trash like Jefferson, Edison, Stuart..
Etc

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yups ()
Date: October 26, 2016 09:54PM

Football Fan Wrote:

>
> What makes you say that SOCO is #1 until someone
> proves otherwise? The only teams that have the
> right to say that are the current region champs
> (Westfield and Stonebridge) or an undefeated team
> (South Lakes). I wouldn't be suprised to see SOCO
> get thrashed again this year. This SOCO-Westfield
> rivalry reminds me a lot of the
> Westfield-Chantilly rivalry back in the day before
> Chantilly football went to shit.


It always comes back to Westfield, christ. In high school football, being last year's region champ means nothing. There's this thing called graduation, and kids don't get caught up in history the way adults and message board clowns do. Westfield has one impressive win, and it was last week. Beating SoCo in week 2 before McDaniels was established isn't terribly convincing at this point.

So far this season I've seen SoCo, West Po, Lake Braddock, Hayfield, Briar Woods, TC and Mount Vernon in person. SoCo had the best offense, Braddock the best defense. I don't see West Po slowing SoCo down enough to win this week. Week 10 between the Rams and Stallions should be the regular season game of the year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: A guy ()
Date: October 26, 2016 10:01PM

yups Wrote:
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> Football Fan Wrote:
>
> >
> > What makes you say that SOCO is #1 until
> someone
> > proves otherwise? The only teams that have the
> > right to say that are the current region champs
> > (Westfield and Stonebridge) or an undefeated
> team
> > (South Lakes). I wouldn't be suprised to see
> SOCO
> > get thrashed again this year. This
> SOCO-Westfield
> > rivalry reminds me a lot of the
> > Westfield-Chantilly rivalry back in the day
> before
> > Chantilly football went to shit.
>
>
> It always comes back to Westfield, christ. In high
> school football, being last year's region champ
> means nothing. There's this thing called
> graduation, and kids don't get caught up in
> history the way adults and message board clowns
> do. Westfield has one impressive win, and it was
> last week. Beating SoCo in week 2 before McDaniels
> was established isn't terribly convincing at this
> point.
>
> So far this season I've seen SoCo, West Po, Lake
> Braddock, Hayfield, Briar Woods, TC and Mount
> Vernon in person. SoCo had the best offense,
> Braddock the best defense. I don't see West Po
> slowing SoCo down enough to win this week. Week 10
> between the Rams and Stallions should be the
> regular season game of the year.

You mean Bruins?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yup im an idiot ()
Date: October 26, 2016 10:02PM

You go right ahead and watch that Rams and Stallions Game smart Guy...I believe everyone else will be watching the Bruins and Stallions...Genius!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yups ()
Date: October 26, 2016 10:16PM

yup im an idiot Wrote:
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> You go right ahead and watch that Rams and
> Stallions Game smart Guy...I believe everyone else
> will be watching the Bruins and
> Stallions...Genius!


You got me good bro!

In other news, Westfield still ain't winning the region this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Jimmy the Geek ()
Date: October 27, 2016 05:06PM

Where are this week's matchups and point spreads?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No need for matches ()
Date: October 27, 2016 05:10PM

Everybody gave up because they know it is all about Westfield anyway.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldyke Booster ()
Date: October 27, 2016 05:31PM

As Westfield chants...."#7#7 WE ARE #7...lets go cuppers"

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WE WANT STEVE, WE WANT STEVE ()
Date: October 27, 2016 08:03PM

Steve 2k!? We need ya buddy! Come back!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kimmy the Freak ()
Date: October 27, 2016 09:52PM

Making the Push

Battlefield v. Stonewall, wishing they had someone to stand Tall..Battlefield by 24.

Chantilly v. Centreville, could Chantillys streak of consecutive 1st round play off wins be in jeopardy...Haddock dresses his Freshmen Team this week since the Varsity hasn't been seen since last Thursday night. Centreville by 21

Fairfax v. McLean all that matters is one of these teams won't lose...I'm betting on the Tie...20-20 everyone gets a trophy!

Hayfield v. South Lakes will the Cream Rise or will the pretenders Show. Hayfield 31 south lakes 23

Jefferson v Wakefield Jefferson kids busy studying for AP tests Wakefield by 17

Langley v Yorktown 2 bad teams Yorktown by 10

Lee v Edison Edison by 13

Mount Vernon v Lake Braddock...Mount Vernon puts a scare in the Bruins..Bruins separate late win by 28

Oakton v Fallschurch a very bad Concorde Team exposes Falls Church Oakton by 20

Robinson v. Broad Run if Hembry plays broad Run by 6 no Hembry Robinson by 10 yes one player worth 16pts

South County v West Potomac West Potomac Gelds the Stallion in a not so upset upset West Potomac by 9

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kimmys gack ()
Date: October 27, 2016 09:59PM

W.T. v. West Springfield west Springfield proves they are legitimately at the bottom of conference W.T. By 10

Westfield v. Herndon Westfield is ready to flirt with a Loss again after looking like a contender last week. Westfield by 11

Annandale v. TC Williams, the Titans are gaining confidence climbing the pairings, looking to pull the ft a first round play off upset. Tax by 10

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: You're pretty ballsy ()
Date: October 28, 2016 05:01AM

Hayfield > SL, and West Po > SOCO? (Hay > SL is probably 50/50 though). I mean, that loss to TCW probably put a big chip on the Wolverines shoulder, but I don't think it's big enough to stop SOCO.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 28, 2016 07:18AM

Chantilly @ Centreville (-25.0)

Fairfax (-1.0) @ McLean
*One school is getting their first win tonight!

Hayfield @ South Lakes (-6.0)
*This will be a very interesting game, South Lakes can win the conference or Hayfield can show they’re the real deal.

TJ @ Wakefield (-34.0)

Langley (-3.0) @ Yorktown

Lee (-20.0) @ Edison

Mount Vernon @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)

Oakton (-7.0) @ Falls Church
*This is actually a really interesting game as Falls Church is good at home. I see Oakton with more in-season tests prevailing though.

Robinson @ Broad Run (-3.0)

South County (-10.0) @ West Potomac

Washington-Lee @ Madison (-40.0)

Woodson (-3.5) @ West Springfield

Westfield (-37.0) @ Herndon

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield rulez ()
Date: October 28, 2016 08:24AM

Heard Coach Simmons is calling up some feeder 7th and 8th graders to play against Herndon.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield FoolZ ()
Date: October 28, 2016 08:59AM

There are NO Feeder 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th graders in the Pipe Line, don't fool yourself. the Glory Days are coming to an end!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: JNDh3 ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:51AM

Westfield FoolZ Wrote:
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> There are NO Feeder 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th graders
> in the Pipe Line, don't fool yourself. the Glory
> Days are coming to an end!

this is true. demographics finally catching up. jv and freshman teams are having crappy seasons also. it's over so westfield haters will be forgetting about westfield in a few years cause they won't be talked about anymore. south county is the new westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: erroneous info ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:16AM

Erroneous, erroneous - Westfield will always be the best as God told me directly.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 28, 2016 11:16AM

...That would be "god"...(little G)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: erroneous again ()
Date: October 28, 2016 12:34PM

No, we at Westfield have a direct line to the big God - capital G

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Pafoney ()
Date: October 28, 2016 12:34PM

South County will never Hold a flame to Westfields Legacy...and I'm a Liberty Guy...lets be honest there is Good and then there is Great..Panoni has wasted a ton of Talent. Many others would have won it by Now. He can't!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Guru ()
Date: October 28, 2016 12:50PM

Westfield FoolZ Wrote:
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> There are NO Feeder 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th graders
> in the Pipe Line, don't fool yourself. the Glory
> Days are coming to an end!


Westfield was scary good last weekend. Heart attack scary good. I pity the fools who get in their way. Kudos to them for letting a couple of teams win so the rest of the region didn't just quit, which is what they were all threatening to do.

Bulldogs Today. Bulldogs Tomorrow. Bulldogs Forever.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RealityCheck ()
Date: October 28, 2016 01:37PM

You guys take this way too seriously for an area/region that couldn't produce a school with a national ranking or honorable mention even if their lives depended on it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RealityCheckCheck ()
Date: October 28, 2016 01:49PM

RealityCheck Wrote:
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> You guys take this way too seriously for an
> area/region that couldn't produce a school with a
> national ranking or honorable mention even if
> their lives depended on it.


And here you are, commenting on it. Obsess much?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not so fast RealityCheck ()
Date: October 28, 2016 01:52PM

You guys take this way too seriously for an area/region that couldn't produce a school with a national ranking or honorable mention even if their lives depended on it.

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Hmmm, guess you weren't paying attention when Westfield was nationally ranked after winning the state championship 12/21/15, rank was #23.

http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/sports/2015/12/21/final-super-25-football-teams/77708996/

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RealityCheck ()
Date: October 28, 2016 01:53PM

Just laughing at the repeated use of words such as "Legacy" and "Talent" in this thread, when referring to the high school football in this area.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: October 28, 2016 02:10PM

Wasn't Centreville after they won states??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Yes ()
Date: October 28, 2016 02:15PM

Yes Cville got as high as 13 in nation

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not so fast RealityCheck ()
Date: October 28, 2016 02:21PM

Just laughing at the repeated use of words such as "Legacy" and "Talent" in this thread, when referring to the high school football in this area.

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Well there is some, see attached article to see where top recruits come from, Virginia ranked 10th.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits


We also know that all recruits don't always live up to the hype. Sports Illustrated ran an article a couple years ago, focus was how overblown recruit rankings can be. They compared the list of the top 10 recruits entering college from high school compared to 4 years later on the top 10 players graduating. Not one single player coming out was on the list, as a matter of fact I didn't recognize the name of any of the kids from the high school list.

The term legacy was merely referring to a local program that has gone 166-39 and won 3 state titles in the 17 years it's existed. Not bad especially since they play at the 6A level which has some decent programs throughout the state.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 28, 2016 04:02PM

JNDh3 Wrote:
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> Westfield FoolZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are NO Feeder 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th
> graders
> > in the Pipe Line, don't fool yourself. the
> Glory
> > Days are coming to an end!
>
> this is true. demographics finally catching up.
> jv and freshman teams are having crappy seasons
> also. it's over so westfield haters will be
> forgetting about westfield in a few years cause
> they won't be talked about anymore. south county
> is the new westfield.

Freshman squad is actually decent considering their star freshman plays JV and Varsity. JV is struggling cause of lack of depth on varsity. There have been years much worse than this as a whole and Westfield has managed to rebound. On top of that they have a great youth program.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 28, 2016 04:22PM

RealityCheck Wrote:
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> You guys take this way too seriously for an
> area/region that couldn't produce a school with a
> national ranking or honorable mention even if
> their lives depended on it.

I'm trying to understand you but I can't. Is your argument that unless you have a nationally ranked program there is no point in supporting it or paying attention to it? Only Top 25 programs are allowed to support their teams? No one is forcing you to read this thread. Or comment on it. And why are you taking our thread so seriously yourself? Why does it bother you so much?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ipdates ()
Date: October 28, 2016 07:26PM

Kenney to Cobbs. 6-0 Hayfield 330 1Q.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ipdates2 ()
Date: October 28, 2016 08:04PM

14-7 hayfield halftime.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wow! ()
Date: October 28, 2016 08:12PM

A stellar performance so far by the hawks. Honestly could've been 28-7 if not and why for two honestly pretty lame callbacks, BUT if Hyfield is the rel deal they come back out, redeem the missing points and add more.

Waiting for the 2nd half, and it's quaint. Losing your first game on homecoming...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 12th ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:00PM

Herndon vs Westfield score anybody?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:01PM

End of 3rd Q Madison 27 W-L 10

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:02PM

12th Wrote:
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> Herndon vs Westfield score anybody?


It was 45-0 Westfield with 6 minutes left in the half. No idea what happen after that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hawks!! ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:10PM

Hayfield 30-14 5 mins left i'm going home lol.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: at 12th ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:11PM

Westfield was up 45-0 at half last i heard.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: also.. ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:13PM

Lake Braddock over MV 57-0. (That was also the score at the half lol)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:51PM

Just leaving the SL-Hayfield game and boy was SL exposed a bit. Hayfield did what they wanted too and the controlled the game much more than the score indicated.
Hayfield will be a threat to anyone in the playoffs. I see SL getting out of the first round but not going much further.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:53PM

James Madison 34 Washington-Lee 17 Final

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No more undefeated ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:55PM

Hawks pull out a win 38-28. Lackluster HOCO dance for SL. I'm surprised no boom on VHSL reference, nevertheless, I'm sure people won't put their bets on the hawks until next week though.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Game over 11 ()
Date: October 28, 2016 09:57PM

WEST PO upsets SOCO

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cville ok ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:00PM

Cville back on track with a 49-21 win over Chantilly

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dual sorta upsets ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:01PM

West Po > SOCO, Hay > SL. I'd take the cake from one of the previous posters and second that Hay was in control, but I have no idea what happened with SoCo.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: there goes the neighborhood ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:05PM

And there goes the neighborhood..shuffle the Deck...Northern Region just got exciting..Lake Braddock South County, Madison vs. Hatfield...next Week...WOW!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yups ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:06PM

What a great season. would have picked SL and SoCo without hesitation. Love the any given Friday feel.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: here kitty kitty ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:07PM

Centreville Back on track ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. GTFOH

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dual sorta upsets ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:08PM

Okay, let's think this out .... SoCo >> TCW, but West Po < TCW, and now West Po > SOCO, but SOCO > Hay, and now Hay > SL, and SL > Broad Run and Broad Run>Tuscarora, now Tuscarora > Cville, but Hay > Tuscarora, but Tuscarora > Briar woods, but briar woods > Westfield, and Westfield >> CVille and SOCO, but Stone Bridge > Westfield, and Stone Bridge < Madison, hut Madison < SL, and LB<CVille.

Well I'll be damned...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:08PM

If the Warhawks beat Hayfield, South Lakes wins Liberty due to head to head loss

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: yups ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:09PM

Cobbs had 16 catches tonight for nearly 250 yards

https://twitter.com/HayfieldFB/status/792181392801161216

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: summary is ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:21PM

Great analysis from above which simply concluded that GODS Dixie Cuppers are #1!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:24PM

So can y'all explain the potential top 4 seedings to me?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Excuse me? ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:30PM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> If the Warhawks beat Hayfield, South Lakes wins
> Liberty due to head to head loss

Wait what? Elaborate...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Liberty District ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:37PM

I know Hayfield Madison and South Lakes have had some impressive wins this season but do they really stand a chance against SOCO WF LB and CVille?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ideas3 ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:45PM

Don't sleep on either Hayfield or TC Williams.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: post ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:47PM

As a Hayfield Alum, I can say this is the best team since either 2009 (Lee beat us in the playoffs with that freak running back) or 2010 (Regional Championship loss to Stone Bridge who had Jon Allen (Bama) & the Stanford QB although i forget his name.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:58PM

Thought they broke ties...may be wrong...otherwise all the "hawks" will share the Liberty title if Madison beats Hayfield...Hayfield wins it's theirs. Madison defense was being shredded by W-L's pass happy offense, saved and undone by turnovers they can't allow vs. Hayfield to win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hmmmmm ()
Date: October 28, 2016 10:58PM

Yes Wrote:
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> Yes Cville got as high as 13 in nation


They actually began 2014 ranked #5.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Sleeper ()
Date: October 28, 2016 11:02PM

Don't sleep on kimmy the Freak...Winner Winner Chicken Dinner..She picked both Hayfield and a West Potomac to win this week...Steve 2 K Who....?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Too bad for Mad ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:20AM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Thought they broke ties...may be wrong...otherwise
> all the "hawks" will share the Liberty title if
> Madison beats Hayfield...Hayfield wins it's
> theirs. Madison defense was being shredded by
> W-L's pass happy offense, saved and undone by
> turnovers they can't allow vs. Hayfield to win.

If that's the case... then by golly Hayfield would eat'em whole. Hayfield's passing game is far superior, and can run the ball efficiently when necessary. Of course I'm sure everyone in the region knows this and usually makes adjustment, and it's a little early to say, but I'ma give it to Hayfield 7/10 games.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:59AM

Chantilly @ Centreville (-25.0)
*Centreville won 49-21.

Fairfax (-1.0) @ McLean
*McLean won 28-20. I saw McLean play and for Fairfax to lose, wow. An 0-10 season which is hard to fathom at a school that size with its facilities and demographics.

Hayfield @ South Lakes (-6.0)
*Hayfield won 38-28, Liberty is rough to me tonight. I am not surprised though, Hayfield can win the conference next week against a Madison, what a game that should be.

TJ @ Wakefield (-34.0)
*Wakefield won 57-6. Jefferson really could lose by close to 100 against a quality opponent. I respect guys that commit to playing football though, kudos to them.

Langley (-3.0) @ Yorktown
*Yorktown won 21-20, 0 for 3 in the Liberty picks tonight, damn.

Lee (-20.0) @ Edison
*Lee won 36-26.

Mount Vernon @ Lake Braddock (-28.0)
*Lake Braddock won 65-0, up 57-0 at halftime. Enjoy the postseason Majors.

Oakton (-7.0) @ Falls Church
*Oakton won 43-36, finally nailed one. Falls Church put up a good fight and continues to have a respectable program.

Robinson @ Broad Run (-3.0)
*Broad Run won 28-7. It pains me to say this, but Loudoun has Fairfax’s number this year. A real down year for the county.

South County (-10.0) @ West Potomac
*West Potomac won 24-21. This one really surprised me. I was about ready to jump on the Stallion bandwagon and pick them for a region run. I really have no idea at this point.

Washington-Lee @ Madison (-40.0)
*Madison won 34-17, W&L gave them a good game. I think with injuries this conference is Hayfield’s to lose next week.

Woodson (-3.5) @ West Springfield
*Woodson won 34-23. I must say I am very surprised West Springfield is a 1 win football team, I did not expect such a big falloff this year.

Westfield (-37.0) @ Herndon
*Westfield won 48-7. Not so much for this score, but I think I am picking the Bulldogs to win the region at this point.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football 7 conf ()
Date: October 29, 2016 08:50AM

I was at SoCo V WP game. In the first half WP wr #5 got open in end zone on deep crosses and scored 3 tds. He is a good player. SoCo seemed to fix coverage at half. SoCo offense was great last night except in the redzone They had almost 500 yds of offense but had several drives stall in Redzone. SoCo uptempo had 98 plays 235 passing 255 rushing per Wash Post. SoCo #25 had over 100 rushing 1 TD and had 55 receiving and 1 score 1 TD. Program shows him as a sophomore That kid is a beast.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Loudoun Guy ()
Date: October 29, 2016 11:56AM

Let's face it... The smaller schools in Loudoun have pretty much owned the bigger Fairfax powerhouses over the past two years. The Fairfax coaches that had to play them are thrilled as hell that they are going away and won't have to worry about them for the next cycle.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Points to Ponder... ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:09PM

Some things to take away from last night...

Falls Church totally exposed, as they couldn't even beat a team in Oakton that basically gave up last week.

Robinson also looks ready to pack it in. No fight at all last night from a once-proud program. They were owned last night by a team they beat just last year.

Hayfield is as good as anyone in the area. However, with the playoffs often comes the elements. Not sure how their passing game looks three or four weeks from now.

Will South County ever win the region? If they don't pull it off this year, don't see them getting by South Lakes, for example, next year.

Nice story in Mt. Vernon was trashed last night. Completely. Don't see a bounce back this time.

Chantilly gave up 49 to Centreville? Oy vey! Have their demographics changed drastically or something? What has happened to these guys?

Lee just might sneak into the 5A playoffs. Unfortunately, low seed means quality opponent in the first round. Still, nice story for those kids.

How long does Thomas Jefferson field a team? I know they don't want to give up, but these kids are not made to play football. They don't come for the sports anymore!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldogs Block ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:23PM

Points to Ponder... Wrote:
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> Some things to take away from last night...
>
> Falls Church totally exposed, as they couldn't
> even beat a team in Oakton that basically gave up
> last week.
>
> Robinson also looks ready to pack it in. No fight
> at all last night from a once-proud program. They
> were owned last night by a team they beat just
> last year.
>
> Hayfield is as good as anyone in the area.
> However, with the playoffs often comes the
> elements. Not sure how their passing game looks
> three or four weeks from now.
>
> Will South County ever win the region? If they
> don't pull it off this year, don't see them
> getting by South Lakes, for example, next year.
>
> Nice story in Mt. Vernon was trashed last night.
> Completely. Don't see a bounce back this time.
>
> Chantilly gave up 49 to Centreville? Oy vey! Have
> their demographics changed drastically or
> something? What has happened to these guys?
>
> Lee just might sneak into the 5A playoffs.
> Unfortunately, low seed means quality opponent in
> the first round. Still, nice story for those
> kids.
>
> How long does Thomas Jefferson field a team? I
> know they don't want to give up, but these kids
> are not made to play football. They don't come for
> the sports anymore!


And don't forget the most important take away....Westfield is the region's powerhouse team. Can anyone even be expected to score against them going forward? I think the consensus answer is, "No, they can't."

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:25PM

Agree, Westfield of course is the best of all time

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Power Points ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:45PM

Anybody got the updated PowerPoints?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Northern Region top 10 ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:48PM

1. Lake Braddock
2. Westfield
3. Hayfield
4. Centreville
5. West Potomac
6. South County
7. South Lakes
8. Robinson
9. TC Williams
10 Madison

This is a very hard season to figure out. Lake Braddock has to be the clear favorite at this point but anyone in that top 6 can win this thing.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quick Question ()
Date: October 29, 2016 12:53PM

What happens in the top 10 if Madison beats Hayfield and SOCO beats Braddock? Would it be 1. Westfield, 2. Centreville, 3. Soco, 4. LB and so on?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Slow your horses ()
Date: October 29, 2016 01:54PM

Quick Question Wrote:
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> What happens in the top 10 if Madison beats
> Hayfield and SOCO beats Braddock? Would it be 1.
> Westfield, 2. Centreville, 3. Soco, 4. LB and so
> on?

If Hay beats Mad, and SOCO beats LB, Westfield and CVille may bump up, but Westfield at this point cannot be #1, and CVille would be lucky to break the top 4. If Hayfield beats Madison, then I'm sure they'll snag #2 due to power points and #1 would be LB if wins is ... but if SOCO wins... then we have another shuffle of the deck. But concord really has no shot of being #1

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VirginiaPrep Forums ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:05PM

Here are the power points of week 9 ...

T.C. Williams/Annandale game Saturday outstanding.

Winner of Lake Braddock/South County game next week will secure #1 spot. Hayfield has inside track to #2 if they beat Madison next week. Those are really the only rank changing games; I suppose towards the bottom YT or W&L might battle it out for the bottom seed if the current bottom ones' games go in their favor.

Lake Braddock (295) 32.78
South County (284) 31.56
South Lakes (284) 31.56
Westfield (283) 31.44
Madison (278) 30.89
Hayfield (277) 30.78
Centreville (274) 30.44
West Potomac (265) 29.44
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T.C. Williams (253) 28.11
Battlefield (251) 27.89
Mount Vernon (239) 26.56
Patriot (238) 26.44
Oakton (230) 25.56
Robinson (226) 25.11
W.T. Woodson (221) 24.56
Annandale (220) 24.44
================
Chantilly (218) 24.22
Washington-Lee (218) 24.22
Yorktown (218) 24.22*
West Springfield (193) 21.44
Langley (191) 21.22
Stonewall Jackson (211) 21.10
Herndon (183) 20.33
Osbourn (183) 20.33
McLean (181) 20.11
Osbourn Park (169) 18.78
Fairfax (164) 18.22

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Virginia Prep Forums... 5A? ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:14PM

Hey VA Prep Forums,

Can you add 5A ranking to the board here? Thanks!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Chance? ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:33PM

Assuming Westfield wins what would need to happen for them to get #2 or #3?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Power Points for 5A? ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:52PM

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone? 5A Power ponts? 5A power points?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:54PM

Points to Ponder... Wrote:
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> Some things to take away from last night...
>
> Falls Church totally exposed, as they couldn't
> even beat a team in Oakton that basically gave up
> last week.

Falls Church was exposed when they lost to Eastern of DC in the opening game. A close loss to Oakton is a good result for Falls Church, even if it's a bad Oakton team. Last year it was 41-7.

> Robinson also looks ready to pack it in. No fight
> at all last night from a once-proud program. They
> were owned last night by a team they beat just
> last year.

Sad, they looked like they had potential at the start of the season. Have to give them credit for a tough non-district schedule.

> Will South County ever win the region? If they
> don't pull it off this year, don't see them
> getting by South Lakes, for example, next year.

They won the region a couple years ago in Division 5. Last year was the first year they were a real contender in 6A.

> Chantilly gave up 49 to Centreville? Oy vey! Have
> their demographics changed drastically or
> something? What has happened to these guys?

Chantilly is mediocre historically, their run of being above average from 2006-2010 was an aberration.

> Lee just might sneak into the 5A playoffs.
> Unfortunately, low seed means quality opponent in
> the first round. Still, nice story for those
> kids.

No surprise that they are doing well in district play.

> How long does Thomas Jefferson field a team? I
> know they don't want to give up, but these kids
> are not made to play football. They don't come for
> the sports anymore!

It looks really bad there. Only takes a couple good players to turn things around in that district though. Just a few years ago they were making the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Perspectively ()
Date: October 29, 2016 02:55PM

Chance? Wrote:
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> Assuming Westfield wins what would need to happen
> for them to get #2 or #3?

If SL loses... I highly doubt that anyways, Westfield beats Chantilly, a team that would probably give them fractions of a point with SL losing to Fairfax and I guess Hayfield losing as well to bring them down. The most plausible ranking for them is #4, but could be #3 if SOCO beats LB.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VirginiaPreps???? ()
Date: October 29, 2016 03:47PM

If anyone is a member, they can go to website and pull 5A ranking and post them.
Please - I am getting deployed and would love to discuss all of the possibilities with my son before shipping out. He plays on a highly ranked 5A team. Please help if you can.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: getting deployed ()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:09PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Thank you... ()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:22PM

Much appreciated. God bless. If anyone finds them today or tomorrow, just something for he and I to point towards. Kills me to miss the playoffs in his senior year. Life is good. All will be well!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: must be a Trump supporter ()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:36PM

sure Mr getting deployed lets cheat and get some paying customer to download on to the free site for you - good ethics

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: You have just.... ()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:42PM

described a traditional Democratic move, you dumb shit. Liberal pukes, please get off of this thread immediately. Shouldn't you be out there trying to steal Trump signs or refute the e-mail fiasco?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: agree1 ()
Date: October 29, 2016 04:46PM

Fuckin liberals. MAGA TRUMP 2016.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jVNMc ()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:16PM

must be a Trump supporter Wrote:
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> sure Mr getting deployed lets cheat and get some
> paying customer to download on to the free site
> for you - good ethics


Dip sh** it is not a paid site if you go to the message boards. But no one has posted 5A power points on Preps yet. VHSL (FREE) will have the official power points release on Tuesday, just like they always do. The guys posting on Preps put up the power points because they like to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: god bless america' ()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:30PM

my god what are all these Trump supporters doing on this site, can't at least this one site just be about football?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: So to drift away from Trump ()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:37PM

Who is Jacob Keeney? Though, I'm a Loudon guy I decided to take a lil' curiosity search of them because of their big win... and beating my local team early in the season (Tuscarora). He has hella stats for everything. How does he look on his own in game, and how do you think he compares to everyone's favorite, McDaniels- Or was it the other one?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: so to drift back to Trump ()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:44PM

Hey to the earlier asshole, do not question Trump - he is going to be our next President and YOU WILL respect him. He will be a supreme leader.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: supreme indeed ()
Date: October 29, 2016 06:48PM

supreme indeed dumbshit - just like the Supreme Leader of North Korea

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Log In 12 ()
Date: October 29, 2016 07:44PM

So what teams do y'all think are gonna make the playoffs

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Trump says ()
Date: October 29, 2016 07:55PM

Trump says it does not matter as Westfield will win it all again

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Qquestion ()
Date: October 29, 2016 08:18PM

Log In 12 Wrote:
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> So what teams do y'all think are gonna make the
> playoffs


No specific order: SOCO, West Po, Hayfield, Westfield, Centreville, South Lakes, Madison, Lake Braddock, Battlefield, TC Williams, Mt Vernon, Robinson, Patriot, Oakton, and possibly between Yorktown and Washington Lee.

