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How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Parched and Broke In Herndon
()
Date: June 21, 2006 01:08AM
Author's note: The following email was sent to the comments@ address of a popular Herndon chili house website. So far no response.
Dear Sir or Madam:
I am not the kind of person that generates correspondence to companies about service or experiences after patronizing an establishment, but yesterday's event did not meet my expectations as a customer. After a long day at work I decided to stop off at in Herndon. At around 4 pm I ordered a tall Sierra Nevada IPA from the bar. Generally speaking, while at a bar, one does not inquire into the price of beer or other cocktails. There is a certain presumption on what a beer will cost based on the establishment, location and other factors. Secondly, one may be cast in a certain light by others engaging in revelry. There may even be an argument with the statement that inquiring into the pricing of a refreshing afternoon palliative at a pub or taproom could be considered a social faux pas. An inquiry as such certainly will not endear one with, pardon my use of a common colloquialism, "da bitches". Considering these factors, I did not catechize the barkeep into providing a price list.
The maiden's service was prompt and cheerful. I subsequently quaffed the brew with great delight. The temperature was ideal. It poured a medium golden yellow with a half finger head that melted to slight lacing. The aroma was a medium sweet malt and heavy citrus hops. Ah, but I digress with my encomium. At my predetermined departure time the barkeep presented the invoice for goods and services. I was quickly overcome by shock and awe that I had incurred a debt of seven dollars and ninety-nine cents for a single beer. I struggled to maintain my cool composure while I wondered how this could be possible. I discretely inquired into the accuracy of the accounting on my tab. The young lady confirmed that the amount I was in arrears was correctly enumerated. Surmising that the quickest method to remove this unexpected albatross from around my neck was to insert a crowbar into my billfold, I presented my attendant with ten smackeroos.
To be pithy, I feel the enjoyment to pricing ratio f{:-) / $} exceeded accepted norms. I seek no redress since as the buyer, I must beware, but these circumstances have made me reconsider your establishment as a venue for after work indulgences.
I hope this information proves helpful in maintaining or expanding your market share in your industry.
Sincerely,
A concerned patron
Dear Sir or Madam:
I am not the kind of person that generates correspondence to companies about service or experiences after patronizing an establishment, but yesterday's event did not meet my expectations as a customer. After a long day at work I decided to stop off at in Herndon. At around 4 pm I ordered a tall Sierra Nevada IPA from the bar. Generally speaking, while at a bar, one does not inquire into the price of beer or other cocktails. There is a certain presumption on what a beer will cost based on the establishment, location and other factors. Secondly, one may be cast in a certain light by others engaging in revelry. There may even be an argument with the statement that inquiring into the pricing of a refreshing afternoon palliative at a pub or taproom could be considered a social faux pas. An inquiry as such certainly will not endear one with, pardon my use of a common colloquialism, "da bitches". Considering these factors, I did not catechize the barkeep into providing a price list.
The maiden's service was prompt and cheerful. I subsequently quaffed the brew with great delight. The temperature was ideal. It poured a medium golden yellow with a half finger head that melted to slight lacing. The aroma was a medium sweet malt and heavy citrus hops. Ah, but I digress with my encomium. At my predetermined departure time the barkeep presented the invoice for goods and services. I was quickly overcome by shock and awe that I had incurred a debt of seven dollars and ninety-nine cents for a single beer. I struggled to maintain my cool composure while I wondered how this could be possible. I discretely inquired into the accuracy of the accounting on my tab. The young lady confirmed that the amount I was in arrears was correctly enumerated. Surmising that the quickest method to remove this unexpected albatross from around my neck was to insert a crowbar into my billfold, I presented my attendant with ten smackeroos.
To be pithy, I feel the enjoyment to pricing ratio f{:-) / $} exceeded accepted norms. I seek no redress since as the buyer, I must beware, but these circumstances have made me reconsider your establishment as a venue for after work indulgences.
I hope this information proves helpful in maintaining or expanding your market share in your industry.
Sincerely,
A concerned patron
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
well done
()
Date: June 21, 2006 01:19AM
Well written. That's probably why the staff couldn't understand it (and therefore respond).
And what is the name of this costly establishment?
And what is the name of this costly establishment?
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: June 21, 2006 09:15AM
That's probably not too far off for a tall premium (i.e. non Bud) beer. I'd expect $6-7 myself but $8 doesn't surprise me that much.
