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FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Lexie ()
Date: October 07, 2014 11:14AM

As reported in the Washington Post, # of acres available at the Springfield site have been reduced by 1/3 making it the smallest of the three finalists, asbestos and other hazmat issues needing clean-up before anything can be constructed on the site, the GSA warehouses may be considered historic resulting in issues if they are torn down, and there is a secure CIA facility would have to be relocated. All these factors mean the FBI headquarters will not be in Springfield, but will instead be located in either Greenbelt or Landover in PG County!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2014/10/06/boston-properties-land-in-springfield-out-of-consideration-for-fbi-hq/

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Quality Watcher ()
Date: October 07, 2014 07:31PM

How the fuck are warehouses even considered historic?

Unless they're storing the Lost Ark of the Covenant there, they ain't historic.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Windover Ave ()
Date: October 07, 2014 07:50PM

So basically the choices were two shithole locations in PeeGee county and one in Sprinfield. Man, they couldn't find anywhere else? Like Vienna?

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: NS 13 ()
Date: October 07, 2014 07:56PM

The roof constuction is is some type of world record for that kind of roof.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: fracturedfairfax ()
Date: October 07, 2014 07:58PM

NS 13 Wrote:
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> The roof constuction is is some type of world
> record for that kind of roof.

It's the largest warehouse in the world that uses wood trusses to support the roof. Most warehouses that big use steel trusses.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:08PM

Windover Ave Wrote:
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> So basically the choices were two shithole
> locations in PeeGee county and one in Sprinfield.
> Man, they couldn't find anywhere else? Like
> Vienna?

There is no location big enough in Vienna.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Mj7EE ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:12PM

Ben Dover Wrote:
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> Windover Ave Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So basically the choices were two shithole
> > locations in PeeGee county and one in
> Sprinfield.
> > Man, they couldn't find anywhere else? Like
> > Vienna?
>
> There is no location big enough in Vienna.


There will be lots of room when the new Springfield mall goes bankrupt in a few months.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: the end is close ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:13PM

If they really wanted to build there, than they could always build up rather than out. A fifteen story tall tower, that occupies a smaller amount of space would probably get the job done

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: fracturedfairfax ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:33PM

Windover Ave Wrote:
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> So basically the choices were two shithole
> locations in PeeGee county and one in Sprinfield.
> Man, they couldn't find anywhere else? Like
> Vienna?

The site requirements for the new FBI complex are actually surprisingly difficult to fulfill in the DC Metro area generally. It's tough to find a site that's 1) big enough to build 2.1 million square feet of office space, which requires about 50 acres, 2) within 2.5 miles of the Capital Beltway and 3) within 2 miles of a Metro station.

Any site that meets these requirements likely already has something built on it, so that further narrows the choices to those sites that can be redeveloped into the FBI campus.

One question that arises is how much of the search is just for public show. I've been researching the move of the CIA to Langley back in the mid-1950s and there was a whole months-long selection process which was basically just a sham, because Allen Dulles had already settled on the Langley site before the search even began.

This sort of pretense is a fairly common thing, and it makes me wonder if the FBI already knows where they want to move, and just engaging in public theater before they announce that they're taking over the old ExxonMobil campus in Merrifield or something similar.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:35PM

Maybe it will be FEMA camp for ebola victims.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: JuDdm ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:43PM

fracturedfairfax Wrote:
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>
> One question that arises is how much of the search
> is just for public show. I've been researching the
> move of the CIA to Langley back in the mid-1950s
> and there was a whole months-long selection
> process which was basically just a sham, because
> Allen Dulles had already settled on the Langley
> site before the search even began.
>
> This sort of pretense is a fairly common thing,
> and it makes me wonder if the FBI already knows
> where they want to move, and just engaging in
> public theater before they announce that they're
> taking over the old ExxonMobil campus in
> Merrifield or something similar.


Very doubtful. There are too many legal and other requirements involved in making a decision like that these days. It may have been possible in Dulles's day and it may well already be a foregone conclusion for practical purposes with this simply being an exercise in justifying it. But it's a different time now. No way that they could announce some completely different site like that. There would be a shit storm and they'd be tied up in dealing with all of that for years if they did.

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Buying votes ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:46PM

I seems politics would be involved, sadly
Either payback or pay forward so local politicians can stay in office

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Re: FBI Headquarters won't be moving to Springfield
Posted by: Homie D Clown ()
Date: October 07, 2014 09:34PM

Wouldn't the Exxon/Mobil site be large enough and provide better access to DC And Quantico than the MD sites? If the OP is correct that the Springfield location is being passed on.

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