Wasn't rocket science, the first 12 are pretty damn obvious.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference stuff ()
Date: October 29, 2016 09:26PM

6A north conference rankings and top contenders:

#1 Patriot - Playoff Points ~ 200 / 7 TEAMS

TOP 3
a. Lake Braddock (8-1) @SEED 1
b. South County (7-2) @SEED 2
c. West Potomac (7-2) @SEED 8


#2 Concorde - Playoff Points ~ 112 / 4 TEAMS

TOP 3
a. Westfield (7-2) @SEED 4
b. Centreville (7-2) @SEED 7
c. James Robinson (4-4) @SEED 14

#3 Liberty - Playoff Points ~ 94 / 3 TEAMS

TOP 3
a. Hayfield (8-1) @SEED 6
b. South Lakes (8-1) @SEED 2
c. James Madison (8-1) @SEED 5

#4 Cardinal - Playoff Points ~ 55 / 2 TEAMS

TOP 3
a. Battlefield (7-2) @SEED 10
b. Patriot (6-3) @SEED 12
c. Stonewall Jackson (2-7) @SEED -5

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TOP 3

OUT OF CONFERENCE W/L
1. Liberty - 8/1
2. Patriot - 7/2
3. Concorde - 10/5

TOTAL W/L
1. Liberty - 24/3
2. Patriot - 22/5
3. Concorde - 18/8

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference Reality ()
Date: October 29, 2016 09:42PM

Look at who the Concorde has had to play in the non-conference. I'm not honing to say the Concorde is better, but their non-conference schedules are much more challenging than most of the others. All three of those Concorde teams played two really good Loudoun County teams and a top team from the Patriot. That's at least three tough non-conference games for each.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference stuff ()
Date: October 29, 2016 10:14PM

Conference Reality Wrote:
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> Look at who the Concorde has had to play in the
> non-conference. I'm not honing to say the
> Concorde is better, but their non-conference
> schedules are much more challenging than most of
> the others. All three of those Concorde teams
> played two really good Loudoun County teams and a
> top team from the Patriot. That's at least three
> tough non-conference games for each.


That is true, but Madison > Stone Bridge, South Lakes > Briar Woods, and Hayfield > Tuscarora; kind of throws out that excuse that "LoCo is tough" (or maybe Lib trio is better). And in cessation, I'm not saying Liberty is better, but besides Centreville and Westfield who are clearly both not in pristine condition who else in Concorde is good enough to beat any powerhouse team? Robinson? Hyped died with their performance, Oakton? Well, they seem like a good national district team...

Keep in mind that Concorde is the 2nd smallest conference in 6A north with only 6 teams while Patriot and Liberty have 8. So they will have more, and this is by a simple W/L, not "whose better by and so because of close scores or shutouts". I mean shoot, having tough schedules before never really slowed'em down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conference ()
Date: October 29, 2016 10:21PM

Conference Reality Wrote:
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> Look at who the Concorde has had to play in the
> non-conference. I'm not honing to say the
> Concorde is better, but their non-conference
> schedules are much more challenging than most of
> the others. All three of those Concorde teams
> played two really good Loudoun County teams and a
> top team from the Patriot. That's at least three
> tough non-conference games for each

I honestly feel bad for LoCo now that I think about it. Tuscarora hasn't made it in VHSL TOP 40 since beating Centreville, who comfortably sits at #10. And while Stone Bridge is at 18, Westfield sits like a battered queen in #3.

And Hayfield and West Po (once they update it) might finally break 15...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 29, 2016 11:46PM

Conference Wrote:
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> Conference Reality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Look at who the Concorde has had to play in the
> > non-conference. I'm not honing to say the
> > Concorde is better, but their non-conference
> > schedules are much more challenging than most
> of
> > the others. All three of those Concorde teams
> > played two really good Loudoun County teams and
> a
> > top team from the Patriot. That's at least
> three
> > tough non-conference games for each
>
> I honestly feel bad for LoCo now that I think
> about it. Tuscarora hasn't made it in VHSL TOP 40
> since beating Centreville, who comfortably sits at
> #10. And while Stone Bridge is at 18, Westfield
> sits like a battered queen in #3.
>
> And Hayfield and West Po (once they update it)
> might finally break 15...

I understand where you are coming from and you have a really good point. However the rankings are in part based on how tough the conferences are and that's really hard to determine. Since Concorde has pretty much owned the region for the last 15 years their teams will receive the benefit of the doubt. That might change one day but probably not anytime soon as Westfield and Centreville have been very consistent programs for the last 15ish years. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that they are gonna be contenders year in and year out but they are both teams that atleast for the foreseeable future look like they can challenge anyone.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: strengthofschedule ()
Date: October 30, 2016 10:15AM

As others have pointed out VHSL Reference rankings are based solely on computer algorithms and have nothing to do with perceived strength of conferences. In fact, if you look at VHSL Reference Conference rankings their formulas rank the Potomac Conference 14 as #1 in the state. The rankings are not biased by personal opinions. Also, the ratings have not been updated to reflect the games this weekend. Loudoun teams are being ranked appropriately for VHSL Reference. It's not official anyway - just a popular ratings index.
Attachments:
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 30, 2016 10:56AM

Upset? Wrote:
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> My sleeper pick this week will be Chantilly with a
> win over Briar Woods. IF chantilly can shut down
> maffe. The kids damn good. Fits perfectly into
> their system. However, you have got to love Corey
> Thomas and his refusal to quit. The kid bringing s
> it every damn week and toasted Oaktons secondary
> last week. He has got to love how people always
> choose other players over him.

I was at the Chantilly-Centreville game this weekend and I thought Corey Thomas was the best player on the field. Showed strength and speed and good technique. Centreville held him in check at times but he made a few good plays and was faster than I thought outrunning the CVILLe backfield a few times. I think he finished with about 7 receptions and 2 TDs.
http://www.hudl.com/v/uCWhX

Isaiah Culver of Centreville also had a nice game including another spectacular diving catch at the goal line. Check it at 0:42
http://www.hudl.com/v/u8ygz

Chantilly only dressed 39 for this game. Wow. A school with over 2700 kids.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VAPreps Forums ()
Date: October 30, 2016 11:08AM

Virginia Prep Forums... 5A? Wrote:
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> Hey VA Prep Forums,
>
> Can you add 5A ranking to the board here? Thanks!


Brooke Point (298) 33.11
Massaponax (287) 31.89
Stone Bridge (285) 31.67
Potomac Falls (272) 30.22
Albemarle (267) 29.67
Broad Run (266) 29.56
Patrick Henry (Roa) (255) 28.33
North Stafford (247) 27.44
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Patrick Henry (Ash) (243) 27.00
Briar Woods (242) 26.89
Tuscarora (236) 26.22
Orange (229) 25.44
Atlee (227) 25.22
Falls Church (222) 24.67
Marshall (211) 23.44
Potomac (204) 22.67
=============
Lee (203) 22.56
Mountain View (203) 22.56
Stafford (200) 22.22
Stuart (193) 21.44
Halifax County (196) 19.60
Wakefield (174) 19.33
Edison (164) 18.22
Thomas Jefferson (90) 15.00

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent lobbier ()
Date: October 30, 2016 11:25AM

Corey if you lobbied Lalli as hard as you lobbied this board he might fight a little harder for you..not likely however I will agree you liked pretty good running through a porous Secondary.

And as far as Isiah is concerned...he should take your entire Team out to Dinner Corey, you guys made an undersized,better than average player look like a superstar...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 30, 2016 11:33AM

Sorry to offend lobbier - just making an observation - if you don't agree don't take it out on the player - this is the first time I have ever commented on Thomas.

And Culver has done it before - almost identical play against LB. C'mon - those are some nice catches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMDtO8uEq8

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: October 30, 2016 11:58AM

Qquestion Wrote:
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> Log In 12 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So what teams do y'all think are gonna make the
> > playoffs
>
>
> No specific order: SOCO, West Po, Hayfield,
> Westfield, Centreville, South Lakes, Madison, Lake
> Braddock, Battlefield, TC Williams, Mt Vernon,
> Robinson, Patriot, Oakton, and possibly between
> Yorktown and Washington Lee.
>
> Wasn't rocket science, the first 12 are pretty
> damn obvious.

There's no guesswork involved, VHSL publishes weekly rankings.

http://www.vhsl.org/athletics.football.fb-2016-weekly-ratings-top-20-rankings

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: October 30, 2016 12:34PM

VirginiaPrep Forums Wrote:
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> Here are the power points of week 9 ...
>
> T.C. Williams/Annandale game Saturday
> outstanding.
>
> Winner of Lake Braddock/South County game next
> week will secure #1 spot. Hayfield has inside
> track to #2 if they beat Madison next week. Those
> are really the only rank changing games; I suppose
> towards the bottom YT or W&L might battle it out
> for the bottom seed if the current bottom ones'
> games go in their favor.
>
> Lake Braddock (295) 32.78
> South County (284) 31.56
> South Lakes (284) 31.56
> Westfield (283) 31.44
> Madison (278) 30.89
> Hayfield (277) 30.78
> Centreville (274) 30.44
> West Potomac (265) 29.44
> ----
> T.C. Williams (253) 28.11
> Battlefield (251) 27.89
> Mount Vernon (239) 26.56
> Patriot (238) 26.44
> Oakton (230) 25.56
> Robinson (226) 25.11
> W.T. Woodson (221) 24.56
> Annandale (220) 24.44
> ================
> Chantilly (218) 24.22
> Washington-Lee (218) 24.22
> Yorktown (218) 24.22*
> West Springfield (193) 21.44
> Langley (191) 21.22
> Stonewall Jackson (211) 21.10
> Herndon (183) 20.33
> Osbourn (183) 20.33
> McLean (181) 20.11
> Osbourn Park (169) 18.78
> Fairfax (164) 18.22

I went to the VA preps site, and this looks like it was updated to give Yorktown one additional point to put then at 219 and 17th place. It also looks like it reflects the results of the Annandale/TCW game on Saturday.

Regarding the bubble playoff teams, it looks like Robo, and everyone above Robo in the standings are in, but with seeding TBD. It also looks like West Springfield, and everyone below West Springfield is eliminated. That means the bubble teams are Woodson (playing TCW this week) Annandale (playing West Springfield) Chantilly (playing Westfield) and W-L and Yorktown, who are playing each other. I would expect all bubble teams to be underdogs in their games this weekend, with the possible exception of Annandale, but even there, I have trouble believing that West Springfield is as bad as their record. Therefore, much like last year, it looks like WL v. Yorktown is an elimination game; the loser is out. However, both teams are outside, so the winner isn't guaranteed a spot. If two of Chantilly, Woodson, and Annandale win, even the winner of WL/Yorktown is eliminated.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Rebel Fan ()
Date: October 30, 2016 01:23PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> Fairfax (-1.0) @ McLean
> *McLean won 28-20. I saw McLean play and for
> Fairfax to lose, wow. An 0-10 season which is
> hard to fathom at a school that size with its
> facilities and demographics.
>

Wow is right. It definitely has been a long and painful season for Fairfax.

I was at the game on Friday. For two winless teams, it was an entertaining game to watch if you were totally neutral and were just looking for an exciting football game to watch. I'll offer up a summary and some observations. I would point out that McLean didn't take a lead until 1 07 left in the fourth quarter.

Both teams traded possessions in the first quarter. McLean mounted a drive late in the first quarter that ended in a missed field goal. On Fairfax's ensuing possession, Fairfax got their first touchdown on an 83 yard QB scramble on 3rd and 13. In the second quarter, after a trade of punts, Fairfax took over at their 35 and mounted a 65 yard TD drive to go up 14-0 with about 3 minutes left in the second quarter. At that point, Fairfax gave up an 80 yard TD drive to McLean. Fairfax gave up several big plays on that drive. Choking late in the second quarter has been a big problem for Fairfax this season. Halftime score: Fairfax 14, McLean 7.

McLean got the ball to start the second half, and they mounted a TD drive that took bout 5 minutes. They tied the score at 14 with 7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Fairfax was three and out on the next possession. On Mclean's next possession, they threw an inception that Fairfax returned to the McLean 25. Fairfax scored on a 13 yard QB scramble, but bobbled the snap on the Extra point. Score Fairfax 20, McLean 14. McLean was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct on the TD, which meant Fairfax kicked off from the McLean 45. Despite this, Fairfax passed on an on-side kick, kicked it deep. McLean punted after getting one first down. Fairfax's next drive ended with an interception in the endzone at the end of the third quarter.

McLean went three and out on their first possession of the 4th quarter. On that possession, Fairfax dropped an interception. Fairfax took over on their 36, drove to the Mclean 14, where the drive stalled. Fairfax attempted a field goal, which was blocked. The ball rolled to the one yard line. It looked like Mclean touched the ball, which made it live. They didn't lose possession, but because of that, they took over on the 1, rather than the 20. At this point, three minutes were left in the game. McLean mounted a 99 yard TD drive to score a TD with 1 07 left to go up 21-20. Fairfax took over on the ensuing kickoff. The first play from scrimmage was a gadget play that took Fairfax down to the McLean 19. The drive stalled at the McLean 10, and on 4th and one, with 17 seconds left and as I recall, one time out, Fairfax sent in the FG unit. The FG attempt was blocked and ran back by Mclean for their final TD.

Although the final TD drive was impressive, there were two officiating mistakes that helped McLean on that final drive. At about 1 30 left, McLean had 3rd and 8 on the Fairfax 42. Mclean completed a pass into the left flat at about the first down marker. The Mclean receiver slipped two tackles, but after the second tackle was slipped, lost possession of the ball. He ran out of bounds, and came back in at the Fairfax 28 to recover his own fumble, and further advance the ball to about the 20. There should have been a 15 yard penalty for illegal touching called at that point. On the next play, there was a highly questionable pass interference call against Fairfax's defense, that gave McLean first and goal. Even with those officiating mistakes, Fairfax didn't have to get to this point if they played better defense on that drive. On the first play, with McLean at the one, they played a three man defensive front, with the LBs and secondary in soft coverage. As a result, there was no contain on the left side, and the QB scrambled 13 yards for a first down. Fairfax should have brought pressure. They had decent pressure on McLean's O line for much of a night, and a safety scored in that situation would have iced the game.

I do have one additional observation. McLean's students should be ashamed of themselves. After the game, they stormed the field, and thereby prevented the post game handshake. Fairfax waited for about 5 minutes to see if the students would clear the field to allow the players to do the right thing. After it was clear that wouldn't happened, the Fairfax team left. McLean is one of the richest suburbs in the DC area, but I guess no amount of money can buy you class.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Curious 22 ()
Date: October 30, 2016 03:25PM

Know what's crazy is that every team in the Patriot district will make the playoffs this year. Thoughts?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Look.... ()
Date: October 30, 2016 03:46PM

Curious 22 Wrote:
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> Know what's crazy is that every team in the
> Patriot district will make the playoffs this year.
> Thoughts?

We know that West Springfield has been a major dissapointment, but they're in Patriot as well... anyways, not a surprise for me at least. It's been like this quite recently (swapping out Mt Vernon with West Springfield though).

And now that you talk about that, I would say it sucks for the hawk Liberty triumvirate to be in such a weak conference... I suppose it throws them off a little bit once playoffs begin. I mean, they all do play each other in the last few weeks though.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: who gives a shit ()
Date: October 30, 2016 03:50PM

Why you all talking about these other poser teams - it is all about Westfield anyway so who cares about the others????????

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: If that's the case ()
Date: October 30, 2016 03:51PM

Look.... Wrote:
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> Curious 22 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Know what's crazy is that every team in the
> > Patriot district will make the playoffs this
> year.
> > Thoughts?
>
> We know that West Springfield has been a major
> dissapointment, but they're in Patriot as well...
> anyways, not a surprise for me at least. It's been
> like this quite recently (swapping out Mt Vernon
> with West Springfield though).
>
> And now that you talk about that, I would say it
> sucks for the hawk Liberty triumvirate to be in
> such a weak conference... I suppose it throws them
> off a little bit once playoffs begin. I mean, they
> all do play each other in the last few weeks
> though.

Imagine what it's like for Battlefield.... shittiest of the shit teams in a midget conference that combined record is 14 of 28... Take out Battle field alone and it's 7 of 26

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: October 30, 2016 04:41PM

Curious 22 Wrote:
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> Know what's crazy is that every team in the
> Patriot district will make the playoffs this year.
> Thoughts?


Not true. It looks like West Springfield is too far back in the standings to catch up. To get seven out of eight, both Annandale and Woodson have to win on Friday, and hope that Chantilly doesn't win. They also have to hope that the WL - Yorktown winner doesn't leap over them in points. Woodson would get a lot of points by beating TCW on Friday, but Annandale not so much with a win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 30, 2016 05:06PM

So this weekend we have Hayfield @ Madison and South County @ Lake Braddock. Debating which game to attend. Which one is going to be the better game? Or maybe even Briar Woods @ Stone Bridge.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: October 30, 2016 06:25PM

Go to The Battle of Chantilly. One of the most heated rivalries in the area. The games aren't that good anymore tho. So if you want a great atmosphere go to WF-Tilly. If you want a good game you can't go wrong with either of those 3. Speaking of which, what happen to Chantilly?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: October 30, 2016 08:46PM

WF-CH has historically been a good game true. But I have seen both teams play already this year and I like to keep mixing it up with new teams every weekend. Hayfield and Lake Braddock are really the only top teams I haven't seen in person yet so that is what is making it difficult.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: But y tho ()
Date: October 30, 2016 09:01PM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> WF-CH has historically been a good game true. But
> I have seen both teams play already this year and
> I like to keep mixing it up with new teams every
> weekend. Hayfield and Lake Braddock are really
> the only top teams I haven't seen in person yet so
> that is what is making it difficult.

Why do you wait to see these two teams so late?!?! I'm sure there's a reason...

Anyways, LB and SOCO has been intense due to their rivalry and conference standings. Same can't really be said of Mad and Hay being "rivals", nonetheless, I'm for sure checking out the SOCO LB game, I saw Hay last week, and I admit I was impressed with their offensive talent and defensive improvement. Hell, the first game I saw of Hay was SOCO and Hay.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Best Local Game? ()
Date: October 31, 2016 03:09AM

Then ride to Leesburg and get a look at the number one player (not prospect... I said player!) in the state with two of the best lineman in the region as they seek to win their district championship in the highest ranked district in the state.

They play at the team that beat them last year for the district championship 43-42 with probably the best coach in the state. The hosts are 24-5 during the last three regular seasons and have an all-region lineman of their own.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: best in state ()
Date: October 31, 2016 06:55AM

Hembry is top 3 in state..definitely best in Region Tuskys Coach is a Top 3 candidate also..Coaching definitely key in Centreville Cictory!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hawk4life ()
Date: October 31, 2016 08:06AM

Speaking of Coaching,

I have been impressed with the new coaches at TC and Mt. Vernon

Didnt expect much from either - I know that neither will make it far in playoffs, but to improve this quick is impressive - the new district with Annandale, Hayfield, Mt. Vernon, TC, and West Po will be interesting

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: October 31, 2016 09:37AM

Then ride to Leesburg and get a look at the number one player (not prospect... I said player!) in the state with two of the best lineman in the region as they seek to win their district championship in the highest ranked district in the state.

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Well, if you go by Rivals, they list the top 45 players in Virginia, Hembry is not on it. I take those listings tongue in cheek, since there is a player ranked 45th that attends a rival school that I think is not as talented as Hembry. Look I get it, you love the kid and that's great, but he's definitely not the best player in the state. That title goes to Khalan Laborn of Bishop Sullivan, ranked #1 in Virginia and #41 in the nation. That's why he's going to FSU, 1 out of 24 or so big-time programs who sought out his athletic ability.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bishop Sullivan ()
Date: October 31, 2016 09:51AM

Oh yeah Bishop Sullivan, where all the Ocean Lakes cheaters went because of all the public school violations.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait Wait Wait a Minute ()
Date: October 31, 2016 11:32AM

Rivals...hmmm lets see, so if you don't PIMP your KID out and spend countless dollars at camps, your athlete is not good....Hembry does not need a list to be Good. He is the Top Player in the Northern Region and one of the Best in the State...Take Rivals and Wipe your, well lets just say, There are Plenty of J.J. Watts and Clay Mathews out there, Hembry a punishing Runner, who is even more physical on the defensive side of the Ball is the Real Deal and will probably give Florida State an Ass-Whooping one day...count on it someone is getting a phenomenal player at a bargain!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: October 31, 2016 01:26PM

Here are the rankings going into the final week.

1. Lake Braddock (32.78)
2. South Lakes (31.56)
3. South County (31.56)
4. Westfield (31.44)
5. Madison (30.89)
6. Hayfield (30.78)
7. Centreville (30.44)
8. West Potomac (29.44)
9. TCW (28.11)
10. Battlefield (27.89)
11. Mount Vernon (26.56)
12. Patriot (26.44)
13. Oakton (25.56)
14. Robinson (25.11)
15. Woodson (24.56)
16. Annandale (24.44)
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17. Yorktown (24.44)
18. Chantilly (24.22)
19. W-L (24.22)
20. West Springfield (21.44)


As you can see, a lot of movement can still happen. I think Oakton and probably Robinson stay in. Chantilly needs Woodson and Annandale to lose, but at the same time if they win it boosts Woodson.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: XPS Viewer ()
Date: October 31, 2016 01:42PM

GAU Wrote:
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> Here are the rankings going into the final week.
>
> 1. Lake Braddock (32.78)
> 2. South Lakes (31.56)
> 3. South County (31.56)
> 4. Westfield (31.44)
> 5. Madison (30.89)
> 6. Hayfield (30.78)
> 7. Centreville (30.44)
> 8. West Potomac (29.44)
> 9. TCW (28.11)
> 10. Battlefield (27.89)
> 11. Mount Vernon (26.56)
> 12. Patriot (26.44)
> 13. Oakton (25.56)
> 14. Robinson (25.11)
> 15. Woodson (24.56)
> 16. Annandale (24.44)
> -------------
> 17. Yorktown (24.44)
> 18. Chantilly (24.22)
> 19. W-L (24.22)
> 20. West Springfield (21.44)
>
>
> As you can see, a lot of movement can still
> happen. I think Oakton and probably Robinson stay
> in. Chantilly needs Woodson and Annandale to
> lose, but at the same time if they win it boosts
> Woodson.

Both Oakton, Robinson are in for sure but there also gonna be the first one's out

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: October 31, 2016 02:01PM

Rivals...hmmm lets see, so if you don't PIMP your KID out and spend countless dollars at camps, your athlete is not good....Hembry does not need a list to be Good. He is the Top Player in the Northern Region and one of the Best in the State...Take Rivals and Wipe your, well lets just say, There are Plenty of J.J. Watts and Clay Mathews out there, Hembry a punishing Runner, who is even more physical on the defensive side of the Ball is the Real Deal and will probably give Florida State an Ass-Whooping one day...count on it someone is getting a phenomenal player at a bargain!

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Okay tough guy, but answer me this, where's Hembry going to play in college?!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: October 31, 2016 02:10PM

Give Florida State an ass whooping, that's good, and you're basing that off his performance over the "quality" defenses he's faced this year? Stone Bridge is about the only legitimate D he faced and he had 92 yards on 27 rushing attempts, zero rushing TD's. Centreville, who is not a juggernaut on defense by any means gave up 133 yards on 27 attempts but again, zero rushing TD's. I've got news for you, nobody from either of these teams nor anyone he's faced is going to FSU let alone anybody close in comparison!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait Wait Wait ()
Date: October 31, 2016 02:54PM

Hembry Ripped the Heart out of Stonebridge, will end up with over 2,000 yards rushing, 20+ touchdowns, 8+ interceptions, and will go to college for FREE!

Zero Rushing TD's How about 1- TD catch? and How about that interception with the 50 yard return to the 2 yard line as time expired, or that 65 yard punt return for a TD that was Called Back...Relax Mickey you wont have to play him anymore after this year!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wait 2 minutes ()
Date: October 31, 2016 02:58PM

Im actually PRetty Tough...and Im not even a GUY so don't push it. Hembry will make his decision no worries.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: October 31, 2016 04:18PM

Hembry Ripped the Heart out of Stonebridge, will end up with over 2,000 yards rushing, 20+ touchdowns, 8+ interceptions, and will go to college for FREE!

Zero Rushing TD's How about 1- TD catch? and How about that interception with the 50 yard return to the 2 yard line as time expired, or that 65 yard punt return for a TD that was Called Back...Relax Mickey you wont have to play him anymore after this year!

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Im actually PRetty Tough...and Im not even a GUY so don't push it. Hembry will make his decision no worries.

_________________________________________________

Still have yet to answer the question, who's currently recruiting him?

Also, to comment on an earlier post, you don't have to pimp kids out to get major offers, talent is what attracts coaches.

If you're good enough, the big programs will find you, whether you're "on the circuit" or not.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Responding to my post... ()
Date: October 31, 2016 05:03PM

Look back.. I said "best player in Virginia"... not best prospect. There are all sorts of reasons why one kid attracts attention over the other, including size, grades, opportunity (i.e. what program he is coming out of and their connections). I'll stick to it. There is not a better high school player around, ability to run with speed, power, elusiveness... and... I happen to think he is actually a better defensive back than running back. He can throw, catch, run and hit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wait 3 minutes ()
Date: October 31, 2016 05:35PM

Hembry is one of the Top Players with out a Doubt..this Douche arguing your point is like my ex-husband Angry, Balding, overweight and the only thing shorter than his Temper is His Well can't even call it Man-hood.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wait a minute! ()
Date: October 31, 2016 06:16PM

Hembry is one of the Top Players with out a Doubt..this Douche arguing your point is like my ex-husband Angry, Balding, overweight and the only thing shorter than his Temper is His Well can't even call it Man-hood.

________________________________________________________________

So now I know what the deal is, I'm dealing with high school kids. I have to assume that since we're now down to name calling which quite often happens when one side really has nothing other than opinion and not factual evidence.

Look, I get it, Hembry is a great high school football player. He is definitely one of the best players in Northern Virginia. But he is not the best player in the state, that's the cold hard fact.

Once again, please answer my question, who does he currently hold offers from? Because in the fall of a high school players senior season top players have multiple offers, most already are committed.

Currently, most major D1 schools are already preparing for the 2018 recruiting class. That's how the top programs stay competitive, they're always a year out which is why the junior year of high school is a football recruits most important season.

So once again, answer the question, who's he hold offers from?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dnsbe ()
Date: October 31, 2016 07:16PM

I can't find any Henry offers online so I assume he doesn't have any.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Recruiting expert ()
Date: October 31, 2016 08:37PM

For the most part the one dude is correct most D1 talent kids already have an offer or offers before their Senior season is over. Having noted that There have been quite a few no scholarship walkons that have earned scholarships at every major D1 school in the country. Many of those have gone on to the NFL. Several D2 and a few D3 players also make it to the NFL Pierre Garcon for ex. Not all arediscovered early.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: recruiting expert ()
Date: October 31, 2016 09:17PM

Here in lies the Dilemna, Hembry is a phenomenal high School football player, he does not Have the 6'-4" height or the 4.3 speed of the 4-5 star athletes...What he does have is Heart and Will which always Prevails. Many of the ACC Schools N.C State, North Carolina, Wake Forest that are Looking at Him are Not Fully committed To making that Offer. If one of the ACC Schools does Pull the Trigger they will be Pleasantly suprised and he will move Rapidly up the depth charts if the ACC passes James Madison, Marshall, Towson, Uconn, Richmond Will Gladly scoop him up..that doesn't take an expert..Be patient Grasshopper, your not paying his Tuition.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Recruiting ()
Date: November 01, 2016 07:29AM

How are his grades? No one gets a scholarship unless they are NCAA certified. Recruiters don't want the best player if he doesn't have the discipline to make it academically. 6'4" dummies with a 4.3 forty kids are working minimum wage jobs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: REcruited ()
Date: November 01, 2016 10:22AM

6'-4" Dummies with 4.3 speed go to Junior College, then on to the Pro's, Hello Cam Newton... He is not Going Ivy League, However he is Far Better than a 2.3 Student, no worries, he is getting educated for Free!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bznsn ()
Date: November 01, 2016 04:26PM

REcruited Wrote:
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> 6'-4" Dummies with 4.3 speed go to Junior College,
> then on to the Pro's, Hello Cam Newton... He is
> not Going Ivy League, However he is Far Better
> than a 2.3 Student, no worries, he is getting
> educated for Free!

Who went to juco after facing felony charges and exclusion from Florida.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Alum Makes Good! ()
Date: November 01, 2016 06:41PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 02, 2016 10:35AM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> What a weird year for NOVA football. How would
> you rank these teams based on perceived strength?
> Who am I missing?
>
> Potomac Falls (7-1) has wins versus Broad
> Run and Briar Woods + has a loss to Tuscarora.
> Tuscarora (5-4) has a win against
> Centreville but a loss to Oakton.
> Oakton (2-6) has a win against Robinson
> (and Tuscarora).
> Robinson (4-4) has no big wins but lost to
> Westfield on the last play of the game.
> Centreville (6-2) has wins against Lake
> Braddock and Broad Run but a close loss to
> Tuscarora and a big loss to Westfield.
> Lake Braddock (7-1) has many lopsided
> victories but an OT win against West Potomac and a
> close loss to Centreville.
> Broad Run (6-2) defeated Stone Bridge but
> lost to Centreville and Potomac Falls.
> Westfield (6-2) has wins against South
> County and Centreville but an OT loss to Briar
> Woods and a big loss to Stone Bridge.
> South County (7-1) has close wins against
> Briar Woods and Hayfield and a close loss to
> Westfield.
> Stone Bridge (6-2) has big wins against
> Westfield and Tuscarora but close losses to
> Madison and Broad Run.
> West Potomac (6-2) has a win against Briar
> Woods but close losses to Lake Braddock and TC
> Williams.
> Madison (7-1) has wins versus Stone Bridge
> and Oakton plus a close loss to South Lakes.
> Hayfield (7-1) has a win against Tuscarora
> and a close loss to South County.
> TC Williams (5-4) has wins against Oakton
> and West Potomac and a close loss to Westfield -
> but big losses to Stone Bridge, South County and
> Lake Braddock.
> South Lakes (8-0) has a close wins versus
> Briar Woods and Madison and remains undefeated.
> From Prince William County Battlefield
> (6-2)
has a close win against Hylton but lost
> to Riverbend and North Stafford.