If it's a chili chain and it's in Herndon then it's probably Hard Times Cafe.
If it's a chili chain and it's in Herndon then it's probably Hard Times Cafe.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
bunch of drunks
()
Date: June 21, 2006 10:33AM
fuckin drunk ass
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Fairfax MF-er
()
Date: June 21, 2006 10:47AM
1. If it is one of those honking big glasses, then $8 isn't out of the question. If it was a pint, you were ripped off.
2. However, if the price of your beer is that much of an issue, buy your IPA from Safeway. Seriously. If you are on that much of a budget, either buy your beer from a grocery store or frequent your typical no-name dive bar if you want conversation. A restaurant makes most of its money off of alcohol, not food, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.
2. However, if the price of your beer is that much of an issue, buy your IPA from Safeway. Seriously. If you are on that much of a budget, either buy your beer from a grocery store or frequent your typical no-name dive bar if you want conversation. A restaurant makes most of its money off of alcohol, not food, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: June 21, 2006 01:08PM
In Virginia we have laws dictating the percentage of sales you can have of alcohol versus food in a restaurant. This is to prevent places that have a bar from becoming JUST a bar. So it is possible restaurants in this state do NOT make most of their money from alcohol.
Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant and exceed the limit.
Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant and exceed the limit.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Tim45
()
Date: June 21, 2006 04:01PM
Man, after that long ass speech no wonder you were thirsty.
Just pay the bill and dont go there anymore. How hard is that? If it was Hard Times I am not surprised. The chili there isnt anything special yet the price is through the roof. I would imagine the beer is also.
By the way if your funds are so limited just do what the mexicans do, pool your money for a six pack from 7-11 and drink it behind the store. If you go that route make sure you are armed with a machete, they are.
Just pay the bill and dont go there anymore. How hard is that? If it was Hard Times I am not surprised. The chili there isnt anything special yet the price is through the roof. I would imagine the beer is also.
By the way if your funds are so limited just do what the mexicans do, pool your money for a six pack from 7-11 and drink it behind the store. If you go that route make sure you are armed with a machete, they are.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
KeepOnTruckin
()
Date: July 10, 2006 12:45PM
I didn't know half the words in that. How are your supposed to understand it?
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
stinkypoon
()
Date: July 10, 2006 01:30PM
Go to Buffalo Wing University in Fairfax. They have some 20 beers on tap and you won't pay more than $4.50 for a 23oz beer. Decent scenery there too, lots of college girls.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: July 10, 2006 01:43PM
Yeah but lots of health code violations.
http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/VDH/Fairfax/Fairfax_Website.nsf/Food-InspectionDetails?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=894C02A95234B2768825718F004728EB&Count=1000
http://www.healthspace.ca/Clients/VDH/Fairfax/Fairfax_Website.nsf/Food-InspectionDetails?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=894C02A95234B2768825718F004728EB&Count=1000
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
stinkypoon
()
Date: July 10, 2006 02:01PM
holy crap that's disgusting. good thing i only go there to drink!
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: July 10, 2006 05:29PM
What do you drink the beer out of? If it's a glass then the cook probably hand-washed it after balling up raw meat or something. Go bottled beer only.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
mad max, JD
()
Date: July 10, 2006 05:32PM
I like to drink beer.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: July 10, 2006 05:45PM
I don't like beer or liquor, I like to do just about everything else that exists though.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: July 10, 2006 07:50PM
> Buffalo Wing University
>"The food handler was observed eating a boiled egg along the cookline ..."
NICE!! Almost as bad as the time I pulled up to the BK drive-thru in Hunters Woods and handed my money to the cahiser woman whose mouth was stuffed with french fries.
>"The food handler was observed eating a boiled egg along the cookline ..."
NICE!! Almost as bad as the time I pulled up to the BK drive-thru in Hunters Woods and handed my money to the cahiser woman whose mouth was stuffed with french fries.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
MrDoctor
()
Date: July 11, 2006 05:59PM
where did you buy the beer at
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Mofo
()
Date: July 11, 2006 10:13PM
VA ABC are fuckin worthless Nazis. They will go undercover into a resturant and make sure that every bottle there is both from in VA (cause you could save a lot of money buying it out of state without their added monolopy premiums) or they will try to bring in a bottle of wine and open it up in a resturant. If they find said illegial booze they will get you under rico laws for smuggling illicit booze from out of state.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: July 11, 2006 10:27PM
>VA ABC are fuckin worthless Nazis. They will go undercover into a resturant...