So Rebel Run S&E decided to venture into the NOVA rankings themselves and came up with:

1. Lake Braddock
2. Hayfield
3. Stone Bridge
4. Woodgrove
5. Westfield
6. South County
7. West Potomac
8. South Lakes
9. Madison
10. Centreville

I guess in this jumbled up season it is not a bad attempt but I think Broad run needs to be in here (and probably Potomac Falls). So logically throw out Centreville and put in Broad Run – which like everything else this year is ironic because Centreville beat Broad Run. See – no matter how you try to rank ‘em someone has a good arugment.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 02, 2016 10:54AM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What a weird year for NOVA football. How would
> > you rank these teams based on perceived
> strength?
> > Who am I missing?
> >
> > Potomac Falls (7-1) has wins versus
> Broad
> > Run and Briar Woods + has a loss to Tuscarora.
> > Tuscarora (5-4) has a win against
> > Centreville but a loss to Oakton.
> > Oakton (2-6) has a win against Robinson
> > (and Tuscarora).
> > Robinson (4-4) has no big wins but lost
> to
> > Westfield on the last play of the game.
> > Centreville (6-2) has wins against Lake
> > Braddock and Broad Run but a close loss to
> > Tuscarora and a big loss to Westfield.
> > Lake Braddock (7-1) has many lopsided
> > victories but an OT win against West Potomac and
> a
> > close loss to Centreville.
> > Broad Run (6-2) defeated Stone Bridge
> but
> > lost to Centreville and Potomac Falls.
> > Westfield (6-2) has wins against South
> > County and Centreville but an OT loss to Briar
> > Woods and a big loss to Stone Bridge.
> > South County (7-1) has close wins
> against
> > Briar Woods and Hayfield and a close loss to
> > Westfield.
> > Stone Bridge (6-2) has big wins against
> > Westfield and Tuscarora but close losses to
> > Madison and Broad Run.
> > West Potomac (6-2) has a win against
> Briar
> > Woods but close losses to Lake Braddock and TC
> > Williams.
> > Madison (7-1) has wins versus Stone
> Bridge
> > and Oakton plus a close loss to South Lakes.
> > Hayfield (7-1) has a win against
> Tuscarora
> > and a close loss to South County.
> > TC Williams (5-4) has wins against
> Oakton
> > and West Potomac and a close loss to Westfield
> -
> > but big losses to Stone Bridge, South County
> and
> > Lake Braddock.
> > South Lakes (8-0) has a close wins
> versus
> > Briar Woods and Madison and remains undefeated.
>
> > From Prince William County Battlefield
> > (6-2)
has a close win against Hylton but
> lost
> > to Riverbend and North Stafford.
>
> So Rebel Run S&E decided to venture into the NOVA
> rankings themselves and came up with:
>
> 1. Lake Braddock
> 2. Hayfield
> 3. Stone Bridge
> 4. Woodgrove
> 5. Westfield
> 6. South County
> 7. West Potomac
> 8. South Lakes
> 9. Madison
> 10. Centreville
>
> I guess in this jumbled up season it is not a bad
> attempt but I think Broad run needs to be in here
> (and probably Potomac Falls). So logically throw
> out Centreville and put in Broad Run – which
> like everything else this year is ironic because
> Centreville beat Broad Run. See – no matter how
> you try to rank ‘em someone has a good arugment.


Rankings are all well and good, but it's the PowerPoint breakdown that matters. We won't have that nailed down until after Friday's games (thank god TC is on the road this week).

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 02, 2016 11:34AM

PowerPoints are most important of course - but those are divided by classification. It's always fun to speculate across all classifications.

Last year I thought the top 4 teams from 6A were also the top 4 teams in the region. This year I don't think so. We'll see how they perform in the playoffs...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 13 guy ()
Date: November 02, 2016 12:20PM

South County (7-1) has close wins
> against
> > Briar Woods and Hayfield and a close loss to
> > Westfield.

if your going to persist that South County had a close loss to Westfield then I am going to stipulate, that if Delaney made the 3 field goals he missed, it would also have been 26-0 with 4-minutes left in the Game before a Blown Coverage put South County on the Board for the First Time. Cry me your Salisbury/McDaniel Garbage. IT WAS NOT REMOTELY CLOSE, that Beat was almost as Bad as the one Westfield took at Stone Bridge.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 02, 2016 01:35PM

Conf 13 guy Wrote:
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> South County (7-1) has close wins
> > against
> > > Briar Woods and Hayfield and a close loss to
> > > Westfield.
>
> if your going to persist that South County had a
> close loss to Westfield then I am going to
> stipulate, that if Delaney made the 3 field goals
> he missed, it would also have been 26-0 with
> 4-minutes left in the Game before a Blown Coverage
> put South County on the Board for the First Time.
> Cry me your Salisbury/McDaniel Garbage. IT WAS
> NOT REMOTELY CLOSE, that Beat was almost as Bad
> as the one Westfield took at Stone Bridge.

If your point is that the overall tenor of the game is not reflected in the final score I can accept that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield is impeccable ()
Date: November 02, 2016 02:00PM

Never question Westfield, the team, the school, the parents, all associated with the program are impeccable. We are winners.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NewtoNova ()
Date: November 02, 2016 03:35PM

Anyone have the all district/conf teams penciled in?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dnKNc ()
Date: November 02, 2016 03:39PM

Westfield is impeccable Wrote:
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> Never question Westfield, the team, the school,
> the parents, all associated with the program are
> impeccable.

Go away. This WAS YOU last year. Let it go. You changed your tactics but still the same person.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hmmmmm... ()
Date: November 02, 2016 03:48PM

Hayfield #2? That's pretty ballsy, they certainly do belong on that list.... but #2 is an extremely high ranking for a novice "playoff run" team. And for the record, I can't honestly think of a deserving team for #2 either... so to there own.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Go away you bum ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:05PM

Yeah who is this bum who keeps mocking Westfield, must be from South County. We are really an honorable, great program and do not deserve losers trying to bring us down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:08PM

Westfield is impeccable Wrote:
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> Never question Westfield, the team, the school,
> the parents, all associated with the program are
> impeccable.

Go away. This WAS YOU last year. Let it go. You changed your tactics but still the same person.

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I know I'm contradicting myself but recently when this idiot posts stuff he's ignored and stays silent. I think everyone on here has caught on to his game. It's only when someone directly responds to any of his multiple posts under multiple names does he go rabid cause he's got a stage. He must be lonely and in need of love and attention. But as you've proven and most have guessed all along he's a Centreville student/fan/parent.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Monster Week Coming Up... ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:39PM

What's at stake? Well, a lot. Sure, with 16 teams getting in in 6A North and 5A North, there is less drama about actually making it, but still lots riding on results from this Friday.

I enjoy the entire region, not just Fairfax County 6A, so here goes:

I believe Woodgrove (# 2 in VA in 4A) is one of only two udefeated teams north of Richmond. They play cross-town rival Loudoun Valley, who happens to be 7-2 in their own right. Look for Woodgrove to cap undefeated regular season.

Speaking of undefeated teams, Brooke Point, with their D1 running back, plays Massaponax (8-1). Ponax has been the big dogs in that conference for the last few years, and winner of this game not only gets district championship, but also earns #1 seed in 5A North.

Broad Run (7-2 and #20 in Washington Post) is at Tuscarora. Broad Run had Tusky beat last year but Tusky pulled off amazing finish by going 75 yards in less than a minute and then went for 2 pt conversion to win 43-42.. Broad Run clinches first district championship in quite a while with a win. Toughest district in the state according to calpreps and other websites.

Stone Bridge at Briar Woods. Briar has no chance if Maffe doesn't play. Reports indicate bum shoulder, which would be too bad. If he plays, Briar is peaking and always dangerous. Stone Bridge can win their first Potomac District championship (only their 3rd year in Potomac District, but still...) if they win and Broad Run slips up. Stone Bridge in line for either # 2 or # 3 seed in 5A North.

Hayfield-Madison. Not sure how healthy Madison is, but when fully functioning, they would seem more physical and capable of controlling clock and tempo. Do they have either the pass rush or the defensive back play to hold Hawks down?
Seeding at stake, but more importantly, Hayfield can claim district crown with a win.

Braddock - South County. Big, big match-up! Both have have flaws, but both are at the top of 6A North. Winner will be considered favorites to advance to state championship game, although in this year of the upset, anything can happen. Braddock favored by 6 by Calpreps, by the way.

Westfield-Chantilly - Used to be at least interesting, but Chantilly has fallen off of a cliff. Big question this year is can Chantilly keep Westfield under 50 and can they avoid the shutout.

Yorktown- Washington + Lee - Interesting in that it looks like winner is in playoffs and loser is out. My God, what has happened to Arlington football?

Enjoy!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Give me the Academy Award ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:42PM

Sorry assholes, I do not have anything to do with Centreville, could care less about that school, you people must be obsessed with teams that have beaten you in the past.

Acting!!!!
Winning!!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Rulez ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:46PM

Well whoever you are Westfield is still the best

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bowl Eligible ()
Date: November 02, 2016 04:51PM

Monster Week Coming Up... Wrote:
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> What's at stake? Well, a lot. Sure, with 16 teams
> getting in in 6A North and 5A North, there is less
> drama about actually making it, but still lots
> riding on results from this Friday.
>
> I enjoy the entire region, not just Fairfax County
> 6A, so here goes:
>
> I believe Woodgrove (# 2 in VA in 4A) is one of
> only two udefeated teams north of Richmond. They
> play cross-town rival Loudoun Valley, who happens
> to be 7-2 in their own right. Look for Woodgrove
> to cap undefeated regular season.
>
> Speaking of undefeated teams, Brooke Point, with
> their D1 running back, plays Massaponax (8-1).
> Ponax has been the big dogs in that conference for
> the last few years, and winner of this game not
> only gets district championship, but also earns #1
> seed in 5A North.
>
> Broad Run (7-2 and #20 in Washington Post) is at
> Tuscarora. Broad Run had Tusky beat last year but
> Tusky pulled off amazing finish by going 75 yards
> in less than a minute and then went for 2 pt
> conversion to win 43-42.. Broad Run clinches first
> district championship in quite a while with a win.
> Toughest district in the state according to
> calpreps and other websites.
>
> Stone Bridge at Briar Woods. Briar has no chance
> if Maffe doesn't play. Reports indicate bum
> shoulder, which would be too bad. If he plays,
> Briar is peaking and always dangerous. Stone
> Bridge can win their first Potomac District
> championship (only their 3rd year in Potomac
> District, but still...) if they win and Broad Run
> slips up. Stone Bridge in line for either # 2 or #
> 3 seed in 5A North.
>
> Hayfield-Madison. Not sure how healthy Madison is,
> but when fully functioning, they would seem more
> physical and capable of controlling clock and
> tempo. Do they have either the pass rush or the
> defensive back play to hold Hawks down?
> Seeding at stake, but more importantly, Hayfield
> can claim district crown with a win.
>
> Braddock - South County. Big, big match-up! Both
> have have flaws, but both are at the top of 6A
> North. Winner will be considered favorites to
> advance to state championship game, although in
> this year of the upset, anything can happen.
> Braddock favored by 6 by Calpreps, by the way.
>
> Westfield-Chantilly - Used to be at least
> interesting, but Chantilly has fallen off of a
> cliff. Big question this year is can Chantilly
> keep Westfield under 50 and can they avoid the
> shutout.
>
> Yorktown- Washington + Lee - Interesting in that
> it looks like winner is in playoffs and loser is
> out. My God, what has happened to Arlington
> football?
>
> Enjoy!


It really just comes down to recruiting and this past year the coaches just haven't put enough time or focus on that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: dpanal ()
Date: November 02, 2016 05:02PM

6A Northern Region

Lake Braddock (295) 32.78
South County (284) 31.56
South Lakes (284) 31.56
Westfield (283) 31.44
Madison (278) 30.89
Hayfield (277) 30.78
Centreville (274) 30.44
West Potomac (265) 29.44
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T.C. Williams (253) 28.11
Battlefield (251) 27.89
Mount Vernon (239) 26.56
Patriot (238) 26.44
Oakton (230) 25.56
Robinson (226) 25.11
W.T. Woodson (221) 24.56
Annandale (220) 24.44
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Yorktown (219) 24.33*
Chantilly (218) 24.22
Washington-Lee (218) 24.22
West Springfield (193) 21.44
Langley (191) 21.22
Stonewall Jackson (211) 21.10
Herndon (183) 20.33
Osbourn (183) 20.33
McLean (181) 20.11
Osbourn Park (169) 18.78
Fairfax (164) 18.22



5A Northern Region

Brooke Point (298) 33.11
Massaponax (287) 31.89
Stone Bridge (285) 31.67
Potomac Falls (272) 30.22
Albemarle (267) 29.67
Broad Run (266) 29.56
Patrick Henry (Roa) (255) 28.33
North Stafford (247) 27.44
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Patrick Henry (Ash) (243) 27.00
Briar Woods (242) 26.89
Tuscarora (236) 26.22
Orange (229) 25.44
Atlee (227) 25.22
Falls Church (222) 24.67
Marshall (211) 23.44
Potomac (204) 22.67
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Lee (203) 22.56
Mountain View (203) 22.56
Stafford (200) 22.22
Stuart (193) 21.44
Halifax County (196) 19.60
Wakefield (174) 19.33
Edison (164) 18.22
Thomas Jefferson (90) 15.00

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HA Chantilly ()
Date: November 02, 2016 09:28PM

Must suck for Chantilly fans and players to be given false hope about being a good team because of their cupcake schedule. Pretty sad that they get put together with powerhouses like McLean and Lee but still can't manage to work a way into the playoffs.
Enjoy the L, #5 Thomas! Always on here promoting yourself but your team can't back you up. Besides, Chantilly is a basketball school.
And you heard here first folks... MADISON wins the NR! Warhawk!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hey Madison, Fan!!!!!! ()
Date: November 02, 2016 10:23PM

Do they have everyone back and at full strength yet?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hey Hayfield, fan!!!!! ()
Date: November 02, 2016 10:52PM

Hey Madison, Fan!!!!!! Wrote:
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> Do they have everyone back and at full strength
> yet?


Though, it's off topic, I think it goes to say that Hayfield has hurt players as well. Inside LB in the last play of SL broke his knee or something like that, seemed to be a bit floppy from my seat. Prior to that their starting RB #22 was hurt against Langley. And a 3 year starting lineman since the SOCO game.

Are Madison's RB's back?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I'd take cake ()
Date: November 02, 2016 10:58PM

Seeing Hayfield's defense improved so much to hold the RB duo at SL was pretty exciting to see. They forced SL to make lots of passing plays which is quite obviously Hawk territory. Though I've seen Madison as well, and they're quite balanced on offense, but their defense suffers the same problem which is a novice secondary. Though Madison's line is very explosive, so if they can get the pressure on they could prevent those 1v1 situations with Hayfield's receivers and slow'em down.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 02, 2016 11:04PM

The two first stringers Counts (ACL) and Koshuta (?) will still be out as is a lineman. Thomas, Quinto, and Walker (occasionally Kidd) handling the RB duties, plus they do run variations of the jet sweep and quick screens to the WRs (Conforti is very good and Finney is scary fast) and Choutka is pretty quick on scrambles. Trick is with whether Madison can get enough line pressure to the throw off the QB timing, DBs are good (Finney plays both ways) but the others aren't hyper fast, Kidd is quick to the ball at SS.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 02, 2016 11:18PM

HA Chantilly Wrote:
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> Must suck for Chantilly fans and players to be
> given false hope about being a good team because
> of their cupcake schedule. Pretty sad that they
> get put together with powerhouses like McLean and
> Lee but still can't manage to work a way into the
> playoffs.
> Enjoy the L, #5 Thomas! Always on here promoting
> yourself but your team can't back you up. Besides,
> Chantilly is a basketball school.
> And you heard here first folks... MADISON wins the
> NR! Warhawk!

Madison or any other Liberty team stand no chance against SOCO, LB, WF, and CVille in the playoffs. Chantilly is more of a golf and baseball school, they finished either 3rd or 4th in their conference last year for basketball, they got worked by the eventual state champions Westfield 3 times. Can't call them a basketball school if they have no state titles to back it up. In fact, I doubt that any NR 6A school has the right to call itself a basketball school. When was the last time they won a State Championship not counting last year? That Westfield team is an exception.

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Posted by: I'd take cake ()
Date: November 02, 2016 11:25PM

Nice to here, I haven't really studied'em much (stick with Alexandria teams). I think it'll be the best game in Liberty.

And finally for Hayfield, many might not think it, but Hayfield can run the ball, and run it well. As good as Mad? Who knows, but it's effective. Their line doesn't seem to amazingly strong, but they can move around and get good positioning a long with their miniature RB who's agility reflects that of trying to catch a chicken.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Stand NO chance? ()
Date: November 02, 2016 11:35PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> HA Chantilly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Must suck for Chantilly fans and players to be
> > given false hope about being a good team
> because
> > of their cupcake schedule. Pretty sad that they
> > get put together with powerhouses like McLean
> and
> > Lee but still can't manage to work a way into
> the
> > playoffs.
> > Enjoy the L, #5 Thomas! Always on here
> promoting
> > yourself but your team can't back you up.
> Besides,
> > Chantilly is a basketball school.
> > And you heard here first folks... MADISON wins
> the
> > NR! Warhawk!
>
> Madison or any other Liberty team stand no chance
> against SOCO, LB, WF, and CVille in the playoffs.
> Chantilly is more of a golf and baseball school,
> they finished either 3rd or 4th in their
> conference last year for basketball, they got
> worked by the eventual state champions Westfield 3
> times. Can't call them a basketball school if they
> have no state titles to back it up. In fact, I
> doubt that any NR 6A school has the right to call
> itself a basketball school. When was the last time
> they won a State Championship not counting last
> year? That Westfield team is an exception.

I think you're a little senile their pal. I'm ignoring all the BBall stuff, but TOP 3 Liberty does hold a fist to the other powers for sure. Yeah, maybe their secluded due to being in an, overall, bad conference, but last time I checked: they all beat their Loudon counter parts (SB, Tuscy, and Broad Run) who gave those power teams trouble and beaten them(minus LB) Hayfield, the only one to play a precognitive region power lost by a measly 4 points in a 50-46 barn burner in the last two minutes. CVille can go bye-bye for now, as Westfield crushed them mercilessly while losing atrociously (By WF standards) to Stone Bridge and Briar Woods. Hell, if anything I'm sure everyone agrees that the "region powers" are inconsistent this year and all but LB do not deserve to be called a "power".

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hayfield Madison ()
Date: November 03, 2016 12:22AM

Hayfield vs Madison game will come to down to whether or not Madison can run the ball effectively(Counts(ACL) Koshuta(ACL) best lineman all out) and if Mad can pressure qb. Mad d-line explosive with Porter(beast) and Rababeh, if they can get to keeney and not give him time to throw and cobbs time to get open, Mad will win

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kimmy's Back ()
Date: November 03, 2016 11:07AM

For Many this week Means Nada, for Some it's win and in and for others, the fate of their post season run could be impacted dramatically:

Briarwoods vs. Stonebridge BW does not have the Juice to make this a GO. No Maffe, No hope. SB by 16.

Broad Run vs. Tuscarora whats at stake is the District Title for BR, Tusky does not have enough Centreville Magic left in them to stop #2 from hoisting the Banner. BR by 8

Centreville vs. Robinson Which Team shows, Robinson looks to keep it close and try to instill a sense of belonging before week #11 C-ville by 5

Falls Church vs. Stuart Stuart has not shown up since week #1, tomorrow night wont be any different, Falls Church enjoys another big night before reality comes knocking week #11-12. Falls Church by 31

Lake Braddock vs. South County, although the conference title is nice, the Region Title has been on both these teams minds for Years. Win and hoist the Conference Banner, lose and a #2-#3 seed will allow you potentially to not meet Westfield before the Region Final, is Panogne smart enough to know this.. nope, South County by 7, Lake Braddock will get the Lesser Seed and win an extra week of Play-off Football!

Madison vs. Hayfield. Hawks or Warhawks who has the sharper Talons, Hayfield found their stride Madison still ailing. Hayfield by 11

Marshall vs. Jefferson, The Fix might be in, a few Marshall kids need a little SAT/ACT help, Point shaving definitely in play if Marshall does not win by 40

McLean vs. Langley both teams have a major case of affluenza, Langley shows their not-so Rich neighbors where the $$$$ is, Langley by 28.

Oakton vs. Herndon..the battle of Last Place in the COncorde and possibly the right to jump Districts...Herndon keeps it close against a poor Oakton Team, Oakton by 10.

Potomac Falls vs. Edison. P-Falls sets up their Play-off run a week early. P-Falls by 35.

South Lakes vs. Fairfax, almost feel sorry for South Lakes having such a no contest week #10, Hope the Lag does not get them Week #11, S-Lakes resting all starters by 2nd quarter by 45.

T.C vs. W.T. the acronym Bowl, A Nice Turn around by T.C. continues as they look to make an impact week #11 T.C. by 9

Wakefield vs. Lee, Lee Wins they just might see post season play, the team with more on the line wins...Lee by 11

West Potomac vs. Mt. Vernon, West Po about to show the Majors what Week #11 Football Looks Like West Po by 19.

West Springfield vs. Annandale, West Springfield would like to end the season on a winning note, not likely, Annandale by 5.

Westfield vs. Chantilly, once Mighty Rivalry has been off last few years, the real question is will C. Thomas have more catches than J. Free has interceptions. I think Free has more INT's as Westfield Rolls by 36.

York Town vs. W&L with a W.T or Annandale Loss, York town gets in, Yorktown fighting for the postseason if they can stop the aerial attack of W&L, Yorktown by 2.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: C. Thomas number 5 ()
Date: November 03, 2016 11:14PM

Hey guys! I'm going to get obliterated by the clear dominant force of VHSL football. I spend all my time on fairfax underground instead of winning games. Don't mind me, I am just out here to seek your attention while my program goes to shambles.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 04, 2016 06:52AM

Centreville (-7.0) @ Robinson

Falls Church (-27.0) @ Stuart

Lake Braddock (-6.0) @ South County

Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0)

Marshall (-45.0) @ Jefferson

McLean @ Langley (-21.0)

Oakton (-13.0) @ Herndon

Potomac Falls (-42.0) @ Edison

South Lakes (48.0) @ Fairfax

TC Williams (-1.0) @ Woodson

Wakefield @ Lee (-7.0)

West Potomac (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon

West Springfield @ Annandale (-1.0)

Westfield (-28.0) @ Chantilly

Yorktown @ Washington-Lee (-3.0)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 04, 2016 10:09AM

Thanks Steve for doing the spreads again this year. Hope you find time to continue through the playoffs. I have been enjoying them for 5 or 6 years now however long it has been.

Kimmy the Greek might be overtaking you in the entertainment factor though! Kimmy has some snarky wit - not bad for FFXU.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 04, 2016 10:34AM

Here goes:

Centreville (-7.0) @ Robinson
I'm going with Centreville to cover here.

Falls Church (-27.0) @ Stuart
Falls Church wins but doesn't cover

Lake Braddock (-6.0) @ South County
South County has a mad-on after last week and wins this.

Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0)
Hayfield wins but doesn't cover

Marshall (-45.0) @ Jefferson
uh, yeah, sure, why not.

McLean @ Langley (-21.0)
Langely wins but not by that much.

Oakton (-13.0) @ Herndon
Oakton covers that spread

Potomac Falls (-42.0) @ Edison
Might not be enough points on this one.

South Lakes (48.0) @ Fairfax
See above.

TC Williams (-1.0) @ Woodson
I'm taking Woodson on this one.

Wakefield @ Lee (-7.0)
Lee wins and covers.

West Potomac (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
WestPo wins and covers

West Springfield @ Annandale (-1.0)
Wow. How the mighty have fallen. I'll take the 'Dale at home giving the point.

Westfield (-28.0) @ Chantilly
Chantilly keeps it closer than that.

Yorktown @ Washington-Lee (-3.0)
I'll take yorktown.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kimmy the Greek ()
Date: November 04, 2016 12:04PM

Not only does Kimmy have Snarky Wit, she's pretty sharp..Picked both "upsets" last week, that's Right nothing like a woman's intuition, time to roll up the Ol Skirt and get back to Work. Roll Film!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: maybe not ()
Date: November 04, 2016 03:09PM

Maybe Kimmy is not a guy same as the anti-Westfield guy is not from Centreville. You guys are always so gullible and make rash judgements, ha ha

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: November 04, 2016 04:17PM

I join everyone else I thanking Steve for doing these. I hope they will continue through the playoffs and next season as well.

I'll take my stab at this:

Steve K Wrote:
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> Centreville (-7.0) @ Robinson

Centreville wins and covers.
>
> Falls Church (-27.0) @ Stuart

Falls Church wins and covers.
>
> Lake Braddock (-6.0) @ South County

Lake Braddock wins and covers. I think that West Potomac loss exposed So Co a bit.
>
> Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0)

At the beginning of the season, I would have put Hayfield behind both South Lakes and Madison in Liberty. However, Hayfield seems to be coming on, and South Lakes and Madison are both fading a bit. I'll take Hayfield to win and cover.
>
> Marshall (-45.0) @ Jefferson

I hate big lines, but I can't see any way for TJ to keep this close. I'll take Marshall to win and cover.
>
> McLean @ Langley (-21.0)

This game is a bit hard to evaluate, but I'll use both teams' performances against WL and Yorktown as a measuring stick. Langley was competitive against both. McLean wasn't. I'll take Langley to win and cover.
>
> Oakton (-13.0) @ Herndon

Oakton wins and covers.
>
> Potomac Falls (-42.0) @ Edison

Another big line, but it's Edison. I'll take Potomac Falls to win and cover.
>
> South Lakes (48.0) @ Fairfax

Another big line. Perhaps Fairfax will draw some inspiration from their Northern Region championship field hockey team. South Lakes wins, but doesn't cover.
>
> TC Williams (-1.0) @ Woodson

TC wins and covers.
>
> Wakefield @ Lee (-7.0)

Lee Wins and covers.
>
> West Potomac (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon

Mt. Vernon has come back to earth. Not enough points on this one. West Po wins and covers.
>
> West Springfield @ Annandale (-1.0)

I'll take Annandale.
>
> Westfield (-28.0) @ Chantilly

Westfield wins and covers.
>
> Yorktown @ Washington-Lee (-3.0)

At the beginning of the season, I though that Yorktown would be Arlington Champs. Now, I'm not so sure. I'll take WL to win and cover.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 04, 2016 07:28PM

1:42 left in Q1 Madison 17Hayfield 0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 04, 2016 07:33PM

End of Q1 Madison 24 Hayfield 0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: updat ()
Date: November 04, 2016 07:44PM

Hayfield 6 Madison 24
SoCo 14 Lake Braddock 9
Both early 2nd

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: agai ()
Date: November 04, 2016 07:52PM

Hayfield 12 Madison 24
TJ 7 Marshall 0.... Holy fuck TJ IS WINNING A GAME!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: lbsoco ()
Date: November 04, 2016 08:00PM

Braddock 23 Soco 14.
I'd be willing to be TJ loses 7-60 something also

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 04, 2016 08:16PM

Westfield - Chantilly seems to be much closer than many anticipated.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wowowow ()
Date: November 04, 2016 08:35PM

TJ 13 Marshall 7 halftime... The smart kids came to play? Or Marshall started a jv team or a team full of kids with down syndrome.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: closer than reality ()
Date: November 04, 2016 08:42PM

49 to 7 Westfield over Chantilly 3rd qtr

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hfhawks ()
Date: November 04, 2016 09:24PM

Hayfield scores a quick 14 to make it 34-38 Madison 6 Min 4Q

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 04, 2016 09:37PM

Madison goal line stand Madison 38 Hayfield 34 Final

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Gamesnnn ()
Date: November 04, 2016 09:59PM

Braddock wins 52-44 over South Co.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 04, 2016 10:06PM

Woodson 34
TCW 10

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cville Robo ()
Date: November 04, 2016 11:11PM

Centreville 14-7 over Robinson

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 6 rivalry games ()
Date: November 04, 2016 11:45PM

14-10 W-L over Yorktown
39-10 Langley over McLean

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Final Standings ()
Date: November 05, 2016 02:50AM

Rank Team Rating
1 Lake Braddock 34.20
2 Madison 33.10
3 Westfield 32.40
4 South Lakes 31.80
5 Centreville 31.50
6 South County 31.30
7 West Potomac 30.80
8 Hayfield 30.60
9 Patriot 28.50
10 T.C. Williams 28.10
11 Battlefield 28.00
12 Mount Vernon 27.00
13 Oakton 26.40
14 Woodson 26.10
15 Washington Lee 25.90
16 Robinson 25.70

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: unofficial6Abacket ()
Date: November 05, 2016 06:44AM

UNOFFICAL
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Damn shame ()
Date: November 05, 2016 08:07AM

Hay honestly had the ability to win, but all that cockiness got to them (Twitter). They were down 24-0 first quarter, and the deficit was too much to recover. Ranked 8 oughta teach'em a lesson.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Can someone post 5A bracket? ()
Date: November 05, 2016 10:13AM

Lots of intrigue, tie breaks, local teams facing off way too early....