Mofo, where did this happen at? I know some food-service managers in the area, and never heard this level of complaint about ABC. I've also never heard of that ridiculous RICO situation you mention. Where did these incidents happen?
I'm not sayin' it didn't really happen, but applying RICO statutes- c'mon!!
Mofo, where did this happen at? I know some food-service managers in the area, and never heard this level of complaint about ABC. I've also never heard of that ridiculous RICO situation you mention. Where did these incidents happen?
I'm not sayin' it didn't really happen, but applying RICO statutes- c'mon!!
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
burpgun
()
Date: July 11, 2006 10:44PM
I hope you didn't display the same degree of pretentious verbosity at the bar as you did in that post. Being subjected to that bombastic diarrhea would merit an additional $5 on the tab in itself...
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Mofo
()
Date: July 12, 2006 06:55PM
The bottle check happened at a very nice Italian place near the FFX court house (a worker there told me about it). I don't know if the rico thing was ever filed against anyone but they may threaten it. I talked to a bartender recently in Springfield and asked them if they had ever been there when there was a bottle check and she said no but she had heard about them. There's a wine you can get at trader joe's we call it 2 buck chuck in CA (Charles Shaw) but here it's 3-4 dollars after the VA import surcharge. Go to DC/MD it will be cheaper (but bringing more than one bottle across state lines without a abc license is illegial).
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: July 12, 2006 07:46PM
That's a crazy story, especially that fact they went in "undercover", I'm pretty sure they could just walk in and request to see all of the invoices for the liquor inventory. That must have been a funny scene. Frankly, any restaurant that's skirting the law by using unlicensed shippers deserves to get busted anyway. And maybe the taxes have changed over the past 12 years, but when I lived in DC and MD, booze prices were always cheaper in NoVA.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
beer seller nagger
()
Date: July 12, 2006 08:01PM
$55.69
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
beer seller nagger
()
Date: July 12, 2006 08:01PM
$55.69. ok?
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
IMNSHO
()
Date: October 14, 2011 04:22PM
$16.04/FL.OZ and not a penny more!!
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
dont no nuttin
()
Date: October 14, 2011 04:33PM
Parched and Broke In Herndon Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Author's note: The following email was sent to
> the comments@ address of a popular Herndon chili
> house website. So far no response.
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> I am not the kind of person that generates
> correspondence to companies about service or
> experiences after patronizing an establishment,
> but yesterday's event did not meet my expectations
> as a customer. After a long day at work I decided
> to stop off at in Herndon. At around 4 pm I
> ordered a tall Sierra Nevada IPA from the bar.
> Generally speaking, while at a bar, one does not
> inquire into the price of beer or other cocktails.
> There is a certain presumption on what a beer
> will cost based on the establishment, location and
> other factors. Secondly, one may be cast in a
> certain light by others engaging in revelry.
> There may even be an argument with the statement
> that inquiring into the pricing of a refreshing
> afternoon palliative at a pub or taproom could be
> considered a social faux pas. An inquiry as such
> certainly will not endear one with, pardon my use
> of a common colloquialism, "da bitches".
> Considering these factors, I did not catechize the
> barkeep into providing a price list.
>
> The maiden's service was prompt and cheerful. I
> subsequently quaffed the brew with great delight.
> The temperature was ideal. It poured a medium
> golden yellow with a half finger head that melted
> to slight lacing. The aroma was a medium sweet
> malt and heavy citrus hops. Ah, but I digress
> with my encomium. At my predetermined departure
> time the barkeep presented the invoice for goods
> and services. I was quickly overcome by shock and
> awe that I had incurred a debt of seven dollars
> and ninety-nine cents for a single beer. I
> struggled to maintain my cool composure while I
> wondered how this could be possible. I discretely
> inquired into the accuracy of the accounting on my
> tab. The young lady confirmed that the amount I
> was in arrears was correctly enumerated.
> Surmising that the quickest method to remove this
> unexpected albatross from around my neck was to
> insert a crowbar into my billfold, I presented my
> attendant with ten smackeroos.
>
> To be pithy, I feel the enjoyment to pricing ratio
> f{:-) / $} exceeded accepted norms. I seek no
> redress since as the buyer, I must beware, but
> these circumstances have made me reconsider your
> establishment as a venue for after work
> indulgences.
>
> I hope this information proves helpful in
> maintaining or expanding your market share in your
> industry.