Does anyone have access? Washington Post has no idea how to plug in proper points/seeds....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Final Standings ()
Date: November 05, 2016 10:28AM

Sorry, I entered the Wakefield-Lee game in wrong in my spreadsheet which effects the power points for LB, MV and W&L. I should know better than to to this at 3:00 in the morning. Anyway, the bracket is the same because even though W&L and Rob are tied, W&L beats out Rob for 15th via the fifth tiebreaker - highest winning percentage.

1 Lake Braddock 34.40
2 Madison 33.10
3 Westfield 32.40
4 South Lakes 31.80
5 Centreville 31.50
6 South County 31.30
7 West Potomac 30.80
8 Hayfield 30.60
9 Patriot 28.50
10 T.C. Williams 28.10
11 Battlefield 28.00
12 Mount Vernon 26.80
13 Oakton 26.40
14 Woodson 26.10
15 Washington Lee 25.70
15 Robinson 25.70


Final Standings Wrote:
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> Rank Team Rating
> 1 Lake Braddock 34.20
> 2 Madison 33.10
> 3 Westfield 32.40
> 4 South Lakes 31.80
> 5 Centreville 31.50
> 6 South County 31.30
> 7 West Potomac 30.80
> 8 Hayfield 30.60
> 9 Patriot 28.50
> 10 T.C. Williams 28.10
> 11 Battlefield 28.00
> 12 Mount Vernon 27.00
> 13 Oakton 26.40
> 14 Woodson 26.10
> 15 Washington Lee 25.90
> 16 Robinson 25.70

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 05, 2016 12:49PM

Can someone post 5A bracket? Wrote:
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> Lots of intrigue, tie breaks, local teams facing
> off way too early....
>
> Does anyone have access? Washington Post has no
> idea how to plug in proper points/seeds....

1. Massaponax
2. Brooke Point
3. Stone Bridge
4. Potomac Falls
5. Albermarle
6. Broad Run
7. Patrick Henry Roanoke
8. Patrick Henry Ashland
9. Briar Woods
10. North Stafford
11. Tuscarora
12. Falls Church
13. Orange
14. Atlee
15. Mountain View
16. Marshall

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hey Gau... ()
Date: November 05, 2016 01:05PM

That is what I got, but I am not sure it is exactly correct. Where did you see that?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: probablycorrect ()
Date: November 05, 2016 01:40PM

Hey Gau... Wrote:
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> That is what I got, but I am not sure it is
> exactly correct. Where did you see that?

Briar Woods saying they are the #9 seed and facing Patrick Henry Ashland in the first round.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The End ()
Date: November 05, 2016 03:03PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not for everyone, but ()
Date: November 05, 2016 06:22PM

I know that most of you are only concerned with 6A, but let's be honest, 5A is just as good, and probably better when you add in the top teams from Stafford. So, for those who do enjoy great high school football, rundown on 1st round 5A matchups...

1 Massaponax v 16 Marshall - Can the statesman keep the spread under 50 is Q.

2 Brooke Point v 15 Mt. View - Ponax exposed BP but Mt V not good enough to do same.

3 Stone Bridge v 14 Atlee - Atlee better than # 12 and # 13 seeds, but SB should get the W.

4 Pot Falls v 13 Orange - Behind Marshall, Orange is weakest team in field.
Pot Falls lucks out, as they probably could not defeat any district opponents at this point of the season if matched up.

5 Albemarle v 12 Falls Church - Albemarle wins tie break against Broad Run. Good thing for them because they can beat FC, but not Tuscarora.

6 Broad Run v 11 Tuscarora - Tough draw for both of these teams, which played an epic last night. Worse yet, winner gets SB. No relief for Loudoun 5A's. It is too bad that they will have to knock each other out.

7 N Stafford v 10 Patrick Henry-Roanoke - Roanoke football is step behind, but N. Stafford reeling after loss to Mt. View last night.

8 Briar Woods v 9 Patrick Henry - Ashland. BW goes 4-6 but win over Westfield propels them so that they actually host a playoff game with this record. Ashland should be a tough out for them. Winner gets pole axed by Ponax in Round Two.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 06, 2016 08:33AM

Here is a recap of week 10. I think it was the most accurate point margin predictions yet, which hopefully bodes well for the playoffs. I will post postseason predictions momentarily.

Centreville (-7.0) @ Robinson
*Centreville won 14-7, nice to start the week off nailing one.

Falls Church (-27.0) @ Stuart
*Falls Church won 44-19, another pretty close line! Falls Church dominated the conference this year, but will likely be a quick out in regionals.

Lake Braddock (-6.0) @ South County
*Lake Braddock won 52-44.

Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0)
*Madison won 38-34. Good final win for the Warhawks to lock up the 2 seed.

Marshall (-45.0) @ Jefferson
*Marshall won 48-13. Jefferson finishes with their best performance, actually up most of the first half. Marshall sneaks into the playoffs as the 16 seed.

McLean @ Langley (-21.0)
*Langley won 39-10.

Oakton (-13.0) @ Herndon
*Oakton won 45-14, the game was actually at Oakton.

Potomac Falls (-42.0) @ Edison
*Potomac Falls won 49-0.

South Lakes (48.0) @ Fairfax
*South Lakes won 56-0.

TC Williams (-1.0) @ Woodson
*Woodson won 34-10 and gets a playoff spot. Great performance by the Cavaliers.

Wakefield @ Lee (-7.0)
*Lee won 33-14.

West Potomac (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
*West Po won 45-14/

West Springfield @ Annandale (-1.0)
*West Springfield won 21-7.

Westfield (-28.0) @ Chantilly
*Westfield won 49-21, nailed a second Concorde! This is the most down Chantilly has been in 10+ years, are they going to come back soon?

Yorktown @ Washington-Lee (-3.0)
*Washington Lee won 14-10.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 06, 2016 08:48AM

6A
16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0)
*Hey, who would have thought Robinson falls to 16 seed after this heavily anticipated early season match. This is the best 16/1 matchup we'll probably ever get, and I do expect Robinson to hang around and make this game interesting. This is actually my favorite matchup of round 1.

15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0)
*Warhawks cruise in this conference matchup.

14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0)
*I am super excited that we'll in all likelihood get Westfield-South County the following week. The quarterfinals will be crazy as most teams will have a shot at a region championship, and I think it is a strong likelihood that the region winner will come from this game.

13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0)
*Seahawks have too much athleticism, I can see Oakton keeping it close for a little while though.

12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0)

11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0)

10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0)
*West Potomac is getting hot at the right time.

9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0)

5A picks are still to come, tough when there's so many teams I know nothing about.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Carolyn ()
Date: November 06, 2016 09:12AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> 6A
> 16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0)
> *Hey, who would have thought Robinson falls to 16
> seed after this heavily anticipated early season
> match. This is the best 16/1 matchup we'll
> probably ever get, and I do expect Robinson to
> hang around and make this game interesting. This
> is actually my favorite matchup of round 1.
>
> 15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0)
> *Warhawks cruise in this conference matchup.
>
> 14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0)
> *I am super excited that we'll in all likelihood
> get Westfield-South County the following week.
> The quarterfinals will be crazy as most teams will
> have a shot at a region championship, and I think
> it is a strong likelihood that the region winner
> will come from this game.
>
> 13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0)
> *Seahawks have too much athleticism, I can see
> Oakton keeping it close for a little while
> though.
>
> 12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0)
>
> 11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0)
>
> 10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0)
> *West Potomac is getting hot at the right time.
>
> 9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0)
>
> 5A picks are still to come, tough when there's so
> many teams I know nothing about.

Madison once again plays a shitty team, I wouldn't write Oakton off just yet they may have resentment towards South Lakes due to last year's playoff game and play better than they usually do

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 4-6? ()
Date: November 06, 2016 09:13AM

A little ridiculous that teams with a record of 4-6 can make the playoffs isn't it?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not only make the playoffs, but. ()
Date: November 06, 2016 09:28AM

host a 1st round game. You know what, though? Screw those teams that don't play anybody all year. Briar Woods would beat Falls Church by 30 if they played. Briar's schedule was ridiculous, and they earned all sorts of points for beating Westfield and losing to teams like Stone Bridge, Broad Run, West Potomac, and Potomac Falls. Who did Falls Church beat... or even lost to?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 06, 2016 10:53AM

Falls Church was undefeated in their 5A conference. You can't fault them for who they have to play, which is all the Fairfax and Arlington 5A teams. Their other games were besting Herndon and losses to Oakton, Potomac Falls and Eastern DC.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: noatallnotatall ()
Date: November 06, 2016 10:53AM

4-6? Wrote:
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> A little ridiculous that teams with a record of
> 4-6 can make the playoffs isn't it?

No. It only makes sense. It discourages teams from padding their schedules with pushovers to go 10-0. The PowerPoints system is not perfect by any means but it is a nice compromise that at least recognizes strength of schedule.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Not that easy, but... ()
Date: November 06, 2016 12:07PM

Falls Church (#12 seed with 7-3 record) and Briar Woods (#8 seed with 4-6 record) played one common opponent.

Briar Woods was leading Potomac Falls by 14 at halftime before falling in OT.

Falls Church got pole axed by Pot Falls by 32.

Point system is as fair a system as you can have considering the disparity in schedule and district strength.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: November 06, 2016 03:38PM

Any information on All conference selections?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Waa? ()
Date: November 07, 2016 07:11AM

Not only make the playoffs, but. Wrote:
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> host a 1st round game.


Who is hosting a playoff game at 4-6?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 07, 2016 07:14PM

Briar Woods. Only reason is cause of their tough schedule and the win over Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 07, 2016 08:03PM

Apparently Westfield has the 3rd most playoff wins since 1970. Impressive considering they were built in 2001.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VHSL REFERENCE ()
Date: November 07, 2016 08:30PM

STATE CHAMPS BY AREA CODE ALL TIME
757-73
540-62
434-43
276-38
703-32
804-31
571-6

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 07, 2016 09:14PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Briar Woods. Only reason is cause of their tough
> schedule and the win over Westfield.

The game will be played at Patrick Henry in Ashland, not in Ashburn.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfieldfootballhistorian ()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:15PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Apparently Westfield has the 3rd most playoff wins
> since 1970. Impressive considering they were built
> in 2001.

Technically 2000 but who is checking? And that is 3rd most in the 703 area code not in the state or anything.

But a little trivia: Coach Simmons (15-4) has more playoff wins in his first five seasons than Coach Verbanic (12-7) had in his 11 years coaching at Westfield.
Verbanic was 1-and-done four times. In fact, the only playoffs he ever won more than 1 game was the two state championship runs in 2003 and 2007.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield frequent masturbator ()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:22PM

And do you know in 2009 the team went with black and gold instead of gold and black and we all rejoiced because we had a color scheme even prettier and then we all started masturbating together because Westfield is so important to this world

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757757757757757 ()
Date: November 08, 2016 09:45AM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 08, 2016 10:25AM

757757757757757 Wrote:
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> Who the North Region will be playing on December
> 10.
>
> https://virginiapreps.rivals.com/news/video-oscar-
> smith-s-shon-mitchell-after-26-21-win-over-grassfi
> eld


At least graassfield is a 6A school, unlike the 7 3A, 4A and 5A teams they play. So they've got that going for them. I guess.

91 game winning streak over much smaller schools isn't exactly something to crow about.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 757757757757757757 ()
Date: November 08, 2016 10:32AM

Oh and I forgot to remind you all I am the one who supports cheating down in the 757 (and I have a small penis)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hampton Roads ()
Date: November 08, 2016 01:04PM

VHSL POWERPOINTS

SMITH = 35.3333

LB = 34.40000

So dispite the SouthEastern District having a large mix of 3A to 6A schools, SMITH was able to build more power points than Northern VA schools that have districts with almost all 6A schools? What does that tell you about 757 Football? To me it says our small schools would still be very competitive against the much larger schools.

Additionally, between the 804 & 757, the 6A South brackets have no teams with a losing record.

All I've read on this thread throughout 2016 is how Northern VA 6A football is down vs years past. The numbers from VHSL Reference also reflect the same. I would have to say that without the influences of Ocean Lakes recruiting kids, the 757 Southside is VERY Competitive. The smaller SouthEastern District schools will win multiple playoff games same as they did last year.

What Northern VA has to worry about, is that SMITH has only allowed 73 points against their 9 VHSL opponents, they've gotten bigger on both the OL/DL & Shon Mitchell has caught fire the 2nd half of the season along with having an improved run game vs 2015. Oh, and Smith had only 1 one starter that transferred out (3 All Region/ Div I players left before the 2015 even started) and NONE transferred IN..

Additionally, Woodside, Grassfield, Cox, Manchester, Tallwood, Bayside and Colonial Forge all have only a couple of losses and would be capable of representing the 6A South Region. But the Ocean Lakes saga is OVER, DONE they didn't make the playoffs. So, despite Centreville's legitimate complaint about the 2014 Championship, moving forward the cheating excuses are just weak and pathetic!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 08, 2016 02:33PM

Conf 7 Guy Wrote:
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> At least graassfield is a 6A school, unlike the 7
> 3A, 4A and 5A teams they play. So they've got that
> going for them. I guess.
>
> 91 game winning streak over much smaller schools
> isn't exactly something to crow about.

I disagree with you. The size of a school doesn't even rank in the top 5 factors that make a great football program in my opinion. Just like I don't like the Loudoun powers pretending that a crappy 6A football program is somehow advantaged because of a higher student enrollment - I don't think it is right to dismiss Oscar Smith's success against smaller schools solely because they are smaller. If they are playing loser 3-4-5A schools then you have an argument.

And I don't think it is deniable that 6A North is having an off year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Apples Oranges ()
Date: November 08, 2016 05:04PM

Multiple factors can play into how big a team can grow their power points. If they play in a large conference they can only accumulate so many rider wins. In an 8 team conference, the total win/loss inside the conference is going to be 28-28. Smaller conferences are able to schedule opponents that will get a lot of wins. Either because they good, or because they play weak opponents and will rack up easy wins. I would not compare north/south, it's meaningless.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 08, 2016 06:32PM

OS power points are based on 9 games. If you factor in the game they lost it might be a little less.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hampton Roads ()
Date: November 08, 2016 06:34PM

One thing for sure that is positive in our area, without Ocean Lakes influencing the Beach Dristrict, there is near parody and overall better football IMO. There simply aren't any cakewalk early matchups down here this year. The Richmond bracket seems easier again this year. Pretty sure each sectional will crossbracket for the regional Semi-Finals

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 09, 2016 07:14AM

so, down at the beach it's "parody" (sic) while in the North, it's an off year?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ruth Knows ()
Date: November 09, 2016 09:01PM

I used to be a cheerleading coach, but figured I might as well jump in and make my selections. I have been picking at over 85% this year, so you can count on these selections. In fact, if I don't go 6-2 against Steve's points, I will go the the Springfield Mall on Saturday at noon and take a walk in the parking lot topless!


16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0) Braddock covers

15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0) Madison covers



14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0) Westfield covers

13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0) South Lakes covers

12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0) Centreville covers

11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0) South County covers

10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0) West Potomac covers

9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0) Hayfield covers

See how easy that was!
>

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: UeTL3 ()
Date: November 10, 2016 07:12AM

Hampton Roads Wrote:
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> VHSL POWERPOINTS
>
> SMITH = 35.3333
>
> LB = 34.40000
>
> So dispite the SouthEastern District having a
> large mix of 3A to 6A schools, SMITH was able to
> build more power points than Northern VA schools
> that have districts with almost all 6A schools?
> What does that tell you about 757 Football? To me
> it says our small schools would still be very
> competitive against the much larger schools.
>
You do not really understand how the power points work. If you play lower division schools you get an added 2 points per classification as a bonus for playing that school. Example: 6A plays a 4A and wins. They get 22 points for the win over a 4A team, plus 4 bonus points for playing a 4A. That keeps it fair for the 6A team otherwise Smith would never get the same point totals simple because they play in a district with mostly non-6A schools (and then you have to add in bonus points for each win the 4A team had, but that is not part of this issue).

The reason Smith outpointed LB in your example is simply because LB lost a game; it could also be because the opponents combined wins for Smith was slightly higher. It has zero to do with the quality of the lower classification teams other than for their wins, and with Smith playing (what, 9?) conference games their opponents in conference will have very close to a .500 record at the end of the day. The only way you can gain an advantage is if a team plays a bunch of out of district teams with good records and beats them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: smackemaround ()
Date: November 10, 2016 09:22AM

Does anyone in the northern region have a dominant defense this year? I always say defense wins in the playoffs (see Westfield last season), but other than maybe Stone Bridge and Madison it looks like there are no defenses around that can stop or even slow down the best offenses. I mean Lake Braddock has given up nothing this year but SoCo just put 44 on them last week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 10, 2016 03:39PM

smackemaround Wrote:
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> Does anyone in the northern region have a dominant
> defense this year? I always say defense wins in
> the playoffs (see Westfield last season), but
> other than maybe Stone Bridge and Madison it looks
> like there are no defenses around that can stop or
> even slow down the best offenses. I mean Lake
> Braddock has given up nothing this year but SoCo
> just put 44 on them last week.

A healthy Westfield team is very potent on D. Shut down Centreville & shutdown SOCO. But sample size is too small. Besides, great offense will always beat great defense.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Region defenses ()
Date: November 11, 2016 08:50AM

Actually, according to VHSL reference, LB has the best defense statistically in the northern region. Cville is tied with Westfield for 2nd. I know Westfield was missing a starter or two - which would factor into the stats, but so has pretty much everyone else.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5a ()
Date: November 11, 2016 09:18AM

Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against a decent schedule. Least amount of points in entire area...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:23AM

5a Wrote:
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> Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against a
> decent schedule. Least amount of points in entire
> area...

Most points allowed in any single game in 2016:

Broad Run: 21 (Centreville, Briar Woods)
Stone Bridge: 23 (Potomac Falls)
Madison: 34 (Hayfield)
Centreville: 35 (Westfield)
Potomac Falls: 35 (Stone Bridge)
Westfield: 35 (Briar Woods)
South Lakes: 38 (Hayfield)
West Potomac: 40 (West Springfield)
Briar Woods: 41 (Stone Bridge)
Lake Braddock: 44 (South County)
Tuscarora: 44 (Stone Bridge)
South County: 46 (Hayfield)
Hayfield: 50 (South County)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: and now for some bad news ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:45AM

Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is looking at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the chopping block again!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5a<6a ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:45AM

frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> 5a Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Check out Broad Run's defensive stats, against
> a
> > decent schedule. Least amount of points in
> entire
> > area...
>
> Most points allowed in any single game in 2016:
>
> Broad Run: 21 (Centreville, Briar Woods)
> Stone Bridge: 23 (Potomac Falls)
> Madison: 34 (Hayfield)
> Centreville: 35 (Westfield)
> Potomac Falls: 35 (Stone Bridge)
> Westfield: 35 (Briar Woods)
> South Lakes: 38 (Hayfield)
> West Potomac: 40 (West Springfield)
> Briar Woods: 41 (Stone Bridge)
> Lake Braddock: 44 (South County)
> Tuscarora: 44 (Stone Bridge)
> South County: 46 (Hayfield)
> Hayfield: 50 (South County)

How do you have south county scoring 44 on Braddock but failed to list how they gave up 52? Great job by broad run giving up 21 to Centreville, Lake Braddock allowed 8 points against them...Bruin defense has 12 shutouts over the last 3 years.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: So Tired of This Argument ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:26AM

STFU as has been explained multiple times, in extensive detail, Football is the only sport in FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a profit at most schools, which is used to support the rest of the money losing sports.

and now for some bad news Wrote:
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> Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is looking
> at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> chopping block again!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Easy Bruins Fan... ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:33AM

I don't have a horse in this race, but we are not talking about a single game here, bro. Lake Braddock's schedule was full of absolute garbage. Do you think Braddock holds Stone Bridge to 7 points? No, neither does anyone else with a pulse. Seriously, Braddock had a very easy path. And we are not going back and counting shutouts over the past three years - we are talking about defenses THIS year in NOVA. With that being said, Braddock and Broad Run both have outstanding defenses, as does Stone Bridge and Centreville.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ambulance@SouthCounty ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:01PM

911 called and ambulance arrives to South County High School this week to save a football player brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room. Student was found in a pool of blood, skull cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds like your typical Pannoni culture.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:26PM

5a<6a Wrote:
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>
> How do you have south county scoring 44 on
> Braddock but failed to list how they gave up 52?

Because I am a little dyslexic and flipped the score by mistake. You are right of course.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Col. Jessup ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:32PM

Ambulance@SouthCounty Wrote:
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> 911 called and ambulance arrives to South County
> High School this week to save a football player
> brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room.
> Student was found in a pool of blood, skull
> cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds
> like your typical Pannoni culture.

But did he order a Code Red?
Attachments:
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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:52PM

5a<6a Wrote:
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> Bruin defense has 12 shutouts over the last 3 years.

That is a lot of shutouts. Checking back - that is over 4 seasons. Only 1 of them was against a team with a winning record. Four against Woodson. Ouch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 11, 2016 01:00PM

OK. I am bored today. I decided to compare Calpreps rankings with VHSL Reference rankings. Sorted the rankings for all 6A.

Below is how VHSL Reference ranked the 16 6A North playoff teams:
1 Lake Braddock
2 Westfield
4 Centreville
7 West Potomac
8 South County
9 South Lakes
11 Madison
17 Hayfield
21 TC Williams
24 Mount Vernon
25 Oakton
26 Robinson
27 Woodson
28 Patriot
30 Battlefield
34 Washington-Lee

How Calpreps ranked them:
1 Lake Braddock
3 Westfield
5 South County +3
6 West Potomac
7 Madison +3
8 South Lakes
9 Centreville -5
12 Hayfield +5
19 Robinson +7
24 TC Williams -3
25 Woodson
26 Oakton
29 Patriot
30 Mount Vernon -6
32 Battlefield
33 Washington-Lee

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: questionssss ()
Date: November 11, 2016 07:42PM

Lmfao which SoCo kid beat the other kid?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: possible answer ()
Date: November 11, 2016 07:42PM

Probably a nigger beating a white kid.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 11, 2016 08:18PM

Halftime.
Madison 19 W-L 0
West Potomac 14 TC Williams 0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cja ()
Date: November 11, 2016 08:39PM

Hayfield 18 Patriot 19 Early 3rd. If Hayfield had a damn kicker that can make a PAT they'd be up 21-19.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: November 11, 2016 08:48PM

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>
> and now for some bad news Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is
> looking
> > at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> > chopping block again!

It is true, however, one point that you have missed is that in addition to being selfish, self centered and lacking judgment the School Board's liberal majority is vindictive. For that reason and other Title IX reasons (equal participation with large football squads) do not rule it out! Fairfax County royally screwed up last year by not throwing their collective asses out on the street when they had the opportunity!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 11, 2016 09:35PM

Final Madison 26 W-L 2

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:23PM

OK...so the wind in my eyes was so cold I mistook an 8 for a 2...

Madison 26 Washington-Lee 8 (Corrected)
Lake Braddock 35, Robinson 14 Final
South Lakes 54, Oakton 14 Final
South County 34, Battlefield 12
Hayfield 30, Patriot 26
Centreville 57, Mount Vernon 0
West Potomac 26, T.C. Williams 0
Westfield 45, W.T. Woodson 7

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:26PM

Next Games:

Hayfield @ Lake Braddock
Centreville @ South Lakes
South County @ Westfield
West Potomac @ James Madison

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WP Alum ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:09PM

Let's go West Po! Where can I find the location of the West Potomac game??

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: football fan moron ()
Date: November 12, 2016 12:10AM

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>
> and now for some bad news Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since the meals tax did not pass FCPS is
> looking
> > at BIG cuts. Football is potentially on the
> > chopping block again!


(sigh)

It is called the Washington Monument Syndrome. When forced to make cuts, governments will cut popular things. FCPS won't cut the leadership conference, as no one really knows what that it. Oh, but football, everyone knows what that is!

When people say "why did you cut football" FCPS will say "well we were millions and millions in the hole, something had to go, sure wish that meals tax had passed" and there you go.

It is the same reason the libraries have been cut-doing so stirs people up. Now that FCPS' budgetary ass is in the sling, watch for crazy shit to happen!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: November 12, 2016 06:41AM

WP Alum Wrote:
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> Let's go West Po! Where can I find the location of
> the West Potomac game??


It's at Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: TJ Fan ()
Date: November 12, 2016 08:13AM

Pretty impressive win by West Po considering their QB (Ellis) left the game after their 2nd offensive series. Post article mentions a head injury, they will need him against Madison.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Friday Night ()
Date: November 12, 2016 08:21AM

What is the schedule for this Friday?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: How dumb can you be ()
Date: November 12, 2016 04:27PM

Friday Night Wrote:
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> What is the schedule for this Friday?

You're kidding right?
Since the top 8 won the schedule is:

8 @ 1
7 @ 2
6 @ 3
5 @ 4

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: .? ()
Date: November 12, 2016 04:42PM

So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
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> STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes a
> profit at most schools, which is used to support
> the rest of the money losing sports.
>


Do you have a link on that data?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the point is MOOT ()
Date: November 12, 2016 05:44PM

.? Wrote:
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> So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> > extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> > FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes
> a
> > profit at most schools, which is used to
> support
> > the rest of the money losing sports.
> >
>
>
> Do you have a link on that data?

Football will be the target because it will provoke the biggest reaction. No one would care if they stopped teaching "media in society" but oh dear God will they scream when football goes away and the stadiums are dark on Friday nights. Maybe just maybe the residents will decide that if they have to decide between FCPS administration and football, they'll pick FCPS administration!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fcpsspendinganalyst ()
Date: November 12, 2016 09:01PM

FCPS said ELIMINATING sports and activities would save $11 and $12 million respectively for a total of $23 million.

FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016. Eliminating sports and activities would save LESS THAN 1% of the total budget.

What would even be the point? Obviously, sports and activities are not the problem.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck South County ()
Date: November 12, 2016 09:11PM

Ambulance@SouthCounty Wrote:
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> 911 called and ambulance arrives to South County
> High School this week to save a football player
> brutally beaten by his teammate in locker room.
> Student was found in a pool of blood, skull
> cracked open and seizing on the ground. Sounds
> like your typical Pannoni culture.


Let me guess, because he supported Trump? I heard South County was one of the schools kids were getting jumped at because they supported Trump. Smh. Disgraceful.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: you just don't get it ()
Date: November 12, 2016 10:06PM

fcpsspendinganalyst Wrote:
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> FCPS said ELIMINATING sports and activities
> would save $11 and $12 million respectively for a
> total of $23 million.
>
> FCPS spent $2.6 BILLION in FY 2015-2016.
> Eliminating sports and activities would save LESS
> THAN 1% of the total budget.
>
> What would even be the point? Obviously, sports
> and activities are not the problem.

They won't eliminate travel, conferences, workshops, luch meetings, so guess what, no more sports. Live with it. They will be very apologetic and blame all of the assholes who voted against the meals tax.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Auditor ()
Date: November 12, 2016 10:36PM

Drop this:

Ffx public schools cost to educate 1 - pupil $14,432 per year

"Dreamers" estimated in FCPS 8,000

$14432 x 8000= $115,456,000

Unless those kids are Star Football players I found your Budget Defecit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: usc ()
Date: November 13, 2016 05:51AM

South County vs Westfield
Who Wins?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: warhawks ()
Date: November 13, 2016 05:54AM

What are the best QBs left rankings?
statistally, and realistically?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 13, 2016 08:26AM

usc Wrote:
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> South County vs Westfield
> Who Wins?

SOCO will have the new guy at QB the whole game, saw him a couple of times this season, he's pretty impressive. Westfield on the other, will be a lot healthier than they were week 2. It will be a much closer game than the last one (the score is misleading). I know I might be a bit biased but this Westfield team as well as Coach Simmons are too good to lose this early in the post season. They've just been on fire recently, the competition hasn't exactly been tough these past 4 weeks but they've been up by atleast 35 points in all their games before putting in the back ups. In a sense, they've looked like the team that we thought they would be. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if SOCO won but both these teams seem to be going in different directions, and on top of that there's no arguing which team is better coached, more disciplined, and more experienced.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Soco Fan ()
Date: November 13, 2016 09:22AM

It seems there really is no coincidence that the school was built in the shadow of DC's Notorious Prison...Bologne the ill fated Warden and the on-field and locker room mentality is almost identical to the Prison Yard...no loyalty among thieves...the better TEAM wins.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mike J ()
Date: November 13, 2016 09:54AM

Inside info...ex Westfield defensive coach is supplying sick with O and D schemes to crush the,Dixie cup team ....his schemes and soco talent (if they stay disciplined)Will make for a easy win

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ruth Did Well! ()
Date: November 13, 2016 10:32AM

I used to be a cheerleading coach, but figured I might as well jump in and make my selections. I have been picking at over 85% this year, so you can count on these selections. In fact, if I don't go 6-2 against Steve's points, I will go the the Springfield Mall on Saturday at noon and take a walk in the parking lot topless!


16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0) Braddock covers

15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0) Madison covers



14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0) Westfield covers

13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0) South Lakes covers

12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0) Centreville covers

11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0) South County covers

10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0) West Potomac covers

9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0) Hayfield covers


6-2 when you count the pointspreads - 8-0 picking the winners!

Not bad for a girl. Guess you will have to wait until next week to see these beautiful breasts!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck South County ()
Date: November 13, 2016 10:45AM

Soco Fan Wrote:
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> It seems there really is no coincidence that the
> school was built in the shadow of DC's Notorious
> Prison...Bologne the ill fated Warden and the
> on-field and locker room mentality is almost
> identical to the Prison Yard...no loyalty among
> thieves...the better TEAM wins.


I used to go to South County. The prison mentality is definitely there but it doesn't go past mentality. Most of the kids who were there were and more than likely still are complete pussies. Even the Hayfield kids who were there were faggots. They were kids who probably got beat up at Hayfield a lot so they switched to South County in hopes of saving their pussy asses. It was pathetic and it's probably even more pathetic now. South County is a joke if I ever knew one.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Show Tiddy ()
Date: November 13, 2016 10:47AM

Ruth Did Well! Wrote:
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> I used to be a cheerleading coach, but figured I
> might as well jump in and make my selections. I
> have been picking at over 85% this year, so you
> can count on these selections. In fact, if I don't
> go 6-2 against Steve's points, I will go the the
> Springfield Mall on Saturday at noon and take a
> walk in the parking lot topless!
>
>
> 16 Robinson @ 1 Lake Braddock (-10.0) Braddock
> covers
>
> 15 Washington-Lee @ 2 Madison (-21.0) Madison
> covers
>
>
>
> 14 Woodson @ 3 Westfield (-28.0) Westfield
> covers
>
> 13 Oakton @ 4 South Lakes (-14.0) South Lakes
> covers
>
> 12 Mount Vernon @ 5 Centreville (-24.0)
> Centreville covers
>
> 11 Battlefield @ 6 South County (-14.0) South
> County covers
>
> 10 TC Williams @ 7 West Potomac (-20.0) West
> Potomac covers
>
> 9 Patriot @ 8 Hayfield (-10.0) Hayfield covers
>
>
> 6-2 when you count the pointspreads - 8-0 picking
> the winners!
>
> Not bad for a girl. Guess you will have to wait
> until next week to see these beautiful breasts!


Fuck the scores, just show us your tits.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Outside info ()
Date: November 13, 2016 10:57AM

Inside info:

First the Dixie Cuppers are retired...they have their Banners, Rings, Trophy and are off to more Liberal institutions of "Higher" Learning where their actions are not only tolerated, unaccountability is expected, their only short coming, they actually earned their Trophy.

Second, there are no Ex Westfield Coaches, Le Familia, once in, your always in.

Third, Soco is scheming alright, it just isn't with X's and O's

Fourth, Team-Work defeats individual talent every time...

Fifth, Panini Samich Won't Sleep at all this Week

Finally looking forward to West Po vs. South Lakes in Final...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mike J ()
Date: November 13, 2016 01:58PM

Wake up Westfield!!your gay little wanna be club once a bullfag a
Always bullfag is a joke..im not calling out any x coaches but bullfags will need to switch up entire O and D...matter fact breaking down bullfag s O today....motion right run weak side..hit qb once hard and guaranteed he will check out...cry in red cups after team drinks there booze out

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Michael Jackson ()
Date: November 13, 2016 04:50PM

You gotta have someone to hit hard first...your little pocket Hercules LB hit QB hard several times last year he never checked out he just put up 40 and you don't have any one on defense this year like little Napolean. break down all you want..you still have to execute and what the Lorton Crew continuously demonstrates is they can't handle the pressure..Bullfags ran the same play 17 times against you genius's and you and your astute staff FAILED to adjust those poor kids...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: enjoy it while you can ()
Date: November 13, 2016 04:50PM

Unless the Electoral College puts Hillary in, FCPS' finances are a pile of shit right now.

Expect them to CANCEL FOOTBALL in retaliation for the support the meals tax did not get.

When you complain and try to justify football, they will say there is no money and ask how you voted on the meals tax.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck South County ()
Date: November 13, 2016 06:24PM

Outside info Wrote:
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> Inside info:
>
> First the Dixie Cuppers are retired...they have
> their Banners, Rings, Trophy and are off to more
> Liberal institutions of "Higher" Learning where
> their actions are not only tolerated,
> unaccountability is expected, their only short
> coming, they actually earned their Trophy.
>
> Second, there are no Ex Westfield Coaches, Le
> Familia, once in, your always in.
>
> Third, Soco is scheming alright, it just isn't
> with X's and O's
>
> Fourth, Team-Work defeats individual talent every
> time...
>
> Fifth, Panini Samich Won't Sleep at all this Week
>
> Finally looking forward to West Po vs. South Lakes
> in Final...


What's Pannoni up to now?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 13, 2016 07:47PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> usc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South County vs Westfield
> > Who Wins?
>
> SOCO will have the new guy at QB the whole game,
> saw him a couple of times this season, he's pretty
> impressive. Westfield on the other, will be a lot
> healthier than they were week 2. It will be a much
> closer game than the last one (the score is
> misleading). I know I might be a bit biased but
> this Westfield team as well as Coach Simmons are
> too good to lose this early in the post season.
> They've just been on fire recently, the
> competition hasn't exactly been tough these past 4
> weeks but they've been up by atleast 35 points in
> all their games before putting in the back ups. In
> a sense, they've looked like the team that we
> thought they would be. I definitely wouldn't be
> surprised if SOCO won but both these teams seem to
> be going in different directions, and on top of
> that there's no arguing which team is better
> coached, more disciplined, and more experienced.

You pretty much summed it up - Westfield is playing as well as they have all season and they are as healthy as they have been all season. But I'll be honest - the SoCo QB is is on another level compared to any QB they have played against this year. It should be a good one. When I look at the final 8 teams it would not shock me if any of them made it to the regional finals.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: North Region ()
Date: November 13, 2016 08:55PM

Landan Thomas for Madison is damn good for a number 3 running back

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Really, nigga? ()
Date: November 13, 2016 09:07PM

North Region Wrote:
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> Landan Thomas for Madison is damn good for a
> number 3 running back


Colin Kaepernick was also a third string quarterback and he was shit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: KeepYourMouthShut ()
Date: November 14, 2016 01:06PM

Pannoni is telling his players not open their mouths about the player getting jumped and beaten in the locker room last week because they will get him fired. Spoken like a true leader right there.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bad Apples ()
Date: November 14, 2016 01:36PM

And people Wondered why Salisbury left. Honor is earned, thru your deeds and Actions, He understood that.

Criminal charges certain to follow

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: waits ()
Date: November 14, 2016 02:22PM

So did the player get jumped or just get his ass handed to him by another kid?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Getting It Right ()
Date: November 14, 2016 02:40PM

It was 2 fat-Ass lineman wrestling around in the locker room at South County. Both guys fighting were backups, scout teamers. Pannoni is going nowhere. Salisbury left because he sucked and the other guys was better. He couldn't handle it. Honor does't equal quitting on your team and friends. Who was hurt for Westfield in game one? McDaniel only playing 2 quarters and putting up 14 scares the shit out of them.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 14, 2016 05:18PM

Who was hurt for Westfield in game one? McDaniel only playing 2 quarters and putting up 14 scares the shit out of them.

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Two massive starting O-lineman and the better of the two starting RB's. They have a huge line and after watching SOCO's D-line get pushed around by LB it's the Stallions who might be concerned. Also, the QB for WF was what, 1-14 in the first go round. He's been pretty hot down the stretch since they condensed the playbook. Oh yeah, don't think Delaney will miss 3 FG's either this time around. WF won't be afraid, they'll be well prepared and well coached as they've always been under Simmons and crew.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck South County ()
Date: November 14, 2016 07:04PM

I was wondering what happened to Salisbury. I looked at the roster the other night and was shocked to not find his name.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mike J ()
Date: November 14, 2016 07:17PM

Mullet head will definitely choke under pressure and miss 3 again..x Westfield coach mapped out a,easy win for soco...we all know,hit bullfags quarterback and he Will run his mouth and collasp..best of luck to both teams

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: West Po Po ()
Date: November 14, 2016 07:37PM

Will beat Madison. WP has a strong defense and their QB Mark Ellis will start. He got his bell rung against TC Williams, but he is a O tay, and ready to play.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: God Emperor Trump ()
Date: November 14, 2016 11:12PM

My son Barron's probably gonna play football and wreck every faggy fuck on every opposing team just like I did when I ran for president.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the Inside Mikey ()
Date: November 15, 2016 09:38AM

So what your saying is, Bologna isn't smart enough to break down his own film so he is entrusting his fate to a guy who's team finished a laughable 2-8. That's what your going with?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 16, 2016 01:17PM

Is Steve K2 going to put some lines on this week?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: cheerleading coach ()
Date: November 16, 2016 03:51PM

Steve is going to throw the line this week so he can go to Springfield Mall next Monday and See the Ta-Ta's

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: kimmy the Greek ()
Date: November 16, 2016 08:48PM

When the Boys are away kimmy will play
Your lines are as follow:

Hayfield @ Braddock (-6)
Centreville @ South Lakes (-11)
South County (-1) @ Westfield
West Potomac (-5) @ Madison

If any Region Team can keep up with LB it's Hayfields Aerial Attack, a little better Defense and Hayfield Takes it.

Facing one of the most Athletic Teams in the Region Centreville will need an error free game to keep it Close.

We will see how much "inside" information aides Soco against a Rising Westfield

Madison is almost out of Gas..26 against W&L won't work this week.

We are at the point where there are No Suprises..Its Any ones for the Taking!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: November 16, 2016 10:07PM

My predictions

Lake Braddock 42
Hayfield 27

Hayfield hangs in early but I just think Lake Braddock wears them out late. Hayfield's defense hasn't been that great all season.


Centreville 35
South Lakes 22

SL has had one of the easiest paths in recent memory. Very good team but not ready for the big leagues. They were handled by hayfield and the only credible wins were against Briar Woods and Madison in which both teams were missing several key players.


Westfield 35
South County 12

The Westfield train is rolling at the right time and I expect them to take care of business.

West Potomac 21
Madison 14

This is my upset pick of the week. I think West Po is a very live dog to win the entire region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Nova10 ()
Date: November 17, 2016 10:14AM

Centreville in a blowout. South Lakes really does not have as many athletes as people think if you watch them play. (-11) is a ridiculous spread.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: get ready to eat it ()
Date: November 17, 2016 10:17AM

Meals tax did not pass, FCPS needs to pay for an interim auditor and is about to do a nationwide search for a new superintendent. Cash is tight, football cuts are coming!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: buu66 ()
Date: November 17, 2016 01:47PM

give it up naked picture anti-football anti-FCPS anti-tax troll. I spoke to my school board member about this just last week and it has not been discussed - even informally.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: liar liar pants on fire ()
Date: November 17, 2016 08:29PM

buu66 Wrote:
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> give it up naked picture anti-football anti-FCPS
> anti-tax troll. I spoke to my school board member
> about this just last week and it has not been
> discussed - even informally.


School board members have been known to lie. They will time the announcement to minimize blowback.

But the cuts ARE coming.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Concession Stands ()
Date: November 17, 2016 08:34PM

Do they accept EBT cards? Serious question.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: November 17, 2016 10:30PM

get ready to eat it Wrote:
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> Meals tax did not pass, FCPS needs to pay for an
> interim auditor and is about to do a nationwide
> search for a new superintendent. Cash is tight,
> football cuts are coming!


Cuts to football will be raised as a possibility because it creates press which is one thing that the School Board craves, particularly when they can use it to publicize their so called plight. The problem is that it will go no further than that because they ALL know that to make dramatic cuts to athletics would not only mean the end of their current position but the end of their political career. Also, football is for the most part is self supporting and is the foundation for most of the school's fund raising campaigns that support all athletics.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: UFwxL ()
Date: November 17, 2016 11:48PM

should cut sports out of schools

nothing to do with education and a waste of money

let some private companies set up sport leagues

no one on this thread will understand, but it makes complete sense

a solid education before anything else is why the rest of the world has crushed us

those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jj43U ()
Date: November 17, 2016 11:59PM

.? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So Tired of This Argument Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STFU as has been explained multiple times, in
> > extensive detail, Football is the only sport in
> > FCPS that is self supporting and in fact makes
> a
> > profit at most schools, which is used to
> support
> > the rest of the money losing sports.
> >
>
>
> Do you have a link on that data?


no because it is false

they think selling popcorn covers the costs

take the 15 million cuts and add all personnel surrounding sports, facilities, insurances....sell the facilities to a private sports league and you are looking are 100 million+ cut in expenses + additional income from the private sector wanting to build these sports leagues and offering a % of their profits to the schools

parents will still shell out the $$ so little bobby and Susie can play their sports

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Auditor ()
Date: November 18, 2016 05:47AM

Cost to Educate Student FCPS $14,500

Dreamers in FCPS 12,500

Cost $ 181,250,000.00

Football and all other Sports Stay Sorry!

Enjoy your meals, Enjoy your Friday Nights the real conversation is being had.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 18, 2016 06:48AM

Hayfield @ Lake Braddock (-7.0)

Centreville @ South Lakes (-6.0)

South County @ Westfield (-3.0)

West Potomac @ Madison (-1.0)

These are great games, I can honestly see each one going either way. Makes for an exciting 3 weeks of playoffs coming up. There will be an upset tonight, I feel pretty confident saying.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: vjmwT ()
Date: November 18, 2016 07:23AM

UFwxL Wrote:
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> should cut sports out of schools
>
> nothing to do with education and a waste of money
>
> let some private companies set up sport leagues
>
> no one on this thread will understand, but it
> makes complete sense
>
> a solid education before anything else is why the
> rest of the world has crushed us
>
> those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit

No - I do understand your argument and you have a point. But you are in a tiny minority who think this way. You fail to understand that most people realize that there are additional costs - but they want they want sports and activities in high school. There are many social benefits to having athletics associated with schools. It is the American way and has been that way for well over 100 years. In general, we are not "getting crushed" by the world. That is a stupid statement. And the schools that are failing us are not that way because of athletics and no amount of money would fix the problem anyway.

And as an aside, I was talking to some foreign exchange students about this very issue in the last month - they love the American school club/sports/activity scene. It is much more egalitarian than in other countries where only wealthy people get to be involved in sports and activities, and it makes high school a much more enjoyable and varied experience. To a person they all said they wish their countries did it the way the USA does it.

Bottom line is only an anti-American Communist would try to eliminate sports from high school.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: try again, Biff ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:16AM

vjmwT Wrote:
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> UFwxL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > should cut sports out of schools
> >
> > nothing to do with education and a waste of
> money
> >
> > let some private companies set up sport leagues
> >
> > no one on this thread will understand, but it
> > makes complete sense
> >
> > a solid education before anything else is why
> the
> > rest of the world has crushed us
> >
> > those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit
>
> No - I do understand your argument and you have a
> point. But you are in a tiny minority who think
> this way. You fail to understand that most people
> realize that there are additional costs - but they
> want they want sports and activities in high
> school. There are many social benefits to having
> athletics associated with schools. It is the
> American way and has been that way for well over
> 100 years. In general, we are not "getting
> crushed" by the world. That is a stupid
> statement. And the schools that are failing us
> are not that way because of athletics and no
> amount of money would fix the problem anyway.
>
> And as an aside, I was talking to some foreign
> exchange students about this very issue in the
> last month - they love the American school
> club/sports/activity scene. It is much more
> egalitarian than in other countries where only
> wealthy people get to be involved in sports and
> activities, and it makes high school a much more
> enjoyable and varied experience. To a person they
> all said they wish their countries did it the way
> the USA does it.
>
> Bottom line is only an anti-American Communist
> would try to eliminate sports from high school.

Football is elitist. What % of students actually play it? These massive facilities (specifically, turf fields) exist for the benefit of these privileged, entitled few.

If you want to save football, and other high school activities, get out your checkbook, you're going to start to have paying for them.

The failure of the meals tax marks the beginning of a new era at FCPS!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: back to the future ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:22AM

I am an elitist, already open my Check book and fund raise to the Toon of Thousands of $$$$$ that's why WE Win you little Whiny Bitch, now Strap on your Safety pin and suck your thumb while our Kids do their Elitist S**T!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Ummm... No. ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:27AM

UFwxL Wrote:
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> should cut sports out of schools
>
> nothing to do with education and a waste of money
>
> let some private companies set up sport leagues
>
> no one on this thread will understand, but it
> makes complete sense
>
> a solid education before anything else is why the
> rest of the world has crushed us
>
> those "fund raising campaigns" do not do shit


Ummm... No.

sports are no more dragging down our shitty academic performance as is band or theater. It's crap like common core, social engineering, non-English speaking 3rd worlders flooding our systems, teaching to the lowest common denominator, schools becoming babysitters, one parent households and the basic breakdown of our overall society that is causing our schools to suck. Public schools reflect their communities and most of our communities suck compared to 30 years ago. Sorry, it's just science.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what's the %? ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:52AM

How many kids actually get to play football? Something tells me the % is actually pretty small, that kind of bolsters the argument about its lack of inclusiveness.

More grist for the mill.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Facts Baby ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:04AM

In the US 55-63% of students participate in school sports depending on their grade level. Of all the things that schools do after school sports and activities are by far the most cost effective. More than half of the kids are involved and they are much less expensive than any elective class or non-mandated course. If you really want to save money cut the HS from 7 classes to 6. Cutting sports won't solve any long term budget issues.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: VwMck ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:56AM

> Ummm... No wrote:
>
> sports are no more dragging down our shitty
> academic performance as is band or theater. It's
> crap like common core, social engineering,
> non-English speaking 3rd worlders flooding our
> systems, teaching to the lowest common
> denominator, schools becoming babysitters, one
> parent households and the basic breakdown of our
> overall society that is causing our schools to
> suck. Public schools reflect their communities
> and most of our communities suck compared to 30
> years ago. Sorry, it's just science.

Bingo! Very well said.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Seriously??? ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:57AM

Seriously, have you ever even looked at the research about the positive correlation sports and student activities have on academic achievement and school culture. In one of the articles listed below you will see that 55% of High School students participate in sports! Whether you like sports or not they are an extremely important part of High School.

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/10-reasons-why-high-school-sports-benefit-students

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/21/taking-sports-out-of-school-2/high-school-athletes-gain-lifetime-benefits

http://www.rcga.org/_uploads/documents/L2P/EN/pg_016-017_Why%20is%20sport%20important%20for%20children_.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/physicalactivity/toolkit/factsheet_pa_guidelines_schools.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/how-sports-can-help-high-schools/2011/09/17/gIQANs6EaK_blog.html

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: I'd still like to see numbers ()
Date: November 18, 2016 11:09AM

What % of students play sports? What provisions, if any, are made for disabled students?

NYT and WaPO will print anything the liberals tell them to, so they are hardly reliable sources.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Seriously??? ()
Date: November 18, 2016 12:03PM

Maybe you will like this two sources a little better. It states the same numbers and the Washington Post and New York Times.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/high-school-notes/2011/09/02/high-school-sports-participation-increases-for-22nd-straight-year


http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

And here is an article addressing your question about students with disabilities.

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/developing-school-sports-programs-for-students-with-disabilities/

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PxNjJ ()
Date: November 18, 2016 04:17PM

try again, Biff Wrote:
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> Football is elitist. What % of students actually
> play it? These massive facilities (specifically,
> turf fields) exist for the benefit of these
> privileged, entitled few.

Just stop talking about things you know nothing about. The sports facilities at most schools are being used practically 24-7 by a huge variety of local sports associations and clubs many of whom where involved in helping to pay for them (i.e. the turf fields).

To answer your question there about 14,000 high school football teams in the USA with approximately 1 million kids. Rough numbers. What difference does that make any way? You really don't know anything about the players either if you think it is an elitist sport. They come from all communities and neighborhoods rich and poor.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: ......... ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:22PM

Hayfield gets wacked by Lake Braddock 42-0.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:37PM

Westfield: 20
South County: 3

Start of 4th quarter

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mister Seahawk ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:46PM

South Lakes 22
Centreville 20

Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with about a minute left to preserve the win.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:51PM

Mister Seahawk Wrote:
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> South Lakes 22
> Centreville 20
>
> Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with about
> a minute left to preserve the win.

Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was handed the game. A horrible safety was called on Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those two points, and Centreville would of probably one with an extra point.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Observer ()
Date: November 18, 2016 09:54PM

Westfield Wrote:
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> Westfield: 20
> South County: 3
>
> Start of 4th quarter


Looks like the games almost over and the score remains the same. I couldn't go but wow, SOCO held to 3 points? This Westfield D is legit.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: looked different live ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:01PM

Westfield Fan Wrote:
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> Mister Seahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes 22
> > Centreville 20
> >
> > Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with
> about
> > a minute left to preserve the win.
>
> Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was
> handed the game. A horrible safety was called on
> Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those
> two points, and Centreville would of probably one
> with an extra point.


It didn't look so horrible live, the QB was obviously throwing it away to avoid a sack in the end zone. No he wasn't outside the tackle box and no there wasn't anyone for either team close to where he threw it.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Mr. Warhawk ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:10PM

Final:
Madison 21
West Potomac 14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:11PM

looked different live Wrote:
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> Westfield Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mister Seahawk Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > South Lakes 22
> > > Centreville 20
> > >
> > > Seahawks stop Centreville's 2-point PAT with
> > about
> > > a minute left to preserve the win.
> >
> > Saw a video online, looks like South Lakes was
> > handed the game. A horrible safety was called
> on
> > Centreville. SLakes shouldn't have gotten those
> > two points, and Centreville would of probably
> one
> > with an extra point.
>
>
> It didn't look so horrible live, the QB was
> obviously throwing it away to avoid a sack in the
> end zone. No he wasn't outside the tackle box and
> no there wasn't anyone for either team close to
> where he threw it.

https://twitter.com/rebelrunsports/status/799794555109474304

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: looked different live ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:20PM

I guess the refs were all up in the stands watching the game with me.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:27PM

So number 21 was there. He slipped. Watch the video again.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:32PM

Not taking anything away from SL but man there was a lot of penalties on Cville and they couldn't stop the slant pass. No adjustments made. Some questionable offensive play calling for Cville. .

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:33PM

Went to the Hayfield - Lake Braddock game tonight. I was walking
the sidelines watching the game when, at the urging of the School photographer, The Hayfield student section broke into a chant of "F... Donald Trump" -- something you might witness at a game in Maryland. No school officials on hand to discourage the embarrassing behavior. Hayfield parents must be very proud of their little brats. Class.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: even worse ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:40PM

Even worse was the delay of game call on the two point conversation - how does the ref make that overly officious call in that situation?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: iwasthere ()
Date: November 18, 2016 10:40PM

Football Observer Wrote:
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> Westfield Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield: 20
> > South County: 3
> >
> > Start of 4th quarter
>
>
> Looks like the games almost over and the score
> remains the same. I couldn't go but wow, SOCO held
> to 3 points? This Westfield D is legit.

SoCo offense was unable to break through even once. Simay the only player on their team. McDaniels, Spalding, Dunn AWOL. SoCo student section vulgar, SoCo coaches incompetent, SoCo fans rude, SoCo players dirty and undisciplined. Same old story.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Was there too ()
Date: November 19, 2016 12:29AM

They had 12 men on the field, no delay of game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cvhk ()
Date: November 19, 2016 12:56AM

nufan Wrote:
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> So number 21 was there. He slipped. Watch the
> video again.

21 was no where near the pass. It was thrown near ineligible 66, but no eligible players within 20 yards.

There may be a case for the QB not being in the end zone though.

And "was there too" was right, Centreville lined up for 2 with 12 players on the field. There were no delay penalties called in the game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bad Refs ()
Date: November 19, 2016 08:31AM

Refs were horrendous in the SL cville game. Bad calls on both sides. Notable bad calls: Cville throws a bubble behind the line of scrimmage. Clearly two yards behind the receiver. South lakes picked it up and would have scored easily but the refs blew it dead. Took a TD away from SL. Also, it was intentional grounding but he was not in the end zone so it should not have been a safety. At least it was bad for both teams. Many more bad spots and missed calls all through the game. Very frustrating as a neutral fan. That crew was horrible.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 19, 2016 08:32AM

20 yards???????

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: no Dog ()
Date: November 19, 2016 09:32AM

No Dog in this Game, However that Safety call was horrendous, QB standing at the try Hash, 2yards outside end zone when he released that Ball..That is absurd..That Crew should be Done, a game of that Magnitude and you miss that call by that much pathetic.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 19, 2016 09:43AM

The sad thing about the refs is that they are promoted to do these games based on performance. Another is that there are 3 more on the field during playoffs. I saw several flags that were waved off after a zebra conference.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Refs ()
Date: November 19, 2016 09:57AM

The prevailing problem with the officials in this area is that they over officiate everything. They are way too eager to make the game about them rather than letting the kids play. Too many flags are thrown for things that don't happen or are very questionable. They should call personal fouls, holding only when people are getting tackled, and obvious pass interference. Let the rest go because they've proven that their judgement is terrible.
I was at the SL vs CV game last night and I saw a ton of bad calls both ways. I don't the officials were unfair. They were just very poor.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: leavetherefsalone ()
Date: November 19, 2016 12:06PM

Leave the officials alone. They do the best they can and we are fortunate to have them. Bad/Questionable calls are part of every game at every level and sport regardless of training and/or salaries. It is just the way it is. If you have a call go against you - just move on.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Thanks wife ()
Date: November 19, 2016 03:30PM

Thanks honey for standing up for your fat ass referee husband

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: refs congress ()
Date: November 19, 2016 05:01PM

The refs in the West Po-Madison game needed a five-minute huddle to sort out nearly every call. If they don't know the rules, they shouldn't throw as many flags.Just keep the game moving, under control, and make sure nothing outrageous is allowed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 19, 2016 06:03PM

Yes, there was quite a flurry of flags for a while there in the South County Westfield game also (SC 8-95, WFD 7-50). I'm not sure they all *had* to be called but I didn't think any were flat out wrong. But before you get too worked up read this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/a-referee-shortage-brings-thursday-night-lights-to-northern-virginia-football/2016/10/06/129e0fc4-8b49-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html?tid=a_inl#comments

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Refs ()
Date: November 20, 2016 12:59AM

I agree that the refs have a very tough job and I think they are all great guys. The only thing I think they need to do is be less involved. Whoever is in charge of the officials simply needs to make a directive that they only need to make obvious calls. I've watched high school football in five different states and NOVA had the most penalties of all of them. I think the game would be much better served if the officials backed off a little. Again, I don't think anyone needs punished, but the mentality of the officlas needs a slight alteration to make the games more player focused. As a fan of high school football, I think all parties would benefit from that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fuck South County ()
Date: November 20, 2016 01:02AM

iwasthere Wrote:
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> Football Observer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Westfield: 20
> > > South County: 3
> > >
> > > Start of 4th quarter
> >
> >
> > Looks like the games almost over and the score
> > remains the same. I couldn't go but wow, SOCO
> held
> > to 3 points? This Westfield D is legit.
>
> SoCo offense was unable to break through even
> once. Simay the only player on their team.
> McDaniels, Spalding, Dunn AWOL. SoCo student
> section vulgar, SoCo coaches incompetent, SoCo
> fans rude, SoCo players dirty and undisciplined.
> Same old story.

South County has always been shit. The only team consistently worse than them is West Springfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RetiredRef ()
Date: November 20, 2016 08:20AM

nufan Wrote:
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> The sad thing about the refs is that they are
> promoted to do these games based on performance.
> Another is that there are 3 more on the field
> during playoffs. I saw several flags that were
> waved off after a zebra conference.

Wow, when you don't know what you are talking about the best thing to do is shut up.

The NVFOA does NOT assign refs to the playoffs based on their caliber - they assign them based on "loyalty" i.e. those that refed the most Frosh/JV games. So there were some weaker refs in the playoffs solely because their real jobs allowed them to ref on Thursday nights- while a few really good refs were benched because they couldn't or wouldn't call Frosh/JV games.

You're also wrong about the number of refs - there are TWO more refs during playoffs - 5-man crew in regular season, 7-man crew in playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Retired for a reason ()
Date: November 20, 2016 09:29AM

Glad the resident expert stepped up to clarify the past week's debacle. So in their defense had their been 8 sets of eyes on the field instead of 7 they would have clearly been able to get tell the difference between the 2 yard line and an end zone that was painted a completely different color than the playing field ( see attached video above)

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RetiredRef ()
Date: November 20, 2016 09:41AM

Is English your second language?