>
> Sincerely,
> A concerned patron
Well Hawt damn, we must got ourselves a damn foreigner speaking all that 1800's mambo jambo 'bout quaffin, and colloquialism. Hell this aint no down under shit. I bet this fool drinks his beer, with his pinky sticking out and his snooty nose all erect. I bet ya, this guys/womans asshole is tighter than frogs pussy!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Author's note: The following email was sent to
> the comments@ address of a popular Herndon chili
> house website. So far no response.
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> I am not the kind of person that generates
> correspondence to companies about service or
> experiences after patronizing an establishment,
> but yesterday's event did not meet my expectations
> as a customer. After a long day at work I decided
> to stop off at in Herndon. At around 4 pm I
> ordered a tall Sierra Nevada IPA from the bar.
> Generally speaking, while at a bar, one does not
> inquire into the price of beer or other cocktails.
> There is a certain presumption on what a beer
> will cost based on the establishment, location and
> other factors. Secondly, one may be cast in a
> certain light by others engaging in revelry.
> There may even be an argument with the statement
> that inquiring into the pricing of a refreshing
> afternoon palliative at a pub or taproom could be
> considered a social faux pas. An inquiry as such
> certainly will not endear one with, pardon my use
> of a common colloquialism, "da bitches".
> Considering these factors, I did not catechize the
> barkeep into providing a price list.
>
> The maiden's service was prompt and cheerful. I
> subsequently quaffed the brew with great delight.
> The temperature was ideal. It poured a medium
> golden yellow with a half finger head that melted
> to slight lacing. The aroma was a medium sweet
> malt and heavy citrus hops. Ah, but I digress
> with my encomium. At my predetermined departure
> time the barkeep presented the invoice for goods
> and services. I was quickly overcome by shock and
> awe that I had incurred a debt of seven dollars
> and ninety-nine cents for a single beer. I
> struggled to maintain my cool composure while I
> wondered how this could be possible. I discretely
> inquired into the accuracy of the accounting on my
> tab. The young lady confirmed that the amount I
> was in arrears was correctly enumerated.
> Surmising that the quickest method to remove this
> unexpected albatross from around my neck was to
> insert a crowbar into my billfold, I presented my
> attendant with ten smackeroos.
>
> To be pithy, I feel the enjoyment to pricing ratio
> f{:-) / $} exceeded accepted norms. I seek no
> redress since as the buyer, I must beware, but
> these circumstances have made me reconsider your
> establishment as a venue for after work
> indulgences.
>
> I hope this information proves helpful in
> maintaining or expanding your market share in your
> industry.
>
> Sincerely,
> A concerned patron
Well Hawt damn, we must got ourselves a damn foreigner speaking all that 1800's mambo jambo 'bout quaffin, and colloquialism. Hell this aint no down under shit. I bet this fool drinks his beer, with his pinky sticking out and his snooty nose all erect. I bet ya, this guys/womans asshole is tighter than frogs pussy!
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
close but wrong
()
Date: October 14, 2011 04:51PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> In Virginia we have laws dictating the percentage
> of sales you can have of alcohol versus food in a
> restaurant. This is to prevent places that have a
> bar from becoming JUST a bar. So it is possible
> restaurants in this state do NOT make most of
> their money from alcohol.
>
> Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant
> and exceed the limit.
No thats not true at all. You can make most of your money off of booze. They have a sales percentage law that is rarely enforced anyway. Just cus you have 10k worth of food sales doesnt mean a penny of it was profit. You could in fact be losing money there hoping that people drink. At the same time you could have 9k in booze sales thats 80% profit or more
-------------------------------------------------------
> In Virginia we have laws dictating the percentage
> of sales you can have of alcohol versus food in a
> restaurant. This is to prevent places that have a
> bar from becoming JUST a bar. So it is possible
> restaurants in this state do NOT make most of
> their money from alcohol.
>
> Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant
> and exceed the limit.