I did not even discuss or reference the call(s) nor defend any refs, I just corrected the record that:

1) The BEST refs are not who call the play-offs and
2) They use 7-man crews for playoff's

Concerning the call in question, the white-hat clearly miscalled the safety, in fact, I would not have called grounding as #21 was more than close enough to the ball. OBTW there is no "outside the tackle box" salvation in NFHS rules.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: retired for a reasonb ()
Date: November 20, 2016 12:15PM

In typical Authoritarian style the first thing the power hungry official Does is "Attack" over clearly an auto-correct " is English your second Language" Its not about YOU! Hateful Power Hungry has been!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: nufan ()
Date: November 20, 2016 04:45PM

Wether it's 2 or 3... they still mess up. And why would one ref tell me that playoff games are rewarded based on performance...being promoted to do so. So I based my comment on that. But if you feel I need to shut up then that's your opinion. Guess your one of those refs that makes all the right calls.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 21, 2016 10:06AM

Saturday games.

I will pick Lake Braddock over South Lakes. They seem to be getting stronger and I just don't see that South Lakes has enough to pull off an upset. I think it will be a blowout actually.

I also will pick Madison over Westfield. I agree with some talk I have heard that Madison and Westfield are heading in opposite directions right now but... I was at the Stone Bridge-Madison and the Stone Bridge-Westfield games. And what I saw with my own eyes two months ago is enough for me. Madison just seems like a tougher harder-nosed team. I think this game will be close though.

Curious what everyone else thinks...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 21, 2016 12:16PM

Saturday games.

I will pick Lake Braddock over South Lakes. They seem to be getting stronger and I just don't see that South Lakes has enough to pull off an upset. I think it will be a blowout actually.

I also will pick Madison over Westfield. I agree with some talk I have heard that Madison and Westfield are heading in opposite directions right now but... I was at the Stone Bridge-Madison and the Stone Bridge-Westfield games. And what I saw with my own eyes two months ago is enough for me. Madison just seems like a tougher harder-nosed team. I think this game will be close though.

Curious what everyone else thinks...

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree with your Lake Braddock pick, don't think South Lakes will be able to stop LB's rushing attack. Centreville very well could have and maybe even should have won the game. LB just might get over the hump and make it to championship game this year, who knows.

I think Westfield beats Madison though, the talk of both teams going opposite directions may have been health related. While I don't know much about Madison, Westfield has all but 1 starter back at full strength. I also think WF shrinking the playbook for their offense heading into the Centreville contest weeks ago paid off. Westfield's offense has been pretty productive since then and their defense has gone with different formations and done much more blitzing. The other key factor is WF is playing their best players both ways which they do come playoff time. Not the entire game but enough in key situations to help boost either side of the ball. To hold SOCO's explosive offense to just 3 points says a lot about how the D is playing right know.

Just my thoughts...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 21, 2016 12:18PM

"right now" not know.

Sorry......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FYI, Bishop Sullivan & Chris Sco ()
Date: November 21, 2016 04:48PM

FYI, Richard Hine, the AD at Bishop Sullivan has been fired. He hired the controversial Ocean Lakes Coach, Chris Scott. Bishop Sullivan has no post season due to non compliance with TCIS & VISAA league rules. Could there be more bad news for the kids that have chosen to be loyal to him?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WARHAWKS ()
Date: November 21, 2016 04:53PM

WARHAWK FOOTBALL- A Vienna tradition!! I welcome all the Westfield fans and players to VIENNA on Saturday, before the WARHAWKS take down the Bulldogs! MAD Football takes this game 21-14 in a thriller! Coach Schulz will have our WARHAWKS ready for Saturday and we're taking no prisoners! Come out and see what a REAL HS football game is like, and come out and cheer on the WARHAWKS!!
The Concorde district can get a preview of how good the WARHAWKS will be! BLOAKTON already found out, and Westfield will be next!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:09PM

This will be become a regular occurrence next year when Madison moves west into the conference with Westfield with the redistricting.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 31 feet ()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:48PM

Whoever plays Lake Braddock needs to keep a close eye on their chain crew. They have a habit of setting the chains in front of the down marker. Turns your 1st & 10 into 1st & 10.5.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 21, 2016 05:58PM

WARHAWKS Wrote:
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> WARHAWK FOOTBALL- A Vienna tradition!! I welcome
> all the Westfield fans and players to VIENNA on
> Saturday, before the WARHAWKS take down the
> Bulldogs! MAD Football takes this game 21-14 in a
> thriller! Coach Schulz will have our WARHAWKS
> ready for Saturday and we're taking no prisoners!
> Come out and see what a REAL HS football game is
> like, and come out and cheer on the WARHAWKS!!
> The Concorde district can get a preview of how
> good the WARHAWKS will be! BLOAKTON already found
> out, and Westfield will be next!!

Madison plays in Liberty and played on of the worst Concorde teams. If anything Westfield will give y'all a nice warm welcome to big boy football. This is when Westfield starts getting really good. Ask LB and SOCO what happen last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 21, 2016 07:33PM

WARHAWKS Wrote:
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> WARHAWK FOOTBALL- A Vienna tradition!! I welcome
> all the Westfield fans and players to VIENNA on
> Saturday, before the WARHAWKS take down the
> Bulldogs! MAD Football takes this game 21-14 in a
> thriller! Coach Schulz will have our WARHAWKS
> ready for Saturday and we're taking no prisoners!
> Come out and see what a REAL HS football game is
> like, and come out and cheer on the WARHAWKS!!
> The Concorde district can get a preview of how
> good the WARHAWKS will be! BLOAKTON already found
> out, and Westfield will be next!!

Now that's cool invitation! It is true Madison football has been around a lot longer than Westfield. I have always heard good things about the Warhawks from some oldtimers - telling stories about the "good old days" in the 70s. However, I would like to think Westfield has seen it's share of REAL HS football as well. Good Luck and see you Saturday!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WARHAWKS ()
Date: November 21, 2016 08:30PM

westfielddadx2 Wrote:
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> WARHAWKS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WARHAWK FOOTBALL- A Vienna tradition!! I
> welcome
> > all the Westfield fans and players to VIENNA on
> > Saturday, before the WARHAWKS take down the
> > Bulldogs! MAD Football takes this game 21-14 in
> a
> > thriller! Coach Schulz will have our WARHAWKS
> > ready for Saturday and we're taking no
> prisoners!
> > Come out and see what a REAL HS football game
> is
> > like, and come out and cheer on the WARHAWKS!!
> > The Concorde district can get a preview of how
> > good the WARHAWKS will be! BLOAKTON already
> found
> > out, and Westfield will be next!!
>
> Now that's cool invitation! It is true Madison
> football has been around a lot longer than
> Westfield. I have always heard good things about
> the Warhawks from some oldtimers - telling stories
> about the "good old days" in the 70s. However, I
> would like to think Westfield has seen it's share
> of REAL HS football as well. Good Luck and see
> you Saturday!!

Absolutely!! I invite all and every Bulldog fan to come along this Saturday to watch the WARHAWKS and Westfield play! This is one of the biggest WARHAWK games in the history of MAD HS, and the crowds should exceed well into the thousands!! Go WARHAWKS, Make VIENNA proud!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Passing Time ()
Date: November 22, 2016 12:14PM

While we wait for this weekend's games, let's discuss something new. Job openings. Any rumors on what schools will be firing / hiring new HC's? Any schools under performing that should be better than they are? And no, this isn't a time for you to complain about how your coach doesn't play you or your son. Actual discussion please.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: RumorMill ()
Date: November 22, 2016 12:52PM

I'm hearing that coaching changes will occur at Chantilly and Edison.

If this happens to be the year Lake Braddock takes it all, don't be surprised to see Lalli hang it up.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD RULES ()
Date: November 22, 2016 12:53PM

only thing that matters is Westfield is the greatest team of all time and will surely win again this year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HS football watcher ()
Date: November 22, 2016 02:04PM

Passing Time Wrote:
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> While we wait for this weekend's games, let's
> discuss something new. Job openings. Any rumors
> on what schools will be firing / hiring new HC's?
> Any schools under performing that should be better
> than they are? And no, this isn't a time for you
> to complain about how your coach doesn't play you
> or your son. Actual discussion please.


No change at the head coach level but it looks like every other coaching position at Mount Vernon is open. As far as the conference/district changes for next year it doesn't look like Madison's move to the Concorde (or whatever they'll call it now) isn't the football death sentence it looked like it would be when it was announced.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Tuscarora Seeking? ()
Date: November 22, 2016 04:23PM

Someone from inside circle says that Burnett and his crew are considering leaving Tuscarora.

If true, whoever takes over is LOADED with talent for the next two years.

Good thing Fairfax doesn't have to play Loudoun anymore!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Dumbdumdb ()
Date: November 22, 2016 05:13PM

Westfield Rules...great to see the South County loyalist have progressed through the stages of Grief to acceptance!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: hmm ()
Date: November 22, 2016 05:43PM

Lake Braddock over South Lakes.
Westfield over Madison.

Stone Bridge over Brooke Point in D5 Semis.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: and then... ()
Date: November 22, 2016 05:44PM

Lake Braddock over Westfield. Doesn't matter who wins, Oscar Smith wins it all.
Stone Bridge will go to the D5 final and lose to either Hampton or Highlanr Springs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: oooooo now you've done it ()
Date: November 22, 2016 05:59PM

Oooooooo now you've done it. Here comes the wholesale generalization that ALL 757 schools are cheaters. Most all the 703 is in denial that the poor kids at Smith could make it to the State game so often without shenanigans. Here it comes 3...... 2......1

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: actually.. ()
Date: November 22, 2016 06:38PM

I actually don't give a fuck at all lol i'm calling it how i see it. Good for the 757 niggers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: touchy touchy ()
Date: November 22, 2016 07:36PM

I doubt anyone in 757 cares what touchy.. touchy... "Actually" thinks but by your remarks, it looks like those poor little Smith ballers DO KINDA bother you. Typical troll with transference issues! But go ahead & keep trolling on FFU instead of doing your homework. Then, one day you can go to work for one of our 757 ballers but don't complain about your minimum wage job because the world is full of losers that just don't get it & you'll be easily replaced.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Lol^ ()
Date: November 22, 2016 08:53PM

I bet this guy above me is a nigger or a liberal. No shit Oscar Smith is the best team in Virginia.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what? ()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:32PM

What?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: what? ()
Date: November 22, 2016 09:39PM

When you start seeing brain on your index finger, your supposed to stop digging for buggers

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Why? ()
Date: November 22, 2016 11:03PM

Tusky and Chantilly are both surprising. Any ideas why?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HSwatcher ()
Date: November 23, 2016 08:47AM

I don't think there is a problem at Mt. Vernon - I just think they are trying to add more coaches to the staff and I heard the coach was just moving some of the younger level guys up - I think they only had 8 coaches on staff and the new coach wants around 15...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Conf 7 Guy ()
Date: November 23, 2016 09:57AM

HSwatcher Wrote:
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> I don't think there is a problem at Mt. Vernon - I
> just think they are trying to add more coaches to
> the staff and I heard the coach was just moving
> some of the younger level guys up - I think they
> only had 8 coaches on staff and the new coach
> wants around 15...

They didn't have a freshmen staff at all, it was done by the JV coaches. That's tough to pull off.

15 would be ridiculous, though.

Ever see a DeMatha team photo? 22 coaches. You could have a left guard coach, a right guard coach, a left CB coach, a right CB coach . . .

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: jojowhite ()
Date: November 23, 2016 10:04PM

Braddock and Westfield, although it'd be great to see SL or Madison score an upset.

Madison's defense looked shaky as hell in the first half of the West Po game. Facing a second-string QB making his first start, they gave up two TD passes (one called back) and a long TD run. They tightened up in the second half, but I think a healthy West Po wins that game nine times out of 10.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: HSF ()
Date: November 24, 2016 03:02PM

Healthy Madison team wins by 30

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 24, 2016 03:14PM

HSF Wrote:
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> Healthy Madison team wins by 30


Against West Potomac... right? You better not be talking about Westfield.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Knower ()
Date: November 25, 2016 04:44PM

Local games are pretty simple this week....

Stone Bridge over Brooke Point

Massaponax over Potomac Falls

Braddock over South Lakes

Woodgrove over Dominion

Only one that is giving me some trouble is Westfield at Madison.

Going to pick Westfield in a nod to coaching staff more than anything else.

And trust me, no love for Westfield here - my kid's team actually beat them this year, but they do seem to get better in the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: footballveteran ()
Date: November 25, 2016 05:13PM

The Knower Wrote:
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> Only one that is giving me some trouble is
> Westfield at Madison.
>
> Going to pick Westfield in a nod to coaching staff
> more than anything else.
>
> And trust me, no love for Westfield here - my
> kid's team actually beat them this year, but they
> do seem to get better in the playoffs.

I am with you on this one. I have been suspicious that Westfield has been borderline deliberately under-performing during the regular season. Messing around with stupid playcalling and personnel decisions. Then they ramp it up during the playoffs. If they had given the same level of attention and effort as they did against Centreville and South County they would be undefeated. Well, except for maybe Stone Bridge.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 25, 2016 08:10PM

Let's hope in all these games that the officials only call those flags that are necessary, not taking the game away from the kids, and just let them play!

...it is a hope...sadly, not a certainty...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bright dea ()
Date: November 25, 2016 09:01PM

You know some fat ass is going to throw a holding flag into the center of the line when the play is already 20 yards down field...as well I hope they walk the field before hand and identify where exactly the Endzone(s) start and stop we don't need to re-visit the Centreville debacle

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 5a ()
Date: November 26, 2016 01:40PM

Stone Bridge 20 Brooke Point 7 End 1Q.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 26, 2016 01:44PM

Madison 7 Westfield 7 @7:34 1Q

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: @some ideas ()
Date: November 26, 2016 01:49PM

i'm here at Brooke Point and SB is destroying them. 28-7. Who do you think will win WF or Madison?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Polk High ()
Date: November 26, 2016 01:49PM

I was the best!

FOUR Touchdowns in a single game!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 26, 2016 02:56PM

Madison 13 Westfield 14 Half
South Lakes 19 Lake Braddock 7 Half

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: if i had to predict.. ()
Date: November 26, 2016 03:08PM

south lakes & stone bridge will move on, westfield & madison too close to call. can't wait to watch them play each other regularly starting next year

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Smh what ()
Date: November 26, 2016 03:28PM

Wow! South lakes is killing Braddock 33-7.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:09PM

WARHAWK FOOTBALL- A Vienna tradition!! I welcome all the Westfield fans and players to VIENNA on Saturday, before the WARHAWKS take down the Bulldogs! MAD Football takes this game 21-14 in a thriller! Coach Schulz will have our WARHAWKS ready for Saturday and we're taking no prisoners! Come out and see what a REAL HS football game is like, and come out and cheer on the WARHAWKS!!
The Concorde district can get a preview of how good the WARHAWKS will be! BLOAKTON already found out, and Westfield will be next!!

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Yeah right, WARHAWK FOOTBALL just got a BULLDOG BEATDOWN!

That's what it's going to look like for years to come as well.

Welcome to the Concorde District!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: bulldawggy ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:10PM

Any update on Westfield / Madison score???

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Wins ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:13PM

Westfield wins 31-13

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:32PM

Madison's #1 receiver Nick Conforti broke his collarbone in 2nd Qtr.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Yeah OK ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:45PM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Madison's #1 receiver Nick Conforti broke his
> collarbone in 2nd Qtr.

Yeah, that explains the turnovers and crappy defense...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 04:50PM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> Madison's #1 receiver Nick Conforti broke his
> collarbone in 2nd Qtr.

Wasn't aware he played defense and special teams, too.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WESTFIELD IS THE BEST ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:06PM

Is there ever any doubt Westfield simply is superior to everyone else, always have been and always will be.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:17PM

Pfffttt...

Westfield's offense was basically three big plays and a really, really good kicker...not really a complete game, simply a W.

Good luck w/ that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:23PM

Very impressive performance by South Lakes this week. They have a nice team with a healthy balance of juniors and seniors. What's even more impressive was that it was the most important game in South Lakes recent history, and the one next week will no doubt be it's most important. For a team and coaching staff with such little playoff experience this is very impressive. Unfortunately for the community and the school however, I think they have a very small window for a championship. If they want to win States I think they'll have to do it either this year or next year, I can't see them contending once their loaded class of '18 graduates. Sadly, I see them losing to Westfield next week. I've only watched South Lakes twice this season but it seems to me that the teams strength is their two RBs and their QBs running ability. I just can't see them doing damage to that Westfield front 7, or that Westfield defense in general. They shutdown Madison in the second half, shut down Centreville, and shut down South County, two of which I believe have better offenses than that of South Lakes. Additionally I think the Westfield receivers and QB will be too much for the South Lakes secondary to handle. I see Westfield winning 35-24 or somewhere along those lines.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Fun Fact ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:30PM

Rehman Johnson is now tied with Mike & Sean Glennon with his 6th playoff win as the Westfield starting QB. Crazy to think that he might finish his career with more wins or more rings than them. Very impressive player, not as dominant, but then again, he doesn't have the same receivers.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Facts don't Sway ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:35PM

Thanks Mr. Johnson, not that impressive unless your talking about all the S@@t he talks!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:43PM

Pfffttt...

Westfield's offense was basically three big plays and a really, really good kicker...not really a complete game, simply a W.

Good luck w/ that.

----------------------------------------------------

It was what it needed to be, more points than the opponent. They have a good offense that can either grind it the length of the field or get it all in one play. Hell, the better of the two running backs didn't play a lot today, mostly due to his one fumble. Don't forget, they turned it over what, 3 times today, that typically doesn't happen. Bottom line is Westfield has done this every year under Simmons, get better as the season goes on then hit their stride come the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:44PM

Thanks Mr. Johnson, not that impressive unless your talking about all the S@@t he talks!

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That's pretty funny!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What are you watching ()
Date: November 26, 2016 05:49PM

The better of the two running backs...if Keating and Simmons do not make all of their Running backs Look at big lineman Ass's all week and understand which way to cut based on where that big boys Butt is pointing..ankle biters..get it Westfield Running backs Clueless!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 06:04PM

The better of the two running backs...if Keating and Simmons do not make all of their Running backs Look at big lineman Ass's all week and understand which way to cut based on where that big boys Butt is pointing..ankle biters..get it Westfield Running backs Clueless!

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Hey, Vince Lombardi, relax will ya. I said better of the two, NEVER did I suggest either was a superstar. My point was to the idiot that said the victory was "basically three big plays and a really, really good kicker...not really a complete game, simply a W". Westfield did what it had to, I'm also pretty sure the defense had a hand in the victory as well....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 06:16PM

Can someone please pull up a chart of common opponents between Westfield and South Lakes? Would like to know how the teams fared.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Charts R Us ()
Date: November 26, 2016 06:24PM

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/south-lakes-seahawks-(reston,va)/football/schedule.htm

BriarWoods
Madison
Herndon
Oakton
Centreville
W&L

Westfield lost to BW in O T StoneBridge Thrashed them
SL lost to Hayfield who got annihilated by Lake Braddock so go figure anything Goes Week #14

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 06:50PM

South Lakes has arrived and they ain't going anywhere any time soon. We still have loaded Junior class returning next year and our Freshman team went undefeated beat everyone they played by 30 or more points. We will grab multiple State titles in the next 4 years including this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: then maybe ()
Date: November 26, 2016 06:55PM

So maybe get some fans at your home games. Hell there were more Centreville fans in the visitors seats last week than there were SL fans in the home seats

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:04PM

South Lakes has arrived and they ain't going anywhere any time soon. We still have loaded Junior class returning next year and our Freshman team went undefeated beat everyone they played by 30 or more points. We will grab multiple State titles in the next 4 years including this year.

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Hmmm, let's see;

Yorktown
McLean
Washington & Lee
Herndon
Madison
Langley

Hardly any of them synonymous with "6A North Football Powers"

Just saying.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:06PM

South Lakes has arrived and they ain't going anywhere any time soon. We still have loaded Junior class returning next year and our Freshman team went undefeated beat everyone they played by 30 or more points. We will grab multiple State titles in the next 4 years including this year.

----------------------------------------------------

Hmmm, let's see;

Yorktown
McLean
Washington & Lee
Herndon
Madison
Langley

Hardly any of them synonymous with "6A North Football Powers"

Just saying.....

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Forgot Hayfield & Fairfax, sorry...........

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: fiejdkf ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:31PM

At the end of the day the southern virginia niggers will beat the northern virginia liberals

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:39PM

For a team that has never made it this far and has been historically bad, South Lakes fans are very cocky.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 07:49PM

Just stating facts. SL has arrived! They're taking over the region.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTF Happened? ()
Date: November 26, 2016 09:37PM

South County went 8-4 this season??? WTF happened?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Bulldog Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:10PM

WTF Happened? Wrote:
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> South County went 8-4 this season??? WTF happened?


Yep, think SOCO planned on taking over the region too, didn't work out too well.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wise NR Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:10PM

Congrats to South Lakes. You guys have had a great two year run. Just remember that success can come and go quickly. If not for a terrible blown call in the Centreville game, you could have been out in round two. Enjoy this run. You never know if you'll get another.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:16PM

3rd south lakes game I've watched this year. Everytime I watch them in warm ups they look out matched out numbered and outsized. I can't believe they are as physical as they look. Props to the players and coaching staff for making this and unforgettable year. Westfield may very well win but really impressive job by south lakes. Stop with the strength of schedule too they crushed a huge oakton team. Beat 8-2 centreville and the top seed in the region by 3 scores. I Have become a bandwagon south lakes fan. Go Seahawks

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: LakeBraddockPROUD ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:44PM

Easy answer why South County went 8-4. They ran the score up on every small school they played and LOST every big game they played this season.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Wise NR Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:49PM

Speaking of Lake Braddock... How many times in the past 8-10 years have they been the most talented team in the region and failed to win it? Lots of Seniors in this team, right? They were by far the best team in terms of the eye test that I saw this year in 6A North.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:52PM

Wise NR Fan Wrote:
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> Speaking of Lake Braddock... How many times in the
> past 8-10 years have they been the most talented
> team in the region and failed to win it? Lots of
> Seniors in this team, right? They were by far the
> best team in terms of the eye test that I saw this
> year in 6A North.


Atleast they didn't lose to the same team that they normally lose to.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FgEsd ()
Date: November 26, 2016 10:54PM

I am confused. Looking to see which Patriot conference teams are in the North finals. I don't see any. All I hear all season long is that Patriot is the dominant conference.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Archives ()
Date: November 27, 2016 08:28AM

South Lakes Play off Dominance has been captured on Video for all to see in case there is any question who is taking over the State the next 4 years
https://mobile.twitter.com/rebelrunsports/status/799794555109474304/video/1

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 27, 2016 09:33AM

NR Archives Wrote:
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> South Lakes Play off Dominance has been captured
> on Video for all to see in case there is any
> question who is taking over the State the next 4
> years
> https://mobile.twitter.com/rebelrunsports/status/7
> 99794555109474304/video/1


Am I missing something? I don't see anything but a still picture, please enlighten those of us that don't get it....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Enlightened ()
Date: November 27, 2016 10:01AM

Your missing a lot in this technology based World if you Do not know what to Do with that "Still picture" I guess your still using A Rotary Phone and Dial- up Modem.. Push the Blue Arrow in Center, Then the Black one..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: old news ()
Date: November 27, 2016 10:29AM

NR Archives Wrote:
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> South Lakes Play off Dominance has been captured
> on Video for all to see in case there is any
> question who is taking over the State the next 4
> years
> https://mobile.twitter.com/rebelrunsports/status/7
> 99794555109474304/video/1

The butthurt is strong with this one. There seems to be a lot of it on this board over last weeks news. Get over it. If this play had been called correctly it would have been 2nd and long from deep in Cville territory. Maybe they punt from there and SL scores on the next possession to tie the game, maybe they get a few first downs then punt, maybe they drive for a TD to go up 21-7 in the 3rd. Who knows? One thing that isn't a given is that Cville would have won if not for this bad call.

Bad officiating happens in all HS sports and has been previously mentioned there were plenty of call both ways in the SL-Cville game. Championship teams have to overcome bad officiating and in this case Cville didn't.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 27, 2016 10:49AM

Enlightened Wrote:
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> Your missing a lot in this technology based World
> if you Do not know what to Do with that "Still
> picture" I guess your still using A Rotary Phone
> and Dial- up Modem.. Push the Blue Arrow in
> Center, Then the Black one..


That would explain it, there is no blue arrow on my screen, I cannot get any videos to run on Twitter. Maybe you can enlighten me on they reason why oh wise one..

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Reality Please ()
Date: November 27, 2016 10:55AM

Great teams must be able to overcome poor officiating, but a call that terrible should never happen. It's one thing to miss a holding call or call pass interference when it didn't occur, but directly giving a team points that they didn't deserve should absolutely never occur. I hope someone from the officials organization contacted Centreville and admitted to the major mistake. I've watched HS football for 20 years and that's probably the worst mistake I've ever seen, given it was in the playoffs. By the way, I'm not a Centreville fan.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WestFieldFan ()
Date: November 27, 2016 11:08AM

Why South County went 8-4 this season? They ran the score up on all the small schools and lost every big game they played. But Coach Simmons said it best when he retweeted this the night before we played SOCO. Do you think Pannoni got the message?
Kyle Simmons Retweeted
"When culture is your focus you'll spend more time building a great foundation and
less time putting out fires."

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Madison v Westfield ()
Date: November 27, 2016 01:32PM

if you actually watched the Westfield Madison game, you would know the score did not accurately reflect the game. Madison defense dominated Westfield offense, only giving up pne big drive and one big touchdown and were put in bad situations all game. Madison offense was rolling in the first but slowed down after Conforti got hurt and the pick 6. Just like the whole season, special teams and injuries plagued Madison. Madison fell apart 2nd half and were playing w/o 3-4 starters. My guess is SL beats a very overrated Westfield team

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 27, 2016 02:38PM

Madison v Westfield Wrote:
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> if you actually watched the Westfield Madison
> game, you would know the score did not accurately
> reflect the game. Madison defense dominated
> Westfield offense, only giving up pne big drive
> and one big touchdown and were put in bad
> situations all game. Madison offense was rolling
> in the first but slowed down after Conforti got
> hurt and the pick 6. Just like the whole season,
> special teams and injuries plagued Madison.
> Madison fell apart 2nd half and were playing w/o
> 3-4 starters. My guess is SL beats a very
> overrated Westfield team

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Domination would mean not giving up any score's let alone one big drive. Pretty sure there were 2 offensive TD's, 1 defensive TD, and 1 special teams TD scored by Westfield. That's what good teams do, they contribute in all 3 phases of a game to come away with the win.

Anyone who follows WF football will tell you it's special teams and defense that this team is known for. They've got talented playmakers on the offensive side of the ball, most of the time they're not called on to win the game because the other two afore mentioned units handle business. But make no mistake, the O definitely can put some points on the board, for the most part they will play it conservatively. Simmons knows he can count on Delaney's leg to pin the opponent deep and his D's ability to force turnovers.

If Madison's demise was because they lost one WR then that doesn't speak well of the team. Also, using an excuse that a couple starters were missing is lame as hell. Westfield started the game without #23 & #42, two of their better defensive players, they lost #64 sometime early second half who's probably their best O-lineman. Injuries occur, good teams find a way to overcome and win, Madison was beat by the better TEAM on the field yesterday....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield ()
Date: November 27, 2016 03:03PM

If Westfield is known for defense, this team is not one of their best. Their defense was very subpar

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 27, 2016 03:18PM

Westfield Wrote:
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> If Westfield is known for defense, this team is
> not one of their best. Their defense was very
> subpar

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Only gave up 13 points to Madison yesterday, 3 points to SOCO the week before, 7 the week before that to Woodson.

I'm sure there are quite a few coaches in 6A North that would like to give up an average of under 8 points a game through the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

Not bad for a "subpar" defense......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Karma is a Beach ()
Date: November 27, 2016 03:38PM

It was the LGBT community that cost Madison the game, ask their players and Mohawked coach how many times they called Westfield Players Faggot yesterday...
Beware of Unicorns and Glitter...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Kaiser Sose ()
Date: November 27, 2016 06:02PM

I was at the Madison Westfield game and I have been a Madison fan since my kids went there 20 years ago. My take away is this... Westfield is a very good high school football team and earned the victory on Saturday. My initial impression of Westfield is that they were a small college team because of the size of some of their kids. Madison looked very small in comparison on the sidelines.

However, once the game started I realized Madison is also a very good high school football team and gave they gave Westfield all they could handle for much of the game. The first half was some very good football with Madison dominating the time of possession but Westfield leading on the scoreboard 14-13. Westfield was not able to mount much offense with the exception of a scoring drive of about 40 yards after their defense held and a short punt. Madison had two long drives sandwiched in between several three and outs as well. Previous poster mentioned special teams and Westfield returned a kick off for a touchdown right after Madison's first score by #2 (who I thought was one of the most impressive looking athletes I have seen all season) and blocked a Madison extra point after their second score (#94). In the second half both defenses controlled the game early. The game absolutely turned mid way through the third quarter when Westfield returned an interception for a touchdown (#24). It came right after Madison stopped Westfield on a fourth down fake punt and had the ball second and four just inside Westfield territory. From that point on Westfield's D took over. I was very impressed by #93, #97, and #32. They were very difficult to block the entire day and became particularly tough to deal with in obvious passing situations. Westfield added an 80 yard TD to #2 again to ice the game early in the fourth quarter.

I do think the injury to Conforti was a bigger deal for Madison than others might. Conforti is a fantastic receiver and is very difficult for one player to cover. Westfield has a very good secondary but Madison had some success passing the ball in the first half. With Conforti out the coverage was able to tighten down on Finney and make it difficult for Madison to pass. To Westfeld's credit as well they were able to get to the quarterback with 3 and 4 man rushes so they could cover with 7 or 8 most of the second half. I am not saying that Conforti being healthy would have changed the outcome I am just saying the impact the loss of Conforti had on Madison was major.

The real difference I saw between the two teams is the depth. Westfield dressed about 1000 kids and many of them were large boys. Every team has injuries but a program like Westfield can absorb those injuries where a program like Madison might not be able to. Madison does not have the size (both numbers and physical size) of Westfield but they do have some very talented players. I thought Sam Kidd (#25), showed he is as good as any defensive player in the region. I thought Landan Thomas #9 ran hard against a very good defensive. I thought the whole Madison defense played physical and held their own the entire game and they were on the field a lot in the second half.

Bottom line is this. I am proud of this years Warhawks and the way they played all season. I don't know why one team has to be bad for the other to be good. Why can't we just say this was a good high school football game won by the team that played better that day? I wish Westfield luck moving forward though I will be pulling for the scappy South Lakes team (since they play in the same crappy district Madison plays in). I think you will find South Lakes to be a lot like Madison. They won't scare you getting off the bus but they have some real good football players. Stay healthy both teams and best of luck.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: mohawk fan ()
Date: November 27, 2016 06:32PM

Karma is a Beach Wrote:
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> It was the LGBT community that cost Madison the
> game, ask their players and Mohawked coach how
> many times they called Westfield Players Faggot
> yesterday...
> Beware of Unicorns and Glitter...


Mr. Johnson, Your boy has probably heard worse on the football field. He'll get over it. Maybe you can bring it up at the next VYI meeting. Get this language cleaned up at the grass roots level.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 27, 2016 06:34PM

Kaiser Sose Wrote:
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> I was at the Madison Westfield game and I have
> been a Madison fan since my kids went there 20
> years ago. My take away is this... Westfield is a
> very good high school football team and earned the
> victory on Saturday. My initial impression of
> Westfield is that they were a small college team
> because of the size of some of their kids.
> Madison looked very small in comparison on the
> sidelines.
>
> However, once the game started I realized Madison
> is also a very good high school football team and
> gave they gave Westfield all they could handle for
> much of the game. The first half was some very
> good football with Madison dominating the time of
> possession but Westfield leading on the scoreboard
> 14-13. Westfield was not able to mount much
> offense with the exception of a scoring drive of
> about 40 yards after their defense held and a
> short punt. Madison had two long drives
> sandwiched in between several three and outs as
> well. Previous poster mentioned special teams and
> Westfield returned a kick off for a touchdown
> right after Madison's first score by #2 (who I
> thought was one of the most impressive looking
> athletes I have seen all season) and blocked a
> Madison extra point after their second score
> (#94). In the second half both defenses
> controlled the game early. The game absolutely
> turned mid way through the third quarter when
> Westfield returned an interception for a touchdown
> (#24). It came right after Madison stopped
> Westfield on a fourth down fake punt and had the
> ball second and four just inside Westfield
> territory. From that point on Westfield's D took
> over. I was very impressed by #93, #97, and #32.
> They were very difficult to block the entire day
> and became particularly tough to deal with in
> obvious passing situations. Westfield added an 80
> yard TD to #2 again to ice the game early in the
> fourth quarter.
>
> I do think the injury to Conforti was a bigger
> deal for Madison than others might. Conforti is a
> fantastic receiver and is very difficult for one
> player to cover. Westfield has a very good
> secondary but Madison had some success passing the
> ball in the first half. With Conforti out the
> coverage was able to tighten down on Finney and
> make it difficult for Madison to pass. To
> Westfeld's credit as well they were able to get to
> the quarterback with 3 and 4 man rushes so they
> could cover with 7 or 8 most of the second half.
> I am not saying that Conforti being healthy would
> have changed the outcome I am just saying the
> impact the loss of Conforti had on Madison was
> major.
>
> The real difference I saw between the two teams is
> the depth. Westfield dressed about 1000 kids and
> many of them were large boys. Every team has
> injuries but a program like Westfield can absorb
> those injuries where a program like Madison might
> not be able to. Madison does not have the size
> (both numbers and physical size) of Westfield but
> they do have some very talented players. I
> thought Sam Kidd (#25), showed he is as good as
> any defensive player in the region. I thought
> Landan Thomas #9 ran hard against a very good
> defensive. I thought the whole Madison defense
> played physical and held their own the entire game
> and they were on the field a lot in the second
> half.
>
> Bottom line is this. I am proud of this years
> Warhawks and the way they played all season. I
> don't know why one team has to be bad for the
> other to be good. Why can't we just say this was
> a good high school football game won by the team
> that played better that day? I wish Westfield
> luck moving forward though I will be pulling for
> the scappy South Lakes team (since they play in
> the same crappy district Madison plays in). I
> think you will find South Lakes to be a lot like
> Madison. They won't scare you getting off the bus
> but they have some real good football players.
> Stay healthy both teams and best of luck.

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The most thoughtful, intelligent, and spot on post I think I've ever had the pleasure of reading on this site!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 27, 2016 07:21PM

Madison v Westfield Wrote:
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> if you actually watched the Westfield Madison
> game, you would know the score did not accurately
> reflect the game. Madison defense dominated
> Westfield offense, only giving up pne big drive
> and one big touchdown and were put in bad
> situations all game. Madison offense was rolling
> in the first but slowed down after Conforti got
> hurt and the pick 6. Just like the whole season,
> special teams and injuries plagued Madison.
> Madison fell apart 2nd half and were playing w/o
> 3-4 starters. My guess is SL beats a very
> overrated Westfield team

If you have watched Westfield football the last two seasons this is how Westfield wins games. Defense + special teams and just enough from the offense. The playcalling on offense is always extremely conservative but this is the formula. Madison was a very good football team and played a very solid game. That is a tough team that had an outstanding season.

I don't think Westfield is overrated - I haven't seen many people picking them as the team to beat. They are definitely not as good as last years team but they may well be the best team in the North. So there you have it. Will find out next week.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 27, 2016 07:26PM

I see next weeks South Lakes - Westfield game being a lot like last years one. This time however, because South Lakes is actually a good team, whereas last time, the game was close because Westfield didn't seem to give a damn.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Thank you assholes ()
Date: November 27, 2016 07:27PM

Thank you for defeating the meals tax. FCPS will now cancel football to pay for crap like lesbian studies and trasgender bathrooms.

I should have voted for Trump.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 27, 2016 09:25PM

Below is a list of VHSL 6A/AAA Div. 6 NORTHERN REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Marshall 21, Mount Vernon 0
1987 – T.C. Williams, 21 Annandale 0
1988 – Robinson 21, West Potomac 14
1989 – West Potomac 14, Lake Braddock 8
1990 – Annandale 27, T.C Williams 6
1991 – South Lakes 13, Robinson 12
1992 – Robinson 21, Annandale 0
1993 – Annandale 25, West Springfield 7
1994 – Annandale 33, Chantilly 0
1995 – Lake Braddock 15, Chantilly 14
1996 – Chantilly 28, Robinson 8
1997 – Robinson 21, Centreville 12
1998 – Centreville 21, Oakton 19
1999 – Centreville 21, Lake Braddock 17
2000 – Centreville 16, Robinson 13
2001 – Robinson 40, Centreville 17
2002 – Oakton 31, Robinson 29
2003 – Westfield 28, Robinson 7
2004 – Robinson 29, Oakton 22
2005 – Oakton 42, Westfield 24
2006 – Chantilly 26, Westfield 21
2007 – Westfield 58, West Springfield 34
2008 – Oakton 52, Chantilly 14
2009 – Lake Braddock 27, W.T. Woodson 20
2010 – Lake Braddock 56, Chantilly 18
2011 – Centreville 27, Westfield 24
2012 – Oakton 23, Westfield 16
2013 – Centreville 35, Westfield 14
2014 – Centreville 21, Westfield 17
2015 – Westfield 40, South County 8

Wins:
Centreville – 6
Robinson – 5
Oakton – 4
Annandale – 3
Lake Braddock – 3
Westfield – 3
Chantilly – 2
Marshall – 1
South Lakes – 1
T.C. Williams – 1
West Potomac – 1

Appearances:
Robinson – 10
Westfield – 9
Centreville – 8
Chantilly – 6
Oakton – 6
Annandale – 5
Lake Braddock – 5
T.C. Williams – 2
West Potomac – 2
West Springfield – 2
Marshall -1
Mount Vernon – 1
South County – 1
South Lakes - 1
W.T. Woodson – 1

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 27, 2016 09:27PM

Below is a list of VHSL 5A/AAA Div. 5 NORTHERN REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State Champions.

1986 – Edison 16, Stuart 12
1987 – Marshall 12, Fairfax 6
1988 – Yorktown 26, Marshall 20
1989 – Stuart 42, Edison 26
1990 – West Potomac 21, Hayfield 0
1991 – Langley 17, West Potomac 7
1992 – Hayfield 40, McLean 0
1993 – Langley 14, Hayfield 0
1994 – Fairfax 15, West Potomac 14
1995 – McLean 23, West Potomac 7
1996 – Madison 28, McLean 10
1997 – West Potomac 31, Mount Vernon 7
1998 – West Potomac 42, Park View 8
1999 – Yorktown 40, South Lakes 12
2000 – West Potomac 14, Langley 7
2001 – Mount Vernon 28, Madison 6
2002 – South Lakes 7, W.T. Woodson 2
2003 – Madison 20, Yorktown 0
2004 – W.T. Woodson 29, Edison 25
2005 – Stone Bridge 29 Edison 21
2006 – Edison 31, Stone Bridge 17
2007 – Stone Bridge 27, Edison 14
2008 – Stone Bridge 35, Edison 6
2009 – Stone Bridge 21, Lee 10
2010 – Stone Bridge 35, Hayfield 7
2011 – South County 37, Yorktown 13
2012 – Stone Bridge 69, Yorktown 50
2013 – Briar Woods 27, North Stafford 25
2014 – Tuscarora 41, Massaponax 21
2015 – Stone Bridge 54, Tuscarora 41

Wins:
Stone Bridge – 7
West Potomac – 4
Edison – 2
Langley – 2
Madison – 2
Yorktown – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Fairfax – 1
Hayfield – 1
Marshall – 1
McLean – 1
Mount Vernon – 1
South County – 1
South Lakes – 1
Stuart – 1
Tuscarora – 1
W.T. Woodson – 1

Appearances:
Stone Bridge – 8
Edison – 7
West Potomac – 7
Yorktown – 5
Hayfield – 4
Langley – 3
Madison – 3
McLean – 3
Fairfax – 2
Marshall – 2
Mount Vernon – 2
South Lakes – 2
Stuart – 2
Tuscarora – 2
W.T. Woodson – 2
Briar Woods – 1
Lee – 1
North Stafford – 1
Massaponax – 1
Park View – 1
South County – 1

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 27, 2016 09:59PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Below is a list of VHSL 6A/AAA Div. 6 NORTHERN
> REGION CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. I decided to start with
> 1986 since that was the year AAA split into 6A and
> 5A. Teams in bold ended up as State
> Champions.
>
> 1986 – Marshall 21, Mount Vernon 0
> 1987 – T.C. Williams, 21 Annandale 0
> 1988 – Robinson 21, West Potomac 14
> 1989 – West Potomac 14, Lake Braddock 8
> 1990 – Annandale 27, T.C Williams 6
> 1991 – South Lakes 13, Robinson 12
> 1992 – Robinson 21, Annandale 0
> 1993 – Annandale 25, West Springfield 7
> 1994 – Annandale 33, Chantilly 0
> 1995 – Lake Braddock 15, Chantilly 14
> 1996 – Chantilly 28, Robinson 8
> 1997 – Robinson 21, Centreville 12
> 1998 – Centreville 21, Oakton 19
> 1999 – Centreville 21, Lake Braddock 17
> 2000 – Centreville 16, Robinson 13
> 2001 – Robinson 40, Centreville 17
> 2002 – Oakton 31, Robinson 29
> 2003 – Westfield 28, Robinson 7
> 2004 – Robinson 29, Oakton 22
> 2005 – Oakton 42, Westfield 24
> 2006 – Chantilly 26, Westfield 21
> 2007 – Westfield 58, West Springfield 34
> 2008 – Oakton 52, Chantilly 14
> 2009 – Lake Braddock 27, W.T. Woodson 20
> 2010 – Lake Braddock 56, Chantilly 18
> 2011 – Centreville 27, Westfield 24
> 2012 – Oakton 23, Westfield 16
> 2013 – Centreville 35, Westfield 14
> 2014 – Centreville 21, Westfield 17
> 2015 – Westfield 40, South County 8
>
> Wins:
> Centreville – 6
> Robinson – 5
> Oakton – 4
> Annandale – 3
> Lake Braddock – 3
> Westfield – 3
> Chantilly – 2
> Marshall – 1
> South Lakes – 1
> T.C. Williams – 1
> West Potomac – 1
>
> Appearances:
> Robinson – 10
> Westfield – 9
> Centreville – 8
> Chantilly – 6
> Oakton – 6
> Annandale – 5
> Lake Braddock – 5
> T.C. Williams – 2
> West Potomac – 2
> West Springfield – 2
> Marshall -1
> Mount Vernon – 1
> South County – 1
> South Lakes - 1
> W.T. Woodson – 1

2006 Westfield team could've won it all to be honest, might be the greatest Westfield team to not win States. Would've steamrolled literally everybody last year and this year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: November 27, 2016 11:00PM

then maybe Wrote:
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> So maybe get some fans at your home games. Hell
> there were more Centreville fans in the visitors
> seats last week than there were SL fans in the
> home seats


I'm a neutral fan. I attended the South Lakes v. Centreville game. I sat on the home sideline. I can tell you there were plenty more in those stands than yours.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Player insider ()
Date: November 28, 2016 09:29AM

It seems like every year people should be asking, "who will Westfield be playing in the regional championship this year?" Will Westfield be as dominant in the future? Will they still be the team to beat five years from now?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes will win ()
Date: November 28, 2016 09:50AM

South Lakes should have won is matchup last year, but turnovers killed them in the end. everyone agrees that South Lakes is improved, and WF is not the same team they were a year ago. SL's only loss came against a very talented Hayfield team, and that game was tied halfway through the 3rd. If you were at the LB game, you know that SL has the talent to match up with the so-called elite teams of the north. They are also well coached and not scared of anybody. I keep hearing about WF and its "stout" defense. Take a look at what SL did all season. If the scores aren't enough, ask Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Hahaha1 ()
Date: November 28, 2016 10:08AM

LakeBraddockPROUD Wrote:
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> Easy answer why South County went 8-4. They ran
> the score up on every small school they played and
> LOST every big game they played this season.

Says the school that just lost in a big game. Haha move on, Soco is already back in the weight room working. LB might want to do the same thing!!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield goes back to states ()
Date: November 28, 2016 10:15AM

This Westfield defense is nothing but stout. I'm a south county fan and they are lock down. Zach Jewell has had 10 sacks in the past 4 games. He will give kroll troubles. That's with Kevin petrillos consistent playmaking abilities. Those two and Joey free lead a very young defense that has let up less than 8 points per game in the playoffs. Westfield wins 24-7.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTxMm ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:19PM

South Lakes will win Wrote:
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> If the scores aren't enough, ask
> Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

Atkins was pretty much held in check/shut down by Centreville, TCW and Robinson prior to South Lakes. Lake Braddock as always just runs up the scores/stats against bad football teams. Every game they played against a top 20 ranked team was a nail-biter win or a loss. Same as last year.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WTxMm ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:21PM

Westfield goes back to states Wrote:
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Technically, this is the state semi-final.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield goes back to states ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:25PM

Yeah... I know that, that's why I said they go back to states because they win this game

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: xcymp ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:32PM

The real question is when will 5A North ever win another state title? 3-30. That is embarrassing.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:44PM

I keep hearing about WF and its "stout" defense. Take a look at what SL did all season. If the scores aren't enough, ask Crabb and all-everything Atkins.

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I'm not sure you can use teams like Marshall, Yorktown, McLean, Washington & Lee, Herndon, Langley, and Fairfax to back up this claim. Quite honestly those teams are awful.

So I compared the 6 common opponents both schools played, Briar Woods, Washington & Lee, Madison, Herndon, Oakton, and Centreville.

Westfield gave up a combined 57 points to those teams whereas South Lakes gave up 109. That's an average of 9.5 points a game for WF & 18.2 for SL their respective D's gave up against common opponents. WF had 2 shutouts, SL none against common opponents.



"They are also well coached and not scared of anybody."

Westfield has played in the region final now 6 years straight, two before they changed the format and now the past 4 North finals. I think they might be well coached too, so don't think SL has the market cornered on that. As a matter of fact that's precisely why they're playing in this game, yet once again....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes Will Win ()
Date: November 28, 2016 12:50PM

My point was not a put down of WF, but that the SL defense is just as good. I'm aware of Jewell, Petrillo and Free (funny how a "SoCo" fan knows Jewell's sack numbers, isn't it?), and last year Petrillo's two picks were probably the difference maker in a tough loss. But after those three, who's left? SL is a complete defense, and while the names aren't out there publically, it doesn't mean the talent isn't on the same level. LB and pretty much everyone made the mistake of overlooking SL, so another week of that will be fine.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: No Name No Shame ()
Date: November 28, 2016 01:08PM

WE the Other 8 would rather remain Nameless, we just do our Jobs!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 02:14PM

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> My point was not a put down of WF, but that the SL
> defense is just as good. I'm aware of Jewell,
> Petrillo and Free (funny how a "SoCo" fan knows
> Jewell's sack numbers, isn't it?), and last year
> Petrillo's two picks were probably the difference
> maker in a tough loss. But after those three,
> who's left? SL is a complete defense, and while
> the names aren't out there publically, it doesn't
> mean the talent isn't on the same level. LB and
> pretty much everyone made the mistake of
> overlooking SL, so another week of that will be
> fine.


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First, I really don't think Westfield is going to overlook South Lakes. Pretty sure they did that last year and that almost stung them. It's the 6A North championship game, nobody's overlooking the opponent.

Just as South Lakes is, Westfield too, is a complete defense. I could name the others but there's no need, think their accomplishment of giving up an average of 8 points per game this post season speaks for itself.

I will throw one name out there, Cockrill, big TE/FB that now is playing DE. With he and Jewell on either side that's a formidable duo. This is what Westfield does come playoffs, use their top players on either side of the ball. Petrillo and Jewell have been in there at times on the offense as well.

Bottom line is this is the 6th straight regional final for Westfield. The coaching staff is a large part of why they're here, regardless of what you think of them. As South Lakes shut down Atkins this past weekend WF put SOCO's Spalding under wraps the one before.

At this point both teams that make it this far are talented, usually the difference maker is coaching and how the players handle the stage....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes Will Win ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:14PM

Good response. I was not insulting the other 8 WF players, and I see how that could have been taken that way. Don't need the other 8 players names, and don't plan on listing the SL starter s.. WF fans and "SoCo" fans keep throwing out names, but a state championship put some of those names on the map. SL has players of equal caliber, many also going both ways, but they just don't have the reputation. A new culture with excellent coaching has SL playing its best football. Only a win will change perception. Maybe WF didn't overlook SL last year, and they actually had problems with the SL offense. You are right. Coaching and being able to handle the stage will matter. It should be a good game, but SL will win it this time.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: restonlakes ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:21PM

South Lakes is going win this one easily as well. Has any football team in the history of the northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective pair of running backs as Westfield? I just watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF FANN ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:22PM

WE Can Agree that We Desire to see a great Football Game, Played By great Young Men Named and un-Named, All exemplifying great Sportsmanship with no Injuries. At this Stage of the Game they are all deserving, and its only fitting that it Runs through the defending Champions!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:29PM

South Lakes is going win this one easily as well. Has any football team in the history of the northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective pair of running backs as Westfield? I just watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

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To answer your question, absolutely YES!!!

Look no further than Westfield last year, they had a RB that was 4th string when the season started. If it wasn't for injuries and suspensions he would have played mop-up only.

The kid ran for an average of over 200 yards in the 6A North & State Championship games. The kid was so slow that lineman could catch up to him, was very stiff running the ball, and couldn't pick a hole if his life depended on it.

Look, I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful but anyone who follows Westfield football knows what I'm talking about. Westfield hasn't had a premiere RB since Thrasher-Walker & Gray a few years ago.

Defense, special teams, and big strike capability is what this current Westfield team is about. No one ever called them an offensive juggernaut or said they had great RB's. Because that's just silly......

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:32PM

BTW, my previous post was to illustrate just how good the coaching staff at Westfield is. They made the RB last year look like a superstar in the post season. He doesn't even play college ball this year, that's how average he was but go back and look at the film...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:37PM

restonlakes Wrote:
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> South Lakes is going win this one easily as well.
> Has any football team in the history of the
> northern regin finals ever had such an ineffective
> pair of running backs as Westfield? I just
> watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and
> they can’t even remotely touch the South Lakes
> backs. How did they ever make it to the finals?

Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong? Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey Free? Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in the country. And last but not least, does whoever the South Lakes coach have nearly as many accomplishments as Kyle Simmons? Not saying South Lakes can't but just because your running backs put up better numbers in Liberty doesn't make them a whole lot better than the Westfield backs.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:48PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> restonlakes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > South Lakes is going win this one easily as
> well.
> > Has any football team in the history of the
> > northern regin finals ever had such an
> ineffective
> > pair of running backs as Westfield? I just
> > watched some video on #26 and #8 yesterday and
> > they can’t even remotely touch the South
> Lakes
> > backs. How did they ever make it to the
> finals?
>
> Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong? Is there a
> single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free? Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in
> the country. And last but not least, does whoever
> the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> accomplishments as Kyle Simmons? Not saying South
> Lakes can't but just because your running backs
> put up better numbers in Liberty doesn't make them
> a whole lot better than the Westfield backs.

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I also know a great deal will be made of South Lakes spread offense, they like to score and score quickly. Westfield played SOCO twice this year, they have a similar offense to South Lakes. The Westfield D gave up 20 points in two games against SOCO.

Just as a point of reference, SOCO and South Lakes arguably played a similar schedule in regard to strength of opponents. SOCO's offense scored 422 points in 10 regular season games, South Lakes scored 390 points in their respective 10 regular season games.

My point, don't think South Lakes offense is going to be anything that Westfield hasn't prepared or played against. They'll be prepared as they typically are thanks to the great group of coaches they have.

As the poster above stated, not much has been made of WF's secret weapon, their kicker. There will be no kick off returns for South Lakes, and as far as punting, be prepared to see 50-60 yard punts. Westfield's key to success is field position and defense, in most cases the offense is an afterthought.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: restonlakes ()
Date: November 28, 2016 03:54PM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> restonlakes Wrote:
>
> Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong?

I give you #2 but the #4 is very average.

> Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free?

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

> Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers in
> the country.

Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go there. Wow.

> And last but not least, does whoever
> the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> accomplishments as Kyle Simmons?

Taylor has coached in a regional final before. Simmons has 1 win in 5 tries. About to be 1 for 6.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent watcher of SL football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:05PM

Having gone to most of SL's home games the past two years and the WF playoff game last year I would expect WF to win next Saturday but it wouldn't shock me if SL pulled off the huge upset. It did surprise me to see SL beat LB so easily because Hayfield was easily the biggest and most athletic looking team I saw SL play this year and LB routed them.

SL has done a good job all year stopping opponents running game but they don't have very big DB's and big, physical receivers like Hayfeild's Cobbs are a tough matchup for them. I don't know if WF has anyone like that this year but if they do SL will have to pressure the QB to take some of the heat off the DB's.

A couple of things give me optimism this year. WF teams of the past wouldn't lose a game to teams like Briar Woods or get dominated by Stone Bridge the way they did earlier this season. Yeah, I know Simmons coaches em up and they peak around this time of year but in past years they could have an off game in Sept or Oct and still win because they had a lot more talent than their opponents. I haven't seen WF live yet this year but even some of the WF homers on this thread seem to feel they are a bit off this year from their usually high talent level.

SL returns mostly the same team from last year and Miles has another year of QB experience under his belt. SL doesn't have just one guy to key on either, Miles, Alston and Mensah can all produce and although they don't have Grunshie or Kirlew this year they have enough WR speed that you have to respect that (particularly when Alston lines up as a WR). The kicking game is much improved this year for SL. In last years playoff loss at WF after SL took a 4th quarter lead WF ran back the short kickoff (I'm talking barely over the 50 yard line short) for a TD and never looked back.

Should be a great game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:07PM

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

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Mmm, just my opinion but by and large lacrosse players tend to be a little tougher than some of the football players I've seen.

There are no bulky helmets, shoulder pads, hip and thigh pads in lacrosse.

But they tend to hit just as hard as they do in football with less/lighter equipment.

Just saying....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:09PM

Frequent Watched of WF Football Wrote:
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> Westfield hasn't had a premiere
> RB since Thrasher-Walker & Gray a few years ago.

The good old days... remember Kendall Anderson (2011 season)?
http://www.tribeathletics.com/news/2016/11/21/kendell-anderson-honored-as-caa-football-offensive-player-of-the-week.aspx

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:11PM

restonlakes Wrote:
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> Football Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > restonlakes Wrote:
> >
> > Can any of the South Lakes receivers remotely
> > touch Sean Eckert or Ivory Frimpong?
>
> I give you #2 but the #4 is very average.
>
> > Is there a single player on that defense of
> South Lakes that
> > can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> > Free?
>
> The answer is yes and you about to find out.
> South Lakes has football players on defense not
> lacrosse players.
>
> > Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> > know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers
> in
> > the country.
>
> Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go
> there. Wow.
>
> > And last but not least, does whoever
> > the South Lakes coach have nearly as many
> > accomplishments as Kyle Simmons?
>
> Taylor has coached in a regional final before.
> Simmons has 1 win in 5 tries. About to be 1 for
> 6.

Atleast Simmons has a win. He also has 3 rings. Please tell me more about Taylor and how he managed 2 wins just a few years ago. Would you also like to tell me how "good" South Lakes was until they were given players that were otherwise suppose to go to Westfield or Oakton?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes Will Win ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:16PM

I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you the last word. Go back to your film and see how unsettled WFs defense was last year against us. The speed of the team (not individual players speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much different offensive sets and plays. That's an easy, but incorrect, comparison.

You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to ignore that.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:17PM

> > Does South Lakes even have a kicker? You
> > know Westfields kicker? One of the top kickers
> in
> > the country.
>
> Ok - you got kicker if you really want to go
> there. Wow

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Guess this guy has no clue that the kicking game is extremely important when it comes to the battle for field position.

Ever wonder why the broadcasters in the NFL continuously talk about the battle for field position week in and week out?

Makes a huge difference in high school when you don't get an opportunity to run a kick or punt back.....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:22PM

Frequent watcher of SL football Wrote:
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> Having gone to most of SL's home games the past
> two years and the WF playoff game last year I
> would expect WF to win next Saturday but it
> wouldn't shock me if SL pulled off the huge upset.
> It did surprise me to see SL beat LB so easily
> because Hayfield was easily the biggest and most
> athletic looking team I saw SL play this year and
> LB routed them.
>
> SL has done a good job all year stopping opponents
> running game but they don't have very big DB's and
> big, physical receivers like Hayfeild's Cobbs are
> a tough matchup for them. I don't know if WF has
> anyone like that this year but if they do SL will
> have to pressure the QB to take some of the heat
> off the DB's.
>
> A couple of things give me optimism this year. WF
> teams of the past wouldn't lose a game to teams
> like Briar Woods or get dominated by Stone Bridge
> the way they did earlier this season. Yeah, I
> know Simmons coaches em up and they peak around
> this time of year but in past years they could
> have an off game in Sept or Oct and still win
> because they had a lot more talent than their
> opponents. I haven't seen WF live yet this year
> but even some of the WF homers on this thread seem
> to feel they are a bit off this year from their
> usually high talent level.
>
> SL returns mostly the same team from last year and
> Miles has another year of QB experience under his
> belt. SL doesn't have just one guy to key on
> either, Miles, Alston and Mensah can all produce
> and although they don't have Grunshie or Kirlew
> this year they have enough WR speed that you have
> to respect that (particularly when Alston lines up
> as a WR). The kicking game is much improved this
> year for SL. In last years playoff loss at WF
> after SL took a 4th quarter lead WF ran back the
> short kickoff (I'm talking barely over the 50 yard
> line short) for a TD and never looked back.
>
>
> Should be a great game.

I remember Grunshie from last years matchup, he was a very impressive player, all over the field. It seemed that the team relied on him a lot so it's impressive how they've played without him. It should be a great game. Westfields secondary struggled early one not because they couldn't cover but because they couldn't tackle. With the front seven healthy (not entirely, but this will do), the secondary will have a much easier time. They have the speed to keep up with the South Lakes receivers, Alston included. If South Lakes is gonna win though they'll need to punish the Westfield front 7, which is one of the best in the area. Another thing they'll need to do is matchup with #2 and #4, some NFL teams don't have WRs with that size (notice how I didn't say skill). Haven't seen much South Lakes but do they have any big corners?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:26PM

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you
> the last word. Go back to your film and see how
> unsettled WFs defense was last year against us.
> The speed of the team (not individual players
> speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the
> comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much
> different offensive sets and plays. That's an
> easy, but incorrect, comparison.
>
> You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to
> ignore that.