No thats not true at all. You can make most of your money off of booze. They have a sales percentage law that is rarely enforced anyway. Just cus you have 10k worth of food sales doesnt mean a penny of it was profit. You could in fact be losing money there hoping that people drink. At the same time you could have 9k in booze sales thats 80% profit or more
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
johhny rico
()
Date: October 14, 2011 06:53PM
The ratio is just for spirits not beer and wine. 45 percent food sales and 55 percent mixed beverage sales
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
DCPete
()
Date: October 14, 2011 08:33PM
OP - Your writing style is quite off-putting (i.e. - obnoxious) and hard to read; I wouldn't be surprised if most people stopped reading after the first two sentences. Put more effort into substance, and less into thinking up fancy words. You may find people are more responsive to your concerns.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
wnrsm
()
Date: October 14, 2011 09:21PM
With all of dem there 25-cent words you used there, you coulda bought two beers.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
It didnt
()
Date: October 14, 2011 09:58PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> >VA ABC are fuckin worthless Nazis. They will go
> undercover into a resturant...
>
> Mofo, where did this happen at? I know some
> food-service managers in the area, and never heard
> this level of complaint about ABC. I've also
> never heard of that ridiculous RICO situation you
> mention. Where did these incidents happen?
>
> I'm not sayin' it didn't really happen, but
> applying RICO statutes- c'mon!!
No ones been charged with that unless they were involved in a big smuggling operation. They dont go undercover for that either all they have to do is show up and they can inspect the bottles. They only go undercover for underage drinking and things like that
-------------------------------------------------------
> >VA ABC are fuckin worthless Nazis. They will go
> undercover into a resturant...
>
> Mofo, where did this happen at? I know some
> food-service managers in the area, and never heard
> this level of complaint about ABC. I've also
> never heard of that ridiculous RICO situation you
> mention. Where did these incidents happen?
>
> I'm not sayin' it didn't really happen, but
> applying RICO statutes- c'mon!!
No ones been charged with that unless they were involved in a big smuggling operation. They dont go undercover for that either all they have to do is show up and they can inspect the bottles. They only go undercover for underage drinking and things like that
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
MrMisery.
()
Date: October 15, 2011 07:43AM
is parched and broke some kind of recently passed the bar lawyer
go to Jimmy's Old Town Tavern
"Go to Buffalo Wing University in Fairfax. They have some 20 beers on tap and you won't pay more than $4.50 for a 23oz beer"
the imports on tap taste yucky 28 and bitter
i guess some numbnuts will drink that swill at $4.50 but better tasting beer elsewhere
go to Jimmy's Old Town Tavern
"Go to Buffalo Wing University in Fairfax. They have some 20 beers on tap and you won't pay more than $4.50 for a 23oz beer"
the imports on tap taste yucky 28 and bitter
i guess some numbnuts will drink that swill at $4.50 but better tasting beer elsewhere
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
123456
()
Date: October 16, 2011 07:21PM
I stopped reading this when your "long day at work" resulted in a beer at a bar at 4pm. If you are in a bar at 4pm - guess what - that is not a "long day at work." I do not care about your alleged "problems" if you are in a situation where you can have a beer at 4pm. Good day, sir.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Token Eskimo
()
Date: October 17, 2011 11:22AM
Ironic how he thought it would be a faux pas to ask the price of his drink before ordering, but didn't think it would be a faux pas to dispute the bill afterwards.
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
Gonads & Strife
()
Date: October 17, 2011 11:26AM
¿Cerveza? ¿En un bar en Herndon? ¡Debe estar libre junto a mi atención médica y cupones de alimentos!
Re: How much should one beer at a Herndon restaurant cost?
Posted by:
poopstick
()
Date: October 17, 2011 11:33AM
RESton Peace Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> In Virginia we have laws dictating the percentage
> of sales you can have of alcohol versus food in a
> restaurant. This is to prevent places that have a
> bar from becoming JUST a bar. So it is possible
> restaurants in this state do NOT make most of
> their money from alcohol.
>
> Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant
> and exceed the limit.
I imagine restaurants very rarely exceed the limit. Mainly because most of the places that are primarily bars (and restaurants second) will charge many non-food items as food. I think alot of bars will charge cigarettes as food items.
Anyways, it wouldn't be that hard to change some numbers around to comply with the law.
-------------------------------------------------------
> In Virginia we have laws dictating the percentage
> of sales you can have of alcohol versus food in a
> restaurant. This is to prevent places that have a
> bar from becoming JUST a bar. So it is possible
> restaurants in this state do NOT make most of
> their money from alcohol.
>
> Not sure what the ABC does if you own a restaurant
> and exceed the limit.
I imagine restaurants very rarely exceed the limit. Mainly because most of the places that are primarily bars (and restaurants second) will charge many non-food items as food. I think alot of bars will charge cigarettes as food items.
Anyways, it wouldn't be that hard to change some numbers around to comply with the law.