With all respect to South Lakes, they scored 13 points last time, with one of the touchdowns coming on a blown coverage, the QB was intercepted atleast twice. I don't see how Westfields defense was unsettled. What I remember is that Westfields offense struggling because Scanlon was too conservative and they didn't take deep shots like they did this year. Score could've been much worse than it actually was, the game just got away from South Lakes following that kick return.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:31PM

South Lakes Will Win Wrote:
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> I felt I had been dismissed, so I was giving you
> the last word. Go back to your film and see how
> unsettled WFs defense was last year against us.
> The speed of the team (not individual players
> speed) took Westfield out of their game. Also, the
> comparison to South County is simply wrong. Much
> different offensive sets and plays. That's an
> easy, but incorrect, comparison.
>
> You have a great kicker. Stupid of restonlakes to
> ignore that.


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I understand your point, mine was merely to make a point that. a spread offense isn't going to be anything Westfield hasn't prepared for. I'm not so sure it was South Lakes speed that gave Westfield such a hard time last year. It might have been that a good deal of those players had gone against the Seahawks the previous few years. This teams were not very good, I think Westfield underestimated them last year, don't think they will this year.

Look, I get it, South Lakes is a very good team, so is Westfield. At this point I think either team could win this Saturday. This Westfield team is not as strong as last years, but somehow they just keep getting the job done.

Good luck and hopefully it will be a good game!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Frequent Watched of WF Football ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:33PM

"This teams were not very good,'

Those not this, sorry....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes Will Win ()
Date: November 28, 2016 04:41PM

Good luck as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: as in... ()
Date: November 28, 2016 05:09PM

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> restonlakes Wrote:
>
> Is there a single player on that defense of South Lakes that
> can touch Kevin Petrillo, Zack Jewell, or Joey
> Free?

The answer is yes and you about to find out. South Lakes has football players on defense not lacrosse players.

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As in Petrillo, Concorde Defensive player of the Year
or
Jewell, 1st team all Conference and easily could have been player of the year
or
Free, 1st team all conference and has shut down the opposition's #1 receiver all season
or
Roberson, who, until his injury, was playing lights out
or
Lydic, who came back from a serious concussion to resume his very solid LB play
or
Cockrill, who also plays defense when he isn't running the ball, blocking or catching passes or being all-around the best player on the team?

Probably more, but that's off the top of my brain. Which of those lacrosse players don't you think play actual football on Westfield's defense?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: PXTk6 ()
Date: November 28, 2016 07:06PM

PXTk6

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Huh?? ()
Date: November 28, 2016 09:28PM

Here's the thread....

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 7G6jv ()
Date: November 29, 2016 08:54AM

as in... Wrote:
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> Probably more, but that's off the top of my brain.
> Which of those lacrosse players don't you think
> play actual football on Westfield's defense?

The ironic thing is that some of South Lakes best players also play lacrosse.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF parent ()
Date: November 29, 2016 09:32AM

7G6jv Wrote:
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> as in... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Probably more, but that's off the top of my
> brain.
> > Which of those lacrosse players don't you
> think
> > play actual football on Westfield's defense?
>
> The ironic thing is that some of South Lakes best
> players also play lacrosse.

Not to mention Jewell, Roberson, Free and Lydic aren't playing lacrosse this year. They aren't lacrosse players playing football, they're football players who used to play lacrosse.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Lax ()
Date: November 29, 2016 09:56AM

Actually, there best player is already committed to play lax at ohio state.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: so ()
Date: November 29, 2016 03:17PM

All of those players are just multisport athletes, probably identifying with whatever sport is in season. Free and Jewell are still playing lacrosse, Roberson is not playing lacrosse because of a torn ACL. Don't know if Lydic still plays or not. Doesn't matter, and Westfield Lax had the best response to restonlakes, since Alston is heading to OSU.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: didn't know ()
Date: November 29, 2016 04:19PM

Westfield Lax Wrote:
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> Actually, there best player is already committed
> to play lax at ohio state.

Didn't know OSU had a lax team, are they any good.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: NovaFBFan ()
Date: November 29, 2016 05:26PM

I like South Lakes's chances on Saturday. Westfield has lost 4 of the last 5 regional championships. One of the big reasons they won last year was because of Tyler Scanlon, the transfer from PVI. Westfield may struggle with South Lakes's speed. Madison's receivers were getting open against the Bulldogs "sophomore secondary" until their top receiver went down with an injury. Westfield's secondary seems to play 5-7 yards off the receiver which allows for quick out plays. I also don't think much of Westfield's running game. It resembles nothing like previous years. Their sophomore running back has been fumbling lately and was even benched in the Madison game. Yes we all need to acknowledge the fact that the Westfield defensive coaches prepare their kids very well for every game and put them in the best positions to be sussessful, however if you put their star players on another high school team, I bet they don't look as good. Maybe Westfield will surprise me on Saturday but I think South Lakes has too many weapons and is too hungry to prove themselves. Obviously having gone 1 for 5 in the last 5 Regional Final games they are maybe happy with just playing in the game.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: DMDVc ()
Date: November 30, 2016 07:00AM

DMDVc

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: j7WyW ()
Date: November 30, 2016 07:05AM

NovaFBFan Wrote:
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> I like South Lakes's chances on Saturday.
> Westfield has lost 4 of the last 5 regional
> championships. One of the big reasons they won
> last year was because of Tyler Scanlon, the
> transfer from PVI. Westfield may struggle with
> South Lakes's speed. Madison's receivers were
> getting open against the Bulldogs "sophomore
> secondary" until their top receiver went down with
> an injury. Westfield's secondary seems to play 5-7
> yards off the receiver which allows for quick out
> plays. I also don't think much of Westfield's
> running game. It resembles nothing like previous
> years. Their sophomore running back has been
> fumbling lately and was even benched in the
> Madison game. Yes we all need to acknowledge the
> fact that the Westfield defensive coaches prepare
> their kids very well for every game and put them
> in the best positions to be sussessful, however if
> you put their star players on another high school
> team, I bet they don't look as good. Maybe
> Westfield will surprise me on Saturday but I think
> South Lakes has too many weapons and is too hungry
> to prove themselves. Obviously having gone 1 for 5
> in the last 5 Regional Final games they are maybe
> happy with just playing in the game.

You cannot deny Westfield's 1 for 5 in the last several region finals. But keep it in context. 2011 vs Centreville was a fantastic game, one of the best I have ever seen, between two virtually equal opponents-both of whom were far better than any other teams that year and every team this year. 2012, WF played one of their worst games of the year and ran into a motivated and hot Oakton team. That is the only game of the 5 they really blew-it happens. 2013 and 2014, CV was just a juggernaut and put out arguably two of the top 6-7 teams in this area in the last 15 years; again, either CV or WF from both years was better than any team this year but WF was not the best team in the area those two years but was good enough to make it to the final. 2015 they get the win. This year, the top teams are just not as strong as in years past and any of the top 5-6 teams were capable of emerging from the region. Just so happens that SL and WF emerged. The balance is there but the overall quality is a bit down.

One thing you cannot deny is WF is the most consistently, highest performing team the region has ever had.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: November 30, 2016 10:23AM

j7WyW Wrote:
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> You cannot deny Westfield's 1 for 5 in the last
> several region finals. But keep it in context.
> 2011 vs Centreville was a fantastic game, one of
> the best I have ever seen, between two virtually
> equal opponents-both of whom were far better than
> any other teams that year and every team this
> year. 2012, WF played one of their worst games of
> the year and ran into a motivated and hot Oakton
> team. That is the only game of the 5 they really
> blew-it happens. 2013 and 2014, CV was just a
> juggernaut and put out arguably two of the top 6-7
> teams in this area in the last 15 years; again,
> either CV or WF from both years was better than
> any team this year but WF was not the best team in
> the area those two years but was good enough to
> make it to the final. 2015 they get the win. This
> year, the top teams are just not as strong as in
> years past and any of the top 5-6 teams were
> capable of emerging from the region. Just so
> happens that SL and WF emerged. The balance is
> there but the overall quality is a bit down.
>
> One thing you cannot deny is WF is the most
> consistently, highest performing team the region
> has ever had.

Time to give some props to Coach Simmons. His playoff record at Westfield is better than Verbanic’s. Verbanic was 12-7 in 9 playoff appearances (out of 11 years coaching at Westfield). Simmons is currently 18-4 in 6 playoff appearances.

And realistically he’s doing it for the most part without a plethora next level players.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Next Level Playa ()
Date: November 30, 2016 11:48AM

while an 18-4 Record is quite an accomplishment, amassing that Record with out "a plethora of next Level players" says a lot about those athletes on the Team(s) playing as a TEAM and not relying on a "SUPERSTAR" to Carry the Load.

its definitely a TEAM effort at Westfield, Instilled by the Coaching Staff, However lived and delivered by the Players. Westfield is fortunate to Have the Staff they Have and the Culture that has withstood the Years.

As for the "NEXT LEVEL PLAYER" that's a whole other discussion. Some Schools/Coaches go above and beyond to promote THEIR Athletes While others look down their Noses!

Regardless the Next Level will find those Athletes, until then Westfield Football might just go on winning with Next Level Wrestlers, Basketball Players, Lacrosse Players, Baseball Players, Track Athletes, while their ALL- STATE Football Players carry-on at Community College, Armed Forces, or otherwise...

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Reality ()
Date: November 30, 2016 12:58PM

Westfield doesn't have the college talent that it used to, but most of the Fairfax schools have seen the same talent drain. There are still lots of great HS football players in the area, but there just aren't as many kids who have the size, skill, and athletic ability to earn scholarships as there were 10 years ago.
Westfield, however, still has top 3-4 talent in the county. If you get a chance to watch them they have several big athletic kids that aren't common expect at Lake Braddock, South County, and Centreville. Westfield has great coaches, but the guys at Madison and South Lakes have gotten a lot out of kids who may not be as talented.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Football Fan ()
Date: November 30, 2016 03:32PM

Westfield Reality Wrote:
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> Westfield doesn't have the college talent that it
> used to, but most of the Fairfax schools have seen
> the same talent drain. There are still lots of
> great HS football players in the area, but there
> just aren't as many kids who have the size, skill,
> and athletic ability to earn scholarships as there
> were 10 years ago.
> Westfield, however, still has top 3-4 talent in
> the county. If you get a chance to watch them
> they have several big athletic kids that aren't
> common expect at Lake Braddock, South County, and
> Centreville. Westfield has great coaches, but the
> guys at Madison and South Lakes have gotten a lot
> out of kids who may not be as talented.

Westfield is good cause of the black kids.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: frequentwatcheroffootball ()
Date: November 30, 2016 07:18PM

Anyone alive when back in 1991 when South Lakes last won the region?

BTW, a google search on the Rowe dude is a little creepy.
Attachments:
southlakes1991.jpg

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quiet Dogs ()
Date: November 30, 2016 11:02PM

Westfield fans are very quiet lately. Have there been injuries to key players or do they just know what's coming against South Lakes? Maybe they've already given up knowing what's waiting for them down in Hampton?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quiet Dogs ()
Date: December 01, 2016 06:26AM

Crickets............. Chirping crickets.............

The silence is deafening!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: December 01, 2016 06:39AM

Us Westfield fans rarely talk trash in the first place. The person who's been talking shit and claiming that Westfield is gods team is obviously a troll, if you actually think he's a fan then you have problems. Westfield has 2 linebackers that are out for the season, and there's was an O-Linemen that got hurt last game but I don't know his status. Westfield was supposed to lose last year too, in fact, they were the underdog in the last 3 games. They ended up out scoring their opponents 120-57. Their opponents were Lake Braddock, SOCO, and Oscar Smith. South Lakes has a good team so this might be a challenge for Westfield, but I just don't think South Lakes has the talent to match Westfield, and they sure as hell don't have the coaching to match Westfield. Good luck to the Seahawks and Bulldogs!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Might be? ()
Date: December 01, 2016 08:03AM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Us Westfield fans rarely talk trash in the first
> place. The person who's been talking shit and
> claiming that Westfield is gods team is obviously
> a troll, if you actually think he's a fan then you
> have problems. Westfield has 2 linebackers that
> are out for the season, and there's was an
> O-Linemen that got hurt last game but I don't know
> his status. Westfield was supposed to lose last
> year too, in fact, they were the underdog in the
> last 3 games. They ended up out scoring their
> opponents 120-57. Their opponents were Lake
> Braddock, SOCO, and Oscar Smith. South Lakes has a
> good team so this might be a challenge for
> Westfield, but I just don't think South Lakes has
> the talent to match Westfield, and they sure as
> hell don't have the coaching to match Westfield.
> Good luck to the Seahawks and Bulldogs!

Who are the two linebackers that are out? I think "might be a challenge" is the type of thinking that gives teams playoff losses. Lake Braddock also thought South Lakes "might" be a challenge.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Westfield Rulez ()
Date: December 01, 2016 09:25AM

I dont know about trolls but I know Westfield is the best and always will be

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quiet Dogs ()
Date: December 01, 2016 11:23AM

Not sure Westfield was the Underdog throughout the playoffs last year. I saw the State game and Westfield had a monstrous O- line, great linebackers. and a disciplined team. Oscar Smith was a much smaller team but a lot faster and more aggressive both offensively and defensively. Westfield's size proved to be the advantage in Triple OverTime. The 2016 version is still very disciplined but their advantages from last year have graduated.

If Westfield Has key players out at their strength areas, discipline will keep them in the game but South Lakes should have the advantage. Too bad as I'd love to see a Smith vs Westfield rematch!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Injured players ()
Date: December 01, 2016 11:31AM

I heard some chatter that Zach Jewell (D end) re-sprained his ankle in practice this week after hurting it against centreville a few weeks back. He's played nearly every snap this year on defense when the starters were in. If he's out, who's there to replace him? And obviously cole Roberson is out with a torn knee. Two very important starters for the Westfield D.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quiet Dogs ()
Date: December 01, 2016 11:48AM

So, a couple of linebackers, O-Line player AND a DE are all out? Maybe an injury list is needed? Can anyone provide a verifiable report on these players?

No wonder the enthusiasm has fallen off big time at the worst time for Westfield.

South Lakes is being very humble given their opportunity to whip a powerhouse and get to the State 6A finals!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Lifer ()
Date: December 01, 2016 11:49AM

Quiet Dogs Wrote:
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> Not sure Westfield was the Underdog throughout the
> playoffs last year. I saw the State game and
> Westfield had a monstrous O- line, great
> linebackers. and a disciplined team. Oscar Smith
> was a much smaller team but a lot faster and more
> aggressive both offensively and defensively.
> Westfield's size proved to be the advantage in
> Triple OverTime. The 2016 version is still very
> disciplined but their advantages from last year
> have graduated.
>
> If Westfield Has key players out at their strength
> areas, discipline will keep them in the game but
> South Lakes should have the advantage. Too bad as
> I'd love to see a Smith vs Westfield rematch!


Last year Westfield was the underdog going into SoCo, despite the shitkicking they gave them in that game. Not sure either Westfield or Smith was really a favorite, as both had strengths and weaknesses, and nobody could say which would win out.

The loss of that huge offensive line is obvious when you look at this year's crappy running game. That hurts the passing game, except long strikes to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year. Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not close to complete.

If Jewell is hurt, Westfield is screwed. Jewells pressure on the QB is the only thing saving the small DB's from getting destroyed. Also, he is one of a couple of kids who play both ways, so the offense will be hurt as well.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: westfielddadx2 ()
Date: December 01, 2016 11:51AM

Everyone's banged up this time of year. No one is getting any sympathy from anyone. Roberson did not play in the Madison game so while it is a loss others stepped up. Westfield LBs were hurt all season so a lot of kids got playing time. Just miss the size and experience of #42.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Quiet Dogs ()
Date: December 01, 2016 12:23PM

South Lakes still has to go into Bulldog terrify & take the title away from Westfield. But, they have to be happy with their chances against a weakened opponent.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Lifer ()
Date: December 01, 2016 12:47PM

Quiet Dogs Wrote:
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> South Lakes still has to go into Bulldog terrify &
> take the title away from Westfield. But, they have
> to be happy with their chances against a weakened
> opponent.


No more weakened than anybody else. Roberson being out hurts, but he wasn't even a starter at the beginning of the season. The kid he replaced is more than capable and has played a lot this season. WFdadx2 is right. Everyone has played a lot, and as long as the main players are there, they will be fine. Jewell is a main player. I haven't heard he won't be playing, and I think that information is wrong. Westfield will be fine. If they find a way to run the ball, they will win by 3 touchdowns. If they don't, they will win by one touchdown.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: GMGFU ()
Date: December 01, 2016 01:41PM

WF Lifer Wrote:
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> That hurts the passing game, except long strikes
> to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year.
> Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to
> Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to
> Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not
> close to complete.

I agree with what you are saying but Frimpong is no slouch. He can make plays. One can only hope SL does ignore him for Eckert.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Lifer ()
Date: December 01, 2016 01:59PM

GMGFU Wrote:
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> WF Lifer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That hurts the passing game, except long
> strikes
> > to Eckert, who has become The Offense this year.
>
> > Johnson now looking to Eckert 1st and then to
> > Frimpong instead of just trying to force it to
> > Frimpong saved the offense, but it is still not
> > close to complete.
>
> I agree with what you are saying but Frimpong is
> no slouch. He can make plays. One can only hope
> SL does ignore him for Eckert.


Frimpong is as athletic as Eckert and not a slouch, but Eckert has much better hands especially in traffic. The number of drops Frimpong has over two years is high, although he does has some great catches as well. Sometimes he makes the hard catches and drops the easy ones. Agreed that if South Lakes doubles or focuses on Eckert and leaves Frimpong man-up, then he has all the tools necessary to get open and hopefully make the catch.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A North Champs ()
Date: December 01, 2016 10:30PM

I have crowned South Lakes 6A North Regional Champs! With all the injuries for Westfield & a South Lakes defense ready for the Bulldogs, I don't see a possibility for any other outcome.

SO, onward to Hampton. Who wins between Oscar Smith vs South Lakes?

I think a 3rd try for Shon Mitchell get him his ring!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: The Book ()
Date: December 02, 2016 06:04AM

^^^^ VEGAS Would Never Handicap your Injury Report..Your Source(s) would get you Killed.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: 6A North Champs ()
Date: December 02, 2016 07:20AM

Wellllll, I am just an ass and I may have made a premature prediction about South Lakes winning the North Region. So, Westfield could still win. Of course they win.

SO, onward to Hampton. Who wins between Oscar Smith vs Westfield?

I think a 3rd try for Shon Mitchell gets him his ring! I don't think it matters who wins 6A North!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Injuries ()
Date: December 02, 2016 07:21AM

South lakes plays 8 guys both ways with around 30 non freshmen dressing. You don't think they are probably a little banged up too? That's what usually saves Westfield because they have numbers and depth. Weakened Westfield team? Please they will still win. If they lose don't blame it on being a weakened team that's ridiculous.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL ()
Date: December 02, 2016 07:25AM

True. I saw a few freshman playing against lake Braddock on special teams. That's crazy.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: New Blood ()
Date: December 02, 2016 07:55AM

Glad to see New blood, New faces and someone else becoming a power. South Lakes should be good for a while. Welcome to the club, but your fans are too quiet on FFU and are boring. We're used to brash claims and narcissistic behavior. Just too humble!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: restonlakes ()
Date: December 02, 2016 09:36AM

New Blood Wrote:
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> Glad to see New blood, New faces and someone else
> becoming a power. South Lakes should be good for a
> while. Welcome to the club, but your fans are too
> quiet on FFU and are boring. We're used to brash
> claims and narcissistic behavior. Just too humble!

I bin tryin! Truth = South Lakes nearly knocked off the state champs last season. They are better than last year and Westfield is not as good. I will step out and guarnatee a win. I am making my hotel reservations in Hampton today.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Last year? ()
Date: December 02, 2016 10:36AM

Why do people keep bringing up last years Westfield vs. South Lakes game?? Nobody said Westfield was good last year before they moved scanlon to receiver. In fact, they were rather average. So South Lakes took their best shot at a mediocre Westfield team with literally no offense at the time and still lost 24-13.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Weaker Westfield ()
Date: December 02, 2016 11:05AM

No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was only effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass interference calls would go against him. He simply used the same push off move which was never called during the basketball games to get open. The worst example was during the triple OT game against Smith. If the refs had the balls to have made that call, the outcome would have been flipped!

So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South Lakes Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know Smith would love to get at this weaker version of the Bulldogs!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Fan ()
Date: December 02, 2016 11:50AM

Weaker Westfield Wrote:
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> No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year
> without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was only
> effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass
> interference calls would go against him. He simply
> used the same push off move which was never called
> during the basketball games to get open. The
> worst example was during the triple OT game
> against Smith. If the refs had the balls to have
> made that call, the outcome would have been
> flipped!
>
> So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South Lakes
> Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know Smith
> would love to get at this weaker version of the
> Bulldogs!

You don't get it. The Westfield team this year is defiantly less talented than the one last year, however, Johnson is a far better QB than Scanlon. So the version of Westfield this year should atleast be better on offense than last year. Additionally, this spread offense bullshit won't work on Westfield. SOCO arguably had the best offense in the area and were dominated by Westfield's D 2 years in a row.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Weaker/Stronger ()
Date: December 02, 2016 11:50AM

Good thing Thanksgiving just passed, a lot of People on here should still have their Pie Plates out, Eat Up, Humble Pie will be served!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WF Lifer ()
Date: December 02, 2016 12:30PM

WF Fan Wrote:
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> Weaker Westfield Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No I agree.. Westfield is not as good last year
> > without Scanlon. For what it's worth he was
> only
> > effective because he learned ZERO offensive
> pass
> > interference calls would go against him. He
> simply
> > used the same push off move which was never
> called
> > during the basketball games to get open. The
> > worst example was during the triple OT game
> > against Smith. If the refs had the balls to
> have
> > made that call, the outcome would have been
> > flipped!
> >
> > So, moving to tomorrow's game, I see South
> Lakes
> > Handling Westfield. Too bad because I know
> Smith
> > would love to get at this weaker version of the
> > Bulldogs!
>
> You don't get it. The Westfield team this year is
> defiantly less talented than the one last year,
> however, Johnson is a far better QB than Scanlon.
> So the version of Westfield this year should
> atleast be better on offense than last year.
> Additionally, this spread offense bullshit won't
> work on Westfield. SOCO arguably had the best
> offense in the area and were dominated by
> Westfield's D 2 years in a row.

They are not "definitely less talented." Offensively, the line is less talented, especially in size and strength. Johnson is significantly better than Scanlon, especially as this season has progressed. Current RB's are no better or worse than last year. WR's are an improvement this year, even if you look at the State game when Scanlon moved to WR. TE's are better. Cockrill a year older and better, and when he moves to FB, Jewell is fine.

Defense is about the same. Jewell has come on to be a force, replacing Aeillo's great play last year. The rest of the line has played fine. Petrillo is a year older and better. Lydic is a fine replacement for Roberson. The secondary is young, but improving - this is the same every year, though. Free is excellent back there as well. There are a couple of weaknesses, but I am not going to single out anybody, and the coaches can scheme around them. If you were at the Madison game, that first long run was a result of a missed tackle. Other than that, there was one long drive for Madison and that was it. South County is an "offensive power" and was shut down. I don't understand people who do not think the Westfield D is legit.

South Lakes has a couple of go to plays. Westfield will be ready for them. If South Lakes can still move the ball, then they will deserve the win. I don't think that will happen.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: WE6TU ()
Date: December 02, 2016 12:49PM

Weaker Westfield Wrote:
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> For what it's worth he was only
> effective because he learned ZERO offensive pass
> interference calls would go against him. He simply
> used the same push off move

Tip: it isn't worth shit. This ranks as one of the stupidest things written on FFXU in some time. Have you even watched his Hudl highlights? If you look at 30 catches maybe a handful might have a pushoff. Maybe. Sour grapes.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Scanlon ()
Date: December 02, 2016 01:00PM

All my touchdown catches were because I know how to push off without getting caught!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Skanlon ()
Date: December 02, 2016 01:14PM

Oh and being a superior Human being at 6'-6" tall that helped too, and it wasn't so much a push off as a hand swipe, kind of like when I would Drive to the Hole in B-Ball, check out those high-lights also, got a ring there as well!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: South Lakes breakdown ()
Date: December 02, 2016 02:48PM

Can anybody give me an objective breakdown of South lakes steengths and weaknesses, offensively and defensively? Lots of people here with a lot to say about Westfield, and I keep seeing the same names thrown around. Besides general South Lakesnisnfast and runs a spread offense with some gimmicks, what are some individual matchups or position play that will matter and I should look for?

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: wKPhN ()
Date: December 02, 2016 03:02PM

Skanlon Wrote:
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> Oh and being a superior Human being at 6'-6" tall
> that helped too, and it wasn't so much a push off
> as a hand swipe, kind of like when I would Drive
> to the Hole in B-Ball, check out those high-lights
> also, got a ring there as well!

Nothing wrong with a hand swipe you sick little troll.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SouthLakes ()
Date: December 02, 2016 03:03PM

I think it's fair to say that most of the comments are based upon what we have seen from Westfield. So you either need to watch film or actually go see SL play. Don't expect anyone to spoon feed you on FFU.

From what I gather South Lakes sounds like they may have a really good defense which is not being talked about. For them to shut down Lake Braddock's powerful run game, create turnovers via fumbles & interceptions, AND have a deceptive Spread Offensive attack, I would have to believe Westfield will have their hands full tomorrow.

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Date: December 02, 2016 04:17PM


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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: objective ()
Date: December 02, 2016 04:26PM

Here's your objective it's week 14 anything is possible and then again Cinderella was a Fairy Tale

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: talking Defense ()
Date: December 02, 2016 05:03PM

Here's an objective, South Lakes and Centreville exposed a vastly over rated Lake Braddock
South Lakes gave up 22 pts to what many Heralded as the next 6A state Champs.

Centreville Gave up 7 pts to what Many Heralded as the next 6A State Champs

I would venture to Say Tre Taylor and his Staff Studied Centreville as to their keys to Success. Good for them if they Did. Just Hope they Didn't also Study Centreville for their Success against Westfield. A 35 - 0 beat Down that could have been 60-0

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: FACTSonFACTS ()
Date: December 02, 2016 09:34PM

SL last won the region in 2002.


frequentwatcheroffootball Wrote:
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> Anyone alive when back in 1991 when South Lakes
> last won the region?
>
> BTW, a google search on the Rowe dude is a little
> creepy.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: the end of an era ()
Date: December 02, 2016 09:51PM

The non-passage of the meals tax will mean serious budget cuts, and sports just can't be justified. Say GOODBYE to football!

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: pyjV4 ()
Date: December 02, 2016 10:08PM

Injuries Wrote:
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> South lakes plays 8 guys both ways with around 30
> non freshmen dressing.

I was watching a little film and I'm not seeing 8 guys playing both ways on an every down basis. Maybe 4 (79, 25, 11, 2). I think you are exaggerating a little. Is interesting their roster lists 11 seniors and 13 freshman. Virtually all but 2 of their impact players are underclassmen. They should be a great team for awhile.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: What? ()
Date: December 03, 2016 07:29AM

You can't watch film then. Both middle linebackers start at guard. 24 is their starting d end and running back. And 75 gets some burn at guard and starts at D end. #4 looked like he played both ways but was carted off the field last week with serious leg injury so he is out. So, 79, 25, 11, 2, 56, 51, 75, 24. And #4 is out so who knows what that will do for depth. Following the team a little they have had some injuries they had to overcome a starting offensive guard and another nose guard are out for the year. Looks like they are just hanging on. Lot of two way guys. I don't know how you can miss 56 and 51 in your film study not playing both ways? They never come off. Btw they are extremely underrated as linebackers. Undersized but really good players.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: SL1991 ()
Date: December 03, 2016 07:52AM

I've been to all but 3 SL games this year and let me tell you that this is the most talented team I have seen since the early 90s. However, we are very thin in the area of depth. We only had 44 JV/Varsity players this year (Our freshman team only had 23 players). I'm not sure why we seen such a drastic drop in numbers especially since we have had a couple of good seasons.

I'm confident that we will beat Westfield. I think that we have to play a very smart and disciplined game but our confidence is at an all time high right now and the kids are ready to take it to the next level. I've seen Westfield on film and they didn't impress me.The region will be put on notice today! Balance of power has shifted.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Cyalater Haters ()
Date: December 03, 2016 08:00AM

The South Lakes trash talking and confidence is great to see! I hope it is a great game today.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Redistrict ()
Date: December 03, 2016 08:20AM

The ironic thing about the players you guys are discussing is that #21,#25,#51,#56, #11, #79 all come from the neighborhood that was recently redistriced from Oakton to SL.

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Re: High School Football 2016
Posted by: Holy Prognostication Batman! ()
Date: December 03, 2016 08:31AM

Football Fan Wrote:
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> Westfield vs South Lakes NR Final. Book it.


Posted Oct 1st. Good call FB Fan!

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